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Hi all:
Am preparing for a trip to Brasil but I am unable to access the gpguia.net site which has been very useful in the past
Is it just me or are others also unable to accesss gpguia.net? I get a "Forbidden" page!
Are there good alternatives to gpguia.net for reviews?
Obrigado
G
[QUOTE=Kent747]Is Bomboa still open?.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sui Generis]Yes, it is.[/QUOTE]
I've searched the boards for a review of this club. The pictures on their website [[url]http://www.bomboa.com.br][/url] makes the club look nice, on par with Cafe Foto. Can anyone provide a first-person account?
And since I mentioned Cafe Foto -- I read they might relocate. Are they still open at the "old" spot at Av. Helio Pellegrino, 480? Their website says they are [[url]http://www.cafephoto.com.br/english/index_br.asp][/url] but my experience in Brazil is websites are sometimes not kept up-to-the-minute with current information.
I know I'm asking a lot but any advice from someone on Monday night hot spots in Sampa would be appreciated as well. I promise to report back and return the favor with a comprehensive report.
LC
Lc, Bomboa is where I would go. You pay 190 as door fee but can use for drinks or food and they have a large menu selection. The girls are more gfe but they will try to get you to go to hotel next door where it's R100 and hour and whatever you negotiate with the girl. Usually 200-300. So your gonna be out of R600 to hang out and bang a girl for an hour.
Cafe Photo I don't know if they relocated but I was just there last week at the original location. You pay 190 as door fee and get 4 drink vouchers. I was disappointed with the selection of girls and didn't take anyone back. Most start out asking $R500. You will find alot of english speaking girls since they are there to cater to the gringos since photo is a "tourist trap. "
I've seen 2 girls from Photo and both were non gfe, out of the 10+ girls I've seen from Bomboa, 1 was not gfe. So you can understand my preference for Bomboa. The clubs are fun to hang out but not the best bang for your money, prives are. Sorry but I don't know anything about Sampa.
[QUOTE=Geriatno]Hi all:
Am preparing for a trip to Brasil but I am unable to access the gpguia.net site which has been very useful in the past
Is it just me or are others also unable to accesss gpguia.net? I get a "Forbidden" page!
Are there good alternatives to gpguia.net for reviews?
Obrigado
G[/QUOTE]
There is some sort of lock on it that blocks view from IP addresses that originate from outside of Brazil. I have heard of ways around it but so far I don't know what they are. Perhaps our Brasileiro brothers don't want us gringos muscling in on their action.
[QUOTE=Ricker]Wow! Couldn´t imagine paying those prices ...
Met a super hot sexy chica in KILT, she asks for 300R plus all the exit fees, etc to take her out when she´s working.
I got her cel nbr, called her up for an afternoon lunch and fun together.
Spent about 4-5 hours together, never talked money, I gave her 100R when she was leaving.
She must have been OK with it cause she´s coming back over tomorrow, and she called me :)
No need to break the bank, unless that´s what you´re in to of course.[/QUOTE]Maybe your girl really likes you! I gotta go to Kilt next time I'm in SP!
I don't consider that breaking the bank since it is still alot less than the US. The girls I've seen in SP would easily be $500/hr girls in the US. But when factoring flight and hotel then the cost is about the same though going to SP is a vacation for me and we all need vacations sometimes lol.
[QUOTE=Jake993]There is some sort of lock on it that blocks view from IP addresses that originate from outside of Brazil. I have heard of ways around it but so far I don't know what they are. Perhaps our Brasileiro brothers don't want us gringos muscling in on their action.[/QUOTE]I hear the site was hacked from outside Brazil. Use a proxy server to access. Search Google for one, may take some trial & error to find one that works for you. I was able to access the site via proxy server browser9.com
Use proxy transparent of brasil for enter in gpguia.net
[url]https://www.xroxy.com/proxylist.php?port=&type=&ssl=&country=BR&latency=&reliability=[/url]
[QUOTE=Chingon]I hear the site was hacked from outside Brazil. Use a proxy server to access. Search Google for one, may take some trial & error to find one that works for you. I was able to access the site via proxy server browser9.com[/QUOTE]
Hi Chingon:
I tried using a few different proxy servers, including browser9, but no luck yet.
When was the last time you accessed gpguia using a proxy server?
I have found wikigp but its not nearly as good as gpguia.
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Chingon]I hear the site was hacked from outside Brazil. Use a proxy server to access. Search Google for one, may take some trial & error to find one that works for you. I was able to access the site via proxy server browser9.com[/QUOTE]
I'll be back in Sao Paulo this coming week after a one year "absence". I'd appreciate any recent feedback on the status of some of the clubs we frequent when in town including:
--- Bon Vivant (same place as the old Donna Caffe --- I have heard mixed reports. Has anyone been there recently)?
--- Romanza (After several forced closings and one move across town, I understand it is open again in the original location on Nove de Julho. Again, has anyone been there recently)?
--- Garden Club (Last time I was in town, many girls warned me against the place as being "dangerous".)
I'd appreciate any opinions/feedback. Also, if there are specific newer clubs you would like a report on, let me know.
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Chingon]I hear the site was hacked from outside Brazil. Use a proxy server to access. Search Google for one, may take some trial & error to find one that works for you. I was able to access the site via proxy server browser9.com[/QUOTE]
Tried it today and got the "forbidden" message.
[QUOTE=Cho 637]Tried it today and got the "forbidden" message.[/QUOTE]Same,
Does anyone have any other options?
Hello,
I will be next week in Sao Paulo , Cafe Fotos is open or changed the location?
Please any information on that please advise.
Thank you
Anyone hire a taxi for a day?
Just wondering how much it should run.
For safety late at night and rip off taxi drivers reasons.
Can someone please explain the process for meeting an escort at Hotel Lido? Do they have a garage that you park in or is it one of these places where you order the room as you drive in and basically park in your own little garage? And are you supposed to wait for the escort before getting the room, or do you get it and call her with the room number?
My Portuguese isn't good enough to be able to ask myself.
Thanks for any help.
Guys,
I would appreciate your help. I am planning a trip to Sao Paulo in March and have never been to Brazil before.
Unfortunately, English is my only language so I may have some difficulties.
I will be in Sao Paulo for about 10 days, do you recommend that I stay at a hotel or rent a flat? Recomendations greatly appreciated.
I tend to prefer the strip club type places, any recommendations?
I appreciate your help.
Should I rent a car/driver or are the taxis reliable?
Thanks in advance!
Trev
All things considered, it's always better to speak (or understand at least) a little bit of Portuguese. However, you're not the only one on this board with this kind of limitation. As you can read here, even with no knowledge of Portuguese it's possible to have fun in that city.
Since it will be your first time in Brazil, I think that the best location for you is either Jardins or Pinheiros.
There's a nice hotel - combining both the facilities of an hotel and a flat - in Pinheiros.
[url]http://www.accorhotels.com.br/guiahoteis/mercure/hotel_main.asp?cd_hotel=92[/url]
This hotel is well located : your only a couple of feet away from Bomboa (so, you don't need a taxi to go there) and you're close to the Clinicas metro (subway) station.
The other choice is an hotel in Jardim
[url]http://www.accorhotels.com.br/guiahoteis/mercure/hotel_main.asp?cd_hotel=23[/url]
But as I don't hang out in Jardim while I am in Sampa (I prefer Moema) I'm sure that the colleagues on this board will gladly help you and come up with better suggestions.
Good luck and have a nice trip.
Hello:
I have been to SP a few times and always liked the Jardins area because many of the acompanhantes (escorts in ingles) live in the area so usually not too much time between when you call them and they show up. These are usually the more upscale garota de programas, usually BR 250.
The Mercure Jardins (as suggested in the past post) is a great hotel, and so is the St. Germain by the same chain in the area. You should also look at Transamerica flats in the area, and Othon flats. They are all GP friendly, and most of them are around US$100 a night. Some come with balconies which can be so very nice and almost all with internet, which usually costs more but is essential for me.
I have heard great things about other areas in SP (Moema, Itaim Bibi, Olimpa) but have not yet checked them out, so no comment.
It can be difficult to get around without basic Portuguese or Spanish in Brasil, I have seen too many "English only" folks being taken for a ride all the time. It can be particularly difficult to negotiate prices if you have no language skills.
It is a game, after all, and if you can't play, you will lose.
Cheers
G
I had experienced same inconvenience in the past.
However, I am trying now from outside Brazil and it works, just simply writing the right url in the address bar.
[QUOTE=Chingon]I hear the site was hacked from outside Brazil. Use a proxy server to access. Search Google for one, may take some trial & error to find one that works for you. I was able to access the site via proxy server browser9.com[/QUOTE]
It should be operating normally.
Please go to [url]http://www.cafephoto.com.br/[/url]
[QUOTE=Joe47]Hello,
I will be next week in Sao Paulo , Cafe Fotos is open or changed the location?
Please any information on that please advise.
Thank you[/QUOTE]
Trevor, let me try to answer question by question
[QUOTE=Trevor 3005]
Unfortunately, English is my only language so I may have some difficulties.
[/QUOTE]
Not necessarily, many mongers don't speak a word of Portuguese but they can enjoy. In case you go to clubs, I am sure you can find girls who speak some English.
[QUOTE=Trevor 3005]
I will be in Sao Paulo for about 10 days, do you recommend that I stay at a hotel or rent a flat? Recomendations greatly appreciated.
[/QUOTE]
Usually flat tend to be less expensive than hotels.
I agree with others who replied earlier who suggested Jardins or Moema areas.
Flat I can suggest is Opera, located in Alameda Lorena ([url]www.transamericaflats.com.br[/url]).
However in case you come here for business, your hotel location may depend on area where you have to make business or where your business partners reside.
Don't forget this is a huge metropolis with huge traffic problems.
[QUOTE=Trevor 3005]
I tend to prefer the strip club type places, any recommendations?
[/QUOTE]
I am not a club guy, so I cannot help in this case
Years ago I went a few times to Kilt, good compromise quality/price but I don't even know if place is still open.
In case money is not an issue, you may want to try Cafe Photo.
[QUOTE=Trevor 3005]
Should I rent a car/driver or are the taxis reliable?
[/QUOTE]
I don't recommend you rent a car. Traffic here is very heavy and, as you don't know directions, you may spend hours in the car going from one side to the other of the city.
Go by taxi, much easy and reliable. Also, all taxi run meter so no risk to be ripped off.
Enjoy
My friends,, very quickly will try to report some news on SP recent action..
I hope the girls are coming back home now,, many of them take long vacation to the beaches and many others go to their home towns until end of January.
Ok, Cafe Photo still in the same address they are open and functioning almost normal... Still too expensive for the quality but still the best place in town IMHO
Bamboa still open good quality of girls less expensive than CF .. There is another place kind of a Sauna that I discovered this time is almost as good and prices are more affordable, So send me a PM to get the address, they DO NOT advertise as a brothel at all, they even asked to GPguia to delete all the info about them from the board.. So you suppose to go ONLY for the massage but the full service is negotiable directly with the garota in the room... 140 cover and sauna massage plus the extra for the FS.. I negociated 200 but girls ask you 300, even 400 all depends of your skills...
Other place you MUST to go is Bacos in Sao Bernardo many new girls from Minas, Salvador, Bahia and country side are coming there... cover 80R room70 and girls from 200 and UP ,,
Conection is the next place to go 90R cover 70room girls from 250 and up...
Places are crowded so get there early to pick the best ones...
they open from 8 Pm but most girls get there after 10 Pm .. Sites are down but here are the links whit the info
[url]http://www.apontador.com.br/local/sp/sao_bernardo_do_campo/teatro_e_cultura/7M22K49T/bacos_sauna_night_club_ltda.html[/url]
[url]http://www.apontador.com.br/local/sp/sao_paulo/night_clubs/8C4JW443/connection_night_club.html[/url]
The rest is on the board, ,you know,, all the action on Rua Augusta and so.. there is always some lost gems to find there...
AHH the prives are now operating almost with complete staff .. they where real poor when I got there..
Bro Suigeneris, Thanks for the links, but RedWay was almost empty and I did not find ANY good looking this time.. the other prive was just the same... and Antares is in a very low seasson,, NOT ANY good looking girl there.. Juliana my favorite is not there anymore .. GOD she is almost perfect.. ANYBODY know what happened to her??
And last tip.. If you guys are brave enough to drive I definitely recommend it.. I saved a lot of money in taxis,, they run with the meter.. but the rate is a total rip off in my opinion.. If you do not know the city they take always the longest way also... Get a GPS and you can go almost to any clinica or prive during the day.. BUt first google the map to know how far is from your hotel and what part of the city is.. DO NOT intent to go to the perimeters when is dark and you will be fine..
[url]http://mclass.com.br/scripts/mclass.dll/det?codaco=1675&retorno=0&lin=1[/url]
Guys.. one of the good girls I saw this time and I can say worth it each R is Carina..Hard to be impartial because we ended up being very good friends.
The best think about this girl is that she LOVES to f'''' and I mean she LOVES it.. her performance I know will knok you down.. besides she is very pretty and knows exactly what you need..
Bad ponit is her brest.. I do not like artificial boobs is not he pretties thing..
Bud three rounds in almost 2 hours we spent talk more than 1000 worlds..
She speaks fluent Spanish for those latin guys around..
250 in a very hight rated hotel in Moema ,, or 300 plus taxi to your place if I remember right she said..
GL
AHH almst forget.. she answer the back door and the BJ is bare ;) and her kisses are KISSES!! a perfect lover I would say.. enjoy her..
[url]http://mclass.com.br/scripts/mclass.dll/det?codaco=1500&retorno=0&lin=1[/url]
Here is another good friend I'm lucky to have..
Lana is like the teen pornostar you always lusted.. (well I did so)
I have to say I need to be in a very good rested day to keep on with her..
Lana likes mirrors and toys and some rough sex.. besides she is gorgeous.. The only problem probably for many mongers here is that: she is very blond and the tan doesn't last on her.
250 R but if she likes you you can even go to a swinger place to have more fun with her... everything is negociable even over nights.. and what a nights..
well any other questions feel free to contact me...
Dealdo,
Are Carina and Lana's photos on Mclass accurate. What do they include and not include (completa BBBJ. Etc.
Thanks for the post.
I woke up at 7. 00 after less than 3 hours of sleeping because my scheduled for the day was a trip outside of Sao Paulo to visit a factory.
At 7. 25, after showering and shaving, I was ready to leave my room. I woke up Camila but she misunderstood my move: she try to grab my cock and whispered " I want to suck you. ".
I was really in a hurry and I couldn't indulge.
I told her that if she wants she could stay in my room to sleep and I kissed her goodbye (after putting 400 Reais on the small table beside the bed).
Jairo was waiting for me in the lobby and from my smile guessed that I had taken a girl for the night.
I didn't bother to tell him that my girls was actually "his" girl.
Jairo drove to his office where an helicopter was waiting for us. It's really nice that Brazil offers the possibility to rent an helicopter at reasonable price allowing you to avoid traffic congestions!
The trip took less than 40 minutes and the visit was worthy the 4 hours we spent there (I mean for my business). Still the owner was a little bit too much on the greedy side but, you know, everyone must make a living.
Before going back to downtown Sao Paulo Jairo asked me if I want to have some fun in the afternoon. Still havng an hard-on from the goodbye-kiss I had given to Camila in the early morning I just nodded.
Jairo told me that he wanted me to try first class service and that I should trust him. I did it and didn't regret for a minute!
He called a Motel In Pinheiros and booked for the two of us. Then he called two girls from a very respectable brazilian escorts website ([url]www.mclass.com. Br[/url]) and told them to go to the Motel at 3. 00 PM.
Jairo is married and knows very well his way around.
After going back to downtown Sao Paulo (by helicopter again) Jairo drove up to the Astúrias Motel that is located on the Avenida Nações Unidas.
Once at the motel I found out that Jairo had reserved a suite with two bedrooms, jacuzzi, sauna and even a small swimming pool. I found out also that the price for 4 hours (minumum time of staying) is 219 Reais. That was definitely a first class motel that provides even a vale-parking service!
We ordered some drinks and decided to have a swim in the pool while waiting for the girls.
We didn't have to wait for too long: five minutes before 3. 00 they arrived at the motel and rang Jairo.
When the girls entered the room I was stunned: two of the best looking brazilian women I've ever seen in my life!
The girl I soon discovered was booked for me was a 23 years old brunette called Fabiana. Later I discover that this stunning beauty (I think her pictures are still on the escort agency website) would be on the Dicember issue (this report refers to my November trip) of Playboy Brazil.
The other girl was a "regular" of Jairo: I think she is one of the tollest girls I ever seen in Brazil (at least 1. 80) with tits accordingly to her size. She introduced to me as Camille.
Camille started giving a blowjob to Jairo in the jacuzzi while Fabiana made the same to me on a sun-chair beside the swimming pool. A funny thing happened when my mobile phone rang while Fabiana was showing me her oral skills. It was my wife (she has a gifts to call in the worst possible situations) so I had to answer. Fabiana understood the situation but didn't stop to suck. So I had to cut the phone call short telling my wife that I was in the middle of a business meeting. Just a little lie as I was actually very busy.
After a while I started hearing some strong moans from inside. As we entered the room we saw Jairo fucking his girl in the ass. And he was fucking her quite strong! A good peformance for a man of his age: I would like to be like him when I am older. So we moved to our room for some "serious" fun.
I never went too much into the details (even because frankly I can not remember too much details of my fucks.) so it's enough to say that the following 3 hours were fantastic: I came two times, the latter on Fabiana face! Anal was not on the menu but I could really not complain about the service.
Really a first class experience!
The grls left (I did not pay but I Think Jairo gave them 500 reais each) and we did the same in few minutes.
Jairo drove me back to my hotel and at 7 o'clock I was entering my room.
Can you imagine my surprise when I saw Camila laying on the bed full asleep.
I woke her up and she told me that she hed spent all the day in the room, watching tv, listening to music, drinking something from the minibar and of course sleeping.
By the way my 400 Reais were still on the table.
I asked what she wanted to do and she adamantly said that she was starving and she wanted to go to dinner and later to dance.
At that point of the day, after sleeping just 3 hours the night before and after a hard day I was really tired.
So I said that was fine for me to go to dinner but before dancing I needed at least a nap.
She said no problem as real nightlife didn't start before midnight.
We ate at one of the hotel restaurant (fortunately Camila was, more or less, properly dressed: I. E. Not *****-wear) and some minutes after 8 o'clock I was sleeping in my bed.
Camila woke me up shortly before midnight and in less than 30 minutes we arrived in the Lotus Bar that is located (like the motel I had been in the afternoon) on Avenida Nações Unidas, exactly on the third floor of World Trade Center building.
Actually it is one of the best nightclub in town and it mainly caters from the upper classes young people.
Some serious stunners there but of course none of them was available: may be some of them were top escorts (but in any case they arrived with their respective men) but the vast majority of the girls in the club were "normal" girls".
Prices were on the (very) expensive side but Camila really seemed to enjoy the night and that was fine for me.
At five o'clock we were back to the hotel.
Sex before sleeping was really great, not hardcore-style but passionate and warm.
The same was the morning after.
I was lucky that the following day was my last day: I was starting feeling something more than just sexual attraction for Camila.
And this is not what I look for in the pay-for-pussy game.
At 11 o'clock Camila left my room. I gave her a total of 1000 Reais and she gave me a kiss, her mobile number and e-mail address.
Honestly I don't know if I am going to use them in the future.
I had a lunch with Jairo and she asked me if I wanted Fabiana mobile number for a last fuck before going to the airport.
I kindly declined as I was not really in the mood.
At 5 o'clock I was in the Lufthansa lounge at the airport drinking a gin tonic and waiting form my 20. 10 PM flight to Frankfurt.
Italy 1974
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[QUOTE=Geriatno]
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Are there good alternatives to gpguia.net for reviews?
...
[/QUOTE]
You may want to try following:
[url]www.forumsd.com.br[/url] (a real good one)
[url]www.forum.portaldasacompanhantes.com.br[/url] (same look as gpguia but much less reports)
[url]www.gpsportclub.com[/url] (new website)
p.s. fyi tried again today from ouside Brazil and gpguia works
Italy, that's really f'''''g with style =) nice report... can you put the links from the GPs please?
Are you talking about this Camila?? [url]http://mclass.com.br/scripts/mclass.dll/det?codaco=1364&retorno=0&lin=1[/url]
I know her.. she has a very bad reputation.. bad service and stuff.. with me was real good sex but is one of those you need to work them out to bring their gards down.. Also people told me she was very fat ,, surpricely she is slimm and fit , I took the risk because the pictures drove me crazy..
Thanks for sharing ...
[QUOTE=Rwaters]Dealdo,
Are Carina and Lana's photos on Mclass accurate. What do they include and not include (completa BBBJ. Etc.
Thanks for the post.[/QUOTE]
Waters... Pictures have a LOT of photoshop... all of them in Mclass..
Carina has the same pretty face .. probably is even cutier in person ,, for me.. but her body has to much brush.. Lana is very pretty but looks some different in those pictures,, to much make up and photoshop.. nice body but not a gym body.. They both are young.. 22 somethng like that..
Service is COMPLETE and bbbj both of them.. at least with me.. BUt for their talking about their work I can figure out they are like that with most.. They love what they do, you can feel it.. good luck .. both are pretty for sure but the best is their service and actitud
[QUOTE=Italy 1974]The girl I soon discovered was booked for me was a 23 years old brunette called Fabiana. Later I discover that this stunning beauty (I think her pictures are still on the escort agency website) would be on the Dicember issue (this report refers to my November trip) of Playboy Brazil.[/QUOTE]I looked all over the internet for her pictures in playboy but couldn't find any. I want to compare her pics on mclass and playboy.
Anybody find her pictures in playboy?
[QUOTE=Dealdo]Waters... Pictures have a LOT of photoshop... all of them in Mclass..[/QUOTE]
I agree, the pictures are heavily edited. A few months ago I was with this one, Carolina:
[url]http://mclass.com.br/scripts/mclass.dll/det?codaco=1521&retorno=0&lin=1[/url]
She looks cute in the MClass pictures. But in real life she's completely cross-eyed! Sadly, I'm not kidding. Service was pretty weak too, but the fact that these guys completely fixed her cross-eyed problem in the pictures is what got me.
Hulk are you sure is the same Girl we are talking about? If I do remember she stared publishing at Mclass just before Xms..
I did not see her crossed eyes.. that would be noticeable..
Weak service? looks like a different girl to me bro.. But we never know how these girl will act next day or even next minute..
She just got to SP from Spain as far as I know...
I think you misunderstood a little bit.
CAMILA is a girl I picked up at Bomboa.
CAMILLE is the girl my friend choose for himself at [url]www.mclass.com.br[/url].
FABIANA is the girl my friend choose for me from [url]www.mclass.com.br[/url] and she is the girl who was on Playboy whose picture you can find on mcclass website at the following link: [url]http://www.mclass.com.br/scripts/mclass.dll/det?codaco=1558&retorno=0&lin=1[/url]
The Camila you wrote about isn't related in any way with "my" Camila whom I picked up, as I wrote, at Bomboa.
Italy 1974
[QUOTE=Dealdo]Italy, that's really f'''''g with style =) nice report... can you put the links from the GPs please?
Are you talking about this Camila?? [url]http://mclass.com.br/scripts/mclass.dll/det?codaco=1364&retorno=0&lin=1[/url]
I know her.. she has a very bad reputation.. bad service and stuff.. with me was real good sex but is one of those you need to work them out to bring their gards down.. Also people told me she was very fat ,, surpricely she is slimm and fit , I took the risk because the pictures drove me crazy.
Thanks for sharing ...[/QUOTE]
I was told by my friend that her pictures were on the December issue of Playboy (Brazilian edition).
I didn't bother to check it out but she would surely deserve it!
Italy 1974
[QUOTE=Hobbying]I looked all over the internet for her pictures in playboy but couldn't find any. I want to compare her pics on mclass and playboy.
Anybody find her pictures in playboy?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dealdo]Hulk are you sure is the same Girl we are talking about?[/QUOTE]
I'm sure Carolina is very cross-eyed, she's the one in my link. But I think you were talking about other girls. I saw Carolina in October, but I remember she said she was originally from Curitiba and had been in Sao Paulo about a year. She didn't mention anything about Spain when I was with her.
I just mentioned Carolina as an example of how far the MClass guys will go in editing the girl's pictures. I haven't been with any other MClass girl in long time mostly because of how far they will go with Photoshop.
[QUOTE=Hulk]I'm sure Carolina is very cross-eyed, she's the one in my link. But I think you were talking about other girls. I saw Carolina in October, but I remember she said she was originally from Curitiba and had been in Sao Paulo about a year. She didn't mention anything about Spain when I was with her.
I just mentioned Carolina as an example of how far the MClass guys will go in editing the girl's pictures. I haven't been with any other MClass girl in long time mostly because of how far they will go with Photoshop.[/QUOTE]
Hulk now I understand, your link is another girl: CaROlina. and yes I can see her eyes,, is not the same the girl I talk about: CaRIna that was my confusion the names are very similar.. and I did not checked your link until now..
Hulk is right ,, most girls are super produced by the plastic doctor Mr Photoshop .. so beware and do not expect the 10's you see in pictures...
One of the reason Cafe Photo still operating charging that much.. You can see the plates before order from the menu...
[QUOTE=Italy 1974]I think you misunderstood a little bit.
CAMILA is a girl I picked up at Bomboa.
CAMILLE is the girl my friend choose for himself at [url]www.mclass.com.br[/url].
FABIANA is the girl my friend choose for me from [url]www.mclass.com.br[/url] and she is the girl who was on Playboy whose picture you can find on mcclass website at the following link: [url]http://www.mclass.com.br/scripts/mclass.dll/det?codaco=1558&retorno=0&lin=1[/url]
The Camila you wrote about isn't related in any way with "my" Camila whom I picked up, as I wrote, at Bomboa.
Italy 1974[/QUOTE]
Thank you Italy I'm reading in between lines lately.. Busy working at the same time you know... I was at Bamboa this time as well.. can you describe Camila? you say she is real good? and how is Camille from Mclass? I did not trust her pictures for some reason besides most girls when they say are 25 in reality are 30 at least, one more reason I never have called her...
Fabiana looks good,, I know that Coelhinhas are in good shape most of the time..
I have been with some of them.. Fabiana says was in Playboy on October 2007 and destaque in Sexy magazine on December 2008 .. is a guaranty when they posse for some of this magazines in my experience..
[QUOTE=Italy 1974]I think you misunderstood a little bit.
CAMILA is a girl I picked up at Bomboa.
CAMILLE is the girl my friend choose for himself at [url]www.mclass.com.br[/url].
FABIANA is the girl my friend choose for me from [url]www.mclass.com.br[/url] and she is the girl who was on Playboy whose picture you can find on mcclass website at the following link: [url]http://www.mclass.com.br/scripts/mclass.dll/det?codaco=1558&retorno=0&lin=1[/url]
The Camila you wrote about isn't related in any way with "my" Camila whom I picked up, as I wrote, at Bomboa.
Italy 1974[/QUOTE]Very interesting. Can you help me a little bit with some advices. During the next months I will go to Brazil.
I'm Italian, I try to send you an Mp but you have disable private messaging. Can we find a way to comunicate via mail or cell phone in Italian?
Please help me.
You're welcome Dealdo.
Ragarding you questions, Camila from Bomboa is a slim white girl with dark brown hair; she is 18 years old and she has very nice legs. Definitley you can recognize her from her long legs that she likes to show wearing short dresses.
I think you can ask to some of the staff tought she doesn't come to Bomboa everyday: in the weekedns your chances to find her there are much bigger than during the week.
By the way, I think that Bomboa richt now is one of the best places for hunting. I have benn there also in my last trip (in December I have been 3 days in Sao Paulo) and I found good quality girls and fair prices.
About Camille from Mclass, I can not say anything precise about her age but she is surely under 30. She is tall (1. 80) but not fat. Nice bunda and really big (silicone) tits.
About Fabiana, she looks great. As you wrote, when a girl poses for a magazine like Playboy, this is always a guarantee!
Only downside (but it's just a little one conidering the level of my porn experience with her.) is that anal is not on her menu.
Regards,
Italy 1974
[QUOTE=Dealdo]Thank you Italy I'm reading in between lines lately. Busy working at the same time you know. I was at Bamboa this time as well. Can you describe Camila? You say she is real good? And how is Camille from Mclass? I did not trust her pictures for some reason besides most girls when they say are 25 in reality are 30 at least, one more reason I never have called her.
Fabiana looks good, I know that Coelhinhas are in good shape most of the time. I have been with some of them. Fabiana says was in Playboy on October 2007 and destaque in Sexy magazine on December 2008. Is a guaranty when they posse for some of this magazines in my experience. [/QUOTE][size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
Italy thanks again .. I will look for Camila next time.. I think I saw her..
And now talking about abuse of photo shop from Mclass our friend Hulk was talking about I will post this kind of bad experience..
I called Juliana, as you can see her pictures are striking.. Garota is nice and very friendly over the phone..
In person is even more nice and always ready to party and please you ..
The only problem is that I barely recognize her... she has nice lips and eyes but I don't know, you can't say she is drop dead gorgeous like the pics ..
Her body is super slim and petite.. besides she smokes to much and her pussy doesn't smell too good either..
She did her best but I was kind of uncomfortable and only was thinking to finish to take a shower..
The BJ is with out "it" and she claims to do "speak" Greek,, I did not use the option of course..
Probably had a bad day or was her last service,, I do not know,, I just know I wouldn't repeat..
[url]http://www.mclass.com.br/scripts/mclass.dll/det?codaco=1660&retorno=0&lin=1[/url]
Hello fellow hobbiest,
I will be spending a day in SP (my first time in Sampa) on the 20th of Feb, the day of the start of the SP Carnaval. I have a few questions for the connoisseurs of SP.
Since I will be leaving town the next day, I would want to stay close to GRU. I heard from friends in SP that the area near the international airport is not that nice and safe. Any truth to that?
Can you recommend a good hotel, nothing fancy, just a good reliable one within proximity of the airport and to a at least a clinica?
By the way, is Clinica Kin still open and how far is it from the GRU airport? If I were to stay in central SP, near Avenida Paulista, how far is that from the GRU airport by taxi?
Will there be any clinica open on that Friday of Carnaval or is everything closed that weekend?
I thank you all for your replies, they are very much appreciated!
Valeu!:)
I don't know if Clinica Kin is still open but I guess it is.
Clinica Kin is located near Avenida Santo Amaro that -if my memory helps- is close to the Congonhas airport but 20 km far from GRU.
I think it doesn't worth to stay in a hotel close to GRU: it isn't a nice area at all and about safety I wouldn't put my bet on it.
Best choice is to stay in central Sao Paulo which is a 20 km trip from GRU.
By taxi you may need from 20 minutes to more than 1 hour depending on which time of the day and traffic jams.
My suggestion: for the night Club Bomboa (not so far from the Avenida Paulista); for the afternoon I suggest you Clinica Shangri-La that is located in Avenida Pompeia (Perdizes) not so far as well from Avenida Paulista. I've been there now and then and I've always found nice girls providing good service.
I hope this can help.
Italy 1974
[QUOTE=Sprite13]Hello fellow hobbiest,
I will be spending a day in SP (my first time in Sampa) on the 20th of Feb, the day of the start of the SP Carnaval. I have a few questions for the connoisseurs of SP.
Since I will be leaving town the next day, I would want to stay close to GRU. I heard from friends in SP that the area near the international airport is not that nice and safe. Any truth to that?
Can you recommend a good hotel, nothing fancy, just a good reliable one within proximity of the airport and to a at least a clinica?
By the way, is Clinica Kin still open and how far is it from the GRU airport? If I were to stay in central SP, near Avenida Paulista, how far is that from the GRU airport by taxi?
Will there be any clinica open on that Friday of Carnaval or is everything closed that weekend?
I thank you all for your replies, they are very much appreciated!
Valeu!:)[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sprite13]
Since I will be leaving town the next day, I would want to stay close to GRU. I heard from friends in SP that the area near the international airport is not that nice and safe. Any truth to that?
Can you recommend a good hotel, nothing fancy, just a good reliable one within proximity of the airport and to a at least a clinica?
By the way, is Clinica Kin still open and how far is it from the GRU airport? If I were to stay in central SP, near Avenida Paulista, how far is that from the GRU airport by taxi?
Will there be any clinica open on that Friday of Carnaval or is everything closed that weekend?
[/QUOTE]
1) Nice and safe?
Guarulhos is not nice. There's a couple of favela (such as Itapejica) near that bairro. The worst site is, when your on the Dutra, to see all those cheap motels.
There was a time when Guarulhos was worst in terms of safety. For example there were 804 murders in 2002 and only(!) 487 in 2006.
[url]http://jornalismoexperimentalfaria.********.com/2008/09/criminalidade-em-guarulhos.html[/url]
2) Hotels in Guarulhos
[url]http://www.hoteis-pousadas.com.br/guarulhos/hoteisemguarulhos.htm[/url]
3) Some Clínicas and action spots near GRU Airport
GLAMOUR : (11) 6422-1986 / 7622-4191
R$100 for an hour
[url]http://www.clubg.com.br/[/url]
There's a new privê (it opened November 26th 2008) near GRU
TAJ MAHAL : 101 Rua Conde Raul Furquim
From 10h00 am to 10h00 pm
R$30 for 1/2 h and $R60 for an hour.
Phone: 7858-2044
There's another privê in that region.
180 Rua Francisco de Paula Francisco
$R30 1/2hr R$50 for an hour.
There's also the Café Monik.
A garota de programa wokrs in that area
Bianca Dantas (she has at least half a dozen more names)
[url]http://www.brunaguarulhos.********.com/[/url]
R$200 for an hour. 15 postive TD, 8 negative and 1 medium
There's many more options but nothing in Guarulhos is exceptional. Maybee it's better to go downton Sampa
4) Is Clínica Kin still open?
Yes, it is.
[url]http://www.clinicakin.com.br/[/url]
5) If you want to take a taxi, take one from the Co. Guarucoop.
(11) 2440 7070
[url]http://www.radiotaxiazulebranco.com.br/eng/index.html[/url]
The reason is simple. They have a fixed-rate airport depending on the district you want to go. It's almost the same rate as a taxi with a meter. However, when you come back to the airport you will notice a difference because while a taxi from another fleet will charge you the run plus half the price (because they have to go back empty to the city) the Guarucoop taxi will still charge a flat rate.
Yesterday, the São Paulo Tribunal da Justicia acquitted Oscar Maroni, the former owner of Bahamas. They were unable to proove that Bahamas was a brothel.
Can we hope for a reversal of the trend in Sampa in 2009? No more raid and witch hunt against garota de programe and customers....
[url]http://g1.globo.com/Noticias/SaoPaulo/0,,MUL959515-5605,00.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Sui Generis]Yesterday, the São Paulo Tribunal da Justicia acquitted Oscar Maroni, the former owner of Bahamas. They were unable to proove that Bahamas was a brothel.
Can we hope for a reversal of the trend in Sampa in 2009? No more raid and witch hunt against garota de programe and customers....
[url]http://g1.globo.com/Noticias/SaoPaulo/0,,MUL959515-5605,00.html[/url][/QUOTE]
They were unable to prove that Bahamas was a brothel? Well, is not surprising, Money is the strongest law in our planet.. unbelievable the level of hypocrisy our society has reached.. Remember the Guy how was force to quit in NY over a scandal for using an escort service?? Nobody really cared what he tried to do good putting an stop to the Wall Street lords, I don't like politicians but I did like that guy, and not because he was a fella monger hehehe
Well, something good about the closing of Bahamas and Milenum was that GPs finally came to their senses and you were able to find a decent 9 for almost half price you spend at Bahamas.. I did score even a couple of them in Augusta and that never happened before ,, Some of them still working in cheaper casas and many are online .. So I was Ok with the house down...
Thanks for the reply Sui Generis and Italy74, very much appreciated!
Speaking of traffic in Sp which is notoriously crazy, if I have a flight say at 2pm leaving from GRU and if I were to say near Avenida Paulista, how long in advance should I leave the hotel on a Saturday morning? Would 2 hours be sufficient?
Thanks again for all for their feedback.
[QUOTE=Funkignitor]Dealdo, i would like to hear more about your driving in SP, How far did you drive and what times.[/QUOTE]
Funk, I drove all over the city..even to both airports..
But I was is Sp many times before.. So i was some familiar with the city..
But one think you have to take in consideration whem making your daily schedule is the prime time for traffic..
8AM to 10:00 is crazy but nobody wakes up that early on vacations.
At lunch time is bad but not to bad to be a metropolis 5PM to 8:00Pm you better have some rest and getting ready for the night If yoy want to see somebody at your place at that time better call her at least 2 hours before so she can make it on time..
During the day are good prives and clinicas in Brooklyn, Moema, Bella Visa Pinheiros, Consolasao etc ,, So you don't need to go too far.
GPs are most of the time base on Jardins and Moema,, very easy to get there during day time..
At night is Ok to drive but try to go with at least one more friend and DO NOT go to the favelas or near by for any reason..
the "casas" are in safe places .. you can go to Connection, Bamboa, Cafe Photo, and even Bacos that is located in Sao Bernardo out side of SP but you take the highway and is OK, no need to go trough the colonias, Sao Bernardo is a safe city comparing to SP.
You can drive by the Augusta before 2 AM no problem.. if you miss the route the program will make a new one for you right away to take you to your destination.. good luck..
One more thing: DO NOT stop at the red lights when is dark and looks empty the streets, especially if you are in an unknown area of the city..
[QUOTE=Sprite13]Thanks for the reply Sui Generis and Italy74, very much appreciated!
Speaking of traffic in Sp which is notoriously crazy, if I have a flight say at 2pm leaving from GRU and if I were to say near Avenida Paulista, how long in advance should I leave the hotel on a Saturday morning? Would 2 hours be sufficient?
Thanks again for all for their feedback.[/QUOTE]
Plenty of time bro,, Saturday morning is a good day for traffic.. half of the offices are close, not a regular work day... I get there in less than an hour, but take your time just to be safe..
On a saturday I would recommend you to leave at least 2,5 hrs in advance, so you are sure to be at airport between 2 and 1,5 hrs before take off time.
[QUOTE=Sprite13]Thanks for the reply Sui Generis and Italy74, very much appreciated!
Speaking of traffic in Sp which is notoriously crazy, if I have a flight say at 2pm leaving from GRU and if I were to say near Avenida Paulista, how long in advance should I leave the hotel on a Saturday morning? Would 2 hours be sufficient?
Thanks again for all for their feedback.[/QUOTE]
Dealdo,
Thanks for all the recent reports giving a lot of useful information about local scene.
I am not sure hiring a car is cheaper than going by taxi, obviously that depends on how long you have to go during each day, but in my opinion is more tiring and stressful, due to traffic congestion, lack of knowledge of city and of alternative routes when blocked in a traffic jam.
Also, when travelling at night, probably safer would be to sit in a taxi with a driver who knows where to go and at which red light he can stop and at which he can't (don't forget that not stopping at red light may bring other extremely dangerous consequences).
Otherwise, I agree with you that taxi are expensive here compared to other Latin America countries. This is richest and here is the reason.
Fortunately, Real recent drop makes costs, not only for taxis, more reasonable.
[QUOTE=Dealdo]
.....
And last tip.. If you guys are brave enough to drive I definitely recommend it.. I saved a lot of money in taxis,, they run with the meter.. but the rate is a total rip off in my opinion.. If you do not know the city they take always the longest way also... Get a GPS and you can go almost to any clinica or prive during the day.. BUt first google the map to know how far is from your hotel and what part of the city is.. DO NOT intent to go to the perimeters when is dark and you will be fine..
[/QUOTE]
had a outstanding experience at the palms massage company (clinica) that i thought would be useful to new mongers, old hats and those that have inquired about making a stop from the international airport.
clínica the palms ~ vila olímpia
rua gomes de carvalho 416 - v.olimpia
tel. 11 3044 0366
[url]http://www.thepalms.com.br/[/url] (site in english and port)
i flew in to sao paulo from belo at 2pm and had a planned lay over until my flight left for the states at 10:30pm. i built in the extra time to gauge this for the future.
i showed the taxi driver the address and they have published flat rates to the different barrios. he showed me the list. he said it was about 40 km. from guarulhos airport to vila olimpia the rate was $103 reals. the ride took 35minutes and i arrived at 2:35.
this is a first class place. when you enter they will ask if you have a reservation. i did not, and they sat me down in the main area and gave me a book with photos of the 20-25 girls working. they then provided me with a sheet containing a list of the girls that was in the same order as the book. the names of the girls that were available were marked. they were all 8-10's. they were all very hot!
the manager spoke english and we talked and he filled me in on the details. really funny guy. $190 for an hour which includes the room and a massage with a handjob. if you want to have sex with the girl, let her know, and it is $200 additional regardless of the girl. same price for all.
i made my selection, after a few minutes they call your name and a girl from the front desk takes you to the room. excellent rooms, clean and first class, all with a shower. i took a shower and within 5 minutes the girl i selected entered the room.
she gives you a massage, and about the time she flips you over she will ask, voce quero comigo? that's your que to say sim, and she says muito bom, and the games begin.
i enjoyed it so much and it was only 4pm when i finished, i sat on the couch in the main area, smoked a few cigarettes, looked at the book, watched the girls walking through the place and talked to the manager. were also several clients arriving that spoke english and we chatted for a bit. the manager showed me the book for their second location. it only had like 10 girls, but all were just as hot. he said the second location was just a "pitstop", but the quality was the same. i asked which was closer to the international airport, and he said the second location. something to think about in the future and check on their website which has a link to both places (you can also view the rooms on the site).
since i had plenty of time, at 5pm i went with a second chick that i had seen walking through and asked the manager her name. chantel, and wow had a great time with her. beautiful chick. i left by 6pm and they had a taxi waiting for me outside. $100 reals for the return trip to the airport. but traffic was definitely worse, taking me 1 hour 15 minutes to return. but got back in plently of time to sufffer the international departure ordeal.
i would give this 5 stars, great experience. i highly recommend it. first class place and really pleasant, especially with the manager and some of the clients speaking english (i speak pretty good portugese, but definitely a plus). good peeps. i have seen posts about "high class" ecorts etc. i would see no reason to pay more when these babes are hot as it gets. i also liked the fact this place is open during the day, no need to hit a boite late at night. perfect for the flight lay over guys. i thought it was well worth the money. hope the info was helpful.
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[QUOTE=Albert Punter]Dealdo,
Thanks for all the recent reports giving a lot of useful information about local scene.
I am not sure hiring a car is cheaper than going by taxi, obviously that depends on how long you have to go during each day, but in my opinion is more tiring and stressful, due to traffic congestion, lack of knowledge of city and of alternative routes when blocked in a traffic jam.
Also, when travelling at night, probably safer would be to sit in a taxi with a driver who knows where to go and at which red light he can stop and at which he can't (don't forget that not stopping at red light may bring other extremely dangerous consequences).
Otherwise, I agree with you that taxi are expensive here compared to other Latin America countries. This is richest and here is the reason.
Fortunately, Real recent drop makes costs, not only for taxis, more reasonable.[/QUOTE]
You may be right Albert.. Most of the time I make life probably too spicy..
Well I should say that I only recommend it to adventurer guys..
I did save time and money big time but I manage to oriented my self well and I'm a very fast learner, For me was nice to take off anytime I wanted, pick girls up at the clubs and take them home or cruising around checking more clubs or a late restaurant before the bed action, At day time I could go to shopping malls sometimes talk to some locals take them to eat drop them home, pick them up at night, You know everything we do and can't do at home ;)
Besides Brasilian girls love to ride on your own car more than go on taxis...
I wish it could be that easy to rent a car in the Eastern European countries..
I think I know Ellen for 4 years now..
I remember she was one of the most perfect bodies I've ever touched.. Is so perfect that I have seen her stolen pics all over the world...
Face is just cute with nothing exceptional, But those boobies and that bunda was an addiction to me,, her pussy is small and tide,, completely waxed pinky and fine.. smells good and if you can turn her on she is very hot,, unfortunately she is not an easy going girl on bed..
Bad point also; she did not wanted to kiss,, eventualy had to do it my way but I'm almost sure French dish is not in the menu
Last time I saw her was not as firm as she used to be..But still good, a 7 1/2 I would say (her body used to be a perfect 10 skin and everything)
back door is not an option either.. So only if you really lust her bad I would recommend her..
[url]http://www.mclass.com.br/scripts/mclass.dll/det?codaco=1282&retorno=0&lin=1[/url]
I dunno...maybee I'm an outsider but I prefer to travel by metro (during the daytime and early evening) when I'm in Sampa. I even have a « bilhete único » in my wallet. I also travel a lot by bus. The thing I hate the most is to take a cab.
I had a bad experience on my first trip with a driver in the taxi stand in front of the hotel Mercure on Capote Valente (near Bomboa). I soon realized that he switched his meter from tarification 1 to tarification 2. In other words he tried to make easy money on my back.
Last November, I had problem of going from Moema at rush hours. I took me 1 1/2 to go from Lavandisaca and Macuco to Santa Cruz metro station. Habitually, it's a 20 minutes bus ride!
[QUOTE=Sui Generis]I dunno...maybee I'm an outsider but I prefer to travel by metro (during the daytime and early evening) when I'm in Sampa. I even have a « bilhete único » in my wallet. I also travel a lot by bus. The thing I hate the most is to take a cab.
I had a bad experience on my first trip with a driver in the taxi stand in front of the hotel Mercure on Capote Valente (near Bomboa). I soon realized that he switched his meter from tarification 1 to tarification 2. In other words he tried to make easy money on my back.
Last November, I had problem of going from Moema at rush hours. I took me 1 1/2 to go from Lavandisaca and Macuco to Santa Cruz metro station. Habitually, it's a 20 minutes bus ride![/QUOTE]
No my friend, you are not.. I did used the "metro" a lot too... is faster and cheaper than anything.. but I like also to drive and not take a bus to the metro station and then make connections and then take another bus for my final destination.. metro stations sometimes are very far from the hotel.. Besides I like to go out very much at night and all those services are not operating .. But you are completely right.. for saving money during the day nothing is cheaper and faster than subway.. I just hate cabs as much as you do...
I am with you Dealdo.
Even if using the Metro is the best way to save money and time I am definitely a "driver".
If I have the chance I prefer to use a car!
Still Metro may be a very useful "helping hand" durin the peak hours.
PS: I will be in Sao Paulo for 3 days soon (from January 28th to january 30th). Are you around there?
Regards,
Italy 1974
[QUOTE=Dealdo]No my friend, you are not.. I did used the "metro" a lot too... is faster and cheaper than anything.. but I like also to drive and not take a bus to the metro station and then make connections and then take another bus for my final destination.. metro stations sometimes are very far from the hotel.. Besides I like to go out very much at night and all those services are not operating .. But you are completely right.. for saving money during the day nothing is cheaper and faster than subway.. I just hate cabs as much as you do...[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dealdo]Plenty of time bro,, Saturday morning is a good day for traffic.. half of the offices are close, not a regular work day... I get there in less than an hour, but take your time just to be safe..[/QUOTE]
You are right, eventhough if one thinks SP is a city of approx (counted 19 mill people) and if "only" 10% is on the road, that makes 1.9 mil people on the road.
I have done other funny calculations...more related to mongering:)
How many people in SP are shagging in a specific but random moment of the day? lol
[QUOTE=Dealdo]Funk, I drove all over the city..even to both airports..
But I was is Sp many times before.. So i was some familiar with the city..
But one think you have to take in consideration whem making your daily schedule is the prime time for traffic..
8AM to 10:00 is crazy but nobody wakes up that early on vacations.
At lunch time is bad but not to bad to be a metropolis 5PM to 8:00Pm you better have some rest and getting ready for the night If yoy want to see somebody at your place at that time better call her at least 2 hours before so she can make it on time..
During the day are good prives and clinicas in Brooklyn, Moema, Bella Visa Pinheiros, Consolasao etc ,, So you don't need to go too far.
GPs are most of the time base on Jardins and Moema,, very easy to get there during day time..
At night is Ok to drive but try to go with at least one more friend and DO NOT go to the favelas or near by for any reason..
the "casas" are in safe places .. you can go to Connection, Bamboa, Cafe Photo, and even Bacos that is located in Sao Bernardo out side of SP but you take the highway and is OK, no need to go trough the colonias, Sao Bernardo is a safe city comparing to SP.
You can drive by the Augusta before 2 AM no problem.. if you miss the route the program will make a new one for you right away to take you to your destination.. good luck..
One more thing: DO NOT stop at the red lights when is dark and looks empty the streets, especially if you are in an unknown area of the city..[/QUOTE]
You forgot "rodizio" that is a traffic ban in certain hours of the day (if I am not wrong 7-10 and 18-20?) depending on the last digiti of the plate of the car. There are lots of traffic police officers checking out at traffic lights.
They wil not stop you bu the fine is sent to the car owner.
I do not know the details as wehen I am there I ignore the ban since the car owner (a very large corporate) will sort it out.
I am even wondering how it works if one rents a car..I mean, I rent a car and can't drive it?? Anyone knows about exceptions?
System has been established about 10 years years ago in order to solve problem of ultra-congested traffic during peak hours.
It is in force monday to friday from 7:00 AM to 10:00 AM and from 5:00 PM to 8:00 PM in the so called Mini Anel Viario area (see attached map).
In theory in peak hours traffic should reduce by 20% as monday plates ending with 1 and 2 are not allowed to circulate, tuesday plates ending with 3 and 4 are not allowed to circulate and so on.
Fine is about R 85,00.
p.s doesn't stress you that guy on helicopter giving infos on radio channel about traffic jams and this or that street blocked ...
Hey guys! Very interesting posts...I like it.
Among the strange things we may find in São Paulo, nothing compares to the Minhocão.
(Here I quote from this article:[url]http://institute.emerson.edu/vma/faculty/john_craig_freeman/imaging_place/about/projects/sao_paulo/index.html[/url]
The project also addresses the Minhocão, a local nickname for the elevated roadway across from the Castelinho. In the nineteenth century, many sightings surfaced from South America of a creature called the minhocão. An article by the French naturalist Auguste de Saint-Hilaire (1779-1853) in the American Journal of Science was the first published reference to this illusive creature of southern Brazil. Its name, he said was derived from the Portuguese word minhoca, meaning earthworm. Sainte-Hilaire recorded several instances, usually at fords of rivers, where livestock were captured by one of these creatures and dragged under the water. The Minhocão is described as a giant burrowing worm-like animal up to 75 feet long, with black scaly skin and two horn-like tentacle structures protruding from it's head, capable of digging enormous subterranean trenches. Although no credible accounts of sightings have been recorded since the late ninetieth century, the Minhocão is commonly blamed for houses and roads collapsing into the earth (sinkhole).
Completed in 1972, the Minhocão roadway runs alternately as tunnels and viaducts as it winds through São Paulo, splitting the city and creating an abject space that attracts one of the largest homeless populations in the world. (end of quotation).
It's strange to see that portion of an urban express way closed on Sunday.
[url]http://www.vitruvius.com.br/minhacidade/mc139/mc139.asp[/url]
Another source of information.
I found this GDP review site while Googling for more info on Ellen Coelhinha.
It has 561 Sao Paulo GDP's reviewed and was last updated on Aug 02, 08.
It has them listed alphabetically and by price, with links to the GDP's website:
[url]http://www.wikigp.com/wiki/P%C3%A1gina_principal[/url]
Suigeneris, as always, very interesting your posts..
proud to have a friend as cultured as you... I like that also.. besides the mongering vice of mine I have done some cultured escapes in the city as well... Sometimes to the Museums,, the new Brasilian plastic arts are as rich as their endless contribution on music and sports... crazy new theater is on vogue and excellent writers as well... unfortunately everything is in Portuguese not translated for foreigners...
Thanks Albert for answering the rodizio system,, Bionic man, I barely go out at that time,, besides is only one day on the week you can't drive at peak hours..
But if I really must... as Italy said,, the metro always comes handy.. even the metro is super crowded at that time is fast..
Italy, sadly I'm not in SaoPa anymore, I'm back home now, my plans are to go back on Spring brake (April) So let me know if you have planed a trip on that month gladly would like to hung around brother..
And Chingon.. thanks for the list of the GPs I think most of the girls online are in that list.... good job.. let me look for an old friend I can't find nowhere =) .. God I miss her so bad !!
Hi all,
I have been doing some research into my upcoming trip to SP, and many of the garotas de programa I want to tap are in the Lido area.
When they say Lido as their local place, do they mean the area around Lido Plaza in the Liberdade area?
I will stay in the Jardins area, would it be asking too much for them to come see me? Would taxi fare be under R25?
And why is Lido such a hella popular place for the gp’s to live nowadays?
Been a few years since I was there!!!
Obrigado
G
Chingon and all:
Another alternative to gpguia is [url]http://www.forumsd.com. Br/phpBB/[/url]
It is very current, including reports from today as well as promotions from GP's themselves.
I like it better than WikiGP because it is current. But FSD does not have history like gpguia! And WikiGp has very little reviews, the most important thing IMO. Ratings count.
Gpguia is the best, it has both.
Just realizing from gpguia that some BR250 GP's in 2008 are now asking BR300.
Yes, use a proxy server as has been suggested in this forum and elsewhere to access gpguia if you cannot access it normally.
G
Guys, firstly many tks for the great reports on this thread. I am visiting Sao Paulo the end of february for 3 nights and will be working my way through the reports....
I will have some time for a little action, I am used to the scene in Buenos Aires but it will be my first time in Sao Paulo. I have been recommended Cafe Photo (obn) have i been given good info or are there better places?
I will be travelling to SP from Flrorianopolis where I will be spending a few days with a chick. She leaves a day before me, would anyone recommend staying a night in Florianopolis on my own or should I go straight to SP?
Your help is much appreciated.
Guerrero
Yes, I believe you are right.
This motel is very popular among GDP's and you can see it mentioned on many reports in local forums.
This is website you can refer to [url]www.hotellidoplaza.com.br[/url]
I don't know where you will be located in Jardins area, but it is not too far. In case of no traffic at night, maybe 5-10 minutes.
Anyhow, in the hotel website there is a link to g-maps to give you right directions and distance.
As many of the GDP's reside in the Jardins area this is probably one of the reason they use Lido. Also, area is central and is easily, so to speak for such a traffic congested metropolis, accessible from all areas.
In case the girls you want to spend time with live in that area you may also go to their place. You will save motel money and some taxi money.
Maybe they live just around the corner where you live.
[QUOTE=Geriatno]Hi all,
I have been doing some research into my upcoming trip to SP, and many of the garotas de programa I want to tap are in the Lido area.
When they say Lido as their local place, do they mean the area around Lido Plaza in the Liberdade area?
I will stay in the Jardins area, would it be asking too much for them to come see me? Would taxi fare be under R25?
And why is Lido such a hella popular place for the gp’s to live nowadays?
Been a few years since I was there!!!
Obrigado
G[/QUOTE]
This is Cafe Photo [url]www.cafephoto.com.br[/url]
It is un upscale club/bar where you can go and meet some very good looking girls. However, just to get in you pay a fee (sorry, I am not updated how much is) then you will pay good money for the girl to bring her home.
So, yes it is an excellent place in case you are not on a budget.
Otherwise, what you look for ?
Club, escort, massage places ?
[QUOTE=Guerrero]
.....
I will have some time for a little action, I am used to the scene in Buenos Aires but it will be my first time in Sao Paulo. I have been recommended Cafe Photo (obn) have i been given good info or are there better places?
.....
[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Guerrero]Guys, firstly many tks for the great reports on this thread. I am visiting Sao Paulo the end of february for 3 nights and will be working my way through the reports....
I will have some time for a little action, I am used to the scene in Buenos Aires but it will be my first time in Sao Paulo. I have been recommended Cafe Photo (obn) have i been given good info or are there better places?
I will be travelling to SP from Flrorianopolis where I will be spending a few days with a chick. She leaves a day before me, would anyone recommend staying a night in Florianopolis on my own or should I go straight to SP?
Your help is much appreciated.
Guerrero[/QUOTE]
Guerrero, As Albert told you; Lido is a motel that many GPs use as "in call" I haven't used it ever because as you, most of the time I stay in Jardins, and 70% of the independents have a place there. The Lido girls I cal them to come over my place.. Lido is used for newbies who don't have a apt or flat yet (Something similar to "La Roustique" in Baires).. most of them charge less that the other garotas .. is cheaper but not, you have to pay your taxi and the room too, most of the time...
If you stay in Jardins I recommend you to go see the girls that have a flat in the area,, as Albert say you will be surprised how many you can visit just walking a couple blocks.. even the girls that work in the Lido can go to your place and you save the room fee,, and I bet your place will be better than the motel room..
Cafe Photo in my poor opinion is the best place in town because you can find many 8s 9s and sometimes a 10 the other places have some 8s and sometimes 9s but is lower the quantity.. prices are real high for being Brasil kind of like Black in BAs but quality is way better...
You may go to Bamboa.. cheaper and full of cute chicks,
The other casas are in my last reports I'm sure you will find at least 1 that will fulfill your desires
About Floripa.. well, I do not know if is cheaper or better than SP for escort action.. I did go ones but I was with a girl too and more friends So I couldn't go to the casas.. I heard there are some places very expensive where rich and unlucky people get riped off... Quality is not as good as Cafe Photo but there are some other places I guess the name is Sexy club something like that, is more for locals and prices are OK.. Floripa has a bunch of blond and "brancas" but I do not know how is in the "boliches" like you say...
If you just have 3 days You may consider to go to Porto Alegre that is only 5 hours driving from Floripa.. Quality is superb and prices are way better than SP.. send a PM if you need info about this town ..
Albert / Dealdo,
Many tks for you comments they are very much appreciated. Will be in SP for 4 nights and will be looking for Clubs, Escorts and Massage places. Sounds like I need to go to Cafe Photo at least once but will try and check out Bamboa as well.
I was looking at some of the girls on [url]www.mclass.com.br[/url] who look pretty fantastic. Sorry for more questions. are these girls expensive? Do you recommend any other escort websites?
Guerrero
Guerrero the girls from Mclass charge from 250 to 300 average most of them, be careful with the exaggerated PhotoShop they use .
Other sites I kind of trust only because they don't use fake pictures are
[url]http://www.chantily.com.br/saopaulo/acompanhantes.htm[/url]
[url]http://www.clubmodel.com.br/acompanhantes.php[/url]
[url]http://www.ellass.com.br/principal.asp[/url]
[url]http://www.malicia.com.br/free/home.php?tipo=garotas[/url]
Clinicas and prives here is a small list:
[url]http://www.malicia.com.br/free/acompanhantes/freeclinics/clinics-free.htm[/url]
I recommend to check on GPguia for the best updated info about the garota you select or the clinica you want to go..
But two you need to go see and I haven't post anything about her, (Only because there is too much data about her.. is not a secret in SP) is Nanda Gaucha [url]http://www.nandagaucha.com.br/[/url] . I will tel you there are many good looking girls but most of them are not too good with the clients.. she is cute and good performer..
Also go see Michelly [url]http://www.michellycatarinense.com/[/url] she is pretty no more than that but her body is great and good on bed.. there are plenty good on bed but of course they are not so cute being honest.. that is a sad truth on this business...
Good luck warrior..
In case you look for an escort, just check these websites:
[url]www.malicia.com.br[/url]
[url]www.contatos.com.br[/url]
[url]www.mclass.com.br[/url]
[url]www.abusado.com.br[/url]
[url]www.querogata.com.br/home.php[/url]
[url]www.lustfuls.com/[/url]
[url]www.ellass.com.br/[/url]
[url]www.chantily.com.br/saopaulo/acompanhantes.htm[/url]
[url]www.erosguide.com.br/[/url]
[url]www.pimp.com.br/[/url]
[url]www.clubmodel.com.br[/url]
[url]www.acompanhantesbrasil.com.br[/url]
Probably there are many more. Some open and close quickly.
Some of above listed are on line about 10 years already.
As Dealdo said, most of them use HEAVY photoshop, like mclass, so be prepared to some disappointment.
Infos about GDP's and test drives may be found on following local websites:
[url]www.gpguia.net[/url] (the best one)
[url]www.forumsd.com.br[/url] (a real good one)
[url]www.wikigp.com[/url] (some stats about GDP's)
[url]www.forum.portaldasacompanhantes.com.br[/url] (same look as gpguia but much less reports)
[url]www.gpsportclub.com[/url] (new website)
[url]www.gpbr.net/forum/[/url] (new website)
obviously some understanding of Portuguese is needed.
Lately, when I want to choose a girl, I browse into the local forums and check the test drives. When track of record is excellent, I go to the websites to look for the pics. I found this system effective to get good service (which is priority to me) and good looking girl.
Actually correct name is Bomboa (second letter is an o).
This is website [url]http://www.bomboa.com.br/home.htm[/url].
Quick visit, last week, to São Paulo. Didn't spend much time there because I was on my way to Porto Alegre.
I was fortunate enough to meet Alinne Brandão from Salavador de Bahia. She was on my whishlist. As Alinne was spending a couple of days in Sampa, I set up a session with her.
I missed her on my last trip, November 2008 while she was in Sampa for Maestro Alex's big Halloween party.
I called her January 15h and I went to her flat which was located on Alameda Campinas, in Jardim. The price of the presentinho was $250 for completa. I paid R$200 because I didn't want anal.
[url]http://www.alinnebrandao.com/[/url]
One of the best body I have ever seen. Beautiful boobs, nice complexion (she's a real morena!) and a lovely pussy.
She's not tall at all: 1m55.
Black hair to the shoulders.
Beautiful shapely ass.
Everything was on the menu (except anal). Next time, when she will visit Sampa again, I'd like to take her to a swing club.
Albert / Dealdo,
Tks again for your posts and guidance.
Will let you know how I get on next month!
Guerrero
You are more than welcome.
As you mentioned clubs and massage places, in first case, other than Cafe Photo and Bomboa, you may want to make some search for BOATE, portuguese (or brazilian, we should say) for club, and CLINICA which means massage place.
Enjoy
[QUOTE=Guerrero]Albert / Dealdo,
Tks again for your posts and guidance.
Will let you know how I get on next month!
Guerrero[/QUOTE]
Okay I am working out my final budget for my trip.
This includes a hop over to Curitiba for the WTCC Race #1!
Believe it or not, it was actually cheaper to do BOTH!
So with my flight(s) coming in well under $1000US, that would leave roughly $700US for "Fun". Is this enough money to have "fun" in both locations? I have a connection in Curitiba so that's covered mostly.
The plan was to stay in a hostel so no "outcalls".
Any suggestions? I wanted to spread this $700 over 3.5 days in Sampa and roughly 2 days in Curitiba.
I was figuring on Clinicas during the mid-day, Incall either early evening or later in the evening with some regular "disco/clubbing" but I doubt it will be all that good mid-week as I'll leave for Curitiba the following Friday afternoon and then make my way to the track sometime Saturday morning for qualifying.
So 3 days, 2 different women, maybe 3 per day is it reasons to keep it around $150US per day and what would I get for that kind of money?
Thanks
[QUOTE=DJ FourMoney]Okay I am working out my final budget for my trip.
This includes a hop over to Curitiba for the WTCC Race #1!
Believe it or not, it was actually cheaper to do BOTH!
So with my flight(s) coming in well under $1000US, that would leave roughly $700US for "Fun". Is this enough money to have "fun" in both locations? I have a connection in Curitiba so that's covered mostly.
The plan was to stay in a hostel so no "outcalls".
Any suggestions? I wanted to spread this $700 over 3.5 days in Sampa and roughly 2 days in Curitiba.
I was figuring on Clinicas during the mid-day, Incall either early evening or later in the evening with some regular "disco/clubbing" but I doubt it will be all that good mid-week as I'll leave for Curitiba the following Friday afternoon and then make my way to the track sometime Saturday morning for qualifying.
So 3 days, 2 different women, maybe 3 per day is it reasons to keep it around $150US per day and what would I get for that kind of money?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
a visit to a clinica in SP would cost you between 250/300 BR$ incl FS with the girl, an hour/hour and half visiting a GdP more or less same price.
Make the math...
Looks to me a bit tight budget for 5.5 days of intense action.
[QUOTE=Bionicman]a visit to a clinica in SP would cost you between 250/300 BR$ incl FS with the girl.[/QUOTE]
Not exactly
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=816131&postcount=1845[/url]
Hi All,
Will be going to Sao Paulo for 8 days leaving on Feb 13. Could somebody please give me two great Clinicas and two great clubs. For the clubs I was looking more at the non professionals-locals.
I know Love story is a must.
Thanks,
Great Site
[QUOTE=El Greco]Not exactly
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=816131&postcount=1845[/url][/QUOTE]
Thanks El Greco for the hint...we are here to learn.
maybe just a different establishment (not that your sucks, from what I read!) and redway could be a destination later this year when I am in SP
I have researched before, 300BR is $130US currently. I thought it was a bit less. I'll have to track down all the older post but I was firmly under the idea that $170 a day was possible for services twice a day.
I'm positive there bargains abound, I'll just keep looking.
Here is a little list of Samba schools if you are going to be in SP.
Acadêmicos do Tucuruvi
R$ 5. Av. Mazzei, 722 - Tucuruvi - Tel: 2204-7342.
Águia de Ouro
R$ 5. Av. Francisco Matarazzo, 1986 - Pompeia - Tel: 3872-8262.
Leandro de Itaquera
R$ 5. Rua Padre Viegas de Menezes, 66 - Itaquera.
Mocidade Alegre
R$ 15. Av. Casa Verde 3,498 - Bairro do Limão - Tel: 3857-7525.
Nenê de Vila Matilde
R$ 10. Rua Júlio Rinaldi, 01 - Vila Salete/SP - Tel: 2667-2358.
Rosas de Ouro
R$ 20, Tel: 3931-4555.
Tom Maior
R$ 10. Rua José Gomes Falcão, 215 - Barra Funda - Tel: 3494-9040.
Unidos de Vila Maria
R$ 10. Rua Cabo J. Monteiro da Rocha, 448 - Jd. Japão - Tel: 2981-3154.
X-9 Paulistana
R$ 10. Av. Luis Dumont Villares, 324 - Parada Inglesa - Tel: 2977-2146/ 2975-3893
[QUOTE=DJ FourMoney]I have researched before, 300BR is $130US currently. I thought it was a bit less. I'll have to track down all the older post but I was firmly under the idea that $170 a day was possible for services twice a day.
I'm positive there bargains abound, I'll just keep looking.[/QUOTE]US$ 170 is apx. R$ 390, and for that kind of money you have a lot of options in SP. You could for example squeeze in 2 prive-visits before lunch, 1 clinica after lunch and one or two cheap clubs after dinner, and still have plenty of money for drinks and extras.
It depends on your tastes. Obviously, if you prefer to go to the more expensive night clubs you will not last very long on R$ 390 per day. But seeing as there are hundreds of the mentioned prives (private houses) where you can get 30 mins from as little as R$ 20 (normal price point is around R$ 40), and 60 mins from R$ 30 to R$ 80, you could indeed collect quite a few experiences on your budget.
Keep in mind though, that many of these prives are quite simple places, so if you scare easily or demand the highest comfort, forget about it. Many of them however are reasonably clean, and you can find some really nice talent.
The clinicas are a step up on the price scale, but not necessarily on the experience. Price points apx. R$80 and upwards per 60 mins.
Don't forget the cheaper clubs, where programmas start at around R$ 40. Watch out for the girl's drinks, though, and resist buying too many of them even if they ask for it.
[QUOTE=Rod97]US$ 170 is apx. R$ 390, and for that kind of money you have a lot of options in SP. You could for example squeeze in 2 prive-visits before lunch, 1 clinica after lunch and one or two cheap clubs after dinner, and still have plenty of money for drinks and extras.
It depends on your tastes. Obviously, if you prefer to go to the more expensive night clubs you will not last very long on R$ 390 per day. But seeing as there are hundreds of the mentioned prives (private houses) where you can get 30 mins from as little as R$ 20 (normal price point is around R$ 40), and 60 mins from R$ 30 to R$ 80, you could indeed collect quite a few experiences on your budget.
Keep in mind though, that many of these prives are quite simple places, so if you scare easily or demand the highest comfort, forget about it. Many of them however are reasonably clean, and you can find some really nice talent.
The clinicas are a step up on the price scale, but not necessarily on the experience. Price points apx. R$80 and upwards per 60 mins.
Don't forget the cheaper clubs, where programmas start at around R$ 40. Watch out for the girl's drinks, though, and resist buying too many of them even if they ask for it.[/QUOTE]
Thanks man I remember the cheaper options and will more than likely go that direction.
Complete plans TBA
Does anyone know what happened to Gpguia? It seems to be down...
[QUOTE=Smokers Rule]Does anyone know what happened to Gpguia? It seems to be down...[/QUOTE] Send me a PM and I'll give you the secret handshake ;)
BTW - your PM mailbox is full.
[QUOTE=Smokers Rule]Does anyone know what happened to Gpguia? It seems to be down...[/QUOTE] Send me a PM and I'll give you the secret handshake ;)
BTW - your PM mailbox is full.
Has anyone been to clubs like HELP in Sao Paulo?
[QUOTE=Madd Love]Has anyone been to clubs like HELP in Sao Paulo?[/QUOTE]
Love Story, "A Casa de todas as Casas".
Imagine Help WITH good music, WITH wild atmosphere, WITH gorgeous white-skinned meninas and WITHOUT gringos and hardened swarthy faveladas. It's located in Centro, Rua Araujo (corner with Ipiranga), at walking distance from Rua N.Pestana strip bars. No problems to walk to LS from Kilt or Vargao at night, even late.
It's an after hours where many GdP go to party after their clubs closure. It's a total morgue till 2/3 am, and then it rocks untill 6/7 am, and later on weekends.
If you want a table in the VIP area facing the dance floor (pure bliss, highly recommended and highly rewarding) ask at the door for Raoul, the gerente -manager-, and negociate with him a bottle for 300/320 reals. I have his cell phone number and you can call him from me if you want to make a reservation. Drop me a PM if needed.
Love Story is a great place. The best after-hours club on the planet IMO. Beware though, not all girls there are GdP, and not all GdP go there to pick-up a guy.It's above all a party place. Nonetheless with some game, you can pick-up a Cafe Photo, Conniff, Bomboa or Cafe Gauguin stunner for 150 or 200 RS (or for free if you mesh well with her), and cuddle her in the coziness of your room till mid-afternoon. That's my daily routine in Sao Paulo. :)
[QUOTE=Smokers Rule]Does anyone know what happened to Gpguia? It seems to be down...[/QUOTE]
I tried through a proxy...but denied access
Looks it is limited to brasilian IP's?
[QUOTE=Prosal]Love Story, "A Casa de todas as Casas".
Imagine Help WITH good music, WITH wild atmosphere, WITH gorgeous white-skinned meninas and WITHOUT gringos and hardened swarthy faveladas. It's located in Centro, Rua Araujo (corner with Ipiranga), at walking distance from Rua N.Pestana strip bars. No problems to walk to LS from Kilt or Vargao at night, even late.
It's an after hours where many GdP go to party after their clubs closure. It's a total morgue till 2/3 am, and then it rocks untill 6/7 am, and later on weekends.
If you want a table in the VIP area facing the dance floor (pure bliss, highly recommended and highly rewarding) ask at the door for Raoul, the gerente -manager- and negociate with him a bottle for 300/320 reals. I have his cell phone number and you can call him from me if you want to make a reservation. Drop me a PM if needed.
Love Story is a great place. The best after-hours club on the planet IMO. Beware though, not all girls there are GdP, and not all GdP go there to pick-up a guy.It's above all a party place. Nonetheless with some game, you can pick-up a Cafe Photo, Conniff, Bomboa or Cafe Gauguin stunner for 150 or 200 RS (or for free if you mesh well with her), and cuddle her in the coziness of your room till mid-afternoon. That's my daily routine in Sao Paulo. :)[/QUOTE]
Damn - you are making a convincing case for a return trip to Sampa. :)
[QUOTE=Prosal]Love Story, "A Casa de todas as Casas".
Imagine Help WITH good music, WITH wild atmosphere, WITH gorgeous white-skinned meninas and WITHOUT gringos and hardened swarthy faveladas. It's located in Centro, Rua Araujo (corner with Ipiranga), at walking distance from Rua N.Pestana strip bars. No problems to walk to LS from Kilt or Vargao at night, even late.
It's an after hours where many GdP go to party after their clubs closure. It's a total morgue till 2/3 am, and then it rocks untill 6/7 am, and later on weekends.
If you want a table in the VIP area facing the dance floor (pure bliss, highly recommended and highly rewarding) ask at the door for Raoul, the gerente -manager- and negociate with him a bottle for 300/320 reals. I have his cell phone number and you can call him from me if you want to make a reservation. Drop me a PM if needed.
Love Story is a great place. The best after-hours club on the planet IMO. Beware though, not all girls there are GdP, and not all GdP go there to pick-up a guy.It's above all a party place. Nonetheless with some game, you can pick-up a Cafe Photo, Conniff, Bomboa or Cafe Gauguin stunner for 150 or 200 RS (or for free if you mesh well with her), and cuddle her in the coziness of your room till mid-afternoon. That's my daily routine in Sao Paulo. :)[/QUOTE]
Very Nice...... a person with a plan! Will have to give it a go when I head out to SP.
[QUOTE=Prosal]Love Story, "A Casa de todas as Casas".
Imagine Help WITH good music, WITH wild atmosphere, WITH gorgeous white-skinned meninas and WITHOUT gringos and hardened swarthy faveladas. It's located in Centro, Rua Araujo (corner with Ipiranga), at walking distance from Rua N.Pestana strip bars. No problems to walk to LS from Kilt or Vargao at night, even late.
It's an after hours where many GdP go to party after their clubs closure. It's a total morgue till 2/3 am, and then it rocks untill 6/7 am, and later on weekends.
If you want a table in the VIP area facing the dance floor (pure bliss, highly recommended and highly rewarding) ask at the door for Raoul, the gerente -manager-, and negociate with him a bottle for 300/320 reals. I have his cell phone number and you can call him from me if you want to make a reservation. Drop me a PM if needed.
Love Story is a great place. The best after-hours club on the planet IMO. Beware though, not all girls there are GdP, and not all GdP go there to pick-up a guy.It's above all a party place. Nonetheless with some game, you can pick-up a Cafe Photo, Conniff, Bomboa or Cafe Gauguin stunner for 150 or 200 RS (or for free if you mesh well with her), and cuddle her in the coziness of your room till mid-afternoon. That's my daily routine in Sao Paulo. :)[/QUOTE]
Man, I wish I was a late night guy, but I'm not.
I went out there one night to Love Story, had to check it out.
Was pretty cool, especially if you like that RAVE type scene.
Of course I'm a wimp and was a bit tired, but enjoyed checking it out.
Take care amigos!
Love Story is a very interesting place. I agree with the previous poster. This is where the GDP's go to hang out for fun after working. If they can make an extra buck, fine. If not, they will drink and dance and relax.
One night my girl and I went to a GLS club (primarily lesbians and travestis) on Consolacao. We ended up hooking up with 2 other girls, and as things were winding down in the club, we all decided to go to LS. So, in I go, with three gorgeous girls in tow. We got a couch in the VIP area, and I got hit on all night by any girl who walked by. I guess she felt if I could attract three, I must be something special. My girl kept jacking me off while no one was looking.
Be sure to tip your waiter REALLY well, and you will be taken care of. The club is so crowded, you must walk holding hands or you WILL lose your date, and maybe never find her again. Going to the john is an experience as well.
This is a good place for experienced mongers to visit at least once.
[QUOTE=Mateodasilva]as things were winding down in the club, we all decided to go to LS.[/QUOTE]
Another popular after-hours is Lov.e Club & Lounge, in Itaim Bibi neighborhood.
It's actually the trendiest late-night club in Sao Paulo. Quite a crazy place, jam-packed on weekends till 9am or so, to experience at least once.
Nonetheless I personally much prefer Love Story, which is quite simply the greatest after-hours on the planet in the history of mankind, bar none.
Thanks for the info fellas. I will actually do Sao Paulo my next trip. I already book my trip to Rio last month. I did Sao Paulo once before but never went to any of the clubs. I will definitely try it next time around.
I went to Bomboa a couple of Friday's ago. The pricing is 180R entrance fee which can be used as consumption for yourself and garotas. 100R is still the charge for a room in the hotel next to the club. They had a free dinner buffet, so all consumption can be used for drinks. The club was quiet at 6 PM when I arrived, but pretty much full when exited around 9 PM.
As I settled into my seat at the bar, a garota approached me and said that she recognized me from Rio. It turns out that I took her out of La Cicciolina on my second trip to Rio almost 5 years ago. She was just starting out in the business at the time. I also did a follow up trip to the racetrack in Rio with her on the same trip that she reminded me of. She has put on some weight and had a boob job in recent years. I asked her how much she gets for a program now and she said 300 - 400R. I told her that I don't pay that kind of money and I used to pay her 150R. She said that was 5 years ago (true). She indicated that she still lives in Rio and was only working in Sao Paulo for a month. She claims she commands that kind of money in Rio now as an escort. I had no interest in her and didn't even try to neg.
I talked to a few other garotas to check prices and they were all asking for 300R. I finally struck up an hour long conversation with a Paulista who lived in Rio for 2 years and worked in 2 termas. Alarm bells went off in my head, knowing that a good session was pretty much guaranteed. I had a couple of beers and pumped 3 or 4 drinks of my 180R comsumption into her. I asked her how much she wanted for a program and she indicated the standard 300R. I offered 200R and she took it right away. I was not disappointed in the hotel room. She put on a terma style performance for the full hour. She also readily gave me her telephone number for follow-up sessions outside the club.
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Still available? Where do I find her?
Hi Bondo500
Julia Gualter is still available. Maybee you had problems to locate her because she works under different names:
JULIA GUALTER, BARBARA GUALTER and ANA CAROLINA.
Here's a picture of her (under the name Ana Carolina) I hope that's the good one because there,s another Ana Carolina. The other one is a tall blonde (1m 77).
[url]http://www.executivoclub.com/html/modelos_perfil.php?id_modelo=1609[/url]
Her phone numbers are: (11) 7216-8259
(11) 9652-3570
She lives near the Ibirapuera Shopping in Moema.
Presentinho is R$200
Julia Gualter doesn't work anymore, unfortunately. I found out myself. The link that you posted is of a different girl. I phoned JG in November 2008 and she confirmed it to me. Her pictures and contact info are not available in the Web, of course. Maybe that's the reason our fellow monger was so confused.
[QUOTE=Sui Generis]Hi Bondo500
Julia Gualter is still available. Maybee you had problems to locate her because she works under different names:
JULIA GUALTER, BARBARA GUALTER and ANA CAROLINA.
Here's a picture of her (under the name Ana Carolina) I hope that's the good one because there,s another Ana Carolina. The other one is a tall blonde (1m 77).
[url]http://www.executivoclub.com/html/modelos_perfil.php?id_modelo=1609[/url]
Her phone numbers are: (11) 7216-8259
(11) 9652-3570
She lives near the Ibirapuera Shopping in Moema.
Presentinho is R$200[/QUOTE]
Can anyone who stayed at one of the Mercure's hotels in Sao Paulo tell me if they are girl friendly? Any guest fee involved if I was to bring a girl up to my room? I'm making a trip to Sao Paulo for a week and thinking about staying at either Mercure Apt Pamplona or the one on Al. Itú.
Thanks in advance!
Is Clinica Kin still open?
I will be staying at the Hilton next week, It was a 20 min walk.
Are there any other Clinicas in the area?
[QUOTE=Johntodd]Is Clinica Kin still open?
I will be staying at the Hilton next week, It was a 20 min walk.
Are there any other Clinicas in the area?[/QUOTE]
"Estamos em manutenção para melhor atendê-los.
Para obter maiores informações nos contate pelos telefones (011)5181-9026 ou (011)5182-9528.
Aguardamos sua visita!"
that's what their website says. call and find out
bb5
[QUOTE=Johntodd]Is Clinica Kin still open?
I will be staying at the Hilton next week, It was a 20 min walk.
Are there any other Clinicas in the area?[/QUOTE]Yes it's open, 130R an hour. I will be there next week too but they might be closed a day or more because it's Carnival
[QUOTE=Hobbying]Yes it's open, 130R an hour. I will be there next week too but they might be closed a day or more because it's Carnival[/QUOTE]
There's an upcoming raise in March: it''ll be R$150 for an hour. I don't have any indication yet for the four hands special.
Well, just too bad....
I've learned yesterday that Charme's privê (Praça de Arvore) is closed. The paulista scene is changing a lot. I know that there are others privês in that hood. I hope that the quality of the girls is the same as the one we could find at Charme's privê.
Two of my favorite playgrounds are closed : PHQI and Charme's. What's going on!!!!!!
Abs
DOes anyone know if the holiday inn in sao paolo is easy going on guest, or any suggestions. dont mind the cost just dont want to be hassled about visitors?
Dreamcarnarvon -
I have stayed at a number of Mercure Hotels in Sao Paulo over the past few years. They all would allow guests, but some had charges for guests. Here are my experiences by hotel.
Saint Germain - no charge
Paulista - 20R charge
Excellence - no charge
Stella Vega - no charge
St. Lawrence - no charge
Central Towers - 30R charge
[QUOTE=Buffer]Dreamcarnarvon -
I have stayed at a number of Mercure Hotels in Sao Paulo over the past few years. They all would allow guests, but some had charges for guests. Here are my experiences by hotel.
Saint Germain - no charge
Paulista - 20R charge
Excellence - no charge
Stella Vega - no charge
St. Lawrence - no charge
Central Towers - 30R charge[/QUOTE]
I can confirm this for the following Mercure hotels
Excellence
St. Lawrence
Le Corbusier
If you want some "privacy" there's always a way to bypass the front desk.
One of my guest (Elektra) had her car. She parked it in the inside garage and took the elevator up to my room without registering at the front desk. As I know personally Leticia Lima (at that time she was sharing her flat with another girl) I greeted her in the hall of the hotel. I didn't registered her at the front desk.
At the Excellence, I received Maya (now Eva Poison). She had to register at the front desk. They called me in order to confirm that I was waiting a guest and she was escorted by a groom to my room. No charge.
I am looking for some info, I have been to Rio 4 times, and I will be going to Rio for a month during April. I am thinking about going to São Paulo for four or five days. I have been reading through this thread but I am still not sure which section of the city to stay and I could not find a list of girl friendly hotels. From the reading that I have done it seems like the part of the city where the mongering action is is the Jardins area and near Av Paulista? Are there any nice girl friendly hotels in the area in the R150-R250 price range?
One of the places that I would like to go to is Eu & elas if they are still open. I am still making a list if clubs to go to.
Recommend you bring them via the front desk, it guarantees your safety and your property.
Pay the $20R its a cheap price for security.
There appears to be a lot of more affordable hotels on Rua Augusta going into the downtown that you can check out if price is an issue.
[QUOTE=Pussyhunter099]I am looking for some info, I have been to Rio 4 times, and I will be going to Rio for a month during April. I am thinking about going to São Paulo for four or five days. I have been reading through this thread but I am still not sure which section of the city to stay and I could not find a list of girl friendly hotels. From the reading that I have done it seems like the part of the city where the mongering action is is the Jardins area and near Av Paulista? Are there any nice girl friendly hotels in the area in the R150-R250 price range?
One of the places that I would like to go to is Eu & elas if they are still open. I am still making a list if clubs to go to.[/QUOTE]
Two (or even three) sections of the city are safe: Jardins, Pinheiros, Moema.
For personal reason, I prefer Moema. In my book, it's like a replica of Greenwich Village in New York. Very safe district. Safe and quiet all nightHotels and flats in the price rabge you're looking for. A lot of girls lives there. Restaurants, clinicas, privês abound.
Jardins is the popular section among our fellow hobbyists. Very urban, still noisy at night. A lot of girls live there.
Pinheiros would be my middle choice, between Moema and Jardins. Pinheiros is the Soho of São Paulo.
For a first visit, Jardins is all right.
I agree 100% with Sui Generis analysis about areas in Sao Paulo.
As a matter of fact, I have always stayed in Jardins or Moema.
All flats or hotels I stayed accepted visitors.
In some cases they register them, in some they don't.
In no cases I have been charged with an extra.
As far as I know, that policy applies to all flats/hotels in SP.
I have learned from reliable sources that Julia is no longer in business.
Does anyone know the current status/quality at The Palms and Francebel?
GK
[QUOTE=Genghis Khan]Does anyone know the current status/quality at The Palms and Francebel?
GK[/QUOTE]I was at Palms last month, the quality looks very good from the book of photos but they don't come greet you like other clnicas. 190R for clinic for 1 hour, which 1/2 hour is shower/massage, 200R for girl. Total 390R which I thought was expensive for 1/2 hour of action. Very nice facility though. Never been to Fracebel.
Anyone know of UTR top notch places, please PM me.
[QUOTE=Genghis Khan]Does anyone know the current status/quality at The Palms and Francebel?
GK[/QUOTE]
I think Francebel went out of business. I couldn't find it last August when I was in Sao Paulo. Went to a place near Conghonas a few hours before a flight, and was impressed at the ease of the massage business in Sao Paulo.
[QUOTE=Forest]I think Francebel went out of business. I couldn't find it last August when I was in Sao Paulo. Went to a place near Conghonas a few hours before a flight, and was impressed at the ease of the massage business in Sao Paulo.[/QUOTE]
Sorry, but you are wrong on Francebel...fully opened when I was there in late october, and also operating in november when a friend was there again.
It is not far from Congonhas indeed.
I know Sunday's a bad day for fun but will wany of these be open:
Charm´s Privê
Redway
Clinica KiN
Thanks
Unfortunately, Cliníca Charme's is closed since January
As far as I know, Redway and Kin are closed Sunday.
The following privê is open Sunday:
Privê Clube das Rosas
732 Rua das Rosas, - Praça da Árvore
(Near Rua Luís Goes)
Phones: (11) 5583-3287 / 2577-0181
5583-3287 2577-0181
Went there once. Didn't like it. The garota was good looking but the service was not liberal (no DFK, covered BJ). The room was clean however.
Sunday is not really the best day to party in São Paulo. The best alternative is to call a freebie. You should be aware that you will have to be patient because sometimes is difficult to find a garota that works on Sunday.
Here's the Web site of the clinica:
[url]http://www.francebel.com.br/[/url]
We can have the impression that it is closed because the GP Guia doesn't list anymore this clinica and all the former reports are archived. There was a kind of quarrel between these two.
[url]http://www.soelas.com.br[/url]
[url]www.sabordepecado.com[/url]
[QUOTE=Pluto2][url]http://www.soelas.com.br[/url]
[url]www.sabordepecado.com[/url][/QUOTE]
Unfortunately these sites are unreliable. They're both bait'n switch.
Hey, any of you guys been to the beaches outside SP?
Both praia Grande or the one's to the north.
Was wondering about bus service and hotels, etc.
Any info would be cool :)
Obrigado ...
Any other suggestions for Sunday. I unfortunately do not speak portuguese!
I don't know if this is right thread to post this but as I am in SP I post it here.
I have recently got my new european credit card with the electronic chip and since then I am unable to withdraw money here.
Is someone else experiencing same problem ?
BTW credit card works well when paying for restaurant or other services.
However, they have to use magnetic band not chip.
Thanks for giving any kind of clues (otherwise I am unable to withdraw money to pay girls).
Maybe that is not bad at all as I am more motivated, let's say forced, to work the freebie side.
Visited Clinica Kin three times in the past two days, they parade about 12 ladies, my first visit was Hanna, she is great as always, 32 yrs old 36C24 36, green eyes, brown hair. It was a non stop hour, fee 150 real.
Next lady Sarah, petite, blond, very pretty, she was the most passionate, everything was on the menu.
Thirs visit was I thinl Pamala, 25 yrs old, braided blond hair. Again a non stop hour, she speaks no English, so she was very agressive. 36C 24 34, perfect tits, I thought they were fake, but they were not.
Went to the place across the street, they had 4 ladies, but there was no comparison, Kin was excellent. Note the place across the street is only 130 for an hour, but Kin is much better.
[QUOTE=Albert Punter]I don't know if this is right thread to post this but as I am in SP I post it here.
I have recently got my new european credit card with the electronic chip and since then I am unable to withdraw money here.
Is someone else experiencing same problem ?
BTW credit card works well when paying for restaurant or other services.
However, they have to use magnetic band not chip.
Thanks for giving any kind of clues (otherwise I am unable to withdraw money to pay girls).[/QUOTE]I have had zero problems on multiple trips over the past two years with either a UK HSBC debit card or a Euro denominated credit card with both having chips in them. I usually stick to Bradesco or HSBC for my withdrawals.
Ironically the only times I've had an issue is with some of the remote handheld teminals in restaurants.
I was wondering if there is any translators, portuguese to english, available in sao paulo who could help me there. Specifically with setting up appointments with the providers. So basically who can do a conference call and help with the translation.
Thanks
Is there any translator available in Sao Paulo area.
[QUOTE=Sam Fun]Translation services needed [/QUOTE]Could work out a bit pricier than usual given I assume you'll want it translated then repeated in a slightly more concise form.
Thats true. But to set up an appointment it should not take more than 5 mins. So it should be a reasonable amount per appointment.
I was wondering if there is someone that could provide this kind of service.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Ardgneas]Could work out a bit pricier than usual given I assume you'll want it translated then repeated in a slightly more concise form.[/QUOTE]
Has anyone made a list of what clubs are still open in Sao Paulo? I am thinking of spending a few days there in April but I am wondering if some of my favorites ever reopened. Millennium, Moulin Rouge, Cafe Gauguin, etc.?
Apparently some are still open.
Just visit [url]http://www.gauguin.com.br/index.asp[/url] and [url]http://www.moulinrouge.com.br/index.html[/url]
Whereas one of them seems not operating as website is under maintenance [url]http://www.cafemillenium.com.br/[/url]
[QUOTE=Cho 637]Has anyone made a list of what clubs are still open in Sao Paulo? I am thinking of spending a few days there in April but I am wondering if some of my favorites ever reopened. Millennium, Moulin Rouge, Cafe Gauguin, etc.?[/QUOTE]
Just observed that when a girl ask for the name of your hotel and is aware of the room rates, she will ask for more per hour or night. I kinda avoid it by pretending not knowing what they're saying to me or just answer that its near.
You are right, some of them are smart enough to modulate their request on type of customer.
This is reason I ask for price/service before even telling where I want to meet: my hotel, their place or a motel.
[QUOTE=Hobbying]Just observed that when a girl ask for the name of your hotel and is aware of the room rates, she will ask for more per hour or night. I kinda avoid it by pretending not knowing what they're saying to me or just answer that its near.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Hobbying]Just observed that when a girl ask for the name of your hotel and is aware of the room rates, she will ask for more per hour or night. I kinda avoid it by pretending not knowing what they're saying to me or just answer that its near.[/QUOTE]
This question , depending on where you are, might work in your advantage:
In rio's termas where the fees are predetermined, the girls always ask you where you are staying , as a conversation starter.
When they do, I usually blow some air up their ass, and claim that I am staying at the famed 'Copacabana Palace'. I get much better service since they hope that I will ask to meet them out of the place of work.
Yesterday I had to leave hotel by 12:00 but my flight out of Guarulhos was only at night.
Very boring hours ?
Not really, I had managed to arrange a meeting with an old friend of mine, now out of business, at Lido to spend part of the afternoon.
I think room cost is acceptable, I took a Premium suite with jacuzzi at R 92 per 3 hours, considering a small lunch is also included.
This was my first experience at Lido, which is clean and convenient as located in a central area.
I was surprised how busy it was. I thought saturday (and sunday) was dead, but it wasn't, and people at reception confirmed is like this every weekend.
Apparently, motel is a good business here in Brazil.
Cannot find anywhere else or on web page - anyone know Clinica Kin hours.
From Monday to Friday: 12:00h to 22:00h
Saturday: 12:00 to 20:00h
Sunday: closed
This is website but under maintenance [url]http://www.clinicakin.com.br/[/url]
[QUOTE=Cho 637]Has anyone made a list of what clubs are still open in Sao Paulo? I am thinking of spending a few days there in April but I am wondering if some of my favorites ever reopened. Millennium, Moulin Rouge, Cafe Gauguin, etc? [/QUOTE]Gaugin is still open. Most of the ladies are seasoned vets so go in knowing you'll need to negotiate and stick to your number. There are a couple that are sweethearts. And some that bring in their "cousins" to turn them on to the game.
[QUOTE=Chan Nimal]Gaugin is still open. Most of the ladies are seasoned vets so go in knowing you'll need to negotiate and stick to your number. There are a couple that are sweethearts. And some that bring in their "cousins" to turn them on to the game.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the info. It was the same the last time I was there. Me and my boys were the only ones there. There were women lined up from one end of the bar to the other. Also saw a couple of Broadway type shows. How about prices?
Dear friends,
I'm first time in Sao Paulo and of course very interested in the Paulista scene (in despite of the limited time).
With gratitude to the fellows who wrote informative reports I did choose to go to Cafe Photo after cruising around a little bit near Augusta street. In this Augusta some SW's but not really my piece of cake. After that to Cafe Photo which is a fabulous place: great inventory of at least 30. 40 garottas, all of higher level (age, presentation, willingness, GF look and feel).
Entrance fee: 140 RS including 2 drinks, which is not cheap of course but a very nice playground in return.
After going around, some chatting, drinks etc. I started the negociations with a selection of the ladies. As usual the starting price is too high and so I wiped out some of them. Than started chatting with a real stunner, 23 yr. From Natal, with small firm titties and a great body. She told to be student and working part time in this business. After drinking together, more chatting and joking she mentioned her price USD 300 for some hours in my hotel. I told her it's too much and offered USD 150. Finally agreed on apr. 200 including taxi. Most probably it's quit much for Brazilian standards but: 1. She looked great, 2. I didn't want to waist time with long discussion about the money issue.
Arriving in the hotel was no problem, ID at reception and here we go.
Ratings of the lady
Body : 9
Pussy : 9
Titties : 8,5 (small, firm with beautifull nipples) > my taste
CBJ : 7
Kissing : 9
General performance : 8,5
Time : approx.2 hours.
The girl left me her cell phone number, that's filed of course for the next round, evt.outside her 'working hours' (less expensive ?).
My conclusion : If you have limited time, some money to spend, like to go to a nice, safe cafe and if you want to find high class ladies than go to Cafe Photo.
Good luck and take care.
