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Hey Farangsteve,
I have been reading about Africa because I want to travel there because I love black women. Your time there sounded great! I went to the website you advised & there are tons of girls there that want to meet & marry. Did you have to take them out & spend time with them once you met them after talking on the email? Or did they understand you would just take them to the bed to sample them? Did they want to stay around you all the trip? Is it safe for a white guy in Abidjan? Is it an English speaking city? Thanks for sharing & I love that story of how you got that taxi guy to bring you the rap video girl. Did she give BBBJ? Will the girls swallow too?
SMALLWORLD
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To farangsteve and others
I'm glad to hear Abidjan is back swinging again. I'm rather astonished to hear that "most girls were ready to have sex without protection". Before the civil war, Abidjan girls were condom fanatics, as African girls go. Maybe they are more desperate for customers now than before, and they will do anything to please.
Regarding hotels, Ibis Marcory is probably better for girls than Ibis Plateau. The area (Marcory/zone 4) also has much more in the way of action. Adjamé was a no-go areas before the civil war as well. Treichville less so: people used to go to typical African restaurants there during the day, and at night there was Cabane de Bambou and Moulin a Huile, two great hunting spots.
I wouldn't make too much out of the staff's angry looks. This is the African way. The angry looks are directed at the girls, not at the guest. It makes one feel uneasy, but I can't think of a single hotel in Abidjan where a white man would actually be prevented from having girls in his room. Doormen or reception employees will fish for a tip if the girl has no ID or if she is rather youngish, but a small tip will always get you through, within reason.
Let's keep each other posted about this great place and hope it recovers (but not too much, it should remain deterring enough, we don't want the crowds to spoil it for us, do we?).
xxl
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Hello everyone,
What is the best way to fly to Abidjan from West Coast (Washington State or Vancouver, BC)? What I could find so far is unbelievably expencive.
Thanks in advance.
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Dear Canuck2002:
Your best bet is to fly through Paris via Air France or Rome via Alitalia; also maybe Amsterdam via KLM. Ethiopian Airlines also flies to Abidjan but you may have to first fly to Ethiopia (not sure). Good luck and always use a condom when you are there (even if the girl insists that she is clean - don't believe her)!!
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Thanks Frank Africa!
I'll try to follow all of your suggestions.
Cheers,
Canuck
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Flights
Flights are bound to be expensive since there's little competition. I understand Brussels Airlines fly to Abidjan (from Brussels). They are the successor airline to the now defunct Sabena Belgian Airlines. They are more reliable than Air France or Alitalia, in my opinion.
xxl
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It is wellknown that most of African girls would kill for a chance to get married to a white guy from Europe or North America. You know I don't mean it literally but they are so eager to leave their poor realities. My question: if you find a gorgeous beauty there and you are getting crazy about her, what kind of a wife one might expect from an African girl? I understand that it is always a guess or a gamble but I think there should be some sort of a general idea about them. Are they fair and reliable in a marriage? Is it worth at all? I am asking about girls from Western Africa and especially from Ivory Coast. Please be reasonable and polite because I am considering this possibility seriously.
Thanks.
Canuck2002
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Dear Canuck2002:
Good question that's tough to answer. Some African girls would just want to use you to get a green card and then leave you, especially girls from Nigeria (don't trust anyone from there), while many others are believers in true love and would be loyal and faithful to you. One way to find out would be to get to know the girl's family and as much as possible about her.
Speaking of family, that is a major issue to think about if you are planning to marry a girl from anywhere in Africa (or any developing country), and I speak from experience. The culture in Africa and most developing countries (like the Philippines, for example) is very family-oriented, and their definition of "family" is much broader than in the U.S. or Canada.
If you married a girl from one of those countries, the family may have high expectations for you to pay for school fees, clothes, etc. for the girl's brothers, sisters, cousins, nieces, nephews, the whole extended family, as well as even sponsor for some relatives to move to the U.S.! Luckily the latter issue has died down a bit since 9/11 since it's so hard to get a visa now, but the pressure and expectations for you to send money back to the family is enormous.
Africans who have never left their country usually have an unrealistic view of the U.S. They think that everyone here is rich, and for someone who comes from a country like Cote d'Ivoire where the per capita income is only a few hundred dollars a year, hearing that you have a $50,000 annual salary sounds like a lot, and they don't take into account the much higher cost of living in North America. I know of several Africans who live in the U.S. who rarely if ever go back home because they can't afford the presents and cash handouts that they would be expected to have with them when they get off the plane.
Some of my African and Asian friends also complain that several of their relatives have gotten lazy and even quit their jobs, with the expectation that the US-based relative will send them money every month. Other relatives seem to be sick an awful lot with vague ailments that require cash to be sent so they can go to the doctor. One friend stopped this nonsense by offering to mail medicine instead of cash everytime someone claimed to be ill - the supposed illnesses dropped off almost immediately after that!
I know that the above sounds a little harsh, but it's true, and I speak from lots of experience. I'm not saying that it's not good to send some cash over to your wife-to-be's relatives, just that you need to be aware of this issue before you get married so you can plan ahead. Several friends of mine have solved the problem by setting up ground rules, such as: money only for close relatives (no 5th cousin in the home village nonsense) for school-related expenses, and if the grades aren't good, no more money. If the relative is male, able bodied, healthy, over 21 and not in school, nothing - go become a farmer or go get a job!
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Thanks Frank! Your thoughts are very close to my own. Anyway, there is no booletproof solution of my situation and I am going to be very cautious on my way to "heaven". As for Nigireans, I agree with 150%, I have some experience dealing with them. Fortunately, I was smart enough then.
And those flights to Ivory Coast are so expensive!!! :-(((
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To Canuck2002
Speaking from "real" experience (one marriage to a Senegalese girl, one, still on-going, to an Ivorycoast girl), there is nothing very, very different from marriage with a French, or a European woman.
Small differences abound though:
1. "Muslim" girls, in my own and personal opinion, and excuse me for saying it a little too bluntly, don't hesitate to lie. Big lies, small lies, call it what you want.
2. Attitude to money is distinctly different between someone educated in Europe or in Africa. Someone raised in Africa will buy what, to him/her, looks "necessary", even though the total monthly expenditures are much higher than his/her income. In spite of numerous "talks" on the subject, it seems that nothing will ever change this kind of attitude. To this very big problem, I have of course found a very easy solution: everyone has his/her own bank account. After all, bank managers can also bring pressure to bear.
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Unbelievable!
The long post by Photo Time just below this message is a 100% copy of a post by Beavis (a senior member of WSG with over 220 posts) made here in October 2002.
I also noticed that Photo Time is trying to become a senior member based on his reports here and elsewhere. Too bad that he feels that he has to resort to outright theft!
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I've seen this report before as well. I just figured it was the same guy posting it all over the place. Stealing it from somebody else would not be too cool.
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Yes indeed Frank that was mine. What a bunghole!!!
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Just discovered in the Brazil section of WSG that someone else has also accused Photo Time of stealing. I'm glad to see that Jackson is on top of this situation and has already deleted the post that Photo Time stole from Beavis.
Very strange - why can't Photo Time just put in some time as a regular member like everyone else, instead of stealing just so he can be upgraded to senior status more quickly?