[blue]Greetings Everyone,
I have created a new forum for Cebu.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?773-The-Philippines-Cebu[/url]
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
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[blue]Greetings Everyone,
I have created a new forum for Cebu.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?773-The-Philippines-Cebu[/url]
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
Jackson, This is a great development. Cebu is such a wonderful mongering city.
AJ
If you are coming here for less than a month head to the mango bars on your first night and do a bar hop they start 9 pm and you should start 9 pm, as the good bars fill up quick. Talk to the mamasan and tell her what type of girl you like (yes she will ask for a ladies drink). Some times they are still out the back or absent that night. Keep doing this until you find what you want. I take the first girl I find and take her to a few more bars. Buy the girl 1 or 2 ladies drink and ask her what she will do for you, I rather her tell me what she will do she is a pro , if she is too shy you should find another girl. they do not get better once you leave the bar . You really need to do a bar hop in Cebu. I also ask the girl what bar she wants to go to as there are always new bars or old ones changing. They seem to get the New and hot girls as news get out fast they are hiring. Barfines start at 1700 and then 4000 to arena at 8000
The malls can be a mine field as some girls are ex bar who fail higyne or are desperate for cash and are banned from bars due to other problems. There are also new girls there to make some money. You will see them in pairs often you need to watch to make sure they are working. If a lady boy approaches you say you only want girls, they may help you to find a girl they know working the malls, do not give them any money unless they help you this is only valid for lady boys as they will rob you blind. This advice also applies for the discos in mango square. Disco are a bit like the malls but after the bars close you can meet working girls who did not get ewr. But I would tell you to go there with a girl as they are hit and miss. For me the girl sence in Cebu requires time and effort. So never come here less than 2 days. Stay in Cebu and forget about pussy at the beaches. Unless you find a girl in the city to go with you stay in town. Mall and disco girls start from 500 the most I paid is 1000.
Down town is a better experience if you know some one living here to show you around even some the locals avoid downtown. But if you know some one it is worth a look.
When meeting a girl from a online dating site do not expect her on time or offer to pay her taxi, you will spend time just waiting and some times they will never turn up, or turn up when you are leaving to meet your next.
Do not lie to the girls here tell them what you are after, some will even introduce you to a friend that matches your need. Also know that people here live peso to peso so always offer taxi money 50-200 peso once they turn up, if they ask tell them to borrow the jeepney fare, when you meet them ask them what jeepney they took. There is a saying here "only rich foreigners and prostitutes take the taxi"
This is based on my 5 years of living here, I get new girls every month.
After spending the evening with Frenzy last night (he is very knowledgeable about the local society and I highly recommend getting touch with him for his interesting perspective) I went to the Mango bars at around 11pm. There was no need to get there early (except that maybe some of the hotter women may have been taken). Most of the bars were pretty empty and I stuck my head into every one of them. I got a chuckle in one where there was one customer (with 2 women) who beckoned me to stay as he saw me walking out. I understand the feeling when you are the only customer in the place.
[QUOTE=Frenzy3; 1250950]. EDIT. Also know that people here live peso to peso so always offer taxi money 50-200 peso once they turn up, if they ask tell them to borrow the jeepney fare, when you meet them ask them what jeepney they took. There is a saying here "only rich foreigners and prostitutes take the taxi"
This is based on my 5 years of living here, I get new girls every month.[/QUOTE]Very sensible post Frenzy, and advice that should be followed.
I have been visiting Cebu on sporadic intervals for 15 years now (I live in Manila) , and I have never lucked out in Cebu. I have used DIA, mall meetings, bars on Mango and nearby to Mango (eg old Silver Dollar and Lone Star) and if one fails the other comes through.
I have posted on several mall meetings here (over the past 2 years) and I agree with Frenzy that there are potential pitfalls but the last 2 encounters that I have had have turned out to be exceptional (both were bored horny housewives looking for a few hours of fun while hubby was at work or, in one case, overseas working).
I must admit I have never tried the discos at the top of Mango (for example, Julianas (name now changed) but I have been to Pump near Ayala and my wing man found a prize but I saw nothing that appealed so I moved on to a bar for the final stanza. I will be returning soon so I will post some updates on my favorite places.
RK, where I come from in the Midwest of US of A,"luck out" means to be lucky. We even verb the noun as in "I lucked out". Oh, us funny Americans. It sounds like you are using it the opposite way. I've never heard "luck in", but I will try it if I ever make it back to the land of extraordinarily boring and unsual politics. X.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1251049]SNIP I have been visiting Cebu on sporadic intervals for 15 years now (I live in Manila) , and I have never lucked out in Cebu. I have used DIA, mall meetings, bars on Mango and nearby to Mango (eg old Silver Dollar and Lone Star) and if one fails the other comes through.
SNIP.[/QUOTE]
A girl I picked up before in the Mango area approached me as I was walking back to my room after dinner. My previous experience with her was great and I was certainly willing to have a session with her again, but tonight I was just too damn tired. I've had a recurring sinus infection and tonight it was draining all my energy. After kindly explaining why I couldn't see her tonite, she then goes 'ohh, Riverman, I'm hungy please just give me 50 pesos. ' It surprised me she did this, because last time she seemed like a pretty nice chick, and not a beggar type. I guess the street is burning her out.
I'm wondering what you guys think about this situation. Personally, I hate being hit up like that, for several reasons. 1) if I don't partake, I don't want to give anything 2) I don't want a strictly P4P provider to get accustomed to successfully hitting me up for free money 3) I don't like pulling out and handing over money on the street. 4) I frequent the mango / fuente area a lot, and don't want the denizens there to consider me a mark for begging, etc. 5) I just plain find it irritating.
After my polite refusal, she got rather nasty and we parted less than friends. I am curious to the thoughts of you guys on this subject. Any better way to deal with this situation? Anyone?
[QUOTE=Riverman; 1251124]A girl I picked up before in the Mango area approached me as I was walking back to my room after dinner. My previous experience with her was great and I was certainly willing to have a session with her again, but tonight I was just too damn tired. I've had a recurring sinus infection and tonight it was draining all my energy. After kindly explaining why I couldn't see her tonite, she then goes 'ohh, Riverman, I'm hungy please just give me 50 pesos. ' It surprised me she did this, because last time she seemed like a pretty nice chick, and not a beggar type. I guess the street is burning her out.
I'm wondering what you guys think about this situation. Personally, I hate being hit up like that, for several reasons. 1) if I don't partake, I don't want to give anything 2) I don't want a strictly P4P provider to get accustomed to successfully hitting me up for free money 3) I don't like pulling out and handing over money on the street. 4) I frequent the mango / fuente area a lot, and don't want the denizens there to consider me a mark for begging, etc. 5) I just plain find it irritating.
After my polite refusal, she got rather nasty and we parted less than friends. I am curious to the thoughts of you guys on this subject. Any better way to deal with this situation? Anyone?[/QUOTE]Your reaction and reasons are understandable. But at the same time. 50 pesos is not going to break you and it could make you feel as though you had done something nice for a girl with whom you had been close. Understandable that you don't want to be seen giving money on the street. You could take her into an eating establishment and pay them for her meal. Then, if you are not hungry or don't have time, just leave and tell her not to make a habit of it.
Maybe I'm a sucker, but I have a lot of sympathy for these people. They are, after all, poor and we are much more fortunate than they are. I know we can't be used as cash machines. But (especially if you know someone) , how much can it hurt you to help them to a meal? To me, you have to have a conscience and not just treat the place as your personal playground of prostitutes.
LexLuther
Both sides here have some good points. Recently I gave a few hundred pesos to a girl I knew only vaugely."to buy chicken".
A few days later she came over and was quite generous in her own dirty little way. Bless her heart.
On the other hand you don't want to be pulling out your wallet on that stretch of Mango. And that's probably what you would have to do. I don't know about the rest of you, but my change is left with the waitresses. I'm not going to have 50peso in coin in my pocket. THe gal was probably counting on the fact that you would have only 100 peso bills. Furthermore, the fact that she got nasty is a good indication that she's bad news.
Speaking of street girls, I picked up a real cutie on Mango back in January. Back in the room she tells me to lay the money on the table. At first I was confused, but she says that's the street girl custom. Hmmm, first there is an indication that she doesn't trust me, second she's giving me orders and if I obey she'll think she's in charge, and third, if I put money down she knows where my wallet is. I threw here out. X.
[QUOTE=LexLuther; 1251206]Your reaction and reasons are understandable. But at the same time. 50 pesos is not going to break you
SNIP.
LexLuther[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=X Man;1251054]RK, where I come from in the Midwest of US of A,"luck out" means to be lucky. We even verb the noun as in "I lucked out". Oh, us funny Americans. It sounds like you are using it the opposite way. I've never heard "luck in", but I will try it if I ever make it back to the land of extraordinarily boring and unsual politics. X.[/QUOTE]That's funny X. I have never heard it used in the way you use it. Logically, our way makes more sense, as in 'lucked out" means out luck was out.
Another interesting phrase us Aussies use is "I couldn't care less" when we are talking about "not giving a shit". It seems to me that many guys (I bet they are our Yank brothers again) who say "I could care less". They are supposed to mean the same but they are different.
[QUOTE=Riverman;1251124]A girl I picked up before in the Mango area approached me as I was walking back to my room after dinner. My previous experience with her was great and I was certainly willing to have a session with her again, but tonight I was just too damn tired. she then goes 'ohh, Riverman, I'm hungy please just give me 50 pesos. ' It surprised me she did this, because last time she seemed like a pretty nice chick, and not a beggar type. I guess the street is burning her out.[/QUOTE]I am really surprised by your reaction, especially as she is someone you know and with whom you had a great experience already.
"Good girl gone bad"? WTF? All she did was ask you for 50 pesos for food? Does that make her "bad"? You had a gross over reaction River. You made an enemy out of a "good" Mango street girl because she asked you for 50 pesos. If she was an unknown beggar then maybe I could understand you dismissing her but you said you already know her and like her.
I don't think I would enjoy having a beer with you if you get so wound up over such a trivial thing. The sky would not fall on you if you had given her 50 php, but it just might fall on you now late one night because you didn't, and when you are least expecting it.
Oops. What happened to Cebu Forum categories that we had yesterday like Cebu Hotels, Cebu restaurants, General info etc. I was pretty doped yesterday and set out a time today to read all info due to my arrival in Cebu and bummer, Now I only see Cebu Forum thread no sub categories or is it just me and my browser acting up? Thanks
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Never mind...FYI..The Cebu Forum link from The Philippines thread won't bring you to the main page of Cebu Forum...For that you have to go to
The Main Page >> Asia >> The Philippines - Cebu
I think there is a link issue there....I had bookmarked the Philippines page and opened it ...so couldn't see the sub categories of Cebu Forum..thanks
Jackson,
Thanks for creating a new sub-forum for Cebu, much appreciated!
Can I make a few small suggestions. Can you transfer the recent posts on this newly created 'Cebu Forum' link and paste them in the 'Cebu General Information' thread and lock this thread? After this thread progresses a few pages your original post which contains the link to the Cebu section will become buried.
The original thread has 6200+ posts and this new thread assumes the same function as the older one thus creating two threads about the same topic. Some guys are already confused and this would just streamline and keep all the general topic posts together on one thread.
Can you transfer posts (#345 through #355) on the 'Cebu Hotels' thread and paste them in the newly created 'Buying-Owning-Renting Property in Cebu' section as the topic deals with condo ownership.
I know you are busy sorry for the disturbance. I tried to PM you my thoughts but your inbox is full.
Thanks once again.
Speaking of "gross over reaction", see'mon RK. You're almost threatening the guy!
He was feeling ill, the gal was a street girl making an unexpected and unusual request (in a dodgy area) , and she got rude when she didn't get the money. We weren't there and we don't know the whole story. In the end, it's his 50 pesos, his time, his security, his holiday.
My advice to anyone is to follow your gut feelings. If you are in the third world and you start to get bad vibes, try to move on or away from whatever caused those vibes. If you feel guilty the next day about the 50 pesos, contact RK. I'm sure he can provide a list of charities.
X
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1251326]I am really surprised by your reaction, especially as she is someone you know and with whom you had a great experience already.
"Good girl gone bad"? WTF? All she did was ask you for 50 pesos for food? Does that make her "bad"? You had a gross over reaction River. You made an enemy out of a "good" Mango street girl because she asked you for 50 pesos. If she was an unknown beggar then maybe I could understand you dismissing her but you said you already know her and like her.
I don't think I would enjoy having a beer with you if you get so wound up over such a trivial thing. The sky would not fall on you if you had given her 50 php, but it just might fall on you now late one night because you didn't, and when you are least expecting it.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1251326]I am really surprised by your reaction, especially as she is someone you know and with whom you had a great experience already.
"Good girl gone bad"? WTF? All she did was ask you for 50 pesos for food? Does that make her "bad"? You had a gross over reaction River. You made an enemy out of a "good" Mango street girl because she asked you for 50 pesos. If she was an unknown beggar then maybe I could understand you dismissing her but you said you already know her and like her.
I don't think I would enjoy having a beer with you if you get so wound up over such a trivial thing. The sky would not fall on you if you had given her 50 php, but it just might fall on you now late one night because you didn't, and when you are least expecting it.[/QUOTE]Red Kilt,
Some mongers have a strict don't feed the street meat policy. Perhaps they think hungry girls are more eager to fuck for pesos and will maintain that much sought after spinner figure. Others consider giving the girls pesos for anything other than a fuck to be the equivalent of feeding strays and worry about being mobbed by other aggressive beggars or making the girls lazy. The sad reality is the girls sell puss out of desperation and a lot of mongers intend to keep them as desperate as possible to exert maximum leverage.
[QUOTE=Chocha Monger; 1251574]Red Kilt,
Some mongers have a strict don't feed the street meat policy. Perhaps they think hungry girls are more eager to fuck for pesos and will maintain that much sought after spinner figure. Others consider giving the girls pesos for anything other than a fuck to be the equivalent of feeding strays and worry about being mobbed by other aggressive beggars or making the girls lazy. The sad reality is the girls sell puss out of desperation and a lot of mongers intend to keep them as desperate as possible to exert maximum leverage.[/QUOTE]Bit of over-reaction to my post about over reaction.
Just to be clear. I NEVER hand out money to beggars of any sort on the street either, but in Riverman's case, this was not just an unknown beggar but a woman he had already befriended before and with whom, in his words,"had a GREAT time".
I was surprised that he would not give her the 50 pesos. That's all. Surprised. The reasons he gave for not giving the 50 pesos were, IMHO, an extreme over reaction, as I simply cannot see or imagine the likelihood that a mere 50 pesos given to an acquaintance would upset the economic indicators of the street monger trade
He also made an enemy out of her. That would worry me the next time I wander along the same strip.
I would of not handed her money on the street, but a girl that I had a "great time" with, would not be going hungry. I would have taken her to the nearest place and feed her. A 50-100 peso meal could easily turn into a freebie with an even greater time.
[QUOTE=Riverman; 1251124]A girl I picked up before in the Mango area approached me as I was walking back to my room after dinner. My previous experience with her was great and I was certainly willing to have a session with her again, but tonight I was just too damn tired. I've had a recurring sinus infection and tonight it was draining all my energy. After kindly explaining why I couldn't see her tonite, she then goes 'ohh, Riverman, I'm hungy please just give me 50 pesos. ' It surprised me she did this, because last time she seemed like a pretty nice chick, and not a beggar type. I guess the street is burning her out.
I'm wondering what you guys think about this situation. Personally, I hate being hit up like that, for several reasons. 1) if I don't partake, I don't want to give anything 2) I don't want a strictly P4P provider to get accustomed to successfully hitting me up for free money 3) I don't like pulling out and handing over money on the street. 4) I frequent the mango / fuente area a lot, and don't want the denizens there to consider me a mark for begging, etc. 5) I just plain find it irritating.
After my polite refusal, she got rather nasty and we parted less than friends. I am curious to the thoughts of you guys on this subject. Any better way to deal with this situation? Anyone?[/QUOTE]It only 50 peso that is a jeepney ride to meet another client, load to text another client or a meal, so saying no you have got what you deserve, bad Karma. She will tell every girl she knows how cheep you are so next time you get a girl you like and she says no think about your action that day. Drugs cost 200 peso or more, glue is less but there are few working girls doing glue, most people live from peso to peso and will borrow money so they can make money.
Next time you are in cebu catch up I show you how the locals live and how the girls who work mango live.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1251593]Bit of over-reaction to my post about over reaction.
Just to be clear. I NEVER hand out money to beggars of any sort on the street either, but in Riverman's case, this was not just an unknown beggar but a woman he had already befriended before and with whom, in his words,"had a GREAT time".
I was surprised that he would not give her the 50 pesos. That's all. Surprised. The reasons he gave for not giving the 50 pesos were, IMHO, an extreme over reaction, as I simply cannot see or imagine the likelihood that a mere 50 pesos given to an acquaintance would upset the economic indicators of the street monger trade.
He also made an enemy out of her. That would worry me the next time I wander along the same strip.[/QUOTE]I believe CM is just pointing out what most here don't want to read. The fact is the Value Monger is a tough breed who has never contributed to the United Way or Red Cross. Therefore, why would anyone expect the cheap bastard to give a poor girl 50 pesos when he saw her in public the next day. Actually she should consider herself lucky if she got out of his room the night before without taking one in the butt or receiving a face full on hot [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] to the mug.
[QUOTE=Screaming Beaver;1251650]Actually she should consider herself lucky if she got out of his room the night before without taking one in the butt or receiving a face full on hot [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] to the mug.[/QUOTE]Ya. Giving a gal one in the butt or a hot [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] to the mug is my job. Thanks.
I guess it has to be repeated a third time. The guy said he was not feeling well. Apparently he told the girl that. Which was the only real mistake I can see in this story. Show a bit of weakness and the dingos will take a nip.
And when I say dingo. I would like some of you to think about who exactly I'm talking about.
[QUOTE=Makeupaname;1251602]I would of not handed her money on the street, but a girl that I had a "great time" with, would not be going hungry. I would have taken her to the nearest place and feed her. A 50-100 peso meal could easily turn into a freebie with an even greater time.[/QUOTE]
Please tell us what charities you donate to, and what would be something good to bring or leave. I regularly leave clothing as a kind of extra tip to the maids since I do some shopping and don't want to be over my weight limit on the next flight. I'd prefer to find a reliable group so that I can be sure my donation is being used efficiently.
I have met H the H in AC since he has some charity connections. Good guy. At the moment there is the BEACON group organizing a run in March in AC. They look like a reliable group, but not exactly sure.
But frankly, I don't know of a reliable group in Cebu. Surely, The Frenzy, is a man who can show us where to point our generosity. X.
[QUOTE=Frenzy3; 1251639]It only 50 peso that is a jeepney ride to meet another client, load to text another client or a meal, so saying no you have got what you deserve, bad Karma. She will tell every girl she knows how cheep you are so next time you get a girl you like and she says no think about your action that day. Drugs cost 200 peso or more, glue is less but there are few working girls doing glue, most people live from peso to peso and will borrow money so they can make money.
Next time you are in cebu catch up I show you how the locals live and how the girls who work mango live.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Screaming Beaver;1251650]I believe CM is just pointing out what most here don't want to read. The fact is the Value Monger is a tough breed who has never contributed to the United Way or Red Cross. Therefore, why would anyone expect the cheap bastard to give a poor girl 50 pesos when he saw her in public the next day. Actually she should consider herself lucky if she got out of his room the night before without taking one in the butt or receiving a face full on hot [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] to the mug.[/QUOTE]Screaming Beaver, the Value Monger is indeed a very robust breed. When this breed hears a girl say, 'please, I'm very hungry' it triggers aggressive bargaining for deeply discounted hardcore services at best. In cases where the monger is unable to perform at the time of the request, due to a street Viagra and alcohol induced hangover, such pleading is met with a righteous sense of indignation that a girl would have the nerve to beg for a single peso that she didn't earn by getting all her holes filled. These gentlemen are frugal with sympathy and exceedingly charitable with their bodily fluids.
[QUOTE=Chocha Monger;1251726]Screaming Beaver, the Value Monger is indeed a very robust breed. When this breed hears a girl say, 'please, I'm very hungry' it triggers aggressive bargaining for deeply discounted hardcore services at best. In cases where the monger is unable to perform at the time of the request, due to a street Viagra and alcohol induced hangover, such pleading is met with a righteous sense of indignation that a girl would have the nerve to beg for a single peso that she didn't earn by getting all her holes filled. These gentlemen are frugal with sympathy and exceedingly charitable with their bodily fluids.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure if you're mocking the Value Monger, or agreeing with him, but the RM's situation is not uncommon, and difficult to deal with. I'm not sure there is ANY good outcome from the situation. Asking for money is in bad taste from the western viewpoint, but not from the SE asian viewpoint. Anytime this happens, it will feel natural for the pinay, and create an uncomfortable dissonance from most men. Obviously there are differing viewpoints on the situation. Some gents have posted here that they feel for RM's discomfort (that also includes me) , while others have said he should just have given it to her (as its small). You can see several viewpoints:
A. You don't want to give her anything. Her asking for it makes you feel uncomfortable, period.
B. You want to give her the money, but you know better than to be seen doing it right then on the street.
C. You just hand it to her.
I don't think there is any one good solution or way of handling the above situation that would not draw fire from the dingos? Personally, whether sick or not, I would not have given her the money right then. You either have to take her to a private place and hand her the pesos, or take her somewhere to eat, or tell her to come to your hotel the next day for 200 (or so) and then make good on it. But handing anyone money in public in cebu (even your wife) makes you a target for every beggar on the street, and emboldens that girl to ask (inappropriately) again. This is not a matter of being cheap (value mongering) , its a matter of being smart.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1251326]I am really surprised by your reaction, especially as she is someone you know and with whom you had a great experience already.
"Good girl gone bad"? WTF? All she did was ask you for 50 pesos for food? Does that make her "bad"? You had a gross over reaction River. You made an enemy out of a "good" Mango street girl because she asked you for 50 pesos. If she was an unknown beggar then maybe I could understand you dismissing her but you said you already know her and like her.
I don't think I would enjoy having a beer with you if you get so wound up over such a trivial thing. The sky would not fall on you if you had given her 50 php, but it just might fall on you now late one night because you didn't, and when you are least expecting it.[/QUOTE]Totally agree with you RK. This guy has made an enemy out of someone he had a great time with (and consequently everybody she knows) over a measly 50 pesos. What a cheap, pathetic bastard. And you're right...he's a marked man now and it wouldn't surprise me to hear it if he gets whacked the next time he lets his guard down in that neighborhood.
Well since this thing is heading the way of "what is paying too much" I will add my 2 pesos. Was Riverman in Cebu to make friends? Did he go there to save the world? Is said girl a friend because he hired her services once and enjoyed them? (What if the session had been terrible?) She turned from friend to enemy because he would not give away money to her outside of a business relationship? If that is the case then I have made countless enemies on this planet; and by that same token made many friends that I was not aware of. Do you really think someone would attack or kill him because he didn't give away 50 pesos - not like he owed them anything? (Should have just robbed him that day instead.) If that was the case then I'm sure there would be kano bodies on every corner. She had just met Riverman and all of a sudden he is supposed to be her saving grace? What about the family, friends that she has known all of her life? What if she never ran into Riverman that day or the day he sessioned with her? If she hadn't starved to death in all of the 20 or how many years that she has been living then I'm sure she wouldn't die because of the 50 pesos that Riverman didn't give her. You say it was "only" 50 pesos, well what would be too much to give away? Why not just hand over 500 pesos, or 5000 for good measure? Even if he was in tip-top health he should have told her no with authority.
Put the shoe on the other foot. Say Riverman was really horny and didn't have any money. But he didn't want full service, he just needed a little blow job to get him by. Do you think she would have or should have obliged? After all he has sessioned with her once before and they are supposedly "friends." Last I heard it was "No Money, No Honey". There is no reason that should not be able to be inverted as well. You guys are so pathetic that it is funny. Grow some balls and stop being cream puffs and pushovers.
[QUOTE=Gaijin Gigolo;1251744]Totally agree with you RK. This guy has made an enemy out of someone he had a great time with (and consequently everybody she knows) over a measly 50 pesos. What a cheap, pathetic bastard. And you're right.he's a marked man now and it wouldn't surprise me to hear it if he gets whacked the next time he lets his guard down in that neighborhood.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1251766]Well since this thing is heading the way of "what is paying too much" I will add my 2 pesos. Was Riverman in Cebu to make friends? Did he go there to save the world? Is said girl a friend because he hired her services once and enjoyed them? (What if the session had been terrible?) She turned from friend to enemy because he would not give away money to her outside of a business relationship? If that is the case then I have made countless enemies on this planet; and by that same token made many friends that I was not aware of. Do you really think someone would attack or kill him because he didn't give away 50 pesos. Not like he owed them anything? (Should have just robbed him that day instead.) If that was the case then I'm sure there would be kano bodies on every corner. She had just met Riverman and all of a sudden he is supposed to be her saving grace? What about the family, friends that she has known all of her life? What if she never ran into Riverman that day or the day he sessioned with her? If she hadn't starved to death in all of the 20 or how many years that she has been living then I'm sure she wouldn't die because of the 50 pesos that Riverman didn't give her. You say it was "only" 50 pesos, well what would be too much to give away? Why not just hand over 500 pesos, or 5000 for good measure? Even if he was in tip-top health he should have told her no with authority.
Put the shoe on the other foot. Say Riverman was really horny and didn't have any money. But he didn't want full service, he just needed a little blow job to get him by. Do you think she would have or should have obliged? After all he has sessioned with her once before and they are supposedly "friends." Last I heard it was "No Money, No Honey". There is no reason that should not be able to be inverted as well. You guys are so pathetic that it is funny. Grow some balls and stop being cream puffs and pushovers.[/QUOTE]Equating hunger for food and a need for a blow job shows your bias. You are a tight wad monger along w / many others. That's the way it is and will never change. I would not give out money on the street to a stranger, but a hooker I had a good intimate session w / I would have. It just has to be done discreetly. I think the OP of this issue made a mistake but he is here now asking what he might have done differently which I admire. We mongers are all different, some want to help others and some don't, that will never change. I respect everyone but the tad wads do benefit from the generosity of the more giving monger. Now if the Tight Wads had a stamp on their forehead (T. W.) they would be avoided by most people but w / out the stamp they blend in w / everyone. HaHa.
I'm w / this guy's opinion.
Maybe I'm a sucker, but I have a lot of sympathy for these people. They are, after all, poor and we are much more fortunate than they are. I know we can't be used as cash machines. But (especially if you know someone) , how much can it hurt you to help them to a meal? To me, you have to have a conscience and not just treat the place as your personal playground of prostitutes.
[QUOTE=Makeupaname;1251602]I would of not handed her money on the street, but a girl that I had a "great time" with, would not be going hungry. I would have taken her to the nearest place and feed her. A 50-100 peso meal could easily turn into a freebie with an even greater time.[/QUOTE]Or it could turn into an additional request for more money. You can do what you want with your money, the same way the other poster did or didn't do with his money. Trying to get everyone on sex board or anywhere else to have monolithic values will never happen.
With regard to the girl who has provided good service and asked for 50 pesos later on the street.
1) The request does not necessarily maker her bad, a scammer, or a beggar. This is the way of the Philippines.
2) The key for me is someone who has come through and delivered.
Years ago I picked up a girl on Mango, paid the mamasan in advance, and she tried to get away without performing. At that moment I wouldn't give her anything, not even a Skyflake. I saw her years later standing across from Gaisano Metro, where all of the dreg hookers hang out. No doubt she'd forgotten me. She was a gorgeous girl who could be making real money, but even years later, she could bleed to death on the street in front of me and I will step over her.
On the other hand, for a girl who has delivered, what's the harm in giving her 50 pesos? You'd buy a friend a beer. It's a buck to you.you can afford it. Once again, I'm not talking about tossing handfuls of 50 peso notes into the streets, you are rewarding for performance, and in the expectation of future performance.
3) Giving the 50 pesos doesn't make you soft or naive. If a pattern starts to develop of her bumming for change, you make it clear that she needs to hold up her end of the bargain. If you establish yourself as someone who provides (and at a cheap price to you) you may find yourself receiving text messages offering for her to come by and service you. That's just the sort of annoying, intrusive text I like to get.
4) One poster mentioned you not having change. Always have change! ? You've got to fight for change and hoard your coins. I keep my change separate from my large bills. So if I want to hand out 50 pesos, I don't have to haul out a wad of 5, 000 pesos in downtown Colon and dig through them all, only to discovewr I don't have anything smaller than a 500.
I totally missed the fact that Cebu MidTown (above Robinson's at Fuente Osmena) is now called Summit Circle Hotel.
I used to always stay there before (from 1997 until 2008) but when it became a bit jaded and old and, more importantly, they jacked up the prices, I went elsewhere..
It looks as though it has been renovated (from a website I just saw) and the price is now around 16, 000 php for 7 nights (double) that seems very good to me (I work on the basis that anything under or up to 3000 per night is OK for me).
Any updated reviews on this place please?
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1251766]But he didn't want full service, he just needed a little blow job to get him by. Do you think she would have or should have obliged? After all he has sessioned with her once before and they are supposedly "friends." Last I heard it was "No Money, No Honey". There is no reason that should not be able to be inverted as well. You guys are so pathetic that it is funny. Grow some balls and stop being cream puffs and pushovers.[/QUOTE]Riverman omitted one important detail. And that is, if he desired to do her again.
If NO, then it's no big deal if he refused to give P50 (even though I would have given if she was a really good provider).
If YES, it's extremely stupid to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] someone away. Granted, there are girls everywhere in Cebu. But it's still hard to find excellent providers who have both the looks and personality.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1251766]Well since this thing is heading the way of "what is paying too much" I will add my 2 pesos. Was Riverman in Cebu to make friends? Did he go there to save the world? Is said girl a friend because he hired her services once and enjoyed them? (What if the session had been terrible?) She turned from friend to enemy because he would not give away money to her outside of a business relationship? If that is the case then I have made countless enemies on this planet; and by that same token made many friends that I was not aware of. Do you really think someone would attack or kill him because he didn't give away 50 pesos. Not like he owed them anything? (Should have just robbed him that day instead.) If that was the case then I'm sure there would be kano bodies on every corner. She had just met Riverman and all of a sudden he is supposed to be her saving grace? What about the family, friends that she has known all of her life? What if she never ran into Riverman that day or the day he sessioned with her? If she hadn't starved to death in all of the 20 or how many years that she has been living then I'm sure she wouldn't die because of the 50 pesos that Riverman didn't give her. You say it was "only" 50 pesos, well what would be too much to give away? Why not just hand over 500 pesos, or 5000 for good measure? Even if he was in tip-top health he should have told her no with authority.
Put the shoe on the other foot. Say Riverman was really horny and didn't have any money. But he didn't want full service, he just needed a little blow job to get him by. Do you think she would have or should have obliged? After all he has sessioned with her once before and they are supposedly "friends." Last I heard it was "No Money, No Honey". There is no reason that should not be able to be inverted as well. You guys are so pathetic that it is funny. Grow some balls and stop being cream puffs and pushovers.[/QUOTE]Another asshole, I see.
[QUOTE=Socker;1251787]Maybe I'm a sucker, but I have a lot of sympathy for these people. They are, after all, poor and we are much more fortunate than they are. I know we can't be used as cash machines. But (especially if you know someone) , how much can it hurt you to help them to a meal? To me, you have to have a conscience and not just treat the place as your personal playground of prostitutes.[/QUOTE]Totally agree, well stated. It doesn't surprise me at all that some of these assholes get whacked, even murdered, given they way they mistreat people, often over nothing.
50 peso=1. 17 USD.
I pitty the person who can't spare that amount to feed a hungry mouth, regardless who and in what circumstances.
I guess is not enough to be born in order to qualify for the title of human being, some living among us would need to take a class and pass an exam before they can be called human beings.
No wonder this world is going downhill, It looks like the quantity of humanity stays the same is just the population no. That is growing.
[QUOTE=Gaijin Gigolo;1251970]Another asshole, I see.[/QUOTE]Going to (respectfully) disagree. Each gent will do whatever he feels is correct.
Few months ago, in broad daylight, I was walking along with a realtor (he was showing me a condo) , and his lady assistant (wow!). He was dressed nicely in shirt / tie, and she had a sharp business outfit. It was hot outside, and he asked if I wanted something to drink. Yes, I told him some ice tea or juice. He told the lady to get some drinks. We had just passed some street vendors and I assumed she would head back there and get some bottled juice. She looked in her purse and then asked him for some money. Probably 3 bottled drinks from the street vendor would be p50-60, small change. He pulled some coins from his pocket and they counted. In my wallet was several thousand pesos. In my right-front pants pocket were coins and several p20 notes, and my hand was in my pocket on the money.
STOP. It would be very easy to pull out the p20's or coins and offer them up. They are nice people. P60 is nothing to me (and probably small to the well-dressed realtor). It would be a pleasure to buy us all a cold drink on a hot day (we tend to act from the heart, not the head). DON'T do that. I almost pulled the money from my pocket, but I stopped. Let them pay for it (I've been accosted on the street before when showing money, even for just buying a bottle of water).
You think that is being kuripot? I promise, its not. I can think of only one reason to hand them (or to hand Riverman's former date) : to be nice. But you and I can think of multiple reasons why its not a good idea to pull money from your pocket on the streets in Cebu. The foremost reason is that the locals will see it. If you are soon hit by beggars or pickpockets, you only have yourself to blame. Its more important that nobody see you handling cash than being nice. Handle cash in a private place. If you must do it in public, do it for business transactions, not personal transactions with locals. If a Filipino friend walks up to you in a mall with a p500 note and asks if you can make change, either 1) don't do it, or 2) step into a private place and do it. There is NOTHING that can't wait until tomorrow for this person, such as meeting me then in my hotel to make the change. Filipinos are used to waiting for hours, days, weeks, months, for most everything (look how long they keep YOU waiting!). It is more important for my former date (well, Riverman's) to go hungry and see me tomorrow or in a private place, than it is for me to hand her money on the street. I'm glad to give Riverman's girl more than the requested p50, but ONLY if it can be done in private.
Thoughts?
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1251925]I totally missed the fact that Cebu MidTown (above Robinson's at Fuente Osmena) is now called Summit Circle Hotel.
I used to always stay there before (from 1997 until 2008) but when it became a bit jaded and old and, more importantly, they jacked up the prices, I went elsewhere.
It looks as though it has been renovated (from a website I just saw) and the price is now around 16, 000 php for 7 nights (double) that seems very good to me (I work on the basis that anything under or up to 3000 per night is OK for me).
Any updated reviews on this place please?[/QUOTE]RK,
Yes Midtown Hotel has been re-named Summit Circle. I posted about it on the Cebu General Info thread back in November 2011. Link Below.
They have been painting the exterior of the building a greyish-brown kind of color but as typically happens in the Philippines they ran out of paint, time or money (or all three) and if you look up at the Summit Circle sign overlooking Fuente and Robinsons Cybergate you will see the ugly as heck half-finished paint job. Also the entrance to the central parking lot located on Jones next to the lechon resto and the fruit stand below Fuente still has the old "Midtown Hotel Parking" sign. Kind of funny but again typical.
I will PM you some of my thoughts.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1004-General-Information&p=1215137#post1215137[/url]
[QUOTE=Frenchmen; 1252004]50 peso=1. 17 USD.
I pitty the person who can't spare that amount to feed a hungry mouth, regardless who and in what circumstances.
I guess is not enough to be born in order to qualify for the title of human being, some living among us would need to take a class and pass an exam before they can be called human beings.
No wonder this world is going downhill.[/QUOTE]Yes, the girls are human beings first and foremost.
The ones who argue that we are soft if we give them money for anything other than sex are mean spirited types, and they get out of life what they deserve. I am not advocating regular freebie hand outs, but selective help for our fellow humans in genuine need, is basic, you would think. Not so, under any circumstances for the mean spirited ones. Their choice, their life. Karma does exist, but doubt those guys ever experience it. The girls are human beings, first and foremost.
After reading all the opinions I can truly say there are both sides to the coin. But, my god it is only about $1. 15 USA I don't normally hand out money to those asking for it but when it is someone you have known before and that situation has been to your approval, christ, give it to her.
Now if I was hungry and ask someone I knew for a dollar and they said no, I think I would be rather pised also. Now just is this my opinion, if you can afford to live in another country and pay for pussy, there is no reason you shouldn't be able to give 50 P. Maybe I am wrong to some of you but I have always found it better and you are able to get more good if you use honey and not vinegar.
After reading all the opinions I can truly say there are both sides to the coin. But, my god it is only about $1. 15 USA. I don't normally hand out money to those asking for it but when it is someone you have known before and that situation has been to your approval, christ, give it to her.
Now if I was hungry and ask someone I knew for a dollar and they said no, I think I would be rather pised also. Now just is this my opinion, if you can afford to live in another country and pay for pussy, there is no reason you shouldn't be able to give 50 P. Maybe I am wrong to some of you but I have always found it better and you are able to get more good if you use honey and not vinegar.
[QUOTE=X Man;1251718]Please tell us what charities you donate to, and what would be something good to bring or leave. I regularly leave clothing as a kind of extra tip to the maids since I do some shopping and don't want to be over my weight limit on the next flight. I'd prefer to find a reliable group so that I can be sure my donation is being used efficiently.[/QUOTE]There are numerous organizations in Cebu that work with homeless kids and orphans. If you or any other board members want to donate to a good cause next time you are in town, PM me and I can give you all the info.
[QUOTE=Socker;1251787]Equating hunger for food and a need for a blow job shows your bias. You are a tight wad monger along w / many others.[/QUOTE]It will be interesting to see how he fairs in Cebu next week but judging from his opinion probably not very well.
Some of you guys just keep repeating the same thing. It's only a dollar. Poor girl was hungry.
Give me a big fkn break. She wasn't hungry, she wanted money. I bet she pulls the same stunt with every guy she recognizes as having been a former customer. Considering how gullible some of your are, she probably does fairly well without even turning a trick.
Riverman has been insulted, threatened, called names, vilified, de-karmanized, etc, and of course now the world is going downhill!
Poor guy wasn't feeling well and just wanted to go back to his room. I personally would have said Hi to the girl and kept walking. She wouldn't have had time to ask me for money. X.
[QUOTE=Frenchmen; 1252004]50 peso=1. 17 USD.
I pitty the person who can't spare that amount to feed a hungry mouth, regardless who and in what circumstances.
I guess is not enough to be born in order to qualify for the title of human being, some living among us would need to take a class and pass an exam before they can be called human beings.
No wonder this world is going downhill, It looks like the quantity of humanity stays the same is just the population no. That is growing.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mackin;1252041]After reading all the opinions I can truly say there are both sides to the coin. But, my god it is only about $1. 15 USA. I don't normally hand out money to those asking for it but when it is someone you have known before and that situation has been to your approval, christ, give it to her.[/QUOTE]I think what's missing from this discussion is the fact that this girl isn't just some random stranger asking for money. She provided a good service. And while the monger has no obligation to give, he should do so to retain her services or merely out of compassion.
I think we all agree that if it were some random girl, it's imperative not to give. No matter how humanitarian you feel, you're actually doing these people a disservice because it encourages them to beg and not to be a productive, earning member of society. If you want to help, you should give to recognized charities.
This is my report on Cebu city where I've been staying for almost 4 weeks now.
I'm 30 years old, an everage looking guy. My purpose was meeting regular girls or semi-professional girls. I was really inspired by many posts saying how it's easy to do this in cebu. Well, at least for me it turned out to be slightly complicated.
In overall I managed to get a girl around every 4-5 days.
I started with dateinasia. In the beginning it was really promising, I got 3 girls in 3 days, but after this it became a hell. Why? Because only 10 girls from 100 answered my messages and only 2-3 from this 10 gave me the phone number. Then, many of girls just have never replied to my sms. Those who managed to come for a date were not ready for a quick love story. So after spending a week on internet I concluded that it's too time consuming and switched to other opportunities.
Juliana was a sure option for 2-3 times. 500p for taxi. But not sleeping every night is not an option for me, next day walking like a zombi that's too tiring. I quickly understood that on a long term basis I have to switch to a daytime activity.
That's where I got stuck now. I've read so much sucsessful posts about mall hunting and now I have to admit: either I'm doing something wrong, either it's just a bad luck.
Ayala: I could see maybe 5-6 good looking girls a day, but: they walk with their friends or boyfriends or when I look at a girl she's making a kind of "don't bother me" face I've seen so much at home. There is a couple of hookers and lots of ladyboys but to encounter a single walking girl that will smile you back, that's a luck. Some of girls I approached with "Hi, how are you" were clearly surprised and not open at all. One girl just wanted pics for her facebook with a farang, but nothing more, the other one, I'm trying to date now looks like looking for a serious relationship.
At SM mall it was even worse, I don't feel like girls there were into meeting a foreigner.
What I'm thinking now is maybe I have to start approaching just every good looking girl even accompanied by her friends, but that's still difficult for me, kind of afraid of embarassing situations.
I don't see any other places where I can meet girls, except for nightlife, but that's not for me.
So my conclusion now, if you're looking for freebie girls maybe you should consider a different destination. Philippines are mostly for bar girls, other girls are too much conservative. At least I could not find same ambience I've found in Cuba for example where flirting is just a part of life.
But I'm still here, I feel like maybe I just still haven't got the right game, will try more.
So maybe, those who succeeded more than me, guys, is there anything I'm doing wrong?
@Westcoast1.
My thoughts on your opinion about never showing money on the streets are that is a bit paranoid to do that, what if you are thirsty or hungry yourself, you will just pass on eatin or drinking because you are afraid to be robbed?
I think is not wise to show a big stack of thousands everytime but otherwise just do your thing.
And in regards to the hungry girl if that scared of being mobbed, just take her to the nearest food vendor or even better cover the money in your palm and give it to her very discrete.
Come on, Cebu is far from places like Congo or Rwanda. And even there. I mean you had the courage to come here in the first place instead of some golden cages where the usual westerner tourist goes and now you chicken out for 50 pesos?
Been there and seen that. I was in Cebu last August and I cannot resist writing this. Me and my pinay GF who is a professional in cebu, walked all over the place including colon area during day time. We bought food from the street, bananas and mangos as well as lot of friend junk which I will try in few weeks. I ventured to mango park area by myself in odd hours. Of course there are plenty of beggars around I never had a problem giving few pesos to them as I carried my small in pocket while I left most to f the big ones at my place or when I am with my GF with her. I always paid and even in public it was not a problem. Of course I did not flash out my money in dark streets. I never felt unsafe in cebu, in that matter I felt my unsafe when I was in NYC and my hometown in Colombo. Therefore I disagree with some punters that there are robbers awaiting to grab your pesos at every nook and corner in Cebu. I might me wrong, as my stay was only few days. However, I agree that I will not give anyone with out getting a service money. Same thing happened to me, a lass how visited my hotel, gave me a good service and she called few days later and wanted to do another session for much less. I was with my girl and cannot let her go. I just pretended that I am going to internet cafe and gave this lass 100 pesos and send her away telling the truth that I am with my GF, for which she agreed and obliged. I never saw her again however. Cheers.
David alias colomba
Mattrick, I recommend you post any charity info right here on the thread where it will do the most good. If you prefer, please send it to my pm.
Here where I live (some of you know where that is) I'm involved in a group that does environmental restoration and also raises money for various things, mostly environmental, but also helping disadvantaged children. At the moment one in Africa and one in SE Asia and also some help with a local orphanage. I also spent time shoveling sludge and scrubbin walls in some of the homes and businesses that were left standing after the tsunami floods.
Stop whining about the Riverside story and find some way you can help the world. I know I'll be traveling to Manila soon and contributing to the economy.
[QUOTE=Mattrick; 1252108]There are numerous organizations in Cebu that work with homeless kids and orphans. If you or any other board members want to donate to a good cause next time you are in town, PM me and I can give you all the info.
It will be interesting to see how he fairs in Cebu next week but judging from his opinion probably not very well.[/QUOTE]
re-read my post.
[quote=frenchmen; 1252248]@westcoast1.
my thoughts on your opinion about never showing money on the streets are that is a bit paranoid to do that, what if you are thirsty or hungry yourself, you will just pass on eatin or drinking because you are afraid to be robbed?[/quote]i didn't say anything like that. i said i don't pull money out of my wallet for non-business transactions. of course i'm paying for the taxi, the bottle of water, the mcdo with cash. on day last july, i was sitting at mcdo on jones st, near the fuente circle, outside. there's this cebuana i've mentioned before, we have breakfast there often, between 7. 7:30am. we had just got our food and sat down at an outdoor table. she had a bisaya-speaking newspaper, and i wanted an english paper. she went back inside to grab sugar for the coffee, and i motioned some street kid over, handed him p50 to see if he could find a manila star, telling him to keep the rest. off he went. the lady was just walking back outside, sitting down, as he ran off. she said: "you know better." ya, but its 7:15am, there are very few people about. the kid came back with the newspaper for me, then he walked away. sixty seconds later several other boys walked up, asking if i wanted anything: bottle of water, newspaper. damn. i shoo-ed them off. a minute later they came back, with several other boys, and just hung in the area of jones and the side-street. the security guy at the door would walk out towards them and they would rep001ter, then return. they were only 6-8 years old, and only 5 boys, not exactly a mob. but one of them had seen me hand the boy money. she was right: i know better. worse, she pointed to the newspaper vendor 10 meters away, where i could have bought my own for p20.
[quote=frenchmen;1252248]and in regards to the hungry girl if that scared of being mobbed, just take her to the nearest food vendor[/quote]sure. or nonsense. re-read riverman's original post. he was ill. no need to concern himself with locating and buying something for her at that moment.
[quote=frenchmen;1252248]or even better cover the money in your palm and give it to her very discrete.[/quote]to each his own. its not smart. find a private place. also, there is no problem telling any filipino yes, but at another time / place for discretion. he / she will understand.
[quote=frenchmen;1252248]i mean you had the courage to come here in the first place instead of some golden cages where the usual westerner tourist goes and now you chicken out for 50 pesos?[/quote]confusing fear with smarts. the fewer times you flash jewelry or money in public, the better your overall experience (the fewer opportunities you open for begging or picking your pocket). just sayin'. it's not "chicken out" if i'm willing to give her more than p50 if it can be done non-publicly.
she's a grown, single adult woman. who is responsible for her? the woman herself? her family? the village? riverman? pick one, and stick with your story.
[QUOTE=Frenchmen; 1252248]@Westcoast1.
My thoughts on your opinion about never showing money on the streets are that is a bit paranoid to do that, what if you are thirsty or hungry yourself, you will just pass on eatin or drinking because you are afraid to be robbed?
I think is not wise to show a big stack of thousands everytime but otherwise just do your thing.
And in regards to the hungry girl if that scared of being mobbed, just take her to the nearest food vendor or even better cover the money in your palm and give it to her very discrete.
Come on, Cebu is far from places like Congo or Rwanda. And even there. I mean you had the courage to come here in the first place instead of some golden cages where the usual westerner tourist goes and now you chicken out for 50 pesos?[/QUOTE]Frenchmen,
Let's lay our cards on the table. The Philippines is a place that when visited seems straight-forward and easy to understand by simple observation and interaction. You observe and process and therefore you can make an informed opinion on the events and interactions of the locals with each other and with you. But that informed opinion is an illusion. There are many different layers to Philippine society and there are cultural reasons unique to the region that are often the primary and sometimes secondary motivation behind many of the reasons why locals do what they do. It's a place where time spent in the Philippines directly correlates to understanding and unraveling those layers and gaining a deeper understanding (some actions can never be explained or understood because it defies basic logic).
You posted a month ago that you spent a total of 7days in Cebu back in September 2011 (link below) , and maybe you have spent a few weeks in the Philippines total. Yet you are willing to debate and to pass judgement on another senior member by inferring his reluctance to instantly provide 50p on a busy street was equal to him "chickening out" and questioning his "courage"?
Just goes to show your knowledge and understanding about this subject is as thin as that 50p bill no matter which way you fold it. Calling a senior member out who has spent years in the Philippines because you lack the knowledge to fully understand his reasoning is ludacris.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3302-Cebu-Taxis&p=1232852#post1232852[/url]
[QUOTE=Afaire; 1252244]I don't see any other places where I can meet girls, except for nightlife, but that's not for me.
But I'm still here, I feel like maybe I just still haven't got the right game, will try more.
So maybe, those who succeeded more than me, guys, is there anything I'm doing wrong?[/QUOTE]Would you consider going to Ayala, going to Terraces and buying a coffee. Sit outside at Bo's Coffee or maybe Seattle coffee. Take a book / magazine and relax. Enjoy yourself and be relaxed. Make chat with your fellow coffee drinkers. Give the waitress your number.
Later, head up to TGI Fridays, take a seat outside, have a drink, relax.
BTW, sometimes it will be the most unexpected people whom will turn out to be good friends.
If all else fails, treat yourself to a massage at the Spa and be pampered for an hour or so.
Just some thoughts, no guarantees.
[QUOTE=Afaire; 1252244]This is my report on Cebu city where I've been staying for almost 4 weeks now.
That's where I got stuck now. I've read so much successful posts about mall hunting and now I have to admit: either I'm doing something wrong, either it's just a bad luck.
Ayala: I could see maybe 5-6 good looking girls a day, but: they walk with their friends or boyfriends or when I look at a girl she's making a kind of "don't bother me" face I've seen so much at home. There is a couple of hookers and lots of ladyboys but to encounter a single walking girl that will smile you back, that's a luck. Some of girls I approached with "Hi, how are you" were clearly surprised and not open at all. One girl just wanted pics for her facebook with a farang, but nothing more, the other one, I'm trying to date now looks like looking for a serious relationship.
At SM mall it was even worse, I don't feel like girls there were into meeting a foreigner.
What I'm thinking now is maybe I have to start approaching just every good looking girl even accompanied by her friends, but that's still difficult for me, kind of afraid of embarassing situations.
I don't see any other places where I can meet girls, except for nightlife, but that's not for me.
But I'm still here, I feel like maybe I just still haven't got the right game, will try more.
So maybe, those who succeeded more than me, guys, is there anything I'm doing wrong?[/QUOTE]If it's any consolation, I've never really had much luck at the malls, although I did have one girl approach me while I was waiting for my gf.
I'd try Colon. Check out the shops, and the streets after mass at the Santo Nino Shrine on Sunday. Increase your number of approaches. Hand out calling cards. If one girl doesn't pan out, tell her what you're looking for, hand her the card anyway.often you'll find that a dead end can pay off when her friend / cousin / neighbor is interested.
I find that mall hunting is for the more experienced lot and you as a first timer will have hard time picking up the right vibes. Also older gents seem to get it easier because the mall rats know what they are there for. Just like you they often assume you may already have someone and so on. Maybe you should hang more around areas in the mall (been discussed here before) where you can start a conversation easier with girls seating next to your table. Jolleebee, McDs and so on have worked for me. Best way for you though would be hunting for phone numbers at night where you seem more confident to approach the girls and then texting them over the next few days and arranging dates. Make sure you leave an impression to be remembered while chatting to them. Don't flash money if you want a freebee do it in a subtle way, I often give them nicknames and joke with them so its easy for her to remember who she is chatting to in few days. Try the discos around IT Park.
[QUOTE=Afaire; 1252244]This is my report on Cebu city where I've been staying for almost 4 weeks now.
I'm 30 years old, an everage looking guy. My purpose was meeting regular girls or semi-professional girls. I was really inspired by many posts saying how it's easy to do this in cebu. Well, at least for me it turned out to be slightly complicated.
In overall I managed to get a girl around every 4-5 days.
I started with dateinasia. In the beginning it was really promising, I got 3 girls in 3 days, but after this it became a hell. Why? Because only 10 girls from 100 answered my messages and only 2-3 from this 10 gave me the phone number. Then, many of girls just have never replied to my sms. Those who managed to come for a date were not ready for a quick love story. So after spending a week on internet I concluded that it's too time consuming and switched to other opportunities.
Juliana was a sure option for 2-3 times. 500p for taxi. But not sleeping every night is not an option for me, next day walking like a zombi that's too tiring. I quickly understood that on a long term basis I have to switch to a daytime activity.
That's where I got stuck now. I've read so much sucsessful posts about mall hunting and now I have to admit: either I'm doing something wrong, either it's just a bad luck.
Ayala: I could see maybe 5-6 good looking girls a day, but: they walk with their friends or boyfriends or when I look at a girl she's making a kind of "don't bother me" face I've seen so much at home. There is a couple of hookers and lots of ladyboys but to encounter a single walking girl that will smile you back, that's a luck. Some of girls I approached with "Hi, how are you" were clearly surprised and not open at all. One girl just wanted pics for her facebook with a farang, but nothing more, the other one, I'm trying to date now looks like looking for a serious relationship.
At SM mall it was even worse, I don't feel like girls there were into meeting a foreigner.
What I'm thinking now is maybe I have to start approaching just every good looking girl even accompanied by her friends, but that's still difficult for me, kind of afraid of embarassing situations.
I don't see any other places where I can meet girls, except for nightlife, but that's not for me.
So my conclusion now, if you're looking for freebie girls maybe you should consider a different destination. Philippines are mostly for bar girls, other girls are too much conservative. At least I could not find same ambience I've found in Cuba for example where flirting is just a part of life.
But I'm still here, I feel like maybe I just still haven't got the right game, will try more.
So maybe, those who succeeded more than me, guys, is there anything I'm doing wrong?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Afaire; 1252244]Ayala: I could see maybe 5-6 good looking girls a day, but: they walk with their friends or boyfriends or when I look at a girl she's making a kind of "don't bother me" face I've seen so much at home. There is a couple of hookers and lots of ladyboys but to encounter a single walking girl that will smile you back, that's a luck. Some of girls I approached with "Hi, how are you" were clearly surprised and not open at all. One girl just wanted pics for her facebook with a farang, but nothing more, the other one, I'm trying to date now looks like looking for a serious relationship.
At SM mall it was even worse, I don't feel like girls there were into meeting a foreigner.[/QUOTE]Since you only have 3 posts, I surmise you're pretty new to the world of mongering. If so, welcome aboard!
Unfortunately, your views on getting freebies in the Philippines are way too optimistic. Keep in mind that this is a mongering forum. You will always find guys with massive egos telling tall-tales of exploit. But most of that is just hot air. So take what you read here and elsewhere with a grain of salt.
If you want freebies from non-pros, you will need approaching skills, patience, and an innate ability to convey a fun, youthful demeanor. Filipinas are a conservative lot. Not to mention, despite anything you might have read on these forums, your typical Filipina does NOT prefer foreigners or older men. Most would rather die than be caught with some white guy. So you have your work cut out for you if you want a Filipina at the mall to stop and give you the light of day.
This is especially true of young attractive ones (the ones I bet you'd want for freebies). They're certainly not going to spread their legs easily or for free.
Yes, it's easier to pickup freebies in the Philippines than in Western countries. But "easier" does not mean "easy". I suggest you stop relying solely on freebies and consider just paying for it. You'll get higher quality girls quicker and it may even cost you less in the long term.
Mc Don, SergeantRay, thank you for the comments!
@Westcoast1,
I did not said that you are not right when you talk about minimizing risks by not flashing money, I just said that I don't think in those circumstances giving 50 peso to the girl would have made the guy a target.
I will just keep being the devil's advocate and ask you if the situation was slightly different and if the guy was really horny and wanted to be serviced by the girl but she would say,"OK, I will come with you but I need 50 p now to.", I have the feeling he would have not been that reluctant at all to hand the money.
The whole subject here was about feeding someone you know when they were hungry. Everythin else is just chit-chat. Not about handing money to beggars, not about endangering yourself. None of this.
@Stroker Ace88,
I don't mean any disrespect for no one here or elsewhere and I don't like to start fights, I just state my opinions and I respect everyone else opinions regardless if I chose to agree or disagree.
As for how seniority makes you an authority on any given subject, I can give you quite a few examples from my BJJ gym that are very long time practitioners yet they get their asses kicked by some young guy who started training les than a year ago. I brought this comparison as I find BJJ to be same as you described The Philippines:"straight forward and easy to understand by simple observation and intercation"
Anyway, I will get out of this discussion because I see no point on going on, if one can't spare a buck to help a fellow human being when in need. I pitty him.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1251925]I totally missed the fact that Cebu MidTown (above Robinson's at Fuente Osmena) is now called Summit Circle Hotel.
I used to always stay there before (from 1997 until 2008) but when it became a bit jaded and old and, more importantly, they jacked up the prices, I went elsewhere.
It looks as though it has been renovated (from a website I just saw) and the price is now around 16, 000 php for 7 nights (double) that seems very good to me (I work on the basis that anything under or up to 3000 per night is OK for me).
Any updated reviews on this place please?[/QUOTE]I just returned from my Phillipines trip and spent 5 of those night in the Summit Circle Hotel. The hotel was very nice and newly renovated. All ceramic floors in the room (look like hardwood) , granite tile in the bathroom, nice shower with rainfall and handheld, large in room safe, good wifi, fridge, nice couch and sitting area which we had a little in room party, great view of the circle and skywalk / edgecoaster at the crown regency hotel next door.
Room rates where 3600p booked on agoda the first night, next 3 nights were stay 2 nights at 3000p and get the 3rd night free (2000p / night) all including a nice, not great, breakfast buffet for 2. I also needed to extend 1 more night and got a rate of 1800p without breakfast.
The location is good with direct access to the mall, but outside there are a lot of street people. I also tried the Comedy Club across the street. What a mistake. Apparently Comedy club in the Phils is completely different than in the USA. It was a drag queen managing drunken Karaoke.
Also thanks to the board members that PM'd me. My PM is not active at this time so I could not reply.
[QUOTE=Afaire;1252244]That's where I got stuck now. I've read so much sucsessful posts about mall hunting and now I have to admit: either I'm doing something wrong, either it's just a bad luck.[/QUOTE]Forget Ayala and SM and try the smaller malls. Robinsons Fuente and Cybergate, Country mall, E-mall and Gaisano locations.
[QUOTE=Mattrick;1252517]Forget Ayala and SM and try the smaller malls. Robinsons Fuente and Cybergate, Country mall, E-mall and Gaisano locations.[/QUOTE]What are usually the best hours to go?
[QUOTE=Afaire; 1252244]This is my report on Cebu city where I've been staying for almost 4 weeks now.
I'm 30 years old, an everage looking guy. My purpose was meeting regular girls or semi-professional girls. I was really inspired by many posts saying how it's easy to do this in cebu. Well, at least for me it turned out to be slightly complicated.[/QUOTE]Yes 30 looking will not get you quick sex it will get you a gf.
[QUOTE=Afaire;1252244]At SM mall it was even worse, I don't feel like girls there were into meeting a foreigner.[/QUOTE]I have only ever picked up sales ladies there and they take weeks to get to even meet you.
[QUOTE=Afaire;1252244]What I'm thinking now is maybe I have to start approaching just every good looking girl even accompanied by her friends, but that's still difficult for me, kind of afraid of embarassing situations.[/QUOTE]That what I do.
[QUOTE=Afaire;1252244]I don't see any other places where I can meet girls, except for nightlife, but that's not for me.[/QUOTE]Night life will get you the freelancers.
[QUOTE=Afaire;1252244]So my conclusion now, if you're looking for freebie girls maybe you should consider a different destination. Philippines are mostly for bar girls, other girls are too much conservative. At least I could not find same ambience I've found in Cuba for example where flirting is just a part of life.[/QUOTE]Do not come to PI looking for freebie sex, unless you look like a movie star and even then pay them to leave or you may find a stalker.
[QUOTE=Afaire; 1252244]But I'm still here, I feel like maybe I just still haven't got the right game, will try more.
So maybe, those who succeeded more than me, guys, is there anything I'm doing wrong?[/QUOTE]Catch up let me show you what I know from living here 5 years
Guys, Please stop posting in Cebu Forum thread. That is here. Ever since Jackson created separate forum for cebu, its getting more confusing by the day now that we have multiple threads and a separate forum for Cebu itself but the valuable information posted by members are getting spread everywhere.
Just to remind everyone, check. You are here.
Forum... Asia ...The Philippines.... Cebu Forum.
A new sub-forum for Cebu with many categories was created few days back. You should be here.
Forum... Asia.... The Philippines. Cebu.
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Forum Asia The Philippines Cebu Forum <<< This should have been JUST A LINK TO THE MAIN CEBU FORUM. Jackson please do the necessary changes. I have send a mail also to jackson to correct it...Thanks
[QUOTE=FurryFriend; 1252462]Since you only have 3 posts, I surmise you're pretty new to the world of mongering. If so, welcome aboard!
Unfortunately, your views on getting freebies in the Philippines are way too optimistic. Keep in mind that this is a mongering forum. You will always find guys with massive egos telling tall-tales of exploit. But most of that is just hot air. So take what you read here and elsewhere with a grain of salt.
If you want freebies from non-pros, you will need approaching skills, patience, and an innate ability to convey a fun, youthful demeanor. Filipinas are a conservative lot. Not to mention, despite anything you might have read on these forums, your typical Filipina does NOT prefer foreigners or older men. Most would rather die than be caught with some white guy. So you have your work cut out for you if you want a Filipina at the mall to stop and give you the light of day.
This is especially true of young attractive ones (the ones I bet you'd want for freebies). They're certainly not going to spread their legs easily or for free.
Yes, it's easier to pickup freebies in the Philippines than in Western countries. But "easier" does not mean "easy". I suggest you stop relying solely on freebies and consider just paying for it. You'll get higher quality girls quicker and it may even cost you less in the long term.[/QUOTE]No offence intended but I really cannot agree with your claims regarding freebies, non-pros etc. First, I am not into tall tales. I have a rather settled life in this country where I have a very liberal live-in girlfriend who is just over 30 years old and I really do not get the barely legal scene or even the early 20s scene either. But even though I am closing in on 60, I get checked out by women all the time. And I get offered freebies too by women half my age.
Filipinas are not forward or aggressive in their approach. They will prefer to wait for the man to make his move. They love to flirt and they will do so, much much more than Western women who are conservative in that sense.
Uneducated women from the countryside will be conservative in their sexual tastes but only so long as it takes to educate them. And all you need to do is introduce them to some new stuff. They love porn and don't mind if you watch some porn, unlike western women who see porn as almost cheating, demeaning to women etc.
Filipinas do prefer foreign men for the following reasons. We don't beat them up, we respect them more and we play away less than local guys. Of course, if you go after the average 18-23 types, they might still hope for a local guy. But not the ladies with even a small amount of experience. Unlike Thailand, I have never heard or seen of any anti-foreign attitudes by locals. Yes, you are more likely to be mugged in Manila because you are a foreign but that is because they reckon that you are worth mugging.
I don't agree with the youthful demeanor. Many local men here have second "wives" who are much younger. Yes, if you go around with a long face and a sour attitude you will not get lucky. It is a national characteristic for people to be optimistic and thats the way they like it in others. But age has absolutely nothing to do with it. In fact, some girls prefer older guys who have more experience and a lower sex drive, meaning less cheating, less rough sex etc - and I do not mean the dirt poor girls either.
There is only one place where I would say that it will be hard or expensive to get or buy young women, and that is in the more upper-class parts of Manila. But even upper class families are not against a foreign guy in the family as long as he is high-so or rich. But then are we fishing in the top 5% pool here? Hardly.
Yes, many filipinas would not be caught dead with some old dead-beat looking white guy who has a sour attitude. But someone with a sunny disposition, who looks after his appearance and treats his ladies well will have a wide range of choice, even if he is in his sixties. I am getting too old to take up every offer but I get the look almost on a daily basis, especially outside Luzon and away from the tourist sites where the hookers are out in force. And even those who look like slobs and have a bad attitude still can get themselves a girl from the countryside. You see them all over the place.
[quote=sergeantray; 1252457]if it's any consolation, i've never really had much luck at the malls, although i did have one girl approach me while i was waiting for my gf.
i'd try colon. check out the shops, and the streets after mass at the santo nino shrine on sunday. increase your number of approaches. hand out calling cards. if one girl doesn't pan out, tell her what you're looking for, hand her the card anyway. often you'll find that a dead end can pay off when her friend / cousin / neighbor is interested.[/quote]for those guys who cannot get connected in cebu, here are two possible scenarios:
regular girls: pay a girl to hang out with you to be your guide. tell her that there is no sex. all you are providing her is with money for her time and advice. get her to read the signs for you, who might be interested an who is not. and, it is a funny thing but if you already have a woman in tow, other women do check you out more! if you find a good guide, then perhaps you can get her to hand out your card or approach another woman for you. hey, it is a novel approach and you might learn something! if she is local, she may either find you the best locations or even get you one of her relatives.
pay for sex girls: either head to the streets around colon where you get the street girls. be careful that you don't get an **** one. and never trust her with money or anything. or check out the university girls by hanging out near universities. i have heard that one can find uni girls who will go with older guys for money but it will cost you but they are good looking (and that tip was from a local guy. but when i asked him about the sex, he said it was average and the girl was really for show).
[QUOTE=Starchild2012; 1252552]Guys, Please stop posting in Cebu Forum thread. That is here. Ever since Jackson created separate forum for cebu, its getting more confusing by the day now that we have multiple threads and a separate forum for Cebu itself but the valuable information posted by members are getting spread everywhere.
Just to remind everyone, check. You are here.
Forum. Asia. The Philippines. Cebu Forum.
A new sub-forum for Cebu with many categories was created few days back. You should be here.
Forum. Asia. The Philippines. Cebu.
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Forum Asia The Philippines Cebu Forum <<< This should have been JUST A LINK TO THE MAIN CEBU FORUM. Jackson please do the necessary changes. I have send a mail also to Jackson to correct it. Thanks[/QUOTE]Thanks for the head up. I been using a book mark so I will update it to [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?773-The-Philippines-Cebu[/url]
[QUOTE=Afaire; 1252244]This is my report on Cebu city where I've been staying for almost 4 weeks now.
I'm 30 years old, an everage looking guy. My purpose was meeting regular girls or semi-professional girls. I was really inspired by many posts saying how it's easy to do this in cebu. Well, at least for me it turned out to be slightly complicated.
In overall I managed to get a girl around every 4-5 days.
I started with dateinasia. In the beginning it was really promising, I got 3 girls in 3 days, but after this it became a hell. Why? Because only 10 girls from 100 answered my messages and only 2-3 from this 10 gave me the phone number. Then, many of girls just have never replied to my sms. Those who managed to come for a date were not ready for a quick love story. So after spending a week on internet I concluded that it's too time consuming and switched to other opportunities.
Juliana was a sure option for 2-3 times. 500p for taxi. But not sleeping every night is not an option for me, next day walking like a zombi that's too tiring. I quickly understood that on a long term basis I have to switch to a daytime activity.
That's where I got stuck now. I've read so much sucsessful posts about mall hunting and now I have to admit: either I'm doing something wrong, either it's just a bad luck.
Ayala: I could see maybe 5-6 good looking girls a day, but: they walk with their friends or boyfriends or when I look at a girl she's making a kind of "don't bother me" face I've seen so much at home. There is a couple of hookers and lots of ladyboys but to encounter a single walking girl that will smile you back, that's a luck. Some of girls I approached with "Hi, how are you" were clearly surprised and not open at all. One girl just wanted pics for her facebook with a farang, but nothing more, the other one, I'm trying to date now looks like looking for a serious relationship.
At SM mall it was even worse, I don't feel like girls there were into meeting a foreigner.
What I'm thinking now is maybe I have to start approaching just every good looking girl even accompanied by her friends, but that's still difficult for me, kind of afraid of embarassing situations.
I don't see any other places where I can meet girls, except for nightlife, but that's not for me.
So my conclusion now, if you're looking for freebie girls maybe you should consider a different destination. Philippines are mostly for bar girls, other girls are too much conservative. At least I could not find same ambience I've found in Cuba for example where flirting is just a part of life.
But I'm still here, I feel like maybe I just still haven't got the right game, will try more.
So maybe, those who succeeded more than me, guys, is there anything I'm doing wrong?[/QUOTE]I don't know that your doing anything wrong. Part of the success with the DIA and mall thing has to do with seasonal timing factors. Your typical filipina (talking about the the young 18-22 cuties) are pretty consverative, so the ones who go for foreigners either for bf or for semi-pro action are either very poor or just need university money.
Hence the timing issue. Right now is a bad time for the college girls becuase their term ends in mid to late March. Right now is final exam prep and end of term papers / projects etc. They have already had to come up with the money for that stuff and they are busy doing it now. Its even worse for the graduating students as they have to prep for that.
So, right now and for the next 2 to 4 weeks, you will see a shortage of these girls looking for hook ups. When their summer break starts (end of March thru the beginning of June) you will again see a nice upsurge of these girls on DIA and in the malls. Towards the end of May is particularly good as so many of these girls need money for tuition / books / uniforms at the beginning of the next term. Then as school starts their is again a bit of a drop off, etc.
When the college girl drought hits, your best bet is the 23-30 range of girls as non pro's are concerned. Cheers
[QUOTE=Riverman; 1253586]I don't know that your doing anything wrong. Part of the success with the DIA and mall thing has to do with seasonal timing factors. Your typical filipina (talking about the the young 18-22 cuties) are pretty consverative, so the ones who go for foreigners either for bf or for semi-pro action are either very poor or just need university money.
Hence the timing issue. Right now is a bad time for the college girls becuase their term ends in mid to late March. Right now is final exam prep and end of term papers / projects etc. They have already had to come up with the money for that stuff and they are busy doing it now. Its even worse for the graduating students as they have to prep for that.
So, right now and for the next 2 to 4 weeks, you will see a shortage of these girls looking for hook ups. When their summer break starts (end of March thru the beginning of June) you will again see a nice upsurge of these girls on DIA and in the malls. Towards the end of May is particularly good as so many of these girls need money for tuition / books / uniforms at the beginning of the next term. Then as school starts their is again a bit of a drop off, etc.
When the college girl drought hits, your best bet is the 23-30 range of girls as non pro's are concerned. Cheers[/QUOTE]Riverman it looks like you have it down to a science. You are right. Timing is everything. I just arrived in Cebu (my first time) from Coron. I met a stunner on DIA yesterday and the timing was just right. It's the first of the month and rent is due! The first convo:
L: me not good.
Mr E: why.
L: problem about my rent a room.
Mr E: no problem. You come see me tomorrow.
L: what do umean?
Mr E: you come see me.
L: where?
Mr E: hotel.
L: are you in cebu ryt now? Where?
Mr E: I tell you tomorrow when time for you to come. What is your phone number?
L: ok call me.
I texted her at 6:30 while still in Manila and she said she would be here at 9, but like I always read they are always late. She called at 9 and I asked where she was. She said something about taking a shower and the new time is 10:30. If she is not here by then I might just head to check out Mango.
[QUOTE=Riverman; 1253586]I don't know that your doing anything wrong. Part of the success with the DIA and mall thing has to do with seasonal timing factors. Your typical filipina (talking about the the young 18-22 cuties) are pretty consverative, so the ones who go for foreigners either for bf or for semi-pro action are either very poor or just need university money.
Hence the timing issue. Right now is a bad time for the college girls becuase their term ends in mid to late March. Right now is final exam prep and end of term papers / projects etc. They have already had to come up with the money for that stuff and they are busy doing it now. Its even worse for the graduating students as they have to prep for that.
So, right now and for the next 2 to 4 weeks, you will see a shortage of these girls looking for hook ups. When their summer break starts (end of March thru the beginning of June) you will again see a nice upsurge of these girls on DIA and in the malls. Towards the end of May is particularly good as so many of these girls need money for tuition / books / uniforms at the beginning of the next term. Then as school starts their is again a bit of a drop off, etc.
When the college girl drought hits, your best bet is the 23-30 range of girls as non pro's are concerned. Cheers[/QUOTE]Good research. In reality there are girls who make money by sleeping with foreigners and there are girls who try to scam to make money by promising everything and there are girls who will meet foreigners for a free meal without any body contact.
Last category girls will be very hard to break in even if you live there and meet often. Scammers maybe pursuaded to give in if they see there is no way they are going to get free money.
First category of girls have learned that they can make money anytime by sleeping with foreigners. There are no specific calendar to see when they need money. If the opportunity is there irrespective of if they need money for tuition, rent or whatever they are ready. But as everybody knows it is not like they just go outside and find foreigners, have sex and take money home. While they chat also they seem more interested if you are already in Philippines. Some girls even told me they chatted with some men for months but men never made the trip to meet them.
[QUOTE=Riverman; 1253586]I don't know that your doing anything wrong. Part of the success with the DIA and mall thing has to do with seasonal timing factors. Your typical filipina (talking about the the young 18-22 cuties) are pretty consverative, so the ones who go for foreigners either for bf or for semi-pro action are either very poor or just need university money.
Hence the timing issue. Right now is a bad time for the college girls becuase their term ends in mid to late March. Right now is final exam prep and end of term papers / projects etc. They have already had to come up with the money for that stuff and they are busy doing it now. Its even worse for the graduating students as they have to prep for that.
So, right now and for the next 2 to 4 weeks, you will see a shortage of these girls looking for hook ups. When their summer break starts (end of March thru the beginning of June) you will again see a nice upsurge of these girls on DIA and in the malls. Towards the end of May is particularly good as so many of these girls need money for tuition / books / uniforms at the beginning of the next term. Then as school starts their is again a bit of a drop off, etc.
When the college girl drought hits, your best bet is the 23-30 range of girls as non pro's are concerned. Cheers[/QUOTE]Good research. In reality there are girls who make money by sleeping with foreigners and there are girls who try to scam to make money by promising everything and there are girls who will meet foreigners for a free meal without any body contact.
Last category girls will be very hard to break in even if you live there and meet often. Scammers maybe pursuaded to give in if they see there is no way they are going to get free money.
First category of girls have learned that they can make money anytime by sleeping with foreigners. There are no specific calendar to see when they need money. If the opportunity is there irrespective of if they need money for tuition, rent or whatever they are ready. But as everybody knows it is not like they just go outside and find foreigners, have sex and take money home. While they chat also they seem more interested if you are already in Philippines. Some girls even told me they chatted with some men for months but men never made the trip to meet them.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1253671]Riverman it looks like you have it down to a science. You are right. Timing is everything. I just arrived in Cebu (my first time) from Coron. I met a stunner on DIA yesterday and the timing was just right. It's the first of the month and rent is due! The first convo:
L: me not good.
Mr E: why.
L: problem about my rent a room.
Mr E: no problem. You come see me tomorrow.
L: what do umean?
Mr E: you come see me.
L: where?
Mr E: hotel.
L: are you in cebu ryt now? Where?
Mr E: I tell you tomorrow when time for you to come. What is your phone number?
L: ok call me.
I texted her at 6:30 while still in Manila and she said she would be here at 9, but like I always read they are always late. She called at 9 and I asked where she was. She said something about taking a shower and the new time is 10:30. If she is not here by then I might just head to check out Mango.[/QUOTE]Good luck with your DIA contact. If you end up at mango later in the evening around 9/10 pm there is usually a string of 18 to 25 year old pro's in front of the National Bookstore directly accross the CalTex gas station. If you walk noth on that side street to the next intersection there is usually another 3 to 5 girls hanging out. If you continue north further there are a couple of other clusters of girls at a couple of other points, the last one being Ma. Christina street. Then around the fuente circle and in front of Robinsons there are often girls hanging out or walking around offering "massages." Just beware the ladyboys. If the girl is rather tall with big boobs there is about a 99% chance she's a ladyboy. Then of course there's Juliana's for the semi-pro's and the nearby go go bars. Cheers
[quote=mr enternational; 1253671]riverman it looks like you have it down to a science. you are right. timing is everything. i just arrived in cebu (my first time) from coron. i met a stunner on dia yesterday and the timing was just right. it's the first of the month and rent is due!
i texted her at 6:30 while still in manila and she said she would be here at 9, but like i always read they are always late. she called at 9 and i asked where she was. she said something about taking a shower and the new time is 10:30. if she is not here by then i might just head to check out mango.[/quote]said dia contact was taking too long for me. after all, i had already been in cebu 2 hours and hadn't had any pussy. but not to worry because dia contact 2 was blowing me up. just to give dia contact 1 a little more time i told dia contact 2 that i would call and let her know if it was okay to come after i got out of the shower.
when i got out of the shower contact 1 was out of time. i called and told her not to come because she was taking too much time. she said that she was waiting for a taxi (1 hour and a half after she should have already arrived.) i told her to forget it and i would just see her tomorrow. (it is now 7am and she is asking to come. i told her i will call later because i am sleep.) i gave contact 2 the green light to come over. i had only chatted with her once the day before for like 2 minutes and she was saying something about her father dying. she asked me if it was okay if she took a taxi and i approved it.
when she arrived she sent me a text and i sent a text back asking how much was the taxi. she said 70. i took that amount downstairs to pay the guy. when i got outside there was another girl in the taxi as well. she said it was her bodyguard and she could either wait downstairs or come join us if i would like. (you got to really try not to get laid in this place.) i invited them both up. the contact went to take a shower while the bodyguard stayed with me. the bodyguard said she was scared because she never fucked a foreigner before because their dicks are too big so she only wanted to suck. i declined that invitation but decided to make her the picture girl instead. when the contact came back she started sucking my dick and the bodyguard got a few snapshots of it before running off and hiding in the bathroom. after about 15 minutes i told her to get her ass back in here and get on the camera. soon my girl started to rush me. i admonished her. when everything was over i gave her 1000 pesos. this is when the drama started.
the bodyguard said that her friend said i promised her 3000 pesos. i said no it must be someone else she was talking to. they tried to use the father dying card and how everyone was at the house and they had to buy snacks and drinks and bread. i told them that the 1000 could go towards that but anything over i will not be liable for. she went on about how i took pictures and she had never done that before so i needed to give her 500 more or erase the pictures. i told her that if i erased the pictures the 1000 was going to turn into 500. she went off to the bathroom to smoke and the bodyguard kept trying to weasel more money out of me; 100 for taxi, tip for her. she was wasting her time. the contact returned and the same song and dance. dad died, funeral, snacks, i don't have a good heart because i won't give more money, yada yada yada. it was going in one ear and out the other.
i finally decided to turn the tv on and pay them no attention. next they both went in the bathroom and that was my cue. i went over to the door and opened it to let them out (since the bathroom is right next to the entry door.) i peeked into the bathroom and all of the complimentary toothbrushes were gone, my personal toothbrush was gone, and my tube of personal toothpaste was emptied from the tube. the bodyguard looked at me quickly and showed me her purse saying it wasn't her. now they were out in the hall and i saw my toothbrush on the room service tray that the people across the hall had left out to be picked up. i got it and went back into the room.
a few minutes later i received a text saying,"thank you for making me upset. hope you are hapy to make a person felt bad." i did not reply. i changed clothes and went to mango.
[QUOTE=Starchild2012;1252552]Guys, Please stop posting in Cebu Forum thread. That is here. Ever since Jackson created separate forum for cebu, its getting more confusing by the day now that we have multiple threads and a separate forum for Cebu itself but the valuable information posted by members are getting spread everywhere.[/QUOTE]How do I get back to the MAIN Cebu Forum?
Someone posted a link here the other day. I used that and got the full Cebu forum. I am confused now because I cannot find Cebu, just Cebu Forum
Here? [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1004-General-Information[/url]
Thanks to Frenzy for the bookmark. Jackson has confused things...I'm not quite sure why.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1253863]How do I get back to the MAIN Cebu Forum?
Someone posted a link here the other day. I used that and got the full Cebu forum. I am confused now because I cannot find Cebu, just Cebu Forum[/QUOTE]Red Kilt. If that link isn't handy I've also found if you're in the new Cebu section linked to from the Front page after you log in, if you scroll up near the top of the page where it says Forum Asia The Phippines Cebu Forum, etc, etc. If you click on "asia" within that string it will bring you to a "sub-forums" list and scrolling down you will find the Main Cebu section. For some odd reason this is the only place I can find it to be accessed in this matrix.
[QUOTE=David_33; 1253869]Here?
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1004-General-Information[/url]
Thanks to Frenzy for the bookmark. Jackson has confused things. I'm not quite sure why.[/QUOTE]Thanks David (and Frenzy too) for the link.
I am glad it wasn't just me who was confused.
Let's hope we can get this "corrected" so that we can get back to the different threads under Cebu.
[quote=mr enternational; 1253810]. this is when the drama started.
the bodyguard said that her friend said i promised her 3000 pesos. i said no it must be someone else she was talking to. they tried to use the father dying card and how everyone was at the house and they had to buy snacks and drinks and bread. i told them that the 1000 could go towards that but anything over i will not be liable for. she went on about how i took pictures and she had never done that before so i needed to give her 500 more or erase the pictures. i told her that if i erased the pictures the 1000 was going to turn into 500. she went off to the bathroom to smoke and the bodyguard kept trying to weasel more money out of me; 100 for taxi, tip for her. she was wasting her time. the contact returned and the same song and dance. dad died, funeral, snacks, i don't have a good heart because i won't give more money, yada yada yada. it was going in one ear and out the other.
i finally decided to turn the tv on and pay them no attention. next they both went in the bathroom and that was my cue. i went over to the door and opened it to let them out (since the bathroom is right next to the entry door.) i peeked into the bathroom and all of the complimentary toothbrushes were gone, my personal toothbrush was gone, and my tube of personal toothpaste was emptied from the tube. the bodyguard looked at me quickly and showed me her purse saying it wasn't her. now they were out in the hall and i saw my toothbrush on the room service tray that the people across the hall had left out to be picked up. i got it and went back into the room.
a few minutes later i received a text saying,"thank you for making me upset. hope you are hapy to make a person felt bad." i did not reply. i changed clothes and went to mango.[/quote]i congraluate you on keeping your cool. if you had either over or under reacted to that nonesense the situation could have turned out much worse.
these girls can be just innocently rep001ter brained, but my experience has consistently shown me that whenever they radically alter things at the last minute and suprise you like that, they always turn out bad. so now, if they tell me their in the taxi alone and they show up with someone, or they agree they can bring 1 person to the 1st meet and they bring 2 or 3, or whatever the bullshit is, i just immediately pass on them. if i haven't even met them, and they seen to angling for every freebie under the sun via text while they are "on the way" i pass. etc etc. i'm just tired of that bullshit and go on to the next.
never do those chicks suprise to the upside when they are pulling that shit. from a bar i will take 2 girls i've never met before. but if its street or dia action, i hook up with the girl solo first before she can bring anyone into a room alone with me on a subsequent date. to a first meet in a public place, fine, she can bring a chaperon. but never to the room.
[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1251417]Jackson,
Thanks for creating a new sub-forum for Cebu, much appreciated!
Can I make a few small suggestions. Can you transfer the recent posts on this newly created 'Cebu Forum' link and paste them in the 'Cebu General Information' thread and lock this thread? After this thread progresses a few pages your original post which contains the link to the Cebu section will become buried.
The original thread has 6200+ posts and this new thread assumes the same function as the older one thus creating two threads about the same topic. Some guys are already confused and this would just streamline and keep all the general topic posts together on one thread.
Can you transfer posts (#345 through #355) on the 'Cebu Hotels' thread and paste them in the newly created 'Buying-Owning-Renting Property in Cebu' section as the topic deals with condo ownership.
I know you are busy sorry for the disturbance. I tried to PM you my thoughts but your inbox is full.
Thanks once again.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1253863]How do I get back to the MAIN Cebu Forum?
Someone posted a link here the other day. I used that and got the full Cebu forum. I am confused now because I cannot find Cebu, just Cebu Forum[/QUOTE]Red Kilt,
When Jackson expanded the Cebu thread to a new sub-section I posted my thoughts on the subject as noted above. I maintain the posts on this thread should be moved to the original 'Cebu General Info' thread which contain 6200+ posts and lock this thread creating a simple and easy portal to the expanded Cebu section.
To find the new Cebu sub-section I go to the first post which contains the link and gain entry that way. Some here have bookmarked the sub-section.
[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88;1253894]To find the new Cebu sub-section I go to the first post which contains the link and gain entry that way. Some here have bookmarked the sub-section.[/QUOTE]That's great Stroker.
Actually Riverman's tip (see Post #71) is also good.
No doubt Jackson will pick it up soon when he can.
[QUOTE=Riverman; 1253586]I don't know that your doing anything wrong. Part of the success with the DIA and mall thing has to do with seasonal timing factors. Your typical filipina (talking about the the young 18-22 cuties) are pretty consverative, so the ones who go for foreigners either for bf or for semi-pro action are either very poor or just need university money.
Hence the timing issue. Right now is a bad time for the college girls becuase their term ends in mid to late March. Right now is final exam prep and end of term papers / projects etc. They have already had to come up with the money for that stuff and they are busy doing it now. Its even worse for the graduating students as they have to prep for that.
So, right now and for the next 2 to 4 weeks, you will see a shortage of these girls looking for hook ups. When their summer break starts (end of March thru the beginning of June) you will again see a nice upsurge of these girls on DIA and in the malls. Towards the end of May is particularly good as so many of these girls need money for tuition / books / uniforms at the beginning of the next term. Then as school starts their is again a bit of a drop off, etc.
When the college girl drought hits, your best bet is the 23-30 range of girls as non pro's are concerned. Cheers[/QUOTE]Excellent info on the timing, mate. Thanks much!
[QUOTE=Gaijin Gigolo;1254036]Excellent info on the timing, mate. Thanks much![/QUOTE]My pleasure GG, good hunting.
[QUOTE=Starchild2012;1252552]Guys, Please stop posting in Cebu Forum thread. That is here.[/QUOTE]So I would think this thread is now obsolete! ?
I am looking for a place to watch the upcoming NCAA basketball tournament in Cebu City. Does anybody have any suggestions?
[QUOTE=Levdog;1256910]I am looking for a place to watch the upcoming NCAA basketball tournament in Cebu City. Does anybody have any suggestions?[/QUOTE]All Sports Network (ASN) Skycable channel 69 will show some games. Not sure which games or if they will be live or tape delay. ASN just finished showing the Big 10 Championship and it was on live 320am with a few tape delay broadcasts 12hrs after the live airing so up to you if you want to stay up late or sleep in.
Some other Skycable channels might carry a few games, ESPN ch31 (Asian ESPN not American version) , Balls TV ch34, Basketball TV ch33.
I do not think bars in Cebu will be open all night just to air NCAA games live. Maybe Badgers or Sports Exchange would have a few tape delay games on the next day after it was live but that's just a guess.
[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1256936]All Sports Network (ASN) Skycable channel 69 will show some games. Not sure which games or if they will be live or tape delay. ASN just finished showing the Big 10 Championship and it was on live 320am with a few tape delay broadcasts 12hrs after the live airing so up to you if you want to stay up late or sleep in.
Some other Skycable channels might carry a few games, ESPN ch31 (Asian ESPN not American version) , Balls TV ch34, Basketball TV ch33.
I do not think bars in Cebu will be open all night just to air NCAA games live. Maybe Badgers or Sports Exchange would have a few tape delay games on the next day after it was live but that's just a guess.[/QUOTE]Think you not been in cebu for a long time stroker, both places have been closed badgers for nearly a yr and sports exchange about 4/5 months ago, maybe emerald irish or urban cellers out talmban way or the old silver doller or lone star
[QUOTE=Paulr1950;1256938]Think you not been in cebu for a long time stroker, both places have been closed badgers for nearly a yr and sports exchange about 4/5 months ago, maybe emerald irish or urban cellers out talmban way or the old silver doller or lone star[/QUOTE]I never visited Badgers Sports bar but I knew of it and wasn't aware it closed. I googled it and you are right, I see it closed February 2011.
Next Sports Exchange I ate there in January and it was open that time so your info about it closing 4-5months ago is incorrect. I know the owner and the bar was under water for some time. After contacting him via facebook you are right, closed January 20th. Sucks, the place had above average western food and very nice decor but with the 3rd floor out of the way location and no windows it was alot to overcome.
Silver Dollar is now called Mavericks bar, after Carl sold out to Graham.
So Levdog you are SOL if you want to watch the games at a bar in Cebu, best to find someone with Skycable.
Thanks for the info. I was a fan of the sports exchange also. I ate there right before it closed in mid January. I was sorry to see it go. I will look for an establishment that carries Skycable. If anybody knows a place which carries Skycable and is open after midnight please let me know.
Is there any place like Manila Bay Cafe (formerly LA Cafe) in Cebu? I have been to LA Cafe twice and enjoyed it, but never been to Cebu. I am flying into Manila, then need to head to Cebu to catch a bus / boat, and am trying to decide whether to stay over in Manila or Cebu before going diving.
[QUOTE=Spivey24;1257097]Is there any place like Manila Bay Cafe (formerly LA Cafe) in Cebu? I have been to LA Cafe twice and enjoyed it, but never been to Cebu. I am flying into Manila, then need to head to Cebu to catch a bus / boat, and am trying to decide whether to stay over in Manila or Cebu before going diving.[/QUOTE]Spivey, the closest you are likely to find in Cebu is Julianna's in Mango Square. Many past references in the 'old' Cebu Forum.
[QUOTE=Questor55;1257141]Spivey, the closest you are likely to find in Cebu is Julianna's in Mango Square. Many past references in the 'old' Cebu Forum.[/QUOTE]Thanks, but can't seem to find the 'old' cebu forum. Not much history in this forum.
Frenzy-buddy and all other Cebu pervs out there that I hoped and planned to see: Barba's sincere apologies and regrets for not getting out of my love juice swamp in Davao and flying my sorry ass over to the promised land of easy punani. Next time I WILL make it to Cebu. Thank you keeping the door open for this provincial adventurer and see you in some months.
All the best from Barba, also him lost in the Cebu forums.
[QUOTE=Spivey24;1257502]Thanks, but can't seem to find the 'old' cebu forum. Not much history in this forum.[/QUOTE]Hmm I am inclined to say RTFF but since you can't find the forum, I will in this case make an exception. So my half-assed attempt at showing you where the Cebu forum is located, perfectly matches your half-assed attempt to find it.
Just a few days ago there was a lengthy discussion and several links posted to the fully expanded Cebu forum. If you go to the first post on this thread you will find the link posted by Jackson to the Cebu forum. Either-or will get you to the same destination.
From your post history you have been around since 07, so you are no newbie and should know better. You lamented there is not much info posted here but sure-as-shit that was one of the topics covered. If you can't be bothered to read 16 posts back or roughly one full page of info then do not expect some of the more knowledgeable members here to bend over backwards to provide you with answers.
So to you sir, RTFF.
[QUOTE=Levdog;1256949]Thanks for the info. I was a fan of the sports exchange also. I ate there right before it closed in mid January. I was sorry to see it go. I will look for an establishment that carries Skycable. If anybody knows a place which carries Skycable and is open after midnight please let me know.[/QUOTE]Some of the games in round one will commence in the early morning but the games in subsequent rounds will start in prime time (7:30 AM local time).
That being said, Sandtrap opens early I think around 8:00 AM. There was an ownership change recently but I know they have Skycable. Their web page has expired.
Joker's Arms in Mandaue might open early as they had a Super Bowl party which was standing room only!
[url]http://www.jokersarms.com/index.php[/url]
Kiwi Lodge might show some games if you ask :
[url]http://www.kiwilodgecebu.com/barrestaurant.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Barba; 1257523]Frenzy-buddy and all other Cebu pervs out there that I hoped and planned to see: Barba's sincere apologies and regrets for not getting out of my love juice swamp in Davao and flying my sorry ass over to the promised land of easy punani. Next time I WILL make it to Cebu. Thank you keeping the door open for this provincial adventurer and see you in some months.
All the best from Barba, also him lost in the Cebu forums.[/QUOTE]I see you next time. I still be here
Frenzy3,
Thank You for that. Good info
Thanks Mattick for the info. I did check out sandtrap, you are right they do open early, but they said they don't have skycable. I will check out the other places you mentioned. Appreciate the feedback.
[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1257532]Just a few days ago there was a lengthy discussion and several links posted to the fully expanded Cebu forum. If you go to the first post on this thread you will find the link posted by Jackson to the Cebu forum. Either-or will get you to the same destination.
F.[/QUOTE]I can find both the new and old forums they just don't link together intuitively in my basic monger mind.
For instance, is it possible to get a link, in the same that there is a link to Dragon Slayer's Forum.
Also, for a visitor coming in through this page [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/forum.php[/url] They don't see the Cebu Forum.
My casual observation is that there are a lot less new posts in the new Cebu forum.
Probably there are limitations in "Powered by vBulletin® Version 4. 1.4 "
AJ
Westcoast1 has spoken frequently of his favourite hangout, the very sleazy go-go bar on Palaez, just north of the Cebu Century hotel. And the 500 peso LT barfine that goes with it.
Well, the bar is no more. Replaced with the concrete and steel skeleton of a new condo building.
Next thing, there will be a concerted police action to clear the scumminess for the locale to compliment the increase in quality which the condo will bring. While I was there, my pickup pointed out a police raid at one of the not-quite-so-sleazy bars arond the corner.
Too bad.
G
[QUOTE=Gangles; 1259003]Westcoast1 has spoken frequently of his favourite hangout, the very sleazy go-go bar on Palaez, just north of the Cebu Century hotel. And the 500 peso LT barfine that goes with it.
Well, the bar is no more. Replaced with the concrete and steel skeleton of a new condo building.
Next thing, there will be a concerted police action to clear the scumminess for the locale to compliment the increase in quality which the condo will bring. While I was there, my pickup pointed out a police raid at one of the not-quite-so-sleazy bars arond the corner.
Too bad.
G[/QUOTE]WC<- Sad face.
It begs the questions: How am I going to find the street-guy now? How will I get to the dorm girls he finds for p700 (200 for him. 500 for the girl)? How will the dorm girl tell me a sob story about how mean the street guy is, and ask me to cut him out of the equation next time? How will we cut him out, dropping the price to p600, a savings of 100 for me and an extra 100 for her? If I can't find her, how will she bring me other girls for 3-somes? If I can't find the girl or my 3-somes, how am I going to get laid by young nubiles? If I don't get laid by (lots of) young nubiles downtown Cebu: HOW THE H*LL WILL I GET ALL THOSE PICS?
Maybe its better to tear down that condo now, and put that sleazy bar back there. You don't want to upset the nature of the board, do 'ya?
I haven't confirmed yet, but somone told me the St. Moritz bikini bar is closed. What a shame. It was out of the way (near Ayala) and therefore had few customers and therefore the gals weren't always very lovely. But it was such a grand place. It obviously had been a really nice place when first built and it still had a type of old but quality atmosphere. I will miss it. Compared to that, I was in Maverick / SD the other day and it's a dump. Pieces of wood missing, the dance floor some type of linoleum that is worn thru.
Of course there is a new disco in the Mango complex. ALCOHOLOGY or something like that. Very nice, stropes, but very crowded on the weekend. I'm not sure if your could carry on a conversation in the place. Take pen and paper?
One of the big surprises is Pussycats. I'm not particularly fond of the waitress and mama, but there have been some nice girls there the last times I've visited in Jan and yesterday. In January I had already bought a girl a drink and damn if one of the waitresses came over and said,"that girl says she knows you". She was the finest gal in the bar and I'd never laid eyes on her before. A short conversation and. Well, she was a Tagged friend.
Holiday Plaza Htl. Love the convenient location and breakfast buffet, but I have to find a better place. It's getting pretty dumpy.
X
[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1259199]Maybe its better to tear down that condo now, and put that sleazy bar back there. You don't want to upset the nature of the board, do 'ya?[/QUOTE]The location may change but the game will stay the same. My guess is that another bar will move to take over market opportunity.
Guys,
A cute, sexy and very open-minded friend of mine has relocated to Cebu and looking for meet ups.
PM me if you are in Cebu, interested want details and photos.
Snow
[QUOTE=Levdog;1257940]Thanks Mattick for the info. I did check out sandtrap, you are right they do open early, but they said they don't have skycable. I will check out the other places you mentioned. Appreciate the feedback.[/QUOTE]Why not just watch online? I think they charge like 4 dollars and sign up for hide my net if you need to have USA ip address.
Coming to Cebu in a few days time. It's my first time in Cebu, but not the first time in the Philippines. I would appreciate advice from the more experienced mongers. The easy / quick way to get a girl for LT must be EWR from a bar. No time on this trip for daytime mall hunting and not confident of getting what I want from freelance. So, is it possible in Cebu to pay the bar the EWR only upfront and pay the girl her fee in the morning? That's what I've done in other places in the Philippines.
If everything is paid upfront before leaving the bar, how can I rely on good performance or the girl not doing a runner? If I pay in the morning then I've got more control of the situation.
Can anyone give good advice please? Thank you.
[QUOTE=Cats2; 1259764]Coming to Cebu in a few days time. It's my first time in Cebu, but not the first time in the Philippines. I would appreciate advice from the more experienced mongers. The easy / quick way to get a girl for LT must be EWR from a bar. No time on this trip for daytime mall hunting and not confident of getting what I want from freelance. So, is it possible in Cebu to pay the bar the EWR only upfront and pay the girl her fee in the morning? That's what I've done in other places in the Philippines.
If everything is paid upfront before leaving the bar, how can I rely on good performance or the girl not doing a runner? If I pay in the morning then I've got more control of the situation.
Can anyone give good advice please? Thank you.[/QUOTE]Since this will be your first time in a Cebu bar you will have to pay everything up front. The standard barfine rate is 1800p (1000p+800p all-in). Some bars charge 2800p (2000p for the girl and 800p to the bar) so ask the mamasan before deciding to take a girl. The prices increase at the KTV's and can be as high as 6000p+ at Arena. If you are a well known regular customer at some Mango bars the mamasans might give you the option to pay only the bar portion of the EWR barfine and pay the girl her portion in the room when she leaves. But that's only if they know and like you and other girls reported back to the mamsan that you treated the previous girls right.
How do you deal with runners or bad performance? Spend time in the bar with the girl and buy her a drink. Talk with her, tell her what you want and expect and watch closely for warning signals. Go with your gut feeling and not the hard on in your pants. If you think she will run or that she is just playing you, call another girl over and begin your search again. Of course there is no way to fully ensure good service or that she will not be a runner but talking with the girl and testing if there is chemistry beyond your wallet helps. YMMV.
[QUOTE=Cats2; 1259764]Coming to Cebu in a few days time. It's my first time in Cebu, but not the first time in the Philippines. I would appreciate advice from the more experienced mongers. The easy / quick way to get a girl for LT must be EWR from a bar. No time on this trip for daytime mall hunting and not confident of getting what I want from freelance. So, is it possible in Cebu to pay the bar the EWR only upfront and pay the girl her fee in the morning? That's what I've done in other places in the Philippines.
If everything is paid upfront before leaving the bar, how can I rely on good performance or the girl not doing a runner? If I pay in the morning then I've got more control of the situation.
Can anyone give good advice please? Thank you.[/QUOTE]Stick to the Vikings group of bars on Mango. P1800 as mentioned. Don't dick around, tell the mamasan exactly what you're looking for (and buy her a drink if she finds a girl for you). The girls from these 6 (or so) bars don't ask for a tip; 1800 is all in, up front, tip as you desire in the morning. Try Sisters bar there; smaller and intimate.
[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1260038]Try Sisters bar there; smaller and intimate.[/QUOTE]Maybe just me but I've had a number of runners from Sisters in recent years despite agreeing my requirements beforehand.
On one occasion I went back to the bar afterwards, not to get my moneyback but just to complain that the service was not as agreed. Unfortunately I got little sympathy and so it tends not to be my favorite bar these days although I think that its under new ownership now.
[QUOTE=Dark Vader; 1260181]Maybe just me but I've had a number of runners from Sisters in recent years despite agreeing my requirements beforehand.
On one occasion I went back to the bar afterwards, not to get my moneyback but just to complain that the service was not as agreed. Unfortunately I got little sympathy and so it tends not to be my favorite bar these days although I think that its under new ownership now.[/QUOTE]I too had a runner 2 years ago from Sisters (her full-facial pics posted in PG). When I was there in July, the new mama (not a bad-looking woman) told me she had cleaned the place up. She said: "You will not see one same girl from before. We replace every girl and also management. Many problems with runner and stealing. No more." I had been chatting a cutie, and pulled out my camera. I told her I would consider taking the girl, if I could get a pic of the mama and girl together, to post on the internet if the girl ran. The mama agreed. I didn't end up taking that girl for other reasons.
Anyone have an update on Sister's?
[QUOTE=Westcoast1; 1260196]I too had a runner 2 years ago from Sisters (her full-facial pics posted in PG). When I was there in July, the new mama (not a bad-looking woman) told me she had cleaned the place up. She said: "You will not see one same girl from before. We replace every girl and also management. Many problems with runner and stealing. No more." I had been chatting a cutie, and pulled out my camera. I told her I would consider taking the girl, if I could get a pic of the mama and girl together, to post on the internet if the girl ran. The mama agreed. I didn't end up taking that girl for other reasons.
Anyone have an update on Sister's?[/QUOTE]Sister's is a place to have a SML and chill, as others have mentioned runner's a plenty in there. I have not visited recently so no idea if the new mamasan has indeed cleaned things up and changed the focus from a 'get all the money you can out of the foreigner' mentality to one dealing with better customer service. Some bars have such a backward mindset. If a guy has a good time and is provided with good service, that customer will come back again and again and tell everyone they know to visit. When girls run and the mamasans don't give a shit the customers do not repeat.
Westcoast posted good info, stick with the Viking group of bars. I would even suggest Amigo's located next to Red Lips as an alternative. Not sure if the French owner sold the bar yet but he is a good guy and ran a tight ship.
I would not bar fine from Lone Star or the new Mavericks. Lone Star has a great setup and it's a good place to sit back and enjoy a few SML's and watch the girls dance but I do not like the mamasans they have. They look out for the girls and don't give a shit about the customers. They have lied to my face in the past and told me "sure that girl no have period, she ok" when they knew auntflo was in town. Graham seems like a nice guy but never once comped me a single SML after visiting a few times a week for a month and each time I racked up 2-3000p drink tabs. But whateva', now I spend my time and money elsewhere.
[QUOTE=Snow Koala; 1259292]Guys,
A cute, sexy and very open-minded friend of mine has relocated to Cebu and looking for meet ups.
PM me if you are in Cebu, interested want details and photos.
Snow[/QUOTE]Seems to me this is a scam.
I PM you and you provide nothing.
[QUOTE=Prison Break; 1260925]Seems to me this is a scam.
I PM you and you provide nothing.[/QUOTE]I spoke to her about you and she did not like your attitude. Like I said to you, You can forget about it.
I don't find Sisters such a good place to chill. I would have expected Tina, (the hefty Mamasan that looks somewhat male neaderthal) to get Sisters back on track, but I had an awful time there. I had just arrived, was tired, just wanted to have a beer and relax a bit. But, as usual, they come at you in pairs and start touching you from behind before introducing themselves. In fact, the waitress was asking if I wanted to buy drinks even before I knew their names. Ummm,"no". I told them I was tired and just wanted to watch the show and then the angry faces and the "stuck up" whispered as they walk away. I almost immediately wished I was back in AC, where I had flown from. I finished my beer and left, never to return.
As for Viking bars, I wish they would get more than one gal up on stage at a time. On weekends they might have two or three. Coming from AC where you sometimes get dozens of gals on stage, it's a bit disappointing.
Why do you have to sign for every damn thing in Cebu? It get's annoying after a while. I think every bar does it. In Ac they just but the tab in your cup and you can look at it. No big deal.
In summary, I had only three women in Cebu and none who currently work the bars. One from DIA, one that I met at Silver Dollar a while back who is always good for an afternoon short time, and one the younger half-sis of a bargirl I fkd last year. This one was the real gem, super cute and petite, with full on GFE, but she turned out to have a dark side.
I will elaborate if I have time and if there is interest. X.
X
[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1260414]Sister's is a place to have a SML and chill, as others have mentioned runner's a plenty in there. I have not visited recently so no idea if the new mamasan has indeed cleaned things up and changed the focus from a 'get all the money you can out of the foreigner' mentality to one dealing with better customer service.
SNIP.[/QUOTE]
What attitude? She doesn't know anything about me.
What bulshit excuse is that? Who is this guy?
[QUOTE=Prison Break; 1260925]Seems to me this is a scam.
I PM you and you provide nothing.[/QUOTE]Your past posts have all been asking guys to fix you up or complaining about how much other guys paid or about tipping. Your koripot attitude won't get you very far.
I pay the right price because I know it.
Most of the guys overpay because it makes them feel better but they have no clue about the right prices here.
[QUOTE=David_33;1261485]Your past posts have all been asking guys to fix you up or complaining about how much other guys paid or about tipping. Your koripot attitude won't get you very far.[/QUOTE]Yikes what a train-wreck post history that's full of air. Good example of a guy who demands everything and gives back little.
SnowK,
You are wise to screen guys carefully. Just know that even if your cute friend approves a guy chances are you will be blamed if the guy turns out to be a jerk.
[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1261492]Yikes what a train-wreck post history that's full of air. Good example of a guy who demands everything and gives back little.
SnowK,
You are wise to screen guys carefully. Just know that even if your cute friend approves a guy chances are you will be blamed if the guy turns out to be a jerk.[/QUOTE]Stoker,
Thanks, she can look after herself. I have given her number out to a couple of guys, she has been to Cebu malls and I told her to go to Julianas on Fri / Sat night. I will talk to her tomorrow and if she has not got any hook ups yet, I ask her if I should can put a photo on here.
She is very open-minded and loves to lick pussy, so if you already have a girl and you are looking for a 3rd, she will be happy to join.
Snow
[QUOTE=X Man;1261482]I will elaborate if I have time and if there is interest.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I'd definitely be interested. I too have just got back from Cebu and spent four nights going to the bars. I didn't get round to going to Sisters though for some reason (wasn't too impressed two years ago). I barfined from BG's, Viking and Erik the Red but I was also impressed by Planet X, Lone Star, Pussycat and Red Lips. I didn't bother with the other high-price bars next to Pussycats.
I agree it's annoying that there are so few actually dancing and most of the girls are sat in the shadows. It can work quiet well though if you work out the best place to sit when you arrive at a bar, near the non-dancing girls (I scored a stunner, one of the girls of my trip, at Viking in this way). Pressure for lady-drinks seems to be minimal except for Planet X where once again I got swarmed by girls and a waitress would appear within 3 nanoseconds asking if I would like to buy them all a drink.
I asked a number of questions on this forum a couple of months ago so I will post a full report with photos soon, to thank everyone for their help.
[QUOTE=Prison Break; 1261487]I pay the right price because I know it.
Most of the guys overpay because it makes them feel better but they have no clue about the right prices here.[/QUOTE]Do not help this guy, I met this snake prison break and he hit up on my GFS, they asked me why I knew the creep.
[QUOTE=Snow Koala;1261481]I spoke to her about you and she did not like your attitude. Like I said to you, You can forget about it.[/QUOTE]Haha. Prison Break got the block from my account because of his attitude too. Suggest you set his profile to ignore too.
No problems for sad faced WC.
I have found the pimp, Richard, exactly where he should be, hanging out at the convenience store on Palaez. And he brought Shiela (pronounced Shella) to me. I had already hitched up with Miss K, SW girl, so I did not need Shiela's services. But I paid her ST fine and we went to have something to eat in McDo, while I talked with her.
I think that she had not eaten for a while, as she was totally focussed on eating, until the food was gone.
She gave me her number, and said she is happy for me to give guys her contact details. But I have texted her, with no reply. So who knows what has happened. But she is still contactable through Richard. She says that she works out at a gym regularly, and she did seem to have a real hard body. No kids. WC says she has decent tits.
So gentlemen, all is not lost.
G.
[QUOTE=Westcoast1; 1259199]WC<- Sad face.
It begs the questions: How am I going to find the street-guy now? How will I get to the dorm girls he finds for p700 (200 for him. 500 for the girl)? How will the dorm girl tell me a sob story about how mean the street guy is, and ask me to cut him out of the equation next time? How will we cut him out, dropping the price to p600, a savings of 100 for me and an extra 100 for her? If I can't find her, how will she bring me other girls for 3-somes? If I can't find the girl or my 3-somes, how am I going to get laid by young nubiles? If I don't get laid by (lots of) young nubiles downtown Cebu: HOW THE H*LL WILL I GET ALL THOSE PICS?
Maybe its better to tear down that condo now, and put that sleazy bar back there. You don't want to upset the nature of the board, do 'ya?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Gangles; 1262469]She gave me her number, and said she is happy for me to give guys her contact details. But I have texted her, with no reply. So who knows what has happened. But she is still contactable through Richard. She says that she works out at a gym regularly, and she did seem to have a real hard body. No kids. WC says she has decent tits.
So gentlemen, all is not lost.
G.[/QUOTE]G: Tried to PM you, but your inbox is full.
[QUOTE=Frenzy3;1262433]Do not help this guy, I met this snake prison break and he hit up on my GFS, they asked me why I knew the creep.[/QUOTE]Oh yeah your lesbian gfs you show to everybody pretending you are a playboy.
Well you can always fool people who didn't meet you frenzy.
You are the one who told me help yourself so stop your bulshit would you?
You were just scared I got them because I m more handsome than you.
[QUOTE=Prison Break; 1262613]Oh yeah your lesbian gfs you show to everybody pretending you are a playboy.
Well you can always fool people who didn't meet you frenzy.
You are the one who told me help yourself so stop your bulshit would you?
You were just scared I got them because I m more handsome than you.[/QUOTE]As a rule I do not pay any attention to newbies and members with low post counts. Alot turn out to be useless ignorant losers with no respect and no manners. I like to think a members contributions over time shape who and what that person is all about, and one can generally get a good idea if another senior member is the type of guy you want to get to know and meet based on his contributions or lack thereof.
In the past I would go out of my way to help newbies and write long PM's full of advice, but no more.
I had one guy ask me a billion and one questions before his cherry trip and I answered most of them. I was in Cebu at the time and he was scheduled to arrive in a few weeks. He told me all kinds of bola that he was so grateful for the advice and he would pay for drinks and dinner when he arrives in Cebu. Whatever, I am not looking for freebies but agreed to meet. We meet and go out for a few drinks and I bought a few rounds. The guy never offered to buy me a drink and then tried to get his barfine put on my tab. When I told him to get lost he had the nerve to ask if he could borrow a few thousand pesos. I paid for my drinks and walked out on the worthless sack of donuts.
PB,
You sir are a worthless sack of donuts IMO. I met Frenzy and I was introduced to his GF's and warmly welcomed into his home. Never once did he tell me "help yourself" or anything close to that. Frenzy is a standup kind of guy and a senior member in good standing who contributes alot to ISG. You have contributed zero, nadda ziltch and just like those donuts your story is full of holes.
How did you know I love donuts? You are so smart.
[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1262663]As a rule I do not pay any attention to newbies and members with low post counts. Alot turn out to be useless ignorant losers with no respect and no manners. I like to think a members contributions over time shape who and what that person is all about, and one can generally get a good idea if another senior member is the type of guy you want to get to know and meet based on his contributions or lack thereof.[/QUOTE]Thanks for that post Stroker. You've just confirmed every bias I have against meeting those who send me PMs but who have never contributed a single substantive post. I've met a few really upstanding guys from this board, and they're all people whose posts I have read and enjoyed over the years. Conversely, I've made the mistake once or twice of meeting people who were new to the Philippines, and whom I thought I could help. It did not usually turn out well, and for that reason I now avoid such contact.
I've never met Frenzy, but I have friends who have enjoyed his company. I hope he can merely ignore the mindless, and snytatically questionable post.
GE
I PM'd Frenzy3 after he posted his photos warning that they would attract a lot of ISG riff raff and to take care who he met up with. I'm sure that Prison Break is only one in a long line of undesirables who will hope to hustle some of Frenzy3's cuties. If Frenzy had read back on this guy´s previous posts he would have been warned off.
Guys, can we all agree NOT to give this loser any more forum space. Too often worthless time wasters are given attention. Let's just deep freeze him, okay?
I met Frenzy3 (and his GFs) about a month ago and he was very gracious to me. I doubt he has much to worry about from PB "taking" his girlfriends away from him but people like him could make Frenzy wary about meeting board members as he has done in the past. That would be too bad.
[QUOTE=GoodEnough; 1262752]Thanks for that post Stroker. You've just confirmed every bias I have against meeting those who send me PMs but who have never contributed a single substantive post. I've met a few really upstanding guys from this board, and they're all people whose posts I have read and enjoyed over the years. Conversely, I've made the mistake once or twice of meeting people who were new to the Philippines, and whom I thought I could help. It did not usually turn out well, and for that reason I now avoid such contact.
I've never met Frenzy, but I have friends who have enjoyed his company. I hope he can merely ignore the mindless, and snytatically questionable post.
GE[/QUOTE]GE,
Yes sadly I agree it's the newbies that have caused me the most problems. They want me to hold there hands, or want me to find them p*ssy and dates.
When the girls they lined up before there visit do not sleep with them or they come to the realization that the Philippines is not to there liking for whatever reason invariably it's somehow my fault. Forgetaboutit!
[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1262957]GE,
Yes sadly I agree it's the newbies that have caused me the most problems. They want me to hold there hands, or want me to find them p*ssy and dates.
When the girls they lined up before there visit do not sleep with them or they come to the realization that the Philippines is not to there liking for whatever reason invariably it's somehow my fault. Forgetaboutit![/QUOTE]I can understand new guys asking questions here because I was once new also. The search fuction here sucks. I still don't use it. Hey lets get to work on that ha?
New guys don't be so lazy. If you need someone to hold your hand all the way until you have a filipina pussy looking back at your face then you have serious social problems. Ask alot of questions on the board but also report back regularly on your findings. Like hotel information and prices, flight info, on the ground street reports, your mistakes made once you get there and most of all post some fukin photos. Stuff like that. Many new guys pop up, ask a few dumb questions, get shot down by a veteran member and then lash back and disapear. There are also a hand full of veteran members who like to stroke themselvs while everyone watches so I guess there are dipshits on either end of the spectrum.
[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88;1262957]. for whatever reason invariably it's somehow my fault. Forgetaboutit![/QUOTE]You just must try harder, Stroker, or they may stop calling on you. Shame, shame, eh?
