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[QUOTE=Turgid;1982975]I would not take this seriously. I am sure there are guys who would say that they saw street walkers in Santo Domingo who were better looking than high end escorts in Sao Paulo. Beauty is always in the eye of the beholder.[/QUOTE]Obviously, you are entitled to your opinion but you should expect that opinion to be challenged when it conflicts with the experience of others on this forum. Seriously, how much time have you spent in Sao Paulo? You paint yourself as an expert but you seem to disagree with those who actually live there. Its one thing to provide a trip report when you visit, its another thing to post wholesale evaluations of a location based on limited experience.
Yes, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder, but I know quite a few beholders that would say the level of beauty in the higher end SP clinicas is on a par or better than what you find at 4 x 4, or choose any place in Rio. I know both places extremely well and I can unequivocally put myself in the "most demanding" category of mongers. I cannot tell you how many times, I have visited day and night venues and decided against sessioning because there was no one I found worth the price. I say this to establish that I do not give out high marks easily. The last time I went to 4 x 4 was a month ago, and I saw only 1 girl I considered worth asking for her number. There were many there I would not fuck for free. Many women hate the boate atmosphere and the hours and therefore prefer clinica hours. They don't like the schmoozing or the drinking and other night life aspects. Its for this reason, and the reliable income stream that a lot of good talent is available in the SP clinicas. Maybe in your limited time you did not see it, but that is more likely a sampling error than a statistically valid assessment.
One thing I can safely assert is that there is no comparison in the attention to customer satisfaction that the SP management has compared to your average Rio joint. In Rio, the management seldom gives a shit whether you have a good experience. In SP, the business model is very much predicated on return customers. Almost all of the better clinicas have a high degree of return customers and they actively cull their team to eliminate any bad performers. In 2 years of living in Rio, I never saw anything close to the same degree of management involvement, and it translates into much better customer experience, on average.
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[QUOTE=Rovnak;1983151]Obviously, you are entitled to your opinion but you should expect that opinion to be challenged when it conflicts with the experience of others on this forum. Seriously, how much time have you spent in Sao Paulo? You paint yourself as an expert but you seem to disagree with those who actually live there. Its one thing to provide a trip report when you visit, its another thing to post wholesale evaluations of a location based on limited experience.[/QUOTE]And the same back at you. Also, the fact that somebody may live in a place doesn't automatically translate over into having "taste".
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Tangara
Yesterday I went to my favorite clinica, 24 girls in house, some 10 occupied.
I choosed Eduarda, a young 20 yo morena, gorgeous face, slim, model type, small but hard tities ans apple but.
Very GFE, at the beggining she was a little shy but as the action warmed um she turned to be a great DFK.
She's your type of girl Rovnak. She is as slim as Pati, the mulata from Unique.
She performs a fantastic BBBJ, very good CWG, she did CIM to me but I don't know if she will perform it to others.
ABG.
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[QUOTE=Rovnak;1983151]Obviously, you are entitled to your opinion but you should expect that opinion to be challenged when it conflicts with the experience of others on this forum. Seriously, how much time have you spent in Sao Paulo? You paint yourself as an expert but you seem to disagree with those who actually live there. Its one thing to provide a trip report when you visit, its another thing to post wholesale evaluations of a location based on limited experience.
Yes, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder, but I know quite a few beholders that would say the level of beauty in the higher end SP clinicas is on a par or better than what you find at 4 x 4, or choose any place in Rio. I know both places extremely well and I can unequivocally put myself in the "most demanding" category of mongers. I cannot tell you how many times, I have visited day and night venues and decided against sessioning because there was no one I found worth the price. I say this to establish that I do not give out high marks easily. The last time I went to 4 x 4 was a month ago, and I saw only 1 girl I considered worth asking for her number. There were many there I would not fuck for free. Many women hate the boate atmosphere and the hours and therefore prefer clinica hours. They don't like the schmoozing or the drinking and other night life aspects. Its for this reason, and the reliable income stream that a lot of good talent is available in the SP clinicas. Maybe in your limited time you did not see it, but that is more likely a sampling error than a statistically valid assessment.