[QUOTE=Cho 637]Thanks for the info. It was the same the last time I was there. Me and my boys were the only ones there. There were women lined up from one end of the bar to the other. Also saw a couple of Broadway type shows. How about prices?[/QUOTE]Went there on a weekday. Was the first time so was early around 10pm. They can sense a non-portugese speaker from far away. Expect to get quoted higher prices. The club has some cornered off rooms on the second floor, no doors on it and has couches. Action can be had here but not really comfortable. Was quoted 300 Reais for an hour and countered with 200 which was accepted right away. Girl had an awesome body and sex was good, covered bj and light kissing. The waiter tried to sell me a bottle of champagne but didn't go for that.
[QUOTE=Cornelius]Went there on a weekday. Was the first time so was early around 10pm. They can sense a non-portugese speaker from far away. Expect to get quoted higher prices. The club has some cornered off rooms on the second floor, no doors on it and has couches. Action can be had here but not really comfortable. Was quoted 300 Reais for an hour and countered with 200 which was accepted right away. Girl had an awesome body and sex was good, covered BJ and light kissing. The waiter tried to sell me a bottle of champagne but didn't go for that.[/QUOTE]My experience is about the same but you can find "specials" depending on how many sharks in the water and how many "little fish" are around. I went in on a Thursday, which is a good night for the week, and the door cover (sorry, don't remember how much for entry) which includes a couple of drinks. I caught a couple of "ruvias" who were fairly drunk and we went upstairs to the lounge chairs that have curtains. THey each charged me $170 reais which turned into about an hour and half of mutual playing and cbj, and finished with one girl riding me and the other kissing her. It was pretty good action but the price was a little too high. On another night I found a very cute brunette, petite with long black hair, who tried to work me for 400+ reais for 1 hour but I laughed and started to ignore her. There wasn't much business so after a few times of trying to sell me at a higher number we agreed to 250 reais for 2 hours. Was ok, but not GFE.
It's easier when I stay at the granestanplaza which is right acorss the street. Sometime I can get the girl (s) in without the addt'l charge but sometime they want to be a prick about and end up charging the 50 reais "additional person" charge
Anyway, I think if you go in smart and stick to your budget you can find a cutie at an appropriate price.
I just came back from my latest business trip to Sao Paulo.
This time my business meetings let me little time for mongering; moreover I was escorted (in the polite meaning of this word) by my secretary.
Nevertheless I managed to escape from the business-jail in order to enjoy a couple of paulistas girls!
As usual I stayed at the Intercontinental Hotel that in my opinion is very conveniently located to enjoy our hobby (see my previous reports about Sao Paulo).
On the first day I really wasn’t able to find a way to escape from my business schedule.
I just managed to reach the Bomboa (one of the best club in town for pay-for-pussy activities; it is located in Pineirhos: for further details please check my previous reports) for a quick aperitif before dinner.
If I really wanted I should have time to take a girl to the in-house room but I need plenty of time to enjoy the pleasures of mongering.
Quickies are really not my cup of tea.
Anyway I can confirm that Bomboa is one of the best club in town: a lot of pretty girls around, good music, food and drinks and a fully enjoiable environment!
On the second day the things went much better.
In the afternoon I decide to sacrifice a well-deserved nap in order to test a girl strongly suggested by another ISG member.
I am talking about Alinne Brandão.
She is a small girl from Bahia (I think 1. 55 for 45 kg) with a curvy body whose pictures (togheter with other useful details) can be found on her website ([url]www.alinnebrandao.com[/url]).
I called her in the late morning and we agreed to meet at her apartment that is located in Jardim (I forgot the street name but it is easily available from Alinne herself).
I arrived there at 3 PM and we spent 1 hour and half togheter. To cut a long story short eveything was on the menu (anal included).
I managed to come twice and at the end I gave her a big kiss and 350 reais. Very good experience: she really know how to please a man.
She doesn’t live in Sao Paulo so finding her can be an hit-and-miss but she deserves the effort.
The third day was a nightmare that is better forget but the fourth and last day went much better!
From my last two trips I had the regret of not fucking Fabiana, a girl from one of the best on-line escort agency of all Brazil ([url]www.mclass.com. Br[/url]) who is a real model.
Her pictures was on the Dicember 2008 isuue of Playboy Brazil and on the March 2009 issue of Sexy.
I managed to finish the last business meeting by 11. 30 AM.
My secretary went for some shopping and I called mclass in order to book Fabiana for a couple of hour of afternoon fun.
Unfortunately she was not available and this is not strange as she is one of the most booked girl of the agency.
I told the girl who answered my call that I would have called back later to choose another girl and I immediately opened my laptop searching for a good substitute in the mclass website.
The lucky girl was Nanda, a 23-years old brunett with a nice pair of (silicone-enhanced) tits.
For furhter information: [url]http://www.mclass.com. Br/scripts/mclass. Dll/det? Codaco=1526&retorno=0&lin=1[/url]
One hour after my call she was in my hotel room ready to fuck.
As usual I don’t enter into details.
She performed very well in the sack and she is really a funny girl.
Of course she is a completa.
That’s all.
Italy 1974
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[QUOTE=Albert Punter]I have learned from reliable sources that Julia is no longer in business.[/QUOTE]Albert,
Say it ain't so. My first TLN in SP was with Julia. A pure sweetheart!
[QUOTE=Italy 1974]
In the afternoon I decide to sacrifice a well-deserved nap in order to test a girl strongly suggested by another ISG member.
I am talking about Alinne Brandão.
She doesn’t live in Sao Paulo so finding her can be an hit-and-miss but she deserves the effort.
Italy 1974
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When she travels to São Paulo, she discloses all the information on her Website: date of the stay, cell number(s), location, etc.
Thanks Sui Generis,
I didn't mention this as I hadn't ralize that she used to disclose all the information about her whereabouts on her website.
I had checked her website some weeks ago and written down her mobile number. I didn't bother to visit her website anymore; though I visited her pussy and her ass...
Thank you so much for disclosing this important information.
I will try to indulge with her also in my next trip in late March...
Regards,
Italy 1974
[QUOTE=Sui Generis]When she travels to São Paulo, she discloses all the information on her Website: date of the stay, cell number(s), location, etc.[/QUOTE]
Guys:
Thanks for the feedback to my earlier post.
I will be Sao Paulo from the 20th to 23 of April and will be staying close to the Paraiso metro station.
Does anyone have any recommendations for something/someone close by?
I generally prefer more petite women.
Of course, I am an idiot and do not speak any Portugese.
Thanks for your help.
There's a privê, Redway, close by. You can even walk there (10 minutes walk)
The owner, Fany, as far as I know, doesn't speak Portuguese but tell her that you're looking for a « garota de programa », and she will understand evything and arrange something for you.
[QUOTE=Trevor 3005]Guys:
Thanks for the feedback to my earlier post.
I will be Sao Paulo from the 20th to 23 of April and will be staying close to the Paraiso metro station.
Does anyone have any recommendations for something/someone close by?
I generally prefer more petite women.
Of course, I am an idiot and do not speak any Portugese.
Thanks for your help.[/QUOTE]
You might try the attached link of an interactive map.
[url]http://www.isaw-db.com/index.htm[/url]
[QUOTE=Johntodd]You might try the attached link of an interactive map.
[url]http://www.isaw-db.com/index.htm[/url][/QUOTE]
I love these maps, they're great. Thanks!!!!!!!!
[QUOTE=Johntodd]You might try the attached link of an interactive map.
[url]http://www.isaw-db.com/index.htm[/url][/QUOTE]Awesome, thanks for the help guys!
Trev
Gents
I have visited SP many times, and probably one of the best experiences of my life was in SP in AUG of '03. This one will be different, as the company interest has moved out to Campinas, I will have to find my own hotel in SP. Before on the expense account, it was always the Intercontinetal, but that is out of my price range.
I have two ?'s if I may, has anyone had any experience at this hotel, I read on the forum that Momea is a good part of town to stay. Sonesta Ibirapuera Hotel, just curious.
The other is with this being Easter Sunday, they choice is two days in Rio or SP, I am curious if any of you guys have a feel for the talent available Sunday evening in SP Thanks in advance1
Sky
[QUOTE=Sky Ryder]I read on the forum that Momea is a good part of town to stay.[/QUOTE]
Moema is an enjoyable neighborhood (I fully agree with SG on this point), but there's few nightlife options compared to other bairros. Also the point to consider is that Moema is quite far from everything and that taxis are f*****g expensive in Sao Paulo.
Anyhow if you arrive on a Sunday evening, your only P4P options will be N.Pestana or Augusta strip bars and then Love Story. So better stay in Centro IMO, something like at Comfort Hotel Downtown (former Mercure), which is located rua Araujo in Consolaçao. Same street than LS by the way.
I see there are a ton of Clinicas in Sao Paolo.
For those that have been there recently, can anyone tell me which ones are currently open and good for late afternoon/early evening action?
Looking for a place with a decent number of girls to choose from between the hours of 2pm - 5pm. (7 hour layover)
Thanks, PL99
[QUOTE=Pipe Layer99]I see there are a ton of Clinicas in Sao Paolo.
For those that have been there recently, can anyone tell me which ones are currently open and good for late afternoon/early evening action?
Looking for a place with a decent number of girls to choose from between the hours of 2pm - 5pm. (7 hour layover)
Thanks, PL99[/QUOTE]Palms has great selection but pricey R$190 house 200 for girl.
[QUOTE=Sky Ryder]Gents
I have two ?'s if I may, has anyone had any experience at this hotel, I read on the forum that Momea is a good part of town to stay. Sonesta Ibirapuera Hotel, just curious.
The other is with this being Easter Sunday, they choice is two days in Rio or SP, I am curious if any of you guys have a feel for the talent available Sunday evening in SP Thanks in advance1
Sky[/QUOTE]
Sonesta Ibirapuera is a good place to stay. The hotel is all right and well located. You're near of several attractions (restaurants, bars, privês, Ibirapbuera park and the Ibirapuera shopping center). Moreover, a lot of garotas live there (Amanda Cruz, among others).
It's more difficult to find a girl on Sunday in SP. When you'll be in Brazil you will have access to the GP Guia. There's a heading: MURAL DE RECADOS where the GP that are working on holydays post their schedule (There's even posts where they have promotion, psecial rates, etc.)
[QUOTE=Johntodd]You might try the attached link of an interactive map.
[url]http://www.isaw-db.com/index.htm[/url][/QUOTE]Just a question, when I look at the websites of the massage parlours on the map, I notice that they have prices that range from $60 to $150. Are these generally the house fee and then you negotiate with the girl or is the service included?
Also, do you usually pay the girl extra for pictures?
A real report soon, I promise.
Thanks,
Trev.
Thanks to Ryjerrob and everyone else who answered my questions, I have now had my first Brazilian experience. The map was awesome, and helped me determine which locations were closest to my hotel.
Well, after doing a little research I decided on the American Center Massage Clinic for some well deserved (if I say so myself) relaxation. I figured that it is unlikely that anyone speaks English so I decided to email them first to see if there was anyone on staff that spoke English, and the answer is no. (I used one of the online translation programs to send my questions in both English and Portuguese) They responded quickly with some good information and I have copied the email into this posting.
They are located about a 5 minute walk from the Paraiso metro station and it was easy to find. Basically, one block over and then down the hill a few blocks.
I arrived late (about 9:15 and they close at 10:00 and tomorrow is a holiday so I was not expecting a huge selection.
They had three ladies working, Bia, Fernanda and Kelly. Kelly seemed to be in charge and met me in the office to show me the ladies and negotiate things.
From the pictures on their website, I thought that I would prefer Fernanda or Mel and fortunately Fernanda was available. She is about 5’3" and slender with small breasts and is probably around 20 years old with a beautiful face. Perfect for me, just the way I like them.
Now, I do not speak any Portuguese and they do not speak any English, so communicating was difficult but Kelly managed to ask me if I wanted a half an hour or a full hour. Foolishly, I said a full hour even though I new that they closed in less than an hour.
Kelly took me to the room and left me with a towel and a fresh bar of soap. Fernanda came in and made it clear that she would prefer to do a half an hour so that she could leave and I agreed. Then she gave me some great girlfriend kisses and told me to shower; which I did while she prepared the bed and changed out of her clothes. Once I finished my shower, she hopped in and took great care to wash herself completely.
We started with some light touching and kisses and then she moved to some BLS and a quick BBBJ. She started rubbing my sphincter and asked if I liked that when I said yes she slipped a condom on her finger and got to work with a gentle massage. Actually, it was a first for me and I cannot say that I actually enjoyed the experience.
Next we moved to reverse cowgirl for a while and then to missionary with a lot of kissing and caressing. I knew that time would be running out so I decided to finish quickly. She cleaned me up and kissed me for a while and then I hit the shower with her for a few minutes.
Then out the door and back to the office where Kelly told me it was 110 reais. I thought that ½ and hour was supposed to only be 90, but given that I had told Kelly an hour I was not going to argue over 20 reais.
In the office I noticed that they had the massage licenses posted and there were only five, so I assume that means that they only employ five girls right now.
Overall, a nice gentle GFE with a girl who I thought was spectacularly beautiful in a girl next door kind of way.
For anyone interested in going there, the following information is what I received back from my email enquiry.
The pictures are from their website.
Cheers,
Trev
[quote]First of all we would like to thank you for your interest in our services. We have already logged your e-mail address in our files and you will receive promotions and be the first one to know when new pictures are ready to be seeing in our web site.
Below is a list of information that will probably help you with some of your questions:
American Center is a massage clinic who’s employees are high-level escorts / masseuses between the ages of 18 – 25 trained and certified in the art of muscular relaxation.
We are open from Monday through Friday from 12:00 till 10 PM and Saturdays from 12:00 till 8 PM. (We are closed on Sundays and Holidays).
We work with various types of massage such as Massotherapy, Thailand’s, Spanish, Super Relaxing and Indian in the periods of 30 minutes or more.
The Massotherapy is a traditional massage made with the masseuse’s hands all over your body. Prices are: R$ 60, 00 for 30 minutes and R$ 80, 00 for one hour.
The Thailand’s is a very sensual massage where the masseuse will use her hands, breasts, buttocks and legs to apply the massage in your body and will finalize with a manual relaxation plus the Massotherapy. Prices are: R$ 60, 00 for 30 minutes and R$ 80, 00 for one hour.
The Spanish is both of them mentioned above and will finalize with a breast relaxation. Prices are: R$ 90, 00 for 30 minutes and R$ 110, 00 for one hour.
The Super Relaxing being the most complete massage we have, includes all of the types mentioned above and will finalize "any way you like it". Prices are: R$ 90, 00 for 30 minutes and R$ 110, 00 for one hour.
The Indian massage is made with 2 or more masseuses depending on your fantasy. Prices will vary depending on the type of massage and the number of masseuses.
Couples will be charged double (the masseuse will attend both at the same time) depending on the type of the massage and the duration.
We also service you hotel or residence for R$ 200, 00 for one hour, R$ 300, 00 for two hours and R$ 400, 00 for three hours plus the taxi (special prices for six or more hours).
Any extra service will be charged extra.
That is no need for appointment in our location, our system is "first come, first serve".
We accept US$, Brazilian currency, Dinner’s Club, Visa and MasterCard (A very discreet name will appear in your statement).
We also have security inside and outside our Clinic, valet service and garage at no additional cost to you.
All of our 07 suites are equipped with heaters, soft music, massage creams, accessories, etc and some of them with Jacuzzi (Additional cost of R$ 30, 00 an hour).
We also have a promotion: For every 6 massages (at our location) you will receive one massage courtesy.
Come to have a courtesy drink with us and meet our beautiful female staff.
We are located at Rua do Paraíso, 642, very closed to Avenida Paulista and four blocks from Paraíso subway station. If you speak Portuguese and need more information, give us a call at (0xx11) 3451-8288 / 3262-0745 and we will answer all your questions.
We hope that we were able to help you with some of your questions and you can also contact us by e-mail: [email]contactatamcenter.com. Br[/email]
Don’t forget to check our web site:
[url]http://www.amcenter.com.br[/url][/quote]
Sorry, I forgot the pics.
Went to Love Story on the Sat. (or Sunday morning) after saw it mentioned here. If you look for hotties, forget about this place.
Location: R. Araujo 232
I arrived at Love Story at 3AM Sunday morning. There was no line. The doorman probably recognized me as gringo immediately. He asked me to pay 50R. I got 2 free drinks for it. Not sure what locals pay to get in. The place was packed and pumping. It is not a big club as Help in Rio. The energy level of club is way better than Help.
Girls: Vast majority of girls are ugly. Many of them are fat. I have never seen so many fat Brazilian girls in one place. About 80% of them are under 5 on scale of 10. Many of them were even old. I would not do them even if I get paid. Rio’s Help has better looking girls and I don’t like Help girls. There are no high caliber working girls here.
Maybe many of these ugly girls are regular girls. They look like from a low social class. But, man, they are fat and ugly. Remind me so much about many of American girls.
There were many working girls here. I tried to talk to some just for marketing research. Did I mention that they were not that attractive? I only asked one girls about the price. She is probably a 6. She opened with 300R first and I declined. Then dropped to 200R. I decline again while I fondled her ass at the same time. Her friend (maybe a 4) grinded her ass on me while the 6er kept talking. I was not interested to take them anyway. I did not understand her final offer. But I probably can get her and her friend for under 200R.
I did buy these 2 girls a beer. It cost 15R a beer. Not sure if this is gringo price or not. It is pretty expensive, more expensive than Nuth in Rio.
I only saw 2 girls that I would do in the whole night. They seem like regular girls. Much better dressed. later teen or early 20s. I talked to the taller girl. She does not speak English. So, after 3 minutes of talking, I could not go any further because of my limited Portuguese. I saw many guys approaching these 2. They turned most of them away. Finally, the taller girl hooked up with a young guy after 6AM. The young guy did a great deal of talking in order to close the deal (make out).
There were not many tourist type gringos here. Most of people seem to be local.
Around 6 AM, I saw a few decent, regular looking girls coming in. They stayed on dance floor 10 minutes and left.
I left the place at 7AM and went my hotel for breakfast.
This place is great for dancing. Not much else.
Hello
I may be going there next month for business and wanted to if anyone knew of any good escort sites which isn't bait and switch.
Language will be an issue for me and I do not know what my transportation will be or where my hotel will be at the moment.
So I was thinking the best route would be just look someone up on escort site.
Also, how much should I expect to pay for an OVERNIGHT (is that 6-8 hours generally? )
From reading thru the posts, it seems like this agency is indeed good and NOT Bait and Switch
Can everyone confirm this?
[url]http://www.mclass.com. Br/scripts/mclass. Dll/main[/url]
So basically any more escort sites that can be confirmed as legit,
The expected cost in USD for an overnight, and
What about the language issue when calling these agencies.
Thanks again everyone
[QUOTE=CaptainNemo]Went to Love Story on the Sat. (or Sunday morning) after saw it mentioned here. If you look for hotties, forget about this place.
[/QUOTE]
Great report.
A few years back I inquired on this thread about going to Love Story. I thought I would arrive in Sao Paulo on a Friday and hit Love Story both Friday night and Saturday night then continue on to Rio on Sunday.
All the experts at the time told me that this would be a mistake as Love Story really only is happenning during the week not on the weekend. They told me the best nights would be Tuesday thru Thursday because since Sao Palulo is a business center that everybody goes out of the city on the weekend.
As a result of this I never made it there yet, when I go to Brazil/Rio I usually arrive on Thursday or Friday and always thought I would make it to LOve Story by going there during the week while I was in Rio and that has not happened yet.
Maybe some of the Sao Paulo experts can chime in verify this or not.
[QUOTE=Sangue Bon] Love Story really only is happenning during the week not on the weekend.[/QUOTE]
Love Story is also excessively crowdy both during the week and on weekends, but is without doubt at its best Monay/Thursday, when maybe 90% of the girls are GdP. As everyone knows, contrarily to Rio, most of the working girls in SP are 7+ euro-ethnic meninas.
On the contrary, on Friday and Saturday, most of the girls are regulars (with some freelancers though). And as in Brasil the ratio or density of really hot non-pros girls is admitedly not that high, I'm not surprised that Captain Nemo found the place rather uninspiring.
I believe my repliy is late, however can be useful for others.
Sonesta Ibirapuera is nice hotel and not expensive in case you book through their website in advance. Otherwise, you may want to try Intercity Premium which is right in front on other side of Avenida.
I don't think they are far from action.
The Palms or Cafe Photo are not far away, for example, you can virtually walk to the second. And a taxi drive to the Jardins area where lots of GDP reside is a mere R 25-30.
[QUOTE=Sky Ryder]Gents
I have visited SP many times, and probably one of the best experiences of my life was in SP in AUG of '03. This one will be different, as the company interest has moved out to Campinas, I will have to find my own hotel in SP. Before on the expense account, it was always the Intercontinetal, but that is out of my price range.
I have two ?'s if I may, has anyone had any experience at this hotel, I read on the forum that Momea is a good part of town to stay. Sonesta Ibirapuera Hotel, just curious.
The other is with this being Easter Sunday, they choice is two days in Rio or SP, I am curious if any of you guys have a feel for the talent available Sunday evening in SP Thanks in advance1
Sky[/QUOTE]
SL,
that webiste is one of the most famous but you can also rely on many others (just scroll this thered and you will find them mentioned).
It is not an agency as numbers you see posted are those of the girls. So when you call you speak to them direct.
Some girls speak english and you can manage to invite them to their place or to visit them at their place.
Only problem with those websites is that many pics are heavily edited with photoshop and you may dream about a girl who in reality doesn't look how she appears.
ST rate normally goes from R 150 to 300 (USD 65 to 130).
Sorry, I am not updated about overnight rates.
[QUOTE=Surf Looker]Hello
I may be going there next month for business and wanted to if anyone knew of any good escort sites which isn't bait and switch.
Language will be an issue for me and I do not know what my transportation will be or where my hotel will be at the moment.
So I was thinking the best route would be just look someone up on escort site.
Also, how much should I expect to pay for an OVERNIGHT (is that 6-8 hours generally? )
From reading thru the posts, it seems like this agency is indeed good and NOT Bait and Switch
Can everyone confirm this?
[url]http://www.mclass.com. Br/scripts/mclass. Dll/main[/url]
So basically any more escort sites that can be confirmed as legit,
The expected cost in USD for an overnight, and
What about the language issue when calling these agencies.
Thanks again everyone[/QUOTE]
So I am in San Paulo currently.
I decided to call a girl who looked great in her pics:
[url]http://www.contatos.com.br/nome.php?nome=babihot[/url]
[url]http://66.163.168.225/babelfish/translate_url_content?.intl=us&lp=pt_en&trurl=http%3a%2f%2fwww.kissclass.com.br%2fmodelos%2fmichelehot.html[/url]
I am in the Tryp Heniopolis area. I had someone at the hotel make the call and accommodations for me. I gave him 30R
So the cost for this girl
250R for 2 hours and includes her taxi
Well she shows up and WOW. Someone did a great job on her pics bc it is her but not like the pics.
Braces, a little hair, darker skin. And just a crazy girl. She was in my room and I didn't want her to make a loud fuss if I told her to leave right away. So we had quick one and I ended up giving her 200
She didn't speak any english.
So theres my bad experience. I'm still in Sao Paulo. I'm working during the days till late evenings so its hard for me to go out.
So I don't want to leave with a bad experience so I may try another girl. I was thinking these 3.
[url]http://www.mclass.com.br/scripts/mclass.dll/det?codaco=1564&retorno=0&lin=1[/url]
[url]http://www.mclass.com.br/scripts/mclass.dll/det?codaco=1486&retorno=0&lin=1[/url]
[url]http://www.mclass.com.br/scripts/mclass.dll/det?codaco=1569&retorno=0&lin=1[/url]
It says these girls were in magazines so I'm hoping they are real.
After making some calls to other girls. I have found the language barrier is an issue. Atleast it has been for me.
Looking for a good aparttmentt to rent in sao Paulo.
1. Anyone know of a good agency?
2. What section of town is best, thinking Im primariily going for p4p action but just want to fiind something close to it.
Thanks
[url]http://www.cafephoto.com.br/english/index_br.asp[/url]
or
[url]http://www.bomboa.com.br/boate/boate.htm[/url]
What rates am I looking at.
Door fee
And the ladies.
[QUOTE=Surf Looker][url]http://www.cafephoto.com.br/english/index_br.asp[/url]
or
[url]http://www.bomboa.com.br/boate/boate.htm[/url]
What rates am I looking at.
Door fee
And the ladies.[/QUOTE]Both 190 door fee, cafe foto you get 4 drinks w/ fee bomboa you get as credit towards food or drinks. Ladies ask about the same, photo they start at R500 for an hour at your hotel. Bomboa they ask R300-400 for one hour and they prefer the hotel next door which is R100/hr.
[QUOTE=Surf Looker]
... After making some calls to other girls. I have found the language barrier is an issue. Atleast it has been for me.[/QUOTE]
Well that's a big surprise :)
So I wasnt too far from Bomboa.
So I took a quick cab ride there to just check it out what the scene is like.
So I get there. And here are the numbers.
180 to get in.
And then 100 for the hotel room. Is it per hour or something?
And then the rates for the girls are what they tell you.
If you want to take the girl to your hotel. Its 100
So the guy. Marcos I think. Let me in and allowed me walk around and check out the scene.
WOW. I can't believe I wasted money on websites. Yes they are cheaper but you don't get the girls that are portrayed in their pics.
Bomboa had plenty to choose from and very beautiful girls!
But I guess I'm looking at 280 (entrance and hotel room for an hour) plus the girl rate which can be anywhere to 300-500
So at min 580 for an hour or max 780 reais for an hour
280 USD
375 USD
Which is pricey
And these are the numbers you guys said before.
Thanks again
Just ask me for the most essential stuff I speak very good Portuguese (anybody up for trip in the future? ) and my best friends here in the States are Brazilian. Anyway, I just finished watching "Sexo Urbano: Sao Paolo" on HBO. Man oh man they have pretty women there especially the strippers. After watching this. I'm more than determined to go there maybe even buy a vacation home out there.
Here are some good places / bars / nights / avenues you might want to check out when you're out there:
Sauna Mista
Disco VIP Room
Fazerinha Night Club
Ask for any Casa de Jogo Erotico or Casas Noturnas which have Strippers/Garotas De Programma
Bairro Tatuape (Bingo Erotico--“Connection” Night Club )
Bairro Vela Vistaà Rua Agusta (get a Garota off the streets for about $300 Reais)
Bairro Itaim Brai
Disco “Cheers”
Viva o Brazil porra (long live Brazil)
-Truly yours....
P. KRaKr--The WorldWide Monger---
"I may be college educated and in my 20s but sh!t... my goals in life are very simple... to travel the world in search of the best pu$$y (and a$$)"-ME
Bon Vivant...near Bomboa, same location as the late lamented Donna Caffe
[url]http://www.barbonvivant.com.br/[/url]
[QUOTE=Surf Looker][url]http://www.cafephoto.com.br/english/index_br.asp[/url]
or
[url]http://www.bomboa.com.br/boate/boate.htm[/url]
What rates am I looking at.
Door fee
And the ladies.[/QUOTE]
Hi.
I would like some advice from one of you guys living in sampa, or have lived there in the past and know it well.
I am a rio man, Ive been living here for 3 years, and I have only visited sampa on few occasions for short visits, I dont know it well at all.
Me and my carioca GF are seriously considering buying a nice little Chacara (house+land) in greater sampa, 60-100k ish real, somewhere in the neighbouring municipios sourrounding sampa, because we want a better quality of life in a house with some land, higher then what is available inside the city of sampa for this same amount of money.
The question is, any advice on normal non-favela like municipios that are really close to sampa, close to enough to be able to drive to work from the outside of sampa towards central sampa every morning and still arrive in less then an hour from that location to the center of sampa ?
Also, from what ive been able to gather online its the south of sampa that is especially poorer and more problematic. so in which direction should I buy a house, so I wont have to pass through lots of favelas every day on my way to work from outside of sampa going inwards to the center of sampa ?
Would really appreciate a good advice from someone who knows.
Thanks
Bomboa
Entrance fee: 180 plus service charge. Basicall 200 reais
You can use that 180 reais for drinks (pricey) or buy food. If you get there early they have some buffet for free
Found this tall, late 20s girl. Christina. To me very pretty.
Had to negotiate and after a while. Got it down to:
400 Reais for TWO HOURS in my hotel
So at Bomboa if you take the girl out they charge you 100 are
So final charges at BOMBOA
Entrance (200)
Take the girl to my hotel (100) pretty girl (400)
So total 700 reais which included the taxi for us to get to my hotel and her to get back
Not sure if I overpaid or not but had a good time with a pretty girl.
So Bomboa was an excellent experience
If I can manage some more cash. I would like to try Cafe Photo
I've heard Cafe Photo and then Bomboa and the possibly Connection Club are the top 3 in Sampa
Any recent reviews on Cafe Photo.
Thanks
Besides Cafe Photo.
Is there any recommended place where you only pay an entrance fee.
I already have a hotel and would need to take taxi to get back so mite as well take the girl back.
But places like BOMBOA charge you 100 Reais to take girl out of the place
I just want to pay an entrance fee ONLY.
[QUOTE=Surf Looker]Besides Cafe Photo.
Is there any recommended place where you only pay an entrance fee.
I already have a hotel and would need to take taxi to get back so mite as well take the girl back.
But places like BOMBOA charge you 100 Reais to take girl out of the place
I just want to pay an entrance fee ONLY.[/QUOTE]As I indicated earlier, I highly recommend Bon Vivant...very near Bomboa.
[url]http://www.barbonvivant.com.br/[/url]
[QUOTE=Surf Looker]Besides Cafe Photo.
Is there any recommended place where you only pay an entrance fee.
I already have a hotel and would need to take taxi to get back so mite as well take the girl back.
But places like BOMBOA charge you 100 Reais to take girl out of the place
I just want to pay an entrance fee ONLY.[/QUOTE]
Garden Club - Rua Alvorada 550, Vila Olimpia. The best club in SP!
GK
I will be checking into the Grand Hyatt Sao Paulo on Sunday. Does anyone know if the bellman or some of the security guys will have a "book" with pictures or could arrange girls for me?
Or are they not girl-friendly.
Thanks,
Chuck
Does anybody know what the price range might be for an upscale apartement preferably with a balcony in a nice neighbourhood (Jardins, Moema, Higienopolis)?
GK
[QUOTE=Genghis Khan]Does anybody know what the price range might be for an upscale apartement preferably with a balcony in a nice neighbourhood (Jardins, Moema, Higienopolis)?
GK[/QUOTE]
It depends of what you mean by «upscale». I am aware of the prices for apartment in Moema. Expect to pay, monthly, around R$1,400 (that's an average price). One of my friend have an apt. in Moema (3 bedrooms) and he pays a little bit less than that. I am also aware that you need a "fiador" if you want to rent an apt.
I have a girlfriend, still in Moema, on Rouxinol between Pintasilgo and Santo Amaro, and she pays R$1,600 for one bedroom apt. She has two balconies (one giving in the front (Rouxinol) the other on the side of the building. In the building there,s a laundry room, a pool, a training center and a garage. It,s a nice building but the apartment is very small.
Thanks,
Sorry if I was not clear. My intentions would be to buy and not to rent. Upscale was in reference to the bairros I mentioned. I would be looking a penthouse or something with a nice view and a balcony.
GK
[QUOTE=Genghis Khan]Thanks,
Sorry if I was not clear. My intentions would be to buy and not to rent. Upscale was in reference to the bairros I mentioned. I would be looking a penthouse or something with a nice view and a balcony.
GK[/QUOTE]
In that case expect to pay between R$300,000.00 and R$700,000.00
Friday night/morning
2 am
Love Story
Entrance Fee- 50 r
2 drinks
Very crowded. Hard to walk around, not much space. Loud. Fun
Girls- above average looking many of them. Not at the Bomboa or Cafe Photo level but still some pretty ones
Deal- 200 are back to my hotel for like 4 hours, very pretty blonde named Nicole.
[QUOTE=Genghis Khan] My intentions would be to buy and not to rent. Upscale was in reference to the bairros I mentioned. I would be looking a penthouse or something with a nice view and a balcony.[/QUOTE]
When I was a frequent visitor to Sao Paulo, I also considered buying a nice apartment somewhere in Pinheiros, Altos de Pinheiros or Perdizes to use during my trips. For my search I notably contacted Cyrela, which is one of the most important upscale real estate developer in town. They have plenty of interesting developments, and also lots of second-hand apartments to sale.
[url]http://www.cyrela.com.br/web/ficha/busca.aspx?bus1=c1&bus2=0&bus3=0&bus4=0&bus5=0[/url]
You can contact one of their "corretor" (broker) by email. They are very efficient and diligent.
[QUOTE=Member #1461] Me and my carioca GF are seriously considering buying a nice little Chacara (house+land); from what ive been able to gather online its the south of sampa that is especially poorer and more problematic. so in which direction should I buy a house, so I wont have to pass through lots of favelas every day on my way to work from outside of sampa going inwards to the center of sampa ?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, Sao Paulo Zona Sul is essentially favelas and poor bairros like Jardim Angela (once considered by UN as one of most violent urban area in the world), Capao Redondo (which slowly becomes better though) or Grajau, which is the worst district of SP and probably the worst urban sector in Brasil when it comes to crime. Nonetheless there's also in Zona Sul some nice neighborhood such as Interlagos, Saude and some others.
Cool bairros out of Sao Paulo central cosmopolitan bowels? Well, there's literally hundreds of them within city limits. If I'd searched a quite cheap house in a nice, non-sophisticated and relatively low-rise neighborhood, I'd personally go West, somewhere like Butanta, which is close from Marginal Pinheiros, Sao Miguel Paulista, a very nice lower-middle class bairro, or Jaragua, one of the greenest and more "rural" district of Zona Oeste.
That's just a few suggestions. In Zona Norte, bairros like Freguesia, Paredo Inglesa or Jardim Sao Paulo are nice and real estate is undoubtedly quite cheap there. In Zona Leste, districts like Tatuape, Belem, Penha or Sao Miguel Paulista are also nice. Once more, there's plenty of enjoyable lower-middle class/middle class neighborhoods in SP.
Just avoid Zona Sul.
Cafe Photo
Wow. Beautiful selection of women. Classy place, just like the pics on their site. The girls will not come to you right away unless you call them over to sit or go up to them.
Different from Bomboa where the girls will come to you and be playful.
Entrance: 130 are
This was on a Saturday.
Gets you 2 drinks
Girl: beautiful model type blonde. Wow
350 are for hour and half at my hotel. She was great. Started at 500R like most will but then you can get the price down quickly especially on a Sat when its not as busy
Overall.
Cafe Photo is a must. Beautiful selection of women.
Love Story. Late hours, 2 am and so on. 50 are to get in. Very crowded. All types of people there and women. Some good looking and some not so good looking. But you can get the best deals there. And have a good time
Bomboa-180 are to get in and gets you like 7 beers girls go for 250-350. They have a hotel next door is 100 are.
But if you want to take girl back to your hotel you have to pay 100 are.
Stick with the nightclubs. There are some sites mclass, splove, but girls in their pics will always be photoshopped.
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[QUOTE=Prosal]Yeah, Sao Paulo Zona Sul is essentially favelas and poor bairros like Jardim Angela (once considered by UN as one of most violent urban area in the world), Capao Redondo (which slowly becomes better though) or Grajau, which is the worst periferia of SP and probably the worst urban sector in Brasil when it comes to crime. Nonetheless there's also South some nice neighborhood such as Interlagos, Saude and some others.
Just avoid Zona Sul.[/QUOTE]
It's true that there's favelas in Zona Sul...but it's in the southern part of that zone. Here were speaking of a very large zone. There's still very respectable hoods in that zone: Itaim Bibi, Moema, Indianapolis, Morumbi, Brooklyn, etc.
There is also a nice zone between Moema and Vila Mariana. There buildings there new upscale condos.
[QUOTE=Sui Generis]It's true that there's favelas in Zona Sul...but it's in the southern part of that zone. Here were speaking of a very large zone. There's still very respectable hoods in that zone: Itaim Bibi, Moema, Indianapolis, Morumbi, Brooklyn, etc.[/QUOTE]
SG, your "different reading of Zona Sul" is just plain wrong.
Moema, Itaim, ect are adminitratively part of Zona Centro-Sul or Zona Centro-Oeste and geographically of Centro Expandido. They're not part of Zona Sul by any means.
Here is a Sao Paulo districts map ; Zona Sul is in blue, Centro Expandido in grey :
[QUOTE=Chuck K]I will be checking into the Grand Hyatt Sao Paulo on Sunday. Does anyone know if the bellman or some of the security guys will have a "book" with pictures or could arrange girls for me?
Or are they not girl-friendly.
Thanks,
Chuck[/QUOTE]
Hi Chuck
to bring girls at Hyatt is no problem, 50brl charge. I have never asked the bellman but it is no problem to find a girl in SP.
go to Bomboa or Cafè Photo, make yr choice and take her to yr room.
bb5
[QUOTE=Tommy America]Bon Vivant...near Bomboa, same location as the late lamented Donna Caffe
[url]http://www.barbonvivant.com.br/[/url][/QUOTE]Hey Tommy,
What is the pricing for P4P for this club?
[QUOTE=Genghis Khan]Garden Club - Rua Alvorada 550, Vila Olimpia. The best club in SP!
GK[/QUOTE]GK: What is the price structure for the Garden Club? Is this the place that's an on-site Mansion?
[QUOTE=Almotu]Hey Tommy,
What is the pricing for P4P for this club?[/QUOTE]I've been there once and it was like 160R for door fee to use for drinks. I ordered juice and a girl got a glass of champagne and it was over 160 and the waiter kept on asking for tips so I was turned off by the place. There were like 20 girls there and were cute but nothing sparked my interests.
[QUOTE=Surf Looker]Friday night/morning. Love Story. Very crowded. Hard to walk around, not much space. Loud. Fun. Girls- above average looking many of them. [/QUOTE]
The key to really appreciate Love Story, especially on a weekend night when it's excessively crowdy, is to take a VIP table bordering the dance floor (bottle mandatory).
Pure bliss.
I'm planning my first trip to Brazil in August. I'll fly from California to Rio and stay 13 days. I'm determined to see Iguazu Falls (or however it's spelled).
I thought I'd take a bus to Paraty for a couple of nights and then to Sao Paulo before traveling on to Iguazu.
But after reading through the reports, Sao Paulo sounds pricey and slow to get around, not a good value, although I would like to see the mega metropolis.
But I'm thinking I ought to blow it off, add a few days to Rio, and just take a round trip from Rio to Iguazu.
What do you think?
And don't hesitate to PM me if that's more appropiate. I'm really not what the topic-starter protocol is here.
Thank you for your patience.
I am doing a quick 2 night trip to Sao Paulo next week. I will have most of Sunday free as well as Monday night.
Can you recommend some spots near Brooklyn Novo (short cab distance)? I've been to Solarium in Rio a few times, and really enjoyed myself. I'd like to find something similar open Sunday. There seems to be a lot of massage clinicas near there. Can anyone comment on these?
Can incall mongering be had on a Sunday afternoon in Sao Paulo? Otherwise is there a place to pick up a TLN type of girl during the day/early evening (who will stay for a few hours)?
Does anyone know the details about Gauguin Cafe? What is the prices/quality? Reputable place? What time they open? Shows seem to start at 10pm according to their website, but I would like some action earlier, perhaps to take back to my hotel that is very close by. What are Sundays like there?
[QUOTE=Adaptable]Does anyone know the details about Gauguin Cafe? What is the prices/quality? Reputable place? What time they open? Shows seem to start at 10pm according to their website, but I would like some action earlier, perhaps to take back to my hotel that is very close by. What are Sundays like there? [/QUOTE]On the ground in SP. It is a buyers market. All the garotas in the clubs are compalining there are no Gringos in SP and the Brazilians are not spending their money. A good time can be had for very little depending on your skills.
[QUOTE=John Corey]On the ground in SP. It is a buyers market. All the garotas in the clubs are compalining there are no Gringos in SP and the Brazilians are not spending their money. A good time can be had for very little depending on your skills.[/QUOTE]What they did quote you or what did you pay?
I'll be there next week but the Real is 2.03 so if it is less now it's still paying about the same as I did 3 months ago when it was 2.37. Can never get a break lol
[QUOTE=John Corey]On the ground in SP. It is a buyers market. All the garotas in the clubs are compalining there are no Gringos in SP and the Brazilians are not spending their money. A good time can be had for very little depending on your skills.[/QUOTE]Please elaborate. What do you consider spending 'very little'? With the entrance fees, room fees, 'take-out' fees, taxis. I don't think you can get away with spending less than $R450 for a couple of hours ST with one girl.
[QUOTE=John Corey]On the ground in SP. It is a buyers market. All the garotas in the clubs are compalining there are no Gringos in SP and the Brazilians are not spending their money. A good time can be had for very little depending on your skills.[/QUOTE]
Let us know where you go and the skinny on how low you can negotiate. $250/R including the entrance fee is what I paid last month in Rio @ Solarium....but it was the best I've had on 5 continents. Looking to do as good or better in SP.
I need some help for an upcoming trip. I am familiar with Rio, but have not spent much time in SP. Not surprisingly, my luck in SP has not been the best. Reading some of the posts, the prices at these places are muy caro. The places I like in Rio are the thermas (4X4, L'uomo, Monte Carlo, etc.). I don't enjoy the scene at Help. I don't like bringing girls back to my room.
Can someone throw me a line with some advice?
Adaptable,
Hmmm. My experience at Guaguin has been different. Great selection and with some decent negotiation price is about 250R for up to a couple of hours.
[QUOTE=Chan Nimal]Adaptable,
Hmmm. My experience at Guaguin has been different. Great selection and with some decent negotiation price is about 250R for up to a couple of hours.[/QUOTE]
Great. Was that for back to the hotel....or did you use the rooms on site?
Anyone have any suggestions for Sunday afternoon?
[QUOTE=Milwaukee]...The places I like in Rio are the thermas (4X4, L'uomo, Monte Carlo, etc.). I don't enjoy the scene at Help. I don't like bringing girls back to my room.[/QUOTE]I think your only options are the clinicas de massagem (massage parlours) & prives. As far as I know, there are no on-site rooms at Cafe Photo & Gauguin. Bomboa now has their rooms in a separate building next door. The Ocean Club near the end of the Nestor Pestana clubs (Kilt, Vagao, My Love) have a hotel next door also with ST rooms for R$80 an hour.
Anyone in Sao Paulo now that can tell us if Cafe Millenium is open or not?
[QUOTE=Adaptable]Great. Was that for back to the hotel....or did you use the rooms on site?
Anyone have any suggestions for Sunday afternoon?[/QUOTE]Guaguin has a second floor where some limited things can go on. But I would suspect limited due to the recent crackdowns by the gay mayor. (whole different subject).
To answer, the 250R was to the girl. If my memory serves me well. There was a small "token" payment out the door to the house. But again, due to the crackdowns, Guaguin seems to be taking a more "what happens outside is not my problem" approach.
Regarding Sunday. Hmm. My experience is that many girls take Sunday's off. And I think many of the termas are limited/closed or not many girls on. Termas tend to be a M-T/F kind of thing for the business men. I think there is a post on prev page (s) that suggests checking out GPGUIA. I don't do the streetwalker thing so can't remark whether that's an option on Sundays.
[QUOTE=Almotu]Please elaborate. What do you consider spending 'very little'? With the entrance fees, room fees, 'take-out' fees, taxis. I don't think you can get away with spending less than $R450 for a couple of hours ST with one girl.[/QUOTE]The Entrance fees are never going to come down (I wish) even with the ebb and flow of business as the clubs have a captive audience in the garotas. What I meant was that in Photo for instance they would start at Rs500 and stick with it. Now, it is Rs 400 and Rs 350 and goes down to Rs 250 very quickly and the second it was for about four hours till I was exhausted and had to ask her to leave.
[QUOTE=Adaptable]Let us know where you go and the skinny on how low you can negotiate. $250/R including the entrance fee is what I paid last month in Rio @ Solarium, but it was the best I've had on 5 continents. Looking to do as good or better in SP.[/QUOTE]I do not think at anytyime you are going to find those prices inclusive of the entrance in Sao Paulo for the better clubs.
i've called or looked up most of the major massage clinicas around brooklyn, and they don't pick up their phones or list that they are closed on sunday on their website. i'm hoping to have better luck with the clubs later tonight. it's too bad because i was really looking forward to a bit of therapeutic massage as well as some extra fun in the afternoon.
kilt is the only club i know of that is open on sunday nights.
[quote=adaptable]i've called or looked up most of the major massage clinicas around brooklyn, and they don't pick up their phones or list that they are closed on sunday on their website. i'm hoping to have better luck with the clubs later tonight. it's too bad because i was really looking forward to a bit of therapeutic massage as well as some extra fun in the afternoon.[/quote]
[QUOTE=Tommy America]Kilt is the only club I know of that is open on Sunday nights.[/QUOTE]
Right. Even the other strip clubs on rua N.Pestana are closed on Sundays.
That being said, Sunday evening is a great day for bar hopping in Sao Paulo. Many "in" bars in Pinheiros, Itaim, V.Olimpia, Jardins, Bela Vista, ect (that makes hundreds of them) have a Sunday party with musica ao vivo (usually MPB or samba) which begins quite early, around 6pm, and is INEVITABLY packed to the walls. Drinks are usually cheaper on that day, and there's always promotions such as "mulheres VIP" or things like that.
Paulistas LOVE going out on Sunday evenings. It's a great day for "paquerar" (chasing) non-pros. Also it's the day where the GDP on their day off go out for fun and party.
One of my Brazilian colleagues gave me the skinny on why Bahamas closed....long story short: A plane crashed in SP. An investigation was launched. Investigation uncovers that there is a tall building near the airport that makes it tricky to land. Building is investigated. Turns out that the owners of the building are related to the guy who owns Bahamas. Bahamas is investigated and they find that it is a bar that also has rooms for sex on premises. Police close Bahamas and any other club in SP with rooms. So the story Paulistas abbreviate: "Bahamas closed because of a plane crash"...and that's why all of the clubs in SP require the girls to be taken off premises (to a nearby motel or hotel room).
I should have a clinca review later today.
Greetings,
I will be spending some time on SJC. My last trip down there about a year ago, I had the information below for Prives, Massage and indies. Is this list still valid??? Can any of you guys with some good SJC experience and know how assist me with validating this info or adding more to it.
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São José Dos Campos Partial list.
PRIVÊS:
1) 118 Benedito Candelário Street – Downtown
Prices : R$50 (1/2 hr) R$100 (1h)
2) 189 Mário Galvão Street (Downtown)
Phone: (12) 3431-2993
Prices: R$60 (1/2h) R$100 (1h)
3) 402 Cap. Ferrera Maldos Street
Phone: (12) 3941-6265
Prices: R$50 (1/2h) R$80 (1h)
4) 147 Romeu Carnnevale (Downtown)
Phone: (12) 9124-5804
Prices; R$60 (1/2h) R$100 (1h)
MASSAGE:
1) Belfrance
Phone: (12) 3922-4878
Internet Site: [url]http://www.belfrance.com.br/[/url]
Price : R$160 (1h)
2) Clínica Corpoinsano, 70 Roma Street
Phone (12) 3941-9218
Price: R$160 (1h)
FREELANCE GDP
[url]http://www.carolzinha.tk/[/url]
Norely Moranguinho: [url]http://br.geocities.com/noely_moran.../textnoely.html[/url]
Daiane Jacapau (Mulata) Phone: (12) 9146-3052
Aghata Mell Phone: 9182-2912 (She lives on Rua Roma) R$120 (1h)
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I certainly appreciate that and as usual, I will report back my experiences and hope to add photos as well like last visit.
Cheers
A15m
A few days ago I had a taxi driver promoting Connection, located in Av. Dr. Eduardo Cotching 1178 in Vila Formosa.
He said it is a nice place where you can have some food, drink and obviously you can meet girl and spend time with them on premises.
Entance fee should be R 70, if I remember properly, and cost for girl around R 200 (he didn't specify time or type of service - and I didn't ask).
Taxi driver stated a lot of young and fresh girls work there, particularly weekends, as during week they go to "facultade". He also offered to drive me there for free in case I didn' like the place.
Obviously he will get some tip from the club in case customer stays, in addition to fare.
I have made some search in the forum but found no reports.
Has someone any comment on this place ?
Thanks
I finally had some free time to check out a clinica this evening (a little disappointed my meeting lasted until 8pm). All of the places I called closed around 9pm, so I made a quick of list of addresses. The taxista did not know any of them.... so rather than wasting even more time, I told him to take me to one.... I thought I was doomed, but fortunately he took me to "the best" in SP (according to him). It was a $17R cab ride to France-Bel in Campo Belo.
When I arrived I got a very elaborate tour of the facilities. You can get anything from a steam bath to a haircut to a pedicure. Then you go into a pretty cool room with modeling pictures of the masseuses with a light above each one indicating their availability. I choose the athletic 26 yr old mulata named Talyata (not sure about the spelling), then was offered a variety of rooms, of which I choose "standard" ($150R/hour). I was escorted to the room and told to wait. About 5 minutes later my masseuse shows up, looking very much like the pictures....with a few small tatoos (that I discovered when her panties came off). Very perky and cute (5ft 1in...but 6 inches taller in those stripper heels)...with a tight Brazilian beach body, B Cup real boobs, and long dyed blondish hair. I showered, then got on a Japanese futon style matress, and she strips down to bra and panties.
The massage was quite good and relaxing, and she was quite talkative....but had no problem understanding my Portunol. We laughed a bit then she took off her bra and rubbed my back with her tits. Then she turned me over and did the same with my front...maneuvering to get me good and hard. Then she offered the HJ for $50R, and everything else for $150R. I took the full service option, and she proceeded to give me a nice BBBJ with lots of attention paid to the balls. After a few minutes she sucked on a condom and climbed aboard for various styles of cowgirl including me rubbing her clit for a while (she likey) and some tongue kissing (not quite DFK, but nice).....then I had her on all fours for a nice round of doggie style, pounding her tight ass (anal was on the menu, but I did not partake). She had a well groomed nice tight pussy. I came...she cleaned me up and gave me another massage while I almost fell asleep.
After the massage, we talked for a long time about Sao Paulo and her job there. Funny enough she said that the worst customers are Cariocas... going so far as to call them rude and barbaric. hehehe
I showered, cleaned up, settled her part of the bill in cash, and paid for the room with my credit card (no fee imposed). All up it was $300R put ~$35R in cabs.....a bit more than I would have liked to spend, but it was my first time in SP since Bahamas a few years ago, and it was safe and convenient. I will probably repeat the next time I'm in SP.
[QUOTE=Albert Punter]A few days ago I had a taxi driver promoting Connection, located in Av. Dr. Eduardo Cotching 1178 in Vila Formosa.
He said it is a nice place where you can have some food, drink and obviously you can meet girl and spend time with them on premises.
Entance fee should be R 70, if I remember properly, and cost for girl around R 200 (he didn't specify time or type of service - and I didn't ask).
Taxi driver stated a lot of young and fresh girls work there, particularly weekends, as during week they go to "facultade". He also offered to drive me there for free in case I didn' like the place.
Obviously he will get some tip from the club in case customer stays, in addition to fare.
I have made some search in the forum but found no reports.
Has someone any comment on this place ?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Connection, Cafe Photo, Bomba , etc., they are all the same- except that Connection would cost you minimum 100 R round trip in a taxi (from downtown). Yes, it is that far. The question why do you wanna travel a long distance at night in city like SP , where you can get the exact same thing next door.
I would take Cafe Photo over those places.
Weekdays the entrance is 180
On Saturday is 130
The girls are beauitful.
[QUOTE=Tiradentes]Connection, Cafe Photo, Bomba , etc., they are all the same- except that Connection would cost you minimum 100 R round trip in a taxi (from downtown). Yes, it is that far. The question why do you wanna travel a long distance at night in city like SP , where you can get the exact same thing next door.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Albert Punter]A few days ago I had a taxi driver promoting Connection.He also offered to drive me there for free in case I didn' like the place.[/QUOTE]If he will really drive you for free, I'd go for it! I went to this club more than a year ago when they still have the fixed price. Entrance fee + one girl for 40mins + the room. I believe it was around $R255. I think I was there on a Thursday and it was pretty lively with a bunch of Brazilian guys on a birthday or bachelor party. The girls were pretty cute with a couple of hardened pros thrown in. I would definitely check it out with a wingman to Split the costs. Also you can take the Metro to a station nearby and cab it from there.
[QUOTE=Surf Looker]I would take Cafe Photo over those places.
Weekdays the entrance is 180
On Saturday is 130
The girls are beauitful.[/QUOTE]
The girls at Cafe Photo are snob. On the other hand , the girls at Connection seemed more playful. Plus, in Connection, there are room upstairs.
Connection fits in the same category as Bomboa, Millenium, Bahamas, etc. The only downside is the distance, unless you are staying nearby.
Well I found the girls at Cafe Photo very pleasant and some playful.
I look at the costs as well. On Saturday.I went to cafe photo:
Entrance: 130 R on Sat
Taxi: 30 R to get their
The Girl: hot blonde.350 R for hour and half
Back to my hotel: free. She had her own car so we drove in her car.
So total cost: 510 R for amazing time.
So depending where you are. The cost for entrance. Then taxi ride roundtrip costs. And then the girl cost.
And for those places like Bomboa which has hotel. They charge by the hour. So 100 R per hour.Overall I think I got a better deal at Cafe Photo.
[QUOTE=Tiradentes]The girls at Cafe Photo are snob. On the other hand , the girls at Connection seemed more playful. Plus, in Connection, there are room upstairs.
Connection fits in the same category as Bomboa, Millenium, Bahamas, etc. The only downside is the distance, unless you are staying nearby.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Almotu] Also you can take the Metro to a station nearby and cab it from there.[/QUOTE]
Right. Mongers shouldn't hesitate to use the Metro in Sao Paulo. It's safe, convenient and cheap.
Tatuape, the bairro where Connection is located, is only five stations from Praça da Republica. I think it's even direct from Bras station with the East Express (Expresso Leste).
Then it takes only a 5 minutes taxi ride from the station to Connection. Cost of the trip : R$ 2.5 for the metro ticket and around R$ 8 for the cab.
I managed to sneak another trip to France Bel in Campo Belo again before my flight. I arrived at 3:30pm and managed to have 30 mins to spare before my flight at 8:20pm (after a VERY LONG cab ride to the airport).
This time, I simply went into the gallery room and chose an available girl (no time to spare). I chose a brunette named Alesandra. She looked better in person that her pictures! Reminded me of a taller, more voluptuous Christina Ricci. 5"7', real C Cup boobs, and of course a perfect Brazilian bunda! Stunningly beautiful face with great skin. Tasteful bikini style lingerie.
Massage was better than the last time....more skills in that department. When it came time of the action, she started by oiling up her tits and rubbing them on my back, then she turned me over and did the same for my front. Pausing to let me suck her nipples. There was some light kissing on the lips, and then she start a CBJ...not bad, but not a BBBJ like the other girl. Then she climbed on for various types of cowgirl while I rubbed her clit. Then I flipped her over and finish with a long doggie style session. We were both sweating afterwards. Kitty was not as tight as the other girl, but it more than got the job done.
She cleaned me up and gave me more of a massage (foot massage) then we talked and cuddled for a while. Really sweet girl. I was stunned when she told me she had 2 kids, considering her body was near perfect.
Another great time at France Bel....$300R all up, and a quite the getaway on the way to the airport. I will be be back in Brasil in June to both Rio and SP...as well as Venezuela and Columbia.....life's rough!
Hello:
I'm hoping that someone with some local experience can help me out. I have to be at two facilities in Sao Paulo next week. The first is near Sao Caetano do Sul on Av. Dos Estados and the second is near Gaurulhos. Normally, I would stay closer to town near the Paulista area, but that seems too far for morning commutes to the above two destinations.
I thought a hotel near Connection might be perfect. It's almost equi-distant between these two facilities. Does anyone have any recommendations for a high end, chica friendly hotel near Connection, or a better alternative? Hotel cost is not a problem since it's all going to be expensed back to clients.
Thanks. I've been searching on the net but find few good hotel recommendations.- at least in English, my Portuguese is not strong. Thanks in advance for any recommendations.
I visited this prive two days ago and was presented with five so-so girls and then a very tall black girl named Bruna came out last. She had to be at least 5'10" and she had a huge hairdo that was completely in ringlets. She was 22 and pretty, but not beautiful. The prices quoted were 90 for half and 120 for one hour. We went upstairs and she pulled off her bra to reveal two nipples on her right breast! Apparently, the top one has feeling and the bottom does not. She was shy and acted like she was new to the escort business. I could tell she was not sure of herself in all aspects. But, she gave me a good CBJ while squatting in front of a mirror- she pushed it on with her tongue and it was a good BJ. Several positions followed, finished with doggie on the bed. She has a beautiful ass and I must say my dick got harder watching the ringlets bounce around. Though she was very sympathetic, she would not kiss with an open mouth. She then let me watch her take a shower in the room at the end. It felt like I was doing an 18-19 year old new to the business, so I can recommend Bruna, though she was cautious.
[QUOTE=Albert Punter]A few days ago I had a taxi driver promoting Connection, located in Av. Dr. Eduardo Cotching 1178 in Vila Formosa.
He said it is a nice place where you can have some food, drink and obviously you can meet girl and spend time with them on premises.
Entance fee should be R 70, if I remember properly, and cost for girl around R 200 (he didn't specify time or type of service - and I didn't ask).
Taxi driver stated a lot of young and fresh girls work there, particularly weekends, as during week they go to "facultade". He also offered to drive me there for free in case I didn' like the place.
Obviously he will get some tip from the club in case customer stays, in addition to fare.
I have made some search in the forum but found no reports.
Has someone any comment on this place ?
Thanks[/QUOTE]I'd say go for it. Quality was outstanding when I was there, and the vibe was really fun.
Make sure you have a solid driver, as its a long ways out and not in the best of areas if memory serves me .
[QUOTE=Tommy America]Kilt is the only club I know of that is open on Sunday nights.[/QUOTE]Romanza is open also on Sundays, saw some girls from Cafe Photo there since they're closed on Sundays. Place was packed. I was giving to options at the door 100R for entry 50R to take girl out or 180R which includes 4 drinks. The gay looking manager who speaks english tried to get me pay 100R when I took a girl out but I said to him you said 50R. Some of the girls do strip shows so you get too see all of her. All the girls were very playful I ended taking a girl out for 400R for all night since it was 1am and the place was getting empty. She was good but real professional not much gfe.
Went to Kilt on another Sunday, it was 3am and was getting empty and girl took 400R for all night. 2nd girl I've taken out of Kilt both very average.
Another Sunday option is girldelivery.com. Br which is a clinica, was nice inside. There was 3 girls there when I went in the afternoon but didn't like the selection, 250R for everything. Perhaps weekdays has more girls.
Went to Mistrium ex. Conniff not far from Bomboa. 100R to enter which can use for drinks or food. 80R to take girl out or pay for room next door. There were about 25 girls there from 5-8. Some strip shows by some of the girls. They were very playful. Girl I wanted striped on stage but left with another guy. Girls ask 300R but will take 200R said the manager. I think is a good place to stop in to take a look.
I went another day to Bomboa same 180R but noticed that there's a service charge for drinks not inclusive in the 180R. I think it goes to the girl I got a drink for. Maybe I just never noticed it before.
Went to Garden Club last week. 180R for entrance had a hard time understanding the manager's portuguese but it turned out it didn't include drinks and 200R to take girl out. I was there at midnight and place was full. Not very nice decor inside imo for such an expensive place. Saw like 15 girls there maybe all 8-10. The 10 I saw was a blonde model from Floripa, real swim suit magazine model test shots for playboy etc. I was there all of 10min when I saw her and had to have her. She was on her way out actually, she said because it was a slow night. She said 600R for hour I said 600R for 3 hours and she agreed. She ended up staying 4 hours. She was gfe with me and a 10 so well worth what I spent that night. We had something very personal in common so we connected. We met for lunch the next day and walked around a little but everywhere we went people would notice her. She is the hottest girl I've met in SP and is why SP is my favorite place to hobby in the world.
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She sounds great. Wish you had pics. Yes SP is the best. I miss it. The women in Cafe Photo are beautiful.
[QUOTE=Hobbying]Went to Mistrium ex. Conniff not far from Bomboa. 100R to enter which can use for drinks or food. 80R to take girl out or pay for room next door. There were about 25 girls there from 5-8. Some strip shows by some of the girls. They were very playful. Girl I wanted striped on stage but left with another guy. Girls ask 300R but will take 200R said the manager. I think is a good place to stop in to take a look.
I went another day to Bomboa same 180R but noticed that there's a service charge for drinks not inclusive in the 180R. I think it goes to the girl I got a drink for. Maybe I just never noticed it before.
Went to Garden Club last week. 180R for entrance had a hard time understanding the manager's portuguese but it turned out it didn't include drinks and 200R to take girl out. I was there at midnight and place was full. Not very nice decor inside imo for such an expensive place. Saw like 15 girls there maybe all 8-10. The 10 I saw was a blonde model from Floripa, real swim suit magazine model test shots for playboy etc. I was there all of 10min when I saw her and had to have her. She was on her way out actually, she said because it was a slow night. She said 600R for hour I said 600R for 3 hours and she agreed. She ended up staying 4 hours. She was gfe with me and a 10 so well worth what I spent that night. We had something very personal in common so we connected. We met for lunch the next day and walked around a little but everywhere we went people would notice her. She is the hottest girl I've met in SP and is why SP is my favorite place to hobby in the world.
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[QUOTE=Stan Da Man]Hello:
I'm hoping that someone with some local experience can help me out. I have to be at two facilities in Sao Paulo next week. The first is near Sao Caetano do Sul on Av. Dos Estados and the second is near Gaurulhos. Normally, I would stay closer to town near the Paulista area, but that seems too far for morning commutes to the above two destinations.
I thought a hotel near Connection might be perfect. It's almost equi-distant between these two facilities.[/QUOTE]Since someone wrote that it is a short taxi ride to Connection from Tatuape.
Maybe you can check out.
[url]http://www.solmelia.com/hotels/brazil/sao-paulo/tryp-tatuape/home.htm[/url]
I'm about to book a room in one of the following hotels, which I plucked from reading through posts here and guidebooks, so I'm not sure if they are all "girl friendly."
If you've had any negative experiences with any of the places, especially in terms of accommodating mongers on the prowl, please don't hesitate to post a criticism.
By girl friendly, I mean they'll allow a prostitute to come up to my room without charging me an extra fee.
But if the fee is reasonable, I may be willing to pay it.
Well-reviewed hotels in Sao Paulo:
Augusta Park Hotel (LP, p.290) Avenida Paulista, August St. 922
3124-4400
get a view
$60
Akasaka (LP, 290) Liberdade, Praca da Liberdade 149
3207-1500
akasaka.hotel.com.br
Formule 1 Paulista (LP, 290) Avenida Paulista, Rua da Consolacao 2303
3123-775
accorhotels.com
$55
Eldorado Boulevard (RG, p. 583) Downtown, Av Sao Luis 234
11/3214-1833
$45.
Augusta Palace (RG p. 585) Rue Augusta and around, Rue Augusta 467
11/256-1277
$136.
Ca d’Oro (RG, 584) Rua Augusta 129
11/3256-4300
$174.
Pergamon (RG, 584) Rua Augusta and around, Rua Frei Caneca 80
11/3120-2021
Formule 1 Sao Paulo Paraiso (Jardins) (RG p. 584) Rua Vergueiro 1571
11/5085-5699
Mercure Apt The Excellence ( ) Rua Capote Valente, 500 - Pinheiros - São Paulo
(11) 3069-4000
$110.
Mercure Hotel São Paulo Jardins
Al. Itú, 1151 - Cerqueira César - São Paulo - SP - Brasil
Telefone: (11) 3089-7555
$140.
Transamerica flats
???
Othon flats.
???
Intercontinental Hotel
???
Sonesta Ibirapuera
???
Premium which is right in front on other side of Avenida.
???
Comfort Hotel Downtown (former Mercure), which is located rua Araujo in Consolaçao.
[QUOTE=Pelongera] so I'm not sure if they are all "girl friendly." [/QUOTE]
Sao Paulo is a progressive and pretty liberal place. All hotels are girl friendly.
Also hoes (and mongers) are usually classier and more discreet in SP than in sex-tourism Meccas such as Rio, Recife or Fortaleza, which partly explains hotels permissiveness.
[QUOTE=Pelongera]I'm about to book a room in one of the following hotels, which I plucked from reading through posts here and guidebooks, so I'm not sure if they are all "girl friendly."
By girl friendly, I mean they'll allow a prostitute to come up to my room without charging me an extra fee.
But if the fee is reasonable, I may be willing to pay it.
Well-reviewed hotels in Sao Paulo:
Formule 1 Paulista (LP, 290) Avenida Paulista, Rua da Consolacao 2303
3123-775
accorhotels.com
$55
Formule 1 Sao Paulo Paraiso (Jardins) (RG p. 584) Rua Vergueiro 1571
11/5085-5699
Mercure Apt The Excellence ( ) Rua Capote Valente, 500 - Pinheiros - São Paulo
(11) 3069-4000
$110.
Sonesta Ibirapuera
???
.[/QUOTE]
Concerning Formula 1 hotels, the rooms are small are without accomodations. This is a very low budget choice. However a lot of garotas live there.
Mercure Apt The Excellence. I was there in 2005. No charges were added. I received three gaotas : Elektra Stocklos (she parked her car in the garage and took the elevator without going to the registration desk; Maya/Eva Poison she was escorted to my room by a groom : no charges were added; and Leticia Lima: she visited me twice: I met her in the hall and the other time she came with me from ataxi: no charges).
Sonesta Ibirapuera: A lot of garotas live ans receive theirs johns there.
[QUOTE=Sui Generis]Concerning Formula 1 hotels, the rooms are small are without accomodations. This is a very low budget choice. However a lot of garotas live there.
Mercure Apt The Excellence. I was there in 2005. No charges were added. I received three gaotas : Elektra Stocklos (she parked her car in the garage and took the elevator without going to the registration desk; Maya/Eva Poison she was escorted to my room by a groom : no charges were added; and Leticia Lima: she visited me twice: I met her in the hall and the other time she came with me from ataxi: no charges).
Sonesta Ibirapuera: A lot of garotas live ans receive theirs johns there.[/QUOTE]Thank you, Sir,
I confess that the idea of sleeping in a complex where a bunch of prostitutes stay appeals to me.
But I'd also like to hop over to Love Story on an impulse.
(a) How long would you estimate a taxi ride is from, say, Formule 1 (Jardins) to Love Story?
(b) And how much would you guess it'll cost under typical conditions?
[QUOTE=Pelongera]I'm about to book a room in one of the following hotels, which I plucked from reading through posts here and guidebooks, so I'm not sure if they are all "girl friendly."
If you've had any negative experiences with any of the places, especially in terms of accommodating mongers on the prowl, please don't hesitate to post a criticism.
By girl friendly, I mean they'll allow a prostitute to come up to my room without charging me an extra fee.
But if the fee is reasonable, I may be willing to pay it.
Well-reviewed hotels in Sao Paulo:
Augusta Park Hotel (LP, p.290) Avenida Paulista, August St. 922
3124-4400
get a view
$60
Akasaka (LP, 290) Liberdade, Praca da Liberdade 149
3207-1500
akasaka.hotel.com.br
Formule 1 Paulista (LP, 290) Avenida Paulista, Rua da Consolacao 2303
3123-775
accorhotels.com
$55
Eldorado Boulevard (RG, p. 583) Downtown, Av Sao Luis 234
11/3214-1833
$45.
Augusta Palace (RG p. 585) Rue Augusta and around, Rue Augusta 467
11/256-1277
$136.
Ca d’Oro (RG, 584) Rua Augusta 129
11/3256-4300
$174.
Pergamon (RG, 584) Rua Augusta and around, Rua Frei Caneca 80
11/3120-2021
Formule 1 Sao Paulo Paraiso (Jardins) (RG p. 584) Rua Vergueiro 1571
11/5085-5699
Mercure Apt The Excellence ( ) Rua Capote Valente, 500 - Pinheiros - São Paulo
(11) 3069-4000
$110.
Mercure Hotel São Paulo Jardins
Al. Itú, 1151 - Cerqueira César - São Paulo - SP - Brasil
Telefone: (11) 3089-7555
$140.
Transamerica flats
???
I stayed at the TransAmerica Opera (Jardins) on my first trip to Sampa in 2004. There was no problem and no charge for having "guest". They do however have to "register". For your protection as well as the hotels. They also serve the best "canja de sopa" that I have ever had. :)
[QUOTE=Sam Fun]I was wondering if there is any translators, portuguese to english, available in sao paulo who could help me there. Specifically with setting up appointments with the providers. So basically who can do a conference call and help with the translation.
Thanks[/QUOTE]This is the same problem I am having. I want to go to Sao Paulo, but if I can't set up an appointment, then there isn't any point. Does anyone know of anyone who can translate? (I will pay the translator, of course.)
[QUOTE=Freedom3]This is the same problem I am having. I want to go to Sao Paulo, but if I can't set up an appointment, then there isn't any point. Does anyone know of anyone who can translate? (I will pay the translator, of course.)[/QUOTE]
It's mandatory to speak Portuguese when you call agencies garotas because you have to «combinar um encontro» (set up in details the services you want to receive: DFK, DATY, anal, taxi fare, etc.). Howerver, there an easy way to get round this: ask a bellboy working in your hotel to serve as a translator.
Certain agencies, such as McClass, give a complete description of the garota and under the rubric «idiomas» you can see if she speaks English or not.
New vip madam available.
Serious mongers only please pm me for details.
[QUOTE=Brugal8]New vip madam available.
Serious mongers only please pm me for details.[/QUOTE]What is a "vip madam"?
All mongers are familiar with this brazilian forum.
It has been down for a couple of days now. Any info on why?
I strongly suggest NOT to go looking for someone on the escorts sites. Even reputable ones like mclass.
Look thru my posts and I got burned when I did that.
Best is to go see someone in person.
Most places have someone who speaks english and can help you out.
This was the case at Love story, Cafe Photo and Bamboa.
It's not down. I tried several proxy sites to access gpguia and keep getting 403 error, access forbidden. Looks like they've been more successful at blocking access to it from outside Brazil.
A quick search found one proxy site that gives limited access: [url]http://www.projektorimusic.com[/url]
(which isn't working now.) :(
Search Google for proxy servers, and post which worked for you.
An option I just stumbled upon: configure your web browser to connect to the internet via a proxy. (Will require more research for me.)
You have to change your web browser connection settings and manually set them. If you don't know how, Google search for detailed instructions on how to do that.
I got it to work on Internet Explorer 8 and Firefox using Mexican proxy: 201.147.20.245
port setting: 80 (so i don't have to configure the firewalls.)
It's possible that this proxy may stop working. If so, Google search for a proxy that is anonymous.
I was able to access it up until recently here in the US. I couldn't access when I was in Brasil last month at Renaissance hotel. Don't understand why they want to block out the gringos, would think they want more traffic for their ads.
it was hacked into a few months back from outside Brazil. They've blocked access from outside Brazil since then.
I recently went to Connection on a Friday night. I took the metro to the Carrao stop and then a 12R taxi fare to the club. I arrived around 7:30. The entrance fee was 80R that can be used in consumption. If you are a light drinker (I am)it can last a while. A beer runs 12R and water/soft drinks around 10R. I had an individual pizza for dinner and I think that was around 20R. An onsite room here runs 70R for an hour and is very nice as is the club.
When I arrived there were around 12 to 15 garotas available. As the night went on more and more arrived. Around midnight there were at least 35 or 40.
I talked to a few garotas and settled on a 23 year old that said she used to work at Bahamas before it closed. She was a cute spinner that obviously spent time in the gym. She passed my interview without any problems until we reached the part about money. The local boards indicate that a number of the locals are paying 150R - 200R for an hour. She wanted a gringo/sucker price of 300R. I told her that I would pay the fair/local price of 200R. After a little discussion, she had no problem with 200R.
In the room, she spent a lot of time showering and doing a doing a dance around the room. My opinion was that she was stalling for time. Once I got her focused on why we were there, she did everything she agreed to in the interview. However, she was well short of superstar quality. She gave me her phone number and wanted to come out to my hotel for a session. I never called her since I had no interest in repeating.
I left the club after I finished my session which was a little after midnight. I took a taxi back to my hotel in Jardins and it ran 67R on the meter. Since many of the garotas arrive later in the evening, it really isn't possible to take the metro back to centro. The Metro closes at midnight. It's best to go with someone to share the transportation costs.
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Very helpful post.
Can you tell what Nanda from mclass cost for an hour at the hotel?
[QUOTE=Italy 1974]
The lucky girl was Nanda, ...
One hour after my call she was in my hotel room ready to fuck.
As usual I don’t enter into details.
She performed very well in the sack and she is really a funny girl.
Of course she is a completa.
That’s all.
Italy 1974
[/QUOTE]
I asked this question of the fine gentleman on the Rio board, and they suggested that I get some input from the Sao Paulo contingent. I am considering a trip to Brazil. I am a bunda guy, however I have a strong affection for asian women. So I think you can see my problem right off the bat.
But I am holding out the hope that maybe I can find an asian with a nice bunda in Brazil since it has a large Japanese population. What are the odds of finding such of a heavenly creature in Sao Paulo? Would I have better luck looking for a coelacanth. You know the prehistoric fish found off the coast of Madagascar.
[QUOTE=Tan1929]I asked this question of the fine gentleman on the Rio board, and they suggested that I get some input from the Sao Paulo contingent. I am considering a trip to Brazil. I am a bunda guy, however I have a strong affection for asian women. So I think you can see my problem right off the bat.
But I am holding out the hope that maybe I can find an asian with a nice bunda in Brazil since it has a large Japanese population. What are the odds of finding such of a heavenly creature in Sao Paulo? Would I have better luck looking for a coelacanth. You know the prehistoric fish found off the coast of Madagascar.[/QUOTE]
If you're looking for a Japanese GDP, São Paulo is definitely the place in Brazil to find that. Take in consideration, however, that there are only few of them.
This is a list from my private records and all these GDP were active between March and today.
You can find pure Japanese (born in Brazil = Nissei) or mestiça (mix of Brazilian and Japanese).
The Japanese (Nissei) are:
Meyre Gueixa (11 7200-5572. Maybe the oldest Japanese GDP in São Paulo. Between 45 and 50. Still attractive. I met her in a private party in 2005. Very funny woman. My friends told me that she is the queen of anal sex. Unfortunately she lives in the same building of my GF)
Paula Japonesa fofa (11 8812-9759 R$100. Another «coroa» i.e. over 40 years old)
[url]http://4sf6jfcfnzla.uolk.uol.com.br/[/url]
Suki (Phone (11) 8712-2427) $R250)
Mayume Shizue (11 7392-8899 R$80)
[url]http://www.abusado.com.br/nome.php?nome=mayumishizuejaponesa[/url]
Sayuri (Phone 11 8725-5805 R$200. She's 1m78 tall!)
[url]http://www.acompanhantesbrasil.com.br/saopaulo/garotas/index.asp?id=298&ad=58[/url]
Sayuki Saitto (11 6684-0324 R$250)
Luiza Ayumi/Anita Lee (11 6763-7565 R$250))
[url]http://www.kinn.com.br/aceppt/frmAttendant.php?codigo=33[/url]
[url]http://www.acompanhantesespeciais.com.br/si/site/0412[/url]
Ayumi Pkena (11 7246-5002 R$250)
Yuri Japinha (11 7126-5209 R$150)
Athamy (11 7171-0510)
[url]http://www.chantily.com.br/saopaulo/garotas/orientais/athamy.htm[/url]
Among the mestiças there are:
AYUMI OKAWA (R$200 + taxi R$30)
[url]http://www.chantily.com.br/saopaulo/garotas/mesticas/ayume.htm[/url]
Yuki (Phone (11) 7221-9198. R$100)
Harumi Matsuno (11 8250-0652 R$200)
[url]http://www.erosguide.com.br/Harumy-Matsumo/Harumy-free.htm[/url]
Kaya Katsumi (Phone: 11 8751-4372 R$250)
[url]http://www.brmodelos.com.br/[/url]
Sabrina Okimoto (Phone 11 7192-6772 R$150)
Emiko Matsuno (11 8250-0652)
[url]http://www.ensaiovip.com/perfil.php?id=1180[/url]
Mayume Sato (11 6359-4682 R$250))
[url]http://www.ensaiovip.com/perfil.php?id=1153[/url]
Yoko (11 9254-0128 R$250) )
[url]http://www.erosguide.com.br/Yoko/Yoko-free.htm[/url]
Sabrina Suzuki (11 8442-7660 R$250)
[url]http://www.clubdasacanagem.xpg.com.br/galery2/index.html[/url]
Thaís Okamoto (Phone 11 9540-8160 R$150)
[url]http://www.chantily.com.br/saopaulo/garotas/mesticas/thaisokamoto.htm[/url]
I can testify myself that Transamerica Opera, in Alameda Lorena, and Sonesta Ibirapuera, in Avenida with same name, are girl friendly. No additional charges added. At Opera they only used to see/record ID of garota in case she was entering by herself (me waiting upstairs). In case she was coming in with me they didn't care.
As Sui Generis stated, I can confirm working girls stay at same flat or hotels we may stay. So when you see a hot girl in the elevator or at breakfast, she may be one of them ...
p.s. what a strange selection you made: some luxury hotel and some very cheap.
[QUOTE=Albert Punter]I can testify myself that Transamerica Opera, in Alameda Lorena, and Sonesta Ibirapuera, in Avenida with same name, are girl friendly. No additional charges added. At Opera they only used to see/record ID of garota in case she was entering by herself (me waiting upstairs). In case she was coming in with me they didn't care.
As Sui Generis stated, I can confirm working girls stay at same flat or hotels we may stay. So when you see a hot girl in the elevator or at breakfast, she may be one of them ...
p.s. what a strange selection you made: some luxury hotel and some very cheap.[/QUOTE]Thanks, AP.
(Strange? I don't know. I'm a value shopper, so it often happen that my search results span the price ranges. I'd buy a Boxter or a Corolla before I buy a Chevy Malibu.)
I settled on London Othon Suite, which I booked through Booking.com. They were selling one room for one night at $90US.
I'm hoping their doorman will be good enough to telephone an escort, as I don't speak Portuguese.
I'd also like to indulge a Japonese-Brazilian. So I appreciate Sui's list below.
What do you guys think the chances are of Japonese providers working a clinica in Liberade?
Is it fair to assume that in that neighborhood, I'm more likely to find a Japonese provider?
[QUOTE=Pelongera]
What do you guys think the chances are of Japonese providers working a clinica in Liberade?
Is it fair to assume that in that neighborhood, I'm more likely to find a Japonese provider?[/QUOTE]
I'll check that and I'll come back with an answer later this week. Note that some Japonese GDP that are on my list are former providers that were working formerly in clinicas.
Japanese and Mestiças working in São Paulo.’s Clinics (2009)
You won't find more Japanese providers in Liberdade. Au contraire! They tend to hide from the members of their community what their doing. So, in a nutshell: Not many Japanese/Nisei/Mestiça providers in Liberdade (the traditional Japanese district).
Here's the active providers still working in clínics (2009)
Clínica Abbobora: 644, Avenida Miruna (Moema)
Phone: (11) 5092-5787 / 5092-4168
R$120
SAYURI (Japanese) [No anal, BBBJ & LFK/DFK
[url]www.abbobora.com.br[/url]
Clínica Antares: 268, Avenida Bosque da Saúde (Praça da Àrvore)
Phone: (11) 2578-9389/5078-8579
R$150
AKEMI (Mestiça)
Web Site: [url]www.clinicaantares.com.br[/url]
Clínica Brooklin: 121, rua Joaquin Guarani (Brooklin)
Phone: (11) 5181-8000/ 5183-4555
R$120
SAYURI (Mestiça) [No Anal, BBBJ and DFK/LFK are YMMV],
Web Site: [url]www.brooklinmassagem.com.br[/url]
Clínica Cherry 2019, Rua Pascal (Campo Belo)
Phone: (11) 5041-2119 / 5044-5696
R$170
SAYURI (Japanese) [Anal, BBBJ, LFK/DFK]
Site: [url]http://www.clinicacherry.com.br[/url]
Clínica Maytreia: 145, rua Baceúnas (Moóca)
Phone: (11) 2061-2011/ 2219-2865
R$120
YUMI (Mestiça) [Anal, BBBJ, LFK/DFK YMMV] (Last report on her was in November 2008. I don’t know if she’s still there))
YURI (Mestiça) [Anal, BBBJ, LFK/DFK]
Web Site: [url]http://www.maytreia.com.br/[/url]
Clínica New Tokyo: 127, Rua Caramuru (Santa Cruz)
Phone: (11) 5072-2016 / 5581-5195
R$140
AKO (Japanese) [No anal, BBBJ, DATY, LFK/DFK] [Note: she’s almost 45 years old]
Site: [url]http://www.newtokio.com.br/[/url]
Clínica Shangri-lá: 1062 Avenida Pompéia (Pompéia)
Phone: (11) 3873-7739
$R 100 ($R80 for members of the GP GUIA)
MARIANA JAPONESA (In fact she’s a mestiça). She began to work there July 20th 2009. 33 years old. Big breasts. Only one report [Anal, BBBJ no, DFK/LFK]
Web Site: [url]http://www.clinicashangrila.com[/url]
Clínica Washi: 148, Rua Dr José Queirós Aranha (Vila Mariana)
Phone: (11) 5579-8587
R$100
AKEMI (Mestiça) [1 report in February 2009. We can describe her style as DTME: «Don’t touch me experience». The reviewer said that she only allowed (PPMM, that papai-mamai (doggy style). No DATY, she hides her pussy with her hands.)
[QUOTE=Sui Generis]Japanese and Mestiças working in São Paulo.’s Clinics (2009)
You won't find more Japanese providers in Liberdade. Au contraire! They tend to hide from the members of their community what their doing. So, in a nutshell: Not many Japanese/Nisei/Mestiça providers in Liberdade (the traditional Japanese district).
Here's the active providers still working in clínics (2009)
Clínica Abbobora: 644, Avenida Miruna (Moema)
Phone: (11) 5092-5787 / 5092-4168
R$120
[b]SAYURI[/b] (Japanese) [No anal, BBBJ & LFK/DFK
[url]www.abbobora.com.br[/url]
Clínica Antares: 268, Avenida Bosque da Saúde (Praça da Àrvore)
Phone: (11) 2578-9389/5078-8579
R$150
AKEMI (Mestiça)
Web Site: [url]www.clinicaantares.com.br[/url]
Clínica Brooklin: 121, rua Joaquin Guarani (Brooklin)
Phone: (11) 5181-8000/ 5183-4555
R$120
[b]SAYURI[/b] (Mestiça) [No Anal, BBBJ and DFK/LFK are YMMV],
Web Site: [url]www.brooklinmassagem.com.br[/url]
Clínica Cherry 2019, Rua Pascal (Campo Belo)
Phone: (11) 5041-2119 / 5044-5696
R$170
[b]SAYURI[/b] (Japanese) [Anal, BBBJ, LFK/DFK]
Site: [url]http://www.clinicacherry.com.br[/url]
Clínica Maytreia: 145, rua Baceúnas (Moóca)
Phone: (11) 2061-2011/ 2219-2865
R$120
YUMI (Mestiça) [Anal, BBBJ, LFK/DFK YMMV] (Last report on her was in November 2008. I don’t know if she’s still there))
YURI (Mestiça) [Anal, BBBJ, LFK/DFK]
Web Site: [url]http://www.maytreia.com.br/[/url]
[/QUOTE]The occurrences of 'sayuri' makes me wonder if the name is used in Liberdade! (or what it signifies, in any event)
Thank you very much!
[QUOTE=Pelongera]The occurrences of 'sayuri' makes me wonder if the name is used in Liberdade! (or what it signifies, in any event)
Thank you very much![/QUOTE]
Sayuri means «small lily».
There are over a million japanese in Sao paulo largest population outside of Tokoyo, most japanese are in Liberdade area may good japanese resturant in the area.
There are a few massage place but no FS, not many Japanese pro here most are rich people here, the Brazilan and japanese mix are some of the hottest babe in the world.
Fast Eddie 48
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]There are over a million japanese in Sao paulo largest population outside of Tokoyo, most japanese are in Liberdade area may good japanese resturant in the area.
There are a few massage place but no FS, not many Japanese pro here most are rich people here, the Brazilan and japanese mix are some of the hottest babe in the world.
Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]
Quick correction:
Brazil has the largest Japanese population outside of Japan. I am sure there a number of Japanese cities in Japan with more than 1 million pop.
In Brazil, you will find japanese not only in SP state , but in Parana as well -.
Does anyone know if this girl is still around? BSK
[QUOTE=Bearsk]Does anyone know if this girl is still around? BSK[/QUOTE]
Loso69 was with her a little while back, check his Brasil reports for some contact info.
El Minetero
[url]http://bitchmaps.com/sp[/url]
I came across this map but don't know how up to date it is, surely some of them are closed.
Can someone help me out. Will be in SP just for one day, sep 5, and did not realize that weekend is a long weekend in Brazil to celebrate their independence day. So, will places be open? Girls working or everyone goes to the beach? Tried contacting cafe foto, but nobody responded via email.
Bascially, I am free Saturday afternoon (noon. 9pm as I have a midnight flight) and wanted to find the best quality experience before heading back to the states. I recognize that cafe foto is expensive, but if that is the place for the hottest girl selection, than would prefer to spend a little extra as I do not have another chance.
I have been through the reports and understand that with cafe foto, you have to take the girl out somewhere (updated nearby motel suggestions are welcome)
If Cafe Foto is closed, I have been once to a massage place in SP (3 years ago and do not remember the name) where you had a screen and could choose the girl. Place was in a non-descript white building/house in a nice part of SP. Does this ring a bell for anyone?
Thanks
You will be press for time since the girls don't start arriving at cafe photo until after 8. I suggust going to Palms thepalms.com.br its very near to photo. The 15+ girls there are plenty beautiful. Ask for the George the manager he speaks english and can recommend someone for you. 190 fee 200 for girl.
[QUOTE=Funkignitor]Any updated info on flats (apartments) in Sao Paulo.
Thanks[/QUOTE]I was wondering about this as well.
I was thinking of staying in Sao Paulo for a couple of months, and a hotel would get very pricey for that long.
Any suggestions for apartments?
[QUOTE=Freedom3]I was wondering about this as well.
I was thinking of staying in Sao Paulo for a couple of months, and a hotel would get very pricey for that long.
Any suggestions for apartments?[/QUOTE]
Yes, it's possible to rent an apê (in a flat and not in a cortiço!) for R$1,800 a month. In some cases, you'll need a «fiador» however.
[url]http://www.aluguetemporada.com.br/scripts/temas-flats-apart.cfm?Cidade=S%E3o%20Paulo[/url]
[QUOTE=Freedom3]I was wondering about this as well.
I was thinking of staying in Sao Paulo for a couple of months, and a hotel would get very pricey for that long.
Any suggestions for apartments?[/QUOTE]
You can rent flat service apartments paying a deposit and the monthly rent in advance.
A 17-year-old was being held Wednesday in Brazil for allegedly knifing thirty men to death.
The schoolgirl stunned cops by owning up to a serial killing spree that started when she was a 15-year-old.
She told detectives she wanted to confess before she turned 18 and could be tried as an adult.
The girl — too young even to be named — said she began targeting men in her home city of Sao Paulo, Brazil "for money, revenge and to bring justice".
She allegedly even smiled as she reeled off her list of victims — which is feared to make her the world's most prolific teenage serial killer.
[url]http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2592734/Girl-aged-17-knifes-30-men-to-death.html[/url]
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What a f&ckep up country. And the corrupt government in Rio is more embarassed about Boate Help.
[QUOTE=Tiradentes]A 17-year-old was being held Wednesday in Brazil for allegedly knifing thirty men to death..... What a f&ckep up country. And the corrupt government in Rio is more embarassed about Boate Help.[/QUOTE]
I'm surprised that Brazil havn't had a lot of serial killers in the history, even though the country has a large population and a lot of violence.
Comparing with US where serial killers are quite common makes US look like the real "f&ckep up country". :)
I have a long layover in Sao Paolo, never been there. Does anyone know an upscale terma not too far from the airport?
Anxious to lose my donut en Brasil (not that I am zero with Brasilians but never scored a goal on them in Brasil), I researched ad nauseaum.
Finally felt good and selected Anita/Adriely Sabatiny from various sites.
Reasons: typical Brazilian morena, some Ingles, Silicones (not my preference) and Fumante Nao, geographically close to Ave Santos.
[url]http://www.escortvip.com.br/index.php?modelo=284&acompanhante=fotos&Book-Acompanhante=Anita[/url]
[url]http://www.contatos.com.br/nome.php?nome=adrielysabatiny[/url]
So I called the number which is the same on the different sites and had a response. Time provide 1h 30m 250 real. Address Ruas Chavez Jovem Maria Lisboa in Jardines.
I got stuck walking to the place on one side of Ave 19 Juli, so was 10 minutes late but arrived at address which is an otel whose name is spelt backwards in the report title, nmr 555.
I call the ph nbr again and am told one room and i go there and knock on the door, blond women answers - Adriely - Nao. I call the number back and am directed to another floor, which would have required card - maid inserted hers and took me there. I arrive and knock several times, no answer, call the ph nbr back and am told 2 mins. 5 mins later, 3 women get out of elevator (other one was being serviced - the elevator, not the women).
3 women - short brunette girl in girl next door type clothes, [url]http://www.contatos.com.br/nome.php?nome=anapaulagutierrez[/url], a tall blonde who could have been Leticia
[url]http://www.videolove.com.br/acompanhantes-album.php?foto=553&id=57[/url], and another lady with light brown hair who spoke to me. They went in and cleaned up the room, quickly. I was ushed into what is a bigger than usually hotel room.
Amanda welcomed me (ana paula gutierrez in picture and link) - I said i was expecting Anita/Adriely - she said, no I am Amanda. I thought about splitting but she looked cute, so we showered. The upside was i needed it, she was cute, great green eyes, perfect ass, small but perfect breasts, no silicones - still classic Brasilain moreno; downsides - she was rushed from another cliente, did not speak more than a few words of English and she smoked. The latter became academic because no kissing alolowed, at least not until after we were done ... While she was nice and did all i asked she was in a rush and til 20 mins into things when I turned he on her side and started slow pounding her. After a while she started to reach for me. She seemed to build to some point short of climax, orchestrating the moves then she suddenly stopped and stood up lecturing me like a schoolteacher. She said: "You have a very nice dick and I want from behind." Always happy to oblige, Miss. She certainly liked it from behind. No anales, due to size of member she said.
I wanted to to uncover and BBBJ to finish but she would not do. She did tell me she wanted me to cum. She gave me a ball massage with HJ to climax, quite good.
I then showered and she asked me if i wanted to smoke, I said no, at which point she put the cigarettes away. She told me she is 25yo and local student in "information". After i gave her a small gift she got all kissy, kissy. She told me my body was nice especially for my age and that she wanted to take my dick to Universidad with her (not sure what that means).
So not all that I expected but did the job.
A little more time tomorrow to try and do better. I will try other options.
I suspect being a little late, I may have missed my original gal and they scrambled to cover.
A local take on the scene at nni pilut might help since it seems to be a rotating service building which is reasonably clean etc.
Its that newbie feel.
So I have several hours tomorrow afternoon to use or kill.
Suggested options:
1. Sightseeing - i have been to most sites in the last few days.
2. Garota - I have eclectic tastes as evidenced by below.
Marcela Ribeiro - Ruiva
[url]http://www.videolove.com.br/acompanhantes-album.php?id=27[/url]
Ludmyla Becker - Blonde en Consolação
[url]http://www.contatos.com.br/nome.php?nome=ludmylabecker[/url]
Melissa Pitanga (means Suriname Cherry or a form of yoga; Melissa looks stacked and cute)
[url]http://www.contatos.com.br/nome.php?nome=melissapitanga[/url]
Karina Amorim - Morena
[url]http://www.kissclass.com.br/modelos/karinaamorin.html[/url]
Gabi Sanches - pictures look seet
[url]http://www.contatos.com.br/nome.php?nome=gabi[/url]
Evelyn Gold - girls got braces on her teeth, no lingua info though
[url]http://www.contatos.com.br/nome.php?nome=evelyngold[/url]
Juliana Medeiros - Morena - cute, equipped
[url]http://www.contatos.com.br/nome.php?nome=julianamedeiros[/url]
Juliana Suzuki - Mestiza - cross between Brasilian and Japan
[url]http://www.escortvip.com.br/index.php?modelo=276&acompanhante=fotos&Book-Acompanhante=Juliana[/url]
Fernanda - Mulata
[url]http://www.mclass.com.br/scripts/mclass.dll/det?codaco=1646&retorno=0&lin=1[/url]
Any advice on selection welcomed. I will read the local forums here and provide any feedback for others.
I have to say, now that I've been running around SP for a couple years now, I always thought I loved the Colombiana, but these Brasileiras have stolen my heart.
I just walk about exploring in the daytime. Meeting garotas in stores, restaurants, on the metro, internet places, etc.
With the right, easy-going approach, they are so friendly.
Here's an e-mail i just got from a beauty I met on the metro a few weeks ago.
We went out for a coffee, chatted, got to know one another, then kept in touch afterwards.
We met up again a few days ago and she kept me trapped in my room in sexual heaven for 2-days :)
here's her last email to me:
"oi meu krido estou com muita saudade ......
eu quero te sentir novamente vc todo em mim to morrendo de
saudade e vontade de senti lo novamente no meu corpo te beijar e fazer td de novo.......
mil bjosssssssssss se cuida tá......xau"
Am I a lucky cat or what?!?! rsrsrsrsrs.
Take care meus amigos!
Ricker,
I have been curious about non pro Colombianas and about Colombia, but due to the safety factor, I have been putting off a trip to Colombia up until now, but might finally give it a try soon.
For someone like you who has had experience with both Colombianas and Brasileiras non pros, how would you compare them in terms of being approachable and overall "datability"?
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Ricker]I have to say, now that I've been running around SP for a couple years now, I always thought I loved the Colombiana, but these Brasileiras have stolen my heart.
I just walk about exploring in the daytime. Meeting garotas in stores, restaurants, on the metro, internet places, etc.
With the right, easy-going approach, they are so friendly.
Here's an e-mail i just got from a beauty I met on the metro a few weeks ago.
We went out for a coffee, chatted, got to know one another, then kept in touch afterwards.
We met up again a few days ago and she kept me trapped in my room in sexual heaven for 2-days :)
here's her last email to me:
"oi meu krido estou com muita saudade ......
eu quero te sentir novamente vc todo em mim to morrendo de
saudade e vontade de senti lo novamente no meu corpo te beijar e fazer td de novo.......
mil bjosssssssssss se cuida tá......xau"
Am I a lucky cat or what?!?! rsrsrsrsrs.
