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[QUOTE=Pessimist;2449682] (BFsie already said however that Polyamorist actually is a resident of DE, whether he is a citizen or not), [/QUOTE]Just to be clear, he used to live in Germany and I think he still lived here at the time I mentioned about his residence. I don't know where he lives now and when he left Germany if he doesn't live here anymore.
Just reading the news of frustration and protest at the speed of which Germany loosens the lockdown controls. Seems that the people want more freedoms and are willing to break havoc in their cities and risk long term detention to express their discontent with the current situation.
At the same time, the Robert Koch Institute has reported an uptick in COVID-19 cases since the lockdown restrictions began to loosen up and or since people began ignoring them.
Now in the US we are seeing a new crisis. It seems toilet paper is again available in stores and stores are now posting they will not accept returns of personal stockpiles of toilet paper. The new crisis is a meat shortage. Suddenly there is not enough refrigeration capacity to safely store the meat being processed. Farmers are having to slaughter and dispose of animals. I guess they expire on the hoof if not butchered by a certain age. In the village where I live, which has at least one bovine per human, the beef shortage has caused the price of beef hash to increase by nearly 100%, there was recently no pork, price of chicken is up 30%, eggs recently went from $4 per dozen to over $9 per dozen. Fortunately I can buy fuel for $1.74 per American gallon so I can drive to the mountains to go fishing, as long as there are no more than 3 people in a 15 ft boat and no more than 10 boats on the lake.
[QUOTE=Akibono;2449950]No. You can test hours earlier and those who do not pass do not get to board. You could probably test a day earlier if you accept some risk. Plus, safer on plane if everyone is virus free.[/QUOTE]Test a day earlier and person has whole day to be infected after being tested before flight. The choice is delay at airport before flight or delay at airport after flight. I prefer the latter.
[QUOTE=Polyamorist;2450018]Salaam Pistons and may your herd of goats never stray from the road to Mecca. I think you discovered much of the above from the speculative text [I]Hyperion[/I] by Dan Simmons. If not, give it a read![/QUOTE]Just too many youtube videos on technology and philosophy. From seminars and documentaries, to the average joes slapped together own ideas. And a few theories and links myself too. But I'll check out that book.
[QUOTE=Bfsie;2450113]Just to be clear, he used to live in Germany and I think he still lived here at the time I mentioned about his residence. I don't know where he lives now and when he left Germany if he doesn't live here anymore.[/QUOTE]Thank you Bfsie. Sorry, I did and't mean to drag you into this squabble, my apologies to you. I really have no interest to know who lives where and why -- I am not disclosing my city and state either, although my country of residence has been obvious. My only point is that when someone intentionally camouflages their residence and origin using obviously fake expressions as a ruse, they should not be posting continual derogatory comments on other countries in a forum dedicated to international sex mongers. Let us respect all nations and nationalities and let us not throw stones at each other. Thank you.
We are all aware of the risks we take by visiting brothels and engaging escorts. Many of us also take a lot of precautions. I have never ever not used a cover. Plus the demand for a thorough cleaning before and after.
But even then it's a risky business precisely because not everyone adheres to these standards. So, the regular check ups for HIV & STD. Would we take similar risks vis-a-vis corona going forward? I have no doubt that we will.
[QUOTE=Tedesco;2450089]It was, it is and it will be unnecessary to discuss any kind of features which male guests expect or are suprised to get in touch with when being in a club. Why? Nobody got a look beyond the closed door but assumptions and rumours make the round what happens and the conditions for realisation. Meanwhile it's ridiculous that traditional STD and HIV aren't anymore in the focus of board members (maybe most of the guys always have a broad-spectrum antibiotic in their pockets or stories about welllknown clubs are only fairy tales) but castles' building in the air thinking that there is a vaccine close to approval by FDA is the key for unlimited pleasure in the future??[/QUOTE]
Russia's national death toll from coronavirus could be 70 per cent higher than the government's official data show, as the Kremlin struggles to curb the spread of Covid-19 despite a seven-week long lockdown.
The Financial Times' analysis of all-cause mortality data in Moscow, the capital, and St Petersburg, Russia's second-largest city, found 2,073 more deaths in April*relative to the historical average of the previous five years.
Official Covid deaths in the two cities came to just 629 for the same period, leaving 1,444 deaths in excess of normal mortality levels unaccounted for. If added to the reported national figure of 2,009 Covid deaths as of Monday morning, this would mean a 72 per cent increase in Russia's national death*toll.
