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Hey Patty
I had been in the Phils 9 times before making my cherry trip to AC and also went there with a certain degree of apprehensiveness last month but curiosity got the best of me. From my hotel in Manila I took a taxi over to the Swagman Hotel, paid my 600 php for the bus and took a very comfy 2 hour ride to AC and Pacific Breeze Hotel which I had booked a day or two in advance. AC was nothing like I had envisioned, particularly from my experiences in Manila, which makes AC look like a safety zone.
Pacific Breeze had an in room safe large enough for my laptop but I left it out most of the time that I was gone. The hotel was a 3 minute walk from Fields and compared to some of the walks that I've taken in Manila, it was a walk in the park. Price was about $50. 00 a night. It was clean and the staff was very friendly and helpful. I found the general area to be considerably safer than nearly all places I have been to in metro Manila. If somebody, approaches you on the street, male or femele, don't speak with them and keep walking. Never, ever, ever take a girl off the street as that's a perfect opportunity for any number of set ups. Stay on the moderate side of drunkenness and keep a low profile. I have a beer in one place and a bottled water in the next place. That has been my general rule across the globe.
There are alot of guys on this board with tons of experience in AC, many who live there. I'm just giving my impressions of my cherry trip there. Looks like I'm going to have a good week next week at work. If so, I'm booking a trip for next month and will spend a few days in AC again.
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Safety in angeles
[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder; 1113966]Patty Boy,
I can't speak to the danger level in AC, as I have not had the opportunity to make it there yet myself. However, I think I can safely say that the danger is no greater there than anywhere else we mongers might travel. Just be smart about what you do while you are there. First off, read as much of the posts on this forum as you can, to get a better idea of what you are getting into. Perhaps one of the AC regulars would be willing to take you under his wing and show you around a bit. As for the laptop, try to find a hotel that has in room safes. But be aware, some of these are not big enough to fit a full size laptop inside of. If that is the case, bring along a cable lock for the laptop, or a locking suit case to put it in when you need to leave the room. Nothing is absolutely secure. If a thief wants to break into your room and steal your things badly enough, they will find a way to do so, no matter what precautions you take. This applies to anyplace you might travel to. AC does not have a corner on the theft business. I lock up everything of value wherever I travel.
HW[/QUOTE]I have lived in ac for about three years. It is relatively safe. Just as safe as any city and you do have to pay attention as anywhere.
I have had some people try to take money from me but usually its a Filipino guy trying to be friendly and I stop and talk instead of ignoring and then I realize before too late that its a con. Of course I took my changes because sometimes I am in the mood to talk to anyone even with the danger.
Mostly I vary my routine also and walk fast and just don't let anyone touch me or get behind me. Etc. Just like anywhere.
I do hear from friends and other sources that Pattaya can be just as dangerous.
One night two years ago I was very sleepy and on the my lap top in the restaurant of the orchid inn.
I go to my room and go to sleep.
I wake up and do not see my computer. I have no memory of what I did with it. I look everywhere.
As I approach the front desk to ask if they have seen my computer. The clerk calls me by name and says she has my computer.
The janitor found it and left it at the front desk for me. I did not remember at all where I had left it.
Of course I gave the guy a tip and I hope he was still happy that he was an honest man.
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Angeles
[QUOTE=Patty Boy; 1113957]Hi, I'm a newbie planning to make a trip out to Angeles City, but my biggest concern was that I heard that it could be higher crime and even a little dangerous if you're not careful. I've been to Pattaya several times and never once felt threatened. I am also generally non-confrontational. Again, I never had problems in Thailand, but I imagine that the PI is a different beast.
Also if you think I should just stick with Pattaya, let me know that as well. The main things attracting me to PI was the fact that the women there actually speak English and just for a change of scenery. But I'm not sure putting myself in danger, risk getting my things stolen is worth the risk if the risks are significantly higher than in Thailand. I hope you experts can give me some insight. Thanks! [/QUOTE]Yes stay in Pattaya. Hahahaha. More girls for me here in angeles.
Just joking.
