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[QUOTE=Smoothy]I don't think the quality of the chinese girls there is the best in all of china, but the vietnamese girls there are about as hot as you'll find anywhere in the world. The cost is extreme though. You can take a different girl every night of the week in Jakarta for the same price as one night in Macau.[/QUOTE]Macau is not that expensive if you don't go to the Saunas.
I got a nice Indeonesian girl out of DD disco in Macau for 500 MOP LT. She stayed until 4 pm and insisded on a 3rd session in the afternoon. Only after that when I told her I had to go she left too. When asking for the price in the disco she tried to get 1000 first, but when I told her: "1000 is completely unreasonable, I know that and you know that." Then she settled for 500. I heard of guys getting Indonesians even for 300 LT. (300-500 that is between 338K and 562K rupiah).
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]Macau is a very expensive place for mongering lot higher than jarkata ,but the quality is the best in the whole China .[/QUOTE]
I don't think the quality of the chinese girls there is the best in all of china, but the vietnamese girls there are about as hot as you'll find anywhere in the world. The cost is extreme though. You can take a different girl every night of the week in Jakarta for the same price as one night in Macau.
[QUOTE=Bulai69]The main challenge in Atrium is beating the local guys who are experts in spotting the girls you are also looking for. Not only might they spot them before you but for sure they will act before you - unless you're VERY quick. [/QUOTE]
Oh, yes, Artisto Art and I, we've beaten the local and Arab guys a couple of times, but it is impossible to beat the *****y girlfriend who talks her friend out of spending some time in a hotel room with you, Only because she was dissapointed, that she wasn't the one you were after.
I'm coming back to Jakarta at the end of the month for a couple of weeks. I love Jakarta, but the pollution and traffic make me a little crazy(ier). I've been to Bali, but am looking for another destination in Indonesia to go to for a week or so that maybe has fresher ladies, or some other new interesting experience! Semi or Non pros would be a bonus, too.
I'd prefer a place that I can fly into easily. Direct flights to Singapore for my connecting flight would be a huge plus.
As most of you know my Bahasa is quite minimal. In fact, I seem to forget all the important stuff every time I leave.
Thanks!
Happy New Year!
Finally made it back to Sumo Shiatsu in the Kelapa Gading section of Jakarta. Zero’s link in the "Reports of Distinction" section on July 14, 2006 of a report by MongerXX is basically still accurate, but here's a summarized update:
Great spa facilities on the first floor - sauna, steam, jacuzzi, but no girls. Once you walk upstairs to the second floor, there’s a counter where you check in for your massage. But first, go pick a girl!
Just to the left of the counter is a room with an open door. Walk in and to your right are about 15 girls, all Indonesian, all decent-looking or even better. They supply a full-body massage with oral and FS ending, for a 500,000 rupiah price all-inclusive (tip already included). This is your best value by far.
On the center and left of this same room are another 20-25 girls, all Indonesian, some slightly better looking than the first group of girls. These are the freelancers, total all-inclusive price of 800,000 rupiah. A couple of them were quite good-looking, but overall not much different than the full-body-massage girls.
To the left of this first room (with the open door) is a larger room, the theater, with a closed door. Go inside and you’ll find 40 or more women, as follows:
- to your right, in a café-type setting, around 15 Chinese “free-lancer” girls, with a set price of 1,500,000 rupiah all-inclusive. Many are gorgeous, but IMHO 1.5 million rupiah is a lot of money!
- in the center of the theater are three groups of girls. One group is all Thai girls, again for 1.5 million. A second group was around 10 girls from Uzbekistan, also 1.5 million. The Thai girls were cute but at that price you might as well fly to Bangkok! The Uzbek girls were nothing special and looked bored and tired.
- final group was up front by the TV screen, 8 girls from China who are “massage girls” and nowhere as good-looking as the Chinese girls in the café. The Chinese massage girls cost 250,000 rupiah for the massage, plus a tip up to 500,000 rupiah on top of that depending on what services the girl provides.
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Decided to take a chance and pick one of the girls from the latter group, the Chinese “massage girls,” so I chose one who was fairly tall, decent figure, and almost as good-looking as the 1.5 million girls. Big mistake! While she gave a decent massage, that was it. She flat-out refused to kiss me at all, then refused FS, saying that my dick was too big – nice compliment, but BS. She then gave me oral for at most 10 seconds, then finished up with the worst hand job I’ve ever received. So, I gave her a relatively small tip of 200,000 rupiah instead of the normal 500,000 rupiah, which really pissed her off. She followed me out to the massage counter and complained, then was waiting for me at the cashier’s desk downstairs by the front door to complain again. But I stuck to my guns and refused to increase her tip.
Moral of the story – unless you are willing to spend 1.5 million rupiah, pick one of the 500,000 rupiah Indonesian girls!
Hello brothers.
I came from far away and stil new here I guess, (3months). Had just 4lucky meetings. 2chinese&2indo girls. All free, from inet (icq, yahoo, msn). Who shares other free-weblinks for more?
Have difficultnes about where to go. Checked out yet just P. Nirwana and a place in Halim (name smthng like this) but once all room were busy, had to wait a bit. Strange but gues normal 4here. But thng is, girls were not so shy to go to anywhere with me. Am mostly day-ower actif but it seems no matter time. There are enough, it just depends on your time&mood.
Of course pleasure has no price, But at least, cool calculated its not cheap, didn't check hotels (melawai) yet but sure with pro or no-pro diffrent sessions I guess. What you mean?
Wish all of you funy (f. Ky) days.
"one sees oneself ":.)
MD,
I am 110% agreeable with B69 on his opinion based on his experience. But I am sure you know how to get off the hook :D.
Menteng and me co-produced photograps using his digital camera and video clips using my HP last December 29. 2 girls, one of them only do MM (everything except full penetration), because she is still a virgin, and 2 guys in a cheap hotel room. M dominated all the action while I was busy doing all the documentation. In the end I had a BJ from the virgin. Actually, it was the cheapest and most excited ... (Clinton said BJ is not sex) :D.
M told me going out with me is fun again when I dropped him off. I told him it was him who persuaded these girls to go with us to the hotel.
JC,
Batam islands. It is a special industrial territory. About 15 minutes jetfoil ride from S'pore and about 1 hour flight from Jakarta. It is a playground for S'poreans.
Bandung. About 1.5 hour drive passing Cipulang toll road or 3.5 hours drive passing Bogor and Puncak (highland 80 km from Jakarta). Highland and the weather is cool. Known as Pariij van Java during Dutch colonial time, it the provincial capital of West Java. Hotel is relatively more expensive than Jakarta. Bandung is one of the most favourite weekend escapade for the locals. It is quite hard to get a room during weekend. You should try Mojang Priangan (Bandung beauties). Or, you may bring your date from Jakarta. But, at least, you should visit the infamous Saritem :D.
Yogyakarta. About 1 hour flight from Jakarta. It is a special territory on southern part of Central Java, home of Mangkubumi Sultanate with Sultan Hamangkubuwono X as the Sultan. It is a Javanese cultural centre.
Menteng and me have been planning to go to Bandung. Maybe I should check other mongering buddies from my local forum. Some might want to join. Some visit Bandung every weekend. Some reside in Bandung. But, you have to understand people who might join us have different preferences based on their situations. Some prefer to go back to Jakarta at midnight, I fall under this category. Some prefer to stay for 1-3 days, I believe M falls under this category, maybe I can stay for a day, but I am not sure for now, my schedule is always tentative. Some prefer to stay for 4-7 days, I believe you fall under this category. I don't know. This is just some of my thoughts. I have to discuss about this matter again with Menteng. MD, are you interested to join?
PS. JC, the bookstore I regularly ordered my books had stopped giving personal service. They said they have internal problem with their system. I really appreciate if you can order and bring the books I need from Amazon.com for (not the list I gave you last time). I will pay you back in Jakarta. But, I understand if you are too busy to do this. Anyway, I will get back to you with the list thru PM.
For those of you who may find Joel Goodsons guidelines a bit "subtle", check this one out in the foto. "Cheeky" comes to mind, observed on a recent Atrium run, wasn't quite sure where to look.
[QUOTE=Jkt After Dark 2]MD,
I am 110% agreeable with B69 on his opinion based on his experience. But I am sure you know how to get off the hook :D.
Menteng and me co-produced photograps using his digital camera and video clips using my HP last December 29. 2 girls, one of them only do MM (everything except full penetration), because she is still a virgin, and 2 guys in a cheap hotel room. M dominated all the action while I was busy doing all the documentation. In the end I had a BJ from the virgin. Actually, it was the cheapest and most excited ... (Clinton said BJ is not sex) :D.
M told me going out with me is fun again when I dropped him off. I told him it was him who persuaded these girls to go with us to the hotel.
Menteng and me have been planning to go to Bandung. Maybe I should check other mongering buddies from my local forum. Some might want to join. Some visit Bandung every weekend. Some reside in Bandung. But, you have to understand people who might join us have different preferences based on their situations. Some prefer to go back to Jakarta at midnight, I fall under this category. Some prefer to stay for 1-3 days, I believe M falls under this category, maybe I can stay for a day, but I am not sure for now, my schedule is always tentative. Some prefer to stay for 4-7 days, I believe you fall under this category. I don't know. This is just some of my thoughts. I have to discuss about this matter again with Menteng. MD, are you interested to join?
JAKARTA AFTER DARK
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You're right, B69 is right but as you said, I can manage - or at least I'll be a willing victim;) (you know about that don't you B69?).
I would be interested but I have to sort things out in KL first. I'm contemplating parting ways with my business partners and need to get things in order first - much as brain no.2 wants his way (actually he thinks he's brain no.1:D).
MD II
What is the lowest fare?
Thanks,
Garotoz
[QUOTE=Garotoz]What is the lowest fare?[/QUOTE]
I find it much cheaper to fly to Singapore, and then catch a cheap ($100 RT) connecting flight to CGK. You'll pay over $1000 to fly to CGK direct from LAX, or $600 to SIN.
Northwest is the cheapest, about $700 total to SIN including taxes. You can find $100 off coupons that you can use as well. You have stopover in Tokyo, which is a nice break.
I bought tickets for SIN-CGK a few weeks ago. I just went to check to see if there are any notices after the crash a few days ago, and it just loads one informational screen in, in Bahasa only.
[url]http://www.flyadamair.com/[/url]
I thought I'd ask you guys if you knew if the airline had been shut down, or was operating normally.
JC,
Adam Air is one of the cheapest airlines in Indonesia. They lost one of their planes in Celebes islands few days ago. I think the plane serviced Surabaya - Manado route. They haven't find it. I assume no survival.
[QUOTE=Jaimito Cartero]I bought tickets for SIN-CGK a few weeks ago. I just went to check to see if there are any notices after the crash a few days ago, and it just loads one informational screen in, in Bahasa only.
[url]http://www.flyadamair.com/[/url]
I thought I'd ask you guys if you knew if the airline had been shut down, or was operating normally.[/QUOTE]
As of today (Thursday), Adam Air is still operating normally, although that is subject to change.
I just watched CNN's 10 p.m. broadcast and the missing plane still has not been found.
[QUOTE=Garotoz]What is the lowest fare?
Thanks,
Garotoz[/QUOTE]
Try kayak.com
[QUOTE=Garotoz]What is the lowest fare?
[/QUOTE]
Here is a new link to FareCompare that allows you to see all the fares listed, along with the carrier and fare code basis. Make sure you pay attention to surcharges, as they can jack the fare way up.
[url]http://www.farecompare.com/flights/-LAX/-CGK/market.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Pak Mike]....... wasn't quite sure where to look.[/QUOTE]
You certainly looked in the best direction at that moment :)
[QUOTE=Pak Mike]For those of you who may find Joel Goodsons guidelines a bit "subtle"...[/QUOTE]
I don't think I posted any guidelines - merely some observations and experiences, but let's have it your way then & let me lay it on the line for you... If someone posts that you have to act VERY quick to beat local experts - he's either very unattractive or trying to impress others... my guess - the latter, it's bluff. Have a nice day & enjoy JKT.
[QUOTE=Jkt After Dark 2]JC,
Adam Air is one of the cheapest airlines in Indonesia. They lost one of their planes in Celebes islands few days ago. I think the plane serviced Surabaya - Manado route. They haven't find it. I assume no survival.
JAKARTA AFTER DARK[/QUOTE]
Yeah, if they haven't even located the plane by now then even if there were initially survivors then odds are against them.
So far they are blaming bad weather for the lost.
PT
[QUOTE=Phantomtiger2]Yeah, if they haven't even located the plane by now then even if there were initially survivors then odds are against them.
So far they are blaming bad weather for the lost.
PT[/QUOTE]There are lots of mishaps with Adam Air: I always go with the cheapest fare, since my life isn't worth much.
Regards
Hi folks, sorry but cant sit here and enjoy my short lived vaccation in monger-land, and not be disappointed by the talk of air disasters!
Please guys n girls can we talk about things that are closer to our hearts?
Yeah, the Adam airplane is a real bummer, but the kid that held on to his pa in the ocean for 4 days is much better news!
Thought i'd let you know about a new potential mongering joint that i came across tonight.
i went out to play pool, with some indo friends in sby, and basically got fucked by two 7.5s/10 within the the first 1.5hrs!
it started as a normal early session, myself drinking 2x the amount of beer as my friends, and watching them quickly get wasted.....much needed with my pool-playing he2!
no news there, i know, but on the table next to us there were a couple of girls who at first were just curious/shy, ie lots of smiling and gossip to each other, and to be be fair, im not the most perceptive bloke, so just smiled back, (plenty going on in my thoughts though!!!!).
So to the crunch, after breaking the ice, buying a few beers for the ladies, we learn that they are students being hired out by their kos for more money than spgs!
300k rp later im on a pool table on 4th floor, 1 sucking on my knob, and the other on my nipples, quick switch, more of the same, and then being ridden by the 2 of them in turn!
I LOVE THIS COUNTRY!
This will be just a short one from a newbie like me . It is on ITC Raxy Mas Shopping Plaza for those never been there. If driving, just go into the plaza front gate, after receive the parking ticket, you will be right on the cross road right turn will take you into the shopping mall's parking, keep going straight down count3 small roads on your left and then turn left. After 100metre you will hit a T-junction and Tropical is right in front of you .
Tried no.10 at tropical the last week of December , she has light skin with very decent sized boobs. Able to converse a little in english which is very good for a 24yos gal from Surabaya. Didn’t want to pick her but not many choice at 1130am so what the hell.
Met the nice guy at the counter who I met for the second time but never ask his name(will do next time)say hi but didn’t get his suggestion since my Bahasa skill is virtually zero and my Chinese is not good enough to cut a deal. In fact, he suggest to me No15 the last time and she was great . A little soft boobs but anyone would like to see her sweat so try . However this time I just gone with the spin of the number for a change.
Picked the gal, selected the VIP room, wait 10minutes in the cosy lounge before the nice guy told me all is ready. Went up to the third floor and into the room. The young lady arrived ,small chat to find I am an asian who can only speak English.The massage started off with a fair massage with nothing to praise about but not a bad one but no sexual stimulus what so ever!! . At the very end of the massage, she asked if I want a HJ or a BJ which will cost me 300k or a FJ for 400k. To my surprise, I wasn’t able to bargain it down not a cent. However, I wasn’t crazy about the FJ anyway or would have just pick a FL so I just skip for this time. A little disappointment for her shoot- from- the- hip style which might as well handed me the “menu”for the day.
No. 10 Name : dunno ,lost it somewhere
Look: 6.5 (will look twice if found in public places)
Body : 6
Boobs: 6.5
Attitude: 5.5
WIR: No
Damage 175k or closely..had a cigige and drinks so figure might be wrong but in that region of 20$ plus over 300k if require extra.
Heard about the famous package FL+massage, is it still available?
Oh, anyone know what’s happening at the new FM1 hotel in Menteng? The SPA sign on the second floor seems interesting.
[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
Not to get too critical on Jackson, but many of the "blue tagged" messages saying that he hopes the report gets into the Reports of Distinction, seem to be unworthy candidates. Incomplete and erroneous reports are not something I would distinguish.
While many of the reports are okay, in many cases they aren't something that seem worthy of accolades. In particular, new posters seem to targeted. While I think that a good report should get an "attaboy", I'd guess that fewer than 1 in 500 reports should actually go in the Reports of Distinction.
Just joined last week from a neighbouring forum, some of the members might remember my forum ID. Haven't really been in the mongering scene for some months now, and the following experiences might explain why:
[1] BUNGA MAWAR, DEYA
Face: 6.5 (for me, she's probably an 8+ for most foreigners though)
Body: 9.5 (in clothes, 8.75 out of them, he he)
Kissing: Yes, 9 (lots of tongue, really got into it)
BJ: 8 (got down almost - but not quite - to the "other" hole)
FJ: 8 (open to a lot of things but still felt a little too "pro")
Overall: 9 (Killer body had me shooting in 20 mins!)
Picked her out of the general BM populace after fat eyeglasses Mami showed me two that just didn't do it for me at all. What really stood out was her amazing body! Relatively tall (about 170 cm in her heels, 160+ without), nice long black hair a couple of inches past her shoulders, very cute but very bitchy looking face (the word "challenging" comes to mind), awesome body (big tits, teeny tiny waist, and an ass that's not just big but sticks out J-Lo style, simply amazing), that although greatly accentuated with a push-up bra, high heels and hip-hugger jeans didn't dissapoint at all once she got out of them. Enjoyed herself greatly and had one orgasm from me tongueing her and one from the sex itself. Kissing felt real (lots of tongue, which she initiated), but the overall experience, although quite good, still felt a little too "professional" even though we got to talking about a lot of little things and the GFE factor was quite high. Damage Cost: 10K drink + 70K room + 5K condom + 225K all-in tips
SPECIAL NOTE: She'll come over looking super hella bitchy and she will NOT talk to you first other than the usual hello, that even with barely a hint of a smile. Basically, she knows she's hot! (Well, body-wise anyways.) You will have to make the first move and get her warmed up, otherwise I imagine the rest of the "date" will go quite badly.
[2] MITRA SEHAT, SELLY
Found this little place on the way back from a client, actually the whole back half of this "RU-KO" complex at the Jembatan Tiga intersection ("Bridge Three" in the Kota area), consists of massage parlors and basically just picked this one pretty much at random. The winning factor has got to be the decor! Place was very clean, like they just finished building it last month. New fixtures and furniture, lots of yellow lighting everywhere and in the rooms, clean corners, bed was even covered in pleather, and although tge room was still small the whole of one wall was nicely mirrored. Usual "pick-from-a-pic" system, and also as usual the picture was much much better than the real thing:
SELLY
Face: 4 (would probably have been a 5 or even a 6 but her teeth were BAD)
Body: 6 (petite, full B tits, okay waist, okay ass)
BJ: 3 (fake sounds, and lots of gagging afterwards, BLEAH!)
FJ: 6 (liked it doggy and actually came, with lots of very guttural grunting)
Overall: 4 (B-O-R-I-N-G!!!)
That's not all! Here's the real killer: The counter woman downstairs had quoted 175K all-in (which was the main factor that finally hooked me to try the place), so I pulled out 200K afterwards to give to the girl even though I hadn't really enjoyed the session much at all. She then asks me for an extra 75K "to cover the room"! Could have started a scene but the whole thing had really just gone to pot for me WAY before then, so I pulled out another 100K and got outta there pronto. Definitely not recommended at all. But the place was awesome! Will have to see if they'll let me bring in outside "talent," he he he...
FINAL THOUGHTS: Dropped out of the scene for a while because of my dissapointment over the whole "Pay for Sex" thing, I think the Flip part of me enjoys the chase part, and not really the getting part. These last two experiences pretty much cemented that for me! Although I will probably go back and have another session with Deya at BM sometime (that killer bod just does it for me), I think I'm going to stick to mall hunting from now on. If anybody's on, drop me a line!
[QUOTE=Jaimito Cartero]Not to get too critical on Jackson, but many of the "blue tagged" messages saying that he hopes the report gets into the Reports of Distinction, seem to be unworthy candidates. Incomplete and erroneous reports are not something I would distinguish.
While many of the reports are okay, in many cases they aren't something that seem worthy of accolades. In particular, new posters seem to targeted. While I think that a good report should get an "attaboy", I'd guess that fewer than 1 in 500 reports should actually go in the Reports of Distinction.[/QUOTE]
The reports of distinctions thread is to no use other than boosting the ego of newbies. Get yourself a new handle, copy some news article from BBC and you will get the blue blue. This is pretty much an automated thing. I just tried to read an article in the Pattaya Thailand section. The lacking language skills and thinking structure make the content only guessable. That guy doesn't even end his sentence, but just adds the next issue or thought. Still got the blue blue. With Jackson so keen on punctuation and spelling, he can't have read that.
MD,
I found a picture of Djarum Black (kretek cigarette) SPGs. They are refined according to Indonesian's rating scale. Real SPGs, not some sales counter girls. What do you think?
[QUOTE=Jaimito Cartero]... many of the "blue tagged" messages saying that he hopes the report gets into the Reports of Distinction, seem to be unworthy candidates. ... I'd guess that fewer than 1 in 500 reports should actually go in the Reports of Distinction.[/QUOTE]I've thought as much myself. A good idea would be a "worthy of distinction" vote button at the bottom of each posting. Members could vote for a given post to be distinguished. Beyond a given number of votes, the posting would become a report of distinction.
Stopped by Kartika Spa (walking distance from the Mangga Besar busway stop, a couple of blocks over from the Stadium nightclub) for my usual monthly visit with Cynthia.
While getting started, Cynthia said "by the way, one of your friends stopped by here a couple of weeks and asked specifically for me. Thanks for recommending me to him." I replied, "was he nice to you?" and her reply was essentially "yes, he was a very nice man, he was nice to me, and he gave me a decent tip." She then proceeded to give me a great massage+FS session - a nice way to start off the New Year.
While I would expect nothing less than gentlemanly behavior from any ISG guy, still I would like to thank whoever that person was for (a) making me look good, and (b) treating Cynthia properly. I've recommended Cynthia in PMs to at least a half-dozen ISG posters during the past few months, so I'm not sure who it was, however. Feel free to send me a PM if you wish to identify yourself.
JAD and MD:
Just a comment on SPGs, larger corporations (ie, with flusher advert budgets) like Djarum and where I happen to work at, although they will outsource SPGs to an ad agency or event organizer, they will still have a say on the ones that are eventually picked. Usually conditions will include the girl in question is a college grad (or currently taking classes and close to graduating, within the year), and they will have to roleplay certain situations including what would you do if a potential customer comes on strong but you know isn't interested in your product, etc.
So yes, "real" SPGs used by larger companies will be of the more "refined" sort. However, this doesn't preclude the fact that they may be "available" after their contract with said company is over, he he he.
[QUOTE=Jkt After Dark 2]MD,
I found a picture of Djarum Black (kretek cigarette) SPGs. They are refined according to Indonesian's rating scale. Real SPGs, not some sales counter girls. What do you think?
JAKARTA AFTER DARK[/QUOTE]
My spec and you know it! How come you never show me this sort of thing when I'm there?
MD II
MD,
Djarum is a kretek cigarette manufacturing company. And Djarum Black is one of their product lines (it is actually one of these mild kretek genres).
The picture is a documentation of Djarum Black's some kind of wet t-shirt event (I alway wish D's Place has this kind of quality). More and more companies in Indonesia commissioned event organizer for their promo.
I don't know what to say MD. I guess it is a bit hard to synchronize your trips with these events.
Jt Boi,
This remind me of a friend of mind who used to work for an exhibition service company (his elder brother owned it). The company had 4 operations: expo (not doing well), design & construction (job order occationally), production house (job order occationally), SPG agency (regular contract). Although the bread and butter from exhibition industry, they also had some engagements with other industries.
In reality, these SPGs work in a group to get agency endorsement and client approval. I know for a fact that to get my friend's agency endorsement, one or two of these SPGs had to spend several nights with my friend (hung out and when my friend called off the evening they said it too late for them to go home :D). I don't know about the client part. I also know for a fact that other than the contract, they also asked this and that.
The company had to closed down several years ago. My friend was still able to fuck around promising this and that for 2 years upon the closure :D. I guess eventually they found out the company was no longer there.
I am not sure about your statement on college grad as a requirement. As far as I am aware, in general, 21 years old is the maximum. Maybe some college as a requirement is more accurate. This is an industry practice, but there are exemptions on case to case basis.
Although I am 110% agreeable with your other point of view, I choose to give them the benefit of doubts by saying they are not available. Do you think they need money? :D
The moral story is don't fuck around with these SPGs. All SPGs in Jakarta will know you are a bastard. Can you live with that?
JAKARTA AFTER DARK
Which airline is would you advice brothers, between
- Bangkok to jakarta,
- New Delhi-jakarta,
- moscow-jakarta ?
Does someone flys this routes often?
Thanks in advance.
Hey there. That would be me. Brand new member, as of today, just to respond to you. As I am not a paid member, I cannot PM you. BTW, thanks for the recommendation, which I had seen in other posts here. I have also taken the opportunity to partake of the lovely treats others here have named as particularly scrumptious and wish to thank them heartily. I have several recommendations myself, following some months of mongering in Jakarta, that I plan to post with reports on each! So far, I am a big fan of TC (Today Country) and Maribaya (Melawai Hotel 6th floor).
Latest morsel I sampled was Melly, at Stadium. Petite and sweet! Visited her twice in the last few days. I am a big fan of "AA" cup cuties, so she was a sight to behold! Thanks to whomever had posted on this delectible delight.
Regards;
Reg
[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]While I would expect nothing less than gentlemanly behavior from any ISG guy, still I would like to thank whoever that person was for (a) making me look good, and (b) treating Cynthia properly. I've recommended Cynthia in PMs to at least a half-dozen ISG posters during the past few months, so I'm not sure who it was, however. Feel free to send me a PM if you wish to identify yourself.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Traveler1234]I've never encountered any problems. It seems to me you haven't been doing your homework.
If you're really lost, read the RoD section for places to go and visit. If that doesn't work, pm ebowan or JAD for personal tour(s).[/QUOTE]Sorry, I'm new here. Who is ebowan and JAD?
I'm leaving for Jakarta next week and might need their help.
I agree. Again, not wishing to criticise, but the criterion seems to be "volume" rather than quality of content. I'm not referring to any specific recent reports, just what I've noticed in the past.
Just a quick heads up for those traveling to most locations that Air Asia flys to. They've just announced a 1 million free seat sale. You pay some fuel surcharges and taxes, but still quite cheaper than usual.
Must be booked within the next week or so for dates starting in April for most locations. Fly to Bali, KL or many domestic Indonesian locations.
I checked some dates for Bali, and found tons of flight returning for $0, but most leaving Jakarta were 249k or so. If you play with the dates you might find something good.
Good for Thailand, Malaysia, and other Air Asia countries as well. These will go quick, so I'd book them while you can.
[QUOTE=Naza Ria]Sorry, I'm new here. Who is ebowan and JAD?
I'm leaving for Jakarta next week and might need their help.[/QUOTE]
Two local resident mongers
Ebowan
JAD - jakarta after dark
Send them pm
You will all notice the only reports which get reccomended to ROD are regular member reports. That is because they get checked, or screened, prior to posting. I believe any report longer than X amount of words, which is not written in caps, with correct spacing etc, will get nominated. Strange criteria, but not many actually make it to ROD.
Any regular members out there care to write 2,000 words of nonsense to prove my point?
[QUOTE=Traveler1234]Two local resident mongers
Ebowan
JAD - jakarta after dark
Send them pm[/QUOTE]
You can't send regular members PM's. They've got to cough up some money first, for a membership.
[QUOTE=Naza Ria]Sorry, I'm new here. Who is ebowan and JAD?
I'm leaving for Jakarta next week and might need their help.[/QUOTE]
Naza Ria,
You sound Malaysian - well at least you named yourself after a Malaysian assembled MPV (maybe you own one). Anyway as stated JAD is Jakarta After Dark 2 and Ebowan is..... Ebowan. Both are known to party which you would know if you RTFF. You can also check out about JAD in the classified section. Ebowan is well known to Traveller 1234 (I believe?). If you're going to Jakarta, just remember: nothing ventured, nothing gained. Good luck.
MD II
[QUOTE=Master Diver II]My spec and you know it! MD II[/QUOTE]
Yeah ... you and a million other mongerers! Hey Bro JAD, do I see a luscious B-Cup on the girl on the right?
Best,
Panya
[QUOTE=Master Diver II]Naza Ria,
You sound Malaysian - well at least you named yourself after a Malaysian assembled MPV (maybe you own one). Anyway as stated JAD is Jakarta After Dark 2 and Ebowan is..... Ebowan. Both are known to party which you would know if you RTFF. You can also check out about JAD in the classified section. Ebowan is well known to Traveller 1234 (I believe?). If you're going to Jakarta, just remember: nothing ventured, nothing gained. Good luck.
MD II[/QUOTE]MD II,
You are right, indeed I'm a Malaysian and owns a NR MPV.
I did RTFF, took me awhile to get to know who JAD is (and his website).
I don't see much FR on Mangga Dua area, any recommendations for mongering near Novotel or Dusit Mangga.
[QUOTE=Jkt After Dark 2]MD,
I found a picture of Djarum Black (kretek cigarette) SPGs. They are refined according to Indonesian's rating scale. Real SPGs, not some sales counter girls. What do you think?
JAKARTA AFTER DARK[/QUOTE]
The picture is a nice example of Indonesian sexual hypocricy. Wet T-shirt but armoured beneath :(
[QUOTE=Master Diver II]My spec and you know it! How come you never show me this sort of thing when I'm there?
MD II[/QUOTE]
Is a tall, slender PR-girl ok? I might have a nice surprise for you! No, it is not miss Y (or J) but they happen to know each other.
[QUOTE=Menteng]Is a tall, slender PR-girl ok? I might have a nice surprise for you! No, it is not miss Y (or J) but they happen to know each other.[/QUOTE]
Hmmmmm. Who knows whom? PR girl knows Y or J? Or J knows Y? Or they are willing to have a threesome:)? But only with me:D? I'm looking forward to sorting my Malaysian issues so I can get over there.
MD II
[QUOTE=Jaimito Cartero]You can't send regular members PM's. They've got to cough up some money first, for a membership.[/QUOTE]
You're absolutely right and IMHO, anyone not willing to fork over 19.99 is wasting our time......
For those interested, there is this Confort Spa, the one located in a street off Pecenongan, which will start sexy dances next wednesday, 17th Jan. from 7pm. The drinks will be discounted, buy1 botle of Chivas for 700,000 Rp and get one free, a very good deal for Jakarta I think, ladies drinks for 50,000 Rp , maybe not so cheap though, with a free beer...
They also started Karaoke service this month: no charge for the room now, only the girls at 350,000 Rp for 10 hours but could do half price for 5 hours provided a tip is given to the girl.
The massage is offered at 30% discount now (140,000 Rp for 1.5 hours in a VIP room, with door, not a curtain, recommended for more ... privacy, hehehe ...) with free reflexi for 1.5 hours: I spent 4 hours there yesterday ... time flies ! and the girls are nice. For senior members and those I know, pm me for hints on girls numbers.
The facility is ok and the staff are nice people, including the manager.
For those who know the scene here, the owners are the same as those of Fortune spa, in the back of le Meridien hotel.
Cheers
Was in Jakarta at end of Nov.
First trip there, I didn;t really intend to monger at all because I was only in transit for a night and had a flight out early the next morning. But as I was walking back to my hotel on Jalan Jaksa, I saw this chick with huge tits haning around the front entrance to my hotel. There wasa guy with her, so as I walked by her, I smiled and she smiled back. I continued walking toward the hotel door before I turned around and saw her still smiling at me. I could resist no more and walked up to her to say hi. Conversation naturally progressed to "How would you like to come up to my hotel room?" and she agreed. Asked her the price - agreed on 150,000 Rp, while the guy with her said no. I told him, too late, she's already agreed.
Up to the room we went, and I was somewhat disappointed with her body - as soon as the clothes came off, the tits sagged and the belly was so big I really thought ( and still suspects) she might be preganant.
Anyway, did the deed - nothing special, but I got the relieve I was looking for and she got her 150,000 Rp.
On my return trip, I stopped for a day again. Read about TC at Lokasari and decided to go for a look. Was looking for Tiara Ciera, but didn't realize it has changed to Today Country. Anyway, finally realized the new name and went inside. It was pitch black inside and the mommy brought me to a table where there were two girls. It was so dark I couldn;t see anything. One of the girls tagged on to me and started dancing and grinding her ass on my crotch. Another girl from another table came and started chatting with me. I finally decided to take the first girl - it was a hard decision because it was so dark and I could see nothing. Went to the room right in the bar and had to wait for a room. I think I paid 250,000 Rp, or it could have been 270,000 can't remember now.
Girl was on the chubby side and service was standard. She was really young - claimed to be 18 and I believe her.
After TC, I was really fascinated by Jalan Industri which I had read while I was searching the forum for more info on TC. Walked around a bit in an attempt to locate Jalan Industri - no luck, so I hopped in a cab and was there in less than 10 minutes. No problem with going in the complex. Checked out all three shops that were obviously open. Decided to go back to the first shop and the mommy was trying to push this short chubby girl on me. I refused and picked a dark, slim girl. Mommy asked if I wanted massage - I said I wanted sexy massage (couldn;t bring myslef to be so blunt as to say sex). Mommy said, you want full service, yes, yes, yes - that's what I want. 150,000 (or was it 170,000?) Rp.
Went upstair, girl gave a pretty good massage - I was impressed. Took shower with girl and it was action time. Without asking, girl provided good bbbj, and excellent assrim. I could not believe it - she did it without even being asked. Best service I have ever had. Then it was missionary, and doggy. Stuck my finger in her ass to test the water - it was tight and dry. She stopped me and I thought - hmm, no anal. Boy was I wrong - she reached for the dish of lotion that she used for my massage and offered it to me,.....a little dab on my fingers and the slipped right in her ass with no problem. I thought...hmmm this is good. Anyway - did her anal and shot my load doing her anal. She had no problems with photos at all. Very friendly and nice. Compared to TC, this is way way way better even though the girl is older and not as pretty. But at least it's brightly lit and you see what you get.
If I ever go back to Jakarta, Jalan Industri will be on my Must Do list.
Photos will be in Photo Gallery.
Diver
Going to be on an extended business trip and I have 3-4 days to check out the area. Can fly to Jakarta or Singapre.. no difference. Wanted to know some thoughts... where should I go. My experience is extensive have mongered in just about every country.. I'm open to ideas and opinions. Like a bit off the path but not so much that I am the only white face seen in ages. thoughts and suggestions.
Thanks,
ENDER
Panya,
I think the three of them have luscious B-cups.
MD,
You should spend your time cruising around at Jakarta Convention Center (beside Hotel Sultan, formerly Hilton Hotel). And, take Panya with you.
Menteng,
I am 110% agreeable with your point of view regarding Indonesian sexual hypocricy.
Knight 1001,
Good to learn you are back. Anyway, how was your sexcapade last Sunday?
JAKARTA AFTER DARK
[QUOTE=Diver69]I didn't really intend to monger at all [/QUOTE]
Judging from your pictures, you failed miserably on your intentions. I need to check out industri. If they keep ass lube by the bed as standard protocol, that must be a good place.
[QUOTE=Jkt After Dark 2]Panya,
Knight 1001,
Good to learn you are back. Anyway, how was your sexcapade last Sunday?
JAKARTA AFTER DARK[/QUOTE]
Thanks Bro, if you look at the photos section you'll find out what I ended up with yesterday, quite an enjoyable moment I have to say, which made up nicely the missed opportunity with the PRC's I'd just met before that, and surprisingly there was ample choice of cuties too. Pity you didn't stay ...
Cheers
What shop/intersection/restaurant is next door/across the street? I have tried over and over to find that place?
[QUOTE=Naza Ria] I don't see much FR on Mangga Dua area, any recommendations for mongering near Novotel or Dusit Mangga.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BuleDaddy]Never Could find Kartika. What shop/intersection/restaurant is next door/across the street? I have tried over and over to find that place?[/QUOTE]
The Mangga Dua area is in the northeastern part of Kota, the oldest part of Jakarta, in the northern part of town.
First, you are not all that far from Atrium Mall, if you are into mall-hunting. The malls at Mangga Dua might also be good for mall-hunting, don't know.
From the Novotel, you can easily go down to Jalan Industri Raya, heavily discussed on ISG by Asian Rain, me and others. Somewhat low-end, best for an inexpensive quickie.
From there, head west over to Jalan Mangga Besar, where you'll find Hotel Travel down a side road, TC Spa at Lokasari Plaza, Olympic MP nearby the Lokasari Plaza, Patra MP and some other massage places also mentioned on ISG. Someone recently posted several photos of this area taken from an airplane.
Continue west on Jalan Mangga Besar and you'll reach the intersection with Jalan Hayam Wuruk. You'll know it because a Mercure Hotel will be to your right at this corner. Turn left onto Hayam Wuruk. One short block on your left is a side alley where Kartika and Berlian Spas are both located. The landmark is the Suisse Bakery on the corner (good "kelapa" or coconut buns here). You should also be able to see signs for both MPs from Jl. Hayam Wuruk.
If you don't turn into the small alley, but instead you keep walking past the Suisse Bakery, the next alley on the left includes Mongo Mas Spa and a couple of other MPs rarely mentioned on this board.
Keep walking down Jl. Hayam Wuruk for two more blocks; in front of you will be the stairs to access the Transjakarta bus station. Left of the stairs is a bland-looking mall with a great cafe (Ooh La La) on the ground floor that is open 24 hours and has lots of interesting black-and-white photos of Jakarta on the walls. To your immediate left is an alley which quickly leads to the infamous Stadium Spa and Night Club.
I've left out several other interestings places (such as the famous Beverley Hills Spa near the Kota train station, where you can have sex with a Chinese girl for 1.5 million rupiah), but the above should get you started. Be sure to also check out the Reports of Distinction board, also consider using JAD2's services.
[QUOTE=Regin Harden]Hey there Mighty Spearsman. That would be me. Brand new member, as of today, just to respond to you. As I am not a paid member, I cannot PM you. BTW, thanks for the recommendation, which I had seen in other posts here. I have also taken the opportunity to partake of the lovely treats others here have named as particularly scrumptious and wish to thank them heartily. I have several recommendations myself, following some months of mongering in Jakarta, that I plan to post with reports on each! So far, I am a big fan of TC (Today Country) and Maribaya (Melawai Hotel 6th floor).
Latest morsel I sampled was Melly, at Stadium. Petite and sweet! Visited her twice in the last few days. I am a big fan of "AA" cup cuties, so she was a sight to behold! Thanks to whomever had posted on this delectible delight.
Regards;
Reg[/QUOTE]
Hey Reg, that was me that recommended Melly at Stadium, back in last December. Clearly you and I have the same taste in girls, although interestingly Cynthia and Melly represent opposite ends of the "tits" spectrum - Cynthia has larger than normal breasts (by Indonesian standards) while Melly has extremely small but very responsive breasts.
I'm also a big fan of Maribaya, unfortunately my favorite girl, Tari, has apparently stopped working there. If you liked Melly, then you definitely would have enjoyed Tari; similar petite body, but Tari was far more GFE than Melly.
Please consider signing up for a paid membership so that we can pm and share info. I look forward to reading more reports from you.
DIVER69:
Took a look at your JL. INDUSTRI pics and surprise, surprise, that's actually one of my regulars! She's very accomodating sexually, she'll let you pop as many times as you can in a regular 1 hr "session" the cherry on top being the anal! She actually enjoys herself anally too, it's not just an act to accomodate us paying customers, he he he.
Unfortunately, she's moved on to "greener pastures" and can now be found in the Pasar Baru area at Classic. Goes by the name of Ci-ci.
I've left out several other interestings places (such as the famous Beverley Hills Spa near the Kota train station, where you can have sex with a Chinese girl for 1.5 million rupiah), but the above should get you started. Be sure to also check out the Reports of Distinction board, also consider using JAD2's services.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info mate. It helps a lot.
Re JAD2, I will definitely require his services, unfortunately I had to postpone my trip to next week.
[QUOTE=Jt Boi] She's very accomodating sexually, she'll let you pop as many times as you can in a regular 1 hr "session" the cherry on top being the anal! She actually enjoys herself anally too, it's not just an act to accomodate us paying customers, he he he.
[/QUOTE]
Well guys, I think you all should thank me for initiating Cici to the joys of anal sex. It took me three sessions before I finally could have a full penetration and come inside her.
After that, every time we meet, we finished our sessions with anal.
BTW, I also introduced her to sextoys. She enjoyed it that much (so did I by looking at her while she plays with herself) that I gave her a vibrator as a present.
[QUOTE=Menteng]Well guys, I think you all should thank me for initiating Cici to the joys of anal sex. It took me three sessions before I finally could have a full penetration and come inside her.
After that, every time we meet, we finished our sessions with anal.
BTW, I also introduced her to sextoys. She enjoyed it that much (so did I by looking at her while she plays with herself) that I gave her a vibrator as a present.[/QUOTE]
As I said before you are my sifu (teacher/grand master). We thank you and await your further teachings :D - as well as the results of your 'other efforts' ;).
MD II
[QUOTE=Master Diver II]As I said before you are my sifu (teacher/grand master). We thank you and await your further teachings :D - as well as the results of your 'other efforts' ;).
MD II[/QUOTE]
Thanks brother! My pleasure! I hope you recognized the tone of that posting ;)
Oh, I forgot to mention that she also enjoys threesomes (FFM) very much. :D
Before someone accuses me of ego-tripping, here is a short report of two encounters:
Royal at PangJay:
Yuyun (Youyoun): nice face, a little chubby, very GFE. Big firm boobs. Good oral skills, including AR. No rush and sat out the whole hour cuddling and stroking after I finished.
Bintang Mawar at Lokasari:
Yuni (Younee): cute, slim, beautiful mouth and full lips. Very GFE, with big boobs. Although not really hanging, she keeps supporting them while standing. Also good oral skills including AR (again? :D ). No rush and talkative after the session.
Ok, so I fully admit that I haven't RTFF... anyways wasn't planning on hobbying on my recent trip. Sort of fell into it by accident.
(1) Hotel Nikko - went for what I thought would be a legitimate massage. The girl removes my shorts early into the massage. Starts massaging around the butt cheeks. Flip over and after massaging legs, begins to massage the groin area, especially the little sacs. After a brief massage of the tummy area, asks if I would like a special massage for 500k rupes. Thought that it was a little high, but at that point couldn't refuse so said ok. I suppose I could've countered with a lower number.
Q: so exactly what is the going rate for this type of service?
(2) Zen (KTV) - went with a buddy and had a pretty nice time. Paid 3.6m rupes for the both of us (buddy took care of the tips). A little expensive, but it's cause we decided to go for the Johnny Gold (actually a pretty decent deal as we got two bottle for the price of one). Wanted to take my girl home but don't speak Bahasa and made communication difficult. Ended up going home alone but didn't necessarily mind.
Q: so what is the take home price? My buddy had also given me 750k rupes to tip the girl (assuming, incorrectly, that she would go home with me). Is that the takeout price? If so, seems pretty reasonable, but would like to solicit a few opinions.
(3) Plaza Indonesia (street) - was wandering around cause I was hungry... accosted by a few mommy's. Completely blew them off cause I utterly no idea what I would be getting into.
Q: so are they generally trustworthy? These sort of touts tend to be hit or miss... but sometimes when it misses, can get you into a whole shitload of trouble, depending on the locale.
[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
MENTENG: You, sir, are DA MAN! As per MDII's sentiments, if you would also be so kind as to let us in one some more of the women who have had the pleasure of studying under your tutelage, heh heh heh... ;)
NEUROMANCER: [1] Hotel Nikko: The going rate varies, depending on the type of place (hotel, pure MP, combination establishment, etc.), and locale (uptown, downtown, midtown, etc.). However, Rp 500K is considered quite high for a HJ, even at a place like Hotel Nikko. What exactly did your "special massage" consist of?
[2] Zen: Again, price varies as per above. And again, Rp 750K is quite high. Rp 500K for the night would be enough, and in some places that's what you'd tip for two women!
[3] Plaza Indonesia: Truthfully, it'd probably be less of a hassle to try for someone inside PI! Although the "middle man" concept can be helpful or even uncircumventable in some places, it's just an added expense if you're trying to pick up a streetwalker.
Hi guys
Anyone had an encounter with a lady who lives at Sultan Hotel-mid 40s
hangs by the pool in the pm and wears a g string
she blew me in the ladies toilet (Im a guy!) and I was going to fuck her but heard the trolley and bolted hard on and all
BTW Free service she loves bules
[quote=neuromancer]ok, so i fully admit that i haven't rtff... anyways wasn't planning on hobbying on my recent trip. sort of fell into it by accident.
(1) hotel nikko -
q: so exactly what is the going rate for this type of service?
(2) zen (ktv) -
q: so what is the take home price? my buddy had also given me 750k rupes to tip the girl (assuming, incorrectly, that she would go home with me). is that the takeout price? if so, seems pretty reasonable, but would like to solicit a few opinions.
(3) plaza indonesia (street)
q: so are they generally trustworthy?
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first, with all due respect to jackson, this certainly doesn't deserve rod rating. if anything, it shows what happens when newbie get's taken and doesn't rtff.
back to op queries, let's just say you overpaid for both special services and ktv.
for tip for massage/special service you could have gotten 1 and/or 2 babes lt, depending on where you went.
your buddy's tip would have paid for lt from any of the 'upscale' pick up joints, eg bats, tiga pula, etc.
and 3.5m would have bought a fucking harem for the week - you must have gone to some upscale ktv tht caters to local chinese indonesians. paid 3.5m and not even a take-out? unheard of.....you got taken :)
next visit, please rtff first, if i calculate correctly, you guys spent at least 4-5m rupees...for that amount, you should be limping onto the plane.
[QUOTE=Traveler1234]First, with all due respect to Jackson, this certainly doesn't deserve ROD rating. If anything, it shows what happens when newbie get's taken and doesn't RTFF. [/QUOTE]
It's quite obvious that the recommendations for ROD are bogus in most cases. I've commented on it in both this thread and letters to the editor, but have gotten no response from Jackson.
[QUOTE=Jaimito Cartero]It's quite obvious that the recommendations for ROD are bogus in most cases. I've commented on it in both this thread and letters to the editor, but have gotten no response from Jackson.[/QUOTE]
I actually wrote to J twice re specific posts that I thought were computer generated response and he did respond both times, and said 'no', he actually read them and manually made the recommendation. AND he even said went back to one in particular that i thought was not worthy, and he felt it was still worthy of RoD.
Only conclusion I can come to is he is trying to encourage newbies....
In deference to J, this is first rate board and so I have no basis to question how he runs it... :)
[quote=traveler1234]first, with all due respect to jackson, this certainly doesn't deserve rod rating. if anything, it shows what happens when newbie get's taken and doesn't rtff.
back to op queries, let's just say you overpaid for both special services and ktv.
for tip for massage/special service you could have gotten 1 and/or 2 babes lt, depending on where you went.
your buddy's tip would have paid for lt from any of the 'upscale' pick up joints, eg bats, tiga pula, etc.
and 3.5m would have bought a fucking harem for the week - you must have gone to some upscale ktv tht caters to local chinese indonesians. paid 3.5m and not even a take-out? unheard of.....you got taken :)
next visit, please rtff first, if i calculate correctly, you guys spent at least 4-5m rupees...for that amount, you should be limping onto the plane.[/quote]first of all, regarding rod - i also believe that it must be automatically generated. i definitely didn't request it and really don't see why it deserves that status myself.
anyway traveller, thanks for responding without answering any of the questions (not that you're obligated to by the way, but then what was the point of the response?). i didn't rtff in the first place cause i hadn't planned on any p4p this trip (as i mentioned in the original post). not a newbie to mongering, just a newbie to jakarta and if i had planned on p4p in the first place, would've rtff.
yes, the ktv was a place for local chinese indonesians... as my buddy is a local chinese indonesian, whereas, i'm just chinese. actually didn't feel ripped off as prices for ktv elsewhere are quite a bit higher (used to paying 200-300usd per person - hey it's a personal preference). normally have about zero attraction to indos (which i suppose is part of the reason why i hadn't planned on p4p and didn't rtff in the first place), but the girl i picked out turned out to be pretty nice and actually started changing my own opinion on indos. we also got two bottles of johnny walker gold which runs about 80usd each in duty free, which made me feel the price for ktv only was pretty reasonable. of course i would've liked to have takeout but as i mentioned in the original post, was ok without it. was actually wondering what the price for takeout at a "local chinese indonesian" ktv was. based on other points of reference, at 75usd, i think the price is pretty decent actually, again - based on my own personal past experiences outside of indonesia.
anyway, fully admit that i was ripped off by the special massage place, but in the end i paid about 50 bucks when the appropriate prices should've been. at worst i was taken for 50 bucks - really not that big a deal.
in the end, not exactly asking for advice for a return trip per se. originally posted cause i was sort of surprised at the prevalence of p4p activities. again, as i mentioned, wasn't really looking for it, but just seemed to pop up wherever i went. just goes to show i suppose that the mongering club seems to be be more fully ingrained into society than even i was aware.
[QUOTE=Jt Boi]MENTENG: You, sir, are DA MAN! As per MDII's sentiments, if you would also be so kind as to let us in one some more of the women who have had the pleasure of studying under your tutelage, heh heh heh... ;)
NEUROMANCER: [1] Hotel Nikko: The going rate varies, depending on the type of place (hotel, pure MP, combination establishment, etc.), and locale (uptown, downtown, midtown, etc.). However, Rp 500K is considered quite high for a HJ, even at a place like Hotel Nikko. What exactly did your "special massage" consist of?
[2] Zen: Again, price varies as per above. And again, Rp 750K is quite high. Rp 500K for the night would be enough, and in some places that's what you'd tip for two women!
[3] Plaza Indonesia: Truthfully, it'd probably be less of a hassle to try for someone inside PI! Although the "middle man" concept can be helpful or even uncircumventable in some places, it's just an added expense if you're trying to pick up a streetwalker.[/QUOTE]Thanks JT.
[1] Nikko - actually went there with a different buddy, one who I'm pretty sure is a non-mongerer (of course I could be wrong). He was staying there and had charged the massage for the both of us to his room - he had actually wanted to go to a different place (can't remember the name but pretty sure it's a no-special sort of place - in the hotel next to Meridien) but they were full and due to time constraints, went to the massage offered in his hotel. The special service was HJ only and fully agree that the price was a little high. Guess I should've figured that extras were available when she ripped my shorts off, but I don't speak Bahasa so didn't know how to broach the subject.
[2] Zen - I guess that I just relied on what my local buddy had guided. I suppose that he was just erring on the high side. In the end, I think that he did so because the girl that I picked... turned out that most of the other friends he takes there usually pick her as well (similar taste I suppose) so he was actually on pretty good terms with her and didn't want to mess that up. Reason I didn't end up taking her out was because of communication problems... my buddy tried to explain what the problem was, but still didn't fully understand, so figured to just skip it. He did give me her number in case I changed my mind, but again, don't speak Bahasa so figure that it wouldn't do me much good.
[3] PI - I suppose that if I am back in Jakarta, will have to try it out (skipping the middle man). Was staying at the Hyatt and reason I was there in the first place was that I was hungry so just wandered out looking for food. Paid 25k rupes for 6 sticks of satay, a bag of peanuts, 1 nasi goreng, 2 sodas and a bag of tahu goreng. At least I got a pretty decent deal on the food right? Don't think that I overpaid... LOL...
"Special massage" in a 5* hotel is ALWAYS expensive. There are postings on this from me and other contributors. As for "going rate", they usually ask 1 juta and rarely settle for less than 450,000 (in my fairly limited experience) so of course it's very bad value for money. The main "value" for me is in the excitement of not being sure whether I will get it or not! Certainly you don't always score.
The mamasans (I have seen) around the outside of PI have been there for years, over 10 years in the case of at one of them. If you are desperate and can't find a girl inside (a much better option) it would be fairly low risk to go with one of them. A safer option of course would be to get her to bring a girl (or 2 or 3) to you to see first; they will often do that. Only once have I gone with a mamasan to view her girls and in fact I went with a regular contributor to the forum. We certainly didn't get into any kind of trouble; just a taxi ride to a goldfish bowl with around 20 girls. Neither of us took one but they ranged from average to pretty good: nothing dreadful and the price I recall was fairly reasonable, maybe around 400k though fellow contributor may have a more accurate recollection? There are also pimps inside PI, usually around closing time and usually on the top floor near the Grand Hyatt entrance. They usually have a photo album so you can see who you are getting (in theory!)
[QUOTE=Traveler1234]First, with all due respect to Jackson, this certainly doesn't deserve ROD rating. If anything, it shows what happens when newbie get's taken and doesn't RTFF.[/QUOTE]Maybe that is exactly why it got an ROD rating. Ever thought of it that way? RTFF or get taken! hehe :)
A place that i have recently (last few months) started using doesnt find a mention to often here. This is in Mayestik, near Blok M.
Thanks to restrictions of home, I find it tough to slip out in the evenings/weekend, I find the trudge to Panjay (perhaps the best VFM) quite far, TC and enhanced mongering have to be restricted to when the family is out of town and finally - I am a little wary of using the 6th floor - the entrance to Hotel Melawai is on the main road, and its pretty apparent if someone sees you walking in and out of the place.
Hence - valuing discretion, and convenience (lunchtime from work) over price I have started heading to a couple of Massage parlours in Mayestik, this is just a short cab ride from Blok M. Its a busy textile market area which is good, I usually wander into a place called Sentral.
You go into the front desk and they ask you what kind of girl you want - you then have the option of a) asking for a massage and negotiating a fuck with the girl itself or b) asking for a "pake" - which is all in.
The room itself is I guess standard for the MP's - low level bed, a oval bathtub etc.
Girl comes in - usually quite pretty and in line with the photo. generally speaking it helps to describe what you want to the front desk (the lady there reminds me somehow of a faded 30's star of the silver screen gone to seed over the years).
Ive used Monna a few times - tall (5'8" I would guess), quite pretty and not skinny, buxom being the word. sexy without being fat. Her service is fantastic- she has a technique of squeezing and pumping her pussy when you are in, which is usually fatal to my intentions of lasting long. She then proceeds to massage me - which is very good, this is a skilled massage (almost painful ina Javanese way) rather than just a perfunctory press of arms and legs.
Would recommend her. I have used one of two others - where loosk were good, sex guide but overall performance average. I guess that will vary depending on the vibe you set up with the girl too.
The damage - all in is 415rps, I usually leave a 50k tip. SO its a bit more pricey than the 6th floor. But then again, for location (close to work but out of the way), convenience, and quality I think it works more than decently for a mid day option in this side of town.
Cheers
Anyone has info onthis one?
I went there with a suppliers the other day. Only know we are in Kota but no idea of prices and exact location because was pretty drunk by then
However, it was a 4-5 storeys of real girly place I can tell you.
We went on the 4th floor which is Karaoke with rooms and bedrooms within rooms you know what I mean.
Mamasan grought in the first line up of 15 girls and then second and then third and then china. Wow.
More info please I don't know how to get back there and even how the charges works? Cheers.
Again, you must be quite a lazy one or do not know how to use the search
RTFF !!!
But, you'll need to be sober for that though ...
[QUOTE=Barson]Anyone has info onthis one?
I went there with a suppliers the other day. Only know we are in Kota but no idea of prices and exact location because was pretty drunk by then
However, it was a 4-5 storeys of real girly place I can tell you.
We went on the 4th floor which is Karaoke with rooms and bedrooms within rooms you know what I mean.
Mamasan grought in the first line up of 15 girls and then second and then third and then china. Wow.
More info please I don't know how to get back there and even how the charges works? Cheers.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Smoothy]Judging from your pictures, you failed miserably on your intentions. I need to check out industri. If they keep ass lube by the bed as standard protocol, that must be a good place.[/QUOTE]
I did fail miserably, but such is life.
The lotion was actually for the massage, and she improvised for use in the anal action. Reading other posts, it seems she is quite experienced in the improvisation....Great one, I must say.
[QUOTE=Neuromancer]First of all, regarding RoD - I also believe that it must be automatically generated. I definitely didn't request it and really don't see why it deserves that status myself.
Anyway traveller, thanks for responding without answering any of the questions (not that you're obligated to by the way, but then what was the point of the response?). I didn't RTFF in the first place cause I hadn't planned on any p4p this trip (as I mentioned in the original post). Not a newbie to mongering, just a newbie to Jakarta and if I had planned on p4p in the first place, would've RTFF. [/QUOTE]
If you read closely I did provide some reference price points, for example your friends tip (750K) would have gotten 1-2 at Bats, etc. for ST (or LT if late)....
I don't see having to 'repeat in detail' what has been laid out clearly by some many others that have posted here in the past.
And since you are not a real newbie, and admitted not RTFF, not even sure why you would tell us how you got ripped off. Where you intentionally setting up yourself as an example of what NOT to do or what?
To be truthful, the major reason I even responded was directed at jackson's suggestion of putting as RoD. As someone just pointed out, J as usual is the wise one - he wanted it posted as an example of what not to do....:D
RLMAO
PS - forgot to mention that before I posted originally, tried to send you PM but couldn't get through. So I guess you're willing to pay big tip but not 19.99 for membership to ISG????
[QUOTE=Traveler1234]If you read closely I did provide some reference price points, for example your friends tip (750K) would have gotten 1-2 at Bats, etc. for ST (or LT if late).
I don't see having to 'repeat in detail' what has been laid out clearly by some many others that have posted here in the past.
And since you are not a real newbie, and admitted not RTFF, not even sure why you would tell us how you got ripped off. Where you intentionally setting up yourself as an example of what NOT to do or what?
To be truthful, the major reason I even responded was directed at Jackson's suggestion of putting as RoD. As someone just pointed out, J as usual is the wise one - he wanted it posted as an example of what not to do. :D
RLMAO
PS - I forgot to mention that before I posted originally, tried to send you PM but couldn't get through. So I guess you're willing to pay big tip but not 19.99 for membership to ISG?[/QUOTE]Actually, I only feel like I've been ripped off for the special massage. 50 bucks is a little bit high. I actually thought that the KTV was decent value. Even if I had paid the 750k for the takeout (which I didn't), I wouldn't have felt ripped off. So why the hell did I post in the first place? Well, I guess that I just felt like it. It was a new experience for me, there's no use to RTFF after the fact right and well, part of why I like posting is to spark discussion.
I realize that most mongerers don't like KTV cause they feel like it's poor value for the money, but count me in the minority I suppose. And in other parts of Asia, KTV can run much higher than USD180 per person (without takeout). I realize that Indonesia ought to have lower prices. And if I go back, then I will take this into account. The fact that we got TWO bottles of Johnny Gold in that price made everything seem pretty reasonable.
In the end, I was basically just following my buddies and since they're local figured it would be ok. Obviously, you think I got ripped off, but except for the special massage, I would have to disagree.
Look, I could say that any idiot who heads out to Wan Chai (I'm based in HK) and pays 1000-1500 HKD for a filipino or indo for LT is a dumbass and he's just throwing away his money. Especially when you can get 141 for about 400HKD ST, if you want two pops, then just go back after you wake up for another one at a total price of 800HKD. But some folks just prefer a certain game, and don't I necessarily want to begrudge them that game. I felt like 180USD for KTV with no takeout is a fair price. I enjoyed my time there. Got to drink lots of booze. And got to hang with a buddy.
Not familiar with BATS. And if you think about it, KTV takeout is typically LT, so 750k for KTV (LT) takeout is about the same as two BATS ST takeouts, right?
Anyway, glad to have my first ROD. Do you go around authorizing every damn request for ROD? I wasn't even the one who asked for it! Although not having been around ISG for very long, I see quite alot of reports with the "request for ROD" tacked onto the bottom. Most of which aren't terrible distinctive. I guess there must've been something about mine that must've hit a nerve?
PS.-- have absolutely no problem with paying the 19. 99 or whatever the membership price is, though I refuse to be goaded into doing so. Ie. Lets say I countered with 400k to the special massage girl and she said something along the lines of "cheap bastard". I would've not only refused, there's a good chance I would've hopped up and slapped her across the face. I will sign up for a paying membership when I damn well feel like it. If you look closely at my membership details, I've only had this account for something like a couple of weeks. I actually tried registering about a month or two earlier I think, but had some problems getting the registration authorized (don't ask me why, have no idea). Sort of curious, did you sign up for a paying membership as soon as you discovered the board? If not, how long did you hang around the board before ante-ing up?
Anyway, I've been hanging around ISG for about 1-2 months (so I suppose you could say I've been freeloading for all this time). But the whole point of registering for the free account was so I could post stuff. And hopefully add value if not cash support. Now I guess my initial Jakarta post was no value added for you, but now that's it's a ROD, I guess that I've added some value right?
[QUOTE=Bulai69] Only once have I gone with a mamasan to view her girls and in fact I went with a regular contributor to the forum. We certainly didn't get into any kind of trouble; just a taxi ride to a goldfish bowl with around 20 girls. Neither of us took one but they ranged from average to pretty good: nothing dreadful and the price I recall was fairly reasonable, maybe around 400k though fellow contributor may have a more accurate recollection? [/QUOTE]
"Fellow contributor" can confirm what you've written. The mamasan's name was Vany (Fanny :D) Actually there are more fishbowls in that street. Only for take-aways!
Finally RTFF (a little bored tonight). Have to say that the search function is really very effective. In that you don't get a bunch of non-related topics (maybe picked up some tips from google? ). Not much info on Nikko hotel, but plenty on PI and on KTVs in general.
Regarding KTVs, is it required to know the mommie in advance? More accustomed to HK, Taiwan, China. And knowing the mommie is usually good advice. Ie. Would it be safe to just walk into one of the KTVs mentioned and have a mommie assigned to you at random? I've generally stuck to KTVs which I already knew the mommie or a trusted friend knew one.
Looking forward to my next trip to Jakarta, though not sure when that will be.
All the discussion about whether such and such price is a rip-off or not only reinforces my conclusion that there are many similar options available in Jakarta at very different prices. So much depends on opportunity, place, time, context and luck. That's why this forum is so popular!
A beautiful stunner you pick up at BATS can be a total dud fuck and charge you a fortune. While an average looking ayam kampung picked up at Atrium and fucked in your apartment could be a sex toy you wet dream about for the rest of your life. And the cost is hardly more than small change.
But some mongers want the comfort and experience of a KTV and could be bothered with the hassle and uncertain outcome of the mall scene. And if you don't have much time on your hands and you have to accompany your client, your options are limited.
As a long term resident in Jakarta, it's great to have the luxury to explore the scene as a hobby. Personally I avoid the KTV/ Five Star disco/ hotel scene because for me it's not so interesting, is too bule-dominated, and produces mediocre results for high price. In my opinion the best options are available in Kota and sometimes in Blok M. And I'm getting into the ayam in the mall scene a bit more. And building up a "database" of hp numbers.... But it's taken time to learn the lessons from my mistakes.
But my main "problem" is that I don't have enough time time and semen left after fucking the girlies I fuck "for free" after making connections on websites and chat sites. But as per previous discussions, "freebies" are rarely actually free.
It all just goes to show that Jakarta is a wonderland. It's a fairy realm of available women who just want to fuck, sometimes for money, sometimes for the status and excitement of fucking a bule with dinner/disco on the side, sometimes just because they're horny fuck-bunnies.
If only there were a few dance-in-the-nude Bangkok girlie bars and the odd BJ bar, the place would be absolute fucking perfection.....
This message is for Mangga. I am heading to Jakarta soon and would appreciate some advice on mongering there. Even better if can forward me some of the contact numbers of some girls there. Looking for indonesian (local or chinese, great boobs and definitely do anal). Dont mind paying more
Thanks
I am a MALAYsian but had made numerous trips to JKT for the wonderful golf courses you guys have. Had a few escapades with the lovely caddies but nothin to shout about. Basically, it will cost you around 500-800k for an all nighter and they'd probably want to hang around the next day (for free food and some light shopping). I'd say value for money but since we play golf everyday, how many times can you go, right.
The Mall hunting sounds very interesting and had RTFF on Atrium and will be staying at OAsis Amir next week. Any advice for us newbies? much appreciated..
We'd usually go to Stadium for our quick fix since it is relatively cheap and convenient. Had a mommy named EMA on the disco floor who can be coaxed to coming back after she finishes work for FOC. Be ready to open the door at 4.30 am though. The girls are less memorable (name wise that is) but mostly ok.
Last week tried Klassik Spa at hotel Classic and found the selections are quite extrordinary. The package starts at Rp550 (Massage, BM and ML) and 750 for the freelancers (Sinetron type girls also available, to my eyes, that is). Had a 38DD package named IN IN which gave one hell of BM with her soft DDs. very accomodating and allowed seconds if you can (extra Rp50k).
Any other similar joint that i can sample? will try to provide FR once done.
JKT rules
MJHJ
[QUOTE=Mangga]All the discussion about whether such and such price is a rip-off or not only reinforces my conclusion that there are many similar options available in Jakarta at very different prices. So much depends on opportunity, place, time, context and luck. That's why this forum is so popular!
A beautiful stunner you pick up at BATS can be a total dud fuck and charge you a fortune. While an average looking ayam kampung picked up at Atrium and fucked in your apartment could be a sex toy you wet dream about for the rest of your life. And the cost is hardly more than small change.
But some mongers want the comfort and experience of a KTV and could be bothered with the hassle and uncertain outcome of the mall scene. And if you don't have much time on your hands and you have to accompany your client, your options are limited.
As a long term resident in Jakarta, it's great to have the luxury to explore the scene as a hobby. Personally I avoid the KTV/ Five Star disco/ hotel scene because for me it's not so interesting, is too bule-dominated, and produces mediocre results for high price. In my opinion the best options are available in Kota and sometimes in Blok M. And I'm getting into the ayam in the mall scene a bit more. And building up a "database" of hp numbers.... But it's taken time to learn the lessons from my mistakes.
But my main "problem" is that I don't have enough time time and semen left after fucking the girlies I fuck "for free" after making connections on websites and chat sites. But as per previous discussions, "freebies" are rarely actually free.
It all just goes to show that Jakarta is a wonderland. It's a fairy realm of available women who just want to fuck, sometimes for money, sometimes for the status and excitement of fucking a bule with dinner/disco on the side, sometimes just because they're horny fuck-bunnies.
If only there were a few dance-in-the-nude Bangkok girlie bars and the odd BJ bar, the place would be absolute fucking perfection.....[/QUOTE]
I am sad to learn that my client in JKT has decided to switch vendors. I fear I have made my last trip (on someone else's dime, at any rate). Those 300k+ miles on SQ may now come in handy.
Has anyone stayed at the Hotel Ibis Mangga Dua? They appear to have very cheap rates, but likely a sh*thole?
[QUOTE=Chuckie7611]This message is for Mangga. I am heading to Jakarta soon and would appreciate some advice on mongering there. Even better if can forward me some of the contact numbers of some girls there. Looking for indonesian (local or chinese, great boobs and definitely do anal). Dont mind paying more
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Hey Chuckie, nice to have a message specially for me, but actually I'm not one of the legends who have all the knowledge. A mere amateur compared with some of the guys in this forum. To find out who they are and to get the info you want, just RTFF. And read the forum to find out what that means.... Good luck!
Just got back from a few weeks in Jakarta (wish I could live there for a while)
Went to a hotel just north of Harmoni in Jl Gaja Mada directly opposite Dunkin Donuts. Hotel name was Malborough I think.
The Hotel has a spa on the ground floor and on the second level is a very modern bar where one goes after a spa or you can go directly there if you wish. The place is full of girls with several momasons. Prices start with local girls Rp350,000 (about 20 years old) including short term room (1 hour), then Rp500,00 - Rp1,000,000 for the very attractive Indonesian then Rp1,500,000 for Chinese, Taiwan, Vietnam or Russian girls.
Every night there are sexy Indonesian dancers that strip off and dance topless on the bartops. 9.30pm and 11.00pm - 30min shows.
You sit at your well lit table and the momasons will bring around different groups of girls you can choose from.
[QUOTE=Brandon88]Has anyone stayed at the Hotel Ibis Mangga Dua? They appear to have very cheap rates, but likely a sh*thole?[/QUOTE]Ibis is part of the Accor group so minimal quality is guaranteed. Ibis is one star below Mercure. Ibis has its own masseuses because I remember enquiring once in Mercure about one of my favourite masseuses and I was told she had been transferred to Ibis.
Also, that hotel is very close to Komplex Kota Indah (Pangeran Jayakarta) for girls.
XXL is right that Ibis has its own massage girls. I once stayed in the Ibis in Jl Wahid Hasyim (wouldn't recommend it - tiny tiny rooms) and after I had settled in I received a phone call asking me if I wanted "anything extra in my room". I was very tempted but at the time I had to go out to meet clients, so I didn't avail myself of the "extra services" but it was quite clear what was being offered.
I stayed at the Ibis Mangga Dua for a couple of nights in 2003. From what I remember the room was not that big but it was very new and clean with modern facilities. Good value at the time.
[QUOTE=Mojohojo].. had RTFF on Atrium and will be staying at OAsis Amir next week. Any advice for us newbies? much appreciated..[/QUOTE]
M., if you're Malaysian, you'll probably speak the lingo, or at least understand some of it, which will make things quite easy and convenient for you... Just walk over to any girl you fancy and have a nice chat to her, you'll be surprised how simple it is. If any, stick fear of rejection somewhere no one can see it, in my experience most girls are well aware of the game around them - if they're not into it themselves.. have a great stay, cheers.
Brandon88 - hopefully you'll find your way back somehow. I've stayed at 2 Ibis' near Sarinah and they were fine cleanliness-wise but small. They were very cheap. In fact I didn't stay overnight, I just used them to take back girls I picked up in Atrium who were so urchin-like, even I didn't feel like going back to Le Meridien with them. And believe me, that tells you a lot!! The service seems good. On one occassion I arrive with a girl and no condoms but I gave the doorman 50k as I walked in and within seconds he was at my door with a packet of 3.
If you are charging your hotel and can't justify two rooms at different hotels on the same night (not easy on the face of it), when you check out, ask for a receipt marked "meeting room" or "conference room", then you can say you took clients there for a meeting as there wasn't a room at the hotel you are staying at. The will be no audit trail (NB accountants).
boys I haven't been to jakarta in almost two years but I have fond memories of my last visit. going back again in a few weeks.
Do you still have a fair choice of free-range ayam?
Any leads?
Hi Bebek,
How can I contact you?I have some private questions need to ask you.
Thanks
Aloha,
been to JKT last weekend, but nothing much to report. Stayed the first 2 nights with my favorite regular. One afternoon through the bars in Kota, nice but not sensational. One evening in 30, but almost empty, most likely because of the muslim new year. Unfortunately I couldn't discover anything new.
But JKT has become pretty expensive in the past 1-2 years, isn't it? Or is it normal inflation?
Cheers!
There are just as many "free range ayam" as ever. I agree with Ekspat who says the price has risen somewhat but I think that view depends to some extent on your "base" currency. You can still spend all night with a girl who would charge 250 USD for an hour in UK and only pay 30 - 50 USD (and get infinitely better "service" in every respect).
[QUOTE=Bulai69]There are just as many "free range ayam" as ever. I agree with Ekspat who says the price has risen somewhat but I think that view depends to some extent on your "base" currency. You can still spend all night with a girl who would charge 250 USD for an hour in UK and only pay 30 - 50 USD (and get infinitely better "service" in every respect).[/QUOTE]
Thanks for that Bulai. Good to know that nothing much has changed - perhaps just a bit of price adjustment to offset inflation?
:-)
The pics below are very small and I apologise for thats the best my old Panasonic x300 (it was brand new then) could do back in 2004. But these two gals didn't ask for anything other than a good time and plans to go shopping the next day ("baby, I need a new mobile pone, baby"). As I remember it, we gave 'em about 200,000 rupiah each in the morning that was roilled up and slipped into their purse. Plus we gave another 50,000 each for taxi. I think we picked them up at a shopping mall, had soem drinks and dinner and then fucked 'em all night - swapping rooms to swap girls. They were happy with that but refused to do foursomes and threesomes.
I've gotten into this discussion with several senior ISG members and we've agreed to disagree for the most part and have remained friends. At the risk of distracting the horny bastards in this forum, I thought I'd roll this pebble and see what y'all think.
Granted that ISG is mostly about organised prostitution and we've all played our part in ensuring the trade goes from strength to strength. Given a choice, however, I'd always go for the freelancers.
True lah, chasing freelancers leaves much more to chance and you're more likely to waste time and money than with pimped birds but there is something about the chase, the GFE experience (90% sure if you treat her well) and even a slightly dubuious moral arguement that favours the freelancers in my opion.
We've all heard stories of young girls being sold by their families, duped by vicious conmen, etc. Rather than deal with the guilt that comes with that dark scene, I'd rather encourage those birds out there who have an entreprenurial streak. In my opinion, Indonesia and Sri Lanka are two asian countries with more than the average asian country's share of free range ayam. Perhaps, Indonesia more than Sri Lanka (even though I'd had plenty in Colombo).
Perhaps Jackson will consider starting a new thread dedicated to mall hunting etc. Indonesia is one country that merits it!
[QUOTE=Mango Jango]
Granted that ISG is mostly about organised prostitution and we've all played our part in ensuring the trade goes from strength to strength. Given a choice, however, I'd always go for the freelancers.
True lah, chasing freelancers leaves much more to chance and you're more likely to waste time and money than with pimped birds but there is something about the chase, the GFE experience (90% sure if you treat her well) and even a slightly dubuious moral arguement that favours the freelancers in my opion.
We've all heard stories of young girls being sold by their families, duped by vicious conmen, etc. Rather than deal with the guilt that comes with that dark scene, I'd rather encourage those birds out there who have an entreprenurial streak. In my opinion, Indonesia and Sri Lanka are two asian countries with more than the average asian country's share of free range ayam. Perhaps, Indonesia more than Sri Lanka (even though I'd had plenty in Colombo).
Perhaps Jackson will consider starting a new thread dedicated to mall hunting etc. Indonesia is one country that merits it![/QUOTE]
I think you should define "free-lancers" and "mall-hunting" first.
Is a girl that daily goes to the mall/bar to be picked up, a free-lancer? Probably (?) there will be no mama/papasan to force them to accept any monger. But in my opinion, a free-lancer is someone that goes to those places irregularly for moonlighting.
Mall-hunting: is it a hunt when you go to mall's where those so-called freelancers are present and in fact are wandering in there, waiting for you to invite them?
To tell the truth, I go to the malls regularly to guide mallhunters, but I always tell them what my thoughts are.
Maybe we should ask for a separate thread containing reports about fucking amateurs?
I'll give you an example. I've been performing what my good friend JAD2 calls "charity sex" for some time now. The women are housewives or widows that need a good fuck :D. They don't charge anything, but as said before in this forum, sex can't be free: I have to pay the hotelroom.
It started with one lonely housewife and now others and merry widows share my phonenumber. I have to tell you though, that the majority of women that present themselves are 5/10 and most of the time, being in the age-group of MILFS, rather chuby. But, they are real amateurs and very, very GFE.
As a newbie to Jakarta, I find the directions given by our fellow brother Mighty Spearsman very concise indeed. I was in Jakarta for 1 night and don't have much time to check out the places. The next time most likely I like to check into Travel Hotel. Can anyone give the telp numbers? Thanks
SLB
[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]The Mangga Dua area is in the northeastern part of Kota, the oldest part of Jakarta, in the northern part of town.
First, you are not all that far from Atrium Mall, if you are into mall-hunting. The malls at Mangga Dua might also be good for mall-hunting, don't know.
From the Novotel, you can easily go down to Jalan Industri Raya, heavily discussed on ISG by Asian Rain, me and others. Somewhat low-end, best for an inexpensive quickie.
From there, head west over to Jalan Mangga Besar, where you'll find Hotel Travel down a side road, TC Spa at Lokasari Plaza, Olympic MP nearby the Lokasari Plaza, Patra MP and some other massage places also mentioned on ISG. Someone recently posted several photos of this area taken from an airplane.
Continue west on Jalan Mangga Besar and you'll reach the intersection with Jalan Hayam Wuruk. You'll know it because a Mercure Hotel will be to your right at this corner. Turn left onto Hayam Wuruk. One short block on your left is a side alley where Kartika and Berlian Spas are both located. The landmark is the Suisse Bakery on the corner (good "kelapa" or coconut buns here). You should also be able to see signs for both MPs from Jl. Hayam Wuruk.
If you don't turn into the small alley, but instead you keep walking past the Suisse Bakery, the next alley on the left includes Mongo Mas Spa and a couple of other MPs rarely mentioned on this board.
Keep walking down Jl. Hayam Wuruk for two more blocks; in front of you will be the stairs to access the Transjakarta bus station. Left of the stairs is a bland-looking mall with a great cafe (Ooh La La) on the ground floor that is open 24 hours and has lots of interesting black-and-white photos of Jakarta on the walls. To your immediate left is an alley which quickly leads to the infamous Stadium Spa and Night Club.
I've left out several other interestings places (such as the famous Beverley Hills Spa near the Kota train station, where you can have sex with a Chinese girl for 1.5 million rupiah), but the above should get you started. Be sure to also check out the Reports of Distinction board, also consider using JAD2's services.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Menteng]I think you should define "free-lancers" and "mall-hunting" first.
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It started with one lonely housewife and now others and merry widows share my phonenumber. I have to tell you though, that the majority of women that present themselves are 5/10 and most of the time, being in the age-group of MILFS, rather chuby. But, they are real amateurs and very, very GFE.[/QUOTE]
ohh I wasn't even thinking of the bored and lonely housewife scene. Good on you buddy... keep 'em happy but watch out for the angry hubby.
I was drawing a distinction between those women who get to keep what they make off their bodies as opposed to those who work for a pimp or some sort.
Most of the freelancers in Colombo will not go out with you at night as they have regular families. They go home at night but they entertain for a fee during the day. They have bills to pay and sex gives them a helping hand. Lots of 'em work at beauty parlors, hotels or as sales promotion girls (SPGs). Not unlike the Jakarta I remember.
i’m a newbie to jakarta and these are my notes from the 2+ weeks i spent there before christmas. i got a lot of information from this forum and just wanted to contribute my bit. other newbies exploring the mangga besar and mangga dua area may find this useful.
madona club (jl mangga besar 12)
directions: turn left into mangga besar from hayam wuruk, turn left first traffic light, madona on left
girls: mostly 5s and 6s, with the occasional 7
room: 5.5
cost: ~rp230k + rp50k tip to girl
comments: best time after 7pm, girls mamasan brought me were 6s at most but hv seen some stunners at other tables and at the door, lighting is poor, next time pick girl at door before entering
bintang mawar (next to madona club)
girls: mostly 5s and 6s, with the occasional 7
room: 5
cost: ~rp200k for girl (girl will ask for at least rp180k) + rp70k for room
comments: best time after 3pm, all girls are freelancers so best chance of finding gfe, lighting is adequate, my fav place
hotels travel spa (jl mangga besar 8)
directions: turn left into mangga besar from hayam wuruk, turn right at second traffic light, hotel on the left, enter the spa from door to left of hotel entrance
girls: mostly 5s and 6s, with the occasional 7
room: 7
cost: ~rp280k + rp50k tip to girl
comments: best time after 6pm, few girls if too early, lighting is good
today country / teria ceria (at lokasari)
directions: turn left into jl mangga besar from jl hayam wuruk, lokasari is on the left between the first the second traffic lights. go to the end of "boulevard", go to the second floor of the shopping complex, go through car park exit at the top of escalator, tc entrance to the right, rp20k cover charge incl one drink
girls: mostly 5s, with the occasional 6 or 7
room: 4
cost: “house” girl ~rp240k + rp50k tip to girl, freelancer ~rp200k to rp300k for girl, ~rp100k for room
comments: best time 3pm to 6pm weekends, place is dead at night. many part-timers in late-teens making pocket money? service generally poor? tried 2x and never went back. very, very dark, stand near the toilet to get good look at girl.
super (down the road from jayakarta hotel)
directions: turn left into jl labu from jl hayam wuruk (before mangga besar junction), go to end of jl labu, super on left
girls: mostly 5s, with the occasional 6 or 7
room: 5.5-6
cost: ~rp240k + rp50k tip to girl
comments: lighting is adequate
rasa sayang (around the corner from super)
girls: mostly 5s and 6s, with the occasional 7
cost: never tried, lil pete was too pooped
comments: too dark inside, most girls upstairs
sari ayu (jl pangeran jayakarta)
directions: turn left into pangeran jayakarta from gunung sahari, go straight until nearly at the mangga dua end, sa is down side road on right of panjay, next to “ph massage” sign, another landmark is furniture store on left side of panjay
girls: mostly 6s, with some 7s
room: 4.5
cost: ~rp220k + rp50k tip to girl
comments: drinks rp40k-50k, careful how many your girl orders, lighting is good
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I think tipping 50k to each girl is going a bit overboard. I generally do as the locals do, and I don't believe that any of them tip, as a rule of thumb. Saying this, I did tip 50k last night at the LA club when I was out with JAD, Menteng and PB. Superb service from Abba, a 20 something fucklet with a golden plated tongue. A great BBBJ, AR and FJ were all part of an unhurried session.
For FL's you take to your hotel, you may be out some taxi money, but not much more. I really thing that the room/lady fee covers the costs and tips should only cover special requests or performances.
About ten years back, I picked up some excellent freelancers at the Thunderbird Lounge/Bar/Club. Does that still exist? I remeber it not being very far from Hotel Indoneisa - a gov't hotel that was supposedly 5 star but it was crappy five star for sure. Fortunately, it was very girl friendly. The concierge helped me throw out one bird who was getting a bit vocal after a few drinks.
[QUOTE=Jaimito Cartero]I think tipping 50k to each girl is going a bit overboard. I generally do as the locals do, and I don't believe that any of them tip, as a rule of thumb. [/QUOTE]Where do you get this idea that locals generally don't tip in a place LA Bar? On some of the highly active Bhasa Indonesian boards, there are tons of reports from places like LA Bar with detailed information including what is paid. Most of the reports indicate tips in the 50-100K range. Are there some locals who stiff the girls? I am sure they are, but to suggest that this is the norm does not coincide with what I read on those sites nor with the behavior of the locals I hang out with.
Obviously tipping is up to each individual. Personally, I am not going to stiff a girl who gives a genuine effort to please. I mean what do these girls get from the 220K room fee, 90K? You would probably think nothing of buying a Blok M girl a whiskey cola for 50K to just shake her ass next you. Of course, If I do get a girl with a bad attitude who doesn't try to please I will not give a tip. Luckily, in Jakarta I can count on my the fingers of one hand that has happened in the brothel bars. Also, on occasion I have gotten my world totally rocked and tipped 100K as well. Once again tipping is a personal issue, but claiming that you are adhering to local custom is a false characterization of local behavior and IMHO a real cheap charlie move.
Checked in late evening and asked for in romm massage.
Gita arrived for a decent massage ( including happy end -HJ ).
At 11 PM I jumped into the CJ's to see the action - so so.
At 10 minutes to 2 AM ( they close at 2 AM ,I went there again and it was still packed with girls who didnt want to loose the slight chance to get some income
I saw Ita, a little mature lady, she asked for 600K and we agreed on 400K.
Into my room , a shower and to business.
She was GFE and good BBBJ.
At 3 30 AM and 2 pops she left home.
Bebek,
How can I contact you? I have something important want to ask you. What about can you contact me?
[QUOTE=Bebek]My email address is:
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I will leave tomorrow so i decided to visit the Attrium Plaza, Sumo Massage and Block M.
Got a Silver Bird Taxi at the hotel fron door and booked him for all nite - using the Meter.
First stop at the Attrium Plaza - some girls around the fron doors, nothig special ( all of them 3-5 ).
Then to the Sumo Shiatsu MP at Kelapa Gading - BlockC.
It was mentioned few times here lately - I was there on the openning ( 2004 ).
At the front desk asked for massage only and up to the second floor.
One of the girls asked what package I would like to have - 500K for the right room girls ( 6-7 ) or 800K for the left room ( not much better then the right room girls )
price include 90 minutes massage and FS.
I choosed the VIP room ( little bigger ) and right room girl for 650K.
Started with a shower and then a nonsense massage.
"Rere" was nice and GFE but very mechanical , I poped once and rest till the end of the time - tipped her with 50K.
If you choose the standard package for 500K - it is the most cost efective deal in town.
Then left to Block M - one beer at "Top Gun" and then to "My Bar".
Live music and some funny girls - checked the price , 250K-400K ST.
Left after an hour back to my hotel - taxi demage for almost 5 hours was 400K.
Jakarta is not more expensive then Bangkok - and the girls are much much better in all meannings.
Sumo is 2000BHT and ST is around 1500BHT
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Bebek,
I try to PM you but you dont accpet PM message. Can you PM me back?
[QUOTE=Nicky Vicky]Bebek,
How can I contact you? I have something important want to ask you. What about can you contact me?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mongerxx] Of course, If I do get a girl with a bad attitude who doesn't try to please I will not give a tip.
Once again tipping is a personal issue, but claiming that you are adhering to local custom is a false characterization of local behavior and IMHO a real cheap charlie move.[/QUOTE]JC must have had the wrong information. But from his posting, I understand that he too, will tip depending on the girl's attitude.
[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]Stopped by Kartika Spa (walking distance from the Mangga Besar busway stop, a couple of blocks over from the Stadium nightclub) for my usual monthly visit with Cynthia.
While getting started, Cynthia said "by the way, one of your friends stopped by here a couple of weeks and asked specifically for me. Thanks for recommending me to him." I replied, "was he nice to you?" and her reply was essentially "yes, he was a very nice man, he was nice to me, and he gave me a decent tip." She then proceeded to give me a great massage+FS session - a nice way to start off the New Year.
While I would expect nothing less than gentlemanly behavior from any ISG guy, still I would like to thank whoever that person was for (a) making me look good, and (b) treating Cynthia properly. I've recommended Cynthia in PMs to at least a half-dozen ISG posters during the past few months, so I'm not sure who it was, however. Feel free to send me a PM if you wish to identify yourself.[/QUOTE]
Yes, I'm quoting one of my own posts, from early January 2007. As Yogi Berra (US baseball player) once said, "it's like deja vu all over again."
Stopped by Kartika Spa last week, this time to hook up with Sonia, a cute late-20s slender Chinese girl with those great long brown nipples.
Once upstairs, Sonia said "by the way, your friend stopped by last week and asked specifically for me. Thanks for recommending me to him" - exactly the same scenario as when I was with Cynthia in early January. My "friend" had a two-girl session with Sonia and someone else, and Sonia's report was similar to Cynthia's - he treated them both very nicely and gave a decent tip. Sonia then proceeded to give me a great massage+FS session (although she is not as GFE as Cynthia).
Not sure if it was Regin Harden (the ISG member who had hooked up with Cynthia) who had asked for Sonia, but whoever that person is, I would like to thank him for (a) making me look good, and (b) treating Sonia properly.
BTW, I believe that the other girl was a new Kartika employee, Mornie, a cute 23-year-old with huge tits and great legs - much better than average for Kartika!
[QUOTE=Mongerxx]Where do you get this idea that locals generally don't tip in a place LA Bar? [/QUOTE]
I was merely commenting on the 50k tip or 70k included in the report I was replying to. I tip for good service, and if it's not good service, they get no tip. Many of the girls I've talked with have indicated they get no tips from locals. Perhaps this is just the standard ploy to get more out of me. I know that I had tipped at some places like Stadium and TC and the girl seemed surprised as hell when I gave her a tip.
[QUOTE=Cooze Hound]Guys,
I have just joined ISG but having lived in Jakarta for 3 years I am a hard player there.
Cooze Hound[/QUOTE]
Welcome,
Please share your Jakarta experiences. It's good to know new members and read their reports. It might add information on places the other members don't know of.
I went out with JAD and PB the other day to Atrium. There were at least a dozen available from our quick tour. JAD of course talked to a twosome I had shown interest in, and we had some drinks with them. Nothing came out of it, but a shorter headscarfed girl with tongue stud certainly got my interest.
Later on, as I was leaving back to my hotel, I passed the benches out front, and got the "Hello, Mr" from a few different ladies. I looked back, and saw a big breasted 20 year old named Linda. She was upfront, and wanted to negotiate price. I told her I pay 200k. She said fine. We walked back to the Oasis Amir, and up to the room for fun. She was trying to get done quick and back to get another sucker, however, which is always off putting.
However, she had a nice body, with D size tits, and at first I thought she had a shaved pussy, but she just had a very little patch. She said it's always been like that. She also complained that her tits were too big. I guess for an Indo, that might be true. She's be a star in the US.
No BJ, but otherwise pretty compliant. DATY she started to go a bit crazy, but not sure how real it was, seemed pretty juiced up. She took a pretty heavy pounding, without too much complaint. Then she got ready to leave. No nude pics, but I got some clothed ones I may put up later if any interest. When it came time for money, the price had magically gone up, then wanted "security" money, and kept whining. I gave her what I agreed to, plus some taxi money and sent her on her way.
