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On 15th November, Ortos wrote a section entitled “Reflecting on: Moechtest Du Gesaellshaft? ("Would you like some company?")”

He described his encounter with Sandra, the blond from Poland who is mid 20s. This thread about assessing the girls before a session is oh so very interesting, but I was particularly interested in what he said about Sandra, as I myself was there on Saturday and spent some time talking to her.

Interestingly I too did not have a session with her as our chat started very well, but there was something which didn’t add up, so I pulled out. It could have been the sob story she gave me about being divorced, it could have been how she didn’t like the management at Oase or it could have been her pessimism about other fkk clubs. But the point is that my initial enthusiasm for her ebbed away after talking to her for 5 or 10 minutes.

For those who think that I should not have taken up her time for that long, well, we were having dinner together and the first thing I said to her when she sat down was that I was waiting for someone else, but obviously I had her in mind as a possibility.

Then, when she had finished eating, she asked me in plain German “Do you want sex”, I said “Nein” and with that she went off in a huff. I later discussed her with Julie, my favourite, tall Polish girl. Julie said that she was not Polish, but Ukrainian. It certainly explained why she spoke Russian, but if a girl is going to lie about things like that, what is she going to be like in the sack? Sandra also told me that she was 32, but now I don’t even know that.

Ortos, I think I can remember seeing someone lying down on one of those sofas last Saturday. I just wish that us forum members could have some kind of way of recognising each other so that we can meet up and compare notes. Maybe other members have some ideas about how to do this?

King Wenslas

King Wenslas:

What a small world, eh? Well, I agree entirely with the last sentence of your post. But what can one do? You are not the first board member here to overlap with me at an FKK and we didn't know it, either of us. In fact it happened twice, on two separate occassions, when both Shiatsu and I were at FFKW on the same day/night, once last year and just recently last week.

I'd love to hear more about your tall Polish friend, Julie. I saw one or two tall blonde girls that I was interested in, but never got around to pursuing in a proper manner.

Interesting in the extreme to compare your experience with Sandra and mine. Personally, I would not be too upset by Sandra's (or any other girl's) attempt to mislead me about her origin. For whatever reason, she decided it was better to not reveal her true country of origin. I do the same thing, often. Fair enough, given the superficial nature of initial encounters on a couch or dining stool at an FKK. Let's not forget there had just been a raid in which they seemed to have targeted mainly girls from non-EC countries. Ukraine is a dodgy country to be from as far as immigration issues go in Germany...So how the hell does she know you are not an undercover whatever...

Anyway, very interesting that we both got some dodgy vibes from her and aborted our intention to go session with her. Just shows that we are getting more refined and educated in our selection skills...

Ortos

[QUOTE=Kingwenslas]I just wish that us forum members could have some kind of way of recognising each other so that we can meet up and compare notes. Maybe other members have some ideas about how to do this?
King Wenslas[/QUOTE]

I've thought about this and the best I have come up with is wearing the towel backwards ;-)

Not much to go by though. Remember one time meeting up a member at Palace. Only thing we had going as of identification was the general look of our watches and brand of cigarettes. These are small things and I think I was starting to look like some kind of stalker, checking out guys watches and smokes. It worked though.

Chivaz

[QUOTE=Kingwenslas]...she was not Polish, but Ukrainian. It certainly explained why she spoke Russian, but if a girl is going to lie about things like that, what is she going to be like in the sack?[/QUOTE]

King,

I agree with most of what you said. But why the heck would you think that everything these girls are telling you is the truth? I EXPECT them to lie, about small things and big things. Do you tell them that you are married and have three kids (just an example :)), where you live, and how old you are? Or even what you real name is? Of course not!

The girls want to guard their privacy just as much, maybe even more, than we do.

So I don't give a shit what lies they tell me. And I don't think that it has anything to do how they are "in the sack".

... of course if they tell me that I have the hardest, longest, best-looking dick that they have ever tasted, and how I made them come at least ten times, and that the session we just had was the best sex ever for them, then I know that they are telling the truth. ;)

euro

Originally Posted by Kingwenslas
I just wish that us forum members could have some kind of way of recognising each other so that we can meet up and compare notes. Maybe other members have some ideas about how to do this?
King Wenslas

I'm thinkin' maybe pink bunny slippers.