When I first read and heard about angeles. I thought it would be the worse place in the country.
Three years later and I am still living there. Only two weeks now in hawaii.
Of course I go other places but angeles is as safe and. As dangerous as anywhere.
Theft is normal and you got to take precautions as anywhere.
Enjoy feel free to hook up with me for bar hop. I get back there first week of feburary but also travel many places.
Like cebu puerto galera, batangas, and subic.
Going alone to ac is no problem. Things happen and you got to be careful but I sure do like it. And especially the girls
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Fields vs Perimeter
[QUOTE=Freezone; 1112533]From what I understand and was told by another monger living there (while sitting with him at the Bunny burger joint having dinner) , The real "Fields " actually starts where the the police put up the barrier where cars and motor vehicles are forbidden= thus becoming a walking road only. But most oldtimers say that Fields starts about 50-100meters or so east of the jeepney station at checkpoint.
But regardless, as soon as you pass the 1st megabar, you are on "Fields".
FZ[/QUOTE]You are probably more accurate in geography, but many talk about Fields and Perimeter in comparison to pricing. In that regard, Fields begins around Insominia / dclub and runs all the way down to MacArthur Highway. In that section regular price local drinks will be 95 peso, BF's will be 1, 500 p and up, import drinks will also be more expensive. Going the other direction, Pony Tails is considered the start of Perimeter Road (although Pony Tails is a little higher in price than most Perimeter Bars) and Perimeter runs all the way up to Friendship. Pricing varies, but regular price local drinks average between 50 p to 65 p, BF between 1, 200 to 1, 400p and imported drinks are approx. 10p cheaper than Fields (on common imported drinks). As with Ponytails, there are exception bars offerring lower prices on Fields, and Perimeter bars offerring higher prices, such as Mirrors and some of the Korean bars. In between Insominia and Pony Tails, who cares, there are no bars to speak of.
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[QUOTE=Joh Kbay;1111745]First of all, thank you to all fellow mongers for giving so much information. It makes it so much easier for us to enjoy. I'm Filipino american and I don't speak or understand tagalog. I am planning a couple of days in AC but several of my friends told me that certain clubs won't let you in. Is that true? If so, which one so I can avoid and spend my money elsewhere. Any feedback is much appreciated.[/QUOTE]Won't sugar coat it for you. You will have to work on getting the same level of comfort other ethnic groups get. Without knowing you, the fact you have an American accent, won't mean much. Girls and staff will be reluctant to let you play or BF. You just are not going to be able to walk into any bar, like other people, and not have all eyes and suspicion on you. Its not discrimination, its daily rumours of police set ups and potential raids. There is one going around now involving the MBI. Now, once a particular bar and staff know you, you will get the same attention and welcome. Very few bars can deny a Filipino entrance, but they can make your stay uncomfortable and unproductive. Got to also remember foreigners have been involved in the police raids, being American in itself will not give comfort. On the other hand, you can get into many Filipino bars that most other foreigners can't, some of them are better than the Fields / Perimeter bars (they take more clothes off, the girls are "young").
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Patty boy
Just to summorize for you. Get the hotel to send a taxi for you. They will give you direction as to where to meet them at the airport.
Safety is not a factor as long as you don't do anything stupid. Anything off the street is a no no. Including girls, or otherwise. If they are on the street stay away. Of course buying a flower for your lady that night would be alright. You will be able to tell if it is safe. Don't talk to the locals unless very necessary. Your hotel should be able to help you with any questions. I have found it quite safe there.
Check if hotel has a safe in room. Ask them before you book. Ask is it will hold a computer. They will know. I suspect they all have a safe that fits them. My buddies have had computers and no problem at all.
I have been in Pattaya also and although different the end result is the same. You get some pussy. No nasty Pattaya shows to be seen in Angles. They do speak english and that means closer GFE usually.
Enjoy yourself, it is fun to be there.
You can PM me when yu are going to be there. Maybe can help further when I am there.
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[QUOTE=Mongrinastrlnd; 1113982]My ultimate pipe dream would be a room safe that had an internal electric socket.