I saw her the next night when I headed over to Atrium late. Between the Oasis Amir hotel and Atrium I found 5 "friendly" girls on the sidewalk (most sitting near the Aston Atrium gate), plus another 6 on the benches in front of the mall. I never thought there would be that many here this late. Ranged from 4-7 in looks. I've been doing every other day, so I skipped Wednesday.
I haven't run into a real gem at the mall, service wise, but there's always hope, and it's a bit of an adventure.
I first stumbled onto Kartika Massage in 2002 when I was in Jakarta for just over a week to attend a wedding. I learnt about it and several others like it from an internet search but Kartika was the only one that I could actually find with the directions that were given at the time. I went alone about 4.00pm one afternoon and I felt quite apprehensive as I walked down the gloomy lane that runs off Hayam Wuruk next to the Swisse bakery.
I had been going to Jakarta for many years and actually lived there in the mid 1980s for about 3 years. I was not aware that these types of places even existed back then. I only remember going to the Tanamor, a place called the Tanbora and a pub (Jaya?)located near the Jakarta Theater and that was it!
As I entered the Kartika I was swarmed upon by many women, it was so dark I couldn’t adjust my eyes to see the ladies faces clearly. I wasn’t sure what many of them looked like and with the constant rubbing of my arms and shoulders with claims of ’I give you good service mister’ or ‘do you want hamburger?’ I was slowly lulled into a strange sense of expectant pleasure. I new Kartika offered full body to body (Thai) massage and that was all what I expected to get. Quite naive I was at the time.
A short plump woman with enormous breasts had claimed me and wouldn’t let me go. At that time there were many faded photographs of past masseurs on the walls and I was desperate to choose a different lady from the photos instead of this woman however it was unlikely any of them worked there anymore. She eventually won me over with persistence and we went upstairs.
I was in an extremely horny state and it didn’t take long before I shot my load. Right in the middle of the body to body rub! I hadn’t even got to the mandi kucing part!..How embarrassing! Anyway as we still had another 30 minutes to go I asked her to give me a hand job and I said I would give her another RP40K. She obliged and even offered me to’ put one’ in her instead. I wasn’t sure if I could come the second time so I declined. (She was rather plump anyway) In the end I got off the extra shot paid her the Rp130K + RP40K – no tip was even mentioned then and left a happy man.
I’ve been back to Kartika many times since then. Last time was last month. I love the place. Sleazy and grubby it may be but I have my favourite there. I look forward to my return.
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Folks, thank you all for your advice and messages at various points about Jakarta. And your invaluable postings. Just finishing up my first trip. And I must say I had a great time. Here are my observations. Slightly longish post, but given the help I have received from the forum, thought I would share most of my observations.
I would pick JKT over SIN / BKK any time for partying. My tastes tend to be “slightly upscale” – so not Gaylang / Patpong / Nana kind. (no offense meant for those who like these fine places.) But for me JKT turned out to be great.
Got in from Singapore on Wednesday morning. Had booked into the Shangri-la using the Value Rate – so had a Mercedes S-class waiting for me at the airport. The ride gave me a first taste of the infamous Jakarta traffic. Got into the hotel, checked in and started making some calls. Over the past weeks, based on advice of some of the members, I had started making some contacts with girls in Jakarta. This process, thought a bit slow and painful given the idiosyncrasies of faceparty, had given me some good phone numbers.
Called one and fixed the plan for the evening 8 pm for her to come to the hotel for dinner etc. Called the second one – she was ready to come to my room immediately! I had to tell her not to unfortunately, since had some meetings lined up. Post that, had a in room massage from the Spa, which was not bad at all.
8 :30 pm, met up with this gorgeous 24 year old, who had spent 3 years in LA, in the lobby. She turned a few heads, as we walked into the restaurant. Couple drinks, nice dinner, nice conversation, we were ready to hit the “Bar At The Shangrila (B.A.T.S.).” Pretty awful band playing, with quite a good crowd though. Had a drink there, and she suggested we go to CJ’s. CJ’s had a much better band and music. After an hour of bumping and grinding, came back to the hotel for an all-nighter. She hung out all night, and left at 11 next morning. Damage? Dinner and drinks. Not bad, faceparty.
After she left, I logged on and had a couple other girls reply to my offer to meet up. Fixed up with one for the evening – I wanted to meet her at 7:30 since wanted to hit the gym. She said I will come at 6, and just hang out in your room, while you go to the gym. Got back from the gym, she was freshly showered, waiting. She said she is “openminded” and bisexual – but is preserving her virginity ;-) She wanted to go to “Heaven Lounge” (apparently has a lot of bisexual women there). Not having read anything about it, I did not want to venture out in unknown territories. I tend to be quite risk averse. Then she proceeded to give me a BBBJ right there and then. Having shot my load, I made some excuse about needing to meet some colleagues urgently, gave her taxi money, and sent her along her merry way. Then went down to Satoo restaurant to have a sumptuous buffet dinner. (it is really good!)
After dinner, 10 pm, headed down to BATS. The band (average) was just coming on, and the crowds were slowly building up. I will not describe BATS again – it has already been described before by other members. Similar experience – took a Sumatran girl up for ST. She confirmed the new rule – have to walk the girl down if she leaves middle of night. So be prepared.
So all in all, a fun first experience in JKT!
Hi Chacha
Will be in JKT soon... First visit there for business.
Staying around Menteng area.
Any advice/info on places around this area?
Also, can you care to share the contact who had worked in LA?
Am not conversant with Bahasa and will need to converse in english.
Which sites did you find your contacts from?
Many thanks!
[QUOTE=Chacha]She confirmed the new rule – have to walk the girl down if she leaves middle of night. So be prepared.[/QUOTE]
I liked your post. However, I'm not sure what you mean by "new rule". I've been coming to Jakarta close to 10 years now. The security at the Shangri-La is notorious for "shaking down" the girls. They always hit the girls up for money if you don't escort them down - threatening to call the police to report them as prostitutes. Most security anywhere in Jakarta will get away with whatever they can. It's always nice if you can escort the girls out. Some of them have told me stories of the security guys not only wanting money, but sex and/or nude photos.
Just found out that company has booked me into Four Seasons hotel.
Any info or advice regarding this hotel?
Does it have a bar that is as hot as BATS?
Thanks
Spa in Jakarta
Hi Bebek,
Is that most of the Spa in Jakarta. Example: for local Indonesian girls, Chinese PRC and Others girls. Is that they have their different own mamasan to lead their own group of girls show to customers?
[QUOTE=Laksaman]Just found out that company has booked me into Four Seasons hotel.
Any info or advice regarding this hotel?
Does it have a bar that is as hot as BATS?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
The four seasons doesn't have shit. But you are close to Bats.
[QUOTE=Nicky Vicky]Spa in Jakarta
Hi Bebek,
Is that most of the Spa in Jakarta. Example: for local Indonesian girls, Chinese PRC and Others girls. Is that they have their different own mamasan to lead their own group of girls show to customers?[/QUOTE]I posted earlier about a striptease bar at a Hotel. The correct name is Malioboro Hotel and Spa.
Located on Lj Gajah Mada No 13 A Jakarta Pusat opposite Dunkin Doughnuts.
The hotel’s lower floor has the full blown spa and works. The second floor has a large bar area full of ‘wanita’ all dressed in the same pink coloured erotic harem type costume. Normal hotel rooms are located above.
I was there last month on a Saturday night. You enter at the bottom floor and are given a wrist bracelet with a number attached. You can then proceed to have a spa or go directly upstairs to the action. At 9.30pm and 11.00pm about 6 girls do a striptease dance (down to panties only) they then go amongst the crowd and do sort of lap dancing with patrons while drinking from a shot glass given to them by a waitress. If a dancer chooses you for this personal lap type of dance you will be charged Rp50K for each drink she has. One large breasted girl came to me and I had spent Rp100K before I knew what had happened! The charge ‘Tequila Striptease’ appeared on my account when paying my bill.
Anyway to answer your question about mamasans, in this establishment there were at least 6 mamasans working that night. Each mamasan had her own flock of wanita. As I said earlier each flock attracted a different price. The most expensive was a mixed group of Chinese, Vietnamese ,Taiwan? with a few white girls which I was told were Russian. These girls were charging Rp1,5M for one hour in a small room upstairs on the next level. You could pay more for a better room but the standard room was quite adequate.
I chose a local girl who was very attractive about 20 years old - Rp350K. She was a starfish however and only sparked up when the time was nearly over.
Afterwards I returned to the bar area and had a few beers with friends while admiring the various lovely flocks of wanita being paraded around the very large bar area to potential clients.
If you are interested in white girls I saw some more at the Alexis hotel in Jakarta Utara. I was again, told these girls were Russian and expensive compared to the local wanita. There is a night club on the ground floor but I was also told that there is better action upstairs.
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[QUOTE=Nicky Vicky]Spa in Jakarta
Hi Bebek,
Is that most of the Spa in Jakarta. Example: for local Indonesian girls, Chinese PRC and Others girls. Is that they have their different own mamasan to lead their own group of girls show to customers?[/QUOTE]
In some spas, yes, such as the Malioboro (described below by Bebek), and the Sumo Shiatsu in Kelapa Gading, described by me in a post just over a month ago.
In other places, such as Maribaya Spa (6th floor of Hotel Melawai) and Kartika Spa, the girls seem to be on their own.
In some places, such as Hotel Travel and Stadium 3rd floor, there are several mamasans floating around, but it's not clear if they represent only some girls or not, or if they are just there to make sure you pick a girl (as opposed to leaving right away).
[QUOTE=Bebek]I first stumbled onto Kartika Massage in 2002 when I was in Jakarta for just over a week to attend a wedding. I learnt about it and several others like it from an internet search but Kartika was the only one that I could actually find with the directions that were given at the time. I went alone about 4.00pm one afternoon...
In the end I got off the extra shot paid her the Rp130K + RP40K – no tip was even mentioned then and left a happy man.
I’ve been back to Kartika many times since then...[/QUOTE]
Thanks to Bebek for his kind words.
This post is a good reference point to a discussion from a week ago, which was about price inflation for sex in Jakarta.
It has definitely gotten more expensive to have sex in Jakarta, as prices have increased at the spas, thanks mainly to the 30% inflation rate since late 2005, and the girls' expectations have increased as well, both for the size of the tip (at a spa) and the ST/LT rate demanded by freelancers.
Kartika is a good example. In August 2004 the house fee was 200,000 rupiah, having just been increased from 175,000, and the girls would have been ecstatic if you gave them a 40,000 rupiah tip. By February 2005 the house fee was 225,000 rupiah, and by 2006 it was increased to 250,000 rupiah, and the girls will definitely expect at least a 50,000 rupiah tip. Factor in the drop in the US dollar exchange rate from 11,000 to 9,000 rupiah, and the cost of sex at Kartika has increased noticeably.
Another example is the Maribaya Spa (6th floor of Hotel Melawai). In December 2005 (when the US$ exchange rate was 10,000), the house fee was 320,000 rupiah tip included. It's now 350,000 rupiah, and when I was there a couple of weeks aggo, the girl I was with, Monica, asked for a "bonus," which I refused to pay with a smile.
However, as Bulai69 pointed out in his recent post, even taking price inflation and the falling US $ exchange rate into account, having sex in Jakarta is still much, much cheaper than in the US or the UK, and much more satisfying (at least with most girls here). Just realize that one will not find bargain-basement rates here (US $10 or less), unless one goes to a truly-dangerous neighborhood, or lucks out with a freebie or near-freebie.
If you go back 10 years, there's very little price inflation, if you're a foreigner. I was in Jakarta in October/November 1997 and the Rupiah was starting to fall, around 3000/USD. Hotels seemed expensive, by mid-western U.S. standards. My room at Atlet Century Plaza on the club floor ran 120 USD. A date at Bintang Mawar or TC was 30 USD (100,000 Rp.), and Maribaya was a little more expensive (not a lot more like today). I blew $70 on a hooker I met in JJ's, and she was pissed off because she thought I was underpaying!
Flash forward to May and June of 1998. There was rioting in the streets. Several malls were torched and went up in flames, and Suharto was deposed. The Chinese were running for their lives. The Rupiah took a nose dive to 14,000/USD. And you could find the cheapest, best quality poontang in the world in Jakarta. I was blown away by one cewek in TC, an honest to goodness "10", that I had for a little over 10 USD, including the tip. The room in the Atlet had dropped to $35. Even the Karaoke places were cheap! You could get drinks, a little plate of fruit and the company of a woman for less than what you'd spend on beer back home. The women in Blok M were suffering, as a lot of the foreigners had either disappeared or were laying low. Probably people were being a little paranoid, although I did hear that a couple of Brits were killed by taxi drivers.
Anyway, shortly after is when Indonesia started to become a really popular P4P destination for foreign sex tourists, because of the cheap pussy.
I have a theory. If you want to make money in emerging markets, both in the currency and the stock markets, follow the mongers. When they start to swarm a country, buy. You would have done well if you bought shares in Indonesia back during the period -- the market is up 5X since then and the currency is up about 50%. Then sell when the mongers leave. And if inflation stays up and the currency continues to maintain its value, that day may be just around the corner.
[QUOTE=Bebek] ..
If you are interested in white girls I saw some more at the Alexis hotel in Jakarta Utara. I was again, told these girls were Russian and expensive compared to the local wanita. There is a night club on the ground floor but I was also told that there is better action upstairs. [/QUOTE]
Excellent posting, Bebek.. thanks for sharing.
The Alexis hotel -formerly known as Grand Ancol- has, as you noted, a nite club on it's ground floor and has action upstairs - but it's a very upmarket establishment. Prices will be starting around 1 M, and up, for a girl. The top floor, where the action is, is a very tasteful designed spa - entrance fee is 120k which will get you a locker, only.
It hosts a mix of girls - amongst nice looking Indonesian, there are Thai stunners, stylish silk-dressed Chinese pretty's and as you write, some white Russian girls. .. Now, I have traveled Russia couple of times, even speak a few words, and I think Russia hosts some of the most beautiful Caucasian women in the world, but you may agree with me if I say that unfortunately these have not come to the Alexis hotel.. yes, the girls do have blond hair and blue eyes, but compared to the Asian girls there, the physique of these white girls looks like they will be doing a great job collecting potatoes behind a tractor.. 1,5 M - not for me, I'd stick to the local wanita, cheers.
[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]Another example is the Maribaya Spa (6th floor of Hotel Melawai). In December 2005 (when the US$ exchange rate was 10,000), the house fee was 320,000 rupiah tip included. It's now 350,000 rupiah, and when I was there a couple of weeks aggo, the girl I was with, Monica, asked for a "bonus," which I refused to pay with a smile. [/QUOTE]Hello there I'll pick up on this thread to say that on my first trip to Jakarta, I found the set-up at Maribaya Spa (6th floor of Hotel Melawai) quite a turn-off for the price (R350,000):the room where I took the girl was shabby so I brought her to my own room, which for R320,000 was just okay. For those prices, you get a Thai girl for much longer than one hour, in a much nicer hotel room. Having said that, this was my first foray into Indonesia and I reckon that I have much to learn and that overall I found the people and the girls lovely in general.
Greetings,
I have arrived to Jakarta a few days ago, am not really enjoying the rain, and as I asked to the concierge of my hotel (Intercontinental Mid-Plaza) about Bok M, he advised me that the way to go there is all flooded.
Is it true? Sorry, but I am here all isolated in my Ivory Tower, and I'd like to take a tour. Well, I hope tomorrow will be fine.
Some parts are under 4 meters of water supposedly Yikes.
Associated Press
Published: Saturday, February 03, 2007
The worst flooding to hit the city in five years had receded slightly Saturday in some city-centre districts, but continued to rise in outlying areas, media reports and witnesses said.
Several main roads leading to the city of 12 million people were blocked, and the rail network was crippled. Scores of callers to local radio station el-Shinta reported they were trapped in their houses.
Sunardi, from the National Coordination Agency for Disaster Relief, said that five people had died, having been either electrocuted or drowned, since Friday. More than 106,000 people had been made homeless, said Sunardi, who goes by a single name.
The homeless were staying with family or in mosques, schools and government buildings on higher ground, officials said.
Hendri, an official monitoring water levels at sluice gates on major rivers, said rains falling in the hills south of Jakarta could result in more flooding.
"We must be on guard. The weather is still our enemy here," Hendri said. "Those who live in flood prone areas, please seek refuge."
The country's meteorology department forecast more rains Saturday and over the next two weeks.
Seasonal rains cause flooding each year in Indonesia, including the capital, but Friday's were the worst since 2002, when waters washed into the presidential palace and the lobby of a five-star hotel.
© Associated Press 2007
Hello everyone,
If you are stuck because of the heavy rain or just feel lazy to go out, I can recommand a good delivery massage service that i tried a few weeks ago.
The service focus on good quality massage and all the girls, who are young are trained at Thai Massage either traditional or oily one. Either a HJ or a BJ is included at the end of the massage.
A two hour professional oil massage followed by an enthousiastic BBBJ (with CIM) was 450K Rp in the confort of your place.
Girl was thin, good looking, smiling and nice and highly skilled in massage.
The operator goes under the name of Don and can be reached on 0813 8526-1701.
Best
PS: this is not self promotion, i just want to highlight a honest and reliable service provider.
Haven't been in Jakarta since 2002. What ever happened to Diah on the 6th floor?
Thanks
I have noticed that as a result of the flooding, some of the usual talents are missing from the usual haunts.
But great tip on the 'order in' service - sounds easy and convienent!
I for one have not been to Kartika spa, am not even sure where it is, but am thinking about venturing out today to try to locate it... something about a lane way next to a swiss bakery, near the bus stop in Kota near Stadium nightclub?? I will search the forum for more definitive info but if someone has clear directions and want to PM me, please do so..
Yea BlokM last night was fairly quiet by usual standards - again due to the floods. same for Bats and CJs - altho there were still some nice girls at CJs.
Hooked up with a short chinese/indo hottie who was still hanging around at 3am a bit lost at CJs - ended up staying the night and only took a 300k taxi fare. Don't remember her name, and i think it may have been her 1st or 2nd time as she really enjoyed being pleased and got into it more and more, the more you gave to her.
Theres still talent out there if you are patient! Just treat the good ones nice! :o)
It's still open, and I went there this Sunday night - just a little bit of floods on the return.
Top Gun: nice decoration, and yes - quite a good band, although their English songs are not the best, they have a good Indonesian repertoire.
Food (US Filet Mignon) passable, drinks are good value.
There was a ratio of 3 girls per customer, so not too much but enough choice.
The service was friendly, although the waiter confonded beer and bill, but did not charge me the last beer.
I took a mini-girl called Rrrrrina (I like how they pronounce the "r" here), very charming and GF. I brought her to my hotel (Intercontinental Mid-Plaza: no security problem at all... good). Unfortunately, her undressed body shows the heritage of a baby despite her 20 years, but very hot and great attitude: she washed me in the showers from toes to hair, she is wet and like it.
Damage of 350K for ST: I guess I was too generous, but I liked her attitude as she did not count the money (I know, some of the old-timers will say that's a way too much, no wonder she was happy... ).
Hoping the rains will stop - 360,000 homeless people, this is great misfortune for them.
Hi Brudder,
nice lady indeed, very friendly and you should try her sister with no kid too
MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU
Ebowan
Hello friends,
Is there anyone know where can I find or view some photos of the Classic Spa, Sumo Spa or Malioboro Spa?
Any website or links?
Have fun in Jakarta
[QUOTE=SexWithSmile]Damage of 350K for ST: I guess I was too generous, but I liked her attitude as she did not count the money (I know, some of the old-timers will say that's a way too much, no wonder she was happy... ).
[/QUOTE]
In my opinion that price is spot on the going rate, without ripping off the girl. After all, it's only AUD 50 or USD 40. If some lousy mean bastard pays 250K they're saving themselves 10 or 15 bucks. Well, congratulations! Hey, the girl's gotta eat...
Remember that ST in Jakarta means basically as long as you like (no buzzers ringing after 50 mins) in the comfort of your room for whatever you like, including french kissing (what P4P would give you that in the West?), BBBJ, CIM etc. Bloody good value and usually an attitude that is friendly and occasionally genuinely horny.
I usually give a girl 300K, and add 50K and tell her it's for a taxi. If you give her 350K together she'll likely ask for taxi money on top of that.
"Jakarta girls they really knock me out, they leave the West behind..." as the Beatles used to sing...
[QUOTE=Menteng]I'll give you an example. I've been performing what my good friend JAD2 calls "charity sex" for some time now. The women are housewives or widows that need a good fuck :D. They don't charge anything, but as said before in this forum, sex can't be free: I have to pay the hotelroom.
It started with one lonely housewife and now others and merry widows share my phonenumber. I have to tell you though, that the majority of women that present themselves are 5/10 and most of the time, being in the age-group of MILFS, rather chuby. But, they are real amateurs and very, very GFE.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, it's known as "selingkuh" - you can say a lot with one or two Indonesian words.....
So many Indonesian women are horny fuck-bunnies with very few hangups (and ALL in this category will give blowjobs without needing to be asked, in my experience). Not always with expert skill, but a bit of encouragement and experience can turn them into cocksuckers, first class.....
And, best of all (for us at least), so many Indonesian men are useless lovers of the "stick it in and cum" variety. The result is that you can get a reputation as Cassanova just by giving a woman what she deserves - an orgasm. One sweet little 30 year old who I've fucked regularly for 2 years told me she never really knew what an orgasm was until we started to meet. She said it just "felt nice" with her ex-husband when they fucked and she thought that that was it. Then she had the real thing....
The fields out there are VERY green.
Hi all,
I know my question is out of the ISG topic. But, i really wonder what is the situation in Jakarta now? I have a business trip in wednesday and really wonder should i proceed with my business plan or cancel it.
Can anyone just kindly let me know the situation in Jakarta mainly about the flood situation?
Thank you
[QUOTE=Mangga]In my opinion that price is spot on the going rate, without ripping off the girl. After all, it's only AUD 50 or USD 40. If some lousy mean bastard pays 250K they're saving themselves 10 or 15 bucks. Well, congratulations! Hey, the girl's gotta eat.[/QUOTE]Thanks, for me this was also a fair price, as checked in other posts of this distinguished thread. I shall stick with it. I may go up to 450k for a full night of intercourse.
I do start to love this place - cheaper than Bangkok and Manila, and girls seem to have a very good attitude.
Hi,
Just to update.. My meeting in JKT has been postponed as the situation is quite bad. Certain areas are fine but it may be impossible to get around the city due to the floods and conjestion.
Will be going there in March instead. Hope you guys take care as the water situation may be contaminated.
Laksa
[QUOTE=Kiasi]Hi all,
I know my question is out of the ISG topic. But, i really wonder what is the situation in Jakarta now? I have a business trip in wednesday and really wonder should i proceed with my business plan or cancel it.
Can anyone just kindly let me know the situation in Jakarta mainly about the flood situation?
Thank you[/QUOTE]
My office told me to stay away for a while as phone and internet not working properly and depending on location, still flooded. If you're on business, talk to your other party and see what they say.
Yes, when you go to Europe and have a heart attack upon seeing the rates (250 euro for one hour!), it definitely makes JKT shine, inflation and all.
[QUOTE=Kiasi].... But, i really wonder what is the situation in Jakarta now? I have a business trip in wednesday and really wonder should i proceed with my business plan or cancel it....[/QUOTE]More rain for today, and more floods in Jakarta, the Golden Triangle and the airport road are still OK and yesterday I was able to go to Blok M.
I hope it will be OK tonight, as I have booked 2 girls from Top Gun. My Head Office wants me to get out, so I have to find excuses.
If you want my opinion: postpone the trip to next week or 2.
[QUOTE=SexWithSmile]More rain for today, and more floods in Jakarta, the Golden Triangle and the airport road are still OK and yesterday I was able to go to Blok M.
I hope it will be OK tonight, as I have booked 2 girls from Top Gun. My Head Office wants me to get out, so I have to find excuses.
If you want my opinion: postpone the trip to next week or 2.[/QUOTE]
Hey, don't come to Jakarta! It's an absolute shit-hole. Even if it wasn't flooded at the moment, you should never step near the place. The traffic is atrocious, the pollution is choking, things don't work, corruption is rampant, the weather just makes you sweat. And as for touristy things like culture, beaches, shopping, historic architecture, forget it......
Everyone agrees that Jakarta has nothing going for it as a city. Everyone....including Dewi, Sri, Anna, Diah, Dian, Ida, Ade, Liah, Alin, Ririn, Atun, Rita, Dera and all the other gorgeous women listed in my handphone.....Ah it's hard work keeping them all entertained when there's nothing to do here....
[QUOTE=Mangga]Everyone....including Dewi, Sri, Anna, Diah, Dian, Ida, Ade, Liah, Alin, Ririn, Atun, Rita, Dera and all the other gorgeous women listed in my handphone.....Ah it's hard work keeping them all entertained when there's nothing to do here....[/QUOTE]
Hmmmm, those names?! You are a real blok M tiger :D
[QUOTE=Mangga] If some lousy mean bastard pays 250K they're saving themselves 10 or 15 bucks[/QUOTE]Bro Tiger,
In socio economic terms, it will always be better to shag two girls for 250k, each, than one girl for 350k, because you spend 150k extra and income is more evenly distributed.
300k is the standard short time rate for Blok M. 300k is something cleaners, drivers, handymen, factory workers, etc. Have to work a full week for to support their families. Most mongers frequenting the blok tend to overpay and spend more money on pretty girls, just to impress. In my eyes you are king if you bang a blok M calendar girl with 3 sugardaddy's for 100k or spend 500k on a 5 minute blowjob from a toothless single mommy who has kids to feed. Both actions do require some strength of character.
Btw. Being Tommy Suharto, 'selingkuh' also stands for corrupt. But I don't know what that means.
Best
[QUOTE=Mangga]Hey, don't come to Jakarta!.... as for touristy things like culture, beaches, shopping, historic architecture, forget it....[/QUOTE]
Historic architecture? What about the old harpies at the Bali Hai bar, the famous BJ bar at Blok M?
I specifically remember seeing one working lady at Bali Hai who had to be at least 50, maybe older. Now that's historic!
***************
On a serious note, many of our favorite ladies are not working this week, as they've either been flooded out of their rooms, or can't get to work because the road from their neighorhood is still flooded.
One of my Marabaya Spa 6th floor favorites, Vicki, sent me an sms today explaining that she hasn't made it to work since last Thursday, but that she'd be at "the office" (her phrase, not mine) tomorrow and was hoping that I'd stop by for a session with her :)
Thanks all bro... i finally decide to postpone my trip to March.. after CNY...
Cheers...
[QUOTE=Traveler1234]My office told me to stay away for a while as phone and internet not working properly and depending on location, still flooded. If you're on business, talk to your other party and see what they say.[/QUOTE]
Why don't go to Jakarta?
[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]Historic architecture? What about the old harpies at the Bali Hai bar, the famous BJ bar at Blok M?
I specifically remember seeing one working lady at Bali Hai who had to be at least 50, maybe older. Now that's historic!
***************
On a serious note, many of our favorite ladies are not working this week, as they've either been flooded out of their rooms, or can't get to work because the road from their neighorhood is still flooded.
One of my Marabaya Spa 6th floor favorites, Vicki, sent me an sms today explaining that she hasn't made it to work since last Thursday, but that she'd be at "the office" (her phrase, not mine) tomorrow and was hoping that I'd stop by for a session with her :)[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Menteng]Hmmmm, those names?! You are a real blok M tiger :D[/QUOTE]Actually bro Menteng, none of them are Blok M cuties! They're mostly chickadees I've connected with through pay websites and chatsites. That's not to say that there aren't Blok M girls in my handphone :) It just shows how many girls use similar names....and just how many little fucklets there are available in Jakarta!
Long may Jakarta stay off the beaten tourist track...all the more for us!
For all you Pattaya and Patpong jockies, it's been pointed out by another bro that Bali Hai is the only ancient architecture in Jakarta. So don't come here, you'll only be disappointed!
I need to get some feedback fom the experienced guys.
From the posts its obvious that jakarta is a great place to play and a lot of you chaps are having a ball. I also get the impression that many of you are white guys.
The question I want to ask is: Does race really make a diference? Will the girls be as nice to someone from India or, say, Kenya?
I would love to hear from different people.
Hi all,
I am currently in Angeles City and considering a side trip to Bali via Jakarta. Can someone please advise the best way (and cost) of getting to Bali from the airport in Jakarta? And will it be a problem getting to Bali due to the recent floods?
Thank you!
[QUOTE=Napalm]Can someone please advise the best way (and cost) of getting to Bali from the airport in Jakarta?[/QUOTE]If the main focus is Bali, not Jakarta, then you should consider going by Air Asia from Clarke to KL, then from KL direct to Denpasar.
Yes, I was just planning on going straight through to Bali. Thanks for the info Ekspat I will check that route out at the travel agency tomorrow.
Cheers!
[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]Yes, I'm quoting one of my own posts, from early January 2007. As Yogi Berra (US baseball player) once said, "it's like deja vu all over again."
Stopped by Kartika Spa last week, this time to hook up with Sonia, a cute late-20s slender Chinese girl with those great long brown nipples.
Once upstairs, Sonia said "by the way, your friend stopped by last week and asked specifically for me.[/QUOTE]LOL! Yes; that was me again. I really took the whole RTFF guidance I see given to others here to heart and thought, why not try the tried and true fucklets other have so gratiously taste tested and reported on. Once again, thanks for the names.
Sonia was one and I forget the other. Not sure if they told you, but I chose not to baste them with my baby batter, choosing instead to save my pent up paste for Melly at Stadium. Boy did she ever get a face full! I do that often. Let myself get all worked up with one or two chicks and then keep the flood gates sealed until I make my way to another honey pot. I have also spent several hundred thousand rupes at Today Country of late on several yummy treats there.
I hit Maribaya yesterday afternoon, planning to hook up with one of my regulars; she was not there, most likely due to El Nino. I mean the flood. Instead, I tried another (forgot her name) and 45 minutes in to the dance asked her to bring in her lezzie friend. Both a little too hairy in the crotch fo me but got to watch some great girl-to-girl action; banged them both for another 30 minutes before blasting them both in the face; I was feeling extra naughty. Returned later the same evening for another go, again looking for two of my regular little fucklets, neither of whom was there. No problem; I am an equal opportunity employer so I hired another cutie. Not too much hair on this one so I dove in for a nice long session of DATY. This one noted at the start that she was really horny as there had not been much in the way of customers in the last few days. Rolled her on top of my face for some 69 with her bucking wildly on my face while she bobbed merrily along on my knob. Excellent BBBJ! Once I knew she had cum (she was shuddering like an old washing machine on spin cycle), I rolled her back on her back, pushed her legs up where I could dine on her luscious peds while pumping her oiled up cunnie. Havign already asked her permission earlier on, I pulled out and basted face, lips, teeth and tongue. What a great f*** that was. She asked me to roll over and gave a me a great massage before I showered, tipped her and ejected. All in all. A fantastic sex day!
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hi everyone,
i arrived in jakarta a couple of weeks ago, had a look in this great forum and here's my first report.
tried fortune spa last week since it's on my way to the office.
walked in , recieved a locker key, and was accompanied by a nice lady to a sort of receprion with a board full of green little numbers. said i wanted to have a massage and the lady assigned me a number. i wasn't very axited about having sort of a blind date but i finally choosed the superior room with the bath tub.
once taken to the room, after about ten minutes a "therapist" came in. tall bright skin, quite good body, but unfortunately very small titties.
anyway, she told me to get undressed, and to lay on the matrass on the floor on my tommy, and so i did, but before i showered quickly since outside it was quite hot that day.
as i laid down she asked me if i wanted to have a massage or "spesial service". i thought that was unexpectedly quite a way to get straight to the point and so i took what seemed to be a good offer.
what followed was not good, but an experience i won't forget so quickly. she started to suck my balls, lck my butt and gave me the best bbbj i can remember since a loong time. it didn't take me much to reach heaven.
after having filled her mouth she said, ok let's have sex. i asked her for e few minutes, so she took out a condom. took her in various positions until i came into her tight pussy. the she showerd me and after abour one hour and twenty min, the phone rang and the whole magic was over.
now don't be too severe with me, but her performance was worth a nice tip, since she did not ask for money so far. i gave her 150.000 rp. she told me the she went through hard time at the moment with the floading and that she had a 4 yr old boy and that she would be very gratful if i could add another 50.000, and since she asked so nicely and after such a performance i agreed.
her name is dolores, nr. 19
body: 6/10 (her boobs suffered from her pregnancy)
bbbj: 10/10
gfe: 8/10
fj: 8/10
damage: 280.000 for the room + 200.000 tip
i will try to have a look at the freelancers of blok m in the next days.
cheers,
crazyfish68
p.s.: i saw a place called "cleopatra spa for men" close to blok m (dharmawangsa), anyone of you had any experience there?
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I make no apologies for expressing my sadness at the effects of yet another tragedy to strike Indonesia.
Through my contact with work associates and with 'friends' I feel a connection to the Country and the people more than for other countries.
I hope that Jakarta is able to learn from these events and take proper steps to avoid similar situations in the future.
Given the extent of the flooded areas, I imagine that a large percentage of our obliging friends have been affected. Let's make it our mission to support them through increased 'activity'
SK
[QUOTE=Regin Harden]LOL! Yes; that was me again....Once again, thanks for the names....Sonia was one and I forget the other. Not sure if they told you, but I chose not to baste them with my baby batter..
I hit Maribaya yesterday afternoon, planning to hook up with one of my regulars; she was not there, most likely due to El Nino. I mean the flood. Instead, I tried another (forgot her name) and 45 minutes in to the dance asked her to bring in her lezzie friend...got to watch some great girl-to-girl action...[/QUOTE]
First, thanks for letting me know that it was you who had tried out Sonia, and again, thanks for treating her (and the other girl) nicely and making me look good,
No, she didn't tell me that you saved up your sperm for Melly at Stadium 3rd floor, Sonia offered no details, just that you were nice to her. And that's all I need to know anyway.
Regarding the Maribaya girls you hooked up with during the afternoon, PLEASE try to remember the names of the two girls, finding good girl-on-girl action is not that common, at least in my experience. Maybe you could ask them if you see them during your next visit.
BTW, there are two distinct shifts at Maribaya, with the shift change around 5 p.m. That explains why your afternoon girls weren't there during the evening when you returned. However, if you do have a particular favorite and want to see her when it's not her shift time, it's easy enough to have the girl stay late (or arrive early) to have a session with you. I only monger during the day, but one of my Maribaya favorites works the evening shift, and on a couple of occasions I've arranged to have her come in at 1 p.m. for a session with me; she'll then return home for a nap before coming to work at 5 p.m.
*****
Hey, this is my 1,000th post (counting my 700+ posts on USA SG)! I think I'll go to Maribaya this afternoon to celebrate :)
I've been out of this game for quite sometimes,
in my heyday, classic & sumo was the best spa...but then I heard of Alexis, Malioboro
and now I heard there is this new place Sun City (near Jayakarta Hotel) which is bigger, better & nastier (in a good way)
Perhaps I should step down from hut and once again taste the forbidden fruits once again ;)
but before that happen, anybody have been to malioboro & this Sun City?
I hate to go to places that doesnt have review here, it's like blind date...
cheers!
[quote=peter patros]i need to get some feedback fom the experienced guys.
from the posts its obvious that jakarta is a great place to play and a lot of you chaps are having a ball. i also get the impression that many of you are white guys.
the question i want to ask is: does race really make a diference? will the girls be as nice to someone from india or, say, kenya?
i would love to hear from different people.[/quote]
i have two friends from jkt, one is indian (with aussie accent) and the other is black. neither one has had any trouble whatsoever. in fact, the black one could often be seen chomping a cigar with one girl draped over each arm.
i can imagine there are some girls that will turn you away, but in the end, it's all about the money.
[QUOTE=Regin Harden]LOL! Yes; that was me again. I really took the whole RTFF guidance I see given to others here to heart and thought, why not try the tried and true fucklets other have so gratiously taste tested and reported on. Once again, thanks for the names.
Sonia was one and I forget the other. Not sure if they told you, but I chose not to baste them with my baby batter, choosing instead to save my pent up paste for Melly at Stadium. Boy did she ever get a face full! I do that often. Let myself get all worked up with one or two chicks and then keep the flood gates sealed until I make my way to another honey pot. I have also spent several hundred thousand rupes at Today Country of late on several yummy treats there.
I hit Maribaya yesterday afternoon, planning to hook up with one of my regulars; she was not there, most likely due to El Nino. I mean the flood. Instead, I tried another (forgot her name) and 45 minutes in to the dance asked her to bring in her lezzie friend. Both a little too hairy in the crotch fo me but got to watch some great girl-to-girl action; banged them both for another 30 minutes before blasting them both in the face; I was feeling extra naughty. Returned later the same evening for another go, again looking for two of my regular little fucklets, neither of whom was there. No problem; I am an equal opportunity employer so I hired another cutie. Not too much hair on this one so I dove in for a nice long session of DATY. This one noted at the start that she was really horny as there had not been much in the way of customers in the last few days. Rolled her on top of my face for some 69 with her bucking wildly on my face while she bobbed merrily along on my knob. Excellent BBBJ! Once I knew she had cum (she was shuddering like an old washing machine on spin cycle), I rolled her back on her back, pushed her legs up where I could dine on her luscious peds while pumping her oiled up cunnie. Havign already asked her permission earlier on, I pulled out and basted face, lips, teeth and tongue. What a great f*** that was. She asked me to roll over and gave a me a great massage before I showered, tipped her and ejected. All in all. A fantastic sex day!
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While I enjoyed this post in context, it seems an odd choice for a report of distinction. I always assumed that designation was intended to point out posts that are specifically informative with respect to logistics. Sort of a RTFF starting point.
Perhaps not.
On my recent short visit, given that I had no work to do as a result of the floods, I decided to fill in time between "engagements" with some in depth research into in-room massage at my usual hotel. This was carried out at great personal inconvenience (and cost, but not to me) in the interest of forum readers.
It is a subject which is raised now and again and I don't propose to re-visit the issued raised, particularly about "value for money"; merely present the "statistics".
Each time I ordered the massage the girl arrived promptly - which was good as on each occassion I had a girl due to arrive within 2 hours. I arranged it this way deliberately so that I would not be tempted to go through to "completion".
Over 3 days I had 4 massages with 4 different girls, all of whom were similar in terms of age and appearance - around 30 and average shape and appearance.
There were big differences however regarding what was "on offer". It's very clear that you can tell within the first few minutes what will be the eventual outcome. If they "accidentally" touch bollocks in the first few minutes your "in"; if they don't your not. My "research" revealed a 50% chance ie 2 did, 2 didn't.
I encouraged the two who "wouldn't" but there was no way they would change their minds, the other two however, once I made it clear that I enjoyed their "touch" spent the last 30 minutes at least just playing with my bollocks and surrounding area (but not my dick). Within the last 5 minutes they each asked me if I wanted "special massage" but I said no because my girlfriend was coming. I am slightly embarrassed to admit that one of them peruaded me: I just could not stop her, even though my "girlfriend" was perhaps only minutes away! For once, my girl arrived on time and she literally passed the massage girl in the corridor between my room and the lift!
The interesting point is price: the girl who spent 30 minutes just playing with and massaging my bollocks and backside didn't expect anything at all as in her view she hadn't actually provided "special massage". The girl who did provide "speacial massage" causing me to dispose of what I had planned to give my "girlfriend", expected 1 juta! She eventually took 350k. (I gave the other girl a 50k tip)
If anyone is interested in the names of the girls who provided the "special massage" please PM me but only if you are a well known contributor please.
Interesting topic B69. In my experience, the hotel girls never approach the bollocks (not sure what that means though, but I'm guessing, lol) First time in the Intercon spa, she asked about special massage. I complied for 500k rupes not knowing what the hell she had in mind. Lesson learned.
Next time, different girl asked and I passed. They never asked again. Must be a file somewhere.
The service I now use (I posted the number a year or so ago) is no nonsense, no approach to the bollocks whatsoever.
JAD recommended this place, so I went and got a 2 hour massage. I didn't really want any extras, as I was saving up for activity later in the week.
It's a decent massage place with 20-30 ladies working. You have the choice of 3 diffferent rooms, Standard, VIP and VIP Deluxe, I think. I chose the mid level, which gets you a private room, with a curtain. I think you get a TV with the highest level.
I chose Susan, a 20 something nice looking lady. Massage for 2 hours traditional was 155k. 140k I think for standard room.
She gave a nice deep massage, and with her frequent brushing up against my balls, I knew she was going to offer extras. Being that I'm weak, which a girl has my dick in her hand, I agreed to a HJ. She wanted 200k, but I paid 100k. For 200k, I would go where I got the full boat! She wouldn't take her top off, or let me grope her much. That wasn't great, but she did get a good quality HJ. They have decent shower facilities, and I'd go back again, but probably just for a massage.
This place is near Blok M, and in a Japanese themed center, with a lot of other massage and Reflexi places in it. They have a Japanese supermarket, plus a 21 movie theater, Chinese restaurant and so forth.
The address is:
JL Wijaya II, Kebayoran Baru. Phone 720-2975.
[QUOTE=Menteng]Well guys, I think you all should thank me for initiating Cici to the joys of anal sex. It took me three sessions before I finally could have a full penetration and come inside her.
After that, every time we meet, we finished our sessions with anal.
BTW, I also introduced her to sextoys. She enjoyed it that much (so did I by looking at her while she plays with herself) that I gave her a vibrator as a present.[/QUOTE]Hi Menteng,
I'm interested in using Cici's service. Where and when can I find her?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Master Diver II]I have to humbly apologise to the members I was supposed to meet with at D's Place and JAD too. I'm sorry guys. To top it all off, I forgot to charge my local mobile and all the numbers are stored in the phone so when it ran out, I had no way to contact you.
As an aside, JAD has very wide and in-depth knowledge of Jakarta but he really needs to know what you are looking for. I believe he can cater for you as long as you are specific enough. It's good to get his opinion and pick his brains. Incidentally JAD, CJs wasn't such a bust for me in the end. The girls I met there were the ones Menteng met me with in Hard Rock and I think he would agree that they are more than worth looking at - and also the reason I missed meeting you guys.
I now know how B69 felt - but at a much lower budget. I offered (yeah I know stupid me!) to take her shopping on the last day and ended up signing for a handbag, a couple of blouses and some cosmetics - around Rps2,000,000 - which isn't too bad for 3 glorious nights. She isn't desperate - I dont think - as she has her own house (I've been there), two maids, car (Honda) and driver. She made me feel on top of the world and even though I'm back in Malaysia, I still feel the effects.
I was not entirely driven out of my senses enough not to take advantage of another small opportunity that came my way. I must thank my fellow member from Kuala Lumpur (Daijek) for passing me a contact of a Jakarta college student. We had lunch and she followed me back to my hotel. She is new at this and was uncertain of what to do - so of course some guidance was forthcoming. In the end she was game for it all and even did anal - which she enjoyed tremendously. She is also willing to introduce her college friends (I missed out on an Ancol trip with them yesterday as I had to catch my flight back) but I need to check into that further (willingly, very willingly). I passed her Rps300,000, which she didn't even check until later when I received a grateful sms. My reasoning was that her taxi was going to cost her around Rps85,000 so I was really giving her Rps215,000 - which really isn't too bad. Hell, it was worth it. All in all an enjoyable trip and I'm thinking how I'm going to manage with more work the next trip.
MD II[/QUOTE]Hi MD II,
Would you mind giving me the hp number of the college student?
I really appreciate it.
Thanks
Sorry dont mean to hurt or insult anyone if I file a report about Emporivm, which is only slightly upmarket than Maribaya, at least in terms of price, but thought readers here should have the benefit of information about this largely unexplored place (at least by mongers here).
It's located in Pecenongan area, and it advertises itself as a spa. It's actually an entertainment place, that has a spa, karaoke room and massage. The massage and sauna is on the first floor. I hv not ventured to the upper floors yet.
The place is actually quite neat and the selection of girls enough for all kinds of taste and budgets. From the Rp 500k local, to 800k local to the 1,500K chinese (which you can have for half price at half the time ie 45 minutes).
I opted for a cute tiny girl named Nadia from among the 10 or so 500k girls, whom I chose after the mamy assured me that she's hot in bed. I guess the difference in the rates for locals is somehow determined by whether one is barang baru or barang lama. And barang lama comes with more experience while barang baru brings freshness. It's up to you.
There was no disappointment at all in my choice. You heard the expression beli kucing dalam karung (buying cat ina guni sack), from time to time, you're bound to get disappointment, but Nadia is not one of them.
We went to this tidy room, and quite brightly lit I may say. It Has a bath cube and a television. And an inscripttion "dilarang berbuat a-susila" (no a-moral behavior here) on the door. Dont know what it was for because obviously one's moral standard is another's cup of tea and livelihood or hobby.
Anyway settled in the room, and Nadia immediately started undress me, somewhat apologetically when she realized she had not unbottoned the sleeves yet. She's small and slim, and I had chosen her for those very reason.
She proceeded to shower me while I simply could not get my hands off her. She has the most beautiful eyes I have seen (and I mean that sincerely, she also has the nicest pair of tits, small but firm).
The low mattress in the room comes with this metal thing above, I guess designed for massage. So I stood up there as she worked with her mouth, from my mouth and warked downwards to my chess and my legs and started bj. It was probably one of the longest bjs I had, she seemed to enjoying just as much so I did not interrupt her and just stood there and enjoyed the moment. Now I know what heaven must be like.
She struggled to put the condom (Asian size I guess) around my dick, but finally made it. We started with her on top, she moaned and moaned like there is no tomorrow. then we switched to missionaries, and doggy, back to misssionary for the grand finale. Took out the condom and came all over her stomach. And we lay exhausted for a few minutes before showered together.
The damage was 500k but gave her 100k in tip, and she deserved every cent of it. Nadia is from Subang, close to Indramayu which is the den of some of the best pros in the country.
I kind of get tired of Maribaya and thought this is a good alternative. Slightly pricier but only slightly, and the girls are newer, even among the 500k ones. Another girl I had on a previous visit was Christine, a mixed of Manado and Batak.
Didnt have the courage to photograph them. but perhaps next time once we got to know better, they are more receptive to the idea. who knows. stay tuned guys.
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[QUOTE=Jaimito Cartero]The address is:
JL Wijaya II, Kebayoran Baru. Phone 720-2975.[/QUOTE]
The complex is referred to as Gran (yes, Gran!) Wijaya. Any taxi-driver will be able to find it.
There are lots of massage places in that center. In my opinion, Sari Mustika has the worst facilities of any of them. However, it is cheap and guaranteed that you'll at least get wanked off if you want.
[QUOTE=Brandon88]Interesting topic B69. In my experience, the hotel girls never approach the bollocks (not sure what that means though, but I'm guessing, lol) First time in the Intercon spa, she asked about special massage. I complied for 500k rupes not knowing what the hell she had in mind. Lesson learned.
Next time, different girl asked and I passed. They never asked again. Must be a file somewhere.
The service I now use (I posted the number a year or so ago) is no nonsense, no approach to the bollocks whatsoever.[/QUOTE]My experience is very limited, but i know that at the gran melia they dont approach the bollocks either !
hi all. i've been a long time lurker and so this is my first post hehe.
yesterday i tried the in-call service recommended by azerty and found it to be excellent. i gave a call to don and although he said that they were fully booked that day, he graciously let me know that if there was any cancellation, he would inform me asap. indeed a couple of hours later, he called me back and said that there was an availability at 6:00 pm so being already juiced up, i quickly agreed to the time and his price. after the call, i thought the price was a bit steep at 500,000 rupiahs but what the heck.
the time came and my hotel doorbell sounded. peeked through the little hole in the door and saw a guy by himself. anyway i opened it and this maybe 30ish asian guy introduced himself to me as don. then this very slim but very pretty young lady showed up and he introduced her as jenny. she was a bit chinese looking but very smartly yet stunningly dressed. yummm. i let them both in and don says he just wants to collect the moolah and then he'll leave the girl with me for 2 hours so i quickly went to get the dough and gave it to him. he didn't bother to count it and just said "have a great massage sir" with a sorta knowing smile. i thanked him and closed the door. jenny excused herself and said she needed to change in the bathroom. i said okay and could feel hot pulsing way down below. :d
after a few minutes, this pretty young lass came out and i was stunned as she wore a very thin negligee which was almost transparent. unfortunately, i could also see that she was still wearing underwear. she asked me to undress and she put a towel on my bed then she asked me to lay face down. she could probably see that i already had a hard-on but she didn't say anything.
then she proceeded with some pressure massage throughout my body asking if it was strong enough for me. ouch. some parts were too strong.
then she started to use some scented oil and from there i was in heaven. it was one of the best massages i've had in a long while. jenny made sure she stroked every part of my body specially my buttocks and once in a while my balls. i was screaming in the inside as i could feel myself get harder and harder and was ready to explode.
after about an hour, she used a warm wet towel to wipe the oil from my backside and then she asked me to turn over and she giggled as i think she saw my pulsating hardness standing tall and proud. :d
she then started to do my legs but i was tooooo heated up i said forget the legs and just give me a hand job and i'll be happy. she laughed and then put her small hands round my engorged member then suddenly surprised me as she went down and gave me an incredible bbbj!!!!! she started slow then did everything i could ever imagine could be done with her mouth. sucking my balls and going deep throat all the way and using her tongue expertly. in the meantime, i was fondling her firm maybe size 34 breast and could hear her moan a bit after which couldn't stand it any longer and tried to pull her head up while i said i was cumming. she didn't want to let go and boy did i cum and cum and cum all in her mouth. she continued till i couldn't stand it any longer and swallowed it all. i was spent and she looked up at me smiling sweetly. then she went to the bathroom and got cleaned up.
i just lay in bed for awhile and thought that this was the best 500,000 rupiah spent in a long while. when she came out, she was dressed in her casual wear again and excused herself to leave. i got up, told her to wait a minute then gave her a 100k tip. she thanked me and i let her out the door.
that night i probably had the sweetest smile while i slept. 700k well spent. will i do it again. you betcha and i think i'll probably do more next time. thanks for the tip azerty.
dan
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I was due to fly out last Tuesday at 23.00 but woke up at 03.00 that day by extremely heavy rain so in a panic I packed my bags, had a final quick fuck and sent my "girlfriend" home and headed off to the airport, arriving there at 05.00: 18 hours early. I could not afford to get stuck longer in JKT.
I checked in to the Transit hotel (very luckyly they had a room) and asked for a wake up call at 11.00 having sms'd a very good contact of mine who lives near the airport and asked her to come at 13.00.
I got my wake up call at 11.00 and the guy who phoned asked me if I wanted a massage with a pretty young girl! This is a first in my many years experience! I had planned to have breakfast before my friend arrived but obviously changed priorities. The guy quoted 170k for one hour.
The girl turned up at once and was quite pretty, young (20) but rather fat for my taste. It was clear in the first 5 minutes that this would be no "ordinary" massage. After some encouragement she provided a really excellent massage including passionate kissing, stripping off and getting very excited and wet which went on for one hour fifty minutes - almost double the paid-for time. I had said I didn't want "special massage" because my girlfriend was coming - and I did manage to resist but it really was hellish difficult to do so. I told her I might contact her later after my girlfriend had gone and enquired about costs. She quoted 1 juta as the "usual" price which would include "everything" including BBBJ and CIM. The way the discussion went I am pretty confident this could be had for 500k. She was happy with a 50k tip having not asked for anything.
My "girlfriend" arrived at the hotel no more than 5 minutes after the girl left my room so I was all ready for a really good session with her! After that and late lunch she left and I had 8 hours left. I'll report on that next.
[QUOTE=Daniel Steele]Hi all. I've been a long time lurker and so this is my first post hehe....
I just lay in bed for awhile and thought that this was the best 500,000 rupiah spent in a long while. When she came out, she was dressed in her casual wear again and excused herself to leave. I got up, told her to wait a minute then gave her a 100k tip. She thanked me and I let her out the door.
That night I probably had the sweetest smile while I slept. 700k well spent...[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the report - lots of info for a first-timer.
But 500K + 100K = 700K?? Either you tipped her 200,000 rupiah (way too much, although chances are she received little if any of the 500,000 rupiah you gave to Don) or you mis-typed the total.
[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]Thanks for the report - lots of info for a first-timer.
But 500K + 100K = 700K?? Either you tipped her 200,000 rupiah (way too much, although chances are she received little if any of the 500,000 rupiah you gave to Don) or you mis-typed the total.[/QUOTE]Hey Mighty Spearsman,
Don't be too hard with Daniel, it's his first report, he'd done great and I am really happy for him that the girl f*cked his brain out of him (hehehehe).
[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]Thanks for the report - lots of info for a first-timer.
But 500K + 100K = 700K?? Either you tipped her 200,000 rupiah (way too much, although chances are she received little if any of the 500,000 rupiah you gave to Don) or you mis-typed the total.[/QUOTE]Yup I mis-typed the total and didn't know how to edit it. Sorry about that mate. It should really be 600k. Anyway like I mentioned, long-time lurker so I have an idea what info to give out. Actually, there's more but just forgot the details in my blissfulness. :P
[QUOTE=Over Flow]Hi Menteng,
I'm interested in using Cici's service. Where and when can I find her?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Read the Forum, especially the postings that gave me reason to give that reaction.
[QUOTE=Bulai69]....... having sms'd a very good contact of mine who lives near the airport ........[/QUOTE]
Hi,
Ever since I met her briefly, I wanted to know her better. But, I lost her phonenumber, and A's number seemed to be blocked. Can you tell me her number in a PM?
Can you also tell the room-rate at that transit hotel?
Crazyfish68,
Care to share if #19 was day shift or night shift? I've only made the night shift and have had mixed results. Generally a wank off is guaranteed but a BBBJ or FS is hit or miss.
[QUOTE=Crazyfish68]Now don't be too severe with me,I gave her 150.000 Rp. She told me the she went through hard time at the moment with the floading and that she had a 4 yr old boy and that she would be very gratful if I could add another 50.000, and since she asked so nicely and after such a performance I agreed.[/QUOTE]
In my opinion, 200k is actually too small a tip for full sex at Fortune. You must have found a real sweetheart. Normally the girl would let you have an earfull if you only gave her 200k after she just blew and screwed you at fortune. 250k is probably fair, even 300k is not too much to give for a tip for full sex there. At least not for the attractive girls. I've never tried with the homely girls there, so I have no idea what their rate would be.
What are you other guys giving these girls at Fortune or other massage places with similar facilities?
[quote=mrbill1963]crazyfish68,
care to share if #19 was day shift or night shift? i've only made the night shift and have had mixed results. generally a wank off is guaranteed but a bbbj or fs is hit or miss.[/quote]in the mean time been at fortune spa another 2 times, always in the afternoon (2 or 4'oclock), #19 was not there, furthermore i agree that i was pretty lucky. ok let's call it beginner's luck, since one of the further two "therapists", chinese looking, perfect body, if i remember well #66 asked me 1 milion for sex. of course i denied since she seemed not willing to negotiate. the other time i was "assigned" #87, the girl was just ok and agreed on 300k for a bbj which ended to be quite nice but nothing any like what i experienced the first time.
[QUOTE=Smoothy]In my opinion, 200k is actually too small a tip for full sex at Fortune. You must have found a real sweetheart. Normally the girl would let you have an earfull if you only gave her 200k after she just blew and screwed you at fortune....
What are you other guys giving these girls at Fortune or other massage places with similar facilities?[/QUOTE]
You're right, the going rate for a tip at Fortune Spa for the works (FS, BBBJ, lots of tongue action, etc.) after having received a legitimate massage from the same attractive girl seems to be 300,000 rupiah these days, maybe 250,000 depending on the girl.
In my experience, the girl will want 500,000 rupiah but will quickly drop to 300,000, however negotiating a reduction below that will be very difficult (though theoretically possible). That's my one complaint about Fortune Spa - if one wants a good massage and then the full package of extras, the total cost will be 280,000 rupiah for the room plus the tip - not cheap! That's why I only go there when I desperately need a good massage; if it were just sex that I wanted, it's cheaper to go to Maribaya, Kartika or Berlian.
Following on my last story - I found myself at a "loose end" at around 4pm with an empty room up to 22.00 having had a good "session" around midday.
My plan was to try and pick up a girl in the airport so I set about that challenge. Over the next hour or so I collected six hp numbers of girls working in shops/kiosks but who did not finish work until 10pm! I also met 2 excellent girls who were travelling and didn't have time to come back to my room - at least one of them would have done so. So by around 5.30 I invoked "plan B" which was to get another in-room massage.
I spoke to the guy on reception who had a girl there within seconds of my arriving back at my room. As I waited at reception I heard him offering a girl to a guy who was checking-in.
My girl arrived and as before she was young (21), decent body (fat by my standards but average by most other peoples!) and quite pretty. She began the massage and within a couple of minutes she was kissing and playing with me. She was absolutely excellent! Following further encouragement she was sucking my cock and we spent the next hour or so in a really excellent session finishing up with a great shag!
I have concluded that this hotel is mere front for sex, not unlike the "sixth floor". After my girl had gone I spoke to a couple of other massage girls walking back to reception and asked them about "terms and conditions" - if you check in at the Transit Hotel you can be 100% sure of sex if you order in-room massage. Based on my experience it's bloody good as well!
My girl wanted 1 juta ("harga biasanya") but settled for 500k. As before the massage cost was 160k but I wasn't paying that. In terms of performance I would say she was in the top 10%.
The room charge is 50k per hour, somewhat cheaper if you book a longer block of time.
There is however a "spa" at the extreme right hand end (as you enter the terminal) which charges 160k for massage where I suspect the same girls work.
Getting back to my massage girl, I also got her hp number and she said she would be happy to meet me at any other hotel in her own time (but not the Transit Hotel obviously). If anyone I know WELL wants her number and a photo showing her face I can send that by email. In the meantime I've attached a couple of anonymous photos. I should add that she provided an excellent GFE and declared that she was only giving me her number because she liked me so much. That being the case, it's probably not worth anyone else calling her, however, she might just be flexible on that.
That looks like a good massage. I'm not likely to ever use that transit hotel in between flights, but it's nice to know there are services there at the aiport if I can't get a taxi home due to rain and decide to wait it out in leisure.
I would say that Bulai's report is one of distinction. Who would have thought the airport hotel held so much possibility.
I've just had news that Maribaya was raided again this night. Can someone confirm this?
Let me help MD II answer!
She's no longer in the market per se coz too many calls from foriegners and she's afraid her parents will find out! What a big waste!
KL Guy
[QUOTE=Over Flow]Hi MD II,
Would you mind giving me the hp number of the college student?
I really appreciate it.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Smoothy]In my opinion, 200k is actually too small a tip for full sex at Fortune. You must have found a real sweetheart. Normally the girl would let you have an earfull if you only gave her 200k after she just blew and screwed you at fortune. 250k is probably fair, even 300k is not too much to give for a tip for full sex there. At least not for the attractive girls. I've never tried with the homely girls there, so I have no idea what their rate would be.
What are you other guys giving these girls at Fortune or other massage places with similar facilities?[/QUOTE]
Remind me never to go to a place like Fortune! 300K is close to my maximum for 2 hours or more at my place for fucking, sucking and a photo session. And this includes girls who'll give you the best possible experience....
Well, I had another fruitful trip to Jakarta, even though the weather was a bit, er, interesting.
JAD and Menteng showed me a lot of new places, and were always helpful with advice. We took a couple of sidetrips to Bandung and Bogor that were a lot of fun, though it seems that Menteng stole my pretty massage lady in Bandung, and stuck me with the ugly one. :) Nevermind that I was on massage list before him. I got even with him by getting into biz class going to Singapore while he had to sit one row back. Lion Air has some cute flight attendants!
While I didn't have any great mongering experiences in Bandung or Bogor, there are a lot of good opportunities outside of Jakarta. JAD really knows all the places in Jakarta to go to, if you've never been to Jakarta, I really recommend taking his tour.
Arrived Jakarta on Wednesday, excited to check out a new place.
Once checked in at Le Meridien, connected to the in-room broadband and logged into ISG. To my great surprise found that the Le Meridien bar was one of the hotspots so decided to stay there for the first of 2 nights.
Bar name is too difficult for me to remmber, but it has been mentioned here many times - somthing like Teru Mengu or something.
Anyway, once in at 22.30 the place was not very full. A Canadien band was rocking hard and giving a good atmosphere though. Strange place, only a big stage in the middle for the band, with a bar around, and no real place to dance. Asked one of the staff it they expected a full house, and he said no...but there would be a fashion show at midnite. That probably meant more regular girls I figured so not sure how it would turn out.
At midnight the crowd was at its biggest, I think about half of the girls were working, and most were less than 7-8's in looks. But I did see one or two real stunners - but they were taken before I noticed them...so I remained quite calm in my chair. Had eyed a cute girl earlier on, and exchanged some looks with her, but she was also with a guy, so did not want to interfere... She was with there with another girl too, and soon the other girl is next to me saying that her friend likes me, but she is "in the partner business - ok?" and asks for my phone number. Partner business sounded like the only business to me, and I gave the number, curious to see what would happen.
The fashion show was dull, and as the nite faded I figured that I would not get laid this night. There were girls available, but I am picky - so none that tempted. Suddenly I see that the girl I had been looking at was free though and at the same time I receive a message from her, so I head over to say hi. She said she liked me, I said I liked her. We talk a bit, dance a bit, then it is soon closing time so I say I am heading to my room. She and her friend leaves with me. No offers yet though, so I am a bit puzzled... In the lobby I ask straight out if she would like to come to my room, and now I am slightly surprised that they both agree to come, and still no mention of any prize. In the room I am not quite sure what to do, so offer some drinks, they only take water - then after some chit chat, her friend wants to go home - any my girl asks if it is ok if we take her home, and then we can come back to my room. I am still very puzzled, but now genuinly curious to see what will happen so I agree. 10 minutes in cab each way and we are back at the room.
My girl tells about her job, how she had been out with clients tonight (which I still thought of as some other kind of clients:)) that she has a boyfriend and this is the first time she does this, so she doesn't really know what to do. I take a shower and jump to bed, she is trotting back and forth on the floor not knowing what to do - so I insist she showers and comes to bed.
Turns out she is just a "normal" girl! And from a pretty rich family it seems, cause next day when I went to some meetings, she stayed in the room, called in sick at her work and had her driver deliver clothes from home! :D During the night she explains that she was unsure about me, but since I did not talk to any "bad girls" she figured I was ok - I had even rejected a couple that had approached me - little did she know that I was just being picky :D Sorry I have wasted your time guys, but I had to share this with someone :) She stays with me for the next nite too and even insists on paying for some of the stuff we do together.
I think I luuv Jakarta! :)
Well - the bastard I am, I still look forward to do some more hunting in Jakarta next time though. FFF - find, fuck and forget. But this one will be good to have as backup.
One thing about the bar though - the working girls were not pushy, so if you see one you like you definitely should make the move yourself. Not like Singapore or KL or Hong Kong, where the girls more or less swarm you if you as much as look at them.
Liondale, Tigah Palu is now offlimits for further hunting. If she happens to be in there unbeknown to you, she WILL spot you in action, and that will be the end of that.
These girls have uncanny radar.
[QUOTE=XXL]I've just had news that Maribaya was raided again this night. Can someone confirm this?[/QUOTE]
Don't know if Maribaya was raided on Thursday evening, but I do know that it was open for business as usual this afternoon (Friday). I stopped by for a good session with Vicki, followed by a quick chat with Monique in the bar, and everything seemed normal. There were only about 15 girls on duty, but that could have been because it was raining.
Did see two distinguished-looking white bules with grey hair (in their 50's?) in the bar, each (separately) having a drink with one of the girls working there - would either of them have been ISG members?
It's exactly one year ago this month that the Maribaya Spa 6th Floor was busted during the evening shift and shut down for a few weeks - perhaps the police came back for an anniversary visit? I've just sent an sms to Vicki (day shift) and one girl who works there during the evening shift, asking them of any possible raid - if they reply with anything of interest, I'll post it here.
[QUOTE=XXL]I've just had news that Maribaya was raided again this night. Can someone confirm this?[/QUOTE]I sms'ed my regular and she confirmed that the place was raided Thursday night. She indicated the place is still open but some of the girls might be staying away. The place has never recovered from the previous raids from last year when it was closed for several weeks. Someone must not be paying the right people.
[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]I've just sent an sms to Vicki (day shift) and one girl who works there during the evening shift, asking them of any possible raid - if they reply with anything of interest, I'll post it here.[/QUOTE]
Right right! I'm very keen to know the truth about this because my long-time "regular girl" in JKT called me to complain about being busted. I now suspect her of lying to try and induce me to send her money as a compensation for lost business or bribes paid to the cops.
If she lied to me, I know I must forget about her. These girls can never be trusted.
Keep me posted!
[QUOTE=Brandon88]Liondale, Tigah Palu ...[/QUOTE]
.. would have been a great name if the girls were to be that pushy there, but they rarely are, as Liondale so nicely describes... - congrats on scoring such a nice "good" girl, cheers.
[QUOTE=Brandon88]Liondale, Tigah Palu is now offlimits for further hunting. If she happens to be in there unbeknown to you, she WILL spot you in action, and that will be the end of that.
These girls have uncanny radar.[/QUOTE]
Probably a good advice Brandon, think it will inevitably be a problem though. The next day we stayed in, but her friend called and invited us to CJ's - so seems they are frequenting all the good hunting grounds. My conclusion is that I will not have one girl standing between me and a million other girls :)
JC,
It was a pleasure meeting you again. Menteng and me enjoyed your company. I am glad that all in all you had a pleasant stay despite the flood.
I think you should consult your latest fantasy with MD. He is a flight attendant specialist.
Stay in touch, mate!
JAKARTA AFTER DARK
[QUOTE=Jkt After Dark 2]JC,
It was a pleasure meeting you again. Menteng and me enjoyed your company. I am glad that all in all you had a pleasant stay despite the flood.
I think you should consult your latest fantasy with MD. He is a flight attendant specialist.
[/QUOTE]
Does she have a head scarf? :)
[QUOTE=XXL]Right right! I'm very keen to know the truth about this because my long-time "regular girl" in JKT called me to complain about being busted. I now suspect her of lying to try and induce me to send her money as a compensation for lost business or bribes paid to the cops.
If she lied to me, I know I must forget about her. These girls can never be trusted. Keep me posted![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mrbill1963]I sms'ed my regular and she confirmed that the place was raided Thursday night. She indicated the place is still open but some of the girls might be staying away. The place has never recovered from the previous raids from last year when it was closed for several weeks. Someone must not be paying the right people.[/QUOTE]
Looks like both sides may be right.
I received an sms from Vicki of the day shift (who I had had my Friday afternoon session with) and she said everything was fine.
But I have yet to hear from the girl who works on the evening shift, so it's highly possible that the evening shift was busted but that the place remains open. When the place was raided last year, the place was shut down for a few weeks, but nothing happened to the day shift girls other than a forced vacation.
The lack of making the proper payoffs is certainly a possibility. But according to a male bule source of mine (who lives in Jakarta but to the best of my knowledge is not a member of this board), last year's bust resulted from one of the working girls being interviewed on TV and disclosing where she worked; the publicity more-or-less forced the authorities to move in on the place.
Let's hope that the Maribaya bust is not a harbinger of things to come, since I hope to be mongering again during the next few days!
[QUOTE=Jaimito Cartero]Does she have a head scarf? :)[/QUOTE]
Sounds as if you have the same fantasy as me and at least one other distinguished senior member of this board!
[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]Sounds as if you have the same fantasy as me and at least one other distinguished senior member of this board![/QUOTE]
Oops, did I tell you? :D
For me, those jilbabs are nothing but a turnoff.
I wouldn't mind the girls wearing a batgirl mask though or even the entire batgirl outfit then stripping it off, but leaving the mask on. Or maybe a Lion air stewardess outfit that I rip off of them. Those Lion air stewardesses are hot. The possibilities are endless.
Well, I try not to discriminate, and have seen some very nice head scarf girls. In fact, one time in Bangkok, I saw this arab lady in a full setup with veil and everything, and I could just see her eyes. Yummmm. I'm willing to try almost anything once. :)
[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]Sounds as if you have the same fantasy as me and at least one other distinguished senior member of this board![/QUOTE]
Go the full nine yards and line her up with the kiblat and do her in the ass to the sweet strains of the mezzuin calling the faithful to prayer. Advanced perverts only!
Hey Everybody,
Can anyone give me some info on Solo. I will be in Jakarta for 3 days attending the Furnicraft show. Staying at the Borobudur Hotel.
Then I will be in Solo staying at the Lor-in HOtel for 6 days. Then back to the Sheraton at the Jkt airport.
Any information about hot girls, and hotels would be greatly appreaciated. This is my first trip.
Thanks all,
BP
[QUOTE=Bigpimpin]Hey Everybody,
Can anyone give me some info on Solo. I will be in Jakarta for 3 days attending the Furnicraft show. Staying at the Borobudur Hotel.
Then I will be in Solo staying at the Lor-in HOtel for 6 days. Then back to the Sheraton at the Jkt airport.
Any information about hot girls, and hotels would be greatly appreaciated. This is my first trip.
Thanks all,
BP[/QUOTE]
Solo is pretty dead, however there are usually a couple of girls hanging around the lobby area and the downstairs bar at the Lor-in Hotel in the evenings. But you have to be VERY discreet here, Solo is a hotbed of Muslim fundamentalism, nothing like Jakarta.
The massage place at the Lor-in Hotel will send girls to your room for an in-room massage. The girl who came to my room was only about 22 and quite pretty. Interestingly, she told me point-blank that she would never provide any extras for cash, as she's a "good girl," but that she would be happy to provide extras for a non-cash gift such as Chanel No. 5 perfume. So bring some perfume with you!
There's a karaoke place about 1 1/2 kms closer to town on the same road as the Lor-in Hotel, if you're into that sort of thing. I couldn't find any MPs on my own, maybe someone can point you in the right direction.
I do have one phone number, for a girl who's an amateur with a regular day-time job, but my problem is that you only have two posts, so I don't want to risk compromising her. Sorry!
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In Jakarta, the Borobodur Hotel is fairly close to the numerous places in Kota, the northern part of town, as well as the Atrium Mall and Plaza Indonesia, two good places for mall-hunting, and you're within 15 minutes (non-rush hour) of the BATS bar at Shangri-La Hotel and the Tiga Puluh Bar of Le Meridien Hotel. Take Blue Bird Taxis, they are reasonably-priced, safe and plentiful. RTFF!!!
I was wondering if anyone knows a reliable source of Indian sidenafil Kamagra, Penegra, etc. in Jakarta? What is the price? It's for...errr...a friend, that's it, my friend Pete, who needs a pick-me-up when he overindulges in the amber nectar... :-)
Thanks for the info Spearsman. My travels to this country have just begun. I plan on doing many more. I'm just getting my feet wet. Are the people nice in Jakarta and Solo?
Thanks
Spearsman, keep in mind the prices of Chanel. One of my friends requested a bottle of Chanel Chance perfume, which I managed to pick up in duty free for $60 for the smallest bottle. In the US, I see it for $80.
That's a heavy tip for a massage girl!
[QUOTE=Jaimito Cartero]Does she have a head scarf? :)[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately no - but here's a rarity: she was still a virgin.
[QUOTE=Master Diver II]Unfortunately no - but here's a rarity: she was still a virgin.[/QUOTE]
Virgins aren't on my list. I've had the opportunity, but I guess it just doesn't appeal to me.
[QUOTE=Bigpimpin]Hey Everybody,
Can anyone give me some info on Solo. I will be in Jakarta for 3 days attending the Furnicraft show. Staying at the Borobudur Hotel.
Then I will be in Solo staying at the Lor-in HOtel for 6 days. Then back to the Sheraton at the Jkt airport.
Any information about hot girls, and hotels would be greatly appreaciated. This is my first trip.
Thanks all,
BP[/QUOTE]
Back in the early '90s when I lived in Jkt, visited Solo once a month for business and had a girl every night. You need unfortunately to have someone local take you to the local cathouse....in those days it was not cheap, about Rp 200K for overnight but exchange rate was 2000 so worked out to be $100 per night.
[QUOTE=Traveler1234]Back in the early '90s ........, visited Solo ........[/QUOTE]
I think we should move this topic to the "other areas" section. I posted a reaction there.
[QUOTE=Jaimito Cartero]Virgins aren't on my list. I've had the opportunity, but I guess it just doesn't appeal to me.[/QUOTE]
It's ok, she isn't one anymore. Incidentally, that led to problems because she got VERY attached and demanding (time and attentionwise luckily not monetarily - you never know though if I hadn't managed to cut the ties). Very, very, very sweet (incidentally very much B69's type) but looking for something way more serious than I can or will give. I think she harboured thoughts that I might come around to her way of thinking if she could hang in long enough. And you know how difficult it is to keep resisting these women and stop yourself from saying something completely stupid. If I was single, I'd have been sorely tempted.
MD II
Gents,
The folllowing Jakarta discos are reported in some guide books e.g. Lonely Planet Guide as excelent night venues and possible mongering places :
Tanamur Disco
Bengkel Disco
Jalan Jalan Disco
Do any of the more experienced members know these places ?
Tanamour is mentioned as the number one place to visit.
Any comments would be appreciated.
[QUOTE=Proliberalist]Gents,
The folllowing Jakarta discos are reported in some guide books e.g. Lonely Planet Guide as excelent night venues and possible mongering places :
Tanamur Disco
Bengkel Disco
Jalan Jalan Disco
Do any of the more experienced members know these places ?
Tanamour is mentioned as the number one place to visit.
Any comments would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]
Don't waste your time with any of those places. Tanamur isn't even open anymore.
Read through previous posts on this forum if you want information on places to visit.
[QUOTE=Proliberalist]
Tanamur Disco
Bengkel Disco
Jalan Jalan Disco
[/QUOTE]
Tanamur and JJ's are closed since years.
Bengkel I've never heard of, but it wouldn't surprise me if it doesn't exist anymore as well.
Forget Lonely Planet.
Cheers!
Tanamur in the early to mid 90's was by far the best bar for mongering in all of Asia.
Everybody who ever stepped foot into it has a great story to tell!
[QUOTE=Ekspat]Tanamur and JJ's are closed since years.
Bengkel I've never heard of, but it wouldn't surprise me if it doesn't exist anymore as well.
Forget Lonely Planet.
Cheers![/QUOTE]
You are correct that JJ's is closed as is Tanamur.
Bengkel is still there. But it's a waste of time. I believe they still have naked girls dancing in the karaoke rooms at Bengkel if you pay them 350k each for a couple of hours, but it's also a waste of time. Even though you pay them up front, they will hassle you for tips the entire time they are dancing. Bengkel is a decent place to play pool, but there are far better places than that to go for pool. I don't recommend it at all.
Jalan Jalan also sucks. It's at the top of the menara imperium, but I wouldn't recommend it at all. It's mainly a spot for upperclass indo-chinese teenagers to hang out.
Again, Proliberalist, if you just take the time to read through prior posts here, you can get a helluva lot better information than Lonely Planet.
Gents,
I understand ....and I know of other places recommended here. I just did not know, why places listed in Lonely Planet were hardly mentioned here in the forum.
Thanks
Gents,
I understand and I know of other places recommended here. I just did not know, why places listed in the Lonely Planet were hardly mentioned here in the forum.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Master Diver II]It's ok, she isn't one anymore. Incidentally, that led to problems because she got VERY attached and demanding (time and attentionwise luckily not monetarily - you never know though if I hadn't managed to cut the ties). Very, very, very sweet (incidentally very much B69's type) but looking for something way more serious than I can or will give. I think she harboured thoughts that I might come around to her way of thinking if she could hang in long enough. And you know how difficult it is to keep resisting these women and stop yourself from saying something completely stupid. If I was single, I'd have been sorely tempted.
MD II[/QUOTE]
Poor, poor, little girl! You mean man! Makes me feel like taking care of her and try to make her forget you :D
Lonely Planet is good for travel info but terrible for entertainment due to the feminist bent of its editorial staff. They always criticizes mongering with little snide comments about any places where providers and purchasers might meet.
Also consider that JI and other ideologically aligned groups might well particularly target entertainment venues that are so high profile as to be mentioned in LP.
JJ's was very cool back when, though it was the worst place to try and get a taxi to use the meter late at night. I recall wading through rows of pencuri taxis waiting and soliciting me before finding a Bluebird.
Good day folks,
it's not that I dislike the usual mongerplaces, but due to my situation here in Jakarta I am not free to take home who I would like to, so my only choices are MP's or ST Hotels.
Furthermore I consider MP's less complicated than Hotels, and in the end prices ara about the same.
So went to Pasar Majestik this week at lunch time to a place called Central Massage. The strange thing is that outside it is written that the place offers massage for ladies and gents, quite funny since the lady (guess she must have had more than one face lifting) asked me immediately if I wanted to have massage or "pake make lov".
I was not in the mood for experiments, so I choosed the "pake...". Between 11 am and 3 pm the had 40% discount on the room rate. I got a VIP room assigned for 111.000 Rp (reg. price 185.000) for one hour, plus the girl for 300.000 Rp.
Went in the room, with tub, clean but pretty old looking, and after a couple of minutes the girl comes in. She prepares the matrass on the floor for massage and tells me to strip. I did so and went instinctively to the tub for showering when she said: "Oh...... pake?". I answered affermatively, so she took off her clothes and washed me and then herself.
Her body was nice not too slim with 2 nice hooters (a good handful, the way I like it) but not fat.
Once on the matrass she started to do her job in a very automated way (the usual nipples sucking and so on), so I told her to turn around and to relax. I started to caress her from her feet up to her back and kiss her around her neck, what she really seemed to enjoy and most important, she started to be more spontaneous.
From now on she started to work herself in a very sensual way down to my willie, licking my balls and giving me a good bbbj. On my way to heaven my best piece started to burn so I told her to stop, she must have noticed my "being uncofortable" apologizing and explaining that she just finished "makan" (eating) and that she had "sambal" (f***ing hot souce).
So went back to shower to cool down, she brushed her teeth and ordered sth to drink.
We started over again and it went better the second time. After bbbj, took her doggystyle, the she on top and finally I came into her tight little pussy in missionary position.
30 seconds after we were done the phone rang to advice the hour was over.
Overview:
Name: Sonja
Age: 24
Body: 6/10
Boobs: 7/10
BBBJ: 6-7/10 (after mouthwashing!!!)
FJ: 7/10
Damage: 111.000+300.000+10.000+50.000 (room+girl+drink+tip) = 471.000 Rp
Have a great weekend in this marvelous city!
Cazyfish68
I'm not sure where to post this question, so I will post it here and also on the Thai and Phils threads as well so I can get the maximum answers/viewpoints. I hope the moderator will allow this.
My scenario and question is this. .
I have not been to either Indonesia or Thailand (only to the Phils), but have read many threads on this and other message boards. From what I have read, Thailand seems the best all around place. The Thai women seem more fit (generally) and it appears they are more willing to do threesomes and other such episodes then their Filipina counterparts. The Filipinas seem to be generally less fit with small bellies and do not seem eager to engage in threesomes or any other out of the ordinary episode if you know what I mean. The Indonesian women's looks are not the most appealing to me and it appears mongering there might be a little more challenging then either the Phils or Thailand, but I have noticed in the trip reports and pictures that the the Indonesian women seem a lot wilder. I have seen more toys and threesomes in the Indonesia photo galleries then in any of the others. More anal and other such episodes in the Indonesia area.
The looks of the women is important to me, however, the willingness and general sexual energy of the women is most important.
So my question is, which destination offers the wildest and most sexually willing women?
I also have one more question on Indonesia. The pictures of the Jakarta women show unshaved women where as the Batam women seem shaved. What are the general differences in the women from Batam and Jakarta? What can I expect if I go to either location?
The main reason why I pose this question is I do not get to go on these trips often. When I do go, I spend valuable vacation time and more then a few grand of my cash. I don't want to waste any time and want to maximize my experience. Hopefully, I will receive some insightful information so I can make my decision.
[QUOTE=GoodTimes2]So my question is, which destination offers the wildest and most sexually willing women? [/QUOTE]
I've been to Thailand, Indonesia and the Philippines. In my experiences, the wildest women were in the Philippines. But it's all hit or miss in any of those countries.
I think Thai girls are the prettiest of the 3 places. Filipinos are the easiest to communicate with (see how you are). Indonesian girls are the sweetest.
If I were you, and only had a couple of weeks vacation per year, I would probably choose Pattaya or Angeles City as the spots to hit. Jakarta is great, but it doesn't have much to do during the day. At least not compared to those other places. Angeles City is probably the cheapest alternative. Jakarta is a bit expensive because the hotels have gone up in price in recent years and taxis have gone way up. Plus, the girls are now wanting more money as well. Overall, I don't think Pattaya can be beaten for mongering. Angeles City is cheaper, but it's not as convenient or comfortable as Pattaya. As long as you can avoid the girls there in Pattaya who refuse to take less than 3000 baht for the night, it's not expensive.
Thank you for responding to my post.
I've been to Angeles City 3 times, but not had the opportunity to go to Thailand or Indonesia. My experience was that the Filipinas were very willing to do the one on one Vanilla type sex. However, when it came to threesomes or anal, they would most often have a problem.
From time to time, I would get two women for a threesome, but most of the time it was an awkward situation. The women would not touch each other and sometimes one would try to hide under the covers until it was her turn.
The most successful threesomes I had in the Phils were with women who I did repeat business with, but even then I had to coach and prod the women along. Even these successful threesomes, well, were not that successful. The women didnt touch or lick each other. It was far from what you see on a porn DVD.
I had tried to do anal with the filipinas quite a few times. I would start out by fingering their ass, but then they would suddenly jump up saying no. I gave up after a while trying to find the ones who were willing to do anal.
When I took the filipina women solo, I had no problems with energy or willingness. They would eagerly give me a blow job, 69, doggy style, etc. I found that I had to kick the filipinas out after a while because some of them wanted to stay too long and I frankly wanted to move on to the next at bat.
In looking at the pictures on here of guys in Angeles City, I see that their experiences seem similiar to mine. I rarely see pictures of 3somes or anal thrown up in the Angeles City photo galleries.
However, I do see all of that in the Thailand and Jakarta photo gallery.
I can do without anal, but I sure would appreciate a good old porn style threesome with the ladies touching each other and participating like a team rather then the hide under the blanket routine.
If you dont mind me asking, what were your wildest experiences in the Phillipines and where was it? I have only been to Angeles City, but I hear that Manilla has the better looking women.
[QUOTE=Smoothy]I've been to Thailand, Indonesia and the Philippines. In my experiences, the wildest women were in the Philippines. But it's all hit or miss in any of those countries.
I think Thai girls are the prettiest of the 3 places. Filipinos are the easiest to communicate with (see how you are). Indonesian girls are the sweetest.
If I were you, and only had a couple of weeks vacation per year, I would probably choose Pattaya or Angeles City as the spots to hit. Jakarta is great, but it doesn't have much to do during the day. At least not compared to those other places. Angeles City is probably the cheapest alternative. Jakarta is a bit expensive because the hotels have gone up in price in recent years and taxis have gone way up. Plus, the girls are now wanting more money as well. Overall, I don't think Pattaya can be beaten for mongering. Angeles City is cheaper, but it's not as convenient or comfortable as Pattaya. As long as you can avoid the girls there in Pattaya who refuse to take less than 3000 baht for the night, it's not expensive.[/QUOTE]
Those experiences you have described in the Philippines with anal and threesomes is exactly the same as you will find in Thailand and Indonesia.
If you want a great, no inhibitions at all - threesome, go to the Eden Club in Bangkok. Those girls will always make sure you leave happy. They are more than willing to strap on dildos and go at each other or do whatever you like for your hour and a half.
Other than Eden club, threesomes where the girls are uninhibited are quite hard to find. While it's a piece of cake in any of the 3 countries to get 2 ladies to come home with you, it's difficult to get them to be uninhibited. Like you say, you need to get to know the girls for a while and let them become comfortable with you before they will be uninhibited with anal and/or threesomes.
I have only been to Angeles City in the Philippines, never Manila. But of the girls I took there, I found them to be less inhibited than most girls I've met in Thailand or Indonesia. I'm sure that was luck of the draw though. I believe I just happened across some very naughty ones there in AC.
I checked in at the Le Meridian on a Wednesday on my 3rd trip to Jakarta. In the evening I headed downstairs to Tiga Pulah (in the hotel) and noticed that Ladies Night was on Tuesday, the night before. The nightclub was not well-attended and there were perhaps 10 girls there and fewer guys. Basically dead.
After drinking up my G&T I headed to the second bar on my shortlist, CJs in Hotel Mulia. Wednesday was Ladies Night there and the place was rocking and packed! What an improvement over Tiga Puluh (though it may be the other way around on Tuesdays?). I got a beer and within minutes chatted up 2 women dancing in front of the stage where a live band was playing. CJs is a classy bar/disco, with nice interior and layout.
It seems the hotspots change every day of the week. On my next trip I would fancy going to the bar with Ladies Night each night. Does anyone have this weekly schedule - best places to go by day of the week?
The lady I picked up at CJs was petite and slim. Won't reveal her name but it's the woman with the perfect Julia Roberts smile. She told me every guy comments that she has a smile like Pretty Woman.
In another part of town, Mangga Besar 7, I was looking forward to going to Bintang Mawar again but it had closed down. The place opposite the street, Sierra, was disappointing.
There is still much to explore in JKT.
In my entire life of dating and mongering, I have only found two women where I had successfully performed anal sex. One of the women was Chinese and the other Russian. The Chinese woman was someone I was dating here and after the experience she said it hurt for at least a week. The Russian woman didnt seem to mind so much. There were a few others that were willing but when I tried I had to stop because they appeared to be in too much pain. Everyone else has been extremely disagreeable to the idea. There were a few exceptions where a woman allowed me to stick a finger in the ass. However, the vast majority of women who I have met in my lifetime were very disagreeable to the idea.
I sometimes wonder how its done on the porno videos. If all these women claim it hurts them a lot, I can only wonder on the pornos where there are these super long guys ramming it hard into the ladies.
I would be surprised if I came upon a woman who was agreeable to the idea of anal sex anywhere in the world. I do ask though although I know the answer will most always be no;)
[QUOTE=Smoothy]Those experiences you have described in the Philippines with anal and threesomes is exactly the same as you will find in Thailand and Indonesia.
If you want a great, no inhibitions at all - threesome, go to the Eden Club in Bangkok. Those girls will always make sure you leave happy. They are more than willing to strap on dildos and go at each other or do whatever you like for your hour and a half.
Other than Eden club, threesomes where the girls are uninhibited are quite hard to find. While it's a piece of cake in any of the 3 countries to get 2 ladies to come home with you, it's difficult to get them to be uninhibited. Like you say, you need to get to know the girls for a while and let them become comfortable with you before they will be uninhibited with anal and/or threesomes.
I have only been to Angeles City in the Philippines, never Manila. But of the girls I took there, I found them to be less inhibited than most girls I've met in Thailand or Indonesia. I'm sure that was luck of the draw though. I believe I just happened across some very naughty ones there in AC.[/QUOTE]
GoodTimes, Here is my recommendation for how to handle a girl if you want to go anal. You first have to lube their ass up good before ramming your cock in there. Anal sex shouldn't hurt them as long as you prep them well first. If I'm inclined to go anal on a girl, I'll oil up their ass good with my finger first, then with a well oiled small dildo (if available) before I go in there with my cock. Once I begin anal penetration, I will take it very slowly inching in bit by bit, pulling back to lube up more with each bit. After they adjust to my cock in their ass, I can bang away. The girls won't normally complain if they think you aren't going to hurt them. If you want to just ram your cock in there without the prep, they will complain basically every time.
I've found that if you make sure to do it right (as mentioned above), the girls will end up loving anal and actually request it. Most of them are scared however, because they've encounted men who want to just ram it in there and it hurts them so they don't want that experience again.
Sometimes it takes a few times with a girl before she'll trust you to go anal on her anyway.
If you are taking the hard core girls like the Eden Club girls or the girls in the knock shops (where you have bargained with the mama san up front to guarantee the girl will do anal before you go in there), you will be allowed to go anal anyway. But those girls are normally used to anal and will likely make sure they lube themselves up before you go in.
If anyone else has any other suggestions on this subject, please feel free. I'd be interested to hear some other takes.
[QUOTE=GoodTimes2]In my entire life of dating and mongering, I have only found two women where I had successfully performed anal sex. One of the women was Chinese and the other Russian. The Chinese woman was someone I was dating here and after the experience she said it hurt for at least a week. The Russian woman didnt seem to mind so much. There were a few others that were willing but when I tried I had to stop because they appeared to be in too much pain. Everyone else has been extremely disagreeable to the idea. There were a few exceptions where a woman allowed me to stick a finger in the ass. However, the vast majority of women who I have met in my lifetime were very disagreeable to the idea.
I sometimes wonder how its done on the porno videos. If all these women claim it hurts them a lot, I can only wonder on the pornos where there are these super long guys ramming it hard into the ladies.
I would be surprised if I came upon a woman who was agreeable to the idea of anal sex anywhere in the world. I do ask though although I know the answer will most always be no;)[/QUOTE]
If you're an anal enthusiast you're mongering on the wrong Continent. You need to make your way down to South America. That's the Continent for assfucking. Asia is not. The girls will more often agree to it there, unlesss of course you're walking around with a Pringles can hanging between your legs. If that's the case you'll probably encounter alot more resistance. Sorry that's just the way it is.
