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[QUOTE=Amriptna111;1323303]Hi artic that is cause you are on a holiday so you think it is okay to splurge some of us who are near to frankfurt or frequently goes there and sort of have fkk lifestyle will plan our budget and try to get a fair deal. I am sorry but I have to disagree with your point at you are looking it from a tourist POV[/QUOTE]The problem is that some girls treat the guys who 'splurge' differently from those who want a 'fair deal'. Many don't though.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1323334]Not sure why we talk about CIM "negotiation". Its simple either I came in her mouth or I didn't. If I did, I must pay for it, whether I pre-planned it or not. I think we are agreed on that one.[/QUOTE]I think you are missing the point that Katinka, the opening poster, is making; that he had asked to perform a CIM finish so the girl had gone down to suck him to completion but at the point of completion she pulls away from his cock and by doing so avoids taking his come in her mouth in full, partially or at all and still commands additional 50€ in compensation. So, in this case, would your approach be the same, that she did not take all your love juice in her mouth and not pay the girl?
Most times for me, CIM has been me pumping the sperm into her mouth and feeling her mouth on me, but there are times when I wonder due to how she has positioned herself or how quickly she jumps up to run for the waste bin to spit; whether she actually took anything at all into her mouth or just pokes her tongue out of her open mouth as the come blasts out and thereby not really taking the ejaculating cock head in her mouth.
As I was reading today I noticed a sudden change in the appearance of the forum as if the text on display had suddenly become a bit smaller. Sometimes I have also noticed a slight change in the overall layout of the forum. I checked my computers settings and they seem fine. Has anyone else ever noticed similar changes / I need to check as I have a new laptop and just want to confirm this with someone else.
[QUOTE=Yakob; 1323386]I think you are missing the point that Katinka, the opening poster, is making; that he had asked to perform a CIM finish so the girl had gone down to suck him to completion but at the point of completion she pulls away from his cock and by doing so avoids taking his come in her mouth in full, partially or at all and still commands additional 50€ in compensation. So, in this case, would your approach be the same, that she did not take all your love juice in her mouth and not pay the girl?
Most times for me, CIM has been me pumping the sperm into her mouth and feeling her mouth on me, but there are times when I wonder due to how she has positioned herself or how quickly she jumps up to run for the waste bin to spit; whether she actually took anything at all into her mouth or just pokes her tongue out of her open mouth as the come blasts out and thereby not really taking the ejaculating cock head in her mouth.[/QUOTE]You're on point and talking about the kind of behavior we're objecting to here. Anytime I've nutted in a girl's mouth who agreed to CIM, she did not pull away but let me blow all over her pearly whites proper. I've even had one babe swallow. It was a Hungarian at Artemis. Don't remember her name, and she's probably long gone. But mostly they just hold and spit. I think my favorite was Patrizia at Oase, the Romanian and Italian mix. She readily took all of my esperma in her mouth (she kept saying "I want to EAT your SPERM") , then she spit it out in a way that it ran down her chin in a torrent of slobber into my crotch. Then she dutifully cleaned me up. Good girl! Now THAT'S CIM. Anybody know if petite and tanned Patrizia is still at Oase?
[QUOTE=The Cane;1323299]Because it's my money, and I don't give it away for nothing.[/QUOTE]I just think you're too funny man. Seriously, your posts crack me up. As if pussy is some important thing. If money was important to you. Why do you spend it on pussy when there's millions of better things you could spend it on? I wonder how much time you put into the exercise of trying to figure out how to get the absolute MOST from a girl for the lowest dollar?
No one likes to get ripped off, but dude, if you're cumming and you're uncovered and you're NOT inside the girl then you're going to be paying for an extra. Isn't CIB an extra? Whats the fee for that? So you're either paying for CIB or CIM. You don't want to pay then don't spray.
Pretty simple really.
Nah. I don't really think about the girls ripping me off too much. Spoils too much of the fun to worry about stuff like that.
[QUOTE=Yakob; 1323386]I think you are missing the point that Katinka, the opening poster, is making; that he had asked to perform a CIM finish so the girl had gone down to suck him to completion but at the point of completion she pulls away from his cock and by doing so avoids taking his come in her mouth in full, partially or at all and still commands additional 50€ in compensation. So, in this case, would your approach be the same, that she did not take all your love juice in her mouth and not pay the girl?
Most times for me, CIM has been me pumping the sperm into her mouth and feeling her mouth on me, but there are times when I wonder due to how she has positioned herself or how quickly she jumps up to run for the waste bin to spit; whether she actually took anything at all into her mouth or just pokes her tongue out of her open mouth as the come blasts out and thereby not really taking the ejaculating cock head in her mouth.[/QUOTE]Me? I'd have paid her for it.
