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Happy New Year to all pussy-mongers !!!
May god bless you with more pussies in the coming year.
Thanks
Just got back from vacation and hence have not been on the board for a while. I must say that I am chocked to find that Z is retiring!!!
I know I am going to take a lot of heat for this but I will be the bad one. Z come back please. I actually enjoyed your bad ass posts. How can one forget HHH, 3Fs, sperm tupperwear etc. Hysterical!! I use some of Z-lingo all the time now.
You might not like what Z says but he is needed. There need to be someone that throws some crazy stuff out there to create discussion. As for Z's knowledge - he knows what he is talking about prices etc. I know for a fact. Z recommended #176 at Saibaland and I tried with fantastic result.
Just my two cents!
[QUOTE]Originally posted by LarryOne
[i].....but I will be the bad one. Z come back please. I actually enjoyed your bad ass posts. How can one forget HHH, 3Fs, sperm tupperwear etc. Hysterical!! I use some of Z-lingo all the time now....[/i][/QUOTE]
Don't worry, he will be right back here with his new handle as he can not leave the board so easily. I see this board everyday with & like a newspapaer. & its not easy to leave this board. Do you know the three handles previous one.
Tur.ck the Dina.sor
Zel.da
& Ade.lZ
hope pretty soon he will be be here with his new handle & new style of writing. (actually I think he is already there)
I welcome to Samus Aran, a new member who has landed his ship in Pattaya & Pattaya section of this forum. Hey Samus write some more post.
heeeee heeee heee
well..i just got back to korea after 10 days in thailand..spent a few of those in pattaya and was pleasantly surprised..both by the quality of some of the girls, and the punters themsleves..was half expecting obese sunburnt octegenatians at every turn after reading about pattaya on the net.
on my first night i went ot he sabai room massage beside the big c..well what an experience, the overall quality was excellent, and took my time in choosing, eventually picked sa, a 22 year old, weel she was beeautiful with a great body..after the massage etc she wanted to meet up afterwards, also wanted to go to koh samet with me!
declined as was meeting friends on the island, but on my return i visited the sabai dee (i think) place accross the road form the big c..this place was a disappointment, the girls werent nearly as attractive, and eventually i chose one of the few half decent ones, got the bath and massage but decided not to waste my wad on her so declined the extras,,she wanted to meet up in dice disco afterwards and gave me here cllephone...again didnt bother as wanted to try tonys disco...well some really sexy women there..seems to be more like a regualar nite club in that looks, age, fashion sense seem to play more of a part here then in other parts of pattaya...got a few fondles and propositions but waited til near the end, presumed i had missed the boat, but a girl came over and said her friend wanted to say hello...well her friend was georgeous, and didnt look like a typical pattaya girl, turned out she was just visiting her friend for the night..well we hit it off, we went to the mr p disco(where pills and coke were very much in eveidence) and she stayed the night with me..just to point out expenditure on drinks was 50-50, she seemed to be trying to prove she was not a working girl..i ended up staying in her apartment in bangkok as she showed me the city over the weekend, again expenditure was maybe 60-40 to me...
she showed me photos of here winning her university beauty pageant and she truly was beautiful...maybe i am younger then the average guys that go to pattaya(24), but i would advise people to go to the freelance discos early and there seems to be a few girls there that arent working but just like fucking....
or else got late to the sabai room and u should be able to get the girl to meet u after for an all nighter..the girls there were stunning, far better than the average beer bar/go go bar girl
first time to thailand and i am definitely hooked, beats the crap in korea hands down
hey guys,
here is some informations about pattaya
yesterday while wandering at walking street, stepped up to a new place "polo entertainment". this is not a gogo bar but i can say it is a show bar. the shows of about 5 minute each by a group of 3-4 girls or solo continues with diffrent songs or items. some time total nude show. i like this place even better than my most favoirate super baby. and i shall tell you the secret. they called me on stage to sit on a chair around which 2 total nude girls were dancing. a new place to enjoy.
second place i saw yesterday was "casa massage parlour". i thought it is a new place but the girl told me "laai [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] laiyo" (it is from many years) surprised i used to cross this road every week in the last 4-5 years. placewise nothing new but girls are good. particularly 666 a great body.
bye
Does anyone know of any other "totally nude" dancing in Pattaya, or at what time where. I do like that. Thanks.
Re Polo :
It is true that the show is rather well choregraphed, but :
1) You cannot bar-fine any of the show girls, they are paid by their boss to keep the show going on the whole evening.
2) The cuties who wait bare breat on the side are for take away, but I spoke to all of them, no one does BJ.
So Polo is OK to enjoy the show (always the same one) but not for f...k.
Yaah Erik, Polo is for enjoying the night, not to get a girl. Many time people are sitting in gogos to pass time & drinking. For them Polo is better option.
To get the girl, now a days which bar is having best girls. Any one can put a light on this???
[QUOTE]Originally posted by khun
[i]TOURISM
Arrivals set to exceed projection
Stepped-up PR campaign effective
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Well,
About three weeks back I had posted that I had been told things were slow this high season in Thailand. I have now been to Bangkok and saw fro myself, the number of tourist in the sex areas is way down. And now I am in Pattaya and it is not like a normal high season, walked into five hotels today all had rooms for rent. Walking street has the same number of people on it at night as in Oct/Nov. Spoke to a couple of bar owners and all said the same thing business is down. But still more than enough girls to keep everone happy. If you have some free time this is the time to come, high season without the normal crowds.
Because of the lack of buisness prices have seemed to stay about the same or gone down a little. Unlike a normal high season when the prices go way up. You can still get a first rate A-level girl from a GO GO Bar for 1000 baht short and 1500 baht long. Yes some will ask for more but they are taking what they can get. Talked to three owners of GO Go bars, and they all say the same thing business is way down the clubs are less than half full and the really great girls are still in the clubs at 10, 11, 12 o'clock when in the pasted they were bar fined in high season within the first hour. Also spoke with a ex-pat I know who has a beer bar on soi 7. He has the bar as a toy but he says he is happy just to have 3 of his 5 girls here started with 2 years ago. The bar has a total of 10 girls and each girl is doing 7-9 bar fines a month.
I am not telling any one to stay away, in fact I'm saying come now it is the best high season I have seen, lots of girls, but not big crowds. The beer bar girls are still happy 500 baht short and 1000 long with 200 baht bar fines. You maybe can pay less but I don't try because these prices are fair and I am here having fun not counting pennies. A lot of street girls working beach road, but be cafeful late at night because more lady boys working this area than normal.
And for those guys on the board who think the good looking girls are only in Bangkok, sorry to tell you just as many are here now too.
Hi there... Looking for someone to meet in pattaya to get some girls with... Anyone there in march? I'm going by my own and I would prefer sharing... the fun! my email : ricion@romandie.com
Take care!
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Samus Aran
[i]Sexreview:
Pussy is pussy! No matter where you go in Thailand there is always an abundance of beaver available. People should not come into this website and give false information about pussy being more special in one place over another. That is plain bullshit!
I'm with you!
Samus Aran [/i][/QUOTE]
I agree that the same type of girls can be found in both Bangkok and Pattaya, I just find Pattaya to be a bettter overall place to be at. What I think really happens on the board is a guy who likes Bangkok lets say feels he must make Bangkok better than lets say Pattaya, so he starts to post great things about Bangkok and bad things about Pattaya, and then the cat fights begin on the board. What I don't think is right is people who comment on places that they have never been too. Right now I have a friend who is in Bangkok on his 13 th yearly trip, he has never been to Pattaya. That I think that is sad, people fly half way around the world and will not go the extra couple of hours. Me as I have said before I will spend a little time in Bangkok but most of my time is in Pattaya. And things are really hot here now, last night Saturday Walking Street was packed with people but still lots of great girls to go around. Well time to sign off and hit Beach Road.
Point well taken, sexreview, and I agree with SA that pussy is available anywhere and everywhere in LOS. Still, if people can articulate why they prefer this place to that place it's something useful for other travellers. I've spent time in Pattaya (including a couple of days this last trip) and it's simply not my preferred cup of tea, as I find it a bit too frantic and with too many tourists of the kind I'm generally trying to escape. There's no question that it's a happy hunting ground, (and I was immensely happy with those ladies I chose) and has probably more available women per square inch that just about anywhere else, but it's also got a fair amount of grime, a filthy ocean, underwhelming beaches, strip malls and fast-food places galore, etc.
I look at it like any kind of shopping: me, I generally though not exclusively prefer funky little restaurants and shops, or local places to big chains. Other people prefer to get to the biggest mall available so they can easily find what they want. Pattaya is the big mall to Bangkok's series of smaller malls to other places' small and funky places (with exceptions hither and yon, of course.) Mostly the same stuff is available in all those places; what matters are issues of taste and fashion. SA's comments on where you want to screw are exactly on point -- you can do it anywhere, so information about what's around, what the ambience is, etc., is highly useful.
My 2 cents worth on the subject. Personally, I don't like Bangkok. It's just a big dirty, nasty, smelly city. Pattaya is a bit more to my taste but I would prefer a place that is more relaxed. If Chiang Mai had more women to choose from it would be my choice.
Was in Pattaya 2 times... In bangkok just the first time because I thought it would be fun! But since I was very "newbye" I had only bad luck in Bangkok, the action, as I understood, was just in 2 streets, and prices were almost double as Pattaya, though the choice was less... I suppose I am completely poor in experience in that huge city... But I certainly was also in Pattaya the first time... Nevertheless it was obvious there that almost every single girl was there for.... FUN!
gentlemen,
here’s my report on two recent trips to pattaya. many times, the question is often asked on the best way to get to pattaya. i think it mostly depends on your flight’s arrival time. if you’ve been flying all day and night and arrive after 8pm, i’d recommend getting a room in bangkok (reserve it in advance for the best rates), find yourself a hhhh (hot hired humping ho), hump away short time or long time (up to you!), and head down to pattaya the next day. if you don’t mind spending around 1000 baht, hire a cab, but negotiate the price up front, as many others on the board have recommended. personally, the cab drivers drive too recklessly for me and may not be clear on exactly where you want to end up in pattaya, so i think the minibus (at about 350 baht) is probably a better option. not only does it cost less, but they’ll also give you the same door-to-door service as a taxi. if you want to maximize your available funds for the hhhh’s, taking the air-conditioned bus is the best option. if you decide to take the air-conditioned bus, here are some suggestions.
take the skytrain station to the ekkamai (# e7) station. before you head down the stairs, take a peek over the side of the station platform, and you will see the bus station for air-conditioned buses. go to the far right hand side of the station, and you'll see a ticket window with a sign posted for pattaya. pay your 90 baht, and take note of your assigned seat number; people seem to want to sit in their assigned seats. after you arrive at the pattaya bus station, go to any of the baht buses (guaranteed to be waiting for arriving buses) and give the name of your hotel to any of the gentlemen waiting by the baht buses. after you get off the bus (they may not drop you off immediately in front of your hotel, but they will point the way), pay your 20 baht.
cost: skytrain 20-50 baht
bus ride 90 baht
baht bus 20 baht
total =130-160 baht (what a deal!)
buses leave from the ekkamai station every half hour during the day; it takes about two hours to get there.
before you leave the bangkok airport (upon arrival), if you plan to spend any time at all in bangkok go to the information desk on the arrivals level and pick up a free city map. this map, which should be available in english, provides a lot of city/landmark detail and includes the routes/stations covered by the skytrain. if you’re traveling to downtown bangkok, don’t bother with the taxi stand on the arrivals level of the bangkok airport; i’ve been charged as much as 350 baht (including tolls), and i know someone who was charged 1100 baht round trip, or 550 each way. instead, go to the departure level (upstairs level), hail down a cab that just delivered someone to the airport, and make sure the driver understands that the meter should be used for the drive. if you arrive late at night, you can elect to avoid paying the 70 baht expressway toll by asking the driver to take the regular streets (under the elevated expressway), and it won’t take you much longer to reach downtown. if you’re arriving any other time, take the expressway, as bangkok traffic ranks among the busiest in the world. using the surface streets, the base fare should be around 140-160 baht.
okay, so now you’re in pattaya. where do you stay? i visited both flipper hotels on soi 7 and soi 8 and checked out the rooms. the rooms at the flipper hotel on soi 8 seemed nicer to me, and you’re right in the middle of the action. but if you don’t like the noise, maybe the flipper hotel on soi 7 is a better choice for you. i stayed at the eastiny place hotel…..note that there are two hotels with the name eastiny on soi 8. the one nearest to 2nd road (eastiny place) has the best rooms and is the newest. all of these hotels are girl friendly (i confirmed this with the receptionists) and offer rooms for 700-800 baht per night. make sure you confirm that they’ll include breakfast. one two separate occasions, eastiny place told me that my rate did not include breakfast. this required me to whip out my (email) confirmation and show them that i was quoted 750 baht per night including breakfast. on my second visit to this hotel, they tried to pull the same crap and copped a bit of an attitude about it. i had my email confirmation handy again, and that was that. the food at the eastiny place’s restaurant is fairly good and the service there is very good. they have a couple of nice-looking and helpful waitresses working there (dinner only). one night, one of the waitresses was a bit flirty; she seasoned my pad thai like the locals prefer and began spoon (well, actually it was a fork) feeding me my meal. i wouldn’t have minded getting a piece of her but i had other plans, like “fcuking” and not dating. next time, i’m going to try staying at the flipper hotel on soi 8. oh, did i mention that both flipper hotels have rooftop swimming pools?!! i have also stayed at the sabai inn on soi 2. this is also a good choice. the service is good, rooms are about 800 baht (or less) per night including breakfast, and girls are always welcomed. i like that the hotel reception always asks for the girl’s identification card (for your safety). the hotel’s manager is mr. aan (pronounced like “on”), a young man who has always made sure that i had a quiet room and a good time at his hotel. the bad part about the sabai inn is that they don’t have a swimming pool, but their sister hotel (immediately across the street) the sabai lodge does. i think the rooms are slightly better at the sabai inn, and i also like the fact that no one (like a jealous tg), can get close to your room without the hotel reception knowing about it; some of the rooms at the sabai lodge have “exterior” room access.
if you need to pick up some souvenirs (like cheap polo shirts or watches), try the mike shopping center or royal garden plaza shopping center. these are both toward soi 13 and have entrances on beach road and 2nd road. if you want to save some money on eyeglasses (ok, i have four eyes, but i’m no nerd), try the optical shop on the first floor at the royal garden plaza shopping center, located behind the escalators near the entrance on the 2nd road side. i paid $75 per pair of glasses, including lenses (with scratch resistant and anti-reflective coatings) and frames (very modern designs); they are willing to negotiate here. i brought my own prescription with me from home, so i didn’t need the free eye exam that they offered. the royal garden plaza shopping center has all the fast food restaurants you’ll ever need, including mcdonalds, burger king, kfc, and a few others. they also have a good food court on the top floor. the vendors at the food court only take pre-paid meal cards, which can be purchased at the food court’s entrance. 100 baht should be enough for a hearty meal, including your soft drink. this shopping center also has a cinema on the 2nd floor; if you decide to take in a movie, you won’t believe how inexpensive it is. two admissions, two drinks, and a large popcorn should set you back no more than $6.00. atm’s are located inside this shopping center and also at the mike shopping center (on the beach road side, outside the shopping center building). if you stay near soi 2, the big c shopping center is a good place to pick up food, trinkets, and trash. big c has a good cinema and a number of decent restaurants to get a cheap meal. if you want to relax and stay away from the beer bars for a few hours, hang out at the big c after 8 o’clock. listen to either of the two outdoor bands, have a beer, and give your willie a chance to rest/recover from all the “boom boom” you’ll be getting in pattaya.
now, let’s talk about the reason why anyone would really come to pattaya. there are those esteemed gentlemen on this board who will tell you that pattaya isn’t worth a visit. however, these same gentlemen seem to have a lot of current information on pattaya, which leads me to believe that they haven’t completely abandoned this place. while there may be other (perhaps better, but that’s an individual value judgment) places to visit, a guy can have a great time in bangkok and pattaya, especially if you’re like those of us who can only slip away to los for a few weeks at a time. there may be more stunning girls in bangkok, but they’re more expensive and bring a lot of attitude to the table (or uh, bedroom). it seems to me that the big city girls (maybe as in any other big city) aren’t as accommodating. if you are the kind of guy who strictly follows z’s 3f approach, then bangkok provides a lot of great choices. if you like to occasionally go long time or shag the same bird more than once, then pattaya could be a better choice for you. to minimize any problems, always negotiate your deal up front with your hhhh; if she won’t do what you want, as long as you want, or as many times as you want, move on to one of the thousands of other thai papayas there for your pleasure. if you choose to deviate from the 3f’s, make sure you don’t succumb to the charms of these girls! they’ve perfected the art of catering to men; sure some of them may simply be generous with their time and effort, while (most?) others expect something in return. let me tell you a little story about something that happened to me while i was in pattaya.
i selected a little cutie named mai one night. she had this hot librarian look, which sometimes gets me going. anyway, we took our obligatory shower before getting on the job, and she tells me that she might receive a couple of phone calls that she would need to take. we had all night together, and so i didn’t care. she tells me that she’s got an irishman and a swede on the hook, who send her money on a regular basis. the irishman called first. she told him that she was with a friend and smiled at me. i was already massaging her tits when the call came in, and i was in no mood to stop so i didn’t. she was giving him answers that you might read in private dancer…..i couldn’t believe it. it got so corny that i started feeding her lines, which she delivered to her irish “boyfriend”. at this point, i started to caress her thighs and stroke her papaya. she opened up her legs, and not wanting to decline her invitation to insert my fingers inside her, i did so. all this happened while she was talking with this sucker. the swede called in the middle of the conversation with the irishman, and mai told him that she’d call him back in a few minutes. after she finished her first phone call, she said, “why are people so stupid?” i couldn’t help but agree with her. she calls back the swede, and starts speaking swedish! mai told me that she learned swedish when she went to visit sucker #2 for a few months. after this call, she expressed her clear impatience for farang stupidity. not more than a few minutes after the second phone call was finished, i strapped on a jolly and got down to business. the next day, i took mai again, because she was so good in the sack. the next day, she whips out a bank (sent via western union) receipt, which shows that the irishman had wired her approximately $200.00. she asked me if i could tell her what some of the words meant on the receipt. bottom line guys…..don’t be a sucker! if you let yourself fall into this trap, you probably deserve it, especially after reading all the warnings posted on this website. have fun, treat the girls well, pay them fairly (but don’t overpay), but take care not to fall for a hooker!
if you’re the type of guy who could even consider falling for one of these bar girls, i strongly urge you to stay close to z’s 3f rule. mr. adlez’s advice is particularly valuable for you type of guys. i’m not saying that anyone needs to change who he is (or what he likes to do); i’m only suggesting that you be aware of what you’re doing and what your female companion is attempting to do to you!
on to specific suggestions. much has been written about bj bars, so i decided to try one. i went to the king kong bar on soi 6, and it was terrible. don’t waste your time here! okay, you can get a chick to blow and fuck you for no more than 500 baht (very dirty s/t hotel room included), but these chicks are a bunch of skanks. sometimes appearances can be overlooked for good servicing, but that’s not the case here. a better place to visit is nice with ice (now called the spice bar) on soi 13/2 (or 13/3?). though the name has changed, they’ll still give you “ice treatment” if you ask for it. larryone and i went to this place at the same time, and the girls did a nice job. they charge a fixed price, and the girl will blow you w/o a condom for an extra 100-200 baht (maximum!). the pump station is also a good place to visit for a quick release, if that suits your mood.
i went to the sabai dee massage parlour, and while a few girls are nice looking, there’s maybe only two or three great looking girls who work there. most girls are pretty average. sabailand seems to have better looking women, but since i prefer the hunt (okay, so it’s like dropping a hook in a barrel full of fish), i chose to pass on the massage parlours and concentrate on the beer bars. near the soi 2 area, there are some bars that seem to have some of the better looking beer bar girls. any of the bars on 2nd road near soi 2 would be good choices to have a beer, chat with the girls, or whatever. a beer bar is a beer bar is a beer bar. the only difference is that occasionally you find a really hot girl working there. one should never pay more than 500 baht s/t or 1000 baht l/t, no matter what you want the girl to do.
some of the better looking girls work at the go go bars. check out any of the go go bars on or just off walking street. the drawbacks: a little more expensive (still never pay more than 1000 s/t or 1500 l/t) and a little more antiseptic in their approach toward doing the deed(s).
by the way gents, it appears that i’ll be back in los (pattaya, of course) 18-25 february. any of you dudes want to meet up for a beer to compare stories?
Very nice job, Muff. And as someone who's stated that Pattaya's not my main taste, let me re-emphasize that I'm making a personal statement about taste, and not at all a judgement, as there's a lot to like about the place, including the fact that it's crawling with available women. Will I still go to Pattaya? Heck yes -- it's just not where I'm going to spend all my time in LOS. If you've got a week or only a bit more, then it or Bangkok are excellent choices.
For what it's worth, when I was there both Eastinys were all booked up, and I stayed at the Central Plaza hotel. Had a suite for 1200baht, and no troubles at all bringing ladies in -- they simply take the ID at the desk. Let me note that I registered as a double, as usual, just in case. It really makes no sense not to in LOS, as there's usually no additional cost to do that.
And the airconditioned bus to Pattaya is really one of the more simple and pleasant ones around -- nothing like some of the ones you'll get outcountry. Simple and cheap, and leaving every twenty minutes or so. Once you're back to Bangkok, just beware the cabbies around Ekkamai, as they're out to gouge tourists big-time, and generally won't do much negotiating, preferring to wait for another sucker who doesn't know what he's doing.
Muff,
Nice report!
Bus #29 aircon runs from the airport to the Skytrainstation near NationalStadium/MBK building for B18. Take the skytrain to your preferred Soi and more money left to spend on the ladies.
It should be clear to every one by now that the aircon buses are the way to go from BKK to Pattaya.You can take one from Morchit2 or from Ekkamai... Up to you!
BTW, do you have an email addy?
THNX,
Freeler
Muff,
I will be in Pattaya on Tuesday, Feb 18 thru Sat Feb 22. Will be staying at the Hard Rock and would love to meet up. Haven't posted on this board in a while but then I haven't been to LOS in over a year. Expect to post an explosive report this time though.
I'm at snafle@hotmail.com
Don
Muff,
Have fun in Pattaya. Sorry I can not join you this time but things are heating up at work, perhaps next time. While you are there can you do me a favor - I have heard that Titty Twister if for sale so head over there and check out the inventories. Perhaps we should pool a group of investors, buy the place and become residents Papasans. It would create a homebase to operate out of and kick back a few Singhas for the weeks we are in town. In addition, think of how the pleasure of the hunt would increase as we could hold auditions for our workerbees - of course we would be an equal opportunity employer. Hell, we might even introduce amature night!!!
For those of you that don't know Muff - I would highly recommend meeting up with him. Fun guys that have a very sane view on the whole experience plus he got some good and interesting stories.
As far as I understand, it seems difficult to enjoy good time as bar owner or papasan in Thailand. Since, by law, you need to have a Thai national as associate, obviously it is more cautious that it be your wife/girlfriend (though you still need to be very cautious about money). Problem is Thai girls are so jaleous that there is no way your girl, even if she is a former/present prostitute, allow you to "bai teeyo puying" (=whoring). She is the boss' girl, and would lose face if you go out and pay other girls. In such circumstance, a Thai girl would reveal the too unknown aspect of Thai fury. There are so many stories of Thai girls taking horrific revenge for being deceived, for exemple by cuting the penis of their husband during the night !
Good luck !
Erik,
It is far safer to let others invest.
Q: how much can I loose when I invest in a bar
A: everything!
Recently a bar'owner' was arrested by immigration in Pattaya for doing the books on a day that his Thai wife didn't come in for work.
He probably still resides in ImmigrationPrison...
And that is NO fun place to be!
EriK: You can lose more than everything by investing in a bar. Even in high season, many bars in the back streets are totally empty so cash flow is a problem. Also, the Middle east is full of guys working on rigs etc to pay off their bar mortgages. They lose more than it costs.
There are some Germans and other guys who specialize in selling bars to suckers. The scam is this: you go into the Munich Beer Cellar or whatever they call it. Lotsa Germans drinking away, a jovial lot with lots of money. You hear it is up for sale. You meet Fritz, the owner, a nice guy who wants to return hme. You buy and pay top dollar. Then Fritz and all his friends buy a flea pit for next to nothing and they look for the next sucker. Your new dream bar, meanwhile, is empty. If you do not expect to make a living from a tiny bar, sitting 13-30 people in your own country, why should you expect to do so in LOS???
There was some talk a while ago of buying Eden but who would deal with a division of Thai troops intent on tearing it down?
There are some interesting bars in Pattaya. One such is The Dogs Bolox, run by (former) notorious English soccer hooligans. They have cable soccer, fish and chips and all the usual shit. But they also have the hooligan element, which is a good commercial move. Unless you can bring something new like that to the party, something which will attract a new and loyal following, forget it.
The foreign husband Freeler mentions looks like the victim of a scam. Just forget it man. Or hang around and listen to the horror stories. And then forget it.
Eric
Be careful of what you wish for, you might just get it.
In my younger days I got a job as the bartender/manager of the slickest strip joint in town. My road partner owned it and told me what I have posted to you. The first two hours were OK, after that it was straight down hill. There is nothing more boring than working in a sex orientated place.
If you must try, hope your the one in a million who enjoys the work, because as an owner, your in a much different position than the tricks. Your relationship with the girls is a business relationship and it has to stay that way.
The other posting about scams are very accurate.
Shamas
Erik,
According to a short mention in today's BKK-Post there is a joint for sale in Nana second floor. Rumour has it it has to fetch EIGHT figures...
I know very few bars that have been around for five years or so. And those are NON-sexoriented bars...
BTW: You don't own the bar, just the business. If the property owner kicks you out, end of that business. In fact, they can simply fit the door with a new lock and NO WAY you can get your belongings out of there. Break the door in and the monkeyhouse is your new home.
And I ain't fq-ing kiddin'!
Also, in 1997, during the Asia-financial-crises, some barrents went up TENfold. That made more than a few people leave with their losses.
Many apparently 'unsuccessful' Thai owned bars are fronts for other businesses. This past January there was a high profile cartheft. The gangleader had a karaokebar as a front.
Again, let others do the investing, let others loose everything.
No need to say that I fully agree with Skinless and Shamas!
I posted a while back in the Bangkok section my conversations with farang bar owners there, and I had a bunch of similar conversations with bar and restaurant owners in Chiang Mai. All had pretty much the same perspectives: 1) If it works, you can make a minimal living, but it's a lot of work, and the living is only what you'd consider ok if you're living on the cheap in LOS. 2) It's something that can and probably will end at any moment, as if you [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] someone off, you and your business are history. 3) You need work your ass off, keep a constant eye on everything, and know exactly where every bit of your money is going at all times, and you should be aware that the way things work will change as soon as you walk out of the door for any reason. One guy said the only way he made any money was by having a Thai manager who got a percentage of the net profits, so they were a bigger bastard than he had to be. But he said it took three tries to find the right persona, and there was no guarantee they would stick around, as the first two managers figured there was a better percentage in just skimming things. Even if you manage to pack the place, there's certainly no guarantee you're going to make money.
I'd also note that the recent bulldozing incident in Bangkok should serve as a good context for the whole thing -- bars just disappeared with no notice whatsoever, and it had nothing to do with any of the tenants doing anything wrong. If that happens to Thai owners, what sort of chance/recourse do you imagine one of us would have?
Thanks Joe and Freeler. Yes, my email address is jdsmithnyork@yahoo.com.
Don, I’ll keep in touch through the back channels. Guys, it looks like Don and I are having a beer or two in Pattaya. Anyone else up for joining us?
LarryOne, it’s too bad you can’t get away from the banana factory. Hopefully, we’ll be able to plan another trip for later this Spring or this Summer. Seems to be a lot of feedback against getting involved in the ownership of beer bars, despite the apparent fringe benefits. I’ll check out Titty Twister nonetheless, but I’m going to need to be pointed in the right direction. Uh, where is it?
Muffdriver,
THNX for the addy.
I will 'backchannel' a selection of my private reports and perhaps some pix aswell, after I've returned home later this first week of February, 2003.
PS I will absolutely return to the HolyLand in the end of June, 2003 for another six week Tour of Duty.
Sorry to ask a question which must have been asked many times but arriving Pattaya for the first time Feb 24th, not sure which hotel to stay at. Can someone please help with a reccomendation not mega bucks I will go upto £30/night, I prefer a chalet type room then I can come and go discreetly with my victims but as long as it is clean anywhere will do Cheers all.
Freeler,
I look forward to receiving your private reports and any pix you want to send over. I'm sure I can be tempted to visit other parts of LOS based on your sage advice.
Cheers,
Muffdriver
LukeSkyWanker,
Do yourself a favour and lose the thought of chalet type lodging when in Pattaya.
Go to Soi8, rooms there in numerous hotels from B350-B1,200+.
Try Flipper, both Eastiny's, HighFive, VisasHouse or a dozen other hotels in Soi8.
Just check out the hotels, if you arrive at a miserable time, take any room and check for other/better the next day.
Thanks Freeler for the response, it would be nice if any of the hotels you mentioned did Massage also, I am looking forward to my first visit to Thailand I am not a novice traveller, I love South America and very curious how Thailand will compare. There must be many experts on Pattaya but perhaps there shagging all the time so cannot get on the tinternet.
LukeSkyWanker,
I'm not sure if these hotels have massage. I'm also not sure if Pattaya would be the town for massage either.
The massage culture is Thai and therefore it sounds logical that Thai towns that do not specificly cater to foreigners would do better in that field.
Boys hand out MP flyers on the street. Since you are not a novice traveller, you should be able to separate the 'BS' from the 'genuine'.
As always: What sounds too good to be true is too good to be true...
Do a forum search for 'KHUN'. He reported on MP's in Pattaya on several occasions.
Luck!
Dear Luke: Here are some contacts plus comments for you
DIANA INN
216/3-9 M.10 Second Road,
Tel:421-623/4, 429-675, 411-650, 429-870 Fax:424-566
E-mail: [email]dianagrp@loxinfo.co.th[/email]
this is a good place, breakfast thrown in for you but not for your beloved. Usually books up as it gets a good golf crowd. Figure on 650-850 bt for rooms. Good security checking out your temporary employees. Gets the John Skinless recommendation
APEX HOTEL
216-1 M.9 Soi 11, Pattaya 2nd Road
Tel:429-233, 428-218/2 Fax:421-184
Beside Diana. Breakfast included. Cheaper than Diana. some like it, some don't
SAWADEE PATTAYA MANSION
367 M.10 Soi Diana Inn, Pattaya 2nd Road
Tel:720-563
Maybe 300 bt a night. Good and clean but too many young horny and noisy Europeans (Brits and Germans). Bad room service but good rooms on top if you are on a budget. Just carry them up and fuck them like Skinless does.
$30 is way too much for a room. Please remember your needs: a bed (important), a lock (very important), washing facilities and a TV for the sweety to watch in between ramming sessions.
For a massage go to: World Thai Oil Foot massage, 205/34 M.10 , 2nd Road, Pattaya tel: 038.425.376. Ask for Joy (no 9). Tell her I still love her. AND DON'T FUCK HER. Go there for a long massage. AND DON'T FUCK HER. You can do that after she finishes work but you gotta tip her more. Give her a good tip for a long massage. Don't let her or anyone else do a hj on you unless you want to shoot a load. be good.
cheers guys thanks for the info I will let you know how I get on.
Hi all...
Finally I booked my flight... I will arrive the 10th of March and will leave the 20th of March... Will anyone wanting to share some fun want to join? My email : ricion@romandie.com
Hope to hear from you! There's so much to do when we are many... ;-)
C U... Take care!
Hey guys
what kind of massage you are talking about?
Pattaya has all kind of massage. Please try to understand before you go to a massage parlour in Pattaya. A body massage parlour like Sabai Dee, Sabai Land, Sabai Room, Susie, Casa has nothing to do with the traditional Thai Massage. Actually these are high level ***** house. Here the girl gives you a bath with body to body rubbbing with soap. and last is a fuc,king session.
Other are oil massage which is better then body massage if you like massage. or go to traditional Thai massage. All are available in Pattaya.
and remember Pattaya is a city for foreners only.
Thanks Khun for the info I will try them all. My preference is a good massage oil or talc, maybe 1/2hour to 1 hour followed by one off the cuff or a blow job.
Thanks skinless for your advice, have booked a week at the Dianna inn I am now stocking up on KY and condoms, already have enough viagra to keep it solid for a month, I intend to sprise open some very tight orifices during my stay. I have one more question for you or anyone in the know remeber this is my first visit to pussyland what is the normal price to pay for an overnighter or 1-2hours Freeler seems to say 200-300 Baht is right but this seems cheap to me (if it is right I will not be leaving) for many years. Oh also I forgot will the Dianna be happy with 2 girls having job interviews at the same time.
LukeSkyWanker,
I had 2 B300 ST girls from BeachRoad last time around.
B200 is cheap in Pattaya... or even impossible
Most, if not all, women from Beachroad will go with you for B300-500 ST and B500-800 LT.
ST bars on PattayaLand have girls from B500 incl the room, on Soi6 the fun starts at B700, B200 room + B500 girl.
Since this is your first stay in Pattaya, allow me to recommend starting with ST, either SW's or in bars. So you can get used to typical TG behaviour.
There is a bit on a crazy girl I had there last time in my report in the OtherAreas section. You don't really want that in your room all night...
Some advice to keep prices low:
The MAXIMUM price for the 'bahtbus' or 'songthaew' in Pattaya is B10!
Except the ride from the busstation to Beachroad: B20.
Basicly all rides are B5, unless you think: 'Wow, that was a long way, dude!' Then you pay B10.
N-E-V-E-R talk to the driver!
If the bahtbus makes a wrong turn, get out and pay B5 and wait for the next one.
Always carry B5 and B10 coins, don't expect to get any change...
Skywanker
You have the right hunch. 200-300 bath seems way to cheap - unless you are as smooth negotiator as Jimmy Carter trying to promote peace around the world. I think Freeeler price range applies up north around Korat, Philok and other less monger visited places. Actually the walkers down on Beach road could probably be had for 200-300 - but most of them I would not touch with a ten foot pole (this would have to be confirmed with others who have actually tried, as these snappers looked fairly unfresh to me hence no sampling by Larry).
I was in Pattaya during end of Nov/beginning of Dec and it seems that if you toss BG 1000 Bath for a whole night she will be MORE than happy (I think many probably will argue that this is way to much in Pattaya actually BKK ladies will be happy with this). Anything more than 1000 in Pattaya is too much. You should start at 500 bath!!!! Stand your ground even if your dick is steel hard and test your ground what she will take. One thing I noticed with BG is that if you offer them lets say 500 she instantly will want more, if you offer a 1000 she wants 1,500. In other words you are being sized up as a pig at a roast - whatever they think that you can afford and how much she can con you out of - she will try to get. There are plenty of guys that only pay lets say 500 bath and the BG is happy with that. See posted reports from early summer/spring last year some guys "Cooljool", a newbie on his first trip never paid more than 500. A buddy of mine is a fighter pilot and was in Pattaya for the Cobra exercise last year and he also NEVER paid more than 500 bath and this was while the whole freakin US Navy was there!!!!
In addition, I advice you to practice Muff Drivers technique if you want more than one or two pops. Tell them right up front that you want to come lets say 4 times and you will know if your HHH is up for some serious bonking - otherwise tell her to take a hike. Remember there is 10,000 others to chose from. Hell all you need to do is to turn around pick the next one.
Remember as one now banned member used to preach - You are in charge!!!!
Hello HanSum man, whe U go, love me long time, boom boom, up to U
Actually, I would like some constructive feedback on my last posting. What is fair price in Pattaya? Lets try to set the parameters to ST (one come, wham bang, in and out) and LT (all night, minimum one come at night and one in the morning, smoke and the whole program, ghost tunnel/anal performance perhaps a few bath extra).
Over to the board.
Guys,
Thanks for all the good info posted. I’ll be arriving in Pattaya at the end of next week and had a few questions. The first place I plan to hit after checking in at the hotel is the Pump Station it was easy to find on the map (still not sure with or without condom, I’ve seen lots of good posts from members on topic).
1. The other BJ bar mentioned was the Spice Bar, Anyone know where it is I can’t find it on the map. Are there any more (excluding the King Kong)?
2. Thanks to Freeler's post I now know to check Soi 6 And Pattayaland for ST bars. These sound pretty good but I was wondering are there any ST hotels in the Walking Street area? I don’t think that if I pick up a freelancer that I would want to take her back to my room.
3. I’m still not sure on transportation to Pattaya, the bus sounds good but my Thai is limited to about 5 words and I’m not sure I’ll be able to get to the hotel from the bus station by baht bus (I hope to master this after a couple of days). Are there taxis that I could take, or should I just take a taxi or limo from BKK straight to the Hotel?
4. If any one will be in town that would like to meet for a beer or two let me know.
Thanks!
LarryOne,
"What is fair price in Pattaya?"
I quote myself:
Most, if not all, women from BeachRoad will go with you for B300-500 ST and B500-800 LT.
ST bars on PattayaLand have girls from B500 incl the room, on Soi6 the fun starts at B700, B200 room + B500 girl.
I was in Pattaya less than two weeks ago. These prices haven't changed in four years...
BTW LarryOne, you don't offer them a price unless you know the price. That is basic negotiating.
"BTW LarryOne, you don't offer them a price unless you know the price. That is basic negotiating."
Well said -- either ask her price and then make a counter-offer, or don't bring it up at all and pay what you think is fair. And in the latter case, expect there will be times of argument and negotiation. This is, I think, particularly true in Pattaya, where ladies have far less expectation that anything longer-term might be in the offing, and are simply trying to get as much as they can whenever they go with you.
But for what it's worth, I never had any problems in Pattaya simply slipping 1000baht into a woman's purse or pocket the morning after a long-time session. Yup, that can be seen as slightly on the high side, though not all that much, and you can save some dough by negotiating, but for a couple hundred baht I always found it nicer simply not to have to spoil the GFE.
It's the ST sessions where I really think it's important to negotiate up front.
How do you ask a thai girl for anal?
Good info guys I can't wait to get to Pussyland I will have a wet dream tonight in anticipation. Tomorrow I start training 10 mile runs 6 mile swims 20 mile bike rides lots of carbohydrates and maybe half a dozen knuckle shuffles. I am going to do some serious pounding while I am there, I had a Colombian girl once while in Venezuela who was a genuine nymphomaniac, never had one since but hope to find one in Pattaya.
Sparkydude,
PattayaLand is about 150m from Northend of WalkingStreet.
A good ST hotel is:
PS Guesthouse
Soi Yamato about 50m from BeachRoad
This Soi is very close to SoiPostoffice. Both definitely are on your map, about 400m from Northend of WalkingStreet.
If you plan to ST girls from BeachRoad it is smart to take a room here (fan B150, air B250). It's nothing classy, but you're only going to be there to fuck the hell out of some girl...
From the Pattaya busstation any total idiot can get on the bahtbus and go to BeachRoad. So, if your hotel is on that road or one of its Sois, no problem. If not, it may take a few changes at B5 each. Then it's probably better to take a motorcycle from the busstation straight to the hotel. The motorguys in Pattaya have recently cleaned up their act and became pretty reliable, including fixed prices...
BKK-Pattaya... is BKK the airport or will you be in town? If BKK is the airport, when do you arrive? The when part is important, at night only taxi and limousine, during the day bus, airportbus, limousine, taxi...
For the bus you don't need Thai, just B10 and B94!
luke...dickups dood...dats da key...dickups..
some people can actually go up to 10 lbs already.
tapioca
Hi Guys
Can some one please comment on a serviced apart accomodation in Pattaya with reasonable price and not too far from the actions?
Freeler and Joe_Zop,
Good comments. I usually practice Joe's method of giving the lady what I thought was fair for a good overnight experience (I have sometimes tossed 1000Bath if the experience has been good, emphasis on good here) and to avoid ruining the experience by haggling about 200-300 Bath. I did not mean to beat a dead horse but I was curious if I was in line or not. Short time I always negotiate the price before so I know what I getting myself into.
To whoever it was that asked about location for Spice Bar,
The Spice Bar (Nice with Ice) is right next door to the Pump Station.
Guys, I have been hearing about a place called the Pump Station, exactly where is it, what is it and how does it work?
Freeler,
Thanks for the info. Late night BKK arrival probably easer/cheaper to stay in Bangkok and take the bus in the morning and since I fit into the any total idiot catagory I guess the bahtbus won't be a problem.
I'll post info on prices paid for various types of entertainment upon return. It'll be nice to post info rather than just ask questions. I've found a few gogo's and beer bars on line that I will check out. Still not sure which soapy (the saibi dee or saibiland) I guess it depends on which the fish bowl looks like since I've heard good and bad about both.
I had a free half hour yesterday and I read your posting about your 6 week tour of duty in the holy land. Good stuff.
PS: Does anyone have info on the spice bar (nice with ice) I read a couple of postings and it sounded interesting. Any info on location and what is meant by assemmbly line service?
Sparkydude,
Glad to read you fit in somewhere:D!
It is smart to stay in BKK for the first night(s).
I would not focus too much on specific bars and such, like PumpStation or NiceWithIce. There are more bars in Pattaya than the human brain can understand.
Pattaya's bars outnumber those in AngelesCity (PI) by at least 50 to 1.
I saw some posts commenting on WalkingStreet. WS is more or less the scam zone, more (attempted) robberies, katoeys and other unpleasant stuff. Sois 6, 8 and PattayaLand are safer.
For other info on Pattaya, check: http://www.pattayamail.com/current/news.shtml
a new issue on the net every Friday. You'll be amazed by what goes on in that town...
Freeler,
Counting my hours to LOS.
Thanks for all your help.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Freeler
[i]Sparkydude,
I saw some posts commenting on WalkingStreet. WS is more or less the scam zone, more (attempted) robberies, katoeys and other unpleasant stuff. Sois 6, 8 and PattayaLand are safer.
[/i][/QUOTE]
Freeler
It is this type of mis information that really sets me off. Have you even ever spent a day or night in Pattaya? Walking street is the heart of the entertainment scene in Pattaya. Saftey is not really a problem within the city but to say Walking Street is the scam zone is just a 100% direct lie. Walking street has the Thai Poloice and the Tourist Police, it is also the best lighted area of the city. And more people than the other areas you mention.
Now on to a few more things most of the Go Go bars are on Walking Street / Soi Diamond, all the Go Go's with nude dancing are there. Also the Discos and the large clubs, Pattaland is fun but the Go Go bars are small and the girls dance in clothes, at Misty's you will get top less but that is it. The bar fines are highest on Payaland Land and more Katoeys are on Pattayaland than Walking Street. As for Soi 6, and 8 people are hit every night by cars, trucks, or motorbikes, the same can't be said for Walking Street. That said I like Soi 8 and Pattaland but Pattaya is not Pattaya without the heart Walking Street.
I don't understand why anyone would try to mislead the readers of this board?
Sexreview,
totally agree with you. Soi 6 and 8 are good to be on, but walking street is where the action is. I don't know what's going on in people's brain trying to mislead others by giving wrong information. Just remember how I was a "beginner" myself and happy about all good advices from the seniors.
Bide59, Sexreview,
Drunks get hit by cars, true.
WS is safer than it used to be. Now with the fence at the north-end the nighttime motorcycle drive-by robberies may stop. And indeed Pattaya police are cleaning up their act too with the new Chief in place, they may even come out of their box when they hear or see a disturbance...
But, it is still more or less a scamzone (the bars, the pooltables, be careful!). It is ofcourse possible that you didn't see that on your many visits there.
(I mean some people don't see the katoeys in Patpong, or WS for that matter...)
I'm sure with all this information, yours and mine, any newbie can have a look and decide for him self.
I think you're right, Freeler, that there are more scams concentrated around or near Walking Street than elsewhere, but labelling the whole thing as a "scam zone" is a bit rough. There are plenty of places there where people can go and have a good time with no problems, and while the crime and scammers are about that's no different from anywhere with lots of crowds. I wouldn't warn newbies off from it, I'd simply note that they should probably be a bit more careful there, though there is a more obvious police presence there these days as well, which is good.
You could say the same thing about walking down Sukhumvit -- and probably should -- in terms of being a place where there are more scams and crime than in some other places, though it seemed to me this time that it as well had been cleaned up a bit, with not as many aggressive katooey pickpockets roaming around. (Just gotta watch out for roaming gangs with bulldozers, I guess!)
Joe_zop,
I'm sure I wrote 'more or less the scamzone' and 'Sois6&8 are safer'.
I didn't say: 'If you go to WS you will die!'
It just means, in your words, 'be a bit more careful there'.
BTW Sois6&8 (&7&1&2&some more) don't need extra police attention...
Points taken.
Hey... Anyone there between 10th and 19th march? I will... Want to share some drink, laughs... girls... hunting?
Just drop a mail at ricion@romandie.com
Take care...
I've been in Pattaya for three days and met up with Dashing Don and JoshScoresEZ, a couple of great guys and fellow mongers. If I were to give another report, it would be much like my last (and rather lengthy) posting, so I'll spare you the details here. Pattaya's cooler in the evenings this time of year, and there are plenty of nice looking girls willing to go for 500/1000 ST/LT. It appears that the city isn't very busy, considering that this is the high season.
A group of us have talked about meeting here sometime in September, so mark your calendars for that possibility.
Muffdriver
Hey Guys;
It is finally my time. I leave San Fancisco at 12:15 AM on Mar 9 and arrive in BKK 11:15AM on Mar 10? ( I still don't quite understand the time thing). I have a lot of questions but I am not sure what to ask.
Since my destination is Pattaya, should I try to go directly to P as soon as I get there or stay overnight in BKK?
What about hotels? I want to find a room below $30 or about $25 but I want a comfortable place with good private bathing facilities and convenient to the action. I was looking at the President oin line but Tap said that it wouldn't be too good an idea for me. Do I need to book ahead and how?
I also need some nuts and bolts advice on getting what I want but I am not sure what I need to ask.
I am also curious about but not attached to the possibility of getting a suit made. About how much does one cost and how long do you need to get one done?
These are the only questions I can think of for now.
najene
Najene,
Welcome back!
So you arrive in BKK at 11:15AM, that is perfect timing if you want to go to Pattaya on the same day. In fact, you should be able to take the easiest mode of transport to Pattaya: The ThaiAirwaysLimousine Bus at 12.00AM (midday). That may sound a bit silly, a Limousine Bus, but it is a busservice run by ThaiAirways. A ticket is B200.
This is their website, prices on the bottom of the page:
[url]http://www.thaiair.com/thailand/limousine/fares.htm[/url]
Here is how to find their counter in BKK(=DonMuang)Airport:
[url]http://www.thaiair.com/thailand/limousine/counter.htm[/url]
They will drop you off at their Pattaya office on ThirdRoad. From there a motorcycle to the pleasure zone (Soi8) is B30-40
'I want to find a room below $30 or about $25', that would be 30xB42=B1260 max.
Allow me to laugh out loud: HAHAHA! It will be hard to find a hotel that is that expensive!
I (as usual) suggest you, being a firsttime visitor, go to Soi8 and make a pick from a dozen hotels ranging from B350 to, OK, the max price you mentioned.
I like FlipperLodge for 'top-end'.
Pool, 50m from the beach, nice terrace outside overlooking the Soi8 bars, spacious rooms, B1,000 for a double, no 'deluxe' or 'extra bed' needed...
Their website is here:
[url]http://www.flippergroup.com/lodgepic/lodgemain.html[/url]
For mid March there is no need to book in advance. There will be rooms plenty available. However, for your peace of mind, perhaps you should book for the first night.
Booking here:
[url]http://www.hotelthailand.com/pattaya/flipperlodge/booking.html[/url]
There are dozens of tailors in Pattaya who can make you a suit within 48 hours. I don't have clothes made anymore, I buy of the rack only now. Both Mike's Shopping Mall and RoyalGarden, both on BeachRoad, have all the top brands in their collections at prices you will find hard to believe.
If you checked out this possibility and still want to find a (good)tailor, best ask a local/expat for recommendations.
March is a hot month. Bring just one small bag (I never bring more than 10kg/20lb). If you bring a suitcase full of stuff, it is full of stuff you won't use! One bag also means 'carry on' luggage eg no need to check it in, no need to wait at luggage claim, saves time - up to half an hour in BKK.
Even if you arrive at 11.45, and hurry, you can catch the LimousineBus...
The time thing is indeed a bit strange. But you will fly across the dateline. This can be VERY confusing!
Do check with the airline! You don't want to miss your flight. Dammit, you waited long enough!
Whatever airline you fly, your mileage will be staggering, so do get a frequent flyer card with that airline. Check their website, on line sign-up often gets you extra miles for free!
These are the only answers I can think of for now:)! We can fasten the nuts and bolts later...
[QUOTE]Originally posted by najene
[i]Hey Guys;
It is finally my time. I leave San Fancisco at 12:15 AM on Mar 9 and arrive in BKK 11:15AM on Mar 10? ( I still don't quite understand the time thing). [/i][/QUOTE]
Here is the explanation about time:
Thailand is ahead of SF 15 hours so if it's night time in SF then it's day time in BKK the next day. When you travel out bound (i.e., leaving SF) and fly transpacific you will cross the international dateline.
Just got back after 4 days in BKK and 4 in Pattaya. As I already posted in the BKK section, I will confine this to Pattaya.
First off, I met up with fellow monger, Muffdriver. As it was my first time meeting a WSG monger I was curious as to how it would work out. Both I and a friend met Muff in a bar on 2nd Road last Tuesday. At first we exchanged pleasantries and kind of felt each other out. This was understandable considering that many people don't want to jeopardize their livelihood etc. back in the USA. Hilariously, however, the conversation soon turned to barfines, fucking experiences, blowjobs, jokes etc. Muffdriver is an entertaining and well-travelled monger who we got to see quite a bit during the four days.
A word on the hotel: the Hard Rock. Stay away! It is mostly frequented by Japanese families and the hotel doesn't want mongers staying there. The girls were always stopped for lengthy perusals of their ID and multiple questions about the length of their stay. During one interrogation where the reception clerk wanted to know just how long my girl would be in the room, I replied " until I finish fucking her." He bowed, Thai-style, with a phony smile. He then informed me that if she stayed overnight, there would be a 900 baht charge. This, despite that I had reserved a double room. I protested loudly; he conferred with another clerk and he admitted his mistake. Boiling over, I loudly informed him that the Hard Rock stank, and that I would never be coming back. He bowed, thanked me, and again with the smile.
The Hard Rock was $97 a night. Muffdriver's hotel was $18 and was really nice--the Sabai Hotel (Inn, Lodge or something) on Soi 2. Very monger friendly he assured me, to the point where the manager would go out to purchase condoms for a monger!!
I won't waste space on prices; suffice to say that after the US, its really cheap. A word on go-go girls though. It seems that the best looking, are the worst in bed. I barfined one from Pigalle on Walking Street. She was beautiful and seemed to have a nice personality, but she barely participated in bed. The usual 5s and 6s, bargirls, were much more enthusiastic and never needed to be encouraged to "Smoke" or things like that.
There were many funny moments and lots of laughs. When you go from a world of work work work, to where the biggest decision of your day is who to barfine, the incongruity of it is often hilarious. At one point, in a bar, a girl asked me what I liked to do. Already in the LOS groove and without thinking, I immediately responded that I liked "smoke" and "boom boom." By the look on her face I knew that this was the wrong answer and that she really wanted to know my interests. Weakly, I relayed my interest in tennis, travel etc.
After barfining a girl and not being happy with her performance I expressed this to a girl from the same bar who was with my friend. She must have relayed my concerns to all the girls in the bar because when I returned a few days later, my barfine came up to me and told me that she was angry with me because I was "talkshow", no longer "sweetmouth" but she would go out with me again as a " case study."!! Hilarious.
"Schmuck of the year" award should go to the farang who, I overheard, tried to impress a bargirl by telling her that he was a one-woman man. Yup, its true.
Pattaya is so full of girls that I never got around to seeing the BJ bars or other sights. There are so many other things to report that the post would be too long. Just many laughs, and many girls.
Don
Hi everyone,
Going to be in Pattaya March 6 until March 10. Staying at Flipper at Soi 8 or any other Hotel around as that was a good place last time (for hunting and action). Anyone there at this time who wants to meet up with me ? Anyone intrested in some group action ? 3-some with a nice TG or 2-3 couples ? Sorry to ask, but would be a change instead of the "normal" boom boom I use to do over there. Shared fun, more fun.....
mail me at : "villhakul@yahoo.com
PS Does anyone know a good massage place close to Soi 8 ? Last time I didn't look for one but would love to get a massage and "treatment" after hours of flying the evening I arrive.
Muffdriver,
Field report please! I am boring myself to death at home and am in dire need of war stories from someone who is on location.....Soi Post Office, Beer Bar at Sabaidee, Da2?? Ok I will wire barfine via Western Union in exchange and perhaps you can ask one of the ladies how to pick it up - how about that for turning the tables!!!
[quote]originally posted by najene
[i]i am also curious about but not attached to the possibility of getting a suit made. about how much does one cost and how long do you need to get one done?
najene [/i][/quote]
there are 100+ tailor in pattaya mostly indians providing tailoring service. price between us$ 75 to 100 (including cloth). may be little expensive if you go for better cloth. priced tailor is tajmahal at 2nd road in front of royal garden. otherwise grovers below alibaba restuarent (in front of tops super center in pattaya center road near beach). then there are many rep001tered at beach road or 2nd road.
The Flipper sounds good. Which is better the lodge or hotel. How can I book a double. The only choices are single or twin. Is there a need to book a double to bring an overnight guest without being charged extra.
Jodomas
Skinless and the ho from hell.
Tip of the Day: Always be sure of the lady before poppping the V.
Skinless said farewell to Korat. He ignored the over priced motor bikes outsdie the hotel (big mistake), walked, tired and got a pedi cab (the ass holes smelled of cchweap whisky). He dropped me at the wrong bus terminal wherer I got a songthaw to Terminal 2. It passes the moat on the side opposite Sokal, the one where the old ladies run the internet shop. The Pttaya bus had only seats downstairs so I skip and get put on the wrong bus (to Pattay) after asking about 20 times if it was the Pattaya bus. I return to the terminal 40 minutes later and get a shit seat in an air con bus, right up the front where tghe stewardess gives me shit about my feet. I ignore her. She tells the big Thai guy opposite me. He tells me "In Thailand feet blah blah". I tell him to tell her to fuck off and I spread my legs further" She talks shit to the driver and another loafer all the way to Pattay, when they are not stopped for some reason or another.
Finally we make it to this fabled city. The sight of huge massage parlors perks me up. I get a song thaw to 2nd Road. With backpack on and nowhere to stay, I approach a BB chick but no go. I go up a lane to find a fleapit to sleep in. Then SHE appears. Long legs and longer hair. I have to have her. Instead of checking out the hotels, I watch her vanish around the corner. I run after after. "HGello hansum woman, where u go?" "Work" Where u work and how much bar fine and how much long time (No time for talking shit about the weather. She tewlls me 200 bar fine and 1000 for her but she will settle for 800. Skinless checks out some flea pits behind Apex but all are boooked out. He finds a shiot hole (200 bt), books in for 3 nites and returns to the bar: opposite 7-11, the one furtherst from Soi 8 in that little strip. She is there eating food with a farang and 3 fat cows. Skinless says he take walk. Skinless him take walk but he has apready popped the V and is very tired.
Him go back to bar. Him see her legs. Him gotta have even though the fat cows are repulsive and htere is a 6'2" TV working behind the bar (not working as him/her get many baht from bf him live in Europe). Anyway, Oy for thatr is my sweetie's name, siuts down beside me. orders a 90 bt drink (another bad sign), then starts talking shit to one of the cows about farang bf (him no good). Skinless must be tripping or something coz he is ignoring all these bad vibes. THenshe dances up on the stage and Skinless ogles at those legs. (high boots and a sexy dress seting things off I am afraid).
She sits down beside me, talks about her 2 kids and man form Denmark, him no good. Talk about the little head doing the thinking. I ignore her belly (not really I pinch it, taking a good fistfull in my hand and make a joke that falls flat). More shit form her so I say, ok let's fuck.
We go back to my place where she makes me shower, then tells me no smoke etc (the bed is perfect for handcuffs etc). We talk about her 2 kids, man from Denmark, some other shit. I fuck her, doing all the work and wroking her up. Then she very reluctantly gives me a 10 minute shit ass massage. I get ready for a 2nd fuck. Like my wife she says not tonight darling. Now I sleep tomorrow morning u boom boom me. I tell her the law. She cries and tells me man from Denmark, him break her heart. There is plenty of other shit talk to go with this. PLenty of tears. I start fucking her again but give up. She won't even let me kiss her tits now. She cries again. Somewhere along the line we look at her photos of her kids. When she is showeriung, i check her purse (she has about 350 bt). Her whole conversation is $$, about how she needs 5000 bt to pay 4000 arrears in rent and to go to Buriram for 1 month (you do the math).
A technical detail: as we fuck, I notice her belly contracts and she looks like the young beauty she might have been (she is 33). She wais, apologises for not making me happy etc etc. AdleZ famous mantra jumps t mind. I pay her to get rid of her. Iti s only 11.30 pm. I give her 720 bt.
So Joe Zop: I paid more for 90 minutes with a lady on the verge of a nervous breakdown. That and the barfine and drink, means I must sepnd 1000 bt on myself today. It laso means a 3 day gfe is out as one nite is already gone. Jow, I had visions of kicking the shit out of you today as I pigged on the 85 bt breajfast buffet at the Diana Inn of happy memories (where the BB one gave me the clap). Paying ore does not give more. Most of these women are extremely fucked up in the head. The sight of all the gray headed old men with their young ladies is obviously food for thought. Skip the buffet: they are even making the plates smaller so you wil eat less. I also got the runs from it.
The Diana Inn breakfast is worth it only to see the customers. A Thai lady slicing a soft friend egg with a knife and trying to pick up the runing yolk with her knife, some mixed couples and their children (sme of these marriages do work). There is a noted drop in the number of mongers and more families which is where the futuree probably lies. I did not explore much yesterday due to the raving Pochauntas. This is the second time that happened to me. The other time was staying at Nana where I followed a long legged beauty (same type of boots up to the ankles, very sexy) into a 7-11 outside Nana Plaza, barfined her 600 bt and got a bait and switch (she only short times me after talking about farangs buying her jewelry. She left 5 minutes before i was going to fuck her out).
There was also a Thai beauty in Japan: leather dressed, t\ended upo taking her for a Thai meal after a so so bonk, cost over 10,000 bt in all, that one).
Moral of the story. Buyer beware. CVheck the merchandise before purchasing. Oy wil have a serious nervous breakdown very soon. These women are damaged goods. Either follow Adlez' mantra (one quick bonk, learning from Freeler by paying bottom end prices) or find a reasonable bonking machine and do her long time. If she orders an expensive drink or hints at shopping, drop her. If you are looking for love, look somewhere else.
Tapioca: the good pussy in Japan is reserved for Japanese people. You had the bottom of a very deep barrel and paid high $$ for it.
The intenret shop is now filling up woth the gray headed partially bald pony tail brigade. Time ofr me to go, most probably shopping or to get some cheap trash along Beach Road.
Joe: Plese stop talking about "choice" like we are fucking Hilary Clinton. These women are too dumb/young/ignorant to make rational choices. I canot make rational choices either even if I am old enough, ugly enough (I now feel like a fat, balding, Ich Bin ein Berliner) and educated enough to know and do otherwise. I have also engaged in unsafe sex practices. Howeve,r if I was to take the lead from Oy etc, there would ne no unsafe sex and very little sex. One of htem in Korat, I think, wanted me to wear two condoms.
Joe: did you ever check out the surreal paitings. This place can be like a very bad acid trip.
Freeler: All is forgiven. I love you./ Please take me away from all this.
John Skinless xxxxxxxxxx
(Freeer": I don't really love you . I am going to go down and pick up soem beach trash. Why share a bed wirth someone who might rob you, who you cannot trust and who only fucks, EVEN ME!!!!, for money.
JS
ps: ever notice how often the wordf "baht" appears in conversations here. Now I am off ot Beach Road but I must also spend 1000bt on myself first.
Remember there are no 300 bt hos, only 300 b t Johns.
John.
Jodomas,
A single room in Thailand is a room with one double bed.
A double, sometimes called a twin, is a room with two double beds.
So, if you want to sleep in this bed and you want your lay to sleep in the other, by all means, get yourself a twin.
Both Flippers are 'girlfriendly' and safe. The girl has to leave her id at the desk.
Do NOT barfine a girl before seeing her ID!
On the rare occasion that I actually BF a girl, I let them pay the BF, telling them they get it back if: NO problems getting into the hotel and NO f*cking bleeding pussy.
Skinless,
First the wrong busstation and then on the wrong bus, happens to everybody and it can drive you crazy! I know, I've been there.
So I bought me a bilingual map and if I'm not sure they understand me, I show them the map with the destination's name in Thai. Always works.
On the bus you were not in great danger showing the soles of your feet or shoes. In other places, like bars, karaokes or restaurants, sometimes this very rude behaviour results in death.
In Pattaya you lost sight of the most important rule: Always be in control, you decide!
I am glad you don't love me.
Skinless, it can be summed up very succinctly: the little head was doing all the thinking, and that's always trouble no matter what you are or are not paying. 200baht, 1000baht, $500, a house or two, whatever, if you're only paying attention to the legs they're gonna lead you astray. You put up with all kinds of shit you never ordinarily would have put up with (nor would I) for any price. Don't blame that on me or my approach -- this sounds like the same story I'd expect from any newbie in LOS who got hot for a particular girl who managed absolutely to quickly figure out that fact and take advantage of it! The secret, as you very well know, of successful long-time and of value-added experience is in proper choice of partner. Most do not fit the bill. If you're gonna ignore all the bad vibes what do you expect? How you could have imagined this situation should be anything other than a quick bang and a walk is beyond me.
Absolutely, paying more does not necessarily give you more -- I don't disagree with you in the least. You've got to be selective, and make sure you're picking a winner. The point is whether you're in a place where value-added GFE is available, which is is in Pattaya or Sukhumvit, where the park in Korat apparently isn't.
The bottom line, frankly, is that based on what I've been reading in your reports, there's little or no difference in the amount you and I paid. It's a difference in emphasis. Paying 200baht five times a day or paying 1000baht once is still paying the same. The question is whether you're getting what you want -- if you are, any price is cheap, if you're not then free is too expensive.
Yup, lots of these women are screwed up -- and there's undoubtedly a higher percentage of that in Pattaya than in other places. That makes the screening process ever more important, and is also a reason to look for those who are not completely hardened pros with broken hearts and sad stories. And please, before you go off on me, remember that Pattaya is very far from my favorite place in LOS.
Yes, I checked out the surreal paintings. I was underwhelmed -- too much same-same, knock-off crap for my tastes. Nothing I haven't seen a thousand times, and the usual and understandable problem with so much Thai work for tourists, whether we're talking about women, food, or painting -- decent technique but no soul.
Skinless,
Very funny report. On the edge you stand looking straight down to the depths of your tour. It sounds like you are having a nervous breakdown...
Don't let the who.res get the best of you. You get the best of them..... Enjoy.
juice
Joe_Zop and anyone else who has an opinion:
I took Joe_Zop's advice and booked some nights at Royal Asia in BKK. Now need some good advice about a place with similiar criteria Joe_Zop.....any suggestions?? I've heard good things about the FlipperLodge. Thanks again for all the good advice everyone on here has been excellent!
Hi guys;
Thanx for your help. What about the weather? Is it hot 24/7 or do I need a jacket or something part of the visit in March? I'll have to bring one anyway as I'll need to wear it to get out of San Fransicko. I read what you said about the bag but I only have a large one so I'll have to use it. I assume there are ATMs readily available. I'm still a little confused about the time. If I leave here Sunday morning, do arrive there Monday morning?
Freeler;
thanx for the links. what is the difference between the regular, deluxe and suites, besides 500bht? Also, if I can't make the noon trip what alternatives do I have?
skinless, the hiv and herpes hos and the shit heap of pattaya: greetings where i spent a full day scouting beach road etc and almost took a 60+ lady. hiv: some (at least 2) terminal aids ladies for hire on beach road -they look so bad you have to stare at them, some young lady boys: shop carefully. most beach road ladies wanted 500 bt but i did not push negotiation skills and passed on them. during a marathon patrol session, i saw one definite cutie (who was with the old hag but those cuties are full of shit). i also saw some feral hos, most probably on yaba.i went for a swim and made sure to rinse my mouth continually. those speed boats suck.
after walking most of the day, i went for a littel piece of soi 8 tail but she refused me (!!): just opposite a new go go bar there. then strolling down soi 7,i met the little f-g machine i took last time. popped v, paid bar fine, no drink etc, took her back, popped her 3 times plus a bbbj. i showed her the door at 9 am, having tried to get rid of her last nite as i had some health concerns with her: small little white spots (5 near her shaved pussy) and some discharge in her pussy when i took her panties off. i drank plenty of water, pissed a lot, showered many ties, used condoms so...
pattaya is not for me. i am going to check out of my flea pit today a day early and go to bangkok for some shopping and r&r.
joe, we are not in disagreemnt and the little head was not doing all the thinking. her legs were nice, i did show her the door but i like to go easy on people who are fucked up in the head. i was also tired and did not want to walk to soi 8 and i find the bars around diana inn full of second rate women. as regards crazy women, i pay them and get rid of them. that way i avoid explosive situations. same as last nite's lady: very cooperative, good heart and nice legs i admired going away in the distance today. but she will be in the bar tonight and i will not as i will be in bkk. also, i did not contact the bb one. i find their tragedies (the real ones) the most interesting part of them. i also found it interesting to see how this one (whose name i don't even know though i have her email passowrd at home somewhere) had progressed (or regressed) since last time out. she now speaks some english, has learned to lie and, if she passes herpes etc around, it is a true gfe.
i paid her 1120 bt. remember there are no 1120 bt hos... oh, she is also into talking about her friends who married europeans and she sports a nice mobile phone.
so all in all, pttaya is what you make it. also depends what you are looking for.
as regards those paintings: they just struck me hard the first day as the prior experience of that day had been so surreal. there is much that is surreal in pattaya: figure yesterday as a tiny example: 3 one legged guys (all three on crutches and with withered legs) with 3 cuties going for a walk along beach road. the ladies in pattaya, korat and everywhere add to that surreal life. it is one i find interesting up to a point.
Najene,
I only stayed in the regular Flipper rooms, and I liked them. I would not book up the scale from that, that sounds like a pure waste of money to me.
March is HOT. You don't need the jacket.
There are plenty ATM's at the airport now, though mainly in Terminal1. If you find the Limousine counter first, ask them where the nearest one is.
Even though your departing VERY early 'today', you will arrive in BKK midday 'tomorrow'. It has to do with crossing the dateline. Do book your hotel for 'tomorrow'.
'if I can't make the noon trip what alternatives do I have?'
Well, The limousine service has reliable limo's too, an awful lot easier/better/safer than your average taxi.
All the way to Pattaya is a bit pricey compared to this alternative:
For B500 they take you into BKK, ask to go to Ekamai Bus terminal(40-60minutes). Hop on a bus for Pattaya there (B95 or so), the trip takes about two hours. You can't miss the Pattaya bus.
(Normally I would say to go to Morchit2 terminal, but the B500 is a fixed rate, Ekamai is on the 'other side' of BKK and during the ride to Ekamai you will see a fair bit of the city.)
In Pattaya, take a B20 songthaew from the busstation to BeachRoad. You can't miss the songthaews, but just say BeachRoad and get in the BACK, not next to the driver! On Beachroad, look for the round blue signs with the soi numbers, ring the bell when you see Soi7 or 8. Make sure you have a twenty Baht note in your pocket!
If I had your email I could send you some pix to familiarize yourself with the situation.
Anyone knowing a good massage place around Soi 7/ 8 ?
Would like to get relaxed and well treated after a long trip on Thursday. Man, can't wait to be there again, 48 hours and counting .....:-)
Thanks for your help.
Freeler,
Thanks, seems like a single at the Flipper late April. I have stayed at the Rose Garden and it is very good but far from the action.
About the a/c bus service from Ekamei. Are there more than one company that operates this service from this terminal? I used the service last year and the bus I was on left with only 7-8 passengers but by the time it has left BKK it had stopped a few times and it was standing room only. The bus kept stoping along the way to drop and pickup more passengers. The arrival in Pattaya was on the side of the road and not in a terminal. It was a good 3-4 hours ordeal.
jodomas
Jodomas,
From Morchit2 this problem never occurs, only seats are sold, but if you're unlucky they drop off a lot of passengers near Pattaya. However, the ride never takes longer than 2-2½hrs.
What you describe happened to me too when I took the service from Ekamai some years ago. But it was the same company that runs the Morchit service... I don't know if there are other companies that go to the Pattaya-BKK terminal.
There are companies that, en route to Jomtiem or Rayong, stop at the busstation on Sukhumvit in Pattaya.
The one buscompany I know of is 'Roong Ruang coach'.
Hey, hey hey... Some view more days here and I'll be between one or two nice legs there... Anyone wants to take part to the fun there? Drop an email at ricion@romandie.ch
And lets get wild on those nice thais... ;-)
Take care...
The Bus Service
Everywhere you have express buses & passenger (slow) buses which takes more stops. Some buses are express service which enroute to sky way & bypass to Chonburi & Sriracha. These buses will reach very fast to Pattaya (2-2.5 Hours). Some buses are coming through inside which takes lot of time.
Preferably take buses from Bangkok to Pattaya (not via Chonburi & Sriracha). If bus is for Satahip or Rayong then it will drop you at Sukumwit Road in Pattaya (not on the bus stand) but it does not matter. You can get Sonthew there also.
Just returned from my first visit to Thailand (Pattaya) got serious depression on way back to England here's how it went.
Arrived at BKK airport at 12:00hrs from Dubai scanned the women at the airport and very disapointed I travel to Venezuela frequently and as soon as you arrive there are beauts everywhere never mind hope it will improve in Pattaya. Arrived Pattaya at 16:00hrs MY GOD I AM IN HEAVEN there are stunners all over the place booked in Diana inn, bags to room and then out font door to the right, first right again (soi Honey inn 2nd place on left for massage after traveling. 400bht for 2hrs followed by knuckle shuffle with loads of hot oil on knob, wonderful came out skipping.
A few beers in a couple of bars near Diana nice birds everywhere then back to hotel to get ready for first night out, visited Soi 2 with a friend who lives in Jomtien had a takeaway from Atlantic bar 29 yrs old excellent attitude, good looking but a little tame in bed not what I was looking for on my first night but can't complain 200bht barfine I gave her 1000bht for the whole night she never asked or checked the money.
Next day she didn't want to leave talked her into going after promising I would call her mobile she made sure I got the number, went up to Soi 11 Lipstick bar quite happy with just looking for something later in the evening but girl No 40 came and sat with me a little chitchat then hand up my shorts had me a bone on in less than a minute this girl had skill she would have got me off there and then but decided to have a short walk back to hotel to show her my stamp collection.
In the evening only got about 20yds from Diana's front door to a past the green bottle stopped for a Singha and fell for a girl called Dan with big teeth beautiful smile and good at connect 4 had another take away same price OK but again a little tame. 3rd night this is when things got fucked up went to a bar on Soi 8 and started playing dice with a lovely young thing said if win I will pay your barfine of course I won and took her back to Diana she was a real doll couldn't do enough for me I was hooked spent the next 3 nights with her what a fuck up I need help from Zen got rid of her sadly after deciding I needed to get my act together, but ended up seeing her again in the same evening. Sunday night off to the airport for home she insisted on coming tried to put her off but tears OK I gave in I expected to be embarrased at the airport having a girl hanging round my neck heartbroke but in the checkin area almost every single bloke there was in the same situation so I didn't look out of place. Somebody needs to give me a serious talking to I am in love can't wait to get back. I was probably at the Diana the same time as Skinless he recommended it some postings back it was OK but I did notice there where a lot of queers staying there at least 4-5 hung around pool during the daytime. I will be going back very soon I think and I will try out the Eastiny inn my new Thai wife reccomended it.
Hey Guys;
The nurse at our detox facility (I'm a counselor, not a client) when she heard I was going to Thailand, said "Be careful there. Only get oral sex". OK, where is she coming from?
Since I am still unsure exactly when I will get into Pattaya, (I am just really dense on this time and dateline thing) is it easy to get a room at the flipper at that time without a reservation? I was also wondering about the Danish Hotel. It's cheap and the food menu looks good.
Luke -- so you're in love with someone who you met, bought after a few minutes, and had great sex with for three days. You weren't embarrassed at the airport because there were lots of other guys who were seen off by crying women hoping for repeat customers and going-away gifts.
Time to get the big head back in charge. Umm, how exactly do you suppose she knew to recommend the Eastiny? Perhaps you should ask her what room she prefers?
But of course you know this.
Najene -- your nurse is coming from the perspective that there is a far higher percentage incidence of STDs in Pattaya than in most places you're going to visit in the US, and that, in general, receiving oral sex reduces your personal risks of infection. As does using a condom and practicing safe sex. She's right about that, of course, but it's hardly cause for cancellation or undue concern.
Najene
All the party sois run from BeachRoad to SecondRoad. Soi8 is in the heart of it. FlipperLodge in on Soi8. But so are 15 or so other hotels on soi8. I would not go for any hotel that has a nationality in its name. At the Danish Hotel (never heard of it) Danes will be all over. In a hotel like Flipper nationalities are more mixed.
<It is finally my time. I leave San Fancisco at 12:15 AM on Mar 9 and arrive in BKK 11:15AM on Mar 10?>
Yes, you arrive in the late morning of March10! Book a room at the Flipper for March10. I would say they will have rooms available if you walk in and ask for one, but making a reservation will help you settle down. Book, go to the hotel, go to the room, done! No worries about looking for a place to stay while you're jetlagged ...
I checked the China Airlines schedule, they have similar departure times from SF-BKK on their website. They arrive just after you do. Dep March9-arr March10!
OK Just three more days!!!
Freeler
PS You have mail...
Thanks Joe for the comments I know my big head is between my legs But I forgot to mention how persuasive she was she kept saying hello sexy man I'm a sucker for compliments and I'm sure she only say's it to me (HaHa) also what really did it on the way back to the hotel on the first night she said she was sorry she was very small (Tight ****) and this proved true beyond belief 1 finger was tight. I had to use KY gel and still go very very slow on entry she really moaned and made sure it was eased in slow. By the way she did tell me which rooms where the best ones in Eastiny.
Luke,
Good Luck.
juice.
My first trip to Pattaya was in February 2003. I LOVED it!
I started out in Bangkok and had a good time and also learned some lessons.
Don't believe the pimp. He'll tell you anything just to close the deal. He will lie about price and what the girls will do (my experience.) I paid almost 3000 baht for a beautiful young Thai girl. Price was more than what the pimp (driver) who drove me to the place said it would be. I also made the DUMB mistake of asking HIM if the girl would give me a blowjob. SO, I had a great fuck with a beautiful young girl, but, she cost more than I had been told and she did not give head. She also did not kiss. That's okay. I had a nice time and I learned something.
Late that night my American friend arrived in Bangkok. The next morning we went out. I found a cutie at a local bar. This time I asked the GIRL if she would give me a blowjob and she said yes. Took her back to my hotel (Siloam City Inn Hotel) and she was great.
Now for Pattaya. Took an afternoon bus to Pattaya. First night out I found my "home." Living Dolls! (the name of the bar) The girls out front are dressed in these little schoolgirl type blue and white outfits (white blouse and short blue skirt.) The staff inside is friendly (Ken, the manager/bouncer is very personable and is from Flagstaff, Arizona.) The girls serving the drinks wear the blue and white outfits. The dancers on stage are beautiful and some are fully nude. NOTE: The sign says the barfine is 500 baht; but if you want one of the "featured dancers" (never did figure out that one) or one of the "schoolgirls" serving drinks, the barfine is 600 baht. The girl is 1,000 baht for 2-3 hours back at your hotel. 2,000 for the night. You pay the girl directly, after the sex.
I took three girls in three nights, all from living Dolls. The first two were for short time. I gave each of them the 1,000 baht plus 200 tip. The third night I kept the girl for the night and had a wonderful time. About 2 hours into that session we were lying in bed in the afterglow of some great sex and she mentioned the subject of her spending the night. I told her it was up to her; that I'd be happy for her to stay but that I would not pay the additional 1,000 baht. We discussed it and I repeated that I would not pay. She stayed the night and tried REALLY hard to get me to pay her 2,000 in the morning. I stood my ground and she was cool.
My last night there I decided to rest and not take a girl. Went into the internet cafe at my hotel (Diamond Beach Hotel) and in walks this beauty who keeps looking at me. Long story short, she works at the bar next door, and I end up with her for the entire night. She works at an outdoor bar (right in front of the Diamond Beach Hotel); its one of those where the bar continually rotates. The barfine there is only 250 baht and I had a fantastic time with this girl and gave her only 1,000 baht for the night. Afterwards I felt like a cheapskate and I actually mailed her a card and $25 USD (that's about 1,000 baht.) Call me a sucker, but she earned every cent of it and treated me fantastic. Made me very happy.
I also had a daytime date with one of the cuties from Living Dolls. I asked her the night before if she wanted to go to the beach with me and my friend and his date. I asked her how much and she said "Up to you." She met me at my hotel at noon the next day and the four of us took a taxi to Jomtien Beach and had a great afternoon. I had a little cutie that I really liked with me all day. We ate lunch on the beach; I paid for her to get a massage and a henna tattoo. At the end of the day, we went back to my hotel. She came up to the room and I gave her 500 baht, thanked her and kissed her goodbye. A great date!
I can't wait to go back to Pattaya. I'll skip Bangkok next time.
Luke
In Thai "Luke" means kid. Did she knew you are a "luke" & she made you fall in love. Hey don't fall in love with a pattaya girl even she is a small. I heard here in Thailand they can be made small after palying too much wuith a small surgary. I don't know how much is the truth.
Yaah, one amazing truth is "you can not buy a girl friend in any other part of the world & can not get a girl friend (some time like lovers) treatment from hookers. This happens only in Amazing Thailand. Amaaaazzzzing na....
Najene, All,
A wee bit off-topic, but if you cross the IDL you might aswell understand it...
The InternationalDateLine explained:
http://aa.usno.navy.mil/faq/docs/international_date.html
Freeler;
I think I about have it now. I know when I get there. Anyway, thanx for your help. I'll be in the air about 26 hours from now.
I plan to get a room at the Flipper so anyone around look for a handsome "mature gentleman" named Jene with rarely combed hair and an impressive belly . I'll also be carrying plenty of condoms and viagra and an effective herbal alternative.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Freeler
[i]Najene
All the party sois run from BeachRoad to SecondRoad. Soi8 is in the heart of it. FlipperLodge in on Soi8. But so are 15 or so other hotels on soi8. I would not go for any hotel that has a nationality in its name. At the Danish Hotel (never heard of it) Danes will be all over. In a hotel like Flipper nationalities are more mixed. Freeler
PS You have mail... [/i][/QUOTE]
Soi 8 is in the center of the beer bar action. I counted 59 bar bars on it during my last trip. As for hotels I believe the number 15 is a little high. You have have seven major hotels located on the Soi; Flipper Lodge, Prince Hotel, Sunshine Hotel, and Eastiny Place are along the right as you walk from the beach to Second Road. On your left when you return towards the beach you have High Five, Sunbeam Hotel and the Eastiny Inn. Then a couple of smaller rooming house type places, like the Danish place.
I have always liked the Flipper Lodge the rooms are a good size, great staff and location. It can be a little loud and is not a Hotel if you want to go to sleep early. The best rooms are on the ocean side because they are away from the noise. You will pay about 80 baht more for one of them. It is loudest from midnight until 2:00 am, at 2:00 they turn off the music and lights in the bars so it is not a problem. Most of the bars seemed to say open well after two when I was staying at the Flipper Lodge in Jan.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Samus Aran
[i]You did not practice the 3f method! You went to see her more than once. This is the cardinal rule for true players in Thailand.[/i][/QUOTE]
Funny. You seem to think you have a lock on being a 'true player'. This may be your cardinal rule. And, many other mongers may also follow it. But, not all, and certainly, breaking it doesn't absolutely lead to destruction.
I figure Luke felt like he had a great time. And, to me, the cardinal rule is "Enjoy yourself." That encompasses your FFF rule if that's how you enjoy yourself. Of course, I'm a hedonist.
I'd like to point out a really good counter to your 'cardinal rule'. Read Skinless's recent adventures. I would consider Skinless a 'true player' (maybe you don't). He pretty much followed the spirit of FFF and note the boredom that appears towards the end.
[QUOTE][i]I dont understand why you would want to be involved with a Thai hooker?
[/i][/QUOTE]
A beautiful woman who is a sexual dynamo and treats you like a your the most important thing in the worl. Hmmm... I just don't understand it either. Whether it's healthy or not, it's certainly not something that would be natural to reject out of hand.
BTW, after reading his post, I don't see him saying that he is intending to get involved with his honey. Only that he was in heaven and can't wait to get back.
[QUOTE][i]Most of these girls already have Thai boyfriends or even other suckers like you living overseas and sending them $$ each month.
[/i][/QUOTE]
And some don't. Again, I didn't read anything about sending money to the girl. What post did you read?
[QUOTE][i]
Your next trip to Thailand should be a TRUE trip. That means no GFE and just plenty of 2hour episodes. I will repeat. DO NOT GET INVOLVED WITH THESE BAR GIRLS! Be nice t o them but always 3f them.
Heed my advice from somebody who has lived here for 5 years. Still single and Loving it in Thailand.
[/i][/QUOTE]
Freeler,
I think I understand what you tried to tell me before concerning not going to live in Thailand on a permanent basis.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Samus Aran on 3-07-03
[i]Heed my advice from somebody who has lived here for 5 years. Still single and Loving it in Thailand.
Samus Aran
Metroid Prime [/i][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Samus Aran on 1-06-03 In the Thai Women Opinions forum
[i]
Earthlings in Thailand:
Samus Aran here from Metroid Prime
A few questions for my upcoming landing in Thailand:
(SNIP)
If I have other questions I hope I can get a reasonable answer.
Signing Off,
Samus Aran
[/i][/QUOTE]
And, still...
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Samus Aran on 12-23-02
[i]
I just landed my spaceship in Pattaya. Looking for interstellar sexfreaks...
[/i][/QUOTE]
Huge inconsistency here. So much for the [red][b][i][u]true player[/red][/b][/i][/u]. But, what would you expect from someone who names themselves after a character from a lame ass video game. Oh. Now I get it. You play the video games where you go on a trip around the world!
Umm, PNG, I think in your lawyer-like attempt to dissect text, you've rather misinterpreted the big picture, despite having a solid grasp on the specifics. Yes, S.A. is playing a video character, (having worked his way down from more the outrageous to a somewhat milder one) hence the "spaceship landing" references. He also, and I say this as someone who's actually met him, truly does live in Thailand, and there's little doubt that in almost all variations, permutations, and implications, "play" is perhaps the single most appropriate verb one would apply to him.
Hey, if you say you've met him, and that he does live there. Fine.
But, his posts indicate otherwise. Why would someone who lives there, and who's lived there for five years post a request for basic info concerning an upcoming 'trip'?
Well:
I'm ready to go at last, just waiting for the airport shuttle. I've overpacked. I always do but I don't feel right otherwise. I just know that whatever I don't throw in is exactly what I need. I don't know why they feel compelled to do this but everyone I know just has to say "It's an awful long flight. How can you go that long without a cigarette?" As if I need to be reminded.
png,
he does live there...he's just playing around like always.
najene,
i'll be in pattaya from 3/17-3/27ish... if ur there, we can go down a couple of orange juices
tapioca
[i]Why would someone who lives there, and who's lived there for five years post a request for basic info concerning an upcoming 'trip'?[/i]
Because he was "playing" Samus Aran, and being his (or her) traveling bounty hunter self, landing in a place where there is much to hunt, and he was landing in his new incarnation. Reread the post understanding that he has at one point or another (under some now-banned names) answered every question he asked -- it's a totally facetious and amusingly ferocious commentary on the same questions that get asked here over and over...
Najene -- taking pretty much anything is overpacking, really. It's simple and cheap enough to just pick up what you need while you're there. Odds are you'll end up doing in anyway. :)
Have a blast!
Okay. My apologies then.
So, is Samus the infamous 'AdelZ' that gets referred to so many times?
You got it. And that's the third name he's managed to rile Jackson under, so he's found a somewhat kinder and gentler persona to play with.
Anyone have a shovel? I need to get my foot out of my stomach.
Now, some of the things in his post make a lot more sense. If this is the kindler, gentler persona, go figure that he pissed off Jackson :D
Tap;
I'll be there until the 19th. I plant stay at the Flipper but I tried to book a room too late to get a confirmation so I'm just keeping my fingers crossed . My name is Jene Meyer. I really don't worry about anyone knowing my real name. I'll be on my way to the airport in about 30 minutes.
Joe;
Yeah I know, but I'm a compulsulsive packer and there ain't no 12-step program for that. Unfortunately I am not a very organized compulsive packer so I pretty well have to dump everything out to find anything.
I am now going offline. Thanx for all of your help. Talk to ya all soon.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by najene
[i]Yeah I know, but I'm a compulsulsive packer and there ain't no 12-step program for that. Unfortunately I am not a very organized compulsive packer so I pretty well have to dump everything out to find anything. [/i][/QUOTE]
Hey. That just gives you reason to repack, eh? Should be reason to celebrate in your case ;)
HEY I MADE IT!
Tap;
I'm in 314 at the Flipper Lodge.
You guys were right. It's a good size room for 850 with sea view although the view isn't all that.
Najene: DO US ALL A FAVOR AND FUCK OFF.
(to Soi 7, Happy Bar, and fuck my little friend, tiny tits, shaved pussy and 1000 bt lt plus 200 bf)
You know what? It''s like a candy store. I can't make up my mind...yet. I'll probably wait until tomorrow when I've rested. I worked all day Friday, slept about 4 hours, spent the day packing Saturday and then flew forever. I will get mine though. I did get a suit ordered. Damn there are a lot of fine ones.
Najene: GO FUCK HER.
Iti s 7 pm in Soi 8, Pattaya and you are going to settle in with a book for the night. Fuck AT LEAST one f machine tonite. Otherise u will be sorreee. Go get em
I am coming to thailand (BKK) for 5 days of fun in couple of wks time, and was wondering if it is worth to extend my trip to pattaya as well. have been there once about 5 yrs ago but then with wife, so do not really know the scene there. How is it compared to BKK (price/quality)? Any good recommendations where to stay in decent place close to action (sub $40 range)?
Skinless,
I guess our friend Najene took your honorable and friendly advice and got himself some. I mean, no post in six hours:).
Najene,
'Welcome in Pattaya', may this holiday serve you well!
Let it be worth the wait...
Maybe its a good book. What a dork!
7 days later no longer in love just dissapointed I didn't fuck everything that moved while on my first trip to Pattaya. Looking at flights for a return match sometime in April ordered another stock of Vitamin V, intend to have a 3some as I suppose it would be harder to fall in love with 2 birds at the same time but knowing my past track record I would probably end up walking round Pattaya holding hands with 2 birds, it would look good at the airport though every other daft **** has 1 hanging round his neck me 2. What I need is the name and bar of the dirtiest bird in Pattaya and I will start with her first and forget the tame ones.
Hi Najene I took 2 books to pattaya and never turned a page and I fucked up big time. Bin em.
najene, arriving in the Sacred City of Pattaya and not fucking on your first night is illegal under Thai law.
