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Guys,
Several of you have been PMing me asking for Jimena's contact information. I would not have a problem in giving it away, but I sincerely consider it is Toby Gru who must decide who to give it to, since he is Jimena's friend and he was kind enough to introduce her to me.
On other notes, I visited Bogotá again last week, and had two different experiences to share:
First I went to the area of Cl. 86, where Casanova and other clubs are located. IMHO, Casanova has always been the best of them, so I chose it.
I met a girl (of course) there, which made me spend a nice time; we spent a couple of non rushed hours talking and having fun; it is my experience that if a girl is asking you what are you going to do after only 5 minutes of conversation, she will probably be a rushed experience. Also, my personal method of deciding who to go with is to let them come to me, since if I have to call a girl, she probably will not be interested in me at all, only the rushed money.
For all of you who are asking yourselves the girl's name, to be honest I don't remember; we went upstairs and the total cost of the night was Col$80.000 for drinks (4 beers), Col$100.000 for the room and Col$200.000 for the girl.
That for those of you who don't know the numbers, that's Col$380.000, which equals about US$140. I probably should have called Jimena, but you all know that we are suckers for variety.
Also, following recommendations of previous posters, I called Chuscas.com the next day, and was told there was a new girl, for which no pictures were available just yet; her name is Alexandra, so I got her for $160.000 for 90 minutes.
Alexandra showed at the agreed place with some delay, she is a nice girl, who also happens to work at Lido (an old favorite site of mine since 12 years ago); she was featured on one of HBO OLE's documentaries about sex in Latin America. Her performance was not up to par, though.
So, there you have it, guys, this hobby remains hit and miss even if you know the territory well.
Keep posting!
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#1226: Agree with most your points but you are paying WAY too much at Casanova's man. ST should be no more than 100K +room. Seeing as you have been going for 12 years, I asume your Soanish is good so no reason to pay gringo price. Try Whiskeria La 49 sometime instead of the ZonaNorte clip joints.
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#1226, WTF? You'll probably admitted, but you're paying way too much.
All the places in the northern part of the city i.e. Casanovas, Casablanca, Zhivagos cater to the "gringo" crowd. Veteran (not in age) girls with attitude and many foreign boyfriends. Not GFE type establishments unless your willing to drop a lot of $$$$.
I always balk at paying $20,000 for a beer, most places will make a second offer but still, it's crazy how much they gouge customers for.
Girls generally don't get a cut (ficha) of any of the drinks even $300k plus Buchanans, so obvioulsy, for the girls is not in their advantage to get get hammered, if anything they laugh at the fools spending so much money.
mamey
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Ok,
I posted on the general board earlier about finding place in Colombia for some crazy mongering, like four guys and five chicks, for a week in the sun. Lezbo action, swing and swap, the works! The idea was originally my friend's, but it sounded so fun I got on the bandwagon too.
One guy suggested Brazil. Well, I did find a place in Colombia, in a resort town right outside of Bogota. And cheap. With a pool and privacy.
So solved that problem. Now I need the girls! And suggestions on how to best do this? We want to offer them a weekly rate. Thought about just finding them in the clubs. Don't really want to deal with an escort agency. I have no experience with SW.
Any ideas or other suggestions? Let's just say, I'll have a great trip report to show you guys later!
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Mamey, disagree a bit with you. I talked with my friend from Zhivagos. She says the girls get a 2,000 peso commission from the drinks they pump. Not the bottles, but the regular drinks. They may consider we're chumps for buyin' drinks, but they do seem to make money from it. I fight this B.S. by making sure I sit at the bar and not at the chairs away from the bar. I buy a beer and sip on it...slowly. And if someone hits me up for a drink, which they don't do at the bar that much, I say NO.
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Bill12: finding a PLACE is easy, but finding 5 good looking chicas who are up for festinha like party is going to prove to be a MAJOR challenge IMHO. I wish you good luck because I think you'll need it. Not impossible, of course, but MUCH more difficult in Colombia than Brasil as most chicas (even putas) are NOT that open like the Brasileras.