Why? Did she purposefully hold back? Or, was she "surprised" that the guy was that close? Maybe she was stopping to catch a breath, maybe she got a hair in her teeth. Maybe the guy didn't wash his foreskin and she couldn't stand his taste anymore? A million things could have happened and, at that point during climax, am I really AWARE enough to judge her actions and intentions? I don't think so. Yeah, I'd have paid her for it and let it go. I might have told her "I saw what you did there little sharkie!" and maybe I'd never session with her again if I really felt she did it on purpose but I'd still pay her and just count it as a data point.
At worst, I'd have told her I was disappointed in her finish but still taken the "high road" and paid her for it. I mean, if this was something that happened with a lot of girls a lot of the time, then maybe it would be different but looking through this forum you just don't see it that much. And besides, does anyone here believe that a girl who's worked at an FKK for a year or more is going to "shy away" from CIM? By that time, they've done it so much it's certainly not a big enough thing for them to try to cheat a guy over.
[QUOTE=The Cane;1323538]You're on point and talking about the kind of behavior we're objecting to here. Anytime I've nutted in a girl's mouth who agreed to CIM, she did not pull away but let me blow all over her pearly whites proper. I've even had one babe swallow. It was a Hungarian at Artemis. Don't remember her name, and she's probably long gone. But mostly they just hold and spit. I think my favorite was Patrizia at Oase, the Romanian and Italian mix. She readily took all of my esperma in her mouth (she kept saying "I want to EAT your SPERM") , then she spit it out in a way that it ran down her chin in a torrent of slobber into my crotch. Then she dutifully cleaned me up. Good girl! Now THAT'S CIM. Anybody know if petite and tanned Patrizia is still at Oase?[/QUOTE]If it is the patrizia that looks dool up with barbie lips then she is still there as of last 2 weeks.
You know something, I have an average size dick and I am very glad about that. I think you get a better BJ. Plus you are a lot more likely to get anal. I know that this is a slightly off topic, but I have been drinking. Years ago, I had an affair with a married girl whose husband apparently had a large dick. One night she was drunk and sucking my dick. All at once she burst out laughing and said,"it is so small and cute." On the other hand, on another occasion she was bent over and I was fcuking her up the ass and she remarked,"my husband would kill to do this."
So if you have a six incher and envie those porno dicks, I think you are mistaken.
[QUOTE=Amriptna111;1323303]Hi artic that is cause you are on a holiday so you think it is okay to splurge some of us who are near to frankfurt or frequently goes there and sort of have fkk lifestyle will plan our budget and try to get a fair deal. I am sorry but I have to disagree with your point at you are looking it from a tourist POV[/QUOTE]Arctic, I have to agree with Armriptna. The average visitor or local (and I mean this broadly as this includes a wide spectrum of nations) have to be able to afford the sessions too. Not all customers have endless budget.
Haven't stopped in for a while but am planning a trip in January.
Big Messe in FFM because all the hotels are outrageous-even the Friedrichsdorf Mercure is 100EUR+.
Figured I wouldn't even bother with my usual Oase / Mainhattan duo that weekend.
Any suggestions for some places out of town? Considering even driving up to NRW.
Now I'll only have Saturday and Sunday, so I'm trying to pick the best of the bunch. Been catching up on each FKK's thread.
I always figured I'd do GT / LR and maybe PHG on my first foray up north, but am now considering Acapulco instead based on recent reports.
Also saw promising feedback on Babylon.
If I can arrange a Fri / Sat visit, I'll likely do Bernd's on the Friday.
What would you guys suggest?
Also need hotel recommendations for the winning destination. Reuter for Bernd's, where else? Ideally just off the A3 or something like that.
Thanks in advance, Tommy
[QUOTE=Amriptna111;1324137]It amazes me that (well I don't know whether they are lying or not) but there seems quite a number of girls who says that their sisters are in the same profession? One girl I met told me "well my older sister who also does this recently taking black people as her client but I cannot they are to smelly and rough". I was like I can't imagine a family sitting done together and discussing about the many men that is fucking them. Is prostituition that acceptable in Romanian culture? I wonder how their men can take the women as their wives.[/QUOTE]Yes, you do see a number of sisters working together. At World there is Romina and Deborah, and for a brief time there was the three sisters Simona, Diana and Beatrice at World too. The girls talk amongst themselves about their work. Just the same way the men talk about the girls. In your job, do you not talk about your work with work colleagues. It is just in this case that the work is fucking men. The girls are constantly looking at which clubs has the most business and able to get the most money. You find you will get asked by girls if they find that you go around all the clubs what your opinion is of what club is busy. Then there are other aspects of the job that the girls discuss of which clients are good and which clients are bad.