I hope you haven't commited such a crime.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by knobrm
[i]I am coming to thailand (BKK) for 5 days of fun in couple of wks time, and was wondering if it is worth to extend my trip to pattaya as well. have been there once about 5 yrs ago but then with wife, so do not really know the scene there. How is it compared to BKK (price/quality)? Any good recommendations where to stay in decent place close to action (sub $40 range)? [/i][/QUOTE]
Given a choice between Bangkok and Pattaya I would take Pattaya every time. I think the quality is better and the price is lower. Most GO Go bar girls want 1000 bt short time 1500 all night. In Bangkok most Go Go bar girls start at 1500 baht short time. In Pattaya it is easy to find great beer bar girls for 500 bt ST.
As far as a place to stay near the action you have many choices. If you are talking about Walking Street, check out The Diamond Hotel Soi Diamond or The Grand Hotel Soi 14. In the Patayaland Area you have the Penthouse Hotel. I like to stay at the Soi 7 & 8 area, which is the capital of the beer bars. Here you have the Flipper Hotels and several others. See my post about Soi 8 from a few days ago. All these hotels will run well under your $40 dollar price range. Most less than $30 and some around $ 20 dollars per night.
The reason I like the Soi 8 area is that it is only a short ride to Walking Street and Pattayaland, or going the other way to the Soi 2 Big C mall area. Many nights I've walked from Walking Street back to Soi 8 (10 minutes) and found great girls along the beach. (500 bt).
Pattaya has more working girls than Bangkok the cost is much less and the girls are not as harden as Bangkok. Also many new fresh girls hitting the beer bars every week. Make the trip to Pattaya you will have a great time.
Sexreview
Thanks for comments sexreview
Any hints about convenient transfer from BKK airport to Pattaya?
If flight arrival around midnight, is the bus/shuttle to Pattaya, or do I need to stay overnight in BKK?
How about the English skills of girls in general in Pattaya; better/worse than in BKK?
Samus Aran aka ***** aka Adlez,
'Why are you giving out such inaccurate information?'
Your spaceship may have landed between the wrong set of legs in Pattaya, but that doesn't mean that everyone is stupid enough to make the same wrong decisions as you did, Mr. *****.
You are soooo obvious, it's beyond pathetic!
Knobrm,
Midnight is fucked-up arrivaltime anywhere.
Get a cab to BKK and stay the night (or two nights). Then go to Pattaya, a far better place for a second-time first-timer to the HolyLand than BKK!
I agree on Sexreview's view in this matter.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Samus Aran
[i]SexReview:
Why are you giving out such inaccurate information? How could you even say that there are more girls in Pattaya than Bangkok? Furthermore, your statement that the girls are "better quality" than in Bangkok doesnt hold weight. Come on... All the girls have the same equipment. You can get real lousy girls in both Bangkok and Pattaya. "Hardened and non hardened" Thats like saying the McDonalds in LA tastes better than the McDonalds in Phoenix. What you see in Bangkok (Nana, Patpong etc...) is just the tip of the iceberg. More of the ugly girls work in Pattaya than anywhere else would be a more true statement. There are by far more girls in Bangkok than in other place in Thailand. ....
Maybe sexreview you should do some more research before spewing out words that dont make sense. Also, maybe you should get out more. Your trips to Thailand seem to revolve around Pattaya and nowhere else. No wonder you report the things that you do.
Samus Aran [/i][/QUOTE]
Samus Aran,
Sorry if you don't want to here the truth. It is true you have more overall people in Bangkok, 10 million to less than 80,000. Pattaya has far more working girls. Pattaya also has many more beer Go Go bars. So the overall number of working girls is much higher.
Since most of these girls don't come from Bangkok or Pattaya they could work in Bangkok or Pattaya most pick Pattaya. You also stated that "All the girls have the same equipment. " which is true but how they use it and act is not the same. If that were the case why travel to Thailand, why not just stay in our own countries for girls?
My reports do revolve around Pattaya because after traveling all around the country of Thailand I have found Pattaya to be the best place in the country. About the girls being hardern look at the girls in Bangkok; almost all of them have cells, wear gold and speak English very well. These are not signs of a girl who is just off the farm. Unlike Pattaya weryou will find many giels each night who just hit the city. Also the quailty of life is just better in Pattaya. These are the facts sorry if you don't like them.
Sexreview
[QUOTE]Originally posted by knobrm
[i]Thanks for comments sexreview
Any hints about convenient transfer from BKK airport to Pattaya?
If flight arrival around midnight, is the bus/shuttle to Pattaya, or do I need to stay overnight in BKK?
How about the English skills of girls in general in Pattaya; better/worse than in BKK? [/i][/QUOTE]
Knobrm,
Many flights come into Bangkok at midnight; Northwest, Thai Air, etc, it is a busy time at the airport. Sometimes I go into Bangkok for a day or two others I go right to Pattaya. If you catch a taxi at the curb DO NOT TALK TO THE GUYS INSIDE THE BUILDING YOU WILL PAY MUCH MORE. Walk outside and up to the Taxi stand, the fare is around 1200 baht. You could also take Thai Limo to Pattaya for around 1500 baht. Since Pattaya is more or less a 24 hour city even at 2:00 am when you check in to your hotel things will be going on. English skills are very good in Pattaya, because it is a tourist town everyone seems to speak English. Only the new girls fresh from the country side will speak little or no English, but give them a few weeks and they will. You could speak no Thai and be very comfortable in Pattaya.
Enjoy
Sexreview
[QUOTE]Originally posted by LukeSkyWanker
[i]7 days later no longer in love just dissapointed I didn't fuck everything that moved while on my first trip to Pattaya. Looking at flights for a return match sometime in April ordered another stock of Vitamin V, intend to have a 3some as I suppose it would be harder to fall in love with 2 birds at the same time but knowing my past track record I would probably end up walking round Pattaya holding hands with 2 birds, it would look good at the airport though every other daft **** has 1 hanging round his neck me 2. What I need is the name and bar of the dirtiest bird in Pattaya and I will start with her first and forget the tame ones. [/i][/QUOTE]
Hey, Luke. Don't know if she is the dirtiest, but she is hot, and boy can she phuq!!! Her name is Maak (#37) and she works at Superbabies. She dances up a storm! #1 gogo dancer I have ever seen, and she dances this way in bed, too!!! She will be worth your (or anybody else's) while. Hey, Najene, why don't you give her a try!! She has an awesome smile. I think you will like her. Very Jai Dee!!! Later, dudes!!!
Cheers Phuquer for the tip she is now on my hit list for the return match, I am going to do some serious damage to the pussies of Pattaya the next time no more romance shit. I did enjoy myself tremendously even though I only managed 4 chicks in 8 days Aeroflot are offering flights from London to Bangkok via Moscow for 320 pound at the moment which is a good deal.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by LukeSkyWanker
[i]Cheers Phuquer for the tip she is now on my hit list for the return match, I am going to do some serious damage to the pussies of Pattaya the next time no more romance shit. I did enjoy myself tremendously even though I only managed 4 chicks in 8 days Aeroflot are offering flights from London to Bangkok via Moscow for 320 pound at the moment which is a good deal. [/i][/QUOTE]
I hope Najene tries her out so he can tell you if what I say is true or not. She's awesome. BTW, Najene, if you do try her out, can you ask her to take a photo for me (with clothes on, of course). I wanted to show one of my friends what she looks like. She has a smile from ear to ear. Luke, when do you think you might be headed back to Thailand? I was thinking about trying to return August or Sept. I know it is rainy, but it's the only time I might get off from work.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by LukeSkyWanker
[i]Cheers Phuquer for the tip she is now on my hit list for the return match, I am going to do some serious damage to the pussies of Pattaya the next time no more romance shit. I did enjoy myself tremendously even though I only managed 4 chicks in 8 days Aeroflot are offering flights from London to Bangkok via Moscow for 320 pound at the moment which is a good deal. [/i][/QUOTE]
LukeSkywanker,
Take my advice and [u]avoid Aeroflot at all costs![/u] They are very very unreliable and have a terrible habit of running flights when it suits them- the last person I warned not to use them was stuck at Moscow, on her way back from Bangkok, for three days and ended up selling her camera, walkman and some accessories to buy food because they only want US dollars. Its better to pay a few dollars more for a better airline that stops in a much more civilized place. [b]You have been warned![/b]
WELL, I WILL PROBABLY LOSE MY PLAYER STATUS NOW. i MET A GIRL WHO IS NOT A SEX WORKER AND WHO IS TAKING PRETTY GOOD CARE OF ME AND SHE IS HOT. I AM HAPPY WITH HER.
NAJENE: BREAKING THE RULES . like writing in caps!!
So was the book any good? What was it, Harry Potter? Did you check out the Crocodile Farm. And Ripley's is really koool. Especially if you are 10 years old.
Najene: please invlte me to the wedding as Freeler apart (he is a lost cause, poor guy), I am the sickest dude here. Enoy your vacation and don't drop too much acid or E.
Najene,
you wrote .... "WELL, I WILL PROBABLY LOSE MY PLAYER STATUS NOW. i MET A GIRL WHO IS NOT A SEX WORKER AND WHO IS TAKING PRETTY GOOD CARE OF ME AND SHE IS HOT. I AM HAPPY WITH HE..."
You lost your player status? You were reading books not being a player... I hope you are having a good time with that girl. If you think she is not a "sex worker" then why is she taking good care of you?
Are you by any chance giving her a little money?
juice.
Hey Juice lay off him. I fucked a girl who works at 7-11. Her friend is doing law just like little Lek, the world's greatest f machine. F I might enrol in Law there myself. Lek dresses like the total cheap **** she is. None of the girls in Bkk are full time leg spreaders. That's what they tell me. And me, Najene, and Irish Lager believe them.
Skinless,
"Up to you."
Juice.
Najene -- not to be disrespectful, but as I recall you've described yourself as being over 60 with a fairly large belly. Just how old is this "regular girl" and does she just have a major thing for substantially older men who don't speak her language and who are only going to be around for a couple of weeks? You say she's a non-pro, but you sure managed to hook up with her pretty fast -- which is hardly normal for non-pros in Thailand. Guess you must be quite a player after all...
Look, there's nothing wrong with finding a woman you like and enjoy and staying with her for all or part of your vacation, (though of course that is horrifying to the 3F crowd, who preach their gospel precisely to protect you from youself -- which in your case begins to seem warranted) but don't be foolish and mistake it for something it's not.
Bottom line -- you found a pro who says she's a good girl, and she's treating you nice and you're enjoying it. Good enough. Have fun. Just be sensible about it, ok? It's just as possible to be an old fool as a young one.
Hey Joe: whazzup? No fool like an old fool.
If their English is good.......
Pattaya is an emotional minefield, much more dangerous than Cambodia. There should be BIG SIGNS, big policemen under the stewardship of Generalissimo AdleZ warning us off it. People's emotions are so fragile. There are many good women in Pattaya but cold reality is harder than steel.
Najene: be careful. Be very careful. Send no money, no gold shops. Keep us informed.
Najene,
:(
Please read your mail!
Very sad Freeler...
Hey guys,
Just understand the definitions of few words while you are in Pattaya.
Good Girl - All girls here are good girls because they don't beat you. They beat thier Thai boyfriends or husband. Sometime see the Thai TV soap opera if you can not see the actual converstaion betweeen Thai woman & Thai Man. They are worst after you tie up with them. Yes after you tie with them permanent their behaviour will be same possasive with you also as anywhere else in the world. Then you forget even going to bars.
Non-Pros - In Thailand pros exist only in the who_re houses which are our of our reach. That is for Thai poor class in 200-300 baht. The girls in Pattaya are providing you companionship & entertainment service. You cann't fu_ck them at your wish. They will do that if they like that (for the money or something else, it is thier choice).
Take care very well - This is Thai culture to take care very well with smile. You will feel further better you have problems with langguage & knowledge of the area.
The moral is be happy & enjoy, don't get trapped.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Samus Aran
[i]
Is this "hot" thing staying with you for free?
You must be the first guy in Pattaya to find an associate who doesn't charge. Hurray!
Samus Aran [/i][/QUOTE]
Nothing is free in this world not even your wife to whom you get married.
One of my friend never pays to any of the girl for sex. He have sex with better girls like college students or working (no bar girls) woman which are his friends. But to maintain friendship he spends much more money than me which I spend in Pattaya going to MPs or Bars. His telephone bill is more than one time charge of Sabaidee.
I know one girl whose all utility bills are paid by different boy friends with whom she goes for movie, dinner & may be one time for sex in a month.
You may find a GF who will not charge you for sex or for one day but she knows it very well that you will pay much more than normal fee.
This is Thailand where you can get a pros in role of girl friend even some people marry them.
So, it is your choice you want to be a free bird or tie to some good girl of Pattaya.
I guess Najene won't be taking that pic of #37 at Superbabies for me after all! :( Oh well. I hope he's OK. And I hope his girl doesn't cause him too much damage, financially or emotionally. Take care, guys.
Heyn Guys;
Yes she is staying for free, as free as any woman can be. Also she was introduced by a friend who I have known for a while. She is 35, a divorcee, been in Pattaya a month, and no more dangerous than American divorcee. What I like is that she is Thai and treats me better than any American woman would. When I say "hot"I need to clarify that this is by my standards. She only costs me what I have been spending on dinners for both of us and a couple of trinkets and a Thai CD.
Seems to be divided opinions about Pattaya vs Bangkok.
As you recommended (if I get my trip confirmed), I think I will stay overnight & maybe one more day in BKK and go to Pattaya for 2-3 days after that. good way to test the difference also.
I was looking at the hotels that sexreview mentioned from web. penthouse seems to be more boutique style and equipped for fun, not a family place I guess. Any opinions/experiences about it, is it OK? Spacier premier and pattaya rooms looks OK.
How do you compare Diamond and Flipper hotel, are they also mainly for clientele traveling for the hobby?
How is modem connectivity in all these hotels?
I guess there are some shuttle services from sukhumvit area to pattaya. Any recommendations of those?
Knob
Knobrm,
Lose the thought of taking a shuttle service.
Just go to Ekamai BusTerminal by bus, skytrain (or taxi:(), and hop on the bus.
Safer, cheaper and more comfy too!
Search these pages for details.
Flipper provides 35 yo divorced heart throbs so maybe worth a go.
Ekkami is a few Skytrain stops from Nana is Soi Suk so maybe worth a go.
Hotels are for bonking so internet cafes might be worth a go (30 bt an hour in Pattaya, some will let you use your laptop)
Pattaya ladies are cheaper so maybe worth a go.
[quote]originally posted by knobrm
[i]seems to be divided opinions about pattaya vs bangkok.
i was looking at the hotels that sexreview mentioned from web. penthouse seems to be more boutique style and equipped for fun, not a family place i guess. any opinions/experiences about it, is it ok? spacier premier and pattaya rooms looks ok.
how do you compare diamond and flipper hotel, are they also mainly for clientele traveling for the hobby?
how is modem connectivity in all these hotels?
i guess there are some shuttle services from sukhumvit area to pattaya. any recommendations of those?
knob [/i][/quote]
whatever you do don't take the shuttle service. first they pack you in very tight, second they go around to several hotels and pick up everyone. it is not a fun trip. the express bus for 90 baht each way is faster and more room.
if you take a meter taxi to pattaya you can get a rate of about 1000 baht for the trip. but don't use the taxis that work for the hotel, like the ones at nana hotel they charge 1500 baht plus the toll fees (80 baht).
very fee hotels have connectivity in the rooms, but internet cafes are cheap and have high speed lines to use.
about hotels in pattaya, most of them have sex travelers in them. the closer you are to the action the more of a players place it is. penthouse is 100% fun and all sex players. diamond hotel is more sex travelers than anything else. the flipper lodge is in the middle of the beer bars but it has many guest that are not in the game. if you want to stay at a more main line hotel try places like the pattaya center hotel soi 12. at the pattaya center hotel you will have to deal with the tour groups. you have three choices in pattaya; stay in the sex player hotels, stay in the hotels the tours use, or the high line hotels that the normal tourist think are a deal. hotels like the marroit, and hard rock have many non sex tourist in them but at $80 to $100 per night plus joiner fees not worth the price.
Due to my fucked up last trip (heart swelled more than knob) I have been lurking the websites checking hotels etc that look like they fit the criteria for my next trip to sex olympics. I have found Tims beer bar has 3 rooms this is very close to Diana inn where I stayed last time on 2nd road the big room with jacuzi is 900 bht and looks good if it is on the premises I wouldn't have far to walk with girls from the bar and maybe qualify for a inhouse discount. it looks like an ideal place to stop me getting hooked again and situated in a good spot has anybody else stayed here or can offer any additional info. so far Lek and Maak are on my hit list for return match.
knobrm, for a few reviews about the Penthouse htl (and many others) take a look at this site:
http://www.freelancerbar.com/cgi-bin/review/view.pl?event=MainPage
I've never stayed at the Penthouse, but last time I was there I visited it to check it out and I was shown one of the rooms. It looked fine. This htl is especially designed for pussy hunters. It's a bit overpriced, but it definitely has some facilities that you can't find in any other htl in Pattaya.
By the way, Pattaya is better than BKK in every sense. BKK is full of pussies, but apart from that it's a crapy city.
sexreview's assessment of the differences between BKK and Pattaya were spot on.
Knobrm,
Count me in on the Pattaya side of the ledger. I much prefer it over Bangkok. You can at least inhale air instead of bus exhaust. Lots more bars and girls as well. I thought the beer bars were a much better value for ho's than the go-go bars (over priced IMO) and Pattaya has a shitload of beer bars. Unbelievable!!!
When I was in Pattaya (January) I stayed at Eastiny Place and was glad I did. Good value for the money. Great location. Decent rooms. I did not see any hotels in Bangkok that I thought were as good a place to stay (all things considered).
[QUOTE]Originally posted by LukeSkyWanker
[i]Due to my fucked up last trip (heart swelled more than knob) I have been lurking the websites checking hotels etc that look like they fit the criteria for my next trip to sex olympics.
........ .... .... .... ... .. . [/i][/QUOTE]
We feel very sorry to hear this type of statment particularly from a member after his trip, even after having so many gurus here to advice on the dos & don'ts while in Pattaya. I see this with a wonder surprise as this is becoming a repeatative cycle.
Hey Najane are u listening ?/?/?/?/?
[QUOTE]Originally posted by najene
[i]and no more dangerous than American divorcee. What I like is that she is Thai and treats me better than any American woman would. [/i][/QUOTE]
here is the catch.
what I got to believe now
some people who are not well respected (by woman) or can not get a woman in thier own country particular in USA
(I include myself also in these type of people as me too have to buy sex, becuase I am not liked by girls as a friend even in Thailand)
get trapped when they come to Thailand as Thai Girls behaviour if entirely different.
but my warning ... ... ... ...
They are also same dangerous like US woman but after you fix with them
beware ... .... ..... ...........
Check your "dow" before you make a decision or show your intention of love with them.
God bless you
hello Khun don't feel sorry for me I admit I fucked up but what does it matter I had a great time with the bird and believe it or not she did not ask for money or goods. I could have had a lot more birds but also I could have ended it up with a dose to, on my return trip I will try to do better and "Shoot more Targets" but if I end up getting hitch again as long as I can deal with the after effects no worry.
me and Traveler checked into Penthouse today...oh fuck YEAH...I've been in the rooms before to take a look but never stayed...we were going to get a suite but I dun think I can take a shower in front of Traveler. The shower is RIGHT BETWEEN the two beds and there's NO wall...there are no walls or cover between the two beds either...basically, u can hear and see ur buddy fuck the shit out of their ho from ur side of the bed. I'm just a shy lil tapioca...although I wouldn't mind fucking in the rooms with him, showering is too private for me.
rooms are so kewl...many many toys heh heh...
havn't been taking pics though dammit...i have a feeling i might lose my camera if i take it out with me..
tapioca
Take the damn pics, Tapioca! LOL. Everytime I have to tell you that. That's what the camera is there for. You'll regret it if you come back without lots of cool pics. Your trip costs you a few grand and you got the camera largely for your trip, and the camera is a few hundred bucks, so use it lol. Just tell your friends to remind you not to leave it somewhere.
But I can see your dilemma. I did lose an Elph camera on my last trip. But you know I travel with like 9 cameras. Digital, APS, 35mm, DV, Polaroids, cheap cameras etc. Getting a carrying case with a strap for your digital camera helps to prevent you from losing/scratching it. 2 megapixel is enough Tap lol, you got a 3.2 megapix and it is too expensive to carry it everywhere lol.
(And those pics will come in handy for your website.)
LukeSkyWanker, if you "had a great time with the bird" I'd hardly call it a fucked up trip. A missed opportunity, losing your head, coming close to making a big mistake, etc., maybe, but there's no need to beat yourself up or revise your opinion of your own enjoyment. Your post when you returned sounded like you enjoyed yourself immensely -- that's what really counts in measuring things. Now you're at the point where you can see that you were probably played -- big deal, as long as you enjoyed it while it happened, figured it out, and got out without damage. Admire the girl for her skillz, be happy with the good time you described, and just be more aware and careful your next trip.
After browsing the sites of various hotels I also got curious about the Penthouse and sent a reservation there for my trip; asked for mini suite.
Based on your look, is it worth the extra $ compared to the cheaper rooms?
BTW, can anyone tell how frequently express buses from Ekamai to Pattaya leave?
i found this in bkk hotels section; any comment from those who know the place? scares the shit out of me...
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i read on a forum (i think bangkok tonight) about a guy who stayed at the penthouse hotel and found out about a "peepcam" hidden in his room. the story goes like this "he went to the bathroom and started to brush his teeth and wandered back into the bedroom and flipped on the tv. scrolling through the channels, he selected the "in-house" channel where you can see the girls in the go-go downstairs. while he was standing there brushing his teeth, one of the girls started to imitate him by moving her index finger back and forth simulating his brushing strokes. the guy then started waving at the tv and she started to wave back! the guy figured that the hidden cam must be in the mirror'd ceiling above his bed, but didn't want to rip everything apart to prove his point. he checked out of the place shortly thereafter." this was fairly recent too.....
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2nd day in Pattaya:
man, my fourth trip here only and it's getting boring I think. I can totally see where Samus is coming from. Since Traveler brought his own sand to the beach, I had to find one of my own last night. Went into a couple of gogos near the Penthouse but nothing going on. Traveler's urging me to take a gurl but I want to take my time...finally ended up at World Wide a gogo where Traveler's chick use to work at. She recommended a gurl there with blonde hair, square face, but a nice fuckin' body...hun dee mak mak...
If her face wasn't so damn square, and if she didn't have a small mustache, she would be a 7/10. Well, I fucked her...but not from the front...told her to just get on her knees and hold on to the metal bar (its used for the handcuffs)...boom boom boom...finished...told her I only wanted ST and she was kinda dissapointed, told me I should have told her I wanted that in the first place. Put 1,000bht in her pocket and escorted her downstairs..
On a brighter note, I'm beginning to really like the Penthouse for these sex trips. You can turn on only these red dim lights in the room and it's just great fucking a gurl..this, along with all the mirrors, is just fantastic atmosphere.
When Traveler's chick leaves, we've decided to get 2 chicks each and have a big orgy in one of these rooms (prob his cause I don't want to sleep on cum). I told him I would pay for my time only and not for 2 gurlz...cause if I have 8 hands on me, 4 tongues, and 8 breasts to touch, i'll be done in 5 min.
tapioca
STATUS REPORT?
What's going on in Pattaya? I am close by and thinking of stopping in.
Have the heards of European Holidayers left yet?
The weather?
And of course, the women?
3rd day:
what a weird trip so far... first, i meet the my friends from back home in Bangkok...and yesterday, I was just getting some food at a stall and guess who was right next to me ordering the same thing?...Jen...except she was like 15 lbs heavier. haha...
another first for yesterday, we went into boyztown and went into a boyz gogo...yeah, u KNOW ur bored in Pattaya when u decide to step in to one of those places. actually, it was traveler's chick that decided to go in and we just followed. if u guys don't mind gay TBs (thai boyz) doing their impression of a TG gogo dancer while wearing white underwear, this place ain't dat bad...good music and a small dancefloor. for u freaks out there, barfine is 300bht...
Picked up a service gurl at Electric Blue a gogo...it's a new place cause they just opened like 3 months ago. actually, i didn't really pick her up, i just told her i didn't want to pay the 600bht barfine and if she wanted to see me after work, she can come to my hotel. she showed up! there were some hotties though in that place..
pretty good fuck for a service gurl, kinda surprised me. took her LT, gave her a 1,000bht in the morning..actually, afternoon...she left around 1pm. the hard part is getting rid of this gurl. she wanted to come by after work again today but i told her she better not cause i'll have another chick by then. I got 2 pics of her!
in the afternoon, I went into VIP massage to get an oily..i thought hjs were offered here but to my surprise, she didn't even get close to my tapioca stick. grrrr
stupid shower didn't wash it all off so decided to hit a soapy..didn't want to goto soi 2, so went into that soapy off walking street. saw a hottie, paid my 690bht, and off i went...stupid byatch wanted 2,000bht for a f.uck so i went with the 1,000bht bj...ok i guess...but at least all the oil that was left over was washed off...
well, that was an eventful day. damn, it's boring here in PAttaya...
Tap are you online now lol?
I bet someone told Jen you are there and she sat next to you deliberately. I mean what's the chance of that happening by coincidence? I bet she wants to see if you still want to get together. Why don't you just bang her for old times sake.
Sad to see some of these Thai girls put on the pounds. I had a model type girl I had sex with in BKK and when I went back 2 months later she got fat.
I gotta put the word out to the Thai girls to not crash diet or take pills to lose weight as those are temporary solutions. They blow up like balloons later. Thai girls are not naturally fat. Just exercise a little and eat not one but three meals a day (some girls tell me they eat 1 meal a day).
Tap has said everything of importance.
My girl is quite ok (see BKK section) but I am getting used of it. Need some new thrills, therefore her time will be over soon.
Some really nice chicks around here. No need for barfine, walk around and they will run into you.
Keep you posted on new events
The outcome of Pattaya trips
after first trip
sad, fall in love, have great opinion about the girls in pattaya
after second trip
very enthustic and happy, enjoyed a lot, no love, have opinion about great attitude of the girls
after third trip
not very enthustic but happy with time having fun, enjoyed a lot, not even think about love
after fourth trip
Ohhhhhh so boring, (Tap)
after 10-20 trips
Shit
Samus Aran
the gurlz arn't boring...just that there ain't shit to do here. gurlz are still great and cheap...1000bht LTs
DJ,
nobody told her anything...we met on the streets buying the same fruits...
last night was kinda fun...traveler ditched his chick and we went trolling...found ourselves at Amazon gogo on walking street. we both eyed the same gurl for once and bought her a drink...asked her if she'll do us both at the same time but she declined. then we asked her to choose only one of us...she kept laughing and couldn't choose...although eventually she did choose tapioca, it wasn't because of my dashing good looks, my manly voice, or my bulging...arms.
so i paid her bf and wanted to go eat...she said she was hungry too but i dun like to bring chicks with me unless i'm going to go f_uck them. told her we would be back at midnight to pick her ass up.
went to FLB bar...didn't see any cuties there...most "hostesses" were on the chubby side and only about 2/8 chubby ones were decent. BUT..they were fun to hang out with and play games with.
anyways, picked that chick up, went back to the room and was about to do ST with her when she said that she never had a man before...DOH...tapioca doesn't like to do virgins...then after a big fiasco and misunderstanding, tapioca needed to bring in Traveler to appease the situation...told her she can stay but no boom boom...she stayed until about noon, then i sent her away...
about 3pm right now...what to do ...what to do...sigh...
going to pick up a freelancer at marines later on...damn, that place is packed with cuties...if u guys don't mind the 130bht drinks, it's still a great place!
tapioca
samus,
ur other handle is Khun?
tapioca
In wondering why he does not have his senior status.Kinda srange both Tapioca and Joe_Zop liked Samas A in person.
Kinda sad love between Jen and Tap did not work out. Oh well, the course of true love... And she put on weight. Porbably sitting at home, eating chocolates and waiting for her sailor boy to cme back.
Good one about the virgin go go dancer. That has to be a first.
Samas: spoil yourself and Taplioca and bring him to the park in Korat to play with the ducks, or should that be f****.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by khun
[i]after 10-20 trips
Shit
Samus Aran [/i][/QUOTE]
Sorry Guys
It should be read as
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after 10-20 trips
"Shit" - Samaus Aran
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I did not try to use the handle of SA. I know after someday he will have new one as somebody will cut his old handle (kit wa kau loo duay)
SA - become senior before getting the status caus your post always are full of shit. Learn to shit at proper place.
Tap - think you need few more trips to reach to status of SA.
Freeler is real freeler. (not free like americans - "free under dictator")
Guys be alert while at public place. War has begun. Most of the people don't know difference between amaericans & europians. All white skinned are farangs & so are americans.
Enjoy with care.... ... .. .
[QUOTE]Originally posted by tapioca
[i]...although eventually she did choose tapioca, it wasn't because of my dashing good looks, my manly voice, or my bulging...arms.
tapioca [/i][/QUOTE]
Ohhh god, amazing, even Saddam don't think so about him. May be he also claim "Ahhhe Bush don't like me because of my dashing good looks, my manly voice, or my bulging...arms.
lol
picked up a beer bar gurl yesterday...damn, she was cute..200bht bf too... i got a couple of pics of her...too bad none of them were of the xxx kinds cause she wouldn't let me..she had a fuckin' great body with big, firm tits, small waist...sigh...oh well...maybe tonight i can take a nekid pic cause i already gave her 200bht for the bf again...
Traveler picked up a cutie too from Bubbles but she was just too damn bush league after the stunt she pulled last night...I'm sure Traveler can elaborate on that.
oh, i paid 1,000bht for mine LT...no bitches or complaints about tip or more money...beer bar gurlz r great!
samus, how can u tell me to go back after what u saw happen near Nana plaza...i can't show my face around bkk for at least another week...
since war has started, i am changing my "ma jaak america" to "ma jaak china, pen con jene"....that should do it.
tapioca
Tapioca,
'she had a fuckin' great body with big, firm tits, small waist'
Bla, bla, bla...
But: Was she a good fuck, dammit!
However, you finally went from over the top GoGoGurlz to BarGurlz.
I am now awaiting your first BeachRoadGurlPick-upPost with appropriate impatience.
Peace bro:)
philo
I don't believe this site or at least this thread is the place to attack or praise the President. It serves no purpose other than to start in fighting on the site. Better to talk about the effects of what is happening with Thailand and other sex destinations throughout the world.
One major positive is the airlines have relaxes the rules and the no exchange ticket polices are gone. I know that when I purchased tickets a few weeks ago I had to leave on a Monday, because leaving on Saturday added three times to the cost. Now I can exchange my tickets and pay about $20 dollars, have extra days in Thailand and better flight times. I believe between the war and the Fu problem Thailand is going to become even a better bargain than it has been. I am even thinking about no making a reservation for a hotel in Pattaya just come to town and bargain for a better deal.
Looking forward to being in Pattaya again within a few weeks, I’ve been away to long now a little over two months. So lets not look at the down side and only at the upside which is what the site is really all about. Finding and getting girls throughout the world.
Sexreview
The airlines have relaxed policies, but in my case it was only pertaining to the reticketing fee of $150 for postponing my BKK trip. In my case it meant that if I chose to leave on a weekend day, I still had to pay the additional $200 or whatever it is. For instance, I was thinking of going mid-May instead because that would give me more time to save up, plus with my business I am apt to have more money then naturally anyway....but because the fare is more at that time I will have to pay an additional $80 to do it. But yes, I guess that's better then an additional $150 on top of that. Hate to put it off longer though, I'm really excited about going. I'll have to think about it. Just making this post to let everyone know that not all airlines are as good about just letting you go whenever as was the good fortune of the previous poster.
Pattaya Music Festival on 21-23 March
Just for information for the mongers in Pattaya
Pattaya North Road leading to beach road & near Lotus, & beach road will be highly crowded after 7-8 PM beacuse of Music Festival. Avoid using song thew on these routes & walk.
Enjoy
Freeler,
i walked up and down beachroad for the last 3 days...ain't one "gurl" I can even stand next to within 5 min let alone take her germ infested self into my play pen....i use the term "gurl" lightly...my gawd...it's pretty ugly out on that side of the street.
ok, u want details eh (wait till u see the pics of this chick...she's really that hot)...she's like 5'1", 105 lbs, white skin, bit tits, nice round ass, small waist...
so we went up to the room right after I picked her up again from the beer bar. had her sit in front of me when I started the thai porno vcd i bought on beach road...btw, dun ever buy a thai porn, the two i bought really sucked..
she kept watching it so i started taking off her clothes...she wasn't wearing much so it only took like 30 seconds. she's like a 32C so those breasts sat perfectly within my hands. Did I also mention she pierced her left nipple? started sucking on her piercing and my tongue piercing got stuck in her nipple piercing...pretty funny...she unhooked it and off i went again...
she flipped me over so now she's on top and started kissing me on my neck...then down...down...until she tasted the tapioca shtick. ok bj...not great...butpleasant.
put on my durex condom and she started riding me. if there's one bad thing about this chick, is that she can't fuck on top...it kinda hurts when she was grinding so i turned her over...while i was going at it, she kept looking up on the mirrors on top...i guess she's never seen herself...anyways, turned her over for doggy and finished. i love watching her body when her ass is in the air.goddamit, i love those breasts...
did her again the next morning...called Traveler and he told me that my chick from that Amazon gogo (the supposed virgin gurl) was sleeping right next to him. Apparently, that chick came by the hotel last night and called Traveler thinking he was me...Traveler protected his boy from an embarrasing moment and invited her to his room. I'll let Traveler tell the rest of the details.
so I give her another 1,000BHT for her troubles and sent her away...oh, her sister is equally hot..same mother, different father.
traveler was going to pick her up last night and we were going to go for a sister-sister orgy but her sister was with somebody else already.
tapioca
point taken, sexrewiev....
anyway, the Deus In Machina has removed the post. Let it so be ....
Tapioca,
I know what you mean about the LOS becoming a little boring. My first extended visit (not one of my weekend expeditions while working in the area) to Thailand was last January. A friend of mine wanted to check it out and we made a plan.
My friend could only stay about 10 days but I planned to stay a couple of weeks longer. We flew into Singapore and traveled overland to Phuket. Checking out Kuala Lumpur (the capital of malaysia) on the way up the peninsula. There is also much fun to be had in KL but it's much more expensive than in Thailand.
Our first stop in Thailand was Hatyai. We only planned to spend one night and then head to Phuket but we met a Malaysian dude and he convinced us to stay a second day.
The first day we walked around the city and checked out a few Kareokes. Found some entertainment for the night and settle in for some fun. It was good. My buddy wasn't able to sleep on the bus up so he was to tired to do anything but sleep.
The second night I was going to skip the entertainment for a good nights sleep. My buddy wanted to check out a show that night before turning in and a couple of girls came over to sit with us during the show. He ended up arranging for his girl to come by his room after the show. I wasn't the least bit interested in mine. His was a babe.
When we walked out of the hotel in which we saw the show I noticed a few kareoke nearby. We walked over and checked one out. There I saw Ping. She was the cutest thing I had seen in a long time. She was Chinese Thai. White skin and a beautiful face. I had to take her.
My buddy thought I made a good choice so Ping, my buddy and I headed back to our hotel. Ping and I when to my room and got down to business. She was cute but boy was she a flake. No kissing, no BJ. Just boom boom. OK. Even though she was weird there was something about her I really liked. It was really exciting. We did the act and I took a shower. Unlike most Thai girls, she didn't take a shower before or after. Like I said, she was weird.
Usually I go to sleep after one shot late at night but like I said there was something about her and I had to have another but she wasn't having none of it. She just wanted to sleep. I got pissed and told her to get out. At that point she came around and I had another great time but I still wasn't done. We had another disagreement and this time she did leave.
Well now I had a problem. I was extremely horny because of her but it was about 4am. I went down to the lobby and one of the bell hops saw me. Asked me if I wanted some company and he made the arrangements. The girl arrived about 20 minutes later. She was ok. About a 7/10 looks. 8/10 body.
We went to my room and she went to take a shower. While she was in the shower there was a knock on the door to the room. Guess who, Ping was back and wouldn't leave. I paid the other girl and she left and Ping stayed even though I didn't think I was going to get anything from her.
I laid down thinking we were just going to sleep but I got round three. What a great night. What a weird night.
The next morning she left and my buddy and me headed for Phuket. (to be continued)
Oops. I didn't mean to write a narative. I guess that should have been in the Hatyai section. I'll continue it in the Phuket section. The Pattaya parts of this story would be parts 7, 13 and 14.
Tap,
How long do you plan on staying the in Thailand? I had a death in the family and my plans had to change. I may be over there next week though.
By the way, have you told Traveler about my adventure with you know who?
Duckman
What happened the last days ...
Got rid of the sand that I brought from BKK to Pattaya. Big tears from her side, known stories of great and real love ... I am immune to that, so it was payday, but when I tried to gave her money she first refused to take any from me. But I insisted to keep it business and she finally took it with a small note that I should come by whenever I want or when I am in need for a free BJ. She is really good on that.
Took a real cute one from Bubbles, face 9/10, buddy 9/10, breats a bit to small but nice hard nipples. Unlike the evening before, she was more on the professional side. Very tough but still nice somehow. When we finally went home she told me that she is tired and wants to sleep. Made clear that I am paying the bills only when get rewarded for it, so the thing went on.
Was real good, very nice, good and long foreplay. As the action started she was so hot that I had steam on the mirrors around my bed. But after about 10 min. she grabbed my magic stick - thinking she wanted to check the condom - raised her hand and it was red. What a shit, immediately had a shower with desinfection and went to sleep cause was really pissed of. In the morning expected some action to get even for bad night, but nothing, only wanted to sleep. Got her out of the room and before she could ask for payment I told her that I already placed some money into her purse, but the the full amount cause I got not the full service. Payment always depends on performance !
Said so and went away with Tap.
In the afternoon went to the soapies. Just a few cute one.
Sabairoom got 270 and 182, Sabailand 005 and 176, Sabai Dee just 005.
So I took 176 from Sabailand and Tap another chick. Tap is a shy guy, so we had different rooms instead of a bigger one with two beds and two tubs.
Girl was real fun, very nice attitude and real hot in bed. She knows how to move. Usually Tap scares to share a room with me, cause I always need some extra time and his girl might come to my side to get an extra shot. But this time no need to scare, girl got me off below the average hour.
She also told me, that the fine at Sabailand is 5000 for as many days as you want. Payment for the girl has to be negotiated with her. She also offered me to meet me at her free day, cause I told her that I intend to do her all night and that she couldn't work after that. Not sure if she will come for free but it sounded like that.
So we went to the bar of Tap's girl where I wanted to pick up her sister (18). She was already with someone twice my weight, but only half my muscles. So took one that Tap and his girl picked for me. She was nothing I would have picked, face 6/10, body 8/10, brain 0/10 but acting like she did it all. Telling Tap that I still have doubts about her performance back home, but bf her and there we go.
Shower, a bit foreplay, action started, checked my condom after five minutes and put my hand back on the sheets just to see my fingerprints. Shit, again a red one. Three in one week is far too much. Never had any in almost 19 years, so I was really pissed, Sent her home and headed to Walking street, checked a few Gogos, Tony's (drinks are 180 B now), Marine and some bars, but nothing to my liking. Went home around 5:30 am to watch the news about the war.
Suddenly the phone rang, Tap's virgin is there, forgot his room no. (really ?), but remembered mine. Don't know what to do. Let her come upstairs to avoid asking her the staff which room Tap stays. Ordered some food cause she is hungry and talked a bit to her -she mentions money quite often - to release Tap. Keeping him out of trouble, cause he is downstairs with his bar girl (the pierced one). Let her sleep in my bed without touching her, sleep there too, then take a shower, phone rings, Tap is there, she got to go to toilet, locks it, my wallet inside, she comes out, I go back, check my money (always count it in advance), 500 B gone.
Can't prove it, so no way to get it back right now. But when we went downstairs she grabs my hand, also wants a kiss for goodbye. Seems that secondary target (me) has become primary target. That way I might get back my money. Will probably do her and payment will be reduce.
BTW, she told me, that she choosed Tap instead of me that night because I haven't shaved. I always shaved before action starts, so not that itchy for the girls. Small things can have great impact. Secondly I am european, Tap is asian, which she prefers.
So Tap, come back down to earth !
Got to go now, Tap is waiting for me at Sabairoom. I want to take 005 from Sabailand right now and we will see what Tap is up to.
Tapioca,
Nice one! I know I will get your pix, you sent some before, unlike Joe_zop, who is all promises, no delivery:(...
The_Traveler,
If you would have asked the girls to pay their BF, you would not have ploughed around in the red.
Try it, it REALLY works!
Shave, put on clean clothes and be nice: All the girls 'lub you too mut'!
Duckman,
i'll be in Pattaya until the 28th...email me if u'll be around
tapioca1688@hotmail.com
GREAT day today!!! not because i fucked anybody or had a bj or anything like that...went to the hospital in soi 4 and got my HIV test...N E G A T I V E
whew...i always thought the worst feeling in the world is when u see a cop with his lights on in ur rear view mirror while ur going 90mph on the highway....WRONG...the worst feeling in the world is the 30 min. wait and the unendless stares from the hospital staff when ur blood is being checked.
shit, stupid Traveler was making fun of me while i was in terror and was even trying to pick up the cute hospital staff...they were all just laughing, goofing around. After I got my results, the cute chick said I should just carry that paper with me so I can show all da pooying that I'm safe...
anyways, it's about 7pm...time to start the prowl.
marine last night was very very good...this is a trip of past memories cause i found my chick that i banged on my first pattaya trip 2 years ago. damn, pattaya ho's age fast in 2 years. scary shit...i couldn't believe i picked that thing up 2 years ago.
tapioca
Just curious, Tap, who is 'that thing 2 years ago'?
Freeler :
I remembered your post about letting them pay the bf first and giving it back to them when everything ok. Already took that in account. Prob is, I don't wanna be cheap or look like that. Secondly, within 19 years I had only one red, now with Tap I had three of them (one picked by Tap) within one week !
Was that night at Tony's, saw the dance show, one real cute katoey, when it came into my mind that katoeys don't go red. But this is no real alternative.
"pattaya ho's age fast in 2 years. scary shit"
Very interesting point by Mr Tapioca. Anyone agree or do they grow old gracefully??
MY my. We are all on line right now.
Story goes on ...
Went to Sabairoom to meet Tap. He took 805 I think and I had 176. Real nice face 8-8.5/10, body and breats looking good. Paid 1500 and went upstairs. Took off, she too ... boom ... what a battlefield.
Tits flat and hang down, belly looks like map of central bangkok.
Had the cleaning thing - she knows how to clean small traveler - and headed to the bed. Payed for it so I want to get it done as fast as possible. Got to concentrate on the face, don't look down or in the mirror ! Got a bj and took her from behind. Finally it's done... huh ... great relief, thoughed this half hour would never be over. My hardest job so far. That thing was really to prove that clothes can change a lot.
Went out with Tap. He met Jen and got private things to talk about. I used the time to check out all gogos (no boyz stuff) at Pattayaland.
Planet Hard Rock was the best, the rest got none or just one within my limits, Rodeo should be avoided due to the pushy mamasan. Just sat down and already the question for a lady drink.
ALL GIRLS should be avoided on all costs ! Now I know why they gave it that name, they have all kind of girls, mostly from the lower end and nothing from the upper one. I went in and was shocked. Never saw so many ugly girls on one place.
Boyz town is really a alternative to that.
Went to Walking Street with Tap and check most of the gogos, nothing really worth to look at. Went to marine disco and plaza too. Disco is too dark and plaza too many arabs.
Nevertheless, Tap found his girl from first trip to Pattaya. Got a real nice body, but the face, man, the face. Tap calls them butterface (but-her-face). She tells me that she and two of her girl-friends wanna come with me. They are all average, so I better went off alone and back home.
At 6:30am phone rings, Tap's virgin wants to come up. Since I want to come even I let her.
She immediately starts that financial support thing, I assume to sleep and off she takes into my bed. Just sleep, no action. Around 1pm I wake her up for a morning session, but she claims to have her period. Telling her that I do not belief, period is immediately over and now she wants to eat. I tell her that everybody of us got to work to buy some food. After a few words she understands that I need something in return, cause I'm no sugar daddy. She says, after a meal she would have more power, that's a good reason for me. Let her go buy some food.
After the meal, she undresses and goes to the shower, then in my bed. But what to do with a dead fish right next to you. Play a bit around but finally get pissed off. Really believe that she is a virgin, cause I had the strong intention to do her on all costs and she even broke me. No guy wanna do her like this.
Stand up, shower, dress up, outside, tell her to leave, small discussion, telling was last chance, need for change of attitude.
Suddenly she tells me to go back to the room to show me what she can do. Sorry, lucky draw already timed out. Just wanna get rid of her.
Went to the PIC Hospital at soi 4 with Tap. He is quite anxious about the outcome of his HIV test (about 1200). I use the time we got to wait to chat with this cute one at the reception. No boyfriend. She is real funny. Face 8.5/10, body hard to say, but should be around 8.5 - 9/10 at least. Inviting her for the evening. She says her sister from Lopburi is in town. Inviting her too. With four girl friends.
So Tap and Traveler will be out with 6 chicks tonight. Not the standard chicks from south Pattaya. Will see if we can get laid the first night. Doubt so, but when she asked how long I will stay, two weeks were a long time for her.
to be continued ...
Last night visited the concert at beach road with Tap and the girls. Had some food and bye, bye at around 2am. My receptionist asked me to do a HIV test. No prob, not scared like Tap :-)
Went to south pattaya then, Marine too dark, nothing really cute. After that Marine Plaza, just one nice one but already occupied. Then headed over to the disco opposite of Marine Plaza, quite dark as well and only left overs. We were not that much in need so went back home alone.
On the way home looked at the crap at the beach road. How can anybody take anything like this ? I think Freeler and skinless posted that they will go for 200-300. Still far too much. You got to pay me real big bucks to even touch one of them. Guys, are you blind ? I know, same equipment, but then you could also drive a Ford Aspire or a Yugo instead of a Benz.
Gonna seee what the evening will bring
Forgot to post, fine for Sabai Dee depends on time of day. If early afternoon it is 3 fines = 4500 at late evening 2 fines = 3000 baht.
Think Sabairoom is the same policy, due to same owner.
Maybe Tap and me will check out Susie Massage at Soi 4. Keep you informed.
WTF IS GOING ON. Why am I being flamed?
Traveler: Are you 2 doing anything else except getting HIV tests and saying all the Pattaya women are ugly (SA, looks like u have new recruits) I use them to fuck them, not to enter them in a beauty contest.
I thought Tap would follow on about Jenny the Burger Queen, as I am interested in that but no. All I get is flame. So maybe I fucked one or 2 cheapies from Beach Road. If it was any consolation, I was going to fuck the ugliest and oldest and Freeler is made of sterner stuff; he fucks anything female, of age and of warm blood.
May I laso say that many ladies moonlight there and in the malls i nbetween jobs and osme might be more disease free than the go go virgins (that has been the most enjoyable part of your joint reports to date).
I have a love hate relationship with Pattaya. This time, as I posted, I mostly just fucked the little lady from Happy bar in Soi 7, I also inspected her panties for sign of diseases and fucked her anyway even though I thought she might have a STI. I enjoyed listening to her explain how farangs tell her she is pretty coz she is small and when I asked her for a butt fuck, she said she was not a lady boy (metaphorical relief). They have their own status symbols and I am sure I am regarded as a prize catch, even if many of them will no longer let me fuck them.
I posted I thought one (1) of the Beach Road women I saw was pretty. But pretty women think they are owed a premium for that. The bb one was pretty the first time I saw her, plain ho type the second and downright ugly in the photo with the Czech guy. Thus my interest in Tap's Jen reflection.
As it happens, I am blind as love is blind and doing u know what makes you go blind. BTW, blind women are often great fucks. Not as good as dwarves or hunchbacks but, hey, no one is perfect.
How about some peace, love, unity, big tits, heavy metal and good reports. Is Tapioca off the ecstacy btw?
Now, Skinless, that wasn't a major flame -- just a poke. But really, trying to come to consensus on who or what is desireable or worth poking is a hopeless exercise -- and silly as listening to Thais discuss skin color. Everyone has different interests and standards. I generally wasn't attracted by the ladies I saw along the beach road either, but neither was I all that impressed by lots of the farangs wandering around, lots of whom were clearly highly impressed with themselves.
skin,
nobody's flaming u or freeler...we're not saying pattaya hos are ugly...although i would say 80% are...but who cares, i only need one chick a night...
tapioca's got a fever so that fucking sucks...jen stayed over last night and we tried to fuck but i couldn't do it with this splitting headache...
man down, man down...
tapioca
skinless :
I wasn't flaming you, I just said that most of the gurls at the beach look like crap to me. I am a bit picky too, know that.
If you like what you get, go on with it. They got to make a living too. It's like a discussion about taste, everybody prefers something different.
I like fresh flesh, not old warriors, who fought a thousand fights on that battlefield. Young and tight, clean skin, nice face, good attitude if possible, breast size doesn't matter (no flat ones). I am more out for fun and great sex (which comes together) than just getting it rubbed off. Could do it myself - have two healthy hands - and would rather do it than get it done by one of these at the beach.
Was at Hollywood last night with my receptionist. Now the question is not if I can get laid, it's just when. Got to wait till her sister leaves in about two days.
Also found a new challenge there. Two of the show dancers are really hot. Give them 10/10 for the body and 8.5/10 for the face. Keep you informed on how to approach them.
Nothing else going on so far. Tap got the flew but insists to be my wingman in the nights to come. Will see how he performs with such a handycap.
Ah so. Glad to see our two Pattaya warriors are back in action. Is that guy Najene alive or dead?
Is Jen a BIG secret? What is going on there?
Fresh flesh in Pattaya? You should be so lucky. Experience does count though probably the World War One veterans on Beach Road are not for everyone. Freeler did photo a passable one however. Also, fresh flesh must pound the beat before they get a bar. And some women prefer freelancing. Two times ago, Igot htis Indian looking cutie from Beach Road and fucked her out as she was no good. Great English, great body but a b&tch in ways.
Tapioca: how come you have a fever? Also, where does Jen work now (bar, freelance or go go)? I am very interested in her career, not so much in her.
Peace, love, unity, acid and heavy metal
Tapioca, Skinless and Newbie(9 posts?:(),
'Guys, are you blind?' Newbie asks...
Some folks think they have to have a good looking chick on their arm, because they think that other mongers will say:
'He must be a great guy to be with, just look at that good looking chick on his arm!'
I don't, I just want a gooood fuck.
And if it isn't any good, at least I didn't pay B2,000:( for it. But B200:D, or B300:) in Pattaya.
Last time around I had me two from BeachRoad. Two MasterFuckers, OK the first one was a nutcase, but #2 HAL-LE-LU-HA what a woman and she almost forgot to take the money...
'I like fresh flesh' Newbie continues and takes on Tapioca's virgin girl....
'I like fresh flesh'...
'Tits flat and hang down, belly looks like map of central bangkok.:('
Fresh flesh:(?
The B'1500':( you paid for that 'map' would have gotten me 4* solid fucks, a map of BKK printed on durable paper and a very good KingPrawnSweet&Sour with drinks...
*= 4:) in Pattaya, 6-8:D upcuntry...
Now, who's flaming who:D?
Peace.
Different guys have different tastes, and different priorities. Of course we will never come to a consensus as to what is desirable here. Some guys like big tits on a shapely body and some guys like petite chicks that he can bench press with. But that does not make discussing what one's preference is silly. After all this is a whor hunting site and if we are not going to talk about our whor preferences, what the heck are we going to talk about?
Some guys like fresh faced chicks while some like the idea that the pussy he's banging has been banged by thousands of men. Some guys just don't give a shit, a pussy is a pussy, so long as it gets you off. You're not looking for a wife, so why waste time?
If this is a site about automobiles we'd talk about what cars we like. Traveler likes the newer Hondas(but maybe he likes German cars) and skinless drives the classic Toyotas(a few generations of the same model). Freeler owns a junk car lot while tapioca likes the zero mile new cars(whether the odometer has been rolled back or not we do not know). Some guys don't give a shit as long as the car have a Nintendo built in.
So the DJ surfaces again. Where, nobody knows. I think you miss the Z man. :)
Freeler is happy keeping it real. I like the name Freeler Road. It's got a nice ring to it. :)
skinless is doing acid??? Damn! I hadn't done that in years.
Tap, When I get sick I buy a bottle of JD and drink it until I pass out. Somehow, it seems to do the trick. lol... So it isn't exactly orthodox.
As for me I'm just board. I'm waiting for a window to implement a software change and it's not for a coupe of hours. I'm just being a lurker and drinking a vino in preparation for the big event.
It will be good to finish this project because next Monday I am on the way to LOS. Then I won't be bored for a while.
I'll not waste anymore posting space.
norok!
Where did this idea that I miss the z man come from? From z asking me about my gaming? From firedick? I use to be enemies with z and disagree with him on just about everything.
z : 'use TG as sperm tupperwear.. human kleenex'... 'never fuck the same girl twice'..'always ST'
DJ : 'be nice' ...'ok to repeat', 'LT sometimes is good'
I was also the one to correctly predict that z is a two minute man, which, to his credit, he proudly admits. I turned the tides and gave him positive recognition on the board. I was the only one to chew out z and wildman and never got chewed back, unlike skinless, joez, tap etc.
Haven't posted for a few days and people think you're dead. :)
DJ,
So you are alive and well.
Okay man, do you remember when I said, "The last thing someone says is their world view?" Well... This is the last thing you said, "Some guys don't give a shit as long as the car have a Nintendo built in."
Now, am I the only one, or does this sound like someone that misses the Z man?
Well, now I'm waiting to hear what I said last. Such is life!
:)
I bought a Gamecube just to check it out and realize I'm too old for this shit. z has been giving me tips on GC. Maybe I should get some more adult games like Eternal Darkness. Or I shoulda got an xbox for internet gaming.
Posterlion, sounds like you're the one who missed me. :)
hahahaha! touche!
2 more days here...thank buddha my 24 hr flu only lasted 24 hrs.
skinless,
email me and i'll give u the full scoop...
traveler's got better stories than me...
tapioca
Freeler :
Do get mad man. Did not criticize you. Go on with what you like. We just don't hunt the same prey.
Furthermore, map of central bkk was from a soapie, nice face, body shape good, but how can you say what is in a box before you unpack it ?
You always mention the money you got to pay for it. This is not of my concern. I am willing to pay for what I get. Payment always and only depends on performance. If a beach ***** could bring me to my limits she would also get an appropriate payment.
I don't say you are cheap, but your main interest seems to get away with spending less - which is ok. But I am not blind and do not switch off lights when action starts. Like to have beauties around me, that's what makes me horny. Therefore it is just for me and not that anybody says 'great guy cause he got a good looking chick". I am a great guy anyway, even without a good looking chick :-)
So be cool and don't take everything to personal.
I just put my 2 cents here without any insults and without flaming you.
Peace
story goes on ...
Tap and me went to Kittens Club where we asked one to choose between us. After asking her a hundred times she finally picked Tap, due to his chinese looks she said. When digging deeper she told me, that farangs used to cheat her, telling her to wait and pick her up later, but than never showed up. That gives us farangs a bad reputation, so do not do that !
Tap told me later on, that the girl was totally disappointing. So Tap won, but lost at the end :-)
Picked up a girl from Chang Bar 2 at the beach road in the afternoon. Nice face 8.5-9/10, body and breast ok 8/10, a bit strong below the waist, but not fat or chubby at all. But if anybody can withstand so many impacts for such a long time, than you need some armour. Undressed better than dressed - as always :-)
The best thing was, she loves to have sex and was always smiling. We did it in the afternoon once, at night twice (took me 3 hours with just 10 min break) and in the morning again another one and a half hour.
She is up to every position, even gave me a BBBJ and let me also do anal. Was a bit scared but trusted me on going easy.
Morning session was hard for me, cause she always liked it hard, fast and deep and I hadn't that much time to rest. Felt quite exhausted afterwards. So went to have breakfast with Tap.
Gave her 1500. I know even 1000 would have been enough for a bar girl, but don't save on the ones who deliver good service, better save where they try to cheat you or just playing dead.
Funny thing was, I saw the small papers where they do the calculation for the lady drinks and bar fines. She always had between 2 - 3 barfines and one day even five. Will probably take her again.
Last night we went to walking street and had a seat at Living Dolls. There was a real hot chick selling tequila and doing the shows. She has a boyfriend from the UK and normally does not go with customers. I asked her if she will go with me and if her boyfriend is here. She just said, that boyfriend is not here therefore she got none and if I want her I got to pay for it. Doesn't mention any amount, just the 1000 bf cause she is doing she shows. She told me, that I can do with her what ever I want but no anal. That's a promise.
Afterwards saw her at Marine Disco. Think I gonna pick her up from there tonight and save the bf. May give it to her, got to see how she performs.
Tap can reconfirm that she knows how to move, isn't that beautiful but still a 8.5 on my scale. Beautiful tits, if you buy tequila you can lick the salt and lemon from her nipples for an extra 100 baht.
Finally saw the sand I brought to the beach back from BKK. Took her last night. Full program again including BBBJ. Since it was a freebie I took it, but won't do it again. Even if it was very good I got used to her. Need some new flesh and will take it tonight.
So back to the roots and pick them from Marine Disco like in my early days ...
Great reports, Traveler. They are very much appreciated!
Last night Tap and me checked the chicks at beach road again, just to see if it can go worse. To our surprise we found a few (4-5) which were about average. Some young ones (around 18) were there as well. We were ready to take a couple of sisters 19 and 20 ys old, Taps favourite look blond/red hair, a bit chinese/japanese like and young. But attitude was a concern so we went on.
Chatting with a few of them, prices range between 200 -500.
Nothing else to report so far.
Receptionist keeps calling and got to pay me back soon.
It's Tap's last night in Pattaya, he is heading back to BKK. Just coming from a traditional massage and now feeling relaxed enough to go on for more pussy.
Over and out
Anybody currently in Pattaya ?
Tap is gonna leave tomorrow.
The night before I saw our so called virgin with a very old guy at the Marine Plaza market. As Tap and me had always suspected, she was going with other guys - Tap wasn't the first - and wasn't a virgin at all. Her behaviour was just a tactic to avoid sexual intercourse and of course a very effective one. Since I haven't spent any money on her, I don't mind.
Just use your brain, a girl 25ys, good looking, working as a dancer in a gogo, smoking, drinking alcohol and a virgin ?
Very very rare combination I think. But nevertheless she knew how to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off customers. When I finally rejected her, she told me to go back to the room and she would show me what she could be up to. But I was happy to had her out of the room and went for breakfast with Tap.
Last night - Tap's last in Pattaya - we went to Soi 6. Did expect nothing, due to our last visits, but things are getting bettter. Saw a few who could be worth the 500 Baht. Sitting down in DMT and playing around with two chicks, one which went with Tap before. Then moving on down the street when we suddenly spot a real nice one. Since I am always checking the things to come, my eyes already went to the next bar, where I spotted another one that could fit in. So I couldn't decide where to go for a few seconds and finally went to Jimmy's bar. There we played our old game and let the girl decide who she wants to take. After a hundred questions it's again Tap ! What's wrong with this world? She says, that she choosed him because he immediately decided to go to her, but I had to think about it first.
So Tap went up (250 bf incl. dirty room + 500 girl) and is down half an hour later. Then suddenly his favourite girl calls and wants to meet him. Since I am still desperate and in need we go to Soi 8 for a stopover.
Even here things are getting better. I see a few opportunities but want to look at the whole variety first when we suddenly pass by a little cutie. I turn around, Tap says "she is cute" and barfine is paid immediately without even changing a word with her. That's what I call a quick decision.
Going out that night, but she tries to avoid Marine Disco and Plaza, prefering Tony's. Why?
Back home, undress, shower, I check her purse to reconfirm her age. She said, that she is 20, but her ID says she will turn 17 this year. That's the reason for staying away from Marine, cause they check ID when in doubt. Ask her about her real age, telling her that the things she told me don't fit in. Just left school (Mo 6 = 12 ys), two months in Pattaya, only three longtime customers adds up to max. 17 ys. But she insisted to be 20 ys old and her ID got lost.
Thinking about to send her home but finally my hormons suceed over the rest of my body and here we go. Since I am only the fourth customer I go very slowly, foreplay lasts at least 45 min. After that I changed her name to Miss Waterfall, never saw a girl that wet, even the sheets are wet because she is dripping.
Session was quite nice, she is unexperienced but when she comes she locks on you and when taking her from the back the knows how to move. Very naturally talented.
The best thing about her is her perfect skin all over the body, no scars, no pimples, absolutely even and very soft. Tight body, definately 9.5/10, small breast, but when coming from behind still a hand full, nice nipples getting hard when playing with them (she gets horny when doing so), face just a 8/10, 1,50m tall, 43 kg.
She is still shy - wants towel when standing up - and very calm. Tonight will take her again.
Receptionist still keeps calling. Payday will be quite soon.
Saw a cute one at Royal Plaza today. Is selling drinks at first level. Looks like mixture of thai / indian with a bit arabic blood. Will be a challenge but not impossible. Got to focus on the dancers at Hollywood too.
Keep you informed ...
Was in Soi 6 again. Took one from Copacabana, 25 ys, 1.65m, body and face 8/10, former dancer from the gogo above Champion in Walking Street. Nice Talking, very smart girl. Sex was average but still fun.
Last night I walked down beach road and suddenly ran into a quite cute one. Maybe I just took her cause she looks like my father's girl friend. Isn't that weird (or better sick)? Tall 1.72m, 50 kg, body and face 7.5-8.0/10. Gave her 500 for average service.
Was wandering around and finally ended up at Living Dolls. Tap and me saw a very hot chick doing the show, but that one was even hotter. Doing all shows like sado/maso, sexy show and thai show. Knows how to move, fast and slow. Very nice face 9/10, body 10/10. Slimmer than the other one and better face.
Tap, yes she is dark and from Buriram.
Ask mamasan if that girl can be bf. Mamasan says 1.000 baht and up to the girl, but she probably won't go with me cause she has a boyfriend. Nevertheless I call the girl. She tells me that she needs time to decide and off she goes for the shows. A big spender - big bottle red label and tipping girls big - offers my show girl 5.000 for the night. She refuses but when shows ended she gives me her mobile no. and tells me to call her so I can save the 1000 bf. Very nice idea.
Receptionist keeps calling, got the number from the hotel somehow and managed to find out my room no. says that she is missing me. Payday comes closer.
Will see what this evening got for me. Tonight will be freelancer time.
Traveler, thanks a lot for all those excellent field reports. Keep up the good work!
It's over 1 year since I last visited the Sacred City of Pattaya and I miss it so much...
Maybe you can help me with a couple of questions...
The first one is regarding the Penthouse hotel. Apart from those red lights in the room, has it got a normal lighting? I'd like to give it a try next time I go over, but I guess it must be difficult to carry out a good examination of the girls' pussies (in search of possible signs of STD's) with those red lights.
The second one is about Marine disco. Is it still closing at 2 am? How severe is the crackdown nowadays?
Hey Guys,
This is a great forum...did much reading here a few months back and bought a ticket for some sanuk toward the end of May. Plan on hitting BKK, Pattaya, Khorat, and maybe PNP, however, seems that PNP is having some problems, so I will have to see.
Anyway, I want thank everyone for posting all the great info, and I will soon be able to offer my contributions to help out the cause.
I would like some observations and suggestions regarding hotels in Pattaya. Can anyone recommend a hotel that has access directly to the street rather than going through a lobby? It is my preference for not having to deal with hotel staff regarding signing in the ladies, obtaining the room key each time I step in and out, not having to wait for elevators, etc.
I recall a few places mention quite before in the archive such as Ice Inn, Apex...any thoughts?
Seems that Penthouse mentioned by tapioca and Traveler is a place that might not require constant interaction with the front desk.
Just planning ahead (of head)
DaBoy
penthouse has some brighter lights besides those red ones...there're a couple of small lamps besides the bed that u can use to do ur checks.
marine is so erratic on when they choose to close...but the times we've been there, it's always past 2am...latest at around 2:30am.
again, penthouse is great if ur a sex tourist...there are no walks of shame like those at the Hard Rock or Marriott. no ID checks either...
tapioca
Tap - marine closed last PM at 230. For those wanting to do gyno inspections, remember to bring your own FLASHLIGHT. Some of the cheaper hotels are good banger spots, too. If you need absolute western comfort, why did you come to Thailand?
so many bars so little time. Anybody out there have recommendations of what to ABSOLUTELY avoid? (and no I don't mean the "boyz bars" - I know about them. Went to "Nui" across from wild willies I think the dancers named me "tequila" and drank up the 1/2 litre of tequila I had (and did it again last nite, too- still have 1/2 litre left - so expecting more drunk dancers. mamasan wasn't too happy with me getting her dancers drunk on "free" tequila. a drunker dancer is a happier dancer. Nui has on site room service 300B plus 1000 girl, ST. Found a situation where 1 dancer was on stage an another dont remember name bar so I rang the bell and bought her a drink but she no like older papa (but hey, baby, the money's not old...").
I USED to tout TJ. Man this place runs over TJ like a semi over a bug (but here if a semi runs over a bug they will cook it and eat it)
for those inerested there is a pattaya to cambodian border minibus for 700B. probably get the rest of the way to sihanoukville by moto except that dinghy might not fit on back of moto with bag and bag. more info posted on PNH in cambodia section
daboy :
almost all pattaya hotels are girl-friendly. just avoid the very expensive ones like royal cliff, they will charge you a joiner fee.
all the others might only ask for the id of your girl. if you don't want that just tell them that you know the girl and everything is ok. but remember, id checks are only for your own security. if there is anything stolen from you or any other problem occurs the girl would be rather careful, since her id is at the front desk (or at least a copy of it). btw, i never had an id check done and never had any probs so far.
gladiator :
regarding the lights at the penthouse, tap said it all. there are other (white) lights in the room, but it will never be a bright light whatsoever. the fan over your bed got red and white lights and will probably bright enough to do the exam.
about marine disco, it always ends at 2:30 am. then most of the girls and customers moving over to marine plaza disco (the one directly at the night food market, saudi disco) which closes around 3:00 am.
you will also find girls at marine 2 (which is located in the hotel at the end of the food market). this one is mostly open till 5 am. it is very dark in there though. nevertheless, last night i took a stunner from there. she is working at living dolls too and one of the show girls. fantastic body 10/10, face 8.5-9/10. this saved me 1.000 baht barfine.
there is also some action till 5 am in the disco at the hotel opposite marine plaza (where the car park is). very dark in there too.
remember to bring a torch with you, therefore you can see what you get. most girls are left overs from gogos and marine freelancers. i like to sit directly opposite of marine disco when it close down. everybody has to pass me by and got to face me. so no bad surprises and but-her-faces. also do the same when the others places are shutting down.
also a nice place is at one of the bars (but too loud) leading to the food market) and at one of the food market places. all girls appear in bright light, that way you can do a pfc (pre-flight-check).
hollywood will end around 2:30 am, but exite will be open up to 5 am (can't reconfirm but a girl told me so). and if you haven't found anything till then you got to sit down at the bar directly at the staircase leading to 17th hole in front of the small disco (tap we had been in there once). this bar keeps open till the last one drops. yesterday i went home around 6 am, still many customers and some nice girls as well.
what to avoid ? depends on your taste.
i recommend sabailand as best soapie. try 005 and 176. good looking and nice attitude.
soi 2 and the bars around had no nice girls. just the ones on the higher level opposite big c had some cute ones. but take a look at their working id, white is only serving, blue goes with customer.
soi 6 mostly only crap, but walk slow and you might find a nice one. remember, do not go into the bar to check, cause all free girls are sitting outside and like the gogos they place the best looking there to attract customers.
soi 7 and soi 9 got nothing for me, but soi 8 had a few quite nice one.
most bars in between soi 8 and walking street, including soi post office and soi yamato has nothing.
soi pattayaland, recommend planet hard rock and bubbles. but avoid a girl named tum at bubbles at all cost (no. 12). really nice but very bad attitude. got already prob with three customers (incl. me). one more and she gets fired.
soi diamond, superbaby and the one opposite superbaby (don't recall name) are the best ones.
walking street, happy gogo and best of the best living dolls.
living dolls has really the best girls in pattaya, but some of them won't go with customers (don't worry, just some show girls). like my dancer, i had to work on her for at least four days before she finally did what we all at this forum like so much. she is a stunner and knows that, but still wants to be a good girl. i heared and saw that she was rejecting an offer from a big spender of about 5.000 baht for a st.
the good news is, that these cuties have also very nice girl-friends, which come to visit them.
about the show girls, they do only shows and get only paid for them 50 baht each. if they would work there on a monthly basis with a monthly salary, they would have to go with men. they also collect tips and lady drinks.
some will go with you if you got the right approach, good looking, good clothes (no speedos please) and a nice attitude. just like me :-) being a big spender might help as well, but is less important, cause they got so many offers that they can choose, and they do !
so far so good. got to go to sabailand right now to take no. 005 for a cleansing.
travlr - what I meant was obvious rip-off joints or high katoey to girl ratio. maybe I'm just jaded from exposure to Tijuana
I am planning on arriving at BKK airport at around 1:30 a.m. I want to go directly to Pattaya from the airport. Is a taxi my best bet at that time of night? I hear the cost is around 1500 baht. Is this correct?
Also, I stayed at the Diamond Beach Hotel last time. That was fine but at around 1250 baht per night I think I overpaid. I hear the White Inn is perfectly adequate and a lot less money. Do any of you have any comment on this? Also, I can't find any way to make reservations at the White Inn via internet. Do I have to call them on the phone? I don't want to arrive at 4 a.m. and not have a room.
Any advice on the above will be appreciated. I'm planning to go the week of April 14 - 19.
Traveler and Tapioca,
Thanks for the info on the hotels.
I plan on being in Pattaya during the end of May, as long as this SARS b.s. settles down a little from now to then.
Also, good info on places, discos, soapies, etc.
Looking forward to checking things out and reporting.
Ciao!
anybody in town and interested in comparing notes with an old fart?
I read in The Bangkok Post that all travelers coming to Thailand from designated areas, including Taiwan, will be required to remain indoors for 14 days. I am planning to fly to BKK on China Airlines April 11. I want to go directly to Pattaya and stay there for one week. But I change planes in Taiwan!
Am I going to be prevented from doing this? Any information would be appreciated.
Thanks.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ljohnson
[i]I read in The Bangkok Post that all travelers coming to Thailand from designated areas, including Taiwan, will be required to remain indoors for 14 days. I am planning to fly to BKK on China Airlines April 11. I want to go directly to Pattaya and stay there for one week. But I change planes in Taiwan!
Am I going to be prevented from doing this? Any information would be appreciated.
Thanks. [/i][/QUOTE]
Check the reply posted in the Bangkok section. As of now visitors are required to wear masks for the first two weeks, if the follow the rules.
went to sabailand that day, but 005 was on duty. the other girls weren't looking that good so i headed to have a traditional massage.
afterwards walked through soi 7 (around 8-9 pm best time) and soi 8. saw one in soi 7, nice face 8.5/10, body 9/10 and breats that were a bit to big for that slim body, but pure nature no silicon. made an appointment with her to meet me around 4am. a girl-friend had already bf her cause they wanted to go to a karaoke or something similar.
in soi 8 there was an eye-catching one, but when i came closer another girl asked me if i want to take her or her girl-friend right next to her. haven't seen both cause they were sitting down behind the girls standing in front. took the one who asked me immediately. she was real cute, very nice face, perfect teeth, very good body too. she was huge for a thai girl, looked like a girl and voice like a girl, but i was curious cause of her size (more like farang). so i told her that she will be in big trouble if it turns out that she is a katoey. wasn't one. sex was average to good. gave her 1.000 and some money for the taxi.
went to walking street, but wasn't in need, therefore not to much around that fits my needs. already had the cute one from soi 7 in stock so i went home at around 3:30 am.
she came around 4am and not drunk like i was scaring. don't like girls who drink alcohol. drunken girls want to sleep or are out for trouble. night and morning sessions were nice. might probably take her again.
new day, new life.
was lurking around, royal plaza is a nice (aircon) place to pick up girls. good ones already had boy-friends. in the evening walking street again. this time living dolls 1 not 2 as usual. see a nice one, buy drink and tell her that i want her but no bf, since gogo is closing down in a few minutes. she says ok and tells me to meet her at marine plaza. we have some food there and then disco (marine 2). there we see one of her girl-friends, who is a dancer (cute and nice attitude, just fun) and works at living dolls 2. spending some time in marine 2 and on way home decide to take both. they agree.
back home shower, slow music and action... my girl cums off very hard, therefore i got to work on her for over an hour, but the other one always around us and sucking my balls. finished the first one and really needed a rest, but dancer still has to much power. bringing little traveler back to life and here we go. what a night !
receptionist from the hospital calls me. reminds that we gonna meet today. say goodbye to both of my chicks with another session, but now knowing how to finish the first one off quicker.
then shower, dress up, meeting receptionist at royal plaza. look movie (craddle 2, jet lie) small talk, sitting at the beach. coming closer to the hotel. sitting downstairs in the restaurant and finally upstairs.
action starts immediately. girl is really in need, no guy over a year. wet and hot like hell. whatever i do, whereever i touch or suck, reaction garanteed. good and long lasting session even a bbbj. tap you have seen her ass, best thing is to take her from behind, she knows how to move in every position. afterwards a short nick and here she goes. got to work tomorrow.
it's already 4am. but not tired. out again. marine disco sucks, only average or ugly chicks available, hot ones are already occupied. back down. suddenly the chick from soi 6 (smart and funny) is there. like to hang around with her, she is real fun and smart and best, she likes to bring me girls. moving over to marine 2. she is looking girls for me again. shows me one of her girl friends, real nice but likes to drink heineken. my estimation, already 6-7 bottles, by all means far to much for such a small body. therefore i reject her.
looking further, but nothing to my taste. moving on to boom disco, a small thai disco opposite od bowling (way to jomtien, close to the intersection) that keeps open till 7 am. some nice girls but with customers.
going home, she wants to come with me. telling her i have no money no more, so just want to sleep. she says, that she does not want money, only boom-boom from me. so here we go. i am really tired and want to sleep, but no way, get raped.
morning (2pm) same story. she cums off easy so only short game (20-30 min). put 1.000 in her purse, having breakfast at royal and looking for girls too. then see one passing by in a distance, real cute from behind. following her and it turns out that this is the one who is selling drinks at royal i have mention before. my girl immediately approaches her and makes great advertisement for me. real funny too. now i have her mobile no. and an appointment for tomorrow night. won't work out, cause not enough time, but like i said, not mission impossible.
keep you informed. over and out.
Regarding SARS :
Nobody is wearing masks over here.
How could they enforce it ?
Police won't stop everybody to check passports. Nobody is carrying his passport with him all the time. Don't be afraid, no such thing like staying indoors.
Come and have fun.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by The_Traveler
[i]Regarding SARS :
Nobody is wearing masks over here.
How could they enforce it ?
Police won't stop everybody to check passports. Nobody is carrying his passport with him all the time. Don't be afraid, no such thing like staying indoors.
Come and have fun. [/i][/QUOTE]
When you enter Thailand the country that you are coming from and flight are listed on your entry request. So they know were you came from. Most peole don't carry a pastport with them but the government does require ID on you, also your hotel takes your passport to review so they know if you are on this 14 day list. Most of the time I don't think anything will happen but if things get worse it could be a major problem. To say don't be afraid is just to hide our head in the sand. Also the mask thing is only a few days old now so we will not really know for a week or so. Also to say that nobody is carrying his pastport with him all the time is just wrong. I carry my passport with me and have for the last 25 years when traveling.
Like I have said before I still will be in Thailand for Songkran, I have just changed a few things I am doing and will be careful.
Thank you all for the input re SARS and what I might encounter. I have decided if I make this trip at all I am going to avoid China Airlines and avoid any carrier that stops in Taiwan or other targeted locations. Japan Air appears to be okay, as well as United and Northwest.
I would like to experience Songkran in Pattaya this year. Hope I can figure out how to do so, safely and without being masked or quarantined. I'm missing the cuties from Living Dolls.
walking by "aussie beer bar" (toward 2nd road up from walikng street)and saw this rather angelic TG (*** from rayong - no name, you go find this one for yourself - but if you go there it will be OBVIOUS which one she is). I had to go fit my suit so told her to wait, played several games of pool bought 2 LD's and then when I came back at 8 or so she said ST ok but no LT tonite. anyway, since it won't work as designed and viagra just doesn't help, I decided DATY is the only available option. Started, she started showing multiple shakes (like custer and the indians - just kept coming and coming...) Now I'm a true believer because I doubt that ANYONE could fake that kind of shaking and contractions for THAT LONG. (only that they couldn't fake it continuously) I finally got worn out (Dinghy is older gentleman) dropped 500 in her pocket and hope to see her again. THAT could KILL me, but whata way to go
In the Pattaya Mail today:
"King Kong is no match for Pattaya police
Boonlua Chatree
King Kong turned out to be no match for the Pattaya police last week when the bar was raided for allegedly offering prostitution. Police raided the King Kong Bar on Soi 6 after an investigation implied the bar was allowing this nefarious activity on its premises.
The in-depth investigation concluded when under covers officers handed over marked banknotes during a ‘pay for play’ transaction. Once the baht changed hands, a signal was given and police executed the raid, detaining 7 service girls, the owner and the manager of the bar on charges of prostitution.
Using the marked money as evidence, police took all nine people to the Pattaya Police station for further interrogation.
The service girls admitted to their misdeed and were each fined 100 baht. Police took their personal details and released them.
The owner and the manager of the bar denied all allegations and said that they had nothing to do with the procuring of customers or control of the girls for the purposes of providing sexual services. Annoyed, they told police if prostitution is illegal in Thailand they should open up their eyes and check all the rest of the bars in Pattaya. Unmoved, officers held the pair in custody saying they had enough evidence to charge them both."
Shit happens:(
freeler - the difference is that on-site is different from "up to you" even though the prices are relatively well established, PRIVATE transactions are allowed (sanuk) COMMERCIAL transaction (bar has rooms, etc) are NOT. Different mindset
Regarding SARS again :
Last night I saw some chinese, taiwanese, hongkong wearing masks. Mostly from these group tour buses. They don't mix up with us european, american. Nobody else is wearing masks (outside hospitals)
Was talking to my receptionist last evening. She told me, that there is already one SARS related death in Chonburi.
sexreview :
Do you really believe, that the police would enforce, that all tourists (or just the ones from enlisted countries) got to stay indoors for the first 14 days of their travel ?
That would knockout tourism !
In thailand you don't have to carry your passport with you, put it in the hotel safe, especially during songkran. I and most people I know never carry any travel documents with them, to much hassle if they got stolen or damaged somehow.
Not to worry is not equal with putting my head into the sand. Just be realistic and don't panic. The risk of an infection in Pattaya should be the same as at any other main tourist destination.
I think the risk of getting SARS is equal to the risk of getting an HIV infection over here. Lots of people have HIV regarding to the info I got from my receptionist.
Come, be careful and have fun.
Yesterday was the best and the worst day of my journey.
Best, because I found the perfect girl and worst, because some shithead wanted to fight with me.
Last evening I went to Soi 8 again and took a nice chick from one of these bar beers. 1,56 tall, 47 kg, nice face 8/10 (most important for me), body 8.5/10. ST at my place, sex is average to good, give her 1.000 and now I am ready for the evening.
I always try to get a ST in early evening. that way you are not in need and don't take the first one you see, so you are not occupied when something better is crossing your way. Also try to make appointments for late night. If you can't find anything, then you don't got to go home alone. Just bf a nice one from a bar, it's just 200. If you find something better, than you should give the one who was waiting for you a nice tip, 500 is appropriate, cause she didn't took any other customer. Just be fair and the girls will show up as agreed.
Around 10 pm I went to Walking Street and checked a few Gogos. Happy Gogo was ok, also Champion, but avoid Private Dancer above Champion, only crap.
Also went to Living Dolls 2 to see my dancers. The girl from my threesome (sucking balls) was also there. Wanted to take her, but I then recognized that she got a few Mekong/Soda too much. Told her I got business to do and left. She asked me if I will be back the next day and I promised her to do so.
Went up to Marine and checked Peppermint a Gogo, directly at the entrance of Marine Disco. This place is quite good, the light is bright enought to see the goods before you go shopping. The girls who are working there are just average, but the freelancers who come up to catch customers are quite good.
Didn't want to take the first one and went down. Suddenly the girl from Soi 6 (the smart and funny one) ran into me. She went to highschool and university, but had to stop due to lack of financial resources.
We decided to head for Tony's. Don't like it, cause they are to pushy and always ask you to buy drinks, tequila, flowers and all this other shit, but Marine was almost empty at that time. Now they are nuts over there, I paid 230 Baht for a bacardi-lemon (the small bottle already mixed). Marine Disco charges 180 for it, Marine 2 the same. Marine 2 is a bit more expensive than Marine Disco, maybe because they have to pay more to police to keep open longer.
Nevertheless was walking around with my girl when I suddenly saw two girls who would do. One was cute and looking very young. The other one was real sexy though. But my girl told me to stay away from the first cause she knows her and told me that she was taking drugs. Instead she was pointing at a third girl I hadn't seen so far. She was real cute and sexy, not only for farangs, thais like her as well I think. Even Tap would like her, cause light skin, brown/red hair, perfect body 10/10, beautiful face 9.5-10/10. Very nice attitude as well. Decision was clear, got to have her. Before I could say a word my girl is already talking to her and telling her what a nice guy I am. She comes over, seems to like me and agrees to come with me. Her sister got her birthday today, so she promises to hook up with me later. want me to call her around 2:30 am.
I leave and move over to Marine, call her 2:30. She is already at Marine. As Marine closes we want to go downstairs when suddenly a big guy, no streetfighter but someone looking for trouble 1.90 m, over 100 kg, a lot of muscles, no brain , too many beers, approached her. Usually I let the girls handle it by themselves, they are used to it and know what to do, but this guy seems to insist and grabs her arm so strong that she got hurt. First mistake.
So I got to go in between to take him away from her. He says something like "I need just one smack for you" and tries to kick me. Second and final error.
Usually I try to avoid situations like these. I find nothing wrong in walking away from trouble, telling people that they scared the shit out of me so I am not able to fight any more. I am on holiday and don't want to spend my time at the police station instead in my bed with a nice chick.
But to crowded, can't walk away. I did marshall arts for 15 years (holder of second Dan) and used to work as security in a disco when I was 19, so I know how to handle it.
He is much too slow for me, due to the many beers he had, so I give him a short kick at his throat to put him back to reality and giving him probably the worst three to five minutes in his life. Could have finished him off at that time cause he tries to breathe like a new born baby, no defense, no attack, just wants air, but instead I decide to walk away and vanish in the crowd. Don't want to sit at the police station, don't know either how much damage I inflicted on him. Don't care anyway.
When we finally arrive home I see what she got to offer. She is really the most beautiful girl I have seen on that journey or better in the last few years. Perfect proportions, nice skin. She tells me, that she is working since 3 months but only if she needs money. Just went out today, cause finished her english course (otherwise got to stand up at 8 am) and her sisters birthday. She was at the university as well, but not enough money to go on.
So shower and here we go. Very, very sensual, a real GFE or even better. Comes off quite easy and fast, so when I finished it is 1:3. Morning same game. She moves so good, real slow, but good synchro. Would take her with me back to my homecountry if possible, but I doubt that my wife wouldn't like that.
Will take her again tonight. Also have my appointment with the one, who sells drinks at Royal, tonight. Got to prepare her for my next journey to LOS.
to be continued...
[QUOTE]Originally posted by The_Traveler
[i]sexreview :
Do you really believe, that the police would enforce, that all tourists (or just the ones from enlisted countries) got to stay indoors for the first 14 days of their travel ?
That would knockout tourism !
Come, be careful and have fun. [/i][/QUOTE]
The _Traveler,
Go back and read the post again I never said tourist must stay indoors for 14 days. I said tourist from those five countries must wear masks for 14 days. Will the people enforce this maybe but in most cases no, but if you are the one that they single out and you are caught it is a problem. Don't forget we visit at the pleasure of the kingdom. I could see a case of a visitor being caught for not doing so and then deport, and after that happens you will not be coming back to the kingdom. Bottom line if the only way you can get to Thailand is by comming through one of these five countries it is not worth making the trip.
Again, as I have said before I'm not worried about getting SARS. I just don't want to deal with the whole mask thing so I will enter through a non SARS country.
Sexreview
freeler,
i saw that on the PAttaya news station when I was over there...me and Traveler went to Soi 6 to see if they closed but they were open as usual...nothing really happened...just a lot of talk.
Traveler,
damn, i wish i was there, i would have kicked that guy after u knocked his ass down...not before though...
i want to see some ass beatin'.....
oh, i got pictures of u and ur hunnies...i'll resize em and send them to ya.
tapioca
Tapioca,
Obviously the girls went straight back after paying (or not paying...) their B100 fines. They have nowhere else to go.
The thing that is going to happen, no doubt, is that the police are going to check the pair's immigration status, their licences and what not, in order to set a fine of about B15,000.
The money they should have paid to 'someone' in the first place.
Well update on angel - "Dan" and the bar is NEXT TO aussie beer bar at the entrance to "bluse factory". interesting thing, sshe just gors there so no BF. anyway, decided to go LT, so stop off at seafood restaurant for shrimp and stuff (750B - lots of food, for little gorl, she eats like a horse) and then off to the room where she strips, jumps into bed and promptly falls asleep (must have been all of 1 minute) now when this TG sleeps, I doubt if a 21 gun salute would wake her. anyway, I nod off after trying to arrouse interest with no luck and waken about 2 or so and reach over to pet the kitty and get a wet hand - oh great, she pissed the bed. at least they are twins pushed together. anyway, she wakes, gets up , goes to bathroom to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url], climbs back in bed and poof, gone again. I would have preferred starfish this was more like snail and all she wants to do is cuddle (probably trying to stay warm, she shivers a bvit, gets up turns off AC back in bed and poof. So it gets to 530 or so and she gets up, takes shower, and comes back in. AHA, time for sanuk. Fat chance as she anpounces "It 5 leave now" "But what about me?" no response. shove 250 into pants for bedwarming and living hot water bag duty. she go now. this was the same girl???
Okay, guys. Looks like I'm gonna do it. Planning to leave L.A. this Friday the 11th and arrive BKK late Saturday night. Planning to take a cab directly from the airport to Pattaya and stay there the whole trip. Want to experience Songkran in Pattaya. Will stay in Pattaya through Friday night the 18th and leave BKK late on the 18th and be back in L.A. the morning of the 19th (day before Easter.)
I've been to the LOS only once (early February this year) and am still new at this and would really appreciate your collective advice.
1. SARS - my plan is to fly on Korean Air (or possibly United) and avoid even passing through any suspect countries. Any other precautions I should take or other advice?
2. Hotel - I think I want to stay at the White Inn. My info is that it's a good place to stay, is cheap and it looks like the location is good of you're picking up girls on and around Walking Street area. I'm not sure how to reserve a room there. They don't seem to have a website. I don't want to arrive in Pattaya at 3-4 a.m and not have a room. Should I call them on the phone from L.A.? Also, will I be able to get a cab from the airport to Pattaya late at night?
Any other advice from you "more seasoned" travelers will be appreciated.
Thanks,
LJ
Ljohnson,
Better take a ThaiLimousine. A bit more expensive, but safer, fixed rates and easier than getting a cab in the middle of the night.
Ask the people at the ThaiLimousineDesk to call the hotel for you.
Have one or two alternatives handy.
