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PARTIAL NAGOYA GUIDE
The redlight district is in Sakae. You'll know you're there because of all the lights, all the signs listing prices for services, and all the touts. Most of the touts are for services for women. The ones outside clubs holding menus are for men. In the redlight district, most places are strip clubs (some are euro). There are also massage girls, soaplands, clubs for women, and non-redlight district stores (McDonalds, 24 hour store, etc...). The atmosphere is fairly friendly and safe. While I was there, I saw some Americans walking in pairs (4 different pairs of Americans), looking for action.
Let me first say that Nagoya is different from Tokyo in several important ways. Speaking from experience, experiences in one city do not apply to the same extent in the other. For example, while I got good to excellent service in Nagoya (YMMV), I got bad to good service in Tokyo. And whereas I got turned away politely from 80% of clubs in Nagoya, I got turned away rudely from 95% of clubs in Tokyo. My numbers are based on approaching more than 40 clubs and later speaking with many locals. Also, people in Nagoya are several times more honest than in Tokyo, although I've found it's more important what kind of establishment you're dealing with.
If you are dealing with a legitimate establishment such as a strip club with Japanese employees, you will absolutely never be cheated. You get exact change with a receipt, and when I overpaid by accident, they gave my money back. When they said 40 minutes, it was 40 minutes on the minute. The same can't be said for strip clubs in most other countries. Of course, the same is less true for clubs with non-Japanese workers and even less true for massage girls.
I'm Asian with basic Japanese, but to most clubs I'm definitely gaijin. Their reason is, if I talk too loudly I'll drive away Japanese customers. Even a Japanese customer would drive away Japanese customers if they talked as loud and assertively as some Americans do, it's the same as that baby that keeps crying at the restaurant. If you notice on the subways and trains, no one talks loud, because they're not supposed to. My conclusion is our chances of getting into a club are greatly increased if we are polite, low key, and reasonably dressed. Also, the less busy the club is, the more your chances get. Of course, if you're just looking for massage girls, all you need is money.
Near one of the 24 hour stores (the only one I saw, but I'm sure there's more) are many massage girls. 6k and up is the going rate, but make absolutely sure you negotiate exactly what you want beforehand or you will not get it unless you pay more. I spoke with 20 of them (I speak several languages), and they are without exception all Chinese, generally from Beijing. So 6k is a large sum of money, and they'd rather have your business than no business at all. They generally will service gaijin in addition to their usual clientele of Japanese. Since they are Chinese, they like money a lot more than they like sex, so you're not likely to get charity from them. Make sure you're clear on what you're getting. My modus is to simply ask them what they'll offer, because it is much more likely they will not offer on their own initiative anything they won't deliver. Whereas if they see the only way to get your money is to agree to something you proposed but they won't do, they'll take your money. That's how a massage girl who doesn't like sex but likes money thinks.
For massage girls, there are freelancers, and then there girls working for a specific shop. I'm guessing that freelancers are more flexible in negotiations, because they don't have to pay the house (or keep track of earnings). I was approached by two freelancers, both very attractive, and I took one up on her offer for 6k for a HJ. I enjoyed it, and it was memorable. She allowed me to kiss her during it (at one point she rested her head on my chest) and after, but nothing beyond that. Afterward, she suggested I take a shower (not with her), but I wasn't about to let my gaurd down and declined. Unless you are at a Japanese establishment with Japanese girls, I would not let your gaurd down. If her hands on me are as good as on my wallet, I'm going to keep my pants in view at all times. =)
You can recognize many massage girls because they will congregate at specific locations and openly advertise "Massagi" to passerbys, occasionally approaching potential customers.
The one Japanese strip club (as opposed to euro) that let me in was awsome, even though it was probably a typical strip club in Japan (actually I take that back, Nagoya is generally better than Tokyo). They give you all you can drink drinks, you can pay extra to select the girl, or you can let them pick for you. You pay for the time you spend there (6k-10k for 40 mins to 60 mins) and for each girl that entertains you (3k each girl, 15-20 mins). You're allowed to fondle by hand any area but the pussy, and do other things which I enjoyed thoroughly. It even says so on the brochure with photo illustration! (I got a kick when I saw it)
The first two girls they picked for me were awsome. I paid to keep going for another hour. The next three girls were good in their own way. This was my best experience at a strip club. If you want to get in and stay in, don't talk loudly and stay low key.