Take care meus amigos![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sprite13]Ricker,
I have been curious about non pro Colombianas and about Colombia, but due to the safety factor, I have been putting off a trip to Colombia up until now, but might finally give it a try soon.
For someone like you who has had experience with both Colombianas and Brasileiras non pros, how would you compare them in terms of being approachable and overall "datability"?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]
Hey amigo, las Colombianas, just like the Brasileiras are very approachable.
There are quite a few gringos visiting Colombia these days, but still, the single most important factor in meeting non-pro chicas is being able to speak their language.
The vast majority of guys speak basic spanish only, if any at all. The vast majority of girls speak only spanish. If you can really communicate with them and make them smile, you´ll set yourself apart and have a blast.
Obviously, the same goes for Brasil. I arrived in Brasil about 2 years ago speaking excellent spanish and very bad portuguese.
Now, as my portuguese is at the ´pretty good´ level, I´m meeting so many garotas here in Sao Paulo, I don´t have enough time to fit them all in :)
Comparing the Colombiana non-pro to the Brasileira non-pro.
In both countries, I only pursue the girls from humble, working class families.
I´m not into the high-end, high maintenance type anywhere.
Generalizing, I would say the Colombiana is quicker to ´fall in love´ with you. They are simply born to love and care for their man.
They, however, from my experiences, also are quicker tempered and more jealous and drama filled.
I have found the Brasileiras to be more easy-going and care free in general.
The more time I spend in Brasil, mostly Sao Paulo, the more I dig the garotas and the less I feel like traveling to Colombia.
I enjoy the big city of Sao Paulo. Of course I don´t drive in it´s heavy traffic. I either walk or take the Metro everywhere with an occassional taxi.
I love that a visit to the beach is very easy from SP and I dig the people here.
Bottom line from me and my personal experience:
The girls from both countries are fantastic, I just happen to find the less drama-filled garotas of Brasil to be more my style.
Whichever place you visit though, speaking the language is the key.
Boa sorte ...
Hi Bearsk,
I noticed you listed Melissa Pitanga as one garota you might look up. I'd try her too if I was there. She has done a few pornos, in case you didn't know. Seems to do anal quite well. Take a look at [url]www.tube8[/url], or youporn, etc and search for her videos. Quite a nice package.
Maybe all of them do pornos!
[QUOTE=Funkignitor]Do hotels and flats in Sao Paulo have roaches?[/QUOTE]
I've never seen any.
[QUOTE=Funkignitor]Do hotels and flats in Sao Paulo have roaches?[/QUOTE]
No, the city of Sao Paulo is 100% cockroach-free.
[QUOTE=Funkignitor]Do hotels and flats in Sao Paulo have roaches?[/QUOTE]
Have you seen the buildings in SP? some 20 storey high minimum...do you a think a roach will climb that high? :)) Worst case scenario stops at first floor.
Seriously speaking, have not seen any.
The town has gone through major cleaning process in the last 4-5 years. As much as you can keep tidy a town with a 19mill (official) population. But it is in general a very good standard. Might look a bit old in some areas, but that does not have anything to do with cleaning. I wish some more towns in the so called "civilized world" have that standard!
[QUOTE=Sperto]No, the city of Sao Paulo is 100% cockroach-free.[/QUOTE]
I'm sure dear Sperto that you intended this as a joke. In fact, according to a survey made in São Paulo there's 200 cockroaches for each inhabitant. And what is the exact population of Sampa? 17, 20, 22 million? It means a lot of cockroaches...3 billions?
Here's a quotation:
- Segundo um levantamento realizado em São Paulo, pelo Instituto Nacional de Pesquisas Biológicas, há 200 baratas / habitante, na grande São Paulo.
My Source: [url]http://www.ambientebrasil.com.br/composer.php3?base=./urbano/index.html&conteudo=./urbano/pragas/baratas.html[/url]
This being said, I've never seen any cockroaches in my flat or hotel rooms. In fact, I've seen many in New York but never in Brazil (which is a more tropical weather than New York). The worst that I have seen in one of my flat was small ants.
According to this other source, 70% of the houses in São Paulo are infested, mainly in Centro and in the Zona Norte.
[url]http://pt.shvoong.com/medicine-and-health/epidemiology-public-health/1879878-praga-das-baratas/[/url]
Indeed, an Emmy worthy performance in the this one:
[url]http://www.tube8.com/latina/melissa-pitanga/115335/[/url]
It IS me with her of course.
[QUOTE=Papae Noel]Hi Bearsk,
I noticed you listed Melissa Pitanga as one garota you might look up. I'd try her too if I was there. She has done a few pornos, in case you didn't know. Seems to do anal quite well. Take a look at [url]www.tube8[/url], or youporn, etc and search for her videos. Quite a nice package.
Maybe all of them do pornos![/QUOTE]
I am partial to the colombians only because they have the best breasts in the world but in terms of pussy performance I suppose both countries are comparable.
I would agree that colombian girls seem more emotionally open and really form an emotional connection quicker, while some brazileras have more of a "sex as sport" feeling.
Can't lose either way.
[QUOTE=Ricker]I have to say, now that I've been running around SP for a couple years now, I always thought I loved the Colombiana, but these Brasileiras have stolen my heart.
I just walk about exploring in the daytime. Meeting garotas in stores, restaurants, on the metro, internet places, etc.
With the right, easy-going approach, they are so friendly.
Here's an e-mail i just got from a beauty I met on the metro a few weeks ago.
We went out for a coffee, chatted, got to know one another, then kept in touch afterwards.
We met up again a few days ago and she kept me trapped in my room in sexual heaven for 2-days :)
here's her last email to me:
"oi meu krido estou com muita saudade
eu quero te sentir novamente vc todo em mim to morrendo de
saudade e vontade de senti lo novamente no meu corpo te beijar e fazer td de novo.......
mil bjosssssssssss se cuida tá......xau"
Am I a lucky cat or what?!?! rsrsrsrsrs.
Take care meus amigos![/QUOTE]
Is Melissa based in RJ or MG?
I wish she was here in SP I would definitely look her up.
[QUOTE=Papae Noel]Hi Bearsk,
I noticed you listed Melissa Pitanga as one garota you might look up. I'd try her too if I was there. She has done a few pornos, in case you didn't know. Seems to do anal quite well. Take a look at [url]www.tube8[/url], or youporn, etc and search for her videos. Quite a nice package.
Maybe all of them do pornos![/QUOTE]
Logistics almost always entails that I arrive in SP on a Sunday and everywhere is closed.
This time I found out that a couple of prives were open:
one at Av. Brigadeiro Luis Antonio 4554 - Jardim Paulista Tel 11 3887 4199 &
Al. jau 480 - Jardim Paulista, tel 11 3284 7981
I went to the first - R120 for the hour plus tip. No clockwatching. Two girls available - one a 6 the other a 7. I went with the 7 - Patti - who had a great attitude.
This place is 20 metres from Hotel Nikki, which hosts the Sky Bar - a must visit place for spectacula views.
Session was fine - some passionate kissing, lots of laughter, BBBJ and covered mish. Came twice in an hour.
Good girl - claims to have been there 5 days and will not be around too much longer.
She is listed on several websites as being in SP
[url]http://www.contatos.com.br/nome.php?nome=melissapitanga[/url]
[url]http://www.abusado.com.br/melissapitanga/[/url]
You may care to feedback to the Board. Her videos indicate she can take a q guy through the gears!
[QUOTE=Chan Nimal]Is Melissa based in RJ or MG?
I wish she was here in SP I would definitely look her up.[/QUOTE]
Listo.
I will call her before I leave this week.
Definitely a report will be given to the board! Thanks.
[QUOTE=Bearsk]She is listed on several websites as being in SP
[url]http://www.contatos.com.br/nome.php?nome=melissapitanga[/url]
[url]http://www.abusado.com.br/melissapitanga/[/url]
You may care to feedback to the Board. Her videos indicate she can take a q guy through the gears![/QUOTE]
Unfortunately, the # listed rings straight to voice mail.
I'll have to try and see her when I'm back in a couple of months.
[QUOTE=Chan Nimal]Listo.
I will call her before I leave this week.
Definitely a report will be given to the board! Thanks.[/QUOTE]
I have been asked to make public that Vivian is back in business.
Her new webpage is [url]http://vivian.hot.nafoto.net/[/url] and contact details are there.
In the past I had reported about her.
She is complete and recommendable if you are interested in quality service.
Hey,
Does anyone know what "pisada na bola" means? It shows up on gpguia.net in some reports.
Thanks,
Stinger
[QUOTE=Stinger]Hey,
Does anyone know what "pisada na bola" means? It shows up on gpguia.net in some reports.
Thanks,
Stinger[/QUOTE]
Imagine you are playing soccer and you step over the ball...
"Pisada na bola" is something like a bad step. "Things went wrong"
Guys,
I just returned from a 8 day trip to SP. If it would be of interest to you I could post reports in my usual style.
GK
Consider this a formal written invitation. Educate and broaden us.
[QUOTE=Genghis Khan]Guys,
I just returned from a 8 day trip to SP. If it would be of interest to you I could post reports in my usual style.
GK[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Genghis Khan]Guys,
I just returned from a 8 day trip to SP. If it would be of interest to you I could post reports in my usual style.
GK[/QUOTE]
Please do, I miss your reports and I wasn't able to visit s/p this year.
Thanks,
q
Please report.
We appreciate reading about SP's finest.
RW
Even though I have been returning to SP at least once every year, I have not found it worth it to put in all the work to write reports on this forum because of the feedback I get that my activities are not all that interesting to the members on this forum based on the cost of what I do. This trip was different since I decided to drop most of the fancy restaurants, leave my suits at home, bring a limited amount of money and let a Brazilian very well known to the mid-end of the SP mongering scene take me around to finally find out if less money and more focus on performance than appearance would give me a better time.
I landed at Guarulhos on a Thursday evening at 16:40. Very little trafic at the airport, no line at the passport and imigration control had me out of the customs and finding my regular driver Luiz wating for me outside in the arrival hall in no time. Luiz took me first to a place where I could exchange my USD to Reais before we dropped by my Brazilian friend Vatel69s apartment. Vatel69 joined me to my hotel where I checked in, showered and changed clothes. He also made sure with the reception at the hotel that it would be no problem and no charge to bring girls to my room. The hotel this time wasn't my usual Gran Estanplaza in Berrini but the Estanplaza Paulista in Jardins. The hotel is not nearly in the same class as the Gran Estanplaza but its location close to Avenida Paulista was very practical because of the proximety to Vatel69s apartment.
During my last two visits to SP I have mostly spent my time at two clubs - Cafe Photo and Garden Club. Last trip was in June last year and since then a lot has changed at Garden Club. It has changed its name to W Garden. The ownership and staff are changed. If you liked the now extinct W.E. on Rua Peixoto Gomide, W Garden would now be the place to visit in SP. Ownership is the same as W.E. and the staff is also partially the same. What is changed however is that there are no rooms on site to bring the girls and the girls work freelance. They are no longer employed by the club. This basicly means that you are free to negotiate the price with the girls. You will however have to pay an exit fee to take the girls out in addition to the entrance fee to get in. Because of this the total price will in most cases end up a little higher than at W.E.
This night I had planned to go to W Garden but wanted to have dinner first and Vatel69 and I decided to go to the Japanese restaurant Aizome in Jardins. I visited this restaurant the last time I was in SP too and they serve very good, traditional Japanese food here. They specialize more in hot dishes and a little less in sashimi and sushi than most of the other Japanese restaurants in SP that I really like. The restaurant itself looks both on the inside and outside like a normal residential house and except for private rooms on two different floors most diners are served at the small bar outside the kithcen. Vatel69 and I had the tasting menu and sake. It was a good meal in a nice and comfortable environment.
After the meal Luiz picked us up and we headed for W Garden. W Garden is located at Rua Alvorada 550 in Vila Olimpia. It is the same location as the original W and Garden Club. Once we entered we were immideatly greeted welcome by the owners Washington and Edson and the rest of the staff who had no problems recognizing me and remembering my name even though it must be at least two years since I saw some of them last time.
We were shown to a table right beside the entrance to the inside area where you have a really great view of the comings and goings of all the girls. We entered around 9 o'clock which used to be around the best time to arrive at W.E. but it was really slow and looked early. After a quick check with one of the garcons we found out that things worked a little different at W Garden. Girls arrive a little later and closing time is around 1 or 2 compared to midnight at W.E.
We ordred a bottle of JW Red Label and started scouting for girls. Several girls sat down and started chatting but none really appealed to me. My Portuguese has improved over the years. Although it still is very basic I now usually have no problems having a conversation with the girls in Portuguese. To follow a conversation between two Brasilieiras on the other hand still is a little too much for me. I don't have the time or opportunity to practice my Portuguese during my time outside SP.
The first girl who sat down was a small, slim morena. She was very friendly and qute but not my type looks wise. A couple of girls obviously knew Vatel69 and also joined our table for a quick chat.
I must have talked to and sent away at least four girls when a small group of girls entered the club. I really liked two of them. Both girls were loiras with long hair, one wore jeans and a black top the other wore jeans with a low cut light brown top which she had tied up on her back. Her firm, tight stomack with a diamond piercing was showing below her top and her back was naked except for the two tied ends to her top. It was obvious she wore no bra to support her BIG and obviously enhanced tits.
I had just sent away my fourth girl and when these girls entered. I whispered in Vatel69s ear that I thought that my girl for the night had arrived. I would have been pleased with either one of the two but the girl with the jeans and black top seemed at first as the my top choice. The problem was that this girl was pulled off right away by one of the garcons and shown to a table with three other customers. The other girl with the big tits went into the staff room.
Another girl sat down at my seat. Again this was a girl I was not interested in taking out but I have learned over the years that it always is a good thing to try to be nice to all the girls. They talk among each other and if you behave like an asshole to someone it usually bites you back in the ass when you find someone you really like because she has gotten the impression from the one you misbehaved to that you are not worth their time. So I spent a few minutes talking to her before sending her away telling her that although she was a nice girl I was really looking for someone else that evening.
When she had left both my number one and two choices were available and hanging around the bar trying to get other customers attention. Vatel69 asked me which girls I had talked about and I pointed towards the bar area where both had been standing. Now only the one with the big tits were there. My number one choice had disappeared somewhere. Vatel69 waved the girl with the big tits over. I tried to tell him that it was not the right girl but it was too late. The girl with the big tits came over to our table and sat down introducing herself as Evelyn by placing a big wet kiss on my chin. Vatel69 asked in my ear if it was okay and told him it really was no problem. When Evelyn came closer it became apparent to me that this girl was really beautiful. She had full lips, sparkling blue eyes and a beautiful smile with a perfect row of pearly whites. It was however the first words she spoke to me that had me convinced. "I only like it in the ass". How could I refuse such a honest and beautiful girl sharing my taste for pleasure.
Evelyn turned out to be a really affecionate, friendly girl with no inhabitions but still not too aggressive. She had exactly the right personality and temperament that I like. Her big tits and passion for anal sex was really only a bonus. I would have brought her back to the hotel even without those bonuses. She also told me that she travelled every three months to Milano to work there. She would return to Milano that Sunday. She was a Gaucha she told me.
We agreed on a price for R$600 for the night and asked for the check which ended up at R$755,-. It included the JW Red Label bottle, a number of Red Bulls, my entrance fee of R$190 and her exit fee of R$150. I called Luiz and when he called me to tell me he was waiting outside, I waived Vatel69 goodbye and left with Evelyn.
In the car Evelyn snuggled up to me and gave what basicly must be called a tongue fuck all the way to the hotel.
When we arrived at the hotel we just went straight passed the reception and into the elevator. Nobody asked for her signatre or ID.
In the room she first entered the shower and when she was finished I did. Her body was amazing. She had a firm bubble butt with nice long legs in addition to that really tight stomach with a pierced navel and those really big tits. The tits were really well done and actually felt very natural. They were not that hard and plastic like most fake tits are.
I kind of know some small tricks with my tongue that usually make the girls I bring back to the hotel perform really well because I usually manage to get them off. Girls having been screend properly first and having a nice attitude and passion usually become really eager to please after this treatment. Even though every sign about Evelyn told me she would have been performing very well either way, she became wild after I had brought her off. She motioned for me to lay on my back and wanted to return the oral favour. Her BBBJ was really great and even though I am extremely difficult to get off, she didn't stop until she had managed to do so. It took her at least 45 minutes. I was trying to pull out of her mouth right before I finished but she would have none of it and popped me back into her mouth where I unloaded. She didn't swallow though and when I had finished she retired to the bathroom to get rid of her mouthfull. When she returned whe was ready to proceed to her promise of anal sex but I was completely drained of energy and was already half asleep.
I don't know what time it was when I woke up but she was sitting on the couch in my room watching TV and asked me if I was ready for her ass. Even though I really wanted to I knew I would not be abe to. I was exhausted after the long flight and all energy was drained from my body. So I told her that I really wanted to but would not be able to and that she actually did not have to wait until the morning as agreed to leave if she prefered to leave at that moment. So after she had left her phone number for me, I paid her and sent her on her way into the night while I went happily back to a deep much needed sleep.
GK
GK,
You are really the HIGH END mongering expert of Sao Paulo and maybe all Brazil.
Great report!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[QUOTE=Genghis Khan]Even though I have been returning to SP at least once every year, I have not found it worth it to put in all the work to write reports on this forum because of the feedback I get that my activities are not all that interesting to the members on this forum based on the cost of what I do. This trip was different since I decided to drop most of the fancy restaurants, leave my suits at home, bring a limited amount of money and let a Brazilian very well known to the mid-end of the SP mongering scene take me around to finally find out if less money and more focus on performance than appearance would give me a better time.
I landed at Guarulhos on a Thursday evening at 18:40. Very little trafic at the airport, no line at the passport and immigration control had me out of the customs and finding my regular driver Luiz wating for me outside in the arrival hall in no time. Luiz took me first to a place where I could exchange my USD to Reais before we dropped by my Brazilian friend Vatel69s appartement. Vatel69 joined me to my hotel where I checked in, showered and changed clothes. He also made sure with the reception at the hotel that it would be no problem and no charge to bring girls to my room. The hotel this time wasn't my usual Gran Estanplaza in Berrini but the Estanplaza Paulista in Jardins. The hotel is not nearly in the same class as the Gran Estanplaza but its location close to Avenida Paulista was very practical because of the proximety to Vatel69s appartement.
During my last two visits to SP I have mostly spent my time at two clubs - Cafe Photo and Garden Club. Last trip was in June last year and since then a lot has changed at Garden Club. It has changed its name to W Garden. The ownership and staff are changed. If you liked the now extinct W.E. on Rua Peixoto Gomide, W Garden would now be the place to visit in SP. Ownership is the same as W.E. and the staff is also partially the same. What is changed however is that there are no rooms on site to bring the girls and the girls work freelance. They are no longer employed by the club. This basicly means that you are free to negotiate the price with the girls. You will however have to pay an exit fee to take the girls out in addition to the entrance fee to get in. Because of this the total price will in most cases end up a little higher than at W.E.
This night I had planned to go to W Garden but wanted to have dinner first and Vatel69 and I decided to go to the Japanese restaurant Aizome in Jardins. I visited this restaurant the last time I was in SP too and they serve very good, traditional Japanese food here. They specialize more in hot dishes and a little less in sashimi and sushi than most of the other Japanese restaurants in SP that I really like. The restaurant itself looks both on the inside and outside like a normal residential house and except for private rooms on two different floors most diners are served at the small bar outside the kithcen. Vatel69 and I had the tasting menu. It was a good meal in a nice and cosy environment.
After the meal Luiz picked us up and we headed for W Garden. W Garden is located at Rua Alvorada 550 in Vila Olimpia. It is the same location as the original W and Garden Club. Once we entered we were immideatly greeted welcome by the owners Washington and Edson and the rest of the staff who had no problems recognizing me and remembering my name even though it must be at least two years since I saw some of them last time.
We were shown to a table right beside the entrance to the inside area where you have a really great view of the comings and goings of all the girls. We entered around 9 o'clock which used to be around the best time to arrive at W.E. but it was really slow and looked early. After a quick check with one of the garcons we found out that things worked a little different at W Garden. Girls arrive a little later and closing time is around 1 or 2 compared to midnight at W.E.
We ordred a bottle of JW Red Label and started scouting for girls. Several girls sat down and started chatting but none really appealed to me. My Portoguese has improved over the years. Although it still is very basic I now usually have no problems having a conversation with the girls in Portuguese. To follow a conversation between two Brasilieiras on the other hand still is a little too much for me. I don't have the time or opportunity to practice my Portuguese during my time outside SP.
The first girl who sat down was a small, slim morena. She was very friendly and qute but not my type looks wise. A couple of girls obviously knew Vatel69 and also joined our table for a quick chat.
I must have talked to and sent away at least four girls when a small group of girls entered the club. I really liked two of them. Both girls were loiras with long hair, one wore jeans and a black top the other wore jeans with a low cut light brown top which she had tied up on her back. Her firm, tight stomack with a diamond piercing was showing below her top and her back was naked except for the two tied ends to her top. It was obvious she wore no bra to support her BIG and obviously enhanced tits.
I had just sent away my fourth girl and when these girls entered I whispered in Vatel69s ear that I thought that my girl for the night had arrived. I would have been pleased with either one of the two but the girl with the jeans and black top seemed at first as the my top choice. The problem was that this girl was pulled off right away by one of the garcons and shown to a table with three other customers. The other girl with the big tits went into the staff room.
Another girl sat down at my seat. Again this was a girl I was not interested in taking out but I have learned over the years that it always is a good thing to try to be nice to all the girls. They talk among each other and if you behave like an asshole to someone it usually bites you back in the ass when you find someone you really like because she has gotten the impression for the one you misbehaved that you are not worth their time. So I spent a few minutes talking to her before sending her away telling her that although she was a nice girl I was really looking for someone else that evening.
When she had left both my number one and two choices were available and hanging around the bar trying to get other customers attention. Vatel69 asked me which girls I had talked about and I pointed towards the bar area where both had been standing. Now only the one with the big tits were there. My number one choice had dissapeared somewhere. Vatel69 waved the girl with the big tits over. I tried to tell him that it was not the right girl but it was too late. The girl with the big tits came over to our table and sat down introducing herself as Evelyn by placing a big wet kiss on my chin. Vatel69 asked in my ear if it was okay and told him it really was no problem. When Evelyn came closer it became apparent to me that this girl was really beautiful. She had full lips, sparkling blue eyes and a beautiful smile with a perfect row of pearly whites. It was however the first words she spoke to me that had me convinced. "I only like it in the ass". How could I refuse such a honest and beautiful girl sharing my taste for pleasure.
Evelyn turned out to be a really affecionate, friendly girl with no inhabitions but still not too aggressive. She had exactly the right personality and temperament that I like. Her big tits and passion for anal sex was really only a bonus. I would have brought her back to the hotel even without those bonuses. She also told me that she travelled every three months to Milano to work there. She would return to Milano that Sunday. She was a Gaucha she told me.
We agreed on a price for R$600 for the night and asked for the check which ended up at R$755,- which included the JW Red Label bottle, a number of Red Bulls, my entrance fee of R$190 and her exit fee of R$150. I called Luiz and when he called me to tell me he was waiting outside, I waived Vatel69 goodbye and left with Evelyn.
In the car Evelyn snuggled up to me and gave what must basicly must be called a tongue fuck all the way to the hotel.
When we arrived at the hotel we just went straight passed the reception and into the elevator. Nobody asked for her signatre or ID.
In the room she first entered the shower and when she was finished I did. Her body was amazing. She had a firm bubble butt with nice long legs in addition to that really tight stomach with a pierced navel and those really big tits. The tits were really well done and actually felt very natural. They were not that hard and plastic like most fake tits are.
I do know some small magic tricks with my togue that usually make the girls I bring back to the hotel perform really well because I usually manage to get them off first. Even though every sign about Evelyn told me she would have been performing very well either way, she became wild after I had brought her off. She motioned for me to lay on my back and wanted to return the oral favour. Her BBBJ was really great and even though I am extremely difficult to get off, she didn't stop until she had managed to do so. It took her at least 45 minutes. I was trying to pull out of her mouth right before I finished but she would have none of it and popped me back into her mouth where I unloaded. She didn't swallow though and when I had finished she retired to the bathroom to get rid of her mouthfull. When she returned whe was ready to proceed to her promise of anal sex but I was completely drained of energy and was already half asleep.
I don't know what time it was when I woke up but she was sitting on the couch in my room watching TV and asked me if I was ready for her ass. Even though I really wanted to I knew I would not be abe to. I was exhausted after the long flight and all energy was drained from my body. So I told her that I really wanted to but would not be able to and that she actually did not have to wait until the morning as agreed to leave if she prefered to leave at that moment. So after she had left her phone number for me, I paid her and sent her on her way into the night while I went happily back to a deep much needed sleep.
GK[/QUOTE]
After Evelyn had left I went back to sleep and slept until late next morning. Vatel69 called me around 11 to check how everything had turned out. I told him that I was very pleased with Evelyn and her performance.
Like I wrote initially in my report from Day 1, this trip was planned a bit differently than my other trips to SP. I had allowed Vatel69 to show me the more mid level SP mongering. Today we had planned to set up an afternoon party/orgy at a motel with three girls, Vatel69, myself and a SP local I will call El Mariachi on the Brazillian forums. Vatel69 and I were meeting El Mariachi and one of the girls at the Italian restaurarnt Cosi for lunch and then we would pick up the other girls at a metro station close by, go to a grocery store to pick up supplies for the party and go to the motel. Since it was a Friday only Cafe Photo of my usual hangouts would be open anyway and Fridays are not the best day at Cafe Photo.
El Mariachi who is somewhat of a swingers club and party expert in SP had used his knowledge to get us a great deal on a big suite at one of the best motels in SP.
After I had showered and shaved Luiz picked me up outside my hotel. Vatel69 was already in the backseat of his car. We drove off to the restaurant where Luiz let us off and left us. We were shown to a table in the back of the restaurant. After about ten mintes waiting El Mariachi showed up and then the girl Ju. Ju was a small, slim and fit morena with big breasts. Unfortunatly neither El Mariachi nor Ju spoke any English so I had a difficult time hanging on to their conversation but I really didn't mind that much since I was a bit tired. The food at Cosi was good although I do not exactly remember what I had now except for the two caipirinhas and the glass of wine.
After the meal El Mariachi, Ju and I went into one taxi and headed for a grocery store to buy supplies for the party while Vatel69 took off in anohter taxi to meet the last two girls at a metro station. The taxi ride to the motel was quite long and the grocery store was close to the motel. I waited in the taxi while El Mariachi and Ju took care of the shopping. When they returned we drove off to the motel where Vatel69 and two morenas was waiting outside. The two girls were both morenas. Both were taller than Ju. One of the girls had a beautiful face with a nice bronze skin color. She looked sort of like a typical carioca. Her name was Vanja. The other girl had lighter skin color and had pulled her hair back in a pony tail. She had slightly Asian features to her face. Both were a little taller than Ju.
We paid the entrance and were shown into the two-floor suite. It had a jacuzzi and a small bed on the upper floor and a bigger bed and a small seating area on the lower floor. Both floors had big flat screen TVs showing porn.
Vatel69 informed me that Ju was picked because she was a blow job specialist, Agatha was picked because she was an anal specialist and Vanja was picked because Vatel69 thought she might be my type looks wise. The girls had basicly been instructed to give me all they had.
We spread the accessories bought at the grocery store out on the counter in the seating area. It was mostly some finger food and drinks to keep the energy level high and condoms. We had also brought a bottle of whisky.
The fun started with Vatel69 and Vanja having fun on the bed in the second floor while El Mariachi and Agatha entered the jacuzzi also on the second floor. Ju took my hand led me to a chair in the seating area on the first floor where she started to give me a massage to my neck and back. After that she led me to the big bed undressed me and herself while starting to kiss me. She seemed a little tense so I asked her to lay down on her back and let me try to my best. It didn't take long before my oral activities had her very wet and moaning. Within a short time Vatel69 joined us and tried to get some head from Ju but she had problems concentrating on that while I was giving her my tongue. After about 10 minutes she orgasmed quite heavily. She needed some time before recovering and then she motioned for me to turn on my back where she proceeded to give me a BBBJ. Agatha who had watched from the seating area came to our bed, removed her rope sat down on my face. Ju gave great head but soon moved on and straddled me. Agatha orgasmed once or twice while riding my face and while Ju rode me hard. After about fifteen minutes of that action Ju was tired and got off surprised that she hadn't been able to get me off. So Agatha took over and started giving me head. She also gave me a great BBBJ but I still was not able to get off and we all needed a break.
The afternoon proceeded with changing partners and having four or five sessions each of us. We took small breaks in between the sessions to shower and have a few drinks and snacks to recover our energy.
My next session was on the second floor with Ju where I once again managed to get her off orally. This was the longest and best session I had this day. Ju nearly got me off but after at least 45 minutes we stopped and proceeded down to the others in the seating area for a break.
My final session started off with Vanja who gave me a nice BBBJ before she wanted to try me oral sex. She had noticed that Agatha and Ju had gotten off from that and wanted to try herself. Aatha joined us and gave me a BBBJ while I serviced Vanja. This session was an oral only and after Vanja had gotten off I called it off because I was sensing that I it would not be able to get off that day.
My balls were however aching without the releaf I needed so I told them that I wanted to take one of the girls to dinner and then back to my hotel. Who was up for the task of getting me off? Agatha and Ju wanted to join me and I chose Ju.
After having showered we were picked up by Luiz outside. He took Vanja and Agatha to the metro station. Then El Mariachi, Vatel69, Ju and I proceeded to Fogo de Chao for dinner. After dinner El Mariachi and Vatel69 took a seperte taxi while Luiz took Ju and me to the hotel.
At the hotel Ju and I again passed right by the reception without her having to sign in and took the elevator straight up to my room. Inside the room Ju and I showered seperatly before heading for the bed. I managed to get her off a third time by giving her oral sex and then she tried really hard to get me off too. However after about two hours of sex we were exhausted and I wasn't able to finish. We both fell deeply asleep.
GK
Hey Genghis,
Great report!
On the second day, what was the price of the party?
[QUOTE=Genghis Khan]Even though I have been returning to SP at least once every year,..........................
................ So after she had left her phone number for me, I paid her and sent her on her way into the night while I went happily back to a deep much needed sleep.
GK[/QUOTE]
this is hell of a report (should really go into the Distinction area too!) and just misses the pictures:) but we know we can't always win. LOL
I bit on the expensive side, but I rate the price is appropriate to the level of service and the quality of the girl look, so.. who are we to judge a price?
It looks we are going to have quite "some" reports coming from what I see under :)
Thanks for sharing the experience and the time to write this down.
[QUOTE=Genghis Khan]
... We agreed on a price for R$600 for the night and asked for the check which ended up at R$755,-. It included the JW Red Label bottle, a number of Red Bulls, my entrance fee of R$190 and her exit fee of R$150 ... [/QUOTE]
Enjoyed your report GK.
Though those prices are way above my league of play, it was interesting reading.
Fact is, SP is a great city for women.
From high end to low end, GDPs to normal garotas, there are lots of avenues for fun.
I've found my niche in SP, meeting absolutely beautiful girls, who don't even know how beautiful they are.
Simple, humble girls, but some in looks that rival those from the upscale - high price clubs, though without the high price tag.
I'll make a report here shortly with some fotos.
Thanks again for your report :)
[QUOTE=Stinger]Hey,Does anyone know what "pisada na bola" means? It shows up on gpguia.net in some reports.
Thanks,
Stinger[/QUOTE]
It means someone messed up or f'****d up. In the Gp***a context, it means the garota did not perform anywhere near the expected or messed up realy badly.
[QUOTE=Pelicano]It means someone messed up or f'****d up. In the Gp***a context, it means the garota did not perform anywhere near the expected or messed up realy badly.[/QUOTE]
Not only that but, by extension, it may even means that she simply didn't show up when you were supposed to meet her.
[QUOTE=Sui Generis]Not only that but, by extension, it may even means that she simply didn't show up when you were supposed to meet her.[/QUOTE]It is the opposite of sho de bola wich means, in slang.
It is the shit or it is great.
Genghis: I for one really enjoy your reports. While your wallet exceeds what I typically enjoy in Sao Paulo, I still want to hear your high end exploits and wonder what if. My usual haunts are cafe photo and bomboa, but not with your frequency. I also enjoy hearing about the high end restaurants, etc. From your adventures.
Keep the good stuff coming.
[QUOTE=Genghis Khan]After Evelyn had left I went back to sleep and slept until late next morning. Vatel69 called me around 11 to check how everything had turned out. I told him that I was very pleased with Evelyn and her performance.
Like I wrote initially in my report from Day 1, this trip was planned a bit differently than my other trips to SP. I had allowed Vatel69 to show me the more mid level SP mongering. Today we had planned to set up an afternoon party/orgy at a motel with three girls, Vatel69, myself and a SP local I will call El Mariachi on the Brazillian forums. Vatel69 and I were meeting El Mariachi and one of the girls at the Italian restaurarnt Cosi for lunch and then we would pick up the other girls at a metro station close by, go to a grocery store to pick up supplies for the party and go to the motel. Since it was a Friday only Cafe Photo of my usual hangouts would be open anyway and Fridays are not the best day at Cafe Photo.
El Mariachi who is somewhat of a swingers club and party expert in SP had used his knowledge to get us a great deal on a big suite at one of the best motels in SP.
After I had showered and shaved Luiz picked me up outside my hotel. Vatel69 was already in the backseat of his car. We drove off to the restaurant where Luiz let us off and left us. We were shown to a table in the back of the restaurant. After about ten mintes waiting El Mariachi showed up and then the girl Ju. Ju was a small, slim and fit morena with big breasts. Unfortunatly neither El Mariachi nor Ju spoke any English so I had a difficult time hanging on to their conversation but I really didn't mind that much since I was a bit tired. The food at Cosi was good although I do not exactly remember what I had now except for the two caipirinhas and the glass of wine.
After the meal El Mariachi, Ju and I went into one taxi and headed for a grocery store to buy supplies for the party while Vatel69 took off in anohter taxi to meet the last two girls at a metro station. The taxi ride to the motel was quite long and the grocery store was close to the motel. I waited in the taxi while El Mariachi and Ju took care of the shopping. When they returned we drove off to the motel where Vatel69 and two morenas was waiting outside. The two girls were both morenas. Both were taller than Ju. One of the girls had a beautiful face with a nice bronze skin color. She looked sort of like a typical carioca. Her name was Vanja. The other girl had lighter skin color and had pulled her hair back in a pony tail. She had slightly Asian features to her face. Both were a little taller than Ju.
We paid the entrance and were shown into the two-floor suite. It had a jacuzzi and a small bed on the upper floor and a bigger bed and a small seating area on the lower floor. Both floors had big flat screen TVs showing porn.
Vatel69 informed me that Ju was picked because she was a blow job specialist, Agatha was picked because she was an anal specialist and Vanja was picked because Vatel69 thought she might be my type looks wise. The girls had basicly been instructed to give me all they had.
We spread the accessories bought at the grocery store out on the counter in the seating area. It was mostly some finger food and drinks to keep the energy level high and condoms. We had also brought a bottle of whisky.
The fun started with Vatel69 and Vanja having fun on the bed in the second floor while El Mariachi and Agatha entered the jacuzzi also on the second floor. Ju took my hand led me to a chair in the seating area on the first floor where she started to give me a massage to my neck and back. After that she led me to the big bed undressed me and herself while starting to kiss me. She seemed a little tense so I asked her to lay down on her back and let me try to my best. It didn't take long before my oral activities had her very wet and moaning. Within a short time Vatel69 joined us and tried to get some head from Ju but she had problems concentrating on that while I was giving her my tongue. After about 10 minutes she orgasmed quite heavily. She needed some time before recovering and then she motioned for me to turn on my back where she proceeded to give me a BBBJ. Agatha who had watched from the seating area came to our bed, removed her rope sat down on my face. Ju gave great head but soon moved on and straddled me. Agatha orgasmed once or twice while riding my face and while Ju rode me hard. After about fifteen minutes of that action Ju was tired and got off surprised that she hadn't been able to get me off. So Agatha took over and started giving me head. She also gave me a great BBBJ but I still was not able to get off and we all needed a break.
The afternoon proceeded with changing partners and having four or five sessions each of us. We took small breaks in between the sessions to shower and have a few drinks and snacks to recover our energy.
My next session was on the second floor with Ju where I once again managed to get her off orally. This was the longest and best session I had this day. Ju nearly got me off but after at least 45 minutes we stopped and proceeded down to the others in the seating area for a break.
My final session started off with Vanja who gave me a nice BBBJ before she wanted to try me oral sex. She had noticed that Agatha and Ju had gotten off from that and wanted to try herself. Aatha joined us and gave me a BBBJ while I serviced Vanja. This session was an oral only and after Vanja had gotten off I called it off because I was sensing that I it would not be able to get off that day.
My balls were however aching without the releaf I needed so I told them that I wanted to take one of the girls to dinner and then back to my hotel. Who was up for the task of getting me off? Agatha and Ju wanted to join me and I chose Ju.
After having showered we were picked up by Luiz outside. He took Vanja and Agatha to the metro station. Then El Mariachi, Vatel69, Ju and I proceeded to Fogo de Chao for dinner. After dinner El Mariachi and Vatel69 took a seperte taxi while Luiz took Ju and me to the hotel.
At the hotel Ju and I again passed right by the reception without her having to sign in and took the elevator straight up to my room. Inside the room Ju and I showered seperatly before heading for the bed. I managed to get her off a third time by giving her oral sex and then she tried really hard to get me off too. However after about two hours of sex we were exhausted and I wasn't able to finish. We both fell deeply asleep.
GK[/QUOTE]
After Ju had left and I had slept a bit more I woke up, showered and took a taxi to a restaurant close by called Dui. Its the new restaurant of a famous young chef called Bel Coelho. She has been working in Europe for a couple of years after she closed her previous SP restaurant Sabuji. The restaurant has two areas. One big tapas and snack area downstairs and one smaller gourmet and dinner area upstairs. I chose to eat at the upper floor. I had two small tapas courses (truffled mashed potatoes and Spanish bellota ham), a foie gras starter and tuna as the main course in addtion to two caipirinhas. The total bill was R$225,-.
After the meal I took a taxi back to the hotel where I met Vatel69 and El Mariachi. Vatel69 had set up an appointment for me at his hairdresser so we hailed a cab and went to to have my haircut.
When that was taken care of we wanted to go somewhere to have some light snacks and drinks while we waited for this evenings football match on the TV between Argentina and Brazil to be shown. First we tried to go to Porto Rubaiyat but when the taxi pulled up outside there was a long line and the people told us it was a three hours waiting line. We decided to move on an try another of my favourite bars - Bar Mare Alta in Vila Olimpia. This is an oyster and seafood bar with great drinks and nice eyecandy. When we arrived at Rua Quata it turned out that Bar Mare Alta had closed and a new bar had opened in its place. It didn't appeal to us. Vatel69 then suggested we try the best bar in town for caipirinhas and we headed for Bar Veloso in Vila Madaleina. When we arrived it was crowded but we thankfully managed to get a table inside the bar and moved to a table outside when one became vacant. If you are into caipirinhas I would highly recomend you try this place. The house special caipirinha is with a fruit called jabuticaba and that is really good. [url]http://colunistas.ig.com.br/bebidinhas/2008/08/18/a-melhor-caipirinha-de-sao-paulo/[/url]
The afternoon passed while one caipirinha after another found its way to our table. Vatel69 and El Mariachi wanted to try to hook me up with someone and put their efforts and contacts into sending a couple of girls to the bar for me. No preasure though. If I didn't like them, I could easily send them away - no charge. After a while a heavy set morena called Nicole and a skinny loira called Luciane showed up. Luciana also brought along a friend but she was not available. None of the girls appealed to me so we sent them away.
On Thursday we while having dinner at Aizome we were recomended to come back to taste their speciality wich was oxtail. So we made a reservation to have dinner on Saturday which was today. In order to make it to in time for our reservation we left Veloso and headed for Aizome in a taxi.
At Aizome we were shown to a private room on the upper floor and served the tasting menu and sake. The meal once again was really good.
After the meal discussed our options on what to do this evening. All three of us wanted to see the football match on TV and at the same time find some women. We first thought about going to Connection but decided it was too long a ride to go and perhaps find the quality lacking so we decided to go to Kilt.
Kilt has been reported on these pages many times, so I will not bore you with details about location, hours of operation, interior etc. We arrived early and managed to get a table just in front of the scene where we also had a great view of one the many TV screen haging around which tonight would show the football game. We ordered a bottle of JW Red Label and some Guarana. Thankfully it was not as crowded at Kilt as it sometimes can be.
I almost instantly spotted a great looking girl dancing by herself over by the stairs leading to the second floor in the back. She had long curly blonde hair, blue eyes and was wearing a black cocktail dress. She was curvy at all the right places and had a nice tan. She really was my type looks wise. When she sat down the football game started so our conversation was a little distracted by the game but I really did not get a good feeling about her. Her consentration certainly was not with me and she had a very imature way of answering most questions. In the end I got bored and sent her way. As the evening passed on Brazil won the game against Argentina with 3-1 and I had waved over and sent away a couple of more girls. Now that Vatel69 and El Mariachi was no longer focused on the game they wanted to help me find a girl. So they took rounds in the club to see if they could find someone they thought would be a match for me and sent over at least half a dozen girls which I talked to briefly and rejected.
After the last of Vatel69s suggestion left my seat I suddenly spotted a tall, slim morena with long hair standing right under the TV where the football game had been shown. She must have arrived very recently because I hadn't seen her before during the evening and neither had Vatel69 nor El Mariachi during their rounds in the club.
Vatel69 waved the girl over and she introduced herself as Marcella. She was stunning. Long firm legs. Small firm bubble butt, big brown eyes, beautiful eyes and long black hair. Vatel69 talked briefly to her and could inform me that this was a Brazilian pornstar called Marcellinha Moraes. She had done a lot of movies and was complete service for the night for R$600. How could I refuse. She had this no nonsense calm way about her that really made me feel that she was going to be good.
Marcella and I took a taxi back to the hotel while Vatel69 and El Mariachi left us in another taxi. When Marcella and I entered the hotel this time she had to sign in and show her ID.
In the room I showered first and she showered after me. When she came out of the shower without make up and with a towl around her waist she was still as great looking as she had been before. I pushed her back on the bed, removed her towl and went down on her. It took less than 10 minutes to bring her over the edge to orgasm. She then motioned for me to move over on my back and started to give me a fantastic BBBJ like I have never had before. Her technique was incredible and with no more than a 5 minute effort she had emptied my balls from a huge load saved up from all the sessions last night. That was definetly the best BJ I have ever had. After that we went to sleep.
GK
[QUOTE=Genghis Khan
After the meal I took a taxi back to the hotel where I met Vatel69 and El Mariachi. Vatel69 had set up an appointment for me at his hairdresser so we hailed a cab and went to to have my haircut.
Marcella and I took a taxi back to the hotel while Vatel69 and El Mariachi left us in another taxi. When Marcella and I entered the hotel this time she had to sign in and show her ID.
In
GK[/QUOTE]
Genghis, your reports are outstanding. I love reading them, when reading it feels like you are there in the center of the action. My congratulations!
I am a bit like you, I don`t really care how much I spend, I stay in the best hotels and enjoy fine food. In my case, generally, it is my company that picks up the tab, which is fine when visiting brazil, but not much of a bonus in angola or mozambique. In brazil I rarely go out in sao paulo because I do not know it well and it is so big!!! I prefer to wait until I get to Rio which is a village compared to SP.
Now my delicate question, how does it work with these two guides you have? Are you paying them? Do you pick up all of the costs? They seem to be available to you at any time, even to take you for haircut? they have no job??
Please advise because maybe mongering could be easy in SP, when you know people like this.
Thanks and thanks again for your wonderful reports please keep it going.
Vatel69 is my friend. El Mariachi is Vatel69s friend. They took time off to be with me while I was in SP. We share the expences.
GK
[QUOTE=Genghis Khan]Vatel69 is my friend. El Mariachi is Vatel69s friend. They took time off to be with me while I was in SP. We share the expences.
GK[/QUOTE]
you are lucky, more good luck to you.
[QUOTE=Saopaulob]Where can I find the lowest prices for airflights from newark or ny to sao paulo? Prices seem kind of high this month at 716.00 no stops and 676.00 2 stops.[/QUOTE]Continental has some non-stop round trips in October for $532 depending on dates of course). EWR to GRU
[QUOTE=Saopaulob]Thanks for the info but that without taxes, it still reached $624[/QUOTE]That's the lowest rate going. The rates are only going up now as Brazil heads into summer. I bought my tickets for my Oct/Nov and my late January trips back in July when the prices were just under $400. Those rates are gone, and the availability for awards tickets in Jan and Feb 2010 is also drying up.
[QUOTE=Hughdad]That's the lowest rate going. The rates are only going up now as Brazil heads into summer. I bought my tickets for my Oct/Nov and my late January trips back in July when the prices were just under $400. Those rates are gone, and the availability for awards tickets in Jan and Feb 2010 is also drying up.[/QUOTE]BACC in Manhattan. And they have (or did have) an office on N.S. de Copa. Haven't found cheaper than these guys. Also, they can get you Anywhere in Brazil without having to buy yourself an add-on GOL ticket. I'm a disinterested party and not promoting a travel agent here.
If you can't find the absolute LOWEST FARE TO BRAZIL, please e-mail us at: [email]info@bacctravel.com[/email]
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I'm planning my next escapade to Sampa (mid october/november). As I was carefully perusing a noted Brazilian forum I've discovered to my great dismay that the thread on Bomboa was archived. Apparently, Bomboa is still experiencing some legal problems [since August 18th] (they are used to it!). Can somebody confirm this information?
As usual I will concentrate my activities on privês and free lance garotas. I'll report soon from Sampa!
[QUOTE=Sui Generis]I'm planning my next escapade to Sampa (mid october/november). As I was carefully perusing a noted Brazilian forum I've discovered to my great dismay that the thread on Bomboa was archived. Apparently, Bomboa is still experiencing some legal problems [since August 18th] (they are used to it!). Can somebody confirm this information?
As usual I will concentrate my activities on privês and free lance garotas. I'll report soon from Sampa![/QUOTE]No, I think something happened between them and gpguia, not exactly sure. But I've been there several times since they archived that thread (i live in SP).
Still operating as normal.
I can confirm that Bomboa is alive and kicking!
Recently I took a girl colled Fabiana (brunette, 1.65, very very curvy, 19yr. old and of course completa) from that distinguished establishment.
Once at the hotel she performed very well!
Italy 1974
[QUOTE=Senb91]No, I think something happened between them and gpguia, not exactly sure. But I've been there several times since they archived that thread (i live in SP).
Still operating as normal.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the info.
I searched for reports on p4p in the beach town of Guaruja in various sections here. Could not find any info. Are there any termas, clubs and escort action there? I need to be there for 3 days in November.
Thanks
Is there a place to report on dirty girls? Meaning a place to warn others to avoid girls that are known to be dirty? OBVIOUSLY we all take a risk, even with safe practice, but we should all look out for each other right? It just occurred to me, because a friend of mine told me to avoid this beautiful girl named Tiffany at Love Story (dark skinned, long black hair, eyebrow and tongue piercing, panther tattoo on side of stomach yes she was THAT hot) due to a rep of particularly prolific wart and herp giving. Ring a bell with anyone? I would hate to come home with a string or circle of mushrooms down there.
[QUOTE=Hughdad]I searched for reports on p4p in the beach town of Guaruja in various sections here. Could not find any info.[/QUOTE]
Never spent enough time in Guaruja to inform you efficiently, but if you're in the area (Sao Päulo Litoral Norte) in vacations period or during a long weekend, don't miss Galeao and Sirena clubs in Camburi and Maresias. There's a fantastic party scene from Dec till Feb when it's overflowing with rather hot mid to upper-class Paulistas and Paranaenses who go there to party their asses off, take drugs and get diseases that take antibiotics to cure. Both clubs are ranked among the top-ten clubs in Brasil. The most famous international DJs perform there regularly, including D.Guetta, Tiesto, Fatboy Slim,ect. Non-pro potential can be good for a culturally aware player. Nonetheless to score in Brasil, looks is excessively important, and it's even more obvious in this kind of places. Anyhow I've personally always had better chances in Galeao than in Sirena, where crowd is rather younger.
Litoral Norte surroundings are truly beautiful. Think Copacabana, Ipanema or Sao Conrado without buildings and favelas and with the Mata Atlantica just behind. Maresias, which is a favorite for pot-smokers, has a very laid back, surfer vibe, and has nice waves for who likes body surf. Ilhabela is great also. As Guaruja. I like Camburi the most though.
For accommodation in Camburi, I strongly recommand the Pousada Canto do Camburi. [url]http://www.pousadacantodocamburi.com.br/index_p.html[/url]
Also I don't recall ever running in Litoral Norte into any gringos, and this only justify the stay there IMO. As usual, go where others don't and things are much more enthralling, fun and interesting.
I don't think there is a specific thread to report about girls who seem not to be in goood shape.
You can do it here and everybody will read it.
Thanks for sharing.
[QUOTE=Rss910]Is there a place to report on dirty girls? Meaning a place to warn others to avoid girls that are known to be dirty? OBVIOUSLY we all take a risk, even with safe practice, but we should all look out for each other right? It just occurred to me, because a friend of mine told me to avoid this beautiful girl named Tiffany at Love Story (dark skinned, long black hair, eyebrow and tongue piercing, panther tattoo on side of stomach yes she was THAT hot) due to a rep of particularly prolific wart and herp giving. Ring a bell with anyone? I would hate to come home with a string or circle of mushrooms down there.[/QUOTE]
There is a Tiffany in Rio at Monte Carlo that may be the same girl. She told me she is only there for 4 days now. She has no eyebrow piercings and I don't think she has a tongue piercing but she does have a tattoo on her stomach. I can't remember if it is panther. God I hope she is not the same girl!
I'll be in SP this week if anyone needs a wing man.
Will be heading out to Sao Paulo in January and need any info and guidance anyone can offer me. Regular to Rio, Salvador, and Fortaleza, but don't have a clue where to go, stay, and nightclub in Sao Paulo. Any help with hotels, areas to monger, or work the girls would be greatly appreciated. All girl friendly of course.
[QUOTE=Nightwhaler]Will be heading out to Sao Paulo in January and need any info and guidance anyone can offer me. Regular to Rio, Salvador, and Fortaleza, but don't have a clue where to go, stay, and nightclub in Sao Paulo. Any help with hotels, areas to monger, or work the girls would be greatly appreciated. All girl friendly of course.[/QUOTE]May I suggest something that might sound quite obvious?
RTFF
[QUOTE=Nightwhaler]Will be heading out to Sao Paulo in January and need any info and guidance anyone can offer me. Regular to Rio, Salvador, and Fortaleza, but don't have a clue where to go, stay, and nightclub in Sao Paulo. Any help with hotels, areas to monger, or work the girls would be greatly appreciated. All girl friendly of course.[/QUOTE]Lots of info here for you to search and read.
Sorry but don't have a clue on what is your budget, what are your preferences in terms of girls, if you speak local language, etc. .
How can we suggest ?
Please get some ideas of what is going on here by reading the very informative reports in this thread.
You will find lots of infos about where to go, to stay, and to monger.
Then we will be more than happy to reply to specific questions and to clarify all your possible doubts.
Enjoy
[QUOTE=Nightwhaler]Will be heading out to Sao Paulo in January and need any info and guidance anyone can offer me. Regular to Rio, Salvador, and Fortaleza, but don't have a clue where to go, stay, and nightclub in Sao Paulo. Any help with hotels, areas to monger, or work the girls would be greatly appreciated. All girl friendly of course.[/QUOTE]
Hi,
Going to be in SP on the 23rd if anyone is around.
Also I usually end up in Tivoly as I think the girls there are cute and really friendly as is the management to gringo's. Any other idea's of likewise.
I've always been tempted to go to Love story but have been a little sceptable after reading its not very friendly.
is it safe for a lone gringo?
I know Sunday is a slow night everywhere in Brazil...but.., can anybody come up with a good suggestion?
Is Cafè photo closed on Sunday night ?
bb5
[QUOTE=Bobo5]I know Sunday is a slow night everywhere in Brazil...but.., can anybody come up with a good suggestion?
Is Cafè photo closed on Sunday night ?
bb5[/QUOTE]This Sunday most will be open because of F1.
But other Sundays Romanza is open which is near to photo.
[QUOTE=Hobbying]This Sunday most will be open because of F1.
But other Sundays Romanza is open which is near to photo.[/QUOTE]Kilt is open on Sunday's too.
Paid a visit to Doutora Oyama, in Vila Mariana, [url]www.doutoraoyama.com.br[/url] (the web page lack of information such as prices, no photo gallery as now it seems normal, probably to avoid troubles with LE.
Said to be an old establishement, opened since 27 years. but do not worry, the girls have changed in the meantime! LOL.
opened from monday through friday from 12noon till 9.30pm, Shorter time on saturday as it closes at 7.30pm.
The owner family controls another venue, France Bel, if I am not wrong.
A total anonimous building hosts this clinica.
You are welcomed at the door by a nice girl that hugs and givs you a welcome kiss.
Guided in a comfortable waiting room one can see a selection of 3 pictures for each pf the doszen or so masagista.
I saw a familiar face and was confirmed she worked in the "sister" clinica. A charming lady introduces you to each of the girl, by pointing at the photos and in some cases highlights their capacities.
Being impressed by the well depicted massage skills of Bruna, I opt for her and guided to the room.
A very confortable massage table is at the centre of the room (there are choices of other rooms with jacuzzi whirlpool roun tub or a wooden (japanese style) tub. Quite useful if one choses the 4-hand massage.
After a bunch of minutes, bruna, wearing a short robe enteres the room and introduces herself. Few discrete questions if one is aware of the game and down to the massage.
Performed in a very skillfull way (I asked for soft) and lots of attention, also in warming the oil with her own hands.
She occasionally explore you bottom area in a sensual way, an anticipation of what she can do later, after she disappear for a little while "to wash the hands from the oil" (and undress completely from her bra and pants)
After quite some catbath up and down your body, and the tongue playing extensively on your lower region, she asks you to turn over.
She knows how to please, how to detect what you like the most and carries on. With no barriers, performing a great ass rimming, venturing into prostrate massage and raising the game.
At some point she capped me but honestly I did not have perception she did so I was actually quite puzzled she was dpoing the FS on bareback and could not believe that: I was right, I was capped, but god knows when!).
She then rides on a reverse cowboy till the end, mantaining the hand work in the lower areas.
Keeps on cuddling and only after some minutes she removes the condom (it is then I realized it was not a BB.
The massage keeps on, light, to "decompress" the customer. I enjoyed that with a big smile and a heavenly sensation.
The best massage in SP since quite some years.
The suggestion to take a shower indicates the end of the session, a bit shorter than the 60 minutes, but that is irrelevant. The pleasure is in what you get, not in the minutes you lay on the massage bed.
Time to leave her the tip (from 100 to 150BR$) on the table (she makes you understand she does not want to get it from your hands: something to do with LE?) and a farewell kiss.
Not GFE, a great blend of real relaxing massage and pleasant sex.
Cost of the standard massage including the room is 190BR$, plus, as said, the tip.
The place is clean, you seem to be and feel at home even if a first timer.
Reception staff is great. The pyament procedures of the room are friendly and you feel like you are giving some money to some friend, rather than to a clinica.
Will I repeat? most likely very shortly in time.
To be recommended? yes: not a much known place within the visitor panel, surely more appreciated by the locals, did not seem crwoded the evening I visited it.
Take you rtime to listen to the girl's descriptions for the selction but if Bruna is free, do not hesitate much and pick her. You will nto be disappointed!
I am glad to hear that this monument among SP night-clubs is still up and running, as I had previously heard from a Brazilian friend that it had been closed by mayor.
[QUOTE=Tommy America]Kilt is open on Sunday's too.[/QUOTE]
How much is airfare from SP to.
1. Medellin (does it even have airport? if not.. bogota.)
2. Buenos Aires
3. Rio (bus available? if so..price and duration? or would plane be better choice?)
And any website to search for low fares for planes fly between cities in South America?
Thanks
In a couple of days I'll arrive in São Paulo. I'm always eager to go there because a lot of friends are expecting me.
While I was perusing the different threads of the GP Guia I discovered that Bellaxxx is back. I never went out with that garota but I met her in a private party on a terrace bar in Itaim Bibi (Moça Bonita), in 2005, while I was partying with local mongers. (If you need to know more about my impressions then, you can read my report dating back from September 2005).
Bellaxx is in her mid 30's but she is very good looking and clever. I think that she speaks four or five languages and I can certify that she speaks English fluently (she used to be an Englsih teacher).
The reason of my post is the following one: I constantly receive via private mail messages from other members asking me if there are English speaking garotas in São Paulo. Bellaxx is definitely one of them.
[url]http://www.bella-home.com/mypictures.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Tommy America]Kilt is open on Sunday's too.[/QUOTE]Quality no where close to romanza though but these places are packed cause its the only two boites open
Girl that speaks very good english (not fluent) is Agatha she was in playboy and now works at Garden, tall blonde with implants. Never had a session with her cause CBJ is a deal breaker for me but she is safe and good session from what I've heard.
Strange question.
Is web search functions disabled on your computer ?
As I am a kind guy, some answers follow:
1. Medellin does have an airport
2. Other than Expedia or other well known websites, you may want to check those of airlines, like Gol [url]http://www.voegol.com.br/int/Paginas/home.aspx[/url] usually offering lower fares in Brazil
3. Don't know about buses, I would opt for a 58 minutes flight starting from USD 46.00
[QUOTE=Idwib]How much is airfare from SP to.
1. Medellin (does it even have airport? if not.. bogota.)
2. Buenos Aires
3. Rio (bus available? if so..price and duration? or would plane be better choice?)
And any website to search for low fares for planes fly between cities in South America?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Hobbying]Quality no where close to romanza though but these places are packed cause its the only two boites open[/QUOTE]True...but at Kilt one is much less likely to get ripped off or overcharged by the waiter --- always the "downside" at Romanza. I do agree with you on "quality" though.
Wanted to sample again this new (to me, since the location is quite ancient) "institute" and went there yesterday. seems more cars were parked in the mid afternoon than in the early evening as the week before. The door automatically opens and you are greeted by a nice lady as receptionist.
Since I knew already the rules I was quickly briefed on who was available
To my regret Bruna had a red mark on her photo (ocupada, busy).
So the choice went for Ayomi (yes, she has japanese descent althoug having born in southern Brazil)
A cute short black hair, her faqce did not match in full the photo, but, alas, not a big deal. Was not planning to introduce her to my family.
Said to understand english but lack of practice induces her not to talk otehjr than in portuguese, that I handle at basic levels for easy conversation.
Little preparation of the tools of the trade, a cream to carry on the massage and she then starts the usual routine.
Contrary to Bruna that asked for the level of massage (I asked for soft) she goes into a mid-hard deep tissue.
She seems to know her business on that and goes on with good skills all the way, taking care of the key areas needing a (professional) rub.
Painful at some point, or me not ready for deep tissue.
She then disappears a few minutes and gets back undressed and motions into the intimate part of the session.
As the other one, special attention to the prostrate massage (seems to be a specialty of the house?) and on till completion.
Lets me relax with some more chat, time for shower.
And the hour was gone.
When it comes to settle the economics I hand over the known 150B$ and she insists - repeatedly - it is 190. No way to come to terms.
I hate those moments (that's why I prefer certain establishments as "post" negotiations are a real killer) and handed the extra 40BR$
I do not know if she felt that being a stranger she could milk more money (but the other ones sticked to the hosue rules of 100-150) or what. I made her understand I was not happy at all.
Paid the room fee and off I went. My portugues is not sufficient to handle a price negotiation with the receptionist.
But I am pretty sure the management will hear about my complaints under some forms.
WIR Ayomi? certainy not willing to prize her again with the extra she asked. Massage wsas indeed professional till the last bit, the "extras" were average.
Certainly Bruna outstands her more on the "extras", still a gem.
Will take a while before I visit SP again, so who knows who is there and if!
As a souvenire against the saudade I leave you with a brazilian bunda. it belongs to a (girl)friend of mine, a hurricane in bed.
[QUOTE=Tommy America]True...but at Kilt one is much less likely to get ripped off or overcharged by the waiter --- always the "downside" at Romanza. I do agree with you on "quality" though.[/QUOTE]That's why when I go to Romanza I opt for the entry fee of 100R only and not order any drinks and pay 120R to take girl out. The 220R option includes drinks but I know their drink tricks.
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Visited Sao Paulo, had a very good experience with Julie, found her on Craislist.
26 yrs old, 37c 24 34, dirty blond hair 110 lbs, good English, trimmed, not totally bare. She was very enthuestic, definately there to please. 200 real, she stayed 3 hours, offered to stay the night for no extra. She wore a red dress, fish net nllons, she had to register at the front desk, they called me and escorted her to my room, I signed two papers. Julie was non stop action, she was there to please.
I also tryed a clinica called My Way on 777 Itaim Bibi, the one hour fee was 175 real, choose a lady from the book, definately photo shop photos, when we arrived to the room, I was advised the 175 was a massage and hj only, for her services it was an additional 150 real, needless to say, I left, they gave me my 175 back. There is no comparison with Kin, I would not recommend My Way.
Before visiting any establishment while in Brazil, I try and preview the service menu at before going there. Their rates are currently listed at R320 per session which is almost the same rate they tried to charge you. This prevents a lot of grief knowing if they are being straight about the services and menu of choices they provide. Most are very honest and go out of their way to insure you are happy with them. Plus with all the previous raids by the city, most "Clinicas" try to hide under the umbrella of legitimacy about what they really do for their customers.
[QUOTE=Johntodd] I also tryed a clinica called My Way on 777 Itaim Bibi, the one hour fee was 175 real, choose a lady from the book, definately photo shop photos, when we arrived to the room, I was advised the 175 was a massage and hj only, for her services it was an additional 150 real, needless to say, I left, they gave me my 175 back. There is no comparison with Kin, I would not recommend My Way.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Johntodd]Visited Sao Paulo, had a very good experience with Julie, found her on Craislist.
26 yrs old, 37c 24 34, dirty blond hair 110 lbs, good English, trimmed, not totally bare. She was very enthuestic, definately there to please. 200 real, she stayed 3 hours, offered to stay the night for no extra. She wore a red dress, fish net nllons, she had to register at the front desk, they called me and escorted her to my room, I signed two papers. Julie was non stop action, she was there to please.[/QUOTE]Can you post her contact info or a link to her particular ad? Silicone? DFK? BBBJ?
I'll be in Sao Paulo 01-Nov-2009 (Sunday) staying in Jardins. If anyone's interested in partying Sunday night or just grabbing a beer PM me (I just became a paid member so it might take a little time until my PM works). You can read more about me in Travel Plans & Announcements ([url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=158[/url]).
Below is a summary of what I found for Sunday "hobby" activities in Sao Paulo. Please let me know if you have anything to add or disagree.
NON-PRO CLUBBING. One poster says "Sunday evening is a great day for bar hopping in Sao Paulo. Many "in" bars in Pinheiros, Itaim, V.Olimpia, Jardins, Bela Vista, etc have a Sunday party with musica ao vivo (live music, usually MPB or samba) which begins quite early, around 6pm, and get packed to the walls. Drinks are usually cheaper on that day." Recommended include Club Carioca for Samba ([url]http://www.cariocaclub.com.br/index2.asp[/url]) and Andrade for forro (couldn't find a location for this one).
STRIP CLUBS. Kilt ([url]http://www.kiltshows.com.br/english/home.asp[/url]) is the only one open on Sunday.
MASSAGE. Most are closed on Sunday according to their Web sites (Berrini, Assahi, Sauna House, Vison). Clinica Kin doesn’t specify so maybe they are open ([url]http://www.clinicakin.com.br/[/url]). Any suggestions for this or Prive on Sunday?
Thanks in advance for your suggestions!
[QUOTE=Hobbying]That's why when I go to Romanza I opt for the entry fee of 100R only and not order any drinks and pay 120R to take girl out. The 220R option includes drinks but I know their drink tricks.[/QUOTE]Speaking of which: I was in SP this past week. Romanza was closed again by the police during F1 week. Apparently, a waiter presented a customer with a bill for over $20,000...so the patron called the police on the spot. Police responded and --- wonder of wonders --- told him that his was one of many similar complaints. Police decided this was the last straw and closed Romanza indefinitely on the spot.
[QUOTE=Tommy America]Speaking of which: I was in SP this past week. Romanza was closed again by the police during F1 week. Apparently, a waiter presented a customer with a bill for over $20,000...so the patron called the police on the spot. Police responded and --- wonder of wonders --- told him that his was one of many similar complaints. Police decided this was the last straw and closed Romanza indefinitely on the spot.[/QUOTE]
$20,000... What did the lad order? Lula's cum?
No loss in there.
I am in Sao Paulo for 2 days - Sunday Nov 8 and Monday Nov 9. where can I go to find GDP's with HUGE bundas? Also have preference for Mulata's or Morena's.
Thanks in advance
J
Depending on where you are staying, there is always an over abundance of round, firm, big, juicy bubble butts everywhere I've been in Sao Paolo. It all depends on where you are staying. If you let us know where you are staying, many places could be recomended to you. If possible, send me a PM; if you don't have the capability, subscribe and get it. It's worth its price in gold.
[QUOTE=Nna Joe]I am in Sao Paulo for 2 days - Sunday Nov 8 and Monday Nov 9. where can I go to find GDP's with HUGE bundas? Also have preference for Mulata's or Morena's.
Thanks in advance
J[/QUOTE]
I have a really long layover on a Sunday afternoon at GRU. Any good options for pre-flight stress relief that won't have me worrying about making it back to the airport in time?
[QUOTE=Roger Dorn]I have a really long layover on a Sunday afternoon at GRU. Any good options for pre-flight stress relief that won't have me worrying about making it back to the airport in time?[/QUOTE]
SP is actually a no-option on sundays for MP as they are all closed.
Sunday afternoon does not offer much, I am afraid, unless you find a GdP willing.
GRU is sometime an hour away from town, can even be more on the late sunday afternoon.
So make the math and make sure you do not miss your flight.
I was at Cafè Foto on Monday night. I can highly recommend it, in my opinion the best looking girls in Sao Paulo today.
I took home a beautyfull Carioca that I already knew from a previous visit.
400brl for 3 hrs of gfe fun with a beatiful "model type".
entry fee is 190brl with 4 drinks. I know it is expensive but well worth it!!!
I love Brazil!
Can't wait to go back.
bb5
[QUOTE=Bobo5]...400brl for 3 hrs of gfe fun with a beatiful "model type".
entry fee is 190brl with 4 drinks. I know it is expensive but well worth it!!!...[/QUOTE]
590 reais for 3 hours ? Not cheap city SP....
[QUOTE=Lukasek]590 reais for 3 hours ? Not cheap city SP....[/QUOTE]
No, definetely not cheap but well worth it.
As I said in other posts everybody is responsible for its own money.
I like the ambiente @ the cafè, no pushy waiters, beautyfull girls, relaxed atmosphere.
Just my taste.
I've been in a lot of places in brazil but never found anything who was even close to this place.
bb5
[QUOTE=Bobo5]...
As I said in other posts everybody is responsible for its own money...[/QUOTE]
I did not mean to judge you, I just consider the price and thinking to Rio VS SP, cause I never been to SP.
[QUOTE=Bobo5]...I've been in a lot of places in brazil but never found anything who was even close to this place...[/QUOTE]
And obviously you made me very curious :D so please let me ask you, what makes this place better than the terma girls in Rio ?
Again, just cause I am curious, thanks.
[QUOTE=Lukasek]I did not mean to judge you, I just consider the price and thinking to Rio VS SP, cause I never been to SP.
And obviously you made me very curious :D so please let me ask you, what makes this place better than the terma girls in Rio ?
Again, just cause I am curious, thanks.[/QUOTE]
I did not mean to be rude or sound aggressive either. I know You are not judging anybody but a few of the forum readers might be.
Cafe Foto has in my opinion a very relaxed attitude, you pay in advance for yr. drinks and skip aggressive waiters or girls insisting on buying drinks.
6 girls out of 10 are very goodlooking, some even model type, all dressed to kill!
I include a couple of pictures of a girl that looks exactly like the one I took home the other night.
for me she is a 10.
I do not know how to explain You but being at CF does not give you the usual feeling of being in a *****house.
I'm going there again next week, do You want to join me?
bb5
Also, at cafe photo, unless it has changed recently, the girls do not approach you unless you call them over. At the termas, the girls are a bit more aggressive to win your business. I love the termas but it is a good change of pace in Sao Paulo. Plus there are or were many Brazilian Playboy bunnies there.
Q
[QUOTE=Bobo5]I was at Cafè Foto on Monday night. I can highly recommend it, in my opinion the best looking girls in Sao Paulo today.
I took home a beautyfull Carioca that I already knew from a previous visit.
400brl for 3 hrs of gfe fun with a beatiful "model type".
entry fee is 190brl with 4 drinks. I know it is expensive but well worth it!!!
I love Brazil!
Can't wait to go back.
bb5[/QUOTE]Thanks for the helpful post about Cafe Foto. It definitely sounds like my kind of place: beautiful women who aren't pushy. I can hardly imagine heaven itself being any better.
Do you need to pay an exit fee for the lady at Cafe Foto? If I go in and pay the 190brl entry fee, drink my four drinks and then leave with a lady, would that be okay with management? I would imagine I would need to leave a couple of 20brl tips for the waiters, but would I be expected to pay anything beyond that?
[QUOTE=Freedom3]Thanks for the helpful post about Cafe Foto. It definitely sounds like my kind of place: beautiful women who aren't pushy. I can hardly imagine heaven itself being any better.
Do you need to pay an exit fee for the lady at Cafe Foto? If I go in and pay the 190brl entry fee, drink my four drinks and then leave with a lady, would that be okay with management? I would imagine I would need to leave a couple of 20brl tips for the waiters, but would I be expected to pay anything beyond that?[/QUOTE]
no need to pay anything for take out. there are no rooms or any kind of facility in the house.
No tips to the waiters either.
I always take the girl to my hotel, make yr. calculations gentlemen, at the end 190 BRL is not too bad.
bb5
[QUOTE=Bobo5]...
I'm going there again next week, do You want to join me?
bb5[/QUOTE]
Oi ;) ,
be sure I really would like, but I am yet in Europe at home :(
Many thanks for the photos Bobo, they speak more than many words...it seems despite the quite high price, comparing with termas, you get really the best Brazil could offer.
I agree, she is for me easily a 11 :D as face, I guess the body looks the same high level and the services/attitude too.
Strange there is no taxa de saida, as the similar clubs in Curitiba and Floripa, but there you get into for 100 reais and fee of exit is another 100, so I guess it is already included at the beginning.
[QUOTE=Lukasek]Oi ;) ,
be sure I really would like, but I am yet in Europe at home :(
Many thanks for the photos Bobo, they speak more than many words...it seems despite the quite high price, comparing with termas, you get really the best Brazil could offer.
I agree, she is for me easily a 11 :D as face, I guess the body looks the same high level and the services/attitude too.
Strange there is no taxa de saida, as the similar clubs in Curitiba and Floripa, but there you get into for 100 reais and fee of exit is another 100, so I guess it is already included at the beginning.[/QUOTE]
nothing to be compared to Class, Sexy or anything else in Curitiba...trust me.
bb5
[QUOTE=Bobo5]no need to pay anything for take out. there are no rooms or any kind of facility in the house.
No tips to the waiters either.
I always take the girl to my hotel, make yr. calculations gentlemen, at the end 190 BRL is not too bad.
bb5[/QUOTE]Great. Here are another couple of questions.
The cafe foto website says that there is an "upstairs club". Have you been there? How is it different from the ground and first floor?
Do many of the women at cafe foto speak english? I am trying to learn some portuguese, but it is very slow going.
[QUOTE=Bobo5]no need to pay anything for take out. there are no rooms or any kind of facility in the house.
No tips to the waiters either.
I always take the girl to my hotel, make yr. calculations gentlemen, at the end 190 BRL is not too bad.
bb5[/QUOTE]Hell. Entrance fee at a bigger Rio termas is R$60 or R$70 (without taking advantage of an, early bird, free admission coupon or half-off if you session promotion). And the drink prices are getting out of hand at the termas. The Strawberry Capirinha prize that I had to buy for my samba dancing Mel at Luomo was R$22! (But the half-hour we spent together just laughing our asses off was worth it and I drank half of it!) So R$190 with 4 drinks, no waiter tips, no entrance fee, no take out payment, in a class no-hassle joint with top-shelf sexy talent. Doesn't sound outrageous to me by comparision. Thanks for the report.
Glad you had a great time.
[QUOTE=Freedom3]Thanks for the helpful post about Cafe Foto. It definitely sounds like my kind of place: beautiful women who aren't pushy. I can hardly imagine heaven itself being any better.[/QUOTE]Definately noticed more pushiness during my visits to Monte Carlo and Luomo this week than during the recent past. I actually had to be direct to the first girl that came over at each place and that seemed to send a message to the other ladies that I wanted to chill for a few minutes.
In Luomo I had a skinny blond (probably a 6) come right over and start speaking English. She was pleasant - but persistent and kept asking me what I honestly thought of her - so I finally told her I found her ordinary. She didn't understand the meaning of the word so Barry (the bartender) translated for me. Then the group of businessmen came in. I told her she should go dance for them if she wanted a chance of having a session because I wasn't planning one.
At Monte Carlo, I had a young lady (with braces - noticed about 6 ladies with braces on their teeth at both places combined) come and sit in my lap right away - within minutes of me sitting down. I offered her the chair next to me and she refused and stayed seated in my lap. So I stood up and she nealy went tumbling on her high heels. I again politely offered her the stool next to me and she just kept grinding her ass against me. She had a nice ass - I'll give her that. But I told her again that I wanted to chill for a few. She took it personally and asked if I knew any of the ladies there. When I mentioned a few names she said "oh they're my friend and maybe we can do a dupla". I finally had to walk across the room to another lady that was smiling at me to introduce myself to get away. The smart ones know how to right the moment. Then again some of them just sit with their arms folded all night.
[QUOTE=Freedom3]Great. Here are another couple of questions.
The cafe foto website says that there is an "upstairs club". Have you been there? How is it different from the ground and first floor?
Do many of the women at cafe foto speak english? I am trying to learn some portuguese, but it is very slow going.[/QUOTE]
Ground floor is always open and busy.
I've seen the first floor open only once, the upstairs club is good for a chat or a dinner with the girl You've met.
Nothing too exclusive as they try to put it on their website.
bb5
[QUOTE=Bobo5]Ground floor is always open and busy.
I've seen the first floor open only once, the upstairs club is good for a chat or a dinner with the girl You've met.
Nothing too exclusive as they try to put it on their website.
bb5[/QUOTE]The website definitely gives the impression that it is very expensive upstairs. They have a menu with no prices. Always a scary sign. Have you been upstairs? One thing that I am always worried about is being handed an inflated bill. Do you think that will be a problem at Cafe Foto? Another poster in this thread referred to this phenomenon at another club.
[QUOTE=Bobo5]Ground floor is always open and busy.
I've seen the first floor open only once, the upstairs club is good for a chat or a dinner with the girl You've met.
Nothing too exclusive as they try to put it on their website.
bb5[/QUOTE]I do not know if the policy has changed in the past six months but the upstairs room was a members only deal. Most of the girls I have found work the lower floor. I was told by one of the girls who works there that business has been pretty slow so maybe they do not open the upstairs room all the time. As Bobo5 mentions in his report unlike other places there are no nasty surprises at the end of the evening. Like Napoli you got to see it once before you die.
[QUOTE=John Corey]I do not know if the policy has changed in the past six months but the upstairs room was a members only deal. Most of the girls I have found work the lower floor. I was told by one of the girls who works there that business has been pretty slow so maybe they do not open the upstairs room all the time. As Bobo5 mentions in his report unlike other places there are no nasty surprises at the end of the evening. Like Napoli you got to see it once before you die.[/QUOTE]
Gentlemen,
There are 3 floors at Cafe Photo.
The 1st floor is always open.
The 2nd floor only opens a certain hour depending on how busy they are. (Usually saturdays 2nd floor is closed).
There is a 3rd floor which is somewhat more exclusive floor. You are to pay an annual membership fee.
Any of the experts know how to get from Morumbi to Love Story by Metro? I have been looking on the Metro SP site for the last 30 minutes trying to figure it out but I am coming up empty handed. Thanks.
I agree..i posted sometime ago about Cafe Photo.
Also met this similar model girl, Raefella.
Most beautiful girls.
I take Cafe Photo over Bomboa
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Any of the experts know how to get from Morumbi to Love Story by Metro? I have been looking on the Metro SP site for the last 30 minutes trying to figure it out but I am coming up empty handed. Thanks.[/QUOTE]
Well even if you could (but you can't, as the linha 4 is still under construction from what I know) it wouldn't be very helpful, as Love Story is a total morgue until 2.20/3am, so long after the last metro.
Anyway to go from Morumbi to Centro by metro, the only way is to get off at Pinheiros (linha 9 esmeralda ) and then to take a taxi.
To continue on the Cafe Photo subject, I've sometimes met in Love Story meninas from there. As from most others upscale Sao Paulo boites (Romanza, Gauguin, ect) BTW.
[QUOTE=Freedom3]Thanks for the helpful post about Cafe Foto. It definitely sounds like my kind of place: beautiful women who aren't pushy. I can hardly imagine heaven itself being any better.
Do you need to pay an exit fee for the lady at Cafe Foto? If I go in and pay the 190brl entry fee, drink my four drinks and then leave with a lady, would that be okay with management? I would imagine I would need to leave a couple of 20brl tips for the waiters, but would I be expected to pay anything beyond that? [/QUOTE]Last time I went to Cafe Photo, it was a Saturday night and there were several beautiful women there. It is a very classy place. The entrance w/ drinks included is fine, not too expensive. However, be very careful if you want any more drinks after that. Last time I was there, after using all my drink tickets, I ordered a beer and was charged $35r. I was stunned. I said to myself, that's it, pick a girl and get out of here back to the hotel. The women are not too pushy, but they will definitely come up to you. When I was there, almost ever working girl there approached and chatted with me. It was a really nice atmosphere. I finally picked a Paulista, who had her own car. There is no exit fee. So she drove me back to my hotel and I did not have to pay a taxi, very cool. I had a great time w/ her for $400r, and she was a very cool garota. Everyone must go to cafe photo at least once in their lives.
Quality and price are much better at Cafè Foto than Bomboa.
entry fee : CF 190brl - Bomboa 180brl
exit fee: CF 0 - Bomboa 100brl if You want to take the girl to yr. place otherwise 80brl in the nextdoor hotel.
girls fee: anything between 300 and 600brl at both places
Btw the other night while going back to the hotel with my catch we drove by the next new CF location.
On the building they already put the Cafè Foto sign, so what was only considered a "fofoca" is confirmed.
Cafè will soon move.
New address is on Avenida Pres. Juscelino Kubitscheck.
bb5
I'm planning a trip to Sao Paulo on December 15th and enjoy nightclubs like Cafe Photo.
The only thing that keeps me from buying my ticket is I'm afraid that by Dec 15th, many of the girls of Cafe Photo will be gone.
Has anyone been during those dates in Sao Paulo and give me an advice as if I should go or better plan for another date?
Other alternative I'm considering are Buenos Aires and Medellin.
Any advice?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Bobo5]Cafè will soon move.
New address is on Avenida Pres. Juscelino Kubitscheck.
bb5[/QUOTE]That's very interesting. I was planning on staying in a hotel close to Cafe Foto. Is the new location close to the current one? Can you please tell me the cross-streets so I can try to find it on a map?
Thanks
I have been in SP for 1 week on a business trip. A few comments.
1) the hotel. I wanted to stay in Jardins, close to Paulista for business reasons. Last year I stayed in Renaissance: very nice but it was full. So I decided to be a good cost-saver for my company and I chose the Mercure on Alameda Itu. A disaster: I strongly do not advice. First night on the 2nd floor, on Rua Augusta: only if you like the noise of buses climbing the street. Then I asked to move, and was sent to floor 14. No noise, but the toilets were out of service. Plus, some clothes lost. So I asked my company to find someting else. Eventually, I got a "deluxe" room in the Renaissance: 3 times more expensive, but my company is paying, and I can say I have tried. Also, I knew the Renaissance is girl-friendly.
2) now, the ladies. Last year I spend a couple of nights with Laura, a lady I had met in internet. Since this trip, we had been exchanging a few mails and I called her and she seemed happy to come on the same night to the hotel. We had a drink in a bar close to the hotel, and after one hour we were back to the room. She is quite direct: no "not tonight" or "I don't know". After 10 minutes I was sucking her big tits and she was sucking my dick. We had a nice fuck (she asked for anal and I obliged). We kept on playing for a while, but I was tired (just coming from Europe). She stayed for the night, but left wery early in the morning (seems to be a very busy lady). A few months ago, I made another contact through internet. More or less the same story: Lucia, a 45-year old lady, a bit thick but with a nice face and big tits, who is working as a free-lance teacher, looking for an uncomprimising relationship. I just has to ask her to come to my room, and that's done. More "classical" that Laura: no anal (and I didn't ask for as I am not especially fond of), but a good fuck. We arranged a second meeting, but she did not appear: she just called with a rather confusing excuse. However, she called me again in the airport when I was leaving. Conclusion: it is quite easy. I am 50-years old, no superman, a bit too fat, my Portuguese is weak (I speak good Spanish but it is definitely different, although it helps to express myself), and I can easily get nice (I mean: educated and good-looking) middle-aged ladies in SP. One thing that may help in that they are many: at least in the Jardins, I would say than half of the ladies between 18 and 55 are doable.
3) then, other ladies. I followed Sui Generis' advice and went for the clinicas (when I read some posts, it seems that some fuck better if they spend 500 reais or more; I do think it is useless, but if they feel better with 300 USD less. It can been seen as a "social transfers program" as Lula's!). So I went for Charm's, rua Casimiro da Rocha. Sui Generis' indications are perfect. But it is closed. So I took a taxi to reach another of his preferred places: o 88a rua do Novo Cancioneiro (a detail here: in this part of the city. Brooklyn- there are many streets with "Cancioneiro" and my taxi got lost; be sureto go to "Novo Cancioneiro"). As Sui Generis says, reception is fine (the receptionist is pretty but actually a bit "gordita"), I was presented six girls, all of them doable. I chose Jessica. We went to the room, had a shower, and when we were naked she told me she is 37-years old. I could not believe it. Her face was maybe a 7. 5, but her body was a 9. 5 or more. A sweet tan, long black hear, large and firm natural tits (she even told me she had a breast reduction). Then it was much better than expected, beginning with a great BBBJ (without asking for). Then a very nice moment. After fucking, we chatted for a while (she was in no hurry, telleing me we had no reason to get out before one hour). Jessica told me she was a saleswoman until a few years ago, but she lost her job and entered the business. She also added she likes sex and was enjoying her job and would not return to a "straight" job now. I strongly recommand. A last detail. The receptionist is also honest, because I gave her two notes of 50 EUR (the same color as the 50 reais); she laughed and said "No, not these ones". Thanks Sui Generis, good recommendation. And be nice with Jessica, if you meet her.
El francés
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Hi everyone!
When I am in Sao Paulo and I want to relax after a long day of meetings, I usually go to clinicas. I like clinicas because they are discrete, you can choose among many ladies and the prices are normally honest. I went to many but my favourites at the moments are: 4 Estaçoes (very clean, fantastic ladies and the possibility to have a relaxing hydro with the lady of your choise), Antares (also very clean and marvelous ladies), Clinica Onna (same owner as Antares, very nice ladies as well).
Next time I will try Clinica Zen who is in the same street as Onna. Did any one try the clinica?
I will let you know my experience asap.
Patrick1
[QUOTE=Whisky Ice]I'm planning a trip to Sao Paulo on December 15th and enjoy nightclubs like Cafe Photo.
The only thing that keeps me from buying my ticket is I'm afraid that by Dec 15th, many of the girls of Cafe Photo will be gone.
Has anyone been during those dates in Sao Paulo and give me an advice as if I should go or better plan for another date?
Other alternative I'm considering are Buenos Aires and Medellin.
Any advice?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Saopa and BAs are almost dead.. if you don't have previos contacts from "independets" the percentage of cute girls is very low,, most of the hottest take off to the beaches and stuff.. all the way till end of January..
Medellin still good.. actually I guess you will do real good,, is local tourist season Hot girls working or studying in Bogota come back home , A LOT OF parties everywhere.. Hotties trying to get good money for Xmass festivities.. Americans don not go too much on this days so you will have them all for yourself..check the Medellin board ,, The English speaker hotel "LA Mansion" even have some especial half prices for these days, and this hotel have a very impressive book of "prepagos" escorts that work in the Mansion exclusively ,,SO I would definitely choose Medellin on that season. low days are 24, 25 and new year.. But if you are lucky enough to make friends you wont be lonely at all..
Good luck
Any more hints needed MP me
I recently learned I am being sent to Sao Paulo on December 15th for a few days. I should have my evenings free most nights.
I am booked at the Radisoon Faia Lima. I don't know what is close to there or where I should be going. What is the policy with bringing girls to the hotel?
Am I best to call then and have them meet me there? Or should I try clubs and bring them back with me? Should I get a second hotel that would be more accomodating?
Usually I have been to Mexico. I have started practising Portuguese to see what I can pick up in a few weeks.
If anyone is willing to show a Newbie around for a few nights it would be greatly appreciated.
I typically look for the type of girl I would have dated in college. Thin, firm body, small very firm real breasts, prefer average faces, like blowjobs more than banging, found girls who wear braces often give the best head, I don't know why.
I read through the first few forum pages, and it seems prices are little a higher than I guessed, That is not a huge concern for me, but lower is always better and I prefer not to get ripped off.
Anyone willing to help, let me know.
Marelobo
[QUOTE=Patrick1]Hi everyone!
When I am in Sao Paulo and I want to relax after a long day of meetings, I usually go to clinicas. I like clinicas because they are discrete, you can choose among many ladies and the prices are normally honest. I went to many but my favourites at the moments are: 4 Estaçoes (very clean, fantastic ladies and the possibility to have a relaxing hydro with the lady of your choise), Antares (also very clean and marvelous ladies), Clinica Onna (same owner as Antares, very nice ladies as well).
Next time I will try Clinica Zen who is in the same street as Onna. Did any one try the clinica?
I will let you know my experience asap.
Patrick1[/QUOTE]Patrick,
What did you pay at these places and care to share any names/reviews of the ladies in each place? Also any addresses?
Thx
Well not bad location, a little more than 1 mile from famous Cafe Photo.
As far as policy about bringing girls, I don't know Radisson in particular but generally hotels here are quite open. You don't need a second hotel.
If you feel comfortable with a more discrete option, just use Lido which you pay by time and it is very weel known by girls.
In case you ask a girl to meet you in your room, girl has to register at front desk and then she's escorted upstairs. Remember than in almost all hotels you have to insert your key card in the elevator, so you cannot sneak around front desk.
In case you go to a club and come back with a girl, in my experiences you are able to skip front desk (so an alternative to previous case could be waiting for the girl downstairs or just outside the hotel).
Surely you will find type of girls you prefer. You may want to browse websites or go to a club.
Prices are becoming higher as Real is getting stronger and stronger every day :-(
[QUOTE=Marelobo Mex]I recently learned I am being sent to Sao Paulo on December 15th for a few days. I should have my evenings free most nights.
I am booked at the Radisoon Faia Lima. I don't know what is close to there or where I should be going. What is the policy with bringing girls to the hotel?
Am I best to call then and have them meet me there? Or should I try clubs and bring them back with me? Should I get a second hotel that would be more accomodating?
Usually I have been to Mexico. I have started practising Portuguese to see what I can pick up in a few weeks.
If anyone is willing to show a Newbie around for a few nights it would be greatly appreciated.
I typically look for the type of girl I would have dated in college. Thin, firm body, small very firm real breasts, prefer average faces, like blowjobs more than banging, found girls who wear braces often give the best head, I don't know why.
I read through the first few forum pages, and it seems prices are little a higher than I guessed, That is not a huge concern for me, but lower is always better and I prefer not to get ripped off.
Anyone willing to help, let me know.
Marelobo[/QUOTE]
Cafe Photos new location has been ready for 18 months. The city officials have denied their lisence for opening. The old location has been sold and will soon be rebuilt to apartments. The future of Cafe Photo is uncertain.
So if you want to experience it I would go there now. Having said that Cafe Photo is not what it used to be. 10 years ago and prior to that it was the best hunting ground on the plant filled with GFE model types dressed to kill and ready to take care of their demanding upper/middle class Brazillian clientelle who would not accept gringo prices or piranha attitude.
After it became known to the players over the world it has become more tourist oriented. Many girls now speak English. The prices have increased to tourist level but worst of all it not that easy to find a true GFE who performs well anymore. They have grown acustomed to the tourists accepting CBJ and all the other limitations that tourists accept based on what they are used to from their home country. Many of the Cafe Photo girls now are only looking for excuses to cut your time short so they can go back to Cafe Photo to reel in the next pray. Many of the Cafe Photo girls also travel to Europe during the SP off season and learn how to restrict/handle their clients from those markets. The girls get away with this because the clients at Cafe Photo allow them to and are mostly not Brazilian. If you are looking for all night girl friend experiences with several rounds of sex including kissing on the mouth, BBBJ and ana,l Cafe Photo will not give you the best percentage of finding it at least without paying quite a bit.
Having said this there are also some real gems hidden among the piranhas at Cafe Photo.
BTW, I hear Cafe Millenium is open again.
GK
This is a report from a TD that was made Friday, October 30th.
I went out this evening to Redway, a privê in Vila Mariana which turned out to be one of my favorite places in São Paulo. As it was my first attempt this year in São Paulo, I went back to a sure value. As I mentioned earlier (somewhere in this board), Redway is a privê where you can find occasionally some gems.
[url]http://fanisex.com.br/home.html[/url]
I remember that last year I had some problems to reach this privê, especially at rush hours. It may be difficult, at rush hours, to leave Moema in order to reach Vila Mariana. This year, instead of taking a bus on Lavandisca, I picked up the bus on Rouxinol heading directly to Ana Rosa metro station. From Ana Rosa it very easy to walk to privê Redway which is located on rua Machado de Assis. From Ana Rosa metro station go South (in the direction of Jabaquara). Where Vergueiro splits with Domingo de Morães there's a MacDonald. Rua Machado de Assis is on the East side. Go down the street until rua Paula Ney (almost to the end, before reaching a small park Praça Rosa Alves da Silva). The adress is 449 rua Machado de Assis.
Before leaving my condo my intent was to try Dandara a scuplturesque ebony beauty which was described to me by one of my good friend from the national forum in Brazil. I should also add that I had the chance to see Dandara a couple of years ago at GP's birthday (the man behind the Gp Guia) at Solid Gold (in November 2007) while she was the date of the friend I referred to above. After working free lance for a couple of years, she's back in a prîvé.
When I arrived at Redway there were already three men waiting inside what I call the "second" waiting room. The first waiting room is a kind of patio with an aquarium, while the second waiting room is inside the house, just beside the stairway leading to the second floor. In that room there's two couches and a small fridge with beer and soft drinks. I didn't know the others men waiting in the waiting room.
That evening I didn't saw the owner (Fani which already knows me very well) but I was greeted at the door by her partner Cila (if I'm not mistaken). The first garota I saw, just besides the staircase, was Bebel. Bebel is a 28 years old garota with an outstanding personality. You cannot miss her because at first sight she may astonished her. Her look is not common : small mahogany hair, braces, one very big tatto on her belly and another big one on her back (if I'm not mistaken they represent Indians). Her face is kind of particular with small slit eyes. In a nutshell she is not a paragon of beauty but as I get to know her personaly more in details the following days, I can tell you that she has a very nice personality. It was Bebel who called the other garotas for the parade in front of me. She shouted "Apresentação".
I waited a couple of minutes for the traditional garota's defilé. There were about six girls available that evening. Three of them at least caught my attention. To be honest there were no 9 or 10 that evening, at most garotas near the 6 or 8 mark. Finally, I picked Laura. Maybe she was not the cutest in the bunch - I could rate her as a 7.5 - but I liked her attitude in the "apresentação".
Laura is a 21 garota with long curly light brown hair. She is very petite, almost no breasts and huge beautiful and expresssive bown eyes. Later, in the room, she said to me that she is the mother of a young boy. It's hard to believe if you look at her frame (5'2'' and 90 lbs) but she showed me pictures of her moleque with pride. I picked her up because she reminds me of a cute colleague at the job who's flirting me ...in other words I fulfilled a kind of a secret fantasy.
I went upstair with her in the red room, just beside the shower. Even if almost everything was on the menu (by that I mean DFK, DATY but if I'm not mistaken anal was not in the menu) I didn't try to DFK her. She gave me a CBJ (which is quite unusual at Redway) but she licked my balls and almost every parts of my body that can be sexuallly stimulated. She straddled me and I came in that position.
Even if the session was flawless (on my part if you take into consideration that I spend a lot of time traveling before landing in Sampa) I consider however that the session was average or even below average. I was expecting a garota like the sassy Bianca morena (a garota with the same frame who was working there a couple of years ago) but I find that Laura was not agressive enough in bed.
Considering this I don't recommend her. I left and I went back to my condo in order to rest.
Price: 80R$ for an hour.
Rport from a TD made Saturday October 31th
I went to bed early last night because I was tired from my flight and I also wanted to recover from my little escapade with Laura at Redway.
Today the first thing I did in this morning was to visit Memorial do Imigrante
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The Memorial do Imigrante (Museum of the Immigrant) is located in Mooca. This was my first incursion in that bairro and I was kind of eager to discover that traditional Italian neibourghood in São Paulo (nowadays it is mostly populated by Nordestinos). So I took the metro up to Mooca-Bresser metro station (on the red line). It was a very instructive visit.
Initially, my plan was to visit that museum and after that going to Pinheiros in order to visit two expositions in a contemporaryn art Gallery (the name of the gallery is Choque Cultural). The name of one of the exposition was «Os últimos dias do pôrno» (The last days of porno).
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But I had to change my plans very soon. In fact, I was so captivated by my visit at the Memorial that I stayed longer than planned. Many rooms were devoted to thematic themes: among them we can mention Italian, Japanese, Swiss, German, French immigration in Brazil. It was very informative, with a lot of artefacts and videos/short films devoted to different aspect of immigration in São Paulo. There was even a room devoted to immigration and coffee industry which was quite captivating.