I do not think that prostitution is that readily acceptable in Romania than it is anywhere else. What I have deduced is that there are so many Romanian girls working in the sex industry now that when a girl says she is going to work in Western Europe (e. G. Italy, Spain, UK, Germany, Netherlands, France, etc.) that some presume she is going to work as a hooker. One girl said to me that she has to make money and do well in this job since that makes the shame / humiliation of going home gentler that she was successful.
Some of the girls just cannot leave the profession and I guess if it gets out that this is what they do that they are pushed to the fringe.
I encountered two pairs of sisters at Magnum (Erkrath) this summer, a couple of petite Hungarians and two tall Algerians who could pass for Latinas. I was lucky to have sessions with three of the four. My favorite part maybe was when I eavesdropped on the older Hungarian giving the Algerians tips on marketing themselves as "sex sisters"!
[QUOTE=Tommyseville; 1324380]Any suggestions for some places out of town? Now I'll only have Saturday and Sunday, so I'm trying to pick the best of the bunch. Been catching up on each FKK's thread.
If I can arrange a Fri / Sat visit, I'll likely do Bernd's on the Friday.
What would you guys suggest?[/QUOTE]I assume you are starting off in Frankfurt and the trade fair that you have not identified is the large one that is always in the last week of January for Christmas World and Paper World amongst others? Is that correct? If so, I suggest that you go to World which a place out of town. You can stay in a local hotel or pension in Giessen or in Wetzlar. The club is spacious and has around the same number of girls as Oase although the line up is more in favour of Romanians (although in my past visits there are more Germans there from Nurnburg, Dortmund, Koblenz and Hamburg). The food is served during all opening hours in the dining room and you should be able to find something to do there. At 8pm there is DJ in the main bar room and there is a saxophonist in the relaxation lounge downstairs. You can also spend two days in this club.
Or, alternatively, you can do Saturday at World and then a relaxing Sunday at Das 5 Element near Fulda which is less than 1 hour drive from Frankfurt. At Das 5 Element, this club has everything and admittedly not as mnay girls, the girls do not push there.
If you do a Friday and a Saturday then yes please do Bernds on a Friday. You may even go there on a couch action day like there is on 14 Sept. This is where Bernds is giving 10 programs free for men that do their session in public on the couch for all to see. You are expected to have your finale in public so put on your best porno face. For the Saturday go to World. This will save a long drive to NRW to the clubs close to the Netherlands border.
Thanks, Yakob, for your advice!
[QUOTE=Yakob;1324724]I assume you are starting off in Frankfurt and the trade fair that you have not identified is the large one that is always in the last week of January for Christmas World and Paper World amongst others? Is that correct? If so, I suggest that you go to World which a place out of town.[/QUOTE]Yes, that's the one. Almost like 2 or 3 trade fairs joined together.
I like World a lot, but usually save it for my summertime visits. Alas, I have been traveling mostly domestically during the summer months for the past couple of years, so I haven't been back to World in a long time. Great to hear that the lineups have been good.
The downstairs bar area was always good for napping-I suppose if the saxophonist isn't playing after midnight I can still catch a little between-session naps down there.
[QUOTE=Yakob;1324724]Das 5 Element near Fulda which is less than 1 hour drive from Frankfurt. At Das 5 Element, this club has everything and admittedly not as mnay girls, the girls do not push there.[/QUOTE]I had forgotten about Das 5 Element. I remember the food was supposed to be quite good. Hope the girls are equally good too. I'll do some more research about that one.
[QUOTE=Yakob;1324724]If you do a Friday and a Saturday then yes please do Bernds on a Friday. You may even go there on a couch action day like there is on 14 Sept. This is where Bernds is giving 10 programs free for men that do their session in public on the couch for all to see. You are expected to have your finale in public so put on your best porno face.[/QUOTE]I have experienced some PTs, so the public session won't be too out there for me to try. After 4 years now I have yet to experience Bernd's, and I figure it's time to make the pilgrimage.
Thanks again, Tommy
Forget about 5E re girls. Reports on German boards talk about 10. 15 girls max, most of them below 7 in rating. In the FFM area Sharks shouldn't be affected too much by the fair, hotel prices will be above normal, but you can try south of Darmstadt.
HB