Thread Starter.
Printable View
Thread Starter.
Gentlemen,
My recent trip to Pattaya, Thailand left me with empty nuts, a big smile on my face, and enough left over cash for another fun trip in April. While I loved Pattaya, I've been also taking a look at Angeles City, PI. Anyone care to offer a comparison between these two hot spots? Please PM me or just post here. By the way, thanks for all of the posts on Angels City, they have been very helpful.
Nefarious. I guess Im not the only one trying to compare both these "hot spots" and there will problably never be an answer for which one of these two places taking the first price.
For me I prefer Angeles City. For instant the music it better inside the bars, its somehow cleaner, the girls speaks perfectly english and they dont run away when you bying a ladydrink, the alcohol is cheaper and the barfine is more or less the same at any bar(between 1000-1200peso). Also, I dont have to wait until 8 or 9pm to have action started.
There is some backdraws and these are that mostly of the girls are quiet conservative comparing to Thai-girls and you have to beg for your blowjob more or less. That would never happening in Pattaya.
One other thing is that many of the girls have boyfriends waiting them after work which means that some just leaving you in the middle of the night.
Make sure about you blowjob and tell Mama San about what time you want your girl to leave next day.
I'm no "cheap charlie" but since Im travelling 5-6months every year Angeles is a better value money-wise. Sure the standards of the hotel-rooms and the food are much better and as well cheaper in Pattaya.
For me "Roadhouse" is a good start. 2local drinks for 70peso(50bath),snacks and good music. They open 6pm. If you want action before there are some bars open daytime from 12noon and just before I left 10days ago there was a new bar "the dollhouse" just open 24hours a day!
There is soo many bars and we all have different taste so I cant tell you where to go...just go inside any and look for your own taste.
Guys, sorry if Im a bit confused, but I've been getting reports that a barfine is about 1,000 peso ($20 USD), so are you saying that you don't have to give the girl anything extra other than a modest TIP? If so, that is a bit different than I am used to in Thailand. In LOS, the barfine is about 300 baht ($8) and LT is 1,000 baht ($26) or $34 total before tip. Am I understanding this correctly? I've read the forum, but I seem see some conflicting reports and I also continue to have connection problems.
I heading to PI in April, so I thought I'd just check to be sure I've got things straight.
For me, I prefer Angeles City over Pattaya. IMHO, the girls in the Philippines are sweeter and more passionate. The girls in Pattaya are more professional (on average). There are outliers though.
Thailand has more volume and the PI has more quality. Again this is my own opinion.
Overall the prices are about the same, when averaged with hotel, bf, food, travel, etc...
What you are bringing up here is, as I understand it, how things are handled in Angeles. The BF I understand, has increased to PhP1200 now (all inclusive), but with an expected tip on top.
In Manila it is PhP3000 BF in the Burgos Street-clubs, with additional PhP1500-2500 to the girl.
In both the EDSA Entertainment Complex and the new Entertainment Center the BF is PhP1000 with additional PhP1500-2500 for the lady (negotiable).
[QUOTE=Nefarious]Guys, sorry if Im a bit confused, but I've been getting reports that a barfine is about 1,000 peso ($20 USD), so are you saying that you don't have to give the girl anything extra other than a modest TIP? If so, that is a bit different than I am used to in Thailand. In LOS, the barfine is about 300 baht ($8) and LT is 1,000 baht ($26) or $34 total before tip. Am I understanding this correctly? I've read the forum, but I seem see some conflicting reports and I also continue to have connection problems.
I heading to PI in April, so I thought I'd just check to be sure I've got things straight.[/QUOTE]
I came up here for a little unfinished business in the sense that I have got to know many people up here and again keep regularly in touch with them. It's scary because everywhere I go people remember me. I have said this before Angeles City is one of these places that you either love or hate. On the negative side it’s a bit rough in places some of the road wouldn’t qualify as a road in other places. I saw a question asking what you can do up here, well the answer is: [i]drink, drink, drink, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, drink, drink, drink fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck fuck.[/i] The best thing about Angeles City is that it is cheap very cheap everything possible here (within reason).
There is not a great deal to do in the days so fortunately I am able to post and I am watching a lot of day time television and one of my favourite shows is Wowowee which comes on at 1pm on GMA, I like the dancing girls who are basically cheerleaders.
If you watch some TV here you will discover that to be a successful woman you need to have fair or whitish skin, black silky hair and beautiful white teeth, if you have that then you can also have two perfect kids and then you can make sure your husband’s shirts comes out of the wash perfectly white.
This is not the place to start looking for wife material, don’t get me wrong it is possible but it is much harder work here. If you are seeking a wife I would suggest first going go other cities. However, on the positive side its easy to find yourself a regular girlfriend up here all you have to do is treat them right.
Angeles City is being improved, the roads are being fixed up and some of the establishments are making more of an effort to become much more business like or professional. Normally, I stay at the Orchid Inn, [url]www.orchid-inn.com[/url] but when I called, [i]shock and horror,[/i] they told me they were fully booked up – what’s going on here - this is the third hotel that has been full? So I then decided to try the newest hotel in Angeles “The Hotel Royal Amsterdam- in fact with the Orchid Inn being full they did me a favour because I would have not got to have known the Royal Amsterdam [url]www.hotelroyalamsterdam.com[/url] It’s a great hotel and price are on par with the Orchid, although I would say that in some parts its actually cheaper for a much nicer hotel. They are currently finishing off phase two of the hotel that should be opened in April offering some long stay apartments, just opposite, from the main building.