[QUOTE=Tally Wacker;1262968]If you need someone to hold your hand all the way until you have a filipina pussy looking back at your face then you have serious social problems.[/QUOTE]Since I will be arriving in Cebu in somewhat more than a week from now, I started checking out the dating sites a couple of weeks ago. Even though I am an old, fat, bald and ugly guy with no game, I still have more than 15 cuties who want to meet me when I arrive.
Its really unbelievable that there are all these desperate guys like the ones Frenzy has to deal with, begging to be fixed up. I was I think, the first guy from the forum to actually meet Frenzy and his girls. It was clear from the start that they were "private property" in a matter of speaking. I think that Frenzy has a sadistic streak which manifests itself in his "out of bounds super cutie" photo posting.
[QUOTE=David_33; 1263165]Since I will be arriving in Cebu in somewhat more than a week from now, I started checking out the dating sites a couple of weeks ago. Even though I am an old, fat, bald and ugly guy with no game, I still have more than 15 cuties who want to meet me when I arrive.
Its really unbelievable that there are all these desperate guys like the ones Frenzy has to deal with, begging to be fixed up. I was I think, the first guy from the forum to actually meet Frenzy and his girls. It was clear from the start that they were "private property" in a matter of speaking. I think that Frenzy has a sadistic streak which manifests itself in his "out of bounds super cutie" photo posting.[/QUOTE]Hope you meet lots of girls and hope all will open their legs for you. Good luck!
While it is not difficult for anybody ugly or handsome, young or old, poor or rich not everybody has the right attitude to make the girls interested. These are not P4P girls so it takes certain kind of charm to start talking in general to get into sexual aspect. Girls play games also. Initially they come across as good church going girls even if they have met and fucked many. So you need to play the same game and put your foot down. Most of us are not into finding a girl to marry. We just want sex and ofcourse willing to take care of the girl monetarily.
By being blunt you may loose many contacts but there are always few who will agree. Nowadays most of the girls know the score. They have learned most foreigners do not committ and only wants sex. So they have learned to make money and get gifts out of the situation. Remember these are poor girls in an overcrowded country with little or no honest living opportunities. Just yesterday I was chatting with a girl who said her aunt and her cousin have a foreign bf and encouraged her to join chatting sites. This girl knew the score and immediately agreed to stay with me and have sex.
I am sure there are some desparate people who look at the pics posted by members and find out why they are not successfull in getting pretty girls. So they want somebody's help. They maybe lacking in communication skills or just lazy. Not all guys can get real pretty young nice girls. Ofcourse those willing to share will only share the ones they consider not worth keeping. Nobody will share details of the ones they plan to keep for a long time.
Hello all! This is my second post ever. But I'm not new to what is going on in the Philippines. I have chated hundreds of girls from a few site such as tag and cherryblossoms, and pinalove. Pinalove is good for guys who want to set up ahead of time to have someone waiting them when they travel / tour island to island. It is free and not need to pay to send messages. I read what Sammon was saying about the girls. I agree with him. What I am going to say now you will think I am stupid but try my logic. Hahahah.
I have a "gf" that I have been chating for 4 months now. She lives with her female best friend plus two female cousins. They all range in age 19 to 24. The two eldest have one kid each age 4. The others are student / mall employee. Ok. All four girls want to make me happy in bed and out. I plan to arrrive there first of May. Cebu. I will stay in their place. Enjoy the 2 to 4 some every night. THE PRICE. I set them up with a sari sari store. I wanted them to be self sufficient. Not ask me for money every month. Waiting my arrival. So I invested $300.
They are selling rice, water, BBQ, phone cards. Sun / globe + charcoal + wood plus plus. The point being they not ask me anything now. They take their profit.restock and then pay their expenses to live. Ok! You think I am stupid to advance. Yes, I am making a gamble. But you know! What would we do with that $300. 3 star hotel cost us 2000 pesos a night.
Pay to fuck is what $20 to 30 minimum per night? Look how fast we spend $300 here at home! My friend pays $100 to fuck in China per night.
My point is the girls "love me" that I help them stand on their own feet, put the two babies in kindergaten, the woman are happy, productive and they say, they appreciate me and they are very eager to show how much when I arrive. So that is my investment to have romance, sex, care waiting me. Yes, I know we should not send money to girl on the net but after a time. Chating, cam. We do what we do. One more point. They are setting aside 25% of the profits as my share and will give me when I arrive.
My last point. If we show some true interest in them. Their situation. The girl most likely will do all you want. She does not want to loose you. I don't want to support a girl or a few girls all the time. I not want to pay and pay for their foods, or clothes or school. So this is how I solved it for the long term because I plan to keep returning to these sweet sexy girls.
If they ask me for something I say, use some of your profit."ask" the shop for money" hahahahahaha. Not me. If you plan just a sex tour then my way is not for you. I just suggest for the guy who visits often and can be happy with his own small group of sex young woman. Good luck to all in your search.
@MangoBob68.
Sounds like a plan, please keep us posted with the outcome.
[QUOTE=MangoBob68; 1263327]Hello, all! This is my second post ever. But I'm not new to what is going on in the Philippines. I have chated hundreds of girls from a few site such as tag and cherryblossoms, and pinalove. Pinalove is good for guys who want to set up ahead of time to have someone waiting them when they travel / tour island to island. It is free and not need to pay to send messages. I read what Sammon was saying about the girls. I agree with him. What I am going to say now you will think I am stupid but try my logic. Hahahah.
I have a "gf" that I have been chating for 4 months now. She lives with her female best friend plus two female cousins. They all range in age 19 to 24. The two eldest have one kid each age 4. The others are student / mall employee. Ok. All four girls want to make me happy in bed and out. I plan to arrrive there first of May. Cebu. I will stay in their place. Enjoy the 2 to 4 some every night. THE PRICE. I set them up with a sari sari store. I wanted them to be self sufficient. Not ask me for money every month. Waiting my arrival. So I invested $300.
[SNIP]If they ask me for something I say, use some of your profit."ask" the shop for money" hahahahahaha. Not me. If you plan just a sex tour then my way is not for you. I just suggest for the guy who visits often and can be happy with his own small group of sex young woman. Good luck to all in your search.[/QUOTE]You left out one important piece of info, is this your first trip to the Philippines?
Sending money in advance of your trip to someone you have never met is risky at best. You should take what's said in chat with a grain of salt when she insists they will cater to your every sexual desire. Sometimes its real but alot of times it bola. YMMV.
Hope things for you do not end up like one guy at NAIA a few months back. He went bananas when his online GF didn't show up to meet him and he realized she scammed him. Guy was crushed.
[QUOTE=MangoBob68; 1263327]Hello, all! This is my second post ever. But I'm not new to what is going on in the Philippines. I have chated hundreds of girls from a few site such as tag and cherryblossoms, and pinalove. Pinalove is good for guys who want to set up ahead of time to have someone waiting them when they travel / tour island to island. It is free and not need to pay to send messages. I read what Sammon was saying about the girls. I agree with him. What I am going to say now you will think I am stupid but try my logic. Hahahah.
I have a "gf" that I have been chating for 4 months now. She lives with her female best friend plus two female cousins. They all range in age 19 to 24. The two eldest have one kid each age 4. The others are student / mall employee. Ok. All four girls want to make me happy in bed and out. I plan to arrrive there first of May. Cebu. I will stay in their place. Enjoy the 2 to 4 some every night. THE PRICE. I set them up with a sari sari store. I wanted them to be self sufficient. Not ask me for money every month. Waiting my arrival. So I invested $300.
They are selling rice, water, BBQ, phone cards. Sun / globe + charcoal + wood plus plus. The point being they not ask me anything now. They take their profit. Restock and then pay their expenses to live. Ok! You think I am stupid to advance. Yes, I am making a gamble. But you know! What would we do with that $300. 3 star hotel cost us 2000 pesos a night.
Pay to fuck is what $20 to 30 minimum per night? Look how fast we spend $300 here at home! My friend pays $100 to fuck in China per night.
My point is the girls "love me" that I help them stand on their own feet, put the two babies in kindergaten, the woman are happy, productive and they say, they appreciate me and they are very eager to show how much when I arrive. So that is my investment to have romance, sex, care waiting me. Yes, I know we should not send money to girl on the net but after a time. Chating, cam. We do what we do. One more point. They are setting aside 25% of the profits as my share and will give me when I arrive.
My last point. If we show some true interest in them. Their situation. The girl most likely will do all you want. She does not want to loose you. I don't want to support a girl or a few girls all the time. I not want to pay and pay for their foods, or clothes or school. So this is how I solved it for the long term because I plan to keep returning to these sweet sexy girls.
If they ask me for something I say, use some of your profit."ask" the shop for money" hahahahahaha. Not me. If you plan just a sex tour then my way is not for you. I just suggest for the guy who visits often and can be happy with his own small group of sex young woman. Good luck to all in your search.[/QUOTE]Unless you have left out PLENTY of details to keep it short all I am going to say to you is LOL. $300 is 12 000 peso more or less. If you think that is sufficient to start a sari sari store you have rocks in your head.
[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1263372]. .
Hope things for you do not end up like one guy at NAIA a few months back. He went bananas when his online GF didn't show up to meet him and he realized she scammed him. Guy was crushed.[/QUOTE]Stroker has already alerted you (MangoBob) to the possibility that things in the real world may NOT turn out to be as they seem via the internet but for your sake I hope it is all as good as it seems.
I truly hope it turns out to be fantastic for you, but my caution to you would be to watch out for jealous pinoys on the sidelines. Our friend Frenzy has managed to beat this potential "problem" but you might walk into it unwittingly.
I would be most concerned about the possibility that out of the 4 women who live together that at least one if not more has a boyfriend (or an ex-husband) hanging around somewhere and I would also guess that if they are all attractive then there will be a few "suitors" around also who may not feel well-disposed towards the foreigner who swans in with a fistful of dollars to woo all 4 hearts both in the bed and outside of it.
Just be wary of that possibility.
Hi any guys coming next week, that ayala will be closed those 2 days, I am not sure about other malls or IT PARK yet I will try and find out, this is in cebu
[QUOTE=MangoBob68; 1263327]Hello, all! This is my second post ever. But I'm not new to what is going on in the Philippines. I have chated hundreds of girls from a few site such as tag and cherryblossoms, and pinalove. Pinalove is good for guys who want to set up ahead of time to have someone waiting them when they travel / tour island to island. It is free and not need to pay to send messages. I read what Sammon was saying about the girls. I agree with him. What I am going to say now you will think I am stupid but try my logic. Hahahah.
I have a "gf" that I have been chating for 4 months now. She lives with her female best friend plus two female cousins. They all range in age 19 to 24. The two eldest have one kid each age 4. The others are student / mall employee. Ok. All four girls want to make me happy in bed and out. I plan to arrrive there first of May. Cebu. I will stay in their place. Enjoy the 2 to 4 some every night. THE PRICE. I set them up with a sari sari store. I wanted them to be self sufficient. Not ask me for money every month. Waiting my arrival. So I invested $300.
They are selling rice, water, BBQ, phone cards. Sun / globe + charcoal + wood plus plus. The point being they not ask me anything now. They take their profit. Restock and then pay their expenses to live. Ok! You think I am stupid to advance. Yes, I am making a gamble. But you know! What would we do with that $300. 3 star hotel cost us 2000 pesos a night.
Pay to fuck is what $20 to 30 minimum per night? Look how fast we spend $300 here at home! My friend pays $100 to fuck in China per night.
My point is the girls "love me" that I help them stand on their own feet, put the two babies in kindergaten, the woman are happy, productive and they say, they appreciate me and they are very eager to show how much when I arrive. So that is my investment to have romance, sex, care waiting me. Yes, I know we should not send money to girl on the net but after a time. Chating, cam. We do what we do. One more point. They are setting aside 25% of the profits as my share and will give me when I arrive.
My last point. If we show some true interest in them. Their situation. The girl most likely will do all you want. She does not want to loose you. I don't want to support a girl or a few girls all the time. I not want to pay and pay for their foods, or clothes or school. So this is how I solved it for the long term because I plan to keep returning to these sweet sexy girls.
If they ask me for something I say, use some of your profit."ask" the shop for money" hahahahahaha. Not me. If you plan just a sex tour then my way is not for you. I just suggest for the guy who visits often and can be happy with his own small group of sex young woman. Good luck to all in your search.[/QUOTE]All I want to ask you is, have you already made a trip and fucked all these willing foursome? Have you stayed in their place? Are they friendly as to fuck whever you want and with whoever you want?
Or is it just on the planning and building castles in the air Phase?
A well stocked sari sari store costs around 20, 000 pesos in a decent location. In a poor section it is possible to open one with 12, 000 pesos. Most sari sari store owners sleep and live in the store itself because of robberies. Ever see a sari sari store with steel frames all around? Do not expect them to give you a share of their profits. If you ask there will always be a sad story.
Let me tell you one thing. Many girls I have dated and chatted wanted to start business with my help. One gf I gave 20, 000 pesos to open a farm store selling anything from fertilizer to feed. She ran it well for a year and slacked off and lost everything. During that year I did not have to support her her with any money. She had lots of excuses why business failed. Anything from she gave things on credit who failed to pay to supply problems.
Last I heard is she is conning a Korean guy who promised to open a sari sari store for her. Pretty girl from Southern leyte.
Yes, it is cheaper to have sex with non pro girlfriends. I usually have 3-4 girls staying with me during my visit, ofcourse not at the same time. Never stayed in their place anytime. One soon to be nurse wanted me to stay with her in quezon city. After looking at her place which is pretty basic with no air con decided better stay in the hotel. She suggested to get her a air con which will cost the same as staying in a hotel for few nights. I declined because I prefer hotels. All my girlfriends have taken care of me sexually very well, so no complaints. I am not missing anything compared to bargirl with their attitudes etc. Only problem is after few visits I loose interest with the same women and always want new conquests.
I do the same thing nowadays. I have not had sex with a P4P girl for a long time.
[QUOTE=Paulr1950;1263488]Hi any guys coming next week, that ayala will be closed those 2 days, I am not sure about other malls or IT PARK yet I will try and find out, this is in cebu[/QUOTE]Thanks for the heads up on that. I plan to be in town the end of next week. Do you know if the other malls will be closed as well?
Hello, gentlemen, special thanks to Sammon, Red kilt, Frenchman, Storker Ace 88 and Mc Don for your comments. I appreciate your views.
No, this is not my first trip more like my 30th. Lost count since first coming to the Philippines starting back in 1995. Yes, I know all the scams and excuses about asking money. I know these girls not really "love me" but I hope I am treated well and make me happy. If not. Move on to the next!
About the sari sari store. It it in neighborhood in lapu lapu. It is part of their home (two cement house enclosed with fence and iron gate). One can put any kind of money into starting a sari sari store. I gave these girls enough to buy foods for themselves and basic needs. Not go shopping at the mall.
The "leader" who I talk to every day. Says I will be so proud of them when I see their "place" I don't have any high expectations. If they are cheating me. My stupid loss of 300 to 400 dollars. I have a list of phone numbers of many other girls willing to meet me in cebu and a few other places if my investment falls flat.
BUT yes, you guys make a great point to be careful of the pinoys hanging around. Yeah. These girls are good lookers and yes, I am sure guys checking them out all the time wanting to play. And yes, here comes me moving in with these viva hot babes!. Can be risky. I am thinking very careful of that. If I not feel safe I'll stay in the hotel or split the time. Anyway you are right.
The two girls with kids said their bf left them when they got pregnant 4 years ago and claim no one since them. But I not believe it. Second the other two say they were dumped by their cheating pinoy bf and they not want pinoy anymore. Yes. I not totally believe that as well.
So I will first arrive in manila May 3. I stay in malate. I like the orchid garden suites hotel on ocampo and harrison. Been staying there every visit since 2005.
I use to teach English in China from 2005-2009 and take my vacations in the Philippines.
I spend most my time in bacolod at the palmas del mar hotel. I really recommend this place. Check their website. The rooms are reasonable and the grounds with 3 pool and two jacuzzis are great.
I used cherryblossom to find "dates" in bacolod before I arrive. Last post I mentioned a few sites. One I forgot to add is date in asia. You can send free messages to girls without paying for membership.
I don't claim to be smart in all my actions. I have made many mistakes but I like to share one "sick" think I did but at the time I thought I was being clever. Hahahaha.
There were 3 girls who all claimed they "loved me" and cannot wait to meet me and do all for me. I wanted to find which one is the most truthful.
All three girls knew when I was coming and how long I stay- but what I do is give each girl 7 to 10 days different of my arrival. I tell girl #1 I arrive may 1, girl #2 arrive may 10 and girl #3 arrive may 20. That way they feel special being the first and only girl I am meeting. Yeah! I am bad. Moving on to my story.
I met these girls in cherryblossoms. So what I did to test their sincerity. I created a fake profile fake photos, called my self Josh a younger and more handsome guy than the real me. Hahahaha- and wrote these girls.and flirted with them. Saying I would come a few days in advance of the real me. And staying longer than the real me. I asked them if they would stay with me during my visit. They all said yes. I asked if they had anyone serious. They all said NO! I asked if they were planning to meet anyone else. They all said NO! I asked what if a chatmate arrived and wanted to meet you what you say, they say I found my man. I am busy!
So all three girls who professed their love and faithfulness and only meet me were just lying. Hahahahahahah.
So what did I learn."Early cock catches the pussy"
I cannot blame them. I just smile and shake my head. These girls are so desperate for the first "nice" guy to come along and take care of them. Crazy
Hope I not bore you.
Bottom line. I will report the results of my May visit. If I failed I tell you and if I ended up in heaven I share that. Add photos of the girls.
One last thing. I am 68 zero love life while back here at home. So lets see what happens this trip. Having 4 sexy babes at one time is a lottery winning dream for a LOLO guy like me. One last note. I am saving up my monthly allotment of viagra. Ahahahahah I think I will need it this trip.
Take care gentleman. Salamat for all your advice.
[QUOTE=Mc Don;1263387]Unless you have left out PLENTY of details to keep it short all I am going to say to you is LOL. $300 is 12 000 peso more or less. If you think that is sufficient to start a sari sari store you have rocks in your head.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1263412]Stroker has already alerted you (MangoBob) to the possibility that things in the real world may NOT turn out to be as they seem via the internet but for your sake I hope it is all as good as it seems.
I truly hope it turns out to be fantastic for you, but my caution to you would be to watch out for jealous pinoys on the sidelines. Our friend Frenzy has managed to beat this potential "problem" but you might walk into it unwittingly.
I would be most concerned about the possibility that out of the 4 women who live together that at least one if not more has a boyfriend (or an ex-husband) hanging around somewhere and I would also guess that if they are all attractive then there will be a few "suitors" around also who may not feel well-disposed towards the foreigner who swans in with a fistful of dollars to woo all 4 hearts both in the bed and outside of it.
Just be wary of that possibility.[/QUOTE]Mangobob68,
Some good advice provided, you should think twice about staying with them. You lose all control of the situation when you are in there house and you present yourself as an east target to local BF's who will not be very pleased you have moved in on there turf.
If you are a kuripot traveller and you are staying with the women to avoid having to pay a hotel 2-3000p+ a night IMO it will cost you MORE in the long run to stay with them. Request for rice and food shopping and bill payments will be coming your way and if you refuse to pay for expenses they will kick your ass out that's for sure. If they want to teach your kuripot ass a lesson they might pull a scam on you to lighten the load on your wallet. It will be four local women versus the word of one foreigner. Good luck with that one buddy.
Sammon. I just wanted to say I really admire you technique acquiring 10 woman in one week. In the past I was lucky to get 3 not for pay woman on a 21 days visa! Hahaha.
For a guy age 68 as me. I try looking for separated woman. I am not wanting to marry. Plus there are many nice cute girls with a child who where dumped by their bf who are looking for sincere guy. Once these girls have a kid. It is near impossible for them to get a husband. But easy to get a boyfriend who will most likely "knock" them up again and leave him.
This may surprise a lot of us foreign vistors but a lot of these girls wish they had the money for abortion. Not go to term after their husband or bf left them.
I have been told a student can pay 3000 pesos for abortion. NOT hospital but by a midwife. Risky but I hear many do it.
I use to be a peace corp volunteer and retired teacher. So part of me wants to help some of the girls I am attracted to. I wish to help them be self sufficient not have to look for anyones help. That is one big reason I invested in them.
Yes, I have been asked to send a lap top with cam so they can chat me every day and show me their body!. I would never be stupid enough to do that.
Yes, I get asked to send them money to buy cell phone with cam. Send money to pay for private net room so they can show me their body.
Especially after a typhoon I get asked for money to repair their home. One woman in past said she lost her job because a typhoon damaged the business. On my last trip I went to the store she said damaged in Cebu. You guessed it. Never damaged.
I know of young girls who are made by their mothers to chat old guys like me. Leading to sending money for school.
So we all must be careful. Try to use good judgement.
I usually say," I will help you once I get there and we meet" . I don't say what I really thinking. Which is once I fucked you 10 to 20 times then I will help you.
Ok maybe 20 times is an exaggeration. Some wise guy out there would say 10 is too much for a viagra chewing guy like me.
When are you returning to Philippines and would you ever decide to settle for one good woman or a threesome to satisfy your daily needs. Meaning stick just to those two woman. Stop your searching?
Take care.
Mango bob
Thanks Stoker Ace88,
You could very well be right. My word against the four if things go side ways. I am glad to get a different perspective. I will stay in hotel when I get to cebu. I am thinking the days hotel mactan island or cleverlearn or the lancaster hotel. I use to stay at the cebu grand hotel in past visits.
I will then check out the "situation" with the chica babes. One step at a time. Until your advice I was ready to jump in the frying pan thinking for the best but no longer. Again thanks to be frank.
[QUOTE=Paulr1950;1263488]Hi any guys coming next week, that ayala will be closed those 2 days, I am not sure about other malls or IT PARK yet I will try and find out, this is in cebu[/QUOTE]Ayala and most other malls will be closed April 5th and 6th to observe Holy Week and Good Friday. This happens every year and is in no way breaking news.
I just logged back on, thanks for the support guys. I normally would not air my dirty laundry in public, but people need to be warned about the guy PB, I told him the first time he contacted my GFS they where not interested, and he still tried after I told him I knew what he was doing, PB also made friends with another visitor to cebu and lied about what happened, that same guy was also a prick picking up trash from the street. I know girls who want p4p who are not trash, but I never pimp out my GF's as you guys have seen I would be rich if I could.
The things guys need to know going forward if the guy is rude in any posts or PM, expect to meet and find out the guys are bitter prick's. It funny how PB referred to my looks so did the other prick on a post in another board. One thing guys need to know it is your attitude that goes along way here, try and be a tough wannabe gangster, expect trash and flees. Be nice and honest and yo meet the nicest girls in PI, and some will even sleep with you if you are lucky.
I'll be in Cebu this May too, I'll buy you a round of beer MB. I wish you luck.
[QUOTE=Frenzy3;1263975]Be nice and honest and yo meet the nicest girls in PI, and some will even sleep with you if you are lucky.[/QUOTE]Absolutely. I'm an infrequent visitor to Cebu but have quickly learned to admire that the city has to offer with patience and kindness. Treat others with respect and things happen for the good.
Keep up the good work Mr Frenzy3.
[QUOTE=Frenzy3;1263975]I just logged back on, thanks for the support guys.[/QUOTE]Welcome back Frenzy.
[QUOTE=MangoBob68;1263620][SNIP]This may surprise a lot of us foreign vistors but a lot of these girls wish they had the money for abortion. Not go to term after their husband or bf left them.[/quote]IHO I do not think when a filipina woman gets preggy she wishes she had an abortion. I think there will be a few weeks of shame and difficulty when the woman has to face her family and tell her BF, but that passes quickly and most families accept without too many problems.
It's common for a young woman to find herself preggy but it's also common for the BF to hang around until the baby is born when the requests for support and baby items begin. Then he might consider the easy way out and find someone new. At that point when she realizes the guy has indeed left her and has gone off to find someone else she MIGHT have regret and thoughts of how her life MIGHT have turned out different if she had an abortion. I think it's stretching things when you say "ALOT" of them wish they had an abortion. More likely they are trying every conceivable thing to find a way closer to your heart and wallet by 'making stories' as it's called.
[quote]I use to be a peace corp volunteer and retired teacher. So part of me wants to help some of the girls I am attracted to. I wish to help them be self sufficient not have to look for anyones help. That is one big reason I invested in them.[/quote]Umm, I think a better word would be 'donate' instead of "invest". Invest means there is an expectation of a return, and since you are yet to meet them and get into there panties it's a pure donation, but I'm sure you know that already. I do think since you sent them money they will meet you and spend time with you, so they can try to get more money and gifts from you.
[quote]Yes, I get asked to send them money to buy cell phone with cam. Send money to pay for private net room so they can show me their body.[/quote]Cebu City has a ban on netcafes that have private rooms equipped with webcams since some camgirls were caught showing there coochie on cam in one awhile back. Any woman that asks you for money so she can rent a private booth with webcam is scamming you or she is not located around Cebu City.
[QUOTE=MangoBob68;1263620]I usually say," I will help you once I get there and we meet" . I don't say what I really thinking. Which is once I fucked you 10 to 20 times then I will help you.[/QUOTE]Hey Mango, just never send money or anything in advance. Matter of fact, you can be reasonably certain those asking for $$$ up front are trying it on and unlikely to meet you anyway. Delete away even if you have invested a few weeks chatting them up.
Access now is easier compared to last time in IRC or yahoo. Sites like DIA are just so stacked. But what I noticed though is that so many of them are scammers. Even the ones who I already sent money had their FB, chatted on Cam, received pics and etc. Its hard to be so un attached to what you feel but sometimes I think this is just what is needed.
BTW look at DIA theres a couple of profiles who talk about the river of hangzhou, different pictures and account but most probably ran by an internet script kiddie or a ladyboy. There should be a scammers list here somewhere.
[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88;1263628]Ayala and most other malls will be closed April 5th and 6th to observe Holy Week and Good Friday. This happens every year and is in no way breaking news.[/QUOTE]Did anybody suggest it was breaking news? Not everybody happens to live in Cebu and would know that, prick.
[QUOTE=Gaijin Gigolo;1264485]Did anybody suggest it was breaking news? Not everybody happens to live in Cebu and would know that, prick.[/QUOTE]It's actually the same all over the Philippines.
Malls will be closed on April 5 and 6. Pretty much everything closes down.
I remember everything closed on good Friday. But Saturday. Half open and easter Sunday everything open. In america everything closed on easter Sunday only. Anyone confirm.
QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1264487]It's actually the same all over the Philippines.
Malls will be closed on April 5 and 6. Pretty much everything closes down.[/QUOTE]
I have a somewhat different perception re young pregnany pinays.
First, they tend to be very expert at trading their virginity, and later pussy, for promises of marriage. I have been along this route, and the girl will hold out, legs firmly clamped together, with the offer to open up if I / he promises to marry her. Then eventually he caves in, they sex away, and she becomes pregnant. She knows that they are not yet married. She knows that sexing sans contraception means pregnancy, but she does it any way. I know one couple very well who did marry once she became pregnant, but only one. They are both very well educated, and both very respectable.
Second, it would be very rare for any pinoy lad to marry a woman without the consent of his family. Indeed, it is often the case that the family will arrange the marriage. It is my understanding that once the guy tells his family that she is pregnant, the family will decide quickly if he is going to marry her or not. Even if he wants to, they will force him to marry another woman. Often you will hear her say, after the bit that he ran away, that he is married to another woman. I know of one such woman in this situation. She is gorgeous, and I think that he was interested to marry her, but the family put up a communications wall / embargo, and they are not married.
Third, single pinay with kids are not unusual, and the family generally accepts the kid in time. However, one woman that I know well fell pregnant to a Korean guy, he took off, and her family has persecuted her ever since. She leads a life of miserable survival in the family house outside Cebu. I also know of a woman who had 8 kids by different fathers. Then she met a German guy, telling him that she had 4 kids. They married, and she is now in Germany. 8 kids. Wow.
For what it is worth.
G.
[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1264033]IHO I do not think when a filipina woman gets preggy she wishes she had an abortion. I think there will be a few weeks of shame and difficulty when the woman has to face her family and tell her BF, but that passes quickly and most families accept without too many problems.
It's common for a young woman to find herself preggy...[/QUOTE]
Attention all forum members who will be in Cebu this Fri. You are invited to another ISG 'Free Lunch' with no strings attached. Meet up with some revered local forum members for good conversation and good food. In order to attend the lucky Friday the 13th lunch, PM me soon, because space is limited. We will get together at 10:30 in order to eat at 12:00. I realize that this entails getting up at the 'crack of dawn' for some, but I'm sure you'll find it worthwhile. Its FREE!
[QUOTE=David_33;1266911]Attention all forum members who will be in Cebu this Fri. You are invited to another ISG 'Free Lunch' with no strings attached. Meet up with some revered local forum members for good conversation and good food. In order to attend the lucky Friday the 13th lunch, PM me soon, because space is limited. We will get together at 10:30 in order to eat at 12:00. I realize that this entails getting up at the 'crack of dawn' for some, but I'm sure you'll find it worthwhile. Its FREE![/QUOTE]David I am not getting in till the 18th of April late. And will be in cebi the 2nd untill the 5th of May. I would love to meet up and chip in on the meal and all. Hope we can do something then. I will pm a couple of guys that I am in then. And will have a phone by the 19th. I hope things work out with a favorita and I spend the first week of 19 days along the northern cebu coast line. Then back to the city where she has work study. Will post of the board when there.
[QUOTE=Redman69;1267153]I would love to meet up and chip in on the meal and all.[/QUOTE]No need for anyone to chip in, that's why its called the "ISG Free Lunch", but thanks for the offer. Anyway I'll still be around when you are here as will a lot of the other guys, no problem in meeting up maybe for coffee at the Ayala Mall Bo's or whatever.
i arrived on the 4th, so far have been meeting new dia friends and old and new. and all have been forthcoming in looking after my sexual needs, yippeee but as the women / girls i like 18-25 years old they struggle to give a nice gentle blow job, it seems as though thet all think a little nibble of the bell end is good ouch ouch they need more lessons but total gfe cim without question. sorry there is nothing new but it is my experiance this time around so far.
Just went to the meet up at the Marriott hotel with David 33, a very enjoyable good morning especially being able now to put handles to faces, to all the gents present thanks for the shared wisdom and good company
(p. S. She came back not a ladyboy)
Thanks david33 for a fantastic lunch, it was also great to meet Cole and the rest of boys, this is what I picked up today
I'm in cebu April 21 or 22 for 6 days, waterfront, for my second time. Dia and pinalove seem to have plenty of offers, and my spreadsheet line-up is pretty full at 2 / day with backups, but if there are new recommended local talent spots to visit, not yet in the RTFF here, kindly let me know. It would also be interesting to here from a veteran (but young at heart of course) ISG-er also.
Can't wait for the crack of dawn!
Thanks. My pm is open.
And yes. Ill pick up my handcuffs there rather than bring them over the big big pond.
PM
[quote=col law;1267821]i arrived on the 4th, so far have been meeting new dia friends and old and new. and all have been forthcoming in looking after my sexual needs, yippeee but as the women / girls i like 18-25 years old they struggle to give a nice gentle blow job, it seems as though thet all think a little nibble of the bell end is good ouch ouch they need more lessons but total gfe cim without question. sorry there is nothing new but it is my experiance this time around so far.[/quote]will be there next week, also hope to meet a few dia friends (lol,)
[QUOTE=Col Law; 1268533]Just went to the meet up at the Marriott hotel with David 33, a very enjoyable good morning especially being able now to put handles to faces, to all the gents present thanks for the shared wisdom and good company
(p. S. She came back not a ladyboy) [/QUOTE]Another thanks from me also. Was a fun lunch, good company and food. And the host was very generous so hard luck to those who did not come.
CL glad she was not a LB (for your sake!)
See everyone soon
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger;1268761]Was a fun lunch, good company and food. And the host was very generous so hard luck to those who did not come.[/QUOTE]Sounds like a good time was missed. A rogue's gallery perhaps.
[QUOTE=Sammon;1253722]There are no specific calendar to see when they need money. If the opportunity is there irrespective of if they need money for tuition, rent or whatever they are ready. .[/QUOTE]I agree, talking about certain time for school fees, rent etc is just hokus pokus. They need money all the time.
[QUOTE=Sxxxx;1270520]I agree, talking about certain time for school fees, rent etc is just hokus pokus. They need money all the time.[/QUOTE]Tutition fees will be due in May so be aware of that. Semester starts June so enrollment fees will be requested soon.
I had a few days (in holy week) for fun in Cebu. Prepared myself in DIA finding contacts and phone numbers. So when I arrived had about 50 contacts.
Bought a local SIM card and texted the girls. It is not always easy since the girls often change phone numbers or have multiple numbers for the different carriers. So sometimes the girls replied on a different number.
Anyway had a few appointments a day. I choose an additional room in Tune Hotel just next to Ayala. The good think about Tune Hotel is the closeness to Ayala (all girls know that place) , a short 'transfer time' when meeting in Ayala, the mirrors and that you don't have to pass the reception to go to your room. The bad thing is that you have to pay extra for your towels and for Aircon.
Most of the time the girls were undressed after a couple of minutes after entering the room and enjoyed sex as much as I did. If I wanted, I could fuck all of them without condom. All performed BBBJ with CIM. In contacting them I didn't mention sex, but said that I hope we can make each other happy. So for all of them it was clear that our meeting would lead to sex.
In 4 days I met 8 different girls. All came to my room, some even met me there. Only one stepped back after already getting naked, all other provided sex. One was an complete newbie and had only the second time in her life sex.
I just took pics when I felt that it could be accepted. All agreed but asked me not to post in the internet. To keep their privacy I have to cut their faces.
All would do it without getting money but appreciated my 'taxi money' and were so happy about the gifts I brought them.
Cebu is really a great mongering city. Some girls were so disappointed that I could not meet them. All wanted to see me again.
It seems one of our members has taken it upon himself to make my handle and this site known to a GF I have been supporting thru college!
I really want to say who it is.
And I have left him a message.
What say the members here?
It is unfortunate that some forum members think they will gain points with girls by this kind of behavior. It is loathsome and I think the guilty party should be identified.
[QUOTE=Ultra Pilot; 1272138]It seems one of our members has taken it upon himself to make my handle and this site known to a GF I have been supporting thru college!
I really want to say who it is.
And I have left him a message.
What say the members here?[/QUOTE]Just posted this on the other thread also.
UP.
We have known each other a long time, and I know your gf also. A real keeper.
And we know who did this so best mention his handle and ask why he acted like an asshole. Maybe because he wants her for himself and this way he proves you the bad man.
David33 would have more views on that aspect as the guy is very likely doing this for purely self serving reason and not for anything else.
If he bothers to have the courage to FR here then be interested to hear his view as most of those who do this get flamed badly for their acts.
Sorry to hear that it may not be all nice now with the gf but talk to her and see what she says.
And the ISG member. I know who you are but will let UP disclose and see if you any 'balls' to respond intelligently and in a rationale manner.
Rant over. UP enjoy Cebu
[QUOTE=Ultra Pilot; 1272138]It seems one of our members has taken it upon himself to make my handle and this site known to a GF I have been supporting thru college!
I really want to say who it is.
And I have left him a message.
What say the members here?[/QUOTE]Post his handle here, and hope he gets banned, it would be good if we could weed out guys like this..
I had my run in with a few guys here already I only named one so far
[QUOTE=Sumart;1271150]All would do it without getting money but appreciated my 'taxi money' and were so happy about the gifts I brought them.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report (s) Sumart. Glad to see you had a good time.
I have a theory on the girls in Taxis. When they are on their way to visit us and they are running late, I think it is because they are taking jeepney instead of taxi. Same when they leave, promising to take a taxi home but it is much better financially that they catch jeepney to / from but we pay the taxi rate.
I am so looking forward to getting back to Cebu. My age filters are all whacked now. In other countries I search the dating sites with the girls ages set 40-40. When in Cebu I get to trest the filters to 20-25. So nice and soft.
AJ
[QUOTE=Sumart;1271150]In contacting them I didn't mention sex, but said that I hope we can make each other happy. So for all of them it was clear that our meeting would lead to sex.[/QUOTE]Thank you Sumart for filing a FR with photos! This is a good strategy because most Cebuanas find it uncomfortable talking about sex before meeting for the first time. If they like you, sex is a given!
[QUOTE=Boomer085;1264413]BTW look at DIA theres a couple of profiles who talk about the river of hangzhou, different pictures and account but most probably ran by an internet script kiddie or a ladyboy. There should be a scammers list here somewhere.[/QUOTE]Dragonladies. Org is a good source for info on scammers.
For some reason I see no reason to have a separate forum for Cebu. Can we go back to the old style?
[QUOTE=Mbsl65;1273147]For some reason I see no reason to have a separate forum for Cebu. Can we go back to the old style?[/QUOTE]Hmm that's kind of like the Two Girls One Cup routine di ba? Once it comes out of the hole and into the cup it's not going back in without alot of shit being spread around.
Personally I like the new format but YMMV.
Hello all,
Was in Cebu last week for a few days visiting friends. I went to Ayala mall just to waste some time and enjoy the eye candy when low and behold a foreigner comes up and strikes a conversation with me, it didn't take me long to see where the conversation was going, he actually asked me for money and then later that day another foreigner came up to me and asked for money as well. After 18 years of living in PI, it was a first for me. Many locals ask for money, but this caught me off guard. Anyway, I seen alot of hotties there and several approached me but I wasn't looking at the time. So I would say Ayala is a good hunting ground. Just beware of the white guys asking for money.
Hi, meant to be big development on the area of land around sunflower disco which is now closed, not sure hotel or what, but all the places in there will be closed and demolished in the next month or too, tonyaromas and the convenience shop as well, have to find another spot to pick up?
[QUOTE=Bulik; 1276070]Hello all,
Was in Cebu last week for a few days visiting friends. I went to Ayala mall just to waste some time and enjoy the eye candy when low and behold a foreigner comes up and strikes a conversation with me, it didn't take me long to see where the conversation was going, he actually asked me for money and then later that day another foreigner came up to me and asked for money as well. After 18 years of living in PI, it was a first for me. Many locals ask for money, but this caught me off guard. Anyway, I seen alot of hotties there and several approached me but I wasn't looking at the time. So I would say Ayala is a good hunting ground. Just beware of the white guys asking for money.[/QUOTE]Were they WWF (World Wildlife Fund) volunteers asking for donatations? I have spent alot of time in Ayala, never been approached by anyone other than WWF pleading for pesos (or dollars if they can get it) to save the whales. This goes for foreigners, the locals ask me occasionally.
Maybe you had that 'fresh off the plane' look and as a result some scammers targeted you. Plenty of scammers both local and foreigner abound in the Philippines and they are not shy to ask if they can 'borrow' some money from anyone they encounter. Next time it happens tell the guy to get a job and point to the local McDo or Jollibee, and include "I work for my money why can't you?" If the guy comes back with some crap about losing his passport or illness tell him to go to his Consulate for help.
Gee I feel kind of slighted. Maybe I look too kuripot or poor to ask for a handout. Lmao.
[QUOTE=Paulr1950;1276154]Hi, meant to be big development on the area of land around sunflower disco which is now closed, not sure hotel or what, but all the places in there will be closed and demolished in the next month or too, tonyaromas and the convenience shop as well, have to find another spot to pick up?[/QUOTE]No big loss, I hated sunflower. Some good bands from time to time, and expensive for nothing. Was a crap place to meet freelancers and was going downhill the last couple of years with ladyboys and Koreans increasing in numbers.
Just wondering, where did you read about the closing? Link?
Hello Gentlemen, I haven't contributed anything lately and reading some of the posts I see a lot of guys line up girls from DNA.
I also found this to be a good site to send messages back and forth without paying a membership.
You all may say "where have you been" but I will add two others to the list. Pinalove is very good with info and photos of girls. One can send messages free every 10 min. Hahahaha true. A timer runs until you can send a second message."they" want you to join. Of course. Just need patience.
The other site is tagged. Also a good one and you can flirt with the girl sending her "love" and tags.
I found these to be sufficient without paying monthly membership to places like cherryblossoms and the like.
Maybe you have a good system. What I do is have three ym I'd and use one I'd with each site. I easily get confused when a girl writes back. Often the I'd they use in the website is not the same in their YM. Some girls will write back, for example, This is sally from DNA. Most of the time it is,"hi honey, can we chat"
Again, if they start with "hi honey" it probably is a gay guy! Lot of times the girl does not have a cam. So seeing them will not jog my memory. If I ask too many questions they respond and say,"oh you forgot me already or you have so many gfs.
Maybe this is a separate funny topic. When you have a lot of new contacts you cannot tell one from the other. I remember I asked this one girl which town are you in, sorry I forgot. She replied,"I'm in the Philippines" I want to jump up and down and scream! I know you are in the f. King Philippines.
I will take the blame. Most of the time I am a terrible organizer and I must chat the girl like 6 times before I remember who she is. Sad story. Maybe my mind is like a lolo guy.
I confess something else I tried. And you will probably laugh at me. But at age 68 I don't care anymore. I copy the girls photo. Paste it to a page. I will have say. 8 girls on the page and print it then write their data under the photo. The main info I write is name, age, location, and if have kid / single / separated and of course contact number. Then when I chat them in YM I refer to the "paper" and instantly know which direction to chat.
If you have had any funny experiences meeting girls on line first time or confused . Maybe you like to share them.
I'm glad to know that not just guys make mistakes. I get replies saying, Oh, Steve! I miss you so much" but I'm not steve! Hahahahahahaah
[QUOTE=MangoBob68; 1277792]Hello Gentlemen, I haven't contributed anything lately and reading some of the posts I see a lot of guys line up girls from DNA. [SNIP]
Maybe you have a good system. What I do is have three ym I'd and use one I'd with each site. I easily get confused when a girl writes back. Often the I'd they use in the website is not the same in their YM. Some girls will write back, for example, This is sally from DNA. Most of the time it is,"hi honey, can we chat"
Again, if they start with "hi honey" it probably is a gay guy! Lot of times the girl does not have a cam. So seeing them will not jog my memory. If I ask too many questions they respond and say,"oh you forgot me already or you have so many gfs.
Maybe this is a separate funny topic. When you have a lot of new contacts you cannot tell one from the other. I remember I asked this one girl which town are you in, sorry I forgot. She replied,"I'm in the Philippines" I want to jump up and down and scream! I know you are in the f. King Philippines.
I will take the blame. Most of the time I am a terrible organizer and I must chat the girl like 6 times before I remember who she is. Sad story. Maybe my mind is like a lolo guy.
I confess something else I tried. And you will probably laugh at me. But at age 68 I don't care anymore. I copy the girls photo. Paste it to a page. I will have say. 8 girls on the page and print it then write their data under the photo. The main info I write is name, age, location, and if have kid / single / separated and of course contact number. Then when I chat them in YM I refer to the "paper" and instantly know which direction to chat.
If you have had any funny experiences meeting girls on line first time or confused. Maybe you like to share them.
I'm glad to know that not just guys make mistakes. I get replies saying, Oh, Steve! I miss you so much" but I'm not steve! Hahahahahahaah[/QUOTE]MB68,
IMO no need for multiple YM's but everyone prefers things prioritized in a different way. Here is what I do.
I create seperate sections on my YM based on location; Cebu, Manila, Makati, CDO, Davao ect. I then create sub-sections based on height, weight or other impressive attributes. When you add a contact have her dating profile open and add her to the correct section. Once the contact has been added I click on her YM on my list and I open the tab "Contact Details". I open the "Notes" tab and I write in her name, age, weight, height, location, CPnumber, what dating website I met her on, dating profile number and any other info that seems important.
That system works for me. Much better to take a few minutes and add in her contact details at the begining. I agree, after awhile it can become very confusing when the YM contact list grows. If you are not organized it becomes a very frustrating experience.
[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1277904]MB68,
I open the "Notes" tab and I write in her name, age, weight, height, location, CPnumber, what dating website I met her on, dating profile number and any other info that seems important.
That system works for me. Much better to take a few minutes and add in her contact details at the begining. I agree, after awhile it can become very confusing when the YM contact list grows. If you are not organized it becomes a very frustrating experience.[/QUOTE]You can also left / right (I'm a lefty. So my mouse's backwards) click on the girl's YM name and review the converstion history.
I agree, it can sometimes get a bit confusing; especially if you have not chatted with the girl in a while. If I get an I'm from a girl that's not a regular chat mate, I tell her: "BRB (be right back). On the phone", and then I'll review the converstion history to refresh my memory.
[QUOTE=Pip Jaeger; 1278056]You can also left / right (I'm a lefty. So my mouse's backwards) click on the girl's YM name and review the converstion history.
I agree, it can sometimes get a bit confusing; especially if you have not chatted with the girl in a while. If I get an I'm from a girl that's not a regular chat mate, I tell her: "BRB (be right back). On the phone", and then I'll review the converstion history to refresh my memory.[/QUOTE]PJ,
Using the "message archive" tab to review past chat sessions takes too much time to go back and read over and over. When chatting if anything comes up such as, job, studies, siblings, location change ect I go to the notes tab and add it to her file. Much easier to look at one small note to get all the important stats and it takes only a few seconds instead of 5-10 minutes looking at previous chat sessions.
If I do not chat with someone in awhile I will ignore and delete them. Why waste time with filipinas who are never online or we didn't click for whatever reason. I clean out my YM every few months. Everyone has a different way using technology, and to each there own. What works for one will not work for others.
Thanks gentlemen for your approach to organization. Stoker ace88- you really got it down. I appreciate the advice. I was just thinking about one member here who said he had like 50 contact numbers when he reached cebu. I was thinking how can he put a face to each of those numbers. Hahahahaha Maybe he does what I do when I look at number I wrote and say." well she must be ok if I brothered to write it down." Again thanks for the feed back.
[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1278151]PJ,
When chatting if anything comes up such as, job, studies, siblings, location change ect I go to the notes tab and add it to her file. Much easier to look at one small note to get all the important stats and it takes only a few seconds instead of 5-10 minutes looking at previous chat sessions.[/QUOTE]SA,
Yes, you are right; I bow to the master. Copying and pasting relevant info into the notes section sounds much easier as well as more time efficient.
Great tip, thanks!
[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1278151]PJ,
Using the "message archive" tab to review past chat sessions takes too much time to go back and read over and over. When chatting if anything comes up such as, job, studies, siblings, location change ect I go to the notes tab and add it to her file. Much easier to look at one small note to get all the important stats and it takes only a few seconds instead of 5-10 minutes looking at previous chat sessions.
If I do not chat with someone in awhile I will ignore and delete them. Why waste time with filipinas who are never online or we didn't click for whatever reason. I clean out my YM every few months. Everyone has a different way using technology, and to each there own. What works for one will not work for others.[/QUOTE]I agree, I divide chat mates in yahoo along Manila, Cebu, Davao and other groups and then add it on month by month. And as the chat mate gets interesting. I move them to SPECIAL category.
However, the biggest bummer is 90% of girls I'd in yahoo dies down after few months time. They rarely check. I was so sad of missing some of my best contacts. Later I found out, girls being way smarter than us. After each date and a serious encounter, the girls simply change their I'd and photos and get back on the game.
Out of curiosity, just the other day, I searched for my competition hehehe. Like how many guys there are in DIA, I was shocked to find they are in 1000's or more every given minute. And that too 90% are Filipinos in the age group of 18 to 29.
Mostly westerners, Arabs, few Indians only show up if you sort age group from 35 to 75 age group. I have only seen very few farangs in the highly sought after category of 18 to 25 age range.
Earlier, it was not the case, now it seems even Filipinos are looking for DIA contacts. Just check it out. Know thee competition and mold your style accordingly. Hehehe
[QUOTE=Starchild2012; 1278409][SNIP]Out of curiosity, just the other day, I searched for my competition hehehe. Like how many guys there are in DIA, I was shocked to find they are in 1000's or more every given minute. And that too 90% are Filipinos in the age group of 18 to 29.
Mostly westerners, Arabs, few Indians only show up if you sort age group from 35 to 75 age group. I have only seen very few farangs in the highly sought after category of 18 to 25 age range.
Earlier, it was not the case, now it seems even Filipinos are looking for DIA contacts. Just check it out. Know thee competition and mold your style accordingly. Hehehe[/QUOTE]SC,
It's good info to "check out the competition" and see what kind of guys are online searching for filipinas. Yes there are TONS of guys online trolling for filipina tuna. Crazy part is, only a very small percentage of those guys will ever visit the Philippines. My guesstimate is around 10% or less will set foot in the Philippines. Most are net perverts looking for an online GF or simple girl they can pay for cam2cam sex while there wife is out shopping. Most of those guys will never know the pleasures some filipinas can provide in person.
Now you know why some of the filipina profiles you see on DIA sound so bitter and harsh. They have been lied to and tricked many times by guys making all kind of promises and they are tired and sick of it. I do not blame them. The one part filipinas never understand is that guys who will meet them in person do not make promises for the most part. It's the guys who stay at home that make a billion and one promises because they know they will never be called on any of it. Sad but true.
When a guy comes to meet a filipina and shows her respect and makes her feel special and takes good care of her (money, shopping or sponsor) the GFE and PSE can at times become very overwhelming and addicting (in a very good way) and it more than makes up for all the hours of online chatting or cramped up on long-haul flights.
Enjoy the Philippines.
Hello gentlemen, Stoker Ace 88 made an excellent point about the clientele in say DNA. I have seen more and more filipina profile messages that are near hateful. Refering to "us guys" saying stay away if you are playing games. I'm not a cam girl!" plus more AC girls saying, not every girl in Angeles is a bar girl! Yes, there are all kind of games going on.
The search becomes addictive. The hunt is more fun than the catch. It becomes part of the daily routine. Same for the ladies, they enjoy collecting. It is also entertainment for them during their day. One member made a great suggestion. Don't start your search until a few weeks before the trip. I get tired of saying the same things over and over. Answering the same questions duriing chat. I just say," tell you more when we meet face to face." or" past is past don't need to talk about it"
99% of the girls somewhere in the conversation will ask you why do you want to come to the Philippines? I usually say, look for a place to live with my one in a million honey ko. Why? Even if I not entend to live in the Philippines I want to let them know right away. Forget about coming to the USA if that is your game.
Second, it is all true. I do want to settle down with a sweet filipina. I just not say how many I have to meet before that happens.
Many woman will tell you what you want to here. They tell you how special you. Even say they love you and there are no others. They are eargerly waiting for your arrival. They can take time from work to be at your side as much as you wish.
Truth is. They go with the first nice guy who shows up because like stoker ace 88 said, most guys in the site are talkers. You cannot blame the girls. They are fishing for sweet lapu lapu just as we are fishing.
I ask you members this question. What age bracket do you find the hardest nut to crack? In my humble opinion. The 30 to 35 somethings are the toughest to catch. They are wise and experienced to our games. Hahahaha. Why do I prefer 30 plus. Because I am 68 and I really not want to be some 20 year olds lolo or papa.
There are couple of dirt bags hang around Bo's Cafe. Just ignore the bums and move on with the fun.
[QUOTE=Bulik; 1276070]Hello all,
Was in Cebu last week for a few days visiting friends. I went to Ayala mall just to waste some time and enjoy the eye candy when low and behold a foreigner comes up and strikes a conversation with me, it didn't take me long to see where the conversation was going, he actually asked me for money and then later that day another foreigner came up to me and asked for money as well. After 18 years of living in PI, it was a first for me. Many locals ask for money, but this caught me off guard. Anyway, I seen alot of hotties there and several approached me but I wasn't looking at the time. So I would say Ayala is a good hunting ground. Just beware of the white guys asking for money.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MangoBob68;1278708]Second, it is all true. I do want to settle down with a sweet filipina. I just not say how many I have to meet before that happens.[/QUOTE]Encouraging post. It's actually the same honest bola I feed them. I hope I can be still "looking forward to settle down" at 68, too.
It's really our prerogative, no need to repeat mistakes we did in SFZ.
[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1278592]SC,
Crazy part is, only a very small percentage of those guys will ever visit the Philippines. My guesstimate is around 10% or less will set foot in the Philippines. Most are net perverts looking for an online GF or simple girl they can pay for cam2cam sex while there wife is out shopping.[/QUOTE]Ok. That makes me feel better in a weird way. Not to feel inferior, but I being practical. On the name dropping list. India does not stand a chance against any western county. No matter what work you do, no matter how old you are, your education, your bank balance etc. If you tell. You from USA and I from India. The deal is done. I would mostly get the left over that western men abandon. BUT.
The biggest but is the abundance of dating women available in the PH irrespective of where you from. That was the first shock I got that I felt like a king. I was in demand as well. Hehehe unlike in Thailand where Indians are shown what they true are and not get respect at all.
Now it makes sense, how I could date so many women easily and wondered where my competition are at. Now I know, many don't show up at all hehehe.
Seems like I was unnecessarily worried and to confess, I photo shopped my pic to look extreme white to compete with other guys. Lets be practical. Not racist. No one likes darker brownish guy from India LOL and to tell you the truth. I'm getting more hits than before my original pics and some of the women that I met have told me in face. I looked very different in real than in pic. With my reply being. After coming to the PH. I got changed LOL. Once you meet them. It does not matter that much. With talk and nice dinner. You can nullify all the negatives.
Starchild2012, another particularity that I have noticed with guys from India is their absolute refusal to be with the same girl more than once. It seems to me that you would be better off sticking with someone you get along with and who doesn't have any problem with your ethnicity, skin color and any particular body odor you might emit. Correct me if I am generalizing.
LOL, like barba said few posts down I just love the way you see phils. You just have no idea but you plot along so credit to you. Fist of all - DIA and other dating sites, don't worry about your competiton. The truth is the early bird gets the worm 99% of the time. You get there a day before me, call the girl, set the date up and she is all yours. For most of them its all about the peso and yours is just as good as mine providing you are not an asshole. Yes I can probably outbid you but other factors come into play then. For her its about security and if she likes you why would she swap you for someone she doesnt know that may be an asshole? Also like u said with such an abandence of talent almost all of us would move on and not worry about that girl. Second why the fuck would you chat for months with a simpleton and lets face it 99% of DIA's are simple to the max? What is it that you can learn from her? Why waste your time? I turn on my profile 2-3 days before I get to phils, put down the location as the place where I will be and spend 2hrs max a day sending msgs. Within 3-4 exchanges I move the convesation to YM or skype where I see her and set up the date for the when I arive. It always works, I have even managed to get multiple dates on the same day in cebu loging on YM when I wake up around 10 am and set up a 2pm, 5pm and 9 pm date for the SAME day. Third are you serious about photoshop? Just curious LOL to me thats insane, you realise that we PAY them one way or another right? Dont sell yourself short but also make sure u have the peso to play too...
good luck
[quote]Starchild2012, another particularity that I have noticed with guys from India is their absolute refusal to be with the same girl more than once. It seems to me that you would be better off sticking with someone you get along with and who doesn't have any problem with your ethnicity, skin color and any particular body odor you might emit. Correct me if I am generalizing.[/quote]
True, blame it on the generational conditioning that we are only suppose to be with one girl all our life. With arranged marriage and all. We feel like to rebel what society had imposed on us when we are in freeland. We rarely ever get with multiple girls back home, so its a forbidden fruit hidden charm thingy that makes us go with multiple women. Being with same women brings back horrible memories of India.
[QUOTE=Mc Don; 1279479]LOL, like barba said few posts down I just love the way you see phils. You just have no idea but you plot along so credit to you. Fist of all. DIA and other dating sites, don't worry about your competiton. The truth is the early bird gets the worm 99% of the time. You get there a day before me, call the girl, set the date up and she is all yours. For most of them its all about the peso and yours is just as good as mine providing you are not an asshole. Yes I can probably outbid you but other factors come into play then. For her its about security and if she likes you why would she swap you for someone she doesn't know that may be an asshole? Also like you said with such an abandence of talent almost all of us would move on and not worry about that girl. Second why the fuck would you chat for months with a simpleton and lets face it 99% of DIA's are simple to the max? What is it that you can learn from her? Why waste your time? I turn on my profile 2-3 days before I get to phils, put down the location as the place where I will be and spend 2hrs max a day sending msgs. Within 3-4 exchanges I move the convesation to YM or skype where I see her and set up the date for the when I arive. It always works, I have even managed to get multiple dates on the same day in cebu loging on YM when I wake up around 10 am and set up a 2pm. 5pm and 9 pm date for the SAME day. Third are you serious about photoshop? Just curious LOL to me thats insane, you realise that we PAY them one way or another right? Don't sell yourself short but also make sure you have the peso to play too.
Good luck[/QUOTE]I agree, However, I guess you are from west and a white guy. Hate to bring it down to racial stuff but I suppose you were never stood down on a date. I had. On my very first trip to Cebu with the very first girl. You can check my old posts. The girl showed up, looked me and turned around. I was frustrated and texted her countless times only to get reply that she did not think I was an Indian when we chatted online. Then I came to know its not only the smell but also the infamous 5-6 loan shark thing that has given Indian's a bad name in the PH.
Its not everything about money, girls too have ratings and standard to judge men. I had my ego bruised with all this, the same fate I suffered in Pattaya. But found out, its much easier to mold myself into what they like than staying same. Since, I have changed from six years back and lived in manila. Its been a bliss.
Indians are projected as good accountants, software nerds and customer service guys. Not party charming play boys. Just watch Russell Peter on youtube. We Indians always had hard time breaking into farangs turf on dating multiple women and all those good things in life. Our fate is tied to arranged marriage, having kids, looking after family, parents and then just die. What you said is true, however, if only you could be in my shoes for a day and then you could feel. How hard
it is to get laid for Indians. Yes, I had to photoshop myself. I know its bad. But I don't want to be alone in Cebu after few dates. I need constant supply of numbers to keep having good times not a roller coaster ride which I have seen a lot in my life.
Whom are we kidding. Lets face it. Asian girls love white guys and white skin. Second, they love Japanese, third Koreans. But they could easily juggle among these three. In all my travels to south east Asia. I never heard a girl say. Indians are hot, wish I could have him as my bf, I'm going to ride that hot Indian guy over there tonight. Not even in Soi 6 Pattaya. Where you guys are used to hansum man where you go calls that i would be lucky if I could get an eye contact forget about the cat calls. LOL
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should **** (under 18) girls in dia be named here or is that silly. she states 20 but when met said only 17.
[quote=col law;1281026]should **** (under 18) girls in dia be named here or is that silly. she states 20 but when met said only 17.[/quote]use the chat rooms and pen pals thread cl and definitely, paste their profiles all over the forum.
i support the idea that has been canvassed here that you should not post the link to a good prospect here on the open forum because there are a few lurkers and bottom dwellers here who then jump in and destroy it for everyone. much better to pm your mates if you cannot avail of it yourself or just want to share.
however, any scammer or disguised lady boy (same thing i guess) or **** one is fair game i reckon and you should tell everyone about it.
[quote=red kilt;1281056]**** one is fair game i reckon and you should tell everyone about it.[/quote]ha, i postulate that this will result in her getting a ton of interests and messages. most guys aren't that worried about the age thing.
[QUOTE=David_33;1281093]Ha, I postulate that this will result in her getting a ton of interests and messages. Most guys aren't that worried about the age thing.[/QUOTE]You might be right David.
Dammed if you report her (the under-age scumbags will pile in) and dammed if you don't (the unwitting naive mongers will get caught out)
i am waiting for someone to show that a tourist was set up by an **** girl in cebu. i still think this is an urban legend. i personally have met a good number of girls who admitted that they originally joined dia when they were younger than 18. they don't care. however given that most of the girls look a lot younger than they really are, i see no real upside in meeting a 16 or 17 year old. why bother and why take the risk although imho it would be minimal.
[quote=col law;1281026]should **** (under 18) girls in dia be named here or is that silly. she states 20 but when met said only 17.[/quote]to be honest i think at the time i was just upset at the waste of time and effort, all it turned out to be was i was the entertainment for her and the family to see, i do not think she had any thought of going back to my room (or anyones room) even though of course originally it was offered, can't win them all. just me being pissed off at the waste of time.
[quote=david_33;1281537]i am waiting for someone to show that a tourist was set up by an **** girl in cebu. i still think this is an urban legend. i personally have met a good number of girls who admitted that they originally joined dia when they were younger than 18. they don't care. however given that most of the girls look a lot younger than they really are, i see no real upside in meeting a 16 or 17 year old. why bother and why take the risk although imho it would be minimal.[/quote]i think we are all on the same page about this.
i agree that i can see no reason why anyone would flirt with the possibility that a border-line case might be under-age and especially if she looks ****.
i guess that's why i tend to go for the 26 year olds and above so there is no "risk". i also have some problem in my psyche about screwing a woman who is younger than my daughter, but that's just my own personal foible.
[QUOTE=Starchild2012;1279735]Whom are we kidding. Lets face it. Asian girls love white guys and white skin. In all my travels to south east Asia. I never heard a girl say. Indians are hot, wish I could have him as my bf, I'm going to ride that hot Indian guy over there tonight. Not even in Soi 6 Pattaya. Where you guys are used to hansum man where you go calls that i would be lucky if I could get an eye contact forget about the cat calls[/QUOTE]Next time you're shopping for a product and can't find something that doesn't have 'whitening' in it, just tell the salesgirl that you're looking for a darkening lotion. See her look at you like you have two heads. Always compliment an Asian girl on her skin color, no matter what it is, tell her it's the color you like best. Let's face it. Reality is reality.
This post is late but thought of adding as I am planing my second trip to cebu with a year. This trip is special as it revealed many facets of pinoy life to me. I am in absolute love with this people. In manila, where I had nice GFE from almost all the chat mates I had over the Cupid. I met this 18years old college studnet who loved to be cuddled but did not ask a penny and refuse to accept any gifts. Lovely girl lots of play but no sex. As she is still a virgin, could be true, but I did not want to force her. She is still talking to me at least twice a week.
Went to Cavite for two days as I got sick while in manila (pollution) , had a nice time with a previously arranged girlfriend but will not recommend as I could be better off with out a GF, so many opportunities.
Missed a flight to Legazpi due to bad weather and end up in cebu much earlier. Since then I met my two regular cebuanas with endless opportunities. Time flew like nothing and really enjoyed cebu.
One of the peculiar thing that I noted was the reluctance of bargirls to come with me. I found that they are more interested in koreans and white skinned farangs than indian looking man like me. (I am not an indian, most girls and ordinary filipinos thouhg that I am Filipino) I am sure my mom did not live in fili!
I will be returning again in September, hope to enjoy more
There are lot of pics, will post later
I do visit fili not only looking for pay for sex but GF as well, where you can get it without much hassle, you got to pay some how or the other but you will have time of your life once you get in to the groove.
Cheers.
Colombaa
Slicky here live from Cebu in the Philippines.
The general theme of this trip is."If it were not for bad luck, I would have no luck at all"
Flight from Jp was uneventful and everything was fine there.
The shuttle between terminals in Manila, sucks. I waited about 15 min for a crappy shuttle bus to take me to the next terminal. Plane out of the gate late (PAL=Plane Always Late) I read this somewhere.
Taxing to the runway on PAL and all the sudden all the electrical and lights go off and the plane slows to a stop and we had to be towed and it took about an hour to fix it but the plane was full and no air cond, Shit, not a good start.
Don't take the yellow cab out of the Cebu airport, it's meter starts at 70 and within a block the meter starts a moving, it cost me about 340peso to the Fuente Circle. A wee bit expensive but better than walking. The traffic Jams were everywhere and seemed to take ages to get to the hotel.
Things did go from bad to worse.
First night I went down to J Ave at Mango square. I sat there and have a rare 2 beers and actually feeling the affect. This FL came up to me and we started to chat. Having some wierd vibes about this person, but wanted to see where it goes, I violated the when in doubt there is no doubt rule. Slicky jr was doing the thinking.
OK off to my room. And its shower time.
This FL wanted to be paid up front, I refused (I was not opening my safe while this person was in the room period (Only 2 good decision I made) Then the FL wanted the lights dimmed to almost dark. I said no, cause slicky jr wants to see your snatch. The FL would not take off the undies top or bottom. Nice looking tits turned to no tits, OK now the bottom, show me your kitten. Pull the undies down but quickly covered with hands. I lightly tried to pull the hand away and got resistance. Then and there I went to put my clothes back on. Have you guessed it yet? Yes. LB!
I told the guy to get out, and he began to give me shit, I am sure I could take him but will let managemennt fight my battles went right over to the phone and told it to get out. I gave it 140 pesos from my pocket and told the guy to get out. All the time him telling me he is not a LB. By the way, I did ask if he was at Mango and it lied to me. Close call here boys, I violated some rules about doubt and taking street meat of the streets of Cebu.
Next Day.
I went for a walk and a swim, Sat and read my National Geo magazine at Robinson mall for a bit of fishing for about 4 hours, not even so much a FL looked at me. I noticed a few other whites on the prowl there. Gave that up and went for a walk and had my shoes fix to help give a guy a few moments of work and chance to make some money.
Funny thing, I stopped at McD on Colon. I like the plain hamberger and ordered two of them. And thats what I got. Hamberger meat on bread and nothing else. Be careful of what you ask for. You just might get it.
I arranged a date with a lady on DIA. But this one was a two bagger and did not look like her photo, but being a gentleman I took her to have some cheap italian down the road. When we first met up she told me 15 min ago someone pickpoketed her cell phone, but she sent me a message 5 min before that, go figure. I think she was fishing for some money.
After that, I left her and went back to the hotel and arranged another meeting, Photo on this one matched. She wanted to come over with her cousin. Well. Ok if it puts you at ease. I agreed to help her with transportation. Finally she and her cousin (Guy) showed up at about 1AM and we chit chat in front of the hotel then walk over to Bo's coffee for more chit chat. Yes I pay for that too. Closing time and we walk back to the hotel enterance and she is wondering if he can come up with us. I tell them olny double occupency, true or not I am not sure but used that excuse. I give the cousin 300 just to get rid of him. Finally he leaves us and the girl and I go up to my room and more chit chat. She tells me how cold she is, but the Aircond was off but gave her a poloshirt to wear. She said she was still cold and I suggested that that I hold her and she fell into my arm willingly. A few mins after I was holding her, we got to kissing, but that lasted only about 10 seconds and she pulled away and asked me why I did that. Funny though, for the first 9 seconds she was into it. It ended up that I showered alone, and slept first while she watched TV, and when she did go to bed, she slept on one side of the king size and I was on the other and a gap between us. When I awoke I wanted her out but she began to watch TV again and never talked with me. I told her twice she could go if she wants. Finally she goes in the bathroom and puts on what she wore, not even take a shower and ask me if she could barrow money to get home, I pointed out I gave her cousin 300 as agreed and the word barrow from the standpoint of most Phils means can I have. I gave her 200 only to get her out of my room. She invited me to visit her area and I lied by telling her I would come on Friday.
If it were not for bad luck, I would have none at all.
I can recommend the Summit Circle Hotel, it is clean, strong Wifi, pool, blah blah blah. Definately stay here again at the 3 star prices. 2200 peso per night and the buffet is ok. Bring your own tooth brush though.
Well on to other DIA possiblities.
[QUOTE=Jp Slicky; 1285822]Slicky here live from Cebu in the Philippines.
The general theme of this trip is."If it were not for bad luck, I would have no luck at all"
Flight from Jp was uneventful and everything was fine there.[/QUOTE]Jp,
Are you on a short term vacation? Seems like you are in a bit of a hurry to get things done. If yes, I suggest to drop DIA if not 100% sure and hunt in bars on mango. DIA dates takes time to get going and it takes a lot of heart to keep going after disappointments. The freelancer ladyboy thing could have been easily avoided had you hopped into numerous bars on mango or waited out in J ave and sorted out the catch.
You were not being lucky just did not do enough research to keep going on the right path. Don't be in a hurry. Just chill and go to bars if you on a short time vacation. ELSE. Be forthright in DIA what you really want. Don't fool around. Many girls like the honesty. Just say it upfront. You only here for fun and are ready to make a deal for good time together. You will be surprised to see many replies for your offer. Good luck. Don't loose heart. You just getting started in paradise that called Cebu.)
[QUOTE=Jp Slicky;1285822]The general theme of this trip is."If it were not for bad luck, I would have no luck at all"[/QUOTE]You must be a slow learner Slicky. I have seen you on ISG for a long time and yet you must not have comprehended all the good advice in the Cebu Forum.
Did you read the forum here and just not understand it?
Mistake # 1. Plenty of advice here about using regular taxis. Go out of the terminal, across the road, through the gate in the fence and up the stairs at the RH end of the building. You will fins a row of meter taxis controlled by a security guard who will give you a slip with taxi name and number on it.
Mistake #2. So much advice here about LBs around the area in Mango Ave that you hit. Taking an FL back to your room without being 100% sure is just plain silly.
Mistake #3. Robinson's Mall is very hit and miss. Not much quality wanders around in there. Now and then you might do OK up near the upstairs coffee shop (again. RTFF)
Mistake #4. Taking a DIA girl to your room AFTER she asked if her cousin could come to the room too is a clear indication that she is not going to put out for you. You must be very naive not to realise this. At this point you should have asked some VERY direct questions. If the answer had been not what you wanted then you send her home with the cousin. You said that in the room she got into the bed and got into kissing you then moved away. Then you say later she went in the bathroom and got dressed???
Does this mean she stripped, got into bed with you but then nothing happened??? Bit puzzling. Seems to me she was waiting for you to push a bit harder on her but who knows?
I hope to read new posts that you got your act together. Seriously man. Read TFF and understand it. Plenty of clues for you here.
Once again I encounter another forum member who is an embarrasment to ISG. I have to agree with all who are fed up with trying to help any guys on the forum. A few days ago I posted about a cute girl from one of the dating sites who wanted to meet some nice guys for fun. No money involved except for taxi. She had just turned 18, seemed very nice and had never been with a foreigner. I got PMs from the usual assortment of individuals from India who just want photos to beat off to and other lurkers. However one guy who had posted around 30 times asked for information. Since he told me that he had finalized his plans and was going to arrive in Cebu yesterday Monday, I gave him the girl's contact information. According to her he started chatting with her, told her everything he wanted to do with her, and then beat off looking at her face (no naughty webcam chat with this one) and came all over his t-shirt. He had promised her he was going to meet her on Monday. This piece of garbage didn't even get in touch with her to call off the date. She gave me all this information AFTER being stood up. She had canceled all her plans in order to meet him. So I am left looking like a fool because I recommended this guy to the girl. Never again.
David:
I have made, if not the same, then similar mistakes in trying to help out guys on this forum, and adopted the "never again" mantra several years ago after a similar embarrassment. It's simply not worth the risk when thinking of helping guys whom you don't know, will likely never meet, and to whom you owe nothing in the way of favors.
GE
[QUOTE=Starchild2012;1279735]On my very first trip to Cebu with the very first girl. You can check my old posts. The girl showed up, looked me and turned around.LOL[/QUOTE]You've been complaining about being Indian for many months now. I think it's time you accept what cannot be changed and move on.
If you don't want a girl to reject you for being Indian on dating websites, maybe you should have made it clear immediately that you're Indian.
I ended up in Cebu earlier than originally planned.
Walking in Cebu between appointments I got the 'look' from a couple of young ladies. They were sitting at a table outside a closed restaurant. Their opening line was "Where you going? You want massage?" Opening price was P2000 for duo massage.
A short discussion and I walked away at P1, 000 for two head jobs. When I say walked away, I was hapy to go without them as I hadn't planned on anything this lunchtime as I have two hot dates tonight. I had a meeting to get to.
As I was walking away, I calculated that back into my currency and at $25 for two head jobs in my lunch break from a couple of polite Pinay, probably not a bad investment.
Back in the room, a little fruits from the basket, they showered and onto bed. One was reasonably shy, the other was the more experienced BJ delivered. Pretty quickly worked that out and let her take the lead.
Another shower and they were on their way. They did ask to take a spare roll of toilet paper, which I allowed them. Quick scan around the room didn't see anything else disappear. Valuables locked away in safe and suitcase.
I love this place.
AJ
[QUOTE=FurryFriend; 1286448]You've been complaining about being Indian for many months now. I think it's time you accept what cannot be changed and move on.
If you don't want a girl to reject you for being Indian on dating websites, maybe you should have made it clear immediately that you're Indian.[/QUOTE]Are you serious. No, I get it, you the Chinese American who starts fight with all members and after they all flushed you out. You are onto something new to get your BS on. I'm just stating the facts smarty pants. If you had taken time to read what I wrote and not just blush your brains out. I have already moved on or else why would I be here. And first use your brain to read and not write what you already want to cause shit with.
Ohh so now you are the master of dating sites. I have read all your bottom feeding stories before and it ain't amusing and not at all something people could get advice from.
Give your advice to someone who has the brain size of your own. I'm just wasting my time writing this to you. Just pick someone else. I DON"T NEED ANY ADVICE FROM YOU GET IT. I know you are the unofficial sh*it stirrer in PH forum from the glorious past reports. I'm not here to debate with you anymore. SO GO AWAY BYE
[QUOTE=David_33;1286393]Once again I encounter another forum member who is an embarrasment to ISG. I have to agree with all who are fed up with trying to help any guys on the forum. [SNIP] So I am left looking like a fool because I recommended this guy to the girl. Never again.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=GoodEnough; 1286403]David:
I have made, if not the same, then similar mistakes in trying to help out guys on this forum, and adopted the "never again" mantra several years ago after a similar embarrassment. It's simply not worth the risk when thinking of helping guys whom you don't know, will likely never meet, and to whom you owe nothing in the way of favors.
GE[/QUOTE]D33 and GE,
Many many many moons ago I stopped sharing info on filipinas with expats and ISG members alike. No CP numbers, no dating profiles or YM's exchanged. As GE pointed out it's a lose-lose situation for both the girl and for the guy who passed along her info. The net trolls, want to-be visitors to the Philippines and idiot with no manners and even less clue how to treat a woman all seem to be the ones who rush to be first in line to request contact info.
I throughly divide my ISG life from the filipinas I date. When meeting someone from the board I show up alone and enjoy good company, a few laughs, some food and a few cold drinks. I decline any and all requests from the members I meet who wish to introduce me to a woman. Thanks but no thanks. I can find my own. No harm no foul and it insulates me from exactly the kind of situation UP had to deal with.
I will give a nod of the head and maybe a wry smile to the guy if we happen to cross paths in Ayala, S&R or somewhere in CC if I am with my gwapa GF and leave it at that.
[QUOTE=Starchild2012;1286557]Ohh so now you are the master of dating sites. I have read all your bottom feeding stories before and it ain't amusing and not at all something people could get advice from.[/QUOTE]On another forum devoted to Philippine mongering, I had a discussion with several people comparing our experiences on dating websites.
Clearly, my response from girls on DIA is less than your typical, older white guy. I estimate 25% less. DIA has developed a reputation for meeting (and scamming) older white guys so girls are naturally there primarily to meet them.
But just because my response is 25% less, I don't sit around and mope at being Chinese or lash out at someone on a public forum who made a commonsense suggestion. Because even though my response is 25% less, I still have access to almost an infinite number of girls to the point where the playing field is ridiculously in my favor. It's just a bit less ridiculous than for older white guys.
Oddly, my responses on FilipinoCupid, a paid website, is considerable higher than for older white guys. I think it's because girls there are more interested in marriage and many (if not most) Filipinas prefer Asian guys since Asians are more similar to Filipinos than Caucasians.
So the bottom line is, we cannot change our ethnicity. Instead of being so angry and lashing, we should just accept it with dignity while finding strategies to maximize our results in an unfair and unequal world.
That reminds me there was a guy giving out details of a girl, I do not think he knew her all that well she ended up stealing a camera and stuff from another guy on this forum. I met the girl over coffee but never took it further as I caught her lying to me, and was not surprised to hear that she was a theif
Once again my time in Cebu has been productive. Prior to arrival I did some research and made contacts via Tagged. I had a list of 33 Cebu names and numbers of which I had a shortlist of 5.
I hadn't made any arrangements to be met at the airport as I prefer to clear my thoughts upon arrival. As I walked up the ramp to the taxis a girl caught my eye and kept making eye contact. Eventually she approached me and asked if I was Aussie Jo. Turns out she was a Tagged contact whom I had mentioned my arrival time. I had taken her off my short list as she wasnt what I was looking for. Anyway, what the heck, I invited her to ride with me tot he hotel as I had 1 hour spare before my first meeting.
In the room, she was shy but friendly but jut wasn't able to move with me quick enough in the time I had. We ended up with a kissing embrace and a farewell. Nothing ventured nothing gained. She was then texting me each day offering to come back but I had better options.
After my work meetings met up with a Facebook contact this time. SHe has plenty of bathing suit and glamour photos on her page. A drink at TGI Fridays and then over to the hotel to watch some Filipina TV. In the room she was pretty and nice, excellent BJ with swallow completion. Just off her period so she didn't want DATY.
Later that night, caught up with a tagged friend. Quite stunning in pictures but always cautious to kill off any of my flirting talk. Conversation was very intellectual and she is obviously more than what she describes as just ordinary hotel worker. She works at a Cebu 5 star. In the end, a quick kiss, she dropped me in taxi back to hotel and she went home. Once again, a text next day said she was ken to catch up again.
Not a bad first 8 hours in Cebu.
Had work commitments the following day and zero action.
Next day, during appointments I had the two random Ayala girls for lunch.
After work at 4pm met a contact from about 40kms away. She was cute, a coffee at The Coffee Bean and then to hotel to watch some fashion TV. She gave the minibar a bit of a workout and she was up for fucking. Nice BJ, nice fucking, nice bod. In the end, she was actually incredibly drunk. When I look back, she has a body weight of 45kgs maybe even less. I would not let her drink the same as me again. Had to move her on with little grace as I had a hot date with a contact from Day 1.
Turned up a little late at Slabadu, some club / bar somewhere. I just told the taxi driver the name. Nice music. Cobersation was again engaging. She told me what they say and hotels about the white foreigners whom have a reputation for having multiple women per day. I felt a little paranoid at this remark but of course I appeared amazed at that. Eventually she decided to come back to my hotel for a 2am Hotel massage. Surprise surprise, the hotel massage wasn't available and I had to help out. Wonderful body. She is not a working girl, just a successful, focused local girl. She did everything except fuck, which I guess she is keeping special. Looks like another trip to do the deed.
Did soem souvenir shopping at Ayala this morning, first lady I pass was 'spending the day alone' and open for contact. A work for the readers of this forum. While there are available ladies at Ayala, there are also many many beautiful ladies whom simply aren't looking to be picked up. So, maybe for 2, 000 ladies at Ayala, only 1-2 are open for casual pickup. Pick your ladies, they will make eye contact AND retain eye contact. Don't make fools my hitting on the wrong sweet ladies.
Sadly, it's time to leave today. I've invited one lady for the airport trip, hopefully she'll have time for a great BJ before we leave the hotel.
I do love it here in Cebu.
[QUOTE=FurryFriend; 1286927]On another forum devoted to Philippine mongering, I had a discussion with several people comparing our experiences on dating websites.
Clearly, my response from girls on DIA is less than your typical, older white guy. I estimate 25% less. DIA has developed a reputation for meeting (and scamming) older white guys so girls are naturally there primarily to meet them.
But just because my response is 25% less, I don't sit around and mope at being Chinese or lash out at someone on a public forum who made a commonsense suggestion. Because even though my response is 25% less, I still have access to almost an infinite number of girls to the point where the playing field is ridiculously in my favor. It's just a bit less ridiculous than for older white guys.
Oddly, my responses on FilipinoCupid, a paid website, is considerable higher than for older white guys. I think it's because girls there are more interested in marriage and many (if not most) Filipinas prefer Asian guys since Asians are more similar to Filipinos than Caucasians.
So the bottom line is, we cannot change our ethnicity. Instead of being so angry and lashing, we should just accept it with dignity while finding strategies to maximize our results in an unfair and unequal world.[/QUOTE]Ok this makes more sense. Wish you could have written in before. I never complain about being Indian. If I was I would B**ch about the Filipinas in all my posts just out of hatred and give it back to them for hating Indians. On the contrary I love PH. I was stating facts about how Indians could change themselves to suit better to local culture.
Sorry about the earlier post. I realized it was too harsh. May be it was a communication gap. Being from India. English is not my thing. I just make words out from Hollywood movies and CBS shows. So my whole emotions on indian thing gets lost in translation.
[QUOTE=Aussie Jo; 1286951]While there are available ladies at Ayala, there are also many many beautiful ladies whom simply aren't looking to be picked up. So, maybe for 2, 000 ladies at Ayala, only 1-2 are open for casual pickup. Pick your ladies, they will make eye contact AND retain eye contact. Don't make fools my hitting on the wrong sweet ladies.
I do love it here in Cebu.[/QUOTE]AJ,
I couldn't agree more, there are many P4P girls there at the mall too, but there are also a few gems that enjoy the company of foreigners; I've met a couple myself and I'll post FR's about one or two of them later, been too busy to do much writing (insert big grin).
Now that I've found a few P4P girls who I can rely on and a really nice regular, or non-P4P lady (who has a full time job and has come over at 10 pm after work a couple of times to stay the night with me) I've scaled back on hunting. I'm quite content to sit at one of the coffee shops and watch the ladies go by; I truly appreciate the beauty of the women here. If a lady passes by that makes AND, as you aptly stated AJ, retains eye contact, then (AND only then) I'll approach her. Unfortunately I've seen a couple of westerners who will literally chase down and try to pick up regular girls. They do nothing but make asses out of themselves and embarrass the young ladies. I would almost be willing to bet that these are the guys who will post on ISG (or other sites) about how crappy the hunting is here and cry about not making any contacts.
I've quickly established a routine and my dance card has been quite full – coffee in the morning at one of the mall shops, have a lady or two meet me in the hotel for some mid-morning / mid-day fun, rest up a bit, back to the mall for dinner and 'window shopping' on the terraces, then meet up with another lady for a few hours of mattress bouncing or my regular lady for a true GFE night of great sex and cuddling.
What amazes me here is how many of these girls are willing to introduce you to their gf's, cousins, sisters and co-workers; heck, one 19 year old girl even wants me to meet up with her 37 year old mother – and I am seriously considering it! I think if you treat them nice, they know that their friends will be safe with you and, as Frenzy pointed out to me, they want to 'spread the wealth' within their own little circle. I wonder how other mongers pass up the opportunity to meet ladies this way, just because they're either too afraid to ask or aren't nice and respectful to the girls they are with. And I don't mean being nice as in overpaying them or buying them extravagant gifts; I mean simply treating them as a person instead of an object or sex toy.
[QUOTE=Starchild2012;1286997]Ok this makes more sense. Wish you could have written in before.[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3lUzGDAZNM&feature=relmfu[/url]
There is a hilarious channel on YouTube called Simple Pickup featuring three "pickup artists" who film themselves approaching girls in outrageous ways in order to get phone numbers. Most of the girls they approach are college students in Southern California. They've put out dozens of videos, including the example I've posted above.
Many of their approaches fail. But a lot of them succeed. They do a good job attracting girls because of how they present themselves. Due to their popularity, ABC Nightline (a news program in America) actually did a feature on them a few months ago.
I'm telling you this because one of the three guys in the vidoes. Is an INDIAN. Watching their videos, I'd even say the Indian guy is the most skilled of the trio.
As an Indian guy, yes, you have a disadvantage meeting girls. I'm not going to sugar coat it. Girls harbor wicket stereotypes. So your job is to act in a way that defies those stereotypes immediately, just like the Indian guy in the Simple Pickup videos who's good at socializing with random girls.
One stereotype of Indians is that they have a ferocious temper. You lashing out on an earlier post didn't do much to counter that stereotype. I wonder if you act similarly in-person.
[QUOTE=FurryFriend; 1287398][url]Http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3lUzGDAZNM&feature=relmfu[/url]
There is a hilarious channel on YouTube called Simple Pickup featuring three "pickup artists" who film themselves approaching girls in outrageous ways in order to get phone numbers. Most of the girls they approach are college students in Southern California. They've put out dozens of videos, including the example I've posted above.
Many of their approaches fail. But a lot of them succeed. They do a good job attracting girls because of how they present themselves. Due to their popularity, ABC Nightline (a news program in America) actually did a feature on them a few months ago.
I'm telling you this because one of the three guys in the vidoes. Is an INDIAN. Watching their videos, I'd even say the Indian guy is the most skilled of the trio.
As an Indian guy, yes, you have a disadvantage meeting girls. I'm not going to sugar coat it. Girls harbor wicket stereotypes. So your job is to act in a way that defies those stereotypes immediately, just like the Indian guy in the Simple Pickup videos who's good at socializing with random girls.
One stereotype of Indians is that they have a ferocious temper. You lashing out on an earlier post didn't do much to counter that stereotype. I wonder if you act similarly in-person.[/QUOTE]Haha, that was hilarious. Yeah. Sometime I get cannibalistic. I'm trying to improve and keep my calm around. Thanks for the video
She told me what they say and hotels about the white foreigners whom have a reputation for having multiple women per day. I felt a little paranoid at this remark but of course I appeared amazed
Hmm, what exactly do the call us? I would love to capture those thought bubbles as they hold the door open.
pj i was down ayala today at the usual bos and saw the stupidest guy sit down next to some obvious young girls, they where not looking at him so he gets up and gives them his card, they left with out finishing their drinks, he sat there waiting for the next victim.
guys need to learn some eq, if the girls are not interested do not make them feel uncomfortable. i watched the whole thing and it was obvious the girls where not p4p and where ****. it was a weekend you are going to see more no pros on weekends so back off unless they are looking at you.
[QUOTE=Pip Jaeger;1287320](---)What amazes me here is how many of these girls are willing to introduce you to their gf's, cousins, sisters and co-workers; heck, one 19 year old girl even wants me to meet up with her 37 year old mother – and I am seriously considering it! I think if you treat them nice, they know that their friends will be safe with you and, as Frenzy pointed out to me, they want to 'spread the wealth' within their own little circle. I wonder how other mongers pass up the opportunity to meet ladies this way, just because they're either too afraid to ask or aren't nice and respectful to the girls they are with. And I don't mean being nice as in overpaying them or buying them extravagant gifts; I mean simply treating them as a person instead of an object or sex toy.[/QUOTE]I thinkthere is nothing bad in paying a few drinks or a meal to their friends or close relative (but more tricky as how are they seeing you?) and maybe enjoy the company of some nice girls around. We do this in the westwern world to invite friends (of both sex) to a dinner to our palce for a drink and nobody judges other than "he is social". So indeed there should not be any blast if one does so in SEA with one of his girls. Especially when he is fully aware and adult. Lcoals knwo that we have a vacation and suaully in holidays one spends more than usually spends at home (in general)
[quote=frenzy3; 1288485]pj i was down ayala today at the usual bos and saw the stupidest guy sit down next to some obvious young girls, they where not looking at him so he gets up and gives them his card, they left with out finishing their drinks, he sat there waiting for the next victim.
guys need to learn some eq, if the girls are not interested do not make them feel uncomfortable. i watched the whole thing and it was obvious the girls where not p4p and where ****. it was a weekend you are going to see more no pros on weekends so back off unless they are looking at you.[/quote]frenzy,
i have seen foreign guys do some idiot moves in ayala and sometimes at sm too. the guys seem to be new to the philippines. they have no clue they are making a fool out of themselves when they give out there business cards or walk up to filipinas who are not p4p or looking for a foreigner. they think since they are the 'rich foreigner' they can make the rules and do as they want. not so. it only takes one wrong move in the philippines to learn the hard way.
i saw one clueless guy a few months ago walk up to an **** girl outside rustans department store in ayala. she was dressed in her high school uniform and she was busy texting while her mom went inside rustans for a few minutes. the guy was around 60yrs old and stopped to talk to her. the guy was eatting her up with his eyes and had this big smile on his face as he asked for her number and if she wanted to make some pesos. the girl was not impressed and started to walk away just as her mom came out of the store. the girl told her mom what had happened and the mom ran over to the guy and started to swing her purse hitting the idiot over and over yelling at him. the guy ran off and the security guard from rustans came out to see what was going on.
some idiots have no clue. one hour later i saw the same guy stop to talk with some korean women in there early 20's outside krispy kreme. they walked away laughing at him.
newbies to the philippines have to understand it takes awhile to accurately gauge the age of filipinas and to pickup on small details in the way filipinas dress that determines what level of society they come from and if they are giving you 'the look' or not. it takes time to pick out the p4p mall regulars from the women who are there to shop or have 'hangout time' with there friends.
not every filipina is interested in foreigners, and infact some are very against foreigners dating filipinas.
[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1288514]Frenzy,
Newbies to the Philippines have to understand it takes awhile to accurately gauge the age of filipinas and to pickup on small details in the way filipinas dress that determines what level of society they come from and if they are giving you 'the look' or not. It takes time to pick out the P4P mall regulars from the women who are there to shop or have 'hangout time' with there friends.
Not every filipina is interested in foreigners, and infact some are very against foreigners dating filipinas.[/QUOTE]I think all of us who live here have witnessed similar: "I haven't got a clue" behavior often. I'm not sure what happens to some newbies when they step off the plane here that makes them think every woman they see will be a willing sperm receptacle. Their embarrassing infantilism and awkwardness may, on occassion, land them in serious trouble, at least in Davao. I think these are probably guys who haven't experienced success in decades with women in their own countries but have managed to convince themselves that here in the Philippines their gut-stretched tee shirts, sandals and ratty looking shorts will proved irresistable to women forty years their junior. It would be funny, if it weren't so insulting to the local population.
GE
Yes that is another point, the guys do not shave or try and dress nice. The other thing girls tell me is smile, you get the so called tough guys come here and they are younger and they never smile.
I always say if your here less than a month stick to bars, if you want freelance action find a girl who is a p4p and tell her the truth, when a p4p ask you want other girls say yes. She wants your peso, she gets a finders fee from girls she sends to you.
As for the guy I saw yesterday he is in pussy heaven but has to wank, any one who comes here and says they did not get pussy needs to learn what is posted here.
There are a series of excellent posts here from Stroker, GE and Frenzy.
One can only hope that eventually the news will filter into mongers who visit here for short times that in a population of almost 100 million people only a very small proportion of women are interested in sex with much older foreigners.
Many of this proportion are bar girls, mall freelancers and lonely women, some who post on DIA and other dating sites who are wanting companionship.
They are usually around places where foreigners can be found.
The remainder are not at all interested in old guys at all (by old, I mean 50 plus).
As you move further and further away from the tourist places you meet more "natural" women. Some of them just like sex, but MOST are regular girls who are intimidated by foreigners.
Many of the posts on ISG about successful conquests in malls or random meets in rural cities are literally "one off" events that are often read by others as normal events that happen all the time. They do not happen very often.
[quote=stroker ace88;1288514]. the guy was eatting her up with his eyes and had this big smile on his face as he asked for her number and if she wanted to make some pesos. the girl was not impressed and started to walk away just as her mom came out of the store. (---) some idiots have no clue. one hour later i saw the same guy stop to talk with some korean women in there early 20's outside krispy kreme. they walked away laughing at him. (--) not every filipina is interested in foreigners, and infact some are very against foreigners dating filipinas.[/quote]behaviour of a potential ****. sick guy as he surely was aware of what the mom was about. he didn't care and progress to the next target. one can make mistakes in a bar girl where a 16yo can state being 18 and we know sometime it is difficult to determine the real age (that is always better to go with those clearly looking above 20 or more) , but approaching a young girl in a mall is the typical psycho behavior. doesn't happen by chance. thanks the girl reacted properly and "did not accepted the sweets from the stranger". it also shows the idiocy of a lot of people thinking that their money can buy anything and people in the so called third world are up to anything for the money.
we all don't want to admit it, but the philippines has become a haven for ****s. on another forum devoted to philippines mongering, you have guys bragging about shagging 30 kg girls and even having a house full of them to introduce to others. some would post photos of their girl on the scale so you can see the read-out of the scale as proof of her weight.
i didn't think this was a big deal. being american, we don't use the metric system. but on conversion, i found 30 kgs is equivalent to 66 pounds, which is the average weight of a 10 year old girl. i was completely shocked and disgusted.
what i found most shocking is not sick-os bragging about banging 66 pound girls, but that so many others seem to think it's no big deal. that has led me to believe that ****-tendencies for those who monger in the philippines is way higher than other destination except maybe for cambodia. these guys would say anything anonymously on the internet to defend their fetish. yet, they would never wear a shirt in public that reads "my girlfriend is 30 kgs".
even if you take a "live and let live" attitude, you should be concerned. if more and more ****s go to the philippines, it will attract more attention from ngos, which would invite crackdown on bars.
It's the effect of the "Brad Pitt" pill we all take prior to leaving the airplane (smile)
[QUOTE=GoodEnough; 1288521]I'm not sure what happens to some newbies when they step off the plane here that makes them think every woman they see will be a willing sperm receptacle.
GE[/QUOTE]
I did a lot of trolling at Ayala, and only one woman who was not a hooker smiled at me. Plenty of hookers there on a Saturday night, not sure if that is the norm though.
[quote=bionicman;1288595]behaviour of a potential ****. sick guy as he surely was aware of what the mom was about. he didn't care and progress to the next target. one can make mistakes in a bar girl where a 16yo can state being 18 and we know sometime it is difficult to determine the real age (that is always better to go with those clearly looking above 20 or more) , but approaching a young girl in a mall is the typical psycho behavior. doesn't happen by chance. thanks the girl reacted properly and "did not accepted the sweets from the stranger". it also shows the idiocy of a lot of people thinking that their money can buy anything and people in the so called third world are up to anything for the money.[/quote]bm,
i could tell the girl was a high school student from her uniform but i doubt the idiot knew she was ****. she was tall, maybe 5'3 and the idiot stopped to talk to her because she was alone and he did not see her mom go into the store.
it does take some time spent in the philippines for westerners to easily guesstimate the age of a filipina. newbies should be careful until they gain some experience and when in doubt stay away.
imo i think the guy was just horny and fresh off the plane on his first trip to the philippines and full of 'brad pitt-a-ppines" energy and he made a$$-hole out of himself. clearly he had no clue which women to approach or who was available, so he was just walking up to any and all who he deemed suitable. guys like that become statistics and everyone in the west gasps in horror when they hear the news of a foreigner badly beaten or killed in a place like the philippines.
i can remember another incident a few years ago. i was sitting at y-o-u bar one evening on mango across from julianas at the outside tables with a gf at the time and some of her friends.
at the next few tables there was a well-known barangay captain from a barangay located near mandaue sitting with his very gwapa gf and 15-20 friends. i asked who he was because he was older than all the other guys in the group and i noticed he had a handgun stuffed in the waistband of his jeans. i had no clue who he was until my ex-gf told me.
looking at the guys in the group they all were youngish in there 20's and 30's with short well kept hair. i guessed pnp. they were all having a good time enjoying the music. the tanduay and red horse was flowing but everyone was well behaved. that is until a drunk foreign guy walked over from julianas. he spotted the beautiful gf of the barangay captain and walked over to her. he bent over and said something in her ear. she looked at the foreigner and she made a face like wtf and she shook her head no. one of the guys told the foreigner to leave. he didn't leave. he bent down again to try to talk with the girl and she kind of pushed the foreigner away because it looked to me as if the guy tried to kiss her. big mistake.
alot of the young guys jumped up and kicked the crap out of him. punches, kicks, blood everywhere. good thing the captain was inside the bar at the time and didn't see what happened. the foreigner got off the pavement and staggered away as best he could with blood dripping from his busted face. i told my table that was our cue to leave and i asked for 'bill out' lol. when the captain came outside and was told what had happened he looked furious. he asked his gf if she was ok and they had a chat in bisaya. at the end of the chat the gf smiled and then the captain burst out laughing and everyone laughed with him. they continued to drink and enjoy the evening while i made my exit.
that's the only time i witnessed violence against an expat or foreigner at the hands of a local. the guy deserved what he got. i said it before, but in the philippines if you step on the toes of a local (connected or not) expect a nasty and swift response.
Lately theres been a discussion on how to pick up girls at malls. Well, I've been to Ayala mall a few times where girls have tried to pick me up. This has caught me off guard bcoz there has been no eye contact or smile initiated from me. I'm surprised bcoz filipina are usually shy especially among foreigners. I have not followed through from these attempts. Just wondering if I did do I have to be careful I might be set up for a scam of some sort. These ladies are well dressed and definetly not hookers.
[QUOTE=Jp Slicky;1288741]I did a lot of trolling at Ayala, and only one woman who was not a hooker smiled at me. Plenty of hookers there on a Saturday night, not sure if that is the norm though.[/QUOTE]Hookers? Umm, the term to use in the Philippines is BG's (Bar Girls) and also GRO's (Guest Relations Officer) for those women who work out of bars.
For women who can be picked up from malls the term would be semi-pro or p4p (pay for play) women.
Hookers (generally speaking) are women who walk around on Sunset Boulevard in heels and hot pants with mega-makeup. I have never seen HOOKERS walk around Ayala.
Yes standard to see ALOT more semi-pro's and p4p women around Ayala Saturday night, since that's the usual end of the work week and alot of people out drinking or looking for fun.
If you walked around Ayala on Sunday morning or Sunday afternoon you would be correct in your observation that there are not so many p4p women around. Sunday is a day meant for family and for attending church services. Sunday night is better if you are looking to pickup.
[quote=stroker ace88; 1289014]bm, (-) i could tell the girl was a high school student from her uniform but i doubt the idiot knew she was ****. she was tall, maybe 5'3 and the idiot stopped to talk to her because she was alone and he did not see her mom go into the store.
(-) that's the only time i witnessed violence against an expat or foreigner at the hands of a local. the guy deserved what he got. i said it before, but in the philippines if you step on the toes of a local (connected or not) expect a nasty and swift response.[/quote]nice insigiht story. i agree with you on the principles that tons of people step out of the plane expecting p4p, hookers, sw, flooding the places and every female can be not only a target but a willing partner (even more if he knows he can show the $$).
it is a fact that sea offers more sex opportunities than the western world, that girls, in general and in average, dress also sexier (especially in bkk or sin) and so, for the sick mind they are all there for selling their bodies.
i always laugh to myself at around 7pm, both in sukhumvit area (in bkk) and ot (in sin) as it is a grey time: are the pretty girls walking with high heels and mini-skirts leaving the office (the legitimate 9 to 5 one) or going to the "office" (the wg one, ie bars etc)? a non trained or well informed person might also get wrong vibes and approach the wrong girl!
I loved Stroker Ace's story about the poor schmuck who tried to hit on the barangay captain's girlfriend. Can you imagine walking up to a table of young, fit guys in New York, or Paris, or elsewhere in the West and trying to pick up the one single girl at the table? The outcome, I'm sure, would have been similar. What is it in the air here that makes guys think they can get away with outrageous behavior that they would never consider at home? I guess that despite the repeated warnings from guys to actually know the country, to fly always below the radar, just goes unheeded.
GE
We don't know what kind of trolling you were doing, nor do we know how old are you. It's hard to make a comment. I go to Ayala for the shopping, restaurants, etc. Besides that, it's a good place to meet (as in first date) gals and a great place to take ladies for a meal or even some pictures.
[QUOTE=Jp Slicky;1288741]I did a lot of trolling at Ayala, and only one woman who was not a hooker smiled at me. Plenty of hookers there on a Saturday night, not sure if that is the norm though.[/QUOTE]
Have a d5fferent *ers*ect5ve. Rather than be5ng newb5es, s4s*ect they have 14st vent4red 64t 6f AC.
[QUOTE=GoodEnough; 1288521]I think all of us who live here have witnessed similar: "I haven't got a clue" behavior often. I'm not sure what happens to some newbies when they step off the plane here that makes them think every woman they see will be a willing sperm receptacle. Their embarrassing infantilism and awkwardness may, on occassion, land them in serious trouble, at least in Davao. I think these are probably guys who haven't experienced success in decades with women in their own countries but have managed to convince themselves that here in the Philippines their gut-stretched tee shirts, sandals and ratty looking shorts will proved irresistable to women forty years their junior. It would be funny, if it weren't so insulting to the local population.
GE[/QUOTE]
I may have been a bit too careful. But I did not want to be that poor schmuck and disturb or make someone uncomfortable who was at the mall that for reasons of just having a good time or shopping. I did get the eye from some women though. No nonpros would even look at me.
I am 52 and a gentleman first and naughty second, although this may have been my downfall.
I struck out on DIA contacts big time too. However, I read how Bionicman, I beleive, scored 3 out of 4. The DIA women I met, except for one, would not even get them to come in my room. Read about my failure with the one that did come in another posting. Most of the DIA contacts were nothing short of being complete airheads. One was so stupid, I refused to meet her, but she did not care, all she wanted was the chocolate bar I promised and she came and picked it up on a rainy day from the front desk. I met about 10 DIA women and for many the conversation never lasted more than 30min before I bailed out by telling them I have to do some company work (a lie). They had nothing to say, just stared down in their lap. The prolonged silence was a real drag.
Many may not beleive it, but I did read the posts and even took notes. A prominate member of this Philippine board who's technique I read up on extensively, but I failed. I take responsibilities for many mistakes. But could also be I am no Tom Cruze either.
My one success was at J Ave where I scored a freebie.
I met Pip Jeager and talked for long time with him at Ayala, and Frenzy3 I beleive was kind enough to PM me with suggestions. I did learn a few things too.
[quote=furryfriend;1288617]i didn't think this was a big deal. being american, we don't use the metric system. but on conversion, i found 30 kgs is equivalent to 66 pounds, which is the average weight of a 10 year old girl. i was completely shocked and disgusted.[/quote]for the sake of education, people here should update themselves on the definitions. it is sh*t the same morally and legally, but the mall man who was hitting on a 16 year old girl is not necessarily a **** by definition (he can be a **** as well well though).
are they really 30 kilos? sounds extreme and like something that someone would crack down on immediately if it is on the internet. if they are ****, you should absolutely not write about it here, but rather report it immediately. google will help you if you are clueless on where to report. if it is not illegal but just repulsive to you, you will just have to click yourself to something that suits you better.
by just writing this post you could be contribute to portraying this lovely country as a **** destination. i had many girls who where around 35-40 kilos and i like small females sometimes. i know many guys who also likes these spinners, but this has nothing to do with having sex with children. many asian girls of 18 or 28 will be around 35 kilos, so let us kill the idea that small in usa equals a child all over the world.
this discussion pops up every now and then, and everyone rush towards showing their disgust. nothing defines ourselves for ourselves as the things we fear and hate. in my opinion the best is to report when you see something illegal and then shut the f*ck up about this second home of ours being a **** sex haven. it is not that for the major part of the visitors, and rubbing in the picture that anything is for sale in the philippines will not help the country.
i try not to be opinionated but can not help to chuckle every time i read the advice to fuck lola "to be sure it is not an **** girl". yes, guys let fear guide you. someone is always watching you. conform to majority and then take one extra step to be 100% sure you fall in line. leave the teenagers to the ones who posses the magical skills of extracting the true age from a girl. i am ironic, of course. a slipping slope only exists if you let it, so no need to be so afraid to put your penis in a 18 year old girl. some girls actually do tell you the truth, and it is not that hard to weed out the ones that don't.
barba
[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1289148]Can you imagine walking up to a table of young, fit guys in New York, or Paris, or elsewhere in the West and trying to pick up the one single girl at the table?[/QUOTE]Try it in for example Riga and feel instant pain.
There is (was) a a Spanish looser and his son roaming around the clubs in Davao. The son has been an asshole several times when I saw him. Threatening women. A real man. He has a hearing disorder and it seems he thinks he must compensate by playing cool. Like a deaf gangster clown. He got his ass kicked eventually also I was told. But apart from this I saw or heard of very few incidents where the locals sat down the foot. It makes me sick to see these hilbilly clowns, including the Spanish pricks (hope you reads this you pathetic loosers) , behaving like pigs. But sooner or later maybe the locals gain some self esteem and starts to react. It will probably be a couple of generations before we have the Thai kick ass pride in the Philippines though.
B
[QUOTE=Jp Slicky; 1289702]I may have been a bit too careful. But I did not want to be that poor schmuck and disturb or make someone uncomfortable who was at the mall that for reasons of just having a good time or shopping. I did get the eye from some women though. No nonpros would even look at me.
I am 52 and a gentleman first and naughty second, although this may have been my downfall.
I struck out on DIA contacts big time too. However, I read how Bionicman, I beleive, scored 3 out of 4. The DIA women I met, except for one, would not even get them to come in my room. Read about my failure with the one that did come in another posting. Most of the DIA contacts were nothing short of being complete airheads. One was so stupid, I refused to meet her, but she did not care, all she wanted was the chocolate bar I promised and she came and picked it up on a rainy day from the front desk. I met about 10 DIA women and for many the conversation never lasted more than 30min before I bailed out by telling them I have to do some company work (a lie). They had nothing to say, just stared down in their lap. The prolonged silence was a real drag.
Many may not beleive it, but I did read the posts and even took notes. A prominate member of this Philippine board who's technique I read up on extensively, but I failed. I take responsibilities for many mistakes. But could also be I am no Tom Cruze either.
My one success was at J Ave where I scored a freebie.
I met Pip Jeager and talked for long time with him at Ayala, and Frenzy3 I beleive was kind enough to PM me with suggestions. I did learn a few things too.[/QUOTE]Its a blessing. Filipinas are passive and submissive. Do you really want an "opinionated" "feminist" women on the door who will read your rights. You will have plenty of that kind back home. LOL.
That been said. There are lots and lots of really smart women in the PH. Who just don't come on a dating site, they are scooped by the locals itself. As GE points out. If you looking for a long term relationship. Dating sites are not the one to go but friends who can recommend a good girl to you.
If you looking for a girl who could give you a good conversation and be a good gf experience as well. I suggest you try Manila. Some of the girls are really up there. I don't know if you checked filipiaheart dating site as well. But beware of scams. Plenty more than DIA but some gems to be found. I got lucky and dated a manila girl who was a beauty, could talk about Stargate atlantis to corruption in the PH to food. We talked for 4 hours straight.
PH is the number 1 call center, KPO, BPO destination. Almost all the girls you will meet from these industries are smart. Cebu dating girls are mostly from province and dating 20 year olds will get you only so much. If you want a good conversation women. Start above 30+ age range.
I think its your first trip. You are trying to process too much information and unable to comprehend and make sense of it all compared to back home and that you been a nice guy. Finding it hard to make tough choices. You are doing just fine. Give it some time to soak in and come back few times more to PH and I bet you will never want to live. Seems like you been too hard on yourself sometimes. Just chill. Don't try too hard. Everything will come to you here slowly. Don't be hard on yourself. You are doing fine.
Been in Cebu a week now. Lots of fun.
Frenzy, thanks for the advice. But it turned out that she really just had forgotten her I D. She came back the next day, this time with I D, and we had a great time. So no problems there. And she wasn't a freelancer.
Had lunch two times at Laguna Cafe in Ayala. Very good food.
Witnessed two girls (one pregnant) getting into a catfight in Mango Sq. One of them took off her shoe and beat the other one over the head which made a pretty bad cut. Bleeding all over the place.
Had a beer at Gilligan's, which seems to be the meeting point for white guys. Nice atmosphere, everybody having a good time. Just wondering why everybody brought their Filipina children along?
Not sure where to go now. Thinking about visiting Bohol. Any advice on girls and where to stay there? (1-1. 500 p range). Or is Lapu Lapu a better choice in your opinion? Heard good things about both places, but also that the girls aren't as easily accessible. Any truth to that?
Mactan places can be very nice. I believe any white sand beach you see has been shipped over from Bohol or elsewhere. I prefer Bohol over Mactan beaches. Ocean Jet ferry (used to be Pier 1) should get you to Tagbilaran in about 90min and then a taxi to Alona beach (or elsewhere). In your price range you might have to settle for something off the beach. There are numerous hotels with varying prices in the Alona beach area. You could probably just go there and walk around and find a place.
[QUOTE=Bongster; 1290514]Been in Cebu a week now. Lots of fun.
Frenzy, thanks for the advice. But it turned out that she really just had forgotten her I D. She came back the next day, this time with I D, and we had a great time. So no problems there. And she wasn't a freelancer.
Had lunch two times at Laguna Cafe in Ayala. Very good food.
Witnessed two girls (one pregnant) getting into a catfight in Mango Sq. One of them took off her shoe and beat the other one over the head which made a pretty bad cut. Bleeding all over the place.
Had a beer at Gilligan's, which seems to be the meeting point for white guys. Nice atmosphere, everybody having a good time. Just wondering why everybody brought their Filipina children along?
Not sure where to go now. Thinking about visiting Bohol. Any advice on girls and where to stay there? (1-1. 500 p range). Or is Lapu Lapu a better choice in your opinion? Heard good things about both places, but also that the girls aren't as easily accessible. Any truth to that?[/QUOTE]
[quote=bongster;1290514]thinking about visiting bohol. any advice on girls and where to stay there? (1-1. 500 p range). or is lapu lapu a better choice in your opinion? heard good things about both places, but also that the girls aren't as easily accessible. any truth to that?[/quote]bohol is not a good mongering destination. lots of girls from bohol on dia etc but there are only low-scale places there for you to try to meet girls.
there is not a good bar culture.
the society there is a very religious one (check out all the bible quotes on the backs of each tricycle) but cab drivers will know where to take you if you find one who isn't affronted by your request. just check whether rosary beads and sto nino figurines are all over his dashboard and rear-vision mirror.
you can find some stray pickups around alona beach but they will most likely be experienced freelancers who are there because that's where foreigners go.
much better to line up some women from chat sites to meet if you go there.
by the way; lapu lapu is only 10 to 15 minutes from sm mall in cebu and is a part of cebu city, same as mandaue etc. just get a cab there one night and check out the bars (read the cebu thread for the latest on bars in and around lapu lapu or lapu x2 as the locals call it).
it is not a separate place from cebu (like bohol or negros or siquijor for example).
good info for newcomers, especially the ones who tend not to look at maps. ha, ha. mactan beaches are easily one day trips from central cebu city, but they have high access fees. i haven't done this in a long time, but i'm guessing about 500 pesos per person. there are girly bars in lapu2 near the bridges, on the opposite side of the island from the beaches. mermaid was always the best by far, but i haven't been there in a long time. from the aiport, just before the bridge to cebu city, you will pass mermaid on the right.
as for bohol, rk is correct in that you should set something up in advance. in my case i took a gal from cebu and on a subsequent visit met up with a bohol gal who i had met six months earlier in cebu.
rk -- clarification please. it is my understanding the mandaue, lapulapu and talisay are all independent cities adjacent to cebu city, all of which are in cebu province. x
[quote=red kilt; 1292841]bohol is not a good mongering destination. lots of girls from bohol on dia etc but there are only low-scale places there for you to try to meet girls.
there is not a good bar culture.
the society there is a very religious one (check out all the bible quotes on the backs of each tricycle) but cab drivers will know where to take you if you find one who isn't affronted by your request. just check whether rosary beads and sto nino figurines are all over his dashboard and rear-vision mirror.
you can find some stray pickups around alona beach but they will most likely be experienced freelancers who are there because that's where foreigners go.
much better to line up some women from chat sites to meet if you go there.
by the way; lapu lapu is only 10 to 15 minutes from sm mall in cebu and is a part of cebu city, same as mandaue etc. just get a cab there one night and check out the bars (read the cebu thread for the latest on bars in and around lapu lapu or lapu x2 as the locals call it).
it is not a separate place from cebu (like bohol or negros or siquijor for example).[/quote]
[QUOTE=X Man;1293209]RK -- clarification please. It is my understanding the Mandaue, LapuLapu and Talisay are all independent cities adjacent to Cebu city, all of which are in Cebu Province. X[/QUOTE]Yes X Man you're right but only in the same sense that Quezon City, Pasay, Paranaque, Malate, Mandaluyong, Pasig City etc are all cities in Manila too but they are all connected and the boundaries are fuzzy.
The OP seemed to imply that he might prefer to go to Lapu lapu instead of Cebu; my point was simply to point out to him that is is adjacent to Cebu City and he need not change hotels etc just to check out Lapu Lapu.
SM Mall is in Mandaue but I have no idea where the boundary is between it and Cebu City. The taxi ride takes around 10 to 15 mins from Mango Ave and you would never know you are in a "different" city.
Talisay is a little further out but I have had DIA women take taxis from Minglanilla, Talisay, Toledo (on the other side of the island) etc to meet me in SM or Ayala Malls. The damage is sometimes 300 php but still easier and cheaper than me trekking to see them.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt;1293228]Yes X Man you're right but only in the same sense that Quezon City, Pasay, Paranaque, Malate, Mandaluyong, Pasig City etc are all cities in Manila too but they are all connected and the boundaries are fuzzy.[/quote]I disagree. While the boundries are somewhat fuzzy to visitors, the locals and most expats who live in and around CC know where the lines are give or take.
The recent dispute between Cebu City Mayor Rama and the city council in Mandaue over some CC garbage trucks hauling there smelly load that drips waste water through Mandaue. That dispute has resulted in some Mandaue jeeps being denied entry to CC streets and vice versa. The end result has been a few new small boundary signs being installed between the two cities.
Personally the way I used to tell the boundary line marking CC from Mandaue was by the color of the traffic enforcers shirts. Cebu City CITOM has darker blue versus lighter blue in Mandaue. Traffic enforcers are instructed by there respective city halls to patrol the city boundries and give out tickets to so-called outsiders. LOL which is laughable.
[quote]The OP seemed to imply that he might prefer to go to Lapu lapu instead of Cebu; my point was simply to point out to him that is is adjacent to Cebu City and he need not change hotels etc just to check out Lapu Lapu.[/quote]Most Cebu City taxi's will take you to Lapux2 for actual meter fare plus 50-100p depending on the destination and traffic conditions.
[quote]SM Mall is in Mandaue but I have no idea where the boundary is between it and Cebu City. The taxi ride takes around 10 to 15 mins from Mango Ave and you would never know you are in a "different" city.[/quote]SM City Cebu is located in Cebu City, not Mandaue. Mabolo actually. There is also another SM in Consolacion "SM City Consolacion" and the SM Seaside City megamall currently under contruction at the SRP is also located within Cebu City limits. The only SM property in Mandaue is a hypermarket.