Russia has made it illegal to publish or discuss "fake news" about the pandemic in the country, a decision that critics say could be used to muzzle independent media reports that contradict the government's official statements.
President Vladimir Putin has repeatedly told citizens that the pandemic is "under control",*despite claims from a doctors' association linked to opposition activists that the government has covered up the scale of the medical crisis.
Read more in the article below.
FT, WSJ, and other media have had such articles about country after country. This pattern - - - that death toll in March and April, is significantly higher than the average of prior 3 or 5 years - - - is happening in so many countries.
[URL]https://www.ft.com/content/77cd2cba-b0e2-4022-a265-e0a9a7930bda[/URL]
Even you will use 1000 I am afraid it will not be enough, how will you avoid some virus that are in her hair to enter your body through your eyes? For me visiting prostitutes in the coming months will be at high risk, but each of us can decide about his own life, for sure the girls will return to P6 as soon as possible but we mongers have the choice, my choice is not before the situation is safe.
It is not just Russia either.
Here is an article about US:
[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/11/cdc-finds-additional-5000-nyc-deaths-possibly-linked-to-coronavirus.html[/URL]
[URL]https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/official-u-s-coronavirus-death-toll-may-be-missing-many-n1201441[/URL]
"USA Health officials have identified 5,000 fatalities in New York City between March and early May that may have been caused by Covid-19 but weren't counted as part of the official coronavirus death toll, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Monday.
New York City health officials reported 18,879 total Covid-19 deaths between March 11 and May 2, — 13,831 of which were confirmed by a lab and 5,048 of which were categorized as probable cases based on the patients' symptoms and other factors, according to a new CDC report.
There were an additional 5,293 deaths that weren't previously identified as confirmed or probable coronavirus cases that "might have been directly or indirectly attributable to the pandemic," the CDC said.
The number of confirmed or probable Covid-19 deaths might not include deaths among people with the virus "who did not access diagnostic testing, tested falsely negative, or became infected after testing negative, died outside of a health care setting, or for whom Covid-19 was not suspected by a health care provider as a cause of death," the CDC wrote."
The above was in NY state alone.
[URL]https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/07/uk/coronavirus-uk-deaths-intl-gbr/index.html[/URL]
[URL]https://www.wired.co.uk/article/coronavirus-uk-death-toll-numbers[/URL]
This Wired articlee said UK death toll is significantly understated.
"The UK's daily death toll updates for Covid-19 could be underreporting the true number by a significant margin, according to government numbers published Tuesday.
In its daily tally of deaths, UK government counts only people who tested positive and then died of the virus in hospital. But that doesn't match the number of UK death certificates that list COVID-19 as a factor.
On Tuesday, figures released by the UK's Office of National Statistics (ONS), showed that the 1,568 people had Covid-19 listed on their death certificates between March 5, when the first death was reported, and March 27.
In contrast, death tolls released by Public Health England over the same period show only 926 confirmed deaths due to the virus in England."
[URL]https://www.wsj.com/articles/italys-coronavirus-death-toll-is-far-higher-than-reported-11585767179[/URL]
This WSJ article said Italy death toll was much higher than official count. Here is a snippet:
"In and around those two towns, the real number of deaths is probably at least double the official count of 2,060 in March for Bergamo and 1,278 for Brescia since the outbreak began in late February, according to interviews with local officials, doctors and funeral-service providers and comparisons with the numbers of deaths from past years.
People are also dying of other ailments because hospitals are too overloaded with coronavirus cases to give them the treatment they need, doctors and local officials say.
Some 85 people died in the whole of last year in Coccaglio, a town near Brescia of 8,700 residents. In March of this year alone, the town's main church bell has sounded the death knell 56 times. Only 12 of the deaths were officially attributed to the coronavirus."
We can do this country after country.
So what is? Over reported or under reported? Many are dying. Maybe you don't know any of them, or anybody who knows any of them. Many are dying of Covid19. The entire world is reporting. What we do know is that after the incubation time in places opening despite the infection and death rate increasing the shit could hit the fan or as The Stable Genius predicts " it will go away even without a vaccine" Today is day three after opening in the great state of Texas. You don't see Pence with the "15 day" postcard anymore. He's in quarantine. Robert F. Kennedy wrote the forward to a book by a debunked anti-vaccination PhD. Her video is on a site featuring Proud Boys and Alex Jones.