Both hotels offer internet access but whilst there are some local chat sites that you are unable to get through to from Orchid Inn I was able to access them from The Hotel Royal Amsterdam. My only couple of gripes about the hotel are that I am not keen on the in-room safe, not one of the most user friendly types you can find and second there are not enough rooms for this place.
[b]Day 6 ..Continued[/b]
On my way up here from Makati I decided to take a car after I negotiated a reasonable price, one girl I have been corresponding with for a long while I had arranged to meet me for dinner, in fact on the way up she said she could meet me anytime I got here. I decided that as I wanted to eat in the Thai place Krung Thai on Fields Ave that I would meet at 6.30pm, this girl I will call her May as she is a regular girl and not a bar girl was on time five minutes early which is unusual for girls here.
We went for a meal and whilst I was eating my food this girl played around with hers, it turned out when I later asked why she wasn’t so hungry that she had eaten at 4pm. Following that we had a brief walk around the block then over to Kokomos for a quick drink in the upstairs bar. Then I asked May at 8pm what she wanted to do next, expecting to hear that she wanted to go bar hopping or something, but the response I get is: “Up to you?” (being a male in Angeles City there is only one thing on my mind) When she finds out that I have a computer in my room she asks to come and see it.
Once in my room and after checking a couple of web sites we get down to business, and it was only 9pm by now but this girl was already getting[i] low down and dirty[/i], remember this is not a bar girl here she runs a small business and has two other girls working for her and also attends college part time, a couple of days a week. She told me she borrowed 45,000 Pesos to start her business and her mother said she can do anything she wants as long as she is not a bar girl. But this girl was a freak in bed she is only 24, but she wanted everything I could throw at her [i]literally[/i]. Bbbj, cowgirl, doggy style, etc. I put on a condom the first time but she kept say its OK no problem, well it was a problem for me because I was trying to work out how much it would be costing me in maintenance, if I got her pregnant.
Throughout the night May kept getting telephone calls and texts messages concerning her work, there was a problem there or something, but following this she would be off again wanting more dick and would just sit on top of me and put my dick inside saying its OK no problem, usually I am the one that should be saying that. Fortunately, I was still tired ([i]shagged out[/i]) from my time in Manila so I was able to exert some self control on the situation. When I was talking to May later asking about what would happen if she got pregnant her response was rather blasé:, “Its no problem, I am 24.” Anyway the following morning after her telephone went off again, initiating another session telling me, she likes no loves sex, well I had already worked that one out. May said it was because I smelt nice so guys please take my advice – shower and wash your clothes regularly women like guys that take care of themselves. I was coming down in the lift one day in the City Garden and this chap came into the lift and it was like – pheeeew! Let’s just hope he found some girls that had lost their sense of smell.
May only left at 11.20am because she had to get to college at midday, but this was more a GFE than bar girl experience. It would seem that this girl was either a nymphomaniac or had not had sex in a very long time because she was wearing me out.
All in all its was a good night, costing me no more than 700 Pesos (U$13/£7/€10) for the meal at Krung Thai and a couple of drink at Kokomos; and great sex through the night, priceless! This girl May has text me a couple of times asking to meet up again, her text message read - "!I needsome hot dick" but this is Angeles City too many women not enough time.
[color=blue]Juniour[/color]
Day 7
I am trying to utilize my time as best as possible and whilst also keeping up or catching up with my posting. The weather is beautiful and so are the women I am also trying to get around a bit more. I have been looking around at the various bars and finding my feet so to speak, I am very impressed with the newest club in town [b]Dollhouse,[/b] it’s a professional run establishment that was being built last time I was here. I went in for a couple of drink and not only are the girls pretty but its also open 24 hours – yes, it never closes. However, I did pop in there at 8am one morning and had some breakfast orange juice when I was up to see what the place was like in the morning, but there were only two customers, one of them fast asleep. I am not sure how long a club can remain open for three customers with around 20 staff and beer costing 70 Pesos, but just enjoy it while its lasts. Like some of the other places in town [b]Blue Nile[/b] and [b]Cambodia[/b] it also has an upstairs balcony. But I like it as it has set the standard for the others and raised the bar so to speak. The problem with many bars, for example Champagne Bar, is that is by the time you have six customers in there is no room for anyone else to relax apart from the uncomfortable bar stools.
I went into the [b]Cheaters Lounge[/b], which back in February was re-named the [b]Viper lounge[/b] to me this place has gone down, it just doesn’t have the same atmosphere or feel as the previous place, they used to have some nice girls in there and the music was better, but who knows what will happen in the future. I spot a couple of girls who used to work in there, now working in other clubs, good for them, I am noticing many signs outside of many clubs are recruiting a full complement of staff, from mamasans, beautiful GRO (Guest relations Officers) and attractive dancers with pleasant personalities.