One thing I can safely assert is that there is no comparison in the attention to customer satisfaction that the SP management has compared to your average Rio joint. In Rio, the management seldom gives a shit whether you have a good experience. In SP, the business model is very much predicated on return customers. Almost all of the better clinicas have a high degree of return customers and they actively cull their team to eliminate any bad performers. In 2 years of living in Rio, I never saw anything close to the same degree of management involvement, and it translates into much better customer experience, on average.[/QUOTE]Unlike yourself I am not an expert at anything. However, my advice to mongers is to not take the opinion of anyone on this board on beauty of providers and visit both cities if you can afford to, but visit Rio first and you may not wish to visit Sao Paulo at all like perhaps 99% of Americans.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;1983400]Unlike yourself I am not an expert at anything. However, my advice to mongers is to not take the opinion of anyone on this board on beauty of providers and visit both cities if you can afford to, but visit Rio first and you may not wish to visit Sao Paulo at all like perhaps 99% of Americans.[/QUOTE]What 99% of Americans do is a non sequitur, it does not prove anything one way or another vis mongering. We all agree that Rio is a far more touristic city and one that all visitors to Brazil should take the time to visit, independent of mongering objectives. I have no argument with your suggestion that a monger attempt to visit both, time permitting. If you had kept your original comments as diplomatic re HungryStud101's trip reports, we would not be disputing anything.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;1983400]Unlike yourself I am not an expert at anything. However, my advice to mongers is to not take the opinion of anyone on this board on beauty of providers and visit both cities if you can afford to, but visit Rio first and you may not wish to visit Sao Paulo at all like perhaps 99% of Americans.[/QUOTE]As an American with a mere 8 visits to Brazil under his belt I can tell you that you are correct about another thing: Sao Paulo is big and intimidating. If it is your first visit to Brazil I would recommend Rio for a multitude of reasons. In Rio you always have your bearings and there are lots of non-hobby tourist attractions and you can spend your time at the beach checking out the gatinhas while sipping a agua de coco or caipirinhas.
However, If you find yourself going to Brazil for business or you have to be in Sao Paulo for any reason I have found that the clinica Brooklin has the best value that I have ever seen. That is, Brooklin has the best combination of good looking girls with the best prices that I have ever seen. I realize that it is all hot or miss but I think I have been to enough places to say that Brooklin is a great deal.
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Hot or miss. Whether intentional or not, it's funny and sums up mongering in a phrase. Well played,
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[QUOTE=HungryStud101;1983445]As an American with a mere 8 visits to Brazil under his belt I can tell you that you are correct about another thing: Sao Paulo is big and intimidating. If it is your first visit to Brazil I would recommend Rio for a multitude of reasons. In Rio you always have your bearings and there are lots of non-hobby tourist attractions and you can spend your time at the beach checking out the gatinhas while sipping a agua de coco or caipirinhas.
However, If you find yourself going to Brazil for business or you have to be in Sao Paulo for any reason I have found that the clinica Brooklin has the best value that I have ever seen. That is, Brooklin has the best combination of good looking girls with the best prices that I have ever seen. I realize that it is all hot or miss but I think I have been to enough places to say that Brooklin is a great deal.[/QUOTE]I may be mistaken for someone who dislikes Sao Paulo. That is definitely not so. I have been there twice and have reported my pleasant encounters here. From my experience SP is better mongering than most other cities on the planet. However, I call out bs when I see it. Anyone who says that Sao Paulo is better mongering than Rio is outright disingenuous. That being said whenever I visit SP again I will make it a point to visit Brooklin. Won't drop it if its hot.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;1983482]I may be mistaken for someone who dislikes Sao Paulo. That is definitely not so. I have been there twice and have reported my pleasant encounters here. From my experience SP is better mongering than most other cities on the planet. However, I call out bs when I see it. Anyone who says that Sao Paulo is better mongering than Rio is outright disingenuous. That being said whenever I visit SP again I will make it a point to visit Brooklin. Won't drop it if its hot.[/QUOTE]You are an odd bird. You alternate be / t belligerent posts and diplomatic ones. In this case you oscillate within a single post. Your post would have been fine if you learned to self edit a bit and stop when you are doing well, after the first few sentences. You admit to having visited SP just twice, yet you insist that you have the expertise to make the definitive judgment call. Though you are admittedly, "not an expert". You say everyone is allowed to form their own opinion, yet you feel justified in calling others "disingenuous" for expressing a contrary opinion.