This is their website, prices on the bottom of the page:
[url]http://www.thaiair.com/thailand/limousine/fares.htm[/url]
Here is how to find their counter in BKK(=DonMuang)Airport:
[url]http://www.thaiair.com/thailand/limousine/counter.htm[/url]
Freeler -
Thanks for the advice and links...BUT...I'm arriving at BKK at around 12:30 a.m. and I want to go to Pattaya right away. The Thai limo/bus schedule says I'd have to wait until 6 a.m. Are private cabs not available at that time of night, or are you saying they are not advisable, e.g. safe? Asking for a ripoff, etc.
Sorry if I'm being a pain in the ass... I do appreciate your advice.
LJ
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ljohnson
[i]Freeler -
Thanks for the advice and links...BUT...I'm arriving at BKK at around 12:30 a.m. and I want to go to Pattaya right away. The Thai limo/bus schedule says I'd have to wait until 6 a.m. Are private cabs not available at that time of night, or are you saying they are not advisable, e.g. safe? Asking for a ripoff, etc.
Sorry if I'm being a pain in the ass... I do appreciate your advice.
LJ [/i][/QUOTE]
ljohnson,
The limo links below offer private limos 24 hours per day. You can use them anytime, you should reserve ahead of time so that you don't have to wait. Private meter taxis are also offered 24 hours per day and take about 2 hours to travel to Pattaya. They are safe and without problems, just go to the starters booth outside on the curb and get the price before you leave. By going through the starters booth outside on the curb there is a record of your trip so you will not have a problem. As you walk through the terminal several people will asked if you want a taxi or limo, don't even talk to them you will pay double the price. Several years ago they did have a problem with taxis, but it was taxis that people took from outside of the official taxi area. I have taken taxis many times without any problems. You may want to check on the incoming plane and find another American going to Pattaya and share the cab.
Sexreview
Sexreview, Freeler, et al
Thank you all for the advice. You generosity is appreciated.
LJ
Ljohnson,
The limo's are Mercedes, the taxi's Corolla's...
No pain at all:).
My last night in Pattaya.
After a tradiional massage on my way home I went to Soi 8 to pick up a small cute one, 1,52m, 45kg, short hair, body 9/10, face 8.5/10. Nice and decent intercourse but no BJ. Nevertheless good start for the evening.
After that, dated the girl from Royal Plaza. Went to a restaurant with her and joking around. She seems to like me and to be interested in more, but time is an issue. She is a good girl, therefore I got to work on her for a while. Will proceed when I am back next time. Have her mobile no. and can contact her.
Afterwards checked some gogos like Happy Gogo, Living Dolls 2 (former Blackout location), Champion and Superbaby. Availibility and looks of girls were ok, but I wanted to take a freelancer, still some very nice ones around.
The one I had last night phoned me and told me, that her long time boy-friend came back, so she can't meet me tonight. He is one of the smart guys, sending her money every month, so she don't has to go with other men :-) Her sisters boy-friend is doing the same and also want to open an internet cafe for them. Poor guys.
Checking Marine and all the other discos, but too dark in there, so I sat down at the JP International ... something bar on the small path leading from Marine Disco to Marine Plaza. Had a few drinks when finally a blond one passed by. 1,65m, 47 kg, breast just 70a but nice face though. And Tap, she was very light skinned. Quit calm person, but nice attitude. Sex was average, BJ really not impressive but better than nothing. Morning session same game. Gave her 1.000 and went to BKK so my Pattaya report ends here.
Actual price list directly from the source :
beach road :
no bf, ST 300 - 500, LT unknown (won't do that)
beer bars :
bf 200
ST 500 (cheap charlie)- 800, 1000 at best
LT 1000
gogos :
bf 500 - 600
ST 1000 - 1500
LT 1500 - 2000
freelancers (pickup like marine disco) :
no bf
ST 800 - 1000
LT 1000 - 1500, some might ask for 2000
prices are not fixed, pay for performance
I would give ST 1000 and LT 1500 - 2000
Soi 6 short-time bars :
bf 250 - 300 incl. room
ST 500 for girl (paid separately)
You can also take them with you. BF is slightly higher, cause girl will be away a bit longer. LT is also possible, 1000 for the girl should do.
Just remember, be fair and treat them nice and they will come again. Otherwise they won't and their girl-friends as well.
Have fun
Hi there Traveler, good reports.
As a fellow martial arts practitioner, I know that we almost never start a fight. It is usually some wanna be tuff/drunk guy.
I want to add something because I know there are lots of guys who read this and don't post(lurkers, I get emails from them all the time). And there will no doubt be some wanna be tuff guys who think "The Traveler.. what a tough guy.. kicks a 6 foot guy down and brings a cute girl home and fuck her good. Dang what if I'm tough and kick someone will I be a hero too?" Don't.
Now I know traveler to be a very rational and smart guy, a good guy. And a total ladies man so even if he didn't kick someone's ass he'd still get good sex.
And Thai girls do not like violent guys. And don't fight with a local guy. The Thais and the cops will be on his side and the guy may know Muay Thai kickboxing.
But Traveler made a good move. Besides his foundation is pretty solid.
-DJ
Hi Dick Johnson,
thx for your comments, that goes down like honey.
Sad that you couldn't make it this time. Had a lot of fun with Tap. Maybe next time.
Anyway, never wanted to be a hero and don't feel like one. Situation went out of control and I had to save my ass, nothing more. Posted it only, cause it was part of the evening.
But to all, remember DJ's advice not to look for trouble with a thai. Prob isn't that he might know muay thai, most don't and are no match. Also police isn't necessarily on his side.
Much more important is, that even if you can defeat him, he will be back with a dozen of his friends. Saw that once happen to a thai guy who was really hunted down by a group of other thai guys. They kicked the shit out of him, even when he was already laying on the ground. Only his girl-friend might have saved him, she went in between and the guys went off. They will use everything in reach, pieces of wood, bottles, chairs and so on. So be warned, think most of you guys come to LOS for the ladies and not for a decent but unfair fight.
Traveller is the man of the month.
(It looks like he is the only man in Pattaya fuck.ing all the girls in the entire last month. No other postings)
Great Reports with deep details.
Thanks Traveller !!!
[QUOTE]Originally posted by khun
[i]Traveller is the man of the month.
(It looks like he is the only man in Pattaya fuck.ing all the girls in the entire last month. No other postings)
Great Reports with deep details.
Thanks Traveller !!! [/i][/QUOTE]
Traveller's report are very good indeed, hope to be adding a few of my own within the week.... it has been to long since my last trip to Pattaya... over two months.... but soon the dry spell will be over. In more ways than one being in Pattaya for Songkran is anything but dry.
Sexreview
Does anyone know when the U.S. Navy is due to hit Pattaya in May???
Hi everyone,
After reading all the contributions given by traveller I guess I need to give you a short story of what happened on my last trip to Pattaya 3 weeks ago. It was the second time to Pattaya and for sure I don’t regret it. I also sent some pictures of my girls to Jackson, let’s see when he has the time to add them to the gallery.
Day 1
Arrived by 16:00 att Don Muang and took the Bus to the bus terminal where air con buses go to Pattaya (100+90 Baht). Already here the fun started. Had a very cute chick sitting next to me and me, not willing to loose any time, started to make conversation directly. Asked her if she likes farang, where she lives… Unfortunately, leaves the bus before Pattaya and gave me phone number. But hey, there are thousands more later to choose from. Sorry ma'am.
Coming to Pattaya, took the small bus to Flipper Hotel at Soi 7 where I had reserved a room (stayed at Flipper Lodge before, but where fully booked now). Unpacking, shower and out we go. After a short dinner at a restaurant across Tony supermarket, walked along the bars around there. Man, I still love this place “Hello mister, Sexy man, handsome man where you go ?” Lots of beauties to the right and left. But no hurry, the first evening has to be a good one.
Found a very cute one at a bar and tried to get her to the sofa for lady drink. She was happy and laughed, but Mamasan came directly telling me she only works Fridays and doesn’t speak English, so not available. Bullshit, guess she wanted to keep her as attraction and earn on the other hags first.
Wasn’t in the mood to argue so went on to Soi 8 where I found another cutie: nice face (important), young looking, boobs and nice ass. Good she looked good, imagine how heavy my lower part got. Didn’t understand shit of what she was saying cause of the loud music, didn’t speak much of English either, but paid my bf (200 Baht)and her drink, she told me I could do with her whatever I wanted. When returning to my room she switched on the TV and sat on my bed like a statue. By that time my Willy was on fire so I wanted to get started. Told her to take shower and get ready. No, she said, we make boom boom and later I forget her. What ????? Here I was, my Willy hard like steel in front of this gorgeous and she tells me she is a newbie ? How unfortune could i be ? Are the only cuties in town beginners ? Cannot sir, want to be your girl friend, take easy ? I simply showed her the door (hey, I’m not a missionary), took her a while to understand. Went back to her bar where Mamasan told her to go back with me. Complained but didn’t feel for taking her again or any other chick from this bar.
Went down towards Beach Road and found a cutie in the last bar on the left. English good(lived in HongKong), cute face, no boobs. But now I was desperate, balls were hanging heavily like stones after the long trip and that incident. No ma’am, no lady drink, no sitting down. You come with me now, take it or leave it. She took it for ST, told me she has a Canadian boyfriend whom she has to meet by 2 am at the Marine, she was only at the bar to visit her friend. Yep, sure baby. Still went for shower and here we go. No pictures though, too shy. Nice bj bareback but no shooting in mouth, said she was afraid of Aids. Close to coming, I put on the rubber, grabbed her ass and banged her from behind. Man, I am in heaven. Close to shooting, I took of the condom and shot over her ass and back. Good, what a relief, that felt god. I took her head and moved it to my dick so she did some aftersucking. Man, that was nice, I was exhausted and needed some sleep after hours of travelling. She wanted to have a quicky again the next day, maybe I said. Sent her back to her boyfriend. Fell to sleep relieved. End of first day.
My experience with Newbie
I went to Superbaby & selected a girl which looked nice to me. I call her & talked a little bit & she told me she is new about one month back came to Pattaya. I ask if she like to go with me & she said if "Phee" (her friend) goes with my friend then OK. No discussion on payment because phee was with us.
I, too, avoided to discuss the price because I wanted to use the way many people submit on this forum. Mostly when I ask the price the girls tell a bit very high as normally quoted on this forum for LT.
OK we walked away from walking street & moved to Xyte. My friend wanted to go there. Phee was little hungry & so was I. At the restaurent outside Xyte we had some food. My girl did not eat anything even she ordered some Thai dish.
Inside Xyte she refuse to drink anything & no dance. No dance then why we are disco? She says her elder sister was there & she do not want her to see her. OK, at 2:00am we left disco & went to have a coffee at second road. Now this girl want me to pay money so she can go home and to "add interest" payment for long time as it is already 6 hours. However me & phee conveince her to go to hotel & go home in the morning. I don't know what she explained to her.
Come to the room, I asked her about her experience in sex & his one month life in Pattaya. She say she have not have sex anytime. When asked 3-4 times she told she have never gone with farangs. So with whom? She told me 3-4 times in one month she went with chinese/japanees. The she come out that they have a small gun. Farangs have big gun. Guys I was decided & need of the hours was too high. She have to have my gun. She was not a virgin. I can never believe a girl in a gogo can be virgin. Atleast she will have to undergo a training & testing course when she joins a gogo.
After shower, she face the gun & immediately asked me if I have KY gelly. Hey I am not getting married here & looking for virgin to buy KY. Perhaps I use some face cream. OK use this. She was not virgin but she was tightest one I have ever screwed. I am crazy in pushing hard so I enjoyed this. After one session she fell down & got sleep. It was 4:30 am & by the 6:00 am I was again loaded. How I can sleep deep when I want to have deep slip. I did not tried to awake her but started playing again. She kept sleeping with murmur with little resistance. I had another round in the very pleasant good morning. Then I slept till 10:30 am & when I wake up she was waiting me to wake up. She asked me to pay 3000 baht (2 times for short time) which she say was a normal rate at Superbaby. My friend & phee were still sleeping so I had to pay. Further I did not wanted her to force for lower money myself because I had enjoyed a very tight (like virgin) play.
The moral of the story is - the newbie will always have resistance & may be some time few non-sense. You have to force little bit. You may not have fun or they can give you some tensions. You can get a good tight sex if you like that.
My night was boring but morning was super.
I will search for a girl like that again but will not repeat msitake to take her to disco. Straight to the move.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by khun
[i]She asked me to pay 3000 baht (2 times for short time) which she say was a normal rate at Superbaby. My friend & phee were still sleeping so I had to pay. [/i][/QUOTE]
This sounds like a Superscam. You should've given her 1000 B and kicked her ass out of the room straightaway.
It seems that there're lately many 'virgins' in Pattaya go-go bars... Let's be tough with them, otherwise the scam will spread and shortly Pattaya will be full of overpriced 'virgins'.
Traveler(aka. Man of the month),yeah too bad I can't make it. I can only imagine cool dude Traveler + wild man DJ + Tap, I think the roof will go off:D
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dr. Cop
[i]Does anyone know when the U.S. Navy is due to hit Pattaya in May??? [/i][/QUOTE]
This year's Cobra Gold is set in Chon Buri, Rayong, Chanthaburi, Trat and Prachuap Khiri Khan on May 16-29. So you will see the US Navy around at that time. The number of troops from the US will be about half of what was sent last year. Look for around 6000 to 7000 thousand, not all of them will be in Pattaya, not all wil get shore leave, and those that do will be spread out over several days.
Day 2
Woke up late the other day. Went down to the hotel restaurant and later to the pool. I can recommend Flipper hotels. Nice rooms, reasonable prices and a pool on the roof. Had some dinner later and went on hunting. Went along the bars on Soi 7, 8 and 11 and flirted with some girls. Either I was too early or was to picky, didn’t see any attractive one. What I want is a good face (at least 6/10) and nice ass and legs. That’s all I need.
Decided to go to Beach Road. Despite the discussion on this board earlier about chicks at Beach Road I can tell you one thing: I start to hate the bars and discos in Pattaya, they charge you like hell (Thailand price level), you don’t understand shit of what they are saying whereas the girls are not all necessarily better looking. Yes, I agree, some of the girls at Beach Rood are ugly and dirty like shit, don’t even understand how they even try to get one. Yes, a lot of ladyboys you met, but keep your eyes open and your dick under control, you will see the difference. But I love Beach Road, you sit somewhere, see the girls passing by; you have the time to check them out, look at their profile, see their English level. You can start to flirt with them with no noise surrounding you, no lady drinks and if you like her, you can start to negotiate with her in peace and calm. If you have the patience and the time you can find some real pearls there.
Whatever, after going up and down on the road for an hour or so, I located a real heavy cutie on the circular benches you find north of the monument. I just reacted on her “hello handsome, you sexy man” and her nice breast shining through her tight open ringed blouse. I sat down and we started chatting. She had really tight short pants showing a cute ass and solid legs. As I love to bang them from behind there is nothing I hate more than a bony ass and thin legs. Her name was Goa(23 yrs) and we agreed on 800 Baht LT, with a lot of “boom boom“, bbbj and pictures taken during all sessions. (I will also send some of her pictures to Jackson tonight so you guys can see what I am talking about.) Paid too much ? Maybe, but I love to take pictures of them and me doing the action and most of the bargirls don’t want that.
Went back to the hotel and here we go again. She undresses and what a sight ! Nice firm boobs (not fake!), lovely ass and perfect legs. After a couple of pictures in different positions, spreaded legs and bended over, I put my already stonehard dick in her mouth, couldn’t wait any longer. Even though she wasn’t perfect sucking, I couldn’t help it and came right over her face and in her hair. Sorry ma’am, you didn’t want to swallow, that’s what you get. But she wasn’t upset as I thought she would be and after 10 minutes of TV and she massaging my balls she started to suck me again and here I was ready again. Fast on with Jimmy the rubber, she grabs my dick and slides it in her, riding me. I don’t like that position so much as I love to look at the ass during f…ing so I get up and take her from behind both in bed and leaned towards the TV table. She has a wide ass so while screwing her I wet my finger and stick it in her anus and massage it. (Call me sick, but I love it even though I never ever was so lucky to get one of them to let me f..ck their back hole for a reasonable price. I could force it, but I like them to be nice to me so I want to be nice to them. Whenever I asked for anal they either refuse or ask for 4-5000 Baht, that’s not worth it. Their holes are tight and nice anyway; different with the Russians you can take in Italy or Macau.) Right before coming, I take a good grip on her, take my stick out, slip of the annoying condom and shoot from behind right in her anus. Not entering of course, don’t want to get any STD. Took a nice picture with the sperm on her anus ring running down to her wide opened pussy. After that action I was so exhausted I just had to let her go even though she wanted to stay. I promised her I might get her tomorrow again and had not and will not see any other woman but her (hm, sure). Considering her body shape and willingness I don’t think I had gotten much of sleep and I need to save some juice for other TG. One chick every day, that was my promise.
Attention: If anyone wants to swap pictures with me from your adventures, just send me an email at
villhakul@yahoo.com
and I send you some from my collection. But they have to be your pictures, not any internet picture, please !
Hi Homer Simpson,
got your pics (thanks) but deleted your mail unfortunately.
Could you please send me your address again so I can send you my pictures ?
//Bide59
How to see the pictures on this forum. I can see string to submit pictures but how to retrieve them?
I need a quick questioned answered:
I book into Flipper lodge and the now say they are doing renovations to the hotel for the time period I want, Has any stayed at FLIPPER HOUSE HOTEL?? any comments.
Thanks,
Dr. C
Great stuff, khun and bide59, keeping up with Traveler's high standards. Thanks!
Khun, you get to the pics from the Home link up on the top left of the page, but I don't think anything's been updated for more than a year.
khun and joe_zop,
I sent my pictures to Jackson so we have to wait until he uppdates the gallery. In the meantime, give me your e-mail adress and I can send some pics to you. Maybe you have some to share with ?
adress: villhakul@yahoo.com
//bide59
Dr. Cop :
Regarding Flipper Lodge, haven't stayed there, but had a look at the rooms just two weeks ago. I don't like them, rooms are quite basic and a bit worn down. There are better rooms available for the same amount or even cheaper. Avoid the surplus for the so called sea view. It's just that the room will face the beach, but that doesn't mean that you can see it.
If you like to stay at soi 8 try the Sunbeam or Eastiny Inn. Same price like Flipper Lodge but cleaner/newer rooms. As far as I remember Eastiny also got a nice pool.
Ice Inn at Second Road between Mike and Soi 9 is ok as well. Big aircon rooms with TV and huge frige at 600 - 700 baht.
Hope it helps.
Hey all,
Been to Pattaya before and went to a soapy soap near the shopping center. Actually, it was right next to the shopping mall (the mall with the KFC, theatres, some Japanese restaraunt). Know which one i'm talking about? Anyway, when i went to this massage parlor (the one with the big fish bowl type) i paid 2500 baht for a two-three hour session for a shower / massage / intercourse session. I was just wondering, if you have been to the same place i am talking about, did I pay too much? The ladies there were very beautiful - not the ones you find at the bars that line the streets. This place was very sleek and the women sleeker (high-class). Not the kind of girls you could take back to your room for a mere 500 baht. If you could tell me if I paid too much, feel free to edcate me on the price differential.
Thanks,
CC
ClitCommander :
See my reports from last month. Tap and me had been in all three soapies close to BIG C, Sabailand, Sabai Dee and Sabai Room.
Both charge for a 90 - 120 min session 1.500 as far as I recall. If you really got 3hrs then the price is ok, otherwise they charged you. Furthermore you should tip the girls depending on the services provided. FS should be about another 500 tip.
Anyway, you can take the girls to your room if you want and they agree. Price depends on time of day. See my reports for the prices. Goy, no 176 at Sabailand (recommend her), told me the different prices. Early afternoon was about 1.500 or so, late evening just 600.
Have fun.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dr. Cop
[i]I need a quick questioned answered:
I book into Flipper lodge and the now say they are doing renovations to the hotel for the time period I want, Has any stayed at FLIPPER HOUSE HOTEL?? any comments.
Thanks,
Dr. C [/i][/QUOTE]
I have stayed at both Flipper House and Lodge. I liked both of them, great staffs and a good price. At Flipper Lodge I do pay the extra baht for seaview. Get a 4th or 5th floor rooms have less street noise.
Sexreview
Next Question, What is the web site or contact info for both the Eastiny Inn or Place, How do I find out the rates and what type of rooms and make a reservation???
Thanks, Dr. "C"
The Traveler
Sunbeam seems like a good choice but standard rooms look a bit rundown in their website. Also, Is it guest friendly?
jodo+
[QUOTE]Originally posted by jodomas
[i]The Traveler
Sunbeam seems like a good choice but standard rooms look a bit rundown in their website. Also, Is it guest friendly?
jodo+ [/i][/QUOTE]
Yes it is guest friendly like all the hotels on Soi 7 and 8. The rooms are better in person than on the web site.
Sexreview
Hi everyone,
I have a bunch of pictures from my trip to Pattaya which I would like to share with you. The respons was that enormous that my mailbox got overloaded. I opened a Yahoo group where you can find my best ones, enjoy under
http://*************************thaipics
Please feel free to add your own pictures. I would like to see yours too.
/bide59
Excellent Photos, Hope to see the girls in a couple of weeks...
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dr. Cop
[i]Next Question, What is the web site or contact info for both the Eastiny Inn or Place, How do I find out the rates and what type of rooms and make a reservation???
Thanks, Dr. "C" [/i][/QUOTE]
I have a business card from the Eastiny Place.
Location is 315/2-3 Mu 10
Pattaya Beach Road, Soi 8
Banglamung Chonburi 20260 Thailand
Tel (6638)427702-5
email : eastinyp@ptty.loxinfo.co.th , eastinyinn@hotmail.com
I was there in mid Feb, and the rates were 800baht for a standard, 1200 for a suite (but people in the pool can look in your room), and 1800 for a good suite. I stayed in the standard room, and it was quite nice. Make sure you ask them to put you on the side furthest from Soi 8, so you can have peace and quiet. I stayed there and it is right in the middle of the action. Clean rooms, and good service. I would recommend it to anyone. I would stay there again. Breakfast is not included, but was an extra 120baht. Enjoy, and let me know how you like the place.
Well, just got into Pattaya about 2 hours ago from Bangkok, Friday afternoon and Songkran is in full swing, water everwhere. Was not even out of the cab 30 seconds and got powdered in the face, but she was cute so not that bad. I think I will stick around Walking Street tonight should be less water. I know one thing for sure don't want to be anywhere near Soi 7 and 8 the kings of the water. Will report later.
Sexreview
arriving bangkok on Monday, just wondering if the SARS epidemic, war with Iraq, and economy has reduced the number of guys travelling to Pattaya and if so, are the prices any cheaper?
Also, what is the latest on the Penhouse? I was there last time and the rooms were affordble, but there was street noise and the AC broke, so I had to change rooms.
I came back 4/8 so this info is a little dated - but the number of F'rangs seems to be down significantly (according to locals - they estimate 75%). Lady prices aren't they seem to be the same but the girls seem to be looking for a "sugar daddy" (which I'm not). (but pattaya is so cheap relatively anyway...) Penthouse offered me an inside room for 650B (so no noise) Depends on what you use the room for - sleeping, bonking as long as it's cool and secure, what does it matter? I thought about trying one of the 300B AC rooms (no-name hotels) and seeing what they were like
Well, have been in Pattaya for 48 hours now and I can tell you the number of guys in town is way down from early in the year. Even Songkran on the 19th yesterday was not as wild as in the past. And prices are down because of less clients.
About Songkran in Pattaya:
You will get wet, if you try to fight it you will lose. Your best option is to just join in for the day and have fun. Saturday was the biggest water fight of my life. Thousands of people and a big party. No ONE was dry in the city, even the police were soaked. So my running buddy and I just joined in with the party. Picked up a pair of water pack guns and left second road and south Pattaya road heading towards Soi 8, then around Soi 7 and back up beach road to walking street. Three and one half hours later, and 150 liters of water from my gun I was all done. Want to see the biggest wet t-shirt contest in the world come to Pattaya for Songkran. The down side they also throw and try to put white baby powder and starch on your face and body. The powder burns your eyes. Our answer was to double team them with shots of water to the face and most times the two Americans (us) won the battle. As I said a big water fight and playing like a kid again.
Saturday Night
By night fall most water had stopped and the parties moved into the bars. Living Dolls, Showcase, Misty's , Classroom all still great. In Electric Blues something new this trip. About half the servers are wearing hooters t-shirts cut off so the nipples are put and showing, a really great look.
Barfined fro Living Dolls first night, a server so 600 baht plus 1000 ST, would have stayed but I wanted to sleep. And the second night Misty's feature girl from January (see web site) Nid I had seen her before, as always great service 600 baht plus 1000 baht. My running partner is with a girl from Honey A Go Go who he had in October, he is paying a bar fine of 500 baht and 1500 day and she wants to stay with him 24/7.
Other than it being very hot it is a great time to be here.
Sexreview
[QUOTE]Originally posted by dinghy
[i] thought about trying one of the 300B AC rooms (no-name hotels) and seeing what they were like [/i][/QUOTE]
I stayed at "Sawadee Court" in a soi on second road for a night (with the newbie in my last story, yes that happened there only) @ B 400 (AC room). (We checked in at 3.00am) Not a bad idea if you are coming back to room just for Boom Boom. If you are not a person who like to stay more at the room. Nice clean room but small in size. Little bigger than double bed & with attached bath (no tub).
I feel sometime boom boom at matterss build up of springs is very difficult
Enjoy
I don't uderstand how some guys can come to Pattaya on vacation and stay with one girl. My running partner is back to the same girl again, had her the first two nights and last night our fourth here. She got mad when he didn't take her on Sunday night so he had to take her last night.
Sunday;
Made the rounds Pattayaland and Walking Street, not many people around as Songkran was over and the Bangkok crowd had left to go home. Classroom and Misty's both had several cute girls working the few clients in the clubs hard. Went over to Electric Blue and saw several of the dancers from living dolls who have switched clubs. Stayed for the sex show that started around 10:00 and then we head out again. Made a quick stop in Honey A Go Go to see a friend, Honey is not really a great club, most of the dancers are just average at best. But I did spot a new cute one, looked young (20) and very sweet. After a little investagation I had the story. Started work three days before, never had a bar fine or a Faulong, just a Thai boyfriend. Well, the target was set, time to just move in for the kill. She was so sweet and green it was great. No hard bar girl here, just a great little Thai girl. When I took her one of the other girls set the deal for her, 1000 baht ST, 1500 BT LT. Went back to the hotel and did the deed, she was one nice girl. A very very tight fit but ready and willing to please any way I wanted. After a couple of hours I left it up to her LT, ST, her wouldn't leave. Went bac out to Pattayaland to see her older sister also a dancer (ALL GIRLS A GO GO) and then a bite to eat and back to the room for round two and then round three next morning. Her name is Newt and her number is 21, whorth taking guys.
Monday:
Made the rounds again and took a girl from Diamond A Go Go. This is a smaller club on Soi Diamond, drink prices are low and the girls low key. Q #7 was the winner here, but both #9 and # 36 are also great. Very tired, but did a photo shoot with her and went a round at night and one this morning. Bar fine 500 bt, she never asked how much I give her just said up to me, so I paid her 1500 baht and she was happy.
Pattaya is the real play ground of Thailand it has it all over Bangkok. That is the report for today.
From Pattaya
Sexreview.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by SexReview
[i]....new cute one, looked young (20) and very sweet.....She was so sweet and green it was great. No hard bar girl here, just a great little Thai girl. .....she was one nice girl. A very very tight fit but ready and willing to please any way I wanted. .......Her name is Newt and her number is 21, whorth taking guys.
That is the report for today.
From Pattaya
Sexreview. [/i][/QUOTE]
Thanks sexreview
I like this way when you report a pearl you find & recommend others with the strings link to her/to spot her. This is in real sense a use of this forum when you can get some tengible information & enjoy that.
soon I will see her....
Changed things up a bit this evening. Not a Go GO Bar night but time to hit hte beer bars. So Soi 7 was on the menu for the evening. First of lots of girls working Soi 7, as many as I saw during the peak of high season in January. The differance is only about 20 percent of the guys are around. So the girls seem to be really hungery and looking for a customer. With 200 baht bar fines and 500 baht short times how can you go wrong? Found a cute girl I had seen before and took her and her friend. Mog and Na are two worth taking a look at. Both work at Happyness Star bar which always seems to have a few real lookers to pick from.
Baht Bus Drivers:
One thing I've never done is let anyone rip me off. So when the drivers have tried to overcharge me in the passed, I have always just paid the fare 5 baht. Yes that is right the legal fare for all is 5 baht. Those signs that say 10 baht are the max fare per person for a group. During my January trip I would have a fight a day over the fare, but now in April not one problem with a driver, business is so slow that they value every client.
From Pattaya
Sexreview
sexreview,
That's good info to know, and the fact that those max fare signs are not in both Thai and English is a big red flashing light that screams, "ripoff." :)
poster...
[QUOTE]Originally posted by SexReview
[i]Baht Bus Drivers:
One thing I've never done is let anyone rip me off. So when the drivers have tried to overcharge me in the passed, I have always just paid the fare 5 baht. Yes that is right the legal fare for all is 5 baht. Those signs that say 10 baht are the max fare per person for a group. During my January trip I would have a fight a day over the fare, but now in April not one problem with a driver, business is so slow that they value every client.
[/i][/QUOTE]
the best way in that case is keep some coins in the pocket & pay 5 baht only. thay will not ask you for more as they will understand you know the fare.
UHHHH... guys, 5B vs 10B is the difference between .11 US and .22 US.
You mean to say that a LOUSY DIME matters? I SPILL THAT MUCH.
Now when I got to Pattaya and tried to figure out how to get down to "beach road" with a "somewhat" unscrupulos Baht-bus driver, he tried to rip the 2 of us off (The Swede I rode in from BKK with) for 500!! B (to which his told "you get 100B like it or not)
Thanks again for all the great posters on this board as I have learned much for my upcoming trip. Was just wondering if it is necessary to have something in Pattaya pre-booked or if there should be plenty decent places to spend the night in the monger area that I could just find someplace when I arrived. I will be travelling in mid to late May. Any insight into this would be appreciated.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by JohnnieBravo
[i]Thanks again for all the great posters on this board as I have learned much for my upcoming trip. Was just wondering if it is necessary to have something in Pattaya pre-booked or if there should be plenty decent places to spend the night in the monger area that I could just find someplace when I arrived. I will be travelling in mid to late May. Any insight into this would be appreciated. [/i][/QUOTE]
You should have no problem finding a place to stay in Pattaya. One thing you may want to do is prebook a place for your first day. And then look around once here. You really don't want to be hunting for a place to stay your first night, better to get here and just have fun.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by dinghy
[i]UHHHH... guys, 5B vs 10B is the difference between .11 US and .22 US.
You mean to say that a LOUSY DIME matters? I SPILL THAT MUCH.
Now when I got to Pattaya and tried to figure out how to get down to "beach road" with a "somewhat" unscrupulos Baht-bus driver, he tried to rip the 2 of us off (The Swede I rode in from BKK with) for 500!! B (to which his told "you get 100B like it or not) [/i][/QUOTE]
It is not the money amount, it is about stealing. I don't let anyone steal from me be it for a penny or for a million dollars. What is mine is mine asnd don't try to take it.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by dinghy
[i]UHHHH... guys, 5B vs 10B is the difference between .11 US and .22 US. You mean to say that a LOUSY DIME matters? I SPILL THAT MUCH.
[/i][/QUOTE]
I paid 3000 B to a girl I enjoyed with, but it may be rip off for some people. I know I spoiled the price of a girl. and many people like me can spoil the whole market. Its not 5B or 10B & specially if you convert to doller. Why don't you pay the girls in dollers like you will be doing in US. The price difference is the root cause you people are coming to asia from thousand kilometers. Don't tell me you cann't get a ride in US at ant cost.
Last week when I was Phuket, I was shocked with baht bus asking 100 baht for 1 kM. 20 times of Pattaya. Some people pay them. and sure some of the spillers will spoil pattaya also.
Pay a price according to the rate. If you have more to spill, spill at conrect place.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by dinghy
[i]UHHHH... guys, 5B vs 10B is the difference between .11 US and .22 US. You mean to say that a LOUSY DIME matters? I SPILL THAT MUCH.
[/i][/QUOTE]
I paid 3000 B to a girl I enjoyed with, but it may be rip off for some people. I know I spoiled the price of a girl. and many people like me can spoil the whole market. Its not 5B or 10B & specially if you convert to doller. Why don't you pay the girls in dollers like you will be doing in US. The price difference is the root cause you people are coming to asia from thousand kilometers. Don't tell me you cann't get a ride in US at ant cost.
Last week when I was Phuket, I was shocked with baht bus asking 100 baht for 1 kM. 20 times of Pattaya. Some people pay them. and sure some of the spillers will spoil pattaya also.
Pay a price according to the rate. If you have more to spill, spill at correct place.
Khun,
'the best way in that case is keep some coins in the pocket & pay 5 baht only. thay will not ask you for more as they will understand you know the fare.'
What can I say but 'spot on!'. In fact, simply paying the right amount is the best, if not only, way to get rid of all bargaining...
In Phuket the Baht buses are slightly different from the ones elsewhere. Always bargain HARD! After 6PM everything turns taxi.
The B20 ride from Town to Patong goes from B20 to B500 or over if you're stupid...
There is nothing wrong with paying a girl B3,000. As long as you know you pay her a very high wages. But if you think that B3,000 girls are all there is, think again.
Dinghy,
'You mean to say that a LOUSY DIME matters? I SPILL THAT MUCH.'
What can I say but 'all wrong!'
Do you pay twice the busfare at home? Do you pay twice the price of a beer at home? Do you pay twice the airfare getting to Thailand? So why would you pay twice the price in Thailand?
Also, if you take a normal bus from Ekamai or Morchit to Pattaya, there is no way in hell that you can miss the signs saying: 'BEACH B20'.
Posterlion,
'the fact that those max fare signs are not in both Thai and English is a big red flashing light that screams, "ripoff." '
Ehhr, if the signs are there, they are in both Thai and English. But the fare always applies, wether the sign is there or not.
Freeler,
I never took a cab there but had heard about it from friends in BKK. The only time I ever went down there was with a girl from BKK that drove me there for the weekend. We stayed in the KSC internet office with a friend of hers that worked there. No hot water and no AC (but good fan).
Therefore, I have never mongered in Pattaya. I should probably refrain from posting on this board until I have had a TG there, and for that matter, actually been in a cab there. :)
A lot of times signs that are in English only are a dead give away for a scam, no matter what country you are in (except of course, English speaking countries.)
Thanks for the correction,
poster...
Yesterday was a strange one for me in Pattaya. Didn't really have a lot of plans for the day very hot and sunny. Thought about taking a trip to the Island to do some photo wi\ork but took a pass and got some much needed sleep. My partner took his girl to the Island and they had a great time. Theferry is a good deal at 20 baht each way.
So the plan was last night to go out along Walking Street and Pattayaland to take pictures of the door girls. I had had some request for photos of the dancers at Classroom A Go Go on Pattayaland 2 so I thought it would be a good time to do. I found two little hotties that I knew would shooot great and be lots of fun after the shoot. #95 had only been at the club 2 days and no bar fines. Talked to both girls and no problem with them but they said they must asked Momason if they can leave. Ask Momason if they can leave I'm paying to let them leave that is the reson for bar fines here. Monason came over and said they could leave at midnight it was 8 at night. F..... that I'm not waiting. Then changed to 10:00 then ok one girl at 9:00. I ended up walking out and taking no one from classroom. So the bar lost 1200 baht and the girls a couple thousand each. I always paid for the photos as it is a business deal and I get full releases.
Bottom line be careful withj Classroom they play by their own rules.
Sexreview
Is it typical that they don't answer email? I've tried both email addresses with no response. Any recommendations?
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Phuquer
[i]I have a business card from the Eastiny Place.
Location is 315/2-3 Mu 10
Pattaya Beach Road, Soi 8
Banglamung Chonburi 20260 Thailand
Tel (6638)427702-5
email : eastinyp@ptty.loxinfo.co.th , eastinyinn@hotmail.com
I was there in mid Feb, and the rates were 800baht for a standard, 1200 for a suite (but people in the pool can look in your room), and 1800 for a good suite. I stayed in the standard room, and it was quite nice. Make sure you ask them to put you on the side furthest from Soi 8, so you can have peace and quiet. I stayed there and it is right in the middle of the action. Clean rooms, and good service. I would recommend it to anyone. I would stay there again. Breakfast is not included, but was an extra 120baht. Enjoy, and let me know how you like the place. [/i][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Freeler
[i]Khun,
There is nothing wrong with paying a girl B3,000. As long as you know you pay her a very high wages. But if you think that B3,000 girls are all there is, think again.
[/i][/QUOTE]
I know very well the rate is not B 3,000 in Pattaya. Being a member of this forum I know the prices very well. Actualy I did not fix price before hand & afterward I did not like to fight with the girl I fuc.k tight hard without KY.
Ah! Yes! The old refrain! Like love, love, love. Is there any question more important that that old chestnut: how much should one pay and/or how much can one get away with paying? Freeler does seem to count the pennies. But against that, it must be stated no one (should) like to get ripped off. Word gets around and if guys are paying 10 bt instead of 5 bt, 100 bt instead of 50 bt, then as Khun shows, they end up paying 100 instead of 10, 3,000 instead of 1,000 etc. One good thing about getting a bargain basement deal is to know what the price range actually is. Freeler got a fuck for 50 bt, others have paid maybe 50,000 bt.
A good example of this is the barfine. If you are into GFE or whatever, 200 bt is probably ok. But guys are paying 600 bt and more and then paying 2-3k bt for what the bargirls will supply for 1k bt. Sometimes, not alway, the go go girl will be "better". Me, I prefer them "poor but honest". I prefer freelancers. But i am only a skinhead.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by SeattleGman
[i]Is it typical that they don't answer email? I've tried both email addresses with no response. Any recommendations? [/i][/QUOTE]
I have never sent them email. I had stayed there in Feb. and I took one of their business cards. That's how I got the information. My only other suggestion would be to give them a call. It's a pretty nice place, and close to the action. I think it would be worth a call.
About Food:
Here are a few thoughts about eating in Pattaya. You really don't ned to spend a lot of money to enjoy good meals here. For Breckfast I have three buffets that I like to go to. All are on Second Road right around Soi 12. All are the same price at 85 baht. The Lek and Apex hotels both offer service until 1:00pm and have good food a plus is if with a Thai girl they have many Thai items to keep her happy. The down side is both are open air so no A/c and no made to order eggs. The Diana Inn only services until 11am but is indoors with A-c a big plus on a hot April day they also do made to order eggs but limited Thai food and stop serving early.
For lunch I like the third floor of the Royal Garden Mall in the food court. You need to purchase a food card for whatever amount you want and anything left on it you can use for 14 days are cash in. Many different types of food here all cheap and very tastie. A meal will run well under 100 baht. This is also a great place to pick up girls. Most fast food places can be found around the mall too.
On Soi Diamond of Walking Street you will find Swizz and Momas right across from each other. Both have two complete diner specials, each night for 195 baht and 230 baht. It is a great deal for a white table cloth place that would be 35 to 40 dollars in the states. At the other end of Pattaya Second road is BIg C Mall with several choices for food. They are very good and resonable in price. I find I can eat very well in Pattata for less than $10 dolars per day. One last point the big name places on Walking Street are nice but you pay for the location.
Classroom Update Soi Pattayaland 2
Yesterday I got the two girls I wanted out of Classroom. The momason let them bar fine but onl;y for short time. Which was fine bacause I wanted to do a photo shoot and had other plans after. Bar fined #95 18 yrs old 40 kilo and 5'4" tall also #74 23 yrs old and 42 kilo 5'2' tall. Interesting to note both girls had been working less than two weeks. Overall things worked out but this Go GO is just two hard to deal with I don't recommend it.
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Khun,
I know very well that you know your prices.
So 'But if you think that B3,000 girls are all there is, think again.' wasn't meant for you but for the people who actually think that B3,000 in general is OK. Sorry for the confusion, it must be my bad English.
Skinless,
As you very well know I thought the B50 girl was joking about her price. This from my original report:
'... the one I picked up lastnight for fuck'n'go had a swell pussy! Jao asked for only B50 and I, STUPID ME!, thought she was joking, so I offered B100. She almost jumped for joy...
What is this world coming too?'
Dammit, I paid twice the price:(!
[QUOTE]Originally posted by SexReview
[i]About Food:
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Another good alternative that is available in Pattaya, as it is in a few places in Bangkok (Siam Center, and Ratchada Mall, to name a couple), is S&P. You can get a couple of pretty good non Thai dishes here, but their Thai food is really good. Their menu has lots of photos, so people who don't know how to order Thai food can see what they are ordering. In all, a good place to get a meal, and the prices are inexpensive. They are at the shopping mall (I forget the name, but probably Mikes Shopping Mall). on Beach Road.
Skewered and roasted on a spit for 5B. <cowering> whimper whimper...
OK so next trip I'll pay the songtaew the "official" 5B in Pattaya. OK now one for the group - HOW do you figure out where they are heading? Coming off beach road they get to 2nd road and some turn left, some head toward Jomtien. Any way to know in advance (with VERY limited Thai)?
I was walking on 2nd road down toward the Jomtien cut-off and got more or less picked up by a street girl who lead me back to her room. It was going to be a cheapie BJ - 200B but she wouldn't let me check the plumbing so I walked. Didn't look katoey so I wonder if it was her timeof the month. Anyway, no plumbing verification, no go.
Food - y'know it's pretty hard to eat a whole bunch (food, that is) in tropical weather (dropped almost 17 pounds in 12 days) so most of the buffets are limited value, but what I found is that a "light" breakfast of Thai soup with a couple of fried eggs lasts pretty much all day. They were intrigued at a leftie with chopsticks who eats at a spice level equivalent to a Thai (had a difficult time convincing them that I REALLY meant it when I said "Thai spicy")
Hey Free - where WAS this "one buckie fuckie" (and you paid 2) anyway? Not Pattaya? (just curious)
Dinghy,
'HOW do you figure out where they are heading?'
By pointing!
N-E-V-E-R talk to the driver!
Do not point with one finger but make a gentle gesture with your whole arm pointing in the general direction you want to go.
Suppose you're on SecondRoad and SoiPattayaLand and you want to go well into CentralRoad, just point down SecondRoad and then indicate a right turn.
If they stop, they're going in your direction.
You could walk to the best spot to get on, I mean, if you were getting on a bus, wouldn't you walk to the busstop? Same-same here.
Basicly, in Pattaya all you can lose is B5 if make the wrong choice...
'Anyway, no plumbing verification, no go.'
Good thinking! If she was a bargirl she wouldn't have paid her own barfine:)!
Food. For me: Very light breakfast - toasts or soup, fruits or fruitjuice for lunch and a Thai dish for dinner. I can't imagine how people can get a B85 buffet down...
The B50 fuck upgraded to a B100 fuck took place in Phitsanulok, city of rats and cockroaches:D.
[quote]originally posted by samus aran
[i]sex review:
friend, i had those same girls you are talking about 3 months ago in my room. why do you believe the mamasan that these girls are "country fresh?" didn't you know that this is the line evrywhere! i thought you were a pro at this stuff but i guess not. stop thinking you are getting the "virgins." pattaya is for washed up pros. stop worrying about length of service and get into humping these girls.
your friend
samus aran [/i][/quote]
samus aran,
we all know your dislike for pattaya so i would except nothing less of a comment from you. but a couple of problems with your "story"three months ago i was in pattata for six weeks and in these bars. these girls where not working then. that is point one, point two i have their thai id cards on digital photo, one turn 18 10 days ago the other turn 18 last month. so when you say "friend, i had those same girls you are talking about 3 months ago in my room. " if "believe" you then you are going with ****d girls? because that is the only answer, you lie or you take ****d girls which one is it?
as stated your views on pattaya are clear on the board but next time try toi come up with something better.
sexreview
Well Guys,
Cobra Gold has hit Pattaya. Saw the first signs of the GI's on Friday morning, a few around Friday night in the bars. Saturday the MP s started to come into the bars and by tonight Sunday every bar I hit on Walking Street and Pattayaland II was 50 percent GI filled. Cobra Gold doesn't start for almost 2 weeks but the advance guys are here now.
Sexreview
Hi SexReview...
Topic: Gold Cobra
Thanks for your information. Do you you know how long they want be in Pattaya ?
Can anyone tell me what is going on during the Gold Cobra period?
The price for the girls is getting higher?
or...
Thanks
Sting
Here the first report from a real Pattaya lover!
I go every year to Pattaya for about 2 month's, because my girlfriend lives there. When I read all the great experiences about other Thai beauties, I feel a bit envious; but also surprised , how much is paid for hotelrooms and girls!
For a hotelroom the price is between 300B and 700B p/d. When you go a little more outsite the tourist area, Naklua road, soi 13, there is a nice clean hotel, named Cristal Palace(pink) the price p/d is 200B . I also found on the internet this website www.pornholiday.info they offer you 1 year free living in Pattaya (and a lot off free p.pictures).
But o.k enough about money!!! My self go always secretly to shorttime bars, because my girlfriend is very willing in bed, but no BBBJ. That's why I go for a BBBJ to pattayaland 2; to the billion bar. At the end of January, I went there, to look if the was a nice girl for me. The bar is long and narrow, on one site there are wall-tables, on the other site is the bar. When I was on my way to the back, I felt a hand touching my crotch. I looked arround for the owner of the hand, and at that moment I felt like frozen to the ground, because I looked straight in the face of a white Thai girl, with the same horny face as my favourite '90 pornstar Mimi Miyaki. We talked a little and she told me her name was Nam, and in less than 5 minutes she asked "you want go" and pointed upstairs.Of course I wanted that. I paid the bar 500B (for everything included!!!)
Upstairs we took a shower first, and then went to this small clean (bed)room with red light, so the sphere was erotic. I laid on the bed and made my self clear , that I wanted her to give me a nice BBBJ. And good lord , what then happened I never forget!!! She started off, to give me a few small kisses on the mouth, and then she went down, making a small track with the tip of her tongue, first my neck and than my nipples.(her hand had in the meantime found his way to my scrotum, she gave a soft massage, so my sacred member begun to rize). Her tongue went down to my navel, and there her tongue made small circles. I couldn't hardly wait until she reached my sacred member. She went down and instead of going straight to my member, she went to my scrotum, She took one by one my testicles in her mouth and bite gently on them. With this beautiful horny face so close to my big member, I wanted noting more in the world, than that she took him inside her sexy mouth! She went up too the root of my big member now, and went all up to the head, by licking the shaft with the tip of her tongue. Then she opened her mouth and took the full member, slowly sliding in her mouth,(with her face turned to me, so she looked at me by doing so! What a horny,horny sight! She begun to slide my big member in and out her mouth, suddenly she took him deep insite her mouth and sucked her cheeks in, so my big member got stuck insite her mouth. I never experienced this horny feeling before, and the only thing I wanted was to climax. Her hand who was still massaging my testicles, felt this, because she took my big sacred member just outsite her mouth, so I had my shooting on my own belly. Afterwards we showered again, and I gave her 100B (=2 euro/us) tip money!
In the 4 remaining weeks in Pattaya, I went 3 times more for a nice horny BBBJ, from her!
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Sting
[i]Hi SexReview...
Topic: Gold Cobra
Thanks for your information. Do you you know how long they want be in Pattaya ?
Can anyone tell me what is going on during the Gold Cobra period?
The price for the girls is getting higher?
or...
Thanks
Sting [/i][/QUOTE]
Business has been hard hit here by SARS so for the most part the prices are staying about the same. More ggirls want to do short time so they can do a couple of dates in a night. The short time rooms are open at most places on Soi Pattayaland II, I know Misty's girls are pushing for in house short times 1600 baht complete with room, bar fine and girls fee. Many bars like Super Baby are hurting for business, top level girls that I had to wait a week for in January to do photo shoots with told me they have not bar fined in a few weeks. The bars that saw a large amount of Asian travelers really neeed Cobra Gold to make it. The Corbra Gold war games end around May 26 (check back a few weeks I posted the dates) but the GI's stay around until June. Don't changer plans to come here just because of Cobra Gold, lots of girls for all.
Sexreview
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Samus Aran
[i]In response to the email:
Certainly there are cheap places to stay in Pattaya. Some of us choose to stay in more lavish surroundings ie swimming pools, exercise room, internet, clean stainless sheets, large bed with appropriate mattress, a bathtub instead of a bucket and sponge. There are all types of accomodations... even in Disney World there are all types of hotels with varying prices. I sense from the email that he is wondering about why some men pay more money. Let me ask him this... Why spend $50,000 for a BMW when a Honda for $20,000 does the same trick? It is up to the consumer, you get what you pay for, I guess.
Samus Aran [/i][/QUOTE]
I agree with Samus Aran, all different prices for rooms here, I have tried many of them from 400 baht rooms at white Inn to 5000 baht rooms at the Hard Rock. I have found in general you can have a great place to stay for 800 to 1000 baht. And as you know it is about the place you like because the girls don't care, most if not almost all hotels better than the rooms they rent and live in. So pick a room you like and just have fun. My own personal choice is Soi 8 at places like Flipper, Eastiny, and Sunbeam.
Sexreview
Just trying to finish my arrangements for my mid-May trip to Bkk and Pattaya. Has anyone ever stayed or know anything about the Queen Victoria Inn? Also I understand the Flipper has two locations......is one better then the other? It seems like the Penthouse is a pretty interesting place......anyone had any experience with this place? Also, I've read a lot about a place called The Residence Garden, does anyone know anything about this place?? Thanks again for everyones wonderful help and suggestions.......I will be sure and post some good reports of my newbie experiences there.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by JohnnieBravo
[i]Just trying to finish my arrangements for my mid-May trip to Bkk and Pattaya. Has anyone ever stayed or know anything about the Queen Victoria Inn? Also I understand the Flipper has two locations......is one better then the other? It seems like the Penthouse is a pretty interesting place......anyone had any experience with this place? Also, I've read a lot about a place called The Residence Garden, does anyone know anything about this place?? Thanks again for everyones wonderful help and suggestions.......I will be sure and post some good reports of my newbie experiences there. [/i][/QUOTE]
JohnnieB,
I will try to answer your questions as I have been in or stayed at all these hotels. First the Residence Garden, a great place big nice rooms but out of the way. I fee to far from the action, not on best Baht Bus route and a good 15 minute walk to Walking Street. The Flipper Group are on Soi 7 & 8, Flipper Hotel is on Soi 7 near second road side it is the newer of the two and rooms a little bigger. Flipper Lodge is on Soi 8 only about 125 yards off Beach Road. The rooms are a little smaller but I like the staff and location better. Both are very very loud because of the beer bars, don't plan on sleeping between midnight and 2:00AM will not happen. Between the two I would take Flipper Lodge and I was there this January for four weeks no problems at all. Been in the Queen Victoria Inn and I was not impressed by the place you are bettter of at Flipper. The Penthouse is right on Soi Pattayaland II also known as Soi 13/4. It is in the hHeart of Pattayaland. The rooms are nice and set up as sex dens, red lights etc, only five minutes to Walking Street on foot and five minutes by Baht Bus to Soi 8 & 7 beer bars. Many of my friends like the place I don't want to be on Pattayaland II because I barfine several girls from area and can't get into hotel without being seen. Also note the gay bars are very close to hotel, one right nest to it which can be a turn off to many. Before this currt trip I would have said go to Flipper Lodge, but I tried Eastiny Hotel this time and the service and rooms are better, nice pool, breakfast is incluled in rate and great staff. Also they have direct dial phones so you can plug lap top in if you like. Hope this information helps.
Sexreview
THAI GIRLS & GOLD
Well, I saw it happen again guys, my friend who left Pattaya for the states last night told me before coming that this trip would be different. He had met a girl on our trip here last Oct and fell hard for her. I knew more about her than he did as she is the roomate of another good friend of mine. A expat who has been in Pattaya for many years. But things don't change, leading up to our trip he told me that he would spend some time with her but not the whole trip. Well, he was in Pattaya this time for 11 nights and 10 of them with her. Doesn't sound like less time to me but more time than our Oct trip.
So she pushed for the gold before he left and yesterday afternoon I find myself in a gold shop with him. This morning I get a call from her " take me to the gold shop I want a different item". So this afternoon back to the shop ansd she trades in the one day old chain for a different one, double the baht size.
GUYS YOU BUY GOLD FOR A THAI GIRL SHE JUST SEES IT AS CASH, WHAT MORE NEEDS TO BE SAID. SO IF YOU WANT TO SPEND THE BAHT DON'T THINK SHE SEES IT AS ANYTHING BUT A BIG TIP.
Sexreview
Well, last day today in Pattaya. Late tonight head to the airport and make the 24 hour flight back to the states. It has been a interesting trip and I will add sec\veral more posts from my notes over the next few days. For my somethings traveling Buddy Troy. Yes you are right the best way to get over this place is plan another trip. But we can talk about that next week when you fly up to Boston for that dinner.
Tried The Pump Station on Soi Post Office (Soi 13/2) today. It was the first time on the trip that I saw a cute girl sitting out front. For those that don't know the pump station is a BJ BAR with 15 top 20 girls working. The fee is 370 baht upstairs in semi public bar or 400 baht in a private room. The service was very good and the price fair.
More later
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SexReview
Your observation is correct but not alarming in any way. Baht is money and Baht is gold, and when you buy the latter, you don't pay for the design but for the weight.
It isn't that long since you had the same thing in the west: distrust to paper money made the gold standard and distrust to banks made you keep your cash in stones and metals.
And unlike us - thai people don't put love into metals - buying and selling metal is economics .......
[QUOTE]Originally posted by philo
[i]SexReview
Your observation is correct but not alarming in any way. Baht is money and Baht is gold, and when you buy the latter, you don't pay for the design but for the weight.
It isn't that long since you had the same thing in the west: distrust to paper money made the gold standard and distrust to banks made you keep your cash in stones and metals.
And unlike us - thai people don't put love into metals - buying and selling metal is economics ....... [/i][/QUOTE]
I agree with you gold is money here, but more than just money it is safety. If a girl has some gold she feels security and safe because she knows she may always sell if she is down on her luck or in trouble.
Well guys,
it's 9:30pm in Pattaya and I leave soon so this is it from Pattaya this trip. Bar fined a nice cute girl from Frozen A Go Go, back to the room for a few hours of short time and then hit the airport. So long Pattaya until I return in Dec. already counting the days.
Sexreview
JohnnieBravo :
I haven't stayed at the Flipper, but checked both just a few weeks ago. I found the rooms a bit worn down and not worth the money. There are better rooms in Pattaya, some even cheaper. Some others and me posted about the hotels at soi 7 and 8 about two weeks ago. Check these posts for advice. Eastiny Inn or Sunbeam would be my choice there.
Flipper is about 800 - 900
Residence Garden is located at the street leading to Jomtien beach, close to Mr. Mac. You have a living room with kitchenette, sleeping room, bathroom and a small balcony. Sleeping room is at the streets side, therefore loud, cause you will hear every motorbike passing by. Rooms are clean but location is a bit far from the action. 10 min walk to South Pattaya.
If you like it, book through freelancer bar, they have a special. Price is around 1200.
Penthouse. Had been there with Tap on my last trip just a few weeks ago. Rooms are very nice ranging from 890 - 6500. Depending what room you take. Cheaper rooms got a very small bathroom, won't even call it like that. Take a mini-suite for just 1400 (Tap and me had one), can bargain down to 1200. There are two different styles of a mini-suite. One or two rooms to share with a friend. They have different suites as well, up to three rooms with jacuzzi, dance stage and so on. Location is great but a bit loud. When we had been there even louder (starting from 2pm) because they did some reconstruction/remodelling of some rooms.
The gay bars close to it are no prob at all. Tap and me even went into one just for fun. Nobody will approach you and none of our girls were disturbed by it.
BTW, every room got a radio/casette/cd-player and a dvd/vcd player. Buy your favourite porn vcd at the street and tell your girl to take it as a blueprint :-)
Only disturbing thing about it was, that I saw bugs on a regular basis. Talked to manager/owner, he was well aware about it and told me that he just cancelled the contracts witrh both firms who should take care. Told him to hire Rent-To-Kill, they did a good job at my houses I used to have there a few years ago.
Sexreview mentioned that he can't get into the hotel without being seen by the girls he already barfined there.
First, girls are sitting/dancing inside, therefore they cannot see you. Just the girls who are trying to get the customers. I took some girls from there and never any prob. Secondly, who cares ??? I ST or LT, but do not marry them. None of their business and they know it too. Always be straight and do not ly, like "I will pick you up tonight again". If you want to get rid of them, then tell them goodbye. It's part of their business and they really prefer it that way, so no disappointing situations.
Gold :
As Sexreview said, it's like cash, so see it that way. I think it's a nicer way of paying a girl, especially if you stay with one longer and don't want to pay on a daily basis. My only prob is, I never stay with one long enough to buy some :-)
Email:
Enjoyed your little report. I am heading back to Pattaya in late June early July so I will try the bar you suggested. I myself is a big fan of Pump Station and Nice with Ice - I just think they are such a hoot. I mean what can be better than a BJ while sipping a cold beer.
On another note I am quite amuzed that you mentioned that my old friend Mimi Miyaki is you favourite porn star. Got a good one for you here - while I was in college in LA my roommates sister did porn and one of her friends was none less than Mimi so I have seen a fair share of her in real life. One funny episode was when we had a party one night the girls decided to put on a lesbo show (Mimi and Chyeene) and while they are getting it on with Miimi eating the other girl out from behind one of our other friends walk in with his mom. Talk about red face on our friends mom's face - hehhe. It made for a good laugh and both me and my friend have got some good milage out of that one. I guess the moral of the story is - don't bring your parents to a party if there are going to be porn star there.
If anyone will be in Pattaya around 6/24 and wants to get together to swap (stories that is), kick back a few brews and chase some tail let me know. I think I will be staying at the APEX or Ice Inn. Have anyone stayed at Day and Night Hotel? - some chick in Bangkok suggested that I stay there but I am not sure if taking hotel advise from a bargirl is advisable.
Traveler, when you say you regularly saw bugs at the Penthouse, do you mean cockroaches?
Gladiator :
Yes, I mean cockroaches.
Just the small ones, no huge ones (same size like "Mengdas").
I had some in my room, was thinking about moving, but payed in advance to get better price. Never did it before and won't do it again.
I also like to mention, that the maids did not clean the rooms properly. I once dropped one of the flowers/orchids they use to place everywhere on the floor, just in front of my roomdoor, so easy to see when entering the room. After one week it was still there. Also have a look at the cupboards, a lot of dust. They seem just to change sheets and towels, but that up to three times a day till 10pm.
If you are looking for a nice and clean place with a reasonable price try my favourite, Sabai Inn at Soi 2. They might now call for 900-1000, but I only have to pay 800. Couldn't stay there this time, cause they know me and my wife very well and this time I was there with tapioca, not with my wife :-)
i'll be yo ***** anyday traveller
tapioca
[QUOTE]Originally posted by tapioca
[i]i'll be yo ***** anyday traveller
tapioca [/i][/QUOTE]
traveller, I think tapioca.. ahem.. likes you:D
[QUOTE]Originally posted by LarryOne
[i]Email:
If anyone will be in Pattaya around 6/24 and wants to get together to swap (stories that is), kick back a few brews and chase some tail let me know. I think I will be staying at the APEX or Ice Inn. Have anyone stayed at Day and Night Hotel? - some chick in Bangkok suggested that I stay there but I am not sure if taking hotel advise from a bargirl is advisable. [/i][/QUOTE]
The Day and Night Hotel is a level or so below the Apex. The location is not as good being on South Pattaya Rd as the Apex on Second Rd. They handle a lot of tour groups at the Day and Night Hotel, so look for bus loads them to be there, but with SARS the tour business at the hotel is way down. I would stay with your choice of Apex out of the three.
DJ :
Now I know why Tap was so excited when we went into one of those gay gogo clubs :-)
lol:)
Previous comment about the Penthouse Hotel:
"Yes, I mean cockroaches.
Just the small ones, no huge ones (same size like "Mengdas").
I had some in my room, was thinking about moving, but payed in advance to get better price. Never did it before and won't do it again."
Just came back from staying at the Penthouse and I had the same problem. I saw the German cockroaches in the bedroom and the smaller bugs in the bathroom all the time. The bathroom is small and never dries from the shower.
When I asked the manager if they could spray for the cockroaches because I had paid in advance for the 4 day rate of 670 baht per night, he said, "It wouldn't do any good, they just keep coming back."
Next time I will not keep coming back to the Penthouse, I saw a better hotel off walking street for the same price, and it had an ocean view. I think it was called the Grand Hotel, if I am correct.
The_Traveler, npaul and others:
As priviously noted in the BKK forum JohnnieBravo does not deal well with roaches. Any of you guys found a pattaya place to stay that was free of roaches and reasonably close to the action?
Thanks again,
JohnnieBravo
didn't see cucharachas at Sureena (soi 13/2 AKA soi post office)
BUT I wasn't really looking too hard either (hmmm that could be taken the wrong way...)
JohnnieBravo :
Eastiny Inn at Soi 8 or Sabai Inn at Soi 2. Clean and nice. Never saw any bug at Sabai Inn and I am a regular guest for many years. Have been at Eastiny just once, but checked it this time again. Still very clean and closer to the action.
Electric Blue is one of the newer Go Go Clubs on Walking Street in Pattaya. This club is cutting edge and always trying new things. It is the only Go Go Club on Walking Street that is multi level. The club not only features a main stage at ground level but two more on the second level with see through floors. Also on the second level is a revolving stage. So you really get to see a lot of girls here. The latest changes here have been with the servers. First the girls working the second level went to hooters t-shirts cut off so they would show their nipples while serving. They also started to wear no panties under the skirts and were happy to show you for a small tip. Well this week that went one better, I was in the club on Tuesday night and the hooters tops were gone, now the servers are just plain topless. I don’t know of another club in the city were the servers are topless, it was a great sight. Andy really is trying to make this place different from all the rest.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by The_Traveler
[i]JohnnieBravo :
Eastiny Inn at Soi 8 or Sabai Inn at Soi 2. Clean and nice. Never saw any bug at Sabai Inn and I am a regular guest for many years. Have been at Eastiny just once, but checked it this time again. Still very clean and closer to the action. [/i][/QUOTE]
I never saw any bugs at the Eastiny Inn, and also always found it to be clean and neat. It is a very good choice if you want to be close to the action.
I've been staying at the Beverly Center Hotel. One block from Walking Street. I haven't seen a bug in the four days I've been here. Place is very clean. When maids aren't cleaning rooms you see them on their hands and knees scrubbing floors. Actually the only bugs I've seen in Pattaya since I've been here was a street vendor selling fried crickets, beetles, worms, etc.
So far, the best looking girls at Happy-a-go-go but very unfriendly. Living Dolls has good looking and friendly girls. It seems true here that the prettier the girl the less friendly. Anyone else here right now found a go-go with friendly and pretty girls, please let me know. If I find one I will.
Thanks for the info guys! I saw on another site that the Eastin charges 400 Baht for an overnight guest.... has this been the case with anyone on here?
[QUOTE]Originally posted by JohnnieBravo
[i]Thanks for the info guys! I saw on another site that the Eastin charges 400 Baht for an overnight guest.... has this been the case with anyone on here? [/i][/QUOTE]
Never paid a joiner fee at the Eastiny hotel. I have a friend who lived at the Eastiny Inn for almost two years and he never paid a joiner fee. I do not believe a hotel could be in business on Soi 8 and charge a joiner fee, remember this area is party centeral for Pattaya. In the past Soi 7 & 8 was the center of the beer bars in Pattaya, but now with four Go Go bars the area it has become a complete party area.
Ok so this will sound like a dumb question (not directly girl related) but... I'm planning on a 3weeker end of may, 2 weeks in June. What kind of weather can I expect? Yes, I know it's "rainy season" but there's "rainy" and there's "monsoon". Rain I can tolerate (I see enough of it 6 months of the year) monsoon is OK too, actually, just a natural warm shower.
Aside from that... I think this trip i'll go "out and about" because if I go to Pattaya FIRST it will be LAST (gawd, I love that place)
Samus, wait till you get older and then you'll appreciate Pattaya!
Not monsoon weather in May/June (lots more rain in Pattaya in September/October according to weather charts) but still more rain than the months leading up to that. June gets about the same amount of rain as November, but less sunshine, May about the same sun but lots more rain. You can find a good month by month chart at [url]http://www.traveleshop.com/weather/pyxw.shtml[/url] -- I've always found the weather info on this site to be pretty accurate.
Dinghy,
'Rainy season' = wet monsoon
'Dry season' = dry monsoon
The monsoon is the seasonal wind that comes from a certain (constant) direction.
The ElNino phenomenon strengthens both wet and dry monsoons.
In non mountainous regions most of the rain falls in the evening in the form of short bursts of torrential downpour, during the day it may drizzle for some hours.
In mountainous parts however, be prepared for losts of rain for most of the day...
Here the first report from a real Pattaya lover. I go every year to Pattaya for about 2 month's, because my girlfriend lives there. When I read all the great experiences about other Thai-beauties, I feel a bit envious; but also surprised , when you see how much is paid for hotelrooms and girls !!! for a hotelroom the price paid is 300B and 700B p/d (100B=2 euro/us). When you go a little more outsite the tourist area , Nuklua road , soi 13 , there is a good clean hotel named Cristal Palace (pink) , the price p/d is 200B.
But o.k enough about money!! My self go always secretly to shorttime bars , because my girlfriend is very willing in bed , but no BBBJ. That's why I go for a BBBJ to pattayaland 2; to the Billion bar. At the end of januari I went there , to look if there was a nice girl for me. The bar is long and narrow, on one site there are wall-tables , and on the other site the bar. When I was on my way to the back , I felt a hand touching my crotch. I looked arround for the owner of the hand , and at that moment I felt like frozen to the ground , because I looked straight in the face of a white Thai girl , with the same face as my favourite '90 pornstar Mimi Miyaki. We talked a little, and she told me her name was Nam , in less than 5 minutes she asked "you want go" and pointed upstairs. Of course I wanted that!!. I paid the bar 500B(everything included).Upstairs we took a shower first and than we went to this small , clean bedroom , with red light , so the sphere was erotic. I laid on the bed and made my self clear that I wanted her to give me a nice BBBJ!!!. And good lord , what happened then , I never forget !!!. She started off , to give me a few small kisses on the mouth , and than she went down , making a small track with the tip of her tongue, first my neck and than my nippels.( her hand had in the meantime found his way to my scrotum , she gave a soft massage , so my sacrad member begun to rice!). Her tongue went down to my navel and there he made small circles. I couldn't hardly wait until she reached my member !!. She went down , and instead of going straight to my member , she went first to my scrotum , there she took one by one my testicles in her mouth , and bite gently on them. With this beautiful horny face so close to my big member now , I wanted noting more in the world , than that she took him in her mouth!!!. She went up too the root of my big member and went all up too the head , by licking the shaft with the tip of her tongue. Then she opened her mouth and took the full member, slowly sliding down in her mouth, with her face turned to me , doing so!!!. (what a horny , horny sight!!!). She begun to slide my big member in and out her mouth , suddenly she took him deep insite her mouth , and sucked her cheeks in , so my big member get stuck in her mouth. I never experienced this horny feeling before , and the only thing I wanted was to explode deep in her mouth!!!. Her hand who was still massaging my testicles , felt this , because she took my big member just in time outsite her mouth , so I had my shooting on my own belly. Afterwards we showered again , and I gave her a tip off 100B. In the 4 remaining weeks in Pattaya , I went 3 times more for a nice horny BBBJ , from her !!!.
er... and speaking of "wet/dry" I guess I shouldn't try the bed wetter again either <smirk> anyway.. weather sounds similar to Honolulu. Funny thing was March/April it was dry the whole trip except for 1 day a downpour (early AM) and then dry
My rememberances about Happy - I didn't find the girls unfriendly, just not too interested in "going home with you". Beer bars seem to be the best deal but spotty quality. hopefully Electric Blue will be the same in 3 weeks as described for now. (sounds like my kinda place)
2-1/2 weeks to go...
anyway, Samus... what I meant was that as one gets older one tends to appreciate even feigned interest (I wonder if it's all feigned). You don't have Jomtien in Bangkok, either.
Next trip I want to go to Korat and see if it's all it's cracked up to be. and Sukhothai and Chiang Mai and Pattaya and Chantaburi (don't ask, jewelry shopping), maybe Trat and Cambodia just to say I've been there
Visit Pattaya promotion
The Tourism Authority of Thailand's office in Pattaya, the city administration and hotel and tour operators there have joined hands by offering very attractive packages to visitors travelling to the seaside resort during May 1-July 31.
Visitors to Pattaya and Chon Buri can stay in hotels that suit their budget. Room rates begin at 499 baht and go up to 699, 999, 1,499, 1,899, 2,499 and 3,099 baht per night, depending on where they are staying, including breakfast for two.
For city tour, visitors are offered discount vouchers to various attractions and restaurants. An added attraction is "Party on the Beach & Sea Food Fair" on May 17 in north Pattaya by the beach. Sea food barbecue and musicals will be on hand to entertain visitors.
For details call TAT office in Pattaya: 038-428-750, 427-667 or Call Centre at 1672.
Khun,
A similar (nationwide) package was on offer some weeks ago. The downside was that it was available to Thais only...:(
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Freeler
[i]Khun,
A similar (nationwide) package was on offer some weeks ago. The downside was that it was available to Thais only...:( [/i][/QUOTE]
That may be true as this is holiday time for schools here now.
Even without such a package, my friend told me that all hotel are available now at less than 50% as occupancy rate is at bottom low.
I´m new here but I want to know if something have change since 1 year.
I want to know which bar, A go-go I have to see and which I should I avoid.
And which is now the best BBBJ bar ?
Because I go in 1 week back so good places to go would be cool for me.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by FawnTheGuyver
[i]Iìm new here but I want to know if something have change since 1 year.
I want to know which bar, A go-go I have to see and which I should I avoid.
And which is now the best BBBJ bar ?
Because I go in 1 week back so good places to go would be cool for me. [/i][/QUOTE]
Many things have changed in the last year. For one thing one of the best GO GO bars on Walking Street just open this January Electric Blues. Other Walking Street Bars that are tops are Living Dolls and the New Pollo Bar. Happy and Super Baby still have very hot girls at them. On Soi 8 two new GO Go bars have open as well as a new one on Soi 2. Pattayaland is still rocking and the action is still hot all over the city. The deals are much better because tourism is way down, Sars, war, etc., I can't really name a GO GO that I would not go to because all offer something interesting if you look. As for BBBJ bars you can’t go wrong with the Pump Station on Soi Post Office (13/2) at 370 baht.
Tight lines,
Sexreview
HI
Have seen web page for Penthouse Hotel with mirrored rooms etc. rooms an service look nice. Anyone ever stayed there? Also the 2 girl airport limo pickup in BKK. Anyone tried that? Web always seems to make it better than reality.
K thanks I will try it out then. and 370baht are for BBBJ right?
[QUOTE]Originally posted by look.
As for BBBJ bars you can’t go wrong with the Pump Station on Soi Post Office (13/2) at 370 baht.
Tight lines,
Sexreview [/i][/QUOTE]
monger :
Scroll back, about 2 weeks ago someone else asked about the Penthouse. Ssome others and I replied.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by FawnTheGuyver
[i]K thanks I will try it out then. and 370baht are for BBBJ right? [/i][/QUOTE]
Yes, the fee is 370 Baht upstairs in the semi private bar. Or if you want a private room the fee is 400 baht. All the girls seem to do BBBJ in this place, but before going upstairs confirm that it is bare back with the girl. That way she will have a hard time hitting you up for an extra tip.
Monger22,
Yes the hotel is nice and many guys love the place. The higher level rooms are the ones that you want here. I have stayed at the hotel and also shot a photo layout in one of the suites. A friend used the airport pick up service and liked it, but it really sticks you with two girls you may or may not want once at the hotel. I don't stay at the hotel much any more because I don't want to stay in in Pattayaland, the noise level is very high.
Sexreview
Thanks traveler...i found it frim April.
Hello fellow Pattaya lovers.
I recently spent 2 1/2 months there, from January through mid-March this year and I can't wait to go back. I enjoyed the Go Go bars, but found the lions share of my pussy along Beach Road with free lancers. Never once had to pay a bar fine that way and had absolutely high quality ladies, two, or three different ones a day. I liked some well enough to go LT instead of ST, but soon discovered that it led to GFEs which slows down your punting severely. Also GFEs become expensive in other ways because they treat you like a walking ATM machine.
I paid 500 B. ST and 1,000 LT.Not once was I ripped off by any of the really great street walkers I took back to my room. My only loss was about 6 Viagra tablets that I think the Hotel cleaning person lifted from my shaving kit. I intend to stay indefinitely this time, using Pattaya as a base for travel to Laos, Vietnam and Cambodia. Look for my future posts because I am a firm b eliever in sharing useful information with fellow punters.
In the meantime, if any punters now in Pattaya would be so kind, please post a report on what is going on there now. After I get back I will be glad to return the favor. I left just before the Iraq war and SARS occured. In particular, what have these two events done to the punting scene there? Does anyone have a handle on how much the Street Walkers are charging for ST and LT? What effect if any has it had on bar girls and bar fines? What about hotels? I paid 850 B. a night at the Eastiny Inn on Soi 8, what are they, or similar hotels charging now? Has the economic turmoil lessened the amount of women in general, or does it seem the female population has stayed the same, or increased?
Any new things to watch out for? Any variations to the sex scene vis a vis the police etc. ? I guess I'm just suffering from withdrawal. What a bust it is to be back in America in the midst of over weight, aggressive and tight assed American women who insist on a six month relationship before they give up the booty.
I'm homesick for Thailand.
Thanks,
Asia Knight
In this week's pattaya Mail:
"Monday Ladies Night,
Buy One Get One Free"
How about that!?
Too bad it doesn't say where...
Asia Knight,
BeachRoad rulez:).
Police are still after drugs and, this one is new, gunmen.
No special orders to close down gogo's or beerbars. Unless it's a hang-out for druggies and gunmen:(.
I went to the Pump Station last night and got hit up for 200 baht more for bareback in the room. I haven't run into that kind of problem in my 4 days in Thailand yet, and was a bit surprised.
About 15 girls there, perhaps I just chose the wrong one.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jaimito Cartero
[i]I went to the Pump Station last night and got hit up for 200 baht more for bareback in the room. I haven't run into that kind of problem in my 4 days in Thailand yet, and was a bit surprised.
About 15 girls there, perhaps I just chose the wrong one. [/i][/QUOTE]
JC,
It really pays to read this forum, if you look down about seven posts you will see the post I did about the pump station. In that post I said to asked the girl before going upstairs if the service would be bare back. But even paying 200 baht plus the room fee of 400 baht the service is still reasonable. You can't blame the girl for wanting to make a little extra baht.
Sexreview
how da hell are these military guys affording the hard rock??? i'm kinda mad that my tax dollars are being used for this.
tapioca
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Samus Aran
[i]Fellas:
SA just came back from a 3 dayer in Pattaya. Here is the latest.
The US military has a high presence in Pattaya now due to Cobra Gold exercises that run until the 29 of May. Dont worry guys there is plenty of pussy available. Most of these guys drink too much to hump anyways. SA stayed at the Hard Rock which was housing a couple hundred of them. It surprised me how out of shape these military guys are. Big guts and truly foul mouths. Anyways as far athe action goes, I did my regular tour through the soapies. Nothing impressed me much. I hit Sabailand and it seemed that the girls were getting uglier and uglier the longer I looked through the fish tank while I sipped my brew. I moved on to Sabai Dee but that was filled with Arabs so I didnt stay long. Finally went to Sabai Room whic had the best assortment of chics. Chose one. The room was unimpressive. I know I am not here to discuss interior design patterns but it frankly looked drab and the smell of boodissy (BOOty, DIck and puSSY) permeated the air. The mattresses were so damn old that there were permenant indentations in all the right places. The girl was fun but the atmosphere and smell made me run out of there in 30 minutes. Typical SA style. Love it!
The food was above average. Same food stall shit. Stuck with McDonalds and KFC. At least I know what bad taste to expect.
OK enough said.
Samsu Aran [/i][/QUOTE]
Well, the bags are packed and the limo to the airport is on it's way, another adventure to Pattaya is about to begin. From Boston to Pattaya in about 36 hours, with a meeting in Toyko with my partner for this trip. We have run together before in Pattaya and will run again but every trip is like the first, just can't wait to be in Pattaya. Homebase is Soi 8 and the fun will soon begin until it is time to pack the bags and head for home again. All the time planning the next trip to return again. Pattaya is like no other place in the world. Next report will be from Beach Road Pattaya, Thailand.
Sexreview
Gee, Tap, when they spend 6 months aboard ship and then come ashore, IT'S THEIR MONEY (unless you consider PAY to be "taxpayer money")
Review - I like Sureena (soi post office), as near as I can remember, roughly next door to pump station (which I didn''t know was BJ bar). I probably won't be there until Sunday (5/25)
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Samus Aran
[i]Pattaya is so empty of tourists that they must have offered these guys great rates. In addition, I think they are sleeping 4 to a room, barracks style.
Samus Aran [/i][/QUOTE]
Yeeees.... even Hard Rock have a very good discounts now a days may be unbelievable discount but do you think they will allow to open doormetry in thier Hotel. No way.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Samus Aran
[i]Pattaya is perfect for these guys.
Samus Aran [/i][/QUOTE]
definitely Pattaya is perfect place for these guys. remember Pattaya is in todays shape due to these guys. People says before Vietnam war Pattaya was a small village.
If you don't like sexreview's review then why you waste your time here SA even after so many time abuses.
learn to enjoy joy of others.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Samus Aran
Sex Review:
Pattaya needs more guys like you. Willing to fly 2 days on an airplane for some uninspiring sex with a young Thai girl. You must be the luckiest guy in the world! Thanks for telling us your itinierary and plans. I'll sleep better tonite. We are all waiting eagerly for you reports on how you shtooped some Thai broad from Isaan. Do us all a favor and why dont you just recycle your previous reports from several months ago. Nothing is going to change. Blowjob here, fuck there, hand hob here.
Samus Aran [/i][/QUOTE]
SA,
I have no problem flying for 28 hours, first and or world business class that is, and yes heading right for Pattaya. You will never like or find anything that you like about the place that is clear from your posts about Pattaya. And about things not changing you are wrong again things always change in Pattaya, but the changes are for the better. I think that is enought said to you on the subject.
Sexreview
Now for the readers who are interested in the truth.
Pattaya has change for the better over the last several weeks, for one thing hotel prices are way down. It is common to buy 5 nights and get two free. Have not been here long about 14 hours but the number of travelers here is almost zero... it is a buyers market and the girls are ready to deal. Also because of the lack of travelers no waiting for other services in the city. Overall it is a great time to be in Pattaya.
Sexreview
SR - Pattaya - Reading this forum
Well, I'd say you're right about reading the forum. However, with SO MUCH information on Thailand, it's a bit hard to remember it all.
I don't mind paying, but whenever I think I'm getting the "gringo" treatment too badly, I don't enjoy it. And while 570 baht is cheap, you can generally get a nice freelancer for a couple of hours for that same price.
What kind of prices are you getting on business class tickets? I never had anyone sitting next to me, except for US portions of my flight, but I would fly FC or BC if they were't crazily priced.
JC,
Please don't misunderstand what I was saying to you, about reading the fourm. It was not a put down in any way, everyone, form the first timer to the guy who has 20 years can learn something by reading the information here.
About business class if I pay for it from the east coast the normal cost would be $5000 to $6000 dollars ( I have never paid that much) or you can find deals for between $1500 and $3000. But most times I would not even do that, because I always fly with the same airline group I have a Elite standings with them and I use miles to upgrade my class for overseas flights. For the in US legs I get auto upgrades for free based on being Elite. I used Continental as my lead airline but all miles from Eva and Northwest also count. And Northwest honors my Continenial Elite and gives the auto upgrades. The key is to fly the same airlines all the time and the miles build up really fast. I have made four trips in the last seven months to Thailand using this system.
Hope the rest of your trip is going well and remember the Thais always want to bargin with you, so the first price is not the best price.
Sexreview
Greetings from pattaya. I tend to forget how much 22 hours takes out of one. Review - if you want to get together for a beer, let me know since I'll be here for a few days
for those wondering, even with cobra gold, this place seems pretty unpopulated particularly for a saturday PM. Cheap charlie that I am, I found a beer bar girl (they stay open 24/7 I guess) going "off shift" so no bar fine - I just gave it to her as a tip.
dinghy, is right you do see the Cobra Gold guys around but still things are slow in Pattaya, more than enough girls for everyone. Dinghy if you want to get together leave a email address or contact point.
Some others on this board have stated that the food is poor in Pattaya, I have never found that to be the case. But for those guys I offer this information. Went to the Montien Hotel for dinner the last two nights, friday a seafood theme and saturday was international, 560baht and 480 baht was the total cost, the food was better than anything you would find at the Marroitt or Landmark Buffets in Bangkok and about half the cost. The service level was five star and over 150 plus items each night. Anyone who claims the food sucks in Pattaya must be deaf, dumb and blind because that is far from the case.
On a sad note Electric Blue A Go Go was great last month, first they went to hooters t-shirts cut off so all the servers on the second level showed their chest, and then the end of last month they took the tops off and had topless servers. That was really a great thing, but now back to the old standard uniforms. They also had a cafe next store to the club, that has closed and they opened a new Go Go club. The club is called Hooty's and the theme seems to be close to the hooters thing they tried to do next store. But the t-shirts don't show anything. It is a smaller club with a center stage about 12 girls working it at a time. The also have a small area glassed off for a Hoot's Classroom, two to three girls sit inside it in school girl uniforms and read and study. The hook here is no underwear and they sit open legged to give you a free look, for a small tip they will do a little show, playing with their Pu....ys. Between 8:30 and 9:30 they have 25 baht happy hour the cheapest Go Go bar drinks in town. Electric blues is 25 baht from 7:30 to 8:30.
The club has been open less then three weeks, I hope once they have some time un der the clubs belt that things will loosen up a little. Topless would be great again.
Well, it is 1:30 am and I want to grab a second short time for the night, so from Pattaya this is sexreview ending my report.
Sexreview
I am planning a return visit in July and would like to take advantage of the cheap prices of hotels on offer. If there are hotels that are offering good prices say between 500 to 700 baht I would like to know about it.
I have no problem flying for 28 hours, first and or world business class that is, and yes heading right for Pattaya. You will never like or find anything that you like about the place that is clear from your posts about Pattaya. And about things not changing you are wrong again things always change in Pattaya, but the changes are for the better. I think that is enought said to you on the subject.
Sexreview
Now for the readers who are interested in the truth.
Pattaya has change for the better over the last several weeks, for one thing hotel prices are way down. It is common to buy 5 nights and get two free. Have not been here long about 14 hours but the number of travelers here is almost zero... it is a buyers market and the girls are ready to deal. Also because of the lack of travelers no waiting for other services in the city. Overall it is a great time to be in Pattaya.
Sexreview
review - about the food, perhaps they are comparing "farang" food made by farang for farang - but from my observations, even that's pretty good. One thing I will say about Marines (aside from being mission oriented) they sure seem to be a HORNY bunch (but this is Pattaya, so what WOULD one expect? )
Hooty's is pretty nice even if a a bit L O U D (hey, I LIKE my hearing) and the players in the glass booth REALLY tried to get my attention last PM (just kept sucking on that Heinekin) I would probably insult them with a flow of 20B bills (I WOULD pay on an ongoing basis, just not "up front" - more like "progression payments) Any idea of how much they want as a tip since I didn't wnat to go in blind. BTW - for those of you going to Pattaya, take a supply of miniature liquors - they (dancers) like them as much as tips or so it seems. Momasan at Nui got amd at me last night for gettnig the dancers drunl again, had a bottle of French brandy (not Cognac) which they polished off with gusto - problem was they didn't give me much chance to get more than a couple of drinks myself.
OK a question - what's north of say soi 5? Never been that far north yet
anything worth checking out? Anybody know how to get to Korat from Pattaya? Cambodia sounds like an advanture in changin busses and modes of transportation
review - since blue and hootys seem to have happy hour following weach other, I'll start at whichever one starts at 730 and leave from the other at 930 big guy, usually sit at the dance floor for better view (blue/white checked shirt probably red shorts) <grin>
Hey everyone I'll be in Pattaya from June 10 staying at the Penthouse hotel. If anyone is around during that time drop me a line at bbig12@hotmail.com.
Thanks
[QUOTE]Originally posted by dinghy
OK a question - what's north of say soi 5? Never been that far north yet
anything worth checking out? Anybody know how to get to Korat from Pattaya? Cambodia sounds like an advanture in changin busses and modes of transportation
review - since blue and hootys seem to have happy hour following weach other, I'll start at whichever one starts at 730 and leave from the other at 930 big guy, usually sit at the dance floor for better view (blue/white checked shirt probably red shorts) <grin> [/i][/QUOTE]
Dinghy,
You are missing a lot if you don't go north of Soi 5. Most of the Soapy Massage places in town are next to or across the street from the Big C Mall. This is the Soi 2 and Soi 3 area, many great beer bars and a couple of Go Go Bars too. It is worth a trip down to the area. Also the Big C mall has a few good places to eat, and many great shops.
Also it should be noted that on Soi 4 is Pattaya International Hospital, which is a great place that was set up to cater to the expat market. Really good skill levels and low prices if you every need anything done. I have dental done at the hospital and the service is grade A and cheap.
Sunday nights I hit Missy's A GO GO at 7:00pm and then I will head over to Blue and Hooty's and look for you. Right now with it being so hot here a nice swim I think is in order.
Sexreview
Dinghy,
'OK a question - what's north of say soi 5?'
More bars, the BigC, some hotels and, for those who like their hearing, the quiet SoiRegentMarina. SRM is the first soi from the North, then it's Soi1, Soi2 etc.
Soi3 has One Mansion, with appartments that used to cost B10,000 a month, could well be cheaper now.
For dental problems, or a cheap treatment:), go to APC dental clinic on Soi5.
SexReview,
'Also it should be noted that on Soi 4 is Pattaya International Hospital'
From what I heard certain (Many? All?) Europeans Travel Insurers don't pay the bills from this hospital... A bunch of American and Brittish expats in Pattaya that I know well, don't go there. They stick to the hospital near Second and Central instead.
SR
Yes, I am an Elite with NWA, so I know what you mean on part of it. Unfortunately, my US leg was flown on Alaska, and I get miles but no automatic upgrade. I did pay $50 to get bumped up going to Seattle, but flew like a sardine coming back.
Perhaps if I fly to BKK another time this year, then I'll be Gold, and will get enough bonus miles to upgrade to business class. I think it costs 50,000 miles round trip, right?
I personally didn't mind the seats, since I never had someone sitting right next to me on any of the international legs. If I had to fly Narita like a sardine, I think I'd be really tired at the end of it.
A quick question for you, since you fly a lot. I like Northwest, but the flight attendants don't seem to be very friendly. Continental ones seem much friendlier.
One thing I like about going to Costa Rica, is that I have always got upgraded to first class. Domestic on Continental or NWA, I'm upgraded about 75%.
I was not disappointed with any of the food I got in all of Thailand. I didn't eat any meat (or crickets/scorpions) from street vendors, but did get some fruit and stuff from the beach sellers.
I stayed at the Dynasty Resort, up on the hill. I had room service a couple of times, and was very pleased. I hardly ever order from room service, since it's so absurdly priced in most of the world.
I had 2 entrees, white rice, and a banana split for $7! All good quality, served in 10 minutes or less.
I do like things a little spicy, and made the mistake of asking for something "medium spicy" in Bangkok. That's how I ask for it in the US. Obviously the spicy exchange rate is different in Thailand. :)
I'm surprised I didn't have flames coming out my culo later that night. I'll post some more about food in my continuing saga in the Bangkok forum.