[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88;1293255]I disagree. While the boundries are somewhat fuzzy to visitors, the locals and most expats who live in and around CC know where the lines are give or take.[/QUOTE]I bow down to your superior knowledge Stroker but I think your trivia about boundaries and all the SM locations completely missed the overall point I was making in that it doesn't matter whether you are in Mandaue or Cebu City or Lapu Lapu as a monger because all are accessible by taxis.
What monger cares about garbage disputes or whether a boundary between Mandaue and Mabolo or whatever is this road or that? I certainly don't care what color shirts the traffic enforcers are wearing but if you are into that sort of analysis in your daily life then good luck to you.
I have lived in Manila for 15 years and I have no idea where the various city boundaries are here because I don't care and it doesn't affect my daily life and work one little bit. I suspect the same is true of most denizens of Cebu and surrounds.
I will defer to you as the resident Cebu expert in future (although Frenzy might be jealous LOL).
[QUOTE=X Man;1292827]Mactan places can be very nice. I believe any white sand beach you see has been shipped over from Bohol or elsewhere. I prefer Bohol over Mactan beaches. Ocean Jet ferry (used to be Pier 1) should get you to Tagbilaran in about 90min and then a taxi to Alona beach (or elsewhere). In your price range you might have to settle for something off the beach. There are numerous hotels with varying prices in the Alona beach area. You could probably just go there and walk around and find a place.[/QUOTE]There are a few small bits of whitish-beige sand to be found on Mactan, but not many. Most white sand is trucked in and has washed out into the surrounding water with the shifting tide like around Shangri-La.
Pandanon island is a 40min banca ride from the Punta Engano area and has the best stretch of white sand close to Cebu City. Entry fee 150p per person. Book a cottage for 250p. A great place to enjoy lunch or a beautiful sunset.
[QUOTE=Bongster;1290514]Been in Cebu a week now. Lots of fun. SNIP Not sure where to go now. Thinking about visiting Bohol. Any advice on girls and where to stay there? (1-1. 500 p range). Or is Lapu Lapu a better choice in your opinion? Heard good things about both places, but also that the girls aren't as easily accessible. Any truth to that?[/QUOTE]Bongster.
I have stayed at a couple of the Mactan resorts and I agree with SA88, the beaches were uninspiring and unattractive, there was hardly any surf where I stayed and the sea was so calm you could hardly see a ripple on the surface. It was just totally underwhelming each of the three times I stayed there and added to that it is very overpriced. As for girls in Lapu Lapu, a large percentage frequent DIA so you will have no problem meeting girls from there, but far better to stay in Cebu City and pay their taxi fare IMHO.
Another option is Moalboal but it is about 3. 5 hours by bus, but the beach and the sea there is perfect if you want a beach vacation and they have a resort dedicated for diving if that is your thing. But like Bohol you need to take your own girl as options for pick ups there are very limited.
I'm thinking about a trip to Camotes next time I'm in Cebu. Has anyone been there? X
[QUOTE=Mortman; 1293696]Bongster.
Another option is Moalboal but it is about 3. 5 hours by bus, but the beach and the sea there is perfect if you want a beach vacation and they have a resort dedicated for diving if that is your thing. But like Bohol you need to take your own girl as options for pick ups there are very limited.[/QUOTE]I have just arrived in Cebu for what is planned to be an extended stay. I have Moalboal and learning scuba diving high on my list. I would think your BYOG advice is right, since it seems to be a quite small place. Anything else you can pass on about it?
I stayed at a dive resort, but there wasn't much of a beach there. It was a nice place. It was recommended by SpamHog, who doesn't post here much anymore.
The second day I took a ride to "white beach". This was a far nicer beach, but the only accomodation I noticed seemed to be a rather high-end place.
I also went to the waterfall. I thought it was a nice side trip. Some guys will offer to guide you. You don't need the guides to guide you. You'd have to be a fkwit to get lost on the trail, but you might want to let them carry your bag. Somewhere on this trip I picked up an eye infection and I suspect it was the water hole under the falls. But it might have been my face to far imbedded between some girls thighs. You just never know.
Also on this trip I got off the bus in Carcar. If you have any interest in history or architecture, it's worth a few hours. I left my gal at Jollibees and roamed around. I never saw another foreigner. X.
[QUOTE=Azil;1294095]I have just arrived in Cebu for what is planned to be an extended stay. I have Moalboal and learning scuba diving high on my list. I would think your BYOG advice is right, since it seems to be a quite small place. Anything else you can pass on about it?[/QUOTE]
Attached, pic of Quo Vadis resort. Trike driver won't understand you though. Next door is a nice restaurant with ocean view, see pic. And the beach pic shows the dive site Pescador Island and beyond that Negros island.
Everything XMan has said is accurate, the small diving resort has some good swimming and snorkelling but white beach (a few kilometeres away) is the place to stay if you like a nice beach and it is true to its name. I stayed there with my gf and her two kids, it was slightly expensive and you are at the mercy of trikes who seem to charge whatever they want since there are no buses or taxis around the resorts themselves.
Interestingly I went there at the recommendation of SpamHog whom I met one day for a coffee, shame he dosen't post anymore, he was a very knowledgable guy when it comes to Cebu. As SpamHog once said, the drive from Cebu City to Moalboal is one of the most picturesque on the island and it is breathtaking in places.
It is a great place to relax and unwind, lots of small bars and restaraunts around, but to be honest I was bored after few days and went back to Cebu City.
There are several massage places in the dive resort itself and I did enquire if 'extras' were avaialble which they are, though I didn't partake because my gf was lurking.
Apparently there are some other resorts further South in Allegria, though I have never ventured that far afield. Yet!
Discussion on Camotes Islands is moving here, since I mistakenly posted in bars thread. Please see post by Questor there.
Thanks Q, I appreciate you taking the time to give a field report. Please allow me to add a few facts that've been churning somewhere in my alcohol-sodden brain.
There seem to be many options for the boat trip, but Danao has the most options. There are boats from Cebu as well as Ouana pier in Mandaue.
I've found both good and bad reviews of Santiago bay Resort. In your post you don't mention anything about beachfront or beach quality. Some of the reviews suggest that the hotel is not at the beach. Another place I searched out,"My little Island Hotel" has good reviews, but is NOT at the beach. The web page didn't impress me at all.
As for the new construction mentioned by Questor, there is apparently a new place with a similar name to the adjacent place (that Q mentioned). I'm too lazy to scroll down, but if you are interested in Camotes. Do so.
In my notes I see that Keshe Beach is recommended, but I don't remember if that is a real beach or a hotel name. Oops. My bad.
A local gal I met at DIA recommends Mangodlongparadise. Com.
Thanks again Q for sharing info. For a certain someone who can only advise fellow ISG members to search the Internet (duh) , ummmmm, (ending of sentence self-deleted because the moderators tell me that if I can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all). .
X.
X asked for more details regarding Santiago Bay Resort and other options. SB Resort sits in an elevated position roughly 50. 60 meters above the beach. Lovely views! There is stairway access to the beach, but the high tide will cover this portion of the sand to a depth of about 1 meter. The bay itself looks lovely and the sand is clean and fine. It's more of a wading beach than a swimming one, as it remains very shallow for at least a 100 meters before it drops off. I'd say Mangodlong Resort is inferior to SB as it lacks the gardens, swimming pool and nice restaurant. However, probably better for swimming and snorkling. I was originally interested in My Little Island Hotel on Poro Island, but it is absolutely in the middle of nowhere and is not close to the beach. I get the impression it is another one of those Philippine follies where very few guests try to enjoy themselves in a place where the dream has died and the maintenance is sorely lacking. I stand to be corrected on this by anyone with personal experience of this place. If it is possible to rent a small motorbike on Camotes for 2. 3 days, then this would be the way to go.
Interesting game plan. Hope it works. Maybe deduct as a charity.
[QUOTE=MangoBob68; 1263327]Hello all! This is my second post ever. But I'm not new to what is going on in the Philippines. I have chated hundreds of girls from a few site such as tag and cherryblossoms, and pinalove. Pinalove is good for guys who want to set up ahead of time to have someone waiting them when they travel / tour island to island. It is free and not need to pay to send messages. I read what Sammon was saying about the girls. I agree with him. What I am going to say now you will think I am stupid but try my logic. Hahahah.
I have a "gf" that I have been chating for 4 months now...[/QUOTE]
[quote=col law;1281026]should **** (under 18) girls in dia be named here or is that silly. she states 20 but when met said only 17.[/quote]last year, i met a dia contact. she seemed younger than her 20 yo claim. after some patience and gentle interrogation, she confessed to being 17. i was polite and explained my disappointment like a gentleman should. after our snack and soda, i sent her home on a jeepney. fast forward to this month. my sweet little pinay is now 18. she sent me a message to invite me to meet her as soon as i can get back to cebu city. getting the green light from such a sweet pinay is so intoxicating. in conclusion, i suggest the soft approach towards these little darlings. don't get too worked up when you find out they are ****. just send them away with a smile. treat them like a princess. a year of maturity will only make them friendlier when next you meet.
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I arrived yesterday from Bangkok via Manila what a nightmare of a journey. I want to vote Cebu Pacific having the most uncomfortable seats ever. I am not overly tall but I found the leg room very restrictive and cramped and the seats too short so it was impossible to lean my head back properly. The thick metal bar inside the top of the magazine pouch on the back of each seat was at just the right height to cut off all circulation to my lower legs. If that was not bad enough I was sat next to a fat Pinoy who was fast asleep and snoring as soon as we left the ground. I don't know what a hippopotamus sounds like when it is being strangled, but I am quite sure it would have sounded similar to this guy. All my plans to grab a few hours sleep in the early hours seemed shattered so I asked the stewardess to move seats, only to find myself now sat further back in the plane in front of another Pinoy, lying prostrate along the entire row of seats behind me, snoring and grunting like a pig. Although there were other seats available, I did not want to look like a serial complainer so I suffered the rest of the journey in silence. Thank God Manila airport has improved since I last passed through there a few years ago, the transition from international arrivals to domestic departures was smooth and uncomplicated. Arrived in Cebu around 6am jumped in a taxi and headed for my hotel.
Couldn't sleep so headed off to Ayalla Mall for a late lunch after checking in. I have been to Ayalla more times than I care to remember and I was surprised to see so many freelancers this time, all making eye contact as we passed and smiling. I had a half decent lunch in the Golden Cowrie, tuna belly with vegetables and a cold beer before heading back to the terraces to do some hunting.
I caught the eye of two girls who seemed to be loitering outside Starbucks so I made eye contact with one, got the smile and without further ado moved over to chat. The girls were age 21 and 23 and the younger of the two was acutely shy, looking embarrassed every time I spoke to her. The older of the two admitted she was looking for a foreigner and the younger one, when probed admitted she had never been with a foreigner. I must admit I find shyness quite a turn on and this girl had the kind of body that always turns me on, very slim and petite and very short. My guess is that she could not have weighed more than 35 kilos, probably the smallest grown woman I have ever met, but perfectly proportioned. Her name was Liezel by the way.
Well guys you are not going to believe me when I say that this girl admitted to me that she had NEVER had a boyfriend. She was reluctant to talk to me saying she felt scared of going with a guy whilst her friend was giggling, prodding and teasing her. To say I was in disbelief was an understatement and her friend reassured me that she had never been with a guy. I asked her to come back to my hotel but she declined and I left them on the terrace feeling let down and frustrated.
I then started receiving numerous texts from the girl saying she liked me but was very scared and after about 20 similar texts back and forth they agreed to meet me again this time on the top floor by the cinema complex. Another similar conversation followed, the girl was obviously unsure and despite my reassurances I would be gentle with her she again declined to come with me. I was feeling tired and fed up with what seemed a waste of effort and told them I was going back to the hotel. I made my way downstairs and headed onto one if the terraces only to get yet another text from the girl asking me to wait and telling me she would come with me if her friend could come too. I cannot usually be bothered with this kind of effort and the girl was in all honesty quite plain facially, but it is not every day you get to deflower a virgin so I agreed.
Anyway we got a taxi to the hotel, got sniffed at on the way in by the explosives dog, although he missed the bomb waiting to go off in my trousers and got to the room. Leizel was initially reluctant to do anything and every time I touched her, she froze. Her friend told me she would leave the room as Leizel would not feel so shy once she had gone. Once we were alone I persuaded her to get into bed for a cuddle, I was only able to remove her clothes with the reassurance she had a bed sheet to prevent my prying eyes. I managed to get her naked and she began responding to my touch and kisses putting her tongue into my mouth as we embraced. Her pussy was quite lubricated and with her agreement I placed a big blob of ky gel in her pussy, I told her this would make sex less painful. I always keep a tube for such unforseen emergencies.
I tried to enter her but she winced with pain and tensed up each time I inserted the tip of my cock. I managed to get about half my cock inside and I had my hand underneath one of her butt cheeks, the whole of her ass was so tiny it almost fitted in the palm of my hand. It was still too painful as I could see her wincing so I withdrew, finished myself off by hand and spurted my hot sperm across her tiny body. We chatted on the bed, I told her she needed to try and relax a bit more and that I would wait for her until she felt ready. We both showered, I gave her 1500 and we met her friend downstairs in the hotel lobby where they left in a taxi.
I then get about 20 text messages over the rest of the afternoon and evening from Leizel, vowing her undying love for me. I got bored after the second text message and did not respond anymore after that, despite her messages getting more insistent about her passionate love for me.
Went for a late dinner and headed to Mango Square at about 11pm. Went into the nightclub we all know as Julianas which has changed its name again since I was last there or maybe I was too drunk to notice last time. l paid my 100 pesos and went in to have my internal organs pounded with the thumping base. Lots of cute girls, a couple approached me at the bar but I felt indifferent at that point and was content to just chat.
Only stayed for the one beer which was included in the cover charge and went outside to explore. Loads of people around it was now well past midnight and after a further beer outside I decided it was time to head home, or at least that was the plan until I met Anne outside, who was part of a large group of girls sat at a table close to edge of Mango Square.
Anne was like Liezel a little shy and I ended up having a conversation with her through one of her friends. Anne was 18, very pretty in an innocent kind of way, with a slim body. She was wearing tight figure hugging jeans that showed off her long legs perfectly and a small loosely fitting top that showed she had tiny breasts and a light touch of make up on her face. She was very cute, not in a sexy way, but natural looking and pretty. Well all illusions of innocence were shattered immediately when her friend announced that it would cost me 1500 for short time so off we headed. We went to a short time hotel the name if which I cannot remember, not as far away as the Greenland and on the way to Ayalla, a new place I never even knew existed. I learn something new every time I come back here.
The cab enters the hotel complex in much the same way as the Greenland and once I paid the taxi Anne was off obviously treading a well worn route up to the second floor knowing exactly where she was going. We both undressed together, her body was a delight to behold, tiny pert breasts and nipples, a small perfectly flat stomach, and gorgeous legs. Her pussy was neatly trimmed into a small strip just above her pussy and once we were on the bed, me lying on my back, she climbed on top of me and started sucking my nipples intensely. I could feel the nerves tingling in my body as I got rock hard and sensing my heightened arousal she moved down to my cock teasing it with her tongue. I was ready to burst, turned her over on her back and entered her tight, (extremely tight) but moist pussy in the missionary position. She responded by thrusting her hips back and forward in rhythm with my thrusts and in an embarrassingly short time I orgasmed. Total damage 1500 for her (no extra for taxi) and 260 for the room.
I let her get a taxi alone back to Mango Square, I headed off to my hotel quite tired after such a busy day and little sleep. If every day is like this I will need an extra vacation just to recover!
This was uploaded from my iPad so I apologise for any text formatting or word errors, IPAD is not ISG friendly
[QUOTE=Mortman; 1296817]We went to a short time hotel the name if which I cannot remember, not as far away as the Greenland and on the way to Ayalla, a new place I never even knew existed. I learn something new every time I come back here.
The cab enters the hotel complex in much the same way as the Greenland and once I paid the taxi Anne was off obviously treading a well worn route up to the second floor knowing exactly where she was going. .[/QUOTE]Nice details Mort, except for lack of detail about the ST hotel you used.
You mention Greenland. Do you mean "Queensland" or is there one called "Greenland"?
Where exactly is this new place you were taken to. Surely you remember some of the details?
Anybody got any up to date intel on ST hotels around or near Mango (Gen Maxilom Ave)? It seems the scene has changed over the past couple of years. I only knew Queensland (a dump) and SOGO.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1297019]Nice details Mort, except for lack of detail about the ST hotel you used.
You mention Greenland. Do you mean "Queensland" or is there one called "Greenland"?
Where exactly is this new place you were taken to. Surely you remember some of the details?
Anybody got any up to date intel on ST hotels around or near Mango (Gen Maxilom Ave)? It seems the scene has changed over the past couple of years. I only knew Queensland (a dump) and SOGO.[/QUOTE]Can't remember the name RK I had been without sleep for nearly 48 hours but I will find out before I leave. I remember the taxi heading off from Mango Square heading in the opposite direction to the Queensland (not Greenland. Sorry). The taxi went along Escario Street towards the direction of the Elizabeth Hotel that is about all I can remember. The hotel had a cafeteria on the 1st floor and it all seemed very new. The road it is on is quiet, not much development there and I recognised the area as I have been down it befor in taxis. It was very clean LCD TV in the room showing porn, and not bad for 260. I have used both the Sogo and Queensland and this is more convenient and the area not as seedy. The others thing I remember was the taxi fare was exactly 65 pesos. Hope this can help one of our other members to identify the place for you RK
Could it have been Tune Hotel? Is it possible to just walk in the place or does a reservation have to be made previously online?
Good to see your report. Have a good time. One of these days I will get to meet you. Hope to hear about your girl and her kids. And what ever fresh meat she brings to the house. Have a safe trip. RED
[QUOTE=David_33;1297119]Could it have been Tune Hotel? Is it possible to just walk in the place or does a reservation have to be made previously online?[/QUOTE]Not Tune or Island Resorts nearby as both on a busy road and won't be showing 24 hr porn. I thnk there is a need for research on this matter (where are the smileys when you need them)
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1297019]Nice details Mort, except for lack of detail about the ST hotel you used.
You mention Greenland. Do you mean "Queensland" or is there one called "Greenland"?
Where exactly is this new place you were taken to. Surely you remember some of the details?
Anybody got any up to date intel on ST hotels around or near Mango (Gen Maxilom Ave)? It seems the scene has changed over the past couple of years. I only knew Queensland (a dump) and SOGO.[/QUOTE]There are four Queensland hotels in and around Cebu City. The 'dump' Queensland that you visited is very likely one of the Queensland hotels located on the corner of lower Mango and Soriano Avenue.
The newest Queensland is on V. Rama. It's clean and busy in the evening.
[QUOTE=Mortman;1297028]Can't remember the name RK I had been without sleep for nearly 48 hours but I will find out before I leave. I remember the taxi heading off from Mango Square heading in the opposite direction to the Queensland (not Greenland. Sorry). The taxi went along Escario Street towards the direction of the Elizabeth Hotel that is about all I can remember. The hotel had a cafeteria on the 1st floor and it all seemed very new. The road it is on is quiet, not much development there and I recognised the area as I have been down it befor in taxis. It was very clean LCD TV in the room showing porn, and not bad for 260. I have used both the Sogo and Queensland and this is more convenient and the area not as seedy. The others thing I remember was the taxi fare was exactly 65 pesos. Hope this can help one of our other members to identify the place for you RK[/QUOTE]The hotel you describe sounds alot like Diamond Suites. Cafeteria / resto as you walk in, flat scren TV's and the hotel is fairly new (opened a few yrs ago). Last time I heard they do not accept short time stays but that could have changed. Porn playing on the TV? Hmm, maybe you can remember a few more details about the location that would help to narrow the search.
After my disaster encounter at SM Mall last night (see the chat rooms and pen pals thread) , I went for some food and decided to walk back from SM to the Waterfront. It was about 10pm and on the way I decided to head down Archbishop Reyes Avenue, to one of the several streets that run off the main highway on the East side of the road called Cavantan Street. This area although situated right in the heart of Cebu City, rarely has foreigners frequent the place, it is mainly comprised of slum dwellings and low quality shops and even lower quality eateries. I called by to see if the relatives of my girl friend were still there, but it seems they had moved somewhere else. I got chatting to a couple of their old neighbours who introduced me to their extended family, two of whom were young mothers aged 14 and 15, clutching a tiny baby each and wearing shabby vests, baggy shorts and worn sandals that had lone seen better days. They are living a hand to mouth existence with absolutely zero opportunity in life to ever better themselves and it never ceases to sadden me how this constant cycle of injustice, repeats itself over and over again. I gave the two young moms a couple of hundred pesos each, an insignificant amount of money to me but it will transform their lives at least for a day or two.
I headed back towards the Waterfront Hotel and decided to call in at the Sunflower, it was past 11pm and I thought I would call in for a drink. I wa shocked to find the place a derelict building site, at least what I could make out of it in the darkness. Locals tell me it is undergoing refurbishment, but it looked more like demolition to me.
Headed back to my hotel and as I was walking along the main thoroughfare inside the hotel with the restaraunts on either side, I saw a couple of girls sat on one of the benches. We made eye contact and both girls smiled. I sat down next to them and we got chatting. Seems both girls were on the look out for a foreigner and both offered to come to my room. I declined the offer but agreed to take the prettier and younger one with me and I asked her how much she wanted."3000" came her reply, so I smiled sweetly and told her she was way too expensive and went to bed to sleep alone. I was too tired to negotiate and to be honest it was sleep on my mind at that point and not sex.
I am now at Country Mall sitting in an internet cafe and typing this report and waiting for my next date to finish work. She is a cute sales promo girl aged 21 working in the department store here and is dying to meet me after work. Life is hard here but one has to make do!
[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1297291]There are four Queensland hotels in and around Cebu City. The 'dump' Queensland that you visited is very likely one of the Queensland hotels located on the corner of lower Mango and Soriano Avenue.
The newest Queensland is on V. Rama. It's clean and busy in the evening.[/QUOTE]Thanks Stroker. Yes that's the "dump" Queensland; the one on lower Mango past the Gorordo Street junction (Joilbee on one corner).
I am glad Queensland have something new on V Rama.
It seems I really stirred up the detectives / bloodhounds by asking Mort for more details about the ST place to which he was dragged (though not kicking and screaming I guess) by a wanton woman.
Pity WR isn't in Cebu right now or he would get his flunkies onto the problem and have the address of this mysterious ST place sorted out in no time.
Keep us posted here. Some of us need to know.
[QUOTE=Mortman;1297421]I headed back towards the Waterfront Hotel and decided to call in at the Sunflower, it was past 11pm and I thought I would call in for a drink. I wa shocked to find the place a derelict building site, at least what I could make out of it in the darkness. Locals tell me it is undergoing refurbishment, but it looked more like demolition to me.[/QUOTE]Mort. You must have missed the discussion on this thread about 8 weeks ago (I cannot find the series of posts) about Sunflower being demolished to make way for something quite different to its original use.
I had some good times in the Sunflower, but not surprised that it was finally put out of its misery
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1297438]Pity WR isn't in Cebu right now or he would get his flunkies onto the problem and have the address of this mysterious ST place sorted out in no time.
Keep us posted here. Some of us need to know.[/QUOTE]Soon RK. It had already crossed my mind as a good worthwhile and educational research project LOL One I will enjoy to the full. But is anyone else finds it sooner please let us know (or if Mortman can finally get his brain cells into order LOL)
[QUOTE=Mortman;1297028]Can't remember the name RK I had been without sleep for nearly 48 hours but I will find out before I leave. I remember the taxi heading off from Mango Square heading in the opposite direction to the Queensland (not Greenland. Sorry). The taxi went along Escario Street towards the direction of the Elizabeth Hotel that is about all I can remember. The hotel had a cafeteria on the 1st floor and it all seemed very new. The road it is on is quiet, not much development there and I recognised the area as I have been down it befor in taxis. It was very clean LCD TV in the room showing porn, and not bad for 260. I have used both the Sogo and Queensland and this is more convenient and the area not as seedy. The others thing I remember was the taxi fare was exactly 65 pesos. Hope this can help one of our other members to identify the place for you RK[/QUOTE]Sounds like
[url]http://westgorordohotel.multiply.com/[/url]
[QUOTE=Frenzy3; 1297492]Sounds like.
[url]http://westgorordohotel.multiply.com/[/url][/QUOTE]I doubt it Frenzy.
He said he paid 260 php for a ST romp.
I couldn't imagine this place, advertised as a businessman's hotel close to the Business Park, would be hosting hookers and clients as well with porn on the TV.
He also said it was on a quiet street. Gorordo Street is never quiet, even at 4 am.
The direction and cafe on the upper floor, there is a new building just finished near there, so they could have changed rates, I posted the link to see if he helped him to remember, Strange that no one else knows this new Place as Cebu does not change that fast.
For me Queensland vrama and valley front are the best for mango bars / pickups, I use to like the crown in Guadalupe, but valley front wins now they have renovated.
As for the street it is "quiet" at 4 am and there is a bikini bar close to there.
[QUOTE=Frenzy3; 1297512]The direction and cafe on the upper floor, there is a new building just finished near there, so they could have changed rates, I posted the link to see if he helped him to remember, Strange that no one else knows this new Place as Cebu does not change that fast.
For me Queensland vrama and valley front are the best for mango bars / pickups, I use to like the crown in Guadalupe, but valley front wins now they have renovated.
As for the street it is "quiet" at 4 am and there is a bikini bar close to there.[/QUOTE]Guys.
I will make it my mission to locate this place before I leave Cebu. Frenzy I checked out your link and pretty sure it wasn't that place though I could be wrong. As I said I was almost dropping with exhaustion at that point as I was almost two days without sleep and what little blood I had in my brain was being diverted elsewhere at the time (smiley)
Gents.
I didn't realise my lack of attention and oblivious state of mind to my whereabouts the other night, would generate such controversy!
I found the short time hotel and I actually went there on my way back to my hotel from Mango Square tonight. I asked a couple of the working girls in Mango for the name of the place and called in to get a business card. Firstly let me apologise in advance since my original recollection of the route was a bit muddled, I mentioned driving along Escario Street but now I realise that was after leaving the hotel and not before.
Anyway the name of the place is the ValleyFront, it seems to be as I said much nearer to Mango Square than the Queensland and the short time rate was 260. It is not only cheaper than the Queensland but it is in better condition and more convenient.
The full address is Happy Valley Road, corner of V. Rama Ave.
[url]www.valleyfronthotel.com[/url]
Tel (+63-32) 255-9987
[QUOTE=Mortman; 1297559]Anyway the name of the place is the ValleyFront, it seems to be as I said much nearer to Mango Square than the Queensland and the short time rate was 260. It is not only cheaper than the Queensland but it is in better condition and more convenient.
The full address is Happy Valley Road, corner of V. Rama Ave.
[url]www.valleyfronthotel.com[/url][/QUOTE]Mystery solved. WR can relax now. I will have to check it out soon. Thanks Mort for getting it sorted. Frenzy was close and actually mentioned it without realising it was the place in question
[QUOTE=Red Kilt;1297684]Mystery solved. WR can relax now. I will have to check it out soon. Thanks Mort for getting it sorted. Frenzy was close and actually mentioned it without realising it was the place in question[/QUOTE]It is up the road from queensland and he said they went the other way, i did mention it the only one i know that has been renovated . Still it the best one this side of cebu
Mortman a good hotel find is just as good as finding a great girl, at least with the hotel you can share it with any one.
Ended up back at the Queensland yesterday with a DIA contact and her friend. The older one aged 22 was content to watch TV whilst I enjoyed myself with the younger one aged 19. The older of the two was a DIA chat buddy and she introduced me to the younger girl when they met me at Ayalla yesterday. After the deed was done I gave the girl 1000 as previosly agreed and settled the bill which seems to have increased in price recently to 350 (or did I count my change properly?). They wanted to ride the taxi out to the street and once I was alone and heading back to the hotel the older girl started texting asking for commission. Told her she should have mentioned that when we met.
Ayalla Mall today was very quiet, I saw the most amazing sight today a group of foreigners all apparently (from the look of them) from the same family. The oldest guy was huge, with an enormous bald head, a face like a bulldog chewing a wasp and set with a permanent aggresive looking scowl. His bald head was covered in a large tatoo and he was accompanied by what I guess was his adult son, shuffling along on crutches, equally big in size to his father and sporting a cropped mohican hair style hair cut. They were acompanied by an entourage of other foreigner and pinay misfits who looked equally attractive as their male counterparts. I wouldn't like to meet any of them on a dark night thats for sure and it was funny just sitting back and watching the reaction from the locals as they all trundled along the terrace this afternoon.
I was nearly prey to three LBs this afternoon as I walked inside from the terrace outside Bo's, I had a lucky escape. Walking three abreast they eyeballed me straight away, like three hungry lionesses on an African plain with an injured gazelle in their sights. I deliberately did not make eye contact this time and as the gap closed I saw them deliberately move towards me in an effort to bump into me and grab my attention. I deftly moved to the right at the last minute before the impending impact and continued on my way as if nothing had happened. I found it all quite amusing and I did not turn round to see their reaction, sometimes their persistence can be downright annoying.
[QUOTE=Mortman;1297838]The oldest guy was huge, with an enormous bald head, a face like a bulldog chewing a wasp[/QUOTE]That line, Mort. I'm warning you right now, I'm stealing it and claiming it for my own.
And, oh how I miss Ayala and its cast of constantly amazing characters.
[QUOTE=Polyorchid; 1297840]That line, Mort. I'm warning you right now, I'm stealing it and claiming it for my own.
And, oh how I miss Ayala and its cast of constantly amazing characters.[/QUOTE]I cannot claim to be the original author of that expression since it is commonly used saying in the UK especially in the North of England
Keep it coming, Are you going to CDO this trip? I know you go north also. Just remember there are many here in the world who have to work. But can still live thru the storys of others.
I am still curious about your older girlfreind with the kids who comes to town to be with you sometimes. I remeber in thread you wondering if it was you or the support. Trust me many of us wonder the same thing. And it is hard to deny when many say it is always about the money. They all seem to prove that at some time.
Glad you and Frenzy worked it out. I met him last time there. Went to his house, Was offered dinner and met his five year trusted girl freind and many others. He is Assuie, Me Yank and You Briit. As you mention often. But we share culture and mongering. Besides God what else is there. RIGHT.
Have fun, I do like the way you tell your trip report. I do the some type of things you do. But do not know how to express the story and the feelings, confussion, life the way you do. Always like when you detour down an alley to the squatters area and how you relate the experince. The only time in those areas I feel worried is when the Pinoys are drunk. I do not drink. In A / A and have to deal with a drunk who wants me to drink coconut wine with him. Trust me I have drank Ketchup wine so that is not it. But Drunks do stupid things. And I know in RP the Kano will be at fault. So I move on. Most Koreans in the disco seem to mellow when drinking. But Pinoys become aggresive. Or lots do.
A
[QUOTE=Redman69;1298154][SNIP] Most Koreans in the disco seem to mellow when drinking. But Pinoys become aggresive. Or lots do.[/QUOTE]From my observations and discussions with a few disco owners and the occasional bouncer I have found the opposite is true. Koreans drink and often pick fights with locals and bouncers. They look down on the entire nation of the Philippines. When they are sober they hide there disgust but get them drunk and most become serious A-holes.
Locals are far more likely to be mellow drunks. They smile and joke and sing off-key kareoke versions of britney spears or charice. For the most part they are not too agressive as long as you do not insult someone and you pay for a few drinks. Of course YMMV as always.
I've seen some pretty aggressive Filipino drunks and some mellow Koreans. And I've certainly seen some white Western guys who seem to look down on the whole country. I don't think it's healthy to generalize / stereotype this way. THe a-holes will be a-holes, you can see it by their behavior, not by their ethnic origin.
[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1298257]From my observations and discussions with a few disco owners and the occasional bouncer I have found the opposite is true. Koreans drink and often pick fights with locals and bouncers. They look down on the entire nation of the Philippines. When they are sober they hide there disgust but get them drunk and most become serious A-holes.
Locals are far more likely to be mellow drunks. They smile and joke and sing off-key kareoke versions of britney spears or charice. For the most part they are not too agressive as long as you do not insult someone and you pay for a few drinks. Of course YMMV as always.[/QUOTE]
It really depends where you hang out and the reputation of the place, Juliana, j ave use to have gang fights there between locals, then it was Koreans causing trouble, then whites now I never go there. Pump 1 has the rude arrogant drunk Korean. Any street has bad local drunks, the videooke you find the mellow local drunk.
On the whole the low class Korean students in Cebu treat the locals pretty bad.
Thank god never heard about Indians causing trouble in PH, with the tag of 5-6 bombai loan sharks and the irresistible curry smell that filipina and rest of the world hates, that would be the last tag we would need. Curry smelling drunk loan sharks causing trouble in PH. May be because of our smell no one wants to fight us LOL.
I was chatting with one of my older dates who moved to Qatar last week and was shocked by the number of Indians and bad odour, she says, even the girls stink and was finding it very hard to adjust. I had already warned her about that and now she hates all Indians and I doubt I will get laid when she returns next year.
It does not matter, you know you stink and use deo and perfume. As soon as you say Indian, they think of smell. Now, I have devised a pre-emtive strike to nullify it. When they ask me. Where I'm from. I Say. I'm Indian and I do not stink.
Thanks for the appreciation, I usually go over to CDO but I am giving it a miss this time and returning to Thailand next week. I haven't been to Thailand for a few years but spent a couple days in BKK before I arrived here. There seems to be an ever increasing gulf between the prices in Thailand and here, of course with the Philippines winning hands down in terms of value for money.
My own currency has taken a pounding against the baht, it was not so long ago I was getting 90 baht to the pound and now I am only getting around 45. 50.
As for my regular gf it is a long story but I am not seeing her this time around. I have been financially supporting her and her kids for the last four years but that is all over now after a stunt she pulled last weekend. She made up the most incredible and elaborate lie and without going into details here, she nearly ruined my entire trip. I am the first to admit I am not perfect, but I have always been honest with her and this recent incident has soured our relationship somewhat.
After my disaster at Chuva Chuva the other night I made my way over to Mango Square. I paid my 100 baht had my hand stamped and went to the bar where I ordered my drink. Lots of girls around and got propositioned a couple of times. In fact one girl was really persistent, very very short and not really my type, she constantly kept coming over to the bar and pressing her ass into my crotch, gyrating to the music. She was so persistent that in the end I took hold of her shoulders and pushed her gently away.
I saw two girls the shorter one was cute but she was with a taller girl who looked like she was Japanese. Not the normal shape or size of most Filipinas, she was quite tall and actually what I would call big boned, but not in any way fat. Her face was incredibly beautiful and she seemed completely aloof to everyone around her. She actually turned away from a couple of guys who were eyeballing her from the bar and she seemed content to stand and watch her friend who was bobbing up and down wildly to the music next to her.
Anyway nothing like a good challenge I thought as I moved in and offered to buy her and her friend a drink. Turns out she was Filipino and I spent around 45 minutes chatting with her and her friend and listening to the music. It was quite late by now at least for me and after the disappointment in Chuva Chuva, I needed some relief. So I asked the Japanese looking girl outright would she come back with me.
She shouted something to her friend and then told me she would come with me later but I was not in a mood to wait, though I could not convince her to come. I then spoke to her friend and told her that her friend won't come back with me and as I am tired I am leaving. The friend told me to wait and leaned over to her friend whispering to each other. The friend of the girl I wanted then came over to me and said "you do realise that most of the girls in here need financial help" and I replied "of course I am happy with that" Anyway we spent a couple more minutes chatting and I decided on the spur of the moment to invite both girls back. Although it was understood I was paying, we had not discussed prices at all.
Got back to the room and both girls decided to help themselves to the mini bar."ouch" I was thinking "this is going to be expensive" As it happens they only had one beer each which wasn't too bad.
I wanted the Japanese looking girl first so told her to take a shower whilst I played with her friend. We didn't get up to too much just kissing and touching. This girl then went for a shower whilst the Japanese looking girl called Audrey returned naked but wrapped in a towel. She began giving me the most remarkable BBBJ to the point where I had to pull her off as I was in danger of climaxing too quickly. She licked and sucked my balls, kissed and licked beneath my balls and moved up the shaft of my cock to take me in her mouth, using her tongue like a true expert. The other girl had come back from her shower and made herself busy sucking my nipples and French kissing me. I then flipped Audrey on to her back removing her towel to reveal a body that was just built for fucking, no fat, long legs and a neatly trimmed pussy with smallish tits and nipples. I began fucking her, and listening to her gasp and groan with her friend watching intently, the whole experience had me exploding in no time.
I was still hard and Bea asked me was I using Viagra, to which I truthfully replied "no". I had however slipped a cialis pill down secretively as we initially arrived in the room.
It was Bea's turn now and she proceeded to suck me off even though I had not cleaned up with my session with her friend. Audrey did not participate this time and sat on the floor watching TV. I began fucking Bea but in all honesty could not manage another pop though I was enjoying myself. In the end I called it a day and rolled off her still hard. Bea wanted to stay all night but Audrey was already getting dressed. I preferred a good nights sleep so asked both girls to leave, in any case it was Audrey that I really liked and she seemed keen not to hang around. It was about 3.30am and my guess is that both girls went back to Mango Square to find some more business, who knows and who really cares. Since prices had not been previously discussed I figured 1500 each was more than enough and both girls seemed happy with this amount. I must admit afterwards I wondered if I should have just paid 1000 each, but since I had a great time I figured it was worth it.
I hope to see these two girls again, they performed really well and all in all a great experience I didn't take their numbers which I now regret.
[QUOTE=Mortman;1298024]I cannot claim to be the original author of that expression since it is commonly used saying in the UK especially in the North of England[/QUOTE]I was told to find the wise words of Mortman, as I am weighing up the pros and cons of visiting Cebu or South America.
I would be very grateful if you could advise me on a few things as you seem to have a lot of knowledge on Cebu, I'm not sure where else you may have visited, but if you have visited South America, Colombia in particular, that would be a bonus.
Below is a link to the page where I posted, I believe there are 3 posts, if you find any time, take a read and reply on here and let me know if you can.
Thank you.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?578-General-Info[/url]
Scroll down to #3550 for the first post cheers!
There are quite a few members who post here that probably can give you a better insight than me into Cebu, as some of them live here. I am on vacation in Cebu at the moment and haven't got time to start reading back through your posts to give you the answers you need, it is hard enough finding time to add my own posts.
Or you could retry posting your questions, but please do try and do some research first there is a ton of information already posted but it does take a lot of time and effort to do so.
I personally have never been to South America, the furthest I ever got there was Mexico, so sorry I cannot be of any help to you there.
I don't mean to sound unhelpful I just want to enjoy my time here without wasting time going back to find your posts, read through them and compose answers.
Good Luck.
M
[QUOTE=Mortman;1298531]I hope to see these two girls again, they performed really well and all in all a great experience I didn't take their numbers which I now regret.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report. Yes, get their number or Facebook contact etc etc asap, it seems the way you described, she was perfect. Besides, she was been approached many times by other guys as well. In my experience, non-filipina looking but filipina nonetheless with other Asian / European feature girls don't stay in the market for long, they move on, never to be caught again. Its just once in a while we encounter these species. It seems local Filipino dudes too are after them.
Your post brought back memories of my encounter with a Japanese looking Filipina girl, who was incredibly beautiful, her father was japanese though, her mother worked in japan then came back to PH (presumably, she would have been a WG there) and she had been to Japan few times, and could speak good japanese, In my naivety, as it was my first trip to PH, I thought these kinda girls are a norm rather than exception in PH.
I didn't bother asking her number etc and I still regret to this day, she was a keeper, I did everything possible to get her back after realizing, these kinda girls are rare in PH. But alas, she was gone for ever.
Wonderful report, but how do you chat with anyone in that bar?
Even my inners were vibrating
[QUOTE=SwagMeOut; 1298639]I was told to find the wise words of Mortman, as I am weighing up the pros and cons of visiting Cebu or South America.
I would be very grateful if you could advise me on a few things as you seem to have a lot of knowledge on Cebu, I'm not sure where else you may have visited, but if you have visited South America, Colombia in particular, that would be a bonus.
Below is a link to the page where I posted, I believe there are 3 posts, if you find any time, take a read and reply on here and let me know if you can.
Thank you.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?578-General-Info[/url]
Scroll down to #3550 for the first post cheers![/QUOTE]I had a quick look and I have never been to south America, the one guy I know who has been to both said he prefers Thailand, no one can decide for you where you are going to be happy. You also have not posted really what you want, at 24 I would visit here as I wish I came here at 24 I would have moved earlier.
If you like the drugs then skip Asia, my friend likes his drugs but still preferred Asia.
I LIVE in South America and spend a couple of months each year in Asia, mostly in Cebu.
[QUOTE=Frenzy3; 1298964]I had a quick look and I have never been to south America, the one guy I know who has been to both said he prefers Thailand, no one can decide for you where you are going to be happy. You also have not posted really what you want, at 24 I would visit here as I wish I came here at 24 I would have moved earlier.
If you like the drugs then skip Asia, my friend likes his drugs but still preferred Asia.[/QUOTE]I don't know if you read the right posts, they were very lengthy and detailed. To keep it short and sweet, I prefer Latinas.
However.
I want to visit somewhere I get the most for my money, cheapest hotels & women, that's of decent quality or better, with a good white sandy beach clear seas. Somewhere you can live like a king, get good p*ssy, and have a nice beach to kick back on.
It's out of Colombia & Costa Rica or Cebu.
Bear in mind I'm British so the currency is ore favourable than the American dollar so to speak. For three weeks I'll have around 4,000$
[QUOTE=David_33;1298985]I LIVE in South America and spend a couple of months each year in Asia, mostly in Cebu.[/QUOTE]Oh wait I know you too, but we never talk about mongering out side cebu so you never told me what you prefer?
Sorry Frenzy, my comment was directed at SwagMeOut I should have mentioned that. I'm sure my point is clear.
[QUOTE=David_33;1299117]Sorry Frenzy, my comment was directed at SwagMeOut I should have mentioned that. I'm sure my point is clear.[/QUOTE]Probably the best person to talk to then. Where in South America do you live? What would you say is the price difference between Cebu and SA? If I'm looking for a beautiful beach, cheap food and hotels (to an extent, I want a nice 4 star to a 5 star, but out of the cheaper ones) and best placed to do other things along side mongering? I'm once again considering Thailand, but I preferred Philippines because they speak english.
[QUOTE=SwagMeOut;1299393]Probably the best person to talk to then. Where in South America do you live? What would you say is the price difference between Cebu and SA? If I'm looking for a beautiful beach, cheap food and hotels (to an extent, I want a nice 4 star to a 5 star, but out of the cheaper ones) and best placed to do other things along side mongering? I'm once again considering Thailand, but I preferred Philippines because they speak english.[/QUOTE]Pay the fee and use pm, we do not need to know publicly what works for you, most of us are going to stick to asia,
[QUOTE=Frenzy3;1299546]Pay the fee and use pm,[/QUOTE]Yes, please collaborate with Jackson and pay him his $19. 95. It is a good investment. [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/payments.php?[/url]
[QUOTE=Frenzy3;1299546]Pay the fee and use pm, we do not need to know publicly what works for you, most of us are going to stick to asia,[/QUOTE]This is a forum where people share information, publicly or not, on there experiences and advice for fellow users. In case you haven't noticed. Everyone is doing it all over ISG. Please do NOT single me out for something the majority of people do, and signed up for. Publicly asking and replying to questions helps me as well as others. If someone chooses not to answer me, that is there choice, not yours. No need to be rude.
[QUOTE=SwagMeOut;1299393]Probably the best person to talk to then. Where in South America do you live? What would you say is the price difference between Cebu and SA? If I'm looking for a beautiful beach, cheap food and hotels (to an extent, I want a nice 4 star to a 5 star, but out of the cheaper ones) and best placed to do other things along side mongering? I'm once again considering Thailand, but I preferred Philippines because they speak english.[/QUOTE]SMO,
Dear Sir can you please RTFF. It would save alot of time if you did your own research and narrowed down your choices and asked specific questions. Your posts sound highly unrealistic and to me (I could be wrong) this seems like your first International excursion and probably your first sortie into the monger realm.
Just to clarify things. Cebu does not have white sand close to the city. You will have to travel 1. 5hrs+ outside of Cebu City to places like Moalboal, Bantayan Island ect or take a fast craft ferry to Bohol to find a nice beach. Most of those places are usually BYOG.
For an Internationally rated 4 or 5 star resort around Cebu expect to pay 100-400USD+ per night for a resort located on the water with some sand. Only a handful of real 4 and 5 star resorts around Cebu. If you want to stay at a resort on the cheap expect to pay 60-100USD per night for something that even some locals will refuse to stay at.
Enjoy Cebu, but looking at your long list of absolutely picture perfect paradise prerequisites, Cebu is not for you.
You have a vision in your head of all the wonderful things waiting for you. The sexy women who will do anything you want at the drop of a hat and only demand a kiss as payment. There are the pure unspoiled white sand beaches. There are the amazing resorts that cater to your every whim and request. They have a crystal clear pool, amazing turquioise water all around the resort with no other guests in sight. A room with a huge king sized bed flat screen and a glass shower in the cr that fits four comfortably. The rate is 20USD per night! The front desk staff always tell you how sorry they are for overcharging and provide you with endless free drinks to help ease your pain. As you sit under the shade of a large tree on the beach you have one filipina feed you fruit and two more give you a nice slow body massage. Hmm, this can be had in the Philippines? YES it's out there. Just be prepared to pay ALOT for it.
The reality of your trip is something closer to this. You arrive at the airport and step off the plane. The AC in the terminal is not working and you are sweating buckets. You wait for a taxi and the driver 'forgets' to turn on his meter and suddenly the taxi ride that should of been 150p becomes 500p. You arrive at the hotel and your room smells like mould and there are no fresh towels. The view from the hotel is a concrete wall of the next building. The DIA girl who seemed so into you on the internet isn't returning your calls and when you finally talk to her she tells you her auntie needs her to babysit and she is unavailable. The same kind of result from DIA girls number two, three and four. When you step out on the streets of Cebu you are shocked at all the garbage, street kids, pollution and fast food outlets. You finally get a DIA contact to come stay with you and she bangs you silly. Just what you needed! You decide to switch hotels to a resort on a beach the next day. You book and pay for a 5 day stay in advance but your girl reveals the first night she is now on her period and she wants her family members to come swim for the day and stay for the buffet dinner. She explains it's just three family members and you give the ok to your girl, but fourteen people show up.
While all those things might not happen to you, they are all real possibilities. Adjust your expectations. Strongly suggest you RTFF and find a few posts by members who recently made there first trips to the places you want to visit. See if there expectations became reality or if there trip turned into something very different.
[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1299926]SMO,
Dear Sir can you please RTFF. It would save alot of time if you did your own research and narrowed down your choices and asked specific questions. Your posts sound highly unrealistic and to me (I could be wrong) this seems like your first International excursion and probably your first sortie into the monger realm.
Just to clarify things. Cebu does not have white sand close to the city. You will have to travel 1. 5hrs+ outside of Cebu City to places like Moalboal, Bantayan Island ect or take a fast craft ferry to Bohol to find a nice beach. Most of those places are usually BYOG.
For an Internationally rated 4 or 5 star resort around Cebu expect to pay 100-400USD+ per night for a resort located on the water with some sand. Only a handful of real 4 and 5 star resorts around Cebu. If you want to stay at a resort on the cheap expect to pay 60-100USD per night for something that even some locals will refuse to stay at.
Enjoy Cebu, but looking at your long list of absolutely picture perfect paradise prerequisites, Cebu is not for you.
You have a vision in your head of all the wonderful things waiting for you. The sexy women who will do anything you want at the drop of a hat and only demand a kiss as payment. There are the pure unspoiled white sand beaches. There are the amazing resorts that cater to your every whim and request. They have a crystal clear pool, amazing turquioise water all around the resort with no other guests in sight. A room with a huge king sized bed flat screen and a glass shower in the cr that fits four comfortably. The rate is 20USD per night! The front desk staff always tell you how sorry they are for overcharging and provide you with endless free drinks to help ease your pain. As you sit under the shade of a large tree on the beach you have one filipina feed you fruit and two more give you a nice slow body massage. Hmm, this can be had in the Philippines? YES it's out there. Just be prepared to pay ALOT for it.
The reality of your trip is something closer to this. You arrive at the airport and step off the plane. The AC in the terminal is not working and you are sweating buckets. You wait for a taxi and the driver 'forgets' to turn on his meter and suddenly the taxi ride that should of been 150p becomes 500p. You arrive at the hotel and your room smells like mould and there are no fresh towels. The view from the hotel is a concrete wall of the next building. The DIA girl who seemed so into you on the internet isn't returning your calls and when you finally talk to her she tells you her auntie needs her to babysit and she is unavailable. The same kind of result from DIA girls number two, three and four. When you step out on the streets of Cebu you are shocked at all the garbage, street kids, pollution and fast food outlets. You finally get a DIA contact to come stay with you and she bangs you silly. Just what you needed! You decide to switch hotels to a resort on a beach the next day. You book and pay for a 5 day stay in advance but your girl reveals the first night she is now on her period and she wants her family members to come swim for the day and stay for the buffet dinner. She explains it's just three family members and you give the ok to your girl, but fourteen people show up.
While all those things might not happen to you, they are all real possibilities. Adjust your expectations. Strongly suggest you RTFF and find a few posts by members who recently made there first trips to the places you want to visit. See if there expectations became reality or if there trip turned into something very different.[/QUOTE]Good advice.
If you want the beach go to BORACAY. Despite what people say there is action to be had there but you will need to go look for it at Station 1. What you want is to stay at Station 2 but go out at bars / discos around Station 1 where lots of locals and local tourists hang around.
[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1299926]SMO,
Dear Sir can you please RTFF. It would save alot of time if you did your own research and narrowed down your choices and asked specific questions. Your posts sound highly unrealistic and to me (I could be wrong) this seems like your first International excursion and probably your first sortie into the monger realm.
Just to clarify things. <<<SNIP [/QUOTE]LMAO.
I hope SMO can read between the lashings of irony served up in your post Stroker. I agree with much of your post.
The vision (fantasy) of 20 USD in the 5th parag is more likely to be 200 USD ++ for that sort of idyll. I hope he understands that.
[QUOTE=SwagMeOut;1299901]This is a forum where people share information, publicly or not, on there experiences and advice for fellow users. In case you haven't noticed. Everyone is doing it all over ISG. Please do NOT single me out for something the majority of people do, and signed up for. Publicly asking and replying to questions helps me as well as others. If someone chooses not to answer me, that is there choice, not yours. No need to be rude.[/QUOTE]I am not an expert on either Colombia or Cebu but those are my main hunting grounds these days. PI has Manila, AC and Cebu, those are the places I am familiar (excluding Manila). AC and Cebu are not beach towns but have beach towns nearby. AC has Puerta Galera and Cebu has Bantayan, Bohol and Moatball. I have been to both Bantayan (definitely BYOG) and Puerto Galera, (has it's own bar scene, no need to BYOG). There are lots of reports on these places so you should find them and take notes. Both these places (PG and Bantayan) are special places worth a visit of a few days, no longer than that for me.
AC is the Costco of bars and sex, w / easy pickings for any guy. To me though the ladies are average, in the 5, 6.7 category. The stunners are hard to find but fun to hunt for, nonetheless. BF prices in the bars from $25 up to who knows. Should be happy for the night for around $60 for 1 lady. Puerta Galera is a 2 hr. Bus / 2 hr. Boat ride away (4 hrs. Total) worth the effort. It's a divers paradise w / a small quaint beach town feel (Sabang). The bargirls there are warm and friendly and I heard the prices have gone up. Lots of little beaches to go to by renting a boat w / a driver for about $20/30 for a 1/2 day.
Cebu has the lookers IMO. There are fewer places to hunt but both times I have been to Cebu I have been impressed w / the cebuanas. The prices are higher than in AC, last November 2000p BF plus tip for a bargirl but they were hot looking stunners for the most part. One problem w / Cebu is the Korean guys get special treatment and it can get in the way of the fun, but I had no problem getting what I wanted eventually. So that's about all I have time for, you should find the numerous reports and they should have all the info you need. Bantayan is a 2 hr drive / 1, 5 hr boat ride away. Inexpensive resorts there w / vacany's, it is a pristine gorgeous island, must BYOG.
As for Colombia. The language issue is VERY large and I have been studying now for almost 2 years. Once I have the ability to converse easily w / the Colombianas I am not sure where I will want to go for fun. The Colombianas are spectacular looking and can handle themselves in a party atmosphere much better. You give a filipina 4 drinks and she will throw up and pass out. The Colombiana can drink you under the table and then REALLY FUCK YOUR BRAINS OUT. If I could only go to one place it would be Colombia, easy decision.
The cost on the ground in both Colombia and PI are (in my experience) very similar. In an AC BJ bar what, $15 for a 5 to blow you. In a Colombian Casa. 30 minutes (w / an 8 or 9) $18, w / a beer $19. 50. Very similar EXCEPT to the eye. In Colombia, $18 to fuck a beautiful model and that's why I am so freaking happy all the time. Hahahahaha heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Just trying to help.
What happened to your PM function? Pay Jackson or fix it please.
[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1299926]SMO,
Dear Sir can you please RTFF. It would save alot of time if you did your own research and narrowed down your choices and asked specific questions. Your posts sound highly unrealistic and to me (I could be wrong) this seems like your first International excursion and probably your first sortie into the monger realm.
Just to clarify things. Cebu does not have white sand close to the city. You will have to travel 1. 5hrs+ outside of Cebu City to places like Moalboal, Bantayan Island ect or take a fast craft ferry to Bohol to find a nice beach. Most of those places are usually BYOG.
For an Internationally rated 4 or 5 star resort around Cebu expect to pay 100-400USD+ per night for a resort located on the water with some sand. Only a handful of real 4 and 5 star resorts around Cebu. If you want to stay at a resort on the cheap expect to pay 60-100USD per night for something that even some locals will refuse to stay at.
Enjoy Cebu, but looking at your long list of absolutely picture perfect paradise prerequisites, Cebu is not for you.
You have a vision in your head of all the wonderful things waiting for you. The sexy women who will do anything you want at the drop of a hat and only demand a kiss as payment. There are the pure unspoiled white sand beaches. There are the amazing resorts that cater to your every whim and request. They have a crystal clear pool, amazing turquioise water all around the resort with no other guests in sight. A room with a huge king sized bed flat screen and a glass shower in the cr that fits four comfortably. The rate is 20USD per night! The front desk staff always tell you how sorry they are for overcharging and provide you with endless free drinks to help ease your pain. As you sit under the shade of a large tree on the beach you have one filipina feed you fruit and two more give you a nice slow body massage. Hmm, this can be had in the Philippines? YES it's out there. Just be prepared to pay ALOT for it.
The reality of your trip is something closer to this. You arrive at the airport and step off the plane. The AC in the terminal is not working and you are sweating buckets. You wait for a taxi and the driver 'forgets' to turn on his meter and suddenly the taxi ride that should of been 150p becomes 500p. You arrive at the hotel and your room smells like mould and there are no fresh towels. The view from the hotel is a concrete wall of the next building. The DIA girl who seemed so into you on the internet isn't returning your calls and when you finally talk to her she tells you her auntie needs her to babysit and she is unavailable. The same kind of result from DIA girls number two, three and four. When you step out on the streets of Cebu you are shocked at all the garbage, street kids, pollution and fast food outlets. You finally get a DIA contact to come stay with you and she bangs you silly. Just what you needed! You decide to switch hotels to a resort on a beach the next day. You book and pay for a 5 day stay in advance but your girl reveals the first night she is now on her period and she wants her family members to come swim for the day and stay for the buffet dinner. She explains it's just three family members and you give the ok to your girl, but fourteen people show up.
While all those things might not happen to you, they are all real possibilities. Adjust your expectations. Strongly suggest you RTFF and find a few posts by members who recently made there first trips to the places you want to visit. See if there expectations became reality or if there trip turned into something very different.[/QUOTE]That was a good post, and I'm sure no holds barred approach will help many others who stumble across this.
Yes I see that my expectations can be unrealistic, but no one is born with the knowledge that's why you come somewhere like here seeking it. I wasn't to know, obviously as you say yourself, there are places that serve up certain elements of what I'm looking for, and what you read and is promoted can give someone a skewed idea.
I have honestly done a lot of research, and sometimes it is difficult to find what you are looking for and can take time. You are right, it's my first monger tour, so I have questions. From what I've seen many people wanted to know the same thing, where a nice and the women were in the same place. Hey a vacation always better with a good beach no?
No intentions of going on DIA, rather the GoGo Bars / Massage Parlours / Brothels etc etc.
Like I said though, I've done a lot of research before I asked any questions, that's in my nature, I just like people to confirm what I know, or show me what I don't. As such Pattaya In Thailand sounds like a better place for me. Thanks for sharing the info.
[QUOTE=SwagMeOut;1299901]This is a forum where people share information, publicly or not, on there experiences and advice for fellow users. In case you haven't noticed. Everyone is doing it all over ISG. Please do NOT single me out for something the majority of people do, and signed up for. Publicly asking and replying to questions helps me as well as others. If someone chooses not to answer me, that is there choice, not yours. No need to be rude.[/QUOTE]I am not being rude but this is the Cebu forum, sorry that you think I am being rude when I mention you should pay the site $20 so people can pm you. If you do make it to Cebu you are not going to meet up with any one if we can not pm you. With the budget you are saying you will need to contact people as Cebu is not the cheapest town to visit a 4 star hotel will cost you $1500 for 3 weeks, girls and bar hops will be $2000 or more at$100 per night and that is cheap end of town. There are no beaches close to town, so enjoy patts, as I mentioned in my first reply to you.
From the AC thread.
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1301789]I never said AC does not have stunners. It does for sure, but they are rare and I have to admit that I have never bar fined an AC stunner. Which bars have stunners would make an excellent topic. I have found a couple 9*s in Golden Nile and Blue Nile Executive, Club Asia, and the big boys; Dolls House and Atlantis but for some reason or another I never could connect with them. I remember the first couple nights of my first trip to AC, when I hunted exclusively for the really hot girls; my results were not too good. Looking back, I am still not sure what the problem was, but when I recalibrated my target on the third night, I met with great success and that's the way it has been for me ever since. I now search AC almost exclusively for the nice looking, friendly, girl next door types and I am very satisfied with the results.
When I included Cebu in my list of destinations with stunners, I was specifically thinking of the lineup at Arena. Last time I was there in March, I was very impressed with the number of girls and the respectable percentage of real lookers at that nightclub. I can't put my finger on what the difference was (probably ethnic) , but the Arena girls looked different than the girls at AF1 or Pegasus in Manila, but still very attractive.
You are right that Macau is not comparable to AC in price and I also think in terms of quality. The Chinese super models in the top Saunas go for $200 to $275 for ST and a healthy number of them are really beautiful. On another level, Filipinas FL's hanging out in Macau bars like MP3 want $100 or more for LT and most of them are not very attractive at all, IMHO. But a stunner in AF1, Pegasus, or Arena is going to cost a huge sum. You can't walk out of Arena for example with a really hot girl for under 8000p. And the cost is higher at AF1 and Pegasus, so these joints with arguably the best looking P4P girls in the PI are comparable to Macau Saunas in terms of price and quality. MBC and FL's aside, Manila can be a very high priced place to play the game.
Once you make friends with a high priced girl from one of these nightclubs, you can easily make arrangements to see her again for a lot less $$$ and cut out the club. That's what I did with my little spinner I met at Arena. After the initial big barfine night (BF was 6000p) , I gave her around 2000p in gifts and money for our afternoon trysts. She was a real nice and very good looking girl. I am still in YahooM with her and plan to see her again sometime. Arena keeps a large chunk of her earnings and she was living in a dormitory with a bunch of other girls. She was eager to come with me to Palawan, but I was not sure at the time since I had only known her for a few days, so I left her in Cebu City. Next time, if all goes well, I might just take her to some beach.
Getting back to my original post, I am happy to accept AC for what it is and to have a real good time with the friendly, nice looking, but not spectacular girl next door type bar girls there. I go to Macau for the Chinese stunners (visa cards readily accepted) , to BKK for the variety including stunners (and because I love Thai girls) , and to Manila for better looking and very friendly English speaking Filipina girls.
I am going to be back in the big three: Macau, MNL, and BKK in less than 90 days. Unfortunately I will not be stopping by AC on this trip, but my itinerary includes Jakarta and Batam for the first time. It should be a real good trip. I will be spending 3 nights in Malate on the way in and 3 nights in Makati on the way out.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Frenzy3; 1301916]Infinity is another place for stunners, and the good old pump 1, which is just a pick up joint. Most of the stunners get bar fined pretty quick, so you do need to bar hop, you see some of the best girls with guests and you can go back early the next day.
Mc don you need to visit Cebu more, I have met guys who visit Cebu after AC and like what they see here, I find that the Cebu girls who go to AC are the ones who get banned from the bars and are not the number 1 girls they make too much money to do stupid stuff.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sirvladi; 1303458]Hey guys,
I am currently in Cebu and was in Viking yesterday. The girls told me that they don't barfine anymore due to a raid. Anyone else heard that? Is this only in Viking or in other bars as well?
Thanks[/QUOTE]Do you look asian? They get "raided" from time to time (often the cops hang out in there all night) and you have to meet the girl outside in the petrol station and pay her. If I get any info I will post here. See if there are some locals sitting at the end of the pool table next time you go there.
[QUOTE=Frenzy3;1303517]Do you look asian? They get "raided" from time to time (often the cops hang out in there all night) and you have to meet the girl outside in the petrol station and pay her. If I get any info I will post here. See if there are some locals sitting at the end of the pool table next time you go there.[/QUOTE]I am not Asian and there were a few locals hanging around. I don't know I'll try again maybe it was a bad night.
[QUOTE=SwagMeOut; 1299901]This is a forum where people share information, publicly or not.[/quote]OK, Swag, just pay the twenty bucks, man. This forum is probably the best annual investment any reasonable man could make. Sheeesh. If you don't have an extra $20how do ever expect to get laid, man? Peace.
The gal I talked to said she couldn't make any money with the new inconveniences, so she pulled out a napkin and wrote her contact info on it. She said she'd be happy to miss work the next day since she wasn't making money at the bar. (this is a generic report and not connected to the bar named earlier in this thread). Another bar seems to be taking advantage of the confusion with 2. 8k barfines.
I had a few phone numbers and dates set up before arrival so I wasn't really dependant on the bars. I guess a newbie might never come back though. Penny wise, pound foolish? Unfortunately, I got lazy and had a dia gal rip me off. Duh.
Although an earlier poster is right to suggest that locals in the bar might be causing some hesitation on the part of the bars, I think the bars are also realizing that some holy roller Westerner may be coming into the bars to snitch.
SOme of you remember the old Black Hole. The place has a new name (which I deliberately omit) and wow, there is a very small, skinny lady there with some really hefty boobs. So rare. She seems to prefer the smaller appendages offerred by East Asian customers, but given time, I would have found a way to have a go at her. X.
[QUOTE=Sirvladi;1303601]I am not Asian and there were a few locals hanging around. I don't know I'll try again maybe it was a bad night.[/QUOTE]
Hi guys,
I am going to Cebu in August and I am looking for a place to stay close to the beach and girl friendly. Can somebody give me some info.
El Cubanito
[QUOTE=El Cubanito; 1305042]Hi guys,
I am going to Cebu in August and I am looking for a place to stay close to the beach and girl friendly. Can somebody give me some info.
El Cubanito[/QUOTE]Am sure others will chip in but the better beaches are some way from the city and the more intersting attractions. You can visit the resorts (eg Plantation, Shangri La) for the day etc or go the resort in Danao but again a long way from Cebu City or those south of the city (2-3 hrs drive maybe)
If a beach is a must then thats my view but if a decent hotel with pool is also OK then you have more choices closed to the centre.
IMHO all hotels as GF so don't worry about that.
Other will am sure have some advice.
El C. Check you inbox also
i went to redlips and viking tonight and it was the usual biz, bar fines are still going on, redlips contact confirmed the before the bust there no **** where working so it sounds like a ngo setup, she did not deny that there was no **** at the bar that night so i wonder how they found the girl, the girl i know is 27 and most of the girls there are older quite a few are ex jaguar and the bust that closed that down they still remember, there was no girl i saw who even looked 18 there tonight unlike other bars i have seen in the past where korean go in big numbers.
viking had the usual police visits a few nights ago so they stopped bar fines, you could still get the girls out side if you wanted, it was back to normal tonight. it was mostly korean men.
in both places numbers of clients was down, very few guys spending money.
[quote=frenzy3; 1305164]i went to redlips and viking tonight and it was the usual biz, bar fines are still going on, redlips contact confirmed the before the bust there no **** where working so it sounds like a ngo setup, she did not deny that there was no **** at the bar that night so i wonder how they found the girl, the girl i know is 27 and most of the girls there are older quite a few are ex jaguar and the bust that closed that down they still remember, there was no girl i saw who even looked 18 there tonight unlike other bars i have seen in the past where korean go in big numbers.
viking had the usual police visits a few nights ago so they stopped bar fines, you could still get the girls out side if you wanted, it was back to normal tonight. it was mostly korean men.
in both places numbers of clients was down, very few guys spending money.[/quote]thanks for the info. viking, arena, sistar will be my first stop after arriving at cebu airport...i can't breathe with excitement all around...hehehe
I was wrong, they will not let you bar fine no more, they let me bar fine as I have been going there for years, another punter is in town and told me they said no to him, this happened before with arena last year, seems that it depends on the guy if they know you.
I was talking to a local police I know, he told me there is a increase of drug use with tourists here, he said expect to see some arrests, and if you do not pay the 200-500k fine expect to stay in jail. There are guys asking girls to get shabu and guys smoking pot in discos. The girls I have spoken to say the guys are not trusting them and they telling them to leave their phones and take jeepney etc, it only takes a girl to think fuck this I rather get some of the fine from the cops for reporting the guy, as the cops are offering finders fees.
You will be suprized how many undercover cops there are in cebu. So think twice before you start asking for illegal drugs.
I'm not fond of the over priced and man-made beaches at Mactan, but that might fit the bill if you need to be close to the city. There is a gaudy looking place that has recently been showing up on the online profiles of gals. I think the name is Imperial Palace. Has anyone been there?
Now, if you want to do an overnight with gal you might consider Panglao on Bohol or White beach near Moalboal. Both places are very attractive but need about three hours travel time.
I haven't visited, but in north Cebu Island the popular destinations are Bantayan and Malapasqua. Both islands.
Someone mentioned a resort at Danao, which is about an hour by taxi north of Cebu. There are some dumpy local places there, but there was one place that looked a bit upscale and had large flotation devices out in the water. I didn't visit and I don't know the name of the place.
X.
[QUOTE=El Cubanito; 1305042]Hi guys,
I am going to Cebu in August and I am looking for a place to stay close to the beach and girl friendly. Can somebody give me some info.
El Cubanito[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=X Man;1307123]I'm not fond of the over priced and man-made beaches at Mactan, but that might fit the bill if you need to be close to the city. There is a gaudy looking place that has recently been showing up on the online profiles of gals. I think the name is Imperial Palace. Has anyone been there?[/QUOTE]Imperial Palace is positioned mid-range when it comes to Mactan resorts. 100-250+$USD depending on where you book the hotel. Local rate is slightly lower. Rooms are smaller but clean. The hotel is a well-known destination for Koreans and depending on what time of year you visit, you might feel "invaded" as the locals call it. Five different pools and a waterpark including a few water slides. Alot of filipinas are excited to stay at Imperial Palace as word travels fast about the water park.
For the same rate you could book Crimson. IMO much better hotel and service level but price depends what room you book. If you really want to splurge book a private villa with a 'plunge pool' and enjoy skinny dipping under the stars.
The main pool at Crimson is not as nice as Imperial Palace.
So where do I post a field report? Here, or the General Information thread?
[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1308592]So where do I post a field report? Here, or the General Information thread?[/QUOTE]WC.
Many post in Cebu Travel Reports so try that thread.
To bozo-nuts in the hotel room next to me WTF is your problem?
Last night you came back to your room at 4am screaming your head off to your buddy about some BG. Your loud drunken rants were almost comical but for the fact it woke me and my GF up (and the rest of the guests on this floor).
"That fucken' bit*h! She wanted more money, always telling me it's not enough not enough not enough! Always telling me it's up to me! UP TO ME UP TO ME!" This went on for 20minutes. Loud drunken a-hole. Before security could arrive your buddy calmed you down and convinced you to go out looking for some pussy. At 430am on a Sunday night good luck. I fell back to sleep.
Now you are back in your room tonight. It's 1:20am. For the past hour or so my gf and I have been listening to you and a bakla argue over money. You told her to leave and she went into the hall then knocked on your door asking for forgiveness and you let her back in. This happened three times! Gesssuusss you are the hotel guest from hell. Now my GF has stopped watching her Filipino drama program and has the TV on mute with her ear against the wall giving me play by play of all the negotiations.
It's more fun in the Philippines. (insert eye-roll smiley here)
Thanks for the info. I checked Crimson website and it looks nice. I usually don't like to pay so much, but it might be nice for a special night with a special someone.
Thanks again, X.
[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1307141]Imperial Palace is positioned mid-range when it comes to Mactan resorts. 100-250+$USD depending on where you book the hotel. Local rate is slightly lower. Rooms are smaller but clean. The hotel is a well-known destination for Koreans and depending on what time of year you visit, you might feel "invaded" as the locals call it. Five different pools and a waterpark including a few water slides. Alot of filipinas are excited to stay at Imperial Palace as word travels fast about the water park.
For the same rate you could book Crimson. IMO much better hotel and service level but price depends what room you book. If you really want to splurge book a private villa with a 'plunge pool' and enjoy skinny dipping under the stars.
The main pool at Crimson is not as nice as Imperial Palace.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=X Man; 1348280]Thanks for the info. I checked Crimson website and it looks nice. I usually don't like to pay so much, but it might be nice for a special night with a special someone.
Thanks again, X.[/QUOTE]I heard through the bamboo vine that Crimson is not doing so well. Guests are down and you can snag a promo price if you book a week or more in advance. The resto on site has changed the menu and the hotel is trying to attract more affluent expats that live in Lapux2 and Cordova. Both hotel rooms and resto prices are over-priced maybe 30-40percent IMO, but that goes for most places that are geared to foreigners.
[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88;1348308]trying to attract more affluent expats that live in Lapux2 and Cordova. Both hotel rooms and resto prices are over-priced maybe 30-40percent IMO, but that goes for most places that are geared to foreigners.[/QUOTE]SA.
Are there affluent expats in Cordova. LOL Just I always think that part of town is not affluent based on a few ladies who are desperate to get out of the Cordova area.
As for the shouting and screaming in hotels. I find the pinoy families the worse, wake up at 5am, turn on the TV (very loud) , kids on rampage in the corridor, can't hold a converstaion without shouting at each other and no respect for anyone in the adjoining rooms.
And when you ask them to shut up as it is 5am. They look at you as if you have grown 3 heads and get very offended.
Xman. What do you mean someone special? And not pay that much? We allvknow you are man of subtantial means. But I also know you are generous with the ladies which to me is the important thing (and v kinky if rumours are true LOL)
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1348316]SA.
Are there affluent expats in Cordova. LOL Just I always think that part of town is not affluent based on a few ladies who are desperate to get out of the Cordova area.
As for the shouting and screaming in hotels. I find the pinoy families the worse, wake up at 5am, turn on the TV (very loud) , kids on rampage in the corridor, can't hold a converstaion without shouting at each other and no respect for anyone in the adjoining rooms.
And when you ask them to shut up as it is 5am. They look at you as if you have grown 3 heads and get very offended.
Xman. What do you mean someone special? And not pay that much? We allvknow you are man of subtantial means. But I also know you are generous with the ladies which to me is the important thing (and v kinky if rumours are true LOL) [/QUOTE]There are some well to-do expats there. A few clusters of German Japanese and Korean expats in the better subdivisions. Personally Mactan Lapux2 and Cordova are not my taste. The draw is a nice sea view, but Mactan has mostly wide mud flats, and having to deal with the traffic on the bridges is a negative.
Crimson was targeting mostly foreign tourists before, but that's not working.
Roger, Were those rhetorical questions?
No deep meaning there unfortunately. If I like a gal enough to spend time with her, then I like to be at a nice place with a pool or beach. Right now there is a cute lapu2 factory worker who might need some extra wooing so I thought about a night or two at Mactan. Many years ago I stayed at Belle Vista near the bridge and explored the seedy Lapu2 bars.
A quick glance at the Crimson web site indicated their most inexpensive Deluxe rooms are 7000. X.
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1348316]SA.
SNIP.
Xman. What do you mean someone special? And not pay that much? We allvknow you are man of subtantial means. But I also know you are generous with the ladies which to me is the important thing (and v kinky if rumours are true LOL) [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=X Man; 1348446]Roger, Were those rhetorical questions?
No deep meaning there unfortunately. If I like a gal enough to spend time with her, then I like to be at a nice place with a pool or beach. Right now there is a cute lapu2 factory worker who might need some extra wooing so I thought about a night or two at Mactan. Many years ago I stayed at Belle Vista near the bridge and explored the seedy Lapu2 bars.
A quick glance at the Crimson web site indicated their most inexpensive Deluxe rooms are 7000. X.[/QUOTE]LOL.
7000! Well not for me.
Talking of ladies another cutie was asking after you, maybe you let her wear bra and panties on the plane / while in the mall etc and are not as cruel with other extras she craves so much?
Bella Vista looks even seedier now, friend stayed there recently as was close to the airport. Nothing to write home about
If you are looking for a beach resort on Mactan that is not too expensive, I recommend Tambuli WEST. There is also a Tambuli EAST, but both the rooms and pool area are superior at WEST. Double with aircon and breakfast runs about 3000-3500. Two pools and lovely grounds. Last time I was in Cebu I stayed there on four separate occasions, twice with one companion and twice with two. So, definitely girl friendly with no raised eyebrows. For reservations you can call this number, (032) 492 1888. Be sure to specify WEST.
Hey fellow mongers,
I've been mongering for a while and have pretty much found my go to spots to monger like Angeles. I was just hoping to get some of your opinions on Cebu? How you like the mongering scene, if it's worth, comparisons, etc. I've heard and read a lot about the beach clubs, etc. Any thoughts and could you relate it to anything in Pattaya or Angeles?
Thanks for your time,
YG
[QUOTE=YG365; 1355404]Hey fellow mongers,
I've been mongering for a while and have pretty much found my go to spots to monger like Angeles. I was just hoping to get some of your opinions on Cebu? How you like the mongering scene, if it's worth, comparisons, etc. I've heard and read a lot about the beach clubs, etc. Any thoughts and could you relate it to anything in Pattaya or Angeles?
Thanks for your time,
YG[/QUOTE]Stay where you are YG as you won't enjoy Cebu at all. Best you go AC and Pattaya as so much more culture there and let Cebu be visited by people like me and a few dedicated others
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger;1355589]Stay where you are YG as you won't enjoy Cebu at all. Best you go AC and Pattaya as so much more culture there and let Cebu be visited by people like me and a few dedicated others[/QUOTE]I concur with WR. Borrring and a lot more work than Angeles or Pattaya.
Cheapy
I would like to preface this post firstly by thanking all past posters for the background info and whilst the utilisation of of all this information can be of questionable success nevertheless I would to express my than ks and gratitude. I would especially like to thank one particular member who went to far as to email me some of his contacts and whilst these contacts turn out not to a success I still feel enormous goodwill for this member. I will not name him due to the fact that he will prob be inundated by guys wanted to have his assistance. I will recount my experieced and even tho some of these will not be positive I still don't want to come across as ungratfule or I'm disrespecting the said member who was helpful, its just a matter of different tastes.
Street workers colon / peleaz.
I was coming back from the islands with backpack and I found myself on this street at 7pm and I saw 1 cute girls prob a 7 19-20 yrs old I was curious and I asked her the price 500p, later that nite I hit the bars so was too lazy to go find her again. The next day was the day of the typhoon and so there was not much action around that time.
Streeet workers Juleanna osama.
I was curious so I walked prob 500m at 9pm one night and yes the girls looked unclean and generally unsavoury. I started around the bookstore and walked up a bit.
Jave / mango square.
One night I decided to activelly approach some girls, one girl seems unintyerested was turning away from me, another turned out to have another prospective buyer in line so she didn't talk to me. I think if you come at 12=1am like I did most girls have already had offeres that have not been finalised. The final girl was prob a 6. 5-7. She seems very interested in me but the story is that she is a nursing student from manila here studing and her dormitory has girls working the bars and this little cadre of girls was pushing her to maintain the fixed price of 3000 a night, I maanaged to talk her down to 2000 which is still a bit high given I can get 8's in the bars fpr 2500 so I passed on her offer. Outside on the square were all transsexuals so it was not very enticing.
Ayalla mall.
I spent prob a toal of 4-5 hours spread over 3 days and I didn't see any girls thats were more attarctive than the ones found in the bars and they either didmt look like they were on the game or they just werent my tastes. I even saw the DIA dates of a few guys and all I can say was very undesirable.
Personal contacts referred by a gratious member.
I was given contacts of two ladies, one was describes as bi slim sexy betc, her name was queenie.
The seocnd name was apple, with a nice body, I get contacted by apple first and she is quite flirty and speakes via text in a pleasant way. I am further told by my said mentor that ehr pays these girls 2000+taxi.
So I organise to meet apple as she is the first one to contact me at ayala, she is punctual and courteous when she arrives, she described herself as 21 gorgeous, witty and sexy, the girl I met I would give her a 5in looks she looks plump and dressed like a girl in her 30s so she looked sloser to 27 than 21. Anway as I didn't want to waste her time nor mine, I told her that I didn't know what she looked like and if it was possible that I give her taxi money and taht we part ways, I did offer to take her to lunch beofre I rejected her based on her not being my type.
Later I get a text from queenie but now considerig the price I was thinking 1000-1500 and the previous encounter whether I should proceed with these said meetups with freelancer.
I mean 2500 for a 8 bar girl w stays over nights and gives me 3 round OR a 5-6 college girl 2000+taxi.
Another point if interest, I got a offer from a bar girl who works at a bar that is 2000 bar fine, I had taken another girl where she stayed me me 4 hrs and we had two round, she had intened to stay till morning but she said she had to do something in the morning so I was happy to let her go, so the second girls who offered me to meet me out of the bar, she now says she wanst me to give her 1500 per roound and she was planning to stay 2-3 hours. What is in the minds of these girls where she thinks a monger would agree. I mean from her persepctive if I bar fine her at the bar out of that 2000 she only gets 800, now if I take her out of of the ssytem she gets 1500, BUT on my side of the equations I get 2000/3 round if my take her from the bar or 3000/2 round if I take her out, I mean where's the logic
Yester day I tried the girls on colon out of the 3-4 there one was a 6. 5,7 in the room as she was a girls prob 90 pounds with with be-see cips, over all a great fuck everything you could ask for and cost me 500+100 tip took about 1hr to get the deed done. I was unrushed but I didn't want to do the usual hugging afterwards.
I then tried a girsl I was chatting with at the bars I previosly mentions 750p in lady drinks and 1700 bar fine, a really nice girl but just not into sex, must have some residual emotional issies she stayed overnite, refused BJ but everything else was GFE with kissing and hugging but since she refused a BJ I couldn't get hard to fuck her at night and only managed a round with my morning glory. Again nice girls but not accomadating towards sex so whilst I wasnt upset or angry I didn't think she deserved a tip and she didn't ask for one but is suppose 2500 ie 1700+750 in LD to fuck and hug a girls overnight isn't such a bad deal not the best but I won't be crying.
On my last day in cebu, I decided to take a large breasted girl from one of the bars again it was 1700+750 in mandatory LD. She stay till morning was kissing and GFE BUT she was telling me she didn't know HOW to BJ so that was kind of annoying, but she was willing to go three rounds with me so in leaving I tipped her 300.
Then this next experience would have been the highlight of my trip. Earlier I mentioned that I was in contact with a fellow forum member and he had questioned my preference for bar girls rather than freelancers and my answer was that bar girls were better looking, tho more expensive and gave me a GFE comparable to freelancer. Well in this last example I may have to eat some of my words. The said gentleman had given me contacts to two ladies the first was not to my liking, the second was the complete match to what I like her name was I incorrectly said queenie but was infact AMANDA, who is 23, bisexual, slim and best of all a very good conversationalist and gave the impression of a very nice wholesome girl, BUT with a wicked sexual core. Overall she was a very good sexual partner, I ended up with 5 bar girls and 3 were equally horney, so was the grils from colon street and finally amanda gave me the best impression of as GFE as possible given the way we met. I was told she normally asked for 2000, but she said I can give her 1500 and she was going to stay with me for 5-6hrs. Wow the time went so quickly and in the end including her taxi I gave her about 1800.
So in summary ill repeat what others have said about cebu, that if you have the time and the perseverance then Cebu freelancer hunting can be a very profitable experience but you have to take a few hots before you strike gold, unless you can convince the cebu samaritan to pass you amanda details.
I am now in AC and so I will give a brief comparision between cebu and AC, ill qualify that I'm a budget minded guy, I don't drink and I'm her to have sex with attractive girl, I'm not here to impress girls with my money or status, Chinese-australian, and I have been told I'm reasonably attractive but who knows what thats means lets say I'm not ugly as narcistic as that sounds.
Accomodation.
Cebu is slightly more expensive as in cebu I was paying 1500 for a similar room in ac that I'm paying 1000.
Daytime activities.
Cebu is a tad bit closer to the beaches etc and has more cultural sites but most guys are going for sex holidays so I don't thinks thats much relevant, you can mall hunt and DIA meet in cebu, in AC the DIA girls tend to be working in the bars anyway so not exactly easy to find college girls etc. Both have malls in which to watch movies, BUt on the flip side cvebu has the BJ bars and perimiter road bars that open up early as opposed to the 8pm opening times of cebu bars.
Bargirls.
The girls in cebu tend to be more slimmer and fairer, so in a average bar in cebu I would be be able to say thats 50-60% ie 4-5 out of the 10-15grisl working would be attarctive for me, BUT in AC I would go in a bar and see only 5-10% of the girls being adequately attractive so the bar could have 30girls and I'd say onlly 1-2 would be worth the effort. In AC much more fatter girls with stretch marks that I find more unttractive than darker skin, and generally the ages are older in AC. But the sheer number of girls in AC allows to to bottom feed hunt, looking for that diamond in the rough, which could be a activity to pass the time. The large number of bars is also another positive because in cebu there were only 5-6 bars in which I found the girls to be attractive and asked for a reasonable price ie lessthan 3000, so after tou have takes 1 girsl from each of those bars, I found myself in the position where othergirls from the same bar refused my interest based on their own code of "bros before ho's", so even if you have girls you are interested in the same bar you will not have the possibility of tasted the second girls.
Bar costs.
In cebu the drinks were generally 65, the lady 150-200, bar fines based on what you can get away with paying the least is about 2200-2500. Ie the barfine and min LD drinks bought. In AC it is a bit more deceptive, perimeter road is 65 drinks. 120 ld. 1000-1500 in bar fines but I think you would be hard pressed to find girls attractive enuff, fields ave bars, the drinks were 95 ld 150-300 and barfines 1800-3000, but I tink given the tendancy you would get a girl on avergafe for 2000.
So I'm my view when you factor in averages the price would be similar to cebu and AC tho if you look at min pricing then AC is cheaper.
In my mind AC is where you can go purely for sex, ie the pay the minimum for a girl regardless of looks, but you have more chances to find diamond, and you can stay longer without encountering the two girl blockage.
Cebu is where you go if you want to put in the time and effort to find a "normal" girl or to find hassle free attarctive girls without having to hit 5-6bars looking for that special girl
Mutantchicken I was wondering which mango bars are enforcing this mininum 750pesos lady drink policy with the barfine. Surely it must be the bars only trying this to newbies. I'm sure expats living there don't have to pay this minimum lady drink policy. Maybe some foreigners living there can enlighten us about this.
Thank you for your good info. I have been to Cebu and A / see fields and agree with all that you say. I would add. If I met a girl in A / C it would be a long time before I would come to think she was not, is not and has not been a bar girl. In cebu I think there is a good chance to meet normal girl while out and about. Now somethimes you do with out the freak with the normal girls. Lots of I have never done that. No my friends do not want to come over also. So, I would pick soley on wether or not it was a sex trip. I can say I never get tired of the newbies. But sometimes need the freaky sex. Thanks again for the info.
[QUOTE=Boofa69;1358289]Mutantchicken I was wondering which mango bars are enforcing this mininum 750pesos lady drink policy with the barfine. Surely it must be the bars only trying this to newbies. I'm sure expats living there don't have to pay this minimum lady drink policy. Maybe some foreigners living there can enlighten us about this.[/QUOTE]The guys who have been around for awhile and are known to the girls, the mamasan and-or the owner (either one or all) do not have to pay a drink minimum to barfine. Granted we are usually the ones to sit and buy a few LD's and shoot the shit while watching the girls on stage anyways. From what I heard this new policy is there to stop the 'cheap charlie' guys who come in and stand at the stage to inspect the girls close up or they request a line-up and choose the girl without ever sitting down, ordering a drink or talking to the girl. Now those guys have to pay-up.
If you're a newbie expect to be asked to buy drinks and sit awhile. Some places do not care if you buy three drinks for three different girls. Just make sure to ask a few questions before awarding a few LD's as many BG's have turned into drink sluts who are there for the drinks but refuse to barfine. Do not award a girl who is only there for conversation. Bargirls are there to be barfined!
My view of this is this, the bars that have a mandatory min of drinks the barfine is priced at 1700+750= 2450, the bars that done the bar fine is 2000, and it would take on avg 2 drinks at 200 each to determine if you are compatible with her. 2200, and there are other bars whewre the girls were wanting 3000, so like the other poster mentioned the expats or regulars who don't get charged that 750 are already buying prob 750 in drinsk for the mamsan or the owner or their fav bar girls anyway, so it not worth geting ruffled about over <20usd.
It just like in the AC thread guys are getting upset about xyz overpaying, but if for example I take a girl for 1500, then I take her bar hopping, take her to dinner at a italian place take her to the movie and I spend 1000, which is never reported, but if I was to take her to the hotel and we have a relaxing night watching tv and fucking, then I report that I tipped her 1000, then I'd be flamed as being someone who is ruining the market. The girls would rather have a extra tipp than being dragged around to places they don't really enjoy anyway.
My two cents
This is a work in progress, because I am still in manila and having a fucking good time.
I spent my fist week in Cebu and I am traveling alone. On my first full day I go to the girlie bars to re acquaint myself with what is around.
I am staying at the Crown Regency Towers so my local is the Silver Dollar. I have read some negative info about this place but in my limited experience it is as good as any bar in Cebu. A big plus is this bar opens at 1 pm, while the rest open at 7 or 8 pm. If you are looking for a new day time hook up this place may be your best option. The second shift starts at 4 pm and finishes at 1 am.
In the "mango square' area there are some clubs and a few hundred meters away a cluster of girlie bars which many here know well. Pussy cat / lovecity / papillon / dimples / red lips / viking / eric / planet x etc. Over the week I visit all of them and I can make the following generalizations.
The average girl I met was about 22, 5ft1, 40 kg, has 1 child, pretty. 600 facebook friends and a beautiful smile. Overall I found the girls are good fun but I did have some poor experiences.
The last place I visit on my 1st night is Pump Disco. It is the 17th Dec and a Monday night, so when I walk in at 2am it looks very quite. I see a tallish girl dancing around the tables and without any inhibitions try to make a move on her. She doesn't look like a working girl and the situation becomes awkward when she doesn't reciprocate, but I persevere and eventually we make good conversation.
Soon I realize she is a freelancer. Her name is Min, can't remember her age now but think she is 24. She has some distinctive characteristics, like her height, glamorous hair (to Korean taste) and very submissive mannerisms. Initially I was not planning to take her home. I was more interested in just getting some numbers and a good night sleep.
Min introduced me to her 'friends' who were sitting outside and drinking. They included other working girls and Korean guys. This would be my only night at Pump (too many other distractions in Cebu) but what I understood is this place was typically a Korean hangout.
After an hour of drinking and talking, I get a lot of insight from the Korean perspective of girls here. I won't elaborate, but found they were a bit shamless in how they talked about the phil girls (actually I find some of us westerners there not too dissimilar). Min tried to keep a dignified face in their company, but I saw it was wearing her down. Later she would even complain about these guys but I found it strange because she chose to work there as well.
I take her back to my hotel. Reception ask for her I'd. They do not look her in the eye and predominantly looking down on the ground and keeping silent except when talking to me. I wonder if Min notices this and when we get into the elevator she comes out with 'sometimes I just hate myself'. Turned out she was what some would call an 'emo' but in my drunken stupor I did not give her much consolation. Actually I was quite sympathetic to her feeling, but I would learn many times that if you give these girls some heart they can just as easily take advantage of it.
Back in the bedroom she and I just go to sleep without any communication. We wake up 3 or 4 hrs later for some hip grinding and after that neither of us could get any more sleep.
When paying her I gave 2, 000p. It was shown to here as a 1000 note with 2x500 notes inside. She could not possibly know how much I gave her, but nodded anyway and said it was ok.
[QUOTE=KingsWood; 1366453]I spent my fist week in Cebu and I am traveling alone. [SNIP]
The last place I visit on my 1st night is Pump Disco. It is the 17th Dec and a Monday night, so when I walk in at 2am it looks very quite. I see a tallish girl dancing around the tables and without any inhibitions try to make a move on her. She doesn't look like a working girl and the situation becomes awkward when she doesn't reciprocate, but I persevere and eventually we make good conversation. [SNIP][/quote]
KW,
If you walked up to my GF and just grabbed her or "made a move on her" you would be in deep trouble to say the least. The first time in the Philippines can give you the feeling like you're a rock star and all eyes are on you, but you need to realize this is a place where misunderstandings quickly turn into someone lying on the ground with a chalk outline around them. Yes there are alot of filipinas available to meet and have a good time with, but if you make a move on a filipina that's already taken or your approach is too aggressive her friends or other filipinos will step in and protect her. You went to a disco, not a bikini bar. Be careful, be respectful.
Stand back, assess the situation. Watch who she is with, and try and make eye contact with your chosen filipina to show you're interested. Once you get the right signal approach her in a calm and respectful way, doing this always yourself a way out if her BF comes up to you. Just say the filipina looks like one of your wife's friends and you're looking for her.
Welcome to ISG.
KingsWood.
Thanks for taking the time to give us your experience at the " Pump". The advantage that foreigners have here in the Philippines is that the vast majority of the people here have little or no money. That enables us fortunate enough to be here, to choose from a wide selection of girls.
One person who frequently makes incorrect comments on this board said that the club scene is not as good as it was 5 years ago. Well that is not true. In fact the bar scene has changed little in the last 30 years. The bar scene has changed in Manila because of the closing of the Mabini bars, but here in Cebu, the scene has remained stable since 1983. In Manila, the infamous Major Lim decided that the thriving clubs and bars needed to be closed and systematically started having his goon police start a series of raids which over time forced the closing of those clubs. This changed the scene in Manila but here in cebu city, there has always been a small, vibrant number of bars. However, the best action here has always been how easy it is to meet regular girls, and in my humble, and probably biased opinion, the girls in the southern Philippines islands are the most beautiful of them all.
[QUOTE=Levdog; 1367149]KingsWood.
Thanks for taking the time to give us your experience at the " Pump". The advantage that foreigners have here in the Philippines is that the vast majority of the people here have little or no money. That enables us fortunate enough to be here, to choose from a wide selection of girls.
One person who frequently makes incorrect comments on this board said that the club scene is not as good as it was 5 years ago. Well that is not true. In fact the bar scene has changed little in the last 30 years. The bar scene has changed in Manila because of the closing of the Mabini bars, but here in Cebu, the scene has remained stable since 1983. In Manila, the infamous Major Lim decided that the thriving clubs and bars needed to be closed and systematically started having his goon police start a series of raids which over time forced the closing of those clubs. This changed the scene in Manila but here in cebu city, there has always been a small, vibrant number of bars. However, the best action here has always been how easy it is to meet regular girls, and in my humble, and probably biased opinion, the girls in the southern Philippines islands are the most beautiful of them all.[/QUOTE]The club scene and bars are 2 different things here in Cebu, to me the disco clubs have not changed, but the bars have suffered even arena says there is no bar fine, they have stopped the nudity, so explain how that is the same.
Just a little update from a 2 day trip to cebu. A little freelance scene can be found at the burgerbar "Friday" in Ayala Mall. Have a few beers ad smile at the girls passing by and company should be easy. Went to the Mango Square scene, which I had not been to for 5 years. The Viking seemed way bett erthan it was years ago. Nice relaxed vibe and a lot of 9-10. Different vibe at Papillion, Better music there if you ask me. Prices are 3000 at Papilion and 3300 in Viking incl. Barfine. Talked to Nicole (the one with the hughe boobs) Only downside to her an some of the more attractive ones are that they seem a little too pro, having heard too much bula-bula for too long.
Other than that the Chuva Chuva massage is still great for Ling-am massage. 900 peso. I had a treatment from Chris, who was greatat both the massage and the happy ending. She did not ask for a tip or extras (topless etc) before finishing, which usualy can ruin the experience.
Lastly I went to the Wild Orchide Health Club, at the Crown Regency Hotel in the V. Rama avenue. The seems to have been no reports from there in quite awhile. Opening hours 12 am to 2 am. So I was not even sure it was still there. But it was! Its located in the parking cellar of the hotel and is impossible to find without asking the guys out in from of the hotel (or asking in the recpetion)
Massage is 400 pesos and I had 8 girls to choose from. I choose the one with the big boobs and who looked most eperienced. She was! She wanted all inclusive for 4000. Which I laughed at and rejected. 2000 was agreed on and included asshole / prostata massage, bare back blow job and regular fucky fucky (I tried for anal which as usual in PH was rejected).
Socker,
I learned Spanish in six months looong time ago. The trick is to frequently travel to Colombia to practice with friends and not just working girls!
There is a great language schools in Medallo. Cheap by western standards and you'll meet locals who want to learn yours! Try EAFIT.
BS.
[QUOTE=Socker; 1300184]I am not an expert on either Colombia or Cebu but those are my main hunting grounds these days. PI has Manila, AC and Cebu, those are the places I am familiar (excluding Manila). AC and Cebu are not beach towns but have beach towns nearby. AC has Puerta Galera and Cebu has Bantayan, Bohol and Moatball. I have been to both Bantayan (definitely BYOG) and Puerto Galera, (has it's own bar scene, no need to BYOG). There are lots of reports on these places so you should find them and take notes. Both these places (PG and Bantayan) are special places worth a visit of a few days, no longer than that for me.
AC is the Costco of bars and sex, w / easy pickings for any guy. To me though the ladies are average, in the 5, 6.7 category. The stunners are hard to find but fun to hunt for, nonetheless. BF prices in the bars from $25 up to who knows. Should be happy for the night for around $60 for 1 lady. Puerta Galera is a 2 hr. Bus / 2 hr. Boat ride away (4 hrs. Total) worth the effort. It's a divers paradise w / a small quaint beach town feel (Sabang). The bargirls there are warm and friendly and I heard the prices have gone up. Lots of little beaches to go to by renting a boat w / a driver for about $20/30 for a 1/2 day.
Cebu has the lookers IMO. There are fewer places to hunt but both times I have been to Cebu I have been impressed w / the cebuanas. The prices are higher than in AC, last November 2000p BF plus tip for a bargirl but they were hot looking stunners for the most part. One problem w / Cebu is the Korean guys get special treatment and it can get in the way of the fun, but I had no problem getting what I wanted eventually. So that's about all I have time for, you should find the numerous reports and they should have all the info you need. Bantayan is a 2 hr drive / 1, 5 hr boat ride away. Inexpensive resorts there w / vacany's, it is a pristine gorgeous island, must BYOG.
As for Colombia. The language issue is VERY large and I have been studying now for almost 2 years. Once I have the ability to converse easily w / the Colombianas I am not sure where I will want to go for fun. The Colombianas are spectacular looking and can handle themselves in a party atmosphere much better. You give a filipina 4 drinks and she will throw up and pass out. The Colombiana can drink you under the table and then REALLY FUCK YOUR BRAINS OUT. If I could only go to one place it would be Colombia, easy decision.
The cost on the ground in both Colombia and PI are (in my experience) very similar. In an AC BJ bar what, $15 for a 5 to blow you. In a Colombian Casa. 30 minutes (w / an 8 or 9) $18, w / a beer $19. 50. Very similar EXCEPT to the eye. In Colombia, $18 to fuck a beautiful model and that's why I am so freaking happy all the time. Hahahahaha heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Just trying to help.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Iigorvich;1368879]Just a little update from a 2 day trip to cebu. A little freelance scene can be found at the burgerbar "Friday" in Ayala Mall. Have a few beers ad smile at the girls passing by and company should be easy.[/quote]Umm that would be the International restaurant chain [b] TGI Fridays[/b] Which has a location on the ground level ayala mall. A tad bit more than a burgerbar but up to you.
[quote]Went to the Mango Square scene, which I had not been to for 5 years. The Viking seemed way bett erthan it was years ago. Nice relaxed vibe and a lot of 9-10. Different vibe at Papillion, Better music there if you ask me. Prices are 3000 at Papilion and 3300 in Viking incl. Barfine. Talked to Nicole (the one with the hughe boobs) Only downside to her an some of the more attractive ones are that they seem a little too pro, having heard too much bula-bula for too long.[/quote]You are getting two seperate places mixed up. [b]Mango Square[/b] Is the strip mall location on Gen. Maxilom avenue aka- Mango avenue that contains (YOU) Bar and Sunburst chicken resto ect, and is also the disco bar section on the other side of Mango avenue. Mango Square is best known for picking up semi-pro filipinas or BG's who come looking for extra cash after they finish work at a bikini bar. The BG bars located down Mango avenue are not part of Mango Square.
[quote]Other than that the Chuva Chuva massage is still great for Ling-am massage. 900 peso. I had a treatment from Chris, who was greatat both the massage and the happy ending. She did not ask for a tip or extras (topless etc) before finishing, which usualy can ruin the experience.
Lastly I went to the Wild Orchide Health Club, at the Crown Regency Hotel in the V. Rama avenue. The seems to have been no reports from there in quite awhile. Opening hours 12 am to 2 am. So I was not even sure it was still there. But it was! Its located in the parking cellar of the hotel and is impossible to find without asking the guys out in from of the hotel (or asking in the recpetion)
Massage is 400 pesos and I had 8 girls to choose from. I choose the one with the big boobs and who looked most eperienced. She was! She wanted all inclusive for 4000. Which I laughed at and rejected. 2000 was agreed on and included asshole / prostata massage, bare back blow job and regular fucky fucky (I tried for anal which as usual in PH was rejected).[/QUOTE]Orchid spa is still open in the Crown Regency hotel basement parking garage on V. Rama street. I heard that most of the massage attendants are now in the sub 4-5 range and most foreigners do not partake. They are now mostly patronized and kept open by visiting philippine government agencies such as association of barangay officials, ect which write off the massage as a conference expense.
[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1369584]Umm that would be the International restaurant chain [b] TGI Fridays[/b] Which has a location on the ground level ayala mall. A tad bit more than a burgerbar but up to you.
You are getting two seperate places mixed up. [b]Mango Square[/b] Is the strip mall location on Gen. Maxilom avenue aka- Mango avenue that contains (YOU) Bar and Sunburst chicken resto ect, and is also the disco bar section on the other side of Mango avenue. Mango Square is best known for picking up semi-pro filipinas or BG's who come looking for extra cash after they finish work at a bikini bar. The BG bars located down Mango avenue are not part of Mango Square.
Orchid spa is still open in the Crown Regency hotel basement parking garage on V. Rama street. I heard that most of the massage attendants are now in the sub 4-5 range and most foreigners do not partake. They are now mostly patronized and kept open by visiting philippine government agencies such as association of barangay officials, ect which write off the massage as a conference expense.[/QUOTE]Yeah you are right, Stroker. And laso about the Friday restaurant. BTW I'm surprised people don't find the semi-pros in Ayala. Yesterday there were atleast 10-15 girls either promenading around the restaurant as well as a lot of them "waiting" on the stairs down to the garden.
[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88;1369584]Orchid spa is still open in the Crown Regency hotel basement parking garage on V. Rama street. I heard that most of the massage attendants are now in the sub 4-5 range and most foreigners do not partake. They are now mostly patronized and kept open by visiting philippine government agencies such as association of barangay officials, ect which write off the massage as a conference expense.[/QUOTE]Girls in Orchid was atleast 7-8's IMHO. I wouldn't less.
[QUOTE=Iigorvich;1369710]Yeah you are right, Stroker. And laso about the Friday restaurant. BTW I'm surprised people don't find the semi-pros in Ayala. Yesterday there were atleast 10-15 girls either promenading around the restaurant as well as a lot of them "waiting" on the stairs down to the garden.[/QUOTE]Just because a filipina is "waiting" as you call it doesn't mean they are looking for ST hookups. You have to understand that "malling" is a national past time in the Philippines and people just go to the mall as something to do. Make sure the filipina you approach and ask about ST are there actually working and not just sitting with filipina friends giggling and making fun of your sandals and socks routine.
I agree, there are filipinas who work the mall and are there to pickup foreigners. Most of the filipinas who work the mall are not worth the time but everyone has different tastes and my 5 might be your 9. I see the same filipinas on the hunt year after year and they have very high mileage. Some are former BG's who no longer work in the bars and a few that work the bars at night and the malls during the day. It's a cat and mouse game for sure.
[QUOTE=Iigorvich;1369714]Girls in Orchid was atleast 7-8's IMHO. I wouldn't less.[/QUOTE]Whatever YMMV, as always in the Philippines it's up to you.
[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88;] I agree, there are filipinas who work the mall and are there to pickup foreigners. Most of the filipinas who work the mall are not worth the time but everyone has different tastes and my 5 might be your 9. I see the same filipinas on the hunt year after year and they have very high mileage. Some are former BG's who no longer work in the bars and a few that work the bars at night and the malls during the day. It's a cat and mouse game for sure.[/QUOTE]
And some are LBs especially those around Watsons at night. Trust Iigorvich did not mean those as well LOL. Or maybe could not tell the difference
[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1369957]Just because a filipina is "waiting" as you call it doesn't mean they are looking for ST hookups. You have to understand that "malling" is a national past time in the Philippines and people just go to the mall as something to do. Make sure the filipina you approach and ask about ST are there actually working and not just sitting with filipina friends giggling and making fun of your sandals and socks routine.
I agree, there are filipinas who work the mall and are there to pickup foreigners. Most of the filipinas who work the mall are not worth the time but everyone has different tastes and my 5 might be your 9. I see the same filipinas on the hunt year after year and they have very high mileage. Some are former BG's who no longer work in the bars and a few that work the bars at night and the malls during the day. It's a cat and mouse game for sure.[/QUOTE]Stroker. I've been to The Phils- 9-10 times and I don't confuse normal girls with those who are freelancing. I've picked up from Friday's before. A good one acutally. Its easy to see who is waiting for company there. It's just like around Havana Cafe in Makati (or around Balcony Bar in Rio for that matter) give them a pass and see if they react and continue to try to get eye contact. And eventueally invite them to your table.
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger;1369975]And some are LBs especially those around Watsons at night. Trust Iigorvich did not mean those as well LOL. Or maybe could not tell the difference[/QUOTE]LOL, the LBs are around after dark and prowl from Gerry's Grill to Bo's coffee, that is until the guard comes to move them along. If you hear "pssstttttt youuuuu-hooooo" coming from the upper deck at Yellow Cab hold your honey-ko close and keep moving.
[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1369957]Just because a filipina is "waiting" as you call it doesn't mean they are looking for ST hookups. You have to understand that "malling" is a national past time in the Philippines and people just go to the mall as something to do. Make sure the filipina you approach and ask about ST are there actually working and not just sitting with filipina friends giggling and making fun of your sandals and socks routine.
I agree, there are filipinas who work the mall and are there to pickup foreigners. Most of the filipinas who work the mall are not worth the time but everyone has different tastes and my 5 might be your 9. I see the same filipinas on the hunt year after year and they have very high mileage. Some are former BG's who no longer work in the bars and a few that work the bars at night and the malls during the day. It's a cat and mouse game for sure.[/QUOTE]I agree, just cause girls are waiting doesn't mean they are waiting for some sex tourist. And yes, the freelancers in Ayala are usually of a poor standard. That guy needs to learn more before he shells out advice and info. When we first visit Phils the girls are 7's and 8's as he now perceives. Later on in his travels they will be 4's and 5's, yes.
[QUOTE=Sxxxx;1371167]I agree, just cause girls are waiting doesn't mean they are waiting for some sex tourist. And yes, the freelancers in Ayala are usually of a poor standard. That guy needs to learn more before he shells out advice and info. When we first visit Phils the girls are 7's and 8's as he now perceives. Later on in his travels they will be 4's and 5's, yes.[/QUOTE]LOL.
Good point, been here 9+ times and knows it all. Like another on the Manila thread who is 26 and never pays, always has queues girtls for free etc, but we can't seem to understand why at 26 he uses V and C either. Odd that LOL.
Yet all forget as some of us wiser mongers know that the cuties are shy to ask and we should help.
SA. You seem all to knowing about what the LBs shout at you LOL (mind you FSlag would know more also LOL) and have you checked your PMs recently?
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1371252]LOL.
Good point, been here 9+ times and knows it all. Like another on the Manila thread who is 26 and never pays, always has queues girtls for free etc, but we can't seem to understand why at 26 he uses V and C either. Odd that LOL.
Yet all forget as some of us wiser mongers know that the cuties are shy to ask and we should help.
SA. You seem all to knowing about what the LBs shout at you LOL (mind you FSlag would know more also LOL) and have you checked your PMs recently?[/QUOTE]WR,
Unfortunately yes. Before the holidays I was dining at Big Mao with a cutie and a group of LBs gathered at the railing. For the first time in my life I knew what a thai fishbowl girl feels like.
[url]Ewwweeewwehhhheeeeeuuuuuu.[/url]
I think they were just eyeing my wheelchair, or my sheep-dogish hair piece but it still made me feel icky.
I cleaned out some room in the ol' inbox.
I just spent 3 weeks in the Phils and intended to write a chronological account of my Cebu / Manilla trip but I don't think it's the best idea now. So I will just try to summarise and give some specific experiences. Here I will cover Julianas disco and will mention Arena. Keep in mind when you read this, my observations are during the week prior to Christmas which is perhaps the crusiest week in the year, with lots of workers and students on holidays. About me, I am average looking 40 yr guy, who dresses neat.
The girlie bars typically close about 3 am, after that the logical place to go is the discos, which are one of the main reasons I like Cebu.
Julianas, is the main freelancer disco in Cebu. The clientele there is a mixture of Koreans, Caucasians, but mostly Pinoys.
If you go past early, say 9pm, you will see the freelancers already out side. I think they are just mostly street girls / ladyboys who can't afford the 100p to get in. But during the night the freelancers pay and enter as well. You can meet them inside, but as mentioned after my earlier post, it is easy to make a mistake. I would also observe girls, thinking they are good girls, then later see them being picked up by customers so mistakes are easy to make both ways.
Sometimes I sat outside as well, watching the freelancers steadily streaming out. I actually think this is a easier way to spot them because they tend to walk out very slowly making eye contact with us guys. Some are late night partying bar girls but many seem to be genuine part timers as well.
Regarding the quality of girls, it's a mixed bag so you will have to take your time.
During one night at Juliana at about 3 am I was sitting outside and observed two darlings walk outside with a gent. The girls suggested I join them. The American gent with them says its okay and in a short while he abandons them. Later I learnt he is a frequent visitor so maybe not as impressed with these girls as I was.
Both these girls looked stunning to me. One was small, petite, hair in a fancy bun and in a sequenced dress. The other was called Katherine and this was one of the most gorgeous working girl I would meet at Julianas, stunning and 24 yrs, just incredible.
During the next hour we drank outside and then danced at Alcoholgy.
Problem was neither of us were feeling completely well so we exchange numbers, make arrangements to meet the next day after lunch. I give her a generous 500p taxi fee and go home.
Next day, she doesn't show up when arranged. Later she would call, but gave me the fuck around with changing plans and we never end up meeting. Actually the whole experience stung, not for the 500p, but I wasted time for her. I think I learned first hand that truly stunning girls in the Phils probably know their value, have options and can fuck us around as much as we do them. Well that is my opinion from this experience.
On another nights, (believe it was the 23 Dec) I ended up drinking late at Julianas without a date but I wasn't too concerned. I should say that I am not a hardcore monger and sometimes enjoy mingling with random people with no sexual agenda.
I saw 3 girls sitting outside drinking Kamakazi from a jug. They were getting tanked, it looked fun and they allowed me to join. They did not look like working girls, and I wasn't interested anyway. Now a strange twist.
These girls say they are receptionist at Arena (the big girlie / karaoke bar).
One of them was flirting with me, she was attractive and big chested (but just not my type) and certainly did not look like an Arena working girl. This flirty girl then invited me to join her at her Christmas party the next day which was on Mactan Island. She had a hotel room, gave detail, number, time, etc. It was supposed to be a beach party.
At this stage I was getting fantasies of being Hugh Hefner for a day at the Arena Christmas beach party. Actually, back to reality I think it would have been mostly their bar / cleaning staff but I will never know because I didn't go.
Later this same night, I get the urge of taking home some company. All night I saw girls streaming out in pairs or 3's, sometimes unaccompanied. I decided to make an approach on a girl in a classy red dress called Susan. She seems interested and we make casual chit chat as we walk towards the taxis, but the situation changes into a complete circus.
Firstly, there are lots of touts, pimps, beggars watching like a hawk. When I approach Susan, it becomes obvious and some of them work they way in between us. One female pretends to be her pimp and suggest I pay her 5000p. Another guy is yapping 100miles an hour and seems to be playing the part of a pimp as well. Then the beggars were tugging on us 'Merry Christmas sir'. My girl gives a 'yelp' and we scramble into the taxi, took about 2 minutes because everyone was acting like I was father Christmas. I was able to kick all of them out except for one guy in the front seat who insisted I pay him a 'taxi find fee'. It took about 200 meters down the road before the taxi driver stops and we got him kicked out. My girl who was frantic earlier had now calmed down. It was one of the worst begger / tout situation I had experienced and looking back at it now, I can laugh. But at the time it was uncomfortable and could have resulted in me being pick pocketed (happened to me before so I am always wary).
Back in the hotel room, my girl tells me she is an occasional working girl from Arena! Turns out she also knew the receptionist I spoke with earlier, spilled some gossip on them but mostly what those girls told me was legit. Susan is a single mum and university student (she showed me her University card) .23, attractive, charming, very well spoken, smart, confident and lady like. This girl could be a lawyer one day, and lawyer jokes aside there was nothing 'working girl' about her, and sadly that also went for her bedroom skills as well.
As a side note, when I meet a girl like this I have to pinch myself. Bar girls and pretend high class are plentiful. But girls who are genuinely fine are real gold and this was just pot luck. Later when I go to Manila I find another uni student who is an 'all rounder' and I would see that one on 4 occasions.
BTW, for those that don't know about Arena. It's a large venue, has a cat walk like stage for dancers. It caters to Asian tastes with the 'line up'/Karaoke room setup. When I visited it, I was bored shitless. The girls seemed ordinary when they walk past, more cutesy than sexy. Maybe I was there on a bum night, or too early, but that's my experience there. When I visited I only had one drink and vowed to never go back.
Next I will write about my bar girl experiences, but I will post that under the ISG 'Cebu Bars' section and break it up into several posts.
Thanks for the good info kingswood, bargirl, part timer, studunt who can't suck a dick, back and forth we go. I go thru the same stuff. When you get my age you realize the only constant is I AM PAYING. So, my Ma was right all those years ago. You going to pay for it one way or another. Glad you had a good time and enjoyed the read
[QUOTE=KingsWood; 1372146]I
During one night at Juliana at about 3 am I was sitting outside and observed two darlings walk outside with a gent. The girls suggested I join them. The American gent with them says its okay and in a short while he abandons them. Later I learnt he is a frequent visitor so maybe not as impressed with these girls as I was.
Both these girls looked stunning to me. One was small, petite, hair in a fancy bun and in a sequenced dress. The other was called Katherine and this was one of the most gorgeous working girl I would meet at Julianas, stunning and 24 yrs, just incredible.[/QUOTE]Nice report, hope you had a great trip.
To be honest the Phils is not a great place for sex in general if you ask me. The girls are not as "creative" and 'naughty as one will experience in say Brazil, eastern europe or Germany. I still go to the phils twice a year, but that is more down to the nice beaches, nice people and great prices. Mongering wise the german FKK's seems to be where its at at the moment.
[QUOTE=Iigorvich; 1376009]Nice report, hope you had a great trip.
To be honest the Phils is not a great place for sex in general if you ask me. The girls are not as "creative" and 'naughty as one will experience in say Brazil, eastern europe or Germany. I still go to the phils twice a year, but that is more down to the nice beaches, nice people and great prices. Mongering wise the german FKK's seems to be where its at at the moment.[/QUOTE]I disagree, pinays are very naughty and far better than CIS and PRC IMHO but then I have the patience to 'educate' them as some of the senior members here will agree. When they have been throiugh (patiently) WR university most are very naughty. Otherwise why would I see them again LOL.
You need patience which is what many monger to the Philippines don't have due to time constraints or other reasons
[QUOTE=Iigorvich; 1376009]Nice report, hope you had a great trip.
