Moscow

[QUOTE=Ricardo Cabro]Doc, Nothing quite so strange as life. Although I speak very little Russian BP1 insists that I am more Russian than many Russians. Perhaps my genuine empathy struck a chord with the Captain.

the appartment really worked out well - excellent position, comfortable and approx half the price of a Marriott - no rewards points tho'.

The militsia thing was just bad luck. Apart from a couple of (polite) document checks in Red Square I've never been pulled over before. It was probably just my turn on the law of averages.

The registration system changed in January and my guess is that the militsia know this and will play on the grey area created - especially with foreign businessmen leaving drinking establishments with hired company.

Did I pay Nadya up front? Never, ever done that. If a girl asks for pre-payment in CF I walk away.[/QUOTE]


Good for you not paying up front. Never do it either.

As for yappin' with the capt'n, that's pretty cool. You read my story about how I ended up outside the militsia station with the Chechen girl? Ah... Moscow... :)

[QUOTE=CharlieH]Doc, when did the law change regarding registration?

If one does not get a stamp at the airport, how do the police know when he arrived? If hotels no longer give registration card, where does one need to go to get registered? How does the new law affect visitors that stay at apartments? And some crappy hotels don't even have a room card. There is only a key and you leave it at the front desk.[/QUOTE]

As for registration, the law changed a couple of months back and as with many things in Russia, nobody is quite sure about the exact law.

You do get your arrival card stamped coming in, so they can check when you arrived. You just don't get your registration stamped on the card anymore. When flying out sometimes they didn't even take my arrival card... so this seems to have lost almost all significance... but hold onto it anyway. You never know.

When in hotel, you get the hotel key card + the little booklet. That is supposedly enough. The hotel registers you... you just don't get a piece of paper saying so. So if the militia stops you just say that you are in Hotel So and So. If it's a cheap-o Russky hotel, then keep a receipt or something from the hotel.

People in apartments are supposed to have their landlord register them... but of course no landlord will do this for short-term visitors. It is indeed a grey area now and I don't know exactly how apartment-staying mongers should handle it. I am trying to find out and will inform you all as soon as I know.

[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]


As for registration, the law changed a couple of months back and as with many things in Russia, nobody is quite sure about the exact law.

You do get your arrival card stamped coming in, so they can check when you arrived. You just don't get your registration stamped on the card anymore. When flying out sometimes they didn't even take my arrival card... so this seems to have lost almost all significance... but hold onto it anyway. You never know.

People in apartments are supposed to have their landlord register them... but of course no landlord will do this for short-term visitors. It is indeed a grey area now and I don't know exactly how apartment-staying mongers should handle it. I am trying to find out and will inform you all as soon as I know.[/QUOTE]

Having just returned myself from an extended MRE, (Mongering Research Expedition), my registration experience was certainly better than last summer, but still ridiculously expensive. Last summer I completely fucked up the on the 72 hour deadline, but it was because I arrived on a Friday night and I waited until Tuesday to even go to the local government SIDA clinic to get jabbed with a hypodermic by a bitchy medical assistant for my HIV test. 2 days later I went back to get my dokumenti saying I'm not infected, and then proceeded to have my travel agent drag me down for 4 hours to the politzi station for fingerprints, mug shots, and a 5000 ruble payment.

At least this year, the HIV test is not required, so I got right over to the travel agent on Monday morning, but they're not gonna let me off easy this time either. They claimed that because my apartment was not previously registered with the police for renting out to foreigners, they would be required to register it for me, for an extra 3000 rubles.

On arrival, my immigration card WAS stamped, and the back of it WAS stamped again for registration by the politzi, and they did take it from me when I flew home going through immigration.

