Bwana Dik guide (aka. The Bubba Boy Guide) Controversy / Fallout
[QUOTE=Nounce;2729437]You know those things are totally unrelated and it sounds more like you are your own slave, right? You also know if it takes even longer for you to visit Brazil, you will
become Bubba boy 2, right? ...[/QUOTE]
Nounce, I was trying to figure out what you meant and if it was even correctly contextualize according the initial dust-up between BMs and the circumstances surrounding the Bwana Dik guide (aka.The Bubba Boy Guide).
[u]Brief summary of my Version of events :[/u] (Others please feel free to provide their own version, if I've missed anything.)
For awhile now, VB1, has been decrying and stating the absurdity about BMs, that they shouldn't post information/contribute to the Brazil threads, if they haven't had [i]"boots-on-the-ground"[/i] in the last 2 years. This messaging was so toxic to many BMs, that it caused quite the "dust-up" (if you remember) and many BMs, including myself and The Cane, pushed back.
[b]Here are a couple of posts [/b], highlighting, around the time/days, one of these "dust-ups" occurred, w/r to the topic at hand. I think there was others, but they currently allude me. (Please PM/post if anyone know of other dates or threads).
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2654669]I've been in Rio for 100 weeks ... But I think everyone should know that you're basically a blogger about a subject in which your [b]actual boots on the ground knowledge is over 2 years old[/b]....[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2654343]Right, and that is not a put down? You're not even in Rio, like The Cane, [b]yet you post daily[/b]. It speaks for itself.[/QUOTE]
Then, The Cane, rightly so, called him out and pushed back.
This was in regards to his inconsistent, disconnected and hypocritical stance, on posting/contributing information, reporting or helping other BMs if the information or person had not had boots-on-the-ground in the last 2 years. [b]Yet all the while he was pushing and pimping a 10+ yr old document with 10+ yr old information. [/b]
Hence the contradiction and hypocracy, surrounding the Bwana Dik guide (aka. "The Bubba Boy Guide" the updated version(s) by Bubba Boy). So Cane, was simply pointing out, if you are going to criticize BMs who post and share information more than 2 years old (on Brazil), then DON'T BE A HYPOCRITE and pimp-out the 10+ yr old guide.
[QUOTE=Spidy;2655136] ... Just absurd and ridiculous to think, just because other BM/ISGers haven't been on the ground in 2, 3 or even 10 years, they shouldn't post, as if they don't have the right to post or have anything to contribute, is nonsensical.[/QUOTE]
I remember this because even I called out VB1, on this nonsense. Not sure what VB1 reasons were [i][b](he'll have to provide his version of events/reasons)[/b][/i], but his position on "what should be contributed", just didn't sit right with some of us, so we pushed back, saying [b]"we value all information", no matter the age.[/b]
There is no ISG regulations (that I know of) that disallows the posting of information, experiences, nostalgia, stories or news, more than 2 years old.
[b]For example:[/b] I just helped another BM with an "unwanted pregnancy" problem, with a story/experience that I had in 2005, that was relevant today. How is that NOT helpful to other BMs, even though I haven't had boots-on-the-ground in 2 years?
(LINK: [b]"Pregnant sugar baby in Rio. Part 3"[/b]: [URL] http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2192-Rio-de-Janeiro-Reports&p=2728983&viewfull=1#post2728983[/URL])
There are those of us, that post and report on our known information and/or experiences gained in Brazil from 1, 2, 5, 10, 20, or 30+ years ago. IMHO, it's ALL GOOD information/experiences, that is honestly shared, in the hopes that some BMs may find it helpful, despite said age of the information. Many of us just need to learn to take what we need and leave/ignore the rest.
Although, there are times, like in this case here, where "push back" is warranted.
Nounce, with that said, can you shed some light on what you meant by,[i][b]"You know those things are totally unrelated and it sounds more like you are your own slave, right? You also know if it takes even longer for you to visit Brazil, you will become Bubba boy 2, right?"[/b][/i] ???
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2727519]"Absorb what is useful. Reject what is useless. Add what is essentially your own." At BruceLeeLegacy. [/QUOTE] VB1, given your history on "bullying, telling others what to post, what to wear, were to monger, how to spend their own money...etc", this quote [i](and I must say a pretty good one at that), [/i] seems bit disingenuous. However, currently, I'm inclined to believe you and give the benefit of the doubt, w/r to posting "age old information".
Explanation Much Appreciated
[QUOTE=Nounce;2730369]In short,
I value BB's writing and I value The Cane's writing. The Cane dismisses BB's writing. I assume The Cane's values The Cane's writing.
When I compare The Cane to BB, it is a compliment from me like I stated in my post. I guess The Cane is not upset about my compliment. But there is a conflict based on The Cane's view, so what
do you think The Cane is upset with? ... [/QUOTE]Thanks you for your explanation, it was much appreciated!
I think The Cane, has answered your other questions, explained himself and has given you his history and "context" behind the Bwana Dik guide (aka. The Bubba Boy Guide) dust-up, amongst other things.