JC - yes, you have fallen into the chile pit - what the Thai think of as 1 star would blow the doors off most folks. I actually ASK for "Thai spicy" (in Thai of course) and am not disappointed (just don't hiccup with a mouthful of spicy Thai food and get it up your nose...(oooh, that burns)
meat crickets and grasshoppers are actually pretty good (but I cant get into eating scorpions or cockroaches either) The meat is barbequed so it really isn't a problem
Koala89,
I just made reservations at Roof Garden Inn for August @ 650 baht. It's a smaller (read QUIETER) place up on Tappraya Rd built in 2001 (new is nice) but close to So. Pattaya and on the baht route with a continental breakfast. www.roofgardeninn.com
WISteve
Freeler :
'Also it should be noted that on Soi 4 is Pattaya International Hospital'
From what I heard certain (Many? All?) Europeans Travel Insurers don't pay the bills from this hospital... A bunch of American and Brittish expats in Pattaya that I know well, don't go there. They stick to the hospital near Second and Central instead.
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I once was treated there for a Rota-Virus infection. Paid with my golden master and got the money back from the included insurance. They only want you to pay with your CC and a report in english.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Marauder
[i]Hey Folks. Has anyone ever stayed at Giligins? I see they have rooms for 350 bhat. I presume they are guest friendly because it is a gogo/hotel combo.
Where is Giligins in regard to the rest of the action? Has anyone ever been with a Giligins girl? How much?
Email me ecu23obx@hotmail.com if you want, or post here. I'll be in Thailand for 5 weeks, I leave tuesday May 27. Not sure when I'll be in Pattaya, but I imagine it will be first week in June. This will be my first trip, any advice for a newbie?
Warm Regards
Chris
PS, I really appreciate this input! [/i][/QUOTE]
Marauder,
Yes it is guest friendly, and the girls will look for 1000 bt short time and 1500 baht all night. If they think you will pay more they will asked for more, right now things are bad here very little business so many will take less. Cobra Gold is over in a few days so when you are here they will be very hungery for business.
The news around town is that a aircaft carrier group is coming to port after Cobra Gold. If that group hits town all bets are off, because they dump 3000 to 4000 Navy guys upon the city. The goood news is they only stay a few days. Last year it was four days, the bad side is the prices go up for that time. I did see a flat top out on the ocean a few days ago but it was very far off shore and I believe just part of Cobra Gold. I myself don't believe the carrier will come to port now with the US on code red. President Bush (And the US Goverment) does not want that big of a target sitting in the bay. The risk are just to high in my opinion.
About hotels; book one or two nights and then hit the streets and make a deal. Everyone is ready to deal and most are giving free nights, but the best deals are in person face to face. I really like the Soi 7 and 8 area as a place to stay. Flipper Hotel is offering 1 night free with 5 and 4 nights free with 10 on Soi 7.
Sexreview
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Marauder
[i]Hey Folks. Has anyone ever stayed at Giligins? I see they have rooms for 350 bhat. I presume they are guest friendly because it is a gogo/hotel combo.
Where is Giligins in regard to the rest of the action? Has anyone ever been with a Giligins girl? How much?
PS, I really appreciate this input! [/i][/QUOTE]
Gilgin as a Hotel to stay ???
I don't think it is used as a hotel to stay long. I have seen thier website & I think it is registered as Hotel as law require now short time hotel as a hotel. Location wise also it is in the heart of action street, so better to stay little away.
Thier are thousands of Hotel in Pattaya & mostly vacant now. Think better choice as recomended in this forum.
Onetime I visited Gilgin (after seeing thier website) and I did not find girls to take for long time. But Pattaya is full of choice. and every person has its own choice. May be you like them.
Come Pattaya & enjoy the discount sale period guys !!!
Khun,
Well they do list all night rates. I've never been in there before, so I can't comment on whether it's a good deal (or smart, even).
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jaimito Cartero
[i]Khun,
Well they do list all night rates. I've never been in there before, so I can't comment on whether it's a good deal (or smart, even). [/i][/QUOTE]
Normally short time hotel also publish full night rate because there is not short time hotel by law.
beach road FLs seem to be getting 200-300. I could have held out for 200 but agreed to 300. One last pm got a sore mouth (couldn't get pressure so went to a HJ then got a sore hand fropm trying to get me off, finally pulled off head gasket and finished me off with a 2 hand special - BJ technique not the best, though. kinda ugly once the pants came off - probably 2 or more kids Csection scars and all. Z is sort of right in that with some of these being in the sperm receptacle category it isn't all that great an experience but is a relief.
I had a friend in college for whom all female were same, 8 to 60, Long or short, fat or slim, beautiful or ugly. The funda was "cover the face & fu.ck the base." was that you SA?
Moreover for him bitches (the real one with four legs) & female donkeys also could work if available. Is that work for you SA?
Further he had made a hole in the wall of the hostel room to release the sperm when no other choice was available and he was bore of the "Your Hands are Your Best Friends"
Some people think releasing sperm is the sex like some people think you eat only for hunger. You can release your sperm with your hand free of cost then why you spend even 200-300 baht.
Its just matter of choice. Pattaya is no exception. You have many choice available for the food & fu.ck. Go get it.
gad guys - I didn't want to get THIS discussion cranked up again!!
interesting thing happened last PM - TG more or less stood me up - picked her up at her bar at 2 (soi6) and walked down to Bhudda where she prayed (paid 20B for "offering") and then went walking toward wakling street. I wanted song-taew, so we rode. Got to where I cut up to Sai 2, stopped got out and she said "Bye-bye". Beats me why - I had shower so I didn't stink <grin> she was willing to go upstairs, why the change? any ideas?
[QUOTE]Originally posted by dinghy
[i]gad guys - I didn't want to get THIS discussion cranked up again!!
interesting thing happened last PM - TG more or less stood me up - picked her up at her bar at 2 (soi6) and walked down to Bhudda where she prayed (paid 20B for "offering") and then went walking toward wakling street. I wanted song-taew, so we rode. Got to where I cut up to Sai 2, stopped got out and she said "Bye-bye". Beats me why - I had shower so I didn't stink <grin> she was willing to go upstairs, why the change? any ideas? [/i][/QUOTE]
Dindly,
Has to be more to the story than you have stated, maybe you don't even know the rest but it must be. The girl heard something from you that she didn't like, or she saw someone that she knew and wanted to go with them. Did she get a phone call before she left you? Or did you say anything about services that you wanted or taking pictures or the price?
Did you pay the bar fine for her or just take her after she got off from work? Are you planning on going back and asking her what happen? I think if you think a little more about it you may learn the answer. And then their is always the simply fact that she is a Thai Bar girl, don't ever think you can understand their actions because you never will be able to figure them out. But with all the other free girls available it is not a problem just more on and have more fun.
Sexreview
Dinghy.... are you sure you are in the same Pattaya I have been in? You are acting like a Thai bargirl is some sort of precious commodity when in fact it is you the rich farang who is the precious commodity. You aren't in the United States anymore. Don't waste one millisecond on a Thai bargirl if she does not do anything and everything exactly as you want it to be done. The moment she did not get out of the ride with you should have been the last you thought of it. And the word "it" was chosen specifically for the previous sentence. Jesus Christ you guys are going to have the Thai bargirls thinking they are hot shit just like the western white "sweethearts" if you keep behaving like this. Next bar. Next step. Next bargirl.
I think Dinghy has curisity to know why she not went alongwith him? What she did not like in him? Asking experienced people he is trying to get answer what these Thai Girl don't like?
The similar question sometime back Traveler was raising "why they alwasy choose Topiaca, not him?".
My experience - different girls has different reasons.
One time the girl was worried because she thought I have a big gun than Thais/Japanese?Chinese. May be I will hit her hard. Being a new bird she was scared of this so wanted to go back after disco when we moved to room.
Sometime girls like older guys who will just pay for being together. Can not play hard in bed.
May be that girl did not wanted to go with you due to some of the reason/engaement but could not deny at the bar.
My advice you don't need to worry for reason. You are in the ocean of pu.ssys. Go get next.
khun :
The similar question sometime back Traveler was raising "why they alwasy choose Topiaca, not him?".
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Don't hurt my pride :-)
I do exactly know why they choosed Tap instead of me. Anyway, it was only on three occasions.
First we picked up at soi 6, Tap was into her immediately and I still had to think about it. So he was the better customer.
Second was our so called virgin, she expected to play the virgin for him which worked out, but after came to me.
Third was at a gogo, she had bad experiences with europeans/americans but only good ones with chinese.
Tap is quite new to the scene, not as mature as I am, but he knows what he wants. Furthermore I speak thai fluently and most girls expect you to be a cheap charlie if you do so. At least i am more handsome, but this is less important than money for them.
Tap, plz help me on that :-)
khun, you are right. Men will never understand women, especially thai women.
I don't want to start a flame war but you guys who think like "Why they (Thai bar girl) always choose (insert any name here), not me?" are just pathetic.
Get this through your thick skulls. You are in Thailand. You are the man. You make all the choices.
Any questions? Good.
I don't care if they choose Traveler, Topiaca or Stud player. Similarly I don't bother when they not choose them. Likeway I don't get frustated when they don't choose ME or behave otherwise.
Even then I am sorry if I hurt some of you or your pride by quoting name & post. I did not meant that. I too don't feel my pride hurt when some of the girl refuse to go with me.
I used the statement just to say there are plenty of reasons of thier behaviour as it is more clear from Traveller's post now.
Let us don't get in to this & enjoy.
me and traveler play the choosing game cause we're just so fucking bored walking around and picking up tgs. and i'm totally way cuter than he is and ever will be.
i looks way hot in ma speedo and ma gut hangin' out!
tapioca
as it turns out what she understood was that I was leaving for Korat the next day and to her that meant "early" (didn't want to get up "early" after getting "picked up" at 2am) - actually "departure" was "later" having fallen into the Thai time trap (there are _4_ "1 o'clocks" in their time, 1 every 6 hours, so my departure was delayed 6 hours) I saw her the next day (yesterday) and asked "why". her An-grit is passable, that (above) was her explanation. didn't matter since there are many FLs out there, just that my feet hurt too much to go back out.
Non-monger story follows - The "adventure" of a Thai bus ride - nothing quite like a breakdown in the middle of Thailand "somewhere" - they broke all the drive belts on the bus and it took 3 hours to get it fixed. Later, climbing some long climb (dunno where) woke up while bus was passing trucks (going uphill) on a 2 lane road. Trust in Bhudda, go back to sleep, karma is OK. And I thought Mexican bus drivers were crazy... then there's the issue of finding a room in Korat at 3am when you speak so little Thai as to be non-conversational. Ask tuk-tuk driver "ow hong, you tee nai?" and he took me to a hotel (which by the way costs MORE than fan room in Pattaya)
samus :
as far as i understood, dinghy wasn't whining, just curious why she went off.
you think, that you understand women ? i have a mom (like most of us), four sisters and a wife, had hundreds of female encounters and i can tell you : a men will never understand a woman. i can also tell you that you couldn't get close to any of the girls i know with that kind of attitude. it works out for thai hos, cause they want your money, but don't try that on a european girl, she will kick your ass.
let's move this to the opinion & advice section.
khun :
i hope you saw the :-) (smiley) behind my post.
i really give a f..k if a chick refuses me or choose someone else. there are so many around and i always can get them later, no prob.
anyway, tap brought it to the point, i just can't keep up with him. he looks so cool in his speedos :-)
tap :
thanks for your help, i really appreciate it.
"What Woman Wants"
Boys!!! we have got a man (?) who claims he has understood completely "what woman want"
Hey SA write down a book & sure you will get a noble for literature if you can proove this what you claim.
In my opinion you don't know anything about this. Just 50 second play after paying 1,500 baht is too far from knowing a woman. It is just like a ride in dreanland & then claim you have enjoyed the whole world.
Me and a couple of friends are trying to find the best hotel deals between 3 different cities: Bangkok, Phuket, Pattaya, any suggestions for decent hotels at reasonable prices?
[QUOTE]Originally posted by bruce_lee
[i]Me and a couple of friends are trying to find the best hotel deals between 3 different cities: Bangkok, Phuket, Pattaya, any suggestions for decent hotels at reasonable prices? [/i][/QUOTE]
Hey Bruce Lee
all the hotels at all three places are fully vacant & waiting for you (& gilrs too). Come & have best deal anywhere.
Khun - sure right about that - the girls here are HUNGRY - they REALLY want the business. Now talk about being misled- I was in a beer bar on Soi Bukauw early this AM and saw a T A L L one that met my fancy , but being cautious, asked the other gorls if "ladyboy" - they said "no" but after the barfine, "it" (I say it because i dunno, but I _DO_ have suspicions it didn't want to be touched or shower ("so what was you first clue, Mr Smith?") so what the hey, only 200B wasted - wnet to beach road for anothr FL for 200B. The question is this - should I pursue either getting the BF back or getting another one for no BF?
Khun,
'all the hotels at all three places are fully vacant & waiting for you (& gilrs too). Come & have best deal anywhere.'
Yep, and I still have to wait THREE whole weeks before touch down in the HolyLand...:(
Dinghy,
I'd give them hell! 200 baht or 2000 baht, they lied to you. I'd at least post what place did this to you.
dinghy
In LOS the notion of thruth is (at the best) flexible... And you cannot expect bargirls to empty the rice bowl of a friend, collegue or almost any other native of the 'great' Thailand to save a farang B200.
And - and this is important - you have no proof she was a LB...... It was your prudence that made you leave.
Do you really want to loose (farang) face for 5 greens?
Good luck, Dinghy, but I'd not hold my breath for either result. A bar fine just says the woman (or otherwise) can leave the bar with you -- no guarantee of anything else. You might be able to get some results, but that will depend on your charm as opposed to rightness of position. Who knows? It might help to note you'll be posting the results of the outcome online, because you've already had guys ask where this happened. But of course this is still all about the difference in price between a tank of regular or premium at home... Regardless, getting out of a katooey situation, if that's what it was, (or heck, getting out of any situation with a TG) for no hassle or shock to the system and only 200baht seems like a pretty good result.
Dinghy,
This is just another case that says learn to speak and read basic Thai. The one thing a lady boy can't change is the Government ID card it will always say MR (In Thai) on it. Most of the time if you asked them they will tell you. Also if you are a hotel that checks ID's if you have made friends (Small baht tip) with the cleck or guard they can give you a heads up. But your lost was small so I would just more on if I was you.
Tight lines
Sexreview
JC - the issue isn't the money (hell, that's 2 beers in an up scale bar) it's that someone either _didn't know_ (which I doubt since the gurlz know who "is" and who "ain't") or LIED about it - the LIE has me more pissed than (unconfirmed) katoey - BTW - no adams apple, but tall with bigger hands and unless "she" was a milkmaid, powerful grip.
Philo - save face? why? LIke I said above, it isn't the money, hell I spent $1000 last week on "stuff" for the head poo ying. Live and learn
Joe - good point, but Samus is right - you pay them to leave (or in "its" case just show "it" the door (lao gon) (no additional cost)
Review - being the cheap charlie that I am, I'm staying in a no-name fan room in the "cheap seats" - all checking is up to me (and yes, i don't read Thai (yet)) But thanks for the thought and advice.
actually went back and asked AGAIN and the one i was speaking to (fractured an-grit) was certain "it" was female (and supposedly off the farm for less than a month (why do they all say that) and "pood an-grit mai" hell, maybe it was that time of the month (but i STILL doubt it) ka-ching! as the register rings up a 200B total loss - should have taken the one who was all over me at the other bar asking "I go with you?!? You tired, go sleep, i sleep with you!" Such enthusiasm (didn't think i could keep up)
Dinghy
Your experience with Ladyboys reminds of the first time I was in Thailand in 1996. I flew down to BKK and was met by a friend who knew it all. We were in BKK for one night and then to Pattaya. The whole trip we were doing a good service to Jhonny Walker and we were in a perpetual state of being happy. Not drunk not sober but just happy.
Anyway, we both had a TG each for the night and went to a beer bar (don't as which one) to see the highlights. A few minutes later two gorgeous looking women came in. We started to call them over when my girl says "Me no like ladyboys". What's that? "Lady is boy. Me no like ladyboys"
My friend who loved JW a bit too much was delighted. Me. knowing more, told him to give "her" a good kiss, which he proceeded to do.
Me, I just squeezed the tits of the other one to see if they were real. Don't ask me if they were, ask JW. My girl wanted to leave as she felt uncomfortable. So we posed for pictures and left.
The next day imagine his reaction when I told him the truth. I think he finished a bottle of Listerine. To this day when i show a picture to my friends in the US with us sitting with the 2 girls and the other 2 "girls", they always pick the ladyboys as the real girls.
On a bad note, when we left the bar i found a lot of xtra bills for bills for beer we never had. I guess the ladyboys were pissed since we just squeezed them and did not pay them anything. However, the French owner threw away the padded portion when I complained loudly.
The moral of the story is, if you want to avoid ladyboys, then first get a TG and then ask her if she wants the 'other' one to accompany you for a 3some. They will invariably turn you on the right path (unless they are kinky, of course)
Aaaaaah. Flight leaves in 14 hrs to BKK.
Hello all:
Just making the final plans for my BKK/Pattaya trip. Was going to book the Eastiny Inn in Pattaya, but upon looking at another website one of the posters there claimed that the management had changed over the past year and they now charge 400 baht for an overnight guest. Does anyone here have any info as to the accuracy of this?? Thanks again to all.
Johnnie Bravo
Johniebravo don't shit me up like that I am booked in the Eastiny on the 23rd of June for 2 weeks if what your saying is true that means a minimum of 14x400bht extra. If you are right I will cancel and loose my deposit and go elsewhere I intend to try the blowjob bar on Soi Post office which I missed out on last time due to being knob struck anyone want to meet up and share info in June post on board.
I hear ya Luke, I don't know what to do......unless I hear any current info from some of the more recent or more veteran campaigners on this board, I think I'll just show up in person and see what kind of a deal I can cut when I am there and what the Eastiny's girl policy actually is.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by JohnnieBravo
[i]Hello all:
Just making the final plans for my BKK/Pattaya trip. Was going to book the Eastiny Inn in Pattaya, but upon looking at another website one of the posters there claimed that the management had changed over the past year and they now charge 400 baht for an overnight guest. Does anyone here have any info as to the accuracy of this?? Thanks again to all.
Johnnie Bravo [/i][/QUOTE]
Johnnie,
Here's what I can tell you that I know to be facts. Number one, management has not changed at the top level in the Eastiny Hotel. I have a friend who live in the Hotel for 18 months going back five years ago. The same guy is the Manager now as was then the Manager. Number 2, I have stayed at the Eastiny Inn (Hotel) three different times this year alone and never paid a joiner fee. I have walked into the hotel at midnight with not two but three girls and another guy and no questions were ever asked. We did a photo/ video shoot that night and even when I called for extra towels no questions or problems.
I have never found the staff to be anything but friendly and helpful. The night watchman is also very cool, I would throw him a few baht if I was you, it will be well worth it.
The desk does asked for the ID's from your guest and they keep a log. This is a service for you, if you don't want them to check ID's or your guest doesn't have one they asked you to sign a wavier. You can also tell them upfront please don't asked for or check ID's from my guest and you will never hear about it again.
The hotel is a great place to stay and they always try to make you the guest happy. I do recommend a few things here, don't use the items in the mini bar, the 24 hour store is right downstairs and the cost is one third of what they will bill your room. Also tip the maid a few extra baht upfront and tell her you want extra towels every day. If you get a room you don't like because some are smaller or in bad location, just asked them to change your room on the next day. And the last thing enjoy your trip and have fun. I know I will when I return to the Eastiny again.
Sexreview
Samus Aran knows what he is talking about ... all will be wise to listen to him.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Studplayer
[i]Samus Aran knows what he is talking about ... all will be wise to listen to him. [/i][/QUOTE]
but sometime he knocks the brain with his spiritual advice. Listen to him when he talks about handling the Pattaya Hos. Don't listen to him when he says Pattaya is a garbage bin. Food here stinks blaaa blaaa blaaa .....
Agreed
I remember that a little while back, the Thai Govt. was having another crackdown of the blowjob bars and the shot-time hotels. Are they back up again the same as before, or has that scene changed or gone?
After years of neglecting North Pattaya I thought I would give it a shot. Does anyone have any suggestions for decent hotels around 600-800 baht near the bars? The last time I was walking around up there, there seemed to be alot of good deals on both the hotels and the girls. Any info would be greatly appreciated!
Just a quick thank you to everyone that recommended the Eastiny Hotel in Pattaya......it has been awesome thus far....thank you, thank you, thank you! You prob. should check it out Boom
Hi Johnny glad your having a good time I arrive on Monday so the Eastiny has come through in the end, any tips good rooms prices etc, if your still there next week we can see who's room makes the most noise. Luke.
Sorry about this guys, but I've been in this internet cafe' and have prob spent almost 300baht! trying to find the post that mentioned about where to shop in Pattaya for large sizes...I know I had read it in a past post but i've not been able to find it. If anyone sees this post or knows this info please direct me. Also, if anyone has had any positive taylor recommendations where i might get a suit or two made, please let me know. Sorry to those who say that this is off topic for the board...please forgive this one transgression.
JohnnieBravo
I am currently staying at the Eastiny Place and found that the staff is friendly. No hassles with bringing guests. The rooms are below what I normally stay in. They rate about a 2 star level. However, I checked out rooms at the Eastiny Inn, Flipper, Sunbeam and they are all comparable. The Eastiny Place is at the end of Soi 8 so if you want to be in the bar area, but want a reasonable level of noise level, it has the best of both worlds. With all said, it is worth the 800 baht per night fee.
On another note, Pattaya is great if you like the beer bar action. I just find it a little overwhelming due to the amount of bars and amount of girls. I hear it is slow right now and it is 70% girls 30% men. I'm having a great time, but I prefer Bangkok. It is of course all of personal taste. I can see how some men would prefer Pattaya.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by JohnnieBravo
[i]Sorry about this guys, but I've been in this internet cafe' and have prob spent almost 300baht! trying to find the post that mentioned about where to shop in Pattaya for large sizes...I know I had read it in a past post but i've not been able to find it. If anyone sees this post or knows this info please direct me. Also, if anyone has had any positive taylor recommendations where i might get a suit or two made, please let me know. Sorry to those who say that this is off topic for the board...please forgive this one transgression.
JohnnieBravo [/i][/QUOTE]
JB,
If you go inside Mikes Department Store just before Soi 12 on the Beach Road side you will find the larger sizes. Just leave your hotel and walk down to Beach Road and take the Baht Bus. When you enter Mikes you will find about 30 small stalls most have the large sizes. If you just walk passed them you will hear "I have your size, I have big sizes". Another place to look is the market at the corner of Beach Road and Soi 13 (AA Hotel on that corner) the vendors here also have big sizes. In fact almost all the vendors in Pattaya done. Remember it is the slow season so wheel and deal for a very low price. Have fun, post any other questions that you may have.
Sexreview
thanks sexreveiw......help is much appreciated...any tailor recommendations for getting a suit made??? there are so many it's hard to know which one is good
[QUOTE]Originally posted by JohnnieBravo
[i]thanks sexreveiw......help is much appreciated...any tailor recommendations for getting a suit made??? there are so many it's hard to know which one is good [/i][/QUOTE]
JB,
Over the last year I have had 20 plus suits made in Pattaya and used six different tailors. What I did is went in and ordered a somewhat basic suit from each of them. Then after the first suits were made I took them back to the hotel and really looked them over. Then I went back and ordered more suites from the best tailors in the group. I would go back to two of the six shops; New Style World which is on Soi Pattayaland 2 (Soi 13/4) located 50feet from Beach Road on your right-hand side. Asked for Mark he is the owner but the whole staff is very good here. The other shop is on Walking Street about 50 yards up from Beach Road on the right side that shop is Prima Fashion at 86 Walking Street. The owner here is also very good. In January I had a dozen silk shirts done here in Armani silk. Both of these shops did very good work.
Whatever shops you use make them do one suit for you so you can see the work then order more if you want. Another thing tell the shop you are leaving well before you really are so the work is done early. Shorten your trip by about four days this will give you the time you need to have more made and if any problems you will not spend your last couple of days at the tailors.
Sexreview
Thanks again Sex Review for the advice, the tailor that I did end up using is having my suit ready tomorrow along with both my shirts so I can look them over......he tells me he is soooo confident that he is getting ready to design the more expensive suite.....lol.....we'll see. Done some great shopping in Pattaya....thanks Sex Review. Unfortunately, my mongering activities have slowed.....wonder if I burned it out in BKK.....lol. In some ways for me Pattaya is not as conducive to mongering as Bkk is. I guess I am having probs. adapting to the heat......thus I find it hard to sit at all the open air bars and talk. I however liked it in an air conditioned environment.......so is there any discos that you can recommend that are air conditioned? The prob. I have with the dance bars is that I don't enjoy women being right on top of me before I can even look around. Any dance bar where the approach is less aggressive? Lastly, I only saw a very brief show on Soi Cowboy in BkK....are their any shows anywhere in Pattaya. Thanks again to everyone.......going out now to see if I can't drum somthing up;-)
[QUOTE]Originally posted by JohnnieBravo
[i]Thanks again... for the advice, .....I am having probs. adapting to the heat......thus I find it hard to sit at all the open air bars and talk. I however liked it in an air conditioned environment.......so is there any discos that you can recommend that are air conditioned? The prob. I have with the dance bars is that I don't enjoy women being right on top of me before I can even look around. Any dance bar where the approach is less aggressive? Lastly, I only saw a very brief show on Soi Cowboy in BkK....are their any shows anywhere in Pattaya. Thanks again to everyone.......going out now to see if I can't drum somthing up;-) [/i][/QUOTE]
JB,
If you do the beer bars do them at night it is a lot cooler in temp then. About Go Go bars were you are not attacked, try Doll House, Living Dolls, and Super Baby. About a good show the show at Living Dolls Showcase is very good starts around 10:00. For a sex Patpong type show try Marilyn a Go Go on Beach Road near Walking Street. And if you want a real Disco go to Marine Disco on Walking Street, stay away from Tony’s, very overpriced.
Sexreview.
Talking about large sizes - "Made in Thailand" shopping mall (about soi 9 second road) has REALLY large tent sizes - saw t-shirts in there 6x. you can also find some larger sizes (3x, 4x) at the various markets around (Naklua sunday, Soi Bukauw Tue and Fri, but be warhned - but be warned - those markets are either in tin sheds or under tents and inside they are first cousin to being in a sweat box - because YOU WILL!) also good cheap food at the markets
as to tailors - I seem to be adept at finding those either incredibly good (superb quality, done right the FIRST time) or as inept at making a suit (finally done RIGHT after 3 tries) as I would be.
Thanks Dinghy and Sex Review again, it's about 10pm now Wed night and I am going to go check out some of those Go Go bar suggestions......Checked out both Mikes, the street market near there, and the Big C mall. The Tops grocery store too was great, was able to stock up on a few snacks and bottled water there at a better price. Had a more active night last night as I barfined "May" from I belive it was the Tiger Tattoo bar on Soi 7. I asked in advance about how much and she said, up to you. She gave a really great relaxing massage and gave me a nice shower whereby we proceeded to do some nice "boom boom". I had originally contracted her for a short time.......after we were through, she asked me if I wanted her to stay......told her she was welcomed to sleep for a while if she liked and she said she rather stay and sleep rather then leave right away. Woke up a few hours later.......I held her most of the night which was very night. Anyway when we woke up, she felt very good there lying next to me...and to make a long story short....I guess the ST turned into a LT....lol. She left a few hours later...I gave her 1000baht plus 200baht tip along with whatever small amount of baht coins I had left plus even a few U.S. quarters I had lying around. She was maybe a 7 in looks tall and slender with a pleasent disposition. Her performance was certainly acceptable but not anything outstanding. Hope to find a girl while I am here that is personable, but can still really rock......have yet to find that combo but I'm going to keep looking. Well that's all for now going to go forth and butterfly.
JohnnieBravo
Johnnie Bravo can you plz back channel me u12armresl@excite.com to discuss the larger size purchases?
Thank you.
JB,
About beer bar girls from Soi 7 & 8, no matter what they may say any one of them will take 500 baht for short time and 1000 baht for all night. Many will ask for more but if they will take the bar fine in the first place they will take these amounts as a tip. I say if they will take the bar fine because sometimes they will not for many reasons. The time of month, already bar fined, boyfriend, or they don't bar fine are just a few reasons that sometimes they will not.
Also if you want to give a little extra for taxi or to send them to eat that is fine but don't go over a max of 200 baht. The girls all live close to the bars and take motor bike taxis home. The taxi fare is less than 50 baht to anywhere they would go. And if they are eating without you it will be at a Thai place and the food is very cheap under 100 baht. Enjoy the rest of your time in Pattaya.
Sexreview
[QUOTE]Originally posted by dinghy
[i]Talking about large sizes - "Made in Thailand" shopping mall (about soi 9 second road) has REALLY large tent sizes - saw t-shirts in there 6x. [/i][/QUOTE]
Sorry guys,
"LARGE SIZE"
I thought he was asking about condoms. So I did not respond as I never bought that one.
For Tailors - I think "TAJMAHAL" behind Royal Garden on the second road has the best quality material. Little expensive. Have anyone tried ever for fitting?
SA
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Sorry to disappoint you but just because you have had years of frustration with women doesnt mean the rest of us guys havent figured it out. The best way to handle them is to have a life of your own that doesnt put the girl first....
originally posted on 06-03-03
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Did I look frustated when you, Tap and me met in BKK ?
No frustration at all !
But I put the girls first, they are my main target, I want to pop them whenever I can, as long as I can, as much as I can.
Traveler
I just read the NY TIMES newspaper today and they had a story on Pattaya as being a ghostown.Guys, is it really THAT BAD over there?
[QUOTE]Originally posted by MeatMan
[i]I just read the NY TIMES newspaper today and they had a story on Pattaya as being a ghostown.Guys, is it really THAT BAD over there? [/i][/QUOTE]
Here's the article via the international herald tribune:
[url]http://www.iht.com/articles/100325.htm[/url]
To me it looks like bargain night in Pattaya!
I even found a RT flight, AUS - BKK for less than $800.
tempting.
The Reports
I am staying nearby Pattaya (20 kM away) & do visit Pattaya on weekly basis for shopping (ofcourse in shopping malls) & entertainment on beaches etc.
I went to the report mentioned below & to me it is a havoc created by report & infact away from the facts.
Yes there is a slow down in the tourist business. But believe me there are no such fears of terror attack or SARS.
The fear of terror attack in general in all over the world has affected drastically the tourism, there is nothing special in Thailand. I think Thailand is much safer than many other countries. We don't have any incident till now (touch wood).
Simlarly there is no SARS in Thailand.
Don't fear, come & enjoy.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by khun
[i]The Reports
Yes there is a slow down in the tourist business. But believe me there are no such fears of terror attack or SARS.
The fear of terror attack in general in all over the world has affected drastically the tourism, there is nothing special in Thailand. I think Thailand is much safer than many other countries. We don't have any incident till now (touch wood).
Don't fear, come & enjoy. [/i][/QUOTE]
khun,
I agree with you, and SARS is a non issue in Thailand but as long as travelers think it is a problem tourism will be down and stay down. SARS has had a major effect on tourism in Thailand even the Thai Government has stated so.
Terrorism is a real threat in Thailand and many other places as well now. The location of Thailand makes it a target as well as the targets that it offers. The United States has now and has had many agents in Thailand because it is a problem area. To say that there have been no problems is to hide your head in the sand. Most of the world has not had problems but those countries still can be a target. The governments of Australia, Germany, Great Britain, and the United States all issued warnings. You had a terrorist cell broken up just last week in Thailand. You had a deal for 30 Kilos of materials to make a dirty bomb broken up this week in Thailand. The borders of Thailand are easy to cross and you have known terrorist cells in the countries close to Thailand. Everyone going to Thailand should think about these things when making plans.
For me I have traveled to Thailand more because of what is going on in the country. The travel deals have just been too good to pass up. I know the risk and understand the risk and accept the risks they go along with travel to Thailand or any other country in these times.
Instead of saying “Don't fear, come & enjoy” maybe it should be Understand the threats and fears, but then you can still come and enjoy but think smart and be wise.
Sexreview
[QUOTE]Originally posted by SexReview
[i] Terrorism is a real threat in Thailand and many other places as well now. Sexreview [/i][/QUOTE]
Even after breaking a few cell I don't agree that Thailand has a real severe threat of terrorism. Yes it has a threat but upto what extent and how severe. There are many other countries which have more serious threats.
After September 11, the whole world is talking terrorism. Why? because it happened in USA under the nose of FBI, CIA. They could not break this terror cell.
Before that also many countries had been facing terrorism for decades. Many time terror cell are broken. People had been killed or saved.
Regarding travel warning, yesterday they broke one cell in USA who wanted to demolish some bridge in USA. Should the whiole world issue warning "not to travel to USA."
The asian philosophy of life and death is - "if your time has come, the roof of your house will fell down & you will get killed"
Everybody is going to die one day, why you get killed everyday by tension. Be brave - Enjoy the day you have in hand.
I'm not usually one to judge..... but I feel this is something that NEEDS to be discussed.
http://www.easythumbs.com/yuki/a45/a45a.htm
http://www.exploitedteensasia.com/
If you look at these pictures this guy is doing BBFS and BBAS with countless girls in Thailand, Cambodia and Vietnam. Obviously he is either incredibly stupid or has a serious death wish - or both. I wouldn't care one bit if he was only putiting himself at risk... but this kind behavior is PUTTING US ALL AT RISK! By "all" I mean ALL parties involved here --- us the punters, and the girls!
This is the kind of guy that spreads HIV throughout the world. Has anyone seen him? Talked to him? Exactly what the hell is he thinking? It's entirely possible (and very likely) that he himself is HIV positive after so many exploits..... and if so, he is handing out death sentences to numerous, uneducated girls whom in turn very well could pass it on to guys just like you and me!
Again, I'm not one judge in 99.99% of cases..... I'm all for mongoring in 3rd world countries...... but I truly feel that what this guy is doing is JUST WRONG.
What to do? And "Baldguy in the pictures" if you are out there and reading this please give us an explanation.
Hello Everyone,
This will be my last report from Pattaya as I have checked out of my room at the Eastiny and am awaiting the completion of my last suit and then I guess I will take the 800baht meter taxi back to BKK. A little expensive in Thai terms I suppose, but with all of this shit that I had to buy for everyone back home I am no longer traveling all that light. Anyway, last night was a better night in terms of mongering. Met two women along Beach Road, each prob. no better then a 6 in terms of the members of this board however; one thing I have learned is that in terms of performance it is far far better to go with those who seem more genuinely friendly and enthusiastic about going with you as opposed to just going for the hottest looking girls. That philosophy sure paid off last night. Both these girls were friends, one was more chubby then most here would care for I would imagine and the other was very small. Both were very friendly and fun to be with......fucked both well. They both seemed very happy with 500bht each for short time, plus I tipped each of them 100baht. Sex was a little on the brief side, even for short time, but very intense, the way I like it.......it was a nice finish to my Pattaya trip. Tonight i go to BKK late........hopefully in time to hit the Thermae or the Grace. Will switch to the BKK board for next report.
jkttroll
nice try, but plz do not advertise for porn sites, it's against the rules of this forum as far as I know. Did you expect us to subscribe or what ?
Greetings, my post was in NO MEANS an attempt to promote this guy's website. I won't press the issue as we all make our own choices and know the risks...... but again, I am in no way affiliated with the website.
Traveler: Right on. One of those sites has a nasty script in it that chages your browser so you have to go into regedit and fix it. Imagine if someone did that in a small office where there was no firewall or at home and the wife later dropped by.
He was fucking one girl bb bcoz it is a porno site. No more of this shit please Mr Troll.
For Skinless watchers, the pedulum is moving back towards LOS. I think the Thai girl I fucked the other nite broke the trance. And what of Johnny Bravo. After all his talk of cockroaches, he is fucking more than any of us. Is there no justice?
[QUOTE]Originally posted by jkttroll
[i]I'm not usually one to judge..... but I feel this is something that NEEDS to be discussed.
http://www.easythumbs.com/yuki/a45/a45a.htm
http://www.exploitedteensasia.com/
[/i][/QUOTE]
WSG Members be very careful with these sites listed here, if you log onto the sites, or even open they drop data mines into your hard drive. These small files attach to other files in your system and report back to another server. Also, known as spy ware or tracking files. The running of anti virus software will not remove them. The only way to get them out of your system is to run a spy ware program.
Skinless, Traveler and SexReview,
Never heard of firewalls, virusscanners - a good one takes care of scripts too - and cleaning your drives?
Spyware, tho someone put it on your machine without your permission, is easy to block and/or get rid off.
Perhaps a dive into real security-sites is better than a thread here...
PS Ever copied index.dat and changed to index.doc and had a look:D?
skinless,
Hey! I forgot about you and that broad from China...what was her name...oh yeah..you "beloved" Shifen! What ever happened to her? I stopped reading that section because I doubt I'll ever venture over there....just curious.
2nd ?. A bottle of JW or Jack Daniels over there.... cheaper to bring a couple from the duty free over here (canada) or to just pick up some there. I can't remember how much those would cost over there...
Freeler,
Count down is going slow I bet isn't it!! (anticipation)! I'm definately leaning on New Years...should be a blast and airfares should be good this year (Air Canada is hurting big time, along with Cathay Pacific (SARS).
Take care all!
Chikan,
So you're back from the forrest. The Grizzlies wouldn't have you, I suppose...
It's only five more days till take-off, I can wait that long. Hell, I've been waiting for five months!
The damndest things are going on with airfare here in Europe. Untill the start of the highseason, next Saturday, prices are probably the lowest ever overall. But on and after Saturday the highseason prices are higher than ever before...???
In normal years Christmas prices should be available now, but apparently no travelagent wants to buy seats this early - no-one gives a quote. OTOH, many flights over Christmastime are already booked solid... I booked a seat myself, not knowing a price yet.
How do you know if your computer has been infected after visiting the two web sites suggested by jkttroll?
vchip - without sounding like either an attack or preaching - IF you are so lax as to surf without anti-virus or a firewall, you get what you deserve (I found no evidence of anything coming from either one, though; norton AV, and behind ZoneAlarm)
[QUOTE]Originally posted by dinghy
[i]vchip - without sounding like either an attack or preaching - IF you are so lax as to surf without anti-virus or a firewall, you get what you deserve (I found no evidence of anything coming from either one, though; norton AV, and behind ZoneAlarm) [/i][/QUOTE]
Dinghy,
To use your own words "..you are so lax as to surf without..." Norton or any other anti virus software will not pick up data mines that are placed by Spy ware. With a firewall the information can't get out as easy as without. But sometimes you take down the fire wall, or some spy wares attach them self too out going emails and then send the information out of your system.
vchip,
To answer your question you need to have a Spy ware program that you use to scan your system. If you get a lot of pop ups that can be coming from companies like Gator, who sell your net surfing habits to advertisers. Many are available as free software. The product I like that is free is called Ad-aware 6.0. For information about the product check out their site http://www.lavasoft.de/. The way I look at it I don’t want anyone recording my actions within the World Wide Web.
Sexreview
...
Gator is one of those programs you only get after confirming you want it... (comes with GetRight)
Nothing attaches to mail, unless you use addressbooks in Outlook or the like.
Is anybody really still that stupid?
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Freeler
[i]...
Gator is one of those programs you only get after confirming you want it... (comes with GetRight)
Nothing attaches to mail, unless you use addressbooks in Outlook or the like.
Is anybody really still that stupid? [/i][/QUOTE]
Bottom line these programs are still a problem, most people use these address books, and why do you want to fight about this stuff? How about ending this and get back to real on point informational post. Not who knows more about computers and the internet.
Saturday night visited Pattaya on my normal routine, it does not look crowded but not like a city of ghost also. The parking in front of Hollywood was packed. Can see some farangs on the road & beach road. Girls on the bikes also does not looked free. All rushing somewhere. Normally this is off season.
Checked both the porn site on Friday. Till date no problem with computer except fot a mail for viagra advertisement. Hope will not get many mails. Very scared of junk mails on Hotmail account.
Thats it.
SexReview,
I was the one who said that a dive into a real security-site would be better than a thread here.
Giving all these examples only makes matters worse, btw dialers are a much bigger problem:D!.
All you have to do to compute in a safe way is:
NO addressbooks/ outlook etc, must have firewall, virusscanner. Ad-ware and pop-up killers if you think you need them.
All those unwanted programs are not a problem at all if you block them.
It's like putting a sticker on your mailbox: No unsollicited mail.
It's simple.
Khun,
My Yahoo accounts are spamfree. They have an automatic spam guard that works so well that even airline mail gets dumped in the spambin! With Yahoo you don't block spam, which doesn't work, but unblock real mail.
I love it!
I do maintain a yahoo account & till date in last 3 years no spam or junk mail. Quite happy.
I maintain another account with Hotmail which I use to submit anywhere for registartion like porn sites or travel sites or anywhere else.
I use Nortan antivirus only, no other fire wall or pop killer etc. Mostly no problems. Hope spammers are not watching this message.
Any recommendation for Bangkok Massage Parlour near Sathon Road which open by 1400 Hrs. I have a meeting at Sathon Road at 1400 Hrs. Want to take a dip after meeting before klap baan.
enjjjjjjjjooooooooyyyyyyy
To bring things back to topic...
I'm thinking about a trip to Pattaya in July, and was trying to estimate costs, given the current downturn in the tourism trade. Can anybody help me out?
I've got a quote for $579 airfare from LAX to BKK on China Air.
$500 Bt/night for the Apex hotel. Is this a decent, girl-friendly place and price? I've read about 'fan rooms.' are they cheaper? Should I try to bargain for a better rate since everything is supposedly so slow?
How much should I expect to pay for free-lancers, st and lt? Where are the best freelancer bars? I want to avoid barfines, but, what's the average rate for that now?
Oh, and what about prices for Bus from BKK to Pattaya?
PNG -- fan rooms are definitely cheaper, in general, though the Apex doesn't have them. I'm not positive you'd want to save the couple of hundred baht for fan-cooled in July, though, especially if you're not really used to that level of climate. (Really -- five bucks for air isn't all that bad, is it?) The Apex is girl-friendly, but they'll usually take the TG's ID. I've never stayed there but have been by it and I've talked to people who have stayed there and who say it's a good enough value for the price. Some complaints about noise from beer bars if you're in the newer section of the hotel, but minor ones.
It never hurts to bargain in LOS -- you can end up with very nice deals that way, or at worst you'll end up with whatever you were quoted. Mostly depends on your comfort level with that and how willing you are to go from one place to another with your luggage in tow to save a couple of bucks.
If you're going from Bangkok City to Pattaya the bus is 90baht from the Ekamai (eastern) terminal, which is the one closest to Sukhumvit. Make sure you're on the "fast" bus, as the other takes almost twice as long.
Bar fines are usually around 200baht for beer bars, 500+ for go-gos. I'll let others comment on prices and best places, since it's now been six months since I was there.
PNG - Joe is right - but what you need to remember is that the bus is BLUE and WHITE (IF it has a RED stripe, you will take _4_ hours getting there - voice of experience) Go into the terminal and get your ticket there - bus hawkers yelling "PATTYA!" are for the SLOW bus. You get a reserved seat INSIDE (you will also pay 70B for the slow bus but 50cents isn't worth NEAR the aggravation)
Review - actually what I meant was that surfing without being behind a firewall was inherently dangerous. ZA alerts me to all attempts to communicate outside my machine and IF I don't allow it, the communication STOPS (immediately - it won't proceed without authorization). Ad-aware is more or less efficient but not optimum.
Fan rooms will be like hell in July - Aug becuase Humidity level is very high.
If you want to tarvel from Air Port to Pattaya directly then go to Morchit bus stop from air port. Its very near by as compared to Ekamai. You have regular service from there also to Pattaya.
There are many hotels like Apex on the same road with same pricing. You don't need to book in advance.
Follow up questions:
How much can I expect to pay per day for average food (I like thai food)?
How do I get from the airport to the terminal? Morchit or Ekamai, any other input there?
Any ideas on avoiding an expensive hotel room in BKK the night of arrival (plane comes in late) and the night before departure?
PNG - depends on your arrival time. If you arrive late PM (like NW or UA) you either spend the night (somewhere - plan on maybe 300B to Sukhumvit area plus say 900B for a room at, say, Royal Asia) or find a partner to take a cab to Pattaya (I did it for 1/2 of 1300 or 650B which turn out to be cheaper in the end) If you arrive during "daylight hours" - either take the bus (200B to Pattaya) or take a cab to Morchit bus station and take the Pattaya bus directly from there; alternately, go to the Morchit Sky train station and take the sky train to Ekkamai and take the bus from there.
As to food - depends on how adventurous you are and how much you like Thai food - I ate from noodle stands myself (but I eat Thai the way the Thai eat - PET PET - it means "very spicy") IF you eat local food, plan on maybe $5/day (nothing fancy, just ordinary Thai food) IF you INSIST on "western food", maybe double that - there is a good breakfast buffet at Apex on 2nd Road at Soi 12 or so for 85B - about $2. Depending on how large you are, you will probably not want to eat all that much anyway because of the heat. AC rooms are cheaper at one of the various Sawasdee hotels (you can get a "weekly" rate if you plan on being there for maybe 2200B or so depending on location - the one up Soi 10 on the dirt road is less, because of the dirt road. Not fancy, but adequate.) Fan rooms are adequate as well IF you get enough ventilation, but you MIGHT get stuck with the "Thai toilet" (bombsight special) and most fan rooms don't have hot water (as if you need it anyway)
Avoiding the room on the outbound is relatively easy - cab from Pattaya to BKK costs 900B (800 fare plus about 100 tollway charges IF you only get on the tollway when you get to the outskirts of Bangkok), but assuming you are on the NW flight that leaves at 0600, you will leave Pattaya at 0200 to arrive BKK at 0400 or so and after check in have maybe 1 hour to waste in BKK airport. Alterantely, 90B P'tya to Ekkamai, room for maybe 900B plus 300B to the airport at 0315 or so (cheaper in the end to stay in P'ya and cab it early AM)
Chok dee!
Thanks for all this info. I'm trying to fit about 17 days into a 2K budget, so every dollar y'all are helping me save counts towards more playtime :) Right now, my spreadsheet is showing me at 2.5 girls a day (assuming about 2/3 ST @ 500BT and 1/3 LT @ 1000BT). Does this sound reasonable?
Dinghy, I really like the idea of cabbing it straight from the airport. Can I just go to the taxi booth right at the airport exit and pay for a ride all the way? Or do I take a taxi outside the airport and bargain for the price?
Also, what's a sawasdee hotel? I don't mind a dirt road, as long as I can walk to the action. Right now, I'm planning on 500BT per night. If I could cut that to 2200BT/week and still get AC, it's definitely worth it.
As for eating, I definitely like the PET PET style. I was in BKK in Jan, and absolutely loved the som tom that would make my eyes water. I didn't try the noodle stands, but was thinking I'd be more adventurous this time around. $5/day sounds like a great way to go!
You can find info on the various Sawasdee properties at [url]http://www.sawasdee-hotels.com/[/url] -- they do have some pretty cheap prices for low season, even cheaper if you go with the weekly rates. And they do have fan rooms, if you're truly feeling adventurous and want to save that 1000baht or so a week -- personally, I'd be comfortable and just plan on a day where I skip one of either your LT or ST portions :). Some of these are just slightly further from the action, (the Sawasdee Sea View is not) though it's easy enough to get there via songkaew. You can also still walk to the action, as all of them are in the general vicinity, though you may have trouble convincing TGs to hoof it a long way back with you. Personally, I always do a whole lot of walking anyway, so being slightly off the path isn't a bother.
Most of the Bangkok arrivals and departures via China Air are during the day, which means there's no need for you to stay overnight in Bangkok unless that's what you want to do. If they fit your schedule, you might look into the Thai Limousine service -- essentially vans like the SuperShuttle -- which are only about 200baht one-way and leave for Pattaya at 9am, noon, and 7pm and for the airport at 6:30, 2pm and 6:30pm. If you want to do a taxi, you definitely want one from the public stand as opposed to one of the ones inside. It can also pay to chat up folks in the taxi line to see if someone's heading to the same destination, so you can split a fare.
No reason you can't have a good time on that budget -- especially if you're not including airfare in that number. If you are, it's tighter.
PNG - from the arrival hall, you go outside to the curb (probably, of course, after visiting one of the several ATMs to the left and down a ways from where you exit into the exit hall itself). Get Baht (8000 is about $200 - enough for a few days) and avoid the taxi touts (all you will do is get a higher price to get to the same place - the ONLY advantage might be a driver who speaks SOME "An-grit") - go outside to the taxi line (kiosk) and the fare will be 1300 to Pattaya INCLUDING TOLLS OR AT LEAST IT WAS FOR US (which is why I said about finding a fare share to cut costs). "Pattaya Sai Song, Soi Sip" (second road, side street 10) - in the wee hours of the morning (you'll get there about 3am local assuming you get on the road about 0100 local) you will probably need to wake a hotel clerk, stash your stuff, and go prowling (and don't worry, there WILL be plenty to prowl - not "one on every corner" but maybe "every other corner" <SMILE>
"Sawasdee" is what I woould call Pattay's "Motel 6" chain - numerous hotels (cheap) with different prices (depending on location). IF you go to the Sawasdee on Soi 10 (AC nightly was 300B, weekly 1900B IIRC but the clerk didn't want to check if there was availability so I went elsewhere - just back up the dirt road to a "guesthouse" for 200B), and you continue down the dirt road to the end end (same direction as you went in), head thru what appears to be a "back yard" (actually the road itself angling off a bit to the left) and then toward the lights/sound of the beer bars more or less ahead of you (in the tin shed), you can also find availability there (the road is Soi Buekauw), along with beer (of course). If you go back to 2nd Road and turn right, you will find beer bars down a bit (200m or so) on the right side, a bit farther to Soi 8/9 with a multitude of beer bars. If you head to 2nd Road, angle a little off to the left and then down Soi 10 to Beach Road and turn left, maybe 400m there will be a collection of beer bars before you get to Walking street (also a good place at 330 or so) SongTaews are slim that time of morning so you will probably walk (and IF you don't have the 5B (yes, I learned, Freeler) you MIGHT have a problem getting change)
Oh, and a "noodle shop" is either a street vendor or a cook/shop on a moto with an attachment. Pattaya noodles cost 20B/bowl. Those little green or red Thai peppers (mouth burners) are great if you like fire (but not so great (for her) if you have some and then DATY - Mmmmm, SPICY!)
Okay. I'm definitely printing this page out when I go. I'm pretty sure that, with airfare, I can do the whole thing for less than 2,100. The fact that I don't drink beer is a big help. I figure I can suck on a bottle of water for quite some time. Also, I'm gonna take SA's advice and just bang 'em and leave 'em. No lady drinks. No shopping trips. I'm gonna do my best freeler imitation when I bargain, so maybe, given the season, I'll even get some great deals.
Joe, I'll definitely use the limo service. I'm amazed that it's so cheap. That's almost the same cost as a bus ride in the first place, and I can catch it right from the airport, so, no taxi to the bus station, and it'll probably end up cheaper anyway.
Dinghy. Thanks for the specific directions. I'm feeling pretty confident right now :)
Anyone planning on a July run and want to meet up? My tentative dates are July 16th to August 4th.
PNG - when you are out and about during the day, you will be surprised how much water you consume - I was probably in the _6_ liters/day range plus incidentals and beer and whatever else. (A reaction to the humidity in my case. The beach on beach road/5th to 11th is not polluted by sewage any more, just plastic and the occassional broken bottle. Jomtien is a better beach but not so good for monger activity.
You can get a better deal on water at "Mike" department store (grocery section) for 6 liters/18B. depending, rooms have fridges. At least its one place the ants won't go (not joking), otherwise, 5B/bottle for the "low cost water" at 7-11 or familymart (water is water so don't waste your money on name brand stuff (and DON'T drink tap water either - pay the 5B)
as to lady drinks, though, sometimes you get a better idea of what you might be in for by buying a girl a drink ($2 or so)
so much poon, so little time (If you need it, the pharmacy on Soi Post office directly across from Sureena hotel has generic viagra for 4/800B, other places have it for as low as 650, condoms seem to be cheapest in 7-11)
Mike's is another must. At 6 liters a day and 18B/6 liters, that won't really affect the budget :)
Just curious. I was thinking it's rainy season so the beaches would pretty much be a bust. Am I wrong?
Also, what kind of attire? I know that in BKK, shorts and tank tops are considered tacky. What about in Pattaya? Should I pack mostly jeans and short sleeves? Or shorts and tanks?
Sorry for all the questions, but I want to make sure that I'm really prep'd this time around. I had a good time in BKK, but felt like I could have done better if I'd have asked everything that popped into my mind before going.
Pattaya's a beach resort, so dress is far more casual -- lots more shorts and tees. And don't worry too much about the rainy season: it doesn't rain all day or even necessarily every day, and it's generally the tropical pattern -- really intense downpour for a while with the sun often returning shortly thereafter. So the beach isn't absolutely out, though Pattaya's beach isn't the quality of those in Phuket or Koh Samui.
Personally, I try to underpack and then just pick up some clothes locally, since they're so cheap. Even on your budget, setting aside a thousand baht or so for clothes shouldn't be too big a deal.
PNG - you could take almost nothing and buy there. IF you don't want to tote it, buy it there and leave the left overs. Mikes stretches between beach and 2nd at about soi 12. Bring/buy sandals - nothing quite like hot feet to ruin a good walk. The rubber variety are good for beach use, too. IF you are prone to burn, use sunscreen (buy there)- remember, you are at 13 degrees above the equator and the sun is overhead most of the day.
Virtually everything exported from Thailand under a "name brand" is available, and guess what? THEY ARE REAL (not knock offs). IF "Nike" makes it in Thailand, and Nike orders, say, 10000, they make, say, 12000 and deliver Nike their 10000 and locally market the rest (there are of course, sometimes "blems", but for 1/3 to 1/10 the (US) price, who cares.) IF you want/need luggage, buy it in Thailand (a lot of it is made there - I ran into the bag that I wanted (but didn't buy - not big enough) here in US after returning for "70% off" ("only" 3x the Thailand price)
You might not have enough time and directions I'll provide might not mean much - but there is a "market" at Soi Buekaew and roughly "South Road" TUE and FRI. A great wander (tin roof or tent though and like a SAUNA inside - you think Thailand is hot outside, you ain't felt NOTHIN' yet under that open air roof (110+)) There is also the Naklua market Sundays, but to get to either of these the first time, you would probably need help. Good cheap food there (both prepared and "raw" - both places), too. The last place is called "Lukdod store" and they have a site lukdod.com that will give you a location (out north road pretty near the BKK bus station) where you can buy (wholesale if you buy 10x of something) to your hearts content (even luggage - but I found some of the stores in "made in Thailand" on 2nd Road prices actually better - assuming you bargain) Generally, the farther you get from beach road, the more "reasonable" prices become. Seems to hold even for girls, but the pickings get slim the farther "inland" you get.
One last thing - Thailand uses a lot of sweetener (mostly sugar) in almost everything - IF you have a need for "sugar free" you will need to watch yourself since it's difficult to find non-sugar drinks.
roundtrip airfare from the US: $600
water: 10 bht
ST to da TG: 500bht
2 weeks stay in a fan room in Pattaya in the middle of summer:
PRICELESS!!!
SA
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Nobody is going to fuck 3 girls a day and still enjoy it by the end
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I do !
Tap
I finally know who blackmailed me. Guess who ?
who?????
Not me !!!
Isn't it?
LOL
Just returned from my trip to Pattaya which I had to cut short due to business but had a wonderful time again even though it was a short stay. Stayed at the Eastiny inn Soi 8 Hotel has been well reported before got a superior room for 850bht/nht didn't try and negotiate a lesser rate as happy with 850. Hotel very quiet and maybe only 5-6 people round pool during the day, lots of girls around town but very few punters so we are looking at a very high women to man ratio at the moment. Beer prices are also quite low as bars are trying undercut each other to gain custom 40bht for Singha and Chang, I was paying 60-70 in Feb this year.
Decided to visit Koh Samet for a few days went with air-con minibus to Ban-Phe then boat to Island total cost of transport for 2, 900bht found lots of air-con bungalows on island available 600bht/nht very nice island with lots of little secluded beaches where you can swim nude with your girl and fuck on the sand this is paradise. It appears lots of men are taking their honeys here now, the bungalow complex where I stayed was full of interesting moans and groans during the night which help to get you horny again but one drawback lots of Mossies so take repellent. Had a couple of massages whilst there Culture club just off 2nd road close to Dianna inn very poor 800bht for a poor massage then hand job, Sabailand 1500bht for a body-body massage with reciprocal anal probing and mind blowing fuck excellent. Anybody else have any suggestions of places to escape to for 2-3 days with a honey worth seeing.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by LukeSkyWanker
[i]Anybody else have any suggestions of places to escape to for 2-3 days with a honey worth seeing. [/i][/QUOTE]
Go to Koh Chhang.
Its 2 hours drive from Pattaya & 30 Minute in the sea. There you get resort at beach where your room door opens at beach. So you have all facility of room at the beach & enjoy with your honey anywhere anytime. Its peaceful island much better than Koh Samet.
Thanks Khun for the tip I will try Koh Chang on my next visit.
Tap,
your very special, favourite, girl.
She is really the worst ***** I have ever met so far.
But more on that over mail or at our next meeting in LOS. When will you go ?
GoGo Bars:
Polo - Has lesbian, candlewax, and dominatrix shows. Girls are cute and really nice. Some will go out with you after work, around 2am, so you don't have to pay a bar fine. Total nudity inside.
Electric Blue: Cute waitresses, set up like a strip club, girls with the biggest boobs in town. Total nudity inside.
Supergirls: Lots of cuties in this club.
Planet Rock: Has some nice girls, but beware of this place, mamasan tried to extort more money out of me and a friend by keeping one of the girl's money. Out of this experience, it's best to pay the girl directly.
And don't forget to buy your girl a drink, it's expected that you buy her at least one, which she splites 50/50 with the house on profit.
Bar fines are usually 500 baht to take the girl home, plus the girl will expect anywhere from 1000 to 2000 baht in tip for the night. Some girls will sleep overnight, some will stay anywhere from 1 to 7 hours, most want to go home by 6 or 7 am. It depends, you really have to negotiate with the girl.
A lot of the girls are really shy about their bodies, most won't take showers with you, a lot of the girls won't perform any type of oral, and many prefer making out with only a dim lamp on in the room. It's recommended to take the girl out to eat before you bring her back to the place, and they do offer great gfe. The advantage of gogo bar girls is that they get tested every 10 days, and won't do more than one guy in a day. A lot of them play this jealous gf game if they catch you with another lady the next day.
Hotel: Stayed at Roof Garden Inn for 650 baht a night in Pattaya, great location because it's between walking street and jomtien beach.
Transportation: Most cabs are pickup trucks, they charge 5 baht a ride to locals and 10 baht to foreigners, just give them 10 and walk away after the ride. Beware, some cabbies like to take advantage of tourist by asking for more money. It's best to get a cab that's moving instead of a stationary one.
If you have a girl with you, cabbies tend to want more money, if the girl has her own motorbike, that's the way to travel.
At the end of the night, it's a courtesy to get her cab fare for her if she doesn't have a motorbike, about 40 bahts for one of the local motorbike cabbies to take her home.
bruce lee
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The advantage of gogo bar girls is that they get tested every 10 days, and won't do more than one guy in a day
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Wrong !!!
Sad to say that and I would be happy if otherwise.
Gogo girls tend to go ST - not all but many - cause they can get more money that way. I know many girls that try to do as many guys (= money) as possible.
Most of them just get checked once a month for standard VD, once every 3 months for HIV. Not every gogo offers or even enforces it. Easy for them to avoid it too.
Be careful, play safe.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Samus Aran
[i]Purplengold:
HAve you ever traveled before? Sounds like you havent? I suggest getting another part time job maybe as a waiter or something to add more $$$ to your budget. If you really want to not have to worry about things, stay home and get a hooker in USA. I mean think of the $1000 dollars in airfare that you can save plus your $2000 dollars. Added up it is $3000. Could you enertain yourself for 15 days on $3000 dollars. Lets do the math 3000/15 is $200 per day. You dont need rent because you already pay that anyways. Seems awfully silly to worry about everything ie food, how many girls st<, before you even get to Thailand. Nobody is going to fuck 3 girls a day and still enjoy it by the end. Just get here and stop worrying... By the way are you German? From the way that you are planning everything you sound like a German tourist.
Friends,
Samus Aran [/i][/QUOTE]
I've been to quite a few places. And, in travelling, I've finally learned my lesson that planning and budgeting beforehand makes for a much more enjoyable trip. No, I'm not German, though I think German readers would find your remark offensive.
You can't do 3 girls a day? I'm surprised. I figured, based on your 3F strategy that doing mass quantities would be your MO.
I could afford to spend more, but I'm budgeting because I want to spend less. Last time, I made a mistake and wasted a lot of money on stupid shit like a hotel room suite that I didn't need, eating at high end restaurants that serve the same quality food as the rest, etc... Why is there something wrong with budgeting?
You brought it up, so let's do the math. First, I said, that $2100 includes airfaire ($611 total round trip). So, really, I'm looking at $1500 for 17 days. That's less than $100/day. Plenty for a good time in LOS, but not enough to be frivolous. You think a guy can visit even visit one AMP a day stateside for less than a C-note? The cost for a one-pop, 30 minute affair is $110-130 in So Cal, and the quality varies. An independent in-call is somehwere in the range of $200-300 and likely to be a ROB. So, even at your estimation of $200, day, A trip to Thailand and having beautiful women making me think that I'm the most important thing in their world (at least for a short time) is definitely worth it.
As for your remark about not planning things out, isn't that what this board is for? For getting information specifically to plan out what we want to do, how much it'll cost, where to find the best deals, etc?
Maybe we can meet up when I get there and you can try to convince me that planning was wrong.
L8r,
Purple & Gold
[QUOTE]Originally posted by bruce_lee
[i]GoGo Bars:
"Polo - Has lesbian, candlewax, and dominatrix shows."
Candlewax show? What on earth is that? Sounds intrigueing :)
"The advantage of gogo bar girls is that they get tested every 10 days, and won't do more than one guy in a day. [/i][/QUOTE]Number 56 in in Supergirls told me she shags up to 4 men a night several days in a row during the peak season around Christmas. And shes still a great shag! If you like the white chinese looking girls, give her a shot.
hey Bruce - You give them the _5_B and walk, not the 10 (I got foisted big time for "raising prices for falangs in Pattaya")
PNG - you could include souvenirs in your not-quite-$100/day and have room left over. Most is spent on entertainment (and fluids)
Samus -
I agree with your comments. A balanced life WITH great sex is the way to go. When I visited Pattaya last month, I got bored with JUST sex. The sex wasn't boring, but hey -- most of us guys need something in addition to it. That is why I cut my time shorter than planned in Pattaya and went back to Bangkok. It's fun at first to see how many and how many times you can do it in a day, but that get's tiring (at my age). Just gotta get it out of your system when you first arrive in Thailand.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Samus Aran
[i]PNG:
SA is not a tourist. I spend 8-10 hours a day working. Hit the gym and swimming pool, then head home. You see you are asking the wrong person about budgeting for sex. Yes, SA is till the 3f man. But, after 5 years here, sex has become well lets say... routine and boring. Just another expense that I frankly could do without. SA has acclimated to the lifestyle and customs here. Yea, sure when I first got here I did the same shit that a regular tourist would do... but after a few months it gets old. That is where I am coming from. But, your traveling for sex. My vacation days are filled with searching for the best 50 meter pool in SE Asia and lowering my time in the 200 meter freestyle. Certainly a loftier goal than seeing how many hos I can bang in a day. (Thailand has some real beautiful pools by the way.) I dont live near the sex areas so it is basically out of sight out of mind. And, even when I see it, well... it doesnt look good anymore. Do others agree with this who live here? Probably. I am not in Thailand for the sex.
Yea, sure I can meet up. I make the move to Bangkok next weekend. Give me a time. I am not that bad of a guy. I sound scarier over a computer.
Samus Aran [/i][/QUOTE]
Of course, the perspective of guys on vacation is different from those living in the visited place -- that's true everywhere. Seventeen days isn't all that long a stretch, and certainly one where someone can look to be shooting with different partners three times a day. Overall, I'm with Samus and SeattleGman that it gets old after a while if it's the only thing to do -- which is pretty much the rule in Pattaya. PNG, I think you and Samus would probably get along great ftf -- you should look to hook up in BKK and yack a bit.
Hey Folks. Well, I am back from Thailand.
Before I left I spent alot of time on this forum and others, convinced I really wanted to be part of the whole scene. When I got there I found myself a little shy.
I did meet several girls on the internet. It was simple, I went to http://profiles.yahoo.com and clicked on advanced search, and searched from girls who were online and had photos at the time. I met several girls, had sex with 2, and 69ed with another. One girl stayed with me for 6 days in Koh Phi Phi (we did it 2-3 times per day). All for free.
I did meet a friendly chap from England and one from France. The lot of us went to gogos. Happys had the cutest girls, but I enjoy Nudity (they had a brief show, nothing to write home about).
Polo club had a great show. They had a girl covered with oil pouring candle wax all over, they had 2 girl shows.... yup it was great.
In Living Dolls I met a girl named Maliwan. I was quite drunk, she was not cute, but she jumped right on me and I was so shy I couldn’t say no. She asked for my hotel name and room number, and said shed be there latter.
I met a cuter girl late late that night in a beer bar. I barfined her and brought her back, ready for my first experience. But Maliwan showed up.
Maliwan is a freak and was all about the 3 some, but the beer bar girl was not, and did not seem to like Maliwan. Easy choice here, bye bye beer bar girl (I gave her 500 baht for her time) and on to Maliwan.
She was very good, not pretty but she worked hard. I got 2 nuts that night and one the next morning. Good times! I gave her 1000 baht and was pretty happy.
I'm back in USA and I can't wait to go back to Thailand. Not so much for the girls, but more for Koh Phi Phi, I love it there. I am still interested in the scene, and maybe I will enjoy it more next time (I am only 23).
Hi Everyone,
Heading back to TH/Pattaya in August. It's been 4 years since my last visit. CAn anyone whose sampled recently advise what the current short/long rates are for beer bar and gogo girls?
Any tips on where the real cuties are would be appreciated too!
Cheers
J
The periods & way
For a tourist with 3-4 days in Pattaya - the only entertainment is banging the girls, 3 or 5 or 6 a day. He will definitely enjoy Pattaya. 3F is the best way, go for ST even in night 3 ST better then one LT.
For a tourist with 15-30 days in Pattaya - best way to get LT & enjoy girl friendly experience. Not just bang, Bang in night & make her companion in day for tourist attractions. Yes keep distance & don't fall in love. Sometime may be take girl & go to nearby area or islands. Sure you will enjoy. In my opinion this is only place in the world where you can buy girl friends.
For a resident - No gogos, No ST, No LT. Hit MPs to fulfil your sex desires. There are many other entertailnment available to enjoy.
am I write Zel.da ?
Enjoy as per the time you have !!!!
Arrived in LOS a few days ago. Tried Thermae and had a nice girl for 1000 B and she stayed the night, maybe she was just tired. Nice none the less. Annie's was the next afternoon and overall the girls are kind of scarey. I took a 29 yr girl Ow and she provided a good level of service.1600b plus I tipped her 500b. Next night I went to Nana, but found the clubs pretty aggresive. Ended up at Nana Disco,and liked the setup,no pressure. Met Ann and took her out to eat then, Hard Rock, then hotel. She wanted 2000b and I didn't argue at that point. It was a fun evening. In Pattaya now and have done the walking st thing the last few nights. The clubs look very empty and they are standing on the st with cheap beer signs to get you in. Took a girl home for 700b and gave her 300b tip, good service.Made arrangements for her to come to my hotel the next night,and she showed up supported by 2 friends dead drunk. I was happy to get rid of her the next morning.
I've been to Buenos Aires and the Ukraine and the Thai's are not as on the clock as elsewhere and they are dolls.I appreciate all the posts from other members and will try to post as I travel around Thailand.
Psyche
Psyche Man -
You need to help us preserve the market prices in LOS. I think 2000B is high for LT, unless she is an absolute stunner. That is still cheap by USA standards, but that is not the issue here. Pattaya prices are generally 1000B for LT and 500B for ST. Bangkok was higher, but some girls went for 1000B for LT, and some wouldn't go less than 1000B for ST. One girl demanded 2000B for LT, but I resisted and said no (but she was young and hot!). It's a buyers market now and use that to your advantage. Just my opinion, no disrespect intended.
Marauder -
Interesting story and such. I like to take pictures, but won't give any out that show any nudity. It's a personal preference.
I think if you were honest, and let the girls know you were going to post them, then it's okay. If not, then it's not real kosher.
I don't think it's honest to go to a poor country and expect girls to pick up the check. If you're banging them, even if you're not paying them directly, you're paying them something. They will hope or expect some gold when you leave or such. Not much different from women anywhere in the world.
I think your approach to finding non-pros is interesting. I think Thai chicas probably lie about as much as other women around the world. Especially when they may be supporting a lot of brothers and other family.
Hi, Newbie here. I am headed to bkk late Sept. 1st time. Staying at the Majestic for 2 weeks. One of my fettieshes is getting a couple or three girls and taing pics and video while boffing the shit out of 'em. :<) My question is will I have a hard time getting TGs to go along?
Just came back from LOS. (Although I think people smile a lot more in Cambodia and Indonesia than in LOS. Even the men!)
Spent approx. B80.000 on 44 bangs. Comes to under B2000 each. This includes all drinks, lady-drinks, barfines, short-time rooms on site sometimes and the girls fees plus some small gifts. One LT, all the rest STs.In dollars around $50 for a whole night of entertainment.
Also spent around B100.000 on 80 nights of accomodation, food, travels (by train and bus), moto, taxi, beers in the hotel room, on the beach and a couple of visits to the dentist. The hotels were quite reasonable, the Grace Hotel in Bkk for B930 and about same category in Pattaya. Some cheapies for B200 up-country like Phitsanulok, etc. It was a great trip as far as holidays go, I think. The figures might help someone plan their own trip.
SeattleGman/Psyche: Info on going rates appreciated.
Any comments on venues in terms of babe quality or anything else (ie. which to go to/which to watch out for etc)?
Cheers
J
Hey Jaimito, thank you for your comments.
Yes, you are the second person to say that putting the pictures up may have been in bad taste. I an considering taking them down, or at least covering their faces like I did my own.
:) I didn't want the girls to pay, I am more then happy to! I just wanted to let everyone know that these girls are very nice and not tring to use me. I never expected any of them to pay, it was just worth mentioning because it was surprizing to hear them offer.
Yeah, you are right about them lying. JoJo ended up having several net boyfriends, and probabally a few real ones. Bad news, I am sorry I barebacked it with that one. :)
Warm Regards
Marauder
Guys talking about the taking of photos when in Thailand, and what you do with them be it putting them on the net or showing them to your friends, etc. If a Thai girl charges you, when you take photos of her she has no real say in what you do with those pictures. I don’t really even know if what you tell the girls matters all that much. Because let us face the facts these girls lie to the customer all the time so why should we be held to a higher standard then the girls. Anytime a girl lets a picture be taken they are taking a chance that it will be seen. But even knowing that they still do it why? Because they want the money pure and simply.
Marauder,
"JoJo ended up having several net boyfriends, and probabally a few real ones. Bad news, I am sorry I barebacked it with that one." ---- what happened? Did you catch some uncurable strain of the clap..or some form of "Saigon rose".... hope you're ok!
Just got back from Thailand not long ago. Had a great time. For the regulars there you know the deal. For those who have never been, go!
I stayed at the Marriot and hung out mostly on Walking street. Frequented a Soapie off of 2nd street named PP club. Pretty good. Fish bowl type deal. Had great time at Superbaby, FLB and Tonys. For those who don't know, you can get laid at tony's for free.
Didn't really do the BJ bars... they looked too nasty for me. For food go to Tarzan hut or precha(sattahip) for good inexpensive sea food. Just ask a local for recommendations.
Didn't do edens when in Bangkok. Got laid on Soy Cowboy and was satisfied.
I rather have Pattay over Bangkok. Although there is a better chance of hooking up with a cute local in Bangkok. More around.
For jewelry go to Thai stone, nana plaza, bangkok. Good reputation and prices. Stay away from "the worlds largest gem store," or something like that.
Great time! Enjoy!
SexReview -- to me it's simple enough: I wonder how anyone here would take to their pic being put on the net when we didn't directly agree to that, even if we agreed to it being taken. Whether or not this involves a working girl really doesn't matter -- this is a pretty basic issue of personal respect and control. I personally reject the idea that I'm any better than any of the women I happen to hire on a general basis -- we're both engaging in one side or another of a contract -- me for services I want, them for services they're willing to offer. When you combine all this with the fact that plenty of these women have no [i]real[/i] concept of what having their pic on the net really means, this whole issue gets, for me, uncomfortably close to exploitation, which I try to stay away from.
From a legal standpoint in terms of general international (and US) copyright law you're simply not correct -- unless someone has signed a model release, you have no absolute right to post such pics, whether you've paid the woman to take them or not. (And this is one of the very few areas where I'll actually claim a degree of knowledge and expertise as opposed to opinion -- I've spent a fair amount of time dealing with online copyright issues.) Obviously, the practical situation is different, but there's certainly no moral high ground for such posters, and arguing that these women lie to us has no bearing in the equation -- they don't lie to us about whether or not they want their pictures posted, but about how much they care about us, what they need money for, or how great we are as sexual partners, etc. A lie in such matters doesn't somehow mean automatic forfeiture of rights in other areas.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Joe_Zop
[i]SexReview
From a legal standpoint in terms of general international (and US) copyright law you're simply not correct -- unless someone has signed a model release, you have no absolute right to post such pics, whether you've paid the woman to take them or not.[/i][/QUOTE]
A model release protects the person who takes the photo and the people who then use the photo. But in the real life world a Thai girl could do very little even if you didn't have a model release. What is she going to do come to a US court and file a action? She can't get a visa to the US and would have no way of paying the cost involed. And then she would need to prove her case. Don't want to get into a big deal here. I still stand by what I siad in the first post about the subject. The main reason most of these girls don't want pictures on the net is that the boyfriend who is home in Germany, England, the US, etc. may see them and know she is not home but still working the bar. With that the baht bus would be cut off.
I don't disagree that you can do whatever you want basically without consequences -- note that I specifically said "from a legal standpoint" -- only with the idea that someone's somehow justified in doing so just because you paid the woman for sex. If you want to look at it from a practical perspective, you can post photos of anyone, whether they're a pro or not, and there's not much they can do about it; whether someone's been paid is irrelevant to what you can get away with with digital information, as is obvious with all the pirated stuff all over the net and all over LOS. I like taking pics of TGs as much as anyone else, but that doesn't mean I feel I somehow have the right -- either legal or moral -- to post pics wherever I please once I have them. From a practical perspective, I'm against the practice of posting them willy-nilly online without getting consent simply because it makes it less likely that the next TG is going to agree to let me bring my camera into the equation, or at least to do so without extra cost.
I find your perspective rather ironic considering your posts detailing worries and unsubstantiated rumors about hidden cameras at Eden. Guess it's not so casual an issue if we're the ones who don't have control.
Curiosity question - is it possible that some girls will expect more money if you stay in a higher priced location (or "higher classed" place if you like)? How much of expectations are there based on HOTEL?
I tend to stay in the cheap seats and try to keep expenses down to a dull roar anyway. I'd rather spend money for entertainment than a room charge
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Joe_Zop
[i]I don't disagree that you can do whatever you want basically without consequences ......
.....I find your perspective rather ironic considering your posts detailing worries and unsubstantiated rumors about hidden cameras at Eden. Guess it's not so casual an issue if we're the ones who don't have control. [/i][/QUOTE]
Joe_Zip,
I agree with you things are changing I remember when you could walk into the clubs at Nana Plaza with a video camera in hand and no one seemed to care. But that was before the net was really getting started. I just have the opinion that if you pay a girl to take pictures then she has no say in what you do with them. But if I was publishing photos I would get a release to protect myself call it overkill.
I don’t see a problem with my stand on shooting photos vs. hidden cameras in the Eden Club. The difference is I will not shoot a girl nude unless she consents to the photos. I would never hide a camera in my hotel room to take pictures. I don’t have a problem with business using hidden cameras as long as they tell the public surveillance cameras are in use.
I have been to Las Vegas and gone into the casinos all of which have many hidden cameras. But that is my choice, they tell you if you want to come in we are watching, also I trust the respectful and honest corporations behind the Las Vegas casinos not to misuse the information that they gain through surveillance. I cannot say the same thing for Marc and his operation.
Sexreview
Well, I just don't see a lot of difference between lying to a TG about what you're going to do with photos and being lied to about whether or not there are cameras (which there's certainly no proof is happening at Eden.) The issues are still deception and control of what's done with your image.
But I'm going to drop this discussion, at least here, as it's a bit off-topic for Pattaya.
Dinghy - Well, there's always a chance they'll try and up the fee if you are in a fancy place. I *always* negotiate price first, after I decide that I want them.
As far as I know, there is no upside to just taking a girl, and figuring out the price later. You will only pay more.
In the Argentina forum, we've had a lot of discussions with pay before, or pay after. The only things I ever paid for first in Thailand was a barfine. I was never asked for money up front (except massage places) from any Bar Girl or independent.
If they do ask for it upfront, I'd consider it a bad sign.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by SexReview
[i]What is she going to do come to a US court and file a action? She can't get a visa to the US and would have no way of paying the cost involed. And then she would need to prove her case. [/i][/QUOTE]
I heard a new law in US will be applicable to all US citizan for thier crimes even out of US. A suit can be filed in US court. Fir this there is no need to go to USA. An internet advocate can help you. But it is more dangerous if Thai police catch you before you leave this country say at air port like they did few days before saying that this british citizan has posted some remarks on the net which spoiled Thai image.
Beware of things like this.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by The_Traveler
[i]bruce lee
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The advantage of gogo bar girls is that they get tested every 10 days, and won't do more than one guy in a day
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Wrong !!!
Sad to say that and I would be happy if otherwise.
Gogo girls tend to go ST - not all but many - cause they can get more money that way. I know many girls that try to do as many guys (= money) as possible.
[/i][/QUOTE]
This is true. Because I BFed girl from Classroom, and they would not let her leave till midnight for LT.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by eltib
[i]This is true. Because I BFed girl from Classroom, and they would not let her leave till midnight for LT. [/i][/QUOTE]
Classroom is a strange bar I also run into this problem with them. I wanted to bar fine two girls at around 8:00 at night and they said no. I saw the two girls the next day and both went home alone that night.
The bigger issue here is that bar or club owners should not be able to control the girls and your actions. We pay a bar fine to the bar so the girl can be off work at that point what happens should be between you and the girl end of the story. The club as been paid at that point. Maybe if more guys boycotted these places the rules would change quick.
When I was told that I couldn’t Bar Fine the two girls I went to my friends and told them lets leave and I’ll buy the next round. So about 12 guys got up and walked out. I made it clear to the manager that this no bar fine until after a set time was bull. The next week when I went in and every time after that no problems with bar fines.
We the guys going to the clubs are in control, they need our baht more than we need the clubs. So when ever a club try’s to control your private actions with girls, be it about photos or about no bar fines until a set time we should more on.
Sexreview
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Joe Smuff
[i]Any comments on venues in terms of babe quality or anything else?
J [/i][/QUOTE]
Babe in Pattaya
You may get Babe in Heaven Entertainment Complex. The dek/no bra section has low aged young girls (above 18). I encountered with one last week & will appreciate the attitude. In egenral in all my three visits to this place I have found the attitude as great.
enjoy...
[QUOTE]Originally posted by eltib
[i]This is true. Because I BFed girl from Classroom, and they would not let her leave till midnight for LT. [/i][/QUOTE]
Sorry !!! "Classroom" is not an appropriate example to proove gogos or gogos' girls behaviour. "Classroom" also stop sometime visitors at the gate saying it is ionly for members. May be based on race or what I don't know? Same happened "Living Dolls" also. These are the two clubs only where they stop some people saying it is for members only. But I cann't say that all gogos are member club in Pattaya.
Pattaya is full of clubs & girls. Don't get frustated with behavior of one club or one girl. There are good & bad also.
enjoy...
[QUOTE]Originally posted by SexReview
[i]
We the guys going to the clubs are in control, they need our baht more than we need the clubs. So when ever a club try’s to control your private actions with girls, be it about photos or about no bar fines until a set time we should more on.
Sexreview [/i][/QUOTE]
I agree wholeheartdly. Too many bars in Pattaya to let a little quirk from stopping your enjoyment. Just made my reservation for my 3rd trip in November.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by khun
[i]Sorry !!! "Classroom" is not an appropriate example to proove gogos or gogos' girls behaviour. "Classroom" also stop sometime visitors at the gate saying it is ionly for members. May be based on race or what I don't know? Same happened "Living Dolls" also. These are the two clubs only where they stop some people saying it is for members only. But I cann't say that all gogos are member club in Pattaya.
Pattaya is full of clubs & girls. Don't get frustated with behavior of one club or one girl. There are good & bad also.
enjoy... [/i][/QUOTE]
I hate Living Dolls I and II. Overpriced girls with attitudes.
Peppermint was cool, but they wouldn't even let you take a camera inside the place. I've never encountered that prob at other go-gos, as long as I didn't pull the camera out.
Big Willies......Ho Hum.
Superbabies and Supergirls, I've heard negative reports from friends, about a majority of the girls don't put out. Never barfined one, but have prowled in there.
Misty's I like, but I don't know Andy's or Tim's policies if they're like the Classroom.
There's many more I need to visit, so I plan on it in November. One thing I intend on doing is hitting the various "Soapies." So far I've only been to Sabai Room.
Guys,
It is really simply if a bar or club in Pattaya puts in policies that you don't like, just stop going to the club. Right now things are very slow in the city they need every customer. So just walk and go to the clubs that are friendly to the needs of the customer. Make sure that you tell the clubs you are not going to why. And when the greeters outside try to get you into the club tell them why you will not go in. They will change their ways because they need the business.
Sexreview
[QUOTE]Originally posted by eltib
[i]Superbabies and Supergirls, I've heard negative reports from friends, about a majority of the girls don't put out. Never barfined one, but have prowled in there.
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I have BFed few times from Supers' and had no problems. Neither time problem not attitude. but
My experince with gogo girl is that they want to go to disco with you or to see show. What I think they want to kill the time till 2:00 am somewhere else than getting banged in your room & wait to get you drunk.
Sexreview :
There are two reason why taking a pic/video in any gogo bar is forbidden.
First the owner tries to protect his business. They don't know you and therefore never know if you are taking pics to prove what's going on inside, like topless dancing, nude shows and so on. Sure, police knows what's going on, but as long as they don't have prove they can't reject his license or just charge him more.
Second reason is to protect the girls. Most of them tell their families that they have a normal job. They don't want to find their faces printed in a newspaper, seen on tv or the internet.
That's it, don't take it personal and just respect the rules
Hi,
I will be in LOS from 9/21 - 10/5. Anybody want to meet to have a drink or two ?
Tap, DJ, got time ? If so, mail me !
Traveler,
I will be in Thailand towards the end of October (no dates yet) but in BKK not Pattaya. I would like to meet for a drink and exchange notes... Please, No Cameras...lol
juice.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by khun
[i]Babe in Pattaya
You may get Babe in Heaven Entertainment Complex. The dek/no bra section has low aged young girls (above 18). I encountered with one last week & will appreciate the attitude. In egenral in all my three visits to this place I have found the attitude as great.
enjoy... [/i][/QUOTE]I will Khun - cheers! Thanks also SexReview / etlib / Kokaroach.
Will be there in a few weeks - 6 days only :( and didn't want to waste time checking out dud places etc.
Will post an update on what I find.
J
[QUOTE]Originally posted by The_Traveler
[i]Sexreview :
There are two reason why taking a pic/video in any gogo bar is forbidden.
First the owner tries to protect his business.
Second reason is to protect the girls.
That's it, don't take it personal and just respect the rules [/i][/QUOTE]
Traveler,
Please go back and read the post I already know the reasons and it has much more to do with proof of illegal actions than anything else. The comment I was making was prior to the internet you could walk into the clubs with a video camera running and no one cared. The girls may have but the clubs said nothing. But since the internet became so popular and a video shot in a club Monday is on the net Tuesday the rules have changed.
Sexreview
Under the Water
One man was enjoying the bath in a water pool & I felt something is sticking to him. When he came nearby I saw it was a small thai girl just sticking to him like a lizard. A big Lizard like Tokay. He is just travelling in the water on foot, not swiming.
After sometime I found this guy standing in the water & the girl facing him was jumping. Something strange.
Few minutes after the girl was 45 deg tilted & this guy was jumping. I could not control & took in dip in the water.
Oh my my!!! It was banging under water!!!
What a Style!!!
The face expression of both people was like live show of X movie. Oh!!! I got hard.
Hey this is happening in a public place. A Water Park. Nearby kids are playing & enjoying slides. I don't know how many notice this.
Now the people who say it is nothing in BFE with TGs shall think back. Does FFF can enjoy this?
This can happen only in Pattaya.
Enjoy...
Is the Marriott in Pattaya guest-friendly?
i dun think so...i am pretty sure u need to pay a heafty joiner fee at the mariott
tapioca
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Hulk
[i]Is the Marriott in Pattaya guest-friendly? [/i][/QUOTE]
The Marriott Hotel does have a joiner fee. I believe it is 800 or 1000 baht, during Cobra Gold they wave the fee because the US Government is paying for the rooms and they will not pay for girls. But the rest of the year everyone pays. You can sometimes avoid the fee if you request a garden room and enter from Beach Road. They do have a guard working that you may have to pay a fee baht nut less than the joiner fee.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by eltib
[i]I hate Living Dolls[/i][/QUOTE]
but I love "Living Dolls"
They should be dolls & living.
If she is living but not a doll, I don't need. I have back at home who is living. I go Pattaya leaving her at home becuase she is not a doll.
If she is a doll but not living (dead in the bed) I don't love her. My kids may like to play with dolls which are not living.
but I love living dolls only.
where I get in Pattaya
enjoy...
Just left Pattaya and would like to recommend a hotel I stayed at. It's Sandy Springs on Soi 13 (66) 038 414 752-8. It has a good location,walking distance to everything and no problem with bringing the ladies in.One night they did take the girl's ID,but most of the time just walk in. I paid 350B for a membership and the price goes from 1200B to 990B. The rooms are very nice and apparently new. The street is quiet and if you are above the 7th floor there is a view of the ocean. 3rd floor has a nice pool. There are a group on beer bars across the street from Big C that I found to have a very good selection of Beauties! Like Toy bar. Tried Sabai Body Massage and didn't think it was very good. My buddy and I each thought the girls very mechanical. The girl I had asked for the money up front which I didn't like,should have walked at that point,but the conclusion was satisfactory.Used Mermaid Diving in Pattay and thought they were good,but the visability is poor this time of year.
Hi fellows/
I'm back to the board just for ask u something wich can be very useful for all of us.
Does anyone have ever had problems with credit cards in Pattaya ?
Just few days ago the Visa Card company called me telling me someone was using my card in UK (Manchester,Glasgow,Swansea,London).Now,last time I used my Visa was in Pattaya where I've been for 6 months (from December 02 'till May 03).During this time I've been to Singapore and Japan too where I used my Visa as well but there are more chances that my card was cloned in Pattaya.
Not a big problem anyway,I'll get my money (2,100,00 euro) in a month,but the annoying things like go to police,send fax,copy of passport,ask for a new card etc.,etc..
If anyone got same problem or knows something more about it please let us know.
As I know, Visa and Master card are easier to counterfeit than American Express.
