Thanks for your very interesting views on the different pitfalls and what to look for.
GF
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Thanks for your very interesting views on the different pitfalls and what to look for.
GF
My girlfriend is a member of Iglesia Ni Cristo. The parents and her would love the vows to be exchanged in the church. I'm not a religious person at all. I've been reading up on their beliefs and ways and to tell you the truth, I'm not to fond of converting. I know it don't make sense, but I was thinking of becoming a member just so she can have a nice wedding with all her friends and relatives in attendance.
The worst thing I noticed about this religion is that you cannot marry someone of a different faith, if you do you are never allowed back in the church again. What a crock!! They really love her money when she attends, but once married to a non Cristo, she's out. That's the thanks you get?? Not much of a choice either, unless the significant other you meet will become the same denomination. Cristo really seems like they run the show too much. Persuading you who to vote for and you cannot be a member of a labor union. I know a co-worker here, he actually gives them 10% of his salary per month. Gee, my lord never asks for money. Isn't a few coins after the service good enough?? I can imagine the cars and houses these people that run the church drive around in.
A civil wedding looks the best for us. I don't want to go to no bible study for 25 days, then being baptized at my age. I just want to be who I am. I know the family will agree to a civil wedding, it's just it really has to be a secret. No friends, no relatives. The church finds out she's married, she can never go back. Not much of a wedding if you ask me. Why does religion have to so strict when all we want is to be happy. P.s. yes I know it's mainly a Phil religion.
[QUOTE=Tungsten Chef]I can imagine the cars and houses these people that run the church drive around in.[/QUOTE]Hehe....is that what everybody try to achieve in all kinds of work...
But back to topic, I guess they are "forced" to stay into their religion. I also once tried to discuss this with my girl but she wouldn't understand. Belief is really what keeps them up there and gives them a hope, I think. Pls tell what you decide - and good luck,
GF
[QUOTE=Spam Hog]#2 in Soju's post is something ALL OF US NEED TO READ AND RE-READ!
I have found this thinking to be quite prevelant here. Many YOUNG filipina. Read those under 25 (say) REALLY WANT A MUCH OLDER FOREIGNER
To MARRY, preferable a guy in his fifties or even sixiteis, the reason is that they got maybe ten years (like an indentured servitude) with Pops until he croaks and leaves them the money/assets in a foreign land (USA? ), then they are young enough to go find another guy their age or return to their Filipino paramour and live well.
As I write this I am preparing to leave Moalboal, I plan a trip report this week, but I ran across one little place that was built by a Foreigner 12 years ago, guy died a few years back, (heart attack) the widow married a younger Filipino .
Be careful of this in Thailand, sometimes they kill you (drug overdose).
Spamhog[/QUOTE]Sign a prenup and don't worry about the rest. Yes it is IRONCLAD and where is the gal gonna get the money to fight the family while the case is in probate? You guys kill me, it takes money to fight to get money, and if you are happy to give the cash to the little gal, set up a trust. She gets only so much per month and she can not go through the cash in one stroke. If the details are set up right in another country you have nothing to worry about. As for all the. 10 cent millionares out there, I am sure she will not be a big drain on the estate.
B. B.
[QUOTE=Tungsten Chef]I can imagine the cars and houses these people that run the church drive around in.[/QUOTE]
Oh yes! INC (love the acronym) is a very good business. Praise the lord ;)
[QUOTE=Sagramore]I would like to unabashedly confess my stupidity for the sake of discussion and perhaps a lesson or two to be learned.
Like so many others here that admit it or not, I have on occasion barebacked a bar girl. I am not here to justify or condemn this practice, my story is to simply state the possible consequences of such actions.
This story begins with a bar girl named Veronica who I met at Nero’s Forum and had spent three consecutive days with. I reported briefly on this girl earlier in the Angeles section. Although she was fun and I genuinely enjoyed her company, she was getting too attached too quickly so I stopped seeing her.
Fast forward three and a half weeks later.
I went to Nero’s one night and there she is, she looks great, is no longer pouting and is actually a lot of fun so I barfine her. We got a bite to eat at Kokomo’s and we were both having a great time, that is, until she rather nonchalantly tells me she is pregnant and I am (of course) the father! To say that this put a damper on the evening would be a complete understatement!
She tells me that she took a pregnancy test a few days earlier with the help of her housekeeper, (why a housekeeper’s advice is trusted and revered is beyond me). Now, keep in mind that even on my short trip I had seen so many single mothers in Angeles City with no support from the fathers, either foreign or Filipino. Although to be fair, it may be possible under these situations that a foreigner father doesn’t even know he has sired a child. However, the end result is still the same, a single mother that is dirt poor raising a child in an overpopulated third world country. I always said to myself that I would never be one of those guys that consciously abandoned a child or a pregnant mother; I had the simple desire to do the right thing, whatever that might be.
