Bangkok Massage Parlors - ANNIES ONLY!

[QUOTE=Aey Annies]
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Happy new year.
The Aey team.

P.S also attached are some pictures of our supposedly old ugly girls that poster on the ISG post about not one over the age of 23 and all of them are a*** girls. We have many many more but these are only some of our girls many do not want there pictures on the internet.[/QUOTE]
Any publicity, positive or negative, can be helpful just to promote the name. As you can see, members who like Annies won't be scared away by the odd negative report (especially if from a relatively new poster).

But posting some pics is a great approach IMHO. I am yet to try Annies, and have had little interest in the positive or negative reports. However there is nothing like a pic of a hot girl that suits my taste to attract my attention. I don't care much about the specifics of what services are available as long as it includes Sex. Its really about does the girl attract my attention, and then does she have a warm personality with good mutual chemistry possibilities.

Nic recently suddenly interested me in Akane, to where I have never been also, a fair portion owing to the picture of the girl. Not sure if all the guys are visually attracted in the same way as me.

Now that I have viewed the Annies pics, I would say none of the girls are actually to my taste (some are O.K.). I prefer a slim girl with a narrow face with cute little nose.
Do you any like that? But don't worry too much. I am very very hard to please. Some others might like these girls. I know that other guys go for a Chinese sort of look but I don't. Others are looking for a great personality and performance and looks don't have to be to model standard.

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]But posting some pics is a great approach IMHO. I am yet to try Annies, and have had little interest in the positive or negative reports. However there is nothing like a pic of a hot girl that suits my taste to attract my attention. I don't care much about the specifics of what services are available as long as it includes Sex. Its really about does the girl attract my attention, and then does she have a warm personality with good mutual chemistry possibilities..[/QUOTE]Annies girls are all pictured on the web site, and since its relevent to the discussion here is the website link minus a couple of letters, easy to guess, for the girls photo's ( [url]http://www.a**iesbangkok.com/Girls.html[/url] )

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The whole idea of a forum from a readers point of view is open talk that everyone can learn by, not flame the new poster and let’s make sure their views are not heard as they do not follow what we want. From the forum owners point of view you want the regulars to keep posting and grow your membership group so they post. I think you understand what I am trying to say here. Me and 2 regular customers went through this thread again and noted what others have told me, new people with negative comments get a thumb’s up more so if it is about certain places, new readers with positive comments get flamed so this means all new posts must only say bad things. Is this a good?
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I think you virtually confirmed that some posters on this forum could be not genuine.
New posters would do well to not behave suspiciously.
"Fun for Asia" has no track record of previous posts. So we might be skeptical about his negative comments. If he posted same report on multiple forums under different names, could be suspicious .... Really out to get at Annies???
"Aussiebren" has only 2 posts total and both about Annies. This is highly suspicous.
"Ibeme" on the other hand has a history of posts (only 4) but on completely unrelated topics and spread over time, so is not going to be treated with suspicion. He is obviously a real forum member.
Now if someone was really devious they could build up a false persona over time but I doubt they have the patience to do so since 2003.

No need for a new poster to immediately jump to the defense of something that another poster has just said negative things about.
Leave that for the long term posters to do.
Also wise not to be suspicously negative in early posts.
Posters who are mostly negative are not always well received.

We treat both negative and positive comments with suspicion, but its the immediate reply posts from new posters that draw the most suspicion of all.
It just stands out like "dogs balls" as we say.
Its sometimes unfortunate we are skeptical people, but we have too much experience with scams and tricksters in Thailand to believe everything reported anonymously at face value.
e.g.
A new poster spreading wild HIV rumours was certainly behaving very suspicously. Why didn't he start with several positive posts of some good experiences.

New posters will be judged on what they write, right or wrong. If new posters right useful and fair stuff and don't behave suspiciously, all will be well.

Lastly don't bother to comment on how this forum treats newcomers. The forum is just a conglomerate of people of every level of intellegence and personailty. We all, newcomers or not, have to tolerate/ignore being attacked at times by those who just don't understand us or have misinterpreted our motives. There will always be those members who live for denigrating others. Thats life. They are not worth worrying about.

Consistently negative posters may end up on people's ignore lists.

The purpose of the forum is for you to get useful information, if you believe the posters giving it, and to give us useful information too. The best information is of course just factual data that is unrelated to someone's opinion.

WRT annies: When I was there last summer I thought it was good but not excellent. Girls were not as attractive as I had hoped and in fact not up to the level found in the neighborhood beer bars. I had an extended warm bath with a very friendly girl with a great attitude, and thought the bath part was excellent. We finished with a brief massage and fuck that wasn't very inspired (or at least did not hold up to the standard set by the bath). I'd prefer a better massage and in retrospect should have asked for a soapy mattress body to body rub. Relative to other options in that area, pricing seemed a bit high at 1500 + 500 tip. Your mileage may vary.