What? No?

I'll be there in FKK land in a couple of weeks. I've got a 50 euro session donation for the first ISG member I see walking around in pink bunny slippers.

whitey2

[QUOTE=whitey2]
I've got a 50 euro session donation for the first ISG member I see walking around in pink bunny slippers.
whitey2[/QUOTE]

I have a standing offer of 100e to the guy that climbs the wall at Oase and tears down the fucking strobe light (or whatever it is called). Think I made the offer on another board, but will extend it to this one as I am hoping to hear news of someone climbing walls at Oase wearing nothing but pink bunny slippers and ripping that damn thing off the wall, earning 150e total. That would be a sight worth every penny.

On a different subject: Reports from the Artemis club in Berlin are not exactly pouring in. Any of you have recent info?

Chivaz

Hi all you mongerers,
Interesting thread here. Heck, when I'm in an FKK, I find it very difficult NOT to smile. I smile at everyone, and I make eye contact too. Sometimes I feel goofy doing so. I have been known to avert my gaze from girls who have made a pest of themselves to me in the past or are persistent, but usually I keep smiling at everyone and I keep moving when I'm not interested in a girl while on the prowl. It's fun to flirt, those hallway hugs and kissses and come-ons can be fun. But on the couch, sometimes I'm a softy and sometimes end up sessioning with a girl when I really don't want to and that I need to work on. Right Ortos?

But all this "eyes are the window to the soul" stuff is getting a bit analytical for my taste. I'm there to have fun and most of that is finding a girl who for me is a hottie and then seeing if I can turn her from a SW to a fuck buddie. First I see the physical appearance and I take it from there. Get close to her, chat a bit, caresses lead to kisses, That's when I see the twinkle in her eyes, when we realize we are comfortable together, can spend a good portion of a session in relaxed tender pillow talk, share small portions of our lives and personalities. I'm always honest with a girl I like and it feels good.

beffen

Beffen - Just a question of keeping a range of views and approaches into the forum. Any one post is only a small part of the possible ways of looking at things. I appreciate it may not be everybody's style, and that what I write may be a very minority approach - however as other people had already mentioned it I thought I would follow it up

I thought it was all a bit over-romantic rather than analytical. Analytical is dissecting a SP by the size of tits etc

Not all posts will be to everybody's tastes - personally there are some kinds of posts which are not in keeping with how I look at things but I would not want to comment. I like to keep discretion. For example, I do not post what SPs have said about isg members - when the SP says the isg member was horrible but the member has posted the SP liked him (and I am NOT talking about Cordelia who keeps total confidence about her clients and never tells me anything, quite rightly).

I think you have slightly misunderstood the posts - what I and others wrote about is how to get the best fun. And how to get the best connection - which is of course exactly what you are saying as well at the end of your second paragraph (I think)

So - here's something to discuss next time we meet! Look forward to saying hi again at some stage. In the meantime I promise no more "souls" for the time being!

Ortos - ok - we are set up for out third attempt. It's easier to get a girl to a room than meet a fellow isg member. When I first tried to find Beffen I approached several men wrongly and started getting worried that they thought I was trying somehting weird - after all, try this on a stranger "Are you Beffen?" (especially as I now know it's Dutch meaning)

Hi Shiatsu,
Didn't mean to demean or otherwise negate anyones approach, as you know I am also looking for that connection with a nice girl. And you know how I feel about you and your approach and sensibilities regarding the FKK game, utmost respect. Obviously your "romantic" method is just as much fun. And I too have had sessions lasting 1 hour with maybe 20 minutes of sex and 40 minutes of relax and "getting to know you" time.

Looking forward to the next meeting- are you around Dec 7,8,9,10?

beffen

To Euro, Ortos, Whitey2

Thanks for your stimulating replies. OK, now I accept that it’s alright for a girl to lie to about a few things. This forum is fantastic for clarifying these issues.