To be honest the Phils is not a great place for sex in general if you ask me.[/QUOTE]Hmm whilst we all respect everyone elses opinions here. Cough cough splutter splutter your last statement is a mind boggler to me. 5-6 trips a year for past 8 years. More sex than I could handle in 5 lifetimes.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1379102]Hmm whilst we all respect everyone elses opinions here. Cough cough splutter splutter your last statement is a mind boggler to me. 5-6 trips a year for past 8 years. More sex than I could handle in 5 lifetimes.[/QUOTE]I assume that last sentence was tounge in cheek FF given what yopu do to Makati when you arrive for a long weekend. I visit the same number of times and look at me. Rhetorical comment FF (and anyone else!) , you know you can handle it FF and if you can't call your naughty twin to help out LOL
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1376074]I disagree, pinays are very naughty and far better than CIS and PRC IMHO but then I have the patience to 'educate' them as some of the senior members here will agree. When they have been throiugh (patiently) WR university most are very naughty. Otherwise why would I see them again LOL.
You need patience which is what many monger to the Philippines don't have due to time constraints or other reasons[/QUOTE]Just got back from my first trip. The girls were very enjoyable and I will be back again. For the most part I found them very sexy, compliant, and willing to learn. I did have one DIA girl that rocked my world with very little work on my part. I've been craving Asian ever since my 2 year stint with a Chinese Sugar Baby. I didn't do enough DIA planning. I'll fix that.
I think what Iigorvich was trying to say is that FSU girls are sexier right out of the box. No assembly required. I've done both FSU P4P and dated a handful back in the states. Sometimes I think I'm actually in need of a real relationship. I know, I know, crazy thinking, right?
I dated a woman for Belarus. The first night at her place she came out of the bathroom crawling on her knees. First woman that actually begged me to fuck her in the a* without any prodding on my part. My young Romanian was so full of emotion, problem was she was that way in and out of bed otherwise I would have probably married her. Dodged a bullet.
At the end of the day there is very little pussy that I haven't enjoyed.
I met (at least) one of the WRUni grads. She didn't do the "WRU WRU WRU" cheer for me, but she did ask me if there was anything kinky or weird I was "into". Bless her heart. She didn't let it show, but I think she was a bit disappointed when I told her I had a run-of-the-mill lingerie / underwear fetish.
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1376074]I disagree, pinays are very naughty and far better than CIS and PRC IMHO but then I have the patience to 'educate' them as some of the senior members here will agree. When they have been throiugh (patiently) WR university most are very naughty. Otherwise why would I see them again LOL.
You need patience which is what many monger to the Philippines don't have due to time constraints or other reasons[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=X Man;1382775]I met (at least) one of the WRUni grads. She didn't do the "WRU WRU WRU" cheer for me, but she did ask me if there was anything kinky or weird I was "into". Bless her heart. She didn't let it show, but I think she was a bit disappointed when I told her I had a run-of-the-mill lingerie / underwear fetish.[/QUOTE]LOL Xman.
She was a tad disappointed but then she does have some very extensive education which is not run of the mill LOL. But I am back very soon to recommence lessons so she and others will be suitably kinky while I am there. Yummy.
Currently in Cebu and found Ayala Mall quite a fertile hunting ground. I have struck lucky there in each of my previous trips. FL's are out looking for business. Sure they are not as in your face as, say, Makati, but they can be found. My approach is to smile and say hello to any girl I fancy shagging, but to also keep walking by. Normal, respectable girls may just smile, but FL's will take the bait and follow me and initiate conversation. The rest, as they say, is history. What I have noticed is that prices have inflated over the past 3 years. Their opening gambit is 2000. 3000 but this can easily be negotiated to 1000. 1500 ST.
Just to resurrect the ST hotel discussion for a minute.
The ValleyFront website makes them look relatively legit. I didn't see any short time rates listed. They do advertise a PHP 550 special. I assume the 260 rate is available to walk-in customers.
Do they require an I'd from one or both people to check in?
It looks like a huge step up from the Roman Plaza in Davao where the same price gets you a room that you don't want to take your shoes off in, a towel thin enough to work as a veil in some Middle Eastern countries, and a condom for your new friend.
Cheers,
SbySW.
[QUOTE=Brymor; 1297559]Anyway the name of the place is the ValleyFront, it seems to be as I said much nearer to Mango Square than the Queensland and the short time rate was 260. It is not only cheaper than the Queensland but it is in better condition and more convenient.
The full address is Happy Valley Road, corner of V. Rama Ave.
[url]www.valleyfronthotel.com[/url]
Tel (+63-32) 255-9987[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FruitNinja;1379392]At the end of the day there is very little pussy that I haven't enjoyed.[/QUOTE]You should be grateful you don't have to fuck my wife.
[QUOTE=Python75;1383047]Currently in Cebu and found Ayala Mall quite a fertile hunting ground. I have struck lucky there in each of my previous trips. FL's are out looking for business. Sure they are not as in your face as, say, Makati, but they can be found. My approach is to smile and say hello to any girl I fancy shagging, but to also keep walking by. Normal, respectable girls may just smile, but FL's will take the bait and follow me and initiate conversation. The rest, as they say, is history. What I have noticed is that prices have inflated over the past 3 years. Their opening gambit is 2000. 3000 but this can easily be negotiated to 1000. 1500 ST.[/QUOTE]Interesting info on the Ayala ST price info. I've been in cebu full-time for the past year, and though I'm at ayala all the time, I haven't taken any girls out of there (though I did get one number I didn't follow up on). I have my regular gf on the weekends, then pretty much can play all I want during the week. Personally, I avoid the P4P venues as for the money, I've had very few good experiences in cebu. For that manlia / angeles works much better for me.
What's been working for me has been meeting "regular" girls bumming around places like SM and Robinson's, and then of course DIA. I used to do straight up ST propositions, and that often worked fine but what I've found is many freelancers seem more comfortable if they are treated like a regular girl, even thought everyone involved knows exactly what game is being played. I have also found that I get better all around service if I tell them I don't have a gf (they always ask if there is a wife or gf in your life). I usually give some line about not wanting anything serious now, and leave it at that. After determining I want to fuck them and there seems to be some mutual interest, I ask her if I can take her somewhere we can be alone. When she says sure, to Queensland we go.
Usually what follows is good to great girlfriend sex. Now the money. I have found some of these girls will actually be offended if you give them too much money on the first "date". Depending on what I intuit about her, I may only give her some taxi money. Actual taxi money. P100 to P150 pesos. This is particularly true if she has a good job or her family seems relatively well off (as what she's told me about them, her situation, her clothes and accessories, etc). If I feel she is strictly working, I will give her P500 for the short time and P150 for taxi, so around P650 or so total.
Doing it this way, I have never had any girl complain about the money and I've found some great regulars who don't cost alot of money. When I was doing the up front ST propos, I found things cost more and the service was much more hit and miss and I less frequently found a good regular.
At first it seemed counter-intuitive to not get an up-front agreement on money and what she was willing to do, but for me this approach has worked best for me and I always now have more pussly on tap that my libido can handle.
Riverman, you have just given hope to all the cheap charlie koripots on the forum. Probably (although it might not seem logical) , the fact that you actually live in Cebu makes things different for you viz a viz the usual P4P visitor. Having lived there for a year, you must speak some Visayan. Anyway, I have never been fortunate enough to meet a middle class girl who is happy with 150 pesos (in my humble experience I have found that Pinoy Pride has the girls saying things that aren't true (middle class) and accepting little money (150 pesos) , without mentioning that it is below their expectations. Since you told them you aren't looking for a GF, then the scenario of them happily accepting such a small amount in hopes of snagging someone LT would not be relevant. Then again, you might not be one of the old, fat, bald, and less than handsome (like me) average ISG members.
[QUOTE=David_33;1383983]Riverman, you have just given hope to all the cheap charlie koripots on the forum. Probably (although it might not seem logical) , the fact that you actually live in Cebu makes things different for you viz a viz the usual P4P visitor. Having lived there for a year, you must speak some Visayan. Anyway, I have never been fortunate enough to meet a middle class girl who is happy with 150 pesos (in my humble experience I have found that Pinoy Pride has the girls saying things that aren't true (middle class) and accepting little money (150 pesos) , without mentioning that it is below their expectations. Since you told them you aren't looking for a GF, then the scenario of them happily accepting such a small amount in hopes of snagging someone LT would not be relevant. Then again, you might not be one of the old, fat, bald, and less than handsome (like me) average ISG members.[/QUOTE]Now that I've got my approach down, I'm sure it would work fine if I wasnt here full time. I do think, however, that ones own frame of mind comes into play. If you only have a week or two, then I can see it being stressfull taking a chance on a girl without getting that up from deal nailed down.
As regards "middle class" that is very relative. A girl who's family live in an actual house, albiet crumbling with a roof that leaks like a sieve, is in a much better situation than a family that lives in the cemetary or in a squatter slum / village. The real point is that, if you talk to them like a regular person, listen to what they have to say, smile at them, compliment them, show some empathy then many of these girls don't want to appear the working girl to you.
The standard of living that we would consider "middle class" here is solidly in the rich category. The hot rich girls here I always see with very handsome pinoy guys or ugly pinoy guys that are obviously from very wealthy families (yes, that young man is vastly obese, but that $10, 000 watch on his wrist sure is nice). These girls never even look at me.
By good job, I really mean ANY job. One girl I saw works as an assembler at an electrons company. She makes PHP 8, 000 per month. About $200 USD. Another is an agent in a call center making PHP 18, 000 per month. Both of these girls wouldn't even take taxi money the first time.
With this type of girl, if I feel she won't take anything on the second date, I will buy her something at Unisilver like a bracelet or neckless or something for P500 or P600. While I don't want to overpay, I don't want to be a total cheap charlie either.
Regarding looks, if the girl is willing to sit down with you and have a coke, or coffee, or jollibee or whatever, then you are good looking enouph for her. I just make sure that they know I'm not looking for a serious relationship before I get romantically charming, a little touchy feely (hand on her arm, touching her back, holding her hand, etc) , or see if she will go somewhere we can be alone. If she wants to keep hope maybe I will fall in love with in this process down the road, then that is her issue, I've given fair warning. I'm mid forties and rather fat. Perhaps my face is handsome, but I'm sure not winning anyone's stud contest.
If at any time a girl starts to scam me with sob stories or pumping me for large sums of piso or presents, I dump her forthwith. Once it starts it only gets worse. At that point, I go on the hunt for fresh action if I don't already have something in the back pocket.
David, I don't want to give you the impression that most of these girls I see won't take my money or that I don't give it. The majority of them need it and will take it. There are those girls, however, who its better to wait until the 2nd or 3rd "date" before you give them the full ST (for me thats P650 all-in) amount.
The important thing for the girl, is that in her mind she is not a prostitute. We didn't talk money up front, agree to any specific acts or any of that. We are friends. We are agreed that we will have an ongoing relationship and friendship. She has gifted me with sex. It is kind of me if I gift her with money later, but it is a kindness as we never stipulated that. Here they call this "special friends." She has given me something I need, and I have given her something she needs, without any specific demands. This is friendship no? This may be putting lipstick on the pig, but I'm I didn't create these girls psychology, I only take it as it comes.
Like they say in LOS: "up to you". I still think that 650 is on the cheap charlie side. I have never given less than 1000 (around $25) , which seems to be in line with most of the forum posters. I could very well be overpaying, but after seeing how some of these girls live, I don't mind the extra $10. Then again, I don't live in Cebu and your situation is probably a lot different than mine. I just didn't want sporadic visitors to Cebu to get the idea that 650 is what should be given a girl who has performed well. Just MHO. Everyone has their own idea on what to give the girls. If you are comfortable giving 650 and haven't been labeled as a koripot and someone to avoid by the girls, then its working for you. Anyway, there are also guys who have posted that are so clueless, they think that just because the girls don't ask for money, that means that they shouldn't give them a peso.
[QUOTE=Riverman; 1384039]Now that I've got my approach down, I'm sure it would work fine if I wasnt here full time. I do think, however, that ones own frame of mind comes into play. If you only have a week or two, then I can see it being stressfull taking a chance on a girl without getting that up from deal nailed down.
As regards "middle class" that is very relative. A girl who's family live in an actual house, albiet crumbling with a roof that leaks like a sieve, is in a much better situation than a family that lives in the cemetary or in a squatter slum / village. The real point is that, if you talk to them like a regular person, listen to what they have to say, smile at them, compliment them, show some empathy then many of these girls don't want to appear the working girl to you.
The standard of living that we would consider "middle class" here is solidly in the rich category. The hot rich girls here I always see with very handsome pinoy guys or ugly pinoy guys that are obviously from very wealthy families (yes, that young man is vastly obese, but that $10, 000 watch on his wrist sure is nice). These girls never even look at me.
By good job, I really mean ANY job. One girl I saw works as an assembler at an electrons company. She makes PHP 8, 000 per month. About $200 USD. Another is an agent in a call center making PHP 18, 000 per month. Both of these girls wouldn't even take taxi money the first time.
With this type of girl, if I feel she won't take anything on the second date, I will buy her something at Unisilver like a bracelet or neckless or something for P500 or P600. While I don't want to overpay, I don't want to be a total cheap charlie either.
Regarding looks, if the girl is willing to sit down with you and have a coke, or coffee, or jollibee or whatever, then you are good looking enouph for her. I just make sure that they know I'm not looking for a serious relationship before I get romantically charming, a little touchy feely (hand on her arm, touching her back, holding her hand, etc) , or see if she will go somewhere we can be alone. If she wants to keep hope maybe I will fall in love with in this process down the road, then that is her issue, I've given fair warning. I'm mid forties and rather fat. Perhaps my face is handsome, but I'm sure not winning anyone's stud contest.
If at any time a girl starts to scam me with sob stories or pumping me for large sums of piso or presents, I dump her forthwith. Once it starts it only gets worse. At that point, I go on the hunt for fresh action if I don't already have something in the back pocket.
David, I don't want to give you the impression that most of these girls I see won't take my money or that I don't give it. The majority of them need it and will take it. There are those girls, however, who its better to wait until the 2nd or 3rd "date" before you give them the full ST (for me thats P650 all-in) amount.
The important thing for the girl, is that in her mind she is not a prostitute. We didn't talk money up front, agree to any specific acts or any of that. We are friends. We are agreed that we will have an ongoing relationship and friendship. She has gifted me with sex. It is kind of me if I gift her with money later, but it is a kindness as we never stipulated that. Here they call this "special friends." She has given me something I need, and I have given her something she needs, without any specific demands. This is friendship no? This may be putting lipstick on the pig, but I'm I didn't create these girls psychology, I only take it as it comes.[/QUOTE]If the Philippines section had Reports of Distinction, I would nominate this and Riverman's immediately preceding post!
Riverman's recent post is one of the most well reasoned, forthright and honest opinions seen here in sometime. Regarding renumeration for services, he is spot on. So many guys here completely lack financial perspective. If one pays say, $100, for ST in US, that's equivalent to about one day's income. Here in Philippines, one day's income is about 300 pesos. So. 650 P is equal to two days wages. Two days wages for two hours company, is taking advantage? Hardly! Riverman, keep your posts coming. You have valuable insights.
Thanks, mate.
[QUOTE=Paul Kausch;1384057]If the Philippines section had Reports of Distinction, I would nominate this and Riverman's immediately preceding post![/QUOTE]The Philippine thread has Reports of Distinction, do you think we need a "Reports of Distinction" thread just for Cebu? I kind of like the idea.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2023-Links-to-Reports-of-Distinction[/url]
[QUOTE=Punter 127; 1384181]The Philippine thread has Reports of Distinction, do you think we need a "Reports of Distinction" thread just for Cebu? I kind of like the idea.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2023-Links-to-Reports-of-Distinction[/url][/QUOTE]Hmm, good question. On the one hand this report is generally applicable to the Philippines, not just Cebu, but on the other hand it's just one more thread, and on the other hand (how many hands does that make? Three. Hmm) well on the other hand that makes another perhaps unnecessary thread. What do other member's think. Do you agree the report is worthy of this most noble award?
The past few days I was bar hopping in Mango Ave. With my friend and went through pretty much all the bars.
Overall the quality didn't seem to be very good in most of the bars and I found Papillion to be the best one this time with the face value and friendliness of the girls.
Picked up a nice 22 years old girl who was quite inexperienced since her first time was just 7 months ago, but since she was absolutely a sweetheart (kind of like a girl you want as a girlfriend) it didn't matter, always looking after me whatever I will do or need. She's an awesome girl and will stay on my phone list for long time. She didn't have any rush to leave and we were together until 10AM. My friend also found a nice 5" girl who actually was with him until 6PM on the next day (eating, malling etc.).
On the second day we went through other bars that we missed on a night before, and this time I wanted to pick someone totally different.
If you have been to Dimples recently, you know their 'leading star' entertainer dancer (white skin, wearing black leather boots and different outfit from others) , when she dances everybody will vanish from the stage, a total 'bad' girl. I bought her some drinks earlier and she's really funny actually although she said that guys are afraid of her which I believe since she's a total pro and looks tight. She also said that she doesn't usually go out with customers since she is very very picky, if she doesn't like the guy there is no amount she will go. Well anyway she was totally wild in bed, but when talking later she's not so rough and tough, it's just an act which she sometimes forgets when your actually having a private conversation with her. And just a side note, Papillion and Dimples are under the same owner, so this girl was also dancing once in Papillion on the previous night since somebody requested. She even asked me how was my girl from Papillion last night LOL.
Well anyway, my time here is done for now.
But for work reasons I will be here 2-3 times a month, so I will definitely report here often.
[QUOTE=Questor 55; 1384079]Riverman's recent post is one of the most well reasoned, forthright and honest opinions seen here in sometime. Regarding renumeration for services, he is spot on. So many guys here completely lack financial perspective. If one pays say, $100, for ST in US, that's equivalent to about one day's income. Here in Philippines, one day's income is about 300 pesos. So. 650 P is equal to two days wages. Two days wages for two hours company, is taking advantage? Hardly! Riverman, keep your posts coming. You have valuable insights.
Thanks, mate.[/QUOTE]As I mentioned, the cheap charlies are going to love Riverman's posts because it gives them an excuse to keep on being cheap charlies. I think that paying 650 will work fine when one is in a 'take it or leave it' situation, when nothing has been agreed upon in advance. At the end of the time spent together, the girl in order not to lose face, won't say 'what a cheap Charlie Asshole (although that's what she is probably thinking) ', she'll just smile and take the 650. The question is, how far will you get say in Mango Square offering 650 pesos? You will go home alone.
Wages are depressed due to oversupply of labor and undersupply of jobs. So trying to excuse being a cheapskate by comparing 650 to what a shop girl earns isn't logical. The forum's resident economists might want to compare wages with what it costs to survive in Cebu. What does the Big Mac index show for example?
[QUOTE=David_33; 1384830]As I mentioned, the cheap charlies are going to love Riverman's posts because it gives them an excuse to keep on being cheap charlies. I think that paying 650 will work fine when one is in a 'take it or leave it' situation, when nothing has been agreed upon in advance. At the end of the time spent together, the girl in order not to lose face, won't say 'what a cheap Charlie Asshole (although that's what she is probably thinking) ', she'll just smile and take the 650. The question is, how far will you get say in Mango Square offering 650 pesos? You will go home alone.
Wages are depressed due to oversupply of labor and undersupply of jobs. So trying to excuse being a cheapskate by comparing 650 to what a shop girl earns isn't logical. The forum's resident economists might want to compare wages with what it costs to survive in Cebu. What does the Big Mac index show for example?[/QUOTE]Actually comparing 650 to what a girl can make in 2 or three days of 12 hour a day labor is very fair. The Big Mac Index, however, is not fair. A Big Mac is a luxury; one does not need a Big Mac to survive. A more apt index would be the Rice Index. PHP 650 will buy alot of rice. And as most of my girls are very happy to see me again and again, that 650 is multiplied many times over. Not to mention the fact, if the girl is very good and sweet to me and never tries to scam me or give me undue drama (beyond what is normal the female of the species) , I am not unwilling to help them as legitimate needs arise.
Another unfair comparison is the mango thing. I never gave my approach as being appropriate to mango. When dealing with a more mercenary and experienced prostitute, of course they are going for maximum return on their assests. And another factor is time. If you don't have time to hunt, then paying extra for the convenience of an assured score is understandable.
I do find your vaguely negative and condensending attitude a bit strange. I guess there are better-than-thou petty moralists in every bunch. Even a bunch of working girl mongers.
[QUOTE=Paul Kausch;1384197]Hmm, good question. On the one hand this report is generally applicable to the Philippines, not just Cebu, but on the other hand it's just one more thread, and on the other hand (how many hands does that make? Three. Hmm) well on the other hand that makes another perhaps unnecessary thread. What do other member's think. Do you agree the report is worthy of this most noble award?[/QUOTE]Yet another new thread, hell no. Have a look at all the empty new threads we have got already.
[QUOTE=Riverman;1385383]Even a bunch of working girl mongers.[/QUOTE]Well sorry, but that is what is mostly on this forum. And if these guys don't know any better, listen to you and start offering 650 pesos to the girls they meet in the normal P4P locations, they will get shot down quickly. In my opinion, paying a girl 650 is being a cheap charlie. The guys I know who both live and visit Cebu, are paying around what I do (1000 or $25) or more. Of course this could be a function of the fact that I don't like to hang around with cheapskates, who knows? Many girls have complained to me about guys they have met online or wherever who only gave them chump change (around 500) or didn't even pay for their taxi. I will certainly keep paying what for me is a normal and reasonable amount. You can keep being a kuripot.
[QUOTE=David_33;1385591]Well sorry, but that is what is mostly on this forum. And if these guys don't know any better, listen to you and start offering 650 pesos to the girls they meet in the normal P4P locations, they will get shot down quickly. In my opinion, paying a girl 650 is being a cheap charlie. The guys I know who both live and visit Cebu, are paying around what I do (1000 or $25) or more. Of course this could be a function of the fact that I don't like to hang around with cheapskates, who knows? Many girls have complained to me about guys they have met online or wherever who only gave them chump change (around 500) or didn't even pay for their taxi. I will certainly keep paying what for me is a normal and reasonable amount. You can keep being a kuripot.[/QUOTE]Your welcome to your opinion, but its not the only one.
And I guess your a rather dim bulb as I never offered this approach as being suitable for normal P4P locations (quite the opposite) , but you keep carping as if I did.
For those lacking in time or inclination to do as I described, by all means, paying P1 or P1. 5K for ST action is both reasonable and appropriate.
However, there are girls who are not regular denziens of those locals, who are nice and attractive and who are willing and satisfied with less. Your inane carping and arrogance do not change this fact.
[QUOTE=Ebauche;1383598]You should be grateful you don't have to fuck my wife.[/QUOTE]Just kidding but that was a pretty good reply.
[QUOTE=Riverman;1385899]For those lacking in time or inclination to do as I described.[/QUOTE]
You didn´t describe anything, you bragged about underpaying naive girls that you have been able to pick up in malls. Mall hunting has been written about dozens of times on the forum. You said nothing new, and IMHO nothing worthwhile. I would rate it up there with your brilliant idea of having a girl fork out for a passport in order to check her age.
[QUOTE=Riverman;1385899]Your inane carping and arrogance do not change this fact.[/QUOTE]
Cheap Charlies are always defensive.
I give girls that I meet in the mall (including those that work there) and girls from DIA 500p after a short visit if it includes sex, and I always pay for their Jeepney ride back to the mall. Most of these girls are not really working girls and some won't have sex on the first visit. When they do have sex many of them get very upset when you try to give them money as they don't want to be considered a hooker. So I make up a reason for giving them money, and they're normally very eager for a return visit.
Girls that ask in advance 'what's in it for me' or set a price I avoid, because there are so many normal willing girls available here. I suspect there are more guys [b]that live in Cebu[/b] who give 500p to this type of girl than there is who give them 1000k plus. Many of the guys that visit here have a what the hell it's only $10 and I'm on vacation attitude. For others I think overpaying is a way of dealing with compunction.
I don't think 500k is out of line, after all there are bars in AC that you can pull a girl for short time for 700p and that includes bar fine, so how for off the norm could 500p be? If a girl is looking for money in exchange for sex then she should set her price before hand or accept what's offered. IMHO
The DIA girls that want to come over to your hotel are looking to get paid right?
Whenever I suggest meeting at a mall they say "no, only at your hotel"
I have become paranoid about scams after reading through the "Avoiding Freelancer Scams and Extortions" threads, so I try to meet them on neutral territory first.
[QUOTE=Borisut;1386443]The DIA girls that want to come over to your hotel are looking to get paid right?[/QUOTE]Tell them you have their 650 pesos waiting for them and let us know what happens.
[QUOTE=Punter 127;1386209]after all there are bars in AC that you can pull a girl for short time for 700p and that includes bar fine, so how for off the norm could 500p be?[/QUOTE]What does that have to do with Cebu? Which bar in Cebu costs 700p for ST?
[QUOTE=David_33;1386490]What does that have to do with Cebu? Which bar in Cebu costs 700p for ST?[/QUOTE]I only mentioned AC as an example of Filipina's offering FS for 500p or less (after the bars cut) also I think the AC cost of living is similar, and both places are after all in the Philippines.
I rarely go to bars in Cebu because I think they're overpriced, perhaps because of the willingness of visitors to overpay. Also because of the availability of what I consider to be a much higher caliber of girl. I can however tell you that I've been offered sex on the streets of Cebu for as low as 300p.
In retrospect I probably shouldn't have mentioned bars at all as my post was really about internet and mall girls that are not p4p, sorry.
I do have a bit of good news, I've been told that most girls will let you give them more if it makes you feel better. 'Up to you' as they say here, a simple little saying that I wish others would embrace.
I might at times explain to someone that I think they overpaid, not to criticize but as an attempt to educate, but at the end of the day what another guy pays is really no skin off my nose.
What I don't understand is why when you think a guy has underpaid you react as if someone had poked you in the eye with a stick. What's up with that?
[QUOTE=Punter 127;1387016]I do have a bit of good news, I've been told that most girls will let you give them more if it makes you feel better. 'Up to you' as they say here, a simple little saying that I wish others would embrace.[/QUOTE]There is a very useful book available from National Book Store called "Understanding Filipino Values, a Management Approach, by Tomas D. Andres.
He says the following and I think we all should take note of it.
'Foreigners have frequently pointed out that equivocation, 'white lies', and euphemistic discourse to avoid unpleasant truths are characteristically Filipino, making an attempt to not embarrass or displease other persons. The Filipino anticipates and gives the expected answer, avoiding if possible a negative reply.
Hence, a question by a person seeking a positive answer concerning for example the quantity of payment for services rendered will invariably be answered with 'It's up to you. ' '
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1387040]There is a very useful book available from National Book Store called "Understanding Filipino Values, a Management Approach, by Tomas D. Andres.
He says the following and I think we all should take note of it.
'Foreigners have frequently pointed out that equivocation, 'white lies', and euphemistic discourse to avoid unpleasant truths are characteristically Filipino, making an attempt to not embarrass or displease other persons. The Filipino anticipates and gives the expected answer, avoiding if possible a negative reply.
Hence, a question by a person seeking a positive answer concerning for example the quantity of payment for services rendered will invariably be answered with 'It's up to you. ' '[/QUOTE]Very interesting and I'm sure the book is a very insightful analysis.
In this case I was suggesting (or hoping) the words of the Filipino saying be literally embraced by members of this forum.
Thanks for your input.
[QUOTE=David_33;1384049]Like they say in LOS: "up to you". I still think that 650 is on the cheap charlie side. I have never given less than 1000 (around $25) , which seems to be in line with most of the forum posters. I could very well be overpaying, but after seeing how some of these girls live, I don't mind the extra $10. Then again, I don't live in Cebu and your situation is probably a lot different than mine. I just didn't want sporadic visitors to Cebu to get the idea that 650 is what should be given a girl who has performed well. Just MHO. Everyone has their own idea on what to give the girls. If you are comfortable giving 650 and haven't been labeled as a koripot and someone to avoid by the girls, then its working for you. Anyway, there are also guys who have posted that are so clueless, they think that just because the girls don't ask for money, that means that they shouldn't give them a peso.[/QUOTE]IMO, David's post is more POD worthy. He pays the going rate for non-pro sessions and paying less is kuripot style. I agree 100 percent with the comment on guys who think because a girl doesn't ask for money the time spent together was a 'freebie' or she doesn't want money. Newbies should take note of the advice posted by D33, but many don't.
Just a little tidbit of info on this subject. I attended a family function along with a filipina back in 2010. I was her guest at the function and I met one of her cousins. Turns out the cousin was also into dating foreigners and asked me to hook her up with some of my friends. She talked my ear off and told me some stories of the foreign guys she dated-dates and showed me pics on her iphone. She mentioned she has a daughter and also mentioned her husband. At this point I stopped her because I was confused why she was dating foreigners if she was already married. Turns out she broke up with her Filipino husband shortly after the birth of her daughter and then her husband was arrested and is now serving time.
Anyways it seems she is paying for her education through dating foreigners she meets online. She told me stories of guys who promise to take good care of her blah blah blah and then after the session refuse to pay up or give her what she feels is enough. She told me she dated a guy from California who was rich and was very gwapo but never paid her anything. She told me her child can't eat love and the Uni doesn't accept good will. Only cash will do. She decided to fix him. So during one session suddenly there was loud knocking at the hotel room door and then the door opened. Standing in the door was the hotel manager and two PNP officers. Turns out she also has a cousin who is a PNP officer and they burst into the hotel claiming to be her husbands family members. They took the guy to the station on fuente and when all was said and done the guy paid 50 000php to walk from the potential charge of adultery, which is a real and punishable offense in the Philippines The guy paid up BIG TIME for his kuripot style. The girl took her cut while her PNP cousin and his PNP friends took the rest.
When she told me the story it made me sit up and take notice. Later at the same function I was introduced to her PNP cousin and he seemed like a nice enough bloke but in the end it all comes down to money and how you treat people. I asked her how much she expected and the answer was,"atleast a blue note di ba but I'm no a GRO, I like blue note to go with imported blue eyes!".
Later in the taxi I asked my filipina about her cousin. She told me her cousin dates lots of foreigners and likes to have fun. She goes with guys that pay her and that her cousin has 'fixed' a few of the foreigners who refused to pay. One guy was a banker from Singapore and took her cousin to Boracay and considered the trip as payment. When he came back a few months later to visit the cousin he was served his blue note special.
[QUOTE=Riverman; 1384039]Now that I've got my approach down, I'm sure it would work fine if I wasnt here full time. I do think, however, that ones own frame of mind comes into play. If you only have a week or two, then I can see it being stressfull taking a chance on a girl without getting that up from deal nailed down.
As regards "middle class" that is very relative. A girl who's family live in an actual house, albiet crumbling with a roof that leaks like a sieve, is in a much better situation than a family that lives in the cemetary or in a squatter slum / village. The real point is that, if you talk to them like a regular person, listen to what they have to say, smile at them, compliment them, show some empathy then many of these girls don't want to appear the working girl to you.
The standard of living that we would consider "middle class" here is solidly in the rich category. The hot rich girls here I always see with very handsome pinoy guys or ugly pinoy guys that are obviously from very wealthy families (yes, that young man is vastly obese, but that $10, 000 watch on his wrist sure is nice). These girls never even look at me. By good job, I really mean ANY job. One girl I saw works as an assembler at an electrons company. She makes PHP 8, 000 per month. About $200 USD. Another is an agent in a call center making PHP 18, 000 per month. Both of these girls wouldn't even take taxi money the first time.
With this type of girl, if I feel she won't take anything on the second date, I will buy her something at Unisilver like a bracelet or neckless or something for P500 or P600. While I don't want to overpay, I don't want to be a total cheap charlie either.
Regarding looks, if the girl is willing to sit down with you and have a coke, or coffee, or jollibee or whatever, then you are good looking enouph for her. I just make sure that they know I'm not looking for a serious relationship before I get romantically charming, a little touchy feely (hand on her arm, touching her back, holding her hand, etc) , or see if she will go somewhere we can be alone. If she wants to keep hope maybe I will fall in love with in this process down the road, then that is her issue, I've given fair warning. I'm mid forties and rather fat. Perhaps my face is handsome, but I'm sure not winning anyone's stud contest.
If at any time a girl starts to scam me with sob stories or pumping me for large sums of piso or presents, I dump her forthwith. Once it starts it only gets worse. At that point, I go on the hunt for fresh action if I don't already have something in the back pocket.
David, I don't want to give you the impression that most of these girls I see won't take my money or that I don't give it. The majority of them need it and will take it. There are those girls, however, who its better to wait until the 2nd or 3rd "date" before you give them the full ST (for me thats P650 all-in) amount.
The important thing for the girl, is that in her mind she is not a prostitute. We didn't talk money up front, agree to any specific acts or any of that. We are friends. We are agreed that we will have an ongoing relationship and friendship. She has gifted me with sex. It is kind of me if I gift her with money later, but it is a kindness as we never stipulated that. Here they call this "special friends." She has given me something I need, and I have given her something she needs, without any specific demands. This is friendship no? This may be putting lipstick on the pig, but I'm I didn't create these girls psychology, I only take it as it comes.[/QUOTE]Riverman,
I think you are playing a risky game. Paying taxi money to filipinas only gets you so far. I also think buying jewelry for filipinas in-lieu of a bigger monetary payment, is directing these filipinas down a road that they reasonably believe leads to a serious relationship and marriage. No matter how many times you tell a filipina you don't want a serious relationship, your actions (jewelry and telling them they are beautiful and other compliments) keeps the dream alive for them.
Paying 1000php for a ST session with a filipina sends a message that you will treat them right and she will realize it's jerjer you're after. No matter how strongly the filipina objects to taking the money, in the end she will accept it. It sends a message you are not looking for a serious relationship. Sometimes when a filipina accepts the money she also accepts the fact you do not view her as a potential GF-Asawa and that's often harder for a filipina to get over.
In the end it's your life and your call.
[QUOTE=Sxxxx;1385436]Yet another new thread, hell no. Have a look at all the empty new threads we have got already.[/QUOTE]I agree with Sxxxx, no need for another thread. The Philippines ROD thread covers all Philippine threads and that includes the Cebu sub-section.
[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1387565]Riverman,
I think you are playing a risky game. Paying taxi money to filipinas only gets you so far. I also think buying jewelry for filipinas in-lieu of a bigger monetary payment, is directing these filipinas down a road that they reasonably believe leads to a serious relationship and marriage. No matter how many times you tell a filipina you don't want a serious relationship, your actions (jewelry and telling them they are beautiful and other compliments) keeps the dream alive for them.
Paying 1000php for a ST session with a filipina sends a message that you will treat them right and she will realize it's jerjer you're after. No matter how strongly the filipina objects to taking the money, in the end she will accept it. It sends a message you are not looking for a serious relationship. Sometimes when a filipina accepts the money she also accepts the fact you do not view her as a potential GF-Asawa and that's often harder for a filipina to get over.[/QUOTE]I have to agree with Stroker here on every point.
Even cheap trinkets send the wrong message, and when the "romantic thrill" of getting jewellery wears off then she cannot pawn the bling bling when she needs cash for food or other necessities. Small items of clothing are less "romantic" and may give her a bigger thrill.
It's cash all the way with these girls. And I agree with David33: a blue note is the minimum for a FL or even an everyday housewife woman just having some fun. Anything less is kuripot.
As stated elsewhere. 1500 is my minimum, and I am not swayed by anybody's arguments one way or the other. I'd rather give her 1500 to spend as she wishes than traipse along to a store and buy her jeans and other stuff. I never do that.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1387597]Small items of clothing are less "romantic" and may give her a bigger thrill.
I always give my dates 1 or 2K and if I want to see her again she gets a sexy brassiere. I carry a small bag of 34 and 36 C and D Cups on my travels and play Prince Charming to see if it fits. They love it and it is nice prelude to photos and lovemaking (. V.)
[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1387559]IMO, David's post is more POD worthy. He pays the going rate for non-pro sessions and paying less is kuripot style. I agree 100 percent with the comment on guys who think because a girl doesn't ask for money the time spent together was a 'freebie' or she doesn't want money. Newbies should take note of the advice posted by D33, but many don't.
She decided to fix him. So during one session suddenly there was loud knocking at the hotel room door and then the door opened. Standing in the door was the hotel manager and two PNP officers. Turns out she also has a cousin who is a PNP officer and they burst into the hotel claiming to be her husbands family members. They took the guy to the station on fuente and when all was said and done the guy paid 50 000php to walk from the potential charge of adultery, which is a real and punishable offense in the Philippines The guy paid up BIG TIME for his kuripot style. The girl took her cut while her PNP cousin and his PNP friends took the rest.
When she told me the story it made me sit up and take notice.[/QUOTE]We should all take notice of this and I too agree with David. With the exception of ST dorm girls who will go with you 700php (500 to the girl and 200 to the papasan) I always donate at least a blue note plus transport and usually a meal and / or some chocalate as well.
For what it's worth, IMHO I think the true test is whether or not the girl wants to see you again and, perhaps more importantly, if she's willing to introduce you to her gf's / cousins / etc. Treat them well and you will be rewarded 10 fold. Perhaps some of you will recall the corny old 80's Faberge Organics Shampoo TV ad that went something like "if you tell two friends, they'll tell two friends" and so on, and so on. I firmly believe that the same applies here to the girls, take good care of them and before you know it you'll have a contact list packed with names of reliable girls; your own harem if you will.
I'll second that. I'll go to the mall for a meal or if I need something, but taking the girl shopping is a royal pain. The last time I did it was for a swimsuit, but then she was so shy that I never got to see what she looked like in it. Later in the room I found out the reason why. No tits. LOL.
As for monetary "donations", I'll offer 1000 if I am less than 100% satisfied. If I get my way, and I get some photos, I'll offer 1500 or more.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1387597]SNIP.
As stated elsewhere. 1500 is my minimum, and I am not swayed by anybody's arguments one way or the other. I'd rather give her 1500 to spend as she wishes than traipse along to a store and buy her jeans and other stuff. I never do that.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Pip Jaeger; 1387908]For what it's worth, IMHO I think the true test is whether or not the girl wants to see you again and, perhaps more importantly, if she's willing to introduce you to her gf's / cousins / etc. Treat them well and you will be rewarded 10 fold.
I firmly believe that the same applies here to the girls, take good care of them and before you know it you'll have a contact list packed with names of reliable girls; your own harem if you will.[/QUOTE]Well said Pip
I do this and I have lots of fun as I can always ask them to bring a cute frined I see on their facebook page for example LOL.
My contacts are college girls who I then provide additional teaching on more 'interesting' subjects. As I said to Red Kilt am an educator who as yet remains unrecognised for his contribution to pinay education
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger;1388250]As I said to Red Kilt am an educator who as yet remains unrecognised for his contribution to pinay education[/QUOTE] LOL, if it helps WR, scores of us on ISG reading your reports and equally effective pics fully recognize your accomplishments in pinay (let alone mongerer) education.
Paying more money is not going to protect anyone from Filipinas who target foreigners for adultery scams. If anything, handing over more cash will only convince this type that the 'rich' foreigner is ripe for a scam carried out by her policeman cousin and his henchmen. The tricycle drivers banging this girl bareback are certainly not giving her blue notes for wearing her holes out. The fact that she doesn't consider herself a prostitute, and con artist, shows that she is hardened criminal. Most likely she worked at this scam together with her husband before he landed his tenure in jail.
Unfortunately, as undercover mongers and prostitutes increasingly use dating sites to conduct business, more misunderstandings and scams are likely to happen. One cannot assume that every foreign man on a dating site is a monger looking for cheap or 'free' sex. It can also be said that not all the women on the sites are necessarily freelance prostitutes. Therefore, when there is a situation where an undercover hooker trolls for foreigners and engages in sex without revealing her status or the price of her services there is bound to be some fallout when she suddenly demands payment after the guy drops his load. It is entirely possible that some of these guys thought that they were dealing with a normal situation where an all expenses paid trip to a vacation resort would be considered generous by their female companion.
The irony is that these scams are more likely to snare non-mongers. Mongers tend to shy away from mothers. They shun sagging mammary glands, birthed vaginas, and stretch marked bellies. Seasoned hobbyists are also unlikely to meet a Filipina on her terms in her territory for obvious reasons.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt;1387597]I have to agree with Stroker here on every point. Even cheap trinkets send the wrong message[/QUOTE]I learned that lesson the hard way. I had a regular in Davao for several trips. I was completely clear that there was no possibility of a long term relationship or marriage, but of course they hope in their heart of hearts. Obviously, seeing her on multiple trips and staying in contact in between made it a de facto LTR.
The other mistakes I made were buying her a pair of earrings after she lost one on a day trip and taking her out to dinner with another ISG member and his GF. Those might not have been as big a deal if I had done it when we first met, but the fact it was my third trip gave it a lot more weight in her eyes.
After that, it was clear she was hooked even though she tried not to show it. It would take a meaner SOB than me to keep that game going. I told her before I left that we couldn't be together and while I was away I told her that I was planning to get engaged. That was the end of it.
That's also why I don't like to be on the dating sites too far in advance of trip. The time you have to invest in keeping them warm let's them build romantic fantasies. Next thing you know they are trying to show you how loveable their kids are. I had to delay one of my trips by a month and paid the price. In retrospect, I should have just dropped out of sight for a few weeks and taken my chances on being able to sweet talk them afterward.
The other reason not to be online too early is they run out of things to say pretty damn fast.
SbySW
I stay in cebu 6 months a year. Since November 26, I have had sex with 37 first time girls. Out of the 37 new girls I was with. 32 of them have never been with a foreigner. The last new girl I met had been with a foreigner. He was a Japanese she met on the internet who took her virginity. The reason that the Philippines is a paradise for foreigners is that it is extremely hard to earn money here. The money you give to a girl usually goes to the family for basic needs, which includes food. Some of my girls are students who need tuition money.
I give the girl 1, 000 p. Short time which includes 2 rounds and is usually around 2-3 hours. If she stays overnight I give her 2, 000 p. In addition I give her 100 p. For transportation. Some of the girls take a jeep when they leave to save money, others do take a taxi. If she decides to bolt after 1 round; it has happened twice, I give her 500 plus the 100 for transportation.
Out of the 37 new girls I have had this trip, I have 10 who I repeat on a regular basis. These are the girls who I enjoy best. This does not include my 2 regular girlfriends who I don't pay for sex but I do help out with their various needs on request. I usually get between 3-6 requests for girls on a daily basis. Many of the girls I meet are the friends, sisters or cousins of the girls I have had sex with.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1387597]\It's cash all the way with these girls. And I agree with David33: a blue note is the minimum for a FL or even an everyday housewife woman just having some fun. Anything less is kuripot.
As stated elsewhere. 1500 is my minimum, and I am not swayed by anybody's arguments one way or the other. I'd rather give her 1500 to spend as she wishes than traipse along to a store and buy her jeans and other stuff. I never do that.[/QUOTE]I always gave p1000 to all my girls regardless working or not. Plus also gave sexy bra and panties or chocolate or cheap perfume or high heels or shorty shorts or cell phone load whatever whatever. All were happy to pose and every single girl was happy to come back for repeats.
[QUOTE=David_33;1385985]Cheap Charlies are always defensive.[/QUOTE]Not always!
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lgXHTKjN28[/url]
First and foremost thanks guys for all the great advice here in the Philippines sub-forum on ISG. It has been really helpful for my trip so far. Now that I am staying in Cebu City though. And although I have read a lot of the threads here from A to Z and made a shortlist of all the places to check out. The situation on the ground seems to be somewhat different from the posts in the forum.
Some observations from the last couple of days:
- The bars along Mango Avenue as well as Mavericks on Osmena Circle and Lone Star behind Mango Avenue are very quiet with usually only 1-2 girls dancing, girls look bored and a lot of them aren't attractive at all. They are also very scared about undercover guys and raids so you can only barfine if the girl tells the manager that she already knows you.
- Online dating on DIA is increadibly slow, the girls sometimes need 1-2 days to answer and I don't see much progress there. Sometimes they basically just repeat what they already said. Difficult to get a conversation going and subtle remarks about how they make their living and what they expect on DIA are usually overlooked. And since a lot of them write on their profile that they are looking for a relationship just asking them if they want to drop by for some additional pesos seems to be the wrong approach.
- I have visited the malls like Ayala Center and Robinson Mall as well (SM Mall tomorrow). In Ayala Center 5-7pm on a weekday there are a lot of normal people shopping so it is hard to figure out who is working. The only women that fit the description were sitting on the ground floor of the Terraces but those women were all 30-ish and very plain looking.
I am just 28, kind of good looking, fit and I dress well. So either I am doing something completely wrong here in Cebu (had no problems at all in places like Manila and, of course, Angeles) or the girls here a focused on old guys?
Maybe you have an answer for that or these questions:
- Which bar on Mango Avenue is the top location at the moment? I know this isn't Angeles but there has to be at least one place that is not almost dead, right?
- Any recommendations for online dating with girls in the city? Alternatives to DIA?
- Are there specific places in Ayala Center and other malls to look for working girls? I have heard of Bo's cafe so far, but Ayala is a huge place.
Thank you!
[QUOTE=GoPinay;1389505]- Online dating on DIA is incredibly slow, the girls sometimes need 1-2 days to answer and I don't see much progress there. Sometimes they basically just repeat what they already said. Difficult to get a conversation going and subtle remarks about how they make their living and what they expect on DIA are usually overlooked. And since a lot of them write on their profile that they are looking for a relationship just asking them if they want to drop by for some additional pesos seems to be the wrong approach.[/QUOTE]I can't speak to the questions about the conditions on the ground in Cebu. I'm not arriving until next week. But for the online dating, you're right, it is slow. Usually you do that a couple of weeks in advance to line up prospects. I've used DIA, Cherry Blossoms, and Filipino Cupid. When I was visiting regularly I'd rotate between them. DIA has better quality girls, I think, but they are more focused on relationships and marriage.
The way you phrase it sounds like you are really looking for P4P on the dating sites. Many of the women would be eager to meet a young foreign guy without needing to lure them with money.
I have used the dating sites occasionally while in country if there is a break in the texts. Setting up a new profile can get a lot messages, but it can take a day or two to get reviewed and approved. The key to a fast response is to be clear in your ad that you are in Cebu right now. I usually have something like "Just landed in Cebu" as the intro and treat the body like an earlier travel announcement."Planning to travel to Cebu in late Feb. 2013. Looking for. '
Just move it as fast as you can from online to text messages to in person.
Good luck in the hunt.
SbySW
GoPinay, if you did all right in Manila and AC, why did you risk going to Cebu? Go back to AC. As one of the "old guys" you mention, I would ask: If you are young and fairly good looking, what are you doing on ISG in the first place?
[QUOTE=GoPinay;1389505]First and foremost thanks guys for all the great advice here in the Philippines sub-forum on ISG. It has been really helpful for my trip so far. Now that I am staying in Cebu City though. And although I have read a lot of the threads here from A to Z and made a shortlist of all the places to check out. The situation on the ground seems to be somewhat different from the posts in the forum.[/quote]Read post #6255 on the [b]General Information[/b], Cebu section.
I saw this and it made me LOL. Directly relates to my ISG experience.
[U][b]ASKHOLE[/U]
-a person that constantly asks for advice, yet always does the opposite of what you told them. [/b]
[QUOTE=David_33;1390011]GoPinay, if you did all right in Manila and AC, why did you risk going to Cebu? Go back to AC. As one of the "old guys" you mention, I would ask: If you are young and fairly good looking, what are you doing on ISG in the first place?[/QUOTE]I am in Cebu because I actually want to see the Philippines and not just Manila and AC. I will go island hopping in a few days and then back to Manila in a month or so. Therefore Cebu with its "big" airport was the obvious choice to get to the Visayas quickly.
I am not exclusively looking for P4P, but I just like to have some fun from time to time and I really don't mind support the girls or whatever you want to call it. On DIA, FilipinoCupid etc. I generally only approach girls who post certain more revealing pictures or have set up their profile in a way that makes you think that they make money on the side. I don't think it is fair to play with girls who are actually looking for a relationship or even marriage since that is certainly not what I have in mind.
[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88;1390156]Read post #6255 on the [b]General Information[/b], Cebu section.[/QUOTE]That would be a post about STD's? Ok, but I have been to plenty of other countries in the region. Nothing new there.
[QUOTE=GoPinay;1390349]That would be a post about STD's? Ok, but I have been to plenty of other countries in the region. Nothing new there.[/QUOTE]Post #6255 is not about STD's. The subject matter deals directly with your Q's and I posted it so I should know.
You need to go RTFF and do alittle work for yourself.
Amen. Some folks gets so uptight. On the Manila forum someone made a mistake of asking about some tourist activities. He got literally flamed. I don't know why. Especially, if you don't like to get s*face at the bars, Phils can be boring. What is wrong with helping and guiding your fellow monger?
[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1390165]I saw this and it made me LOL. Directly relates to my ISG experience.
[U][b]ASKHOLE[/U]
-a person that constantly asks for advice, yet always does the opposite of what you told them. [/b][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1390856]Post #6255 is not about STD's. The subject matter deals directly with your Q's and I posted it so I should know.
You need to go RTFF and do alittle work for yourself.[/QUOTE]Ummmm, depending on individual settings, I don't believe everyone sees the same numbering.
This is the #6255 that I see:
[QUOTE=ILuvCebu;73882]FD -
I know the probability of obtaining a STD or STI depend on numerous and various type of factors, however I wasn't stating a probability or an assumption that everyone is at equal risk - that is not the case.
I was just merely trying to say that if you have sex with someone regardless if they are considered high-risk or not - the FACT is you will acquire an STD/STI or you will not - and that it what I meant by 50/50.
If you want me to elaborate on the stats. and different probabilities, I don't mind at all... but I think now you understand what I meant in the original post.
According to the WHO, The Philippines remains a low HIV prevalence country (2002).
Anyway, might be an interesting read to some...
http://www.who.int/emc-hiv/fact_sheets/pdfs/Philippines_EN.pdf
ILuvCebu[/QUOTE]
Best to provide a link to the post to avoid confusion. But, RTFF is always an excellent path!
[QUOTE=Ebauche; 1391365]Ummmm, depending on individual settings, I don't believe everyone sees the same numbering.
This is the #6255 that I see:
Best to provide a link to the post to avoid confusion. But, RTFF is always an excellent path![/QUOTE]You are absolutely correct. I forgot every member has different settings, and in doing so posts get displayed from front-back and some back-front. My bad and I apologize.
Honestly I was tired of providing links to members with under 25 posts. Sometimes providing instant and on-demand info results in newbies who don't take the time to RTFF. They often come back awhile later to scream bad info was provided.
[QUOTE=Mbsl65;1391348]Amen. Some folks gets so uptight. On the Manila forum someone made a mistake of asking about some tourist activities. He got literally flamed. I don't know why. Especially, if you don't like to get s*face at the bars, Phils can be boring. What is wrong with helping and guiding your fellow monger?[/QUOTE]IMO the guy was rightly flamed. He was sourcing tripadvisor and asking a billion and one touristy questions. None consisted of GF hotels or available semi pro action. Basically the standard questions on the forum. The guy sounded like he was possibly writing a tourist book and wanted to mine info from members here. Some of the older ISG guys take offence if they feel a guy is not on the same page as other members.
Telling him to get lost was justified but that's just my 2 centavos.
Following on from my report on my stay in Davao, I arrived in Cebu City on the last day of Sinulog, which was pretty crazy. Naturally it affected my mongering activities. I went down the taxi driver route again. As the centre was closed off, we ended up in Banilad. Went to one of those houses in the slum areas. There wasn't a great choice. Think I turned one down because she looked too young. They wanted me to pay up front there too but I stood my ground. Ended up with one who was a skinny single mum in her 20's. Light skinned and quite pretty facially. Can't remember exactly how much we agreed either or her story but think she was from somewhere in the Visayas. Was semi shaven but its a bit saggy. Service was average from what I remember. Pics were ok but a bit reluctant. Offered her the preggo girl setup commission and exchanged numbers.
The hotel I stayed at was the Valleyfront in uptown. Not far from Osmena. I had ensured they were girl-friendly when booking. The room was ok but not outstanding. Was expensive due to Sinulog though. Staff were really great. Also, interestingly, I saw 'short time' hotel business for the first time. Interesting to watch big SUV's with tinted windows come in and then the lady would come in later or before, sometimes on foot. Crazy stuff. Anyway, I tried to check out a few establishments that have been written about but couldn't be bothered as locals didn't seem to think there would be much action there. Mainly Mango Ave. I was told that on Juana Osmena st girls stand outside this hotel (I forgot the name) after 8/9pm. I went there too early one day and had no luck but just thought I would mention it.
No contact from the prev girl with a preggo girl the next day and no one at all standing around on Colon, which is another documented pick up spot. The taxi driver said Junquera st is usually active. No one there either, but we found another slum house place on Junquera. Involved more waiting around etc. Eventually got another skinny, darker skinned girl who was not a good looker at all. Spoke good english though. Can't remember what we agreed price wise but pretty sure it wasn't more than 1000PHP for 2 hrs. Her pussy was lightly haired so didn't bother shaving. Had a worrying sore above her pussy. Nice tramp stamp too. Service was pretty decent and pics not a prob. The preggo girl commission discussion was promising as she said her roommate at the slum house was quite far pregnant. Exchanged numbers etc and she would sort it. Needless to say I never heard from her again. No more action that day.
Next day, mainly due to not much luck with other methods of finding girls, I ended up at the same slum place in Junquera. I initially went looking for the girl day before in order to get the preggo girl, but was told they had gone out together. They eventuall sourced me another girl. She was quite a hottie and spoke good english, but soon realised she did have personality issues as she kept slipping into a mode where she would be oblivious to the outside world and seemed to talk to herself. Might just be OCD for all I know. Bit of a nightmare to choreograph her in the bedroom though! Nice tatts on her front and upper back. Fully shaven and very flexible! Trying to get her to do stuff took twice as long as any other girl. Not sure if she was on something or not or if she was worth the hassle. Oral and sex were decent. She also said she had a preggo friend (not same one as the girl day before). Exchanged numbers and this time she did call me later. Arranged for them both to come over. Was a disaster as I fell asleep but she also couldn't find the hotel. Didn't find this out till she called me the next day.
As I was leaving that day, I had no plan to see anyone. After the call from the crazy girl offering the preggo girl, I buckled. I made a few schedule changes as my flight wasn't till late afternoon. Picked her up from uni (seemed like her 'secret' story that she was actually a student was true!). Met up with the preggo girl who was older (mid 30's and didn't speak good english). Was worried about the service levels due to the language prob. Agreed I would pay the preggo girl the commission afterwards. Dropped the crazy girls off and headed to the hotel. This girl was amazing and the preggo bit enhanced the experience. Petite and well-proportioned, though tits a bit lopsided. Agreed to semi-shave during the shower. Pussy was a bit worse for wear as had a couple of kids previously. Oral was decent and sex ok. Like the other girls, anal was refused. Soon after she left I was packed, checked out and on the way to the airport.
A decent stay but not the most prolific place for P4P in my experience, especially FL's, which is my main thing. My usual position regarding posting the pics remains the same.
[QUOTE=Donnylad;1393231]I was told that on Juana Osmena st girls stand outside this hotel (I forgot the name) after 8/9pm. I went there too early one day and had no luck but just thought I would mention it.[/QUOTE]I live just off Juana Osmena. I'm surprised you didn't find anything there, unless you were very early. There are usually several at various places on the street pretty much any time after dark.
When I am walking home from Fuente, I am often approached in the 7-11 parking lot or just north of it. There might also sometimes be a girl or two across the street outside the National Bookstore. Further north, outside the beauty salon (closed at that time) just north of Baseline, there will usually be one or two, and I have often seen as many as six-seven. At the intersection of Mango and Maria Cristina, there will often be one or two on one of the corners. Further north (toward Escario) there will occasionally be one, but I would recommend the Mango end of the street for the best hunting.
I'm not sure how late the action goes, because I'm not a late-night person, but one night recently I had to go to the airport at 1am to meet friends coming in on a delayed flight and I walked to the Maria Cristina corner to get a taxi. There was one girl working that corner. Can't say about the rest of the street.
As is usual with street action, the numbers and quality can vary greatly, but some are nice-looking. I have never partaken of the offers here, but I have asked prices a few times. They usually ask 800 or 1000, but any show of reluctance brings the price down quickly. Five hundred is the lowest I've heard offered.
[QUOTE=Donnylad;1393231]The taxi driver said Junquera st is usually active. No one there either, but we found another slum house place on Junquera.[/QUOTE]Where on Junquera?
Maxwell hotel good place room about 35 a night on and Escario st.
[QUOTE=YellowStar45;1394100]Maxwell hotel good place room about 35 a night on and Escario st.[/QUOTE]With only 7 posts and almost every one mentioning this hotel, I'm calling [b]SHILL! [/b]
The street between National Book Store (Mango) and Escario Street is called Osmena Extension on local maps. It's best on.
Friday and Saturday nights after 9pm. There are at least 3 groups of girls with mamasans and a couple of loners if you walk the whole street.
I never pay over 700p and usually just get the girl's cell# and pay 500p for repeat sessions.
Enjoy,
Cheapy
[QUOTE=Azil; 1394012]I live just off Juana Osmena. I'm surprised you didn't find anything there, unless you were very early. There are usually several at various places on the street pretty much any time after dark.
When I am walking home from Fuente, I am often approached in the 7-11 parking lot or just north of it. There might also sometimes be a girl or two across the street outside the National Bookstore. Further north, outside the beauty salon (closed at that time) just north of Baseline, there will usually be one or two, and I have often seen as many as six-seven. At the intersection of Mango and Maria Cristina, there will often be one or two on one of the corners. Further north (toward Escario) there will occasionally be one, but I would recommend the Mango end of the street for the best hunting.
I'm not sure how late the action goes, because I'm not a late-night person, but one night recently I had to go to the airport at 1am to meet friends coming in on a delayed flight and I walked to the Maria Cristina corner to get a taxi. There was one girl working that corner. Can't say about the rest of the street.
As is usual with street action, the numbers and quality can vary greatly, but some are nice-looking. I have never partaken of the offers here, but I have asked prices a few times. They usually ask 800 or 1000, but any show of reluctance brings the price down quickly. Five hundred is the lowest I've heard offered.[/QUOTE]
I don't doubt what you're saying about local maps, Cheapy, but I've never heard it called anything but Juana Osmena, that's what Google Maps calls it, and cab drivers always know exactly what I mean when I give it as my destination.
I agree about the prices.
[QUOTE=Azil; 1394845]I don't doubt what you're saying about local maps, Cheapy, but I've never heard it called anything but Juana Osmena, that's what Google Maps calls it, and cab drivers always know exactly what I mean when I give it as my destination.
I agree about the prices.[/QUOTE]Alot of locals call it "J Osmena". Fairly common.
Some of the younger locals call it "J-Os". Maybe it's a play on J-Ave?
Typical conversation goes something like this;"I live on J-Os, just near Mango and behind Cebu Docs".
After my first couple of days and nights out in Cebu, I have to say that I am somewhat disappointed. For years I have read on the forum about the Ayala Mall and the clubs of Mango Ave, which had become legend. To be fair, my expectations may have loomed a little too large. Compared to other places that I have visited in the world, though, here is my impression:
I would echo what other forum posters have stated in that the PI is definitely more 'third world' then other places in SE Asia, or any other destination for that matter. Open poverty is just at another level here, which to tell you the truth, made me feel a little out of place. Other travelers who have never been here should be prepared for that.
The famed Ayala Mall is an average mall by North American standards, but my PI standards, is probably luxurious. Everything is very affordable here. Got an unlocked cell phone with 30 min credit for about $28. Forget the food court. The outer rim of the mall is lined by terraces which have nicer restaurants that have fantastic food for cheap. Not that they are divey. Think of your average mall with a TGI Fridays along the side. (In fact, there is one here.) I ate like a king for about $12, and I have a very big appetite. Someone with an average appetite could probably get by with less. I went to Bo's Coffee, which is a local coffee chain not unlike Starbucks. Definitely saw the foreigners here, but didn't get the impression that it was a pickup joint. In fact, I was only solicited once at the mall as a whole. It really just feels like an above average American mall. But because everything else here is so dodgy, it becomes the focal point for anyone with even an average income.
At night, visited some of the bars on Mango. Vikings is an average pickup bar. The women are very average. 5's or 6's at best. Despite that, they don't circulate like they should. Bars like this have gone the Korean route. It's not that they are being assholes for spoiling them. The girly circuit is different there. It's based on what is called the 'Room Salon, ' a very common set up / institution where a group of men pay pretty girls to drink with you and entertain you with their company. It's usually an after work thing, often for entertaining business clients. Sex is possible, but not necessarily assured. Girls only come when you call them over. If they are sent over sight unseen, they are usually very attractive. I suspect that Koreans view the PI as a place where Room Salons are cheaper. Unfortunately, this system makes the girls more aloof, and unlike what most westerners want, which I suspect are girls straddling the line of being forward when they detect that a guy likes them. And their mastery of that skill is what separates good clubs from the bad ones.
Overall, I was very unimpressed by any of the bars on Mango. Vikings was the best layout wise, but otherwise, that's not saying much. None of these bars would even rate compared to those in Thailand. One exception could be Arena, which has a much more elaborate, showroom / runway type layout. There were 1 or 2 girls here who were very good looking, an 8, with the Asian pop star look. However, I suspect that they were not really available, and just there to dance and 'wet the palate. ' The remaining girls were about 6's. This place was much more expensive, about 5-6x more expensive. Enjoyed the show when the 8's were dancing, after that, I took off not soon after.
I came to the PI as part of a larger, multi-destination trip. Looking forward to doing tourist things, like diving and seeing some cockfights. I can't speak to the girlfriend scene, but as a girly destination, somewhat disappointing. Unless you are staying here for an extended time, would probably recommend Thailand instead.
Hi Manny,
Thanks for your FR! It is not fair trying to compare Cebu with other SE Asian destinations. There are loads of girls here and it can take time to find them but they tend to appear in the least likely places! I still believe Cebu is the GFE capital of SE Asia!
Yeah Mango Avenue bikini bars have been going steadily downhill the past few years. They can be good one night and lame the next. Try checking out a few bars just off Mango Avenue, namely Lonestar, Temptations and Mavericks. The fun factor is greater as the girls are proactive.
Many of the BG from Arena and other clubs end up at J-Ave in Mango Square after 1:00 AM. If you can bare the loud music and you have a few moves, it's easy pickings! Check out IT Park after dark at a spot called "The Walk", where there are several restaurants and bars. This is ground zero for the call center industry and there are more then a few coffee shops well stocked with female agents.
One of the best cockpits is Galleria de Mandaue. Very safe venue for foreigners. They are straight shooters and trustworthy with your bets.
If you are going down to Oslob, try to get there ultra early (5:00 AM) as you will wait for hours if you show up later!
Enjoy Cebu!
[QUOTE=Buko Max; 1401959]Hi Manny,
Thanks for your FR! It is not fair trying to compare Cebu with other SE Asian destinations. There are loads of girls here and it can take time to find them but they tend to appear in the least likely places! I still believe Cebu is the GFE capital of SE Asia!
Yeah Mango Avenue bikini bars have been going steadily downhill the past few years. They can be good one night and lame the next.
One of the best cockpits is Galleria de Mandaue. Very safe venue for foreigners. They are straight shooters and trustworthy with your bets.
If you are going down to Oslob, try to get there ultra early (5:00 AM) as you will wait for hours if you show up later!
Enjoy Cebu![/QUOTE]Thanks for the feedback. I did end up going to see a cockfight at a place called the Tejero Stadium, or something like that. It was safe and very cool. I also did the Oslob whale shark thing. Getting down there was a pain, but it was worth every minute of pain and every dollar. Incredible experience.
Too bad I didn't have time to check out the places you recommended. My sense of the PI is that it is more for serious LTR, rather than immediate fun. To each his own.
And by the way, my overall impression of the PI is that it was quite safe. I went to see a cockfight in another out of the way stadium, a place called Muahayahay Stadium. It was in a very dodgey area, and I wouldn't recommend anyone going there. But that would be because it was very impovershed and kind of stinky, but never dangerous. Everyone was very helpful. I don't know where this rep of danger comes from in the PI. I never sensed it at all.
I can see though why people think the PI isn't "going" anywhere. On my way into town from the airport, I saw this restaurant burning to the ground, like flames high in the air, serious fire. Then three blocks further down, there was a fire station, and all the fire engines were parked, all the lights dark, everyone sleeping. The taxi driver said this is common. Gee.
All is still in full swing and the "Bulaos" = Pimps are more helpful then ever.
One evening went to Sangciango / Paelez street. The pub "My Place was good for a beer and chat as warming up. Down at the road immediately saw a spinner with B-size tits (a rare show). Talked to her pimp with little nego agreed to 500 + 50 for him. He had to work hard to get that 50 because most of the short-time places were full. Took us 20 min cruising the area till we found a place for 200 PS. In the room, he got his share and left. The lass was quite inexperienced and shy. But deed with 2 shots was done in no hurry. Paid her the 500 and we both walked out happy.
One morning I walked at 7:30 at Osmena Circle and saw a girl sitting with her friend selling some stuff. Smiled at her and gave her a sign to walk towards me. She did. I asked her if 400 is ok. She smiled an ok. We grab a taxi to the Valley-hotel, less then 5 min drive. Room was 270. No questions asked at the reception and up we went. She told me she is in Cebu from province just since 4 days. Only had Pinoys before (so she said) and never got pussy liked. Once I introduced her to that art of excitement, she started to shiver and moan. Once her convulsion started I stuck my dick into her wet groove, pumped her in many positions and shoot finally onto her tits.
In Cebu : forget the bars with the overpriced and star-fish attitude girls, used to big-spender Koreans. Go for the FL's.
Was in Cebu for a night last week. I do love the girls of Cebu, so much nicer than the money focus of AC girls.
Flight arrived two hours late which meant I missed my first rendevous. Ended up meeting with two girls at my hotel. Excellent fun. These were referred from a previous contact.
Later that night headed out to meet up with a previous contact from another trip. This was the third time I have met this girl and still no sex. She is nice, she has something special but my trips are just too scarce to frig around with her anymore. We had some nice drinks at Slabadu and then she wouldn't come back to my hotel (says she knew the staff there) , she wanted to stay at Alpha Suites. At 1 am checked in for P2500 inc breakfast. Breakfast at Alpha is more Filipino than Western. Anyway, that's the end for this one.
Back at Marriott had a big breakfast then headed to Ayala to peruse the scene. Bo's is never going to be successful again. At the time I strolled past about 10:30, there was already 7-8 mongers sitting there waiting for the hotties. Well I can assure you there isn't going to be 7-8 girls wondering by at that time of the day. I didn't bother to hang around.
I sent off a few texts to my list of unknown DIA contacts. Ended up meeting the sister of a contact. Well actually met with the sister and her 20 year old daughter. Nothing spectacular to look at but after about 15 minutes the daughter mentions she used to work in a massage shop. P200 for a massage so I suggested we go back to the room to try out. A few minutes later I'm naked on the bed with the girl massaging me while mum watched. Once again this didn't go anywhere but for P200 it was worth a shot. Afterwards the texts kept flowing. I did of course realise it was the daughter texting me as her mum. She was promising quite a few things for next visit. That was really confusing me. Personally I'm not travelling to Cebu to fuck middle aged mother's of three. Nothing against them but I can do that at home.
In spite of the above mis-adventures I will certainly be back in Cebu. The people are friendlier and the right girls are exceptional which has been my previous experience.
BD
DIA is still working well for me. I just arrived a few days ago and have been fairly successful so far. Just one bad experience, with a "I have never done this before" girl crying and making a sad scene.
[QUOTE=Fritobugger;1419135]DIA is still working well for me. I just arrived a few days ago and have been fairly successful so far. Just one bad experience, with a "I have never done this before" girl crying and making a sad scene.[/QUOTE]Just for curiosity, what happened?
Gave her jeepney money and told her to go home.
[QUOTE=Mbsl65;1419160]Just for curiosity, what happened?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=X Man; 1419860]SR, If you find time can you do a trip report on Toledo?
I've been up in the mountains outside of Cebu and did some thinking about crossing over and then taking the ferry over to San Carlos, Negros and continue by bus around to Silay / Bacalod. Online there are a few Toledo girls that look interesting as well.
How did you get to Toledo, hotel experience, entertainment, ferry options if possible.
And yes, warm beer is one of the disappointments of venturing out to the provinces. LOL. X Man.[/QUOTE]Probably this is best dealt with here in the "Cebu" thread or "Other Areas" wouldn't you agree X Man?
(No, of course you wouldn't. No way would you agree with me).
I am a bit bemused about the ferry option for Toledo although I suppose if you had the time for an island hop via Negros and you were willing to risk any Filipino banca pilot's seamanship then go for it.
Toledo is a small community so best to monger outside of town away from the local gossip.
I have paid taxi fares for Toledo women to come to Cebu City to meet and the damage was a mere 250 php or thereabouts. I have been over the road myself and it is an easy road trip.
In most cases though, the cabbie wanted 500 php as a 2-way fare to take her home again at night because he would be unlikely to get a fare back to Cebu City. During the day the small jeepney / multicabs run back and forth.
Here is a Cebu Map for those needing Cebu orientation. Sorry it is small when uploaded here - I cannot find a way to make it larger. It's a good size on my computer. Just ignore the arrow for Danao. I borrowed the map from an advert for something in Danao.
I was in transit at Singapore on my way from London to Cebu on silk air, on seat next to me a young filipina lady 23yrs was sitting and gave me a smile, started of with a small talk, she was a domestic worker from Singapore whose contract had been terminated and was on her way to province in Cebu, she was going to hang around at bus terminal for 5 hours before she got her bus, as she did not want to spend money on hotel, being.
A gentelman, I promptly offered her a place to sleep in my room for the night. Initially she was reluctant, eventually agreed saying that she was virgin and did not want to give up her virginity, I assured her that I would not take her cherry against her wish, on reaching room after shower and couple of drinks lot of passionate DFK, BBBJ and 69 position followed, eventually I blew my load in her mouth and she swallowed every drop, during DATY I noticed that her hyaman was intact she was genuinely a virgin, but she kept on insisting that I sucked her nipples while she masturbated, in the morning, she said she was ready to give her cherry, provided I married her or had a long term relationship with her, I said to her that I can give no promise or any commitement, so all I got was a second blow job as good bye, and gave her 1000 pesos for taxi and bus journey
Pagal Chacha, congratulations on keeping your word and leaving her intact. Unfortunately I'm afraid that many others who post here would not have behaved in the same manner.
I've used a ferry to go from Dumaguete across to the west tip of cebu island. And then a frigid bus to C. City. THe ferry ride was short, I think it was about 15 minutes. The Toledo / San Carlos trip would be a bit longer. Here is a web page with some info.
[url]http://www.sancarloscity.org/gettingtosancarlos.htm[/url]
RK, thanks for the taxi info.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1420009]Probably this is best dealt with here in the "Cebu" thread or "Other Areas" wouldn't you agree X Man?
(No, of course you wouldn't. No way would you agree with me).
I am a bit bemused about the ferry option for Toledo although I suppose if you had the time for an island hop via Negros and you were willing to risk any Filipino banca pilot's seamanship then go for it.
Toledo is a small community so best to monger outside of town away from the local gossip.
I have paid taxi fares for Toledo women to come to Cebu City to meet and the damage was a mere 250 php or thereabouts. I have been over the road myself and it is an easy road trip.
In most cases though, the cabbie wanted 500 php as a 2-way fare to take her home again at night because he would be unlikely to get a fare back to Cebu City. During the day the small jeepney / multicabs run back and forth.
Here is a Cebu Map for those needing Cebu orientation. Sorry it is small when uploaded here. I cannot find a way to make it larger. It's a good size on my computer. Just ignore the arrow for Danao. I borrowed the map from an advert for something in Danao.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Pagal Chacha; 1420158]I was in transit at Singapore on my way from London to Cebu on silk air, on seat next to me a young filipina lady 23yrs was sitting and gave me a smile, started of with a small talk, she was a domestic worker from Singapore whose contract had been terminated and was on her way to province in Cebu, she was going to hang around at bus terminal for 5 hours before she got her bus, as she did not want to spend money on hotel, being.
A gentelman, I promptly offered her a place to sleep in my room for the night. Initially she was reluctant, eventually agreed saying that she was virgin and did not want to give up her virginity, I assured her that I would not take her cherry against her wish, on reaching room after shower and couple of drinks lot of passionate DFK, BBBJ and 69 position followed, eventually I blew my load in her mouth and she swallowed every drop, during DATY I noticed that her hyaman was intact she was genuinely a virgin, but she kept on insisting that I sucked her nipples while she masturbated, in the morning, she said she was ready to give her cherry, provided I married her or had a long term relationship with her, I said to her that I can give no promise or any commitement, so all I got was a second blow job as good bye, and gave her 1000 pesos for taxi and bus journey[/QUOTE]If it happened as you say, your a gentleman, great control, great character, ten out of ten!
She might not be so lucky with the next guy, LOL.
I am sure those of who have been to the Philippines and enjoy the water have experienced riding pump boats.
This may sound crazy but I am seriously thinking of buy my own pump boat for island hoping. Yes, I have reliable people to care the boat when I am not around and I plan to spend 4 months a year at minimum staying in the Philippines.
My question is for those who live or spend most of the year in the Philippines and enjoy snorkeling, sailing, swimming, scuba. Does anyone have any experience owning and maintaining their own pump boat?
I have done some research and see that good ones can cost 100, 000 to 300, 000 pesos (second hand).
A good website to checkout for those of you who like island hoping is = [url]www.island[/url] Banca cruises. Com They are out of Cebu / mactan.
I would fix the boat up for part time living when island hoping. Meaning bed / cooking (bbq) + electricity + mini ref for cold drinks / water. The boat comfortable for 6 to 8. It would be a 32 to 40 footer.
I thought it would be cool to own a boat to travel anywhere. I cannot afford a house and I not want buy a condo and be tied to one place. If the boat did not work out I could always sell it. Plus the boat could be used for business.
I like to hear from those who have done this / tried it or know of those who had.
I appreciate any feed back other than calling me crazy!
I have to share one more. The fantasy. I can see myself traveling down Cebu coast line to bantayan / malapascua and then island hop from island to island WITH 2 OR 3 CHICA BABES.
Anchoring off shore of a great beach and clear water. Sharing musica, dance, drinks. Party time just the 3 or 4 of use. Maybe nude swim. Sleeping under the stars with sweet chica babes. Minus the mosquitos of course.
This time stayed in Cebu 12 days.
Landed on 4 may. Had chatted with quite a few in DIA and had a long list of prospects. Tex-ted one from Manila to see if she will meet me at the airport. She agreed initially and on the day of travel wanted to bring her ladyboy
friend along. This is a no-no for me. Many others said they live too far from the airport but willing to come to my hotel.
Anyway checked into Cebu R hotel. Good rate of $40 / night. Hotel itself is old and located near the capital but clean and nice bed with limited breakfast. No frills here.
Tex-ted next girl on the list. She said something like she wants to bring her 16 year old sister along which is another no- no for me. Texted the next one. She showed up well dressed and very pretty (will show her pics in Photo
Thread) Fair color, nice boobs. 5' 3" tall. Very pleasant and sexually horny as hell. She said she only had one bf for 1 year and since he left a year ago did not have any sex. Her only form of satisfying herself is a vibrator
which she brought later. We had very good sex many times and she wanted to go to mcdonalds for dinner. I told her we can go to a nice restaurent but she is thrifty. I had planned to keep her for only two days because I still
had a long list to try. But ended up with her staying 6 nights (bird in hand!). She worked in real estate had her own hours and sometimes she will go after breakfast and come back in the afternoon or evening.
We also did the usual thing like massage (she had a BOGO coupon) , movies, good restaurent only one time (she loves to eat in food court ). Totally inexpensive date. In addition not interested in a serious relationship as she said
she is too young to settle down at 20 years of age. Had a wonderful time with her sometimes experimented with her vibrator. She never tried anal and wanted to try but gave up because it is too painful for her.
All around nice horny GFE. She wanted to come to the airport to see me off but I told her it is a waste. I had another 6 days to try other girls. Besides constant sex with her was making her pussy sore.
After she left (she did not want money but I put few thousand pesos in her purse anyway) called the next one. This one is 19 years old, quite tall with nice boobs. Very inexperienced in sex and told me only reason she is doing this is to support her studies. However I
taught her as much as I could about sex and we had a great time together. Kept her for two days. Would not allow any pictures.
On to next one, texted a beautifull in the picture girl. She said she cannot come because of elections or whatever the reason. Texted few more but had a problem getting them to come alone and stayed with me. One wanted
her mother to come and meet me, other one wanted her grandfather to meet me (grandfather?) By evening I was feeling lonely and texted my last year girl and she came right away and stayed with me for two days. She
wanted to stay till I left but I had to break her heart saying I wanted to see another girl. Sex and companionship is always good with this one. She wanted to go to Bohol with me.
After she left went back to my list of DIA hopefuls. Some never replied and some others had excuses. Decided to take one day rest and slept well alone for the first time. In the morning started texting numbers on the list again.
Found a girl who wanted 5000 pesos for one day (can you believe it?) Ultimately I settled for 1500 only if she is good looking and good sex. Once I saw her her asking price matched her looks. Pretty model like looks.
Could be a high class hooker. She told me she she never went below 3000 pesos her price. Anyway once she is comfortable good sex ensued and she was total GFE. Her story is she is from some place in Mindanao and on her
own studying in Cebu. Promised to take her to Boracay next time. She is worth it. Woulkd not allow any pics. I guess most of these girls in DIA are afraid of their pics end up on internet. My flight to AC was not till evening next day and she kept me company. We went for a nice lunch and had some leg massage together. Nice girl.
Next report in Angeles city section where I stayed two nights.
I like pregnant girls. Is there any place where pregnant girls can be available?
[quote=dewdrops;1426345]i like pregnant girls. is there any place where pregnant girls can be available?[/quote]i have had pregnant girls in date in asia / filiipina heart contact me. what you need to do is say what you are looking for in your profile and they will find you.
say you are flexible. welcome to chat / meet pregnant girls separated or single. there are not a lot but they are out their looking for someone to help them with their needs. to buy milk / [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131][CodeWord131][/url] / meds / delivery. a lot of girls get "knocked" up by the boyfriend who then dumps them. so yes, just go "fishing" but point out in your message that pregnant girls welcome.
[QUOTE=MangoBob68; 1426719]I have had pregnant girls in Date in Asia / filiipina heart contact me. What you need to do is say what you are looking for in your profile and they will find you.
Nice thing about them is they can't claim your the father!
PP
[QUOTE=Pinaypounder; 1428545]
[QUOTE=MangoBob68; 1426719]I have had pregnant girls in Date in Asia / filiipina heart contact me. What you need to do is say what you are looking for in your profile and they will find you.
Nice thing about them is they can't claim your the father!
PP[/QUOTE]They can't claim? No guarantee about that, and almost anything else, LOL
Hey guys,
So for the very first time ever, a girl caught me slipping. I picked up a random girl outside of the Disco. After hitting it off, she wanted to go to my hotel with me. The first negative sign should of been when we were signing her into the hotel. She didn't have her I'd and so I had to sign a waiver form as well as her filling out the standard form at Quest Hotel. After that, we got to my room and we started making out and stripping. But before we could go at it, she wanted us to take showers but it had to be separate because of what she claims "her religion". I should of known something was up because my spider senses went off! I actually got out of the shower in like a minute.
After our showers, we go at it for a good 30 minutes and she falls asleep half way through because she was drunk and it was like 5:00am I think? After we both woke up around 1, we go at it again! She didn't have the best looking face but I really liked her body and her sweet snatch. After getting it on again, I jumped in the shower for a minute and got out. Long story short, I sent her home and I tipped her 1000 pesos because I only that and a 100 peso bill. LOL.
So when I mentioned that I got caught slipping, it was because she went through my pockets at some point during her stay and managed to snag the one $100 bill I had in my wallet. I didn't realize this until after she left and I went down to the bank to try and buy Pesos. So basically, I forked over $100US plus 1000pesos for a LT that offered pretty gosh darn good service. I've paid more for shittier service in other countries but just the fact the prices are so low in the Philippines bothers me LOL.
Anyways, when messing with Freelancers, throw your stuff into the safe after you come back from where ever. I know to lock up everything before, but I always left my wallet and carrying around cash for the night in my pocket and I got burned. Also, make sure she has an I'd before you even jump in the cab with her. Who know's what kind of scheme she had cooking. Also, think with your big head more than the little one! LOL.
Anyways, the girls name is Trixie or at least that's what she goes by. She was rolling with 2 other girls last night and they speak pretty good Korean. I'm thinking they rob a lot of Koreans? Some photos of her too will be posted.
YG,
The freelancers from Mango change names ALOT. One week they are Trixie the next they are someone else.
Only some of her close freelancer friends might know her real name. Post a pic and see if she is well known.
An I. D. doesn't mean much in the Philippines.
[QUOTE=YG365; 1542077]So when I mentioned that I got caught slipping, it was because she went through my pockets at some point during her stay and managed to snag the one $100 bill I had in my wallet.
Anyways, when messing with Freelancers, throw your stuff into the safe after you come back from where ever. I know to lock up everything before, but I always left my wallet and carrying around cash for the night in my pocket and I got burned.
Anyways, the girls name is Trixie or at least that's what she goes by. She was rolling with 2 other girls last night and they speak pretty good Korean. I'm thinking they rob a lot of Koreans? Some photos of her too will be posted.[/QUOTE]Don't even take your wallet when you go out, lock it in the safe, the only time I ever carry my wallet here is when I'm driving either a car or motor bike; and even then most times I only take my driver's license. I've never been randomly asked for identification when walking around. If you're worried about being in an accident, or in case something nefarious happens, then write your name, blood type, an emergency contact number and hotel info down on a piece of paper and put it in your top pocket or shoe. Also, when you take a girl back to the room empty your pockets of all of your cash and put it (along with your ICE info) into the safe when she takes a shower; if you shower first, then take your pants into the bathroom with you.
Before the girl leaves you can also ask to check her purse, then watch how she reacts, it takes a real pro to feign innocence; although in your case you may not have found the single $100 bill her reaction may have been an indicator to search a little more thoroughly or perhaps even prompted you to check your wallet. One time in AC when I was staying at the ABC I asked a girl to look into her purse, she got a really tense look and started to get all fidgety; when I looked in her purse I found that she had taken some of the complimentary soap and a toothbrush that the hotel gives you. I simply smiled and told her she should first ask about taking them the next time (I guess some guys are too cheap too even let a girl have stuff like that, so she felt she needed to just take it).
Looking forward to seeing the pic of Trixie or whatever her name might be.
Operating a bit under false flag I have allways told I am uninterested in travelling Philippines except from Makati. Even so I have been looking at the J. Ave nightclub some of them girls are stunning.
For the J. Ave Superclub girls many of them are pictured in the nightclubs own FB page and I have did some detective work and found many of them in various datingsites. Any info of the Basement Megaclub in Mango sq as well? Beside J. Ave girls I will also meet normal datingsites girls I have worked for a couple of weeks as I hear that is by far the best bet down in Cebu and not unlike how I operate in Makati (but in Makati area I have start to learn also the more hi so nightlife around there but I can not expect that in Cebu beeing a firsttimer here). Girlie bars etc are not on my interest list, streetwalkers the same.
I guess J. Ave is a big club and most of the girls here consider themself beeing freelancing a hi so venue, am I right? I see some of them girls run into "in a relationship" and "out of relationship" every other day so they must be pretty busy, hehe.
I have not realy had time to browse through Cebu forum so I will not ask to many stupid question and find out later what maby did go wrong if anything. I chose Marriot hotel (looked ok as I found maby Shangri La Mactan a bit far offish) as my base of operations. And for datingsitegirls they have to come to my location as I never travel around to meet these contacts (they get rewarded for their effort anyway). I will look up more information of the Marriots surroundings later (if chances to pull from a shopping mall located close by will be possible as I find mall pick ups fun at times).
I don't want to mention any of the J. Ave girls by name (atleast name they operate under in various sources of online establishments. This not to offend anyone maby thinking they are in committed relationships to them.
But if any of you gents feel free to run in some advices it is highly appreciate (I am not tight in the cash department but if I can I will not try to spoil ladies and ruin the market, not that one bloke can do that, but you know it is debated big time over and over again). I am a fairly active contributor in Thai, Manila and Beijing threads.
J. Avenue or Julianas as I still call it, can have the most amazing crowd, music and vibe one night and be totally sucky the next. There is no rhyme or reason why, it just does. Recently the Koreans have really moved in (last 3yrs or so) and made it their home base so to speak as they flood into Cebu to study English. They will ruin it the way they ruined Sunflower, but see'est la vie di ba.
I took a look at some of the most recent pics on the J Avenue FB page. I recognized a few very infamous BG's mixed in there. Most were friends of the DJ's and owners. BTW the pics taken a few months ago around Sinulog are not the normal J. Avenue crowd so take note. There were not a lot of hi-so Filipinas that I could pick out from the pics, more hi-so guys. The hi-so crowd generally likes to party elsewhere around Cebu.
I think you will be disappointed in J. Ave vs Manila clubs. The quality just is not there.
[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1542557]J. Avenue or Julianas as I still call it, can have the most amazing crowd, music and vibe one night and be totally sucky the next. There is no rhyme or reason why, it just does. Recently the Koreans have really moved in (last 3yrs or so) and made it their home base so to speak as they flood into Cebu to study English. They will ruin it the way they ruined Sunflower, but see'est la vie di ba.
I took a look at some of the most recent pics on the J Avenue FB page. I recognized a few very infamous BG's mixed in there. Most were friends of the DJ's and owners. BTW the pics taken a few months ago around Sinulog are not the normal J. Avenue crowd so take note. There were not a lot of hi-so Filipinas that I could pick out from the pics, more hi-so guys. The hi-so crowd generally likes to party elsewhere around Cebu.
I think you will be disappointed in J. Ave vs Manila clubs. The quality just is not there.[/QUOTE]I read your recom with great interest Stroker. I am a clubbing guy and some koreans never did frighten me as I make it quite well through behaviour, spendings and dressing globaly clubwice speaking and hooking up with ladies (free or not free). When I spoke of hi so it was in the meaning of the girls themself believe they belong into the hi so segment.
I have quite a few on the radar and these girls seems to like a good party. I only go there as stated to do J. Ave club as in been there done that a few nights and then head back home (and some real datingsite girls aswell, often they come in combination). Some of them girls I have had long time communication with and even if, as stated, they go on and off regarding their in and out relationship status (I guess it is a phil thing) , some even put they are married, they still want to meet up with me.
As they want to meet i take it from there (I have no bad intentions but to bed a few of them and leave). One of them I even flew in to Makati (I mean ofcourse Naia but you catch my drift) and she was in relationship (so she stated but not my cup of tea so did not explore this matter further). She told me a bit of MO in this club but I like to hear it from others as well as I believe some pinays as much as the leader of North Korea.
Any other leads of a real hi so environment but as in other part of the world living on site makes it more easier beeing included.
Thanks anyway.
Yes, it's a shame that Sunflower closed down.
I've never heard of the Basement Megaclub. Is that new? In the same complex is another club: Club Holic (if my memory serves me correctly). I didn't like the vibe in the Holic place, but as SAce says, things can vary from night to night.
There is also Pump to consider visiting. I assume it's still open, although it's been about seven months since I've been to Cebu. It's smaller so sometimes too crowded. Lots of Koreans including ladies.
I'd also like to check out MO2 in Mandaue and Lotus Disco in Lapu2. Has anyone been to these places?
[url]https://www.facebook.com/clublotusmactan[/url]
[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1542557]J. Avenue or Julianas as I still call it, can have the most amazing crowd, music and vibe one night and be totally sucky the next. There is no rhyme or reason why, it just does. Recently the Koreans have really moved in (last 3yrs or so) and made it their home base so to speak as they flood into Cebu to study English. They will ruin it the way they ruined Sunflower, but see'est la vie di ba.
SNIP.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=X Man; 1542764]I'd also like to check out MO2 in Mandaue and Lotus Disco in Lapu2. Has anyone been to these places?
[url]https://www.facebook.com/clublotusmactan[/url][/QUOTE]MO2 is good and has live music, many prefer that place to J Ave and some of the girls I know also prefer. Not too far from the centre so is a good place for a change of scenery.
[QUOTE=X Man;1542764]There is also Pump to consider visiting. I assume it's still open, although it's been about seven months since I've been to Cebu. It's smaller so sometimes too crowded. Lots of Koreans including ladies.[/quote]It's still open, fair amount of young (early 20's) well heeled locals go there too. Went there last week with a SYT, but was too crowded & loud for my tastes; didn't even really go inside, just stuck my head in the door and left.
[quote]I'd also like to check out MO2 in Mandaue and Lotus Disco in Lapu2. Has anyone been to these places?[/QUOTE]Went to MO2 last October with David33 and couple of my girls. Sat outside, ate a decent dinner that was not too expensive and listened to a local band; mostly easy listening type music (David33 has the hots for the lead singer, LOL). Was good that you can listen to live music and still have a conversation. We left around 9pm if I recall, the disco (indoors) was just starting to heat up, I stuck my head in the door and it looked to be a mostly local crowd. After the band we went to see was finished a more progressive rock band came on. I wanted to go back, take a few pictures and post a review, but the weather turned crappy and I got busy with other endeavors, LOL. May go back again with one of my girls or when D33 hits town again; that is if I can get him to get his ass out of the Marriot, LOL.
Pip Jaeger, YG365, Wicked Roger, and the crazy Jew, thanks for a good time in Cebu. Planning the next trip as soon as I get back. And yes WR, there's a certain waitress I need to see. Plus I wouldn't mind doing the fish net experiment again. Made for some great pictures. And Pip, no more taunting me, please.
BTW: I was in Makati getting a foot massage and pedicure right around the corner from Burgos. I'm tired, hung over, fucked out, and fall asleep in the chair. I'm snoozing and I get a poke and wake up. The crazy Jew is standing over me with a big smile on his face. Fuckin Mossad for sure. Anyway he goes to Stardust with me, after some good old fun with a Arab farmer at Havana Cafe. We were trying to help the poor guy but he picked every ladyboy that walked by. Finally we gave up and left him to the wolves. The Jew had a girl at Stardust in 30 minutes. Texted me later that he had picked up another one on the way to the hotel and he needed help. Crazy man!
Ahhh the stories!
[QUOTE=FruitNinja; 1549593]Pip Jaeger, YG365, Wicked Roger, and the crazy Jew, thanks for a good time in Cebu. Planning the next trip as soon as I get back. And yes WR, there's a certain waitress I need to see. Plus I wouldn't mind doing the fish net experiment again. Made for some great pictures. And Pip, no more taunting me, please.
With a Arab farmer at Havana Cafe. We were trying to help the poor guy but he picked every ladyboy that walked by.[/QUOTE]Well waitress and fishnets are waiting FN.
The Arab and LB is not odd many like the LBs
I was at St Giles once and saw an Arab go to the lifts with 3 LB and mentioned to security that they were LBs and did the guest know. The reply was "yes sire and he was very happy". Another Arab even brought is really ugly LB to breakfast at a hotel I was staying at!
No accounting for taste LOL.
I've written about this gal before, but not posted a picture of her. This is an odd, but long-running relationship. When I'm in Cebu, she and I have breakfast often (usually at McDo on Jones street, a block or so from the circle, but lately at the McDo in the circle). Usually followed by a walk in the Fuente area, then we go back to my hotel and read the newspaper together (like old married farts, and she's never seemed to be bothered by the messy bed from last night's freshly fucked-and-photographed cebuana). Then we go somewhere in the city just to go somewhere (she decides usually; so far several churches, some shipping docks (no idea why she took me there), and a lighthouse north of the city). Maybe after that she goes home, or we go to Bo's (Ayala or Rama / Fuente) for some tea or coffee (then she goes home as she has kids to pick up from school). That's it. Its a lovely, simple, friendship. I don't even tell her in advance when I'm coming to phils. I just txt her with a new number around 6:45 am with: Hi its Xxxxx kumasta? Reply is usually: "I'm good. Breakfast 7:15 please". Sure enough, its easy to shower and get to McDo / Jones in 30 minutes (often I can walk it). Since I often hit her up out of the blue, and she often suggests breakfast within 20 or 30 minutes, I'd guess she lives within a few minutes walk of the McDo.
One day sitting in my hotel room at Diplomat, after several years of this, she said: "We don't have the sex". No, did you want that hun? "No. Yes. No. I don't". Hell, that was confusing. Why or why not? "You have many girl. No sex". But you actually want it? "Yes. No". OK then; that started and ended any further discussion of sex. On that same day, walking later in the mall, she put her arm in my arm for the first time. I thought: Great, she mentioned sex, and she's warming up to me. Nothin' doing' fella, as that's as far as we ever got.
You can see in the pic of us at Magellan's Cross her size. The blurred part comes to the top of my head. As I'm a few inches under 6', that makes her about 4' 10", and I'd put her scrawny weight at 80 lbs (at most). There are guys (on this very ISG board included) out there that think we asian-lovers are pervs. Literally they think we go there to get **** (based on the pics we post). We don't, and you and I cannot help it that pinay sometimes look like this woman (almost as a child). She's really nearing 40, with a handful of kids, wears nice clothes, and is not educated but is classy. But that doesn't stop the father McCobb types who think we're all pervs.
Sorry the pic is this redacted / blurred.
My friend who knows the scene in Cebu told me its mostly about the freelancers.
After I got settled in my hotel.
I got in a taxi and told the driver:
Girls? Ayala?
His English was pretty bad.
Finally he seemed to get it when I said:
'girls. You know, happy boom boom. '
He said: Mango street.
We drove awhile and found ourselves on a dark street. A 45? Year old woman was street walking.
Came over to the car.
Not interested.
Want younger.
Old pro says: 'no problem, I get younger, 1500 for each for me and her, she's 22, very pretty. '.
Finally got home for short time with the super slim, sometimes pretty, 25 year old, after offering jollibee, etc.
Wow!
I've been writing about my adventures and misadventures in Angeles city over the last few days.
And the best part is that the girls surprisingly often have shown they were really into the sex; going from dry to wet, etc, etc.
This girl turned out to be another hyper girl, moving quick.
I kind of thought she'd be quick and cool and professional and try to make me come fast so she would have an excuse to leave.
In bed, after hanging out with her eating our food and getting to know each other a little.
I asked her if she ever used lube.
Then we tried it a little.
Then she told me about how. She had a friend who actually masturbated! A lot! Because she was crazy!
And her friend showed it to her once!
And I made approving comments.
BTW, the girl was part Chinese; spoke some Korean; and said she had been told she looked like a Korean movie star.
Which I definitely saw once it got exciting. A beautiful, Korean movie star or model, super slim, tiny tits that for some reason turned me on once we got started.
Hyper girls: they need to move. Comes out in different ways. Often great at blowjobs. We didn't go there.
Oh, and they can lie easily.
I regularly do pussy massage, love the soft petals.
The lube makes the petals much more sensual.
Her clit started to get hard.
And I put her hand on my dick to balance it out.
This girl, lets call her "Amazing", apparently was lying about her friend being the masturbator.
Soon she was vigorously stroking her pussy in several different ways it seemed.
Moaning, moving her hips, touching me.
This was 100 percent real.
She had told me my dick was scary, too big. Just a normal American tall guy dick, average really.
But it was too big sometimes, hit her cervix a few times.
I put my cock in, not all the way.
Hmm: to sum up:
She came first. Like, out-of-control came first.
It was fucking amazing what happened.
She basically just took me for a ride like I've never been on before.
I usually tip some taxi money. 2-300,500 for all night if I like things.
I said fuck it, I gave her 1000, never ever did that before.
But as I told her: what she did was Amazing.
[QUOTE=SleepyDog;1671904]My friend who knows the scene in Cebu told me its mostly about the freelancers.
After I got settled in my hotel.
I got in a taxi and told the driver:
Girls? Ayala?
His English was pretty bad.
Finally he seemed to get it when I said:
'girls. You know, happy boom boom. '
He said: Mango street.
We drove awhile and found ourselves on a dark street. A 45? Year old woman was street walking.
Came over to the car.
Not interested.
Want younger..[/QUOTE]I'll be in Cebu next week and if you are still there, I have some girls with friends I can share with you if you are interested. I contacted a lot of them and I think my eyes were bigger than my stomach (or energy level), so PM me and I can share some of them with you if you like.
Thanks
Weather.
Great weather here in January. And unlike Manila and Angeles, you can feel the sea in the air, it's more pleasant to be here at night.
The Henry Hotel.
I love my hotel, The Henry. Artsy, quirky, fun. This is the first time I've ever liked a hotel room so much I'd rather not go out!
Except to bring a girl back and show it off! It's huge and colorful. One time I had a girlfriend who was house sitting for a place designed by the head of the architecture department as a dream house, with a spacious bedroom with a mountain view and a beautiful white bed; my girlfriend said the room itself was an aphrodisiac. That's how I feel about this place. I got upgraded to the sixth floor, maybe because I complimented the desk clerk on her cute glasses, LOL.
Its a girl friendly hotel.
Hyper girls and sticky fingers.
Oh, one other quality about the hyper girls, like my girl last night, Amazing. They are great thieves. I keep thinking I'm going to find the 700 that seems to be missing from my wallet. I know I had a five hundred, and some smaller bills, and was going to tip her, and it was so amazing I gave her 1000, but today, there seems to be only a single 100 bill in my wallet. And I can't remember leaving the hotel since then. Did I give her a thousand, and then leave my wallet there near her unattended?
Or was it the maid?
Or did I drop it?
Dubious, the maid was a university tourism student who seemed totally middle class and so cute I was watching her the whole time.
Hmmm. Dammit, I wanted to remember Amazing as amazing, but now I remember her as the girl who probably stole 700 after I tipped her 1000.
Reminds me of the barely legal hyper girl in Cuba who sought me out insistently, gave me a blowjob in a dark corner, and suddenly my wallet was missing. And it had no money in it. I had gotten the blowjob for 3 dollars, because I had told her truthfully I had almost no money, my money was fucked up because Cuba wasn't cashing my travelers checks. But it was my favorite wallet, and had my drivers license in it, and finally when I ransomed it for five dollars from my casa, after she claimed she had no idea where the wallet was, it suddenly appeared. I called her a magician. And smiled, because it was really a great blowjob from a barely legal hot girl, and it cost me 8 dollars for the blowjob and a great story.
Wet girls vs professionals.
OK, I'm definitely spoiled now. I picked up a girl from mango tonight, and she wasn't that much into the sex. Duh.
First girl out of six in the Philippines who didn't enjoy herself much. Not counting my new girlfriend in Angeles who I had a slow first night with when we were both tired, but warmed up later.
I'm spoiled.
Filipino guys.
When the doorman, and the karaoke guy nearby, got the idea that I wanted to find a girl, they laughed happily.
Reminds me of Jamaican guys, who think its just natural for guys including foreigners to want to get laid, and point them in the right direction like brothers.
Maybe these guys have their own second or third girlfriends.
Mango, prices.
I've only spent a few hours in Cebu outside of my hotel, two nights now. Seems like after midnight, you tell the driver to go to mango. To go fishing. For girls.
There's a complex filled with people after midnight called one mango, I think. The national bookstore is on the corner near there. The complex is filled with regular girls and sometimes their dates, plus some professional girls mixed in, sitting at the outdoor cafes, amid the discos, restaurants, gelato stand, etc. Ride down the dark streets past the national bookstore, and there are girls standing on the side of the road, 1500 for short time. You pay first, before you take the girl. When they first told me I was supposed to pay first, I thought they were saying it was something to pay off the police, but I guess they meant, its the local policy to pay first.
[QUOTE=SleepyDog;1672285]Weather.
There's a complex filled with people after midnight called one mango, I think. The national bookstore is on the corner near there. The complex is filled with regular girls and sometimes their dates, plus some professional girls mixed in, sitting at the outdoor cafes, amid the discos, restaurants, gelato stand, etc. Ride down the dark streets past the national bookstore, and there are girls standing on the side of the road, 1500 for short time. You pay first, before you take the girl. When they first told me I was supposed to pay first, I thought they were saying it was something to pay off the police, but I guess they meant, its the local policy to pay first.[/QUOTE]You only pay up front if a pimp of some sort is involved, freelancers without pimps have never asked me for money first. Even with pimps I always say I pay half up front and another half at the end.
Part 3 of my report, see Singapore and Angeles area for the other two.
Originally I did not plan to do any mongering in Cebu as I have quite a few expat and Filipina friends and coworkers here who would not approve of that sort of activities. Instead I planed to just do some casual dates with lunch or dinner. Unfortunately I don't deal well with temptations so it didn't go many days before I started breaking my rules _.
Hotels:
Actually stayed at three different Hotels in Cebu. Started out with two nights at Radisson Blu before going to Angeles. Did not do any mongering during this period. I'd say this hotel was the nicest of the three although the view and surrounding area is somewhat of a dump. It's right across the street from SM Mall which can be nice if you use that to meet or pick up, but not really much else in the area as far as I could tell. SM also has a fairly large reasonably priced food court, as well many more expensive chain restaurants. The breakfast at Radisson Blu is very good with a huge selection, unfortunately I only went there once as I overslept the second day and had to take an early plane the third day.
When returning from Angeles I first booked into Marco Polo. I chose the cheapest room available and to my dismay I ended up with two single beds. Not really a huge problem as I didn't plan to bring back any girls, although I ended up doing it after all. Still funny to see her reaction when I pointed at the free bed and told her "That's your bed, see you in the morning. " The view was very nice as the hotel is up in the hill overlooking the city, but the location otherwise is not very good and I spent a lot of time and money taking cabs wherever I needed to go. Seem to be girl friendly enough, the one time I brought a girl back I got no questions and she didn't have to sign in. They also have a fairly nice bar in the lobby that had live music in the evening. I ended up moving after three days as I didn't find it to be worth the price.
The last part of the journey I stayed at Quest. [URL]Hotels.com[/URL] had a 70% off if booked through the mobile app so I ended up paying only 2000 p per night without breakfast. Room was ok, fairly nice but a bit small. The location is great with Ayala Mall and Infinity KTV within walking distance. I also walked down to mango one night, but generally I would take a cab as I don't deal well with the outdoor heat and I'm not sure how safe it is to be walking around. The hotel is girl friendly, but they require girls to register and leave their I'd with the reception. When the girl is leaving they will call your room to check that everything is ok before letting her leave. Although it's not the nicest hotel around I'll probably be staying her next time due to the location, unless I try a new hotel instead.
Leaving out all the days I did not do any mongering as they were mostly spent visiting friends, hanging out at Ayala or going on lunch / dinner dates with regular girls.
Day 1 of Mongering:
Was staying at Marco Polo at the time and did not plan on doing any mongering when I suddenly got a message on DIA from a random girl wanting to meet. At first I thought she was meaning like a regular date, but after moving to SMS it quickly turned out she was a pro, although she claimed she only did ever few months, but that she needed money for the Christmas party in her province. I had my afternoon and early evening free, so I figured why the hell not. At first she wanted 3000 for ST, but when I told her I could get a bargirl LT for that she quickly went down. Agreed on 1000 p + 500 p tip for good performance. She later talked me into paying for taxi fare as well. I realize I probably overpaid and do apologize if I'm ruining it for you locals.
As usual with Filipinas she arrived about an hour late, and looked quite different from her picture, but she was still OK looking and passed the boner test. Up in the room I had her shower first while I double checked that all valuables had been locked up in the safe. Then I did a quick shower with the door open so I could her if she started going through my stuff. She was quite small, and stretchmarks showed she had given birth at least once, but nothing too bad. Fairly straight to business after a bit of small talk, and started off with a BBBJ, she then asked if I wanted to use a condom. I asked what she preferred, and she said she preferred with as she was afraid of getting pregnant. Didn't really have any plans to risk going bareback so I happily obliged. Went at it CFS in different positions for a while before blowing my load inside her with condom on. When done we snuggled for a bit and had some more small talk before she asked if she could leave. I generally prefer LT, but it was OK for a quickie.
Day 2 of Mongering:
First day after moving from Marco Polo to Quest I got a new text from the girl before asking if I wanted to meet again because she needed money for "requirements" for a job as Sales lady at Ayala. Figured it was most likely bullshit lies but decided to play along as I didn't really care what she needed the money for. Agreed to same prices as first time. This time she was about 45 minutes late. When she arrived at the hotel I went straight for the room as I had done at all other hotels previously on the trip, but was stopped by hotel security who said she had to sign in at the reception. She got a form to fill out with name, address, phone number, etc, and they asked for her ID to keep until signing out.
Same procedure as before with shower, BBBJ, and CFS in different positions, although this time she seemed more active and into it. When done she well asleep in my arm with her head against my chest, but woke up a few hours later around 11.30 pm and freaked out because she had to get home "before the gate closed". Not really sure what the deal was, maybe she wanted to catch mango sq, or maybe the boyfriend / sponsor was waiting, or maybe she really had to get home. Either way, off she went.
Day 3 of Mongering:
Received another text from the same girl wanting to meet again, but I declined as I had a regular date with a sales lady from Ayala. Unfortunately when I got to the terraces where we were supposed to meet she was not there, and after 20 minutes and a few texts asking where she was and if she was coming, she replied that there were something wrong with the computer and she had to wait for a manager to arrive to reboot it and wouldn't make it. So there I was with no plans for the night and quite a bit pissed off. Decided to check out the bars at Mango Street instead, so went back to hotel and grabbed a Taxi. Taxi driver suggested I go to Arena instead, but I had already made my mind for the night and told him to take me to Vikings.
Had a beer at Vikings while chatting with some of the girls. At this time it was fairly late so I don't know if the best girls had already left, but I didn't really see anyone I liked except for one of the dancers. She was dressed differently from the other girls and looked rather young so I wasn't sure if I could barfine her, so I decided to check out the others bars instead of asking. Continued down the street to Planet X, then Sisters, and then what they claimed was a new bar next to Sisters. All the bars has some OK looking girl, but compared to Angeles the selection was pretty poor. As it was close to closing and I didn't want to start over again I found an OK looking girl, bought her a LD while interviewing and then took her home. 3000 p barfine.
In the bar she had been very sweet and gentle, but once back at the hotel she started showing a bit of an attitude. At the elevator she started laughing when she saw that my room was on one of the lower floors and asked if I was poor, and once we entered the room she complained about how small it was and proudly announced that earlier this week she had stayed at Marriott and the rooms there were much bigger. Not exactly the best way to set the mood, and for a brief moment I suggested kicking her out, but I wouldn't get back the bars in time for another pickup so decided to just go with it.
Same routine as usual, shower, BBBJ, OK CFS, but not really that into it compared to the Angeles girls. When done she complained about being hungry, but I was getting a bit tired of her complaining and told her she could have breakfast in the morning instead and went to sleep with one arm around her in a spooning position. The next morning she once again started complaining, this time about being sick from the air-con. I chose to ignore it and headed down for breakfast. While eating she asked if she could have some money for taxi back to the bar, so I slipped her a 500 p even though she didn't really deserve it. After breakfast I gave her a hug, and off she went.
Day 4 of Mongering:
Figured I should check out Mango Sq and J!Ave at least once before leaving town to check out the freelancer action. In terms of meeting people I know this was a bit risky, but figured it wasn't a place they were likely to visit, especially since it was a weekday. When I arrived the bartender hushed me over to the outside bar. At first I thought it was because I didn't match dress code (was wearing shorts), so I ordered a beer and sat outside and watched people entering. Quickly saw people wearing all kinds of things so it seemed the dress code wasn't that strictly enforced. I entered the bar and ordered a drink, and then another one, and then a few more as I didn't really see any talent that was without guys and receptive to my smiles. Ended up getting way to drunk and decided to just get home as there wasn't any point in trying to pick up anything at this stage. A bit bummed out, but got a cab and returned to the hotel.
Day 5 of Mongering:
Had the evening free and decided to check out out Infinity and Arena. Started out by walking over to Infinity as it was nearby. When I entered the mamasan quickly informed me of the rules: 1 LD for the girl + 1 LD for the mamasan (Don't remember the prices, but they were expensive) to sit one hour with a girl. No drinks and you weren't even allowed to talk to the girls. There were also signs all over saying "Strictly no barfine" not sure if it was for show or not, as I didn't bother asking. Overall the quality of the girls were much higher than the Mango bars and quite a few that I wouldn't mind taking home. Either way, figured it wasn't worth the price, finished my beer and grabbed a taxi over to Arena.
Arrived at Arena and as I entered it was fairly empty with just a few guys at one table. As I knew the place was expensive I had no plans to buy LDs so I sat down at the bar to avoid having girls over, and just watched the show while having a beer. Again most of the girls were high quality, and again signs all over saying "Strictly no barfine". Sat and watch the show for a while, including some tumults as this midget guy selling cigarettes tried to give a neck massage to an older Korean gentleman that wasn't very well received. Finished my beer and when asking for the bill I was slammed with an entry fee as well. Not really a surprise as I head read about it online, but it still annoys me when the bars throw the entry fee at you when leaving without saying a word up front when entering (There may have a been a sign though, I don't remember).
As it was still early I decided to try out Mango Sq again since it was Friday. Quite a lot of people outside, so I got a table outside and ordered a beer. Probably sat there for an hour or so drinking beer and texting with some friends hoping that someone would come over as I felt a bit awkward and creepy walking over to these young girls based only on my interpretation of their smile, but no one came over. I guess you have to approach them if you want any action. Was hungry so went over to the Kebab thing and bought what turned out to be the tiniest kebab compared to back home, but tasted quite good. Then went over to get some ice cream. Quite a few attractive, girls sitting around the ice cream stand giving inviting smiles, but I was just to beta to hit on anyone as I felt like a creep hitting on these young girls (even though I'm only in my early 30's. I guess northern Europe has ruined me). Still felt hungry so I decided to look for some more food, on the way once of the girls, although only slightly above average looking, asked if she could come home with me. Figured I still had plenty of time as the place was packed and I had found another girl I liked, so I told her maybe later and continued my search for food. When I arrived back at Mango Sq, just 20 minutes later (around 3. 15 am-3. 20 am), the place looked almost deserted, just a few average looking girls making no attempt at eye contact. I was devastated, did I really screw up again? Seems I did. Home alone again.
Day 6 of Mongering:
An expat friend invited me over to one of the bars a bit outside Mango Street, kind of in a sort of back alley looking street, I think it was Lone Star. Once there he challenged me to get a girl without buying any ladies drinks at all. The girls were very friendly even without buying any drinks, even if the bartender / mamasan looked a bit frustrated. The girl that seemed to be in charge looked rather young for a mamasan, but oldest girl I could see. Almost considered asking if I could barfine her if I hadn't had this cute, petite girl beside me. After a while the girls complained about being hungry and asked if we could buy pizza. My friend had previously told me the food there was pretty decent for a bar, so I figured why not. The pizza was around 350 p and a great way to get a table full of happy girls with the price of just slightly above one LD. After a quick interview, where we agreed she would stay until at least 9 am next morning I asked the girl next to me if she wanted to go with me, and got the usual "Up to you" answer. As I really hate that answer, I countered with "No, it's up to you, I won't take you unless you want too. " She nodded and told me she would go change. While she was changing we settled the drinks / food tab, and when she returned she asked for the 3000 p barfine (Both times paid directly to the girl, inside the bar).
Grabbed a taxi back to the hotel and signed her in. Spent some time talking and joking around before getting undressed, she turned out to be very cute and innocent. Claimed she was from Zamboanga where her parents had a farm, and that she had a daughter living there. She had come to Cebu to study, but later had to drop out, and that she was living with her sister in Cebu while pretending to work at a Korean Restaurants. As always I take their stories with a grain of salt, but it's still interesting to hear their stories, true or not.
After showing she asked if I had any condoms, and then quickly continued saying she got her own, before I could even pick one up. As I was already in a joking mood from early I decided to push it a bit to see her reaction, and told her I never used a condom. Kept pushing the no condom story a bit as I could see her getting more and more upset, at which point I felt so sorry for her and told her that I was indeed joking with her to see her reaction. A huge smile of relief across her face as she asked "Why you so funny?
Went on with a bit of kissing and softly playing with her nipples with my tongue, before continuing down, kissing stomach. When I got o far down, she quickly crossed her legs and said "Please don't, that's far enough" figured she wasn't open for DATY. Then she continued with a CBJ, which surprised me quite a bit since she was the only bargirl I had met that didn't do BBBJ, but I didn't want to ruin the mood by arguing. Far from the best BJ I have had, both because it was rather mechanical, up and down, and because it was covered. She then continued with cowgirl, but after just a few minutes she asked me to come. At that point I just started laughing and asking if she was in a hurry, and she replied "no, I just want you to come. " I told her we still had plenty of time and continued with cowgirl, for a couple of more minutes before she asked again, I told her to move over to missionary, pretty much the only position where I'm able to cum with a condom on, and even then it takes a bit of an effort. Kept going at it for a while, but it was clear she wasn't into the sex at all, even though she tried to a good sport, it was easy to tell she just wanted it to be over, so I did my thing.
After we had cleaned up, she was back to her own happy self, snuggled up and asked if she could watch TV. For some reason she ended up at one of Discovery channels watching a program about tropical fish of all thing, which seemed to be strangely amusing to her. She kept commenting on the fishes, telling me to look at this and that, and asking me questions like I was some sort of fish expert. I must admit I didn't care much for the program, but it was really cute seeing her like that, and I'm a sucker for cute and innocent. When the fish program ended we talked some more about her life, and then she asked if she could leave at 4 am because she had get back to her sister. This annoyed be a bit, and I told her we had agreed she would stay until 9 am at least, and she told me "OK, no problem, I won't run" and we went to sleep spooning, with my upper arm around her. I recall thinking her hair smelled really good before falling asleep.
Slightly after 8 am she woke me up, and asking if it was OK that she left. I asked if she wanted breakfast, but she just wanted to go home so her sister wouldn't be suspicious. Gave her 500 p tip for being cute, as well as an unopened box of chocolate that she had seen and asked if she could have.
As I was busy with non-mongering business the rest of the stay this turned out to be my last day of mongering. I'm still a bit sad I didn't get to try out the freelancer action at Mango Sq / J!Ave, but I guess there is always a next time.