Through the night I make my way back to my regular clubs and I am embarrassed that many girls remember my name but I am unable to recall theirs. After some catching up I get into the [b]Blue Nile Executive[/b] its still kicking and has many nice touches in there, one of my favourites is when the girls get up and dance on the table and the choreographed dance group that comes on every half hour, there is always someone who forgets part of the routine. OK, its marginally more expensive than other places, but on the whole you have to pay for quality. I am sitting down when I spot this girl who I recall from my last trip here, at that time she was bar fined by some other guy on my last night in town, fortunately I am here on my second night and I tell myself – I am going to have that girl (actually my words were - I am going to fuck that girl). Unfortunately, this girl doesn’t do herself any favours because she just doesn’t smile and has a face like a sour puss.
However, on this night I had a difficult choice to make – go after my fantasy woman or go back to Cambodia where I told this girl, who was all over me – “I’ll be back!” I thought I should stick with my sure thing and took back this girl from Cambodia Club to my hotel. The bar fine was 1200 Pesos (U$22/£11/€16)
Overall, it was so so sex did the typical things, blow jobs, cow girl, doggy style which was her favourite but she was a bit shy about the photos this being her first time to work in a bar, but she asked if I wanted her to stay I said no as I wanted to get a good night’s rest and get up early to write up some of my posts and then go for a walk.
Day 8
I have taken to walking around the area in mid-morning partly for exercise and second to get to know the place. I keep getting stopped by Tricycle drivers who come over and introduce themselves and claim to know me, as they are the driver from MY HOTEL, I always ask which hotel. One guy followed me for ages, 30 minutes, and kept asking to take me somewhere free- of – charge (he claimed) to show me something. I said I was busy with other things. Take my advice avoid these guys, nothing is free here.
My favourite girl is now back from her province, who works at the Black Pearl BJ Bar, the mamasan and a couple of the staff know me now and as this girl has just brought a new cell phone we swap numbers so I can text her when I need her to come over, only in AC. This girl does text me regular to ask to come over to my place or can I pass her a load on my cell phone which I do, but only 2 Pesos which I give when most girls ask me for a load – I love Smart. The price of a BBBJ is still the same at 500 Pesos, (U$9/£5/€7) and the transsexuals are still out in force. I also bump into a couple of staff at the Orchid-Inn who ask me why I am not staying there, I explained that it was full and they said I need to book early, but the Orchid will now be my second option to stay having tried the Hotel Royal Amsterdam.
I am receiving texts from these girls in Manila asking when I am coming back, but I am enjoying it up here because the pace of life is much slower and the choice of women is greater. I literally bump into a girl who I posted some of her photos with another girl last September and we get talking I ask if she is interested in another photo shoot with me, but stress I need two girls, she says her cousin has big boobs and wants to do it with her. I already have her cell number so we exchange text message to see when is a good time for me, because I have made plans to do things already, she wants to do it now and borrows 50 Pesos advance from me. I say later on in the week as I am in town for a while, but as luck would have it a guy two door’s away from me in the hotel bar fines her and another girls for a couple a days so I keep seeing her coming out of his room, but out of respect to her I pretend I don’t know her.
This night I had planned to get to know this girl I saw the night before at the Blue Nile Executive, so I arrive there early, it has just gone 9pm and fortunately, for me, she is working this night. Within ten minutes of arriving at the club I see her and call her over, her face still looks like a bitter trout’s. She comes over and I get talking to her personality is much nicer than I expected we begin to hit it off. After a couple of drinks l discuss the barfine at 1250 Pesos (U$23/£12/€17), but let’s call her Cheryl, but she tells me she is having her period. I still agree, because l wanted to get to know her better. It turns out that she has a cousin working there so l barfine her as well.
Back in my room we have three in the bed session and chatting, whilst Cheryl is still wearing her panties she was offering a BBBJ and then she suggested that her cousin can come on top of me cowgirl style. Her cousin at times was playing around with her cell phone so I had to tell her to turn off the phones as they are working now – this is business. We had a good evening and despite one of the rules I saw in the Hotel Royal Amsterdam that only one guest is allowed in rooms, however during my stay, I saw some guys with two, three and even one with four companions.
At the end of my sessions I exchanged cell numbers with Cheryl and agree to meet up and go down to Robinson’s mall the following day. She asks if I want her to stay but I say she can leave to go back with her cousin, she doesn’t ask for a tip but I give her a small box of chocolates that I carry around and give out as small presents and I agree to meet up the following day.
Hi Juniour,
Nice reporting.
I have read bad reviews on other boards for the Doll House.
All agree that it is a nice new interior, but the atmosphere with the girls and the prices are the problem. The girls are hardcore and only want you to buy them drinks, which they gulp down as fast as possible. Or, in some cases, are willing to go out with you for a bar hop, but no sex. Can't believe this, but more than one person has reported this.
They are also trying to charge 3000 peso bar fines as opposed to the 1000 to 1200 that the other establishments charge.
If this club Doll House is successful then you can rule out the old inexpensive Angeles City as the rest of the bars will raise their rates once they see that the customers are willing to pay these new much higher prices.