On the subject of AC girls not allowing threesomes. If you want a better sexual experience in AC you should forget about the dancers and barfine the older waitresses. Preferably over 25 because they usually turn out to be much more uninhibited and much less introverted than the younger ones. they will be more keen on the idea of threesomes and your chances of finding that elusive three-holer will increase, but it will still be somewhat low among that ilk. The sexual skills of the Filipina have been grossly overstated in my opinion. And AC is over-hyped as a top mongering spot I'm sorry to say.
Another monger and I, recently mentioned Cici of jalan Industri 9-11, room 19, for anal action and threesomes. Let Cici choose the second girl and you will be guaranteed a threesome like you want it, GT2.
Let me also warn you about this girl, Kenny, at Bintang Mawar. Downstairs in the bar, she promised anal action. However, when I told her after the foreplay to lay down on her belly, she refused. She only allowed me to enter her ass-hole in missionary position. She even refused to bend her legs backwards over her head, to make a deep penetration possible. So all I've got inside her, was the tip of my prick. To make things worse, she also wanted me to come outside her.
[QUOTE=Menteng]To make things worse, she also wanted me to come outside her.[/QUOTE]
That's a weird one, bro Menteng. Why would she care if you are cumming while inside her? It's just going to end up in the condom anyway. These girls have some strange fetishes.
I think AC is overrated too. The only reason why I went so many times was the service, it was cheap and a no-brainer. I didnt have to do much planning. Just book a flight and reserve a room. Fly there, take the taxi to the hotel and get laid.
Im attracted more to the Thai women, but since I only have so much vacation time, I thought might as well stick to the same routine. Each time was a lot of fun and the women were very friendly. The sex wasnt bad, above average. The women stuck with you like glue and you had to throw them out of the room in order to move onto the next batter. When you went to the same bar again, the same women would come up to you expecting to barfine them. Wow! I like the aggressiveness, but I really came to AC to go with different women not the same one every night...hehe
The only thing is that most filipinas are not "rail thin" and sometimes you have to hop around a little bit until you find the one who fits the bill.
I could picture some of the Thai women on a magazine cover with their rail thin bodies. However, the filipinas might not make the cover. Thats all I am saying.
Im not really into the Jakarta women that I see on here. Something tells me they are a little more unkept then the pinays or the thais. However, if the Jakarta women have more sexual energy then that might make up for it.
The action shots I see on here of the Jakarta women seem to be the wildest of the bunch.
[QUOTE=The Corn Hole]If you're an anal enthusiast you're mongering on the wrong Continent. You need to make your way down to South America. That's the Continent for assfucking. Asia is not. The girls will more often agree to it there, unlesss of course you're walking around with a Pringles can hanging between your legs. If that's the case you'll probably encounter alot more resistance. Sorry that's just the way it is.
On the subject of AC girls not allowing threesomes. If you want a better sexual experience in AC you should forget about the dancers and barfine the older waitresses. Preferably over 25 because they usually turn out to be much more uninhibited and much less introverted than the younger ones. they will be more keen on the idea of threesomes and your chances of finding that elusive three-holer will increase, but it will still be somewhat low among that ilk. The sexual skills of the Filipina have been grossly overstated in my opinion. And AC is over-hyped as a top mongering spot I'm sorry to say.[/QUOTE]
I was wondering whether anyone can tell me where to head for a full spa package with a full scrub down with some authentic javanese massage and maybe a little on the side later if i so choose, if you know what I mean heheh. I was told in Jakarta such spas with full srcubs and javanese massages are mainly for ladies only.
[QUOTE=Smoothy]That's a weird one, bro Menteng. Why would she care if you are cumming while inside her? It's just going to end up in the condom anyway. These girls have some strange fetishes.[/QUOTE]
I think I know the answer. Just check Menteng's photos and you'll see why;).
[QUOTE=Menteng]Poor, poor, little girl! You mean man! Makes me feel like taking care of her and try to make her forget you :D[/QUOTE]
You're welcome my friend - don't blame me if you end up with another wife:D. I'm even remeniscing about Miss Y right now. I'm stuck in KL until I can resolve my business with my partners and missing Jakarta dreadfully. When are you going and when will you be back? I'd really like to meet if possible. The earliest date I will definitely be in Jakarta looks like 25th April.
[QUOTE=GoodTimes2]In my entire life of dating and mongering, I have only found two women where I had successfully performed anal sex. One of the women was Chinese and the other Russian. The Chinese woman was someone I was dating here and after the experience she said it hurt for at least a week. The Russian woman didnt seem to mind so much. There were a few others that were willing but when I tried I had to stop because they appeared to be in too much pain. Everyone else has been extremely disagreeable to the idea. There were a few exceptions where a woman allowed me to stick a finger in the ass. However, the vast majority of women who I have met in my lifetime were very disagreeable to the idea.
I would be surprised if I came upon a woman who was agreeable to the idea of anal sex anywhere in the world. I do ask though although I know the answer will most always be no;)[/QUOTE]
I must have lucked out then. Smoothy has it right when he says it does take some persuasion unless you're with a wild girl anyway. I've been lucky to find quite a few in my time (including my ex-wife - that's another story). I've managed the ideal threesome you mentioned in Jakarta courtesy of Kiki and Sandra (I think I posted on this about 18 months ago) - do you still have her number Chalky? It cost me all of 500k total for a very pleasant 3 hours in the afternoon. Memories......
MD II
[QUOTE=Babu]I was wondering whether anyone can tell me where to head for a full spa package with a full scrub down with some authentic javanese massage and maybe a little on the side later if i so choose, if you know what I mean heheh. I was told in Jakarta such spas with full srcubs and javanese massages are mainly for ladies only.[/QUOTE]I have not found such place yet. Unfortunately, but here's my suggestion anyway:
Go to the SPA (sorry, forgot the name) whose entrance is in front of the entrance of RED SQUARE Bar at Senayan Arcade. It's for men and women. It's brand new there (they opened just a few weeks ago) and for 450,000 Rp they pamper you the whole afternoon (in a serious way, bathing, scrub, massage, whirlpool, steamroom etc., NO EXTRAS, but really worth every penny anyway). Afterwards (even if I would suggest to go before) you can go in any known MP to get the "extra's" for the regularly known prices.
Enjoy,
CF68
[QUOTE=Babu]I was wondering whether anyone can tell me where to head for a full spa package with a full scrub down with some authentic javanese massage and maybe a little on the side later if i so choose, if you know what I mean heheh. I was told in Jakarta such spas with full scrubs and javanese massages are mainly for ladies only.[/QUOTE]
Depending on the girl you choose, the Kartika Massage (one block from intersection of Jalan Hayam Wuruk with Jalan Mangga Besar, down the alley next to Suisse Bakery) might provide what you're looking for. Pick someone like Cynthia and make sure you inform her that one of the reasons you're there is to get a really good massage.
Another option might be Sumo Shiatsu - tell the mamasan of the local massage girls what you're looking for, they should be able to help you out.
Crazyfish68 also has a good suggestion, the only problem is that you would end up having to go someplace else for the extras, and most of the MPs that provide extras are not particularly close by :(
[QUOTE=Master Diver II]I think I know the answer. Just check Menteng's photos and you'll see why;).
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You've guessed right, my friend!
[QUOTE=Master Diver II]
You're welcome my friend - don't blame me if you end up with another wife:D. I'm even remeniscing about Miss Y right now. I'm stuck in KL until I can resolve my business with my partners and missing Jakarta dreadfully. When are you going and when will you be back? I'd really like to meet if possible. The earliest date I will definitely be in Jakarta looks like 25th April.
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Thanks for the warning, I was too eager to help. But that's me, Sir Gallahad ;)
I will leave Jakarta at 30th of March and I don't know when I'll be back. It depends on the start of the reconstruction of my house in Colombia.
[QUOTE=Master Diver II]
I must have lucked out then. Smoothy has it right when he says it does take some persuasion unless you're with a wild girl anyway. I've been lucky to find quite a few in my time (including my ex-wife - that's another story). I've managed the ideal threesome you mentioned in Jakarta courtesy of Kiki and Sandra (I think I posted on this about 18 months ago) - do you still have her number Chalky? It cost me all of 500k total for a very pleasant 3 hours in the afternoon. Memories......
MD II[/QUOTE]
I have Kiki's number if you need it MDII and the other day she offered a threesome (with Sandra?) and even anal. About that last item, she said that usually she will not allow it at the first encounter, but I don't have to wait. (Must be my charming personality :D )
On the subject of arse-fucking that was such a topic of interest a few days ago, I'd like to add a couple of points....
In my experience, as well as there being girls who won't take it up their sweet little rear entrances on principle, there are also girls who just can't do it because they're sweet little entrances are just that - too little.
I recently tried it on two of my regular fucklets who requested it from me - it wasn't me trying to persuade them. But as much as I lubricated myself and thoroughly enjoyed myself lubing the sweet holes in question, the girlies just couldn't take it. Their arses were too tight and that was it --- aduh sakit!!
Whereas, in other cases I've come across rear entrances that were no trouble to penetrate. One recent arse-fuck lover I encountered offered her arse to me the first time we met and I slipped it in with no trouble at all. Her arse was just made for fucking.
I've had similar experiences before. One crazy nympho I fucked a few times a long time ago claimed that all this complaining about pain was just an excuse by girls who didn't want to do it. It was alright for her, because her arsehole just opened up to anything, cock or dildo, that you wanted to shove into it.
In the middle, there is a group of girls who can take it sometimes but not others. A couple of my dial-a-fuck P4Ps will usually agree to take it up the arse, but sometimes it just doesn't happen.
But, having said all that, I absolutely agree that it's necessary to have lots of lube and to take it very slowly and gently.
[QUOTE=Menteng]You've guessed right, my friend!
Thanks for the warning, I was too eager to help. But that's me, Sir Gallahad ;)
I will leave Jakarta at 30th of March and I don't know when I'll be back. It depends on the start of the reconstruction of my house in Colombia.
I have Kiki's number if you need it MDII and the other day she offered a threesome (with Sandra?) and even anal. About that last item, she said that usually she will not allow it at the first encounter, but I don't have to wait. (Must be my charming personality :D )[/QUOTE]
Menteng,
Perhaps I might need the number when I finally settle my issues and resume my duties redistributing some small measure of wealth from Malaysia to Indonesia. By assuming that the marginal propensity for these girls to spend is 1. Using the multiplier effect, I believe we may collectively have saved the Indonesian economy - aren't we great philanthropists:)? PM me bro (and do try the threesome and let me know).
MD II
[QUOTE=Babu]I was wondering whether anyone can tell me where to head for a full spa package with a full scrub down with some authentic javanese massage and maybe a little on the side later if i so choose, if you know what I mean heheh. I was told in Jakarta such spas with full srcubs and javanese massages are mainly for ladies only.[/QUOTE]
Just go to one of the Delta Spa's in the town. I have been to Delta on Gatot Subroto and took the VIP suite. Take the 2 and a quarter hour sevice. The young and petite girls give you a great massage, hotstone, shiatsu, thai, javanese, anything . You have choice. And then give u a good scrub. They finish it off with a wonderful hand job. And they dont call it extra. Its part of the full body massage. But then the full body masage is available only if you take a 3 session massage of 45 minutes each. The damage in VIP suite is Rp 550 K. I never tried the ordinary suite, which I am sure is cheaper.
The alternative is, take JAD's tour and visit the various places in town which offer these services and report here for us to take a stroll there.
Cheers
[QUOTE=Mangga]On the subject of arse-fucking that was such a topic of interest a few days ago, I'd like to add a couple of points....
In my experience, as well as there being girls who won't take it up their sweet little rear entrances on principle, there are also girls who just can't do it because they're sweet little entrances are just that - too little.
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Hey someone who knows the difference between an arse and an ass. I know I would rather fuck arse than ass, bestiality isn't high on my things to try, especialy with a ass!!!
Your pics in the photo thread showed a real nice arse, but an even better puss. It would be a waste to buggerise that bird with such a nice bit of pink to fuck.
A couple of years back I had posted about gettiing anal. The MP is situated in Kota. The name of the MP is Ibu Linda. I do not remember how much I paid, but I think it was around 150 or 180 K. I guess it should be around 250 now and unlimited pops for an hour. I visited there thrice and all three times I got different girls and all of them were ready for anal. the only thing was that the girls were in the 30 to 32 age range. Though they had younger girls, I asked the caretaker in the reception area that I wanted a girl who will do anal and she immediately showed me quite a few choices. Maybe you can search for it in the thread for the details.
Its just behind the lane of Berlian and Kartika.
Cheers
I'm not greatly into anal but just a reminder for those who are, I've posted a few times on a place very near Cafe Batavia. It's now called "Virgin" - used to be called Pink House. I've been maybe three times over many years and every time the girls there were more than willing, making it very obvious without even asking.
The quality of girls varies a lot from day to day and even the ones available on any one day. It's cheap but fairly squalid.
So what is the real deal in Jakarta? I mean what are the basics.
I know in AC you just check into the hotel, walk across the street, grab some babes, thats it.
Whats the difference between Bali and Jakarta? Give me the skinny on the basics. Whats a decent hotel, how much are the ladies, etc.
[QUOTE=GoodTimes2]So what is the real deal in Jakarta? I mean what are the basics.
I know in AC you just check into the hotel, walk across the street, grab some babes, thats it.
Whats the difference between Bali and Jakarta? Give me the skinny on the basics. Whats a decent hotel, how much are the ladies, etc.[/QUOTE]
RTFF - the answers will be revealed
Just bringing this topic over from the Photo section, I was told the Maribaya problems stem from a turf war between police and military. A General owns the LM Hotel and about a year ago a new Police Chief was appointed that had jurisdiction over the South Jakarta area. The big raid at that time which saw girls in jail for a few days was a result of the associated power struggle which no doubt was about money.
This niggle is ongoing.
No idea as to the accuracy over this but my source was a 30 year veteran of Jakarta.
My first venture into Jakarta will be in early May, after a long hall from HK, through the Philippines. Then on to Surabaya and Bali.
I'll be staying at the Aryaduta and am wondering about a couple of logistical questions.
1/ A reliable travel agent near the hotel for airline and train bookings (I am greatly looking forward to going to Surabaya by train)
2/ I firstly apologise for my total lack of Jakarta geography knowledge, no mater how hard you look at a map you can't really get a feel for a city until you hit the ground. From my reading of the group the Tavern at the hotel is an OK pickup point(?). What in the way of MP and other entertainment establishments are nearby?
3/ By taxi, how long should it take to get to BATS or Blok M from the hotel?
4/ Not that it’s overly important, (I may be understating this) recent information seems not to indicate the girl friendliness of the Aryaduta. My passion is for ST rather than LT but occasionally I stray.
I'm sure that with all experience on the ground that these little enquiries will be of no problem to you. I await your considered responses
MI Foot - Setting foot in new places all the time
[QUOTE=Mi Foot]Not that it’s overly important, recent information seems not to indicate the girl friendliness of the Aryaduta. [/QUOTE]
In Aryaduta, try to book one of the six Deluxe room on the pool level. All have a small and highly pleasant private terrace, but the most important is that they also have a DIRECT access to the swimming pool EVEN AT NIGHT, when the pool area is closed to the other guests. You see what I mean. Your girls will love that.
By the way, Tavern is a dump.
To answer your questions, in summary,
1. the hotel will be able to arrange travel but not necessarily as cheaply as you can arrange it elsewhere. As for the train, you don't really need an agent, just go to the station (which is very close) and arrange it your self - at which time you might find some urchin-like girls hanging around.
2. Forget Tavern, all you'll find is a hand full of 40 year olds who have been at it for 25 years. There isn't much really close but you need a taxi to get anywhere in Jakarta no matter where you stay. Atrium mall is near (search forum).
3. it's pretty meaningless to predict journey times - best to allow an hour to anywhere during the day, at night (late) you could get to BATS or Blok M in 15 minutes.
4. girl friendliness of the Aryaduta or anywhere else is a non-issue, at absolute worse if you did get a problem 20 - 50k would solve it
Following the good pieces of advice in several past reports I decided to visit Kartika MP. I did so twice in the last 2 weeks.
The first time, after ordering a beer I talked to several girls before going upstairs and I was lucky enaugh to meet also a girl who introduced herself as Cynthia among them. About 1.55, brownish long hair, well formed, not fat, nice boobs and pretty face. I went with her upstairs and she offered a great service, incl. super GFE, as reported before on this forum.
So far so good. Went back at Kartika yesterday and looked out for Cynthia. Bad luck, apparently not there. So I ordered sth to drink at the bar and looked out for some pretty alternative after having made to understand to the usual bunch of girls who surrounds you offering herselves, thet I wanted to take my time to make my choice.
I found one who sat on the sofa with a nice smile, so I called her up. I asked her her name and she said "Cynthia". I only thought, hell what a coincidence, but we went upstairs. Her service was good too, but more professional than the girl of last week.
This whole "Cynthia" story did somehow not leave my brain, so after we were done, I tipped her and I went downstairs for another drink, while she disappered in another room behind a curtain, close to the stairs.
While I was dipping my beer I started chit-chatting with another beauty, and guess what? Her name was "Cynthia" too?
I believe in coincidences, but either all of them have the same name for real (yeah right...), or I really can not avoid the suspicion is that among the working girls of Kartika there are more than one readers of this forum (not that there's anything wrong about that, hehehe).
Any similar experiences?
Enjoy the weekend!
CF68
Crazyfish,
That is exactly what happened to me last time I went to Kartika. While looking at girls, one came and up to me and confidantly introduced herself to me as Cynthia. If there are more than one Cynthias there, I had Cynthia II. Despite my friendliest intentions, she was very professional and not GFE like the other Cynthia I keep reading about in this forum. One has got to admire the power of the web and the business prowess of these girls. Globalization has reached the Kota MPs.
[QUOTE=Bulai69]To answer your questions, in summary,
1. the hotel will be able to arrange travel but not necessarily as cheaply as you can arrange it elsewhere. As for the train, you don't really need an agent, just go to the station (which is very close) and arrange it your self - at which time you might find some urchin-like girls hanging around.
2. Forget Tavern, all you'll find is a hand full of 40 year olds who have been at it for 25 years. There isn't much really close but you need a taxi to get anywhere in Jakarta no matter where you stay. Atrium mall is near (search forum).
3. it's pretty meaningless to predict journey times - best to allow an hour to anywhere during the day, at night (late) you could get to BATS or Blok M in 15 minutes.
4. girl friendliness of the Aryaduta or anywhere else is a non-issue, at absolute worse if you did get a problem 20 - 50k would solve it[/QUOTE]Thanks for the quick reply, I knew I could count on the ISG for good information and a meaningful response
Mi Foot - Making tracks near you soon
[QUOTE=Prosal]In Aryaduta, try to book one of the six Deluxe room on the pool level. All have a small and highly pleasant private terrace, but the most important is that they also have a DIRECT access to the swimming pool EVEN AT NIGHT, when the pool area is closed to the other guests. You see what I mean. Your girls will love that.
By the way, Tavern is a dump.[/QUOTE]I'm already booked into a deluxe room. I'll see if ones available
Mi Foot
I enjoy the offerings of Kartika and have done so for several years. I can say that I have never met a Cynthia there. I must ask Bu Yayuk (one of the mamasons) next time to introduce me to one of them. I have asked once what happens when more than one girl shares the same name and was told they sometimes try to avoid confusion by using an adjective for example - Ida and Ida kecil.
Is it possible that you were mistaken and have mixed Cynthia with Sinta or Shinta? They sound similar.
Hi,
This is to report that, to my surprise, I recently saw some Hotel Melawai girls operating at BATS -- probably coming over to BATS after the end of their evening shift. This clearly means that BATS is not only about "high-end" chicks but definitely also some chicks from the low-end side of JKT do also operate there. Best to put some serious condoms then !
The last few months I have had more and more freebies in JKT and have had to pay less and less for sex including in places such as BATS and CJ's. Some fellow mongers ask me why so I wanted to share my opinion on this matter to the benefit of our community.
In my personal case, I guess it's all about being nice and friendly with these girls, building relationship with them over time, and not necessarily expecting the bang right here and there. When going to these clubs, I often chat away with some of these chicks, spend a bit of time with them (but I don't buy them drinks) and I don't go for the bang on the night, rather I sow seeds for the future. Over time they become very friendly and happy to see me -- just like old friends-- and this is when I can make my move (very often they do take the initiative) and can bang them FOC.
Any other views/opinions on bangind FOC is appreciated.
"My Place" is a new high-end MP, very nice, clean with excellent facilities (Jacuzzi, sauna, small gym, pool) in the Senayan area (behind Senayan City). I highly recommend it. If you go for the 3-session package (costs about 325k) you will automatically get HJ. Full Service is probably a bit hard to get in the regular rooms as these rooms are not closed (walls does not reach ceiling).
In terms of girls, I recently tried number 10: so-so looking but fantastic GFE and very nice ball massage/butt massage skills. Very pleasant girl to be with.
I recently went to the Zen karaoke with a client and was quite impressed by the good quality of girls there. Mine, Ika, was very nice -- massive tits and quite GFE. She seemed agreeable for me to take her back to my hotel but at the last minute she bailed -- she told my client that she had never been with bule before so she was a bit shy. Does anyone of you have experience taking away a chick from Zen (free of charge) because she takes fancy of you ?
I used to go to Tiga Pulu at Le Meridien last year when the place rocked. My impression of the place is that lately there's less and less action/chicks. Some of the chicks I used to meet there seems to have moved on to BATS or CJ's. Do you guys have share the same observation ? Why is Tig Pulu going down ? Am I missing something ? It is a shame really as I really like to lounge there with the TV screens, sofas, where you can chat with chicks without having to yell to be heard.
I have been a few times to the Koi restaurant in Blok M lately.- a great restaurant that offers European food at extremely reasonable prices. One of the funny things is that most clients comprise of a bule guy (or two) with his (their) Indo GF. Most of these GF are VERY good looking some stunning. The other day one was staring at me in a big way.- she was with a party of 3-4 other folks. She was a stunner. I wonder if it is possible to approach these chicks when, say, the bule boyfriend is going to the toilet or something. I guess I will have to try one day but at the same time I don't want to get into a fight. Any ideas?
A bule friend of mine got it: genital herpes. He got it apparently in Blok M and scaringly he is the type of guy who always wears a condom during the main act but like most of us I guess lhe ikes to get BJ without condom. So beware of unprotected BJ's. Even though Herpes is not live threatening, seems to be quite unpleasant...
Stay safe out there, go for CBJ !
studying the priceless info on the forum, provided by the sifu's (masters) [i]you know who you are[/i] of the freebie and mall surfing scene in jakarta, i decide to try it out myself.
i spend about a month preparing for the trip, spamming out emails to prospects on various social networking sites. most sites and profiles are genuine but i have doubts about faceparty. it seems to be dominated by ladyboy profiles plus i'm highly sceptical of women who publish hp numbers and 'women' who only bj to save themselves for marriage.
the 'strike' rate is pretty good on the other sites, for example wading thru circa 2000 profiles and inspecting and sending emails to a further 200, at the end of campaign i have approx 20 phone numbers.
not surprising given their socio-economic circumstances, the indos are a very approaching race so have no qualms giving out their hp numbers. albeit cognisant they're not attracted to my good looks or charm, by the start of the ground offensive i have dialogue, connection plus anticipation to meet.
[b]on the ground[/b]
taxi to the hotel, check-in early, exchange money at bank (no commission), buy a simpati card, park myself at pizza hut for lunch, prioritise my targets and proceed to spam out text messages to my top draft picks.
i get hits on all of them so have the dilemma of co-ordinating meetings. in end, given my limited time to 'safari', i decide to concentrate my efforts on the keenest who incidentally is my no.1 draft pick. we arrange to meet that night.
we go to man united in sarinah plaza, a sports bar in worship of anything and everything relating to manu, reasonable price drinks and good snack food. it's a weekday so place is quiet but there's an average band playing so talking is a challenge, despite that by the end of night we are pretty much all over each other and precedent set. we arrange to meet again the next night. the next day i go mall surfing described below.
it's amazing, in indonesia it seems [highlight]all[/highlight] girls are players until proven otherwise. a classic, i enjoy leisurely breakfast in the hotel and make eyes with a couple of young, very doable girls. i can't work it out, they either work in the hotel or are some boolay's regulars. either way they are definitely on the prowl, i guess it's as much a game for them as it is for us.
[b]mall surfing - plaza atrium[/b]
being a sucker for punishment, i walk to plaza atrium from the hotel. man that is an experience!
anyway i get there in one piece and proceed to scope the joint. now for newbie's including myself, it is difficult to immediately identify 'working' girls as the market is fairly dispersed and they don't wear 'work' gear but as the day progresses it becomes apparent there are plenty of them.
in fact all girls in the plaza are free game, i observe local bums approaching all girls including primary school kids! if in doubt about who's who, observe the local punters [i]where there's smoke, there's fire[/i].
the plaza is setup perfectly for shooting down migs. this occasion i park myself in a perfect firing position directly opposite the esteler77 food court, i get plenty of contact from a girl so i stroll around and introduce myself. the girl, alin is apparently with her 'sister', comes from the bush and is attracted to me [i]yeah right[/i]...:rolleyes:
i quickly establish she's working, she offers lt for rp 500000, i counter too much, she counters i can afford it [i]yes but it's an indonesian's average weekly wage[/i], i counter with rp 300000, she accepts [i]tough negotiator...[/i].
we exchange numbers and tell her i will call around midnight [i]in case the night's events don't go according to plan[/i].
[list][*] field - any floor and area however girls eat and 'rest' in the food courts on all floors. the highest concentration of targets are on the 'local' food court on the top floor and esteler77.[*] availability - use the advice of jkt's experienced big game hunters, walk around with a smile 'paste' to your face. give plenty of eye contact, if the mark responds with 2 or more volleys, she is definitely in the game and better still feels confident enough to converse in english.[*] contact - move fast! if she makes contact, regardless of her friends, seating position or she's eating, get in there fast. local punters swoop on the first sign of interest. or use a more subtle approach, buy a drink and park at a table close to the target.[*] price - st rp 250000, lt rp 300000.[/list][b]the score[/b]
the next night we go to semanggi plaza for upmarket japanese food on the 16th floor. food and service is pretty good plus we also get complimentary entry to vertigo x lounge where further drinking, chatting and dancing ensues.
as mentioned below, due to the absolut promotion [i]of her own violation[/i] she is pretty loose and happy by the time we head home and given events the previous night and vibe that night it's clear where it's heading. fortunately i switch the phone to silent mode because throughout the night alin (plaza atrium bird) sends me numerous text messages and phone calls.
me coming from a harden p4p background it's difficult to fully appreciate or fathom the pleasure of 'real' gfe but i am about to experience it first hand.
including the obligatory showers before, the event starts with sensual undressing and long dfk. by the end of kissing, she is really hot! i guide her head for bbbj and whilst she hmmn expertly applies her skills, i simultaneously practice my 'bowling ball' grip with real love juice lubricant.
i give the juices a sniff and [highlight]wow, it actually smells sweet![/highlight]. i always thought it a figure of speech when people say it tastes sweet. i don't know maybe it' something to do with acidity / alkaline levels or the alcohol but it's actually true. me needing to literally taste some of the nectar, i push her back and proceed to give her other lips a thorough tongue lapping.
it must do the trick because she grabs my hands and guides me to kneed her breasts and flick her nipples as i penetrate her with my tongue. it is and must be fucking good because next thing she is rolling me over and going for cowgirl and even though the saddles are on standby, before i know it i'm in bareback...:confused:.
it's gotta be the acidity levels because my brother is normally stung to shithouse when i service my other regular but this one feels soothing or cooling. we are going for it in all kinds of positions and once again due to the alcohol i have amazing staying power. i also ensure she stays wet by kissing, licking and sucking her at the same time.
anyway after a marathon session of humping, bumping and pumping, i pull out and shoot her stomach up to her neck. i'm a gentleman so do not shoot her face on the first fuck.
we shower together where she cleans me up, we kiss and cuddle and take a well earned sleep.
[u]police "ang pao"[/u]
on the way home in the taxi we pulled over by cops from the local precinct on an 'atm run'.
it's an absolute laugh, i've experience it many times in se asia and invariably always follows the same procedure. this occasion the police demand our identification, i leave my passport in the hotel so they hold us back and threaten us with this and that and 'finally' get to requesting a certain amount.
my friend admirably handles the negotiations, they ask for my country origin and say...
drill sergent - "that country is not our ally…we want rp 2mill" [i]really, then why is my country one of the highest donators for tsunami aid...[/i]
friend - "we don’t' have it"
drill sergent - "you must have money, you just come from dinner and drinking"
friend - "we pay with credit card" [i]i never use credit cards in indonesia...[/i]
drill sergent - "how much you got?"
friend - "only rp 50000"
drill sergent - "impossible, never!"
after 5 mins of smiles, laughter and light banter she slips him the rp 50k and we are on our way...:)
[b]costs in rp (unless stated otherwise)[/b][list][*] hotel - ibis tamarin corporate rate rp 405000 direct with the hotel inclusive of taxes and buffet breakfast. [*] airport departure tax - rp 100000[*] taxi - silver bird from airport to tamarin about a 1 hour trip and cost rp 130000 inclusive of tolls and airport surcharge.[*] cigarettes - forget buying smokes in the airport it's cheaper outside rp 85000[*] beers - rwm rich white man type clubs and bars rp 40000 - 60000[*] pre-paid sim - simpati rp 50000 including rp 10000 credit and shit loads of complimentary sms.[*] man u - rubbish live band, drinks and snacks for two rp 230000[*] semanggi plaza - japanese restaurant and vertigo x lounge entry normally rp 60000 per head, rp 340000. on the night an absolut vodka promotion where girls get free vodkas cocktails.[*] police 'ang pao' - rp 50000[/list][b]jakarta airport cgk[/b]
although old info for the regulars i see many boolays (rich white men) getting stung at the airport so feel compelled to offer ways to avoid airport shakedowns and hassles.[list][*] voa - most developed economy punters need a visa. upon arrival go to the kiosk on the way to immigration us$10 for 7 days and us$25 for 30 days.[list][*] visa type - the visa must be paid before getting stuck to the passport at the next counter. therefore be absolutely clear on the period, beware 'days' are calendar and not according to time i.e. departure on calendar day 8 is us$25 visa and not us$10 although < 7 days on time basis.[*] payment - they accept all types of currency, however if you pay in us$ and don't have the exact amount, they will give change in rp according to some unfathomable exchange rate. therefore as a matter of course i always break down large us$ notes into 10 & 5 denominations prior to the flight.[*] passport page - make sure there is a blank page on the passport. if not they will charge or expect an 'extra' fee.[/list][*] taxis - to avoid aggravation, upon exiting the terminal, turn left, walk past the touts until the silver bird rank. as mentioned by senior writers, it's the vip taxi so they use the meter and generally provide reputable service.[/list][b]conclusion[/b]
is it hard work harvesting freebies? yes.
is it worth the effort? absolutely.
the only thing that beats gfe is gf and to top it off jakarta is a great place for big game hunting...:d!
wir: a rhetorical question...:p
[b]related links[/b][list][*] [url]http://www.indo.com/hotels/tamarin/facility.html[/url] - great location, breakfast, value for money and of course 'girl' friendly. highly recommended.[*] [url]http://www.esteler77.com/english/default.html[/url] - by far the highest concentration of girls.[/list]
Bros in ID,
I have been pestered many times by my clients to take them to Cengkareng Golf course in Jakarta because I was told there are many extras available other than golf. For one all the lady caddies wear a standard mini skirts and the looks standard are high. Even have a spa in the male changing rooms.
Can anyone verify this before I put them on the plane to head over there? If the girls are pretty can we take them out? How much?
I guess playing golf on this course is secondary to the girls..... 19 holes golf course!
With respect to your query, yes the caddy girls at Cengkareng golf course are very good looking and nice --hence why this golf course is so successful. However they are not prostitutes and it all depends on the chemistry between you/your client and them. In other words do not take for granted that you can just walk in, play golf and pick up your caddy for a bang after the round of golf is over, it would be a mistake to think so.
Many golf players there get friendly with their (preferred) caddy's over time and then can bang them once the relationship/chemistry is solidly in place.
[QUOTE=Babu]I was wondering whether anyone can tell me where to head for a full spa package with a full scrub down with some authentic javanese massage and maybe a little on the side later if i so choose, if you know what I mean heheh. I was told in Jakarta such spas with full srcubs and javanese massages are mainly for ladies only.[/QUOTE]Go to "My Place" in the Senayan area, that should fulfil your wishes. See my separate report on the subject.
One way that I have used extensively used in these situations, and works, is that you ask a waiter to give your number to the gal ,or to get hers for you, for a tip, and 9 times out of 10, guess what? It actually works.
Cheers
[QUOTE=Mandiri]I have been a few times to the Koi restaurant in Blok M lately.- a great restaurant that offers European food at extremely reasonable prices. One of the funny things is that most clients comprise of a bule guy (or two) with his (their) Indo GF. Most of these GF are VERY good looking some stunning. The other day one was staring at me in a big way.- she was with a party of 3-4 other folks. She was a stunner. I wonder if it is possible to approach these chicks when, say, the bule boyfriend is going to the toilet or something. I guess I will have to try one day but at the same time I don't want to get into a fight. Any ideas?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Knight 1001]One way that I have used extensively used in these situations, and works, is that you ask a waiter to give your number to the gal ,or to get hers for you, for a tip, and 9 times out of 10, guess what? It actually works.
Cheers[/QUOTE]Only in Indonesia!
Hey fellows,
Gearing up for the cherry trip to AC and Indonesia.
I was wondering if anyone has suggestions for places to stay around the Kota area, close to Lokasari?
I have looked into Sands and probably will stay there a few days but I also wanted to try some less expensive alternatives...if anyone know of any good deals in the 25-35 range.
TIA
[QUOTE=Notidik]Bros in ID,
For one all the lady caddies wear a standard mini skirts and the looks standard are high. [/QUOTE]Well in my limited experience at Cengkareng the caddies are a mixed bag, some very pretty some very average. The times I have played they wear long sleeved neck high skivvies, long trousers and a broad sun visor. One can certainly get to know them and take them out but this is not guaranteed.
After the game head in to the spa for a massage and extras are definitely available.
Relax after that in the bar and chance your arm chatting up a waitress to invite out later perhaps. Remember all of these girls have heard all the lines before.
First and foremost it is a well run golf course and that should be your primary reason to visit.
Notidik - although I don't play golf, I can confirm that there are some hot attractive girls who work at the golf course as I know two of them. My guess is that there will be other things to do there apart from golf. I don't know what percentage of girls who work there are "available" but if you assume 100% you probably won't be far off.
I agree that's a good restaurant. The situation you describe is common and my assumption is that in that situation the girl is likely to be available. Whether she is likely to be interested in anyone else will be down to a balance between whether you are younger, more handsome or richer than the guy she is with - with weighting on those criteria of maybe 5%, 10% and 85%. If you are anything like me the only card you have to play is the last one!
The question is what to do? Given many bule's predispostion to settle disputes by violence rather than rationale argument, the sensible thing is nothing. However, If I really want a girl in that situation what I do is this: on the way out, give the waiter a good tip and tell him you want the girl in question and leave it to him - leaving him with your hp number. I tell him to tell her I am a regular customer and very rich. I did this in the Shangri La restaurant last month and I've been sms'd by the girl in question ever since.
Mandiri - I've just read Knight1001's report in reponse to your question - so now you know what to do! By the way, I would not be deterred if there are only girls waiting on the tables either.
[quote]The question is what to do? Given many bule's predispostion to settle disputes by violence rather than rationale argument, the sensible thing is nothing. However, If I really want a girl in that situation what I do is this: on the way out, give the waiter a good tip and tell him you want the girl in question and leave it to him - leaving him with your hp number. I tell him to tell her I am a regular customer and very rich. I did this in the Shangri La restaurant last month and I've been sms'd by the girl in question ever since.[/QUOTE]Many thanks Bulai ! I will have this is mind next time I am in such circumstances.
[QUOTE=Humsup]Studying the priceless info on the forum, provided by the sifu's (Masters) [i]you know who you are[/i] of the freebie and mall surfing scene in Jakarta, I decide to try it out myself.[/QUOTE]That's a nice, informative post. I'd disagree with some of the pricing for mall hunting, but overall a nice tight post. :)
Why stop at 19 holes? :D
[QUOTE=Notidik]Bros in ID,
I have been pestered many times by my clients to take them to Cengkareng Golf course in Jakarta because I was told there are many extras available other than golf. For one all the lady caddies wear a standard mini skirts and the looks standard are high. Even have a spa in the male changing rooms.
Can anyone verify this before I put them on the plane to head over there? If the girls are pretty can we take them out? How much?
I guess playing golf on this course is secondary to the girls, 19 holes golf course![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Menteng]Another monger and I, recently mentioned Cici of jalan Industri 9-11, room 19, for anal action and threesomes. Let Cici choose the second girl and you will be guaranteed a threesome like you want it, GT2.
[QUOTE]
I thought someone mentioned a while ago that Cici has moved on to a different location?
[QUOTE=Notidik]Bros in ID,
I have been pestered many times by my clients to take them to Cengkareng Golf course in Jakarta because I was told there are many extras available other than golf. For one all the lady caddies wear a standard mini skirts and the looks standard are high. Even have a spa in the male changing rooms.
Can anyone verify this before I put them on the plane to head over there? If the girls are pretty can we take them out? How much?
I guess playing golf on this course is secondary to the girls..... 19 holes golf course![/QUOTE]
Hi Bro,
I do play there quite regularly, whenever I am in Indonesia.
First of all, there is no "spa" as reported, but it is true that the massage room is just adjacent to, and opens from, the male dressing room. The MLs are all sitting outside the main entrance to the male dressing room, so you can see the standard of the stocks available, usually just 2-3 girls.
They tend to be aged in their mid- to late 20s, and look quite worn-out, i.e. pasty complexion, loose figures, etc. The quality of the massage really sucks, just gentle strokes on your body with hardly any pressure, and its just a front for FS, and they ask for Rp 1,000,000 (I have tried twice, out of pure desperation!).
The waitresses are ... mama mia! They are the ones wearing the mini-skirts, not the caddies. I envy the person in charge of selecting the waitresses, as they are all VERY SLIM, and they all have an inherent, inborn charm -- be it the eyes, the smile, the way they walk, etc. etc.
The lowdown of all this is that they GO FOR BULES! I have tried many times, and all I have ever got were smiles, and a couple of phone numbers. Yes, they are very willing to give you their phone numbers, but whether they pick up the phone is another matter, and when they do, getting them out is not so easy, cos they are used to receiving all the attention from golfers.
As long as you're Asian, the response is quite cool, whilst the bules get all the hugs, kisses and caresses ... right in the restaurant in full view of everyone. I have even gone one-on-one against a German friend for the favours of one of the waitresses, and everytime I get her alone (in the restaurant), she keeps changing the subject to him. I was told that it's due to their perception that married Asians will rarely divorce wives to marry them, and give them a ticket to a better life. However, I was also told many rich Indonesians "take care" of them for a couple of months, and they are willing.
Regarding the caddies, they have cock-teasing down to a fine art. My most recent experience was with one "hot" caddy, who often stood behind me to rub her C-cups on my back whenever I was reading a putt on the green. I thought the deal was done, as she promised to come to my hotel -- well, I waited and waited .... Most of the caddies live nearby the golf course, so asking them to make the journey to your hotel in the city is very difficult, coupled with the fact that they have to start very early the next morning to work.
I was told by Bro Menteng that there's a place in Blok M where some caddies from Cengkareng hang out.
Another "hot" golf course is Bogor Raya, where I was told that the caddies are even better than Cengkareng. I have never been there, and after hearing what people say about Cengkareng, am inclined to take it with a large dose of salt.
I think the "hottest" golf course in the region is Pinehurst in Bangkok, where they now have 900+ caddies (true!) - especially since they have introduced night golf. It has been said that the caddies for night golf are known to smell of Bvlgari, Christian Dior, etc. fragrances, as quite a few are university students looking for extra income. It's also one of the few golf courses that allow caddies to sit with golfers in the restaurant -- well, "I was told" all are available for take-out.
Best,
Panya
I very much agree with what our fren mentioned below. Being an avid golfer, I've managed to play in many courses around jkt and they to have a few things in common: 1. Teaser caddies 2. Gorgeous waitress 3. Gungho spa ladies.
The caddies are somewhat 50-50 chance hit rate but only the caddy thats working for U. No cross selling, meaning can't work on your fren's caddies. Maybe caddies' house rules. Got a few willing to go back til next morning but have to close deal before end of your game. Don't hope on them coming to hotel by giving cab fare. That's free tips for them. Once you are done with your golf game pick them up at an agreed place. Had my share from Modern, Bogor, Imperial, Jababeka and Rancamaya. It's all in the way you nego with them and trust me, how we look is not really a factor as long as the deal is attractive. Say Rph500k + dinner and drinks. Best chances: Modern, Imperial, Jababeka (cikarang)
Waitress are much difficult and as our brother pointed out, it is normal for them to give out fon numbers but they hardly go out with the golfers, bules or asians. The locals hv better luck because they can provide better for them for a longer stretch of time (1 month or so). But suprisingly, if anybody can get them out in a group and you happen to be around for drinks, they have no problem with you getting in their pants for free. As long as they have the impression that they are not pick up at the golf club while they are working! Talk about principles! Had some good luck with Imperial and Cengkareng waitresses. They did not notice that we were golfers at thier club earlier. He he
Spa girls. Don't waste time because you are definitely gonna waste a lot of money for nothing to shout about.
Sorry for the rumbling, just wanna share my experience as a malaysian golfer in JKT.
Happy golfing!
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Bro Panya,
I must have made you think other than I meant about the caddies of Cengkareng. It was not about a regular place where they usually hangout.
On that particular night a couple of months ago, the four caddies were out in Blok M. It was clear, that they were looking for some extra income and I must tell, that it didn't take them very long to get the company they were looking for.
I have never played golf in Cengkareng or any other place, so how did I know they were caddies from Cengkareng? The co-owner of the bar where I met the girls, does play golf there and he introduced them to me. I got one phonenumber, but since I've never called that number, I'm pretty confused now which of the girls names I have in my phone is the Cengkareng Girl's.
Diver 69,
She moves regularly from one place to another. Two days after our fellow ISG member mentioned that she has moved to a different location, I visited Jl Industri. She was there, in apt. number R19, again. So maybe she will not be there when you visit the place, but since she returns there regularly, you might find her the next time you visit the place.
[QUOTE=Mandiri]Hi,
This is to report that, to my surprise, I recently saw some Hotel Melawai girls operating at BATS -- probably coming over to BATS after the end of their evening shift. This clearly means that BATS is not only about "high-end" chicks but definitely also some chicks from the low-end side of JKT do also operate there. Best to put some serious condoms then ![/QUOTE]
Hmmm, this reads almost exactly the same as a post of mine from December.
Thank you for the overwhelming details on Cengkerang expecially from my countryman bro Panya and can I assume the term 'bule' refers to foreigner/mat salleh? If I am right then over in Phuket golf courses the same thing happens. The 'farang (western foreigner)' does take precedence over us asian. Wonder why, maybe the little bro is bigger?
The info on the Bangkok course also helped, now I know where to go.........
Fellow Brothers of the same interest, I will be going to Jakarta to attend a conference on the last week of March 2007. I just realised that that weekend is the birthday of Prophet Mohammad. Would the various "entertainment outlets" be asked to shut down in respect (like what happened during the Muslim Fasting Month)? Hope for some wise feedback from experience brothers on this forum. Cheers.
Normad2020
I would like to second that question.
I too wil be in Jakarta during the last week of March. Sure hope the usual places will be open.
Does anybody know anything?
[QUOTE=Normad2020]Fellow Brothers of the same interest, I will be going to Jakarta to attend a conference on the last week of March 2007. I just realised that that weekend is the birthday of Prophet Mohammad. Would the various "entertainment outlets" be asked to shut down in respect (like what happened during the Muslim Fasting Month)? Hope for some wise feedback from experience brothers on this forum. Cheers.
Normad2020[/QUOTE]
At tropical Spa, went there just before lunch time, the friendly middle age bloke greeted me on the second floor. I think he remember me from previous time(because of my zero level of bahasa indo).That time, I signal to him that I was looking for big-rack gal which he introduced me to No.15 who I enjoyed very much. I asked him how was No 9 and he told me good massage but not beautiful so forget that.
No.67,kiki, was offered and accepted…he seems to know better.What’s the famous Aguan look like?
She is a real cutie with friendly personality plus workable English which was a relief (for once).
After a very good massage with a lot of attention on my butt and balls, she then offer what she called “good service”. When asked what she meant by that, she said in her own work “very good head job and sex”.don’t know where she got that from but did sound very good to me.
However, almost lost my interest when she said 700k then 600 then 500 …cut to the chase, ended up at 350k(phew). The blow job was really slow and nice especially when she work you from the side..The sex part was just ok with her kept asking me to agree to slow down because also want to cum which I tried to ignore. Overall nice body, fair skin, not that big boobs but not small with little pink nipples.. a nice overall experience. After I was done, she asked me to come back with a closing sales pitch, next time even better service but can you give me 500k? there goes my WIR!
No.67
Look 7/10
Body 7/10
BBBJ 7/10
FJ 7/10
WIR no.. already had enough negotiation in my life
Recently moved to Jakarta and have been reading the forum pages with interest. Decided this week to 'test the waters'. Monday, tried Galaxy Spa, only because I was in the shopping complex in front of the Spa. Great for massage, but not much else. Attractive girl, nr 17, gave an ok HJ and allowed a bit of mutual touching (finger under her shorts, etc) but could not be coaxed into undressing or BJ.
Wednesday returned to my favourite from when I was here 7 years ago, Hotel Melawai, Blok M. 350000 + 24000 for a beer, but the girl 'Desi' was young, very pretty, great boobs and great tight body. Great BBBJCIM, and responded very well to mutual touching. Format there seems to have changed, last time you were swamped from the lift to the bar, this time I was not approached, even when having a beer at the bar, until I stood to leave, then the girls apporached. At 1130 there would have been at least 30 girls there, various sizes but none unattractive or 'lumpy'.
Friday, first trip to Kartika. Again it was early, 11am, but as soon as I walked in I was swamped. Selection was not great, not many girls, maybe 12, but there were 2 which met the critera. Before going off with Tooti, I enquired of the lady running the show the cost, to which she replied 250000 for the room, which is reported in the forum. I then asked how much for 2 girls, she said 500000 (naturally). To be cheeky I asked why if its 250000 for a room, it shouldnt matter how many girls I had........didn't work. Anyway, great body-body massage, but BBBJ was only fair, as was the sex with obligitory groaning at various times. Tip for the girl started at 120k but settled at 50k.
Has anyone had a 'mandi kucing' (cat bath) there? In fear of getting the obvious, is it normal to negotiate the cost with the girls in Kartika prior to engaging them? I had no problems sticking to my initial offer of 50k, but was wondering what the correct protocol there is, its a long lane to run up with angry women chasing you..
Fieldmous
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Jakarta Locals:
Any of the Jakarta locals know anything about arrests and detentions made recently (within the last few days) of working girls in the BLOK M area ? Were any particular bars specially targeted for this treatment, or was this a wide dragnet along Jl. Palatehan ? How many girls were picked up by the police and how long are they expected to remain in custody ? What about the mongerers that were there. Were they left alone or what ?
I have been receiving a lot of text messages from one of my past acquaintances (sister of an apparently detained) and I want to check on the validity of what I have received.
I appreciate all the information you local guys can provide.
Respectfully,
alifulani
alifuani..
not aware of any serious blok m police activity of late. nothing that has impacted on guys drinking there. not to say there was not a small raid as it hardly makes a ripple now.
having said that often some kantip officers will troll around looking for girls without a jakarta ktp and generally attempt to detain some on the grounds of immorality.
pretty common on paletahan now to see girls rep001tering at high speed.
[QUOTE=BBBJ]I would like to second that question.
I too wil be in Jakarta during the last week of March. Sure hope the usual places will be open.
Does anybody know anything?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Normad2020]Fellow Brothers of the same interest, I will be going to Jakarta to attend a conference on the last week of March 2007. I just realised that that weekend is the birthday of Prophet Mohammad. Would the various "entertainment outlets" be asked to shut down in respect (like what happened during the Muslim Fasting Month)? Hope for some wise feedback from experience brothers on this forum. Cheers.[/QUOTE]
Based on my experience last year, the birthday of the Prophet Muhammad is a one-day holiday that is not a particularly religious day (although more Mosalems than normal will pray at the mosques that day), and certainly nothing like the fasting month of Ramadan.
I am pretty sure that all of the usual places should still be open, and there may actually be more girls than normal prowling the various shopping malls. Just be discreet and low-key (which should be your normal behavior in Jakarta) and you should have no problems.
[QUOTE=Fieldmouse]Format there seems to have changed, last time you were swamped from the lift to the bar, this time I was not approached, even when having a beer at the bar, until I stood to leave, then the girls apporached.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I noticed that. I went on Sunday night a few weeks ago, and found the place very quiet. The girls were all obviously keen to bag a client, but they kept a four meter distance - although they waved and smiled and blew kisses and all sorts of other stuff to try and attract attention. If you give the slightest indication, they'll be over at your side in a second. Must be a new rule or something.
I forget the name of the girl I ended up with. Sweet enough, but not worth raving about compared to some of the others. She complained that business had been really slack lately. That's a common cry, but it had the ring of truth to it. I asked about the rumoured raid, and she denied it flatly - but then asked me several times who I'd heard it from, which made me think there was something to it. I declined to explain that I'd read it on ISG.
On the whole, after not having been for ages, the quality at the M Bar seems to have gone down hill dramatically since, say, a year ago. Or perhaps I just hit a bad night.
Folks,
Read through the threads, and first of all thanks for all the great info!! =).
I'm staying in Jakarta for 2 days on business, first time here and staying in a suite at the Le meridian.
I do want to go to a spa for a good massage and FS, perfereably a place where i can pick out the girl.
A few questions for the masters on the JK thread -
How are is Bloc M and fortune spa? Is it safe to go by myself later at night?
For a chinese guy that grew up in America, how hard is it to pick up chicks at Tiger or whatever bar? Is that the preferred method?
For in-call service, anyone have a website that you can preview the girls first? I did read about a call in service that Azerty recommended that one guy liked. Any others? Would staying in a very big suite make the girls want to charge more?
I'm new to the area and not sure how safe it is to venture out. That said, if any locals on the thread want to meet up and do something tonight, I would be down =).
Thanks in advance.
JB
Went to the Japanese style Zzzzyx Spa some time ago with some colleagues.
The place is on the same street at just next door to Gran Mahakam hotel and the famous KOI restaurang at Blok M.
THE PLACE
Japanese style spa with changing room, showers and onsen at the ground floor.
Reception area with friendly staff that showed the spa menu. Waiting area and massage rooms upstairs. Nice big chairs in the lounge.
THE MASSAGE
Shiatsu massage. A lot of walking on on once back followed by a very nice and hard oil massage. Very strong grip by girl. Cubicle with whole in the floor where you face down. Walls that does not go upto the ceiling. Sporadic noise from other cubicles partly drowned by some light music. 90 minutes of quality massage for 190 K.
THE SPECIAL
"You want special massage". If i had a dime for every time I'd heared that question... Negotiated a HJ for a 100 K tip. Good technique. Started off with me laying on my front with my legs over her thies and got a good warm up.
Then came the half period mark when she signaled to me to turn over on my back spreading my legs apart. She positioned her-self in front of me and begun a great ball and cock massage. The grand finale followed shortly afterwards.
THE VERDICT
Place: 7/10
Massage: 5-8/10 (walking on back did nothing for me but the oily part was good)
HJ: 8/10 (excellent technique but performance a bit hurried)
Damage: 290 K + 10 K tip to attendant
Return: Yes. This is a great value for money, HJ only, spa.
alifulani,
It happened Saturday evening, after 12.00 midnight. I was outside Top Gun when the raid occurred. I saw police officers and cameramen at the front of D's Place. I gave signals to girls outside Top Gun who were still not aware with the LEs presence, they ran toward Top Gun. People known to me said My Bar closed their door. LEs only raided the street. Most of the girls got arrested because doors were closed from inside. They were released after LEs took their pictures and documented them.
JAKARTA AFTER DARK
I will be wearing a blue shirt/jeans (asian guy).
Let's see if we can't meet up and compare notes =).
Jakarta After Dark is live and direct and on the scene! I could not ask for a more detailed first hand account than the one you offer. Many thanks.
Since you did not mention it, I guess that other than photographing and documenting the girls, everyone else was pretty much left alone ?
Can you confirm that most, if not all, girls have already been released from custody?
Alifulani
I confirm JAD's statement as I was inside Topgun when the girls actually asked me not to go out with my girl, because i could have gotten in trouble, and to wait for a while, which was wise to do. I thought it was rather closer to 1:00 or 1:30 am, but then again, my attention, and eyes, were focused on something more shapefull, firm and as smooth as silk and certainly more interesting than my watch ...
Funny because in fact usually I would go to D's place ... but that night, as you may have guessed, I was hooked on a new cutie on the block and who happened to be in Topgun, not in D's place ... the rest is history.
Be safe
[QUOTE=Jkt After Dark 2]alifulani,
It happened Saturday evening, after 12.00 midnight. I was outside Top Gun when the raid occurred. I saw police officers and cameramen at the front of D's Place. I gave signals to girls outside Top Gun who were still not aware with the LEs presence, they ran toward Top Gun. People known to me said My Bar closed their door. LEs only raided the street. Most of the girls got arrested because doors were closed from inside. They were released after LEs took their pictures and documented them.
JAKARTA AFTER DARK[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jkt After Dark 2]alifulani,
It happened Saturday evening, after 12.00 midnight.
JAKARTA AFTER DARK[/QUOTE]Alifulani, apologies for my earlier post about not being aware of the raid. I had gone home by then on Saturday nite, but I stand by my comment that this is a relatively common scenario now. Girls and guys used to SMS and talk about it, nobody bothers now.
Me included. Sorry this does not help your problem though.
I read about this girl with bigest racks and just found her number tag on the board after many visit. Picked her out of curiosity. Very nice and friendly babe indeed. A full 36inch-be. Quite a turn on especially when I asked her to just go naked during the massage. Great view
The oily masage was really nice with no hesitation to rub your balls every 5seconds. The only down side was her body was not at tip top condition but the eweet face made up for it.
During the session my finger was everywhere and she ust giggled along. Have to admit not my best day so the FJ session was just within 5 minutes. At the end, she asked me to comeback next time so I asked if she will do the back door goalie game. After a small pause, she said yes so will return for the jedi duties to complete the mission.
On my way out, about 7Fls hanging around, many good looking ones but no can do.
Referring to earlier doubts / queries I confirmed today at Maribaya / Melawai: next Monday (Nyepi) and coming 31March (birthday of the prophet) are normal business days for the bar - no restricted operating hours (including secondary services).
As to the current cost [14March2007]:
full service is still at 350.000Rp/girl but lately there is a tendency to ask for 400.000Rp. Responding "tarif lama" (old tariff) as used in some taxis helps you jokingly to secure a saving. A mug of Bintang draught still at 25.000Rp
New linen and airconditioners have "upgraded" the workstations. If temp not to your wishes, ask for "remot" (remote) to adjust the settings of the AC unit.
Day shift 10:00-17:00 and with a slight overlap Evening shift 17:00-23:00
Lunchtime is normally quite busy and you might find your favourite girl occupied ("sibuk") or all rooms taken. A few smaller rooms at the back are really lousy - better wait a bit until one of the main rooms (A to F) gets free (to make sure your turn, hang out in the corridor to the main rooms animating your girl to find the next free room).
It's safe if you are sensible as I'm sure you are - but KEEP YOUR TAXI wherever you go. If you get a Silver Bird at Meridien it's only likely to cost 120k max for most of the evening; if you come out of a bar in Blok M with a girl you'll never find a taxi with working meter and you'll get ripped off, especially if you are unfamiliar with the place and can't speak bhs indo.
As for agency/incall, I wouldn't advise that personally. Generally, there is no need for it, but if you do use such a service, always get them to bring 2 or 3 girls for you to look at to slightly increase the chance of getting what you asked for. One of the potential problems is failure to turn up - your better off finding someone in 30 bar, or the cafe in the lobby if you don't want to venture out. As a last resort, tell one of the doormen you want a girl and they will get one.
[QUOTE=Barson]I read about this girl with bigest racks and just found her number tag on the board after many visit. Picked her out of curiosity. Very nice and friendly babe indeed. A full 36inch-be. Quite a turn on especially when I asked her to just go naked during the massage. Great view.[/quote]I never heard about that place.
Sounds a bit like Mawa Spa (close to Galaxy). This place privides full-service massage as well. Book Deluxe room !
Dear Seniors of JKT,
I'm a total noob in JKT and am here for only 2 days.
Staying at the mandarin and looking to venture out tonight.
From reading the forums, seems like blok M is the place to be for action. Can any seniors here advise whats the market rates for full service massage?
How far am I from blok M and what would a regular bluebird taxi cost me for the night?
What is the best time to be there ard blok M? Am going at night after a business dinner, so I'm worried whether I'll miss the "boat". :)
Thanks in advance to the kind seniors here. If anyone is free tonight and would like to join me in my quest, please drop me a message.
Regards,
James
Hi,
What is the going rate for BlokM? I was last out more than 2 years ago, so I assume prices have gone up.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Samchad]Hi,
What is the going rate for BlokM? I was last out more than 2 years ago, so I assume prices have gone up.
Thanks[/QUOTE]ST 250-350 and LT 350 + . The ST variance is based on what other guys tell me and some may pay more if they have had a good romp. I have a standard fee. LT is really up to you, if its all been good, then some more is always appreciated.
This is a general guide.
You will not "miss the boat" at Blok M unless your dinner ends well after midnight! see my earlier posting re taxi - at night it's only 15 minutes away. There are many postings on rates - 100 USD will easily pay for a whole night out - taxi, drinks in a bar, and "full service" in an MP.
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[QUOTE=Bulai69]It's safe if you are sensible as I'm sure you are - but KEEP YOUR TAXI wherever you go. If you get a Silver Bird at Meridien it's only likely to cost 120k max for most of the evening; if you come out of a bar in Blok M with a girl you'll never find a taxi with working meter and you'll get ripped off, especially if you are unfamiliar with the place and can't speak bhs indo.
As for agency/incall, I wouldn't advise that personally. Generally, there is no need for it, but if you do use such a service, always get them to bring 2 or 3 girls for you to look at to slightly increase the chance of getting what you asked for. One of the potential problems is failure to turn up - your better off finding someone in 30 bar, or the cafe in the lobby if you don't want to venture out. As a last resort, tell one of the doormen you want a girl and they will get one.[/QUOTE]
Retaining the silverbird is a good idea to a point. The problem is finding the bugger when you want to go home. Not terribly hard at Blok M depending on the parking situation, but I've done it at Stadium and that was lousy.
However, although the crappy unmetered taxi's will indeed rip you off, it usually isn't that much, and may be a lot cheaper then paying the silver to wait. I know that a normal metered ride from Blok M back to ShangriLa is around 20k rupes, so when the hacks quote me 30k, I dont mind. It's only a dollar. Only once did a hack change his price when we rolled up to the hotel door, which was pretty stupid. I paid him what we originally agreed and stepped out of the car and into the pack of armed security who knew me by name.
Brandon, I agree up to a point but NB I was addressing my comments to a self-proclaimed "new" monger who I suspect could get more seriously ripped off than you (or me). As for finding the taxi - if you owe him around 100 USD I suspect he will usually make himself fairly conspicous as a rule; also most have mobile phones so you can always call them.
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Wrong place - please post on classified thread mate!
Hi bro's,
Since I'm here, not so long, had the pleasuere 2meet some ladys with a lot fun&fu. K:.)
I think I found a new Abbreviations, you can call it in other ways but I say. It WWW Girls= web western working girls. All girls I meet&fu. Ed says, they like western guys and also ready by second meeting to make free horizontal business. Be nice to them and as much as you help about taxi or other costs, you can enjoy them more, more. Bad, that I don't have so much time for them. Its like a oase.
Pls can you send me some (other) free dating sites?
Wish all of you (s) funy&fu. Ky days.
I have two reports with photos in the gallery... enjoy.
[QUOTE=Mango Jango]I have two reports with photos in the gallery... enjoy.[/QUOTE]Hi Mango Jango,
Thanks for the pix and detailed reports. Quite brave of you too to mention the price you paid as you probably know you may get flamed for paying such steep prices (1.5 M Rp) for a girl (no matter how GFE and good service) in wonderful JKT. Anyway, good that you had a great time but please next time be careful with how much $$$ you spend with the girls -- the JKT market can get spoilt quickly, sadly. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Mango Jango]I have two reports with photos in the gallery... enjoy.[/QUOTE]
Tried to pm you but your box full - guess everyone is asking for name and phone of your 1.5 juta cewek - pm me with it, I may try her next trip:D
[QUOTE=Mango Jango]I have two reports with photos in the gallery... enjoy.[/QUOTE]
Fellow bro,
I'm glad you had a great time but perhaps you should look into the amount you are tipping. 500k for a ST Atrium girl sounds overpriced; but that's not as bad as tipping 500k (an excessive amount for a tip) on top of 1 million - even for overnight GFE. I'm sure you will receive some unpleasant comments wrt the prices you paid. You have to understand that you paid the girl much more than the average monthly wage here for one night! GFE and this kind of service are quite common if you talk and treat the girls nicely. Please dont hike the prices up for the rest of us.
MD II
So he paid 1.5 million. He said she paid for all drinks at the clubs and that he was sloshed. Those drinks could have easily cost over a million for the night. So in effect, he was just reimbursing her for the drinks.
1.5 million is too much to pay outright, but if she really paid for alot of other expenses during the night, it may not have been exorbitant.
What was the bottom line?
[QUOTE=Mandiri]Hi Mango Jango,
Thanks for the pix and detailed reports. Quite brave of you too to mention the price you paid as you probably know you may get flamed for paying such steep prices (1.5 M Rp) for a girl (no matter how GFE and good service) in wonderful JKT. Anyway, good that you had a great time but please next time be careful with how much $$$ you spend with the girls -- the JKT market can get spoilt quickly, sadly. Thanks.[/QUOTE]
Rp 1.5 M for 24 hours and not to mention the shopping expenses! To top that, 500K for an Atrium girl!
I envy you Manggo. Wish I had that kind of money to burn :(
[QUOTE=Smoothy] So in effect, he was just reimbursing her for the drinks.
[/QUOTE]
Hard to believe, since he paid "the girl next-door" 500K. That means that the beauty queen is of the same level.
[QUOTE=Menteng]Rp 1.5 M for 24 hours and not to mention the shopping expenses![/QUOTE]
Usually I also give 1.2-1.5juta to my regular girl.
But GFE and many bumbum from Friday afternoon till Sunday afternoon. :D
Cheers!
I know i paid too much for the atrium girl, and I apologise. To be honest I didn't think about much other than the good time i had in little over 24 hours and I saw no sense in taking 200k in my wallet as i left the country. It'll probably be worth less next time, anyway.
As for the other ayam, I suspect I got a good deal when I think about it now. She did pay for drinks and taxi. Sure the taxi ain't much but I know I drank a bit. Anywayz, since she is on my buddy's retainer and officially off the market, so I probably didn't ruin it for u guys.
errrr, i hope not.....
Hey guys,
I'll fly to Jakarta again next week. Any idea where to find nice decent women or girls, not being after money and who won't play dirty tricks on you? Cos I just had trouble with one I met in December, who wanted to threaten me, I would have made her pregnant, etc.
Where and how can I find a nice and decent one?
[QUOTE=Ekspat]Usually I also give 1.2-1.5juta to my regular girl.
But GFE and many bumbum from Friday afternoon till Sunday afternoon. :D
Cheers![/QUOTE]
Maybe I should find me a job! Then I might allow myself such indulges :(
[QUOTE=Lironicus]Where and how can I find a nice and decent one?[/QUOTE]Sorry, Lironicus: I think most people on this forum are looking for nasty, indecent ones!
Menteng - you are too modest. Your exploits are well documented.
As for me, I don't know when I'll be back in Jakarta but I know I won't wait as long as I did for this trip. Now I'm back home but the memories of Jakarta and Colombo are warm. I'm going to start saving my pennies - no more banging horses for 30 minutes at $100 a pop.
I'm told Manilla is also very much like Jakarta and perhaps I should try that. Never been there.
Re: Daniel Steele
I guess young Don is doing some good business from ISG. Same experience as Dan here with exactly the same modus operandi for the girl (cute little 21 yo, called Dian) but couldn't stop at the blow job! Asked her how much to finish off the massage "properly" and she said 500k. Sorry, but she was worth it just for her cute little pussy alone! Got her number for dinner tomoro night so stand by for some pics if she lets me this time.
Hi bro Mojohojo,
Thanks for the info, I am interested to try the body massage at Classic hotel , could you pls give the address.
[QUOTE=Mojohojo]I am a MALAYsian but had made numerous trips to JKT for the wonderful golf courses you guys have. Had a few escapades with the lovely caddies but nothin to shout about. Basically, it will cost you around 500-800k for an all nighter and they'd probably want to hang around the next day (for free food and some light shopping). I'd say value for money but since we play golf everyday, how many times can you go, right.
The Mall hunting sounds very interesting and had RTFF on Atrium and will be staying at OAsis Amir next week. Any advice for us newbies? much appreciated..
We'd usually go to Stadium for our quick fix since it is relatively cheap and convenient. Had a mommy named EMA on the disco floor who can be coaxed to coming back after she finishes work for FOC. Be ready to open the door at 4.30 am though. The girls are less memorable (name wise that is) but mostly ok.
Last week tried Klassik Spa at hotel Classic and found the selections are quite extrordinary. The package starts at Rp550 (Massage, BM and ML) and 750 for the freelancers (Sinetron type girls also available, to my eyes, that is). Had a 38DD package named IN IN which gave one hell of BM with her soft DDs. very accomodating and allowed seconds if you can (extra Rp50k).
Any other similar joint that i can sample? will try to provide FR once done.
JKT rules
MJHJ[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Xmen2000]Hi bro Mojohojo,
Thanks for the info, I am interested to try the body massage at Classic hotel , could you pls give the address.[/QUOTE]
I went to Jl Industri 9-11 a couple of days ago to find out that "Cici has left the building". Apparently she has got a permanent job at Classic Spa.
So guys, stop looking for Cici at Jl Industri. Her ex-collegues told me a lot of you were looking for her over there. I'm sorry if that is also due to my information some weeks ago.
The place to look for her now is at Classic Spa, jalan K.H. Samanhudi 43-45.
BTW, PRC's and Uzbek's are also available over there, if you are willing to pay for it.
[QUOTE=Menteng]The place to look for her now is at Classic Spa, jalan K.H. Samanhudi 43-45.[/QUOTE]
Sounds like her price just tripled.
Gents,
If I ask a Bluebird taxi driver to take me to Jl Industri 9-11 , will he be able to find the place ? (assuming the he is experienced driver)
Hi all,
Newcomer im forum living in Jakarta. Need some advice : where to go afterwork to have a drink and meet some girls for arranging some hot meeting in the future ? between 18 to 20 before coming back home ? I do not look for spa (know already and several good places mentioned here) bar/club in hotel are empty at that time
Thanks in advance for some advice
Went recently to Melawai 6th floor : confirm that girls are now looking at you but stay at a certain distance Chose one who just before entering ask a friend to come Result two times regular blowjob the second round one of the 2 complain not having swallow anything ! 2 * 350K + tip 2*50.
[QUOTE=Maaars]Re: Daniel Steele
I guess young Don is doing some good business from ISG. Same experience as Dan here with exactly the same modus operandi for the girl (cute little 21 yo, called Dian) but couldn't stop at the blow job! Asked her how much to finish off the massage "properly" and she said 500k. Sorry, but she was worth it just for her cute little pussy alone! Got her number for dinner tomoro night so stand by for some pics if she lets me this time.[/QUOTE]I think maybe same girl I got before but she don't let me touch her. You saying you got to fuck her "cute little pussy" for the 500k price of massage? More details man and can't wait for the pics to see if the same one.
hi guys,
i am in jakarta now and here till sunday afternoon. heading back to singapore.
staying at sari pan pacific.
looking for high quality action. visited melawai hotel 6th floor. nothing interesting. did glodock plaza. was interesting. but no aquarium, philippines/china/vietnam style. you take what you are given.
used the presidential suite. 15000 rupiah higher than the vvip room which is 360k. the therapist's no was 189, very friendly, very talkative but didnt catch a word as she spoke bahasa only with snatches of english thrown in. after the regular massage which was quite good she rendered her extra services which were above average. good body ample albeit chubby. ended with a regular shower. the whole session lasted about 60 mins and the girl left me poorer by 300k. not a bad deal on the whole.
any leads on caucasian babes in this region. would like to explore tonight.
shall update at end of the trip.
[QUOTE=Smoothy]Sounds like her price just tripled.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, you're right!! :( :( :(
The first time I met her it was 140K and now 550K!! To be honest though, nowadays they quote 200K at jl. Industri.
Proliberalist,
If the taxi driver (pretends he) doesn't know, tell him it is behind Sheraton Media at jl Gunung Sahari. Every driver will now that!
[QUOTE=Adam C Day]I think maybe same girl I got before but she don't let me touch her. You saying you got to fuck her "cute little pussy" for the 500k price of massage? More details man and can't wait for the pics to see if the same one.[/QUOTE]Adam, is this the girl that was saying that wanted to marry you or is it another one that you just had for a massage? She's coming to the hotel in about 2 hours time and we're spending the day together tomoro, so will be sure to get at least some clothed pics then stand by!
[QUOTE=Maaars]Adam, is this the girl that was saying that wanted to marry you or is it another one that you just had for a massage? She's coming to the hotel in about 2 hours time and we're spending the day together tomoro, so will be sure to get at least some clothed pics then stand by![/QUOTE]No. I broke up with that girl after I saw some phone messages of hers that were too revealing while she was asleep. Last week I tried Don's service and got this Dian. Cute girl, Great massage and BJ but she wouldn't let me touch her at all. So I'm wondering if for just 500k you got both massage and good bang or did you add another 500k for it.
Hi,
I made an error in my previous post ([url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=572986#post572986[/url]).
The place is really called 'Zyzzyx' Spa. If you search on that together with 'Jakarta' on google you will find a map-directory site that shows the exact location.
It's one of the few spas I have visited so far in direct vicinity to Blok M. If any brother knows of similar place close by, please comment (5+1 not to my liking).
[QUOTE=Crazyfish68]Following the good pieces of advice in several past reports I decided to visit Kartika MP. I did so twice in the last 2 weeks.
The first time, after ordering a beer I talked to several girls before going upstairs and I was lucky enaugh to meet also a girl who introduced herself as Cynthia among them. About 1.55, brownish long hair, well formed, not fat, nice boobs and pretty face. I went with her upstairs and she offered a great service, incl. super GFE, as reported before on this forum.
So far so good. Went back at Kartika yesterday and looked out for Cynthia. Bad luck, apparently not there. So I ordered sth to drink at the bar and looked out for some pretty alternative after having made to understand to the usual bunch of girls who surrounds you offering herselves, thet I wanted to take my time to make my choice.
I found one who sat on the sofa with a nice smile, so I called her up. I asked her her name and she said "Cynthia". I only thought, hell what a coincidence, but we went upstairs. Her service was good too, but more professional than the girl of last week.
This whole "Cynthia" story did somehow not leave my brain, so after we were done, I tipped her and I went downstairs for another drink, while she disappered in another room behind a curtain, close to the stairs.
While I was dipping my beer I started chit-chatting with another beauty, and guess what? Her name was "Cynthia" too?
I believe in coincidences, but either all of them have the same name for real (yeah right...), or I really can not avoid the suspicion is that among the working girls of Kartika there are more than one readers of this forum (not that there's anything wrong about that, hehehe).
Any similar experiences?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Diamond Back]Crazyfish,
That is exactly what happened to me last time I went to Kartika. While looking at girls, one came and up to me and confidantly introduced herself to me as Cynthia. If there are more than one Cynthias there, I had Cynthia II. Despite my friendliest intentions, she was very professional and not GFE like the other Cynthia I keep reading about in this forum. One has got to admire the power of the web and the business prowess of these girls. Globalization has reached the Kota MPs.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bebek]I enjoy the offerings of Kartika and have done so for several years. I can say that I have never met a Cynthia there. I must ask Bu Yayuk (one of the mamasons) next time to introduce me to one of them. I have asked once what happens when more than one girl shares the same name and was told they sometimes try to avoid confusion by using an adjective for example - Ida and Ida kecil.
Is it possible that you were mistaken and have mixed Cynthia with Sinta or Shinta? They sound similar.[/QUOTE]
I chuckled when I read the recent series of posts about "Cynthia" at Kartika Spa. Since I have written/posted about her more than anyone else here on ISG (since my first session with her in February 2005, I've had at least 20 sessions with her), I decided to do some field research first before writing this post.
Sorry, D-back, but it is nothing as profound as the web or globalization, but simply this:
There is only one Cynthia working at Kartika, and by any reasonable man's standards, the real Cynthia is clearly one of the 5 best-looking girls working at Kartika on any given day, and she might have the single best set of tits of any girl at this place. Please note that I'm not talking about Cynthia in comparison to Jakarta women in total, I'm just talking about her in comparison with the other girls at Kartika.
Because of her cute face and great tits, Cynthia has always been one of the most-demand girls at Kartika; while other girls may get a customer as infrequently as once a week, Cynthia appears to average at least two customers per day. A guy walking into Kartika for the first time would most likely notice that there are usually only four or five decent-looking girls there at any given time, including Cynthia, and would focus on asking one of these girls for a session. And because Cynthia gives outstanding service, she is more likely than most Kartika girls to have repeat customers, such as me.
Of late, Cynthia's normal popularity has only increased, as apparently several readers of ISG have walked into Kartika and specifically asked for Cynthia, either to have a session based on my strong recommendation or simply to check her out. But Cynthia may not always be on duty in the bar, as she's either upstairs in a session, hasn't arrived at work yet (she rarely arrives before 3 p.m.) or she's on one of her monthly days-off. So, while the other girls would probably tell the truth and point a guy to the real Cynthia if she's in the bar, they probably feel no shame in pretending to be "Cynthia" if she's not around when a guy asks for her.
To complicate things, Cynthia and everyone else pronounces her name as "Sin-tia" which as Bebek points out, is close to similar Indonesian names such as Sinta or Shinta.
What to do? Based on Crazyfish's post, he found the real Cynthia the first time, so that's at least one description to go on (she has great "tanned" legs, a couple of reddish streaks in her brown hair, and is not thin-waisted, to add to Crazyfish's description). Other solutions would include getting Cynthia's cell phone number from me via PM and setting up an appointment with her either in Kartika or at your hotel after 10 p.m. Another solution would be to find Ira (pronounced "Ear-rah", cute face but body is nothing special) tell her you know me (I can PM you the name I use when I'm there) and ask her to point out the real Cynthia.
Good luck! She is worth the effort, trust me.
[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]Of late, Cynthia's normal popularity has only increased, as apparently several readers of ISG have walked into Kartika and specifically asked for Cynthia, either to have a session based on my strong recommendation or simply to check her out. [/QUOTE]
I don't like body massage, but I sure was getting curious about Cynthia after reading those reports.
A couple of nights ago I entered Kartika. Many girls that night. Some of them winking and praising themselves as the best one. Some even offered "mandi kucing" to make it more tempting. I asked for Cynthia and suddenly there was a silence. You could tell that there was some envy in their reactions. As there was no girl that introduced herself as Cynthia, I headed for the exit. When I was near the door, I was called back by two girls. One pointed at the other and said that the other one was Cynthia. She had big boobs indeed, but remembering the recent FR about the multiple Cynthia's I hesitated. Besides, I didn't find her very attractive (sorry MS!).
So I tried to find a way out of the situation and said that I understand that more girls use the name Cynthia since a friend of mine recommended her highly. How can she proof that she's the one I'm looking for. She said that I had to take her word for it. Then I said that maybe she could give me the name of my bule friend that uses her services very often. She mentioned your real firstname MS! So I was convinced that the one and only Cynthia was standing in front of me!
But since I didn't find that her looks were enough compensation for my dislike of body massage, I said that that wasn't the name I was expecting to hear.
So, MS, if you visit her again tell her I apologize for my behaviour.
When walking out of the alley where Kartika is located, a girl in front of the other MP, Berlian, caught my attention. Slim, fairly skinned, tall to Indonesian standards and a pretty face (to my standards). She too, offered "mandi kucing". I was tempted by the combination of the qualities I mentioned, so I surpassed my disliking of body massage.
Inside the room she told me that actually she was already leaving, that's why she was outside. So I said "lucky me".
We started the action, i.e., we took a shower together. Under the streaming shower she started to give a BBBJ that was OK. Then she orderd me to lay face-down on the bed. The body massage she gave was standard, I think, because I'm no expert. But it did not make me change my opinion about body massage.
After the massage it was time for the shower. And, again, she gave me a long BBBJ. I had to direct her to the bed to start the FJ. The BBFJ was OK too. I asked her if CIM was allowed and she had no problem with that. So, back to the shower to wash my prick. She accompanied me there and again, she gave me a long BBBJ. She must be crazy about BJ's.
So, back to bed where she gave a mediocre AR but a good CIM. She kept on sucking till it felt funny and I had to push her away from me. I think she likes to feel a cock in her mouth. Her name is Yossy.
Last night, after a good seafood meal at Kelapa Gading with JAD2, I felt like having anal. So we headed for Bintang Mawar, next to Lokasari. It was quite in there. I even had to look for a mamasan!
Eventually I found one and told her what I was looking for. She said that there's nobody there that would do that. We left and at the door was a rather chubby girl that JAD2 knew. He introduced me to her and she started to flirt with me. I said that she'd better not waste her time on me, because I was looking for backdoor-action. She answered, that she's the one I was looking for. That surprized me and JAD2 too, who has known her for a long, long time without realizing that she's into that kind of action. To make sure, I asked her would she lay face-down when I fuck her from behind. "Sure", she said. (The last time I had anal, the girl refused to turn her back on me. I had to penetrate in missionary position with both her legs kept on the bed, so only the tip of my cock entered her. Otherwise it would be too painful, she said.)
After the BBBJ and BBFJ, she put the rubber on and I positioned her. It wasn't easy to enter her. Actually I needed several attempts to fully penetrate her. Apparently she didn't do anal very often. After a couple of minutes she asked me to stop and fuck her pussy again. Of course I refused and instead, I started to move faster. She was moaning and pleading me to stop. But somehow that made me very horny and that might be her goal. I came very quick.
After that she gave me a proper hand-massage while comparing anal and pussy fucking. Her name is Evy.
Menteng,
The pleasure was all mine, mate. Thank you for everything last Sunday.
KL Guy and B69,
It happened outside Sari Pan Pacific last Sunday at 2.15 am when I tried to find a taxi (my car was in the shop for repair), after I sent 2 gentlemen inside the hotel with their "dates" from BATS. MD, we used the girl's car from BATS to the hotel. Obviously, there is a looser on the other end of the game, hahaha.
Oke. I met this joker who offered me girls outside the hotel. I wasn't interested, but I told him to leave his number. When I dialed his number in my phone, it said "Blue Entertainment". Rayant is Abu. I told him I got his calling card from you KL Guy. I also told him how you guys got his calling card; your nationalities, physical descriptions, hotel preferences. He said he knows you guys.
From the conversation, I found-out he got girls from a pick-up joint at Jl. Hasyim Azari 7-C. This house charged 300K and to my recollection this joker charged you guys 500K last time.
I have nothing against the business, the agencies, and the girls. But, I am not happy to find-out you guys were cheated somehow.
KL Guy, B69, and MD; let's get together on your next visit!
JAKARTA AFTER DARK
[QUOTE=Menteng]I don't like body massage, but I sure was getting curious about Cynthia after reading those reports.
A couple of nights ago I entered Kartika. Many girls that night. Some of them winking and praising themselves as the best one. Some even offered "mandi kucing" to make it more tempting. I asked for Cynthia and suddenly there was a silence. You could tell that there was some envy in their reactions. As there was no girl that introduced herself as Cynthia, I headed for the exit. When I was near the door, I was called back by two girls. One pointed at the other and said that the other one was Cynthia. She had big boobs indeed, but remembering the recent FR about the multiple Cynthia's I hesitated. Besides, I didn't find her very attractive (sorry MS!).
So I tried to find a way out of the situation and said that I understand that more girls use the name Cynthia since a friend of mine recommended her highly. How can she proof that she's the one I'm looking for. She said that I had to take her word for it. Then I said that maybe she could give me the name of my bule friend that uses her services very often. She mentioned your real firstname MS! So I was convinced that the one and only Cynthia was standing in front of me!
But since I didn't find that her looks were enough compensation for my dislike of body massage, I said that that wasn't the name I was expecting to hear.
So, MS, if you visit her again tell her I apologize for my behaviour.
When walking out of the alley where Kartika is located, a girl in front of the other MP, Berlian, caught my attention. Slim, fairly skinned, tall to Indonesian standards and a pretty face (to my standards). She too, offered "mandi kucing". I was tempted by the combination of the qualities I mentioned, so I surpassed my disliking of body massage.
Inside the room she told me that actually she was already leaving, that's why she was outside. So I said "lucky me".
We started the action, i.e., we took a shower together. Under the streaming shower she started to give a BBBJ that was OK. Then she orderd me to lay face-down on the bed. The body massage she gave was standard, I think, because I'm no expert. But it did not make me change my opinion about body massage.
After the massage it was time for the shower. And, again, she gave me a long BBBJ. I had to direct her to the bed to start the FJ. The BBFJ was OK too. I asked her if CIM was allowed and she had no problem with that. So, back to the shower to wash my prick. She accompanied me there and again, she gave me a long BBBJ. She must be crazy about BJ's.
So, back to bed where she gave a mediocre AR but a good CIM. She kept on sucking till it felt funny and I had to push her away from me. I think she likes to feel a cock in her mouth. Her name is Yossy.[/QUOTE]
Menteng, thanks for your report, and no problem, you don't have to agree with me about how good looking Cynthia might or might not be. Note that I'm very careful in pointing out that Cynthia is good-looking in comparison with the other girls at Kartika, not the world at large (i.e. she's 6 or 7 in looks, not a 9 or 10). In any case, I like Cynthia because of the total package, not for her looks.
Interesting coincidence, however, as a few months ago I stopped by Kartika, learned that Cynthia was not available, so I walked over to Berlian and had a session with Yossy, the same tall girl as in your post. Had a fun time, and yes she is very "oral." So obviously we share the same taste in some girls :)
[QUOTE=Jkt After Dark 2]From the conversation, I found-out he got girls from a pick-up joint at Jl. Hasyim Azari 7-C. This house charged 300K and to my recollection this joker charged you guys 500K last time.[/QUOTE]
Sounds like I need to find this place. I could start my own business fleecing unsuspecting Bules. All I'd need would be 10 guys a night to utilize my services and I could quit my job.
That's one reason I never use those agencies. I don't think it's fair that about 50% of what the customer pays for the girl goes to the "agent". I like for all the money to go to the one providing the true service - the little honey. It's easy enough to find girls in Jakarta. There's no need for an "agent".
That's interesting information - I suppose on the one occasion I used this guy's service I was a "willing victim" because I had seen one particular girl when she came with this guy to meet KL Guy (though he turned her down - not his type) and I really wanted her! It's always the case that "agents" do not "add value" to the transaction and as a rule I don't use them or recommend their use. As Smoothy rightly says, the girl is the main "victim" in all this.
Hello everyone,
I have been absent from this forum for almost 2 years now, can't believe some of the old guys are still around like bule69, JAD, menteng and all that.
Had a turbulent relationship with my authoritative & dictatorial g/friend recently, so i decided to come back for some mongering.
Just need some guide and info for some of the places in Jakarta.
Where is Kartika and Berlian? I seem to be reading these two phrases from many of the forum members postings. I know they are some kind of fuck outlets, but just need some extra info on location and price.
Is CJ's of Hotel Mulia is in Central Jakarta, along Jl. Sudirman-Thamrin? Is there are any cover charge and what is the price of a BEER over there?
I heard there are many bars in the Blok M area, but how far is it from last Busway Station or Pasaraya Grande? Is it possible to pick up a girl here for Rp300K?
And finally, is there any streetwalkers near Jl. Mahakam? Is Jl. Mahakam close to central Jakarta?
I hope some the you can help me to give some info, I will be in Jakarta for a few days thru 4th of april. Thanks and your help will be appreciated. Anyone wanna go out for a beer let me know.
Evil Doer (Banned from the USA).
[QUOTE=Jkt After Dark 2]Menteng,
The pleasure was all mine, mate. Thank you for everything last Sunday.
KL Guy and B69,
It happened outside Sari Pan Pacific last Sunday at 2.15 am when I tried to find a taxi (my car was in the shop for repair), after I sent 2 gentlemen inside the hotel with their "dates" from BATS. MD, we used the girl's car from BATS to the hotel. Obviously, there is a looser on the other end of the game, hahaha.
Oke. I met this joker who offered me girls outside the hotel. I wasn't interested, but I told him to leave his number. When I dialed his number in my phone, it said "Blue Entertainment". Rayant is Abu. I told him I got his calling card from you KL Guy. I also told him how you guys got his calling card; your nationalities, physical descriptions, hotel preferences. He said he knows you guys.
From the conversation, I found-out he got girls from a pick-up joint at Jl. Hasyim Azari 7-C. This house charged 300K and to my recollection this joker charged you guys 500K last time.
I have nothing against the business, the agencies, and the girls. But, I am not happy to find-out you guys were cheated somehow.
KL Guy, B69, and MD; let's get together on your next visit!
JAKARTA AFTER DARK[/QUOTE]
I'm afraid i did the same as B69; I saw the girl and was interested in the girl and took the short cut. I'd like to arrange a get together when I can confirm my dates. I'll be in touch.
MD II
Many thanks to the fellow mongers who are going out of their way to show girls their pictures on the net. You have totally screwed me good and considering I have never done anything to you guys, I am not impressed...
I know who you are and when I meet you I suggest you walk on the other side of the road.
This site is certainly not a place for you to get brownie points showing girls their pics. Every naked pic has always been of a worker and other pics have always been in the best taste. Now because of you I am in a very difficult situation and totally pissed off.
Enjoy as I will be coming after you
[QUOTE=Bali Semut]This site is certainly not a place for you to get brownie points showing girls their pics. Every naked pic has always been of a worker and other pics have always been in the best taste. Now because of you I am in a very difficult situation and totally pissed off.[/QUOTE]
Huh? Trouble in JKT?
What happened?
arrived in jakarta a few days ago and since i had a lot of meetings in different areas, the company provided me a car (nice mercedes e360), a map and free reign of where ever i wanted to go. yesterday as i stopped by a refilling station, a young, dark-skinned but nevertheless slightly attractive lady with a red cap approached me and wanted to sell me some energy drinks costing 10k for 3 bottles. seemed like a reasonable offer and since i was a bit pooped from my meetings decided to buy the pack. as i paid, she leaned closer and asked if i wanted i massage. hell yeah! i thought. but i told her i didn't have enough money (which wasn't entirely true). she says in broken english "is okey up to you. " well there were other cars waiting in line and i was feeling a bit flushed as i noticed the stares we were getting. i think she noticed my uneasiness and she motioned i park the car in the far corner. after i did so, she followed and said she can meet me after 5 so i asked if we can meet in mcdonalds sarinah as it was quite a popular place. she agreed and so i left making mental notes of what she looked like and a reminder to move meetings to another time.
i reached mcdee 10 minutes early and so waited in the car watching everybody going in and out of the front entrance. 5: 00 came and nothing. i still waited. 15 minutes later, i decided it was a no-show and waste of time so i started to leave my parking spot. then i spotted her just about to enter the restaurant. immediately i re-parked, shut down and ran after her. when she saw me, she had this biggest white smile i had ever seen. so i took her hand and led her in and ordered some stuff before i suggested we go to my hotel. she agreed and along the way, she talked about herself while i tried to concentrate on my driving and at the same time nodded and uh-huh-ed to her ever so often.
in my room, she wanted to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] first and suggested i undress which i promptly, er no hurriedly did but i left my boxers on as i wasn't sure of her yet. she came out all smiling and said something about my white skin. not sure really. so as i lay face down, she started to give me what seemed to be a mix between a poke and a jab and what was starting to feel like a ridiculous massage. i started to complain and asked her if she really knew how to massage. yes she goes but i knew she didn't. anyway i let her do whatever it was she was doing and asked me to turn over after only 10 minutes. i lost my hard-on sometime back though. so i turned over and she immediately pulled down my boxers and grabbed my droopy. then she started to play with it and it felt nice for a change. so i was turned on again and i watched her funny but cute facial expressions continually change while she stroked me. then she started to give me an adequate blowjob and in the meantime, i fondled her breasts. they were not firm but not too soft either. she stopped and undressed all the way and asked me to kiss her down there. i felt wary as she was too aggresive so before i took a lick i smelled and it was a very sweet and pleasant smell and it was so pink with no dark areas around it. i was enticed and eagerly lapped her to the sound of her moans. as i was too excited, i immediately grabbed the rubber, put it on in a jif and entered her tight pussy. she protested and cried a bit (not sure if it was pain or pleasure) but i just kept on pumping harder and harder in missionary position and she moaned more and soon it was over in maybe minutes. then we both showered together and she washed me first before i washed her. after which we talked some more and she had to go back so i tooked her to the lobby and helped her get a cab. i gave her 250k and she thanked me and smiled sweetly again. i asked for her number but she didn't have a phone and said we could meet again in the gas station. so i let her go and i got dressed for a dinner date but that's another story.