All in all, a pretty decent first mongering trip, although I did some mistakes, have some regrets, and there are things I would do different. As always advice and suggestions from seasoned mongers are appreciated as I doubt it will be my last trip.
Total count for the trip, 4 girls (1 x Thai, 2 x Vietnamese, 1 x PRC) in Singapore, 3 girls in Angeles and 3 girls in Cebu over 4 weeks.
Great report. My only criticism is that you shouldn't explain the extraction process. Guess why?
[QUOTE=Feroxis;1675540]Part 3 of my report, see Singapore and Angeles area for the other two. SNIP
Originally I did not plan to do any mongering in Cebu as I have quite a few expat and Filipina friends and coworkers here who would not approve of that sort of activities. Instead I planed to just do some casual dates with lunch or dinner. Unfortunately I don't deal well with temptations so it didn't go many days before I started breaking my rules _.[/QUOTE]
I have been in Cebu for a few days and my pace is slow as I have met an actual keeper, thanks to FC. But that is not my story kids.
Prior to meeting my KEEPER I met the Devil. I dare not share to many details here as it seems most of you know her and almost all of you have sent her money. I would hate for her men to find out about her although if her men are readers then that's simply Karma.
I spent several hours with the woman and 2 nights and I listened to her talk and talk and talk. OMG. Right now she has a Fiancee who is a "multi millionaire" yet gave her a micro diamond ring, she has a BF who sends her cash that she has not met and she fucks me because 'its been awhile", I was respectfully quiet when her benefactors kept calling.
She does not have a pot to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] in despite having received MILLIONS of PESOS, yes MILLIONS you see she likes to shop! She has alot of shit but nothing of real value.
She won't see me again (I have invited her out) because despite the fact I only listen to her and fuck her well as she will fall for me and does not want to just be a fling? She might be a total pyscho!
She is the best internet fisherwoman I have ever heard of, at one point she had a man sending her 30 k a WEEK! And then she fucked around on him while he was in town no less.
She has been married a few times got deported from one country cause she was double married and is a bullshit artist extraordinaire.
I don't think she is a pure scammer, but she sure aint honest she is just a dumb classless jungle cat and boy does she use you dumb mother fuckers. She is the worst listener I have ever met, her body is far from even really good yet she is covered in men.
I did her cause we had breakfast and I knew I could fuck her so I did and she can suck a decent cock and she is certainly interesting to listen to. Its nice to fuck sober women that you spend an hour with that you can tell need it.
I did not pay her but she borrowed 500 pesos.
MEN ARE STUPID it is amazing what some men will do for a little attention! MY suggestion to some of you, get a dog, they are loyal and will love you inexpensively.
So far I have had 3 women only; one refused money and was angry when I stuffed some in her purse, 1 was the Devil and 1 is a keeper who takes nothing!
Think men think!
PP.
Any reason why you don't want to put up her photo or give more information?
[QUOTE=David_33;1699100]Any reason why you don't want to put up her photo or give more information?[/QUOTE]My reasons are Karma. She did not hurt me, she does not blackmail men, she simply facilitates or channels their stupidity into her Bank Account! I should post photos of the idiots that send her money they are the stupid ones.
PP.
[QUOTE=Pinaypounder;1699142]My reasons are Karma. She did not hurt me, she does not blackmail men, she simply facilitates or channels their stupidity into her Bank Account! I should post photos of the idiots that send her money they are the stupid ones.
PP.[/QUOTE]Know many girls from Cebu. All of them are angels. But hey, every guy who sent money to a girl like that deserve it to get pranked.
[QUOTE=Pinaypounder;1699038]I have been in Cebu for a few days and my pace is slow as I have met an actual keeper, thanks to FC. But that is not my story kids.
Prior to meeting my KEEPER I met the Devil. I dare not share to many details here as it seems most of you know her and almost all of you have sent her money. I would hate for her men to find out about her although if her men are readers then that's simply Karma.[/QUOTE]Have heard worse horror stories about how people take advantage of people. That is why ISG is a good resource for information on making informed choices and not think with the little head!
Hello mongers, ready for some schooling.
Hi,
I am from Bangalore India and my work takes me around the world.
This will be my second trip to Cebu, last time was in August 2014. I stayed at Marco Polo, but the hotel was too far away from all the action so I later switched to the Waterfront.
I did not have a lot of time for mongering and having read whatever I had, I decided to try Mango street. Hung around in a bar and had a few drinks but just could not make out which are the ones in business and which are the ones that are not. Usually you see girls smiling or giving an indication that they are interested / available, but I just could not make out. I had been busy the entire trip and this was my last night in town. So I took a cab and asked him to take me back to the hotel. A little later I just thought of asking the cabbie about options. He took me to some shanty part of the town and asked me to keep the door locked. Some guy approached him and they spoke, the cabbie helped translate and then a girl came out of one of the houses and was standing under the street light. I said fine, I mean at this stage I just had too many things going in my mind. So I paid up and we left. 10 minutes into the ride while chit chatting with the girl I tell her I am put up at the Waterfront hotel and she said she can't come. She just refused and said she is not dressed for the place and is not carrying her ID. She started arguing with the driver, that he should have told this earlier.
Anyway I insisted the driver that we turn around and drop her back. By now I had already made up my mind to forget about the money I had paid, the whole affair was getting murky. But when we went back to drop her, and she told the problem the guys said there is another girl, and she was sitting under the same lamp post about 10 feet away. This was when I thought my luck is back. She was better looking, well dressed and younger than the previous girls. The guys did not ask for any more money and we headed back to the hotel.
All in all she was good, the usual BBBJ, and a few positions. I ordered food an drinks and we spent quite some time chatting too. She stayed for about 4 hrs and then I dropped her at the taxi pickup.
So after the experience I had last time I am wondering if there is a better way to get a good girl in Cebu. I will again be running short of time and would want to have the plan well set before the actual encounter. So at the time I just ask the girl to meet me at a mall or whatever and I can get her back to my hotel.
The damage last time was 2000 P + taxi (I'm not absolutely sure but I think it was around that), and looking in approx the same range. I've already looked through few FR, but since I am not familiar with Cebu and it's ways, just can't make too much sense out of the cryptic talk.
So requesting locals or tourists with experience to share specific contacts and details, or specific guidelines so I don't have to spend days and hours hunting. Please PM me.
Cheers!
GT
[QUOTE=GlobalTurkey;1721648]Hi,
I am from Bangalore India and my work takes me around the world.
This will be my second trip to Cebu, last time was in August 2014. I stayed at Marco Polo, but the hotel was too far away from all the action so I later switched to the Waterfront.
Cheers!
GT[/QUOTE]1. Join dateinasia and chat with girls. Plenty of girls would love to come to your room and fuck your brains out if they like you.
I usually keep then number of days and give 1000 pesos per day plus some gifts plus expenses.
2. Plenty of girls hang around the lobby at waterfront. Some are really good looking and well dressed. Talk and negotiate. I have stayed many times at waterfront. Nobody checks I. The. As long as you escort them in nobody bothers you.
3. Take a walk outside and find McDonald's. I have picked some there. They work nearby. After work they hang around there.
4. Take a taxi to Ayala mall. You can meet some girls.
5. Mango street is full of bars. I never went there.
6. Taxi guy probably took you to Colon. Many girls there. Some are [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902][CodeWord902][/url]. They usually charge 1000 pesos for foreigners.
Maybe only 300 to 500 for locals. Some gems from provinces can be found there. Do not go alone there at night.
Good Luck!
[QUOTE=Sammon;1721658]1. Join dateinasia and chat with girls. Plenty of girls would love to come to your room and fuck your brains out if they like you.
Good Luck![/QUOTE]Thanks Sammon!
This should get me started.
Cheers!
GT
Well I fell in love with a non hooker last trip, was totally taken by this woman so much so I was planning marriage in July.
I am an extremely experienced player and I got Karma and I accept that. This woman is known here as Jazz.
In addition to playing me she lives full time with a white man here a fact I kind of figured out but that she lied about yeah yeah walks like a duck talks like a duck!!!!.
In addition 9 days after we fell deeply in love she fucked an American and continued to facade about marrying me.
I never sent a centavo but I spent plenty on gifts then and for this trip.
Luckily a man told me about her being a lying working girl and then she actually confessed to all.
She showed absolutely no remorse or emotion!
Stunning oh well enjoy the photos and be warned.
PP
[QUOTE=Pinaypounder;1732241]Well I fell in love with a non hooker last trip, was totally taken by this woman so much so I was planning marriage in July.
I am an extremely experienced player and I got Karma and I accept that. This woman is known here as Jazz.
In addition to playing me she lives full time with a white man here a fact I kind of figured out but that she lied about yeah yeah walks like a duck talks like a duck!!!!.
In addition 9 days after we fell deeply in love she fucked an American and continued to facade about marrying me.
I never sent a centavo but I spent plenty on gifts then and for this trip.
Luckily a man told me about her being a lying working girl and then she actually confessed to all.
She showed absolutely no remorse or emotion!
Stunning oh well enjoy the photos and be warned.
PP[/QUOTE]As we get older and have had so many experiences different women different hotels homes familes cities I think some times we get tired of it and want to settle down with just one woman. I have been to the Pi many times met and bedded many women pros and non pros. Hey, you just let your guard down and I understand. It has happened to me too. I met one woman who was one of the "best " I ever met. But thank god I returned to me senses and caught the woman in many lies Wowow. Hey it happens I know the feeling You really expected remorse and some emotion? I am not surprised in the least. I had one who professed to love me more than her life bla bla bla and when I told her I felt that we are not compatible she asked if I had a friend who might be interested in her. ! The pros the bad ones have no remorse at all will lie right to your face. It is about survival. Maybe it is the environment or survive today any way you can. Lie say and do whatever you can do to survive. I have met this mentality quite often in the Philippines. As I mentioned do to you before be happy be very happy you just lost money you could have lost a lot more if you would have stayed with this woman. Live and learn never too late.
[QUOTE=Pinaypounder;1732241]Well I fell in love with a non hooker last trip, was totally taken by this woman so much so I was planning marriage in July.
I am an extremely experienced player and I got Karma and I accept that. This woman is known here as Jazz.
In addition to playing me she lives full time with a white man here a fact I kind of figured out but that she lied about yeah yeah walks like a duck talks like a duck!!!!.
In addition 9 days after we fell deeply in love she fucked an American and continued to facade about marrying me.
I never sent a centavo but I spent plenty on gifts then and for this trip.
Luckily a man told me about her being a lying working girl and then she actually confessed to all.
She showed absolutely no remorse or emotion!
Stunning oh well enjoy the photos and be warned.
PP[/QUOTE]I thought you said Filipinos were so stupid that they couldn't organize a whatever? Looks like you got outplayed. She probably only has a 5th grade education. If you want to call it Karma then call it Karma.
Thanks for the warning.
If no one has noticed but getting a taxi after arriving at Mactan is getting better ie more organised.
Now I know being organised and not offering the arriving tourist an organised chaos experience of finding a taxi is an odd thing but I was pleasantly surprised as was the cutie with me.
Now there are white taxis (with meters) to the right of the exit. Yellow to the left of the exit.
The white taxis are controlled by marshals and there are plenty. So organised is it that I reminded of HL and BKK! Really that good and I am not the best when waiting for taxis. Very impressed.
And there is a lack (or certainly less) privateers who double charge the unsuspecting tourist.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;1732832]If no one has noticed but getting a taxi after arriving at Mactan is getting better ie more organised.
Now I know being organised and not offering the arriving tourist an organised chaos experience of finding a taxi is an odd thing but I was pleasantly surprised as was the cutie with me.
Now there are white taxis (with meters) to the right of the exit. Yellow to the left of the exit.
The white taxis are controlled by marshals and there are plenty.[/QUOTE]No more going up the stairs to the departure area? White taxis have meters. What about the yellow taxis? No meter? Thanks for the input, plan on Cebu visit soon.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;1732832]If no one has noticed but getting a taxi after arriving at Mactan is getting better ie more organised.
Now I know being organised and not offering the arriving tourist an organised chaos experience of finding a taxi is an odd thing but I was pleasantly surprised as was the cutie with me.
Now there are white taxis (with meters) to the right of the exit. Yellow to the left of the exit.
The white taxis are controlled by marshals and there are plenty. So organised is it that I reminded of HL and BKK! Really that good and I am not the best when waiting for taxis. Very impressed.
And there is a lack (or certainly less) privateers who double charge the unsuspecting tourist.[/QUOTE]That's right no need to go up to departures anymore. Just go out to the right and you will see the line for white metered taxis. Line may look long but only about ten minutes wait. The taxis dropping off at departures can now just make a right turn down to this taxi line area. Pretty efficient. BTW, I think you can cross over the driveway for seniors and disability line. I am a senior but decided to wait in the youngster line.
[QUOTE=MrHawaii;1732987]No more going up the stairs to the departure area? White taxis have meters. What about the yellow taxis? No meter? Thanks for the input, plan on Cebu visit soon.[/QUOTE]To add to DG's FR.
Yellows have meter also but are more expensive. Some tax drivers (but very few in my experience) may try no meter especially if you go outside Cebu centre (ie to Naga, Talisay, Danao etc) or even Marco Polo hotel!! But just take the next one and say you will report them as this does the trick.
I always tip nicely especially f the driver takes short cuts (I know them myself) and what is 100 pesos to people who likely spent a lot more getting there and staying in hotels at 2000/3000+ pesos a night.
See your PMs Mr H.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;1732544]I thought you said Filipinos were so stupid that they couldn't organize a whatever? Looks like you got outplayed. She probably only has a 5th grade education. If you want to call it Karma then call it Karma.
Thanks for the warning.[/QUOTE]Actually according to a taxi driver, Mactan outsourced the taxi management to an Indian outfit and they made the changes. They also collect 10 p per drop. That is what I have been told.
[URL]http://cebudailynews.inquirer.net/58696/retiree-nabbed-in-bogo[/URL]
For five years, 69-year-old Harold Glover has been renting a house in Bogo city, north Cebu.
The American retiree was arrested on Wednesday evening by police who surprised him in his bedroom with his pants down in front of two [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902][CodeWord902][/url] girls.
Glover, a pensioner from Georgia, USA, had been under surveillance for months following reports that he would invite young girls to his rented unit in Solid Homes Subdivision in barangay Taytayan house and pay them to have sex.
[QUOTE=Member#4221;1739889][URL]http://cebudailynews.inquirer.net/58696/retiree-nabbed-in-bogo[/URL]
For five years, 69-year-old Harold Glover has been renting a house in Bogo city, north Cebu.
Glover, a pensioner from Georgia, USA, had been under surveillance for months following reports that he would invite young girls to his rented unit in Solid Homes Subdivision in barangay Taytayan house and pay them to have sex.[/QUOTE]Again old news and again banged to rights given what the media outlets claim to have been happening at he time of his arrest. Lots of photos on the press and lots of news then but now is just 'fish and chip' paper (old new for those who don't understand the phrase).
The arrest of locals for the same offence or similar tends to be reported but with not as much fanfare or press exposure. In fact am sure there are far more instances of it locally that never get this press coverage. But foreign with possible cash means lots of press coverage.
What about posting some FRs of you time in he Philippines, in Cebu rather than links to old news stories in the press as I see from your posting history you seem not keen on FRs or posting photos of your exploits. Just a thought.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;1732544]I thought you said Filipinos were so stupid that they couldn't organize a whatever? Looks like you got outplayed. She probably only has a 5th grade education. If you want to call it Karma then call it Karma.
Thanks for the warning.[/QUOTE]Lets review shall we. She is University educated, lived with a rich white guy for 12 years in luxury, I got well fucked, never sent a dime, she lost a ticket to Canada, I told her Husband, she is now on the street and I told everyone else. Hmm not sure I got outplayed, I wasn't playing.
But by far she lost allot. Yes perhaps Karma but not for the reasons you think. You must actually be dumber than the typical filipino.
Sorry for you man that must be tough to be so dumb, who ties your shoelaces for you?
PP.
[QUOTE=Pinaypounder;1740912]Lets review shall we. She is University educated, lived with a rich white guy for 12 years in luxury, I got well fucked, never sent a dime, she lost a ticket to Canada, I told her Husband, she is now on the street and I told everyone else. Hmm not sure I got outplayed, I wasn't playing.
But by far she lost allot. Yes perhaps Karma but not for the reasons you think. You must actually be dumber than the typical filipino.
Sorry for you man that must be tough to be so dumb, who ties your shoelaces for you?
PP.[/QUOTE]You didn't lose a dime, she just ripped your heart. You got revenge. Thanks for the review. Take your dinner sir.
[QUOTE=Pinaypounder;1740912]Lets review shall we. She is University educated, lived with a rich white guy for 12 years in luxury, I got well fucked, never sent a dime, she lost a ticket to Canada, I told her Husband, she is now on the street and I told everyone else. Hmm not sure I got outplayed, I wasn't playing.
But by far she lost allot. Yes perhaps Karma but not for the reasons you think. You must actually be dumber than the typical filipino.
Sorry for you man that must be tough to be so dumb, who ties your shoelaces for you?
PP.[/QUOTE]In your original post, you stated that she was a WG, and had lived with a guy but never disclosed that she was currently married. OK, you [I]"never sent a dime"[/I], but you previously wrote [B][I]"I spent plenty on gifts then and for this trip"[/I][/B], so you parted with 'plenty' of your hard earned money.
Same girl? Just wondering!
And you told her husband??!!??!! [b]Wow![/b] Nice one!!?? You certainly weren't [I]"playing"[/I]. I wonder how many members here would be prepared to do that to a girl, even though she had outplayed them (to that point in time)?
Ikksman
[QUOTE=Member#4221;1739889]SNIP[/QUOTE]Please stop posting cut and paste articles as some kind of breaking news.
I agree with WR, the news is old, and perhaps instead post a couple of boots-on-the ground field reports if you want to contribute.
[QUOTE=Pinaypounder;1740912]Lets review shall we. She is University educated, lived with a rich white guy for 12 years in luxury, I got well fucked, never sent a dime, she lost a ticket to Canada, I told her Husband, she is now on the street and I told everyone else. Hmm not sure I got outplayed, I wasn't playing.
But by far she lost allot. Yes perhaps Karma but not for the reasons you think. You must actually be dumber than the typical filipino.
Sorry for you man that must be tough to be so dumb, who ties your shoelaces for you?
PP.[/QUOTE]Little PP is that you LOL?
Seriously mate I feel for you since you potentially planned to marry her, but as most of the mongers who meet and spend fun time with filipinas know, the monger law of averages will catch up with you at some point in your life.
For every idiot monger out there who promises marriage and uses other unsavory tactics to get Filipinas into bed, they create a Filipina that takes on a more mercenary approach to the three f's of sleeping with foreigners. While many mongers uses the standard three F rules (find, fornicate, forget), they prefer the other three F rules (find, facilitate, fleece).
In no way am I calling you an idiot, far from it. I just use the term as an example of what can happen when a monger plays this game with bad intentions. They leave many Filipinas in the dust with broken hearts and as a result many of them turn mercenary and see foreigners as just another way to cash in, instead of being taken advantage of.
Chances are high your Filipina friend didn't wake up one day and decide to turn mercenary, she was lied to and crushed by a monger in her past so now she plays the game by her rules.
Live and learn, but your story has a happy ending after all. I think you should thank your lucky stars you figured out she was really like while you were still seeing her, instead of finding out after you married her and moved her back to the West. There she would have helped herself to half your crap, and after cleaning you out more than likely taken off.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;1732832]If no one has noticed but getting a taxi after arriving at Mactan is getting better ie more organised.
[/QUOTE]Sounds good. Are those overprice vans still available there? Just as a point of clarification so that our fellow mongers don't get taken into one of those white fixed price vans instead of a white taxi.
[QUOTE=BrainDrain;1741492]Sounds good. Are those overprice vans still available there? Just as a point of clarification so that our fellow mongers don't get taken into one of those white fixed price vans instead of a white taxi.[/QUOTE]There are a still few of the 'privateers' but just head for the white taxi stand ignore the rest as this is efficient IMHO (well so much better than NAIA T3 where all scams abound LOL.
Am told the developer of the new airport did this, charges the taxi driver a small fee but the drivers know they will get a passenger and no one will try take away their legitimate business.
[QUOTE=StrokerAce88;1741425]Please stop posting cut and paste articles as some kind of breaking news.
I agree with WR, the news is old, and perhaps instead post a couple of boots-on-the ground field reports if you want to contribute.[/QUOTE]Well said Stroker.
But methinks he has never been here, maybe he is a zealous Christian in disguise trying to put people off Cebu Maybe a Mormon from the temple in the hills? Or someone who works for the Thailand Tourism Board? Or as a one handed typist he can't type much so cuts and pastes a new link LOL.
Am sure in 2 weeks time he will post the story of the US retiree in bed with a 17 year old fully clothed with mom and dad same room etc. Or the Bohol Belgian. I wait a real FR from him but I doubt we will ever see anything of substance.
On my second trip to Cebu back in 2011 I dated a girl that I had met through DIA.
First meeting we went to a IT Park resto, had some drinks and she came back to the hotel. A beautiful BBBJ to completion ensued, no sex and she was gone.
We kept in touch, next visit, meet, club, hotel but no sex.
Next visit, resto and Ayala, chat etc, bed but no sex.
You get the picture.
On my last visit, my farewell Cebu visit to say goodbye to her as my business has changed in Phils she meets me on the first night. BBBJ to completion, no sex and she goes to work.
Second night she arrives back at the hotel with a bottle of wine, we drink and eat, she spends the night dancing in front of the mirror for my benefit. She has obviously made up her mind that it was time. She also knew it was the last time I would see her.
So, it took me four years to finally get to love this beautiful young lady. Patience is finally rewarded.
How patient are other mongers?
Going up the escalators at Ayala and I get a look from a young girl standing with her "mom" near the bottom. Way too young for me. Anyway, enough eye contact had been made so I stopped walking and leaned on the upstairs railing to look around the center. The 'mom' was either the mamasan or a random.
Sure enough the girl comes and stands next to me, she's short and cute. Usual conversations "she's bored just hanging around Ayala". I said she was too young, are you over 18. She says she is 24. I admit I was only at Ayala on this trip to find a girl so I might as well investigate this one. We sit and eat while I interview her and convince myself she is older. Her story checks out and her conversation has enough of a timeline that she is well out of school.
Back to the hotel and she showers. I'm still worried about the age. I ask her for actual ID, She produced a number of items which to me seemed legit and she really was 24, real name etc etc.
Sex & BBBJ were pretty stock standard and she was on her way. SHe was reporting into a minder somewhere.
Anyway, even though she was legit I still didn't enjoy it, just too concerned.
As a general observation the girls working the floor in Ayala do seem to now be orgaised by someone somewhere. Not as much fun as previously.
Make your own adventures.
BD.
[QUOTE=BrainDrain;1742177]Going up the escalators at Ayala and I get a look from a young girl standing with her "mom" near the bottom. Way too young for me. Anyway, enough eye contact had been made so I stopped walking and leaned on the upstairs railing to look around the center. The 'mom' was either the mamasan or a random.
As a general observation the girls working the floor in Ayala do seem to now be orgaised by someone somewhere. Not as much fun as previously.
Make your own adventures.
BD.[/QUOTE]The Ayala walkers are well known to those who regularly hang there. Some I see a lot and they walk past Bos Coffee, down to TGIF and Seattle and up the escalators to Bos. Many times. Seen one with men in wheelchairs (she truly is not fussy) and am told she is very cheap (she is also a fugly IMHO). But there are plenty. As BD alluded, you stand and lean over the railings some cutie will approach you.
And likely she was the mama BD as a few sit outside at Seattle and Bos looking for a likely punter.
But then there are the LBs with boob jobs hanging around and have seen some unsuspecting punter meet them. Then the LB returns sometimes quickly when the punter realizes she is really a her despite the looks. Some hang in the coffee shops make lots of noise and at times feel each others false boobs (very loudly).
So buyer beware LOL.
[QUOTE=BrainDrain;1742175]On my second trip to Cebu back in 2011 I dated a girl that I had met through DIA.
First meeting we went to a IT Park resto, had some drinks and she came back to the hotel. A beautiful BBBJ to completion ensued, no sex and she was gone.
We kept in touch, next visit, meet, club, hotel but no sex.
Next visit, resto and Ayala, chat etc, bed but no sex.
You get the picture.
On my last visit, my farewell Cebu visit to say goodbye to her as my business has changed in Phils she meets me on the first night. BBBJ to completion, no sex and she goes to work.
Second night she arrives back at the hotel with a bottle of wine, we drink and eat, she spends the night dancing in front of the mirror for my benefit. She has obviously made up her mind that it was time. She also knew it was the last time I would see her.
So, it took me four years to finally get to love this beautiful young lady. Patience is finally rewarded.
How patient are other mongers?[/QUOTE]BD,
Interesting post. I personally would have "laid" down the law so to speak early on if you were interested in her. Sometimes they will get all maldita and you never see them again, sometimes they think about it for a few days and then allow you to jerjer them, sometimes they pass you off to one of there friends. Either way mate if you wanted her bad enough it's ok to wait "for awhile" but 4 years is way too long for me.
Usually I prefer to build up some kind of relationship online and that helps to remove a lot of the feelings they might have of being a pro. Most of the normal filipinas get all happy when they know I will come to see them and they build it up mentally so when we do meet a large percentage of the time I can get it in on the first or second meeting. Dragging things out only leads to the Filipina holding sex over me like some kind of reward or power play. I don't put up with that crap! That's the same stuff Western women do and it's the reason I go to Asia instead of chasing fat western chubbies, yah a lot of you guys know what I mean and have experienced it for yourself.
Personally when I meet a new Filipina I can kind of tell if things will lead to her riding me like a bronco while I hold a vibrator in her ass as she screams "bastos, oh sheet, ohh sheet!" I give it a couple of days and if I sense she's trying to scam me or squeeze me for pesos without putting out I stop communication with her. If she texts me asking what's wrong I tell her the truth, that I'm looking for a woman that can take good care of me both in life and in bed. That usually gets her in bed or she moves on to find some other stand by.
I always remain polite and never burn the bridges unless she turns out to be a certified 5 alarm scammer. If so I block them and move on. There's far too many other willing Filipinas around to try and play games with one that will not put out.
I have met Filipinas that I just wasn't into sexually for what ever reason. I keep them as friends and meet up from time to time for a meal or whatever when I pass through town. Many times they will ask me if it's ok to bring a friend or two to join us for a bite to eat. This is when things get interesting. Meeting her friends is like going to the casino, sometimes you strike out and sometimes you hit the jackpot, but whatever way it turns out usually I have a good time and it only costs me a few pesos. If you have some game and can make them laugh you can get an offer for one or more of her friends. So just because sparks didn't fly with the first Filipina doesn't mean she can't find you some quality coochie to play with.
It's more fun in the 7107!
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;1742390]The Ayala walkers are well known to those who regularly hang there. Some I see a lot and they walk past Bos Coffee, down to TGIF and Seattle and up the escalators to Bos. Many times. Seen one with men in wheelchairs (she truly is not fussy) and am told she is very cheap (she is also a fugly IMHO). But there are plenty. [/QUOTE]Some of those regulars are very high mileage. I know a few of them that I chat with once in awhile. They told me they used to work in AC and in a few of the smaller local bars.
They tell newbs they're fresh in town from the province and looking for a few pesos. I usually smile when I bump into one of them as they walk around Ayala with a client.
I prefer lower mileage but to each there own.
As per other recent Cebu reports, I have been a regular visitor in Cebu over the last few years.
My initial motivation to visit Cebu was a chat mate that I entered into a school sponsorship arrangement with.
This went well for 1 year then I started to develop suspicions about other activities beyond me.
In particular I found her profile on various modelling websites like [URL]yomodel.com[/URL].
Upon querying her she admitted to multiple underwear photo sessions in hotel rooms but there was nothing beyond that.
I had my doubts and she quoted one German photographer who said he worked for a German fashion magazine and was searching for models for the magazine.
I searched LinkedIn and after validating with her the profile photo was correct, I proved to her he was a network support engineer for a German company in Shanghai.
She assured me none of the photographers asked for anything more than the photo shoot. But given the complete fabricated story of the German photographer I had my doubts.
We ended up finishing our arrangement because I ultimately I did catch her cheating with another sponsor.
The point of this post is not to lament being sucked in by this girl or the merits / demerits of sponsorship.
The point of this post is to raise the prospect of photo modelling sessions as a means of meeting models.
Not that I would ever agree to fabricating a complete lie like the German photographer.
However in researching Cebu photographers in attempting to trip up my ex GF I became addicted to Ossie Hermosisima photos of Cebu models he posts on flickr and [URL]500px.com[/URL].
I always see he has photo sessions with western photographers who I assume they pay him for photo sessions.
Funny enough I became fixated on one of his models who I subsequently by good fortune met at Volvo KTV (I won't say her name).
Nearly every trip I see Ossie (but have never introduced myself. He is easy to recognize with beard and glasses) either at SM or last trip I saw him sitting with a western guy at Bo's coffee in Ayala.
Has anyone ever tried the photo modelling session approach? Not that I am assuming it leads to anything more. But Ossie does get some good looking girls.
I might contact Ossie and see whether he does offer photo training sessions.
[QUOTE=MsAccount;1746467]We ended up finishing our arrangement because I ultimately I did catch her cheating with another sponsor.
However in researching Cebu photographers in attempting to trip up my ex GF I became addicted to Ossie Hermosisima photos of Cebu models he posts on flickr and [URL]500px.com[/URL].
Nearly every trip I see Ossie (but have never introduced myself. He is easy to recognize with beard and glasses) either at SM or last trip I saw him sitting with a western guy at Bo's coffee in Ayala...[/QUOTE]Ossie is usually hanging around Bos camera in hand etc but doing nothing else except drinking coffee and talking. Many have doubts he is really a photographer LOL as all he does is sit there all day.
What is so unusual about the girl having multiple sponsors, this happens a lot until they find "Mr Right".
I know many girls who do photo shoots, some naked but these are private and are never seen in this country. Some of the "photographers" are basically naughty mongers who fool the ladies like the German you noted.
Most girls here love to pose for photos problem is making them not to the V" sign which is a bad pinay characteristic IMHO.
[QUOTE=MsAccount;1746467]Upon querying her she admitted to multiple underwear photo sessions in hotel rooms but there was nothing beyond that.
I had my doubts and she quoted one German photographer who said he worked for a German fashion magazine and was searching for models for the magazine.
She assured me none of the photographers asked for anything more than the photo shoot. But given the complete fabricated story of the German photographer I had my doubts.
[/QUOTE]Nude or semi-nude photography of the model without the sex? Its possible. Its also possible the model might have to pay the photographer.
MSA, I will PM you.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;1747315]Nude or semi-nude photography of the model without the sex? Its possible. Its also possible the model might have to pay the photographer.
MSA, I will PM you.[/QUOTE]Not in our case Westie LOL we pay LOL.
But many who are paid receive a pittance (a few thousand pesos at best) and maybe wait a few months for it (was told this by 2 girls). Some will pose semi naked / nude for the Korean / Japanese market with a promise of never being shown in this country.
I know a few who have done Trike Patrol. Blocked in this country but with VPN you can see and while they are well paid by modelling standards if the family find out we know what could happen. One girl now lives overseas, another got grief from friends when it became known she did it. They could not understand why she suddenly has an Ipad, IPhone and nice vacation. Until one of her friend's boyfriends saw the video and shared.
[QUOTE=MsAccount;1746467]
Has anyone ever tried the photo modelling session approach? [/QUOTE]Why waste your time fabricating a lie if all you want to do is shag the girl? So many available that you only need to be honest about what you seek. Many are happy to pose for pics (as WC will testify to). And if you do a shag / full blown photo session then be sure to compensate her accordingly.
Different story if you are an amateur photog and want pics for your own collection; or if you will try to sell / market them (presumably legit model shots).
In any event, if that's route you want to take then be sure to have her sign a modeling contract giving you the rights to the photos as well as fully documenting her age (and have her put her thumbprint next to her signature too).
[QUOTE=PipJaeger;1749617]Why waste your time fabricating a lie if all you want to do is shag the girl? So many available that you only need to be honest about what you seek. Many are happy to pose for pics (as WC will testify to). And if you do a shag / full blown photo session then be sure to compensate her accordingly.
[/QUOTE]Yeah I would never mislead the girl. I am not a pro photographer so have no commercial motives. My only observation is I don't remember anyone say they use these modelling websites (yomodel and modelmeyhem seem to be the most popular in Philippines). And as I have noted in my original post, there are mongers using these websites with ulterior motives. And there are some quite stunning girls (although modelling photos may overstate their beauty). I might just give it a try as an experiment next trip. If I do I will certainly FR my result here.
[QUOTE=Ikksman;1741057]In your original post, you stated that she was a WG, and had lived with a guy but never disclosed that she was currently married. OK, you [I]"never sent a dime"[/I], but you previously wrote [B][I]"I spent plenty on gifts then and for this trip"[/I][/B], so you parted with 'plenty' of your hard earned money.
Same girl? Just wondering!
And you told her husband??!!??!! [b]Wow![/b] Nice one!!?? You certainly weren't [I]"playing"[/I]. I wonder how many members here would be prepared to do that to a girl, even though she had outplayed them (to that point in time)?
Ikksman[/QUOTE]She was NOT a WG as far as I know. Her ex hubby and I are now FB friends. I got the whole story. I am learning many "normal" girls are quite emotionally damaged, she grew up without a dad as her dad was killed as a result of a love triangle.
I was happy she was kicked out on the street.
Unlike most I don't lie to the women I respect them and treat them well.
I was not playing this one, it is harder to find a good hamburger than get laid here!
PP.
Hi all,
I am planning a trip to Cebu in February and am wondering about apartment vs hotel options. I was looking on a travel site and noticed some nice apts for about 200-400 US for 10 days, not a bad deal but was wondering if anyone has info on apartments for rent that are girl friendly, safe area, and close to the beach either a short taxi ride or walking distance. I have RTFF and haven't come across anything other than Elizabeth hotel etc. I like the idea of having my own kitchen etc for an extended stay. My trip is mainly to relax on the beaches and have some company as well. Sorry I don't have any info on the PI to contribute as I've never been there. I can offer some info on Tijuana if needed but I imagine most people here have already been there. Thanks for any info provided.
[QUOTE=BigTwins;1761892]Sorry I don't have any info on the PI to contribute as I've never been there. I can offer some info on Tijuana if needed but I imagine most people here have already been there. Thanks for any info provided.[/QUOTE]Hello BT,
Some guys here would look into your posting history and decide whether you are worthy of a reply or tell you to RTFF. Just write a FR after your stay and I'll be happy. Here is my hassle free, humble opinion!
In order to rent an apartment, most places want a minimum of a one month stay but there are a few exceptions. If your first priority is to be near a beach, you are not going to have many choices because the five star hotels and resorts monopolize the decent beachfronts out on Mactan. Most every property is girl friendly especially if you book for two. I know a few realtors that might have a line on some sea view condos but it will probably cost you. You should consider Airbnb as there are many rentals that might suit you.
BigTwins, why don't you pay your $19.95 and join the forum? ([URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/ISG_Payments.php?[/URL]) Then you could PM DCups. You would probably get along great with him.
[QUOTE=BigTwins;1761892]Hi all,
II have RTFF and haven't come across anything other than Elizabeth hotel etc. I like the idea of having my own kitchen etc for an extended stay. My trip is mainly to relax on the beaches and have some company as well. Sorry I don't have any info on the PI to contribute as I've never been there. I can offer some info on Tijuana if needed but I imagine most people here have already been there. Thanks for any info provided.[/QUOTE]You did not RTFF much then did you? As at least 2 seniors have posted good informative FRs and that subject plus there is a host of information on hotel not just the Elizabeth.
So try harder as my teacher once said.
Buko you are way too kind but also correct, his posting history is frivolous and as David33 said, get a PM pay the cash.
IMHO this is what the UAE board calls 'manager class'.
[QUOTE=BigTwins;1761892]Hi all,
I am planning a trip to Cebu in February and am wondering about apartment vs hotel options. I was looking on a travel site and noticed some nice apts for about 200-400 US for 10 days, not a bad deal but was wondering if anyone has info on apartments for rent that are girl friendly, safe area, and close to the beach either a short taxi ride or walking distance. I have RTFF and haven't come across anything other than Elizabeth hotel etc. I like the idea of having my own kitchen etc for an extended stay. My trip is mainly to relax on the beaches and have some company as well. Sorry I don't have any info on the PI to contribute as I've never been there. I can offer some info on Tijuana if needed but I imagine most people here have already been there. Thanks for any info provided.[/QUOTE]So you're looking for an apartment for only a 10 visit? Why do all the cheap charlies want to stay in an apartment or condo if they will only in CC for a few days?
You can find a few serviced apartments around but most prefer to rent by the month. If you plan on being in Cebu for only 10 days, book a hotel. If you can't afford a hotel bring a cardboard box and set up shop near one of the NRA squatter areas. Better idea still, when the squatters have cleaned you out, take your box over to Hadsan public beach, buy a case of red horse grandes and get a tan.
BTW, a 10 day stay is [B]not[/B] an extended stay. IMO anything over a month is worth looking into renting a condo or serviced apartment because the best value is booking a monthly rate vs staying in a hotel and paying a nightly rate.
Certain serviced apartments will book by the night but usually you can book a nicer hotel for the same rate. Certain serviced apartments will book by the week, but you plan to stay for 10 days and you will have to pay for two weeks.
A number of hotels around Cebu will provide a monthly rate, and it's usually best to try to get the rate down by telling them you will pay in cash, just make sure to tell them after you agree on the rate that the room is for two people with breakfast included. FYI hotels are much more likely to accept a lower monthly rate during the slower months.
Here are a few suggestions you might want to try. You can find a few gems in the TA link, hidden amongst the over-priced three bedroom condos.
[URL]http://www.apartelledearcenas.com/[/URL]
[URL]http://strawberryresidencescebu.com/[/URL]
[URL]http://www.tripadvisor.ca/VacationRentals-g298460-Reviews-Cebu_City_Cebu_Island_Visayas-Vacation_Rentals.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;1763182]
IMHO this is what the UAE board calls 'manager class'.[/QUOTE]LMAO at 'manager class'.
Edit: Wow just took a look at his posting history and it's full of useless parasitic drivel, at least I got the box part right.
Gentlemen and I use that term loosely I am in Cebu for 2 weeks of hard work and I want to be involved in something more than one one one activities. Any chance we can organize an Orgy or something noteworthy?
PM me please.
PP.
[QUOTE=Pinaypounder;1770786]Gentlemen and I use that term loosely I am in Cebu for 2 weeks of hard work and I want to be involved in something more than one one one activities. Any chance we can organize an Orgy or something noteworthy?
PM me please.
PP.[/QUOTE]Noteworthy, you mean like appear in Sunstar?
BTW what's "one one one activities" is that a three-some?
[QUOTE=BigTwins;1761892]Hi all,
I am planning a trip to Cebu in February and am wondering about apartment vs hotel options. SNIP and close to the beach either a short taxi ride or walking distance. [/QUOTE]You need to be more specific. Cebu is an island with many beaches. Places like Moalbaol, Bogo, Danao, Alcoy, etc all have places to rent with kitchenettes. There are no beaches in Cebu City; at least not any you'd want to visit.
[QUOTE]
I have RTFF and haven't come across anything other than Elizabeth hotel etc.[/QUOTE]Obviously you didn't read enough if all you found was info on Hotel E.
Gentlemen,
How would you proceed if you had 20-30 K to spend on rent in Cebu for the month of November?
And I took note of strawberry residence and Apartelle de aArcenas.
I just figured out how to reduce the size of pics.
I posted this in the General Philippines section. Would appreciate any thoughts from the Cebu experts here. Thanks in advance.
Was fortunate enough to make a first trip to Makati and AC a few months ago. Only spent about a day and a half in Makati, but it is obviously a good area. Only had time for a Burgos bar girl and a Havana Cafe freelancer, both were not that special but I can see how those with time and some fieldwork do very well there. Then headed to AC for a week. A board member graciously showed me the place on my first night, I picked up a girl way too late, thought she did a runner but it turned out she came back a few hours later with a friend who she offered up to me and they just wanted to screw, sleep and eat. Crazy place, crazy girls.
On my second night in AC I met a super cute, super sweet 21 year old bargirl who was also really shy. She had only been in town two months and had not accepted many barfines (other girls in the bar and the manager later verified this), mostly wanted to sell drinks (needed to raise money to help her family rebuild house in Tacloban destroyed by hurricane). Told her I was a nice guy and she eventually agreed to a bar fine. I think it helped that I am reasonably young by AC standards (43) and short and fit (I am not too far from being Philipino sized, but with an American sized wallet). Wound up spending the next 6 nights with this girl. Didn't go to AC with the intent of wife-ing up, but it was just a great GFE experience and the girl was very sweet and easy to be with (the "its up to you" pinay experience). Also I was there in July, AC was insanely hot and basically the town is a dive, so spending each day just chilling with this girl at the pool on top of the Penthouse Hotel seemed like the best thing I could do there (FYI. The Penthouse Hotel is nice, but poorly built and looks far more worn than a 2 year old building should, plus one elevator is always out of order. Locals told me the Central Park Tower next door is much better and it also has a nice roof top pool). I know I probably should have handled this differently and tried out a lot more girls, but I still had a great time. At the end of 6 nights the girl was crying when I left and I promised to come back soon. She wound up moving back to her family home shortly after I left town and I have been chatting with her on Viber. While she is a very sweet and simple girl, the conversation is a bit lacking as you might expect.
I now have the chance to spend up to 2 weeks in the Phils around American Thanksgiving after business meetings in Singapore. I was thinking of flying to Cebu, spending a week there (trying my luck with bars, malls and online sites) in order to experience more girls and hopefully not just bar girls. After a week on my own, I was going to fly the girl I met in AC to Cebu and then head with her to Boracay for a week.
Hope this wasn't too much background info. My questions for the Board are:
1. Is Cebu a reasonably nice place (is it more like Makati than AC?) where you can enjoy walking around, some sightseeing and of course trying to pick up girls? I have read that it is one of the nicest cities in the Phils, is this true? Are there any non-mongering tourist activities worth doing there? Any recommended places to stay in Cebu. Should I try to be close to the malls or bars?
2. For online sites that work in Cebu it seems the Board members use DIA and Filipino Cupid. Are there other sites I should look to? Given that I only have a week, it is worth it to spend time online or are Cebu girls receptive enough that just walking around malls and the city can work? Are there any Board members in Cebu who would be willing to help this noob out?
3. If possible I prefer LT GFE experiences, is that possible with girls in Cebu or do they generally have to get back home and can't be gone all night? (obviously one advantage with bar girls in AC is that overnight is the standard).
4. Haven't read much about Boracay on the Board, other than the recommendation to bring a girl with you. For those who have gone, is it worth going if I am looking for a good beach vacation or are other spots better? Any recommendations on where to stay? Are all the tourists there from China / Korea or do English speakers go there?
Thanks in advance for your thoughts. I greatly appreciate ISG and I try to give back when I can.
[QUOTE=Karloin;1780813]I just figured out how to reduce the size of pics.[/QUOTE]Wow. Either that is a very small ass or you have huge hands / fingers. I'm guessing that ass is super small and your thumb could do some damage to that pussy. I have to wonder how it must of felt fucking that.
QUOTE=Hutzesq My questions for the Board are: 1,2,3,4 QUOTE.
I don't recommend taking girl from AC to Cebu. Set up a DIA girl (or several) instead.
1. Cebu is more expensive than AC but less than Makati. For sightseeing go to Magellan's Cross, guitar factory, south beach resorts.
2. You can meet girls in Ayala Mall. Stay in hotel near there. There is also Silver Dollar Bar with takeout nearby.
3. Some girls have kids so LT may be a challenge but YMMV.
4. I haven't been to Boracay but hear it's a tourist trap.
Hope this helps. Other members will likely have more info or tell you to RTFF. RK, for example, will surely find fault with my post as it seems to be his new mission in life.
!. I don't think any place in Philippines is quite like Makati. A few places to visit in Cebu are Fort San Pedro and Yap Ancestoral house. Magellan's cross is a bit disappointing, but you should visit anyway. St Nino was damaged by the earthquake, but still might be worth a visit. Go up to Tops for the sunset. Ayala and SM are the two biggest malls. Carbon Market is an interesting place to walk around.
4 Here are two alternatives to Borocay. 1) Take Ocean Jet ferry to Tagbilaran, Bohol and then taxi to the white sand Alona beach. 2) Take a bus or taxi up the coast From Cebu to Oslob and go snorkeling with the butanding. The beach isn't so great at Oslob, but the waterfall is well worth a visit.
[QUOTE=Hutzesq;1780938]
SNIP
1. Is Cebu a reasonably nice place (is it more like Makati than AC?) where you can enjoy walking around, some sightseeing and of course trying to pick up girls? I have read that it is one of the nicest cities in the Phils, is this true? Are there any non-mongering tourist activities worth doing there? Any recommended places to stay in Cebu. Should I try to be close to the malls or bars?
2. For online sites that work in Cebu it seems the Board members use DIA and Filipino Cupid. Are there other sites I should look to? Given that I only have a week, it is worth it to spend time online or are Cebu girls receptive enough that just walking around malls and the city can work? Are there any Board members in Cebu who would be willing to help this noob out?
3. If possible I prefer LT GFE experiences, is that possible with girls in Cebu or do they generally have to get back home and can't be gone all night? (obviously one advantage with bar girls in AC is that overnight is the standard).
4. Haven't read much about Boracay on the Board, other than the recommendation to bring a girl with you. For those who have gone, is it worth going if I am looking for a good beach vacation or are other spots better? Any recommendations on where to stay? Are all the tourists there from China / Korea or do English speakers go there?
Thanks in advance for your thoughts. I greatly appreciate ISG and I try to give back when I can.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DrBadBoy;1780939]Wow. Either that is a very small ass or you have huge hands / fingers. I'm guessing that ass is super small and your thumb could do some damage to that pussy. I have to wonder how it must of felt fucking that.[/QUOTE]I think the camera distorted the view a bit, but it was a tiny ass nonetheless. Fucking was quite good even though she had a kid. Now her asshole was an other mater all together, virgin as far as I can tell and according to her lament. But in the end pleasure was had all around and a certain pride to be finally a 3 hole girl.
[QUOTE=DrBadBoy;1780939]Wow. Either that is a very small ass or you have huge hands / fingers. I'm guessing that ass is super small and your thumb could do some damage to that pussy. I have to wonder how it must of felt fucking that.[/QUOTE]Why not post a FR or better yet post pics of Filipinas that you met in person, instead of posting dumb assed comments.
Maybe you need to get out of your mommas basement and get on a plane, instead of spending your days spanking your little monkey to the pics posted by senior members.
[QUOTE=Karloin;1780813]I just figured out how to reduce the size of pics.[/QUOTE]Karloin,
If the Filipina you met was not a pro, you did the right thing to hide her face.
Others may disagree, but hiding her face ensures anonymity for her and for you too.
Nice pics.
[QUOTE=Karloin;1780809]Gentlemen,
How would you proceed if you had 20-30 K to spend on rent in Cebu for the month of November?
And I took note of strawberry residence and Apartelle de aArcenas.[/QUOTE]Rent or hotels?
If you will be in town for only a month, book a hotel. It gives you the option to move around if the first hotel disappoints for whatever reason.
Changing a hotel from one part of Cebu to another every so often also throws any clingy women you met and banged, off your trail. That is assuming you no longer want to see them. If you are in one place for a whole month everyone will know where to find you. It's not uncommon for a Filipina to sit and wait for you to return outside your hotel / condo / apartment when you no longer reply to her text messages.
If you can't afford to stay in a hotel for a month, look into renting an apartelle. As I earlier posted Strawberry and Arcenas are two of the better ones that actually post rates online, but there are a couple more around Cebu. If you still cannot afford an apartelle, I would look into a pension house. They can be cheaper but as always in the Philippines you get what you pay for. Many pension houses are run down and full of locals that just love to get involved in your business. FYI many pension houses that are family run will not allow you to change "guests" every other day. There is a reason many of us stay in nicer hotels, it provided a certain level of anonymity, along with the nicer amenities.
[QUOTE=StrokerAce88;1782646]Rent or hotels?
If you will be in town for only a month, book a hotel. It gives you the option to move around if the first hotel disappoints for whatever reason.
Changing a hotel from one part of Cebu to another every so often also throws any clingy women you met and banged, off your trail. That is assuming you no longer want to see them. If you are in one place for a whole month everyone will know where to find you. It's not uncommon for a Filipina to sit and wait for you to return outside your hotel / condo / apartment when you no longer reply to her text messages.
If you can't afford to stay in a hotel for a month, look into renting an apartelle. As I earlier posted Strawberry and Arcenas are two of the better ones that actually post rates online, but there are a couple more around Cebu. If you still cannot afford an apartelle, I would look into a pension house. They can be cheaper but as always in the Philippines you get what you pay for. Many pension houses are run down and full of locals that just love to get involved in your business. FYI many pension houses that are family run will not allow you to change "guests" every other day. There is a reason many of us stay in nicer hotels, it provided a certain level of anonymity, along with the nicer amenities.[/QUOTE]Money is not the main reason to avoid hotels. It is more that I'm somewhat picky about the food I eat, and most of the time I prefer to prepare it myself. I also prefer to have housekeeping to nose around in my room as little as possible. I guess we come all with our own peculiarities, especially as we advance in age a bit but otherwise I function quite normally, so fun times are coming. So, if you know of places similar to Strawberry or Arcenas I check it out before I come in November.
Thanks,
K
[QUOTE=Karloin;1783483]Money is not the main reason to avoid hotels. It is more that I'm somewhat picky about the food I eat, and most of the time I prefer to prepare it myself. I also prefer to have housekeeping to nose around in my room as little as possible. I guess we come all with our own peculiarities, especially as we advance in age a bit but otherwise I function quite normally, so fun times are coming. So, if you know of places similar to Strawberry or Arcenas I check it out before I come in November.
Thanks,
K[/QUOTE]Pip J did a good FR on this a while ago and a lot of information was posted then about similar places, your issue is the time frame as many ask a minimum 6 months++.
It's that time again; Friday October 16 at 11:00 a.m. ISG forum members will be meeting for the ISG Free Lunch in Cebu City. As always, no hidden agenda, no time share sales spiel;, only interesting conversation and good food. Reserve your place by PMing me.
Like many of you I play uncovered (to much) and this trip a little lusty young thing in Cebu got me with an STD. She is avoiding my communications for god knows what reasons as I simply want to inform her of her predicament. I am not mad I can only blame myself but we must nip this in the bud!
She is in Cebu and sells wine for a living, has a son about 6 and her name is Jennifer.
Here is a pic, don't fuck her without protection!
I will keep trying to reach her to let her know.
I passed is onto my next friend.
Its all better now!
PP.
Actually slept alone 3 nights out of 13 and worked every day except 1.
Managed to screw with 9 different women most were repeats sorry 5 were repeats.
Learnings this trip.
Most women at Mango can be bought and paid for, I was actually surprised by that.
Used DIA and FC and actually met a woman I did not sleep with, that was odd.
Most woman who say they are from Cebu are not from Cebu so be prepared to wait.
Once again realized young girls are not worth fucking, average age was about 32, I like them when they hit 30 that is when they learn why god gave them a vagina.
Fucked a couple of incredibly dumb but sexual women who would not leave me alone.
Almost all were on time and 2 chastised me when I was late, a nice change.
Was once again shocked at just how easy it is to get laid, well laid.
Being white, polite and not hideous does have its advantages apparently.
1 girl was frankly spectacular physically, pics attached but we did not click which was to bad!
Met an actual honest little one who admitted to me that she fucked another man yesterday when was the last time you heard that from a filipina, she was sweet and simply horny, will repeat.
None bothered me about relationships, 5 of 9 were freebies but got really good taxi fare 1000 - 1500 pesos usually, that's for my mind not theirs and some of them came far.
A couple did not have time for me? WTH it seems porigners have been taking advantage of the local sluts, DAMN you MEN!
I prefer repeaters as the sex just gets better and its less work fuck you can spend allot of time trying to get them to commit.
Girls from other parts of the Philippines refer to the girls from Cebu as working girls, I am starting to believe that!
Several await my return and 1 gave me the dose, see my separate report for her name and pic! Rubber up men!
My pics are to large to attach and I am to tired to care.
PP.
Met this girl in FC, she is not a bright girl, but she is a very good lover, has amazing tits, no kids, skin was beautiful. 35 or 36 not the prettiest lady taller at 5 4 and 120 nice hips, could lose 5 lbs.
She never asked for money she liked me but I gave her an average of 2 k per night and she earned it.
I would recommend her and if someone wants her digits pm me.
She could use some company, be nice to her please she will work hard to please you as you can see she has a great set of breasts.
I will do again her tits and skin were simply NICE!
PP.
[QUOTE=Hutzesq;1780938]I posted this in the General Philippines section. Would appreciate any thoughts from the Cebu experts here. Thanks in advance.
Was fortunate enough to make a first trip to Makati and AC a few months ago. Only spent about a day and a half in Makati, but it is obviously a good area. Only had time for a Burgos bar girl and a Havana Cafe freelancer, both were not that special but I can see how those with time and some fieldwork do very well there. Then headed to AC for a week. A board member graciously showed me the place on my first night, I picked up a girl way too late, thought she did a runner but it turned out she came back a few hours later with a friend who she offered up to me and they just wanted to screw, sleep and eat. Crazy place, crazy girls.
On my second night in AC I met a super cute, super sweet 21 year old bargirl who was also really shy. She had only been in town two months and had not accepted many barfines (other girls in the bar and the manager later verified this), mostly wanted to sell drinks (needed to raise money to help her family rebuild house in Tacloban destroyed by hurricane). ..[/QUOTE]I went to Cebu for a short time a couple of years ago, sandwiched between a trip to Manila and Davao. I ending up using my time to rest up in Cebu as I almost wore myself out in the other places, but had a couple of bar girls. I had quite a few FC girls that I chatted with, but ended up not attempting to meet then. There are a few nice area in Cebu, but I didn't really get around. I am sure that you won't have trouble meeting girls online. I took a girl with me to Boracay on my only trip. That would be my recommendation, with the right girl, you won't be dissapointed. Boracay is a very nice beach, lots of activity, actually one of the nicest that I have been to. I saw a few working girls on the beach, (watch out for the ladyboys), but most seem to recommend bring someone with you.
[QUOTE=Pinaypounder;1787701]Like many of you I play uncovered (to much) and this trip a little lusty young thing in Cebu got me with an STD. She is avoiding my communications for god knows what reasons as I simply want to inform her of her predicament. She is in Cebu and sells wine for a living, has a son about 6 and her name is Jennifer. don't fuck her without protection! [/QUOTE]Could you please tell us where she hangs about or how you met her so that we can avoid her? Thanks.
[QUOTE=Pinaypounder;1787701]Like many of you I play uncovered (to much) and this trip a little lusty young thing in Cebu got me with an STD. She is avoiding my communications for god knows what reasons as I simply want to inform her of her predicament. I am not mad I can only blame myself but we must nip this in the bud!
She is in Cebu and sells wine for a living, has a son about 6 and her name is Jennifer.
Here is a pic, don't fuck her without protection!
I will keep trying to reach her to let her know.
I passed is onto my next friend.
Its all better now!
PP.[/QUOTE]Why would you even fuck her with protection if she hasn't been treated yet right? I will be back in the Cebu and J Ave seems to be where the hotties are. They do ask high to start like one girl said 5 k LOL I said not. She came down to 3 k ASAP but was a nut case. Imagine that huh.
PC out.
[QUOTE=Pcpc1688;1791212]Why would you even fuck her with protection if she hasn't been treated yet right? I will be back in the Cebu and J Ave seems to be where the hotties are. They do ask high to start like one girl said 5 k LOL I said not. She came down to 3 k ASAP but was a nut case. Imagine that huh.
PC out.[/QUOTE]Depending in where you are that is too high also IMHO but if hey see you coming they will take advantage.
As don't bother with J or the bars as there is plenty hot girls outside those places prices can vary a lot as can service and some friends say while she looks super hot she really is a starfish.
But I know one or two who look as good as shag etc so YMMV.
I've already posted this in the General thread, but it was quickly buried by other posts and no one replied. Sorry for the double posting.
I'd appreciate any and all info about good beaches, hotels and snorkeling in north Cebu, especially the pros and cons of the islands Malapasqua and Bantayan.
I will have a companion and we both like snorkeling. So p4 p and scuba diving info not necessary. But feel free to share if you think it will help others.
I've found dive resorts to be full of friendly, helpful people and they know good snorkeling spots, so I won't hesitate to stay at such a place.
I'd prefer not to pay over php 3,000 per night on accommodation.
I know it's a long bus ride from north terminal to up north, which is why I've always headed in different directions. X Man.
[QUOTE=XMan;1791234]I've already posted this in the General thread, but it was quickly buried by other posts and no one replied. Sorry for the double posting.
I'd appreciate any and all info about good beaches, hotels and snorkeling in north Cebu, especially the pros and cons of the islands Malapasqua and Bantayan.
. X Man.[/QUOTE]Did not see it XMan.
Will PM email you something that gives you an idea of Malapascua which is my preferred place but o semester break lots of college girls do go to Bantanyan LOL.
I've been to several resorts in Northern Cebu on various trips, including a few times at both Bantayan and Malapascua. Not been impressed with Bantayan, but it is popular with ex-pats, particularly Santa Fe. Big, flat island with a scrub interior, so-so beaches and poor snorkeling. Okay bars, but that's all. Tried San Remigio, but no coral reefs and an extensive mud flat at low tide. Prefer Malapascua for Bounty Beach, okay snorkeling, (most places in Philippines are less than great.) Hire a banca to circle the island and it will take you to several of the better sites over the course of three to four hours. For places to stay, I recommend Little Mermaid Resort, just 50 yards from the beach, as that will be in the range of 2500-3000 P. Ocean Vida, also on Bounty Beach, is probably the best resort, but style is rather motelish. Their prices will be higher. However, the restaurant at OV gives a lovely beach view and serves good food at reasonable prices. I'd stay at Little Mermaid, formerly named Sunsplash Resort. If the floating bar is back in operation, that's a must do at sunset. I've taken the bus, V-hires and taxis at Various times. I was able to negotiate a taxi ride for 2200 pesos a couple of times from Cebu City to Maya, however, the wait for the ferry banca may discount that option. The bancas to Malapascua work like V=hire vans, leaving only when they reach a certain capacity, or when your impatience results in your decision to pay the extra to get them to leave!
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;1791224]Depending in where you are that is too high also IMHO but if hey see you coming they will take advantage.
As don't bother with J or the bars as there is plenty hot girls outside those places prices can vary a lot as can service and some friends say while she looks super hot she really is a starfish.
But I know one or two who look as good as shag etc so YMMV.[/QUOTE]WR,
I agree with that for sure. Any girls you have UTR or available that's worth a flip as I will be back in Cebu in 2 weeks. PM me would be great. TIA.
PC out.
[QUOTE=Pinaypounder;1787701]She is in Cebu and sells wine for a living, has a son about 6 and her name is Jennifer.
Here is a pic, don't fuck her without protection!
PP.[/QUOTE]This description is to accurate to be a coincidence and that's her in your photo. She also has a little heart tattoo on her shoulder.
She hasn't worked in several months but still tells everyone she is working at a wine store. Even telling that lie to her mum.
I spent several weeks in September with her going to a few different islands and stayed with me in Cebu. I admit I spent a lot of money on her and spoiled her. She's fun to hang out with and I liked her.
I played it safe with her the first few times but went uncovered after she started traveling around with me. I don't have any obvious symptoms but will get tested. I haven't played with any one else since and won't until I know the results and any thing I may have got has cleared up.
I'm still in contact with her. She tries to get me to send her money sometimes. I am glad that daydreaming of bringing her home was only a passing fantasy LOL I had a hunch of what she was up to.
I will let her know to go get tested but I know her well enough to suspect that she won't do anything about it.
I met her on Tinder and she also has a DIA profile but can sometimes be found hanging around TGI Friday's with her friends suckering guys into buying her drinks.
Hi Guys, I spent a week in Cebu earlier this month and had various successes with DIA girls in Mactan, Cebu City and took my regular Cebuana girlfriend to Ocean Bay Resort in Dalaguete (South Cebu). I also went to Silver Dollar twice and had a great time there being swarmed by six or seven delightful bargirls who pester you for lady drinks but will settle for 100 P each to keep you company while taking turns fondling the schwantztooka. Time Out bar put on the Packer game for my wingman and I at 4 am which I am thankful for. Met a new DIA girl, a hotel student, who I had skyped with quite a bit before arrival in Cebu and she turned out to be a real treat and very busty 34 cee cup so I will definitely see her again and take her to a resort when I return next March. Guys I really love the Philippines and am convinced more than ever this is the place I want to retire to in 2022. South Cebu, Dumaguete area or possibly Subic now that I have made some friends there. The Filipinas and particularly Cebuanas are the sweetest girls I have met in all my travels. They make excellent wives or girlfriends if you can put up with their mooching relatives. Safe travels, amigos.
[QUOTE=DCups;1793744]...Guys I really love the Philippines and am convinced more than ever this is the place I want to retire to in 2022...[/QUOTE]Your a braver man than me. Just returned, and realised no retirement material for me. Excessive heat, humidity, and noise, don't make for any good retirement. Especially when in your 70's and beyond. Cheap pussy but Phil health care costs a fortune for foreigners. They pull out the USA rates, and charge accordingly. Retired friends of mine are testimony to that. Those that survived the health care available that is, LOL.
You will find living there and flying in, flying out (FIFO) quite different. Enjoy the present, the future will take care of itself, LOL.
One good thing about the new location of taxi queues ex Cebu airport is, young hansum guys like me, get mistaken for a Senior, and are directed, if not told, by Security to jump the queue and hop in the first taxi. I don't like queue jumpers and asked "why, why" a number of times, but then decided, this is the Philippines, queue jumping capital of the world, so I jumped in. Actually, purposely struggled to get in the car, just to prove to everyone else, I am a Senior, LOL.
Once upon a time in Davao noticed signs on taxi dashboards "Seniors Discount" think it was 15%. So promptly asked driver for the discount, he smiled and said "No discount for you, you too young". He got it so right, I gave him a tip. The Cebu Security guy who presumed I was a Senior, got nothing but grumpiness from me.
Got my cheap retirement place worked out, and it isn't the Philippines, but a neighboring country, yes. I can always FIFO the Philippines when I get an age old itch.
[QUOTE=DCups;1793744]Guys I really love the Philippines and am convinced more than ever this is the place I want to retire to in 2022. South Cebu, Dumaguete area or possibly Subic now that I have made some friends there. The Filipinas and particularly Cebuanas are the sweetest girls I have met in all my travels. They make excellent wives or girlfriends if you can put up with their mooching relatives. Safe travels, amigos.[/QUOTE]You scratched the surface only. Don't be mislead by a few weeks holidays there.
No 1 Problem once you there: Once you have a GF, you will be under 24 hours surveillance. No chance to bang any other girls without creating drama. As tourist you can change hotels or leave after a while. As resident you are stuck!
No 2 Problem: Life by western standards is not cheap. You want a nice appartement, not a shithole. You pay 1000 USD-month at least. You want a car, you like western food, not only vegetables and rice. All pricey.
No 3 Problem: Once you serious sick your only option is to get on a plane fly to Singapore or back home. Medical treatment and equipment is on a level 20 to 30 years back. And prices are hilarious which you as foreigner has to pay. Insurance. Over 70. No chance.
No 4 Problem: you are as foreigner an intruder. Whoever want to give you problems, will win over you. Even guys low under the radar do fall in a trap one day.
Go there for vacation, can be a couple of month. Enjoy the time then. But at the end have an escape plan back home.
[QUOTE=Hutzesq;1780938]I posted this in the General Philippines section. Would appreciate any thoughts from the Cebu experts here. Thanks in advance.
Was fortunate enough to make a first trip to Makati and AC a few months ago. Only spent about a day and a half in Makati, but it is obviously a good area. Only had time for a Burgos bar girl and a Havana Cafe freelancer, both were not that special but I can see how those with time and some fieldwork...[/QUOTE]Have you tried Cebuanas? I had good luck there many moons ago. Word of caution: Lot of scammers there. Free to join, but you have to pay to communicate with the girl. Good luck.
Was in Cebu a few weeks ago. Had the opportunity to attend David's free Cebu ISG lunch. Small group but totally enjoyable afternoon. Thanks very much David.
Not a very eventful trip other than seeing regulars. Tried the Mango bar scene three nights in a row (after seeing regulars early evening) and still disillusioned. However I have to admit I am warming to Planet X. I have previously written in a FR about the Korean bias at Planet X. This trip over two nights I have to admit sitting with two different girls that were pushing me to bar fine them and they were actually passable looks wise. I didn't go ahead but certainly will consider Planet X as a regular stop every trip now.
The star of the trip was something I have never done before. Was sitting outside at Starbucks Ayala and a well dressed slim cute but short girl sits at another table. I wrote my name and number on a Starbucks napkin and as she was leaving, walked up and gave it to her. The attached photo is the result. Had a foreign BF before who lavished her with expensive clothes and underwear. Also had worked in massage shop before. So maybe not totally the innocent girl wandering the mall but she definitely was not one of the core P4 P girls doing Ayala laps or hanging out at the base of the escalators near Starbucks. But great passionate girl. Definitely an ongoing regular. I have read FR's before of guys handing out business cards (I remember one where the guy also handed the sales girls old phones to use to ring him). Not sure of the risks of this approach. This girl could have easily been under 18 (she turned out to be 20) given she was short and young looking. And you never know where your number will end up if the girl takes offence. Any views on the risks vs benefits of handing out contacts numbers to random meets in malls?
I have now decided to in effect take 1 year off next year (but doing speculative business idea work on the road). Plan to spend maybe 50% of the time in Philippines. Have not totally decided on the merits of Manila vs Cebu vs AC as long stay options. I have many more contacts in Cebu built over 2 years of regular visits but the P4 P scene in Cebu sucks. Also I calculated that the cost / benefit cutover point for renting long term vs hotels / apartments per night was 14 days and it is unlikely I will spend more than 14 days straight in any one city. AirBNB have some apartments near Ayala and It Park for around 2000 pesos per night. There was one in One Oasis (which looks to have a very good pool for lap swimming) for around 2000. So I will explore these options more in future trips.
[QUOTE=Amadeuss;1796118]Go there for vacation, can be a couple of month. Enjoy the time then. But at the end have an escape plan back home.[/QUOTE]This is very, very good advice.
[QUOTE=MsAccount;1797743] I wrote my name and number on a Starbucks napkin and as she was leaving, walked up and gave it to her.
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And you never know where your number will end up if the girl takes offence. Any views on the risks vs benefits of handing out contacts numbers to random meets in malls?
[/QUOTE]You identified in one hit the big risks involved in handing out contact numbers to random contacts. It is a big risk if the girl doesn't give you some sign that she is interested in you by some signal (such as the smile or the continuing looks or other signs).
I don't ever hand out my numbers and especially since one of my expat mates reported how he handed out his number to an SM sales girl in MOA last year and got a nasty text from her boyfriend telling him to grow up and stick to women of his own age group. The BF and girl could have arranged to meet him by text and done a lot more damage so he "escaped" lightly.
You really don't know where your number might end up if you hand it out unsolicited. I suspect we only ever hear of the success stories like yours in these threads and never hear about the incidents that generate problems that you might wish to avoid, especially if you are here for work and have a reputation that cannot afford to be tarnished.
[QUOTE=RedKilt;1797812]You identified in one hit the big risks involved in handing out contact numbers to random contacts. It is a big risk if the girl doesn't give you some sign that she is interested in you by some signal (such as the smile or the continuing looks or other signs).
[/QUOTE]Thanks for the feedback RK. This girl didn't give me any signs. So you right the risk is too high. Maybe if I tried to establish a conversation first and invited to meet her again then it would be ok to hand over my contact details. But I got away with it and on top of that it turned out to be a huge success. But I doubt I will be as reckless again.
[QUOTE=MsAccount;1797886]Thanks for the feedback RK. This girl didn't give me any signs. So you right the risk is too high. Maybe if I tried to establish a conversation first and invited to meet her again then it would be ok to hand over my contact details. But I got away with it and on top of that it turned out to be a huge success. But I doubt I will be as reckless again.[/QUOTE]Lucky boy MA as a friend did the same and received a text message from her along he following lines:
"I am army and know you, if you go near her again I will put my gun up a** and shoot as I am army".
Turns out he was the jealous ex boyfriend who (and this is only pinay logic) she kept seeing and he looked at her phone!
So he was also lucky that they never met at that time. Well they did I the end only after he was sure no problems and he went around the houses to make sure no gun was shoved in a painful place LOL.
After a mongerspree of 9 days in Makati it was time to cool off with my designated cathay pacific cabin crew girl. She arrived in Naia last Thursday, we spend one day at Ascott rabbitwice and we sorted out where to go from there. I haven't done much of intelligence on this bird but I knew she is mixed (us / phil the caucasian way). I knew her late dad was a captain for United and so on. I know she is borned in US and I know she tried to become a pilot but didn't succeed due to some eye issues.
She is gorgeous, tall and pale skinned (just the way I like them). We have been meeting on and off wuite a few times. Sometimes in London, sometimes in Paris, HKG, LAX and ofcourse in phils. She has as far as I know been in relationship and cheated like I do. So in all a balanced "relationship".
When we met this time she was acting quite weird so I asked her what was wrong. She showed me some msg activity me and her processed earlier and her husband had found out. He hated me and had now broke up with this girl. "Wow, that's sticky" me thinks and I am afraid she is now will try delude my ass into a relationship. She tells me her mother has moved back to Cebu (from US) and she has to go visit her. We debate this while fucking and since she is a sexy spinner I can not help myself to say the strange words "ok I can come with you to Cebu, visit your mother and everything".
Next day we on our way and her brother picks us up at the airport. My girl tells me she have told them I am the new boyfriend and even if I don't feel comfortable with this I just play along. She knows I am in a committed relationship but she told me she just had to say something orelse it would be out of question to bring a new guy into their Cebu home.
Nice big apartment in the hillside of Cebu. Great view but still sticky. We spend one night at their house with additional party with loads of drinking and I found the brother very nice. He'd joined his mother from US to Cebu but was planning to go back Frisco this x mas as he had GF and baby over there. To my "GF" I told this is beeing to sticky lets go resort some. She followed my lead and thought that was a good idea. What surpised me was that the mother insisted on paying to treat us a nice time together in our lying relationship. We docked the next day at Mövenpick Mactan resort and it was quite a nice place. My "GF" borrowed one of the households cars and drove me around Cebu while giving me some heads up here and there. Everything nice in Cebu I found to be, according to her, either japaneese build or korean companies. The new SM mall opening 2017 looked smashing and I learned that the great fighter over here had bought 10 dekars of land close to this comming mall. We drove through Cebus only tunell (japaneese made) without me beeing very impressed (I am from Norway so tunells we know how to build). We drove like 3 hours one way to some "spectacular" waterfalls and back. I drank beer she was driving. The waterfalls, HM, again I am from Norway so if I say this fall was around 30-40 mts I told here in my country we do have some waterfalls of like 600 to 655 mts. But the place was beautiful with loads of screaming koreans out under the waterfalls while they had the normal picture bonanza.
The mentioned resort was all nice but crappy food. I don't know how they manage to destroy the easiest dishes here in phils but I would not give that resort a top star due to this. Others than that it was nice relaxing and you didn't need any money around the resort as you could just charge your room. Ibiza bar, nightclub, restaurant atthe resort very nice and additional entertainment. Found out they ran the same show every three nights but its ok. Some sexy dancers I must say.
And here comes the strange thing and I believe this is due to a combo of beeing drained from 9 days of heavy mongering to fall into something that could be a relationship lookalike. Even so I could not perform. She tried and tried to get to sex me. Many times each day (even in thecar on our way to the falls, it was a big Landcruiser so no problem there, spacewice). So then the famous words comes out from her lips "now you have to fuck me", "I am dying here and I am dead horny". Wow I wish I could perform but my willy just would not cooperate. I damned him and cursed him multiple times and told him this is unfair. Here we stand in a sideroad in the middle of the bushes and I can not fuck my cabingirl. It went after a while over to become a mental issue so the rest of the trip I just played her pussy with hands, fingers and tools. Atleast its something and even if she was not to happy it was ok.
I managed to fuck her yesterday while returning back at Ascott after 3 days resorting on her mothers bill. Now she has flown away and I am in BKK for some additional pussy on my way back home to my GF. Maybe the hole GF thing got my willy scared. It was atleast of some mental state. Never experienced this before and hope I never will again.
My soulution will be to still meet the girl but as we allways have and not this relationship lookalike kind of a deal. That obviously freightens the shit out of me and is very different from my normal 1 to 2 hrs sessions I normaly do girls under. Holy mother of God. This was a strange experience. Never again.
[QUOTE=Skogis;1798711]After a mongerspree of 9 days in Makati it was time to cool off with my designated cathay pacific cabin crew girl. She arrived in Naia last Thursday, we spend one day at Ascott rabbitwice and we
She is gorgeous, tall and pale skinned (just the way I like them). We have been meeting on and off wuite a few times. Sometimes in London, sometimes in Paris, HKG, LAX and ofcourse in phils. She has as far as I know been in relationship and cheated like I do. So in all a balanced "relationship".
When we met this time she was acting quite weird so I asked her what was wrong. She showed me some msg activity me and her processed earlier and her husband had found out. He hated me and had now broke up with this girl. "Wow, that's sticky" me thinks and I am afraid she is now will try delude my ass into a relationship. She tells me her mother has moved back to Cebu (from US) and she has to go visit her. We debate this while fucking and since she is a sexy spinner I can not help myself to say the strange words "ok I can come with you to Cebu, visit your mother and everything".
Next day we on our way and her brother picks us up at the airport. My girl tells me she have told them I am the new boyfriend and even if I don't feel comfortable with this I just play along. She knows I am in a committed relationship but she told me she just had to say something orelse it would be out of question to bring a new guy into their Cebu home.
Nice big apartment in the hillside of Cebu. Great view but still sticky. We spend one night at their house with additional party with loads of drinking and I found
The mentioned resort was all nice but crappy food. I don't know how they manage to destroy the easiest dishes here in phils but I would not give that resort a top star due to this. Others than that it was nice relaxing and you didn't need any money around the resort as you could just charge your room. Ibiza bar, nightclub, restaurant atthe resort very nice and additional entertainment. Found out they ran the same show every three nights but its ok. Some sexy dancers I must say.
And here comes the strange thing and I believe this is due to a combo of beeing drained from 9 days of heavy mongering to fall into something that could be a relationship lookalike. Even so I could not perform. She tried and tried to get to sex me. Many times each day (even in thecar on our way to the falls, it was a big Landcruiser so no problem there, spacewice). So then the famous words comes out from her lips "now you have to fuck me", "I am dying here and I am dead horny". Wow I wish I could perform but my willy just would not cooperate. I damned him and cursed him multiple times and told him this is unfair. Here we stand in a sideroad in the middle of the bushes and I can not fuck my cabingirl. It went after a while Never experienced this before and hope I never will again.
My soulution will be to still meet the girl but as we allways have and not this relationship lookalike kind of a deal. That obviously freightens the shit out of me and is very different from my normal 1 to 2 hrs sessions I normaly do girls under. Holy mother of God. This was a strange experience. Never again.[/QUOTE]Well at least you tried Skoggiemon. Quite the storey though.
PC out.
She came over and it was a BBBJ as she wasnt feeling good. Maybe next time as she was cute but like most Pinay girls full of past drama. Man I don't think I can't deal with these girls longer than 2 hours at a time LOL.
PC out.
[QUOTE=Skogis;1798711]And here comes the strange thing and I believe this is due to a combo of beeing drained from 9 days of heavy mongering to fall into something that could be a relationship lookalike. Even so I could not perform. She tried and tried to get to sex me. Many times each day (even in thecar on our way to the falls, it was a big Landcruiser so no problem there, spacewice). So then the famous words comes out from her lips "now you have to fuck me", "I am dying here and I am dead horny". Wow I wish I could perform but my willy just would not cooperate
Maybe the hole GF thing got my willy scared. It was atleast of some mental state. Never experienced this before and hope I never will again.
That obviously freightens the shit out of me and is very different from my normal 1 to 2 hrs sessions I normaly do girls under. Holy mother of God. This was a strange experience. Never again.[/QUOTE]Skoggy.
You make a good observation about a sudden change to BF from out and out monger plus the previous shagging.
Next time please make sure I am I Cebu as I would have stepped up to the plate and been a gallant and good friend and sexed her while you could not. Naturally you could watch (if you wanted) to make sure I am as boring as the guy you met in Outback last week LOL.
I feel for you Skoggy and would feel for her more (literally in her case LOL) but we should really coordinate our diaries so that when this happens again (smiley here) I am there to fill the breach.
My only concern is after a few days of WR sausage and not a Scandinavian one, she may like mine more and I would hate her say "but Skoggy, WR's tool box is way much bigger and better" LOL.
Happy travels and see you when out paths next cross.
[QUOTE=Skogis;1798711]Nice big apartment in the hillside of Cebu. Great view but still sticky. We spend one night at their house with additional party with loads of drinking and I found the brother very nice. He'd joined his mother from US to Cebu but was planning to go back Frisco this x mas as he had GF and baby over there. To my "GF" I told this is beeing to sticky lets go resort some. She followed my lead and thought that was a good idea. What surpised me was that the mother insisted on paying to treat us a nice time together in our lying relationship. We docked the next day at Mvenpick Mactan resort and it was quite a nice place. My "GF" borrowed one of the households cars and drove me around Cebu while giving me some heads up here and there. Everything nice in Cebu I found to be, according to her, either japaneese build or korean companies. The new SM mall opening 2017 looked smashing and I learned that the great fighter over here had bought 10 dekars of land close to this comming mall. We drove through Cebus only tunell (japaneese made) without me beeing very impressed (I am from Norway so tunells we know how to build). We drove like 3 hours one way to some "spectacular" waterfalls and back. I drank beer she was driving. The waterfalls, HM, again I am from Norway so if I say this fall was around 30-40 mts I told here in my country we do have some waterfalls of like 600 to 655 mts. But the place was beautiful with loads of screaming koreans out under the waterfalls while they had the normal picture bonanza.[/QUOTE]Skogis, I've stayed there and the food is awful. The saving grace is that there is a wonderful, and I mean wonderful Italian place 50 m from the hotel which imports most of its ingredients from Italy and so the pastas and pizzas are top notch. The expat owner is typically sitting outside and is a chatty character if you invite him to your table. I spent one week at the hotel and ate at the Italian place 5 times and twice at the Spanish place further down the road. I think the Shang is a better option and the buffet is of much higher quality. By the way, the wifi at the hotel is atrocious so it feels like you are at the Remington next to NAIA, but at least at the Remington you know there is no in room wifi. But it almost felt that way because the bandwidth the hotel has for the whole hotel must the same as my at home internet.
[QUOTE=Pcpc1688;1798756]She came over and it was a BBBJ as she wasnt feeling good. Maybe next time as she was cute but like most Pinay girls full of past drama. Man I don't think I can't deal with these girls longer than 2 hours at a time LOL.
PC out.[/QUOTE]Kudos to WR not RK. My mistake for the Cebu suggestions.
PC out.
Last night in Cebu and stopped by about 1 am. Went to J Ave and outside as well. Hit on by 4-5 outside all meh.
Inside the J, the choices were not superb so I went home alone alas no puki but was well entertained for the 4 days. Thanks to WR for his FLs.
PC out.
[QUOTE=Amadeuss;1796118]You scratched the surface only. Don't be mislead by a few weeks holidays there.[/QUOTE]I have to disagree with most of what you've written. FYI, I just spent 9 months living there and have taken several extended visits over the past few years. Although I'm no expert I wonder where you got your info from and how much actual time you've spent visiting / living there?
[QUOTE]No 1 Problem once you there: Once you have a GF, you will be under 24 hours surveillance. No chance to bang any other girls without creating drama. As tourist you can change hotels or leave after a while. As resident you are stuck![/QUOTE]That depends on you and how you set things up your girl (s). Be honest and tell them up front that you will see other girls. She'll either accept it or walk. You'd be surprised how many girls will agree to an open relationship. Many of them will even intro you their friends, cousins, etc. Oth, if you do promise to "stick to one" as many of them say, then you'd better do it. But even then there are many ST hotels where you can go to if absolutely needed.
[QUOTE]No 2 Problem: Life by western standards is not cheap. You want a nice appartement, not a shithole. You pay 1000 USD-month at least. You want a car, you like western food, not only vegetables and rice. All pricey.[/QUOTE]I could be wrong, but it sounds like you're basing this on prices for rentals that are posted online and not actual experience looking for a place to live there. Yes, sites like AirNib, Craigslist, etc do show inflated prices that target foreigners. Several them I seen advertised on those sites were listed in the respective lobby's blackboard for considerably less. I had a tough time finding a fully furnished place for less then a year, but I did come across many very nice condos, townhouses, multi-family dwellings and single family homes that were more then reasonably priced (in the P5,000 to 15,000 range). Even more so once you get out of the city a little ways.
[QUOTE]No 3 Problem: Once you serious sick your only option is to get on a plane fly to Singapore or back home. Medical treatment and equipment is on a level 20 to 30 years back. And prices are hilarious which you as foreigner has to pay. Insurance. Over 70. No chance.[/QUOTE]We can debate this issue for years. Plenty of bad hospitals and doctors in 1st world countries too. However, I will agree with you to a point. If you live near a major city then fairly good medical care can be had. And many of the attending physicians were trained and have experience practicing medicine in the USA, Europe, etc. About a year ago a friend in Makati had stroke. He received excellent care at a very reasonable cost and is doing quite well now (at WR. You know whom I'm talking about; do you recall the name of the hospital? Another friend there is battling cancer (and winning too); he lives in Dumaguete and travels to Cebu for his treatments at Cebu Doctors Hosp. His care is very good and also reasonably priced. Oth, out in provinces the medical care is archaic. And I too would probably seek care back in the USA for serious non- emergency care. Phil Health Care, a discount / fixed cost plan can be had P2,400 per year. For Blue Cross (Phils, not USA) I was quoted P9,600 per month for an 80/20 type plan (same as what I already have in the USA, but for which I pay over 600 USD per month for). The main difference was finding providers who will accept it (not an issue in bigger cities) and sometimes, from what I've heard, getting them to pre-approve certain treatments. I can't speak about getting insurance ofr those over 70 or with pre-existing conditions as I'm in my 50's and in reasonably good health (at least now, LOL).
[QUOTE]No 4 Problem: you are as foreigner an intruder. Whoever want to give you problems, will win over you. Even guys low under the radar do fall in a trap one day.[/QUOTE]True, to a point. Foreigners rarely win in a court battle, but they do, and are open to get extorted / scammed more readily then a local (but they do to, you just don't see it splattered across the front pages of the newspapers). But this happens rarely. Yes, we do wear a target on out backs and we should keep it as small as possible, but it is a target none the less. Oth, I, along with thousands of other expats who've lived there for decades, would strongly disagree that it's inevitable you will "fall into a trap one day".
[QUOTE] But at the end have an escape plan back home.[/QUOTE]This at least is one thing we can fully agree on! And further to that, although a local bank account is needed, don't put all your money / life's savings into it; transfer what you need for a few months at time from you home country (I'm presuming here that it's a first world country).
[QUOTE=PipJaeger;1803349]I could be wrong, but it sounds like you're basing this on prices for rentals that are posted online and not actual experience looking for a place to live there. Yes, sites like AirNib, Craigslist, etc do show inflated prices that target foreigners. Several them I seen advertised on those sites were listed in the respective lobby's blackboard for considerably less. I had a tough time finding a fully furnished place for less then a year, but I did come across many very nice condos, townhouses, multi-family dwellings and single family homes that were more then reasonably priced (in the P5,000 to 15,000 range). Even more so once you get out of the city a little ways.
About a year ago a friend in Makati had stroke. He received excellent care at a very reasonable cost and is doing quite well now (at WR. You know whom I'm talking about; do you recall the name of the hospital? Another friend there is battling cancer (and winning too); he lives in Dumaguete and travels to Cebu for his treatments at Cebu Doctors Hosp. His care is very good and also reasonably priced. Oth, out in provinces the medical care is archaic. And I too would probably seek care back in the USA for serious non- emergency care. Phil Health Care, a discount / fixed cost plan can be had P2,400 per year. For Blue Cross (Phils, not USA) I was quoted P9,600 per month for an 80/20 type plan (same as what I already have in the USA, but for which I pay over 600 USD per month for). The main difference was finding providers who will accept it (not an issue in bigger cities) and sometimes, from what I've heard, getting them to pre-approve certain treatments. I can't speak about getting insurance ofr those over 70 or with pre-existing conditions as I'm in my 50's and in reasonably good health (at least now, LOL).[/QUOTE]For rentals Pip J comments are spot on but for $1000 you can get a nice one. The issue as Pip J says is can I find a place for a few months. If not try the monthly condos that are well reported on this thread eg Strawberry.
The hospital in Manila was Makati General and basically saved his life but there are IMHO likely to be more bad than good hospitals in this country.
In Cebu go to Chong Hua (and at times Cebu Doctors). The former is US accredited (was last time of asking) and has also helped a fried of Pip and myself when she nearly had a foot amputated. Treatment was first class and she did lose the foot and still looks good in lingerie LOL. Chong Ha also treated another ISGer very efficiently when her suddenly developed an illness -I recommended he went there immediately and a few days later was cured.
As for the plan to go home, yes a good idea and Pip and I have discussed this at times. A my age and condition I have made plans while retaining a place I Cebu. Also go to Bangkok as a few fly there not to USA.
Much depends on your health care insurance which can be very expensive (if a US citizen the figures Pip quotes are very cheap, for me it is a lot more). But which places accept it? Chong Hua would am sure, others you would need to ask.
As for quality in the provinces, this is very hit and miss. For example a lady in San Carlos City (a few hours drive from Cebu) wanted a sponsor for an IV training course in Cebu for 3 days. I asked why? Her reply in that "we have no one in the hospital who can administer an IV" was somewhat surprising. As you go further out of the major cities you will need an escape plan if you get very ill for sure.
I forgot to add:
[QUOTE=Amadeuss;1796118]No 2 Problem: Life by western standards is not cheap. SNIP You want a car, you like western food, not only vegetables and rice. All pricey.
[/QUOTE]Cars everywhere are expensive to own and maintain. Actually might be cheaper there to maintain then western countries due to cheaper labor, but replacement parts availability/pricing can be an issue.
If you eat and shop at malls then yes, pricey. Shop like a local in markets as well as food stores not in a mall and you can not only eat well for less, but get better quality food without all the preservatives and hormones. Personally I think both pork and chicken taste much better there then in the USA; unless you want to pay a premium for items like free range chicken. Same applies to restos, international food chains, like McDo's, KFC, etc are pricey no matter where you are. Eat at a local resto and you can eat well for a reasonable price; and more often then not get a better meal too. Regardless of price, service still sucks at most places though, LOL.
One tip though for shopping at some markets / vendors, like Colon, where prices are not clearly marked. Give your girl a list and let her shop for the stuff to avoid the "poreigner tax".
[QUOTE=PipJaeger;1803381]I forgot to add:
Cars everywhere are expensive to own and maintain. Actually might be cheaper there to maintain then western countries due to cheaper labor, but replacement parts availability/pricing can be an issue.
If you eat and shop at malls then yes, pricey. Shop like a local in markets as well as food stores not in a mall and you can not only eat well for less, but get better quality food without all the preservatives and hormones. Personally I think both pork and chicken taste much better there then in the USA; unless you want to pay a premium for items like free range chicken. Same applies to restos, international food chains, like McDo's, KFC, etc are pricey no matter where you are. Eat at a local resto and you can eat well for a reasonable price; and more often then not get a better meal too. Regardless of price, service still sucks at most places though, LOL.
One tip though for shopping at some markets / vendors, like Colon, where prices are not clearly marked. Give your girl a list and let her shop for the stuff to avoid the "poreigner tax".[/QUOTE]Cars are generally expensive to buy as there is a huge tax. A car I can buy in Cebu for example can get me far better car in the west etc. . Insurance for a mid range SUV is around PHP25-30000 a year fully comprehensive (you will need that as motorbikes are all over the place in Cebu and slalom in and out all the time. Matter of time before the car is hit or you hit them.
Upkeep? If the dealer has a package it is OK but local garages are cheaper but the be careful about warranties etc.
Food. All imported stuff is expensive, local milk is OK but if you have dietary issues then is harder. But that is the same for other parts of the world where I have stayed. Fish is very cheap, fresh salmon and blue marlin much cheaper than say Australia or UK but fresh vegetables can be sometimes very not fresh!
Local restos are OK but if you have a car you can drive around find new local places that are cheap. Some expat run places are IMHO are also cheap (say PHP 300 a meal). Beer is cheap if like booze.
So much depends on your tastes. Westie for example eats at many local food places or street vendors and is very happy (see Manila / Makati thread for his FR).
[QUOTE=DCups;1781117]QUOTE=Hutzesq My questions for the Board are: 1,2,3,4 QUOTE.
I don't recommend taking girl from AC to Cebu. Set up a DIA girl (or several) instead.
1. Cebu is more expensive than AC but less than Makati. For sightseeing go to Magellan's Cross, guitar factory, south beach resorts.
2. You can meet girls in Ayala Mall. Stay in hotel near there. There is also Silver Dollar Bar with takeout nearby.
3. Some girls have kids so LT may be a challenge but YMMV.
4. I haven't been to Boracay but hear it's a tourist trap.
Hope this helps. Other members will likely have more info or tell you to RTFF. RK, for example, will surely find fault with my post as it seems to be his new mission in life.[/QUOTE]Spot on, but I don't know why people mention the Silver Dollar. Was really scanky in past unless it changed. Just do a "tour" of all bars clustered near the mango bars. P / you at malls is not so easy unless you have good game. Online sites take some time but work well. People overlook there are a lot of traditional girls all over Cebu. Be a gentleman, but if you must, say something like "I don't like traditional ideas that sex must be. " when messaging. 1/2 of those doing online dating could want top wait for 4 dates to sleep with you. But, there are TONS that will do the wild on 1st or 2nd if you know how to spot them. Comments about pricing in locations mentioned is def correct, as is info about Boracay.
[QUOTE=WanderLuster;1804708]Spot on, but I don't know why people mention the Silver Dollar. Was really scanky in past unless it changed. [/QUOTE]Most of the girlie bars in Cebu are "scanky", LOL.
Sounds to me like you're referring to the old location (not that the new is that much less scanky). When's the last time you were in the Silver Dollar? The small advantage SD has over some of the other bars is that it open early in the afternoon (between noon and 1 pm) and it's now fairly close to Ayala. So older gents, like me, who need to reitre early to get their rest can find some afternoon entertainment.
Compared to the old SD I would have to say the talent has improved, it's cleaner (not by much) and the food is better (again not by much).
[QUOTE=PipJaeger;1811248]Most of the girlie bars in Cebu are "scanky", LOL.
Sounds to me like you're referring to the old location (not that the new is that much less scanky). When's the last time you were in the Silver Dollar? The small advantage SD has over some of the other bars is that it open early in the afternoon (between noon and 1 pm) and it's now fairly close to Ayala. So older gents, like me, who need to reitre early to get their rest can find some afternoon entertainment.
Compared to the old SD I would have to say the talent has improved, it's cleaner (not by much) and the food is better (again not by much).[/QUOTE]Hmm, not sure Cebu Bars are "scanky".
90% of the girls may be below my standards. But walking through 3-4 places on Mango ave anyone can find plenty of very cute girls. You're success IMHO depends on the impression you make. I'm no spring chicken: I'm in my 40's.
Sounds like the SD changed. I was last there in 2006.
Drove by the Silver dollar and it appears closed. Big for lease sign out front. Unfortunate as it was stood place to have an early afternoon beer.
Let's hope this is temporary.
[QUOTE=Dirtdog;1820981]Drove by the Silver dollar and it appears closed. Big for lease sign out front. Unfortunate as it was stood place to have an early afternoon beer.[/QUOTE].
I heard that the Aussie owner headed home, maybe with health problems. The new Silver Dollar was a bit of a dive anyway, not nearly as fun a dive as the old location. All Star bar on Mango (across from Planet X, Sisters, etc, next to Papilon) opens at 1 now for those with a thirst.
Thanks for the update. I passed that area during the holidays, but thought it was a holiday closure.
All star bar (sports bar) seems to be a regular bar much like Geckos a bit further down the street. Both have live bands and friendly women (waitresses / hostesses). I think discretion is much appreciated. No barfines at these places. You need to make other arrangements. At least one lady I know did prison time after getting caught out in the days of naughty go go.
Sister's bar was the place most improved. I'll try to post more later. I'm suffering from PPD and a bad case of airplane-air-recirculation respiratory irritation.
[QUOTE=MrHombre;1821251]I heard that the Aussie owner headed home, maybe with health problems. The new Silver Dollar was a bit of a dive anyway, not nearly as fun a dive as the old location. All Star bar on Mango (across from Planet X, Sisters, etc, next to Papilon) opens at 1 now for those with a thirst.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=XMan;1822260]
Sister's bar was the place most improved. I'll try to post more later. I'm suffering from PPD and a bad case of airplane-air-recirculation respiratory irritation.[/QUOTE]Interesting, thanks for the update. It's been years since I lvisited Sisters so I will have to check them out. Last time I was there it was K-Pop Central.
Cebu has long been a favorite city of mine, in fact if was my first experience in Philippines. Here is a story of my arrival last week.
I left the provincial city where my provincial girl # 1 had accompanied me to the airport and put me on the flight safely with a good bye kiss after a lovely few romantic days.
The flight landed into Cebu on time and I was greeted by a previous flame from a previous trip, girl #2. No time wasted there. I did have a meeting to go to later that morning, so she suggested we go to a Queenslander so I could freshen up. Three hours in the room was pretty good fun. I headed off to my meeting very happy.
After the meeting I had arranged to meet girl #3 the Quest. She was right on time and the fun continued for the next few days.
It can be a bit of a juggle making sure the girls know when and where to be. It helps that they don't know specific arrival times and hotels until the last minute.
These girls are just so sweet. I know I'm not their only visitor but they do keep up the pretence.
For my Cebu visit I had two certainties from my list of 6 names. Having been to Cebu a few times now, I don't experience the same shyness backout rate as in the provinces.
One observation regarding Ayala Mall. I walked through the Mall once holding the hand of my beautiful girl #3. I didn't see any potential pickups or sideway smiles. I thought the mall game had changed. Later in the day I went back by myself and it was certainly game on and lots of potential. It seems that the girls have respect for the games already in play!
I'll be back.
BD.
Took a late flight from AC to Cebu. Airport is still in a pitiful state at least the domestic side. Flight was delayed and reached waterfront lahug around midnight. My girl was supposed to meet me but could not find her. All day she was texting and calling but at the crunch time no action. DO NOT FEEL SORRY FOR ME.
Plenty of girls lounging around ready to be picked up. Some good looking. No security at all monitoring as some forum member suggested. That is why I wanted my GF registered as a guest. No security at the elevators either. The girl updated my room to a suite. Nice.
Anyway went on texting and calling GF. Ultimately she said she is sorry and could not meet me. Today I found out her whole family came to town unexpectedly and do not know if I can do anything. Back to my trusted skills with computer. First one was ready to come and blow er fuck my brains out. Wanted me to pay taxi outside. Wanted me to pay her last month bill 1500 pesos. Agreed.
Thin waif like woman not at all look like in dating site. Said she is 21 but looked like 35. Maybe the girl sent her mother instead- LOL. Maybe the girl felt why damage her pussy while already damaged mother would do for this stupid foreigner who wants sex early morning.
I was very hungry and took her to Buffett breakfast which was included in room rate. She did not eat much anyway. On closer inspection she had some patches like band aid stuck here and there. I asked her about it. She gave some vague answer. After breakfast I cut her out saying I am not interested in thin women knowing how I like bb. Gave her more taxi money. Back to the room. This time I am not getting depressed knowing what happened in AC. Was not in a real hurry because AC girl satisfied me for a good long time. In fact if my GF showed up I was going to give her a bullshit story of being tired anyway.
Little frustrated anyway and went to the casino which is open 24 hours now. Quick 5 hands. Won 2000.
Back to the room to troll. Many excuses, many requests to meet up outside with family, many have no money for travel, one owes lot of money to the boarding house but still has money to be on the web and texts etc. Plenty of back and forth texts with no gain. Economy must have improved since the last time I was here six months ago. Where are my pretty previous conquests? Deleted all numbers confident will find many in no time. Bad decision for minor infractions.
Beautifull girl from ormoc wants to be here. We talk on Facebook. But she has a baby now and I am in no mood to wire money and wait for her boat to arrive. God knows how she might have changed although in Facebook she looks ok. But do not want extra added pressure to buy the baby this and that. Besides previous times were fun getting drunk with her and having wonderfull time. Now with a baby she may not be that wild.
Decided enough of this shit and want to try the casino girls tonight and see how it goes. Nice nap. Thinking of going to the gym and pool but gave up. Sex is the best exercise as I recall.
To be continued-.
[URL]http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/local-news/2016/05/19/nbi-7-rescues-7-women-arrests-briton-474616[/URL]
[QUOTE=BukoMax;1884052][URL]http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/local-news/2016/05/19/nbi-7-rescues-7-women-arrests-briton-474616[/URL][/QUOTE]Few days ago and on other media some said they went to see him voluntarily and all over 18 some in mid 20's. Depends what paper you rad, but by charging him with HT he will be stuffed as that is a normal charge regardless of the crime for many foreigners who are with girls. Another report said the NBI staked out the hotel (I think was Parklane base on some media photos) for 2 weeks but he said he arrived a week ago (as did another media outlet).
Regardless of the shoddy reporting of facts the HT charge is the one he has to worry about but am sure until the new president takes his oath the police and=ail people will be trying to persuade him or ways to drop all charges LOL.
Just returned from a few days in Cebu. All the girls I met were from Facebook so not much to add in that regard but the number of no show / flake outs were lower perhaps due to school break, I'm not sure.
Sm seaside. Went to this mall once and to me it is not much more than an unnessary cab ride. Good chunk of the restaurant space is still empty or under renovation and most of the restaurants that are open can be found in Ayala or sm near Radisson. For me I would go for one of two reasons. One, if you want to watch a movie in one of two directors club cinemas. You get lazy boy style seats and free popcorn served in a glass bowl with ticket price of 400 peso. Two, if you want to eat at Tim ho wan which is theoretically opening "soon".
Wechat. I spent some time on this one night while waiting for a girl to finish work at a restaurant. High number of lady boy / transgender but of the two I chatted with one volunteered right away what she was and the second answered honestly when I asked. Lots of obvious pros also with multiple photos of half naked pics in hotel rooms or "walk" in their profiles. I stupidly forgot to ask for prices for research but one suggested right away she could come right over for 4000 peso. Two of the girls I asked if they were "real" girls and they were not offended at all saying lots of lady boys on wechat so they are used to it. One was available during the day as she asked if we can meet for lunch and watch the new x men movie. I didn't ask what it would cost me beyond the free meal and movie ticket.
Marriott / Ayala. Not very strict security at all at Marriott. Never asked for girls ID when entering from mall. Was asked for ID every time when entering from front but couple of the girls said no ID and security simply gave me a smile and said its ok so I don't know what the point was. The "social" on fourth floor of Ayala appears to be the popular hang out spot at the expense of tgif for foreigners. I ate there once and did not find the food to be all that great. I really need to make some effort finding better food outside the malls. The only quality food I find in Ayala is the Japanese place next to jco donuts but I am Asian for reference.
Casino gods continue to favor me. Won 15000 pesos again. But no favor from pussy gods. At least not from normal ones. Picked couple from downstairs from cannot write home about them. No pics allowed even for my reference.
I believe since I was upgraded to a suite there was no security. These rooms have separate elevators. Plenty of girls for pick up at night in and near casino. But not the GFE types. Wham bam ones. Not much interested in them.
Trolling on the internet continued. Got stood up couple of times with last minute excuses. Casino to the rescue again to drown my sorrows. One girl 18 said she stays in a dorm of some kind and can stay the whole day but not at night. Was tempted but was scared at the same time not knowing what kind of dorm it is or why she is locked up. Gave excuses this time from me.
One shop girl agreed for 2500 plus dinner and breakfast but bailed out. Very pretty on cam. Maybe she got better offer. I was not going to splurge before meeting and not knowing if the experience is satisfying. Her demand was 5000. Today I got a skype message from saying how sorry she was etc and etc and etc. I gave her few of my choice words as well. Maybe will try her next visit. Like I said she is quite pretty and in my book pretty girls can get away with anything and I can take lots of insults from them and still go after them. Say la vie.
Plenty of sorry from my GF and the virgin girl. Another virgin girl wanted 10000 for ST fun in a local motel. She lives near the airport. Kind of chubby but cute face. She did not come to my room. I am past the age of chasing girls all over town besides I am the buyer.
Although kind of disappointing in Cebu I do like the town, clean air, well arranged airport. And will return soon.
Here's a website on Transportation in Cebu. New Mercedes buses have also arrived for airport connect.
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/cebooom/[/URL]
[QUOTE=BukoMax;1884052][URL]http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/local-news/2016/05/19/nbi-7-rescues-7-women-arrests-briton-474616[/URL][/QUOTE]From the story, best quote from the perpetrator:
"I like girls and I tried to advise them the best I can."
Honorable mention goes to why the girls were in his hotel room: "it was hot outside".
Verdict: Permanent Deportation. There are girls in England who need to come in out of the rain for advising.
Just back form three wonderful days and nights in Cebu City, my favorite GFE city.
Flew in late at night and had arranged for a girl to meet me at Mactan. We waited in the line for the white taxi and were soon on our way to Parklane Hotel.
All good in the room and she really really really loves sex. I have been in contact with her for a while, genuinely has no boyfriend and really not that interested. Has no kids. Quite a gem. She was out by 8 am next day onto her day of university registrations. I did learn one thing though, that it is possible for a filipina to be 'too' skinny for me. She's cute, she well proportioned, but just too small.
10 am and 9 pm got frigged around by an 20 year old cashier. Annoying.
Midday met up with Call centre girl finishing her shift, nice lunch and a promise to meet on Saturday.
Had a stroll around Ayala Mall, Bos coffee etc. The available talent appeared poor quality. Also had quite an 'organised' feel to it.
5 pm met up with another call centre girl, great conversation, great company but I couldn't push this position with her. She is just too nice and not really aware.
9 pm had a coffee had Bos coffee, a few lady boys, some available talent. Nothing standout.
11 pm made contact with a hotel maid old flame. Turns out she was on the reds, so she was avoiding an all nighter, offering to arrive 6 am instead. She arrived 6 am true to her word. A bit of playing in the hotel room but sent her off, she wasn't speading those legs.
Midday interview with another call centre candidate. She is good for it but needs to go sleep. Next time.
Afternoon in the hotel with yesterdays midday interviewee. She was shy and modest.
By now, Saturday was looking pretty damn poor. Ran through my list, lots of non-replies, no decent prospects. Took to Tinder and went for a random date. She did describe herself as non-typical filipina, she's not super skinny or super pretty. Post-grad law.
We met for our 'date'. All good and she came back to my hotel. OK, she was a little heavier than the super small filipina but OMG, she was fun, so much fun. She ended up staying for breakfast, lunch, took me to airport and still in contact.
In summary, had another good time in Cebu.
[QUOTE=Amadeuss;1796118]
No 2 Problem: Life by western standards is not cheap. You want a nice appartement, not a shithole. You pay 1000 USD-month at least. You want a car, you like western food, not only vegetables and rice. All pricey.
[/QUOTE]Whoa, who in the west is paying less than $1000 USD for an apartment? I live in BGC (basically the nicest part of Manila) and you can find a 1 bedroom for 50 K PHP. It will be a tad small though. In Cebu, I am sure the going rate is much less.
Quick google search for Cebu condo rental: [URL]http://rentpad.com.ph/long-term-rentals/cebu/apartment[/URL].
A little small, but in one of the Ayala buildings is $25 K PHP: [URL]http://rentpad.com.ph/long-term-rentals/cebu/1br-fully-furnished-at-avida-towers-cebu/8214c23667&cl=1[/URL].
[QUOTE=Random99;1914787]Whoa, who in the west is paying less than $1000 USD for an apartment? I live in BGC (basically the nicest part of Manila) and you can find a 1 bedroom for 50 K PHP. It will be a tad small though. In Cebu, I am sure the going rate is much less.
Quick google search for Cebu condo rental: [URL]http://rentpad.com.ph/long-term-rentals/cebu/apartment[/URL].
A little small, but in one of the Ayala buildings is $25 K PHP: [URL]http://rentpad.com.ph/long-term-rentals/cebu/1br-fully-furnished-at-avida-towers-cebu/8214c23667&cl=1[/URL].[/QUOTE]Depends where you want to live, the IT Park Avida is tiny trust me I have been to the tower and show room. You not swing your cutie around on you todger in that place. Others on the list are not Ayala centric so you pay less and some are in area where you may not like the neighbors or they like to know your business too much.
Around Ayala or even Marco Polo in the hills 40 k++ is the going rate for a decent sized place for 2 beds. Citylights for example is 50 roughly, MP same or more but the traffic to / from is enough to drive anyone (well me at least) mad at times.
Around Ayala 1 beds at Avalon can be found via airbnb and next door is Zenith also has decent 1 beds for around 30 k a month when I last checked. Apart from that a few new condos are soon to be completed in and around Ayala this may mean more competitive prices but I doubt it given the pinoy way of thinking (IE charge lots as the westerner can afford rather than price it so the apartment is occupied 15 days a month and pays the mortgage).
But much depends on where you want to be (as it does in Manila etc) - you pay for location and I prefer to be in / around Ayala and if a short time visitor I would suggest the same.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;1914793]Around Ayala or even Marco Polo in the hills 40 k++ is the going rate for a decent sized place for 2 beds..... Apart from that a few new condos are soon to be completed in and around Ayala this may mean more competitive prices but I doubt it given the pinoy way of thinking (IE charge lots as the westerner can afford rather than price it so the apartment is occupied 15 days a month and pays the mortgage).[/QUOTE]I seriously tried to find a suitable Ayala district apartment earlier this year and sort of gave up. The cost of monthly rentals of apartments vs hotels (or even daily apartment rentals on Airbnb) does not add up. Ayala area is 40 K+ pm for a 1 bed and 60 K+ pm for 2 bedroom. I tried a few apartments through Airbnb. Apart from the atrocious unreliability of Cebu landlords (2 out of 5 cancelled a few days before), I found the apartments girl unfriendly. Using Avalon as an example, they required retaining ID at security. What was worse the security started talking to one girl in Cebuano in front of me. I don't want to stuff around with that.
There is a large number of apartment buildings coming on stream over the next few years so I expect Cebu to be a renters market. But most of the buildings around Ayala will be upmarket. The property spruikers are on the prowl around Ayala big time. I made the mistake of accepting an invitation to visit the display units in Ayala terraces. The hard sell tactics is a sign that they are struggling to move so much stock.
[QUOTE=MsAccount;1914999]I seriously tried to find a suitable Ayala district apartment earlier this year and sort of gave up. The cost of monthly rentals of apartments vs hotels (or even daily apartment rentals on Airbnb) does not add up. Ayala area is 40 K+ pm for a 1 bed and 60 K+ pm for 2 bedroom. I tried a few apartments through Airbnb. Apart from the atrocious unreliability of Cebu landlords (2 out of 5 cancelled a few days before), I found the apartments girl unfriendly. Using Avalon as an example, they required retaining ID at security. What was worse the security started talking to one girl in Cebuano in front of me. I don't want to stuff around with that.
There is a large number of apartment buildings coming on stream over the next few years so I expect Cebu to be a renters market. But most of the buildings around Ayala will be upmarket. The property spruikers are on the prowl around Ayala big time. I made the mistake of accepting an invitation to visit the display units in Ayala terraces. The hard sell tactics is a sign that they are struggling to move so much stock.[/QUOTE]Fair comment but Zenith I found good value if you negotiate as many Koreans there and they do like other non Koreans. Some landlord have crazy idea on pricing and some of the apartments don't live up to promises especially on the WiFi IHMO.
Many relators keep texting me saying to buy now before the price is increased (yet) again. The economics of this is, IMHO, stupid as the units are not moving so increase the price. Despite the large amount of new stock hitting the market some landlord's stupidity will keep the rentals higher than hotel rooms. Crazy.
Now if you try IT Park some condo units are less per month but you need to taxi to Ayala.
Zenith also never had issues with my cuties and never asked to sign them in after the first day when they realized I am going to do it regularly LOL and I just walked on and would not the them even ask. And they never spoke to the girls either (that would annoy me a lot as well).
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;1915580]Fair comment but Zenith I found good value if you negotiate as many Koreans there and they do like other non Koreans. Some landlord have crazy idea on pricing and some of the apartments don't live up to promises especially on the WiFi IHMO.
Many relators keep texting me saying to buy now before the price is increased (yet) again. The economics of this is, IMHO, stupid as the units are not moving so increase the price. Despite the large amount of new stock hitting the market some landlord's stupidity will keep the rentals higher than hotel rooms. Crazy.
Now if you try IT Park some condo units are less per month but you need to taxi to Ayala.
Zenith also never had issues with my cuties and never asked to sign them in after the first day when they realized I am going to do it regularly LOL and I just walked on and would not the them even ask. And they never spoke to the girls either (that would annoy me a lot as well).[/QUOTE]WR,
What would you say the benefits are to being a non resident owner of a new condo in Cebu? Other than have a place where 2-3 mistresses can stay, I don't see any other than paying the bills for the pussy where as some will be fucking others while gone anyway LOL.
Jackie seems to be mad at me now haha. Jesalen (jas) is in Zamboanga cause she is broke (imagine that) but may have her come to Cebu when I come back in Sept but how do you fuck many gals if you have one in the room other than the short time hotels huh LOL. Jas gives me all I want and more so no complaints. Well Jackie too and Apple.
PC out.
[QUOTE=Pcpc1688;1915690]WR,
What would you say the benefits are to being a non resident owner of a new condo in Cebu? Other than have a place where 2-3 mistresses can stay, I don't see any other than paying the bills for the pussy where as some will be fucking others while gone anyway LOL.
Jackie seems to be mad at me now haha. Jesalen (jas) is in Zamboanga cause she is broke (imagine that) but may have her come to Cebu when I come back in Sept but how do you fuck many gals if you have one in the room other than the short time hotels huh LOL. Jas gives me all I want and more so no complaints. Well Jackie too and Apple.
PC out.[/QUOTE]Personal choice and I like my own place, is bigger and no confining like a hotel. In the end is cheaper but depends how long you stay.
Check the PMs emails.
I'm a long-time visitor to the downtown Colon area.
Things have really gone downhill, even though physically it's not as bad. The Dark Planet nightclub has moved to Pelaez.
There are fewer girls available, and the selection is meager. Beggar kids got to be very annoying. It seems like there are fewer foreigners and Our Place was pretty quiet, although I didn't hang out there in the evenings. The anti-drug war has kicked into high gear under Duterte, so drug dealers were getting rubbed out on a daily basis.
Appeared to be a freelancer scene at Ayala, although I wasn't in the market.
Started off with DateinAsia, but got a lot of BS. I think face-to-face is best.
Couldn't agree with you more. The social media dating apps is real hit and miss. (read more miss). With the advent of photo alteration apps and other filters. They look so different in real life. I had to send 2 of them packing in 5 minutes of meeting them.
There are a lot of free lancers in ayala. But I was not keen. I enjoyed the vip room at club infinity near red planet. And as I had a surplus of chocolates that in had brought for the trip. I opened about 6 packets of Toblerone, harsheys, galaxy into a large bag and went in one evening.
It worked. The girls were all over me. I totally loved it. The only issue was that the club had a strict policy of no barfine. But I had arranged offline for the girl to visit my room the following morning before her shift for a day time fun.
Tc.
G.
[QUOTE=SergeantRay;1922028]I'm a long-time visitor to the downtown Colon area.
Things have really gone downhill, even though physically it's not as bad. The Dark Planet nightclub has moved to Pelaez.
There are fewer girls available, and the selection is meager. Beggar kids got to be very annoying. It seems like there are fewer foreigners and Our Place was pretty quiet, although I didn't hang out there in the evenings. The anti-drug war has kicked into high gear under Duterte, so drug dealers were getting rubbed out on a daily basis.
Appeared to be a freelancer scene at Ayala, although I wasn't in the market.
Started off with DateinAsia, but got a lot of BS. I think face-to-face is best.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Gunners1;1922058]Couldn't agree with you more. The social media dating apps is real hit and miss. (read more miss). With the advent of photo alteration apps and other filters. They look so different in real life. I had to send 2 of them packing in 5 minutes of meeting them.
There are a lot of free lancers in ayala. But I was not keen. I enjoyed the vip room at club infinity near red planet. And as I had a surplus of chocolates that in had brought for the trip. I opened about 6 packets of Toblerone, harsheys, galaxy into a large bag and went in one evening.
It worked. The girls were all over me. I totally loved it. The only issue was that the club had a strict policy of no barfine. But I had arranged offline for the girl to visit my room the following morning before her shift for a day time fun.
Tc.
G.[/QUOTE]FLs in Ayala are hot and miss in that some are LBs. Always find it amusing to watch them pick up some unsuspecting foreigner who later will find out that she is a chick with a dick LOL. Some of the FLs are always there plus the odd chubby MILF. They walk a circuit past Bos to Seattle Coffee and back. Of sit opposite Seattle for a time and the same at Bos or the balcony. Either way they are rough and cheap (500 is a the going rate for some and I would not use a tungsten tipped condom with them!
