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asiaphile has somehow started posting again, he just gave someone bad advice in the Cambodia Phnom Penn section.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Admin
[i]Reason: Posting pointlessly disparaging remarks about the WSG forum while sumultaneously promoting other forums and sites.
[blue]If you have a comment or suggestion regarding the way the forum is being run, post it in the "Letters to the Editor" or the "Forum Rules" section were myself and others may respond to the specific issue.[/blue] [/i][/QUOTE]
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Jackson: I find your banning Adlez odd for a variety of reasons. There is a far worse spammer in the Thai section, many of the regular posters, including Joe_Zop met AdleZ and liked him. As regards your specific points:
1. many, perhaps most people here, post the same messages again and again. AdleZ is not alone.
2. Lots of people, RN etc, also like video games. I hate them. My only hobby is real time pu**y.
3. His thing on masturbation was to say he was going to cut back on hookers and spend more on video games, a valid point surely.
4. He is no more a misogynist than many other posters. Read the American women section to find out how misogynistic many of the posters are. AdleZ does have some issues he has to work through but so do all the guys who think American women suck (or don't suck)i
5. His name was banned so he tried to work around it and had been so doing for months.
6. As per point 5.
More generally, I feel the value of the board is coming down all the time. I will be traveling to Thailand, Myanmar, Cambodia and Laos soon on a pu**y safari but I don't see much worthwhile info here; nor do I see much point in posting. Is that me, the board or a mixture? I note, btw, that Freeler, who is currently in LOS, is not posting much here right now. Nor is Joe_Zop. Nor am I but I have not much original to say right now.
[blue]Skinless,
I had intended to wash my hands of the subject and ignore any Adlez follow-up posts, but since it's you posing these questions, I will respond out of respect for your many contributions to this Forum.
1. Actually, as I was reviewing every one of his past messages with the specific intention of preserving those with actual factual content (approximately 20 out of 180 posts), I observed that he had posted the EXACT same message three times, each posting being several months apart from the others. This is a violation of the Forum's Spam Policy. The violation wasn't for posting the same subject, it was for re-posting the EXACT same message.
2. The purpose of this forum is to provide for the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women. Whether some members may like or dislike video games is irrelevant, video games are not a topic for this forum, and thus repeated posting on the subject are a violation of the Forum's Spam Policy. If you want to interact with people who are interested in video games, then please go to one of the 1,000's of forums that specalize on that subject.
3. Again, the purpose of this forum is to provide for the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women. Masturbation is not sex with women, and thus is not a topic for this forum. This is clearly spelled out in the Forum's Spam Policy, and it's a necessary restriction because this forum gets a lot of lurkers who apparently spend all their time jerking off while reading the forum and fantasizing about traveling to foreign countries and fucking the women. I get repeated requests to start a section on masturbation and to post masturbation fantasies that have been sent to me via email. Personally, these monger-wannabes make me sick.
BTW, has anyone observed the irony in that the guy who advocates the find, fuck, forget system has concluded that all the sex he gets is disappointingly "forgettable"?
4. I have been quite clear on the subject of misogyny. American women deserve all the criticism that is leveled against them, and that's why I created a special section for that purpose. However, the women around the world who willingly provide us with the services we need are in a totally different class, and thus deserve our protection and to be treated with some measure of dignity, respect and affection. Even if you don't agree with my position, I don't think it's too much to ask that the members abide by my wishes on this subject. Adlez has consistently, repeatedly and deliberately posted misogynist comments that he knows I find offensive. I permitted him to have his say in the hopes he would get it out of his system, and I've asked him several time to stop. Nevertheless, he has continued to barrage my forum with this same message, which at this point I consider to be a personal insult.
5. Using adaptations or variations of a banned user name is a violation of the Forum's Spam Policy, and for good reason. Serial Spammers always try to re-register a user name bearing some vestige of their banned name as a means to continue their identity. For example, callstreet returned as lacallstreet, then callstreet2, etc. Obviously, this tactic serves notice to the forum that the serial spammer has defied me with a triumphant return, all to spam again. Your friends use of *****, then AdleZ, then using variations like Z.elda, Z>E>L>D>A, or just Z to sign his messages, all were violation of the Forum's Spam Policy. As before, I tried to reason with him, I tried asking him to stop, and I tried to be tolerant, all to no avail.
6. Using variations of banned words is a violation of the Forum's Spam Policies. Same situation as the banned user names, and deliberate and repeated instances are essentially just a big middle index finger aimed at me.