[QUOTE=Bali Semut]Many thanks to the fellow mongers who are going out of their way to show girls their pictures on the net. You have totally screwed me good and considering I have never done anything to you guys, I am not impressed...
I know who you are and when I meet you I suggest you walk on the other side of the road.
This site is certainly not a place for you to get brownie points showing girls their pics. Every naked pic has always been of a worker and other pics have always been in the best taste. Now because of you I am in a very difficult situation and totally pissed off.
Enjoy as I will be coming after you[/QUOTE]
Well, apparently I'm not the only one who is confused. What happened?
[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]Menteng, thanks for your report, and no problem, you don't have to agree with me about how good looking Cynthia might or might not be. Note that I'm very careful in pointing out that Cynthia is good-looking in comparison with the other girls at Kartika, not the world at large (i.e. she's 6 or 7 in looks, not a 9 or 10). In any case, I like Cynthia because of the total package, not for her looks.
Interesting coincidence, however, as a few months ago I stopped by Kartika, learned that Cynthia was not available, so I walked over to Berlian and had a session with Yossy, the same tall girl as in your post. Had a fun time, and yes she is very "oral." So obviously we share the same taste in some girls :)[/QUOTE]
You're right about the looks of Cynthia compared to the others there. Maybe I should find out about her other qualities :D
Well, if ISG members flock to Berlian and more girls over there will say that their name is Yossy, you and I, we'll know which one is the genuine Yossy ;)
It's strange that Yossy was so oral with you guys. She wasn't that way with me. She got in position to give me oral, murmered something about terlalu kecil, and went straight to the hand job instead. I don't speak bahasa so I couldn't understand.
To be a top 5 girl at Kartika is not difficult. But I do love getting sandwiches at Kartika. One girl on top and one beneath sliding back and forth with suds everywhere is just great. I don't go there often anymore (due mainly to the fact that the girls there are not very attractive, and very agressive the second you walk in the door), but when I do go, I like to go for the sandwich. It's double the price, but what the hell?
Smoothy, I hate to say it, but that may be an indication she was turned off by your odor down there. I'm just guessing.
Smoothy - are you sure that's what she said?! It's not a reason to not give you oral!
[QUOTE=Bulai69]Smoothy - are you sure that's what she said?! It's not a reason to not give you oral![/QUOTE]
Thanks B!
I didn't want to be the first to translate what she said...ROFLMAO
Ooohhh...shit! I am sorry but that is just too funny!!!
[QUOTE=Traveler1234]Terlalu kecil![/QUOTE]No, you got it wrong! She was talking about her mouth, not his.
Just to clarify what has happened, one monger in particular has shown his girlfriend pictures of various girls i had posted in the past few months, she then called all the people that she recognised and told them. I then got some very nasty phone calls from said people and some nasty threats.
Another monger from jakarta showed his girlfriend shots as well and when she was in bali she put two and two together and worked out who I was, thats why I had to change from Prof Designer.
Either way now all said shots have been deleted thanks to Jackson helping me out so now there is nothing that they can say or do.
One thing I ask is why the heck would guys go out of their way to show shots to girlfriends etc. Guys you are on here because you want to know what and who is available and now your stupid actions have resulted in me really considering if I should ever post pics again. If there was ever a naked shot it means they are a worker so then you other mongers would know who to look out for. Now if I post anything it will be heavily disquised and blurred etc so I dont have further threats.
Hope that explains a few things.
Love em leave em, never trust them
Semut
[QUOTE=Bali Semut]One thing I ask is why the heck would guys go out of their way to show shots to girlfriends etc. Guys you are on here because you want to know what and who is available and now your stupid actions have resulted in me really considering if I should ever post pics again. If there was ever a naked shot it means they are a worker so then you other mongers would know who to look out for. Now if I post anything it will be heavily disquised and blurred etc so I dont have further threats.
Hope that explains a few things.
Love em leave em, never trust them
Semut[/QUOTE]
Agree 100%.. not the first time I've heard of d1ckheads websurfing the site with their bargirls/gf's.. not sure why.. maybe to show their superior web skills?? Still though, one or two out of the hundreds who visit here, is a small ratio.. most guys on here do the right thing.
Just make sure there's no way of tracing you from the shots. Glad u got it sorted out.
You know what? I have already reacted to this same stupid showing off some time ago, and what has happened to you could in fact happen to any of us who post, it's just like a time bomb that will definitely blow in our face, it's only a matter of time.
I have decided that should I ever post again, there will never be a face shown again in my pics.
Cheers.
[QUOTE=Bali Semut]Just to clarify what has happened, one monger in particular has shown his girlfriend pictures of various girls i had posted in the past few months, she then called all the people that she recognised and told them. I then got some very nasty phone calls from said people and some nasty threats.
Another monger from jakarta showed his girlfriend shots as well and when she was in bali she put two and two together and worked out who I was, thats why I had to change from Prof Designer.
Either way now all said shots have been deleted thanks to Jackson helping me out so now there is nothing that they can say or do.
One thing I ask is why the heck would guys go out of their way to show shots to girlfriends etc. Guys you are on here because you want to know what and who is available and now your stupid actions have resulted in me really considering if I should ever post pics again. If there was ever a naked shot it means they are a worker so then you other mongers would know who to look out for. Now if I post anything it will be heavily disquised and blurred etc so I dont have further threats.
Hope that explains a few things.
Love em leave em, never trust them
Semut[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Freeman 418]Agree 100%.. not the first time I've heard of d1ckheads websurfing the site with their bargirls/gf's.. not sure why.. maybe to show their superior web skills?? Still though, one or two out of the hundreds who visit here, is a small ratio.. most guys on here do the right thing.
Just make sure there's no way of tracing you from the shots. Glad u got it sorted out.[/QUOTE]
The stupidity of people will never cease to amaze me...probably some dumbass who thought this would show his rented "conquest" that he would never do something like that or some other stupid thought to make himself look better in her eyes and save himself $5...and he endanger someone! Bali Semut could have been seriously hurt or worse!
[QUOTE=Freeman 418]Just make sure there's no way of tracing you from the shots. [/QUOTE]Also make sure the girl cannot easily be traced. All it takes is an eye-shade. Buy one from a sex-shop: they make the pic more sexy, if anything.
[QUOTE=Bali Semut]Just to clarify what has happened, one monger in particular has shown his girlfriend pictures of various girls i had posted in the past few months, she then called all the people that she recognised and told them. I then got some very nasty phone calls from said people and some nasty threats.
Another monger from jakarta showed his girlfriend shots as well and when she was in bali she put two and two together and worked out who I was, thats why I had to change from Prof Designer.
Either way now all said shots have been deleted thanks to Jackson helping me out so now there is nothing that they can say or do.
One thing I ask is why the heck would guys go out of their way to show shots to girlfriends etc. Guys you are on here because you want to know what and who is available and now your stupid actions have resulted in me really considering if I should ever post pics again. If there was ever a naked shot it means they are a worker so then you other mongers would know who to look out for. Now if I post anything it will be heavily disquised and blurred etc so I dont have further threats.
Hope that explains a few things.
Love em leave em, never trust them
Semut[/QUOTE]Even if I do not have access to the pics (yet!), I would like to express my solidarity to Semut. Unfortunately we all have to live with the fact that the mother of idiots is always pregnant.
CF68
[QUOTE=Ekspat]Huh? Trouble in JKT?
What happened?[/QUOTE]
Sounds like somone's done the dumbest thing - again! Please take note guys:
Do NOT show the girls you are a macho man by informing or showing them this website. Also, as has been noted by others before, do NOT use the same nickname here as you might use on any internet chat or email you might give a girl. Some of them are smart enough to do websearches on your nicks and you'd be surprised to find how easy it is to link you back here. Quite a few guys in the KL forum changed their nicks as a result of this. Have fun but please keep this site and its information away from the girls (and pimps). Just because you recognize them doesn't mean that you have to show them the source.
MD II
Hi,
I previousely been to JKT a year ago and found hips of fun in Cj's and Tiga Puluh.
Understand from a friend who visited CJ's 2 days ago that the place has been renovated and is not so happening already.
Can someone who has been there last week or so rectify that. ( maybe is only happening on weekends?)
What about other place like Block M and BAts.
I have 3 nights in JKT and I would like to maximise my trip to fish for ST girlies.
thanks again
Links :)
[QUOTE=Gonzo #2]No, you got it wrong! She was talking about her mouth, not his.[/QUOTE]
Now, THIS is funny after reading all those pitiful reactions! :) :) :)
[QUOTE=Knight 1001]there will never be a face shown again in my pics.[/QUOTE]
When you are posting pictures of these young girls tits, ass and pussies, I don't notice the face much anyway. :)
I heard today from a realtor friend of mine, who claims to have inside information on just about everything, that the infamous anti porn law IS going to go into effect, nationwide, EXCEPT for Bali. I was under the impression it had been put on the back burners, and was going to die a quiet death, which is what it should do.
Apparently, this is going to happen, and it is going to happen within the next 2 years. Of course, I have no idea if this person is reliable or not.
Thoughts ?
[QUOTE=1Ball]... the infamous anti porn law IS going to go into effect, nationwide, EXCEPT for Bali. [/QUOTE]The Bali people argued that the law would outlaw some of their traditional Balinese dances. I'm not surprised it is getting passed. A two-year sentence was imposed on the editor of the Indonesian edition of Playboy magazine. Apparently the magazine contained no nudity to speak of, not even by present-day Indonesian standards. The sentence targeted the name more than the content and it says much about the present climate.
I'm leaving my laptop at home this time and I shall be particularly careful to hide any pics of girls.
Remember also that many girls are savvy enough to look in your bookmarks and history sections of the browser, they are incredibly nosy at the best of times and what may start innocently enough can develop into a full blown snoop session.
Personally I have an old laptop available for girls that come around and like to have a play, they never get near my main computer.
It works on another level too, quite a few freebies from girls that ask if they can come over during the day and check their Yahoo, MSN etc. I recommend it !
[QUOTE=Links]Hi,
I previousely been to JKT a year ago and found hips of fun in Cj's and Tiga Puluh.
Understand from a friend who visited CJ's 2 days ago that the place has been renovated and is not so happening already.
Can someone who has been there last week or so rectify that. ( maybe is only happening on weekends?)
What about other place like Block M and BAts.
Links :)[/QUOTE]Links,
CJ is definitely a happening place, and not only at the week-end -- perhaps your friend was out of luck on the very night he was there.
BATS is rocking as well.
Tiga Puluh has been steadily going down the last 12 months (even though you will be able to find the relief you need there as well)-- not sure why.
In Blok M, the Jalan Falatehan bars are still rocking, no worries at all.
So enjoy your stay in JKT, you will be sorted out, not to worry!
[QUOTE=Bali Semut]Just to clarify what has happened, one monger in particular has shown his girlfriend pictures of various girls i had posted in the past few months, she then called all the people that she recognised and told them. I then got some very nasty phone calls from said people and some nasty threats.
Another monger from jakarta showed his girlfriend shots as well and when she was in bali she put two and two together and worked out who I was, thats why I had to change from Prof Designer.
Either way now all said shots have been deleted thanks to Jackson helping me out so now there is nothing that they can say or do.
One thing I ask is why the heck would guys go out of their way to show shots to girlfriends etc. Guys you are on here because you want to know what and who is available and now your stupid actions have resulted in me really considering if I should ever post pics again. If there was ever a naked shot it means they are a worker so then you other mongers would know who to look out for. Now if I post anything it will be heavily disquised and blurred etc so I dont have further threats.
Hope that explains a few things.
Love em leave em, never trust them
Semut[/QUOTE]
This is so sad and so silly. I am sure whoever did it was not meaning anything mean. But I completely agree that we are here for simple funs in life. Histronics, emotions, love and stuff blong to different spheres. I hope you are fine Semut. It is sad to see this happen someone who is so helpful and experienced. Hope you were able to identified who showed the site to the girls and suitalya dvised him.
[QUOTE=Maaars]She's coming to the hotel in about 2 hours time and we're spending the day together tomoro, so will be sure to get at least some clothed pics then stand by![/QUOTE]Any update?
Went down to Kota last weekend, for a drink and what-not. Well, I'd been up all the night before, so I wasn't really up for much action, but I was prepared to keep an open mind.
I dropped into Kartika, and I have to say, it's a lousy place for a drink if you aren't going to use the full services there. I mean, you expect to have girls come up to you and promote themselves, but it was just totally aggressive. Jeers and cries of "Pelit, lu!" when I tried to have a drink at the bar before making a firm choice. That killed any interest I may have had. I should say that I HAVE used the services there in the past, but found them a bit disappointing: too much use of push-up bras and other scaffolding to create a false impression of what you are getting. I didn't see the famous Cynthia, but I'm always a bit leery of girls who are the hot fave. I reckon you often do better with the ones who AREN'T pulling four or five or how many clients a day. You've got to get the right balance there.
Went down to Berlian. On a Sunday evening, the pickings were pretty grim. Even so, it was quite okay to have a beer at the bar and hang out with a couple of girls there, even if they weren't my type: skinny Indramayu chicks with shaved eyebrows. I paid for my beer and left a tenner each for the girls I'd hung out with, which they snapped up with any false embarrassment or modesty. Always a good tactic to establish a reputation as a tipper, even on a preliminary skirmish.
I've got to say, I'd always choose Berlian over Kartika, and that experience proves my point. Yeah, I know these places are in the business of encouraging customers who actually want a shag, but you've got to look long-term, and make the place okay to hang out in for people who may just be window shopping, but who may well come back in the future.
[QUOTE=Cooze Hound]Remember also that many girls are savvy enough to look in your bookmarks and history sections of the browser, they are incredibly nosy at the best of times and what may start innocently enough can develop into a full blown snoop session.
Personally I have an old laptop available for girls that come around and like to have a play, they never get near my main computer.
It works on another level too, quite a few freebies from girls that ask if they can come over during the day and check their Yahoo, MSN etc. I recommend it ![/QUOTE]
Also an option is to have more than one web browser installed. I let girls use IE but do all my stuff with Firefox.
Also, you can partition your HD and have two Windows installations.
[QUOTE=Liondale]Also an option is to have more than one web browser installed. I let girls use IE but do all my stuff with Firefox.
Also, you can partition your HD and have two Windows installations.[/QUOTE]
You can just add another user login to your computer for a guest that doesn't have admin rights. That way they can't get to your "my documents" folder at all. They have their own explorer settings, separate from yours.
[QUOTE=Adam see Day]Any update? [/QUOTE]I am happy to see that some are enjoying the service of Don that I introduced a few weeks ago.
Here is a deeper review of the service I received from the getting-famous Miss D. (ian)
So I was stuck in my hotel room and not in the mood to go clubbing or hunting in bars, I decided to call Mr Don to inquire about this service. As I mentioned in my previous post he was nice enough to accomodate my late request (it was almost midnight). I would advice to call and book early, as the service operate from noon to midnight (if I am correct) and Mr Don emphasis that he doest want his girls to be too tired and give a not perfect massage. That's a good point. Maybe in the future, he should consider have a night team group of girls, if there is demand for late massage.
Back to the story, within 30 minutes, Don drove to my hotel himself the girl who was going to massage. I was really surprised by the youth of prettiness of my girl, Miss D.
I was expecting older girl since the service is oriented on quality massage, so I was surprised to see that super pretty thin early 20s girl at the door. I though at this time that the quality of the massage will be affected, but I was wrong. Miss D was wearing a tight dress with a kind of a thin pant under it, high heels who made look her quite elegant and not at all sluttly, always a good point when you stay in a nice hotel.
Miss D spoke enough english to make introduction and excused herself to go to the bathroom. She came out in a different outfit, a very light, sleeveless mini dress who were highlighthing her very thin figure and very beautiful long legs. Latter I understood that the mini dress is to not oil the real clothes during the massage, but it also adds a sexy and intimate touch to the experience. Always nice to feel a warm leg near mine during the massage.
So Miss D set up the bed by covering it with towels and asked me to lie down naked on it.
As I said before, the quality of the massage is stunning! After chatting with Miss D. I found out she was trained by a Thai master in Bali. The massage is deep and strong enough, serious and sensual in a natural way as the whole process is not aiming to arouse you sexually but really to make you relax even if of course you are more likely to have an hard on during the whole process, especially while the girl is massage your buttock, legs or lower front part.
The massage went for almost two hours, the girl asking to lie down on your back after the first hour and even if obviously she can see your hard on, continue the whole process from head to toes.
After she finished the "serious massage" she gave me a nice smile which I returned and indicated her my hard part.
As it was not really clear in the Mr Don ads, I was not sure if I would receive a hand job or a BJ, but full of the bliss of the massage, I didn't really cared much and was expecting Miss D to give me a wank.
But to my surprise, she went straight down on me and put my tool in her mouth. At this point I was already surprised with the massage skill and now with her BJ skill. I doubt that the Thai massage master also teach BJ skill, but we should find out how she was trained as this little thing knew many tricks, including balls sucking, deep throat and the likes. It was also nice of her to start it quite slowly and make it last quite a long time, she knew what she was doing and was able to keep control to not make me cum too soon. After a while it was a wonderful cim and she went at it a few more minutes before excusing herself into the bathroom to clean herself.
I left her a small tips who was welcome and had a nice sleep with a big smile on my face. A professional massage plus a deluxe BJ made me an happy man.
Two days latter, I had an second encounter with the same girl. This time, as it was Sunday I guess, she came in casual clothes, kind of streetware fashion and she was still hot and cute. She got changed in her tiny dress ready to massage me. There were no problem for her to execute my request to start with the BJ first (made me horny at first sight in her tiny dress) and then the massage. Maybe she agreed because I was a repeat customer, this service is maybe not possible for 1st timer. Once again, first class BJ which ended in CIM.
Another 2 hours of massage bliss and I was hard again. At this point, I really wanted to fuck this tiny hot girl, but she motioned to show me that she was having her period, damn!
Miss D happily went down at me to please me a second time with her mouth. A non stop 20 minutes BJ followed, I am still amazed today on how good this thin young lady with her mouth. She got a nice tips for that.
2 BJ and 2 hour of massage for my last night in jakarta was a nice treat and I am looking again to use this service for its convenience, the quality of the girl (I guess the others are on same quality) and the professional massage.
Highly recommanded.
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[QUOTE=Azerty1976]I am happy to see that some are enjoying the service of Don that I introduced a few weeks ago.
Here is a deeper review of the service I received from the getting-famous Miss D. (ian)
Highly recommanded.
[/QUOTE]
Azerty,
This looks very interesting. I tried sending a pm to you, but could not. Is there a way you can post the guidance to how I could contact this very helpful 'Mr Don' ?! Any help will be greatly appreciated.
[QUOTE=1Ball]I heard today from a realtor friend of mine, who claims to have inside information on just about everything, that the infamous anti porn law IS going to go into effect, nationwide, EXCEPT for Bali. I was under the impression it had been put on the back burners, and was going to die a quiet death, which is what it should do.
Apparently, this is going to happen, and it is going to happen within the next 2 years. Of course, I have no idea if this person is reliable or not.
Thoughts ?[/QUOTE]
He's a real estate agent talking out of his arse, a bar bigmouth. The porno bill hasn't even got to the stage of officially being a bill yet. The parliament is shunting around on it, some changes made. And as for coming into effect, except in Bali...cowdung...never trust what a real estate agent says about the law! That's impossible under the Indonesian legal system.
It may get passed, but more likely, because everyone can't agree on anything, the bill will be forgotten in true Javanese style.....As for the Playboy case, that was launched under the existing law, so what difference will any new law make?
[QUOTE=Road Lover]Azerty,
This looks very interesting. I tried sending a pm to you, but could not. Is there a way you can post the guidance to how I could contact this very helpful 'Mr Don' ?! Any help will be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]Go to the Reports of Distinction section and look for "Best Thai Massage" by Daniel Steel and click on the advise of Azerty. That's where I got the contact number of Mr. Don. Seems I wasn't as lucky on this Dian lady as the others were though, unless there are 2 Dians.
No pictures or contact info?
[QUOTE=Smoothy]No pictures or contact info?[/QUOTE]
And also rates please.
JKT by night
Hi Friends. Again, thanks to all reporting to this forum. Was very helpful.
Arriving in Jakarta on a Saturday night, I directly headed for BATS at the Shangrila. Wow, what a croud. So many so nice girls. I thought I was in heaven. Obviously, the Indonesian girls are my style ;-)
So walking around, I found just too many girls attracting me, so I had to decide. I approached a shy one and started chatting finally coming to the costs. 1.1 Million. Sorry, one night, not a week. But she insists. Well, as far as I remember the beer was also 55k Rupia. Why shouldn’t girls be expensive as well. But I learned from reading the ISG. SO I took my taxi to Top Gun. Actually, the atmosphere is not comparable to BATS, but some also nice girls there. I could not decide. SO sometimes I am really picky. Finally, already 3am, I approached a small dark skinned one. Her name is Ruby, not smoking, not drinking and likes to go with me. We agree on 400k and of we go.
The night was nice, very GFE but she did not do any BJ and I did not ask for one. Speaks good English. Has a small boy and her husband left when the kid was 3 month old. Did it three times and she seams to like it longtime. Also fingered here around 30 minutes and she enjoyed it, would not let me stop. Ask her number and take her down to taxi.
Age: 24
Weight: 41kg
Height: 155cm
Looks: 7/10, dark skinned, great boobs!!
Attitude: 7/10
Damage: 400+100
So next day I checked the Atrium Plaza Mall. Hm, either there is no girls or they look ugly. I found some with heavy buts and more outside at the taxi area (leaving the taxi area to the left from inside around 12 girls hanging around). Nothing for me.
So decided to go to CJ. 70k Rupia for a beer, poor band, fancy design, too cold and ugly ladies. Soon I decided to take a cab to Tp Gun again. Entered My Bar at first. Very few guests, so crossed the street to TopGun. Was approached by a nice looking one. Her name “Any” (spoken like Arnie). She asked 250 plus taxi fee, so off we went.
She gave me a good massage. Really, surprisingly good and I know what I am talking about. Then turned me around, made me hotter, sucked my dick BB and then I turned her on her back. Sucking her nipples madder her crazy. She was even more sensitive at her neck. She almost dragged me in without rubber, but I stopped this. The f*ck was wild. Very wild. Never it was wild like this and maybe 45 minutes of time nothing else. We need to recover.
When she want’s to leave I remember her that I promised her a massage as well. She agrees and obviously enjoys. I finally start licking her and a few minutes later she insists “make love”. Ok, I always try m best. We do any position and after 1 hour the rubber burns ignoring her wetness. I have to stop – cannot come. Ask her number and take her down to taxi. Staff of the hotel seams to be impressed by her looks. Two guys in the elevator ask me “Wow, where did you get this girl from”.
Age: 25
Weight: 39kg
Height: 157cm
Looks: 8/10, Chinese type
Attitude: 9/10
Damage: 250+100
Next Friday I check all the bars: Oscar (OK), My Bar (much too crowded and too dark), Top Gun (as usual) and G String (almost empty). I cannot decide. I just saw a girl in Oscar who has this “Andie MacDowell” eyes. Really, must be her sister. When I go back, cannot find her. Move around from bar to bar, and accidentally find her in Oscar again. She likes to come with me for 500. Too much, but I have to.
Her face really great, but somehow she is strangely apathetic. Was wandering if she is a drug user? She claims to be dancer only, paid by the bar, normally not going with men. Has 6 year old boy. Thinks she is so beautiful and behaves like this. Was ok, but definitely not the best choice. Take her down to taxi next day at around 1pm. She says she has to buy ticket to get to her boy. Didn’t I read this fake in this forum before. Anyway, was happy to see her leaving. Did not ask for her number.
Age: 27 (according to her, but I do not believe)
Weight: 37kg
Height: 160cm
Looks: 7/10 (body showing sings of age)
Attitude: 7/10
Damage: 450+50
Saturday I try to call Ruby, but a man picks the phone. Hm, should I ask for Ruby? Better not.
Later at night I call Any, but she is already sleeping. So we agree on next day. Suddenly she asks: you know the price? I say yes, 300, but she asks 1 Million. What happened? No way I tell her. We agree on 450.
I call at 10, she comes at 12. Another wild wild f*ck, but just one and then she leaves. Expected more from here, but anyway, why should I complain? She is really the hottest f*ck I ever had.
Of the 3 girls I think that for a frequent, Ruby would be the best choice. She is most friendly and that matters with time.
I was not that happy about the hotel booked by my company, as it is far away from the city – consuming time and money. Staf was girl friendly, even chatting with the girls and giving comments on the quality of my selection later on.
The girls want to be taken down for taxi, as they expect hotel security to ask for passport and ask special fees from them. So why not do this favour for the ladies?
At all I must say that Jakarta is a good place for this hobby, but there is better places in countries near by.
Keep a copy of your passport and visa with you. Otherwise police stops will ask for “administration fees” or offer a night in prison. Had to pay 50k to get rid of them. Better do not take your passport with you. Once they have it, they probably ask more for return.
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[QUOTE=Ding Ding]Her name is Ruby, not smoking, not drinking and likes to go with me. We agree on 400k and of we go.
The night was nice, very GFE but she did not do any BJ and I did not ask for one. Speaks good English. Has a small boy and her husband left when the kid was 3 month old. Did it three times and she seams to like it longtime. Also fingered here around 30 minutes and she enjoyed it, would not let me stop. Ask her number and take her down to taxi.
Age: 24
Weight: 41kg
Height: 155cm
Looks: 7/10, dark skinned, great boobs!!
Attitude: 7/10
Damage: 400+100[/QUOTE]
Well Ruby is certainly a sweet girl and you can usually find her early on in the evening downstairs in D's Place.
You sir are very generous, it's not every night Ruby can get half a million, you should have let her husband/boyfriend/pimp/ojek driver know who you were when you called; he'd have sent her out in a taxi to you in double quick time if he'd known she had such a kindhearted client.
But what really interests me about your post are the rather exact measurements (39kg, 157cm etc) do you keep a scale and a measuring tape in your hotel room?
[QUOTE=Ding Ding]
I was not that happy about the hotel booked by my company, as it is far away from the city – consuming time and money. Staf was girl friendly, even chatting with the girls and giving comments on the quality of my selection later on.
[/QUOTE]
Good report mate, one thing though how do you define City with Jakarta? Unless you were at the airport you were probably in the city, as it could be anywhere from Blok M to Kota and to a dozen other places all around. For mongering in particular there is no real central place so you need to get used to taxi's or the busway(s) which are also pretty good.
[QUOTE=Jc373]Good report mate, one thing though how do you define City with Jakarta? Unless you were at the airport you were probably in the city, as it could be anywhere from Blok M to Kota and to a dozen other places all around. For mongering in particular there is no real central place so you need to get used to taxi's or the busway(s) which are also pretty good.[/QUOTE]Sure, big cities require time. Especially with such poor public transportation.
City is where the girls are ;-), so I define 30 minutes by taxi from Block M at 3am to hotel is far. Not to mention 60-100 mins to get there at 9pm.
To give some more input: all the girls liked kissing, all very clean (showe before and after the act). Just the way it should be.
Only the fact that if you spend much energy on foreplay, that they tend to cry for beeing intruded no longer thinking of rubber protection, scares me. I control myself, but who of the other fellow mongers does so?
[QUOTE=Dorman]Well Ruby is certainly a sweet girl and you can usually find her early on in the evening downstairs in D's Place.
You sir are very generous, it's not every night Ruby can get half a million, you should have let her husband/boyfriend/pimp/ojek driver know who you were when you called; he'd have sent her out in a taxi to you in double quick time if he'd known she had such a kindhearted client.
But what really interests me about your post are the rather exact measurements (39kg, 157cm etc) do you keep a scale and a measuring tape in your hotel room?[/QUOTE]I know I spent too much. Sorry for this friends, but beeing short in time resticts the chances of good bargains. And compared to other countries.
She also has to spend at least 70,000 to get back from the hotel. She was with me till 4pm next day, so we had chance for 3 rounds. Price included tip.
No, I am not a measuring pervert ;-) The facts are just what the girls told me. The one I did not ask for her name was definitely lying about her age. Her skin tells the difference. The others I am not sure, as I do not have enough material from Indonesia to compare with.
Ruby speaks very good english, so anybody who likes to chat as well, is well recommended to go for her. Any funnily speaks in 3rd person about herself, like "Any can go washing?". Anway, easy to comminicate with.
btw: I already left Asia.
So wish you good hunting in JKT!
[QUOTE=Ding Ding]Keep a copy of your passport and visa with you. Otherwise police stops will ask for “administration fees” or offer a night in prison. Had to pay 50k to get rid of them. Better do not take your passport with you. Once they have it, they probably ask more for return.[/QUOTE]
How long were you in Jakarta? That can happen, but I've lived in Jakarta 7 years now and I've been stopped for that one time in the entire 7 years.
Ding Ding,
I think your Top Gun Arnie is this Indramayu girl with a Japanese biological father. It has been said he died in an accident in Jakarta. No surprise, he chose to stay in Jakarta.
It is very common families in this particular city to send their daughters to work. This city is a major player in supplying girls to major cities in Indonesia.
Those f*cks might change your life forever. I just hope you did it covered. I think she will be very happy to raise your daughter (tend to look exotic under local perspective) and send her to work one day, as Indramayu girls in Blok M are more sophisticated than the one at Kota area.
No offense meant. Your well being is my concern!
JAKARTA AFTER DARK
Smoothy I used to stay in Kota and come home with a nice take away and regularly get stopped by the Army! not cops and yep pasport please
and 50+ to get home and hes right the option is the threat of prison
a couple of dumb arse rich guys paid USD 200 so my hotel told me when I complained Needless to say Im at the Hilton these days
That can happen, but I've lived in Jakarta 7 years now and I've been stopped for that one time in the entire 7 years.[/QUOTE]
Stopped by Berlian Spa the other afternoon and was finally able to hook up with Ina. This is the first time that I've seen here since before Christmas. I had stopped by a few times since then but she either had not yet come into work (she usually comes to work late afternoon) or was on one of her monthly days off.
Her face looked great as always (by Berlian standards), but unfortunately she's gained at least 5 kgs. or more since I last saw her, and she was medium build before, so anyone who meets her for the first time might be surprised that I had raved about her in the past (when she was thinner).
Despite the extra weight, I had another great session with her, lots of fun as always. And her tits, while somewhat small, are still firm as she's never had a baby even though she's getting close to 30.
On my way out, I checked to see if Yossy, the girl Menteng and I had discussed in posts a couple of weeks ago, was on duty (I had not looked for her when I first came in to look for Ina). Yossy was on duty, but busy with a client - an ISG guy?
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No photos of Ina to post, but if you're moving around town, you might notice a new billboard ad for a green tea drink, with a fairly attractive girl's face in the ad. Add a bit of weight to the face, and you've got Ina.
[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]Yossy was on duty, but busy with a client - an ISG guy?[/QUOTE]
Yes, it was probably me. Still no luck with the oral though.
Maybe I should give Ina a shot.
(Just kidding about Yossy.)
OK about time I contributed here having benefited from the advice of so many. Visited Classic in Pasar Baru recently with some success; 350K in bar for 1 hr in room full service. Found a girl who could speak English who recommended her friend. Took them both and had the time of my life. Hard to beat two girls exercising their tongues over every inch of you. Mami Novi looked after (most of! ) my requests. Next day went to Emporium. Locals 500 or 800 based on someones subjective assessment of looks / service and Chinese for 1. 5 Million. New I shouldnt, but was tempted into taking the cutest little Chinese girl who sucked like a trooper, standard ice, fire treatment and even blew me while hanging upside down. Mmmmm! FJ in several std positions before finishing off with another BJ without CIM. However in hindsight wish I'd taken 3 locals at 500 each, LOL!
Golf on the weekend now has me smsing with course cutie who am dying to meet. Fingers crossed, stay tuned.
Happy Hunting
Frankie
Dear seniors and members of ISG,
I am new in the forum and will be in Jakarta next week for business and leisure.
Seriously hope that can have some help from the seniors and members here.
I have read the thread and found that places are really new to me as I am first time in Jakarta.
Can anyone kind enough to share some FL info.
Regards
[QUOTE=Frankie555].... Next day went to Emporium. Locals 500 or 800 based on someones subjective assessment of looks / service and Chinese for 1. 5 Million. New I shouldnt, but was tempted into taking the cutest little Chinese girl who sucked like a trooper, standard ice, fire treatment and even blew me while hanging upside down. Mmmmm! ...[/QUOTE]
:-) and there were howls of protest when i paid 1.5mil for the favours of Goddess Bella ???
Hey Frankie - make sure you take pics with Bella and tell her I said hi :-)
[QUOTE=Whiteant]Dear seniors and members of ISG,
I am new in the forum and will be in Jakarta next week for business and leisure.
Seriously hope that can have some help from the seniors and members here.
I have read the thread and found that places are really new to me as I am first time in Jakarta.
Can anyone kind enough to share some FL info.
Regards[/QUOTE]Jakarta is a very complicated city. Do not try it alone. Pay a consultant to show you the ropes and take you to safe and secure locations. One bad mistake is not worth the dissapointments.
Or meet a lady online and have her meet you and take care of you. Only drawback is that you are commited to 1 woman. But she will still cost you the same price as JAD.
Party well and prosper.
JL
[QUOTE=WhiteAnt]Dear seniors and members of ISG,
I am new in the forum and will be in Jakarta next week for business and leisure.
Seriously hope that can have some help from the seniors and members here.
I have read the thread and found that places are really new to me as I am first time in Jakarta.
Can anyone kind enough to share some FL info.
Regards[/QUOTE]
Since you're a newbie and can't make head or tail of the many posts here, Robert Long is spot on in asking you to take a tour with JAD 2 (Jakarta After Dark 2) especially if you're likely to come back to Jakarta or will be here for a while and have the time. Good luck.
MD II
[QUOTE=Mango Jango]:-) and there were howls of protest when i paid 1.5mil for the favours of Goddess Bella ???
[/QUOTE]
The thing is, you paid 1.5mil where you could have paid far less.
The place Frankie visited has a fixed price-tag for the girls. Hell, I even know of a place where the minimum price is 4 mil.
[QUOTE=Ding Ding]Sure, big cities require time. Especially with such poor public transportation.
City is where the girls are ;-), so I define 30 minutes by taxi from Block M at 3am to hotel is far. Not to mention 60-100 mins to get there at 9pm.
Only the fact that if you spend much energy on foreplay, that they tend to cry for beeing intruded no longer thinking of rubber protection, scares me. I control myself, but who of the other fellow mongers does so?[/QUOTE]
Ding Ding,
That certainly seems to be some distance at 3am. What was the name of your hotel. Please bear in mind that Blok M is hardly the centre of tthe city as far as "daylight business" is concerned so perhaps your company didn't take it into consideration;).
With regards to the girls losing control, this is the norm for Jakarta and you will almost always have to have your own condoms (very few girls will have their own). It is a matter of your own control and choice. There are some among us who prefer to go BB all the way but that's an individual choice.
[QUOTE=Smoothy]How long were you in Jakarta? That can happen, but I've lived in Jakarta 7 years now and I've been stopped for that one time in the entire 7 years.[/QUOTE]
Smoothy,
You're a lucky guy. I've probably been to Jakarta for about 30 trips of between 2 - 7 nights. In all this time, I've been stopped 4 times. Of these I was in taxis twice and private cars twice. each time the cost was between 50k to 200k (can't account for the difference - must have been the mood of the guys on duty).
[QUOTE=Smoothy]Yes, it was probably me. Still no luck with the oral though.QUOTE]
Maybe you should see if she has a nice BIG smile first:D.
[QUOTE=Mango Jango]:-) and there were howls of protest when i paid 1.5mil for the favours of Goddess Bella ???QUOTE]
Perhaps not all found her to be a Godess??:) Also take note that imported Chinese command a premium here - partly because they are a rarity, partly because they have to be imported. That's a higher risk here as they can hardly blend with the crowd. Similar reasons why Russians are expensive here.
MD II
[QUOTE=Ding Ding]Sure, big cities require time. Especially with such poor public transportation.
City is where the girls are ;-), so I define 30 minutes by taxi from Block M at 3am to hotel is far. Not to mention 60-100 mins to get there at 9pm.
Only the fact that if you spend much energy on foreplay, that they tend to cry for beeing intruded no longer thinking of rubber protection, scares me. I control myself, but who of the other fellow mongers does so?[/QUOTE]
Ding Ding,
That certainly seems to be some distance at 3am. What was the name of your hotel. Please bear in mind that Blok M is hardly the centre of tthe city as far as "daylight business" is concerned so perhaps your company didn't take it into consideration;). Btw what was the name of your hotel? (Just curious)
With regards to the girls losing control, this is the norm for Jakarta and you will almost always have to have your own condoms (very few girls will have their own). It is a matter of your own control and choice. There are some among us who prefer to go BB all the way but that's an individual choice.
[QUOTE=Smoothy]How long were you in Jakarta? That can happen, but I've lived in Jakarta 7 years now and I've been stopped for that one time in the entire 7 years.[/QUOTE]
Smoothy,
You're a lucky guy. I've probably been to Jakarta for about 30 trips of between 2 - 7 nights. In all this time, I've been stopped 4 times. Of these I was in taxis twice and private cars twice. each time the cost was between 50k to 200k (can't account for the difference - must have been the mood of the guys on duty).
[QUOTE=Smoothy]Yes, it was probably me. Still no luck with the oral though.
[/QUOTE]
Maybe you should see if she has a nice BIG smile first:D.
[QUOTE=Mango Jango]:-) and there were howls of protest when i paid 1.5mil for the favours of Goddess Bella ???
[/QUOTE]
Perhaps not all found her to be a Godess??:) Also take note that imported Chinese command a premium here - partly because they are a rarity, partly because they have to be imported. That's a higher risk here as they can hardly blend with the crowd. Similar reasons why Russians are expensive here.
MD II
I don't know why you are paying these corrupt cops off. I simply tell them they are playing around with the wrong person. I have contacts the United States embassy and whip out my cell phone and start like I am calling. I also ask for their names or if not, go and find some Id on the cars, and promptly tell them that they will be identified. Each time. Some discussion and then they let me go. Just be firm. "act impotent. Look impotent"! As we say.
[QUOTE=Master Diver II]Ding Ding,
That certainly seems to be some distance at 3am. What was the name of your hotel. Please bear in mind that Blok M is hardly the centre of tthe city as far as "daylight business" is concerned so perhaps your company didn't take it into consideration;). Btw what was the name of your hotel? (Just curious)
With regards to the girls losing control, this is the norm for Jakarta and you will almost always have to have your own condoms (very few girls will have their own). It is a matter of your own control and choice. There are some among us who prefer to go BB all the way but that's an individual choice.
Smoothy,
You're a lucky guy. I've probably been to Jakarta for about 30 trips of between 2 - 7 nights. In all this time, I've been stopped 4 times. Of these I was in taxis twice and private cars twice. each time the cost was between 50k to 200k (can't account for the difference - must have been the mood of the guys on duty).
Maybe you should see if she has a nice BIG smile first:D.
Perhaps not all found her to be a Godess??:) Also take note that imported Chinese command a premium here - partly because they are a rarity, partly because they have to be imported. That's a higher risk here as they can hardly blend with the crowd. Similar reasons why Russians are expensive here.
MD II[/QUOTE]
SB3, I think you mean important, not impotent.. would it be impotent they'll possibly let you off the hook because they feel sorry for you. But still, I don't see a point in looking important over a lousy 5 bucks - 50k. These police guys have families too..
Guys,
This fact has already been well documented on this forum but I was given a vivid reminder of it last night. Went to an opening party last night in a high-end club and bumped into my regular dressed up to the nines. Now, she was doing nothing wrong you would say, except that she being a two-kind mum claims to be always taking care of her kids, never going out, "good girl" etc. Yeah,right... Again I did not catch her in any wrongful act, but the mere fact that she was there in a best outfit and looking like she was out for the kill (vs the "mum at home" story she portrays to me) confirms the reality of the situation in JKT: never trust'em. My conclusion is reinforced by the fact that I met this girl thru business contacts, she has a regular job which gives her a 6.5 M Rp salary a month etc so definitely not the type of "naughty" girl I met in a "naughty" club or looking to complement a miserable income.
Live and Learn !
[QUOTE=Maaars]Re: Daniel Steele
I guess young Don is doing some good business from ISG. Same experience as Dan here with exactly the same modus operandi for the girl (cute little 21 yo, called Dian) but couldn't stop at the blow job! Asked her how much to finish off the massage "properly" and she said 500k. Sorry, but she was worth it just for her cute little pussy alone! Got her number for dinner tomoro night so stand by for some pics if she lets me this time.[/QUOTE]Hi Maaars,
Any update?
We are all awaiting for the report and the pics.
Cheers
Yesterday was the grand opening of the Blackpearl in Senayan -- a new high-end bar/lounge a la Dragonfly. Obviously too early to call how good this place will be. Obviously also unlikely to become a pick-up joint a la CJ's, however could be a good place to meet some high-end chicks and bang them soon afterwards (courting here is rarely a several weeks/months affair like in the West, as we all know) so the bang could come pretty fast for those who can afford to have one date before the shag.
A place to be put on the watch-list.
I was approached by some freelancers recently at CJ's and prices initially quoted are usually in the 600-700kRP these days. Obviously this price has to be then negotiated, and depending on the time of the night and cock to **** ratio on that very evening, prices can drop significantly or stay firm. I personally can't be bothered to P4P at CJ's since there are many genuine girls who are here to have fun and ready for a shag but do not require $$
[QUOTE=Joel Goodsen]SB3, I think you mean important, not impotent.. would it be impotent they'll possibly let you off the hook because they feel sorry for you. But still, I don't see a point in looking important over a lousy 5 bucks - 50k. These police guys have families too..[/QUOTE]I agree with Joel, they need to feed their family. But you should be stern and let them know that next time you will not put up with this bullshit. Just laugh it off with them and pass over the 50,000, and go.
RL
[u]6th floor[/u] : the management decided that girls scooped up by police in a raid had to pay part of of the ransom money out of their own pocket. Therefore some of the best girls prefer no longer to work there. They only get 200 thousand out of each client so having to pay 2 million to get free from a raid sets them back 10 clients. Girls caught in a raid are kept for a week in near-prison conditions and given lectures and teachings about cooking, sowing and how to be a good (muslim) housewife. One girl told me how she escaped by hiding in a rat and mosquitoe-infested cellar in Melawai and leaning on the door with another girl while the police banged on it. Both girls were wise enough to switch off their handphones not to arouse the cops' suspicion further. Eventually they dressed up as a Melawai employees to be able to get out unnoticed (the cops still kept watch outside the hotel to catch any girl sneaking out in sexy outfit). Still, I was impressed by Maribaya's morning shift. The place is still worth a visit. The feeling is that bules keep away because of the raids. It would be a good idea to give the place some custom now if we don't want it to close for good. Also, the girls are instructed to be on the look out for pic takers and would-be journalists because journalists often accompany the raiding cops to report the raids in the local rags.
[u]Jalan Industri 9/11[/u] : the place is just behind Sheraton Media Hotel. Have a Silver Bird on stand-by because the street is a small one with little or no taxi traffic. You will see "9/11" (not a muslim's idea of a joke, the house number) painted bright white on the wall. Go down into the parking lot, then walk up any of the stairs leading up from the parking lot. You will emerge into a kind of courtyard with ground floors on all sides holding between 2 and 7 girls. Quoted prices between 170 and 200 thousand. Amenities are basic (comparable to Sierra in Magga Bessar 7 or Paripurna in Hayam Wuruk, for those who know these places). Girls are second choice, many are overweight (for my taste) and have more vulgar faces than at higher market places like Sari Ayu or Hotel Travel, but they seem keein on giving good service and it's as good a place as any to "slum it". I had an older (early 30) and taller girl called "Tiara". She has only been working for 4 months after being kicked out with two children she had to provide for by her husband who has 3 other wives. She said prostitution has at least given her some sexual satisfaction because her husband had neglected her all these years. She was amazed that some men younger than herself paid her for sex, something she had hirtherto believed was impossible. The stories you hear in JKT are fascinating though sometimes a bit sad.
[u]Stadium[/u] 3rd floor has gone down. I was there twice and twice the fish tank was empty. There were only a few girls on the sofas near the reception. 4th floor still has a good assortment of no-fuss (no condom) beauties. If you're stingy, you can avoid the 35 thousand entrance fee if you come just after the mamasans and the girls arrive (at around 8 thirty). One mamasan let me take my pick from the make-up room. I recommend sitting downstairs between 8 and 9 eating fried calamares while watching the arriving girls walking the corridor to the elevator. I was again told most girls in Stadium are there to pay off a debt contracted by their family. Family borrows 30 jutas from the gang, then best-looking daughter goes to stadium until she's brought the gang 30 jutas plus interest. To Westerners, it may seem horrendous to pawn your best-looking daughter to pay off a debt but having an ex-husband pay alimony all his life to the man-hater he was married to for a few months is just as horrific.
The best-looking girls are now found, in my view, in Royal. Next month they may have been moved to Sari Ayu or MTR, anyway those places are all Indramayu colonies and are to be visited one after the other for comparison. In Royal there's a girl called Agues I give a 10. She's usually unavailable but try to have a look at her to see what my idea is of a 10.
A girl many of us knew from Maribaya is now 7-month pregnant. I asked a friend of hers whether her Indramayu family were very unhappy about her being thus out of business for months. "Not if it's a girl" was the answer. Indramayu people hate it when it's a boy but a girl is a "berlian", a jewel that will bring money in the future. Who said all 3rd-world women were biased against female births? Women in China and India should take their cue from Indramayu.
[QUOTE=Mandiri]Guys,
This fact has already been well documented on this forum but I was given a vivid reminder of it last night. Went to an opening party last night in a high-end club and bumped into my regular dressed up to the nines. Now, she was doing nothing wrong you would say, except that she being a two-kind mum claims to be always taking care of her kids, never going out, "good girl" etc. Yeah,right... Again I did not catch her in any wrongful act, but the mere fact that she was there in a best outfit and looking like she was out for the kill (vs the "mum at home" story she portrays to me) confirms the reality of the situation in JKT: never trust'em. My conclusion is reinforced by the fact that I met this girl thru business contacts, she has a regular job which gives her a 6.5 M Rp salary a month etc so definitely not the type of "naughty" girl I met in a "naughty" club or looking to complement a miserable income.
Live and Learn ![/QUOTE]I somehow miss your point! Being dressed well is cause for mistrust?
Is having 'two-kind' (did you mean two kid?) wrong?
I'll live to learn. Pray tell.
[QUOTE=Necro24]I somehow miss your point! Being dressed well is cause for mistrust?
Is having 'two-kind' (did you mean two kid?) wrong?
I'll live to learn. Pray tell.[/QUOTE]The point is: if you think you can trust your Jakarta girlfriend to be faithful, think again. As soon as you are out of town (in my case), she'll be looking for other guys.
Hello,
I will be in Jakarta soon. Does anyone know wher to find the beautiful young and high class caucasian girls?
Thanks a lot
[QUOTE=Totobiscot]Hello,
I will be in Jakarta soon. Does anyone know wher to find the beautiful young and high class caucasian girls?
Thanks a lot[/QUOTE]
If you are looking for white women, you are going to be visiting the wrong country. I suggest you take a liking to Indonesian girls or go without.
If you really want white women, you can go to Sumo Massage in Kelapa Gading. But the price is about triple that of a similar quality indonesian girl.
[QUOTE=Mandiri]The point is: if you think you can trust your Jakarta girlfriend to be faithful, think again. As soon as you are out of town (in my case), she'll be looking for other guys.[/QUOTE]
She just might be as faithful as you are :D
[QUOTE=Totobiscot]Hello,
I will be in Jakarta soon. Does anyone know wher to find the beautiful young and high class caucasian girls?
Thanks a lot[/QUOTE]
rtff.. in "search this thread" type "1001", "Alexis", "Malioboro", "Sumo" or simply "russian". As per Smoothy's comment, be prepared to pay a relatively high price. cheers.
[QUOTE=Menteng]She just might be as faithful as you are :D[/QUOTE]He he he. Indeed Mr Menteng !
Day 1
After reading some of the experiences from previous forumers, all set for the first jakarta trip with another mongerer from KL. It is time for me to contribute some info to this forum and I hope it is useful to some readers here. Took early morning flight from LCCT(KL) and arrived in jakarta Soekarno-Hatta airport approx 8. 00am. As this will be my first post, kindly do pardon me if I may had written any incorrect information. I will just post the stuff I had gone through my entire trip. Landed at the airport as scheduled with just 2 hrs of flight and everything went quite smooth. The Jakarta airport customs is pretty smooth and quite easy to get bluebird taxi just outside the airport using meter. Taxi fee is approx 90K inslusive of toll charges. Went with a friend and checked in IBIS Kemayoran hotel at approx 9. 30am. Reach hotel, not allowed to check in yet as needed to wait until 12pm. Damn.decided to go to nearest Atrium Mall to buy SIm card. Bought Bebas SIM card and a jakarta city map, had Es Teller and headed back to hotel, not feeling to well but managed to check in at 12pm at the hotel.
Showered and took a short nap and meet up with another forumer down the hotel lobby and off we go to venture around Kartika and Berlian area. Took taxi and stop at Hotel Mercure Rekso. Super easy to find kartika as you walk a stonethrow away from the hotel and as soon as you see 'CFC' shop, turn left into the alley and you will see Kartika and Berlian neon signs. Suisse bakery is just before turning into the alley. For first timer, you might find it a little dodgy as you walk towards kartika. Walked in Kartika, approx 40-50 girls and a lot of big bobbies ladies waiting for be choosen. As reported in the forum, mamasan approach and said "250k massage and full service" Me and my friend went for a lady and headed upstairs for the action. My other friend went to another massage parlour just 2 shops away. We went up with both girls and into the small room with an attached bathtub and a bed. I would have to say the room is rundown and not so clean. Well, don't really care about the room condition and started off with a warmbody foam massage. Lie on the stomach, and the lady provide all sorts of titty and ass massaging all over my body. B2B massage lasts about 20 mins, then she provide an awesome BBBJ and a lot of balls licking and sucking. I told her I do not want intercourse for some reason as the BBBJ session is superb. Finished with BBBJCIM which lasted approx 40 mins! I can sense her jaw felt super tired. Paid 250K and 50K tip and off to Mangga Dua Mall for some food for dinner.
Went back for shower in hotel after dinner, off we went to CJ's in Hotel Mulia by cab. Paid 20K rupiah to taxi driver and entrance fee of 70K for Cj's with a drink of my choice. Tons of FL, mostly 7-8 ratings, a few 9's and enviroment is pretty nice with the band singing and dancing. Got phone number from the hottest chick (Febby) in CJ's IMHO. She looks fair, college type, young and very nice busty body. One huge titty lady grab my body and talked to me and introduce her friends to me but she wasnt my type as she looks too flirty and nasty but a lot of guys trying to hit on her and negotiate the price.
3 of us left Cj's and headed to Sands Disco in Novotel Hotel in Mangga Dua Mall I think? Not really a good place to be in as it is a Techno loud pumping disco. Very dark, could hardly see anything. Girls will approach you to buy them estasy pill and they will stay with you in the disco the whole night but not back to hotel. We spent about 90 mins or so and then back to hotel and get a good rest before preparing for tomorrow. Reach hotel at 4. 30am and felt very tried and sleepy.
FYI, the leading female hot singer in Cj's, you can get her for insanely 5 million rupiah for LT and 3 million for ST. One of the guy I met in Cj's asked her for the price.
DAY 2
Woke up lack of sleep at 10am, showered and off we went to Seaworld at Ancol Baycity area. Had lunch there, got a number from the pretty Chinese indo girl at the food stalls inside Seaworld. She looks very college type, very sweet and pretty. I would say she is genuinely hot and young. Her name is Susan and she can speak good english as she is uni graduate. Off we went to Mall Kelapa Gading for some shopping. Went back hotel and meet up with a really hot busty javanese chick whom I met from the net. Photo looks very tempting but real person looks unbelievably hot! Appointment with her at 12 midnight at stadium 4th floor (disco) but me and my 2 guy friends sat at Club 1001 for some chit chat before going in Stadium disco. BTW, CLUB 1001 is just beside the Stadium disco entrance. Got SMS from the busty chick, went in the complex and walk up floor by floor to the 4th floor instead of using the lift, loud music and the entrance itself is so damn packed. The busty chick came out to meet me, first thing I thought when I see her, DAMN. Freakin hot and sexy. All of us went in the disco but my 2 guy friends left the place in approx 30 mins and I was alone with the chick and her friends. Bought her some drinks and she was teasin me with her wild deep cleavage dancing moves and rubbing her huge delicious tits on my body and grinding her ass on my crotch. We sat at the corner of the disco and no one could see what we were doing. She gave me and mind blowing HJ and I squeeze her unbelievable hot D-cup tits. It very smoky inside and could hardly open my eyes. Only managed to noticed a few bules and mostly indo locals. Anyway, made appointment with that chick for tomorrow and can't wait for more action. Tons of ppl dancing on the stage in trance mode. The disco opens 24 hrs starting from Thursday-Sunday. BTW, the entrance fee is 50K rupiah and you can enter all 4 different floors without paying additional fee. Back at hotel around 3am, my friends bought newspaper "lampu merah" and tried to call some numbers but to no avail.
Name: Chi
Origin: Java
Skin: Brown
Age: 21
Height: About 5"1
Body: Very busty and deliously meaty, solid D cup
rating: 9.5/10 Tits, 7 Face, 9 Attitude
DAY 3
After slept at 4am and woke up at 11am, still buzzing from the alcohol comsumed at Stadium. Went to MONAS, nothing much to see, left the place shortly. Skipped National Museum and headed to Mall Taman Anggrek (largest mall in indonesia). The shopping mall is quite nice, 6 floors and located at West Jakarta. My friend got a phone number from one of the sales lady selling GQ clothes and she is indeed quite hot. Did some shopping and had had my dinner there off we went back to hotel. Went to Hard Cafe to meet up with that chick last night, wait for 15 mins inside Hard Rock Cafe, nothing much at 10pm. Live band not yet performing, mostly ppl eating and not a good place to pick up chicks. Finally the chick arrived and off we went to BATS at Shangrila hotel. Similiar to CJ's, paid entrance fee 70k and got a free drink. Found a table with nice sofa seat deep inside the bar. Band was already performing at 10. 45pm but not fully crowded yet. Tons of FL and mostly 7s and a few 8s. I would say Cj's chicks are hotter even on Thursday night. Well, maybe it is coincidence that Saturday night BATS don't have that much stunning chicks then Cj's. Anyway, my guy friend walk exploring the scene in BATS and trying to talk to some FLs but to no avail. Couple of chicks said her bfs are waiting for her in the room and did not managed to get phone number. While my friend is away from the table, my busty chick is slowly hugging me on the sofa table and stroking my dick while french kissing me all the time. She even let me kiss and lick her back and shoulders and arm and her neck and cleavage with some ppl looking and we just don't give a damn. Very few asian guy and mostly all bules with 90% of non indo Chinese FLs available that night. My guy friend came back to the table ocassionally and saw he partially making out and he was horny and desperately trying to hook up with a FL there. My busty javanese chick is wearing a super short skirt and it is bloddy easy to place my fingers in her panties and it is soaking wet. Damn! Massaging her clit and my fingers are soaking wet too. She had to take a break and she is having a hard time trying not to resume the session as she told me she was too horny and wet. Buy her another Long Island cost 120k! I told her I need to bang her straight away but she said why not try it in the toilet in BATS. I was like. WTF?
We went to the stairs near the toilet and waited for the BATS waiter to go off from the entrance of the toilet and we rush in the toilet swiftly but I was so scared someone working in BATS caught us. I was rock hard and she was eating my dick like a kitten in heat. I couldn't hold more then 3 mins, embarass I have to say but believe me, if you are in my situation, with her top down to her stomach and she is in squatting postion eating you, the sight of the tits are phenomenal! I had BBBJCIM in her mouth and I asked her to turn over in doggie position as I wanna see her pussy. Soaking wet it is, and I eat her good but I don't dare to bang her right there as I don't have any protection. SHIT! I went out of the toilet and called her phone once no one was outside the toilet entrance. Exciting yet risky getting caught. I think one of the management guys in BATS saw us doing some shit in there but I just walked off to see my friend as he was hugging a FL kissing away like a happy man. My busty chick told me she wants to go back to Stadium to meet her friends and ask me if I want ot follow along. I said NO as I want to check out the scene too in BATS. Send her away in silver bird taxi outside of Shangrila entrance and I went back to BATS and hanging around with my friend and his pickup FL. She looks like an average indo muslim lady, I would say average rating of 6 overall but asked for 1 million rupiah as usual but my friend bargain for 500K. She declined and asked for 700K for ST as it is already almost 2. 30am. I told my friend to leave her and search for other FL. Well, due to tomorrow early flight back to KL at 8am, we decided to head back to hotel and pack our luggage. Back to hotel, my friend sms the solid hot young FL(Febby) we met at CJ's one the first night. SMS quoted " Come to my hotel for 3 hrs, 500K". Less then 20 mins, she replied the sms twice and looks desperate as 3 missed calls as well. Spoke on the phone, she asked my friend to go fetch her at Hotel Mulia lobby but my friend was tired and decided to passed. Honestly, my next trip to jakarta, I will definitely hook up with the busty javanese chick again and this time will be a whole nighter banging all the way. She didn't asked for any money and a happy 2 nights with her companion. I will also call up the girl (Febby) met at Cj's for a session at least on my next trip.
Does anyone tried Febby before? Thanks again for all the info shared by the forumers here. I will post some photos of Kartika and some chicks and mall location later. Cheer and happy hunting.
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I am swiming in the deep sea already.
Its really a complicated city. At first rejected my associate offer on loaning me a driver and car. Now I am taking them after a taxi driver con me on taxi fare, imaging paying 50k fare which I used to pay 10K on first day yet I stay in a famous hotel. Will write FR after this.
Regards
WA
[QUOTE=Robert Long]Jakarta is a very complicated city. Do not try it alone. Pay a consultant to show you the ropes and take you to safe and secure locations. One bad mistake is not worth the dissapointments.
Or meet a lady online and have her meet you and take care of you. Only drawback is that you are commited to 1 woman. But she will still cost you the same price as JAD.
Party well and prosper.
JL[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Joel Goodsen]SB3, I think you mean important, not impotent.. would it be impotent they'll possibly let you off the hook because they feel sorry for you. But still, I don't see a point in looking important over a lousy 5 bucks - 50k. These police guys have families too..[/QUOTE]
I'm glad you cleared that one up Joel - I was struggling to think how to act and look impotent in Jakarta;)!
Pussy Master78,
This is indeed a fantastic report as a first timer. The lady Chi interest me as I have met a chi_chi on faceparty and is wondering if she is the same lady. If it is, I would indeed congratulate brother pussylover because she is very special indeed.
Dear Pussy Master 78,
Thanks for your report and your description of Chi is promising.
Any possibility you send even in private message which site you contacted in internet or phone number.
Any picture?
Thanks in advance
Visited "Emporium", a spa massage fs place. They have proper massage, or a choice to get straight on with the job. Selection of PRC (600,000) local girls (500,000) sitting in the bar area, waiting for selection. Inside a Glass walled room another selection of upmarket (1,300,000) girls. These fees are paid to the reception on departure, and cover the FS, and all facilities. I made my choice 18 Year Old local 500,000 and went into a clean, well set up room. Good choice as it turned out, enthusiastic performance not rushed, good BBBJ. tipped 50,000. I'd return. Can't remember name of the girl.
Ozirob
Bro Mojo,
Do you happen to still recall the names or keep the HP no of the caddies in modern, Bogor, Imperial, Jababeka and Rancamaya? Get invited to play either Bogoraya or Rancamaya next month.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Mojohojo]The caddies are somewhat 50-50 chance hit rate but only the caddy thats working for U. No cross selling, meaning can't work on your fren's caddies. Maybe caddies' house rules. Got a few willing to go back til next morning but have to close deal before end of your game. Don't hope on them coming to hotel by giving cab fare. That's free tips for them. Once you are done with your golf game pick them up at an agreed place. Had my share from Modern, Bogor, Imperial, Jababeka and Rancamaya. It's all in the way you nego with them and trust me, how we look is not really a factor as long as the deal is attractive. Say Rph500k + dinner and drinks. Best chances: Modern, Imperial, Jababeka (cikarang)
Waitress are much difficult and as our brother pointed out, it is normal for them to give out fon numbers but they hardly go out with the golfers, bules or asians. The locals hv better luck because they can provide better for them for a longer stretch of time (1 month or so). But suprisingly, if anybody can get them out in a group and you happen to be around for drinks, they have no problem with you getting in their pants for free. As long as they have the impression that they are not pick up at the golf club while they are working! Talk about principles! Had some good luck with Imperial and Cengkareng waitresses. They did not notice that we were golfers at thier club earlier. He he
Spa girls. Don't waste time because you are definitely gonna waste a lot of money for nothing to shout about.
Sorry for the rumbling, just wanna share my experience as a malaysian golfer in JKT.
Happy golfing!
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[QUOTE=Ozirob]Visited "Emporium", a spa massage fs place. They have proper massage, or a choice to get straight on with the job. Selection of PRC (600,000) local girls (500,000) sitting in the bar area, waiting for selection. Inside a Glass walled room another selection of upmarket (1,300,000) girls. These fees are paid to the reception on departure, and cover the FS, and all facilities. I made my choice 18 Year Old local 500,000 and went into a clean, well set up room. Good choice as it turned out, enthusiastic performance not rushed, good BBBJ. tipped 50,000. I'd return. Can't remember name of the girl.
Ozirob[/QUOTE]I went to Emporium recently too, but the experience was not so great. The girl was barely willing to give a HJ, and not much more on offer, after a lackluster massage. But I read other reports, and heard from a friend that it was just the girl I was given. Next time!
[QUOTE=Azerty1976]I am happy to see that some are enjoying the service of Don that I introduced a few weeks ago.
Here is a deeper review of the service I received from the getting-famous Miss D. (ian)
**** Miss D was wearing a tight dress with a kind of a thin pant under it, high heels who made look her quite elegant and not at all sluttly, always a good point when you stay in a nice hotel.
Miss D spoke enough english to make introduction and excused herself to go to the bathroom. She came out in a different outfit, a very light, sleeveless mini dress who were highlighthing her very thin figure and very beautiful long legs. Latter I understood that the mini dress is to not oil the real clothes during the massage, but it also adds a sexy and intimate touch to the experience. Always nice to feel a warm leg near mine during the massage.[/QUOTE]A great review.
Just curious: The little mini dress. Is it one with sort of a leopard spot pattern? And you can sort of see through it? I have been with one who had that dress, and can concur with your great assessment of her, but just wonder if it is the same girl!
[QUOTE=World Traveler]Has anyone on this board been able to rent an apartment in Jakarta (or anywhere else in Indonesia) for a couple of weeks during his visit? Are there any sources that you could share? I am also wondering if it would be possible to rent a room in a private house.[/QUOTE]Many of the major hotels have serviced apartments connected to the hotel. If they have any vacancies, they will go you space for as little as 2 weeks. The rates are higher for 2-12 weeks, and will be lower for 3 months or longer, as you might expect.
Was reading here about this place so decided to pay a visit.
The massage is on the second floor of the hotel.
You pay 80K for the VIP room - just simple but clean room and choose the girl from the book.
It was Monday night so the selection poor.
Choosed the best and waited in the room.
In came a fat and ugly mature woman that gave me a decent massage for 20-30 minutes.
Then she asked 500K for HJ - I didnt agree so quickly she came down to 200K.
I didnt agree and left.
Around 11:30 Pm I took a taxi to Mulia hotel to visit CJ.
Nice live band and a lot of freelancers - Good selection as always.
Oi was smiling to me - tall and smily girl.
We left to my hotel and spent the night.
Full GFE - 3 shots, she left at 0800, didnt mention money at all.
Earlier while she was showring, I put 400K inside her purse.
Great gal with great attitude.
The following anecdote gives us a reminder of a number of don’t do’s in Jakarta – and other places in SE Asia.
I met with one of my regulars the other night. This girl is typically a young girl having fun and looking for new experiences. She hangs out at CJ’s quite a bit lately, the place where I met her. Since then, I meet her every once in a while to spend the night together, which we both enjoy. This is pure sex experience, ie we never socialize outside of my bed (LOL !). All of this in a very GFE way, no money asked no money given. So an ideal scenario for most of us mongerers.
The other day she came and spent the night with me after having spent a couple of hours at CJ’s with a female friend of hers. She told me a guy hit on her big time, approached her, tried to pick her up and upon her refusing he insisted « but I will pay you money, don’t worry » several times. She was extremely shocked by this statement/offer and felt really insulted.
Bottom Line : Not all chicks at CJ’s etc are working girls. There are quite a few genuine girls going to CJ’s and such high-end bars to simply have fun with their friends, and if the right guy comes along, they will end up in bed with that guy.
Additionally, as a personal comment, I never ever mention the money issue myself at the bar or before going back to my room with a chick, since it is not always really obvious who these genuine chicks are vs WG’s, and also I’ve had many freebies from WG’s. If they want $$$, they will bring up the $$$ issue themselves. I personally think there is no need to bring up this issue – plus I find it a real turn-off.
Happy mongering in JKT !
[QUOTE=Explorerman]I went to Emporium recently too, but the experience was not so great. The girl was barely willing to give a HJ, and not much more on offer, after a lackluster massage. But I read other reports, and heard from a friend that it was just the girl I was given. Next time![/QUOTE]
Is there any chance that you could tell us the name of this girl who gave you lousy service at Emporium?
I might be going to Emporium soon, and it would help if I (and all other ISG members) knew her name, so that I could avoid her.
Thanks!
[QUOTE=WhiteAnt]I am swiming in the deep sea already.
Its really a complicated city. At first rejected my associate offer on loaning me a driver and car. Now I am taking them after a taxi driver con me on taxi fare, imaging paying 50k fare which I used to pay 10K on first day yet I stay in a famous hotel. Will write FR after this.
Regards
WA[/QUOTE]
Jakarta is not that complicated. Pussy Master 78 (post below) certainly figured it out, just read his report for a quick overview. Also, check out the reports referred to in the "Reports of Distinction" section.
To make it easy for you, here's a quick overview of some (but not all) of the good places:
[B]Mall Hunting:[/B] Go to the Atrium Mall, also read Bulai69's reports on this place. I've also had success at Plaza Semanggi, Plaza Indonesia, even mid-afternoon at Plaza Senayan.
Prices similar to the night-time spots below, many Atrium girls will settle for 200,000 to 250,000 rupiah for short-time. Only downside here is that many Atrium girls will speak very little English.
[B]Massage Places:[/B] Go to Kartika Spa, which features the Thai body-to-body wash massage, for 250,000 rupiah plus an expected 50,000 tip. This is the home of the famous Cynthia; there's also a 'returnee' girl to recommend here, Rista (pronounced "Krista"), who worked here in 2004 and early 2005, then left to have a baby, then just returned to work this month. Easily the tightest pussy I've ever found on any working girl in Jakarta - hard to believe she's given birth. Not GFE but very good service provider - great oral attention and cowgirl finish, just lie back and enjoy the show
Or try one of Kartika's two neighbors in the same alley, Berlian Spa and Royal Massage, similar pricing. Other nearby possibilities in this area include Hotel Travel, Today Country in Lokasari Plaza, Olympic and many others - just read the forum. Best recent post on these places was written by Jktnoobie on 1-28-2007, there's a link to it in the 'Reports of Distinction' section.
Or, go to Hotel Melawai in the Blok M area, take an elevator to the 6th Floor and visit the Maribaya Bar/Spa, 350,000 rupiah all-inclusive, no need to tip extra. This place opens by 10 or 11 a.m. and has two shifts of girls, day and evening shifts (change-over at 5 p.m.), lots of good choices on the day shift. My earlier favorite here, Tari, no longer works here, so ask for Evie
[B]Slightly lower end:[/B] Take a taxi to Jalan Industri 9-11 right behind the Sheraton (the Sheraton that's in town, not the one near the airport). There's a very recent report about this place, one page below. Should cost you 150,000 rupiah plus a small tip
[B]Slightly higher end:[/B] Go to Sumo Shaitsu Spa in Kelapa Gading, or else Emporium, or Beverley Spa in Kota (near the train station). Can cost you 500,000 to 1,500,000 rupiah. Many good reports have been written about these places during the last 12 months or so.
[B]Night-time pick-up spots:[/B] Easy, there are three well-known places, all in 5-star hotels - BATS at the Shangri-La Hotel, Tiga Puluh Bar at Le Meridien Hotel, and CJ's at Hotel Mulia on Jalan Asia-Africa. Note: don't confuse this hotel name with a similarly-named hotel, the Gran Melia Hotel on Jalan Rasuna Said, which is NOT a big pick-up spot.
For slightly-lower bars, go to Blok M at night to visit D's Place, My Bar or Top Gun, all in the same block on the same street.
Short-time prices seem to be around 250,000 to 350,000 rupiah, long-time (overnight, with at least 2 pops) seems to be 500,000 rupiah, maybe a little more. Some girls may start with a much higher asking price (1 million and higher), but please don't fall for that trick - they usually drop their prices by quite a bit immediately, especially if it's close to closing time and they are hurting for money. Please don't overpay!
Interesting - many of the same girls that you'll see at BATS at 9 p.m. may be found at the Blok M bars after midnight, for a much lower asking price.
[B]A unique place:[/B] Go the Stadium Night Club, near Kartika/Berlian. There's a massage parlor on the 3rd floor and a wild disco on the 4th floor that is open 24 hours a day on the weekends. The 4th floor is not my type of scene, so I can't comment on it, but there have been several interesting posts written about the 4th floor during the last year.
Had a couple of good sessions with a very petite girl named Melly who works at the 3rd floor massage place, for 257,000 rupiah house fee and a tip of 50,000 rupiah.
[B]Taxis:[/B] To avoid getting ripped off, use Blue Bird or Silver Bird taxis (same owners for both) and insist on having the driver use the meter. You can also ask the driver to wait outside a club/spa for you with the meter running, for Blue Bird it would cost about 20,000 rupiah an hour to keep the cab.
Yes, there is a lot more to the Jakarta scene than what I've written above, but at least this is a start for a visitor who's only in Jakarta for a few days and who wants to get laid. Good luck!
Dear Pussy Master,
I just quoted your long story short as I heard I from you over & over again, Honestly I didn't know it was going to be this much fun,
Looking 4ward 4 the trip, good ol' mongering ways.
[QUOTE=Pop It]Dear Pussy Master,
I just quoted your long story short as I heard I from you over & over again, Honestly I didn't know it was going to be this much fun, Looking 4ward 4 the trip, good ol' mongering ways.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Luli Jakarta]Dear Pussy Master 78,
Thanks for your report and your description of Chi is promising. Any possibility you send even in private message which site you contacted in internet or phone number. Any picture? Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Iabdullah]Pussy Master78,
This is indeed a fantastic report as a first timer. The lady Chi interest me as I have met a chi_chi on faceparty and is wondering if she is the same lady. If it is, I would indeed congratulate brother pussylover because she is very special indeed.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Totobiscot]I will be in Jakarta soon. Does anyone know where to find the beautiful young and high class caucasian girls? Thanks a lot[/QUOTE]
All of the above posts may be found on the next two pages. None of them contain much in the way of useful information, and all of them were posted by newbies with the following post counts:
Pop It – 1 (incomprehensible) post as of today, April 26, 2007
Luli Jakarta – 3 posts as of today
Iabdullah – 1 post as of today
Totobiscut – 3 posts as of today
Guys, I'm not against newbies at all, you are all welcome to ISG. But please, write a few reports that contain some useful information, rather than just asking questions or making a comment.
(The "Where's the beef?" comment dates back to a commercial for a fast food hamburger chain in the US, back in 1984. The line was subsequently used by Walter Mondale in his campaign for President later that year. Yes, he lost, but it's still a great line).
[QUOTE=Zamziv]Was reading here about this place so decided to pay a visit.
The massage is on the second floor of the hotel.
You pay 80K for the VIP room - just simple but clean room and choose the girl from the book.
It was Monday night so the selection poor.
Choosed the best and waited in the room.
In came a fat and ugly mature woman that gave me a decent massage for 20-30 minutes.
Then she asked 500K for HJ - I didnt agree so quickly she came down to 200K.
I didnt agree and left.[/QUOTE]Stayed at Hotel Menteng once about 5 years ago (not recommended, very noisy) and used the massage place several times and have revisited a few times over the years. Never saw any fat babes but the photos tend to make the girls look better than they really are. However, I did find a gem once. She said she'd already been there a couple of months so I was really surprised when she came about 5 times in an hour. Left her with a big smile on her face and pleadings to come back often. That was the best, but never had bad service.
Hi,
After lurking around for a couple of months, I have decided to come out in the open. Went to BATS the other night for the first time to explore the place after reading all the posts here. It was Saturday and I went at 930 and realized that the place comes alive only after 11pm. So I ended up by knocking off a couple of drinks to pass the time. It was past 11 when the ceweks arrived. Unfortunately, the good looking ones hung together and my attempts to catch their eyes did not get any reponse. However, there was a persistent cewek who came and stood behind me and was very insistent but she did not appeal to me.
In desperation I moved to a corner table and caught the eye of one that I would not have normally chosen (5 /6 appearance) and negotiations ensued. Jenny was from Yogya and was trying to recover her investment on the BATS cover charge. But despite what I've read on the forum she would not come down to less than 800k for LT. As I couldn't take her to may apartment for all the usual reasons, I took her to a hotel that I had checked in in advance- F1 Accor in Menteng Plaza. Has anyone tried this place? It's central and reasonably priced around 250K has small but new rooms, much better than the 350k charged for the run-down Melawai rooms. Moreover, it has car parking in the basement and direct access to your floor. Its recommended for mongers wanting a central location, clean rooms and discretion although as I recall one of our senior brothers had criticized the Accor/Ibis group for their soft mattresses which were, in his view, not suitable for long banging sessions. Anyway to cut a long story short, she turned out to be quite responsive although her English conversation was almost zilch. But then who cares if you can have an all night three-time marathon!
Anyway, inspired by this foray, I also decided to try out Delta Fortuna about which I had read a lot in this forum. It was all that it was promised to be and more. I cannot stop singing its hossanas. The ultimate zipperless experience as far as shiatsu massages and handjobs go! Friendly and warm service. Since the main point of a massage is to relieve tension, relieving sexual tension built up in the course of the massage and bringing the client to a climax falls within this mandate. And it was done as a matter of course, service with a smile. The warmed shiatsu stone held tenderly against the family jewels made those little wriggly denizens inside desperate to rush out and a gentle helping hand was extended to them. And after that a warm bath was run and after good body scrub I was revived enough to continue on my Jakarta adventures and explorations with renewed vigor!
By the way, I recall someone asking about a drive in place near RS Fatmawati. It's called Hillside and like Pondok Nirvana is ideal for taking your cewek to, if you are a Jakarta resident with car and need to be discrete.
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[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]Or, go to Hotel Melawai in the Blok M area, take an elevator to the 6th Floor and visit the Maribaya Bar/Spa, 350,000 rupiah all-inclusive, no need to tip extra. [/QUOTE]
A tip is not necessary there? This is news to me. I've been going there for almost 10 years now and I've never not left a tip if I received good service. I normally tip 50,000. I've discussed the appropriate amount of a tip there many times with many friends, and 50k seems to be the norm. Maybe we've been overpaying all these years.
I'm curious, who told you a tip is not necessary there? I know a tip is not expected at Delta massage if you get the 500k hot rock treatment and they give you a hand job, but I was always under the impression the 6th floor girls were being tipped. Actually, I give a 50k tip at every *****house in Jakarta. The 6th is not an exception as far as I'm aware.
[QUOTE=Smoothy] I give a 50k tip at every *****house in Jakarta. The 6th is not an exception as far as I'm aware.[/QUOTE]I second that. The reason a tip matters is because girls often (not always, alas) keep all of it. In 6th floor girls only keep half of the money, the rest goes to Maribaya, but they keep all the tip.
Of course, we may have different spending budget but if a monger feels he's unable to leave a reasonable tip for good service in a place, maybe it's time he took his custom to a cheaper place. This doesn't only apply to flesh spots: restaurants also expect tips for good food and service, and it's not a good idea to patronise an expensive restaurant and never leave a tip. One of the reasons I don't patronise top-tier call-girl services in JKT is because if I pay one million for a girl I'm not prepared to add a 100k-200k tip. Seeing the smile on a girl's face when she notices you've added a 50k bill to the agreed price is one of the pleasures of mongering in JKT.
I have tried Hotel Menteng a few times and also Megaa Cikini hotels that are close by for massages.
Menteng was good once but now its old. Was there a few months ago adn thought at 11pm to go have massage. Well the guy didbnt know who was on duty. Showed me to an occupied room etc. Was total disaster. So went to Mega Cikini where I had a great time. Then next trip. Was a regualr at Mega Cikini. And found a real cutie who didn't want to play. Money presuaded her otherwise and she was heavily into it at the end. No language but she was loud and only 19. Anyways both Mega Cikinis are good places to start and finish a day and cure that nagging tension we all get. Going to Manila at the weekend which will certainly solve current tensions yeah!
[QUOTE=Spice Lover] I had checked in in advance- F1 Accor in Menteng Plaza. Has anyone tried this place? It's central and reasonably priced around 250K has small but new rooms, much better than the 350k charged for the run-down Melawai rooms. Moreover, it has car parking in the basement and direct access to your floor. Its recommended for mongers wanting a central location, clean rooms and discretion although as I recall one of our senior brothers had criticized the Accor/Ibis group for their soft mattresses which were, in his view, not suitable for long banging sessions. [/QUOTE]
It is indeed a good hotel, but I thought it funny when the bed kept moving with every movement we made on it :D One moment we found ourselves at the other end of the room :)
Don't forget to bring your own toothbrush. They don't provide that!
Bro,
Would luv to share but I only had the numbers to the modern and jababeka caddies but both numbers are no longer in service. not sure if they are still there but u can ask for Diah at modern and ICha at jababeka. havent played there rcently so cannot verify anything.
But again, there's about 200 caddies in Bogor Raya and in most cases you will get a decent looking one. Dont forget about the no cross selling rule so do ask the caddy master to change the caddy before u start if you dont fancy her. thereon she's ready for nego. Another thing about Bogor, u have to make sure they go back with u coz giving them taxi money will never get u nowhere other than them buying pulsa and sms-ing you giving stupid excuses on why they cant make it to c u.
Do try to play at imperial, superb fairways and fast greens as well as naughty caddies and gorgeous waitress. Try asking Nia or devan for dinner first.
Good luck bro. It's not a sure thing but for some of us, the game of chance is thrilling enuff.
[QUOTE=Funky Man]Bro Mojo,
Do you happen to still recall the names or keep the HP no of the caddies in modern, Bogor, Imperial, Jababeka and Rancamaya? Get invited to play either Bogoraya or Rancamaya next month.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
After reading a few older reports on this board, decided to try my luck one saturday afternoon at Today Country (Tiara Ceria) at Lokasari Plaza.
20RP entry (gets a drink), mamasan immediately comes over "girl, girl" ?
place is incredibly dark (make sure you have a really good look at the girls), as mentioned previously girls are really young (and they look it), offered 17 year old, sorry too young - took 19yo slender Javanese. Probably 20 or 30 girls there at the time.
Had a great time and damage was reasonable = 200 (45min) & 50 (room) & 20 (entry). - LT takeout is available.
(270RP = US $30 ?)
[QUOTE=Smoothy]A tip is not necessary there? This is news to me. I've been going there for almost 10 years now and I've never not left a tip if I received good service. I normally tip 50,000. I've discussed the appropriate amount of a tip there many times with many friends, and 50k seems to be the norm. Maybe we've been overpaying all these years.
I'm curious, who told you a tip is not necessary there? I know a tip is not expected at Delta massage if you get the 500k hot rock treatment and they give you a hand job, but I was always under the impression the 6th floor girls were being tipped. Actually, I give a 50k tip at every *****house in Jakarta. The 6th is not an exception as far as I'm aware.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=XXL]I second that. The reason a tip matters is because girls often (not always, alas) keep all of it. In 6th floor girls only keep half of the money, the rest goes to Maribaya, but they keep all the tip.
Of course, we may have different spending budget but if a monger feels he's unable to leave a reasonable tip for good service in a place, maybe it's time he took his custom to a cheaper place. This doesn't only apply to flesh spots: restaurants also expect tips for good food and service, and it's not a good idea to patronise an expensive restaurant and never leave a tip. One of the reasons I don't patronise top-tier call-girl services in JKT is because if I pay one million for a girl I'm not prepared to add a 100k-200k tip. Seeing the smile on a girl's face when she notices you've added a 50k bill to the agreed price is one of the pleasures of mongering in JKT.[/QUOTE]
Hey, I could be wrong, but my impression had always been that there was no need to tip a girl at Maribaya Spa unless the guy feels that he's gotten tremendous service, because the asked-for fee of 350,000 rupiah is higher than many other places (Kartika, Berlian, Hotel Travel all are 250,000 house fee, Stadium 3rd floor 257,000 house fee). Plus the girls at Maribaya get to keep at least 200,000 rupiah for themselves, as opposed to Kartika and Berlian, where the girls evidently get to keep around 100,000 rupiah for themselves.
And XXL, I'm certainly able to leave a reasonable tip for good service, so that's not the problem.
I have given a tip of 50,000 rupiah a few times for good service at Maribaya. But I've never, ever paid more than the 350,000 rupiah per girl fee whenever I've had a 2-girl session, and no one's ever complained or asked for extra cash (whereas I always give a tip to both girls when I have a 2-girl session at Kartika). I'm fairly well known at Maribaya as a regular customer, and I always have a choice of several girls to choose from whenever I've walked in the door there, and a couple of them send me sms's regularly to ask when I'm coming back again to see them.
Again, I could be wrong, and I certainly don't mind if any guy wants to give a Maribaya girl a 50,000 rupiah tip. But my impression had been that a tip is very much expected at Kartika, Berlian, etc. but not necessarily at Maribaya.
[QUOTE=Smoothy]A tip is not necessary there? This is news to me. I've been going there for almost 10 years now and I've never not left a tip if I received good service. I normally tip 50,000. I've discussed the appropriate amount of a tip there many times with many friends, and 50k seems to be the norm. Maybe we've been overpaying all these years.
I'm curious, who told you a tip is not necessary there? I know a tip is not expected at Delta massage if you get the 500k hot rock treatment and they give you a hand job, but I was always under the impression the 6th floor girls were being tipped. Actually, I give a 50k tip at every *****house in Jakarta. The 6th is not an exception as far as I'm aware.[/QUOTE]
IMHO tips should only ever be given for exceptional or at least very good service. To me, being expected to give a tip is BS - if it's expected then it's not a tip, it's part of the price!
I virtually never tip at the 6th floor (the legendary Lusi was the most regular exception) and have never had any hassle about it. No-one ever told me I didn't need to tip at the Melawai - I just don't tip anywhere and the 6th floor is no exception. The girls hover around obviously expecting a tip, but no one has ever said a word when I don't.
Next time you watch Reservoir Dogs, take note of the great scene where the gangsters debate the ethics of tipping. I agree with the guy who says "why should I tip a waitress, when I don't tip the kid at McDonalds, or the girl on the supermarket check-out etc". In the West, tipping is just a way for rip-off employers to pay lousy wages and make their staff beg from the customers.
There are a thousand reasons by tipping is BS. Won't go into them all, but high tippers are just the same as those who overpay. They spoil the market and create expectations that can lead to unpleasant arguments and tension. And that's a real turn-off. Just pay the price and only tip if you get something really special.
Well I finally made it to the famed jakarta over the weekend and loved the big city. I havent seen a building higher than a coconut tree in close to two years. Anyways here is just what I saw and what I enjoyed...
Friday night, met a friend at The Intercontinental and she took me on to Plaza Indonesia, cool pace and lots to see. We went to Hardrock and was immediately hit with a covercharge which was supposedly my first drink. 75.000 rp expensive coke. I found this bar loud and dark and mainly fulll of locals and not really that friendly.
Decided to move on to the Red Square, Now this was happening, no covercharge and the girls get up on the long benches and bars to dance 90% of the girls where a 8 or above and all there for a good time...
At 2.30 my friend wanted to go home so as I was staying at Blok M decided to go to the famous Topgun. Free entry and I am sorry what a hole. As I walked in I saw my ex who immediately freaked out that I was in Jakarta and ran away down the road... oh well you get that.
So I went inside and it was literally wall to wall with young and older girls just waiting for a ATM Bule to walk in I cruised through and had a look and was accosted by at least 5 different girls when one in particular go my attention. Needless to say we went back to the room and did the do, she gave me some crap story she has only been in Jakarta for six months so didnt know what to charge so I said ok we shall see the service and it was ok... She left at 6.30 and I gave her 300.000 which she then started to cry at and I just was totally over that so got her to leave before I called security. Although Topgun has some nice looking girls just was not my scene.
Saturday
Met the Mighty Spearsman and we went to lunch, I was witha girl who I had been chatting to for a couple of weeks on the net. Good to see the Spear again :) anyways after lunch we went back to my place my friend just dropped her clothes and said she was really wet and wanted to be fucked. Who am I to argue so I kindly obliged the girl. She had to get home by six so left me and didnt ask me for anything apart from the peanuts and choclates in the Minibar, a cheap afternoon...
Saturday night
Went to Pisa Cafe good Italian food, and then when my friends wanted to go home I decided to venture out. First stop BATS. 75.000 coke Got there at about 11 oclock and the girls were all good quality I just sat back and watched for a while and was hassled by and average looking girl who I soon got rid off and then saw an extremely good lookingt girl who said she worked in a boutique. We talked for a while and the I asked why she was at BATS and she said to make money :) I said ok how much and she got really shy and it took about 10 minutes to get a price of 1.5 million for 1 hour. I laughed and said no way she got huffy so I left.
Next stop CJ's. 75.000 coke. Much bigger venue than any I had seen before and many many girls both workers and other. I just sat back in a corner watching when a very cute little one 26 yr old came and chatted to me we talked for an hour and then she had to go.. got her number for next time I am in Jakarta as she is a freebie. Next saw another cute girl who smiled, I smiled and really it went from there although, I was tired so I just got her number for a later time.
All in all, I like Jakarta there is a much bigger range of better girls as has been said many times before, although I did find some of them very aggressive compared to party style Bali....
Would I do it again... Damn yes, hopefully in two weeks
[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]But my impression had been that a tip is very much expected at Kartika, Berlian, etc. but not necessarily at Maribaya.[/QUOTE]
I don't know why those places should be any different as far as a tip. The difference is that the Kartika girls are agressive as hell and the Maribaya girls are laid back. The second you walk in the door at a place like Kartika, you're attacked by a flock of very agressive girls grabbing you pressuring you to take them upstairs. At Maribaya, the girls might say "massage?", but that's about it. They won't grab you and hold onto you like a leech continually pressuring you until you push them away and tell them to get lost like you have to at Kartika.
After service at Kartika, the girls then pressure for as big a tip as they can get. It seems to be just a management style. The maribaya management teaches their girls to respect the customer and not complain because repeat business is the most important thing. The Kartika girls are trained to be agressive. I like the laid back approach of Maribaya much better.
I definitely do not tip at Maribaya if the service is bad. However, since I rarely don't get off twice there, the service is normally excellent and I pretty much always tip. Of course they will never complain if you don't tip, the management frowns on them complaining about anything at all there.
[QUOTE=Smoothy] The difference is that the Kartika girls are agressive as hell and the Maribaya girls are laid back. The maribaya management teaches their girls to respect the customer and not complain because repeat business is the most important thing. The Kartika girls are trained to be agressive. I like the laid back approach of Maribaya much better.
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You're dead right Smoothy. This "you're expected to tip" crap only happens when managers won't pay their staff properly and force them to hassle the customers. This creates an unfriendly aggressive atmosphere where the girls have to compete with each other to make a buck. If customers play the managers' game and cave into demands for tips then it stays that way for ever after.
BTW: I've never tipped at the Berlian either. But I have noticed that the pressure to tip has increased in recent years.