On other boards there are calls to avoid the place so as to assure it will fail with this new business model.
Many believe that it will fail because of all the items that have been reported as I stated above. So that more and more mongers know before they arrive what is going on here I am putting out the word here as well. I have not been to the Doll House, but have vowed not to even give it a look and see when I am there. I refuse to give this club any business at all. Not even the purchase of one beer for me and definitely not a lady's drink or bar fine.
FF
I was up early today and caught up on some of my postings I am also taking many photos and will be posting them later. I start receiving texts from the early morning; I am arranging to meet Cheryl to go watch a movie at Robinson’s malls, I walk down there to check what is on and what’s worth seeing. There are four screens at the mall showing two horror films, a tagalog movie and [b]Hitch[/b] so there was really no choice on what to watch here, Hitch, the romantic comedy won the day.
We arrange to meet at 15.30 but the movie does not start until 17.05 so we have plenty of time to talk. I arrive dead on 15.30 and Cheryl is already there waiting for me, I am impressed she’s early, a ticket costs only 85 Pesos and is free seating. We grab a bite to eat or rather I eat and she drinks an ice tea. There were no more than ten other people in there; it was a good choice of movie and Cheryl was very affectionate during the movie. The movie finishes at 7pm and we head back to Field Ave as Cheryl doesn’t begin work until 8pm. I discover that her sister also works in the Blue Nile Executive so I promise to go there in the evening to find out what she looks like.
I go around to a couple of the bars to get an idea of the prices, in one bar [b]Treasure Island[/b] I am having a quick drink when I notice this Japanese or Korean guy sitting watching the girls on the podium with this girl [i]wanking[/i] him off in the bar either that or she was busily wiping off the drink she must have spilt on his lap. Like I have said this before this is Angeles City and anything can happen here. I get around to a couple more bars before I head down to the Blue Nile Executive at 10pm. Its mid week the club is busy but not packed there and there are seats to relax on. I get talking to Cheryl and her sister who informs me that she’s a bit shy. Cheryl wants to meet up the following day so I say text me. The most popular record for all the girls I keep hearing is Usher’s & Alicia Key’s [b]“My Boo”[/b] the girls go wild when this is on and sing it constantly, so naturally, I score points back in my room when the girls discover I have it on my computer. When I was talking to the two sisters and they popped into the CR to do their ladies things, another girl who works in the Blue Nile Executive Kim, comes over and hand me a napkin and asks me to take it, on it she had written: “What is your name, please” she is tall for a pinay at 5’8” but obviously I was already with someone else so I wasn’t to interested and there is only so much [i]putang[/i] one man can handle in a day but I talk to her and grab her picture. She is the one that wears the cat women mask but she has no whip. (See Photo)
[b]Day 10[/b]
Staying at the Hotel Royal Amsterdam I usually go down for breakfast early, I always keep seeing this group of Japanese guys staying at the hotel. It is very interesting to see some of the women that guys are with because some of the older Europeans prefer the mature women, some are considerably on the rough side, whilst I see two Europeans with a couple of young looking bar girls. The Asian guys prefer the fair looking innocent girls, one or two of these girls could easily pass for their daughters. The youngest looking girl I saw in bars was in[b]The Wellcome Inn[/b] this girl looked aged about 14 and I asked if she had been to school today, but the mamasan assured me that she was 22 years old and had a licence to work. Apparently, to work in the bars the girls need to obtain licence and there is a fine for the bar owners if they are caught employing unlicensed girls. Talking to a girl I knew from last year, in Cambodia told me that over the last 12 month generally things have been very quiet and she had not been bar-fined and only earned money from drinks.
I meet up Cheryl in the early afternoon and she hang out in my room fortunately I have been able to post in the early mornings, I ask what she wants to do but she says nothing much and we just hang out in my room until she goes to work. Cheryl doesn’t even want to eat and just watches television and we get busy for a while but she is happy and so am I.
Later on I go out to eat and then did some more bar hopping, I am not planning to go down to The Blue Nile executive, tonight to have some space. A girl I have known since last year I always talk to her every day and she fills me in with what’s going on in the city. She moans to me she has no budget to watch a movie, after I tell her I watched Hitch, and I say we can go the following day, as it only costing me 85 Pesos, she could be useful in the future. That night I went to some more bars to the far end of Field Avenue, I get to the [b]Insomnia Bar[/b] where I was just checking the prices but as typical with AC I saw one girl in there that looked hot to me, if I can clarify I like my girls to actually look like women, with breast and an ass and this girl had them both. So I cannot see what the problem is, if the girl already has a baby. This girl Julie had a sexy booty, in the Insomnia they have a little booth so I go in there with her in order to get to know her better, but she keeps saying she wants to come to my hotel. I am debating whether I should be bar fining Julie and after 45 minutes I am persuaded.