The final blow game when I bought a couple of books in the gift store while I was ready to leave the memorial. One of the book I bought was «Pedestrian Historic Tours in São Paulo».
Guess what? One of the chapter in the book was devoted to a roteiro (circuit) in Mooca (where the museum is located). It was the perfect occasion to visit in depth that neighbourhood.
Strangely enough that day I met a Black American man on the corner of rua do Hippodromo and the Bresser Mooca metro station. That day I was wearing a black T-shirt with the inscription Corsica île de Beauté (a souvenir from a recent trip in Corsica). The guy was wearing a Los Angeles dodger sweater and a stray hat. He was was skinny and with a long beard. But the most important thing about him was the fact that he was carrying a big packsack and pushing something like a huge hockey bag on a small cart. We could perceived carpenter tools coming out from the hockey bag. He asked me if I was speaking English. I said yes, why? He said to me that he was a carpenter from Los Angeles and in need for money. He was ready to sell all his tools and he asked me if I could translate it to a certain person. As I didn't trust the guy (he looked like a crack smoker) I said no because I had no proof that the tools were not stolen.
I met him again, something like 25 minutes later, at the corner of Hippodromo and Alcântara de Machado where there is a big renovation center (and a MacDonald), and he was with no bags. I asked him if he sold his things. His only reply was: "God is bad, God is bad".
That afternoon I walked almost three hours under the sun (it was 29C). I came back to my appartment around 3h00 pm with a sunburn. There was a message waiting for me.
One of my friend from the GP Guia (Altobomgosto) said that he was organizing a party for me at the Redway with Dandara (the girl I was looking for and missed yesterday and that I saw with him back in 2007) So, he picked me up at my place, in Moema, around four and we went to Vila Mariana where the Redway is located. When there´s no trafic (like today) it´s a twenty minute ride (which is quick in São Paulo).
I met there a couple of the garotas that were working Friday night, but Laura was no there (and I dind`t care that much to tell you the truth). Dandara came and my friend made the presentation for me. I haven`t planned nothing yet because as I wrote above I was a little bit tired from my visit of Mooca.
As my friend is a regular at Redway we were entitled to spend some time in the backyard/terrace of the Redway - where there is a private patio - (habitually the regular customers are not allowed to go there) but today a kind of private party was held for me. There were plenty of beer and sodas for us (free of charge). The manager, Vani, ordered some pizzas and espetinhos for us. A lot of girls were sitting with us and we were having fun. I also met other members of the national forum susch as Eros.
Suddenly I spotted a girl that was unknown to me and also to my friend (Altobomgosto) her name is Angela and she`s a perfect ten on my list. Apparently she is new to Redway. A real morena (not the hair but the color of her skin: a honey hue) with curly browm hair and a body to die for. At that moment I was unaware that Altobomgosto had prepared for me a session with Dandara. I said to him that I would like to try try Angela. He said to me that I should not do that because she is new to the Redway and that he didn`t know if she has restrictions or not.
Altobomgosto was paired with Gabriela, a beautiful morena (a 7.5 on my list) while I was paired with Dandara (finally!). I was treated like a king that evening. They gave to Dandara a key to another house down the street. We went there the four of us (Altobomgosto, Gabriela, Dandara and me). The rooms in that house were huge and clean. I went into a room with Dandara and Altobomgosto went to another room with his date Gabriela.
Dandara went to the living room and put some music. My friend and his garota went first to the bathroom, after that I went with Dandara. I realized then, seeing me in the mirror, that my face was kind of red because I walked too long that afternoon unprotected under the sun.
Dandara is a 10 on my list. One of the most beautful face I have ever seen. The first time I saw her was in 2007 in a private party at the defunct Solid Gold on the Ibirapuera Blvd. She was then with Altobomgosto and the perfecttion of her face is I thing that was not forgotten.
She is maybe 5`7 with a tatto on her wrist, a big sun on her back and a rose on a ankle. Her breats are natural, maybe a 32B or C, I cannot really tell) with nice nipples, I knew that she is a mother, so I didn`t pay attention to the strech marks on her belly. Anyways I knew that she had stretch ,marks because my friend told me so. As I like women as they are, the strecht marks didn´t bother me at all.
Her skin is soft and she is semi-depilada (half shaved on her pussy: there is only a small patch of hair but her lips were totally shaven and clean. Everything was on the menu except anal (which I don´t really care).
She gave me one of the best BBBJ I have ever received in my life. Everything was perfect and she allowed me to come in her mouth (but she didn´t swallow). On the second round she was a real tigress. I spend two hours with her in the room. (R$140 was the price of the dammage)
After that we went back with Altobomgosto (in his car) and Gabriela to the Redway. There were even more pizzas for us and more beers and sodas. We chatted with the others members of the forums that wrere there and the girls. One of them was Rafaella (or Bebel, the girl I saw the day before at the door). Bebel/Rafaella is not the most beautifull girl but she was a lot of fun. Altobomgosto was very pleased to meet her again because he knew her from another place.
As I spend a little more than 2 hours with Dandadra, I paid R$150 instead of R$80 (for an hour). I had a great time with her.
Pics of Dandara/Laissa
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[QUOTE=Elfrances]
So I went for Charm's, rua Casimiro da Rocha. Sui Generis' indications are perfect. But it is closed. So I took a taxi to reach another of his preferred places: o 88a rua do Novo Cancioneiro (a detail here: in this part of the city. Brooklyn- there are many streets with "Cancioneiro" and my taxi got lost; be sureto go to "Novo Cancioneiro"). As Sui Generis says, reception is fine (the receptionist is pretty but actually a bit "gordita"), I was presented six girls, all of them doable. I chose Jessica. We went to the room, had a shower, and when we were naked she told me she is 37-years old. I could not believe it. Her face was maybe a 7. 5, but her body was a 9. 5 or more. A sweet tan, long black hear, large and firm natural tits (she even told me she had a breast reduction). Then it was much better than expected, beginning with a great BBBJ (without asking for). Then a very nice moment. After fucking, we chatted for a while (she was in no hurry, telleing me we had no reason to get out before one hour). Jessica told me she was a saleswoman until a few years ago, but she lost her job and entered the business. She also added she likes sex and was enjoying her job and would not return to a "straight" job now. I strongly recommand. A last detail. The receptionist is also honest, because I gave her two notes of 50 EUR (the same color as the 50 reais); she laughed and said "No, not these ones". Thanks Sui Generis, good recommendation. And be nice with Jessica, if you meet her.
El francés
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Salut El francés,
Oh just too bad. Unfortunately you didn't read all my posts because I wrote on one of my post that Charm's prîvé was closed. If I remember correctly they closed in December or early in 2009. Next time PM me I could give you some "private" tips.
On the other hand I'm glad that you had fun at Clinica Cancioneiro. It,s easy to find the street when you come from Santo Amaro and turn right at Roque Petroni Jr. I didn't visit the Clinicia Canioneiro (former PHQII) this year because I didn't have time.
I went instead to Hector's new club: Espaço Morumbi (formerly called Cubo Verde [Green Cube]101 rua Chafic Maluf, just beside Morumbi Shopping Center. I didn't saw Hecotr himself (it's always fun to meet that crazy man) but the girl at the reception was the same girl that was working as a receptionist at Charm's and PHQ1.
I will post later my report from Espaço Morumbi.
I went this morning to the Ibirapuera Park to do my physical exercices. There`s a portion of the Boulevard Helio Pelegrino and also of the Avenida Sirio-Libano that is transformed every Sunday as an area where you can practice sports (cycling).
I went back to my apartment to take a shower and change my clothes. I called Nicole Fernandes and she gave me her adress. her apartment is located in a tower just besides the Ibirapuera Shopping center. No registration at the front door.
Nicole is a beautiful 19 years old morena and she´s quite new to the business. There are only four reports of her on the GP Guia (all perfect notes) and the first one date back from October 24th. She is close to 5´6´´ with a perfect body. She look likes an university student.
She greeted me on the doorway with a big DFK. She was wearing a white negligée revealing her perfect forms. We took a shower together and she gave me a hard one while playing with my Peter with her hand under the water.
Everything was on the menu. A lot of DFK, BBBJ, balls licking. Her pussy was smelling good and she was very responsive while I was performing a cunnilingus on her. She likes to have sex and you can feel it. I came while I was doing her doggy style (D4).
While I was gaining some forces we chatted together while sipping cold beers. On the second round she asked me to perform anal sex because she´s crazy about it. I came in her little love hole.
200R$ for almost 2 hours.
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Went back today with my friend Altobomgosto to Redway. It was my intention to take the day off because today it was an holliday in Brasil (Dia dos finados = Day to celebrate the deads. The thing we have in Canada November 11th). Everything was closed today. The good part of it was that there were virtually no traffic on the streets.
I received a phone call from my wingman telling me that Vani´s house was open today (but with few girls). It was around 13h00 and I was just coming from the pool (today was another day hovering around 30c).
He picked me up at 16h00 and we finally hit Vani´s place, The Redway, at 16h30. We were greeted as usual with cold beer and good manners. Very few girls were working that afternoon: Mel a girl with an incredible body (but with a peculiar face...I don ´t know what, meaybe her eyes are too big for her head), two chubby blondes ( I dind´t remember their name), Bebel (Rafaella) an ugly beauty (dixit Thelonious Monk) with a nice body and a very good personality, and Pamêla: a morena in the 7 7.5 scale.
Picked up Pâmela. I (almost) received a GFE service from he^: BBBJ, DFK but no DATY (she refused to let me perform DATY on her). I respect that.
The negative point is that she was a little shy. On the other hand she compensated that attitude with a very caring attitude. Long DFK, an incredible BBBJ. She put a safe on my Peter and she straddled me quite a time. I took her doggy style. Before coming, I took off the safe and she sucked me again. I didn`t come in her mouth but it was still very good and I liked my session with her.
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REPORT OF A TD REALIZED NOVEMBER 5TH
Last May, in Ottawa, I met in an International Congress a man from Brazil (a Brazilian of Syrian origin), more precisely a paulista (a citizen of the city of São Paulo). We were friend immediately. We exchanged emails and he asked me to let him know when I would be in town. This summer, when I bought my ticket, I let him know what was my adress in Sampa.
Until Tuesday I didn´t have time to call him (sometimes I´m lazy). To my great surprise he called me in order to eat (almoçar : first big meal of the day: around 13h00) in Moema, my district.
He picked me up at my apartment and one of his friend (a Brazilian of Italian/Jewish origin)was with him. By the way his friend is living two streets (rua Tuim) from where I live (Araguari) They are both retired ingeners and each Thursday they traditionally have lunch together at a Japanese restaurant on Arapanes street at Ayoama.
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Where it is interesting is the fact that they are regular custommers there. So they are treated differently form other peoples. For example, my friend said to me that we will pay 35% less than the other people! Opa! The meal was exquisite. I recommend that place.
Went back to my apartment and there was a message for me. Altobomgosto was looking for me. I knew it was his birthday. So I called him back to say: Happy birthday (feliz niver!).
He said to me that tonight he would present me two girls from Campinas that are new to São Paulo. In fact hey are cousins. The plan was to have a party with these girls in a private apartment.
He picked me up at 18h00 and we went to Camilla´s place. It´s not far from where I live (I can walk the distance). It´s located in Vila Nova Conceição. It´s the last appartment building (on your right) on the Rua Baltazar de Veiga.
When we went there Camila and Agatha Lemos were there. Camila is a little bit too fat for me but she was a perfect hostess. She said to me that they used that local only to work and that they live at the Sonesta on Ibirabuera (in Moema). Altobomgosto already knew Agatha (she seems to be in love with him! I am not joking!). Just too bad because for me that girl was a perfect 10. She reminds me a little bit of the porn actress Monica Mattos.
AGATHA LEMOS
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That girl is fucking cute! She danced for us and I could grab her firm ass and even put fingers inside her wet pussy. Her bicos (nipples) are stunning. Beautiful green eyes.
My date, Julia Guedes, was on her way. It was obvious that Agatha was for my friend... When Julia came into the appartment I was not dissapointed. I remember that a couple of days ago I asked Altobomgosto that I would like to meet a blonde. There she was. Julia is aprox. 5´3´´. Not as sexy as Agatha (I was dying for her) but a good 8 in my book. She said to me tha she was coming back from Berlin (Germany) and that she didn´t llike to work there (She said to me that Germans don ´t know how to fuck). Uhh..the table was set for a wild night.
The girls (Agatha and Julia) put CD of themselves on the TV. Boy, I was so excited. Altobomgosto received a CD of pictures of Agatha and Julia as a gift.
Even if Julia was not my perfect type of girl (too young at 20 years old) she was so GFE that I couldn ´t resist her charms. She DFK me on the sofa and I perceived how soft was her skin.
JULIA GUEDES
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I went first with her in the room (there was only one room in the appt). My God! I was in heaven, I had one of my best Test Drive in Brazil this year. Her skin was so soft, plenty of DFK. She said to me that she loves 69 and anal sex. Spend a good tempinho with her. I came back to the salon and it was Altobomgosto´s turn with her lovely date.
Altobomgosto had bought whiskey and the fridge was full of cold beer. I spend the time drinking with Camilia and Julia talking in the salon while my friend was doing his thing. Julia was sitting besides me on the sofa and she didn´t stop to caress my arm and my hands and keeping to DFK me. Incredible.
We spend 5 hours there. Agatha went to a bakery and bought a cake for Altobomgosto. 5 hours of total debauchery for 150R$ (more or less 80$C). I love São Paulo!!!!!!!!
We left at 23h00 and Altobomgosto received a phone call on his cell. They were waiting him at Redway to celebrate him. A couple of members from the Gp Guia were there and among them was MvBill. The privê was close (it closes at 22h00) but they opened it for us. A couple a gilrs were still there: Estrella, Bebel, Mel and a girl on my wishlist: Jessica)
We drank a few beers and we left a little bit later. I didn´t like the atmosphere that late night. First of all, Vani ordered for us drinks and beers from the bar the other site of the street. The guy from the bar brought one more beer and he was trying to charge it to her. Vani didn´t like it and she began to have an argument with the guy. She´s a sweet woman, in her mid 30´s, but she used to work as an escort in Buenos Aires. In other words nothing seems to scare her. One of the girl try to calmed her and she began to scream at this girl.
Report from a TD realized Saturday November 7th
Ahhhhhh! Finally some light rain. It´s close to 00h15 and the temperature is still 24c.
As we are already Sunday morning, I´ll put in a nutshell my Friday and Saturday activties.
I wont talk too much about Friday because it´s basically private matters. There´s a long story still going on between Leticia Lima and me. As I lived practically besides her building, it´s hard to avoid her. I guess that avoiding is not the right word because that word carries negative connotations. In few words, she´s the garota I look for when I need a different kind of relationship. Had a good time with her and especially a good conversation (as we always does) and we exchange news about our respective family. She´s more a personal friend than a garota de programa, so I wont go into details.
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Saturday was another scorcher. I saw in the metro tonight (they have small tv sets - called Metro Mídia (Metro media) - displayng information in the trains and the busses ) that this morning was the hottest day since the last 8 months. I practically did nothing today. Spend the day reading at the pool, that´s about it.
Fell asleep, at noon, in my room (the recent days have consumated my energy). I was woke up by a phone call from Altobomgosto but I didn´t have time to answer. Call him back but I hit his voice mail and I left a message. He called me back around 6h pm telling me that he was with his oldest son and that he would go later to visit his mother at Boicatuva (outside of São Paulo, something like 150 km from Sampa).
I said to him that my plan was to go back to Vani´s privê (Redway) in order to try Angela (the bahaina girl I saw last Saturday thinking her name was Erika). I arrived there at 7h30 and when was the time for the apresentação (défilé) three girls only were available. I was lucky because Angela was one of them. I picked her up instantly.
Very beautiful bahaina girl with a canella (cinammon) color skin, 28 years old but looking 22.. Long curly hair and a beautiful face. This garota has also a big pairs of boobs...uma peituda! She´s the style falsa magrinha (slim waist) and almost all bahaina girls coxas grossas (athletic thights).
She was wearing a beautiful summer dress in the tone of blue and white. I complimented her on that.
We took a shower together and I saw how enormous were her breasts. Maybe a 38D. As they are natural they are a little bit saggy (but not that much). She is completly depilada (shaven).
When I go out with a garota I let the things happen by themselves. In other words I don´t choose a girl according to what she is doing or not as it is reported on the national forum. My prime motivation is the look. As she is relatively new at Redway (she started there two weeks ago) I knew I was working without safety net.
She started by kissing de selinho (with the lips closed). I knew then that DFK was not on the menu and I didn´t insist. What is incredible with this girl is that she can give you a blowjob (which was covered) while massaging your balls with her big breasts. She always maintains eyes contact with you and she looked like a real safada. She licked also my balls and my nipples. I licked also her nipples and grabbed and squezzed her big boobs. She enjoyed it. I din´t ask for DATY or any other position. After all I´m on the rhumba since more than a week and at 51 years old, I should take some time to rest my Peter. After 25/30 minutes I came, went back to the shower with her. We layed again on the bed and talked a little bit. I said to her that I was satisfied but unable to do a second round. I said to her that I will pay the full hour (which is 80R$ instead of 60R$ for 1/2h).
When I was about to leave the Redway, Cida (because Vani was not there) asked me if I was Altobomgosto´s friend. I said yes and why. She said to me that he had just called and he was on his way. She said that he asked if I could wait for him. I went with her in the front salon and she gave me a beer. Ten minutes later Dandara (Laissa) came down, I greeted her and she gave me a big hug. I said that I didn´t that she was working that night. She made fun of me telling me that I was a «traidor» (Você me traiu!) (a cheater). I like that girl, not only she is stunning but she is good company too, always smiling and ready to crack jokes.
Finally Altobomgosto arrived at Vani´s place. Whe chatted a little bit. He brought reviews of Angela on the Gp Guia. The three last reviews where devastating telling that she was full of restrictions and that she deserved not to pe paid 80R$. Hearing this she started to cry. We managed (Vani, Dandara, Altobomgosto and me to perk her up) As she is knew to the business, she seems to be fragile. Finally Altobomgosto was able to make her laugh.
Too bad I was very tired because Dandara asked me to go out with her (free of charge) in a Samba club to spend the rest of the night. She´s a hell of a dancer (I saw her dance once). I hesitated but finally I declined the offer because I was too tired. Was not sure either about the location In Santa Cécilia (maybe a dangerous place in my mind) and the fact that I don´t have a car here is a things that bother me. She gave me her private phone number and asked me to call her tomorrow.
I arrived at Moema around 23h00 that evening and I was a little bit hungry. I had supper at Estalagem, beside the Praça Nossa Senhora de Aparecida.
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TD from Monday November 9th
Sunday I went with my GF to the bairro of Ipiringa in order to visit the Museu paulista and the Independance Park (Parque da Independencia)
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We spend the afternoon contemplating the nice artefacts that were in displayin the museum. I was quite impress by the paintings of Benedito Calixto (1853-1927) (incidently I saw the Benedito Calixto Museum in Santos, last week) depicting the first encounter between the Europeans and the natives.
Spend the rest of the day with my GF.
Monday, early in the evening I went to the Espaço Morumbi, formerly known as the Cubo Verde (the Green Cube).
For the first time I did a TD there. I´ve visited the place (while it was the Cubo verde), two years ago, with my friend Shaman, but i did not try a garota then.
I went back by myself tonight. I had a little bit of difficulty to find the place because it´s on a small street and I arrived coming from Berrini instead of Santo Amaro. The streets were deserted at this time of the day. If you go there I suggest that you take a cab because if you look like a gringo it maybe dangerous.
The receptionist looked familiar. In fact she used to work at Hector (on Sapoti street). I have to tell you that Espaco Morumbo is own by Hector. My friend Hector was not there tonight...too bad. The receptionist also recognized me, adding : Você é o gostosão do Canadá! (You´re the very good looking man from Canada)
There were only two girls available. Three others garotas were already taken in other rooms. I choose immediately Debora.
Debora is a tall morena (about 5´7´´) with long black hair to the middle of her back. Beautiful face with big brown eyes and and enticing smile. She was wearing a beautiful dress revealing an voluptuous derriere.
We went upstairs and there was a big shower in a corner of the room. We took a cold shower because it was still abafado (hot and humid) outside.
The TD was cool. First of all, she asked me if I prefered a BBBJ or a CBJ. I said that I would like a BBBJ if it was possible. The only condition was that I should not come in her mouth. She gave me a good boquete (BJ) with a lot a saliva. Not the best BJ, but quite acceptable. After a moment she put a safe and straddle me.
I asked her to change position because I was ready to take her D4 (doggy style). I came in that position.
Total damage: 60R$ for 1/2h
For all your great Sao Paulo reports. I will be there again the first week in December and they will come in handy. So Redway is R$80 per hour?
[QUOTE=Hughdad]For all your great Sao Paulo reports. I will be there again the first week in December and they will come in handy. So Redway is R$80 per hour?[/QUOTE]Yes, I was there on Monday. It is R$80 for one hour. I met a girl there named Andrea and had a great time. Depending on the time you go, you sometimes have to wait for over 10-minute. But I was told by the girl that the prive has another hour down the hill for a few broughs. As a matter of fact, Andrea, Sabina, me and antoher monger went together to another house for our section.
I am tired now after meeting Andrea today and had a greta time in a motel. But I will post my trip reports soon in order to contribute back to the Forum.
Cheers
[QUOTE=Hughdad]For all your great Sao Paulo reports. I will be there again the first week in December and they will come in handy. So Redway is R$80 per hour?[/QUOTE]
It is, but you must be aware that some evening the place is crowded and you must be ready to wait a little bit before a room is free. Say hello to Vani, the manager, and tell her that the "Canadian" send you to her place.
With a urge inside of me to search for any potential business opportunities in this biggest economy in South America and 2nd lagest emerging market, I have begun a trip in Sao Paulo starting November 15 for one-week. Of course, I will not miss the opportunity in monering as well.
I have been a memeber of this Forum since 2005. But since I switch job in 2007, I have been away from this hunting ground for two years. In bewteen, I switch my battle field to the most active monering place in North America - Toronto, Canada. I have had great time there as well. But I will not promote any of my activities here as they are irrelavent to this Forum.
Arriving at GRU airport on Sunday Nov. 16, I was picked up by my friend and went straight to his apartment in Vila Marina. Along the highway to the city of Sao Paulo, you can see many constructions underway. While the Brazil as a country is preparing itself for the 2014 World Cup and 2016 Olympic, the government is investing lots of money in the basic infracture, such as bridges and higways etc. But for now, a congestied traffic into Sao Paulo is still a symbol of this city.
My friend and his girlfriend are very nice to host a simple lunch party for me in their apartment. I got the chance to meet a few of my old co-worksers and his friends. Lots of talking, food and beers make me really feel home. I do not plan to do any monering on Sunday since things are slow on Sunday. Thus, I went to bed earler.
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I woke up at 8:00am on Monday morning. My friend and his girlfriend had gone to work. The plan for me today is to walk around the Ave. of Paulista and visits some shopping malls. I feel it is the best time for me to monger.
My fist target is to track down Patricia Kimberly. She is well reviewed on GP Guia and one SP that speaks English in Sao Paulo. Since she has filmed some porn movies, she is considered as one of the best PSE service provider.
I was so urged that I called her at 10:00am. Of course, she was still sleeping. Although she was sleepy, she was very nice to answer my phone. I had my date set at 1:00pm. I felt released after I accomplished that. I did not know her address and her English is still not good enough to tell me the address in English. I speak no Portuguese. No problem, I texted her and she texted me back with her address. I looked up on Google Map and determined that I can walk to her apartment building from my friend’s place.
I arrived at her building on time. I called her from the lobby and informed her my arrival. Then, I was in a tail-spin to find the right elevator. The building has 3-wings (A, B & C) and they are connected through a door in between the elevators. But I was so confused that I can not find her apartment on the floor. Meanwhile, she kept sending me short text message and worry about where I was. I called her cell and she tried to explain to me how to use the door to get to her place. I could not understand. Finally, I took the elevator down to the lobby and re-started the process.
Knocked on the door, she opened the door with a big smile. She is a beautiful red-head at her mid twenties. We had a little chit chat and I went to the bathroom for shower. I will not get into details of the Fight. The Fight is intensive with lots of kissing and changing positions. I banded her hard and for some time with the help from Cialis 5mg I took for the day. I released my load in doggy style. After a short break, I tried to take a 2nd shot at her. She answered me with a smile on her face. Although she tried hard in BBBJ but I failed to turn hard on attack her pussy. I knew my body was still adjusted for the time difference and weather, I thus did not insist.
The cost is R$200 for an hour and it is worthy.
Kissing goodbye and I told her I will be back during the day. She told me Nova on Wednesday since she is going to film a porn movie.
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After leaving Particia's apartment, I was hungry. I figured the building was close to the Ave. Of Paulista and I walked towards that direction. I stopped by a restaurant and saw some people waiting outside for seating. I knew it should be good enough. It is a small restaurant serving typical Brazilian BBQ. It is simple and nothing fancy. It was good for me. Without speaking any Portuguese, it is difficult to wander in Brazil. But I had that type of experiences from my previous trips. I knew what I want – chicken, rice, french fried and a can of Guarana drink. After lunch, I continued to walk up the hill along the Ave. Of Augusta which is one of the famous streets for the night entertainment in Sao Paulo. The street is quiet and many clubs/bars are closed at that time – early afternoon. The weather was hot and I sweat a lot when I finally see the sign of Ave. Paulista. I knew I have to get some Real for the event coming up in an hour. I went into a big mall and ask for exchange place. The security guar understood what I meant but I did not understand what he said in terms of direction. He was so kind that he called another guard inside the mall and they help me step by step to the Novo Mundo. Taking care of money, I am rushing back to my friend's apartment.
During the search I did in the morning on GP Guia, I found the address for a prive called Red Way. This place is well reviewed and introduced by a senor member of the Forum – Sui Generis – the handsome guy from Canada?. Looking up on Google Map, I am surprised it is located a few blocks away from my friend's apartment. That is it – I feel that will be my major hunting ground for this trip. There is no way you can beat R$80 an hour price these days. $40/hour!
I walked down a long hill and found the house. It was around 4:30pm on Monday. I was buzzed in by a lady. I am not sure whether she is the owner Fani/Vani or not (I saw two names mentioned). She introduced the line up – the first girl showing up immediate caught my eyes. She is Angela (she sounded to me like Andrea in Portuguese and I mistakenly coded that name on my 1st post). Later, I searched on GPGuia and I guess she is Angela. On Sui's trip report, she was confirmed as Angela. The line up has about 7 girls and another three were working in the rooms – a total of ten – ample options for R$80. I sat there accompanying by Angela and she is a beautiful brunette and smiled at me all the time. I guess she knew I did not speak Portuguese but knew I tried very hard to communicate and not shy. We had chemistry from the beginning that resulted in a good session.
While I was drinking my soda, I met a local monger – a young guy who speak English. He picked a girl called Sabina (a brown with a brace). I believe Sabina also received good reviews on GPGuia and I would bang her if Angela was not there. All four of us talked, mixed with Portuguese and English. The local guy was the translator between me and Angela. I knew we liked each other as we started touching each other at the face and arms with light kiss exchanged. After 10 minutes wait, Angela suggested we go to another house down the hill and have the session there. All four of us went. When we arrived, the local guy told me Angela and Sabina suggested to me that I will spend the first hour with Angela alone and then Angela and Sabina will perform a threesome with me. Dude, that sounds very tempting and I never try that before. But I calmly decline the offer and told Angela I just want you for two hours! My decision was proved to be a turning point later. Stay tuned for that.
Angela is a beautiful girl and she is over 30 other than 28 mentioned by Sui in his report. She told me the true age after we became friend. Her body is top-notch and boos are spectacular. Indeed, she kissed with closed mouth but it did not bother me. During the 2nd hour, our tongues inter-twined together. Although it is still not considered as DFK, it was GFE and very sensual with her eye-contact. Blow job is covered and I did not insist. Like Sui said, she can massage your body with her two nice breasts and let you feel so good. I also asked her to perform Russian – sliding my dick between her boos – termed used a lot on the Toronto forum. It was nice.
The Fight was intensive as well. After the session with the PSE queen Patricia at noon, I considered I did a super-job with Angela and took a while to cum. A great Fight!
Since I know we have chemistry, I know I can probably hang out with her during my stay this week. I paid her R$200 for two hours, which includes a tip of R$40 for a standard rate of R$160 for two hours. On the way waking back to the first house, we laughed and chi chat. Then, she held my hand like her boyfriend. She asked me to stop by to have a ice cream. And then I asked her cell number. And that is it – I knew things will happen after this. See more details on my report for Day three and four.
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[QUOTE=JW Capps] But I was told by the girl that the prive has another hour down the hill for a few broughs. As a matter of fact, Andrea, Sabina, me and antoher monger went together to another house for our section.
I am tired now after meeting Andrea today and had a greta time in a motel. But I will post my trip reports soon in order to contribute back to the Forum.
Cheers[/QUOTE]
It's true. There's another house with two big bedrooms, a big living room and a clean bathroom. Moreover, when I went there, Dandara/Laissa opened the back door for me and she showed me a terrace where you can do churrascos (BBQ). The local is on the second floor.
I didn't saw the adress (because my friend was driving and I was already busy with Dandara) but I remember that it's on the same same side of street as the Redway.
A funny thing that I remember is that there is a big red chili pepper attached to the key chain of the second house...some like it hot!
Anyone know if the " teatro orion " still is there, and open ? adress ? any report? I remember it was a lot of fun there a few years ago...
Thanks from Michael
Yes, it is still there.
The adress is 753, rua Aurora (Bairro Republica)
They have a Web site: [url]http://www.teatroorion.com.br/[/url]
R$20 Entrance Fee
R$40 Room
Presentinho: To negociate with the garota (habitually it's R$100 or R$120)
[QUOTE=Genghis Khan]
BTW, I hear Cafe Millenium is open again.
GK[/QUOTE]
Yes it is. The opening day was November 10th.
Entrance fee at R$150 and garotas, as usual, around R$500/R$600.
Sui Generis:
I would be happy to meet you the next time I travel to SP, if you are there. You gave me good advice, and you seem to have to same attitude as me towards girls (plus: we seem to have the same age). But you seem to be luckier than me: I travel to SP only once a year; apparently, you are able to be there much more often.
Enjoy SP! (Joyeux à SP!.Google's translation)
Elfrances
Hi Hughdad!
All the infos about adresses and prices are on the sites: [url]www.4vip.com.br[/url], [url]www.clinicaantares.com.br[/url] and [url]www.onna.com.br[/url].
Unfortunately 4 estaçoes for the moment doesn't have any photo of the ladies. Normally I go there and simply choose. The last two ladies I was with were Paty at clinica onna and Nicoly at 4 estaçoes. But it sims they aren't there any more.
Patrick1
First, I would like to rationalize on my action of tipping Angela on Monday. I feel obliged to explain that since many members on this Forum do not like the idea of inflating the prices when mongering. However, I look at that from a different perspective. First, I re-position my focus on outcall and prive this time in order to contain costs. I used to do only outcalls on my previous trips. I have a good starting point at R$80 per hour this time. Then, I found Angela and I have built good chemistry at our first meeting. My decision is to stick with her as my preferred choice during my stay instead of reaching out to find new talents. Be honest, there is limited options for me as a monger who does not speak Portuguese. In other words, I face a higher risk of meeting an under-par provider than sticking with someone I have known and felt satisfied with. Therefore, I will pay a higher price to hedge any downsize risk for me. In my personal view, everyone should pursue his most comfortable way to monger and this is just my own strategy. I used the same strategy in 2007 when I met a girl named Fernanda on the website of Club Model. She spoke good English and was well reviewed on GP Guia. She since retired from the business. My strategy worked at that time.
On day three, I stayed in Guarulhos with another friend. He and his wife showed me the traditional way in Brazil how to welcome a friend. I was treated like a King with everything well planned and taken care of. They brought me to the biggest indoor market in Sao Paulo, where you can see many fruit stands and meat stands. I tried different type of fruits there and some of them are exotic. Then, we went to visit their coffee shop in a mall, which is close to a Metro station. My observation of things along the way rectified my impression that the regular life of a middle-class Brazilian has changed a lot during the past few years and their personal spending has grown steadily as well.
On day four, I went back to the city to take a conference call from my US office. As I was able to quickly complete the call, I figured I still have a few hours before I get back to Guarulhos, from where my friend and his wife are going to bring me to the beach at Bertioga – 50 (? I don't remember) KMs going east from the city of Sao Paulo. I called Angela and told her I would like to meet her at 1:00pm. She was not at work that day and was shopping with her close friend when I called. She finally agreed to see me at 1:00pm. At 1:00pm, I looked out the window from the apartment and saw her just passed my friend's apartment building and I called her name and went downstairs to let her in. We had a great Fight again. After the Fight, I suggested to having a lunch at a Japanese restaurant nearby. By this time, we have become close friends. Members, it is not so easy to do that since I don't speak Portuguese. But we managed to communicate with hand gestures and sometimes drawings on a piece of paper. It's fun! I pay her for two hours.
Since we have become close friends and she even showed me where she lives, I feel it is no longer fair for me to make any further comments in this Forum about her. Things happened after Day four became totally private between me and her, which includes a meeting on day six for three hours at a motel nearby. This is the first time in my life to try a motel and everything happened there was all good. She never asked for money while we were together but I left her some anyway by saying I do not have time to buy a gift for her.
Day five – walk on the beach at 10:00am since my friend's beach house is very close to it. It is quiet and you can only hear the sound from the waves/tides; Water is not cold at all; I jumped in with my friend and play diving (pretending only) for a while; Went back to his house and swam in the pool for while until I smelled the BBQ was ready; Return to Sao Paulo for a party at a disco club Vegas on Ave. Of Augusta at 11:00pm Got in the club around 2:00am and drank beer and danced till 3:30am Disco club and stay overnight is not my cup of the tea but I like to try once in my life time – not harm and I feel I really tasted the night life in Sao Paulo;
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[QUOTE=Sui Generis]Yes it is. The opening day was November 10th.
Entrance fee at R$150 and garotas, as usual, around R$500/R$600.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your great reports. Your advice and information are invaluable.
Can you tell me the location of Cafe Millenium?
How do the women at Cafe Millenium compare to Bomboa?
on day seven, she wanted to go out with me again. but i declined by excusing myself being busy in packing for my return to us. she later called my friend’s cell phone at about 5:30pm and saying she would like to just stop by and to say goodbye to me on her way to her sister’s house. members, this is hard because i do not know what to say to her as farewell speech. she really surprised me at this point. we met again and talked with the help from my friend for a few minutes. then, she asked me to accompany her to metro station of anna rosa since she would take the metro to her sister’s house. it was raining in the afternoon and i held a big umbrella for her while we were walking. we held hands and walked to the station. i was quiet along the way and only looked at her by turning my head from time and time. she looks beautiful as usual with the same charming smile on her face. her blue and white summer dress completely reflects her perfect body.
i know it is hard but it is time to say goodbye. we gave each other a big hug and hug together for a few minutes inside the station like two newly-wed couples. we finally kissed each other for goodbye.
my eye followed her into the gate before i turned my back. she first waved to me and then disappeared into the crowd. the rain was still dropping and i felt a bit lost for the first time since i first came to sao paulo in 2005. i guess this is sao paulo, a city which always fills with romantic stories, always dynamic, always fills with people with passion in love and soccer, and at last a city never sleeps.
i said to myself from my heart ------ i will be back!!
the end
note - the final charter of the report was completed in guarulhos international airport in november 22, 2009 before boarding.
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[QUOTE=Freedom3]Thanks for your great reports. Your advice and information are invaluable.
Can you tell me the location of Cafe Millenium?
How do the women at Cafe Millenium compare to Bomboa?[/QUOTE]
Café Millenium is located in Ipiranga.
The exact adress is: 1199 rua Coronel Diego. The nearest main street is Avenida Ricardo Jafet.
As I'm not myself attracted to this kind of venues (High End clubs), I'm not in a good position to tell you the difference between Bomboa and Café Millenium. In fact, I've never been there. As I've repeated it several time on this board, my limit is R$200 for a garota.
The only things I know is that most of the garotas that were working there are back (and some from the former Bahamas too). The good point for a gringo is that you'll be able to spot a garota which is fluent in Englsih and I guess that for some of our fellow hobbyists this is what they look for.
Sorry, I cannot say more about Café Millenium.
[QUOTE=JW Capps]First, I would like to rationalize on my action of tipping Angela on Monday. I feel obliged to explain that since many members on this Forum do not like the idea of inflating the prices when mongering. However, I look at that from a different perspective.
I used the same strategy in 2007 when I met a girl named Fernanda on the website of Club Model. She spoke good English and was well reviewed on GP Guia. She since retired from the business. My strategy worked at that time.
They brought me to the biggest indoor market in Sao Paulo, where you can see many fruit stands and meat stands. I tried different type of fruits there and some of them are exotic. Then, we went to visit their coffee shop in a mall, which is close to a Metro station.
[/QUOTE]
Tipping is a personal choice belonging to you. Some do it, some don't. If you prefer to do it, do it without guilt.
Fernanda. Hum... Was it Fernanda Morena living on rua Pintasilgo in Moema? If it's her, I'm sorry to tell you that now she's married.
You went probably to Mercado Municipal... a must see thing in São Paulo. Did you try their mortadella sandwiches?
[QUOTE=Patrick1]Hi Hughdad!
All the infos about adresses and prices are on the sites: [url]www.4vip.com.br[/url], [url]www.clinicaantares.com.br[/url] and [url]www.onna.com.br[/url].
Unfortunately 4 estaçoes for the moment doesn't have any photo of the ladies. Normally I go there and simply choose. The last two ladies I was with were Paty at clinica onna and Nicoly at 4 estaçoes. But it sims they aren't there any more.
Patrick1[/QUOTE]Thanks Patrick. I appreciate the info. I will report once I am in SP and useing all the great info provided by you and others here. Cheers!
Dear mongers
What are your opinion/experiences/favorite places about swing clubs in SP like Inner, Nefertiti, Bacantes.
Other hot crazy places?
Thanks
I arrived today and will be here until Dec 1. Anyone who would like to hang out with myself & my wingman are welcome to PM me. We are staying at the Mercure Saint Lawrence in Paraiso. Always looking meet up with new friends and explore new places that this city has to offer.
We will try to go to the 8th Anniversary Party of a local forum tonight. Supposedly with 200 available girls attending! Shall report back if successful.
[QUOTE=Max34]Dear mongers
What are your opinion/experiences/favorite places about swing clubs in SP like Inner, Nefertiti, Bacantes.
Other hot crazy places?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
From my experience , swing (suruba in portuguese) is one erotic activity that the open minded Brazilians have not yet mastered.
I visited the first two clubs that you have mentioned. I also visited Marrakesh (sp?).Problem is that the management allow single guys to get in (for a higher fee). That leads to having the single guys wanting to hit on your date. Swing becomes a threesome, 2 guys and a gal. Which isn't my cup of tea.
I also realized that most of the couples are shy in general. After they hook up, they typically adjourn to the private boxes rather then staying in the open area. Probably because they don't want to be hassled by the freeloader singles.
A club that I like to visit is casal e campaniah (sp?)
[url]http://www.clubparacasais.com.br/acasa.htm[/url]
The club is located in the posh area of Ibirapuera. Only couples are allowed in - hence the name. It is a small place which cater to about 10-12 couples on a good Saturday night. All the action happens on the second floor in the open. I do enjoy the red giant bed that fit everybody.
All of these places are located close to each other. I suggest that you and your date visit them all, then pick the one that you like the best.
[QUOTE=Sui Generis]Tipping is a personal choice belonging to you. Some do it, some don't. If you prefer to do it, do it without guilt.
Fernanda. Hum. Was it Fernanda Morena living on rua Pintasilgo in Moema? If it's her, I'm sorry to tell you that now she's married.
You went probably to Mercado Municipal. A must see thing in São Paulo. Did you try their mortadella sandwiches?[/QUOTE]Yes, it is Mercado Municipal. I did not try the giant sandwich but it looks amazing.
Fernanda. On GP Guia, she used name Marcia Fernanda as her email address. She speaks good English and I believed she is an Italian descendant. We met a few times when I was there in 2007 inclduing one overnight. The night she stayed over, she was a bit sad beacused of certain things happened to her in her life. It ended up we talked a lot in my hotel room while drinking wine. It was a pleasure meeting her. If she had married since then, I wish her the best in her moving on.
Sui, I would like to also take this opportunity to thank you for all the great reports you have shared with us in this Forum. Without those information, my experience in Sao Paulo would have been much harder. Thanks again.
BTW, are you still monegrig in Montreal or Toronto? The French Canadian is my favorite. I mostly do it in TO.
JW Capps
[QUOTE=JW Capps]Sui, I would like to also take this opportunity to thank you for all the great reports you have shared with us in this Forum. Without those information, my experience in Sao Paulo would have been much harder. Thanks again.
BTW, are you still monegrig in Montreal or Toronto? The French Canadian is my favorite. I mostly do it in TO.
JW Capps[/QUOTE]The aim of this forum (or any other forums) is to share information. I do my best to inform other hobbyists about what I know about São Paulo.
I am not mongering anymore in Montreal since 2007. I'll attend however the next GT at Hotel de La Montagne, December 5th.
I don't know if we're talking about the same Fernanda (in fact I' m unaware if she speaks English).
I know this isn't an escort related question, but does anyone know of any bars or pubs in sao paulo where I can find local brazilians who speak english? I found one post online for a pub named Finnegans. Has anyone here been there?
[QUOTE=Freedom3]I know this isn't an escort related question, but does anyone know of any bars or pubs in sao paulo where I can find local brazilians who speak english? I found one post online for a pub named Finnegans. Has anyone here been there?[/QUOTE]
I have not been to Finnegans for quite a few years. The place was quite nice, and there were women that spoke english well.
[QUOTE=Sperto]I have not been to Finnegans for quite a few years. The place was quite nice, and there were women that spoke english well.[/QUOTE]
There is also O'Malley's in Jardim.
A couple of years ago you could even spot Emanuelle Diniz (the porn actress) while she was hanging out there.
[url]http://www.gringoes.com/subcategoria.asp?ID_categoria=5&ID_subcategoria=123[/url]
If I were you I would try bars in the Morumb bairro (on Berrini Avenue for example) , near the US Consulate. This is the new business center where you are more likely to meet people speaking English.
Anyone been here recently?
Prices and Quality information?
Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=Sith Dude]Anyone been here recently?
Prices and Quality information?
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]
I go there now and then. I didn't visit the place recently but I guess it's the same quality as ever.
Clinica Kin is easy to find. It's on 235 Rua Prof Dr. José Marques da Cruz, near Roque Petroni Junior and Santo Amaro.
Phone: (11) 5181-9026
There's a good concentration of clinicas and prîvés in this area; you can even walk from one place to another. Inthis area you will find Clinica New Berrini (just in front of Kin), Clinicia Novo Cancioneiro (the former PHQ2), Privê Jaceru and finally, Espaço Morumbi.
At Clinica Kin the price for a session is R$130 and this includes a GFE service. If you're unable to make up your mind after the apresentação you can look at the pictures of the girls in a book.
There's an English speaking garota working there: Hanna.
The place is clean but there's no bed, just a mattress on the floor.
Do you know if any of these places have air conditioning? It will be smack in the middle of summer and I sweat a lot already with the AC on. I'll like exploring that circle, but it will be for naught if the facilities are lacking. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Sui Generis]I go there now and then. I didn't visit the place recently but I guess it's the same quality as ever.
Clinica Kin is easy to find. It's on 235 Rua Prof Dr. José Marques da Cruz, near Roque Petroni Junior and Santo Amaro.
Phone: (11) 5181-9026
There's a good concentration of clinicas and prîvés in this area; you can even walk from one place to another. Inthis area you will find Clinica New Berrini (just in front of Kin), Clinicia Novo Cancioneiro (the former PHQ2), Privê Jaceru and finally, Espaço Morumbi.
At Clinica Kin the price for a session is R$130 and this includes a GFE service. If you're unable to make up your mind after the apresentação you can look at the pictures of the girls in a book.
There's an English speaking garota working there: Hanna.
The place is clean but there's no bed, just a mattress on the floor.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Voyajer1]Do you know if any of these places have air conditioning? It will be smack in the middle of summer and I sweat a lot already with the AC on. I'll like exploring that circle, but it will be for naught if the facilities are lacking. Thanks.[/QUOTE]All MP I have seen through the years have A/C
Can't be any different as often room shave no windows to the outside.
[QUOTE=Voyajer1]Do you know if any of these places have air conditioning? It will be smack in the middle of summer and I sweat a lot already with the AC on. I'll like exploring that circle, but it will be for naught if the facilities are lacking. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I don't know for Espaço Morumbi and Cliníca Novo Cancoineiro.
They have it in New Berrini and Kin.
I will be in Sao Paulo at 12 December. Please inform me girls and price, I'm waiting for number and adress of sao paulo girls. Thank you for your opinion / experiences / favorite places.
I had a few minutes to kill so I thought I would head over to Kin. I had never been there, and taxi driver had a ***** of a time finding it. I made sure to mark it on my Iphone gps so I can find it next time. It is NOT easy to find the first time despite what others say.
Anyway, I entered. Hung out in the waiting area until the presentation of the girls. The prices are R$100 for 1/2 hour, 140 for hour, 180 for 2 girls/1 hour. I chose Bia (blonde) for half hour. Since it was my first time I just wanted to gather info this time and next time concentrate more on my enjoyment.
I go up to the room. When Bia enters, she asked what I would like. I said BBBJ and she said "only with camisinha". I laughed and said, no way. She asked if I would like another girl. I said yes, send the brunette in the black bikini up. She called from the room, apologized, then left. The brunette came up (can't remember her name) and was a 5 star winner. I left happy despite the bullshit at the beginning. There is a/c in the room. Massage table and mattress of the floor. They put a clean sheet on the mattress. Just a lesson, do not accept what you don't want. You are the customer. They will get things right if they want your return business.
[QUOTE=Zambakkk]I will be in Sao Paulo at 12 December. Please inform me girls and price, I'm waiting for number and adress of sao paulo girls. Thank you for your opinion / experiences / favorite places.[/QUOTE]
Feeling to lazy to do a forum search?
I will arrive in Sao Paulo this week end and I am planning a trip to Cafe Foto on Monday afternoon (hopefully it's open). Any fellow monger care to join.
I will certainly report on how it compares to Globe in Zurich, my current favorite entertainment spot.
If you care to join me send me a private message!
I'm one night in Sao Paulo on Saturday. I've not been here for 2 years.
Prefer english speaking girls to take back to the hotel. What is my best option today? Café Photo, Bomboa or Café Millenium?
[QUOTE=Ednes]I'm one night in Sao Paulo on Saturday. What is my best option today? Café Photo, Bomboa or Café Millenium?[/QUOTE]
Bomboa has a great Saturday afternoon feijoada buffet with samba ao vivo (from 2pm). Great atmosphere and lots of nice meninas. A good option indeed.
Hello, people! I have the great misfortune of being in Sao Paulo next Sunday, that too for only one day. I saw that almost all of the usual haunts are closed, it is really breaking my heart. Does anyone know of some places that are open on Sundays? Or, can anyone provide contacts of good freelancers/escorts- if possible those who can speak English or Spanish?
[QUOTE=Cutty Sark]Hello, people! I have the great misfortune of being in Sao Paulo next Sunday, that too for only one day. I saw that almost all of the usual haunts are closed, it is really breaking my heart. Does anyone know of some places that are open on Sundays? Or, can anyone provide contacts of good freelancers/escorts- if possible those who can speak English or Spanish?[/QUOTE]
I do know some places that are open; not the best ones though. For example there is a Privé in Praça da Árvore, not too far away from the Santa Cruz metro station. I went there only once in November 2008. The premises were okay, there were clean towels and some garotas were above the 7.5 mark.
The only problem was with the service per se. It was a little bit mechanical and I received a CBJ.
Privê Clube das Rosas - Rua das Rosas, 732 - Praça da Árvore
70R$ 1/2 140R$ 1h
I'm not quite sure about this but I think that Privê Eucalyptos in Moema is open Sunday (it's open 24/24).
657 avenida do Eucaliptos, Moema (11) 5041-4658
60R$ 1/2 120R$ 1h
Sabrina Mello is an outstanding garota speaking English fluently. For the moment, unfortunately, you must forget her. I read on the GP Guia that she will moove (at the end of this month, after her university session) to Rio de Janeiro untill May 2010.
[QUOTE=Sui Generis]I'm not quite sure about this but I think that Privê Eucalyptus in Moema is open Sunday (it's open 24/24).
Sabrina Melo is an outstanding garota speaking English fluently.[/QUOTE]Thank you, Sui Generis for the much needed information. Do you have the address for Eucalyptus, or any site where I can get Sabrina Melo's number? Google did not help.
I landed at Guarulhos one March evening with a heavy heart- I had come to know before leaving that the little piece of paradise, Bahamas, was closed. It was always the best reason to take the long trip to Sao Paulo and I was already missing it..
I had also read about Bomboa on ISG and therefore decided to try it out. I headed there after a quick shower at the hotel, my wallet substantially lighter due to the two taxi rides. I was missing Bahamas even more while at Bomboa. The girls were nice, but not as nice. The setting was good but not as good. The lingerie was not even close.
I greased the captain a bit and he fingered a blonde languishing in the corner. She was slim, medium height, with a great face, and a very well cared for body- I couldn't have asked for more. Sadly this is where it ended. She was pushy. This first thing she did (sorry I don't remember her name) was ask for an expensive drink. I grudgingly agreed, but was then alarmed by the alacrity with which she gulped it down, asked another pushy girl to join us at the couch, and then demanded two more drinks! I tried to explain the economics to her- there was only so much money and it could go either to the bar or to her directly. What I got in return were dirty looks, muttered abuses (I assume) and a clear presentiment that this would not be the greatest night for me.
It was a sordid episode indeed- she made me wait 20 minutes while she got her bag, another 20 minutes while she "showered", and then made it clear that there would be no BBBJ, no FK, no DATY, no backdoor and (this I assumed) no interest on her part whatsoever. I think I would have done better by just bunging my equipment in a washing machine. In a (thankfully) short time, I was out of the room and back in the lobby, leaving the lovely lady fuming and sulking in turn, about my "no tip" response.
The only other thing I could do to salvage the evening was to get some food. I bought a burger from the food counter and started chomping on it broodingly. The view was not very good, once again I was looking at the 6's and 7's gathered around and longing for Bahamas. At that time, a tall, extremely curvaceous, dark skinned, dark haired girl passed my table. I could not help gaping at her voluptuous body and her beautiful face (this was a bit difficult to do with a full mouth). After that my eyes kept following her while I finished my dinner, and then I promptly sidled up to her. I was too disappointed to hope for much to happen after the recent turn of events, but I did plan that maybe I could set something up for the next day.
Aline greeted me with a dazzling smile. She spoke great English, was very friendly yet demure- in general extremely pleasant company. I was, however, more engrossed in admiring her absolutely fabulous body. She told me (surprise surprise) that she earlier worked at Bahamas and that it was the greatest club ever, and what a shame it was that it was closed down. I could have kissed her! Oh wait- I did, repeatedly.
I trudged to the room once again. The GGFE (great GFE) continued there, with lots of DFK, fondling etc. Aline didn't seem to get enough of it, which worked well for me. We showered together, and the sex after that was wonderful. Everything was on the menu, and with such a great body and with such great response from Aline, I made it a point to do full justice to the menu.
As I came to know later, my real life fantasy was just beginning to unfold.
Great sex was followed by a great massage. This done, I offered to give a massage to Aline, too- I still had not got enough of the feel of her body. She seemed to enjoy it a lot, and then offered to come with me to my hotel, or to take me home with her. After the long flight and two most extraordinary encounters, I decided not to push my luck and instead promised her that I would be back the next day for more.
She was there the next evening as well and we met like old friends. She talked about a lot of things (I forget what because once again I was more focussed on ogling) and then she said something which really caught my attention. She said that some time ago, one of her clients asked her to invite a second girl to the room, and though at first she felt uncomfortable, she later really enjoyed it, and now she does it quite often. She asked if I was interested- I could not believe my luck! Immediately, Laura was invited to join the party.
Laura had jumped right out of a Playboy centerfold. She was also tall, and was slim with long blonde hair and pouty lips. She had a saucy, raunchy, provocative attitude that really excites me but yet makes me suspect that things may not be that great behind closed doors (ref Pushy Blonde 1 from last night). I had noticed Laura before that evening, but I would never have picked her for these reasons.
Turned out that I was wrong! Laura pushed herself right into my lap and wrapped herself around me immediately. I was already ecstatic about Aline's great DFK, but as soon as Laura joined in, we started a 3 way DFK that blew my mind! This continued for a while, along with a lot of other stuff- I don't know how to describe it, sort of a double GFE!
I was too starstruck to negotiate too much- I vaguely remember some conversation where monetary matters were settled, probably by Laura. (I think total damage was about R800). The action then continued in the room. Like the elements a Rubic's cube being solved, our bodies went through many permutations and combinations. The best part was that the two girls were very different during sex because of the vast differences in their personalities, but both very good! This was the best sex I have ever had. Time stood still while we took turns to pleasure each other. And then we started again, with about the same effect. It was perfect!
This was the last day of my visit. I semi-planned to stay in touch with Aline/Laura, but then I decided that it was much better to leave things as they were- any further action could spoil the perfection!
In case you had the patience to read through all of this, I thank you for your attention. I think this story has a moral. With this episode, I gained so much happiness and contentment that I am sure I am now a better person! I can now encourage others too, to spread the happiness.
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Cutty Sark
I've edited my post where I was speaking of Privê do Eucaliptos. The adress is there.
Concerning Sabrina Melo, she will quit buiseness this month. (Read my edited post below)
11 7525-6396 (São Paulo)
[url]http://www.cityoflove.com/detail.aspx?lang=pt-PT&dID=25037&dStaffID=8073&Digest=+sNV6Nb+vH4EKD8+970Zhw[/url]
Hi, I am a newbe in Brazil (but veteran in China, see reports). I am thinking of hitting a clinica in SP, but I am not sure whether tip for masseuse is always needed. I read the report on American Center, which is where I am thinking of going, and there doesn't seem to be a tip there. But in other posts, people are paying 100-150 for house and 150 for garota. Please advise.
Thanks
[QUOTE=SaoPauloB]Any websites for shuttles from Sao Paulo airports to hotels or flats?[/QUOTE]
Shuttles wont bring you directly to your hotel or your flat.
An alternative is
Guarucoop taxi service.
I am trying to figure out if bahamas club is still closed or not. Can someone confirm? If it is closed, I suppose the best next choice is Cafe Photo right?
Cheers
[QUOTE=SaoPauloB]So there are shuttles and they only drop at certain locations?[/QUOTE]Your hotel may opearte a direct shuttle - so contact them and ask.
Or as SG suggests - a taxi service.
Another cheaper alternative, shuttle to Rodoviario Tiete and Metro from there - provided your hotel is close to metro stop and you do not have much luggage. But you have to want for the shuttle at GRU. Takes 25 minutes to Tiete (without traffic). Certainly not the quickest way
[QUOTE=La Loicmoi]I am trying to figure out if bahamas club is still closed or not. Can someone confirm? If it is closed, I suppose the best next choice is Cafe Photo right?
Cheers[/QUOTE]
Bahamas is closed for good and even sunk in the Bermuda Triangle.
Oscar Maroni, former owner of the Bahamas, has another club outside São Paulo. Never been to the new location. I don't know more than what is reported in the different national forums.
Check this video
[url]http://www.vbs.tv/watch/the-vice-guide-to-sex/the-vaginal-entrepreneur[/url]
I forgot to mention that Scandal is the new name of the Millenium.
So, while in São Paulo, look for Scandal instead of Millenium
Abs.
[QUOTE=Sui Generis]I forgot to mention that Scandal is the new name of the Millenium.
So, while in São Paulo, look for Scandal instead of Millenium
Abs.[/QUOTE]
I think its Scandallous or Scandalles. BTW anyone in town? I arrive tomorrow.
GK
[QUOTE=Genghis Khan]I think its Scandallous or Scandalles. BTW anyone in town? I arrive tomorrow.
GK[/QUOTE]SP is shut down with flooding. No one in or out for the next 12 hours. Flights too from what I understand. I was supposed to be heading there tomorrow from my home in MG. Changed to next week now.
[QUOTE=Genghis Khan]I think its Scandallous or Scandalles. BTW anyone in town? I arrive tomorrow.
GK[/QUOTE]
Thank you GK to pinpoint that the name of the ex-Millenium is not Scandal.
The real name is Scandallo Lounge
Scandallo Lounge (ex-Café Millenium)
1199 Rua Coronel Diogo- Ipiranga
Phone: 2066-2700
Entrance Fee / Drinks : Men : R$ 150,00 (100 reais for the drinks and 50 reais for the entrance fee). Women (entrance fee): R$ 50,00
Price for a bottle of Red Label: R$ 350,00
Suítes : R$ 90,00 /hora
Garotas de programa : R$ 250 /350,00 (If you bargain it can drop to 200 reais)
Parking lot: R$ 15,00
Site: [url]http://www.scandallolounge.com.br[/url]
Have a good trip GK.
By the way, will you attend the big party tomorrow at Bom Vivant (in Pinheiros). Mega party organized by a local forum.
[QUOTE=Dagevin]Hi, I am a newbe in Brazil (but veteran in China, see reports). I am thinking of hitting a clinica in SP, but I am not sure whether tip for masseuse is always needed. I read the report on American Center, which is where I am thinking of going, and there doesn't seem to be a tip there. But in other posts, people are paying 100-150 for house and 150 for garota. Please advise.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
those prices are pretty much accurate - in general - in all MP in SP.
[QUOTE=SaoPauloB]Any websites for shuttles from Sao Paulo airports to hotels or flats?[/QUOTE]
as somebody suggested take the taxi from the airport. Just outside the doors, at the kerb there is the counter of Guarucoop taxi service.
You state where you have to go and pay there, cash/credit card. They then point you at one fo their taxis waiting. very good service, no price surprise and the pre-paid price is quite accurate if compared to a meter running ride. Fact is that SP traffic sometime is weird and the meter runs also with times not only with distance. So the pre-paid option is a win-win.
Sui Generis,
The original plan was to attend the Bom Vivant party but my friends have arranged a special party for me which I can't decline.
GK
Thanks Sui Generis and Albert Punter for answering my earlier questions.
I will be in Sao Paulo next week and looking to have some fun at night.
If anyone is willing to show a Newbie around it would be greatly appreciated.
I typically look for the type of girl I would have dated in college. Thin, firm body, small very firm real breasts, prefer average faces, like blowjobs more than banging, found girls who wear braces often give the best head, I don't know why.
I read through the first few forum pages, and it seems prices are little a higher than I guessed, That is not a huge concern for me, but lower is always better and I prefer not to get ripped off.
Anyone willing to help, let me know.
Marelobo
[QUOTE=Marelobo Mex]Thanks Sui Generis and Albert Punter for answering my earlier questions.
I will be in Sao Paulo next week and looking to have some fun at night.
If anyone is willing to show a Newbie around it would be greatly appreciated.
I typically look for the type of girl I would have dated in college. Thin, firm body, small very firm real breasts, prefer average faces, like blowjobs more than banging, found girls who wear braces often give the best head, I don't know why.
I read through the first few forum pages, and it seems prices are little a higher than I guessed, That is not a huge concern for me, but lower is always better and I prefer not to get ripped off.
Anyone willing to help, let me know.
Marelobo[/QUOTE]
Just too bad Marelobo, I'm not currently in São Paulo. I was supposed to stay there until late March but I received an offer to teach a new course in one university in my birth- and hometown, Montreal. So I went back there and I'll spend the whole month working on my next course. :(
In fact, we're even having our first snow storm today (we're expecting between 25 and 30cm).
But let's go back to your answer. São Paulo is not that expensive. I think it could even be less expensive than Rio when it comes to P4P. There's an array of brothels (privês) where you can have fun for less than 200R$ (for almost two hours). Habitually the price for an hour session in a prîvé is 80R$. You can pay less but the quality o the girls is also low.
For 80R$ you have garotas in the 6 up to the 8, 8.5 range. Sometimes you can find a 9 or 10. The garota can even give you her cell number and you can see her outside.
I was surfing the web and came across the Karla Loira Escorts Site.
[url]http://www.karlaloira.com/principal.htm[/url]
I didn't see any mention of it in the forum, was wondering if anyone had any experience or it isn't mentioned because it is not good.
Marelobo
[QUOTE=Marelobo Mex]I was surfing the web and came across the Karla Loira Escorts Site.
[url]http://www.karlaloira.com/principal.htm[/url]
I didn't see any mention of it in the forum, was wondering if anyone had any experience or it isn't mentioned because it is not good.
Marelobo[/QUOTE]
One of my good friend in Brazil knows her very well and if I'm not mistaken he had a big argument with her on a national forum. I'm busy tonight (I have to shovel!). I'll come back with a complete answer tomorrow or Friday.
I do a lot of research befor going anywhere. I agree with you; Sao Paolo is way cheaper that Rio if you take your time. I've got together with at least 8 model types (At least 5'10" tall, 36-24-36+ of various cup sizes) that did not cost me more than 120 Reals for an hour of fun and more fun. Just go explore the many "Clinicas" in Sao Paolo if you get a chance. You will be extremely surprised with the quality GDP's that are out there. If you don't like what you see, go to the next one. There are well over 300+ Clinicas and Prives in Sao Paolo. They can't all be low quality. Just a few more weeks...
[QUOTE=Sui Generis]Just too bad Marelobo, I'm not currently in São Paulo. I was supposed to stay there until late March but I received an offer to teach a new course in one university in my birth- and hometown, Montreal. So I went back there and I'll spend the whole month working on my next course. :(
In fact, we're even having our first snow storm today (we're expecting between 25 and 30cm).
But let's go back to your answer. São Paulo is not that expensive. I think it could even be less expensive than Rio when it comes to P4P. There's an array of brothels (privês) where you can have fun for less than 200R$ (for almost two hours). Habitually the price for an hour session in a prîvé is 80R$. You can pay less but the quality o the girls is also low.
For 80R$ you have garotas in the 6 up to the 8, 8.5 range. Sometimes you can find a 9 or 10. The garota can even give you her cell number and you can see her outside.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Marelobo Mex]I was surfing the web and came across the Karla Loira Escorts Site.
[url]http://www.karlaloira.com/principal.htm[/url]
I didn't see any mention of it in the forum, was wondering if anyone had any experience or it isn't mentioned because it is not good.
Marelobo[/QUOTE]
Ok, I made my homework.
At first I tought you were refering to Karla Loirinha, this is why my answer was long to come, but this morning I saw that Karla Loira is an escort site. In that case my answer is an easy one: Don't trust it because it is an agency, period.
There's a negative mention of this agency on a well-known national forum. It appaears that some photos are photos of european models (to be honest I think that some garotas look Brazilian enough to me!). Moreover, among the girls that are listed I don't know any of them...and this is a sure sign that something is wrong (in all modesty)
This is the principal reason why there's no mention or report of a session with a girl from this site on our forum.
[QUOTE=Sui Generis]Thank you GK to pinpoint that the name of the ex-Millenium is not Scandal.
The real name is Scandallo Lounge
Scandallo Lounge (ex-Café Millenium)
1199 Rua Coronel Diogo- Ipiranga
Phone: 2066-2700
Entrance Fee / Drinks : Men : R$ 150,00 (100 reais for the drinks and 50 reais for the entrance fee). Women (entrance fee): R$ 50,00
Price for a bottle of Red Label: R$ 350,00
Suítes : R$ 90,00 /hora
Garotas de programa : R$ 250 /350,00 (If you bargain it can drop to 200 reais)
Parking lot: R$ 15,00
Site: [url]http://www.scandallolounge.com.br[/url][/QUOTE]Went there for the first time. About 20min 25R from centro. First this place is huge, its brand new inside and is much nicer than cafe photo or bomboa. The food is pretty good too. They told me they have 200-300 girls a night. One of the nicest boites I've been to in the world. I took a girl out for 500R for all night which is a bargain compared to photo or bomboa. The expensive part is the exit fee to take the girl out 180R +150R entrance fee. You have to pay the two transactions in separate areas since the hotel is part of the club. Surprised they kept the hotel considering what happened to them last time. The girls there range from 5-9. Didn't see any 10's but I'm sure there are some on the busier nights. There's a translator there for those that can't speak portuguese.
[QUOTE=Sui Generis]Bahamas is closed for good and even sunk in the Bermuda Triangle.
Oscar Maroni, former owner of the Bahamas, has another club outside São Paulo. Never been to the new location. I don't know more than what is reported in the different national forums.
Check this video
[url]http://www.vbs.tv/watch/the-vice-guide-to-sex/the-vaginal-entrepreneur[/url][/QUOTE]That was a great video.
Can you tell me the name of his new club?
Do the national forums say good things about it?
Thanks SG and V1,
I appreciate the advise I will steer clear.
Marelobo
[QUOTE=Freedom3]That was a great video. [/QUOTE]
Especially the part shooted in Love Story !
Funny to see that Oscar Maroni spends his late nights in LS (as undoubtedly many of his girls), that he qualifies of "greatest disco in the world".
The guy has taste.
[QUOTE=Freedom3]That was a great video.
Can you tell me the name of his new club?
Do the national forums say good things about it?[/QUOTE]
The name of the new club is TOUCH CAFE
[url]http://www.touchcafe.com.br/[/url]
and it's located in São José dos Campos
From the reports posted on the national forums the club in itself is nice but it's a little bit expensive for the quality and the number of the girls that are working there. I think that we can deduce that it doesn't worth a trip from São Paulo. Actually, it seems that there,s better venues in Sampa. In toher words, it's not the BAHAMAS not even an imitation of it....
NB: I've never been there myself
[QUOTE=Tommy America]Speaking of which: I was in SP this past week. Romanza was closed again by the police during F1 week. Apparently, a waiter presented a customer with a bill for over $20, 000. So the patron called the police on the spot. Police responded and. Wonder of wonders. Told him that his was one of many similar complaints. Police decided this was the last straw and closed Romanza indefinitely on the spot.[/QUOTE]So I went there this week and its at a new location in a house. First floor living room has their old furnitures and 2nd floor has bedroooms and 3rd floor attic is a club like area. Strange setup but same old people work there. They said they will be back to other location in Jan. Regardless I'm never going back. I arrived with maybe 15 girls inside and maybe 5 other guys there. The girls there were all harden look, pros for a while. The better ones went somewhere else to work since the new location isn't a nice place to work. After 10 min of talking to 2 girls they asked me for 50R tip. I said I have to go. I asked for my tab so I can exit and the same scam waiters there said 50R. I said for what I didn't drink anything. It cost 100R to enter without drinks. Then the door man ask for the tab and 50R tip and I said for what I was here 10 minutes. After that they try to get me to use the house's taxi which is beat up cars without meters scam. I had enough of that place. The management has ran it to the ground finally.
[QUOTE=Hobbying] ... I took a girl out for 500R for all night which is a bargain compared to photo or bomboa. The expensive part is the exit fee to take the girl out 180R +150R entrance fee ... The girls there range from 5-9. Didn't see any 10's but I'm sure there are some on the busier nights ... [/QUOTE]
What a bargain! Only about 800R or close to $500 US for one girl, one night.
I'm sure glad I'm good at finding gems about the city for much less or for nothing.
As always, to each his own :)
[QUOTE=Ricker]What a bargain! Only about 800R or close to $500 US for one girl, one night.
I'm sure glad I'm good at finding gems about the city for much less or for nothing.
As always, to each his own :)[/QUOTE]I'm not as slick as you.
The same girl would cost 500 USD for 1 hour in the US so to me its a relative bargain. I do try to balance it out by going to a clinica in the day time first.
I was with a girl that was in playboy brasil but those kind of gems are hard to hold on to but it was great while it lasted. I can't say she was for nothing since her shopping was expensive but she never asked me for money. But we pay for it one way or another later. I'm trying to get over her by seeing as much gdp as I can while I'm in SP.
[QUOTE=Hobbying]I'm not as slick as you.
The same girl would cost 500 USD for 1 hour in the US so to me its a relative bargain. I do try to balance it out by going to a clinica in the day time first.
I was with a girl that was in playboy brasil but those kind of gems are hard to hold on to but it was great while it lasted. I can't say she was for nothing since her shopping was expensive but she never asked me for money. But we pay for it one way or another later. I'm trying to get over her by seeing as much gdp as I can while I'm in SP.[/QUOTE]
Well, it's not that I'm "slick", it's more that I'm not rich enough to shell out that kind of cash on one garota :)
I don't fault guys for spending their hard-earned money any way they like.
I understand that some guys only travel and visit occassionally and want to take advantage of their limited time.
I fortunately am in Sao Paulo quite frequently and would go bankrupt spending that kind of money on garotas.
I have found many beautiful, fantastic garotas for much less. I could care less if they've graced any magazine pages, they're just as beautiful but more humble is all.
Thanks for the reports and "boas festas" !
[QUOTE=Hobbying]I was with a girl that was in playboy brasil but those kind of gems are hard to hold on to but it was great while it lasted.[/QUOTE]
Met a former (she had a short photo reportage maybe three or four monthes before) Playboy Brasil "coelinha" freelancing in Love Story. From Londrina. Tall, blond, curvey and the whole Paranaense package. I introduced her to a friend of mine who had no portugese, they partied a bit at our table, meshed well, and finally went back to his hotel for 200R "a noite inteira" (she had her own car). In Sao Paulo she worked in Romanza if my memory serves.
Quite a routine in Love Story where good-looking girls (from all SP upmarket boites) in party mood abound.
[QUOTE=Prosal]Met a former (she had a short photo reportage maybe three or four monthes before) Playboy Brasil "coelinha" freelancer in Love Story. From Londrina. Tall, blond, curvey and the whole Paranaense package. I introduced her to a friend of mine with no portugese, they partied a bit at our table, meshed well, and finally went back to his hotel for 200R "a noite inteira".
Quite a routine in Love Story where good-looking girls in party mood abound.[/QUOTE]All night for 200R? Love Story nights start late; they end late, too? Or, did this not happen any time recently? Considering that you reported yourself in Tbilissi earlier today. That's quite a transit feat to pull off.
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Prosal
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[QUOTE=Prosal]Met a former (she had a short photo reportage maybe three or four monthes before) Playboy Brasil "coelinha" freelancing in Love Story. From Londrina. Tall, blond, curvey and the whole Paranaense package. I introduced her to a friend of mine with no portugese, they partied a bit at our table, meshed well, and finally went back to his hotel for 200R "a noite inteira" (she had her own car). In Sao Paulo she worked in Romanza if my memory serves.
Quite a routine in Love Story where good-looking girls (from all SP upmarket boites) in party mood abound.[/QUOTE]
What are the best nughts for Love Story? Wednesday and Thursday?
[QUOTE=Sangue Bon]What are the best nughts for Love Story? Wednesday and Thursday?[/QUOTE]
Definitely Monday to Thursday, when girls from all upmarket boites and nearby strip clubs appear like fireflies to party. On weekend, the ratio men/women is not in our favor, and anyhow it's SO packed that you can hardly move (in fact sometimes you can't move at all, and just going to the toilets is a feat), which is annoying.
Remember that Love Story is a total morgue until before 3am, and then it rocks till 6/7am, later on weekends. If you need to reserve a table in the VIP area facing the dance floor (IMO a must in LS, especially on weekends), ask Raoul, the "gerente", at the door. A Black Label bottle will cost you around 400R/450R refrigerantes included.Don't forget to tip the waiters, they are undoubtedly some of the most efficient club employees you'll ever have.
[QUOTE=Zingadoon]All night for 200R? Love Story nights start late; they end late, too? Or, did this not happen any time recently? Considering that you reported yourself in Tbilissi earlier today. That's quite a transit feat to pull off.[/QUOTE]
?? What drug are you on ??
Why the fuk should I be in Sao Paulo to post about Love Story ?? Don't know why I even bother to answer to this raving BS nonsense. You like flaming don't you ? Anyway just the fact that after 100 posts and one year on this site you still don't pay the 19.90$ subscription to upgrade your regular member status and participate to the forum maintenance shows what you are.
From my experience..its gets packed, around 2 am
very hard to move around..very loud as well
[QUOTE=Zingadoon]All night for 200R? Love Story nights start late; they end late, too? Or, did this not happen any time recently? Considering that you reported yourself in Tbilissi earlier today. That's quite a transit feat to pull off.
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Happy Xmas and NYE period from Tbilissi, Georgia.[/QUOTE]Let's be fair here dude. Where did Prosal say this was last night? Obviously this was not last night. He was simply giving some info.
And I am spending some time this week in Sao Paulo (and will post in a few days). My first mongering trip here. Some of the ladies at the prives and clinicas have been surprisingly top-notch for under R$100. I also have used a website for in-calls to a motel or visited their flat. R$200 for 2 hours (or more) with a beautiful 10. Amazing ladies. I was expecting Sao Paulo to be more expensive than Rio.
[QUOTE=Prosal]Definitely Monday to Thursday, when girls from all upmarket boites and nearby strip clubs appear like fireflies to party. On weekend, the ratio men/women is not in our favor, and anyhow it's SO packed that you can hardly move (in fact sometimes you can't move at all, and just going to the toilets is a feat), which is annoying.
[/QUOTE]
Ok, I am going to Rio early next year but there is a slim chance Help might be closed and if it is I may take a side trip to Sao Paulo to visit Love Story. I figure I can catch a bus(6 hours?) from rio to SP at 12 noon on a Tuesday get there by 6 pm. Book a room at the Best Western(Close to LS?) catch a nap and enter LS by 1 am for warm ups and watch the games begin. Then I can return to Rio Thursday. I think it's doable, any comments would be appreciated.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjcYSYQdkPY&NR=1[/url]
[QUOTE=Sangue Bon]Ok, I am going to Rio early next year but there is a slim chance Help might be closed and if it is I may take a side trip to Sao Paulo to visit Love Story. I figure I can catch a bus(6 hours?) from rio to SP at 12 noon on a Tuesday get there by 6 pm. Book a room at the Best Western(Close to LS?) catch a nap and enter LS by 1 am for warm ups and watch the games begin. Then I can return to Rio Thursday. I think it's doable, any comments would be appreciated.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjcYSYQdkPY&NR=1[/url][/QUOTE]Why waste your vacation time on a bus?
When you could fly there really cheap and be there in no time.
[QUOTE=Sangue Bon]Book a room at the Best Western(Close to LS?) catch a nap and enter LS by 1 am for warm ups and watch the games begin. Then I can return to Rio Thursday. I think it's doable, any comments would be appreciated.[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjcYSYQdkPY&NR=1[/url][/QUOTE]
Closest hotel to LS is Comfort Hotel Downtown (former Mercure). Same street, rua Araujo.
Don't go at Love Story at 1am. It's a morgue. Better hit one of the N.Pestana strip clubs (Kilt or Vargao) until 2am. Then LS is a 5/7 mn walk, no problems to do it late at night.
Cool video, thanks. It perfectly shows the mood of partying in Love Story, which is undoubtedly the best disco on the planet in the history of mankind, bar none.
[QUOTE=Sangue Bon]Ok, I am going to Rio early next year but there is a slim chance Help might be closed and if it is I may take a side trip to Sao Paulo to visit Love Story. I figure I can catch a bus(6 hours?) from rio to SP at 12 noon on a Tuesday get there by 6 pm. Book a room at the Best Western(Close to LS?) catch a nap and enter LS by 1 am for warm ups and watch the games begin. Then I can return to Rio Thursday. I think it's doable, any comments would be appreciated.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjcYSYQdkPY&NR=1[/url][/QUOTE]SB,
Check out fares on Gol into Cong. airport in SP. They may even fly from SD airport in Rio - making it convenient on both ends. Very cheap fares if you book well in advance. Bus is probably like 6 to 7 hours for around R$70 each way. Check out Cometa and 1001 Onibus sites.
I am finding the SP women to be spectacular.
[QUOTE=Hughdad]. I was expecting Sao Paulo to be more expensive than Rio.[/QUOTE]
I'm glad to read this remark on this forum.
When it comes to hobbying, Rio is a lot more expensive (and homogeneous) than São Paulo.
In Rio you'll find mainly garotas (mulatas) coming from the poorest parts of Brazil. You'll have a hard time if you're looking for a bloonde with a white complexion or a ruiva (redhead) with blue eyes). Basically, you'll find the same type of garotas : B' girls. That's about it.
The configuation, the selection is different in São Paulo. The garotas are more diversified, classier and, in general more educated and goodl-mannered.
The other difference is in the price. Beside Help and Termas (with their 45 minutes session!) there's not too much to do in Rio (expect the beaches which are Rio's biggest asset). (I'm puzzled when I consider the fact that there's virtually no hobbyists from this board reporting sessions with garotas in boates like Barbarella, for example) Rio is for tourists and the prices are for tourists also...
In São Paulo you can have a decent GFE session (full hour) with garotas in the 8, 9 or (oh lucky bastard!) 10 range. It happens in some privês. If you push your luck, you can even end up with the cell number of the garota and be able to combine a night (or something else) with her for the ridiculous price of 200R$ (compare with the 300R$ for 45 min in a Terma).
There are plenty of things to visit in São Paulo. Bookstore, theaters, shopping center, restaurants are everywhere.
If you feel for a dip in the sea, just take a bus (Jabaquara station) and go to São Vincente, Guaruja or Santos. It's only a 45 minutes ride...the time of a session with an expensive garota in Rio!!!!
Beside the heavy rain that is falling over São Paulo (this year was probably the worst year of all time) I'd like to report another sad news:
Since the beginning of December (more exactly Saturday 12th 2009) Clinica Kin is closed.
They're planning to reopen the joint in January.
[QUOTE=Prosal]
... Don't go at Love Story at 1am. It's a morgue. Better hit one of the N.Pestana strip clubs (Kilt or Vargao) until 2am. Then LS is a 5/7 mn walk, no problems to do it late at night.
Cool video, thanks. It perfectly shows the mood of partying in Love Story, with is undoubtedly the best disco on the planet in the history of mankind, bar none.[/QUOTE]
Just too bad it doesn't get going til soooooo late (for me anyway).
By the way, I like to hang sometimes at the place across from Kilt, called My Love. I find it much more relaxed and friendlier than Kilt, not to mention less expensive for drinks.
Also, has anyone else happened upon a little free-lance club near the area of these above mentioned strip clubs??
I bumped into a garota, I had met before in one of the strip clubs, walking to this free-lance club and she had me accompany her on her walk to work.
[QUOTE=Sui Generis]The other difference is in the price. Beside Help and Termas (with their 45 minutes session!) there's not too much to do in Rio (expect the beaches which are Rio's biggest asset). (I'm puzzled when I consider the fact that there's virtually no hobbyists from this board reporting sessions with garotas in boates like Barbarella, for example) Rio is for tourists and the prices are for tourists also...[/QUOTE]
I agree that São Paulo has much more to offer than Rio when it comes to P4P, but Rio also has a decent P4P-scene in Centro which isn't directed to tourists. R$ 1/minute-casas, lots of casas de massagem and VM close by. What I find impressing in São Paulo is the wide range of P4P. At the top the places where GK hangs out, and in the bottom a scene that's so extremely low and trashy that even I wrinkle my nose. Ed Itatiaia, R d Andrades 69, BJ-cinemas and streetwalkers so ugly that they give you goose bumps.
I guess São Paulo beats Rio in all aspects except when it comes to beauty of the city, beaches and easygoing cariocas. I've been in São Paulo many times, but I could never stand the city for more than one week. It's so huge and people stress like they do back home.
[QUOTE=Sperto] in the bottom a scene that's so extremely low and trashy that even I wrinkle my nose. Ed Itatiaia, R d Andrades 69, BJ-cinemas and streetwalkers so ugly that they give you goose bumps.
I've been in São Paulo many times, but I could never stand the city for more than one week. It's so huge and people stress like they do back home.[/QUOTE]
In these respects you're damn right.
A couple of years ago I did a trash tour with local friends (the report is on one of the national forum) down there. They made fun of me because I was looking so disgusted. In Rio you have (or had?)the same thing in the streets near Cinêlandia and Praça Maua. Garotas so ugly that you even don't wish to see your worst ennemy sleeping with them.
What is a real pain in the ass in Sampa is the traffic and the weather. This week it's raining cats and dogs.
I've come to terms with the dimension of the city but not with the bad weather.
I hear what you're saying - though apart from the generalised personality trait differences between paulistinas and cariocas, I think I'd probably disagree with everything in your post you've said about Rio. Valid enough as a sort of SP viewpoint, but enough to get you ostracised in the beautiful city of RJ. If anyone is seriously unable to find much to do in RJ please PM me- and I assure you I'm no 'redneck' lol. :)
[QUOTE=Sui Generis]I'm glad to read this remark on this forum.
When it comes to hobbying, Rio is a lot more expensive (and homogeneous) than São Paulo.
In Rio you'll find mainly garotas (mulatas) coming from the poorest parts of Brazil. You'll have a hard time if you're looking for a bloonde with a white complexion or a ruiva (redhead) with blue eyes). Basically, you'll find the same type of garotas : B' girls. That's about it.
The configuation, the selection is different in São Paulo. The garotas are more diversified, classier and, in general more educated and goodl-mannered.
The other difference is in the price. Beside Help and Termas (with their 45 minutes session!) there's not too much to do in Rio (expect the beaches which are Rio's biggest asset). (I'm puzzled when I consider the fact that there's virtually no hobbyists from this board reporting sessions with garotas in boates like Barbarella, for example) Rio is for tourists and the prices are for tourists also...
In São Paulo you can have a decent GFE session (full hour) with garotas in the 8, 9 or (oh lucky bastard!) 10 range. It happens in some privês. If you push your luck, you can even end up with the cell number of the garota and be able to combine a night (or something else) with her for the ridiculous price of 200R$ (compare with the 300R$ for 45 min in a Terma).
There are plenty of things to visit in São Paulo. Bookstore, theaters, shopping center, restaurants are everywhere.
If you feel for a dip in the sea, just take a bus (Jabaquara station) and go to São Vincente, Guaruja or Santos. It's only a 45 minutes ride...the time of a session with an expensive garota in Rio!!!![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Christopherd]I hear what you're saying - though apart from the generalised personality trait differences between paulistinas and cariocas, I think I'd probably disagree with everything in your post you've said about Rio. Valid enough as a sort of SP viewpoint, but enough to get you ostracised in the beautiful city of RJ. If anyone is seriously unable to find much to do in RJ please PM me- and I assure you I'm no 'redneck' lol. :)[/QUOTE]
My POV is probably outdated. In fact, the last time I spend in Rio was in 1986. I know (or knew) the city fairly well at that time (I lived there two years from 1982 to 1984). But already then I had problems with the amount of tourists that were invading the city and the fun spots.
Maybe times have changed but then I was unable to cope anymore with hords of drunken gringos trying to have a session with a garota and unable to utter a simple word in Portuguese.
I think that on this aspect Rio may be worst than before.
But I may be mistaken.
I have been using the search tool to get some info. on apartment rentals in SP. But it is very limited in this forum. Does anyone have any experience or info. with apartment rentals for short term stay ( minimum for 1 week stay, possibly 2 or 3 week stay)?
Is it worth it or is a hotel stay better? 9 out of 10 times I usually rent an apartment when visiting Rio. But I get the impression that it is not as common in SP.
I usually prefer apartments because its more economical, and more privacy. But I would be open to staying in a hotel if it would be more practical and/or cheaper than an apartment. Not sure since I am not familiar with SP. Any thoughts, suggestions, or opinions? Thanks!
[QUOTE=Mangera]I have been using the search tool to get some info. on apartment rentals in SP. But it is very limited in this forum. Does anyone have any experience or info. with apartment rentals for short term stay ( minimum for 1 week stay, possibly 2 or 3 week stay)?
Is it worth it or is a hotel stay better? 9 out of 10 times I usually rent an apartment when visiting Rio. But I get the impression that it is not as common in SP.
I usually prefer apartments because its more economical, and more privacy. But I would be open to staying in a hotel if it would be more practical and/or cheaper than an apartment. Not sure since I am not familiar with SP. Any thoughts, suggestions, or opinions? Thanks![/QUOTE]
Mercure Apartments are definitely the way to go in Sao Paulo. They are about 2x cheaper than in Rio, and usually offer good weekend and long-stay discounts.
There's some 20 branches all over Sao Paulo. The hardest thing is to choose your bairro; Moema, Pinheiros, Jardins and Itaim Bibi/Vila Olimpia are the best choices. Moema is on a refreshingly human scale compared to most other parts of town. The Mercures (3 or 4 branches in Moema) are near to a big mid to upperscale shopping mall (Shopping Ibirapuera), and beside the Ibirapuera Park which is huge, nice, and very clean. There's also many good restaurants in Moema. The only minus of the neighborhood is that it's very remote from Centro P4P nightlife options, and taxis are rather expensive in SP. Pinheiros is an unpretentious and friendly bairro, closer to Centro, with many lively pubs, bars, live music venues, ect and IMHO the best area to stay for a "party-goer", as it is halfway between Republica and Itaim Bibi/Vila Olimpia. Also the Mercure is located on the same street as Bomboa, which is definitely a plus !. Itaim Bibi and adjacent Vila Olimpia are the epicenter of Sao Paulo regular nightlife, with literally hundreds of venues, and you can't be wrong by staying there. Jardins is the equivalent of Leblon in Rio, with lots of posh stores, nice trendy terraced cafes, ect, but few nightlife. Nonetheless it's an enjoyable neighborhood to stroll around during the day, and it's also rather central, which makes it a good option to stay. Another interesting location,where there's also a Mercure, is Bela Vista, which is the new neo-bohemia "in" bairro that goes up, and that have the big advantage to be very central near Paulista (MASP) and Republica (Love Story, Augusta and N.Pestana strip bars, ect) neighborhoods.
[url]http://www.accorhotels.com.br/mercure/[/url]
As for exploring SP, remember that you can hit one different great P4P place every night, 7 days a week and during 3 monthes without even begin to discover all that the city has to offer. And I'm not even talking about regular nightlife, which is undoubtedly the most various and active on the planet. To chime in the below discussion, compared to Sao Paulo, Rio is a joke.
[QUOTE=Mangera] Does anyone have any experience or info. with apartment rentals for short term stay ( minimum for 1 week stay, possibly 2 or 3 week stay)?
Is it worth it or is a hotel stay better? 9 out of 10 times I usually rent an apartment when visiting Rio. But I get the impression that it is not as common in SP.
I usually prefer apartments because its more economical, and more privacy. But I would be open to staying in a hotel if it would be more practical and/or cheaper than an apartment. Not sure since I am not familiar with SP. Any thoughts, suggestions, or opinions? Thanks![/QUOTE]
There's not much to add to Prosal's excellent answer. His description of the different barrios is quite accurate.
To his suggestion of Mercure flat/hotels I may add the following flats services that are also excellent.
Travel Inn flat service
[url]http://www.travelinn.com.br/redehoteis.asp[/url]
Transamerica Flat services
[url]http://www.transamericaflats.com.br/default.aspx?pageid=83A56AA69AA54AA70AA52A3A57A8&navid=40[/url]
Riema Flat Services
[url]http://maps.google.ca/maps/place?hl=fr&source=hp&rlz=1R2SKPB_frCA348&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=riema+flats+sao+paulo&fb=1&gl=ca&hq=riema+flats&hnear=sao+paulo&cid=5736064711093313827[/url]
I prefer flats (apt) for different reasons. Among them I may list the following ones:
1) You can cook your own meal. I especially like to do my own breakfeast and sometimes fix a light lunch. Prosal mentionned Mercure (Excellence) which is located near Bomboa. Beside a nearby metro station (Clinicas) there's a Pão de Açucar (supermarket) on Teodoro Sampaio and another grocery store (I don't remember the name of that one) on the corner of Teodoro Sampaio and Oscar Freire.
2) Guests are allowed
3) Very large and multiple wardrobe
4) You have the feeling of being at home because there are several; rooms in the apt.
5) les expensive than an hotel but with the same services (pool, wireless Internet, TV sets, etc.)
What kind of weekly or monthly rates for these apts?
I'll be posting my experiences from the past several days in SP in the next few days while I get a few few hours. And my thanks again to Sui Generis, JW Capp and Patrick here for there invaluable info. If you are thinking about a SP mongering trip go back and read their posts in this forum as a starting point (IMO). Thanks again guys.
Quickly, I wanted to note my exceptional experience with Andrelly from Club Models at Hotel Lido yesterday (Saturday). The lady is a knockout and a real sweetheart. Pure class with an infectious laugh. I was attracted to her very classy, stylish photos on Club Model. She does justice to her terrific photos and her breasts are real and spectacular. I also learned my Porto studies are taking hold as I was able to converse freely with her and hold her attention and had great laughs. (She does not speak any English.)
Lido was convenient for getting a session set up over the phone and I wanted to experience a SP love motel experience. Got a luxo hidro suite for 4 hours for R$70 and they had a special where a nice lunch was included for free. So not bad at all. (Note: subways in SP are very convenient, clean and easy to use.)
Andrelly showed up right on time at noon, 30 minutes after I checked in. I opened the door to a spectacular looking lady with a wide smile, lips made for kissing and those smoldering f' me eyes. Amazing eyes. Tight jeans and a tight white blouse with the girls bursting out. She leaned in right at the door and planted a long, hot DFK on me. Still kissing, she backed me up into the room. Right up against the bed canopy post. We ended up spending over 3 hours together. In the bed, in the shower, on the floor, against the mirror wall, at the little dining table. Highlights included her kneeling in the shower and giving me an amazingly long BBBJ which ended with CIM, her covering her breasts with the carmel sauce from the flan at lunch, and the longest 69 session I think I ever had with a new mirrored view overhead. (I don't think she does anal, but I wasn't looking for it, her pussy is super tight.) And a great conversion over lunch with me mesmerized by her natural breasts that are so firm and perfect. Ultimately super hot GFE. A great comfort level. Amazing, tireless kisser. My mouth and lips are still numb. When she cums it is a great thing to watch and feel. I'll be seeing her in early January when I am back.
[url]http://www.clubmodel.com.br/acompanhantes-sao-paulo/index.php?option=com_modelos&task=perfil&id=1313[/url]
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Here is a summary I have made from the various postings.
Cafe Foto: R$190 entrance fee, no exit fee.
Bomboa: R$180 entrance fee, $R100 exit fee (to take a lady to my hotel).
Scandallo: R$150 entrance fee, R$180 exit fee (to take a lady to my hotel).
The following applies to each club equally:
-The fees for the ladies are about $R300 for an hour or two and up.
-Some ladies may speak english, but most won't.
-The ladies range from 7s to 9s.
Anyone disagree or want to comment on the above?
[QUOTE=Sui Generis]
I prefer flats (apt) for different reasons. Among them I may list the following ones:
1) You can cook your own meal. I especially like to do my own breakfeast and sometimes fix a light lunch. Prosal mentionned Mercure (Excellence) which is located near Bomboa. Beside a nearby metro station (Clinicas) there's a Pão de Açucar (supermarket) on Teodoro Sampaio and another grocery store (I don't remember the name of that one) on the corner of Teodoro Sampaio and Oscar Freire.
2) Guests are allowed
3) Very large and multiple wardrobe
4) You have the feeling of being at home because there are several; rooms in the apt.
5) les expensive than an hotel but with the same services (pool, wireless Internet, TV sets, etc.)[/QUOTE]
Fully agreeing! Most of them even have an inhouse restaurant.
The "home" feeling is second to none, offers the chance to warm up in a living room environment before moving straight to bed for the action.
[QUOTE=Hughdad]Quickly, I wanted to note my exceptional experience with Andrelly from Club Models at Hotel Lido yesterday (Saturday).[/QUOTE]
She looks wonderful.
What was her rate?
[QUOTE=Hobbying]What kind of weekly or monthly rates for these apts?[/QUOTE]
It depends of different factors (the location, square feet)
here's an example for a flat in Bela Cintra with a monthly rate below 2,000R$
[url]http://www.belacintra.com.br/PRECOS.HTM[/url]
A useful site is the following one:
[url]http://www.aluguetemporada.com.br/saopaulo/saopaulo/rentals.cfm[/url]
[QUOTE=Hughdad]
(I don't think she does anal, but I wasn't looking for it, her pussy is super tight.)
[/QUOTE]
You're right, she doesn't give anal. She's new as an escort. Only 6 reviews on a national forum, since the beginning of December. So far 6 positive reviews. I think I'm gonna check this honey in April...
Thanks Hughdad for a wonderful report of an escort in SP. She looks beautiful. I have always heard that women in SP are simply spectacular. What was her caché btw?
I have followed with great interest the exchange in here between the Rio regulars and the SP ones. I am a Rio regular but I have yet to taste SP. I have been dozens of time in SP but never left the GRU airport as it is always my point of entry into Brasil and a connecting point to the other parts of this wonderful country. After reading the past few pages of this thread, pus what friends have been telling me about SP, I'm more than ever interested in getting to know this humoungous city. Thanks all again for all the great info on SP. Prosal, I enjoyed your description of some of the bairros of SP.
Valeu gente.
[QUOTE=Hughdad]
Quickly, I wanted to note my exceptional experience with Andrelly from Club Models at Hotel Lido yesterday (Saturday). The lady is a knockout and a real sweetheart. Pure class with an infectious laugh. I was attracted to her very classy, stylish photos on Club Model. She does justice to her terrific photos and her breasts are real and spectacular. I also learned my Porto studies are taking hold as I was able to converse freely with her and hold her attention and had great laughs. (She does not speak any English.)
[url]http://www.clubmodel.com.br/acompanhantes-sao-paulo/index.php?option=com_modelos&task=perfil&id=1313[/url]
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Great and efficient report. How much was costing her trouble to you?
the website does not seem to mention any rates.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Sperto]She looks wonderful.
What was her rate?[/QUOTE]Sorry. R$200 for 90 minutes, R$250 for 2 hours. In addition, I tipped her as we stayed over 3 hours. We really just had a great, easy going time together. And like I said she actually measures up against the classy, stylish photos her friend photographer took that appear on Club Model. A real GFE gem if you are in the mood for that. For what it is worth, she said she does not do the Love Story scene. Appeared very wholesome, no cigarettes or alcohol in my presence.
[QUOTE=Sprite13]Thanks Hughdad for a wonderful report of an escort in SP. She looks beautiful. I have always heard that women in SP are simply spectacular. What was her caché btw?