This is first time in almost 18 years of Asia and Pattaya that something like this happens to me.....There's always the first time...I know.
OK, good hunting, I hope to come back soon.
M.
Never had a problem but I also keep a few cards that have very low limit on them. That way even if they cloned a card only a couple of thousand dollars worth left on the cards.
KHUN
Once I saw this old(ish) guy running after a TG with his 'old fella' in his hand out in the open. All this out on the street near Mike S/C. Not that there is anything wrong with that. We are just taught to be too prudish about these things. Pattaya's enlightenment is well ahead of the rest of the world. As far as I am concerned, civilisation ends as soon as you step out of P. It is still the place to be. (Not everyone might agreee though.)
Also, we often ask: 'How come there are go-go bars, etc in P.ya?'
Instead we should ask: "Why are there no go-go bars elsewhere, in the west for example? Why not?"
We are just so much behind.
I have only had problems with ATMs not taking my card, if you guys have PayPal and want to pay for things or get money out of the ATMs with your PayPal card, it will be shut off the first time you use it.
Then its a major pain to get it back on. You have to fax them certain legal documents before they will turn your account back on.
If you call them ahead of time they will let you use the card for a 30 day period. You will need to speak to a supervisor as not all of the operators at PayPal know that this can be done.
Jay
Hi marcostraight,
I had the same problem in March. The Visa card company called me. also I was told that they were many cases. In my case someone bought via Internet diamonds and computer stuff. However, the Visa company became suspicious and blocked my Visa card. I had no harm. I paid with my Visa card my hotel and some stuff at Big C and Royal Garden. If there was a cheat I do not know 100%. The times before I had never problems.
So, I can tell you that you were not the only one and probable, it is a cold comfort for you.
Regards
Sting
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I have just been reminded of my duties as a WSG member. I was in Thailand recently for 10 days. Nowhere near long enough. I am a Pattaya man myself. Bangkok is meagre in comparison but does offer some quality women. I had a much better time in the massage parlours in Bangkok. Once again some stunning women.
I got taken by a real pro in Pattaya. She dragged me everywhere but it was worth the wait. She called me at my hotel the next night to ask me what she should wear and had an even better night. She looked like Halle Berry. Unusaual for a Thai I thought. She can be found in a small go go bar on Soi 7 or could be? Get there early or she will not be there!
I don't recommend the large massage parlours in Pattaya as mentioned by some one else. It was a poor show compared to Bangkok.
I will be going back again next year for longer. Being press ganged by my brother to go back. Its a hard life as he has not been there.
Thst's my advice, be safe be happy, and once you have chosen a girl take her back and fuck her.
Bye
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Hi Sting/
Let me ask you...Did you use your card at Fuji Restaurant in Big C ? It's that japanese restaur. on the left side of the first entrance.I got a friend of mine who said he's 90% sure that his card (Master Card) has been cloned there and 100 % at Big C.
(He used his Master Card only in Big C).
I hope we talk about the same dep.store.The first one at the end of the second road (after the Sabai Room body massage).
Have you ever been at the Internet Cafe' on the first floor of Royal Garden looking for your Visa situation on the net ?(If you are registered like Visa client on the Net).
Of course it won't be easy to find out the place where our cards have been cloned (probably impossible),but with our messages we can easily avoid or prevent next frauds...*
*I will pay more attention before using my card at Big C.
M.
Speaking about credit/debit cards - I get cash, leave the card in the lock box and spend the cash. It's easier than losing the credit card number, but it DOES require that I know where the cash machines are.
There are indeed a very large number of hos sitting from early in the morning on Pattaya beach til very late at night.
Their business is pretty obvious. Prices must be pretty rock-bottom but I had never seen one that I really liked.
So I just paid a bit more and kept going to the go-gos. Also was quite afraid of the possible complications of hooking up with a ho without any stable contact.
Greater was my surprise when one evening I saw this very cute little girl squatting there on the beach, near soi 12. I wondered what she was doing there alone since she was just so much above the standard of the usual hos in that part of town.
Very simply dressed really, just shorts and a hort sleeve shirt but it's all squeeky clean as if just came out of the laundry, hair well kempt and one the most perfect set of gleaming white teeth that I have ever come across. She was also holding a cute little handbag.
She readily smiled back to me. (Beautiful teeth are a big turn-on). My first thought was that she was waiting for her thai boyfriend or husband and they gonna get in a Merc to head back home to Rayong or somewhere.
I squatted down next to her and asked(just to be sure):
"What are you doing here?"
"Look farang. Look you."
Well, it couldn't have been more clear than that. We got to talk a bit. Her English quite passable. She was indeed from Rayong. She had one kid. No food. The usual story.
Started working a couple of weeks ago. She was not too young, 25. I actually checked her ID. She showed me her kid's foto too.
I still wasn't quite sure if I really wanted a girl from the beachside so I proposed that we go and eat some simple thai food and I would think about what's going to happen.
If I don't take her to the room she gets 200 baht. If we get along well and do the deed then she gets 500 baht. She agreed.
Off we went to walking street, grabbed some cheap thai food in a soi, had a look of Living Dolls-a-gogo.
She turned out to be a great company, intelligent, gentle, submissive so we headed off to the hotel. She was a bit shy (no oral either way) but who cares when you can get that any day.
Had the most amazing time. It was very much like as if we had known each other for 10 years or something. How can some hos do this?
I felt in real danger of getting broken hearted so had to act before it was too late. It was just too good. I don't like that.
She seemed upset when I told her after about 3 hours that time was up. She got paid. But how could I give someone I liked so much just 500 baht? So I gave another 300, saying:
"It's for your kid. For food."
I know I am stupid. But it's still better than a broken heart.
At least nobody owes nothing. So, she went back squatting and I off to walking street to find another ho that hopefully wouldn't be quite as 'good' as this one.
Funny thing. When they are too good it's also no good. At least if you want to stay single.
Same approach for me, Dinghy, except that at times I'll pay for hotels and airline tickets using CCs. Have never had a problem getting cloned doing that.
JawDawg, very interesting story. I didn't run into the same problem using a PayPal card, however. I didn't pay for anything, just grabbed baht from an ATM a couple of times.
yes I still check out this part of the boards...anyways, just to add in my 2 cents.
I just got hammered for about $1,400 USD worth of goods from somewhere in Australia. The asshole tried to do another $800 worth but luckily, my bank card stopped it. Since this was on my check card, it took the cash directly from my checkings account. Thank god for credit protection cause I got my money back in a week.
Hey Marcostraight, it's funny u talked about that Japanese resturant in the Big C...cause I did eat there in my March trip. That was like 5 months ago though. Don't u think the thieves would have charged my ass a lot sooner?
sup Joe!
tapioca
I have used my AMEX 100 times in that Big C. "Touchwood" till date no problem. I do check my card bill on net frequently to check such activity.
enjoy...
Hi Marcostraight,
Well we are talking from the same big C and I know theJjapanese restaurant but I have never eaten there so that I can say that this has happened in another location.
However, I used my credit card now only for buying an air ticket or big hotel.
As you mentioned it will be very difficult to find the right place or better this asshole who cloned our cards. I am also happy that the credit company made a good job.
The internet cafe at Royal Garden. I have never been there, but your advice is a good idea because it is not a good feeling to come home and get an call from the Visa company. I hate all administration stuff.
See you.
Sting
[QUOTE]Originally posted by marcostraight
[i]Hi Sting/
Let me ask you...Did you use your card at Fuji Restaurant in Big C ? It's that japanese restaur. on the left side of the first entrance.I got a friend of mine who said he's 90% sure that his card (Master Card) has been cloned there and 100 % at Big C.
(He used his Master Card only in Big C).
I hope we talk about the same dep.store.The first one at the end of the second road (after the Sabai Room body massage).
Have you ever been at the Internet Cafe' on the first floor of Royal Garden looking for your Visa situation on the net ?(If you are registered like Visa client on the Net).
Of course it won't be easy to find out the place where our cards have been cloned (probably impossible), but with our messages we can easily avoid or prevent next frauds...*
*I will pay more attention before using my card at Big C.
M. [/i][/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mistapenus
[i]She seemed upset when I told her after about 3 hours that time was up. She got paid. But how could I give someone I liked so much just 500 baht? So I gave another 300, saying:
"It's for your kid. For food."
I know I am stupid. But it's still better than a broken heart.
[/i][/QUOTE]
not at all Mistapenus.. you did a nice thing.. not a stupid thing.
they are human too!!
and you got it cheap for 500 bht anyway so you add another 300bht. man just the barfine at a beerbar would have cost you 500...
you did a real good thing...
It's been some time since I've posted, but I don't usually have much to say unless I've recently been to LOS. That being said, I just returned last week, and so here goes another post.
I won't bore you with the details, as I have posted them before. If you want the details, please search under my User Name. In summary, though, I'm the type of guy who can escape from the real world for about 10-12 days at a time. I usually sample the fare in Bangkok for a day and then I head down to Pattaya where I do most of my monkey business. "I lub you like monkey lub banana".....still haven't heard this particular line, but the girls still act this way, as long as they believe they can extract a few extra baht out of you.
I confirmed with bar, massage parlour, and hotel managers that business is slow, but of course there are still plenty of girls to provide services. I didn't really see a softening on prices, but where else can you get a bonk for 500 baht? The local police are cracking down on all things made without proper license.....videos, software, watches, etc., so vendors seem to be a little suspicious when you ask to buy such things. At the end of the day, though, money speaks louder than words and you can still find the trinkets you seek.
Before arriving in Pattaya, I had been in communication with Freeler, an (in)famous personality on this Board. We met in Pattaya and got along very well. Maybe he feels differently? We spent almost a week hanging out with two other blokes....one from Tokyo and another from South Africa. For those of you who have the opportunity to get to know Freeler in person, I would suggest you do so. Not only is he very knowledgeable about all things Thai, but he's got the personality of someone with whom you wouldn't mind being a friend. One thing struck me about him.....he's VERY direct about his thoughts/feelings, but at least you know where you stand with him. Freeler doesn't seem to have time for bullshit, and I appreciate that. Though I'm a relative rookie compared to Mr. Freeler, I told him a story that literally made him blush! I guess that means I'm probably having a pretty good time while I'm in Thailand. I'm looking forward to seeing him again. In fact we talked about another trip in December/January. Maybe some of you would like to also meet for a beer or two.
Well, that's it from here. Now it's back to doing the thing that allows me to pass out purple notes.
marcostraight,
With reference to the card skimming, you didn't stay at Flipper Hotel did you?
I read on another forum that some guys who had their cards skimmed had stayed at Flipper.
Rgds
[QUOTE]Originally posted by muffdriver
[i]It's been some time since I've posted, but I don't usually have much to say unless I've recently been to LOS. That being said, I just returned last week, and so here goes another post.
I won't bore you with the details, as I have posted them before. If you want the details, please search under my User Name. In summary, though, I'm the type of guy who can escape from the real world for about 10-12 days at a time. I usually sample the fare in Bangkok for a day and then I head down to Pattaya where I do most of my monkey business. "I lub you like monkey lub banana" still haven't heard this particular line, but the girls still act this way, as long as they believe they can extract a few extra baht out of you.
I confirmed with bar, massage parlour, and hotel managers that business is slow, but of course there are still plenty of girls to provide services. I didn't really see a softening on prices, but where else can you get a bonk for 500 baht? The local police are cracking down on all things made without proper license, videos, software, watches, etc., so vendors seem to be a little suspicious when you ask to buy such things. At the end of the day, though, money speaks louder than words and you can still find the trinkets you seek.
Before arriving in Pattaya, I had been in communication with Freeler, an (in)famous personality on this Board. We met in Pattaya and got along very well. Maybe he feels differently? We spent almost a week hanging out with two other blokes, one from Tokyo and another from South Africa. For those of you who have the opportunity to get to know Freeler in person, I would suggest you do so. Not only is he very knowledgeable about all things Thai, but he's got the personality of someone with whom you wouldn't mind being a friend. One thing struck me about him, he's VERY direct about his thoughts / feelings, but at least you know where you stand with him. Freeler doesn't seem to have time for bullshit, and I appreciate that. Though I'm a relative rookie compared to Mr. Freeler, I told him a story that literally made him blush! I guess that means I'm probably having a pretty good time while I'm in Thailand. I'm looking forward to seeing him again. In fact we talked about another trip in December / January. Maybe some of you would like to also meet for a beer or two.
Well, that's it from here. Now it's back to doing the thing that allows me to pass out purple notes. [/i][/QUOTE]Hey, I was just in Thailand last month and I am going back next month and at the end of the year. I just cannot get enough of that place. Maybe we can meet for a beer or two. I am friends with several of the girls over there and get several emails from them weekly. So let's talk and we will see.
Hi Gus,
Do you mean that Flipper Hotel in soi 8 ?
I know it but I never been there.
I didn't use my card to pay the Hotel.
The places where I used Visa card during my last trip:
Bangkok Pattaya Hospytal - Pattaya (gonorrhea treatm.of course)
Domon Royal Garden - Pattaya
Boss and Bass Travel Shop Agency. - Pattaya
Darling Body Massage Sukhumv.Road - BKK ( Very suggested)
Hardcore Surf Shop Royal Garden - Pattaya
Warehouse Records shop Royal Garden - Pattaya
Sizzler - Pattaya
Anyway I've already forgot.
I just wish to know what the hell my card was doing in England ???
So here I'm in Pattaya, with a much better kharma I'd say. I took a mini-van with EBC (ph 0-2250-1188), corteous service and just bhat 350. The stupid travel agency reserved me the stupidiest hotel in town, beverly plaza, caters mostly to chinese families (baht 1200+300 guest charge). I'l leave it tomorrow for a room in family-operated place in Jomtien Beach, there are many, average bhat 500 and thay are girl-friendly. The room I saw (ban ruay dee) was quite spacious and had a balcony with lot of flowers, internet downstair (ok, the connection had some problems...)
Well aside the hotel delusion I'm happy anyway, rented a bike for just bhat 300/day, honda cb400 just like the one I had when a teen, not too big not too small, OK it is not quite the same nowadays it has has liquid cooling four-valvles quad-calipers brakes, but hey I have progressed too, aside grey-hair, I have now total ejaculation-control and (yeah) bigger arms.
So there I'm happy like a motherfucker having a grilled-chicken snack by the beach, in company of three nice cats, no chicks for me, not yet, I see them waving to me in the bar, but no hurry, I promised myself I won't go with anyone that (unlucky her) wears a number. I'm kind of happy with this Jomtien beach, I think I'll hang-out here a little before exploring further. If you are in Pattya until Aug. 13 and in the mood for some traveller's storytelling, drop a note here so we can meet.
<She seemed upset when I told her after about 3 hours that time was up. She got paid. But how could I give someone I liked so much just 500 baht? So I gave another 300, saying: "It's for your kid. For food." I know I am stupid. But it's still better than a broken heart.>
Above posted is just sensible, as noted by some others. I also would not say you were stupid for giving the girl a bit extra.
While I agree totally with SA that it's best not to delude yourself with working girls, it's also a fact that some give much better "service" than others. Giving them something extra for their kid, their mother or their boyfriend is just up to you.
I am as tough a bargainer as anyone when it comes to what I will pay the bar, the MP etc. However, I am perfectly willing to part with more $ than I must with someone who has pleased me.
stoly,
I think you'd really like CM. A LOT less traffic, pollution etc... and much more laid back. Personally, I can only handle BKK for under a week, then I gotta get outa there. Just too busy! If you're staying in LOS long enough, take a train up there and check it out. Oh yea, if you do take a train, don't cheap out like I did. Pay whatever it is for a sleeper car (so you can sleep), I bought the cheapest ticket possible (161B? can't quite remember sorry), and my ass was sore for 4 days after I arrived! (Hard bench seats). lol. Take care!
I'm a novice in the Thai scene, but practiced the hobby in Russia a bit. I thinking of going to Thailand for about two weeks for hobby and seeing the country as well. Can somebody give rough cost estimates for two weeks in Pattaya for varying levels of comfort; budget, mid range and top end? Sawasdee See View advertises AC rooms for 2250 baht/week and Siam Sawasdee same for 3,200 baht/week. Are these reasonable places hopefully not too far from action? From the posts here it seems it is possible to get a lady for 1000 baht for LT. Is $50/day for food+accomodation+action a reasonable estimate?
Hedonist,
One US dollar is about B40.
Rooms are from B150 to B2,500 a day.
Breakfast is from B40 to B195.
Diner is from B30-B1,500.
Most 'streetfood', sateh, pineapple is B5 or B10.
All drinks are available at 7elevens...
Coffee on the street is B10, at Starbucks...
Girls are from B300ST to B2,000LT.
Songthaews are B5-10 a ride. B10 is the MAXIMUM fare in Pattaya!
Renting a motorbike is stupid. DON'T do it!
Souvenirs, shirts, shorts can cost you an arm and a leg...
So does booze...
The trip back to the airport is B100-B1,500.
Departure tax is still B500.
You're a newbie: $80 is safer to count on.
That doesn't mean you have to spend it all!
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Freeler
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Renting a motorbike is stupid. DON'T do it!
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I don't agree. A scooter or a medium size bike will move you around conveniently and you can go sightseeing around.
Umm, a scooter for sightseeing what exactly in Pattaya? It's gotta be one of the more underwhelming places in the kingdom for sightseeing other than of the TG variety. I've personally never found renting a bike in Pattaya to be worth it, though it definitely can be in other areas.
Hedonist, I think $50/day is the lowball estimate for mongers who are reasonably experienced in the area, and Freeler's estimate is more like the mid-range. He, of course, spends less than almost everyone, so if he's telling you that your estimate is too low that's definitely saying something LOL!
If I were you I'd just budget for $100 a day and then be happy to get out for less. Especially for a newbie, there's a tendency to end up acting like a kid in a candy store when you get to Bangkok or Pattaya, and doing several short-times at 500baht a throw, deciding to make the Pump Station your substitute for late morning coffee, being in the flow of things and hemmoraging money because you drink like a fish, going through the almost inevitable process of getting charmed and scammed for double what you planned to pay by a cutie, etc., all can break your carefully designed budget and leave you needing to cut back to get to the end of your trip. It's truly not that difficult to run through 4000baht quickly, expecially if you're someone who likes good restaraunts and hangs out at go-go bars.
Better to budget a little high in the first place, and then work to put into practice the excellent advice you'll find in this section and end up with extra baht for whatever excursion or shopping you decide to do -- or just for taking home and socking away to start paying for the next trip you'll suddenly find can't come soon enough...
Stoly,
Accidents, scams...
At least 30 times I've been to Pattaya, and even on the shortest one day visit I see dumbfucks get accidents, fines and scammed out of their money.
And, like Joe_zop made clear, there is NO sightseeing in Pattaya.
Take the B5 songthaew or walk!
Renting a motorbike is stupid. DON'T do it!
Thanks guys! As I told before I have a bit of mongering experience in Russia. I don't know if you agree with me but I find Russian women very attractive. I have been looking at some website giving advice on the Thai scene and it is hard to tell the same for Thai girls. On the average they are simply not beautiful with respect to Western norms of beauty. They are short and have small breasts. But on the other hand, so many men simply can't be wrong. Why am I writing all this stuff? Because I am afraid of not being able to find ladies for my taste after traveling all the way to Thailand. Can somebody comment on this please? What is it that attracts you to Thailand? Can you find really attractive girls for the prices quoted on this board?
I agreed with Freeler and Joe Z, IMHO, being just your first time in Thailand particularly Pattaya, your don't need to have a bike.
There's nothing you can see or do locally around the action that a taxi could not do the job! Depending where you plan to stay, walking to your destination is never a problem.
I have been going and staying in Pattaya since 1995 and only in the last 2 years have I purchased a motorbike under my girlfriends name. I use it to get around town and to her house, otherwise there's no need for one!
Although, it depends on the individual, freeler is right! you can easily get into a accident, get spotted as a sucker and become a target to be robbed or scammed! Just last week I saw in the Bangkok newspaper reports of gangs in Pattaya, running off
locals and tourist on their bikes at night and robbing them!
Unless you really know your way around and need it, leave the driving to someone else and save the money for ST!
LBM
Hmm, Hedonist, if you mean Thai women don't look at all like, say, Russian women, meaning tall, leggy, buxom, with blonde hair and hourglass figures, then you're absolutely correct. But norms of beauty vary around the world, and IMHO Thais are among the most beautiful people in the world, with flawless and symmetrical features that tend more toward softness than angularity, thick and often long flowing hair, a general tendency toward slimness rather than the extra weight you see in the US and elsewhere, that everpresent smile and a love of laughter and joking that is far more genuine that you'll find most other places.
Yes, Thais usually are shorter and with small breasts (and you should generally be wary of those who are taller with bigger breasts because the odds are decent that you're dealing with a katooey) and they tend more toward the boyish or slightly pear-shaped. You can generally find TGs who either are taller or a bit more buxom, though the latter tend to be in high demand since that's the western ideal, and the issue of larger breasts seems to now be beginning to infect the kingdom, or so I gathered from various newspaper articles my last trip, whereas in the past smaller breasts were considered preferable. However, because TGs are generally more petite, the lack of breast size isn't all that tremendous a deal as they generally seem proportionate to the rest of the body.
If the Western body type is the only female package that pushes your buttons, well, LOS may not be the right place for you, honestly, and you might prefer, say, Brazil. Me, I'm thrilled with lots of different types, and Thais are high among them. (And I've got nothing whatsoever against the Western model, mind you!)
But that's not even considering the behavioral differences -- there's no question that Western men are very often and hopelessly seduced by the TG's heavy focus on and deference to the men they're with. Obviously, this varies by woman and when you're dealing with sex workers one never knows what you'll get, but I for one have certainly been gloriously spoiled by various of the Thai women with whom I've spent time. It's the very reason people tend to get so strenuous and exercised here on the subject of the dangers of Thai women -- far too many Western men lose their damn fool heads over them, which is not something one hears as much about in most other places. You don't read lots of stories about guys deciding to move to Amsterdam to live with Red Light District ladies, or to Costa Rica, etc., but you sure as heck hear it an awful lot about women guys have met in Pattaya...
And, yes, absolutely, you can find truly stunning women for the prices quoted here. (Well, maybe not for Freeler's 300baht prices, though he manages a few attractive ones for that. :)) Obviously, it's also kind of "what the market will bear" and astonishing beauties often hold out for higher prices, but everything's negotiable in LOS. If you're someone who can only stand to go with the single most ravishing lady on the block, simply up your budget a thousand baht or so a day and hone your bargaining skills...
advice for the first timer to pattaya.
truly there is no place like it on earth. in my opinion, it really can't be beat. resort style vacationing with more girls then you can count within walking distance, ready and fully willing to please your every need!
however!
on my first of now 13 trips to pattaya, i was robbed, strong armed in-fact! i looked like the lone bumbbling idiot typical tourist. it was my first trip. i was a bit stressed and had that "lost look" going on. i decided i wanted a massage for my first go. i walked to the curb.and sure enough along came a tut, tut. a rather seedy looking rough thai dude. i explained what i was looking for. i'm surew now in hind sight, he knew i was a stupid tourist. anyhow, he proceeded to tell me about the best massage house in pattya. ended up driving me about 9 miles out of town, down some dirt road. as we approached a large warehouse type building, i got this overwhelming sense, something was not right. i told him to stop. he speeded up, got on his little radio and before i knew it the large door to the warehouse was opening and out were coming about 5 thai guys! i jumped out of the moving tut tut, hit the ground hard, scrapping me knees, arms and back badly. i started running but they quickly surrounded me. two of them had knives. they took my wallet, cash card, everything, forced me to provide my pin number, (which i gave them the wrong number). my cc was maxed out. i had to hike back to the main road (about a 2 mile walk down a dirt remote road) it was hot as hell. i almost passed out. made it back to the road and waved down a passing motorist. they offered to take me to the local police station. i choose not too. about three days later i ended up seeing the same taxi driver picking up another tourist. as he was about to pull away, i yelled at him, before he could run off, i socked him right in the eye pulled him from the tut tut and basically beat the crap out of him. some locals were yelling for the police. he yelled at them in thai, not to call the police. i let him go, but he ruined two days of my vacation. all i had was my back-up cc i had left in my room safe!
if you go to pattaya, be careful with the taxi drivers and the girls too. some have jealous boyfriends and a few of the girls are committing scams, not many, but a few.
gettingtang~!
dood...u should have taken his money, kicked him in the nuts, then drive his tut tut away.
tapioca
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Tapioca
[i]dood...u should have taken his money, kicked him in the nuts, then drive his tut tut away.
tapioca [/i][/QUOTE]
Easier said then done. Amazing thing is (and I'm by no means trying to brag) I'm no wimpy dude. I stand 6'2" and have weight lifted for years. If these guys will pull of something like this on a guy like me, they will try it on anyone. Since that incident, I can say nothing of that nature has happened since and trust me it never will again. They lost my unconditional trust.
As for Pattaya, don't get me wrong, you can't beat it. Anywhere! And this is from someone who has been everywhere! I'm just trying to warn the fellow mongers not to be stupid. Some are so naive, they picture it as the unconditional LOS, and it is, ALMOST!
On one other trip, I ended up spending a night in the ER room in Pattaya, due to a very accelerated heart rate. I had been drinking and took back a free lancer. I remembered looking back, she insisted I suck on her breasts a lot. I think she laced them with something, that did not sit well with my system.
The hospital staff was great, very friendly, but trust me you don't want to have a cardiac arrest in that town. Their medical equipment and training is about what we used to have in about 1940 in the USA. It's primitive. All very old equipment and the staff is way, way under-trained!
So if you're going to indulge in Pattaya, watch you back, use common sense and don't end up in the ER.
GETTINGTANG~!
[QUOTE]Originally posted by GettingTang
[On one other trip, I ended up spending a night in the ER room in Pattaya, due to a very accelerated heart rate. I had been drinking and took back a free lancer. I remembered looking back, she insisted I suck on her breasts a lot. I think she laced them with something, that did not sit well with my system.
The hospital staff was great, very friendly, but trust me you don't want to have a cardiac arrest in that town. Their medical equipment and training is about what we used to have in about 1940 in the USA. It's primitive. All very old equipment and the staff is way, way under-trained!
So if you're going to indulge in Pattaya, watch you back, use common sense and don't end up in the ER.[/quote]GT, may I humbly suggest that if you are old enough to remember the medical equipment in US hospitals in 1940, your heart rate may have had more to do with your age than anything the free lancer had on her tits!
Thanks for all the replies! Great advice!
Hedonist, Moneymaker...
"she insisted I suck on her breasts a lot. "
Spells trouble.
Unless!
Unless you've showered together, soaped her tits up goooood and gave them a goooood rub. Also gives you the extra time to check for signs of other (monthly) problems that could mess up your night...
Getting Tang,
I hope you did way better on your later trips. Getting Tang beats losing tang!
"Their medical equipment and training is about what we used to have in about 1940 in the USA. It's primitive. All very old equipment and the staff is way, way under-trained!"
Many who know say: "Arriving at the hospital alive means staying alive". In fact, Thai medical standards are very high. Somebody dropped you off at the wrong hospital...
GettingTang,
Sorry to read about your mishap but, you know what's was the funny part of it all?,he shows up at the same place! I would've broke his fucking neck!
He's not to goddamn bright. ha ha!
Oh well, lesson learned right?
Hedonist - most of the sawasdee properties are about as close to action as you can get (er... there doesn't seem to be anywhere in P'ya that ISN'T close to SOME action. )
The only sawasdee that has a pool is on Soi Bukauw (parallel to second road but not out to thrid road) about soi 11 (might be 12) anyway, "soi" means side road, so "sai song, soi sip" means "road, second; side street 10" - SOME of the street signage is written in english and Thai, - all 46 characters of it - and I though Cyrillic was difficult. - at least the NUMBERS are understandable (but Thai actually has a different character numbering system, too)
IF you stay in one of the lower priced places, you need to watch that they stay open for you to come back LATE (like about sunrise) - where I stayed I knew where my room key was so it didn't matter. If you want a relatively nice inexpensive room, go to "Ice Inn" on 2nd road at soi 11 (might be 12). Just be prepared to walk stairs. Otherwise, the sawasdee on soi 10 (a dirt side street) is cheaper but depending on the mud level, might be "messy" to walk to/from. There is a 7-11 and "family mart" right on second road. There are some good beer bars in the area on soi Bukauw as well and on second, there are numerous beer bars (like I posted before, so much poon, so little time)
freeler, joe_zop: your advice about not renting a motorbike certainly makes sense but you're ignoring a couple of facts.
first, like many others i like to have unconditional personal freedom of movement. that means, if i got bored in a place i can jump on the bike and go looking for something else, or just cruise the beach at the speed *i* decide. maybe there isn't really a better 'something else', but i like the feeling that i can go looking for it on my own at any time. second, i've choosen to stay in jomtien beach because it's less crowded, kind of more human if you want, as the exaggerated brothel-like athmosphere of pattaya bothers me a little bit. a bike is really needed in that case unless you like to be sitting among sweaty people behind a smoggy bus all way between pattaya and jomtien. in conclusion, don't call 'stupid' something just because your rationality is adverse to it.
joe_zop: your latest post on thay women describes their beauty quite accurately but again i feel the need to add something for the ones that had never been here, like hedonist: pretty girls/women are very, very rare. i've been roaming around this place and bangkok since a week now, including beer bars, go-go's, shopping malls, and saw just four or five really attracting beauties, and all of them except one had already a western partner. the one that had not one, did not replied t my salutation. if i make a statement, like you wouldn't do 98% of the girls not even for free, i think i'm not very far away to be kind of objective, no matter what your standards are. it's always a good practice to keep your expectations low before you go to see something but i really think is needed when it comes to tg's physical appearnace.
about the attitude of tg's and their ability to make a man happy longer than short time, i cannot say that i have much experience having meet less than ten of them in total. but again, i'm not very impressed fropm what i've experienced. i do not want to generalize or stereotype but they're too quiet, condiscendent and superficial. i think this the reason why they make a better companion for the mature fellow in search of tranquil days rather than for whoever (young or old) that likes bolder personalities.
joe_zop you're right, nobody in his right mind would move to amsterdam just to be close to one or all the working ladies there, but i'd bet the same isn't true for costa rica as you say, and i want to extend the concept to the whole latin america. if you like me, like to go out to latin dance almost every night, love beatiful asses that are often shaken just because they're proud of them, as opposed to mere exibhition on a club podium, if you like to visit a country where you can at least _try_ to learn the language in a reasonable time, where the girls aren't for sure more sincere than anywhere else but at least more straightforward and fun, don't come to thailand or better don't come asia at all, head for south america insted. argentina works excpetionally well for me, but you may like better a different flavor from the latin universe.
all in all, i don't regret my trip to thailand but i won't repeat it. sure, girls were willing to please and the last one in particular did something to me worth to be in a porno flick, but that's not enough to drive me crazy, and i was bored most of the time. i was thinking of quitting this hobby anyway, maybe this is the best way to put a closure on it and move on with other things in life. what about long-term, world-wide sailing with a stable partner or few friends? i'm sure many tropical destinations have interesting places to see at night too... oops here i go again :)
Stoly, points taken on the bike -- if you're outside of the hotzone and want to toodle around, fine. But riding a bike because you like the wind in your face or because you like control of how fast you cruise is rather different from actually needing to have one. I wouldn't go so far as to call renting one in Pattaya stupid, but it's certainly not anything close to necessary.
As far as women go, hmm, there's a degree of "glass half empty/half full" here. Obviously everyone has different standards. I've personally never been one of the "wouldn't sleep with 98% of them" kind of guys no matter what country or standard of beauty we're talking about, and I'd say I probably find at least 25% of women anywhere I go at least moderately attractive. Sure, like anywhere else, there are only so many supermodels wandering around, but my take is that there are certainly plenty of attractive women no matter where you happen to be, Thailand or elsewhere. You say potato, I say potahto. Sure, Thailand's only got so many breathtaking beauties, but that's true anywhere and if you're the type who only considers absolute stunners, well, you're going to have fewer choices by definition. But only a few "pretty" TGs? The general scale is that "pretty" ranks below "beautiful" which is below "stunning" so I've really gotta disagree with you here. If your standards of beauty are different from the standard of the country you're in you're either going to be adjust those standards or be disappointed -- which was my point to Hedonist about the distinction from western norms of beauty.
I'd agree with you that many TGs, particularly those you meet in places like Pattaya, can be quiet, rather submissive, and basically boring. Face it, for many their lives are watching TV, shopping, and then heading to the bar (presuming they're not actually living at the bar, which a fair number are) and possibly hitting a disco later. We're not talking about women who generally have much of a life outside of hooking up with farangs and making money, or who have much education since most come into this trade in their teens, straight off farms. You ain't gonna have great discussions on economics or world politics, or find too many TGs who think that hang-gliding is something they've got to do, because they're not going to have any experience in it. That said, there are definite exceptions, and if you're hooking up with someone for more than, say, a night, you're probably going to be looking for one of those. I've hooked up longer term with less than one in ten of the TGs I've been with, but when it works, it can work quite well, and that submissive aspect can turn into a heavy and intoxicating focus on your wants and needs. (Without going too much into it, let me also say that the submissive trait is highly misleading, as it's very often not real.)
Hey, I think South America and the women there are great, I certainly know that some people move there because of that, I'm always thrilled by my visits, and you're not going to see me kicking Latinas out of my bed by [i]any[/i] stretch of the imagination. Certainly, picking up Spanish or Portuguese is easier for most folks than learning Thai, since those languages have more in common with English. I'm not championing Thailand as the single best place on earth or anything, though it's one of my favorites for a variety of reasons, at the expense of other places. I'm not even going to champion TGs as the best fucks in the world -- a high number are shy, hung up, unwilling to experiment, etc. and like sex workers anywhere there are also some who just want you to get off quickly, pay, and get lost -- though there are also glorious individual exceptions to all of this.
But don't misunderstand my point, which was that you generally don't see the same level or number of people suddenly ditching their entire existing lives to move halfway around the world as you seem to do in Thailand. It simply happens all the time, you see an incredible number of expats in the country, and generally the reason is because these fools hook up with a TG who makes them feel like an absolute king and who promises to continue to do so (for only the price of said farang supporting the entire village and everyone who can vaguely be identified as a cousin.) Heck, it's one of the reasons there has been immense debate in this section over how to deal with Thai women, and plenty of people advocating a strict adherence to find-fuck-forget as the only way not to get sucked in.
My point was simply that because this happens all the time, something's clearly at work here, and it's not the business climate, it's western men reacting to/connecting with Thai women. I'm sorry you didn't get that level of connection (or maybe I should be happy for you, if you're the type who can lose their head :)) but lots of folks have -- and not all, to be clear, have messed up their lives over it. So that's something that's on the menu of possibilities for a visit, for better or worse, and Hedonist can look forward to that possibility with anticipation or dread as he chooses.
Stoly,
"I like to have unconditional personal freedom of movement."
So do I!
And in order to keep my freedom of movement, I like to stay out of the monkeyhouse and out of hospital.
No motorbike in Pattaya!
So your trip didn't work out for you. A shame.
But you ran away from BKK before seeing the GreatSights: Wat Arun, Wat Phrae Keaw, a boattrip on the river. An evening trip on the skytrain is nice too. Did you eat at a garden restaurant?
You ran away to Jomtiem, which has nothing, while Pattaya is a good choice for a first timer, like I said many times on these pages.
Saying that Pattaya is busy is untrue, perhaps even a lie. I left there last Thursday and never saw it so quiet.
If you want to leave 'the hobby' and the practices associated with it, come to Thailand and enjoy.
Enjoy the food, the wonderful Khmer ruins, the NationalParks, the people, the countryside, the Andaman Sea islands, the Ranong hot water springs.
And I almost forgot the sights that BKK has to offer...
I always went back to countries 'I didn't like at first' so I could check: Is it the country or is it me?
Hedonist,
Recognize you from the Moscow board where I post occassionally as well. Hope you don't mind me dropping my 2 cents here...:)
There is a parallel between Moscow and Thailand...
You won't know what it is really like to be there until you've been there yourself. And you'll never forget it once you have. And of course there is a lot of p4p pussy available.
Thai girls can be very cute.... but their beauty is completely different than a Russian girls. It is also silly to compare Brazilian women with Russian or Thai or African or Swedish or whatever. Thai bodies are obviously different than other races...if you like petite girls with tight juicy pussies and cute faces then you'll do great in Thailand. The big difference in my opinion is culturally. It is almost impossible to have anything but a very basic conversation with these girls. Beyond the language barrier... and it is very significant... there is the cultural one. Most of these girls can't even fathom the idea of what someplace else is like. Nor will they really understand you emotionally. For any type of GF relationship I greatly prefer Russian girls.... picking up "normal" Thai girls is nearly impossible IMHO and not worth the effort anyway for the short time visitor... you should be out pursuing as much cheap tight pussy as possible.
I will also visit Thailand again soon... I haven't been there in a couple of years.... Yet the sights and sounds of milling around beer bars in Pattaya, being surrounded by dozens of available girls to choose from while sipping Singha beer and playing Connect4 or watching an elephant stop traffic on Sukhumvit in Bangkok while sitting in the back of an idling tuk tuk have never left my memory. Nor have the girls I fucked there....I remember them in detail. I really see the appeal Thailand has for guys... old and young. There is appeal for every guy. And there are lots of touristy things to do as well. If you get a chance, go for it. You won't regret it. And you certainly won't forget it.
Doctor Skank:
Thanks a lot for sharing your thoughts on Thailand. It seems that it is worth going there on its own right.
All, I really enjoy this discussion with you guys.. it's also helping me summarize and freeze the feelings about my trip now that i'm back home.
random points:
freeler your question 'country or me' and, going back for better understanding is certainly the way to do... Hey I still have that many places to see yet, things to do ...
One thing that certainly didn't help me better enjoy my trip was that I was alone in thailand, after that I know that I don't like long trips alone ... not as much as before... let's not digress anyway :)
I think both of you have well described the physical and emotional aspects of TG's... and not only thai...it fits well to worldwide paid4sex girls ... we're headed toward the globalization also on that ? LOL... And yes to be fair please go over my post and replace 'pretty' with ... hot or sexy ... the Scale is the Scale .. right on the spot also about the joy and perils of getting in a LT relationship abroad ... believe me i know!
I was also amazad by the number of expats here, they clearly made a cool choice.. but me... my heart is in BsAs, gotta be honest on that... joe_zop, I'm guilty of not having done much of what you said ... but blow by blow: I love strolling and shop old stuff in Santelmo, chew down a gigantic steak in a Recoleta parrilla, patronize hip & shady clubs anywhere in Capital Federal, and of course hang out with the host of the board and the latest bunch of fellow travellers..
Respect to everyone and freedom for all !
Stoly - I also enjoy BA a lot. However, there are some things that are easier to come by in BKK. And overall, costs will be lower in BKK. I'm going for a month, and have enough for BKK, but not near enough for the same action and fun in BA.
I love the steak in BA, but I'm looking forward to a month of great Thai food. I doubt I'll eat any fried silkworms or crickets, though.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by stoly
[i]All, I really enjoy this discussion with you guys.. it's also helping me summarize and freeze the feelings about my trip now that i'm back home.
random points:
freeler your question 'country or me' and, going back for better understanding is certainly the way to do... Hey I still have that many places to see yet, things to do ...
One thing that certainly didn't help me better enjoy my trip was that I was alone in thailand, after that I know that I don't like long trips alone ... not as much as before... let's not digress anyway :) [/i][/QUOTE]
Stoly,
Although I disagree somewhat with your assessment and opinion, I can certainly respect it. True when mongering, we have different tastes. I find Thai Women, to offer the absolute most when it comes to pay$sex services. Nothing, in my opinion comes close. I have traveled to Russia, Amsterdam, Brazil, Costa Rica, All over Mexico, Philippines, Japan, USA, Australia, China, Vietnam, Cambodia, Germany, and the list goes on and on. I'm independent wealthy and no longer have to grind out a day to day living. I have taken up the full time hobby in engaging, very seriously in mongering. I enjoy meeting as many women as possible, either for GFE, or just paying for their services. Having been to all the places above and many others in search of sex. I can honestly say, Thailand beats them all! By far! It really has little to do with the $. These girls are cheaper then just about anywhere else in the world, but offer so much more you don't get anywhere else either! About 75% of these girls will openly provide a GFE. You basically have to "let them know" you don't want a GFE, or that's what you're going to get. They are affectionate creatures by nature! Western Women need that affection giving to be earned. With Thai women it comes naturally and quickly!
I would have to say Japanese women fall a close second, but not close to what you find in Thailand. Now all this comes from a guy who prefers and is sexually drawn to the typical blonde hair blue eyed American girl next door. Yet somehow, the Thai way makes me overcome this sexual preference I have for blondes. They are that good!
As for travel to Thailand alone, I completely agree with you assessment on that. It can be rough spending two weeks on the other side of the world alone. However, through the years of my travels to LOS i have been able to make many life long investments, in many deeply seeded relationships! I have many girlfriends that are now married and have children who will still come by for dinner or to chat when I'm in town! This is to me what life is all about. I have made many deep relationships, not all just sexual from my trips to LOS.
I feel if you tried this approach, rather then just banging it out with as many women as possible, you would find your trips much more rewarding. Now don't get me wrong, I bang it out with as many girls as my gonads will allow me, on each and every trip, but also enjoy the many different girls I have made friends with and their company in-between my go arounds!
You can make this sort of connection also, by hitting the many Thai dating websites. Strike up a relationship, set up many dates and make a few lasting relationships on your next trip. trust me, you will be eager to return once you leave!
GETTINGTANG~!
For Hedonist
I'm not the most experienced monger around but in my experience Thai ladies will offer you the best, and believe me you will want more. I am of the same opinion as you that thai ladies are not the most beautifull around, and sometimes I spent all night finding a real cutie, but they are out there you just have to be patient. Trawl the bars and go go`s till you find someone that fits your needs. Don't get involved with the first girl that takes an interest in you. One other tip: if you see that girl don't hang around. I had been drinking in one bar and there was a real lovely in there very small but nicely dressed, almost western and a beautifull face with nicely done make up, but because I was surrounded by 3 mingers chatting to me she did not think I was interested when I got to chat to her. She had already been bar fined, I was gutted. She said I can see you tomorrow but this was my last night.
I found one girl who looked like Halle Berry and had lovely body. I would have kept hold of her but England Soccer Team had a big match on, so I had to go back out, she rung me the next day and we hooked up again she asked me what she should wear, sexy or normal clothes a nice touch, and in the evening after a shower she dressed up in stockings and basque for me. We were at it all night.
What surprised me most about the Thais was how selective they were. They seemed happier to go with young fit guys. Maybe I am being naive but that was how I
found it. Please comment on this subject anyone. I stayed with one girl for five days she had the look I go for very cosmopolitan dressed nicely and there was not anything she would not do. We were doing it in toilets the hotel swimming pool, got seen by other guests in a hotel in bangkok in the corridor. She took it in every hole every style and gave superb bj, always wanting me to spunk over her face and I duly obliged. The downside of this is that although she never took money I just paid her bar fine for five days about 1500 baht, obviously her food bill drinks and believe me she could handle her drink. Days out etc, the bill adds up but it was not the money that bothered me really she became very clingy if you know what I mean. She slapped me one night for dancing with an English girl to be fair to her I was coming on to this girl as she was tasty on her honeymoon and boyfriend was ill.
No luck there but she insisted on coming to Bangkok with me and then to the airport. Also in a massage parlour in Bangkok I found a real stunner. She asked to come to Pattaya with me but I thought it would be to expensive as I had payed 2000 baht for 2 hrs, the most I paid on the trip. I dont know how this works perhaps one of the more experienced members could help. I would like to know myself go there and have a great time. I'm sure you will.
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PATTAYA BOUND
What girls anywhere in the world would not prefer to go with younger more fit guys? They are sexual beings just like us and looks do count. sorry to all the middle aged overweight mongers, but the truth is the truth!
that aside, not to worry. That is the beauty of the Thai ladies, they can make us all feel special, old, middle aged, young, fat, short, skinny, tall, ugly, you name it, when you buy them, you can count on being special for the time you are with them!
I have probably dated 600-800 different Thai ladies over the years and I would venture to guess about 60-70% truly enjoy the sex, not just the money. Another unique quality these girls have!
GettingTang,
Hey, you should change your handle, ThaiWiltChamberlin and write a book of your experiences
LBM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by GettingTang
[i]I find Thai Women, to offer the absolute most when it comes to pay$sex services. Nothing, in my opinion comes close.[/i][/QUOTE]I agree with you. The attitude of these girls is beyond imagination.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by GettingTang
[i]You can make this sort of connection also, by hitting the many Thai dating websites. Strike up a relationship, set up many dates and make a few lasting relationships on your next trip. trust me, you will be eager to return once you leave!
[/i][/QUOTE]May I have address / url of dating site. I found mostly girls interesting in marrige to a farang.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Pattaya Bound
[i]What surprised me most about the Thais was how selective they were. They seemed happier to go with young fit guys. Maybe I am being naive but that was how I[/i][/QUOTE]I do not agree to this. Most of girls in Pattaya is looking for older people who need maid instead of bedmate. Beacuse they don't need to work hard in the bed. Manytime I was just avoided by girls (Iam 32 with single body) being scared of having big gun.
Khun
Hi all,
I have a simply question. I am going to Thailand in October. Can anyone give a status report over Pattaya. The nightlife, girls etc.. Is it crowed ? Are there any restrictions ? In general, how is the business. I was there in April and it is a long time ago.
Thanks in advance
Sting
Dear Getting Tang
I seen your post about being a younger man that the ladies would want more than an older man like my self, yes you could be true about what you said. Mr Tang you will soon be in my shoe and other like me, yes i take theV pill but you don,t need it yet.
Enjoy your self at your age,,,,remember shit happing,,one day you will be like us older farts, looking at our past thinking what happing to the years.
My advice to you is fuck them hard and fast, be the fucker and not the fuckee......enjoy your self thill mother nature take it from you...........
My intentions was not to stir up the pot here, but sorry to say I guess I'm going to have too regarding this issue.
I do agree that their modo is basically money, f*ck em and leave em, true, the money is the single common denominator behind what they do. However, if they are going to do what they do, many of the girls on occasion will enjoy themselves. Maybe some of you older mongers have not been at this game in your younger years. I have and I am. I'm 31 now, been at this game since I was 19! I can generally (I used the term generally, not always mind you) can tell when a girl is into me for real. Now I'm not talking about being love struck, I'm talking about sexually! I have developed a sense for being able to recognize this factor as many of you may have. Now this tells me if you guys are saying that none of these girls are truly into you sexually and most just act this way, then there must be a reason for it. Sorry, but it must have to do with your appearance and age. I tell it like it is. Now true, I get a lot of dates, trust me, where I know the girl is acting or just wants to get it over with, but I also get a lot where she is very pleased, for real, to be having sex with me. On occasion many will make reference to my appearance and age and even say its a nice change over the regular fat middle aged or older guy. Again no offense but you folks are pushing this issue.
If you were a male prostitute, which would you prefer? A fat smelly bad breath women, or a young fit attractive one as a client. Even if it were just about the money, which would you prefer to have doing you? Even a girl who cuts hair has got to prefer a nice looking client over an ugly one, or the lady who works at the bank. It's life people! Think about it!
By your statements on this board, you are even further proving my theory. By stating that it's only about the money and nothing else and we all just the same to them, then this would leave me with the conclusion, that based on your age and looks, you don't get the same service I often get! Because, mongers, I get some outstanding service from time to time and that includes here in the states. I stand 6'2" been body building since I was 16, got a full head of very thick hair, dark blue eyes, a big shlong, and yes a 6 pack abs. Many girls will go nuts when I take off my clothes! Especially American hookers. They tell me time and time again, they should be paying me! If they are the least bit into the sex I make sure the cum! For real! It's a fetish of mine making them cum, not just me. Now I realize the Thai girls are more shy, often they are intimidated by me, but not always. The shy ones take some extra time and work, but I almost always get my way. That being for girls working or not, who gets into the sex, for real! ACCEPT IT!
Remember, you created this argument, not me!
PS. I'm well aware that I will someday be an old monger like the rest of you. Trust me, it's coming, this i know, but I plan to burn through a whole lot of sperm between now and then! I think for many of you, you only regret not entering this game at a younger age. There is a difference!
GETTINGTANG~!
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Samus Aran
[i]Gettingtang:
Your assumptions are false. These hos are in it only for the $$$. And your hardbody at 1000 baht for a st is nothing compared to some old timer who is willing to pay 5000 baht. This isnt the USA where looks are important. This is Thailand where the only name of the game is $$$. Stop making stupid comments and believeing that Thai hookers actually like being with your young body. They act nice for all of us but in reallity dont give a damn! Fuck and stop thinking about what a Thai/Pattay ho thinks... Find, fuck, and forget them all.
Samus Aran
Acatman: Good reply to that moronic comment. [/i][/QUOTE]
Salutations GettingTang,
"I think for many of you, you only regret not entering this game at a younger age."
I'm glad that at least ONE person on this entire forum, GettingTang aka Superman aka the man who knows our age aka the man who knows when we started mongering, has his shit together.
Djzesus!
GettingTang,
All that you say is probably true and no doubt nice to know (for you) but I have a simple motto that trumps that for me. As long as I cum I don't give a shit (about anything or anyone else). Hehehehehe!!!
Getting Tang
Even after all your arguments I do not agree to the point that Pattaya Girls like younger guys over older farts.
Tell me if you go for a job which is labourous & another with a easy owner, which you will prefer if you are paid equally. Don't think sex is entertainment for these girls. The gatekeeper of a movie hall gets sick of movies.
Sometime try to tell the girl you don't have money & ask to come along.
If you are young & attractive as you describe yourself, you can get university students, may be even free (although you have to spend more indirect expenses). You can have more GF even in Thailand.
But in Pattaya, in bars or MPs, it is money.
When I go & sit in a bar, many time the girls come & tell me I am a sexy man. She is in love with me already. But I know the truth. I am not a sexy man. As soon as I tell her, I have no money, the sexy man & love both gets run away.
Howver if you think you are a sexy man & girls like you. OK be happy.
BTW I am also just 34, not so old fart.
Right on Khun ! Most all girls in the wolrd are into it for the money. If they had their choice of an old fat guy that will pay them 2000 Bhat a night or a young stud for 1000 they will almost always go for the money. Besides the old guy is not going to s***w them to death all night long because he will want to sleep after the deed is done. Now mind you if both are paying the same then thats a no brainer.
Thats why us old guys seem to pay more because thats the only way to level the playing field. AGREE ?
Ok, GettingTang, now you're coming off as an egotistical fool, and I'm sure that's neither true nor your intent. Let's just look at the flip side of your argument. You say that if those of us who are older are not be getting the same quality of experience that you are, where the girl is really into it, that the obvious reason must be our age and looks. So what explanation do you have for the many of us who get into situations where the TG [i]is[/i] really into us sexually? Is that also due to our age and looks? By your logic, that would be the explanation -- she must be into father fugures, or large guys or whatever. Presuming that all of us can tell when a TG is simply acting that way to get more $$$ from us, (which is a very large and arguable presumption) there's still a fine line between being told what you want to hear and what may be true. Let's see -- what would you, as a young guy who's into his body, want to hear? Hmmmm.
Should I be believing the TG who really and truly gets into fucking with me when she says she's really grateful to be with someone like me because most younger men are in a hurry, are more full of themselves and think they're a prize, aren't as good as lovers, can't last as long, etc. -- all of which I've been told by such TGs at various times? Should I be listening to every woman who tells me how big and beautiful my cock is who then really gets into the sex? Please! I've also had TGs say they ought to be paying me, based on what we do in bed as opposed to -- I presume -- my age and/or looks. Should I be looking into a career change based on all that? In my case, of course, it's probably all true, :D but that's hardly grounds for indicting all you young pups when the bottom line is that this is information coming from someone who has a stake in making/keeping me happy. What would I, who am somewhat older, prefer to hear? Hmmmm.
I'm perfectly willing to concede the idea that some TGs will prefer to go with younger guys -- it only makes sense that there are those who generally prefer boffing someone their own age -- but your blanket statement, not taking into account that there are also TGs for whom the exact opposite may be true, or that you may be just another deluded trick who's being told what he wants to hear, is simply specious. Age is simply not the same factor in Thailand as it is in many other areas, and that has far more to do with the culture in general than it does the monger scene.
These girls are profesionals at what they do. They will treat you nice because is their job to make you feel like a king.
It is easy to confuse their sweetness with reality. If they are with a younger guy they will tell him thats what they prefer. If with an older man they will tell him thats what they prefer. In GT case they will probably say they like bodybuilders.
When I was younger I believed them when they told me how good I was in bed. What monger hasn't been told that. Now I realize it is part of their job to make me feel good.
Wether we are young or old, well build or fat, all we are is their cash cows.
We like to believe the basic rule of this hobby are the 3 F's. In reality it is find, fuck, "PAY", and forget.
jodomas
Samus Orang-a-tang:
Raz has noticed that you are much in third person speaking. This is like speaking to one's self, which is a sure recipe for the disaster known as Multiple Personality Disorder.
Also, in your post you opened with a statement of denial regarding your alleged reference between women and used condoms, and then you concluded you post with a comparison between women and used condoms. I think that you have potential for a career in politics.
However, according to your other posts, this approach is working for you. More power to you, you Mo-Fo!!
Raz
Question for Samus Aran:
"Samus Aran" is a female bounty hunter/warrior in a computer game. Is there where you got your name?
Just curious.
LJ
In the beginning I used to be annoyed by hookers trying to grab me and to pull in to their bars anywhere I walked on Pattaya's main strips.
I have tried different approaches but none had worked as well as this one.
This is a 'magic sentence' and the moment it is said they are all gone in a flash.
I am quite amazed too how well it works 'always'.
And it is:
"Have no money!"
This is all it takes and they are gone, I can continue the muster.
Mistapenus,
No doubt you are right, but...
By saying you 'have no money' you place your self on the bottom of the heap.
And if you decide to sit with a girl you like she probably already knows about your financial state, because gossip is Thailand's strongest power!
"No Money No love"
may be some people think they are young, smart, hansum or whatever !!!
not only in Pattaya,
in all part of world and life
"No Money No love"
I am looking for a girl with face like this (see the photo) in Pattaya. Can anybody help me?
[QUOTE]Originally posted by khun
[i]I am looking for a girl with face like this (see the photo) in Pattaya. Can anybody help me? [/i][/QUOTE]Hi Khun,
Sorry it is my girlfriend. Where have you seen her?
However, there are many for us.
Take it easy :-)
It would seem that I have created quite a squabble, and I will add my bit.
Firstly, everybody will have different experiences, and I can only comment on my own, as I said before the only money I paid to my girl was her 300 baht per night bar fine as she is affilliated to this bar. I presume that this is unavoidable. The food and travel expenses when the time to leave Pattaya for Bangkok came as I was on a tour, she asked well pleaded to come with me all the last day. Once again I told her that I had no money yet she did not want money. I must admit I found this very strange as I, like most people, would assume it is purely a financial arrangement.
I have to go to work now. I offer emergency services you see but will continue with this post when I can.
p.s. Can anyone help with info on taking girls from massage parlours? Cost, etc.
Thanks
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Khun, Freeler
"You maybe think you are young, handsome" - Yes, in fact I do, and it might seem annoying to some older and ugly guys, but its quit possible to get bargirls and freelancers to go with you for free. Not trying to boast, but the "no money no love" thing ain't necessarily always true. Ive gotten quite a few free-bees in my days. I've had girls tell me that money isn't necessarily the most important thing to them - rather finding a nice guy that will take them to america or europe..
Iiahnrt.
"Most all girls in the wolrd are into it for the money. If they had their choice of an old fat guy that will pay them 2000 Bhat a night or a young stud for 1000 they will almost always go for the money. "
Some girls would definately choose a nice looking guy who would give them a 1000 *or less!* rather than going with a fat, bald, disgusting old slob!
Although SOME would go for the money if the money was enough. But I don't think its very easy to make a generalisation that girls would always go for the extra thousand.
ManOnTheRun,
All I did was try to warn Mistapenus and all for that thing called 'Gossip in Thailand'. Because it is a stronger power than most can imagine.
Freebies? I had some in Thailand, but - believe it or not - I'd rather pay and walk away than risk having a girl saying she's mine and I am hers.
Gossip, remember?
Khun's remark on 'more indirect expenses' for freebies is right on the money.
I never pay more than B500. I guess that automaticly makes me young&handsome:D!
It's been a few years since I've been to Pattaya. After my last trip, I heard there was a crackdown, and that the blowjob bars and short time bars/rooms were shut down. Has the scene been diminished, or is everything open like before?
So what does she want from me you might ask, I dont know marriage was never mentioned, financial rewards not with me, could she be enjoying herself, who really knows. I am always polite and treat the girls nicely perhaps not everyone does. Ultimately poverty and standard of living is the driving force behind this market in my opinion, and the hope of a better life, what one person finds could be totally different to another. You cannot make a single sweeping statement about everyone it depends purely on the 2 people involved. Having spoken to some girls some do treasure money, some the body looks of a man, almost like a trophy one girl told me the other girls were jealous because of her young sexy aussie boyfriend. No doubt some are looking for marriage to western men.
The reason I brought this topic up was due to some Americans on my tour were very overweight, and on occassions they stuggled to pick up girls which shocked me a little. I presumed that money talked, end of story, not so in my experience some Thai girls casn be choosy about who they go with.
Changing the subject I will be going to Thailand again next year with a couple of friends in February so any new info is always welcome.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Pattaya Bound
[i]...The reason I brought this topic up was due to some Americans on my tour were very overweight, and on occassions they stuggled to pick up girls which shocked me a little. I presumed that money talked, end of story, not so in my experience some Thai girls casn be choosy about who they go with....
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Pattaya Bound,
Thais girls in general don't look upon being large as a negative, in fact from their way of thinking the person who is overweight is of interest. It is really very simply they see the size and think this person must have money because he can afford to eat a lot. Lot at one of the images that they worship most Buddha, who is a fat little man in western eyes but seen as heathy, prosperities, and wise. The eyes of the Thais look upon things differently than the western eyes.
Sexreview
there's no question that not every tg is going to go with absolutely any farang who asks her, but there's certainly no shortage of willing ones for anyone who's there -- large or small, old or young. read back through this and the bangkok sections about jaimito cartero's worries about being "chang-sized" and then his subsequent accounts of his experiences -- he's obviously not had a terrible time based on his size, considering he's gone from being a first-timer to complete convert very quickly. i've had conversations with tgs who say they don't want to go with really old guys -- but mostly they're talking about guys in their seventies, and right next to them are tgs who are perfectly willing, as they say, well, it's not really that much work. i can count on one hand the number of times i've been turned down in los where there weren't clear circumstances (a steady boyfriend, already barfined, on the rag, etc.) but even so -- it's not like i went begging any of those times either, as there were readily available alternatives.
personally, i don't see how managing to get a woman who makes her living as a sex worker to go with you for free or paying x as opposed to y is really that much of a thing. if you're paying in the general market range, then you're getting what you want and she's getting what she wants -- pretty much the right equation, in my book. the going rate in los is simply not that much money in any event. i see utterly no victory in getting it for free from a sex worker -- to me that's all about ego, and simply means she's going to have to spend more time with some other farangs so she can generate her income. if it's someone i'm having a good time with, why should i want to add that issue to the equation as opposed to just paying a fair rate and having her full attention? i'd rather be saying, look, i'm going to be fair with you, and in return i expect your attentions, and that's an equation -- short or long term -- that's always worked well for me.
money [i]does[/i] talk, but there are other things making noise as well. naturally, tgs are also going to want to feel safe, feel they're going to be going off to someplace with someone who's jai dee, potentially a return customer, etc. if a tg thinks you're a young guy who might take her away to wherever, well, naturally that's going to come into the equation, as there aren't too many working girls who don't dream on some level of getting the brass ring. but the brass ring still [i]is[/i] to be taken care of, so whether she's hitting you up for money now or expecting you to support her family forever is rather an issue of degree. personally, i'd rather just pay my 1000baht and not worry about the water buffalo, the mother who needs an operation, the sick kid, and the cousin who's been in a terrible accident.
at any rate, this whole discussion belongs in the "thai women" section -- pazuzu, the scene is still the scene, and there is no shortage of short-time or blowjob bars. the crackdown of a couple years ago was mostly about getting bars to shut down on time, stop employing **** workers, make a token effort on drugs, and to tone it down a little bit. the current one seems to be mostly more of the same. it sure as heck didn't make anything disappear, other than a few farang owners.
I haven't been to Pattaya since March or April, but plan to go back in a month or so. The whole Apec crackdown has me worried, not because I think it will affect the bars much, but because my favorite aspect of Pattaya are the Beach Road freelancers. Are they still going strong? Or if not, any suggestions of any bars/streets where one can find three-holers? I have had better luck finding that with freelancers there in the past.
Pazuzu,
About 4 years ago many bars closed in Pattaya, only to be replaced by many more!
And whether you live in $- or in €-land doesn't matter: things are cheaper now than on your last visit.
So, don't worry.
Come to Thailand and enjoy!
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Opebo
[i].. The whole Apec crackdown has me worried, not because I think it will affect the bars much, but because my favorite aspect of Pattaya are the Beach Road freelancers. Are they still going strong? [/i][/QUOTE]
Beach Road is still going strong with many great girls. If the police turn up the heat look for the Beach Road girls to move into the malls and ther stores around the area.
Let me share with you a gem from my trip so far (ten minutes ago): "Remember me? I was holding your cock in the bathroom."
Mistys A-gogo
I love this country.
Point taken, I am always willing to listen and be corrected.
I agree that squabbling over how much you pay is pretty pointless, its always next to nothing, and who cares if you are fat, thin, ugly or just a sex mad farang. I'm sure we all go there for a good holiday, not to prove anything. It was purely an observation I made, anyway let sleeping dogs lie. As I have said before I am fairly new to all this, is it true that there is a bar where you can flop your cock out whilst stood at a bar and get a bj, if so what is the name of it, and more importantly how do you know who is performing on you?
Howdy folks! I'm off to Pattaya today, for 5 days or so of fun. I'm going the semi-Skinless route by taking the bus from BKK, and staying at the Apex in Pattaya. Now I know that the Apex is NOT 200 baht a night, so it's not a real Skinless adventure.
If anyone is around there now, come by and look me up. If you see a HUGE guy, with nice new Thai made shirts that actually fit, it's probably me! I'll probably only check in here once or twice while I'm there.
jaimito_cartero@yahoo.com
PB - I think there are some places on Soi Post office if I recall correctly. I went to one place that had a communal upstairs room that could service a number of folks at once. I was the only one there though.
In BKK, Star of Light has nice bar stools with a curtained opening that girl can poke her little head (or your little head) through. I'm not that comfortable in a sitting position, so I opted for the little room they have.
I always check out the whole package before I let them touch mine. If they don't want to show and tell, I'll choose someone else. It's never been a problem so far.
Jaimito Cartero, Pattaya Bound
There is a BJ bar at the SecondRoad end of SoiPostOffice, chose the girl downstairs, take her upstairs and let her do her thing.
Personally I like to see the wide open eyes when choking time is there:), so no under the bar sucking for me.
Last quote I got, in July, was B340 for a good cleaning.
Jaimito Cartero,
You have mail!
Hey, Freeler, sorry for confusing you with Skinless (I think). It's the heat here. Yeah, that's it. :)
The last time I was here, I tried a BJ bar, but the girl jacked up the price without rubber. It's the only place in Thailand I had that happen to (well, a working girl place, anyway). I won't even get into Taxi's and such! I think they must be charging me by the pound!
I'll be in Pattya Oct 13-19. Probably stay at Dolpin lodge. This is going to be a very serious mongering adventure, next trip may not be until next March!
Bud
mongering1@yahoo.com
My cherry trip to Thailand consisted of four nights in Pattaya. I went there from Angeles City, Philippines as a side trip. Got most of my information on the FLB site. I went with a very good buddy, RW.
Ok, as soon as we got to Manila airport we were both laughing our asses off . I swear that neither of us have ever looked forward to something more since we were kids on Xmas eve. We had been to Phils many times as well as other destinations, but Thailand was the ultimate. We get in the taxi in Bangkok and head for Pattaya.
The taxi driver soon became our very good friend. He said that he is finished with work after our fare and would be happy to take us anywhere we like in Pattaya . We asked how much for this service and he said it was up to us.
We check in at the Penthouse Hotel. Then back in the taxi and told him to take us to a soapy! I had been dreaming of soapies for a few years by now. I forget the name of the place, but it is one of the big ones. I got two girls. Of course they were both very pretty. Well, I couldn’t stop laughing the entire time. Most would swear that a 12 year old boy was in the room instead of a world class monger. The soapy went just as I had expected. Bath, mat, mattress. The girls didn’t speak much English so I couldn’t explain why I was giggling so much. Overall, a good first experience. My buddy’s session did not go as well. He explained that it was mechanical?
The taxi driver was waiting for us when we finished. I made a note that we were not over charged by taking the taxi there. He parked a ways down the street. I was hungry as hell by this point. I had heard of hands free restaurants in Thailand and told the driver what I wanted. Ended up in a karaoke bar about half way between our hotel and the soapy. Not at all what I expected, but the girls did feed me. This was basically a total waste of time. I was starving and I’m a big guy . I had to order four times to get full. We probably spent two hours here. My buddy was having a good time, and since his birthday was only hours away I made sure to let him have things his way.
After the deafening karaoke bar, the driver wanted to help us find some girls for the night. Well we both knew better, but we decided to see what he had in mind. Ended up going to more fucking karaoke bars. At one point, just after midnight, he sang happy birthday to my buddy at a karaoke bar. Apparently his relations own a few. Every place we hit had the ugliest girls. Reminded me of Tijuana’s Revolution bars. Yuck. Finally I had enough and told the driver to take us back to the hotel. At this point, his cousin’s brother’s sister’s in-law(?) was in the front passenger seat. The driver seem genuinely concerned for our fun and tried to get us to go to more karaoke bars. I insisted at this point to return us to the hotel. The drive back to the hotel was a trip and a half. Nothing at all looked familiar. Seemed like we were driving in the jungle or something. My buddy and I exchanged some glances. Us in the back seat had the front seat by at least a hundred solid pounds, but… I started humming the song from the movie Deliverance.
Well, nothing eventful happened. Five minutes later we were outside our hotel again. We tipped the driver well and he gave us his card. All and all, not the worst four hours I spent. Most of you reading this know that the Penthouse Hotel is right in the middle of everything. We ended up at the bear bars on beach road. I barfined two cuties and my buddy got one. My room was one of the top rooms, Jacuzzi, two stages, swing, ect. Had a great time of course all night long. Next day my girls got our sim card for our phones. We hooked up with MalibogMark and he schooled us on the foot massages.
The rest of the trip was terrific for me. My buddy got a sinus infection our last night and was out of it for the last 24. I only had 7 more barfines and two more soapies, but they were all top quality. I found the Thai girls were just as GFE as the Phils girls, with the exception of the soapies. We did get confused as hell at some of the gogo bar’s barfine pricing structure, but we managed.
Now for the minuses as far as comparisons. My biggest ***** is the girls mostly don’t like pics taken. The language barrier is huge. My favorite girl from the whole trip almost was lost and forgotten. I barfined her from a bear bar, Billion Beer? I will say I did fall in love with her, ok, as much as I could in 15 hours. We wanted to go to the movies at the mall. She said taking the scooters would be the cheapest and fastest. Well, my driver could not understand at all what I was saying and I didn’t know the area well. I ended up at the wrong mall, TWICE! I finally went back to her bar and told mommy what happened. This took about twenty minutes. She called her cell and a few minutes later we were reunited and had the best of times for the rest of the day and night. I didn’t have a chance, or I just didn’t want to ruin it. But at 4am I told her I needed to pack and go to the airport. She told me she was 19, but cried like a two year old until I bid her good bye at the front desk. Don’t worry, I got her cell number and will make every attempt to contact her next month. Wait, some of you might think I was joking when I said I fell in love?
As can be seen, not a lot of cons in Pattaya. Now for the pros. Thailand is clean!!! Even the short time hotels from the beer bars were better than I was used to in my mongering experience. I love the food. Now for the best of the best, of course in my humble opinion. The regular massages!!! I had at least three two hour massages a day. Even had one girl come to my room the last two nights after she got off work. I was just chatting with a fellow monger buddy in Mexico about how I haven’t gotten laid since I got back from Phils two weeks ago. I just realized this today. Maybe I’m getting old (38), but I am looking forward to the massages more than anything else. And if they close the soapies… …Ok, I am not a world power, but someone will pay for this!
I want to throw one more episode in . I went to a beer bar on soi 6 or 7 maybe. Well the girls were eating outside. It was more than obvious to the girls which one caught my eye. We went inside for a drink. By this time MalibogMark had clued me into what these bars are all about. Cut to the chase, we went to the short time hotel, showered, then in the bed. We did kiss a little, but not much. I chew tobacco at times so I didn’t French kiss her up to this point. When she went down on me I let out a scream that reminded me of the movie Invasion Of The Body Snatchers, the new one. My dick burned like I had never felt in my life. I felt it to my kidneys. My first thought was that she had a razor blade in her mouth or something. I grabbed her hair to stop her. She looked scared. I forced her face to mine (no chew in my mouth now) and French kissed her. Ok, my tongue started burning. Come to find out, she ate so much spicy , and I mean SPICEY food before that the residual burnt my dick. We took a shower together and she held me like a child while I held mister happy. An hour later we had incredible sex. She was a little older, maybe 25, but she knew what she was doing.
One other memorable experience. Barfined a cutie from I think Lipstick? We went to dinner, a few bar hops, and an hour in my room making out. She gets a call on her cell. Her sister is wondering where she is. We haven’t made boom boom yet. She told me that she needed to be home in an hour or she would get beaten by her father. She told me that her parents do not know she recently took up work as a *****. I am very experienced at this sort of shit, and I will defend her that she was telling me the truth. I told her that if she has to leave before morning, NO TIP. She was in tears moments later and several phone calls, some I even spoke to her sister. She finally left without any boom boom and I didn’t return to her bar.
One more… The girl I actually took out on a decent date. It was her, my buddy , and I. We went down walking street and ate a couple surf and turfs each. I tried to take some pics, and she said she was going to tell mommy over some pussy shots. Hmmm, never heard that line before. Thai girls in general are more shy than Phils girl???
The night of my return to PI was as eventful as they come. Ended up ringing the bell at Flamingo and the daddy in charge actually didn’t let me ring it again when I tried. Fell out of a trike, pissed off my buddy, pissed off big time my PI steady, got banned from a bar that I can’t remember, barfined two girls for 5 days that I didn’t even fuck ever, and still finding out things to this day.
Overall, I love Thailand. I will be there next month, 13-19. Thinking now of staying at Flipper Lodge, unless someone has a better suggestion. This trip, I will be on a big time budget. Period. No more than $300/day! All you Vegas mongers, mongering1@yahoo.com.
Bud
Great report, mongering1, thanks! I'm right with you on the regular massages (very possibly the thing I miss most about LOS, which surprises me) and I've also had the "spicy food afterglow" bj, which is a very interesting experience.
"spicy food afterglow"
Hahaha! I was crying like a little boy! I swear the tears were flowing big time. The only other time in my life I had pain like that was when my second ex went down on me after a shot of tequilla, but that lasted only a couple minutes.
Bud
Mongering1,
Great report.
Your best observation: Thailand is clean.
I can't believe you let a girl you barfined (B1,500?) walk out the door without a massive bonk AND a load of pix!
Barfine B 1,500 theenai krub ???
I think it is just B 600 isn't it?
I took girl from Lipstick one day in afternoon for a total B 1,100 including bar fine. Went to her room nearby & bang her. Girl was good.
enjoy...
This Saturday went to Pattaya on evening walk.
Saw many arabs now a days. Few are having stunning girls with them. Not normal Pattaya girls. From where they get tall full body thai girls? any idea?
Visted Polo. Now serves are boys & the serve before are now stage artiste. Many girls & many look like kids. Now after each 1 or 2 dance item they have small show of all girls. You can ask girl to come & sit with you. Side line girls are missing. May be now you can bar fine girls like other Go Gos. Didn't check as no time.
Looks like Pattaya has survived now SARS & coming to life back.
enjoy . . . .
Sawadee khab Khun Khun,
I already added up the bf+the payment for the girl... And I was just guessing that Mongering1 spends a little more than you and I - combined!:D
Freeler,
I only paid the barfine, 600b and bought her dinner. I was thinking about another girl when this was going on. I walked her out of the hotel and went straight to the beer bar and did a repeat with my first one there. I was only there for four nights, didn't want to waste a load on one that might not be up to par. I will add this, I had fun the entire time in Pattaya. The worst part of the trip was the taxi ride back to the airport, just because we were leaving.
Bud
27 days...
mongering1,
Thanks for the great report - I was literally lol and nearly scared the poor cat to death during the spicy bj part!
I'll be heading that way in late December, and also plan to stay at the Penthouse with Jacuzzi, swings, etc. I'm also giving consideration to using the hotel's Champaign Service (limo, champaign and 2 kitten girls, 11k baht) from the Bangkok airport. Any feedback on this from anybody (is bonking allowed in the limo, avg. looks of a Kitten girl, etc.)?
Is your decision to switch to Flipper next trip merely an economic one, or do you not recommend the Penthouse for other reasons?
I think I'll stay out of the karaoke bars, regardless. :o)
MM
Atl,
As far as the champagne service, for a two hour ride, the price is not worth it. I have seen reports of the service and no one mentioned getting a big thrill on the ride.
The reason to move to the Dolphin Lodge is to at least check out other hotels. It has everything I need there. The Penthouse was great, no complaints, but the prices were about twice of other hotels.
Bud
I am a new member and this is my first report. I have looked at this site a few times and used some of the helpful information, so I thought I would contribute this report in an attempt to help others. I have just returned from a great trip to Pattaya and Koh Chang. Many words have been written about Pattaya so I will restrict my words and hints to the relatively new people like myself.
During the off season, there is no need to book accommodation before you arrive. In fact if you can get a reasonable flight deal it will be advantageous not to. However if you plan on travelling around Christmas or New Year, having some idea of availability would be recommended.
I arrived at BKK airport and got the 19:00 bus to Pattaya for 300 baht. If you can get a taxi for around 800 then a taxi is probably a better bet. The bus took over 3.5 hours which after a long flight was too long !.
Arrived in Pattaya and found a great hotel on Soi 7 – Flipper house. Negotiated a rate of 600b per night for an air-con room (even though I was checking in at nearly midnight). This hotel is in the centre of the beer bar scene down this end of beach road. Not so good if you want to be on walking street but it is only a 10b baht bus ride away. The hotel was clean with a large room with TV which was serviced every day. No charge to get a girl in and the girl must leave her ID card with the security guards (who are actually good guys if you take the time to talk to them).
I’m sure Pattaya is busier in “high” season but I found sufficient choice & variety to meet my needs. The girls explained many of the subtleties of Pattaya’s bars which I personally found more entertaining than the Gogo’s. There are girls who work for the bar and those who freelance (i.e. hang out in several bars). The freelance girls don’t do any of the bar work but don’t get any “salary” from the bar. If you meet these girls in a bar you still have to pay a bar fine but this is lower than the bar fine for the “bar girls”. The bar takes 50% and the freelancer gets 50%. In general the bar fine for a freelancer was 200b and some of the bargirls 300b (but I found this to be a bit negotiable). Catching up with a freelancer as she changed bars or making a private arrangement eliminated the bar fine.
I found that none of the girls talked money after quoting the bar fine and if you treated them to a good night out (nice meal, dancing / live music and were interested in them and respected them) you would get great sex sometimes for nothing. Often the price was “up to you”. One girl was happy to say nothing so long as I took her out the following night.
Everyone will have their favourite bars here are 3 of mine on Soi 7 (why walk far when you don’t have to):
For a no hassle fun bar with some great (stunning) freelancers passing through EM bar on the corner of Soi7 & beach road. I can personally recommend Nat & Song (two freelancers who pass through from time to time).
On Soi 7 I spent some great afternoons playing pool in the tiger tattoo bar which has a couple of cuties.
This is probably enough about Pattaya.
Just down the coast (1 day mini bus) is the Island of Koh Chang. I stayed on the beach in White Sands which now as 3 or 4 Pattaya style bars. The selection was OK, I was never left with a choice from which I didn’t like anyone and I’m sure more girls will arrive for peak season. I liked Koh Chang because I could dive and trek and be active during the day and them pick up a nice lady for my evenings entertainment !. The deal with the girls in Koh Chang is the same as Pattaya – bar fine plus “up to you” and the happiness with the “up to you” amount depended on the value and how well you treated her. As a guide I tried to treat them well and then gave them around 500b. There was one exception who deserved & got more !!.
If you visit Koh Chang I would recommend getting to the bars about 20:00 (early) to get the best selection of girls if you wait until 22:00 you will be too late. !!!
In summary – I cannot wait until next time – I will return to sample the delights (maybe even some of the same delights) of Pattaya & Koh Chang again.
To Summiteer:
Thank you for an excellent report. Sounds like you had a great time, treated the ladies with respect and had the courtesy to share it with all of us.
This forum needs more members like you and your style of reporting. You have inspired me to return to LOS ASAP.
LJ
Summiteer,
Good report. Was the rate (600 baht) you received at the Flipper House an all inclusive rate? I mean did you have to pay any additional taxes and charges? Also, did you have to stay multiple nights to get that rate and with that rate was a "free" breakfast included? Finally, how would you rate the quality of the accomodations on a scale of 1 to 10?
Summiteer:
Good report.
I have stayed at the Flipper and it is good value, security guards very friendly.
Only problem is after you take a girl from the beer bars around the hotel they don't like to see you bringing a different girl. The only time I have seen these girls get a bit aggressive is when they see you butterfly.
jodomas
agl
I will be in LOS (Pattaya) from 9/20 - 10/05.
Just let me know how to contact you so we can agree on were and when we should meet.
See ya soon
To Thumbs Up & Jodomas
Firstly the Hotel questions. I stayed 7 nights and breakfast wasn't included but there were no hidden extras. It did take a bit of chatting up the receptionist who had to ask the duty manager I have could have the cheaper rate, but they knew many of the hotels around were only half full - Hooray for free market economics!
Jodomas - I agree with your comments about annoying the bars girls near by. There is some saying about not S***ting on you doorstep I this applies. On "butterfly" nights - I was honest with the girl and she agreed to join me in the hotel lobby so I didn't have to walk past the bars provoking "old friends" !! It worked a treat - "Old Friends" would still talk to be and have a drink with me.
My philosophy - Enjoy all - offend nobody and its happy days !!
On the subject of "butterflies."
I would appreciate any advice on how to deal with this. It's an old subject, I know; and it seems so unfair. These girls go with different guys each week, but if they like you and catch you with another girl, then you are a Butterfly and she is unhappy.
I formed a very pleasant bond with a sweetheart of a girl from Living Dolls. We had a wonderful time together, she spent the night with me for the short time charge, came to the hotel to see my buddy and me off, bought us both refreshments and refused my money when I tried to reimburse her, etc. I think we really bonded. We email frequently, etc. So, that should be a good thing, right?
Now I am concerned that when I return to Pattaya, if she knows I am in town, it will hamper my ability to enjoy the variety of beauties that, in my book, only Pattaya can offer. Of course, I want to see her, but am concerned that she will want me to be exclusively hers. It seems that selecting other girls from Living Dolls (I really like that place) is now out of the question.
Any comments or suggestions?
LJ
L Johnson,
I’ve bar fined a lot of girls out of Living Dolls over the last couple of years. On some trips I have had five girls from the club all of different nights. It is really an easy thing to do. First you need to be honest tell the girls up front that you are on vacation and you like to take many different girls. Don’t give the control over to the girl you are the one that is paying. You can have a special girl in the club and take others, the key is to pay attention to her when you came in the club, but if you want someone else tell your girl, asked her about the other girl, she may even help to set you up with the other girl.
You give her the choice know that you are taking other girls and accept it, and that you will also take her, or you move on. She will not lose the income coming from you, she will go along with it. She just doesn’t want to lose face in the club with her friends. But if you have not been in Living Dolls for a while many things have changed. Most of the hot girls are gone and the total number of girls is less than half of what was in the club six months ago.
The fact that she didn’t take money from you at the end was an investment on her part, besides she felt you had already paid her. I would tell her about your plans before you return to Pattaya, you don’t want her telling her friends that you are coming back just for her. Again it is about saving face on her part. Be honest and keep the control, you are the employer she is the employee, remember that and it will be fine.
Sexreview
A Week in Pattaya, or Skip It and Go To Rio?
Guys:
I would appreciate some advice, as I am a newbie when it comes to Thailand. I will have about 10 days to spend as I choose, and plan to do some mongering in October or November.
Although I have always wanted to go to Pattaya, it sounds like it has really gone downhill after the crackdown. If you had 10 days to spend as you choose, would you still spend them in Pattaya, or skip it and go to Rio in Brazil?
And what about the APEC summit from October 17 to 21? If Pattaya is still the destination of choice, would it make sense to wait until after the summit? Or do you think that the APEC thing will have little or no effect on Pattaya?
The flight cost isn't really an issue in the decision, because I have tons of airmiles to spend as I please.
Your advice would be appreciated!
Raz
RasSpewtin
I have been to both places and even with the current crackdown I would still go back to Thailand for several reasons. First the weather is better at that time of year in Thailand, and rainy season is over and not a lot of heat. It is still low seasons so the tourists are less and the fun is still in Thailand.
Rio was nice and the girls were great but Thailand is the whole package. I would go just after APEC and go to Pattaya, maybe spend the last couple of days in Bangkok but that would be it. Even if they closed the clubs and they will not, Pattaya still has the girls. What are they going to do close the malls, they can’t stop the girls from finding you?
On the cost side Pattaya wins, you will spend half of what you would spend in Rio. Don’t worry about crackdowns just go.
Sexreview
Butterflying?
Be honest, tell them it's today and then byebye. When you meet them in a bar, tell 'em is was a hard choice and that you liked that friend of her's - don't be specific! - a lot as well, and that you might have her tomorrow.
If you pick them up on the street, they'll understand, well they don't bother, or they don't speak English and never heard of 'butterflying'.
And let's face it: They want to fuck anybody who pays them. Why not fuck anybody who wants to get paid?
Quit butterflying, be a helicopter:D!
Maybe is my favorite word in mongering! I start or end 90% of my sentences to bar girls with maybe. This from a well known spaceship!
Bud
I have just booked my next flight to Thailand for February. I would appreciate any info on how busy Pattaya is at that time of year, etc. etc.
I did not notice the members name who reccomended Bar Em on the corner of Soi Seven, but I had a good time in there also and would reccomend it. There were some tasty birds in here and also some mongers. I spent too much time drinking and missed the boat with one of the sexy ones. I would guess that they were freelance as they came and went as they pleased. One was short and sexy good body looks, no tits, sexy dresser. The other was flamboyant sexy dresser with good body, a bit too much make up.
Also does anyone know the email of the Grand Inn in Bangkok? Would be nice if anybody does.
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The reason why the Thai sex-heaven is going down :
(my humble opinion.)
The purpose of this posting is not the degradation of women.
Fucking for cash might be the ultimate low for any ho. They love to say :
"No, of course I don't do that kind of thing." Just as most women would say.
Western women through the media and public education have been given great status and respect. What's more in fact they are often worshipped like goddesses.
How much is the price of a ho? And a goddess?
They do the same thing.
Except called by different names.
Individuals with mammaries and vaginas attached indeed do receive different treatment than those without. Can you argue?
Imagine, we are in business. Now, we have the merchandise, how much will we sell it for?
500 baht?
Or preferential goddess status, which includes a job, money, respect, smiles, favours and so on?
What do we want?
To sustain our status and in addition let's grow in influence, respect, power.
But look! Those bastard women (Thai, Filipina) are selling the same shit that we do except for one-tenth of the price or less. (And they look better than us too!)
That's no good for business! Fuck'em! We can do this now! Let's destroy their business so that ours may grow!
What's cancer and what's business? I grow my business and from my competitor's view that's cancer that needs to be cut out. From my point of view, his business is cancer that needs to be cut out. 'So, let's cut out the bastards that we may live.'
Who is right? Of course "I", "us".
If women's rights grow, men's rights erode and vice versa. Pick your winner.
A prostitute's life is not all that bad. She gets fun beyond measure. It's not just work in chains.
And a non-pro sex-provider (wife, girl-friend) 's life is not just freedom for ever and always.
I don't want bad for any of them. Just to clear up the issue.
To call them "professional sex-provider" (PSP) and "non-professional sex-provider" (NPSP) is much more appropriate.
After all sex is not just penetration. It's the companionship of another person who we feel sexy to be with. No matter how you call it.
The only significant difference is the price it sells for. And that's down to market-dynamics of demand/supply.
Did I imply that when you think you are getting it "free", actually you are paying more? Yes, I hope so. On the long term, definitely!
When you go for "free" sex, you are destroying the Industry.
Please don't kill the cow that feeds us all!
Think of all other men. Think of yourself when you will be 60 or 70! Who will you fuck then? A 60 year old 200 pound hag from the local singles' club?
Opt for paying cash and don't give them even more power. Please!
Thanks.
Over the centuries Thai men developed a fine system to keep their women under control.
Doing this for the benefit of all concerned: themselves, their families, their kids and for their country.
Who really wants a ho out of control? That would lead to all sorts of nastiness (see Western countries).
Can I just put this in context?
The (Thai) country's official religion is Buddhism. It is much more deeply rooted belief system then our "let'sgotochurchsunday" religion.
It is the state, the law, the people, the country itself. Thailand wouldn't be Thailand without buddhism.
Their number one saint is Buddha. A man who never married, never had girl-friends, yet is revered by all.
Other holy persons are also nearly exclusively men. Celibate monks and kings of old who have also lead respectable lives.
In fact the holy books of Thai Buddhism state that a woman is only an intermediary form of existence and must be reborn as a man to attain nirvana, enlightenment.
Women are considered spiritually more unclean than men.
You could have observed that women are barred from sitting next to a monk (a spiritually clean man) on the bus or even touching him or handing over an object directly to a monk.
Women are not allowed to enter temples when menstruating.
Where do we have these restrictions at home?
Women are also not eligible for free, religious education.
Furthermore, women are discouraged from wearing too revealing outfits in public places.
In fact they could get in trouble with the cops if they disobey this or they would become free targets for some grabbing, or comments.
All over Asia a single, uneducated woman stands on the lowest grade of social hierarchy. They get the lowest wages in any job, they have the least say in anything of importance.
Their only ways to step forward and gain some respect would be to gain education (usually barred) or to bond with a man, to marry and to have kids (of course male!).
If by any chance they lost their virginity then they are hopeless and can't even marry. So they just keep selling what they have (pussy).
THIS IS IMPORTANT!:
This is all a well thought-out system that aims not to oppress women but to promote and support the country as a whole.
Because of all the stigmas there has always been a plentiful supply of cheap pussy in Thailand (and so in Korea, China, etc.).
If they think it's too hard, they can always reborn as men and enjoy the goodies. .. is the philosophy of asian men. After all we have been through it all, haven't we?
It's well known and thoroughly researched that 50% of ALL thai men regularly visit "knocking-shops" of some sort, at least once a month. (Some research say that 80%!) Most of these men are married! and do this with the knowledge of their wives. (In fact so did my grandpa back at home and every man in town.) This is not considered adultery for them.
Now, how does this compare with the "official western religion" of materialism stating that we all have evolved from frogs and monkeys and there is no such thing as spirit because we can't see that and everybody is equal because we are just meat anyway?
Also saying that it is okay for women to walk on the street near-naked, to sell pussy as long it's not for cash, they can vote, get equal pay plus all other privileges that men can't get.
It's a paradise for women!
So much more for an innocent little asian girl who comes over here to live. Have you noticed how much the change in a short time? They become rotten in a number of months.