My question to Richard Cabro is about your passport. Did you have it on you when you were pulled over, because I never carry mine around, I just keep a copy with me with my visa. I don't even carry my registration with me, though I think next time I'll stop into some magazine and make a copy to keep with me. But after 16 different visits, I've yet to have any "fun" with the authorities, short of having 2 uniforms with AK-47's locked and loaded pounding on my flat door demanding I open up for 10 minutes, only to realize that since my landlady was too cheap to put a sticker with the flat number on the door, that they were knocking on the wrong flat, and they finally said, "Oh. Ti nyet Dvatsit Shest? Iz vinitsye, das vidanya," and then they proceeded upstairs and I changed my underwear.

Anyway, my only other politzi contact was initiated BY my taxi driver, who after driving around and not finding any working girls other than junkies, brought me to Vladimir, an off duty cop working security at the main hotel side entrance, who made a few calls on my behalf, to have a couple of car fulls of girls paraded for my choice of "bride for the night".

Now that's what I call "Serving the Public"!

There was another mistaken indirect "buzz" I got from the cops, and it WAS just last month.

I had been with an incredible dyevochka. Probably the most GFE experience I may have ever had, at least for the first two hours and forty-five minutes. I lit her passion on fire and turned up the heat to supernova, and everything was amazing until we found SOMETHING to fight about at the very end, and turned a magical night into a pretty upsetting ending. I even wondered if she might try to pull something on me later during my stay.

Of course the next morning around 11:30, as I was trudging back home from a run to the bazaar market with 2 arm fulls of groceries and coming through the back entrance, I see the politizi standing around at my front gate. We made a brief eye contact, and I scurried inside my podyest and upstairs. Then I look out my balcon window and see a second cop, with Uzi in tow, sniffing around my podyest.

That's when all the fun starts in your head. You start wondering did she really make up some story to fuck me over? Would they actually believe some dyev that works for an agency? Isn't this Russia and not the US, where a girl CAN'T just lie and they instantly believe her? Bla, bla bla...

Ok, stop panicking! Don't you remember stupid? Its fucking Hitler's birthday! The cops are looking for skinheads who have invaded the city from all the surrounding villages for their Nazi drinking binges! That's all the cops were looking for. Not me, duh! Love that adrenaline, though!

[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]Having just returned myself from an extended MRE, (Mongering Research Expedition), my registration experience was certainly better than last summer, but still ridiculously expensive. Last summer I completely fucked up the on the 72 hour deadline, but it was because I arrived on a Friday night and I waited until Tuesday to even go to the local government SIDA clinic to get jabbed with a hypodermic by a bitchy medical assistant for my HIV test. 2 days later I went back to get my dokumenti saying I'm not infected, and then proceeded to have my travel agent drag me down for 4 hours to the politzi station for fingerprints, mug shots, and a 5000 ruble payment.

At least this year, the HIV test is not required, so I got right over to the travel agent on Monday morning, but they're not gonna let me off easy this time either. They claimed that because my apartment was not previously registered with the police for renting out to foreigners, they would be required to register it for me, for an extra 3000 rubles.

On arrival, my immigration card WAS stamped, and the back of it WAS stamped again for registration by the politzi, and they did take it from me when I flew home going through immigration.

My question to Richard Cabro is about your passport. Did you have it on you when you were pulled over, because I never carry mine around, I just keep a copy with me with my visa. I don't even carry my registration with me, though I think next time I'll stop into some magazine and make a copy to keep with me. But after 16 different visits, I've yet to have any "fun" with the authorities, short of having 2 uniforms with AK-47's locked and loaded pounding on my flat door demanding I open up for 10 minutes, only to realize that since my landlady was too cheap to by a sticker with the flat number to put on the door, that they were pounding on the wrong flat, and they finally said, "Oh. Ti nyet Dvatsit Shest? Iz vinitsye, das vidanya," and then they proceeded upstairs and I changed my underwear.

Anyway, my only other politzi contact was initiated BY my taxi driver, who after driving around and not finding any working girls other than junkies, brought me to Vladimir, an off duty cop working security at the main hotel side entrance, who made a few calls on my behalf, to have a couple of car fulls of girls paraded for my choice of "bride for the night".

Now that's what I call "Serving the Public"![/QUOTE]

On ground I had a lot of problems too in the past here is what the chief of protocol of one of the biggest Russian companies said litteraly...