As my head was still spinning with all of these revelations, she then informs me that she took a drug called Cytotec the day before, which from what I understand, is a medication for stomach ulcers that has a certain nasty side effect that will make a pregnant woman have a spontaneous miscarriage. I believe this drug is commonly used by bar girls as an abortion pill.
I came up with a plan, the next morning we would find a doctor; get a real informed opinion on her alleged pregnancy and her medical condition if she really did take some kind of abortion pill. I wanted to be able to make decisions based on facts and not just the word and speculation of a bar girl and her housekeeper. For my part, I would of course pay for any medical bills regardless of the outcome or the diagnosis and I reassured her that I would be there with her from beginning to end. I thought this was a great plan, that is, until she flatly refused to go!
She gave some story about she was afraid of doctors and blah, blah, blah. So here I was faced with this situation where I was determined to do the right thing but was at the total mercy of this girl. Thus began one of the worst days of my life with me trying to reason with a young girl with the mentality of an immature five year old. I tried to reason with her, tried to be the good guy, tried to be the bad guy but she just wouldn’t budge. Finally after about 10 hours of this nonsense she said she wanted to go see her mother in Manila where she promised she would see a doctor. At this point, this idea seemed the best way for me to simply wash my hands of this situation; let her mother deal with this. So I gave her 7,000 pesos to go home and get the help she needed. I of course realize that this whole story could have been a fabrication from the start, but for me the 7,000 pesos eased my conscience to some degree for the slim possibility that she could have been telling the truth.
She did return a few days later with a story of going to the doctor who gave the diagnosis that she was no longer pregnant and there were no ill effects of her taking this Cytotic. The doctor prescribed some medication and said she would be fine, the doctor and pharmacy bills conveniently cost the amount of what I gave her. I did not want to have anything to do with her so I kept her at a distance the rest of my time in Angeles despite her numerous calls and text messages.
In looking back at this I can say that I handled this situation rather poorly, clearly there would be a lot of things I would do differently if I could. Upon reflection, I don’t think she was ever pregnant, I believe she made up this story for one or more of the following reasons:
1. She wanted a foreigner boyfriend and this was some psychotic way to trap one.
2. She wanted attention. She was queen for a day when she found a sucker like me!
3. She wanted a moneyko. That is, this was all a ruse to get some money out of some poor sap who didn’t know any better. In my case, it worked.
4. She was bored and I made for some good entertainment, plus she had a great story to tell all of her girlfriends back at the bar.
If only I had worn that condom.[/QUOTE]Sagramore, I like to read some of your reports even I'm not very good to speak in english at least I understand some of the story! Thats true. Many single mothers there in ac but most of theor Filipino bf only. They always think that story to get more extra money. Actually I won't beleive any of bar girls about that. Except, shes a normal girls. I mean she gave you the first time (virgin). Anyway thanks for your report.
Guys,
I need some advice.
My biggest problem is:
How can I date a girl, and tell her I just want one thing, and then meet another girl the next day?
What if the girl see's me with another girl?
What is the best way to let a girl know right away what the score is?
[QUOTE=Asheron]Guys,
I need some advice.
My biggest problem is:
How can I date a girl, and tell her I just want one thing, and then meet another girl the next day?
What if the girl see's me with another girl?
What is the best way to let a girl know right away what the score is?[/QUOTE]Let her know straight up whats up and could be she will try harder to make you happy. Please don't think the little princess has no idea you might do that already. I would worry about how many she has in line and protect yourself. Could be she will break your heart before you ever get close to hers.
B.B.
[QUOTE=Asheron]Guys,
I need some advice.
My biggest problem is:
How can I date a girl, and tell her I just want one thing, and then meet another girl the next day?
What if the girl see's me with another girl?
What is the best way to let a girl know right away what the score is?[/QUOTE]
Just introduce yourself as "Mr. Butterfly". Even my regular girl calls me that lovingly.
[QUOTE=Pute Nut]Oh yes! INC (love the acronym) is a very good business. Praise the lord ;)[/QUOTE]
INC is not an acronym, but yes the church is a great business to start. I think it is one that could be successful in PI.
[QUOTE=Bill Buxton]Sign a prenup and don't worry about the rest. Yes it is IRONCLAD and where is the gal gonna get the money to fight the family while the case is in probate? You guys kill me, it takes money to fight to get money, and if you are happy to give the cash to the little gal, set up a trust. She gets only so much per month and she can not go through the cash in one stroke. If the details are set up right in another country you have nothing to worry about. As for all the. 10 cent millionares out there, I am sure she will not be a big drain on the estate.
B. B.[/QUOTE]
Not sure of other countries, but this is true for the USA.
All you need is reasonable reason to sue and a lawyers belief or actual knowledge of enough money for it to be worth their time.
There are thousands of ambulance chasers out there that know it will be settled long before it goes to court and will be willing to take the case based on the chance of winning or really settling out of court.
