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I like this new board, so far. (I've been lurking on the old Rio board for a while.) Quick quote question - is there a way to customize the format of the quotation embedded in the reply? I apologize in advance if it's obvious or in an FAQ, but I couldn't find it in my quick look at the User's Guide.
To answer the last poster:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by sabio
[i]Welcome to the new forum. I am a frequent visitor to Rio, and I have a question about how easy it is for the girls there to get a visa to visit the US. Anyone who invited a carioca girl to the US can shed some light on this? Thanks. [/i][/QUOTE]
Four years ago, I met a girl (not programa!) in São Paulo, and I invited her to visit me in the US. She was only going to stay 10 days, but it turned into a 6-month visit. But that's another story...
Anyway, before she left, Rosana was very anxious about her ability to get a visa for the US. She got it just fine, but she had a small dress shop, and she lived with her parents - Rosana believed it was because she could prove she was likely to return to Brazil that the visa was issued.
Keep in mind this was a hearsay account - I was back in the US when she applied for her visa, and I have no idea if conditions have changed for Brazilian citizens.
Hi Sabio
Let me try to answer your question. It is not that hard to get a visa if you do it the right way. One of my girl friends recently visited me from Brasil. Of course, if you are very serious and wanting to get married, then the "fiance visa" would be the easiest way, otherwise consider a tourist visa or a student visa.
The most important factor that will determine whether she will be granted the visa is if the American consulate feels that she has a strong enough tie to Brasil that will motivate her to one day return to brasil. For some one who has never travelled outside the country, consider a student visa. There are many English schools in U.S. and they can grant her an acceptance(you usually have to pay something between 50 to 100$ "application fee" to the school). She also needs some type of document showing that she has the financial resources to support herself. Here, it would be very helpful if you were to write a letter(has to be backed up by a brief statement from your bank)stating that you would support her should she have any financial needs while visiting here. Then, she will need to send the school acceptance letter, her passport, and the financial document letter to the embassy, and in probably 4 to 8 weeks, she'll get her student visa. Of course once she gets here, she is gonna need to actually enroll in that school and go to classes. I have done this before myself and I believe it is the easiest and surest way to get some one here to visit you. This kind of visa typically can be extended for at least one year. Alternatively, you can apply for a tourist visa, but that is easier to get if your friend already has a record of travel outside her country.
Of course, with the terrorist attacks, some of these immigration rules may change in the future.
Good luck. I hope this has been of some help. J.G.
Good report Sabio. Look forward to future installments.
Hey hobbiests! I know that this is not the correct forum, but......
I'm desparate. I'm travelling to Belo Horizonte for a 2 week stay fairly soon and need info on the local scene.
Anyone out there with info/tips?
suprgeek
Hey guys, can one of you clue me in on how to stay in Brasil (legally) as a foreign-national for stays of two years+? Especially helpful would be the non-business methods for extended stay. Thanks alot in advance.
JWadd
[I'm desparate. I'm travelling to Belo Horizonte for a 2 week stay fairly soon and need info on the local scene.
Anyone out there with info/tips?
suprgeek [/i][/QUOTE]
Suprgeek, I sent your request to a friend of mine in Belo Horizonte. Here is his reply:
Pros: Savassi (maybe Ave Christobal Columbo), Pedro Segundo btwn Espinsoa and Catalan (Pres Carlos Lutz)next to Banco Brasil.
Non: Any store saleswoman/girl, Savassi again.
Enjoy,
DC
HAVE ANYONE OF YOU HAVE ANY INPUT ON MAKING YOUR OWN RESERVATIONS FOR AIRLINE TICKS, AND HOTELS IN BRAZIL INSTEAD OF GOING THROUGHT A TRAVEL AGENT? ITS SEEMS TO BE CHEAPER NOW-A-DAYS TO DO IT MYSELF....... IVE FOUND THAT THE NUMBERS THAT IM QUOTED FROM A TRAVEL AGENT ARE NOT ANYWHERE CLOSE TO THE NUMBERS IM FINDING ON LINE OR BY CALLING THE AIRLINES MYSELF....... ANY INFO WOULD BE HELPFUL..... THANKS
[blue]Hi,
Welcome to the forum. I would sincerely appreciate if you would not type in ALL CAPS, which is the internet equavalent of SHOUTING.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
I'd like to make a brief comment about Brasil which is not so much about sex, but I believe would be helpful to anyone planning to visit, especially for the first time.
Let me start my comments by saying that about 2 weeks ago, we were in a restaurant when about 10 men came in and robbed every one at gun point. No one got hurt thankfully, except for the owner who was hit in the face by one of the punks. Let me just say that this is not at all a rare event in Rio.