Past:

You have to register withion the third day of your arrival (it's not 72 hours, it's less!) excluding from the count Saturday, Sunday and all holidays (this on ground of the hotel I was didi not register foreigner (can you imagine...) So the company took care of it not even in the city, but they wanted the passport, in original, and the immigration card.

Now:

You have to resgister before 13.00 (I do not know if local time or Moscow time, like railways) of the day after your arrival. It' does not matter which day it is the former OVIR should be always open... Militia too...
In my hotel they do it on spot (informatically) and you get your card stamped with the protocol number of registration (on the back side), and you gett all back with the room keys so it takes not more than 40 seconds.

Just my two cents...
IT

Bez, I was carrying my passport, I always do. However, I have two passports so I figure I can always lose one. That said, only one has my visa in it.

In Feb I stayed in a Marriott and they stamped my immigration card. In March the appartment rental company took my imigration card on the Thursday and returned it on the Monday with a stamp. My business partner said he could make the same stamp for $10 less - its not as impressive as the old visa reg stamp.

When I was stopped I had my passport and retained boarding card stub to show when my flight had arrived. Apparently, the oldest trick in the book is for non registered people to say they only arrived yesterday. Your boarding card proves when you arrived. The militsia seemed unaware of the new system and ignored my explanation of the old 72 hour rule. The girl I was with had her papers in order so she got no hassle - tho' they pulled her from the cab first.

What really got me was the refusal to accept a small bribe, the refusal to accept a much bigger bribe, followed by several drinks together, the offer to fuck girls in the slammer and parting like old friends.

A roller coaster of a ride - but thats Moscow.

[QUOTE=It Travel]On ground I had a lot of problems too in the past here is what the chief of protocol of one of the biggest Russian companies said litteraly...

Past:

You have to register withion the third day of your arrival (it's not 72 hours, it's less!) excluding from the count Saturday, Sunday and all holidays (this on ground of the hotel I was didi not register foreigner (can you imagine...) So the company took care of it not even in the city, but they wanted the passport, in original, and the immigration card.

Now:

You have to resgister before 13.00 (I do not know if local time or Moscow time, like railways) of the day after your arrival. It' does not matter which day it is the former OVIR should be always open... Militia too...
In my hotel they do it on spot (informatically) and you get your card stamped with the protocol number of registration (on the back side), and you gett all back with the room keys so it takes not more than 40 seconds.

Just my two cents...
IT[/QUOTE]

And I spoke yesterday with another "expert" who told me you still have 72 hours, not including Saturday or Sunday or holidays or the day you arrive.... so in other words it's a clusterfuck galore as always with Russian law.

I honestly don't really even fucking care anymore. Sometimes I get registered, sometimes I don't... depends on length of stay. Most trips I don't even have time to get registered. I've always been able to talk my way out of it or get by with a minimal bribe not exceeding 500 rubles. Kind of dangerous I suppose, like BB sex... they don't call it Russian roulette for nothing.

Funny how priorities change... years ago I used to BB everything... now I am very careful... and won't go near a pro pussy without my jimmy cap on.

[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra] My question to Richard Cabro is about your passport. Did you have it on you when you were pulled over, because I never carry mine around, I just keep a copy with me with my visa. I don't even carry my registration with me, though I think next time I'll stop into some magazine and make a copy to keep with me. But after 16 different visits, I've yet to have any "fun" with the authorities, short of having 2 uniforms with AK-47's locked and loaded pounding on my flat door demanding I open up for 10 minutes, only to realize that since my landlady was too cheap to put a sticker with the flat number on the door, that they were knocking on the wrong flat, and they finally said, "Oh. Ti nyet Dvatsit Shest? Iz vinitsye, das vidanya," and then they proceeded upstairs and I changed my underwear.
Now that's what I call "Serving the Public"![/QUOTE]

Bez:

Moscow is pretty much the only place the militia is going to care about your registration anyway. In the boondocks the cops are just in it for the cool uniforms, the big hat and the sweet Lada ride.