No offense to any lawyers out there, but the goal is not to go to court for both lawyers. They get paid for doing less than half the case load most of the time. Plus, it is true that the preparation for trial and the actual trial portion is and will be the most expensive part. Other family members could easily see all that wealth coming their way reduced to very little trying to keep all or most of the money. Remember in the the USA you can sue a Ham Sandwich if you desire.
I have been on the receiving side of some ridiculous law suits that I had to settle to keep from going to court where it would have cost double the settlement.
FF
I have seen a number of reports about girls claiming to mongers that they are pregnant from them and that she is 'afraid of doctors' - first sign of a scam to avoid going to a doctor with you and being revealed as a scammer. Solution is simple, buy a pregnancy test kit from a drugstore (very cheap and readily available in most drugstores). Just get the woman to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] on the card and see the result for yourself. If she is pregnant, just be aware that most AC girls have Filipino boyfriends, living off their earnings (foodchain).
[QUOTE=Fastpiston]I have seen a number of reports about girls claiming to mongers that they are pregnant from them and that she is 'afraid of doctors' - first sign of a scam to avoid going to a doctor with you and being revealed as a scammer. Solution is simple, buy a pregnancy test kit from a drugstore (very cheap and readily available in most drugstores). Just get the woman to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] on the card and see the result for yourself. If she is pregnant, just be aware that most AC girls have Filipino boyfriends, living off their earnings (foodchain).[/QUOTE]This is not just a problem with the most have bf's in ac it's allover. They all if they like you or think they can get pere from you try the guess what card. Pregnancy is a well overused scamm that gals use here, and all over the globe. Remember the quick drug store test sa stated above, could set the record straight fast. They all try "by hook or by crook"they all need pera!
B. B.
I swiped this from "Dragonslayers" Forum:
"I took a bath and dressed after lalaine departed to await the call from her "fiance", . Cyber Mike. This guy has to be dumber than a fucking donkey. I did her three times and got a decent blowjob. He sends her $200-300/Mo and calls twice daily to be certain she has no one else (how do I place a huge laughing icon here? ). "
If a girl asks you for money, you are being played. Maybe there is an exception to this, but I would say the odds are overwhelmingly against you.
Don't be a schmuck!
[quote=teenieweenie]i swiped this from "dragonslayers" forum:
"i took a bath and dressed after lalaine departed to await the call from her "fiance", . cyber mike. this guy has to be dumber than a fucking donkey. i did her three times and got a decent blowjob. he sends her $200-300/mo and calls twice daily to be certain she has no one else (how do i place a huge laughing icon here? ). "
if a girl asks you for money, you are being played. maybe there is an exception to this, but i would say the odds are overwhelmingly against you.
don't be a schmuck![/quote]looking through this board sometimes, i wonder if some grown up guys are really 'babes in the wood'! a few simple hints, easily determined from looking at the archives on this board:
1) don't overpay and ruin the market for yourself and others. if you buy cars in different countries, they cost different according to the local market price. in the bars, the girls are selling a service - pay the local price. don't compare with us and other places, they are irrelevant as they are different markets.
2) if you must send money to girls, check out the girl first over several months before you do it. if she has jewellery, new cell phone etc. where did she really get the money from? talk to her friends / colleagues carefully, discretely, they may drop hints or make slips on what is going on.
3) if you hear that the buffalo, mother, sister is sick and she needs money urgently, watch out! if you meet the family and they look upon the visit as a way of getting a 'free meal' or ask for money - you will have trouble in the future, believe me.
4) if you must get deep with a girl, get her a phone landline - that way you know whether she is at home at night. call at random.
5) don't fall for the "i am having your baby" thing, especially if she says she is scared of seeing a doctor. get a preg test from most drugstores in phils, all she has to do is [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] on the marker stick. if positive insist absolutely on seeing the doctor to get your own estimate on when she was fucked. if you were not in town - you have an alibi. if she does conceive, check the dna of the baby against your own. any mismatch, you can walk away with a clear mind - it is someone else's.
6) try and get a girl from outside the bar scene - better hit rates for quality. there are fabulous girls about in phils. who really have fantastic characters: loving, honest, dedicated -if that is what you want. how do you get them - easy - put up the image of being a really good, religious, catholic boy, and talk to locals (who are not in bar scene) casually that you are looking for a serious girlfriend - tell them the kind of girl you are looking for and you will be overloaded with introductions. always say this is your first trip to the philippines and that you are on a business trip. filipinos always think that you already have a girl if it is your second trip. usually first meeting with such a girl is sex free. during that meeting be the good innocent boy on a business trip. she will go home and talk nonstop about how great you are to all her friends. on second meeting, say how lovely she is and how you love her and want so much to make love as that is the way to develop the relationship further. from that point i think you know what to do!