Hmmm. I sense opportunity here.[/QUOTE]ABC is the only hotel that I've stayed at that has 2 power sockets inside the electronic in-room safe.
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[QUOTE=Patty Boy; 1113957]Hi, I'm a newbie planning to make a trip out to Angeles City, but my biggest concern was that I heard that it could be higher crime and even a little dangerous if you're not careful. I've been to Pattaya several times and never once felt threatened. I was wondering if it is safe at all to bring your laptop or whether this is not a good idea due to theft? I plan on working during the day and having fun at night.
! [/QUOTE]Since I've been to both Pattaya and AC, I'll give my opinion on this (Note: this is just MY personal belief and not to contradict any expat living in either places).
In general, Pattaya will be consider the safer of the 2 places. This is based on my own experiences of just wandering off anywhere at night. I've never had any problems in Pattaya no matter where I was walking (or riding) in the dark. However, the same can't be said about AC. There are many small streets and alleys I will not walk into and also told by locals not to.
Aside from getting the usual con games and pickpockets, the odds of getting mugged is also greater in AC than in Pattaya, but it is still relative as I believe the odds are also greater for being mugged in some parts of Detroit, or Newark NJ than in AC.
If you bring your laptop and it don't fit into your room safe (as mine didn't). Simply check it at the front desk for them to look after it when you are out. If they did a good job (like mine did) , I gave them a little tip upon final day departure from the hotel.
Cheers and beers,
FZ
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[QUOTE=Sky Ryder; 1113560]A week or so ago I was in AC for the first time.
There is much left to explore! [/QUOTE]Hey Skyryder,
I've read your post and although it was good, I was also confused. After all this time you finally manage to make it to AC but stayed just 1night?
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[QUOTE=X Man;1113359]Ha, ha, the guy I described certainly seemed ready to. I just chuckled and walked out. The Bunny Burger seemed very popular. I never did get a seat in that place.[/QUOTE]The place is popular with expats and mongers. Also the place is rather small so best to go during the off hours like when I visit to ensure a seat and faster service (meaning not having to wait too long for them to cook your order). If there are 6-8 orders before you (and that includes the line for takeout) it could take a while before they cook your meal.
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[quote=andy stevens;1112950]i once contracted chlamydia from a girl i picked up from la pasha. after returning back to the states, i began to have a burning sensation when [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord112][CodeWord112][/url]. this happened about a week after my return. i figured that my std came from the la pasha girl because i always use condoms but unfortunately my condom broke only with her. luckily, i bought some zithromax before returning home for just in case situations like the one i was in. i took two tablets (500mg per tablet) and a few days later my [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] of fire subsided. one side effect i had was abdominal pain. .[/quote]just to give everyone the correct info on the use of zithromax. you should not be taking it over several days.
the correct dose is 2, 000mg (or 4x500mg tabs) as a one time dose only for any std. using this correct dose will also kill most syphillis and gonneahea along with the chlym.
and yes, taking this stuff will give you the cramps along with diarrhea (for most) but like the old saying, you play, you got to pay.
only thing this won't kill are hiv or herpes as they are viruses and not bacteria.
also, please do not use zithromax unless you are positive you have the drips as any overuse by you will lead to bacterial immunity and when you do need it for real, will find that the drug will no longer work. i know this for a fact as some people will always take the drug after a monger vacation before returning home just in case they were infected, sort of like a "just in case scenario". then the real fun starts when the drug no longer works as you will need to check into a clinic and get shots for the cure--- happen to a few guys i've known in the past.
just a public service announcement for all you "active" members.