I have not tried soaplands in Nagoya. I left that for Tokyo where they were many more establishments. If anyone has info, please inform.
In Nagoya (as in Tokyo), there are small shops that contain advertisements and brochures for the various (generally legitimate) clubs. I walked in and picked up some brochures as souveniers.
TOKYO (OFF-TOPIC)
In Tokyo of Kabukicho, there was even a larger shop of this type which would escort you to the club advertised. I must have been one of the few gaijin to ever ask them if any of their advertised clubs allowed gaijin, because they simply didn't know one way or the other (or perhaps he was just politely saying no without hurting my feelings in true Japanese fashion). I tried one club (among the 40 I approached) and recognized as gaijin (because I opened my damn mouth) and was turned away. That club would have let me in if I went in with other Japanese customers. But I digress, that report should go into the Tokyo section.
Traveler X
Dear all,
just an advice for foreigner visitor in Nagoya, in some hotels (as Marriott) you can find a guide where the only night club(!) mentioned is "Parsley" club.
I tried it last week, it's very expensive (about 20.000yen) to have nothing! Just drink something with a girls (low-medium level), if you want to have more first go outside (e.g. your Hotel) and pay a lot.
Next time in Nagoya I will try some other places that some my colleagues suggested me, unfortunately later.
Bye,
Dawkins
Spent a night with Tina, an independent escort. She has lived in the US for several years and speaks great English. She is in her thirties, lives in Nagoya. She has a regular job so you have to arrange a time with her when she is off or afterwork. She is nice company, laid back, enjoys making love. I hate being rushed so it is worth it to book a room and spend the night with her.
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Tokyo Joe
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Hey Tokyo Joe,
I live in Nagoya and would love to meet Tina. Jackson deleted the contact info you posted. Can you send her contact info to me via the WSG private messaging system?
I recently found a soap land in Nagoya that accepts foreigners. That report is coming soon.
2x4
writing about a soapland that accepts foreigners in nagoya. seemed like you had to speak some japanese though. place is called the therapist written in katakana "serapisuto". most of the ladies were older upper 20's and 30's. looks vary quite a bit, some of the pictures i saw were pretty bad. went with a girl named jun. had a shower and she washed me. then fs with condom finished with shooting my load in her mouth. cost 16,000 yen. overall decent experience.
place was located near the daiei in sakae. from daiei go 1/2 block south and 1 block east. there is a small street that cars can't go down.
ask any tout on the street for the therapist and he'll point you in the right direction.
For others who are interestd in checking out Tina (reported by Tokyo Joe) I have been informed by Tina that she will be moving overseas sometime in September and that there will be no more business after September 7. So those interested in setting up a date with her will need to do so pronto.
I am always disapointed at the lack of info in this thread. So here goes an update.
I actually met Tina several months back. Her looks were OK and techniques OK. She was pleasant to talk to but I wan't all that impressed. Anyway Tina is gone now she moved to LA or something like that.
There is a Blowjob establishment next to the "Serapisuto" that I mentioned in an earlier report. Name of blowjob bar is "5 Doors" or "5 Rooms" The tout speaks some English but is pretty slimy. I specifically asked for a thin girl (in flawless Japanese) and I get paired with a big boned girl. "Hello! Pimp san, did I not just tell you that I like thin girls." I was too drunk to notice she was fat before we got to the room and she took off her robe. Had one round of BBBJ/CIM and left with about 20 minutes on the clock. The girl was fat and dumb. No thanks.
I had my revenge on the way out. I walk about with 20 minutes on the clock and the doorman starts freaking about. He says, "What happened! You have 20 minutes left!" So I just tell him I am tired want to go home. It drove him fucking nuts and he was full of apologies.
Anyway I wish there were more Nagoya reports. Hello out there.
For non Japanese speaking mongers, Nagoya is a difficult town. I travel to Nagoya several times a year and always call for delivery service. I prefer the various wives delivery service. You can get someone for 120 minutes for less than 20,000. No FS but, alot of other options. If you are a regular, you can discuss about tipping the girl.
I am going to check out a new place I found browsing the web. Report to follow.
Tokyo Joe
Last time in NGO (11/2004), staff at Hilton told me that the subject pub closed down some time in 2004. It was located quite close to Hilton.
A friend told me it was a hot bed for Korean Air, Cathay Pacific and Singapore Airlines flight attendants overnighting in NGO and staying at Hilton.