[QUOTE=Bali Semut]Saturday night
Went to Pisa Cafe good Italian food, and then when my friends wanted to go home I decided to venture out. First stop BATS. 75.000 coke Got there at about 11 oclock and the girls were all good quality I just sat back and watched for a while and was hassled by and average looking girl who I soon got rid off and then saw an extremely good lookingt girl who said she worked in a boutique. We talked for a while and the I asked why she was at BATS and she said to make money :) I said ok how much and she got really shy and it took about 10 minutes to get a price of 1.5 million for 1 hour. I laughed and said no way she got huffy so I left.
Would I do it again... Damn yes, hopefully in two weeks[/QUOTE]Good on you Mr Bali Semut and welcome to the Capital City ! This 1.5 M Rp quote seems ridiculous. WG's at CJ's usually start their quotes about 600-800k max. Very strange, either she did not dig you at all or she was totally drunk.
[QUOTE=Mangga]You're dead right Smoothy. This "you're expected to tip" crap only happens when managers won't pay their staff properly and force them to hassle the customers. This creates an unfriendly aggressive atmosphere where the girls have to compete with each other to make a buck. If customers play the managers' game and cave into demands for tips then it stays that way for ever after.
BTW: I've never tipped at the Berlian either. But I have noticed that the pressure to tip has increased in recent years.[/QUOTE]I can't believe all the discussion on tipping. It seems to me if you get good service then a tip is in order, if not then don't leave a tip and consider not even paying the normal charge. If rp50k is really going to change your standard of living then maybe you need to consider a new pastime or go to a lower end of the market.
[QUOTE=Mandiri]Good on you Mr Bali Semut and welcome to the Capital City ! This 1.5 M Rp quote seems ridiculous. WG's at CJ's usually start their quotes about 600-800k max. Very strange, either she did not dig you at all or she was totally drunk.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for that Mandiri but it was actually BATS that the girl quoted 1.5 for an hour. Although I did consider it I couldnt bring myself to pay hat much for 60 minutes of fun... not when I could pay 500.000 for an all nighter
[QUOTE=Bali Semut]Thanks for that Mandiri but it was actually BATS that the girl quoted 1.5 for an hour. Although I did consider it I couldnt bring myself to pay hat much for 60 minutes of fun... not when I could pay 500.000 for an all nighter[/QUOTE]You did the absolute right thing, Mr Semut ! Warm thanks for not spoling the market. 1.5 M Rp means 5 chicks at 300k Rp each (going rate at Blok M for an all-nighter chick).
By the way, a friend of mine recently pulled a freebie out of BATS, so no need to pay 500k either !
His (wise and smart) tactics was to have a genuine chat with a BATS chick he fancied in a gentleman-like way (he is a gentleman anyhow), then pick up her digits and over the next following days when he was abroad keep in touch and continue to build the realtionship with her via SMS. The (natural, by JKT standards) outcome was that the chick was ready to spread her legs as soon as he was back in JKT 2 weeks later -- which she did (my friend had a great time and she is now a regular of his FoC). A classic situation in lovely JKT !
I telphoned Kartika the other day to see if my favorite would be there during my upcoming visit to Jakarta. I spoke with the mamasan and asked about 'Tuti' and she said which one, number 25 or 43?
It got me thinking now - how to solve the mystery/identity of the famous 'Cynthia' seeing there are more that one Cythia that works there.
Anyone know her (the origional Cynthia's) number so I can at least have the pleasure of inspection on my next visit?
My friend recently got a freebie at BATS. I decided to get the same and went there the other day.- weekday. And in fact I got 2!
So it is defintily possible to get freebies even at BATS!
I chatted to a a number of chicks between 10pm and about 2am, most of them pro's and a few of them genuine "naughty" chicks on a night out with a friend or several friends. I even got an offer from a WG which I immediately declined, not being into the P4P game last night.
One of my friends chatted with a girl who was there with her girlfriend. Both were having a good time chatting away and exchanging phone numbers. I approached her girlfriend, a beautiful 23 yo, we chatted away also. Then came closing time at 3am. The 4 of us started making our way out and I then suggested "hey let's all go to my hotel room and empty the mini-bar". Off we go in a taxi to my friend's and my hotel. Going up in the lift my friend found an excuse to go to his room with his chick and I with my chick. I had a delightful night with this wonderful girl, 2 shots, BBBJ, very GFE. It was gorgeous. Too bad I had to kick her out in the morning as I was busy with work.
So guys freebies at BATS can be had, it's just a matter of not being desperate, taking one's time and. Having a bit of luck.
Enjoy!
Bebek, I hope when she asked if you wanted 25 or 43, you told the mama you wanted BOTH. :)
The sandwich action at Kartika is the only reason I ever go there. Honestly though, I never even knew they had numbers. I don't go to Kartika often, but when I do, I wait about 20 minutes for my eyes to adjust to the dark then choose the best 2 I can find.
I was in Tiga Puluh last night. and it was empty, maybe because it was a wednesday night and all the girls are in CJ (ladies night) but i heard from the hotel staff that there was a shooting incident that happened recently. Can someone verify.
Also a friend recommended blowfish, it is a restaurant bar, how is the action there ?
Hi Mandiri,
If you don't get the money ISSUE clear up front then problems can arise
eg even the sweet 'up to you darling' can mean anything and at 3 am after drinking and smoking the night away can be a pain
I had a girl who said up to you and then proved to be such a bad root that I zipped up and asked her to leave and she demanded 500K or Police would come or then her brother.
I reckon its a business and like all good business get the expectations clear so no problems.
Additionally, as a personal comment, I never ever mention the money issue myself at the bar or before going back to my room with a chick, since it is not always really obvious who these genuine chicks are vs WG’s, and also I’ve had many freebies from WG’s. If they want $$$, they will bring up the $$$ issue themselves. I personally think there is no need to bring up this issue – plus I find it a real turn-off.
Continuing on this interesting topic of freebies, I went to a karaoke last night with a client.- Palace in Jamsostek. We went thru the usual routine of picking our respective girls. I picked a girl with nice shapes and a big rack whom I took the fancy of in the line-up. She has worked for 2 years she said and was extremely GFE with me, seemed very genuine at least. My clients took some girls who were a bit more shy, perhaps because they had only started working there 2 months prior.
Anyway the evening goes on and sadly, though both of us wanted to, I could not bring her back to my hotel after her shift was over (1am), because I was due to meet another girl about 11. 30pm. So we traded digits and she promised to come to my hotel the following day (today) after work (1am). During the day, we traded SMS and she finally took the (nice) initiative of coming over to my hotel at 6. 30pm just before starting her shift at 8pm. She came over, and we did what we had to do. She was more shy than I had expected (she was quite aggressive at the karaoke the night before, stroking my cock and nipples (trousers and shirt still on! )). Very GFE, BBBJ and missionary, the deed was quickly done as she had to run to her work by 8pm. No money asked, I just took the initiative of slipping 50k in her back-pocket for taxy $$$.
My first freebie from a karaoke, anything can happen in JKT. What a city!
Hi,
Who can tell me where can I find a chick in Kelapa Gading?
[QUOTE=Gzono]...
If you dont get the money ISSUE clear up front then problems can arise ...
... I never ever mention the money issue myself at the bar or before going back to my room with a chick... If they want $$$, they will bring up the $$$ issue themselves. I personally think there is no need to bring up this issue – plus I find it a real turn-off.[/QUOTE]Excuse me mate, but which is it to be then? 1) Clear up the money issue up front, or 2) Never ever mention the money issue oneself? Have you made up your mind?
[QUOTE=Mandiri]Continuing on this interesting topic of freebies, I went to a karaoke last night with a client.- Palace in Jamsostek. We went thru the usual routine of picking our respective girls. I picked a girl with nice shapes and a big rack whom I took the fancy of in the line-up. She has worked for 2 years she said and was extremely GFE with me, seemed very genuine at least. My clients took some girls who were a bit more shy, perhaps because they had only started working there 2 months prior.
Anyway the evening goes on and sadly, though both of us wanted to, I could not bring her back to my hotel after her shift was over (1am), because I was due to meet another girl about 11. 30pm. So we traded digits and she promised to come to my hotel the following day (today) after work (1am). During the day, we traded SMS and she finally took the (nice) initiative of coming over to my hotel at 6. 30pm just before starting her shift at 8pm. She came over, and we did what we had to do. She was more shy than I had expected (she was quite aggressive at the karaoke the night before, stroking my cock and nipples (trousers and shirt still on! )). Very GFE, BBBJ and missionary, the deed was quickly done as she had to run to her work by 8pm. No money asked, I just took the initiative of slipping 50k in her back-pocket for taxy $$$.
My first freebie from a karaoke, anything can happen in JKT. What a city![/QUOTE]
Bro Mandiri,
Your report brought back many fond memories of this place -- coincidentally, I had an almost similar experience way back, but I was not honoured with the experience of a freebie, you lucky bastard!
There are lots of pickings in the KTV scene, and I find that it's a more straightforward transaction than going to Tiga Puluh or CJs or BATS -- I'm not knocking these places, so please don't flame me! Sometimes it's more convenient to pick-up at the KTVs than fish at the discos, especially when you have guests/clients to entertain, and they want a sure thing WITH a line-up to choose from.
My first experience in Jakarta was actually with the Chivas SPG working in one of the karaokes. She served the bottle to our KTV room, and asked me to complete a contest entry form for a promotion that Chivas was running; so we had the chance to chat a bit.
Well, at the end of the night, as our car was pulling out from the building, I saw her waiting by the roadside, just finishing a call on her mobile. I wound down the car window, and asked whether she wanted to follow me to CJs -- to my surprise, she agreed and hopped in immediately!! Well, we had 2 drinks in CJs and went straight up to my room in Mulia. Totally free, but I did give her a tip of Rp 100k the next morning.
Man, I was ready to give up my citizenship to move to Jakarta at that time!!
Another place that you might be interested in is Cosmos KTV located behind Plaza Lippo on Sudirman.
Best,
Panya
[QUOTE=Panya]Bro Mandiri,
Your report brought back many fond memories of this place -- coincidentally, I had an almost similar experience way back, but I was not honoured with the experience of a freebie, you lucky bastard!
There are lots of pickings in the KTV scene, and I find that it's a more straightforward transaction than going to Tiga Puluh or CJs or BATS -- I'm not knocking these places, so please don't flame me! Sometimes it's more convenient to pick-up at the KTVs than fish at the discos, especially when you have guests/clients to entertain, and they want a sure thing WITH a line-up to choose from.
My first experience in Jakarta was actually with the Chivas SPG working in one of the karaokes. She served the bottle to our KTV room, and asked me to complete a contest entry form for a promotion that Chivas was running; so we had the chance to chat a bit.
Well, at the end of the night, as our car was pulling out from the building, I saw her waiting by the roadside, just finishing a call on her mobile. I wound down the car window, and asked whether she wanted to follow me to CJs -- to my surprise, she agreed and hopped in immediately!! Well, we had 2 drinks in CJs and went straight up to my room in Mulia. Totally free, but I did give her a tip of Rp 100k the next morning.
Man, I was ready to give up my citizenship to move to Jakarta at that time!!
Another place that you might be interested in is Cosmos KTV located behind Plaza Lippo on Sudirman.
Best,
Panya[/QUOTE]Thanks Panya for the encouragements and the information.
You write that it is easier to pick up at the Karaoke. I am not a karaoke expert (only been there 2-3 times in JKT), but it seems to me like ONLY IF the chemistry is right between the client and the girl (in my case the cheimstry was great but I would assume this was a pure coincidence and it does not happen so often), then the type of circumstances you experienced and I experienced can happen. But it's probably not so often, is it ? (unless of course you do a costly transaction with the Karaoke place at Rp 1 M plus or so. Am I missing something ?
Cheers,
One of my regulars, having spotted me at a club with another club and having logically derived from that that I am not of the most faithful type (LOL!) sent a friend of hers this SMS - (can anyone pls help with translating into English, that'd be useful, I only understand 30% of it):-
"iya tadi mlm gw sakit hati sich, tp gw udah ngomong ama dia, jadi mslhnya dah clear. Ya udah lah mau diapain lg. Gw harus hati2 lg ama cowo. Jadi k TA nya?"
Many thanks in advance,
[QUOTE=Mandiri]One of my regulars, having spotted me at a club with another club and having logically derived from that that I am not of the most faithful type (LOL!) sent a friend of hers this SMS - (can anyone pls help with translating into English, that'd be useful, I only understand 30% of it):-
"iya tadi mlm gw sakit hati sich, tp gw udah ngomong ama dia, jadi mslhnya dah clear. Ya udah lah mau diapain lg. Gw harus hati2 lg ama cowo. Jadi k TA nya?"
Many thanks in advance,[/QUOTE]Yes last night I was broken hearted, but I already speak with him, so the problem is clear (or solved?). What can i say (in English speaking: let's not talk about this anymore). I must be more carefull with guys. So did u go to TA?
TA could meant Taman Anggrek, one of the mall in West Jakarta.
Hopefully thats help, and you should be more carefull about forwarding her SMS to your phone (if you did), she could know it by the phone log.
[QUOTE=Cervello]Yes last night I was broken hearted, but I already speak with him, so the problem is clear (or solved?). What can i say (in English speaking: let's not talk about this anymore). I must be more carefull with guys. So did u go to TA?
TA could meant Taman Anggrek, one of the mall in West Jakarta.
Hopefully thats help, and you should be more carefull about forwarding her SMS to your phone (if you did), she could know it by the phone log.[/QUOTE]Thanks Cervello for your kind help.
Actually this SMS was sent by my regular to my phone, either by mistake (instead of being sent to her female friend's) or on purpose with the intent of telling me something. Go and figure.
I am new in Jakarata. Have been in Jakarta only 3-4 months.
I read in this forum that there have been some raids in Stadium. If you do not take drugs do you need to worry about the raids? Is prostitution illegal in Indonesia? Is it safer to take a girl home from block m?
Thanks,
E
[QUOTE=Epicureanx]I am new in Jakarata. Have been in Jakarta only 3-4 months.I read in this forum that there have been some raids in Stadium. If you do not take drugs do you need to worry about the raids? Is prostitution illegal in Indonesia? Is it safer to take a girl home from block m?[/QUOTE]What about first clicking "Search this thread", typing eg "statium raids" then clicking "Go"?
Part 1 of 3
I’d been looking forward to this trip for a long time and I wasn’t disappointed. Having gone straight from the 14 hour journey into a days work then straight out to dinner with colleagues I had to rearrange my initial plans.
Checked into my room at the Shangri La at about 9pm and rang for an in room massage. No chance there as they reported fully booked. Instead, I took a long shower and at around 10pm, refreshed and freshly dressed and pressed, I headed for BATS.
Found myself a table to watch the band from and had the first Bintang of the trip. Not the band I’d seen on previous trips but still sounded very good to my unsophisticated ear. The slim girl vocalist was stunning and they were very entertaining.
After a couple of beers the journey started to take it’s toll and I started to flag. Determined that I was going to enjoy what I’d come for I started to survey the talent. I could see a girl stood near the bar who occasionally looked in my direction. I returned the glances with a mimed offer of a drink and she came over to join me.
So, I had just met Veronica. Late 20s nice figure (not too skinny) and a round face with beautiful eyes. So far a 7/10 on my modest scale. A bit of small talk hampered by the noise of the band followed by a bit of hands on familiarisation. At around 11pm I invited her to my room and off we went. This really is less effort than having a wank LOL.
No messing around in the room, she was quickly naked and I followed. Unclothed, her body was voluptuous. Not great tits but smooth skin and lightly padded hips and waist. Nicely trimmed pussy. And so to bed.
A bit of DFK, BBBJ, DATY etc was all very nice but the highlight of the experience was a spectacular fuck (covered). Having started with a very nice cowgirl she twisted round. Not quite a reverse CG but in this positon she leaned forward and pushed back and WOW! This not only made me feel like my cock was 2” longer but I could feel it nudging her cervix. Fantastic.
In the circumstances I was pleased that I was able to keep my self control and keep the fucking up for best part of an hour. When I finally shot a healthy load of baby batter into the end of my condom she made a lovely job of cleaning me up. And so to sleep.
A pre-planned wake-up call prompted another round, which whilst not lasting as long was just as special as the first one. What a great way to wake up. And, I am pleased to report, I was still as attracted to her as I had been the previous evening. Always a good sign.
As she finished dressing, she asked for money and I handed her a prepared 500k RP which took, looked at and put away with out comment. So we both appeared to be happy with the amount. As she left, she saw my UK pocket change out on the side and asked for it. So I parted with approximately £3.50 as well.
All in all a satisfactory night.
Looks 7/10
Body 7/10
BBBJ 8/10
FS 9/10
GFE 8/10
Conclusion: Easily missed if you are too picky (given the usual quality in BATS) but a great experience. If I see her again I would definitely fuck her some more.
2 regrets:- no cell phone number and no photos.
SK
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[QUOTE=Epicureanx]I am new in Jakarata. Have been in Jakarta only 3-4 months.
I read in this forum that there have been some raids in Stadium. If you do not take drugs do you need to worry about the raids? Is prostitution illegal in Indonesia? Is it safer to take a girl home from block m?
Thanks,
E[/QUOTE]
RTFF. thats the respect you'd give to the senior members who have put in efforts to document the reality. Especially in the Jakarta forum, once u read the experiences, you will get clarity and that's one way of paying tributes to the brethren like JAD, Bulai69, Menteng, XXL, Mighty Spearsman, Asian Rain Brandon88 etc and many more for the efforts they have put in to document their experiences. And then ask for clarifications. Hope you take my comments in a good spirit
[QUOTE=Epicureanx]I am new in Jakarata. Have been in Jakarta only 3-4 months.
I read in this forum that there have been some raids in Stadium. If you do not take drugs do you need to worry about the raids? Is prostitution illegal in Indonesia? Is it safer to take a girl home from block m?
Thanks,
E[/QUOTE]You should be worry about any kind of raids in Indonesia, most of the time its about money, cops will be looking for your mistake and they WILL get one (it will be involve alot of money if you take or bring any drugs). My advice is (if do you have some "mistake"), offer some money to the local (50K to 100K will do), prefereably guys cause girls could make you into more sh*t, ask him to be your friend (i mean literally looks friendly to him) and lead you out of the situation.
Prostitution is illegal, thats why you dont want to have a girl as your card getting out of a raid.
Safer to take a girl home/hotel? Well thats depend on which route your taxi take, because getting caught in the street on your way back (routine police check on vehicle) could get you the same problem especially when the girl dont bring her ID, in this case make friend with the taxi driver.
Part 2 of 3
Day 2 of my short trip to Jakarta and I was treated by colleagues to a visit to the Delta Spa in Kelapa Gading. Time was late afternoon/early evening. Started with a very pleasant 30-40 minutes in the spa area. A very welcome shower after the days work followed by soak in the hot tub and a cooling swim in the pool.
When we were refreshed we went upto the next floor where it appears the request for massages were made. I don’t know what was being discussed except when I agreed to be serviced by a non English speaker. Then we were led up another flight of stairs.
Apparently all the VIP rooms were taken. I was led to a cubicle with a double layer curtain for a door and walls which did not reach the ceiling. The floor, which was raised up, was padded and the massage bed laid straight on it. In the few minutes waiting for our girls my colleague and I chatted over the dividing wall. I must admit that this close proximity and lack of privacy suggested to me that there would be limited opportunity for happy ending.
When my girl arrived I was very pleased. Probably early 20s, a lovely figure under a peach(?) coloured miniskirt uniform and a sweet, pretty face. To top it all she had great smile and such a friendly demeanour. She bade me lay down and she set about preparing her equipment which included hot rocks.
While the rocks were heating up she gave me a great massage (I couldn’t tell you if it was thai, Chinese, shiatsu or what) during which I was divested of my shorts. Then after a while she was able to start with the stones. This was new experience for me but one I will repeat. At one point whilst I was still face down, she pushed a couple of stones under me to nestle one on either side of my groin. That did great things for me.
Eventually I was invited to turn on to my back and it was plain to see that I was enjoying the proceedings. The massage with the stones continued for a while until only my little brother remained untouched. Then she asked if I would like to have him massaged as well. Silly question of course.
The hand job that followed was sublime. It included the use of the hot stones and, although I can’t be sure as I had my eyes closed, I’m fairly sure a cream or lotion was applied because I felt a pleasurable glow under the head of my cock long after the stones were removed.
I tried to encourage the girl to remove some of her clothes to no avail but I was allowed some ‘heavy petting’ over her uniform. Again I was pleased at my self control under extreme conditions and the hand job continued for some while. I also enjoyed some dryhumping which was fantastic. She was lucky to get away without a dry cleaning bill for her uniform LOL.
When I eventually came it was with some force and sent my body into spasms and I struggled to keep my cries of ecstasy under control lest I alerted my colleague in the next cubicle. After a gentle cleanup, she and I had a very playful few minutes trying to teach each other new words in our respective languages. When she didn’t have the words she did some very funny mimes. Of course her English is better than my Indonesian.
When the telephone announced the end of my session, I received a very sweet kiss and was entreated to remember her name and number before being led back to the lounge.
Name: Cartika (I hope I have correct spelling, pronounced Char-tika)
Number 64
Looks 8/10
Body 9/10 (from what I could see)
Regular massage 8/10
Hot Stones 8/10
BBHJ 9/10 (10/10 if I had been in private)
GFE 9/10 Great personality
Cost? Don’t know, somebody else paid J
Would I recommend? Fucking right I would
SK
Part 3 of 3
After my very pleasant time at Delta Spa, I joined colleagues for Dinner and then returned to the Shangri La. I debated with my colleague whether we should go for another drink in BATS (I already knew my choice) and agreed that we would meet in the bar at 10.30pm.
Another chance to freshen up then and I headed downstairs at the appointed time.
Now, as I have attested to in earlier posts, I am neither young nor was I at the front of God’s queue when he was handing out looks. So let this serve as an indication of the ease of picking up a partner in the Shangri La. I say Shangri La as I did not even make it out of the lobby before the tables were turned and I was picked up!
It seems that I was used to gain entry by this lady but does that matter? She fed me a story about waiting for a friend that didn’t turn up. Yeah Right! She also insisted that she had only lived in Jakarta for 2 months and was training as a nurse. Also, get this, as she worked so hard and lived alone, she had made it to 29 whilst retaining her virginity. We shall see.
I was pretty knackered so I only stayed for 2 drinks with my colleague and Erma (the virgin) before offering to show her up to my room. Repeated assertions that she was a good girl and ‘I not prostitute like other girls in bar’ fell on deaf ears and I figured she knew what was about to happen.
In the room I thought I would play along with the charade and insisted that we hadn’t known each other long enough to warrant her losing her cherry to me LOL. As a result she suddenly found all sorts of reasons why she should gradually undress and then undress me :-).
Like most girls I meet in Indonesia, Erma spoke better English than my Indonesian but still the limited vocabulary started to be repeated. “I take care you, you take care me”, “I virgin, we make love you give me guarantee” (WTF). These and similar emotions and comments were repeated almost non-stop. It was relief, in more than one way, when she finally took my cock in her mouth. I think the silence was better than the BBBJ LOL.
Credit where credit is due, the BJ was great and I was enjoying it when again “I virgin, we make love you give me guarantee”. By now I had decided that this meant she expected me to see evidence of her claimed virginity and as this might involve blood and I was fresh out of condoms I declined to partake.
I made her continue the excellent BBBJ until I came. Unfortunately she had just come up for air when I chucked my load and missed the CIM but, just like a 29 year old virgin, she enthusiastically sucked and licked every drop of my cum from my cock and wherever else it had landed.
After a clean-up it was off to sleep for both of us until my alarm woke us up for another round before I had to get up and check out for my flight home. A repeat of the excellent BBBJ with a successful shot on target this time. As we were dressing she repeated the “I take care of you, you take care of me” refrain and I guessed that the question of money was on the agenda.
“How would you like me to take care of you?” I asked. “2 Million was the response” WTF?
2 minutes later she was out the door with 500k RP and lucky to have that.
Conclusion:- A no effort pick up but she would not shut up. I’ve already got a wife like that and don’t need my pussy to be the same. However a generally rewarding time, great blowjob and something soft to cuddle up to during the night.
Looks High 7/10
Body 8/10
BBBJ 8/10
GFE 6/10 talks too much
By the way, not mentioned above, great tits with ‘european’ nipples
Would I recommend? Not without taking the necessary precautions i.e. earplugs!
SK
[QUOTE=Sapperken]Cost? Don’t know, somebody else paid[/QUOTE]
Your friends spent about 500K on you at Delta that day.
[QUOTE=Smoothy]Your friends spent about 500K on you at Delta that day.[/QUOTE]
I count myself lucky to have such generous friends and colleagues.
SK
[QUOTE=XXL]Excuse me mate, but which is it to be then? 1) Clear up the money issue up front, or 2) Never ever mention the money issue oneself? Have you made up your mind?[/QUOTE]
Sorry I cut Mandiris original quote
I say clear up before you slide into the taxi
who wants to negotiate and clear up stuff at 3am with a belly of Bintangs
just my view
[QUOTE=Gzono]Sorry I cut Mandiris original quote
I say clear up before you slide into the taxi
who wants to negotiate and clear up stuff at 3am with a belly of Bintangs
just my view[/QUOTE]Fair way of looking at it, Mr Gzono. As far as I am concerned, if there is no mention of price/no nego prior to hitting the bedroom, this is a freebie. In 95% of the cases, this is what happens -- I have only had 2 surprises where in fact the girl expected some $$ but she only got taxi $$ from me.
[QUOTE=Sapperken]
She fed me a story about waiting for a friend that didn’t turn up. Yeah Right! She also insisted that she had only lived in Jakarta for 2 months and was training as a nurse. Also, get this, as she worked so hard and lived alone, she had made it to 29 whilst retaining her virginity. [/QUOTE]
I met Erma at Starbuck's Pasaraya. She was waiting for a friend that didn't turn up ;) Funny she doesn't use a different name.
Same story of her not being a bad girl etc. To cut along story short, she said she needed 2 million and she was willing to do something sinful with me if, after the 2 million, I was prepared to take care of her. Since we were very near to blok M, I said, the girls over there accept 300K for ST or 500K for LT (it was 19.00 PM; after 24.00 PM it would have been 300K for LT) and she was cute enough to take care of herself. Of course she accepted!
(Knight 1001 and JAD2, I told you about this encounter when we were having a drink at D's place.)
But with some lame excuse I left her, because someone more attractive was waiting for me. So I can't tell you about her virginity :(
Bottom line for "big spenders": Don't get impressed by the amount the girls at BATS, TigaPuluh or CJ ask. 500K should do for LT!
[QUOTE=Menteng]I met Erma at Starbuck's Pasaraya. She was waiting for a friend that didn't turn up ;) Funny she doesn't use a different name.
Same story of her not being a bad girl etc. To cut along story short, she said she needed 2 million and she was willing to do something sinful with me if, after the 2 million, I was prepared to take care of her. Since we were very near to blok M, I said, the girls over there accept 300K for ST or 500K for LT (it was 19.00 PM; after 24.00 PM it would have been 300K for LT) and she was cute enough to take care of herself. Of course she accepted!
(Knight 1001 and JAD2, I told you about this encounter when we were having a drink at D's place.)
But with some lame excuse I left her, because someone more attractive was waiting for me. So I can't tell you about her virginity :(
Bottom line for "big spenders": Don't get impressed by the amount the girls at BATS, TigaPuluh or CJ ask. 500K should do for LT![/QUOTE]Guys, this is so funny. Having read your posts, it occurs to me that I too have banged this Erma (-phrodite? ) in almost similar circumstances. She hangs out very often in the couches of the lobby or at the loudge at the Mulia Hotel. One night sometime in January this year I picked her up and she talked and talked and talked non-stop indeed. She did not talk anything about virginity, she said she was studying to be a nurse in Jakarta, she asked for some financial support for her mum who had just had an operation. LOL! Her BJ skills were great I do agree. But she would not shut up and also she kept talking about the future together (kids etc). WTF! Anyway I gave her 300k in the morning and kicked her out of the room.
[QUOTE=Mandiri]... but it seems to me like ONLY IF the chemistry is right between the client and the girl ... Am I missing something ? Cheers,[/QUOTE]
Bro Mandiri,
Yeah .... err, I think. What I find is that it's always easier when we focus on making them laugh, and they do relax a lot more and a lot faster. Maybe most customers are forcing them to drink, and grope them all over the place, you know, SOP. (Let me just say I like SOP as well. ;))
I just left Kasimucho Bozu, a Japanese style karaoke in Blok M, no takeouts. But, I think, one or two more visits and I can probably try to ask the gal for dinner and ... hopefully, free session.
When we pay a bit more attention, and start cracking jokes, they definitely warm to us ... but, I should ask Bros Menteng, MD II, Smoothy and Ebowan to step in at this juncture.
Best,
Panya
Hi Mandiri,
Sorry in delay for answering your query on the Photoforum regarding my last posting.
P4P or Freebie ? Well you know how it is, she has been a "friend" for quite sometime and so things are never free, a bit of shopping and pulsa etc. When you consider that the barmaids make around 450K IDR a month plus a share of tips I don't mind helping out a little bit now and then.
Unbelievable. I have met Erma exactly in similar situation. Mulia hotel lobby. virginity intact. 29yrs. not sex experience yet. nursing rep working in a hospital. said would be interested in first experience. quite obvious pick up, but comes with a story. since i had to go elsewhere, i left her standing there.
Anyways, good to she's a sure shot and not a seduction adventure, as the latter would have been more interesting.
Thanks guys, more proof that this forum is GREAT!
[QUOTE=Mandiri]Guys, this is so funny. Having read your posts, it occurs to me that I too have banged this Erma (-phrodite? ) in almost similar circumstances. She hangs out very often in the couches of the lobby or at the loudge at the Mulia Hotel. One night sometime in January this year I picked her up and she talked and talked and talked non-stop indeed. She did not talk anything about virginity, she said she was studying to be a nurse in Jakarta, she asked for some financial support for her mum who had just had an operation. LOL! Her BJ skills were great I do agree. But she would not shut up and also she kept talking about the future together (kids etc). WTF! Anyway I gave her 300k in the morning and kicked her out of the room.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Zackforfun]Unbelievable. I have met Erma exactly in similar situation. Mulia hotel lobby. virginity intact. 29yrs. not sex experience yet. nursing rep working in a hospital. said would be interested in first experience. quite obvious pick up, but comes with a story. since i had to go elsewhere, i left her standing there.
Anyways, good to she's a sure shot and not a seduction adventure, as the latter would have been more interesting.
Thanks guys, more proof that this forum is GREAT![/QUOTE]He he he, this Erma has definitely seen quite a few ceilings ! LOL.
[QUOTE=Mandiri]He he he, this Erma has definitely seen quite a few ceilings ! LOL.[/QUOTE]
And ISG members :D
Fair way of looking at it, Mr Gzono. As far as I am concerned, if there is no mention of price/no nego prior to hitting the bedroom, this is a freebie. In 95% of the cases, this is what happens -- I have only had 2 surprises where in fact the girl expected some $$ but she only got taxi $$ from me.
I wonder what the board think of this strategy. I have had some freebies but I reckon if you get a take away at Blok M etc then you must almost certainly assume that she is their for work (OK a few just want a bule but bottom line $ is the decider) and she may just be discrete not to mention money until later
Yes call it taxi money or whatever but I think you must pay at least 300K to get laid AND I reckon they deserve payment!
Considering the chance of Erma being what we all have in common, we should consider making her our official indonesian section mascot. She is creative. (working in medical industry) she has the most unusual story so far. (29 and virgin, not many can expect to get away with that) and has a penchant for weaving a tale to get laid. One can't blame her for trying, I am sure many of us would not disclose our real lives in the process of getting laid. Right?
Incidentally, I forgot to mention that she hit me with a new approach that I found quite different. As she drew me into a conversation about staying there for a business conference, she opened her bag and showed me the Mulia hotel room card, saying she had just checked out of the hotel since company expense was only till conference lasted, and is looking for a cheaper hotel to move into, and if I had any ideas. He he, I wonder who she ripped off last. I think she does meet the occassional one that she can con, the rest of us are smart enough to get laid at her minimum expense. Interesting thought. Its like a competition, who rips off who. There is somethign about girls like Erma, if one is not Schizo shy, it could be quite an adventure.
Cheerios,
Zack
[QUOTE=Mandiri]He he he, this Erma has definitely seen quite a few ceilings ! LOL.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Gzono]Fair way of looking at it, Mr Gzono. As far as I am concerned, if there is no mention of price/no nego prior to hitting the bedroom, this is a freebie. In 95% of the cases, this is what happens -- I have only had 2 surprises where in fact the girl expected some $$ but she only got taxi $$ from me.
I wonder what the board think of this strategy. I have had some freebies but I reckon if you get a take away at Blok M etc then you must almost certainly assume that she is their for work (OK a few just want a bule but bottom line $ is the decider) and she may just be discrete not to mention money until later.
Yes call it taxi money or whatever but I think you must pay at least 300K to get laid AND I reckon they deserve payment![/QUOTE]Gzono, this is not about what the board will "vote" for. If your strategy works for you, great. My strategy works for me. So no issues at at all.
A 29 yo virgin nurse in the hotel lobby of the Mulia longing for her first experience.. hahaha, this must be one of the best jokes, what a cracker. I would LOVE to see the sincerity on her face when she tells this, priceless. .. Do we dare to ask if there will be any poor blokes that actually believe her story?
Have been buzzing around the North Jakarta spas as a change from the usual Jartika/Berlian/Maribaya circuit.
Best place was Sari Ayu, located down a side road along with several other places (Royal, MTR, Diva, Kristal, etc.). As described in Jktnoobie's excellent post in January 2007, this place is well light and filled with young cuties, ages 18-23.
The mamasan recommended "Mala," slender figure, young, long bleached blonde hair, claimed to be 21 but looked younger (but legal), clearly had never had any children. Cute face and great body, but no English at all, and no GFE service, just laid there on the bed, didn't even offer to help me shower at the beginning or end. However, after some DATY she definitely warmed up and responded nicely, decent uncovered BJ and nice covered FS ending. Cost was 220,000 rupiah (payable up front) and a tip. I have her cell phone number for seniors and other valued members of the board.
One drawback was that after the DATY she seemed pissed that I paused to put on the condom, indicating that she wanted me to go bareback, but I refused.
Interesting, the girls here dress exactly the same as at Hotel Travel and Monggo Mas in Kelapa Gading. And like the girls that I've had at those two places, Mala is from Indramayu, which may explain her youth, good looks, no English and lack of GFE service.
Worst experience was at the Virgin Spa, just off of Fatahillah Square. From previous posts, I had gotten the impression that this was a lower-end place and walking into this dump only confirmed that impression. However, they wanted 300,000 rupiah, I was told that it was 100,000 for the room and 200,000 fee to the girl. The mamsan walked me up to the room and the girl showed up a minute later, her face was ok but she was chunky and suspiciously young-looking, and from her nervous giggle and the look on her face I could tell that she clearly didn't want to be there, so I immediately walked out - just not my style.
Stopped by Beverly Spa the same afternoon that I had visited Virgin Spa, for a quick look but did not stay. There's a huge banner outside announcing reduced prices from 12 Noon to 5 p.m. on weekdays. Walked inside and learned that a massage with a local girl was 180,000 rupiah and a session with a Chinese girl was 1,150,000 rupiah, not sure if those prices are all inclusive or if there's a room charge on top of those numbers. I hope to go back here soon for a session and will report on that.
[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]The mamasan recommended "Mala," [/QUOTE]
That's interesting. I have yet to meet a non-local who doesn't get Mala thrust at them first. Alot of the girls there frown on going with bules, but Mala doesn't seem to mind. I have always found that the girls who dye their hair outlandish colors are the ones who also don't mind going with us bules. When I went with Mala about 6 months ago, Mala's hair was a mix of pink and yellow.
I agree that her service is poor overall with no GFE whatsoever. That's why I never repeated with her. But I did find her attractive.
[QUOTE=Bebek]I telphoned Kartika the other day to see if my favorite would be there during my upcoming visit to Jakarta. I spoke with the mamasan and asked about 'Tuti' and she said which one, number 25 or 43?
It got me thinking now - how to solve the mystery/identity of the famous 'Cynthia' seeing there are more that one Cythia that works there.
Anyone know her (the origional Cynthia's) number so I can at least have the pleasure of inspection on my next visit?[/QUOTE]Hi Bebek,
Can you share the telephone number of Kartika?
Just got sent to Indonesia and I tend to hang out in the Tebet area since its close to where I live. I assumed it was far from mongering but apparently I am spoiled fo rchoice since there are the "spa's" within a block of each other and to top it off next to my now beloved gado gado boplo. If you are on casablanca heading to kuningan there is a street parallel to the entrance to gudang peluru called assam baris. Went to Unique spa which would be on your almost immediate left and got a vitalizing massage which ended up being an alat vital massage. Got a girl named silvi. Petite beautiful small breasts nice round perky ass, probably javanese with a little Chinese mixed in. Now a massage were all the attention is on my vital tool is a new thing for me just been here a (couple of weeks). Halfway through I get the special service misterrrr and I say yes I am definately foreign so I assume prices were a bit high for me but you can get a tug job for 150 and a blow for around 300. I have to paraphrase that I havent had sex in 2 weeks so I went for the blow and ended up paying 400 with a tip more for attitude than for service and the girl's phone number in case a want a hotel visit. I know I could have gotten more in Block M but I was already here and horny. If anyone is forced into the area this is not a bad place to hang out nnow in front of unique is another spa I havent been to yet but since milkbath is on the menu I'm not very optimistic. But just down the street is Devana spa which is a good place to go if your concerned about being seen. Since it is very concealed besides being down a quiet alley. And thus my cherry on ISG gets popped.
[QUOTE=Szazel]Just got sent to Indonesia and I tend to hang out in the Tebet area since its close to where I live. And thus my cherry on ISG gets popped.[/QUOTE]
Welcome to ISG and hope to hear more about your upcoming experiences :D
[QUOTE=Joe Marieg]Hi Bebek,
Can you share the telephone number of Kartika?[/QUOTE]Kartika is at Jalan Hayum Wuruk No. 114/32
Phone 639 7211
Open 11am to 11pm
There are two shifts, day and evening although I reckon many girls hang around all day there.
Two mamasans work there, one each shift. Ibu Yayuk is the best. Tell her exactly what you want and she will suggest a few options.
Once I decided to not take her advice and chose my own girl.
As I climbed the stairs with my chosen girl, 'Yuni' a lovely tall thing from Ciribon, I glanced over my shoulder and saw Bu Yayuk standing at the bar staring at me with a frown on her face.
Yuni turned out to be like the 'Ciribon Express' and when I returned to the bar less than an hour later Bu Yayuk came up to me and whispered in my ear "She was very fast wasn't she? Next time take my advice." Spot on Bu!
If you phone Kartika you better be able to speak Indonesian otherwise you will be wasting your rupiah.
And if you do meet up with Bu Yayuk, please give her a tip too. Rp20K will put a big smile on her face and she will look after you like your mum!
'Silahkan'
[QUOTE=Joe Marieg]Hi Bebek,
Can you share the telephone number of Kartika?[/QUOTE]Kartika, Hayam Wuruk – 639-7211
Went to BATS on my own the other night (being a Saturday night). And I managed to get another freebie -- I was surprised myself (!). Sharing with all of you so hopefully you too can get freebies there, there are many cases at BATS where there is no reason to pay after all (see some previous posts on the subject by Yours Truly).
I was having dinner by the bar about 10pm or so, the crowds were pretty thin but starting to build up. A good looking chick (who was with one of her female friends) caught my eye and we established a good contact for a few minutes. She obviously was a WG. Having finished my dinner I then went circling around and about 30mn or so after our initial eye contact, I went to meet Zita (this is her name) and we chatted and had a good time. She did not conceil the fact that she is at BATS almost daily and that this was her bread-earner. Hearing this (and disliking the prospect of having to P4P), I soon used a trick that works well for me: I told her that I am heading to my place being a bit tired but want to see her again to go out together, why don't you give me your number bla bla bla (in short, I am trying to establish that I like her for who she is and I want to be friends with her vs an immediate bang on a P4P basis). The usual reply comes swiftly: "are you going home alone? why?" and such comments along those lines. This is where 70% of the job is usually done. She then comes along with me, having at no point talked any $$$, and we had a very GFE night with wake-up with a great BBBJ-doggy. About 10am she left my room asking for no $$$. I was a happy man, having had a GFE night with a good-looking WG from BATS at no charge (not even taxi $$$).
I hope my tactics can work for some of you guys and you can enjoy the same terms and conditions (LOL!).
Happy mongering in the city of all mongerings !
Hey,
Has anyone on this board shagged Zita yet and what is your experience with her? She mostly hangs out, per my previous report, at BATS. She is from Padang and is quite a nice girl. Great BBBJ skills, though she would not engage in CIM (at least with me:.(. Very nice little ass, smooth skin, OK breasts, not big but not small, Brazilian beaver. Keen to please (she said I could come anywhere on her (except CIM:.(Have not tried anal with her. Interested in hearing other mongers' experience with her.- and also how much she typically charges (I got away with a frrebie from her, but I know she usually charges for a bang).
Cheers
[QUOTE=Menteng]
Bottom line for "big spenders": Don't get impressed by the amount the girls at BATS, TigaPuluh or CJ ask. 500K should do for LT![/QUOTE]Exactly, Mr Menteng. As per my recent experiences (and related posts) of BATS suggest, I would even say: FOC! It is even easier to get FOC at CJ's where there are more girls out there for fun vs BATS (where most girls ar P4P).
[QUOTE=Mandiri]About 10am she left my room asking for no $$$. I was a happy man, having had a GFE night with a good-looking WG from BATS at no charge (not even taxi $$$).
I hope my tactics can work for some of you guys and you can enjoy the same terms and conditions (LOL!).
[/QUOTE]
When I first arrived in Jakarta, I used to think this was a good thing to do. But I was quite naive back then. Whenever a girl wouldn't ask for money, I didn't give her any. However, it didn't take me long to come to the realization that this is completely unfair. Overall, the girls in Indonesia are still nicer girls than the hard core girls you'll find in Thailand and the Philippines. They free lance and many times don't ask for any money. That's not because they don't want or need money, it's because they are a bit more reserved and are for the most part actually shy to ask for money.
I'd venture a guess that if I really wanted, I could get away with not giving the girls money about 50% of the time. However, is this really fair to the girls? Don't kid yourself, these girls going home with you do not have jobs that allow them to go to places like Bats, CJ's, etc and wear the nice clothes they wear, go to the beauty salon etc. If they are going home with you the first night they meet you, they are not a girl who works in an office making 10 million rupiah a month. They are looking for some spending money and the thing that keeps them showing up to places where we can take them home is the fact that the guys they meet will do the right thing and slip them a little money on their way out the door. I've seen many times where girls will stop hitting the clubs because they meet too many guys who don't give them money and they just can't seem to bring themselves to demand it. The other case are the girls who become hard core Bats girls who go there every night and demand money up front. (I hate that.)
As I mentioned before, many girls won't demand money in Indonesia. However, is it fair to not give her money after a full night of sex? I don't think so. If you don't give some money to the sweet girls who don't demand money, then eventually we will have nothing but hard core girls who negotiate money up front. I've noticed a trend to those type of girls lately. I've lived in Jakarta for 7 years now. When I first came to town, it was very rare for a girl to "demand" money or ask for it up front. Now it's getting to be more and more the norm. I try to make it a point to never take a girl home who negotiates money up front. But that's getting more and more rare. I'm guessing it's due to cases like Mandiri just mentioned where the girls are getting stiffed.
In my opinion, if the girl goes home with you and takes care of you, it's your obligation to give her at least something. I actually feel bad about the times when I didn't give them money back in the old days. I really didn't realize that the girls needed that money and just weren't demanding money because they were nicer than the hard core business girls. There were even times that I'd ask them "do you need some money?" and they would say no. (But really they needed that money desperately.)
There are a few girls who don't want or need the money. But I find that if I offer a girl 400k for taxi money home, she will take it if she needs it. If she is truly a "nice" girl, she will refuse it and say "what do you think I'm a hooker?". But that has never happened with a girl I've taken home the very first night, only with girls I've taken home after knowing them a couple of nights. Any response other than "I dont want your money, I'm not a hooker", and I feel it's only right to give them some money. They need it.
I think you should give a girl no less than 350k and no more than 500k for all night. Of course, it's up to everyone to make thier own decision on this. But I think you are ruining the market by chasing off the nicer girls or driving them to be forced to negotiate up front by not giving them any money.
Then again, if she was butt ugly, then maybe you were doing her a favor?
I cant believe you guys thinking you have done well if you dont have to pay. It just shows that you are a BULE with no money (jalan jaksa backpacker).
A note to Asian Rain: Wear a condom.Most the girls I see with your pics have given my friends clyamidia and not to mention other stuff.
If you want a free challenge then don't go to bats, try something harder like Dragon Fly and see if you can pick up an actress, now thats a standard to set.
No offense Mandiri, I too once used to do what u did, i.e. free shag with glee, but it doesnt go too far.
I completely agree with Smoothly that its good to try take a judgement call if they are in for the cash, rather than wait to hear from them or make them change their style the next time around. Of course we dont want to offend the ones who dont want money, but will definitely make the ones who do need money regret ever going out with you. Mostly, one can get a sense of that after a night filled with conjoined loins and lips?
besides, the ones who are not in for the money have tell-tale signs that they already have a sugar daddy and are in just for the fun. They may have a car, expensive cellphones, clothes, jewellery, etc that she cant really afford peddling her ass for 300K thrice a week. In my experience, they are mainly married or have a boyfriend out of town and looking for stress relief or hunting a new boyfriend. There are plenty like these, but are the choosy/picky ones ( a good indicator by itself, compared to the ones who are easy to hook). If u get one of these, u will get PLENTY of hints that they are not the P4P types from the conversation (if u have time for that!)
There's no such thing as a free lunch... You will only not pay the first time. And its people like us who play a role in making them think commercial or remain GFE, something that used to be unique only to Indonesia and is fast diminishing.
My standard policy is, try and get a sense if the girl wants something or not, and then decide on taking her back or not.
[QUOTE=Smoothy]When I first arrived in Jakarta, I used to think this was a good thing to do. But I was quite naive back then. Whenever a girl wouldn't ask for money, I didn't give her any. However, it didn't take me long to come to the realization that this is completely unfair. [/QUOTE]
Looks like I posted in the wrong place, so here it is again by Request
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[QUOTE=Smoothy]When I first arrived in Jakarta, I used to think this was a good thing to do. But I was quite naive back then. Whenever a girl wouldn't ask for money, I didn't give her any. However, it didn't take me long to come to the realization that this is completely unfair.....[/QUOTE]
To second Smoothy's statement, I wonder if those who feel happy by not paying anything for a night of sex do have any idea of the standard of living of those girls ...
To put things into perspective, you probably do not know that a secreatary, especially a young one, (and she has to be still good looking and nice to shag), would not earn more than 1.5 million Rupiah per MONTH at most.
That is supposed to feed her, pay for her clothing, pay for her transport, (exclusively taxis at night, and they are not cheap), pay her medical bills, her entry fee to BATS, CJ's and the like (around 70,000 Rups), pay for her drinks (minimum 50,000 Rups) when there's no one to pay for them, and more likely than not, support her family as well.
Do you know that a meal (rice + vegetables + meat) from one of the 300,000 street food stalls for locals in Jakarta cost only 7,000 Rupiahs ?
Do the maths and work out how much would she have left after she's paid for the above, provided you'd given her, say 350,000 Rups for a short time ... and then how much of her salary would have gone into that one night if you did not give her anything ...
Though this may be a blow to the ego and manhood of those who don't pay anything for sex, these girls are there ONLY to try and supplement their earnings: they don't fall in love with you at firs sight, no matter how good looking you think you are, (even if most of them prefer to be with bules), and they don't go with you only because your dick makes them go wild (no matter how well endowed you think you are too): don't kid yourself, they're in it ONLY for what they HOPE they can get from you.
But, as Smoothy said, they are usually, (though again less and less), too shy and too nice to ask for money: that does not mean they don't need it.
And last but not least, never forget that Indonesia is probably the cheapest place on earth to have great sex, even at the higher rates: in the US, you have to pay a minimum of 140 USD (1.3 million Rups) for a quickie and be done in 15 minutes in shitty asian MP's while in Europe, and depending where, you'd have to cough up a minimum of 70 Euros (840,000 Rups), for a shot in Spain while it would costs hundreds of Euros in France and elsewhere.
So, next time you take a girl back for sex in Indonesia, remember the above and be fair to her: put at least 500,000 Rups in her purse before she leaves in the morning: it's only the price of a meal for two in a medium range restaurant for expats in Jakarta, or a taxi ride fare in Europe ...
Don't be mean.
[QUOTE=Smoothy]Then again, if she was butt ugly, then maybe you were doing her a favor?[/QUOTE]Smoothy, noted all your points. I respectfully disagree, even though I agree with the taxi money part of it (say giving 50k or so, no problem). Perhaps the latter case I portrayed on the board is not a good one, but I have been in many freebie-on-the-first-night situations where the girl would have felt insulted if I had given her $$.
Most of the time, if she is in it for the money, she will allude to $$$ at the end of the session.
Clarification and disclaimer: I am here talking about high-end places such as BATS, CJ's, Tiga Puluh etc. Obviously in places like Blok M's Jalan Falatehan, giving 300-400k is a must, whether asked or not.
[QUOTE=Knight 1001]To second Smoothy's statement, I wonder if those who feel happy by not paying anything for a night of sex do have any idea of the standard of living of those girls ...
Don't be mean.[/QUOTE]Knight,
See my response on the subject to Smoothy. I have been in Jakarta for about 2 years, so I am well aware of the local circumstances that you describe, thanks.
Many of the girls will also try to turn you into a boyfriend. And trust me, you will spend so much more money on this new "girlfriend" than if you had just paid her 1 Juta for each pop.
Its amusing that the subject of payment should arise in this forum when it has also arisen in the Philippines forum under a different guise - whereby one member was accused of "spoiling the market rate" !
Perhaps we should ask Jackson to remove all comments on price in order not to upset the apple cart. But then this would defeat the purpose of the forum in terms of information sharing.
To the point however I second the comments of Smoothy and Knight 1001 in terms of at least giving something back to the girls. As for Jaimie's comments I whole heartedly agree with that having spent a few hours last week spending the same amount of money getting nowhere ! Better to have gone back to one of the regulars in CJ's struck a deal and at least had some fun and games under the covers.
Oh well we live and learn and for me am fortunate as am heading back home again tomorrow to Jakarta ! Its that kind of place !
[QUOTE=Jaimito Cartero]Many of the girls will also try to turn you into a boyfriend. And trust me, you will spend so much more money on this new "girlfriend" than if you had just paid her 1 Juta for each pop.[/QUOTE]
Totally agree.
I'm old school and said it a million times. Nothing is free, even Charles Sheen and Brad Pitt pay ;)
Better to leave taxi money and keep it arms length. Too freakin many hot ones around to be tied to a freebie!
[QUOTE=Habsfan888]If you want a free challenge then don't go to bats, try something harder like Dragon Fly and see if you can pick up an actress, now thats a standard to set.[/QUOTE]
If someone picks up a girl from Dragon Fly and gets a "freebie" from her, that is a different story altogether. I have a feeling you won't see many posts of guys getting "freebies" from there. That would be impressive.
Taking advantage of a girl from one of the "chicken" spots like Bats, CJ's, 30 or Blok M is nothing to brag about. I really feel it just causes the girls to eventually negotiate up front and spoils it for the rest of us. I try not to go with the girls who negotiate up front. But I can understand why they do it these days.
[QUOTE=Mandiri]Most of the time, if she is in it for the money, she will allude to $$$ at the end of the session.[/QUOTE]
Most times I will not repeat with a girl if she even mentions money after the session. I find that the girls who don't ask for money are always the best for GFE. Many times I'll walk the girl down to the taxi without giving her any money just to see if she says anything. I'll then hug her goodbye and slip her some money. If she didn't complain about money up to that point, I consider them a girl I'll take a second time. Like I mentioned before, that still happens about 50% of the time with the girls I take home. (I will admit that I'm selective at the bars and that the number of girls overall who ask for money is more than 50% now. I'm referring to the ones who I actually end up taking home.) Unfortunately, it used to be almost 90% who didn't ask for money 7 years ago. But back then I didn't need to do the taxi test. It was just a fact that the girls didn't mention money - with rare exceptions.
There are a few girls who have a sugar daddy who will go with guys for free. But it's pretty easy to pick those girls out after you've talked to them a bit. Those girls are bad news anyway and I avoid them. For someone visiting town for a week, they are fine. But if you live in Jakarta, you are asking for trouble going with those girls.
I look forward to some reports of guys getting freebies from the hotties at Dragon Fly....
[QUOTE=Habsfan888]
If you want a free challenge then don't go to bats, try something harder like Dragon Fly and see if you can pick up an actress, now thats a standard to set.[/QUOTE]
Oh, yes! In the morning she said:"I have no shooting these couple of days and frankly I can not be seen with you here in Jakarta, so let's go to KL. There is this nice hotel, Palace Of Golden Horses, where they have Rolls Royces at the guest's disposal and the shops at KLCC are great! Better than those at Plaza Indonesia".
Well it is said before. There are no freebies!
[QUOTE=Bebek]Kartika is at Jalan Hayum Wuruk No. 114/32
Phone 639 7211
Open 11am to 11pm
There are two shifts, day and evening although I reckon many girls hang around all day there.
Two mamasans work there, one each shift. Ibu Yayuk is the best. Tell her exactly what you want and she will suggest a few options.
Once I decided to not take her advice and chose my own girl.
As I climbed the stairs with my chosen girl, 'Yuni' a lovely tall thing from Ciribon, I glanced over my shoulder and saw Bu Yayuk standing at the bar staring at me with a frown on her face.
Yuni turned out to be like the 'Ciribon Express' and when I returned to the bar less than an hour later Bu Yayuk came up to me and whispered in my ear "She was very fast wasn't she? Next time take my advice." Spot on Bu!
If you phone Kartika you better be able to speak Indonesian otherwise you will be wasting your rupiah.
And if you do meet up with Bu Yayuk, please give her a tip too. Rp20K will put a big smile on her face and she will look after you like your mum!
'Silahkan'[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bebek]I telephoned Kartika the other day to see if my favorite would be there during my upcoming visit to Jakarta. I spoke with the mamasan and asked about 'Tuti' and she said which one, number 25 or 43?
It got me thinking now - how to solve the mystery/identity of the famous 'Cynthia' seeing there are more than one Cynthia that works there.
Anyone know her (the original Cynthia's) number so I can at least have the pleasure of inspection on my next visit?[/QUOTE]
Some interesting new posts by Bebek about Kartika, my all-time favorite MP in Jakarta.
Bebek, there is only one female named Cynthia working at Kartika, although several other girls may pretend to be "Cynthia," especially if she's upstairs with a client or not on duty. So don't ask the girls "where's Cynthia today?," instead ask the mamasan or the guy behind the payment counter (towards the back, just before the stairs and the men's room) for [B]"Cynthia, Number 90"[/B] and you'll get the real Cynthia, if she's available.
A place like Maribaya (Hotel Melawai 6th floor) has a fairly rigid "two shifts" schedule, with a changeover at 5 p.m. from the day to the evening shift. Most evening shift girls arrive just before 5 p.m., and virtually every day shift girl is gone by 5:30 p.m. unless she's with a client.
But Kartika's "two shift" schedule is much more fluid, with the girls wandering in between 12 Noon and 3 p.m. and virtually all there until 9:30 p.m. or so. And although closing time is 11 p.m., the place is usually empty by 10:30 pm if not earlier, so a monger needs to arrive by 9:30 p.m. to guarantee a session with one of the better girls.
Nothing wrong with tipping the mamasan. I also suggest tipping the towel lady upstairs 5,000 rupiah, especially if you plan to be a repeat customer here. All of the folks working here have extremely good and extremely long memories!
Speaking of memories, I had a two-girl session with Cynthia and Sonia in mid-February 2005. After two other visits later that month (neither of them with Sonia), I then went back to the US and did not visit Kartika again until December 2005 (10 months later) and was shocked when a smiling Sonia (# 146, one of the few Chinese girls working there) came up to me and said "Hi, XXX" using my real name, and asked if I would have a session with her. More recently, I saw Rista (# 115, just back from time off to have a baby, but her pussy is still tight) for the first time since February 2005 and she also remembered my name. Amazing!
[QUOTE=Habsfan888]A note to Asian Rain: Wear a condom.Most the girls I see with your pics have given my friends clyamidia and not to mention other stuff.[/QUOTE]Interesting, now it's chlamydia. I reported a few months ago a case of genital Herpes in Blok M -- most likely uncapped BJ. So keen BBBJ-ers, do so at your own risks now in Blok M. So we now have reports of herpes, chlamydia in the Blok M area, anything else, guys ?
Be safe!
[QUOTE=Zackforfun]No offense Mandiri, I too once used to do what u did, i.e. free shag with glee, but it doesnt go too far.
I completely agree with Smoothly that its good to try take a judgement call if they are in for the cash, rather than wait to hear from them or make them change their style the next time around. Of course we dont want to offend the ones who dont want money, but will definitely make the ones who do need money regret ever going out with you. Mostly, one can get a sense of that after a night filled with conjoined loins and lips?
besides, the ones who are not in for the money have tell-tale signs that they already have a sugar daddy and are in just for the fun. They may have a car, expensive cellphones, clothes, jewellery, etc that she cant really afford peddling her ass for 300K thrice a week. In my experience, they are mainly married or have a boyfriend out of town and looking for stress relief or hunting a new boyfriend. There are plenty like these, but are the choosy/picky ones ( a good indicator by itself, compared to the ones who are easy to hook). If u get one of these, u will get PLENTY of hints that they are not the P4P types from the conversation (if u have time for that!)
There's no such thing as a free lunch... You will only not pay the first time. And its people like us who play a role in making them think commercial or remain GFE, something that used to be unique only to Indonesia and is fast diminishing.
My standard policy is, try and get a sense if the girl wants something or not, and then decide on taking her back or not.[/QUOTE]Totally agree with you, Zackforfun. 90% of my freebies are from girls looking to have fun (or/and having a good job/benefactor), the rest is from FL/WG or girls on the border who happen to give me a freebie.
And again, I agree that in the Blok M's Jalan Falatehan area, whether asked or not, the rate os 300-400k, no discussion.
[QUOTE=Menteng]Oh, yes! In the morning she said:"I have no shooting these couple of days and frankly I can not be seen with you here in Jakarta, so let's go to KL. There is this nice hotel, Palace Of Golden Horses, where they have Rolls Royces at the guest's disposal and the shops at KLCC are great! Better than those at Plaza Indonesia".
Well it is said before. There are no freebies![/QUOTE]
Spot on! But a lot of them are going for Hilton, Meridien, Westin, Mandarin Oriental now - more convenient:). Not that I fell into this trap but you do see quite a few Indonesian stunners now and then at KLCC (accompanied protectively by their companions) - how did you find out Menteng?:D
MD II
[QUOTE=Mandiri]So we now have reports of herpes, chlamydia in the Blok M area, anything else, guys?[/QUOTE]
Definitely stay safe. Sexual diseases are finally starting to become prevalent on the block. I think the internet and sex tourism is mostly to blame.
[QUOTE=Master Diver II]Spot on! But a lot of them are going for Hilton, Meridien, Westin, Mandarin Oriental now - more convenient:). Not that I fell into this trap but you do see quite a few Indonesian stunners now and then at KLCC (accompanied protectively by their companions) - how did you find out Menteng?:D
MD II[/QUOTE]
You're right MDII. The location of Golden Horses is not ideal, and the shopping center at Mines (?) is nothing compared to KLCC. Maybe she has been there before and was impressed by the lake and the beach, not to mention the special means of transportation.
I met this "actress" (I don't consider a girl, reading out phrases in one of the countless Indonesian soap-series, an actress) at Club 27 in blok M. The Club doesn't exist anymore, but, do I have memories of the place!
[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]Some interesting new posts by Bebek about Kartika, my all-time favorite MP in Jakarta.[/QUOTE]In the vicinity of Kartika and Berlian are several other MPs I have heard about but have never visited. Has anyone tried these situated in the surrounding lanes of Kartika?
Hawai Massage, Melinda massage, Tin Tin Massage and Maharaja Massage.
[QUOTE=Mandiri]Interesting, now it's chlamydia. I reported a few months ago a case of genital Herpes in Blok M -- most likely uncapped BJ. So keen BBBJ-ers, do so at your own risks now in Blok M. So we now have reports of herpes, chlamydia in the Blok M area, anything else, guys ?
Be safe![/QUOTE]
There have always been reports of Chlamydia in the blok, it seems to be endemic to pro area's as it is so easily transmitted.. Herpes cases I have not heard about before but it won't be surprising as it seems to be on the rise worldwide, some countries are currently active campaigning against it.
I don't visit the blok too often anymore but in 2005 there were 2 cases of the slims, i know about. Both were drug users that also frequented the Kota area, one passed away, I don't know of the fate of the other one... so yes pls be safe!
[QUOTE=Mandiri]See my response on the subject to Smoothy. I have been in Jakarta for about 2 years, so I am well aware of the local circumstances that you describe, thanks.[/QUOTE]
Well..and I have known some Indonesian ceweks for all my life and I'm over 18.. hehehe. I think Smoothy's post is spot on.. Please note that generally girls are much more polite and respectful than any were else. It will be quite easy to take advantage by ignoring the hints, but it is not a very honorable thing to do.
Where is Dragon Fly?
I wanna step up to the challenge, but have no idea where it is, what would be a convenient hotel to stay in to go there?
Preferably one that houses Tigah, CJ or Bats so I have a plan be if needed :)
I reported on action in the airport hotel a couple of months ago. On my recent trip I confirmed what I have believed for some time, that many of the girls apparantly waiting for someone coming in off incoming international flights are merely there to be picked up.
As always, I was quick of the flight and into the arrivals area where I saw at least four girls (not together) amongst the usual crowd waiting for people coming in. I looked at them and they all smiled back so I simply picked the best one, walked up to her and said "are you waiting for me?". (This is a pretty safe approach as you could always pretend you were new in and had someone waiting for you.). The girl was around 22, very pretty and "my type" of body. She replied "maybe", so I just said "OK, perhaps we can go for coffee somewhere". She said "OK", I said "back to my hotel?" and that was it. Could not have been easier; back at my hotel we showered together and got straight down to business, a couple of hours later she was in a taxi heading home (or back to the airport for the next flight), happy with with 300k in her bag.
Later that night (Wednesday) I had a look in 30Bar: absolutely dreadful - that place has really declined in the past couple of years or so; there was nothing in there I would have had, even if I had been desperate.
What a great story B69, I can't wait to try that one myself. I am flying in next week end, though I wonder if i will achieve the same result, as I am flying domestically. I could of course hop over to Int'l arrivals.
It also makes for a far more interesting ride into town.......
[QUOTE=Liondale]Where is Dragon Fly?
I wanna step up to the challenge, but have no idea where it is, what would be a convenient hotel to stay in to go there?
Preferably one that houses Tigah, CJ or Bats so I have a plan be if needed :)[/QUOTE]On Jalan Gatot Subroto, Graha BIP. Don't go there before 11pm. Busy days are Friday, Saturday and Wednesday. Convenient hotels to achieve your purpose: Mulia (10mn away by cab at that time of the night). Other hotels in vincinity: The Sultan, and also Ritz Carlton, the Marriott.
Enjoy!
Now I know why my girlfriend wasn't there to meet me at the airport. Bulai picked her up before I arrived.
[QUOTE=Knight 1001]So, next time you take a girl back for sex in Indonesia, remember the above and be fair to her: put at least 500,000 Rups in her purse before she leaves in the morning:
Don't be mean.[/QUOTE]
Very well said.
I think there is no girl in Indonesia, who follows you for free to the hotel after knowing you for an hour or so.
She expects money for sure, and deserves it.
Paying her nothing or 50k for taxi is CC attitude at it's extreme.
Cheers!
[QUOTE=Mandiri]On Jalan Gatot Subroto, Graha BIP. Don't go there before 11pm. Busy days are Friday, Saturday and Wednesday. Convenient hotels to achieve your purpose: Mulia (10mn away by cab at that time of the night). Other hotels in vincinity: The Sultan, and also Ritz Carlton, the Marriott.
Enjoy![/QUOTE]
Crowne Plaza and Kartika Chandra are on jalan Gatot Subroto.
[QUOTE=Bulai69]I reported on action in the airport hotel a couple of months ago. On my recent trip I confirmed what I have believed for some time, that many of the girls apparantly waiting for someone coming in off incoming international flights are merely there to be picked up.
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The most logical explanation is that they were there to meet up with some mongerer getting off the plane. When she went with you , she probably called the guy with some lame excuse why she couldn't be at airport.
[QUOTE=Ekspat]Very well said.
I think there is no girl in Indonesia, who follows you for free to the hotel after knowing you for an hour or so.
She expects money for sure, and deserves it.
Paying her nothing or 50k for taxi is CC attitude at it's extreme.
Cheers![/QUOTE]I respecfully disagree. Many girls going out for fun (and knowing you for an hour or so) will have sex with you and expect no $$ in return. Same with chicks you hook up with using IM Messager chat rooms etc you may have barely chatted with for an hour or so, they will get banged (as has been reported many times before on this Board) and they don't expect $$ in return.
[QUOTE=Mandiri]I respecfully disagree. Many girls going out for fun (and knowing you for an hour or so) will have sex with you and expect no $$ in return. Same with chicks you hook up with using IM Messager chat rooms etc you may have barely chatted with for an hour or so, they will get banged (as has been reported many times before on this Board) and they don't expect $$ in return.[/QUOTE]
Can you explain to me how the girls can afford to buy the nice clothes they wear to Bats, the entry fee, the price of drinks, the taxi money, the cost of makeup, beauty salon, food, rent, etc if the guys who screw them are not giving them any money at all?
I stick with my opinion in my previous posts. I basically believe it's unethical to not give the girls something in Indonesia. In the usa, europe, etc, it's not a problem - those girls have their own money. But these girls need that money and will eventually start demanding it up front if they are stiffed by cheapstakes. I seriously think it serves no other purpose than ruining the scene for the rest of the guys in town. Is $40 - $50 alot of money to slip them for servicing you all night long? Jesus christ.
You remind me of a guy I knew who would pay $700,000 to take a girl out of Stadium for all night "because he had to", but if he took a nice girl home from Tigah Puluh and she didn't ask for money, he'd give her 50,000 for taxi money. Then that girl would ask me the next day why my friend didn't give her any money. It didn't register in his brain that if he didn't give her money, she might end up working at stadium herself.
1 Ball - maybe a long shot but if you go to arrivals about 5.30pm when LH778 comes in from Frankfurt (via Singapore) you might find the same girl(s). By the way, she wasn't up for photos so no photo to post I'm afraid.
As others have implied, she may have been just "looking" or waiting for a specific "boyfriend" and went with me on the "first come, first served principle".
Last Saturday morning I had to go to Atrium mall to buy some car spares (another story) and I had no time for hunting. However, even though it was early (11.00 - 11.15) I spotted three girls who were "looking". One was hanging around the cinema and I spoke to her and she asked if I would take her in to see the film. The other two I watched for max 2 minutes and they were pounced upon by local guys within that short period of time. I saw maybe 2 or 3 others who might have been "looking" but I didn't have time to approach them or watch them.
So nothing new there - just worth confirming that it's easy to find a girl in Atrium but you have to be QUICK.
[QUOTE=Smoothy]Can you explain to me how the girls can afford to buy the nice clothes they wear to Bats, the entry fee, the price of drinks, the taxi money, the cost of makeup, beauty salon, food, rent, etc if the guys who screw them are not giving them any money at all?[/QUOTE]Smoothy, no need to get into that kind of tone please.
Yes, the girls I am referring to here either already have a (well-paid by local standards ie one I have in mind 6.5 M Rp per month) job, or/and a husband / benefactor, and / or are students living with their parents. They would have felt insulted if I had offered them $$.
I agree with Smoothy about paying and another point relating to this is that over time, it will drive the behaviour of girls in a direction that will destroy what is good about Jakarta: the best "girl friend experience" you will get anywhere. What will happen is that girls will start demanding an agreed price up front and eventually, demanding money up front and the whole process will degenerate into a purely commercial transaction as it is almost everywhere in the West. Indeed I have to say that there is evidence of this creeping in already. Quiet often - as evidenced in this forum, girls talk about how much money they want. 10 years ago I never experienced that.
Also, non payment by some, quite obviously, simply puts the price up for others. As Smoothy says they have to fund their lifestyle and they sure as hell won't do it by working in a shop or office on 1 juta (100USD) a month or less.
The only exception which provides a "legitimate" reason to not pay is when you find a girl who is wealthy in her own right because she has some mug of a "boyfriend" who throws money at her: most BATS girls are not in that category.
[QUOTE=Hk Dog]The most logical explanation is that they were there to meet up with some mongerer getting off the plane. When she went with you , she probably called the guy with some lame excuse why she couldn't be at airport.[/QUOTE]
Hmmm, I think they were there to accompany the only person they really, really love, who's just left for the periodical journey to Europe/the States ;).
[QUOTE=Bulai69]
The only exception which provides a "legitimate" reason to not pay is when you find a girl who is wealthy in her own right because she has some mug of a "boyfriend" who throws money at her: most BATS girls are not in that category.[/QUOTE]
I disagree, and am on side with Mandiri. There is another category of girls, the "good girls" as I call them, who are absolutely not interested in payment. I have three of these in Jakarta, all early thirties, living at home with parents, do not hang around places like BATS, working (usually office job or managerial position), on reasonable salaries but not brilliant, have been in a few relationships (including with foreigners) that have gone sour, and are basically looking for good sex without too many strings. I feel as if I am doing them a service!!!! The usual routine s that they drop by after work for a romp, and are on their way home by 9:30 PM. Sometimes on weekends they can queeze in an overnighter. These girls are sexually demanding, orgasmic, and know what they want, and each seems to have her own little sexual quirk. To offer these girls money would be the ultimate insult, they see themselves as "good girls", and the involvememnt of money would make them feel dirty.
BTW, these relationships I refer to have been ongoing for 2-3 years, and they are all happy to wait while I am out of Jakarta. Also, they ae not so possessive , and I think each suspects they are not "the only one", but do not raise the issue as hey don't want to soil a good thing.
OK, just my experience!
[QUOTE=Pak Mike]I disagree, and am on side with Mandiri. There is another category of girls, the "good girls" as I call them, who are absolutely not interested in payment. I have three of these in Jakarta, all early thirties, living at home with parents, do not hang around places like BATS, working (usually office job or managerial position), on reasonable salaries but not brilliant, have been in a few relationships (including with foreigners) that have gone sour, and are basically looking for good sex without too many strings. I feel as if I am doing them a service!!!! The usual routine s that they drop by after work for a romp, and are on their way home by 9:30 PM. Sometimes on weekends they can queeze in an overnighter. These girls are sexually demanding, orgasmic, and know what they want, and each seems to have her own little sexual quirk. To offer these girls money would be the ultimate insult, they see themselves as "good girls", and the involvememnt of money would make them feel dirty.
BTW, these relationships I refer to have been ongoing for 2-3 years, and they are all happy to wait while I am out of Jakarta. Also, they ae not so possessive , and I think each suspects they are not "the only one", but do not raise the issue as hey don't want to soil a good thing.
OK, just my experience![/QUOTE]
There are girls like that out there. But like you say, they aren't going to places like Bats. They consider those places to be places for "chickens" and they don't want to hang out there. I think you'll also find that those type of girls will own a car. Those type of girls are also not normally the most attractive looking. (relative to the 18-25 year old hotties you'll find at the clubs)
These are the type of girls who will yell "what do you think I am? a hooker?" when you offer them money. I wouldn't say that's the "ultimate insult" because I can think of many other things that you could say where they would never forgive you. However, they quickly forgive the money offer when you give some lame excuse like the money was just so that they had money up front to buy you pulsa or something in an emergency because you don't know where to get it.
I still say any response other than "what do you think I am? A hooker?" and they are looking for money regardless of whether they demand it or not. And basically any girl under 30 years old and not a scrag going to any of the places known to have alot of prostitutes is a girl who should have 350-500k slipped into her bag on the way out the door. Either that or pretty soon every girl in those places is going to be demanding 700k to 1 million up front. I was recently in Argentina. The girls were hot, but negotiating was a pain in the ass. I had to bargain with every girl up front about every friggin detail. How much money, how long, what kind of sex would be involved, on and on and on. Once they got to my room they were fine, but the negotiations were ridiculous. I much prefer the sweet girls in Jakarta who just leave it up to me to decide how much I give them. I'd hate to see the girls in Jakarta start negotiating like those Argentine girls.
[QUOTE=Joel Goodsen]Well..and I have known some Indonesian ceweks for all my life and I'm over 18.. hehehe. I think Smoothy's post is spot on.. Please note that generally girls are much more polite and respectful than any were else. It will be quite easy to take advantage by ignoring the hints, but it is not a very honorable thing to do.[/QUOTE]Am from Jakarta. And really surprise that this kinda block exist, and obviously yo'll know jakarta very well. But remember, not all women in Jakarta are bats!
[QUOTE=Smoothy]There are girls like that out there. But like you say, they aren't going to places like Bats. They consider those places to be places for "chickens" and they don't want to hang out there. I think you'll also find that those type of girls will own a car. Those type of girls are also not normally the most attractive looking. (relative to the 18-25 year old hotties you'll find at the clubs)
These are the type of girls who will yell "what do you think I am? A hooker? " when you offer them money. I wouldn't say that's the "ultimate insult" because I can think of many other things that you could say where they would never forgive you. However, they quickly forgive the money offer when you give some lame excuse like the money was just so that they had money up front to buy you pulsa or something in an emergency because you don't know where to get it.
I still say any response other than "what do you think I am? A hooker? " and they are looking for money regardless of whether they demand it or not. And basically any girl under 30 years old and not a scrag going to any of the places known to have alot of prostitutes is a girl who should have 350-500k slipped into her bag on the way out the door. Either that or pretty soon every girl in those places is going to be demanding 700k to 1 million up front. I was recently in Argentina. The girls were hot, but negotiating was a pain in the ass. I had to bargain with every girl up front about every friggin detail. How much money, how long, what kind of sex would be involved, on and on and on. Once they got to my room they were fine, but the negotiations were ridiculous. I much prefer the sweet girls in Jakarta who just leave it up to me to decide how much I give them. I'd hate to see the girls in Jakarta start negotiating like those Argentine girls. [/QUOTE]You guys are good, I didn't even know such a blog or website exist. M from Jakarta, but guys not all indo girl are the same, these bats are just waiting some bule to take'em out from jakarta, because they thought that you guys can change their life, so before they meet the right person, they; ll be just doing this. Bellieve me!
[QUOTE=Pak Mike]I disagree, and am on side with Mandiri. There is another category of girls, the "good girls" as I call them, who are absolutely not interested in payment. I have three of these in Jakarta, all early thirties, living at home with parents, do not hang around places like BATS, working (usually office job or managerial position), on reasonable salaries but not brilliant, have been in a few relationships (including with foreigners) that have gone sour, and are basically looking for good sex without too many strings. I feel as if I am doing them a service!!!! The usual routine s that they drop by after work for a romp, and are on their way home by 9:30 PM. Sometimes on weekends they can queeze in an overnighter. These girls are sexually demanding, orgasmic, and know what they want, and each seems to have her own little sexual quirk. To offer these girls money would be the ultimate insult, they see themselves as "good girls", and the involvememnt of money would make them feel dirty.
BTW, these relationships I refer to have been ongoing for 2-3 years, and they are all happy to wait while I am out of Jakarta. Also, they ae not so possessive , and I think each suspects they are not "the only one", but do not raise the issue as hey don't want to soil a good thing.
OK, just my experience![/QUOTE]One week 500usd, [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue]
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I agree with Pak Mike about the kind of girl you describe but they don't go to BATS either - I think that's what you said too. I have also found exactly that kind of girl but generally they are not my type in most respects, but of course "each to his own".
The fact is: 999/1000 girls in BATS who spend the night with a guy (even if it's Brad Pitt) after knowing him half an hour, do so because the expect, and need, the money.
[QUOTE=Mandiri]Smoothy, no need to get into that kind of tone please.
Yes, the girls I am referring to here either already have a (well-paid by local standards ie one I have in mind 6.5 M Rp per month) job, or/and a husband / benefactor, and / or are students living with their parents. They would have felt insulted if I had offered them $$.[/QUOTE]
Sorry if I went a little overboard with my tone. But I think you are way off base here. You mention the girl admitted she goes to bats often. So no way does she have a 6.5 million rupiah per month job but is still going to Bats every night till 2am. The likelihood that she's a student living with her parents is very slim, as mentioned previously, those type of girls are not girls who go to bats alot. She MAY have a husband/benefactor, but again, that possibility is slight. The most likely scenario is that the girl was not quite as hard core as the other girls yet so she didn't demand money. A few more guys like you, and she will start demanding money up front.
Seriously, if you want a freebie from a girl who is going with you because she likes you and not just hoping for money, I suggest going to Dragon Fly, Hard Rock or other such places. However, my guess is you will get zero freebies because in reality the girls are not going with you to give you a freebie, they are going with you hoping for money. But I hope you can prove me wrong by scoring there. There are FAR more girls in those places with 6.5 million rupiah a month jobs, students living with their parents, and with husbands/benefactors than you will ever find at Bats. So theoretically, they would be quite target rich environments by your standards.
I look forward to your next report of your freebie from Dragon Fly or Hard Rock Cafe. Good luck!
Went to Dragonfly a few weeks back, to meet a friend over there..
As soon as I came in a girl approached me and asked if she could buy me a drink. At first I thought I understood wrong. SHE bought ME a drink..
After some serious drinking and kissing, she took me in her car to her place. And what a place that was, mamma mia..What was I suppossed to do in the morning?? Leave some money on the kitchen table??
Went to CJ' with a guy..., He started to talk to a girl.., They exchanged numbers.., After that I started to chat with the girl as well.. She said she doesn't like me..Never the less, she gave me her number.., The next day me and my friend started to exchange sms's with her.., Surprisingly she wanted to see me, the other day. Met in F- bar, had some sushi, went to burgundy and after that to my place.. Hmmm, she drove in her pimped up volvo, hehehe.. What was I suppossed to do in the morning. Give her some money..?
My friend called me. He had an appointement with a girl and asked me to join, since she brought her friend with her..
We met in mistere.., Her friend never seen me before. That wan's a reason to take out my dick behind the bar after, hmmmmm 15 minutes we met..
Went to my friends place. He and the other girl in the bedroom. Me and her in the living room. What need to be happen, happend..
What was I suppossed to do?? Leave some money???
Have been at a housewarming party last week.. About 300 people, Dj's, drinks. food etc... It was great!!!
Met a girl which works at SOS as a ....... We talked the whole evening and at 3 in the morning she decided to come to my place, since here place was " too far" away.... hmmmm again. What was I suppossed to do??
Belive me, I not that kind of guy who turns every rupiah around. I have a good salary, stay by myself and get most of the things paid by my company.. I support a few aid projects financially.., Not an orang pelit.., I know that I have to pay for girls I pick up in " nightspots"..., but my experience shows me, that there are so many girls which like to have a good time, and that, if they like you, follow you...
Red square!!! You cannot imagine how many girls are there, by now unfortunalety quite a few hookers too, who are just looking for fun.. They open bottles, drink, dance and look for some guys they like..
The other ( bad) thing about it is, that some of them consider you as your boyfriend after that.. Something that cannot happen in blok m, hehehe.. But of course, there you pay..
Just my toughts.., There is a bit of truth in both (smoothy's and mandiri's) threads..
Sabbath, those are great experiences! But I think all of your scenarios are totally different from the one Mandiri had described. In his, he was most likely stiffing a working girl who was too nice to force the issue. In yours, you were going with girls casually. There's a difference. (by the way, taking a girl to Sushi and Burgundy will cost more than paying her straight away, so that was far from a freebie - but there's nothing wrong with that.)
Are you under 30 and good looking? I can't imagine a girl buying you a drink at Dragon Fly if that isn't the case. There are definitely hot party girls there looking for fun. But they are not easy to get if you are over 40 and not providing them with drugs.
[QUOTE=Smoothy]Are you under 30 and good looking? I can't imagine a girl buying you a drink at Dragon Fly if that isn't the case. There are definitely hot party girls there looking for fun. But they are not easy to get if you are over 40 and not providing them with drugs.[/QUOTE]You damn right Smoothy, but then again Mandiri could be under 30 and good looking (by girls standard, NOT mine). Sabbath must have one of those, judging from his exp. For bules, is not essential to have both, just one will do.
I am fully agree with Smoothy, but i am not fully against Mandiri either. You see, me myself are over 30 (although i am still good looking, repeat good looking, not good body) but it is refreshing to read Mandiri or Sabbath kind of report, made me remembered my good old days, dont we had those good old days Smoothy? We cant stay young and good looking forever, by understanding this you will understand why they want to SHARE their glory.
I believe we cant stop the globalization that reaching here, merely by slipping 300 to 500 into their purse. So... why dont we make our point and get done with it, I really dont wanna make those youngster thing twice before share their glory. I still need the alternative place to go out and have some fun with a chance to have GFE sex, there's so many post about Blok M and Melawai I am sure we wont lost our way.
One last thing I would like to add, whether we should or not give them money, it's absolutely our call, although Smoothy and others senior member who stay long enough in Jakarta make their point very clear, many girls in Indonesia are just to shy to ask for money especially from the foreigner, but there's also many girls in Jakarta who can afford their ways of living. So please.. make your judgement (and post) correctly, right Smoothy?
Nice FR Sabbath.. Obviously you have a comparative advantage somewhere, girls buying you drinks and picking up freebees from Dragon Fly is nothing something that's for everyone ..
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Non-commercial sex, even with pro's, is great, i'm a firm believer, but hey.. there is a difference in getting a freebee and tricking working girls - that's not ok.
[QUOTE=Mandiri]She did not conceil the fact that she is at BATS almost daily and that this was her bread-earner. Hearing this (and disliking the prospect of having to P4P), I soon used a trick ..
I hope my tactics can work for some of you guys and you can enjoy the same terms and conditions (LOL!).
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[QUOTE=Smoothy]Sabbath, those are great experiences! But I think all of your scenarios are totally different from the one Mandiri had described. In his, he was most likely stiffing a working girl who was too nice to force the issue. In yours, you were going with girls casually. There's a difference. (by the way, taking a girl to Sushi and Burgundy will cost more than paying her straight away, so that was far from a freebie - but there's nothing wrong with that.)
Are you under 30 and good looking? I can't imagine a girl buying you a drink at Dragon Fly if that isn't the case. There are definitely hot party girls there looking for fun. But they are not easy to get if you are over 40 and not providing them with drugs.[/QUOTE]
Well, I think you might categorize Sabath in the "good looking" department. Besides, he is tall, slim, young and single and I think those are advantages too! :( :(
Sabath, now I now the reason(s) why I haven't seen you around in Blok M :)
[QUOTE=Cervello]but then again Mandiri could be under 30 and good looking [/QUOTE]
I'm not saying that might not be the case. My initial intent was to point out that just because the girls aren't asking for money doesn't mean that they intended it to be a freebie. I've met guys in the past who think that just because the girl wasn't demanding money, that she didn't want any - when really that was far from the case. Like Bulai mentioned, the GFE you get in Jakarta (even from working girls) is what makes it so special. When they are forced to demand money up front, that spoils the GFE environment for all of us. I'm just suggesting that everyone be considerate of the girls and make sure that they truly would not need that money before deciding to give them nothing.
Mandiri, perhaps your experience was a unique one where the girl thought she wasn't going to make any money that night and found you to be good looking enough that she wanted to give you some free sex. However, if you really are young and good looking, Bats isn't one of the better places to be hanging out in Jakarta. There are different subcultures in this city. If you are single, young, tall and good looking, you are wasting your time at places where the working girls hang out like Bats. You can be easily getting laid for free at other places in the city.
Time to move on to another more interesting topic. I think a Sabbath fan club is in order here. I want to hang out with Sabbath just to try to pick up some of his left overs!
[QUOTE=Smoothy]Time to move on to another more interesting topic. I think a Sabbath fan club is in order here. I want to hang out with Sabbath just to try to pick up some of his left overs![/QUOTE]Thats my point, this topic is getting dull.
Please note Smoothy point, when the girls dont ask for money it doesnt mean she doesnt need it.
I think Sabbath should post his night activities, can Jackson open this special threat? Perhaps under the name of Freebies? Many women will appreciate this. :D
Can I join the Sabbath fan club too? Please.
Hi Every one,
I'm new to this forum. I'm planning to go to Jakarta for my first time. Any idea which hotel I should stay and the happening scen with the best girl?
I appreciate for any help here on the info. You are much welcome to send me any contact nr as well.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Smoothy]If you are single, young, tall and good looking, you are wasting your time at places where the working girls hang out like Bats. You can be easily getting laid for free at other places in the city.[/QUOTE]And where might this young, tall single male find these places?
Apologies in advance, this report may get me flamed again by Smoothie and others, but that's OK, this is a free world, Smoothie brings some valuable points though the tone is a little condescending as I find it.
I spent the evening at BATS with a (guy) friend the other night and an absolute stunner showed up about 1. 30am, just before the close (this being a Monday). She was so stunning that I simply did not dare to go and talk to her. Upon leaving the place, I sat in the couch in the lobby and. There she is, on her way out alone. This is where I jumped on her and said how I like her, how much I'd like tospend time with her bla bla bla. Off we go with an exchange of hp numbers promising to each other tomeet the following day. Over the course of the following day, we exchange SMS and agree to meet at Mistere (Ritz Carlton), this being a Tuesday night therefore salsa night. Was at Mistere with a friend well before her, she calls me when her taxi approaches the hotel, I go to meet her in the main lobby and when she comes in, the whole flippin' lobby stares at her, 3 bule businessmen almost choke. She is so beautiful!
Off we go to the salso bar, then the other disco with the (great) band, and we have drinks, dance together. Next thing I know is I am on my way to my hotel with Alexa, 24 yo, who does some modelling jobs occasionally (thats her), and delightful night of GFE love-making. It goes without saying that I did not pay, and will meet her again soon.
Another great experience in JKT, you've got to love it!
[QUOTE=Gonad Man]And where might this young, tall single male find these places?[/QUOTE]
Your target chicks should be the upper class indos who are trying to be cool by dating a hot bule. Dragon Fly, Vertigo (at Semanggi), Mistere (I've never been, but heard it's good), Retro (crowne plaza), Embassy (taman ria), Barbados (kemang), Red Square would all be likely hunting grounds.
Also, the new place at Senayan seems to be the hot place now. I've never been there, but everyone tells me that's the place to go. X2 or something like that, I forget since I've yet to visit. Honestly, if you are a young good looking bule, there are not many places in Jakarta where you can't pick up girls. But if you're wanting one night freebies, I think you should target those upper class indo party girls.
Anyone have any success at that new place in Senayan?
I thought I should bring the matter of the freebie I got from a WG (Zita) at BATS to a conclusion. It raised quite a bit of anger from such members as Smoothie on the theme of "GFE's will disappear in JKT and all gals will ask $$ upfront".
Since my freebie night with Zita, I met her at BATS a couple of times (of course, she is there about 6 nights a week). And on those two occasions, she wanted to go with me (though she is obviously very well aware (! ) that she only got semen from me and no $$ the first time we met), and was very jealous (giving me mean looks) when I was talking to other gals.
Point is made and I too sugget we move on to other topics.
And yes, to answer some of the questions on the Board, I happen to have the luck of gals liking me a lot in SE Asia in general.- this is no bragging, the reality of my (lucky) circumstances. I am no brad pitt, but in my 30's, bule, fit, tall, very white skin, the Indo gals seem to like me. Recently a receptionist of a prospective (business client) was trying to get my hp digits when I was at the reception announcing myself to the prospect (! ). I was shocked.
"there is a difference in getting a freebee and tricking working girls - that's not ok." - 100% agree, that's the whole point
[QUOTE=Smoothy]Your target chicks should be the upper class indos who are trying to be cool by dating a hot bule. Dragon Fly, Vertigo (at Semanggi), Mistere (I've never been, but heard it's good), Retro (crowne plaza), Embassy (taman ria), Barbados (kemang), Red Square would all be likely hunting grounds.[/QUOTE]Embassy and Retro? Less challenge than at the other ones you mentioned.
[QUOTE=Menteng]Well, I think you might categorize Sabath in the "good looking" department. Besides, he is tall, slim, young and single and I think those are advantages too! :( :(
Sabath, now I now the reason(s) why I haven't seen you around in Blok M :)[/QUOTE]Hey Menteng,
Thanks for the flowers.
Well, tall and single is correct. Not sure about the slim and young, hehehe. The Jakarta lifestylie is putting some weight around my waist. And I will be 35 soon. I just look younger, thanks to my healthy lifestyle. Sex, drugs and reggae music, hehehe.
Let me know, when you are back. I own you one is D's
For the others. It is not my intention to SHARE my glories. Check all my reports. I never mentioned any freebies in any other FR's. Since we had this topic, I just wanted to tell my point of you.
Many of the richer kids, especially within the Indo-Chinese crowd, are not that keen on dating bules, i find. I'm not too old either, but at times lack patience and tend to opt for a surer bet..