As for DIA etc. Always need plans A, B, C etc as many don't appear as they are. So getting contacts, cam before and checking is better but time consuming.
Glad you had fun Gunners.
It's been a crazy year, so just getting around to posting this now. I spent a few weeks in the Philippines last April and May so this is my Cebu report. I stayed there for 4 nights. After a week or so in Bohol hooking up with some girls from the Province, I headed out by ferry from Tubigon to Cebu and got a room at the Red Planet one block from Ayala Center. Red Planet has pros and cons, but overall for a few short days in Cebu if you plan on just hanging at Ayala Center and taxing to other parts of the city, it's nice to hook up at the mall and walk one block to your room at Red Planet. It's totally GF as the street level lobby is not the reception area; it does have a security doorman and sometimes another hotel worker at a desk, but you just walk past with your girl and get on the elevator straight up to your room. If you need to deal with the front desk, they are on the second floor and you can call them and use their app to deal with some things remotely. Hotel employees never asked for any IDs or said a word to the girls I brought back there. There is a 7-11 store next door on the street, so you can buy condoms and beverages / snacks there which is convenient. The rooms are incredibly small, only big enough for a comfortable queen sized bed and a small night stand on either side. No closet, you get a wall mounted flat screen TV and decent wall ac unit that. Room is perfect in a way since mostly be fucking there only and watching some tube in between sex. The bathrooms are nice; tiled, clean with great water pressure and temp, they supply the soap and shampoo. The bad part about staying at Red Planet is that once you make a reservation, you can't cancel it for any reason; and if you wait until the last minute to book it can be a pricey place, but if you book ahead the prices are good. Besides that, it's totally GF establishment, one block away from Ayala Center with a nice room primarily for sex. I settled in there for my first 3 nights.
So, I had a few prospects on DIA, but of course about half them are flakes or phonies, but I started my routine of contacting those prospects. Meanwhile I went to Ayala around noon and within a couple hours of walking around and 'window shopping' I met two young FL. One was a total dog, but the other one was from Masbati, 19 yo, petite, and sexy cute. They began to offer 'massage service' after a couple minutes of small talk. I said I was interested in the cute one, and we headed up to the cheap upstairs food kiosks and I bought them some drinks. I left with the cute one and was back at my room at Red Planet within 10 minutes. She wanted to take a shower; so she proceeded and I just turned the tube on, as well as the ac and climbed into the bed naked waiting for her. I was pretty horny, so I had a chubby going already when she came out in a towel wrapped around her. She was really cute, and gasped "Oh my god" smiling and half laughing as she saw me waiting stroking my cock for her. She climbed right into bed, and she started grabbing my cock; she was naked, shaved pussy. She was laughing the whole time and I figured this was a good one. I instructed her to give me BJ and she obliged, and had some skill, but after about 5 min she tells me "I don't like BJ", which was a bummer to hear, so after arguing with her for a half minute about that, I put her on her back. She was a small girl, but had nice boobs, perky be cups; so I started to titty fuck her and she was into it. Before I knew it she was licking my cock too, and really good. She actually did like BJ, but she didn't realize it; she was really into licking my cock, but not sucking it. So I had a great titty fuck with tongue action and she was into cock and made some great sounds, grunts and almost cheering me on. I blew my load all over her face, mostly into her eyes; I came hard, and she just kept saying "wow, wow" . Her friend was waiting at the mall, but she said she could stay longer and we watched tv. I was ready to go again after about half hour, and she had a really tight pussy, completely shaved. So I started grabbing it. I could tell at this point this FL did not have much experience. She gave up her little pussy and it was super tight. After an hour she was ready to leave. I tried to give her 500 P, but she balked at that, and I ended up giving her 1000 P, which I thought was pretty good as I like the younger girls with less experience, and I came twice in an hour with her. I got her mobile number and we planned on hooking up again soon, and I walked her down to the street where her friend was waiting patiently at the 7-11, which has a couple tables and some chairs. They split. It was around 3:30 or 4 pm at that point.
I started working one of my DIA contacts; another 19 yo girl, skinny gal who was still a student and lived with her family still. She looked very school girlish and innocent on DIA. After texting and agreeing to meet (you have to pay the taxi fare upon arrival of course, maybe 200 p from her part of town) she shows up. I was waiting at street level for her because I wanted to get dinner at Ayala; but soon as she gets out of the taxi, she says to me "Can't we just go back to your room and you order room service? So I was taken aback for a moment thinking I was going to have myself an innocent school girl type, but now she appeared as an experienced FL. I told her No, because Red planet does not have room service and that I wanted to get dinner. So we went over to the Dim Sum place at Ayala. Lots of these girls are cheap dates I noticed; she orders hardly anything and I order a full meal. We proceed to chat over dinner. She is definitely different than I expected; she had a tongue ring, wore a nice matching white blouse and shorts, and looked clean. But, she didn't smile much. I wasn't sure what to think about her. After dinner we went back to Red Planet, and she was holding my hand on the walk back. When we got into the room I asked her point blank what she expected and told her that I wasn't expecting her to move so quickly. Afterall I just had sex with the other girl a few hours earlier, and this gal with her clothes on and mediocre attitude wasn't a full sell for me at this point. Then she gives me a really nice speech that it's up to me how much I want to give her, and that she is a student, but not so innocent. I wasn't really getting turned on by her, but she still had my interest some. I asked her if she knew how to use her tongue ring, and she insisted she did. So, I told her to stand on the bed and strip for me, and if I liked what I saw she could stay. When she took her clothes off, she had wonderful cupcake sized tits with dark nipples and she actually had a nice ass for a small girl and a pussy with fat lips. I liked it. She was laughing at this point as I was taking my clothes off and I jumped into bed with her. I started fingering her and her pussy was wet and she was ready, but she give me a fantastic BJ to start. We fucked several times too, and she was great. She left in the morning and I gave her 1000 P; so she tuned out to be excellent in bed and very negotiable. We planned on hooking up again soon.
So the first day there, I hooked up with two FL who were good quality and value. The next day I was back at Ayala Center. I met a wonderful young MILF working at one of the pizza joints there. She was in her low 20's, curvy, polite, hair up in a bun, and wearing her hostess uniform. I had her number by the time I finished lunch as she was very friendly and talkative. She was texting me within a few hours and was no working girl but was giving me the green light that she was available after work. I had plans to meet up with the first FL from Masbati; so I did meet her again and bought her and her friend some Jollibee, but they were becoming a pain in the ass. The cute sexy one was fine, but her doggy friend was unwelcome baggage who kept asking me for money too for small things, and I had to tell her "I just bought you Jollibee", so after spending about 30 min walking around with them, I was pissed and decided to ditch them, so I did. I texted the cute one who I fucked the day before that she could come to my room, but I'm not going to pay her this time. She can just spend the night at the hotel. I wasn't expecting her to reply, and she did not. But I was over her. There was lots of sales girls flirting, I had the DIA chic in the wings and was texting her a little, and then I had the young MILF at the pizza parlor. I pursued the MILF and had a nice date with her that evening. She was a proper young woman, but I lured her back to my room and within a few minutes we got into some kissing and foreplay, but she wasn't about to give it all up. I didn't push it, so she left after an hour or so. No sex aside from kissing and she let me grab her boobs and ass with her clothes on. She was looking for a husband and a really nice MILF. She continued to text me the rest of the time and let me know she was available for more dates. So, if I would've stayed a while longer, she probably would've given it up after a few more dates together. I had her digits and it was no sex, but a nice GF experience that second day. The DIA girl was in the wings and wanted to come back to see me, so I started arranging for that for day 3.
So this DIA FL comes back to Red Planet on day 3. She gives me another excellent BJ upon arrival, then we go to dinner at Ayala, and actually started to get to know her as we talked over dinner and walked around. Then back to Red Planet for more fucking; She like to fuck and giving BJ. I liked this girl more and more as she was getting me off really well. We had good chemistry in bed and she was letting me do anything I wanted. The final time I came she took it in the mouth and swallowed. I fell asleep around 11 pm and she stayed the night. I decided to move onto Lapu-Lapu the next day and gave her $1000 p in the morning which she was OK with. She was a great FL overall, and quite different than what I expected. I might see her again on the next trip.
The fourth day I headed over to Lapu-Lapu as I've found good action there on previous visits and was going to leave by flight the next day. I got a room at the Dulcinea hotel across from the old shabby Gaisano Island Mall Mactan which is between the two bridges on ML Quezon Nat'l highway. So the Dulcinea is decent hotel, GF; it's time for an upgrade, but across the street from this crappy old mall and a short ride to the airport. The girls behind the desk were super hot and cute and I was working my charm on them, but realized I had less than 24 hours to hook up and decided to look for FL at the mall instead of these working hotel employees. The Gaisano Mactan is really decaying, but has a few dozen sales girls who are easy to talk with and some are flirty. So after hanging out there, I met a beautiful young watch sales lady from Zamboanga. She gives me her mobile number and we start texting, and had a date set up with her after work. I took her to a restaurant right there and invited her back to my room which she agreed too. The rooms at the Dulcinea are quite large (I had a threesome MFF at this hotel on a previous trip), so she was like "wow, nice place and it's across from my work". So it wasn't too difficult to persuade her to stay the night, insisting no pressure she had to do anything with me if she didn't want. But, she wanted to fool around and had nice legs with really tight pair of jeans on. I got them off and we fucked until the morning. She was beautiful and just friendly horny girl. So I didn't have to pay her anything. Of course I got her contact and told her I'd be back soon. I left for the airport and caught my flight to the next island.
So, I had a good run over 4 days hooking up with 4 different young women, and had sex with 3 of them. The quality of the sex was good, and it was cheap. I don't really like staying in the city when visiting Cebu, but there is good quality pussy there.
[QUOTE=GoodTimeTrvlr;1931049]
Girl #1 - She left in the morning and I gave her 1000 P; so she tuned out to be excellent in bed and very negotiable. We planned on hooking up again soon.
Girl#2 - I decided to move onto Lapu-Lapu the next day and gave her $1000 p in the morning which she was OK with.[/QUOTE]Thanks Great Report nice to know that had great value for only 1000 piso.
[QUOTE=ClearWater;1935193]Thanks Great Report nice to know that had great value for only 1000 piso.[/QUOTE]Do not believe all you read. I was whoring in Cebu before a lot of you guys were born, early 1970's. And have visited hundreds of times since, pooing, of course.
P1000 will not buy you anything much. You certainly will not boast about 'her'. "Pics are rare, when they dare" (to boast).
Why would a quality woman sell herself cheap?
Not in America, not in Phils. Does not happen. Except to those lads hidden away in Mummies basement, LOL.
Are you a movie star on vacation from Hollywood? Then you won't even pay P1000. You will not pay anything. She will be down on her knees sucking you off before you can say "Hello".
[QUOTE=Sxxxx;1936098]Do not believe all you read. P1000 will not buy you anything much. You certainly will not boast about 'her'. Not in America, not in Phils. Does not happen. Except to those lads hidden away in Mummies basement, LOL. Are you a movie star on vacation from Hollywood? Then you won't even pay P1000. You will not pay anything. She will be down on her knees sucking you off before you can say "Hello".[/QUOTE]I do agree with you. I was not looking at Ayala Mall but waiting for a girl I had met on DIA. A girl approached me offering massage and I was upfront and asked. It's up to you. I insisted and she quoted 3000 p. She could be a 6-7 and no more. I just laughed. Then she asked how much I would like to pay. As I was waiting for my girl, I did not continue the conversation. It would be rare to pay an unknown girl 1000 p. I just got away with not paying a lot as I had conversed for about 3 months with about 10 girls and only 3 actually happened. With these girls, they did not want anything but I insisted on paying something as taxis are expensive even if they take the bus and I added some more to just help them. It was just luck. No unknown semi-pro or a pro will accept 1000 p. I was quoted a lot more when I went down town one evening just to check out, They would not go down as there were other punters ready to pay.
[QUOTE=LifeIsABeach;1936148]I do agree with you. I was not looking at Ayala Mall but waiting for a girl I had met on DIA. A girl approached me offering massage and I was upfront and asked. It's up to you. I insisted and she quoted 3000 p. She could be a 6-7 and no more. I just laughed. Then she asked how much I would like to pay. As I was waiting for my girl, I did not continue the conversation. It would be rare to pay an unknown girl 1000 p. I just got away with not paying a lot as I had conversed for about 3 months with about 10 girls and only 3 actually happened. With these girls, they did not want anything but I insisted on paying something as taxis are expensive even if they take the bus and I added some more to just help them. It was just luck. No unknown semi-pro or a pro will accept 1000 p. I was quoted a lot more when I went down town one evening just to check out, They would not go down as there were other punters ready to pay.[/QUOTE]It might add to the confusion even more when I say I agree with you, when you can get something for P1000. Example dating site girls who have not got a clue what the pro's are getting. Of course some dating site girls are pro's and they know what the going rate is.
Pay what you like. I pay what I think the girl is worth. Those that pay 1000 and get their rocks off. More power to you.
Oh shit, I should never have opened my mouth, on this, LOL.
I'm happy, she is happy, that's all that matters, whether its P100 or P10,000.
[QUOTE=Sxxxx;1936098]
P1000 will not buy you anything much. You certainly will not boast about 'her'. "Pics are rare, when they dare" (to boast).
[/QUOTE]A lot of pricing has to do with timing. One lunch break walking back from office to Marriott I got offered a massage by two young girls. I forget the original price. As I walked away they made another offer which I think was about P600 for the two of them. In the room they first devoured the entire 'hotel's complimentary' fruit, (also asked to souvenir the bowl), then they showered, one gave BJ, one gave FS / They were out and I was back to work.
A) they were hungry, b) must have been a slow day c) they were new into town d) they were happy.
I'm sure an auntie adopted them and showed them the real prices.
BD.
[QUOTE=Sxxxx;1936221]I'm happy, she is happy, that's all that matters, whether its P100 or P10,000.[/QUOTE]Well said, good man.
However, IMHO and personal experience, paying what we think she's worth after the date is over, is unfortunately a 'luxury' for an old / older / not that handsome / no the girls type guy? I believe the girl must like you at least a bit in order to agree on something like that, I was amazed to see top hardcore freelancer hookers not asking me for money because they were just too shy! Like I did them a favor sleeping with them? These women are incredible. Some of the most interesting creatures on earth.
[QUOTE=Sodoma;1940892]Well said, good man. However, IMHO and personal experience, paying what we think she's worth after the date is over,[/QUOTE]Something to think about: 1) What you think she is worth, 2) what *she* thinks she is worth (often times synonymous with the going rate), 3) her initial asking price, 4) and what she is willing to accept (rock bottom price) for the service, are 4 different numbers. See below. I find most men don't have an understanding of this.
[QUOTE=BrainDrain;1940190]A lot of pricing has to do with timing. BD.[/QUOTE]Well said. The 4 numbers mentioned above change daily (or more often) for FL's. If she is desperate to make the rent or electric payment TODAY, that last number (willing to accept) might drop to as little as a few hundred pesos -- and you might just not be aware of it. You should always consider balking at a FL's initial price request (and you should always dicker). Dickering gets the girl to talk about her situation: "Oh I must pay the electric today or they shut off". Great, sweetie, we are getting closer to item #4 above.
[QUOTE=Sxxxx;1936221]It might add to the confusion even more when I say I agree with you, when you can get something for P1000. Example dating site girls who have not got a clue what the pro's are getting. Of course some dating site girls are pro's and they know what the going rate is.
Pay what you like. I pay what I think the girl is worth. Those that pay 1000 and get their rocks off. More power to you.
Oh shit, I should never have opened my mouth, on this, LOL.
I'm happy, she is happy, that's all that matters, whether its P100 or P10,000.[/QUOTE]Even the dating site girls know the rates. One cute girl wanted 10000 per day which quickly dropped to 4000. Another one would not go below 3000. I usually ignore the girls when they start talking about money.
[QUOTE=Sammon;1941474]Even the dating site girls know the rates. One cute girl wanted 10000 per day which quickly dropped to 4000. Another one would not go below 3000. I usually ignore the girls when they start talking about money.[/QUOTE]As I said in my last post on this subject: "Of course some dating site girls are pro's and they know what the going rate is". The girls you mention are testing to see if your a newbie sucker, LOL. One of the reasons less attractive girls in the bar business. Nowadays attractive ones can be a secret hooker, not on stage, and they can exploit the basement keyboard warriors, who have never been to the Phils. Internet is both good and bad for our hobby.
[QUOTE=Sxxxx;1941521]Nowadays attractive ones can be a secret hooker, not on stage, and they can exploit the basement keyboard warriors, who have never been to the Phils. Internet is both good and bad for our hobby.[/QUOTE]Its the basement keyboard warriors that bother me. They get to sending remittance without ever leaving the basement, never visiting the country. Many girls don't need my pesos, because some idiot in America / oz is sending her 5 k / month in the province, without any intent to ever go there. Jeez.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;1942078]Its the basement keyboard warriors that bother me. They get to sending remittance without ever leaving the basement, never visiting the country. Many girls don't need my pesos, because some idiot in America / oz is sending her 5 k / month in the province, without any intent to ever go there. Jeez.[/QUOTE]Always beats me why guys do this shit but I guess we live in parallel univers. I have girls receiving 10 k and 15 k php each month from suckers staying back in their home country with loose plans to meet them girls once in the future. They pay them so they stay faithful and wait the warriors, haha. One girl tells me its all fine "why say no to money being forced on me, I never did ask anything but I will never meet him". For us its great though as they don't get to money hungry being well taken care of already. Saying this, a nice gift is always in place for service rendered.
Cebu is fun city if you happen to hook up with a regular. Dating sites like DIA has plenty of ladyboys. Some are honest and advertise the fact but most are hiding the truth even lying. I guess they are hoping once you take them will accept them. With some of them I made plans to meet not knowing they are ladyboys. But once I am here most of them said they are ladyboys. Now I made it a point to ask them right away. Some real girls get angry but once I explain the reason saying I have been lied to they seem to understand. Of course there are some who feel offended saying they do not look like ladyboys. It used to very easy to bed normal girls here. Nowadays most want serious relationships only the moment I say for fun only. I guess if I lie saying I am looking for serious I would score. I do not deceive girls. All I need is one or two girls who are GFE because I stay here usually 5 days only. If I have two 2 days with one and 3 days with other. Or may take one day rest in between.
Of the girls who are up for fun they are starting with 10000 and quickly come down to 3000 per day. I do not do ST. With some girls I never discuss money unless they bring it up. These make the best GFE. Like the one I have now. Happy with whatever I give or buy and I do spend more money on them. It is just that I do not want it to be a business transaction. Many are quite happy to stay with you once they like you and show them a good time.
Today I was free from the girl who went home to do something and I took a nice walk around Ayala Mall. I got less than 12 hellos, can I walk with you, do you want company etc. Most are ok looking. Some girls are in pairs. This is the first time so many girls proposed to me. I guess it is the time. I went there at 11 am when the mall is not crowded or they followed me wondering why I was walking round and round. I just needed some exercise.
Cebu used to be dating girl paradise but has changed. I guess they are not looking for just money. Economy must have improved. While chatting most agree to stay with me but once I am here back out for one reason or other or ask for exorbitant money.
Except for an occasional barfine in Angeles my conquests are strictly from dating sites. Hope it continues.
[QUOTE=Sammon;1948014]Today I was free from the girl who went home to do something and I took a nice walk around Ayala Mall. I got less than 12 hellos, can I walk with you, do you want company etc. Most are ok looking. Some girls are in pairs. This is the first time so many girls proposed to me. I guess it is the time. I went there at 11 am when the mall is not crowded or they followed me wondering why I was walking round and round. I just needed some exercise.
[/QUOTE]Just not my experience at Ayala and I would be wandering around there at least 3-4 days a month. You get the ladyboys and older women hanging around the base of the escalators in Ayala terraces near Starbucks. But very rarely would a young attractive girl show any positive signs or say something to me at Ayala. I always get looks at Bo's Coffee but best Westie or WR comment on whether easy to pick up at Bo's as I don't really frequent there. Just walk past.
[QUOTE=Sammon;1948014]Cebu used to be dating girl paradise but has changed. I guess they are not looking for just money. Economy must have improved. While chatting most agree to stay with me but once I am here back out for one reason or other or ask for exorbitant money..[/QUOTE]I don't have a lot of history to compare since I have been only going Cebu since 2014. But I agree with your statement, the economy in Cebu is booming. Any young attractive girl can get a job, If they say they can't they are just being lazy. You have the call centres desperate for competent English speakers. Recruiters at the big call centres cold call people trying to get them to come for an interview. I say to girls why bother putting yourself through a 4 year college when you will probably end up at a call centre anyway and they will accept you now without any college study. The base starting pay for one of the big call centres is 12 k and the seniors are low 20 k. A girl I know went for an interview with a smaller call centre shop and they offered her 8 K (with no college study). She said no thanks too low a salary. Then you have Mepza near the airport. I went there once when it was shift completion time around 3-4 pm and the volume of people streaming out the factories was daunting. The Korean / Chinese shops seem to rip the girls off with 5-6 K per month but the Japanese shops seem to be 8-10 K. Then you have all the sales lady contract jobs at malls paying around 8 k per month. Then you have the construction industry employing large volumes of boys and the associated sales industry. I have had multiple girls using dating sites as sales opportunities to market Cebu apartments. There is an apartment boom on a massive scale in Cebu. Then there is the Korean tourist industry with large swathes of Koreans flying directly into Cebu with all the jobs on Mactan resorts (including keeping Mango bars afloat). Add to that the Korean students studying English spending their money locally. It can be hard to get a seat at Starbucks Ayala because of the Korean students hanging out there.
All up Cebu is in a bubble. Of course there are students looking for easy cash who can't work, single mothers who can't work or girls working but have their whole family hanging off them so they need more money. But on the whole there is no great hardship incentive for Cebu girls to seek short term financial assistance arrangements. They can easily get a job. That sounds an arrogant statement but I have seen enough girls applying for jobs to know that is the current situation. So it does translate into a much more difficult environment for guys coming here using dating sites IMHO. To the extent that I am starting to come to the opinion that I would not recommend Cebu for guys using dating sites. I am sure that statement will cause controversy but I think there are greener pastures elsewhere. Goodenough's Cebu comments have certainly resonated with me.
Now if the global economy catches a cold (more likely it is about have a heart attack), Cebu will suffer badly. It is too exposed to outsourcing, manufacturing and tourism. Who is going to buy all those upmarket apartments being built. So give it a year and the dating girl paradise might be back. I don't wish doom for the Cebu economy and hardship for Cebu girls just making a unbiased judgement.
[QUOTE=MsAccount;1948055]Just not my experience at Ayala and I would be wandering around there at least 3-4 days a month. You get the ladyboys and older women hanging around the base of the escalators in Ayala terraces near Starbucks. But very rarely would a young attractive girl show any positive signs or say something to me at Ayala. I always get looks at Bo's Coffee but best Westie or WR comment on whether easy to pick up at Bo's as I don't really frequent there. Just walk past.
All up Cebu is in a bubble. Of course there are students looking for easy cash who can't work, single mothers who can't work or girls working but have their whole family hanging off them so they need more money. But on the whole there is no great hardship incentive for Cebu girls to seek short term financial assistance arrangements. They can easily get a job. That sounds an arrogant statement but I have seen enough girls applying for jobs to know that is the current situation. So it does translate into a much more difficult environment for guys coming here using dating sites IMHO. To the extent that I am starting to come to the opinion that I would not recommend Cebu for guys using dating sites. I am sure that statement will cause controversy but I think there are greener pastures elsewhere. Goodenough's Cebu comments have certainly resonated with me.
Now if the global economy catches a cold (more likely it is about have a heart attack), Cebu will suffer badly. It is too exposed to outsourcing, manufacturing and tourism. Who is going to buy all those upmarket apartments being built. So give it a year and the dating girl paradise might be back. I don't wish doom for the Cebu economy and hardship for Cebu girls just making a unbiased judgement.[/QUOTE]Ayala is OK but you need to recognize the regulars MA. There is a mature lady / MILF who always wander around Bos and hangs by the entrance to the 1st floor opposite Bos. Will smile at anyone who looks at her and will come over!
Then there the regular walkers who I see every day doing the same route from Bos to Seattle and back. Some are known to go for 500 if you ask but IMHO you need to drag me screaming and kicking, tied up and then knocked out before I go anywhere near them. Of course there is a spinner who seems to know a few of the regular westerners who hang out at Bos also but she really is not the quality some (including me) would ever be seen dead with!
Ladyboys always there and sometime sit in the corner under the AC unit make lots of noise and get their false susus out to compare LOL.
So you can always score MA just depends on flavour LOL.
You can see a few gems and they need careful attention. Any university student in uniform is unlikely to sit and chat long as there is chismis etc. But if she is wearing FM heels she is game as those are not regulation school shoes and she has changed at Ayala and not just because her other shoes were uncomfortable!! But I have found the odd cutie there as I sit there long enough, they come past a few times etc and bingo.
As Sammaon said, DIA can be hit and miss so I have regulars, who have friends and this is the more reliable way to meet cuties you like IMHO. I sit around Ayala I see all sorts including naive old westerners who think they have scored a stunner only to realise lady she has a todger LOL. Can be amusing trust me.
So Bos etc is a place to go as is Seattle. I never go to Starbucks as not enough exposure for me and can full of Koreans who are totally unable to chose what they want quickly and can't understand the currency!! If I see them I tend to butt in at Bos. The staff know me well so see me and just arrange what I usually have (I pay when it comes over to my table).
This I think is good news? More Koreans is bad news IMHO but direct flights to Asia from Cebu is great news as I do hate going via Manila at times.
[URL]http://cebudailynews.inquirer.net/109039/ten-more-international-flights-from-cebu-before-year-ends[/URL]
The comment about "please upgrade the airports" is something discussed a lot on this board.
Hi all,
Can anyone tell me if the new building horizon 101 is completed and is there any rooms for rent? Any news? When I was in Cebu in July I spoke to a agent he said handover was going to be in September. I rang the agent yesterday he no longer was working for the company and was not very helpful.
[QUOTE=Paulb;1952969]Hi all,
Can anyone tell me if the new building horizon 101 is completed and is there any rooms for rent? Any news? When I was in Cebu in July I spoke to a agent he said handover was going to be in September. I rang the agent yesterday he no longer was working for the company and was not very helpful.[/QUOTE]That was the building that collapsed earlier in the construction phase. Was rumors of poor workmanship etc. I am doubtful if the core structure is strong enough to handle the size of the building. I would therefore be reluctant to stay there.
You could try around Ayala? But maybe prices are not what you would like and there are a few other condos buildings completed close to Ayala if looking for rental.
Whoever, some rentals tend to be a minimum of 6 months. Short terms is available in some places but need to ask or airbnb?
Unexpectedly had time on my hands with zero prep time in Cebu. Immediately hit the closest mall (Ayala) and FilipinoCupid. The mall certainly had available ladies (and male wannabe ladies). There were certainly several acceptable for fun company, but I saw no stunners in my few times. There are two Pancake House restaurants along the same walk. The stretch between them seems to be ground zero for pros. There's a convenient Bo's coffee with wireless and outside seating to relax and watch the world go by. Greetings to the friendly Wisconsite I met with there.
This is Alley Cat and is near Mango Square. Can deliver also so see the instructions.
Sometimes we don't arrive fully accessorized or by the time we get to Cebu we have given away some so this is a good place to go to help when we get short of a few items LOL.
[URL]http://www.allycat.ph/lingerie/stockings-garter-belts.html[/URL]
Hello folks.
A huge thanks to Wicked Roger or WR as he is fondly known. He linked me up with a hot horny super bold, outrageously brave to try anything under the sun and super obedientl girl whose only aim is to keep you happy and hard the entire time she spends with you. May not be a stunner but what she makes up for her looks she more than doubles with her hospitality and sex oozing out of her.
Anyway. We agreed to meet at one of the coffee shops at ayala mall and I suggested to her that we could go to westown lagoon where they have a few water slides and a nice pool. As it was around noon. I wanted to make sure we have something to do rather than spend all my fluids before nighttime if I took her back to the hotel straight away. As she didn't have her swim wear with her we went to the shops and I picked up one of tiniest bikini bottoms. Ripped out the lining in the shop and headed off straight to the water park. Straight away in the taxi her hands were all over me and started massaging my boner. For once I didn't complain about the traffic. Once we reached and changed she came out totally shameless that you could see the outline of her pussy through the yellow bikini bottoms. We got in the pool and she would continuously go under the water and kiss my penis. We went to the private area of the pool a while later and she went under and gave me one of my first underwater bbj experience. I played with her pussy. I am sure people would have noticed. But she didn't care. We had an amazing 4 hours and she blew me again only this time in the jacuzzi. She made sure she didn't soil the pool or water by taking it all in and swallowing the load. Similar thing happened on the way back with her playing with me dick. We got back to the room super horny and had mad sex. She is extremely vocal and super juicy. Fucked her in various positions and had my finger up her ass as well. She wanted my dick to replace the finger but I am not an anal guy. But for those who are interested it's on the menu.
I pulled out and sprayed all over her tummy and breasts. She made sure she scopped it all up and licked her fingers clean.
Unfortunately as I was totally spent I had to send her back. She wanted more and complained she was not satisfied. She wanted to go clubbing without a bra and panty and wanted me to play with pussy in the bar. What an amazing idea but I had no energy left.
For those who are keen for her details please contact WR. She is worth it.
For the record she is a nurse by profession and planning to relocate to Europe. And hence is currently studying a foreign language.
Enjoy and have fun.
G.
P. S: photo taken at the West Park lagoon attached.
Hello.
Found this Pinalove girl and was chatting with her before my visit. As per her profile she said she was 19 no phone no viber etc. I am not usually keen on those girls. But this one was special. Anyway let's call her zein. I arrive in cebu and fix up a date with her to meet me after her classes. She explains to me that she lives far (danao city) which is about 2 hours away. I patiently wait in the room then off to ayala for some beer and then back. 2 hours become 3. Finally she arrives. Man she looks absolutely stunning. Crystal clear face. Sans any makeup. Dressed in a simple GND shirt and jeans. Now I get a little worried when I see her. Is she 18. Will she get me into trouble. She is also nervous. And I can sense that she doesn't do this often. She doesn't want to go out to eat. And wants to eat in the hotel restaurant. I am happy with that as I can do more interviewing while she eats. I am getting even more worried when she tells me that she is not 19 as per her profile but assures me that I will not get into trouble. In her bag is just a pair of underwear. We head to the pool as I want to delay her getting into my room as late as possible so in case someone does hit on me. I am not caught in a conspicuous position. We enjoy a little in the pool and she wants to get back to the room. . I am hungry and tell her that I would like to eat and head to ayala for dinner. I pick up a bottle of wine from the mall and we end of drinking half of it while I eat. By then it's about 11 pm and I sense the road is now clear to hit the sack and pound some pussy. We get back the room and both of us kiss like the world is going to end. She keeps telling me that I am a great catch and I treat her very well. Her pussy was one of the tightest I have banged.
Her books were rock hard. And her nappies pink. Wow. Amazing. We did in various positions. Some she needed help with and me telling her how to position herself. And finally came inside her in mish. I excused myself to the shower and she joined me and washed me clean. Finished the remainder of the wine and repeated the exercise. At about 3 am she wanted to go as she had classes at 8 am. Knowing how far she lives in sent her off with 4 k plus 1 k taxi and bottle of perfume and some chocolates. Ooh by the way. I gave her a thong panty from Victoria Secret. She said it was the first time she is wearing a gstring. In have to believed her as she kept feeling her bump while walking for dinner and said it feels so different.
She came back again this morning along with her cousin. In have to thought I am getting a 3 some. But unfortunately her sister is not game. She was happy to watch but was not keen to join.
Sent both of them off with another 3 k total.
As she doesn't have a phone. I will be leaving my phili phone at the hotel (data wiped out with a company reset) for her to collect. You look after these lovelies and they will show you heaven.
Sharing a pic below.
Enjoy.
G.
[QUOTE=Gunners1;1971181]Hello folks.
A huge thanks to Wicked Roger or WR as he is fondly known. He linked me up with a hot horny super bold, outrageously brave to try anything under the sun and super obedientl girl whose only aim is to keep you happy and hard the entire time she spends with you. May not be a stunner but what she makes up for her looks she more than doubles with her hospitality and sex oozing out of her.
Fucked her in various positions and had my finger up her ass as well. She wanted my dick to replace the finger but I am not an anal guy. But for those who are interested it's on the menu.
G.
P. S: photo taken at the West Park lagoon attached.[/QUOTE]Gunners.
Glad you had fun and were drained, I spent a week with her in Europe and my ISG mate flew in from Portugal and we had a great 2 days DP etc. She loves anal as it won't get her preggy and you can come inside her she says.
Great BBBJ and while not a stunner is great company and very naughty in bed so if you want a wilder time she is worth a visit and will be walang panty etc and do as Gunners mentioned.
We had plans go to a sex club swing club but the place was closed in Europe when we there but she truly kept my todger hard and my balls drained all day. Grreat fun especially when she walked in tony shorts and 6" heels to dinner with me, loved the guys staring LOL.
But she is not a bar girl just someone who likes sex and western sausage, never plays with pinoy and is not hanging around bars looking, just sees a few discrete friends as she trusts they will look after her, be nice and treat her horny LOL.
Gunners1,
I am glad you had a great time (s) in Cebu. Above all I really applaud you for the proper treatment and concern of the Pinays.
Best regards,
DG8787
I have been messaging this PL girl for a while. In fact we have been in touch since my last visit to cebu which was about 6 months ago. But when she met me last time things didn't materialise as she had the painters in. She promised to make up next time and I let her go with a few packets of chocolates. Well fast forward 6 months on. And I buzzed her and asked her if she remembers her promise. She was more than happy to show up in my hotel lobby in the skimpiest top and shortest of shortest skirts. I would be embarrassed to walk on the street with her. But that's her style. She keeps changing her pic of viber almost every day and the dress can be termed as moderate compared to the ones on her profile pic. Any way I am digressing.
We got the room to ponder what we may end up doing. As it was only 630 pm. We chatted for a while. And in suggested to her that I would get her a manicure and some lingerie. So off we went to ayala. And hit at salon di rose for her nails. She was so happy. I sat opposite her so I could see her sexy red panties. Next stop was etam on the ground floor for some undies. She shortlisted 2 g strings and the girl at the counter offered to stick a panty liner for her try them out. This is the first time I am hearing this. That shops allow trials of underwear. Anyway. She goes in and takes ages to come out. I take a peek and she is so obsessed with taking selfies. I see she was taking pictures of her in those panties. So hot.
We have dinner at social and she is so brave that she is showing off her panties and boobies for the world to see. I am enjoying the view too.
By the way she doesn't drink. Had banana milkshake. LOL.
We walked back to the room. She apparently is a good dancer and has won a few trophies in school and college. She idolises Shakira. Not a bad idol. I put on the music hips don't lie and off she does a shakira dance for me. Once the song is done we get to business.
Well this is where things turn a bit down. She is not a great lay. A total star fish. She doesn't blow. Wanted me to come on top.
Sorry guys. If I really left you high and dry. Well I didn't want to be the only one left high and dry.
Anyway. Sent her off after 1 lay. And plan to rest as my trip is nearing it's end.
I have to say this time round cebu was more than what I expected. The weather too was amazing. I was very lucky to have hit on 2 splendid pl girls apart form that super horny nurse.
I did meet up with a call centre girl which I haven't reported yet. Will do so.
And before I forget this girl was so obsessed with taking pictures of herself. She grabbed my phone as mine had a better camera. And was clicking away. I am sharing only a few.
Enjoy.
G.
[QUOTE=Gunners1;1971221]Hello.
Found this Pinalove girl and was chatting with her before my visit. As per her profile she said she was 19 no phone no viber etc. I am not usually keen on those girls. But this one was special. Anyway let's call her zein. I arrive in cebu and fix up a date with her to meet me after her classes. She explains to me that she lives far (danao city) which is about 2 hours away. I patiently wait in the room then off to ayala for some beer and then back. 2 hours become 3. Finally she arrives. Man she looks absolutely stunning. Crystal clear face. Sans any makeup. Dressed in a simple GND shirt and jeans. Now I get a little worried when I see her. Is she 18. Will she get me into trouble. She is also nervous. And I can sense that she doesn't do this often. She doesn't want to go out to eat. And wants to eat in the hotel restaurant. I am happy with that as I can do more interviewing while she eats. I am getting even more worried when she tells me that she is not 19 as per her profile but assures me that I will not get into trouble. In her bag is just a pair of underwear. We head to the pool as I want to delay her getting into my room as late as possible so in case someone does hit on me. I am not caught in a conspicuous position. We enjoy a little in the pool and she wants to get back to the room. . I am hungry and tell her that I would like to eat and head to ayala for dinner. I pick up a bottle of wine from the mall and we end of drinking half of it while I eat. By then it's about 11 pm and I sense the road is now clear to hit the sack and pound some pussy. We get back the room and both of us kiss like the world is going to end. She keeps telling me that I am a great catch and I treat her very well. Her pussy was one of the tightest I have banged.[/QUOTE]Great one.
DrackMore
Last November, couple days out from a short work trip to Cebu. Long time no Cebu. Thought I would take up the cudgel of DIA again after a long absence and ping out a few messages, unambiguously describing my needs. Within minutes Alli replies, quote, "I can meet you. I can stay with you, I can stay with you a whole week. " Blimey that was a bit quick, but what the hey. Alli is 22, slightly plump in the butt zone, nice tits, nice face with one or two small scars from acne or pox or whatever. Nice long black shiny hair. After a long day at work. Oh OK, back at the Marriott by 2 pm. You guys know the Flip work day, right? - afternoons and evenings bonking my balls off with the Alli. Yippee! BBJ, CIM, but no BB screwing. My safety angle!! Anyway, she was one of those gals who understands she has to, and likes to, bonk for her dinner, and with no complaints. A little darling on the reverse cowgirl, buck riding me like a bronco queen going for gold at the nationals at Tamworth Rodeo, long smooth strokes into her delightful love tunnel, and she coming down so hard it felt my cock head was coming out of her mouth haha. Anyway 3 days of bliss. Of course, this was accompanied with requests, "look after my family", "feed my baby", even "fix my teeth" OK, so of course I paid and pretty generously. Upshot is Alli has been adopted by my work team. We are working on a engineering project and one of 3 of us has to fly in for a few days every couple weeks. As a kind of team wife, my two partners have each had her stay as a short-term companion. And she loves we old fellas, calling us "The Papas" haha. Tell me would I find a fuckable 22 year old bunny in Geelong to give me the time of day?. No chance!! Alli is the eldest of 5 siblings and I am thinking there is for sure a younger sister in the wings who might also want to play lovely yummy mama with "The Papas" haha Got to love the Phils!
I was reminded of something about Cebu by Lobster the other day, oh, there is something about Cebu, alright. Hehe. But I need to go back. I have, over 35 years of work in the region, fucked my way through a fair proportion of the female populations of Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia and Cambodia. That includes 2 marriages / divorces and 4 kids. Effing expensive looking back, which one should not do! However, I have to say I have not come across a girl who more understands that the fat old white man will demand that she fuck for her supper and demand she fuck in many different positions and places, and also have not met a girl who is more happy and willing and wanting to fuck for the white man than the blessed pinay, Queen of All Sluts. In no other country have I met the range of ages, types, social class of female as hungry for white boy fuck rod. I hold this to be true as I have had them from 18 to 60 years old; thin, fat and in-between; poor and scrawny as a mouse and buttery plump and dripping with gold chain– fucking fucked them all! The Pinay is top! I wonder where I would have ended up had I discovered the pinay **** before 2009, which is when I began my pinay plough –a –thon. Now, back to Lobster, one of my colleagues. We are currently in the middle of a curious situation where we are sharing a 'common wife' amongst our colleagues here in Cebu. I made an earlier post about that. However, Lobster reminded of a time about 18 months ago in Cebu. That'll be my next post.
[QUOTE=WazWallaby;1990602]The Pinay is top!.[/QUOTE]Hey Waz, nice report! Cebu City is a magnet for not only Cebuanas but for Pinays from surrounding islands including Mindanao! Your office concubine situation seems interesting and hope it does not go south on you. Easier to read your reports if you split it up into a few paragraphs.
Hello fellow mongers!
I am currently in Bali and will move to Japan for about a month, but after that I want to go somewhere just to have sex (preferably anal sex) and relax. Looking for any specific recommendations / links / numbers you have picked up in the regard. Is it worth coming to Cebu?
Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=SigkaPouro;2153698]Hello fellow mongers!
I am currently in Bali and will move to Japan for about a month, but after that I want to go somewhere just to have sex (preferably anal sex) and relax. Looking for any specific recommendations / links / numbers you have picked up in the regard. Is it worth coming to Cebu?
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]You are better off going to Thailand. If butt-holes are your thing, you may not like Cebu unless you are into catching.
[QUOTE=SigkaPouro;2153698]Hello fellow mongers!
I am currently in Bali and will move to Japan for about a month, but after that I want to go somewhere just to have sex (preferably anal sex) and relax. Looking for any specific recommendations / links / numbers you have picked up in the regard. Is it worth coming to Cebu?
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Lot in Cebu if you play the game right and have your A game in place. Funny that you have 4 FRs and asked roughly the same question in Indonesia and Japan also.
RTFF can help you with Cebu etc and PM also once you have contributed some about your anal loving exploits in Japan and Indo. In the UAE forum your handle is tagged 'manager' (same here as some now using that also for those with lots questions not contribution).
There is plenty anal here in Cebu and lots of lovely Cebuanas can provide for sure (I know as I have a few lovelies that really enjoy and in Manila as well).
PM me for more information as in case you did not find the rules and regs we can't post numbers etc on the board.
What a time to be in Cebu on DIA, offers from the college students a plenty for a young 67, can't work out why my handsome worn look, or desperate pay college fees. So hard to work out I'm having fun.
[QUOTE=ColLaw;2160295]What a time to be in Cebu on DIA, offers from the college students a plenty for a young 67, can't work out why my handsome worn look, or desperate pay college fees. So hard to work out I'm having fun.[/QUOTE]Is because your gwapo Col as we know LOL.
Fees are for exams IE they have yet to pay the full tuition for that semester and need to pay to sit exams. More free requests for the June semester will be coming soon trust me.
During a recent visit to Cebu I arranged to meet a woman I shall call Vampiress. Vampiress is a friend of WickedRoger who described her as extremely horny and very naughty. He was spot on as usual.
Vampiress is not a beauty queen but she is a beauty. Her face is maybe a 6 and her body a 6-7. If you are looking for primarily beauty she is not for you. However, she is one of the horniest women I have ever attempted to satisfy.
She lives out of town so needs several days advance planning. I sent her 2 k for her ferry / bus tickets. Normally I would never send money but I had no worries given she a friend of WR's. Arranged to meet at my condo and she arrived on time. Plenty of communication prior. We spent some time having some wine in my condo and just getting to know each other. Wine glasses finished we started making out and the clothes started coming off. Just a bit of licking her nipples and she was over the edge and moaning. She was like a motor, once you turn her on, she never turns off.
She came at least 4 x in the first few hours. Each time she would just want it more and more after resting literally 30 seconds. She was super wet for hours. After I came a few times we both agreed we needed "sleep" so lights out. I was pretty tired and was ready to knock out. Well, for her "sleep" means let me play with your dick until you fck me again. So we had another round and she was as wet and horny as the first time. Afterwards she wanted to go again but I had to put my foot down and get some sleep. I was empty.
Next morning at dawn she wakes me up by playing with my cock and whispering in my ear "fck me". So off we go on another round. She comes 2 x and then I come even though I'm trying to control myself because I know she will want to keep going and if I come then I'm toast. Well, I couldn't help it and come anyway. Sure enough, she gives me literally 1 minute and then she wants to go again. By this time my dick is like a limp noddle but she refuses to give up. She gives me another amazing BJ and gets me half hard then jumps on top and uses me like a sex doll until she comes. There's no way I'm coming again for hours, maybe days so I get up to shower before she attacks me again.
Vampiress drained me and left me an empty husk. It will take days to recover, maybe months.
She never asked for money other than ferry / bus but I know she needs the help so I giver her 3 k with her choc. I also gave her a dress from my ex-wife she liked. Just as a side note, I brought a bag of my ex-wife's clothes she didn't want and have been giving away the contents. Makes me feel good knowing the nice clothes I bought my ex wife will be well appreciated on another hot filipina.
Contact WicketRoger if you have any interest in being sucked dry by Vampiress.
Vampiress is not a beauty queen but she is a beauty. Her face is maybe a 6 and her body a 6-7. If you are looking for primarily beauty she is not for you. However, she is one of the horniest women I have ever attempted to satisfy.
She lives out of town so needs several days advance planning. I sent her 2 k for her ferry / bus tickets. Normally I would never send money but I had no worries given she a friend of WR's. Arranged to meet at my condo and she arrived on time. Plenty of communication prior. We spent some time having some wine in my condo and just getting to know each other. Wine glasses finished we started making out and the clothes started coming off. Just a bit of licking her nipples and she was over the edge and moaning. She was like a motor, once you turn her on, she never turns off.
She came at least 4 x in the first few hours. Each time she would just want it more and more after resting literally 30 seconds. She was super wet for hours. After I came a few times we both agreed we needed "sleep" so lights out. I was pretty tired and was ready to knock out. Well, for her "sleep" means let me play with your dick until you fck me again. So we had another round and she was as wet and horny as the first time. Afterwards she wanted to go again but I had to put my foot down and get some sleep. I was empty.
Next morning at dawn she wakes me up by playing with my cock and whispering in my ear "fck me". So off we go on another round. She comes 2 x and then I come even though I'm trying to control myself because I know she will want to keep going and if I come then I'm toast. Well, I couldn't help it and come anyway. Sure enough, she gives me literally 1 minute and then she wants to go again. By this time my dick is like a limp noddle but she refuses to give up. She gives me another amazing BJ and gets me half hard then jumps on top and uses me like a sex doll until she comes. There's no way I'm coming again for hours, maybe days so I get up to shower before she attacks me again.
Vampiress drained me and left me an empty husk. It will take days to recover, maybe months.
She never asked for money other than ferry / bus but I know she needs the help so I giver her 3 k with her choc. I also gave her a dress from my ex-wife she liked. Just as a side note, I brought a bag of my ex-wife's clothes she didn't want and have been giving away the contents. Makes me feel good knowing the nice clothes I bought my ex wife will be well appreciated on another hot filipina.
Contact WicketRoger if you have any interest in being sucked dry by Vampiress.
[QUOTE=MangoKing;2165913]During a recent visit to Cebu I arranged to meet a woman I shall call Vampiress. Vampiress is a friend of WickedRoger who described her as extremely horny and very naughty. He was spot on as usual.
She never asked for money other than ferry / bus but I know she needs the help so I giver her 3 k with her choc. I also gave her a dress from my ex-wife she liked. Just as a side note, I brought a bag of my ex-wife's clothes she didn't want and have been giving away the contents. Makes me feel good knowing the nice clothes I bought my ex wife will be well appreciated on another hot filipina.
Contact WicketRoger if you have any interest in being sucked dry by Vampiress.[/QUOTE]Had a good chuckle reading this MK as I know what you mean. Nice gesture you gave her some of the ex wife clothes as a friend did same and then shagged his new lady in them because he never could when his wife wore them LOL.
Great BBBJ for sure one of the best and swallows etc with a smile.
Some would say you over paid but work out how many rounds you hade and then is amazing value. And she liked you, wanted more and went home happy with a smile on her face.
So for those who think 1000 pesos max ois the 'norm', this girl is not for you unless you mean 1000 pesos a pop LOL.
Are you able to walk and stand now MK.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2166019]
Are you able to walk and stand now MK.[/QUOTE]Yeah I'm walking again, but drinking lots of fluids to recover!
I also forgot to mention I introduced Vampiress to my ropes. She liked being tied up for sure, though she wouldn't wear a blindfold so I couldn't give her a proper introduction. She really wanted to watch and see everything!
[QUOTE=MangoKing;2166250]Yeah I'm walking again, but drinking lots of fluids to recover!
I also forgot to mention I introduced Vampiress to my ropes. She liked being tied up for sure, though she wouldn't wear a blindfold so I couldn't give her a proper introduction. She really wanted to watch and see everything![/QUOTE]I forgot to mention she likes some BDSM stuff but she loves to watch also LOL. Am sure next time the blindfold will be fine. As I said she like to experiment and try things, never shy in that area which is why she is a fun person to be with.
I have spent several days in Cebu and thanks to WR I had the opportunity to meet some of his friends.
The first meeting was with a nice Cebuana. Very cute face, the body shows some baby damage, great English. Excellent BJ skills (it is always a turn on to see such a cute face licking and deep throwting your most precious parts) and very eager to please and very horny: her pussy can be very wet, dripping wet. I was so pleased with her performance I had her come back for some role play. The second time was even better than the first.
I would have liked a threesome with one of her very cute friends but unfortunately she was gone to the province.
The second meeting was with another girl who, I assume, is the «*vampiress*» described in another post.
I had a very similar experience: she is extremely horny (also a very wet pussy) and vocal. I can not count how many time she came but she was always willing to have more.
Many thanks to WR for his help!
Long time lurker / monger. Info here seems to be more difficult to come by than the other places I have visited.
First time in the Philippines and I want to make it a trip to remember. Anyone have any good contacts? The "vampires" sounds wonderful! Prefer a girl who will travel to me.
Any info is much appreciated.
ID.
[QUOTE=Indrw;2168025]Long time lurker / monger. Info here seems to be more difficult to come by than the other places I have visited.
First time in the Philippines and I want to make it a trip to remember. Anyone have any good contacts? The "vampires" sounds wonderful! Prefer a girl who will travel to me.
Any info is much appreciated.
ID.[/QUOTE]Many mongers have contacts and use the boards etc. PM those mongers is best as there are rules about posting details.
Odd question, but hoping you can grant me at least one.
Are there any poker rooms up and running still in Cebu? I like playing during non-sex hours and Angeles City was great for this w / the Wild Aces club. I saw mixed reports online about casinos open / closed, whether they have cash games or not, etc.
TIA.
[QUOTE=UsaInEurope;2177938]Odd question, but hoping you can grant me at least one.
Are there any poker rooms up and running still in Cebu? I like playing during non-sex hours and Angeles City was great for this w / the Wild Aces club. I saw mixed reports online about casinos open / closed, whether they have cash games or not, etc.
TIA.[/QUOTE]Always check the Waterfront hotel as many Asians go there. Have PM you another source as won't mention it here.
[QUOTE=Pompetus;2178342]Please help me. Specifically where and what are the rules that you are referencing. I have looked in the posting guidelines but I must have overlooked something since I wasn't able to find any detailed information on this subject. I probably am overlooking the obvious. Thanks for helping me understand.[/QUOTE]Pomp,.
Rather than write dribble why not help the poster (the newbie with 2 FRs both questions) and answer his question, send him the details of Vampiress on the open forum? As am sure you have plenty of contact to share yes? So share with him please.
Now as to rules. They relate to posting details on the open forum if you need to know where these are please ask. I can't and never will do that as her contacts are not for the open forum but PM maybe (see below).
And please. Help him with the details of your contacts on the open forum post the numbers etc and see what happened but as you rarely FR much of interest or help anyone it is likely you can't help him either as if you could you would of rather than comment on my post.
I can share but he has no PM and has 2 FRs asking for help so he is a typical manager than many on the board would be cautious as could be LE so I am write IMHO to be cautious.
But please you share you contacts names picture and number here as you think rule don't apply to you LOL.
In fact a quick look at the PG says you don't have any to share so maybe this is a first LOL.
[QUOTE=UsaInEurope;2177938]Odd question, but hoping you can grant me at least one.
Are there any poker rooms up and running still in Cebu? I like playing during non-sex hours and Angeles City was great for this w / the Wild Aces club. I saw mixed reports online about casinos open / closed, whether they have cash games or not, etc.
TIA.[/QUOTE]No there are no poker room in any of the 2 Waterfront casinos in Cebu.
There Is a Private casino in Mactan that caters to Asians and require a passport for entry called the The Palace Casino but I'm not aware of any poker rooms or games there. Mainly Baccarat.
There used to be a private game running out of a bar in Manggo but that has since closed down.
With the NBA finals coming up. Is there a Sports Book in Cebu?
I had never been to Cebu, but heard plenty about it, so started a plan about 5 months out. I was going to do what some of the Viet vet flyboys called 'a bombing run. ' I got that from a country golfing trip when I came across a posse of ageing mongers in a large, regional town in NSW. "Fly in, drop some loads and fly out", quick as. Sketched a 7 to 10 day window in the work schedz and hit the online sites to pipeline.
All went well, and I was booked in to one of the starred hotels a coupla minutes walk from Ayala Mall. As Ferrett called it, a San Mig away, as he could drink a can of same on the walk door-2-door. Now being in to my 60's I ended up hooking an older gal online. Lina, 42 and pretty well groomed and built from what I could tell. We promoted to some skype time and I could see she was a pretty healthy package, smooth skin, educated, good English and we got increasingly horny in our convo. Near my departure date she was showing more and more cleavage and finally a couple shots of her not inconsiderable breasts got flashed. We were good to go.
Day 1. Got into my hotel and phoned her up. Got the instructions to her joint and away I went. She was in an apartment on de Veyra St and wanted me there at 12 sharp. Don't worry, I went there quick and horny. It was all a bit tense at first, she was nervy and I couldn't work her out. Divorcee? Cheating on hubby? But as soon as I touched her up a bit she came good and we had a fairly conservative missionary. She was not on the game. It was a bit of a shabby apartment but did have a balcony and I was mulling over having a stand up doggie outdoors so we could both enjoy the view, hehe. Anyway deed done and I was just about to go and she wanted me back tomorrow same time. Um, OK. No word of payment neither, so, OK. Just then door opens and a skinny young spinner comes in. Elise. I introduce myself and give her a card.
(Mongering tip. I always carry a card with my name and number, or pages from the hotel note pad with my name, number and room number on, to hand out as required.).
Elise is the niece, and is quite surprised to see a fat old white fella in Auntie's apartment, let alone thinking he was having a go at Auntie's snatch! Anyway, she slips the card in her bag without looking at it, and I go down the five floors in the lift on my merry way. Sure enough, an hour after I am back at base, texts from Elise. In the end we arrange for her to drop in after work at 9 pm. I am liking Cebu a lot right then, haha. 9 o'clock and we are straight into it, but clearly for pay. 3 k. OK, OK, now suck haha. I score brief BBBJ and then she is onto me for a cowgirl and goes at it until she cums. She calms down thereafter and I can have my way. She's out the door by 11. I am a bit stunned really, but not complaining.
Day 2 carbon copy – 12 to Lina's, conservative mish then home, rest, dinner, Elise at 9, cowgirl, shower fuck, doggie, 3 k, gone by 11, sleep long and hard.
Day 3. Same. I am thinking, I should really see some of Cebu. But if the snatch is hot, fuck it, right? Hehe.
Day 4. I am in my cab on the way to Lina's but thinking, geez, some variety would be a good thing. I am here in Cebu and there is pussy everywhere. Hmmm. Get to Lina's and she is on to me like a mad vixen, shouting and spitting, word is out I have been giving it to Elise. Whoops, I do the bolt, she is yelling like crazy and I jog down two flights of stairs to 3 d floor, jump the lift and run out and grab a cab. Tell the driver to wait at my hotel and I go in and check out. Back in the cab and I get him to take me out to Mactan, thinking I will get a quiet boutiquey type of hotel. We achieve that, and I am holed up in quite a nice and small hotel near the beach, with a nice enough pool and thinking "Jesus! Need a bit of chill time. " In fact, Elise txtd me about 10 times but I didn't answer. I was quite shaken and laid low for 24 hours.
Day 5. In hotel. Chilled poolside, had a couple of good meals, drank a load of San Mig and surfed DIA. Hotel is good, not many guests and staff very pleasant, not busy and good chats. Late that night, online hookup with Elenie, a 23 yr old roughie from Lapu Lapu. Agree to meet next day at a Jollibee.
Day 6. Meet up and bring her back to digs. Elenie is a strange sort of girl, pale and blonde. Half-caste maybe. Bit flabby, small tits. Pretty rough, you know how you can just tell? English not great, a bit loud. We have a couple of ordinary fucks in the afternoon. Pay 4 play of course. She keeps asking for stuff, a new phone, money. I tell her I will look after her money-wise when we finish up. She orders the most expensive meals from room service. You know the type. That night we go to a bar she knows. Rough as. Very local. She knows a couple of the girls there and alternately hits the beers and does semi-erotic dancing with her gal pals. Seeks me out whenever she wants a drink. Great! I am thinking, "Ditch this girl, buddy. " Anyway, way home in the taxi, she snoozes on my shoulder, and is basically passed out as I take her back to the room. She just crashes. What the fuck?
Day 7. I do achieve a modicum of satisfaction the next day when I wake her for a morning glory and jizz my entire cum load all over her face. She is non-plussed and just gets out of the bed and wipes it all off with a bath towel and jumps back in, and cuddles up right next to me. We have a kind of more pleasant, slower fuck later and I am feeling pretty happy. Later that day Elenie says she wants to go, but she will come back that night with her cousin, who is 13! I immediately get alarm bells ringing, thinking, set-up. Cops in here for the take, me in prison and so on. Elenie tells me she and her cousin are the only survivors of their family from a cyclone that ripped through central Phils, and they had to come to Cebu and live entirely on whoring. Fuck me! What kind of place is this? I spin some story that she should come back for lunch tomorrow, and give her 6 K and send her on her way. I spend that night in the hotel bar on the San Mig. There is absolutely no one else in the bar the whole night.
Day 8. Even though my flight is late that afternoon, I check out first thing and go and wait the whole day in the airport. I chucked my sim card that morning at hotel, so no known contact with any Cebu girls.
Boys, I will never go to Cebu again. The whole place is nothing better than a weird shit show!
Waz, I guess the Viet vet boys forgot to tell you that you need nerves of steel to do a carpet bomb run. Or was that to run like hell afterwards?
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2184920]Waz, I guess the Viet vet boys forgot to tell you that you need nerves of steel to do a carpet bomb run. Or was that to run like hell afterwards?[/QUOTE]You need the nerves and you need to run and run fast! Haha Cebu, never again!
Morning Gents!
First time in Cebu but been in ISG for quiet some time.
Arrived to Cebu late night around midnight and luckily before arrival made a friend via Wechat while I was working in Boracay. What do you know, she is around and needs some company. Check into residence and she pops over within hours and we have a decent late night snack at jbee before returning to the nest and having a romp. Had been a while since I actually played hence finished within minutes and due to flight was tired. She didn't mind but mentioned she would be flying back to Manila today Well there goes my freebie. Thanked her for the fun and gave her 1000 p tip for her trip back home and she was happy.
The ass and titts on this girl. Whew. And skinny too.
Anyways, that being said as I am knew to Cebu, if any pros from the area could give me guidance and tips I would be very thankful. Read on Mango Square so will roam tomorrow night the area to see personally what it's about. Perhaps alaya mall in evening to see if I can get a freebie or short romp. If anyone could give me also what the current rate update is would appreciate. Wouldn't want to inflate the pricing. Esp since I am Korean American. And yes I am aware there is the saying 3 inch 3 k 3 min blabla. That's not how I role.
Enjoy the pics.
[QUOTE=GenXBaer;2186436]Morning Gents!
First time in Cebu but been in ISG for quiet some time.
Arrived to Cebu late night around midnight and luckily before arrival made a friend via Wechat while I was working in Boracay. What do you know, she is around and needs some company. Check into residence and she pops over within hours and we have a decent late night snack at jbee before returning to the nest and having a romp. Had been a while since I actually played hence finished within minutes and due to flight was tired. She didn't mind but mentioned she would be flying back to Manila today Well there goes my freebie. Thanked her for the fun and gave her 1000 p tip for her trip back home and she was happy.
The ass and titts on this girl. Whew. And skinny too..[/QUOTE]Nice ass GXB.
Ayala is OK but watch out for the ladyboys and the regular walkers who I would not touch with a tungsten tipped condom. They tend to walk from Bos on the Terraces down the escalators to Seattle and up again passing TGIFs on the way. Will look, smile but are cheap (very cheap!
The LBs are obvious to me but not to some poor fellows who realise a tad later that he is holding hands with a chick with a dick through the mall LOL.
PM me for information as depends how long you stay in Cebu.
Waz. Sorry you had a bad time as Cebu is a favourite place and I really not that keen on Manila but all have different experience I suppose. Give it another ttry and PM me.
I have never done in all my years. Stick the pools as 'lees risky'. This was widely reported the other day and comes on the heels of the mess in Boracay (a cesspool). Maybe think twice before jumping into the ocean with your cutie.
Am sure this is the case all over the country sadly.
[URL]http://cebudailynews.inquirer.net/177400/averting-coastal-pollution[/URL]
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2186509]I have never done in all my years. Stick the pools as 'lees risky'. This was widely reported the other day and comes on the heels of the mess in Boracay (a cesspool). Maybe think twice before jumping into the ocean with your cutie.
Am sure this is the case all over the country sadly.
[URL]http://cebudailynews.inquirer.net/177400/averting-coastal-pollution[/URL][/QUOTE]Damn that's such a shame. Was swimming happily in the ocean for 3 days back in April at a Mactan resort. They don't say when the readings where taken. I'm fine now so I guess I was lucky.
[QUOTE=MangoKing;2186892]Damn that's such a shame. Was swimming happily in the ocean for 3 days back in April at a Mactan resort. They don't say when the readings where taken. I'm fine now so I guess I was lucky.[/QUOTE]I think it was over the last 6 months MK. There was a report in the CDN on Pangalo in January about the ocean etc (similar to Boracay issues) but the mayor sort of dismissed it (wouldn't you as tourism is key) bit the agencies who carry out the test are generally independent IMHO and I would tend t believe it.
I don't think swimming for a few days is a problem (maybe) but if you swallowed the water etc am sure that is more risky.
[URL]http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/960046/coliform-test-raise-red-flags-in-bohol-resort-town[/URL]
[URL]http://cebudailynews.inquirer.net/177473/emb-7-mactan-panglao-seas-drastically-improve-safety-still-question-notices-violation-sent-resorts-failing-water-waste-treatment-facilities[/URL]
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2186910]I think it was over the last 6 months MK. There was a report in the CDN on Pangalo in January about the ocean etc (similar to Boracay issues) but the mayor sort of dismissed it (wouldn't you as tourism is key) bit the agencies who carry out the test are generally independent IMHO and I would tend t believe it.
I don't think swimming for a few days is a problem (maybe) but if you swallowed the water etc am sure that is more risky.
[URL]http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/960046/coliform-test-raise-red-flags-in-bohol-resort-town[/URL]
[URL]http://cebudailynews.inquirer.net/177473/emb-7-mactan-panglao-seas-drastically-improve-safety-still-question-notices-violation-sent-resorts-failing-water-waste-treatment-facilities[/URL][/QUOTE]Well,
I completely agree with WR. Why? So landed a few days back and yesterday night I started getting rashes on my body. Not one to take chance went for a check and clinic did a skin test. Some kind of bacteria causing rashes that is highly from dirty water. Surprise. I was swimming in Boracay before coming here. Good news is treatable and today less then before. However walking around like a Dalmatian until it clears up. Supposed to clear away from sun but having to find a place to stay doesn't permit. Damn.
A late FR but better late then never.
Last Wednesday around 6 PM walked around Ayala to see and in hopes of finding myself a curvy FL. As old reports suggested, walked around BO coffee shop terrace side on the second floor for a good hour but found nothing. Couple of FL sitting in chairs in sets but none that really peaked my interest or had the curves with slim body I wanted. But even so, maybe saw only 4 sets of FL. Hence didn't waste time and when know to watch Han Solo to kill time until 1030 PM to hit up Mango Square.
First drop was Vikings. Environment is a 6/10 as it is bright lit and looks clean. Drinks ranged from 75 to 80 pesos and lady drinks max was 300 pesos. However, again no one that caught my eye. Waitress who was very friendly and accommodating offered me to have a line up done for me however I already had done a quick scope and knew it would just cause drama if I agreednd did not pick anyone. Took a sip and as surprisingly the place allows you to smoke in the seating areas while watching girls who were either too slim or pudgy in the wrong areas half ass a dance routine on stage. No cover charge FYI and barfine according to waitress can go up to 5 k but depends on the girl.
Next stop Planet X. A dark lit environment where the seating setup is done in cubicles unless you sit right in front of the main stage where all the girls were sitting and chit chatting away. One propect who seemed to have nice see cups but a bit of fat on the stomach, and one that was slim but with boobs that were big enough that made her look well endowed. Bought another drink for 80 pesos and enjoyed the scene until I was ready to move on. Smoking area is separate and you have to move from your table to a small cubicle area near the entrance. No cover charge and pricing of drinks same as Vikings. Barfine is set as 5 k.
Sisters was my last stop and the drinks was around 10 to 20 pesos higher then Vikings or Planet X. The room is smaller compare to the other two and seating setup is L shaped with no walls so you can see basically clearly the guy sitting next to you getting frisky or lap dance. No nudes of course but the girls here seemed to be having more fun and energized compared to the other bars. Sadly, no one was my type so walked out and returned to Planet X.
Came back and the waitress took me back to the same seat and after a few she pushed know the slim girl who had boobs that made her look like he had big boob's. Let's call her Tina. Got Tina a lady drink as that was the only way to converse and we got comfortable as she allows me to play with her titts under her bikini top when mamasan wasn't looking. A bit of over the clothes petting of the little guy, and she even got on top of me to give me a lap dance until mamasan walked by yelling and asking us to behave. 30 min went by and they were pushing me to get another drink for Tina so I endulged as was having a good time. Around 3 am the bar started closing and I asked what the barfine was and when she quoted 5 k I asked if she met customers outside of work. Very smoothly we exchanged numbers and agreed to meet after she was done other her shift. I left and about 20 min later got a text message from her saying her friend with her guy were going to get Korean food and I'd I wanted to join. Why not. Met up with the group and headed to a Korean restaurant and spent around 1200 pesos for a nice meal. The waitress who had served me at the bar was there and she just laughed at me saying I was naughty. But everything was hush hush. In the end, she came over and from 5 am to around 9 am was non stop fucking. Could see she really liked me from how wet her pussy was from the start when I started rubbing to get her engines started. She assured me she did not need any stimulation at all and just wanted my cock plunged into her dripping pussy. LOL. She was the one around 9 am asking if she could go as she had to return to feed her baby. Didn't ask for any money but I tipped her 1. 5 k and thanked her for the good time. Though fun, she wasn't a girl who wanted to give BJ, anal, or allow pics. Which is something I want to try during my time here LOL. Would call her back if I am desperately in need of some release. And can't find someone else.
FYI, be careful around mango. There are random "guides" who will keep walking with you and sayingthey will find you a girl for long time and say they mnow girls who are your type. Assuring 1. 5 to 2 k will be a 12 HR session with the girl and their commisin is only 300. They are not reliable as I walked with one for almost 30 min from one corner of the street to another looking at random girls.
[QUOTE=GenXBaer;2188963]FYI, be careful around mango. There are random "guides" who will keep walking with you and sayingthey will find you a girl for long time and say they mnow girls who are your type. Assuring 1. 5 to 2 k will be a 12 HR session with the girl and their commisin is only 300. They are not reliable as I walked with one for almost 30 min from one corner of the street to another looking at random girls.[/QUOTE]Nice FR GXB.
And the Mango 'guides' are pickpockets plus the kids who run around an be very good at lifting things so be forewarned.
Check PM emails GXB.
Hey guys,
Is there still some FL-action Junquera\ Sagianco at the basketball court, or round Colonstreet? I loved the sleaziness a few years ago. I would also looking for a skinny three-holes, if you know one please pm. Me.
I will post a bunch of dirty pics after my ten days in Cebu.
If you just want to meet to grab a beer is also ok for me. I'm in Cebu from 10th to 19th.
Cheerio!
[QUOTE=Amazon2323;2189219]Hey guys,
Is there still some FL-action Junquera\ Sagianco at the basketball court, or round Colonstreet? I loved the sleaziness a few years ago. I would also looking for a skinny three-holes, if you know one please pm. Me.
I will post a bunch of dirty pics after my ten days in Cebu.
If you just want to meet to grab a beer is also ok for me. I'm in Cebu from 10th to 19th.
Cheerio![/QUOTE]Always is but be careful as you may like the sleaze but it comes with risks IMHO and the opportunity to set up the foreigner.
For me tungsten tipped condoms multiple ones on the todger would not see me in that area. Colon is dangerous at times with some my favourites wary of going there at certain times of the day. Some have been robbed in broad daylight!
Please post as the only 3 FRs you have suggest maybe you have forgotten to do that.
Lots skinny ones and some v kinky ones also BTW.
More to cum. Should I post it here, or in the photo gallery?
[QUOTE=Amazon2323;2190618]More to cum. Should I post it here, or in the photo gallery?[/QUOTE]How about a FR? Cause pics without info and details eehhh.
[URL]http://cebudailynews.inquirer.net/184295/mcia-suspend-midnight-8-m-flights-september-give-way-15-day-runway-repair[/URL]
I did post this in General Reports as well but as Cebu am double dipping. Will be more delays because of this so check your schedules.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2201369][URL]http://cebudailynews.inquirer.net/184295/mcia-suspend-midnight-8-m-flights-september-give-way-15-day-runway-repair[/URL]
I did post this in General Reports as well but as Cebu am double dipping. Will be more delays because of this so check your schedules.[/QUOTE]WR,
Thanks for the update. I will be sure to keep this in mind for September. I am wondering why they keep using asphalt? If they had done it right with concrete to begin with!
DG8787.
Have posted in PG also but she is in Cebu I will mention it here with a photo Old favourite who is now living away from Cebu with her family and can't be as naughty as before but is back for 10 days and would to be very naughty for the next 10 days or so.
Loves anal nice lady great company and I can recommend her also. Look good in lingerie and things LOL and lovely backside LOL.
PM for details if you are there.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2205195]Have posted in PG also but she is in Cebu I will mention it here with a photo Old favourite who is now living away from Cebu with her family and can't be as naughty as before but is back for 10 days and would to be very naughty for the next 10 days or so.
Loves anal nice lady great company and I can recommend her also. Look good in lingerie and things LOL and lovely backside LOL.
PM for details if you are there.[/QUOTE]OMG, Roger! Thank you for the referral. "Very naughty" is an understatement.
I contacted her as you suggested and was able to get a little price concession. (Actually great bang for the buck) Had her over to my hotel for an overnight. She looks classy and has very good English. Started DFK right away. Her hands were all over me and soon little NG99 was in her mouth. That girl really loves to suck. Does the innocent eyes thing including while little NG99 is unloading in her mouth. No hesitation, just keeps going.
I told her when booking that I wanted anal so she prepped herself. No mess. Not too many pinays do that. She's really tight in the back door and I had to be gentle working it in. Anyway she coaxed two out of me before we slept. BBBJ in the morning followed by massage and one more conventional encounter before she left. This girl loves sex. She says she is up for MFF 3-somes; sorry I couldn't get one organized. I'm exhausted! Thanks again.
[QUOTE=NiceGuy99;2205363]OMG, Roger! Thank you for the referral. "Very naughty" is an understatement.
. This girl loves sex. She says she is up for MFF 3-somes; sorry I couldn't get one organized. I'm exhausted! Thanks again.[/QUOTE]Your welcome NG She is not as kinky as the Vampiress (sorry you not get to meet her) but is up there with her naughtiness and is also a nice person so when you treat them well it reaps rewards. So cheap charlies should not bother asking her.
Glad you had fun my friend.
A few snaps of the past two months in Cebu. Have a few more months left and still hunting for that right girl. Slim and short build with a night see or the pair. Who is willing to go 3 hole and freaky. Where is she? Haha.
Until then just got lucky in the clubs and even bikini bars where I wouldn't bar fine but got the chance to get comfortable with some of the girls and later they hopped over (had to tip in the end). Enjoy.
BTW spending some days in Cebu, maybe for my 10th time, I must say that online dating sites are the best option here.
Mango square seems dead, in clubs you must fight with high spending young Koreans and Japanese, and I'm not into barfines.
Online I had so many direct offers. All with an "up to you" price.
Get a LT threesome for 3 k, many st for 1. 5 k, semi pro and real first timers. Girls coming here from Toledo for 1. 5 k, or frtom other provinces too. Just have some chocolate ready for the real newbies, it raises the confidence of the shy ones.
It requires some work but they are not so hard to spot.
[QUOTE=NiceGuy99;2205363]OMG, Roger! Thank you for the referral. "Very naughty" is an understatement.
I contacted her as you suggested and was able to get a little price concession. [/QUOTE]But the photos are from 2 different girls.
Which one was the naughty one?
[QUOTE=WazWallaby;2184678]Boys, I will never go to Cebu again. The whole place is nothing better than a weird shit show![/QUOTE]I only read your report now. But why you feel disappointed? You got several fucks, some even for free, you did enjoy a drama. A normal situation in the Phils if you not play smart --and had some are&are at the beach.
Next time prepare yourself with contacts from Pinalove and use the discos. Not the bars. As back-up (you apparently didn't go to the discos.).
But just tell me: which hotel did you use on LapuLapu?
[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2210558]But the photos are from 2 different girls.
Which one was the naughty one?[/QUOTE]Same girl. Top one I took and bottom she sent to me before we met. I think she was a bit younger and lighter in the bottom one.
[QUOTE=NiceGuy99;2210674]Same girl. Top one I took and bottom she sent to me before we met. I think she was a bit younger and lighter in the bottom one.[/QUOTE]I would agree with that assessment NG having met her a few times and partied with her. I thought the same but had another look at other pictures I have of her (that I can't post as too much revealing things in the photos) and you are correct.
[QUOTE=OnTheRoad;2210481]BTW spending some days in Cebu, maybe for my 10th time, I must say that online dating sites are the best option here.
Mango square seems dead, in clubs you must fight with high spending young Koreans and Japanese, and I'm not into barfines.
Online I had so many direct offers. All with an "up to you" price.
Get a LT threesome for 3 k, many st for 1. 5 k, semi pro and real first timers. Girls coming here from Toledo for 1. 5 k, or frtom other provinces too. Just have some chocolate ready for the real newbies, it raises the confidence of the shy ones.
It requires some work but they are not so hard to spot.[/QUOTE]Yep, I am there next week, will try the wechat or tinder option Will report back.
[QUOTE=OnTheRoad;2210481]BTW spending some days in Cebu, maybe for my 10th time, I must say that online dating sites are the best option here.
[/QUOTE]Which, in your opinion, are the best dating sites?
[QUOTE=Python75;2213634]Which, in your opinion, are the best dating sites?[/QUOTE]What do you want?
Hard core hookers after hours? Tinder.
General, younger freelancers? PinaLove.
Employed or "good" girls to fuck on a second date? Cupid.
Obviously a gross simplification, but you get the idea.
Thank you Air Asia. A four hour delay out of Clark puts me into Cebu city in the middle of rush hour. What should have been a quick easy flight turns into an all-day ordeal.
I guess it could have been worse. I might have been at NAIA, which has had a very bad week or two. X Man.
On top of XMan's frustration this will likely cause more for the next 3 weeks. This is a real pain in the backside but is needed. At least they recognize the issues and try and fix swiftly.
Best check the local news and your airline to see if it is impacted.
[URL]http://cebudailynews.inquirer.net/191783/mcia-runway-closure-affect-800-flights-air-passengers-advised-adjust-flight-plans[/URL]
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2201369][URL]http://cebudailynews.inquirer.net/184295/mcia-suspend-midnight-8-m-flights-september-give-way-15-day-runway-repair[/URL]
I did post this in General Reports as well but as Cebu am double dipping. Will be more delays because of this so check your schedules.[/QUOTE]Thank you.
That's helpful for me to keep an eye on; as I'll be visiting Cebu soon.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2213643]What do you want?
Hard core hookers after hours? Tinder.
General, younger freelancers? PinaLove.
Employed or "good" girls to fuck on a second date? Cupid.
Obviously a gross simplification, but you get the idea.[/QUOTE]Still a pretty good description of who is on what sites. Lots of variation within a site, I have seen hard core hookers on SA and PL and "good" girls on Tinder or even WeChat.
WeChat is more hard core than Tinder but look out for lady-boys there. Tinder has a lot as well, other sites not so much.).
I've also used SA. It has higher class girls looking for longer term relationships with a healthy dose of sugar added. Generally a higher class of girls than the other sites. Not for someone just coming for 2 weeks but pretty good for someone looking for classy arrangements with educated women who know the score. The payment for the Daddies screens out the cheap charlies pretty quick so the girls have some expectations.
Hunt on a couple of them to keep your options open, you will quickly become pretty good at screening out those who are not what you are hunting for.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2232990]Still a pretty good description of who is on what sites. Lots of variation within a site, I have seen hard core hookers on SA and PL and "good" girls on Tinder or even WeChat.[/QUOTE]Excuse me, but what does "SA" stand for?
I understand that there are actually some countries in the world where airports have more than one runway, so that if one shuts down, the other can still be used, thus causing some delays but no cancellations Just a rumor mind you, but there may even be airports in the world that have 3 and even 4 runways.
GE.
[QUOTE=NamasteParis;2237878]Excuse me, but what does "SA" stand for?[/QUOTE]SA=[URL]seekingarrangement.com[/URL] It is the original sugar baby site.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2237899]SA=[URL]seekingarrangement.com[/URL] It is the original sugar baby site.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I subscribed but found only 2 chicks in the philippines fitting my criteria. Must be better for another country.
[QUOTE=NamasteParis;2238273]Thanks. I subscribed but found only 2 chicks in the philippines fitting my criteria. Must be better for another country.[/QUOTE]What is your criteria? I had very good luck there even snagging a 21 year old live in for almost 3 months.
I'm not on there now, getting very good returns from Tinder and PL for less cost.
Hi Aall,
Just wanted to confirm.
Currently is there a International Departure Tax; when you fly out.
I'll be flying back to Malaysia from Cebu.
As this'll be my first visit to Philippines.
It'd be good to know.
If there is a Tax; can you pay by Card?
Many Thanks in Advance.
[QUOTE=JackLad100;2240215]Hi Aall,
Just wanted to confirm.
Currently is there a International Departure Tax; when you fly out.
I'll be flying back to Malaysia from Cebu.
As this'll be my first visit to Philippines.
It'd be good to know.
If there is a Tax; can you pay by Card?
Many Thanks in Advance.[/QUOTE]I doubt can pay taxi by card, last 44 yrs I have paid only cash. Drivers rent taxi for 24 hrs, they pay taxi owner set fee for renting taxi = not employee = taxi fare goes to driver not to a business man, driver living on the edge all the time = no sophisticated card payments. No. 1. Rule when first visiting the phils, they ask (cause they already suspect / know) "is this your first time in Phils" , do not say yes, say no, "many times" if you say yes they will treat you like a sucker and quote ridiculous rip off prices. Point a to point be. Ask eg hotel receitpionist, how much taxi point a to point be. Do not ask taxi driver LOL, have an idea before you enter taxi.
I first entered Phils 44 yrs ago hundreds of trips then, got ripped off first 2/3 yrs, part of the fun.
After check in bags cebu ask weigh in person "is there a departure tax? Where is it located (not far from check in bags, same floor).
If a stranger Filipino approaches you on street wherever ignore him do not say one word, just turn around and walk away. Good Filipinos do not approach people in the street!
Once you know all the tricks (3/5 trips down the track) you can have a lot of cheap fun in the Phils. The flips can tell a newbie a mile off, and they can tell an experienced person (like me 44 yrs experience) very quickly. They try the newbie, they don't waste time on the experienced one (You in 3/5 trips time).
Malaysia is a cemetery, compared to the Philippines! Phils is the Disney Land of Sex, but beware, many foreigners in prison for 30 yrs and more (one guy I know is in for 99 yrs) usually cause [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord903][CodeWord903][/url] girl. Slow down, take it easy. It looks too easy, BUT there is a dark side to Phils (prison).
[QUOTE=JackLad100;2240215]Hi Aall,
Just wanted to confirm.
Currently is there a International Departure Tax; when you fly out.
I'll be flying back to Malaysia from Cebu.
As this'll be my first visit to Philippines.
It'd be good to know.
If there is a Tax; can you pay by Card?
Many Thanks in Advance.[/QUOTE]People love ash in the Philippines. Are you sure is not included as part of your ticket?
[QUOTE=JackLad100;2240215]Hi Aall,
Just wanted to confirm.
Currently is there a International Departure Tax; when you fly out.
I'll be flying back to Malaysia from Cebu.
As this'll be my first visit to Philippines.
It'd be good to know.
If there is a Tax; can you pay by Card?
Many Thanks in Advance.[/QUOTE]There has always been a departure tax. Some airlines has the tax added in the ticket price. Some do not. Last month I flew out of Cebu and was required to the tax. I paid in cash but did notice there was a separate line for credit card payment.
Firstly, Thanks to those who answered my other recent question.
Now; I was wondering if you can buy "proper" Viagra in a pharmacy in Cebu.
Without a prescription.
(rather than buying off the street; not being sure what's in the tab).
Also; any chance of any hassle if I take some Viagra with me; from Customs?
(without a prescription).
[QUOTE=JackLad100;2241724]Firstly, Thanks to those who answered my other recent question.
Now; I was wondering if you can buy "proper" Viagra in a pharmacy in Cebu.
Without a prescription.
(rather than buying off the street; not being sure what's in the tab).
Also; any chance of any hassle if I take some Viagra with me; from Customs?
(without a prescription).[/QUOTE]So far 7 FRs 7 questions and nothing from you Malaysia trip.
If you RTFF in the Philippine section there is plenty of advice on this and the see and L tablets and what you need to get, how you get, the prices and whether you an bring in. Suffice to say I was one of the posters in that discussions. Even places to buy the generic versions are noted.
Have a try as very easy and then the answers to your simple question is there.
In my experience from July 2018, Air tickets typically have the option to pay a Travel Tax on them. We had to leave the check in line, to have our tickets checked, and no Travel Tax needed to be paid. I guess it was already included in the Air Asia ticket.
It also appeared to be mostly targeted at locals, and not overseas visitors. I do believe this could be paid by card.
There was a Cash Payment required after Check In and before Immigration Exit and Security, when we were going to the gate for our flight to KL.
This was 700 pesos each, and could only be paid in cash, so I had to leave the airport and find an ATM. There was no facility to pay by card.
I believe this was some sort of Airport fee, note, if you paid it and Immigration would not let you through, your 700 pesos was not refunded.
I have a new ticket for my GF's upcoming flight, and it specifically mentions the Tourism Tax, and that it is pre-paid.
[QUOTE=JackLad100;2240215]Hi Aall,
Just wanted to confirm.
Currently is there a International Departure Tax; when you fly out.
I'll be flying back to Malaysia from Cebu.
As this'll be my first visit to Philippines.
It'd be good to know.
If there is a Tax; can you pay by Card?
Many Thanks in Advance.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PBtoCobra;2248540]In my experience from July 2018, Air tickets typically have the option to pay a Travel Tax on them. We had to leave the check in line, to have our tickets checked, and no Travel Tax needed to be paid. I guess it was already included in the Air Asia ticket.
I have a new ticket for my GF's upcoming flight, and it specifically mentions the Tourism Tax, and that it is pre-paid.[/QUOTE]Friends recently departed Mactan 5 days ago, Paid PHP850 tourism tax they said plus as some were pinay another HP1620 pinoy tax on top. Airline ticket did not include as I mentioned it should so they called China Eastern who confirmed no tax was included.
Depends airline but most should include already.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2249022]Friends recently departed Mactan 5 days ago, Paid PHP850 tourism tax they said plus as some were pinay another HP1620 pinoy tax on top. Airline ticket did not include as I mentioned it should so they called China Eastern who confirmed no tax was included.
Depends airline but most should include already.[/QUOTE]Also depends on visa status. I have SRRV and as long as I leave once a year no departure tax for me. Don't know about other visa types.
I'm planing my next 3 week trip in November 2019.
I will stay again in AC two weeks in March, but I don't want to stay there a second time for 3 weeks like now.
So I'm asking myself if I go to Pattaya (again) or if I try Cebu.
I liked the way WeChat and DIA worked for me in AC and when it would be something like that in Cebu I would like it.
I'm not into bars, I like the FL scene.
I like to have two fucks a day and I'm very curious if this is possible in Cebu?
I heard that Cebu is the Playground for Online Dating, but I'm very curious if I will get there what I'm searching for and if its a good place to stay there 3 weeks.
Please give me some advice, because I really don't know.
I like to try something new, but without my wanted fucks its a waste of time for me.
I would like to smash some Cebuana.
[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2249413]I'm planing my next 3 week trip in November 2019.
I will stay again in AC two weeks in March, but I don't want to stay there a second time for 3 weeks like now.
So I'm asking myself if I go to Pattaya (again) or if I try Cebu.
I heard that Cebu is the Playground for Online Dating, but I'm very curious if I will get there what I'm searching for and if its a good place to stay there 3 weeks.
Please give me some advice, because I really don't know.
I like to try something new, but without my wanted fucks its a waste of time for me.
I would like to smash some Cebuana.[/QUOTE]I can say from first hand experience that Cebu is great for online dating with many many girls to choose from.
Personally, I wouldn't spend 3 weeks there but would allow a few days in some of the nearby areas around the Visayas. I had a great time taking a girl to Moalboal for a few days for example.
I realize your no newbie but just for your info:
[QUOTE=Goferring;2114979]This is intended as a review of a virgin's introduction to PinaLove rather than a review of possible activities in Cebu.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Goferring;2153551]I've included this report in the Chat Rooms forum as it describes how I bounced between the various apps in Cebu and the results I achieved. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2249413]I'm planing my next 3 week trip in November 2019.
I will stay again in AC two weeks in March, but I don't want to stay there a second time for 3 weeks like now.
So I'm asking myself if I go to Pattaya (again) or if I try Cebu.
I liked the way WeChat and DIA worked for me in AC and when it would be something like that in Cebu I would like it.
I'm not into bars, I like the FL scene.
I like to have two fucks a day and I'm very curious if this is possible in Cebu?
I heard that Cebu is the Playground for Online Dating, but I'm very curious if I will get there what I'm searching for and if its a good place to stay there 3 weeks.
Please give me some advice, because I really don't know.
I like to try something new, but without my wanted fucks its a waste of time for me.
I would like to smash some Cebuana.[/QUOTE]I love Cebu way more than AC and Manila but we all vary in taste and needs. Cebu is OK if you have time but use the date site a week before. I can happily spend weeks there others can't but then some spend weeks waxing lyrical about AC LOL.
Contacts help also so asking can help you as well as no need to wonder if they turn up, or on time etc.
Also depends where you stay as like in Manila it can take time from outside the city to reach you so that needs to be thought about also.
[QUOTE=JackLad100;2240215]Hi Aall,
Just wanted to confirm.
Currently is there a International Departure Tax; when you fly out.
I'll be flying back to Malaysia from Cebu.
As this'll be my first visit to Philippines.
It'd be good to know.
If there is a Tax; can you pay by Card?
Many Thanks in Advance.[/QUOTE]Hahah.
Yes after being in Cebu for the first time.
I can give an accurate answer to my my own question.
Yes; All Foreign Visitors have to pay 850 P.
"Terminal Tax"; the receipt of which is attached to your boarding pass.
So Immigration can confirm you've paid it.
Yes; it can be paid by Cash or Credit Card.
Looks like I'm set for a return trip to Cebu. I've been there twice and Davao several times. The timing is poor, I know, that close to Christmas. Traffic and more reasons for the girls to flake out on you. This opening came up on short notice, so I'm grabbing it. It's been more than a little rushed.
It's been a few years and based on the forum, it seems like things have changed or continued further on the same path. Shop girls and Bo's didn't really work for me even back then. Robinson's was dead the couple of time s I visited. Never did the bars, although I did meet a mama-san outside Mango Square who provided a some backup talent.
I skipped DIA since they seem to be cracking down. I went with Pina Love and Filipino Cupid. The candidates seem a lot better on PL, so I haven't spent any time at all on FC. In general, I don't go for 18 - 22 yo's. I might include one or two candidates as a wildcard.
The number of message I get goes way up after 2 PM Cebu time. I wave off the ones who aren't local. If their profile says serious relationship, I tell them right away that I'm not interested in that. A fair number say that's okay. They may be hoping for a LTR, but I'm being honest. I think some put that in because friends and family may see it. Some of them are pretty obviously pro or semi pro based on the pictures and the subtle conversational hints,"you like suck?
I don't like messaging apps that link to Facebook or my real life cell phone. I won't have my burner phone until I get to the mall. That has definitely limited my ability to chat and test the waters. My prioritization won't be as solid and it's going to take longer to ramp up.
BTW, I'm not quite the newbie that I look like. Just careless with passwords. I have probably 100 posts under South by SW and South by SW 2. Now I'm the third generation of myself. My posts were in Japan, PI, Indonesia. I tend to go dark after a trip. Shut down my dating accounts, change email, messenger, etc. Over time I lose track of my passwords.
I'm staying close to the Ayala mall. If anyone is around let me know. First round is on me.
SbySW.
[QUOTE=SouthBySw3;2260795]
I don't like messaging apps that link to Facebook or my real life cell phone. I won't have my burner phone until I get to the mall. That has definitely limited my ability to chat and test the waters. My prioritization won't be as solid and it's going to take longer to ramp up.
.[/QUOTE]Just buy a cheap Android Smartphone in your home country. Put in a prepaid sim to have a number.
Then install watsapp and FB-messenger, eventual also Viber. Thats all you need to chat from your homecountry with the girls from Pinalove (add the app) or other dating boards. You also can load the app for DIA. If your profile on DIA says you are in Cebu, you will soon get flooded with "Hi's".
On that phone, only store the numbers for the dating girls. No other private numbers. And then you can also set up a total fake FB account. It helps to verify girls data.
Once in the Phils, change the sim to a Globe or Smart prepaid. And for 99 Peso you get 7 days unli text and enough acess to internet to keep on chatting.
Text is still the way to go once you landed!
That's a great idea Amadeuss. Sadly I don't have enough time to get the benefit before this trip.
[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2261034]Just buy a cheap Android Smartphone in your home country. Put in a prepaid sim to have a number.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SouthBySw3;2261148]That's a great idea Amadeuss. Sadly I don't have enough time to get the benefit before this trip.[/QUOTE]Buy one here and get local sim, That way you can install Viber and Whatsapp with only the local number.
Once active the account will still work fine for messages coming from here to home.
I don't think I've ever paid a separate tax. I've paid maybe an airport fee at some smaller airports where the fee hasn't been integrated into the ticket prices yet perhaps. But I've never paid 850 to depart the philippines. Is this something recently new?
[QUOTE=JackLad100;2249840]Hahah.
Yes after being in Cebu for the first time.
I can give an accurate answer to my my own question.
Yes; All Foreign Visitors have to pay 850 P.
"Terminal Tax"; the receipt of which is attached to your boarding pass.
So Immigration can confirm you've paid it.
Yes; it can be paid by Cash or Credit Card.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2261505]Buy one here and get local sim, That way you can install Viber and Whatsapp with only the local number.
Once active the account will still work fine for messages coming from here to home.[/QUOTE]Thanks KG. I'll definitely head to Ayala first thing to get a phone and sim. I meant I don't have time to get one before I leave.
My flight was delayed by 12 hours. Which screwed up my connections. Now I'm arriving too late for my cutie to meet me at the airport.
SbySW.
I remember doing that years ago in either Cebu or Davao. Or both. It was PHP550 IIRC. Pesos only and certainly no credit card.
SbySW.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2262112]I don't think I've ever paid a separate tax. I've paid maybe an airport fee at some smaller airports where the fee hasn't been integrated into the ticket prices yet perhaps. But I've never paid 850 to depart the philippines. Is this something recently new?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2262112]I don't think I've ever paid a separate tax. I've paid maybe an airport fee at some smaller airports where the fee hasn't been integrated into the ticket prices yet perhaps. But I've never paid 850 to depart the philippines. Is this something recently new?[/QUOTE]The international departure tax has always been there. Yours has always been in the ticket price.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2262161]The international departure tax has always been there. Yours has always been in the ticket price.[/QUOTE]As DG says it is always there but some airline don't include it on the departure tax (example China Eastern). You have to pay either via the ticket or in cash.
As expected Cebu Pacific was an hour late arriving into Cebu so it was a very late checkin to AirBnB's Trillium Residences. Cheap but one block further away from Ayala than the Quest and the Mandarin.
I wanted a sure thing so before leaving Duma, I contacted some numbers I had from a previous visit:
[QUOTE=Goferring;2153551]Day 1 in Cebu. Still in Davao, I messaged a contact kindly provided by another Subscriber. I let her know that I was on my way and asked was she ok to meet that night. She replied that all was good and she would be able to head my way at 11 pm and stay the night. ......At 10:59 pm I received a message saying that she was on her way and she suggested coming straight to the room. Obviously, I was fine with that. A couple of minutes later she arrived. Holy Shit!! I received some profile pics earlier but they were not fair warning. In the flesh, she was incredible: max 5'0", maybe 75 lb and stacked with DDs. She was standing there in leggings and a sports bra, dripping with sweat, having come straight from 4 hours of dance rehearsals. I was already harder than Chinese Calculus.
........
Day7. That morning was spent generally surfing and chatting online and I soon had a FilCupid girl on the way to meet up at Bo' s coffee in Ayala. A quiet personality wrapped in a nice tall body appeared. She was about 5'4" and 95 lb. While she wasn't overly muscular, she had the toned physique of someone who certainly worked out. She later said she was a brown belt in both Karate and Tai Kwan Do which I didn't doubt. Unwrapped, back in the room, her body showed no signs of one kid and she exhibited stamina that well and truly out lasted anyone to date. Any position was available and held with ease and she would climb on top and grind away for endless sessions. Multiple sessions continued all afternoon and she was sent home with 2 k taxi money. I was totally exhausted. Big Head said "fuck her, dump her and move on". Little Head said "there could be three more days of that if she came with us to Moalboal". I'll let you guess who won and the remainder of the story. . .[/QUOTE]Ms. Coyote had experienced Venezuelan inflation levels and wanted crazy numbers. Negotiations continue but she may be lost to the dark side.
Ms Karate answered straight back saying "Sure, just message when you have checked in. " She certainly rocked my world last time so I was looking forward to meeting up again. After checkin and a quick shower, we agreed to meet at Social in Ayala. Sure enough, she was there with a cute friend looking hot as ever. Threesomes start flashing through my mind but I thought it best to leave that for later. I could tell her body was still as tight as a drum and she was showing just enough cleavage to keep my eyes wandering.
A light meal, a couple of drinks and we are back to the condo. The girlfriend makes polite conversation and then Grabs away. I go off for a freshen up (outside is as humid as hell), come back and. . . She's comatose asleep on the lounge. I wake her up and suggest sleeping in the bed but she insists she will sleep there for a little then join me later. What!! You have to be kidding!! I stay calm, just. . . . wake her up again after 30 minutes with the same suggestion. "Lateeerrrrr". Fuck!! It's looking like another bubbly fun chick has turned into a Princess Hooker.
Fuck!! I go to bed, she's still asleep on the lounge. Fuck!!
At 4 am I'm woken by the sound of her rising. I'm waiting for the excuse that she needs to go home to brush her cat's teeth. But, no!! She slides into bed with "Baby, I'm soooo sorry. I was so tired after work. " She then proceeds to fuck me senseless until mid morning. I'm reminded of the stamina, that smoking hot body and those glorious tits within easy reach.
Welcome to Cebu.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2269410]
At 4 am I'm woken by the sound of her rising. I'm waiting for the excuse that she needs to go home to brush her cat's teeth. But, no!! She slides into bed with "Baby, I'm soooo sorry. I was so tired after work. " She then proceeds to fuck me senseless until mid morning. I'm reminded of the stamina, that smoking hot body and those glorious tits within easy reach.
Welcome to Cebu.[/QUOTE]Keep the reports coming Gof.
I will read them even if nobody else does.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2269410]As expected Cebu Pacific was an hour late arriving into Cebu so it was a very late checkin to AirBnB's Trillium Residences. Cheap but one block further away from Ayala than the Quest and the Mandarin.
Welcome to Cebu.[/QUOTE]Always catch the morning flights if you can Goffer as mid afternoon everything is screwed up airplane wise with planes well out of synch. I learnt the hard way and vowed never again.
Is she still sleeping? LOL and did therefore have to love yourself LOL.
So Ms Karate left mid morning and I just relaxed in bed. I spent up until early afternoon scanning through the chatrooms and Tinder and sorting the good opportunities from "I'm actually 18 hours away". Got lots of good numbers. A few hard core, by the hour, hookers and some who were more than happy just to drop around for some fun. Surprisingly, Tinder threw up some good options too.
I had my moment of terror:
[QUOTE=Goferring;2269651]I was vid-calling Mrs G at a time when I was alone....[/QUOTE]Seemed to get things sort of under control back home and then went out to dinner with the girls. Back in the room Ms Karate was highly apologetic and made up for her sins the best way she knew how. It's been ages since I've had a session that literally lasted all night so it was great to cover every square inch of the condo and even put on a show for the passing traffic and the neighbors on the balcony!
By early morning I was asleep, exhausted. As usual, she left mid morning and I made a call back home to test the waters. Not too bad: a few frosty remarks but ended with arguing over the broken lawn mower being my fault which I took as a very mundane and positive sign. 👍 😁.
Midday continued with more time online. All were happy to drop around now but I just got there number and put them off for another day. The whole vid-chat episode was still spinning around in my head so I didn't feel like multiple session throughout the day.
I was given the numbers of two girls that were recommended to be great fun and up for pretty much everything. One was a 19 yo spinner and the other was a 24 yo airline stewardess with a wild side. I intended to take Ms K out clubbing later so I made arrangements for Ms 19 to ferry across the following day and Ms Stewardess the night after.
By the time Ms K returned I was dog tired and not in the mood to hit the discos. We called it quits and I actually fell asleep, only waking up later for a relaxing midnight session. A couple more play sessions in the morning and she finished up with a very memorable BBBJ CIM.
Ok, so I made contact with Ms 19 as referred by another member. Yesterday, we agreed that I would send her the fare and she would ferry / van in from San Carlos. Note I was happy to do this based on the recommendation of a trusted member. Normally I would never send cash to an unknown girl. She confirmed that ferries departed pretty much every hour but were quite full.
On the day of departure, the 5 pm ferry was full so she left an hour late which was no concern. During this whole process she was sending numerous messages and photos to show that she was actually buying tickets and getting on board so I wasn't at all concerned that my money had disappeared. She was new to the big city, got lost at the cebu bus terminal but finally made it to my condo shortly before 11 pm.
She was an absolute tiny thing, green as grass but keen to try to please. What she lacked in experience, she made up for in taking direction and putting in an honest effort. Only full penetration anal was aborted as she was just too small. I'm sure with conditioning she would be good to go. She was so tight that it was easy to have several sessions to completion. A rarety for me after weeks at bat every day. She was happy to stay until the 2 pm return ferry. There was certainly no clock watching.
She is broke and actively looking for customers who are seeking a fresh newbie who they are happy to train and provide guidance.
Enjoy, G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2270783]Ok, so I made contact with Ms 19 as referred by another member. Yesterday, we agreed that I would send her the fare and she would ferry / van in from San Carlos. Note I was happy to do this based on the recommendation of a trusted member. Normally I would never send cash to an unknown girl. She confirmed that ferries departed pretty much every hour but were quite full.
On the day of departure, the 5 pm ferry was full so she left an hour late which was no concern. During this whole process she was sending numerous messages and photos to show that she was actually buying tickets and getting on board so I wasn't at all concerned that my money had disappeared. She was new to the big city, got lost at the cebu bus terminal but finally made it to my condo shortly before 11 pm.
She was an absolute tiny thing, green as grass but keen to try to please. What she lacked in experience, she made up for in taking direction and putting in an honest effort. Only full penetration anal was aborted as she was just too small. I'm sure with conditioning she would be good to go. She was so tight that it was easy to have several sessions to completion. A rarety for me after weeks at bat every day. She was happy to stay until the 2 pm return ferry. There was certainly no clock watching.
She is broke and actively looking for customers who are seeking a fresh newbie who they are happy to train and provide guidance.
Enjoy, G.[/QUOTE]Damages to the pocket sir?
[QUOTE=WiseHustler;2270839]Damages to the pocket sir?[/QUOTE]2000 p in planes, trains and automobiles.
3000 p for her.
Expensive exercise compared to a local hookup but it was something different and YOLO. 😁.
After nearly 4 weeks at bat, I collapsed in the room and did nothing all day. I fucked no one.
It was glorious. 👍.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2271092]After nearly 4 weeks at bat, I collapsed in the room and did nothing all day. I fucked no one.
It was glorious. 👍.[/QUOTE]I know the feeling. Get a 2 hour massage at YOLO massage. They do hotel service too for a slightly higher fee.
I just thought I'd mention.
I've noticed about 10 girls freelancers on the street between these 2 hotels.
They seem to get there after about 10.30 pm.
They're looking for customers.
Unfortunately I've been in a taxi returning back to Quest after a night out; with a girl.
So I can't say any more.
But if you're staying at either of these hotels; very convenient.
[QUOTE=JackLad100;2271256]I just thought I'd mention.
I've noticed about 10 girls freelancers on the street between these 2 hotels.
They seem to get there after about 10.30 pm.
They're looking for customers.
Unfortunately I've been in a taxi returning back to Quest after a night out; with a girl.
So I can't say any more.
But if you're staying at either of these hotels; very convenient.[/QUOTE]How have you found staying at the Quest?
I note that there is now a fence along Reyes Ave separating the Quest from Ayala. It was super convenience, though death defying, to simply walk across the road. It's now a reasonably long walk up to the lights or down to the underpass.
The ready access to Ayala was its main selling point in my book.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2271511]How have you found staying at the Quest?
I note that there is now a fence along Reyes Ave separating the Quest from Ayala. It was super convenience, though death defying, to simply walk across the road. It's now a reasonably long walk up to the lights or down to the underpass.
The ready access to Ayala was its main selling point in my book.[/QUOTE]Quest is a great hotel.
Great location, facilities; IMHO; worth the money.
Easy to get to Ayala; walk to the underpass and then go thru McDonalds.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2271153]I know the feeling. Get a 2 hour massage at YOLO massage. They do hotel service too for a slightly higher fee.[/QUOTE]Just wondering where YOLO massage is?
After my day off, I pretty much stayed to the same schedule. Ms K would drop around in the mid afternoon to early evening and stay until mid morning. I like this set up as it gives us a great nightly session and I'm particularly fond of a breakfast treat in the morning. It also gave me the day to myself, without having to entertain her, or I could grab a filler. I did that a couple of times (see the Photo Gallery) and also had a platonic meet up with a PL girl. Cute but absolutely no chemistry so I didn't progress.
I'm pretty much spent now and blowing smoke rings. However, the plan is for Ms K to stay all today and tonight and then fly to Manila tomorrow.
All up it was a great stay. I think March / April was a better time of the year to come weather wise but there has been no shortage of opportunities and online and past conquests have provided handsomely.
Enjoy, G.
[QUOTE=JackLad100;2271960]Just wondering where YOLO massage is?[/QUOTE]Wide frontage massage place about 2 blocks south of the Quest. If you get to the laundries, you have gone too far.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2271511]How have you found staying at the Quest?
I note that there is now a fence along Reyes Ave separating the Quest from Ayala. It was super convenience, though death defying, to simply walk across the road. It's now a reasonably long walk up to the lights or down to the underpass.
The ready access to Ayala was its main selling point in my book.[/QUOTE]Quest is good if the price inc Breakfast is right.
Mandarin is much more spartan with no carpet in rooms.
Harolds IMHO is the best but the walk to Ayala can be sweaty in the heat of day.
BW LEX has big but dated rooms and taxi to Ayala can be tough. THe walk would be horrendous with all that Jeepney smoke.
PC out.
I know already that being in a hotel out on the island is a very long way from Mango area. So what might I find? Where might I look? There are seaport terminals so sailors must find something! Thanks!
[QUOTE=MrMore;2276988]I know already that being in a hotel out on the island is a very long way from Mango area. So what might I find? Where might I look? There are seaport terminals so sailors must find something! Thanks![/QUOTE]Plenty hotels there depends on budget. Mactan to Cebu is messy and I would not bother to do it less you have to. Plenty girl in Mactan so search for that or Lapu Lapu. If you want to play Mango stay Ayala or Mango not MActan IMHO. I have driven from Ayala (Luzon Ave) to Crimson Resort on a Friday afternoon. 2 hours later I got there! The way back was faster as late at night. Same for Shangri La.
Best stick to one area and party as you can spend hours stuck in traffic or the girl can.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2270783]Ok, so I made contact with Ms 19 as referred by another member. Yesterday, we agreed that I would send her the fare and she would ferry / van in from San Carlos. Note I was happy to do this based on the recommendation of a trusted member. Normally I would never send cash to an unknown girl. She confirmed that ferries departed pretty much every hour but were quite full.
On the day of departure, the 5 pm ferry was full so she left an hour late which was no concern. During this whole process she was sending numerous messages and photos to show that she was actually buying tickets and getting on board so I wasn't at all concerned that my money had disappeared. She was new to the big city, got lost at the cebu bus terminal but finally made it to my condo shortly before 11 pm..[/QUOTE]Hey Goferring,
I'm new to this site and not familiar with all of the rule, I will probably get a membership here a little closer to my trip. I'm visiting the Philippines closer to summer time and this girl sounds like someone I'd want to connect with.
[QUOTE=GatorGator;2280876]Hey Goferring,
I'm new to this site and not familiar with all of the rule, I will probably get a membership here a little closer to my trip. I'm visiting the Philippines closer to summer time and this girl sounds like someone I'd want to connect with.[/QUOTE]Hey Goferring,
Me too! I am an old member.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2280920]Hey Goferring,
Me too! I am an old member.[/QUOTE]Gator, no problems but you can't receive PMs (messages) until you have a subscription and I can't post contact details in the open forum.
DG and Gator.
She is very unsophisticated so does not plan ahead for next week or month. No offence intended but it's best to make contact when you are physically in cebu, then she can discuss what to do tomorrow.
Send me a PM when you are in Cebu and I'm sure we can work something out.
Cheers, G.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2280920]Hey Goferring,
Me too! I am an old member.[/QUOTE]DG you member is old also LOL Next in Cebu PM me my friend this is the type you like I know.
I made a date with a 26 year old from DIA. Her picture was Wow. I made the mistake during chatting and texting of over promising a BF GF experience and she is looking for serious so I was playing into what she wanted. She came to my hotel in the morning in mandaue city and unfortunately was about 15 kgs heavier than her pics but still very attractive. After talking a bit and slowly getting her clothes off be see she was shy she gave me a very good BJ and was a wild woman in bed, no condom cip. I have had vasectomy so no preg worries although she was concerned but not enough to insist on condom. After sex we had lunch in hotel I slipped her 1200 php and I told her she could not stay any longer. I had a 6 pm date with another girl lined up but of course did not tell her that, Just told her she had to leave be see I was tired. Well, she took the news very badly be see she was planning to sleep in the hotel with me. She was honestly distraught saying she had no place to stay be see she had a run in at cousins house that morning with landlord. So I broke down and gave her 1000 more, that did not make everything Ok but helped some I guess, she took it and said thanks. At least I felt less of a heel. She hung around the room for 2 more hours before I finally crow-bared her out of there. Moral of the story for me is to not over sell a serious relationship when I had no intention of keeping her. I am not sure how to walk the line between hiring a girl knowing upfront it's a business deal and finding a nice dating site girl but not insulting her by offering money up front but at the same time making sure she knows its just for fun. Guess I will have to work on that.
[QUOTE=ForkTruck;2282304]I made a date with a 26 year old from DIA. Her picture was Wow. I made the mistake during chatting and texting of over promising a BF GF experience and she is looking for serious so I was playing into what she wanted. She came to my hotel in the morning in mandaue city and unfortunately was about 15 kgs heavier than her pics but still very attractive. After talking a bit and slowly getting her clothes off be see she was shy she gave me a very good BJ and was a wild woman in bed, no condom cip. I have had vasectomy so no preg worries although she was concerned but not enough to insist on condom. After sex we had lunch in hotel I slipped her 1200 php and I told her she could not stay any longer. I had a 6 pm date with another girl lined up but of course did not tell her that, Just told her she had to leave be see I was tired. Well, she took the news very badly be see she was planning to sleep in the hotel with me. She was honestly distraught saying she had no place to stay be see she had a run in at cousins house that morning with landlord. So I broke down and gave her 1000 more, that did not make everything Ok but helped some I guess, she took it and said thanks. At least I felt less of a heel. She hung around the room for 2 more hours before I finally crow-bared her out of there. Moral of the story for me is to not over sell a serious relationship when I had no intention of keeping her. I am not sure how to walk the line between hiring a girl knowing upfront it's a business deal and finding a nice dating site girl but not insulting her by offering money up front but at the same time making sure she knows its just for fun. Guess I will have to work on that.[/QUOTE]Very simple line to say upfront. "I am a butterfly".
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2282308]Very simple line to say upfront. "I am a butterfly".[/QUOTE]What is a butterfly? Flying from flower to flower I guess. I do like a variety of flowers.
[QUOTE=ForkTruck;2282310]What is a butterfly? Flying from flower to flower I guess. I do like a variety of flowers.[/QUOTE]Yes sir. Pinays understand that.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2282308]Very simple line to say upfront. "I am a butterfly".[/QUOTE]I'd agree with getting everything on the table early. It's surprising how little a difference it makes and for those that it will affect, you will find out before investing any time, money etc.
Some times you don't have to say anything eg wearing a wedding ring makes things pretty clear.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2282308]Very simple line to say upfront. "I am a butterfly".[/QUOTE]Sure, always be crystal clear on what you want and what you don't want, fo rme I say I have been married long time, divorced now and don't plan at all to marry again, simply, some says bye, mots says ok, then its clear that its just for a moment.
Now you can tell if th emoment is 1 HR or if its one night or more, just be clear, most will accept.
I never speak about money, usually there are girls not going very often with foreigners, or I think so, just let some money at the end and always ok. Up to now. And I must agree that my exp in Phil is limited up to now, but its how I will continue to proceed. I can see that many of these girls looking to marry a foreigner, are also very open to have some time spent with one, fo rmoney may be, but more for good time, not sure they can easily have sex in other ways so they like and when they start this way. They are very good at it, sex being their goal more than money.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2282336]I'd agree with getting everything on the table early. It's surprising how little a difference it makes and for those that it will affect, you will find out before investing any time, money etc.
Some times you don't have to say anything eg wearing a wedding ring makes things pretty clear.[/QUOTE]To update, my 6 pm showed up at 8:30, yes she told me ahead of time so it was OK. Great sex over 3 hours for 200 php cab fare. I told her upfront that I was checking out of my room in the morning so all was cool at the departure.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2282311]Yes sir. Pinays understand that.[/QUOTE]All girls know in their heart most foreigners are butterflies with money as being the motivation. I do not believe in not compensating girls for their service with a cab fare. They may not come out and say so but they need money. Definitely they are into having a good time in association with money compensation.
But in Cebu I have met many girls who say their friend, aunt, cousin are married to a foreigner. But { marriage) is a relative word. It is very much possible the (husbands) visit them once in a while and kind of support the girl. On the girls mind she is married. I double dated a previous GF from Leyte with her friend and a foreigner I would not name. Initially introduced as her husband. But the guy admitted to me that he is just a casual visitor when he can. Support? He said yes sometimes he sends money when he can. My girl said to me later that this girl has a local BF.
Moral is unless you live in Philippines with the girl it is impossible to say she is devoted to you. Culture is there is always a party in the barangay for one reason or another. Everybody pitches in for food and drinks. No restrictions on girls and boys mingling and doing whatever. This is how most girls loose their virginity at the house because everybody is outside. Unlike in USA they have no money for the motel or back seat of the car.
I admit Philippine girls more so than any other country make you feel special and good enough to fall in love. But what they say and what they do are two different things.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2282413]On the girls mind she is married. I double dated a previous GF from Leyte with her friend and a foreigner I would not name. Initially introduced as her husband. But the guy admitted to me that he is just a casual visitor when he can. Support? He said yes sometimes he sends money when he can. My girl said to me later that this girl has a local BF.
Moral is unless you live in Philippines with the girl it is impossible to say she is devoted to you. C.[/QUOTE]Many I know married to pinays living ion the country sort of know the husband has a wandering eye and / or girls will at least look at the man (some being sisters, cousins etc). Not uncommon IMHO. Issue whether wife stays devoted is another matter as that can be seen as working both ways. Foreign husbands could be using Sogos to see other women so she can play away also.
Some on the the hand stick very closely to their man like a limpet as they known they will wander or to scare off potential younger girls who may want the moneypot.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2282500]Some on the the hand stick very closely to their man like a limpet as they known they will wander or to scare off potential younger girls who may want the moneypot.[/QUOTE]One of the first questions a married monger will get is if his wife is pina. The girls are fine with fucking married men but do not want a psycho wife suddenly appearing wanting vengeance.
Interestingly, it's never the guys fault for rooting around. That's taken for granted. It's always the young hussy's fault. 😁.
My experience about Cebu:
I arrived in the evening from boracay on sat evening. On Pinalove I had arranged for a gal for a date. Explicitly mentioned to her about meeting fir a date and then being comfortable at my apartment. Gal showed up and joined me for shopping. Post which I cooked dinner for her. But she wasn't showing any interest. Post dinner she said she's not into fun with foreign guys but just companionship and said she's in her chumming cycle now. Bummer I feel in for a non pro.
For back up I had 2 other women lined up. One who was recommended by a senior member. Both gals don't respond or show up. I went to tinder which gave no responses. Only acceptance we're lady boys. Frustrated I called a masseuse I had connected on DIA for in room service. She did give a B2B massage but without sex. Good attitude, but wouldn't repeat.
