Breadman, thank you for reaching out. You are awesome.
Mohab, I have been to Golden Time and Living Room 2-3 years ago. Which ones are the new NRW clubs? Thanks
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Breadman, thank you for reaching out. You are awesome.
Mohab, I have been to Golden Time and Living Room 2-3 years ago. Which ones are the new NRW clubs? Thanks
[QUOTE=Shark16; 1254445]First of all thanks to the seniors for letting us have this new lounge / chat area allowing us to discuss subjects slightly outside the topics of the standard threads. It's appreciated.
The very thing that lead to this new thread was of course the discussion between LJ, Bread and Vitrea benchmarking the FKK scene to certain p4p scenes worldwide, which I followed with huge interest. I have always enjoyed the benchmarking debates, but to me the true added value of this discussion was that it was between FKK veterans with a notion about "FKK standards / qualities". You just don't get that understanding when reading threads of other parts of the world. And I am not sure raising a "FKK benchmarking debate" would be very welcome in other world threads, too TBH. .
For example: When reading the Brazil threads, don't we all just appreciate so much more reading Euro100 latest escapades rather than some other Brazil veteran's view, simply because we know Euro100 so well from his outstanding reports in the FKK threads?
And what happens when such debates takes place without FKK veterans participating? Well, I tell you what:
This forum contains an Opinions / Editorial section with a thread called 'Which Country in Europe is the best value for money for punting? '. Today, after 10 reports, the conclusion is that you find best value for money in Prague, the small apartments in Spanish Costa del Sol, and in the German Partytreff scene. Can you believe that crap! Not a word of the FKK scene. Some of you well travelled gents with integrity ought to put things straight in that thread.
Well, at least it makes me so much more happy that we now finally have a lounge where we can discuss the p4p world from a FKK perspective.[/QUOTE]You sir, hit the nail on the head.
My old Ford is dying and I need a new car. I have two good friends who are car enthusiasts. One is a huge fan of Audis. He owned Audis almost all his life and his family owns audis. He knows cars but he does not have personal experience with other cars and that is by choice. The other guy owned an Audi, Ford and a BMW in the last 12 years but not an expert in one particular brand. When I was trying to decide which car to get, I asked the second guy for his opinion. When I am not sure, it is useless asking the first guy. I already know his answer. If I eventually decide to go with an Audi, I will certainly ask the first guy which Audi to get. Both my friends have useful information but I need to use judgment on when and how to use it.
[QUOTE=Shark16;1254445]This forum contains an Opinions / Editorial section with a thread called 'Which Country in Europe is the best value for money for punting? '. Today, after 10 reports, the conclusion is that you find best value for money in Prague, the small apartments in Spanish Costa del Sol, and in the German Partytreff scene. Can you believe that crap!?!! Not a word of the FKK scene . Some of you well travelled gents with integrity ought to put things straight in that thread.[/QUOTE]There's a big difference in 'value for money' for a fuck and 'quality for the money' for a fuck. I've done the partytreff's and the reviews of the girls are "a bit exaggerated". Lets face it, you don't know what the reviewer likes or considers 'first rate talent'. His '8' might only be a '4' in your book. And it usually is just that. I'd pay 99 euro's to enter one of these partytreff's and would be able to fuck for 6 to 8 times for a great 'value for the money'. But I found paying say '150' total at GT for entrance and two room visits and the use of their facilities had a much higher 'value for my money'.
The partytreff's are a great way to kill your sex drive for a week. The greatest value for my money lies in the regular clubs.
When saying new I meant as in new for my ownself. I have been to samya before and this time plan to hit acapulco for the first time. Just as a side note I will be in frankfurt for 5 nights and plan 3 full 12 hour days in oase. 2 days at oase are a must for me however having experienced world last summer I thought the lineup was not on the league of oase. Mainhatten seems too small for a 12 hour stay and palace which I have visited 3 times so far does have beauties and nice facilities but the girls seem very proactive in rushing sessions and kissing etc seems to be negotiable whereas at oase this is not an issue. A third day in a different setting to oase would be nice can anyone crack this conundrum for me and come up with an alternative to oase for a day as I am unable to.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Vitrea;1254146]Captain Dan (post # 16) added Switzerland and Netherlands to the FKK list. I am familiar with the Swiss FKK but I have never been there. Based on reports, it is a bit more expensive but that in itself does not bother me especially if some of you think it is work driving down there for what ever reasons (quality of girls, ethnic mixture, friendliness, ambience of place etc) . I don't know anything about FKK in netherlands other than Yin-Yang which I have been to and decided that I should stick to NRW clubs.[/QUOTE][font=tahoma]Hi [b]Vitrea[/b], I guess the point I was trying to make was that although there are other countries in Europe (probably Eastern Europe) where you can travel and monger, in my opinion it is difficult to beat (for quality, cost and easy availability) what is provided in the FKK and Sauna Clubs which are primarily in Germany (but also in Austria, Switzerland and to a much lesser extend Netherlands). Why travel the length and breath of Europe when there is so much to explore just in Germany alone.