What reason would I, or anyone else have to be disingenuous about such a silly thing as whether SP is better than Rio when it comes to putaria? I have laid out in great detail the pros and cons of each place. For those that prefer the SP "pros" and cons over the Rio pros and cons, the answer is self evident without any disingenuousness needed.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;1983482]I may be mistaken for someone who dislikes Sao Paulo. That is definitely not so. I have been there twice and have reported my pleasant encounters here. From my experience SP is better mongering than most other cities on the planet. However, I call out bs when I see it. Anyone who says that Sao Paulo is better mongering than Rio is outright disingenuous. That being said whenever I visit SP again I will make it a point to visit Brooklin. Won't drop it if its hot.[/QUOTE]Then you re correct you are not an expert and you do not know what you are talking about. OK, so the veil is lifted. You are nothing but another rude troll making snarky comments.
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[QUOTE=HungryStud101;1983445]As an American with a mere 8 visits to Brazil under his belt I can tell you that you are correct about another thing: Sao Paulo is big and intimidating. If it is your first visit to Brazil I would recommend Rio for a multitude of reasons. In Rio you always have your bearings and there are lots of non-hobby tourist attractions and you can spend your time at the beach checking out the gatinhas while sipping a agua de coco or caipirinhas.
However, If you find yourself going to Brazil for business or you have to be in Sao Paulo for any reason I have found that the clinica Brooklin has the best value that I have ever seen. That is, Brooklin has the best combination of good looking girls with the best prices that I have ever seen. I realize that it is all hot or miss but I think I have been to enough places to say that Brooklin is a great deal.[/QUOTE]Sao Paulo is really easy to get around now with Uber, seriously. And it's not very expensive outside of peak / surge pricing, especially with USD still above BRL 3,00 (for as long as that lasts).
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[QUOTE=HungryStud101;1983531]Then you re correct you are not an expert and you do not know what you are talking about. OK, so the veil is lifted. You are nothing but another rude troll making snarky comments.[/QUOTE]Didn't mean to hurt you. Just making candid statement on which city is better mongering. No emotion on my part as I hobby only and do not rely on charging newbies to take them around an easily navigable city. After all there's uber.
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I'm going to check out SP and Brooklyn is a must apparently LOL. And make a decision on which city I prefer to "monger".
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[QUOTE=Turgid;1983482]I may be mistaken for someone who dislikes Sao Paulo. That is definitely not so. I have been there twice and have reported my pleasant encounters here. From my experience SP is better mongering than most other cities on the planet. However, I call out bs when I see it. Anyone who says that Sao Paulo is better mongering than Rio is outright disingenuous. That being said whenever I visit SP again I will make it a point to visit Brooklin. Won't drop it if its hot.[/QUOTE]To make this statement you should know not just Sao Paulo (that you know from two visits) but also be familiar enough with "most other cities on the plane".
You see the problem?
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[QUOTE=EricCartman;1983559]Sao Paulo is really easy to get around now with Uber, seriously. And it's not very expensive outside of peak / surge pricing, especially with USD still above BRL 3,00 (for as long as that lasts).[/QUOTE]Amen. I would rather navigate Sampa than Rio any day. And Uber has been awesome there. So inexpensive. Yes, São Paulo is huge, but let's be honest, on a visit you will likely only need to navigate 5% of that place. If you are smart about where you stay it is a very enjoyable city.