I have to grab some photos of this girl’s sexy booty and she says that only black guys comment about her booty – I can certainly see why. This was another girl who was a bit of a freak in bed and she really enjoyed the anal probing when I was sticking a finger in her ass when I fucking her doggy style, she was really pushing back on it. She also gave a great bbbj, just second to one of the Blow row girls of Santos Street. I really enjoyed the sex with Julie because it wasn’t mechanical and she was really into it. Although, I did scold her for not being careful with condoms during the sex because again she didn’t ask and just went for it. But she said she had recently had a health check, but as she didn’t know me from Adam she should have been more cautious in protecting herself.(see photo)
[b]Frequent Flier[/b] I have not seen anything negative about the Dollhouse, maybe they, whoever “they” are, should share the information. But just to correct you on one point the bar fine in the Dollhouse is 1200 (U$22/£11/€16) Pesos the bar fine for the spotlight dancer is 3000 Pesos (U$55/£28/€41) I know because I checked out all the bars this week and will be posting the full post in a couple of days. There are six spot light dancers who come on every 30 minutes and do a sexy routine, but thanks anyway.
[color=blue]Juniour[/color]
Got back a week ago from a week (too short) in Angeles. I have been many times, but oddly enough I had only been to about half the bars, so this time I decided to hit as many bars as I could, averaging about 10 a night. So, here are the results of my First Annual Angeles Bar Survey (note that none of the bars in the categories are in any particular order):
Best overall
Brown Sugar (lively, comfortable couches, lots of women)
Blue Nile (always excellent, new and improved will two girls selling tequila and one girl selling blowjobs -- no, unfortunately only the alcoholic kind)
Champagne (too many girls to fit on one stage, bright and lively, great mamasan)
Pasha (okay, this one's here only because I went out with two great girls from here, both of whom are named Jocelyn)
Camelot (friendly waitresses, lively, big screen TV)
Best girls (of course, based on my tastes)
Blue Nile (they get a lot of tall, thin ones)
Champagne (as always)
Gecko's (the girls there are a wild bunch)
Best costumes
Bananitas (bikinis with criss-cross sides, very sexy)
Roadhouse (tiny school uniforms)
Strangely underpopulated by customers
Bananitas (the women are definitely worth it, but no one's ever there)
Agasya (huge, but only a few customers at a time)
Blueberry Hill (strange singing/dancing concept, lots of seats but few butts in them)
Odd places (for those who are looking for something other than just sex, sex, sex)
Black Jack (few girls, just a few solo dancers and karaoke)
Blueberry Hill (few girls, karaoke available)
DMZ (few girls, feels like old style army base juicy bar)
Odd designs (weirdly shaped or decorated bars)
DMZ (I swear, they haven't remodeled the place since the end of the Korean War)
Rhapsody (large area near the door where you can't see the women)
Lollipop/Blue Fox (I think these were the two bars that are eventually going to be combined, but in the meantime the center wall is an eyesore)
Doll House (freaky lifesize dolls and huge Duran Duran-type posters)
Winchester (you walk in, a dozen girls stare at you in the large reception area)
Entertaining atmosphere (lively women and music)
Gecko's (I was getting attacked by girls who were simulating blowjobs, one after the other)
La Bamba (fun girls, nice layout)
Roadhouse (girls are a fun bunch)
Places to go during the day
Doll House (although the pretty girls are only there at night)
Blue Parrot (down Santos Street, pool and hot short time women)
Disclosure: I missed Angels, Treasure Island, Viper Room, Cambodia, Nero's, Misty's, and Blue Nile Executive this time, among the more popular clubs. I'll hit them in June
Oh, and a note of warning: if you can't go back frequently like I can, don't go to too many bars, otherwise your heart will ache will all the gems you find
Hi Juniour,
I should clarify that they also reported that the bar fines had adjusted as you reported.
They did report that the show girls are really nothing special and that most of the show girls become regular girls, so all you have to do is wait and the price for the show girl becomes 1200 instead of the 3000 peso.
The big problem they spoke of was the refusal to go bar fine. The girls would openly discuss how they had been out previously, earlier in the week, for 3000 for only a bar hop for drinks and fun. That is all they are willing to do according to these reports. They would not do a bar fine at all and the problem these guys had with that is they were told this after 3 or 4 drinks lady drinks were purchased for the girl. A big waste of time according to the report.
This is from another board and these guys do not partake on this board. They are expats and know the scene very well.
Have fun and thanks for the reports.
FF
I may be going to AC in the middle or end of April and I want to meet up with some people from this forum. If you plan on going to AC next month, please send me a PM.
Thanks
[i]Please note this information is current for March 2005.[/i]
[u][b]Getting there:[/u] Manila – Angeles City[/b]
Arriving at NAIA and going up to Angeles City, which is around a two hours drive away north-west, there are a number of options open to you. There are no international flights direct to Clark, that I am currently aware of but a flight from Manila is offered several times a week by Seair [url]www.flyseair.com[/url]. Its not a frequent service so your next best bet would be going by bus or car. However, I don’t recommend travelling up at nights or after dark; the crime rate is slowly getting worse.
There are several bus options that travel regularly to Angeles but the most well known and fairly useful is: [url]www.swaggy.com/flythebus.htm[/url]
Car options range from first asking your hotel if they can collect you when you arrive, Swagman and the Orchid Inn already do this, at a price. Next option, Private Cars in the Arrivals halls there is an office to your right where you can book a car to take you up there. In fact it is very easy to get a car and most taxis will be willing to take you there, if you agree a fixed price first. The price is anywhere between 1,600 Pesos up to 4,000 Pesos
My advice to a first time visitor is to spend a day or two in Manila first and travel up later shopping is better in Manila and you can get some cash via ATM or money changer and take it up with you.