Next trip I'll be looking for a good oily or lotion.

[QUOTE=Aey Annies]I would love to add more info on the services we offer but there are legal reasons why this is not on our website. Please if you have any questions about this area send me an email .
The Aey Team.[/QUOTE]
Is this post from Aey, or someone on her behalf "The Aey Team" ?
Anyway, most mongers in Thailand are aware that a simple * next to a girls name indicates anal, there are other MP/ Oileys in Thailand that use that symbol on their websites....might help overcome legal reasons.

Since a few days I get an error message trying to access [url]http://www.anniesbangkok.com/[/url]

Am I the only one?

Has the provider blocked access from Germany? (I have not yet tried using a foreign proxy)

Any suggestions?

[QUOTE=Daddy San]Since a few days I get an error message trying to access [url]http://www.anniesbangkok.com/[/url]

Am I the only one?

Has the provider blocked access from Germany? (I have not yet tried using a foreign proxy)

Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]Daddy San,

The website is not accessable from Thailand/Bangkok either at this moment - what until tomorrow and check again.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Etaoin2003]Relative to other options in that area, pricing seemed a bit high at 1500 + 500 tip[/QUOTE]

I have been to Annies a few times over the years, and I generally concur with what most people say about it. Yes some of the girls can be a little older or more experienced shall we say than other options available, but sometimes that provides a different type of experience which some mongers may seek out.

My main criticism of Annies is their pricing. It [i]seems[/i] cheap at B1500 which "includes the extras", and this is a marketing point that they seem to use a lot when promoting their services. However, I recently heard that the girls at Annies only get something like B300 of that amount, which I find quite shocking. These girls essentially work for tips, and I would suspect that ambiguous pricing structure leads their customers into not tipping appropriately. This is not the customer's fault for being cheap, but I think Annies should be more honest about their pricing structure, because it will have an adverse effect on how much they earn. If one tips the girl appropriately for services rendered on top of the B1500, then it ceases to become cheap anymore.

I also heard that the girls have to buy all their own products for the bathing part, ie all the soaps and what not out of their own pocket. I like Annies, and have enjoyed myself there every time I have been. It is a Bkk institution, and most of us have gone their at some point or another. Just take into consideration how the pricing works so you do not inadvertany stiff the girl at the end of the session.

PS - If I have been misinformed about this, then I would appreciate being corrected and apologise in advance to Aey Annies. But I believe my info is accurate due to the source.

[QUOTE=L A Guy]I have been to Annies a few times over the years, and I generally concur with what most people say about it. Yes some of the girls can be a little older or more experienced shall we say than other options available, but sometimes that provides a different type of experience which some mongers may seek out.

My main criticism of Annies is their pricing. It [i]seems[/i] cheap at B1500 which "includes the extras", and this is a marketing point that they seem to use a lot when promoting their services. However, I recently heard that the girls at Annies only get something like B300 of that amount, which I find quite shocking. These girls essentially work for tips, and I would suspect that ambiguous pricing structure leads their customers into not tipping appropriately. This is not the customer's fault for being cheap, but I think Annies should be more honest about their pricing structure, because it will have an adverse effect on how much they earn. If one tips the girl appropriately for services rendered on top of the B1500, then it ceases to become cheap anymore.

I also heard that the girls have to buy all their own products for the bathing part, ie all the soaps and what not out of their own pocket. I like Annies, and have enjoyed myself there every time I have been. It is a Bkk institution, and most of us have gone their at some point or another. Just take into consideration how the pricing works so you do not inadvertany stiff the girl at the end of the session.

PS - If I have been misinformed about this, then I would appreciate being corrected and apologise in advance to Aey Annies. But I believe my info is accurate due to the source.[/QUOTE]

I think that it's a bit better than that - I believe that the ladies get around 500 of the pre-tip amount. In any case, the only time I "stiff" the ladies is during the session - hopefully, at least a couple of times. And at Annies, I would tip 300 for indifferent service, 500 for average to good service, and 700 for exceptional service, above the 1500 base fee.

[QUOTE=L A Guy] I recently heard that the girls at Annies only get something like B300 of that amount, which I find quite shocking [/QUOTE]The amount we pay our staff I feel should not be public domain but as it has been brought up on this forum already 3 times in varying different ways of asking and styles I will answer the same way as I did then, both on this forum and others.