I have followed with great interest the exchange in here between the Rio regulars and the SP ones. I am a Rio regular but I have yet to taste SP. I have been dozens of time in SP but never left the GRU airport as it is always my point of entry into Brasil and a connecting point to the other parts of this wonderful country. After reading the past few pages of this thread, pus what friends have been telling me about SP, I'm more than ever interested in getting to know this humoungous city. Thanks all again for all the great info on SP. Prosal, I enjoyed your description of some of the bairros of SP.
Valeu gente.[/QUOTE]I was also very impressed with the quality and service of the ladies at the few lower cost prives/clinicas I visited (R$80 to R$150). I'll post on these in a few days. As I mentioned some recent reports in this forum (Sui Generis, JW Capp and Patrick1) led me to those locations. All the ones I visited were located very close to Metro stops. I'll be exploring SP more in January.
[QUOTE=Bionicman]Great and efficient report. How much was costing her trouble to you?
The website does not seem to mention any rates.
Thanks[/QUOTE]CM is a site of independents, not an agency. So all the ladies establish their own rates and you contact them directly. Many also entertain in their flats.
SPlove is another such site.
[QUOTE=Bionicman]Great and efficient report. How much was costing her trouble to you?
the website does not seem to mention any rates.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]
For what I know the cachê is supposed to be R$200. By the way this is the standard rate for a 1h1/2 to 2h session with a free-lance garota in São Paulo.
Nowadays some garotas tend to ask for R$250 or R$300 but they're a minority.
[QUOTE=Sui Generis]For what I know the cachê is supposed to be R$200. By the way this is the standard rate for a 1h1/2 to 2h session with a free-lance garota in São Paulo.
Nowadays some garotas tend to ask for R$250 or R$300 but they're a minority.[/QUOTE]After some time on GPGuia site, I have found that the standard rate is pretty much R$200 for 90 minutes / R$250 for 2 hours with most of these free-lance garotas from most of these higher end sites. A few seem to ask for R$300 or R$350 because I guess they feel they have something special to offer (like an amazingly bulbous butt). But I can't see the need to pay those rates, especially with the top-flight beauties available for around R$200. I also discovered some appealling, well-reviewed independents on GPG for R$120 to R$150 (for 2 hours) and checked out their blog site photos. And then there are the prives starting under R$100 for an hour. (I visited Redway R$80 and Clinica Antares R$150 /hr). I actually found some of the women at these lower priced places very attractive and eager to please (full report coming.)
On Sui Generis' recommendation (and a perfect score on GPG) I also sessioned
With Nicole Fernandes from Club Model. A tight, sexy 19 y/o beauty that can only be described as a nympho. Another garota with great f' me eyes. She shares a flat with another garota near a shopping mall right in the heart of the city (and they also will do a dupla together from what I gathered). Nicole was a great mid-afternoon f-fest. Great kisser, great at oral, loves anal. R$200.
I will be in Campinas next week on business and have already researched some R$40 to R$70 / 1/2 hour prives near the rodiviario. Does not seem like a bustling scene but will report. Some good reviews however. Back in Rio January 7th through 9th (2 days in Centro, Friday night and Saturday in Copa). SP 12th through 14th. I have been doing a good job of juggling work and garotas when traveling. I rarely go out to nightclubs (especially since I don't smoke and drink occassionally.)
Good Day and Merry Christmas Gentleman,
I have just arrived in SP from Argentina and now have a 48 hour layover due to flight problems.
I am looking for a special Christmas present to myself for some of this time.
I have read over the various posts within the forums but am requesting some information and assistances to aid in my haste due to the time restrictions I have.
What is the best club to go shopping in, I am staying in the Intercontinental at Alameda Santos and am wondering if there is anything nearby, the concierge have been of little help.
I would prefer a GFE/GF for most of this time as I would like some company and language whilst exploring the city, first time to Brazil. I speak no Portuguese or Spanish so feel I am fighting a losing battle.
I am more experienced with clubs/bars rather than Escort services but any advice that can be offered would be appreciated, i.e etiquette with the girls, hotel security etc.
In addition to above if there is any other English speaking travellers or Expats that want to meet during this time for a beer let me know.
For information, I am a 29 year British Expat living and working in Dubai, UAE. I am an experienced monger but over the recent year have calmed my activities down. With this in mind if there are any other travellers or Expats that would like to meet for a beer whilst I am here please let me know.
Your Help is appreciated.
Somehow the whole week has slipped by and I have only been out twice, I guess I did come here to work. It is my last night in Sao Paulo, and finally we finish work around 3:00 in the afternoon. The co-workers are headed out to the bar, but I decline saying I can’t handle those Cai Pirianhes again. Everyone laughs but no one seems concerned that I am not joining them.
So now I am faced with a decision. Do I call Angela back and have a known good experience. Or I came here for that school boy fantasy, and do I strike out to try again. The pros for Angela is we already have a good connection. My experience has often been that the second time with a girl is better than first as she is more comfortable with you. Although her English isn’t very good, my Portuguese has improved a lot and I am sure we will be able to talk much more. I know I will get in her ass, her pussy is tight, her blowjobs are good, and she likes to masturbate. The cons against her are she has fake breasts which are real turn off to me. She has nice body but she is a bit older than I was hoping for. She smokes a lot.
Well when I do the calculation I decide the pros out way the cons, and if she is available then I should do her again. The biggest factor was missing out on her ass the first night. Also I think there is a good chance she may not be available so I decide to put the decision in her hands. I call her cell phone, and she doesn’t pick up, so I try again in 15 minutes, and still no luck, so I try again in 15 minutes and figure 3 strikes and your out. So I leave a message saying I am going to the hotel if you want to get together tonight call me there and leave the hotel phone number and my room number. By the time I arrive back at the hotel there is a message saying she returned my call would like to get together and I should call her back to tell her the time. So I call her and get voicemail, then I try in 15 minutes and reach her, we agree to meet at 9:00 o’clock. That gives me enough time to head to the pharmacia and pick up some Viagra, and then get back to the room in time to take a two hour nap.
She is punctual and shows up right a 9:00. I can not believe it as my experience is girls are always late. She gives me a big hug and kiss and says she hungry would I take her out to get something to eat. I say sure, but I am horny now, lets fuck first and then go eat later. She agrees.
We spend about 20 minutes just touching each other and making small talk. She mentions my Portuguese has improved a lot.
She gets undressed and after a little kissing and fondling she moves on to the masturbation show. It great, and this time she expands it from her pussy to do some Anal masturbation also. I am not sure how long this goes on but she finally wraps me in another Chocolate condom, and we move from the bed to the couch and the blowjob is just as good as I remembered, and this time it goes on for much longer. I again have thoughts of just finishing this way in her mouth. But instead of letting her keep going until I am really close to cumming like last time. I pull my dick out and she goes down and starts licking my balls. Highly pleasurable, but much less intense pleasure than the blowjob. She also does this for a quite a while before we move back to the bed. I go right for anal, but she moves it into her pussy first, it is tight again, so I don’t let it stay in there too long until I move to her ass, and this time she helps me place it in. Wow, this was really tight. She is moaning away, I don’t know if it is fake or not, but it sounds good to me. I am starting to get hot from the physical activity and am about to pull out, when she slams her ass back on me and kind of shakes all over. With that I slip out, take the condom off and she obediently puts her face next my dick and with a only a few quick strokes I am blasting it onto her face. She is careful to not let any go in her eyes this time. And my load is only about half the size of the first night. So she has a nice glazing on her face but is not totally covered like the other night. The upside of this is she waits about 5 minutes before she showers and cleans up so I can just look at her with cum on her face. It is pretty hot looking.
We go out for Japanese food, and I got to learn more about her. I looked in her purse and saw her license and she really is 24 years old. She mentioned that she only goes to Café Photo twice a week, but she says she always gets a guy. Although she says many girls do not, as the girls substantially out number the guys. She says she likes Café Photo because there aren’t any Portuguese customers in café photo, it is only for foreigners from North America, Europe, Asia, or Spanish speaking people from other South American countries. She is not likely to run into someone she knows and she likes that it is pretty much only for wealthy people with a lot of money to spend.
In all I guess she was a good experience, the real problem was the fake breasts. With out those she would have been great, and had she been a little younger she would have been my fantasy girl.
Marelobo
The following day I am too busy with work and don’t reach my hotel until after midnight. I could go out but I have early meetings the next day and elect to just catch up on my sleep (I am old guy). The third day, I catch a break as my lunch appointment cancels leaving me several hours free. So I decide to try clinica Antares. When I go in I ask if anyone speaks English and I am told no. So I say fine after two days my Portuguese has improved a bit. So I ask for a girl with small firm breasts. I am shown a book with maybe 15 girls in it. She selects four girls that she says have the smallest breasts. I can not really tell from the picture how small they are. They only other piece of information seems to be the age. So there is one marked as 19 and the other three are 24. So I elect the 19 year old, her name is Jack. So I go into the room she enters shortly after. She has a nice looking body, I shower first then she showers and gets right to work. 2-3 minute massage on back then flips me over starts with a hand job. So I ask her if she will masturbate for me, she agrees, but is not into it all and looks kind of bored. Also her pussy looks really big, more than double the size of Angela. She puts a condom on and moves onto the blowjob, here she did a good job. Next she climbs on top and just as I feared her pussy is super wide, and I am not getting much friction and actually starting to get soft. It is also quite hot in the cabin, although there is an air conditioning unit and it is on. I am starting to sweat, and that is not a good sign as I am getting soft quickly now. I ask her if I can come on her face, but she says no, she doesn’t do that. She offers me doggy style, but with a pussy that big I doubt that will be of much use. So I ask to suck on her breasts. Now the good news is she has real natural breasts, but they are hardly the firm tits of a 19 year old. I would guess much closer to a 24 year old. Her whole body in general although properly proportioned isn’t fit and toned, she feels kind of flabby. I think there is much less difference between and 24 year old and 29 year old versus a 19 year old and 24 year old. I am starting to enjoy licking her tits and getting a bit hard again, but she keeps saying to do it slower and more gently, I can’t really feast on them the way I would like. Finally I say that to get me to cum she has to let me suck on them for a while, so she kind of reluctantly agrees and also takes off the condom and stroke me with her hands while I suck her tits until I do cum. Since it has been two days it was a reasonable good load.
Afterwards I shower and I paid 150 when I came in and then she asked for 50 more. Plus the taxi ride their and the taxi ride back, I spent a little more than 300 total. That is half of what I paid for Angela at café photo, but this experience was much less pleasurable. I should say I don’t usually like these massage kind of places as I don’t like the massage part at the front. I really felt like work in process. There was not a connection she was just going through motions she had probably done 10 times earlier that day and would do another 10 times before the day was over. I would not repeat again, and after this experience I think I am done with the clinicas.
Perhaps I have just been unlucky, or as often in life to find the gems it takes a lot of searching. I feel like I have tried twice for that school boy fantasy of a hot athletic teenage girl. So far I have struck out twice.
The next night I am out with the people from work and 6 Cai Pirianhes later I can barely walk and am just happy to find my hotel room and pass out..
Arrive at Hotel after long trip, ideally would like to have a good cum and go right to sleep, but I know it is important to stay up until the night time. First step is to call a few adds I had researched tried three different girls but none spoke English and my Portuguese isn’t good enough to communicate the deal. I need to practice for a few days.
So I give up on that idea, shower change cloths and head into the office. The person assigned to me gives me my schedule and they have plans for me on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thrusday nights. That will leave limited time (only Monday and Friday) for girls or I won’t be getting any sleep (bad idea at my age), perhaps I can sneak out for a few hours during the day.
Work until 8:00 p.m, don’t get too much done as having trouble concentrating because tired from the flight and need to get rid of some sperm. Head to the hotel, change money in Reais, and decide the best thing to do is start with Café Photo. I know it early but my hope is to quickly grab a girl, get back to the hotel, cum all over her, and relax into a nice deep sleep.
Ideal girl will have small firm real breasts, tight thin athletic body, be between 18 – 21 years old, be willing to do let me watch her masturbate, have all three options available and finish by cumming on her face.
Arrive at Café Photo before 9:00, I worried they may not be open yet. Paid the 190 entrance fee and collected my 4 drink tickets. I decided to have a coke and get some caffeine into me as I beginning to feel seriously tired. I sit down a table in the corner and it seem there are only five girls working at this early hour. None look particularly young and 4 of the 5 have obviously large fake breasts. The one who might have natural breasts does have a nice hot body, so I agree to sit with her and she gets a drink.
First Julie tells me she is 25, but when I give her a strange look she says 27, that is quite a bit older than I was hoping for, but I am more interested in her body type than her age. And I figure I can always look for younger women later. I have learned that what ever age she tells you it is best to add five years to get to her real age.
We talk for a little bit, she knows some English and I am doing much better in Portuguese face to face than over the phone. I travel with a pocket dictionary and small credit card light. It is a good thing because it is really dark in here.
After we get through I like her, she likes me, she says we should go to my hotel. She wants 500 Reias, this seems like a lot to me, so I say no, too much, and she says that is what everyone will charge. So I say ok, thanks but I can’t afford it. So she gets up and leaves. About 10 minutes later she back and says ok 400 Reias. Well this still sounds like a lot to me, but I am really ready to get some sexual relief so I say ok, but I know it is much better to clarify everything now rather than at the hotel. And for 400 Reias she should be amazing and completely satisfy me.
So we go through the questions:
Are her breast real or fake – Real
Will she let me watch her masturbate – Yes
Does she have all three options available – No Anal, I suppose this should have been a deal breaker for me but I think I can skip that, if she will do a nice long blowjob ending with a facial.
Will she let me cum on her face – No only on her tits. I say for 400 it must be on the face and she says no, she doesn’t do that. So I say ok and say thanks and send her on her way.
This entire negotiation took about about 1 hour. There are maybe 5 more girls in the bar bringing the number up to 10. Again, they all look kind of old and all have these large fake breasts. There again seems to be one girl with small natural breasts so I call her over. We go through the same exercise with Erica as with Julie, except she doesn’t speak any English. The good news is I am convinced her breasts are real, it was hard to tell with the Julie, the bad new is she claims she is 30. While sitting with her, I can see her stomach curves outward instead of inward. This was not apparent when she was standing. Well my stomach curves outward also and I suppose I can get past this for a night. So we finally get to price and she also wants 500 Reias, at which point I say too much and she says she can’t go any lower. So she gets up and leaves before I even can get to the other questions.
Another hour has elapsed and a band has started playing, and it is getting crowded. The girls also substantially out number the boys. And all the tables are full, I would be worried if I came in now, I would not be able to sit at a table. I wouldn’t like that at all. As I look around the room the biggest complaints I have are 80% of the girls have large chests. For you big breast guys you might love this place. The majority of those girls breasts are fake. So that is a big turn off for me. I would also say the age level of the girls seems to be late 20s or early 30s. There are some obviously hot young girls in there, but they seem to be grabbed by a guy right away. I am trying to find one of these girls to join me.
Eventually I see a girl with normal sized breasts and a nice body and motion her my way. Angela sits down and we repeat the whole exercise. She knows more English than the Erica, but not close to the level of Julie. Anyway I am enjoying learning some Portuguese. She claims she is 24 years old. She also starts at 500 Reias, and when I say no she immediately goes to 400, so I start on my list of questions.
Are her breast real or fake – Real
Will she let me watch her masturbate – Yes
Does she have all three options available – Yes
Will she let me cum on her face – Very clear not in her mouth but on her face is ok.
So we get in her car and drive to the Hotel. She smokes the whole way there, which is not a big deal, but a small turn off for me. At the hotel they copy her license and she can come up to my room. She starts with a shower, and when she takes her top off her breasts don’t look right me, they kind of have an unnatural shape to them. So I ask her again if her breasts are real or fake. And she says real, so I reach out and grab one and I say no. She says ok, they are fake. I suppose I should of kicked her out right then, but I didn’t want to go back out and I was really ready to cum and get some sleep. So I decide I can over look her fake breasts for the night, but that was a major turn off for me.
After my shower, I tell Angela I want to watch her masturbate. She says she likes when people watch her, so she does a really good masturbation show. She has her own lube which she uses generously. Next we move off the bed to the couch and it is time for a blowjob. She brought a chocolate condom with her for that. Nice touch. Again this is a really good blowjob, although I was trying to get her to look at me while she did it, but she was all about concentrating on what she was doing. She has obviously done this before, I am seriously thinking of just laying back and finishing during the blowjob. Then she stops for moment and goes to climb on cowgirl, but I don’t like looking at her breasts so spin her around and have her do reverse cowgirl. This a is also good, she has a nice tight pussy. Then with a couple of squeezes she has me over the edge before I have chance to get in her ass. So I quickly push her off, take off the condom and put my dick next to her cheek. Right before I cum she dips her head down so her mouth moves farther way from me, and my dick is right about where her forehead and her cheek meet near her eye. I totally unload on her. The top part of her face is completely covered in cum. She sits there bent over for about 30 seconds as we both watch the cum drip off her face onto the floor. Finally she goes and cleans up and takes another shower. I guess quite a bit got in her eye and she is having trouble getting it out and her eye is very red now. I apologize to her and say that wouldn’t have happened if she wouldn’t have moved, but she says it is ok. When she is leaving she gives me her number and says that she thought I wanted to do anal, and if I still want her ass I should call her to come back later in the week. She gives me a kiss good bye and says her ass is really tight and I would like it. A nice way to end the night as I finally get that really good sleep.
In all it was a generally good experience. We had a good connection. Blowjob, pussy and cum on face were all really good. She had a nice body but not a smoking hot body, I will try for better next time. The fake breasts where a major turn off. I am unclear if I am going to call her or not.
During the week I was in Sao Paulo I had three experience. Two of them were good, one was ok. But none achieved the fantasy level I was looking for.
For Café Photo, I do not think I would go back there. You are obviously overpaying, you can be fooled like I did in selecting a girl with fake breasts when I wanted real ones. The selection process takes a long time, and there isn’t an easy way to get the girls you want to come to your table.
As for the clinica, I didn’t like that at all. I sort of knew that before I went but they seem popular so I thought I should try them.
In all it seems there is abundant sex available in the Brazil. However none of it did I find to be cheap. It ranged from moderate to expensive. Condoms were always used, which I think is a good thing, but I know some people think otherwise. The best part by far is the anal sex, although that wasn’t offered at the Clinica or from all the Café Photo girls, so there may be more searching around for it. I only tried two girls, but I couldn’t find exactly what I was looking for. Perhaps, I was limited by time, language ability or just got unlucky, and the next time out would be my fantasy girl. I was really hoping to hook up with an experienced person in Brazil who could show a newbie around. So I wouldn’t end up muddling about the way that I did. Personally I have found Mexico to be better and easier for me. Although in Mexico my first time I went with someone who showed me around. I also usually go when there is an abundance of new girls and an absence of mongers. My Spanish although not good is better then my Portuguese. I guess for my next trip to Brazil, I will try Bomboa, Millenium or Kilt. I am worried they will be very similar to Café Photo.
Thanks to those of you who PM me with advise, I appreciated it. The following trip report is broken into three sections and I apologize in advance as it is kind of long.
Good job and in details! THANK YOU, it was fun.
Fashion
[QUOTE=Marelobo Mex]Arrive at Hotel after long trip, ideally would like to have a good cum and go right to sleep, but I know it is important to stay up until the night time. First step is to call a few adds I had researched tried three different girls but none spoke English and my Portuguese isn't good enough to communicate the deal. I need to practice for a few days.
So I give up on that idea, shower change cloths and head into the office. The person assigned to me gives me my schedule and they have plans for me on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thrusday nights. That will leave limited time (only Monday and Friday) for girls or I won't be getting any sleep (bad idea at my age), perhaps I can sneak out for a few hours during the day.
Work until 8:00 p. M, don't get too much done as having trouble concentrating because tired from the flight and need to get rid of some sperm. Head to the hotel, change money in Reais, and decide the best thing to do is start with Café Photo. I know it early but my hope is to quickly grab a girl, get back to the hotel, cum all over her, and relax into a nice deep sleep.
Ideal girl will have small firm real breasts, tight thin athletic body, be between 18 – 21 years old, be willing to do let me watch her masturbate, have all three options available and finish by cumming on her face.
Arrive at Café Photo before 9:00, I worried they may not be open yet. Paid the 190 entrance fee and collected my 4 drink tickets. I decided to have a coke and get some caffeine into me as I beginning to feel seriously tired. I sit down a table in the corner and it seem there are only five girls working at this early hour. None look particularly young and 4 of the 5 have obviously large fake breasts. The one who might have natural breasts does have a nice hot body, so I agree to sit with her and she gets a drink.
First Julie tells me she is 25, but when I give her a strange look she says 27, that is quite a bit older than I was hoping for, but I am more interested in her body type than her age. And I figure I can always look for younger women later. I have learned that what ever age she tells you it is best to add five years to get to her real age.
We talk for a little bit, she knows some English and I am doing much better in Portuguese face to face than over the phone. I travel with a pocket dictionary and small credit card light. It is a good thing because it is really dark in here.
After we get through I like her, she likes me, she says we should go to my hotel. She wants 500 Reias, this seems like a lot to me, so I say no, too much, and she says that is what everyone will charge. So I say ok, thanks but I can't afford it. So she gets up and leaves. About 10 minutes later she back and says ok 400 Reias. Well this still sounds like a lot to me, but I am really ready to get some sexual relief so I say ok, but I know it is much better to clarify everything now rather than at the hotel. And for 400 Reias she should be amazing and completely satisfy me.
So we go through the questions:
Are her breast real or fake – Real
Will she let me watch her masturbate – Yes
Does she have all three options available – No Anal, I suppose this should have been a deal breaker for me but I think I can skip that, if she will do a nice long blowjob ending with a facial.
Will she let me cum on her face – No only on her tits. I say for 400 it must be on the face and she says no, she doesn't do that. So I say ok and say thanks and send her on her way.
This entire negotiation took about about 1 hour. There are maybe 5 more girls in the bar bringing the number up to 10. Again, they all look kind of old and all have these large fake breasts. There again seems to be one girl with small natural breasts so I call her over. We go through the same exercise with Erica as with Julie, except she doesn't speak any English. The good news is I am convinced her breasts are real, it was hard to tell with the Julie, the bad new is she claims she is 30. While sitting with her, I can see her stomach curves outward instead of inward. This was not apparent when she was standing. Well my stomach curves outward also and I suppose I can get past this for a night. So we finally get to price and she also wants 500 Reias, at which point I say too much and she says she can't go any lower. So she gets up and leaves before I even can get to the other questions.
Another hour has elapsed and a band has started playing, and it is getting crowded. The girls also substantially out number the boys. And all the tables are full, I would be worried if I came in now, I would not be able to sit at a table. I wouldn't like that at all. As I look around the room the biggest complaints I have are 80% of the girls have large chests. For you big breast guys you might love this place. The majority of those girls breasts are fake. So that is a big turn off for me. I would also say the age level of the girls seems to be late 20s or early 30s. There are some obviously hot young girls in there, but they seem to be grabbed by a guy right away. I am trying to find one of these girls to join me.
Eventually I see a girl with normal sized breasts and a nice body and motion her my way. Angela sits down and we repeat the whole exercise. She knows more English than the Erica, but not close to the level of Julie. Anyway I am enjoying learning some Portuguese. She claims she is 24 years old. She also starts at 500 Reias, and when I say no she immediately goes to 400, so I start on my list of questions.
Are her breast real or fake – Real
Will she let me watch her masturbate – Yes
Does she have all three options available – Yes
Will she let me cum on her face – Very clear not in her mouth but on her face is ok.
So we get in her car and drive to the Hotel. She smokes the whole way there, which is not a big deal, but a small turn off for me. At the hotel they copy her license and she can come up to my room. She starts with a shower, and when she takes her top off her breasts don't look right me, they kind of have an unnatural shape to them. So I ask her again if her breasts are real or fake. And she says real, so I reach out and grab one and I say no. She says ok, they are fake. I suppose I should of kicked her out right then, but I didn't want to go back out and I was really ready to cum and get some sleep. So I decide I can over look her fake breasts for the night, but that was a major turn off for me.
After my shower, I tell Angela I want to watch her masturbate. She says she likes when people watch her, so she does a really good masturbation show. She has her own lube which she uses generously. Next we move off the bed to the couch and it is time for a blowjob. She brought a chocolate condom with her for that. Nice touch. Again this is a really good blowjob, although I was trying to get her to look at me while she did it, but she was all about concentrating on what she was doing. She has obviously done this before, I am seriously thinking of just laying back and finishing during the blowjob. Then she stops for moment and goes to climb on cowgirl, but I don't like looking at her breasts so spin her around and have her do reverse cowgirl. This a is also good, she has a nice tight pussy. Then with a couple of squeezes she has me over the edge before I have chance to get in her ass. So I quickly push her off, take off the condom and put my dick next to her cheek. Right before I cum she dips her head down so her mouth moves farther way from me, and my dick is right about where her forehead and her cheek meet near her eye. I totally unload on her. The top part of her face is completely covered in cum. She sits there bent over for about 30 seconds as we both watch the cum drip off her face onto the floor. Finally she goes and cleans up and takes another shower. I guess quite a bit got in her eye and she is having trouble getting it out and her eye is very red now. I apologize to her and say that wouldn't have happened if she wouldn't have moved, but she says it is ok. When she is leaving she gives me her number and says that she thought I wanted to do anal, and if I still want her ass I should call her to come back later in the week. She gives me a kiss good bye and says her ass is really tight and I would like it. A nice way to end the night as I finally get that really good sleep.
In all it was a generally good experience. We had a good connection. Blowjob, pussy and cum on face were all really good. She had a nice body but not a smoking hot body, I will try for better next time. The fake breasts where a major turn off. I am unclear if I am going to call her or not.[/QUOTE]
I arrived in Sao Paolo a few days ago and it has been raining cats and dogs. The sun did not make an appearance until the 4th day since I arrived. Despite it all, there were some really great times to be had.
Day One
Arrived and there was no one in the customs area but me! The plane was that empty. I cruised right through and went to the hotel. After I dropped my bags, I went to Nova Maison on Rua Augusta in search of one of my favorites: Flavia. As usual, great service provided by her, she is a very nice petite gal. Here is the session by the numbers: Flavia (Nova Maison): 5’3”, 34B, 25, 37, 31 yeas old, 110lbs, morena, brunette, BR100 for her, BR25 for the room, BR10 for entrance, total BR135
Day Two
Not a whole lot of places have been up and running because they were in the middle of the New Year’s holiday. However, I did find one place that was opened and I decided to give them a try: Clinica American Center. This place is relatively easy to find if you know how to use the Metro. If you take the green or blue lines, you need to get off the Paraiso station. You then need to find Rua Vergeiro exit. Once there, as you face the street, turn right. The next light should be Rua Paraiso. The address to the American Center is Rua Paraiso, 642. They make it easy to find; the house is white, the number is in Red tile numbers about 1 meter each number. You can’t miss it. In addition, you are walking downhill on Paraiso, pretty steep once you get going. Anyway, got there, there were two available gals and I chose Bruna : 5’3”, 32A, 23, 36, 20 years old, 100lbs, morena, fake blonde. I had a good time with here, the session was more than adequate, I love gals with nice bubble butts, especially on such a small girl. Total damage: BR110
Day Three
I went back to my old standby place, Nova Maison. When I first arrived, I was the only dude there, with about 12 or so ladies circling like sharks. Since day one, I had my eye on this girl, Amanda: Amanda (Nova Maison): 5’1”, 34B, 24, 38, 110lbs, 26 years old, Bahiana, morena, brunnete, perfect tan lines (I am a big sucker for those deep tan lines!), and serious bubble butt to boot. Anyway, spoke to her for a while, got a good vibe about her, so I decided to session with her. She is very animated, very attentive; however, this girl either had no kegel experience whatsoever or she was King Kong’s girl friend she was that loose down there. First time for everything! Anyway, the session was decent and I managed to be taken care of with her unending energy. Total damage: BR125 for her, BR25 for room, BR10 for entrance for a total of BR150.
Day Four
I decided to go to one of my old favorite places before the rain resumed: Clinica Shori [url]http://www.clinicashori.com.br/[/url]. I love that place, I’ve never had a bad session. Anyway, after the parade of beauties, I chose this morena called Samira: 5’4”, 34 B/C, 23, 36, 100lbs, 24 years old, Bahiana, mulata, brunnete, the best body I’ve seen since I’ve been here. She is at least a 9. There are some times when the stars are aligned and everything goes well beyond expectations; this was definitely one of those times. She got me off 3 times in less than 45 minutes and wanted more, however, I was too drained to continue. She kept trying to revive me to no avail, so instead I got a deep tissue back rub from her with the time remaining and some cuddling after she finished that. I can’t wait to return here, however it will be some time before that happens. Total damage: BR120
From Medellin report thread:
[QUOTE=Ricker]I have found Brazil, particularly Sao Paulo, to be the BEST and easiest place I have ever been to meet NON-pros.[/QUOTE]I think you came to the same conclusion as the guy in the post. He's now living in Rio.
[url]http://www.rooshv.com/colombia-analysis[/url]
In my opinion though Rio has too many sex tourists and it's not so easy to mingle with the middle-working class there because of that. I'm pretty sure São Paulo is the best choice in Brazil in terms of variety of girls, experiences and nightlife (but the p4p seems very expensive)
In fact everything seems now very expensive in Brazil: taxis, food, etc, especially as compared to Colombia.
And I heard the street jams are crazy down there.
How much would a small furnished apartment in a cool neighborhood cost nowadays in São Paulo?
Ricker, could you please elaborate a bit on how you live down there? Furnished apartment? Hotel? Which area you prefer to live and meet non-pro girls? I'm very interested to visit one day.
[QUOTE=Sui Generis]The name of the new club is TOUCH CAFE
[url]http://www.Touchcafe. Com. Br/[/url]
And it's located in São José dos Campos
From the reports posted on the national forums the club in itself is nice but it's a little bit expensive for the quality and the number of the girls that are working there. I think that we can deduce that it doesn't worth a trip from São Paulo. Actually, it seems that there, s better venues in Sampa. In toher words, it's not the BAHAMAS not even an imitation of it.
NB: I've never been there myself[/QUOTE]Touchcafe is the "new" luxurious club. Many people come from Sao Paulo to go there, but really the rich, mostly with helicopter (the club has its own heli-station). Also Sao Jose has many rich people (one of the richest Brazilian cities). Basically, it is nothing that would make it really worth going there compared to other, much cheaper high-end clubs in Sao Paulo, except if you don't want to be with the "normal folks", it is simply the price that keeps the rich isolated from the rest. I just have been there once when it was quite new and the drinks and entrance were more expensive than in similar clubs in Europe or US (don't remember the exact prices any more).
[QUOTE=Ricker]What a bargain! Only about 800R or close to $500 US for one girl, one night.
I'm sure glad I'm good at finding gems about the city for much less or for nothing.
As always, to each his own.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't say that this is a bargain. You can find plenty of escorts in SP for R$ 300 / night. The ones with websites are more difficult, but if you go to the local newspapers I would say that almost 50% of the "real freelancers" will charge only R$300. The problem is that you need to speak enough Portuguese to communicate with them. The worse your Portuguese is, the more many will charge you. But if you just try long enough, you will find one as there are plenty of really "honest" girls that are happy to get a foreigner, especially if you are from Europe (Brazilians are often quite rude). Then good service is also almost guaranteed. I do this most of the times and I would say that. Even though you don't see the pictures. Around 3 out of 4 girls were very good (of course, if they're not nice on the phone or you feel that you talk to an agency, just forget it immediately and try another number!).
On the streets and with some contacts (e. G. If you take the same girl for the second time) you can usually get even cheaper prices.
[QUOTE=Sui Generis]For what I know the cachê is supposed to be R$200. By the way this is the standard rate for a 1h1/2 to 2h session with a free-lance garota in São Paulo.
Nowadays some garotas tend to ask for R$250 or R$300 but they're a minority.[/QUOTE]It really depends. The girls from the websites often charge this amount. However, if you take them a longer time, the rates hardly go up (so if you pay e. G. 250 for 2 hours you will only pay maybe 500 for the night). The good thing is that 90% of the pictures are real (plus of course plenty of photoshop-tuning), which you hardly have in any other country.
Cheaper and usually almost equal quality (of course, you don't see what you get, but also photoshoppers are often far from reality althoug basically real) are the girls from newspapers.
Many of the girls (even the ones from the websites) work in brothels during the day, often quite simple and cheap brothels (R$50. R$80 / hour). They charge significantly more for outcalls (they have more risk and spend more time). But when you visit them once or twice in the brothel and you come along well, you can mostly get them much cheaper (I had them even for free multiple times!) than on the websites. You can however mostly not take them home directly, but take a phone number or make a date.
Please note that the girls and the prices from GPGUIA are mostly indicating the girls from the websites and hence the prices appear to be higher than they are.
[QUOTE=Hughdad]CM is a site of independents, not an agency. So all the ladies establish their own rates and you contact them directly. Many also entertain in their flats.
SPlove is another such site.[/QUOTE]With most websites, the girls simply pay for being listed there, but they have their own rates. Almost all girls are on multiple websites. So you will hardly find "standard rates" on the websites and if you do, stay away. Agency girls that have a pimp mostly provide bad service. I made the experience that many of the girls who don't publish the rates are actually cheaper than the ones that publish them. In the beginning, I hardly called those girls as I though that they're probably very expensive. Just try them if you feel they're really hot (and many of them are!).
[QUOTE=Hobbying]What kind of weekly or monthly rates for these apts?[/QUOTE]SP is a city with far 20 million inhabitants, going from VERY poor to VERY rich. The flat prices go from R$500 / month to no limit (of course, excluding the places where you never should go as a foreigner!). But there is nothing like a "best place" or a really safe place in SP, the city is simply too big and rich and poor too close together. As a foreigner I would always stay in a hotel if you don't speak the language and if you don't know the local habits (especially regarding how to take care for your security). Brazil is in my view the best mongering place in the world, but if you don't know the rules of the game, you are in VERY big danger. I further never had a non-girl friendly hotel in Brazil, so pay the few extra bucks for your safety.
Privates:
In my opinion they are the best way to get laid for little money and then pick up the good girls' phonenumbers. The following addresses are already some months old, so not 100% sure if they are all still valid. But I would especially recommend the area around Rua Loefgreen / Metro Santa Cruz. There are at least 6 privates in <5 minutes walking distance that all cost between R$50 and R$70 per hour and many have pretty girls (levels 3. 8, most only have 4 women, so sometimes you just need to go from one place to the next one).
Privê da R. Pereira Estéfano, 218
- Metro: Saúde [R$60]
R. Pitangueiras 125
- Metro: Pç da Árvore. Price 30R ½ hr, 50R FS 1 hr
Privê da Rua Ouvidor Peleja, 142
- Metro: Saúde. [R$50]
Privê Abbacate. Rua Luiz Góis, 810
- Metro: Santa Cruz. [R$70]
- Rua loefgreen, 977 (+ plenty of other brothels in the direct neighbourhood).
Metro: Santa Cruz. 5539-3843/5081-3149 [R$50]
The newest addresses you can usually find in GPGUIA. Nowadays, only Brazilian IP addresses are allowed to access this site, so you need to use a Brazilian Proxy server to bypass this. (Jackson, not sure if I'm allowed to post this here? But the site is in Portuguese, so hardly a real competition. Sorry if not, then just delete it please).
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Definitely, Brazil is the best country!
SP compared to Rio:
1) Safety: SP wins
Rio is full of sex-tourists and Rio is the most criminal city in the world. Although SP is not safe, it is much safer than Rio and a tourist will not call so much attention. SP is a business city and. Although close to Rio. Much more European, so in case you are a very white or even blonde caucasian you will not call that much attention.
2) Girls: Rio wins
Depends what you want. But Rio definitely has a huge sex-industry and it is much more foreigner friendly. So you will find more girls and I think even pay less. SP has higher choice of girls. But if you don't know the city and the language, it is much harder to find them. Also the discos of SP are full of normal girls and many of them are difficult to get (not impossible, but this should be subject to another report.). Rio is much poorer and the discos, especially in the tourist places, are full of freelancers. Still, I like SP more, but it took me some years to realize this.
3) Location: Rio wins
Rio is the most beautiful city in the world. Sao Paulo probably among the ugliest ones (again, if you know the city, you can life there extremely good). In SP you will be lost if you don't have local friends (or stuck in your hotel and some small places). In Rio you just go to the beaches, sugar loaf mountain, etc: nice places and girls everywhere. Still, I like SP more, but it took me some years.
Rio & SP compared to rest of Brazil:
Salvador: Salvador is a dirty city, but has some nice historic buildings etc. And you can still find plenty of girls that just like & fuck you because you're coming from a rich country and because they simply like to have sex there. It's much easier there to find a real girl-friend (ok, pay her some dinners, etc. Last time I fucked one lady for one week and paid her clothes for just around R$100, plus some food & drinks before we went to the action). Again, there are too many foreigners and hence lot of criminality against foreigners.
South: Safest place, nice cities and beaches etc.. In the summer & holiday period you can find the beaches and tourist places full of freelancers. The rest of the time it's more difficult. As in whole Brazil, there is plenty of action, but you need to find the clubs etc. Of the locals. I especially recommend Curitiba, where I had one of my best trips. But also Porto Alegre, Florianopolis etc. Are fine. Prices are for sure higher and you will hardly find a girl that only fucks you because you're a foreigner if you're not a Leonardo di Caprio.
Inside the country / no-man's land (ok, this is really a big area): The smaller the city, the less dangerous it is, no matter how poor the people are. Although there are nightclubs or at least street action almost everywhere in Brazil, I love those small places for the normal girls. You can easily (of course, some Portuguese helps) find a nice girl, tell her some interesting stories, invite her, and she will be your girl-friend immediately. Take care, if you buy flowers the next day she will do everything for you, but don't break her heart too much (Brazilian rednecks in such an area would never do this!). Best place to meet are the small parks that are usually in the middle of each city and where there are always some bars and the whole city meets each night. Best is to talk to a group of women, don't be too aggressive as everybody knows everybody and it might make the women a bit shy.
I will try to post some more reports on Brazil (and actually on Thailand) during the next weeks. But it's hard too find enough time.
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[QUOTE=Palmisano]
... I wouldn't say that this is a bargain. You can find plenty of escorts in SP for R$ 300 ...
[/QUOTE]
Yep, THANKS for the report and advice, but hey, I was just being SARACASTIC about $500 dollars being a bargain ... JEEZ amigo :)
[QUOTE=Palmisano]Definitely, Brazil is the best country!
3) Location: Rio wins
Rio is the most beautiful city in the world. Sao Paulo probably among the ugliest ones (again, if you know the city, you can life there extremely good). In SP you will be lost if you don't have local friends (or stuck in your hotel and some small places). In Rio you just go to the beaches, sugar loaf mountain, etc: nice places and girls everywhere. Still, I like SP more, but it took me some years.
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I agree 100% with that statement. My fisrt impression of São Paulo was negative. I felt lost in that huge city because I was then unable to orient myself. When I was looking therer were only tall buildings looking all the same.
But I don't totally agree with Palsinao when he wrotes that São Paulo is an ugly city. Of course there exist parts of the city that are incredibly ugly but in the same time other bairros offer a good environment. I think for instance of some parts of Jardim, Moema or even Morumbi (not too close to the favela though).
Here are picks from nice and quiet streets in Moema:
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And here are some pictures displaying a darker or gloomier side of Sampa, respectively in Centro, Ipiranga and Liberdade.
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If you like architecture there are some buildings that are worth seeing in Sampa. I think for example of Edificio Copan, Martinelli, Estacion da Luz and so on.
Another place worth seeing is: Parque da Independencia where is located the Museum of Sao Paulo (in Ipiranga).
Now, when people stop me in the streets to ask for direction, I know the city so well that I can help them to find their way in the city. Moreover, as I am fluent in Portuguese (with probably a funny French canadian sotaque (accent)) it,s quite easy to find women (non pro) or to have good relationships with GDP.
I wrote it several times in this forum: If you're a tourist with almost no knowledge of the culture or the language Rio is still the best place for you.
Palmisano, thans for your excellent reports.
I agree that Sao Paulo is not one of the best places on earth: because of traffic, pollution, climate, etc.
However, saying that Rio is the best city in the world seems too much to me.
IMHO that city is not nice at all. Many times I have been there, finding it ugly and very dirty. Here in Brazil itself I prefer Belo Horizonte or Curitiba or even Brasilia.
I would word it this way: Rio's BAY is one of the most beautiful places in the world ... but unfortunately someone decided to build a city right there.
[QUOTE=Palmisano]
...
Rio is the most beautiful city in the world. Sao Paulo probably among the ugliest ones ...
[/QUOTE]
Cafe Photo:
Entrance R$190 includes 4 drinks. The girls do not ask to buy them drinks, which is nice, and make frequent eye contact but are not agressive. Some are very beautiful, all are good looking so overall the quality is high. I saw some 10's leaving as I arrived at midnight, wish I could have gone earlier though there were still many girls and mongers present.
Picked up Julia, loira (blonde) of Italian descent, very pretty face and body , which to my disappointment turned out to be entirely artificial, fake boobs and a scar from a recent lipposuccion. Great GFE nonetheless, lots of DFK, did not watch the time and gave me her phone number asking me to call her the next day after work (she is a computer designer by day). Between the R$190 entrance, taxi from Morumbi (about R$20 each way) and R$400 for the girl (she said the normal price is 500 but she would go with me for 400 because she liked me, sure, right...) a good but fairly expensive experience overall, as expected.
Cafe Gauguin
Went there at 1AM, about 3 customers and a dozen girls 7 or 8 max and the average around 5. Girls are fairly pushy, want drinks and champagne and I don't like that as I was constantly surrounded and could hardly look around. Entrance of R$80 includes one drink BUT you must pay 2 drinks for the girls to take out, so even though I did not actually offer to buy any girls drinks I ended up paying around R$170.
I was given a tour of the upstairs, on the 3rd level (2nd level is an additional sitting area), 4 small rooms without doors or beds, only sofas, which reminded me of karaoke rooms but without doors. It was confirmed that bedrooms would be illegal, however if I did not want to take a girl to my hotel I could get the same action in any of these rooms. All of them were empty and dark when I visited. Not my thing.
My favorite Isadora immediately recognized me but turned down USD200 and stated she would not go for less than USD250/R$400. But I had decided I was going to pay less than R$400 tonight or I would go to bed. Once she figured it out she french-kissed me and left... Ended up with Myriam instead, a tall brunette who works as a hairdresser during the day, 24yo, pretty, said I would never forget her, which I seriously doubt. She quickly agreed to USD200, which in my book is still a lot of money, and was friendly but CBJ and not the wild sex I could have had with Isadora. Oh well...
How long did the girl spend with you??
[QUOTE=Mahal]Cafe Photo:
Entrance R$190 includes 4 drinks. The girls do not ask to buy them drinks, which is nice, and make frequent eye contact but are not agressive. Some are very beautiful, all are good looking so overall the quality is high. I saw some 10's leaving as I arrived at midnight, wish I could have gone earlier though there were still many girls and mongers present.
Picked up Julia, loira (blonde) of Italian descent, very pretty face and body , which to my disappointment turned out to be entirely artificial, fake boobs and a scar from a recent lipposuccion. Great GFE nonetheless, lots of DFK, did not watch the time and gave me her phone number asking me to call her the next day after work (she is a computer designer by day). Between the R$190 entrance, taxi from Morumbi (about R$20 each way) and R$400 for the girl (she said the normal price is 500 but she would go with me for 400 because she liked me, sure, right...) a good but fairly expensive experience overall, as expected.
Cafe Gauguin
Went there at 1AM, about 3 customers and a dozen girls 7 or 8 max and the average around 5. Girls are fairly pushy, want drinks and champagne and I don't like that as I was constantly surrounded and could hardly look around. Entrance of R$80 includes one drink BUT you must pay 2 drinks for the girls to take out, so even though I did not actually offer to buy any girls drinks I ended up paying around R$170.
I was given a tour of the upstairs, on the 3rd level (2nd level is an additional sitting area), 4 small rooms without doors or beds, only sofas, which reminded me of karaoke rooms but without doors. It was confirmed that bedrooms would be illegal, however if I did not want to take a girl to my hotel I could get the same action in any of these rooms. All of them were empty and dark when I visited. Not my thing.
My favorite Isadora immediately recognized me but turned down USD200 and stated she would not go for less than USD250/R$400. But I had decided I was going to pay less than R$400 tonight or I would go to bed. Once she figured it out she french-kissed me and left... Ended up with Myriam instead, a tall brunette who works as a hairdresser during the day, 24yo, pretty, said I would never forget her, which I seriously doubt. She quickly agreed to USD200, which in my book is still a lot of money, and was friendly but CBJ and not the wild sex I could have had with Isadora. Oh well...[/QUOTE]
dear mongers,
i have the chance to be in sao paulo the first time next month. i have read the forum carefully but still did not get the fealing i know the right things.
is there by any chance someone who could be able to give a short "summary. to a novice. (i think this would be from interest for others too).
i like escorts so my questions are:
is it leagel, waht is the average price to pay and what to expect. and where and how is the best way to finde them. i don't speek portugese only english.
thanks a lot to anybody who is helping. thanks.!
will
[quote=will smith69]dear mongers,
i have the chance to be in sao paulo the first time next month. i have read the forum carefully but still did not get the fealing i know the right things.
is there by any chance someone who could be able to give a short "summary. to a novice. (i think this would be from interest for others too).
i like escorts so my questions a
is it leagel, waht is the average price to pay and what to expect. and where and how is the best way to finde them. i don't speek portugese only english.
thanks a lot to anybody who is helping. thanks.!
will[/quote]you "speek" english? all the info you need is in this forum. stop being lazy and read the archives.
escort services or prostitutes are legal here, no problem.
also, as far as i know all hotels are girls friendly.
furthermore, you may explain to the reception (most likely only to male staff) what is your need and they either show you a book from where you can choose a girl of your liking or can send a girl to your room (no obligation to buy).
otherwise, tell us what catched your attention reading the forum and someone will surely help.
[quote=will smith69]dear mongers,
i have the chance to be in sao paulo the first time next month. i have read the forum carefully but still did not get the fealing i know the right things.
is there by any chance someone who could be able to give a short "summary. to a novice. (i think this would be from interest for others too).
i like escorts so my questions are:
is it leagel, waht is the average price to pay and what to expect. and where and how is the best way to finde them. i don't speek portugese only english.
thanks a lot to anybody who is helping. thanks.!
will[/quote]
[QUOTE=Albert Punter]Escort services or prostitutes are legal here, no problem.
Also, as far as I know all hotels are girls friendly.
Furthermore, you may explain to the reception (most likely only to male staff) what is your need and they either show you a book from where you can choose a girl of your liking or can send a girl to your room (no obligation to buy).
Otherwise, tell us what catched your attention reading the forum and someone will surely help.[/QUOTE]
Just a note of caution, in November I stayed at the Sheraton in Sao Paulo, my visitor checked in at the front desk, they escorted her to my room, I signed something on a clip board, when I checked out it was a 150 real fee for the visitor.
In some cases, when girl comes by herself, hotels ask her to register.
They do that for security reasons, which is understandable.
However, I have never heard about charging an extra.
John thanks fo sharing the info.
p.s. generally we do have to register too when we visit some girl at their own apt, it is not discreet at all but ...
[QUOTE=Johntodd]Just a note of caution, in November I stayed at the Sheraton in Sao Paulo, my visitor checked in at the front desk, they escorted her to my room, I signed something on a clip board, when I checked out it was a 150 real fee for the visitor.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Johntodd]Just a note of caution, in November I stayed at the Sheraton in Sao Paulo, my visitor checked in at the front desk, they escorted her to my room, I signed something on a clip board, when I checked out it was a 150 real fee for the visitor.[/QUOTE]When you made the original reservation, did you make it for 1 or 2? Always book for 2, does not cost any more.
[QUOTE=Albert Punter]Escort services or prostitutes are legal here, no problem.
Also, as far as I know all hotels are girls friendly.
Furthermore, you may explain to the reception (most likely only to male staff) what is your need and they either show you a book from where you can choose a girl of your liking or can send a girl to your room (no obligation to buy).
Otherwise, tell us what catched your attention reading the forum and someone will surely help.[/QUOTE]Which major hotels provide this service?
[QUOTE=Albert Punter]In some cases, when girl comes by herself, hotels ask her to register.
They do that for security reasons, which is understandable.
However, I have never heard about charging an extra.
John thanks fo sharing the info.
p.s. generally we do have to register too when we visit some girl at their own apt, it is not discreet at all but ...[/QUOTE]When my lady friend and I are in SP and want to bring up another guest, she or we make arrangements to meet in an area of the lobby or even outside the hotel. Never had a problem doing this. Plus you can screen guests better.
[QUOTE=Johntodd]Just a note of caution, in November I stayed at the Sheraton in Sao Paulo, my visitor checked in at the front desk, they escorted her to my room, I signed something on a clip board, when I checked out it was a 150 real fee for the visitor.[/QUOTE]
I was also in November @ Sheraton in Brooklyn and had a guest staying for the night but was not charged a cent.
Are You sure the 150 reais were for the visitor?
BB5
[QUOTE=Bobo5]I was also in November @ Sheraton in Brooklyn and had a guest staying for the night but was not charged a cent.
Are You sure the 150 reais were for the visitor?
BB5[/QUOTE]
Yes, it definately was a 150 real fee. If I can find a copy of the receipt I will post.
So I have read all the Sao Paulo reports going back to 2007. Great information and I have decided to make this my next stop.
I have been to Rio many times and I am just really tired of that scene. I have also been to Fortaleza and it is not really for me.
I am more of a big city guy. I am from NYC where I have been most of life except having lived in Paris and London for a few years each. So Big city is for me.
I speak Portuguese fairly well so language will not be an issue for me in SP.
While I don't want to spend a fortune on a girl money is less of a concern than finding the right scene for my tastes.
I do not like terma like environments I prefer my hotel or apartment.
I hate fake breasts. I really do not need model like women. I would rather have an average girl with a pretty face and nice smile.
So even after RTFF I am still confused.
The Cafe Foto type places seem to have women too old and too fake. prefer 19-24 years old with real breasts and grils who do not think they are model types.
I do not need champagne type places but also prefer not to be in the "gutter"
Any suggestions?
Sorry but I cannot provide a list.
I had this experience at a aparthotel in Al.Lorena a few years back.
Also, many of the girls I had invited to my room, told me that hotels keep a book and told they would have left some of their pics downstairs.
As far as asking to hotel staff, chatting with a girl yesterday I learnt she was going to meet another guest in same aparthotel. This guest was addressed to her by restaurant manager to whom this guest asked for some "help" in finding a girl.
[QUOTE=Hughdad]Which major hotels provide this service?[/QUOTE]
Sometimes I do that too.
In these cases reception staff don't care a dime about the girl.
[QUOTE=Hughdad]When my lady friend and I are in SP and want to bring up another guest, she or we make arrangements to meet in an area of the lobby or even outside the hotel. Never had a problem doing this. Plus you can screen guests better.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Johntodd]Yes, it definately was a 150 real fee. If I can find a copy of the receipt I will post.[/QUOTE]
Choose the Hilton next time.
Just a few hundred meters from the Sheraton Brooklyn. I've been there many times and can assure there is no extra fee, they'll just register the girl.
bb5
[QUOTE=InBrazilSoon]So I have read all the Sao Paulo reports going back to 2007. Great information and I have decided to make this my next stop.
I have been to Rio many times and I am just really tired of that scene. I have also been to Fortaleza and it is not really for me.
I am more of a big city guy. I am from NYC where I have been most of life except having lived in Paris and London for a few years each. So Big city is for me.
I speak Portuguese fairly well so language will not be an issue for me in SP.
While I don't want to spend a fortune on a girl money is less of a concern than finding the right scene for my tastes.
I do not like terma like environments I prefer my hotel or apartment.
I hate fake breasts. I really do not need model like women. I would rather have an average girl with a pretty face and nice smile.
So even after RTFF I am still confused.
The Cafe Foto type places seem to have women too old and too fake. prefer 19-24 years old with real breasts and grils who do not think they are model types.
I do not need champagne type places but also prefer not to be in the "gutter"
Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]
Sampa is the largest mongering place in the world. Surely, you will find what you like at a reasonable price .
Places like Cafe Foto, Bomboa, etc.(seems a new high end place opens every week) should be shunned. Their prices outweigh the quality and the service you will receive.
To find nice talent at reasonable pices, I suggest lower end tiers, such as Kilt, Vagao, etc. They both are located in Centro, Nestor Pestana (sp) street.
Any taxi would know these places.
Good you want to experience SP.
I am sure you will have fun here.
As you mention your fluency in the local language, I would recommend you to select a girl from the many websites and invite her to your place. It is true that many pics are photoshopped, however this search will allow you to contact young girls with nice smile and real boobs (silicon boobs are in some way recognizable).
Other than that, I concur with Tiradentes you may want to try middle level clubs like Kilt (my favourite) or Vagao or others. You will have the advantage to see the girl in person and to chat a little bit, to see if some chemistry may develop.
Cafe Photo is full of beautiful young girls (why you got impression too old women browse there ?), however many of them feel themselves as model type, so they may not be what you look for, and are expensive too.
[QUOTE=InBrazilSoon]So I have read all the Sao Paulo reports going back to 2007. Great information and I have decided to make this my next stop.
I have been to Rio many times and I am just really tired of that scene. I have also been to Fortaleza and it is not really for me.
I am more of a big city guy. I am from NYC where I have been most of life except having lived in Paris and London for a few years each. So Big city is for me.
I speak Portuguese fairly well so language will not be an issue for me in SP.
While I don't want to spend a fortune on a girl money is less of a concern than finding the right scene for my tastes.
I do not like terma like environments I prefer my hotel or apartment.
I hate fake breasts. I really do not need model like women. I would rather have an average girl with a pretty face and nice smile.
So even after RTFF I am still confused.
The Cafe Foto type places seem to have women too old and too fake. prefer 19-24 years old with real breasts and grils who do not think they are model types.
I do not need champagne type places but also prefer not to be in the "gutter"
Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tiradentes]Sampa is the largest mongering place in the world. Surely, you will find what you like at a reasonable price .
Places like Cafe Foto, Bomboa, etc.(seems a new high end place opens every week) should be shunned. Their prices outweigh the quality and the service you will receive.
To find nice talent at reasonable pices, I suggest lower end tiers, such as Kilt, Vagao, etc. They both are located in Centro, Nestor Pestana (sp) street.
Any taxi would know these places.[/QUOTE]
I agree with this cat.
My girlfriend was out of town last week so I took a buddy of mine, new to the scene, out for a spin around Augusta.
A few places I like on Augusta: Maison, Caribe and Casarao.
These places can be hit and miss but I've found gems in all of them.
About 10R entrance and includes a beer or two.
My buddy found a pretty garota in Maison that he fell in love with.
She wanted 125R plus 20R for the room. With just a little fun and laughter, I easily got her down to 90R total for in-house service.
I met a couple cuties in Caribe, but this night I found my gem in Casarao.
Wow, she was a beautiful moreninha. Thin but curvy. Patricia.
After chatting a bit, she said she like to get 150R plus 25R for the room.
I told her, though she certainly deserved that much, I could only pay 80R plus 25R for the room. She was so pretty, I didn't even want to try and negotiate lower.
She said she was OK with that, so I paid at the front desk and up we went for fun.
Fantastic.
All in all, goes to show that in SP, you just don't have to break the bank for good fun.
Matter of fact, one of my favorite garotas I've met in all of SP was in a 1R a minute barsinho.
Boa sorte ....
I now realize that amount you had paid is about USD 80.
Far too much for an extra guest.
Even if you change from single occupancy to double occupancy, probably you don't pay such extra amount.
...
No, you don't even pay a difference at Sheraton.
Try to book a single or a double at that hotel and you will see rate is in both cases USD 310.
[QUOTE=Johntodd]Yes, it definately was a 150 real fee. If I can find a copy of the receipt I will post.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Albert Punter]Escort services or prostitutes are legal here, no problem.
Also, as far as I know all hotels are girls friendly.
Furthermore, you may explain to the reception (most likely only to male staff) what is your need and they either show you a book from where you can choose a girl of your liking or can send a girl to your room (no obligation to buy).
Otherwise, tell us what catched your attention reading the forum and someone will surely help.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the help albert,
My problem is that I do not understand sao paulo from the geografy. I stay in alphaville but from what I understand this is far far away from everything. I have the chance to change the hotel. So what can be a good location if I want to be "at the spot". I have read the froum, but I don't know what is the best place to Wstart" from.
Any help on this would be wonderfull.
Thanks!
Will
[QUOTE=Will Smith69]Thanks for the help albert,
My problem is that I do not understand sao paulo from the geografy. I stay in alphaville but from what I understand this is far far away from everything. I have the chance to change the hotel. So what can be a good location if I want to be "at the spot". I have read the froum, but I don't know what is the best place to Wstart" from.
Any help on this would be wonderfull.
Thanks!
Will[/QUOTE]
Quite some locations are good, certainly not Alphaville. Moema is an area sufficently central and so is Jardins.
Right decision to change your hotel, Alphaville is really away from everything.
Is there any special reason you decided to stay there. Maybe your business partners are located there ? You may say I am curious.
Many years ago when my partners were located there I used to stay in Jardins.
I second what Bionicman suggested: Jardins and Moema are good areas.
[QUOTE=Will Smith69]Thanks for the help albert,
My problem is that I do not understand sao paulo from the geografy. I stay in alphaville but from what I understand this is far far away from everything. I have the chance to change the hotel. So what can be a good location if I want to be "at the spot". I have read the froum, but I don't know what is the best place to Wstart" from.
Any help on this would be wonderfull.
Thanks!
Will[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Albert Punter]Right decision to change your hotel, Alphaville is really away from everything.
Is there any special reason you decided to stay there. Maybe your business partners are located there? You may say I am curious.
Many years ago when my partners were located there I used to stay in Jardins.
I second what Bionicman suggested: Jardins and Moema are good areas.[/QUOTE]jes exactly. Our partners have organiced this. But we can relocate so it would be better. So I understadn that if we relocate we should go for Jardins or Moema. Ok I will see if I finde a hotel there.
Thanks it is difficult to get all things sortet out.
I I am searching for the "places to go" you think I search for Jardins and Moema and I finde the right informations. Right.
So I try.
Thanks again!
[QUOTE=Will Smith69]Moema[/QUOTE]
Moema is an enjoyable neighborhood but rather remote ...if you stay in Moema and monger around Centro and Pinheiros taxis will cost you a little fortune. Better stay in Jardins.
You are right to have changed anyhow. Alphaville is a soulless gated condominums "city" with absolutely no options, 30 kms west !!
Ok so I understand this is not the best place to stay, but I have no choice.
Can anyone advise me as to best options for pay4play around (or within reasonable cab distance) from the Comfort Suites hotel here in Alphaville?
Brothels, clubs, massage, any help would be appreciated.
Will,
Attached is a file which shows location of various "bairros" mentioned by Prosal, so that you can have an idea of distances.
IMHO staying in Moema is not so dramatic as far as distances and taxi fares.
Many of the girls reside in Jardins, which is 20 R by taxi.
A ride between Moema and Centro can be 30 R and 25 minutes ?
Obviously I am considering night-time with no traffic.
[QUOTE=Prosal]Moema is an enjoyable neighborhood but rather remote ...if you stay in Moema and monger around Centro and Pinheiros taxis will cost you a little fortune. Better stay in Jardins.
You are right to have changed anyhow. Alphaville is a soulless gated condominums "city" with absolutely no options, 30 kms west !![/QUOTE]
In my mind Moema is better than Jardins or any other locations in Sampa. It's « far » from centro only if you need to hobby down there. Bu why hobby down there? There's everything in Moema. By eveything I mean privês, swing clubs, boates. You're close to Cafe Photo or other places in the same category.
If you prefer to hobby in Vila Mariana or Novo Brooklin (as I frequently do ) you're close to these bairros.
Like Jardins, a lot of garotas live in Moema (especially in the Sonesta on Ibirapuera Blvd.).
The bairro is quiet (it's the prominent aspect of this hood). You can walk at night without danger.
The only problem is when you try to get out of the hood at rush hours.
It's a good spot to meet non pros. (My latest conquest was a book seller working near Praça dos Pombos and Nossa Senhora de Aparecida)
Of course, I'm not impartial. Sayng this I realze that I should keep my mouth shut because I wouldn't like to see too many gringos in my favorite playground. Lol...
[QUOTE=Albert Punter]Attached is a file which shows location of various "bairros" mentioned by Prosal, so that you can have an idea of distances.[/QUOTE]
Without being controversial, you rightly pointed out on your map the name of the districts, but without demarcations it's not really graphic. Those are VERY large districts and the distances vary considerably depending on whether you stay in one part of the bairro or in another (in the case of Moema, north of south).
Jardins (which is the addition of three bairros, Jardim¨Paulista, J.Europa and J.Americano) stretches much norther than your mark. It's in reality delimited north by Av Reboucas and Av Paulista so borders Bela Vista and Consolacao (which themselves border Centro), and south by Ibirapuera Park so borders also Moema.
Moema, also, stretches from Ibirapuera Park to Congonhas (that doesn't even appear on your map) and is a district much bigger than what you marked. I'd say that the distance between Congonhas and Centro is about 12 km.
Same for Pinheiros. Its northern part (where Bomboa is located) is delimited by av Dr Arnaldo and is attenant to Consolacao, thus rather close to Centro. It's a huge bairro indeed.
[QUOTE=Albert Punter]A ride between Moema and Centro can be 30 R and 25 minutes ?Obviously I am considering night-time with no traffic.[/QUOTE]
It's more like 40RS night time.
[QUOTE=Sui Generis]In my mind Moema is better than Jardins or any other locations in Sampa. It's « far » from centro only if you need to hobby down there. Bu why hobby down there? There's everything in Moema. By eveything I mean privês, swing clubs, boates. You're close to Cafe Photo or other places in the same category.[/QUOTE]
Why mongering in Centro? simply because of the best strip clubs in Brasil (Kilt, Vargao, My Love, ect), and above all because of Love Story, the best pick-up club and wildest after hours on the planet! :)
Anyway despite all its wonders (once more, I find Moema being a highly enjoyable neighborhood, as by the way many other neighborhoods in SP, which REALLY doens't deserves its reputation of "ugly city", qualifier that I'd personally better attribute to Rio), Moema is incontestably a bairro for "early-to-bed" persons. There's few night options (but many good restaurants though) and it's not a nighlife district by any means, contrarily to Itaim Bibi/Vila Olimpia, Vila Madalena, Pinheiros or Bela Cintra, where there is literally thousands of venues of all kind.
One other minus of Moema is that there's no Metro station. You have to catch the Linha 1 - first station at 3 km - if you want to go strollling around Centro during daytime (which is really enjoyable and captivating).
Talking about well located great nightlife districts, no one has ever mentionned here the revival of the bairro that is now referred to as Baixo Augusta, the area that stretches along Rua Augusta and the two parallel avenues that flank it, Rua Bela Cintra and Rua Frei Caneca (which was a low-end red-light district, but in the last few years has also become a lounges, upscale restaurants and clubs "bohemian" nightlife area). There is a new Mercure Apartment in this bairro (that is more largely known as Bela Vista), which will be my new favorite place to stay in SP as it is also at walking distance to Jardins, really close to Centro and not far to Pinheiros -and Bomboa, which remains for me the greatest boite in SA.
It looks like 1 less spot. someone can confirm?
[url]http://ultimainstancia.uol.com.br/clipping_ver.php?idConteudo=2953[/url]
I was reading the older reports. It seems they have already a new location planned?
1st trip in a few weeks. I was planning on at least checking it out but seemed a little overpriced and also seemed a little too "formal" for my tastes at least from the pictures at there website.
Prosal,
your knowledge of SP is huge....for how long did you live here ? Cause I guess if one come just for short term holidays needs a lot of time to get to your level of knowledge here.
Did you ever miss the fact there is no sea here ?
I mean how did you kill the time during the day waiting for start the night life at the evening ?
[QUOTE=Lukasek]I mean how did you kill the time during the day waiting for start the night life at the evening ?[/QUOTE]
Just strolling around. There's plenty of highly enjoyable bairros in Sao Paulo. Literally dozens, and not only the poshest ones. And in the evening, you can hit two different cool and "hip" bars every day of the week during one year without even begin to discover what the city has to offer in term of nightlife. Same for P4P venues. It's literally endless.
SP is for me the best city in Brasil in every respect (atmosphere, culture, nightlife, mongering, P4P, women, fine food, safety, ect). Yeah, there's no beach, but personally I fuking don't care about the beach. And anyhow, Litoral Norte, that harbours some of the most beautiful and happening beaches in Brasil, is only at some 80 km and a 20 RS bus ticket ... which is great to kick back for a few days with a chick or two on board (in Sao Paulo, all boites close on weekends, and girls are usually VERY enthusiast if a cosmopolitan and cool gringo offer them a Sat/Sunday short break in a nice pousada in Camburi or Maresias ...I personally did it several times, including once with two mclass meninas, and for absolutely no other costs than the trip expenses ..great memories !!).
Anyhow, how some people can say that Sao Paulo is an "ugly" and "boring" city is beyond me. Compared to SP, Rio is an annoying dump with no substance .....that being said, I'm rather happy that the Rio mongers remain in fuking Rio to screw faveladas. Last thing I'd like to see is this kind of gringos invading Love Story !!!
Thanks for your kind words anyway. When we meet to down some Baltikas ? ... later this year, in Vladivostok, or Tashkent ?
;)
[QUOTE=Prosal]Just strolling around. There's plenty of highly enjoyable bairros in Sao Paulo. Literally dozens, and not only the poshest ones. And in the evening, you can hit two different cool and "hip" bars every day of the week during one year without even begin to discover what the city has to offer in term of nightlife. Same for P4P venues. It's literally endless.
SP is for me the best city in Brasil in every respect (atmosphere, culture, nightlife, mongering, P4P, women, fine food, safety, ect). Yeah, there's no beach, but personally I fuking don't care about the beach. And anyhow, Litoral Norte, that harbours some of the most beautiful and happening beaches in Brasil, is only at some 80 km and a 20 RS bus ticket ... which is great to kick back for a few days with a chick or two on board (in Sao Paulo, all boites close on weekends, and girls are usually VERY enthusiast if a cosmopolitan and cool gringo offer them a Sat/Sunday short break in a nice pousada in Camburi or Maresias ...I personally did it several times, including once with two mclass meninas, and for absolutely no other costs than the trip expenses ..great memories !!).
Anyhow, how some people can say that Sao Paulo is an "ugly" and "boring" city is beyond me. Compared to SP, Rio is an annoying dump with no substance .....that being said, I'm rather happy that the Rio mongers remain in Rio to screw faveladas. Last thing I'd like to see is gringos invading Love Story !!!
Thanks for your kind words anyway. When we meet to down some Baltikas ? ... later this year, in Vladivostok, or Tashkent ?
;)[/QUOTE]
Nice shots of the 5th Avenue, or Faubourg St Honorè, or via Montenapoleone of Sao Paulo!:)) full of nice restaurants there too
[QUOTE=Prosal]Just strolling around. There's plenty of highly enjoyable bairros in Sao Paulo. Literally dozens, and not only the poshest ones. And in the evening, you can hit two different cool and "hip" bars every day of the week during one year without even begin to discover what the city has to offer in term of nightlife. Same for P4P venues. It's literally endless.
SP is for me the best city in Brasil in every respect (atmosphere, culture, nightlife, mongering, P4P, women, fine food, safety, ect). Yeah, there's no beach, but personally I fuking don't care about the beach. And anyhow, Litoral Norte, that harbours some of the most beautiful and happening beaches in Brasil, is only at some 80 km and a 20 RS bus ticket ... which is great to kick back for a few days with a chick or two on board (in Sao Paulo, all boites close on weekends, and girls are usually VERY enthusiast if a cosmopolitan and cool gringo offer them a Sat/Sunday short break in a nice pousada in Camburi or Maresias ...I personally did it several times, including once with two mclass meninas, and for absolutely no other costs than the trip expenses ..great memories !!).
Anyhow, how some people can say that Sao Paulo is an "ugly" and "boring" city is beyond me. Compared to SP, Rio is an annoying dump with no substance .....that being said, I'm rather happy that the Rio mongers remain in Rio to screw faveladas. Last thing I'd like to see is gringos invading Love Story !!!
Thanks for your kind words anyway. When we meet to down some Baltikas ? ... later this year, in Vladivostok, or Tashkent ?
;)[/QUOTE]
Very nice collection of pix. Clean!
All I ever heard about SP is how conjested and polluted the air is.
Thanks for sharing, Schwmm
[QUOTE=Bionicman] full of nice restaurants there[/QUOTE]
Yeah, Sao Paulo is full of nice and good restaurants. It's the result of several immigration waves of Italians, Southeast Europeans, Japoneses, Libaneses, Polishs, and some other ethnicities. The product (blended with the fact that every dump from Macapa to Rio Branco send their best culinary talents - and hottest girls - for a chance at Bright Lights Big City) makes of SP the world's culinary capital, bar none.
[QUOTE=Bionicman]Nice shots of the Faubourg St Honorè of Sao Paulo![/QUOTE]
Well, not really. It's random shots of Jardins, Itaim Bibi (outdoor cafes pics), Pinheiros and Moema (Sui Generis will recognize the "A Estalagem" terrace!), so adminitratively Zona Centro-Sul and Zona Centro-Oeste, and geographically Centro Expandido. A huge part of SP, and very representative of what the city looks like IMO. Yet if you want more pics about other cool bairros (agree that there's dozens of more "bohemian" or middle-class neighborhoods - just as enjoyable - but also some others much more glamour and posh like Jardim America, Vila Nova Conceicao or Jardim Europa), just ask, I can provide !!
BTW, in Paris (as in Sao Paulo), I'd rather stroll around neighborhoods like Faubourg St Honore or Bld des Capucines than in dump periferias like La Courneuve or Montreuil. That is why I live very close from Opera.
;)
[QUOTE=Prosal]...When we meet to down some Baltikas ? ... later this year, in Vladivostok, or Tashkent ?[/QUOTE]
Irkutsk remain more appealing to me, especially cause I had to go there on 2004...
Honestly my weak point is that I miss and love too much beaches, but this time, as you will read soon in my next report of Rio, it was the last one for the moment.
Thanks for the photos of SP, it looks like much better than Rio, actually reminds me south of Brazil, for example Curitiba, nice buildings, clean streets, girls dressing nice and walking with class....
Time for me to go to asap to FKK, I need some quality pussy at very affordable prices, cause even if it is true that when I have fun I care no much about money, it is true too, that this time in Rio I almost had no fun at all.....the best Prosal, bye for now
[QUOTE=Prosal]Well, not really. It's random shots of Jardins, Itaim Bibi (outdoor cafes pics), Pinheiros and Moema. So adminitratively Zona Centro-Sul and Zona Centro-Oeste, and geographically Centro Expandido. A huge part of SP, and very representative of what the city looks like IMO. Yet if you want more pics about other cool bairros (agree that there's dozens of more "bohemians" or middle-class neighborhoods, and undoubtedly just as enjoyable), just ask, I can provide!
Yeah, Sao Paulo is full of nice and good restaurants. It's the result of several rather recent immigration waves of Italians, Southeast Europeans, Japoneses, Libaneses, Polishs, and some other ethnicities. The product (blended with the fact that all the dumps from Macapa to Rio Branco send their best culinary talents. And hottest girls. For a chance at Bright Lights Big City) makes of SP the world's culinary capital, bar none.
.[/QUOTE]Yes more photos of sao paulo. SP is still such a mystery on this board and is really untouched in terms of the knowledge and expousure. I don't mind seeing the good with the bad sections. I relaize there are rough parts in SP such as crackolandia and many favelas but there is also good positive sights.
[QUOTE=Prosal]Yeah, Sao Paulo is full of nice and good restaurants. It's the result of several immigration waves of Italians, Southeast Europeans, Japoneses, Libaneses, Polishs, and some other ethnicities. The product (blended with the fact that every dump from Macapa to Rio Branco send their best culinary talents - and hottest girls - for a chance at Bright Lights Big City) makes of SP the world's culinary capital, bar none.
Well, not really. It's random shots of Jardins, Itaim Bibi (outdoor cafes pics), Pinheiros and Moema (Sui Generis will recognize the "A Estalagem" terrace!), so adminitratively Zona Centro-Sul and Zona Centro-Oeste, and geographically Centro Expandido. A huge part of SP, and very representative of what the city looks like IMO. Yet if you want more pics about other cool bairros (agree that there's dozens of more "bohemian" or middle-class neighborhoods - just as enjoyable - but also some others much more glamour and posh like Jardim America, Vila Nova Conceicao or Jardim Europa), just ask, I can provide !!
BTW, in Paris (as in Sao Paulo), I'd rather stroll around neighborhoods like Faubourg St Honore or Bld des Capucines than in dump periferias like La Courneuve or Montreuil. That is why I live very close from Opera.
;)[/QUOTE]The great thing about SP is the capacity to generate new food places that have not only food pleasure but also architectural features that one can seldom find around the world.
Aside the more traditional Barbacoa (a must for me at least once or twice during my stays) there are tens of locations where the surroundings of the table make a perfect match with the food.
Always a pleasure to go and discover them.
Haddock Lobo and Oscar Freire definetely deserve the definition, withing the brazilian environment, of the Faubourg..:)
[QUOTE=InBrazilSoon]It looks like 1 less spot. someone can confirm?
[url]http://ultimainstancia.uol.com.br/clipping_ver.php?idConteudo=2953[/url]
I was reading the older reports. It seems they have already a new location planned?
1st trip in a few weeks. I was planning on at least checking it out but seemed a little overpriced and also seemed a little too "formal" for my tastes at least from the pictures at there website.[/QUOTE]
I fear that Cafè Foto is closed for good. The girl I'm keeping in touch with just wrote me an email confirming the closure. The new spot has been ready for a while now, hopefully will re-open soon.
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Albert, Ricker, Tiradentes, everyone,
Thanks for the suggestions.
So places like Maison, Caribe and Casarao, vagao, kilt
At all of these places take out to my apartment/hotel is an option?
I'll be in SP next week, pm me if any one wants to go to boites together.
Dear all,
Thanks for all of your incredible help. Perfect tips! Without I would not have suvived in this wonderfull town.
I followd the tip to leave the hotel in alphavill as soon as I could and moved into the unique hotel. This is very unique. A wonderful hotel, very GF, and also a good location even if you only can use a taxi.
As recomendet I visited the kilt and I must say a good place, not fancy but I think even gone there a bit late (1pm) it was a very good selecion of girls, even a gooh hand full of noce who speak english. So I decidet for a very nice one. 300r for 2-3 h. She never looked at the watch. We had a wonderfull drink at the rooftop bar and then had some hours of fun. Perfect.
The other night I was on the road with frindes and they showed us the "old" Photo. The building is now compleety demolished. And then the "neW one.
What a place.
A huge building, an impressing entrance. Like you go into a high securety area if an financial institut (this is always a bit of the athmosphere there)
Nice girls, but I never got in the right moode. The whole place is to cold, and I mean also the themperature! It was freezing in this place. 175r entry plus some drings was the damage. The girls don't start under 500r and I think I don't like this place!
Thanks again to all of you and I would love tom go back! Asap
I only know Vagao and Kilt.
Take out is ONLY option there.
[QUOTE=InBrazilSoon]Albert, Ricker, Tiradentes, everyone,
Thanks for the suggestions.
So places like Maison, Caribe and Casarao, vagao, kilt
At all of these places take out to my apartment/hotel is an option?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Albert Punter]I only know Vagao and Kilt.
Take out is ONLY option there.[/QUOTE]
That ain't right !
You can bang the chicka in Kilt, if you want. They have small couches on the second floor, seperated by curtains. Not a great thing because of the small place, but it can be done.
[QUOTE=Tiradentes]That ain't right !You can bang the chicka in Kilt, if you want. They have small couches on the second floor, seperated by curtains. Not a great thing because of the small place, but it can be done.[/QUOTE]
Seconded.
BTW Kilt (as most others strip bars in SP) is a real cool place, and has a great selection of talents ...many in the Paulista "girl next door" type, which is great.
[QUOTE=Prosal]Seconded.
Kilt (as most others strip bars in SP) is a really cool place, and has a great selection of talents ...many in the "girl next door" type, which is great.[/QUOTE]
I actually like the place right across the street much better ... My Love.
I find it friendlier and easier going, less expensive, as garotas just as nice usually.
Was out and about the other day in SP and hit a couple of my little hidden favorite places in o Centro.
After a week in Medellin, Colombia I was ready for some fun with a Brasileira :)
I wanted to meet someone new.
Anyway, I saw this beautiful little little, lighter skin moreninha sitting by herself.
What a beautiful smile and face and a little spinner body to go along with it.
It still amazes me some of the beauties you can meet away from the high-end, high-cost clubs.
Of course you have to sift thru some fugly garotas I hate to say, in these low-end areas, but the catch is worth the hunt IMO.
She told me that she'd seen me in the place before, but I didn't speak with her. It's crazy that I missed her before.
I had a Coca Cola with her, that's what she wanted.
She's 20 and sweet.
I like to chat and laugh a bit with a girl to show that I'm not some rough-neck and to gain their trust. I gave her a little box of chocolates (I usually carry a few with me)
She loved it.
Me too :)
Went back for 30 minutes, 40R plus 10R tip ... hard to believe. Great time, great energy.
Anyway, she likes me, and of course I like her too.
I told her I'd be back in SP this Friday and I'd love to take her to the movies and for a drink afterwards, then to my hotel room to chill.
Can you believe she told me that she's NEVER been to the movies and was excited.
This is going to be fun!!
I'll post a follow up and some fotos later.
(the fotos will be edited to protect her ID though. that's the way I do it, don't care if guys give me grief)
Take care amigos ...
Ricker,
Where did you meet her? did you forget to mention this or was that intentional?
:)
Yes, you can bang girls wherever you like ...
I remember guys banging girls in the corners/restrooms of Bar Rouge in Shanghai ([url]http://www.bar-rouge-shanghai.com/[/url]).
Those of you who know that sophisticated place would agree it is not ... appropriate.
Therefore, I didn't consider that option as really it is not how I like to enjoy the act.
I mean it is under what I believe a minimum level of comfort and privacy.
[QUOTE=Tiradentes]That ain't right !
You can bang the chicka in Kilt, if you want. They have small couches on the second floor, seperated by curtains. Not a great thing because of the small place, but it can be done.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Will Smith69]Dear all,
Thanks for all of your incredible help. Perfect tips! Without I would not have suvived in this wonderfull town.
I followd the tip to leave the hotel in alphavill as soon as I could and moved into the unique hotel. This is very unique. A wonderful hotel, very GF, and also a good location even if you only can use a taxi.
As recomendet I visited the kilt and I must say a good place, not fancy but I think even gone there a bit late (1pm) it was a very good selecion of girls, even a gooh hand full of noce who speak english. So I decidet for a very nice one. 300r for 2-3 h. She never looked at the watch. We had a wonderfull drink at the rooftop bar and then had some hours of fun. Perfect.
The other night I was on the road with frindes and they showed us the "old" Photo. The building is now compleety demolished. And then the "neW one.
What a place.
A huge building, an impressing entrance. Like you go into a high securety area if an financial institut (this is always a bit of the athmosphere there)
Nice girls, but I never got in the right moode. The whole place is to cold, and I mean also the themperature! It was freezing in this place. 175r entry plus some drings was the damage. The girls don't start under 500r and I think I don't like this place!
Thanks again to all of you and I would love tom go back! Asap[/QUOTE]
So the new foto is open?
bb5
[QUOTE=Albert Punter]Yes, you can bang girls wherever you like ...
I remember guys banging girls in the corners/restrooms of Bar Rouge in Shanghai ([url]http://www.bar-rouge-shanghai.com/[/url]).
Those of you who know that sophisticated place would agree it is not ... appropriate.
Therefore, I didn't consider that option as really it is not how I like to enjoy the act.
I mean it is under what I believe a minimum level of comfort and privacy.[/QUOTE]
I have to admit that I am constantly amazed by the breadth of experience of mongers. I was reading the Sampa board, mostly because I haven't been in 2 years and miss it, now that I am on the other side of the world. When what do I see is a reference to Bar Rouge in Shanghai. A place I visited just a couple of weeks ago!! Unbelievable! Anyway I cannot imagine anyone "getting their freak on" in Bar Rouge....but long ago got over being surprised by many things....:-)
Will Smith reference to Hotel Unique brings back lots of memories! I love this hotel and IMHO, the Sky Bar on the roof maybe one of, if not the best all around bar in the world! If that place isn't one of the most romantic and sensual places on earth (well a bar anyway), then I can see I need to do a LOT more research! Stay horny my friends!! ( kudos to Cuba Nut)
[QUOTE=Sky Ryder] Hotel Unique brings back lots of memories! I love this hotel and IMHO, the Sky Bar on the roof maybe one of, if not the best all around bar in the world![/QUOTE]
The pool isn't bad either.
Can anyone suggest any muscular/athletic ladies in SP in the various clubs?
Thanks!
Have a look at the information posted in their website
[QUOTE=Bobo5]So the new foto is open?
bb5[/QUOTE]
Went there in Nov 08 the best night of my life. Went there around 7 pm talked to 40 girls and picked one that was a girl next door type, went back to my hotel in her car and she made me cum 4 times in 7 hours. Romaza the next night and a damn good time there as well. All I say if I die and wake up in cafe photo I know I am in heaven.
Hi,
I'm going to SP in May/June. Have been to Rio once before. I have a couple of questions, where I hope you can help me out. I have read a bit on the forum, but it didn't really answer everything. I am an early 30ies danish guy, and I'm going with one or two friends.
1) Does SP have discos like Help, where there are available freelancers? If I don't get non-pros (my first choice), a place like Help would be perfect. I don't want a typical brothel, where I choose, and the girls have no choice. I want a more GFE-experience. Other suggestions/thoughts?
2) We are on a budget, and haven't decided where to stay. Going two people, maybe renting apartment (for about one week) would maybe be best choice (at least for meeting women). We are going out at night, to bars/discos, and want to stay "centrally located". Any tips on where to rent shorttime apartment, or budget hotels where we can take women? What area would you recommend (to stay) for tourism/partying/meeting girls?
3) I have read about a few stripclubs. Are strippers in most places available for take-out (guess that is generally expensive)?
I am thankful for any help. Btw, I speak very limited portuguese (will learn a little before I go though). I speak good english and some spanish.
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A little back and forward here. Just wanted to delete my question number two, about apartments/hotels. There are good enough info on here already, and I will go for Itaim Bibi/Vila Olimpia or Pinheiros.
So, here are my updated questions:
1) Are there "normal" discos, more like Help, in SP as well? A place with many freelancers, but not a straight brothel where you do all the choosing? Does Love Story have many freelancers, or are they very hard to find there? I prefer non-pros though. Guess there will be great nightlife every night in such a big city.
2) Are strippers in stripclubs almost always available for take-out?
I will be in Sao Paulo for two weeks. Unfortunately, I have to stay in the Marriott close to the international airport. I searched the forum, but did not see any mention of the Marriott.
Does anyone know if the Marriott is girl friendly and will let a guest stay without hassle or charge?
Does anyone know of any places close to the Marriott that are good for mongering?
Are there any good escort services that are near that area?
Thanks for any info you could provide!
Hi,
I'm visiting SP Thursday until Sunday from the US, staying in Centro area hotel. Any fellow hobbyists want to go out on Friday or Saturday to show me some of the sites?
Steve 39yr CA
[QUOTE=Todayisnice]I will be in Sao Paulo for two weeks. Unfortunately, I have to stay in the Marriott close to the international airport. I searched the forum, but did not see any mention of the Marriott.
Does anyone know if the Marriott is girl friendly and will let a guest stay without hassle or charge?
Does anyone know of any places close to the Marriott that are good for mongering?
Are there any good escort services that are near that area?
Thanks for any info you could provide![/QUOTE]
They must be girl friendly, because the taxi drivers have a price list which includes one of the clubs about 25 minutes drive aways from the hotel (they charge R$ 100,-- I believe, if you want them to wait it is something like R$ 150,). I forgot the name of the place, but it is a big place with about 60 women. Not the cheapest, but good value. It is in between the airport and "downtown"
cherio
Here are my answers.
1) I don't know Help in Rio. I believe you mean discos where common people go. Yes, there are plenty. Da Mata for example is a nice place IMHO.
You said you will stay in Vila Olimpia area and there you will find a lot of bars with or without live music where people meet and it is easy to find company.
2) Sorry I don't know. Actually I don't know any strip club in SP (probably because that is not my type of place). Anyhow, I suggest that when you get in you ask to someone if girls are available for take out.
[QUOTE=Scandic]A little back and forward here. Just wanted to delete my question number two, about apartments/hotels. There are good enough info on here already, and I will go for Itaim Bibi/Vila Olimpia or Pinheiros.
So, here are my updated questions:
1) Are there "normal" discos, more like Help, in SP as well? A place with many freelancers, but not a straight brothel where you do all the choosing? Does Love Story have many freelancers, or are they very hard to find there? I prefer non-pros though. Guess there will be great nightlife every night in such a big city.
2) Are strippers in stripclubs almost always available for take-out?[/QUOTE]
Hi,
I will be in SP at 3rd and 4th March and will be staying at Mercure Grand Hotel SP Ibirapuera. Is it ok to bring woman to the hotel and are there nice places where I can find beautiful women?
[QUOTE=Scandic]Hi,
1) Does SP have discos like Help, where there are available freelancers? If I don't get non-pros (my first choice), a place like Help would be perfect. I don't want a typical brothel, where I choose, and the girls have no choice. I want a more GFE-experience. Other suggestions/thoughts?
2) We are on a budget, and haven't decided where to stay. Going two people, maybe renting apartment (for about one week) would maybe be best choice (at least for meeting women). We are going out at night, to bars/discos, and want to stay "centrally located". Any tips on where to rent shorttime apartment, or budget hotels where we can take women? What area would you recommend (to stay) for tourism/partying/meeting girls?
3) I have read about a few stripclubs. Are strippers in most places available for take-out (guess that is generally expensive)?
I am thankful for any help. Btw, I speak very limited portuguese (will learn a little before I go though). I speak good english and some spanish.[/QUOTE]
First off, you should know that SP is a very different environment than Rio for Mongering, in my opinion. Not only are the laws different, but also the kind of girls as well. Clubs cannot have rooms on premise, and the spa/termas are very well disguised as legitimate spas. Also, interestingly enough many girls I've been with in SP have told me that they don't like men from Rio because they are too "fresh" and "barbaric" with them. Demanding extreme services like anal or getting as much sex as possible in the alloted time. That said, I have had some incredible experiences in SP that are in some ways more enjoyable than the kind I have had in Rio. Some PSE some GFE.
Cafe Photo is the nightclub for picking up girls to take back to your hotel. There are others like this Gauguin in Brooklyn Novo, but Cafe Photo is pretty much the Gold standard. High entry fee and per drink costs, but generally very attractive women....all of which are pro. I have not heard of a place that mixes pros and non-pros in SP like Help, but Cafe Photo is outstanding as far as the quality of the girls....and you can usually spend quite a lot of time flirting and talking with them at the club. Gauguin is OK, but some nights seem to be better than others there. There are a lot of girl friendly hotels in Brooklyn Novo around Gauguin including the Hilton and Quality Inn, and it seems to be central to everything else, including the subway system. R.$10-30 cab rides can get you to most of the other hotspots in the city.
The only strip club I have heard anything good about in SP is Kilt, which is your typical American style strip club with private dance areas. I know that the girls are available for take out, but there is usually some kind of exit fee. It's not my kind of scene, so I couldn't tell you anything more. Instead, I tend to go to the upmarket spas like Francebel.... which offers upmarket girls in a massage parlor setting for about R.$300 an hour. A little bit more pricey than some of the termas in Rio, but the girls tend to be on the high end of the scale, in my opinion.....Along the lines of Centaurus or Solarium in Rio and they all tend to give good massages too. I know that there are cheaper and less sophisticated spas and strip clubs, but as a solo non-drinking guy looking for action, the spas offer the most rewarding experiences in SP. Safety is also a concern at some of the lower end places, IMO.
If your Portuguese is not good, simply write the names and addresses of the places you want to go, and most hotel based cab drivers will know how to get there. Carry your hotel's address with you as well. Once you are at the place, all of the massage places will know why you are there, and they can arrange for cabs back to your hotel. I speak good Spanish, and can have great conversations with the girls in "Portuñol".
I have not done the apartment rental thing because I tend to always go to SP and Rio on business, but many of my buddies have had success with some of the websites, paying about $1000US/week for really nice places in SP and Rio. One buddy who frequently vacations in Brazil doesn't even bother with Sao Paulo and spends his time in Rio and Buzios.
[QUOTE=Adaptable] I have not heard of a place that mixes pros and non-pros in SP like Help[/QUOTE]
Love Story. Rua Araujo 232 (Republica area).
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=843647&postcount=89[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=844104&postcount=94[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjcYSYQdkPY&NR=1[/url]
[QUOTE=Adaptable] Clubs cannot have rooms on premise[/QUOTE]
Bomboa has rooms. As many other clubs in SP.
[QUOTE=Adaptable]
... First off, you should know that SP is a very different environment than Rio for Mongering, in my opinion. Not only are the laws different, but also the kind of girls as well. Clubs cannot have rooms on premise ... [/QUOTE]
Actually there are plenty of clubs with rooms on site to have fun with a chica.
For a start, about every club down Augusta has rooms available.
Anybody been there ?
It seems to be the former Conniff, but in new premises obviously. Still in Pinheiros though.
[url]http://www.conniff.com.br/misterium/misterium2.html[/url]
Albert Punter, Adaptable (!!), Prosal and Ricker.
Thank you very much for your input. It will be very helpful.
[QUOTE=Ricker]Actually there are plenty of clubs with rooms on site to have fun with a chica.
For a start, about every club down Augusta has rooms available.[/QUOTE]
That's interesting. I've had local guys tell me otherwise, and that the mayor cracked down on places like Bahamas a few years ago. What places on Rua Augusta specifically? I will be back in SP in March/early April.
Casarao, Balneario, Nova Maison, and Night House, just to name a few, have room on the premises. If you include the cheapo bars on Consolacao (Carioca Bar, Deusa'a Bar and others) there are plenty of locations to indulge on site. Just watch for bright neon lights, especially on Rua Augusta.
[QUOTE=Adaptable]That's interesting. I've had local guys tell me otherwise, and that the mayor cracked down on places like Bahamas a few years ago. What places on Rua Augusta specifically? I will be back in SP in March/early April.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Voyajer1]Casarao, Balneario, Nova Maison, and Night House, just to name a few, have room on the premises. If you include the cheapo bars on Consolacao (Carioca Bar, Deusa'a Bar and others) there are plenty of locations to indulge on site. Just watch for bright neon lights, especially on Rua Augusta.[/QUOTE]
Excellent! Thank you. More adventures in SP. What time do these places get going? If I go in the early evening (8pm-10pm), will there be any action?
[QUOTE=Adaptable]That's interesting. I've had local guys tell me otherwise, and that the mayor cracked down on places like Bahamas a few years ago. What places on Rua Augusta specifically? I will be back in SP in March/early April.[/QUOTE]
Actually, all of them.
I was just there 2 nights ago ... up in the room.
Specifically ... Night House.
[QUOTE=Adaptable]Excellent! Thank you. More adventures in SP. What time do these places get going? If I go in the early evening (8pm-10pm), will there be any action?[/QUOTE]
Better after 10pm, even better after 11pm.
If you visited the new local of Cafe fotos we would like to have your comments.
[QUOTE=Sperto]What I find impressing in São Paulo is the wide range of P4P. At the top the places where GK hangs out, and in the bottom a scene that's so extremely low and trashy that even I wrinkle my nose. Ed Itatiaia, R d Andrades 69, BJ-cinemas and streetwalkers so ugly that they give you goose bumps.[/QUOTE]
No more wrinkling of my nose when I visit Rua dos Andrades 69.
Last week I hade one hour to kill and decided to take a look at the 9 (?) story wh#re house in centro.
Twenty year old beautiful Luana works on the second floor. Very large natural breasts which were the most firm natural breasts I ever squeezed. Very amazing! Well invested 20 reais.
What I like most with Sao Paulo is leaving it. However it's quite fun to watch the paulistas dressing in winter clothes when the temperature goes down to 17 degrees.
[QUOTE=Sperto]
... What I like most with Sao Paulo is leaving it ... [/QUOTE]
Hey amigo, I dig your reports, info and posts.
Not sure why you enjoy leaving Sao Paulo.
I really dig the place and am sad when I have to leave.
Taker easy ...
I have been today to the new Cafe photo and It is closed.
Please any information why and when it is going to open.
[QUOTE=Ricker]Hey amigo, I dig your reports, info and posts.
Not sure why you enjoy leaving Sao Paulo.
I really dig the place and am sad when I have to leave.
Taker easy ...[/QUOTE]
Sao Paulo have a lot to offer, but it's just not my cup of tea. It's to huge, rainy, "cold", polluted and stressed for my liking. When I'm there I miss Rio with it's beauty, beaches and laid back atmosphere.
[QUOTE=Sperto]Sao Paulo have a lot to offer, but it's just not my cup of tea. It's to huge, rainy, "cold", polluted and stressed for my liking. When I'm there I miss Rio with it's beauty, beaches and laid back atmosphere.[/QUOTE]
Entendido ... I think, however, since I've spent quite a bit of time in SP over the past several years, I've met and made lots of friends and have gotten to know the city, I LOVE it!!
Have fun in Rio entao :)
Sao Paolo is a huge concrete jungle. It takes a long time to get used to all of the different neighborhoods in such a gigantic metropolis. Each are has its own flavor, just like any large city; however, the people and culture are based on the business side of the country. Everything is here is fast, busy and demanding. As hard as these people work, they also have a very playful side. Their leisure activities can be from the sophisticated to the downright raunchy. Look at the extremes in the P4P game, restaurants hotels, anything you can think of under the sun. Same thing with women: You can find all types, all kinds if you take the time to look around. I know the city lacks the breathtaking beauty of Rio de Janeiro, but for variety and diversity of options, Sao Paolo is really second to none in my opinion.
[QUOTE=Sperto]Sao Paulo have a lot to offer, but it's just not my cup of tea. It's to huge, rainy, "cold", polluted and stressed for my liking. When I'm there I miss Rio with it's beauty, beaches and laid back atmosphere.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Joe47]I have been today to the new Cafe photo and It is closed.
Please any information why and when it is going to open.[/QUOTE]
Cafe Photo is not open on Sundays.
GK
I went to Bamboa the other night. R200 to get in, and I'm pretty sure that counts against your drinks rather than the strict 4 drink exchange. Though with most drinks it still works out to R200 for 4 (expensive).