[u][b]Hotels[/b][/u]
Obviously Angeles City is the type of place that a majority of guys come to for SEX, so let’s make no bones about that. There are a couple of hotels here and you have to make your own judgement call on what you want, a room right in the heart of the action or somewhere quiet that is close by to the action. The noise you get is either from fellow guests having a party in their room at 4am with three bar girls or being near a road where you can here Karaoke being sung 24-7 or these unserviced motorbikes that screech up and down Fields Ave.
[b][i]Will I have a problem bringing girls back to my room?[/i][/b]
[i]This is the Philippines I am not aware of any hotel that will restrict or block you taking any girls to your room. In Angeles City you will have no problem taking two, three or four girls back to your room.[/i]
You have many options open to you and prices in AC are much cheaper than Manila but then so is the quality of service you may not get the range of services up here like gyms or swimming pools. Two I can recommend from personal experience are [url]www.orchid-inn.com[/url] and [url]www.hotelroyalamsterdam.com[/url] there are currently two other new hotels being built here, so do keep a look out for them.
Here is a full list of all the hotels in Angeles City [url]www.balibago.com/where_to_stay.html[/url]
[u][b]Getting Around[/b][/u]
Angeles City is a relatively small town, not really a city however the options are Tricycles, be warned that some of these tricycle drivers will try to rip you off if you do not agree a price beforehand. Never jump in without agreeing a price first.
Jeepney, easy to use the prices is fixed at 5.50 Pesos the blue Jeepneys take you from the Checkpoint to the Savers, Robinson’s & Nipper Malls down town but it’s a limited route.
Taxis on Field Ave are difficult to find you can get one at the terminal to Clark’s check Point.
Those of you a little adventurous, who really do want to live life to the full; you can easily hire motorbikes from 500 Pesos a day, from many stores along Fields Ave or your hotel will be able to recommend a good dealer. Likewise you can also hire cars at around 1,000 Pesos a day to go further afiield.
[u][b]ATMs & Cash[/b][/u]
There are a couple of ATM machines to be found in the area but do what I usually do when you are in Manila take out enough cash to get you by for your stay in Angeles obviously if you are staying for a long time you will need to locate a machine. There are four banks within a ten minute walk from Field’s Ave and many money changers and for those of you that have spent rather more than you have budgeted for a couple of porn shops that accept cell phones. Robinson’s Mall does not have any ATMs, which is strange for a mall, while the SM Mall in Pampanga has several but the SM mall is around 20 minutes away by taxi and will cost you between 700- 1000 Pesos to get there and back.
For European holders of Maestro, Delta or Switch cards will work in Metrobank and Chinabank ATMs, HSBC and CitiBank are only in Makatia although according to HSBC website that claims to have a branch and ATM in Angeles but I could not find it.[b]Note[/b] you need to check with your bank what the charge is for using overseas ATMS, so its not good to keep taking out small amounts of cash.
[b][i]How much will I need to bring with me?[/i][/b]
[i]Its up to you, if you pay for your hotel with a credit card then basically you will just need money for drinking, girls, eating, laundry, cell phone and getting around.[/i]
[u]Typical day for a monger[/u]
1 girl 1500 Pesos (includes ladies drinks)
1 blowjob 500 Pesos (in the afternoon before you go out)
12 beers 840 Pesos (@ 70 Pesos but would be cheaper in happy hour)
Dinner for two 700 Pesos
Laundry 70 Pesos
Breakfast for two 700 Pesos
Top up Cell 300 Pesos
[u]Total 4610 Pesos[/u] (U$85/£44/€63) @ no of days you stay
However, I doubt you will be spending this amount every day.
[u][b]Girls[/b][/u]
This is Angeles City there are all types up here and generally its difficult to say what is attractive to you would be attractive to me. I walk into a bar and the type of girls I go for are a little older and experience looking the ones, who I think will enjoy sex, which many guys would not go for. I have seen many guys this week and couple of them had gone for girls I wouldn’t touch. Your typical Asian guy or rather I should say Japanese, Korean or Taiwanese would go for the young looking white skinned, some American and Europeans prefer the darker skinned older types. As for myself I would say if you look hard enough you will find something that will appeal to your taste – if you don’t then [i] you are just too dam fussy[/i]. I doubt you will find any beauty queens up here, but many pretty girls do pass through this city on their way to other things, I have met many girls who are going to Japan or have just returned, so go to as many bars as you can and if luck is with you that beauty may just be waiting for you.
Don’t let the door girls (see photos) cloud your judgement on the quality available inside, all bars employ the prettiest girls to work the door to pull in the customers (obviously!!) I mean if you ran a bar would you keep your beauty queens hidden inside whilst you had all the dragons on the door??
Many of the girls here maybe new to working in a bar, some may be naïve to sex so you might have to tutor them a little in bed. If a girl has good looks and gain some experience they will usually head off to other places to make more money.