[QUOTE=TeaInTheSun;2450061]With Obama this crisis would not have been a disaster in US. Biden is not the best and I am worried about how weak can be him in facing with Republicans. Trump could win if he announces the vaccine before November.[/QUOTE]USA should always be run by Republicans for stability of the world.
Obama looked good and great speech reading ability, but that's surface, he was worst president of all.
As for Trump, who like how he talk or his behavior or phenomenon he spread, it is not nice thing to hear, but he is one of the greatest president in American history and world, he changed things much more than Obama, some for worst, some for good, but moving forward is important and Trump is poison to kill poison. He has his own agenda, but poison like him is required once in awhile to change things in politic.
However, Trump is acting really bad sadly for Corona virus pandemic. He is old guy in his 70's, so it would be wise if he takes some precaution because if he get infected, imagine the damage it cause to economy and other areas.
Also Mike pence. Mike Pence is one of the politician who was behind bringing Toyota and Honda to USA, specifically to Indiana state creating millions of jobs and billion of US dollars to state, but with corona, I don't know why he was acting the way like he was acting like with mask, he kept on working taking measures, visiting place and now he is in place of possible infection and many others in White House. He is smart guy, but when it comes to corona, he begin to talk about religion as he supposed to be very religious guy.
All in all, USA is doing not that bad. USA is big nation, what is important is not death rate itself, but death per population and USA is doing better than Europe. It is France, Italy and Spain that is worrisome. France has Corona already in December and there are even some report since October and they did not even realize it. It is always their arrogance who fire back at them, they still live in glory of 19th century and only Germany is strong enough nation to stand alone in EU, but Germany takes full advantage of their strength and control EU for their own benefit, that actually is against ideology of EU.
Well, summer is best time in FKK, but this year, I have to skip for my own sake even if it reopen, I am glad I went to FKK in end of Jan. And early Feb., so I did it already this year, but question is should I use escort here if I find stunner Eurasian here. The risk is much less than FKK, but it is there, though risks are always there for all. I must think about this. Maybe in summer when virus may become less strong to contract. To be or not to be, that is the question even for monger LOL!
[QUOTE=Beijing4987;2450233]So what is? Over reported or under reported? Many are dying. Maybe you don't know any of them, or anybody who knows any of them. Many are dying of Covid19. The entire world is reporting. What we do know is that after the incubation time in places opening despite the infection and death rate increasing the shit could hit the fan or as The Stable Genius predicts " it will go away even without a vaccine" Today is day three after opening in the great state of Texas. You don't see Pence with the "15 day" postcard anymore. He's in quarantine. Robert F. Kennedy wrote the forward to a book by a debunked anti-vaccination PhD. Her video is on a site featuring Proud Boys and Alex Jones.[/QUOTE]Not especially many under 50 are dying. This is just a early end for the old (that would die soon anyways) and weak. I continue my life almost as normal.
[QUOTE=Beijing4987;2450233]So what is? Over reported or under reported? Many are dying. Maybe you don't know any of them, or anybody who knows any of them. Many are dying of Covid19. The entire world is reporting. What we do know is that after the incubation time in places opening despite the infection and death rate increasing the shit could hit the fan or as The Stable Genius predicts " it will go away even without a vaccine" Today is day three after opening in the great state of Texas. You don't see Pence with the "15 day" postcard anymore. He's in quarantine. Robert F. Kennedy wrote the forward to a book by a debunked anti-vaccination PhD. Her video is on a site featuring Proud Boys and Alex Jones.[/QUOTE]Don't worry, it is all OK, China will buy whole Europe for bottom price like China is buying up rock bottom priced Brent oil, China will FKK prostitute whole Europe LOL!
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2450194]Even you will use 1000 I am afraid it will not be enough, how will you avoid some virus that are in her hair to enter your body through your eyes? For me visiting prostitutes in the coming months will be at high risk, but each of us can decide about his own life, for sure the girls will return to P6 as soon as possible but we mongers have the choice, my choice is not before the situation is safe.[/QUOTE]Well with your theory we cannot even go to super market then.
If you want to take precaution, don't monger for awhile till this corona virus thing is over or vaccines are invented.
[QUOTE=Pessimist;2450148] Sorry, I did and't mean to drag you into this squabble, my apologies to you. [/QUOTE]No problem.