There are multiple levels of payment, this is due to different venues, positions, experience and length of service. Hard cash is not the only benefit for working for Annie’s, their is subsidized food and drink, free accommodation fully airconed and clean. Free laundering services, linen, towels, monthly cash bonuses based on service and customer reports and a gold bonus once a month plus the big once a year gold bonus for long term servers and many many more. If we where so bad compared to other places in this area of business then why do we have long term staff members?, some staying for over 10 years All our staff come from word of mouth, staff speaking to people they know explaining the benefits of working for us. If it was so bad and not a good arrangement we would have no staff, there are hundreds of places even on our soi that offer jobs of this nature, many fighting for staff, we do not.

Please do not turn this into one of those huge discussions about tipping as this seems to be one of the main arguing points about the P4P industry as a whole in Thailand and everyone has there own views about it. If you want to discuss this again and again then please not under the Annie’s topic of posting as this is not just about Annie’s.

[QUOTE=L A Guy] This is not the customer's fault for being cheap, [/QUOTE]
Why did you say this, why did you bring this up?

[QUOTE=L A Guy]. I also heard that the girls have to buy all their own products for the bathing part, ie all the soaps and what not out of their own pocket[/QUOTE]
We used to buy the products for the ladies but then a few months into doing this the ladies starting saying, “I want this brand of soap not that one”, or “ I want this mouth wash as I do not like the one you are buying etc etc”.

We thought about adding extra money in to salaries even the staff bringing in receipts and we pay them back but all as you can imagine ended up with massive problems and inconsistencies, so we increased by a % the total amount the ladies get per customer to cover this and we asked them to buy there own, this keeps the ladies happy and the head aches away.

[QUOTE=L A Guy] but I think Annies should be more honest about their pricing structure, because it will have an adverse effect on how much they earn. If one tips the girl appropriately for services rendered on top of the B1500, then it ceases to become cheap anymore. Just take into consideration how the pricing works so you do not inadvertany stiff the girl at the end of the session. [/QUOTE]May I say thanks that you are thinking about our ladies as this is a good thing and we respect your comments on this.

If you tip our ladies 600bt for example on top of the 1500bt can you confirm where else in our area you can find a LEGAL massage parlor that offers this price range or cheaper.

[QUOTE=L A Guy] I like Annies, and have enjoyed myself there every time I have been. It is a Bkk institution, and most of us have gone their at some point or another[/QUOTE]Our customer base is 70% xpats and revisiting customers. We have a loyal and strong following and most customers once they have come, come again and again. This we see is down to our staff’s attitude and service quality. Our ladies are very happy to work with us and get allot of other benefits besides what I have written above, which all comes off our bottom line. Of course we want to keep ourselves good value for our clients and keep a profit after our outgoings have been paid. We also want our ladies to get the best money they can for there time as this keeps the long term servers with regular clients coming in to see there favorites and also supplies us with new staff. In the last 7 months our staff levels have gone from 41, 70. They must have come for some reason and for the most they have stayed.

[QUOTE=L A Guy] I believe my info is accurate due to the source. [/QUOTE]The info I have given is accurate.

As a final note and I have said it on this forum before, we have our payment rate set at this level for a reason.

If a lady is given for eg out of the 1500bt, 1000bt, a % of working girls would sit back and be a star fish during the session, no matter how much training we give them and how hard we pushed them and even this happening a few time is too late, Annie’s has lost customers and some of our reputation. Our profits would be hit and the extra benefits our staff get would all be taken away and at a guess later down the line we would close due to no money. If we only gave them 300bt, 99% of the staff would leave.

The money we pay them is not amazing but with other benefits we are a good choice for the working lady. The payment is not amazing so we push for the girls to give service better and better so if good enough and we have a satisfied customer (good for Annie’s) the customer offers a tip (good for the lady). Maybe we could raise our prices to 2000bt and give the rest of the money as a certain to the lady. These has a 3 problems.

1 Our regulars would see this as a negative and we run the risk of loosing them.

2 We deal not just with people from one country our clients are from all over the world many different countries and the way pricing is viewed by different cultures effects trade at present a 2000bt price point would not work.

3 The amount of money the lady makes from the start off could make us cross over to the starfish payment point.

The Aey Team

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Based on reliable and "knowledgeable" sources, the girls at Annie's get 300 of the 1500 Bhat in-house service. For an outcall, they get 500 of the 2000. This is also in agreement with earlier reports in this forum. I will be at Annie's later this week, and I will check again to make sure.

I think it is important that we know that and take that into account when we figure our "costs". Yes, essentially these girls work for tips, and if we spend an enjoyable 2 hours or so with them, 500B or more is not unreasonable. Some guys seem to get great delight in reporting how little they spend on a girl. I for one would rather spend a little more, have a little more fun, and have the girl delighted to see me again if I show up a second time. If they did a great job I want them to know it and to be rewarded.