[b]My Tip[/b] for you is to put on your walking shoes and check out as many bars as you can – you never know what you will find until you look.
[b][u]Cellphones[/u][/b]
It’s easy to find all your cell phone and accessories up here even if you bring a compatible phone from home you can purchase the chip from Globe [url]www1.globe.com.ph/default.aspx[/url] or Smart [url]www.smart.com.ph[/url] and a charger locally, and top up your phone easily on and around Fields Avenue 24 Hours a day. The top floor of Robinson’s has a good choice of new phones for sale, latest models also available.
[b][u]Note[/u][/b] Philippino girls are incredible inquisitive, if you leave your cell phone lying around they will check to see who you have been receiving text messages from and which names you have in your address book. Worse still some of the devious ones will transfer credit from your cell to their phones. So keep your phone either in your pocket or locked away.
[u][b]Bar Fines:[/b][/u]
I have tried to make a point of visiting as many of the bar in AC to get a realistic idea of bar fines, since on the board there are mixed messages about the bar fines. Yes, it’s a tough job but someone’s got to do it.
Contrary to other places when you pay a bar fine here you don’t need to agree an additional price with the girl. Tip only if you want to, but usually the girls will tell you that’s its up to you what you want to pay or how long they can stay for. So your best bet is to bring some small presents for the girls and they all like chocolate and treat them right but them dinner or drinks. Most girls will stay all night and will usually have breakfast with you. The bar fine varies between 1000 Pesos and 1250 – 3000 Pesos for the spotlight dancer in the DollHouse. Many guys come up here bar fine a girl they like for several days and take them to Boracay or wherever takes your fancy Cebu, Hong Kong, Paris?
[b][u]Note:[/u][/b] In a bar dancers, door girls, waitresses and if you really fancy it the mamasan can all be bar fined, although I have never seen anyone actually bar fine a mamasan.
[b]Bars Charging:[/b]
[b]1250 Pesos[/b]
Blue Nile Executive, Angel, Vodoo, Lollipop
[b]1200 Pesos[/b]
Agasya, Treasure Island, Dollhouse, The Flamingo Club, Dirty Duck, Cambodia, Blue Nile,
Geckos, The Owls Nest 1200 [photos], Club Lancelot, The Bedrock, Misty,
Top Cat, Wild Wild West, Brown Sugar, Camelot, Insomnia, Black Jacks, Nero’s, Viper, La Pasha, The Kitten Club, Bunny Bar, Jungle, Stinger, Las Vegas, The Blueberry Hill,
[b][u]Note[/u]: Dollhouse[/b], the 6 or 9 spotlight dancers are bar fined at 3000 Pesos each (U$55/£28/€41) these are the girls who come on and do a sexy routine every 30 minutes throughout the day.
[b]1100 Pesos[/b]
DMZ
[b]1000 Pesos[/b]
The Wellcome Inn, Bananitas, Rhapsody, La Banitas, Roadhouse, Private Dancer, Butterfly Rocks, D'Club, Bar Hoppin, Lipstick, Stampede, Cherry Club, Gentleman’s Club, Emotion, Touch Of Class,
[b]What is a good bar..?[/b]
[i]Its difficult to say, this depends on you age, your preference in women, taste in music, whether you want a quite bar with pool table and being able to talk to the girls instead of shouting or somewhere you can enjoy a drink and girls. This is Angeles City there is likely to be somewhere that matches your tastes.[/i]
[b][u]Blow Row – Santos Street[/u][/b]
See my post from last year:-
[url]www.*************.info/forum/showthread.php?p=303568#post303568[/url]
[u][b]Clubs / Discos[/b][/u]
There are a number of clubs up here [b]The Pick Up Disco[/b] & [b]Sky Traks[/b] and other more up market establishments like [b]R&B[/b], which has live acts (see photo). I don’t know if these are really good places to pick up girls although the disco do have a few freelancers in here, I would suggest that if you meet a girl in a regular bar that you take her to one of these places on her night off.
[b][u]Viagra and Cialis[/u][/b]
I will put my hands up and say that I am not an expert on these drugs, however, I would suggest that if you are purchasing these items that you go to a proper pharmacist and don’t use one of these street vendors trying to flog you them from anywhere between 500 pesos and 1,500 a box. (see photo)
[b][u]Pool Tables[/u][/b]
There are around 20 odd bars with Pool Tables, larger ones like Margarita Station and Kokomos have several tables, so you will always find somewhere to play when you are fed up with drinking and looking at the sexy girls dancing, you can have a ball or two. You can bring your pool cues or purchase them locally.
[b][u]Laundry[/u][/b]
For all your laundry needs l suggest you go to Mamacitas which is close by the Orchid Inn, but as you will have plenty of time on your hands so make a point of taking your laundry there and a kilo starts off at only 30 Peso, yes that is only 30 Pesos. There are many places that provide this service but its easy to arrange. Mamacita’s is a much quicker service because if you take it early in the mornings usually you can get it back by early afternoon, especially if you ask nicely.
