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For those of you who wish to consider Gia as a possible option, they are fairly reliable, the ladies are almost always who they are in the photos and Gia can provide a flat on the Left Bank for you to meet the ladies away from your hotel.
However, be very aware of very significant price differences for locals versus foreigners. Here is a recent comparison for a new girl:
Zoya
1 hour 325 gr. = $61 @ today's rate of 5.32 gr. = US$1.00
2 hours 435 gr. = $82
3 hours 595 gr. = $112
4 hours 650 gr. = $122
10 hours 760 gr = $143
24 hours 1570 gr. = $295
The new girl ZOYA
1 hour- 70 EUR or $91 @ $1.30 street exchange rate
2 hours- 90 EUR or $117
3 hours- 110 EUR or $143
4 hours- 130 EUR or $169
10 hours- 180 EUR or $234
24 hours- 350 EUR or $455
Oral with condom, lesbi.
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I've been re-reading some of the posts with a view to planning a trip in April (if I don't get back soon I'm going to explode!). I've got a couple of questions for the Kiev regulars that I hope they can assist with.
Firstly I read a couple of pages back that O'Neils was a good place to pick up non-pro students. I'm not saying this isn't the case, but I had an apartment 200 yards from there when I was in Kiev and went for a drink there early evening quite often and I'm pretty sure there was no action on offer on any of my visits. The crowd was pretty much ex-pats looking for familiar surroundings or groups of locals out together. Maybe it has changed in nature since December, but it didn't look like a good place to go to meet locals (although it's a nice place to go).
The thing I'm most interested in are reccomendations for regular bars in Kiev with a good vibe that have some life in them around 8-9pm in the evening. Where can I go with a chance of hooking up with locals without waiting for midnight or 1am for people to arrive? Uke Boy mentioned that Eric's bars are all good - I went to 111 last time, which was great, but really didn't get busy on the nights I was there until midnight. Anyone got some other reccomendations? I know Eric has at least one other bar in Kiev, but I couldn't find it. I don't mind the late life but some earlier alternatives would be useful.
My second question is about internal travel in Ukraine. I might need to get to Mariupol - what's the best way to get there and roughly how much should it cost? Would I need to declare this on my visa or can I make the decision when I'm there and just use my standard tourist visa from the UK? Anyone been to Mariupol and, if so, what is it like? I saw Michael Gage had been there and said it didn't really have any tourist infrastructure, but I have basic Russian so I don't mind a trip to the relatively unknown, but some advice would be really welcome.
Sorry for so many questions; I promise to report back in full after my next visit.
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Uke Boy,
I appreciate your info for Gia site but what is their phone number now? I called +38 067 393 27 27 but the line seems to be closed.
Their email doesn't accept my messeages.
I was looking a the airport transfer and girl to assist me on info as I land, I will be in Kiev on 24th March, on Wednesday.
Will really appreciate it if you can reply before then.
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I'll be in Odessa and Nikolaev areas late April/early May.
If anyone will be around perhaps we can hook up.
Might stop by in Kiev also but I'll be really forcusing more on the south.
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Rendorseg,
I will be in Odessa and Nikolaev too, I am going to Kiev on 24th in 2 days, and leaving Ukraine 22nd April.
I may still be around Odessa by the time you get there, if you want to hook up for a chat, email me:
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Once you're in Ukraine you can stay as long as you wish till your visa expires and you can travel anywhere you wish.
The best places to meet students are the cheaper cafe/bar/restaurants alongside Kreschatik and Padole.
For a little excitement in a different design and atmosphere either at night or around midnight you could try Dinos Bar on Kraschatik right across Dnipro Hotel.
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Tech Boy - damn it... I'll be there between 4-24 and 5-8 so looks like we'll miss each other... but, hey, do me a favor and post some info on Nikolaev...
When in Odessa last time things were pretty sparce... chicks in the strip clubs were stuck up and those around that entrance to the port, well, they were kind of skanky by my measure.... I think that Nikolaev is more promising... not so much mafia $, women have a better attitude I think fm our perspective, eh? [;-)
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I ask informations to Gia agency by mail, it's working, they replay me:
Dear Sir!
We are glad to invite you to visit Ukraine, Kiev.