There were some beautiful women there, but I either got unlucky or the place is extremely expensive. First of all, they all wanted to go to the hotel to the right of the place (i.e., not to my hotel). Secondly, the prices I got quoted were R400 for an hour, R600 for all night, R450 for an hour in the hotel next door, and R800 for an hour at my hotel (3 different girls...the R450/R800 was from the same girl).
I went home and called an escort agency. They sent me an OK-looking girl for 250. Based on my single experience (which might be an outlier), I prefer Kilt to Bamboa.
I am finally going to make my first stay in Sao Paulo and I am excited! I will be staying very close to Paulista Ave and I see its also close to Augusta. I will definitely have to check out some of the joints on Augusta.
[QUOTE=Genghis Khan]Cafe Photo is not open on Sundays.
GK[/QUOTE]
I went out last night with a former Cafè Photo girl, she told me that the Cafè is closed and nobody knows when and if it will re-open.
Kassab, SP's major, is a bloody fag and is giving an hard time to all the fun places.
bb5
Visited Sao Paulo, contacted Julia, everything is on the menu with her, she is there to please, she is a very bright lady her English is excellent, she also speaks, German, French, Russian and of course Portugese.
Her fee is 200 Real for 2 hours, 400 Reals for overnight.
She is about 30 yrs old, very nice body, 34C 32 34, white skin, blond hair, this was my 3rd time with her, and I will definately call her upon my return.
[QUOTE=Johntodd]Visited Sao Paulo, contacted Julia, everything is on the menu with her, she is there to please, she is a very bright lady her English is excellent, she also speaks, German, French, Russian and of course Portugese.
Her fee is 200 Real for 2 hours, 400 Reals for overnight.
She is about 30 yrs old, very nice body, 34C 32 34, white skin, blond hair, this was my 3rd time with her, and I will definately call her upon my return.[/QUOTE]Got pics of her?
John Todd,
I am heading to SP on Sunday. I searched CL for Julia but found no hits. Can you provide contact info?
Thanks for your help.
Definitely NOT GF. Well, I guess they are. But you have to pay a R130 fee! Ouch!
Hi
Since it's my first time in SP I was wondering if there's any kind of dress code in places like Kilt / Bamboa. I was planning some nice jeans and a shirt. Is the implicit expectation something more fancy?
Any comment would be appreciated
You will be fine
[QUOTE=John Dane]Hi
Since it's my first time in SP I was wondering if there's any kind of dress code in places like Kilt / Bamboa. I was planning some nice jeans and a shirt. Is the implicit expectation something more fancy?
Any comment would be appreciated[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Smokers Rule]Definitely NOT GF. Well, I guess they are. But you have to pay a R130 fee! Ouch![/QUOTE]
Maksoud Plaza is so big, that no ones notices when you enter with a girl. Well, that's my experience.
The good thing about registering a girl is SAFETY. If the girl is registered with her ID, it is much less likely that she would commit violent crime on you. Brazil is a dangerous country after all ...
Regards. B.B.
This is probably true. My R130 experience was at 3 a.m., and she came to me.
[QUOTE=Bimbo Boy]Maksoud Plaza is so big, that no ones notices when you enter with a girl. Well, that's my experience.
The good thing about registering a girl is SAFETY. If the girl is registered with her ID, it is much less likely that she would commit violent crime on you. Brazil is a dangerous country after all ...
Regards. B.B.[/QUOTE]
I heard some rumours that Edson (the old manager of W, Jardim America, WE and W Garden) now has taken over Bon Vivant. Can anybody confirm this?
Does anybody know the current status of Garden Club/W Garden at Rua Alvorada 550, Vila Olimpia?
GK
[QUOTE=Bobo5]I went out last night with a former Cafè Photo girl, she told me that the Cafè is closed and nobody knows when and if it will re-open.
Kassab, SP's major, is a bloody fag and is giving an hard time to all the fun places.
bb5[/QUOTE]
The old Cafe Photo location is closed and sold to real estate developers. The new Cafe Photo location is open.
GK
[QUOTE=Genghis Khan]I heard some rumours that Edson (the old manager of W, Jardim America, WE and W Garden) now has taken over Bon Vivant. Can anybody confirm this?
Does anybody know the current status of Garden Club/W Garden at Rua Alvorada 550, Vila Olimpia?
GK[/QUOTE]
Dear GK
Café Bon Vivant is in full force. For those who don't know this nice venue in Sampa it's the former Donna's cafe and it's located in Pinheiros (on Avenida Henrique Schaumann, near the McDonalds, if it can help to orient yourself)
Garotas are stunning. Prices are between R$300 et R$500 for a garota.
Yes, Edson is still the dono da casa. Incidentally, there was a party earlier in March to celebrate his 50th birthday (I don't remember the exact day but it was around the 17th or 18th March)
R$190...only to get in.
Link: [url]http://www.barbonvivant.com.br/[/url]
Gentlemen,
I am going to be visiting SP the end of April.
I have never been to SP before.
I am going to staying at the Hilton in SP.
I wanted to know if anyone has any ladies that I could contact when I am there or if anyone has any suggestions to got to to find some Pro's or Non-Pro's.
If anyone has any phone numbers and or pictures if ladies I could call.
Thank you for your help.
TW
[QUOTE=Travelwind50]Gentlemen,
I am going to be visiting SP the end of April.
I have never been to SP before.
I am going to staying at the Hilton in SP.
I wanted to know if anyone has any ladies that I could contact when I am there or if anyone has any suggestions to got to to find some Pro's or Non-Pro's.
If anyone has any phone numbers and or pictures if ladies I could call.
Thank you for your help.
TW[/QUOTE]
Hi Travelwind50
I'd like to help but unfortunately you elude the real questions
a) Do you speak Portuguese?
b) What kind of garota you're looking for? Blonde, brunette, oriental, tall, big boned, enhanced?
c) How much are you ready to pay?
d) How old are you? (If you're 20 years old any dance place in Vila Olimpia or Pinheiros would be all right to meet non-pro).
Considering that your answer is too vague I think that I can sum up my answer with this advice: read this forum and you'll find what you're looking for.
Sampa is not Rio. To really take advantage of this mega-city it's mandatory to know Portuguese. But for a beginner, venues like Café Photo, Bomboa, Bon Vivant, etc, will do the business for you.
In answer to your first question, no I do not speak Portugese.
As for the garota, that is a hard question. I have traveled in other areas in Central and South America and i have found all of them attractive.
As for the how much, I usually use the going rate in the area.
As for my age, 46 years old.
[QUOTE=Sui Generis]Hi Travelwind50
I'd like to help but unfortunately you elude the real questions
a) Do you speak Portuguese?
b) What kind of garota you're looking for? Blonde, brunette, oriental, tall, big boned, enhanced?
c) How much are you ready to pay?
d) How old are you? (If you're 20 years old any dance place in Vila Olimpia or Pinheiros would be all right to meet non-pro).
Considering that your answer is too vague I think that I can sum up my answer with this advice: read this forum and you'll find what you're looking for.
Sampa is not Rio. To really take advantage of this mega-city it's mandatory to know Portuguese. But for a beginner, venues like Café Photo, Bomboa, Bon Vivant, etc, will do the business for you.[/QUOTE]
Considering the fact that you are 46 years old (I'm 52), one of the best place to meet non-pros garotas is 3P4 (Três por Quatro) in Itaim Bibi.
[url]http://www.3p4.com.br/[/url]
There are other good venues like
Piratinga (149, rue Wizard in Vila madalena),
Cahsmere (679, rua Henrique Schaumann, Pinheiros)
Pirasá (64, avenida Brigadeiro Faria, Jardin)
Flirting is « paquerar » in Portuguese. Do a Google search with São Paulo and paquerar, and you'll come up with an array of answers.
One of my favorite spot for non-pro is Bourbon Street (a jazz club) in Moema.
Considering garotas de programa never pay more than $R200. Unfortunately for you, all the girls I know are Portuguese monolingual.
You can always try Patricia Kimberly because, if I'm not mistaken, she can speak English.
The only garota I know who speaks fluently English (and Italian and Spanish) is Bella. As she is not my physical type I cannot vouch for her. I spend some time with her in private parties, I can tell you that she is very clever and entertaining. (I don't what are her rates but as far as I remember there a little bit higher, around R$200-R$300). I'll try to confirm this later perusing national forums. By the way, she's in her late 30's (with kids).
[url]http://www.malybu.com.br/acompanhante.php?garota=68[/url]
I have been back twenty pages looking for more details of the 'joints' mentioned on Rue Augusta. What sort of places are these and where in Rue Augusta - near to Centro area?
I ask about Rue Augusta because there seem to be quite a few reasonable hotels near there.
Can someone also give addresses for Kilt and Club Love that I believe is opposite?
[QUOTE=Sudsoz]I have been back twenty pages looking for more details of the 'joints' mentioned on Rue Augusta. What sort of places are these and where in Rue Augusta - near to Centro area?
I ask about Rue Augusta because there seem to be quite a few reasonable hotels near there.
Can someone also give addresses for Kilt and Club Love that I believe is opposite?[/QUOTE]Any taxi brings you to Kilt with his eyes shut. Better don't walk at night in the Rua Augusta.
[QUOTE=Sudsoz]I have been back twenty pages looking for more details of the 'joints' mentioned on Rue Augusta. What sort of places are these and where in Rue Augusta - near to Centro area?
I ask about Rue Augusta because there seem to be quite a few reasonable hotels near there.
Can someone also give addresses for Kilt and Club Love that I believe is opposite?[/QUOTE]Kilt is great. Good fun. A liitle expensive, though.
And you shouldn't miss Love Story.
Kilt
R. Nestor Pestana, 266
Center/Republica
Tel: 11-3258-7407
[url]http://www.kiltshows.com.br[/url]
Love Story.
Rua Araujo 232 (withAvenida Ipiranga) - Centro SP
[url]http://totalspguide.com/post/1145/Love-Story/[/url]
On the other side, what I have heard about the "joints' mentioned on Rue Augusta" is that they are cheap.. but no good.
Another 2 good links:
International Sex Address & Waypoint DataBase:
[url]http://www.isaw-db.com/map_sap.html[/url]
Bitchmaps Sao Paulo:
[url]http://maps.google.com/?q=http://bitchmaps.com/kmz/sp.kmz[/url]
Cheers
[QUOTE=Sudsoz]I have been back twenty pages looking for more details of the 'joints' mentioned on Rue Augusta. What sort of places are these and where in Rue Augusta - near to Centro area?
I ask about Rue Augusta because there seem to be quite a few reasonable hotels near there.
Can someone also give addresses for Kilt and Club Love that I believe is opposite?[/QUOTE]
Here's a link to Kilt's Web site:
[url]http://www.kiltshows.com.br/[/url]
[QUOTE=Guzzista]Any taxi brings you to Kilt with his eyes shut. Better don't walk at night in the Rua Augusta.[/QUOTE]
Thanks guys. Only there for two nights. Was thinking of getting a hotel on Rue Augusta near the action but maybe need to rethink that.
If you want info on SE Asia pleased to help.
[QUOTE=Guzzista]Any taxi brings you to Kilt with his eyes shut. Better don't walk at night in the Rua Augusta.[/QUOTE]
Well, if you don't know the area, a taxi would certainly be convenient, however, there is no problem walking down Rua Augusta.
I've been doing it for years.
As long as you"re not a moron walking about with jewelry and looking like a target, you'll be fine.
Lots of people on the street. Mostly partiers, teenagers hanging out in front of their little barzinhos, bar patrons, workers, etc.
The usual common sense precautions works fine.
It's actually a fun walk, checking out the bars and street girls.
No one bothers you, except guys trying to entice you into their club.
Have fun!!
Does anyone know a driver in Sao Paulo?
[QUOTE=Ricker]Well, if you don't know the area, a taxi would certainly be convenient, however, there is no problem walking down Rua Augusta.
I've been doing it for years.
As long as you"re not a moron walking about with jewelry and looking like a target, you'll be fine.
Lots of people on the street. Mostly partiers, teenagers hanging out in front of their little barzinhos, bar patrons, workers, etc.
The usual common sense precautions works fine.
It's actually a fun walk, checking out the bars and street girls.
No one bothers you, except guys trying to entice you into their club.
Have fun!![/QUOTE]
Thanks for the encouragement. Sounds like you just have to be aware - like most places at night.
[QUOTE=Sudsoz]Thanks for the encouragement. Sounds like you just have to be aware - like most places at night.[/QUOTE]Get an hotel close to Avenida Paulista. That's the best area and there are dozens of good hotels, stores, restaurants and all.
From there you can walk down by Rua Augusta to Kilt.
The area is relatively safe. But don't go at 4 am by empty streets.
Wherever there's people around you'll be in safe territory.
Renting phones in sao paulo and the metro system.
Any info on this?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Manute Bol]Renting phones in sao paulo and the metro system.
Any info on this?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Bring an old phone and put a chip you'll buy there.Some detailers may ask a CPF if you don't have one. Ask a local friend to do it for you.
The Metro system is fine and unexpensive. You can buy a bilhete único in any bancadas (or bancas de jornais = newspaper stands), in some stores (like pão de açucar) or, naturally in any metro stations.
You can put any amount of money on that card (if I remember it well, not over R$200 though)
Beware: at rush hours the metro is crowdyand it's not pleasant at all.
It runs every 2 to 4 minutes :D
[QUOTE=Sui Generis]
Beware: at rush hours the metro is crowdyand it's not pleasant at all.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sui Generis]Bring an old phone and put a chip you'll buy there.Some detailers may ask a CPF if you don't have one. Ask a local friend to do it for you.
The Metro system is fine and unexpensive. You can buy a bilhete único in any bancadas (or bancas de jornais = newspaper stands), in some stores (like pão de açucar) or, naturally in any metro stations.
You can put any amount of money on that card (if I remember it well, not over R$200 though)
Beware: at rush hours the metro is crowdyand it's not pleasant at all.[/QUOTE]I dont have a old phone. I prefer to rent for 1 week instead going through that.
[QUOTE=Voyajer1]It runs every 2 to 4 minutes :D[/QUOTE]
Here's a glimpse of what the metro looks like at rush hours
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ju6BHb6OStM[/url]
Actually, more than 13,000,000 passengers transit by the metro each day.
Here's a short video on the metro system in São Paulo
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qL1HPnJS_E[/url]
[QUOTE=Sui Generis]Here's a glimpse of what the metro looks like at rush hours
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ju6BHb6OStM[/url]
Actually, more than 13,000,000 passengers transit by the metro each day.
Here's a short video on the metro system in São Paulo
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qL1HPnJS_E[/url][/QUOTE]Where can I see a detailed map of the Sao metro in the centro area.
Thanks
I had no idea the trip looked so bad from where they filmed this. Yes, I've been in that gaggle many, many of times exploring the city. Se just happens to be one, if not the busiests stations in Sao Paolo because many lines (Incuding the recently merged CPTM with Metro lines) merge at this multiple-level, mega exchange station. Still beats the traffic outside in my opinion. Just push and fight your way on like a local.
[QUOTE=Sui Generis]Here's a glimpse of what the metro looks like at rush hours
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ju6BHb6OStM[/url]
Actually, more than 13,000,000 passengers transit by the metro each day.
Here's a short video on the metro system in São Paulo
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qL1HPnJS_E[/url][/QUOTE]
Use this link and click on Sao Paolo for the information you seek.
[url]http://www.urbanrail.net/index.html[/url][QUOTE=Manute Bol]Where can I see a detailed map of the Sao metro in the centro area.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Wow Voyajer1!
Thanks, this link is so cool!
[QUOTE=Voyajer1]Use this link and click on Sao Paolo for the information you seek.
[url]http://www.urbanrail.net/index.html[/url][/QUOTE]Thanks for that valueable info. How is the bus system in Sao Paulo?
If you use the bus system, I want you to explain it to me. I've been going there for years and I don't get it. Plus, you get stuck with the traffic during peak hours. But if you want the information, here is the link. Good luck!!!
[url]http://www.emtu.sp.gov.br/[/url]
[QUOTE=Manute Bol]Thanks for that valueable info. How is the bus system in Sao Paulo?[/QUOTE]
I transit frequently thru the bus system. It's fine when you know how it works. For that you have to know thre city. As I stay in Moema there's three paradas (bus stops) that are very usefull.
One of them is located on Ibirapuera. If I want to go to the nearest metro station, I just pick up a bus heading toward Santa Cruz (the destination is written in the upper front of the bus) or Praça da Arvore. If, instead I want to go directly to centro, I pick up a bus heading toward Praça da Sé or Anhagabu.
The other one is located on Santo Amaro and Eucaliptus (Eucaliptus parada). If I want to go to Novo Brooklin I just pick up a bus going that way. If I want to go to the other direction any bus where Pinheiros is written on it is good.
The third parada (it's jus a bus stop) is on the corner of Araguari and Pavão, just next to where I stay. That bus is going to the Ana Rosa subway station.
Learn the different districts of Sampa and the name and location of the metro stations or big destination and you'll be able to orient yourself.
As usual, avoid busses at rush hours. Read some of posts because I refer to the problem of going out of Moema at rush hours.
[QUOTE=Voyajer1]If you use the bus system, I want you to explain it to me. I've been going there for years and I don't get it. Plus, you get stuck with the traffic during peak hours. But if you want the information, here is the link. Good luck!!!
[url]http://www.emtu.sp.gov.br/[/url][/QUOTE]Ha ha thanks, I definitely wont hop on some strange bus. If I can get some help while I am there from friends I will do it.
I am thinking about staying in these flats when in Sao Paulo. Let me know if you think these are nice areas. Or acceptable areas
R Major Diogo 39
R Santo Amaro 383
I see on that site they have buses from Guarulhos Airport to metro tatuape stop for 3.80 real and buses from guar to hotels on augusta and paulista for 31.00 real
[QUOTE=Manute Bol]I am thinking about staying in these flats when in Sao Paulo. Let me know if you think these are nice areas. Or acceptable areas
R Major Diogo 39
R Santo Amaro 383[/QUOTE]
Manute Bol
It's a question of taste but I think that the flat on Santo Amaro 383 would be a far better spot than the one on Major Diogo 39.
Santo Amaro 383 is located in Itaim Bibi which is a safer district than República. From Santo Amaro it's quite easy to take a bus and go to any destination in the city. Moreover, there's a lot of nightlife activities (non-pro) going on in Itaim Bibi. In Itaim Bibi you're not far from good massage parlors that are good and they worth the visit.
República is a district with a kind of bad reputation.
On the other hand, in República - on the Rua Major Diogo - you're a lot closer to the centro, Rua Augusta and different sex venues. The street is also more quiet.
But I'll repeat myself: it comes down to a question of taste.
[QUOTE=Sui Generis]Manute Bol
It's a question of taste but I think that the flat on Santo Amaro 383 would be a far better spot than the one on Major Diogo 39.
Santo Amaro 383 is located in Itaim Bibi which is a safer district than República. From Santo Amaro it's quite easy to take a bus and go to any destination in the city. Moreover, there's a lot of nightlife activities (non-pro) going on in Itaim Bibi. In Itaim Bibi you're not far from good massage parlors that are good and they worth the visit.
República is a district with a kind of bad reputation.
On the other hand, in República - on the Rua Major Diogo - you're a lot closer to the centro, Rua Augusta and different sex venues. The street is also more quiet.
But I'll repeat myself: it comes down to a question of taste.[/QUOTE]Do you have any other suggestions for flats?
Also where the favales in the centro area to avoid?
Thanks for the advice
[QUOTE=Manute Bol]Do you have any other suggestions for flats?
Also where the favales in the centro area to avoid?
Thanks for the advice[/QUOTE]
There's no favelas per se in centro. Most of them are located at the outskirts of the city. There's one with bad reputation just next to one of the nicest and richest district of São Paulo:
Here's a link to a Web page with a short video showing a view of Morumbi's favela
[url]http://imageevent.com/jennifersantiago/insideasaopaulofavela[/url]
The problem with Centro is that there's a lot of homeless people and some of them are targetting easy prey when they want to earn quick and easy money.
There are always pocket of poverty where there are cortiços (very low income housings)
There are some good flats to rent near Avenida Paulista and Consoilação
[QUOTE=Sui Generis]There's no favelas per se in centro. Most of them are located at the outskirts of the city. There's one with bad reputation just next to one of the nicest and richest district of São Paulo:
Here's a link to a Web page with a short video showing a view of Morumbi's favela
[url]http://imageevent.com/jennifersantiago/insideasaopaulofavela[/url]
The problem with Centro is that there's a lot of homeless people and some of them are targetting easy prey when they want to earn quick and easy money.
There are always pocket of poverty where there are cortiços (very low income housings)
There are some good flats to rent near Avenida Paulista and Consoilação[/QUOTE]When you say problem with homeless people does that include all streets in that area. I would like to get a idea from sao paulo traveler as yourself. I mean even around the santo amore rua area is all-out dangerous?
I mean I saw that map where crackolandia has over 25 blocks outlined. Thats a huge area just for crack users. What other blocks in the day time should i avoid.
[QUOTE=Manute Bol]When you say problem with homeless people does that include all streets in that area. I would like to get a idea from sao paulo traveler as yourself. I mean even around the santo amore rua area is all-out dangerous? [/QUOTE]
I've walked 100 times from N.Pestena strip bars to Love Story - i.e. a ten minutes walk - at 2am without ever never having a problem.
As for your question about av Santo Amaro, you absolutely don't have to worry. Itaim Bibi is - almost - as safe as Monaco.
The fact is that Sao Paulo is NOT Rio. Apart from some definite places in Centro like crackolandia (and apart from periferias), it's a pretty safe place. By brasilian standarts.
Hi,
I have searched around the net, including on here. I have gotten some answers, but still I have a few questions about where to stay in SP. We are travelling two people, or maybe just me. We/I prefer freebies, but have mongering as a backup/adding to this. We want to experience the city as tourists, and also meet local women. We are about 30 yo from Denmark. We prefer renting an apartment, for practical reasons. So basically. Where should we stay, and where should we book an apartment (yes, I have already searched a bit on the net). We want.
- fast and cheap access to Love Story (for picking up locals).
- an area with good nightlife, where we can meet local girls, and have fun.
- preferably close to the metro, to easily travel around at daytime.
- we prefer basic and budget accomodation, as long as it's ok.
I know that Love Story is in Centro. So close to that sounds good. Vila Madalena has a metro, and may be a good spot. Is that a long taxiride to Love Story? Any tips on good companies that rent out apartments?
[QUOTE=Prosal]I've walked 100 times from N.Pestena strip bars to Love Story - i.e. a ten minutes walk - at 2am without ever never having a problem.
As for your question about av Santo Amaro, you absolutely don't have to worry. Itaim Bibi is - almost - as safe as Monaco.
The fact is that Sao Paulo is NOT Rio. Apart from some definite places in Centro like crackolandia (and apart from periferias), it's a pretty safe place. By brasilian standarts.[/QUOTE]I second this
I have been around at 3am in some areas, taking a cab, never been ripped off, always feeling secure.
The advantage is that with a nice night life and corner bars open till late (or early in the day), there are sufficient watching dog to prevent spot crime.
SP has still some degree of danger even daytime: do not drive your car with a nice watch on the arm leaning outside the car window, set the door lock on your car while driving, be a bit attentive on some motorcycle guys who might have some bad idea to stop you and rob you
I feel safe in SP than in Miami, for sureAs any metropolis these towns have some bad areas. Just avoid them.
[QUOTE=Scandic]Hi,
I have searched around the net, including on here. I have gotten some answers, but still I have a few questions about where to stay in SP. We are travelling two people, or maybe just me. We/I prefer freebies, but have mongering as a backup/adding to this. We want to experience the city as tourists, and also meet local women. We are about 30 yo from Denmark. We prefer renting an apartment, for practical reasons. So basically. Where should we stay, and where should we book an apartment (yes, I have already searched a bit on the net). We want.
- fast and cheap access to Love Story (for picking up locals).
- an area with good nightlife, where we can meet local girls, and have fun.
- preferably close to the metro, to easily travel around at daytime.
- we prefer basic and budget accomodation, as long as it's ok.
I know that Love Story is in Centro. So close to that sounds good. Vila Madalena has a metro, and may be a good spot. Is that a long taxiride to Love Story? Any tips on good companies that rent out apartments?[/QUOTE]Apts Sao Paulo
[url]www.aluguetemporada.com.br[/url]
[QUOTE=Scandic]
- fast and cheap access to Love Story (for picking up locals).
- an area with good nightlife, where we can meet local girls, and have fun.
- preferably close to the metro, to easily travel around at daytime.[/QUOTE]
"Baixo Augusta" (the area that stretches along Rua Augusta and the two parallels that flank it, Rua Bela Cintra and Rua Frei Caneca) suit all those requests.
It's a friendly and "in" neo-bohemian neighborhood, and location can't be beat, at walking distance to Jardins, really close to Centro and not far to Pinheiros.
Any listing on where sao paulo football clubs play in the surronding centro area? I would like to catch a game if possible. I also would like to check out the sao paulo pro basketball league if its still going on when I am there.
Bom Dia Sui.
I think they "bull dozed" the favela in Morumbi.
More high rises coming
[QUOTE=Sui Generis]There's no favelas per se in centro. Most of them are located at the outskirts of the city. There's one with bad reputation just next to one of the nicest and richest district of São Paulo:
Here's a link to a Web page with a short video showing a view of Morumbi's favela
[url]http://imageevent.com/jennifersantiago/insideasaopaulofavela[/url]
The problem with Centro is that there's a lot of homeless people and some of them are targetting easy prey when they want to earn quick and easy money.
There are always pocket of poverty where there are cortiços (very low income housings)
There are some good flats to rent near Avenida Paulista and Consoilação[/QUOTE]
Sui. Any updated info on a young morena you mentioned: Nicole Fernandes? Her listing is not on CM and I have a soft spot for morenas who are GFE.
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Chan Nimal]Sui. Any updated info on a young morena you mentioned: Nicole Fernandes? Her listing is not on CM and I have a soft spot for morenas who are GFE.
Thanks![/QUOTE]
Is seems that she's out of buiseness since a month at least.
Check your PM, I've send you her phone number but hobbyists in Brazil have problems to get in touch with her.
The las time I've heard from her she was still living near Ibirapuera shopping Center.
[QUOTE=Chan Nimal]Bom Dia Sui.
I think they "bull dozed" the favela in Morumbi.
More high rises coming[/QUOTE]
Thanks a lot Chan Nimal, I was not aware of that.
This blog gives credit to your info
[url]http://www.hattuchili.com/2007/10/27/favelas_in_sao_paulo~3203923/[/url]
Any update on samba clubs in SP?
thanks
Anybody in with the management there?
I got my credit card and cell phone stolen by a con artist girl there.
I want to make sure she doesn't work there again so she doesn't do it to anybody else.
[QUOTE=Manute Bol]Any update on samba clubs in SP?[/QUOTE]
[url]http://vejasp.abril.com.br/bares[/url]
BTW, it seems that most of your posts here are only questions, that furthermore could VERY easily find answers just by googling or buying a LP guide.
Maybe you should restrain posting until you ACTUALLY go to Sao Paulo and can then report something of added value. If that ever happens.
[QUOTE=Prosal][url]http://vejasp.abril.com.br/bares[/url]
BTW, it seems that most of your posts here are only questions, that furthermore could VERY easily find answers just by googling or buying a LP guide.
Maybe you should restrain posting until you ACTUALLY go to Sao Paulo and can then report something of added value. If that ever happens.[/QUOTE]Then dont answer then ok? I dontneed your bad attitude and disrespectful comments plus a lecture. I was just looking for an update if there was anything new. Thats what this board is for since you own right?
Maybe you have a personal problem. Also you dont own this board so dont tell what I can do and not do ok?
There is not enough info about to begin with about sp and there should be a 2 or more sections for info.
[QUOTE=Hobbying]Anybody in with the management there?
I got my credit card and cell phone stolen by a con artist girl there.
I want to make sure she doesn't work there again so she doesn't do it to anybody else.[/QUOTE]
Just go there and ask to talk to the management. Tell them what happended. They are professional. How as new Cafe Photo compared to the old one?
GK
[QUOTE=Manute Bol]Then dont answer then ok? I dontneed your bad attitude and disrespectful comments plus a lecture. I was just looking for an update if there was anything new. Thats what this board is for since you own right?
Maybe you have a personal problem. Also you dont own this board so dont tell what I can do and not do ok?
There is not enough info about to begin with about sp and there should be a 2 or more sections for info.[/QUOTE]looks the attitude is a bit more yours.
You can get an update for anything new just by RTFF... the board is for posting and reading
You'll get all your answers here, by RTFF
[QUOTE=Genghis Khan]Just go there and ask to talk to the management. Tell them what happended. They are professional. How as new Cafe Photo compared to the old one?
GK[/QUOTE]I'm not in Brasil now.
I can call them but I don't know how seriously they will take it.
The new place is huge, much bigger than the old place.
[QUOTE=Sandro80]The Best site for Escort in Sao paulo and in Brazil - [url]http://www.escortgirl.com.br[/url]
Enter in check out the best models for country
[url]http://www.escortgirl.com.br[/url][/QUOTE]
Shitty website. Trying to sell you information that you get elsewhere for free. Pictures in Flash just to make sure that people can't save them.
[QUOTE=Bionicman]looks the attitude is a bit more yours.
You can get an update for anything new just by RTFF... the board is for posting and reading
You'll get all your answers here, by RTFF[/QUOTE]
Hey, let´s keep the bickering on the Rio forum!
The Sao Paulo forum is usually pretty tranquilo :)
[QUOTE=Bionicman]Looks the attitude is a bit more yours.
You can get an update for anything new just by RTFF... the board is for posting and reading.
You'll get all your answers here, by RTFF[/QUOTE]I know you want to defend your friend but your just being biased and dont make any sense. How are you gonna tell me what this board is for? So what your saying is that this board is not for information right? There was no purpose for you to make this post.
[QUOTE=Manute Bol] How are you gonna tell me what this board is for?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Manute Bol]Where can I see a detailed map of the Sao metro?
Samba clubs in SP?
Where sao paulo football clubs play?
How is the bus system in Sao Paulo?
A question for you guys flying to brazil. How long does it take for your body to adjust to Brazil's atmosphere?
Ect, ect[/QUOTE]MB, listen, go buy a LP guide or learn to use google, Jesus Fucking Christ!
This board is certainly not made to ask ridiculous questions - 90% of your posts - like your request on the metro map, for which a single google search gives 470 000 anwers!
And instead of arguing and pontificating about what ISG is for, you'd better first participate to the costs and pay the $19,95/year contribution to be a senior member!
And ACTUALLY travel (if this ever happens). Or get a life!
[QUOTE=Prosal]MB, listen, fool, go buy a LP guide or learn to use google, Jesus Fucking Christ!
This board is certainly not made to ask ridiculous questions - 90% of your posts - like your request on the metro map, for which a single google search gives 470 000 anwers!
And instead of arguing and pontificating about what ISG is for, you'd better first participate to the costs of the board and pay the $19,95/year to be a senior member, you clown!
And ACTUALLY travel (if this ever happens). Or get a life![/QUOTE]Your a trouble maker and your doing it for no reason. Whats wrong with having information for everyone to see? There are is not enough information about sao paulo to begin with and anything adds to this thread.
For some unknown reason how have self appointed yourself KING of this board.
stop being a crybaby whiner I didnt do anything wrong by asking for information and I dont need you to tell me to go to google. I tell you what you go to google and type in respect because you dont know what the word means.
Any chance we can get back to the actual intent of this forum?
[QUOTE=Tommy America]Any chance we can get back to the actual intent of this forum?[/QUOTE]yeah..when somebody has read the 660 posts and 44 pages of this year... Now it is kindergarten time :)
Hey guys,
Whats up with this RTFF attitude? You are behaving like uneducated teenagers. If you think a question or a post uninteresting, just ignore it and leave the moderation to the moderators.
It is this kind of unfriendly and non-including attitude which has made it unattractive to spend time writing reports from my last trips. It is not worth it.
GK
[QUOTE=Genghis Khan]Hey guys,
Whats up with this RTFF attitude? You are behaving like uneducated teenagers. If you think a question or a post uninteresting, just ignore it and leave the moderation to the moderators.[/QUOTE]
Where can I see a map of Sao Paulo ?
Yes I do get the point. To questions like that you either post a link to a map or you ignore the question. No need to behave like a moderator when you are not.
GK
[QUOTE=Genghis Khan]To questions like that you either post a link to a map or you ignore the question
No need to behave like a moderator when you are not.[/QUOTE]
I see. But now you are yourself, with this injunction, erecting rules and behaving like a moderator/mollah.
[QUOTE=Prosal]Where can I see a map of Sao Paulo ?[/QUOTE]See that now why dont you do this board a service and delete your negative bad vibe responses. The fact that gengis khan who has provided great stuff on sao paulo over the years wont post his reports proves your mean spirited responses are not needed. I dont need you tell me about google and thats shows what kind of vindictive person you are that you would actually spend your time telling about a search engine instead of giving information. How do you know google has the information I am looking for. Not every last spot is on search engines. Sometimes there are underground spots.
Your not gonna push me around on this thread as if you claimed some sort of real estate. Like I said delete your responses because they are a disgrace.
If you don't see the differance between my reaction to your tone of voice which clearly keeps contributors away and creates a hostile environment and your arrogance to a simple question from someone seeking information on SP (which this forum clearly is all about), then I almost feel sorry for you.
GK
[QUOTE=Genghis Khan]a simple question from someone seeking information on SP (which this forum clearly is all about), then I almost feel sorry for you.
GK[/QUOTE]may I make one more point (and then I cut this or we really get boring) as I am one having reacted.
The forum is about information. 100% correct.
But it is not an info booth or a Q&A or a FAQ location.
As I said, just in 2010, there are 44 pages and nearly 700 posts (some useless, I know, just a bit of chit-chat), but also keep the forum alive)
I think there is sufficient material to pick up nearly any information one is looking for.
I reckon it is better to spend time in providing the infos one is aware of and on regular basis, rather than spending it in "opening and attending an info booth" to serve incoming questions.
If somebody spent the time to fill in report, don't you think that somebody else (the inquirer) can spend his time in RTFF? Especially when he comes out with very generic question?
It is nothing special here.
RTFF is an official abbreviation here
It does not come out of the blue and not for nothing....!
this is my last point on this issue..:)
Prosal,
Yes, I do get that point but it is not your decision nor your place to comment on what is of value and allowed on the forum and what is not.
Bionicman,
You are just putting your individual opinion forward. It is however not for you to decide.
There is very little activity on mongering on the SP forum anyway. Almost all the regular contributors with well written and informative information are gone. Why fight over someone asking simple questions when hardly anyone (except Sui Generis) has something valuable to share anyway.
...and are reactions like RTFF something which might make this forum better with more valuable posts? I think it creates an environment where you think more than twice before you share instead of being a forum where you are eager to share with similar interested people.
GK
One of my very favorite Mineiras (whom I actually met in HELP) told me last week that she is going to go to SP for "work". She is a student at UFMG and has been working at HELP on and off for a few years now on long weekends and holidays. She does not work the clubs in BH because it's her home town but has no problem plying her second trade (and primary source of income) in Rio.
But alas, with HELP closing down, she says that it's nearly impossible for her to make a go of coming to Rio to earn money as a GDP. She's a real stunner (IMHO) but can't make the commitment to work at a place like Barbarella's so she's has tried Balcony as a back up and it's just getting to be too competitive. She says that the environment is too combative as well. At least at HELP, there was enough space that all the girls could spread out and not be standing on top of each other the way it seems to be now at Balcony.
So, as I said earlier, since Rio is no longer to her liking, she is going to try working in SP and joining the scene there. My question is this - where does a newcomer to the SP business have the best chance of getting "traction"? I have only mongered in SP a couple of times and have visited only Romanza (disaster) and Cafe Foto. Anyone have any suggestions where my favorite little part time GDP can go an practice the world's oldest profession? She's a very classy, buffed, 24 year old with perhaps the best boob job I have ever seen. Cleans up real nice and is almost the kind of girl you could bring home to mama (no, not really). I told her to check out the "employment opportunities" at CF, Cafe Gaugin, and Kilt but now being a regular in SP I am afraid that my advice to her is a bit limited.
Thanks, in advance, to anyone who can offer constructive suggestions to the plight of our little amiga. I am sure there are plenty of them who are looking for a new place to work.
BTW - I have "read the fucking forum" ;) but it's hard to get a real feel for what some these places are really like if you have not been there.
Cheers,
Jake
[QUOTE=Prosal]Where can I see a map of Sao Paulo ?[/QUOTE]
Either GOOGLE it or RTFF :)
[QUOTE=Ricker]Either GOOGLE it or RTFF :)[/QUOTE]
I don't like the tone of your answer. Cool down. You are not a moderator here. My question was totally legitimate, didn't deserved this kind of unfriendly and arrogant attitude that creates a hostile environment and is only a huge turn-off.
:D:p;)
[QUOTE=Prosal]I don't like the tone of your answer. Cool down. You are not a moderator here. My question was totally legitimate, and didn't deserved this kind of unfriendly and arrogant attitude that creates a hostile environment and is only a huge turn-off.
:D:p;)[/QUOTE]
Man I have to admit, this reply had me laughing ... LMAO actually.
Good way to add some humor and end the blah blah bickering ... rsrsrsrs. :)
Guys I have to say, maybe the SP reports have been lacking a bit lately, except senhor Sangue Bon of course.
I'm on my way back tomorrow to SP, fresh from almost 2 weeks in Medellin, Colombia and I'll make a nice comparison.
Before my Colombia trip, I met maybe the most beautiful garota I'd been with in Brasil, in Casarao on Augusta. Nope you don't need to pay top dollar for top quality.
Paid 120 R total including the room and will call her when I get to SP for some hotel fun. Hopefully fotos vem.
In Colombia, I met the most beautiful chica in a low-end casa. I was stunned really. Once again showing what you can find without spending muito.
Ate logo ...
[QUOTE=Ricker]Man I have to admit, this reply had me laughing ... LMAO actually.
Good way to add some humor and end the blah blah bickering ... rsrsrsrs. :)
Guys I have to say, maybe the SP reports have been lacking a bit lately, except senhor Sangue Bon of course.
I'm on my way back tomorrow to SP, fresh from almost 2 weeks in Medellin, Colombia and I'll make a nice comparison.
Before my Colombia trip, I met maybe the most beautiful garota I'd been with in Brasil, in Casarao on Augusta. Nope you don't need to pay top dollar for top quality.
Paid 120 R total including the room and will call her when I get to SP for some hotel fun. Hopefully fotos vem.
In Colombia, I met the most beautiful chica in a low-end casa. I was stunned really. Once again showing what you can find without spending muito.
Ate logo ...[/QUOTE]There is no bickering its just 1 trouble maker with a bad attitude who needs an adjustment.
I just dont understand why idiots likes amatuerposal and bionicwoman dont just put someone on ignore or just go to make their own threads. Why take time out of your busy day to try and correct someone and be anal retenative about how people post on here. It truly amazes that these guys have so much time to go on and on about absolutely nothing.
For those of you that spek some spanish there's a cool forum about Sao Paulo:
[url]http://foro.forosx.com/brasil-sao-paulo-sp-t16906.html[/url]
Enjoy.
[QUOTE=Manute Bol]I just dont understand why idiots likes amatuerposal and bionicwoman dont just put someone on ignore or just go to make their own threads. Why take time out of your busy day to try and correct someone and be anal retenative about how people post on here. It truly amazes that these guys have so much time to go on and on about absolutely nothing.[/QUOTE]
Amigo, you take this stuff way too serious.
I've been on this ISG for years, of course I've been blasted at times by guys.
I either ignore or use a little humor to make lght of it.
All types of dudes on this site, not everyone's going to think or act the same.
Big deal, move on, have fun.
That's all that really matters.
Take care ... :)
This link appears to be dead, at least to me.
[QUOTE=Jota Erre]For those of you that spek some spanish there's a cool forum about Sao Paulo:
[url]http://foro.forosx.com/brasil-sao-paulo-sp-t16906.html[/url]
Enjoy.[/QUOTE]
Albert Punter,
It works for me.
[QUOTE=Albert Punter]This link appears to be dead, at least to me.[/QUOTE]I checked it out and it works fine now. Maybe it was a temporary failure.
[url]http://foro.forosx.com/brasil-sao-paulo-sp-t16906.html[/url]
Also there's another cool one about Bahia, Brazil:
[url]http://foro.forosx.com/brasil-bahia-con-h-t16677.html[/url]
Cheers.
[QUOTE=Sui Generis]Beside the heavy rain that is falling over São Paulo (this year was probably the worst year of all time) I'd like to report another sad news:
Since the beginning of December (more exactly Saturday 12th 2009) Clinica Kin is closed.
They're planning to reopen the joint in January.[/QUOTE]
Can anyone confirm if Clinica Kin has reopened, could not find any reports since the December announcement, I went there in January and it was still closed. Thanks.
Another link to a Brazil spanish forum. Some reports from Rio de Janeiro, Salvador de Bahia, Natal.
Link to the Brazil forum:
[url]http://foro.putalocura.com/foro/turismo-sexual/28896-brasil-ver-creer-ir-sonar.html[/url]
Link to reports (Brazil and another countries):
[url]http://foro.putalocura.com/foro/turismo-sexual/92896-experiencias-around-world-normas-el-1-post.html[/url]
Link to genereal sex tourism forum: (check especially Thailand, Philippines, Colombia, Cuba ...)
[url]http://foro.putalocura.com/foro/putas/turismo-sexual/[/url]
Regards.
[QUOTE=Mahal]Can anyone confirm if Clinica Kin has reopened, could not find any reports since the December announcement, I went there in January and it was still closed. Thanks.[/QUOTE]
Hi Mahal,
Kin is in activity since a long time. I think they reopened the first week of Janurary (January 4th I guess).
[QUOTE=Sui Generis]Hi Mahal,
Kin is in activity since a long time. I think they reopened the first week of Janurary (January 4th I guess).[/QUOTE]
Thanks SG, much appreciated. I was not sure because their website is down and I did not see any reports. I will make sure to post one when I get back.
I usually stay at the Ca'D'Oro, which offers a huge suite at a reasonable price, in central Sao Paulo, but I think they might be closed for renovations. I stayed at the Mecure in Jardims and hated it -- small room and paper thin walls... anybody have any recommendations? Thanks.
[QUOTE=Mahal]Thanks SG, much appreciated. I was not sure because their website is down and I did not see any reports. I will make sure to post one when I get back.[/QUOTE]
You're right their site is under manutention. Didn't go there by myself since a long time because now I prefer Espaço Morumbi.
[QUOTE=Davis150]I usually stay at the Ca'D'Oro, which offers a huge suite at a reasonable price, in central Sao Paulo, but I think they might be closed for renovations. I stayed at the Mecure in Jardims and hated it -- small room and paper thin walls... anybody have any recommendations? Thanks.[/QUOTE]
Davis150
Hotel Renaissance, in Jardim, is quite fine.
[url]http://hoteis.marriott.com.br/hotels/travel/saobr-renaissance-sao-paulo-hotel/[/url]
I stayed there, it was very good.
Not sure about GF and the how you get a girl to your room.
Comment, SG?
[QUOTE=Sui Generis]Davis150
Hotel Renaissance, in Jardim, is quite fine.
[url]http://hoteis.marriott.com.br/hotels/travel/saobr-renaissance-sao-paulo-hotel/[/url][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=D Cups]Has anyone seen any big tits in San Paulo? Do share, please ... :)[/QUOTE]
If you're a fan of large beautiful tits I recommend Luana.
Absolute amazing natural tits!
The place is sleazy and trashy, but it's worth a visit just because of playing with Luanas melons. R$ 20 for a session.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=996500&postcount=584[/url]
[QUOTE=Bearsk]I stayed there, it was very good.
Not sure about GF and the how you get a girl to your room.
Comment, SG?[/QUOTE]
Habitually I meet the girl at the front door and she comes with me without registering. The last time I was there was 5 years ago. I guess you can still do it that way.
[QUOTE=Sui Generis]Habitually I meet the girl at the front door and she comes with me without registering. The last time I was there was 5 years ago. I guess you can still do it that way.[/QUOTE]
A megapole - and P4P heaven - like Sao Paulo deserves its own "Hotels & Apartments" ISG thread in my opinion.
With a sticky big bold headline [B] "ALL HOTELS IN SAO PAULO ARE GIRL FRIENDLY"[/B], so that the question is definitively resolved!
[QUOTE][B] "ALL HOTELS IN SAO PAULO ARE GIRL FRIENDLY"[/B], so that the question is definitively resolved![/QUOTE]
I sincerely doubt this is true. Also, it may depend on your definition of "girl friendliness" is. If requiring a large fee means non-girl-friendly, then this statement is definitely false.
[QUOTE=Davis150]I usually stay at the Ca'D'Oro, which offers a huge suite at a reasonable price, in central Sao Paulo, but I think they might be closed for renovations. I stayed at the Mecure in Jardims and hated it -- small room and paper thin walls... anybody have any recommendations? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Try Ibis hotels. Av. Paulista location is great and R$160 per night.
[QUOTE=Prosal]A megapole - and P4P heaven - like Sao Paulo deserves its own "Hotels & Apartments" ISG thread in my opinion.
With a sticky big bold headline [B] "ALL HOTELS IN SAO PAULO ARE GIRL FRIENDLY"[/B], so that the question is definitively resolved![/QUOTE]Again making posts like this as if your superior to others and trying to be the DON of this board. No one is that ABOVE everyone else where they should make posts like this. Just mean spirited responses that chase people away from writing trip reports and giving other info. I guess your happy since you think you bought a percentage of this board with your contribution.
[QUOTE=Smokers Rule]I sincerely doubt this is true. Also, it may depend on your definition of "girl friendliness" is. If requiring a large fee means non-girl-friendly, then this statement is definitely false.[/QUOTE]
Saw your post about Maksoud, when you've been swindled by the hotel's night shift ... sorry for you. This is undeniably not a pleasant experience. I stayed there once and brought back meninas from Love Story two nights in a row without any problems. This was, admittedly, a few years ago, so things could have changed.
Anyhow,if you can name a hotel in SP where girls are NOT allowed even with a fee (which is the usual meaning of "girl nonfriendliness"), I'll officially apologize for the misinformation.
[QUOTE=Bearsk]I stayed there, it was very good.
Not sure about GF and the how you get a girl to your room.
Comment, SG?[/QUOTE]
There is security by the elevators and they will ask you to register your guest and she has to present her ID at the reception which is photocopied by them. If you meet your guest by the front door there a 50-50 chance security will let her go up with you without asking for her credentials.
I was not swindled by the night shift. I had a girl visit me late at night from an escort service, and I had to pay the fee. I did not argue. That's how it goes at some hotels.
What I'm saying is that a blanket statement that "All hotels in SP are girl-friendly" is not really true, at least in my view, because of experiences like mine.
There are different levels of girl-friendliness. For example, some hotels allow you to have more than one girl. Some only permit one. Some charge for girls, some don't. Some don't allow girls at all. In Cuba, they don't allow girls at all, but you can always bribe security. In some hotels, you can sneak girls in or simply have them accompany you with no hassle. In others, this is not possible. What I am saying is that there is a continuum of girl-friendliness, and Sao Paulo does not fall at either end of it.
[QUOTE=Prosal]Saw your post about Maksoud, when you've been swindled by the hotel's night shift ... sorry for you. This is undeniably not a pleasant experience. I stayed there once and brought back meninas from Love Story two nights in a row without any problems. This was, admittedly, a few years ago, so things could have changed.
Anyhow,if you can name a hotel in SP where girls are NOT allowed even with a fee (which is the usual meaning of "girl nonfriendliness"), I'll officially apologize for the misinformation.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Smokers Rule]There are different levels of girl-friendliness. For example, some hotels allow you to have more than one girl. Some only permit one. Some charge for girls, some don't. Some don't allow girls at all. In Cuba, they don't allow girls at all, but you can always bribe security. In some hotels, you can sneak girls in or simply have them accompany you with no hassle. In others, this is not possible. What I am saying is that there is a continuum of girl-friendliness[/QUOTE]
You're quibbling.
:rolleyes:
Sorry guys, didn't mean to start a quibble. I believe Mecure charged me a guest fee and that added up big time. Anybody with a recent trip who can report? Ibis' rooms look a bit small, but that's a hell of a price. I don't mind guests having to check in, but would prefer to avoid a fee, and prefer a suite with a couple of rooms. Appreciate the help and suggestions so far.
[QUOTE=Prosal]Saw your post about Maksoud, when you've been swindled by the hotel's night shift ... sorry for you. This is undeniably not a pleasant experience. I stayed there once and brought back meninas from Love Story two nights in a row without any problems. This was, admittedly, a few years ago, so things could have changed.
Anyhow,if you can name a hotel in SP where girls are NOT allowed even with a fee (which is the usual meaning of "girl nonfriendliness"), I'll officially apologize for the misinformation.[/QUOTE]
To me GF around the globe means no joiner fee or extra charge at all. An ID check is good but is part of the service. To me any fee at all is tending towards non-GF.
[QUOTE=Davis150]Sorry guys, didn't mean to start a quibble. I believe Mecure charged me a guest fee and that added up big time. Anybody with a recent trip who can report? Ibis' rooms look a bit small, but that's a hell of a price. I don't mind guests having to check in, but would prefer to avoid a fee, and prefer a suite with a couple of rooms. Appreciate the help and suggestions so far.[/QUOTE]
Try any hotel under this banner. They don't mind if you have a guest in your room
[url]http://www.travelinn.com.br/redehoteis.asp[/url]
[QUOTE=Davis150]Sorry guys, didn't mean to start a quibble. I believe Mecure charged me a guest fee and that added up big time. Anybody with a recent trip who can report? Ibis' rooms look a bit small, but that's a hell of a price. I don't mind guests having to check in, but would prefer to avoid a fee, and prefer a suite with a couple of rooms. Appreciate the help and suggestions so far.[/QUOTE]Yes rooms are small, but mice for short stays. Can't beat the location. Ask where the 24 hour corner bakery is. Great food. The soup buffet is off the hook.
Driving in Sao Paulo.
I thought this was interesting how someone filmed driving from Morumbi to the airport.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksOgimAhLAA&playnext_from=TL&videos=IydfcIVgCO8[/url]
[QUOTE=Prosal]You're quibbling.
:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
Not at all. This is a serious distinction. A SP newbie needs to investigate about whether/how much/how often his hotel charges a fee. I made my post in an attempt to alert people to this fact.
This is not anything personal against you, by the way. I know what you mean and agree. If you come back with a girl in SP, you are very likely to have no problems. You may, in some cases and under some circumstances, have to pay a fee. That's all.
[QUOTE=Smokers Rule]Not at all. This is a serious distinction. A SP newbie needs to investigate about whether/how much/how often his hotel charges a fee. I made my post in an attempt to alert people to this fact.
This is not anything personal against you, by the way. I know what you mean and agree. If you come back with a girl in SP, you are very likely to have no problems. You may, in some cases and under some circumstances, have to pay a fee. That's all.[/QUOTE]
I agree with that. And it's one of the bigger differences between Rio de Janeiro and Sao Paulo.
In Rio, you better check with the hotel, because in most cases you're not allowed to bring a lady friend to your room.
In Sao Paulo instead, at most, you'd have to pay a small fee.
Big difference.
[QUOTE=Safado Lover]Another link to a Brazil spanish forum. Some reports from Rio de Janeiro, Salvador de Bahia, Natal. [/QUOTE]
Long time, no see... Gato Safado.
Hey... it's a small world after all. ..........Innit?
Give my best regards to Mala Vida.
All the best.
Bondy
[QUOTE=Prosal]Where can I see a map of Sao Paulo ?[/QUOTE]
here: [url]http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Sao+Paulo+-+S%C3%A3o+Paulo,+Brazil&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=60.246331,74.443359&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=S%C3%A3o+Paulo,+Brazil&ll=-23.548881,-46.638336&spn=0.069241,0.072699&z=14[/url]
[QUOTE=Prosal]Where can I see a map of Sao Paulo ?[/QUOTE]
[url]http://maps.google.com/?q=http://bitchmaps.com/kmz/sp.kmz[/url]
Another map.
Another way of seeing Sao Paulo.
This one from the International Sex Address & Waypoint DataBase.
[url]http://www.isaw-db.com/map_sap.html[/url]
Interesting to see the discussion about girlfriendly hotels in SP, as I was wondering about it. My plan A is to session with non-pros, like from Love Story or other places (like everywhere), but also hit a stripclub or two. And if the non-pro plan fails (which I doubt), I will consider brothels too.
I was thinking about hotels Plaza or Joamar in Centro, but maybe the location is a little bad. Well, a little bad location probably make them very girlfriendly, or not? I am also considering apt, but then it's better to stay more people. I am also thinking about hostels, as they are generally more social, give very good tourist advices, and are cheaper (I'm early 30s BTW). But then I will definately have to bring any girl to (love) motels.
So then. How long are they usually rented for? And what are the prices for those? I'm not looking for luxury, but basic, ok and clean. Are they like. Everywhere in town? Well, I guess my one night stand would know it anyway. BTW, I have searched a bit too, but haven't found any good answers.
Thanks in advance.
I will be next week in Sp and i would like to know if the new cafe Photo is open because during my last visit in March it was closed.
[QUOTE=Joe47]I will be next week in Sp and i would like to know if the new cafe Photo is open because during my last visit in March it was closed.[/QUOTE]
Joe47,
Cafe Photo is still open and it works as usual.
The only difference now is that instead of an entrance fee of 190R$ (including 4 drinks) it's now 150R$ (including nothing).
Good option is Lido ([url]http://www.hotellidoplaza.com.br/inicio.html[/url]).
It is known by all working girl and is very central and close to a subway station.
[QUOTE=Scandic]Interesting to see the discussion about girlfriendly hotels in SP, as I was wondering about it. My plan A is to session with non-pros, like from Love Story or other places (like everywhere), but also hit a stripclub or two. And if the non-pro plan fails (which I doubt), I will consider brothels too.
I was thinking about hotels Plaza or Joamar in Centro, but maybe the location is a little bad. Well, a little bad location probably make them very girlfriendly, or not? I am also considering apt, but then it's better to stay more people. I am also thinking about hostels, as they are generally more social, give very good tourist advices, and are cheaper (I'm early 30s BTW). But then I will definately have to bring any girl to (love) motels.
So then. How long are they usually rented for? And what are the prices for those? I'm not looking for luxury, but basic, ok and clean. Are they like. Everywhere in town? Well, I guess my one night stand would know it anyway. BTW, I have searched a bit too, but haven't found any good answers.
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]
So first visit to Sao Paulo and I'm stuck out in the middle of nowhere. Any recommendations for anything close by (walking distance would be nice. But I know I'm dreaming. Also, anyone ever stayed at this hotel?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Gtrock123]So first visit to Sao Paulo and I'm stuck out in the middle of nowhere. Any recommendations for anything close by (walking distance would be nice. But I know I'm dreaming. Also, anyone ever stayed at this hotel?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
You're located in the Vila Olimpia district. A very good spot for restaurants and night life (non pros).
You're not far from Cafe Photo. You can walk the distance.
[url]http://www.cafephoto.com.br/[/url]
(Expect to pay around 1,000.00R$ for your night)
There are several massage parlors in that area.
The best choice would be: Clinica the Palms
146 Rua Gomes de Carvalho - Vila Olimpia
Phone: (11) 3044-0366 / 3849-5119
Site: [url]http://www.thepalms.com.br[/url]
Schedule
From Monday to Friday :11:00h to 23:00h
Saturday: 11:00h to 21:30h
Prices
R$ 190,00 for the house
R$ 200 to 250,00 to deal with the garota
There's also a privé in Moema that is quite close. The prive is located on rua Eucaliptos. It's open all night long (till six am, if I'm not mistaken). If you're lucky you can find gems there.
657 Avenida dos Eucaliptos (between Santo Amaro and Ibirapuera). Coming from Itaim Bibi or Vila Olimpia you cannot miss it, there's a big bus stop (parada) on the corner of Santo Amaro and Eucaliptos
Phone: (11) 5041-4658
No Website
Open daily from 13:00h to 06:00h
Prices:
R$ 60,00 for 30 min
R$ 120,00 for 1 hour
[QUOTE=Sui Generis]You're located in the Vila Olimpia district. A very good spot for restaurants and night life (non pros).
You're not far from Cafe Photo. You can walk the distance.
[url]http://www.cafephoto.com.br/[/url]
(Expect to pay around 1,000.00R$ for your night)
There are several massage parlors in that area.
The best choice would be: Clinica the Palms
146 Rua Gomes de Carvalho - Vila Olimpia
Phone: (11) 3044-0366 / 3849-5119
Site: [url]http://www.thepalms.com.br[/url]
Schedule
From Monday to Friday :11:00h to 23:00h
Saturday: 11:00h to 21:30h
Prices
R$ 190,00 for the house
R$ 200 to 250,00 to deal with the garota
There's also a privé in Moema that is quite close. The prive is located on rua Eucaliptos. It's open all night long (till six am, if I'm not mistaken). If you're lucky you can find gems there.
657 Avenida dos Eucaliptos (between Santo Amaro and Ibirapuera). Coming from Itaim Bibi or Vila Olimpia you cannot miss it, there's a big bus stop (parada) on the corner of Santo Amaro and Eucaliptos
Phone: (11) 5041-4658
No Website
Open daily from 13:00h to 06:00h
Prices:
R$ 60,00 for 30 min
R$ 120,00 for 1 hour[/QUOTE]Sounds like there are some great options....and I'll post about my experiences.
Cheers
Can someone recomend a flat or hotel that is not dirty and not roach infested in the bela vista, liberdade, consolacao area. I had my focus on a flat on the santo amaro area but I found out from someone currently staying there that it is dirty and roach infested.
I decided to stop off in Sao Paulo for a couple of days before heading on to Rio. I don´t visit this city that often, but when I do I usually spend at least one night at Eu e Elas .... a nice little casa not too far from the downtown. I arrived there around 5PM and noticed that the place had been remodeled a bit. A lot of the erotic painting had been taken down and the "sala aberta" was closed up. I didn´t enquire as to why this might be simply because I didn´t really care all that much. I must admit that I was disappointed to find that they had converted the former adult cinema into another locker area (bummer). I guess life goes on ....
Since most guys were just getting off of work, I had the casa practically to myself since the few other guys there had already retired to a room with a companion. After showering and entering the main boate it was basically me and about 15 ladies staring my way. The majority were Paulistas, but I talked to a couple of gals who were from the north (Belem, Salvador, etc.). All colors and body types but thankfully they were generally on the lean side, which I greatly prefer). A rather tall and pretty blonde lady was flirting a lot and trying to get me to sit down and chat with her but I was still soaking in the scene and anticipating what talent might show up. Glad that I did because another lady, a morena, showed up and immediately caught my eyes. She had a sexy face plus a hot little body. I couldn´t stop looking at her so I went up to her and we got to know each other. She used some jacked up named like Nunchilla or some none-sense like that, so what? She could be called "ass wipe" for all I care. We chatted and vibed well. She asked me if I planned to take her upstairs and I was like, "Oh yeah!". She quoted me R$150 and off we went. She turned out to be very passionate and we had a good workout in the sack. Afterwards, we went to my locker and I paid the piper .... also gave her a gold pendant that I purchased in Colombia a couple of year ago. Would I repeat? Yes.
I showered, used the sauna until I could no longer stand the heat, and then showered again. I felt I was good for one more round so after resting in the lounge for a bit I made my way back to the boate. Nunchilla(sp?) was there and we chatted a bit more. It was around 8PM by this time and much more crowded with business men types. Looked around for a few minutes and then wandered back to the lounge area. Was watching some futbol when a nice looking and small morena approached me and offered some legumes. She had a very pretty face but oddly her body was covered in a big overcoat. My initial thought was to send her packing. Surprisingly I continued talking with her for a while and at least she did open up her coat a few times so I could check out the goods. No huge gut, no hideous stretch marks, no gun shot wounds .... OK I think I could work with this. I asked her how much she wanted to go upstairs and she quoted R$200 , apparently because in her opinion most guys that visit Eu e Elas are rich. I probably could have talked her down, but I figure that R$50 is chump change. Off we went. BTW - I think she called herself Julie. She was more business-like and not quite as passionate as "Nun-Chi" but the sex was far from bad. Quite good actually and we both got a good sweat going. After the deed I paid my dues and she gave me her phone number for a possible meeting outside. She has a lady friend that she lives with - wonder what she looks like.
On exiting I apparently owed the house R$275 for use of the rooms and drinks I purchased for myself and the ladies. Add to that the cost for my companions and the total for the night equaled R$625. Not so bad actually. I love Paulistas and the women especially. Too bad the city is crap IMO. Have made my way to Rio where the weather is nicer and definitely better views; but I look forward to visiting Sampa again.
- DSK
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Any suggestions?
Thanks
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I'm a long time reader, just starting to give some back. I traveled to Sao Paulo a lot in the past with many great experiences. Hopefully this can help some fellow mongerers out. Millennium Club was always my favorite (so many girls, such high quality, awesome party scene), but alas, it was closed down by d-bag mayor. Same owner also has a club called Liberal out in Sao Bernardo. A bit rougher neighborhood, quality not quite as high, but awesome scene (US strip club style with many, many gorgeous and passionate girls). I have also tried Connections and Bomboa. Connections is similar in style to Millennium / Liberal, but quality is mediocre (by Brazil standards) and area seems hella unsafe (when I went the spot was full of 'hoods and I was afraid to flash any kind of real cash). Bomboa has top-notch quality, but scene is more laid back, bar /restaurant with more fully clothed girls; good, but not my preferred scene. Also have been to Fazendinha's (spelling?) way out in Campinas. Seemed like a good spot, but I went on Sat night and it was lame (only a few girls, being hoarded by a few japanese. I guess the gals didn't realize that us US boys are the real ballers). Anyways, one other word of advice, if you are a foreigner and not fluent in Portuguese, make sure you have a local buddy if you travel to the rougher neighborhoods. I had a very nasty run-in with the police that could have probably been averted if I had a portuguese-speaking buddy with me (don't have time to spill all the details, but if it had happened in US, I would have a multi-million dollar lawsuit, instead I just got some bruises and a cracked rib)
[QUOTE=I Miss Millenium]I'm a long time reader, just starting to give some back. I traveled to Sao Paulo a lot in the past with many great experiences. Hopefully this can help some fellow mongerers out. Millennium Club was always my favorite (so many girls, such high quality, awesome party scene), but alas, it was closed down by d-bag mayor. Same owner also has a club called Liberal out in Sao Bernardo. A bit rougher neighborhood, quality not quite as high, but awesome scene (US strip club style with many, many gorgeous and passionate girls). I have also tried Connections and Bomboa. Connections is similar in style to Millennium / Liberal, but quality is mediocre (by Brazil standards) and area seems hella unsafe (when I went the spot was full of 'hoods and I was afraid to flash any kind of real cash). Bomboa has top-notch quality, but scene is more laid back, bar /restaurant with more fully clothed girls; good, but not my preferred scene. Also have been to Fazendinha's (spelling?) way out in Campinas. Seemed like a good spot, but I went on Sat night and it was lame (only a few girls, being hoarded by a few japanese. I guess the gals didn't realize that us US boys are the real ballers). Anyways, one other word of advice, if you are a foreigner and not fluent in Portuguese, make sure you have a local buddy if you travel to the rougher neighborhoods. I had a very nasty run-in with the police that could have probably been averted if I had a portuguese-speaking buddy with me (don't have time to spill all the details, but if it had happened in US, I would have a multi-million dollar lawsuit, instead I just got some bruises and a cracked rib)[/QUOTE]What part of SP did you have a problem with policia, and why?
Thanks
Hello,
I have been reading this guide for quit some time but mainly used it for others countries.
So it is my first trip to Sao Paulo. I am arriving on the 31st of May and staying on business for 10 days.
Since I am having a hard time getting orientation I was wondering if near the Hotel I am staying I could find a nice place to relax after work.
I will be in Campo Belo in a Hotel near the Congonhas Airport. I really would appreciate any tips for finding something near by.
Chears
PS I also will be in Rio for 1 or 2 days but not sure where our agent is booking the hotel for me.
I will be in Sao Paulo the middle of next week, I am traveling for business so I have no control where I stay and not a great deal of money. I only speak English and this is my first trip to Brazil. I have traveled to a lot of different countries and am not new to the hobby but I have some concerns about the language problem and not knowing my way around especially after reading I Miss Millenium's report. I don't think I will have a guide while I am there.
So here are my questions, I am staying at the Tryp Tatuape Rua Serra de Juréa, 351.
I am looking for 2 things a strip club and a massage parlor (HJ maybe a CBJ) by an attractive naked woman that I can easily and safely get to. And how hard will it be to convey what I want?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Ecoquest]
Since I am having a hard time getting orientation I was wondering if near the Hotel I am staying I could find a nice place to relax after work.
I will be in Campo Belo in a Hotel near the Congonhas Airport. I really would appreciate any tips for finding something near by.
.[/QUOTE]
I would recommend Clinica. I can vouch for that clinica. I've been there several times.
Clínica Cherry - 2, 019 Rua Pascal - Campo Belo - 5041-2119 / 5044-5696 / R$ 170 .
There's another one in Campo Belo:
[url]http://www.spafuttom.com.br/[/url]
I've never been there.
You can also check this one:
[url]http://www.chingling.com.br/[/url]
Close by there is also clinica Abbobora in Moema (Avenida Miruna)
[url]http://www.abbobora.com.br/localiza.html[/url]
Finally there are the clinics and the privês near the Morumbi shopping (not too far in taxi)
Another nearby clinica is FranceBel rua pascal 1634 in campo belo
much recommended
enjoy and report back
[QUOTE=Sui Generis]I would recommend Clinica. I can vouch for that clinica. I've been there several times.
Clínica Cherry - 2, 019 Rua Pascal - Campo Belo - 5041-2119 / 5044-5696 / R$ 170 .
There's another one in Campo Belo:
[url]http://www.spafuttom.com.br/[/url]
I've never been there.
Anot
You can also check this one:
[url]http://www.chingling.com.br/[/url]
Close by there is also clinica Abbobora in Moema (Avenida Miruna)
[url]http://www.abbobora.com.br/localiza.html[/url]
Finally there are the clinics and the privês near the Morumbi shopping (not too far in taxi)[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bionicman]Another nearby clinica is FranceBel rua pascal 1634 in campo belo
much recommended
enjoy and report back[/QUOTE]
Right!
How could I forgot that one! I have so many memories in that district. It was always a pleasure to go to the former Privê do Hector (on Sapoti Street) while I was near Congonhas Airport.
I have been in Brazil for a few days in Sao Paulo and then to nearby Guaruja. Guaruja was a week long conference at a 5* resort that was expensive and had nothing much on offer.
When first in Sao Paulo I stayed near Centro at Novotel Jaragua Hotel and the first night I went to Kilt and My Love and the other bars nearby. Went too early at 9 pm and sat drinking waiting for some action and ended up with a bellyful of booze and not much else. At Kilt there were a lot of large ladies and not much English spoken. They seemed to expect you to sit at the bar or a table and not move around which did not help. Went from there to My Love which was less crowded and a large Italian gal who spoke fair English took possession of me. I eventually saw a smaller but still shapely gal sitting alone and managed to wave her over. Then had trouble getting rid of the Italian but eventually took my find Jane to the cabine at the back for R200 for 45 mins. She got it all off and gave me CBJ etc – She tried for covered doggie but johnny was not working well under that sea of scotch. But I remembered her as a cutie.
I then got out of Guaruja early and went to same hotel for one night. Went to My Love about 10 pm and there was not much on offer without silicon enhancements which I avoid. Bought a few drinks and was about to take one reasonable one to the back when Jane walked in wearing her all black street clothes. Waved her over and got her a drink and discovered that all night at hotel was going for R300. Settled on that and she asked for a couple of Tequilas to settle her nerves – fine. Ended up R150 for drinks for gals and me. Taxi to hotel door and no problems there - we finished my duty free scotch and got into it for 3 sessions before she left at 7 am. Everything was there except for rear entry and FS sans condom. Lovely gal – I should have taken her to Guaruja.
I do think that the Centro area of Sao Paulo is dirty and rough with lots of beggars etc to interfere with your conscience. My view also is that Brazilian (at least in the areas I went to) women are a little overrated and whilst there are some beauties I do not think that their occurrence is higher than elsewhere.
Unfortunately my hotel is a bit far out. I planned on hooking up with an escort, but time unfortunately denied me that pleasure as I only had a couple of hours during the morning.
I stayed at the Comfort Inn Suites, Alphaville, which is located right across from a shopping mall, which is actuallly open air with small, cozy streets and a ton of restaurants. And 2 massaeuse places which I found on GPGuia.
Both are actually inside the myriad of small streets in the shopping mall, but there are maps everywhere as well as streets and houses are well identified so it is easy to find as you walk around.
There is one on calçada dos girassois no 24, price is 250R for full service and then there is another one on calçada flor de Lis no 84, price is 200R for full service.
I find that a bit steep, but went for the Flor de Lis 84.
Very discrete place, with 2 working girls around 11. 30 AM in the morning. I picked Rafaelle, a 25 year old slim Brazilian girl, nice face, flat breast and not a lot of curves as other Garotas.
Installations are modest but clean. I did find it worrying that there was no gate nor a big bouncer type there, you can basically walk right in.
Service was CBJ, and then FS covered as well. Very mechanical, but she did have a tight pussy and knew how to move it so I came fast.
Wouldn't go back nor recommend it, but have seen positive reviews on GPGuia about the place, I guess it all depends on the girl you hook up with.
[QUOTE=Sui Generis]I would recommend Clinica. I can vouch for that clinica. I've been there several times.
Clínica Cherry - 2, 019 Rua Pascal - Campo Belo - 5041-2119 / 5044-5696 / R$ 170 .
There's another one in Campo Belo:
[url]http://www.spafuttom.com.br/[/url]
I've never been there.
You can also check this one:
[url]http://www.chingling.com.br/[/url]
Close by there is also clinica Abbobora in Moema (Avenida Miruna)
[url]http://www.abbobora.com.br/localiza.html[/url]
Finally there are the clinics and the privês near the Morumbi shopping (not too far in taxi)[/QUOTE]Thanks a lot for all the feedback. I arrived this morning 5am and just got back to my Hotel hooking my laptop to the internet reading all the replies. Really jetlacked today so I will start tommorow evening checking on or the other out. I will report back.
chears
ecoquest
Ok, thanks to everyone for Hotel help. I think I've settled on the Travel Inn Park Ave, though it seems a bit cheesy. If anyone's stayed in a high quality hotel in Jardims that's girl-friendly (no guest charges or dirty looks), please feel free to shout out the rec. Thanks.
The Rennaisance Hotel is in Jardims. Had no extra charges or issues with bringing someone in, and the location is very convenient.
[QUOTE=Ecoquest]Thanks a lot for all the feedback. I arrived this morning 5am and just got back to my Hotel hooking my laptop to the internet reading all the replies. Really jetlacked today so I will start tommorow evening checking on or the other out. I will report back.
chears
ecoquest[/QUOTE]take into account that clinicas do close a bit earleir on saturdays (7pm) and are not opened on sundays.,
Could not find her last time I was in SP but going in 2 weeks -available by another name?
[QUOTE=Palmisano]Privates:
In my opinion they are the best way to get laid for little money and then pick up the good girls' phonenumbers. The following addresses are already some months old, so not 100% sure if they are all still valid. But I would especially recommend the area around Rua Loefgreen / Metro Santa Cruz. There are at least 6 privates in <5 minutes walking distance that all cost between R$50 and R$70 per hour and many have pretty girls (levels 3. 8, most only have 4 women, so sometimes you just need to go from one place to the next one).
Privê da R. Pereira Estéfano, 218
- Metro: Saúde [R$60]
R. Pitangueiras 125
- Metro: Pç da Árvore. Price 30R ½ hr, 50R FS 1 hr
Privê da Rua Ouvidor Peleja, 142
- Metro: Saúde. [R$50]
Privê Abbacate. Rua Luiz Góis, 810
- Metro: Santa Cruz. [R$70]
- Rua loefgreen, 977 (+ plenty of other brothels in the direct neighbourhood).
Metro: Santa Cruz. 5539-3843/5081-3149 [R$50][/QUOTE]Awesome report. I'll be in SP next week and will try out a few of your suggestions. I don't speak the language, but I imagine showing an address to a taxi driver will be sufficient.
I'm sorry if I said something wrong in my first post, or maybe it hasn't been long enough to get a response but I did find my hotel on the IsawMap and it looks like Lunas Clínica on Rua Francisco Zicardi 387 is close to my hotel. Is this a safe place? I haven't seen any reports on it, has anyone been there?
Thanks
Thanks Borregos77 for the tips in Alphaville. Anyone recommend another option reasonably close as I will be staying there a few days for work as well.
Hi,
Just got back from Rio. The Clinica Cherry seams close by. Checked their website. Is the price for completo 170 or do you have to pay for fucking extra to the girl?
Chears
[QUOTE=Sui Generis]I would recommend Clinica. I can vouch for that clinica. I've been there several times.
Clínica Cherry - 2, 019 Rua Pascal - Campo Belo - 5041-2119 / 5044-5696 / R$ 170 .
There's another one in Campo Belo:
[url]http://www.spafuttom.com.br/[/url]
I've never been there.
You can also check this one:
[url]http://www.chingling.com.br/[/url]
Close by there is also clinica Abbobora in Moema (Avenida Miruna)
[url]http://www.abbobora.com.br/localiza.html[/url]
Finally there are the clinics and the privês near the Morumbi shopping (not too far in taxi)[/QUOTE]
The prices you see quoted on the internet include the dirty deed. Check out the local board and verify just in case.
[QUOTE=Ecoquest]Hi,
Just got back from Rio. The Clinica Cherry seams close by. Checked their website. Is the price for completo 170 or do you have to pay for fucking extra to the girl?
Chears[/QUOTE]
Will anal be possible here or not normal in a Clinica. Looks like a great option from the airport.
[QUOTE=Bondo500]Could not find her last time I was in SP but going in 2 weeks -available by another name?[/QUOTE]
I have heard she got married.
Here is an interesting report on corruption and prostitution in Sao Paolo. I found it in one of the local boards. What I find interesting is the display of one of the cheapo houses (Rua dos Andradas, 69), a BR20 for sex spot that is right infront of a police station. I had no idea...
[url]http://noticias.r7.com/sao-paulo/noticias/-predio-do-sexo-divide-espaco-com-a-policia-no-centro-de-sao-paulo-20100402.html[/url]
[url=http://www.clinicakin.com.br/clinica.htm]Clinica Kin[/url], [url=http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=235+Rua+Prof+Dr.+Jos%C3%A9+Marques+da+Cruz,+sao+paulo,+br&sll=42.421131,-71.140654&sspn=0.011484,0.020599&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=R.+Prof.+Jos%C3%A9+Marques+da+Cruz,+235+-+Santo+Amaro,+S%C3%A3o+Paulo,+04707-020,+Brazil&ll=-23.626262,-46.688923&spn=0.007126,0.0103&z=17]235 Rua Prof Dr. José Marques da Cruz[/url]
Easy to find [u]only[/u] if you study google maps and bring a printed map and/or directions, because it is a very small street off of a large one, and drivers may not know it. The driver was looking it up in his book, but used my google map when I showed it to him. He commented a couple times on what a small street it was. The [url=http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=235+Rua+Prof+Dr.+Jos%C3%A9+Marques+da+Cruz,+sao+paulo,+br&sll=42.421131,-71.140654&sspn=0.011484,0.020599&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=R.+Prof.+Jos%C3%A9+Marques+da+Cruz,+235+-+Santo+Amaro,+S%C3%A3o+Paulo,+04707-020,+Brazil&ll=-23.626262,-46.688923&spn=0.007126,0.0103&z=17]google map[/url] actually marks the location as a clinica!
Look for the 235 sign, probably with a man and a chair, no other sign. Inside there's a nice lobby with some couches, friendly mamas to greet you. Not real private, as there were two other guys (5:30pm Thursday). They called the girls, who came out one at a time to greet me, pecked my cheek, said their name, left. If you're looking for particular services, there isn't much time to ask in this routine, but you could ask the mamas about specific girls and services when the parade is finished.
A nice variety of good-looking girls. One who was not on parade had enormous boobs and hips, without being especially fat. Another guy saw here and took her. I don't think most of the girls were wearing makeup, or at least not enough to notice. I could have been happy with most of them, but two stood out, and I chose a pretty bleached-blonde, Caca (I'm sure she doesn't know what her name means to some of us). Oddly, I had to wait 20+ minutes after paying (R$140 hour, R$100 half hour) before she returned to take me to a room.
She gave me a towel and soap for a solo shower. As I was toweling off she was in doggie position, wagging her tail at me with an inviting grin. Nice! I have had only Asian girls for the past 6+ years, tend to like them petite, and Caca was a full-size Western girl, almost my height. Her larger size was an interesting experience after being used to small Asians.
Very nice natural boobs, fine figure, neither fat nor thin, 26. Sunny, friendly manner; chatty after the action was done, not much English, but understood my Portuñol well enough. No rush. She wanted me on my back, and did a common routine: CBJ (allowing a bit of 69), then cowgirl, reverse CG, doggie, mish. I expect I could have directed the action any way I wanted, and that other things were on the menu, but sometimes it's nice to see what the girl will do on her own. She was not into kissing, about the only minus of the session. Partly because of this, I didn't finish with the usual, but she was also good with her hands. I took an hour, so with the remaining time she rubbed my back with lotion (nice, but not a therepeutic massage) and settled into trying to talk with me. I don't understand Portugese well, and her English is minimal, but she patiently tried various ways to make conversation, and was friendly and relaxed during it. My Spanish is good enough for small talk, and she like most Brazileros understand it if you don't speak fast, and I used what Portugese I know.
She was very personable. The service was slightly mechanical in the set routine. She was not there to get her own needs met, but seemed to enjoy her work. Can't call it GFE, because I have never had a girlfriend who was focused only on my needs and knew all the moves, and there was no kissing (important to me); still, she was friendly and easy to be with. She gave me the full hour (until the phone rang) and did not ask for a tip.
Face: 9. Body: 9. Attitude: 9. Service: 7. Would I repeat? No, because there are SO many nice women to choose from, and I missed the kissing.
The other evening, it was Saturday night, I wanted to check out my favorite Boate in the Augusta area, Casarao.
I love this place on Thursday thru Saturday nights because they open the back bar, doubling the size of the place and there are usually some pretty nice garotas about on these nights.
Well, this night was no exception.
I like to get there at about 11 pm or so. I sit at the front bar and watch as the garotas enter the boate and then proceed upstairs to prepare themselves.
Between midnite and about 130 am is the best for me.
Most of the garotas are now milling about in the boate, and it's still pretty tranquilo 'cause all the young Brasileiros haven't quite arrived yet making the place too crowded, at least for me.
I spotted this beautiful garota, and I do mean beautiful, however, she had kind of a scowl on her face.
I decided to keep an eye on her to find the right time to approach her and try to schmooze her a bit.
When she sat back alone in the back bar I approached her simply by offering her a stick of gum, and we started talking.
... report to be continued shortly ...
... An amiga just arrived, and I don't want to be rude writing ISG reports while she's here ... :)
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I have been going through all the reports about Sao Paulo and I am ready to go for myself. I was planning to stay somewhere near Hotel Lido or Hotel Savoy depending on which are is safer since I am just going to walk to and from the hotel to the motel. Anyone have any advice which area is better and which hotels you recommend to stay in?
[QUOTE=Cartero]I have been going through all the reports about Sao Paulo and I am ready to go for myself. I was planning to stay somewhere near Hotel Lido or Hotel Savoy depending on which are is safer since I am just going to walk to and from the hotel to the motel. Anyone have any advice which area is better and which hotels you recommend to stay in?[/QUOTE]I would say go to googlemaps and type in hotels liberdade sao paulo since thats near hotel lido also type hotels rua frei caneca sao paulo is also a nice area. that will bring up a lot of results plkus you can where you are staying easily.
[QUOTE=Auriflama] thats near hotel lido also type hotels rua frei caneca sao paulo is also a nice area.[/QUOTE]Hey Manute Bol, for someone who has NEVER been to SP, you seems to have quickly becomed a "specialist".
ROFLMAO
[QUOTE=Prosal]Hey Manute Bol, for someone who has NEVER been to SP, you seems to have quickly becomed a "specialist".
ROFLMAO[/QUOTE]Hey prosal thats another dollar you owe for negative toxic post. you owe 1 grand now so pay up.
I though I would give some help to this knowing you would not like it and knowing you would try and jump down someones throat for asking a question, I mean because you own this board so your allowed to do that right? or you think you own it or you think wearing a suit makes you the man but isnt the man that makes the suit.
[QUOTE=Auriflama]Hey prosal thats another dollar you owe for negative toxic post. you owe 1 grand now so pay up.
I though I would give some help to this knowing you would not like it and knowing you would try and jump down someones throat for asking a question, I mean because you own this board so your allowed to do that right? or you think you own it or you think wearing a suit makes you the man but isnt the man that makes the suit.[/QUOTE]No matter where is located the lilypad on which the frog is perched, it is still a frog. splob'vious, isn't it?
[QUOTE=Auriflama]Hey prosal thats another dollar you owe for negative toxic post. you owe 1 grand now so pay up.
I though I would give some help to this knowing you would not like it and knowing you would try and jump down someones throat for asking a question, I mean because you own this board so your allowed to do that right? or you think you own it or you think wearing a suit makes you the man but isnt the man that makes the suit.[/QUOTE]I thought one had already seen all the kind of weirdos here on ISG, but here is a new specie, the weirdo who informs about places where he has never been (and probably will never go). And furthermore vindictive when someone dares to point it out.
No matter why you mesh well with Zingadumb. Even if admittedly his problem, which is mythomania and fantasizing about places he allegedly been or will go, is completely different (yet related).
[QUOTE=Zingadoon]No matter where is located the lilypad on which the frog is perched, it is still a frog. splob'vious, isn't it?[/QUOTE]
SploB'vios to me also. Did Prosal misunderstand?
[QUOTE=Auriflama]Hey prosal thats another dollar you owe for negative toxic post. you owe 1 grand now so pay up.
I though I would give some help to this knowing you would not like it and knowing you would try and jump down someones throat for asking a question, I mean because you own this board so your allowed to do that right? or you think you own it or you think wearing a suit makes you the man but isnt the man that makes the suit.[/QUOTE]
I would just ignore him. That's what I do, as a rule. It's not even worth your time.
Imagine all that negativity... must eat him alive.
[QUOTE=Jota Erre]I would just ignore him. That's what I do, as a rule. It's not even worth your time.
Imagine all that negativity... must eat him alive.[/QUOTE]Speaking of weirdos.
:rolleyes:
[QUOTE=Poucolouco] Did Prosal misunderstand?[/QUOTE]All the contrary. If I was interested by behavior disorders, I'd make of J.E, Manute Bol (aka Auriflama) and Zingadoon some of my favorite studies subjects. ;)
[QUOTE=Auriflama] rua frei caneca sao paulo is also a nice area[/QUOTE]The most funny thing is that when you talk about "rua Frei Caneca" (without ever having been there) you quote ....me.
ROFLMAO
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=983981&postcount=538[/url]
[QUOTE=Royalflush]The Rennaisance Hotel is in Jardims. Had no extra charges or issues with bringing someone in, and the location is very convenient.[/QUOTE]If you are having the girl stay overnight, they WILL charge you.
[QUOTE=Prosal]All the contrary. If I was interested by behavior disorders, I'd make of J.E, Manute Bol (aka Auriflama) and Zingadoon some of my favorite studies subjects. ;)[/QUOTE]Welcome to my fan club, prozzle! Although it's been exclusively ladies, you can be the token closet case.
[QUOTE=Prosal]The most funny thing is that when you talk about "rua Frei Caneca" (without ever having been there) you quote ....me.
ROFLMAO
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=983981&postcount=538[/url][/QUOTE]I took the name out manute bol cause he passed away claude van dum. We WE? I actually got the information about frei caneca from someone currently living there and someone currently staying there. So you dont like it kick rocks. you can go to sao paulo 1000 times and your still a piece of garbage no matter how much info you think you have.
why dont you stick to other countries ok trouble maker? that another dollar you owe. did you pay? well if you didnt you should not be posting here.
[QUOTE=Zingadoon]No matter where is located the lilypad on which the frog is perched, it is still a frog. splob'vious, isn't it?[/QUOTE]Beware of the Splob!
It creeps and leaps and glides and slides across the floor.
Right through the door and all around the wall.
A splotch, a blotch.
Be careful of the Splob!
(With appologies to the Five Blobs)
[QUOTE=Almotu]If you are having the girl stay overnight, they WILL charge you.[/QUOTE]
Hey amigo, I stay at the Ren hotel quite frequently, and have never been charged.
Ate breve ... :)
[QUOTE=Auriflama]I took the name out manute bol cause he passed away claude van dum. We WE? I actually got the information about frei caneca from someone currently living there and someone currently staying there. So you dont like it kick rocks. you can go to sao paulo 1000 times and your still a piece of garbage no matter how much info you think you have.
why dont you stick to other countries ok trouble maker? that another dollar you owe. did you pay? well if you didnt you should not be posting here.[/QUOTE]Honestly, I think I gonna leave this interesting conversation here. One poster pointed me by PM that your ex-persona was banned from both this and another board. That is surely why you mesh well with your twin weirdo chode Jotta Erre, also used to banishments. So to apply the old adage, never argue with a fool, he will drag you down to his level then beat you by experience. Bye.
[QUOTE=Prosal]Honestly, I think I gonna leave this interesting conversation here. One poster pointed me by PM that your ex-persona was banned from both this and another board. That is surely why you mesh well with your twin weirdo chode Jotta Erre, also used to banishments. So to apply the old adage, never argue with a fool, he will drag you down to his level then beat you by experience. Bye.[/QUOTE]Wait Wait first you cry for someone to pay so you can kiss ass like the brown noser you are. Now you make false paranoid about someone being banned. Dude you should be banned for your prejudice comments and the trouble you constantly start endlessly on this board. Your 19 donation does not give you the right to say what you want claude van dum. You have no purpose on this thread 99 percent of your posts are toxic mean spirited responses trying to prove that your better than someone.
In a month I go there for business. Are there some good spots spots around this neighbourhood? Casas, boates, night clubs.
Info welcome!
Hi,
Its my first time in SP. Are there any interesting casas, clubs, boates in this neighbourhood? I guess outside the center you should find good top-spots too which are 'less touristic' and pricey?
Info welcome!
[QUOTE=John Doe Six]Hi,
Its my first time in SP. Are there any interesting casas, clubs, boates in this neighbourhood? I guess outside the center you should find good top-spots too which are 'less touristic' and pricey?
Info welcome![/QUOTE]John,
If you are a newbie new in town you should not go outside of city limit stay away from trouble area like Centro ,club and casa open and closed all the time , so ask the taxi driver they will know the latest action in town or just ask for incall in your hotel .
Fast Eddie 48
Long time, no post. I am living in Sao Paulo now. Have been here most of the last two years. I have not been active on this forum because it is mostly first time visitors and there is not much value for me. I tend to read gpguia, the local Brasilian forum for foristas (punters).
Anyway, I just thought I would throw out an idea to see if there might be some mutual benefits. I can make myself available to act as a boate or masage parlor guide to SP visitors if there is some quid pro quo, for example covering my entrance fee / drinks at one of the upscale boates. I like to go to the boates, I am familiar with them all. Photo, Bomboa, Ilha the Fantasia, Garden, Connection, Scandolo Lounge etc. I would put my local knowledge of the sex scene in SP up against anyones. I have massage girls that visit me in their off hours, I participate in the local swing scene and have banged quite a few wives while their husbands watched or participated. And we are talking some hot swinging wives, not dogs. Its all good in SP if you know where to go and how to act. But it is not easy for a visitor. Ordinarily, I would not ask for compensation, but I am working on a startup for sweat equity right now, so I am economizing. Therefore, I would not splurge for the 150-200 entrada and taxi fare to go to a boate when I have a list of 5 regular morenas that will visit me if I ring them up.
However, I LIKE the boate scene, particularly, I love the atmosphere of Bomboa, and I do like swapping stories with fellow punters, and chatting up Brasileiras. So particularly if your Portuguese is not up to snuff, I could be of assistance. I am based in Moema, but I am familiar with nearly the entire known universe of high end pussy in SP, from prive, clinica, to boate and acomphantes.
Anyway, this was just an idea that popped into my head the other night as I perused this site. If you are interested in a quid pro quo, send me a private message.
If you have any doubts about my credentials, read some of my prior posts. I made substantial and detailed reports on the SP scene about 5 years ago, the time of my first visit. Then I spent a few years living and mongering in Russia. Now I am in the land of bunda.
Rovnak, Just spend 5 minutes writing you a PM but the system is saying you are not accepting private messages! I am interested, PM me your contact details.
Rovnak,
I encountered the same problem with your private messages. I am traveling to SP next week and would be interested in meeting up.
Please message me.
Thanks,
Chipshot
[QUOTE=Almotu]Rovnak, Just spend 5 minutes writing you a PM but the system is saying you are not accepting private messages! I am interested, PM me your contact details.[/QUOTE]Ah [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url]. My account had been inactive. When I reactivated it I did so with a new email. However, the email associated with my user profile is from an old yahoo email that I have not accessed in forever. So now, I am in some sort of limbo state. Active but not activated. I am trying to reactivate my yahoo email b/c the faq in this site said I cannot change my email in my profile here without access to the old email. Catch 22.
Damn, so I cannot receive or send PMs yet, even though my subscription was processed. Hopefully, this will sort out within 24 hours.
Almotu, is your timetable this week?
[QUOTE=John Doe Six]Hi,
Its my first time in SP. Are there any interesting casas, clubs, boates in this neighbourhood? I guess outside the center you should find good top-spots too which are 'less touristic' and pricey?
Info welcome![/QUOTE]
Better try the clinicas to have a first feeling ... safe and nice.
Hello Fellow Punters,
Well after being kicked by a GF i decided to visit Bomboa this week. All i can say is that the club has changed a lot since 2004 when i first started visiting it.
Well, the entrance is up to R$200 which will give you about 4-5 red label doses.
Girls are not what it used to be but right the athmosphere is cool if you like to see girls in tasty outfits and some with barely any clothes. In the past girls could wlak around using bikinis but now they have to act as if they are in a "real" bar just hanging out.
The overall quality of the girls is ok. I say this due to the prices these girls are charging these days. If they see you are a "gringo" they will start off with R$500 and try to close the deal for around R$350-400 for barely 1 hour of sex. On top of that you have to pay about R$100 for a room. Add entrance and you are looking to spend about R$800 for a 1 hour fuck at bomboa.
As i am a brazilian and i know the place since it opened in 2004 i have my usual gfs that will close the deal with me at my rate which is R$200 tops for a fuck in such a place. I refuse to pay more than this because it is money throw away in the garbage. I have quite a few girls that i know from bomboa that actually became friends that i hang out sometimes. Usually i wait until it is 3am and leave bomboa with the girl, this way i dont have to pay their exit fee which is R$100 and i take them to my place and fuck until the morning for the same R$200.
Anyways, Bomboa is a good option to hang out and see some ass around but not the best option for someone who is looking for a bargain.
CAFÉ PHOTO - These days it is the best option in town when you consider an hourly rate. The majority of the girls are hot and prices will range from R$500 and up. From experience timeframe is around 2-3 hours. ALWAYS set the details before hand with the girl if you are not a regular. This way you avoid going to take a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] to come back and see the girl dressing up ready to leave. Entrance is R$150 - Thats just to enter a smile. Drinks are on the top of that.
SCANDALLO LOUNGE - EX- MILLENIUM
This place used to be the best buck for buck in são paulo. Fair prices and very good service. They had one of the largest selections of girls in the city.
I visited the place last week. A lot has changed but to sum it up it is still the best bang for your buck. The athmosphere is similar to bomboa.. a lot of girls walking around and looking for love. The overall quality is bellow bomboa but so are the prices. Dont pay more than R$200 for a fuck. Just dont do it. Tell the girl to take a walk and i can guarantee they come back within 5 minutes ans will say something like: "Ok...I will charge you R$200 just cause i liked you. Dont tell anyone about this ok"..
Entrance is R$50 to R$100 it depends on the hours.
Well, as Rovnak stated i also like to hang out on clubs, boates and swing. I am a local and know basically all managers of the boates in sp. I used to hang out on these places more often but i just got dumped by a GF and decided to come back into the scene.
If you are visiting são paulo and want to hang out in town i will gladly join you as long you cover my entrance fee. I mostly hang out by myself on boates and i know it is not as fun as when you have someone to trashtalk girls and say stupid shit lol... Plus when you go alone girls will most of the time intimidate you to overprice them.. if am with you i wont let that happen buddy..lol
Anyways, if anyone is in town and want to hang out you can drop me a line using the Private Message - I am in my late 20´s and some of the places i like are:
Boates:
Bomboa
Ilha da Fantasia
Cafe Photo
Scandallo Lounge
Nightclubs (You will find regular girls in these places)
Pink Elephant
Cafe de la Musique
Mokai
If anyone is looking to hang out drop me a line.
Hello Fellow Punters..
Well after being kicked by a GF i decided to visit Bomboa this week. All i can say is that the club has changed a lot since 2004 when i first started visiting it.
Well, the entrance is up to R$200 which will give you about 4-5 red label doses.
Girls are not what it used to be but right the athmosphere is cool if you like to see girls in tasty outfits and some with barely any clothes. In the past girls could wlak around using bikinis but now they have to act as if they are in a "real" bar just hanging out.
The overall quality of the girls is ok. I say this due to the prices these girls are charging these days. If they see you are a "gringo" they will start off with R$500 and try to close the deal for around R$350-400 for barely 1 hour of sex. On top of that you have to pay about R$100 for a room. Add entrance and you are looking to spend about R$800 for a 1 hour fuck at bomboa.
As i am a brazilian and i know the place since it opened in 2004 i have my usual gfs that will close the deal with me at my rate which is R$200 tops for a fuck in such a place. I refuse to pay more than this because it is money throw away in the garbage. I have quite a few girls that i know from bomboa that actually became friends that i hang out sometimes. Usually i wait until it is 3am and leave bomboa with the girl, this way i dont have to pay their exit fee which is R$100 and i take them to my place and fuck until the morning for the same R$200.
Anyways, Bomboa is a good option to hang out and see some ass around but not the best option for someone who is looking for a bargain.
CAFÉ PHOTO - These days it is the best option in town when you consider an hourly rate. The majority of the girls are hot and prices will range from R$500 and up. From experience timeframe is around 2-3 hours. ALWAYS set the details before hand with the girl if you are not a regular. This way you avoid going to take a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] to come back and see the girl dressing up ready to leave. Entrance is R$150 - Thats just to enter a smile. Drinks are on the top of that.