If you're up for a challenge, maybe add Babyface - Jakarta theatre building, to the mentioned Vertigo/X-Lounge plaza Semanggi, Dragon Fly, Mistere in the Ritz.. Barbados in Kemang has lovely life music, but will be a relatively safe place to go out and take gf to.
Hi,
Out of curiosity, I recently went to Bugils with a friend to check this place out -- it was my first time there. Looks like a place with a lot of regular folks having a beer after work and most of whom seem to know one another. Lots of guys compared to gals. There's a couple of very nice and good looking bar girls. The live band was OK. I talked to a couple of girls, but not much came out of it. Does anyone have good experiences of chatting up girls there ?
PS, anecdote: there is a bule guy there who seems tobe a regular and who plays pools with a single hand and keeps winning. Incredible, very talented.
Hello Guys,
New here. Just registered a few minutes ago. I have been to Jakarta once I think about 3 weeks back. Stayed at a screwed up hotel. So far away from everything. Was wondering where to stay and where can I find beautiful ladies example models. I'll pay for it. I have been to BATS only during my 1st visit. Heard about this HAILAI discotheque. Didn't go there cause alot of people say that place is not safe: (.
Please advise me guys
Cheers.
[QUOTE=Exit93]Hello Guys,
New here. Just registered a few minutes ago. I have been to Jakarta once I think about 3 weeks back. Stayed at a screwed up hotel. So far away from everything. Was wondering where to stay and where can I find beautiful ladies example models. I'll pay for it. I have been to BATS only during my 1st visit. Heard about this HAILAI discotheque. Didn't go there cause alot of people say that place is not safe: (.
Please advise me guys
Cheers.[/QUOTE]
Spend a little time reading. Tons of information here.
[QUOTE=Mandiri]Does anyone have good experiences of chatting up girls there ?
PS, anecdote: there is a bule guy there who seems tobe a regular and who plays pools with a single hand and keeps winning. Incredible, very talented.[/QUOTE]
I don't know of anyone who has gotten lucky there. That's a place to have a few beers and chat up the waitresses, but don't expect to get very far with them.
I've never seen the one handed pool guy. That sounds like an attraction in itself.
[QUOTE=Mandiri]Hi,
Out of curiosity, I recently went to Bugils with a friend to check this place out -- it was my first time there. Looks like a place with a lot of regular folks having a beer after work and most of whom seem to know one another. Lots of guys compared to gals. There's a couple of very nice and good looking bar girls. The live band was OK. I talked to a couple of girls, but not much came out of it. Does anyone have good experiences of chatting up girls there ?
PS, anecdote: there is a bule guy there who seems tobe a regular and who plays pools with a single hand and keeps winning. Incredible, very talented.[/QUOTE]
A guy kept telling me i should go there, so i did, once, and I think I came out of it faster than I got in: definitely NOT a place for the monguerer that I am ...
This is a kinda semi-straight place where, as smoothy puts it, buddies hang out to get thrashed on beer and booze, and certainly not to get the adrenaline shoot up gradually by screening the incoming and moving chicks and their asses, (like we do), weighing our chances of a good lay or a wild night; those guys are not hunters: they're like sitting ducks (well, that's the impression i got anyway)... even the girls there seemed only interested by the regulars they were waiting for.
Hope i did not offend anyone here as I did not mean to.
Cheers.
[QUOTE=Knight 1001]A guy kept telling me i should go there, so i did, once, and I think I came out of it faster than I got in: definitely NOT a place for the monguerer that I am ...
This is a kinda semi-straight place where, as smoothy puts it, buddies hang out to get thrashed on beer and booze, and certainly not to get the adrenaline shoot up gradually by screening the incoming and moving chicks and their asses, (like we do), weighing our chances of a good lay or a wild night; those guys are not hunters: they're like sitting ducks (well, that's the impression i got anyway)... even the girls there seemed only interested by the regulars they were waiting for.
Hope i did not offend anyone here as I did not mean to.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]
Your comment bout sitting ducks is excellent, I know this place either and I straight went out again with the same impression.
They should be lucky that former minister of defense Dick Cheney didn't show up there hahaha.
MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU
Ebowan
As bad a place as Bugils is to try to pick up chicks, I wouldn't be suprised if Sabbath has the waitresses there slipping him free drinks and giving him BJ's behind the bar.
Some guys have all the luck. :)
[QUOTE=Mandiri]Yesterday was the grand opening of the Blackpearl in Senayan -- a new high-end bar/lounge a la Dragonfly. Obviously too early to call how good this place will be. Obviously also unlikely to become a pick-up joint a la CJ's, however could be a good place to meet some high-end chicks and bang them soon afterwards (courting here is rarely a several weeks/months affair like in the West, as we all know) so the bang could come pretty fast for those who can afford to have one date before the shag.
A place to be put on the watch-list.[/QUOTE]Talking about challenges, Black Pearl in Senayan should be a good place for that. I was talking to one of their waitresses the other night whom I met by chance in a bar, she said that Black Pearl is busy mostly on Fridays and Saturdays, lady's night is on Wednesday nights. I went to their opening night a month ago (see quoted report) and this is very high-end stuff indeed. Will try to go there soon and will report back if anything meaningful comes out.
I don't see any reports on HaiLai D: (. But well. I'm going to JKT on the 10th June. 13th June. Any of you guys wanna meet up? We can go fishing together. I really need to fuck models. I guess been watching too much porn: (. LOLZ. Got 3000 titles haha: (. Well. Where is the best place to stay>? How bout 1 night drinks on me.
Ex
Halai is all the way north at the front of Ancol. But that place is old, well ancient, news. You are not going to find the "model" stocks there. If you truly are a guy who needs models and you don't have the right agent connection, the you should go to Zen. Zen is more of a Karaoke - lounge place than straight p4p. Here you will book a girl to drink with you and keep you company only. Then its up to you and her wether your booking will extend tothe bedroom. However, you can tell the mommy you only want girls who are willing to go back to your room. The are usually some girls of very high quality here, and a lot of fun. While not really any models you will find certainly high quality SPG type girls. Many of the hostesses here are truly in the semi pro mode. Also if you book a karaoke room here, you can get some wild and nasty strippers in the room. These girls will give you an hour of titillation that will usually end up with bathroom BJ, HJ, and other shenanigan's for tips. I have a regular girl who works as one of these strippers, and she gives some of the best deep throat ever. Alas she is no model type. And of course she swears she doesn't give any customers extras! hehehehe. I arrived in Jakarta at night, just not last night. Don't waste your time PM'ing request for her name and contact. Find your own dam girls!
[QUOTE=Exit93]I don't see any reports on HaiLai D: (. But well. I'm going to JKT on the 10th June. 13th June. Any of you guys wanna meet up? We can go fishing together. I really need to fuck models. I guess been watching too much porn: (. LOLZ. Got 3000 titles haha: (. Well. Where is the best place to stay>? How bout 1 night drinks on me.
Ex[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Smoothy]Also, the new place at Senayan seems to be the hot place now. I've never been there, but everyone tells me that's the place to go. X2 or something like that, I forget since I've yet to visit. Honestly, if you are a young good looking bule, there are not many places in Jakarta where you can't pick up girls. But if you're wanting one night freebies, I think you should target those upper class indo party girls.
Anyone have any success at that new place in Senayan?[/QUOTE]
Hi Brothers,
The place is called X2, and it is made up of 3-4 different concepts (in terms of music), with a dining area as well. I had a meeting with the Marketing Manager to discuss a propsective promotional event for one of our clients. At that time, they had not fully launched the full concept yet, and I had a chance to do a walk-through of the place, where I could see that renovation/construction was still going on in some areas -- it was in the afternoon that I went.
According to him, there's usually a queue of "... thousands of people ..." on weekends, and they sell memberships of Platinum - Rp 50 million, Gold - Rp 7 million, and Silver (I think ) Rp 1.8 million. There's a cover charge of Rp 80,000 to get in, which gets you the 1st drink free.
There's 12 shareholders in all, and one of them is the owner of Red Square.
Anyway, just to let Bros JAD and Menteng know that I'm "back in circulation" on the mongering scene. Was involved with a single, cute, career lady in her late 20s for 6 months, and it got too heavy as she wanted a long term commitment, and was pretty mad that I couldn't comply. What followed was not pretty ... the usual tears, hysterics, and accusations. :(
I do envy Bro Mandiri for his ability to love 'em and leave 'em where the classy babes are concerned, but I guess that's what you get for being a long cool john :)
To tell the truth, I got into this relationship after being jaded with the P4P, as after 4 years of monthly visits to Jakarta, I felt I needed familiarity with someone who's classy and intellectual (besides being good in bed).
I have learnt my lesson ... until the next time, that is. ;)
Best,
Panya
guys,
i know this post will make quite a few of you (inlcuding me! ) freak out but this is the reality sadly. as i am writing these lines, i am in bed with a wg from bats who has just told me of the story of santi (her bats name), a 24 yo javanese girl (her real name: kasuci), who's been in the business for about 11 years including working in malaysia, batam and who setteled to bats until about 1 month ago. 1 month ago, she went to hospital because of her disastrous state (bronchytis etc) with the wg i am with tonight (her neighboor). santi was diagnosed with hiv and aids at the hospital one month ago. upon hearing this, "my" wg called santi’s family in java who came to jkt to fetch her. santi is now in her kampung, most likely dying or close to it from the description i have just heard. she has been active at bats (every bloody night or almost) until about 1-2 months ago. apparently, she had a regular client from bosnia
i am franctically writing this post as, having just heard the story of santi, i am afraid of a potentially massive contamination. santi has been active at bats for the longest time and the fact that she has developed aids now means she’s had hiv for quite some time. conclusion: there could be a bunch of people contaminated already in the bats community.
sorry to be a party-pooper here but i wanted to circulate this information soonest.
Mandiri, that's sad news indeed. I don't know that girl, but I've known other working girls in Jakarta who have died of aids in the last couple of years. It always amazes me when I see guys posting pictures of themselves having sex with working girls and not wearing a condom. In discussions, some guys will tell me they think it's impossible to transmit hiv through normal sex with a woman. I think they are dead wrong, but they are grown men and can make that decision for themselves. I don't know of any studies that prove any other way of transmitting hiv rather than blood to blood contact, but a study like that would be close to impossible to verify anyway. Since there's no way to be sure who has what illness, I take precautions as if all working girls are hiv positive. I believe there's no way to be completely safe while sticking your dick inside an hiv positive girl, but I feel safer wearing a condom.
To add to that point, there is apparently a bule guy who is frequently at BATS and may have shagged pretty much all of (certainly most of) the BATS' regular WG's and who makes a point of shagging them without protection. He sometimes takes 6 or 7 of them at one go, bring them to his place, lines them up on the bed and shags them condom-less one after the other.
So risk of contamination of STI's at BATS (and anywhere else for that matter) is HIGH.This guy keeps asking to shag the WG I was with the other day and, upon her refusing time after time (she is scared of his bareback ways), he gets very angry. This is not AR (this one does not take videos of his feats!).
It makes me sad to think that the mindset of girls in Indo being to genuinely please men they do not push back on this type of male behaviour described above.
I** is 24 years of age. She comes from a large city of Java and now lives in Jakarta. She has two half-sisters. A couple of years back she met a young European guy (26 yo) at the Stadium discotheque– both were high on pills then. He was on a vacation in Jakarta and from the happy weeks they spent together I** became pregnant. She did not want this child with him but her boyfriend, though he lives in a European capital city, insisted on her keeping the child. Anti-abortion laws in Indonesia not making it easy for women to abort, she had to keep the child, despite a few attempts at doing « self-abortion » with pills. A wonderful baby girl was born in August 2006. I** then went to spend three months in Europe, in the midst of the European winter, where the father lives. She tried hard to get used to her new circumstances but, not speaking the local language, having no local friends and not getting on well with her boyfriend she left Europe after 3 months, in February 2007. The whole in-law family were in tears then to see the baby girl head back to Indonesia.
I** is now back in Jakarta. She is on a 9-months hairdresser’s training school in Blok M. She is 2 months into this programme and has 7 months to go to complete the course. She can’t wait to complete the course and be able to start having an income from this occupation. Her father, who did not want to have a daughter but a boy and who spends money on girls, does not support her financially – she has not seen him in 4 years. Her boyfriend seems to be sending her some money every month for child support. This is not enough to live though. So she hangs out 2-3 times a week at Shangri La’s club, BATS, and when she fancies the guy who approaches her (she prefers Europeans she says) she goes with him and makes love in return for money which she needs to keep her and her daughter going.
I** is a very attractive slim girl with a beautiful dark skin, a beautiful shy smile. When she lived in Europe all the guys were after her to the point where her ex-boyfriend almost had to fight with them to keep them away from her.
Though she is only 24, one can already feel her intense experience of life and her sense of responsibilites for her child and also towards other working girls whom sometimes she helps financially with her modest pennies. She hates what she has to do for a living (she starts crying when she talks about it) and can’t wait to start her hairdresser’s career to get a regular income. She says she’s been with about 30 men to date, all seem to have treated her well. She exclusively goes with Bule guys and insists that she prefers European men.
I recently spent a full day with I**, about 20 hours or so in total. We went to a restaurant for lunch, then to a spa, then had dinner together and spent time together at my place – it was a great date day. I was little by little falling for I**.- so attractive and gracious, so sweet, so caring, so much sense of her responsibilities and such a big heart. When she finally opened up to me to share the other side of her story (freelance prostitution), I felt an intense sense of outrage and injustice inside of me, initially directed at the irresponsible attitude of her unsupportive father. The case of I** is sadly far from being isolated in Jakarta and many such wonderful human beings are having to « do what they need to do » to survive. They are so easy to fall in love with: despite the circumstances they are in, they are so genuine, naturally caring and generous. A situation like this always feels awkward of couse: in particular because in the West, an angel like I** would find herself a boyfiriend (to become husband) with a good income in no time at all. Here in Jakarta, she has to meet men to make ends meet, which certainly takes care of her short-term money needs but not of her long-term situation. Once I** becomes a hairdresser, I would not be surprised if she has to continue to be a freelance prostitute to complement her modest income – sadly.
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[QUOTE=Mandiri]
I am franctically writing this post as, having just heard the story of Santi, I am afraid of a potentially massive contamination. Santi has been active at BATS for the longest time and the fact that she has developed AIDS now means she’s had HIV for quite some time. Conclusion: there could be a bunch of people contaminated already in the BATS community.
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This one individual case is really no cause for such hysteria. While some STI's are easy to pass on the HIV virus has proven to be a difficult one to pass on from heterosexual sex. Certainly from female to male it's very difficult. With all the condomless play going on in asian cities like Jakarta, Manila, AC, Bangkok, Pattaya ect you would think there would be an epidemic among WG's in these places but it hasn't happened. Contrast the rates of HIV/Aids with the rates of other STDs like gonoreah which are soaring in every one of those cities. Only a handful or so of reported cases of bargirls in A.C. being diagnosed with HIV in a year? That is really quite astonishing considering the vast majority of WG's there are not using condoms with legions of men passing through there all the time. Jakarta recieves far less foreign sex tourists than AC does, so you can imagine how low the danger of a widespread outbreak of this virus in Jakarta really is. Use a rubber and there's absolutely NOTHING to worry about.
"The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."
[QUOTE=Mandiri]So risk of contamination of STI's at BATS (and anywhere else for that matter) is HIGH.[/QUOTE]
Oh maaannnn, just when I posted to declare I'm back in circulation!! :( That's it ... I'm calling my girl, go down on my knees, tell her I'm sorry and ask whether we can pick up relationship where we left off.
Seriously, though, this is one of the things that made me jaded over P4P. Practically a different girl each time, trying to get a hard-on whilst drunkenly reeling from the alcohol consumed, sometimes even going bareback for the first 5 minutes to get the hard-on, and then withdrawing to put on the hat, while telling myself (oh yea ...) it's only for awhile to get the erection going.
There's something to be said for long-term relationships where the sex is good, and you (think) know that it's safe.
Well, I guess that the moral of the story is to cap it!!
[QUOTE=The Corn Hole]While some STI's are easy to pass on the HIV virus has proven to be a difficult one to pass on from heterosexual sex. Certainly from female to male it's very difficult. [/QUOTE]
You really believe that? I'm just curious, can you explain to me how HIV is so rampant in Africa? If it's not from heterosexual sex, maybe it's some kind of voodoo or magic? Or maybe they are all having anal sex with green monkeys?
[QUOTE=Mandiri]I thought I should bring the matter of the freebie I got from a WG (Zita) at BATS to a conclusion. It raised quite a bit of anger from such members as Smoothie on the theme of "GFE's will disappear in JKT and all gals will ask $$ upfront".
Since my freebie night with Zita, I met her at BATS a couple of times (of course, she is there about 6 nights a week). And on those two occasions, she wanted to go with me (though she is obviously very well aware (! ) that she only got semen from me and no $$ the first time we met), and was very jealous (giving me mean looks) when I was talking to other gals.[/QUOTE]
I apologize for overreacting. If this Zita girl is still wanting to go with you, she must like you. ;)
If you feel comfortable giving her nothing given her circumstances, that's obviously your decision.
[QUOTE=Smoothy] Or maybe they are all having anal sex with green monkeys?[/QUOTE]
Basically, yes. Almost. Add some razorblades & detergent...
Tesco Nigel would feel at home.
I think something that most members here don't fully realize is how/why it is that gay men transmit the HIV virus. While I'm not a doctor, early on in the advent of AID's I did some work (photography) for the CDC (Center for Disease Control) in the 'states and had lengthy talks with the experts there: When any two people have anal sex, there is a very slight (microscopic) tearing of the skin, since AID's is transmitted via blood, this transfers the virus from one person to another. Rubbers are NOT always a sure fire way to stop it, as it's possible for the virus to microscopically permeate the rubber, though it's certainly better than nothing. Guys here seem to always be looking for girls who'll do bareback-anal, possibly not knowing this is the very highest risk that one can possibly take sexually. In oral sex there has to be an actual open sore in the girls mouth and that needs to come in direct contact with the opening of your john thomas or an open sore on your penis, which is highly unlikely. Yes, AID's is extremely hard to pass along via vaginal sex, but with anal it's a whole different ball game.
On another note, I'm down here in Ubud-Bali and I've found that lots of ladies want to have sex with we white monkey's for free. A girl told me long ago that the local guys tend to talk too much about it to their friends and it's just too small of a community for them to have sex with the locals. If they only knew we were here talking to the whole world! I also see that generally speaking they're not treated nearly as nice by the local guys. I was amazed that this girl was amazed that I stood up and walked across the room to get her a soda, rather than telling her to get it herself. I'm 55 and I've had plenty of free sex from locals here all in their 20's and 30's, though most of it rather bad. Rushing seems to be the order of the day. The minute I'm hard, they want it in and want it over. Getting them to slow down is a real challenge.
That's All Folks
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- jF
[QUOTE=Mandiri]I would not be surprised if she has to continue to be a freelance prostitute to complement her modest income – sadly.[/QUOTE]
That's a sad story of course. However, I'm not sure how you consider this story to be much different from most of the girls at Bats. They all have similar stories. Alot of them give up on a career as a hairdresser, etc and start going to Bats every night. Many of them have far worse stories than that one. The bottom line is that these girls don't have any way to make decent money so they sell themselves. It sounds like I** is still in the early phases. I'd expect her to either start frequenting Bats more often or get lucky and find a new boyfriend.
The rough life these girls have is why I believe it's always good to give all the working girls at least something. I can't live with myself not giving the girls at the prostitute bars at least 350k for a night of sex. These girls have hard lives and need the money. If they don't need the money, they would be going to places like DragonFly.
You say you've been in Jakarta 2 years? I'd expect you have heard a story similar to I** 100 times by now. I'm not saying it's not a true story. Because I have no doubt that it is. But that's the way it is for these girls. They don't have the cushy life western women have. That's the reason I cringe everytime I see someone using the word "freebie" in reference to a working girl in Indonesia.
That being said, the girl who currently cuts my hair used to work Bats and Hard Rock about 7 years ago. She took the money she made there and went to hair styling school. She makes good money now working at the salon so doesn't sell herself anymore. She recently even bought a car for herself. She's still quite a hotty and I'd give 500k at the drop of a hat to sleep with her if she were interested. LOL! So there is hope for I**.
[QUOTE=Smoothy]
That being said, the girl who currently cuts my hair used to work Bats and Hard Rock about 7 years ago. She took the money she made there and went to hair styling school. She makes good money now working at the salon so doesn't sell herself anymore. She recently even bought a car for herself. [/QUOTE]
With all due respects brother, but do you really believe that she was able to buy that car with her hairdressers income?
Years ago, salons were THE pick-up places by local men and it wouldn't surprise me when there are still spots like that. Writing this, I remember reading an Indonesian book about Jakarta nightlife, where the author described those places.
[QUOTE=Menteng]With all due respects brother, but do you really believe that she was able to buy that car with her hairdressers income? [/QUOTE]
You never know. She may have an indo boyfriend helping her out. It's a piece of crap car that she bought 2nd hand. I doubt the thing is worth more than 30 million.
I've watched that girl work. She's continually busy. The other hair stylists there have few customers, but there's always a waiting line for this girl. She works 11-7 every day except Wednesday. I bet she makes at least 5 million a month. It took her 5 years to save for that car, so I wouldn't doubt she bought it herself.
But again, who knows? I've suggested to her many times that if she wants to make some extra money like in the past that I'm always willing. :) She hasn't taken me up on that yet. She has said she'd go out with me if I'm looking for a girlfriend, but not just to pay her for sex. I haven't figured her out yet.
[QUOTE=Exit93]I really need to fuck models.
Ex[/QUOTE]
I just had the biggest shock and totally surprised me, I needed some professional models for a real photoshoot, not just a fun shoot and wanted to book the model for one day. The prices they came back with for good looking girls but not what i would call supermodels floored me.
The cheapest was 30 juta and the dearest 60 juta, then to add insult to injury they insisted on garuda flights and that I pay for a chaperone and 5 star accommodation. These people have no Idea. In all honesty I now am bringing a top Australian model up for the day, she will stay for 4 days as well as the flight for 15 juta max and noone to hold her hand.
I honestly think they just saw the bule name on the email and thought theycould get someone who wouldnt know better. I've played this game too long and i know the girl wouldnt be getting even half of that fee in indonesia... I love the way they just think we are complete idiots who have no idea about what happens in the real world. Oh well makes me want to open a modelling agency and fix the market.
[QUOTE=Smoothy]That's a sad story of course. However, I'm not sure how you consider this story to be much different from most of the girls at Bats. They all have similar stories. Alot of them give up on a career as a hairdresser, etc and start going to Bats every night. Many of them have far worse stories than that one. The bottom line is that these girls don't have any way to make decent money so they sell themselves. It sounds like I** is still in the early phases. I'd expect her to either start frequenting Bats more often or get lucky and find a new boyfriend.
The rough life these girls have is why I believe it's always good to give all the working girls at least something. I can't live with myself not giving the girls at the prostitute bars at least 350k for a night of sex. These girls have hard lives and need the money. If they don't need the money, they would be going to places like DragonFly.
You say you've been in Jakarta 2 years? I'd expect you have heard a story similar to I** 100 times by now. I'm not saying it's not a true story. Because I have no doubt that it is. But that's the way it is for these girls. They don't have the cushy life western women have. That's the reason I cringe everytime I see someone using the word "freebie" in reference to a working girl in Indonesia.
That being said, the girl who currently cuts my hair used to work Bats and Hard Rock about 7 years ago. She took the money she made there and went to hair styling school. She makes good money now working at the salon so doesn't sell herself anymore. She recently even bought a car for herself. She's still quite a hotty and I'd give 500k at the drop of a hat to sleep with her if she were interested. LOL! So there is hope for I**. [/QUOTE]Well, it is good to hear that some of them, like the one you portray, get out of this career. As for I**, though her story is sadly true, it really touched my heart which is why I wanted to share it here. I usually do not have this type of conversation with girls I know are WG's because I do not necessarily want to hear all the misery behind the fact that they are WG's. In I**'s case, I did not know she was a WG, it is only at the very end of a wonderful date day together that she opened up to me and told me of her circumstances which touched me even more as I was not expecting it and as I was little by little falling for her. As you say, for I**, as for many of these girls, there is a crossroad at some point where they either continue to sell themselves or they decide to move on with a more regular life.
[QUOTE=Panya]Hi Brothers,
The place is called X2, and it is made up of 3-4 different concepts (in terms of music), with a dining area as well. Panya[/QUOTE]Guys,
I too have done a little bit of a survey with my Indo gal contacts and most of them say the same thing: it looks like X2 is mostly frequented by local Chinese Indo folks. I went passed it saturday night and there was a long line of people queuing to get in -- certainly a very hip place right now.
For those of you looking for a rich Indo chinese gal, that might be the place to go.
Bulai69,
There is a report for you in the Restaurant section!
Hey Prof,
I have been watching you and your Bali escapades. Love them. Hehe. Maybe I'll go Bali and look for you! Well. I think those internet escorts are really crap. I did get to score at JKT during my last visit. But didn't take any pictures or I didn't know you guys would actually take pictures and post it. LOLZ. I frequent Thailand last time. I do really pay girls to be with me. The most I have paid is like RM4000 = slightly more than 1000USD. I'm kinda a crazy nut crack. Waste my money on these girls. But lolz. Cause of my fussyness. I GUESS I gotta settle for this and pay: (. I kinda like one of your MBARGO PICTURES. The lady wearing WHITE. Oh my lord.
Oh yes. During my last visit I have been to SUMO. Paid around 90k rupiah just to meet those girls. Anyways. The europeans / russians are not tat good looking. But those girls from China are quite hot. The freaking mama pimp told me that 1 night would cost me 3. 5 million rupps. LOLZ. YES. I'm a dick head and I paid. 10pm. 6am. Oh well. I'm going jkt and reaching at night on the 10th. GOING back to KL ON THE 13th. Any of you mongerers wanna meet up? you can than show me.
Ex
My favorite in Jakarta.
I am talking about the one in Jl. Jend, gatol Subroto kav. 42-43
I visited the establishment more then 10 time withing last year. Always great Took the fuul service. Including 90 minutes of massage, hote stones and happy ending at the VIP room
All around cost 375000
Hey
Wondering what Jalan is this new place in Senayan called X2? It's good to find rich indo chinese girls :)
[QUOTE=Exit93]Hey
Wondering what Jalan is this new place in Senayan called X2? It's good to find rich indo chinese girls :)[/QUOTE]It's located in Plaza Senayan, go to P4 and you'll find it there!
Good luck and please do report back.
[QUOTE=Mandiri]Guys,
I know this Post will make quite a few of you (inlcuding me! ) freak out but this is the reality sadly. As I am writing these lines, I am in bed with a WG from BATS who has just told me of the story of Santi (her BATS name), a 24 yo Javanese girl (her real name: Kasuci)[/QUOTE]Did Kasuci ever go by the name Suci at places other than BATS? I met a Suci working as a hostess/GRO at Jaya pub a couple of years ago and she would be about that age now - of course many of the girls in the bars are about that age.
Hi Exit 93,
X2 is located on the 4th floor in Plaza Senayan. Just tell the taxi driver to bring u to the X2 entrance lift behind Plaza Senayan, he will know the place. The usual entrance fee is 80k and u r entitled to enter 4 different clubs in the establishment. Equinox is another club in this establishment which has live band and very nice decor and environment. Vintage is also another club in this establishment which plays house music and a more relax place. X2 opens only certain days and NOT everyday and it plays Trance music. Pls bear in mind that the drinks are not cheap. Bought Long island for approx 97k per glass. But IMHO, thats the most happening place in Jakarta!
[QUOTE=Smoothy] She has said she'd go out with me if I'm looking for a girlfriend, but not just to pay her for sex. I haven't figured her out yet.[/QUOTE]
Careful!! ;)
[QUOTE=Bali Semut]I just had the biggest shock and totally surprised me, I needed some professional models for a real photoshoot, not just a fun shoot and wanted to book the model for one day. The prices they came back with for good looking girls but not what i would call supermodels floored me.
The cheapest was 30 juta and the dearest 60 juta, then to add insult to injury they insisted on garuda flights and that I pay for a chaperone and 5 star accommodation. These people have no Idea. In all honesty I now am bringing a top Australian model up for the day, she will stay for 4 days as well as the flight for 15 juta max and noone to hold her hand.
I honestly think they just saw the bule name on the email and thought theycould get someone who wouldnt know better. I've played this game too long and i know the girl wouldnt be getting even half of that fee in indonesia... I love the way they just think we are complete idiots who have no idea about what happens in the real world. Oh well makes me want to open a modelling agency and fix the market.[/QUOTE]
I think Bulai69 can help you out, if you still want an Indonesian model!
[QUOTE=Exit93]...I do really pay girls to be with me. The most I have paid is like RM4000 = slightly more than 1000USD. I'm kinda a crazy nut crack. Waste my money on these girls. But lolz. Cause of my fussyness. I GUESS I gotta settle for this and pay: (I kinda like one of your MBARGO PICTURES). The lady wearing WHITE. Oh my lord.
During my last visit I have been to SUMO.... those girls from China are quite hot. The freaking mama pimp told me that 1 night would cost me 3.5 million rupps. LOLZ. YES. I'm a dick head and I paid. 10pm. 6am. Oh well...[/QUOTE]
I see that we've moved from last week's discussion about freebies to the opposite extreme - overpaying!
I don't want to flame you, Exit93, you're welcome to be a high-end roller, but it's really not necessary.
For example, the "lady wearing white" in one of Bali Semut's photos would probably be happy to spend a whole week with you, multiple pops per day, for RM4000, which comes out to about 10 juta (10 million) rupiah, or over US $1,100. Heck, she'd probably spend a whole month with you, and give you an uncovered BJ at every meal!
Regarding the Chinese girl at Sumo, keep in mind that 3.5 million juta works out to US $400 at the current exchange rate - ouch! Remember, those prices at Sumo are negotiable. And I'm curious - once the lights went out, could you really tell the difference between the 3.5 million rupiah Chinese girl and the local girls here? If so, please post some details here!
[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]... once the lights went out, could you really tell the difference between the 3.5 million rupiah Chinese girl and the local girls here? [/QUOTE]I for one could tell the difference, because the Chinese girl would have me wear a condom for my jutas and I wouldn't be able to sustain an erection. JKT is a strange place, one of its strangenesses is that quality doesn't follow prices.Beyond a certain price quality of service even drops because you get imported goods and they don't compare to the local goods. I remain convinced that the best a bule can get at present in JKT is to be had for exactly 220 kRp, not a penny less, not a penny more.
[QUOTE=XXL] I remain convinced that the best a bule can get at present in JKT is to be had for exactly 220 kRp, not a penny less, not a penny more.[/QUOTE]
I think it's 223K ;). That's what I paid there last time.
[QUOTE=Quim Reaper]I met a Suci working as a hostess/GRO at Jaya pub a couple of years ago and she would be about that age now - of course many of the girls in the bars are about that age.[/QUOTE]
Suci at Jaya pub was a little charmer! I haven't seen her around anywhere in a long time.
Heyz,
Thanks on the whereabouts of X2. Really appreciate it guys. Hope those rich indo Chinese are not like asking for more than 500k haha. Well on the price of girls. I'm extremely fussy about ladies I plan to have the night with. Usually if I can't get those pretty ladies I rather go back lonely to my hotel and wank myself to sleep or maybe just sleep. LOLZ. Well on that " Girl in White " I hope she is still around. Plannin to go Bali and bring her back to my home country. LOLZ. Is she still at Mbargo. Bali semut aka Proff. Please get her contact or her name. Hehehe. Maybe I can spend you a whole night of drinks
Now. Lets say if I plan to play with those girls longer and plan to bring them to my home country, do you think they would follow for NO PAY? Cause I think I paid for their trip to and fro and lodging and food? Would you think that would be fair or you think I have to give them extra tips before sending them back off to the airport? Have any of you tried that?
As for Sumo, the bloody mama pimp told me that the 3. 5 mill rupp is not negotiable. Sigh. Quite sad though. LOLZ. The girl which I had a night with "the Chinese" didn't use condoms with me. But I opt for it as I'm quite scared LOLZ. AIDS AND STD'S: (.
Will report back on my stints in jkt when I'm there from 10th. 13th nex month. Any of you wanna meet up? We can go fishing together?
EX
[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]Regarding the Chinese girl at Sumo, keep in mind that 3.5 million juta works out to US $400 at the current exchange rate - ouch! Remember, those prices at Sumo are negotiable. And I'm curious - once the lights went out, could you really tell the difference between the 3.5 million rupiah Chinese girl and the local girls here? If so, please post some details here![/QUOTE]Coming all the way to Indo and Chinese girls? Man please go for the local (indo) natives, they are are best and friendly people.
[QUOTE=Bulai69]I reported on action in the airport hotel a couple of months ago. On my recent trip I confirmed what I have believed for some time, that many of the girls apparantly waiting for someone coming in off incoming international flights are merely there to be picked up.
As always, I was quick of the flight and into the arrivals area where I saw at least four girls (not together) amongst the usual crowd waiting for people coming in. I looked at them and they all smiled back so I simply picked the best one, walked up to her and said "are you waiting for me?". (This is a pretty safe approach as you could always pretend you were new in and had someone waiting for you.). The girl was around 22, very pretty and "my type" of body. She replied "maybe", so I just said "OK, perhaps we can go for coffee somewhere". She said "OK", I said "back to my hotel?" and that was it. Could not have been easier; back at my hotel we showered together and got straight down to business, a couple of hours later she was in a taxi heading home (or back to the airport for the next flight), happy with with 300k in her bag.
Later that night (Wednesday) I had a look in 30Bar: absolutely dreadful - that place has really declined in the past couple of years or so; there was nothing in there I would have had, even if I had been desperate.[/QUOTE]
Very interesting! I used to avert my eyes and rush through the pack so as to minimize the bother of the taxi touts. Next time I go, I'll be scanning the crowd a bit more closely.
Hey Hotel Man,
I think you misunderstood. If look and track back. I'm looking for indonesian MODELS or pretty ones. So please get your facts right AND TRACK back before you flame.
I'm just relating a few incidents where I'm willing to pay thats all. GEez
Ex
Do you know where to find a good price from Bali to Bangkok?
Do anyone know if there is a budget agency/flights.
Any boats?
The only tickets I found on the net was bussiness flights. More than the ticket from Europe to Bankok!
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Dick1]Do you know where to find a good price from Bali to Bangkok?
Do anyone know if there is a budget agency/flights.
Any boats?
The only tickets I found on the net was bussiness flights. More than the ticket from Europe to Bankok!
Thanks![/QUOTE]
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I guess you didn't like my help? I have only flown this route 10 times a year, for the last 5 years.
Of course, now that you mention you are flying from Europe, the no brainer thing to do is the buy a ticket Europe Bali, on TG. It stops in BKK.
Or you could ask for a third time, somewhere else !
[QUOTE=Dick1]Do you know where to find a good price from Bali to Bangkok?[/QUOTE]
Air Asia with one stop in Kuala Lumpur.
[url]http://www.airasia.com/site/en/home.jsp[/url]
Cheers!
Guys,
If i want to hunt at the new hot place in town X2. Which is the best nearby hotel i can stay. Cheap budget ones around 30 USD?? :). And what is the walking distance like>?
Can't wait for my trip. 9 more days and counting before touchdown.
Hey any of you mongers wanna fish together?
[QUOTE=Exit93]Hey Hotel Man,
I think you misunderstood. If look and track back. I'm looking for indonesian MODELS or pretty ones. So please get your facts right AND TRACK back before you flame.
I'm just relating a few incidents where I'm willing to pay thats all. GEez
Ex[/QUOTE]Hi Exit,
Accepted. Take it easy.
HM
[QUOTE=Exit93]Guys,
If i want to hunt at the new hot place in town X2. Which is the best nearby hotel i can stay. Cheap budget ones around 30 USD?? :). And what is the walking distance like>?
Can't wait for my trip. 9 more days and counting before touchdown.
Hey any of you mongers wanna fish together?[/QUOTE]
I don't know of cheap hotels in the plaza senayan area. The two nearest ones I can think of are the Mulia, (where CJ's is), and the Athlet Century Park, which is within walking distance (5 minutes) from Senayan, and unless they went broke, they are much more than 30 USD per night.
RTTF and you will find info on Blok M which is 2 busway stops from the senayan / ratu plaza area.
X2 is probably not the right place for you: it costs 80,000 Rups (9.2 USD today) to get in as cover charge, though you get a drink ...
Enjoy Jakarta
[QUOTE=X2 is probably not the right place for you: it costs 80,000 Rups (9.2 USD today) to get in as cover charge, though you get a drink ...
Enjoy Jakarta[/QUOTE]Hey Knight,
I think you havent been reading my previous post. I do not pay for the place I stay. LOLZ. I JUST wanna have more firepower to have the girls that I want Those "model" types which makes you drool. LOLZ. Well those hotels at senayan that you mentioned what is the cheapest room rates there?
By the way I would be arriving at jkt at night. How much is it from the airport to senayan?
Ex
Do not get a taxi from the desks in front of you after you passed through the last customs check, they will be asking 35USD or more pre-paid Go outside, ignore the taxi touts and get a Silver Bird which will cost you about 10USD on the meter plus a small charge for the toll road. Atlet Century Park is the nearest hotel to Senayan, check price on net (I use asiarooms) but it will be more than 30USD.
I should add that if you are trying to impress up market girls/models they won't be impressed with the Atlet or any other similar or cheaper hotel; you will need to be paying circa 100USD minimum. Jakarta girls are very well tuned in to the price of everything.
Also see my report on what you can find before you leave the airport!
[QUOTE=Bulai69]Do not get a taxi from the desks in front of you after you passed through the last customs check, they will be asking 35USD or more pre-paid Go outside, ignore the taxi touts and get a Silver Bird which will cost you about 10USD on the meter plus a small charge for the toll road. Atlet Century Park is the nearest hotel to Senayan, check price on net (I use asiarooms) but it will be more than 30USD.
I should add that if you are trying to impress up market girls/models they won't be impressed with the Atlet or any other similar or cheaper hotel; you will need to be paying circa 100USD minimum. Jakarta girls are very well tuned in to the price of everything.
Also see my report on what you can find before you leave the airport![/QUOTE]Actually you can save a couple bucks more than that now on airport taxis. For a while now the international arrivals have developed the same taxi system as the domestic arrivals. JUst walk to curbside and different taxi companies are assgined different parking spots marked with yellow signboards. So usually you can just grab a bluebird that is sitting there. If the blueburd space is empty there is usually a bluebird dispatcher who will call you one.
Also, an equally honest yet even cheaper cab is "Taxi Express." The taxis are all white with "Taxi Express" written on the side. They still use the 4000 meter down rate rather than the 5000 meter down date. Granted you will be getting a better car with Silver Bird. But hey you never know when you will need that extra 20K firepower to close the deal on a model type?
[QUOTE=Exit93]Hey Knight,
I think you havent been reading my previous post. ...... I JUST wanna have more firepower to have the girls that I want Those "model" types ..... what is the cheapest room rates there?
Ex[/QUOTE]
2 quick points Exit:
- When someone asks a question to this forum for help, and unless there a compelling reason to do so, I don't go back checking their previous posts. So no I did not read them: I reacted to whatever you said and implied.
- As Bulai put it later, you will not impress anyone by wanting to take a model type girl to a cheap hotel: chances are she'll drop you to go back if she sees where you're taking her. Those girls may not be the brightest but they sure know the value of things and relate it to what they can expect to get from you. Why do you think that the girls ALWAYS ask you as a second question ¨"Where do you stay" within 10 seconds after you meet them? Think about that.
If you want to be coherent with your search and intent, the Mulia is probably the best solution for you. I heard you could get it for around 120 USD. From my days when I used to travel here for business, I always found that the hotel booking desk at the airport, just near the bagage delivery belts, had very good rates for 5 star hotels.
Hope above will help and welcome to Jakarta. Let us know how you do with models: I'm curious.
Cheers.
Hello,, guys,
Thank you very much bulai. Let me relate what happened on my 1st trip. It was an incident where I was screwed over by airasia cause I was slightly late on my flight to medan. They do not allow me to check in. So I thought what the heck chose and later flight and off I flew to jkt. The jakarta trip was unintended and not expected. And so I didn't make any guide checks on the jakarta trip and went there like a blind man. Lolz.
As usual cause that place is my 1st time I'm blind and saw the 1st sign of indo hotel bookings. So I booked: (. Jln jaksa. Forgot what hotel is it. But it was cheap tho. 150k rupiah. But the taxi to that place is another 150k. Fuck. Got conned I presume.
That is my comment on my trip. I'm smarter now.
Knight. Thank you once again for all your help. Maybe we got off on a wrong footing. I meant those well. I guess you are right as well on the hotel issue. I don't care if I am staying at a motel. Just want good girls hehehe.
Bulai, I have been following your reports and lurking. I know you have picked up a girl "waiting for you at the airport" lolz
I'm planning to be at x2 on my 1st night and then to plaza atrium in the afternoon then sumo in the evening the bats the next day
Ex
Hi,
I'm hoping to be in Jakarta this month or July. Have heard about BLOK M. What is the rates for short and long stay? Is there chance of getting oral service in one of the bars in Blok M? Thanks for your replies.
Good Day,
I am a Newbie for this forum. Due to that, I seek your kind opinions.
I am planning to go Bandung and Jakarta, Indonesia in July. So, I hope that some of you can provide me some guide in where to stay in both cities where the actions are.
My current initial plan is to stay in Bandung first during the weekends, with minimal clothes and jeans because you can buy those in Bandung. My friends told me it is reasonable there. While there for 3~4 days, I'll will do normal sightseeing, nature, day to day life and girls (Yes, I did not forget). Then, I plan to go to Jakarta via 3 hours trains ride from Bandung because the ride give out a great view. I stay in Jakarta for another 3~4 days. I like to stay where it is easy to get to the Sokerno-Hatta Airport because they told me the traffic jam is really bad and might caused you to miss your flight.
As you see, I got some idea in Bandung but when come to Jakarta. My mind just totally blow off. Any suggestion to make my trip more enjoyable.
10 Q
Rimza Lia
[QUOTE=Rimzalia]Good Day,
I am a Newbie for this forum. Due to that, I seek your kind opinions.
I am planning to go Bandung and Jakarta, Indonesia in July. So, I hope that some of you can provide me some guide in where to stay in both cities where the actions are.
..... I like to stay where it is easy to get to the Sokerno-Hatta Airport ......
........ but when come to Jakarta. My mind just totally blow off. Any suggestion to make my trip more enjoyable.
10 Q
Rimza Lia[/QUOTE]
Rimza,
I am assuming that because you are new, you probably are not aware of what is already here in this forum in terms of information: let me tell you then, there's enough to keep you busy monguering for the next 5 years non stop ... so go to the definition of terms page then find out what RTTF means then, well, just RTTF.
A good hint would be that you probably should start with the reports of distinction. The rewards should follow soon.
Enjoy Jakarta
[QUOTE=Samchad]Hi,
I'm hoping to be in Jakarta this month or July. Have heard about BLOK M. What is the rates for short and long stay? Is there chance of getting oral service in one of the bars in Blok M? Thanks for your replies.[/QUOTE]
Your answers are all over this forum, if only you RTTF.
Why are you guys so lazy ?
[QUOTE=Knight 1001]Rimza,
I am assuming that because you are new, you probably are not aware of what is already here in this forum in terms of information: let me tell you then, there's enough to keep you busy monguering for the next 5 years non stop ... so go to the definition of terms page then find out what RTTF means then, well, just RTTF.
A good hint would be that you probably should start with the reports of distinction. The rewards should follow soon.
Enjoy Jakarta[/QUOTE]He might find it difficult to locate RTTF.
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Certainly you are right and searching for a taxi in arrivals it can be a way of saving time if there is a queue at Silver Bird. However, for those new to Jakarta there is a risk of being ripped off so new comers need to be careful.
Personally I always pre-book a silver Bird through the hotel which costs about 30% more but saves time and it's chargeable but if I was paying myself I would certainly do as mongerxx suggests
[QUOTE=Samchad] Is there chance of getting oral service in one of the bars in Blok M? Thanks for your replies.[/QUOTE]
You'll find the Bali Hai a place of interest, it is renown and has quite a reputation for this type of action.. Key it in and do a search in this thread, you'll get many hits.
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Exit, I've been reading, but you're a funny poster. 1 trip, staying in a hotel in Jalan Jaksa and then paying 3,5 million for a girl at Sumo.. (?) with all the best intentions in the world, that doesn't add up. Best of luck in X2.
Heyz,
I know I'm kinda screwed up in terms of stayin at the hotels. But if its the love box I'; ll pay. Haha. When it comes to girls my pocket grows big and in terms of where I'm sleeping it goes so small. Lolz.
Well. Indonesia here I come
Ex
[QUOTE=Rimzalia]Good Day,
I am a Newbie for this forum. Due to that, I seek your kind opinions.
I am planning to go Bandung and Jakarta, Indonesia in July. So, I hope that some of you can provide me some guide in where to stay in both cities where the actions are.
My current initial plan is to stay in Bandung first during the weekends, with minimal clothes and jeans because you can buy those in Bandung. My friends told me it is reasonable there. While there for 3~4 days, I'll will do normal sightseeing, nature, day to day life and girls (Yes, I did not forget). Then, I plan to go to Jakarta via 3 hours trains ride from Bandung because the ride give out a great view. I stay in Jakarta for another 3~4 days. I like to stay where it is easy to get to the Sokerno-Hatta Airport because they told me the traffic jam is really bad and might caused you to miss your flight.
As you see, I got some idea in Bandung but when come to Jakarta. My mind just totally blow off. Any suggestion to make my trip more enjoyable.
10 Q
Rimza Lia[/QUOTE]
Knight 1001 is correct, RTFF!
But I'll help you out in one area where the info on the subject may not be clear. There is one good hotel near the airport, the Sheraton Bandara, but the problem here is that you're far away from town and where most of the action is.
Yes, there are many horror stories of people missing their flights because they got stuck in traffic on their way to the airport. One reason for this traffic is the heavy rains and flooding here, luckily we are now at the end of the rainy season. A second reason is the in-town traffic just to get from your hotel to the toll road to the airport. I live within walking distance to the toll road entrance, but one day last week at 5 p.m. it took me 45 minutes to get from my apartment complex to the toll road and only 25 minutes more to reach the airport.
So if you're worried about getting to the airport, here's a compromise - stay at the old Hilton, which is now called the Sultan Hotel. It's located next to an entrance to the toll road, so even in times of heavy traffic you are fairly sure of reaching the airport in less than one hour from the Sultan. The Sultan is also located on Jl. Sudirman and the main north-south Transjakarta busway, convenient to Blok M, Plaza Indonesia, and fairly close to the three infamous bars BATS at the Shangri-La, 30 Bar at Le Meridien, and C.J.'s at the Mulia, as well as this new place X2 that's been discussed a lot all of a sudden.
I look forward to some good posts from you about your experiences here in Jakarta - that's the least you can do in return for all of the free information to be found here!
Left unsaid is why Jakarta doesn't have an "Airport Express" train similar to that in Hong Kong, Kuala Lumpur and many other cities. Supposedly one is planned but won't be open until 2012 or later.
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Knight 1001 and others are correct is suggesting that any newbie "RTFF" especially the "Reports of Distinction" section, which should help you answer most of your questions within 5 minutes.
Hey Guys,
Since I've booked a hotel at Senayan area 50USD ++ atlet century park: D internet rate. Wondering where can I monger DURING THE AFTERNOONS? Any place in particular? Heard alot about atrium. Is atrium near senayan?
And regarding the issues about taxis. Since silver bird or blue bird are the more reliable taxi's. To get from 1 place to another using silver or bluebird taxis usually where do I get them? Or I ask them to wait? Lets say I wanna go to plaza senayan for mongering, should I ask these taxi's to wait or there would be alot of bluebirds or silverbirds waiting near the taxi stands?
Your info and recommendation is much appreciated. Will try to get pics starting from now. Have been screwing around for years and didn't take any pictures: (. And give FR.
Ex
[QUOTE=Exit93]Hey Guys,
Since I've booked a hotel at Senayan area 50USD ++ atlet century park: D internet rate. Wondering where can I monger DURING THE AFTERNOONS? Any place in particular? Heard alot about atrium. Is atrium near senayan?
And regarding the issues about taxis. Since silver bird or blue bird are the more reliable taxi's. To get from 1 place to another using silver or bluebird taxis usually where do I get them? Or I ask them to wait? Lets say I wanna go to plaza senayan for mongering, should I ask these taxi's to wait or there would be alot of bluebirds or silverbirds waiting near the taxi stands?
Your info and recommendation is much appreciated. Will try to get pics starting from now. Have been screwing around for years and didn't take any pictures: (. And give FR.
Ex[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately the Atrium Mall is nowhere near the Senayan area. It's located a bit northeast of the MONAS Monument (the phallic monument in the center of downtown, also known as "Sukarno's Last Erection") whereas the Senayan area is a few miles south of MONAS, near the Youth Monument (also known as the "Pizza Man" statue).
But yes, the Atrium Mall is good for daytime mongering, and Plaza Senayan should also be good. Or you could hop down to the Hotel Melawai at Blok M, take the elevator to the 6th floor, and have a 1-hour daytime session with one of the cuties there, 300,000 rupiah plus a small tip (50,000?). Ask for Evie, Citra or Sandra.
Bluebird taxis are easy to find virtually everywhere. All of the big malls such as Plaza Senayan, Senayan City (where the new X2 is supposedly located, it's across the street from Plaza Senayan, same owner as Plaza Senayan, different mix of shops), Plaza Indonesia, etc. will have Blue Birds waiting at the taxi stand outside the main entrance. No need to keep a BB waiting for you at any of these malls.
One warning - make sure you are in a real Bluebird taxi! Unfortunately there are some competing taxi cab companies whose cabs are also painted blue. This is actually a serious matter - about once a month a passenger gets robbed while inside a taxi, and it is always a blue-colored taxi cab but never a Bluebird. A real Bluebird will have the words "Blue Bird" on the front windshield, up top.
I take taxis 4-5 times a day, and I always take either Bluebird, Express (white) or Gamya (forest green color). In a pinch I'll take Koperasi taxis (ugly orange and green), which are ok but all of them seem to be cabs from the 1980s.
I rarely take Silver Bird taxis in town, but I always take a Silver Bird going to and from the airport. And Bulai69 is right - if you're a newbie to Jakarta, your best bet is take a Silver Bird to avoid getting ripped off. The price to go from the international airport to Atlet Century Park should be whatever is on the meter (probably 100,000 to 120,000 rupiah), plus 9,500 rupiah for the tolls and an 8,000 rupiah airport surcharge, which is a legitimate charge (you only pay it on the way into town). plus a small tip (around 10,000?).
Yes, my fellow members and I are all looking forward to some actual reports and photos from you (instead of questions) :)
[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]Unfortunately the Atrium Mall is nowhere near the Senayan area. It's located a bit northeast of the MONAS Monument (the phallic monument in the center of downtown, also known as "Sukarno's Last Erection") whereas the Senayan area is a few miles south of MONAS, near the Youth Monument (also known as the "Pizza Man" statue).
But yes, the Atrium Mall is good for daytime mongering, and Plaza Senayan should also be good. Or you could hop down to the Hotel Melawai at Blok M, take the elevator to the 6th floor, and have a 1-hour daytime session with one of the cuties there, 300,000 rupiah plus a small tip (50,000?). Ask for Evie, Citra or Sandra.
Bluebird taxis are easy to find virtually everywhere. All of the big malls such as Plaza Senayan, Senayan City (where the new X2 is supposedly located, it's across the street from Plaza Senayan, same owner as Plaza Senayan, different mix of shops), Plaza Indonesia, etc. will have Blue Birds waiting at the taxi stand outside the main entrance. No need to keep a BB waiting for you at any of these malls.
One warning - make sure you are in a real Bluebird taxi! Unfortunately there are some competing taxi cab companies whose cabs are also painted blue. This is actually a serious matter - about once a month a passenger gets robbed while inside a taxi, and it is always a blue-colored taxi cab but never a Bluebird. A real Bluebird will have the words "Blue Bird" on the front windshield, up top.
I take taxis 4-5 times a day, and I always take either Bluebird, Express (white) or Gamya (forest green color). In a pinch I'll take Koperasi taxis (ugly orange and green), which are ok but all of them seem to be cabs from the 1980s.
I rarely take Silver Bird taxis in town, but I always take a Silver Bird going to and from the airport. And Bulai69 is right - if you're a newbie to Jakarta, your best bet is take a Silver Bird to avoid getting ripped off. The price to go from the international airport to Atlet Century Park should be whatever is on the meter (probably 100,000 to 120,000 rupiah), plus 9,500 rupiah for the tolls and an 8,000 rupiah airport surcharge, which is a legitimate charge (you only pay it on the way into town). plus a small tip (around 10,000?).
Yes, my fellow members and I are all looking forward to some actual reports and photos from you (instead of questions) :)[/QUOTE]My fello comrade Spearman..,
Thank you for your kind reports. I'm SURE I'll give you my reports. BUT ONE THING. Just wondering. LOLZ. ITS WEIRD taking pictures during sex. Havent done it. LOLZ. Another thing. I have been to Blok M before. Who is Evie, Citra or Sandra? Are they mama pimps?
By the way from Atlet hotel is it a walkable distance to X2 or to the mall areas which you mentioned? Sorry if I asked too much. I'm too noob. LOLZ.
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[QUOTE=Bulai69]Certainly you are right and searching for a taxi in arrivals it can be a way of saving time if there is a queue at Silver Bird. However, for those new to Jakarta there is a risk of being ripped off so new comers need to be careful.
Personally I always pre-book a silver Bird through the hotel which costs about 30% more but saves time and it's chargeable but if I was paying myself I would certainly do as mongerxx suggests[/QUOTE]Actually, there is no time saving difference except for the difference for seeing the bigger Silverbird sign at the curbside. Seriously, just walked to the curb and look at the small orange (or yellow?) signs with the name of taxi company at the entrance to every taxi parking space. There will be a bluebird taxi within no more than 150 feet of the silverbird stand, and it may even be closer to the door they exit from. Also it appears the bluebird stand has an attendent just like the silverbird stand.
Taxis are not nearly as cheap as they were a couple of years ago in Jakarta. So while not saving time you may save yourself four or five bucks going to town doing as I recommend. However, if you are afraid that you can't actually read these signs, strongly prefer a slightly vehicle, or strongly prefer a slightly new vehicle then splurge on the silverbird. I just think the uniform tale the Silverbird from the airport reccomendation is dated infromation and doesn't reflect the current taxi setup at the international arrivals.
If you want to go to Plaza Senayan, just walk out the back door of the Atlet. You don't need a taxi. And, BTW, if you want to avoid the walk of shame with your date, walk back in through the same door.
But I don't think Plaza Senayan is a good place for mall hunting. I say that with some trepidation because I'm not an accomplished mall hunter like some here. I've run across more available women in Plaza Indonesia and Pasaraya, even though I've spent a lot more time in Plaza Senayan.
Spearsman's suggestion of 6th Floor Melawai was my favorite daytime option when staying at the Atlet and the Mulia, although I haven't been by there since the trouble with the police. There are a lot of daytime options around the area where Jalan Hayam Wuruk and Jalan Mangga Besar intersect -- just look through this thread -- but it can be a long haul from the Atlet if the traffic is bad, and you better be happy porking women you can't communicate with, because not many speak English. That said, in the afternoon you'll run across a lot of young hotties at Tiara Ceria and other places, something you won't find in the Melawai hotel.
[QUOTE=Exit93]Hey Guys,
Lets say I wanna go to plaza senayan for mongering, should I ask these taxi's to wait or there would be alot of bluebirds or silverbirds waiting near the taxi stands?
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Heyz
Thanks Tiny for your kind advice.. One last question .. After much research :) wasted alot of time and effort just to find nice tight love boxes and stumbled upon this web address.
[url]http://www.webdonline.com/fr/services********message.asp?id=615107&msgid=4115938&poster=0&ok=0[/url]....
It says in JKT there is this under Hi class escorts Hartono escort agency, EKA , and Kamasutra which you need to pay thru your nose to get high class models or actresses.. Im quite interested... any comments on these?
Will still check on price though. as the LT price around 20 million rups and that is year 2000 :( I think..
I await comments :D
Ex
My grateful thanks to the brothers for providing information on Sentral at Pasar Mayestik. For guys like me who have a wife in town and don't have many opportunities to sneak off and need to monger during the day, this place is a godsend. On my last visit I asked for the "pake love" with Mona since on of the brothers had recommended her services. She wasn't available but the old harpy at the counter suggested Dewi and after seeing her photo, I agreed.
Dewi was cute slim bodied with small budding perky tits.She was extremely GFE. She gave me a massage and a lovely BBBJ. I followed it up with a missionary and doggie style in the time that remained. I'd give her 8 or even 9/10 on all counts.Sure I plan to be back as soon as I can and ask for her again.
[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]Or you could hop down to the Hotel Melawai at Blok M, take the elevator to the 6th floor, and have a 1-hour daytime session with one of the cuties there, 300,000 rupiah plus a small tip (50,000?).[/QUOTE]
As far as I know, the price is 350,000 plus tip, not 300,000 plus tip. It's been that way a few years now.
[QUOTE=Knight 1001]Your answers are all over this forum, if only you RTTF.
Why are you guys so lazy ?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Tiny 12]" If you want to go to Plaza Senayan, just walk out the back door of the Atlet. You don't need a taxi. And, BTW, if you want to avoid the walk of shame with your date, walk back in through the same door.
But I don't think Plaza Senayan is a good place for mall hunting. I say that with some trepidation because I'm not an accomplished mall hunter like some here. I've run across more available women in Plaza Indonesia and Pasaraya, even though I've spent a lot more time in Plaza Senayan."
I think it's more difficult to find a girl in Plaza Senayan than, at the other extreme, Atrium, but if you do find one she is likely to be much more up-market. Whereas girls certainly go to Atrium specifically in order to be picked up, I think this is rarely the case in PS. Plaza Indonesia is similar to PS in this respect but certainly some girls go there just to be picked up; this applies anytime day or night and at night there are a variety of pimps hanging around which I've never seen in PS. This is just a very general view and of course there are exceptions. As for picking up sales assistants, this is just as easy (or hard) in PS or PI though I've never tried that in Atrium (never needed to!)
[QUOTE=Bulai69][ Whereas girls certainly go to Atrium specifically in order to be picked up, I think this is rarely the case in PS. Plaza Indonesia is similar to PS in this respect but certainly some girls go there just to be picked up; this applies anytime day or night and at night there are a variety of pimps hanging around which I've never seen in PS. [/QUOTE]
I've noticed some that appeared to be on the game at PI, but have only picked up one. I'm not sure to this day whether she was a semi-pro or a "good girl". She worked at an insurance company in downtown Jakarta where she said she made about 1.7 million Rupiah/month. She never directly asked me for cash, but did insist we go shopping, and ended up extracting about a month's salary (hers) from me over a couple of days.
[QUOTE=Tiny 12]I've noticed some that appeared to be on the game at PI, but have only picked up one. I'm not sure to this day whether she was a semi-pro or a "good girl". She worked at an insurance company in downtown Jakarta where she said she made about 1.7 million Rupiah/month. She never directly asked me for cash, but did insist we go shopping, and ended up extracting about a month's salary (hers) from me over a couple of days.[/QUOTE]
You bring up an excellent point, Tiny. A WG who asks for cash ALWAYS is cheaper than a non WG. the non WG will milk you dry (pun intended). And since you met her at PI, she probably knows the place inside out, and knows EXACTLY what oleh2 she wants at any given time.
[QUOTE=Smoothy]As far as I know, the price is 350,000 plus tip, not 300,000 plus tip. It's been that way a few years now.[/QUOTE]
You're absolutely right, it's 350,000 rupiah plus a suggested tip of 50,000 for a girl at Maribaya Spa in Hotel Melawai. Sorry for the typo.
[QUOTE=Exit93]Who is Evie, Citra or Sandra? Are they mama pimps?[/QUOTE]
Evie, Citra and Sandra are 3 of the young lovelies who work at Maribaya Spa during the day shift.
[QUOTE=Mongerxx]Actually, there is no time saving difference except for the difference for seeing the bigger Silver Bird sign at the curbside. Seriously, just walked to the curb and look at the small orange (or yellow?) signs with the name of taxi company at the entrance to every taxi parking space. There will be a Bluebird taxi within no more than 150 feet of the Silver Bird stand, and it may even be closer to the door they exit from. Also it appears the Bluebird stand has an attendent just like the Silver Bird stand.
Taxis are not nearly as cheap as they were a couple of years ago in Jakarta. So while not saving time you may save yourself four or five bucks going to town doing as I recommend. However, if you are afraid that you can't actually read these signs, strongly prefer a slightly vehicle, or strongly prefer a slightly new vehicle then splurge on the Silver Bird. I just think the uniform "take the Silverbird from the airport" recommendation is dated information and doesn't reflect the current taxi setup at the international arrivals.[/QUOTE]
Mongerxx's post about the improved taxi set-up at the airport is correct. But my comments were intended for a newbie, and I would still recommend that a pure newbie to Jakarta take Silver Bird from the airport their first trip if possible, the Silver Bird driver is more likely to speak at least some English and will not rip you off.
Unfortunately I still hear stories on a regular basis of newcomers getting ripped off; the normal trick is that the driver refuses to use the meter and instead tries to negotiate a fixed price that is much higher than the fare that would result from using the meter. Two weeks ago a newbie took one of the no-name taxis from the airport to the Marriott in Kuningan and was charged (and paid) an off-meter rate of 500,000 rupiah (almost US $60), which is five times the normal price.
While I usually take a Silver Bird, it's partially because (a) my company is paying or (b) I'm with several other people including kids. If any of you are alone and paying out of your pocket, then you might consider taking Blue Bird, Express or Gamya as a cheaper option to Silver Bird - it's up to you.
[QUOTE=1Ball]You bring up an excellent point, Tiny. A WG who asks for cash ALWAYS is cheaper than a non WG. the non WG will milk you dry (pun intended). And since you met her at PI, she probably knows the place inside out, and knows EXACTLY what oleh2 she wants at any given time.[/QUOTE]
Just to add-on to 1Ball's astute comments to Tiny, I re-established contact with a mama-san at a karaoke that I used to frequent. This is the sms that she sent me this morning.
“ Ok no problem Babe, I just booring at hm … No Money, no boy friend n I want work again but not as shit girl, maybe As Recept. Or As Ass manager. Sorry Babe, last time with u I was love someone, but I like u too, one day I must control my self n decided not c u again. 3 months ago I found him with 3 shit girls n no more chance 4 him, even he wanna buy car 4 me. Sorry Babe, I just need someone to share my problem. Now I’m drunk from last nite. Actually I wanna c u 4 sure last time when u here. Give me time again Babe. I knew u and I’m scare to know the other man. I miz u …”
I really hope to meet the guy who "dumped" her ... 3 girls + her at the same time !!! I have a lot to learn from him LOL !!!!
Best,
Panya
Panya, I think we may be seeing the same girl.
10 Q to Might Spearman and Knight for your advice.
Since, nothing in life is free and this forum work because we trade information. I just like to inform members in this forum that the new BKK airport will have its own Airport Express which they called "Airport Link". If we are lucky, it will be operational in before X'mas this year. When I was in BKK early May this year, they are still assembling the overhead railway.
[QUOTE=Smoothy]Panya, I think we may be seeing the same girl.[/QUOTE]
Smoothy,
If you're the guy with her plus 3 others all at once ... all hail, Esteemed Brother Smoothy!! :D But, why offer her a car??? RTFLMAO !!!
Seriously, though, don't expect fidelity when we are infidels -- I remembered that she asked me for a new Nokia N70 for her birthday last year. She never wanted any money from me, and felt insulted the 1st time I offered, even throwing it on the floor and said she's not that kind of girl. Now the cat's out of the bag that she was in luv with someone else at that time!! (And I'm certainly no Brad Pitt .. actually, I prefer George Clooney.)
So, does the (perceived) GFE of (so-called) non-WG compensate for the presents and shopping that we end up paying for? Or is it cheaper to pay off a WG for the deed each time?
Best,
Panya
[QUOTE=Panya]...is it cheaper to pay off a WG for the deed each time?
Best,
Panya[/QUOTE]IMHO, it is much cheaper to pay a WG for the deed each time, especially here in Jakarta, where not all but many of the WGs will provide a GFE as well. That's why I've been with Cynthia of Kartika an estimated 20 times since early 2006, and I also visit certain lovelies at Maribaya 6th floor on a regular basis.
Hey Guys,
Don't know if we are from the same wave length. I think around a month ago. I went to Blok M, at hotel Melawai. I do not see any spa over there. But just a bar. Of course I ended calling one of the girls that work over at the bar called Nensy.
Is there a spa on the same floor? Or you guys meant a bar?
Sorry if we are not talking about the same hotel!
Ex
Hi guys,
How great is this? I've managed to blag 6 days and nights in Jakarta in early July. I'll be like a dog with 2 dicks (or I reckon I'll need 2 dicks). I'm busy planning my agenda already: Maribaya spa, Kartika, BATS etc. So many ways to have fun. Might even try a trip with brother JAD. And to cap it all I get 2 nights in Surabaya at the end of it. Life is goooood
My apologies for this smug post but I needed to share
SK
Exit,
Sorry but I can't resist this : it's called a spa because that's where you get your dick head licked, kissed and washed clean, hehehe ...
Does it do it for you ?
Ciao
[QUOTE=Exit93]Hey Guys,
Don't know if we are from the same wave length. I think around a month ago. I went to Blok M, at hotel Melawai. I do not see any spa over there. But just a bar. Of course I ended calling one of the girls that work over at the bar called Nensy.
Is there a spa on the same floor? Or you guys meant a bar?
Sorry if we are not talking about the same hotel!
Ex[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Panya]Smoothy,
If you're the guy with her plus 3 others all at once ... [/QUOTE]
Being with 3 girls in Jakarta isn't exactly difficult.
But that's not me. The girl I see occassionally gave me that EXACT same sob story about coming home and finding her boyfriend in bed with 3 girls, etc etc etc. Either it's the same girl or that's the story of the month for these girls. They do like so find a story they like and share it among friends.
Based on some of the reports posted here recently, decided to go to the Central massage place at Mayestik. Came in and asked for the "pake". I was quoted 485k for an hour. I declined because 485k for an hour of massage/FS is above market rates ! The Dewi and Monna mentioned in earlier posts were not working on that very day.
I then went to "Bersi Sehat" next door -- a very clean massage joint (no extra's) but great massage for 120k (90mn).
I have not been to Tiga Pulu in a while. Has the place really gone down the drain, or is it still alive and rocking? I seem to meet quite a few folks who used to hang out at Tiga Pulu and who now have changed quarters (BATS, CJ's etc.).
Was back in Jakarta last week. Started off well by being tricked in the airport. Was looking for a Silver Bird taxi and refused a lot of other offers, did not tell anyone I was looking for Silver B, but a guy came up and asked if I was looking for that so I confirmed. He pulled out his wallet and showed a Silver B logo, but think it was just a paper copy or something. Anyways, followed him to his car and it was def not SB, but it was new and clean so I thought what the heck, ended up paying 350k, which I guess is totally overprice... I usually get picked up at the airport so it was the first time I had to manage by myself. Guess I will do better next time.
The driver did get me safely to Hotel Muliah though, and well inside I was happy to see that this is also the hotel for a lot of aircrews so I thought I might get lucky with a stewardess later. My first meeting with CJ's made me forget all about aircrews though, what a happening place :)
Only downside is that there were more than enough guys, so it was crowded and not that easy to really get around and see all the girls. Settled on one that met my standards though, and was happy to find that she could communicate reasonably well in English. She also had a bunch of friends there. Wasn't sure if she was WL or not, so took it slow, bought her a drink etc. She told me her ex-boyfriend was also from my country, which I figured was a nice pickup line.
Later when I took her up to my room, things went haywire though. First she seemed very drunk. Then she started crying! I wasn't exactly sure why, but I think it was because of her ex or something. Anyway, I decided not to push it, so actually offered her to sleep it off in her own bed (there were two beds in my room), but she soon found the strength to get going on me. However, the sobbing/crying was on and off more or less the whole time, so it wasn't really pleasant. I asked her repeatedly if she was ok, which she confirmed though. In the end I got tired of it, so just stopped and said that we should sleep. She called a friend and gave the phone to me, the friend said she was sorry, that it was this girl's first time in "town" but that she would like some money :) I just said ok, ok, ok, and we went to sleep.
Next morning I did pay her - 500k which I understand should be the going rate? And wished her luck. Not going to seek her out again.
Sadly that was my only night. So already looking forward to the next time.
One amazing thing happened though. I while back I did hook up with a real freebie, an upper class girl who I am quite sure would not accept any of my donations. But through some very unfortunate events I managed to lose her number. As I was leaving Jakarta I ran into her again - daytime - in a totally different place than we had met earlier. What's the odds for that?! So exchanged numbers again and at least there is a chance for repeat now.
Ok, not the best of stories but they can't all be sunshine.
My experience is that it has definitely gone down the drain - sadly, as I always stay at the Meridien. As always, some nights are better than other (weekend) but it's nothing like it was a couple of years ago. It was at its best when BATS closed down a few years ago but declined when BATS re-openned and really declined after it was "renovated" last year. I have been in the some mid-week nights recently and there hasn't been one single girl I would take even if I was desperate - and that is a serious indictment!
Panya, my friend, although you ask this question: "So, does the (perceived) GFE of (so-called) non-WG compensate for the presents and shopping that we end up paying for? Or is it cheaper to pay off a WG for the deed each time? - I think you already know the answer!
Tiny 12's story is very typical of what happens with "non WG's" who you find in the up-market malls: without doubt you always pay much much more "per occassion" over the long term with this kind of girl buying "presents" etc. "Long term" in this context can be a few days or weeks or months.
Objectively, as I sit here in UK, it's clear to me that it's lunacy, in Jakarta, to do anything other than go with WG's, pay them around 500k (plus or minus a bit depending on quality) and get as good an experience as you'll get anywhere with stupendous value for money. However, when I'm there, objectivity rapidly goes out of the window! The trick is to make sure the presents are chargeable to clients and/or tax deductable......
The problem 30 has is that it kept that black band around too long and it seemed to attract the "black" crowd. Not that black people are bad worldwide, but I think we all know that many of the blacks hanging around in Jakarta are best to be avoided. They are most often dealing drugs, and are basically up to no good. They used to be mainly at JJ's in the old days. I don't think it's a coincidence that JJ's is out of business. They are still in 30, but you don't see them in Bats or CJ's very often. It's killed their business, yet they do nothing about it.
Case in point, the recent incident in 30 where the hitam guy was supposedly robbed of over 10,000 usd he was carrying in 30. 30 and My Bar are the two places those people are hanging out, so I avoid both for the most part.
I think the current band in 30 may be the best one in town right now, it's a shame the place doesn't have the crowds anymore.
Have you figured out how to have a new car or apartment expensed? :)
[QUOTE=Bulai69]Panya, my friend, although you ask this question: "So, does the (perceived) GFE of (so-called) non-WG compensate for the presents and shopping that we end up paying for? Or is it cheaper to pay off a WG for the deed each time? - I think you already know the answer!
Tiny 12's story is very typical of what happens with "non WG's" who you find in the up-market malls: without doubt you always pay much much more "per occassion" over the long term with this kind of girl buying "presents" etc. "Long term" in this context can be a few days or weeks or months.
Objectively, as I sit here in UK, it's clear to me that it's lunacy, in Jakarta, to do anything other than go with WG's, pay them around 500k (plus or minus a bit depending on quality) and get as good an experience as you'll get anywhere with stupendous value for money. However, when I'm there, objectivity rapidly goes out of the window! The trick is to make sure the presents are chargeable to clients and/or tax deductable......[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Liondale]Anyways, followed him to his car and it was def not SB, but it was new and clean so I thought what the heck, ended up paying 350k, which I guess is totally overprice... [/QUOTE]
Yes, totally overpriced but finally you should consider yourself lucky by getting out of the car at the right place with "just" paying 350k.
Such stories can end up in much worse scenarios. It's simply not worth the risk to drive with those guys for saving 20k or so.
Don't feel safe because you're in a car. You aren't safe.
Cheers!
[QUOTE=Smoothy]
Case in point, the recent incident in 30 where the hitam guy was supposedly robbed of over 10,000 usd he was carrying in 30. 30 and My Bar are the two places those people are hanging out, so I avoid both for the most part.
[/QUOTE]
Am I the only one to wonder what sort of business someone carrying 10k US around in a bar in Jakarta at night is likely to be into?
A leap of logic perhaps, but not a huge one, to suggest that perhaps he was a target irrespective of which bar he visited?
The stories of yesteryear bring back such sweet memories. My first night out in Jakarta was in JJ's following a short trip to Tanamour where I was involved in a dirty dancing that was on the top stage and nearly cost me my trousers ! From there to JJ's - to show how old it is it was when Leeds United were in the Champions League - what a strange memory to have.
The place would rock around the clock and we even had the driver sleeping in the car until we were ready to leave. Next morning my boss forgot his wake up call and missed his flight to Singapore.
Sadly all good things come to an end and when the drugs gang starting hitting it up was the time to stop going there. Next stop was 30 but that has sadly declined to the point where I have to agree with B69 in that the quality in there now is way below the past.
From there it moves to Mulia and when you have a rate of 70USD on thehotel it makes you lazy to move out and about. Much to my amusement one of the girls called me all sorts one night as they thought I lived in Jakarta - they overlooked the fact that i have business in Jakarta and therefore regularly frequent the place - sadly this means you realise after a while the limitations of the fishbowl and perhaps it is time to move on. Then again Batz is full of the expense account brigade who alas have a tendency to push the price up much to my amusement.
Life is becoming far too drole these days and perhaps am not the only one wondering where have all the beauties gone. Perhaps it is a sign of age or more likely we are faced with a current crop who are not as worthy as their predecessors - who are now all enjoying themselves at the expense of those who pay the regular bills.
There are the choices of the Panya approach - long term relaxed relationship - against the B69 approach and confess am of the opinion that it is the latter that is in the end more cost effective. What you need to do is find a nice circle of steadies in case another member has cast his net and hit on the same one and therefore you are left short for the night. This is a tactic that serves me well - on a recent occassion dulled by the poor crowd saw one of the steadies and even as she was being chatted up texted her to meet me outside and the rest as they say was history. Even had her ironing the shirt for the meeting the next morning - that is the beauty of Jakarta for you !!
Happy Weekend to all
I will be soon visiting Jakarta and Bali for several weeks with my bisexual gf, who is into asian women as much as I am. We would really like to hook up with one or more bisexual women, preferably for all-night or more than I day. Anyone have any leads or suggestions?
[QUOTE=Jaimito Cartero]Have you figured out how to have a new car or apartment expensed? :)[/QUOTE]
I guess you don´t know about the Range Rover and the country-house Bulai owns out there in the country-side. Not to mention the Ferrari and apartment in Belgravia, London ;).
[QUOTE=Jilat Meki]I will be soon visiting Jakarta and Bali for several weeks with my bisexual gf, who is into asian women as much as I am. We would really like to hook up with one or more bisexual women, preferably for all-night or more than I day. Anyone have any leads or suggestions?[/QUOTE]
Maybe she´s still there, but pearlycurl (or was it curlypearl?) at yahoo and AFF might be the one you are looking for. Brother Ebowan might also know how to contact her.
Yeah, 30 is very empty. They've changed the band last week or so. Do not know if it good or not. Too many troublesome african guest. Friday is the best day to visit though, some nice girls, especially the twins.
[QUOTE=Alvinyanto]Hi Guys,
Was invited to boys night out party, would anyone be interested to go any file a report? Because I will out of town that weekend.[/QUOTE]
I'll go if I can hook up with the girl you posted the other day.
[QUOTE=Mandiri]Based on some of the reports posted here recently, decided to go to the Central massage place at Mayestik. Came in and asked for the "pake". I was quoted 485k for an hour. I declined because 485k for an hour of massage/FS is above market rates ! The Dewi and Monna mentioned in earlier posts were not working on that very day.
I then went to "Bersi Sehat" next door -- a very clean massage joint (no extra's) but great massage for 120k (90mn).[/QUOTE]Then they've hiked their rates. As I remember, it used to be 410k till quite recently. May be that's more than Hotel Melawai 6th floor but for guys like us, it's worth paying that amount for the safety factor and not being seen. By the way, talking of rates what's the "going" rate for Bintang Mawar. Last time I paid 270k incl room as the mamasan would not negotiate. Is that OK?
[QUOTE=Tamurlane26]There are the choices of the Panya approach - long term relaxed relationship - against the B69 approach and confess am of the opinion that it is the latter that is in the end more cost effective.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bulai69]However, when I'm there, objectivity rapidly goes out of the window! ......[/QUOTE]
Guys,
You took the words right out of my mouth. Heck! I'd go for the WGs everytime, but I am a sucker for GFE .. no, I NEED GFE (or some semblance of it) in order to perform.
I get tired of ploughing dry, barren fields, being turned down for BBBJ, and the inhibition of LT/overnite with a stranger next to you, wondering whether she's gonna slit your throat in the middle of the night.
Quite awhile ago, I had an arrangement with a WG from a karaoke, and would give her a call everytime I touched down. The last time, she was actually on a day-outing with her kid, but she parked him somewhere and came to my hotel. She actually told her kid that "Mama got to go get some money to take you shopping." Needless to say, I couldn't perform, and just gave her some money (I'm a real softie ;)) -- and that was the last time I went for pick-ups.
At least in KTVs, we have 3-4 hours with the girl, confirm that there's some chemistry, before we go ST.
You know, I think the best is to have non-WGs for 1-2 outings, i.e. before they start thinking of sinking their claws into you, and just move on. This way, we can POSSIBLY :) avoid the unpleasantness of breaking up. I do envy Menteng's "projects" and Tamurlane's circle of steadies.
As Bulai rightly put it, we may all be well-prepared, but once a non-WG is in front of us and looks like the recent one on the Photo Gallery from Alvinyanto ... it all goes out the window.
Enough said ... anybody feel like a beer together this Wed or Thu night? I'll be in town, and would love some company. Please PM me if you feel like meeting up.
Best,
Panya
[QUOTE=Menteng]Maybe she´s still there, but pearlycurl (or was it curlypearl?) at yahoo and AFF might be the one you are looking for. Brother Ebowan might also know how to contact her.[/QUOTE]
Hi brudder,
we know how we can get the ladies... hahaha...
Bro actually I know how to contact her but I am quite reluctant to promote that lady since she is probably married already ;) .
Some WG are willing to do a lesbian act with another lady, still we are friendly to ask these first.
Best regards to you
MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU
Ebowan
Hey guys,
Like I said I'm gonna be in JKT from the 10th to 13th. To my disappointment X2 are usually closed on Sunday's till Tues or Wed. That is what the security guard told me. ARGH! Still in JKT. Any other recommendations?
Well. Hope you guys take note
Ex
I am a big ISG fan and Golf Fan, i am planning to go to Cengkerang this week, have thursday and friday early morning, planning to tee up around sunrise, and return to the city after lunch, wondering if there are any folks who would like to play golf as well.
I heard that the golf course is nice, and the extra holes are nicer. looking forward.
Any word of advice will be appreciated as well
[QUOTE=Bulai69]My experience is that it has definitely gone down the drain - sadly, as I always stay at the Meridien. As always, some nights are better than other (weekend) but it's nothing like it was a couple of years ago. It was at its best when BATS closed down a few years ago but declined when BATS re-openned and really declined after it was "renovated" last year. I have been in the some mid-week nights recently and there hasn't been one single girl I would take even if I was desperate - and that is a serious indictment![/QUOTE]
Just wanted to write a quick report to confirm what Bulai69 wrote about the declining quality to be fou8nd at 30 Bar.
A buddy who stays in the same apartment building as me is moving to Singapore, so last Wednesday evening I dragged him over to Le Meridien for drinks in the lobby bar, from 9:30 to 11:10 p.m. We sat in the front "no smoking" section, right by the bartender, which meant that we had a good view of the young ladies walking by on their way to the escalator down to 30 Bar.
Within 15 minutes the parade had started. The first group of 4 girls featured 3 plain-looking girls plus one very pretty short thin girl in a white blouse and black mini-skirt who appeared to be 19 years old. A minute later a fairly tall, stunning-looking girl walked by alone, this one looked to be 23 years old or so. But after that the quality plunged, with the girls passing by getting more ugly by the minute.
Atr 11:10 pm my buddy and I decided to head out, since we both had to work the next morning. As we headed to the front door, the 23-year-old, fairly tall stunner emerged from 30 Bar, hanging onto the arm of a 50-ish white male. Lucky guy! They hopped into a Silver Bird and rode off into the night.
So, the bottom line was - any guy walking into 30 Bar at 11:11 p.m. would have found only one good-looking 19 year old and the rest of the bar filled with "fugglies." Chances are the 19 year old would have been grabbed a few minutes later, and that would have been it! Slim pickings indeed.
[QUOTE=Joe Marieg]I am a big ISG fan and Golf Fan, i am planning to go to Cengkerang this week, have thursday and friday early morning, planning to tee up around sunrise, and return to the city after lunch, wondering if there are any folks who would like to play golf as well.
I heard that the golf course is nice, and the extra holes are nicer. looking forward.
Any word of advice will be appreciated as well[/QUOTE]
JM,
Tried to send you a PM, but you have either not turned it on or subscribed to it. Have fun, though!
Best,
Panya
[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]Slim pickings indeed.[/QUOTE]
I was there last Friday night. I sat there alone for 1 hour from 11pm to 12 and there wasn't a single attractive girl in the place. Probably 10 different dogs took their shot at me in that hour "what's your name, where you come from" but I wasn't interested in the least. At around 12, a stunner walked in and I jumped on her 2 seconds after she walked in the door. 3 other guys followed her in from the outside area to take their shot, but they were too late - she was off the market. LOL! Thank God I moved so quickly because when we left together at 1:30am there still wasn't another attractive girl in the place. Quite sad considering that is supposedly their peak night and 5 years ago there would have been 30 stunners in the place fighting over the bules.
Dear all experienced members,
I have a plan to go to JKT at the end of this month, I'm looking for some good massage parlor with Bj on the side can you recommend some place and names, would be appreciated. I'm gonna stay at Mulia and work around Ratu plaza.
Thanks a million.
Dear all writer,
I'm going to JKT at the end of this mo. will be staying at Mulia, and i'm looking for Massage parlor with bj can i get some recommendations?
Place and name?
Thank you
[QUOTE=Panya]
Enough said ... anybody feel like a beer together this Wed or Thu night? I'll be in town, and would love some company. Please PM me if you feel like meeting up.
Best,
Panya[/QUOTE]
Would´ve love to gentleman Panya, but I´m working on a project here in covered country: Colombia. I found out that "a project" is the best bet to go uncovered. The way I like it. :D
BTW, you may have found a compatriot with similar hobbies in Joe Marieg!
[QUOTE=Ebowan]
Bro actually I know how to contact her but I am quite reluctant to promote that lady since she is probably married already ;) .
Some WG are willing to do a lesbian act with another lady, still we are friendly to ask these first.
Best regards to you
MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU
Ebowan[/QUOTE]
Brother Ebo,
I saw her profile in AFF with her preferences, after she got married.
Are you still traveling by train from Bekasi ? ;)
[QUOTE=Laksi1234]Dear all experienced members,
I have a plan to go to JKT at the end of this month, I'm looking for some good massage parlor with Bj on the side can you recommend some place and names, would be appreciated. I'm gonna stay at Mulia and work around Ratu plaza.
Thanks a million.[/QUOTE]
I recommend reading prior posts in this forum. There are literally hundreds of suggestions.
A few weeks ago I posted a report that there was a 'returnee' girl working at Kartika to recommend. Her name is Rista (pronounced "Krista"), [B]# 115[/B]. She started working at Kartika in 2003 (when she was just 20 years old), then she left work in mid-2005 to have a baby, then just returned to work in April 2007. I had three sessions with her in 2004 and one more in February 2005, and I'm glad to see that she's returned to work.
Not a stunner by any means, but she has a cute face, is very very short, small breasted but decent figure, her ass looks great when she wears her thong under a miniskirt. The best part is that she easily has the tightest pussy I've ever found on any working girl in Jakarta - hard to believe she's given birth or has been working in MPs for as long as she has. Not quite a GFE (although she's getting close), but a very good service provider - great oral attention and cowgirl finish, just lie back and enjoy the show.
I've now had three sessions with her since her return, each better than the ones before - great oral attention followed by a great cowgirl performance to the (covered) finish each time. I would now rate her as one of the "Top 5" girls in Jakarta for her oral skills, and recommend that any of you at least consider her the next time you're at Kartika. Only drawback is that her English, which was decent in 2004/05, has completely disappeared from being back home in her kampung to have her baby.
Left unsaid is the story about becoming pregnant while working in a massage parlor, and not knowing for sure who the father might have been.
[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]A few weeks ago I posted a report that there was a 'returnee' girl working at Kartika to recommend. Her name is Rista (pronounced "Krista"), [B]# 115[/B]. She started working at Kartika in 2003 (when she was just 20 years old), then she left work in mid-2005 to have a baby, then just returned to work in April 2007. I had three sessions with her in 2004 and one more in February 2005, and I'm glad to see that she's returned to work.
Not a stunner by any means, but she has a cute face, is very very short, small breasted but decent figure, her ass looks great when she wears her thong under a miniskirt. The best part is that she easily has the tightest pussy I've ever found on any working girl in Jakarta - hard to believe she's given birth or has been working in MPs for as long as she has. Not quite a GFE (although she's getting close), but a very good service provider - great oral attention and cowgirl finish, just lie back and enjoy the show.
I've now had three sessions with her since her return, each better than the ones before - great oral attention followed by a great cowgirl performance to the (covered) finish each time. I would now rate her as one of the "Top 5" girls in Jakarta for her oral skills, and recommend that any of you at least consider her the next time you're at Kartika. Only drawback is that her English, which was decent in 2004/05, has completely disappeared from being back home in her kampung to have her baby.
Left unsaid is the story about becoming pregnant while working in a massage parlor, and not knowing for sure who the father might have been.[/QUOTE]
Have you not yet met Ella in Bats? I thought that was the tighest despite being busy.
[QUOTE=Panya]JM,
Tried to send you a PM, but you have either not turned it on or subscribed to it. Have fun, though!
Best,
Panya[/QUOTE]Hi Panya,
Actually I just logged in today, also dont know how to use the PM.
JM
[QUOTE=Brandon88]Have you not yet met Ella in Bats? I thought that was the tightest despite being busy.[/QUOTE]
Sorry to say, I have not yet met Ella. Believe it or not, I've only been in BATS once, and then only briefly, around dinner time on a weeknight when the place was almost empty. Due to family considerations, I am rarely out in the evenings. Virtually all of my reports posted here since the beginning of 2006 relate to afternoon mongering activities; in all that time I've been out in the evenings on only three occasions, including last week's visit to the lobby bar at Le Meridien.
Having said that, now I'll have to figure out a way to hook up with Ella, to make a detailed comparative study between her pussy and Rista's pussy! :)
[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]now I'll have to figure out a way to hook up with Ella, to make a detailed comparative study between her pussy and Rista's pussy! :)[/QUOTE]
That shouldn't be hard. Just go to BATS. She's there quite frequently. Ella's been on the scene a long time now. I did both her and her sister 6 or 7 years ago and she's still in Bats almost every night. (I prefer her sister because of her big breasts, but she is lower profile than Ella for some reason). They both still say hello to me everytime I see them anywhere in Jakarta even though I haven't been with either of them in years.
I definitely would not rate either Ella or her sister as the tightest pussy in Jakarta. But both are a fun ride.
Hi,
I have RTFF on this and other forums and found very valuable info on Yahoo Messenger chatrooms, Camfrogs and some others. I have not yet found reviews of dating sites with a good Indonesia focus. Can anyone shed some light as to what are the best ones as of today?
Appreciate the pointers,
Anyone can tell me which massage palour can find Local Chinese girl (not PRC Chinese) in Jakarta, thanks a lot !!
Anyone knows in which massage palour I can find local Chinese girl (not PRC Chinese girl)?
Thanks a lot!
Mandiri - have you tried friendster.com? It's not a dating site per se but there are literally thousands of girls from Jakarta (especially) and elsewhere in Indonesia. If you ask any girl in Jakarta if she is on friendster 9/10 will say "yes". They usually just call it "fs". If you chat on Yahoo messenger and you are not sure if they are what they say they are just ask if they are on friendster. Just say "ada fs".
The vast majority are NOT on fs specifically to find a "boyfriend", though some certainly are and a small number are clearly hookers. I never have the time (or the requirement!) to use it when I'm in Jakarta but when I've nothing better to do in UK I often use it and 7 or 8/10 girls will reply favourably if you send them a (polite) message. This can lead to what I rather suspect you are looking for; I've met 2 or 3 girls on this basis and "scored" each time.