I still like Brasil a lot, and I enjoy the brasileiras(brasilian girls) a lot, but I just want to say that Brasil, and in particular, Sao Paulo, Rio and Salvador can be quite dangerous. Now, I know some one is gonna say that they are not any more dangerous than any big city in U.S. Sorry, but I don't agree with that. In Sao Paulo, or in Rio, you have dangerous areas, and then you have more dangerous areas. There are few places where you could be completely safe. In fact there have been times where the police force in the entire cities (such as Salvador last year) has gone on strike, and then the whole city has become wide open to looting and the population is at the mercy of the thugs.
This is my experience based on what I have seen personally. It is not gonna stop me from visiting Brasil, but then I am a bit of a risk taker. For those of you who are not, Rio is certainly not the city to visit.
My tips for visiting are to
1) hide your wallet in a pocket/bag on the inner aspect of your pants. keep a dumby wallet or a few dollars/reals in your regular pants pocket
2)do not wear any watches, jewelery, etc at all, unless you enjoy being robbed
3)if you ever rent an apartment in rio, sao paulo, or salvador, make sure you rent one with 24 hour security guard, and closed circuit TV watching the perimeter of the building
Have a safe visit. J.G.
Travelinp... make all your plans yourself searchandfly .com travelocity priceline are all safe to book on some of these sites even have specials for hotel check before hand if they are guest friendly before booking. For apartments check the arcives. several numbers there.
J.G. what is the restaurant and where is it located? this is useful information for everyone here so that we can avoid that area. thanks.
To: Sabio
What a great posting - insightful and informative!
I've been in Brazil for business several times but limited to S.P. area. I'm visiting S.P. and Rio for first time for a mini vacation along with a couple of buddies.
The Help club has been heavily commented in this posting but I have not seen any other equitable clubs in Rio being commented. Would you know or recommend any other clubs that have its own class and selections in perferrably Copa beach area?
To: off2golf
Hey dude,
when you get to rio or even before, drop me a line if I can be of service with airport pickup, transportation, lodging, travel tips and planing, dining and tips on getting around rio in a safe way.
check out my site:
www.rioturist.com
011-55-21-9317-5567
take care
jose
(this is a report i wrote about a month ago in the archives section. its content may seem a little out-of-context here, but i think it's important to talk about these things and try to get as much of an unified front up as we can.)
tricks and common sense at "help disco" and beyond:
behind the complaints regrading the rio sex scene (if one checks) is (to me) a whole string of misdirection regarding help, babarella's and the rio sws. i'd like to post and clarify things, imho.
above all else, when one is talking to a girl, one has to able to negotiate, convince, bargain, beguile, etc -- in a charming, or at least pleasant, way. never lose site that your time with this girl can be optimized if you pay attention to the courting process. don't be left paying too much for a chubby girl w/ no class or hygiene -- just like your worst paid-sex nightmare in the states.
for instance: the cliqued-up chicks at help (the ones in groups) are usually the ones that are sitting on those pearl-colored couches right by the entry steps. there're the ones with the initial-quote price of 300+.
ever notice that they're frequently in a group of women w/ no men? there're also the ones with the expensive clothes and fake-ish tans. this is also where most of the plastic surgery recipients sit. shit ya there're gonna rake you for every real they can snatch!
buuut, my friends, even those girls can be yours for 100-200 reals if you wait and talk to them when they're away from their group and the hour is past 2-ish a.m..
also, the younger they are (over 18, please) the cheaper they'll be. and -- and this is most important -- talk to them and gauge how long they've been in rio. if they are new to the scene, radically drop your initial quote.
i zapped about 20 girls out of there, all from 7-9.5, and got everything i like for never more than 200 reals at the most. i even got on 8 w/ huge natural firm tits w/ almost no body fat (i have pictures which i'll post) for 70 reals -- cause i waited and talker to her alone. i also complimented her first.
the only time someone tried to mug me during my 2 months there was in recife. i was stupid (and then lulled into a false sense of security) and walked along the beach at night.
so: i think the best policy for talking to the girls is to treat it like a date (all the compliments and smiles) w/ a negotiating price (all the focus and direction). get her away from peer pressure prices, smooth her up, then launch into the specifics.
this routine also works well with the sws. compliment them first. be willing to walk away and go sit close by if you want to shave some reals off a high initial quote. i bet when you go up to her a second time -- still pleasantly -- and offer her one price-step lower, she'll accept.
we've got to rally to avoid this current price inflation that's going on across the major clubs in brasil.
happy hunting,
jwadd
DCRAIN
Thanks for the info. It will at least get me a starting point. I've never been to Brazil, and I'm looking forward to everything that the Brazillian women have to offer! Anyone with other insight into the Belo Horizonte scene please advise!
Thx!