SCANDALLO LOUNGE - EX- MILLENIUM
This place used to be the best buck for buck in são paulo. Fair prices and very good service. They had one of the largest selections of girls in the city.
I visited the place last week. A lot has changed but to sum it up it is still the best bang for your buck. The athmosphere is similar to bomboa.. a lot of girls walking around and looking for love. The overall quality is bellow bomboa but so are the prices. Dont pay more than R$200 for a fuck. Just dont do it. Tell the girl to take a walk and i can guarantee they come back within 5 minutes ans will say something like: "Ok...I will charge you R$200 just cause i liked you. Dont tell anyone about this ok"..
Entrance is R$50 to R$100 it depends on the hours.
Well, as Rovnak stated i also like to hang out on clubs, boates and swing. I am a local and know basically all managers of the boates in sp. I used to hang out on these places more often but i just got dumped by a GF and decided to come back into the scene.
If you are visiting são paulo and want to hang out in town i will gladly join you as long you cover my entrance fee. I mostly hang out by myself on boates and i know it is not as fun as when you have someone to trashtalk girls and say stupid shit lol... Plus when you go alone girls will most of the time intimidate you to overprice them.. if am with you i wont let that happen buddy..lol
Anyways, if anyone is in town and want to hang out you can drop me a line by Private Message - I am in my late 20´s and some of the places i know are:
Boates:
Bomboa
Ilha da Fantasia
Cafe Photo
Scandallo Lounge
Nightclubs (You will find regular girls in these places)
Pink Elephant
Cafe de la Musique
Mokai
If anyone is looking to hang out drop me a line.
Hi,
I just wrote a report but iI cannot see it. Is there a reason for this?
Hi guys,
I'm new to the forum and I am planning to go to Sampa for the first time in August. I am looking for some clinicas or clubs with room. I'm not aiming to go to the top and high class clubs since from what I read, they seem to be overrated anyways.
So far, the places that caught my attentions are:
Clinicas:
Zen
Kin
American Center
Quatro Estacoes
Onna
For club I only know one so far:
Eu & Elas
Would you guys recommend those places? I am staying in Vila Mariana. I actually prefer clubs where I can chill and drink before I go for the kill like L'uomo in Rio. So if you guys could recommend me similar places, that would be great.
Also, how does pricing in clinicas work? What is the average price? Is it about R$150 for house and R$150-200 for the girls? Some posts said, R$150 total.
Rovnak: I won't get there until mid-August.
[QUOTE=Smcruisin]Hi guys,
I'm new to the forum and I am planning to go to Sampa for the first time in August. . . . . So far, the places that caught my attentions are:
Clinicas:
Zen
Kin
American Center
Quatro Estacoes
Onna
For club I only know one so far:
Eu & Elas
[/QUOTE]If you go to these clinicas, you can not hang out for long periods of time like in a Rio terma. Most clinicas will offer you something to drink while you wait to see the line-up. If you don't choose a girl, you normally have to leave. But you can stretch out your stay by telling them you want to check out the girls that are occupied with clients after they finish. I believe all the clinicas that you listed above have the session (FS) built into their pricing. I would say the pricing would be from R$110-R$150. They price themselves pretty closely. There are other clinicas where you pay on top of the massage fee for extras. (ie. The Palms, FranceBel)
I have been told that Eu & Elas is the closest thing in Sao Paulo to a terma but since I have yet to visit it, I can not tell you how it is.
One post below yours, you will read about Bomboa, Scandallo and Cafe Photo. All pricey but should be experienced at least once while in Sao Paulo. If you session one time on site in one of these places be prepared to spend at least $R455! (ie. Bomboa = 180 entry + 75 room + 200 gdp)
Another boite that was great was Bahamas which was shut down after a bust and never re-opened a couple of years ago.
Cafe Gauguin, Connection VIP and Mysterium (ex-Conniff) are some other clubs that I visited in the past but don't know if they are operating anymore or if the quality is still up.
There are cheaper bars with trashy on-site rooms on Av. Augusta which should be visited as well.
Just enjoy yourself. Please post your itinerary in the Travel Plans thread. We might be there at the same time!
[QUOTE=Jucesar]As i am a brazilian and i know the place since it opened in 2004[/QUOTE]Without being controversial, Bomboa has opened much earlier than 2004.
Hi,
Thanks for the updated infos!
Else any update about the escort scene?
Are there any reliable websites nowadays?
There are so many it's hard to determine on which you can rely on.
Testing to see if my posts are showing up more rapidly.
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Hi,
I understand that you were just testing your posting capabilities.
However, the forum has a thread specifically set up for this purpose in the Site Administration - Test Messages section.
Anyway, it would be cool if you would use the "Report this post to a Moderator" link in the lower left corner of your test message to send me a reminder that I can delete this test report.
[i]Thank You![/i]
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[QUOTE=Prosal]Without being controversial, Bomboa has opened much earlier
Than 2004.[/QUOTE]Hi
That was a misprint. Bomboa opened around 2001-2002.
Anyways. What is the difference? It has been opened for almost a decade. Sounds better?
Thanks Jackson, seems my PM access is good to go now. Any one who wants to reach me, I am available.
Today was interesting. I am involved in Kafka like circle jerk with Brasil beaurocratic system. Typical shit probably. But my day was a complete waste, other than that I now know more about the supply chain for identity cards, than the people who actually work in the system.
Be that as it may. Since I was already in Santo Amaro, I decided to stop by and check out a "clinica cluster" (my term for a group of clinicas within walking distance). If I have learned one thing about P4P, its that you really need to be patient and or lucky. Fortunately, I am amongst the most patient and selective mongers on the planet. I can watch lineup after lineup without losing my focus. And, since I live here, I can walk if there I do not feel the right vibe.
So I went to the Kin Cluster. Checked out Berrini and Akaza, the other parts of the cluster and finished up at Kin. Kin had their usual delayed reaction presentacao. The girls drift into the reception at various intervals, by the time you are halfway thru the girls. Another customer may enter, and the presentacao call goes out again, and then you have a dance of girls trying to figure out who they need to present to and who they have already done. I don't mind because it gives me a chance to check them out a second time. Looking at all the signs, how they walk, how they kiss you, how they evaluate the client. Very informative stuff.
Anyway, I chose one girl that I had been interested in meeting, had seen her on previous visit but she was waiting for appointment at that time. She was just the right cure all for the agravation of the beauracracy. Made me realize how lucky I am to be in such a place. Picture perfect morena, b/t 25-30, but with a tight little body. Really amazing figure for someone who has had a child. I would not have guessed. Start with nice conversation. "You are quite pretty". "I don't believe you". "Why not? ". "I will believe you if you take me away and marry me". Etc. After shower, kissing while standing, she eventually kneels to give me head. Then 69, then various positions, completely wet pussy wihout need for external lube (which I honestly understand, the average woman can dry up with latex), but this one was "muito molhadinha". Honestly, the girl came 3 times. I know, I know. Punters are saying this a lot when it is not true. But I have enuf experience to tell, and this one was full on stomach and pussy contractions to rival even the best gf encounters. This was not "goza para mim" stuff. Anyway, she was a blast. I have been on an incredibly good tear at the clinicas.. Strange b/c I had hardly visited them for 2 years. Being more into the boate TLN type of thing. But I am back to my original idea, that finding a few gems in the clinica is not a bad thing at all. And then, we exchange numbers and she may visit privately.
About a month ago, I had a clinica experience that was out of penthouse letters. I picked a blonde (different clinica, no presentation, just wall photos). Who looked in form. I take my shower and wait for her arrival in the room. In enters a true blonde mulherao, totally fitness center firm, large shapely thighs, nice waste, big boobs (not that I care about the boobs). She seems to like me at first glance. I wait for her to come to me, she comes up and presses against, we have not even said a word. We move into extreme tongue kissing. Still standing, I turn her to the wall, and push her short dress up, no panties. She pushes her bunda out, and I have my face planted in her pussy from behind. I can barely breath, kneeling there while this big pussy is ground against my mouth. Eventually I stand and we start doing it standing doggie. Then she says "wait. Lets go to the mirror". These may have been the first "words" we spoke. So we move to the other side by the mirror so that we can both watch as we continue to fuck. I mean it was like are Crumb and one of his big legged big ass cartoon chicks. Finally, after about 20 minutes into our session we actually make it to the bed. We then proceed to fuck for so long that the sheets became soaked with persperation and our mouths red from kissing too much. She could spread her legs like a gymnast and she had absolutely no problem at all with hard f'ng. At the end, I was so played I crawled home and went to sleep. And that was just a clinica session.
Re my report below. That was post good encounter high. Don't want to give the impression that every p4p encounter is like those two. I have my share of less than stellar encounters. However, I can pretty fairly say that the bell curve is shifted way to the right for Brasil compared to say the USA. E. G. My disappointing encounters in br would be considered "good to great" encounters in USA. I recall meeting 2 acomphantes, both gauchas, in Moema, via their internet site adds. Both had awesome bodies and good, not great, faces. And we went at it strong for the entire session. I could not complain, I found myself looking at this incredible brasileira butt as one of them did reverse cowgirl, and I thought "such a great body" but there just wasn't the same spark as I reported below. It all comes down to "quimica" / chemistry. That is why the odds of a great encounter with an internet escort are much lower than a great encounter with a boate girl. Because in the boate you can (usually) discover if you have good quimica. Not always. But most times. Some girls give great "boate", in that they seem totally hot to trot but are far less racy once you leave with them. Still, compared to the escorts, your odds are better. And the clinicas. They are really fast food, so that is part of the reason I was so astonished with the clinica visits I have had lately. They actually exceeded my expectations. So you win some and you lose some.
Hello fellow mongers
Where in SP can I find Colombianas? (pro-, semi- or non-pro?) I am a real sucker for the colombianas, especially if they are siliconas.
I know it's completely ridicoulous to be in Brazil and look for colombian girls, but what can I say - that's my thing.
Obrigado!
Lex
PS - venezuela girls would be fine too.
Rovnak:
Good stuff. I am guessing that the second session at the clinica with only photos on the wall was more expensive. Sounds like FranceBel or Palms where you pay directly to the gdp for the extras?
[QUOTE=Lex Lector]Hello fellow mongers
Where in SP can I find Colombianas? (pro-, semi- or non-pro?) I am a real sucker for the colombianas, especially if they are siliconas.
I know it's completely ridicoulous to be in Brazil and look for colombian girls, but what can I say - that's my thing.
Obrigado!
Lex
PS - venezuela girls would be fine too.[/QUOTE]
As far as I'm concerned I don't know any Colombians or girls from Venezuela in SP (in other parts of Brazil I do). There is (or there was because I'm not sure if she's still active) a certain Julia Mexicana (a Mexican) providing a good service.
What you can find (relatively) easily in certain privês is garotas coming from Peru or Bolivia. I don't have any name on mind right now.
Good luck
Hello, to all in this forum. Although this is my first post, I have been lurking on this site for a couple of months now. My main question to the fellow brothers out there is how would you compare the pay for play situation in Brazil with that of Thailand. I have been to Thailand 6 times.
Before my first trip to Thailand I was opposed to paying for sex much like, Silent Assasin, however as much as I preached before I went I did fall into the pay for sex scence. However, in Thailand it really does not seem like your paying for sex though, because the Thai girls act more like a girlfriend then what I would assume a hooker from the states would act. Is this the same in Brazil? Or are the girls in Brazil about the money only.
In Thailand for example I stayed with the same girl for my entire vacation and in the end I just gave her some money at the airport before I left. She never asked for a penny during our time together, and when I asked if she wanted money she only responded "Up to you". Has anyone had an experiene like this in Brazil? Or do most guys just pay for a couple of hours with a girl and then go out and find another one?
If anyone out there can break down the attitude of the average Brazilian girl you might find at a therma, or in help disco I would be grateful.
Yes, you could have done that then, meet a girl stay with her and pay at the end.
Times have changed but you still can get GFE comparing to other countries and they do enjoy sex too.
I am Brazilian, mid 30's born and raised in Sao Paulo.
Will be there mid august until early September.
Looking for a buddy to hang out in the "clubs".
I am going to see my family and will have tons of time during weekday/evenings.
Anyone interested let me know
[QUOTE=Bugzy 69]If anyone out there can break down the attitude of the average Brazilian girl you might find at a therma, or in help disco I would be grateful.[/QUOTE]Help is now closed and I believe it is Terma without the "H". One thing you must remember, the standard of living is much higher in Brazil than Thailand, hence everything costs more and of course the girls will want a lot more. Actually Brazil is not a cheap place to live anymore, you could probably live cheaper in the US than Brazil now - except for the pussy of course.
[QUOTE=Bugzy 69]... In Thailand for example I stayed with the same girl for my entire vacation and in the end I just gave her some money at the airport before I left. She never asked for a penny during our time together, and when I asked if she wanted money she only responded "Up to you". Has anyone had an experiene like this in Brazil? Or do most guys just pay for a couple of hours with a girl and then go out and find another one?
If anyone out there can break down the attitude of the average Brazilian girl you might find at a therma, or in help disco I would be grateful.[/QUOTE]I've had success in SP with the girls (GDPs) I've met in the clubs.
I use the club as a meeting place and almost never partake in PFP in the club itself.
I scout around a bit, it's hit and miss, and if I'm lucky, I meet a cool girl, buy her a drink and chat a bit.
I'll get her phone number and call her later for a get together, I say as friends getting to know eachother.
More times than not, but not always, we end up having a great time together and she'll stay with me for a couple days or a few days if it really goes well.
I don't negotiate price, I just lay some dineiro by her purse, towards the end of our time together.
If I misjudged the girl and she starts talking payment and money from the get go, I usually nicely let her go with a little taxi money.
I'm into finding the GFEs and like to be with girls who actually enjoy being with me too.
Now this technique definitely requires at least some OK portuguese skills as well as people skills.
Lots of cool garotas out there among the hard-core ones, and the hunt is half the fun.
Good luck
[QUOTE=Bugzy 69]If anyone out there can break down the attitude of the average Brazilian girl you might find at a therma, or in help disco I would be grateful.[/QUOTE]When I lived in Sao Paulo I was friends with a few GPs.
Some of them are lesbians and do it for the money, some are too high on coke to be friendly to anyone.
They mostly are fine to deal with as long as you know your place and hers, be friendly not pushy.
Read her body language and see if the words and actions match.
My system was always the same: talk to everybody and if someone shows bad attitude you ignore her.
But don't forget to smile and be friendly make sure that you are not coming across as a creep!
I know that taste should not be discussed but try to compare the quality/variety found in Brazil with Thailand is like comparing apple pie and cucumber.
Last time I went to Brasil I went to a club where they all hang out. I went to have a good time. And did!
I just kept dancing and talking to whomever smiled to me, kissed a bunch of girls, and ended up bringing one home for a few hours as she had to leave for work and I just gave her the cab money.
Lower your expectations, relax and enjoy the show and they will come to you!
Good luck.
[QUOTE=Warlock Canada]Last time I went to Brasil I went to a club where they all hang out. I went to have a good time. And did![/QUOTE]Love Story. This is where meninas "in the game" (from Photo, Bomboa, Gauguin, Kilt, ect) go to hang out for fun after working. They firstly go there to party. If they can make some extra money, fine. If not, they will drink and dance and relax. How many times I've drinked there without flinching with some girls till dawn, and then took them home for free, I can't even remember. Dozens literally. You have to bring your wallet though, as a bottle at a VIP table (mandatory to pick up) costs some 350 RS, maybe more nowadays.
Love Story is a great place. The best after-hours club on the planet. Honestly, I don't know why so many mongers whine about Help's closure, when there is such an heavenly place not so far, in a city which is admittedly 1000x more enthralling than Rio.
For anybody who has been to Help and wants to go to Love Story because it is often billed as being in the same league, in my opinion they will be very dissappointed, as I am. It is a tiny club in comparison, and a different experience. Thats just my opinion of course and opinions are like assholes, everybody has one!
[QUOTE=Bubba Boy]For anybody who has been to Help and wants to go to Love Story because it is often billed as being in the same league, in my opinion they will be very dissappointed, as I am. It is a tiny club in comparison, and a different experience. Thats just my opinion of course and opinions are like assholes, everybody has one![/QUOTE]+1. Love Story is a place where people go firstly to party. It's not a mass prostitution spot filled with culturally unaware Dickie Does and harcore faveladas.
Brasil has replaced Thailand as sex turism specially child sex, according to this paper...
The BBC ctually investigated and reported the problem. Yes, it is a huge problem, but they are concerned mainly about illegal child prostitution. Not the grown up sex trade that continues to flourish. Remember, prostitution is semi-legal here, pimping is illegal. Here is the article:
[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-10764371[/url]
[QUOTE=Samu Ray]Brasil has replaced Thailand as sex turism specially child sex, according to this paper...[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Prosal]It's not a mass prostitution spot filled with culturally unaware Dickie Does and harcore faveladas.[/QUOTE]
You see that why I don't like the place, I like hardcore favelada chics!
[quote=voyajer1]the bbc ctually investigated and reported the problem. yes, it is a huge problem, but they are concerned mainly about illegal child prostitution. not the grown up sex trade that continues to flourish. remember, prostitution is semi-legal here, pimping is illegal. here is the article:
[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-10764371[/url][/quote]er, sorry. beg to differ. most of the places elisa marques has been closing down in ceará have nothing to do with **** prostitution.
[QUOTE=Bubba Boy]You see that why I don't like the place, I like hardcore favelada chics![/QUOTE]I understand. That is why you are a Rio icon on ISG.
Fellow Hunters,
Going to Sao Paulo and staying near Congonhas airport, would like a nice escort to visit the hotel and avoid the termas, etc. Any help would be great.
Tart Hunter.
[QUOTE=Tart Hunter]Fellow Hunters,
Going to Sao Paulo and staying near Congonhas airport, would like a nice escort to visit the hotel and avoid the termas, etc. Any help would be great.
Tart Hunter.[/QUOTE]
Most of the free-lance escorts will attend in Guarulhos but they will ask for a taxi fare (habitually R$50).
This being said, there are however garotas who live in Guarulhos. Among them I know
Duda Rosa (11) 9826-6922 R$ 150 (She is a morena)
Vanessa Goes (11) 8284-5575 R$ 130
Carol Sampaio (11) 6254-9232/ (11) 7014-9723 R$ 200
Check this site for more info:
[url]http://servicos-adultos-sexo.vivastreet.com.br/acompanhante-erotico+guarulhos/acompanhante-em-guarulhos-com-excelente-local-proprio/25550173[/url]
[QUOTE=Prosal]I understand. That is why you are a Rio icon on ISG.[/QUOTE]
Prosal, whether you realize it or not, you are an icon as well.
[QUOTE=Prosal]I understand. That is why you are a Rio icon on ISG.[/QUOTE]
Unbelievable, Prosal actually gave me a compliment, or at least I think it was, I am not so bright with these things!
[QUOTE=Mangera]Prosal, whether you realize it or not, you are an icon as well.[/QUOTE]
With all is pro attitude towards FSU we can even call him a Russian icon! :)
[QUOTE=Sui Generis]Most of the free-lance escorts will attend in Guarulhos but they will ask for a taxi fare (habitually R$50).
This being said, there are however garotas who live in Guarulhos. Among them I know
Duda Rosa (11) 9826-6922 R$ 150 (She is a morena)
Vanessa Goes (11) 8284-5575 R$ 130
Carol Sampaio (11) 6254-9232/ (11) 7014-9723 R$ 200
Check this site for more info:
[url]http://servicos-adultos-sexo.vivastreet.com.br/acompanhante-erotico+guarulhos/acompanhante-em-guarulhos-com-excelente-local-proprio/25550173[/url][/QUOTE]
Nice info to know and thank you for that but he said he is going to stay near Gorgonhas airport not Guarulhos.
Oups my mistake...
I didn't pay enough attention to the fact that he was speaking of Congonhas.
A couple of years ago there was in that are Bahamas Club and Privê do Hector II. Unfortunately Tart Hunter doesn't seem interested by this kind of places (There is near the airport a good clínica : Clínica Cherry).
I was mislead by the fact that he was asking escorts for Congonhas (thinking about Guarulhos) while virtually every escorts will gladly go there without problems. Habitually when somebody ask a question about escorts (or any kind of venues) near an airport they mean Cumbica (Guarulhos) because it's a little bit far from the city
By all means it's a strange question because he just have to call any escorts on a serious site. Anyways, the info is there for those who will eventually need an escort near Guarulhos....
[QUOTE=Sui Generis]With all is pro attitude towards FSU we can even call him a Russian icon! :)[/QUOTE]Or a Brazilian iconoclast. or a frog. Or whatever you want.
Hello, Board Members,
Wanted to say thanks one more time for the good infos on my last stay in SP and Rio in June. I am staying again at a Hotel near Congonhas Airport. On my last trip I had the chance to check on the clinicas in Campo Belo which are a nice place to relax after a hard day of work.
I am Friday evening and all day Saturday off. Meaning I can go Friday for a bunch off drinks without having to worry about the next day
Are there any clubs near the airport which can be reached by taxi which are nice and not to expensive?
Regards
Ecoquest
Hi all,
Supplementing normal P4P efforts, I like to use the internet to hook up with nonpros. Could anyone tell me if brazilcupid is worth anything? Other sites I should be considering?
Will be going soon, I promise to contribute.
Thanks,
Lex
Hi fellow mongers,
I will have my first trip to brasil in December. I will be flying to sao paolo. After a few days in SP I plan to go to Rio. Any suggestion which hotel to stay to check out clinicas in SP bearing in mind that I will be total stranger with no portugese skill. I wish to make a booking from now.
Many thanks for your advises
Hi,
Yesterday I got off early so after having two cervecas I went by taxi to the clinica cherry. I recieved a nice welcome sad done in the entry room where 4 brasilian guys where waiting on their favorite girls. A big tv with menue of the girls was there aswell. I choose MAYSA really pretty good looking girl. As she was busy when I got there I drank two more beers until she was free.
I took a one hour session with here and she was worth the money. All started up with a BJ without condom and the rest was pretty good aswell. All in all a very pleasent experience which I can recommt to anyone staying near conhongas airport. I paid for the 2 beers 5 reales so all cost inklsuive 175 reales for 1 hour good sex with a 9 rating girl and an extra 30 minutes drinking beers with nice brasileros which we had a lot of fun and laughts.
So check it out and find out for yourself.
[url]http://www.clinicacherry.com.br[/url]
Regards,
Ecoquest
I've done OK with BrazilCupid in SP (fee-based) and so-so with POF.com (free) over the past few months. I think most of the men who use those sites are based out side of Brazil, so if you are in-country you have a better chance of getting a reply and hooking up.
If your Portuguese is limited or rough (like me), then it is definitely a good way to connect with girls who have English (from basic to fluent).
But like all on-line dating. It is a numbers game. For every 10 email's sent to women on these sites, I usually get 1 reply.
Mr. True
[QUOTE=Lex Lector]Hi all,
Supplementing normal P4P efforts, I like to use the internet to hook up with nonpros. Could anyone tell me if brazilcupid is worth anything? Other sites I should be considering?
Will be going soon, I promise to contribute.
Thanks,
Lex[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ecoquest]Hello, Board Members,
Wanted to say thanks one more time for the good infos on my last stay in SP and Rio in June. I am staying again at a Hotel near Congonhas Airport. On my last trip I had the chance to check on the clinicas in Campo Belo which are a nice place to relax after a hard day of work.
I am Friday evening and all day Saturday off. Meaning I can go Friday for a bunch off drinks without having to worry about the next day
Are there any clubs near the airport which can be reached by taxi which are nice and not to expensive?
Regards
Ecoquest[/QUOTE]Do you mind to tell me about your experience /cost of hotel you choose to stay?
Thanks
[QUOTE=SailorSailor]Do you mind to tell me about your experience /cost of hotel you choose to stay?
Thanks[/QUOTE]Hello Sailor,
I to get to Sao Paulo only on Bussiness Trips and as our Agents Office is not so far from Congonhas Airport and I need to fly within the country once in a while this is the area where I stay.
I can not tell you if the Hotels a girl friendly as I have not tried it yet. I usually stay at the.
[url]http://www.campobeloplaza.com.br/[/url] VERY BAD WIFI INTERNET CONNECTION
[url]http://portugues.sonesta.com/SaoPaulo/index.cfm?fa=gettinghere.home[/url] FAST INTERNET
The prices are about 120 reales a night
In Rio I made a very bad experience with the Hotel Merlin [url]http://www.hotelmerlin.com.br/[/url] the rooms a really old and service is below standart plus they charge a heavy girl fee. I brought twice girls from balcony and had to pay 80 to 90 reales visitors fee.....i wont go back there and it should be avoided.
As I am off tommorow I will try to make some experience tonight in SP besides the clinicas....wish me luck
regards
ecoquest
I will be in Sao Paulo near the Guarulhos airport. I'm staying at the Marriott. Does anyone have a recommendation of any English speaking girls that will come to the hotel? Do you think the Marriott will give me a problem if a girl shows up?
I'm a little nervous about leaving the hotel on my own in a taxi, because I do not know how to speak Portuguese.
Thanks for any advice you could give.
[QUOTE=Ecoquest]Hello Sailor,
I to get to Sao Paulo only on Bussiness Trips and as our Agents Office is not so far from Congonhas Airport and I need to fly within the country once in a while this is the area where I stay.
I can not tell you if the Hotels a girl friendly as I have not tried it yet. I usually stay at the.
[url]http://www.campobeloplaza.com.br/[/url] VERY BAD WIFI INTERNET CONNECTION
[url]http://portugues.sonesta.com/SaoPaulo/index.cfm?fa=gettinghere.home[/url] FAST INTERNET
The prices are about 120 reales a night
In Rio I made a very bad experience with the Hotel Merlin [url]http://www.hotelmerlin.com.br/[/url] the rooms a really old and service is below standart plus they charge a heavy girl fee. I brought twice girls from balcony and had to pay 80 to 90 reales visitors fee.....i wont go back there and it should be avoided.
As I am off tommorow I will try to make some experience tonight in SP besides the clinicas....wish me luck
regards
ecoquest[/QUOTE]Thanks for your reply. Hope you get what you look for tonight.)) wish I was there as well.
[QUOTE=El Greco]Nice info to know and thank you for that but he said he is going to stay near Gorgonhas airport not Guarulhos.[/QUOTE]This is a great link. I don't see the prices or the girls that you mention.
Any recommendations for girls that speak English? Or are there any girls that would go for dinner and then back to the hotel?
Thanks,
[QUOTE=Ecoquest]Hello Sailor,
I to get to Sao Paulo only on Bussiness Trips and as our Agents Office is not so far from Congonhas Airport and I need to fly within the country once in a while this is the area where I stay.
I can not tell you if the Hotels a girl friendly as I have not tried it yet. I usually stay at the.
[url]http://www.campobeloplaza.com.br/[/url] VERY BAD WIFI INTERNET CONNECTION
[url]http://portugues.sonesta.com/SaoPaulo/index.cfm?fa=gettinghere.home[/url] FAST INTERNET
The prices are about 120 reales a night
In Rio I made a very bad experience with the Hotel Merlin [url]http://www.hotelmerlin.com.br/[/url] the rooms a really old and service is below standart plus they charge a heavy girl fee. I brought twice girls from balcony and had to pay 80 to 90 reales visitors fee.....i wont go back there and it should be avoided.
As I am off tommorow I will try to make some experience tonight in SP besides the clinicas....wish me luck
regards
ecoquest[/QUOTE]About the Hotel cost I ment of course about 120 EUROS in Reales about 260.
[QUOTE=Todayisnice]I will be in Sao Paulo near the Guarulhos airport. I'm staying at the Marriott. Does anyone have a recommendation of any English speaking girls that will come to the hotel? Do you think the Marriott will give me a problem if a girl shows up?
I'm a little nervous about leaving the hotel on my own in a taxi, because I do not know how to speak Portuguese.
Thanks for any advice you could give.[/QUOTE]The Marriott is nearly opposite the airport but by RTFF it looks there is nothing around (also physically, the hotel stands out in the "desert") or in the proximity.
Taking a taxi downtown is not a mission impossible, the hotel staff can instruct the taxi driver (I have never found tricky ones) to where you have to go, but you have to have clear ideas on your destination.
A warning has to be given: it is not unusual that some moto mounted gang might stop vehicles on their way to the airporto to rob the occupants. Targeting foreigners, of course. Not extremely frequent but a possibility. I don't have records of taxis being stopped.
I will be visiting SP within 2 weeks. It is my first time to South America and I totally can't speak any portuguese.
I know some of the answers of my questions in the forum. But I went back 20 pages and most of them were full of non-sense arguments.
My 1st question is the place I shall stay. I want to stay in a rather safe place but close to mongering scene.
2nd question: which places can you advice for mongering? If possible can you advice names of clubs.
3rd question: I am 28 yo guy. How easy is it to bond with freebies? As Brazil is a fast developing country my techniques which work pretty good in SE Asia won't work. Giving hope of marriage in Phils or Thai will transfer you to bed 80% of the time. But I am sure I have spend more effort here. Which placese I shall go to try my chance with newbies before spending money for pussies
Thanks right now.
I'm also visiting Sao Paulo next week. I'm wondering the same thing as Berkonal and also, I was wondering if anybody could recommend a girl from a clinic or termas that you just see recently. Some details on the looks, please. Thanks!
[QUOTE=Smcruisin]I'm also visiting Sao Paulo next week. I'm wondering the same thing as Berkonal and also, I was wondering if anybody could recommend a girl from a clinic or termas that you just see recently. Some details on the looks, please. Thanks![/QUOTE]
Guys, these kind of questions are to vague!!!!
What type of girl are you looking for? Blonde, brunette, redhair, slim, tall, short, with braces, black, nissei, PSE, GFE, etc, etc. Without a minimum of requirements it's impossible to reply. São Paulo is a very big city, so virtually you can find anything that can suit your taste(s)...but forget it you won't find any termas.
Book an hotel in Jardim, it's a safe place for gringos. From there take a taxi to clinics thar are well reviewed like Palms, Cherry, Kin. There's always one or two girls speaking fluently English there.
Good luck and happy hobbying.
You got the point. As a long term travelling in Asia I forgot Brazil is a country with lots of mixed races. Personally i want brunette (blakcs are not my type at all) with good looking (Who wants bad looking tough lol)
What is the general procedure in those clinics. Is there a line-up. And what shall be the damage for me.
For the discos for freebies or semi-freebies where shall i go. As i will stay for a week term I will have chance to try my chances.
I know the saying " if you can't score in Brazil then you can't score anywhere".
BTW Thanks for the replies.
[QUOTE=Sui Generis]Guys, these kind of questions are to vague!
What type of girl are you looking for? Blonde, brunette, redhair, slim, tall, short, with braces, black, nissei, PSE, GFE, etc, etc. Without a minimum of requirements it's impossible to reply. São Paulo is a very big city, so virtually you can find anything that can suit your taste(s)...but forget it you won't find any termas.
Book an hotel in Jardim, it's a safe place for gringos. From there take a taxi to clinics thar are well reviewed like Palms, Cherry, Kin. There's always one or two girls speaking fluently English there.
Good luck and happy hobbying.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Smcruisin]. Some details on the looks, please. Thanks![/QUOTE]
Some RTFF, please.
I didn't really specify because I don't usually go for specific looks. I like slim waisted girls with bubble butts and cute face. Could be white, morena, or black.
Do the girls in clinic give GFE services and usually for how much? I'm planning to stay around Vila Mariana.
[QUOTE=Smcruisin]I didn't really specify because I don't usually go for specific looks. I like slim waisted girls with bubble butts and cute face. Could be white, morena, or black.
Do the girls in clinic give GFE services and usually for how much? I'm planning to stay around Vila Mariana.[/QUOTE]
Vila Mariana is a decent location. From there it's easy to go dowtown (or Jardim) either by taxi or by subway. You're not too far from Paulista Avenue.
The girls give GFE services. Like anything else YMMV (your mileage may vary) applies here.
If you're in Vila Mariana you mus visit (at least once) one of the best privê in town: The Redway. R$90 for an hour. GFE service included. Few rooms in the privê. There's a big room in the front which is very good but the shower is outside the room. There's another room in the back of the house. That one is shitty but the shower is in the room.
It's located in Rua Machado de Assis near the Santa Rosa subway station.
[QUOTE=Berkonal]
What is the general procedure in those clinics. Is there a line-up. And what shall be the damage for me.
For the discos for freebies or semi-freebies where shall i go. As i will stay for a week term I will have chance to try my chances.
.[/QUOTE]
I'm going to bed. I'll come back tomorrow with an answer to your questions
[QUOTE=Berkonal]
What is the general procedure in those clinics. Is there a line-up. And what shall be the damage for me.
For the discos for freebies or semi-freebies where shall i go. As i will stay for a week term I will have chance to try my chances.
.[/QUOTE]
Clinics: It depends when you go to the clinic. There may have a line-up between 5pm and 8pm. Most of the grils working in clinics are between 7 and 8.5. You may find sometimes several 9 or if you're very lucky even a 10.
These places are safe and the staff working there is very sympathic. All the towels are clean (wrapped) and they will give a little soap bar or there's liquid soap in the showers.
Concerning the night life in Sp., there's so many things to do that I had trouble to give a short answer. Besides Itaim Bibi, Moema and Vila Olimpa, the best place to have fun (listening to music and dancing) is Vila Madalena and Pinheiros.
I wont give you the name of the best places in Vila Olimpa or Itaim Bibi because you can easily find them on the Net.
THe best places in Vila madalena and Pinheiros are:
Vila madalena (Unha de Gato)
[url]http://www.barunhadegato.com.br/[/url]
Dolores Bars
[url]http://www.doloresbar.com.br/[/url]
(This place is nice is you’re into Black music)
Grazie a Dio!
[url]http://www.grazieadio.com.br/[/url]
Bleecker
[url]http://www.bleeckerst.com.br/Bleecker/Menu.html[/url]
Enfarta Madalena
[url]http://www.enfarta.com/2010/[/url]
XCaret
[url]http://www.xcaretbar.com.br/[/url]
Pinheiros
Joy Club
[url]http://www.joyclub.com.br/joy/[/url]
Pink Elefant Club
[url]http://www.pinkelephantclub.com.br/[/url]
Bubulounge
[url]http://www.bubulounge.com.br/[/url]
The best place to listen to jazz is in Moema (Bourbon Street).
[QUOTE=Smcruisin]
Do the girls in clinic give GFE services and usually for how much? I'm planning to stay around Vila Mariana.[/QUOTE]
In most cases they do, like cuddling and kissing before and after the deed.
Usually if you start with a massage, after a while she'll get into a GFE status and it all goes from there.
Can't vouch for 100% of course, but the GFE chances are pretty much high.
[QUOTE=Berkonal]You got the point. As a long term travelling in Asia I forgot Brazil is a country with lots of mixed races. Personally I want brunette (blakcs are not my type at all) with good looking (Who wants bad looking tough LOL)
What is the general procedure in those clinics. Is there a line-up. And what shall be the damage for me.
BTW Thanks for the replies.[/QUOTE]Clinicas usually have a room where the pictures of the girls are displayed, 4-5 shots where not much is left to imagination, even if not full nude. Basic info as age and sizes are given too. If you talk to the receptionists (usually girls, I know sounds weird, but. They all know what the deal of clinica is!) you might ask for some recommendation. Not as detailed as in Asia where you can be quite straight with mama- or papa-san's.
In general they thend to separate the clinica/massage from what the girls gives as an additional service (the whol massage fee is always to be paid cash to the girl).
The clinica provides room and facilities
This is mainly done to avoid LE interferences.
What happens in the room between you and the massage provider has nothing to do with the establishment. Pretty much clear, right?
The photos are usually showing a red or green magnet and that pretty much clarifies whether she is free or not.
Unfortuantely the website of the clinicas tend not to show anymnore the photo gallery of the girls (again I suspect to avoid LE)
Photos are pretty much accurate and photoshop is mildly used.
Never got a bad surprise, other than a differnt height ad a couple of kg moreeanuts!
You make up your mind and communicate the name to the receptionist
In a few minutes you will be taken to the room by the receptionist.
Take a shower to kill time (and bring things forward) as the girl will not appear before 5-10 minutes.
The rest is pretty much. Usual!
Have fun and report back with girl name.
How is the formule 1 on consolacao? not looking for breakfast, dinner just a room that is roach free. Also how is the area when you walk directly 3 blocks any direction?
How are the rooms? Clean or mildew smelling?
Guys thanks for detailed explanations. It is all helpful.
After my visit I will give a detailed report with a newbie point of view.
Besides I want to ask how much shall I dance in the clubs. As I am retarded when it comes to dance. And from what I see on tv the brazilians are like dance machines I don't want to stand in the middle and make weirdo moves like "old robot dance".
Sure my dance will attract some smiles but not in the sense I am looking for.
[QUOTE=Auriflama]How is the formule 1 on consolacao? not looking for breakfast, dinner just a room that is roach free. Also how is the area when you walk directly 3 blocks any direction?
How are the rooms? Clean or mildew smelling?[/QUOTE]
Formula 1 hotels offer very basic accomodation. Rooms are sparsely furnished. To be honest, I don't even know if they are girl-firendly. As I have never book a room there I cannot say more. I know however that a couple a garota de programa live and received precisely in that hotel. Even if Formula One hotel offer very economic rooms they are roaches free and clean. For a small extra you can obtain wi-fi.
I know visually the district where it's located and I've passed several times in front of that hotel. Consolação is not the trendiest street in SP but, on the other hand you're not far away from Paulista and some good streets like Augusta or Bela Cintra where you can find good restaurants. It's not far from Centro (downtown); you can even walk the distance.
There are two privês on Consolação near the hotel (Relax Bar and another one which I forgot the name).
Regarding Formula 1 hotel, Sui Generis was right. It's a economical place that is well run, and clean. Pre-packaged in every respect, even the food and beverage items available in the lobby. I have only stayed at the Formula 1 on Sao Joao (slightly closer to Centro).
Anyways, I would stay in a good flat. These places are nicer, have very good restaurants (definitely important if it's raining, or have a guest and you want to stay in, etc), have a better breakfast, usually have a gym and pool, and are usually in good neighborhoods. The noise from Consolacao would be fairly high.
Try transamericaflats.com.br - I like the one on Alameda Lorena. Google flat service in Sao Paulo.
[QUOTE=Papae Noel]Regarding Formula 1 hotel, Sui Generis was right. It's a economical place that is well run, and clean. Pre-packaged in every respect, even the food and beverage items available in the lobby. I have only stayed at the Formula 1 on Sao Joao (slightly closer to Centro).
Anyways, I would stay in a good flat. These places are nicer, have very good restaurants (definitely important if it's raining, or have a guest and you want to stay in, etc), have a better breakfast, usually have a gym and pool, and are usually in good neighborhoods. The noise from Consolacao would be fairly high.
Try transamericaflats.com.br - I like the one on Alameda Lorena. Google flat service in Sao Paulo.[/QUOTE]Eating is not a issue since I will bringing my own food. transamerica flats is over priced. I am just looking for a fair price and I dont need all the extra stuff.
[QUOTE=Auriflama]Eating is not a issue since I will bringing my own food. transamerica flats is over priced. I am just looking for a fair price and I dont need all the extra stuff.[/QUOTE]
In that case Auriflama I wouild suggest hotels like the Real Castilha if you don't mind to be downtown. It's not expensive and on their Web site they list other hotels that are very affordable.
You can have a room at Hotel Plaza (Avenida São João) for R$65!
[url]http://www.buenashoteis.com.br/real.php[/url]
[QUOTE=Sui Generis]In that case Auriflama I wouild suggest hotels like the Real Castilha if you don't mind to be downtown. It's not expensive and on their Web site they list other hotels that are very affordable.
You can have a room at Hotel Plaza (Avenida São João) for R$65!
[url]http://www.buenashoteis.com.br/real.php[/url][/QUOTE]Thanks but no way will I stay downtown, Too close to cracklandia. It seems its going to be a tough task to find a affordable hotel in a decent area so I just have to keep doing research. What do you think about hotels in the liberdade area? I see a bunch of hotels around that area. Also the rua frei caneca area there is a assortment of hotels there.
[QUOTE=Auriflama]Thanks but no way will I stay downtown, Too close to cracklandia. It seems its going to be a tough task to find a affordable hotel in a decent area so I just have to keep doing research. What do you think about hotels in the liberdade area? I see a bunch of hotels around that area. Also the rua frei caneca area there is a assortment of hotels there.[/QUOTE]
As the regular members on this board already know, I always stay in Moema which is one of the nicest and safest in Sampa.
Liberdade (the Japanese bairro) is a safe place and at a walking distance from Catedral da Sá (and Praça João Mendes). Lot of restaurants, metro stations and a lot of motels (some garotas received only there).
Another bairro with affordable hotels is Vila Mariana. The only problem is that there a not too much good restaurants in that district.
This is a new site from Brazil (São Paulo) when you came to Brasil, please chek that girls.
[url]www.amorvirtual.com.br[/url]
This is a great option to you!
Enjoy in São Paulo.
Thanks a lot for everyone.
Hi friends,
I am new to Sao Paulo and would have around 4 hrs in Sao Paulo on Saturday from 10 am to 1400 hrs nothing to do. Is there any massage center nearby where I can use the facility and come back to the airport. I do not know portugese at all so it has be absolutely safe.
Can someone suggest something else please.
Thanks,
Sandy
Hi friends,
Any clinicas near the Guaralhos airport which are safe?
Thanks,
Sandy
Hi,
I am going to ask for a location to book my hotel. When I checked booking and agoda I see that the good hotels are in an area called Itaim Bibi.
Is that place close to Paulista.
I don't want to stay in super expensive ones but in a comfortable one. My budget is around 120-130 USD per night.
So can you suggest me a hotel which is close to bars, shopping places and girls ofcourse.
Thanks in advance
Hi Sui Generis,
Any specific hotel you suggest?
[QUOTE=Sui Generis]As the regular members on this board already know, I always stay in Moema which is one of the nicest and safest in Sampa.
Liberdade (the Japanese bairro) is a safe place and at a walking distance from Catedral da Sá (and Praça João Mendes). Lot of restaurants, metro stations and a lot of motels (some garotas received only there).
Another bairro with affordable hotels is Vila Mariana. The only problem is that there a not too much good restaurants in that district.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Lean Sandy]Hi friends,
I am new to Sao Paulo and would have around 4 hrs in Sao Paulo on Saturday from 10 am to 1400 hrs nothing to do. Is there any massage center nearby where I can use the facility and come back to the airport. I do not know portugese at all so it has be absolutely safe.
Can someone suggest something else please.
Thanks,
Sandy[/QUOTE]
Sandy,
I'll go straight to the point. The fact that you are only four hours in SP (and moreover between 10am to 2pm) plys definitely against you.
A couple of years ago there were still decent venues in Guarulhos like for example Clínica Clean Life (which was located on rua Francesco Gonzaga Vasconcellos).
Nowadays the only (almost respectable) clinica I know in that region is Glamour Massagens.
Glamour Massagens
Adress: 3176 Av. Marechal Humberto de Alencar Castelo Branco, - Gopoúva - Guarulhos - SP
Phone: (11) 6422-1986 / 7622-4191
The negative points about this place are
1) Few garotas
2) Showers are disgusting
3) R$100 for the garota (according to me it's steep for the quality of the place)
4) I don't even know if they are open so early in the day
As an alternative I would suggest two boates : Café Maça or café Monik American Bar. The only problem is that they open around 7pm.
There are several privês in Guarulhos but the fact that you don't speak Portuguese is not a good option.
[QUOTE=Berkonal]Hi,
I am going to ask for a location to book my hotel. When I checked booking and agoda I see that the good hotels are in an area called Itaim Bibi.
Is that place close to Paulista.
I don't want to stay in super expensive ones but in a comfortable one. My budget is around 120-130 USD per night.
So can you suggest me a hotel which is close to bars, shopping places and girls ofcourse.
Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]
Itaim Bibi is not close to Paulista. On the other hand (and that's the bright side of it) you're closer to Brooklin where there are a lot of very very good clinicas. In Itaim Bibi you located in one of the best district in terms of nightlife (non-pro) and restaurants.
Here's a partial list of hotels in Itaim Bibi
Hotel Radisson Faria Lima
Av. Cidade Jardim, 625 - Itaim Bibi
F.: (11) 3093-5960
[url]www.radisson.com/saopaulobr[/url]
Hotel Meliá Jardim Europa
R. João Cachoeira, 107 - Itaim Bibi
F.: (11) 3702-9600 / 0800-703-3399
[url]www.solmelia.com[/url]
Staybridge Hotel Suítes São Paulo
R. Joaquim Floriano, 466 - Itaim Bibi
F.: (11) 3706-6600 / 0800-775-7777
[url]www.staybridge.com.br[/url]
Hotel Meliá Confort Itaim
R. Manuel Guedes, 320 - Itaim Bibi
F.: (11) 3066-2699
[url]www.meliaconfortitaim.solmelia.com[/url]
Hotel Clarion Jardim Europa
R. Jerônimo da Veiga, 248 - Itaim Bibi
F.: (11) 3702-9000
[url]www.atlanticahotels.com.br[/url]
Hotel Gran Estanconfort Itaim
R. Joaõ Cachoeira, 292 - Itaim Bibi
F.: (11) 3704-6000
[url]www.estanplaza.com.br[/url]
Hotel Meliá Confort Jesuíno Arruda
R. Jusuíno Arruda, 806 - Itaim Bibi
F.: (11) 3704-4400 / 0800-703-3399
[url]www.solmelia.com[/url]
Hotel Meliá Confort Iguatemi
R. Iguatemi, 150 - Itaim Bibi
F.: (11) 3704-5100 / 0800-703-3399
[url]www.trypiguatemi.solmelia.com[/url]
These hotels (above) are just a little bit over 150$
If you want something less expensive I'd suggest something like the following ones
[url]http://www.fellerhotelaria.com.br/[/url] (rooms start at 130$)
The following hotels are under 130$
[url]http://www.accorhotels.com/pt/hotel-3206-mercure-sao-paulo-vila-olimpia/index.shtml[/url]
[url]http://www.accorhotels.com/pt/hotel-2128-mercure-sao-paulo-funchal/index.shtml[/url]
[url]http://www.accorhotels.com/pt/hotel-2845-mercure-sao-paulo-itaim-bibi/index.shtml[/url]
[url]http://www.accorhotels.com/pt/hotel-2998-mercure-sao-paulo-the-world/index.shtml[/url]
Before I bought my comdo in São Paulo I used to saty at these hotels and I can vouch for them.
[QUOTE=SailorSailor]Hi Sui Generis,
Any specific hotel you suggest?[/QUOTE]I surmise that you're asking me this question about Liberdade, am I right?
In that case Gloria Plaza Hotel is a nice spot I would recommend.The only problem is that there are only few rooms available (32).
[url]http://www.gloriaplazahotel.com.br/index2.php[/url]
Hotel Pierre, 305 rua Bueno de Andrade is very cheap...but this is a very very basic hotel.
Hotel Akasaka is a little bit better in terms of cleanliness and rooms (single) start at R$99.
[url]http://www.akasakahotel.com.br/?page=index[/url]
These are the hotels I know (but there are many more).
I have been reading about sao paolo for a few weeks and have seen that you have a deep knowledge about this ground. I will be staying in sao paola for 2 nights before going to rio..so any place safe/ medum priced/easy to reach and close to clinicas for a total newbie is ok.
[QUOTE=Sui Generis]I surmise that you're asking me this question about Liberdade, am I right?
In that case Gloria Plaza Hotel is a nice spot I would recommend.The only problem is that there are only few rooms available (32).
[url]http://www.gloriaplazahotel.com.br/index2.php[/url]
Hotel Pierre, 305 rua Bueno de Andrade is very cheap...but this is a very very basic hotel.
Hotel Akasaka is a little bit better in terms of cleanliness and rooms (single) start at R$99.
[url]http://www.akasakahotel.com.br/?page=index[/url]
These are the hotels I know (but there are many more).[/QUOTE]
Hey guys,
I am going to be passing Sunday in SP near the end of Avenida Paulista.
Are there any boates that are open on Sundays besides Kilt that is good and close by?
[QUOTE=SailorSailor]I have been reading about sao paolo for a few weeks and have seen that you have a deep knowledge about this ground. I will be staying in sao paola for 2 nights before going to rio..so any place safe/ medum priced/easy to reach and close to clinicas for a total newbie is ok.[/QUOTE]
It depends of what are your plans. You're staying 2 days in São Paulo.
Do you intend to visit the city? Masp, Edificio Copan, Avenida Paulista, Museu do Ipiranga, Banespa, Vale do Anhangabáu, Catedral da Sá, Estação da Luz, Pinacoteca, Viaduto do chá, and so on...
If it's the case, I think that an hotel in Jardim (or even in Liberdade - see the links to the hotel in that bairro in my former posts) would be appropriate. However I have to add that clinics do not proliferate in Jardim (there is a good privê there though: 480 Al. Jaú).
There is (or was, I'm not sure if it's still open) a clinic in Jardim: Pamplona Massagnes on 724 rua Pamplona.
On the other hand, if you intend to spend your two days visiting clinics (because it seems that is you game of predilection) then I would rather consider renting an hotel in Itaim Bibi or Vila Olimpia (see hotel links on another recent post). There's a lot of good (even very good clinics) in those bairros and or not too far from Campo belo, Novo Brooklin, Moema where you have also a good selection of clinics. In those bairros the night life is also fabulous and more safer than the other bairros closer to Centro.
[QUOTE=Orca11]Hey guys,
I am going to be passing Sunday in SP near the end of Avenida Paulista.
Are there any boates that are open on Sundays besides Kilt that is good and close by?[/QUOTE]
Sunday is the worst day of the week because almost all garotas stay with their family, children, husband, boyfriend, female lover, pimp or whatever....
There is aprivê in Moema which is open 24h every days of the week: Privê Eucaliptus but it's quite average.
I was hoping someone could help me out with information on how to get in touch with Brazilian porn stars. I have been several times and got "phone numbers" from abusa.com and some of the girls websites but the numbers don't seem to work. Can anyone help? I was trying to reach Pamela Butt, Fabiane Thompson Mayara Shelson among others.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
About six months before visiting to brazil, I signed up for brazil Cupid.com.
I am in my upper 30's and just an average looking guy. However, I received a large number of emails from good looking younger girls. I exchanged hotmail messages with several of them. Eventually I was down to three that showed the most interest and seemed normal.
When I arrived in Sao Paulo on Sunday. That same day we made arrangements to meet that day. She picked me up at the hotel. She took me to a museum. We went to dinner afterwards. She dropped me back at my hotel.
The next day we just instant messages. Tuesday she asked if she could come by the hotel. We had a drink and talked. Then she asked if she could kiss me. We passionately kissed. She went home after a little longer.
On Thursday she said she had a surprise for me. She picked me up and took me to a different hotel. I though that was weird. We both signed into the hotel. We went to the room. When she opened the door I saw rose petals on the floor and a bottle of wine chilling. We ended up spending the night. We had sex every which way. Great BJ. It was an amaIng GFE.
Definately not like at home with the wife! Of course this girl doesn't know about the wife.
I have one more week here. I am looking forward to a few more great nights before I head back to the USA.
Thanks for reply. 2 days is a short period to do all. I would rather stick to investigating clinicas only.
[QUOTE=Sui Generis]It depends of what are your plans. You're staying 2 days in São Paulo.
Do you intend to visit the city? Masp, Edificio Copan, Avenida Paulista, Museu do Ipiranga, Banespa, Vale do Anhangabáu, Catedral da Sá, Estação da Luz, Pinacoteca, Viaduto do chá, and so on...
If it's the case, I think that an hotel in Jardim (or even in Liberdade - see the links to the hotel in that bairro in my former posts) would be appropriate. However I have to add that clinics do not proliferate in Jardim (there is a good privê there though: 480 Al. Jaú).
There is (or was, I'm not sure if it's still open) a clinic in Jardim: Pamplona Massagnes on 724 rua Pamplona.
On the other hand, if you intend to spend your two days visiting clinics (because it seems that is you game of predilection) then I would rather consider renting an hotel in Itaim Bibi or Vila Olimpia (see hotel links on another recent post). There's a lot of good (even very good clinics) in those bairros and or not too far from Campo belo, Novo Brooklin, Moema where you have also a good selection of clinics. In those bairros the night life is also fabulous and more safer than the other bairros closer to Centro.[/QUOTE]
They are open everyday. Yes, Sunday is really not so busy, but if you take your time, you will find what you are looking for.
[QUOTE=Orca11]Hey guys,
I am going to be passing Sunday in SP near the end of Avenida Paulista.
Are there any boates that are open on Sundays besides Kilt that is good and close by?[/QUOTE]
[quote=voyajer1]they are open everyday. yes, sunday is really not so busy, but if you take your time, you will find what you are looking for.[/quote]
also, tell the guy at the door that you want to go in first to take a peek (quero olhar primeiro), before you pay the entrance fee, which can range from 10-20r and includes a beer/drink or 2.
if they won't let ya in for free to look, tell them you'll pay 5r for 1 beer/drink to enter, almost always works.
sometimes the places can be dead on sunday and you can waste a bit of cash paying entrance fees at various places and finding no garotas or no quality.
best to take a looksy first.
if they won't let ya in for a look first, i've found it relates directly to the deadness inside the boate.
try maison on augusta. sometimes good on sundays.
the doorman is a chubby guy named garcia. he speaks english, spanish, portuguese.
he'll tell ya the scoop there.
also, i find kilt a bit of a rip off, 60r just to get in.
pretty steep, especially for a sunday.
across the street from kilt is my love.
they'll always let ya in for a free look and sometimes the garotas are of similar quality as kilt.
if you decide to stay, you buy a drink for yourself, which costs about 25r.
at all these places, make sure you ask the drink prices for the garotas before you buy one.
sometimes a beer for them will only cost ya 5-10r but if they order a red bull or some other fancy drink, you could pay up to 60-70r just for their drink.
usually the garota earns half the drink price for herself, and obviously some of them will try to earn money quickly, ordering drinks on your dime.
there are plenty of cool garotas too, who have warned me of the prices, you just never know.
hope this helps,
have fun!!
I was on 'deep Augusta' this past Sunday. Got there apparently WAY too early at around 8:45pm. Checked out Night House and Maison for free but they were both dead in terms of talent. Got ripped off for 5R when Castelao would not let me look in without paying. Of course there was only 1 dark morena inside wearing street clothes which I was not interested in so I left after drinking my coca-cola. My last stop was Casaroa but the doorman told me there were no girls inside his place. None would arrive until after 11pm so I decided not to wait took the metro back to my hotel.
[QUOTE=Almotu]I was on 'deep Augusta' this past Sunday. Got there apparently WAY too early at around 8:45pm. Checked out Night House and Maison for free but they were both dead in terms of talent. Got ripped off for 5R when Castelao would not let me look in without paying. Of course there was only 1 dark morena inside wearing street clothes which I was not interested in so I left after drinking my coca-cola. My last stop was Casaroa but the doorman told me there were no girls inside his place. None would arrive until after 11pm so I decided not to wait took the metro back to my hotel.[/QUOTE]
Yep, Maison and Night House guys are cool.
Normally Garcia at Maison and Junhor (Junior) at Night House, both good guys.
I'll tell ya, Casarao on Thurs-Sat nights, show up at 11pm, sit at the bar, watch the garotas show up, thru about midnight.
Some good quality.
After about 2 AM a bunch of young Brasileiros show up and the place just gets too crowded.
Best time, 11pm til 2am.
I've met a nice group of garotas there.
My favorite boate on Augusta, more than Kilt or My Love.
Ya gotta expect Sunday to be kinda slow everywhere though.
Disfrute demais!!
Yep, I walked all the way to Nestor Pestana also but only Kilt was open on Sunday. My Love (Closed) and I think Skorpus a few store fronts down (spelling might be wrong) are the only clubs left in that area. Vagao Plaza and Ocean Club are no more.
[QUOTE=Almotu]Yep, I walked all the way to Nestor Pestana also but only Kilt was open on Sunday. My Love (Closed) and I think Skorpus a few store fronts down (spelling might be wrong) are the only clubs left in that area. Vagao Plaza and Ocean Club are no more.[/QUOTE]
That's all the clubs down there for now.
Love Story is just a short walk from there. After hours club.
Too late for me normally.
It's like an all night rave, can be fun, a couple guys on this forum really like it there, I'll probably check it out again soon.
In a few weeks, I will visit Sao Paulo for the first time. I have been to Brazil 4 times before, but never in SP. Most of the time, I will be with my Brazilian friends, but I will also have some days, where I will be on my own. I will be staying in 2 different areas. First is Ilhabela and after that, in Jundiaí.
Any advise for my "days alone".
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=Cata1974]In a few weeks, I will visit Sao Paulo for the first time. I have been to Brazil 4 times before, but never in SP. Most of the time, I will be with my Brazilian friends, but I will also have some days, where I will be on my own. I will be staying in 2 different areas. First is Ilhabela and after that, in Jundiaí.
Any advise for my "days alone".
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]
Concerning Jundiai is relatively easy to find garotas down there. Elitte's site has two garotas working in that town
[url]http://www.elitte.com.br/acompanhantes.php[/url]
The following indy receives in Jundiai
[url]http://www.sexlog.com.br/sexlog.p[/url]
hp?id=aline_gp_ksada
[url]http://alinegpksadajundiai.********.com/[/url]
Concerning Ilha Bela it's different: it's a place where you go on vacation (and to my knowledge there's no garotas receiving there), The only grota de proframa you may meet there are garotas de programe on vacation themselves. I knew a few of them having a condo down there but they're there to rest or with their family, boyfriend...or me!
Good luck and happy hobbying in Jundiai.
Cata1974
I've found this add for Ilhabela
[url]http://servicos-adultos-sexo.vivastreet.com.br/acompanhante-erotico+ilhabela/carol-mulata-23-anos-liberal--atende-com-data-e-hora-marc/25244557[/url]
Hey
I am finally here in Sao Paulo.
I have following questions.
1- Are there any places like casas that i can pick up girls for 3 or more hours. And what will be the damage?
2- For bomboa or cafe photo ? what will be the damage. in those clubs i guess there is no barfine. If there is how much shall i expect to pay for ?
3- Are there any guys who wants to hang out. Doesn't matter if he knows the place or not. If he knows it will be perfect but if he doesn't i guess we will find a way to handle the stuff.
4- I am staying in Mercure Paraiso. What places are there for me to hang out. Good clinicas, prives (casas), etc.
Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=Berkonal]Hey
I am finally here in Sao Paulo.
I have following questions.
1- Are there any places like casas that i can pick up girls for 3 or more hours. And what will be the damage?
2- For bomboa or cafe photo ? what will be the damage. in those clubs i guess there is no barfine. If there is how much shall i expect to pay for ?
3- Are there any guys who wants to hang out. Doesn't matter if he knows the place or not. If he knows it will be perfect but if he doesn't i guess we will find a way to handle the stuff.
4- I am staying in Mercure Paraiso. What places are there for me to hang out. Good clinicas, prives (casas), etc.
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]'
Yes, they are called clinicas o Prive' however. Average about 70-150R an hour. My fav... was Assahi across the river from the Hilton on unidas
Great Map:
[url]http://maps.google.com/?q=http://bitchmaps.com/kmz/sp.kmz[/url]
Have you tried reading this thread?
Since you are staying at my favorite hotel, I will give you the following tips. Use Google to find the addresses and such, I don't have to time to spell everything out for you. But there are 3 very affordable places that you can walk from the Mercure. Prices I am quoting is for cash money, if you pay by credit card or debit card they usually add 10%.
1) Bijin (prive) it's #82 but I forget the street name. Search GPGuia.net as well. They open I think 10am-10pm. prices start as low as 40R=30mins. Last couple of weeks, the lineup was about 8-10 girls. Many have tattoos but not totally skanks as you might expect for that cheap price.
2) Clinica Washi - on the same street - you'll have to confirm the address number though. Lineup IMO was not as great as Bijin but the rooms I think is a bit better. I saw around 4-6 girls in the lineup at any one time. 120R=60mins.
3) Redway Prive. You'll have to walk a bit further and it down(?) a hill so on the way back it's a climb! Lineup is 6-8 girls. Starts at noon until 10pm. 90R=60mins. Nice rooms with real beds. Very friendly staff.
American Center Massagem is close by as well on Rua do Paraiso. Again check Google and/or GPGuia.
Everyone has their own taste so you will just have to put on your comfortable walking shoes and see for yourself whether the talent is worth your P4P money. IMHO, these places are the alternative to the expensive nightclubs which have great atmosphere and hot women!
If you are on the other board, there is detailed public transportation to get to Connection VIP. This club is far away but they are a good promotion - before 7pm the entrance is only 40R (minimum consumption) after 7pm is still OK at 80R. Women quote start at 300R (probably can go down to 200R) plus 80R room fee. In comparison, Bomboa entrance is now 200R. Girls asking for 400-500R plus 100R for the room.
I can't afford to party that way anymore so I stick with the prives.
Hey Berkonal,
Welcome to Sampa. See my post and let me know if you are interested.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1043889&postcount=768[/url]
Hi Everyone!!!
A few weeks ago I was in Sampa again and I was working in the zone of Pompéia. So in the late afternoon I went to check the clinicas in that zone. I visited Clinica Aneesh, Clinica Shangri-la, and Clinica Shori. They are all in an area of 200 m. one from the other. The nicest house is Shangri.la, then Shori and then Aneesh. All of them have some nice ladies but Shangri-la is one step forward. All Clinicas have there own web site where you can have an idea of the house. Prices are from 80 to 150. I think there are a few other Clinicas in the zone but I couldn't check them.
Patrick1
Guys coming down for the Labor Day holiday, be prepared for limited talent this Monday and Tuesday. Sao Paulo beginning the business center, will most likely be observing this holiday. Might be a good idea to call ahead before venturing out.
Start making phone calls to your favorite GDPs to lock in a date for Tuesday evening.
Good Luck to all.
[QUOTE=Almotu]Guys coming down for the Labor Day holiday, be prepared for limited talent this Monday and Tuesday. Sao Paulo beginning the business center, will most likely be observing this holiday. Might be a good idea to call ahead before venturing out.
Start making phone calls to your favorite GDPs to lock in a date for Tuesday evening.
Good Luck to all.[/QUOTE]
And we will have to watch on TV the same boring parade...
I'm even ready to make phones call in order to reserve a session with my favorites garotas on dia dos finados!
Visited Kin this past Monday, at 5:30pm, the place was packed with patrons, I did see six ladies in the line up, my guess is second stringers as the first string were probably busy, and the other folks in the lobby were waiting.
I did choose one lady, good service, 140 Real. I looked for Hanna, she left Kin several months ago.
Today in SP was one of those great days that come along where everything goes just right.
I woke up after a great night's sleep with my girlfriend hugging on me and then attacking me with that Brazillian energy :)
She had to leave for work and out of the blue a garota pro and friend of mine called and said that she wanted to see me, "algo importante" (something important).
Tudo bem, I said, and we met a bit later for lunch.
I couldn't believe it.
After years of lending money to girls to help them out, which almnost always means it's a gift really, this garota handed me 200R and thanked me for the loan.
I was stunned.
Then to stun me even more, she went up to my apartment to play a bit and wouldn't accept any money afterwards.
Later on I went for a walk, stopped at one of those little corner stores to buy a phone card and working there was a beautiful lorinha (blonde girl).
I was having a lucky day, so I said to her as I was paying "que sorte conhecer uma modelo bela como voce numa loja assim"
(what luck meeting a beautiful model working in a store like this).
Long story short ... she gave me a big smile and a thank you and we chatted a bit, and I got her phone number to call her and meet up in the next few days.
Like I said, it's been a great day, and it's only 730PM.
Ate mais ... :)
Hi everyone,
Does someone here know of any good options (presumably clinicas or prives) that are open in the morning? I promise to report back if I am able to pursue anything interesting.
[QUOTE=Ricker]Today in SP was one of those great days that come along where everything goes just right.
I woke up after a great night's sleep with my girlfriend hugging on me and then attacking me with that Brazillian energy
She had to leave for work and out of the blue a garota pro and friend of mine called and said that she wanted to see me, "algo importante" (something important).
Tudo bem, I said, and we met a bit later for lunch.
I couldn't believe it.
After years of lending money to girls to help them out, which almnost always means it's a gift really, this garota handed me 200R and thanked me for the loan.
I was stunned.
Then to stun me even more, she went up to my apartment to play a bit and wouldn't accept any money afterwards.
Later on I went for a walk, stopped at one of those little corner stores to buy a phone card and working there was a beautiful lorinha (blonde girl).
I was having a lucky day, so I said to her as I was paying "que sorte conhecer uma modelo bela como voce numa loja assim"
(what luck meeting a beautiful model working in a store like this).
Long story short. She gave me a big smile and a thank you and we chatted a bit, and I got her phone number to call her and meet up in the next few days.
Like I said, it's been a great day, and it's only 730PM.
Ate mais.[/QUOTE]Good report, basic, honest, and looking forward to the sequel.
[QUOTE=Gfe Finder]Hi everyone,
Does someone here know of any good options (presumably clinicas or prives) that are open in the morning? I promise to report back if I am able to pursue anything interesting.[/QUOTE]
My understanding is they do not open before 11am
I will be in Sao paulo from tuesday till thursday will hang with Rovank.
Anyone else wants to hang out drop me a note.
As a matter of fact, I think Love Story info belongs to this thread (instead than Rio's):
Love Story. Rua Araujo 232 (with Avenida Ipiranga)
Centro Sao Paulo
Love Story, imho, is like Help but with good music, better looking girls and without tourists. And the important fact that, not all the girls are hookers.
Worth the visit. It's where all the girls from Cafe Photo, Bomboa, Kilt, and other clubs… end the night. Some looking for clients. Some just for fun.
Add to that a lot of trendy types, musicians, drug dealers, transvestites and regular patrons. Weird mix!
Best days: Monday (Segunda Feira) to Thursday (Quinta).
End-of-the-night point for prostitutes, rent boys and associated partygoers (but not strictly confined to this demographic), Love Story has developed quite an international reputation thanks to the celebrities who've staggered in and out of its doors.
Nick Cave regularly frequented it while living in Sao Paulo and British tech-house producers Layo & Bushwacka! named a track after a visit. Deafeningly loud electronic house music keeps the audience buzzed and hot, and more inspired patrons climb onto raised podiums to shake loose body parts around strip poles.
With two floors and numerous bars at which drinks will set you back R$15 each. At some point you'll likely have to broach the precarious subject of asking whether the person you're chatting up is, ahem, working or not.
Weekends can get busy, so you'll have to face every partygoer's usual quandry: How to arrive fashionably late—the party peaks between 4 a.m. and 5 a.m.—without risking an interminable wait in line.
And as someone reported correctly at the RJ thread, very close to the "Love Story" you have the "Kilt".
Kilt.
R. Nestor Pestana, 266
Center/Republica
A great club with great strip girls.
Map at: [url]http://www.kiltshows.com.br[/url]
More on the Kilt, borrowed from the TotalSP Guide:
[url]http://totalspguide.com/post/1194/Kilt/[/url]
Rumors say that after visiting a Scottish castle, Kilt's owner was so enamored she commissioned the construction of this weirdly out-of-place homage. The replica hosts something inside that's a world apart from fine Scottish heritage: a trademark stage act where girls swing sensually over the bar on decorated swings, while pretty, roaming girls use discreet and obvious tricks to literally grab your attention for a paid roll in the sack.
Sit at the bar on super-comfy leather-padded stools or take a low-lying table and sofa in front of the stage. Patrons include uber-touchy, old businessmen, thick-built soccer jocks with arms the size of your head, and non-descript folks like ourselves.
A can of beer will set you back R$22, but the first's free with the R$50 entrance ticket. When indulging in a private experience, one drink (Champagne or Amarula) for your lucky girl will set you back R$45, a room at a local hotel for a few hours will be about R$70, and the girl herself will run R$400.
Pricey!
Hi Guys,
Gone through tonnes on info on the sao paulo thread. Like to thank a lot of guys for their contributions. Ricker, Sui Generis, Ghengis Khan(where are you), Almotu, Prosal, Albert Punter, hobbying, Tiradentes and others I forgot.
My problem is I am a bit confused regarding which area I should stay and which hotel to book. Sao Paulo seems to be a very large city and its not a city where all the entertainment are bunched in one area. The more I read the more it becomes more confusing and difficult to choose which area to stay
I will be in Sao paulo on business and I think near the city center should be ideal. My budget for hotel is between $150-$250, looking for a good 3 star or four star hotel
I have gone through loads of websites for hotels and narrowed down to this four
Hilton Sao Paulo Morumbi
Mercure Sao Paulo Itaim Bibi
Melia jardim europa
Hotel Grand Corona-Rua Basilio the Gama, 101, Sao Paulo, State of Sao Paulo, Brazil
Tryp Iguatemi-Rua Iguatemi, 150 | Itaim, Sao Paulo, State of Sao Paulo 01451-010, Brazil
I usually prefer hotels not to far from where the fun and food spots are. I would appreciate if any one on the hotels and there proximity to clinicas, prives or clubs and if from experience the hotels are girl friendly
Also noticed from the prices being quoted for chicas in clubs like bamboa, cafe foto, love story and co seems to me to be over the edge. 300, 400-500 reals/hr for a chica. Hell in spain, london and geneva you can get hot brasilenas for 150-200 euros /hr
I hope to visit the top clubs like the bamboa and cafe foto to clinicas and prives. From reading the forum seems clinicas are the best options
I hope to try escort websites. Would love any recommendations on escorts or website
Hope to spend 10 days in sao paulo. Hope its enough to have a blast.
Ciao
[QUOTE=Gaucho9]More on the Kilt, borrowed from the TotalSP Guide:
[url]http://totalspguide.com/post/1194/Kilt/[/url]
Rumors say that after visiting a Scottish castle, Kilt's owner was so enamored she commissioned the construction of this weirdly out-of-place homage. The replica hosts something inside that's a world apart from fine Scottish heritage: a trademark stage act where girls swing sensually over the bar on decorated swings, while pretty, roaming girls use discreet and obvious tricks to literally grab your attention for a paid roll in the sack.
Sit at the bar on super-comfy leather-padded stools or take a low-lying table and sofa in front of the stage. Patrons include uber-touchy, old businessmen, thick-built soccer jocks with arms the size of your head, and non-descript folks like ourselves.
A can of beer will set you back R$22, but the first's free with the R$50 entrance ticket. When indulging in a private experience, one drink (Champagne or Amarula) for your lucky girl will set you back R$45, a room at a local hotel for a few hours will be about R$70, and the girl herself will run R$400.
Pricey![/QUOTE]
Nice review of the Kilt.
Though I"ve never given a girl more than R200 and sometimes R150.
Some will definitely ask for R400 or more, and some guys will pay it.
Just depends on finding a garota you bond with and negotiate without really negotiating.
That's my way anyway
[QUOTE=Gaucho9] the girl herself will run R$400[/QUOTE]Many girls from Kilt go to Love Story after Kilt's closure.
If you mesh well, they easily negotiate to R150, and will stay in your place till mid-afternoon.
Does anyone know if Garden Club and Scandallo Lounge are still open?
GK
[QUOTE=Ricker]Nice review of the Kilt.
Though I"ve never given a girl more than R200 and sometimes R150.
Some will definitely ask for R400 or more, and some guys will pay it.
Just depends on finding a garota you bond with and negotiate without really negotiating.
That's my way anyway[/QUOTE]Hear ya, man. Do what you can do to get it for less when your payin' for it. That's more money in your pocket, and she can get more out of the next guy who doesn't have your negotiating without really negotiating skills.
[QUOTE=Prosal]Many girls from Kilt go to Love Story after Kilt's closure.
If you mesh well, they easily negotiate to R150, and will stay in your place till mid-afternoon.[/QUOTE]I agree with that.
I copied and pasted the text from [url]http://totalspguide.com/post/1194/Kilt/[/url]
But my experience (from six months ago) is that you can get it down easily to 200 Reais.
The best thing for me at Kilt are the shows. Good strippers. A lot of shows. And a lot of fun.
[QUOTE=Golfinho]Hear ya, man. Do what you can do to get it for less when your payin' for it. That's more money in your pocket, and she can get more out of the next guy who doesn't have your negotiating without really negotiating skills.[/QUOTE]
Hahaha ... that was a cool post :)
[QUOTE=Prosal]Many girls from Kilt go to Love Story after Kilt's closure.
If you mesh well, they easily negotiate to R150, and will stay in your place till mid-afternoon.[/QUOTE]
Exactamente amigo ... And you could get them for that amount too in the Kilt itself if you don't want to wait til 4AM for LStory.
You are perfectly right, Sao Paulo is a VERY large city and it may take hours from one side to the other when traffic is bad (almost everyday).
All hotels you mention seem to be not far each other, considering Sao Paulo distances, with the exception of Hotel Grand Corona, which is in the centre. Surely this area is not nice, whereas other areas seem ok.
Maybe you can just map the hotels and the venues you plan to visit and see where they are located and from there you can decide where to stay.
As far as girls rates are concerned, the 300 or 400 or 500 Reais you see mentioned in the forum I believe refer to a session of 2 or 3 hours not to just 1 hour.
So probably Brazilian girls are still cheaper here than in Europe.
[QUOTE=Tribute15]...
My problem is I am a bit confused regarding which area I should stay and which hotel to book. Sao Paulo seems to be a very large city and its not a city where all the entertainment are bunched in one area. The more I read the more it becomes more confusing and difficult to choose which area to stay
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[QUOTE=Genghis Khan]Does anyone know if Garden Club and Scandallo Lounge are still open?
GK[/QUOTE]
GK
The Scandallo Lounge is still open
[url]http://www.scandallolounge.com.br/[/url]
However for a reason that I cannot explain all reports on this venue (and several others also) are archived on the Brazilian sites and it is forbidden to post reports related to these places.
Maybe a NRP? (No review policy). I dunno...
[QUOTE=Tribute15]My problem is I am a bit confused regarding which area I should stay and which hotel to book. My budget for hotel is between $150-$250[/QUOTE]
Maybe you missed this post I made about the Mercure Apartments (which suit your R150 budget) and some bairros where they are located.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=967002&postcount=480[/url]
Thank you guys for the tips for accommodation. I would just like to know how my lack of Portuguese will affect me ordering girls from escort sites.
And also like to know whether the prices quoted for girls at clubs like kilt,love story, photo is per hour or more than that.
Thanks
Friend and I are planning to gather 2-3 girls for an evening with us and am looking for a motel that can accomodate a "group" of 5 people, with sufficient space (not really needing one bed only), maybe with a sufficient spacey jacuzzi hot tub or something similar to spice up and allow different plays.
Amny one has any idea or experience on this?
Should be centrally located (I know "central" in SP is all relative) but not in a distant suburb area where one can see lots of motels (ie on teh way to Guarlulhos)
Any input is more than welcome
We have quite a few weeks ahead the planned evening
Thanks to anyone who will contribute with their thoughts and ideas and, why not?, experience. :)
[QUOTE=Bionicman]Friend and I are planning to gather 2-3 girls for an evening with us and am looking for a motel that can accomodate a "group" of 5 people, with sufficient space (not really needing one bed only), maybe with a sufficient spacey jacuzzi hot tub or something similar to spice up and allow different plays.
Amny one has any idea or experience on this?
Should be centrally located (I know "central" in SP is all relative) but not in a distant suburb area where one can see lots of motels (ie on teh way to Guarlulhos)
Any input is more than welcome
We have quite a few weeks ahead the planned evening
Thanks to anyone who will contribute with their thoughts and ideas and, why not?, experience. :)[/QUOTE]
Bionicman
To my knowledge the best place to do this would be the Lido Plaza which is located in Liberdade.
[url]http://www.hotellidoplaza.com.br/[/url]
It's a well-known hang out place to held this kind of event. The name « hotel » is misleading because it's more in reality a motel. I was there recently (August) and I can vouch for it because we held a «suruba» down there. The only problem I see with your requirements is that the rooms are equiped with one bed. Concerning the number of people in side the room you muist keep up for yourself because no more than 2 people are allowed habitually.
The Motel Le Jardin is not too bad neither.
[url]http://www.motellejardin.com.br/index.html[/url]
This website contains love motels in every category you can think of. If you take your time, I'm sure you will find something to your liking. Good luck and have fun!
[url]http://www.guiademoteis.com.br/home.aspx?id=000100000000[/url]
[QUOTE=Bionicman]Friend and I are planning to gather 2-3 girls for an evening with us and am looking for a motel that can accomodate a "group" of 5 people, with sufficient space (not really needing one bed only), maybe with a sufficient spacey jacuzzi hot tub or something similar to spice up and allow different plays.
Amny one has any idea or experience on this?
Should be centrally located (I know "central" in SP is all relative) but not in a distant suburb area where one can see lots of motels (ie on teh way to Guarlulhos)
Any input is more than welcome
We have quite a few weeks ahead the planned evening
Thanks to anyone who will contribute with their thoughts and ideas and, why not?, experience. :)[/QUOTE]
thanks guys for the quick feedback!
Have some honework to do!
If all goes well i will then post a report.
there were some worries lately concerning the fact that it is difficult to find english speaking garotas in são paulo.
here's a list (not exhaustive) of several girls that are (supposedly) fluentt english speaker. (it comes from my personal archives and it was composed in august 2010. considering that this is a 'fast market' it's possible that right now some of the links provided are not working anymore)
patricia haddad :
[url]http://www.escortvip.com.br/vanessa-haddad[/url]
[url]http://www.pimp.com.br/index2.php?li...et&modelo=2338[/url]
(morena clara = light brown, honey) black hair to the waist, light brown eyes, 1m70 (5,6’’)
bbbm, dfk, daty, no anal, she lives in moema, close to the ibirapuera shopping, which is not very far from where you will stay. between r$200 and r$250 for 1h1/2 (she receives in her clean flat. clean towels).
laura affair: (wow, she’s my type !)
black hair, dark brown eyes, 1m64cm, she’s supposed to speak french to!!!!! r$250 for 1h1/2
unfortunately i have no more info on her. only two comments (second hand comments to be exact) on her on the gp guia and one of the poster said that one of his friend went out with her and it was one of his best experience ever. sorry, i cannot add more info for the moment. it appears that the lucky men the poster was referring to is homenquefode (is nick means in english: the man who fucks) and i know personally homenquefode. is quite around for a long time. in general i respect his taste (but i disagree when he tried to present me monique in a vintão (a 10 dollar brothel!)
[url]http://www.escortvip.com.br/laura-affair[/url]
[url]www.lauraaffair.********.com[/url]
luma morena: (28 positive reviews, 2 neutral and 1 negative) ymmv (anal 4 time)
black hair, 1m,75 cm (5,8’’) she lives in moema on rua tuim (hey that’s the street just besides where is located my condo!never seen on walking or shopping around though) r$250 1h1/2
[url]http://www.clubmodel.com.br/acompanh...perfil&id=1433[/url]
[url]http://www.pimp.com.br/index2.php?li...et&modelo=2328[/url]
izabely facchine : (reviews: 7 positive, 2 neuter, 2 bad) blonde, 1m70, r$250 1h1/2
that gaucha beauty used to work at café photo (an upper end club). i cannot certify that she really speaks english because on the contatos site among idiomas (languages) she only list spanish. as i said earlier, she’s a gaucha, that is a southern brazilian (probably from porto alegre). [url]http://www.chantily.com.br/saopaulo/...lifacchini.htm[/url] [url]http://www.erosguide.com.br/izabelli...belli_free.htm[/url] [url]http://www.pimp.com.br/index2.php?li...et&modelo=2055[/url] [url]http://www.censurado.com.br/nome.php...drianafacchine[/url] [url]http://www.abusado.com.br/adrianafacchine/[/url] [url]http://www.contatos.com.br/adriana-facchine/[/url]
camila fantin :
blonde (dyied), 25 years old (on her blog it’s listed 21????), green eyes, 1m68 cm, silicone breasts. gfe + anal. [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord103][CodeWord103][/url].
rs250 for 1h1/2.
she’s a knocker! a former playboy brasil coelinha (a playboy bunny in the brasil edition of hefner’s magazine) one of the nicest xana (pussy) i have ever seen. her reviews on the gp guia are like this: 5 nutral, 5 bad and 15 good. cannot say more because i never went out with her.
[url]http://www.camilafantin.********.com/[/url]
[url]http://www.escortvip.com.br/camila-fantin[/url]
[url]http://www.temperosensual.com/camila...ilafantin.html[/url]
[url]http://www.todasua.com.br/sp/sp_camila.php[/url]
[url]http://www.chantily.com.br/saopaulo/...milafantin.htm[/url]
[url]http://www.astentadoras.com/descrica...0%3e%20capital[/url]
[url]http://www.pimp.com.br/index2.php?li...et&modelo=2316[/url]
[url]http://www.malicia.com.br/free/acomp...scr=20&id=6619[/url]
[url]http://www.spgatas.com.br/acompanhan.../camila-fantin[/url]
[url]http://kissclass.com/modelos/camilafantin.html[/url]
duda mello : (reviews: 13 positive, 2 neuter and 2 bad) she was formerly known as ayla sanches when i went out with her in 2005. then she was 150r$ now she is actually 300r$ (don’t forget that brasil will be one of the next economic power of the world, let’s say in 25 years or so…). typical samba dancer body: strong tights (coxas grossas) and firm butt. gfe + anal. she lives in vila olimpia…so not very fra from your hotel.
[url]http://www.escortvip.com.br/duda-mello[/url]
[url]http://www.chantily.com.br/saopaulo/...enas/duda1.htm[/url]
[url]http://www.pimp.com.br/index2.php?li...et&modelo=2225[/url]
carol sampaio: (reviews: 66 positives, 2 neuter, 1 negative) she’s a famous porn actress (still active doing pron movies) still r$200 but lately (since mid 2010 most of her reviews are negative: she’s to mechanics, she’s not looking anymore like her pictures, etc. i met her several times in private parties and she was never a very good looking garota…but she was oozing sex.
[url]http://carol-sampaio.escort24h.com/inside.php[/url]
[url]http://www.erosguide.com.br/carol_sa...carol_free.htm[/url]
[url]http://www.pimp.com.br/index2.php?li...et&modelo=2312[/url]
[url]http://www.erosguide.com.br/carol_sa...carol_free.htm[/url]
[url]http://www.executivoclub.com/html/mo...id_modelo=1493[/url]
[url]http://www.sogarotas.com.br/garota_2005.php?id=783[/url]
[url]http://www.ladyvip.com.br/modelos/sa...paio/index.php[/url]
[url]http://www.carol-sampaio.***********.com/[/url]
isabella davilla: (reviews: 5 positive, 3 neuter and 2 negative) blonde, r$250 1h1/2
gfe (anal 3 times) [url]http://www.pimp.com.br/index2.php?li...et&modelo=2229[/url]
monica cruz : [url]http://www.pimp.com.br/index2.php?li...et&modelo=2307[/url]
barbara ferraz : (reviews : 66 positive, 6 neuter, 6 negative). she’s actually 350r$. on 66 reviews she allowed 63 times anal. complete gfe. very muscular body with coxas grossas. south american men like this, north american men less.
[url]http://www.barbaraferraz.com.br/[/url]
[url]http://www.pimp.com.br/index2.php?li...et&modelo=1136[/url]
[url]http://www.malicia.com.br/free/acomp...w.php?id=03995[/url]
duos with patricia sanches: [url]http://www.assaradonas.com.br/modelo...cia/index.html[/url]
isadora :no info available on her.
[url]http://www.pimp.com.br/index2.php?li...et&modelo=1765[/url]
patricia kimberly: (reviews: 158 positive, 8 neuter and 1 negative) she’s another famous porn actress in brazil. i know her since 2007 and she’s still at 200r$ a bargain if you like spinners. gfe + anal (she was reviewed 158 times doing anal).
[url]http://www.patriciakimberly.com/foto...-kimberly.html[/url]
(several links available on this links to others sites. just clik outros ensaios = which means other photo sessions) [url]http://www.pimp.com.br/index2.php?li...et&modelo=2046[/url]
sharon blake: few reviews = one neuter. she works under several names. i’ll stay away.
[url]http://www.executivoclub.com/html/mo...id_modelo=1425[/url]
[url]http://www.pimp.com.br/index2.php?li...et&modelo=1821[/url]
clara truzzi (formerly eduarda pacheco): (reviews : 7 positive, 2 neuter and 1 negative) 250r$. anal 3 times.
it appears that she also speaks french. i cannot confirm this at this point but i gonna check it when i’ll be back in sampa.
[url]http://www.pimp.com.br/index2.php?li...et&modelo=2240[/url]
milena abdalla : (reviews: 56 positive, 1 neuter, 0 negative). r$200. she lives in jardim (on alameida campinas). still possible to get in touch with her with a taxi ride. anal allowed 46 time. take notice that she is a coroa (what we could call her a milf: she’s a solid 40 years old)
[url]http://www.pimp.com.br/index2.php?li...et&modelo=2268[/url]
[url]http://www.clubmodel.com.br/acompanh...perfil&id=1238[/url]
[url]http://www.erosguide.com.br/milenaab...dalla-free.htm[/url]
roberta carioca: (reviews : 129 positive, 4 neuter and 1 negative) . oups…forget her. i’ve heardd that she’s married and actually she lives in london (united kingdom). i met her once in a private party (at the former club solid gold in moema. she was with homenquefode). i wonder how a britt was able to seduce her (with money maybe?)
[url]http://www.malybu.com.br/acompanhante.php?garota=88[/url]
[url]http://www.pimp.com.br/index2.php?li...et&modelo=2221[/url]
[url]http://www.malicia.com.br/free/acomp...06200&descr=15[/url]
[url]http://robertinhacariocagp.********.com/[/url]
grazzi masseratti : (reviews 7 positive, 3 negative). she had several names before. i wont list them here. r$200. blonde, green eyes. 28 years old.
[url]http://www.assaradonas.com.br/modelos/caroline/[/url]
[url]http://www.contatos.com.br/grazi/[/url]
[url]http://www.erosguide.com.br/grazee_m...erati-free.htm[/url]
[url]http://www.erosguide.com.br/paola/paola_free.htm[/url]
[url]http://www.pimp.com.br/index2.php?li...et&modelo=2062[/url]
[url]http://www.acompanhantesclub.com/paola.htm[/url]
gabi sanchez : (reviews : 8 positive, 1 neuter and 6 negative). r$200…but she has already 6 negative review. i would skip here….
[url]http://www.portalgirls.com.br/gabi/[/url]
[url]http://www.contatos.com.br/gabi/[/url]
[url]http://www.contatosgls.com.br/nome.php?nome=gabi[/url]
[url]http://www.abusado.com.br/gabi/[/url]
[url]http://www.malicia.com.br/free/acomp...ow.php?id=4552[/url]
[url]http://www.erosguide.com.br/gabi_sanches/gabi_free.htm[/url]
[url]http://www.pimp.com.br/index2.php?li...et&modelo=1911[/url]
cacau coelho : absolutely no info on her…
[url]http://www.pimp.com.br/index2.php?li...et&modelo=2295[/url]
[QUOTE=Sui Generis]There were some worries lately concerning the fact that it is difficult to find English speaking garotas in São Paulo.
Here's a list (not exhaustive) [/url][/QUOTE]
Any of these girls speak american?
[QUOTE=Tiradentes]Any of these girls speak american?[/QUOTE]
I don't know if they speak 'American' but I know for sure that they all speak their mind out when it's time to pay them.
Wow. what a list SG. You have saved us non-porto speaking mongers a lot. thanks man, will definitely try to reach some of the garotas and give feedback.
[QUOTE=Tiradentes]Any of these girls speak american?[/QUOTE]
No one in BRZ speaks Spanglish :-).
What I find fascinating with countries where English is not the main language, it's the attraction caused by the American way of life (maybe an outdated concept nowadays!).
I remember that I was once trying my best to find the right word in Portuguese/Brasil to give the equivalent of 'delivery'. There's a word in Brazil that match this concept and it's the noum entrega. For example, Pizzaria com entrega a domicílio (Home delivery pizzeria).
I was dumbfounded when I realized that almost everyone use the English word : delivery!
I indicate to you the girl Patricia Kimberly. She specializes in anal sex. She is also a famous Brazilian porn star and meets in downtown Sao Paulo, Bela Vista district. More details: [url]http://www.gpguia.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=34787&sid=cc5f5c3b44fde7d7c322b022ebf0264a&start=170[/url] (in Portuguese). Official website: [url]http://www.patriciakimberly.com/en/patty[/url
Hi guys,
I am visiting SP 9/26-9/30. being my first time in SP, is it safe to visit places like cafe photo by myself?
Anyone in SP during that time please PM me and lets hit up the clubs together.
[QUOTE=Teddy King]Hi guys,
Anyone in SP during that time please PM me and lets hit up the clubs together.[/QUOTE]Yes, it's safe to go there all by yourself.
Have fun
I have quite a few guys private message me asking if I know of places they can meet semi-pros.
Honestly, I do not know WTF you guys have in mind. I have been mongering for 10 years, and this concept of semi-pro is something I have never really understood. I had one very clear relationship with what I would call a semi-pro in Russia. A girl at a salon (a true pro) liked me and said "you are a good fuck, I will recommend you to a friend of mine who only does guys that can fuck good. She is a college student and is not listed anywhere. " That led to several meetings with lovely Natalie. In my mind, she was a semi-pro because she did not work at a salon, nor did she list herself on any web sites, nor did she go to any hooker bars.
I am not sure what the rest of you mean by semi-pro. If you mean, someone who seeks compensation for sex "less than full time". That could apply to a significant percentage of the boate girls in Sampa, as many of these girls are working day jobs or university, and go to boates when they need the extra money, and have the time. In this respect the boates that have fewer restrictions on schedule, like Photo, may have more of such girls.
However, I think you guys are a bit delusional if you think that semi-pros are likely to be "better" or more "natural" than pros. There are a lot of factors at work. Lots of ins and outs as Lebowski would say. It always comes down to personal interaction. I have had seasoned pros who are totally off the hook, I regularly see a clinica girl, privately, who completely lets it all out with me, despite f'n guys all week long. On the other hand, I have seen very "inexperienced. Semi-pros (in the sense of not full time)", who were crap in bed. A lot of it depends on the girls attitude. In her mind, is she allowing herself to relate to you as a client or as a lover. Imo this has nothing to do with how much time she has worked, it is her private pyschology and your ability to relate to her, and her ability to relate to you. I. E. "química". You can have good quimica with veterans and bad quimica with newbies, and everything in between.
Visit Scandallo Lounge on Sept 30. This is an absolute must experienced place. The owner gave me a tour through the place. I was very impressed about the different bars the have. there is a cool out site place for smokers. It is all very clean and I concluded to get in. The entree is 150BRL from that you can spend for 100BRL on drinks, They charging normal prices for the drinks. no surprise at the end. there was a popular live band playing, the atmosphere is relaxed, girls are not too pushing and it is easy to get in contact with them. Girl prices are between 300-600BRL dependent on your negotiation skills. Would rate the girls between 7-9.5 There were at least 250 girls, Took a beautiful student type with me, paid 500BRL for the night she stayed till the morning, had breakfast together and back to work.
Have fun in Sao Paolo!
[QUOTE=Roberto Kr]Visit Scandallo Lounge on Sept 30. ... There were at least 250 girls .. [/QUOTE]Seriously? At least 250 girls? I am very familiar with Scandalo, former Millenium. The facilities are top notch. But I have not been impressed with their collection of girls since they reopened last December. Every time I have gone, the collection of girls was quite weak imo. I have been there about 5 times this year, and have always been disappointed with selection.
Obviously, the number of girls will vary like all the other clubs. Tue-Thursday being best. What day were you there? And are you really confident that there were 250?
I don't think I have seen it with more than 100 since reopening. Bomboa was very weak this week in terms of girls and crowd. Don't know, maybe Scandalo is increasing at their expense.
[QUOTE=Roberto Kr]Visit Scandallo Lounge on Sept 30. This is an absolute must experienced place. The owner gave me a tour through the place. I was very impressed about the different bars the have. there is a cool out site place for smokers. It is all very clean and I concluded to get in. The entree is 150BRL from that you can spend for 100BRL on drinks, They charging normal prices for the drinks. no surprise at the end. there was a popular live band playing, the atmosphere is relaxed, girls are not too pushing and it is easy to get in contact with them. Girl prices are between 300-600BRL dependent on your negotiation skills. Would rate the girls between 7-9.5 There were at least 250 girls, Took a beautiful student type with me, paid 500BRL for the night she stayed till the morning, had breakfast together and back to work.
Have fun in Sao Paolo![/QUOTE]I'd like to know more also - Roberto, with only one post, it does look like advertising.
Does anybody know if pornstar Emanuelle Diniz is in play here in Sao Paulo for normal, non-movie-performing mongers?
Hi Rovnak,
I was there on Wednesday night Sept 29, around 11PM, the place was packed maybe because of the live band.
Cheers,
Roberto
One of the best encounters I have had in Sampa over the years is with Raquel Fernandes. She operates in-house, currently from an hotel/aparment on R. Bela Cintra, close to Av. Paulista. She charges R$ 250 for 1,5 hours, and even if this is outside what most SP-experienced mongers will pay, IMO it is well worth it. She is simply gorgeous.
Loira, long hair to her bunda, big, fake titties (my preference) and man, do they feel good. Tight, bubble butt - I don't know if she does completa, I did not ask. About 160 cm tall. Coca-cola bottle shaped body. Best of all, she is really pleasant to be with. After the act, we had a few beers from the mini-bar, free of charge for me. Probably cheap points, but still great!
She does not speak a word of English so some portuguese is necessary. You get an address, give your credentials to the hotel, and go op the elevators to the room she indicates when you call upon arrival. She will be one of my regulars.
Find her on:
[url]http://splove.com.br/index.php/Modelos/Raquel-Fernandes.html[/url]
...or..
[url]http://www.topland.com.br/raquel_fernandes.html[/url]
The new google maps is incredible, really enjoying the views of centro sp. Whats the deal with all the heavy gated areas? How dangerous is it at night and day?
[QUOTE=Lex Lector]Does anybody know if pornstar Emanuelle Diniz is in play here in Sao Paulo for normal, non-movie-performing mongers?[/QUOTE]
There was a time when she was easily available. It was between 2004 and 2006. After that she was still available but you had to pick her up at Bomboa because she was hanging there.
She spends some time in Europe. For your information, her personal escort site is still active.
[url]http://www.emanuellediniz.cjb.net/[/url]
[url]http://emanuelle-diniz.escort24h.com/rates.php[/url]
You can even try her msn address: [email]emanudiniz@hotmail.com[/email]
Phone: (11) 8123-1791.