Is this good for the country as a whole? Isn't western-society decaying away?
Does Thailand want this?
I am certain that they don't. Except they don't have much choice now.
Otherwise they can share the fate of Afganistan and Iraq, two of the last bastions of morality. They would be labelled terrorists or some other shit, everybody would hate them and they would be wiped out as a country.
Wouldn't you believe that Thailand was harboring terrorist elements and it must be occupied in order to save your life, your home, your dog? If it came at you day after day from the radio, television, newspapers? Of course you would. Everyone would.
Now, all these brainwashed, "woman-holified" western-educated men flock here and start spoiling these hos and treating them as equal. Aren't they happy?
In fact they are delighted. They love it. You can see the result. Meeting the average western dick-head every day they get brainwashed too and start to act like western women, which fucks the show up for everyone and ultimately will wipe the industry out.
I wouldn't say that there will be pussy for grabs in Thailand for ever. No. They will westernise, abandon their religion and pussy will be same as in Europe or America. Free!
Free pussy, yeah! Great. Except that when pussy is "free" it costs much more.
Don't give them more power won't you!
Everyone can help by not treating them 'like you are taught at home'. Treat them like Thai men do.
Surely, they have told you: "I no like Thai man. He beat me." Maybe she also shows you some wounds (that could have come from a motorcycle accident).
In fact they adore Thai men and their attitudes. Thai men mean Thailand to them and everything in it that they love. The little mistreatment they receive is just part of the overall experience and not a great problem. They think western men are suckers because they can't even control their own women.
One word of WARNING here: In Thailand the social hierarchy is as follows : Thai men
Thai women
Foreigners.
Which means that you are the lowest in any argument of official kind. So even though thai men beat them, you are not allowed to. They will get you, if not really because they resent it but for the cash. But it doesn't mean that you have to be an angel either.
You have to decide where you want to go. And I am talking not only about Thailand but your own home as well.
What you want to do. Do you want pussy in ten, twenty years time? Where you go when Thailand shuts (plus all Asian countries) for pussy lovers.
Do you like power in women's hands? If not, then don't give them any. Do you like licking arse and shoes for seeing half a nipple?
(Forget about pussy, they don't sell that much for cash nowadays in the West).
Just be systematic in your actions how you treat them over there and back at home as well. You still have some control. Some...
If you think that women in the West don't have tis type of control then think again. After all the "Western Economic Miracle" has been built on the free spending 'liberated' hos. Observe any major shopping mall or centre. What shops are there: hairdresser next cosmetics next jewelery next beauty salon next fashion boutique next hairdresser next jewellery store, next....
Even if themselves don't have the power, it is of great economic interest to keep them liberated (and spending...) for those who have. Even if it comes at a cost...
Umm, any chance you could take that tome to the "Thai Women" section instead? I don't see a thing about Pattaya in there, and the good old "all women are wh**res and should be so treated" discussion is quite a departure from reports such as Summiteer's excellent one. Please don't misunderstand -- I'm not against having this discussion at all, but it's really not about Pattaya per se.
Hi fellow-pussy-hunters ;-)
Have just returned from another memorable trip to Pattaya - 6 mostly fun-filled days in the sun. As promised to all who gave me tips before the trip here's my report.
Things didn't get off to the best of starts. The 2 plus hour ride from the airport to Pattaya seemed to take forever - man I wish they'd organise a short haul plane service especially as I didn't arrive till 10pm. After checking into the Roof Garden Inn (650B/night) I washed up and headed into the fun part of town for some chow and to check things out. I hadn't been there in years and it was great to see fewer tourists about - I knew that before arriving - yep the pussy to gringo ratio in the beer bars and on the street was something to savour... :)
Day 1 (actually Night 1)
It was Saturday night in full swing and I did the rounds of the Soi 8 beer bars before heading to walking street a little after midnite. The place was pumping and eventually I made my way to Marine disco to see if I could pick up a freelancer (why pay bar fines when you can get away with it?). It was like nothing had changed in 5 years - wall to wall pussy and ogling farangs. After one lap of the place I made eye contact with a very cute very very petite 5" babe (ie. a little short but just my type) with a tight little butt in a very short black seethrough fishnet dress (no, I'm not making that up) with a clearly visible g-string. I didn't need a second invitation.
Turns out she likes 'big man' (I'm 6'2"). When she told me her name was Sin I laughed and asked if she also had a 666 tattoed someplace on her (took me 5 minutes to explain that). After a little small talk she asks me how much I pay for 'boom-boom'. I said 1000B LT - she says she never goes for less than 1500B - I haggle her down to 1250B (we all need to do our bit to keep prices reasonable!). Turns out she's just arrived from Cambodia and looking to make some fast cash so she can go to cooking school (gotta give her marks for originality?? lol). Anyway, she then proceeds to bleed me for 500B in drinks and a meal outside and eventually my patience runs out - I pick her up and put her into a passing taxi-van and head back to the hotel.
Turns out she has no ID and the clerk starts making a fuss- but she has a mouth on her and just to shut her up he lets her in. She showers and things are going fine until she starts playing with my funstick. First she refuses to blow me saying she's not like thai girls?? then she starts to make a fuss about the size of my schlong - at maximum warp its about average in size but apparently that's a whole lot bigger than your regular cambodian number, giirth-wise anyway. I am not that easily dissuaded and I put on a rubber and straddle her on the bed, spread her legs and ease my knob in. She starts to make a fuss in cambodian (i presume) but she's damn tight so i go slow, but I can't seem to get more than halfway in. I get fed up with this and flip her over and enter her again. She then starts to slap at me - so I think if she likes it rough that's what I'll give her. I grab her wrists and pin down her arms and pump her tight little twat as hard as i can - all that stress from the long flight etc just unwinds into her. I get my shaft all the way in but the grip of her little pussy is still vicelike. This and the sight of that gorgeous slender body rippling under me are too much and pretty soon I blew my load and collapse on her.
I get up and get myself a Carlseberg ($1.50 can u believe that in a hotel minibar!?!) and kick back in bed to watch tv. I bar up after a while and pull the sheet of Sin for round #2. She is asleep and so after putting on another rubber I ease in the head of my shaft - she wakes up with a bit of a start and jumps out of bed with the sheet. Says she "no more boom-boom" for her. I remind her that she's on a LT deal and she tries to argue with me that we've already banged. I tell her I am paying her for a night of LT not a single shag. She says she wants to leave and has the cheek to ask for 1250B. I give her 500B as the price for ST and remind her that she'd already squeezed another 500B earlier. Its a crime to waste an erection when you've got a nice receptacle at hand but part of me is glad to be rid of her. I enjoyed her tight pussy and body but feel a bit irritated. It's 3am and I can't be bothered going out to look for a replacement so I call it a night and hope that the rest of the week picks up.
Didn't think it would take me this long to report on Day 1. Rest of the report to follow next weekend.
Cheers,
J
Hi guys,
Can anyone tell me of the action scene at Bangkok Airport?
Cheers
atta boy Joe Smuff,
hold your ground! Don't let these beeyatches roll you over like a meek little wimp. If only more mongers were like you, we wouldn't have this problem in the first place. Great job.
joe,
i'd say you made a number of moderate errors and one huge one in your post.
honestly, it sounds like you raped her. i wasn't in the room, but holding her arms down when she was slapping you doesn't seem like consent to me.
they may be working girls, but if they don't want to do something, kick them the hell out. i had a couple of girls in bangkok who promised to "smoke" long time, and didn't deliver. i didn't force my dick down their throats, but just kicked them out.
unless they're your girlfriend, once you make a deal, get the hell out of there. no dinner, no drinks.
there are plenty of really nice girls in the beer bars for 600-1000 lt.
a couple of things. first, amen to jaimito's comment about just kicking them out -- what's so hard about that? just say, ok, you go right now. especially in pattaya, where you can't walk across the street without finding someone else, just get her on the road and avoid upcoming hassles. i've absolutely never had to get physical with any woman to get what i want, in thailand or anywhere else. prostitute or not, that's disrespectful bullshit at the very least least, and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] at worst. if she doesn't want to put out, then just put her out. that's no different from firing any vendor who doesn't come through.
second, a girl without id is always potential trouble, especially a freelancer. that's how you get drugged, ripped off, in disagreements, etc.
finally, surely i'm not the only monger who makes lube a standard part of his travelling kit! a small bottle of astroglide is what, two bucks? i just put it near the bed with the condoms, and apply liberally as needed. (you'd be surprised by the happy reactions of some tgs when they figure out what it's for.) if it's too tight to get in comfortably, apply some damn lube. small wonder this girl wasn't up for round two.
No need to repost the same things again so enough to say I agree with Joe Zop post about how to treat the girls and lube being a needed part of your travel kit. One thing we need to remember is even if the girls lie to us and try to cheat us, we don't have to the same, just more on to the next one.
Hey, guys:
The Thai girls are, as a group, the sweetest and most resilient (in more ways than one) ladies on the planet. I have found that if they displease me for any reason, getting angry is never the right reaction. I have had to be firm, but I've never had to raise my voice or get rough. It's just not worth it. We're supposed to be having a good time, right? I once had one ask for more money than we had agreed on. We went back and forth and I kept telling her we had a firm agreement and I would not pay more. I gave her the amount I knew we had agreed on, and I gave her an appropriate tip (a bit generous.) I gave her a little extra tip to help her save face and, let's face it guys, we're not talking about great sums of cash. Our disagreement amounted to around 20 USD and she had shown me a GREAT time.
I love these girls and they will love you if you keep things positive and upbeat, while still being firm and not letting them take undue advantage. But I'll let them get by with a little; after all, they let me get by with a lot, don't they?
Make it fun. We are not competing with them. We are enjoyng them.
Just my thoughts, for what it's worth.
LJ
Joe Zopp,
I couldn't agree more about lube being a great thing to bring along. For commited barebackers like me its a must. Sure, most of the time the girls are very wet, but on the rare occasion one isn't, one definitely wants to avoid abrasions. Also, by always having a tube of K-Y along, I'm prepared in case I'm lucky enough to find my favorite - a three-holer. I have only ever found one girl in Thailand who could manage the back door with just saliva as a lube, so now I try to always come prepared.
So Traveler is back in the Land of smiles.
This time I did two things I never did before. Rented a room beforehand and also agreed to meet a girl that I met on Yahoo chat. She claimed to be a student - wonder what she is studying, life, farangs ? - anyway, we exchanged photos and numbers and agreed to meet in Pattaya.
For all those guys who think it is a good idea to pick chics via the net, forget about it. I got hundreds of pics send to me, but only very few look close to good. Saw only 3 cute ones. Oy is one of those three. She kept sending me SMS and shortly arrived in Pattaya after me.
First we went out that night, had to do some serious shopping, needed some equipment like comdoms and KY. Had some food, played pool just to know each other and finally went back home.
We had a very nice shower together with a small handjob, went to bed and started to have great sex. She likes it hard and deep and so I did, but suddenly I saw something on the sheets.
"Specially for Tap, the series from my last trip continued." Her period which was overdue started due to the hard ramming. So I stopped immediately and we both took a shower.
The big Traveler wanted to stop, but the small one wasn't satisfied at that point of time. She immediately gave me a blow job which was quite good , but not good enough to get rid of the bad seeds. So I've told her that there are other ways to finish off. She suddenly realized that I was talking about greek style. She first denied, cause she did it once when drunk and it was hurting her. But Traveler had done his shopping and was fully equipped, told her to relax, which was hard for her at first. Was going very soft on her, did not rush her and finally, she started to like it.
From that day on we do only greek style - she still got her period - and nice BBBJ in combination with some kind of an oily. All my Nivea milk is already gone, after just 2 days.
Got to go to BKK tomorrow. She will come along, but I will come back alone. Keep you informed on my oncoming encouters.
BTW, Pattaya is still very calm compared to christmas time. Lots of chicks and less farangs. Second road still under construction and traffic still a prob, like always.
If anybody has a special request, let me know. I will try to get the info if possible.
Over and out.
To Traveler:
Thank you for the excellent report. Way to make the best of what could have been an unpleasant situation!
Enjoy!
LJ
Traveler,
I will be there in less than 3 weeks. Can you check out the big soapies and see if they are business as usual. I haven't heard any first hand knowlege in a while.
Bud
mongering1,
Is 6 days ago up to date enough? As of then it was business as always at the soapies in Pattaya. The number of girls seemed to be about the same too. So as far as the soapies in Pattaya, the cut down doesn't seemed to have hit them. Have fun in three weeks hope everything is the same then.
Sexreview
SexR,
Thank you. Now I can sleep a bit easier. I hope to be bringing a cherry boy with me and a soapie is mandatory!
Bud
someone awhile back was asking about girls who were 'ejaculators' when they came. my favorite girl in pattaya (look under the picture section for kai - orn beer bar) was my first one ever.
now, i love daty, and i had a couple of pillows under her ass so my neck wouldn't cramp up on me too much. after about 30 minutes, she was so into it that i would have a hard time believing she was faking. but what do i know?
she was very wet, but nothing out of the ordinary. all of a sudden, she's shuddering, pressing my head into her pussy, and it feels like she's peeing into my mouth. now i'm not really into receiving rep002s, so i pulled back to check out what was happening. i tasted it, and while it was a tad salty, it wasn't [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url].
i kept diving in, and got another 4 or 5 waves of large amounts of liquid out of her. the first pillow under her was quite soaked. i asked her about it, and she said that it happened with her sometimes.
it was strange with her, because the next day i also ate her out, but that time she seemed much more aroused, and i really thought she was going to kill me with her legs wrapped around my head. she was screaming that time, but no mass amounts of liquid.
this girl had the best personality, and easiest to get along with of any girl i've met in thailand. i'm a really big guy, and when you sit down next to a girl, and her eyes go bug-eyed, and you can tell she's afraid of you, its disheartening sometimes.
this girls just seemed to love big guys, and it's always nice to be loved, right?
JC: As a matter of interest and not to be a bigger asshole than I already am: but do you think the liquid was chlamydia discharge. Lots of Pattaya TGs have it and it is kinda salty. Though many of us like DATY, yet the high infection rates might suggest we should err on the side of caution. Last time I was there, my little Soi 7 bonk was emitting all kinds of strange liquids from her pussy.
skin,
That was gross, but could very well be true.
A buddy of mine has a story. He went short time with a Filippina girl in Angeles City. She just started to suck him when she got a mouthfull of what she thought was cum. She said "You finish now?". I heard this story on the way to lunch, decided for beer instead.
Bud
I'm pretty picky about eating out abroad... If it's not clean, I'm not going there.
She was plenty wet during the workout, tasted fine, totally great. Only after a good workout (at least 30 minutes, maybe 40), it was more like undamming a river that had been blocked. It came in waves over a 10 minute period or so.
And the top pillow was soaked by the end.
Jaimito Cartero,
Last winter I had to dry the floor of my hotel in SiSaket after a session with the big **** lady from Utomphon Phisai. She is always pretty close to or reaching orgasm, but that time I had to use her towel - that's HER towel, Skinless - to dry off what she sprayed on.
I had a gushing lady too at Linda's Bar in HuaHin. She was a bit embarressed when it happened.
And of course in BlueHouseBeerBar in Pattaya, she doesn't work there anymore. I used to finish in her room, for her finale we retreated to the bathroom. Just to keep things tidy.
I like tidy.
And squirters:)!
Had a good late sleep this morning. Needed it as I'm a bit run down from all the humping, drinking, and lack of sleep. Takes one a good 4-5 days to fully adjust to the climate and culture thing once here.
I'm at the internet cafe I think on soi 8. Just had breakfast/lunch, in-fact eating right now.
Earlier about 10 AM, got up, jumped in the pool for an early morning swim. Then headed down to the beach front boardwalk. Found a a freelancer and made arrangements for an hour from now. I had to eat first.
I must have saw a good dozen or so girls working the morning boardwalk area. That was the first time I have been down that way this early in the morning. Have any of you mongers been down the front walk area that early and noticed this many girls? I was surprised. Can't let the morning wood thing go to waste!
This girl is another young sweet thing. Shy, timid, smiled at her four times before shy came up and said hi! We are meeting back at my room in a few, for coffee!?!, whatever face saving excuse she needs is fine with me. I guarantee you her clothes are off in under 5 minutes!
I'm staying at the Sabai Lodge. For Pattaya I highly recommend. Nice location, very quiet, nice staff, good services. Rooms are fairly modern and clean. Setting me back 1150 baht per night, negotiated rate for a 7 day stay.
GETTINGTANG~!
mongering1
Sexreview is right, it's business as usual at the three main soapies in Pattaya. Visited Sabailand, Sabairoom, and Sabai Dee, all three got quite enough girls to choose from. Opening times haven't changed too. Called my favorite from Sabailand and went in, but someone else just fined her for the next two weeks. But still enough other choices available.
If you want to know something more, let me know.
Went to BKK yesterday to do some family business. Also got rid of my greek loving 20 yrs old student chick. Everything has to end sometimes.
Went shopping at Panthip Plaza and at night took a short look at Nana and finally moved to Soi Cowboy. Checked most of the bars but not much to my liking, seems that I am a bit too choosy again.
Then I went into Tilac. There she was, #28, 1,56m, 42 kg, slim body, small breasts. Only a 7.5 on my list regarding looks, but a 10++ regarding attitude. She got something that attracted me somehow. Was the only one who could really dance and knows how to move her body. Seems to like it too. Bought her a drink, talked to her for a while and then barfined her (500 baht). On the way home we had some food and I bought her a pair of jeans that she wanted. I think this was probably the best investment of my trip so far.
At the hotel the standard kissing, hugging and a nice shower together with a small BBBJ. Then onto the bed and here we go. She really couldn't get enough. Many gogo girls want you to get it done fast and wanna leave as fast as possible. Not her. Told me that I do meet her specs so she was really into it. We did it at least four times in a row before little traveler had to wave the white flag. The full program. Think she had studied the kamasutra before. BBBJ, handjob, riding, front, back, anal what ever you can think of. At the morning the same game. Did it twice, had a shower and when I dressed up, she asked me if I may have another half an hour or so just to do it again. So one more ride. At the end I felt really exhausted. She never mentioned any money durig the whole time. Gave her 2.000 and she was really worth every baht of it. She brought me to Ekkamai and gave me her cell phone number, just in case that I might need another good ride. Isn't she a darling ?
Will see what the night brings. Pattaya business is down a bit, would say at least 50-60% compared to March/April this year.
police enforces the closing times at 2am and is also very seriuos regarding traffic. Was fined for not wearing a helmet and not keeping my drivers license with me, cause I started to argue with the policemen. He was in a bad mood anyway. But at the police station they did not dare to charge me, because I was asking if a friend of mine - a high ranking police officer from chonburi - might be there. So it's still the old scheme. Relations and bribing.
Have fun
Hi there all,
Lots of shagging going down. Great stuff. I had a few TG`S cumming. You get more for youre money if you satisfy them definately. I had one girl bleed on me but it was from her arse while I was doing her, not good. I had this right horny bird got caught shagging her in the hotel, and done her in some bar in Soi Cowboy. I don't know the name but it had two floors the first floor had a couple of pool tables, and had a clear glass floor. Everyone went downstairs for the lesbi show, so grasped the oppurtunity and ragged her in the toilets after a decent bj.
l'd be greatly appreciated p.s any info prices really for fining soapie girls.
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Whew, on a long run!
"It's 3Am and I just wanna do love to you" Is the theme of the day. About to bonk my third playmate in the past 14 hours, one i kicked out, so technically my second action of the day and night! My Thai lady friend is in the shower as I type this! I opted for separate showers as I was watching a news piece on the terror threat as perceived in Thailand. Turns out it is a very high threat right now for Bangkok and numerous other opportunist areas. I must have noticed 500 Arabs here in Pattaya this afternoon and evening. Not friendly to a blonde hair blue eye guy, such as myself.
The girl this morning from the boardwalk turned out to be par for the course. Played that shy routine with me. I hurried her up, laid her out on the bed and slammed her for a good 10 minutes paid her just 700 baht and booted her out! No BJ at all, even with a condom. Said she never do it and never will! So I made her pay by f*cking the living sh*t out of her! No, I did not force her or hold her down, but rammed her hard! I gave her no choice but to enjoy it by grinding on her G spot for over 5 minutes until I knew she was into it! Picked up another hickey too, I have five of them now.
Spent the afternoon relaxing by the pool, got a tad bit sunburned. This evening cruised the boardwalk area, picked up another cute young freelancer. About 50-80 of the sprawled out down there after 6 PM or so! Another non BJ girl, paid her 200 baht and asked her to leave, no service. Now this lady, in my shower right now, is 34, guarantees me a long slow BJ with riming! She better put out as advertised! Well, she's about out of the shower, just heard the water turn off. Agreed on 800 baht for her to mouth sex me anyway i like it! I was extremely upfront about this after my last two dates. I love getting a BBBJ and she indicated she loves to give them. Speaks fair english, so no BS anticipated as i explanined in great detail what i want!
Overall no complaints, again unlike the GP in Bangkok, I highly recommend the Sabai Lodge, for Pattaya, it's great. Very well located, excellent service, nice people around here. Within walking distance to many of the clubs, discos and markets.
GETTINGTANG~!
GT - The normal pricing for beach girls (which is what I assume you mean by boardwalk) is 300 baht ST.
I had one for 200 baht ST (which turned into a 400 baht LT), that was a tad crazy, but I'd talk with them a bit first. It wasn't too obvious to me until she got into my room and ranted an raved for an hour about some other girl who had ripped her off 6 months ago.
GT, I've only been to LOS twice, but I learned quickly to ask about "smoking". If you've been to Thailand so many times, why not make sure first?
I usually ask for "smoke long time", and then let them know that I expect 30 minutes minimum. Sure a girl every now and again can't do it for long (see my BKK post on the two I took and kicked out), but very few disappointments.
GT,
I don't understand about the no bj. My only trip to Pattaya netted me girls that I actually had to interupt to get them to f*ck.
Bud
GT, I do understand you, most Thai girls do try to evade bj's if possible, from my experience. However, you will find others who are more than willing to do it. Depends what girl you get. However, nothing to panick about. Just go out and get another girl. In a few days time you'll have quite a network of girls you have tried out and you'll know what they are up to in bed since you'll have tried them out. You can then choose according to what you feel like doing on that particular night. That's part of the excitement. Don't expect things to get as plain as a good old video game, you'll loose all the fun, of a helluva nice juicy fuck.
Better luck and happy mongering GT.
Attn GettingTang:
What were all those Arabs doing in Pattaya? When I was there last April I didn't see any around. Is it going to be safe to visit in October since they are having the big ACEP Summit in Bangkok? I'm blond and blue eyes and I don't want any trouble from those guys. I think Pattaya is one of the best places in the world to hang out and party.
GettingTang,
For the prices you paid you could have had a girl+room+full top class service in one of the Soi6 bars, like Ruby.
I never paid a BeachRoad girl more than B300 ST or B500 LT.
Jaimito Cartero,
I had one that was slighty crazy too, name Miau. She was a far more than average lay, but then she started bitchin'.
I kindly showed her the door.
G T,
I had originally logged onto this site to see if My favorite stomping grounds had been ruined since my last visit in 2001 by folks from the U.S. (mainly) grossly over-paying the little golden girls. This has become a major problem in Costa Rica, Mexico, ect. where it is now $75-100 U.S. to get layed short time!
I had my answer on the first page of todays forum. IT has begun, appairently. I Guess that it is un-avoidable in the long run, but I am kinda hoping that at least we could all make a concerted effort to slow this process down huh? It would be our patriotic duty gt, can we count on you? $20 US dollars for a s.t. BJ? Why don't you just stay here in the USA? That is the same price we pay here? Come on guys S.E. Asia is the last place on planet earth we have that still offers lots of great deals for the savy shopper. Lets preserve it. huh? There are 1000 girls on beach road/ walking street as we speak who will go home with you all night for B500-700, B200-300 S.T.
Here's the semi-crazy beach girl I picked up for 200b ST, and kept for 400b LT. Question: why did I keep her LT? It was late, and she kept pestering me for LT. Stupid, of course.
Well, I have decided to let my batteries recharge for about 12-14 hours. The last time I got my rocks off very little spooge came out. The little Thai lady I was with, thought she did something wrong and I was not pleased :) Little did she know over the past 4 days I have gotten my rocks off 13 times and there was just not enough sperm for her mouth!
It's been a fun run, as always. To those bitching at me for over paying the beach girls, I disagree. I have paid 600-1000 baht for my choice of ST or LT, they usually let me decide. You must remember, I'm quite the patient monger and choose the best freelancer I can find. And for crying out loud, were talking about $12-$20 here, for some of the best sexual experiences allowable on planet earth! Lets keep it real. I don't think I would want some 200-300 baht girl judging from some of the photos I have seen indicating what you get for that price. I would much rather fork out a whole whopping $3-$10 more and get some young fresh meat!
This being about my 11th trip to Pattaya and more then that to Bangkok, I can surly say, that ratio of Farangs to girls has never been better. There are by far too many girls to choose from. Every cafe, bar, shopping center, market place, massage parlor, restaurant, boardwalk, beach, sidewalk, is full of girls willing to give it up for under $20!!! They are everywhere! More then I have ever noticed in the past. This could be due to my expierence in finding them. On my first few trips, bar girls were all i found. Now I realize, almost ever young thing you see in Pattaya can be had!
I decided not to take anything home tonight, as my main vain is drained and my balls are acking! For real, they hurt. Also, got a bit of an upset stomach for all the cheap spicy food I have been eating. Weather has been fair, but thunder storms are passing through one after another, but still manages a few clearing moments during the afternoon for pool duty.
Got some good shopping in on this trip. Had a new custom fitted suit made for $76 US. Very pleased with it. Picked up some disks loaded with hundreds of MP3 files loaded on it. Found a wild Thai dude who will burn most any file you want, crams a good 60-80 songs on a CD of your choice for $12 per CD!!! I have a good 1200 songs done in MP3 form all for a deal I made of $110 US. this guy guarantees all his files and told me if any are bad he will fix them. No worries about downloading anymore!
Found a few nice massage parlors offering a hell of a good massage (legitimate) for $8 US! Got a two hour massage yesterday for $12 US, best massage ever, I almost was comatose after she was done. Overall the trip has been great, same problems as usual, too many girls, too little time! I have two more days left and plan to burn the candle at both ends before heading back to Bangkok for a day and then back to the states. Made arrangements with the virgin girl once back to Bangkok! Get this, I talked to her sister on the phone and her sister tells me she is in love with me and has not been working since she met me! Said she is waiting for me! Oh boy, could get scary! well gonna catch a few ZZs and then hit it hard later this morning and all day.
PS. One thing I have noticed on this trip, perhaps due to my experience from being here so many times, is the ease a morning or early afternoon date can be had. Seems to be lots more girls out in the afternoons and even morning walking around looking for Farangs. It's GREAT! I love morning pussy, just after I have taken my shower and had a good strong cup of coffee. I have found a good 40-80 girls to choose from between 8 AM and noon at the beach area, each morning I have been here. I never noticed that much action before on other trips. I'm telling ya, they are everywhere!
GETTINGTANG~!
GT - I know you're rich, but you simply must stop overpaying. Sure the girls are happy with you, but it ruins it for the rest of us.
How I prefer to do it, is to pay for excellent service. For freelancers in BKK, I would negotiate a 600 baht price for ST. I'd tell them that if they did very good, they'd get a tip. I never had bad service doing it this way.
I had some very cute girls from the beach. However, they didn't like pictures, so no posting here. They would ask for 500, but I never had one turn down 300 baht. Freeler helped with a lot of the info on the beach girls!
I guess now I know why the girls come at falangs with the crazy 2000 baht prices. Every now and again they'll find a stupid falang to pay it.
Wow, only $12 for a CD with 60-80 songs? Wow, where do I sign up? You can get any of these in Pattaya for $2 or $2.25 each. I got 2500 songs (and another 200 that were bad, and wouldn't load) for $33. This was with no bargaining.
And if you believe the virgin story, I've got a bridge that I think you'd be interested in. From my own experience and reading here, instead of Thai people thinking you are generous for paying double or triple, they'll think you're stupid.
At least you're having fun. You've managed a lot more than me. Once a day was always good for me. I take it a little more leisurely.
One can't argue with keeping the prices down. Us paying $300+ in the States and Canada is just ridiculous.
But if the girl is that much better loking and better in service, then another 6-8 bucks may be OK.
Now, can one go to any places where girls are just that much better (looks/service)? Where?
I got the info an BKK hotels.
Where in Pattaya can one stay for 2-3 days in a nice hotel with amenities, near action?
Vegas Mongers,
Meeting at Sunset Station in the dining area to the left as your facing Sabaro's Pizza by the theaters at noon this Sunday. Email for further details.
Bud
mongering1@yahoo.com
Getting Tang,
I don't know what you do for a living, but you could be a government spokesman!
You seem to able to twist and change history without blinkin' an eye.
Not that long ago you couldn't tell a streetwalker from a palmtree and now you are the grandmaster?
Just a couple of weeks ago you begged for daytime mongering tips and now it's all
"due to my experience from being here so many times, is the ease a morning or early afternoon date can be had."
The thing that will help you finally understand Thai prices is talking in Thai money: Baht, not your money: Dollars.
You gladly pay B500 were B80-100, like Jaimito Cartero said, is the price. And you do that time and time again.
Baddass,
"Where in Pattaya can one stay for 2-3 days in a nice hotel with amenities, near action?"
ANYWHERE!!!
But Sois 7&8 are still my favourites.
The map in the attachment:
X = buses for and from BKK (Ekamai, airport and Morchit2)
TL=Thai Limousine Service
M = Welcome to Pattaya monument from an earlier post
The numbers represent bars, hotels and restaurants. Multiply what you see on the map by ten, and you're still short of the real number...
Hope this helps
Freeler, that's a great map. Is it in the FAQ section? If not, it should be.
Always defending myself.
One has to believe it was my statement based a while back on the better service good looking and younger dudes "MIGHT" get from TGs, versus, older, middle aged, overweight guys! Notice I used the term "MIGHT" as this topic is open for much debate and many opinions, as it should be.
1. Yes I paid an absolute premium for my mp3 files. Why? As if I should have to defend myself I will. The dude who made my mp3 Cds is simply the best. He meets you at your hotel (has to verify where you stay) with a late model laptop. On this laptop he has a program listing almost every song ever recording in US history. From AC/DC, Abba to Yani and Zeppelin. All catagorized and in order. He shows you how the program works on his computer. He then leaves you his nice $1500 laptop for a day or even overnight if you need it! You use it at your convenience and go through the thousands of listings he has and mark a little "X" in the box nex to the songs you want. You then go through a list of just the songs you picked and order them by category, or in whatever order you want them to play in! These are not the files themsevles, but just an order and placement list. He then makes the Cds however you ordered them and brings them to you a few hours later. His mp3 files have no scratches, screaches and have all been digitally buffed to perfection! They are as good as any CD I have heard! They all play at the same sound level and play in the full term of the song. They play without a glitch and play in the exact order I want them to play in! Worth $110 US for over 1200 songs, that all work and play in the order I want them too play in.
As for what I pay, or don't pay for the girls. Really it's my business! I come to Thailand for more then just treating the girls like a F*ucking machine. I actually like some of their company, some of the time. Yes, the sex is the main reason, but if I like the girl, I'll give her more and don't mind doing it! When I select a freelancer, I go for the best I can find at that given time! None of the photos I have seen from certain individuals would even come somewhat close to my standards of what I choose! A difference of $5-$10 for a nice girl with a nice body and some spirit to her is much better then getting my rocks off on something I should cover with a paper bag! PERIOD! And contrary to what freeler and other might lead you to believe in this forum, most guys feel the same way!
The male body will only produce so much sperm and semen over it's lifetime! Why not use it with someone worth while and get some enjoyment out of it. The memories alone are worth far more then saving a fricken $5 bill! IMHO!
My point on finding the Freelancers was, on my prior trips, I used to walk the walking area, beach front areas during the day and morning. I would see a few girls out at that time and that was it, mostl old hags left over from the night before. Now I see them by the dozens, many are VERY attractive young girls. Something has forced this change in my opinion. I don't know what it is, but it's good for all of us. This was my point!
GETTINGTANG~!
Freeler - You're right about GT. Something doesn't quite make sense. Heck, even before WSG, I could tell you a lot about places I have been more than 3 times. And for the amount of trips he says he's made, it just doesn't add up.
On the internet you can be anyone. Some people need to "blow" themselves up. I'd guess he's between 19-25 and just getting his first taste of incredible trim.
If I didn't know better, I'd say it was his first trip. I know I was a dumb newbie in Thailand 5 months ago. You learn quick though, if you pay attention.
I had one weird thing happen the second night I was the Orn Beer bar in Pattaya. There was a falang that kept trying to get girls to come to his table, but they all refused.
I asked Kai about it, and she said, "He ding-dong". I asked for clarification, and she said he was drunk, and being an a-hole. This was the first time I had seen a falang acting so bad that girls wouldn't even talk to him.
It's amazing that people will go so far to act so stupidly. Hopefully this person isn't a WSG member, as I hope we get a higher class of person.
I haven't posted in awhile since getting a Thai girlfriend. A few months ago she strayed a little and that gave me license to do someone other than her which I hadn't done since hooking up with her.
You've all heard the line Hello handsome man. Sometimes I'm starting to believe it. The last three days I got it for free. When I tried to pay her she gave me the money back. She's afraid I won't see her again if I have to pay her. She actually told me this and she's a babe. Excellent body but just ok face but great in the sack.
I've had several girls tell me money was optional. I haven't gone with any of them. I want to know if they want to get paid or not. I hate when a girl gets pissed because I try to pay them or get pissed because I don't pay them.
Pattaya has been fun but more than half of the girls I've gone with practically refused to leave my room the next day. How do you guys get the reluctant ones out of your room without a big scene? This crying crap gets old very fast.
I've seen some very nice looking girls along the beach road the last few days. Most are still hags but there are a few gems.
Marine Plaza disco (no not Marine Disco) is loaded with babes. It's mostly an arab hangout but the play hip hop music and it appears that's what most of the stunners I've met really like. Some won't even go with any of he arabs but still like that disco. When Marine Plaza closes, most people then go to Malee One disco. Some go to Malee Two but there they play techno and most girls don't like that.
Tony's disco is at best ok. Marine disco so-so. But you can find some babes at both but I've seen the best at Marine Plaza and Malee One. Marine Plaza don't open until 1am and don't really get going until about 2am.
I hope this helps some guys find some higher quality ladies.
Later,
Duckman
Back from Bangkok I was checking out the bar scene and avoided gogos like I have done the days before. Soi 6 seems to get more and more girls to choose from with a slightly increase in quality.
But nothing there for me, so I went on to soi 7 and 8, my favourite playground nowadays. Even if there are real nice looking girls in gogos, the vast majority seems to lack attitude. Many of them want to do just a ST, never had any prob or so, but I still believe that bargirls got all in all a better attitude.
So I went up soi 7, drinking, pool and move forward to soi 8 when suddenly a girl called me and told me that I had been with one of her friends before. I ask with who and she pointed to a corner of the bar where there was a chick that i had back in March and that I had picked up in a walk by. She was again very charming and wanted to come along with me. So I bought her a drink, but then saw another one, just 1,56m, 42 kg, breast A75, but a real beautiful face. A 9.5-10 on my scale. I told my girl that I would prefer the beauty, which was very calm and seemed to be shy. My girl started to laugh and told me that this is her best GF and they share the same room. So I ask her if they would also like to share the same guy tonight and both agreed. So we went disco and finally home. Since I had made clear that a separate round which each of them was out of discussion we had a shower together and got the business done in quite a nice manner. All in all it was OK but the interaction between the two girls was a bit poor. The beauty seemed to be too shy to go off with her friend close to her, so it was quite a hard work for me to finish her. Took me at least 1h20min. Told her to relax next time and in the morning the service was much better. The other one was the exact opposite. Got off very fast and couldn't get enough.
All in all - as I said - the money spent worth.
The next night I went gogo hopping just to see if I would miss anything. Went to most gogos at walking street, but really nothing to mention. There are a few average to good looking girls, but compared to the bargirls the have no advantage. They are just more expensive. First barfine is 500-600 instead of 200 (or free) and they expect at least 1000-1500 some 2000 up for the provide service instead of up to you.
I spent a lot of time in Living Dolls 2, met two girls I had on my last trip. They do show there and really have perfect bodies. One named Boo and the other Ying.
Boo had some attitude, she is a nice person, but a bit too moody for my taste, anyway, got her last time and therefore wasn't really interested in her.
Ying instead has a great attitude and won't cause any prob at all. Was talking to her and she asked me if I wanna take her tonight again. Had her back in April and was thinking about it, cause she told me that she hadn't been with a guy for at least 2 months, she had been at home and just came back a few days ago. Moodkiller was, that she asked me how much I would give her and she was a bit too drunk too.
I have two major rules, never take a drunken girl, they either cause trouble or they want to sleep. Just very few really get hot.
Second rule, never take a girl that is just out for the money, sure they need and deserve some for the provided services, but there should also be some sympathy between them and me. In my almost 20yrs in thailand that was just the fourth time that someone asked me how much I would pay. She didn't asked last time so I blame it on the alcohol.
Went up to marine disco, found nothing and on my way down there were the two girls from last night, standing and the stairways and looking at me, asking if I wanna take them again. Couldn't decide at that point of time - already almost 2am - but I kept it as an option and asked them to come along with me.
We went to marine plaza disco, standing close to the pool tables so everybody has to pass me by and I won't miss anyone. Finally a group of girls came by who were friends of my two chicks. One of them was very nice, looking half thai, half chinese.
1,62m, about 46kg, cup C85, nice face and looked quite young. I asked her if she want to come with me. She seemed to be a bit unsure, cause I just had been with both of her very close friends last night, but they told her that it would cause no prob. So it was decided. Went home with her about 3am and the party started. She is like a rocket, once started no way to stop her till she reached the climaxx. Staying with her now the third day in a row. Will give more details later on. She is waiting downstairs at the Royal Plaza and wanted to go home with me now to do what has to be done and who am I to argue about that ?
Laterz
Hey JC....maybe that "tingtong" guy was the bald headed freak "nasty nigel" - Mr. Pervert who bangs all those chicks unprotected! "Dirty"......
Also, some good reporting lately fellows (here and Bkk sections)...good work! ;)
Freeler - as usual: sound advice and good tips....nice map!
Interesting little tempest here about prices, and it's one where I have a fair amount of sympathy with GettingTang's position, though I'm not sure I absolutely agree with his approach. The core of the dispute seems to be the prices GT is paying for freelancers along the road -- everyone knows they can be had for 300-500baht, and he's paying 600-1000 for the ones he considers younger and more beautiful. And this dispute centers on the theory that by paying higher prices he is inflating the market, and thereby harming the rest of us because these ladies will have higher expectations. Hmm.
I know there's a pecking order where gogo girls get the highest pay, bar girls come next, and freelancers get the least, but let's be honest -- there's really no reason for it other than where the butts happen to be parked. It's certainly not based on anything substantial -- there have been endless discussions here about gogo beauties who don't do anything and expect the moon. "Premium" beauties can always get premium prices, no matter where they're sitting. This wouldn't even be a discussion if GT had said he was taking TGs from beer bars as opposed to the boardwalk -- his pricing would be eminently reasonable, and he'd be being hailed as a toe-the-line hero if he were paying these prices for gogo girls. I doubt there's be any discussion if he said he agreed on 400baht for ST with a stunning TG from the boardwalk and she gave such exceptional service that he tipped her an extra 200baht. So to some extent this is all highly relative.
I'm like GT in that I'd rather pay slightly more for someone to whom I've got a stronger physical attraction, and I'm generally happy to pay in the upper as opposed to lower portion going rate scale if I get a sense that it will result in a better session. I also tend to spend more than simply boinking time with them, and have no issues with feeling I'm paying them for that time. That said, I do still tend to be in the going rates ranges.
I think you're dead wrong, GT, that people are reacting to you based on the previous discussion about age. However, any discussion that says "I pay more for TGs because mine are truly beautiful and yours are pretty much crap" is cut from the same cloth as the previous one, and people will understandably react accordingly. My tastes don't happen to generally run in the same direction as Freeler's (or very possibly yours) but I don't see the point of arguing it -- the bottom line is that one of the great things about LOS is there's a flavor available for every palate.
As far as the inflation argument -- there are always farangs wandering around paying hugely too much for anything -- all of us have watched people handing over whatever the asking price happens to be at various shops, and certainly in bars. This may mean that a TG will ask for 4000baht for short time in the hope that she'll come across another whale like the last one who gave this to her, but it doesn't mean she really expects that everyone will pay it. Let's face it -- the "going rates" haven't really skyrocketed in the past several years -- else people wouldn't be getting 300baht freelancers along the beach road.
And my only comment on the MP3 thing is that I've never understood the issue in terms of people going nuts over getting some kind of astounding deal -- if you want them, you can use any newreader to download them from the net. I was personally lots more interested in picking up CDs from the various Thai street bands I heard, or of Thai music I can't get at home. 80 songs burned on a CD means at best 160Kbps quality, which is solid but hardly exceptional or true CD quality. I only had problems with a single music CD I bought in LOS, and I exchanged that the next day without any issues.
Personally, I say bravo to the Thai entrepreneur who set up the service GT described -- he's found a nice niche market where someone will pay him a truly premium price for something that doesn't cost him much of anything -- he's got his inventory on his laptop, and he mostly needs to just use his abilities as a salesman and some cheap blank CDs. Not too many Thais get to walk away with 4400baht for that small bit of work. Next time I'm in LOS I should probably take along my hard drive with 25000+ songs on it and do the same...
Prices:
1. CDs: If GT's agreement suited him, great. There is a big learning curve there for us all and if he got what he wanted for his $110, great. It probably worked out cheaper and better for him than buying shit he would never listen to. Interesting to see the Thai entrepreneur: lending out his laptop seems risky.
2. Women: Freeler is correct to think in terms of baht, not $$. Some older women are better than younger women. A small minority of women are genuinely ugly though some, like the lady with the teeth, make up for it with nice personalities and better skills. Freeler works to a budget and sticking to a budget is one of the keys to successful traveling and mongering. Being fixated on younger women is immature and many guys who post here have this hang up. I like to size woemn up and take who will be the best bang for the buck. I have even been attacked on the Pattaya board for taking sexy looking lunatics: all in a day's job with me. In Bkk, I was actually tryIng to bed a lunatic: a black beauty with some serious head problems. When I go on the stroll here in Tokyo I often see women I fucked: between 5 and 10 is quite notaml. Many of them were good fucks/company. But I would not fuck them again as the effort is no longer worth it.
3.Thai prices are going up. Take the go go bar fine as the benchmark. Even TGs say it is too much. Take the BB One.When JS f'd her, she was 100 bt plus 200 fine a night. later, she graduated to Peppermint Go Go, 600 bt fine and 2,500 a night. Same pussy. Only older.
Finally, we are comparing notes here, nothing more. Our tastes do vary - and not only because of price, I actually hate 5 star hotels and hate staying in them, as I often have to do. Howeve,r by combining our information, we can help all of us have a better time by exercising a more infromed choice.
The Pattaya Beach stuff might be due to more women being let go from bars and go gos and being forced to pound the beat. Again, I prefer to meet a pounder than a quarter pounder. Go gos are too much like McDonald's to me. Keep em. I love only one girl. And I could never love a starfish.
Freeler,
Thanks for the map and tips. Awesome!
I'm so fucking jealous of y'all real mongers (JZ, JC, Freeler and others)!!
Although I'm not that experienced, I still have an opinion about the price issues:
A few people paying above the standard rates will not inflate the prices. Just like in Economics 101, these are aberratiosn and blips that will not effect the market in general. I think girls do see it for what it is i.e. a bonus (or a sucker!)
It is a little bit (or lot) about the state of mind. Fucking an expensive ***** is like driving an expensive car. You may just feel beter (or different about the whole experience. I think we all to fuck beautiful girls with great bodies, but are sometimes disapointed after the experience. This happened to me with a US$ 300/hr an Ca $ 450 girls.
Hobbying, as Mr. Gump said, " ..is like a box of chocolate...", and price and looks unfortunately don't correlate with the service/attitude.
Joe Zop,
Did that Thai CD burner guy make himself a solid business or is he a smart opportunist who just took an opportunity he'll never get again?
That is until GT returns to the streets of Pattaya:D!
Skinless,
I dare you to find a single post of mine in which I claim to travel on a budget.
I DO NOT TRAVEL ON A BUDGET!
In the old days when cash and checks were the only way to go I more or less did: Don't spend more than you carry!
Now it's ATM-cards and more AutomaticTellerMachines than you can dream of. It's just that during my last six trips I did not manage to spend more than about B900 a day average.
And I can't recall that I ever complained about the quality it got me.
All,
We had a price debate here about a year ago. Prices in touristy places are higher than in non-touristy places.
If you act as a tourist!
Try to be a little like a local and you will find that many items that seem to sell at inflated prices only, in fact come much cheaper just around the corner. You can still have your B10 coffee right on the steps of a Pattaya shopping mall amongst people who paid B30 for their's.
Same for beers, food, women, transport...
Ok,
I can take a jab or two with the best of them here on this board. However, if and when I decide to hit back, it usually involves a knockout blow.
A knockout blow usually involves something along the lines of pointing out, that from pasts posts certain individuals who claimed to be reporting "live from Thailand" were infact sitting comfortably from the trailer park hacienda! Either that or they have wireless Internet capabilities now for customers while flying over the South pacific!
Enough said. I'm am very pleased, with the overall service and level of girls I have chosen to keep me warm on this trip! I am ecstatic that I now do not have to worry about being suit by the music industry for downloading music, because for $110 lousy dollars, I have every song in Mp3 form that I have ever dreamed of having. I'm also very pleased they all work perfectly, with no distortion. I'm very pleased that the individual who did this service for me asked for not 1 baht up front! And has a huge amount of Farangs lining up for his service as he digitally perfects each and every song he has.
I'm most ecstatic that I have gotten my rocks off 16 times now on this trip all for (what some think is a rip off) for the price of perhaps two shots for some stuck on herself, high-class Las Vegas or Los Angeles hooker would charge! Not too mention, (IMHO) they were far prettier, made me feel much better, and keep far superior company and friendship then any high-class stuck on herself hooker in the US could ever give!
If I'm the dumb farang, then what does that make some on this board, who fight, scrap, control, and claw their way to save a measly $5 or sorry $200 baht? I enjoyed all but two of my experiences on this trip. The only two that were less then desirable were the two girls who not give a BBBJ, but they still were a decent lay!
Overall, this was a great trip, still got two days left and plan to make the best of them. I don't regret spending one baht! It was great, the girls are exceptional, the food, the Thai people are always as advertised, warm and hospitable! For those who yell at me for paying too much for that beautiful 20 somethings beach girls (all 600-1000 baht, $15-$25 US) well, too bad, if that is somehow going to ruin it for you, then well, I guess it's just too bad, because, I'm having the time of my life!
GETTINGTANG~!
gt - you're way too defensive, dude.
some guys come on the scene and want to get senior status, and pretend they're big players. if you've been with 16 girls, you've been with more than i had in my whole month.
before wsg, i learned all my info the hard way. i went to costa rica in 1989, and knew nothing about there being girls there. i stumbled across a massage place that had stencils of naked ladies in the front window. i thought, "this looks interesting".
i went to mexico and asked around a bit to find some action. it was very hit and miss, but i had fun.
the whole thing that makes wsg such a great place, is the sharing of info. the fact remains that 80% of guys who get all their info here never report on it.
even better (sarcasm mode) is the guys who say, "i had the best sex of my life", and then say they won't tell anybody the girls info since they don't want to "ruin it".
some of your rants just don't make any sense. this latest "knockout" one in particular. there are a lot of guys who lie about stuff on here, it's nothing that unusual.
however, when someone just spouts bs all the time, it gets old quick. you got the music you wanted. i don't know of anyone who would leave a $1500 computer with someone he didn't know. didn't freeler mention getting his laptop stolen while living in pattaya? hmmmm.
i'm sorry, your cd guy is not going to improve the music. if it was encoded from a good source (no scratches, pauses) then it's fine. i'm sure it's either 128kbs or a 160kbs recording. sure, he can do volume leveling. it's not anything to get excited about.
i'm a little confused about your statements of paying the beach girls so much though. if you really want the best looking ones, why not go to walking street? i mean, you can pay 2000 baht for st at living dolls, along with 1000 bar fine. when i was there in may, that was where i saw some of the best looking girls in thailand.
and regarding "not getting suit (sic)", if you were really concerned about getting sued, you probably wouldn't post it on a public forum. a good analogy would be in procuring drugs. just because you buy something illegal in thailand, doesn't make it not illegal when you bring it back. i think you'll be safe, though. i have yet to see the riaa reps at the customs counter yet.
the problem i always encountered with online music swapping was quality. nothing worse than spending 3 hours downloading something (even with a cablemodem, it always seems the song you really want only get 3.2kbs dl speed) and then it's junk.
about 1/2 the music i obtained in bkk was stuff i already owned in one form or another. i've bought 600 cds in the last 18 years. nothing's worse than looking at your cd and it looks so scrached up.
Jackson: I have to second your motion/order. Let's cut the CD talk. I have backchanneled JZ and Freeler on issues like this on many occasions. If GT got what he wanted at a price he was cool with, good. It is interesting to know there is a market in the CD gap as there is an obvious gap in the market.
Let's just accept all the info and ask questions or make smart assed comments as appropriate. The beach walk makes a nice stroll and it is heartening to see nice ladies out there. Such a change from the past. I can't say I have been particularly lucky there. The nicer looking babes have refused my cheap charlie offers and there are some dogs there who, though they might enjoy a bone, are nothing worth writing here about. Any price any of us pay won't have an impact on the market which is driven by the 99% who don't even though this board exists and the go g owners who set the top prices. I am meeitng my beloved in less than 3 hours. The hotel short term costs 1000 bt. Her fee is over 3000 bt short term. And that is a bargain here: two bonks with a flat chested animal. All prices are relative. Peace and shalom. Now always look on the bright side of life. No more bitching gents. Be thankful for all info, evne if it does not apply in your case. Everybody kiss and make up.
Well, let's be honest, it's nothing to get 16 girls in LOS, if that's what you want to do. All it takes is the time, the baht, and the stamina. A nice wake up BJ, a ST or massage or two in the afternoon, and something happening at night and you're at that number in no time. That's part of the wonder of the whole place. Heck, Skinless in his Heart of Darkness tour was doing eight TGs some days, so it's hardly some impossible number.
(And FWIW, nobody's been sued for downloading MP3s, only for exchanging. My point was simply that there are lots of other ways to get MP3s than to fly halfway around the world to do so, so whether someone's getting them for 80baht or far more is pretty much irrelevant. Are we next going to argue over the proper price of camera accessories? Of the merits of this versus that cell phone? Jackson's rightly pointed out that this whole discussion is seriously off topic.)
Well put Skinless, since your comment came in while I was composing -- the bottom line is always whether you had the time you wanted to have, and the money and numbers are in the end secondary if not irrelevant to that, especially after you've put out a grand plus for the flight and lodging. In the same way that folks have taken people to task for heading to LOS for one girl, I say, who cares? There's no one prescription for how to have your good time any more than there is one standard of beauty. Freeler thinks we're idiots for spending extra money in gogos and for paying too much for booze when we can get it cheaper at the 7-11. I think he's missing out on some degree of atmosphere and watching the circus. What's the right way? What's the difference? If it's what you want, and you're happy with it, that's what matters. And being an intentional fool is very different from being an unintentional one. GT's happy with his trip and experience, so I'm pleased to hear that he's taken whatever advice he found useful from this forum and made use of it in a way that makes him happy, and I'm grateful to learn from him that the quality of TGs along the beach road appears to have shifted, for whatever reason. That is something I can keep in mind during my next trip, and getting such information is, after all, the purpose of the forum.
I say thanks, GT, for your reports, regardless of whether your approach would be mine or not. Don't worry too much about the criticism -- the bottom line from my personal perspective is that you're the one being fucked into oblivion by pretty TGs at this particular instant, and I'm not, and so I'm enormously and appropriately envious :D
I'll be in Pattaya beginning 21 October and I'd like to stay in a nice hotel. I know everyone raves about the Eastiny, etc, but has anyone stayed at a 4* Hotel there? How about the Hard Rock--would it be expected to be guest friendly? I presume it's not in the heart of the action, but I like nice places. Thanks for any help.
Tman777
I highly recommend the Sabai Lodge. 1000-1250 Bt per night, modern clean rooms, excellent pool, walking distance to anything and everything you desire! Flamingo hotel is another great hotel in the heart of the action. Owned by a Dutch guy and his Thai wife, very clean, very friendly staff. If you're seeking a 4 or 5 star hotel resort type setting, they will NOT be guest friendly and check EVERYONE as they come onto the grounds. The cost from a 3 like the two I listed, to a 4 star resort place is triple and not worth paying the difference, plus the hassle of getting ripped every time you bring a girl back. The two hotels I listed are not dives and just a notch below a resort (IMO). The resort places are geared at keeping you on the premises to pay their overpriced costs for drinks, food, etc. I can recommend a few very nice places I have stayed on my earlier trips, but trust me if you're into serious mongering you won't be happy. You'll end up staying at the regular recommended places most all of us do.
GETTINGTANG~!
Tman777:
Hard Rock hotel is very expensive! They want dollars, about $100 plus for one night! Forget that place.
Hello again,Tman777,
I stayed in the Hard Rock in Feb but it is not guest friendly. Its mostly Japanese families. You will be made to feel kind of foolish when you bring in your lady of the night, what with the registering and questions and stuff. A fellow monger was staying at the Sabai Lodge and it is a nice place. BTW, is this your first time in Thailand? You'll have a ball.
I'm thinking of doing a Rio/BA trip in the next few months. If interested, let me know at : snafle@hotmail.com.
Don
Tman777,
Don't waste your money on a high priced hotel. The Hard Rock is a great place, the best pool in Pattaya, but not needed. Stay on Soi 7 or 8 at the Flipper or the Eastiny and you'll have a ball. If you want upgrade to suite and you still will pay half or less of the Hard Rock price. Nothing like having 500 girls within a hundred feet of your front door.
Sexreview
Still in Pattaya and hunting.
My thai chinese girl is the one your mom warned you of. She got a french boyfriend who keeps calling her all the time spending a fortune on phone bills just to hear that she goes with other guys. It's quite funny, she is in bed with me playing with small traveler and assuring him at the same time that she loves just him. Usually I insist that the mobile has to be switched off when doing what has to be done, but it is so amusing listening to her that I sometimes even remind her to call him so he can call back.
This guy is more than stupid, cause he isn't supporting her at all (which is the smart part) and instead spends all his money for calling her. He should better keep it and come here to stay with her, but what can you expect from some who is eating frogs and whitebread ?
After five days with her I lost interest, she is sexy and a rocket in bed, likes to party, is easy to handle, gives a shit on farangs and cares only about herself. So she is the total match for me :-)
But at least, so much other meat around that has to be tested.
Had my beauty for a ST from the threesome some days ago again. Was much better now. She told me that day she was worrying about her mom who got serious ill but that she is improving now.
Found a real sweet one at the bars opposite BIG C. Just 17 turning 18 in february, a cashier, still goes to school and quiet smart. Won't go with any customers and does no dating. Visited her every day, playing pool, talking and finally got a date for tomorrow afternoon. I know that there is not enough time now to get her, but will be back in december. I love to be challenged.
About closing times, Marine Disco 2:30am, Marine Plaza 3-3:30am, Marine II 3:30-4am, Marine Plaza lek (small) 4am. So people move from disco to disco till police enforce to close one after the other.
Tonys is getting nuts. For a jug of Heineken they want 410 baht now. I wanted some more ice and they tried to charge me 30 baht for it. They also having signs hanging around that say, that every customer has to buy at least 2 drinks. Think we should all stay away from there.
Will check the shorttime scene around third road in the next days and will report on that.
The most important equipment for a trip to pattaya nowadays - besides a sufficient amount of comdons - is an umbrella. It's raining every day.
to be continued...
Does anyone have a recommendation for a good cheap month-to-month rental hotel room in Pattaya? This strong baht weak dollar situation is killing me. Will be in Pattaya at least December and January.
OK, thanks to all (GettingTang, npaul, SexReview and Don)
I'm convinced. I'll stay at one of the recommended places and try to upgrade to a suite. This will be my fifth time in Thailand, but I've never been to Pattaya--just BKK, Chiang Mai and Phuket. Don, I read about the Angeles City trip and it doesn't sound like you'd bother to return. I'll be arriving in BKK on October 17th--right in there with the APEC conference! If anyone is around then, let's meet up. Travelman777@yahoo.com
Opebo,
'strong baht weak dollar'? Thailand is still cheaper for Dollar earners than four years ago...
Please define 'cheap' for a month' roomrent: B4.000, B10.000 or perhaps B20.000?
Do you want a hotel or is a (serviced) appartment ok?
Freeler, the Baht is at about 39.6 to the dollar at the moment. Was 39.77 when I posted my complaint. I suspect it will go to 38 or worse. This is a lot more expensive than the 42 or 43 that prevailed on my earlier visits, and definitely cuts into the money available for paying the girls. I'm on your wavelength as far as paying as little as possible, using freelancers, etc., but still it all costs money.
As for a room in Pattaya, I want something cheap. Clean and comfortable, with A/C of course, but no pool required. I'll only be there three months. Somewhere fairly central as I won't have a motorbike. I don't mind walking, but just not too far. Know of any such places for say between 4,000 and 7,000 baht per month?
Hi Tman,
The Hard rock is too expensive to be practical,I'm also certain they either have a joiner fee (if you bring a girl back) or are not guest friendly.
You could try the Residence Garden which is on the main Pattaya-Jomtien road and is a baht bus route. It has suites, a good pool and good service, guest friendly and can be found at www.theresidencegarden.com. I have stayed there several times and the owner, Ib is a scandanavian guy who is very approachable and knowledgeable.
They offer a discount, just say you are a member of the FLB board (freelancerbar.com) which is a board set up to promote one bar but has a discount scheme working with the hotel. Currently prices are 1500 THB for a 1 bedroom suite.
Opebo, if you want a long term rent, there are a set of Condos called View Talay, prices range from around 4-5000 THB per month (bills not included). The best thing to do is get there and rent a hotel room for a week then shop around.
Regards
Happy hunting
Butch
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Joe Zop
I have moved previous post to "Thai Women" section. Unfortunately haven't been able to delete original posting as the Admin sets a time limit on editing.
Nevertheless what I was meaning to say was that the sex-scene in Pattaya is at crossroads. What will happen to it is partly up to us. If we get together, we set the rules. Otherwise it will be all just history. My aim is "responsible, sustainable sex-tourism". Good fux for all on the long term. Let's not destroy all this good thing.
Just got my confirmation for Flipper Lodge, Oct 13-19. Had a group of mongers over to BS about SEA. Printed out a map of Pattaya and planned every minute. lol I NEVER follow a plan when mongering!
I do have one concern. If I make I make it to Billion Beer Bar, I may end up with one girl my whole stay, yes, she was that good. (The last girl in my trip report) Is this possible? For reference sake, this year, 160+ unique barfines in SEA and a few "freebies" and non workers. What if this really does happen? I have a steady in PI, but I do girls with her. Hmmm, I won't have a group of buddies this trip to scorn my actions. Last time this happened, for two days, it cost me a water buffalo and a generator. lol
Ok, you all can tell I'm getting pretty excited about now. Anyone going to be in town feel free to email me for a beer.
mongering1@yahoo.com
Bud
Mongering1,
This is not a plan:D:
Go to the BBB, or better the BlueHouseBeerBar nextdoor, pick a girl, pay mamasan B500, take the girl upstairs, to your thing, for extraordanary service tip the girl B100-200 and leave saying: See you tomorrow, maybe, maybe not.
Simple!
PS My 100+ Thailand bonks this year were all none BF.
Freeler,
You surprise us,recommending tipping 100-200 on top of the 500baht house fee. I talked to alot of expats who frequent the Blue house beer bar and the Billion bar and most all of them don't give the girls any additional money and the girls don't expect it. They split the fee and the girls make their money doing falangs in quantity. I have been going there for years and have never given tips and the girls are very happy to see us the next day or whenever we decide. As a matter of fact I got laid there about 5 hrs ago. Please stop helping to drive up the prices in Pattaya!
Bil here reporting live to mongers with questions and helping to supply hands on information to those so enamored. Beach road sidewalk is looking great daily, as the freelancers are plenty and vary in numbers depending on the hour and rainfall. Sure there are the 200-400 baht old and over the hill nasties that can be had, for those who keep them in business. Interviewed a couple of younger (21 & 23 with no children) not- so-jaded lovelies who refuse to go for less then 7-800baht. Still a great deal compared to the price of equal quality girls of Bkk. The beer bars are not crowded at all with customers, so its the best time of the year to be here if you don't mind the intermittent rain. Bought a pocket poncho for 45 baht, handy to have when riding my scooter for 100b/day. A great gym to work out in with basic machines, free weights, etc is the Sitpholec gym in the weekender hotel 2nd floor opposite soi 2 near big C shopping ctr. 1000b/month or weekly/daily rates. The Sabai lodge on soi 2 is quiet, great pool and the clean economy rooms with a/c, a 19" tv,lock box and fridge can be had for 600b/weekly rate now. Lots of Brand New hotels opened up near the Lek hotel with price starting at 900b up.
Bil to Freeler: [i]Please stop helping to drive up the prices in Pattaya![/i]
Hilarious! Thanks -- I choked on my coffee laughing.
Joe Zop,
On Bil:
You beat me to that one, but only because I had to reinstall some sh*t on ye olde 'puter!
:D!
Bil - I'd say you were high on the price of upper end beach girls. I had a nice 22 year old for 300 baht, no problem. And I'm not handsome any more!
I know that for 700 or 800 baht, I'd definitely just go to a beer bar. That way you get to play some pool, and maybe feed an elephant or two. And the selection of girls (plus you know where they work) is usually superior.
It seems that the prices are being driven up all over Pattaya. What we need to remember is that we (the client) have almost all the power in Pattaya over the providers (the girls). Even in high season always more girls than clients so never a problem finding great girls. With that in mind we set the price and if the girl doesn't like it then move onto the next 999 girls waiting to service you. It is really easy, until guys see girls they really want and start overpaying then the girls always want to be over paid.
The best way to keep the prices down is don't agree with the girls to meet their high prices. It happened in TJ (Mexico) the guys coming across the border for the night started paying based upon US rates and now the prices are through the roof. Let's not make the same mistake here too.
Just as a note about the "driving up prices" issue and the level to which we can or cannot affect things, it's worth noting that the folks on this board make up a fairly small percentage of overall visitors to LOS -- according to the Thailand Tourist Authority, only three countries from the west are in the top ten in terms of number of tourists to Thailand -- that top list is, in order, Malaysia, then Japan, China, Korea, Singapore, Taiwan, the UK, Hong Kong, USA, and Germany. I post this not to say we don't affect things, but to note that the things we affect are only a small portion of the whole.
And perhaps this list also helps explain why Thaksin's government feel comfortable attacking and demonizing Westerners -- the truth is that we're a far smaller part of the whole tourist trade than we might suspect.
SexReview - Well I know that TJ is really a cesspool. My first time there in the early 80's it was $25 for the girl and a room. Nothing exciting, really.
I've gone 4 or 5 times in the last ten years, and while Adelitas has some nice girls, the service is horrible, and $40-$45 for 30 minutes, plus $11 for the room, plus tips to everyone anywhere associated with place is ridiculous.
I guess if you're in So Cal, then it's not badly priced compared to north of the border.
Hopefully Pattaya will never get to that level. It's really nice to be able to go somewhere for a month, have as many girls as you want, eat great food, and stay in decent hotels. All for well under $3000, including airfare.
JZ - Even though there are more tourists from Japan, China, etc, most of Pattaya is a US/Europe zone, as far as I could see. There are select places for Japanese, but in my meandering around the city, I didn't see many.
I think that unless Thailand attacks the underlying reasons, there won't be a serious decline in prostitution. (Such as rampant poverty, inadequate education and lack of jobs for Thais).
Even without the girls, Thailand is a wonderful place. I would have never known this if there hadn't been the girls to draw me there.
JC, I completely agree with you that Thailand is a wonderful place regardless of the girls, though I rather doubt the TAT will base a campaign on your experience: "Come screw our beautiful women, and discover the country while you're at it!" LOL -- I'd love to see that one!
I agree that Pattaya is primarily a western mongerer hangout -- I posted the list to note that it's the exception rather than the rule. In truth, mongers who read this board have the ability to be far better informed than the vast majority of tourists in regards to prices, and a few people from this board paying a couple of hundred baht too much here and there isn't going to have the same effect as that had by the thousands of guys who are there paying outrageously. (Not to say that talking about it isn't important -- that's one way we all get informed.) The other reason was simply to suggest that perhaps one reason Thai officials feel they can safely target the sex industry for cleanup is because the reality is that western mongerers are actually a relatively smaller part of the total tourist package -- fully 50% of those who come to LOS come as part of a package tour -- and authorities probably feel that if they can buff the overall image of Thailand then they can further improve those numbers, offsetting the baht these hard-working TGs would be losing from budget-conscious mongers.
As I apologized on the BKK Hotel thread, so I do for this one. After posting the message below, I did a search and found some postings regarding the Sawasdee Chain. But, any additional info is most welcome.
Sawasdee SeaView?
Hello all,
I'm counting down the days before my next trip tp LOS (late Nov).
Just wondering if anyone's stayed at the Sawasdee Seaview before? How is it? And are they guest friendly?
They also have a hotel on Sukhumvit Soi 4 in BKK called Woraburi Inn Suk Soi 4. How is that? Anyone stayed there before? The price jumps from 450 to 800 between standard and superior room.
Would really appreciate any comments on the above hotels or just on the Sawasdee chain in general.
Will post report upon return from trip.
Diver
Tourists...
Malaysians stay in the South: HatYai and Phuket. The pricelevel for mongers in HY is about the same as in Malaysia and easily 2 to 4 times higher than the rest of the Kingdom. The way prostitution works in HY resembles more what happens in Malaysia than Thailand.
The Chinese come in groups, stay in groups and leave in groups.
The same goes for the Koreans.
More and more Japanese travel on their own, many carry the Japanese version of the LP, so these folks all go to Ayutthaya, Lopburi and Surin.
Leaves Yanks, Brits and €-landers, who all come to fuck their brains out, but many are to baffled by the experience to enjoy it and just get drunk.
Some claim to actually go out there and see the sights: Sukhothai, Phanum Rung and the GrandPalace. Pfff...
What did the TAT statistics try to tell us: Number of arrivals per nationality?
Not nights or money spent!
Fact is that only the number of Russians and the Dutch visitors went up in the first half of 2003 compared to the first half of 2002. All others got scared and went to fucking Turkey or Aruba.
Their loss.
Guys lets get back to the girls of Pattaya. Here is one I found one night at Dollhouse A Go Go on Walking Street.
Here is a beer bar girl that I found on Soi 7, great girl and a great time.
I found this girl on Walking Street, no bar fine and very happy to take a date. I think she works at Polo A Go Go when not being a free lancer. Great little body and lots of fun.
This little honey works at Giligans A Go Go on Soi Pattayaland I. Even the smaller bars can sometimes hold a gem or two. The Penthouse Hotel is a great background for pictures but to much noise for my taste.
I've always liked Diamond A Go Go on Soi Diamond, fair drink prices, lots of hot girls and very low key. Here is one of the many girls that I found at Diamond.
One more for now, you would think any girl who tattoos “SEX FOR YOU” on her arm has to be a little wild right? Well you would be right, and she was very wild, 18 and high energy all the way. First saw her while walking on Soi 8 but I was with another girl so didn’t act. Then later went into a Go Go bar on Soi 8 and she was dancing and moving on the stage. A great overall package.
Great pics, and very useful descriptions, SR -- thanks!
Jaimito,
I'm glad you are finding girls that appeal to you for 300baht. I personally think that there is something very wrong with a young girl who would ask or agree to so little money from a not so attractive falang.(you said it, I didn't) And the beer bars are great for guys like you who don't mind the smoking, the pestering beggars and vendors, over inflated soft drink prices and just being around drunks. Sorry, not for me. It just bothers me that some guys ARE driving up prices by giving tips on top of the already agreed to s/t or l/t price. These girls don't give a damm about you and are ready for the next dick in line that has the baht. You will be forgotten. Sorry to be so harsh, but sometimes the truth is a mofo. Some of us are so brainwashed and westernized that we feel we should be tipping the street food vendors too! Tipping hookers in thailand is for suckers.
SexReview, that Sex For You girl sounds great. I'll be in Pattaya next month, having a look at Soi 8. What was the name of the Go-Go she came from?
Bil,
I don't believe that 'extraordinary' means normal, average or usual.
More and more posters here FINALLY are paying less than they used to, thus leaving some money for the girls who deserve it, like the ones in BBB or BHBB who never disappointed me or anyone I met there.
Jaimito,
Of course we are not as handsome as Mr. Bil, so I guess the girls go with us for 'little money' because they like us, lah!
SexReview,
The Penthouse IS a great place for pictures (as some Farangs with 'pay'sites:D found out!)
Sex Review,
Great pics.
I especially like the Sex For You girl, Doll House and Giligan girls.
Wow. I've never mongered in Pattaya - did my activities in BKK, Hat Yai and up north. But I've promised myself a trip to Pattaya this next trip.
Diver
diver69,
If you have never tried Pattaya you really should give it a try. I think it is the best place in Thailand but that is only my opinion. Most guys seem to really like it a lot. The Soapy Massage places are also great, below is one of the girls from Sabai Room, 90 minutes 1500 baht.
Sex Review
Here is another Massage girl from Pattaya, this one works at Susie Massage on the corner of Soi 4 and Beach Road. She really worked hard for the full 90 minutes and a nice rack too. It is one of the smaller soapy massage places in Pattaya, about 20 girls on any given night. The fee charged is 1500 baht with complete service.
SexReview,
Thanks for the pictures Senor. Es muy bonito para mi (it is very beautiful for me).
I have never mongered in Pattaya. The only time I ever went there was with a Thai girl that ended up marrying a guy from New Zealand.
These girls are as bonito as her. But I think #13 is a little on the chubby side.
No matter. In the past there was a guy that went by Z. He always said the girls in Pattaya were ugly ho's that should be F@#$ed like recepticles, or at least they should be thrown out in the morning. Maybe he was right. But on the other hand...
Well Sir,
You are changing my opinion. I think I will visit the supposed land of ugly ho's next time I frequent LOS.
Gracias Amigo,
Miquel (I mean poster...)
All members
First trip to Pattaya and I am looking at the Residence Garden Hotel 146/107 Moo 10, Thappraya Road, could anyone let me know if this is a bit far from the action.
The hotel syas it is 5 minutes from Beach Street, but it is hard to judge from the map.
I assume Taxis are in plentifull supply anyway, it just looks a good place to relax in the day and is very girl friendly.
Arriving on the 21st Oct so any suggestions are most welcome.
Sexreview,
Girls look great! I was kinda disappointed after having seen some other pics from LOS.
Now that's more like it!
Enough to change my plans.
I'll have to take a couple of days out of my BKK trip and head over to Pattaya.
badass,
I was thinking the same thing. I've only been to LOS once, but the girls looked much better than the pics being posted IMHO. I like the young, over 18, girls with hard bodies and cute faces. Of course thier attitude and performance will make up for beauty flaws. lol Pump station on Soi Post Office, perfect example. Skills to beat all, but not easy on the eyes. For some reason I had my eyes closed during my sessions there. Could be because I didn't want to look at my buddy next to me getting off?
Bud
Mongering1, Badass,
Pattaya has many great girls, and lots of very hot ones. Below is a picture of Dau she works at Sabai Land Massage on the corner of Soi 3 and Second Road, across from Big C. She is a really a little operator, I believe she is 25 now but she tells guys she is 21. I first saw her about three years ago working here, and she has hardened somewhat over the last couple of years but still a great time. Always very popular and in high demand, she works almost every day. As hot a soapy massage and finish as you will find anywhere in Thailand. If you want all out no holes bared and/bi two girls’ threesome, this is a great choice.
Sexreview
SR - Nice pictures. Much better than the ones I take. It's nice to see some of the other girls out there. I'd probably see a few of them just from the pictures.
Bil - Oh, so if I paid a beach girl 2000 baht, it would be okay? What a ridiculous bunch of rubbish! They're not doing it for love, no matter what they tell you.
It's supply and demand. Want to know how many girls turned me down while I was there? None. I had three girls that would only come with me together, and I wasn't quite up for that.
Some guys will tip, others will make the girl pay for the condom. In Pattaya I didn't tip at all. In BKK I would tip for excellent service, and tell them that up front. And I think I paid 1000 baht ST twice.
I only went to one beer bar, and there was not a lot of smoke or such there. It was open air, and I prefer not to be in a closed club with poor ventilation.
Guys go to Thailand for sex for a few different reasons. (1) They want good quantity, quality and price. (2) They're so obnoxious that they can't even get SWs from where they're from. (3) They're so hideous they wouldn't get a second look from their own mother.
LOS Gonorrhea warning:
Got back from Cebu and as you know over a week in Thailand. I forgot to mention, I struck up a friendship with a few fellow mongers while I was in Pattaya. I got to talking to two mongers who told me some horror stories regarding their recent trip. Both had come down with Gonorrhea and the second guy caught Herpes, Gonorrhea and the clap all with a 35 day span. Both of them said from receiving BBBJ as everything else was kept covered! More on the second guy later, who ended up spending three days in the hospital with an IV in his arm feeding him antibiotics.
Now I had explained to them about my track record of some estimated 2500 or so BBBJ, most from different providers and how lucky I was for not coming down with anything. I explained to them my method of pissing right after the BBBJ and wiping down my package and the surrounding areas with Alcohol.
Anyhow, it turns out that when the second monger came down with his trio punishment, he also caught a rapidly growing strain of resistant Gonorrhea! Yes, I said resistant! He was given the typical 2 pill two day dose, did not phase it, went back to the ER, by now he had broken out in herpes, the prescribed medicine for was doubled from the original dose for the gonorrhea! This poor sap was covered in lesions, his left nut was swollen the size of a baseball as now the gonorrhea had spread inward rapidly. He goes back to the ER two days later and they admit him and call in a "specialist" as he know has a raging fever. The specialist tells him there is an epidemic of resistant gonorrhea spreading around Pattaya and has started hitting Bangkok! He told him of some patients from the UK who had died from this strain! Well, the "worlds strongest antibiotics" as he put it, eventually knocked it out, he had 104 degree fever for three days and said he thought he was done for! Anyhow, his lesions clear up after about 12 days, he goes out mongering, gets a few BBBJs and catches the clap! Luckily it was the easy to cure kind this time around! This dude said he was officially retiring from mongering after that!
Now the point of me mentioning this is to warn fellow mongers. I could not verify his story. I would consider these guys, friends and there was no reason for a lie to be told, not along these lines. He even showed me his little Pattaya hospital card and his bottles of meds. So I have to believe him. Also, if you go over to the Bangkok tonight forum, there are hundreds of posts to be found on mongers catching gonorrhea and other nasties in Pattaya and some from BKK from receiving BBBJ's, many claim they are getting it from the BJ bars. Now this seem logical to me, but scary. I just went in yesterday for my usual screening, no symptoms yet, but I'm a bit on the paranoid side, so I think it might be safe to say I escaped any nasties. I have on occasion heard of the fellow monger picking up something as you all have i'm sure. But never like this. This guy told me a very high % of the girls in Pattaya were packing, as the doctor told him this directly. Said he treats over 15 patiens per day alone for Gonorrhea
Has anyone else heard of such a thing as resistant Gonorrhea? I always thought it was simple bacteria and quite easily curable. Could there be such a thing? I consider myself a safe guy, I don't do DATY, unless she is my GF, I don't fuck anything without it being covered, but I do love BBBJs. And I get a lot and I do mean a lot of them! The thought of having to cover up from a BJ is almost enough to make me stay home from Thailand!
GETTINGTANG~!
G.T. /
The one you called ghonorrea is not that kind of disease.I guess you're talking about something else, harder than that.
As you said Ghon. is a very stupid bacterial very easy to treat.
Unfortunately Pattaya in the last decade has becomed the reign of the worst N.S.U. around the world. Most of the Non Specyfycal Urethretys are often mistaken and treaten like Ghonorrea and that's why they're becomed stronger and harder day by day.
Most of the girls got both of them.Ghonorrea + N.S.U.(Clamydia,etc..)
I wrote something already in the 'Safe sex.. report' few years ago about treatment,test to do etc... (I hope it's still there).
The chances you have to get Ghon. by a b.j. is extremely low ,
The ones you have to get genital Herpes by a b.j. is very high instead.
Do you really think having a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] after a sex intercourse it gonna help u ? No way. If you hit something sick without protections there's no [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] wich can help u.Better use condoms.
If you think u get something rule N° 1 : DON'T GO TO ANY SMALL CLINICS around in Pattaya, they're gonna charge you money for fake test,giving you some expired anthibiotics.
Go to Bangkok Pattaya Hospytal or International Hospytal (PIC).
I suggest you in the first one, Dr. Prasit (038,427777) he's a honest and good one , or if you want just have a check go to Chonburi at Chonburi Medical Center (038 792357) ask about Dr. Somyote.
Good luck.
SR,
I know Dau! She was my second soapy girl from May. She asked for 4000b in the room. I told her I only came with 1000b. She has a great body, wish I had a pic of her tits.
Bud
mongering1,
Yes that is Dau, she trys that with everyone I think, if you go for the high price then she is happy if not she takes the lower price and still provides great service. I do have a few pictures of her nude and will post one when I come across the disk that they're on. In any case she is a get time.
Sexreview
Hi! I agree mostly with Marco. I contracted genital herpes some 20 years ago from BBBJ from a cute college co-ed when I went through rush. Damn, it was the most painful and embarassing experience! My family doctor thought I had some strange african disease (he had just returned from peace corps volunteer) and my university doctors had no clue either. This was the start of the herpes epidemic and medical personnel were clueless. Anyways - now it's basically in remission, I rarely get outbreaks. Have never infected anyone else (that they mentioned) and took acylcovoir during its testing period for almost 3 years.S o - our fellow monger with the fever and swollen testicles. It sounds like a typical initial herpes outbreak. Some people react more strongly than others. Doubtful that he had clap at all. And the extra strength antis would do absolutely nothing! It takes about a week or 2 just to get feeling normal again which would confuse the treatment (and the white blood cell counts). SO, I suspect he never had clap, just a severe reaction to herpes virus. And there ARE many strains!! Some worse than others, just the common cold it is related to.
Upshot, you CAN get herpes from BBBJ, fingering from her pussy to your mouth or cock, or just about any saliva/fluid exchange. You can even give yourself herpes! That's right! Rubbing your mouth and hitting a cold sore, then touching your dick - BAM! Or worse - jacking off your infected cock then touching your eyes!
The cure for resistant clap is well known and works. There is no cure for herpes - you will suffer with it the rest of your life! And for the first few years, I do mean suffer! The first outbreak is a living hell (at least it was for me). Pain, fever, vomiting, tenderness, etc. Then followed by several weeks of blisters and itching like someone poured acid on your cock.
The upside: I don't worry about it so much now. Doubtful I can get it <again> And it did go into remission amazingly enough. But I watch my diet very carefully (alcohol can make it worse) and try to stay away from obivous new infection sources (bbbj only from regular and clean mouths)
Also, the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] trick doesn't work with herpes. It's transmitted by skin-to-skin contact. If she has herpes, chances are you do too!
Play safe, guys! I know it's a hassle,but reduce your risk by covering up!
Ciao!
Dear Sojourn
Thank you for your post here and the one on the Tokyo board telling us you fuck on my stroll. What are we (and I) to think of the fact that you have herpes and that you engage in unprotected sex?
Skinless,
If it wasn't for selfish, thoughtless people like Sojourn (and the one who bragged about BB anal creampie), the hobby wilbe lot more fun.
He knows that he has it, and if he had half a brain, he would know that he can pass it to the girl (and rest of us) even when he has no symptoms.
Yet he and many more like him go on with uncovered sex.
Totally disgusting!
What a damper on my first Pattaya/BKK trip.
SexReview,
You Da Man!!!
Great pics. Will definitely go to Pattaya on my next trip and I hope I'll get great pics like yours so I can share them with all here.
Are the girls pretty good with camera? Or do you have to tip them extra for taking pics?
Look forward to more pics from you - Better yet, looking forward to taking some pics myself.
Diver
Hi Skinless! I humbly beg your forgiveness for being honest! However, in contradiction to your flame:
1) Herpes is not <always> contagious - it is only contagious during the prodomal period. Pay attention to that and you are safe.
2) Over 90% of the world's population already has herpes - so you are probably carrying it yourself!
3) Given the number of infectious diseases aside from herpes, any personal contact carries risk of contraction. So maybe to play it absolutely safe you should grab a couple of your favorite hos -¡¡who have never fucked anyone else except John Skinless - and head for the plastic bubble.
Maybe I'm one of the few that had/have the guts to acknowledge the presence of this instead of covering up with negative tatemae. The first step to resolution is acknowledgement, desu ne? Who knows what you, John Skinless, are carrying in your Pandora's box? It could be something far worse than herpes?? After all, how many hos over how many years have you banged? And never any fluid contact, right? No broken condoms, no DATY w/o dam? no BBBJ? No fingering? Always perfectly covered, right? Gimme a break already with your self-rightousness.
Jaimito,
From your attitude, you seem to think that you have many years and multiple trips and the experience of 500+ thai women under your belt. I hardly think that's true, from the facts you present. Your saying to me that thai women tell me they do it for love and that I believe them? Dude, I hardly believe you have the time in Thailand to begin to school me. Guys like Freeler, have definitely more experiences and time in Thailand than most of us combined, even though I disagree with much of his definition of a good time on a budget. And no, I am not good looking by any means. Being here for over 3 wks. have not once heard, "hansum man, sit down please." I have been turned down a couple times because of girls saying "NO" to "smoke." Freelers information on geography, travel and life experiences are almost infinite. Your general info is good for some newbies, but so far is nothing I find new. In fact, I still stand by what I have said:"tipping hookers in Thailand is for suckers." This is not generally done and SHOULD NOT be done. You ensure good service by paying at the end of a session. These working girls are making more than an average persons weekly or monthly salary for lying on their back for an hour or less. If there is someone who deserves a tip, its the construction worker, or average joe who is eeking out a decent living, instead of choosing to be a prostitute. You forgot a couple other important reasons why guys go to Thailand to get laid- 4. Many of us have an "asian" fetish, thai girls can be tall, short, light skinned, dark, It is a candy store for hoor mongers! 5.Thai women have hard bodies and aren't fat bacon and mayonaise loving cows like western women. 5. after getting laid, lots to do like shopping, traditional massages, eating international or thai food very cheap, see a movie for a few bucks 6. Such a range of accomodation for every budget, always a great deal. 7. Thai body massages......can't get them in the states.
Hi guys,
I'm in Pattaya. Some of the girls here look extremely young. Maybe 15 or 16. My question is this if you are with one of these girls will someone call the police?Will the hotel you go to call the police? Do people here care or not?
Chiman
Howdy Bil. You'd have more people read your messages if you'd learn about inserting blank lines in your posts. Click on Posting Guidelines to the left for more details.
So if you've made lots of trips then you're the ultimate expert. Take Getting Tang for instance. He says he's made 15 or 17 trips. Yet he was acting like a rookie in most things that he posted.
There isn't much that I claim to be an expert on. I've given my reports on places I've been and women I've been with.
For someone who has seen 500+ Thai women, I would expect to find more reports and some pictures of these adventures. Instead there are attacks on other members and not much real contribution to the WSG.
Tips seem to be a real hot button for you. I think you were upset at Freeler for tipping 100 baht. What is worse? Paying 1500 baht for ST when she would have easily gone 1000 baht? Is giving a couple of hundred baht to a girl you negotiated down to 600, who blew your socks off, evil?
Let's get back to the discussion that this forum is for. Girls. Pedantic discussions only bring the whole thread down.
After I got rid of my thai chinese chick I headed for third road and the short-time bars there. Had one from Rubys - owned by a friend of mine. Girl looked nice but had a baby, still very nice body but the most important part of her body was HUGE. She said that she was horny too, but I had the impression that she just did what has to be done. Wasn't fun at all. Won't ever take her again.
After that I had to go to Buriram for some family business. Was too busy to look for any girls there and went back to Pattaya as soon as possible.
After returned I was walking at soi 7 were I found a nice 18 yrs old. Very nice attitude, talks a lot and really seems to like me. Had her for two days, was very sweet, 163 cm, 53kg, nice face, a very nice and sexy body. Likes to get it done but I need fresh flesh so I quit with her.
Went to soi 6 and had a 22yrs from one of the bars. Very slim body, 162 cm, 48 kg, small breasts and nice attitude. No complaints even after pumping her for over an hour. 500 baht for the services provided.
On my way back to second road I suddenly saw a real young girl sitting at the side. Seemed to be very shy, so I went inside with her to talk a bit. She told me that she just started about a month ago, didn't want to work like this but she has to, cause she owes the mamasan some money. Mamasan also told her how to act, what to do and even to shave her pubic hair !
She was 18 yrs old, 162 cm, 54 kg, small breasts and very unexperienced in bed. No BJ, she does not like it and therefore I did not force or asked for it. Wasn't much fun, she could only come once and almost did not move, somewhat like a dead fish. Gave her 500 baht but won't come back.
After that I headed to soi 8 were a girl-friend of my thai chinese said hello to me and asked me to sit down at the bar. My former GF was also there so I sat down and finally decided to take her again. Her skills in bed were unmatched - not only at this journey. She really likes me and also loves to have sex. She has the ability for multiple orgasms which makes me really horny. So we went to Marine Plaza to party. Went home afterwards and had great sex. Next night same game. But that night - which was my last one at this trip - I tried to get a bit drunk with her just for fun. Usually I avoid alcohol and any drunken girls but when she is drunk she is even better in bed. No sleep or even trouble, just sex without any limits.
So I had at least 5 tequilas, 4 B52, 6 mekong coke and a few beers, three waterpipes (chi chas) but with almost no effect. Went home and finally found out that the alcxohol seemed to have an effect on me, little Traveler was strong as usual but I couldn't come ! We did it until we were exhausted and when we looked at the watch we found out that I had pumped her for at least 2 and a half hours. Couldn't believe it and wanted to rest a bit to try again later but she - even though she was exhausted too after lots of orgasms - started to play with little Traveler to bring him back to live. She was succesful and after another half an hour it was done. So all in all a great night and no regrets that I took her again. The next morning she even organized a cheap taxi for me and wanted to bring me to the airport. Real nice.
Will be back in Dec. and probably taking her again.
Over and out.
With all your alcohol intake, I'm surprised you could even walk! If you know the names of all the places (and girls) post them please. I always like to have some places on my list to check out the next time I'm in Pattaya.
While taking a "new" girl has some benefits (not a hardened pro yet), the service is usually subpar at best. Some of my best times have been with 25-30 year old women.
there is a bangkok hotel thread, but is there a pattaya hotel thread? i didn't see it.
freeler referred me to a map, and to stay anywhere in soi 7 or 8 area. so i am looking at those.
does anyone know, off the top of their heads, about a 4-5* friendly hotel, near, or in the middle of action?
yes, i will did a search as well, but for now, my vision is blurring from watching the monitor since this info is pretty rep001tered.
thanks.
Badass,
I don't think they qualify as 4 or 5 star, but both Flippers and both Eastiny's are good enough. About B700-1000, depending on season. Some say that Eastiny Place is better than Eastiny Inn.
The HighFive, on the corner of Soi8 and 2ndRoad, is cheaper at B550.
There is also Sunbeam, next to HighFive, they claim 5 star status, But I've never been inside and don't know if they are 'girlfriendly'.