Our girls are: ZOYA, TAMARA, LINA, MILA, KARINA, VLADISLAVA, RITA, DIANA, KSYUSHA,
DASHA, NIKA, SASHA, IRA, YANA:
1 hour- 70 $
2 hours- 100 $
3 hours- 130 $
4 hours- 160 $
10 hours- 200 $
24 hours- 350 $
* Oral without condom (TAMARA, RITA, DIANA, MILA, KSYUSHA, DASHA, SASHA, IRA, YANA)
* Anal +20 $ (RITA, DASHA, IRA, YANA)
* Lesbi + 20
$ (ZOYA, TAMARA, KARINA, LINA, RITA, VLADISLAVA, DIANA, MILA, KSYUSHA, SASHA, IRA, YANA)
* An apartment for meeting 20$ - 30$
* 1 $USD = 5,4 UAH
PHONE NUMBER +38044 491 66 42
+38039 491 66 42
ADDRESS WWW.GIA.COM.UA
E-MAIL [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue]
I hope this help
Bye
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Tech Boy,
I just called Gia at the number you called +38 067 393 27 27. Works just fine and was able to get the revision of prices that Nanto71 just sent in. Seems that Gia changes prices and systems almost as often as new girls come in and out. His is, for now, the correct price list.
I know nothing about their email as it is easier for me to call them since I am here.
I also cannot help you with the airport transfer and a girl. I do not always check the forum since I do have many other things to do.
It looks like Gia has gone to a one price system but if you want to pay in Grivna rather than dollars they will charge you a 5.4 exchange rate rather than a street rate of 5.32 That means $70 at 5.32 is 372.40 Grivna or 378 Grivna if you pay them at the 5.40 rate. No big difference.
The big difference is that the local price went up, I am sorry to say. We will see what they say in their next round of email prices.
I can also add to Vegamars' comment that you have entered Ukraine, you can travel anywhere on the visa. Just do make sure you have a visa before you come and do not overstay the term of the visa. Otherwise, enjoy.
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Thanks Uke Boy,
I might give GIA a call, I also checked out Odessa escort site and they are charging 300Euros for 12 hrs, it seems it is very high for Ukraine, but I like 3 of the girls in the pic so might try out anyway.
I'll try to give some interesting report, maybe I'll try the disco clubs, I'm young good looking entrepreneur but quite shy, and I'll try:)
By the way, you know you can arrange a date with the dating agencies in Kiev and Odessa for $20-$40 intro, it might take more effort but it's good for the companionship. I'll check how it goes.
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If anyone is looking for a good contact in Kiev to organise semi-pro girls for them, hit me with a PM, and I can pass on the number of a contact I have.
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So I have a question:
What can a tourist who speaks/reads very little russian can expect to pay for staying on a daily basis in Kiev? Hotel, food, taxis, etc. Does speaking/reading russian get you any deals like cheaper hotels, flats, eating out?
Thanks!
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Opus D,
Hotels are artifically inflated prices. Locals have to pay same at the top hotels, don't know about 2/3 star places. Best bet apartment without doubt, unless your company pays.
Also security can be a problem with some hotels, usually ok at 4*+, but you may feel a little awkward!!
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Speaking a certain language will not decrease prices as you can guess.Even communicating in Ukrainian would not help you much.But when you travel to the western part of the country and especially to Lviv,I would never advise you to speak in Russian as it could double the prices for you.People there really hate Russian and communicate in Ukrainian all the time in a quite interesting accent,showing their envy of independence.
The only girl-friendly hotels in Kiev are Premier Palace and Dnipro and you'll always have a problem with the security in the others,which you can easily solve by 50Gr.You must always be ready for wondering eyes on you when passing through with a girl though as if you're doing the most interesting thing in the world.Of course you'll have to deal with the same thing even if you're with your girlfriend,just smile back and you'll feel very comfortable.
In hotels like Kreschatik where the security is even tighter,an internal service is provided and it will be a little bit more difficult to take a girl in from outside,but don't worry,you're in Ukraine and there's always a solution.
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One more question regards apartments.
Has any one experience with this site?
www.kievconnections.com
They have some great apartments.
Any idea where Baseyna street is?
Some of the marriage girls there are georgous too.
Is it worth joining a site like this to try and the girls there, or is this just a con?
I read the girls on these sites are just there to scam you.
It could be fun though.
Any thoughts?
I shall be there in May.