It's not about how much or how little money I spend, it is more about my own personal self respect and esteem, and the memory I have a week or a month later. It's not about a cheap f***.

I am in Jakarta and just spent several hours with a perfectly delightful young lady. Yes, I overpaid. Based on information in the forums, I could easily have had 5 girls, but probably in flea infested "hotels" where the sheets haven't been changed in weeks.

No thanks! I stay in a 5-star hotel and "overpay", and have the number of a girl who wants to see me again the next time I'm in Indonesia.

[QUOTE=Daddy San]Since a few days I get an error message trying to access [url]http://www.anniesbangkok.com/[/url]

Am I the only one?

Has the provider blocked access from Germany? (I have not yet tried using a foreign proxy)

Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]
Annies web site working again.

This is more than can be said for Tarawadee. [url]http://www.tarawadee.com/[/url]
has been down for months.
The message in Thai with picture says "We apologise that the site is a period of adjustment of the web site", but it has been undergoing adjustment for a very very long time.
Has Tarawadee gone downhill?
No one has reported a visit there for a long time.
Perhaps the web site girls gallery was not representative of girls that actually worked there any longer.

[QUOTE=Aey Annies] We have a loyal and strong following and most customers once they have come, come again and again. [/QUOTE]

I would say that's true. Each time I went there, I came, and came again. That's why I went back - I was a well satisfied customer. But it's a shame that Nok doesn't work there any more - she was the very best and I wish her all happiness.

[QUOTE=Aey Annies]...Annie’s is 1500bt 2 hours and even if you give 500-600-700bt tip...[/QUOTE]
This clarifies the price for me, is there anyone else who needs to keep this subject going, the price including 2 shots, 2hours is 1,500 Baht, feel free to tip if you want. I agree with Aey and Mick, the Annies subject has been shagged to death.

More in line with the report title, i would like to ask this.....Why do we need to know, or even care what a provider gets paid ? Lets go on the basis that the provider is willing to work at their place of employment and they understand the terms and conditions and money they will receive from the house etc.....it is up to the provider to make that decision, i don't see why we have to run around as punters, subsidising the issue, if a provider isn't earning enough, they can move.....In my role i pay a western design company x thousands of USD per month to perform a series of duties, the person who actually carries out these duties gets paid by the company, do i care what he earns ? Do i send him extra money because i feel it's not enough ? Nope, i pay the company for his services, if his cut is not enough he can go somewhere else, same as the p4p providers.

The only clause to the above is that i will never ever set foot in Nancy House on Soi 1, the girls here start on 300 baht for the 2hr FS job. Why don't all the crusaders trying to increase the prices at Annies so the girls can earn more try starting with Nancy House !

[QUOTE=Meaty]This clarifies the price for me, is there anyone else who needs to keep this subject going, the price including 2 shots, 2hours is 1, 500 Baht, feel free to tip if you want. I agree with Aey and Mick, the Annies subject has been shagged to death.

More in line with the report title, I would like to ask this. Why do we need to know, or even care what a provider gets paid? Lets go on the basis that the provider is willing to work at their place of employment and they understand the terms and conditions and money they will receive from the house etc. It is up to the provider to make that decision, I don't see why we have to run around as punters, subsidising the issue, if a provider isn't earning enough, they can move. In my role I pay a western design company x thousands of USD per month to perform a series of duties, the person who actually carries out these duties gets paid by the company, do I care what he earns? Do I send him extra money because I feel it's not enough? Nope, I pay the company for his services, if his cut is not enough he can go somewhere else, same as the p4p providers.

The only clause to the above is that I will never ever set foot in Nancy House on Soi 1, the girls here start on 300 baht for the 2hr FS job. Why don't all the crusaders trying to increase the prices at Annies so the girls can earn more try starting with Nancy House! [/QUOTE]You can use the english language much better than I can and in someways this is what in part I was trying to say so thank you very much.

Really please please enough is enough. I have been trying to not post on here as we all know what is going on and any smart person can see it. The fast Venomous replies that go on and on and on leave it alone. WHY? If there are things to be said then same them in a strait way the same as if done with ant other place. Just this forum no others, if there is anything over not good said about Annie's they carry the same forum names as on this forum. Check it out I am telling the truth

If you look hard enough at the most perfect thing in world you will see bad If you dig an dig and dig, I have never pocked on one place over and over and again in fact not even once and even if I did would people not think why?

I am singing off now really really really I am trying as I tried to before to right on other forums not full of posters under false multiple names to help there own businesses buy putting others down and to help my customers as best I can. If can help members of this forum in anyway please email.

The Aey Team

P. S Meaty please may I buy you a few beers just for saying what should be said in a smarter way than I can thanks.

Please send an email to me through our website and we can sort it out for you when you walk past next time.