Google for the hotels' websites.
Another one of the girls from Sabai Land Massage, I could visit this place very afternoon I think. Same as the others here 1500 baht for 90 minutes complete service.
What Soujourn said about herpes is true !
The fact someone get it DOES NOT MEAN HE'S CONTAGIOUS all the time. You can be contagious only if you got the outbreaks on your genital area.(So it's not a big deal if you got the outbreaks only 2 or 3 times a year.)
HSV is not like HIV or HSC.Many people writing on this board probably are already HSV infected but they don't know.
If you have a strong immunitary system you won't never develop any outbreaks.
You can easily check doing HSV type 1 and 2 antycorps test.
The bad thing about herpes is that once you have the outbreaks (sort of blisters on your skin) ,they can be an easy carrier of any worst infection such as HIV,Siphilys etc....
Sorry Marco that's not completely accurate.
True, one can get a blood test, and many people who have antibodies to HSV-1 or 2 will never express the virus (become symptomatic). But the idea that one can only become infected when a partner has an outbreak is false. It has been shown repeatedly that people who are asymptomatic can shed virus before or after an outbreak (the term is asymptomatic shedding).
http://www.aegis.com/pubs/aidsline/1986/nov/M86B0095.html
http://www.aafp.org/afp/20000901/tips/2.html
http://www.annals.org/cgi/content/full/125/9/776
For myself, the take home message is that if you are going uncovered you probably have been exposed. The good news is that few of us will actually have the lesions. Most people already have antibodies to HSV-1 or 2 so the damage has been done.
The other poster about Gonorrhea is also incorrect. Gonorrhea has developed very resistant strains to antibiotics that used to be effective (in the fluoroquinalone class such as Cipro). Unfortunately much of the resistant gonorrhea is found in SE Asia.
http://www.hon.ch/News/HSN/514094.html
http://www.cdc.gov/od/oc/media/pressrel/fs2k0922a.htm
Interestingly enough, Syphillis is still very sensitive to it's old nemesis Penicillin.
I WAS correct about the highly resistant strain of Gonorrhea in Pattaya. You can call Pattaya hospital yourself and ask. There they treat 15-35 cases PER DAY for Gonorrhea alone. The resistant strain has also increased dramatically. I spoke with the STD clinics Doctor's assistance who spoke fluent English. She told me they have actually had cases there of tourist dying from this strain of Gonorrhea because it spread inward violently and caused severe internal infections, spreading through the blood to other areas of the body causing death! Looks like my friend narrowly escaped this fate. She told me about 10% of the new cases they get in Pattaya require hospitalization for treatment via IV antibiotics! I don't know about you people, but someone should call in the CDC and have this looked into. If it is true, and people are actually starting to die from Gonorrhea then this information needs to be told to possible mongers.
GETTINGTANG~!
Let's please also make an important distinction between Herpes Simplex I and II. Contrary to what Soujourn said, 90% of the world's population has not been exposed to HSV, and most especially not HSV II, which is the strain he's carrying -- genital herpes. Even the absolute highest estimates of exposure in the US, which has pretty much the worst rate world-wide, are around 80%, [i]but that's for HSV I[/i]. Simplex I generally manifests as cold sores or fever blisters around or in the mouth. Simplex II is generally what people are worries about, and that's the one usually transmitted via sexual contact and called genital herpes. (There is a small amount of crossover between the two.)
Most estimates say the percentage of those infected by genital herpes or HSV II are between one in six and one in four, with the percentage rising with age (naturally, since it's incurable.) Similar rates are found in most of northern Europe and in Africa. It's absolutely true that lots of people never manifest symptoms at all, but a) there's really no way of telling whether or not someone's going to be that kind of person, and b) the lack of symptoms doesn't mean they can't transmit the disease.
So, Soujourn, there are still a vast majority out here who have every reason to be concerned about the possibility of HSV infection. And, while yes, you are more infectious when you have lesions, Poobah is absolutely correct that you can also transmit via asymptomatic (or subclinical) shedding of cells when you don't have an outbreak. In fact, because you exhibited symptoms, a lot of research says you're far more likely to be someone who sheds often and is more infectious. And such shedding happens randomly, typically three to ten days in the year. So while the risk is minimal, it still does exist, as one can't tell when those days are.
Bottom line -- if you're running around HSV II positive and going bareback then you're at best an inconsiderate jerk, as you're rolling dice with your partner's safety. If you were doing the same thing with HIV we'd consider you a felon.
Just reading all these posts makes my balls shrink! I guess it's time to get tested again. I normally get tested once a year, but how I hate that Q-tip down the tip.
Well all this talk about testing is great but lets get back to the girls and where to find them. Here is another one of the soapy massage girls from Sabai Land Massage. Lots of fun and unrushed service agian 1500 baht 90 minutes.
Sexreview
Here is one from Sabai Land Massage if you like a larger chest. And yes she did have a little help with her shape about 65,000 baht worth of enlargements. The service was good and the price was right at 600 baht for the soapy and a 1000 baht tip for full service.
Sexview
SR,
Thanks for the pics! No offense to others, but the pics posted before, IMHO, did not really represent the quality of women I seen when I was there. Of course to each his own, and of course I am not one to criticize since I haven't posted any pics YET.
Bud
3 days...
Joe, while HSV-1 has been (and still is) predominately oral, about 30% of genital cases are HSV-1 while about 10-15% of all oral cases are HSV-2. In the past it was assumed that HSV-1 and 2 were confined to one part of the body. This is not correct.
I think your figures on positivity are a little off, but the last time I reviewed it was for US only. I believe (and would have to check) that seropositivity for HSV-1 is about 80-90% while HSV-2 is about 30% (general population, higher risk groups may be greater).
I haven't heard of someone dying from gonorrhea. Usually untreated gonorrhea involves joint and skin problems. Even the resistant strains respond to Rocephin (ceftriaxone) which can be given IV but usually is a single IM (intramuscular) injection. There is a related strain (neisseria menningitis) which is one of the causes of bacterial menningitis which can cause death but this is different.
Poo,
A good buddy of mine that lives in PI came down with menningitis last month. He was in the hospital for a couple weeks and now has little use of his right arm and his mental health is questionable now. I didn't know this could be a possible STD related illness. Thanks for the info.
The thing that worries me the most about gonorrhea is that my doctor said it can be transmitted by a bbbj.
On herpes, I get fever blisters at least twice a year. One day after barebacking my GF, my dick had red spots all over it. They were not painful or itchy in any way, just looked bad. I went to my doctor and he took a quick look and said it was a yeast infection. I would have hugged the guy, but my pants were down! lol He gave me a pill and some cream. Problem is, since this I have come down with a yeast infection two more times in six months. I went to a different doctor the second time and she said it was a yeast infection as well, but only gave me the cream. One possiblity, with me anyway, is that I'm not circumsized. I know now that this can lead to yeast infections as well.
Bud
poo,
I'm not one to questions your knowledge of diseases as you seem to have a vast amount of knowledge. I'm wondering if perhaps scare tactics might be the motive behind some of the information I received from other mongers and health providers in Pattaya itself . After-all the lady I spoke with via phone, was very well spoken, knowledgeable and spoke as fluent of English as you or I, but the key element is. "she was a female". Often professional type females are very resentful against us mongers or jealous of bar girls. They may be liberalized to the point of feminism and have a deep hatred for us mongers coming to her country and paying for sex. However her explanation behind what she told me sounded quite logical. She said, the bacteria has become excessively aggressive and resistant, and would often spread into and infect the blood. Not just the tissue. This would allow the resistant bacteria to attach to internal organs including the heart and in some cases the lungs causing heart and or respiratory failure in extreme cases. (this was exactly how she put it to me) She said this form of blood infection was very rare, but the form of gonorrhea requiring hospitalization was becoming very common in Pattaya. She said we are sending home 15-35 patients per day with the usual Cipro dose for treatment and about 10% are coming back with worsened symptoms and having to be checked in for treatment.
This could lead to a massive crackdown and closure of mongering water holes if they don't get this under control soon. My planed trip in December will now involve covering me pecker even for BJs!
GETTINGTANG~!
GT, I wanted to clarify that Neisseria Menningitis and Neisseria Gonorrhea are two different animals. NM is not an STD.
The only case where I can see someone dying of Neisseria G. is from a woman who gets PID (pelvic inflammatory disease) then lets it go to the point where it becomes overwhelming and kills her. There isn't really a male collary to this, but anything is possible.
Anyways, I realize I am contributing to this section becoming off-focus. I will confine my comments to the 'safe sex' section.
To do my part to get back on track, here's a personal photo of mine from Thailand....
GT,
Covering for a BJ? Where the hell is Freeler now?
Bud
Mongering1,
I'm at home, thanks for reminding me:(, all confused.
Isn't this the P A T T A Y A page?
If you think I don't cover for a BJ you're wrong; I always do.
Only ONE girl ever (Angeles City) denied me a covered BJ and she went out the door, no payment.
Poobah -- getting numbers on this is to some degree an apples and oranges equation. Obviously, the further you move up the age scale the higher the percentage, so the more you screen out the younger side of the equation the higher the percentage goes. The CDC says the percentage of HSV-2 infection in the US is about 1 in 5 of the total adolescent and adult population, and most of the other independent places I've looked (no figures older than 2001) say at most 25% of the sexually active population. Some of the drug sites I've seen have estimates as high as 40%, but I tend to question their objectivity. Yes, specific groups vary -- for example, the HSV-2 infection rate is much higher in blacks (46%) than in whites (17%) and the usual socio-economic factors apply.
As I understand it, HSV-1 genital infections are almost always caused by oral-genital contact, and the rates of this vary greatly by locale -- with Japan and the UK, for example, long having a very high rate of it as a total percentage of genital HSV infections. You might be right that it's risen in the US, but most of the citations I've seen have put the percentage of genital infection by HSV-1 far lower than 30% -- mostly about 1 in 10.
GT, there certainly may be some scare tactics going on, but it's also very true that there are nasties out there, and it pays to be informed so you can decide for yourself the degree of risk you're willing to take. I've read that an uninfected person has a 75% chance of contracting herpes during contact with someone who's actively shedding the virus, with one in six carriers thought to shed occasionally without symptoms. If I presume that I'm good enough to avoid those with visual symptoms, that half of all TG's I'm with are carriers, and that my risk comes from the 1/6th of them who are randomly shedding HSV virus ten days a year, then my chances of coming in contact and getting infected are in the range of 0.17% every unprotected sexual encounter. So if I'm screwing a dozen TGs on vacation my risk of being infected with HSV-2 under that equation is about 2%, with the risk being cumulative (4% for two dozen women, 17% per hundred, etc.) Obviously, I can cut that with condom use.
I also promise that's my last note on this -- the safe sex thread is really where this belongs, and thanks again to SexReview for his pics -- I completely agree with mongering1 that they're more representative than some of the others.
Freeler,
So, you sent an AC girl home with no payment? We all know she got her payment with the barfine, 50/50, AC is a pay before system. No sense in splitting hairs though.
You made the rest of them suck rubber? I am lost for words now. Now it is a little more clear how you get by on less money than the average. lol Just joking with you, of course you know that!
Bud
hi jaimito
i do remember all the names and places, i also got pics and even mobile phone numbers but i won't put them on the net.
first, i respect the girls and their privacy, would you like that anybody makes your phone number public on the net and places a pic beside it so you could easily been identified as a hooker ?
second, some of these girls are less than 20 yrs old which could cause some probs for them if this info reaches the wrong places.
third, some guys would probably talk about the infos i gave here and therefore the girls could easily identify myself and go angry on me instead of giving me another perfect shot.
so just a hint, check uk bar at soi 7 and sexy bar at soi 8. it seemed to me, that some chicks are working like freelancers instead at the bar where you can find them most of the time.
i had to pay a bar fine when i picked them at the bar, but no barfine when we just went party or when i took them then.
one more thing, most of you guys think checking the id will give you 100% security of not taking an ****d girl. wrong.
many girls carry the id of a friend or a relative for entering discos, so as long as you don't know her real name and can't read thai
you will never know.
have fun
The Traveller - Well, I'm not asking for their fingerprints, but a bar location and a name would be nice. I mean, most of the good information we get here is by being specific. I can understand if you don't want to publish pictures. It's not for everyone. I, for instance, usually only publish clothed, or semi-clothed women.
I've had many Thai girls ask, "You put on internet" and I'll say "yes", and they don't have a problem with it.
Jaimito,
Things are changing so fast in Pattaya, a girl that works at a specific bar today might be gone the very next day. Since taste differs, you might like girls with big breasts and due to your own size bigger bodies but this is just the opposite of what I like. Therefore I think everybody should look for himself and only attitude matters when recommending a chick. Even this might be different for you, cause I treat the girls my way and you do it your way. So any specific info about a girl might be already outdated on your next arrival.
Furthermore I believe that we have a totally different taste. I have seen a few pics you posted and - without any insult or criticism - I got to say that I wouldn't have picked any of those.
Anyway, if you really want to check some of those girls I have mentioned, try Wi at UK Bar in soi 7. Great attitude, nice face, very young.
Also Na at Sexy Bar in Soi 8 has a great attitude. She picked a few chicks and made great advertisement for me when we went to different discos.
Ning at the same bar is a very calm one with a beautiful face, very small body, easy to handle. Usually she has long term relations which prove her qualities.
Also Aoy at Tilac Bar in soi cowboy bangkok is worth to check. She had #28 as far as I remember. She loves sex and told me that I can have a shot whenever I want to. Sounds great to me, but I matched her specs 100%, might be different for you.
Have fun
Jaimito,
Like I said, you have no right to try to scold me and give me advice on how to better myself in this forum. You don't have the experience or knowledge yet accumulated, so don't act like your the teacher and I'm under your tutellage. Its embarassing for you. And I, like the previous poster have exactly the opposite taste on women than you and would never take them or give them a 1 baht tip. What good does it do? Will it help you get laid? Maybe for you it will. You remember, this is not the West. Tipping will get you nothing, but will raise prices for the next guy. Meaning the girl will think if YOU gave her extra money, maybe she can get away with more. Back to Pattaya info: The brand new hotel adjacent to the Lek hotel, 2nd road has very decent rooms for 500baht. Roomy, near the action. On soi Post Office, the Thip hotel has remodeled their rooms and for 350 baht, their clean, a/c/ fridge and 19" tv is a great budget value for the location. Checked out a motorcycle dealer on 3rd road, and was told if you purchased a scooter, they will store it for you upstairs for 6 months for 500baht, for when you leave Thailand. Beach road is the way to go guys! Last night found a gem amongst the old coals. A new comer, spoke very little english, but the translater was sitting there. 20 yrs old, hard, firm titts and ass, slim and tall for a Thai girl, in front of the Royal Garden Plaza 7pm, 500baht. Before leaving,she asked for 100 baht extra for food. No. Then 50 baht for taxi. No. I gave her a ride back on my scooter.
Mongering1,
"We all know she got her payment with the barfine"
Nope, freelancer!
Bil,
right, I would never take them or even consider to do so.
Wrong, I would tip them if they provide any (of course non sex) service for me.
I can't see any reason why a tip should raise prices.
Poobah
What a little cutie you posted! I wish I could buy a ticket today. Oh well, I have to wait til next year for more vacation time. But I'd better start putting some pennies aside. I might want to LT her for couple of days. [insert evil grin here]
Let's see, a couple dozen condoms, a vibrator, and a large supply of Vitamin V for this FUBO and I'll be finding my way through LOS like a blind man with a built-in cane!
Hey, has anyone tried the Vuka-Vuka supplement? Yeah, I know you young guys don't need it, I didn't either for decades, but time takes its toll and it becomes a matter of interest.
Tatoosh
SexReview and Traveller,
Seems to me that you guys are in Pattaya now.
What hotels are you in and how is the service?
Thanks.
Are there any clubs similar to the Eden Club (Bangkok) in Pattya?
I love this whole "yellow line" idea:D.
Traveller - Well, I like all kinds of girls, except for the fake breast enlarged type. Thailand is a cornucopia of interesting girls for me.
(General rant, not to Traveller) I've had the best time, and found the best girls through recommendations from members here. Don Gordo in the Costa Rica section told me about some very nice chicas there, and they were the best I'd ever experienced there.
Jackson, Elvis, Exon and Mickey Mouse in Argentina were a great bunch of guys. They'd give nice recommendations, and not blow a lot of smoke, like in some other sections.
I've been posting since the Atta days on WSG and I've always had the attitude that you have to give to receive. Many members don't post often, or just post enough to get Senior Status these days.
WSG has saved me thousands of dollars and led me to experiences that I probably never would have found on my own. Ranting and getting into flame wars don't accomplish anything. We're here to talk about women and perhaps living or travelling in different locations.
I'm thinking about packing a carry on only for my trip to Pattaya next week. I only wear sandals, so no need for shoes. How many of you do this? I'll only be there for 6 nights, so I figure six shirts and shorts plus toiletries. I hope to buy some clothes there, if I get too much I'll buy a bag to check in. Since there is no in room internet I will leave my laptop home.
The main reason for my question is many guys talk about dressing up at night for some reason. I have only worn pants in SEA one time, and even then could have gotten by with shorts. I don't plan on hitting the discos or go to any temples.
I figure with only a carryon, I will be able to breaze through customs and the airport in general. Plus if I decide to change hotels it would be much easier. I might even do a sidetrip for a couple nights to Cambodia. My budget is so tight that I don't plan on much shopping at all.
Bud
Mongering1, i never check luggage when travelling to Asia. i wear shorts and short sleeve shirts at tnight, and once in a great while a pair of jeans. TGs are used to falangs wearing shorts, as they realize it is much hotter than at home, and they really don't care. What they DO care about is what is inside your shorts. (on either side of your dick).
if you go shopping, you can get a small bag for next to nothing, and stil only have carry on.
1ball
guys, i have abt a 5 days layover in LOS in a couple of weeks. have never made it to Pattaya, and want to go hang by a pool, and read a book by day, and check out the action by night.
I have read nearly all the posts, and many reccomensations on hotels, but i still have a question.
i am looking a for a resort style hotel, nice big pool, restaurant, on the beach, near the action, girl friendly. don't really care abt cost, within reason of course. don't really want a 5 story walk up, but rather something spread out.
any thoughts?
thanks
1ball
Badass
well, I am just back from a two weeks trip to LOS. Maybe next time. I recommend Sabai Inn at Soi 2 for 800 baht or Sunshine Vista Serviced Apartment for 1.300 baht at Soi 3. Both are girl-friendly, very clean and very nice staff. The latter got a nice bathroom with separated shower and bathtub. Extremely clean, best maids I have seen so far.
Jaiimito
I wasn't ranting or flaming and don't want to start a discussion over this. It's useless and doesn't lead to anything.
My point was, that you seemed to like different types of girls than I do. You can't argue about taste and therefore I don't. Furthermore I spend quite some time with those girls and I have seen them rejecting better looking guys than you (have only seen a pic of your pants, but it talks for itself). So telling you who and where won't help you. Nevertheless I gave you some names and locations, so what's your prob.
I also believe that you have to give to receive, it's just fair. Info about hotels, brothels, MP's, transportation and so on can be quite valuable for a newbie, but info about a specific girl won't bring you far. She might have moved, went home, got a long term relation or even don't like your looks or attitude or she might act differently when being with you. Therefore I will provide infos about how and where to find girls but no specifics about a certain one.
I think enough said about that issue, let it end here.
Have fun
1ball
You can't have both, close to the beach and close to the action, since beach means - at least for me - Jomtien beach, which is a few minutes drive from south Pattaya. If you don't mind the busy and small Pattaya beach, the Dusit Resort, Amari or Montien should fulfill your needs. They are all located at Pattaya beach between Central and North Pattaya. That way you can jump on a baht bus and reach the action within a minute. All those hotels have 4 to 5 international stars. I never had a prob to get a girl upstairs - but that was many years ago - and I kept low profile.
Thai Garden at North Pattaya road might be a alternative, but I don't like the rooms, a bit worn down and compared to other hotels too expensive for the provided quality. Also not close to the beach and almost no taxis at night. Sugar Hut on the road leading to Jomtien beach, just in the middle between beach and south Pattaya, might also worth to look at. It's not at the beach but it got very beautiful decorated thai style bungalows and nice swimming pools. But keep in mind that they will rip you off at night in case you need a taxi.
Avoid the Hard Rock, totally overpriced, definately not girl-friendly and too loud for my taste. I like it calm at the pools to relax, but there is always horrible action. Also avoid on all costs the Twin Palms, it's very dirty. I know a few people who got skin diseases from the dirty sheets and blankets.
Hope it helps.
The_Traveller,
thanks it helps a bit, but what abt the ones in your previous post? immediately preceeding your anwser to me.
just don't want to find myself in the same situation as i was many years ago, on my first trip to Phuket. stayed in Kata, and had to take a taxi for 20 minutes or so to Patong to find action.
If you had to reccomend just one, which wouuld it be, and is this walk in price or online booking? you mention the sunshine vista. is that also well located for the action?
Thanks
1ball
Traveller!!!
next time buddy...after i make some more money here in China, I'll be there with ya...
Did u stay at the Penthouse again?
tapioca
1ball,
Traveling light is not a bad way to go, but if you are one of the first few people going through US Customs you increase your chances of being stopped by them. I take a pair of sneakers with me if I was you, open sandals are great but at nigh in the dark closed sneakers offer more protection for your feet. I always travel with short pants, and only wear long pants on the plane coming or going from the winter weather. You really don’t save much time as Bangkok Airport is really fast with checked bags.
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Close to the beach,
If you want to be close to the beach for a swim, Jomtiem beats Pattaya.
But if you want to be close to the beach for the the breeze and the sound of the waves Pattaya beats Jomtiem because of the plain and simple fact that Pattaya has way more action than Jomtiem.
Traveling light,
I went to numerous countries traveling light and I never got checked at customs anywhere.
Traveller - The first couple of lines were to you, the rest was general ranting. Sorry if you thought I was flaming you. The odds of me seeing a girl from your recommendations are obviously lower in Thailand (as opposed to locales with less working girls) that other places, but it's nice to have a short list of girls/places to check out.
My main point was that I like almost all kinds of girls. When you look at how many views a particular picture has, you know there are lots of guys who actually go to Thailand and never post a thing. (And then there's the 90% of viewers who are just looking for naked girls).
Mongering - You'll save 5-10 minutes at the airport. It's a pretty painless airport to arrive in. If you do buy a lot of stuff, you can find plenty of cheap bags to take home. Many airlines have changed their weight allowance (50 pounds max), but I doubt you'd buy that much stuff.
just left bkk 10/02. stayed 2 weeks first visit and had a great time. stayed at the pres solitaire. going back 02/24 for a month. will probably take a side trip for a few days.
my question is, are there any hotels in pataya with inroom high speed internet?
thanks
International rules still set the weight limit per bag at 70 pounds. Even the US carriers that have gone to 50 pounds for domestic must allow 70 for international flights. Also, most airlines still gives members of their flyer programs the higher weight limits on all flights.
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IATA weight limit is set to 20kg
1ball
I would choose the Dusit Resort over the Amari or the Jomtien. It is just what you are looking for. Only downpart might be a joiner fee, but not sure about that. Due to the size of all three, even sneaking in with a girl shouldn't cause a prob as long as the girl is dressed accordingly (no extreme shorts or ultra sexy). Usually security does not dare to stop you with a girl
Dusit Resort - no actual fee known
Amari published rates effective nov. 1st
Superior 125 - 135 US
Deluxe + 30 US
Loggia + 55 US
Junior Suite + 145 US
The Montien official rates
Standard (mountain view) 3000 baht
Superior (sea view) 4000 baht
Executive Superior (sea view) 4500 baht
Executive Deluxe /sea view) 5500 baht
Family Suite (1 bedroom) 7000 baht
Presidential Suite (1 bedroom) 12000 baht
Imperial Suite (1 bedroom) 15000 baht
there are more suites with 2 and 3 bedrooms
Try to book over the net, much cheaper rates available. Also Royal Cliff is an option. They charge you a joiner fee of 600 baht per chick and night but they have special offers right now. You can get a Mini Suite - 1 bedroom, 2 bathrooms, 1 living/dining room, 2 balconies, free newspaper/fruit basket - for 46 US per person/2 days or in other words 46 US per day. That is a very good price for a international 5 star hotel which is still one of the 10 best hotels in the world.
My recommendation still is the Sunshine Vista in Soi 3. It has two small pools on the roof. Most people who stay there work in thailand. So very calm and not very busy. Just spent two weeks there. nice bathroom, not huge but separated shower from the bathtub. Also the washbasin is separated. Superior with King size bed, mini bar (small fridge), cable/satellite tv, phone, aircon, electronic in room safe will cost you 1400 baht walk in. Try to get them over the net or through your travel agent. Might be cheaper. Hotel is brand new (9 months) and very very clean. They clean the rooms till 4 pm, so if you like to stand up late, no prob. They also provide a late check out till 6pm free of charge. If you bring chicks you have to book a double - no joiner fee then. They will only ask for ID of the girls but even this can be avoided. They did with my chicks only once till they realized that I don't want it. Staff is extremely friendly and free of hassle. BIG C is directly opposite in walking distance of 1 min. baht buses too.
Only downturn is, that close by are two construction sites right now. One is the extension of the A-One Hotel. The view therefore isn't very nice, but I felt never disturbed by the noise. Windows are sufficient against the noise and it is not loud at all. Avoid room 703, aircon is very loud when the compressor switches off.
Hope it helps
Tapioca
great to hear from you again.
Got your mail and saw the pics. Nice chicks over there. I like the one with the curly hair !
Maybe I will come to china once. you got to be my guide then.
Nope, haven't been at the penthouse. After I had seen the cockroaches beeing in my bed and even fridge I won't stay there again till they solve this problem. Also the maids have to change their attitude. They are friendly but lazy. Dropped a flower on the floor to check if they clean the floors as well. After 5 !!! days the flower was gone, so they only change sheets and towels but not the floor or the bathroom.
Do you contribute at the china section ?
Drop me a mail. See ya and
Have fun
chiman
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i'm in pattaya. some of the girls here look extremely young. maybe 15 or 16. my question is this if you are with one of these girls will someone call the police?will the hotel you go to call the police? do people here care or not?
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thais usually look younger than they are to a certain age, but you are right, there are many ****d (below 20) girls around.
the answer to your question is : maybe.
usually the hotel won't loose a customer, therefore the leave it up to you, but if someone at the reception, who might keep the id of the girl don't like you, you can be in trouble.
so better check ids before you pick a girl. now is 2546 in thailand so any girl born after 2426 can cause trouble. but beware, many girls carry ids of relatives or close friends with them so they can enter the discos. check the pic on the id and ask questions like when did they finish school, how many years in school, where did they work before and so on. then add all the infos up and you come close to their age.
have fun
Thanks, Traveler.
Seems that the nicer hotels are not worth the trouble.
I read your report about cockroaches at Penthouse some time ago. Too bad!! I haev never stayed at a place like this, Too cheesey, but wouldn't mind staying there for 2 days (minus the roaches).
Has anyone stayed there recently? How are the roaches?
I hate to ask this again, but are there any places like the Eden in Bangkok?
Badass
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I hate to ask this again, but are there any places like the Eden in Bangkok?
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Not to my knowledge.
HappyWorld (close to Chonburi) or Manola (in Rayong) might be worth to look at if you like MPs.
I used to have great times - sometimes with dozen of chicks - at HappyWorld. Great interaction between the girls too, but will cost you a shit load full of money.
Have fun
Traveler,
Checked luggage weight remains at 70 pounds on all international flights on American Airlines, NWA, Continental Airlines, United Airlines, Eva Air, Singapore Air, CP, etc. But in fact at least on the Bangkok end they don't care if the bags are overweight. Once the airline takes the bag it doesn't matter if it is overweight or not the will fly it to the final point.
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Badass
Bugs are a fact of life in SE Asia, even the best hotels have problems with them. I’ve been at the Penthouse several times over the last six months and never had a problem with bugs. Below is a photo of a standard room at The Penthouse Hotel.
About places like Eden in Pattaya. Try the bars on Soi 6 like the King Kong, any number of the many short time places on Soi 6 will give you services like Eden Club at half the cost of Eden.
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thank you so much, The_Traveller, you have been a great help.
will let you know what happens if I go.
1ball
SexReview
Don't know about american airlines and their weight limits for luggage. Just know that IATA limit is set to 20 kg. Most airlines accept 25kg without extra payment and with frequent traveler status or business class you might get 30+kg.
Sure any airline or connection flight will transport your luggage after it is checked in whether it is overweight or not.
SexReview, Badass
Sure, insects of all kinds are a fact of life in all tropic regions in the world. Sometimes you can even find some in 4-5 stars hotels no doubt about that. But the latter are quiet rare occasions. Never saw a bug in any of the high class hotels I have been in thailand or even the cleaner middle class like the Sabai Inn in over 20 yrs now.
I wouldn't mind if there would have been just one or two roaches running through the room. But I saw many of them, running over my bed what I really hate and one also went into the fridge. They usually stay behind those wooden parts of the upper cupboards.
I was talking about that issue with the manager who claimed that he had some trouble with his pest control company. He doubts that they use only plain water instead of pesticides. Nevertheless, the maids don't work well too, like I proved through the flower I had dropped. They also never clean the dolls and pillows on the bed.
Maybe I had just bad luck with my room or maybe you didn't recognize them. They hide when you enter the room or turn on light. I have seen them on a daily basis and would have changed immediately but payed in advance (first time and will never do again) to get a better rate.
Rooms are decorated very nice and girls like them too. It should be mentioned that unless you take a mini-suite or up (1200+ baht) the bathrooms are extremely small, some especially in the cheaper rooms could hardly be called a bathroom.
They also have no pool (was under construction in April). More of a jacuzzi on floor four or five as far as I remember. Also parking a bike will be hard at soi Pattayaland. Parking of a car is impossible at all times. It's also a bit noisy due to the gogo downstairs and the others opposite.
My advice, check it for one or two nights and move as soon as you are not satisfied.
SexReview
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About places like Eden in Pattaya. Try the bars on Soi 6 like the King Kong, any number of the many short time places on Soi 6 will give you services like Eden Club at half the cost of Eden.
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Definately not.
Eden provides costumes and dildos, they also enforce two girls at a time and even greek style is available. Girls in Eden are really hardcore and will do whatever you want. Also rooms are better equipped and cleaner.
The bars at soi 6 are just bars with rooms upstairs. No costumes, no dildos. Most of the girls don't do anal too. Also rooms differ extremely in quality. Most rooms share just one shower, no porn video. Beds have been used for years, easy to see. Sheets are hardly changed after each session. Girls often use to stay in these rooms, just look at the belongings and clothes which are in the room.
I am really no friend of Eden bar in BKK, but it has definately a higher quality and provide different/better services.
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I forgot, most important girls are just bar-girls, not as hardcore as Eden girls.
If you can find a couple, good, but no guarantee that it will be as good as Eden and that there will be any interaction between the girls. Also take in count that every girl has its own limits. Eden girls have no known limits :-)
The_Traveler,
You will find the same level of service in the Soi 6 short time bars. And the fact is Eden Club has closed all the rooms within the club. As for the quality of girls the Soi 6 girls beat it hands down. Also the price will be much less on Soi 6. I don't know about you but I've been able to get better service and girls at Soi 6.
Sexreview
in the news - pattaya mail - crackdown?
banglamung district chief surprises followers by “only” warning 3rd road bar owners
could officials finally be “turning over a new leaf”?
boonlua chatree
at 2:45 a.m. on october 1, surapol thiensuwan, banglamung district chief led a troop of voluntary officials and a squad of pattaya police to inspect restaurants and bars that might be violating the legal closing hour and serving alcohol to **** youths in the pattaya third road area.
after visiting the already closed dance fever in soi jirapol, the group of officials moved on to the rhino pub and found a huge flock of people still drinking in and outside the venue after legal hours. the district chief did not make any big scene, but only called the owner over to give him a warning.
the group then visited the beer hima bar on the pattaya third road, which was also still open and serving alcoholic beverages. not far from the bar, they found two young men angrily wrestling in the middle of the street. police arrested the two hot-blooded youths and transferred them to police station. but surprisingly the district chief let the party of drinkers carry on, and again only gave the owner a warning.
a bigger surprise arose when the group stopped at roi paed phan kaew bar. they found big crowd of police officers and night beaters sitting and drinking even though it was now 3 o’clock in the morning. the owner of the place was called over for a warning and let go.
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On my last trip - just a few days ago - I had some of the soi 6 girls as reported below.
Can't tell if Eden has closed his rooms down, cause haven't been there.
The difference between soi 6 and Eden club is - besides costumes and dildos - that you got guaranteed interaction between the girls and every girl would do whatever you ask for (not all do anal though). The soi 6 girls differ, everyone has a different limit.
True, some of the soi 6 girls and their services can compare to the Eden girls, but these are usually the ones which used to be in the business for quiet a while. Even if overall quality regarding looks seem to improve at soi 6, they still aren't good looking to me, just like the Eden girls. Therefore you are right, if you pick the old ones who look like Eden girls then you might get serviced like you picked Eden girls :-)
As I said, most soi 6 girls won't do anal and quality of interaction between chicks is questionable. Everything else can be same but don't has to be the same, especially if you pick the younger or new ones like I use to do. As long as you don't take a total newbie you will be satisfied.
At least it is definately cheaper. Barfine including room for about an hour is 250. If you want to take a girl with you BF is 350. The girls expect an extra tip for the provided services of 500. Attitude is usually very good.
Have fun
Freeler
Only selling of beverages after 2am or 2:30am is forbidden. If guests are just still sitting at the bar, it is not violating the law. Anyway, you can buy drinks at almost every bar around the clock. I used to go to soi 8 with my chick to get some rice soup or noodles between 4am and 6am and we still got served drinks of any kind at any given bar.
There is definately no crackdown, police only enforces closing hours - which means turning out the lights - at most bars and the huge discos.
usual closing times for the discos
Marine Disco 2-2:30am
Marine Plaza 3:30am
Marine II 3:30 - 4am
Marine Plaza Lek 4 - 4:30am
Boom 5am
Haven't been to Excite, so no idea at what time they close.
Hollywood and Stardice 2-2:30am
The_Traveler,
You mentioned bar fines were 250 to 350 baht on Soi 6? I've only been to Pattaya a couple of times, and mostly stuck to Beach Road girls, but the few times I paid barfines they were 200 baht. This was in the last year. Do the barfines differ depending on the Soi or am I out of date? I can't remember but I may have gotten the 200 Baht down on Sois 2 and 3.
Also you said anal isn't easily available on Soi 6. I will be back in Pattaya in about a month. Where can one find anal? It seems there's probably a huge demand for this service. I'd be surprised given the volume of girls there that there aren't some that specialize. Guess its just hit or miss finding them?
On the so-called crackdown, which doesn't exist - hence the '?',
To people who actually r-e-a-d it, the article clearly shows there is NO crackdown.
Again: There is NO crackdown.
It's business as usual.
There have always been checks like the ones described in the article, and there always will be.
It is the definitely the same in your hometowns and in mine.
It's just that our hometowns probably don't have as many bars and gogo's as Pattaya:) and of course police, where we live, may in fact enforce a law, every now and then, when they feel like it:(.
Boy miss the WSG!
Could not use my computer since returning home from Pattaya,
WSG, those pop ups really killed my computer!
I be the first to omit that I don't contribute much to the forum,
my situation now is I can't run around like you other monger's
but I certainly read and learn alot from other's especially SA,
and Joe Z. I do much of my 3-Fs in Bangkok and Hong Kong.
But I have to contribute something on my last trip in Pattaya 30 days ago. I have a normal routine when I'm in Pattaya, let just say it'a like being in jail, can't butterfly! I went to the the Bank on 2nd Rd. one morning, usually go 15 minutes before it opens.This morning I was just sitting on the steps and reading, when a young lady came up the step's, my tongue dropped out and even at my age LittleBigMan, jump up like he had taken big V!
This women was wearing a nice sun dress, no stocking, and a sun hat, great body and legs! After a few minutes she of all people struck up a conversation with me, she wanted to know the time. Spoked very good english and came across to be very intelligent since she was asking me about the book I was reading.
As the bank open we continue to talk about things while we were waiting in line. She finished her business first and when I exit the bank she was standing there, like she was waiting for me. We continue to talk and it seem to me that she didn't want to leave. All the time we were talking I had to control LittleBigMan from jumping out of the zipper! Finally, I said I'm going to go eat breakfast at Apex Hotel, and would she like to join me. To my surprise she said yes! Throughout, the breakfast could not figure if she was a bargirl or what, but to make a long story short, there was alot of flirting going on and I ended up getting a room at the Apex. Times up will continue later!
LBM
Hi, this is my first post.
I've been to Pattaya and it's my favorite place in the world. But, I've never been there for more than a week, so I never worried about hotel prices before.
This time I'm going for six weeks in November. Suffice it to say, I don't want to break the bank on hotel prices.
Are there hotels that offer weekly or monthly rates? Or can I rent a condo or bungalow not far from things? I'm hoping for $5 -$15 a day, and air conditioning is a must. I'm not willing to "rough it."
What about the girls? Will they go with you to a rented place? Or only a hotel?
SR and Traveler,
Thanks fo All the info.
Will try to book the Penthouse for 2 nights.
Freeler posted
"On the so-called crackdown, which doesn't exist - hence the '?'"
The crackdown is real and is in effect now, just take a Walk down Walking Street and you can see that there is a crackdown. Most of the clubs the girls are covered. Frozen, Big Willies, Polo all have been closed for showing nude girls, Frozen in fact was not able to reopen and is now under a new name.
Asked the mangers at any of the major clubs and they will tell you that there is a crack down on now. Just because the Pattaya Police gave some warnings for staying open after hours doesn't mean that a crackdown is not on. And it will only get worse as we get closer to APEC. APEC has already affected Pattaya and no one really knows what will happen in the end.
Diamond A Go Go is a great little club on Soi Diamond. Below is a picture of May, taken a few months ago she really has a great set of headlights, the level of service was only average but very friendly in all other areas. The bar fine was 500 baht and 1000 baht short time and she was very happy. Can't wait to get back to Pattaya and the fun times.
LBM- Continue's
Got a room at Apex, but didn't have any condoms, gave her the key and I went outside of the hotel and a few doors down there was a convienance store! When I got back to the room she had the bath running and was watching T.V. I went over to the bed and sat down right next to her, looked at her and starting to kiss her, from there we started to take our clothes off and whow!
what a body and pair of legs LBM was standing straight up!
From the bath I got her to the bed and man oh man she was a aniamal in bed, it was like she had not had it for sometime, which I could not understand! I, DATY for at less 20 minutes and she just kept on pushing my head into her, we switch to the 69 position and went at it again! During this time I play with her ass and from her response I knew LBM was going to take care of that spot too! Finally, I got on the condom and she rode me like there was no tomorrow, I flipped her over and she was going crazy on me and started to scream and dig her nail into my back and trying to bit me! I had to stop her because I could not let her leave marks on me! I finally got her up and finished her from behind!
Man I could not believe this was happening! While I was laying there I could not help but to think only in LOS!
You guys are thinking right now, was she a bargirl, go go girl, or what? Well, finally I found out that she is married to a doctor that
works at the Pattaya Memorial and he works alot and might be
a butter fly! She just lonely!
I only have her name, no phone, nothing, except our arrangement is that if she wants to see me, she meets me at the bank. I visit there once a week same time same day. Since our first meeting we went at it for 3 straight weeks. Best sex I have ever had! I'm returning in a few weeks and I can't wait to visit the bank again!
Previously, I had read SA, comments about lonely wifes, now I know what the hell he is talking about!
LBM
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Crackdown ? That's something different for me. Nowadays only the laws are enforced which are already dating back to my very first days in LOS almost 20yrs ago. Would you call it a crackdown if existing laws in your homecountry are enforced by the police. No, just Law and Order. Same in LOS. Anyway, police is still bribed by bar owners. A friend of mine owns a bar in Soi 6 and at third road. He tells me that he still got to pay for not being disturbed by the police. Sure, they also had some legal stuff to do. The bar downstairs is owned by one company, the rooms upstair by a different one. That's it.
Have fun
Freeler, absolutely agree...but FYI:
I attempted to copy part of your post here to make the message more clear, but I guess that function is not active <?>
Anyway, last Saturday we went to Boom at 2am to wait for the 2:30 and 3am crowd (and get a seat). Right at 3am, all the lights came on and we were told that the BANGKOK police were in town again and had told them if they weren't closed, they WOULD be.
As long as the lights were on, everyone could sit "and wait". However, we left, because the last time they pulled that stunt, they returned at 4am, harassed everyone and made everyone take a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] test. Not that the test bothers me, but I don't want to be anywhere where the police are paying that much attention.
I don't know what happened Saturday as we left (and many of the people waiting) left as well.
We will try again this weekend most likely.
Hi guys,
This is my first post, so go easy on me if I make any mistakes. Thanks to all of the great post about the place, I was in Pattaya for 3 days last month and my girlfriend and soon to be wife, got very jealous. Now she wants to go see the beach, dance at the disco, and most importantly get some hot girl/girl action and a soapie massage with extras. I assume that Eden in Bangkok will be able to get her the action she is looking for, but I am not sure about the girls and places in Pattaya. Can anyone provide any information or recommendations on the girl/girl or couple action in Pattaya. Places or girls tag #’s would be of great help.
We went to Chicago Club and AB in TJ, but every girl I asked said that she doesn't do girls or wanted $300 US for 30 min. The street girls said the same thing. As you can imagine, I didn't get any kitty cat because she didn't get any girl/girl fun. I want to avoid traveling around the world to experience the same problem.
Here are the details from my last trip:
Two girls at the same time from classroom 2000? accross from the Big C near soi 2. Barfine $500 each LT $1500 each. I don't remember the tag #'s. Both insisted on dimmed lighting, only one smoked. Finished 5 times before they left at 10 am the next morning. looks 7.5 performance 7. One day to recover then a beach girl who picked me up. $500 ST. Lights on, great effort and lots of smoking. Paid $300 for rest of night and was not disappointed. Looks 6, cute face, small chest, c-section, performance 8.5. She told me the blue taxis are ripping tourist off and the fare should only be $20 and $5 for local Thai. Can anyone confirm?
Pattaya: no noticeable crackdown. In fact, things are a little more orderly. What I mean is that the touts are not as hard core and annoying, like grabbing your arms or pushing you. People are well behaved/traffic orderly. You feel safe. If this is a crackdown, I welcome it. Tons of girls on beach road. Thousands of girls in beer bars and thousands more in go go's. NO CROWDS! I don't care what anyone says, YOU CANNOT GET A GOOD LOOKING GIRL FOR 2-300baht short time. You have to be blind enough to ignore the old age, battle scars, the fat body,the sickly appearance, the brown/missing teeth, the dirt under her toenails, and yeah then you have your cheap beauty. Last night scored a 22 yr old beach freelancer who said she came to Pattaya 2 days ago. 5'2, slim, short hair, no babies, firm titts, covergirl face . After a pretty long bbbj, while doing her doggie nice and slow, I admired the tattoo above her azz crack. Really took my time in 4 positions. Gave her the purple note when done, (500baht) and she was all smiles while giving me a wai and thanking me in thai. Her tip was a ride on my scooter back to where I found her. Hit the shawarma sandwich stall across from V.C. hotel. Scoped nice apartments on soi Bhuakow about 7500/month plus electric and water. Found a deal at the Furayama hotel on central pattaya road, across from Topps supermarket. Got them down to 500b/day with all amenities, clean, quiet but what got me is the bathtub, large bed and the large mirror as headboard. Pattaya- if it feels so right, how can it be wrong?
Bil
totally agree in all points.
A beauty will never sell herself for just 200-300 baht, even when in need. She knows that she can get more, it's also a question of proud. Have observed it on my last trip just a few days ago. They were laughing or yelling on guys who offered them 800 for ST or LT. Everything below 1000 is out of discussion, but if they know and like you they will go for less. Was never asked about money, never negotiated a price beforehand. These girls are smart, they can sense a cheap charlie.
No insult or flaming, but I wouldn't take almost any chick I have seen on pics in this forum so far. Sure, those can be had for less than the standard rate, but who wants ?
Standard rate is still
gogo 1000 ST, 1500 LT and up
bar 800-1000 ST / LT
beach girls and soi 6 500 baht ST.
Stay in contact with some girls by phone. They also tell me no customers now in Pattaya. Can confirm, not very busy right now.
One more
Currently I am targeting student and regular girls. Easy to find them on the net. Looks and amount seem to improve compared to a few months before.
Was chatting with a girl a few times, got her mobile and home phone number. Was also chatting with another one named Nut just once and got her mobile as well. Made appointments with both for my next trip.
Today I was chatting with both at the same time. Suddenly the first girl asked me if I know a girl named Nut. I said no, wonder how she can know, are they friends ?
She told me that this is her cousin and is sitting right next to her. What a coincidence ! They also share the same room.
After cooling things down they agreed to play the MTV DISMISSED with me. Both are very cute, so probably no one will be dismissed and hopefuly things end up in a threesome.
Keep you informed on that
Traveller,
First one a question which chat site you use for Thai Girls?
Second recently I saw a report on news channel, somebody cheated on net an American by showing herself photo which were very cute & girl disappeared after getting money for coming to USA. Now police has found that she was showing him photos of Miss World. Just beware!!!
Enjoy
Bone Claws,
I believe the blue taxis you are referring to are the blue baht buses. If you use one that is moving and running a regular route, the standard fare is 10 baht for foreigners and 5 baht for locals. If you get one that is parked they will want a higher fare which is why I almost never use one that is parked. For short trips I often only pay 5 baht and if they complain I may give them the additional 5 baht. Always have exact change because if you give them more than the regular fare they will ofter smile and just drive off or give you less change than you are owed. From the bus station to the beach area they usually change 20 baht. The last time I was in Pattaya I had a lot of stuff I had bought and hired a taxi to take me to the bus station for 50 baht. That was fair since then I was actually using him as a taxi and not just one passenger on a routed bus.
Speaking of being short changed, always count your change in Thailand. I always count my change and as soon as the clerk sees me counting, if he/she is trying to short change me, gives me the rest of the money. This usually happens when I pay with a 1000 baht note.
Duckman
Duckman,
Do you speak and read Thai? Because if you do please tell me where the regulated fare is stated as being 5 baht for locals and 10 baht for tourist or non Thais. The fact is I both read and speak Thai and have never found it written anywhere.
I'm not talking about the red and white signs in English that says
"The Regular Fare of Mini Bus In Pattaya Is Not Over 10 Baht Per Person."
Because that sign is not saying the fare is 10 baht, just that it is not over 10 baht. Besides most of the drivers cover or change the signs and try to charge more any ways.
NEWSFLASH: The Regulated fare is the same for all, 5 baht for a standard trip around Pattaya. Pattaya to Jontiem Beach or Jontiem Beach to Pattaya is 10 baht, that is 10 baht for everyone, Thai or Farung.
Some of the other sites have turn this into a major fight between those paying 10 baht and those paying 5 baht. Let's not have that happen here. If you want to overpay give them 10, 20, 50 or 500 baht, it is your money, but if you want to pay the correct fare just pay the 5 baht and move on.
Sexreview
Below is a picture of the sign in the Baht Buses.
SexReview,
I do speak a little Thai but can't read it. I wasn't saying I had read it. I'm sorry if that's what you believe I was stating. I was trying to say. and obviously not doing it well, that the drivers generally expect foreigners to pay 10 baht. I usually pay 5 baht but if I don't have any change I know the driver is not going to give me change if I give them anything more than 5 baht. So I usually try keep a large supply of 5 baht coins with me but sometimes I do run out and end up paying more.
Duckman
khun
I use Yahoo Messenger. Just use the extended search and you will find plenty of girls. Many thai girls are just there to make friends or look for a farang bf.
Funny story with this american guy and I got to say, I already received one mail that could be one of those. That mail wasn't very sophisticated. First to long, second proper language (my language is very difficult to learn) with just a few mistakes that seem to be faked, third pics were professional, fourth the girl was a real beauty, fifth the girl in the mail claimed to be a nurse age 33, the chick on the pic was a model of max 24yrs.
They/she also tried to get personal info about me and won't come forward with any info about themselves/herself that could be checked. I sent an appropriate message, will see what will happen.
I am not that stupid, would never send money. It's the same scheme like the Nigeria connection. Not only that I am quite familiar with thais, I am traveling to thailand for almost 20yrs, had a thai wife (currently in divorce) and speak thai, I also have thai chinese friends who could check it for me. So I will not end up like this poor minded american guy.
Anyway, what has police to do with it ? It's not against the law to promise something, receive money and not keeping your given word. I think police in my country would laugh about so much stupidity.
Have fun
The funny story about the American guy getting ripped off was about an Indian girl who passed off pictures of a former Miss World (an Indian) as that of her. Now if he ever watched the world news he might have been ok. Anyway, the Indian police are looking into it, but it doesn;t look like anything is to come off it.
Pix one of Miss World
One more
Hi,
I posted a question about renting in Pattaya (condo or bungalow or apartment). My message got slipped under the new ones so I don't think many of you saw it.
Has anyone ever rented in Pattaya? Or do you all stay at a hotel? Do the girls frown upon you if you're renting as opposed to being in a hotel?
One little report I can make is stay away from that so called "Escort Service." It's not even an escort service.
I think one them is named "Blue Diamond" and the other is "High Class." They're both the same place. They want 2,500 baht for two hours.
The girl I got was a mother, I think she was at that bad time of the month with me, but no real evidence of this. Then she wanted to stop after about 20 minutes because she claimed she was sore. And she left and I didn't get the two hours.
Don't ever call this service.
Duniawala
Why did you upload ash08.jpg ? Just a thumbnail, even less.
I think anybody who provides pics in a resolution like this (48 x 106) should be shot immediately :-)
Have fun
When using the baht busses (blue pickup trucks) I suggest dropping the 5baht coin per person in the drivers hand, turn and walk away. Carry correct change. They are constantly on the lookout for UNSURE looking tourists with a question mark look on their face when they pay. If you give them a chance to bump up the fare, they will. Went prowling soi 8 last night and ended up with a tall 5'7" beer bar girl near the eastiny hotel. Face average but 20, no kids. Bought her an 80b ladies drink. She obviously was not in love with me but did her job by leaning against me as I held her in my arms. Those pretty and long toes in high heels got me imagining her legs around my back while entering her. We watch the street action and there hardly isn't any. Bar girls are bumping and grinding to loud music but very few customers. She seems very pre-occupied with her cel phone and tells me of her Irish boyfriend and shows me his picture. Said she stayed with him for 2 months until 6 days ago. I pay her 200b barfine after she agrees to the first offer of 500b for her. At the room she begins to shower and looks puzzled when I offer to wash her long sexy legs. Her phone rings and she leaps out of the tub to answer. Its his call from Ireland and she motions me to quiet as she will ask him for money. She walks into the hall dripping in her towel to talk privately, but after a while I mute the TV and open the door to motion her in as I see another guest propositioning her. She sits down while wiping tears and says to him "if you love me you will send me the money" and "I have to go now babe, if you love me call me in half an hour." This drama almost made me lose my hard on but sucking on her young , firm titts turned the tide. Watched myself fukking her missionary and doggie in the large mirror/headboard. The irishman never did call. "Nobody love me" she said. "I love you baby" said I.
Thanks for the info on the bus fare. I see that I got ripped off big time by asking them the fare. I won't make the same mistake when I visit next month. Do the buses run all over the city?
Damn, I knew she was with another guy! And I just wired her $1000 Euros!
;)
Bone Claws,
They run all over the city, but of course some areas are serviced a little less than other areas.
The main point is: NEVER talk to the driver! Just get off and pay B5 if he's making a wrong turn and jump on another one.
Example: From Soi1 (BeachRoad) to TescoLotus on Sukhumvit is a maximum of three rides: B15.
The only higher and fixed fare in town for one person is the trip from the busstation to BeachRoad: B20.
Freeler and all taxi driving guys
No prob to talk to the driver. Ask him where he goes to avoid a wrong turn. Talking thai is an advantage. Never tell him where you want to go, so you are always on his normal route.
I usually give 5 baht for a short trip and 10 baht for a longer ride.
Once a driver shouted at me when I gave him just 5 baht. I argued with him and told him - in thai of course - to behave well and to have better manners and that he would never do that to a thai. Thais on the baht bus could hear that too and shaking their heads about his wrong behaviour. Then I told him to give me back my money. He drove off. LOL
On an other occasion I also payed just 5 baht but the taxi driver - a quite old man - asked me politely to pay more. I did due to the way he asked for.
Anyway, keep coins handy, pay something between 5 to 10 baht and everything will be ok.
Don't understand why so many guys in this forum traveling on a budget. Just a few baht more or less won't change the world for you.
As far as I remember the main issue of this forum was where and how to get chicks. All other comments like how to save 5 baht for a taxi or where to buy the cheapest beer/water bottle should be placed in the general info section cause these rules are true for almost every country in the world.
One more comment
Many of you guys post that they try to bargain for the services provided by the girls and that they agree on a special amount upfront and beforehand. I would never do so for different reasons.
First, agreed is agreed, therefore you have to pay no matter how good or bad the service was.
Second, the girl might, due to the fact that payment is low in her eyes, provide a low quality ride and / or less services (e.g. no BJ).
Third, in almost 20yrs only a handful of girls asked me about payment. I never tell them how much I will pay. Usually I say, i will be a cheap charlie if they are for me and I will be a good guy if they are good to me. Never got asked again after that. They understand what I mean and they can sense a bargain hunter. Only once - at my last trip - one girl insisted to know how much I will pay. I said "nothing", cause if a girl just goes for the money it won't be a nice experience. Money is an issue, no matter what, but there must be something more or you are doing a dead fish.
Traveller
I guess I did something wrong. I sized it at 640x480 pixels at 72 dpi as per instuction. Maybe Jackson can help me out. What dpi should it be.
Duniawala
Hope you saw the smiley :-) at the end of the message.
The_Traveler,
That posting about not discussing price beforehand was the best advice I've ever heard on this board. I was a big bargainer when I first got to Thailand and I am pretty sure it worked against me. Now I try to avoid the subject. Its easier to do in Pattaya I think where the price is fairly generally known and there's a lot of competition. I used to get gauged for 1000 baht per short time, and of course all the girls loved me then, in spite of my being a rather demanding customer. Now I generally don't discuss it and give a more reasonable 500-700 baht, much closer to the realistic market price. Most seem OK with it, though a few seem less friendly when I run into them again.
Here in Hua Hin there are a lot less girls per available free-spending tourist, so they tend to ask 'how much you give me'. Perhaps especially because they know I'm a long-termer, and therefore relatively likely to be a cheap charly (which I freely admit I am!).
In spite of the general price inflation in this town, I've had a few girls who never brought it up. They always turned out to be the ones that provided the best, friendliest service, and in some cases appeared to enjoy it a little themselves. I've even had a handful of freebies or offers for freebies, but of course that is rare.
COUPLER / Apartments/ Pattaya
You were asking about apartments in Pattaya. I stayed in Pattaya for several months 2 years ago and so looked myself for a longer term bed. Towards the end of my stay there was a place I ran into quite by chance and referred by an ex-pat. Altho it is not luxurious by any means, it was run by a very friendly and honest Englishman and his wife.
It consisted of only 3-4 rooms and it appeared to be a large home at one time split into aptments. He was a way cool dude. Atmosphere is layed back. A/C, TV, kitchenette, Bath. Very in-expensive. If I recall it was only 4000b per month (170b/day). I didn't end up staying there becuase I opted to move onto Cambodia so I can't remember precisely were it is. However, In looking through my contacts prepairing for my upcoming trip I ran accross a business card which I am almost certain is the place. Everyones comfort level is different so you'll just have to check it out and see if it's right for you. You can't beat the rate and friendly comfortable atmosphere. Its on a small building on 2nd Road and Soi Golden Beach.
Address:: 519/100 Soi Golden Beach
Tele #(2 years ago) (038) 7202666- 7 (01) 5249969
Coupler,
Oh yea, this would help, duh. The name is "Winner Apartment".
khun
About the "nurse" and my request for a phone number and my offer to visit her in thailand was answered as expected. "No need to visit her cause I am a sextourist." LOL
So if anybody got a mail from "chan-saphin@thai.com" beware, it's a fake, but I think you guys know that anyway.
Here are a few pics privided by saphin.
khun
Here is the second pic.
Traveller - Well everyone here gets up in arms about pricing and tips and so forth. Part of my profession is in negotiating deals, and I know what my personal experiences in 10 different countries is. If you don't set pricing, then you only leave yourself open to problems and overcharging.
For many guys paying 1500 ST is no problem. It will erode the bargain market eventually, but it's your money. I'm sure your knowledge of Thai helps you from getting ripped off badly.
I personally negotiate all the services that I want, with prices and such. I have only had one problem, and in that case for bad service the girls did NOT get paid the complete fee. (About 30%).
If you want a girl to perform a BBBJ and you communicate that before she comes with you, and then she totally refuses, you would only be encouraging bad service/scam artists by paying her full fee.
Dun - Well you may have downsized the picture more than you had meant to. It's about 10% of the size it should have. Most imaging software keeps the aspect ratio linked. So if you change the width to 300, the height is proportionate.
I always post the pics as large as possible so that you won't have to squint so much. By changing the JPG quality (to 7-9 if it's an original full quality pic), you'll reduce the storage size to 100-150k per picture.
For instance, this is what I got for 50 baht! Now I'm sure she's not up to most of your standards.
Jaimito
I never had problems or have been overcharged. There is no way for that because I never agreed on a price beforehand, so I can pay what I want to.
Usually I stay within the standard price range. I also have no prob to pay 1500 ST - but prefer LT anyway - if service is superb, a girl at a MP will usually cost you more and provides the same service.
My payment always depends on performance !!!
Maybe the girls can sense it. I also never ever hand out the money, I like to put it into their purse, jeans or where ever. Might be that they check it (many do), but some don't and even don't asked me for money. Some are just too shy and are willing to go off even without payment. When I got the feeling that they don't know about the money that I gave them I give them a hint when goodbye.
Bargaining and negotiating on services make me feel bad and destroy the GFE. Sure I am hiring a hooker, I am fully aware of it. But playing around and tell them in a funny way what I want is much better from my perspective. Furthermore I still believe sex should be done without any laid out plans like what to do and when. Too mechanical for me. Just let it happen. A BJ is much better if the girl wants to do it rather than has to do it. You should also be very careful with a BBBJ, many deseases and even HIV can be transmitted that way.
The 50 baht chick on your pick is quite nice. I like her.
Have fun
Traveller,
Sorry but I agree with Jaimito and alot of others on this board who definitely like to get the best puzzy for the least amount of money and that includes any and all personal preferences negotiated up front. I have tried it your way by not discussing the deal and hoping it will go my way. Many times have been refused a bj because it was not negotiated, or ended up with a girl who tried to squeeze me for more money because she "usually gets xxxx amount." This happened most frequently if I had to pay a bar fine. I almost always get satisfactory service. I think it's a bit strange that you play a game hiding payment after. I bet the girls deep down don't think its so funny. To each his own and good luck!
I'm generally with Traveler in that I usually don't mention or negotiate price up front for the same reasons, and I'm like him in tending to keep the whole money exchange thing fairly low key in most instances, often slipping it in her purse, while making sure she sees me do so unless she's a longer-term honey, in which case it doesn't matter. It's not at all a hiding game, and it does two things -- first, it helps maintain the GF sensibility, both for you and the TG, and it also basically eliminates any arguing over cash.
That said, it depends on where the girl is working. TGs from gogos, who are on the higher end of the scale, seem to more often bring up price up front, whereas I rarely hear it from beer bar girls. The one place where I make the exception is with freelancers, who in my experience are more likely to come up with outrageous prices at the end of things, and then go bonkers or wheedle if they don't get what they want. Those I sometimes will settle with in advance, unless I'm fairly sure of her personality. I'd also note that I tend to look for LT as opposed to ST, and in my experience most LT encounters have fewer issues about money directly -- they tend to be more about return encounters, going shopping, and trying to get you to send money from overseas :).
To be honest, the majority of the unsatisfying experiences I've had are with TGs where prices are settled up front, as it then often becomes a sexual checklist as opposed to a GFE. The few TGs I've kicked out have been ones with negotiated prices (except for a couple who were either a) wasted and useless or b) screwed up in the head.) Personally, as long as the sex is hot and my partner enthusiastic, the specifics of this or that act are secondary to me. The long-term girl I had in Chiang Mai my last trip wouldn't even do blowjobs, and it was a major adventure even to get her to ride on top (took two weeks to convince her she'd like it, as she'd never tried it before, was shy, thought she'd be bad at it and embarrassed, but boy, once she tried...) but she was still pretty much the hottest lay I had while I was there. I'd rather have some girl who enthusiastically tries to fuck my brains out than one who's hurrying through a list so she can say she did it and time's up and she deserves her money. That's one of the reasons why I prefer Thailand to Amsterdam. But as Bil says, to each his own.
Joe Zop,
"That's one of the reasons why I prefer Thailand to Amsterdam."
Who doesn't?:D
Joe/Traveller - Well if your system works for you, great. I personally will not go with a girl if she doesn't give a BJ. And while there aren't many girls that won't, I'd rather not have that surprise.
I guess in some respects, we'd all like to think that we're giving our Thai girlfriend a little spending money. We talk about hardened pros all the time, and yet many of us are the same. Looking for romance, perhaps?
I'm on a one night visit to Pattaya and just had a great time on Soi 6. I walked up and down asking for girls who do the 'backside' - honestly I never know the best way to communicate this, and they really are like a needle in a haystack. Ended up with very trashy looking older (30's?) girl. Bareback anal with internal for just 750! Also she gave a fantistic BJ. Then strolled down to the Beach Road but it started raining and the girls seemed to have disappeared. After it stopped I was picked up by an off duty waitress on a bicycle, still in her uniform. Walked her home, planning a 'short-time' in her room. I always enjoy seeing the girls rooms! Alas, she was insistent on a condom so we parted ways with no hard feelings and no money exchanged.
Bil
First, a BJ is nice but not a must for me. I instead like to do them long time in any position you can think of, therefore I want a girl who doesn't mind to get it done for an hour or even longer and who really gets horny or at least fakes it good enough so I won't know. Anyway, in 99% I get a BJ even without asking for it.
Second, I almost never experienced that "usually gets xxxx amount". This only happened on very rare occasions with some BKK gogo girls. Never anywhere else. I also don't discuss it with the girls, just tell them about their performance and in most cases they promise me that the next time will be better. Never took that offer though :-)
Third, I don't play a game by hiding the payment. I just don't put it in her hand. Girls who check their purse will see it immediately but others don't, so I got to tell them.
Last, I don't know how you look like, what's your attitude and how you treat the girls. But all these facts also play a role. They are human beings and if they really like you they are willing to do more than for just a customer. I never took a girl when I didn't got the feeling that there is more than just a business transaction, only MPs are an exception.
Joe Zop
Well said. I am 100% with you.
Jaimito
Not all are hardened pros. I prefer the younger and "innocent" ones. Fresh meat to say so. Only sometimes I need a hardened pro, but all these girls have the same kind of tool and I still believe that the use of this tool depends more on their mood and sympathy for a customer than just an agreed list of positions and tasks. Joe Zop said it all.
If you are happy with your system, go on, nobody critcizes it. I will stick to mine.
Romance ? NO !
I will do them and if good do them again in the future, why not.
If not, pay and walk.
Have fun
Hi guys, Just my 2 pence worth I am a relative newcomer to Thailand and in total have had 6 Thai girls in 2 visits, not a lot by many standards but enough to report a trend.
I have never talked money before hand and after an all night session I have given each girl 1000Bht, not one ever looked at the money and they all wanted to stay longer.
I have never managed to make it to the pump station always got distracted on route but will try harder next time.
LukeSkyWanker,
The number of trips really doesn't matter, if it works for you, great. I will never understand why so many guys on the site want to fight over whose way is the best way. Just present your case and let the readers do what works best for them. No reason to start fights over these tings. Your opinions are just as important as anyone on the board.
Sexreview
JC, it's not romance, just human interaction as opposed to a clash of sexual automatons. There's a difference between being an experienced monger and a hardened one. I'm the former.
I guess this is mostly personal tastes -- when I'm eating, I'm happy to order the chef's special and let him/her make something up and surprise me (whether nicely or badly) as opposed to feeling ripped off if my plate's not precisely as described on the menu. Means I sometimes get fed things that are inedible, but also that I get to discover new things all the time. Success comes down to how you choose chefs.
Don't get me wrong -- like most guys I do love bjs (Skinless made great fun of me for touring the BJ bars for all my talk of GFEs) and I spent a fair amount of time trying to convince my aforementioned honey to give it a try. But to me the dealbreaker isn't this or that act, it's a partner who's uninterested or uninvolved in the proceedings or going through the motions to get me off so the baht will be forked over.
Bottom line: let us all thank the gods for the gems who do all sides of the equation, and that they exist in abundance in LOS!
JZ - Well at least we can talk about it rationally. :)
There are probably as many different "styles" as there are girls out there. As you can tell from my pictures posted, I'd rather go with a non-model looking girl because there is likely to be better service and less hassles.
But that's from my personal experience. The times I've taken 9 or 10 (on my rating scale) type beauties, they've never been as good as the 6 who is great to be with, good bedplay, and a overall good GFE.
I'm not looking for starfish, or hardened pros, but I just don't accept the "up to you" answer. There are enough posts here talking about problems with it, that I'd rather skip any morning scenes.
I guess I'm partial to a good BJs, so it's higher on my list than yours. I've only had two "lackluster" ones in Thailand so far. Actually a lot less problems than, say, Mexico or Costa Rica.
SexReview
I can't see any fight, just a discussion, different opinions.
Joe Zop
I am totally with you.
Jaimito
You are right, sometimes the beauties might have a less nicer attitude than the "not so good" looking ones. The trick is to find out BEFORE you pick them.
Jackson
Maybe move the whole thing into the "Opinions and Advice" section.
Traveller,
If you have no qualms about touching/opening a thai girls purse, how do you feel about them secretly going into your wallet? I just want to mention this in case a newbie decides to take on your modus operandi. Take care.
Picked up a beautiful girl at the opening of Diamond street, south Pattaya. 24 yrs old, no kids long hair with highlights. After a ladies drink and bar fine she agrees short time-500b. Its so slow in Pattaya, girls are playing connect 4 and other games with each other. Getting out of the shower I see her perfectly shaped large titts of her hourglass body. This was not evident at the bier bar and I definitely suckled on them like the breast fed boy I was. After finishing I ask her to stay all night, but she refuses saying I should have mentioned it at the bar, because her girlfriend waits for her. Says, "I can take all night tomorrow if want." B.S. or not I am still horny.
Decided to go out again and stay out all night to see Pattaya late night life. There seems to be a type of thai girl that likes the "Arab" crowd. I was curious. 2:30 am after most bars closed/dim lights, I see a stream of arabs and girls leaving the marine disco for the hotel directly behind it. They are also going into other hotel discos in the Walking street vicinity. I was told some stay open until 9am. I follow a cutie into the hotel and proposition her in the lobby. Seems her friend and her were going to dance but she succumbs to my short time offer of 500b. Taking her back to my hotel I notice she is exceptionally clean, manicured and not very english savvy. Doing the nasty I find my dik in this certain position bumping into what I think was her G spot of the upper wall toward the back of her puzzy. Concentrating on this little piece of skin in her canal got me very intense moans and hip thrusts. She couldn't fake these orgasms and proceeded to sniff and kiss my neck. After, I ask her if she wants to sleep with me/long time, she says yes. We do it all again after sleeping all morning and afternoon, and I get her cel # and about 15 kisses on the lips. If I wasn't such a buttuhfly, I would call her.
Bil
As far as I know and regarding to LEO.ORG there is a difference between the american and british interpretation of the word "purse".
A purse in America is a small bag girls/women use to carry with them for their keys,lipstick and other stuff. You used the british interpretation which equals the purse to a man's wallet.
I try to avoid to open their "wallet" and rather place it into their jeans or other places so payment is detected easily. Only in very rare cases - e.g. girls that stay with me more than one day/night - I put it into the "wallet".
Anyway, a good point, but you forgot the main difference between the two compared situations. If a girl opens my wallet she probably wants to steal some money, I instead will put some into it.
Have fun
Bil,
Did you get her name? She sounds alot like a girl that I met on the opening of Diamond street. (except the girl I know isn't enormous in the breast area) Same thing though, beautiful, hair with highlights, never doea all night, girlfriend waiting, etc...
If you don't want to divulge her name, does it rhyme with "ha?"
Bil,
On second thought, send me an e-mail. I'm just curious about her interaction with other customers. She struck me as very unique (not necessarily a good thing). I'm wondering if she's the same with others.
:(
I have been tryig to book a room for a couple of a days between christmas and new year, but..
Flipper House
Flipper Lodge
Penthouse
Sunbeam
Sandy Springs
Pattya Center hotel
ALL are sold out!
What's the cahnce of me just showing up from BKK and find a room in a decent hotel?
Badass
Many hotels are really not sold out but they don't want to rent a room for a couple of days, they are holding them for people booking the whole week or more. Just keep trying it is best to get a room now and not to wait. Also try calling the hotels and not using the internet many times it works much better. If you know someone in Pattaya have them go in and try to book a room now for you.
You should also try the AA Soi 13, Lek Soi 12, Diana Hotel, Second Road, the new Dynasty Inn Soi 13, also Eastiny Inn, Eastiny Place and Bella Vista all Soi 8 area. If all things fail places like the Marriott and Hardrock always seem to have rooms but you pay much more around US$100 per night, but you said a couple of days only. I would not wait until I was in Thailand to look for a room. Good luck, Christmas is great in Pattaya.
Sexreview
Badass
SexReview is right, always plenty of rooms available in Pattaya. The hotels he mentioned are all in the same price/quality range of your preferred ones. But I think there should be no prob to find a room on arrival. Also try Ice Inn opposite Mike II close to the 7/11. Prices will rise around Xmas and New Year but still many hotels far below the mentioned US$100.
Have fun
Coupler,
This may or may not be the girl you know. I got her name, but like all the others, forgot it 2 minutes later. She was at the 2nd bar in from walking street on soi diamond, the center row. I think she kinda looked philipino, but not dark skinned, taller than the average thai. I believe she would have gone all night, why would she offer it later? Her body was a perfect 10.
Badass,
There are always a large selection of rooms in Pattaya, in all price ranges, at all times of the year. I have never made a reservation nor needed it for rooms in my price range 400-800baht/day- weekly rate. They are still building hotels and will be doing so forever. The Mike supermarket took over and refurbished a beautiful hotel near soi 3? The rooms in Pattaya will never, ever be sold out, ever!
to sexreview and traveler,
i hadn't tried the typical 4-5 star hotels because of their guest policies. you are right, they dont want to book a room for only 2 nights.
i am sick of these mariotts and hyatts and wanted to try a local favorite like penthouse, but they have declined twice.
anyway, i just got confirmation from sunbeam...bht 2900/night for deluxe room. i have read mixed reviews on it's quality.
bil,
you think that it's wise to drive from bkk without having reservation, even around christmas time?
i can see myself standing out there on walking street with my luggage in the middle of the night!
might get raped by a whole bunch of tgs...hmmm..:)
(i'm going to cancel my reservations:))
Bil,
Yes, we're definitely talking about the same girl. She's a 10 in my book to. I don't go less than 9. Something about me, my standards shoot through the roof as soon as I set foot on Thai soil.
Anyway, let me know if you take her up on that all night offer. Maybe her attitude is changing, more money. Then if she says only ST for me, I'll say, "But you did all night for my buddy Bil."
And make sure to tell me the price too. I don't want to pay her more than others are giving her. And don't believe her, "I'm not really a regular prostitute" story.
Badass,
There are always rooms available. The hotels don't like to let travel agencies and such do too much booking. Than they have to give a cut to the "recruiters." You walk in the lobby, the only one who gets your money is them.
I stayed at the Sunbeam hotel last February (the busy season). They would only book for one night through the airport service.
Then when I got to the desk, they said one week was no problem. For a bit of a higher price of course. Nice rooms. Make sure you ask for a balcony room pointing toward the beach.
And I paid 1400/night for a really nice room like that.
You booked for 2900? That's steep. I'd say you're getting ripped off.
My 1st trip to Pattaya was around 20 years ago in the 1980, yes I am an old guy.
The only massage parlor was Sabialand massage parlor.the exchange rate was around $ 1US =28 baht.
I stayed at the Dusit Resort. there werent to many places to stay then. they were not many clubs, resturante,beer bars then.
My other trip to Thailand was in may 2001 I went to Bankgkok stayed at Presidente Hotel. it is about half a mile from Little darlings Massage Parlor.Then went to Pattaya and was very surprised from all the build up of shopping malls,open beer bars, many massage parlors,and the famous Walking street.The exchange rate was around $us 1=38 baht.
My other trip was in Dec 2002, went to Bangkok, Phuket, pattaya.
That was 1st time to Phuket. nice crowded beach. many bars,and clubs with woman in them I think i went to RockHard disco.
I perfer Pattaya. there seems to be a younger crowd of Thais.and hotel and massage parlors are cheaper than in Bangkok.
I did go to Sabia Massage Parlor and stayed at Sabia Inn hotel.Also went to walking street and pick up a girl forgot what bar .
I did visit some massage parlor in Bangkok but felt they were overprice at $ 4000 baht for superstars.I dont know what the prices are now?
I just came back from 17 days in Brazil. and got to say the woman are better looking and give better bbbj.Visit the termas in Rio de Janeiro. almost like the massage parlors in Thai except they dont give you the soapy massages.but they walk around in thong type outfits and you can talk and touch them and they touch you.They also have a steam room and hot suana,showers and a relax room=tv with chairs.
I plan to go back to Brazil in 2004.
Badass
Bht 2900/night at the Sunbeam sounds totally overpriced to me. The Sunbeam is just a middle class hotel with 3 stars at best. Location is good, but for that amount you can get almost everywhere a room. Cancel it as long as you can.
Badass,
One more thing about the Sunbeam Hotel it is a tour group hotel, everyday bus loads of Asian tourist come to it. They even have a large parking lot so they can park a dozen or so buses. This information don't make the hotel bad, but should be noted. On a up note Sunbeam Massage is a great place for foot massages and Thai massages, if you take the girls out extras are available.
Sexreview
Badass,
My answer is YES. There is always rooms at the upscale hotels, which I am guessing you prefer. The rooms that are usually sold out are the Budget hotels for 400-800baht. If you think you might lose sleep over it, book a room or two online for a week and cancel. Christmas is not like a western holiday time in Thailand. Sure the europeans come to escape the snow, but its Summer in Australia . You will be able to find a room in the Siam Bayview hotel, the Pattaya Centre hotel, The Nova lodge, the Mike hotel, the Marriott, the Hard Rock, The Eastiny, Sabai Lodge, The Flipper, and the list is almost endless. Lots of other people make reservations and cancel too! I GUARANTEE you will never be standing on the street with your luggage in one hand and your joint in the other, with no place to stay. (one of the 10,000 girls for hire will help you with the latter) Have a helluva time!
Well guys,
Overpriced? touristy? only a 3*?
I agree with all of you, so.....screw it.
I am canceling my reservations.
I'll show up in Pattaya.
A little adventure never hurt anybody!
The traveller is incorrect. A purse in England is strictly for women. Men use wallets. I have never hidden money from girls. Perhaps I am naive but I have never found it a problem.
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I have never negotiated price unless the girl brings up the subject, and have never had problems when I don't. I simply pay the girl depending upon how good she was. One girl recieved only 500 baht lt because she simply did not perform, whereas a girl who is hot can expect at least double that if she is willing. I think that is the key the more a girl likes you the more she will do.
Regarding BBBJ, it has simply never been an issue. Every girl I have been with in Thailand has simply got down to business. Some don't even want to wear one for sex, fuck that idea. I am not crazy for anal but I have been offered it by some girls freely.
I only ever tell the girl that I have some lingerie back at my hotel for her to wear and I'd say 90% are happy with this idea especially if you take the same girl again.
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pattaya, october 2003,
i knew this trip would be my last for the year and had big hopes. i didn’t let myself down. i upgraded to business class on china airlines. i only packed a carryon backpack thinking i may end up changing hotels or even a trip to cambodia. even though neither happened, not having to wait around in baggage claim was nice. i had reservations at flipper lodge on soi 8. i picked this hotel because it’s in the middle of the middle of the action and because of the in house massage service offered. i will say now, i didn’t use the massage service here knowing that full service was offered and i didn’t find the girls attractive.
the ride to the hotel was great compared to the usual ride to angeles city, pi. shared a ride with a monger from denmark and was checking in less than two hours later. i didn’t bother showering first since the only thing on my mind was a soapy. i walked down to second street and hopped on a baht bus to sabie land massage. i wanted a change, so i got a bleached blonde spinner with big hooters. she seemed a little stuck up at first, but i managed to get her laughing and it turned out spectacular. i felt great afterward and very clean, inside and out.
from there i walked down to e’s favorite foot massage place and got a two hour session form porker’s girl. she recognized me as e’s brother from last trip and would blush and giggle when i brought up porker’s name. she really likes you buddy! i fell into a light sleep and was in heaven by the time it was over. this girls is strong! next time i will warm up with a weaker gal first, lol.
i then took a baht bus down to pattayland 1 to look for the girl that stole my heart last trip. well her bar was closed. it was around 7pm by now and i enjoyed a few beers at the beer bars here. this is one the top three streets for short time beer bars imho. i was supposed to meet up with kuhnmor at the flb bar on walking street at 8pm, so i headed down a little early.
had a couple beers before i spotted kuhnmor walking in. my new denmark buddy showed up too and we chatted over a couple beers. i asked kuhnmor to show us the latest hotspots on walking street. i was exhausted by this time. even in business class i didn’t get much sleep on the plane. add to that a soapy, a great two hour foot massage, and who knows how many beers, i was anxious to bar fine and get horizontal. kuhnmor didn’t let us down. he showed us a couple bars with total nudity and some real hotties. had some fun playing around with the girls. all were very sweet and nasty at the same time. i wish i could have hung in longer on the barhop, but my eyes fixed on a dark skinned spinner with a perfect bubble butt. i bid farewell to my buddies and took my barfine back for some fun.
on the way to the hotel i was rubbernecking at all the eye candy. i hadn’t even seen soi 8 at night yet, but when we were walking towards the hotel i was amazed and in total awe at the amount of flesh on both sides of the streets. it was an ocean of tgs. here i was walking hand in hand with my barfine all the while thinking how i couldn’t wait to swim in this ocean.
up in the room i made the realization that i had barfined a girl that i would consider less than pretty. ok, her face was brutal in the light. so i turned off the lights and we had a lot of fun. i turned it into a short time afterwards and sent her on her way. i walked about 50 feet towards second street and spotted a solid 9. she played the very shy act, but logic dictated that she had experience. so i played along and ended up with sweetness with a nasty finish. this got me through the rest of the night.
the next morning she woke me up with a smile, between my legs! after cleaning up we went downstairs and ate breakfast at the hotel’s restaurant. i will take the time now to say the flipper lodge is a very nice hotel. the room was completely silent. the staff were all attentive. i have no complaints at all. the restaurant was ok, nothing special, but nothing wrong either. i sent the bargirl on her way and went to the internet café. i saw some postings on the king kong bar on soi 6 and wrote a note to check it out. i finished up my emails and walked a little further down soi 8 to a massage place. i got an hour foot and an hour thai massage. this place was very nice and clean, and the massage was excellent. i would be back many times.
ok, now to check out this king kong bar that was the supposed equal to eden club. i have never been to eden club but have heard enough stories and seen pics and vids that had the idea. well the king kong bar itself was the standard beer bar just looking around. a fairly nice looking girl latched on to me outside and brought me inside where i ordered my first beer of the day. she was practically begging me to take her upstairs, all the while massaging mr. happy. i told her i wanted two girls and pointed out a girl outside. she brought her inside and i laid out my desires. i made sure each of them understood and agreed before we headed to the short time room. my last trip i bragged about how nice the short time rooms on soi 6 were, but this room was slightly above santos street short time rooms in angeles city, pi. but the girls looked good and that was all that mattered.
we all cleaned up from the barrel of water in the bathroom since there was no running water. hmmm, what is worse, alcohol clean up or freezing cold water splashed on your groin? we made it to the bed and the second girl starting her hoover action right away. soon the first girl joined in and took over. my god she sucked hard. i felt like i had to take a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] the entire time. after a few minutes, i nudged the second one down to my crotch. this didn’t have the effect i had intended. the first girl stopped and started kissing and sucking my chest and neck. i told them i wanted them to do it together and made hand motions of moving them closer. they ended up making out with each other. they got down to business fast, french kissing passionately, fingering each other and quickly assumed a 69 position. i was thinking what the hell is this? i interrupted them and told them i wanted them together doing me! they both wiped off their mouths, apologized and proceeded to make me very happy. all in all a very nasty experience, so i highly recommend king kong bar.
i hopped a baht bus back to soi 8 and got another two hour massage. i had to stop the foot massage portion as it was too painful. i’m thinking the extra strong massage from yesterday was catching up. so i opted for two hours thai massage. i then headed to soi post office where i got a nice bbbj at the pump station. i love this place. within 5 minutes of walking in, your dick is in a girls mouth.
afterwards i headed back down to pattayland 1 to see if the object of my desire’s bar was open yet. it was. she was sitting at the bar talking to a customer when i spotted her. she looked up at me and got a puzzled look. she excused herself from the guy and sat down to her dinner at the table next to the bar. i asked her if she remembered me. she said she did and seemed happy to see me. i asked if she would like to go with me and she jumped up and down and gave me a big hug and kiss. i paid her bar and talked shit with an australian dude while she went to get ready. he told me a little history of this street and that it was his personal favorite escape.
when pun was ready we went down to the flb bar to see who might be there. i wasn’t ready for action at the time, so we hung out there for a couple hours. the momasan was enjoying a shoulder massage when we walked in. i asked her how did she manage that, she replied, i give her 100, but it’s up to you. i told her to put me down for next. it was very nice, enjoying a cold beer, my fantasy girl by my side, a rockin’ live band, and an expert massage in a comfortable bar. i could have stayed here all night, but pun was looking too sexy. we left and i got something to eat on the way to the room.
pun didn’t disappoint me at all in bed. just like last time. i know i fall in love way too easy, but i just couldn’t get enough of her. i paid her bar the next morning and we hung out all afternoon, doing some shopping and sightseeing. after a little afternoon delight i went down for a thai massage on soi 8 again. i was in a trance it seemed. when i woke my masseuse was cuddled next to me. she said she tried to wake me but i looked too happy lying there. i went back to my hotel around 6pm, had more fun with pun and passed out. woke up at 5am!
ok, pattaya is great for daytime activities, but not so at 5-6:30 am. i walked around looking for a internet café open, or even a place to eat. seems all the restaurants in area opened at 6:30. by the time i searched all of sois 7 and 8 the restaurant at my hotel was open. i knew pun would want to sleep in so i ate alone. i got a dreadful shave from the in house salon. it was awful. i did not repeat. after checking my email i went up and woke pun. i felt myself falling for her again. i had made a few mistakes in philippines before, letting my plastic heart get in the way of my mongering. i have paid dearly for these mistakes and decided not to let it happen again. i told pun that i wanted to be on my own and let her go. she walked away without looking back. that was the last time i saw her.
i had so much fun my last trip on soi 6 that i decided to check it out again in the daylight. i passed on king kong and headed further down. i spotted a pretty girl sitting in a salon. i decided now would be a good time to get a manicure and pedicure. the girl looked very much like an ex chinese girlfriend i had in the us, except younger. a lady boy was there as well. she was very nice looking. i could tell she was a man, but only because my radar was on high alert. she ended up doing the make up for the girl that caught my eye. in walked another lady boy. she sat down next to me and started flirting. i was amused and we had the whole salon laughing hysterically. she knew i wasn’t interested and the whole time was joking only. i definitely did not want to pork her.
it just so happened that the girl getting her make up done worked in the bar next door. she was very quiet and did not speak english. i ordered a beer in her bar and one for her. she slowly warmed up to me, getting braver by the minute. seated at the bar was a dude with his fingers in a very ugly girl’s ass. she was bent over the next bar stool and he was doing everything to bury his hand up her ass. his other hand was finding it’s way between another ugly girl’s legs. when i say ugly here, i really mean ugly. i couldn’t get into pun2 much as the sight was gross, but i still couldn’t just not look. after he left i felt a lot more at ease, even with the lady boy down the end of the bar winking at me. i didn’t want to pork her either!
pun2 and i were getting to know each other inside and out. i would look around occasionally and she asked if i would like to take another girl. i looked around and didn’t see anything special. i needed another beer and a goddess came out of nowhere with it. she was a tiny spinner with d cups. cute face and a three inch tongue. pun2 said she was her best friend. i asked if her tits were silicone. she pull down her top to let me see for myself. wow, perfect! she said she was 18, i checked her id not really knowing what i was looking at, and said ok for both of them.
we all three went back to my room and took showers. i have a habit of saying “oh my god” a lot. well her name was goi, so i soon started saying “oh my goi”. her body was absolute perfection. no fat, but not skinny. she had a nice bubble but and those tits! perfect hour glass frontal and an improbable profile. funny how i didn’t even think about pun the rest of the day.
we all got in bed and started making out, touching groping, all that. they took turns going down on me and rimming my ass. this is the greatest time of my life! we did so many positions. for the first time, i went down on a girl side by side with another girl. both of our tongues together licking pussy. goi was shaved smooth and pun2 had a bush, i had it all! i literally mounted pun2’s face while goi tossed salad from behind. i finished with goi’s ass in the air in the lazy dog position while pun’s tongue was giving me a prostrate massage. i hadn’t had a vitamin v yet this trip, but managed to last at least an hour and a half with these two. we all collapsed into a short nap afterwards. i had intended on short time when i set out earlier for soi 6, but i decided to keep these two all night. we would repeat the experience two more times this night and one more in the morning. i honestly can’t imagine life getting better than this. we did a little barhopping as well and at the english restaurant on soi 7, excellent food.
the next day i sent the girls home. i told goi that i may see her later as she mentioned she was even better by herself. i had to see this. the girls left the room while i cleaned up. the phone rang minutes after the girls left. it was the front desk making sure it was ok for the girls to leave. now that is good security.
after i cleaned up i ate at the english restaurant and couldn’t finish the superman breakfast. it was huge. then i checked some emails. made another stop in at the pump station. got a very good girl that actually swallowed this time. the way she was going on about it afterwards made me believe this was not a normal thing for her to do. she seemed a little embarrassed by it. she was the prettiest girl i’ve seen there, and would have been tempted to barfined her except for the fact she told me she had 5 other customers that day before me.
then i made my way down towards pattayland 2 and second to world massage. i decided on a two hour massage but ended up with four. i had been here a few times on my first trip and the service is top notch. the girl asked if i wanted to see her when she got off work. i politely declined. she was pretty, but i was all about performance on this short trip.
from checking the internet, classroom was the buzz word of the day. i check it out on pattayland2. i didn’t see any total stunners here, but a very light skinned mixed race girl was looking very cute and so, well lack of a better word, schoolgirlish. she was very attentive in the bar and would look jealous when my eyes wondered. so having looked around at all the selections, i thought maybe the word was for classroom2 on soi 1 i think. i made my way there and was very disappointed. the entire bar was smoke filled to the point my eyes were burning, and i was the only customer in the place. i didn’t see one bar-finable girl there and headed to soi 8.
on soi 8 i ended up short timing twice within two hours. both girls were fine, but not spectacular. so i go to soi 6 and grab goi. we went down on walking street as i wanted to scope out some bars for tomorrow night. we had a few at flb bar then back to the room for a vitamin v enhanced super session. she was better alone! i swear i would marry this girl tomorrow! but, she had an older english boyfriend that her family already approved of. he didn’t know she was working still, but she said she needed the extra money. i think she is a nympho. she is also the only sea girl i ever seen taking birth control pills. her conversations were very intelligent, especially for an 18 year old. no bullshit with her either. she even said i was not all that hansum and my dick was not the biggest she’d ever seen, lol.
as much as i wanted to keep her for my last night, i knew i couldn’t go home with this low of a body count from 6 nights. i wished her well and truly miss her still. did my usual rounds my last full day. couple hours thai massage and a short time with an unremarkable open beer bar girl.
in the late afternoon i was walking towards my hotel on soi 8 when i spot a thin girl with nice c cups. she was very pretty and funny to talk to. we joked around in her bar and i got the impression she was just the bartender or something, and not really available for barfine, at least it seemed this way. when i said i was leaving, she asked me where i was going. i told her my hotel and she said, “ok, i go with you”. like it was her decision for me to have her. fine by me. i wasn’t expecting much from her. she seemed too pretty to get down and dirty. well she sure surprised me. she was a gem, not near the level of goi, but far above average. at one point when she was riding me, she took my hand and placed it on her stomach. i could feel my dick inside her. she was not so skinny as to look anorexic, but her waste was slightly bigger than my upper arm. we played for a couple hours and i began thinking about the clock. down to under 18 hours left.
tonight was supposed to be my trophy night, but i couldn’t get the girl from classroom off my mind. so i went there and left with her. i stopped by flb bar and met up with bigd and had a good bs session. i left him there to go try out my classroom girl. well, she was not up to speed in the bedroom. she said she didn’t smoke, i told her i wanted her to so she did. the rest was just like in high school. everything seemed uncomfortable to her. i knew she was trying and that she did like me. but time wasn’t my side and i dropped her back to her bar with a good tip. she was crying when she realized i was leaving her there. she obviously was hoping for long time. i then set off for the trophy hunt.
bigd recommended super girl and or super baby. i checked them both out and nothing jumped out at me. went to a few more with no luck. i was walking by the thai boxing ring when the fight captivated me for a few moments. saw a clean knockout. then i saw living dolls go go. i had heard good things about this place. i walk in the door and a knockout in her own right was just coming off stage. i took her hand and helped her down. she was built like a brick shit house. mission accomplished, maybe. i bought us drinks and we played around a while. then it was her turn for a show. i started to protest, but didn’t when i saw the other girls stripping down. i figured i might as well get a peak at the unwrapping before i committed. the minute she took off he clothes i told mommy that i would pay her barfine now and get her back to me. she seemed a little too happy to be going with me. come to find it was her first week working in pattaya after moving from bangkok. i’m guessing the apec shit had something to do with that.
we went to flb so i could say goodbye to my new friends there. i very like this bar. although the girls here are not my type, they are very fun. hindsight tells me i should have bought more lady drinks there, but there is always next time. some fellow mongers taught me about having a “safe” bar, a bar that you don’t barfine from so it’s drama free to bring other girls to. we had a couple drinks and headed back to the room. this girl was a real sweetheart. i was expecting the cold mechanical act from her. but she was probably the most affectionate girl i had. the sex was great, but still not up to the level of goi. she even massaged me for two hours while i watched the fox news. she was very aggressive in the morning, practically [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125][CodeWord125][/url] me. she spoke no english but we still got along like long time lovers. she seemed to be able to predict my needs. this session was the definition of gfe. later at breakfast she asked for my phone number. this made me laugh. i made with my hand like i was on the phone with her and said “hello”, then motioned her to reply. she laughed out loud when she realizes phone numbers would be useless for us. i gave her my email and wrote out a mushy letter for her to get interpreted later.
my car was ready for me at noon. check out was a breeze and no surprises. i got a very personable driver that made the trip fly by. we stopped for gas about 15 minutes from the airport. all the attendants were young girls. when they saw me in the back seat they surrounded the car and each gave me candy. i was flirting with them and motioning them to come with me. the driver was doing well at some interpretation for us. i gave them some baht coins i had left in my pockets. this last little scene was enough to make me realize i need to come back here soon. i don’t think i can make it to next year!
bud
Monger 1
Nice report. One of the best I have seen in here. Good reading.
juice.