Anyone have experience?
The pub that used to be close to the HIlton was called ACROSS THE BORDER.
It has indeed closed down but has reopened under the name ROCK A BEAT CAFE. Different owners. I haven't been there yet and cannot confirm nor deny the flight staff rumors.
If you are looking to mingle with local girls SHOOTERS sports bar is a much better choice and it is within walking distance from the Hilton. Pick up a copy of a local magazine called JAPANZINE for a complete bar guide of Nagoya. I think their URL is [url]www.japan-zine.com[/url].
I am writing with an update of a place I have written about earlier.
5 Doors. Oral sex only. Condom Bj or BBBJ depending on the girls looks. Ony the fat and ugly ones do BBBJ. Things have been very slow for me lately so I paid 5 Doors a visit.
Go upstairs and am shown pictures of 2 girls. 1 of them is decent looking and the other one ugly. I choose the good looking one and am told she is for "Japanese only". So it's either the ugly one or nothing. I stand up and walk. Big burly Yakuza door man is visibly upset and menacingly waves his hand at me to shoo me away. Not a great experience.
The best bet for mongering in Nagoya is trying to pick up local girls.
more bad news from the nagoya mongering scene.
after my shitty experience at 5 doors (same night as the post below) i went to an area where i know there are street walkers.
i was fairly drunk passed some pretty ugly ones and found a half decent looking sw. we agree to go to her place. get there. pay my money. she takes off her pants and boing! i'd been had. she was a guy. like something out of the movies. i got half money back after threatening to kick in her...er....his flat screen tv.
in retrospect i should have gotten it all back and kicked in the flat screen but i was pretty shaken at the time and was expecting to be chloroformed and ass raped at any second. just wanted to get out of there. so it was a shitty night for me but makes for a funny story.
beware of street walkers in nagoya!
I recently read a note from Tina on another board. She is back in Nagoya until the end of March. You can contact her by email. She is looking for companionship.
Tky Joe
I would like to move the Dohan discussion to the Nagoya thread. Mainly because the Tokyo Thread is crowded, the Nagoya thread is pathetically slow and could use the attention, and I am basing my reports on a hostess club in Nagoya.
Also, aside from Nampa, hostess clubs might be the next best option as Nagoya is very unfreindly to foreign mongers.
BTW Tokyo Joe, did you ever go through with the foreigner freindly delivery health in Nagoya?
I am re-posting this message
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Originally posted by 2X4
Ambassador, yes I have already suggested to her that we bypass the whole dohan thing but she is new to Japan (6 months) and for the first year most of the Filipina girls are essentially indentured servants to the mama that brough them over. This is what I am being told by her so I don't know 100% if this is true or not. Seems to be true as I know that the Fillipinas who have been here longer are allowed to do whatever they want after around 1 or 2 am. My girl has to work unitl 4 am and is then chaperoned (sp?) home with mama san and the rest of the new girls.
Sojourn, I am decent looking and have a good rapport with the ladies. I only go out on slow days. She has brought up the topic of marrying me several times, jokingly of course but one of those half jokes. I have played along with the jokes and have asked her about where will will go on our honeymoon, etc. Also I get along really well with her and genuinely like her and I think the feeling is mutual. She used to work in the Phillipines at a call center for a US company so she can speak English well and seems to like American men much more than Japanese men.
15K...... expensive right! That's the only thing holding me back. And just for clarification the dohan doesn't cost 15K but I am obliged to spend that much at the club when we get back from the dohan. So I guess technically the dohan is free but I am on the hook for 15K at the club. From my understanding of dohan the girl is given around 4000 yen kickback from the dohan money.
I am working the hostess and the nampa angles simultaneously. Trying to figure out which one is better for me. I live in Nagoya and work about 70 hours a week so don't have a lot of time to play the nampa game.
Again, thanks for the feedback guys. I'll be sure to give a full report after I pull the trigger and go out on the dohan.
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Originally Posted by Soujourn
Hi 2x4 -- I basically agree with Ambassador. Don't expect homebase on the first dohan - unless maybe you got her on a slow day, you're very attractive and the type of guy she's into, etc,etc... Even then, you have to play these out awhile. But essentially its understood that dohan eventually implies sex.
As for the 15k -- hmm for fillipina club? Seems quite expensive! I have had dohan for no payment with them -- why? Because dohan usually means you agree to visit the club afterwards and spend your money there! DOH! [sic]