[QUOTE=Bulai69]Mandiri - have you tried friendster.com? It's not a dating site per se but there are literally thousands of girls from Jakarta (especially) and elsewhere in Indonesia. If you ask any girl in Jakarta if she is on friendster 9/10 will say "yes". They usually just call it "fs". If you chat on Yahoo messenger and you are not sure if they are what they say they are just ask if they are on friendster. Just say "ada fs".
The vast majority are NOT on fs specifically to find a "boyfriend", though some certainly are and a small number are clearly hookers. I never have the time (or the requirement!) to use it when I'm in Jakarta but when I've nothing better to do in UK I often use it and 7 or 8/10 girls will reply favourably if you send them a (polite) message. This can lead to what I rather suspect you are looking for; I've met 2 or 3 girls on this basis and "scored" each time.[/QUOTE]Many thanks Bulai. Yes I have just tried this Friendster thing for about 48 hours and it seems to give good (initial) results. Will report back when anything more meaningful happens.
Thanks again
[QUOTE=Liondale] Was looking for a Silver Bird taxi and refused a lot of other offers, did not tell anyone I was looking for Silver B, but a guy came up and asked if I was looking for that so I confirmed. He pulled out his wallet and showed a Silver B logo, but think it was just a paper copy or something. A.[/QUOTE]Taxi counter just located at the exit point of arrival hall. I took a Silver Bird taxi to Mangga Dua for RP150,000. They issue a resit at the counter and the girl from the counter with walkie-talkie will direct you to the taxi. Last time they use a MPV (without silver bird logo) and the driver very friendly.
Don't ever get taxi from road side at airport, especially not a taxi. In town area, always look for blue bird group taxi.
Safety is more important.
[QUOTE=Bulai69]The vast majority are NOT on fs specifically to find a "boyfriend", though some certainly are and a small number are clearly hookers. I never have the time (or the requirement!) to use it when I'm in Jakarta but when I've nothing better to do in UK I often use it and 7 or 8/10 girls will reply favourably if you send them a (polite) message. This can lead to what I rather suspect you are looking for; I've met 2 or 3 girls on this basis and "scored" each time.[/QUOTE]Wow brother its a very good piece of information. I am from malaysia. Heard that even at shopping complex the chance of a guy score with a girl is very high here in Jakarta. Is that true?
[QUOTE=Quim Reaper]Did Kasuci ever go by the name Suci at places other than BATS? I met a Suci working as a hostess/GRO at Jaya pub a couple of years ago and she would be about that age now - of course many of the girls in the bars are about that age.[/QUOTE]
I knew I had a picture of Suci taken by hand phone. Here's Suci from Jaya Pub.
[QUOTE=XXL]I for one could tell the difference, because the Chinese girl would have me wear a condom for my jutas and I wouldn't be able to sustain an erection. JKT is a strange place, one of its strangenesses is that quality doesn't follow prices.Beyond a certain price quality of service even drops because you get imported goods and they don't compare to the local goods. I remain convinced that the best a bule can get at present in JKT is to be had for exactly 220 kRp, not a penny less, not a penny more.[/QUOTE]XXL,
It's stupid enough that you refuses to take condoms - but please dont use this as an argument to go for local girls.
I dont care if you get infected with HIV, but every girls you force to uncovered FJ is of my serious concern. Do yourself a favor and visit one of the many HIV or TB clinics in Jakarta ! Even an obvious ignorant guy like you will learn about the true picture in Jakarta. Threats like yours should be excluded from this forum as it gives the impression that there is no risk involved.
If you have problems with getting an erection, see a doctor or buy some blue pills - or be happy with getting BBBJ´s, which consequenses can at least be treated relatively easily.
hi folks,
the amount of ads for call-in massages in jp gets bigger and bigger.
of course, i dont want to talk about any "for man-by man" shit...
does anybody of you have some experience ? especially how it works with the galleries which some of them mention sometimes. (any link to share ?)
to share my experience:
i tried it once some time ago. there was a guy who picked up the phone and could not speak much english. i told him my address, we agreed on the price (500 tidr for 3 hours) and i asked him to send the therapist fast as i did not have a big time-window.
90! minutes later, the girl was delivered by a driver who entered the parking area of my house (which i did not like) and who asked for the money. the girl did not look too bitchy but of course my security guys knew what this visit is about (what i did not like either).
however, i let her in and she told me that i have one hour. i got a bit pissed and called the number again. finally the girl gave in and we had 3 hours as initially discussed with the big pimp. we went to the the work room and as expected there was not much about massage involved (beside the balls).
after the action she went home by taxi.
i did not gave her any tip because of the incident in the beginning.
the girl was in average 4/10 - pretty standard.
bbbj: 6/10
fj: 5/10
cim: -
my executive summary would be:
nothing special for a reasonable price, in case of a private-house delivery, it is too obvious, hotel delivery should be better.
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[QUOTE=Hari Hari]Taxi counter just located at the exit point of arrival hall. I took a Silver Bird taxi to Mangga Dua for RP150,000. They issue a resit at the counter and the girl from the counter with walkie-talkie will direct you to the taxi. Last time they use a MPV (without silver bird logo) and the driver very friendly.
Don't ever get taxi from road side at airport, especially not a taxi. In town area, always look for blue bird group taxi.
Safety is more important.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the tip. Checked my receipt and found that it said Silver Cab :)
Guess I should be glad I got out in one piece and with all my belongings.
"Heard that even at shopping complex the chance of a guy score with a girl is very high here in Jakarta. Is that true?" - it certainly is! Look back at recent postings or search on mall hunting. The situation in JKT is not like KL.
[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]
Left unsaid is the story about becoming pregnant while working in a massage parlor, and not knowing for sure who the father might have been.[/QUOTE]
You had covered sex with her recently, but how was it back in 2005? :D
[QUOTE=Bulai69]"Heard that even at shopping complex the chance of a guy score with a girl is very high here in Jakarta. Is that true?" - it certainly is! Look back at recent postings or search on mall hunting. The situation in JKT is not like KL.[/QUOTE]Thanks once again. Hehe. My next destination surely is Jakarta hehe.
Hi mongres,
This afternoon, I stopped by at My place, a nice massage place in Senayan. I just want to have a relaxed massage there. Pretty busy. Got directly to the second floor, where you would chose your masseurs. But, you can only choose from numbers listed there. Got number 42. Waiter told me to wait about 5 minutes, then I ordered a drink.
Then, a beautiful lady escorted me to the massage room on the forth floor, and the masseus was already waiting in front of the room. The room was nice, with shower attached.
Got a real good massage, and the lady was nice in her handling. She continued to touch my private parts, and it was nice. At the end of the massage, she asked if I wanted a hj, saying it was part of the service. Wow, it's wonderful. It's really beyond my expectation. I thought I had to pay additional cost for hj, but it's not. As I said okay, she started the hj slowly. But, unfortunately, she would not undress, but she allowed me to touch hers. After coming, I had shower, and she washed me there. Fishing all the session, I went downstair, and changed cloth. (I did not tip her because my wallet was left in the locker). The damage is the price list 280k plus the drink, and I left the place hapily.
Location: If you are from Semanggi, go in the direction to Slipi, and before Slipi, turn left at Manggala Wanabakti, and go straight and you will find a traffic light, and still go straight, and you will find Hotel Mulia on your left and go straight still, and right before the traffic light, you will see new shop houses complex there, and get into this complex, and you will easily find My Place.
[QUOTE=Alvinyanto]Looking for local Chinese, look at Halai, but beware bring a local friend, it not you will hit for a ride
Alvin[/QUOTE]Can you tell me where is 'Halai'? Is it a good massage place?
I will be in JKT tonight.
A girlfriend of mine suggest me to go to BATS
Is it quite or still ok on Monday nights?
Someone want to join for a drink?
Ildom
After years of prowling the Sudirman and Blok M area, frequenting Korean and Japanese style karaokes, I have been following with great interest comments about Hai Lai.
My very first visit to Hai Lai was in 1996, and at that time, I felt that it was pretty run-down compared to KTVs in Kuala Lumpur and Singapore. I opened a "package" that gave me a total of 5 bottles. I remembered during one of my trips that it had a fire, and of course, my bottles went up in smoke as well.
Last week, a local friend took me to a newly opened karaoke in Pangeran Jakarta (I think) area, located in the Lindeteves Building. The place is called SUN CITY, and it was very, very impressive.
Walking in, you are immediately wowed by the decor, and sense of exclusivity. From the front entrance, there is a small stage in front of an extended bar, where a local band is playing. There are various GROs seated and they look very sultry, eyeing you as you walk-in.
We walked through the entire place on the way to our KTV room, and everything was plush and luxurious, very similar to what I saw in X2, only much bigger and grand.
The room we were assigned to had an attached bathroom, and the door to the room proper was thickly padded -- sound-proofed! There were 3 plasma displays, one for the song selections, one for the singinging, and the next one showing ESPN programs. The amazing thing is that the room had a split level, with a staircase that led upstairs to a small balcony, from which you could look down on your friends as they were singing and dancing, and this was the smallest room in the entire place! At the balcony, there was a leather divan, the size of a large single bed, and I was told to avail myself with the girl I was with, if I was so inclined.
The entire establishment was very skewed towards Chinese, mama-sans were all pattering away in Mandarin, and you had selections of PRCs and local girls to choose from. They even had PRC mama-sans who could speak Bahasa Indonesia.
The prices are sky high -- it cost Rp 500,000 for a local girl, and Rp 600,000 for a PRC just to sit with you. For FS, they had an adjacent hotel that you could go to, and it cost Rp 1.5 million for a local, and Rp 1.9 million for a PRC.
I opted for a local girl, and we were shown 3 parades of about 10 girls each, before I selected one girl. My observation is that despite the high-class ambience, the local girls available were just so-so, averaging 5 to 6 in terms of looks. Most of them were quite chubby, and the only good thing was that they were dressed in gowns and proper attire. But, as the saying goes, you can bring the girl out of the 'kampung' but you can't bring the 'kampung' out of the girl.
Compared to Korean-style establishments, I think the girls in Sun City are below expectations. In Korean and Japanese style places, we had slimmer and sexier bods to choose from. The girls are also more wanton in allowing caresses and "playing" with you.
My girl in Sun City was quite frigid, as even after a couple of hours and many drinks, I couldn't even cop a feel of her breasts.
In summary, I would frequent these places (I was told that Sands and K-7 are similar) only if I had a very big potato of a client to entertain, and needed to splurge on him to get a huge contract.
Other than that, I don't think the prices are in any way reasonable -- we seem to be paying more for the decor, and what the hell for?
Best,
Panya
[QUOTE=Jackyung]Thanks once again. Hehe. My next destination surely is Jakarta hehe.[/QUOTE]
I was in Pattaya about 6 months ago and met a guy there who when I mentioned I lived in Jakarta, he let me know that he had recently visited Jakarta because he'd read online on this site that you can easily pick up girls at the malls. He said he tried several malls and had zero success. He also said he never could find the Atrium mall that had been mentioned so often. (It's not the easiest place to find, I'll admit.)
Please do not be misled by the statement that "you can easily pick up girls at the malls". It's not as easy as you'd think at most malls. If you go to Atrium mall, it's no problem because that's a down market shopping plaza known for that kind of thing. If you go to a place like Senayan City, you can expect to have a rough time of it picking up any girls. It's possible, but not easy. Senayan City is a nice, modern shopping mall and is more like the malls you'll find in KL. Any mall in Jakarta is still a better pick up spot than in KL, but it's only certain ones where it's easy. The quality of girls you'll find at a place like Senayan is about 10 times better than at Atrium, but the girls at Atrium are much easier to pick up.
Those of us who have been to Jakarta many times will easily be able to pick out the girls who are possible pick ups. But someone new on the scene will not be able to pick them out so easily. A place like Atrium mall, they are basically all there to be picked up so it's like shooting fish in a barrell. But I dont know of another mall in town like that and the quality of the girls is low to average at best. And if you do see a good one, move immediately or you will not have a chance at her 5 minutes later since she'll be taken by some local.
Before going to Sun City, I was out with a Japanese business associate, and decided to visit Cosmos again. The last time I was there, a Singaporean friend took this girl by the name of Sharon, and I had made a mental note to try her on my next trip. She was 7.5 in looks, about 5ft 2 in, and B-cups -- my favourite ... slurp!
I called up the place and made reservations, and we arrived at about 10.30pm.
Mama-san informed that Sharon was not working that day (sometimes they let another customer take your girl, ya), so we had the parade. As the hour was quite late - by Cosmos standrads, we had only 8 girls to choose from.
I selected Tari, who had a lithe body, standing about 5ft 5in, with legs that went on forever, and looks 7 out of 10. My associate selected my 2nd choice, with C-cups and but was more chunky, although she looked more pretty.
We both ended up with the 2 girls in my hotel room, and I had to wait in the bathroom with my girl, while he had his session first. In the bathroom, Tari and I took a shower together. As we removed our clothes, I found that the A-cups on her body were just so sexy, as she had a super model figure. Her face was much prettier than I expected. During the shower, we played with one another, she gave me a BBBJ and I reciprocated with DATY with her resting against the shower cubicle, with her pelvis thrust outwards for me to lick her.
We adjourned from the shower to the counter-top, where I slipped on the condom, and she turned around for doggy-style. As she was almost the same height as I am, her pussy was higher than Little Panya could reach. So, after numerous unsuccessful attempts to slip it in, coupled with the amount of liquor consumed earlier, Little Panya let me down ... I didn't have any Vitamin C or Acer pills with me! :(
So, we decided to stop, and go out to join the other pair in the bedroom. We all chit-chatted for awhile, and I copped a feel of the C-cups of the other girl -- soft and droopy! After they left, Tari and I started DFKs and caressing each other on the bed.
I managed a semi-hard erection, and started pumping away, hoping to kick-start the hormones. After about 15 minutes, decided to give up, and asked her to give me a HJ, and shot my protein over her abdomen.
She was very understanding and considerate over the entire experience -- how sweet. Managed to get her phone number, and will definitely call her next time, as she's off on Tuesdays.
My observation of Cosmos, is that every girl who goes for an FS with the customers, somehow, they either do not turn up for work the next day, or actually stop work for awhile. It's been quite difficult for me to have a repeat session with the girls, especially when I find one that is a willing participant, and the sex is just great!
Could it be that they are pretty 'innocent', and feel traumatized when they are expected to follow customers back for FS? ;)
Best,
Panya
[QUOTE=Panya]
My observation of Cosmos, is that every girl who goes for an FS with the customers, somehow, they either do not turn up for work the next day, or actually stop work for awhile. It's been quite difficult for me to have a repeat session with the girls, especially when I find one that is a willing participant, and the sex is just great!
Could it be that they are pretty 'innocent', and feel traumatized when they are expected to follow customers back for FS? ;)
Best,
Panya[/QUOTE]
Only if the customer has a little Panya and forces them to work hard to wake "him" up!:D When are we meeting for TT/coffee/drinks bro?
MD II
[QUOTE=Master Diver II]Only if the customer has a little Panya and forces them to work hard to wake "him" up!:D When are we meeting for TT/coffee/drinks bro?
MD II[/QUOTE]
Oooh yeaaa ... touche!
The great MDII finally re-surfaces, eh? Don't forget, our penile prints are supposed to be the same, if you believe what a famous FL in Malaysia said. ;)
Yes, let's do TT -- how about Monday 25th at Coffee Club in Plaza Senayan, say, 6.30pm, okay? Cannot? Why, why why? :p
[quote=hatze]hi folks,
the amount of ads for call-in massages in jp gets bigger and bigger.
of course, i dont want to talk about any "for man-by man" shit...
does anybody of you have some experience ? especially how it works with the galleries which some of them mention sometimes. (any link to share ?)
to share my experience:
i tried it once some time ago. there was a guy who picked up the phone and could not speak much english. i told him my address, we agreed on the price (500 tidr for 3 hours) and i asked him to send the therapist fast as i did not have a big time-window.
90! minutes later, the girl was delivered by a driver who entered the parking area of my house (which i did not like) and who asked for the money. the girl did not look too bitchy but of course my security guys knew what this visit is about (what i did not like either).
however, i let her in and she told me that i have one hour. i got a bit pissed and called the number again. finally the girl gave in and we had 3 hours as initially discussed with the big pimp. we went to the the work room and as expected there was not much about massage involved (beside the balls).
after the action she went home by taxi.
i did not gave her any tip because of the incident in the beginning.
the girl was in average 4/10 - pretty standard.
bbbj: 6/10
fj: 5/10
cim: -
my executive summary would be:
nothing special for a reasonable price, in case of a private-house delivery, it is too obvious, hotel delivery should be better.[/quote]i have had several calls to these ads as well. some were asking for 3m rupiah, for models. i have tried 2-3 times.
my first experience i got a lady around 30s but she was wearing a really sexy shirt which was my to my liking. the cost was 180k rupiah. can really do a massage. so i ended up getting her number and contacting her directly a couple of more times in the next several months. but i only did hj with this girl.
then i decided to call other services, which was not satisfactory.
the most recent one was 500k for 3 hours to my hotel, the girl did not speak any english, and seemed to be young. the experience was really bad.
and there was no really massage as well.
[QUOTE=Mandiri]I** is 24 years of age. She comes from a large city of Java and now lives in Jakarta. She has two half-sisters. A couple of years back she met a young European guy (26 yo) at the Stadium discotheque– both were high on pills then. He was on a vacation in Jakarta and from the happy weeks they spent together I** became pregnant. She did not want this child with him but her boyfriend, though he lives in a European capital city, insisted on her keeping the child. Anti-abortion laws in Indonesia not making it easy for women to abort, she had to keep the child, despite a few attempts at doing « self-abortion » with pills. A wonderful baby girl was born in August 2006. I** then went to spend three months in Europe, in the midst of the European winter, where the father lives. She tried hard to get used to her new circumstances but, not speaking the local language, having no local friends and not getting on well with her boyfriend she left Europe after 3 months, in February 2007. The whole in-law family were in tears then to see the baby girl head back to Indonesia.
I** is now back in Jakarta. She is on a 9-months hairdresser’s training school in Blok M. She is 2 months into this programme and has 7 months to go to complete the course. She can’t wait to complete the course and be able to start having an income from this occupation. Her father, who did not want to have a daughter but a boy and who spends money on girls, does not support her financially – she has not seen him in 4 years. Her boyfriend seems to be sending her some money every month for child support. This is not enough to live though. So she hangs out 2-3 times a week at Shangri La’s club, BATS, and when she fancies the guy who approaches her (she prefers Europeans she says) she goes with him and makes love in return for money which she needs to keep her and her daughter going.
I** is a very attractive slim girl with a beautiful dark skin, a beautiful shy smile. When she lived in Europe all the guys were after her to the point where her ex-boyfriend almost had to fight with them to keep them away from her.
Though she is only 24, one can already feel her intense experience of life and her sense of responsibilites for her child and also towards other working girls whom sometimes she helps financially with her modest pennies. She hates what she has to do for a living (she starts crying when she talks about it) and can’t wait to start her hairdresser’s career to get a regular income. She says she’s been with about 30 men to date, all seem to have treated her well. She exclusively goes with Bule guys and insists that she prefers European men.
I recently spent a full day with I**, about 20 hours or so in total. We went to a restaurant for lunch, then to a spa, then had dinner together and spent time together at my place – it was a great date day. I was little by little falling for I**.- so attractive and gracious, so sweet, so caring, so much sense of her responsibilities and such a big heart. When she finally opened up to me to share the other side of her story (freelance prostitution), I felt an intense sense of outrage and injustice inside of me, initially directed at the irresponsible attitude of her unsupportive father. The case of I** is sadly far from being isolated in Jakarta and many such wonderful human beings are having to « do what they need to do » to survive. They are so easy to fall in love with: despite the circumstances they are in, they are so genuine, naturally caring and generous. A situation like this always feels awkward of couse: in particular because in the West, an angel like I** would find herself a boyfiriend (to become husband) with a good income in no time at all. Here in Jakarta, she has to meet men to make ends meet, which certainly takes care of her short-term money needs but not of her long-term situation. Once I** becomes a hairdresser, I would not be surprised if she has to continue to be a freelance prostitute to complement her modest income – sadly.[/QUOTE]I heard the sad news that Kasuci, also known as Santi, ex working girl in Malaysia, Batam and BATS, died of AIDS two months ago. She was in the business of providing pleasure to men like us, unfortunately she died of being too generous and of some selfish guys not wearing a condom..
[QUOTE=Menteng]You had covered sex with her recently, but how was it back in 2005? :D[/QUOTE]
She's shown me numerous photos of the little one and, sad to say, the baby doesn't look like me at all, although he does have your eyes :)
For better or worse, with the exception of my significant other, I haven't had uncovered sex with anyone since December 1986 (and that was with a big-boobed young lovely named Lin, who is still alive and healthy)
Some time ago I found myself at the airport with time to kill.
I remembered reading in various forums about the transit hotel being a front for short time activities, and decided to try it out. The deluxe room is USD 50 for up to 6 hrs (?). The guy at the front desk mentioned the in-room massage service which I took as a positive sign. Went to the room, freshened up and ordered a one hour session for 175 000 Rp.
After a good 20 min a got a knock at the door. Expected a young hottie, but got a ~35 y o well past her expiration date. She gave me the worst body massage ever, which I at first took as a sign that she wasn't there cos of her traditional massage skills.
But the session when on and did not improve. She tried some lame ball and cock touching but seemed very inexperienced. In the end I declined her proposal for special massage and just sent her on her way.
So I took one for the team, just so you don't have to.
If anyone has any good experiences from the transit hotel, pls share. It would be a good place to get prepared before flying out, providing they had quality service providers.
[quote=genpao]anyone can tell me which massage parlour can find local chinese girl (not prc chinese) in jakarta, thanks a lot !![/quote]
easier said than done, there aren't that many working girls who are local chinese, although there are some, primarily in the higher-end mps in kota.
the reasons why most of the chinese girls working here in jakarta are from mainland china are (1) there's a mystique about them, especially their pale skin and (2) they are easy for the mp owners to control, as the owner will confirep001e their passports. and (3) if the mp ever gets busted, the girls are deported instead of sent to jail, and the owner can import a fresh crop a week later!
the quickest answer to your question is to go to kartika and ask for sonia, who is definitely chinese, and local (from semarang, i think). she's not the youngest girl working there, she's in her late 20s, but she's fairly cute, has short bright red hair and will provide good service. like many chinese girls, she has those great pencil-eraser-tip nipples, and i've always enjoyed my sessions with her, going back to february 2005.
she seems to prefer working in a two-girl session with another kartika girl (let her pick the other girl!) although she's fun to be with alone as well. note: she's currently not on speaking terms with the famous cynthia, so don't expect that particular two-some.
plus, she speaks excellent english, one of the very few girls at kartika who knows more than two or three words of english.
[quote=mighty spearsman]easier said than done, there aren't that many working girls who are local chinese, although there are some, primarily in the higher-end mps in kota.
the reasons why most of the chinese girls working here in jakarta are from mainland china are (1) there's a mystique about them, especially their pale skin and (2) they are easy for the mp owners to control, as the owner will confirep001e their passports. and (3) if the mp ever gets busted, the girls are deported instead of sent to jail, and the owner can import a fresh crop a week later!
the quickest answer to your question is to go to kartika and ask for sonia, who is definitely chinese, and local (from semarang, i think). she's not the youngest girl working there, she's in her late 20s, but she's fairly cute, has short bright red hair and will provide good service. like many chinese girls, she has those great pencil-eraser-tip nipples, and i've always enjoyed my sessions with her, going back to february 2005.
she seems to prefer working in a two-girl session with another kartika girl (let her pick the other girl!) although she's fun to be with alone as well. note: she's currently not on speaking terms with the famous cynthia, so don't expect that particular two-some.
plus, she speaks excellent english, one of the very few girls at kartika who knows more than two or three words of english.[/quote]good to see that you are finally being helpful in the jakarta thread md ii.
Mandiri,
Just a question this lady that you are talking about sounds like a girl I know from Jakarta. Was she in France last winter? The story sounds so familiar with the story the girl I know told me.
If that is her then it is really unbelievable that we know the same person of all these people in jakarta.
But this girl's name is starting with an E and not an I
Curious to hear more from you
Thanks man
I am just back from a business trip to jakarta and as usual stayed at the MULIA. I used to live in jakarta for a few years so I speak the language very well which helps in talking to the ladies. They like it when a white guy talks indonesian.
I am always more busy with the girls than with my work. I have a hard time getting my programme done. As I have so many girls to see. Through the years I know many girls there and some are always good to 'see' but we also like to try some new meat. Anywayzzz I went to CJ's most of the evenings and scored some really nice girls. One night I brought 2 girls home. This one girl is a model (she has pics in many sexy pics magazines) I knew her already for a few years. And lost track of her. I saw her kissing with a girl that looks almost the same as she. The other girl was a model too. I know that Nadya likes girls too so I when I approached her she was very happy to see me. Both were already quite drunk so I was standing with them and both girls started rubbing against me. These girls both look amazing. Many of the guys in the club were looking at me like: wow you are doing a good job. Anyway I was getting quite hot as the girls kept kissing eachother in front of me. So I suggested to go up to my room.
We did and coming up both the girls undressed and went for a shower. In the shower they started to kiss again and feeling eachother. Damnzzzz I was getting so horny. I went in bath to clean up so I am ready to jump in bed together with the girls no time to waste.
So when we went to the bed. The girls both started to suck my dick. That was already hard as a rock. Then I started to lick and. Man we had a night just like a porn movie. We didn't sleep at all. These girls kept on and on also with eachother. This was one of the best nights I ever had in jakarta.
The next day I was so tired that I hardly could work but a night without going out in jakarta is not possible. I have been in so many countries but Indonesia is a dream for man. The company I worked for had many white guys working but all these guys were divorced within a year as they could not resist the indonesian girls.
I was luckily still single at that time. But I cannot bring my girl to jakarta as I have to many girls that I know there. This would be way too dangerous for me. Hahahahahahahaha
Also I agree with an earlier writer that [url]www.friendster.com[/url] is a good way to find nice girls in jakarta.
Good luck guys!
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[QUOTE=Seqoya]Mandiri,
Just a question this lady that you are talking about sounds like a girl I know from Jakarta. Was she in France last winter? The story sounds so familiar with the story the girl I know told me.
If that is her then it is really unbelievable that we know the same person of all these people in jakarta.
But this girl's name is starting with an E and not an I
Curious to hear more from you
Thanks man[/QUOTE]Hi,
Unfortunately since I do not know you and I want to ensure I**'s integrity and potentially shield her from the wrath of the father of her child if he were to discover what she does for a living,I am unable to answer your requests. Apologies for that.
To answer the second part of your comments, yes indeed it is interesting that we (may) know the same girl, however since many of these girls form the core of BATS/CJ's etc that many of us ISG forum members patronize, it is not too surprizing at the same time.
After the many posts on the subject by Mr Bulai69, well I can proudly say that I did spot them on Monday ! I am talking about the Indo girls waiting for prospects at the airport. I arrived Monday at the airport about 7.30pm and there were about 3 of them, nicely dressed up and make up obviously anxiously looking for someone, they looked quite nice. They were certainly easy to spot. I was in a rush to head to the city so I did not attempt anything.
[QUOTE=Asian MP Lover]Some time ago I found myself at the airport with time to kill.
I remembered reading in various forums about the transit hotel being a front for short time activities, and decided to try it out. The deluxe room is USD 50 for up to 6 hrs (?). The guy at the front desk mentioned the in-room massage service which I took as a positive sign. Went to the room, freshened up and ordered a one hour session for 175 000 Rp.
After a good 20 min a got a knock at the door. Expected a young hottie, but got a ~35 y o well past her expiration date. She gave me the worst body massage ever, which I at first took as a sign that she wasn't there cos of her traditional massage skills.
But the session when on and did not improve. She tried some lame ball and cock touching but seemed very inexperienced. In the end I declined her proposal for special massage and just sent her on her way.
So I took one for the team, just so you don't have to.
If anyone has any good experiences from the transit hotel, pls share. It would be a good place to get prepared before flying out, providing they had quality service providers.[/QUOTE]I was there too last week. I had an open schedule before flying out and decided to head out to the airport early and try it out, as I have read good things. It was my first time. Took the same package room and 1 hour service, the lady that arrive was in her mid 30s. The massage was not that great but ok. I would rate the lady at 4 out of 10.
I feel that it is hard to get a girl from massage service that is to my liking every time, it is like a batting average. Would I go back, maybe not for a while. I think there are lots of other choices in Jakarta.
[QUOTE=Seqoya]If that is her then it is really unbelievable that we know the same person of all these people in jakarta.[/QUOTE]
Actually the girls on the "bule circuit" are not that many. The same girls go to Bats, Cj's and 30 every night (the bule circuit) for years. It doesnt take long to know most of them. It's more likely than you think that many of us may know this girl if she's a regular at Bats. There was a period of time about 5 years ago where I could go to any bar on the bule circuit and I would have already slept with every decent looking girl in every one of those bars. I had to finally exit the bule circuit and go to north jakarta to find new girls.
[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]She's shown me numerous photos of the little one and, sad to say, the baby doesn't look like me at all, although he does have your eyes :)
For better or worse, with the exception of my significant other, I haven't had uncovered sex with anyone since December 1986 (and that was with a big-boobed young lovely named Lin, who is still alive and healthy)[/QUOTE]
Oops, I feel relieved! More Indonesians have eyes like mine, so it´s easy to have it denied that I´m the father.
AIRPORT TRANSIT HOTEL:
Guys, I think you should do what the great Bulai69 has done. Bring or call a girl you know with special skills, to kill those last hours in Jakarta.
[QUOTE=Smoothy] I had to finally exit the bule circuit and go to north jakarta to find new girls.[/QUOTE]Looking forward your reports :)
Been to Alexis?
Mandiri,
I think we talk about the same girl. I know her as E. Anyway, I am not the father I am from another part of the world. And I think the father definetely will know that she was a working girl. I have no doubts to believe that the first dates she had with him were paying dates. After she may fell in love with him and maybe other way around. But it is still a very sad story for her. That guy is really a pain in the ass. And she deserves so much better than that. She is really a very nice and sweet girl!
When I go to jakarta I Will defintely meet up with her.
She is one of the few that I keep seeing after I had them.
But you are right and also the others that a lot of the girls we had. We maybe have shared; ))
Anyway keep up the good work!
Take care
[QUOTE=Smoothy]Actually the girls on the "bule circuit" are not that many.[/QUOTE]True. Girls on the bule circuit stay there until they've married a bule, followed a bule to another part of Indonesia/Asia or got themselves pregnant and gone back to kampung to become a kampung girl again. Kota girls stay in kota for the duration their kota shelf life which is dertermined by their managers and seldom exceeds 5 years, I would say. Once kicked out of kota some may start a career on the bule circuit.
Stopped by Maribaya Spa (Hotel Melawai 6th floor) in Blok M earlier this week. Two of my favorites, Evie and Citra, no longer work there, and a third favorite, Sandra, was busy being chatted up by a white guy (a fellow ISG-er?).
Tried out a new girl, Ayu, who’s only 20 years old, has only worked there for one month. Very short, very thin (43 kgs), nice shoulder-length straight brown hair, face nothing special, but a nice smile, and a dynamite body from the neck down – she has the type of model-thin body that Bulai69 or Bali Semut would go crazy over. Very small but firm breasts. Has one child who's just around a year old.
Turned out to be a great choice. Once in bed she showed a lot of energy and enthusiasm to provide good service, not yet burnt-out or “professional” in the way that some of these girls tend to be after a few years working at an MP. She very much enjoyed sitting on my face for DATY, claiming to have come at least once, then she moved down for a cowgirl FS session with condom. Very tight, no surprise there. Ended the hour with some nice cuddling and an abbreviated second round (got another erection, used a second condom, but no second shot). 350,000 rupiah plus a very much appreciated 50,000 rupiah tip.
Highly recommended if you like tiny girls and don’t mind the just-average face.
mind
Dear Gents!
Desperately trying to search if Azerty left a telephone number for the so called Mr. Don for massage service in hotel......so far no luck. I am just here for an overnight trip and am destitute without this contact! Can anyone of the veteran members of this forum help me out?? Any suggestions?
Many thanks....
[QUOTE=Dr. Beat]Dear Gents!
Desperately trying to search if Azerty left a telephone number for the so called Mr. Don for massage service in hotel......so far no luck. I am just here for an overnight trip and am destitute without this contact! Can anyone of the veteran members of this forum help me out?? Any suggestions?
Many thanks....[/QUOTE]Have left Dons No in Yr Private Messages as believe posting publicly will only result in deletion of message.
Sorry, I'm new to the mall pick up scene. I will be in Jakarta soon. I'll be around Pasaraya mall most of the time. Has anyon had success in picking up ladies at Pasaraya? If so is there a certain part of the mall to go to, or things to notice? When I get there, I'll be sure to give a report here. Thanks.
Chad
[QUOTE=Dr. Beat]Dear Gents!
Desperately trying to search if Azerty left a telephone number for the so called Mr. Don for massage service in hotel......so far no luck. I am just here for an overnight trip and am destitute without this contact! Can anyone of the veteran members of this forum help me out?? Any suggestions?
Many thanks....[/QUOTE]I've been able to use Mr. Don's services and found the massage satisfying. I still have his number on my phone book so hope this helps. +62 813 8526 1701.
Cheers
[QUOTE=Samchad]Sorry, I'm new to the mall pick up scene. I will be in Jakarta soon. I'll be around Pasaraya mall most of the time. Has anyon had success in picking up ladies at Pasaraya? If so is there a certain part of the mall to go to, or things to notice? When I get there, I'll be sure to give a report here. Thanks.
Chad[/QUOTE]
There are definitely some girls who are on the hunt in Pasaraya. Several were pointed out to me by one of my Indo girlfriends. They seem to roam around the area at the Coffee Shop near one of the entrances (Starbucks?), and the Food Court. If they fancy you they’ll seek eye contact and smile invitingly.
However, I don’t know whether they are working girls or girls looking for a steady relationship with a foreigner to improve their lives. She just commented that they were 'girls looking for Bule.'
If you want to score a working girl go to Atrium Mall in Senen. Lots of opportunities there. Mind you, most of these girls don't speak English.
Samchad, like El Culion I've run across pros in and around the Food Court at Pasaraya. Also a few in an internet cafe where some working girls run their traps prior to hitting the bars and karaokes in Blok M. I could tell because they were alone or in groups of two, sometimes dressed a little on the slutty side, and would smile back when you smile at them. In that area though, I much prefer Hotel Melawai massage during the daytime and the bars on Jalan Falatehan late at night. But then I've only got about a 200 word vocabulary in Bahasa Indonesia, and much prefer shooting fish in a barrel to sport fishing.
[QUOTE=Samchad]Sorry, I'm new to the mall pick up scene. I will be in Jakarta soon. I'll be around Pasaraya mall most of the time. Has anyon had success in picking up ladies at Pasaraya? If so is there a certain part of the mall to go to, or things to notice? When I get there, I'll be sure to give a report here. Thanks.
Chad[/QUOTE]Well if you are in the area you can try the Blok M Mall beside Pasaraya, it is under the Bus Terminal, also there is Melawai Plaza just behind Pasaraya and also close by the Blok M Plaza.
All these are possibilities. As a contributor pointed out the internet cafe below the Pasaraya food court ( beside Ace Hardware ) can be fruitful.
Thanks for the pointers on Pasaraya mall. I'll check out the internet cafe. It sounds like the easiest spot to spot a pickup. I'll make a report when I get a chance to try it out.
If you go to Pasaraya or other malls you can definitely pick up girls. There are working girls but also normal students that like orang bule. You can also get these girls they will like to have a relationship with you. So they want to go out shopping diner that kind of things. I have picked up many girls like this in Jakarta and you can fuck them also quite easy but they will try to be your real girlfriend in order to come to europe with you. If you play these girls you can easily keep them satisfied without bringing them home. Just be friendly with them and keep in touch once in a while by msn yahoo or sms. I have played many girls like this. Sometimes I met 3 on a day. I was more busy with playing the girls and keeping everything running smoothly then with my business meetings.
Then another thing. I was always wondering why a lot of bule guys like the kampung girls so much the real kampung girls. With the babu faces. I still can't get it. You can get almost every girl there without any problem if you pay them so why pick out these ugly ones and pay for them too. I sometimes see them walking together in mulia or in the mall and think why why why? My indonesian friends always ask me too. Why are all these bule guys always picking out the ugly ones. That was a question I could not answer too. It is certainly not my taste but maybe some of our colleagues can answer this question.
Anyway I have travelled a lot and have been with many girls in many countries. Indonesia is still for me the best and my absolute favourite.
Although the FKK clubs in Germany are really great too.
[QUOTE=Seqoya]I was always wondering why a lot of bule guys like the kampung girls so much the real kampung girls. With the babu faces. I still can't get it. [/QUOTE]
I'm not sure what a babu face is. But I do know that the local indonesians will find girls attractive only because they are tall or have white skin that I think are mediocre. While they will think girls are not attractive with dark skin that I think are fantastically hot looking. I find the indonesian "actresses" to be fairly plain for the most part. But the indos go gaga over them.
I was recently in cj's and an indian guy was with me. He didn't like any of the girls in there even though there were alot of nice ones. Then in walks this tall white skinned girl who was somewhat chubby and had a big nose. That was the one he was attracted to. I thought he was nuts thinking she was nicer than the other girls, but I noticed all the arabic and indian guys where throwing themselves at this girl. I wouldn't have thrown her out of bed, but there were at least 20 better looking girls than her in that bar that night.
One man's garbage is another man's treasure.
[QUOTE=Originally Posted by Samchad]
Sorry, I'm new to the mall pick up scene. I will be in Jakarta soon. I'll be around Pasaraya mall most of the time. Has anyon had success in picking up ladies at Pasaraya? If so is there a certain part of the mall to go to, or things to notice? When I get there, I'll be sure to give a report here. Thanks.
Chad[/QUOTE]
To identify mall girls, make sustained eye contact and smile. Regularly girls may make some eye contact but when it gets uncomfortable they turn away. If you see someone making a lot of eye contact just talk to them. Be aware that many of these girls speak no English.
Cheers
Went to the Maribaya Bar on the 6th floor of Hotel Melawi yesterday evening around 6.30 pm. The selection was quite good with 15-20 girls, with some 7-8s. Picked a SYT and the others tried to get me to do a threesome or even a foursome at IDR350K per girl. Tempting offer.
Found the room was quite dingy by my standards. Started with a shower and decided to skip the massage (dingy room turned me off). She gave the usual cat bath with BBBJ/AR, followed by cowgirl FS and finished with missionery. Overall experience 5-6 only. She became a bit wild and started biting me as I was pounding her.
Caution of warning about taking non-Silverbird/Bluebird taxis...the stupid taxi couldn't find my 5-star hotel and took me for a IDR60K ride. Also, only Silverbird/Bluebird taxis issue receipts, so I couldn't get one for an expense claim.
[QUOTE=Panya]Oooh yeaaa ... touche!
The great MDII finally re-surfaces, eh? Don't forget, our penile prints are supposed to be the same, if you believe what a famous FL in Malaysia said. ;)
Yes, let's do TT -- how about Monday 25th at Coffee Club in Plaza Senayan, say, 6.30pm, okay? Cannot? Why, why why? :p[/QUOTE]
Bastard, bastard, bastard!! You know why but it looks like it wont be long now:D.
[QUOTE=Necro24]Good to see that you are finally being helpful in the Jakarta thread MD II.[/QUOTE]
Hmmm.... Mighty Spearsman would be MS. Perhaps you need to go through the alphabet again with your nursery teacher - I think you've got the wrong identity Necro! When are you going to make yourself useful before you make this kind of comment about Seniors who have posted numerous informative posts including many photo posts? You have maybe 3 posts with some useful information!
MD II
Asian MP Lover - I am sorry you had a bad experience at the Transit Hotel. I've written reports on that following extremely favourable experiences there. But I would suggest that it is very imporant to stress what kind of girl you want - you need to be very firm about that with the guy on reception and if such a girl doesn't arrive, respectfully ask for another one.
Dear Necro24, I believe your getting MDII mixed up with the original poster "Originally Posted by Mighty Spearsman"
KL Guy ;)
[QUOTE=Necro24]Good to see that you are finally being helpful in the Jakarta thread MD II.[/QUOTE]
Is getting rimmed by a girl common in Jakarta? How do you ask for it? Is there a Bahasa Indo term to use? Thanks in advance for your advice?
[QUOTE=Samchad]Is getting rimmed by a girl common in Jakarta? How do you ask for it? Is there a Bahasa Indo term to use? Thanks in advance for your advice?[/QUOTE]Try with this: "saya mau main dengen pantat kamu"
Can be translated with: I would like to play with your ass
This is what I use, .and be sure she will get the point and you will make her laugh also.
Ildom
Not a worthwhile report and no hard info because i didn't partake but feel its worth saying that i found Cj's a great bar, with a lot of excellent talent on display and available! I was staying at Aryaduta but next time in Jakarta will be at Mulia.
Got there reasonably early 10 ish, it was ladies night, and things steadily hotted up from there. I really like the way everything happens a bit different to, say, OT Singapore. Everyone knows why they are there, but no-one making moves until around 11:30 midnight. I found myself having dialogue with a group of 5 young sweeties, any one of whom i would happily take away! once it became clear i was not going to take anyone, they really put the pressure on - some close holds and tongue kissing :-)
Enjoyed and will be back! Would reccomend Cj's as an easy spot
Ozirob
Nothing unusual in having coitus interuptus because of a SMS/Hp call but to combine Cowgirl with Reply to All on her Blackberry was a new one.
How things have changed.
Time to head downmarket again.
[QUOTE=Ozirob]i didn't partake but feel its worth saying that i found Cj's a great bar, with a lot of excellent talent on display and available! [/QUOTE]
The 3 popular 5 star hotel bars are mentioned many times in this forum. BATS in the Shangri La, CJ's in the Mulia, and Tiga Puluh in Le Meridien. Those 3 have been the most popular 5 star hotel bars for at least 10 years now. Burgundy at the Hyatt is more upscale, but also a pickup spot. Mistere at the Ritz Carlton is a similar setup to CJ's, but it doesn't get as big of crowds and is more upscale. Even your Aryaduta Tavern bar has some action, but not as much as those other spots. Park Lane hotel has Stix which has a similar amount of action to Aryaduta. Crowne Plaza Hotel has Retro disco which has more techno music while all the others have pop with the exception of Stix which has Salsa. Retro is a later night place. Those are the main popular pickup places in 5 star hotels for expats. But there are so many other places in town not in 5 star hotels. References to all of them have already been posted in this forum as far as I know.
I will say that CJ's is greatly improved since they remodelled. It's much easier to survey the bar than it used to be. Glad you enjoyed CJ's, but don't limit yourself to that one place. There are so many good places to try throughout the city.
Just up the road from CJ's in Taman Ria is Embassy disco (mainly a techno, ecstacy place). Just down the street from CJ's in the other direction is Red Square and X2. Those are 2 upscale bars where the upper class girls like to hang out.
Blok M is about a 5 to 10 minute drive from CJ's as well and we all know the pleasures that can be found there...
In the past, the hot late nightspot and most infamous bar in all of southeast asia was Tanamur. (it's a damn shame that place isn't around anymore) But now that Tanamur is gone, the infamous late night place in Jakarta is Stadium in north Jakarta. I know people in Singapore who fly to Jakarta just to go to Stadium for the weekend, then fly back to Singapore to go back to work. It's open 24 hours and has an in house *****house as well as the disco. It's a techno/ecstacy place, the waiters will actually offer to sell you ecstacy when they take your drink order. It's not a place you'd want to go by yourself if you are new in town, but it can be fun if you go with someone who has been before. I don't ever do ecstacy, but I still enjoy myself there.
I had some friends who stayed at the Mulia recently for 3 weeks. Due to typical warnings from their company about dangers in Jakarta, they were scared to go anywhere other than 5 star hotels. Even though I told them those dangers were greatly exaggerated and offered to take them to other areas of town, they refused. So we ended up meeting at the Mulia or BATS when we met. They told me they were paying the girls 1 million rupiah a night. I informed them that was too much and that they should try to negotiate them down to 500-600k for the night, but they claimed none of the girls would go for less than 1 million. I even offered to negotiate for them, but they said they didn't want that because they didn't want to look cheap in front of the girls. I guess if you're on a nice expense account, $100 usd doesn't seem like so much. The sad thing was I saw some of the girls they were taking and those girls weren't even worth 400k for the night in my opinion. A couple of them I wouldn't have taken for free.
[QUOTE=Samchad]Is getting rimmed by a girl common in Jakarta? How do you ask for it? Is there a Bahasa Indo term to use? Thanks in advance for your advice?[/QUOTE]
The common expression in Jakarta is "mandi kucing" (mandee koocheeng).
To make sure she will do AR, you can ad "sampai lubang pantat" (sampay loobang pantat" where the letter "a" sounds like the "u" in "much".
[QUOTE=Smoothy]I had some friends who stayed at the Mulia recently for 3 weeks. Due to typical warnings from their company about dangers in Jakarta, they were scared to go anywhere other than 5 star hotels....The sad thing was I saw some of the girls they were taking and those girls weren't even worth 400k for the night in my opinion. A couple of them I wouldn't have taken for free.[/QUOTE]
That's ironic, after the bomb in the Marriott Hotel a few years ago --it seems like they should be staying away from the 5 star hotels, considering they're paranoid. I can tell where they're coming from, about the women, having spent a couple of weeks in the Mulia myself. If your Indonesian language skills are minimal, like mine, the most approachable women in C.J.'s are ugly sharks that will try to stick it to you, price-wise. I had a lot better luck, getting better service, cheaper prices, and hotter women by going to Blok M. It sounds like things have improved there though, based on your and Ozirob's reports.
[QUOTE=Menteng]
To make sure she will do AR, you can ad "sampai lubang pantat" (sampay loobang pantat" where the letter "a" sounds like the "u" in "much".[/QUOTE]
That might not "make sure" she will do it, but it will let her know what you want. It basically translates to "Until the anus".
Unfortunately i was about to have lunch. I think I'll skip it now.
Make sure you don't engage in any DFK after the AR. LOL!
Managed 2 rounds at different KTVs last week.
The first was a place called Melody, located in Blok M Plaza (opp. Grand Mahakam hotel). KTV rooms are small, but notorious for having about 45 girls literally screaming for your attention when you walk through the door.
I had previously eyed this girl sitting with one of my clients the last time, and she really had a body to die for. Standing at 5ft. 6in., larger than B-cups (less than C, as I found out later), long sturdy legs, and abs that hinted of the vagina sqqqquuuueeezzze ...
As the night progressed, she informed that it's 15 hours at Rp 35,000 per hour for the establishment, and she wanted Rp 1 million for herself. Yes ... total of Rp 1.5 million -- I said NO! Actually, it was negotiated down to Rp 500,000 for her, and I very, very nearly said 'Yes' -- not enough to drink, so was in control of my big brain. :D
So, I went back alone.
The next night decided to hit Cosmos -- it's really the best in terms of getting laid with KTV girls who know what it's all about. As I was feeling tired and really, really drunk -- went out with Korean clients this time -- decided to opt for the attached washroom bang. I must have pumped her forever, and could not cum ... well, I really overdid the liquor, and only had myself to blame.
Anyway, since she is quite a looker (and a groaner to boot), I will be following up with her outside of the KTV on my next trip. What was it that Brother Tamurlane said about "long term, relaxed relationships" ?? ;)
Best,
Panya
[QUOTE=Menteng]The common expression in Jakarta is "mandi kucing" (mandee koocheeng).
To make sure she will do AR, you can ad "sampai lubang pantat" (sampay loobang pantat" where the letter "a" sounds like the "u" in "much".[/QUOTE]
Hehehe ... you guys just make me crack up, especially Menteng with the "bule" guide on how to enunciate.
So, if someone's being a real asshole, would calling him "lubang pantat" be too polite, or is there a more appropriate street lingo for this?
Panya, never take a girl home directly from KTV. You will pay for the KTV service too.
These girls will love to see you outside the KTV so just ask their phone nr and ask what time they are ready. This is my strategy and it worked always. When they are ready they go directly to your hotel or you can decide to do it another day and you still have the nr.
Also prices are better to negotiate then.
Good luck
[QUOTE=Panya]So, if someone's being a real asshole, would calling him "lubang pantat" be too polite, or is there a more appropriate street lingo for this?[/QUOTE]
Mandipantat
[QUOTE=El Culion]Mandipantat[/QUOTE]
haha.. yes, that's actually quite funny. I guess that would be something to ask for before the anilingus, it would make things slightly more hygienic. The impolite version for Panya would be brengsek or bejad.. but better stick to the lubang pantat, you make more friends, as it definitely will raise some smiles.
I always call it Jilat bintang.
[QUOTE=Panya]
So, if someone's being a real asshole, would calling him "lubang pantat" be too polite, or is there a more appropriate street lingo for this?[/QUOTE]
you might also try
KURANGAJAR SIALAN
But if I wanted some AR, I might ask.
TOLONG MAKAN PANTAT
or do it to her first, then say
SEKARANG KAMU
or sit on her face, LOL
[QUOTE=1Ball]
or sit on her face, LOL[/QUOTE]Bwahahahaha ROFLOL :D
Thanks guys for the pointer. Maybe this bule will write it down on a paper and show it to the Blok M girls instead of trying to pronounce it. Do many girls in Blok M rim, or is it going to be tough to find?
I have to say I am impressed with Mr Bulai69's claimed friendster track-record of about 100% hit ratio.
I've hit the dating sites quite heavily lately and the results, while encouraging, are certainly nowhere near what Mr Bulai has achieved. From the immediate-bang chick to the very serious accountant who may need a few weeks' proper courtship before getting porked, I've met a bit a everything (about 10 chicks in total). The very good thing about it is that you can build a list of prospects whose varying bang cycles wil lead you to score them one after the other at various timeframes, thereby keeping you with lots of options open at any given time. All in all, strongly recommended, however the bang on the spot is, from my experience, not a sure thing. A bit of work, but worth it and so much more satisfying once you've put your flag on since you've had to work (only a little, this is JKT after all!) for it.
Enjoy!
Mandiri - just to be clear: I mean't almost 100% send a reply. I didn't mean I fucked 100% of them!! Many of the replies were politely pointing out that they already had a boyfriend and just used the site for exchanging stories with their friends. However, a lot of girls use it as a way of "showing off" by posting photo's of themselves in (perceived) glamorous locations or photo's of boyfriends with impressive cars etc etc. It's a way of up-ing their status. Jakarta girls are BIG on status and materialism. This is a worthwhile angle to exploit when "hunting" on friendster - although of course they will expect you to "deliver" if you catch one that way.
You ask "Why are all these bule guys always picking out the ugly ones." I have often wondered that, but it has been explained to me many times, by my various "girlfriends", it is because girls who are "jelek" will be considerably less likely to be get screwed by the likes of those who contribute to this forum when their benefactor bule is not around. It's a bit like owning a crappy old car on the grounds that it's less likely to get stolen or vandalised I suppose. Each to his own....
Very amusing contributions on how to ask for AR! Technically the most accurate from Menteng of course but I find it somewhat bizarre even having this discussion "in advance". Actually I think the only word you need to know is "sini" (here) if she doesn't go there without explicit direction!
[QUOTE=Master Diver II]Bastard, bastard, bastard!! You know why but it looks like it wont be long now:D.[/QUOTE]Bastard I'll be there end of July.:D Will you been there soon MS...oops MD?Plan to go shopping to Blok M with gf. Staying at the JW. Hope to pick up girls who be willing to do 3some with me and gf.
Panya - [blue][Non-English text deleted by Admin][/blue] should do it too. LOL
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[QUOTE=Panya]Hehehe ... you guys just make me crack up, especially Menteng with the "bule" guide on how to enunciate.
So, if someone's being a real asshole, would calling him "lubang pantat" be too polite, or is there a more appropriate street lingo for this?[/QUOTE]
Try "bangsat", where the letters "a" are pronounced like the "u" in "much".
But I would advice to run away as fast as you can after saying it :)
[QUOTE=Samchad]Thanks guys for the pointer. Maybe this bule will write it down on a paper and show it to the Blok M girls instead of trying to pronounce it. Do many girls in Blok M rim, or is it going to be tough to find?[/QUOTE]
There´s a MILF, who frequents D´s Place in blok M with the name of RIMA (what´s in a name :D). Very good rimming!
TWIMC: I think brother Panya was not asking for more info about the Indonesian words for AR, but what word to use when you´re dealing with an asshole (so to speak).
Other than Block M, where else is happening on a Sunday night?
[QUOTE=Menteng]To all of you: D´s place will close in 2 months. So enjoy the place, like there´s no tomorrow. [/QUOTE]
One of my favorite places. I am sorry to hear it’s closing.
Are you sure about it ?? Lets hope something similar will return in it’s place.
Mark
CJ's at Mulia is probably the best place on Sunday night; maybe 30% of girls in there are semi-pro hookers and many of the rest "amateurs", i.e. girls with jobs looking to supplement their income.
At the Novotel right now, wifi on my phone, tired, I will go check out CJ's after a little nappy. Thx for the suggestion as I was also thinking about what to do.
I will be in Jakarta on Monday night and was wondering if and where the best scene is on a Monday. CJs any good? My first time in Jakarta and need some pointers? I tend to go for a more classy girl. Need one urgently!
Thanks
My first time in Jakarta and only there 1 night and a Monday at that! Are there any nice places to look for cute girls? I heard red square and another place near there have great girls but on a Monday? I like upscale chicks.
Have heard so much about Jakarta so need to test it out. I wil be back for more time July!
Thanks
Am sure that in the case of my good friend that his percentage is well above the average batting ratio of hitters in the AL - perhaps we should simply refer to him as the Barry Bonds of Jakarta !
As for Sunday nights better to pm a senior and pray that they listen to your pitiful requests for contact details - CJ's is often dry on a sunday unless you drop your criteria.
Another phrase to avoid when they call you "Bule Basse" or "Bastard" - funnily happened to me as they thought I lived in Jakarta and wondered why I was forever changing partners. Its amazing how misconceptions can arise or is it because am too damned lazy to move out of the hotel at night or else my business partners never shut up until late thus reducing me to crawling into CJ's ! Mind you it has helped me avoid a fight or two from drunken persons whose nationality i shall not mention. It was more amusing as I was protected by not only the bouncers but also some ladies as well as the locals - now that is what you call the "Cheers" experience !!!
happy hunting and a good week to all
Has anyone ever been to Crown Disco at Glodok Plaza near Kota? Heard that many youngsters would follow you back if you buy them ecstasy.
There is ample guidance in the forum, however given your shortage of time and my abundance of it (being in UK now) I will summarise with a quick and easy solution. You say "upscale" which of course is open to interpretation.
If you want really "upscale" then you will be hard pushed to achieve very much in the next 24 hours starting from zero. Even in Jakarta finding even reasonably "upscale" girls takes a while (days/weeks, not hours). If you want a really attractive girl who is capable of totally convincing you that she is a nice girl, who appears really "upscale" because she has a Nokia N91 and a Gucci handbag and that this is the first night she has been out in weeks because she has a demanding high powered job but it's her friends birthday and she really likes you and and and.....then go to BATS. Although she hasn't has sex for 6 months which was with her long standing boyfriend who she finished with, you will pretty definitely get her back to hotel bedroom in 30 minutes and fuck her all night long for 400 - 600k. Because she has a brother who is going through university and needs to pay his fees and also an aunt who is ill in hospital she will push you for 1 million. Good luck, but you won't need any if you follow my advice.
[QUOTE=Tamurlane26]Another phrase to avoid when they call you "Bule Basse" or "Bastard" [/QUOTE]
I'm not so sure it really means "bastard", but it does amount to about the same thing in some of the girls eyes. Bule Basi is a term used for Bules who have been in Indonesia a long time. It basically translates to "spoiled (or rotten, or useless) Bule". So in other words, you aren't "fresh meat". LOL! If you speak Indonesian to the girls, they will almost always label you as Bule Basi no matter how nice you are or how much of a bastard you are. That's why I speak only english when I first meet girls in the upscale markets like the 5 star hotels. Alot of the girls there will lose interest if I speak indonesian to them. But honestly, the reason they don't want Bule Basi is because those type of guys know their game and won't be likely to fork over big money the first night or for their "sick father" later.
I don't agree on the fact that when you talk indonesian to the ladies that they lose interest. I am a young guy 33 y. O and look quite okay and I always have more attention of the women when I talk indonesian. They really like it and if you can be funny in their language. And make jokes with them. It is even better. It has given me a lot of free fucks. And a lot of these women wanted to be my steady gf but hey I am in indonesia man who wants a steady relationship. Not me for sure. But if you keep playing them and send them an sms once in while and say that you miss them they are quite ok with it. They willl keep on playing with other man for sure. But hey who cares.
But for me it is only an advantage to speak indonesian. I never talk english to these girls.
I agree better stay away from XTC. And drugs. Specially in a country like indonesia. If the police catches you. You will have a long long time sitting there. And it is not a hotel like in Europe. This is really shithole jail.
You can get these girls also without XTC or drugs. You can pay them for sex or promise them to go out shopping.
I know a guy who can sit a long time now in jakarta due to his business in XTC and this is really no fun at all in indonesia.
So keep away from that. Is my only tip!
[QUOTE=Seqoya]I always have more attention of the women when I talk indonesian. [/QUOTE]
I think it totally depends on the venue. If it's one of the 5 star hotels loaded with chickens, I think it's a better idea not to speak indonesian. Anywhere else in town, it's a good idea to speak it.
[QUOTE=Asian Rhino]Has anyone ever been to Crown Disco at Glodok Plaza near Kota? Heard that many youngsters would follow you back if you buy them ecstasy.[/QUOTE]
Please note that ecstasy is illegal in Indonesia!
Indonesia has some of the toughest drug laws of any country in the world, and seems to like to mete out harsh punishment to any foreigner who is caught with illegal drugs, to make an example of them. This is not a joke, from what I've read in the papers recently, there are a few foreigners on death row here after being found guilty of drug possession or drug dealing.
Any foreigner who gets involved with illegal drugs in Indonesia is nuts and is playing with fire - don't do it!
On a lighter note, the Vice-President of Indonesia just last week said that it was ok to use marijuana as seasoning on your food - but I think he was joking.
Having said that, I once again am suspicious that the person who made the quoted post is a newbie with only one post (as of this writing) and yet is recommending illegal activity - strange indeed!
I do not fully agree with not talking indonesian in the 5star hotels. I always go to CJS and the other clubs. And I always get good results when I talk in their language. Never had any bad experiences due to this. But for me no problems if you prefer talk english you talk english we all have our own preferences how to make a move on the ladies. So just see and do what you think is best!
I just thought I'd pass on an amusing experience the other day...
During a short visit to Singapore, I stopped into Ipanema in Orchard Towers to get a quick survey of the scene. After a short time I was having a discussion with a pleasant Cambodian girl. As I was getting her number for another day, an old BATS girl I hadn't seen in about 2 years pops up out of the dark and immediately recognised me. I guess she 'graduated', lol.
One of the earliest girls I met there back in the day, and not exactly my type even back then. Now she's aged closer to that drop off age, looks-wise. Nevertheless, she demanded s200 for ST, even though I didn't ask and certainly didn't want to (with the stunning cambodian with a 9 body only looking for s150).
Funny how the 500k BATS price is now 3-4x higher!
[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]Please note that ecstasy is illegal in Indonesia!
Indonesia has some of the toughest drug laws of any country in the world, and seems to like to mete out harsh punishment to any foreigner who is caught with illegal drugs, to make an example of them. This is not a joke, from what I've read in the papers recently, there are a few foreigners on death row here after being found guilty of drug possession or drug dealing.
Any foreigner who gets involved with illegal drugs in Indonesia is nuts and is playing with fire - don't do it!
On a lighter note, the Vice-President of Indonesia just last week said that it was ok to use marijuana as seasoning on your food - but I think he was joking.
Having said that, I once again am suspicious that the person who made the quoted post is a newbie with only one post (as of this writing) and yet is recommending illegal activity - strange indeed![/QUOTE]I totally agree my dear.
If you want to do drugs dont go to indonesia.
Ildom
[QUOTE=Asian Rhino]Has anyone ever been to Crown Disco at Glodok Plaza near Kota? [/QUOTE]
Before you enter the disco there is this hallway where girls tend to congregate and chat. Easy to pick up from there, plenty of supply. There won't be many pro's and knowledge of English is rather low, but still very easy to score.
Hi,
I've been looking in the forum to try to find if anyone replied to a guy who posted in the last few weeks about taking a girl to join him and his gf.
I'm in the same situation where I'm being "forced" to bang someone for "her" pleasure. Its not a necessity that the girl is bi, as my gf "claims" she wont touch the girl and only requires a licking from me.
Any idea's where would be the best place to try. I might be wrong, but i really don't think I can find someone suitable in friendster or msn/yahoo into this sort of thing.
Cheers
Alexis Hotel Overview. I normally spend all my time working when i come to Jakarta, but decided this time to see what was on offer so visited Alexis Hotel. This reminded me of a Taiwanese style lounge MP and was both large and very professional. There seemed to be a lot of different options on offer when i arrived at what looked like a very busy hotel front desk, but i decided to try the “Lounge”. Behind the front desk is a lift and the top floor (or second from the top) you will find the MP Lounge. When you enter, it all felt like a standard high class MP. You walking to a dressing area where you were provided pyjama's and a robe. You locked all your belonging in a locker and are provided with a wrist band with a magnetic key to open your locker. Once prepared you can do the normal wash up, shower, etc, before you moved into the lounge. On one side you will find legit massage cubicles, spa's and a small swimming pool, a bar and some deck chairs to lie in. On the other side there is a lounge with a large number of providers, ranging from locals, Russians, Chinese and Thai's. The locals were about 600,000 and the others about 1,500,000. The place was also filled with lounges and chairs which you can sit on and order drinks while you parsed the selection. I think the process from this point on can be imagined. There is an additional cost for the room, about 150,000, in some cases a service charge of 120,000 and you can even have a legit massage for 150,000. A rather pleasant, if costly establishment.
I have seen posts that tell us where to find almost every girl imaginable in Jakarta. Indo girls, Thai girls, Chinese girls, Vietnamese girls, White girls (russian)... but I have yet to see any posts on where to find nice black african girls in town. Does anyone have any information on where to find some sexy young african girls in town and how much they would cost? Preferably for a full service oil and/or body body massage with a large butted young african girl. I'd think the local indo guys would go crazy over this type of girl since they would be exotic to them, so there must be some out there. Supply and demand.
[QUOTE=Smoothy]I'd think the local indo guys would go crazy over this type of girl since they would be exotic to them, [/QUOTE]
Not so sure.
I think the Indo guys prefer the white meat like the russians or chinese.
Cheers!
[QUOTE=Smoothy]I have seen posts that tell us where to find almost every girl imaginable in Jakarta. Indo girls, Thai girls, Chinese girls, Vietnamese girls, White girls (russian)... but I have yet to see any posts on where to find nice black african girls in town. Does anyone have any information on where to find some sexy young african girls in town and how much they would cost? Preferably for a full service oil and/or body body massage with a large butted young african girl. I'd think the local indo guys would go crazy over this type of girl since they would be exotic to them, so there must be some out there. Supply and demand.[/QUOTE]
Having once lived with a "large butted young African girl," I am sympathetic to your request. But from what I've seen in 18 months living here, there are very, very few (if any) black African girls who are working as pros in Jakarta.
You might find a few black freelancers out there at the various nightspots in town, and you might be able to meet a girl at some of the spots where Africans gather. I don't have any specific info on these spots, but I know that they exist. There seem to be a lot of Africans in one neighborhood in Tangerang.
Part of the problem is that there just are not that many single African girls living here in Indonesia, for visa reasons and other reasons. I've run across a few beautiful African girls at various shopping malls here, but they all seem to be living here with their husband/boyfriend (who often is a professional soccer/football player).
My impression of "supply and demand" is the opposite of yours - most Indonesian men seem more interested in being with girls who are as light-skinned as possible, thus the reason why girls from China, Russia, Kazahkstan, etc. can get a premium price of 1,500,000 rupiah at local MPs while the local girls cost 1/3rd that amount or less.
If anyone has any better info than me on this subject, please share it with the board. I certainly cannot claim to be an expert on this subject, these are just my impressions.
They congregate in Jalan Jaksa in the bar opposite BFC however the challenge is you may be the only white guy in there and that might cause an issue ! Its a bit like going to a pimps convention - lots of bling and some great characters. Dont ask what I was doing in there as the story is so funny as to be ridiculous - but suffice to say it was a blast. Once you feel comfortable and they do also then you can have some fun and games - they have some of the strangest indo chicks with them as well - strange in the sense that once they start in on this scene they dont go to other bars again - must be something to do with the reputation or perhaps the performance !
Enjoy the journey - its a great bar and the joint jumps at night - just be prepared for some strange looks on entering - then again the same can be said if the Africans are seen anywhere else in the town as they carry with them a strange and often undeserved reputation.
I sometimes see black african women in CJ's. So there are some but only a few and they are not always there.
Good luck
Tamur, thanks for the suggestion. But I'm not looking for a place to pick up black women who are living in or visiting indonesia. I'm looking for black prostitutes similar to the PRC and Russian girls in the massage places. I don't want a relationship, I just want to go bang them for an hour and be done.
In CJs you still can find these black hookers. If they are around whether they live there or not. They are working girls for sure.
You can see it immediately they react when you look at them.
Hi, All,
I am staying in manhattan hotel, kuningan now. kind of tired to go out because just took a long jurney from Bandung.
Any outcall service SYt contacts to share for ST.
Deeply appreciate for your help.
[QUOTE=Smoothy]Tamur, thanks for the suggestion. But I'm not looking for a place to pick up black women who are living in or visiting indonesia. I'm looking for black prostitutes similar to the PRC and Russian girls in the massage places. I don't want a relationship, I just want to go bang them for an hour and be done.[/QUOTE]A quick flight to Papua would satisfy your needs. I have met a few in BALI also. Bone in the nose primative, so get ready for a ride.
I grew up in LA so I have also had the experience of dating black women. Very nice and sensitive with a lot of emotion while making love.
Good hunting.
RL
I haven't been to Papua. And I've never been with a girl who has a bone in her nose. If I could be guaranteed a black midget chick with a bone in her nose and a huge butt, I'd be on the next flight. But her breasts have to be firm. I don't care if they are big or small, but I don't want them to be floppy. Also, I dont want to be with any cannibal chicks. I need oral to get excited and wouldn't feel comfortable if the girl was a cannibal.
Hi Brothers,
Just came back from JKT and had a pretty interesting trip, to say the least; one of our esteemed ISG brothers joined me at the KTV, and we had a good time. This is what he wrote in a PM to me after the outing, and I just would like to share with one and all (I am keeping his name out of it for obvious reasons):
“ ... Sorry, I wasnt trying to scare you last night about this black magic practices. I personally don't believe, but these girls do.
The first girl didnt do something funny to your drink, but to you right shoe. She first poured the wiskey, followed by the beer. She took an ice cube w/ an ice chopstick and stirred it. Then, she ... (I don't know how to explain it, but it is similar like when a monk blessed a person using holly water). Lets forget about it … “
Here’s what happened …
As mentioned in my previous FR, I wanted to follow-up with a WL from my favorite KTV. We had kept in touch via sms, and I informed her that I would be arriving Jakarta again on 2nd July.
I arrived on the evening flight, had a pretty bad flu’, and the journey from the airport was spent fielding sms-es from her asking whether I would be going to the KTV that night.
Somehow, I got a bit annoyed at her pestering sms-es ... Basically, I am a GFE guy, and even though I know it’s money-for-honey where she’s concerned, I was irritated that it was so blatant on her part (seems that Indonesian girls have not been winning the Academy Award nominations for “Best Actress” recently). So, I replied to her that I wasn’t feeling well, and won’t be going out that night.
She asked whether she could come to my hotel, after she finished work, and I replied that if I was feeling better at that time, why not? So, I think she got the message, and became a bit more subdued, asking me to take care, have a good rest, etc. etc.
The next day, she sent me an sms in the morning, and said that she was moving to a new kos, and whether I was interested to help her pay for the moving – I said, “No!”. I was very proud of my assertiveness, and I’m sure my brothers from the Malaysian thread would be as well. ;)
After that, she showed up at my hotel in the evening, we had one round, and we went to the KTV. There was much drinking, and at one point, M asked me whether a friend of hers could come in for some drinks. Her friend, K, did not have any customers that night, and would like to come in for the drinks, no extra charge. I agreed, as I was feeling very happy from the drinks consumed.
K walks in, and when I saw her, I was very surprised. She came up to me, and asked, “Do you remember me?” I replied, “Yes, I have often looked for you all these years, but was told that you had resigned.” K was one of the first KTV girls I ever had in Jakarta, and this goes back some 4 years ago! Turns out, she and M were staying at the same kos now.
M looks at us, and asked whether I had gone out with K before, and I said, “Yes!”. K started feeling uncomfortable, and decided to sit far, far away from me, even though I asked her to sit with M and I – already scheming how to get 2 of them back to my room together. :D M then decides to throw a fuss, and goes to sit right next to one of my friends, and said that she wants to give me the chance to be with K.
This was followed by some whispered conversation between the 2 of them, slightly “heated” argument, and gesticulations on their part.
Aiya … well, sorted out everything, pacified M and she came back to sit with me. K disappeared somewhere else after awhile, and we just continued drinking, singing and dancing. That’s when my ISG brother told me that he spotted M doing “something”.
Well, I ended up with M that night, had one round in the shower together, and settled in for a much needed rest at 2.30am. Then …. M’s phone starts ringing every 30 minutes until 6.00am, K keeps calling her, and at one point I heard M telling her that 'the key to the kos is kept in the basket ….' suffice to say that I did not have any sleep at all.
Somehow I developed a hard-on at 7.00am, and wanted one more round. Started to kiss M, moved to her neck, down to her nipples … and was rebuffed by her!! She grumbled that her pussy “sakit” from the size of Little Panya …. which is nonsense !! (there’s a reason why I refer to him as “little”). Well, things became decidedly cool from then onwards.
I checked out from the hotel, while she waited at a discreet distance, and she remained chatting on her mobile phone up to the time she went into the taxi to go home. No ‘goodbye’ kiss or hug, not even a nod – sheesh!!
I’m going back to the KTV on my next trip, and I am going to select S, who was sitting with my friend – she’s not available for take-out, so I am interested in slowly working on her, for “long term, relaxed relationship”. :P
When will these P4P gals also realize that it’s honey-for-money where we’re concerned??
Best,
Panya
Panya you are right a lot of these girls pretend to care but they only care about our Uang (money) as long as you keep saying no to their questions then it is alright.
All these girls keep sending smses can you help me with this. Can you pay this for me. Can you do that for me. Fuck it. I am in fucking europe now why should I pay and get nothing in return. I don't know when I am back in jakarta. I am not santa claus.
They think that 800 euro is nothing for us. Man we can have a few nice rounds in a FKK club or whatever. For many people in europe this is a half month work. They do not know the value of money there. And think we bule people have all the money laying there to be given out. They think 800 euro is for us like 80 euro. I don't know what they are thinking.
I banged a singer once of a band that sang at that time in jakarta and she wanted to buy her a fucking mic. I said that she could have my own wireless mic and do a soundcheck. With that mic I meant little seqoya. She said. Aduh kamu. Nakal aja.
The other one sms me if I can help her pay her car for this month 3. 000. 0000 other wise the car will be gone. No no no no no. I said.
And so it goes on and on. With these GFs but for me I don't go there. I found a girl in Mulia. Just talked with her in the lobby she was nice and actress in some kind a soap and cinetron movies. I only send some smsses with her as I had to leave the other day. When I was back home. She asked me immediately for money. Is that crazy or not. I did not even fuck her. They are really not malu for asking.
As long as you guys know these girls only want our money. And think they can play us. But for me. I know I play them better. I keep them thinking they are the only one. But while I am there. I am banging all of them. I even fucked friends of eachother without they knowing it. And both thinking they had something with me.
We have to be smarter guys. Don't fall for the sad stories. At the end you will be millions of rupiah poorer and they will ask many of the bule guys for the same
They can have a nice living like this because they have a good database with white guys who think they are the only one.
I had a girl in Bali once she had a german older guy and when he came she was his gf. The guy was paying maybe 1000 euro per month to keep her out of the clubs that she will not work. But the girl was silently still going on with this work. I was calling her when he was there and because of the fact that I speak indonesian the guy thought it was family.
Anyway this guy fucked her until his wife in germany found out and the girl did not get money anymore
So guys watch out think with your heads and not with your dick.
[QUOTE=Bulai69]CJ's at Mulia is probably the best place on Sunday night; maybe 30% of girls in there are semi-pro hookers and many of the rest "amateurs", i.e. girls with jobs looking to supplement their income.[/QUOTE]
Can you take a lady from CJ's back to your room if you stay at the Mulia?
Cheers,
Fleet
No problem at all. I always stay at the mulia and they are used to the girls going up. But if you let them go out. Accompany them to the taxi cause security can do a bit difficult when the girl is coming alone.
Once I fucked a girl a model and she did not do a too good job and was very mooody I let her go home alone. My friends from security said in the morning that they had her waiting for 1, 5 hr. They said why is Mr. Seqoya not coming with you. You know that I was with your friend Mr. Seqoya but now you do difficult. Yeah the guys say. Mr. S is a friend but he is also my guest and he can be dead in his room. Normally he always bring back the girls. And now he doesnt. So we want your pasport etc etc. So the girl was really angry the other day. Hahahahahha fuck that shit.
[QUOTE=Fleetz]Can you take a lady from CJ's back to your room if you stay at the Mulia?
Cheers,
Fleet[/QUOTE]Yes. You can even take two is my guess.
Fleetz, Yes. You can walk directly to the elevator on the same level as CJ's and pretty much avoid the walk of shame -- the only people that will see you are a security guard and maybe the receptionist in the business center, and I've never been stopped by either.
Edit: That's weird, neither Seqoya nor Acerboy's posts were up when I originally wrote this, and Acerboy is a Senior Member. Sorry for the redundancy.
[QUOTE=Seqoya]Panya you are right a lot of these girls pretend to care but they only care about our Uang (money) as long as you keep saying no to their questions then it is alright.
All these girls keep sending smses can you help me with this. Can you pay this for me. Can you do that for me. Fuck it. I am in fucking europe now why should I pay and get nothing in return. I don't know when I am back in jakarta. I am not santa claus.
They think that 800 euro is nothing for us. Man we can have a few nice rounds in a FKK club or whatever. For many people in europe this is a half month work. They do not know the value of money there. And think we bule people have all the money laying there to be given out. They think 800 euro is for us like 80 euro. I don't know what they are thinking.
So guys watch out think with your heads and not with your dick.[/QUOTE]I've got part of the answer for you, mate: Friendster! As I am writing these lines, I have just come back from banging a chick I met 6 days ago at her own 3-bedroom appartment in Taman Anggrek.- a great experience to bang them in their own condo! Most of the chicks I have met on friendster have steady reasonably-paid jobs and have not asked me for $$$ so far. Mind you, I am of the type to bang them 2-4 times and then move on. So if I were to bang them more times, who knows if the $$ issue may not pop up.
There you go, mate!
Security has been a bit tighter recently with gals coming downstairs on their own after the bang is done. They are stopped by security almost systematically these days and either face an unpleasant moment of having to produce ID and wait or having to grease the wheel with 50k Rp.
So if you guys are gentlemen, do go down with them. You do not have to go all the way and escort them to the taxi area and therefore "enjoy" the walk of shame; it is enough to go down the lift with them and as soon as you come out of the lift on the groundfloor give a visual signal/eye contact with the guard and that's enough, you can then go back in the lift and to your room, you're done, no walk of shame.
[b]Rich club[/b]
New huge private club in town. Very upmarket, play mainly tech no music. Girls dancer sit with you in bikini and there are many SYT PRO. That is the minute u come in. I came at 9 pm there about.
At 10pm, music starts and the dancer goes on stage, 10 of them... only 2 piece bikini,,.... so dance and dance and off they goes.... If some dancers are slow to strip. The mammy will walk toward the stage and ask them to hand over the panties. U see after the mammy walking toward the other sides of the hall with all color of bikini in her hand. Quite funny though.....
And here the interesting part.... these naked ladies will go from table to table lap dancing and u can feel them all over... Quite nice and one of a kind really. Before the dance, they come lap dancing in 2 piece Bikini n now totally naked.... So what's the diff anyway??????
damaged : 2 btls Chives, some fruits and lady drink about 4 million.. hmmmm..... 5 guys and one lady went....
Cheers
[QUOTE=Spider2]Hi, All,
I am staying in manhattan hotel, kuningan now. kind of tired to go out because just took a long jurney from Bandung.
Any outcall service SYt contacts to share for ST.
Deeply appreciate for your help.[/QUOTE]
This is not an escort center.... Put in some effort to find what u want..
cheers
[QUOTE=Seqoya]I sometimes see black african women in CJ's. So there are some but only a few and they are not always there.
Good luck[/QUOTE]
Well. Africa is my biz for the past 10 yrs.
Do not touch them.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]Having once lived with a "large butted young African girl," I am sympathetic to your request. But from what I've seen in 18 months living here, there are very, very few (if any) black African girls who are working as pros in Jakarta.
You might find a few black freelancers out there at the various nightspots in town, and you might be able to meet a girl at some of the spots where Africans gather. I don't have any specific info on these spots, but I know that they exist. There seem to be a lot of Africans in one neighborhood in Tangerang.
Part of the problem is that there just are not that many single African girls living here in Indonesia, for visa reasons and other reasons. I've run across a few beautiful African girls at various shopping malls here, but they all seem to be living here with their husband/boyfriend (who often is a professional soccer/football player).
My impression of "supply and demand" is the opposite of yours - most Indonesian men seem more interested in being with girls who are as light-skinned as possible, thus the reason why girls from China, Russia, Kazahkstan, etc. can get a premium price of 1,500,000 rupiah at local MPs while the local girls cost 1/3rd that amount or less.
If anyone has any better info than me on this subject, please share it with the board. I certainly cannot claim to be an expert on this subject, these are just my impressions.[/QUOTE]
Well, U do have deep knowledge about these girls here..
They are not worth it.... African I slept with in Gabon and Tema are night mare...
Cheers
I always thought I knew these women after staying here for more then 10 years.
Here goes... Was not in the best of mood and just wanted to hv a drinks, it went on and at 11. A old "Friends" came in......
Went to my place,,,,,, was too drunk to hv sex.... so some oral.... she came twice I guess,.,,,,, me.... NO....
Time to go back.... friend was here with her friend... so booked taxi. Told her I transfer some money to her in the morn after adv her bank account number,,,,
Send me a few SMS in the morning threating me... Tell me to watch out if I do not give her money.....
Best part is...she do not hv a Bank account. Gave me her friend's.. a/c...
Anyway.. What u think u know might not be the real girl u know... be careful.....
cheeers
[QUOTE=Asian Rhino]Has anyone ever been to Crown Disco at Glodok Plaza near Kota? Heard that many youngsters would follow you back if you buy them ecstasy.[/QUOTE]
CROWD is dead..
Today in place......
1) K7
2) Sands
3) Milles
4) Centro/embassy
5) Stadium..
6) Classic Hotel
7) FM3
8) Mezza 9/
??????
??????
RGDS
[QUOTE=Mandiri]Security has been a bit tighter recently with gals coming downstairs on their own after the bang is done. They are stopped by security almost systematically these days and either face an unpleasant moment of having to produce ID and wait or having to grease the wheel with 50k Rp.[/QUOTE]
The Shangri la is notorious for shaking the girls down. But other hotels do it as well. I've had girls tell me they've been shaken down 5 different times for 50k each (total 250k) on their way out. (and these are girls I have known a long time and I trust, so I don't doubt they are telling the truth). They also tell me at times the security wants to take nude pictures and/or have sex with them or threatens to call the police.
I agree that walking them down is the correct thing to do.
[QUOTE=Panya]Managed 2 rounds at different KTVs last week.
The first was a place called Melody, located in Blok M Plaza (opp. Grand Mahakam hotel). KTV rooms are small, but notorious for having about 45 girls literally screaming for your attention when you walk through the door.
I had previously eyed this girl sitting with one of my clients the last time, and she really had a body to die for. Standing at 5ft. 6in., larger than B-cups (less than C, as I found out later), long sturdy legs, and abs that hinted of the vagina sqqqquuuueeezzze ...
As the night progressed, she informed that it's 15 hours at Rp 35,000 per hour for the establishment, and she wanted Rp 1 million for herself. Yes ... total of Rp 1.5 million -- I said NO! Actually, it was negotiated down to Rp 500,000 for her, and I very, very nearly said 'Yes' -- not enough to drink, so was in control of my big brain. :D
So, I went back alone.
The next night decided to hit Cosmos -- it's really the best in terms of getting laid with KTV girls who know what it's all about. As I was feeling tired and really, really drunk -- went out with Korean clients this time -- decided to opt for the attached washroom bang. I must have pumped her forever, and could not cum ... well, I really overdid the liquor, and only had myself to blame.
Anyway, since she is quite a looker (and a groaner to boot), I will be following up with her outside of the KTV on my next trip. What was it that Brother Tamurlane said about "long term, relaxed relationships" ?? ;)
Best,
Panya[/QUOTE]
Nice report.... I know these places..
Cheeres
Sorry was away for awhile due job commitment....
Anybody been to the tropical SPA in Roxy ??
Let me know ig u want to goes there..
Cheers
[QUOTE=Rainman 2108][b]Rich club[/b]
New huge private club in town. Very upmarket, play mainly tech no music. Girls dancer sit with you in bikini and there are many SYT PRO. That is the minute you come in. I came at 9 pm there about.
At 10pm, music starts and the dancer goes on stage, 10 of them. Only 2 piece bikini, . So dance and dance and off they goes. If some dancers are slow to strip. The mammy will walk toward the stage and ask them to hand over the panties. You see after the mammy walking toward the other sides of the hall with all color of bikini in her hand. Quite funny though.
And here the interesting part. These naked ladies will go from table to table lap dancing and you can feel them all over. Quite nice and one of a kind really. Before the dance, they come lap dancing in 2 piece Bikini and now totally naked. So what's the diff anyway?
Damaged: 2 btls Chives, some fruits and lady drink about 4 million. Hmmmm. 5 guys and one lady went.
Cheers[/QUOTE]Heh heh. Sounds good for me to have another go to jakarta again. Well. Just wondering what is the name of this place and how does the girls look? Can you bring them back? But it sounds like tiger show to me.
Strange. Recently on a Thursday night I went to K7 at around 12 midnight, normally a good time to go out. The place was completely dead. Not a soul to be seen.. apart from a few doormen. After that I moved on to Crown. The place was chock-ers and laden with cewek. Even a wheel-chair bound 70-yo high on Viagra would have been able to land himself a girl, right there and then ..if he was to speak a few words bahasa that is.
Hi Guys
I shall be arriving in Jakarta Saturday morning 07-07-07. I'll be in town until Thursday evening. Anybody want to meet up for some socialising etc?
I'm flying solo on this trip but feel that some experiences are best shared with a co-pilot.
SK
[QUOTE=Smoothy]The Shangri la is notorious for shaking the girls down. But other hotels do it as well. I've had girls tell me they've been shaken down 5 different times for 50k each (total 250k) on their way out. (and these are girls I have known a long time and I trust, so I don't doubt they are telling the truth). They also tell me at times the security wants to take nude pictures and/or have sex with them or threatens to call the police.
I agree that walking them down is the correct thing to do.[/QUOTE]Wow, unbelievable, 250k Rp! Poor chick!
Definitely walk them go.
[QUOTE=Tiny 12]Fleetz, Yes. You can walk directly to the elevator on the same level as CJ's and pretty much avoid the walk of shame -- the only people that will see you are a security guard and maybe the receptionist in the business center, and I've never been stopped by either.
Edit: That's weird, neither Seqoya nor Acerboy's posts were up when I originally wrote this, and Acerboy is a Senior Member. Sorry for the redundancy.[/QUOTE]There is a lag to posting, I guess Jackson filters all the postings or it goes through some kind of delay mechanism before it is up on ISG. But there doesn't seem to be any consistency in the timing from what I can see.
Looking forward to my Jakarta trip early August. Hoping to have a few 3somes as gf is coming with me. Any FLs willing to do this, please pm me.
[QUOTE=Mandiri]I've got part of the answer for you, mate: Friendster![/QUOTE]
I have always wondered about the results that you can get from these sites. I had signed up for Adult Friend Finder, but never went all the way to pay the fees to become a full-time member.
A bule friend in Jakarta signed up for Skype, and was almost immediately inundated with girls he never knew sending him messages, offering themselves. With a name like "Anthony", I guess it's easy for the girls to do a random search, and blast messages to all "Anthony's".
Sequoya is right -- I think much has been written about this subject, and I think my experience just says it all. The girl I was with in my FR, Miss M, is 20 years old, from Semarang, got pregnant/married at 16 yrs, and divorced at 17 yrs, and has one kid. When she was with me, she was feeling depressed, cos her younger sister was going through the same fate -- 16 yrs old, and pregnant. Guess that the seed doesn't fall very far from the tree!
Best,
Panya
[QUOTE=Rainman 2108][b]Rich club[/b]
New huge private club in town. Very upmarket, play mainly tech no music. Girls dancer sit with you in bikini and there are many SYT PRO. That is the minute u come in. I came at 9 pm there about.
damaged : 2 btls Chives, some fruits and lady drink about 4 million.. hmmmm..... 5 guys and one lady went....
Cheers[/QUOTE]
Where's this place, bro? Sounds like an interesting change from the norm, and I'd like to check it out. Do they have private rooms?
Rainman. If these girls threaten you to watch out. Don't be scared. Tell them to fuck off and do not threathen you again or you will send your friends from intell after her. For sure she will stop. They are really afraid of intel
Specially with the job they have.
I recently read about a place called K7 but couldn't find a description of location. Can someone tell me how to get to it from Blok M? Thanks.
After reading for a while, I decided to send a post.
Checked out CJ's last Tuesday night. Seemed to be many semi-pro women and not a great amount of customers. Had a fun time making a choice. Shook off the first few and spent some time with another that caught my eye and gave me the "I'm available" smile. Well worth the time. She is not a pro. Just a Java girl trying to suppliment her day job. Great effort and came back for more on Weds night. Sorry to say I had to leave on Thursday, or we would have spent more time together. 800 and cab fare was enough to make her happy.
I have to say that CJ's is all that has been written about it.
Thanks for all the information.
[QUOTE=Samchad]I recently read about a place called K7 but couldn't find a description of location. Can someone tell me how to get to it from Blok M? Thanks.[/QUOTE]K7 is in Kota,
Go straight through to the end of the line pass the station pass cafe batavia (where you now have to go left and turn right again along the one way put in place). when you hit the end of the road North (you would have gone along the canal and passed Athena on your left) - turn right. in front of you at the junction you will see a sign post saying K7 and an arrow. after you turn right at the junction its about 300 mt along the same road.
So basically hit Kota, go North as long as you can, look for the sign and turn right.
[QUOTE=Fishfly] She is not a pro. Just a Java girl trying to suppliment her day job. [/QUOTE]
This MAY be true. However, any girl there on a tuesday night is very likely a "pro" regardless of what she tells you. You'll find the non-pros out on the weekend - mainly at the end of the month when rent is due. But on a tuesday night? Not likely.
CJ's isn't the only place in town like that. There are many many many...
[QUOTE=Exit93]Heh heh. Sounds good for me to have another go to jakarta again. Well. Just wondering what is the name of this place and how does the girls look? Can you bring them back? But it sounds like tiger show to me.[/QUOTE]
I wrote there right?
Name is "RICH" Private Club,.
Look wise... A easy 7/10...
Bring back. Well they love disco.... If u know what I mean....
If they are already totally naked here,,,,, why not let u enter for more money????
Cheers
[QUOTE=Panya]Where's this place, bro? Sounds like an interesting change from the norm, and I'd like to check it out. Do they have private rooms?[/QUOTE]
It's not a KTV but just dance club.
The rich sit and drink with the girls in Bikini.... Music very loud though....
Place is somewhere in Permata Hijia...
Cheers
"Can you take a lady from CJ's back to your room if you stay at the Mulia?" - the answer is "yes" - I have yet to find a hotel in Jakarta where you can't take in anyone you want. At worst you would have to pay a small tip to security (20,000 - 30,000) but I've never had to.
[QUOTE=Fishfly]After reading for a while, ...... 800 and cab fare was enough to make her happy.
Thanks for all the information.[/QUOTE]
I hope that the 800 KRp you are referring to were for the 2 sessions of both tuesday AND wednesday.
Else you will be driving the prices out of the ceiling and making it impossible for other guys to get to those girls.
Read again carefully the posts here and you'll find that 400 KRp is the normal and accepted price for one evening with the vast majority of the girls.
Cheers
Thanks Alvinyanto.
It was for two nights, but if I wanted to pay more it is up to me. Not what the rest of the market can pay.
I do respect the "normal" prices that are reported.
Yeah alvinyanto you are right. Everyone has to learn how to play these girls. As they love to play us. Anyway, a girl on Tuesday in CJ is definately a pro. They will not say that as they pretend to be shy and they want you to think you are the only one.