The bottom line: I just decided that I was tired of policing his behavior, tired monitoring his posts, and tired of asking him to exercise just a small amount of restraint. I have better things to do in life. He's worn out his welcome, and he's history. Frankly, I think I've been more than patient.
There's no reason why you, Freeler or Joe_Zop shouldn't want to post. I don't exercise a heavy hand in monitoring the Forum, and I've rarely, if ever, censored anything you have written. Nevertheless, I provide this forum as a FREE service for YOU. If you guys don't want to avail yourself of it's availability, that's your choice, but please understand that I'm not going to lose any sleep because you may have decided that you don't want to use my FREE service.
Jackson[/blue]
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Jackson,
I frankly don't want Adlez banned because, although it may seem he is very repetitious, he still beings a lot of color and humor to an otherwise boring thread. Skinless is right - this board is not providing as much valuable information as it has the capability to provide. I would ask you to reconsider your decision to ban Adlez - I do believe he has a lot to contribute, albeit, it's on the darker fringes of male-female interaction.
...(prog)
[blue]Progman,
I think you guys should consider another perspective here. One reason that the Forum isn't as valuable a source of travel information that I wished it was is specifically because there's too much chit-chat surrounding the real information. Case in point: I reviewed every one of Adlez's 180+ "reports", of which exactly 20 actually contained in whole or in part some real information, a ratio of just over 11%. I preserved these reports and deleted the others, but frankly, that's a lot of clutter to read through just to get to the real information.
The WSG Forum is a research tool, not a chat room.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
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Jackson: Thanks for going to the trouble to reply. I have had my say on Adlez but I would like to address some more general points made. I do this to reduce the overall level of crap being produced:
1. General chit chat on video games etc: all that is partly a reflection of the board's structure. I think contributors could and should look at some way of cutting down on posting general bs. That is a general problem, not confined to the Thai board.
2. American women: I have only posted once in that section, to ask Joe_Zop something on depression. That said, even though I don't agree with the main trust of that section (American women are no good - all of them??), I find it interesting on occasion as some good posters are to be found there.
3. masturbation: On reflection, I am sure you get plenty of sickos, though in my innocence, I would not have suspected it.
4. Progman and AdleZ: there is a very dark side to sex in Thailand and it is that dark side I am interested in. Although Adlez' mantra is repetitive and often offensive, it is an important metric to have. The main rule in sex and sun countries must be not to lose the head with these women as all kinds of disasters can quickly follow.
5. Future posts: I might throw something in on the Tokyo section after I do some more bonking here. However, my next main project is a real heart of darkness tour, from Myanmar to Papua New Guinea, fucking everything in between with the help of cebu man and soem others.
6. Jackson, thank you for replying to myself and Progman. Hoopefully, if this helps us to focus more on what we want from the board, it wil be all very beneficial.
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regarding adlez, maybe u can limit his posts only in the thai women section...
i can see the ban in the pattaya section since he never contributes anything there except that mcdonalds is the best resturant there...
tapioca
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RE: Adlez
Guys,
The board is Jacksons and he is banning users as he sees fit. I think too many people forget the simple fact that, we are all guest on this site if we don't like the way things are going on the board we are free to just leave. Also just as we are free to leave the site Jackson is free to make the rules. Live by the rules or leave it is really very simple, we are all adults here. The poster Adlez is gone and that should just be the end of it.
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Jackson -- you've stated your reasoning very well, and I defer to it, but I'd like to make a couple of comments regarding the whole situation.
1. It is the nature of non-threaded conference systems to go and stay off topic at times. Threaded conferences are more forgiving, as it's possible to easily have multiple discussions in a section or even within a single conversation, and thus to allow digressions without harming the overall flow of information. The ability to mothball or prune and entire off-topic thread, after letting it run its course, also gives those on the forum the opportunity to feel free to post while keeping the system valuable.
2. Part of the nature of a forum, regardless of what its defined purpose happens to be, is also that it becomes a virtual community. Part of the purpose of digressive discussions (and let me be clear -- I could care less about video games, and I get extremely tired of the political ranting which surfaces regularly) is to strengthen that community, to allow for a sense of intimacy, and thereby to encourage contribution. This is not about it being a chat room, but about allowing individual and personal connection to the community regardless of whether someone has something useful to say at that particular moment. Most folks on this board are not, and any given instant, engaging the services of a woman -- they are researching it, and still want to find a way to be connected. On one of the forums I ran for years, the most active single discussion was about the weather, which was completely and totally off-topic from the oft-repeated and generally followed purpose of the board. But by having a limited number of such topics people stay connected and the pointless stuff is given a place.