[b]CD[/b][/font]
I've been to various European countries. And always I am glad to come back to good old FKK-Land, where you can get great sex with a great looking girl for as much as 50€ plus entrance (anywhere between 20 and 80€). Belgium, CZ, Netherlands, even Spain or Austria with their clubs (or Switzerland where 30min are almost 120€). It's at the same price level or above, value for money still is great in Germany. Especially when you live here and travel expenses are almost zero.
HB
[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1254856]I've been to various European countries. And always I am glad to come back to good old FKK-Land, where you can get great sex with a great looking girl for as much as 50€ plus entrance (anywhere between 20 and 80€). Belgium, CZ, Netherlands, even Spain or Austria with their clubs (or Switzerland where 30min are almost 120€). It's at the same price level or above, value for money still is great in Germany. Especially when you live here and travel expenses are almost zero.
HB[/QUOTE]A side note, Asian countries (SEA) are still cheaper and more GFE. Better food and weather (beaches).
[QUOTE=Mohab; 1254804]When saying new I meant as in new for my ownself. I have been to samya before and this time plan to hit acapulco for the first time. Just as a side note I will be in frankfurt for 5 nights and plan 3 full 12 hour days in oase. 2 days at oase are a must for me however having experienced world last summer I thought the lineup was not on the league of oase. Mainhatten seems too small for a 12 hour stay and palace which I have visited 3 times so far does have beauties and nice facilities but the girls seem very proactive in rushing sessions and kissing etc seems to be negotiable whereas at oase this is not an issue. A third day in a different setting to oase would be nice can anyone crack this conundrum for me and come up with an alternative to oase for a day as I am unable to.
Thanks[/QUOTE]My expertise is not in the league of some of the other gents her but I would say, go to Sharks for the 3rd day. Nod to Breadman here.
[QUOTE=Captain Dan; 1254821][font=tahoma]Hi [b]Vitrea[/b], I guess the point I was trying to make was that although there are other countries in Europe (probably Eastern Europe) where you can travel and monger, in my opinion it is difficult to beat (for quality, cost and easy availability) what is provided in the FKK and Sauna Clubs which are primarily in Germany (but also in Austria, Switzerland and to a much lesser extend Netherlands). Why travel the length and breath of Europe when there is so much to explore just in Germany alone.
[b]CD[/b][/font][/QUOTE]I see your point and thank you.
BTW, I did some more research on Swiss FKKs after I posted my cavalier statement that price does not bother me. I take that back. It does not bother me to a certain limit. May be up to +/- 20 to 30 percent. FKK Globe is 160CHF for 30 minutes plus entrance plus more for drinks? Holy shit! That is more expensive than any FKK or club I have been in. It is more than K5 relax in Prague and almost as expensive as Babylon in Vienna.
[QUOTE=Nille Copenhagen;1254859]A side note, Asian countries (SEA) are still cheaper and more GFE. Better food and weather (beaches).[/QUOTE]Yeah, that's true but that a different ball game. Let say in 3 categoties : caucasian. Germany FKK, malays. Thai or indonesia, latinas. Don't know, maybe brasil?
[QUOTE=Nille Copenhagen;1254859]A side note, Asian countries (SEA) are still cheaper and more GFE. Better food and weather (beaches).[/QUOTE]True. But. Long flight, no option for one day, SEA girls only.
HB
[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1255002]True. But. Long flight, no option for one day, SEA girls only.
HB[/QUOTE]The idea here is a few weeks vacation. You can find EE and Latin girls but that is not idea to find those girls in SEA.
I agree with you that with FKK clubs you get the best over-all-setup. I just want to point out the price and GFE-factor I SEA.
[QUOTE=Big30; 1254094]I watched some matches in a club the past years. Most clubs have some additional LCD-screens / projectors where you can the watch the game. 2010 in Gt I saw the 1/4 final match Holland-Brasil in a tent in the garden. I would estimate about 75% of the guests watched the game. During the game not much business for the girls but before and after not a problem (can depend on the result of the game!).
The impact on the line-up in the club will be limited, but when some matches are played clubs try to overcome the possible loss of guestst by putting screens in the clubs and in some cases also some special actions. Bernds had one 2 years ago, you paid less entrance when I remember well depending on how many goals the German team scored.[/QUOTE]I remember 4 yrs ago World had a special tent set up outside with a huge screen & about 75 chairs. I would guess 90% of the clients were either in the tent or downstairs next to the bar. You could hear a pin drop after the intial screaming & groaning after Torres beat Lahm to score the eventual winning goal.
[QUOTE=Vitrea;1254930]My expertise is not in the league of some of the other gents her but I would say, go to Sharks for the 3rd day. Nod to Breadman here.[/QUOTE]Couldn't have said it better.
Including the nod.
Myr.
[QUOTE=Nille Copenhagen;1254859]A side note, Asian countries (SEA) are still cheaper and more GFE. Better food and weather (beaches).[/QUOTE]Chances of getting a 'ladie boy' are also greater in asia.