Morning, one of the gals whom I had contacted responded. I was suppose to leave for Bohol, but called her in morning. She was nice and no discussion about money. Spent good 1.5 hours and at the end I offered her 2000 peso which she readily accepted. I liked her attitude and no pressure to look at the watch which was a first thing for me. Super BJ skills and every thing on plate. She was a semi pro- doing it for the additional money.
My learning in the entire experience was to plan see and the. Best is to find a non pro and make the most of time at hand.
Hopefully will have another experience on Thursday, my last day in Cebu.
[QUOTE=ForkTruck;2282304] I had a 6 pm date with another girl lined up but of course did not tell her that, Just told her she had to leave be see I was tired. Well, she took the news very badly be see she was planning to sleep in the hotel with me. She was honestly distraught saying she had no place to stay be see she had a run in at cousins house that morning with landlord. [/QUOTE]This is a common problem that we all face. The girls are notoriously unreliable which makes us need to double book for our variety needs and our fear of missing out on the next better girl. It's not clear in your story if your 6 pm was a known repeat performer.
As I'm reading your story I think I have had similar. I have done both, burned off the 6 pm date and also burned off the one in the room. These days if the girl I am with is doing OK and has her heart in it, then I let her stay and burn off the unknown one. As they say, A bird in the hand.
Happy days.
BD.
After arriving in the late afternoon I took a taxi to my hotel and was already browsing various dating sites on the way. Compared to Manila traffic was okay and I arrived at the hotel before 6 pm and went to Ayala for some dinner. Hitting up the girls seems a little like a grind to me.
Meanwhile I arranged to meet with Ms J, 23 who visited me later in the hotel. I had met her on PL and she was looking very cute on her pictures and maybe even a bit better in persona. However she had some baby damage, which was obviously not apparent on her pictures.
Service was good but nothing extraordinary. Probably won't repeat, but we will see. I sent her home to sleep after a long flight.
After the long flight I still had some issues with sleep, but after breakfast went to the pool and looked at my options for today. I finally settled on Ms Ca a 20 year old spinner. Though she was nearly one hour late and I was starting to look into a backup when she finally arrived.
Ms Ca was very cute and after realizing that I was a bit tired offered me a nice massage, which I enjoyed quite a bit. Then we both headed for the shower and she washed me thoroughly. In the bed she was eager to please and the session lasted some time before I finished. Would I repeat? Maybe.
In the evening things turned a bit sour, my first mistake might have been to send Ms Ca home, because I had planned another meeting in the early evening. However that turned out to be a no show and I headed for dinner.
Having read quite a few reports before I prepared for a backup a little bit later beforehand, but was disappointed with another no show.
Finally I found a girl who arrived a bit late in the evening at the hotel, but had no official ID with her (my mistake for not telling her I guess, she claimed she didn't need it the last time, but this was probably not in the evening). Therefore security did not lend her in, I gave her a little money for transportation and she told me to message her if I want to meet the next day.
Meanwhile I received a lot of contracts for the next days from the dating websites, let's see how those turn out.
Last day was not so successful in the evening, but I managed to collect a lot of contacts. Now it was more a question of whom to meet when and first I settled for an afternoon meeting with Ms E 23 years old. She did want to meet in Ayala around lunch time. However in the end I ended having lunch alone, she was late.
Nevertheless she looked more beautiful then on her pictures and was quite sweet, we headed straight for my hotel.
Her performance was very enthusiastic and she really seemed to enjoy herself. Her body was very beautiful and I did enjoy my time with her. I really got the feeling she tried to please me and was into it to.
Following our encounter we spend around 45 minutes at the pool while the room was cleaned. When we returned she initiated round 2 with a nice slow blowjob. And then we alternated through a couple of positions before I finished my second time of the day.
Having learned from my previous day and messages here I decided to stay with Ms E and spend the night with her. This resulted in a couple of more rounds and not very much sleep, but I enjoyed every minute of it.
Will I repeat? Likely to happen, though conversation with her was a bit harder compared to others.
The day was spent relaxing from yesterday and I got to explore the city a little bit. For the evening I had a date planned with a 22 year old student, who I met on Badoo. Just in case I planned for a backup and was pretty sure I still had enough contacts from my second day to find some company later on.
Ms J, a 22 year old student, did nearly arrive on time and did surprise me with it. She was looking really cute and after dinner we walked around a bit. I tried pulling her to my hotel, but failed at it, maybe I should have been more direct and hinted at study support. A missed opportunity, which I would gladly have taken.
Time for my backup plan, Ms A, 27 years old, did arrive directly at my hotel. You could tell from her body that she was doing lots of sport, because she was really slim and fit. After far too much chit chat, she told me she hadn't done it in a while and got horny quite fast. Overall she was very wild, really tight, knew how to use her body. I enjoyed this and the morning session quite a bit.
My last day in Cebu before I had to the beach. Originally I made some plans to meet a girl who would arrive later in Cebu, but decided against it and met Ms E from day 3 again.
Once again she was really enthusiastic and provided a very GF like service. After two sessions in the afternoon we went to dinner and this might have been the part to send her on her way. In our final session I hit the red. She felt really sorry and helped me clean a bit with water and a towel, which resulted in a nearly clean sheet. Being quite tired I didn't send her away and in the morning when I checked out left a small tip for the cleaning staff.
This concludes my visit to Cebu, I did enjoy it, but I don't think I will return later my trip. The online dating scene is a bit of a change for me. However after a slow start and some time, which I had to invest, it resulted in a lot of contacts. Now I am heading off to the beach and not sure where I will head afterwards, could be Angeles or Subic.
That said.
I'm chatting with some girls online, on the dating sites. For my next trip to Cebu.
They ask a question; I answer it.
Simple enough.
Just now one girl ask: "when were you last here".
My reply "2018".
Her response: "Was that last year".
I'm thinking; I thought I just told you that.
(this is just one example; where I've been scratching my head; thinking; wtf; I just told you that).
Hence the title to my post.
Is that these girls are:
- a bit slow.
- or that they don't bother reading.
Much simpler to just keep asking questions?
[QUOTE=JackLad100;2322684]That said.
I'm chatting with some girls online, on the dating sites. For my next trip to Cebu.
They ask a question; I answer it.
Simple enough.
[/QUOTE]Actually there is significant variation from country to country.
[URL]https://brainstats.com/average-iq-by-country.html[/URL]
I know IQ is not that great a measurement, it only looks at problem solving based mainly on pattern recognition, and can be influenced by practice and culture but the Philippines at 86 average IQ is telling.
Add in the fact that we are talking to them in their second language, usually not dealing with the sharpest knives in the drawer and often the more poorly educated portion of the population and this sort of thing becomes normal.
I hunt on SA a lot, there is a better educated population there and you can actualy have good discussions with them sometimes.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2322901]Actually there is significant variation from country to country.
[URL]https://brainstats.com/average-iq-by-country.html[/URL]
I know IQ is not that great a measurement, it only looks at problem solving based mainly on pattern recognition, and can be influenced by practice and culture but the Philippines at 86 average IQ is telling.
Add in the fact that we are talking to them in their second language, usually not dealing with the sharpest knives in the drawer and often the more poorly educated portion of the population and this sort of thing becomes normal.
I hunt on SA a lot, there is a better educated population there and you can actualy have good discussions with them sometimes.[/QUOTE]Thanks for that link. It would be interesting to take a look at the methodology used for the study; sample sizes, stratification variables and assessment tools. If I remember correctly, the average IQ plotted on a bell curve—in which the mean, median, and mode are the same— for the Stanford-Binet IQ test is 100 with a standard deviation of 15 points. Thus, these results, with so many countries falling below the mean, seem a bit strange.
GE.
[QUOTE=JackLad100;2322684]That said.
I'm chatting with some girls online, on the dating sites. For my next trip to Cebu.
They ask a question; I answer it.
Simple enough.
Just now one girl ask: "when were you last here".
My reply "2018".
Her response: "Was that last year".
I'm thinking; I thought I just told you that.
(this is just one example; where I've been scratching my head; thinking; wtf; I just told you that).
Hence the title to my post.
Is that these girls are:
- a bit slow.
- or that they don't bother reading.
Much simpler to just keep asking questions?[/QUOTE]Hate to tell you Jack but that is not a measurement of intelligence on their part. For your lack of understanding and limited perspective it may be a judgement of yours.
Sometimes the foreigner is the dumbest one, just ask the local people.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2322922]Sometimes the foreigner is the dumbest one, just ask the local people.[/QUOTE]Very true look at the local news and see how many idiots get caught or scammed. When the foreigner thinks with is dick trouble is likely around the corner.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2322922]Sometimes the foreigner is the dumbest one, just ask the local people.[/QUOTE]Yeah, how else would you explain several of these girls receiving monthly stipends from multiple online admirers? And the ones who think its a great idea to marry a hooker and think they will have a happily-ever-after married life? I could go on and on here.
[QUOTE=JackLad100;2322684]That said.
I'm chatting with some girls online, on the dating sites. For my next trip to Cebu.
They ask a question; I answer it.
Simple enough.
Just now one girl ask: "when were you last here".
My reply "2018".
Her response: "Was that last year".
I'm thinking; I thought I just told you that.
(this is just one example; where I've been scratching my head; thinking; wtf; I just told you that).
Hence the title to my post.
Is that these girls are:
- a bit slow.
- or that they don't bother reading.
Much simpler to just keep asking questions?[/QUOTE]I ran into the same thing and found I could not ask two questions in a single chat. 99 times out of 100 only the first question would get an answer. So I just started putting forward one question at a time. IMHO I believe the reason they struggle and appear slow is due to their difficulty with English language and not low IQ, although a good education in our honeys is a rare commodity. I am just glad I don't have to converse with them in Tagalog. That would be really ugly and I would look like an idiot. They are very smart in managing to survive and when it comes to separating a guy from his money.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2322901]
I hunt on SA a lot, there is a better educated population there and you can actualy have good discussions with them sometimes.[/QUOTE]Heck the fxxx. I don't need a discussion. I want to find a quick fuck not a PhD aspirant. And for that purpose the little honeykos are perfect.
[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2323790]Heck the fxxx. I don't need a discussion. I want to find a quick fuck not a PhD aspirant. And for that purpose the little honeykos are perfect.[/QUOTE]To each his own. I perfer a girl that I can connect with but that is just my personal preference.
That said sometimes just fucking a fantastic skilled body then kicking her out the door is enjoyable too.
[QUOTE=Kagino0;2321228]
This concludes my visit to Cebu, I did enjoy it, but I don't think I will return later my trip. The online dating scene is a bit of a change for me. However after a slow start and some time, which I had to invest, it resulted in a lot of contacts. Now I am heading off to the beach and not sure where I will head afterwards, could be Angeles or Subic.[/QUOTE]Nice Reports. Did you invest time before coming to Cebu or while you were here. My experience was the same and I did spend time before and during my trip. Have fun the rest of your trip.
[QUOTE=Ibaski;2323877]Nice Reports. Did you invest time before coming to Cebu or while you were here. My experience was the same and I did spend time before and during my trip. Have fun the rest of your trip.[/QUOTE]I did invest little time beforehand because I read here that it is not really necessary. I tried to get 3 contacts a couple of days before my trip and met one of them on my first night.
During the second day I invested a lot of time chatting up girls and it did feel like work. After that I got plenty of contacts, but often the girls would take some time to respond.
[QUOTE=Kagino0;2321138]The day was spent relaxing from yesterday and I got to explore the city a little bit. For the evening I had a date planned with a 22 year old student, who I met on Badoo. Just in case I planned for a backup and was pretty sure I still had enough contacts from my second day to find some company later on.
Ms J, a 22 year old student, did nearly arrive on time and did surprise me with it. She was looking really cute and after dinner we walked around a bit. I tried pulling her to my hotel, but failed at it, maybe I should have been more direct and hinted at study support. A missed opportunity, which I would gladly have taken.
Time for my backup plan, Ms A, 27 years old, did arrive directly at my hotel. You could tell from her body that she was doing lots of sport, because she was really slim and fit. After far too much chit chat, she told me she hadn't done it in a while and got horny quite fast. Overall she was very wild, really tight, knew how to use her body. I enjoyed this and the morning session quite a bit.[/QUOTE]Great reports I will be heading there I Oct. Hoping to find a LBFM travel to some islands. As I get 2 weeks solo there Before heading to BKK to met up with the wife.
General report. Spent 2 weeks in Cebu recently. I have a couple of regulars in Cebu who, between them, keep my bed warm almost every night. On occasion its fun to find something new to play with during the day or when a regular is not available.
Bo's Coffee Ayala is still the place to sit and watch the Walkers passing by mid-afternoon. They range in age and looks (ala LA Cafe / Manila). Careful the bakla. Pulled 2 at different times, early 30's spinners, relatively attractive given age. 700 to both for ST, nobody batted an eye when I mentioned that. Later one of them started LT with me, several nights, for the same amount. I'm sure others might mention or want more, but mine waltzed right out of the place with me. The one who turned LT was full GFE from the start, holding hands, kissing, cuddly both in public and sleeping.
Walking floor 4 terrace outside one night, two early-20's cuties sitting at a table "Pssst" me as I walked by. Said they were massage girls just off shift, did I want one of them to give me a massage in my room? Thanks, ladies, no, am on my way to meet someone. Traded digits. The cutie had long hair, the so-so had short hair. Half hour later, txt from one of them: "This Marna from Ayala terrace. I come on your condo". Not tonight love, I have a lady. "How much you give her tonight". 700. "I go your condo tomorrow afternoon, 700, all service you will like". Are you the long hair or short hair girl from the terrace? "Long hair. You want?" Unfortunately, it never happened.
Some nights there was a gaggle of young cuties in the area in front of Marshal's Irish Pub, down towards the old Julia's Disco area. 15+ ladies, there were two young dudes asking passing gents if they wanted one of the girls. Chatting one of the girls one night she said 2 k for ST. I mentioned 1000 and she countered 1500. Unfortunately one of my longtime regulars walked up to me with one of her friends and interrupted the conversation, and the cutie walked away (and unfortunately, this transaction also never came about).
Coming out of Marshal's and turning right, proceed to the first light (Juliana Osmena cross street). Turn right, and after dark there are oodles of girls in groups of 2-5 standing on both sides of the street as you walk towards Escario St. This goes on for several blocks.
Stopped into Planet X and also Sisters gogo bars on Maxilom (Viking's group), only to continue to watch the numbers of chublies grow over time, similar to Burgos and AC gogo bars. More than 30 girls in Sisters on several different nights, and less than a handful that I'the consider doing (and I'm not picky). The girls in front on the street in front of Marshal's are younger, better looking, and 1/2 the cost. Six of one, half-dozen of the other.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2351795]General report. Spent 2 weeks in Cebu recently. I have a couple of regulars in Cebu who, between them, keep my bed warm almost every night. On occasion its fun to find something new to play with during the day or when a regular is not available.
Bo's Coffee Ayala is still the place to sit and watch the Walkers passing by mid-afternoon. They range in age and looks (ala LA Cafe / Manila). Careful the bakla. Pulled 2 at different times, early 30's spinners, relatively attractive given age. 700 to both for ST, nobody batted an eye when I mentioned that. Later one of them started LT with me, several nights, for the same amount. I'm sure others might mention or want more, but mine waltzed right out of the place with me. The one who turned LT was full GFE from the start, holding hands, kissing, cuddly both in public and sleeping.
[/QUOTE]You always amaze me Westie! I've spent a good amount of time in Cebu and I usually give 1000-1500ST. Almost all are pulls from PL, Tinder, etc. Didn't know 700 was even possible for a descent looker.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2351795]Some nights there was a gaggle of young cuties in the area in front of Marshal's Irish Pub, down towards the old Julia's Disco area. 15+ ladies, there were two young dudes asking passing gents if they wanted one of the girls.
Coming out of Marshal's and turning right, proceed to the first light (Juliana Osmena cross street). Turn right, and after dark there are oodles of girls in groups of 2-5 standing on both sides of the street as you walk towards Escario St. This goes on for several blocks..[/QUOTE]Now this is good intel. Thanks, Westie.
[QUOTE=MangoKing;2351975]You always amaze me Westie! I've spent a good amount of time in Cebu and I usually give 1000-1500ST. Almost all are pulls from PL, Tinder, etc. Didn't know 700 was even possible for a descent looker.[/QUOTE]The two Ayala gals are older. Still good bodies, but older; younger girls might insist on more. I noticed a few years ago on this board that the gents had generally started upping their going price to 1500 for ST. I ignored that and have had a good run. Also I have several long-time regulars who still take the same amount from 'way-back-when'. Notice the Mango Square girl I mentioned started at 2 k, and we never had a chance to find out if that was for LT or ST. YMMV.
The girls in front of Marshal's were completely absent some nights, like they were prowling as a group in another area. The girls on Osmena street were there every time I walked by.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2351795]Marna from Ayala terrace. [/QUOTE]Hi WestCoast,
Looking at going to Cebu for a business meeting somewhere this year. Was wondering if you still have a phone nr of Marna, or any other girls that don't mind a little company.
I just have a few days, so not really planning on spending a lot of time trying to find a girl.
By any change, have you ever been to Masaji Spa?
Grtz.
[QUOTE=Michielles;2353214]Hi WestCoast,
Looking at going to Cebu for a business meeting somewhere this year. Was wondering if you still have a phone nr of Marna, or any other girls that don't mind a little company.
I just have a few days, so not really planning on spending a lot of time trying to find a girl.
By any change, have you ever been to Masaji Spa?
Grtz.[/QUOTE]You could PM him as no one can give out numbers on the board is part of the rules.
And as you have plenty of time why not try the chat forum and web site to find one of you liking.
Plus you have 12 FRs mainly question. Just an observation. And all / most start with 'I am about to go on a business trip' but sadly there is no FR following he trip.
In the end can't share any number of a contact so bet PM.
I have a few also that Westie has shared and vice versa so PM me if you like for alternates.
Look forward to the PM.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2353465]You could PM him as no one can give out numbers on the board is part of the rules.
And as you have plenty of time why not try the chat forum and web site to find one of you liking.
Plus you have 12 FRs mainly question. Just an observation. And all / most start with 'I am about to go on a business trip' but sadly there is no FR following he trip.
In the end can't share any number of a contact so bet PM.
I have a few also that Westie has shared and vice versa so PM me if you like for alternates.
Look forward to the PM.[/QUOTE]He is a busy, important, man. Not an old fag like you. Show some respect man.
P.S. Is Jackson passing you a commission on the new subs? I see you keep trying but I am kind of skeptical about the convert rate.
[QUOTE=Michielles;2353214]Hi WestCoast,
Looking at going to Cebu for a business meeting somewhere this year. Was wondering if you still have a phone nr of Marna, or any other girls that don't mind a little company.
I just have a few days, so not really planning on spending a lot of time trying to find a girl.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2353465]You could PM him as no one can give out numbers on the board is part of the rules.
And as you have plenty of time why not try the chat forum and web site to find one of you liking.
Plus you have 12 FRs mainly question. Just an observation. And all / most start with 'I am about to go on a business trip' but sadly there is no FR following he trip.
In the end can't share any number of a contact so bet PM.
I have a few also that Westie has shared and vice versa so PM me if you like for alternates.[/QUOTE]Mich: Sorry, Roger is correct. Cannot share that kind of info on the open Board. Best bet for limited time are the gogo bars on Maxilom. Tell the taxi driver "Vikings bar on Maxilom, across from the INC church".
[QUOTE=Cons68;2353714]He is a busy, important, man. Not an old fag like you. Show some respect man.
P.S. Is Jackson passing you a commission on the new subs? I see you keep trying but I am kind of skeptical about the convert rate.[/QUOTE]No need to be a smart azz about it. Doesn't matter what you think about the convert rate. You either can help the newbie out or not.
That's been the headlines the past few days. Anyone been to the KTV before? Or only exclusive for Chinese nationals?
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2353465]You could PM him as no one can give out numbers on the board is part of the rules.
And as you have plenty of time why not try the chat forum and web site to find one of you liking.
Plus you have 12 FRs mainly question. Just an observation. And all / most start with 'I am about to go on a business trip' but sadly there is no FR following he trip.
In the end can't share any number of a contact so bet PM.
I have a few also that Westie has shared and vice versa so PM me if you like for alternates.
Look forward to the PM.[/QUOTE]Hi Wicked Roger,
Thank you for taking the time replying to my message. You're correct I haven't shared a lot, but I share what I have. Last trip was a busy one, and I didn't had much time to walk the streets. (But when I got out I also shared what I found).
This trip I'm trying to go more prepared, that's why I'm on this forum (and some others) to make sure I can share with you my experiences!
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2355114]Mich: Sorry, Roger is correct. Cannot share that kind of info on the open Board. Best bet for limited time are the gogo bars on Maxilom. Tell the taxi driver "Vikings bar on Maxilom, across from the INC church".[/QUOTE]Hi WestCoast,
Thank you. Will let you know when I get back.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2355133]No need to be a smart azz about it. Doesn't matter what you think about the convert rate. You either can help the newbie out or not.[/QUOTE]DG,
I know Cons well. So well we have partied together many times with my pinay friends. I like to help newbies who first contribute but some as we know just ask and ask and ask, visit and never FR as if we never notice.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2353465]You could PM him as no one can give out numbers on the board is part of the rules.
And as you have plenty of time why not try the chat forum and web site to find one of you liking.
Plus you have 12 FRs mainly question. Just an observation. And all / most start with 'I am about to go on a business trip' but sadly there is no FR following he trip.
In the end can't share any number of a contact so bet PM.
I have a few also that Westie has shared and vice versa so PM me if you like for alternates.
Look forward to the PM.[/QUOTE]Hi Wicked Roger,
Thanks for taking the time to reply to me. I know I haven't shared a lot yet, however I have shared what I got. Last trip was a busy one, with not enough time to go out for a walk.
This time I'm going more prepared when I fly to Asia. That is why I'm on this Forum and some others.
And don't worry when I get back I will share, just as I did last time.
You have anything I need to know about Cebu?
Thanks!
I am making plan to visit by end of this month.
I am going through the forum to get more detail.
I am starting with Badoo and tinder to set something before my arrival.
Any other dating app, which works better here?
Any information would be helpful, my PM is open.
Thanks guys,
[QUOTE=Bang4444;2356750]I am making plan to visit by end of this month.
I am going through the forum to get more detail.
I am starting with Badoo and tinder to set something before my arrival.
Any other dating app, which works better here?
Any information would be helpful, my PM is open.
Thanks guys,[/QUOTE]You do not need any monger to PM you. If you read the forum pages in more detail, Goferring has practically written a manual on on line dating in The Philippines. Kabul Guy and others have also written lots of content.
Great, following the Goferring's posts.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2356761]You do not need any monger to PM you. If you read the forum pages in more detail, Goferring has practically written a manual on on line dating in The Philippines. Kabul Guy and others have also written lots of content.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Michielles;2355908]Hi WestCoast,
Thank you. Will let you know when I get back.[/QUOTE]Welcome. Write us a full report: Hotel / condo you stayed in, restaurants you ate at, where you pulled girls from (gogo bar, mall, street, escort agency), what were the girl (s) like, costs, did you get what you paid for (value for your buck), modes of transportation (taxis, jeeps), even where you got your laundry done. And any other observations (such as local customs or cultural differences). Don't be shy.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2356942]Welcome. Write us a full report: Hotel / condo you stayed in, restaurants you ate at, where you pulled girls from (gogo bar, mall, street, escort agency), what were the girl (s) like, costs, did you get what you paid for (value for your buck), modes of transportation (taxis, jeeps), even where you got your laundry done. And any other observations (such as local customs or cultural differences). Don't be shy.[/QUOTE]And then Santa will give you all your wishes Westie LOL.
If we get one decent FR I owe you a beer.
[QUOTE=Bang4444;2356788]Great, following the Goferring's posts.[/QUOTE]I guess this one.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2479-Chat-Rooms-amp-Pen-Pals&p=2335037&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2335037.
[QUOTE=Bang4444;2357513]I guess this one.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2479-Chat-Rooms-amp-Pen-Pals&p=2335037&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2335037.[/QUOTE]EngineDriver,
Thanks.
Bang,
A full reply covers all of the Philippines rather than just Cebu so I'll post it in the Chat Rooms forum. Have a look there.
Enjoy. G.
Master Monger is online now.
Senior Member.
Posts: 276.
Cebu feels like a better AC from years ago!
Ángeles now is crappy and Manila isn't much better! I will never go back to those two places! My first night in Cebu City I got in late so wasn't the best find! But tonight while I was waiting for Hive to open up which was previously J. Ave. I found a sweet little spinner for 1500 short time, no baby, super GFE, and tight as a drum! I haven't felt this good in AC for over a year! Lots of people are willing to help you here in Cebu City! You couldn't pay me to ever go to Angeles again!
Tomorrow I will checkout Mermaid which is close to the airport that is apparently better Oqtagon. I also heard about a place called Majesty close to Alaya which is more like a brothel style for 4000 longtime until 5 am.
I know why there is no Cebu section, because if there was nobody would ever go to Manila or Angeles!
I will show pics later.
Happy mongering,
Master Monger.
[QUOTE=MasterMonger;2357898]
I know why there is no Cebu section, because if there was nobody would ever go to Manila or Angeles!
Master Monger.[/QUOTE]This is the Cebu section. But its hidden and difficult to find. I did complain to The Boss Jackson to make it more visible. But no reaction.
Thanks G.
Your post is very helpful.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2357677]EngineDriver,
Thanks.
Bang,
A full reply covers all of the Philippines rather than just Cebu so I'll post it in the Chat Rooms forum. Have a look there.
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]
Before visiting Philippines cebu, as per the recommendation here.
I had created account in pinalove, tinder, badoo.
Started sorting the options 1 week before my arrival.
Pinalove seemed to be good with lot of options. Obviously most of them ask for pictures. You connect them via line and start chatting. 1 girl specially shown great interest to meet. She even shared her private photos without asking. Looked to be genuine. Others also promised to meet.
I have got many matches in tinder as well. Some of them provides direct line I'd, so we can talk. Lot of interesting profile.
[QUOTE=Bang4444;2363017]Before visiting Philippines cebu, as per the recommendation here.
I had created account in pinalove, tinder, badoo.
Started sorting the options 1 week before my arrival.
Pinalove seemed to be good with lot of options. Obviously most of them ask for pictures. You connect them via line and start chatting. 1 girl specially shown great interest to meet. She even shared her private photos without asking. Looked to be genuine. Others also promised to meet.
I have got many matches in tinder as well. Some of them provides direct line I'd, so we can talk. Lot of interesting profile.[/QUOTE]Cebu has always been a good place for me. I find that Ayala Mall is an easy place to tell them to meet me. Lots of transport options for the girls.
Use a hotel adjacent to Ayala for your convenience.
[QUOTE=PilotPaul;2363021]Cebu has always been a good place for me. I find that Ayala Mall is an easy place to tell them to meet me. Lots of transport options for the girls.
Use a hotel adjacent to Ayala for your convenience.[/QUOTE]I booked ABC hotel, Ramos street.
I have booked ABC hotel.
My flight was on late night reaching there early morning. I already informed the hotel.
Few profile already shortlisted for day 1.
One profile is from Tinder, she says she does massage and also provide sex. Picture shared. 24 age. Looks good. I asked her to meet in morning time.
Another profile also from Tinder, who is going to meet in afternoon. She say half Filipina, half Spanish. Photo shared, looks ok.
Night time, planned to go mango street for fun.
Let's see.
Reached Cebu City. Took taxi to ABC hotel. 500 pesos settles.
Also took the SIM outside the airport, 300 pesos for 5 days enough data plan.
Reached hotel, security is in deep sleep. Where is reception?? Security woke up and asked to go on 3rd floor. Anyway checked in the room. Slept.
Woke up in morning around 8 am. Had breakfast in hotel cafeteria.
Asked the massage girl when can she come. She said now. I gave her hotel details.
After 30 minutes got the message that she has headache, tired and need some rest so can she arrive in afternoon. I said fine.
Again got the message after 1 hour that she feels ok now and can come to hotel. I said OK.
Waited in the hotel, she messaged that she reached and waiting in lobby. Ok.
I went and saw a lady waiting. I went close and sat, OMG she is not the lady whose picture was shared. Lady was old, ugly. I showed her picture which was shared, she said that picture girl is her manager and finds client for them. Fuck. First scam on first day early in morning. Sent her, she asked for transportation, gave 200 pesos.
Mood is off. I messaged her many times later. She never replied. Time wasted in morning.
Now waiting for another profile min afternoon. She woke up. This time I thought not to invite in hotel directly. Better to meet in Ayala. I informed her. She agreed to meet in Ayala for lunch. In Ayala I waited in restaurant for her arrival. She asked what to order for food so we can finish the lunch early. OK. Ordered food before her arrival.
She came. We said Hi and hugged. She didn't say anything. She was full of makeup and looked similar but not exactly like photo. I asked that, she said it's her only, see clothes matching.
Why her voice is different. Looked heavy to me.
I asked if she is a real woman. She said yes. Asked why I am asking, I said your voice is heavy.
Food came and we talked. Now I was 100% sure, it's not a girl. Face is full of makeup. Heavy voice. Hair coming out from nose. Yukkkk.
Though we sat quietly, and I didn't say anything bad to her but She also felt that that I am no more interested. She ate whatever she could. While leaving, I said I can not proceed further.
Asked the transportation again, this time 400 pesos. I didn't want to create any scene. Gave her and left for Bo's coffee.
What a relief, and what a waste.
Sat in Bos cofee for 2 hours. Nothing happened to me. Roamed around the place in Ayala. A old woman (MILF around 32-35) approached. Normal talk. She told she is not into this but in mall I can find many. Ok. She later said that if I am interested she can provide service to me. Asking 3 K. That's too much. Reduced to 2 K for 2 shot. I said sorry and left the place.
Again went to Bo's cofee and sat. Later I saw both the person in Bo's cofee who I met in Ayala.
MILF got her client, old guy. They left. Ladyboy still eating and busy in phone.
I am also done for the day. Tired. Need sleep.
Score 0. First time experience lunch with ladyboy.
Ha ha.
Woke up around 9 pm. Hungry. Looking for good. Ok. Seafood city is best as per Google. Took taxi. Fucknthe traffic. I reached seafood city 9:55 pm. Front desk said we are closing. Ahhh. Dick and stomach both are starving.
Took taxi and asked to take me to larsian. Ohh man, the taxi guy is old not understanding what I was saying. He make me roamed in city and finally reached larsian but at 11 pm. Got the food. Wow, this is really satisfying. Hanging rice, fish and prawns. 600 pesos. Worth each penny.
Walked to mango Street, not much crowded. I thought to come back later after digestion of food. Haha.
Woke up 2 am. Walked to Mango street. Went to one pub. Wow, girls and beer. Enjoyed 2 hours. Met few girls, enjoyed grabbing, rubbing, dancing, kiss etc.
Some girl asked for night, I didn't find them interesting.
Anyway enjoyed the pub and beer but still score 0.
Day 2 is nicely planned with one of the pinalove profile girl, who has shown great interest. Sent private photos.
I already messaged her on day 1. She is eager to meet.
Anyway woke up and messaged. Gave her hotel details. She seems searching the place online but couldn't find it seems. I asked where she lives, she said lapu-lapu city. Ok it's 15 km. I asked to take taxi, agreed to pay the fare. She said she will manage and come in 2-3 hours. OK.
I thought to check the Ayala mall for breakfast and other things. Went to Sambhal restaurants, had food till neck and roaming in Ayala for any luck. Asked many girls, lot of them show no interest.
BTW I forgot to tell you that I am an INDIAN. We have some great repo here. Thanks to previous visitors. I hate those assholes.
Many said no, some says they are in school (OMG, it's my bad to ask. Sorry). No luck.
Thought of checking IT park. Took taxi. Taxi guys said he know some good girls (I didn't believe) he anyway shared his number.
Went to IT park. Had beer. Had cofee. Nothing happened. Thought of calling taxi guy. He said girl will meet later in 5 pm in mango street. Ok. Went to hotel.
While waiting for girls, thought of trying masssage. Went to massage in diplomat hotel. 1000 pesos. HJ and massage. Ok. Relaxed a bit.
Girls (taxi guy) got late. Another profile of pinalove wanted to come but I was not sure of quality. Anyway asked her to come to diplomat hotel. She arrived. She is old. Not beautiful. Tooth has stainss. Asked her to leave. Yeahhh 200 pesos for transportation (third time in 2 days).
Went to hotel to wait for girl promised by taxi person.
Also, kept calling the first profile who was scheduled to meet. She is not reachable, she is not replying in line. Fuck.
This time I didn't want to miss seafood city food. Went there by 7 pm. Very good choice. Lot of food. Had enough.
Took taxi for mango street. This taxi guy asked if we wanted some fun. I said yes. He took some places searching for girl. He also didn't find. Went to go-go bar. Girl is ready to come to hotel. But 5000 pesos for night + I have to buy some drink for them. Expensive.
Tried some anothe gogo bar, similar thing happened. Tired of searching pussy.
Got message that first taxi guy that girls will be more late.
Fuck.
Ok.
Went to room. Got message from first pinalove girl that she had some health issues. She was not feeling good. On top of that she told some another story which I believed somehow. She said sorry many times. Ok. Got cancelled anyway.
Out of frustrations, I booked the scuba next day with whale shark and diving.
Sleeping. Day 2 over. Score - 0. 25 (HJ ha ha h).
[QUOTE=Bang4444;2363417]Went to room. Got message from first pinalove girl that she had some health issues. She was not feeling good. On top of that she told some another story which I believed somehow. She said sorry many times. Ok. Got cancelled anyway.
Out of frustrations, I booked the scuba next day with whale shark and diving.
Sleeping. Day 2 over. Score - 0. 25 (HJ ha ha h).[/QUOTE]Load Wechat, there are usually a few freelancers you can get quickly.
Hi going to Cebu soon for the first time but got mixed feeling as some people said Cebu is not the same like few years back. Read some reviews back few pages J Ave super club was the place to go for freelancers but was closed down last year, same as the whole mango area. Where are the freelancers disco like J Ave super now, where should I go to get some night fun? Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
[QUOTE=TicaMan;2363427]Hi going to Cebu soon for the first time but got mixed feeling as some people said Cebu is not the same like few years back. Read some reviews back few pages J Ave super club was the place to go for freelancers but was closed down last year, same as the whole mango area. Where are the freelancers disco like J Ave super now, where should I go to get some night fun? Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Like every where, a lot of Cebu girls have moved online. Gogo standard to SeekingArrangement and Tinder, Beerbar standard to Pinalove, FilippinoCupid et al.
Still lots of street walking FLs and a couple of Beerbars along Mango Qve worth a look though. As Bang found below, the Gogos are fine for a drink and a perv but prices, late release times for the girls and general fuck around attitude mean they can be skipped as pick up options.
ICON is a higher end freelance option / nightclub but the girls will charge accordingly.
There are still plenty of good times and fun girls to be found in Cebu.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=TicaMan;2363427]Hi going to Cebu soon for the first time[/QUOTE]I was only passing thru cebu and was my first time.
Ayala mall. Reports say it's a good pick up place especially nears bos coffee. The few I saw were rough.
Mango area. A few gogo bars but I didn't venture in. Marshalls Irish bar and the sports bar above (a few girls in here), there are sw outside here and along the road, nothing special but ok, many LBs. Down osmena street there are some bars, one expat bar which is ok and there are a few sw along this street.
When I went to the ferry there seems to be loads of bars overlooking the port but this was daytime and all closed so I don't know about them.
It's a pleasant enough town but for me not that great for action.
This day is planned for scuba with whale shark and diving. Started very early 3 am for Oslab. Reached there by 6 am. And finished first diving with whale shark by 7:30 am.
Wow. First Nice experience in the trip.
Afternoon scheduled for another diving at sumilon island. This is also good experience with nice corals and marine.
Started for Cebu by 2 pm and on the way stopped for tumalog waterfall. Reached at Cebu by 5 pm.
Now I got the call from first taxi guy that girl is ready. I thought of trying last time. Finally girl delivered to hotel. Average girl. Fucked her 2 times. At least something scored in this trip.
Sleep for some time and lead to airport for return.
I was surprised that airport collect 850 pesos for airport fee. Airport doesn't have good restaurants and facilities. Not sure why they are collecting money.
Anyway returned back safely without much score but good diving experience.
My score is less. Probably I relied too much on online match. I think, being an INDIAN unfavorable here little.
I think this city has sex everywhere, probably I could have spent more time in Ayala or Mango street.
I once even asked the room service lady for help. She brought another lady for me, unfortunately she was running on her period.
Some pinalove girl, asked me monetary help for her education, but asking very high 25 K.
One nurse is interested just to meet and having breakfast.
Some pinalove ladies promised but didn't show up.
I even asked one shopkeeper lady, she was ready but waiting to close the shop. Didn't score though.
I am hoping to return here soon and fulfill the crave for wild fun in near future.
Thanks to the people of this forum here. Specially Goferring.
Enjoy and keep sharing your experience. It helps people visiting here.
[QUOTE=Bang4444;2363507]My score is less. Probably I relied too much on online match. I think, being an INDIAN unfavorable here little.
I think this city has sex everywhere, probably I could have spent more time in Ayala or Mango street.
<snip>
I am hoping to return here soon and fulfill the crave for wild fun in near future.
Thanks to the people of this forum here. Specially Goferring.
Enjoy and keep sharing your experience. It helps people visiting here.[/QUOTE]Really nice reports there Bang. I'm sorry to hear that your mongering trip didn't meet your expectations. I'm assuming that was your first time to the Philippines. It takes many visits to a country before you can get the hang of it. You may have made a few basic newbie mistakes as well. I'm sure you will learn from them and get better next time.
1. Being your first trip, you should have just stuck to AC or LA Cafe. That would have got your confidence up. Quasimodo can walk into an AC bar and pick up three spinners for the whole night there. Anyone of any colour, dick size, smell or looks can get a root in AC. I've never been to Medellin, but if I did, I would just stay at the Mansion and dine in on Colombian ass. The online game in Colombia is on Facebook, but as a newbie (albeit with 35 years' of mongering experience), I wouldn't even think about it. Similarly, in Germany, a newbie would just walk into an FKK. I've been to the Philippines seven times, but only last year did I ever try online action, and that was with only WeChat and Tinder. Previously, I only ever went to bars. It takes a long time to understand the culture, the girls' motivation, the games they play etc. I wouldn't recommend dating sites for newbies because those Pinays will eat you alive. As a newbie, always take the easiest option until you understand how the game is played.
2. Cebu for a newbie can be daunting as it is geographically dispersed. Do you stay on Mactan or do you stay in Cebu? Just where do you start? You nearly got there at the Mango bars. The BF system is confusing. I think its 4 LDs, plus 5,000 PHP all inclusive for LT. You should have just paid the money and banged a hooker on successive nights!
3. I think all the girls could smell your desperation. It became a death spiral for you. The more times you missed out, the more your confidence was affected and your level of desperation just increased. The girls in the lower echelons where we mix can pick a mongers fear and desperation a mile a way. Refer to Point 1 above. Girls do not like men who are not confident.
4. You acknowledge that people with dark skin are less desirable in the Philippines. White skin is seen as pure and dark skin is seen as dirty. You can't control their thinking, but what you can control is how you portray yourself. You can come across as a confident, erudite, urbane man. Chicks love style and confidence. Walk into a bar or hotel like you own the joint. Wear expensive clothes and nice shoes to differentiate yourself from your countrymen. Believe me, in Asian countries, how you dress, how you smell and how you walk all get noticed. Leave the shorts and the Bier Bintang singlets to the fat, uneducated Aussies. You are better than them. FWIW, in Asia I only ever wear shorts at the pool or gym.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2363565]
3. I think all the girls could smell your desperation. It became a death spiral for you. The more times you missed out, the more your confidence was affected and your level of desperation just increased. The girls in the lower echelons where we mix can pick a mongers fear and desperation a mile a way. Refer to Point 1 above. Girls do not like men who are not confident.[/QUOTE]This is so true. If I or anyone I know is in a death spiral, my recommendation is to put pride aside and fuck something, anything just to get rid of the sense of desperation that everyone can notice. Once you have regained confidence, then you can refocus upon your priority girls.
Also, a wingman, preferably one who has been there before and knows his way around, can help considerably with a first trip to a city.
Bang, don't let one so so trip deter you because once you learn the lay of the land, cebu can be a great place to have some fun. I can name numerous cities where my second and subsequent visits were much better than my first.
If your next trip is to include diving try Alona, Moalboal or Malapascua towards the end of your stay. Only a couple of hours away and they can be used as a carrot to attract the right girl (s) to join you.
Thanks for your honest post.
Cheers. G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2363580]This is so true. If I or anyone I know is in a death spiral,
..
Thanks for your honest post.
Cheers. G.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2363565]Really nice reports there Bang. I'm sorry to hear that your mongering trip didn't meet your expectations. I'm assuming that was your first time to the Philippines. ....
You are better than them. FWIW, in Asia I only ever wear shorts at the pool or gym.[/QUOTE]Thanks Engine and G for the feedback. I had many first time success, so my expectations were high I guess. But yes, every place is different.
Looking forward to visit this place again.
Thanks.
Hey Folks,
I've been considering a trip to SEA in mid / late September and was looking to be in Cebu. Mostly, I'm longing for a short vacation, but seeing as I was going to be in SEA, I figured I could rope in a bit of fun with girls. A buddy of mine suggested Cebu to spend some time and I figured why not. Although, I'm leaning towards going to Yogyakarta first to see the temples there.
So, I always RTFF as much as I can. The Cebu forum is a bit light though in volume of past posts and they get 5+ years old real quick. By reading the forum, I've gathered names of bunch of hotels (Quest / Mandarin, seemingly all GF), bars (seemingly not good), the mall, restaurants, etc. The girl part is a bit lacking, haha.
Then, I read that you got to do the social networking thing. Huh, okay. I registered for DIA and promptly got banned in an hour for who knows what. I can't figure it out. Somebody sent me a message, which I wasn't even able to see but I think that triggered it. I wasn't able to register with any other number, so DIA was out.
I joined PL and I actually paid for a month, since I figured I was definitely going. Kinda pricey for just a month, but oh well. Got some interests and a couple of numbers sent to me. I figured I could try to work on it. The forum said cultivate contacts, so I'm watering the damn seeds and cultivating.
Then, I see these last couple of posts about Cebu not being for newbies, go to AC, etc. , and Bang's experience listed below. Ahh, I share that particular unfavored heritage, so that's a cross I bear. And that affects the social networking thing as well.
FWIW, I've been to Phuket and Pattaya and was never stopped at any bar and my experience / behavior tends to be a bit different. (I wanted to write a post about it but I find that it always gets argumentative, so I didn't).
Now, I'm wondering if I should do Cebu or just call it off. I really like the bars (Phuket style) where I can drink some and hang out with girls in skimpy clothes (LDs cost money but I do it if I'm going to have a good time). I understand AC is where that is found, but I also like it to be a tropical paradise with 4* hotels. Great buffets, good wifi (a man's got to work to fund these trips), etc. So, AC doesn't quite fit the bill of vacation spot, which Cebu is.
I've read your recent feedback below, but if anybody has any other tips / advice / cautions / discussion, I would appreciate that. I tend not to PM uninvited. I do always follow up and post my research / reports (it's just that I do these trips once every couple of years).
Truly, it gets so old answering the same question over and over. So, if anybody even read this wall of text: thank you!
[QUOTE=Maila;2364191]Hey Folks,
I've been considering a trip to SEA in mid / late September and was looking to be in Cebu. Mostly, I'm longing for a short vacation, but seeing as I was going to be in SEA, I figured I could rope in a bit of fun with girls. A buddy of mine suggested Cebu to spend some time and I figured why not. Although, I'm leaning towards going to Yogyakarta first to see the temples there[/QUOTE]How short is your 'short vacation'? I'd agree with others that just 2 or 3 days for a first time visitor is going to be difficult to become familiar wih the scene there and you will be restricted to the point and shoot apps (tinder etc). A little longer opens up the Pina Love girls who are happy to drop around and bouncing between the higher end discos and Mango Ave beer bars.
I've been blocked so many times from DIA that I don't even bother now. Plenty available on PL to keep you busy. Some say put in pre work to get 'good girls'. Others, like me, say don't even worry about messaging until your there in town then the reliability of 'can you come over now' is much higher than 'let's meet next month'. Don't forget to have your location as Cebu City not back home.
If you are of Indian appearance it's not going to be a positive but how you act will make a much bigger impact on how you are received than dark skin. It sounds as if you have that sorted. Just act the same as you have been in Pattaya etc.
Finding girls, bars and beaches together in the Philippines is difficult. Have you considered having fun in cebu then taking a favored girl to Alona Beach, Moalboal or Dumaguette? They are only a couple of hours away and quite nice places.
In summary: a first visit for 2 days, then just go to AC; +/- a week then go, have a look at the various options and either stay if you like it or grab someone and take her to one of the nearby beaches.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2269410]As expected Cebu Pacific was an hour late arriving into Cebu so it was a very late checkin to AirBnB's Trillium Residences. Cheap but one block further away from Ayala than the Quest and the Mandarin.
I wanted a sure thing so before leaving Duma, I contacted some numbers I had from a previous visit:
Ms. Coyote had experienced Venezuelan inflation levels and wanted crazy numbers. Negotiations continue but she may be lost to the dark side.
Ms Karate answered straight back saying "Sure, just message when you have checked in. " She certainly rocked my world last time so I was looking forward to meeting up again. After checkin and a quick shower, we agreed to meet at Social in Ayala. Sure enough, she was there with a cute friend looking hot as ever. Threesomes start flashing through my mind but I thought it best to leave that for later. I could tell her body was still as tight as a drum and she was showing just enough cleavage to keep my eyes wandering.
A light meal, a couple of drinks and we are back to the condo. The girlfriend makes polite conversation and then Grabs away. I go off for a freshen up (outside is as humid as hell), come back and. . . She's comatose asleep on the lounge. I wake her up and suggest sleeping in the bed but she insists she will sleep there for a little then join me later. What!! You have to be kidding!! I stay calm, just. . . . wake her up again after 30 minutes with the same suggestion. "Lateeerrrrr". Fuck!! It's looking like another bubbly fun chick has turned into a Princess Hooker..[/QUOTE]I'll be in Cebu next wee. Care to share lady's contact info?
[QUOTE=Goferring;2364230]How short is your 'short vacation'?
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Short is pretty short. 3 days? I got about a week but I was hoping to get a culture fix by visiting Borobodur temples. Finding all of it together ensures time efficiency, but as you said, bars, beaches, and girls are often a hard combination.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2364230]
Have you considered having fun in cebu then taking a favored girl to Alona Beach, Moalboal or Dumaguette? They are only a couple of hours away and quite nice places.
In summary: a first visit for 2 days, then just go to AC; +/- a week then go, have a look at the various options and either stay if you like it or grab someone and take her to one of the nearby beaches.
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]I hadn't considered that option. My prior understanding on such arrangements has been that you ought to know the girls reasonably well before taking them to a vacation spot, lest you be stuck in a remote area with a girl who doesn't gel with you. However, I can research this option further now that you have given me a couple of new things to find out about. Just to clarify, you mean find a girl on PL for this since on-ground availability is minimal (assuming we're talking about Cebu).
Good news is that I have some time to put into PL. I tried Badoo but I think I've gotten too old now. I don't get it, hahaha! It's not structured like a normal dating site and seems Tinder-like.
But I also understand what you're saying about 'right now'. I've gotten those 'come right now' messages.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2364230]
If you are of Indian appearance it's not going to be a positive but how you act will make a much bigger impact on how you are received than dark skin. It sounds as if you have that sorted. Just act the same as you have been in Pattaya etc.
[/QUOTE]Pretty much what you said. You can overcome small biases by how you carry yourself overall. Some things you can change, some you can't. See'est la vie!
Okay, so what I got was:
1) Either go to AC.
2) Or go to Cebu and then find girl and take to beach town.
3) Spend a week preferably.
On a different note, thank you Goferring for your reply. I've read your detailed posts and I appreciate you taking the time and effort to share your experience.
[QUOTE=Maila;2364336]Okay, so what I got was:
1) Either go to AC.
2) Or go to Cebu and then find girl and take to beach town.
3) Spend a week preferably.[/QUOTE]Jogja is a great, interesting non mongering place but getting in and out will eat into you time. A day in, a day temple tour and a day out is 3 days out of your week.
Add on cebu and it's another day in, a day to find your bearings and another day out. That's your week and you haven't gotten laid. I'm exaggerating but you get the idea.
Add on AC and you get the red eye Jakarta MNL flight, direct bus / taxi to AC and girls at your door step for the next 4 days, then taxi direct back to NAIA.
No Jogja and you have the choice of endless pussy in a shit hole location or a few days getting your bearings in Cebu, meeting girls online or in the discos, then stay if you like it / want to see more or grab the best performer so far and then 3 hours to Moalboal or Alona and kick back by the beach, sun downers in the afternoon and your special friend at night.
Up to you depending how see a lot vs relaxing you like your holidays.
Enjoy. G.
P.S. Forgot the third option:
Arrive in Cebu, hate the place and can't get laid so catch the 4 am flight direct to Clark/AC then spend your remaining days balls deep. 😁
Cheers. G.
[QUOTE=Maila;2364191]Hey Folks,
I've been considering a trip to SEA in mid / late September and was looking to be in Cebu. Mostly, I'm longing for a short vacation, but seeing as I was going to be in SEA, I figured I could rope in a bit of fun with girls. A buddy of mine suggested Cebu to spend some time and I figured why not. Although, I'm leaning towards going to Yogyakarta first to see the temples there.
[/QUOTE]From your writing, you appear to be quite westernized and that will show in your interaction with girls. You seem to know the drill. What I gather from reading the Thailand forum is that the girls don't like the constant haggling, the ass fondling without buying LDs and the general rudeness shown to them by mongers from a certain country. As long as you dress well, smile a lot, are respectful and don't hunt in a pack, you won't have any problems.
Cebu is going to be a compromise to achieve what you want. There are really nice resorts on the eastern side of Mactan Island, near the airport. Shangri La, Movenpick, Dusit etc. If you stay there, you will need to order in your hookers from Lapu Lapu using Tinder and WeChat. There are KTVs on Mactan, but best to leave those to the Koreans. They are not for newbies from elsewhere and you will need a portable ATM strapped to your back.
Alternatively, you could just stay in Cebu City, and miss out on the resorts. The gogo bars you like are in Mango Square in Cebu City itself. It will cost about 6,500 pesos to take a chick out for long time from the bars. Bear in mind that a round trip from Mactan Island (Lapu Lapu) to the Mango Square bars will be two hours so it's resorts or bars, not both.
PL, like any dating app is a numbers game. Unlike in the west, half the chicks on these sites in the Philippines are hookers to some degree, so that works in your favour. Even if 90% of the chicks reject you, 10% will accept an offer. That 10% is actually hundreds of girls in a place like Cebu. In three days, how many roots do you actually need? LOL.
WRT to your interest in getting an instant girlfriend for 3 days to take somewhere, my view is that this is actually asking for trouble if you are a newbie. You need to understand the local culture, the girls' psyche and accept that the girls will be bird brained. Many of the hookers have undiagnosed mental health problems. An educated man like you would probably not last the distance with one. As my friend Pedro Morales says "Put your dick in them, squirt your load, do some small talk and Run, Forest, Run"
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2364410]
What I gather from reading the Thailand forum is that the girls don't like the constant haggling, the ass fondling without buying LDs and the general rudeness shown to them by mongers from a certain country.
[/QUOTE]No, no, I will gladly pay to fondle, ha! I don't have those issues. Once in Vegas, a stripper had to force me to fondle her because I observed the no-touching rule. .
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2364410]
Cebu is going to be a compromise to achieve what you want. There are really nice resorts on the eastern side of Mactan Island, near the airport. Shangri La, Movenpick, Dusit etc. If you stay there, you will need to order in your hookers from Lapu Lapu using Tinder and WeChat. There are KTVs on Mactan, but best to leave those to the Koreans. They are not for newbies from elsewhere and you will need a portable ATM strapped to your back.
[/QUOTE]This is really good feedback. Not what I want to hear but it's top grade intel!
Not quite sure how to do WeChat. It seems they want a referral from other existing WeChat users including OTP passwords exchanged. I didn't quite see how I would manage that.
Are resorts GF friendly in Cebu? I guess I just need to abandon the resorts and consider Cebu City. The road trip won't be worth it.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2364410]
Alternatively, you could just stay in Cebu City, and miss out on the resorts. The gogo bars you like are in Mango Square in Cebu City itself. It will cost about 6,500 pesos to take a chick out for long time from the bars. Bear in mind that a round trip from Mactan Island (Lapu Lapu) to the Mango Square bars will be two hours so it's resorts or bars, not both.
[/QUOTE]I did really enjoy the beer bars in Phuket but not the gogos in Pattaya. Phuket bars seemed alive and brimming with energy.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2364410]
PL, like any dating app is a numbers game. Unlike in the west, half the chicks on these sites in the Philippines are hookers to some degree, so that works in your favour. Even if 90% of the chicks reject you, 10% will accept an offer. That 10% is actually hundreds of girls in a place like Cebu. In three days, how many roots do you actually need? LOL.
[/QUOTE]What I don't get is all the masses of women saying they want marriage, serious LTR, etc. Are they just lying and are open to p2 p? Or they're just something else in their own minds. And what's the meeting protocol? Meet at mall first or call them directly to room?
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2364410]
WRT to your interest in getting an instant girlfriend for 3 days to take somewhere, my view is that this is actually asking for trouble if you are a newbie. You need to understand the local culture, the girls' psyche and accept that the girls will be bird brained. Many of the hookers have undiagnosed mental health problems. An educated man like you would probably not last the distance with one. As my friend Pedro Morales says "Put your dick in them, squirt your load, do some small talk and Run, Forest, Run"
[/QUOTE]That's what I figured. Seems high risk.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2364349]
No Jogja and you have the choice of endless pussy in a shit hole location or a few days getting your bearings in Cebu, meeting girls online or in the discos, then stay if you like it / want to see more or grab the best performer so far and then 3 hours to Moalboal or Alona and kick back by the beach, sun downers in the afternoon and your special friend at night.
Up to you depending how see a lot vs relaxing you like your holidays.
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]I'm going to take your suggestion and drop Jogja. I choose option 2: stay in Cebu and get bearings and see what happens next. I can't for now do the shit hole location. I've been stuck in India and that would be barely any change at all, ha! :-the I spent a week in Pattaya and didn't like it. I do better in touristy locales.
I'll do Jogja in December then. I got to make a SEA run to renew my FF status! I spent New Years in Phuket once and prices quoted were 200-300%. So I should get my culture then.
[QUOTE=Maila;2364495]What I don't get is all the masses of women saying they want marriage, serious LTR, etc. Are they just lying and are open to p2 p? Or they're just something else in their own minds. And what's the meeting protocol? Meet at mall first or call them directly to room?
That's what I figured. Seems high risk.[/QUOTE]Just reply saying you are just having a holiday and looking for casual fun. Most will say OK to that or at least you will save time. Many will say I need help and those just say no problem and say what you want and price you will pay. Those take straight to your room. The others will suggest a meeting place. Select somewhere in walking distance from you. Then wait for their call or you book them a Grab so you can follow their location so you don't wait around.
[QUOTE=Maila;2364498]I'm going to take your suggestion and drop Jogja. I choose option 2: stay in Cebu and get bearings and see what happens next. I can't for now do the shit hole location. I've been stuck in India and that would be barely any change at all, ha! :-the I spent a week in Pattaya and didn't like it. I do better in touristy locales.
I'll do Jogja in December then. I got to make a SEA run to renew my FF status! I spent New Years in Phuket once and prices quoted were 200-300%. So I should get my culture then.[/QUOTE]Sounds like a plan. AC is just a mini Pattaya with out the beach so you won't be missing any thing new.
Learning the online ropes in Cebu will also help you when you do go to Jogja. It's not girls on tap but Indonesian Cupid, Baddoo and Tinder do offer some opportunities.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=GDreams;2364504]Just reply saying you are just having a holiday and looking for casual fun. Most will say OK to that or at least you will save time. Many will say I need help and those just say no problem and say what you want and price you will pay. Those take straight to your room. The others will suggest a meeting place. Select somewhere in walking distance from you. Then wait for their call or you book them a Grab so you can follow their location so you don't wait around.[/QUOTE]Is it okay to have that conversation on PL or need to move it off site / offline?
I've read people in the forum giving 1000-1500. Is that reasonable still?
[QUOTE=Maila;2364756]Is it okay to have that conversation on PL or need to move it off site / offline?
I've read people in the forum giving 1000-1500. Is that reasonable still?[/QUOTE]PL won't ban you for language. They will ban you if you get too many complaints. I've never been banned and I've asked far more brutal questions than those listed.
Your prices are fair for street freelancers or PL short times. Good looking Tinder or club girls will want more. I've had these point blank refuse 3 k LT, saying that's their ST rate and LT will be 5 k. These were very good looking girls though.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=Maila;2364756]Is it okay to have that conversation on PL or need to move it off site / offline?
I've read people in the forum giving 1000-1500. Is that reasonable still?[/QUOTE]I usually get their phone number and connect on Whatsapp or Viber as I don't pay the subscription and messaging every 10 minutes is frustrating. Plus it allows you to videochat. I haven't done Cebu. I prefer young and pretty. I generally want overnight and pay 3 - 4 k but have paid up to 6. I'm sure if you are not too concerned with age then +30's should be a lot cheaper.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2364764]. I've had these point blank refuse 3 k LT, saying that's their ST rate and LT will be 5 k. These were very good looking girls though.
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]I have been reading a bit about Cebu, price seems a bit more then Angeles. That's too bad but it is what it is. For 3 k in Angeles you could have a good looking one as well.
Thinking of doing a week Angeles then Cebu and ending my trip with few days Davao.
Traveler out.
[QUOTE=ANewTravler;2364800]I have been reading a bit about Cebu, price seems a bit more then Angeles. That's too bad but it is what it is. For 3 k in Angeles you could have a good looking one as well.
Thinking of doing a week Angeles then Cebu and ending my trip with few days Davao.
Traveler out.[/QUOTE]A 20 yo on PL told me her alone rate is 7 k. Young, fit spinner. I mean, that is a lot of money for the Philippines.
(Actually she said "maximum 7 k", but my next joke about minimum would have gone over her head, so I let it go).
[QUOTE=Maila;2365251]A 20 yo on PL told me her alone rate is 7 k. Young, fit spinner. I mean, that is a lot of money for the Philippines.
(Actually she said "maximum 7 k", but my next joke about minimum would have gone over her head, so I let it go).[/QUOTE]Don't let go, always try. You could have big surprises.
[QUOTE=Albert9989;2365255]Don't let go, always try. You could have big surprises.[/QUOTE]Try negotiating lower or try paying 7 k?
[QUOTE=Maila;2365251]A 20 yo on PL told me her alone rate is 7 k. Young, fit spinner. I mean, that is a lot of money for the Philippines.
(Actually she said "maximum 7 k", but my next joke about minimum would have gone over her head, so I let it go).[/QUOTE]You're not in town yet. Of course she's giving you skyhigh rates. Arrive and send her a photo of 4 k on a table next to your Quest key and tell her its hers if she comes over.
Please tell me we are talking unlimited action, all night and not a ST quicky.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2365267]You're not in town yet. Of course she's giving you skyhigh rates. Arrive and send her a photo of 4 k on a table next to your Quest key and tell her its hers if she comes over.
Please tell me we are talking unlimited action, all night and not a ST quicky.
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]I'll find out. But that photo thing. That's serious negotiating experience. I'll try it out and see if it works, haha. I'm just elated at how devious that is.
[QUOTE=Maila;2365269]I'll find out. But that photo thing. That's serious negotiating experience. I'll try it out and see if it works, haha. I'm just elated at how devious that is.[/QUOTE]It's not devious. It's actually generous. 😁.
Any number of PL girls would jump at 1500/3000 once you are IN TOWN.
Cheers. G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2365277]It's not devious. It's actually generous. 😁.
Any number of PL girls would jump at 1500/3000 once you are IN TOWN.
Cheers. G.[/QUOTE]Hahah yes it is devious. Never paid more then 3.5 k for a model type LT.
Is 5 or 6 k the normal price in Cebu these days?
[QUOTE=Maila;2365258]Try negotiating lower or try paying 7 k?[/QUOTE]Negotiating down for sure!!!
What is the risk if she doesn't accept?
[QUOTE=Albert9989;2365283]Negotiating down for sure!!!
What is the risk if she doesn't accept?[/QUOTE]This might help with what the better girls can go for. The whole post is a bit long but it also includes Short / Medium / Long Time options.
It's a year old but I've used the same pricing on subsequent trips with no complaints.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2153551]At 10:59 pm I received a message saying that she was on her way and she suggested coming straight to the room. Obviously, I was fine with that. A couple of minutes later she arrived. Holy Shit!! I received some profile pics earlier but they were not fair warning. In the flesh, she was incredible: max 5'0", maybe 75 lb and stacked with DDs. She was standing there in leggings and a sports bra, dripping with sweat, having come straight from 4 hours of dance rehearsals. I was already harder than Chinese Calculus. She requested a shower where I valiantly helped her out of her clothes and tongue bathed every crevice. In bed those tits made great play pads and we had several sessions. All positions were catered for and she had a mouse's ear that tasted heavenly. In the morning we had another playful session and she left with 3 k taxi money and promises that she would return. Her weekend was allready full with Coyote dancing and car show promo work so she had no spare time but anytime after that was fine.
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[QUOTE=Goferring;2365277]It's not devious. It's actually generous. 😁.
Any number of PL girls would jump at 1500/3000 once you are IN TOWN.
Cheers. G.[/QUOTE]I have an answer: one hour. 😁. That's 7000, just to clarify.
[QUOTE=ANewTravler;2365279]Hahah yes it is devious. Never paid more then 3.5 k for a model type LT.
Is 5 or 6 k the normal price in Cebu these days?[/QUOTE]Normal price is 1500/3000 and some guys are getting cheaper. Seriously good looking girls might bump that to 3/5 k but I'm talking girls who consistently work as professional dancers or model / promo girls, not just any skinny chick wih some lipstick and bad makeup.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=Maila;2365315]I have an answer: one hour. 😁. That's 7000, just to clarify.[/QUOTE]Give online a go when you are actually in town and I'd expect much better outcomes. If it doesn't work for you just move to face to face options: discos and beer bars.
Sorry to say it but I do know several Indian guys that struggled online in Cebu. Nice guys but couldn't break through the stigma when the first thing the girls see is a brown face. Sucks I know but it's the truth. In a beer bar or disco the girls can see first hand that the cliches don't apply to you and your personality can do the talking not your skin color.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2365470]Normal price is 1500/3000 and some guys are getting cheaper. Seriously good looking girls might bump that to 3/5 k but I'm talking girls who consistently work as professional dancers or model / promo girls, not just any skinny chick wih some lipstick and bad makeup.
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Ah oke thanks for the info!
[QUOTE=Goferring;2365474]Give online a go when you are actually in town and I'd expect much better outcomes. If it doesn't work for you just move to face to face options: discos and beer bars.
Sorry to say it but I do know several Indian guys that struggled online in Cebu. Nice guys but couldn't break through the stigma when the first thing the girls see is a brown face. Sucks I know but it's the truth. In a beer bar or disco the girls can see first hand that the cliches don't apply to you and your personality can do the talking not your skin color.
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]That's probably it for the most part. Too bad PL doesn't have a switch to make your profile inactive (till I get there). I got a 28 yo MILF to agree to meet me and I got 2-3 fairly working girls on whatsapp.
Anyway, maybe I'll just book something for 3 days, and try to have another 3-4 days booked at a cancellable place in case I want to bail out. Maybe move to an upscale resort, go on hikes, lounge around, do a proper Cebu vacation. Life is still pretty good! .
I could try to go to a resort first for 3 days and get a lay of the land and then move to Cebu City. No chance of getting girls to come to resorts, right?
[QUOTE=Maila;2365653]That's probably it for the most part. Too bad PL doesn't have a switch to make your profile inactive (till I get there). . No chance of getting girls to come to resorts, right?[/QUOTE]It does: with in My Account you can either totally delete your account or make it invisible to others. Another trick the busy girls use when they need to slow down the inrush of messages is just to delete their profile pics. This dramatically reduces the level of interest.
Girls that live nearby will come to the resorts but you need to pick a good one: they are stand alone so there is very little to do there beyond what activities they have in house.
I wouldn't get too despondant. As I said, it's often much better when you are actually in town and the girls know you are a real opportunity, not just some one fishing for nudes or camsex. They hear 'I'm coming next month' a million times. And there are also the live options as a back up or you may even prefer them anyway.
Cheers. G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2365772]It does: with in My Account you can either totally delete your account or make it invisible to others.
Cheers. G.[/QUOTE]Oh, I thought what that did was make you appear offline but still list you on the website. I looked up help on PL but there is scant documentation on what it does. Since PL default to sorts by Last Active Date, I assumed it would list my profile at the very top still. I THINK what that can do is girls don't look at it again since they've already seen it weeks ago once. I suppose I could delete the picture and change the username.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2365772]It does: with in My Account you can either totally delete your account or make it invisible to others..[/QUOTE]Better to keep your profile ready and fresh. A "new" profile usually gets more hits than a face that has been online for weeks and hasn't chatted to the particular girl.
Girls deliberately go without pics, knowing that they can e the ones to settle on the guy. They can send pic in messages rather than advertise to the world.
Many girls doing this in AC where they don't want their sponsor to know.
PP.
[QUOTE=Maila;2365653].... No chance of getting girls to come to resorts, right?[/QUOTE]I'm not sure if that comment was meant to be sarcastic or not but the fact is that it is pretty easy to get girls to come to resorts to meet, you will have to put out airfare / travel costs and run a risk of a no show. You also run the risk of an incomparable girl showing up. Girls like that, you are spending money on them, they get a vacation and there is the chance that if you will spend all this on them that they will get a nice allowance and gifts for their time.
Better to get to meet the girl before paying the costs of the resort and travel only to find out that you are counting the hours until you can get rid of her.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2367363]I'm not sure if that comment was meant to be sarcastic or not but the fact is that it is pretty easy to get girls to come to resorts to meet, you will have to put out airfare / travel costs and run a risk of a no show. You also run the risk of an incomparable girl showing up. Girls like that, you are spending money on them, they get a vacation and there is the chance that if you will spend all this on them that they will get a nice allowance and gifts for their time.
Better to get to meet the girl before paying the costs of the resort and travel only to find out that you are counting the hours until you can get rid of her.[/QUOTE]Actually, it wasn't sarcastic but I meant something different. I wasn't looking to get girls in for a multiday vacation at resorts. I was wondering if resorts were girlfriendly and if they let in girls they knew to be working girls. I was thinking more on the lines of getting an online girl to come in for ST and its viability (distance, time, resorts letting them go to rooms, etc.).
[QUOTE=Maila;2368320]Actually, it wasn't sarcastic but I meant something different. I wasn't looking to get girls in for a multiday vacation at resorts. I was wondering if resorts were girlfriendly and if they let in girls they knew to be working girls. I was thinking more on the lines of getting an online girl to come in for ST and its viability (distance, time, resorts letting them go to rooms, etc.).[/QUOTE]How does the resort know the girl is a hooker? Resorts might restrict access to girls visiting you but if you check in with the girl there should be no issue. Age difference and other factors does not bother the resort.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2368408]How does the resort know the girl is a hooker? Resorts might restrict access to girls visiting you but if you check in with the girl there should be no issue. Age difference and other factors does not bother the resort.[/QUOTE]Not to be argumentative. Uhh. Lots of hotels don't let girls go. It's not 100% but age difference, different race, same girls coming in, dressing style, etc. I guess lots of hotels just impose generic restrictions on girls going to rooms. I was in particular wondering about girls not checking in together. Rather them coming in for a short time visit (day or night time).
[QUOTE=Maila;2368525]Not to be argumentative. Uhh. Lots of hotels don't let girls go. It's not 100% but age difference, different race, same girls coming in, dressing style, etc. I guess lots of hotels just impose generic restrictions on girls going to rooms. I was in particular wondering about girls not checking in together. Rather them coming in for a short time visit (day or night time).[/QUOTE]It also depends what you and the girl (s) want to do in the resort.
Many will turn a blind eye to what happens for one night behind closed doors. Frolicking around the pool for a week with Mrs Smith and the kidlets nearby would be a totally different prospect.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2364764]PL won't ban you for language. They will ban you if you get too many complaints. I've never been banned and I've asked far more brutal questions than those listed.[/QUOTE]If I have a bad, downhill, interaction with a girl online and if I am concerned she will report me I quickly block her. I may be wrong but I think that if she cannot get to my profile because she is blocked she cannot hit the report button. I am on FC and the language there on both sides of the conversation has sometimes been pretty raunchy, I was kicked off DIA twice for way less.
[QUOTE=ForkTruck;2368915]If I have a bad, downhill, interaction with a girl online and if I am concerned she will report me I quickly block her. I may be wrong but I think that if she cannot get to my profile because she is blocked she cannot hit the report button. I am on FC and the language there on both sides of the conversation has sometimes been pretty raunchy, I was kicked off DIA twice for way less.[/QUOTE]Good info! Thanks for the tip!
[QUOTE=Maila;2364495] What I don't get is all the masses of women saying they want marriage, serious LTR, etc. Are they just lying and are open to p2 p? Or they're just something else in their own minds. And what's the meeting protocol? Meet at mall first or call them directly to room? [/QUOTE]From my personal experience, don't worry about it. Most women in dating sites who said they are looking for serious relationship, marriage, soulmate, or whatever, they will have sex with you on the first date (most of them not all of them BTW), it all depends on you to make her comfortable, look natural and put her in the mood.
Always meet her in a place close to your hotel / condo, unless she invites herself to your place, in that case she is ready for sex, just make sure to ask her if she is a ladyboy or an escort. Those two questions I always ask them before I meet them, it saves me wasting time with the wrong woman, most girls are honest and will tell you the true and they don't get offended either, just say it in a nice way, because you were fool before or something like that, if you have doubts she is a ladyboy just ask her for a videocall, you should videocall them anyways before your meeting as much as you can, it helps if she sees you even if is just a 5 minutes talk like I usually do.
Of course if you are looking for freelancers then don't ask them if they are escorts, or maybe you should ask them in advance, not idea which one works better. In my case since I don't like freelancers in Philippines I have to ask them, to make sure they are not gold-diggers. You need to make sure to tell them that you don't pay for sex, that you are just looking to have a date and see where it leads, by date I mean meeting in a coffee shop or mall, then getting to know eachother for afew hours, and then straight to your condo / hotel, avoid spending too much money otherwise she will see you as a provider and she might be tempted to take advantage of you.
By the way, anybody going to Cebu on January for Sinulog 2020?
I will be in Philippines for 3 months, hopefully longer, starting in the second week of January. My first time going to Phils longer than 1 month!
Anybody want to grab a beer just send me a private message.
One question to the more experience travelers who stay long in Phils, how often do I need to get a visitors visa, I read is every 2 months. Is their a way I can get a visa for 6 months?
[QUOTE=SteveNash;2372776]
One question to the more experience travelers who stay long in Phils, how often do I need to get a visitors visa, I read is every 2 months. Is their a way I can get a visa for 6 months?[/QUOTE]The Philippines has to be one of the most visa friendly countries on earth. A tourist can extend up to 24 or 36 months depending on passport citizenship. There are formalities to follow but 6 months won't be a problem.
'I am a foreign national under a Temporary Visitor's Visa, I can stay legally in the Philippines for thirty (30) days however I want to extend my stay, how do I go about this?
Foreign nationals who are admitted with an initial stay of thirty (30) days may apply for a visa waiver first, granting an additional stay of twenty nine (29) in the Philippines. Thereafter, you may apply for one (1) month, two (2) months or six (6) months extensions at least one week prior to the expiration of your valid stay.
How long can I extend my in the Philippines?
Under Immigration Memorandum Circular No. SBM-2013-003, non-visa required national may extend their stay up to thirty six (36) months while visa required national may extend their stay up to twenty four (24) months.
Note: The said periods shall be counted from the date of the applicant's latest recorded arrival. '.
[URL]https://immigration.gov.ph/faqs/extensionofstay[/URL]
[QUOTE=Goferring;2363580]This is so true. If I or anyone I know is in a death spiral, my recommendation is to put pride aside and fuck something, anything just to get rid of the sense of desperation that everyone can notice. Once you have regained confidence, then you can refocus upon your priority girls.
Also, a wingman, preferably one who has been there before and knows his way around, can help considerably with a first trip to a city.
Bang, don't let one so so trip deter you because once you learn the lay of the land, cebu can be a great place to have some fun. I can name numerous cities where my second and subsequent visits were much better than my first.
If your next trip is to include diving try Alona, Moalboal or Malapascua towards the end of your stay. Only a couple of hours away and they can be used as a carrot to attract the right girl (s) to join you.
Thanks for your honest post.
Cheers. G.[/QUOTE]I agree with Goferring, if you are in a bad streak try to get rid off ASAP don't make it last longer than 1-2 days max, fuck the easy girl in your list to get your confidence back, sometimes even fucking the girl you fucked before it helps.
It happened to me once, I got 2 girls who cancel on me (both were shy and didn't want to meet alone) and another one we go out but she didn't want to come to my condo, she made up a lie that she was molested when she was young, I didn't believe her because she wasn't even molested just touch in the wrong way and she had trauma because of that. She wanted to go out again the next day but I took her out from my list right away. I felt I wasn't confident enough and I was in a bad mood because of the 2 girls that cancel me earlier (the shy ones), so that's why I couldn't get her to come to my condo.
So the next day early in the morning I call an old friend I had fucked in my last trip the year before, she works in Ayala Mall and luckily it was her dayoff, so she came straight to my condo we had sex and I got all the confidence I needed, so that night on my next date from my top list I was able to make her come to my condo, and I was back in track.
I learned the hard way that you may have bad days once a while, but you should get rid off it ASAP, at the beginning when I was a newbie on my first 2 trips I had 2 bad streaks that lasted 2-3 days each, the third one and last one I had it lasted only 1 day, because I fucked the girl from a past trip and she gave me the confidence I need it.
Just an advise, if you have girls who cancel on you because they are shy, just ignore them next time they chat you, go on the next girls from your list. Eventually some of those girls who were shy will be desperate to see you, and then is up to you if you want to see them again. You can make her feel guilty for canceling you, and they will be easier to bring back to your condo if you decide to see them.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2372786]The Philippines has to be one of the most visa friendly countries on earth. A tourist can extend up to 24 or 36 months depending on passport citizenship. There are formalities to follow but 6 months won't be a problem.
'I am a foreign national under a Temporary Visitor's Visa, I can stay legally in the Philippines for thirty (30) days however I want to extend my stay, how do I go about this?
Foreign nationals who are admitted with an initial stay of thirty (30) days may apply for a visa waiver first, granting an additional stay of twenty nine (29) in the Philippines. Thereafter, you may apply for one (1) month, two (2) months or six (6) months extensions at least one week prior to the expiration of your valid stay.
How long can I extend my in the Philippines?
Under Immigration Memorandum Circular No. SBM-2013-003, non-visa required national may extend their stay up to thirty six (36) months while visa required national may extend their stay up to twenty four (24) months.
Note: The said periods shall be counted from the date of the applicant's latest recorded arrival. '.
[URL]https://immigration.gov.ph/faqs/extensionofstay[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks for the info Goferring!
So before I go I need to apply for a visa waiver in Canada which will give me 2 months stay (from the first day I arrive). Then before the 2 months expire I can extend it to 6 months stay when I am in Philippines, right?
You know how much it is for 6 months stay?
[QUOTE=SteveNash;2372790]Thanks for the info Goferring!
So before I go I need to apply for a visa waiver in Canada which will give me 2 months stay (from the first day I arrive). Then before the 2 months expire I can extend it to 6 months stay when I am in Philippines, right?
You know how much it is for 6 months stay?[/QUOTE]I guess you can pre apply and pre pay for 2 months but I have always arrived, got a 30 day free VOA, then a few days before that expired got a 29 day extension etc in country. Any additional extensions require a ACR (Alien Certificate of Registration) but the process is similar.
Allow about 3000 p for each extension plus the ACR and check where the extensions can be done near you. The regional offices are much faster and less stress. I'm normally in and out of Battangas in 15 minutes.
Cheers. G.
[QUOTE=SteveNash;2372776]By the way, anybody going to Cebu on January for Sinulog 2020?
One question to the more experience travelers who stay long in Phils, how often do I need to get a visitors visa, I read is every 2 months. Is their a way I can get a visa for 6 months?[/QUOTE]Sinulog for me is a time to avoid Cebu. Hotel prices rise three / four fold and even the most terrible rat infested place asks lots for a room.
I been to Cebu and live there but I am never around for Sinulog.
As for the visa extension. G offered sound advice.
You can also go to J Mall in Mandaue and there you will find on the top floor a BI office where a lots of foreigners go to get another month or more on their visa status. Go early, have the form filled in with a passport picture and that speeds the process. I would park the car around 815 am and get there very early so I was one of the first in the queue.
I used to use this form (see link) to extend my stay.
[URL]http://immigration.gov.ph/images/FORMS/VariousApplicationsForms/CGAF%20for%20Tourist%20Visa%20Extension.pdf[/URL]
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2373240]Sinulog for me is a time to avoid Cebu. Hotel prices rise three / four fold and even the most terrible rat infested place asks lots for a room.
I been to Cebu and live there but I am never around for Sinulog.
You can also go to J Mall in Mandaue and there you will find on the top floor a BI office where a lots of foreigners go to get another month or more on their visa status. Go early, have the form filled in with a passport picture and that speeds the process. I would park the car around 815 am and get there very early so I was one of the first in the queue.
[URL]http://immigration.gov.ph/images/FORMS/VariousApplicationsForms/CGAF%20for%20Tourist%20Visa%20Extension.pdf[/URL][/QUOTE]There are BI offices also in many provinces. The Visa Extension form is correct, and you can also grab one in any BI office and fill it out right there. Using the initial 2-month pre-applied Visa has an advantage: your first visa extension can be longer than 29 days (as in 59 days). If you get an initial 30-day VOA (Visa on Arrival), your first extension will be for just 29 days (59 days or longer on later extensions). Besides having a copy of your passport photo-page, also have a copy of your most recent inbound-stamp page.
After 59 days in-country, you may be required to apply for an Alien Resident (ACR) eye-dee card, whether you want it or not. It takes a month to arrive (must pick it up in the same office, if you even desire it), and its good for a year. It looks a bit like your driver's license. Cost is about 4 k, and you will need to provide 2 new pics of yourself.
Have never applied for a 6-month stay, so can't say the cost. Cost for the 59-day extenstions are: 1-hour passport pickup service is about 4 k, and they offer a 3-day pickup service for 3 k (prices were 1 k cheaper until my renewal this past June).
Sinulog. I airbnb'd looking for a place both at Horizon's Residence (along the parade route) and also the Ayala area, including at places I've stayed in the past, and there is no difference in prices at the time of Sinulog next January than there is now (or my previous stays). I got a studio unit (have stayed in that Residence before) for 2 weeks (one week before and after Sinulog) at under $25/ night, 3 blocks from Ayala. Traffic sucks (even worse) during a festival, so I plan to walk everywhere (walking keeps the juices flowing for the next pinay).
Pic below previously posted in the PG is in that studio unit. She loved holding hands and walking with me over to Ayala to grocery shop in the Metro, then cook for me, f*ck me, then wash the dishes and clean the place while I napped after the bonk. Had trouble getting her to go home when girl #2 was on her way over. The things you have to put up with from the Cebuanas: Prepare yourself!
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2373541]Sinulog. I airbnb'd looking for a place both at Horizon's Residence (along the parade route) and also the Ayala area, including at places I've stayed in the past, and there is no difference in prices at the time of Sinulog next January than there is now (or my previous stays). I got a studio unit (have stayed in that Residence before) for 2 weeks (one week before and after Sinulog) at under $25/ night, 3 blocks from Ayala. Traffic sucks (even worse) during a festival, so I plan to walk everywhere (walking keeps the juices flowing for the next pinay).![/QUOTE]I have never Airbnb in the Philippines. Horizon I know and is small. Is also the one which sort of fell down (partially) some time back. Westie what were you doing there LOL.
Hotel prices will rise for sure but if was a condo owner I would keep same prices as that way you can get customers easier and maybe seek a LT one week payment.
For me Sinulog is a time to avoid me being a gentle sensitive soul but YMMV as we say and some love it.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2373541]There are BI offices also in many provinces. The Visa Extension form is correct, and you can also grab one in any BI office and fill it out right there. Using the initial 2-month pre-applied Visa has an advantage: your first visa extension can be longer than 29 days (as in 59 days). If you get an initial 30-day VOA (Visa on Arrival), your first extension will be for just 29 days (59 days or longer on later extensions). Besides having a copy of your passport photo-page, also have a copy of your most recent inbound-stamp page.
After 59 days in-country, you may be required to apply for an Alien Resident (ACR) eye-dee card, whether you want it or not. It takes a month to arrive (must pick it up in the same office, if you even desire it), and its good for a year. It looks a bit like your driver's license. Cost is about 4 k, and you will need to provide 2 new pics of yourself.
Have never applied for a 6-month stay, so can't say the cost. Cost for the 59-day extenstions are: 1-hour passport pickup service is about 4 k, and they offer a 3-day pickup service for 3 k (prices were 1 k cheaper until my renewal this past June).
Sinulog. I airbnb'd looking for a place both at Horizon's Residence (along the parade route) and also the Ayala area, including at places I've stayed in the past, and there is no difference in prices at the time of Sinulog next January than there is now (or my previous stays). I got a studio unit (have stayed in that Residence before) for 2 weeks (one week before and after Sinulog) at under $25/ night, 3 blocks from Ayala. Traffic sucks (even worse) during a festival, so I plan to walk everywhere (walking keeps the juices flowing for the next pinay).
Pic below previously posted in the PG is in that studio unit. She loved holding hands and walking with me over to Ayala to grocery shop in the Metro, then cook for me, f*ck me, then wash the dishes and clean the place while I napped after the bonk. Had trouble getting her to go home when girl #2 was on her way over. The things you have to put up with from the Cebuanas: Prepare yourself![/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice WestCoast1, 4 k for the Alien Resident is not bad at all! I will get the 59-day extension here in Canada before I travel.
About the condo, I already book a nice condo for a month in Airbnb, price was abit more than the rest of the year, instead of saving 35% I will only save 15% during Sinulog.
Condo has pool and gym and all the amenities I exactly need. Only problem is that is not close to Ayala Mall or Fuente Osmena, but still is a 15 minutes bike ride to Ayala Mall my friend said.
So basically during Sinulog I will do the bike ride to Ayala Mall and then walk to Fuente Osmena. One question how many minutes takes to walk from Ayala Mall to Fuente Osmena?
Thanks guys for all your help about the visa.
[QUOTE=SteveNash;2374138]Thanks for the advice WestCoast1, 4 k for the Alien Resident is not bad at all! I will get the 59-day extension here in Canada before I travel.
About the condo, I already book a nice condo for a month in Airbnb, price was abit more than the rest of the year, instead of saving 35% I will only save 15% during Sinulog.
Condo has pool and gym and all the amenities I exactly need. Only problem is that is not close to Ayala Mall or Fuente Osmena, but still is a 15 minutes bike ride to Ayala Mall my friend said.
So basically during Sinulog I will do the bike ride to Ayala Mall and then walk to Fuente Osmena. One question how many minutes takes to walk from Ayala Mall to Fuente Osmena?
Thanks guys for all your help about the visa.[/QUOTE]Make sure the condo has good WiFi as many advertise it is but then you find not. OF not get a pocket WiFi from Smart or Globe as this is the best option.
Walk? You sure as hot and sticky for many and you could end up being a sweaty mess fast LOL.
Use a taxi as very cheap or similar. Either way is better than walking. I have never walked that far ever in Cebu as easier to taxi (I never Jeepney ever!) but I would say 20-30 minutes depending on route and how long you stop to dry off the sweat LOL.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2374162]
Walk? You sure as hot and sticky for many and you could end up being a sweaty mess fast LOL.
[/QUOTE]This is why laundries/washers are a must have for my AirBnBs in Cebu. If I'm out and about around town I can easily go through 2 or 3 sets of clothes per day.
Cheers. G.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2374162]Make sure the condo has good WiFi as many advertise it is but then you find not. OF not get a pocket WiFi from Smart or Globe as this is the best option.
.......[/QUOTE]Pocket WiFi? Is that another name for using your phone as a hotspot?
I had a pocket WiFi that offered 4 G before I had a phone that had 4 G capabilities. That is about the only advantage I see to these devices. I might get a 5 G one if 5 G is generally available before I buy a 5 G phone.
I get 4 G on my phone, only have one sim to worry about keeping topped up and one device to keep charged. When I want to use the net from my phone it is right there and if I need to use my laptop I simply turn on the hotspot.
[QUOTE=SteveNash;2374138]Only problem is that is not close to Ayala Mall or Fuente Osmena, but still is a 15 minutes bike ride to Ayala Mall my friend said.[/QUOTE]I'm a touch confused by that (bike ride). Did your friend mean riding a bicycle? Or alternately, did he mean you will take a paid motorcycle, similar to taxi or tryke, sometimes referred to as a 'habal-habal'? Or alternately, you will rent your own motorcycle for your time in Cebu? My feeling is that you meant to ride a bicycle, which is never done by anyone in Cebu (or alternately rarely seen in Phils). The streets are both too crowded with vehicles, and both the streets and sidewalks are seriously broken (cement cracks. So many, so large) that riding a bike is not really part of the equation.
[QUOTE=SteveNash;2374138]So basically during Sinulog I will do the bike ride to Ayala Mall and then walk to Fuente Osmena. One question how many minutes takes to walk from Ayala Mall to Fuente Osmena?[/QUOTE]I walk from Ayala to Robinson's / Fuente (or vice versa, one way only, not round-trip) 1 or 2 times most weeks (I like to walk), usually after sundown or early morning. WR is correct, at any time of day or year, in any weather, be prepared to be a hot sticky mess just 90 seconds into that walk (that would be the idea for me). The distance is approximately 1800 meters, or about 1 mile, or 1. 8 KM. This distance is driving or walking distance, not as the crow flies. From Ayala to Robinson's Fuente (there is more than one Robinson's in Cebu city), streets would be: departing Ayala, a few blocks down Archbishop Reyes (also called Ayala street) to Gorordo Street (turn left), go a few more blocks down to General Maxilom street (turn right), then the long walk on Maxilom to Robinson's. On your left on Maxilom, you will pass along the way the Viking's group of gogo bars (see Planet X), Fooda grocery store on your right, Vienna Italian resto on the left, and Mango Square (both sides of the road, a series of bars with live entertainment, including Marshal's Irish Pub), then finally the overpass with Robinson's on the left and the Fuente Circle. My time-on-task for my slow / medium walk (lazy) is 20-22 minutes, and my more normal faster walk (to sweat) is 15-16 minutes. On more than one occasion in the late afternoon or early evening, I have beaten traffic going along side of me headed from Robinson's to Ayala (full disclosure: its closer to walk from Robinson's to Ayala than it is to take a jeep, as the jeep must travel farther to get to the PUV terminal at the rear of Ayala than my walking into the closer entrance on Archbishop Reyes St). I don't recommend this walk to anyone. One reason is the sidewalk is right against the street, where there are not only cars in the right lane in the near-constant rush-hour-like traffic, but also the motorcycles weave in / out in the right lane and use the far right side as their own lane, often brushing by as I'm walking (soooo close). Take a taxi or Uber, the cost is about $2.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2374375]Pocket WiFi? Is that another name for using your phone as a hotspot?
I had a pocket WiFi that offered 4 G before I had a phone that had 4 G capabilities. That is about the only advantage I see to these devices. I might get a 5 G one if 5 G is generally available before I buy a 5 G phone.
I get 4 G on my phone, only have one sim to worry about keeping topped up and one device to keep charged. When I want to use the net from my phone it is right there and if I need to use my laptop I simply turn on the hotspot.[/QUOTE]Both work on the same technology: cell tower data. Both must be 'loaded'. Neither is better or faster than the other. A cell phone with 4 g (or faster, such as LTE) speed is effectively a pocket wifi. One reason you will see pinoy with both a cell phone and a pocket wifi is that their cheap Cherry Mobile (or such) phone is 3 g-only, while the pocket wifi is 4 g. The difference between 3 g and 4 g is not that much, but its the difference between web browsing (3 g) slowly, and streaming (4 g and faster).
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2374504]Both work on the same technology: cell tower data. Both must be 'loaded'. Neither is better or faster than the other. A cell phone with 4 g (or faster, such as LTE) speed is effectively a pocket wifi. One reason you will see pinoy with both a cell phone and a pocket wifi is that their cheap Cherry Mobile (or such) phone is 3 g-only, while the pocket wifi is 4 g. The difference between 3 g and 4 g is not that much, but its the difference between web browsing (3 g) slowly, and streaming (4 g and faster).[/QUOTE]Addendum that might be more applicable to the OP and condo wifi. I have found that in the last 2 years in Cebu city, condo-provided Internet service thru an ISP (ie, PLDT, duh) has considerably improved. Its rare that I get any download speeds slower than 10 mbps, with 20 being more typical. Consistent download speeds of 4 mbps are usually fast enough to stream -- key word: 'consistent'. Manila condos are often in the 20-50 mbps these days. However condo's out in the provinces, even with PLDT, are often in the 4-5 mbps arena (some such airbnb owners now advertise 'streaming Netflix' speeds). When airbnb-shopping, I contact the owner / caretaker in advance to ask about this. They rarely have any good answer to MBPS, but they know if their Internet wifi will stream Youtube and Netflix, and they will tell you if it is 'unlimited' or not. If not, its usually a Globe pre-paid pocket wifi. I decline any owner who says they will pay for the first few GB of data and the customer will load it after (that ain't 'unli' and its a good indication that they don't have a fiber, DSL, or cable hookup.
Having said that, I cannot say that Cebu hotel Internet speeds have improved, as the condo explosion caused me to run from Cebu hotels. I can get a condo studio unit along Maxilom (near Mango Park) or Ayala for under $25/ night with full kitchen and streaming Internet, or a 1-bedroom unit for about $35-$40/ night. Who needs a hotel in Cebu? The only advantage to a hotel that I can see is that they clean the room daily. Hell, I have cebuanas for that.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2374488]I walk from Ayala to Robinson's / Fuente (or vice versa, one way only, not round-trip) 1 or 2 times most weeks (I like to walk), usually after sundown or early morning. WR is correct, at any time of day or year, in any weather, be prepared to be a hot sticky mess just 90 seconds into that walk (that would be the idea for me). [/QUOTE]Added addendum: The route I mentioned is not necessarily the shortest.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2374488]I'm a touch confused by that (bike ride). Did your friend mean riding a bicycle? Or alternately, did he mean you will take a paid motorcycle, similar to taxi or tryke, sometimes referred to as a 'habal-habal'? Or alternately, you will rent your own motorcycle for your time in Cebu? My feeling is that you meant to ride a bicycle, which is never done by anyone in Cebu (or alternately rarely seen in Phils). The streets are both too crowded with vehicles, and both the streets and sidewalks are seriously broken (cement cracks. So many, so large) that riding a bike is not really part of the equation.[/QUOTE]She meant motorbike, you know like Grab they have Angkas app for motorbikes.
I always take Grab (BTW there was no more Uber last time I was there in June and July of this year, only Grab).
The only reason I will get a motorbike instead of taxi or grab is because they told me that during Sinulog they close the streets and is better and faster to go to the parade with motorbike. The other days of course I will take taxi or Grab.
[QUOTE]I walk from Ayala to Robinson's / Fuente (or vice versa, one way only, not round-trip) 1 or 2 times most weeks (I like to walk), usually after sundown or early morning. WR is correct, at any time of day or year, in any weather, be prepared to be a hot sticky mess just 90 seconds into that walk (that would be the idea for me). The distance is approximately 1800 meters, or about 1 mile, or 1. 8 KM. This distance is driving or walking distance, not as the crow flies. From Ayala to Robinson's Fuente (there is more than one Robinson's in Cebu city), streets would be: departing Ayala, a few blocks down Archbishop Reyes (also called Ayala street) to Gorordo Street (turn left), go a few more blocks down to General Maxilom street (turn right), then the long walk on Maxilom to Robinson's. On your left on Maxilom, you will pass along the way the Viking's group of gogo bars (see Planet X), Fooda grocery store on your right, Vienna Italian resto on the left, and Mango Square (both sides of the road, a series of bars with live entertainment, including Marshal's Irish Pub), then finally the overpass with Robinson's on the left and the Fuente Circle. My time-on-task for my slow / medium walk (lazy) is 20-22 minutes, and my more normal faster walk (to sweat) is 15-16 minutes. On more than one occasion in the late afternoon or early evening, I have beaten traffic going along side of me headed from Robinson's to Ayala (full disclosure: its closer to walk from Robinson's to Ayala than it is to take a jeep, as the jeep must travel farther to get to the PUV terminal at the rear of Ayala than my walking into the closer entrance on Archbishop Reyes St). I don't recommend this walk to anyone. One reason is the sidewalk is right against the street, where there are not only cars in the right lane in the near-constant rush-hour-like traffic, but also the motorcycles weave in / out in the right lane and use the far right side as their own lane, often brushing by as I'm walking (soooo close). Take a taxi or Uber, the cost is about $2.[/QUOTE]Cool!
1. 8 km is not much, I'm also a fast walker so 15 minutes of walking is not bad in a hot weather, remember this is only during the Sinulog parade, the other days I will take taxi.
I'm planning to do jogging 3 times a week anyways, but not much 5 to 6 km only, and it will be in the jogging path inside the condo.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2374162]Make sure the condo has good WiFi as many advertise it is but then you find not. OF not get a pocket WiFi from Smart or Globe as this is the best option.[/QUOTE]The condo has High Speed Internet, the ethernet connection is really fast the owner told me that I can watch Netflix without a problem.
Great internet connection is a must for me since I will be working on my laptop alot. I do have 2 pocket wifi, the tattoo is an old one I think only 3 G, but the last one I bought this year is a LTE Globe Mobile WiFi with speeds of up to 42 Mbps.
Like WestCoast1 mention, I find the internet connection of the condos I stay in Philippines faster than my pocket Wifi.
I do agree with Goferring that a condo with laundries / washers is a must during summer.
That's why I love this condo, it has great Internet connection, Dryer / Washer, nice kitchen with microwave, pool / gym, hot water, big TV with cable channels, Queen bed, Electricity / water included, it has everything I'm looking for, and it only cost me 900 php per night for 1 month rent. Very cheap if you consider that I will stay during Sinulog month when condos are very expensive.
[QUOTE=SteveNash;2374777]I do agree with Goferring that a condo with laundries / washers is a must during summer.
That's why I love this condo, it has great Internet connection, Dryer / Washer, nice kitchen with microwave, pool / gym, hot water, big TV with cable channels, Queen bed, Electricity / water included, it has everything I'm looking for, and it only cost me 900 php per night for 1 month rent. Very cheap if you consider that I will stay during Sinulog month when condos are very expensive.[/QUOTE]For reference to all, behind the PUV terminal at Ayala, are Mandarin Plaza and Quest hotels. They run along Escario street, 1 block from Ayala. About 1 block up on Escario street (west, towards Fuente) on the right side are two laundries, almost side by side (there is a small resto between them specializing in coffee and treats). One of those laundries is 24 hour service, the other (closer to Ayala) offers 4 hour service for p160 for up to 3 kg of laundry. Perfect for a bloody bedsheet. Another block or two up is Trillium Residences (google map the location), where I have stayed before (love the location and price). Will also stay in the area at Sinulog in a condo for p1100/ night (see PG, page 3, #9433, enjoy). Also there is another laundry location, inside Ayala, just next to the Rustan's entrance at the parking garage downstairs, p35/ kilo. I was using the faster laundry on Escario, I'd drop off a 3 kg load at 9 am, and usually by 12:30 pm it would be done when I stopped back (two block walk).
Also for reference, there was a laudrette in the Raintree Mall, on F Rama St, across from Robinson's Fuente (one block up on Rama). Its inside the same mall with Bo's Coffee, in the back. Also there is a dentist there (p500 for cleaning).
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2374784]Another block or two up is Trillium Residences (google map the location), where I have stayed before (love the location and price). Will also stay in the area at Sinulog in a condo for p1100/ night (see PG, page 3, #9433, enjoy). [/QUOTE]I agree on the Trillium's good price and location but do any of them have washers? Mine didn't and the laundry on the ground floor isn't 24 hrs, has a 4 kg minimum and, running up and down every couple of days is a major PITA when you pack as light as I do.
Cheers. G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2374791]I agree on the Trillium's good price and location but do any of them have washers? Mine didn't and the laundry on the ground floor isn't 24 hrs, has a 4 kg minimum and, running up and down every couple of days is a major PITA when you pack as light as I do.[/QUOTE]Answer: Have rarely experienced a washing machine in a studio unit, anywhere in phils (twice, once Malate and once Makati, both on the balcony). No dryer; if you wash a sheet, it will spin dry modestly well, but then you have to have somewhere (inside or on the balcony) to hang it to continue drying -- better to take sheets to a lavanderia. OTOH, looked recently at a 1-bedroom unit that had both washer and dryer inside (plenty of room). I pack with 10 days of clothing (not necessarily 10 pieces of everything), so I might jaunt to the laundry every 6-8 days. I have also found that if you can wait a full 24 hours to get your clothes back, most laundries will pick up / drop off your clothes. Other answer: I have regulars in all of my joy-towns. Almost every single girl has volunteered to take my laundry home and bring back the next day (if she lives in the same town), and they never ask more than the going laundry rates, sometimes less. Example, I mentioned the laundry on Escario that works for p160. One of my regular cebuanas will also take it home in the morning and bring it in the evening. Her roomates have a washer, and the neighbor has a dryer. She will give both of them money to use the machine. "Just you give to me 100". Done. "See you tonight 8 pm Westy. Can we Mango Square tonight?" Depends sweetie, how clean and well-folded those clothes are when you get back. Now shake that cute ass down to the jeepney. See you at 8.
[QUOTE=SteveNash;2374777]The condo has High Speed Internet, the ethernet connection is really fast the owner told me that I can watch Netflix without a problem.
Great internet connection is a must for me since I will be working on my laptop alot. I do have 2 pocket wifi, the tattoo is an old one I think only 3 G, but the last one I bought this year is a LTE Globe Mobile WiFi with speeds of up to 42 Mbps.
Like WestCoast1 mention, I find the internet connection of the condos I stay in Philippines faster than my pocket Wifi.
I do agree with Goferring that a condo with laundries / washers is a must during summer.
That's why I love this condo, it has great Internet connection, Dryer / Washer, nice kitchen with microwave, pool / gym, hot water, big TV with cable channels, Queen bed, Electricity / water included, it has everything I'm looking for, and it only cost me 900 php per night for 1 month rent. Very cheap if you consider that I will stay during Sinulog month when condos are very expensive.[/QUOTE]How's sinulog? Worth it to check out Cebu during that time? I'm landing in mnl on 1/10 and was curious how the mongering is in Cebu during Sinulog. Any info is appreciated.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2374837]Answer: Have rarely experienced a washing machine in a studio unit, anywhere in phils (twice, once Malate and once Makati, both on the balcony). .....[/QUOTE]I have seen a few on Airbnb, I will look for them if possible.
Some washers do not spin, clothes come out dripping wet and take long time to dry.
Some will spin only, not bad light stuff is almost wearable, drying time can be a couple hours in the sun for jeans.
Some have air dry, basically a slow spin with air blown through the drum, they will dry but expect about 4 hours to finish.
Only one Airbnb with full dryer, wash to dry in about 90 minutes.
Also beware most condos have rules about drying clothes outside of visible from outside. The enforcement is sporadic like the enforcement of all rules here, rich foreigners can afford the fines, poor locals need to dry their clothes somehow so the property managers pick on the ones who will pay the fines and let the locals go.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2375364]Also beware most condos have rules about drying clothes outside of visible from outside. The enforcement is sporadic like the enforcement of all rules here, rich foreigners can afford the fines, poor locals need to dry their clothes somehow so the property managers pick on the ones who will pay the fines and let the locals go.[/QUOTE]I never bother washing my own clothes in Cebu (or other cites in the Philippines). I just use the laundries. I go to a favourite and can have it back same day. I pay a small taxi fare and for me is so much easier than washing / drying etc.
The cost is minimal IMHO and the hassle less than ding things yourself.
[QUOTE=SethMacfarlane;2374960]How's sinulog? Worth it to check out Cebu during that time? I'm landing in mnl on 1/10 and was curious how the mongering is in Cebu during Sinulog. Any info is appreciated.[/QUOTE]Some of us have 45 yrs of Cebu and sinulog. You say "hows Sinulog". Sorry, I can not tell you, cause you do not have Private Message facility. My info would be interesting reading for you, but not necessarily others. Get PM facility. That is, spend twenty dollars (for PM).
WR. How am I going? Your an inspiration. Thought I would join in too, LOL.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2375444]I never bother washing my own clothes in Cebu (or other cites in the Philippines). I just use the laundries. I go to a favourite and can have it back same day. I pay a small taxi fare and for me is so much easier than washing / drying etc.
The cost is minimal IMHO and the hassle less than ding things yourself.[/QUOTE]35 pesos per kilo. Too expensive?
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2375677]35 pesos per kilo. Too expensive?[/QUOTE]Yes so expensive it kills the budget of some people LOL (and why bother when so cheap, save energy for better things?
Never had a bad experience of using laundries and some don't have a minimum amount / charge. Maybe I am lucky as I use the same one a lot and as they know me I get the service. Also took one pair jeans in and they washed and pressed in the same day (and repaired a minor issue) same day. Never asked them to repair the hole in the jeans but they did.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2375444]
The cost is minimal IMHO and the hassle less than ding things yourself.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2375677]35 pesos per kilo. Too expensive?[/QUOTE]I'm the opposite: by the time I walk / taxi to the laundromat I'm so drenched that its time for another load. LOL.
I also pack very lightly so a 4 or 5 kg minimum can be literally all my clothes. And I prefer to walk rather than drive most places. Hence my comment about 2 or 3 sets of clothes per day.
Regardless of cost (I'm sure I don't save any money) I just find it easier to throw a load in to wash while I'm doing other things rather than trapsing around town.
Who would have thought that a post about doing the washing would have been so popular. 😀.
Cheers. G.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2374837]Answer: Have rarely experienced a washing machine in a studio unit, anywhere in phils (twice, once Malate and once Makati, both on the balcony). [/QUOTE]Westie, I jumped on AirBnB to answer my own question and several condos in Trillium specifically, and the Ayala area generally, now do have washers and some dryers as well. Even down to the $30 per night places.
I guess they are now becoming more of a standard inclusion unlike not so long ago. Look for photos of washer / dryers or desrcriptions of 'in the appartment' not just 'in the building, free or for a fee'.
Cheers. G.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2375677]35 pesos per kilo. Too expensive?[/QUOTE]That's about right for a ST. LT, you might need to bump it up a little. 😁.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2375692]I'm the opposite: by the time I walk / taxi to the laundromat I'm so drenched that its time for another load. LOL.
Hence my comment about 2 or 3 sets of clothes per day.
G.[/QUOTE]Just means you sweat a lot G. Some of only really sweat when in the job LOL.
Hi guys,
Spent 8 glorious days on this beautiful island (well it's beautiful outside Cebu City). Night one late arrival stayed at Islands Stay a real cheap bare bones place near Mactan airport. I left a guitar there last time which I picked up after paying the ransom. Supposed to meet a Cupid chick there but the poor dear did not have a cell phone so I could not tell her my plane was late. Cebu Pacilfic and PAL are always late. On to Cebu City days 3 and 4 to Diplomat Hotel on Ramos. Across the street is sportsbar 301 Ramos which will play NFL games if you ask (even at 8:20 AM). The Filipina owner and filipina bartenders are very nice. There are some cute ones that work there, too, but they don't get off til 2 AM so I did not wait up. Also did not go to the Mango bars as they have become expensive like Makati. Met a cupid chick chubby but Cee Cup tits who gave great blowjobs, massages and has a real tight pussy. On to Dalaguete South Cebu days 5 and 6 to Ocean Bay Resort which is real quiet and has beautiful, covered pool. Diving if you are into that. Supposed to take a busty Cebuana a taxi driver set me up with but she was ill so I went solo. Rented a motorbike which was fun. Met some Americans staying at or near OB resort and one guy told me about place to get girls in Dalaguete two streets south of OB on right but all the girls were in school -- University of Visayas right there in Dalaguete. Gold mine! At the hotel a worker fetched a local girl whose age I will not say who stayed with me til midnight until her mama came knocking at my door. Yikes. Narrow escape. Earlier in the day I bought her a 5 K phone she wanted in lieu of cash for school. Later the little minx tried to extort more pisos from me for school but I said no, sell the phone, get a cheaper one and use the balance for school. Also met another cute young one walking along the road with her mama. Got her digits and have been exchanging messages on whatsapp. Will meet her next year when she is legal. Yummy. Back to Cebu City Mandarin Hotel and met up with an old flame who I did not fuck but she set me up with her girlfriend who I did. The three of us dined at New Orleans bar top floor Ayala where they have good food and nice live music. The musicians let me play a set, too, and no one booed or left haha. Then we went to A's Place about 20 minutes from Ayala up on a hill panoramic view of the region at night. Very nice. One more night in Lapu at Bella Vista. Went to Islands Mall nearby to try to get some local snatch because it was too early for the casas. Followed three Cebuanas there in uniform there who turned out to be English teachers and had dinner with them. Two were cute, one had a nice figure, and the older one turned out to be a cock-blocker which is a common dynamic in packs of girls. The ugly one does not want the pretty ones (s) to get some dick so they are somewhat condescending to the male suitor. Nevertheless got the pretty, sexy one's digits and will pursue her next time. Probably could have fucked her that night if not for the cockblocker. I love Cebu and am happy to see some Americans happily living there in the south with their beautiful Cebuana girlfriends. Cheers.
Reached Cebu from Yangon. Had chatted with many on DIA. A chubby cute girl after pleading with me to have fun with me because she wants to buy school supplies to her siblings. No reply two days prior to arrival.
Had arranged a procurer with two kids to bring a girl and meet me. They arrived on time. Girl was okay but hotel mandarin will not accept her I. D
Something like health insurance card. She said she will bring another one but I give only one chance to get it right.
Next white looking flat chested (pic attached) cannot stay the night because one kid at home.
Was chatting with a teacher and she was messaging me left and right about meeting. This one also cannot stay because very strict mother. According her her mother said only bald girls stay out and date foreigners because foreigners have disease still unknown to scientific community and will make her sick. She gets off at 9 pm and can stay till 1 am. Sweet girl with big boobs. In one day two extreme difference in bodies. (pic attached) Unlike previous one this one was horny and had four sessions. Squeezed the hell out of her melons which D Cup would be proud of. I am the first foreigner for her and she claims she was raped by her Philippine BF when she was 17. Whatever!
Next day wanted a girl who stay the night. Found a 20 year old who came to look for job from Comotes island. Not a great looker but firm medium boobs, no kids but shy. She just wanted to fuck many times which I am happy to oblige. Took her for dinner at Ayala. She said she has a beautiful 18 year old sister and can stay with me but she is not in Cebu. Gone are the days waiting for pussy to arrive from province. Girl left after breakfast.
As usual my days are spent getting massage and body treatments.
After a nice rest texted big boobs. Asked her if she can stay the night. But her mother declined but this time she can stay till 3 am. Still horny and sex many times cannot get enough of big boobs.
Off to Angeles.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2383164]Reached Cebu from Yangon. Had chatted with many on DIA. A chubby cute girl after pleading with me to have fun with me because she wants to buy school supplies to her siblings. No reply two days prior to arrival.
Had arranged a procurer with two kids to bring a girl and meet me. They arrived on time. Girl was okay but hotel mandarin will not accept her I. D
Something like health insurance card. She said she will bring another one but I give only one chance to get it right.
Next white looking flat chested (pic attached) cannot stay the night because one kid at home.
Was chatting with a teacher and she was messaging me left and right about meeting. This one also cannot stay because very strict mother. According her her mother said only bald girls stay out and date foreigners because foreigners have disease still unknown to scientific community and will make her sick. She gets off at 9 pm and can stay till 1 am. Sweet girl with big boobs. In one day two extreme difference in bodies. (pic attached) Unlike previous one this one was horny and had four sessions..[/QUOTE]Salmon,
Thanks for the share. If you have PM and are willing I'd happily take your references for the titty gal or others you are willing to share. That 20 yo and her sis sound like a good investment too.
Thanks and looking forward to the PM. Did you have any luck at other places or updates. I am starting to work PL and such but looking and think more of Mango go-gos and FL at Ayala too.
I arrived this morning and am headed to Cebu in about an hour from Manila. Definitely endorse PL. It's like shooting fish in a barrel. Some of the gals try to lock you down quick and have a small handful upset that I won't let them.
Arranged for a pickup and escort to hotel from a local contact. She was on YouTube and at the least will show me around the city today and maybe a pretour pop as I drop off my bags. I could use a good scrub as well from the airplane funk.
Will update as it goes but it does look like there is plenty of talent and selection and I haven't even been on the ground yet.
[QUOTE=Dang2000;2388074]I arrived this morning and am headed to Cebu in about an hour from Manila. Definitely endorse PL. It's like shooting fish in a barrel. Some of the gals try to lock you down quick and have a small handful upset that I won't let them.
Arranged for a pickup and escort to hotel from a local contact. She was on YouTube and at the least will show me around the city today and maybe a pretour pop as I drop off my bags. I could use a good scrub as well from the airplane funk.
Will update as it goes but it does look like there is plenty of talent and selection and I haven't even been on the ground yet.[/QUOTE]Have fun Dang.
But. Remember to have Plan A / B/ C etc as some will not show despite saying they will. Some will be 2 + hours from where you and be late (many pinays have no concept of punctuality).
IMHO I would not have had any cutie meet me at the airport as this could hand cuff you to this girl longer than you want and / or you don't like her when you see her and / or she brings family or friends. Either way you are stuck but soon you will know and hope is not a train wreck.
What YouTube video can you share as I know a few who post there.
Short time no questions room anyone help?
[QUOTE=ColLaw;2390329]Short time no questions room anyone help?[/QUOTE]Travellers Resthouse, it's a budget s / t hotel with rooms priced at about p200 per hour, it's near Robinson's Galleria on J. De Veyra St, on the l / h side of the road about 30 metres from the Central Nautical Hwy / Gen Maxilom Ave stop light.
I have used it numerous times, never had any hassles or problems. ID has never been asked for.
[QUOTE=ColLaw;2390329]Short time no questions room anyone help?[/QUOTE]Queensland. There are 2 but I use the one in Banilad as slightly better quality bed etc.
Last couple of pages have been mostly about apps and mango and Ayala area, can I get some recent info if anyone has on the local bars, GRO scene still around? Smaller beer houses used to have them but that was years ago.
Tried hastily creating a pl profile this morning using one of my backup phones and accidentally drop called a client and sent the login request to their number within a minute of each other. Not sure how I'll explain that one. Fuck.
[QUOTE=Goons;2391168]Last couple of pages have been mostly about apps and mango and Ayala area, can I get some recent info if anyone has on the local bars, GRO scene still around? Smaller beer houses used to have them but that was years ago.[/QUOTE]The Mango gogo bars are still up / running. On Maxilom, about 1 km east from Mango Square (Robinson's Fuente). Called the 'Vikings' group of bars because one of them is called Vikings (Eric the Red bar is next door). About 6 gogo bars on the south side of Maxilom Ave, across the street from the INC church. Across the street from those gogo bars and next to the church are several more gogo bars (more expensive I believe). Plenty of GRO's to choose from.
Go bust some buns and report back.
[QUOTE=Mdemde;2390362]Travellers Resthouse, it's a budget s / t hotel with rooms priced at about p200 per hour, it's near Robinson's Galleria on J. De Veyra St, on the l / h side of the road about 30 metres from the Central Nautical Hwy / Gen Maxilom Ave stop light.
I have used it numerous times, never had any hassles or problems. ID has never been asked for.[/QUOTE]-and where you pick up the girls in that area. At what time. Day -- night? SW's?
Update as of December 27.
There are 4 GoGo bars on the south side of Gen Maxilom.
Erik the Red is closed.
2 on the north side (church side) one is named KTV but is a GoGo bar upstairs.
Bar fine is 4 k.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2394106]The Mango gogo bars are still up / running. On Maxilom, about 1 km east from Mango Square (Robinson's Fuente). Called the 'Vikings' group of bars because one of them is called Vikings (Eric the Red bar is next door). About 6 gogo bars on the south side of Maxilom Ave, across the street from the INC church. Across the street from those gogo bars and next to the church are several more gogo bars (more expensive I believe). Plenty of GRO's to choose from.
Go bust some buns and report back.[/QUOTE]Last time I was there was a few months ago. Mango not as good as it was years ago, but still many freelancers there. I do not go to clubs as they are a ripoff IMO. What has changed is that there are several sleezy pimps representing the girls now at Mango. I don't deal with pimps or middlemen. Prices are high for what you get and gone are the casual part time normal girls who occasionally spread their legs for money. Mostly hard core and semi hard core pros now. Lots of fuglies, ladyboys. There are several other centers of action at the street level. I will direct those to my blog for that info. Traffic in Cebu has gotten alot worse. People are less friendly. Normal girls are more defensive. Cannot speak to online vetting as this is often too much trouble to deal with IMO.
I went to Cebu and it was mostly an all-round misadventure. Therefore, this report has absolutely nothing to do with sex.
First I checked into the Shangri-la there. It was far from the city but I wanted to get some relaxation on a resort in. It occurred to me that that was probably not an easy place for a FL to walk in considering I went for their exclusive wing club-level floor room. I don't know if that wouldn't have been an issue, but I didn't really try.