Mamacita Laundryshop
110 Oak St
Tel: 09186 349813
[u][b]Crime[/b][/u]
Unfortunately crime seems to be on the rise here, I have heard a number of stories from people and mainly it seems tricycle drivers are the main culprit. One girl told me that when the girls go home in the early hours the tricycle drivers are setting up the passenger, diverting somewhere and have someone snatch their bags for their money or cell phones because they believe the girls are carrying 500- 1000 Pesos tips every night working in the bars. Once they realise that in fact many girls are only carrying 50- 100 Pesos in their bags at most, they will no doubt move on to the tourists. A couple of shops have been robbed in the early hours and many are no longer remaining open after midnight. There are malicious people hanging around the streets after dark hoping to snatch a cell phone or money – so be vigilant. One reason there is now a more visible police presents along Fields Aves, with a Tourist Police office down by the main strip and I kept seeing the police, K9 Unit and walking up and down with their dogs on a daily basis and SWAT several times.
[u][b]Scams[/b][/u]
If you are like me and like walking you will no doubt be stopped by people claiming to be the driver from your hotel and offering to do you a big favour – [b]buyer beware is all l say[/b]. Don’t go anywhere with them and do not give any personal details and [u]don’t lend them any money[/u].
[b][u]Beggars[/u][/b]
Anyone walking about in Angeles City is likely to be faced with beggars at some time during your stay; some are polite others can be aggressive or rude. I tend to keep a pocketful of 1 Peso coins which I give to the polite ones, this way the next time you pass they don’t bother you too much. But even if you changed a 100 Pesos into coins in a week you would not got rid of them all.
[b][u]ICE[/u][/b]
A while back I stated that it was safe to have ice in your drinks, I know there are still some travel books written in the 1960’s that states the only safe thing to drink overseas is Coca Cola. Well, things have moved on since that time and the water purification industry is a multi-million dollar industry. I have just spent two weeks in Makati and Angeles City, taking my drinks with ice with no ill-effect whatsoever. As a majority of the bars in AC are owned by expatriates I mentioned this to one and his answer was blunt and simply. We’re not in the business of making our clients ill we want them to keep coming back spending their money.” So there you are, its safe to enjoy your Martinis shaken and not stirred and on the rocks and you can live to Die Another Day. This only applies to the bars some of the street vendor’s ice looks somewhat dodgy and I saw many with the ice on the streets.
[b]24 Hours[/b]
Angeles City is the type of place where you can find just about everything 24 hours a day, food, women and some stores 7-11 etc but those of you planning to come down here in the early hours you around 1- 3am, there is still plenty of action available. The DollHouse is open 24 hours and I even went in there at 8am to have some breakfast OJ, inside were two other customers, one of them fast asleep. Blow row of Santos Street is open 24 hours.
[b][u]Sex Toys[/u][/b]
There are a couple a places that sell sex toys, the first is the perfume place, [b]Ask Cosmetics[/b] between [b]Sub Delicious[/b] and [b]Road House[/b] has a selection of vibrators and lubrication jelly in there and the other place is:
Nice & Nawty
1035 Fields Ave
(45) 625-6091
Opposite Rick’s café open from 12 – 12 every day, they also have DVDs and VCDs porn movies in there and various thongs although l saw no edible panties in there. Both places sell condoms international brands such as Durex and Trojan.
[color=blue]Juniour[/color]
PS if there is anything else you think should be added drop me a pm, and I will attached the photos later when the system is working.
[b]Frequent Flier[/b]
Thanks for the information; as I have already said I personally have not seen anything negative concerning the Dollhouse, but you do raise some important questions. The reason is I often get people telling me the same thing to boycott this or that club or bar. Fine I say but give me the background and information and let me make my own mind up.
The first thing I would say is that if these guys are expats, as you have stated then why are they bar fining the girls in the first place? The Philippines is the one place where if you are resident for more that two weeks its so easy to get a regular squeeze. I can name no other place in the world that is so easy basically all you need is a dick, if you cannot find a regular woman and you are an expat – then there is something seriously wrong with you. I have been in Angeles City close on two weeks and been approached by a number of women, so if I resided there I would certainly not be bar fining the girls, rather I would go in and chat to them get their cell nos and arranged to meet up with them the following day. That is how easy it is in the Philippines, if you can’t do that - what more can I say. I have met many expats and they have told me much the same thing, so I would find it strange that some expat went to the Dollhouse and actually bar fined a girl who then later said she only wanted to go bar hopping – this is bizarre, to say the least. I spoke to some girls in the Dollhouse who I got talking too and they were happy to meet up socially no pressure was put on me to buy any ladies drinks. One of the door girls asked to come to my room because she wanted to chat to me but I declined her offer.
This really sounds like some tourist has a beef with the club, because when I bar fine the girls I usually discuss beforehand what I am expecting from them and I recall a girl from Cheeters Lounge, last September who when I was going to bar fine her said to me that she only wanted to go bar hopping which is fine except she had no money in her purse, I declined her offer. The only time I have been conned so to speak was with a girl in the LA Café who after we discussed what she would do then backed out on our arrangement and was claiming she was desperate for them money.
I would appreciate if you could copy over the information you have read concerning the Dollhouse in pm, please, to read it for myself.
[color=blue]Juniour[/color]