Hi fellow mongers,

As I am in Moscow now quite freuqently I am wondering about this "Sponsor Thing" As far as I understand the Guy pays a monthly amount to a girl, to support her in studies or whatnot.

What kind of revard can one expect, is sex always in the game? What would be a reasonable amount? I don't want to offend any girls by offering too little/much (won't be offended by that one;.)) or by asking for something not normally in the "package"

Cheers

[QUOTE=Oecmr]Hi fellow mongers,

As I am in Moscow now quite freuqently I am wondering about this "Sponsor Thing" As far as I understand the Guy pays a monthly amount to a girl, to support her in studies or whatnot.

What kind of revard can one expect, is sex always in the game? What would be a reasonable amount? I don't want to offend any girls by offering too little/much (won't be offended by that one;.)) or by asking for something not normally in the "package"

Cheers[/QUOTE]A good site for that sort of thing is omen. Ru. Unfortunately it's not as cheap as it once was. Back in the day, you could sponsor a girl for 1, 000 bucks a month, and we're talkin' 5 years ago. Now they want 4 grand. I can't get a quote right now because I sit next to my (female) boss. Your best bet is to find a girl on camcontacts and make an offer. It could save you a few thousand.

I want to give you a guys an update on my efforts to apply your experiences to the US. Last night and tonight I went bar happing by myself. I walked up to women and taled to them and put arms around them and grabbed their asses and kiss them. Sometimes their boyrfiends were in the bathroom. So I said kiss me on the lips before he gets back. Tonight I took it to the next level and groped their tits with their consent. Okay I will keep working on this. I am just trying to save some money. I will probably go to Prague and fuck 20 girls again. Really want to fuck Russian chicks but am afraid to get STD. Go get em guys. I was really surprised that you could just walk up to women in a bar and talk to them and grope their asses. A few wiggled away but most seem to enjoy it. Yeah they are all hot and early 20s and blonde. I am middle age, short and ugly.

sorry for occupying valuable space on board with this help request but I need a centrally located, decent apartment to rent for 3 nights..

any help will be very much appreciated. apologies for not RFF.

thanks

Atreides

My company is sending me to Sakhalin Island on a temp position. I know its hell and gone east just above Japan, but anyone have any idea about action there. Some guys I talked to says its heaven as a lot of the workforce are Russian women. Anybody been there, any info on travel routes from Europe or North America. I RTFF but cannot find any mention of this paradise
Cap
PM me or post if others are interested

Guy #2

Why are you posting this on the Moscow board?

If you have never had Russian pussy you have missed out. Think of the best Czech experience you have had and multiply x 10.

Your groping exploits in the US are off topic and of no benefit to this board.

Please stay on topic.

Guido88

[QUOTE=Guido88]Guy #2

Why are you posting this on the Moscow board?

If you have never had Russian pussy you have missed out. Think of the best Czech experience you have had and multiply x 10.

Your groping exploits in the US are off topic and of no benefit to this board.

Please stay on topic.

Guido88[/QUOTE]

I have read many of Guy #2's "weird" posts in the other forums. I can't figure him out but it appears he is "not playing with a full deck". IMHO

Bez,

Very funny,

I only follow three boards Montreal, Prague and the RU boards. Unfortunately Guy #2 has chosen those same 3 to share his lack of knowledge and troll like mentality with.

After 2+ years his inane dribble does get a little tiring. Self-described RU expert yet has never made the trip.

The Montreal board was ready to create a national holiday after he left and went on to the RU boards. Unfortunately he has returned there as well.

Clearly the guy needs to get laid, you may be correct about latent tendencies.

Just my 2 cents

Guido88

Doc, Bez,

What's the new info about the registration?

I am planing to stay at my friend's apartment and register at travel agency(that I used several times).

Is this still possible or there are new regulations on registration procedures.

As usual I will be there for the weekend(approx. 38 hours)

Thnx.