One of her add is still active on Chantilly: [url]http://www.chantily.com.br/saopaulo/garotas/morenas/emanuellediniz.htm[/url]
Actually, I'm not in Sampa but I would give her a try. TOFTT for us!
ABS!
[QUOTE=Almotu]I was on 'deep Augusta' this past Sunday...[/QUOTE]
Funny, I made up that term 5-6 years ago for that area. It may be my only lifetime contribution to lexicon evolution.
After several years' hiatus, I will start traveling to Sampa regularly beginning next month. I will be staying on the other side of town, near the Murambai Shopping Center. It will be quite sad to be so far from Deep Augusta, but it sounds like it has gone downhill, anyway.
There are MANY clinicas and boites between Murambai and the domestic airport, so I will have much to report on.
Keep up the good work!
FT
[QUOTE=Full Throttle]
I will be staying on the other side of town, near the Murambai Shopping Center. .
There are MANY clinicas and boites between Murambai and the domestic airport, so I will have much to report on.
FT[/QUOTE]
I'm sure you mean MORUMBI, isn't?
As you said a lot of action around this shopping Center. Cubo Verde (or as it is called since a couple of year Espaço Morumbi, which is own by Hector), Clínica Kin, Berrini Massagens, Clínica Novo Cancionero, etc.
Espaço Morumbi: 101, rua Chafic Maluf - Chácara Santo Antonio.
Phones (11) 5041-5128/(11) 5181-3648
Clinica Kin, 235, Rua Prof. José Marques da Cruz Brooklin Novo
Phones (11) 5181-9026/ (11) 5182-9258
Site: [url]www.clinicakin.com.br[/url]
Berrini Massagens
245, Av Roque Petroni (corner with Rua Rondel. It's just opposite to Clinica KIn. You just have to cross the street and you're there!))
Phones (11) 5181-7733/(11) 5181-3351
Site: [url]www.berrinimassagem.com.br[/url]
Welcome back to Sampa FT!
Speaking of Augusta I was there Saturday night September 25th. I was actually there by accident because I took a wrong turn when leaving the restaurant Terraza Italia and needed to get back to Avenida Paulista.
Anyway Augusta was jumping with activity, it took me 30 minutes to get back to Avenida Paulista. There was unbelievable traffic any many street walkers. There were multiple clubs that I passed all with long lines outside. I was with family so I couldn't act too interested but it definitely looked like a fun sopt.
[QUOTE=Sui Generis]There was a time when she was easily available. It was between 2004 and 2006. After that she was still available but you had to pick her up at Bomboa because she was hanging there.
She spends some time in Europe. For your information, her personal escort site is still active.[/QUOTE]Sui, this is world-class. I will definitely take one for the team! I am trying to get in contact with her, but no word yet. I wil keep you updated on development.
While we are talking pornstars. What about Regina Rizzi? I can see on gdpguia that she has been active as an escort as well.
Obrigado
[QUOTE=Sui Generis]I'm sure you mean MORUMBI, isn't?[/QUOTE]Oops, sorry. A Brazilian-Indian hybrid between Murumbi and Mumbai...
[QUOTE=Sui Generis]Cubo Verde (or as it is called since a couple of year Espaço Morumbi, which is own by Hector), Clínica Kin, Berrini Massagens, Clínica Novo Cancionero, etc.
Espaço Morumbi: 101, rua Chafic Maluf - Chácara Santo Antonio.
Phones (11) 5041-5128/(11) 5181-3648
Clinica Kin, 235, Rua Prof. José Marques da Cruz Brooklin Novo
Phones (11) 5181-9026/ (11) 5182-9258
Site: [url]www.clinicakin.com.br[/url]
Berrini Massagens
245, Av Roque Petroni (corner with Rua Rondel. It's just opposite to Clinica KIn. You just have to cross the street and you're there!))
Phones (11) 5181-7733/(11) 5181-3351
Site: [url]www.berrinimassagem.com.br[/url]
Welcome back to Sampa FT![/QUOTE]Thanks for the welcome!
I've reviewed Clinica Kin many times and point to it as one of the most consistently good places in the world. At Berrini, the girls may actually be even younger and hotter, but that seemed to be the land of CBJ's where Kin was very clearly not!
Looking forward to your other recommendation and I will do my best to explore my niche, which is low-medium level night clubs. There were a couple on Enrique Petroni just a little south and east of Sto. Amarro. I'll see if they're still around.
FT
[QUOTE=Houston Player]Anyway Augusta was jumping with activity, it took me 30 minutes to get back to Avenida Paulista. There was unbelievable traffic any many street walkers. There were multiple clubs that I passed all with long lines outside. I was with family so I couldn't act too interested but it definitely looked like a fun sopt.[/QUOTE]Sounds like there is still life down there-- great!
I can't believe you made a "wrong turn" with your family and ended up on the most prolific hooker street in Sao Paulo!
[QUOTE=Sui Generis]There was a time when she was easily available. It was between 2004 and 2006. After that she was still available but you had to pick her up at Bomboa because she was hanging there.
She spends some time in Europe. For your information, her personal escort site is still active.
[url]http://www.emanuellediniz.cjb.net/[/url]
[url]http://emanuelle-diniz.escort24h.com/rates.php[/url]
You can even try her msn address: [email]emanudiniz@hotmail.com[/email]
Phone: (11) 8123-1791.
One of her add is still active on Chantilly: [url]http://www.chantily.com.br/saopaulo/garotas/morenas/emanuellediniz.htm[/url]
Actually, I'm not in Sampa but I would give her a try. TOFTT for us!
ABS![/QUOTE]Her add In Chantilly is good. She is being picky about whome she gets with now a days. Bidding starts at 300R and up. Had her several times over the last years. Be carefull what you ask for. This chick can fugging go..
Ill be honest, I met her in brazil a few years ago and paid her for the weekend at VIPs. It was a Porn Fantasy I had and it cost me every bit of $2000U.S. including the room...
Fellas! I did not give a fuck it was what I wanted and had to have. Will do it again if I can get her to leave Sao Paulo.
[QUOTE=Alex Deuce]Her add In Chantilly is good. She is being picky about whome she gets with now a days. Bidding starts at 300R and up. Had her several times over the last years. Be carefull what you ask for. This chick can fugging go..
Ill be honest, I met her in brazil a few years ago and paid her for the weekend at VIPs. It was a Porn Fantasy I had and it cost me every bit of $2000U.S. including the room...
Fellas! I did not give a fuck it was what I wanted and had to have. Will do it again if I can get her to leave Sao Paulo.[/QUOTE]Wow!! Checked out her profile and fotos, I dig her looks for sure but to be honest, I find meninas like her all over SP and they'll stay with me for a weekend for some good food, drink and fun and maybe a couple hundred Reais, and they can all fuggin go Brasileira wicked.
What the best deals for buses from SP to Rio.
Please list the website sorry could not the info and I checked a few sites.
[QUOTE=Auriflama]What the best deals for buses from SP to Rio.
Please list the website sorry could not the info and I checked a few sites.[/QUOTE]
Auriflama, I would recommend simply showing up at the rodoviaria (bus terminal) and take a look around at several of the bus companies going between SP and Rio. Buses basically leave about every 20-30min. going between SP and Rio. They are all very competitive when it comes to pricing fares between SP and Rio, as this is typically their most popular route.
Pricing will usually depends on time of day you wish to depart and comfort level you with to ride in (ie., executivo, leito executivo, standard...etc). You will find very little difference in the pricing.
Personally, I like the front window seat of the top deck on a 1001 double decker buses. Great view going to and from Rio. Also I wouldn't waste my money on the leito executivo buses.
I was in avenida Paulistana yesterday and I spotted this fine piece of female Brazilian ass. She is just a passer-by, NOT a pro!
Enjoy
B.B.
An old girlfriend I see from time to time. 24 years old. She is so shy that I am only the 2nd man she has ever known sexually. A very nice innocent girl.
B.B.
I have known her for a few years. She is a tall model-like girl.
B.B.
[QUOTE=Bimbo Boy]I have known her for a few years. She is a tall model-like girl.
B.B.[/QUOTE]Finaly some good photos.
Congratulations Bimbo.
[QUOTE=Bimbo Boy]An old girlfriend I see from time to time. 24 years old. She is so shy that I am only the 2nd man she has ever known sexually. A very nice innocent girl.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=139912[/url]
B.B.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for sharing! Really, enjoyed that sweet little bite-sized ass of hers!
[QUOTE=Bimbo Boy]I was in avenida Paulistana yesterday and I spotted this fine piece of female Brazilian ass. She is just a passer-by, NOT a pro!
Enjoy
B.B.[/QUOTE]
Nice shot!!
Isn't Avenida Paulista just a sea of sexy girls walking about??, especially at the busy times of day.
I just love it!!
Just noticed this is happening this weekend the 15th annual erotica fair in Sao Paulo
[url]http://www.Erotikafair.com. Br/[/url]
4 days of fair and show.
3 nights of swing parties.
Could be interesting.
[QUOTE=Bimbo Boy]I have known her for a few years. She is a tall model-like girl.
B.B.[/QUOTE]
Muito bela!!
Thanks for the fotos of the girls.
Parabens!! :)
[QUOTE=Alex Deuce]Her add In Chantilly is good. She is being picky about whome she gets with now a days. Bidding starts at 300R and up. Had her several times over the last years. Be carefull what you ask for. This chick can fugging go..
Ill be honest, I met her in brazil a few years ago and paid her for the weekend at VIPs. It was a Porn Fantasy I had and it cost me every bit of $2000U.S. including the room...
Fellas! I did not give a fuck it was what I wanted and had to have. Will do it again if I can get her to leave Sao Paulo.[/QUOTE]
This girl was in mike in brazil porn video under the name emanuelle. Thats awesome. Maybe ill give her a call when I go in january.
[QUOTE=Auriflama]What the best deals for buses from SP to Rio.
Please list the website sorry could not the info and I checked a few sites.[/QUOTE]
Buses
[url]http://www.autoviacao1001.com.br/pt/[/url]
[url]http://www.itapemirim.com.br/[/url]
[url]http://www.passagem-em-domicilio.com.br/expresso%20brasileiro.asp[/url]
ryjer
[QUOTE=Illini333]This girl was in mike in brazil porn video under the name emanuelle. Thats awesome. Maybe ill give her a call when I go in january.[/QUOTE]Let me know if you succeed - I have tried all three phone numbers, and no response on email. Maybe she is in Europe or something - the garota is not easy to get a hold of.
Hi,
My plane lands in SP at 8AM and the next one leaves SP at 1:30 PM.(i would say i will have 2-3hrs)
Do you think its enaugh time for a quick fun ? Or is it better to see some touristic sightes in SP or simply stay at the airport? If option nr.1 i would appreciate recommendations taking into consideration the time i have.(any options available at this time of the day?)
Thanks in advance
[QUOTE=Easy Lover222]Hi,
My plane lands in SP at 8AM and the next one leaves SP at 1:30 PM.(i would say i will have 2-3hrs)
Do you think its enaugh time for a quick fun ? Or is it better to see some touristic sightes in SP or simply stay at the airport? If option nr.1 i would appreciate recommendations taking into consideration the time i have.(any options available at this time of the day?)
Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]Are you landing in guarulhos or Congonhas? Are you leaving from the same airport?
Closest to Congonhas is Clinica cherry [url]http://www.clinicacherry.com.br/[/url]
but they don't open until 11 AM.
Boys, Thanks for your messages of support for my pictures !
Regards.
B.B.
[QUOTE=Lucasa Andreanni]I indicate to you the girl Patricia Kimberly. She specializes in anal sex. She is also a famous Brazilian porn star and meets in downtown Sao Paulo, Bela Vista district. More details: [url]http://www.gpguia.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=34787&sid=cc5f5c3b44fde7d7c322b022ebf0264a&start=170[/url] (in Portuguese). Official website: [url]http://www.patriciakimberly.com/en/patty[/url[/QUOTE]
I had patricia 3 times during visits in Sao Paulo 2007 and 2008.
There are also some reports from my trip in 2007/ 2008.
She is great is a great fuck combined with a great personality. Personality is not professional, its more (ore better) like a girl friend combined with great sex as to your liking.
A human beeing who didnt loose grounds. Could pass any time as a girlfriend and also as a compagnion in any business situation.
If I would be more close to her age and live in Brazil, I would try to win her as a girgfriend.
No mistake can be done here.
If I will be back in Sao Paulo, I will book her again before seraching any other.
Greetings
Brain666
Thanks so much !
I'd rate your pics as the best ones posted in this year in Brazil section !
If I remember well, you always posted top quality girls, even if you do not post often ;)
The only problem is that one who never been to Brazil could easily think that all the brazilians, or at least most of them, look like as the ones in your pics, but after 3 months in Brazil, I have to say, only few girls have such a perfect body as the girls you posted here !
Keep on sharing please ;)
And have fun ;)
[QUOTE=Oralover]Are you landing in guarulhos or Congonhas? Are you leaving from the same airport?
Closest to Congonhas is Clinica cherry [url]http://www.clinicacherry.com.br/[/url]
but they don't open until 11 AM.[/QUOTE]Garulhos - landing and leaving
[QUOTE=Lukasek]Thanks so much !
I'd rate your pics as the best ones posted in this year in Brazil section !
If I remember well, you always posted top quality girls, even if you do not post often ;)
The only problem is that one who never been to Brazil could easily think that all the brazilians, or at least most of them, look like as the ones in your pics, but after 3 months in Brazil, I have to say, only few girls have such a perfect body as the girls you posted here !
Keep on sharing please ;)
And have fun ;)[/QUOTE]
Well of course not every girl out there has a perfect body, but there are plenty to be found.
Here's one of my sweet amigas in SP.
[QUOTE=Bimbo Boy]Boys, Thanks for your messages of support for my pictures !
Regards.
B.B.[/QUOTE]
I would also like to add my thanks for your great pictures. Please keep them coming!
[QUOTE=Lukasek]Thanks so much !
I'd rate your pics as the best ones posted in this year in Brazil section !
If I remember well, you always posted top quality girls, even if you do not post often ;)
The only problem is that one who never been to Brazil could easily think that all the brazilians, or at least most of them, look like as the ones in your pics, but after 3 months in Brazil, I have to say, only few girls have such a perfect body as the girls you posted here !
Keep on sharing please ;)
And have fun ;)[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the encouragements Lukasek. I confess that I am one of your fans, and you are a very valuable provider to this board.
I have always preferred quality over quantity, this why sometimes I have chosen to abstain.
By the way, the sweet pro in my pictures has proposed me to do a "personal tour" of all the special spots in Sanpa, especially for swingers. It could be interesting as she knows some high-end places (she used to be the mistress of the Italian consul in Sanpa). Of course, I will report, hopefully with pictures.
Regards.
B.B.
I was in the privé Eucaliptos, Eucaliptos Street #657 in Moema, last week.
The lineup was average. I picked a young slim girl that seemed more affectionate and prettier than the others, named Thalita. Only 19 years old. Price was 120 R$ for 1 hour. The girl was surprized that I took a full hour, as it seems that most clients take 1/2 hour for 60 R$. Sex was good because the girl's body was slender with small tits (just as I like them), and her pussy was wet and very tight. Unfortunately she did not allow kissing, blow job was with condom only, and anal was off, which turned me off a little bit. After the session I talked to her some. She comes from Minas Gerais, and she is new to the job : it was only her 10th day in the profession! She keeps 50% of the money, but she must stay in the house every working day from 3pm to 6am!
She has an average of 10 clients a day. Imagine that! Since I am fit and since I was put off that she did not kiss me, I had shagged her pretty hard. With 10 customers a day, she must be quite tired at the end of the day. Being serviced by a girl that has received over 100 penises in a few days made me think quite a lot. These privês are good quality for the price, but I am not willing to increase my chances of getting a STD.
My "sweet pro" (see pictures below) has told me that since the Real has risen, foreign clients are much fewer, and these were the ones willing to pay premium prices. For the high-end girls, business is tougher, even if Brazil is doing better. She told me that life is tougher for the girls at Love Story.
Ah, as it happens often, I found the receptionist to be sweet and fun, even if not so beautiful, and I chatted and joked with her while waiting for my taxi. I asked her if she would do a session with me but she declined. I have now decided that my goal is to shag a receptionist from a w*horehouse !
Regards.
B.B.
I wrote a couple of years ago a report on that place.
The main advantage of this venue is the fact that it's open 24h a day (and it's close to where I live when I'm in Sampa). It's located on a quiet street in Moema between Santo Amaro and Ibirapuera (it's closer to Ibirapuera though)
The first time you go there it's possible thay you may feel a little bit intimidated because there's always a big bouncer waiting outisde.
The girls are always average and the rooms are sparly furnished. It's the same kind of privê as the Jaceru. Very basic commodities but as I wrote earlier, it's open 24 h.
Thanks for the report Bimbo Boy
I'm always happy when I read report from privês in São Paulo because it's different from the same shit: Cafe Photo and Bomboa.
[QUOTE=Bimbo Boy]I was in the privé Eucaliptos, Eucaliptos Street #657 in Moema, last week.
My "sweet pro" (see pictures below) has told me that since the Real has risen, foreign clients are much fewer, and these were the ones willing to pay premium prices. For the high-end girls, business is tougher, even if Brazil is doing better. She told me that life is tougher for the girls at Love Story.
Regards.
B.B.[/QUOTE]
Interesting comment. This explains also why the average price for an indy is going up. A couple of years it was still 150R$ for 1h1i/2, while now it's more around R$300. But if you're clever (or garota-wise) you wont pay these crazy prices.
[QUOTE=Bimbo Boy]...
I have always preferred quality over quantity....[/QUOTE]
Seldom men do that, but it pays off, as we can see from your pics :)
You have PM ;)
[QUOTE=Lukasek]Thanks so much !
I'd rate your pics as the best ones posted in this year in Brazil section ![/QUOTE]Luka, isn't it years that, in our PMs, I recommended you Paulistas over fucking harcore swarthy faveladas hoes Cariocas?
That said, if you want to go to places wheres roads are paved with outrageously stunning beauties, you know where to go. Just join me in Ukraine this winter.
[QUOTE=Ricker]Well of course not every girl out there has a perfect body, but there are plenty to be found.
Here's one of my sweet amigas in SP.[/QUOTE]
That is a real cutie! Congratulations!
Please post more of your sweet amigas!
B.B.
A few more links:
Isabela
[url]http://www.pimp.com.br/index2.php?link=acompanhantes_det&modelo=2228[/url]
Luana
[url]http://www.pimp.com.br/index2.php?link=acompanhantes_det&modelo=2064[/url]
Amanda Sabatini
[url]http://www.pimp.com.br/index2.php?link=acompanhantes_det&modelo=2271[/url]
Valentina
[url]http://www.pimp.com.br/index2.php?link=acompanhantes_det&modelo=2135[/url]
Aisha Ventura
[url]http://www.pimp.com.br/index2.php?link=acompanhantes_det&modelo=2164[/url]
[QUOTE=Sui Generis]There were some worries lately concerning the fact that it is difficult to find English speaking garotas in São Paulo.
Here's a list (not exhaustive) of several girls that are (supposedly) fluentt English speaker. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Prosal]Luka, isn't it years that, in our PMs, I recommended you Paulistas...[/QUOTE]
Yes it is, from january 2009, I remember very well and do not worry, I do not plan at the moment to go to Brazil, ( still trying to arrange for UA... ), I just wanted to thank BB for his pics and well....I regret a bit I did not go to SP...
Bearsk, can you confirm from experience that these garotas speak English? I know sometimes they advertise falsely that they do. For instance, I've already contacted Duda Mello who refuses to answer her emails in English and admits that she can't really speak it.
Thanks in advance
[QUOTE=Bearsk]A few more links:
Isabela
[url]http://www.pimp.com.br/index2.php?link=acompanhantes_det&modelo=2228[/url]
Luana
[url]http://www.pimp.com.br/index2.php?link=acompanhantes_det&modelo=2064[/url]
Amanda Sabatini
[url]http://www.pimp.com.br/index2.php?link=acompanhantes_det&modelo=2271[/url]
Valentina
[url]http://www.pimp.com.br/index2.php?link=acompanhantes_det&modelo=2135[/url]
Aisha Ventura
[url]http://www.pimp.com.br/index2.php?link=acompanhantes_det&modelo=2164[/url][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bearsk]A few more links:
Isabela
[url]http://www.pimp.com.br/index2.php?link=acompanhantes_det&modelo=2228[/url]
Luana
[url]http://www.pimp.com.br/index2.php?link=acompanhantes_det&modelo=2064[/url]
Amanda Sabatini
[url]http://www.pimp.com.br/index2.php?link=acompanhantes_det&modelo=2271[/url]
Valentina
[url]http://www.pimp.com.br/index2.php?link=acompanhantes_det&modelo=2135[/url]
Aisha Ventura
[url]http://www.pimp.com.br/index2.php?link=acompanhantes_det&modelo=2164[/url][/QUOTE]I dont speak a lick of Portuguese, do these girls really speak English? What's the expected rate?
Feel free to PM.
Thanks
Agree with all - a real sweetheart. Tight body and both holes. Friendly and accomodating. Pounded her for over an hour in the spring. Highly recommend.
What is the best way to call Sao Paulo for the next few weeks to set up a trip there.
Is there any type of magic jack for usa to Brazil?
[QUOTE=Auriflama]What is the best way to call Sao Paulo for the next few weeks to set up a trip there.
Is there any type of magic jack for usa to Brazil?[/QUOTE]
I have programed into my cel in the US.
www. dial-55 .com
Between that and skype, life is good :)
Aisha Ventura is a student with good English. Does not work all the time and answers phone variably. Nice, real breasts, good body and cute, lots of encouragement but no A levels.
Best to email her. It took a few emails back and forward before she would take me.
Quoted R200 for an hour. Probably spent 1.45 there, including chatting.
Picture from site de locale below.
[QUOTE=Joserua81]I dont speak a lick of Portuguese, do these girls really speak English? What's the expected rate?
Feel free to PM.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ricker]I have programed into my cel in the US.
www. dial-55 .com
Between that and skype, life is good :)[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info but I don't like the dial-55.com site setup because they don't tell what the rates are for USA to sp cell phones and they don't tell you if there is a weekly fee, round off time. Also doesn't give you choices on the dial-55 option of calls from USA to sp calls. Maybe you have some of this info.
Thanks
[quote=auriflama]thanks for the info but i don't like the dial-55.com site setup because they don't tell what the rates are for usa to sp cell phones and they don't tell you if there is a weekly fee, round off time. also doesn't give you choices on the dial-55 option of calls from usa to sp calls. maybe you have some of this info.
thanks[/quote]
the site shows the rate, us to brasil mobil at 19.5 cents per minute.
calls to sp landline at 2.2 cents a minute.
i also use the service to call colombia mobil at about 8 cents a minute.
no maintenance fee but they do appear to round up, looking at my call history.
i like the service because you can program your phone number with your pin number in the website for pinless dialing plus on the website you can set up a speed dial address book.
Hi guys,
I'm coming to Sao Paulo next week Friday for one night (transit).
I need two recommendations:
1) Is there any girl friendly hotel at the airport? if not what would be a good option? budget up to USD 200.00 per night.
2) looking for an asian escort who likes to do A-Levels.
Thanks for in advance for your help.
[QUOTE=OyiboAfrica]Hi guys,
I'm coming to Sao Paulo next week Friday for one night (transit).
I need two recommendations:
1) Is there any girl friendly hotel at the airport? if not what would be a good option? budget up to USD 200.00 per night.
2) looking for an asian escort who likes to do A-Levels.
Thanks for in advance for your help.[/QUOTE]
I trust you refer to GRU/Guarulhos (and not the city airport, CGH/Congonhas)
1) I think there is only ONE decent hotel nearby the airport and this is a Marriott if I well remember, so suiting your budget (hotels in SP are not outrageously expensive in general)
The only thing is that to make it GF you need a gf! lol
And it doesn't look like the area can offer many.
Account possible extensive traveling time for the girl to come to the GRU hotel from town, as the traffic can be a killer and soemtime it might take up to 60/90' to reach the airport (and the same on the way back).
This might reflect on the price you pay as time is money!
2) RTFF and you will get links to some escort websites in Sao Paulo. There could be some japanese origin girls offering their services, since Brazil has a lot of "japanese" origin people (the biggest japanese community out of the country), although I dont recall having seen many, if any at all, browsing around.
Thanks Bionicman for your help.
If I understand you correctly, as long as I find someone to come to the Marriott, they will let her in?
As I have roughly 24hrs in SP, would it make sense to go into town?
Thanks again for your help
[QUOTE=Bionicman]I trust you refer to GRU/Guarulhos (and not the city airport, CGH/Congonhas)
1) I think there is only ONE decent hotel nearby the airport and this is a Marriott if I well remember, so suiting your budget (hotels in SP are not outrageously expensive in general)
The only thing is that to make it GF you need a gf! LOL
And it doesn't look like the area can offer many.
Account possible extensive traveling time for the girl to come to the GRU hotel from town, as the traffic can be a killer and soemtime it might take up to 60/90' to reach the airport (and the same on the way back).
This might reflect on the price you pay as time is money!
2) RTFF and you will get links to some escort websites in Sao Paulo. There could be some japanese origin girls offering their services, since Brazil has a lot of "japanese" origin people (the biggest japanese community out of the country), although I don't recall having seen many, if any at all, browsing around.[/QUOTE]
She just left my hotel room ;-) Can confirm 1. She speaks relatively good English and 2. Her BBBJDTCIM is damn fine:-)
[url]http://www.sexintheflat.********.com[/url]
Gpguia escort rating -> All: 95 All TD's: 79Neutral: 0 Positives: 64Negative: 0 Fails: 0
Price Range: $ 250 Anal: Yes 14 In 23 Oral Without: Yes 61 In 0 Beija: Yes 63 In 0
Thanks!!! Off to RIO tomorrow!
[QUOTE=Bearsk]Aisha Ventura is a student with good English. Does not work all the time and answers phone variably. Nice, real breasts, good body and cute, lots of encouragement but no A levels.
Best to email her. It took a few emails back and forward before she would take me.
Quoted R200 for an hour. Probably spent 1.45 there, including chatting.
Picture from site de locale below.[/QUOTE]
Glad it was to your liking.
Recollect great tongue work and no sign of fatigue on her part ...
My little friend wants another trip ...
[QUOTE=Mks123]She just left my hotel room ;-) Can confirm 1. She speaks relatively good English and 2. Her BBBJDTCIM is damn fine:-)
[url]http://www.sexintheflat.********.com[/url]
Gpguia escort rating -> All: 95 All TD's: 79Neutral: 0 Positives: 64Negative: 0 Fails: 0
Price Range: $ 250 Anal: Yes 14 In 23 Oral Without: Yes 61 In 0 Beija: Yes 63 In 0
Thanks!!! Off to RIO tomorrow![/QUOTE]
The title should explain most of the reason why I considered heading here. This is apparently the buzz on some of the local forums. Consider also the fact that my research had uncovered that a number of massage parlors (e.g. Brooklin) while cheap, offered only CBJs. In fairness, I don’t personally have other data points for comparison to say “best” but in any event, the preliminary research seemed favorable.
[b]Is This a Prive or a Terma? [/b]
After I rang the buzzer and entered, I walked into a parlor room to talk to Bianca (20, with black hair, probably the shortest and smallest girl on offer that night) for a while. She got me a drink (no charge for my water although she seemed shocked that I didn’t want a beer) but there was no implicit or explicit obligation to pick her or anyone else at that point.
Eventually, I was told that a few girls were busy and that if I wanted to wait a few minutes I could see a bigger lineup. I did, and 3 names stuck out from the probably 6 or so who introduced themselves to me: Bianca (described before), Shayla (older, maybe 40s, tanned, blonde hair, very nice smile), and Agatha (20, dyed blonde hair, braces.)
In the interim a few gentleman from Italy arrived and we chatted over some beers. The girls sat in the kitchen down the hall and later invited us guys to come and talk with them. Shayla seemed like an interesting possibility but she hovered close to another client so I kept talking with Bianca and Agatha. Before too long last call came and every man had to choose a lady for the evening. I initially chose Bianca and wanted to make sure that she would offer DFK and BBBJ. Well, she stated that she would do [i]some[/i] DFK but no BBBJ. Shayla overheard the conversation and offered that either she or Agatha would do BBBJ. OK, so I chose Agatha.
The two of us wandered upstairs to a gigantic but bare bedroom in which there was only a large flatscreen TV, a nightstand, and a king-sized bed. Other than that, there was nothing but bare walls and floors in need of paint and varnishing respectively. Agatha wanted to take a shower but one of the other gentlemen had beaten her to it. We waited 15 minutes for the shower to be free.
After cleaning up, then the action started. Agatha came in wearing only a towel and we lay down on the bed side by side. Our lips touched; we kissed, gently at first and then gradually built up the fire of our passion. She slid down the bed, slipped out of the towel, and started with a blow job. Her technique is quite enchanting; she was able to keep her eyes locked on mine the entire time as she made my dick stiffer and stiffer. She moved up to suck on my nipples, closing her eyes and enjoying the sensation (so I did the same.) After this, she moved back down and I could feel a sensation of orgasm start to build up from inside of me. She sucked and rubbed more vigorously and closed her eyes while ever more rapidly flicking her tongue across my glans in anticipation of the explosion that would become her treat.
But it was not to be. I could feel myself plateauing which sometimes causes me to lose the sensation of orgasm altogether so I told Agatha I wanted to have sex. She put the condom on, lay down, and I entered on top of her. Like last night we’d had about a half hour or so of foreplay that built up a lot of steam and I came inside her after a couple of minutes of thrusting.
We still had some time left and went back to rolling around and making out. But, Agatha had an idea and wanted to try something else. She had me lay on my back and gave me a nice (if a bit vigorous) massage to close out the hour and her evening.
The price for this pleasure: a reasonable R$90 for 1 hour. I asked for a taxi and Shayla was kind enough to call for one on my behalf.
One final observation: the website states that Redway is close to the Ana Rosa Metro stop. While the map makes it look close and walkable, once you’re on the ground it’s a different story. It seemed like a long way across some very hilly and particularly at that time of night unsafe terrain.
Contact Information:
Redway Prive
Open:
M-Sa 10h-22h
Rua Machado de Assis 449
+55 (11) 5081-7195
+55 (11) 5571-8334
[url]www.redway.com.br[/url]
Prices:
R$90/hr. (certain services beyond intercourse must be negotiated and are not available with all girls)
Five years ago, I first set foot in here. A reviewer on another board referred to it as “the best brothel in the world.” Based on my visits then, it certainly would have ranked in my top 10. I remember hot girls in bikinis, assurances of good service, decent food, and live music. Thus, with great anticipation I took a taxi one fine evening to see how much of this was still true. I was warned that the girls no longer dressed in bikinis but I still held out some hope.
After checking in, I wandered around a bit. Maybe it’s just me, but the place seems a lot smaller and in particular had lower ceilings than I remember. (No, I didn’t grow over these past 5 years.) I found an alcove in the room where the band played and I sat down.
After some time, Maya, a tall girl with brown hair and green eyes caught my attention. I waved her over to my table and we started talking. After only a couple of minutes she asked for a R$35 glass of champagne (strike one.) She pointed out that I can afford it as it would be deducted from my R$200 entry fee (strike two.) I replied that in a little bit we could have drinks. The smile instantly disappeared from her face and was replaced by a huff you might see on a child whom you tell to wait 5 minutes for ice cream (strike three.) I didn’t need to dismiss her; she left by herself.
I got up and took a stroll around the place. It seemed rather quiet for a Saturday night.
[b]She’s a Sharp One [/b]
After finding another table to sit down, I saw Kristao (I hope the spelling is right here, it may have sounded like Gristao as well), 26, brown hair but dyed blonde, skinny, and with brown eyes. She’s usually only in Sao Paulo during the week, but decided to hang around for the weekend as well this time.
Even in a low-cut tube dress open at the sides her outfit covered too much (keep in mind that this comes from a man used to FKKs.) Nonetheless, she looked hot so I opened with a famous Mystery neg: “Your hair is lovely. Is it dyed?”
She broke eye contact, turned away and looked down, stroked the back of her head and neck, and sheepishly admitted that yes, it was dyed. We progressed from there to a rather pleasant conversation in which she revealed herself to be quite open to me stroking her thigh, brushing my hand against hers, and putting my arm around her. We discussed a variety of topics about her life and studies.
The price for an hour was R$500, she said. I countered with R$200 as I understand that this is the best case scenario for locals. She moved down to R$400, and initially would not budge. At one point I was ready to give up and after standing up told her “OK, why don’t we meet later?” (My standard line if we can’t reach an agreement but I don’t want to close the door on her completely.)
Her response wasn’t what I expected and it indicated I was dealing with a sharp mind. (She would eventually show me her student ID to prove that she studies law.) She pointed out all the people that had come in since we started talking and that there would be no “later.” She’d find another guy and hang out with him; I’d find another girl and hang out with her. Oh, and she also agreed to R$300. Now that we’d negotiated the price, we had to negotiate services--specifically DFK and BBBJ. Again, I had to get up and start walking away before she agreed to both. It wasn’t always like this. I miss the old days (sigh)….
Before going to the room, I had to pay the entry fee. Somehow, it mushroomed from R$200 to R$220! I asked what the extra R$20 was for, and the most detailed explanation I could get was that it was a 10% surcharge.
When Kristao was ready to go to the room, she showed up in a long black trench coat and heels. I was turned on by the quixotic hope that there was truly nothing underneath that trench coat. (The girls have them because they must walk outside to get to the hotel. Obviously, it is sometimes too cold for short skirts and even if it weren’t it’s not good neighborhood relations to have half-naked women walking around in public at all hours of the night.) I was SOL; she just had her same dress on under that coat, as I would find out in the hotel room.
We went next door to the hotel, where the rate is R$120 per hour. After we both showered, we moved our naked bodies to the corner of the bed. I sat down, she sat on my lap facing me, and we began kissing. I shifted down to her breasts and began sucking on them, slowing down as I got closer to her nipples, and flicking my tongue back and forth across them. I watched us in the mirror and got turned on even more by the vision of her offering her wonderful and natural C cups to me and me taking them completely in my mouth.
We went back to kissing, and she started to grind her bare pussy against my now hard dick. Occasionally, she would stand up and allow me to do some upward thrusting. My glans began to brush up against her inner labia. With each stroke, I could feel more and more wonderful and inviting warmth and wetness as I thrusted deeper and harder toward her. Would she let me do the ultimate taboo, enter her bareback?
In a word, no. Calmer heads prevailed and she decided that she wanted to blow me. So, she started to put on a condom (in contravention of our earlier agreement!) I [i]again[/i] had to get up and start leaving before she relented. “OK, I just want to make you happy,” she offered.
So, I got a blow job (without condom as we had agreed) and then she put a condom on before intercourse. She mounted me and rode me cowgirl, occasionally leaning forward to kiss my neck and let me enjoy the view of her shapely backside displayed on the ceiling mirror. She lay down and I entered her from on top. Thanks to building up a lot of steam, I came rather quickly.
[b]Where Does the Time Go? [/b]
Kristao showed no indication of being upset and we resumed some friendly conversation and post-coital cuddling. We got up to shower one more time before leaving and settled the bill with the hotel.
Well, it turns out that we had stayed an extra half hour. I owed Kristao no extra money but I did owe the hotel another R$60.
As I left in a taxi, the doorman obnoxiously asked for a tip.
So, what would I say in summary?
[b]This place has become Sao Paulo’s answer to Termas Centaurus.[/b] If either is worth visiting at all (and neither is), they would be worth going to just once to satisfy curiosity or to say that you’ve done it. Both places are overpriced and overrated with greedy and unhelpful staff and ridiculous policies. Oh sure, you’ll find pretty girls there but the smarter thing to do (if possible) is to get numbers and meet outside of work just to avoid going to these awful, awful places.
Against my better judgment and for the sake of completeness only, I will include contact information below. Please do not construe this as an endorsement:
Bomboa American Bar
Open:
M-F: 14h-04h
Sa: 14h-03h
Rua Capote Valente 222- Pinheiros -SP
Tel: +55 (11) 3064-6494
+55 (11) 3063-2944
[url]www.bomboa.com.br[/url]
Prices:
Entry, R$200, R$20 surcharge (apparently) for taking a girl to the room.
Sex: R$300/hr. Services beyond intercourse must be negotiated.
Hotel: R$120/hr.
GFE Finder, your observations are mainly correct except for the part about the ceilngs. I was at Bomboa 5 years ago, and frequently during the last 2 years. The layout is the same as always. Except that the girls do not wear bikinis, though they do wear tight short dresses and some are underwearless, and let me validate that surreptitiously. You can still make out on the floor. All that is good.
The hotel separation is a result of the prefeitura crack down. The bar and the hotel are separate establishments for legal reasons. The 10% surcharge was probably for using credit card. I usually pay cash.
300/hr is about right these days. Unfortunately, the high end market in SP favors the girls. Guys are paying 300/hr or more, even brasileiros. I read the gpguia forum regularly. That is why when I go to bomboa I prefer to collect phone numbers and set up private meetings on other days for outcall.
Bomboa is still imo the best place for enjoying live music and being surrounded by hotties. You just have to accept that it will hurt the wallet. There is no getting around it. Brazil high end mongering is no longer a bargain. If you want bargains you have to go to the lower end prives or boates or clinicas. Bomboa, Scandalo, Photo and Connection are ALL expensive. There is no getting around it, SP is expensive. I prefer the more relaxed ambience of Bomboa to the darker, strip club like Scandalo, and the more formal Photo. But to each his own. The discouraging thing about SP is that there are no more top clubs opening. There are the elite clubs which are outrageously expensive but they do have large selections. The alternative are the lower end clubs where there are less than 20 girls and many uglies.
GFE Finder, i do think you are wrong in suggesting that the staff is greedy and unpleasant. I have never had anything but the nicest reception from the staff at bomboa. R35 for a glass of champagne is not a rip off. The beer is R25 i believe. At a 2:1 USD:Real (yes, i know it is not 2:1 now) rate those are reasonable drink prices in an top bar.
I am not sure how much you know about Bomboa or SP in general, but none of the Boates are good on saturday night, except for the Augusta boates because of the general Augusta crowd on saturday is large. The other boates suck on saturday night as the locals have other engagements, the businessmen have returned to their home towns, and the girls are out of town. Tue, Wed, Thursday are the boate nights. There is a huge difference in the selection of girls at Bomboa or the other big clubs on Tue-Thur compared to saturday.
I think foreign visitors have to just accept that Brasil is not a bargain mongering destination at the high end of the scale. If you come to Brasil and expect to pinch pennies, then don't bother to go to the high end clubs. But if you want to see a club with > 50 girls there are not many choices outside of the expensive clubs. So the choice is yours, its all about expectations. If you want a bargain, go to the lower clubs and deal with the smaller selection. For a visitor with only a few days in town, they have to make a choice, spend the money and enjoy it, or lower your expectations and go to a cheaper place. The reality is that a strong Brasilian economy means more expensive mongering, unfortunately.
Personally, i think that the big clubs should offer discount entrance on Saturdays. They used to. Bomboa and Photo both offered 1/2 price admission on saturday but Bomboa no longer does, and not sure about Photo. I don't bother to go during the off days for this reason.
Good report from GFE Finder on Redway below. He is correct, it is one of the more popular and most respected prives in SP. I have been there a few times, I have gone with one of the local brasileiros who is friend with the madam and we had stayed well after hours drinking in the kitchen. Good time.
It is one of the better prives which is not saying much, unfortunately. Prives are basically residence bordellos. A few bedrooms and thats it. Some serve beer other do not. Most have a terrible selection of girls imo. One day I went to 5 prives in the Villa Mariana regions, all of which had reasonable reviews in the local forum. I walked from all of them, I think I saw one acceptable girl out of 20. For my taste.
Redway is one of the better ones, they can have some hot girls. I did a girl there, and then she left and spent the night with me. One of the best lays ever. But Redway is not that easy for visitors, it can be intimidating. The first time I went alone I was shown the downstairs bedroom which is located like right next to the kitchen. I was "WTF is this? I am practically in the kitchen? ". I did not stay that time. There is also typically a wait for rooms on a busy night, so be prepared to wait, best to have a buddy to chat with while you wait. The price is right, and the madam is a sweetie. There is a significant amount of turnover amongst the girls so there is no telling whether there will be hotties or dogs, usually a bit of both.
[QUOTE=OyiboAfrica]Thanks Bionicman for your help.
If I understand you correctly, as long as I find someone to come to the Marriott, they will let her in?
As I have roughly 24hrs in SP, would it make sense to go into town?
Thanks again for your help[/QUOTE]
If you have 24hrs go to town
you can go to a clinica for a massage with FS if you go in the afternoon (from 11a,)
or to some of the many palces reported here if in the evening and do a take away to your hotel.
Just account for up to 1.5/2hrs fromn town to airport each way if in rush hours
Gfe Finder,
Thanks for the report!
Do the girls speak English?
so I guess I should have expected that for Bomboa as well.
Dear Rovnak,
Thanks for your reply. I think we agree on some things and some others need clarification.
[QUOTE=Rovnak]GFE Finder, your observations are mainly correct except for the part about the ceilngs. I was at Bomboa 5 years ago, and frequently during the last 2 years. The layout is the same as always. [/QUOTE]
I said that it [i]seemed[/i] that way, not that it [i]was[/i] that way.
[QUOTE=Rovnak]Except that the girls do not wear bikinis, though they do wear tight short dresses and some are underwearless, and let me validate that surreptitiously. You can still make out on the floor. All that is good.
The hotel separation is a result of the prefeitura crack down. The bar and the hotel are separate establishments for legal reasons. The 10% surcharge was probably for using credit card. I usually pay cash.
300/hr is about right these days. Unfortunately, the high end market in SP favors the girls. Guys are paying 300/hr or more, even brasileiros. I read the gpguia forum regularly. [/QUOTE]
Then you know that the Bomboa section is not active, it’s archived. For whatever reason, it seems to be accessible only to members. Gringo that I am, I apparently can read but not join or contribute to the forum despite my efforts to sign up. I had to rely on fourmsd.com and my own memory for pricing information.
[QUOTE=Rovnak]That is why when I go to bomboa I prefer to collect phone numbers and set up private meetings on other days for outcall.[/QUOTE]
As I had recommended.
[QUOTE=Rovnak]Bomboa is still imo the best place for enjoying live music and being surrounded by hotties. [/QUOTE]
Since you brought it up—the live music was barely perceptible when I was there. I [i]saw[/i] a band playing, I didn’t [i]hear[/i] them all that often. It’s not really a big deal, I don’t go there for the music anyway.
[QUOTE=Rovnak]You just have to accept that it will hurt the wallet. There is no getting around it. Brazil high end mongering is no longer a bargain. If you want bargains you have to go to the lower end prives or boates or clinicas. Bomboa, Scandalo, Photo and Connection are ALL expensive. There is no getting around it, SP is expensive. I prefer the more relaxed ambience of Bomboa to the darker, strip club like Scandalo, and the more formal Photo. But to each his own. [/QUOTE]
Indeed. If you enjoy Bomboa then more power to you. I do find it troubling when SP’s prices are on par with or exceed First World pricing. Especially since I didn’t find the service to be better than the First World options with which I am familiar.
[QUOTE=Rovnak]The discouraging thing about SP is that there are no more top clubs opening. There are the elite clubs which are outrageously expensive but they do have large selections. The alternative are the lower end clubs where there are less than 20 girls and many uglies.[/QUOTE]
Now you know why I was so disheartened to read some time ago that Bahamas had closed. It was my favorite SP club back in the day, and with its disappearance, the remaining top clubs have apparently gotten worse.
[QUOTE=Rovnak]GFE Finder, i do think you are wrong in suggesting that the staff is greedy and unpleasant. I have never had anything but the nicest reception from the staff at bomboa. R35 for a glass of champagne is not a rip off. The beer is R25 i believe. At a 2:1 USD:Real (yes, i know it is not 2:1 now) rate those are reasonable drink prices in an top bar. [/QUOTE]
Here I’m afraid that I must respectfully disagree. I would absolutely call begging for a tip being greedy. I would absolutely call throwing in a previously unmentioned surcharge without adequate explanation being both greedy and unpleasant. And just to clarify, I paid everything in cash not credit card including the hotel so I will stand by my statements here. And as for the prices, at a more realistic 1.67:1 exchange rate, the price is ~$21/glass. I would call any drink more than $20 too expensive and while I admit such a limit is arbitrary, we all have to draw the line somewhere.
[QUOTE=Rovnak]I am not sure how much you know about Bomboa or SP in general, but none of the Boates are good on saturday night, except for the Augusta boates because of the general Augusta crowd on saturday is large. The other boates suck on saturday night as the locals have other engagements, the businessmen have returned to their home towns, and the girls are out of town. Tue, Wed, Thursday are the boate nights. There is a huge difference in the selection of girls at Bomboa or the other big clubs on Tue-Thur compared to saturday. [/QUOTE]
This I did not know. This is good information to have and I thank you for clarifying. My previous visits were all during a weekday; maybe that’s why they went so well. I’m a bit surprised that the dichotomy would be that strong, though.
[QUOTE=Rovnak]I think foreign visitors have to just accept that Brasil is not a bargain mongering destination at the high end of the scale. If you come to Brasil and expect to pinch pennies, then don't bother to go to the high end clubs. But if you want to see a club with > 50 girls there are not many choices outside of the expensive clubs. So the choice is yours, its all about expectations. If you want a bargain, go to the lower clubs and deal with the smaller selection. For a visitor with only a few days in town, they have to make a choice, spend the money and enjoy it, or lower your expectations and go to a cheaper place. The reality is that a strong Brasilian economy means more expensive mongering, unfortunately.[/QUOTE]
You are absolutely right that it’s getting more expensive in Sao Paulo and Rio at least, and this trend will almost certainly not reverse anytime soon, if ever. I do think I have a right to complain and warn people when prices exceed First World levels especially when the service is not better.
[QUOTE=Rovnak]Personally, i think that the big clubs should offer discount entrance on Saturdays. They used to. Bomboa and Photo both offered 1/2 price admission on saturday but Bomboa no longer does, and not sure about Photo. I don't bother to go during the off days for this reason.[/QUOTE]
And I wouldn’t blame you for doing so.
[QUOTE=landcruiser]Gfe Finder,
Thanks for the report!
Do the girls speak English?[/QUOTE]
landcruiser,
You're welcome! Unfortunately I don't know if the girls speak English as I always spoke Portuguese with them. My guess is that some may but most probably will not aside from a few basic phrases.
GFE Finder, I hope you take this as constructive debate. Yes we do agree on some things and disagree on others.
1) I will grant that your experience with tipping and extra rate was not good. I would be upset with such treatment as well. However, my point is that I never have received such treatment nor have I heard such complaints about the bomboa staff from other residents. Contrast this with Romanza which is notorious for abusing patrons. Your post might lead some to believe this practice is rampant at Bomboa. I am merely providing counterpoint b/c in all honesty the staff at Bomboa from security to barmen to checkout have always treated me nice. Maybe they treat gringos worse, as I speak portuguese I do not have that experience exactly. The tipping gesture, not sure where that is coming from maybe too many gringos have started to give tips and now they are expecting it.
The hotel surcharge, it is a good thing you warned people about this. I know the hotel situation is weird b/c of this whole legal thing. When I was last used the hotel, about a month ago, it was very late at night, there were plenty of free rooms. I kept laying there wondering when the phone would ring to say that the hour was up. It did not ring. We wound up overstaying by about 30 minutes as well. I was a bit agitated, and said "I hope they do not plan to charge me extra". And the girl said "they are no longer ringing the rooms b/c of the legal consideration. To avoid "participation" so to speak. I was surprised but not shocked by this explanation, as I know that Bomboa is trying to be very careful to avoid problems. In fact, they did not charge me more, so I was not upset. If they had charged me more, I would have been upset and I understand your frustration. I will ask for clarity on their policy next time. But it is a fair warning that visitors should watch the clock themselves from now on. In every boate. Or at least ask the policy before going to room.
Live music, quality of music, we just have to disagree there. I do in fact like Bomboa's atmosphere. I think it is one of the things that makes it special and I do not find this relaxed club like atmosphere in many other places, really none. Where the girls are dancing with the patrons for sheer fun, where they have 3 bands per night during busy days. The music volume is just right for me. If you want to hear the music loudly get close to the bandstand. If you want to converse without competing with the music you can stay further away. I like that freedom. I absolutely hate clubs where the music is so loud that you cannot converse without shouting. IMO the lower music level is a plus not a minus.
Drink prices. You are paying 200 to enter Bomboa, and you can use all of that for consumption of food and drink or lose it. That is 8 beers or 4 whiskeys, something like that. I would not have bought the girl a drink either, but not because of the price per se. I would not have bought her a drink b/c she asked right away. Regardless of the price. I generally chat with b/t 10 and 20 girls when I visit Bomboa, walking around. In all honesty, none of them ask me for a drink until I have indicated that I have some interest in continuing the conversation beyond 10 minutes. And even then, I have had many say "no, its not necessary" to my offer for a drink. Or 'just juice is fine". Again, this may be "tourist" treatment. There are some mercenaries in Bomboa, no doubt about it, no doubt about it. I am sure they specialize in seeing guys that look like they have money. Maybe my secret is that I dress like I have no money, which unfortunately is true now. LOL.
All the things you accuse Bomboa of being. Greedy and mercenary. Are the things that Bahammas was accused of being by the veterans of that time. In fact Bomboa was often cited as the antidote to the the mercenary setting in Bahamas. Go back and read the boards from that time. You may have had great times in Bahamas, but institutionally it was not known for being MORE customer friendly than Bomboa today.
I am not trying to be a "white knight" for Bomboa. I am trying to provide some perspective for people who have not visited and will be influenced by your post into thinking they should AVOID Bomboa. As if there are much better options for first time visitors? Other than avoiding boates altogether, tell me your alternative strategy? That is the part that bugged me about your post. What is the alternative? And what do you lose out on with the alternatives? You did not address that, and that is what I am responding to.
If you say "my alternative is to avoid boates and stick with clinicas and prives", then I will say "fine, that is a cost effective strategy and one that I use myself. But is that a reasonable strategy for visitors? " My point is that if a guy is in Sampa for one week and wants to see the best collection of pussy that he can, then he has to expect to pay a lot. If you want the feeling of being inside of a playboy mansion party, you have to pay a lot.
You make an interesting point about being bummed that you are paying 1st world prices in Brazil for the same or worse service and quality. Not sure what 1st world places you are referring to that have collections like Bomboa. I assume you mean European places, cause you sure as shit don't see anything like that in the USA. I have been to the best clubs in Prague (ie. K5), Moscow, SPB, Finland,, and Italy, and they do not compare in terms of numbers of girls and quality. I suspect there are clubs in Spain and Germany that are as good or better, my experience there is limited. What places are you referring to, as I would like to add them to my todo list. This is an sincere not provacative question.
But I do know this. The girls that return to Brasil from Europe are almost always way way more mercenary than the girls that have never been there. So even tho you may pay the same in Brasil, if you hook up with a girl that has never been to Europe, your chances of having a top notch GFE is much higher. So, yes, the prices may be 1st world now, but I think you can still get top notch service, and you get a Brasilian. I think that is what is the differentiator. If you like Brazilian chicks then I would take my chances with Brazilian chicks in Brazil over Brazilian chicks in Europe. Even for the same cost.
I know Photo, Kilt, Ilha the Fantasia, Connection, Liberal, Scandalo Lounge, Casarao, MM club, Tivoly, Garden, Romanza, Black Moon, Panthers, Misterium, Lady Night, etc. I have been to all of them in the past year. I took one visitor here on a club tour. We went to Bomboa one night. The next night I thought he would like some variety. So we went to Misterium as they were having an aniversary party. The place was full of girls, certainly 70, we walked through the place, and he said "lets go to Bomboa". Why? Because there were not as many lookers. I would have stayed, myself, as there were a few that caught my eye, but for a first time visitor who wants the best he can see in a short time, it was not worth saving R100 or even R200. Same thing, with another guy, we went thru Scandalo and although the club is better than 1st world in terms of organization and layout, the girls were fairly pedestrian.
I have been to Garden, which is a favorite of some veterans here, and it was a nice looking club. But it was midweek, when it should have been hopping and there were only about 30 girls there and they were no better than what I see at bomboa or photo or scandalo or connection. And the prices were the same or more. So I would take the 50 selection over the 30 selection anyday.
I am not saying that on any given night that Bomboa is the best place to go. But if you have to make a recommendation for 1 night to someone, I would say "it will cost you a lot, but you will have a lot more choice than other places" (other than Photo and Scandalo which are as expensive).
I am not "defending" Bomboa as much as defending the idea that if you want to go to a boate, then Bomboa is a good, imo the best, option. Except on Saturday and Monday nights. Although even then it is perhaps a better option than other clubs, just not as good as Tue-Thurs.
So all this leads me to the real question for you. Where would you suggest that a visitor go? That is what I really want to know from you? Which of those clubs or others are better for a person that only has a few nights in Sampa? And why? Obviously, it all comes down to cost-benefit. There are lower cost places, but if the girls are skanks, is that a good cost-benefit? If you want to do 1 girl than Photo is not an option. If you want to see 50 girls, then you have basically 5 options, maybe 6 if you are willing to travel to SBC. So what do you recommend? Calling an escort? What do you recommend to do at night after the clinicas and prives close?
gfe finder, you made the comparison of bomboa to centaurus "overpriced overrated". just so you understand, i am not one of these people that thinks higher price equals higher value. quite the opposite. recently, i have had some incredible experiences at prives, clinicas and casarao (lower cost boate).
in rio, i would agree with you regarding centaurus because there are other options which are better "values". if you see my reviews of years ago, i advocated solarium over centaurus, at that time. but in rio there are options. the options are very apples to apples. each terma can easily be compared to other termas.
when it comes to sao paulo, i have looked at the situation from every angle. the problem is that the comparisons are often apples to oranges. i also hate how expensive bomboa is, how formal photo is, how far connection is, how sterile scandalo feels to me, how few girls there are at the cheaper places. every place has its negative aspects. when i factor it all together and try to arrive at a good recommendation for a visitor, i am stuck saying "well, it depends on what you are looking for. ambience, choice, facilities, location, entrance fee, drinks included or not included in entrada, saida fee, room fee, girl fee. many factors to consider. to me there is no clear "best" boate because there are quite a few variables. a big drinker might spend more at photo because even tho then entrada is lower and there is no saida, the entrada does not include drinks. so if you buy a few drinks at photo, you may wind up paying more than the saida at bomboa. apples and oranges. on top of that you have to consider the day of the week. i would recommend casarao on saturday night, but not during the week. and bomboa vice versa.
maybe i am missing something, that is why i am pushing you on this issue. i am open to alternative perspectives. i understand that you may feel that the fkk in germany offer better value, i would not dispute that, if someone is looking for a "destination".
however, i would not recommend that someone make a special trip to sampa to monger, as it is expensive and things are rep001tered all over the place. but most people do not come to sampa to monger exclusively. they come because they have business and they just want to know the best they "value" they can find while they are here.
[QUOTE=Rovnak]GFE Finder, I hope you take this as constructive debate. Yes we do agree on some things and disagree on others.
1) I will grant that your experience with tipping and extra rate was not good. I would be upset with such treatment as well. However, my point is that I never have received such treatment nor have I heard such complaints about the bomboa staff from other residents. Contrast this with Romanza which is notorious for abusing patrons. Your post might lead some to believe this practice is rampant at Bomboa. I am merely providing counterpoint b/c in all honesty the staff at Bomboa from security to barmen to checkout have always treated me nice. Maybe they treat gringos worse, as I speak portuguese I do not have that experience exactly. The tipping gesture, not sure where that is coming from maybe too many gringos have started to give tips and now they are expecting it.[/QUOTE]
Since most of the people who read this forum are not Bomboa regulars and not everyone speaks fluent Portuguese, their experience with the staff would likely be closer to what mine was. Hence I think my conclusions and warnings regarding the staff are fair. And to clarify, even though the staff tried to speak English with me, I answered in Portuguese until they did as well.
[QUOTE=Rovnak]The hotel surcharge, it is a good thing you warned people about this. I know the hotel situation is weird b/c of this whole legal thing. When I was last used the hotel, about a month ago, it was very late at night, there were plenty of free rooms. I kept laying there wondering when the phone would ring to say that the hour was up. It did not ring. We wound up overstaying by about 30 minutes as well. I was a bit agitated, and said "I hope they do not plan to charge me extra". And the girl said "they are no longer ringing the rooms b/c of the legal consideration. To avoid "participation" so to speak. I was surprised but not shocked by this explanation, as I know that Bomboa is trying to be very careful to avoid problems. In fact, they did not charge me more, so I was not upset. If they had charged me more, I would have been upset and I understand your frustration. I will ask for clarity on their policy next time. But it is a fair warning that visitors should watch the clock themselves from now on. In every boate. Or at least ask the policy before going to room.[/QUOTE]
Ideally yes we should keep an eye on time but in the room there is rarely enough blood in our brains to focus on tasks like timekeeping! :D
Thanks for checking on this policy and please let us know what you find.
[QUOTE=Rovnak]Live music, quality of music, we just have to disagree there.[/QUOTE]
Fair enough. As I said its presence or absence was and is not a huge deal for me one way or the other.
[QUOTE=Rovnak] I do in fact like Bomboa's atmosphere. I think it is one of the things that makes it special and I do not find this relaxed club like atmosphere in many other places, really none. Where the girls are dancing with the patrons for sheer fun, where they have 3 bands per night during busy days. The music volume is just right for me. If you want to hear the music loudly get close to the bandstand. If you want to converse without competing with the music you can stay further away. I like that freedom. I absolutely hate clubs where the music is so loud that you cannot converse without shouting. IMO the lower music level is a plus not a minus. Drink prices. You are paying 200 to enter Bomboa, and you can use all of that for consumption of food and drink or lose it. That is 8 beers or 4 whiskeys, something like that. I would not have bought the girl a drink either, but not because of the price per se. I would not have bought her a drink b/c she asked right away. Regardless of the price.[/QUOTE]
I thought it was clear from my report, but her asking for a drink so quickly after having met me was indeed one of the reasons that I turned Maya away.
[QUOTE=Rovnak] I generally chat with b/t 10 and 20 girls when I visit Bomboa, walking around. In all honesty, none of them ask me for a drink until I have indicated that I have some interest in continuing the conversation beyond 10 minutes. And even then, I have had many say "no, its not necessary" to my offer for a drink. Or 'just juice is fine". Again, this may be "tourist" treatment. There are some mercenaries in Bomboa, no doubt about it, no doubt about it. I am sure they specialize in seeing guys that look like they have money. Maybe my secret is that I dress like I have no money, which unfortunately is true now. LOL.[/QUOTE]
You have no money and you come to Bomboa? ;) :)
[QUOTE=Rovnak] All the things you accuse Bomboa of being. Greedy and mercenary. Are the things that Bahammas was accused of being by the veterans of that time. In fact Bomboa was often cited as the antidote to the the mercenary setting in Bahamas. Go back and read the boards from that time. You may have had great times in Bahamas, but institutionally it was not known for being MORE customer friendly than Bomboa today. [/QUOTE]
I admit I didn’t research the boards back then as thoroughly as I do today. So, for all I know you are correct. Here’s what I can say: As a Gringo with even worse Portuguese 5 years ago, I had great times in Bahamas.
[QUOTE=Rovnak] I am not trying to be a "white knight" for Bomboa. I am trying to provide some perspective for people who have not visited and will be influenced by your post into thinking they should AVOID Bomboa. As if there are much better options for first time visitors? Other than avoiding boates altogether, tell me your alternative strategy? That is the part that bugged me about your post. What is the alternative? And what do you lose out on with the alternatives? You did not address that, and that is what I am responding to. [/QUOTE]
I can’t recommend alternatives without knowing what specifically someone wants. Do you want to fuck Playboy models who may or may not give you good service with a heavy probability toward the latter? Do you want cheap, cheap, cheap? Do you want to see the girls naked before you consider fucking them? Do you want a place with reasonable odds of getting good service? Do you only have a short time to spare and need to be in and out quickly? My answer would probably change for each of these.
In the interest of disclosure and speaking strictly for myself, I focus heavily on excellent service for a reasonable price. I want to walk away happy and satisfied, as do we all. I found good service for a decent price at Redway. Hence I would be inclined to return there [i]and recommend it if you are looking for good service at a good price[/i]. I would also point out and I’m sure you’d agree that Sao Paulo is a big city with a diverse array of P4P options at nearly every price point.
[QUOTE=Rovnak] If you say "my alternative is to avoid boates and stick with clinicas and prives", then I will say "fine, that is a cost effective strategy and one that I use myself. But is that a reasonable strategy for visitors? " My point is that if a guy is in Sampa for one week and wants to see the best collection of pussy that he can, then he has to expect to pay a lot. If you want the feeling of being inside of a playboy mansion party, you have to pay a lot.[/QUOTE]
See above. I can’t give a recommendation without a criteria; one of the lessons of this hobby is that one size does not fit all or even most.
You don’t necessarily have to pay more to find Playboy model types (who I refer to as optifucks); if you have patience and luck you can find them at the cheaper venues. They might be more concentrated at the higher cost venues like Bomboa, this is true.
[QUOTE=Rovnak] You make an interesting point about being bummed that you are paying 1st world prices in Brazil for the same or worse service and quality. Not sure what 1st world places you are referring to that have collections like Bomboa. I assume you mean European places, cause you sure as shit don't see anything like that in the USA. I have been to the best clubs in Prague (ie. K5), Moscow, SPB, Finland,, and Italy, and they do not compare in terms of numbers of girls and quality. I suspect there are clubs in Spain and Germany that are as good or better, my experience there is limited. What places are you referring to, as I would like to add them to my todo list. This is an sincere not provacative question.[/QUOTE]
There seems to be a curse in that once I name a club to someone as having the world's best collection of optifucks, it gets closed down. First there was Club Bahamas in Sao Paulo. Then there was Club Riviera in Barcelona. I’ve been to K5 and found much to my disappointment that the prettier the girl, the worse the service was. You had to slide your scale below 6/10 before finding a girl who would even kiss, let alone allow DATY.
So, if you really want optifucks (who may or may not give good service) try the Hessen 3 near Frankfurt, Germany (i.e. FKK Palace, Oase, and World.) 30-100+ girls at a given time, many optifucks, the vast majority are <25, all bare-ass naked so no surprises in the room. Here’s the pricing:
1 hour at Bomboa:
R$200 entry +R$20 surcharge + R$120 hotel charge + R$300 for the girl = R$640 or approximately $384. For comparison, one US hobby board defines “high-end” escorts at $400/hr. and above.
1 hour at FKK Oase/World: (FKK Palace is 10 € more expensive to enter)
65 € entry + 50 € per half hour with standard BBBJ and DFK = 165 € or approximately $231.
You also get free access to a sauna, pool, whirlpool, outdoor garden, and all the food and drink you want.
I used to live in Spain so I can say that the clubs also had a broader selection that Bomboa (100-150 sometimes at Barcelona's Club Riviera and Madrid's Flowers Park) and again the vast majority are optifucks.
Take 1 hour at Flowers Park as an example since Club Riviera is no more:
5 € entry + 2 * 70 € for a half hour + 20 € for drinks = 165 € or $231 as above.
So yes, based on these two examples Bomboa is more expensive than some First World venues which score better in terms of quality and quantity of optifucks available. That is why I was concerned and said so in my report.
[QUOTE=Rovnak] But I do know this. The girls that return to Brasil from Europe are almost always way way more mercenary than the girls that have never been there. So even tho you may pay the same in Brasil, if you hook up with a girl that has never been to Europe, your chances of having a top notch GFE is much higher. So, yes, the prices may be 1st world now, but I think you can still get top notch service, and you get a Brasilian. I think that is what is the differentiator. If you like Brazilian chicks then I would take my chances with Brazilian chicks in Brazil over Brazilian chicks in Europe. Even for the same cost.
I know Photo, Kilt, Ilha the Fantasia, Connection, Liberal, Scandalo Lounge, Casarao, MM club, Tivoly, Garden, Romanza, Black Moon, Panthers, Misterium, Lady Night, etc. I have been to all of them in the past year. I took one visitor here on a club tour. We went to Bomboa one night. The next night I thought he would like some variety. So we went to Misterium as they were having an aniversary party. The place was full of girls, certainly 70, we walked through the place, and he said "lets go to Bomboa". Why? Because there were not as many lookers. I would have stayed, myself, as there were a few that caught my eye, but for a first time visitor who wants the best he can see in a short time, it was not worth saving R100 or even R200. Same thing, with another guy, we went thru Scandalo and although the club is better than 1st world in terms of organization and layout, the girls were fairly pedestrian.
I have been to Garden, which is a favorite of some veterans here, and it was a nice looking club. But it was midweek, when it should have been hopping and there were only about 30 girls there and they were no better than what I see at bomboa or photo or scandalo or connection. And the prices were the same or more. So I would take the 50 selection over the 30 selection anyday.
I am not saying that on any given night that Bomboa is the best place to go. But if you have to make a recommendation for 1 night to someone, I would say "it will cost you a lot, but you will have a lot more choice than other places" (other than Photo and Scandalo which are as expensive).
I am not "defending" Bomboa as much as defending the idea that if you want to go to a boate, then Bomboa is a good, imo the best, option. Except on Saturday and Monday nights. Although even then it is perhaps a better option than other clubs, just not as good as Tue-Thurs.[/QUOTE]
Believe me, I [i]wanted[/i] to write a good review for Bomboa. That’s why I started my review the way that I did. I succumbed to the same thought process you just mentioned: a few nights in SP, best odds for a good time because of the high concentration of pretty girls.
[b]There is a huge hole in this thought process, however: it does not take service or price into account. Bomboa fails miserably on both of these counts as far as I’m concerned.[/b] And yes, I hope readers remember this when deciding whether or not to go there.
[QUOTE=Rovnak] So all this leads me to the real question for you. Where would you suggest that a visitor go? That is what I really want to know from you? Which of those clubs or others are better for a person that only has a few nights in Sampa? And why? Obviously, it all comes down to cost-benefit. There are lower cost places, but if the girls are skanks, is that a good cost-benefit? If you want to do 1 girl than Photo is not an option. If you want to see 50 girls, then you have basically 5 options, maybe 6 if you are willing to travel to SBC. So what do you recommend? Calling an escort? What do you recommend to do at night after the clinicas and prives close?[/QUOTE]
Again, I want to be more helpful but without further information on specific criteria I cannot. I’m not trying to cop out; I’m simply trying to say that my answer could change. As I mentioned above, Redway had good service for a good price so I recommend the place with that caveat.
What about when they close? I cannot stay up that late so personally I can’t be helpful there. If you can stay up late, I’ve heard good things about Love Story but I’ll defer to someone who’s actually been there to talk about what you can find in terms of looks, service, and price.
Good discussion,
Your clarifications are helpful. I will focus only on those that still warrant further discussion. Thanks for the FKK listing, I someday expect to have that pleasure. Certainly the FKK has the advantage of ethnic and national variety. I did go to one FKK in Berlin but it was a city FKK, not like the resort style that I have seen in the ads for the bigger FKKs.
Back to SP. See your answer to my question "What do you recommend then? " is the same as mine. "It depends on what you are looking for". It seems you did not provide a significantly better alternative for the high end "optifuck" in SP. That was and is my point.
Bomboa may be less affordable than you want or expect, but for optifucks there are not many alternatives, and when you factor everything together. Entrance, saida, drinks, transportation, room fee, girl fee, single hour or multi hour. Etc. The top 4 Photo, Scandalo, Photo and Bomboa are all outrageously expensive. I know some locals who favor Scandalo, some who favor Bomboa, and some who favor Photo and some who favor Connection. In most cases, the differentiator is ambience, which type of bar scene do they prefer. Because the girls come and go and actually move from one club to the other over time anyway. And I know other locals who swear they will never go to a boate and only go to clinicas and prives.
One boate, alternative is to go to smaller joints, entrances b/t 20 and $R80 and go from one to the other until you find one you like. However, when you factor in multiple entrances and taxi fares to go from one to the other, it may come out to almost as much as the big boate.
I really think you are e overstating the "service problem" at Bomboa. You had a negative service experience, but lets hear from other visitors before coming to a conclusion about this as a trend or not.
I was not asking for myself, as I have my own formula, as do you. I was asking mostly because I show some visitors around once in a while and I want to show them the most satisfactory places. Your standards are perhaps out of skew with a lot of other SP visitors b/c your benchmark is the FKK scene which is one of the best in the world.
To me, there is no magic formula either. However, if you think about it in terms of law of averages, the more girls in a house, the greater the odds that you will see one or more that you really like. This favors the bigger boates. Second, if you can interact and chat with the girls, flirt and kiss even, that favors the idea that you will actually find one that is responsive to you. That again favors the boates, some more than others (degree of flirting, touching, kissing). So when I go to a boate, or recommend that someone go to a boate, it is really to maximize those 2 criteria. Number of girls and pre-deal evaluation. Maybe if you had been at Bomboa on a Thursday night when there are 150 girls in house you might have had a different impression.
If you do not want an optifuck and you are willing to settle for a collection of 10-20 girls to choose from, then there are indeed a tremendous number of places to check out.
As for Love Story, it is in a really seedy part of town, the crowd is very late night disco crowd, very druggy scene. I went only one time so my report is subject to some of the same things I criticize in yours. When I went the place was packed but I only saw one girl that I considered "hot". The rest were ordinary or worse for my taste. For people who like the disco scene it is a viable alternative, but go with the intent of dancing and having that type of fun. I would not recommend it for someone who is specifically looking for P4P only.
Sorry GFE Finder, I think you misunderstood my question regarding "what about when they close? " I think you interpreted my question as "what about when the boates close? " and you responded with Love Story.
I was not asking about "what about when the boates close", I was asking "what about when the clinicas and the prives close? ". That was my question, as their is no disputing that the clinicas and prives are far far cheaper option. I was merely trying to make you focus on the after 10pm options, in order to keep the discussion on "which boate would you recommend" rather than have it dovetail into a clinica is better than boate discussion.
[QUOTE=Gfe Finder]
... So, what would I say in summary?
[b]This place has become Sao Paulo’s answer to Termas Centaurus.[/b] If either is worth visiting at all (and neither is), they would be worth going to just once to satisfy curiosity or to say that you’ve done it. Both places are overpriced and overrated with greedy and unhelpful staff and ridiculous policies. Oh sure, you’ll find pretty girls there but the smarter thing to do (if possible) is to get numbers and meet outside of work just to avoid going to these awful, awful places.
Against my better judgment and for the sake of completeness only, I will include contact information below. Please do not construe this as an endorsement:
Bomboa American Bar
Prices:
Entry, R$200, R$20 surcharge (apparently) for taking a girl to the room.
Sex: R$300/hr. Services beyond intercourse must be negotiated.
Hotel: R$120/hr.[/QUOTE]
Overpriced - Overrated, that's for sure.
Paying those kind of prices are for the very rich or the very foolish tourists, IMHO, no offense intended.
As an example, you can visit Casarao on Ave Augusta on a busy Thurs-Saturday night and find garotas just as beautiful and have them for as low as 125R, which includes the room, if you know how to talk to them. And the entrance fee is only 10R which includes 2 drinks.
Easily get their phone number for later get togethers.
The place is no Playboy Mansion, nor overly-elegant, but the staff is nice and honest, the place is decent, especially when they open the back bar on the busy nights, and you can find some gems.
Be advised that drinks for the garotas can be expensive. The garotas earn half the drink price of about 40R.
I usually just offer them one of my cervejas (beers) and tell them I'd rather give them a little tip later. Works well.
I dig this place for hunting new amigas, and I don't feel like paying ridiculous prices.
Boa sorte ...
Ricker, I agree that Casarao is a good place on Friday / Saturday night for a cheap fuck and a reasonable selection. I would not say that the girls are "just as beautiful", there are SOME hot girls in Casarao, but imo the average looks are significantly lower than the elite clubs. But you are only screwing the ones you like, so a few is enough.
However, if more folks go to Casarao it will be impossible to get in the door. It is already over crowded on a Saturday night. The difference b/t Casarao and the elite clubs is that Casarao is like a college bar, beer on the floor, music so f'n loud you are for sure suffering hearing loss by just being there, a crowd so dense that you have to plot your way across the floor by pushing people out of the way. To get to the cabin rooms you literally pass thru the girls dressing rooms , lol. The time in the room are 40minutes, not 60 i believe. Rooms are 40R , girls ask for 125, not sure if you are getting the girl to agree to 80 when you suggest 125 including room? Whatever, that is small difference either way.
Sure, Casarao is a good option for the experience described above. I went there and did 2 girls a few weeks ago, and both were quite good. It was definitely a better value than the higher end clubs for saturday night, as I said below in my reply to GFE Finder.
But i do not completely agree with your comment about the higher end clubs being 'Paying those kind of prices are for the very rich or the very foolish tourists, IMHO, no offense intended.' ... you speak in absolutes. The experiences b/t Casarao and Photo/Bomboa/Scandalo are radically different. One is a sleazy, smelly, lets be honest, pretty dirty place, albeit cheap and with some good girls ... and the other places are outrageously expensive but immaculate, with lots of girls, food, etc. Its like comparing Burger King to a fine steak house. Sometimes Burger King is great and sometimes you want the steak house treatment. To each his own, no reason to call the guys who want to go to the steakhouse fools.
Ok, maybe your $R125 is the 30 minute price. I was wrong when I wrote 40 minutes for $R40 room. I think the options are 30 minutes, rooom 20, or 1 hour, room 40, is that right?
[QUOTE=Rovnak]Good discussion,[/QUOTE]
Agreed, and I'm glad that my recommendations were helpful. Focusing on where I think further discussion would be fruitful:
[QUOTE=Rovnak]To me, there is no magic formula either.[/quote]
Then why keep asking me for specific alternatives? It's a pointless question, for exactly this reason. No place will solve every monger's need. I can't recommend [i]the[/i] alternative to Bomboa because there isn't one. I can only tell you that it's a waste of time and money in my experience.
Sao Paulo is a big city, there are plenty of other places to take your visiting friends. Just ask them what they want, not what I like!
[QUOTE=Rovnak] However, if you think about it in terms of law of averages, the more girls in a house, the greater the odds that you will see one or more that you really like. This favors the bigger boates. [/quote]
You are making an argument for selection quantity as a criteria. Once upon a time, I agreed with this logic. However, since most guys will typically only do 1-2 sessions/boate visit, all it takes are 1-2 quality ones. This is why I'm more focused on reputation and board research rather than simply defaulting to the tourist havens like Bomboa.
[QUOTE=Rovnak]As for Love Story,... I would not recommend it for someone who is specifically looking for P4P only.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for sharing your take.
[QUOTE=Rovnak]To each his own, no reason to call the guys who want to go to the steakhouse fools.[/quote]
If you truly believe that, I have a few places in the Nevada desert that I can recommend to you. I guarantee you'll change your opinion after a visit there! :D
On a more serious note, my point (and Ricker's too probably) is that there's no reason to pay exorbitant prices when quality girls can be found elsewhere. I keep pressing you on this because although you've tried to justify/excuse Bomboa's exorbitant prices and staff and policies, there is no excuse if cheaper alternatives with comparable quality and service are available.
If you do you homework, you won't need to run from place to place. That's the purpose of boards like this one. They tell you and you know what to expect.
I don't mind you pressing me, I am pressing you
I was pressing you because you trashed one place and then did not give any alternatives for that same profile. What to do after 10pm when the clinicas and prives are closed. There are only boates and escorts. Escorts are a crap shoot. That leaves boates. I asked you a simple question. Which other boate would you recommend and why? You replied with no concrete recommendation other than "it depends". You did not suggest which are these other places with quality girls that enlightened mongers know about, but you did not list any of them or suggest how they compare.
You claim to have loved the Bahamas of a few years ago but hate the Bomboa of today, when Bomboa is basically Bahamas 5 years later with typical Brasil inflation. I went to Bahamas and Bomboa when both were open. Bahamas was more expensive than Bomboa. If both were still open, I am sure both would be comparably expensive. You are more illogical than me in this respect. If you said to me "I never bother with the expensive clubs" I would understand your position better. But you cite as the gold standard a club that was at least as expensive as Bomboa, and now call anybody who goes to Bomboa a fool, even though the cost of mongering has gone up everywhere in Brasil, while the dollar has fallen.
When I pressed you for alternatives you did not list any. When I replied to Riddicks eval of Casarao I gave concrete details about the trade offs b/t Casarao and other places. I was pressing you for similar eval of places other than Bomboa. I was not trying to convince YOU that Bomboa was worth your money as you have made it clear that it is not. I was trying to determine what you do consider to be a good value here in SP.
BTW, Bomboa can accomodate 100. 150 ladies. I don't know why you need be so skeptical on that point, as it seems unnecessarily challenging to an otherwise reasonable debate. And yes, that is my biggest point in why under SOME conditions I think Bomboa is worth it. To see and interact with such a collection of beauty is fun and sometimes worth the extravagance. I can get my rocks off many other ways, but this hobby is about more than just the cheapest fuck. Some guys treat this hobby like a contest to see who can spend the least or the most. For me, the dollars are a consideration but not THE consideration. There are well known posters on this forum who love Garden. I don't try to talk them out of going to Garden. If they like it, more power to them. I went once, did not think it was worth it and have not gone back. However, I respect that for their circumstances and their objectives that Garden is the just right spot for them. I was trying to find out what your just right spot is, but failed. Other than Bahamas of 5 years ago.
[QUOTE=Rovnak]... Its like comparing Burger King to a fine steak house. Sometimes Burger King is great and sometimes you want the steak house treatment. To each his own, no reason to call the guys who want to go to the steakhouse fools.[/QUOTE]
Point well taken, the word foolish was a bit harsh.
I'd give Casarao more of a nice 'Steak and Shake' feel as opposed to Burger King, and Bomboa more of the over-priced fancy steakhouse in town that sometimes you just say WTF and visit.
Tough for me to want to pay 600R ttl for entrance fee, hotel fee and a short time with a garota.
I normally like to enter Casarao on the busy nights no later than between 11 to 1130 PM, get a seat at the bar next to the entrance and watch the garotas coming in and out of the dressing room.
You're right though, the place gets quite busy and crowded later, but that's when I split anyway.
I've met some real cuties there and have gotten numbers off girls for future fun at the hotel, though I do in house occasionally.
The prices, rooms: 25R for 40 minutes / 40R for the hour.
Garota minimum: 100R
If I feel like being with a garota for in-house fun, I just tell her nicely in conversation that I'll help her with 100R and pay for the room.
Almost always get a 'tudo bem' :)
I think you are missing the point of my query. I know what is good for me. I have done my homework, I have visited nearly every place there is to visit in SP. I'm the one who told you that Bomboa on a saturday night is dead. I have a list of all the places I like and the ones and MY reasons for liking or disliking each one.
Sometimes the recommendations on this board and the local boards are spot on, and sometimes they are way off imo.
Example - the local monger board has consistently high marks for MM Club. This is about as far off the tourist track as you can get. This is a mid range local boate that routinely gets positive marks from the local mongers. I went 2 times, with visiting friends. Both times my friends were underwhelmed and wanted to leave right away. The entrance was $R20 , there were 10-20 girls, the place was spotless, very clean, far cleaner than Augusta places, but the girls were very ordinary.
I can give you plenty of examples of low end and mid range places that have good reviews but I have been there, seen them with my own eyes, and I would not fuck any of the girls in there FOR FREE. Not one. There are a boat load of boates down at the bottom of Ave. Sto Amaro, supposedly "good value" boates. They are full of uglies. I'm sorry, but that is not a good value unless you are desperate.
You tell me, "ask your friends what they like". You know what most guys say to that question "take me to the place with the best girls". That is what they say.
I was trying to get you to compare and contrast because as someone who did not like Bomboa, I was curious what you do like. Understand? You are an interesting case because you have been to Bomboa and were not happy. That is why I found your review interesting. I thought, "aha ... let's see what this guy does like".
i asked you if you prefer any of the other high end boates and you did not say. I asked you if you prefer any of the other mid range boates and you did not say. So there you go.
Trust me, if there were good value alternatives to the big boates I would be all over them. I have been to the Sto Amaro batch, I have been to MM, I have been to Sao Bernardo do Campo - Liberal, I recommend it, but its a good R$100 taxi ride there and back.
Lets define mid range as less than 100 to enter and girls for 200 hr. ok?
The ones that I see as reasonably "reliable" alternatives are:
Ilha da Fantasia
Liberal in SBC
Casarao on weekends in particular is a value op.
By reliable, I mean, that there is a good chance the place will have some decent girls.
Connection is borderline b/t mid range and high end. The entrance meet the mid range criteria, but it is so far away that you spend at least an extra 40 - 60 on taxi, so that pumps up the "real" cost. And forget about take out from Connection b/c the saida is even higher than Bomboa.
These nearby streets have between them between 20 and 40 spots that you can check out for a small or no entry fee. The touts that represent these places may actually allow you to take a peak inside before you spend the 7 to 10 reals entry fee for these excellent value venues. Anytime I spend time in Sao Paolo I try to go to the area at least once. My first experience with a GDP in Brazil was in this area and, yes, on a scale of 1 to 10 she was a 10! I never saw her again even though I kept going back looking for her. They can be hit and miss. However, if you take your time, I am sure a lady for anyone's taste can be found at these places.
[QUOTE=Gfe Finder]
Contact Information:
Redway Prive
Open:
M-Sa 10h-22h
Rua Machado de Assis 449
+55 (11) 5081-7195
+55 (11) 5571-8334
[url]www.redway.com.br[/url]
Prices:
R$90/hr. (certain services beyond intercourse must be negotiated and are not available with all girls)[/QUOTE]
From Ana Rosa, it looks like you can take the 508L, 724A, or 857R eastbound one stop to Dr. Jose de Queiros. From there, you could walk 1.5 blocks east then 1 block south.
The line that goes directly in front of it is useless.
[QUOTE=Rovnak]
...The ones that I see as reasonably "reliable" alternatives are:
Ilha da Fantasia
Liberal in SBC...
By reliable, I mean, that there is a good chance the place will have some decent girls...
Connection is borderline b/t mid range and high end. [/QUOTE]
Okay, the reward for reading you guys' extensive dialogue is that I can press you on the above points. Could you provide more detailed reviews of these places?
Most of my Sampa reports concentrated between '05 and '08 with a smattering in '02 and even fewer recently revolved around "Deep Augusta." Maison and New Maison, the sauna place (that was as hot as a sauna throughout), the glitzy place next to that, and Night-something were all a lot of fun, especially with a wingman or 2. Which places are the most fun, now??
Back to the other side of town, there were a couple of "okay" places east of Santo Amarro on Enrique Petroni. The first one on the right was better, but both were fun enough. Are they still in business? Cafe' Brasil and Kalila, I believe. Any recent events?
On the nighttime subject... in Sao Paulo, when the exchange rate bottomed last time, my pattern changed significantly. I found spending 120R at Clinica Kin (or the equivalent) in the day for an hour followed by legitimate fun checking out the robust nightlife scene in the Olympia area (or the equivalent) made the most sense for all-encompassing fun.
Be there a week from today for the first time in a good while-- looking forward to it!
before we bore this forum to tears.
Rovnak, I think I owe you, Ricker, Voyajer1, and Full Throttle a thank you for elaborating on alternative boates and venues. I'm guessing that I'm not alone in saying that I'm glad that readers now have here a fairly extensive list of alternatives to consider and pursue.
However, I think we've reached the limit of what we can productively discuss publicly. You've asked about my personal tastes and rather than bore the board with my quirks, I'd rather continue the discussion with you via PM. I'm guessing no one else here would object.
[QUOTE=Gfe Finder]before we bore this forum to tears.
Rovnak, I think I owe you, Ricker, Voyajer1, and Full Throttle a thank you for elaborating on alternative boates and venues. I'm guessing that I'm not alone in saying that I'm glad that readers now have here a fairly extensive list of alternatives to consider and pursue.
However, I think we've reached the limit of what we can productively discuss publicly. You've asked about my personal tastes and rather than bore the board with my quirks, I'd rather continue the discussion with you via PM. I'm guessing no one else here would object.[/QUOTE]
Actually the SP forum had been quite dead.
I enjoyed the banter :)
I'll be back there in a couple days :) :)
[QUOTE=Gfe Finder]landcruiser,
You're welcome! Unfortunately I don't know if the girls speak English as I always spoke Portuguese with them. My guess is that some may but most probably will not aside from a few basic phrases.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reports from Gfe Finder, and Bearsk.
I wrote an email to Aisha Ventura, and she responded in a couple of days, quoting R$250 / hour + taxi. Her written English seems to be fine.
Meanwhile I sent an inquiry from Redway's website, asking if they (and the girls) speak English. I didn't really expect to get a response, but wanted to take a chance. I got a response fairly quickly from "RedWay", with understandable English.
So I went to Redway yesterday around 6pm. I felt it quite safe walking from the metro station to the address. Seems to be a decent neighborhood. I got in and there were a couple of guys waiting. I was told there is about 12 girls more or less.
About 6 girls were sent out to greet me. They are either a bit old, or not that attractive. There was one decent looking. But I wanted to see more. So I decided to wait a bit. An attractive girl went out but directly to the out door. Not sure if she's done for the day. Then a decent looking girl (in her 20s) with a good smile came out. I decide to pick her. I'd rate her 7 for the look.
They led me to a room, and I think they mentioned (with pretty bad English) they will show me more girls. Well, I was confused. I thought I already picked the girl. Not sure if I gave her the right message. Yeah, of all the girls greeted me, only one speaks a little English. While I was taking a shower, the girl I picked opened the door, and let another girl come in for me to have a look, while I'm naked! :-) I really didn't know if we were understanding each other. Anyways the new girl looks good, but I didn't want to change at that point. Sex was good, with kiss and BBBJ. And she's pretty nice and patient. No rush at good.
All in all, I think it really depends on what you are looking for. To me, it's a decent fuck with a good price. I was glad I tried it. Obviously, I didn't go to Aisha Ventura.
I may go back to Redway again today before my flight.
Any suggestios for prives or massage places that will be open Tues.? How about night life?
[QUOTE=Full Throttle]Any suggestios for prives or massage places that will be open Tues.? How about night life?[/QUOTE]
Last year Redway was open for dia do finados.
Mongers it'll be Formula 1 weekend so be prepare for the influx of new garotas semi pro etc. I usually go down every year but this year isn't possible with work. F1 weekend brings out the most beautiful semi pros to come out of the wood works to make a ton of money in one weekend. You'll find them at Garden, Cafe Photo, and Bomboa. They will ask for more but I always paid the usual going rate despite the F1 weekend but I haven't been there in 6 months so I don't know if much has changed at these clubs. I've been going to Panama lately because its a shorter trip and its where the hot columbianas work. I still give garotas the notch over the chicas though in terms of looks and performance. Have fun whoever is going!
I'm leaving SP today and during my stay I was able to have a couple good sessions at a clinica and at a privat thanks to the guidance of Rovnak. He was most helpful. Unfortunately my schedule didn't allow me to visit a boate for some late night fun. Hopefully on the next trip.
I went to Clinica Carinas, located at Avenida dos Carinás, 439 in the Moema. There I looked through the book and chose to meet with Iara. She was extremely beautiful, a spinner, with long brown hair and a beautiful face. Perhaps 5'5". If she were taller she'd no doubt be a very successful model. You can see her picture (face blurred) at [url]www.clincacarinas.com.br[/url] (phone 11 5044 2044)
The sex was OK. She moved well, she sucked well. But she had her steps pre-planned and she was going to stick to the script no matter how hard I tried to inject a little spontaneity. We both showered, then she gave me a massage while I lay on my stomach, then some oral on the flip, followed by rolling the condom on with her mouth, more oral, then CG, then reverse CG, and then we finished doggie. There's an ensuite shower and the room and shower were very clean. She was a nice, pleasant, sweet young lady; perhaps 24 with MMs that were too large for her slender frame. The book at the front desk shows pictures of her before she had a boob job and those perky B's were perfect. Her body was rock hard and extremely tight in the belly. I can't recall the exact cost but it was about R $170 or about US $100 for the hour.
On another day Rovnak joined me in a cab ride to a privat called Espacio Morumbi, located at Rua Chafic Maluf, 101 (phone 11 5041-5128), a quick cab ride from the Hilton Morumbi. There were perhaps 7 girls working. At this place, the girls come out separately to personally introduce themselves. I made my selection (Anita) and we went to a room upstairs. This girl rocked. She was extremely cute with a slim body. A little too short for me - maybe 5'3" but I was graciously willing to overlook that detail. Natural, small B's and a shapely rear end. She was really into the sex. After showering I gave her a massage and she seemed to really like that. After that she was putty in my hands. We both had a very explosive time. The cost was only R $70, only US $42 US.
Many thanks to Rovnak for his help in navigating Sao Paulo.
Hello All,
Wanna hit to SP after one week stay in Rio aprox on Nov.19.
As it will be a 2-3 days trip, I want to have an accomodation not expensive but sure. Couldn't see a SP Accomodation section. 2 days can be a short time for renting an apartment!
What can be the best and sure bet for GDPs/termas/discos/clubs?
Also can PM me.
Thanks a lot in advance
[QUOTE=Hobbying]Mongers it'll be Formula 1 weekend so be prepare for the influx of new garotas semi pro etc. I usually go down every year but this year isn't possible with work. F1 weekend brings out the most beautiful semi pros to come out of the wood works to make a ton of money in one weekend. You'll find them at Garden, Cafe Photo, and Bomboa. They will ask for more but I always paid the usual going rate despite the F1 weekend but I haven't been there in 6 months so I don't know if much has changed at these clubs. I've been going to Panama lately because its a shorter trip and its where the hot columbianas work. I still give garotas the notch over the chicas though in terms of looks and performance. Have fun whoever is going![/QUOTE]
Some clubs are opened also sunday night to catch the F1 traffic...
I ending up staying at a hotel called Bourbon Convention. It's in the Moema section of town, walking distance from a few good clinicas (see Carina's below, though their website isn't working today). Cost was about $120 US through booking.com including breakfast. It's comparable to an older Hilton but still in good shape. It's next door to a large shopping mall and in the area are many good restaurants. You'd still need a cab to get to the boates at night but I'd bet you'd want a cab from just about any hotel.
[QUOTE=Samy69]Hello All,
Wanna hit to SP after one week stay in Rio aprox on Nov.19.
As it will be a 2-3 days trip, I want to have an accomodation not expensive but sure. Couldn't see a SP Accomodation section. 2 days can be a short time for renting an apartment!
What can be the best and sure bet for GDPs/termas/discos/clubs?
Also can PM me.
Thanks a lot in advance[/QUOTE]
Thanks to S.G. for the holiday tip. I called Redway on Tuesday, a holiday. The girl who answered said there were 4 girls working that day.
I took a bus from the Murumbi area that dropped me off right next to the Ana Rosa metro station. From there, it is only a couple of blocks down Verguiero, a left turn on Machado de Assis, and 3-4 blocks down the hill. The return walk is a little worse because it's up hill. Fortunately, there are a couple of restaurants and bars to refresh along the way.
First, I was quite impressed with the facility. For a 90R establishment, it was unbelievable, really. It is a fair-sized house with direct entry from the street. The living room in the front serves as the waiting area. There seemed to be 1 room downstairs and 2-3 upstairs. There must be somewhere else to go on or around the property, as there would be a serious logjam during normal times.
As advertised on the phone, there were 4 girls working, 1 occupied. Right after the "presentation," the madam-girl apologized saying there would be 15 girls there the following day to choose from. One of the three girls was 40+, but in nice shape and friendly. The second was in her mid-30's, fair-complected and also very nice. The 3rd, Angela, was stunning. 5' 3" (aren't they all?), 120 pounds (20 contained in her huge tits), and Brazilian dark. Maybe morena, but, if so, on the very light end of that scale.
So, we went upstairs to a large room with a king sized bed and a 42" LCD TV playing really hardcore porn. There is a common bathroom upstairs for showering. The pre-shower was done one at a time, the post-shower was together.
Nice BBBJ with attention to balls, very responsive to DATY, and a very nice disposition. LFK at best, but you can't have everything. She is in very good shape as her various muscles were hard as rocks when she flexed them.
The thing that shocked me most was her tits. They were DD at least, she was fit and skinny, yet the tits were real. They are, by far, the biggest natural set on a near-spinner I have ever seen. I started make trying to figure out where they came from. Kids? Nope, she is 23 and no kids. Finally, it came to me. Risking social etiquette, I asked her if she used to be fat. Sure enough, she said very fat. She now goes to the gym every day.
Fortunately, she caught it early because there is no other sign of that transformation. What's funny is that, if she were in the States, she would be universally lusted after. In Brazil, they just don't seem to care about tits that much.
The following day, I went by Clinica Kin Prof. Jose Marques da Cruz, 235). My favorite madam wasn't there, but little else had changed. They are now 120R for 30 minutes and 150R for the hour. It wasn't more than a half-decade ago that the real was 3X1 and Kin cost 115R for the hour. $30 has morphed into $90 for the identical service. Oh, well. Better than the USA and you aren't risking arrest, so I'll deal with it.
On the same street, Berrinis is still directly across, and now there is another place next door (289, I believe).
I also verified that a nice little prive is still around. R. Jaceru, 177. Between Roque Petroni and Ave. Murumbi. It used to be 40R. I didn't check the price this time, but, given how everything else has gone, probably 75R or more now.
Finally, I have compiled a pretty good map for Sao Paulo (and ones for many other places, too). I would be happy to have collaborators. Just send me a PM that includes your email, and I'll share it with you.
FT
[QUOTE=Full Throttle]Thanks to S. G. For the holiday tip. I called Redway on Tuesday, a holiday. The girl who answered said there were 4 girls working that day.
The 3rd, Angela, was stunning. 5' 3" (aren't they all?), 120 pounds (20 contained in her huge tits), and Brazilian dark. Maybe morena, but, if so, on the very light end of that scale.
The thing that shocked me most was her tits. They were DD at least, she was fit and skinny, yet the tits were real. They are, by far, the biggest natural set on a near-spinner I have ever seen.
FT[/QUOTE]Angela is native from Bahia. A nice girl with a very sexy body. The only problem is that she's a little bit shy (when I met her she was beginning). A good GFE service but she's definitely not PSE.
As you said there's a couple of goord resraurant on the way back to metro Ana Rosa. Still on Machado de Assis did you try that gemütlich restaurant on the corner of Machado de Assis and Gaspar Lourenço: Espetinho the Vila.
[url]http://www.espetinhodavila.com.br/[/url]
My favorite place after a torrid sex session: drinking a couple of cerveja bem gelada and eating brochettes is always a pleaure.