I agree, excellent report -- and I heartily agree the advice to have a "safe" bar where you can always go without drama because you've never barfined anyone. That's always worked for me, plus it means you can simply flirt and have fun to your heart's content and safely walk away.
mongering1,
Nice report that you filed. As I posted before, and as you found out, you can get services better than that of Eden Club at much less baht on Soi 6. Soi 6 is a great place and the prices are reasonable too. Never have bar fined a girl out of FLB bar you are right not my type either, I would say if you like over girls over 30, who have been around a while then FLB is a good place to find them, but much better girls can be had in other clubs.
Flipper Lodge always calls when a girl leaves your room without you, because they will not return the girls ID unless they call you.
The idea of having a safe bar is a good one but I’ve never had a problem bringing girls into a bar where I have bar fined a girl before or bar fining more than one girl within a bar. A couple of bars in Pattaya I have bar fined about a dozen girls from each. It is all a matter of control, if you don’t let the girls control you, you will never have a problem. What many guys never seem to understand is we are in control, the bar girls need us more than we need them. Every night hundreds of working girls in Pattaya go home alone, compared to a few guys going back to their lodgings alone. The big difference is we do it by our choice, the girls do it because no one would bar fine and or take them.
Only a few weeks and I’m back to Thailand.
Sexreview
Greetings All, Has anyone on this board had any dental work done in Pattaya i.e. crowns, root canals. I can find very little info as to quality and pricing.
Monger1: Great piece. I would like to provide this board with a second opinion on Goi. Can you tell me where you found this little jewel? ....16 days and counting.
Jackson: my cado's as well on the new photo section. Love it.
Mongering 1
I think that was the best report I have ever read here on the WSG forum. Thanks, it was almost like being there.
I have a questions. For my December trip I was thinking of booking a stay at the flipper lodge. I have never stayed there but have heard lots about it. From your post you seem to have given it high marks. Was the area outside the hotel quiet? What did the rooms run? Also, how much did you pay for the private taxi service to and from Pattaya. I rode in a Mercedes my last trip, I got a small bar stocked with drinks music and cold AC for around $1200 baht I think I paid. Why anyone would ride the bus is beyond me. This made the trip so nice. Right from my BKK hotel to the front door of the Sabi Lodge.
Again, super great report. Any mongers up for meeting in Pattaya the first week of December, email me.
GETTINGTANG2003@yahoo.com
I paid 780 baht for my room. Outside was nice, but not quiet. Soi 8 ranks right up there with Soi 6 as far as volume of girls on both sides of the street. Request when making reservations for the quietest room available. As far as the ride, 1,500 was the best I could do from the airport. I didn't have the energy or patients to bargan over 5 or 6 US.
Bud
Mongering1,
Great report. I was wondering if you could tell me what the hell a "pump station" is.
Thanks!
Whoa,
Pump Station is the name of the bj bar on Soi Post Office.
Bud
Mongering1,
Your report have convinced my friend and I to include Pattaya in Manila trip this coming February - great report. Just have a few questions:
How much was the barfines - on average?
How much did you give the girls for short time and overnight service?
Would you have the address and phone number of the hotel?
How many night to do recommend we stay - strictly to monger.
Is it 250baht for 1US dollar?
Thanks again. Let me know if you are in Manila next month or February next year.
Ilongo
Ilongo_boy,
Barfines are 300b for most beer bars and 500b for go gos. I usually give short time, beer bar girs, 500b and go go girsl 1,000b. Long time double it. Of course this is only a guide, more or less depending on service.
www.flippergroup.com
Stay as long as you can!
the baht is around 39-$
I should be in Angeles City in either Feb or March.
Bud
Thanks for the info Bud. I will be in Makati Feb/March as well for 3 weeks. Never been to AC, always get my action on Quezon ave. I'll remind you then before I take off for Manila.
Cheers,
Ilongo
Mongering1,
Xcelent report, as usual...
Ilongo_boy,
http://www.xe.com/ucc/ is a good site for currencies.
It's as good as real time. And free:)!
I wanted to point out to everyone the ability to send Private Messages using the software on this site has now been activated. It works well.
However, there is no default "On" setting. You need to physically turn it on by following the instructions on the site.
-Uncle Otto
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Here is another one of the LBFM that I came across on my last trip to Pattaya, works at What's Up A GoGo on Soi 15, never really found many great looking girls in this club. This one was about the best I came across. Bar fine 500 baht and 1000 baht tip.
Mongering One, that brings back some great memories... in the not so recent past (was it just September when I came back?).
I remember going for mid afternoon and evening runs up Beach road. I could get my exercise and scope out all the women as well. Afterwards I would usually meet one out there and talk for a bit. I always did my humor test, after speaking Lao the scowlers would be x'd and the ones laughing at it would make the list. Almost always there is that one gem out there, cute and good humored. There was one fox like Goi.. it was funny b/c she was one of the few that made no pretense of her total indifference to me (she didn't like, she didn't hate, would do pretty much what I asked, just could tell I was one of many on her 'list'). Somehow that made me want to bone her all the more!! I'm sure she got that all the time. I only saw her out there once, but she would call me ever so often on my cell phone to see if I was up for a 'date'. I'm sure someone was taking care of her, which is why if I ever was going to send a chick money it would be to go to school in her home city (or at least far away from the myriad swinging dongs of Pattaya!)
I was staying at the Penthouse which is like Disneyland on acid. 'Pussies of the Caribbean or something like that...' I had gotten upgraded to their huge party room and was staying there by myself. Every chick I brought back to that hotel. It totally rocked. Seeing their faces when they came into that cavern was worth the price! The second would come when they realized there was no shower curtain..lol. Tell you the truth that really seemed to bring out the beast in most. There were actually some cool and very attractive chicks in Penthouse's agogo and I think I took two of them to my room.
I've never had consistently good experiences with two women, although the last time was literally knee-wobbling good.. the coolest thing was that neither of these two knew each other and one was definitely the teacher, but very cool!
Anyways, will most likely not be going there until next Spring, so I will have to rely on other's memories. *sigh*
Mongering 1, this is sort of off-topic but have you ever compared the beer bar prices in Pattaya vs the BB prices in Bangkok? This trip it really hit home that in Ptty there is a difference and in Bangkok there isn't.
I was getting hit for 500 bt. bar fines in Bangkok for the BB (whereas in Pattaya BB you can get around 150-300). Also the girls wanted roughly the same money. Knowing Thai and 'the scene' didn't really seem to help.
It was sooo different in Pattaya. At least a few months ago there wasn't the large price increase I saw in BKK. I remember in the not too distant past when BB prices in BKK were much lower.
Just for the fuck of it I was going through my own photos and came across 'F'. This was one of the coolest Pattaya chicks (and story).
She worked in an a-go-go and the first time I met her I was 'picked' by her and her mamasan as I was strolling down walking street.
They motioned me over and although this chick was looking VERY hot (in an evening gown type get-up, very different) I really wasn't looking to barfine someone that early.
But I went over there to bullshit after we got to chatting the mamasan told me that it was F's birthday and she got to 'pick' her guy. Bar-fine 'free'. Wow that was really cool. I had not before (nor ever again LOL) had this happen to me.
I took her to a friend of mine's bar and when he heard the story insisted the staff bring her a magnum of Champagne and everyone sang happy birthday to her.
Well the champagne took effect and it didn't take long before she was giving me a very sexy dance on my own and was hiking that slit ever higher (to the appreciation of more than one punter!). She was grinding front and back and after about an hour we adjourned to my hotel.
I never can understand why one bargirl likes her customer far beyond what one could attribute to acting, but 'F' was one of them. I kepther number and she kept mine and I think I periodically hooked up with her, this pic is one where she came for a 'visit'... No bullshit between us.
Poobah,
Your girl is not too unique. Some girls like to "choose" their customers. They do this by not dancing, making the general public think their not available, that they don't work.
Then when they see a guy they like, they'll put a number on and stand in front of him, only showing him the number.
Some of the much better girls actually have the luxury of choosing their customers this way.
had a funny experience about 4 mornings ago. was getting ready to say goodbye to my TG of the night, staying at Flipper lodge, (thanks, mongering1, it is a perfect place).
she and I went over to the guard for her to pick up her ID card. the guard pulled out a "wad" of ID cards. There had to be a stack literally 5 inches thick. we all laughed at the thought of every single room in the hotel, with a TG inside boinking some punter
1ball
Well, I have had girls pay their barfine before (although they got it back from me) but have never had one paid for by managment for a birthday present. That was the unique part about it.
All,
I am enjoying the 'quirky' little stories Poobah - I just love the idea of the management paying! The ego trip of being "selected" must be great.
For my first trip to Pattya I like most people adopted a 'home' bar that was base. On my last night I was with one of the girls and back at the hotel her phone rang. It was one of her friends from the bar.
That night girl said it was her friend and that she knew it was my last night & she liked me. Could she come over to the hotel as well - WELL YES !! So she arrived and I had a great last night with both of them!
Remember the one thing these girls do is talk amoungst themselves. Treat one well they all know but the reverse applied. Treat them well and surprises can happen.
Happy Travels,
Summiteer
They say that all pleasures in life fall into three catagories: Anticipation, The moment and lastly, Memory.
Well, I find the first the most intense and being a mere 2 months away from my next visit to Pattaya I can hardly concentrate at work as my mind wanders to the sweet memories of wonderous times past.
This is my first post and will be followed in January with a detailed account of my time in Pattaya, together with pictures and any other relavant information I can share.
I have not been to Thailand in nearly 5 years and am most intrigued as to whether the 'beach scene' is as it was. I certainly saw some sights there - even indulged a few fantasies. Any comment or experiences on this subject would be greatly appreciated.
In the meantime, thanks for all the helpful posts and comments.
Yours expectantly
Roulette
The FAQ sections says there are places in Pattaya like Eden in Bangkok. Where are they and what are they called?
Thanks.
Gentlemen (and I use the word in its "loosest" form)
I will be in Pattaya from 26th Nov > 30th Nov and may even buy a beer or two.
If anyone fancies a beer and a bit of mongering together then drop me a line - would be keen to meet up and lose whatever scrap of integrity I have left..
Let me know,
The right honourable Cruk
Anybody have any specific names for bars similar to Eden in patty? Price?
Thanks
Roulette,
I believe the beach scene is intact, though the last day or so its been interfered with by a Thai holiday. The Beach Road is full of holiday makers, mostly Thai but some foreigners, all shoving little boats full of flowers into the water. Charming, but it does tend to drive away the ones I'm looking for.
Another report - stopped in at the Pump Station at midnight. I think it was a mistake as by that hour the girls are all tired and not very motivated, having already made money during the day. Or maybe its just the holiday - at any rate, I got no attention till the mamasan made a girl come deal with me (whatever happened to customer service). Then, upstairs she started angling for a 'tip' before she even started - I should've just walked out then. She actually was about to put a condom on me for a blow job, and then expected an additional or generous 'tip' for bareback. I made her name the price and she said '500' - laughable given one can get BJ and FS for that price in town. And that was in addition to the 370 that the 'bar charges' as all the girls claim. Of course the truth is the total charge is 370, no tip required. So I told her forget it, I'm leaving, at which she changed her tune and started to do her job. Not surprisingly she was very bad at it, so I just let her suck for 15-20 minutes but refrained from coming. I wanted to make her work a bit for the 370 baht, but I figure why waste an orgasm on some lousy second rater who can't do her job, and who's also apparently been spoiled by people overpaying. Its like a bad meal - sure you have to pay for it, but does that mean you should force yourself to eat it when there's something delicious down the street?
I will arrive in Pattaya on Nov 25. I have a first timer friend accompanying me. I will be on Soi 8 and at Gilligan's on Pattayaland Soi 1. I speak almost fluent Thai. E-mail me here if you want to hook up. you can leave a message and phone # with Elvis at Gilligan's. He knows me as Mike's friend, "Bg Jim" from back home.
I am then heading on to the Philippines and then to Hong Kong and China. Will be there no more than 4 days this trip.
Poo,
I have never partied in Bkk. I always go straight to Pattaya. Same in PI, I go straight to Angeles City. Having all the info on other areas, I figure I'd go to the places that have the biggest bang for the buck. lol Cambodia is on my short list for next March, I hope...
Bud
Brandon Lee
Scroll back, the bars that were mentioned are mostly in soi 6.
Opebo
Thanks for your reply. With so many Thai tourists, how do you tell the difference?
Last time I was there, if there was a lone girl on the beach, she was looking to provide service. I am sensative to the Thai people and culture and would not like to appear insulting by making an approach that might be considered rude.
No doubt all will become clear as I soak up some rays.
Opebo are you living in Pattaya? Care to email me if you wish? Not quite sure how to pass you my email but I will try the PM system in due course.
Best wishes to all.
Roulette
I will be in Pattaya from Jan 25 through Jan 31 for the first time in four years for some serious relaxation and mongering. Does anyone know of a gym where a visitor can can work out?
Also, is there a place in Pattaya where people meet to play chess?
Thanks in advance.
Carabu
Dragon Slayer,
Does this mean you are buying the beer and providing ladies FOC? Count me in.
I spent a couple of weeks in Pattaya last month. Everything is about the same. Short time on soi 6 id still 500 B with 200 to 350 for the short time room. You can still get jurked off for a 80B ladies drink or a BBBJ on your bar stool for an extra 100 B tip.
WARNING: Watchout for the motorcycles on sois 7 and 8. I was hit from behind by one on soi 7 at about 8:00 pm. He never stoped. I got knocked down, cut up arm and broken nose. I took the right attitude and told myself that I was lucky to walk away.
The soi six bar Iss Laugune moved to Nakua road around soi 18. Owner loves Americans and speaks English. She has brought down some pretty young girls from the northern villages. I told Iss tha I would put up her card and a picture of the girl I had in the back room.
The pictures are too big. I'll resize them and post them next.
For Carabu:
There is a large free standing gym on the main beach road. It is like a Golds Gym.
Here is one of Iss's girls.
This is the Iss Bar business card. I am posting it separately because I am not sure if it is allowed. The Boss may delete it. The girls here are worth the extra 5 minutes on the Bhat Bus past the circle intersection.
Just arrived in LOS, rooms are4 a bit more expensive, but food remains super cheap. I'm a newbie to the WSG but have been here several times. Into the golf scene besides the soapies, rubs, and tugs. There is a nice health club but it has gotten more expensive by 40 %. Its the dusit resort at the dolphin circle, north end of Pattaya. Monthly = 3600 Baht , 3 months = 9600 B.
Chess can be had at the 3rd floor food court in the Royal Garden Shopping Center on Beach Road.
Off to do MP duty. Hope to meet some mongers to compare notes. Please contact me via a private message using the WSG Forum's Private Message service.
P.S. Plan to go to Peru in Feb, 04. Lima, Cusco, and Machu Piccu (?) are of interest. Got experiences? Weather? Hotels?
Cruk & Guys,
I will be buying the "first round" of drinks at Giligan's GoGo Club on Pattayaland Soi 1 on Dec 26. Elvis is good for a round also (club mgr). From there it will be off to Club Nevada on Soi Parsenne (Post Office Street).
We will eventually end up at Soi 8, but NOT at Alamo Bar (american Club) and enough about the drunken slobs in there. Look for us at "Chicken Farm Beer Bar", "Sexy Ladies", "Blue Dragon", and other Thai owned establishments where htere are few drundken losers and tons of gorgeous ladies.
Ask for the Dargon Slayer, the big American who speaks Thai
Pop Gun mai krap.
Sawadee Krap
Carabu,
I like to use the Sitpholec gym on the 2nd floor of the weekender hotel which is adjacent to the Sabai room body massage and Big C shopping center across soi 2. Free weights, pin adjust weights, treadmills etc. It is the home of the Muy thai kickboxing team with full ring and pads. Instructors available for hire. Free water and clean towel. 150b/day 1000b/mo. Serious gym, not for pretenders and "look at me's"
First report, in Pattaya now.
Some of you guys are asking for "Edenish" places. Found one even better.
Place called Thai Rose at the corner of Soi 6 and Second road. Two girls dragged me in. Names were "Kai" and "Bee". They started groping me (really good) until I agreed to take them both up to a room.
In the room, both took turns giving me a bbbj to start, then Bee rode on top of me like crazy. After that, Kai got on top of me. I started fingering her anus. She said, "You want fuck me there?" I said "Yes." So I got behind her and started fucking her up the ass. Meanwhile, Bee was licking my balls and anus. She wanted to finger my anus but I stopped her. "Exit only" is mine. Then I switched from Kai's ass to her pussy, still doggy style.
Then I finished with her missionary. All the while Bee was licking me all over the place. Just about the best session I've had.
500 Baht a piece for a total of 1000 baht, plus some room charge or something (about 350 baht).
Well worth it though.
Just a warning though. I'm what women consider to be a really good looking guy. I don't know if everyone would get the same treatment.
I will land in Pattaya on 26th Nov - staying at Penthouse - its my 1st time here so can anyone steer me towards good bars where I can find:
Young (but legal) cuties ...
Bars where 3 some's are possible (not in the bar though ...)
Better still if any of you more "experienced" members would care to leave me a contact point for you that I can pick up when I check in then I will meet you - buy you a very small beer and listen to your gd advise.
If u can leave a note for Rob Cruk - I should be there about 2pm on the 26th.
Thanks in advance.
Coupler,
Soi Six is great, you're right. However I don't think the customer's appearance is going to make much difference. Keep reminding yourself they're there for your money, not because you turn them on. The way you'll know otherwise is when they stop charging you. If they do seem to be making an extra fuss over you it is probably that they want the feather in their cap of having a 'good looking' guy choose them - something to lord over the other girls, nothing to do with sexual excitement.
Cruk - you're looking for specific specialities in Pattaya, like bars with girls who do threesomes, etc. The thing about Pattaya is that its a huge volume of very homogenous product. The bars are all really similar, except there are maybe a couple of price ranges based on the girl's appearance. As far as I can tell the majority of girls in any bar will agree to threesomes just to get a customer. Whether or not they'll be good at it or totally awkward is hit or miss. In my experience any given girl will always be a better performer and more flexible alone than with another girl there to watch and judge her.
Coupler
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Just a warning though. I'm what women consider to be a really good looking guy. I don't know if everyone would get the same treatment.
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LOL, do you really believe that "hey, handsome man" that most TGs will throw at you ? Every guy is handsome at soi 6. Stay there for a few minutes and watch the girls how they approach the customers walking by.
Anyway, have fun
Coupler,
you wrote: ".....Just a warning though. I'm what women consider to be a really good looking guy. I don't know if everyone would get the same treatment..."
Welcome to Thailand you lucky guy....
juice
Coupler
Further to your................."I'm what women consider to be a really good looking guy. I don't know if everyone would get the same treatment."
Unless you look like the elephant man (even then if the cash was right!) Then anyone would get the same treatment!
No doubt you believed your Thai "aquaintances" when they said that you were their first, after leaving the farm the week before!
Remember, be a little cynical and you can enjoy Thailand's pleasures without getting burnt!
Handsum man Cupler,
Just a warning though. I'm what women consider to be a really good looking guy. I don't know if everyone would get the same treatment.
The reason your good looking is they can see your wallet bulging in your cycling shorts, we all look pretty good in the dark!
Considering a visit to Pattaya to spend my remaining holidays in december and would greatly appreciate someone answering as I did not find the info in the reports.
1.If the rate is about 500 BHT for a SHORT TIME. What does it mean by Thailand standard ? (In Europe it means 10-15 min) ?
2.Is there a general price for an all nighter or is it all up to chemistry and bargaining ?
3.Besides all the comfort and sights in Thailand. One is spending money on the flight, so to make it worth the visit for mongering imho I would expect a beauty, a rate somewhere near 700 BHT including half an hour fucking, fees to the bar & hotel. Can that be realized without any hassle in Pattaya ??
4.Are the prices fixed or is it possible to bargain ?
5.Are you pushed to drink something in the bars or clubs or free to stay and choose your TG ?
6.What are the means of transport from Bangkok Airport to Pattaya. How much is a taxi, how much is a bus or a train and where to find it ?
7.When taking a TG up your room, can you be relaxed about your valuables, apart from the general caution, or do you have to be paranoid if your camera or wallet is lying somewhere openly ? Does the same apply when you take two girls at the same time ?
8.Is Pattaya an area which caters mainly to mongering or does one encounter a lot of general tourists in the bar areas or the girl-friendly Hotels ? I remember an odd sight of a family ( and the possibly disapproving faces of the action going on) with their kids strolling next to the GoGo Bars.
9.Are the bars free of Kathoys and other species somewhere in the middle ?
10.Is worth to leave Pattaya and travel to other towns nearby with Taxi or Bus for some action and possibly better selection and prices ?
11.Why could you recommend Pattaya instead of other locations in Thailand ?
Okay, Okay, I get it. Yes, I see it everywhere, every man is handsome and sexy. Thanks for putting me in my place.
Anyway, I was throwing out a "just in case" just in case someone didn't get treated the same way, just so I wouldn't be seen as a liar.
By all means, check this place out. If you're into anal, Kai seems to really enjoy it. She said something about "chicken". Something about her name meaning "chicken."
Hey guys why you all are behind "Cupler"
If he thinks he got an extra ordinary treatment becuase of being Handsome Man, let him be happy. There is nothing wrong. He may be really a handsome man & some girls may be happy to sleep with him even for free. We have lot more who are ready to sleep with our wallet. Why you guys drop into pond if jealous.
Enjoy...
Hi Coupler,
I will check out the Soi 6 place. FYI Soi 6 is known as "Brothel Alley". A pal, Wolfgang (the "Wolf"), owns a Harley Biker Bar/Brothel there (can you believe it). The Bulldog had some cute babes there also. Bob the Slob used to hangout on Soi 6 (before the booze/tabacco killed him). He was just like his moniker, a fat slob. Yet, he also claimed the ladies loved him, for himself.
Least expensive place there is the oldest, Was there back in 1989 when I made my first trip ( this will be trip # 74). It is called King Kong. But the ladies are interested in a quick fuck and drop you like a "bad habit" if they find you want to relax and have a beer or two.
I get in late on the night of Nov 26. I will have my black , "dragon" shirt on so any of you guys can recognize me. I speak near fluent Thai (passable Japanese and ok Mandarin).
02:00AM that night on Soi 8 around "Beer Bar Row.
Note: one of you asked about "Flipper Lodge". Make reservations and get a confirmation #. They once lost my reservation and were fully boked twice after when I just dropped by. This is now the high season for the Euro guys there.
Rob Brown
>>1.If the rate is about 500 BHT for a SHORT TIME. What does it mean by Thailand standard ? (In Europe it means 10-15 min) ?
The rate for a ST at the beach road or at soi 6 is 500 BHT, bargirl around 800, freelancers around 1000 and gogo girls 1000-1500. Prices can vary though.
ST means at soi 6 around 90-120 mins, all others one or two time of bonking, no time limit, but most chicks might try to spend just 120 mins max to get another customer :-)
>>2.Is there a general price for an all nighter or is it all up to chemistry and bargaining ?
The latter, but it will be in the above mentioned price range.
>>3.Besides all the comfort and sights in Thailand. One is spending money on the flight, so to make it worth the visit for mongering imho I would expect a beauty, a rate somewhere near 700 BHT including half an hour fucking, fees to the bar & hotel. Can that be realized without any hassle in Pattaya ??
700 including girl, bar and hotel ?
At soi 6 (bar and room 250, girl 500) or a beach road girl for 500, no barfine and back to your room, otherwise no. Beauties will charge you. They know that they are cute and can get better customers than you. But all depends on your taste :-)
Ask Freeler for a few pics of 300 BHT ho's and check if you like it.
>>4.Are the prices fixed or is it possible to bargain ?
It is possible, but will probably ruin the experience. Anyway, it's high season then and you are not the only one. You will get what you pay for.
>>5.Are you pushed to drink something in the bars or clubs or free to stay and choose your TG ?
At gogos you will probably being pushed to buy at least one drink, At bars sometimes no need to.
>>6.What are the means of transport from Bangkok Airport to Pattaya. How much is a taxi, how much is a bus or a train and where to find it ?
Taxi 300 BHT. Never took a bus. Freeler might know that.
>>7.When taking a TG up your room, can you be relaxed about your valuables, apart from the general caution, or do you have to be paranoid if your camera or wallet is lying somewhere openly ? Does the same apply when you take two girls at the same time ?
Usually TG's don't steal, but a minority might. It never happened to me during the last 20 yrs though. Girls from a bar or gogo can be tracked down, but freelancers and beach road girls are harder to get.
>>8.Is Pattaya an area which caters mainly to mongering or does one encounter a lot of general tourists in the bar areas or the girl-friendly Hotels ? I remember an odd sight of a family ( and the possibly disapproving faces of the action going on) with their kids strolling next to the GoGo Bars.
Why do you care about it ? If families go into a bar area they have to deal wth it, nobody told them to be there. Some will also share the same hotel with you but not the same room :-)
>>9.Are the bars free of Kathoys and other species somewhere in the middle ?
Nope, depends where you go (stupid question)
>>10.Is worth to leave Pattaya and travel to other towns nearby with Taxi or Bus for some action and possibly better selection and prices ?
Depends what you like. Manola in Rayong and Happy World on the way to Chonburi are real nice places to be. But I guess they will be too expensive for you.
>>11.Why could you recommend Pattaya instead of other locations in Thailand ?
I couldn't, every place has it's own advantages and disadvantages. Flesh is available almost everywhere in the Kingdom.
All in all it sounds that you are either on a extremly limited budget or an extremly cheap charlie. I guess you should reconsider to go to thailand and better spend the money for your ticket on a local ho. You should also consider to travel to cambodia instead, much cheaper girls available.
Don't get me wrong, there is nothing wrong in not overpaying, but you sound quite different. Anyway, peace man.
Have fun
The_Traveler,
Taxi 300 BHT. ????
A van perhaps? Taxi's are B800, or at least they were in August.
Interesting point: Families in bars. The girls like to have kids in the bar. Kids don't grab, kids don't get drunk, kids are nice people, the girls like to get the kids a coke. And then they take daddy upstairs for a quicky. But momma don't know. Damn, you would almost start to like Pattaya.
Freeler
Pardon me, you are right.
Was thinking about Bangkok Airport to Hotel in Bangkok (e.g. Suk area).
Rob Brown wrote: [i]One is spending money on the flight, so to make it worth the visit for mongering imho I would expect a beauty, a rate somewhere near 700 BHT including half an hour fucking, fees to the bar & hotel. Can that be realized without any hassle in Pattaya ??[/i]
Umm, exactly where in the world can you reasonably expect to have a hotel, a beauty, bar fees and fucking in a safe and tourist-friendly place for $17.50 or 15 Euros? Please tell me, as I need to take that trip.
Just take the hotel out of the equation and you can easily do what you want in Pattaya. If you don't worry as much about a few hundred baht here or there you can have an absolute blast. I'm not against saving money, but given what you're spending on a plane ticket, how does it make sense to cheap out and limit your experience once you're there?
Thanks Freeler, Joe Zop, Traveler for your feedback and opinions
Joe Zop: "........how does it make sense to cheap out and limit your experience once you're there?"
Right, doesn't make sense, some questions were not carefully worded.( Would Love to have acess to editing options). Tried figuring out how far our currency can take us and get some idea of unfamiliar conditions, native prices, be it 10 or 100 $ . You guys answered that.
Traveler:".......... sound quite different......." - Possibly expressing myself in a non-native language contributed to that. & ".....anyway peace man"
Too few days of holidaying in the sun as someone would want to haggle over every BHT, neither cheap nor on a shoestring budget, within the average for the most part.
Rob Brown
Did not try to flame you, sorry if you got me wrong.
You just sounded so concerned about every single baht.
Will buy you a drink (if we should meet) to make it up.
Have fun
Speaking of price ranges, what's the bar fine/short time/long time price for the girls at Living Dolls? Just curious. I'd never pull one from there, no doubt out of my price range. I've just heard its the most expensive in Pattaya, wondered what that would mean.
Going back to Thailand tomorrow (Tue), was going to stay in bangkok for two days, before head down to Pattaya. Don't know what's up with the reservation at ambassador, email then three times before them reply 4 days after, by that time I already change my plan, new plan is book a room at the penthouse hotel in Pattaya for 4 days, skip Bangkok hope to have great time down in Pattaya, have anyone stay at panthouse before? Is it good? Also do any one know any good diving school in Pattaya? I would like to learn water dive while I'm there. I can't be just banging and sleeping all the time. so if anyone know a good diving school or other day time sport, please tell me.
Thanks
I have a slow week after Thanksgiving, so I booked a one week BKK getaway. I'm going to spend all but one day in Pattaya this time.
From some of the pictures posted, there are some girls with tongue and clit piercings, but I've never run across them myself. Any tips on what beer bars you've found good ones at?
I've heard of the buses that run from Don Muang to Pattaya, but don't know if they run late. I'm on the normal almost Midnight arrival, so don't know if I need a taxi.
I'm going to try staying at one of the Flipper or Eastiny properties. Any real difference between these?
I always go to Pattaya at night from the Airport. Get a cab right from the Airport. B 1500 and hold firm on that when they try to move it up to B 2200 (helps if you speak Thai, but just keep saying "Mai ow, Pang"; "No, Expensive" in English).
Buses run at set times only during the day at 09:00AM, 12:00Noon & I think 5:00PM. Late at night the cab ride will take less than two hours.
Flipper is less expensive than Eastiny. Both tend to fill up fast this time of year. When I stay on Soi 8 to be near the "action" I always go to "High Five" Hotel. I pay B 800 ($20) for a deluxe room with a kingsize bed and a nice bathroom with a bathtub.
Guys, try eating at the little Thai Restaurant on Second Road just norht of Soi 8. "Open air"' and mostly Chinese Thai eating there but you get delicious, authentic Thai food for half what you pay elsewhere. Drinks are also about the half the price. Service is great and the Thai ladies love it. I have been eating there for 10 years now. Open until about 03:30 AM each night.
JC,
I think Pattaya is a great choice for six of your seven days. And to answer your questions, First "girls with tongue rings" Soi Diamond, Diamond A GoGo and Walking Street, Living Dolls Showcase and Electric Blue.
Mini buses only direct from airport to Pattaya, spend the money and just take a taxi, after a long flight you don't want to be waiting around. Taxi should be no more than 1000 baht.
Both groups are great Flipper has two hotels and Eastiny has three, Eastiny is a little more laid back, Bella Vista (Eastiny owned) between Soi 7 and 8 is the newest of the five places, January 2003 and the lowest cost 750 baht.
Have fun.
Sexreview
To Opebo:
Re Living Dolls: I was there earlier this year and I love the girls at that place. I took three girls from there in three days.
Bar fine was 500 baht; the girl got 1,000 baht for short time and 2,000 baht for long time.
But, if you want a featured dancer or one of the serving girls (they run around in these cute blue and white school girl outfits and serve drinks) the bar fine is 600 baht.
I don't know if Living Dolls is the most expensive. The beer bars are certainly cheaper than Living Dolls. But I will absolutely go back to Living Dolls because I loved the way I was treated there and it has, in my opinion, a great selection of very sexy, young girls.
LJohnson
SR - Well, I was wondering if there was a schedule of the mini-buses to Pattaya from Don Muang. I would wait up to an hour, but more than that isn't going to work. A taxi runs about 1000 baht? I'm travelling light, so won't have to wait for baggage claim or anything.
Thanks for the other recommendations. Everytime I go to Pattaya I find another undiscovered gem.
Jaimito,
Go here:
http://www.thaiair.com/thailand/limousine/fares.htm#Schedule
bottom of the page for the Thai-bus schedule.
Freeler - Looks like the midnight one might just work if my flight isn't delayed. Thanks for the help.
I'm thinking of doing a 300 baht Beach Girl challenge. Since it's been stated that it is impossible for a big guy like me to get decent looking girls for that price.
What Soi is "lIving Dolls' located on in Pattaya? After 15 years, one thing I noticed was that girls from GoGo Bars are generally much greedier and on the "short time" basis. Each time I took one out of a GoGo place she was gone quite fast. At the Go Go Bar on Soi 8 down by Beach Road I had one who left the following afternoon because I fucked her 3 times. She said "Boom only neung" (fuck me only once), said her pussy hurt and off she went.
I found my best luck hitting on local Thai girls (remember all Thai girls, and ALL Asian girls like to fuck) and taking my time and shopping in the various Beer Bars on the many Sois. This has produced some really nice ladies over the years.
I arive in Pattaya around 02:00AM on Nov 25 (not 26 as I mentioned before). I will be out that night on Soi 8 on the "Beer Bar Row" on the south side of the Soi. It is now possible, since my "first timer" got scared and backed out (already had his ticket, the pathetic wimp), that my Thai Lady may come down from Surin to meet me at the Airport (hate downtime; this allows for plent of fucking in the back of the limo). Look for me in my black, silk dragon shirt
See all you guys in Thailand on November 25-26.
Jaimito Cartero,
I missed the midnight arrival in your post...
The Thai Airport-Pattaya buses only run 9 morning, 12 midday and 7 evening.
I'm sorry if this gave you any hope of smooth, cheap Airport to Pattaya transportation.
Good luck doing your B300 challenge.
Go fuck'em!
I'm looking forward to some pics in my mail:)...
Freeler - They list 12:00am as a trip, which I've always taken to mean 12 midnight. Of course, this is Thailand, and they might just throw salt in perfectly good orange juice. :)
Jaimito Cartero,
It would be nice if the whole world turned to 00.00-24.00 time format.
You could try and ring your local ThaiAirwaysOffice - they should have the answer.
I'll check and see if they have a US phone number to call. If no midnight one, I'll probably stay in Bangkok and go to Chatujak on Sunday.
Anyone ever stay in a hotel by the Chatujak Weekend Market in Bangkok? (Yes, I know this isn't the right place, but figger'ed I'd tack it on anyway.) I might as well get some nice Christmas presents, and hate lugging stuff up the steps to the Skytrain or paying a taxi in horrible (everyday!) traffic.
Hi guys, my typing is so labor intensive i wouldn't get any mongering in if I were to report live from the battlefields so will contribute when I return to the states. BUT am staying at corner of soi 13/beach road AA hotel (room 506) in Pattaya should anyone be around and fancy a drink. I will be there till Saturday. Nice hotel by the way with pool fronting directly on beach road and only 3 stories above. Easy shouting distance. AA also owns another hotel up the same soi which is a bit newer/nicer at standard 800bt delux 1100bt and well worth it. Beds are much to hard for me though.
JC. Have wanted to meet you and say thanks for all your excellent help on Costa Rica this last feb. I see you are in Bkk. I'll be there this Sat-m Mon if your able. I will be staying on Suk somewhere near soi8. PM me if you find you'll have the time.
Wanderlust - I'm not in LOS yet. I'll be arrive late, Sat Nov 29. Looks like I'll just stay in BKK that night, and take a bus from Ekamai out in the afternoon.
trip report
first of all boyz, i must say that i’ve banged hot chicks in the 4 corners of the globe but no where on earth i have every found a prettier, friendlier, nicer and generally more wonderful bunch of girls than i just met in pattaya. don’t be too surprised if you fall in love with the girls and this place.
pattaya is not a great beach resort, by any standards, especially thailand which has some best beach places anywhere, like ko samui, krabi, ko [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url]-[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url], etc. but the night life is beyond compare. having said that, i quickly gravitated to one place, the climax beer bar (http://www.pattaya-at-night.com/climax/index.html). for me this was the ultimate night hang out. the house band is the best bar cover band i have ever heard. in addition to all your standard bar r&r favorites like ac-dc, zep, etc, they do a superb job on more complex music like pink floyd and metallica. they are also the hardest working band i ever seen, playing from 9 to 2 or 3am every night without a break. what do these guys use for bladder? i guess they sweat it all off.
also the crowd in there is a great bunch of folks, many of the same people every night so it’s easy to make friends if traveling alone.
however, the reason you are probably on this site is the girls. many of them are at least a 9+ and a couple of 10’s included in the boss, nee (not available btw). see below and the pics on the pictures part of this forum.
i originally hooked up with a very nice girl, mai. she is so sweet, and very accommodating, but i quickly sensed she was maybe a little too into me and i wasn’t there to get married, so in as nice a way as possible, i told her there was a couple of other girls at the bar i was into too. this is kind of an awkward situation because all the girls knew i was with mai and it would have been a major embarrassment for here in front of her friends if i flirted openly with other specific girls. so i mainly hung out with mai in the bar and flirted a bit with the other girls for fun while all the while quietly falling in love with kai. (all these girls seem to have one syllable names!). anyhow things worked out pretty well in the end i would say, i think i did the right thing by helping mai save face and i’m taking kai to ko samui for a week on my next trip.
i guess the point of my rather bloated story is we are not just talking about a bunch of slag hookers here. these are beautiful girls who just happen to make a living on the generosity of guys they sleep with. i’m sure there are parts of the job that they hate, but i get a genuine sense that in general they like meeting farangs, dating them and fucking them. it seems almost more common for them to fall in love with us and miss us when we leave than the other way round.
on one of my rare side adventures outside of my hotel room (i recommend the royal palace hotel on 2nd road around soi 13 btw, 1200/night for a nice, big room with sea view) and the climax bar, i went to a message place, called p p massage i think. it’s a bit out of town, a driver took me there.
they have about 50 girls on bleacher behind the glass, many of them 9’s and 10’s also. i chose ah-nee (2 sylables, go figure!), no. 51 i think. she was fucking amazing!!!!! all business, she controlled me like i was her little puppy dog. every move choreographed like a cirque du soliel performance. i had never had a soapy before but wow, is that a life changing experience.
she gets you on an air mattress and washes you up and down with her pussy, and i mean every square inch of you. then she did this slidey thing where she puts her legs under yours, launches her self under you and messages you from underneath!! that was so fucking cool! she does a bunch of other great body entwined stuff too which has to be experienced to be believed. when we got to the bedroom it was all business too, just the right amount of jb and then the 4 greatest words in the thaiglish language, “you fuck i mista!”. i was so completely ready at that point, it didn’t take too long but the whole experience was fantastic. the best b2000 i every spent.
first and last nights were in bkk of course. first night i couldn’t get the nana so i ended up in the ambassador. bastards charged me 500 for the girl on top of a shitty room with 2 single beds. got a nice girl at the nana disco, not very proficient at sex but very cuddly afterwards. last night at the nana, the place to stay in the nana plaza area but it seems to fill up fast so book early. i got pulled in by a bar girl and had to pay the b500 bf and she wasn’t worth it. should have stuck with plan a and hung out at the nana disco or just picked up a girl right outside for free.
my recommendation, if you have time, “interview” for a nice girl in pattaya then take her somewhere romantic like ko samui for a few days.
so go forth and multiply but don’t mess up any of my girls.
Greetings Hobbyist,
Plan on going to Thailand in the near future, and I was wondering what the drug situation is regarding the BarGirls there. Are most of them "Yaba" addicts and if I picked up one of these BarBabes, what are the chances of me picking one that is an addict? Also, what are the consequences of her being busted in possession of "Yaba" while I am with her. Would I get in trouble too?
Any and all information are welcome.
Personal regards,
CC
Nok, Nok, Who's There? Nok, that's who!
It took me three days to finaly get into my groove here. Even though I studied Thai girls on the web for 2 years before finally coming to Pattaya, it still took some personaly eperience to find my way around this tangled web of love that the bar girls weave.
Thursday night was mixed bag for me, having a total non-GFE experience with Nui from SuperBaby, followed by some OK fun with bargirl Nok from the Minnie Bar. I will call her Nok1, for reasons that will soon become apparent.
Nok1 went home at my request early Friday afternoon. She is friendly, fun, and pretty, but she kisses with her mouth closed. I need good old fashioned tongue action to spring a boner. Strange, I know. But I just love kissing, I guess. It is the strongest connection to my libido.
Spent the afternoon with no purpose whatsoever. Had a suit measured up for me at King's Tailors on Walking Street (any of you guys have any comments about this place?). A silk shirt and cashmere suit for $4,200B. Hope it fits and looks good when I pick it up today.
Went for my first-ever soapie at Sabai Room, the place beside the Sitpholec gym. I had number 157, her name was Paa and she was gorgeous. Natural, full breasts, beautiful smile. She sang Thai songs to me in the bathtub, and I started to feel something akin to love for her. Worth the price of admission, that beautiful voice echoing throughout the tiled tub room. But alas, DFK and BBBJ were not to be found on the menu, so no pop for me, even after gulping down a Vitamin V earlier. A lovely time none the less.
Friday night went to the grand opening at the Mandarin Club on Soi 6. You guessed it, free pig roast. Real friendly girls there. They prefer short time, but will go LT if you are nice to them. And I was nice to Nok, or as I shall call her, Nok2. Nok Nok, who's there? Nok2, that's who. She was very gentle and soft, and brought me a plate of food the minute that it was cooked. I asked her to wait for me that night, as I needed to go for another fitting at the suit shop.
I did the fitting, and then went back to Minnie Bar to find a dissapointed Nok1 waiting for me. Time to juggle, Pattaya style. I tod her that I was tired, and asked her to meet me at 2:00 in the afternoon the next day. No, I won't stand her up. Then returned to the Mandarin Club, and payed the 500B bf for Nok2. We went dancing at the incredibly expensive Tony's on Walking Street; 130B per drink. Ouch. She was not into dancing, as her feet were sore. Ouch.
So back to the hotel we went, and I convinced her to hop into the tub with me. I gave her a long and soapie foot massage; she started to smile widely. Then bed time, and she was a great French kisser. YES!! Two pops, no problem, and then to sleep. She got up at 9:00 in the morning and went home, to her boyfriend I think.
Time now to go and meet Nok1 for an afternoon of whatever I want...."Up to You...."
I think I finaly found my groove here in Pattaya.
Raz
Ras - It's hard to be forceful at first with the girls. I had a couple of similar situations where I would feel that I had to see a certain girl if I had seen her before.
If a girl acts hurt now, I just put a little smile on, shrug, and say that I'm a butterfly man. The beer bar beauty I found in Orn Beer bar last September, the girl that dragged me off the street was nice, but I just had eyes for Kai. I just be honest, and don't lie to them. I tell them I'm just in Thailand for fun. It's worked well so far.
Gents,
At last, my first post. I have been researching for weeks now, but cannot decide where to visit, Phuket or Pattaya? I am an absolute first timer, so any thoughts and suggestions would be appreciated. I get the impression that Phuket is more expensive, less choice (both quality and quantity) but more of a "holiday/beachy" destination. Am I way off the mark?
Any help greatly appreciated.
Hey, guys.
I got an email from my "little friend" from Pattaya who used to work at Living Dolls. She tells me she is now at Champion A Go Go. I don't remember that one.
Can anyone tell me anything about Champion A Go Go?
Thanks,
LJ
My Last Day in Pattaya, and I'm Not in Love. Damn!
It is my last day in Pattaya today. But something is missing. I came to Thailand with the completely selfish desire to have a lovely brown skinned lady fall in love with me. To ask me when I am leaving, and to see a tear or two when I tell her that it will be soon. But that has not happened.
Maybe it is just the law of averages. Perhaps love was not meant to be on this first trip. Maybe that experiened is reserved for the second visit, I don't know. It's not that I am fat or ugly; I work out almost every day and am sometimes called handsome. It's not that I am a jerk; all but one of the 5 girls this week have commented that I am a "good man" to them. It's not that I am a Cheap Charlie; I pay the market rate and take them to good restaurants and night clubs. Maybe it's because it takes me a long time to cum, but I doubt it; not one girl has complained yet of being sore.
But for some reason, I have not had the memorable experience of falling in love with a Thai lady, or her with me. I travel to south China often, and have had amazing luck there. Soft, tender Chinese girls that truly fall in love with me, and treat me like a King. But here, I guess I am just another farang with a camera around his neck and a credit card in his pocket.
Anyone care to console me with their experiences to the similar or to the contrary?
Also, thanks to Jimito (spelling?) for the words of wisdom a couple of posts below.
Raz
Ras: My heart goes out to you. I do not always find true love in third world brothels either.
ljohnson: I am happy for your friend. Is she in the typing pool there?
Skinless -
Yes. I'm sure my friend was hired at Champion based on her "forty words per minute" typing skills (more likely her ablility to take "dick-tation" I suspect!)
But, really, do you or anyone else have anything good or bad to say about Champion A Go GO. I never heard of it.
LJ
Ljohnson,
A quick search came up with two Champions:
Champion, no further information
Champion a go go, this one is presumably located 'in the Strip, just before Lucky Star'.
Drinks are '$69Baht', whatever currency that is:(!
Raz: I guess it has something to do with your version of love.
I think it's unrealistic to have someone 'fall in love' with someone they just met, paid to bone, and is leaving in 5 days.
Do you fall in love like that? I don't.
Now if you're talking about the fantasy so many of these girls spin to make the farang THINK they are in love with them, well, that happens a lot. Remember in Thailand what is said is quite often different than what someone truly feels. This is especially true for bargirls.
More realistic is to immerse yourself in the fantasy then when the time is over leave.
ljohnson
Champion GoGo is just opposite Marine Bar, a bit laid back. Small long stretched GoGo in which they used to show porn videos, but haven't seen them on my last trip (4 weeks ago).
Champion is one of the older GoGos, I know it about 10yrs now, maybe even longer. They host about 20-30 girls I think, mostly average looking and just one or two cute ones. Since I am choosy it might be different for you. Drinks are cheap compared to others like e.g. Living Dolls.
Above Champion is a huge screen where you can look football / soccer games and play pool.
The whole place is easy to find.
Have fun
Thank you Freeler and Traveler for the responses re Champion.
My "friend" worked at Living Dolls and reported to me via email that she is now at Champion. She is a girl I met in Pattaya earlier this year and, of all the ones I "encountered" I had the overall best time with her. That is interesting to me because I was so hot to try the youngest and most beautiful girls I could find; and I did that and enjoyed them vey much. But when I think back on my trip, the overall best time was with this one and...while very attractive and fantastic in bed, she was neither the youngest nor the most beautiful. I guess that is a familiar story for several of us.
I'm actually glad she left Living Dolls. Now I can go back there (I like Living Dolls) and enjoy myself without worrying about offending her. After a couple of days or so, I'll look her up and see if the magic is still there.
I see Champion now on the Walking Street map.
Thanks, guys, for your input.
LJ
I went into Living Dolls this year and they wouldn't move off 2000 baht ST. The girls did look young and cute, but 2000 baht, plus barfine is a no-no in my book.
I agree that my best times were spent with older girls (25-32) and ones that couldn't get a job at LD. A stuck-up Starfish isn't my idea of a good night.
JC,
I have bar fined at least 15 girls many of them feature dancers from Living Dolls& Living Dolls Showcase over the last six months, and not one of them asked for 2000 baht short time. Never found it a problem getting Living Dolls girls for 1000 baht ST. But I guess everyone is different when it comes to finding girls and fees paid.
Sexreview
Raz,
If you hang out in the prositution areas hoping to fall in love with a girl you might get what you want but you may also get suckered into sending this woman money from the states every month. I do know that chinese woman can pretend to love you hoping you will marry them and bring them back to the states. I believe chinese woman in general would rather be with a chinese man.I experienced this and see it alot. I do think that woman if they put their mind and pus-y to it can get what ever they want. When you have a green card and they don't be careful.
SR - Good to know. Perhaps the first couple I asked were hard cases, or just smelled big baht in the air. That's the nice thing about WSG. You get a lot of different opinions and experiences.
Jaimito -
My experience was the same as Sexreview. At Living Dolls (I never went to the Showcase location) I paid either 500 or 600 baht barfine (depending on the status of the girl) and 1,000 baht ST, 2,000 baht LT. I saw no variation from that. I did tip some extra, of course, for good service.
LJ
I'll be coming to the Flipper Lodge on Sunday. Late afternoon or evening, I think. If anyone wants to get together post here.
JC
There is a gal named Vicki at Blue Bar in the beer bar group on Beach Road about soi 8 that has piercing (tongue). Blue Bar fronts directly onto beach and is in the sw corner of the group. Speaks exceptional English complete with English accent. A bit on the meaty side for me personally but then I like the tiny ones. I’d say she is alittle bit overweight by Thai standards. Pixy haircut. 19 yr old. BBBJTC . 300 bf + 1000 LT
HOTELS
Checked out several different hotels this trip and can recommend two of them. Both on soi 13. Both owned by the same company and called “AA”.
I took pix of the rooms and will try to attach but not sure if they are sized correctly. My software does not allow reduction without cropping.
The first one really had it all going on. Beautiful large new rooms which included an attached mini living/play room besides the bed area, king size beds, lots of mirrors, dark full curtains, balcony on some units. Also there are 4 penthouse units accessed via spiral staircases at the 4 corners of the building. Same price if available. All rooms I saw were finished in natural stained woods. Very nice. Pool is top side with swim up bar. Friendly honest staff. Decent breakfast buffet for 85 baht. Rates are 800bt standard and 1000bt deluxe (pictured). Very quiet at night here although the beds were a bit hard for me personally, which is why I moved to their other property on the corner of beach road and soi 13. Over-all a great stay for those who like firm beds.
NAME: AA Residence
LOCATION: Half way down soi 13 off Beach Road.
CONTACT: aaresidence@yahoo.com
PHONE: (038) 423403, 410565
FAX: (038) 421271
ADDRESS: 109/20 MOO 10 SOI 13 Beach Road Pattaya City 20260
Another view of AA residence room
HOTELS
This is the other AA property I stayed at. I’ll have to post these individually to keep the attached photo’s separate.
As I stated in the previous post I moved to this (AA’s second property) because the beds were so much softer here. Altho this is a bit older hotel it is still maintained very well and has a few very positive advantages over AA Residence. I love the location of this Hotel. Most specifically the pool which sits only 25 feet directly above and overlooking the beach and Beach Road. There is a lot to be said for having the ability to set yourself down with a cold bear at poolside, and watch all the poony walk by at your feet. If one walks by that catches your fancy, just call her upstairs. Ahhhhhhh……. be still my heart!
These rooms also have the mirrored kingsized headboards for your pleasure. AA Hotel positively has the hottest showers in town bar none. I thought the over-all quality of the rooms themselves to be slightly higher then the rooms I’ve had at Flipper. There is a suite which goes for 1200bt and encompasses the NW corner 2nd floor I am told.
Standard Room Breakfast included at 750bt.
NAME: A.A. Pattaya Hotel
PHONE: (038) 428-656, 420-894
FAX: (038) 429-057
LOCATION: (Corner Beach and Soi13) 182-182/2 Soi 13 Beach Road
More AA Hotel @ beach road and soi 13
Room
More AA Hotel @ beach road and soi 13
VIEW
More AA Hotel @ beach road and soi 13
POOL
Sorry about all the separate posts guys but length and photo segregation dictates. PLEASE don't do to me as was done to that good 'ol boy Samus! AAARRGG.
HOTELS- 150bt fan room
Here’s one for our cuz from the Ozarks. With shower and balcony to Soi Honey. Queen bed. I took a pix but somehow it broke my camera. Go figure. I actually stayed here years ago when it was new and you could still see the paint on the walls. The staff is friendly,cute and honest. Laundry and phone.
NAME: New Star
Location: About half way down Soi Honey towards Soi Buakao
HOTELS- 500bt A/C, Pool, Newer
This Hotel (Siam Sawasdee) is the best of the lot from the Sawasdee Chain in Pattaya. Decent sized rooms. Clean. Nice Pool. Excellent staff. MX rentals at 150bt per day. Ask to stay on the west or south side as the north side boarders a large group of very late night bars on soi skaw. These guys offer rooms in many price ranges and locations in Pattaya as well as BKK and I believe Chang Mai also. A good solid reputable company offering good value. I’ve stayed at several. Their web site offers pix, pricing and location of properties in Thailand.
NAME: SIAM SAWASDEE
LOCATION: Corner of Soi Buakao and Soi Honey
PHONE: (038) 720329
CONTACT: http://www.sawasdee-hotels.com
my hat’s off to raz for some excellent and entertaining reporting. although i had every bit as much fun i’ll leave it to the writers to entertain. they somehow can make the 1000th fuck and suck seem like the very first time. i did however run into (again) a gem on beach road i can share with you guys. now before you peek at the pix below and call me all kinds of vile names, gimme a sec to clearify. ok! she ain’t a 10! but she is a very solid 7 maybe even an 8? the only reason i even bother posting this pix is that if you run into her on beach road you should say hi. this gal is a real hoot. besides loving to f/s she speaks good english, is always laughing and clowning around and has a 10 personality. ain’t bad looking either. this one is a lot of all around fun. her name is lee, works the lower beach road. 22 yr old. has had no kids. had her 3 different days this trip. tested her honesty several times. good guide as well. i liked this one a lot. freelancer at 1000bt lt + muzzelbag. ok i’m joking! i did buy her meals though and she does eat an awful lot for an 80 pounder. good thing for me her favorite meal is rice soup.
I am waiting here at Narita in Tokyo waiting for the delayed NWA flight to BKK. I am about to pass out from lack of sleep! Leave on Friday morn and get to BKK on Sunday morning. Sheeeesh.
A couple of neat things at the airport. They have nice shower rooms for 300 yen for 1/2 an hour. Plus they have free Centrino internet stations. Now you can't check your email, but you can see the pictures people have uploaded. Some small consolation, I guess.
I wonder if they'll throw me in jail if I leave some nice pictures up?
Wanderlust,
Just wanted to say thanks for the good reporting of the AA hotels and the pic's. Nothing like a pic to show what it really seems like. Lee seems like a cutie too....was she the one under the covers when you snapped the pic? hehe.....:)
Chaps,
Just back from 3 days/nights in Pattaya , had a blast - day 1 soapie was an experience (good) although it looked like I got there the same time as 2 million Japanese golfers!
Nite 1 = take away from Mistys at 1000Bt LT - - awesome lady (?) called kan 22yo and up for anything ... plus easy to kick out in the morning.
Nite 2 = actually wore myslef out golf in day and walking up n down at nite so resigned to sleep alone (dare I?) - but a last stop at Bubbles changed all that. Score a 21yo called Taim , seemed like a bad call at 1st as she was a bit aloof, but once alone and warmed up she nearly killed me off.
Stayed at the Penthouse which was OK for rooms etc - but crappy attitude - booked a party room and gave deposit etc on net to be informed on arrival - sorry we have none - standard room for you only, kind of "tough shit" - but I guess something had to go pear shaped.
Thanks to all the mongers for their insight and help getting around - gd luck to y'all and see you next time.
Cheers,
Cruk
Awesome! That's the best word I can think of to describe Pattaya. I left Bangkok on Friday, having taken up the Dynasty Inn offer to stay at their partner hotel in Pattaya. The rooms are exactly the same as in Bangkok, 990baht although they do provide free minivan transfers providing you book for at least 2 nights. Dynasty Inn Pattaya is on Soi 13(same row as Moi Maison and Lek Hotel). Initially, my first few hours were spent wandering Soi Yamato and Soi's 1,2 and 3. It was in one of these bars that I hooked up with a couple of Americans who proceeded to take me under their wing. They took me to the end of the beach to a stretch of road caled the "Walk", I think. Basically, it's one straight kilometer of gogo bars, sex shows and nightclubs. This must be heaven for any hot blooded male, in short it's Xanadu. Wandering the street for a couple of hours, we finally settled on Tony's Disco. It's a huge danceclub with live music, shows and more importantly girls. Be forwarned, the drinks in this place are on the pricey side. Draught beer for 130bt, heinekens 190bht and shots of tequilas for 80bt. Rather expensive when compared to other joints on this strip. Anyway, it didn't take us long to find some ready, willing and hot FL's in the club. Most importantly, do not pick up the chicks with numbers. You will need to pay an extra 500bt for BF. There are plenty of others to choose from. I picked one called Dom, about a 8 in looks, but more importantly, a 10 in personality. Before catching a cab back to the hotel I made a quick stop at a drug store to purchase some condoms and, with the recomendation of my American friends, some Viagra(not that I need it). A box of 4 pills will set you back 600bt. Needlessly to say I had an absolute blast of a night, 3 or 4 gos at that wonderfully smooth body before we both passed out. Oh and the damage was 1000bt LT although I did give her an extra 200bt in the morning. So for anyone contemplating coming to Pattaya, I can wholeheartly recommed it. It doesn't get any better than this.
Chikan,
All is not lost!
Every now and then there is a first timer who puts all the big spenders to shame. It's not tough love for everyone:).
Sainter,
Well done and keep fuckin'em!
You know you're in Thailand when even the Customs inspectors pats your stomach and smiles at you!
I have arrived more or less safely. I'm at the Flipper Lodge room 208. (Soi 8).
I took one beer bar girl from Soi 8, 500 baht ST. Good value, and a lot of fun. I almost thought I had another gusher, but no such luck. I was almost suffocated when she wouldn't let me up for air at DATY. Her lips swelled up so much by the time I was done. I've never seen quite that much before. (Like 4 times bigger!).
Most of the beer bar girls are all starting at 1000 baht ST. I usually just smile and tell them that I only pay 500.
It's almost like a gauntlet going up or down Soi 8. I get 3 or 4 girls who block my way, grab my dick, arms and such. It's fun the first few times. A few just jumped in my way and were almost knocked over. (Think sumo wrestlers).
Jaimito Cartero,
You mentioned that the customs officer patted your belly? How rude and inappropriate! I'm pretty sure that for a Thai you don't know very well to touch you is extremly impolite. Obviously an exception is made in situations where the customer would wish to be touched, like with bar girls and other prostitutes. In general though, Thais consider touching a stranger, particularly one of higher status, to be impolite. You as a foreigner, though you'll never be liked by Thais, should automatically recieve higher status due to your assumed wealth. I avoid touchy Thais. For example, I would never use a taxi or motorbike driver who touched me during the bargaining - and if you notice they often pat you on the back or arm. This is a way of insulting you, or at least demeaning your status, without you knowing it.
Jaimito Cartero,
Oh man, you got me all excited, just mentioning 'gusher' even if she didn't wet the sheets.
So please, if you do happen to find a squirter, take a pic for me and let me know the exact location, muchas gracias, as I would be quite willing to fill the - ehhr her - gap after you left!
"Her lips swelled up" - You should take the Viagra, not give it to her:(!
Greetings and go fuck 'em,
Freeler
Jaimito
Opebo is right. I never ever was touched by a thai who wasn't part of family, close friend or a girl. I crossed the thai border maybe a hundred times, but immigration would never dare to touch me.
I would like to know how he did it, sitting behind the counter and you in front of it. Did he do it when you walked by ? Due to your own description of yourself (and I saw your pants on a pic before ) you are much bigger than me and my belly walks never in front of me, so they are not attracted to it. I guess he might have pointed at it making a joke, but doubt he patted it ?
Anyway, have fun
Well, I was the last one in the line going through customs in Don Muang. I think he was leaving and I was his last customer, and he smiled and patted my Budda like stomach after stamping my passport. I've long since given up on being offended by much in this world. He was smiling and joking when he did it, so I took no offense.
Freeler - I went back to see my "Gusher" from Orn Beer Bar (Second Road), only to find that some damn Dutch guy took her home for 3 months. Supposed to be back in January. You can see her picture from my last trip (Aug-Sep). I called her Kai, but her name is Pin, me thinks.
I did find a nice beauty on Soi 8, 52nd something (street?) bar. A perfect name, Porn. I told her I pay 500 baht, and away she came with me. Excellent service, good attitude, and she sucks like a Hoover. All my favorite qualities. Plus she let me take pictures. I may go back tonight for seconds.
I'm amazed that so many Thai girls think smallish tits are inferior. I pray that silcon doesn't come to Thailand in a big way. So far only shaved girls. I haven't even been on Walking Street yet!
Hey sainter,
I never tried the V as I am still not at that stage but to all who have tried how is it?. 600B only? For 4? Was it the real deal? I will be in LOS in April for over a month so I will jump on that shit if its worth it.
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Wanderlust:
Thanks for the detailed report on Pattaya hotels you stayed at. Very helpful indeed. The AA Hotel and Residence both look like a better deal than the Sabai Inn on Soi 2, which is where I stayed for 5 nights in November.
Can you please tell me if the AA Hotel and Residence were both girl friendly (meaning no extra charges or hassle at the front desk when you bring a girl back to your room)?
Also, from your pictures it looks like the AA Residence room is quite large and deluxe, while the AA Hotel is smaller and not as well decorated. Is this a correct assessment?
Any hints on which room might be more quiet at night at the AA Res? It sounds like it is located on quite a busy street corner.
Thanks in advance!
Raz
Does anyone sell a small cell phone jammer? It seems that cell phones cause me grief in Thailand (and everywhere!). I'm in middle of a great session with Porn, and off goes her cell phone. Some silly Englander has knocked up her sister a couple of months back, and now is back to take her to England.
He's also totally drunk and beating on her. Sigh. I've seen drunks all over the world, but none compared to *some* of the idiots in Pattaya. Guys, show a little common sense.
And what is it with Thai girls and games? I took Porn bowling last night. She swore up and down she had never played before, and still kicked my ass. (I am pretty bad, but I'd like to win at something.)
RAZ
Both AA locations are girl friendly, no extra charge at either.
Also you are correct in your assesments of the two properties. The AA Residence is simply newer, 1 year they said. They do have standard rooms though as well for 800 bt. Just as nicely done only smaller. I didn't hear any night time noise at either place. I did forget to mention that the AA Hotel , the one on the corner of beach road, also gives a free breakfast. Both also have individual lock boxes behind the desk counter.
Since I'm already logged in and writing I've got to comment on JC. That lucky bastard.. I've just left LOS not even a week ago and now gearing up for a month building a hotel in southern Idaho. BURRRR!! And there sits Jaimito sippin' a cool one upstairs at The Pump Station with a shit eatin' grin on his face! Damn I'm already jealous. What the heck am I thinking? IDAHO??? Doesn't take very long at all to miss that part of the globe does it?
"I'm in middle of a great session with Porn"
Umm, JC, sounds like you're winning at the only game that counts... :)
JZ - Well, I like this kind of Porn better. I do detest cell phones though. No good ever comes from one in the middle of a great session.
Wanderlust - Well most of us can only have fun for awhile. You've got to work sometimes. It's been 2 1/2 months since I was back last time, and this was an unplanned side trip. No Pump Station yet. I went back in May though. I *still* haven't made it to Walking Street yet. Maybe tonight.
On a side note to "Budda tummy rubbing", about 20% of all people that I pass in Pattaya give my tummy a little rub. About 60% of these are bargirls, so you may discount that portion if you like. I am very good at scaring little children too. Perhaps the parents tell the children that I'll eat them if they don't behave.
Went to see Beautiful Boxer today at SF Cinema City. Decent, and pretty funny. Much better than I expected.
I ate my favorite duck dish at MK Restaurant in the shopping center. A lot of ducks die every time I come to Thailand. :)
Even though it's a chain, MK Restaurant is one of my favorites in Thailand. Always has decent service, and the Dim Sum at lunch is nice too.
Jaimito Cartero,
"I ate my favorite duck dish at MK Restaurant in the shopping center. A lot of ducks die every time I come to Thailand."
If you ever go North and end up in KhonKaen, try the duck restaurant two(or three) doors down from RomaHotel. They serve the best pet yaang in the Kingdom.
PS Don't you ever mess up a vacation:)?
I don't think JC ever messes up a vacation because when he goes there (or anyplace), he has the right attitude. He goes to have a great time, and have fun. He takes the good with the not so good and makes the most of it all. AND, probably most importantly, he observes and learns. That way, each time he returns someplace, he has a better time. I salute you, Jaimito Cartero. I wish I could get my ass to LOS sooner. Too bad next time I go I have to spend it with my girlfriend. No mongering for me. :((
I hear that Mr. Thaskin has shut Walking Street completely down..Is it just a rumor? or, is it going strong! Shit, I got 25 more days to get my ass there!
Hi Sainter,
in one report you have mentioned that you have met a girl DOM in Pattaya. It could be that we hd the same girl. Could you please describe her (tatoo, picture maybe etc..) it would be funny when we had the same...
Thanks a lot in advance
Sting
Hi everybody...
I am going to Badtaya on 17.12.. I would like to know the course . How much I get for 100 Euro.
Is there anything special in Badtaya?
Thanks guys
Sting
Meatman,
You posted
"I hear that Mr. Thaskin has shut Walking Street completely down..Is it just a rumor? or, is it going strong!"
While before APEC most clubs were not showing that is no longer the case. You will find Pattaya and Walking Street are going strong.
Sexreview
To Sting:
"Badtaya?" I cannot tell if you are joking. or clueless. If you mean Pattaya, are you seriously asking if there is anything there?
Read any of the posts herein and you just might find that there are thousands of young lovelies eager to show you a good time for very little money, by most Western standards.
As for how much you get for 100 Euros - you know how to use the internet, right? Find a conversion table and you can do the conversion from Euro to Baht. In Pattaya, you can generally count on spending the following:
Go-Go girls: 500 baht bar fine, 1000 baht ST, 2000 baht LT
Beer bar girls: 200-300 bar fine, 500 ST and 1,000 LT
Freelancers generally run less than the above, or about the same as beer bar girls but no bar fine (so less overall.)
Others may dispute the above numbers, but they are "in the ballpark."
However, if there really is a place called "Badtaya" then I know nothing about it and you can ignore what I just said.
Enjoy Thailand, wherever you choose to go. And, please, be nice, respectfull, to the lovely young girls of Thailand. They will repay your kindness many times over.
So I'm watching a Travel Channel wannabe here in Beijing and they had a special on Thailand. When Pattaya came on, they showed a really clean beach, lots of people playing in the water, water skiing, etc. etc. The announcer called it a tourist heaven. I think those pics and vids were from South Pattaya...
Now I know why I always see Chinese tourists in Pattaya...
I wonder why they didn't show Beach Road or Walking Street in any of da vids...
tapioca
Meat - Well they are talking about only letting Thai Rak Thai officials run who have no mistresses, but I don't think it extends to Pattaya! Lots of action, lots of fun.
Every time I come to Thailand I learn something new. It's really a bonus to stay in a different section so you see something new and exciting.
Today I finally went to the beach. Pattaya, instead of Jomtiem like the last couple of times. I walked towards Mike Shopping Mall from Soi 8. Found some strong looking seats and nice looking ladies tending a few rows.
I get a nice cold coconut and start to relax and watch all the parasailers. It seems a massage/manicure lady works there, and she starts trying to get some money out of me. Another thirtyish lady comes and starts massaging my neck.
I'm not one to turn down a free massage, so I was having fun. I end up paying 200 baht for an supposed hour (40 min) massage, along with a pedicure and manicure.
In this time, the other lady had morphed into my girlfriend. She had jumped in my lap and was rubbing against my crotch quicker that I could have imagined. By the time the food massage was done, she had rubbed my dick enough to make the genie come out. Almost. :)
I realized that this was not part of the 20 baht chair rental, and that I was going to pay a bit if I wanted to play any more. It turns out Fon was a 32 year old beer bar girl who was hanging out at her friends beach concession. While both the oldest and least good looking girl I've been with on this trip, she did have a nice attitude. At least we waited until the kids cleaning the beach for the Kings birthday passed to get into public displays.
As a beer bar girl, she wanted 500 baht. I explained to her though, that since we were at the beach, that beach pricing prevailed. After a weakhearted attempt at 400, she smiled and said 300 was fine.
Off we went to the hotel, and had a really nice, non rushed time. My first nooner. I'm leaving in the morning, so needed to get some stuff at Tops supermaket, so I walked her to her beer bar near Tops.
I've got to leave at 3am to make it to the airport (I think!), Flipper Lodge was decent, but their wiring scares me. No outlets near the bed (Just wires running out of the wall.). The beds are very firm, but work well for me. Nice hot water all the time, and the security guard calls up before the girl leaves to make sure all is okay.
Hey Guys,
This is my first report. I have lurked here for some time and enjoyed most of the posts here. I live in Pattaya for seven to eight months a year. I know quite a bit about Pattaya and speak decent Thai. For the most part, I love it here. The Thai people are great and it's kind of like anyplace else. You get what you give. I have had many women here and what most say is correct. Thai women are the best. One of favorite spots here is Electric Blue on walking street. The place is class for a go go bar. It has two levels for great viewing. They have shows nightly and a clean short time room upstairs, somewhat of a novelty in walking street bars. Andy, the owner, said you can take your pick of the girls and go upstairs for 1,600 baht. Some of the most beautiful girls here. If you don't like to pay bar fines you can go to the Marine disco on walking street (after midnight), Tony's on walking street (somewhat of a tourist trap but hundreds of women), several "dance spots" like the Bamboo club just off walking street on beach road, or the beach road it's self anytime. The girls will go to your room for about 4 to 5 hundred baht for s/t. The baht is now about 40 to 1 dollar. A new place on soi 6 called the China club is clean and some fine young hides. Soi 6 is a short time street with virtually hundreds of women right out on the street so you can take your pick. Standard fees are 2 to 3 hundred bar fine/room fee and 4 to 5 hundred for the girl. There are several out of the way places also here with maybe a thousand to fifteen hundred bars total here.
Anyway I will start posting here from time to time whenever I find a new gem here, either great bar or girl. I also wanted to say how much I have enjoyed and used the info in this forum.
Snooker:
That was a great first post! Lots of useful info in a short space.
Hey, I will be back in Pattaya in mid-January. Will you be there at that time? If so, maybe we can hook up for a drink and chat.
Raz
Jaimito,
You like duck? Go to" Leng Kee" restaurant on the south side of Pattaya central road. It's about 200 feet east of 2nd road and their duck is better and portion is larger than MK. For Dim sum, all you can eat at the Pattaya Centre hotel, beach road on weekends, or "AYCE" dim sum at the Ambassador hotel chinese restauraunt Bkk.
Bil - Thanks for the duck info. It's weird, I've had duck maybe 4 or 5 times in my life before I starting going to Thailand this year. Now I'll have it a few times a week.
Unfortunately I'm back in the USA now. Just finished the hellish last leg an hour ago. I'm so drained (From lack of sleep, plus, uh, you know what.) that I'm going to grab a bite and crash for 12 hours, hopefully.
Bil, Jaimito
Stay away from "Leng Kee". It's quite dirty. Bil, did you never look how they serve your rice with their thumb (dirty fingernails !) in it ? I used to eat there many years ago but stopped when putting their thumb into my rice got common practice rather than accidental. Also a friend of mine went sick once after he had food there.
A few comments before I jet off to Gatwick for a mileage run.
They talk about senior sexual drive not getting much attention. Well, when I'm 60 or 70, I won't have any problem getting all the attention I need in Pattaya. I saw lots of guys who could barely walk with a cute Thai on their arm.
The most interesting couple I saw was a 6' 8" guy with a 4' 10 Thai girl. She must have fun climbing that tree!
Soi 8 is nice, but you have to get creative going back to your room. If you chose Nong from Beatle bar, you may have to come in the the other way (Or through the Sweet Spot) to avoid the walk of shame.
I was a bit afraid that when the girls would pour out of the bars and "swarm" me I needed to be careful with my money. Pickpockets and so forth. Never a problem. I did cure a few of them who decided to just step out in front of me. :)
I only had two circumstances that I was short changed. Once with a convenience store clerk (probably an accident), and once with a street fruit vendor (not an accident).
I learned a new bar game (Hammer the nail), actually ate meat from a street vendor and lived to tell about it.
I had an interesting adventure on the way to the airport. I'll post on it when I load my pictures into my computer. I always get interesting ones!
Traveller - I've noticed some other habits of Thai servers that make me a bit wary as well. There doesn't seem to be a prohibition to nose picking while serving food. I've had this happen a few times, and it rather kills my appetite.
JC, Traveler,
I don't think its the perceived level of 'cleanliness' that determines if you get sick or not. Its whether the food has been thoroughly cooked, and how long ago it was cooked. I seriously doubt that someone's dirty fingernail or booger will make you sick. My rule of thumb is simple for eating in Thailand - eat where the Thais eat, and avoid the places where you only see Westerners eating. The one exception would be a Western oriented place that has a Western owner on premises. I've never gotten sick from street food in Thailand.
Since I'm in the Pattaya forum I might as well post a Pattaya anecdote. Its in the nature of a warning - I got a dose of the clap about a week ago from the beach girls. I'm pretty sure it was them because I hadn't done a bar-girl in ten days or so.
Jaimito
Saw that too. Disgusting.
A few years ago I ordered some food at a food stall between Soi Pattayaland 1 and 2 from an old woman. She prepared and served the dish, everything looked fine. But then she sat down on her chair, picked up the knife she used before to cut of some slices of meat and started to clean her fingernails with it.
I spew my first bite out and prepared to leave, without paying of course. When she asked me why I want to leave without paying, I only asked back what she just had done with the knife. No discussion.
But I still prefer food stalls over restaurants, because at food stalls you can watch them preparing your food and the cleaniness of the place. In a restaurant you will never know how clean the kitchen is, are there rats or if anyone might sneeze or spew on your food. BTW, food is usually cheaper there and tastes very good. I am addicted to thai food anyway.
Have fun
Well cleaninless is always a factor. I've done work in a lot of restaurants in the states, and often I'd not eat in a restaurant after I did work in them. In an Arby's there was a big roast beef just sitting out on the counter, not even covered. In Jack in the Box, McDonalds and Burger King I've all seen things that turned my stomach.
This is nothing in comparison to the roach I got served on top of my Taco Bell Nachos supreme. Like it was a garnish! And not a baby one, but as big as an olive.
You can never really know where all the food has been. I use my common sense, and if it looks clean, smells okay, then I'll give it a shot.
JC,
You wrote: "They talk about senior sexual drive not getting much attention. Well, when I'm 60 or 70, I won't have any problem getting all the attention I need in Pattaya. I saw lots of guys who could barely walk with a cute Thai on their arm."
Good to know. I turn 60 in January and am gifting myself with 2 1/2 weeks in BKK and Pattaya. I'm in great shape and still good for two or three pops a day if I space them out. I'll be in the air winging toward LOS on my birthday. I'll post some reports and pix so you younger mongers will know what you have to look forward to if you live long enough.
This will be my second trip to LOS. My first was a 10-day tour four years ago. We hit BKK, Pattaya and Phuket. Best vacation of my life. Hope to repeat it. I recommend a tour as a great intro for newbies. But once you know the ropes, you can stay twice as long for half the money if you do it yourself.
I love this board and all the fine, useful, up-to-date info it puts at all our fingertips.
Carabu
as usual, i seem to attract interesting situations.
since i had to be at the airport by 4:30am or so, i had to take a taxi from pattaya by 2:30am or so. the flipper lodge wanted 1300 for their driver, so i just made a booking through the little stands that are everywhere.
800 baht, plus tolls.
i crashed at 9pm and got 4 hours of sleep before i got my wake up call. the taxi driver showed up fairly close to the right time (2:40), and i quickly checked out and was on my way.
the first thing i noticed was the singha beer that the driver was sipping on. he said he had delivered a fare to pattaya at 6pm and had been tempted to stay until 2:30am for the 500 baht he would make. the beer helps him stay awake, he said. this was only his second one, supposedly. what a way to start the day.
now i always try to put a little bit of wiggle room into my plans, so if we get a ticket, or need gas or such i won't miss my plane.
now the driver (neung luk, if i recall right) didn't seem like he had done the trip too often. he was going 20 kph below the speed limit, but given the beer intake, i wasn't going to mention it. he drives past the entrace to the expressway, and then goes into reverse to back up. luckily, light traffic, and we're (hopefully) on the right way again.
other annoyances - he decides we don't need to go on the toll road all the way. i'm pretty easy going, and as long as we get there in time, i'm fine.
one kind of annoying thing - everytime we'd go over an overpass, he'd slow down way too much. i don't think we ever hit the speed limit more than once, but he's slowing down to 40 or 50 kph every single time. and the roads were fine. shrug.
here comes the first bathroom break. no problem, quick in and out. [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] puddled on the floor, but hey, nothing too bad. after he takes a smoke break we get back on the road.
now he decides that he does want to go back on the toll road. go through some little town, and finally make it back on.
he only manages 90-100 kph in a 120 zone, and he flashes his lights and honks at every slightly slower car than him, even though they're way out of the way in the left lane. we're finally getting close to bangkok, but it's already been 2 hours since we left.
i start seeing airport signs, and he again has to stop for a bathroom break. since my plane leaves in 70 minutes, i'm not too keen on the idea. he says, "one minute, okay. so solly". he then goes into the womens restroom, and comes out in a couple of minutes.
we make it to the airport 53 minutes before my plane leaves. now in most places this would get you shut out of the plane. luckily thailand is a little more relaxed. after paying him the balance (500 baht), he asks for a tip. i smile, and politely decline.
just another adventure in the los.
Opebo, Traveler, Jaimito
Best not to think about what goes on in the kitchen even in the states. I too have eaten at the roach coach sidewalk venders countless times and never got sick. I usually look for a vender that has a stir fry wok and order that way reasoning that cooking in hot oil would kill most anything. Maybe I'm wrong I don't know, but I have never been sick. What I did get though was some of the finest Thai food that can be had. I also like to be able to "point" at the stuff I want in my meal. I'm not real big on that god awful green leafy stuff that seems to make it into every Thai dish. Jaimito, it's so funny you should mention booger picking. I had grown acustom to it and had forgotten. I actually took a day walking the streets with my zoom lens catching booger pickers for prosterity. It's like their National pastime or sport or something akin to that. And to our western eyes the most striking thing is that they are'nt shy about it in the least. What are ya gonna do when that winch is on top riding the bronk and pulls out a big green one??
Traveler,
So you and your friend had a bad experience at "Leng Kee" I have never. If I saw a dirty waiter stick his nasties in my food I would send it back. When you eat street food, do you take a microscope and count bacteria on the dishes and utensils? You will be surprised. There are NO antiseptic restaurants in Thailand or anywhere else in the world. At least the place is off the street and better than most places with the large portions. I see lots of cops and their superiors there dining. The spring rolls made with crab are terrific. Let me ask you this, did you use a condom when you kissed your last thai girl? She may not have used listerine after I gave her mouthful of tadpoles.
Bil
Don't get me wrong. I know that no place in thailand is antiseptic except the surgery rooms in a hospital (I hope). I am not as picky as it might have sounded. I have eaten almost everywhere, probably at places where you wouldn't even consider to eat and I am well aware of the situation. Anyway, after 20yrs in thailand my immune system is already used to most bacterias and therefore they shouldn't harm me anymore.
I used to eat at Leng Kee for several years at a constant basis. Liked their food, reasonable priced, but after a few years they changed and got worse. If it would have happened only once or twice I wouldn't mind, but if you observe it constantly you would probably change your mind too. And do you really believe that the food you send back will not be served again ? You might get it back again, telling you it's a new one. And if they are pissed about you they might even put some nasty things in it, you would never know. This happens everywhere and was often caught on surveillance cameras around the world.
At least, I described my observations, expressed my opinion and gave advice. You don't have to follow it. So slow down, no need to be sarcastic.
BTW, didn't anybody tell you how to use a condom ? You don't have to put it over your tongue. There is a small description in every package, read it :-)
Furthermore I doubt that we picked the same girl, since I am much choosier with picking my girls than my food.
Have fun
Hey Guys,
To comment on the food in Pattaya. I found this out in the open retaurant on the street where the beach road begins one block away from the ocean. They had the best Pad thai I ever ate in my life. When I left to pay the bill I gave them a bill and waited for my change. The lady I handed it to nicely layed my money in the salad bowel on top of the food and acted like it was no big deal. I dought they would rewash that food that touched the money. I was very dissappointed in the handling of food there. I don't even want to think about what happens to the food I do not see they feed us. If your ever anger the chef or complain I would recommend not eatting there again.
ChiMan II
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If your ever anger the chef or complain I would recommend not eatting there again
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Yep, you would probably get nice non ordered additions to your food, like anywhere else in the world :-)
Anyway, thai food is still top notch. Enjoy it.
HI all,
I am going to Pattaya next week and I would like to know how is the action there (many tourists, prices, Tony entertainment, new bar at six 6 or..)
Thanks in advance
Sting
Hi all,
I am looking for a girl her name is DOM or Tom. She is between 22 -24 years old and had a tatoo on her right shoulder. (Her name) Most time she stays at Tony or soi 8. I know is is very difficult. Particulary, I would say she has black hair :-).. but maybe someone has interesting news..
TX
Sting
How can anyone be sure!
There's no possible way anyone can be sure their not going to get sick from the food they eat! Even resturants like MK, Japanese restuarants next door buy much of their food from local markets, I have seen buyer from these resturants buying food
at local markets and bring them back. Sit outside Big C, complex and you will see small local pickup trucks pull up and drop off food with their employees of these resturants.
Do you real think these places go the extra mile to wash things twice or more. Ever see how stalls wash their dishes, can't tell the difference between the soapie dish water and the rinse water.
One can only go by word of mouth, recommendations, and good instincts,etc.etc. I have been buying and eating food from local stall markets outside of Pattaya and have never been sick, but got sick once from MK, just from having a glass of ice water, got sick at Buds Ice Cream from just having a Ice cold glass of Coke, both at the Big C.
So personally, after years of prison food, I just take the good and little of the bad, as long as I don't get sick and just enjoy! Being able to choose your own food and eat when you want now that's
freedom.
In regards to nose picking, it is laughable, I think it the culture.
Recently, I was in my room, no A/C, just fans, laying around watching T.V. I had this one small fly that kept flying in my face and then right into my nostril, this happened several times and I just started to laugh at myself because it made me wonder if that's the reason why locals pick their nose!
Just my two cents,
LBM
Hi all,
Last month I stayed at Pattaya for 1 night only. Walking down the beach on night after 11pm there were many girls than anything where else. I picked a young cutie for a ST. She said she was 18 but I don't know she looks much younger than that. The clerk at my hotel asked her ID and I was released when seeing she just turned 18 a month ago.
This babe is unbelievable. She got a hot tight pussy and I ate it for 15 minutes, made her come multiple times and she didn't push my head away like others . I turned her over for a doggie style and fucked her gentley for 10 minutes . She was squirming all over and her juice flowing like river :) I even sticked a finger in her little asshole and she let me do that! I switched to commissionary and slided my cock back and forth over her clit. She clenched her teech and screamed again. God! I just placed the head of my cock right at the entrance and pushed it home . That did it! She gave out a loud cry and held me tightly against her nubile body, rolling her eyes back. Man my back was sore with her finger nails.
I gave her $20 for it even we agreed on 500 Baht. I felt so good and when I came back to the states I still miss her a lot now .
Beach Road is a great place to pick up girls and should be checked out at least once per night. If you are looking for really fresh girls you can find them along the beach. Granted, many older ones that I would have no interest in but just walk pass them. I'll picked up some hot feature dancers from the top clubs walking along the beach after work and many girls who have just come to Pattaya that day.
It can never hurt to take a look lots of gems like the one I had last night. Small 40 kilo, prefect tight little body and wanting to do nothing but please. Also very happy with 500 baht and never said no to anything I wanted.
The bar fine alone in many Go Go is 600 baht and the service level can be poor. I don't mind paying but overpaying for poor service is not on the menu.
Sexreview
Khun,
It took me almost an hour to find the girl I like. Actually I was looking for 2 girls who gave me big smiles when I was walikng with my friends back to the hotel. When I came dowm to look for them they were long gone. So I waked down the beach back and forth (in front of a McDonald) multiple times and I spotted a group of 4 girls sitting on a rock bench. I just introduced myself and picked the girl I wanted. She did not speak any English but fortunately there was an interpreter next to her so we agreed on price before we got back to my hotel.
Sexreview,
Yeah I know what you mean , this girl weights probably like you said, around 40 kg not like my wife who weighs 55. So I was handling rather easily and she LOVES fucking !!!
It sucks when you are not in Pattaya!
The worst thing about going to Pattaya, or Thailand in general, is it is unbearable been back in shit hole America, knowing paradise is only a 14 hour plane ride away.
If any one out there is thinking of getting married and having kids, go to Thailand first and then decide.
There's a pic of my girlfriend from my last trip attached. God I miss her!