And yep, we really need to work out some code or something to help identify other forum members when we are “out in the field”. How about wearing a baseball cap? I’ll keep thinking about it.

Hi Beffen - it looks like that weekend is going to be an unofficial isg party,. I will be at FKK World from 9th to the 12th inclusive and I know two other members who are planning to be there.

I'll be at the normal hotel most of the time - will you also be there? Although from experience our hours seem to be very different. I never got used to sleeping past 8.00am

So I guess it's an open invitation to anybody else to join us. I'm hoping this time to spot the very elusive Ortos

Look forward to seeing you. In the meantime I'm eating well to prepare for my four days of FKK World soup kitchen rations!

[QUOTE=Kingwenslas] I just wish that us forum members could have some kind of way of recognising each other so that we can meet up and compare notes. Maybe other members have some ideas about how to do this?

King Wenslas[/QUOTE]

This is an interesting topic. I often wonder in FKK if other ISG members are also in the Club. It becomes an important topic, as we are 8 ISG members to meet us at FKK World on December 1st. It's an open invitation, so may be others will join us. Some have met each other allready, some not. But if one member is missing that is supposed to point others out, it could become an issue to find us.

The recognising sign must be discrete. Of course nobody wants to wear a button with:"Hi, I'm an ISG member", or a ridiculous colorfull item.

In FKK, we are supposed to have only sandals, a towel, the locker key and the wrist band. Some have personal items like watch, jewels and cigaretttes or cigars. Cigarettes or cigars are not convenient to keep, as the towels have no pockets. Hard to chose a specific type of watch or jewel that everybody should wear. Hard to wear on a specific way the towel, the sandals or even the watch or jewels.

What if we wear the locker key on a specific way: instead of around the wrist, we could attach it through the the wrist band or watch (and not the wrist itself) in a way that wristband (or watch) and locker key band make an 8. It is also a more convenient way to open the locker as there is no need to untigh the locker key from the arm to use it. I don't know if what I'm trying to explain is clear for everybody.

It's an easy sign, as we don't need to bring specific item with us, it is discrete and convenient, unusual enough to be a recognising sign but still anyone can always deny it is a ISG recognizing sign if he needs to. I'm looking forward your reaction or any other suggestion.

[QUOTE=Routard]What if we wear the locker key on a specific way: instead of around the wrist, we could attach it through the the wrist band or watch (and not the wrist itself) in a way that wristband (or watch) and locker key band make an 8.[/QUOTE]
I like it! Will do it.

See you on Dec. 1 at FKKW
euro

Hope this helps - as the day you are all there is likely to be a quiet day it is likely that you will find each other easily enough - just keep an ear out for men using English. Even if they are not isg members they are likley to be interested.

One thing I sometimes do is e-mail a photo of myself beforehand. This may not be an option for most people but could help

Sorry that I will be missing the party, will be arriving next week and will be roaming the NRW and FRA areas all by myself :-(...LOL ! Actually have quite an itinerary of fun,, starting in Palace on the 23rd and heading north to Amsterdam for some "relaxation" before driving south to Bruggen for some "Goldentimes" with 3 Ignatzmice fellows.. Then will be off in search of more fun around PHG, possibly Samya,, and then on to World and Palace for the weekend of 25th-28th. Anyone in town that weekend feel free to PM me
so we can arrange our hairstyles, necklaces, or wristbands to help us locate each other. Generally speaking, when I hear someone speaking english its a pretty good chance that they are a ISG member. I often wonder if the girls
characterize us as a group of "Sportfuckers" instead of regular customers? Kind of the same theory as a bunch of guys meeting in some tropical destination all wearing Sportfishing or Golf attire,, doing the weekend warrior act! I think from previos experiences that some of the girls work harder to please us knowing that their stock will rise after good reports.. I vividly recall Shiatsu and Isseu introducing me to Andrea (CZ) during my first trip to World a few years back. At the time, I was not a big fan of taking seconds but she grabbed my hand,led me into the Kino,,,the rest is history!... Ah,, how I would love to rekindle that moment again!!

Hope to post some similar experiences next week while chillin out at the Internet station at the Monopol.

Gutten tag herr ISG'rs