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guys,
i see some of you are disappointed at me for paying too much; i admit you are probably right, i should have asked in advance for the price; maybe i am getting rusty from not being on the hobby very often now.
on the other hand, i tend to disagree with the proposition that negociating too much with the girl is a good idea. i do prefer on a one week trip to have two good quality experiences (which most of the time i have) instead of three or four mechanical performances; there comes a point where you can guarantee you are going to get just that is you show you are a cheap guy. i am not saying that i don't get a fair price; just that there's a balance.
also, i tend to go to the places that cater to the "gringo" crowd, as you say, mamey, simply because that is where the best girls go! see, being colombian by birth, you can not amuse me just by having a round beautiful ass; i take that as a given. to have an elegant face and more important, more than 5 minutes of speech, is important to me.
off course, this time i was not lucky, but most other times i have been; that is the risk of the hobby.
regarding the 5-some proposed adventure, well, probably it is not going to be easy, but it does not mean it can't be done; yet, i would advice finding the girls in cali and flying them, since caleñas tend to be a lot more open to the idea. alternatively, to get to know them on clubs independently of each other might be a good idea too.
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Thanks. Good responses on my five way party idea. I think, after hearing all your responses, both on and off the board, that we will tone it down a bit and have some regular fun, or semi-regular!
Bill
(If anyone is interested, I have a ton of frequent flyer miles leftover from my business flying. It takes 35,000 miles for a round trip flight to Colombia. I can offer them to you cheaper than you can get a regular ticket, PLUS they are good for a FULL year and any changes are FREE. If you have flexibility in booking, feel free to "private message" me for details. They are especially valuable for those who live in the north or who want to be able to change their flying dates)
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Hey guys,
I am bill12 friend with this crazy idea. I agree with you that it is the best idea. What if the girls called someonne in Bogota toattack / rob us in our vacation home? Do you think it is dangerous, and I have traveld thru 1/2 of Colombia with bus. What do you think?
KWkids
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Member 1226 said:
<<To have an elegant face and more important>>
In case this matters. I do believe you are Colombian from your word choices. That gets you points on my book, whether it matters to anyone else or not.
In case I missed it. What are the places that you prefer for a good time?
Thank you for your contributions,
Ferolga
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Hi,
In Bogota I like Unicentro for non-pros, Charlets in Zona Rosa for semi-s and pros. I usualy stay at Charlies and do all my shopping at Pomona, but I am also looking for better ideas.
KW Kids
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Went to Charlotes on Saturday at 22:00, but could not see ANY "semi pros" or "pros", many regular Colombians thought, from young to old age. Waitresses are beatiful, bud do they semi-pro?
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I lived in Bogota from 1997-2000 and returned last year August again to teach again. I usually hit Piscina maybe once a month, prices are resonable, but some of the girls work at other clubs two blocks away for almost half the price and then they go to piscina after 6pm to earn more money.
Charlottes is good for semi-pros and regular(but gringo-hunting girls), I've picked up a lot of girls there. I usually hang out in Zona Rosa , for regular girls but living here I have the time to invest .
I'm a member of ******* and act as the informal Bogota liason for that site since I live here.
Anybody heading down let me know , we'll tear the place up!
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I have to agree with Nick. They were everywhere when I was there at Charlotte's. And no, I don't think the waitresses are pros at all.
Have to disagree with Nick a bit though, a bit. Most I met in there were more than semi-pros. In fact, one worked at the the "finer establishment" I go to!! She was just slummin' that nite!! Probably trollin' for higher paying dudes in there.
But he is right as to the fact there are a lot of gringo-hunting girls there. I met one, but she had a kid, and was kind of strange. For all I know, she probably wanted a "tip" !
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Bill is right that there are some pro's who go there to try and pick up clients.I'd say about 3o% on a Friday or Saturday. I've had a few situations when the girl said she was a pro, usually I blow them off. If I want pro , i'll head to a club or casa.
There are usually enough gringo-hunters who you can take home who are interested in dinner and snagging a gringo husband. I live here so some of those girls are interested in trying to get a "real" boyfriend who'll take them out of Bogota when their time is up. (yeah right, but it does happen) Many of them are secretaries , or bank tellers etc.
A lot if the foreign guys who hang out there happen to be working in Bogota with a multi-national company and some time with an Embassy(watch out for the French Embassy guys , those bastards will hit on your girl the minute you head to the bathroom ha ha !)