Internet was a big deal for me since I had to work. Internet at Shangrila was pretty decent. I had either Shangrila's wifi or mobile internet working even on their beach (yes, I had to really be available, even at the beach).
Shangri-la was a nice hotel. Club-floor had free drinks, appetizers, etc. I liked it. They had a pretty decent fitness center.
I paid for the pinalove site. Regrettably, I didn't get much traction there probably because I'm Indian. It's not a hurdle that I could cross eventually. I had communicated with two girls. One girl flaked and said it's too late for her to come and I would fall asleep (while I was asking her to come). Then she wanted to come next day, but I took a tour out. I talked with another girl and it's hard to discern what she was after (being very insistent that she wasn't after money) but she wouldn't go near any talk of sex.
I then moved to the city. I went to the Quest hotel since it had decent reviews and reports of the best internet (including routers in every room). Quest hotel was mostly bad. They charged me twice and kept insisting it wouldn't be charged. When I showed them two charges on my card, I had to keep visiting them to find the people responsible. It took multiple days to fix. The Internet was not really good. Their fitness center was just some dumbells and two ancient treadmills. There was noise at night and neighbors were playing loud movies by casting. It showed on my phone so I stopped the casting over and over till they gave up and went to bed.
Got laundry done at Wash 'and dry near Quest hotel. I showed the lady two shirts and told her that it shouldn't be dried on high heat. She was kind enough to say that she would do those shirts separately.
I went and got a massage at "Massage and Spa" on Mango and Juana Osmena st. This is next to a Caltex gas station. I really just wanted a regular massage, but lady upfront convinced me to do a full body scrub. I figured okay, maybe I'll get something extra out of it. So, I opt for the full deal. This girl comes in and asks me to take everything off. I left my underwear but she came and said, everything off. Now, she started scrubbing my body with some coarse mixture and did like every inch of the body, everywhere but was careful not to do anything sexual at all. Of the mixture, she tells me these are ground coffee beans. Huh, coffee beans, I wonder and shrug it off. At the very end, she offers me an handjob by pointing at my penis. I took her offer and she gave me an okay handjob.
Okay, those coffee beans hurt like hell an hour after. My entire body broke into a rash. It was all red and itched like crazy. It remained that way and it pretty much put to rest any thoughts of girls and sex. Not that I would have wanted to at that point, but even if I did, any girl looking at it would have run away. Then I had to contend with what do I tell a doctor. "In Asia. No, she said it was just coffee beans!" It took weeks and weeks for my body to heal.
I took a tour and Philippines mobile internet was nonexistent as promised and got stuck in the most horrible traffic jam for hours.
I offered 1500 to a girl who wanted 7 k, she laughed in whatsapp and deleted all her photos and sent me a message saying goodbye. However, then I tried the method Goeffering offered to me as help on the board: I took photos of 3 k or 4 k and the quest key and sent it to her (more than what I had offered earlier). Her tune then changed and she wanted to come over.
However, by that time, my coffee beans experience had rendered me inactive and I passed. Didn't try the bars on Mango and got the hell out of the Philippines.
Random observations and experiences.
Cebu is a dump, no offense. It's dumpier than India.
Mobile internet is bad, bad.
Online, couldn't get any traction because of being Indian / brown.
Didn't find the girls at Ayala.
Shangrila was nice.
[QUOTE=Maila;2407823]I went to the Quest hotel since it had decent reviews and reports of the best internet (including routers in every room). Quest hotel was mostly bad. They charged me twice and kept insisting it wouldn't be charged. When I showed them two charges on my card, I had to keep visiting them to find the people responsible. It took multiple days to fix. The Internet was not really good. Their fitness center was just some dumbells and two ancient treadmills. [/QUOTE]I have stayed at the Quest several times. I like their pool and the staff are very good in my experience. Last vist was in October, the Bad for me is their internet service. Only two speeds, slow and stop. A no go for me. I will not stay there again. Now I go with an Airbnb, usually Solinea. I prefer to be near the mall because I really don't like phili food and the mall gives me many good international food choices. I like Cebu because I have several regular girls there to see and the dating site regular girls are almost 100% going to be GFE.
[QUOTE=Maila;2407823]I went to Cebu and it was mostly an all-round misadventure. Therefore, this report has absolutely nothing to do with sex.
First I checked into the Shangri-la there. It was far from the city but I wanted to get some relaxation on a resort in. It occurred to me that that was probably not an easy place for a FL to walk in considering I went for their exclusive wing club-level floor room. I don't know if that wouldn't have been an issue, but I didn't really try.
Internet was a big deal for me since I had to work. Internet at Shangrila was pretty decent. I had either Shangrila's wifi or mobile internet working even on their beach (yes, I had to really be available, even at the beach).
Shangri-la was a nice hotel. Club-floor had free drinks, appetizers, etc. I liked it. They had a pretty decent fitness center.
I paid for the pinalove site. Regrettably, I didn't get much traction there probably because I'm Indian. It's not a hurdle that I could cross eventually. I had communicated with two girls. One girl flaked and said it's too late for her to come and I would fall asleep (while I was asking her to come). Then she wanted to come next day, but I took a tour out. I talked with another girl and it's hard to discern what she was after (being very insistent that she wasn't after money) but she wouldn't go near any talk of sex.
I then moved to the city. I went to the Quest hotel since it had decent reviews and reports of the best internet (including routers in every room). Quest hotel was mostly bad. They charged me twice and kept insisting it wouldn't be charged. When I showed them two charges on my card, I had to keep visiting them to find the people responsible. It took multiple days to fix. The Internet was not really good. Their fitness center was just some dumbells and two ancient treadmills. There was noise at night and neighbors were playing loud movies by casting. It showed on my phone so I stopped the casting over and over till they gave up and went to bed..[/QUOTE]Few observations.
Cebu IMHO is not a dump. Is way better tan manila for traffic jams and all the other rubbish you get. Yes traffic has got worse over the years but is still a nice place to go and hang out.
Shangri La is way out of town and unless you target girls in Mactan you will have limited chance of getting girls from the city as takes way too long to get there.
Internet speeds are slow in the country and it sucks so get used to it. It is well reported on in the forum so a RTFF would have told which is the better operator.
Am surprised by the comment in Quest as I have stayed there before and it was OK. But your experience is more recent. However wherever you go it is slow unless you perhaps pay for a pocket WiFi with higher speeds, but you will pay as the country has one of the most expensive internet services in Asia.
Lots girls Ayala if you are patient, watch and have a game. They not be to your choice (definitely not mine) but they are there and some will approach you if sitting outside at Bos or Starbucks.
Of course Shangri La is nice it a 5 star hotel and you paid top dollar. You would have more fun in Red Planet IMHO and paid far less IMHO! I have been there but only to eat etc never to stay. Why pay crazy prices and be so far from the action.
Being an Indian? I have friends come and be successful but then then used my contacts (who trust me and thus my friends). The problem is Indian have a bad reputation for a number of reasons and the girls hear the chismis so p the price or refuse outright of find reasons not to turn up (as they can't outright say no).
Money talks as you found out but I never am a cheap charlie and offer PHP 1500! WTF! You are paying top dollar at the Shangri La and in a very classy room yet you offer a cheap talent fee! The girls see Shangri La and then say this man has cash so the price rises. Simple fact in the pinay's brain! You pay a decent amount as we are talking of say $100 max when you pay way more then that for the room, airfare etc.
Me out LOL.
[QUOTE=Maila;2407823]
Cebu is a dump, no offense. It's dumpier than India.
.[/QUOTE]Very true. I love the luxury establishments in Pune or other splendid cities and the utterly friendly pimps, fleecing you nicely.
[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2408106]Very true. I love the luxury establishments in Pune or other splendid cities and the utterly friendly pimps, fleecing you nicely.[/QUOTE]This is what I don't like about all these forums.
What I said is my experience. If you like the dump of Pune and have personal experience there, go there, or to the dumpier places of the world. If Cebu is what you call luxury, go settle there.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2408032]Few observations.
Cebu IMHO is not a dump. Is way better tan manila for traffic jams and all the other rubbish you get.
Being an Indian? The problem is Indian have a bad reputation for a number of reasons and the girls hear the chismis so p the price or refuse outright of find reasons not to turn up (as they can't outright say no).
Me out LOL.[/QUOTE]That's true.
[QUOTE=Maila;2408139]This is what I don't like about all these forums.
What I said is my experience. If you like the dump of Pune and have personal experience there, go there, or to the dumpier places of the world. If Cebu is what you call luxury, go settle there.[/QUOTE]Cebu is no luxury place, but living in Cebu is relaxing, w basic food, entertainment, shopping and girls.
Too bad your experience is a dump for whatever reasons.
Anyway since you are so disgusted w Cebu, no need to return as there are many other places to visit.
I love Cebu in many ways. I usually stay at Mandarin or waterfront Cebu city. Both hotels are good including breakfast. Waterfront is little more expensive but can get good deals sometimes. They usually upgrade me to a suite. Both are girlfriendly. Mandarin has become little more strict lately.
I doubt girls are discriminating Indians as a whole. Generally money talks. When you are trying to get a non sex worker you need to be nice and although money changes hands cannot treat the girl bad. I would go out on a limb and say Indians have a poor track record of treating girls as equals and more so if they think the girl is selling sex. No flaming please. Not directed at all Indians.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2408032]Few observations.
Cebu IMHO is not a dump..[/QUOTE]I second that, buddy. Cebu is one of the finest places on Earth for friendly, loving women and geographical beauty (once you get out of Cebu City). It's a goldmine. If you don't have a good time in Cebu there is something wrong with you.
[QUOTE=Maila;2408139]This is what I don't like about all these forums.
What I said is my experience. If you like the dump of Pune and have personal experience there, go there, or to the dumpier places of the world. If Cebu is what you call luxury, go settle there.[/QUOTE]Always forgive your enemies – Nothing annoys them so much.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2408244]I doubt girls are discriminating Indians as a whole. Generally money talks. When you are trying to get a non sex worker you need to be nice and although money changes hands cannot treat the girl bad. I would go out on a limb and say Indians have a poor track record of treating girls as equals and more so if they think the girl is selling sex. No flaming please. Not directed at all Indians.[/QUOTE]Money talks and offering 1500 PPH is to some way too little as the jungle drum aka chismis will tell the girl a different story regardless of if it is true. As I said why spend all that cash to fly there and skimp on paying a girl 1-2 k more? Never makes sense to me.
Mandarin? Please elaborate Sammon.
[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2399421]-and where you pick up the girls in that area. At what time. Day -- night? SW's?[/QUOTE]There are a few streetwalkers available in that area, from early evening onwards, but I thought they were a bit on the rough side so did not try them. I normally meet girls online, via pinalove or DIA and sometimes bring them back to my room. If they don't have ID then I will bring them to Travellers Resthouse.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2408392]
Mandarin? Please elaborate Sammon.[/QUOTE]Mandarin is a nice hotel. All rooms have big king beds. Bathrooms with tub and toiletries. Free breakfast for two. If you do not check in with a girl they give only one BF coupon. This can be rectified anytime by showing them I. D. card of your companion. So all girls get free breakfast if they stay the night. Does not matter if different girls each night.
Last time in October they started checking I. D of all visitors. All need to have police I. D. School I. D or any other I. D is not acceptable. Girls tell me police I. D takes only couple of days and costs approximately 200 pesos. Having said that one girl just came to my room without being checked. I guess it depends on the security guard on duty. Two of my girls were refused entry.
Mandarin maybe owned by Korean or Chinese. Lots of nice eye candy Korean visitors. Mandarin is next to quest and walking distance to Ayala. Very good rates on Agoda.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2408647]Mandarin is a nice hotel.
Last time in October they started checking I. D of all visitors.[/QUOTE]Normally they don't do it during daytime. Just getting them through security.
But after 10:00 pm they check and can be very particular. I went in with a school teacher lady, 30, decent looking, and she only had her school ID but with no photo. They did not let her in. And another one they guided to the reception desk like a criminal. For me the guards are too much busy body. I not go there anymore.
[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2408684]Normally they don't do it during daytime. Just getting them through security.
But after 10:00 pm they check and can be very particular. I went in with a school teacher lady, 30, decent looking, and she only had her school ID but with no photo. They did not let her in. And another one they guided to the reception desk like a criminal. For me the guards are too much busy body. I not go there anymore.[/QUOTE]A little over a year ago they had started to really enforce the ID requirement during the day. Around 3 pm I had 2 19 yo hotties come visit me, one had an ID and the other one did not. After a long strenuous debate with the guards I ask to speak with the manager on duty. He came out from behind the counter and listened to the guard explain the problem of no ID no entrance. I then asked him what were there any other options (I really wanted to fuxk the girl bad). Lo and behold he quickly suggests that I could sign a waiver! Then goes back behind the counter and brings me a form waiver. Basically the waiver holds the hotel harmless for the non ID guest.
He writes in the guest name, I sign it and we are on our merry way to the elevators!
I don't know if they still have the waivers or not anymore.
[QUOTE=DCups;2408263]I second that, buddy. Cebu is one of the finest places on Earth for friendly, loving women and geographical beauty (once you get out of Cebu City). It's a goldmine. If you don't have a good time in Cebu there is something wrong with you.[/QUOTE]DCups,
I'm going to be in Cebu in a few weeks. What what cities would you recommend?
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2408688]A little over a year ago they had started to really enforce the ID requirement during the day.
I don't know if they still have the waivers or not anymore.[/QUOTE]My visit was 1 1/2 years ago. To bring in a ST from Ayala during daytime was no problem.
If that change is now the case. Then forget Mandarin hotel for our hobby. What a crap!
RedPlanet near Ayala also has smaller rooms. But direct acess through the elevator, not passing the lobby.
Is it possible barfine girls from bamboozers? How much would it cost go to your room with one of the girls working there?
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2408688]A little over a year ago they had started to really enforce the ID requirement during the day. Around 3 pm I had 2 19 yo hotties come visit me, one had an ID and the other one did not. After a long strenuous debate with the guards I ask to speak with the manager on duty. He came out from behind the counter and listened to the guard explain the problem of no ID no entrance. I then asked him what were there any other options (I really wanted to fuxk the girl bad). Lo and behold he quickly suggests that I could sign a waiver! Then goes back behind the counter and brings me a form waiver. Basically the waiver holds the hotel harmless for the non ID guest.
He writes in the guest name, I sign it and we are on our merry way to the elevators!
I don't know if they still have the waivers or not anymore.[/QUOTE]I was in Cebu in November 2019. Stayed at the quest. Never had ID checked on any of the 3 I had to my room. I was surprised because one looked so young I had to check her ID when we first meet. Pulled all 3 from PL. Had corner room. Nice view good WiFi. But rooms there a bit small.
Hi DCups,
Any way to communicate your list of places?
I would like to get your advice on mongering places for diving as well in Cebu?
Vic.
[QUOTE=DCups;2408263]I second that, buddy. Cebu is one of the finest places on Earth for friendly, loving women and geographical beauty (once you get out of Cebu City). It's a goldmine. If you don't have a good time in Cebu there is something wrong with you.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=VictorHugo99;2409055]Hi DCups,
Any way to communicate your list of places?
I would like to get your advice on mongering places for diving as well in Cebu?
Vic.[/QUOTE]IMHO I like Dumaguete, Bohol (island), Moalboal and Bantayan (diving is OK at some). From Cebu maybe try Camotes.
Try Oslob for the whale sharks but get there v early (630 am) to avoid the Korean and Jap rush later.
Each person has a different list as I also like going to San Carlos / Toledo as have contacts there and is very different from Cebu the city.
Dear WR,
As always, thanks again for your recommendations.
I will look into them as well.
Vic.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2409173]IMHO I like Dumaguete, Bohol (island), Moalboal and Bantayan (diving is OK at some). From Cebu maybe try Camotes.
Try Oslob for the whale sharks but get there v early (630 am) to avoid the Korean and Jap rush later.
Each person has a different list as I also like going to San Carlos / Toledo as have contacts there and is very different from Cebu the city.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AlexJino;2408939]Is it possible barfine girls from bamboozers? How much would it cost go to your room with one of the girls working there?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]I am bamboozled by your question. Perhaps if you paid the twenty dollar subscription fee.
We could via PM, Private Messaging system, un-bamboozle the question?
[QUOTE=AlexJino;2408939]Is it possible barfine girls from bamboozers? How much would it cost go to your room with one of the girls working there?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Its a pub. You can order drinks and food and listen to the DJ-music. You can buy the waitresses an overpriced drink. And if you can sweet talk, she may follow you after her shift. But no barfine system. More details just google their website.
That may be the central issue. You could not take a sarcastic comment from a fellow senior member.
I know it is harder to be brown but never bothered me across the world including Thailand.
There are going to be girls who only want whites just like I don't want a white girl.
I don't know where in India I can find a clean AyalaMall or SM seaside or numerous other nice places and a great girl within 5 hours of landing who would screw my brains out with no obligations.
PM me if you are interested in any help.
[QUOTE=Maila;2408139]This is what I don't like about all these forums.
What I said is my experience. If you like the dump of Pune and have personal experience there, go there, or to the dumpier places of the world. If Cebu is what you call luxury, go settle there.[/QUOTE]
While on the topic of "dump" places, the first day I was in Collonade mall I was approached by two girls I would rate as a six. I did not pursue and I just don't see it as a dump. It is different from Paris or New York but charming in its own way. Just a pain to find a taxi.
[QUOTE=SethMacfarlane;2408696]DCups,
I'm going to be in Cebu in a few weeks. What what cities would you recommend?[/QUOTE]I I recommend dalaguete ocean bay resort and alcoy area. I am not a diver except muff diving but ocean bay resort in dalaguete has divoning. Its not really a mongering destination so bring aone from cebu city or lapu lapu. I did get lucky with a local there but it takes time to find.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2408647]Mandarin is a nice hotel. All rooms have big king beds. Bathrooms with tub and toiletries. Free breakfast for two. If you do not check in with a girl they give only one BF coupon. This can be rectified anytime by showing them I. D. card of your companion. So all girls get free breakfast if they stay the night. Does not matter if different girls each night.
Last time in October they started checking I. D of all visitors. All need to have police I. D. School I. D or any other I. D is not acceptable. Girls tell me police I. D takes only couple of days and costs approximately 200 pesos. Having said that one girl just came to my room without being checked. I guess it depends on the security guard on duty. Two of my girls were refused entry.
Mandarin maybe owned by Korean or Chinese. Lots of nice eye candy Korean visitors. Mandarin is next to quest and walking distance to Ayala. Very good rates on Agoda.[/QUOTE]Doest Quest (across the street) have the same policies? I usually stay at Mandarin but will move to quest if less hassle.
[QUOTE=Ibaski;2410320]That may be the central issue. You could not take a sarcastic comment from a fellow senior member.
I know it is harder to be brown but never bothered me across the world including Thailand.
There are going to be girls who only want whites just like I don't want a white girl.
I don't know where in India I can find a clean AyalaMall or SM seaside or numerous other nice places and a great girl within 5 hours of landing who would screw my brains out with no obligations.
PM me if you are interested in any help.[/QUOTE]Ask Mr Maila --a board member here and a specialist to know the High Class places in India.
Have fun!
[QUOTE=DCups;2410453]Doest Quest (across the street) have the same policies? I usually stay at Mandarin but will move to quest if less hassle.[/QUOTE]Never stayed at Quest. So no intel. Maybe some other member can advice.
Met her online (pinalove) and I told her I wanted to meet her she asked if she could 'borrow' money, but never said how much, so we arranged to meet at Ayala Mall in Cebu City and she came back to my room for some s / t action. After a rather pleasant session with her I offered her 1 k and she politely and shyly asked for 3 k, but I told her frankly and politely that was all I had, but said I would give her an extra 200 for taxi and she sweetly accepted with no fuss. She is very sweet and a bit shy. I have met her 3 times, and each time gave her the same, 1. 2 k.
When I was arranging with her to meet up for the second and third time, she asked if I could help with a bit more, 5 k, but I politely told her that my budget was 1 k and there was no argument from her, she accepted. I don't blame her for asking, but there are many other girls just as pretty available for about the same rate.
[QUOTE=DCups;2410453]Doest Quest (across the street) have the same policies? I usually stay at Mandarin but will move to quest if less hassle.[/QUOTE]I stayed at Quest a while back. A church uses the hotel's function room for Sunday morning services and possibly Saturday night. When I was there they had some kind of dinner function on Saturday night. Quest really screened the quests then. My non church going guests were given the twice over even though they had ID's.
[QUOTE=Mdemde;2410925]Met her online (pinalove) and I told her I wanted to meet her she asked if she could 'borrow' money, but never said how much, so we arranged to meet at Ayala Mall in Cebu City and she came back to my room for some s / t action. After a rather pleasant session with her I offered her 1 k and she politely and shyly asked for 3 k, but I told her frankly and politely that was all I had, but said I would give her an extra 200 for taxi and she sweetly accepted with no fuss. She is very sweet and a bit shy. I have met her 3 times, and each time gave her the same, 1. 2 k.
When I was arranging with her to meet up for the second and third time, she asked if I could help with a bit more, 5 k, but I politely told her that my budget was 1 k and there was no argument from her, she accepted. I don't blame her for asking, but there are many other girls just as pretty available for about the same rate.[/QUOTE]She seems lovely. What hotel did you stay at? Care to share her information?
[QUOTE=SethMacfarlane;2411515]She seems lovely. What hotel did you stay at? Care to share her information?[/QUOTE]I'm renting a condo in Cebu City, near Ayala Mall.
I will gladly share her contact info, please send me a DM.
Hi guys,
Planning to visit Philippines in March. Any suggestions on which city? We are a group of 5 boys and looking for good food, party and of course lots of girls. Strip clubs and massages will be a bonus. From the little research I've done Cebu looks promising. Tia cheers.
[QUOTE=Ibaski;2410320]That may be the central issue. You could not take a sarcastic comment from a fellow senior member.
I know it is harder to be brown but never bothered me across the world including Thailand.
There are going to be girls who only want whites just like I don't want a white girl.
I don't know where in India I can find a clean AyalaMall or SM seaside or numerous other nice places and a great girl within 5 hours of landing who would screw my brains out with no obligations.
PM me if you are interested in any help.[/QUOTE]Just replied along those lines in another forum.
Expecting a work trip to manila in the coming months. Thinking about visiting Cebu during weekends. Started reading Cebu section and getting these complaints a lot.
Back in Melbourne, even couple of Indian girls I have visited certainly said about these rudeness while Chatting.
May be punters need to take a chill pill and find what is working for others. I don't believe it is due to region.
Gentlemen,
Just back from my trip to Cebu. I didn't have too much time in this city myself, but I did have Cali from Masaji Spa come over to my hotel.
A Nuru Massage was something that had been on my wish list for a long time. Cali did her best, she came with a large backpack and in no time my hotel room was turned into a spa.
Unfortunately I really couldn't enjoy the massage. I was so cold (even though the oil was wonderfully warm) and I didn't get warm anymore, at the end we finished the Massage in the shower. Cali wanted to meet on other days outside for her working hours, had still some texts with her but it never happened. If you choose an extra P3000 for Cali, you can do everything.
Greetings.
Went to Cebu in November, here is my report.
Friday night.
Arrival. Waited in line for 2 hours immigration, that's how many people there were. From airport to ABC hotel was 500 pesos. Made a mistake and booked one night too many, sweet lady from the desk said no problem. ABC hotel is within walking distance from Mango Square Mall. Meet with a girl from Tinder. Come quickly. Pay her 2,000 pesos. Hotel is girl friendly and has good WiFi.
Saturday.
Bought internet data plan with sim card at convenience store, does not work. Starbucks has no WiFi. Bo's cafe has good wifi. There is an adult store near Mango Square. Met girl at Ayala mall, we exchange phone numbers. Good chemistry immediately. Go to Mango. Many people, including dudes who try to get me to bars / meet freelancers. Freelancer is 1,500. Girls at the bar called "2 sisters" cost 3,500.
Sunday.
Eat ayer lechon pork and meet with girl from PinaLove. Too ugly, no sex.
Monday.
Meet with the girl from Ayala mall. Sightseeing and sex (very wet).
Tuesday.
More sex with Ayala girl.
Wednesday.
Meet other girl from PinaLove. Take taxi to Cebu mountain top with nice view. We kiss and have dinner. Sex at the hotel. Big tits and very wet.
Thursday.
PinaLove girl find out about the other girls and leaves angry. Pay her plane ticket. Bikini bar girls next to Mango Planet X cost 4 K each. One girl is 18 and her name is Angel. Pretty face.
Friday.
Go to Mango bikini bars. 5 K for Planet X girls. Freelancers on the street cost 1,500. They look too young and skinny. Waste money in KTV (shots).
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2409173]IMHO I like Dumaguete, Bohol (island), Moalboal and Bantayan (diving is OK at some). From Cebu maybe try Camotes.[/QUOTE]Have you actually been to Camotes? That has to be the deadest, most boring place — the western island — in the entire country, of the places we've been to. Even worse than Cuyo.
[QUOTE=Golfinho;2419582]Have you actually been to Camotes? That has to be the deadest, most boring place the western island in the entire country, of the places we've been to. Even worse than Cuyo.[/QUOTE]Yes I agree but all are options and let the buyer choose.
Some like it precisely for the reason you state.
I arrived in Cebu City from Dumaguete Friday night. It took me a full hour to figure out how to get out of the airport. The domestic side was impossible with over an hour wait for a regular cab and no responses from Grab. I finally had the insight to walk over to International where there was absolutely no line (I think due to general lack of tourists and no flights from China at all). Still, another hour and a half in miserable traffic to the ABC hotel on F. Ramos St. The hotel is clean and close to the action at Mango Square. I got there about 9:30 or so. Many freelancers and was accosted immediately by two girls (claimed to be cousins) who insisted on a threesome. Well (stupid, stupid, so stupid) I was attracted to the taller, exotic "girl" (you understand the rest of the stupid story), who went off with me, nervously checking over her shoulder for her cousin. Then she wanted to stop at a smoky bar (Time out Sports Bar) for a drink. I said no way (the smoke). We went to the hotel, she took a long long shower, came out with her clothes on (and I still didn't get it). I said, 'take your clothes off'. She said, 'my boobs are so small'. I said, 'let me see them'. Then I realize, duh, she is a guy, and I say, 'you're a guy'. She says, 'no, I am transgender. Blahblah'. What an idiot I am. Anyhow, I said, 'I should have gone with your cousin'. I gave her 1000 PHP, which I know is too much, but I wanted to avoid any drama, whatever. Anyhow, huge, stupid move / disappointment.
Saturday I went to Ayala Mall and sat on the balcony outside Bo's Coffee, thinking (mistakenly) that there would be freelancers there at 3 in the afternoon. Obviously not. That night about 7:30 I went out to Zubuchon (a chain lechon restaurant) across from Mango square (excellent), then trolled around the area for an hour or so (nothing...too early). Went back to the hotel and came back at 9:00. Still too early, I guess. I was just about to give up and go to a massage parlor on Ramos St, when I got a hit off Tinder. A few IMs back and forth and she rolled in to the hotel 20 minutes later. Jackie, is a 26 year old single mom, part timer, slim, pretty, no make up...natural, and enthusiastic. Definitely worth every piso (2000). (I could post her Tinder picture, but I don't know if that would be the ethically right thing to do? Anyway, she made up for a lot of disappointment I'd had for the previous two weeks.
I couldn't stand the dirt, congestion, disorganization of Cebu City and spent my last night out in a beach hotel on Mactan Island just to ensure that I could get to the airport on time and wouldn't have to step over any beggar children at night. The hotel (Nordtropic Resort) was completely empty. It was totally boring (a Filipino's idea of what a Korean or Japanese would want in a luxury hotel). Mainly, no one there. I had the pool and vestigial beach all to myself. No pretty girls, no one!
I met her again last night, the last time I saw her was about 6 weeks ago. She was pregnant the last time I met her, but unfortunately she has had a miscarriage and lost the baby. Still as pretty as ever, and still as sweet as ever. I gave her PHP1200, and she then shyly and sweetly said 'Happy Valentine' and asked if she could have a Valentine 'gift', so I gave her an extra PHP200 and in return got a lovely sweet smile!
Anyway, a few more pics;.
Wow. She is hot and cute. I am planning my trip to Cebu and will surely nail her too.
[QUOTE=Mdemde;2426173]I met her again last night, the last time I saw her was about 6 weeks ago. She was pregnant the last time I met her, but unfortunately she has had a miscarriage and lost the baby. Still as pretty as ever, and still as sweet as ever. I gave her PHP1200, and she then shyly and sweetly said 'Happy Valentine' and asked if she could have a Valentine 'gift', so I gave her an extra PHP200 and in return got a lovely sweet smile!
Anyway, a few more pics;.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mdemde;2426173]I met her again last night, the last time I saw her was about 6 weeks ago. She was pregnant the last time I met her, but unfortunately she has had a miscarriage and lost the baby. Still as pretty as ever, and still as sweet as ever. I gave her PHP1200, and she then shyly and sweetly said 'Happy Valentine' and asked if she could have a Valentine 'gift', so I gave her an extra PHP200 and in return got a lovely sweet smile!
Anyway, a few more pics;.[/QUOTE]Very nice! I'm still kicking myself for not meeting up with this pretty lady!
[QUOTE=Sxxxx;2409471]I am bamboozled by your question. Perhaps if you paid the twenty dollar subscription fee.
We could via PM, Private Messaging system, un-bamboozle the question?[/QUOTE]I can't send you a PM, is your membership finished?
[QUOTE=Mdemde;2461774]They eased the lockdown restrictions here at the beginning of the month, the malls started to open up, taxis appeared once again on the streets, my condo building (near Ayala Mall) allowed visitors again (they had to fill out an online 'health declaration' form before they were allowed in) but then suddenly on June 16 the authorities reimposed full lockdown again (back to ECQ) and all the malls had to shut and all taxis were taken off the roads and my condo building will not allow visitors.
All households (250,000 households, 1 million residents) in Cebu City had to apply for a quarantine pass back in March, to be shown before being allowed into a supermarket or to be shown if stopped out on the street by the police. These passes were suddenly cancelled last Tuesday and people were told to remain indoors until new passes were issued. They will be colour coded and will restrict when you can go outdoors, to just 3 days a week depending on the last digit on the pass. And no one will be allowed outdoors on a Sunday, starting fro tomorrow! Private cars are not allowed on the roads on Sundays, and are restricted to just 3 days a week during the week, depending on the last digit on their number plate. And everyone under the age of 21 or over 60 (I am in my mid 60's) is still not allowed to go outdoors, even when the restrictions were eased up at the beginning of the month this age group were still not allowed to go outdoors.
I did go out this afternoon, I have been out most days since the start of lockdown, either to go out to get food, or for a walk for exercise.
I have not been issued with my new pass so technically I was breaking the law this afternoon and could have been fined, I went to Rustans to buy some food, there were very few people out and about and very few cars.[/QUOTE]Good FR Mdemde.
Copied it here from the General Info thread.
See the PM.
[QUOTE=DrGut;2414011]Hi guys,
Planning to visit Philippines in March. Any suggestions on which city? We are a group of 5 boys and looking for good food, party and of course lots of girls. Strip clubs and massages will be a bonus. From the little research I've done Cebu looks promising. Tia cheers.[/QUOTE]What I usually do is split my time between a couple of cities to get the full experience and see what I like best. Travel within the interior of the country is super cheap, even by flight, you may want to try Cebu, Angeles, and even Manila to see where you vibe the best with the girls.
[QUOTE=ThomasCasey;2665736]What I usually do is split my time between a couple of cities to get the full experience and see what I like best. Travel within the interior of the country is super cheap, even by flight, you may want to try Cebu, Angeles, and even Manila to see where you vibe the best with the girls.[/QUOTE]I used to travel Cebu, Manila, AC as a triangle. Fly into the country into Cebu, enjoy Cebu girls a few days. Flight to Manila (always delayed of course). Stay Manila a few days then car transport to AC. The have flight home out of Clark. I used an open-jaw international ticket and Cebu Pacific for the internal flight.
All of this was pre-covid. Plan needs to be revised for the "new" travel realities.
First time here in Cebu, only other visit to the Philippines before this was to Manila. I made a rookie mistake, didn't do enough research and picked an airbnb in Lapu Lapu that I thought would allow me to do more exploring. But its hard to get a real impression of what traffic is like using the internet. But I've been going like a madman these last 8 months in Thailand, a girl a day with few breaks in between, sometime 2 to 3 girls in a day. So the dick and the budget does need a break so I'll just deal with it. Have to say I was really wondering if I made a mistake coming to the Philippines, not because of the mistake above but just in general. But every step of the way as I was flying here and arriving at the airport and then heading to my condo so many Filipinos were just super helpful.
So I just chill in my new condo and surf the internet, surf the dating scene and I get a cute girl wanting to come over to meet me just to talk, wants a serious relationship. Ok I'm up to try that. On the way over she asks if she can have pizza for her and her HUGE family, told her 'next time'. She did show me photos and it is a very very large family. I gave her around 150 peso's for coming over to pay the trike's to and from. Now I am not a noob, I can tell if a girl is playing me (some of the times) and I just got that feeling. So I told her 'hey I don't think this will work'. But she wanted to come over the next day to talk so I figured ok why not. She comes over, we talk about relationships etc but she's still a bit 'cold', not really relaxed. I then order her some pizza's to take back to her family and get her to start giving me a massage, pizzas were cheap so wasn't expecting much. She did on my coaxing give me a half hearted HJ all the while in a sexy voice (NOT) saying 'you cum, traffic bad'. Works every time LOL. So I finished, she goes home and a few hours later I get a photo of a half eaten slice of pizza. Then a request for a ridiculous amount of money for school tuition. Told her no. So she started lowering the amount of money saying her dad could borrow the rest. Phone call after phone call, message after message. Started up the next day even.
But I did luck out, got a chat on the dating app from a girl living closeby. Had her come over for some fun costing me 1000 pesos. Really nice girl, not gorgeous but a nice body and great personality. Eventually I'll move to a condo around the IT park and see if I like it there, maybe rent for a year if I do. Maybe head up to Manila if Cebu doesn't work out or even down to Dumaguete. But the goal was to get here, that was half the battle.
Hey I admit it, I'm so used to Thailand that sometimes I'm just not ready for these new rules in another country. I was stuck in Lapu Lapu at a cheap airbnb that I thought would suffice. Didn't put much effort into researching the area or the condo unit, just hit the buy button since I was so so busy in Pattaya doing two girls a day. Luckily I was getting burned out and needed to put a stop to the spending for a bit. And that's the only thing a 'Filipino condo complex' is good for. Why do I call it that? Because there must have been hundreds of Filipinos eyes on me being one of the few foreigners there. And had I started bringing girls in left and right that would not have been good for me. You run the risks of bribes, police showing up since your seeing prostitutes. Luckily I found 2 girls who would come directly into my condo unit without me having to go let them in, just a single girl walking up the drive past hundreds of windows and walking into a building every other day. But eventually it was time to move on and explore Cebu city.
So I go and get a more expensive place near the malls with so much more to see and do. Chatting with new girls on the dating sites to see if anything came of it. Chatted with a cutie in the link below, 20 why with cute photos. Agreed to meet her and her sisters at Jollibee's for lunch. Video chatted so I knew it was the same girl. I get to the Jollibee and the girl is super super tiny, maybe 4'8 at the most. Was the girl in the photos. So I bought them and me lunch and really enjoyed my first time chatting with them. I knew something was up when I sat down and asked how old she was and she said 19 why. I then asked if she had ID and she said only a vax card. So I asked to see it. Just a piece of paper with her name and date of birth (she was really only 18 y). No way I'd ever get her in my condo let alone make sex work with such a tiny girl. So I said my goodbyes and had a good smile on the way home, an experience is an experience you just go with the flow.
[URL]https://www.pinalove.com/Katejanet55[/URL]
So then I chat with another board member and get a number of one of his old girls. She shows up today and is cute, nice looker. Not gorgeous but a nice spinner. Problems came around pretty quickly when she saw my dick. Talked her into trying it out and I can sum up the experience like this: never had a girl so politely as I am fucking her keep saying over and over 'please finish sir'. The sir was just the icing on a cake that dropped in the oven. It wasn't good at all but having a girl saying 'sir please finish' was something I'll never forget.
So I'm still chatting with the dating apps and this girl sends me a chat. Again somewhat cute, large breasts in the photo so I chat her up outside of the app and she says 'I do incall massage now' and I thought hey that sounds like a plan. End the night with a massage. So I go downstairs to meet her, standing there when the motorbike driver pulled up with the girl driving side saddle and off hops a ladyboy. Just turned around and said your a ladyboy as she's trying to follow me back into my condo unit, keeping his voice somewhat high like a woman. But he had no tits like in the photos, common buddy if your going to pass yourself off as the women in the photos pick one with a flat chest. I tell the security guard 'hey I don't want him to come up with me' and the ladyboy walks right past the guard and is trying to convince me he's a woman. Finally the guard gets this guy out of my face. Why they fake their status is beyond me, setting themselves up for these situations. Ohh well, tomorrow's another day. I'll explore Cebu a bit more then moving my ass to Angeles city.
I met her on pinalove, then moved the conversation over to whatsapp. We agreed a price, P1k, for s/t, plus P100 fare, and she asked if we could go for a meal first before we went to a s/t hotel. She also asked if she could bring her elder sister along for the meal, and I thought yeah, why not. But my hopes of a three-some were dashed when she sent me a pic of her sister, frankly she was a dog.
So we arranged to meet yesterday at a mall in Lapu-Lapu. They arrived about 10 minutes late and we went for a meal, chicken and rice (what else?!), all in it cost P560 for the 3 of us. After we finished the meal her sister said she was going to head for home, but I told her she could come with us if she wanted, and she did. We got a taxi to the s/t hotel, and the sister waited in the bathroom whilst I got to work on her sister.
I posted pics of this girl before, back in June on the [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1004-General-Information[/URL] page (#7570 06-26-22), when she was pregnant, as was her friend.
Both girls have since given birth, but I only met one of the girls yesterday (the taller one in the pics from June).
Wanted to try out Cebu city, never been here before so came here instead of Manila. A mistake on my part but you live and you learn. But I did meet a couple of good girls while I was here.
[URL]https://www.pinalove.com/Dianne592[/URL]
Dianne above is attractive and serves the purpose, BJ is kinda average but the body is pretty decent.
[URL]https://www.dateinasia.com/Nalyn20[/URL]
Met the date in asian girl above, she lives in Lapu Lapu just past the bridges. Fantastic body, fantastic BJ but she insists on condoms.
[QUOTE=Breadman;2754474]Wanted to try out Cebu city, never been here before so came here instead of Manila. A mistake on my part but you live and you learn. But I did meet a couple of good girls while I was here.
[URL]https://www.pinalove.com/Dianne592[/URL]
Dianne above is attractive and serves the purpose, BJ is kinda average but the body is pretty decent.
[URL]https://www.dateinasia.com/Nalyn20[/URL]
Met the date in asian girl above, she lives in Lapu Lapu just past the bridges. Fantastic body, fantastic BJ but she insists on condoms.[/QUOTE]I'm 100% interested in the girl in your 2nd Link, Nalyn. She looks Hott.
Reasonable ST Donation?
How is her booty? Is it bubbly?
Also how does she perform? Does she just lay like a starfish or is she a firecracker? Multiple positions. ?
What all does she do in terms of "GFE?
Just some of the few questions I have. Again, she is hot, would love to potentially meet her!
Via pinalove. Yesterday was the first time I met her. She wanted 3k for an overnight till 6am, I only wanted S/T and did my best to bring her down to 1k but she would not move down from 2k which is what we eventually agreed on, plus fare. IMHO not worth 2k, if I did decide to meet her again it would only be for a max of 1k.
[QUOTE=Mdemde;2757773]Via pinalove. Yesterday was the first time I met her. She wanted 3k for an overnight till 6am, I only wanted S/T and did my best to bring her down to 1k but she would not move down from 2k which is what we eventually agreed on, plus fare. IMHO not worth 2k, if I did decide to meet her again it would only be for a max of 1k.[/QUOTE]Just out of interest: how many hit and miss you got on Pinalove?
I experience many of the girls only want a sugardaddy from internet (send me load, send me fare), but hesitate to meet in real. Or, the other group, come to their house and talk to their parents.
[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2758074]Just out of interest: how many hit and miss you got on Pinalove?
I experience many of the girls only want a sugardaddy from internet (send me load, send me fare), but hesitate to meet in real. Or, the other group, come to their house and talk to their parents.[/QUOTE]Newbie here.
I am also interested, since it seems that most of the girls are either looking for genuine serious relationships, or camgirls.
I would be interested to know your "strategies" on pinalove hehe.
[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2758074]Just out of interest: how many hit and miss you got on Pinalove?
I experience many of the girls only want a sugardaddy from internet (send me load, send me fare), but hesitate to meet in real. Or, the other group, come to their house and talk to their parents.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mrjones87;2758252]Newbie here.
I am also interested, since it seems that most of the girls are either looking for genuine serious relationships, or camgirls.
I would be interested to know your "strategies" on pinalove hehe.[/QUOTE]It's a numbers game, the more messages you send out the more you will get in the way of replies! I use pinalove, dateinasia and tinder.
I get many messages from women in their 30's, 40's and 50's, even some in their 60's, but I do not bother to reply to them. My target is 18 and 19 year old girls, but the majority of messages I send out to these girls never get a reply. Of those that do reply, more than half stop responding after a few exchanges.
If a girl replies to me I always tell her that I live in Cebu City then ask her where she lives. I am looking to meet up with girls who live in or close to Cebu City, if she lives too far away I drop the conversation as I don't want to waste their time or waste my time.
After a few brief messages I normally send them a brief "I want to meet you" message and wait for a response. If they are interested then I invite them over to facebook or whatsapp and continue on there.
I have tried many different approaches, normally I will tell the girl that I am looking for 'fun', and if she is agreeable then the next step is to arrange a day/time/place to meet. In most cases, we agree a price before we meet.
Sometimes I make no mention that I am looking for fun, and will just arrange to meet them and go for a meal and see what happens.
I have also been offered camgirl shows but always turn them down, I am only looking to meet up with girls for sex.
On some profiles the girls say that they are looking for a husband or long-term relationship, but this doesn't stop me from sending them a message and I have actually met and gone to bed with quite a few of them. I have never told them that I am looking for anything long-term.
More than a few of the girls I chat with ask for a load or for money to help with hospital bills/food etc, I always politely decline and tell them that we need to meet first.
Like many posters here, I have had many no-shows, as well as late arrivals, but it's all part of the game and no point in getting annoyed or worked-up about it.
The girl in the creampie pics I posted 2 days ago here gave her age on her profile as 24 which is outside my target age, but she looked very pretty in the pics on her profile so I sent her a message and ended up meeting her. She let her real age slip when we met, she is actually 27!
[QUOTE=Mdemde;2758394]It's a numbers game, the more messages you send out the more you will get in the way of replies! I use pinalove, dateinasia and tinder.
I get many messages from women in their 30's, 40's and 50's, even some in their 60's, but I do not bother to reply to them. My target is 18 and 19 year old girls, but the majority of messages I send out to these girls never get a reply. Of those that do reply, more than half stop responding after a few exchanges.
If a girl replies to me I always tell her that I live in Cebu City then ask her where she lives. I am looking to meet up with girls who live in or close to Cebu City, if she lives too far away I drop the conversation as I don't want to waste their time or waste my time.
After a few brief messages I normally send them a brief "I want to meet you" message and wait for a response. If they are interested then I invite them over to facebook or whatsapp and continue on there.
I have tried many different approaches, normally I will tell the girl that I am looking for 'fun', and if she is agreeable then the next step is to arrange a day/time/place to meet. In most cases, we agree a price before we meet.[/QUOTE]Agree with your approach. And your failures and silly demands. To score will work well if you are a long term resident. But much more challenging if you are a one week visitor.
On your take on locations, I experience its easier to get girls from the south. Talisay, CarCar. To pick them up at southern bus terminal, than girls from Lapu Lapu or the north.
On the age, easier to get a horny 35 year old then a handphone-stitched 19 year old.
Its anyway a lot of homework.
[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2758468]Agree with your approach. And your failures and silly demands. To score will work well if you are a long term resident. But much more challenging if you are a one week visitor.
On your take on locations, I experience its easier to get girls from the south. Talisay, CarCar. To pick them up at southern bus terminal, than girls from Lapu Lapu or the north..[/QUOTE]I'd agree that it's a numbers game but remember that's both ways. A cute girl will receive '00's or even '000's of messages that will likely just be time waters. We (guys in town, wanting to meet now for sex) need a process to rapidly sort the dead wood and also remain front of mind for suitable girls.
My rapid sort questions are a combination of:
Will she give me her WhatsApp number straight away? If she won't she's very unlikely to meet for sex.
Same for will she send me photos and video chat.
Is she living in the nominated town now. Not Cebu Province, Cebu City. Not she moved away for work last month.
Is she meeting guys for fun or only chat mates for cash, marriage and kids etc. As mentioned elsewhere, what she says in her profile is meaningless. That's just for friends and family.
Any technicalities around meeting after work, days of classes, family commitments etc.
Personally, I'm happy for first dates, meet with friends etc as 90% of these usually end up back at the room anyway.
I'm pretty polite and respectful when asking these questions as there is no need to scare shy girls away. However, I don't waste time with girls that aren't going to deliver.
P.S. A good way to sort prospects and scare off scammers and shy girls is to say that I am here, now, and want to meet. Not just chat forever. That's very attractive to girls who are ready to go but a waste of time for shy girls or the scammers etc.
*When you say that you pick them up from Southern terminals, do you physically drive down there or just send cash for tickets? Given the very high no show rates I very very rarely stray from girls come to me and we meet in the condo or nearby coffee shop etc. I can imagine a lot of trips to bus stations, only to arrive and no one is there. Half a day lost for nothing.
Enjoy. G.
Mdemde is living there. Consequently he has plenty of options to pick and choose and experiment. For a one week warrior like me or anybody else timely manner is essential. Cannot deal with bullshit. Here and now is the rule. Although I have been successful in getting girls to stay with me this visit I did not find horny knock dead gorgeous girl. I had better luck in Manila. Every trip is different. I thought I would get two really pretty I chatted on cam but once I landed their demand and requirements I could not deal with.
As for those girls living outside Cebu City it is a logistics issue. Most say they do not have money for transportation and I do not send money. I got burned before when I did send money but never more than 500 pesos. Some girls will make an effort with promise of 2500 pesos for one night which is big for them. As for their family objecting if there is a will there is a way.
As for age I target only 18-23 or 25 . Why? There is a thing like age hardened if you go for older girls. All girls I had are simple and no kids. They all had jobs and consequently they do not care for breakfast in the hotel. Even when I took them they are not used to big breakfast. They just eat little Philippine food. Besides it feels good to lay beside a young hard body.
Unless if it is a regular repeat GF do not take any gifts. Money is the King. They exactly know how to get things they need cheaply. Most often they buy used phones, clothes etc cheap. One girl texted me saying her mother really liked the apples she bought with my money. It warms your heart.
There are students living in Cebu city in dormitories but they have restrictions. They could only come during daytime only which I do not like.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2758619]*When you say that you pick them up from Southern terminals, do you physically drive down there or just send cash for tickets? Given the very high no show rates I very very rarely stray from girls come to me and we meet in the condo or nearby coffee shop etc. I can imagine a lot of trips to bus stations, only to arrive and no one is there. Half a day lost for nothing.[/QUOTE]From my hotel near Osmena Circle the terminal is just 10 min taxi away. And for sure she must send me pictures or even better a WhatsApp location (more girls now use WhatsApp then before) that she is now in the bus. Bullshit like " I am on the way" is useless.
At the exit there is a DonkinDonught shop, perfect to sit down and watch the passengers leaving the terminal. Easy spot to meet and all the girls feel pampered that someone is picking her up at the terminal.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2758795]. Here and now is the rule.....I thought I would get two really pretty I chatted on cam but once I landed their demand and requirements I could not deal with....[/QUOTE]That's why I only message when I'm in town. Does she want to meet today, yes / no? No time for dying uncle's or the general run around. It's also an unspoken given why an old married guy wants to meet a 20 yo student now, today.
It doesn't stop the bus fare con but that's easy and quick to weed out and move on.
Enjoy. G.
Yesterday afternoon with one of my regulars.
Yesterday afternoon, some pics below.
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VIEW PICS WITH CAUTION, CONTAINS MALE NUDITY, MAY BE UPSETTING AND/OR DISTRESSING AND/OR EMOTIONALLY CHALLENGING FOR SOME INDIVIDUALS. :-p
First time traveler to PH, and decided on Cebu based on friends who are traveling with me here and who will leave after two days to Malaysia. As my holiday isn't as long as theirs, I decided to stay my entire holiday in Cebu. All my hotels booked based on some reading from the Hotels forum. As this is my first time mongering abroad (There is the caveat of my time in Chiang Mai and Bangkok Thailand but it was pretty lackluster), I have read up on the numerous reports here on this forum and tried to base my hotel stays around the more popular areas (I. E. , Osmena, IT Park, Ayala etc.).
Given this is a first for me, I have made many "rookie mistakes" that I definitely learned from. Here's a few of such. Downloaded Pina Love and tried to gather up some girls who are willing to accommodate. Messaged one who seemed rather friendly and nice. We chatted for a few days and then "can you please help; I will do anything. Please send for load and food". She was quite the looker so I asked if she could send some pictures or videos. She did and asked for "help". I asked how much, and she replied 5000 pesos. Uh, wtf. I said no, she then kept lowering and lowering. I agreed to send 500 p she was rather happy and sent me some more enticing videos and promised to take good care of me when we met. Yes, I know mistake on my part but definitely learned quick. Fast forward a few weeks and received a message asking for help again. I told her straight up, no. She said it's okay don't worry sent me a few more pictures. Another few weeks pass by, this time with a new reason / excuse she needs help. "Please anything will help, my phone is in the pawn shop and I need help getting it back". Not entirely sure how she would've been messaging me without her phone, perhaps using a friends phone or what not. I ignored this message for a few days and received a message from a number I didn't save. "Hey it's me, are you still interested? I messaged her primary number she asked for help once again. I said "No, not until we meet". Radio silence since then, although it doesn't appear she has been online in WhatsApp. I'll probably send a message upon arrival, as she was quite the looker but obviously will not oblige to ridiculous amounts for "help".
Aside from this one girl, I do have many assured girls strictly looking for "fun". So, hopefully these girls will accommodate my stay. Of the few on this list there was one that had a seemingly odd request. We messaged a week ago and we agreed on prices and such so seemingly a sure deal. She messages me the day after, "can you do me a favor?" My eyes start rolling as I expected a "please help, anything will do" text but she asks "can you see me first before your other girls?" I ask why, she just replies please again. I say sure as she is a really young beauty. But I'll probably indulge in others before her. Anything I should be wary of for this one girl and her request? Seemingly innocent but I'm not entirely sure.
Ultimately, I'm looking forward to my time in Cebu city and will indulge to my hearts content (hopefully). As such, will do my best to report back here. I plan on purchasing a subscription here in the coming days as I'the like to exchange information with fellow board members and perhaps meet a few of you fellas out here for beers or what not.
-S.
[QUOTE=SamAyaka;2767903]First time traveler to PH, and decided on Cebu based on friends who are traveling with me here and who will leave after two days to Malaysia. As my holiday isn't as long as theirs, I decided to stay my entire holiday in Cebu. All my hotels booked based on some reading from the Hotels forum. As this is my first time mongering abroad (There is the caveat of my time in Chiang Mai and Bangkok Thailand but it was pretty lackluster), I have read up on the numerous reports here on this forum and tried to base my hotel stays around the more popular areas (I. E. , Osmena, IT Park, Ayala etc.).
Given this is a first for me, I have made many "rookie mistakes" that I definitely learned from. Here's a few of such. Downloaded Pina Love and tried to gather up some girls who are willing to accommodate. Messaged one who seemed rather friendly and nice. We chatted for a few days and then "can you please help; I will do anything. Please send for load and food". She was quite the looker so I asked if she could send some pictures or videos. She did and asked for "help". I asked how much, and she replied 5000 pesos. Uh, wtf. I said no, she then kept lowering and lowering. I agreed to send 500 p she was rather happy and sent me some more enticing videos and promised to take good care of me when we met. Yes, I know mistake on my part but definitely learned quick. Fast forward a few weeks and received a message asking for help again. I told her straight up, no. She said it's okay don't worry sent me a few more pictures. Another few weeks pass by, this time with a new reason / excuse she needs help. "Please anything will help, my phone is in the pawn shop and I need help getting it back". Not entirely sure how she would've been messaging me without her phone, perhaps using a friends phone or what not. I ignored this message for a few days and received a message from a number I didn't save. "Hey it's me, are you still interested? I messaged her primary number she asked for help once again. I said "No, not until we meet". Radio silence since then, although it doesn't appear she has been online in WhatsApp. I'll probably send a message upon arrival, as she was quite the looker but obviously will not oblige to ridiculous amounts for "help".
Aside from this one girl, I do have many assured girls strictly looking for "fun". So, hopefully these girls will accommodate my stay. Of the few on this list there was one that had a seemingly odd request. We messaged a week ago and we agreed on prices and such so seemingly a sure deal. She messages me the day after, "can you do me a favor?" My eyes start rolling as I expected a "please help, anything will do" text but she asks "can you see me first before your other girls?" I ask why, she just replies please again. I say sure as she is a really young beauty. But I'll probably indulge in others before her. Anything I should be wary of for this one girl and her request? Seemingly innocent but I'm not entirely sure.
Ultimately, I'm looking forward to my time in Cebu city and will indulge to my hearts content (hopefully). As such, will do my best to report back here. I plan on purchasing a subscription here in the coming days as I'the like to exchange information with fellow board members and perhaps meet a few of you fellas out here for beers or what not.
-S.[/QUOTE]1. Never send money.
2. Only give money after meeting.
3. Have a back up plan.
4. What looks pretty in pictures may not be true in person.
5. Compatibility is a must to keep the girl with you.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2768017]1. Never send money.
2. Only give money after meeting.
3. Have a back up plan.
4. What looks pretty in pictures may not be true in person.
5. Compatibility is a must to keep the girl with you.[/QUOTE]Duly noted. Still learning as I go, hoping to enjoy Cebu as much as I've been fantasizing about these past few days.
[QUOTE=SamAyaka;2768186]Duly noted. Still learning as I go, hoping to enjoy Cebu as much as I've been fantasizing about these past few days.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sammon;2768017]1. Never send money.
2. Only give money after meeting.
3. Have a back up plan.
4. What looks pretty in pictures may not be true in person.
5. Compatibility is a must to keep the girl with you.[/QUOTE]6. Expect many many late / no shows.
7. Don't plan your day around, or wait for, a girl to arrive (see 6 above). Give her a time to meet and a number to call you when she arrives. Then get on with your day. If she is late you haven't wasted time sitting in a cafe waiting for her.
7. Expect 2/10 drop in hotness vs online photos. Video chats are a must before meeting.
8. Don't be afraid to ask if she is a real girl.
9. If everything looks too good to be true then it probably is.
10. Expect to pay some newbie / skin tax. It's part of the learning process. Don't take it personally, it happens to everyone.
11. Don't take anything seriously. Have fun.
12. Don't fall in love.
[QUOTE=SamAyaka;2768186]Duly noted. Still learning as I go, hoping to enjoy Cebu as much as I've been fantasizing about these past few days.[/QUOTE]I may add:
Move to WhatsApp immediately. It seems that meanwhile WhatsApp is their fav mode of communication. Years ago it was messenger or skype.
Ask her what she is working. Factory workers on LapuLapu may only be free on Sundays. Jobless girls with a kid may not be able to leave their baby alone at night. But they can be free for a daytime romp.
Ask them where they are living. Cebu is a big island. Most girls are living in some villages 20 or 40 km north or south. And will then definitely argue that they not have money to come to your place.
Use well known places to meet: Ayala Center in front of Starbucks or similar ones.
Once they say they are coming, ask to send her location. Its easy done on WhatsApp. If she refuses. Move on to the next one.
Good luck.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2768242]6. Expect many many late / no shows.
7. Don't plan your day around, or wait for, a girl to arrive (see 6 above). Give her a time to meet and a number to call you when she arrives. Then get on with your day. If she is late you haven't wasted time sitting in a cafe waiting for her.
7. Expect 2/10 drop in hotness vs online photos. Video chats are a must before meeting.
8. Don't be afraid to ask if she is a real girl.
9. If everything looks too good to be true then it probably is.
10. Expect to pay some newbie / skin tax. It's part of the learning process. Don't take it personally, it happens to everyone.
11. Don't take anything seriously. Have fun.
12. Don't fall in love.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Amadeuss;2768421]I may add:
Move to WhatsApp immediately. It seems that meanwhile WhatsApp is their fav mode of communication. Years ago it was messenger or skype.
Ask her what she is working. Factory workers on LapuLapu may only be free on Sundays. Jobless girls with a kid may not be able to leave their baby alone at night. But they can be free for a daytime romp..[/QUOTE]Fellas, thank you so much. This info / tips are very useful for a newb like me. I really do appreciate it. If any of you are down to grab a drink or hang shoot me a private message.
We met for the first time two days ago. My initial contact was with the girl with the larger breasts, via pinalove, and I took the conversation over to facebook/messenger.
After a few brief chats, she asked if I could help her 'rescue' her phone from the repair shop. 4.8k. I told her I could help her with 1k and asked her to come to my room and told her I wanted to sex her.
After further negotiation we agreed on a price (she asked for 2.5k, I upped to 1.2k, she came down to 2k, I went up to 1.3k and she agreed on that). I then asked her if she had a friend or cousin or sister as I was looking for a threesome. She mentioned her half-sister (they have the same mother but different fathers), and we agreed on 1.3k for each girl plus fare plus food at Jollibee.
So we arranged to meet, but in the end we went to a s/t hotel, not to my room.
I wonder do you use a condom? If not how do you protect yourselves?
[QUOTE=KinkyChris846;2768846]I wonder do you use a condom? If not how do you protect yourselves?[/QUOTE]What's a condom? :-p.
I am also new to this, just like at Sam Ayaka (maybe we can meet) I am, from the beginning of February 3 weeks there. With a weekend break, a wedding in Roxas City.
What is a s / t hotel?
I also play the numern game, and have many girl lined up.
And the condom thing was serious, I love it without, but don't feel like getting sick or having kids, how do you do it?
First day in the books and had quite the day. Met with the one pictured whom I have been messaging on WhatsApp after getting her number on PinaLove about 1-2 months prior to my visit here in Cebu city. Very on and off conversations during that time. Decided to message her after my plans with an in all masseuse service fell through (would eventually like to meet the masseuse, so hopefully will have a report for that when possible).
Sent her a message and asked if we could video chat on WhatsApp. She agreed, I called and she answered. She seemed very much like her photos on her PinaLove (now deleted) but was very definitely hard to tell given her poor internet connection and lagging / choppy video. We attempted to chat via video but was extremely difficult given her connection. We went back to just texting instead. I asked her rates, she quoted 2 k and I asked for 1 k instead. She agreed.
I asked her whether she was 100% a female (per helpful forum member tips and newbie guide, thank you) and she sent me the second photo with her hair in a towel. She replied "don't worry, if I'm a LB I would tell you". Not very reassuring, but I told her straight up that if she is and shows up I wouldn't compensate her for the taxi fare here and to not waste one another's time. So she agreed.
She lets me know she'll be an hour or so to get ready and arrive at my hotel. I'm currently staying at abc hotel per some friendly recommendations over on the hotel forum. I'll post my first impressions and early review for that a bit later. An hour later she texts me she's here and video calls me. Once again, the video connection is terrible so she takes a photo of the lobby elevator and sends me it. I tell her to wait there as I head down.
We meet and she's wearing a mask, hard to tell if her face is similar to photos with mask on, around 5 feet and has a slim spinner figure. We head up to my room where she undress her top and jeans immediately once I close the door. Without her mask she looks a bit older, tired looking in the face but not ugly. She takes off her panties to assure me she isn't a LB. Yes I'm satisfied. So she scurried off to the shower as I wait.
She comes out as we make some small talk. Asks me how old I am, and I ask her the same. She tells me she is 26, but I'm sure she's much older. She lays in bed with me and tells me that if I would like a younger girl she can ask her friend who is 18 or 19 whether she would be interested to see me. She shows me photos on her phone and I'm quite satisfied with what she showed me. I told her to Check with the girl first and get back to me with her contact information if she will agree to meet. She puts her phone down and we get to the down and dirty. Her pussy did have a bit of a stench so I didn't indulge in dining out. We fuck in a few positions and she is quite right considering. Her petite stature made fucking in some positions quite fun. After we finish we're off to the shower. I give her the agreed upon fee and she leaves happily.
Side note, I didn't notice till after she left, she used one of the unused hotel tooth brushes and took it after our Visit. Is this normal? LOL. I did buy a bottle of listerine and had it on the sink counter but I guess she practices really good dental hygiene. Apologies for poor format as I'm typing this out on my mobile.
[QUOTE=KinkyChris846;2769360]
What is a s / t hotel?
And the condom thing was serious, I love it without, but don't feel like getting sick or having kids, how do you do it?[/QUOTE]A s/t hotel is a hotel that rents out rooms by the hour, s/t is an abbreviation of short-time.
My choice to not use condoms is a personal choice, though of course there is a risk of getting an STD. But it's a risk I'm willing to take. Life is full of risks!
[QUOTE=Mdemde;2769775]A s/t hotel is a hotel that rents out rooms by the hour, s/t is an abbreviation of short-time.[/QUOTE]Thank you, how can I find one?
Sam Ayaka: Great report! I hope so see more of that, and please include (if still pressent there PinaLove links or maybe even the contact info.).
[QUOTE=SamAyaka;2769722]First day in the books and had quite the day. Met with the one pictured whom I have been messaging on WhatsApp after getting her number on PinaLove about 1-2 months prior to my visit here in Cebu city.[/QUOTE]I too found her on Pinalove in the time I was in Cebu. And yes, she used my toothbrush as well. I'm happy for the girls to do that. For me I admired her killer body, no baby status and full boobs.
I didn't have much time to prepare for my visit there. Although Cebu is known for GFE scene it is still possible to arrive, set up an account and meet same day. Just have to stay focused on location and not wasting time on girls that are far away. There were enough there.
Are you still in Cebu? Maybe I can share you some that got away from me.
AP.
[QUOTE=KinkyChris846;2769360]
I also play the numern game, and have many girl lined up.
And the condom thing was serious, I love it without, but don't feel like getting sick or having kids, how do you do it?[/QUOTE]If you are just looking for numbers, then the easiest and most time efficient way to do it is to just wait until you are in your hotel and then message girls that you are here now. Many will be pleasantly surprised and offer to come over now or, at worst after work. That's much better than getting numbers and organising to meet weeks or months later. It's amazing the number of girls who disappear after promising to meet. Keep it simple and you will be happiest.
Bare back sex is the default in the Philippines. However there are risks which the monger must assess for them selves. There is no secret solution.
Second days experience and quite the surprising one. Was not expecting to receive a message through this app so it caught me by surprise. Prior to leaving for my trip my main source of findigg by and contacting girls were either pinalove or dateinasia (not much success with the latter). But upon opening my chatting app WeChat I notice a friend request from the cute girl in the pictures. For those unaware with WeChat it's a popular chatting app in Asian countries such as China that's similar to a mix of Facebook and WhatsApp. I mainly use this app for communication with family and business back home.
So within WeChat there is a "discover" option for here you can see people nearby. The first time you use this it'll prompt you that enabling the feature will allow others to view you within their vicinity as well, which is quite convenient. So just a few words of advice for those considering installing and using WeChat. Avoid using any identifiers such as real name, email etc in your username and make sure it doesn't display your primary phone number too. So that being said I quickly changed my username from what it was to something generic. Click the discover option on the bottom of the app, then "people nearby". There are three dots on the top right where you can filter between "females only, male only or show all" whatever you fancy. Your "friend requests" will also show in this three dot menu under "greetings" where you can accept / decline or block said requests.
So I received a request from a user with a username in Chinese characters along with a China and Vietnam flag emoji. I assumed she was a freelance worker from one of those countries here working in Cebu, but upon examine her posts in her profile it seems she caters to many Chinese, Vietnamese or Korean customers.
She messages me after I accept her request and says "let's meet". We make some small talk as I try to sus out whether she is a LB or not. But from her posts I was quite certain she wasn't. I asked her for her rates and was quoted p2500, so I asked whether she could do p1500. She said "sure, I'll give you a discount". Damn, I probably could've negotiated or bargained lower. Note for my future self. After a quick video call within WeChat we agreed to meet the next morning. Cue to the next morning as I prepare for the meet. She shows up 30 minutes after agreed time, in a revealing outfit which got me quite excited to see it off and what will be about to take place.
Now we're back in my room where we make some small talk before she showers. She comes out wrapped in a towel and goes lay down. She's acting very shy and sheepish as I undress. I remove her towel to see a nice rack with a bit of a flabby stomachs. Not fat or anything. So to start with first impressions, her profile posts and picture show her skin looks more bleached / white than in person. I guess this is to appeal to more foreign Asian customers. As for her face it does appear that she has quite the amount of makeup to hide the fact she has acne. I didn't mind these things as I thought she was quite beautiful. After I undress and lay on bed, she gets up to go to her bag to get something. She's walking back sheepishly hiding the box she retrieved. I thought it was a box of cigarettes that she would light up before our session. I ask her what it was, and she whispers condoms and lubricant. I laugh, relieved it wasn't cigarettes that she will light up incurring a fine for me, and told her I had my own. She lays back down and proceeds to suck me off. We fuck in many positions all over the bed before I eventually nut. We get up and shower off. She asks me if I want her to go, I reply yes as I did have plans for the day. I give her the agreed fee and she leaves with a smil. I enjoyed my time with her and probably would avail her services again if I can't find anything else (but unlikely).
Overall I'm surprised at I fine girls via WeChat, but glad it's an additional option in this game. Hope others may find success with this option too. Happy hunting.
[QUOTE=KinkyChris846;2769832]Thank you, how can I find one?
Sam Ayaka: Great report! I hope so see more of that, and please include (if still pressent there PinaLove links or maybe even the contact info.).[/QUOTE]Thanks buddy, I'll definitely include links to profile of available. Pm me for her contact info.
[QUOTE=Mdemde;2769775]A s/t hotel is a hotel that rents out rooms by the hour, s/t is an abbreviation of short-time.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=KinkyChris846;2769832]Thank you, how can I find one?[/QUOTE]Most taxi-drivers know where the S/T hotels are located.
Here are the names of a few, you should be able to find them on googlemaps;
Travelers Resthouse and D New Inn (both located just across the road from Robinsons Galleria in Cebu City)
Queensland (several locations, one just up the road from Robinsons Galleria, one just across the road from the north entrance to Park Mall in Mandaue City, other locations include Lapu-Lapu City and Consolacion)
Prince Court in Mandaue City
After two days of success, I suffer my first loss. This won't be as long of a post as my prior two reports, but I figured writing this will help newbs like me for their future visits. So I found "her" on pinalove a week prior to my trip here. I'm sure you can see where this post is going now.
To start the profile only had one picture (seemingly with filters) and in the bio specifically stated only looking for fun. These two factors should've alerted me of the potential red flags. Message back and forth and agreed to meet for p1000. We video call and nothing really raised my suspicions at that point. The video was a bit choppy but I just assumed it's a poor connection. I ask if she's a LB, replied no. Looked similar to photos so I agreed ti meet. Looking back, she did ask what hotel and room #. So I'm thinking maybe asking what room number was a way to bypass meeting in lobby and avoiding the guard. I replied the elevator needed a key card ti operate.
Fast forward to when she arrives and upon the elevator doors opening I see that she's uglier in person and had a peach fuzz mustache. This should've been my chance to refuse to meet and just jet back to my room, but being a newb and not knowing better / freezing in the moment she steps in and I return ti room.
Back in the room she sits on the corner of the bed and asks for payment. I said I'll pay after. She tells me to undress and lay down. I ask don't you need to shower, replies already did. More red flags. I ask her to undress she tells me to do so first. I say no. Starts getting defensive and saying "why only me". My last red flag and now I know for certain it's a lb. I angrily ask whether she was a lb she again says no. I sigh, walk to my luggage ti retrieve my wallet and grab p200 and said take this, it'll cover your cab ride from here and back to wherever. She starts getting offended and saying what do you think I am, why are you playing games with me. I started getting mad and say you're a lb and you lied to me before and still are, you wasted my time. She starts going through her phone refusing to accept the p200 and also dialing a number to call. This part got me a bit worried as I thought she was calling for back up or something. But she quickly hangs up. Just stalling tactics. I go back grab p500 and say here now just leave. She again says what about my time and services. I again reply you wasted my time and lied about everything and that p500 was more than enough to cover cab fees. She would not budge. At this point I'm fuming at this piece of shit and at myself for being such an idiot. I eventually succumb, because I did not want her in here any longer, grab a p1000 said here, now get the fuck out. She snatched it started proceeding to the door. I open the door she steps out turns back to say something I slam the door in her face. Quickly lock the door too.
I go back in my room sit down and reflect what a shit show this was and feeling extremely down. I decided not to try to find another girl for the night to makeup for the loss.
See attached photos of this person. Avoid on pinalove, seems she blocked me there. Her username was something like maria22022. I'm unsure if I can post the WhatsApp number, but if someone can confirm I'll post a follow up post listing it. Fellow newbs reading, be safe and learn from my mistake.
Looking forward to my next girl to make up for a wasted day and shitty experience.
Started my morning with coffe at a nearby cafe. Opened up WeChat ti see if I received any new friend requests. Sure enough, 10 new requests. I sort through each one and check their profile pictures and the photos on their profiles if public. Eventually sorted down to three, while ignoring some and blocking the ones I suspect are LB. Settled and picked the one pictured. We chat for a while, where she quotes me her rates being 3-4000. I say I can only do p1000 (learned from my previous reports that I should be better at negotiating / bargaining). She tells me p1500 and I reply p1200 to which she agrees.
From yesterdays shit experience I make it a top priority that she's not verify that she's not a LB. She assures me she isn't. I ask to video chat later in the day, she agrees and I schedule a time for us to chat.
Fast forward to the evening where we video chat. She's relatively close to where I'm staying. Again I ask "are you a 100% girl or a lb". She again responds and assures me she is 100% a girl. "Don't worry, I promise you I am not a LB". I tell her where I'm staying, she says she can get here in 10 minutes, I tell her to come in 20 so I can have time to prepare etc. She then shows up in 30 minutes, LOL. She messages me that she is in the lobby and I make my way down. As the door open, I see her and yes she is as pictured. We head back to my room. She undressed and is not sheepish to reveal her body or cover her parts. She showers and comes out and lays in my bed with her wet towels while climbing under the sheets. A pet peeve of mine, but oh well.
We make some small talk, and she asks why do you keep asking me if I'm a Lb, her tone implied she was a bit offended / embarrassed because she does have a raspy / husky voice (perhaps a smoker). I tell her my experience / encounter from yesterday while leaving some details out because I was embarrassed. She understands and sympathizes. She tells me some red flags to look out for. Here were the ones I do remember.
1-They ask for payment before services rendered because they know they'll likely leave without entire agreed payment.
2-The obvious, such as a pronounced adams apple, arm and bone structure.
3-Pitched voice. Definitely try to distinguish during the video call. If something seems off, just call it off.
4-Unfocused / shifty movement during video call.
These may seem obvious to some but may be helpful to others especially newbs.
We begin our session after she asks me to turn some lights off and acting a bit shy. She starts with a splendid BJ and after a few minutes she pauses for some air and asks do you want more? I reply yes, if you can. She laughs and says let me rest a bit. She continues. We then fuck in a number of positions which she is very into. Thrusting her hips to match my thrusts, moaning and biting her lips. Quite hot and after some time I bust. We lay there sweaty and catching our breaths.
We showed off and lay back in bed for small talk. She tells me about her family, and how she'll return home after being away for 6 months from her daughter. She also tells me how she will eventually get married and move to a different country and how she's just working now to save up for her papers. The time spent with her was very insightful and I really enjoyed my time with her. After some rest she asks when can I leave. I laugh and say I'm not holding you hostage, you can go whenever you want. She apologized and says she's rather tired from the day. She gets up to dress, and offers some more newb advice to me. "Just be careful when meeting girls, make sure your things are properly locked in the safe or luggage. You'll never know the type of girls you're inviting back". Of course this is one of the most important things in our game, and for sure these are things I always practice. I thank her for the advice, give her the payment and a bottle of water and see her off.
Just a note from this session; she asked that no photos to be taken during and I kindly agreed. So the attached photos are those that she posted publicly on her profile.
Day 5 was a rest day for me, and a day I set aside to do all my touristy stuff.
Day 6 had promise as I was chatting up a girl I met earlier in the morning. We set a planned time to meet and possibly have dinner prior to our fun. However, as the time came closer to meet she ghosted me. I didn't waste too much time waiting (30 minutes) but still wasted time is precious valuable time. Note to future self, stick to a set time to meet. Allow some leeway for the girl to show. Check with her and ask for location to be sent via WhatsApp or whatever messaging app being used. So I decided to go grab some food and have a walk around mango ave after. Saw some FL around, some obvious LB, and very aggressive solicitors promising young beautiful girls waiting in a boarding house or invitations to a bikini bar. None of the FL were to my liking, plus generally don't trust these aggressive street solicitors.
Decided to head back to my room. Messaged girl from my day 4 post. I informed her that I've moved to a new hotel. She takes a bit to search it up and tell me how long it'll be till she arrives. Tells me 15 minutes. I assume 20-25, but surprisingly she shows up in less than 15. I tell her my room number and she comes up. Knocks on my door and I let her in. The session was more or less the same as the other day but this time she was ok with a cream pie. However, she again said no to my picture and photo request. She tells me she only allows photos after she gets to know you well enough. Oh well, I highly doubt I'll ever get to that point to be honest. After we finish she invites me to go to a night market with her but I politely decline as I was spent. I give her the fee and send her on her way.
[URL]https://www.dateinasia.com/[/URL]
Its the second time my account gets "Your account (and profile) has been closed. " do you have any tips on that site, how good is it? Should I pore more afford into it?
[QUOTE=KinkyChris846;2772316][URL]https://www.dateinasia.com/[/URL]
Its the second time my account gets "Your account (and profile) has been closed. " do you have any tips on that site, how good is it? Should I pore more afford into it?[/QUOTE]I have been using the same account on DIA for more than 3 years without any problems. I have read reports from other posters here that if you mention 'sex' or 'money' or similar words when chatting to the girls, your account will get closed down. And the site does not like 'copy and paste' type conversations. After you start to chat with the girls on DIA (keep the chat as clean as you can), my advice would be to get them off there and over to facebook or whataspp and continue on from there where you can freely discuss anything you want!
[QUOTE=SamAyaka;2771042]After two days of success, I suffer my first loss. This won't be as long of a post as my prior two reports, but I figured writing this will help newbs like me for their future visits. So I found "her" on pinalove a week prior to my trip here. I'm sure you can see where this post is going now.
To start the profile only had one picture (seemingly with filters) and in the bio specifically stated only looking for fun. These two factors should've alerted me of the potential red flags. Message back and forth and agreed to meet for p1000. We video call and nothing really raised my suspicions at that point. The video was a bit choppy but I just assumed it's a poor connection. I ask if she's a LB, replied no. Looked similar to photos so I agreed ti meet. Looking back, she did ask what hotel and room #. So I'm thinking maybe asking what room number was a way to bypass meeting in lobby and avoiding the guard. I replied the elevator needed a key card ti operate.
Fast forward to when she arrives and upon the elevator doors opening I see that she's uglier in person and had a peach fuzz mustache. This should've been my chance to refuse to meet and just jet back to my room, but being a newb and not knowing better / freezing in the moment she steps in and I return ti room.
Back in the room she sits on the corner of the bed and asks for payment. I said I'll pay after. She tells me to undress and lay down. I ask don't you need to shower, replies already did. More red flags. I ask her to undress she tells me to do so first. I say no. Starts getting defensive and saying "why only me". My last red flag and now I know for certain it's a lb. I angrily ask whether she was a lb she again says no. I sigh, walk to my luggage ti retrieve my wallet and grab p200 and said take this, it'll cover your cab ride from here and back to wherever. She starts getting offended and saying what do you think I am, why are you playing games with me. I started getting mad and say you're a lb and you lied to me before and still are, you wasted my time. She starts going through her phone refusing to accept the p200 and also dialing a number to call. This part got me a bit worried as I thought she was calling for back up or something. But she quickly hangs up. Just stalling tactics. I go back grab p500 and say here now just leave. She again says what about my time and services. I again reply you wasted my time and lied about everything and that p500 was more than enough to cover cab fees. She would not budge. At this point I'm fuming at this piece of shit and at myself for being such an idiot. I eventually succumb, because I did not want her in here any longer, grab a p1000 said here, now get the fuck out. She snatched it started proceeding to the door. I open the door she steps out turns back to say something I slam the door in her face. Quickly lock the door too.
I go back in my room sit down and reflect what a shit show this was and feeling extremely down. I decided not to try to find another girl for the night to makeup for the loss.
See attached photos of this person. Avoid on pinalove, seems she blocked me there. Her username was something like maria22022. I'm unsure if I can post the WhatsApp number, but if someone can confirm I'll post a follow up post listing it. Fellow newbs reading, be safe and learn from my mistake.
Looking forward to my next girl to make up for a wasted day and shitty experience.[/QUOTE]When you saw her in the lobby and realized she was a lb why didn't I tell security to throw her out.
[QUOTE=KinkyChris846;2772316][URL]https://www.dateinasia.com/[/URL]
Its the second time my account gets "Your account (and profile) has been closed. " do you have any tips on that site, how good is it? Should I pore more afford into it?[/QUOTE]Same as mdemde I use DIA and also [URL]oyoy.com[/URL] which is a copy of DIA, since many years without any issue.
But after 2 or 3 messages I ask for messenger or WhatsApp and switch there.
Some times ago I noticed a warning message coming from admin after asking for WhatsApp or messenger, and saying that it was a warning because I ask to move on other tools too quickly and they could close my account for that. So I stayed careful to have at least 5 messages before asking.
But now I don't see anymore this warning and I can ask after 2 messages.
[QUOTE=SamAyaka;2771042]After two days of success, I suffer my first loss. This won't be as long of a post as my prior two reports, but I figured writing this will help newbs like me for their future visits. So I found "her" on pinalove a week prior to my trip here. I'm sure you can see where this post is going now.
To start the profile only had one picture (seemingly with filters) and in the bio specifically stated only looking for fun. These two factors should've alerted me of the potential red flags. Message back and forth and agreed to meet for p1000. We video call and nothing really raised my suspicions at that point. The video was a bit choppy but I just assumed it's a poor connection. I ask if she's a LB, replied no. Looked similar to photos so I agreed ti meet. Looking back, she did ask what hotel and room #. So I'm thinking maybe asking what room number was a way to bypass meeting in lobby and avoiding the guard. I replied the elevator needed a key card ti operate.
Fast forward to when she arrives and upon the elevator doors opening I see that she's uglier in person and had a peach fuzz mustache. This should've been my chance to refuse to meet and just jet back to my room, but being a newb and not knowing better / freezing in the moment she steps in and I return ti room.
Back in the room she sits on the corner of the bed and asks for payment. I said I'll pay after. She tells me to undress and lay down. I ask don't you need to shower, replies already did. More red flags. I ask her to undress she tells me to do so first. I say no. Starts getting defensive and saying "why only me". My last red flag and now I know for certain it's a lb. I angrily ask whether she was a lb she again says no. I sigh, walk to my luggage ti retrieve my wallet and grab p200 and said take this, it'll cover your cab ride from here and back to wherever. She starts getting offended and saying what do you think I am, why are you playing games with me. I started getting mad and say you're a lb and you lied to me before and still are, you wasted my time. She starts going through her phone refusing to accept the p200 and also dialing a number to call. This part got me a bit worried as I thought she was calling for back up or something. But she quickly hangs up. Just stalling tactics. I go back grab p500 and say here now just leave. She again says what about my time and services. I again reply you wasted my time and lied about everything and that p500 was more than enough to cover cab fees. She would not budge. At this point I'm fuming at this piece of shit and at myself for being such an idiot. I eventually succumb, because I did not want her in here any longer, grab a p1000 said here, now get the fuck out. She snatched it started proceeding to the door. I open the door she steps out turns back to say something I slam the door in her face. Quickly lock the door too.
I go back in my room sit down and reflect what a shit show this was and feeling extremely down. I decided not to try to find another girl for the night to makeup for the loss.
See attached photos of this person. Avoid on pinalove, seems she blocked me there. Her username was something like maria22022. I'm unsure if I can post the WhatsApp number, but if someone can confirm I'll post a follow up post listing it. Fellow newbs reading, be safe and learn from my mistake.
Looking forward to my next girl to make up for a wasted day and shitty experience.[/QUOTE]I also had a similar experience. My fault, late night was horny. I also asked if she was a LB multiple times. Same kind of shit in the room. Except I wasnt having any of it. She tried to call her pimp but I wasnt giving her a dime. She wanted 2 k to go away. I told her I didn't have the cash in the room and had to get it from the ATM in the hotel lobby. She followed me down and I told security to get rid of her. Never gave her a dime but gave security guard 500 for his trouble. Much more deserved.
Its sometimes difficult to recon a LB at a dark road with all their tricks they have. If I have my doubts, then I ask him / her other questions then "are you a lb". They will rarely tell you the truth.
"Are you bottom or top". Most will fall for it and reply.
"I like a small size. You got? Is another one they may ask with "You really like it?
"You take hormones?" . If heshe say yes, you know.
"I like to fuck your ass!" ,and the answer is ". Yes, I give it to you" then you can bet its a LB.
[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2773122]Its sometimes difficult to recon a LB at a dark road with all their tricks they have. If I have my doubts, then I ask him / her other questions then "are you a lb". They will rarely tell you the truth.
"Are you bottom or top". Most will fall for it and reply.
"I like a small size. You got? Is another one they may ask with "You really like it?
"You take hormones?" . If heshe say yes, you know.
"I like to fuck your ass!" ,and the answer is ". Yes, I give it to you" then you can bet its a LB.[/QUOTE]They rarely tell the truth because once the LB gets into the bedroom, someone is getting fucked and sucked. The monger's only remaining choice is top or bottom.
Yesterday afternoon, with one of my regulars at a S/T hotel.
With one of my regulars in my room, just before Christmas. She's due to give birth to her first child next week. She's not normally shy about me photographing her body, but about 4 or 5 months into her pregnancy she point-blank refused to let me photograph her body!
[QUOTE=SamAyaka;2771415]Started my morning with coffe at a nearby cafe. Opened up WeChat ti see if I received any new friend requests. Sure enough, 10 new requests. I sort through each one and check their profile pictures and the photos on their profiles if public. Eventually sorted down to three, while ignoring some and blocking the ones I suspect are LB. Settled and picked the one pictured. We chat for a while, where she quotes me her rates being 3-4000. I say I can only do p1000 (learned from my previous reports that I should be better at negotiating / bargaining). She tells me p1500 and I reply p1200 to which she agrees.
From yesterdays shit experience I make it a top priority that she's not verify that she's not a LB. She assures me she isn't. I ask to video chat later in the day, she agrees and I schedule a time for us to chat.
Fast forward to the evening where we video chat. She's relatively close to where I'm staying. Again I ask "are you a 100% girl or a lb". She again responds and assures me she is 100% a girl. "Don't worry, I promise you I am not a LB". I tell her where I'm staying, she says she can get here in 10 minutes, I tell her to come in 20 so I can have time to prepare etc. She then shows up in 30 minutes, LOL. She messages me that she is in the lobby and I make my way down. As the door open, I see her and yes she is as pictured. We head back to my room. She undressed and is not sheepish to reveal her body or cover her parts. She showers and comes out and lays in my bed with her wet towels while climbing under the sheets. A pet peeve of mine, but oh well.
We make some small talk, and she asks why do you keep asking me if I'm a Lb, her tone implied she was a bit offended / embarrassed because she does have a raspy / husky voice (perhaps a smoker). I tell her my experience / encounter from yesterday while leaving some details out because I was embarrassed. She understands and sympathizes. She tells me some red flags to look out for. Here were the ones I do remember.[/QUOTE]Can you share any contact info? I'm going to be in Cebu next week and have not had much luck with pinalove outside of a couple of scammers.
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Last month in Cebu City.
[QUOTE=Mdemde;2789109]In Cebu City at the beginning of this month.[/QUOTE]Good looking girls. From the way it looks in the pics, I'm guessing 18-19 years?? Found on Pina or DIA?
The 4th pic is killer, would love to grind on her bubble butt. Do you keep in contact with these ladies or just one timers?
[QUOTE=Bosshog2;2789118]Good looking girls. From the way it looks in the pics, I'm guessing 18-19 years?? Found on Pina or DIA?[/QUOTE]Good guess, one was 18, one was 20, the girls were brought to me by a provider. I arranged a meet with a girl I met online a few years ago and I asked her if she could bring a friend with her, which she did. This friend turned out to be a provider and was the one who brought me these girls.
[QUOTE=Bosshog2;2789118]The 4th pic is killer, would love to grind on her bubble butt. Do you keep in contact with these ladies or just one timers?[/QUOTE]It depends on the girl. If you want some contact details please send me a PM.
[QUOTE=Mdemde;2789344]Good guess, one was 18, one was 20, the girls were brought to me by a provider. I arranged a meet with a girl I met online a few years ago and I asked her if she could bring a friend with her, which she did. This friend turned out to be a provider and was the one who brought me these girls.
It depends on the girl. If you want some contact details please send me a PM.[/QUOTE]Wow, that's pretty neat, so you got a girl that just brings you all sorts of different ladies that need some financial assistance?
Yep, I figured one was 18. How was she? GFE? No GFE? Does she get into it or no? Also, were you her first foreigner or has she done it before??
I want the one in the 4th pic and I guess the 5th, same girl in both pics right? I truly hope you got to prone bone either one of them, because they both have nice booties.
[QUOTE=Bosshog2;2789774]Wow, that's pretty neat, so you got a girl that just brings you all sorts of different ladies that need some financial assistance?
[/QUOTE]It is quite easy to arrange. Meet one girl for fun, then afterwards ask her if she has any friends who want to meet for fun. I have a few providers in Cebu. Threesomes are common this way if that is your thing.
[QUOTE=Bosshog2;2789774]Wow, that's pretty neat, so you got a girl that just brings you all sorts of different ladies that need some financial assistance?
Yep, I figured one was 18. How was she? GFE? No GFE? Does she get into it or no? Also, were you her first foreigner or has she done it before??
I want the one in the 4th pic and I guess the 5th, same girl in both pics right? I truly hope you got to prone bone either one of them, because they both have nice booties.[/QUOTE]That is the Friends and Family Plan. You have to be a member in good standing for it to work. Not an asshole and cheap Charlie.
[QUOTE=Python75;2789888]It is quite easy to arrange. Meet one girl for fun, then afterwards ask her if she has any friends who want to meet for fun. I have a few providers in Cebu. Threesomes are common this way if that is your thing.[/QUOTE]Or look at her Facebook and cherry pick those you like to meet.
Ask her if she OK and can she arrange.
Plenty opportunities that way.
Hey,
I am going to Cebu on April, what are some good places for mongering hot girls?
Brothels recommendations?
Escort website recommendations?
Any specific venues?
Thanks.
I banged Kier917 on PinaLove. I think I was able to attach her photo. Overall I would not repeat although she did make me blow my load quickly twice in 10 minutes. More because I was backed up. Not going to make this a long report due to shitty internet. Will try to post a couple more reports while in Cebu. Honestly I would like to spit roast or have a person orgy where we pass some girls around while I am here but I don't think I am going to be able to schedule that late night with some other interested mongers in the city.
Banged Maria from Smooci. Much easier experience when you are crunched for time. I was able to get her in my hotel room in like 30 minutes after booking. Somewhat expensive at 5 k. But none of my PinaLove interests panned out. Would repeat especially if you can get her for like 3 k.
Maria got me a threesome with her friend! It was a great time. Friends pic attached. First threesome for me. Definitely an experience worth having nothing like getting your dick sucked by two women at the same time then getting to blow a load in one while making out with the other.
This diary continues from the Manila and Angeles pages.
I woke at 9 am and did most of my packing before going back to bed for another great session with Jennifer. No handcuffs this time, but she mounted me reverse cowgirl and made me pull her hair.
Before the trip I was worried about the number of Dexy's (midnight runners) but aside from one, all of the girls I have barfined have stayed all night until at least midday. 4000-5000 is a lot to pay for a barfine but you definitely get your money's worth in Angeles.
Macca and I shared a minibus taxi to Clark Airport for our 3. 30 pm Philippines Airlines flight to Cebu. We boarded a propeller plane and the views were excellent throughout the flight. We raced through the airport at the other end, picking our luggage up almost straight away and getting a cab from outside the airport immediately. The fare was 288 to Macca's fancy hotel The Waterfront, and a further 83 to get to mine.
I'm staying at a nice little condo on the 14th floor of Horizon 101, Cebu's tallest building. The bedroom is a little small but the lounge is modern and spacious with excellent views from the balcony.
I met Macca at Cubana at 8. 30, a bar on a side street next to my hotel. A decent band played cover versions as I devoured a large pepperoni pizza. Apparently this is a place to maybe pick up freelancers later at night but I saw precious few signs of action at this time.
We crossed the street to The Philly, which is a gents bar where the gogo bar Pussycat used to be. Although it was a Sunday night and relatively quiet, I saw some nice girls, including a cutie with braces and long curly hair. We sat outside and watched a band play, who were decent until they invited people from the bar to sing for them. A very loud, tone deaf British man murdered REMs 'Losing My Religion', before a Filipino girl picked things up with some Taylor Swift.
There is no barfine at this bar but if you like a girl you can buy her a drink and she'll spend time chatting with you. If romance blossoms, you can arrange to meet either when she finishes at 3 am or during the daytime. I bought a drink for a pretty girl who despite being early twenties was mother to four children. Her drink cost 250 pesos, which came in a glass bottle shaped like a penis. If you want to be more extravagant, you can buy your lady champagne for 399 or a shot tray for 1500.
I was asking her about things to do in Cebu when she casually slipped in she was off work on Tuesday. I got her Whatsapp number as I thought she might be a good option for a daytime meeting.
Next we went to the small row of bars opposite Iglesia Ni Cristo church. The time was 10.30. In the past (over ten years ago) I've taken a lot of girls from these bars, so it was sad to the likes of BG Bikini Bar and Erik the Red closed. However Viking, now renamed Kakadu, was still open. I'll admit, I had low expectations as I descended the steps but I was pleasantly surprised to walk in to a lively bar with lots of girls. To all intents and purposes, it's a gogo bar but with only one or two girls slow-dancing at a time.
However, things went downhill. Firstly Macca and I were immediately followed to our seats by two girls. The one that wedged herself next to me was perfectly pleasant but why do bars do this? I want to pick the girl. It only leads to an awkward moment when the waitress appears and asks 'drink for lady sir? ' and you have to say no.
When left to my own devices I spotted a lovely girl sat nearby in a blue bikini. I bought her a drink and she ordered herself a tequila. Her name was Evia, she was 21 and she was exactly the kind of girl I go for. She was pretty, sweet and giggly. It was only her third day at the bar, she had no kids and a banging body.
But then the bar's greediness reared it's ugly head.
I asked Evia how much was the barfine and she had to call the mamasan over as she didn't know. The mamasan told me that it is 5000 pesos, which is a lot of money (top rate for Angeles gogo bars) but I didn't mind as this girl was worth it. However, the mamasan went on to explain that it's the bar's 'policy' that the customer must also buy the girl five ladydrinks! I flat out refused. Firstly that means that the barfine isn't 5000, it's about 6500. Secondly it's bad for the girls health and my wallet!
Tellingly the mamasan said 'okay four drinks' when she saw my incredulous reaction, then came down to three and then two. Funny how quickly the policy was relaxed!
I stood my ground and told her I will happily pay the barfine but no more drinks. We reached a stalemate and I walked out empty-handed. The mamasan's greediness had cost the bar a 5 K barfine.
We went to Mango Square next, which now comprises of two nightclubs Clubholic and Uptown Vibe. We chose the latter as it seemed the busiest, with a small queue of excitable locals outside. After paying the small entrance fee we walked in to a very loud club, filled almost entirely with Filipino people. Macca quickly decided it wasn't his scene and left, leaving me on my own. The place was heaving and there was definitely pick up potential. There were lots of groups of Filipinas and older girls, usually in twos, skirting the dancefloor. A few foxy older chicks flirted with me but I was looking for someone younger.
I'd spent the previous night clubbing in Angeles and my feet were screaming submission, so I decided to leave after an hour. With more time on my hands, this club would be a good place to score. But with time marching on I wanted to procure a lady's service as quickly as possible.
There were two streetwalkers on the street outside, both mid-thirties I'd guess. But instead I walked along General Maxilom Avenue, when a male bouncer tried to cajole me in to Jane. I told him what had happened at Viking and that I am looking to barfine a girl but will not pay for five ladydrinks as well. 'Yes, no problem sir, follow me'.
I followed him up the stairs to what felt more like a boys social club. Eight locals were playing pool and six more were chatting on the couches, watching a girl slow-dancing on a stage. I was taken to a couch on the right where 10 girls stood up and smiled to me. It was a decent selection of girls, albeit older than the girls in Viking. I didn't see a standout so selected the girl with the nicest figure. And by 'nice figure' I mean reasonably slim with big tits.
She had a pale-skinned Japanese look about her, her name was Alyssa and she was 26. She quoted me 5000 for long-time but I wanted my bed to myself tonight, so we settled on 4000 for short-time. It's not cheap. 4000 was getting me longtime and multiple pops in Angeles.
She had a fabulous figure when she undressed in front of the large mirror in the lounge of my condo. She was small and curvy with big fake tits. My cock twitched in my pants just looking at her.
We lay on my bed naked, kissing for only a few minutes when she asked 'you have condom? ' I said yes but I'd like her to suck me first. Her blowjob skills were excellent. As well as sucking me slow and deep, she teased me with the tip of her tongue, along the shaft and the area beneath my balls where the G-spot is. As she worked her magic I fondled her perfect tits.
My dick was straining at the leash to get in to her pussy. She wasn't the prettiest (a 6/10 if I was generous) but she really turned me on. She was very tight but before long I'd slid in to her and we were fucking, slowly, with lots of kissing. I enjoy giving a girl with big tits a good pounding and watching her prize assets wobbling like jellies.
She then went on top and rode me Asian cowgirl at first, bouncing up and down, then leaned forward with her tits on my chest and wiggled her hips skilfully until I shot my load.
It was enjoyable, albeit overpriced, quickie.
[QUOTE=SirLancelot;2793213]
But then the bar's greediness reared it's ugly head...
Her blowjob skills were excellent..[/QUOTE]Looks like you found the two extremes of Cebu:
1/. The bars there truely suck. Expect outrageous prices, multiple conditions and even minimum work hours before leaving.
2/. BJs feature prominently. One trip, I had every girl except one totally up for deep throat and full on face fucking. No idea why it was so popular.
I'm not sure if your reports are real time or if you are home now but remember that Cebu is the online capital of PI. If you are struggling with bars, then just go online. There are many great girls to choose from and good prices.
Enjoy. G.
After a good night's sleep I walked the short distance to Robinson's mall to get some cash out. The ATMs on the street seem to struggle with foreign cards for some reason.
While I was there I couldn't resist checking out the food court, a good place in days gone by for opportunists to get the number of girls who either work or shop at the mall. My main memory of it though was arranging to meet the most perfect girl I barfined from the now defunct Hot Rod for lunch. She was very inexperienced ('am I doing it right?) and looked even cuter without makeup on next day. Sadly though she bought her cousin with her, a definite case of three's a crowd.
I spent the afternoon doing some sightseeing. A lot of Cebu's main sights are located within easy walking distance of each other. Basilica Minore del Santo Nino was very impressive and in the peaceful central garden a 50 year old Filipina asked if she could have her photo taken with me. After her friend had taken the pic, she jokingly proposed to me. I didn't have the heart to tell her I'm in Philippines to fuck girls probably younger than her daughter.
Nearby is Magellan's Cross and then a short walk away a good view of fisherman with the massive Cordova Link Expressway behind them, a bridge which stretches in to the horizon. At Fort San Pedro I saw a candidate for the prettiest girl I've seen in Cebu so far. Beautiful dark skin, face of an angel and she kept looking over to me and smiling. She was wearing a uniform, so I suspect was part of an organised trip.
By the time I got back to my hotel and had showered, I was in the mood for some Tinder action.
I instantly had two bites. Amanda, a cute 21 year old and Faith, a voluptuous 26 year old who seemed a guaranteed wild time. I decided I was in the mood for the latter and 45 minutes later she was in my room. She had a decent resemblance to her pics and the most luscious big lips I've ever seen. We kissed passionately on my couch and soon she was riding me as I buried my face in to her tits. I fucked her hard doggy style before she finished me with a spectacular blowjob.
I gave her the agreed 1500 and a tip for an enthusiastic performance.
Macca also had an afternoon session, with a cute and innocent looking girl he met on DateinAsia, great value for just 1000. He's met some lovely looking girls from the site but sadly I don't have the time and patience for it. I prefer the immediacy of Tinder. I end up paying more as the girls are more pro but I find it exciting.
I ate at Cubana again and then at 9. 30 went for a drink at Bamboozers. There were four girls sat outside, one of whom was young and pretty and followed me inside to take my order. But after she served my drink she returned outside before I had chance to ask what her name was. The bar was dark inside with good music and probably ten girls in total. An older girl joined me and I innocently asked how does the bar work. Her reply neatly summed it up:
'It's just a normal bar. Ladies get drinks for company. We don't have barfine but girls can meet at 3 am after work if they like customers.
Next door is Sisters, a bikini bar. It's worth reiterating that the only difference between a bikini bar and a gogo bar is there is only one girl dancing. I got swarmed by five girls when I sat down. Two older pros sat either side of me and fired rat-a-tat-tat questions at me like an interrogation. I almost got whiplash turning from one to the other to answer them. Sat opposite were two exquisite creatures. Both were young and very pretty. One was curvier with dark skin and a lovely warm smile while the other had the face of a model. Either would have been a great choice but I opted to buy a drink for the latter as she had a distinctive look.
Normally buying a drink for a girl is the cue for the others to go away, but not here. It was definitely a case of five's a crowd as I tried to get to know Tessa. She was just 21 and had a beautiful face and a mesmeric smile. She seemed to like me so I enquired about the barfine. It was 4000 for short-time and unlike Viking there was no five ladydrinks scam. Deal.
I asked if she was hungry and when she said yes we stopped at a 7 Eleven. I thought she might ask me to buy some chicken and rice for her but instead she placed a big bar of Dairy Milk chocolate on to the counter. In the room we watched a soppy Reese Witherspoon romcom on Netflix that in my opinion was more rom than com.
Eventually we adjourned to the bedroom. She had a fabulous figure and I sucked her perfect nipples as I fingered her pussy. Normally I find kissing is the perfect foreplay but Tessa turned her head away when I leaned in. I was surprised because when we were watching the movie she was affectionate, holding my hand and snuggling up. 'Do you have condom? ' she asked.
So far, so underwhelming, but then I slid in to her incredibly tight shaven pussy and it was a joy to see such a pretty girl beneath me. She had her eyes closed tightly but softly groaned each time I pushed all the way in. I alternated between slow and fast, before getting her to ride me. She was on top for about a minute before she said she was tired, so I flipped her on to her back and did all of the work again.
Although the sex was underwhelming, I enjoyed every second. She was the prettiest girl of the trip so far, a good notch on anyone's bedpost.
She asked to leave shortly afterwards. I didn't mind as conversation was tricky and one of the best things about long-time is the opportunity to really get to know a girl. As she was an early runner I didn't tip her and she didn't ask.
I woke up to several Whatsapp messages from Amanda, the girl I met on Tinder. I asked if she could send me another photo and she sent a topless pic. That was me sold. An hour later she was in my room.
After a nice chat she said 'I go shower' and when I saw her naked I knew I was in for a good time. She was curvy with lovely fuller tits. She was 21 and had a cute face.
She was a great kisser, as she wanked me on the bed. Her pussy was soon juicy and she marvelled at the size of my dick. As I've said before, I'm not big by western standards, but it's always nice hearing a 21 year old say 'oh my god, it's getting even bigger! '.
Soon I was sliding in to her hairy pussy. She groaned loud enough to alert the entire 4th floor as I fucked her in mish, her legs in the air, and even louder as I slapped in to her doggy style. 'Harder Lance, harder! ' she ordered. She clearly loved sex. She rode me, or rather lay on top of me and let me do all the work again, then demanded I go on top again. I joked I didn't need a gym session when I could do a sexercise class with her.
It was great sex, some of the best of the trip. I gave her a well deserved 1500, plus 500 tip.
I had a few chores to carry out mid-afternoon, so went to Robinson's mall. When I'd completed them I went to the food court and ordered a tasty Turkish chicken pitta dish with Asian spicy sauce. The food court used to be a good place to pick up girls and I remember several girls approaching me to say Hello, on my last visit, over ten years ago. It doesn't have the same pickup vibe now though. Perhaps it's a matter of timing? On my last visit it was the middle of the day and lots of the shop assistants were having lunch, as opposed to now. Or perhaps, just maybe, it's because I'm ten years older.
I returned to my condo and spent half an hour on Tinder. I saw one profile that said 'I don't care how tall you are because we're all the same height in bed'. Swipe right.
My plan had been to secure an afternoon meet, so I sent messages to my two favourite matches, a curvy 21 year old and an 18 year old who was cuteness personified. Neither replied straight away so I continued swiping until I ran out of swipes. I logged on to DateinAsia but realised I wasn't photo-verified so couldn't send messages, which took another two hours to rectify. When I was verified I exchanged messages with a sexy girl but when I suggested we could meet up tonight she casually told me she was studying in Davao (her profile said Cebu). Another half an hour down the drain.
I have no doubt internet dating is a rich source of hookups in Cebu but my word it can be frustrating.
So I ditched that plan and went out instead. I wasn't having a girl-free night on my last night in Cebu. I walked to Viking and approached the bouncer outside. I explained to him what had happened on my last visit when I tried to barfine a cutie and was told that I had to buy five ladydrinks as well. He confirmed that is indeed the bar's policy. So really Viking's barfine is not 5000, it's 6500. Ludicrous.
The bouncer told me he knows another good bar without the ladydrink scam and I found myself following him round the corner, past Jollibee to two venues on the right, Kanpai and Bounty Sports Bar. The latter had several girls outside, so I entered. It was dark English style pub, with comfy seats and sport on TV.
Six girls lined up in front of me, smiling sweetly, and the mamasan asked which I'd like to sit with. I'm not a fan of picking girls from a line but I used the situation to my advantage and asked each girl to tell me their name, as you get a sense of their personality. I narrowed it down to two, a sexy girl with her hair in a ponytail and a blond girl with a sophisticated hairdo. I chose the blonde, as they have more fun.
She was a nice girl so I enquired about the barfine prices and she told me it was 5000 for long-time. I had a lunchtime flight next day and needed to pack in the morning, so I told her I was only interested in short-time. She informed me the price for short-time was also 5000. I was honest with her. I told her I'd like to barfine her but 5000 for short-time is far too much.
I went to Novax next, which is next door to Sisters. I believe this used to be Planet X a number of years ago. Just like Viking, it had a strange setup. I took a seat and although the bar had probably 20 girls lounging around on the couches, they made no effort to grab my attention. Instead the girls got up one by one to dance, so I'd need to stay for hours to get a good look at the merchandise on offer. Surely these kind of bars need to let the customers see the girls?
As luck would have it, the girl who did come to sit with me was probably my favourite and clearly the youngest in the bar (she told me the other girls nicknamed her Baby Girl). She was a little chubby-cheeked cutie with braces on her teeth, who laughed manically at almost everything I said. Her name was Aileen and she was 20.
As a skinny girl did an incredibly sexy slow-dance with a smoke machine adding dramatic effect, Aileen told me I was gwapo. When I told her she was gwapa and we'd make beautiful babies she nearly snorted up her rum and coke.
I liked this girl so it was time to talk money. She initially quoted a crazy 7000 for longtime but saw my reaction and came down to 6000 and then 5000 without me even speaking. I told her I only wanted short-time and she agreed to 4000 but then backtracked after she spoke to the mamasan, telling me the bar couldn't go below 5 K. It was my last night in Cebu and I'll be honest, I'd reached the point where I was tired of money-talk. I just wanted a nice girl to help me sign off this leg of the trip in style. We agreed on 5000 and left hand-in-hand.
She was only small and looked very sexy in a red dress. I always enjoy seeing what clothes the gogo girls get dressed in to.
There was a nervous moment when we arrived at my hotel, Horizon 101. Aileen told me she'd forgotten her ID card, so we had to scurry past the security guard, who fortunately was too busy on his phone. We took a lift up the 14th floor and I knew I was in for a good time.
We watched a daft comedy on Netflix before we both showered. 'You want to go to bedroom? ' she sweetly asked, a candidate for the least necessary question ever. She was a fabulous kisser and before long I was sliding in to her hairy pussy bareback. The sex was fantastic. I asked her what position she liked and she said 'this one', so I continued to fuck her slowly in mish, sucking her bullet-like nipples. She lifted her legs in the air and demanded I fuck her harder, then came so noisily I'm sure the building shook. I marvelled at how cute she was as she rode me to a climax, quickly jumping off when she heard me coming and laughing as I shot my load up my chest. Great sex.
I'll be honest, I had low expectations for my three days in Cebu, but it proved to be an enjoyable diversion. I found the gogo bars overpriced but stocked with some pretty girls. I barfined girls from Jane (4000ST) , Sisters (4000ST) and Novak (5000 LT). Bars like Phillies and Bamboozers also have the occasional pretty girl you can buy drinks for, but they don't have a barfine system, instead you've got to get their Whatsapp details or meet them after 3 am when they finish work.
As discussed on the forum, meeting girls off dating apps is perhaps the best way to meet girls in Cebu. I organised two quick afternoon liaisons on Tinder and Macca met two cuties via Dateinasia.
P.S. This diary will continue on the Pattaya thread.
Thank you for your PM, I did try to reply to you to acknowledge your message, but got a 'user not found' error message.
Hi Mdemde,
Glad to see that things are becoming exciting once again.
I am planning a trip to Cebu in a while, so hope to benefit from potential recommendations from your experiences.
Thanks for PM.
Victor.
[QUOTE=Mdemde;2789344]Good guess, one was 18, one was 20, the girls were brought to me by a provider. I arranged a meet with a girl I met online a few years ago and I asked her if she could bring a friend with her, which she did. This friend turned out to be a provider and was the one who brought me these girls.
It depends on the girl. If you want some contact details please send me a PM.[/QUOTE]
Hi Sir Lancelot.
Between losing my account during Covid till a lack of occasion during this period, I want to thank you for your detailed and exciting FR.
I hope to connect with potentials candidates by Tinder and DIA before my coming trip.
Looking forward,
Victor.
[QUOTE=SirLancelot;2793954]I woke up to several Whatsapp messages from Amanda, the girl I met on Tinder. I asked if she could send me another photo and she sent a topless pic. That was me sold. An hour later she was in my room.
After a nice chat she said 'I go shower' and when I saw her naked I knew I was in for a good time. She was curvy with lovely fuller tits. She was 21 and had a cute face.
She was a great kisser, as she wanked me on the bed. Her pussy was soon juicy and she marvelled at the size of my dick. As I've said before, I'm not big by western standards, but it's always nice hearing a 21 year old say 'oh my god, it's getting even bigger! '.
Soon I was sliding in to her hairy pussy. She groaned loud enough to alert the entire 4th floor as I fucked her in mish, her legs in the air, and even louder as I slapped in to her doggy style. 'Harder Lance, harder! ' she ordered. She clearly loved sex. She rode me, or rather lay on top of me and let me do all the work again, then demanded I go on top again. I joked I didn't need a gym session when I could do a sexercise class with her...[/QUOTE]
Earlier this week with one of my regulars, she gave birth to her first child about 2 months ago. The previous last time I saw her was about a week before she gave birth.
Arrived in Cebu. Had arranged with a previous girl to bring her friend to the airport. She wanted to join as well but I quickly shot it down. The girl she brought is slightly chubby with big boobs. 19 YO supposedly works in a factory.
Gave me friend her money and took a taxi to the hotel. Waterfront lahug. Had the first round after arriving. Took a nap. Went to Ayala for dinner. Came back and too full to do anything. Morning one shot went for breakfast and cut her loose.
Nice 19 year body, very tight pussy. She said no sex for last 7 months after her BF left. Whatever?
Hi Mr S.
Always amazed by your managing and planning skills.
How do you get your old girl to bring her friend? You need to provide introducing fees?
Victor.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2798554]Arrived in cebu. Had arranged with a previous girl to bring her friend to the airport. She wanted to join as well but I quickly shot it down. The girl she brought is slightly chubby with big boobs.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=VictorHugo999;2798623]Hi Mr S.
Always amazed by your managing and planning skills.
How do you get your old girl to bring her friend? You need to provide introducing fees?
Victor.[/QUOTE]Vast majority of my girls are still in friendly terms although some are past their prime. They know the deal that I am looking for younger and prettier girls. I do compensate them when they meet me but not sending money otherwise.
Money is the motivation and I always show the good side of me LOL. So they know I will take care of the girls.
DIA gir. Married so will not show full face. Young 21 years old. Very GFE. Had lots of fun. Big Big boobs. Married to a foreigner who comes once in a while she said but takes care of her. Also said her friend who is young co habiting with a 85 year old man. God bless him. Not sure how old her husband or BF is. But horny as hell. She Carries. Around a vibrator to boot. My hands and mouth is tired dealing with the jugs while she uses her vibrator.
Got an 18 year old girl. Tight pussy but slight smell. Not really bad smell but unlike all the other girls I had with zero smell this one had some smell. Maybe because of sweaty.
Anyway once get going enthusiastic fucking ensued. Had no qualms about blow job. Slight princess attitude which I tamed right away. I am the payer. After first time sex she wanted to bring in another pretty friend of hers but I said not this time. I have to trust one girl completely before I do a threesome.
Flying back to Manila.
Thanks again sir.
You take wicked pictures.
Vic.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2798701]Vast majority of my girls are still in friendly terms although some are past their prime. They know the deal that I am looking for younger and prettier girls. I do compensate them when they meet me but not sending money otherwise.
Money is the motivation and I always show the good side of me LOL. So they know I will take care of the girls.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Pseries;2792554]I banged Kier917 on PinaLove.[/QUOTE]Is she trans? I chatted to her before and got the impression that she's trans.
This is Angel. She's good for some GFE action. I imagine she's up for almost anything if you ask. I was happy with just regular sex and general sweet company. BBBJ but covered for the main event. I gave her 6 K for the night but that was just me being extra generous. I'm sure there's downward negotiating room. PM me for her contact. Or is it OK to post it here these days?
[QUOTE=Goferring;2793285]Looks like you found the two extremes of Cebu:
1/. The bars there truely suck. Expect outrageous prices, multiple conditions and even minimum work hours before leaving.
2/. BJs feature prominently. One trip, I had every girl except one totally up for deep throat and full on face fucking. No idea why it was so popular.
I'm not sure if your reports are real time or if you are home now but remember that Cebu is the online capital of PI. If you are struggling with bars, then just go online. There are many great girls to choose from and good prices.
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]What are the best online apps? Tinder and Bumble work there? I'm a Thailand regular and currently doing my research for Cebu and it's intriguing me more and more.
[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2808359]What are the best online apps? Tinder and Bumble work there? I'm a Thailand regular and currently doing my research for Cebu and it's intriguing me more and more.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.dateinasia.com[/URL] and [URL]https://www.pinalove.com[/URL] work well for me. I have never tried Bumble but Tinder is available here and I have tried it, though I have not had much luck with it.
Earlier this week in Cebu City.
[QUOTE=Mdemde;2809445]Earlier this week in Cebu City.[/QUOTE]Love the pics and thanks for sharing! I especially love the cum dripping out of her hole!
[QUOTE=Mdemde;2809443][URL]https://www.dateinasia.com[/URL] and [URL]https://www.pinalove.com[/URL] work well for me. I have never tried Bumble but Tinder is available here and I have tried it, though I have not had much luck with it.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply. I'm a Thailand vet but trying to due my research for Phills. Need to change it up.
[QUOTE=Mdemde;2809445]Earlier this week in Cebu City.[/QUOTE]You love your vagina pics! How much did this encounter cost?
[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2809888]You love your vagina pics! How much did this encounter cost?[/QUOTE]The girl was brought to me by a provider (I normally give her P1.2k for her services), and usually I would give the girl P1k but this girl was looking for P1.5k and on this occasion I agreed to this.
[QUOTE=Mahku;2807294]This is Angel. She's good for some GFE action. I imagine she's up for almost anything if you ask. I was happy with just regular sex and general sweet company. BBBJ but covered for the main event. I gave her 6 K for the night but that was just me being extra generous. I'm sure there's downward negotiating room. PM me for her contact. Or is it OK to post it here these days?[/QUOTE]Up for almost everything and covered? . no tits? . and then pay 6 k? Ohh gosh. One week millionaire!
[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2815036]Up for almost everything and covered? . no tits? . and then pay 6 k? Ohh gosh. One week millionaire![/QUOTE]Your criticism is misplaced Amadeuss. Mahku has been on the road in many countries for many years. I met him personally in Lima 10-15 years ago.
If he wanted to give her 6 K he had good reason.
Mr Mdemde,
Great job getting great service at great pricing. I hope to get some provider help for subic when. I go by PM if possible.
Thanks, Victor.
[QUOTE=Mdemde;2811702]The girl was brought to me by a provider (I normally give her P1.2k for her services), and usually I would give the girl P1k but this girl was looking for P1.5k and on this occasion I agreed to this.[/QUOTE]