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ps: holy shit, just realize i made senior status. thanks jackson (and of course, all you helpful members on this wonderful board).
cheers and beers,
fz
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Att Patty Boy
Hello, fellow Mongers. I've been reading this forum for a while now and feel like I know some of you fairly well. *
I'm 40 years young and I'll be making another trip to Angeles City from Mid February till early March so if anyone is keen for a beer or two then drop me a line. *
I've seen Angeles change over the last few years during my previous visits but this will be my first trip over on my own due to the spur of the moment travel plans. *
I usually contact Swagmans Hotel In Manila for airport pickup then their 600p bus ride to Angeles which then also drops you off at your destined hotel at no extra cost. This trip however I'll be getting my hotel to do the airport transfer because my flight gets in too late for the last Swagmans Bus. Costs four times more but I'd rather be in Angeles city than Manila. *
I booked my stay including pickup with the hotel that someone mentioned below, it's got a great reputation and early booking is a must as I've found out my last two trips where they didn't have any rooms at all. I usually hire a scooter during my stay but since I'll be on Fields this time I'll probably just do the day hire instead of weekly. *
Also, Patty Boy. There is allot of great advice people have given you in the below threads so there's no point in repeating it all. The only thing I can add is treat the locals with respect, don't wear bling and try not bring attention to yourself while out in public. Also remember that when your in these bars, most of these girls have to stand there doing the (Angeles Shuffle Dance) day in day out listening to the same old boring music so once inside the bars, be yourself and show the girls how happy you are by plastering a great big smile on your face and giving then a great big wave.
Hello.
Anyways, if you or anyone else is up for a few beers and laughs drop me a line. *
Cheers.
Cherry2000.
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New venues
Guys,
I've been to AC more times than I can remember and this next time I have 7 weeks to spend there. I am pretty sure I have been in ever bar on Don Juico / Fields or Santos, and bar fined out of many of them. I absolutely love the 'routine' but I am going to need to try something a little different this time and would appreciate any input you may have. I'm not expecting the best experience of my life – safe and pleasurable would be fine. Here are a few venues I was considering.
Lower MacArthur places near the bridge or places along Orosa like Pea Eye or Pink Tonton. I stopped by on my last visit and looked inside the door. These look like KTV with a handful of ladies – one or two looked nice. How does it work? On site? Price?
Mini-bars along Mitchel (the rode that splits off of Fields and hits MacArthur Hwy). I picked up an off duty bar girl there once but wonder if anyone has had any interesting experiences there other than shattered ear drums.
Korean places at the west end of Don Juico like JJ, Di Ba, or Five Senses. It makes me laugh seeing Korean signs in front of a Filipino club. You think they are trying to send gringos a message? I know they are expensive – has anybody bar fined there and is it the same protocol as the places most of us visit.
KTV along north MacArthur like Diane or Club Fairway. I have never bar fined out of a KTV. What is the protocol? Are there rooms there? What do they charge?
Freelance areas akin to Manila Bay Café in Manila. I've picked up off duty girls in the isles of JJ's Supermarket and elsewhere but I'm thinking of something more like a dedicated location. I was wondering about the area in front of the Fields Plaza Complex but other locations would be interesting.
Casas – They must be there. Has anybody tried them in AC? They have to be cheap and creepy but I've done time on Santos.
Fish bowl akin to Thailand – if there was one in AC I am sure I would have found it but I just had to ask. They are always opening up something new.
Thanks
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[QUOTE=Freezone;1114293]The correct dose is 2, 000mg (or 4x500mg tabs) as a ONE TIME DOSE ONLY for any STD. Using this correct dose will also kill most Syphillis and Gonneahea along with the Chlym.[/QUOTE]Not according to the [url=http://www.cdc.gov/std/treatment/2010/STD-Treatment-2010-RR5912.pdf]CDC[/url]
They say 1000mg one-time. A lot of doctors say to take the third tablet of the Z-pack the following day though.
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[QUOTE=Freezone; 1114293]Just to give everyone the correct info on the use of Zithromax. You should not be taking it over several days.
The correct dose is 2, 000mg (or 4x500mg tabs) as a ONE TIME DOSE ONLY for any STD. Using this correct dose will also kill most Syphillis and Gonneahea along with the Chlym.
Only thing this won't kill are HIV or Herpes as they are viruses and not bacteria.
FZ[/QUOTE]This is just not correct. It will not kill Syphillis or Gonneria. The correct single dose is 1g. Read the CDC recommendations on treatments or go visit a doctor.