3. I've said this before and I'll say it again -- posters who engage in endless and ongoing bashing of other posters are far more damaging to a forum such as this than are repetitious postings. I can go through every forum here and find repetition -- from the same sob stories being repeated by the exact same posters in the American Women section, to the same "American Women suck" assertion being placed absolutely everywhere, to the same personal anecdotes being posted in various places in the Thailand section by people other than the one in question. Fine, people tend to repeat themselves. Things that had an effect on them end up being said again. But you can look at the Bangkok sections right now and over the past couple of months and there is a huge amount of trash-talking and attempts at personal intimidation, much by a poster who's crowed that he posted useful stuff but has deleted it all because those in the section are not worthy of receiving it. Perhaps you've done it somewhere, but I've yet to really feel any reining in of that, depite essentially ongoing campaigns against specific posters. Sorry, but this is decidedly more problematic and more a reason to give pause about posting than are conversations about video games or being burned out on sex. Right now those sections are decidedly less inviting places to post.
I've not posted much in the past week or two because I've been busy, had a lousy net connection, and, since the end of my stay in Thailand is fast approaching, I've been focusing on my time here. I think it's clear from the field reports I posted that I'm not feeling constrained, though I do get a bit tired of being bashed sideways for no particular reason here and there.
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sexreview,
Your logic makes little sense. Yes, this is Jackson's board. Okay, it's his “football”. But if nobody posts then what good is it? A football is only fun if there are others contributing – throwing, catching, etc... Get the picture? Jackson has a “right” to protect himself legally and, to a lesser degree, he should be able to assert some guidelines in order to keep the flow of information coming, but the bottom line is if he says "It's my ball so you only play by my rules" then, guess what, we'll find another “ball” and there are other ones out there. Thank goodness Jackson hasn't done that. He has been very liberal at times in what he does allow. I was trying to explain why I thought a poster should not be banned. I guess I'm glad Jackson doesn't have the same attitude as you.
...(prog)
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adlez was quite obviously a troll we're all better off without him. I don't understand why anyone would want to support him, and I'm quite happy that he's been banned.
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BassGod was correct he was a troll.
Hopefully the next one is NR.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by octatron
[i]BassGod was correct he was a troll.
Hopefully the next one is NR. [/i][/QUOTE]
Oh God that would be too good to be true.
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z may come across as annoying but we need a bad guy so we can be the good guys. He offers a counterpoint that stimulates discussions.
Personally i find him more entertaining then annoying.
Why not keep him in the Thai women section only? That place is like a hangout for us regulars.
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Man I think Octaron seems more like The Troll. I thought he was my friend,,, Uncool on him,,,, NIBU R......
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Nibu
Did you ever hear the saying? "Quality over quantity"
Myself and many others are just sick and tired of all your posts that don't provide much information but server space.
Not to mention you have disgraced Peru and Chile.
So please, I think most of the regulars will support me on this. If you are not providing useful information to this board, don't bother posting anything.
This forum is not a chat room! We especially don’t need to hear your political views! And when will you figure out the words “W h o r e” and “s l u t” are blacked out on this forum!
Did you ever figure out why Jackson created a Nibu in Buenos Aires, and a Nibu in Peru. Think about it!
Thanks from all of us!
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OWWW Sorry Octatron my posts are very informative it is cause of idiots like you and Chupanalgas I have stoped posting new info now. I thought you were my friend ,,,,Great I hope I never see you in my territory Lima Peru. Do not make me out as an idiot Which I am not. Why do you call me a Troll? Man You are The Troll? I have not ruined Chile I have put new info there. Hey if you are such a Sailor boy How come your ship never hits the ports of Valparaiso Chile Or Callao Peru? Do not play with my intelligence I might not have the money like you but I have seen a lot more then you ever have. Man that is why the WSg Goes Bad cause of everyone attacking each other. Yeh Come to Lima and stay in Miraflores only cause you are to scared to go anywhere else in Lima. You are probably one of the many US guys who spoil it for us and pay too much money. Good Stay out of Lima Yes there are two senor Frogs now in Lima and pay those Ruka Chicks a lot of money overpay dude overpay and go to Tequlia Rock in Lima and OVERPAY. Man I am pissed off This WSG is supposed to be about helping people out. Lets see What else you can post over me NOTHING NOTHING.............................. SORRY Jackson I e mailed you on this problem I have a right to be a 100% Mad Maybe I will make some new posts in Feburary
as For Now I wait and watch and hope WSG goes for good in 2003,,,,, Sincerly NIBU R................