Would anyone know where I might be able to get toys (say a little vibrator) in Jakarta?
A couple of weeks I was at Changi airport and I bumped into a pro who used to hang out almost every night at CJ's. Though we have not shagged, she recognizes me -- and so do I-- and we say Hi to each other. She tells me that she's been working (ie freelancing) here in Singapore for a while.
Last Friday, I bump into her at CJ's ! We have a short chat and she brags about the 8,000 SING (more or less 5,000USD) she made while in Singapore for about a month of shagging guys. Her number looks a bit on the high side but hey whatever, that's not the point.
I then go and chat with another freelancer who recently took my fancy (though we have not yet shagged, I just chit chat with her while at CJ's) and she is telling me she wants to go to Singapore every once in a while spend a few weeks, come back to JKT, then back to Singapore etc. She then asks me about typical prices to rent a place or cheap hotels in Singapore.
Looks to me like the first chick aforementioned is spreading the news at CJ''s that it is possible to make 5,000 USD per month being porked in Singapore and that is creating quite a bit of noise in the CJ freelance community.
I thought I would report this as a fun anecdote. There will be new batches of Indo's in Sing soon!
Cheers, and happy shagging!
[QUOTE=Jakboy]Would anyone know where I might be able to get toys (say a little vibrator) in Jakarta?[/QUOTE]I think I've seen quite a few stalls in WTC Mangga Dua and Mangga Dua Square that sell those things. They also carry viagra among others.
I bought a pair of binoculars from a store in Mal Ambasador which is close to Le Meridien Hotel. That store carried all kinds of sex related stuff and the young ladies there unabashedly showed me penis shaped vibrators, pumps among others. Don't ask me the price because I didn't bother.
Anyway, I know that store is located in the second floor in the walkway that connects Ambasador to ITC (not sure what that means). It's not hard to miss as they got lots of stuff that gadget freaks like me love to look at.
Good point Mandiri, over the last 15 months I know of several Blok M girls that are going to Singapore for stints, usually 6 months and mainly working in Geylang. All are aware of of it. Also 5-6 I know have recently made the move to Bali, they see it as a better place to ply their trade in terms of lifestyle and business. Time will tell.
[quote=jakboy]would anyone know where i might be able to get toys (say a little vibrator) in jakarta?[/quote]
if you go to the kota area in the evening, along jalan gajah mada will be dozens of stalls selling (fake?) viagra and other pills. they also sell sex-toys.
otherwise look for small shops that are rep001tered all over jakarta selling "pil biru" (=blue pills=viagra).
[QUOTE=Fishfly]Thanks Alvinyanto.
It was for two nights, but if I wanted to pay more it is up to me. Not what the rest of the market can pay.
I do respect the "normal" prices that are reported.[/QUOTE]
I second Knight1001´s remarks. It is not about what the rest of the market can pay, it is about spoiling the market (what you didn´t, btw), especially for newbies. Senior members will know when absurd prices are asked and how to cope with that.
[QUOTE=Mandiri]
We have a short chat and she brags about the 8,000 SING (more or less 5,000USD) she made while in Singapore for about a month of shagging guys. [/QUOTE]
If she worked in the Geylang district she must have had an average of 7 mongers each day. If she worked at OT, even less mongers each day. So it is possible and no wonder that you might bump into a familiar face.
Flying in from Singapore I have met, more than once, a working girl from blok M in the same plan I was in.
[QUOTE=Mandiri]There will be new batches of Indo's in Sing soon![/QUOTE]
This is actually nothing new. For example, I posted a pic of an indo girl a few months ago who has been doing the singapore circuit for a while now. She works Bats, CJ's, and 30 when she's in Jakarta. She tells me she has sex with about 20 men a day when she's in Singapore and that it results in very good money. She owns her own car and her own house in Jakarta now. She's been doing it for 3 years.
Most of the CJ's girls already know about the possibilities of Singapore. It takes the most hard core and brave girls to actually make the jump and go there though. God knows the Thai girls in Bangkok know about Singapore! LOL!
Singapore isn't the place I worry about though because they come back from there. It's when they go to Japan that I don't like. Many times they go there and don't ever return. There was a strong Japanese trade taking our indo girls a few years ago, but I don't think it's as rampant anymore. They would offer the girls a one year "contract", but you'd never see the girls come back. One example I knew of was where the Japanese pimps had an indo girl named Hanna working as a mama san recruiting the girls. She was actually fairly young as well. She used to go to the different bars and discos offering the girls this chance of a lifetime to make big money. I haven't seen her around for a while, but I know at least 10 different girls she recruited back then and I haven't seen a single one again since they left.
For the last three years, I've been a regular customer at both Kartika Spa and Berlian Spa, side by side on a side alley off of Jalan Hayam Wuruk.
There's actually three MPs in this alley, the third one named the Royal Mas. To the best of my knowledge, this place has never had a post written about it, and until two weeks ago I had never gone inside it.
Out of curiosity I walked in one afternoon to take a look. The inside bar is smaller and more dingy (if that is possible) than Kartika and Berlian. The mamasan immediately called for all 12 of the girls on duty to walk up and shake my hand. The first several girls were all ugly, fat or over 35 years old (or a combination of all three!). I was ready to walk out when a decent-looking slender 20-year-old came up and shook my hand with a confident smile on her face, so I decided to go upstairs with her.
Her name was Dian, comes from a Jakarta suburb, said she had been working there for just over a year, day shift only. Turns out that Royal Mas offers a soapy body-to-body massage, similar to Kartika but not as good. So she gave me the body-to-body massage, then a decent FS session.
Would I return? and would I recommend? Probably not. There was nothing wrong with my session, but it was just ok, nothing special, neither GFE nor PSE. Dian was neither good-looking nor ugly. Her service level was that of a 30-year professional who's worked at one these places for 10 years, not a fresh and enthusiastic 20-year-old.
Recently I posted about a 20-year-old girl named Ayu at Maribaya Spa (Hotel Melawai 6th floor), who was just great, very enthusiastic and energetic. Unfortunately, Dian at Royal Mas shares nothing in common with Ayu except the age.
Another reason to not go to Royal Mas is the fact that it's right next to Kartika and Berlian - if you've gotten that far, you might as well keep walking another few meters to either of these places instead of stopping at Royal Mas.
So the other day I had a date, who I was supposed to meet at the Sahid. It was about 11pm, when she didn't turn up for an hour, I got chatting with the desk clerk. He asked me how come I was waiting and I said that my freind was not landing up. His prompt reply was "thats no problem" I have a friend. 10 mts later a knock on the door. And this guy walks in with 3 average (5-6) but young girls. Short time 400k.
Not anything great, but convenient in a fix.
Anyway. Off to ambassador mall tomorrow.
[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]For the last three years, I've been a regular customer at both Kartika Spa and Berlian Spa, side by side on a side alley off of Jalan Hayam Wuruk.
There's actually three MPs in this alley, the third one named the Royal Mas. To the best of my knowledge, this place has never had a post written about it, and until two weeks ago I had never gone inside it.
Out of curiosity I walked in one afternoon to take a look. The inside bar is smaller and more dingy (if that is possible) than Kartika and Berlian. The mamasan immediately called for all 12 of the girls on duty to walk up and shake my hand. The first several girls were all ugly, fat or over 35 years old (or a combination of all three!). I was ready to walk out when a decent-looking slender 20-year-old came up and shook my hand with a confident smile on her face, so I decided to go upstairs with her.
Her name was Dian, comes from a Jakarta suburb, said she had been working there for just over a year, day shift only. Turns out that Royal Mas offers a soapy body-to-body massage, similar to Kartika but not as good. So she gave me the body-to-body massage, then a decent FS session.
Would I return? and would I recommend? Probably not. There was nothing wrong with my session, but it was just ok, nothing special, neither GFE nor PSE. Dian was neither good-looking nor ugly. Her service level was that of a 30-year professional who's worked at one these places for 10 years, not a fresh and enthusiastic 20-year-old.
Recently I posted about a 20-year-old girl named Ayu at Maribaya Spa (Hotel Melawai 6th floor), who was just great, very enthusiastic and energetic. Unfortunately, Dian at Royal Mas shares nothing in common with Ayu except the age.
Another reason to not go to Royal Mas is the fact that it's right next to Kartika and Berlian - if you've gotten that far, you might as well keep walking another few meters to either of these places instead of stopping at Royal Mas.[/QUOTE]I'm with you, another fan of Kartika, however I have mentioned this in the past but never received a reply. Apart from Kartika and Berlian I believe there are several other MPs in the lanes behind these spa's closer to the Stadium Nightclub. The names are Hawai Massage, Melinda massage, Tin Tin Massage and Maharaja Massage. Have you ever tried these? I would be very interested in anyones comments.
[QUOTE=Smoothy]This is actually nothing new. For example, I posted a pic of an indo girl a few months ago who has been doing the singapore circuit for a while now. She works Bats, CJ's, and 30 when she's in Jakarta. She tells me she has sex with about 20 men a day when she's in Singapore and that it results in very good money. She owns her own car and her own house in Jakarta now. She's been doing it for 3 years.
seen a single one again since they left.[/QUOTE]20 guys a day ? Wow, that looks like a lot. I would think that as a freelancer once you've seen max 4-5 cocks you are done for the day. By that, I mean it must be psychologically draining for a freelance gal (and any other gla for that matter) to have more 4-5 cocks per day, no!
Anyways, it is what it is.
20 guys per day seems a little exaggerated, I can't believe that. Unless she partakes in gangbang activities, it would mean for a shift of 10 hours 2 guys per hour. In the MP of a Chinese friend, who I know close enough to also know her accounting books, some girls start at 10 am and finish at 10 pm doing around 12 to 15 guys per day. But that is a very well run operation and the girls work very hard.
Btw back in the early nineties there were already Indo girls in Singapore, the circuit has been around for quite sometime. If you're in one of the five star bars and suspect some mileage on the girl it's always a good question to ask if she 'knows' Singapore, just as to see how hardcore she is.
[QUOTE=Joel Goodsen]20 guys per day seems a little exaggerated, I can't believe that. [/QUOTE]
The last time I visited Geylang in Singapore, I went there just after work and the guy quoted me 80 sing dollars for 15 minutes with a girl. There was one girl there who stood out from the others and I selected her. We went to her little room in the back which was small but fairly nice with her pictures all over the walls so I assumed she was the only one using it. As we walked in, I noticed she put a little check mark on a piece of paper by the door. It was the 13th check mark. So I asked her if I was the 13th guy she'd been with that day. She said yes, I was the 13th that day but the reason for that is it was a slow day due to the rain. LOL! I was out of that room within 15 minutes having showered, gotten a bj and sex. The girl knew her business to get me off that quickly!
I believe 20 guys a day. The girls in Amsterdam do just as many.
[QUOTE=Panya]I have always wondered about the results that you can get from these sites. I had signed up for Adult Friend Finder, but never went all the way to pay the fees to become a full-time member.[/QUOTE]What's the score with AFF? I mean they're professionals, right? This might sound incredibly naive but somehow the idea that there really are so many Indonesian nymphomaniacs who just want to have big white c*cks shoved up their a$$es for free seems a little doubtful. Has anyone had any experience with that site?
I would recommend Love Happens however, they are for the most part regular girls and with a little bit of time and patience you can meet up with some great girls, I've had three or four by that route and it's been very rewarding.
Ambassador mall rules. Went up to the 2nd floor passageway and there it was. They have serious variety of sex toys. And a sweet girl there too (I told her I would let her use my new toy if she would give me a discount. She didn't bite). Notably also tried to sell me Vitamin V and cialis. And also some weird thing in abottle (with Chinese writing). My Indonesian is not lancar enough. But she said that you mix it in water and give it to the girl. And 10 minutes later something happens. I was fearful and didn't think about it. But am wondering now. Anyone has a clue?
Thanks everyone. This is truly a convenient discovery.
[QUOTE=Jakboy]Ambassador mall rules. Went up to the 2nd floor passageway and there it was. They have serious variety of sex toys. And a sweet girl there too (I told her I would let her use my new toy if she would give me a discount. She didn't bite). Notably also tried to sell me Vitamin V and cialis. [/QUOTE]
How could I forget that! You´re right! The owner is a Menadonese guy and he has this small shops at both ends of the passageway to and from ITC Kuningan. However I have my doubts about the quality of the Cialis they sell. I bought 4 pills once and none of them served me :(
DORMAN
Nice to see you back! I mentioned the quality of those vitamin C pills in that different Forum. How are you progressing with the stray-pussies-to-be?
[QUOTE=Dorman]What's the score with AFF? I mean they're professionals, right? This might sound incredibly naive but somehow the idea that there really are so many Indonesian nymphomaniacs who just want to have big white c*cks shoved up their a$$es for free seems a little doubtful. Has anyone had any experience with that site?
I would recommend Love Happens however, they are for the most part regular girls and with a little bit of time and patience you can meet up with some great girls, I've had three or four by that route and it's been very rewarding.[/QUOTE]I've never tried Love Happens, but from what you say it sounds very much like AFF. There are very very few professionals on AFF and those that do trade there are pretty obvious. The codeword is "generous": those looking for "generous" guys are usually looking to be fucked for cash.
Much has been written on this site about "freebies". Well most girls on AFF are freebies in the sense that they are not going to ask you for a fee. But they're mostly hoping for a little material gain out of the relationship. It could be just taxi money, or it's that they're hoping to go to the kind of places (discos, restaurants, bars etc etc) that they couldn't possibly afford themselves. You know the story. Ranges from out and out gold diggers to simple office girls looking for some fun. They want some "jalan jalan" fun and they want to fucked by someone exotic who doesn't treat them like shit.
I've fucked so many sweet fucklets through AFF and most are looking for something like this. And some are hoping for the man of their dreams to appear. There's a sub-culture of girls in Jakarta who only ever fuck bules because they've got the cash, the status and because "they know how to treat a lady". Many have told me how they got sick of fucking Indon guys because the Indons act like spoilt sultans and know nothing about how to pleasure a woman (stick it in and cum.).
They also like bules because they have no family connections that start gossip about their fucking around. With Indon guys, the story usually gets out, their parents hear about it, and they're in the shit. With bules you can be anonymous. And well fed and well fucked.
[QUOTE=Mangga]With bules you can be anonymous...[/QUOTE]
Actually, any indonesian girl seen with a bule is normally immediately branded as a girl of ill repute. I doubt being anonymous has much to do with it unless you are having these girls go directly to your hotel room without going out in public with them.
[QUOTE=Smoothy] unless you are having these girls go directly to your hotel room without going out in public with them.[/QUOTE]
Usually thats exactly my way, also last weekend in JKT.
Several messages in the taxi from the airport, some final txt after check-in with room number and the weekend is going. Some money change hands in the room, the girl comes and leaves alone.
For dinner and some drinks I prefer to go alone, same as for breakfast.
It's fine with the ladies, at least for the girls I am with.
Cheers!
[QUOTE=Mangga]I've never tried Love Happens, but from what you say it sounds very much like AFF. There are very very be fucked for cash.
Much has been written on this site about "freebies". Well most girls on AFF are freebies in the sense that they are not going to ask you for a fee. But they're mostly hoping for a little material gain out of the relationship. It could be just taxi money, or it's that they're hoping to go to the kind of places (discos, restaurants, bars etc etc) that they couldn't possibly afford themselves. You know the story....ranges from out and out gold diggers to simple office girls looking for some fun. They want some "jalan jalan" fun and they want to fucked by someone exotic who doesn't treat them like shit.
I've fucked so many sweet fucklets through AFF and most are looking for something like this. And some are hoping for the man of their dreams to appear. There's a sub-culture of girls in Jakarta who only ever fuck bules because they've got the cash, the status and because "they know how to treat a lady". Many have told me how they got sick of fucking Indon guys because the Indons act like spoilt sultans and know nothing about how to pleasure a woman (stick it in and cum...).
They also like bules because they have no family connections that start gossip about their fucking around. With Indon guys, the story usually gets out, their parents hear about it, and they're in the shit. With bules you can be anonymous...and well fed and well fucked.[/QUOTE]Mangga,
Question for you regarding AFF:
Apart from the chicks with the "generous" passcode, are the other ones almost guaranteed fucks or what? Certainly the pictures are pretty graphic so the impression I have is that they are really looking for a shag hence it's almost guaranteed fuck.
Am I correct or wrong?
Thanks,
[QUOTE=Menteng]How are you progressing with the stray-pussies-to-be?[/QUOTE]Not much to report on that front, I'm involved with one or two ladies I met on the 'net (see below) and given that my time is limited I have to stick to the certainties and as you know those other ladies are far from that (at least the ones I am interested in). Maybe see you again when you're back in town.
[QUOTE=Mandiri]Mangga,
Question for you regarding AFF:
Apart from the chicks with the "generous" passcode, are the other ones almost guaranteed fucks or what? Certainly the pictures are pretty graphic so the impression I have is that they are really looking for a shag hence it's almost guaranteed fuck.
Am I correct or wrong?
Thanks,[/QUOTE]
Mandiri,
It all depends.... You need to read each girl's profile and read between the lines.
Some girls are are just total fuck bunnies who will say as much in their profiles - 100% certainty of a fuck. I've had plenty of fucklets who will come to your door after one or two email/text exchanges. You fuck them stupid, they leave and you never see them again.
At the other extreme are those looking for steady boyfriends or even husbands and will only fuck one guy after a lot of picking and choosing. You can usually tell from their profile. I've made contact with one or two like that, but never got beyond a few text exchanges because it was clear we weren't looking for the same thing.
Then there are the hundreds in between that are looking for some combination of sexual frolics, a good time/good night out and a connection or relationship of some kind. The chances of a fuck with the girlies in this category is pretty close to 100%, but they may take a bit of time and effort to woo. But not a lot.... I can't think of many that I haven't fucked in the first meeting. The wooing usually only has to happen by email and/or text.
With girlies like this it pretty much up to you what happens next. I've had plenty of sweeties who I've fucked a few times, then decided to end it at that. Others have been continuing friendships/fuckships that have lasted a long time. I even seriously considered tying the knot with one, and met her family etc...until sanity prevailed. I've really struck gold recently, because I hooked up with a girl who not only fucked me but has continued to pass on horny sex bunnies to me who want to bedded by a bule. But that only happened after three years of playing on the site.
Which brings me to the final, and critical, point.....time. AFF takes time. It's not like going to Blok M or Kota, drooling over some 18 year old, waving to her and taking her away to fuck. The ratio of guys to girls on AFF must 10 to 1 at best. That means that a young attractive fucklet with photos of herself with legs spread sucking some bule's cock is going to get about a million messages a day.
You have to send a lot of messages and put some effort in. Lots of girls tell me they get so bored with fat bules who send messages like "Hi, wanna meet for a good time?". They delete a hundred a day like that.
So AFF is good for resident bules or visitors who do their homework before they come. If your time is limited, or you just can't be bothered with wooing, go to Blok M or Kota and you'll get what you want. And it could even be cheaper than a "freebie" in the long run. Ya pays ya money and ya takes ya choice....
And you have to be a paying member of AFF, because the girls sure won't be. The girls won't come to you, you have to seek them out.
[QUOTE=Mandiri]Mangga,
Question for you regarding AFF:
Apart from the chicks with the "generous" passcode, are the other ones almost guaranteed fucks or what? Certainly the pictures are pretty graphic so the impression I have is that they are really looking for a shag hence it's almost guaranteed fuck.
Am I correct or wrong?
Thanks,[/QUOTE]
Sorry if the preceding essay was too long. To cut a long story short - if you manage to get a AFF girlie to meet you somewhere, you've almost got her in bed. If you get her across the threshold of your apartment or hotel make sure you've got condoms in the bedside drawer....
[QUOTE=Rainman 2108]It's not a KTV but just dance club.
The rich sit and drink with the girls in Bikini.... Music very loud though....
Place is somewhere in Permata Hijia...
Cheers[/QUOTE]Raiman,
Pls elborate further if you don't mind. Sounds like my kinda place, or if you could provide tel no of the club would be helpful.
[QUOTE=Mangga]Sorry if the preceding essay was too long. To cut a long story short - if you manage to get a AFF girlie to meet you somewhere, you've almost got her in bed. If you get her across the threshold of your apartment or hotel make sure you've got condoms in the bedside drawer....[/QUOTE]Thanks a lot Mangga ! Very useful info. There's so many good free dating sites out there, I am not sure I want to pay for the AFF services (about 60USD for 3 months it seems). Anyway, good to know this option.
Cheers !
Seems to be "the rich executive club" in permata hijau. Just open.
High shag probabilities
It all depends.... You need to read each girl's profile and read between the lines.
Then there are the hundreds in between that are looking for some combination of sexual frolics, a good time/good night out and a connection or relationship of some kind. The chances of a fuck with the girlies in this category is pretty close to 100%, but they may take a bit of time and effort to woo. But not a lot.... I can't think of many that I haven't fucked in the first meeting. The wooing usually only has to happen by email and/or text.
You have to send a lot of messages and put some effort in. Lots of girls tell me they get so bored with fat bules who send messages like "Hi, wanna meet for a good time?". They delete a hundred a day like that.
Mangga
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I have done the BATS, Tiga-puloh, CJ's circuit as well as D's and MyBar, plus Maribaya and Kartika/Berlian - all many times. But for me, AFF is a better experience. Nothing wrong with pulling in the pay-for-play places, but there are literally dozens of women available on AFF for virtually any age-group.
Mangga obviously has an advanced degree in AFF-shagging. The one thing that I can add to his already excellent report is to think of AFF like a pick-up bar in North America. Everyone knows what is going on there - the women and the men are hoping to meet that special someone who will rock their world.
But you still have to play the game - be polite, show interest, make conversation. On AFF, you do that on email for the most part. But just like in the pick-up bar, if your opening line is "Hey hot-stuff, wanna fuck?", then you won't do very well.
Many AFF ladies have told me that 80-90% of the guys who write to them are obviously assholes. Just be decent and nice, and you will stand out - and the benefits are absolutely wonderful.
Thanks for a great tutorial, Mangga.
[QUOTE=Jakboy]Ambassador mall rules. Went up to the 2nd floor passageway and there it was. They have serious variety of sex toys. And a sweet girl there too (I told her I would let her use my new toy if she would give me a discount. She didn't bite). Notably also tried to sell me Vitamin V and cialis. And also some weird thing in abottle (with Chinese writing). My Indonesian is not lancar enough. But she said that you mix it in water and give it to the girl. And 10 minutes later something happens. I was fearful and didn't think about it. But am wondering now. Anyone has a clue?
Thanks everyone. This is truly a convenient discovery.[/QUOTE]I think the thing you mix in a drink is some sort of aphrodisiac for ladies. 10 minutes later, they become wet and horny with no stimuli. Not really worth buying as indo ladies quickly get horny with just a bit of stimuli almost anywhere on the body and it seems most prefer their breasts fondled. The sweet girl may be the same one that offered me lots of sex toys and even agreed to go out if I bought more stuff.
[QUOTE=Mangga]Sorry if the preceding essay was too long. To cut a long story short - if you manage to get a AFF girlie to meet you somewhere, you've almost got her in bed. If you get her across the threshold of your apartment or hotel make sure you've got condoms in the bedside drawer....[/QUOTE]It could not have been written better. I totaly agree with this and the previous mail, written by Mangga.
I joined this site, about 2 months ago. In this time, I met about 12 women. Still about 6 phone numbers on my moblie, from girls which I didn't meet yet. But still working on it, hehehe.
You realy gotta work for it. The more patient and polite you are the better. The first 2-3 mails I exchange with the girls, I don't mentioned anything about sex, or asking for their phone number. I wait till they give their numbers by themself. If they do so, according to my experience, you are in. I haven't paid a girl anything yet. I asked about 4 of them if I can take care of the "taxi". They furiously refused.
And most of the time, you have to write to the girl first. Just a few will contact you, by themself. I put a pic of mine there. A face pic. Every girl tells me, that that was the plus point. Most of the guys put a dick pic in. Not sure about their success rate. But I guess the bigger, the better, hehehe. Of course you can also create a profile without any pic
One funny thing happened to me. Seen a girl on cam, showing off her huge tits. Her face was not visible. And no pic in her profile. Wrote her a mail. She answers, knowing my name, telling me that she is a friend of mine. I keep asking her who she is, she wouldn't tell. :.)
AFF is somehow funny. If you wanna be anonymous on there, just watch out a bit.
Just a few words, without wanting to "show my success". (Sure you guys know what I mean)
Regards, Sabbath
Hi Ebo, hehehehe
[QUOTE=Mandiri]A couple of weeks I was at Changi airport and I bumped into a pro who used to hang out almost every night at CJ's. Though we have not shagged, she recognizes me -- and so do I-- and we say Hi to each other. She tells me that she's been working (ie freelancing) here in Singapore for a while.
Last Friday, I bump into her at CJ's ! We have a short chat and she brags about the 8,000 SING (more or less 5,000USD) she made while in Singapore for about a month of shagging guys. Her number looks a bit on the high side but hey whatever, that's not the point.
I then go and chat with another freelancer who recently took my fancy (though we have not yet shagged, I just chit chat with her while at CJ's) and she is telling me she wants to go to Singapore every once in a while spend a few weeks, come back to JKT, then back to Singapore etc. She then asks me about typical prices to rent a place or cheap hotels in Singapore.
Looks to me like the first chick aforementioned is spreading the news at CJ''s that it is possible to make 5,000 USD per month being porked in Singapore and that is creating quite a bit of noise in the CJ freelance community.
I thought I would report this as a fun anecdote. There will be new batches of Indo's in Sing soon!
Cheers, and happy shagging![/QUOTE]
Similar to what I posted about a week prior. In that case, Rani, asked me for S200 and was pretty adamant about it (despite my chuckle). She also mentioned her rented room cost S50 per day. So if we assume she works OT every day of the week, and also manages to snag 2 customers per night, that's still under S5000 not counting food/phone/ or even the $12 glass of juice in the bar.
Unless the girl is stunning, I can't see a steady hit rate of 2 per night, but I could be wrong. From observation, there are just too many girls and not enough guys in OT.
EDIT: After catching up and seeing that others already opined on this, I can understand larger volumes at Geylang, but not OT. The time it takes hooking up with a bule who agrees to your price and then takes you back to some hotel, then get back to repeat the process would take too long, especially on weeknights when most bules need to get to work in the mornings.
[QUOTE=Bebek]I'm with you, another fan of Kartika, however I have mentioned this in the past but never received a reply. Apart from Kartika and Berlian I believe there are several other MPs in the lanes behind these spa's closer to the Stadium Nightclub. The names are Hawai Massage, Melinda massage, Tin Tin Massage and Maharaja Massage. Have you ever tried these? I would be very interested in anyones comments.[/QUOTE]
I actually spent parts of two afternoons recently wandering around the side alleys between Kartika/Berlian and Stadium.
The first afternoon it was around 5 p.m., however I had just finished a nice session with Ina at Berlian, so I wasn't interested in another session, just doing some research. Most of the MPs on these side streets are not worth the time to walk there, as the girls are often over 35, fat and ugly. Many of them have a front room where the girls' photos are displayed on a desk, but in each of those cases only around 10 girls are on duty, even though there might be photos of 40 - 50 girls on the desk. Most times, the girls were lounging on sofas in the same room, so there wasn't much point in looking at the photos, since the girls don't look much like their photo anyway.
I did walk into the Maharadjah and found an attractive early-20s girl there, so I asked her for her name (Ria) and filed it away in my brain for future use. But there wasn't much else worth looking at.
A week later, I went back to the Maharadjah around 3 p.m. to hook up with Ria. She was not working that day (time of the month?), so I wandered in and out of some of the other MPs - Tin-Tin, Meksiko, etc. but there were very few girls on duty, and most were over 35 - maybe it was too early in the afternoon? That's the day that I ended up having the session with Dian at the Royal Mas.
One somewhat-scarey moment: during my second walk-around, after stopping at the Maharadjah, I walked into an MP named "Ibu Linda." Again, you walk through the door and enter a room that is not a bar, just a room with two Chinese guys behind the desk on the left (where the girls' photos are) and around 8 girls on duty, sitting on sofas on the right. Again, most of the girls were over the hill, but there was one girl on duty who was fairly attractive and who looked to be around 23 years old.
I asked about her and one of the Chinese guys pointed to her picture on the desk, then said "yes, very nice girl, you like?" and motioned for her to stand up and come over. But the girl had this scared look on her face, certainly didn't seem excited about the prospect of being with me, so I said "No thanks, that's ok" and started walking out the door. The Chinese guy got angry and started yelling at me, then he came from behind the desk and started walking after me, looking as if he might hit me. Needless to say, I walked quickly out the door, and won't be back.
In retrospect, he probably wasn't going to hit me, but he sure looked pissed, and you never know what might happen. And this was a "first" for me at a Jakarta MP; up until then I had never been hassled if I had decided to walk out of an MP without picking a girl.
In summary, IMHO there isn't much available in the MPs in the other alleys near Kartika/Berlian, although a hidden gem can always be discovered. But I feel that one would be better off to go to Kartika, or else some of the PanJay MPs (Sari Ayu, MTR) or Hotel Travel, etc. And I still think that Maribaya Spa (Hotel Melawai 6th floor) in Blok M has the highest percentage of decent-looking girls of any MP in Jakarta.
[QUOTE=Smoothy]Actually, any indonesian girl seen with a bule is normally immediately branded as a girl of ill repute. I doubt being anonymous has much to do with it unless you are having these girls go directly to your hotel room without going out in public with them.[/QUOTE]
I beg to differ Smoothy. In my experience there are many Indon girlies who like fucking bules because they aren't part of their family and local community networks and so can't spread gossip about them.
Yes you're right that an Indonesian girl and bule guy together always attract attention and assumptions on the street or wherever (we've all experienced that...) But if she lives in Tangerang or Bekasi or somewhere and you're out together in Thamrin it doesn't really matter.
But wherever she goes with a local guy, he or his mates are going to brag about it to someone and then the news is out....bad girl! So many girlies still live with their parents (even in their 30s) and they have the eyes of the whole RT (neighbourhood) on them. I've been to many homes of average lower middle class families and you can't fart without some neighbour hearing you. Bules are a way to escape all that for a night or two.
All said in a spirit of scientific inquiry. Applied Sociology 101.
I also add these comments because there are some mongers (not meaning you Smoothy) who look down on the very girlies they love to fuck. Most girls who are "bule gila" (crazy on westerners) are just looking for a break from their very restricted lives....and maybe find the man of their dreams in the process. There's the tank top and miniskirt brigade who might as well have a sign across their tits saying "fuck me". But there are also so many sweet and demure office girls who look as though they've barely held hands with a guy. But when you get them behind closed doors, your cock slips in their mouth, they give you an expert blow-job and they break out like porn stars. And I'm very glad to help them...big grin...
[QUOTE=Mangga]Sorry if the preceding essay was too long. To cut a long story short - if you manage to get a AFF girlie to meet you somewhere, you've almost got her in bed. If you get her across the threshold of your apartment or hotel make sure you've got condoms in the bedside drawer....[/QUOTE]Mangga and others,
Any experience with AFF in Singapore and Kuala Lumpur ? Is it the same experience/success ratio/scenario's per Dr Mangga's account of AFF Indo, or is it different ?
Cheers
Read with a wry sense of amusement on the issues of Singapore this week. Have been running into the CJ's crowd in Singapore recently and they shack up 4 to a room keep the costs as low as possible fly in on Tiger Airways or other budget airlines and try and score 200 SGD per night. Sometimes in OT they are luckier and hit the jackpot and then again not but overall the numbers mentioned are on the high side as we forget the amount of shopping they like to do !
There is a clique led by Jenny - Monica and Arin who now have given up the pretence of day jobs in Jakarta and head off regularly to Singapore to ply their trade. One argument is that if they are continuously seen in CJ's then they see that their market value diminishes - a smart answer that one !
As for the anonymous ladies am in total agreement - there are often a lot of posts here whereby some writers seem to openly scorn the ones who provide them with entertainment. The economics you have hit on the head and also the dynamics - why go out with someone from the "hood" who will simply bang you for free or at least much cheaper than the nice bule will pay - then brag to all his mates and leave you high and dry once the deed is done. They are looking for escapism as much as we are in the opposite direction.
Those who have recognised this and there are many who write along those lines are having a much better time than those who believe that paying low is their prerogative as the Indonesians are a lesser life form.
Having said that please continue to do so because this means that those who do invest a little time and effort are the recipients as mentioned of their ability to do all and sundry in the short or long time that they are disappearing beneath the sheets in your hotel room !
Happy Weekending to all
I know this has been touched upon previously, yes I did do a search. I really screwed up big time, and cashed in a bunch of miles and have my Cathay Pacific tickets in hand. As an afterthought, I thought I´d check when Ramadan falls this year. It starts the day I leave Peru and ends a few days after I leave Jakarta. So there is no way I can be in Jakarta without Ramadan even changing around my itinerary and stops in other countries. Should I pay the penalties hope that I can still find seats and change my ticket, (although since I have to be in Calif. the weekend of Oct. 12 on my way back to Lima this possibility would necesitate a major trip re-working), or with the help of forum members and JAD can I still really enjoy myself during my 10 days in Jakarta during the month of fasting?
You can still have fun during Ramadan, but not as much. During Ramadan, the girls are desperate for money so home delivery is easier to find. That being said, I now try to make it a practice to be out of Indonesia the entire month of Ramadan. The negatives outweigh the positives in my opinion.
That´s the feeling I got when reading the other posts regarding this situation. But is it worth the hassle of canceling the trip? I only need one girl a day since I´m not a stud like Menteng or the Mighty Spearsman. I also prefer action in my hotel to going to discos, etc., although it would be nice to see some night time action.
No problem getting one girl a day or even two or three even during Ramadan. The only days that can get problematic are the Idul Fitri (end of Ramadan) because of the traffic jams, the city comes to a standstill. There are more girls in shopping malls during Ramadan than during the rest of the year because some of the pros fall back on the shopping malls, their MPs being closed. I now avoid Ramadan but my second JKT trip was during Ramadan. I had no problem finding girls, what pissed me off was that Stadium disco (with its Xstasy) were not available. You will, of course, miss the night spots apart from Bats and CJ's, as well as the brothels where you have as much girls at your disposal than a Sultan ever had, but, as you say, who needs that?
[QUOTE=Smoothy]During Ramadan, the girls are desperate for money so home delivery is easier to find. [/QUOTE]True for freelances, however some touts (the "papasans" around hotels) know girls are not in such big supply as in normal times and they quote higher prices.
Only one tenth of what's there is available during Ramadan, but even one tenth of JKT is a great deal!
Of course, if it's a one-off trip to JKT, never or unlikely to be repeated, I would pospone. It would be such a pity to have known JKT only in its Ramadan version!
[QUOTE=Tamurlane26]Read with a wry sense of amusement on the issues of Singapore this week. Have been running into the CJ's crowd in Singapore recently and they shack up 4 to a room keep the costs as low as possible fly in on Tiger Airways or other budget airlines and try and score 200 SGD per night. Sometimes in OT they are luckier and hit the jackpot and then again not but overall the numbers mentioned are on the high side as we forget the amount of shopping they like to do !
There is a clique led by Jenny - Monica and Arin who now have given up the pretence of day jobs in Jakarta and head off regularly to Singapore to ply their trade. One argument is that if they are continuously seen in CJ's then they see that their market value diminishes - a smart answer that one !
Happy Weekending to all[/QUOTE]Funny that you mention this Arin chick: the one with the massive boobs, pretty short, who claimed to work in a costmetics corner in a mall in JKT, huh ?! I see her often at Insomnia in Chijmes. It's really a small world.
hi everyone. quick, first time, 4-day trip and here is my report.
thailand is seeing less and less of me these days. started out in bangkok and had to make a connection in singapore. air asia and then jet star from sin. downside of this method, you are not able to use the xfer desk at sin. you must clear immigration and customs and go through landside check in. give your self a 3-hour layover to do all of this… upside, $300 roundtrip tickets all in, bought online about 3 weeks before travel.
arrival
i kind of felt the same way as in the past on arrival in the dominican republic and in the philippines. it was “uh-oh, oh-no” all the way from the gate at the airport and thru the taxi ride into the city. not an open arms feeling like either of bkks airports. you must buy a visa on arrival for those that have that option. you will see this booth about halfway from gate to immigration. i saw it on the right hand side of the long walkway from the gates to immigration. $10 for 7 days and $25 i believe for 30 days. headed straight for kaha and then the blue bird counter after customs. i have learned in the past, “you have to go with a name you can quickly trust”. there will be other counters but deal with these guys on your first trip. get a hotel in the $400,000 range and above if you can afford it. even if it stretches you, get that range of hotel. hotel comfort is important to me and while my hotel was good, my thank you letter would read like this… oasis amir, “i had a great stay at your hotel and you made my trip great in every way… except for the roaches…”. a little fumigation would turn that into a really good hotel. $340,000 with breakfast at the oasis amir from kaha. i skipped breakfast… however cannot really complain, well ok, just a little. centrally located for…… mall hunting!
atrium mall
ok, here is my take on atrium mall. there are not that many on the game at atrium to begin with, but enough… 1-5pm is definitely prime time. you can get lucky after that time but less likely before. i find girls will sometimes hang over the railing by the circle over the amusement rides but i did not find many doing that. security will definitely post up over by that circle so i started to avoid that circle. maybe that is why the girls seemed to be less over there. they will also be anywhere along the railing throughout the mall. security was on to my shenanigans pretty quickly but left me alone. a hot spot is the little “bridge” that has seating for various coffee shops on different levels in the mall. it is right in the middle of the mall on every floor except the main floor of course. the girls/women sitting there are a 75% probability on the game. you can pull shop attendants and the department store cuties in atrium but i always feel funny about talking to chix at their jobs. shop girls are more time necessary than i had to spare but worthwhile if you are there for 1 week or more, go for it.
the mo seems to be heavy eye contact. that is, stare hard at anything you fancy and read the returning signals. then try to follow her a little or if stationary start subtly gesturing that you want to sit down or start off to the hotel. then, out into a cab or walk to the oasis hotel, oasis apartments or atrium hotel. simple as that (walk separately if necessary). the key is eye contact and being quick on your feet. it is not easy but it definitely is not hard… i snagged a sweet 20 year old dark skinned honey with no children and had a really good time with her. lets just say i never knew the salad course would last so long and i now find myself asking ladies if they like to do “cat bath”. wow, she was a little tiger. not an ounce of body fat. sent her into spasms with my tongue and it was one of the best sessions ever, $220,000 and taxi.
girls will be hanging out on the lane between the atrium/citibank entrance and the oasis amir. from about dusk to 10p or so (mall closes at 9). there will only be about 3-10 ladies in total but worth a look. quality ranged (both in mall and out on lane) from “absolutely not” (most) to “wow she is really cute” (anomaly). i took a cutie from the lane with the best tits ever. i was looking around her armpits and under her breast for the scar. a very full b or early c that just looked too good to be true. decently cute $200,000 plus taxi. only ok session though. prices for these ladies should range from $150,000 to $280,000 st tops for the anomaly category. i don’t really feel an overnight option is normal. seems most are on the st game. i also pulled another girl with no english who was walking on the dirt path next to the amir. we shook our heads and said yes and then up to the room in minutes. she balked when i handed her money after a 2-hour session so there may be freebies to be had i guess. however, she did not hand back the money…
today country
wow, loved this place. yes it’s dark and yes it’s real loud and confusing but there were some cuties in this place and there are so many of them. surreal, i mean one of those moments i live for. few guys from the west get to see something this crazy. speaking of “west” there is a usa western theme to this place, which was hilarious. $20,000 entry, which entitles you to a low level drink. band and dancing girl shows intermittently. some mamasaan will latch on to you and start shoving cuties in your lap. definitely reject the ones that obviously don’t want to be with you. carry a pen flashlight. i made chix agree adamantly to go with me before i committed. had 2 very good sessions on 2 different occasions with 2 very willing cuties. $250,000 before hand and then at least $50,000 to the girl. one girl started crying, “contract, contract” after the deed and tip. i remember she was at the edge of the bed and i was hitting it in the stand up position with her lying back on the bed. her hair kind of sprawled out onto the bed like a pert or maybelline (sp?) commercial. very beautiful, so i gave her a bit more but i knew they were crocodile tears. tip the mommy $20,000 also. one girl in tc had on an authentic “price is right” shirt on. you know the game show with bob barker? that tickled me to death for some reason. where did she get that? i’ll bet she never even had the opportunity to watch that game show on tv. the shirt made her all that more attractive. “the price is right” yeah, i bet. never tried her though.
today country is located in lokasari mall. just get a taxi to lokasari and go towards the pinkish (?) colored hotel. you make a left then a right or something like that after the main gate then the hotel opens up at you. this is a strip type of mall like winding strip malls in the usa so think in those terms and directions will be clearer. lokasari is not a 5-story mall or anything like that. once you are at the pink looking hotel’s entrance, right by the side is the entrance to today country (all of this is still outside without entering any structure as of yet). go up the stairs either outside using the wood stairs or use the inside stairs (2 options) and alight at the 3rd or 4th floor, it will be kind of obvious.
i believe you can take the busway and then a short walk over. rooms are just ok but like i said i don’t think you can beat this place for the pleathora of cuties you will find within for the price. (i have yet to try mtr or hotel travel)
kartika, berlian etc.
took a walk down these lanes and peeked in several of these establishments but i was somewhat appalled at some of the ladies. i mean, who is taking these ladies? there were a few fresh cuties in a few of the establishments but i was hard pressed to make a decision in any of these places. i wanted to try hotel travel and mtr but never found these places because of nightfall. i mean you can probably have a good time here but i did not see the value over tc. maybe i will try them next time out. these establishments are right off of the busway line so you can get the busway almost right there. i think someone mentioned sawah besar as the busway stop. i just look-see’d all of them but some of the girls did not seem real enthused about their jobs or my presence especially in the smaller places. i think i was at the places off of hyam wuruk. i took mangga besar over (i walked believe it or not from mangga dua mall) to hyam wuruk. i think some guys tried to call me into the lane with the other houses while on mangga besar but i kept going for some reason. you will see a bakery maybe “holland” i don’t remember it saying swiss. it is a tall towering bakery with a sign on it from “some country in europe” on the corner or near the corner of mangga besar and hyam wuruk, or was it mangga dua? you know you are in the region when you see that bakery, then start peeking in alleys…
jl industri 9-11
followed the directions to this place. you can get there with the busway, three stops i believe to the north of the central/senen stop where atrium mall is located. it is definitely right behind the sheraton media that i understand is a great hotel and is in a great location for mongering. behind this hotel is jl industri 9-11. the touts were yelling to me before i fully arrived at the entrance to the carpark. that was funny. i did the rounds and because i had a session before checking this place out i was not interested in sessioning. this place had some nice girls for the prices. i only got a quote from the popular one, which has a pretty nice and somewhat trendy interior (for the venue), of $180,000. i assume the rest will be in the same range. there was this one chubby girl there, titties spilling out of her outfit. i mean cute enough to have it be ok to be a bit chubby, that means pretty cute. however she had a bit of an attitude so i passed. i tried to warm her up with some convo while i sat on the comfy couches with her and sipped a bintang. i would have and could have taken her but i have no time for attitudes. the security guard will still pop up and try to show you around even if you take the stairs to the immediate left of the carpark when you walk in. he was annoying but kept his distance. there are about 7 apartments of this type i assume normally with 3-10 chix. they were a bit drained of talent when i got there. i went at about 8 pm and i felt very safe. i would use this as a 1pm to 8 pm option. definitely an option i will partake next trip with batteries recharged!
blok m
the expat hangouts… you have d’s place (which i hear is going to close soon), top gun and my bar. all are good for their respective plusses. pool table and bands in top gun, dance contest and oldies in d’s and straight wall-to-wall people and dancing with full mirror in my bar. all of this livens up around 10 – 11pm if memory serves correctly and thu, fri and sat are the really active nights. i did not get the mo right away. the girls were a bit more standoffish as apposed to being all over you. do not let that throw you off, you should make your move on whatever you are fancying. of course girls who approach you are more likely to really be into you. the downside is the somewhat western attitude of the girls and the fucking rip off cab drivers outside. has the mafia squeezed blue bird out of that venue or something? i started not to like those guys after awhile…
i stopped off at maribaya spa on the 6th floor of the melawai hotel. it was ok there but i got there really late right before closing one night and there was only one passable cutie there. should be much better in the day but never went back.
i pulled the cutest girl of my life and the best fuck of my life (both, arguably) from top gun. holy shit this girl was all that and a bag of trail mix. i never thought you could roll those two qualities into one but she was fucking it! she got on top and i swear there was a battery in her back… wow she really rocked my world and being the last girl i was with before i left the country she was the “stamp of approval” i needed to make this a definite stop in the sea rotation in the future.
girls in comparison
well jakarta does not top bangkok if you will compare the two, as a vacation venue. what it does have are some totally awesome cuties who surprisingly enough will fuck your brains out. i found a couple of real troopers and no one experience was “bad”. looks wise i think they are really cute! i think girl for girl they may have the thais though the stunningly beautiful edge would go to thailand. but how accessible are those stunners in thailand? point to ponder… so i might tool around thailand for a bit but i will definitely be getting jakarta in. i might even try bali now that i have been to jakarta.
food, extras etc.
ate at established places only and the food was really good! if you stick to the eateries in the mall that have chains in various places then you can’t really go wrong. if its trendy looking and clean with several chain locations, go for it! i ate at a trendy place with a nice pineapple shake along with some spicy fried rice and some gyoza in atrium on i think the 3rd floor. right by the escalator going down from the grocery store side of atrium. food of very good quality and really cute tout in front of the restaurant. i ate at these places and at popeye’s in mangga dua. quality same or better than your average popeye’s in the states. asian rain i swear we are related somehow!
mangga dua mall does by the way have dvds of excellent quality for 6,000 rupiah. and there is another shop like that in another mall i came across when walking from mangga dua mall. they gave one free for every 10 and they were 5000 rp each! it is a somewhat well known mall i believe on mangga dua but near hyam wuruk, i forget the name.
take the busway whenever possible. beats the taxi and traffic game, which can be two separate games. the busway runs til 10pm. get a map and study it, after your first ride it is cake.
optimal day
wake up hopefully by 12p, shower shave etc. on to atrium for lunch and possible pick up at the mall or onto kota for some tc, tender (loving) care at today country. out of kota by dusk and back to atrium mall for more food and a possible pick up in mall or out on lane. depending on how that goes, maybe a swing by jl industri for shits and giggles, then back to hotel and then on to blok m for evening takeout. oasis amir being centrally located was perfect for that type of itinerary. however will be investigating the oasis amir apartments or atrium hotel next.
busway busway busway! the only cab you will ever really need following this mo (if you are willing to walk a block or two from time to time) is on the way back from blok m.
practicalities
very third world (imho). i almost left after the first day because of this. it was actually because i overslept that i stayed. from that point on i really decided the trip was definitely getting better with every day and every new venture of mine. you have to tolerate several things from the language barrier to not being able to comfortably “sport” your cutie around. it is not thailand that is for sure. but that is good in a roundabout sort of way! not heavily touristed and you do have many options most which i have not explored. there is still more stuff for me to locate out there. just don’t go looking for any sort of vacation like thailand.
travelfox
[QUOTE=Travel Fox]Just don’t go looking for any sort of vacation like Thailand. [/QUOTE]
That's very true. If I were going somewhere for a 1 or 2 week vacation, I'd take Thailand over Indonesia every time. Indonesia is good for us guys who live here, but it's not anywhere near as convenient for tourists as Thailand. There's actually quite little to do in the day. It used to be that Indonesia was cheap, but not anymore. The prices of everything have gone way up in Indonesia the last 5 years. Especially taxis! You mention to take the busway all the time, but that only takes you so far. For example, you can't take the busway to a place like Kelapa Gading, and to take a taxi there will cost you the equivalent of about 200 baht one way. Thailand is more expensive than it used to be due to the baht being so strong right now. But transportation is still dirt cheap and more convenient in Thailand.
It used to be that you could take a girl home all night in Jakarta for 200,000. That was the going rate and the girls were quite happy with that. Now it's more like 500,000. In that same time frame, the price in Thailand in thai baht really hasn't gone up much. For the guys looking for really cheap action, Angeles City is the way to go these days. It's about 1/2 the price of Jakarta now.
As far as TC, I hate that place but many do like it. I personally find it impossible to enjoy myself in that environment. Sure there are girls there, but there are girls in many other places where it's not pitch black and loud as all heck. Your comment that you have to bring a pen flashlight is spot on. As mentioned, the place is pitch black. I went there once with my brother and he was making out with this chick the mama san brought to him. I yelled in his ear (I had to yell since it's deafening loud in there as well) "don't make out with her yet, you dont even know what she looks like", to which he replied "she feels good! how bad can she be?". I then went out to the mall, bought a pen flashlight and came back in. I shined it in her face and she was about the ugliest mutt either of us had ever seen. My brother all of a sudden felt ill and wanted to leave. LOL!
As far as those Price is Right t shirts, they are selling those all over town in the cheap clothing shops. They have other similar slogans as well from old game shows and tv shows from the usa. I was in the elevator in my apartment complex a while ago and one of the maids was wearing a jilbab (the muslim head wear) and a shirt that said "i'm here about the blow job". She couldn't speak a word of english. I doubt she even knew what it meant. I'm guessing her bule boss gave it to her as a joke. But that shirt wasn't purchased in Indonesia!
Thailand is great but a bit over touristed. Along with Pattaya, which for its upsides has many downsides also. I liked Jakarta I just think you need to get out and about to fully appreciate it and not scare yourself away like I almost did. Bali can possibly be similar to Pattaya I assume and hopefully many of the downsides of Pattaya are eliminated or reduced there.
The girls are great. They are great actresses also as someone pointed out previously. I liked them and when they are comfortable with you it can mean a really good time. Like I said I had some memorable hook ups there and the whole vibe, once I got used to it, was really good.
The Oasis Amir. I have to give them a fairer shake. I needed a sanctuary and Oasis Amir was that, it is just that there were a few roaches. It is not infested but watching a few crawl out when you are with a really fine girl kind of dampens the mood (I like to play-date). Maybe I got stuck with a bad room. It was a really good hotel otherwise, Blue Bird on standby, all your favorite things close by. So I don't mean to dump on the Oasis.
Today Country is ok, I am very used to loud music and am a maybe slightly younger than the average monger in there. Though being close to a loudspeaker at Top Gun almost deafened me. As a tourist the loud music kind of goes with the territory in strange environments, as an expat I can see how it can get annoying. Maybe I was there on a good day, there were so many ladies and I had a good time there. I thought they were exceptionally cute though not very sophisticated. I also liked watching the band and the cuties doing the dancing shows...
I think MTR and Hotel Travel may have some potential from what I hear. Kartika was ok but I was just not into the layout or most of the ladies. There were some gems in some of the shops on that lane but I just was not into their setups.
You can buy Viagra Cialis and other stuff from the little cart vendors you will find outside of Lokasari. Exit Lokasari, make a left and you will see the carts after about a half a block, over by the street. They offered me stuff but I would show them my pack of Kamagra bought out in Thailand and we would have a laugh. Don't know how well this stuff works but in a pinch you can try these carts out.
The Price is Right... Just one of those surreal moments in Asia, in a place like that, with the wait staff dressed as pizza parlor cowboys, two girls in western hats dancing a jig (one really cute too) and some female sitting across from you with a Price is Right shirt on...
Travelfox
Will be in Jakarta tomorrow night. Since no time to read all bros thread.
May proceed to contact Don service or Qibye - Tropical Spa.
Unless there are better option.
[QUOTE=Baldmale]Seems to be "the rich executive club" in permata hijau. Just open.[/QUOTE]Heys,
I'm thinking about going Jakarta again next month for a long trip.. Where is this permata hijau? Any nice cheap hotels near this place? Is it near Senayan area?
Ex
I am very interested in the other posters who have used AFF and have described it in terms of a regular dating site, I have to say that has very much not been my experience.
I have used the Love Happens site and found that to be similar to how AFF is being described here; ordinary girls who are looking to meet friends or long term partners, some susceptible to a little subtle flirting which can lead to happy rewards but on the whole most are looking for some commitment. AFF on the other hand is a very different story. For a start have a look at the pictures the girls post, these ain't regular snapshots but often quite explicit porno shots (yes I know not all the photos are of the actual girls) it intrigues me why anyone would have to approach the idea of sex obliquely with a girl who posts pictures of her (alleged) pussy or tits on the internet and publishes perfectly frank profiles of her sexual desires and fantasies.
In the first week of joining I have accumulated a dozen "friends" all of whom responded to my simple "Hi wanna meet up" approach without any problem. I have arranged a couple of dates and the expectation of sex is absolutely explicit, Christ I've even had approaches from two blokes who want me to shag their wives!
I don't for one second doubt the accounts provided by other members but I have to say I think you're wasting alot of time gently wooing these girls, they're already up for it lads.
[Disclaimer: I have no commercial connection with either of the sites mentioned above]
Hello fellow members,
I'm visiting Jakarta next week and hope to get some good chicks to bang.
If anyone can help me how to go about, pls pm me.
I sincerely appreciate your asisstance. Thanks a lot.
[QUOTE=Dorman]I am very interested in the other posters who have used AFF and have described it in terms of a regular dating site, I have to say that has very much not been my experience.
I have used the Love Happens site and found that to be similar to how AFF is being described here; ordinary girls who are looking to meet friends or long term partners, some susceptible to a little subtle flirting which can lead to happy rewards but on the whole most are looking for some commitment. AFF on the other hand is a very different story. For a start have a look at the pictures the girls post, these ain't regular snapshots but often quite explicit porno shots (yes I know not all the photos are of the actual girls) it intrigues me why anyone would have to approach the idea of sex obliquely with a girl who posts pictures of her (alleged) pussy or tits on the internet and publishes perfectly frank profiles of her sexual desires and fantasies.
In the first week of joining I have accumulated a dozen "friends" all of whom responded to my simple "Hi wanna meet up" approach without any problem. I have arranged a couple of dates and the expectation of sex is absolutely explicit, Christ I've even had approaches from two blokes who want me to shag their wives!
I don't for one second doubt the accounts provided by other members but I have to say I think you're wasting alot of time gently wooing these girls, they're already up for it lads.
[Disclaimer: I have no commercial connection with either of the sites mentioned above][/QUOTE]I completely agree with Dorman. Sorry friends for my long silence, but I had to solve some private matters, but now I'm back.
My experience with AFF is also pretty, let's say, poor. First they want you to subscribe for "free", but as soon as you want to contact or have more infos about the ladies they ask you to join their memebership.
I did not join due to the following considerations: Hmmm, let's see, a 3 months gold memebership costs you 59. 95 US$, which is equivalent to about 2 visits to Kartika or Berlian, 1. 867 visits to Maribaya, 0. 585 visits to upscale places like Beverly Hill, Alexis or Sumo. Considering that in the end our goal is to drown the "biscuit" into the "cup" not really worth it, no?
Cheers, CF68
[QUOTE=Dorman]I am very interested in the other posters who have used AFF and have described it in terms of a regular dating site, I have to say that has very much not been my experience.
I have used the Love Happens site and found that to be similar to how AFF is being described here; ordinary girls who are looking to meet friends or long term partners, some susceptible to a little subtle flirting which can lead to happy rewards but on the whole most are looking for some commitment. AFF on the other hand is a very different story. For a start have a look at the pictures the girls post, these ain't regular snapshots but often quite explicit porno shots (yes I know not all the photos are of the actual girls) it intrigues me why anyone would have to approach the idea of sex obliquely with a girl who posts pictures of her (alleged) pussy or tits on the internet and publishes perfectly frank profiles of her sexual desires and fantasies.
In the first week of joining I have accumulated a dozen "friends" all of whom responded to my simple "Hi wanna meet up" approach without any problem. I have arranged a couple of dates and the expectation of sex is absolutely explicit, Christ I've even had approaches from two blokes who want me to shag their wives!
I don't for one second doubt the accounts provided by other members but I have to say I think you're wasting alot of time gently wooing these girls, they're already up for it lads.
[Disclaimer: I have no commercial connection with either of the sites mentioned above][/QUOTE]Dorman,
I don't disagree with anything you have said about AFF Indonesia. But Mangga and Sabbath are not wrong either. The main point that I think all of us were making is that it doesn't hurt to be a nice guy.
I'm not talking flowers and dinner here. Though I will admit to a couple of dates in which I ate my new friend first and then we ordered room service (grin). And for sure the sex typically happens within minutes (ok maybe tens of minutes) after meeting the lady on the first date.
The trick is getting that first date, and this is where your mileage may vary. If you are a good-looking guy and you're willing to post your photo, then you can pull many women easily with a simple "I like your profile. Do you want to meet? "
I'm an ok-looking guy and I'm fit, so once I get face-to-face with the lady, my hit rate has been excellent. Dorman is spot-on that these women (most of them anyway) are looking for sex. Wonderful! But I have three handicaps I have to work through. First handicap is that no way I will post a photo; second is that I am honest about my age. Late 40's. And most of the ladies claim to be mid-20's to late-30's (sometimes creative accounting, but I have had my share of for-real mid-20's stunners). Third handicap is that I am married. Which I am also honest about on AFF, and which accounts for my reluctance to lead with my face.
Some of you may be thinking "Why be honest about age and (especially) marital status)? ". That's up to you, and probably works for one-off liaisons. But I have 3 things I'm trying to do. One is to pull from the top-quartile of the talent pool; two is to get a GFE from each encounter; three is to build a book of repeat business.
So for all those reasons, I find it works best to be polite and friendly and patient to the tune of several rounds of email exchanges. This helps to screen out the nut-jobs, personality mis-matches and potential stalkers too. Rest assured that AFF has its share of those.
Last point about patient. I find it helps a lot to invite a woman for "just a drink" and to be clear that next steps are "terserah kamu" ("up to you" for English-only speakers). Since she is looking for sex (well, duh! ) if she decides you don't look like a psycho, then the next steps she chooses will usually be straight to your hotel room. But most of the women seem to appreciate being in the driver's seat. Go figure. .
So Dorman's right. AFF is more about sex than relationships. But in one of those quirks of the boy/girl thing, making it seem a little more like a relationship has paid big dividends for me on sex. Hope that helps.
[QUOTE=Crazyfish68]My experience with AFF is also pretty, let's say, poor. ...I did not join [/QUOTE]I've always regarded AFF as a scam (most women pics are fake pics posted by men, only the men pics are real etc.). If you run a search in Google groups you will find many threads complaining about AFF, not only about the zero female contacts, but eg about the fact that membership is hard to cancel, you have to cancel your credit card or they keep charging it.
[QUOTE=Morepoonhound]Dorman,
I'm an ok-looking guy and I'm fit, so once I get face-to-face with the lady, my hit rate has been excellent. Dorman is spot-on that these women (most of them anyway) are looking for sex. Wonderful![/QUOTE]My experience exactly. I have never likef AFF, a scam in my opinion, and have had quite good success with Faceparty. Requires a bit of investment in terms of time but have I now a "stable" of 3 regulars, all "good girls" with good jobs, live with their parents, and age range between 27 - 33. I'm no youngster, mid-50s, and it seems to work. Basically these gals want uncomplicated sex without any chance of reprisals (gossip etc etc). All 3 are fairly clear in their needs sexually, so you need to be proficient in that area and be able to deliver the goods. Apart from that all 3 crave some affection, something that seems to be missing in the life of these gals.
The general routine is that they will swing by my place after work and be on their way home by 9:30 PM, so no chance of suspicion from family, friends etc.
I would hate like hell to think that I gave the impression of being a cad, on the contrary I am quite the gentleman, well if it isn't an explicitly commercial relationship playing it nice is the only way you're going to get return matches.
I was just making the comparison between AFF and the more 'regular' dating forums, they are not exactly shrinking violets or playing it hard to get in Adult Friend Finder.
Just on the various sites to meet girls on, I have found Asianeuro.com a killer of a site literally hundreds of girls who want to meet someone and many just want a BONPA (Bonk Only No Public Appearance). I really on that site for my freebies who either want to come to Bali and would like some free accomodation for a week or when I came to Jakarta I caught up with a couple then as well. The beauty is this site covers more than just indonesia so that gives a wider range for you as well. I have looked at faceparty and it has many cuties as well, but also a bucket load of ladyboys which takes the edge away when you see a nice photo and then find out its a guy.
I know many of the people I have told to try Asianeuro have also done very well out of the site. What have you got to lose?
Looking to be back in Jakarta soon, So Mighty Spearsman we must catch up.
Enjoy
Prof
[QUOTE=Warrior88]Will be in Jakarta tomorrow night. Since no time to read all bros thread.
May proceed to contact Don service or Qibye - Tropical Spa.
Unless there are better option.[/QUOTE]If you can get away for something in the middle of the afternoon, it's better. Traffic was especially bad. Even for Jakarta. The couple of times I went in the late afternoon, early evening. Going early afternoon saved me 20 minutes each way in the taxi.
Altogether I have been 3 times, and there was a good selection of free-lancers available each time. Standard package at Tropical is a free-lancer (for sex) in a reasonably-nice private room, followed by an hour-long massage by a massage lady in a curtained-off row of massage mattresses. You do get to choose the free-lancer from a line-up if you ask for it, or you can simply wander to the back of the room where they sit and check them out more casually. But for the massage lady, unless you ask for one by name, you get the next available one in the queue.
Both times that I took the standard package, the massage ladies. Who are older and generally much less attractive than the free-lancers. Were also willing to sit on my dick. And did. But the massage mattresses aren't such a great atmosphere and there is less privacy. If the free-lancers are a 7, then the massage ladies are comparatively a 4. For sure I wouldn't go to Tropical to do one of the massage ladies. But it's fun enough as a second pop after doing the head-liner. And after getting 30 minutes of a decent massage.
My suggestion is to pay a little bit more. I guess it was maybe another 100k rupiah. And ask to have the massage lady brought to the same room where you do the deed with your free-lancer. She will like that better and so will you because of the better facilities. On the other hand, if all you plan to do is get the full standard massage on the back-end, rather than take a second shot, then maybe not so much point to pay the extra charge to stay on in the private room.
The massage ladies are not. Strictly speaking. Available for sex, but none have turned me down yet. If you want to be sure of that second shot (which you will have to tip additional for of course), maybe tell her when she walks in that you want full service, and ask to change if she isn't keen.
[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
Hi Joe,
How was your game eventually ? the 18 and 19 hole... :)
Joe and Bro Panya,
I am a very newbie to Golf and begin to enjoy it.
Would love to join playing with you if you don't mind playing with a beginner
[QUOTE=Panya]JM,
Tried to send you a PM, but you have either not turned it on or subscribed to it. Have fun, though!
Best,
Panya[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Funky Man]Hi Joe,
How was your game eventually ? the 18 and 19 hole... :)
Joe and Bro Panya,
I am a very newbie to Golf and begin to enjoy it.
Would love to join playing with you if you don't mind playing with a beginner[/QUOTE]To Joe,
I am a begginer at the 18 th hole game but I am very advanced at the 3 hole game , that is all my girl friend in Jarkata tell me.
Fast eddie 48
[QUOTE=Morepoonhound]If you can get away for something in the middle of the afternoon, it's better. Traffic was especially bad. Even for Jakarta. The couple of times I went in the late afternoon, early evening. Going early afternoon saved me 20 minutes each way in the taxi.
Altogether I have been 3 times, and there was a good selection of free-lancers available each time. Standard package at Tropical is a free-lancer (for sex) in a reasonably-nice private room, followed by an hour-long massage by a massage lady in a curtained-off row of massage mattresses. You do get to choose the free-lancer from a line-up if you ask for it, or you can simply wander to the back of the room where they sit and check them out more casually. But for the massage lady, unless you ask for one by name, you get the next available one in the queue.
Both times that I took the standard package, the massage ladies. Who are older and generally much less attractive than the free-lancers. Were also willing to sit on my dick. And did. But the massage mattresses aren't such a great atmosphere and there is less privacy. If the free-lancers are a 7, then the massage ladies are comparatively a 4. For sure I wouldn't go to Tropical to do one of the massage ladies. But it's fun enough as a second pop after doing the head-liner. And after getting 30 minutes of a decent massage.
My suggestion is to pay a little bit more. I guess it was maybe another 100k rupiah. And ask to have the massage lady brought to the same room where you do the deed with your free-lancer. She will like that better and so will you because of the better facilities. On the other hand, if all you plan to do is get the full standard massage on the back-end, rather than take a second shot, then maybe not so much point to pay the extra charge to stay on in the private room.
The massage ladies are not. Strictly speaking. Available for sex, but none have turned me down yet. If you want to be sure of that second shot (which you will have to tip additional for of course), maybe tell her when she walks in that you want full service, and ask to change if she isn't keen.
[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size][/QUOTE]Hi bro,
1st timer to Jakarta, where is tropical spa, near any hotel?
[QUOTE=Kangoo1]Hi bro,
1st timer to Jakarta, where is tropical spa, near any hotel?[/QUOTE]As a member with few posts of my own, I don't feel right telling you to RTFF. But maybe some of the more senior members won't mind saying so (grin).
Interpreting as charitably as possible, maybe you never post a report after asking a question because no-one answers you. So I will tell you that Tropical Spa is in the ITC Roxy Mas area, and that there are numerous hotels close enough by. Do a google on ITC Roxy Mas, hotel and Jakarta and then take your pick. But I would not choose my hotel based on proximity to a pussy-palace. Pick a hotel convenient for your business needs or personal tastes and then pay a taxi to take you to Tropical.
I did not tell you to RTFF, my friend. But I will tell you that a search of just this site using only the term "Tropical Spa" turns up more than 20 posts. And doing the same on Google with the addition of "Jakarta" turns up more than a couple hundred, including numerous links to international sex guide Indonesia pages. Hmmmm . . .
With 18 posts to your name and every one of them questions asking for help concerning Cebu, Chiangmai, Kuala Lumpur, Kuching, Penang and now Jakarta, I suggest it is payback time Kangoo. Maybe start by posting reports for some of the other cities you have already asked for help with.
Please enjoy your visit to Tropical Spa and tell everyone about it with a post here afterwards.
Kind regards.
Attracted by couriousity, since you see the coulored building on the other side of the Tollroad at Taman Aggrek, everytime you go to the airport, I decided to stop by on my way back from Singapore.
They have a regular Spa on the 3rd floor but if you go down to the 2nd floor via emergency stairs, you reach the full service area with a lot of girls.
The infrastructure is comparable to the one at Alexis or Sumo.
They have PRC and local gal's working there. Local's prices start at 500K-700K (for 1h10min) and PRC's at 900K for 45 min or 1,5jt for 1h30.
All the ladies look very cute, so I chosed a local for 700K and on we went to the nice and clean room.
The problem was that already the girl started to tell me in the lift that she was new there. Once in the room she said "malu" (she feels ashame) when it was about time to take the shower. I tried to be comprehensive and to be extremly nice with her, but after 10 minutes with nothing going on I decided to leave.
Then she asked me to wait until the hour was over in order not to have problems with the mamasan. You may laugh, but I felt sorry for her, so i tried to make her understand that I would have agreed to recieve a massage with covered BJ. She did't even agree on that so that was enaugh for me.
The cherry on top was that she even had the guts to ask me for the tip!!!!
I went down and I complained with the mamasan. First she told me that she could'nt guarantee for the service since I chosed the girl myself without asking her about eventual qualities of the gal (?!?!?!?). I told her in my indonesian that the situation was alike going to the bakery and the baker refuses to sell you bread.
I asked then if I had to pay, and she said that the cashier is upstairs. I made myself clearer explaining her that I was not willing to pay for sth I did not "consume", after a negotiation of about 20 minutes we agreed (after she had called some "low level bodyguards") that I had to pay only 200k for the room.
It's the first time that such a situation happened to me in about 1,5 years of mongering in Jkt, but anyway, short, IMHO that is a place to avoid!
Cheers, CF68
Hello my fellow JKT mongerers :)
Just got back from a trip. In malaysia now.. Here are the reports.
Went to BATS. Here is FR
Name = Sonya
Boobs = B
Looks = 6
Age = thirties
BJ = 5/10 very fast... cause i need fuck...
FJ = good... 7/10 she moaned alot and give me my manlihood.. heh heh
finished her off with doggie.
Damage = 500k
Wir = will look for her again. Cause she showed me some pictures on her phone. Very beautiful girl. Instant I like. Then she said is her YOUNGER sister. Ehhehe. Hope to see her and her sister. Maybe can threesome
Next day, was at BATS again. Met an old friend as I kept in contact with her. She was my 1st fuck in jakarta when I was there. Didn't know price paid 1 million for ST. Sorry if I destroyed the market as I didn't check and didn't know about this site then. Here is report. 2nd fuck: the
Name = Aida
Age = 26 thats what she told me
Boobs = D <==== natural
BJ = 9/10 she knows how to please me
FJ = 8/10 still very tight and juicy.
Damage = 500k tips, she stayed with me how night long never ask bout money. Probably would have got it for free as she told me after the 1st time if I see and call her when I'm in jkt she won't ask for money and true enough she didn't ask for money and I willingly gave to her. Cause I kinda liked her and she kinda liked me. She is coming Malaysia to visit me
Well. She has some friends that are VERY GOOD LOOKING. She has I think 3 friends that are indonesian male magazine models. According to her, her friend charges from the region of 3 million rups. 7 million rups. I wanted to have a go. But afraid that I would ruin all relationship with her.
I have her contact and her photos. Would try to post them up soon. Thats all for now folks.
Ex
All experienced JKT mongers are aware of this, but I recently figured out an interesting rule of thumb -- quite convenient actually:
- Usually at BATS, 90% of the girls are working girls
- Usually at CJ's, 70% of the girls are working girls, the rest are girls having fun on the town (many of them coming in a group of friends to celebrate one of their's birthday) EXCEPT Sunday/Monday/Tuesday where the 90% rule prevails, ie 90% of girls at CJ's are working ladies on those 3 specific nights.
Hope this gives some rough ideas for newbies out there, at least you know where you set foot.
Ciao and bang safely!
Crazyfish 68 -
While my disgruntled situation was much different from your (and in Bali) I simply told the head honcho that i wanted 75% of my money back or . . . I'd go online (not mentioning any specific site) and tell tens of thousands of viewer not to frequent thier establishment. Worked quickly and without any hassle.
- jF
[QUOTE=Crazyfish68]Attracted by couriousity, since you see the coulored building on the other side of the Tollroad at Taman Aggrek, everytime you go to the airport, I decided to stop by on my way back from Singapore.
They have a regular Spa on the 3rd floor but if you go down to the 2nd floor via emergency stairs, you reach the full service area with a lot of girls.
The infrastructure is comparable to the one at Alexis or Sumo.
They have PRC and local gal's working there. Local's prices start at 500K-700K (for 1h10min) and PRC's at 900K for 45 min or 1,5jt for 1h30.
All the ladies look very cute, so I chosed a local for 700K and on we went to the nice and clean room.
The problem was that already the girl started to tell me in the lift that she was new there. Once in the room she said "malu" (she feels ashame) when it was about time to take the shower. I tried to be comprehensive and to be extremly nice with her, but after 10 minutes with nothing going on I decided to leave.
Then she asked me to wait until the hour was over in order not to have problems with the mamasan. You may laugh, but I felt sorry for her, so i tried to make her understand that I would have agreed to recieve a massage with covered BJ. She did't even agree on that so that was enaugh for me.
The cherry on top was that she even had the guts to ask me for the tip!!!!
I went down and I complained with the mamasan. First she told me that she could'nt guarantee for the service since I chosed the girl myself without asking her about eventual qualities of the gal (?!?!?!?). I told her in my indonesian that the situation was alike going to the bakery and the baker refuses to sell you bread.
I asked then if I had to pay, and she said that the cashier is upstairs. I made myself clearer explaining her that I was not willing to pay for sth I did not "consume", after a negotiation of about 20 minutes we agreed (after she had called some "low level bodyguards") that I had to pay only 200k for the room.
It's the first time that such a situation happened to me in about 1,5 years of mongering in Jkt, but anyway, short, IMHO that is a place to avoid!
Cheers, CF68[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Morepoonhound]If you can get away for something in the middle of the afternoon, it's better. Traffic was especially bad. Even for Jakarta. The couple of times I went in the late afternoon, early evening. Going early afternoon saved me 20 minutes each way in the taxi.
.[/blue][/size][/QUOTE]Agreed with you. Told my driver to proceed from Planet Hollywood.
Was told, it will take me 90 minutes due to the Traffic Jam.
Went to Delta Spa instead..
[QUOTE=Crazyfish68]Attracted by couriousity, since you see the coulored building on the other side of the Tollroad at Taman Aggrek, everytime you go to the airport, I decided to stop by on my way back from Singapore.
They have a regular Spa on the 3rd floor but if you go down to the 2nd floor via emergency stairs, you reach the full service area with a lot of girls.
The infrastructure is comparable to the one at Alexis or Sumo.
They have PRC and local gal's working there. Local's prices start at 500K-700K (for 1h10min) and PRC's at 900K for 45 min or 1,5jt for 1h30.
All the ladies look very cute, so I chosed a local for 700K and on we went to the nice and clean room.
The problem was that already the girl started to tell me in the lift that she was new there. Once in the room she said "malu" (she feels ashame) when it was about time to take the shower. I tried to be comprehensive and to be extremly nice with her, but after 10 minutes with nothing going on I decided to leave.
Then she asked me to wait until the hour was over in order not to have problems with the mamasan. You may laugh, but I felt sorry for her, so i tried to make her understand that I would have agreed to recieve a massage with covered BJ. She did't even agree on that so that was enaugh for me.
The cherry on top was that she even had the guts to ask me for the tip!!!!
I went down and I complained with the mamasan. First she told me that she could'nt guarantee for the service since I chosed the girl myself without asking her about eventual qualities of the gal (?!?!?!?). I told her in my indonesian that the situation was alike going to the bakery and the baker refuses to sell you bread.
I asked then if I had to pay, and she said that the cashier is upstairs. I made myself clearer explaining her that I was not willing to pay for sth I did not "consume", after a negotiation of about 20 minutes we agreed (after she had called some "low level bodyguards") that I had to pay only 200k for the room.
It's the first time that such a situation happened to me in about 1,5 years of mongering in Jkt, but anyway, short, IMHO that is a place to avoid!
Cheers, CF68[/QUOTE]Thanks for the informative post, I was just about to pose a question to the forum on this place as I also have passed many times on my way to/from the airport and also wondered about the facilities. I guess from your experience I'll chalk this up as a place to avoid.
[QUOTE=Jijjy]Crazyfish 68 -
While my disgruntled situation was much different from your (and in Bali) I simply told the head honcho that i wanted 75% of my money back or . . . I'd go online (not mentioning any specific site) and tell tens of thousands of viewer not to frequent thier establishment. Worked quickly and without any hassle.
- jF[/QUOTE]Thanks jF for this further good argumentation, I just wish that no-one of us will have to use it in the future.
Cheers,
CF68
I think you are pretty accurate with that statistic and I would add 30 Bar at Le Meridien at 90% as well with a much lower standard. The only point of clarification for those who aren't familiar with the "scene" in Jakarta is that it is far from obvious that the percentages are that high because many of the girls will not approach you directly. I know (naive) bules who have spent 2 or 3 hours in BATS and "never noticed" ANY WG's in there.
[QUOTE=Bulai69]I think you are pretty accurate with that statistic and I would add 30 Bar at Le Meridien at 90% as well with a much lower standard. [/QUOTE]I agree with the many comments about the standards having dropped dismally in Tiga Puloh at the Meridien. Maybe another 90% rule of thumb is that out of 10 hotties to be found in the bule-circuit bars, 9 of them will NOT be at 30 Bar. The talent pool is definitely deeper at BATS and CJ's. But still a good chance that you will find several women worth boning at Meridien on any given night.
This is a 3-part story, all involving a hard-bodied lady called Yanti that I met in 30 Bar. She isn't a real beauty - face maybe a 7 with make-up on, and small breasts - but she is a gym bunny (aerobics) and dances hard in the bar, so she has tight abs, a muscular little bum and great muscle control of her already tight pussy. Her English is good because she had a bule-banker boyfriend for years (Merrill Lynch, I think she said) and she is smart and fun to talk to. Oh, not to forget that she really likes to fuck (grin).
The first encounter was in Tiga Puloh, where she picked me up very smoothly, even though I had my eye on a hotter looking lady who walked in 5-minutes after I met Yanti. We went back to my nearby hotel with no mention of money, and did a couple of enthusiastic rounds between midnight and 2 or 2:30 am. Yanti has a daughter at home, so she couldn't stay the night. When she got ready to go, I slipped 400k rups into her jeans-skirt pocket and handed her another 50 "for taxi-mu". She went absolutely ballistic, telling me that she NEVER fucks for less than a million and that I have to give her more money.
I replied calmly that I sometimes pay 300k at Tiga Puloh (actually, that is a stretch - I haven't gone that low for a year there). But I am a fair guy and she was a great fuck so not only did I give her my top-rate of 400k but I was adding 50 more for her taxi. She tried a couple more rounds of "give me at least 800", and "I have never been paid so little", but she wasn't nasty about it, and we were kissing and mutually grabbing ass throughout our disagreement.
I stood firm, but I did walk her downstairs to the taxi so that she wouldn't have to pay the security guards. Because she dropped the subject gracefully when it was clear I wouldn't budge, I gave her another 50 as I dropped her off, because my top rate is actually 500k (smile), and she was really an outstanding fuck. On the way home she sms'd me that she wanted to see me again and hoped that I would call, so she clearly wasn't too upset about her pay-out.
Part two was a couple months later. I called Yanti in the afternoon and she remembered immediately who I was. I had her come straight to my hotel around 10 pm and she was excellent again - nice hard-body and obviously does kegel exercises to keep her little friend in shape (and her friend feels really little when Yanti bears down - wonderful!). Gave her 500k on the way out with no discussion. I couldn't help over-hearing her tell the taxi driver to take her to the Meridien (this was just after mid-night).
Part three was another afternoon call to Yanti, and she got my full attention by asking me if I would like her to bring a friend along. Pasti! Definitely I was up for a two-girl-tango. The friend turned out to be a slim, slightly prettier but not particularly fit, younger girl - maybe 23 or so. Yanti claims 26, but my guess is that she is a hard-bodied 30. Very fun to have one girl riding my dick while the other rode my tongue, but Yanti was by far the better fuck. Total damage 500k for each lady. I expect I could have paid less - maybe 400 each, but room-service is worth something, after all.
So the point of all this comes back to where they headed after our 3 hour marathon. I teasingly asked if they were going back to Bar 30, and they replied "of course". That's where their friends are and where they like to hang out (and maybe score a second trick - grin again). So even though the talent pool is much deeper at BATS or CJ's, there are still a handful of Yanti types that for some reason prefer the Meridien. Jakarta remains remarkable, and we are all damn lucky.
[QUOTE=Pak Mike]My experience exactly. I have never likef AFF, a scam in my opinion, and have had quite good success with Faceparty. Requires a bit of investment in terms of time but have I now a "stable" of 3 regulars, all "good girls" with good jobs, live with their parents, and age range between 27 - 33. I'm no youngster, mid-50s, and it seems to work. Basically these gals want uncomplicated sex without any chance of reprisals (gossip etc etc). All 3 are fairly clear in their needs sexually, so you need to be proficient in that area and be able to deliver the goods. Apart from that all 3 crave some affection, something that seems to be missing in the life of these gals.
The general routine is that they will swing by my place after work and be on their way home by 9:30 PM, so no chance of suspicion from family, friends etc.[/QUOTE]Pak Mike,
On several occasions, you posted here saying that you have a stock of 2-3 good girls that you can bang pretty much at will when you're in town. As a consequence of which you have no need to go hunting for prey until late at night/early morning. I have to say this is very well done. I am looking for your guidance as to how you do this.
Basically, in my situation, I endeavour to do the same and at some points I do have a stock of 2-3 chicks (good girls or naugty girls but not "working girls" so to speak) that I can call and bang HOWEVER this is extremely dynamci ie sometimes they are hot sometimes they are cold, which means that my "stable" of regulars evolves continuously. This concretely means that I have to do some hunting to make sure I continuously have 2-3 regulars. So very often, I am in a situation where my 2 or 3 gals are cold or not available at the same time and basically I have to go hunting.
My question to you: how do you keep your stock of 2-3 good gals to be reliably and predictably available to you? Personally, I can't, even though I stay in touch with them (SMS, call, sometimes e-mail etc.). Also, having 2-3 gals available means you have to take care of them regularly, if you don't see them for 2-3 weeks (because you may be busy closing some other chicks), then naturally -- as I find it- they become cold or find another sausage around.
Please share the ingredients of your success.
Thanks in advance !
I started out a few years ago as one of those naive bules hanging out at BATS. Never noticing what was happening around me. Now however, I can gladly say that with some thourough coaching from the eminent seniors, I am no longer naive and have graduated to the level of knave.
Hello B69 ! You have been missed on the board.
AF
It is funny to see how much X-rated movies Indo chicks watch!
I have been banging quite a few "good girls" in Jakarta lately (ie not at all WG's) and it really is amazing how much blue movies these chicks watch!
As a funny example/anecdote, I met a (quite conservative) Indo accountant (a very "good" girl who acknowledged to me afterwards she had not had sex in 6 months after breaking up with her BF.- I know this story has been heard before but in this case genuine) and the first we had sex, it was wild as in a porn movie: she went down on me, licking everything "down there" and seemingly enjoying it, then when I was inside her she was (almost screaming) "fuck me, fuck me! ", basically like they do in the porn movies. I was giggling inside of me when all of this happened thinking to myself I was like a porn star banging a conservative accountant (job which to me sounds dry and conservative! )!
Any other fun anecdotes with blue movies in Indo, guys?
Cheers, happy shagging in Indo!
[QUOTE=ProfDesigner]Just on the various sites to meet girls on, I have found Asianeuro.com a killer of a site literally hundreds of girls who want to meet someone and many just want a BONPA (Bonk Only No Public Appearance).
I have looked at faceparty and it has many cuties as well, but also a bucket load of ladyboys which takes the edge away when you see a nice photo and then find out its a guy.
Prof[/QUOTE]Great tip, Prof. I didn't know about the Asianeuro site until I saw your message about it. But I can guess that one reason many of these sites are great places for freebies is because the women who are looking for sex have profiles on multiple sites.
I was delighted to see one of my regular freebies from AdultFriendFinder on the very first screen of Asianeuro (full smile). She is divorced and has several clothing stores around town. I guess she uses AFF for sexual relief and looks on Asianeuro for a new husband. Her profile on AFF mainly talks about her big nipples and that she likes to be licked (no photo). Her profile on Asianeuro has a nice full-face picture, and describes her personality and her interest in marriage. But I would guess that if you met her through her Asianeuro profile she would be every bit as hot once you got her warmed up. And for sure she wouldn't be looking for your money. She has plenty of her own.
Same story with lovehappens. Two different lady "friends" of mine from AFF have told me their profile names on lovehappens. And similar drill. Their lovehappens profiles say they want a committed relationship or marriage, while they are playing. Big time. On AFF. Incidentally, the magic code words on lovehappens are "fling / physical" under the category "commitment level". Do a search to find only women who clicked the interested in a fling/physical box, and you will turn up several dozens. But don't be discouraged if the profile you prefer doesn't have that box checked. Like I just said, two of my AFF friends are on lovehappens looking all respectable.
Two more. Just quickly. First, faceparty definitely has overlap with AFF, but the average age of the women on faceparty is more like early 20's. So if your age is late 40's like me, then it isn't as great a place to hunt as AFF or lovehappens or now (thanks to ProfDesigner), Asianeuro. You can screen out the lady-boys though by specifying "only females" in the searches that you do on faceparty. Well, most of them anyway. Some of the TS fellows sign themselves up as females. Finally, friendster is a site that many, many Indonesian women have profiles on. I don't find it good for hunting, though it's a good place to learn more about your new friends. Ask them what their FS (that's what many call it) profile is, and then check them out.
Great tip, Prof. I haven't scored any freebies yet from Asianeuro, but with the confidence your endorsement gives me, and my early luck spotting a current lady friends profile there, I plan to give this a try. Jump in gentlemen. The pussy is free. Albeit takes some work on email and sms.
[QUOTE=ProfDesigner]Just on the various sites to meet girls on, I have found Asianeuro.com a killer of a site literally hundreds of girls who want to meet someone and many just want a BONPA (Bonk Only No Public Appearance).
I have looked at faceparty and it has many cuties as well, but also a bucket load of ladyboys which takes the edge away when you see a nice photo and then find out its a guy.
Prof[/QUOTE]Great tip, Prof. I didn't know about the Asianeuro site until I saw your message about it. But I can guess that one reason many of these sites are great places for freebies is because the women who are looking for sex have profiles on multiple sites.
I was delighted to see one of my regular freebies from AdultFriendFinder on the very first screen of Asianeuro (full smile). She is divorced and has several clothing stores around town. I guess she uses AFF for sexual relief and looks on Asianeuro for a new husband. Her profile on AFF mainly talks about her big nipples and that she likes to be licked (no photo). Her profile on Asianeuro has a nice full-face picture, and describes her personality and her interest in marriage. But I would guess that if you met her through her Asianeuro profile she would be every bit as hot once you got her warmed up. And for sure she wouldn't be looking for your money. She has plenty of her own.
Same story with lovehappens. Two different lady "friends" of mine from AFF have told me their profile names on lovehappens. And similar drill. Their lovehappens profiles say they want a committed relationship or marriage, while they are playing. Big time. On AFF. Incidentally, the magic code words on lovehappens are "fling / physical" under the category "commitment level". Do a search to find only women who clicked the interested in a fling/physical box, and you will turn up several dozens. But don't be discouraged if the profile you prefer doesn't have that box checked. Like I just said, two of my AFF friends are on lovehappens looking all respectable.
Two more. Just quickly. First, faceparty definitely has overlap with AFF, but the average age of the women on faceparty is more like early 20's. So if your age is late 40's like me, then it isn't as great a place to hunt as AFF or lovehappens or now (thanks to ProfDesigner), Asianeuro. You can screen out the lady-boys though by specifying "only females" in the searches that you do on faceparty. Well, most of them anyway. Some of the TS fellows sign themselves up as females. Finally, friendster is a site that many, many Indonesian women have profiles on. I don't find it good for hunting, though it's a good place to learn more about your new friends. Ask them what their FS (that's what many call it) profile is, and then check them out.
Great tip, Prof. I haven't scored any freebies yet from Asianeuro, but with the confidence your endorsement gives me, and my early luck spotting a current lady friends profile there, I plan to give this a try. Jump in gentlemen. The pussy is free. Albeit takes some work on email and sms.
[QUOTE=Morepoonhound]Great tip, Prof. I didn't know about the Asianeuro site until I saw your message about it. But I can guess that one reason many of these sites are great places for freebies is because the women who are looking for sex have profiles on multiple sites.
Finally, friendster is a site that many, many Indonesian women have profiles on. I don't find it good for hunting, though it's a good place to learn more about your new friends. Ask them what their FS (that's what many call it) profile is, and then check them out.
Jump in gentlemen. The pussy is free. Albeit takes some work on email and sms.[/QUOTE]I am curious as to why you are putting down Friendster as not good for hunting? I've had quite a few free pussies there, even though the "shag cycle" for some of them has been a couple of drinks/dinners before the shag took place, but on one or 2 occasions the bang took place on the first "date".
It is true that I did not get to bang some of the chicks I met on friendster, but can't have 100% success ratio!
Interested in your views.
Cheers
[QUOTE=Mandiri]I am curious as to why you are putting down Friendster as not good for hunting? I've had quite a few free pussies there, even though the "shag cycle" for some of them has been a couple of drinks/dinners before the shag took place, but on one or 2 occasions the bang took place on the first "date".
It is true that I did not get to bang some of the chicks I met on friendster, but can't have 100% success ratio!
Interested in your views.
Cheers[/QUOTE]Not putting down Friendster. Just commenting that I haven't personally been successful hunting there. I have the impression that Friendster has by far more profiles than any of the other sites, so it makes sense that there would be plenty of pussy available there. Faceparty (where I also haven't had much success), has evidently been a great place to hunt for Pak Mike, and maybe many others, so go with what works for you.
Really I think it comes down to being spoiled for choice. I have had so much luck with AdultFriendFinder, that I haven't been especially persistent with spending much time on other sites. I actually started on all 3 of faceparty, friendster and AFF around the same time, and when AFF worked out so well, I shopped much less frequently on the others.
I should be clear that I pay for my AFF membership, while I'm just an interested "regular member" on the other sites. But even during the first month on AFF before I signed up for a paid subscription, I was able to pull a couple of women with my no-photo profile. For any of you fellows that are younger (say, 20's to mid-30's), at least ok-looking, and willing to post a face picture of yourself, I suspect you will attract lots of female interest without having to pay for a membership.
But again, nothing wrong with friendster, or faceparty or any of the other hunting sites. I just haven't figured out so well how to make them work for me. And with an excellent, target-rich alternative available, I have been a little bit lazy about raising my game elsewhere. Good on any of you that are pulling from the other sites, and thanks for encouraging the rest of us to try, with your success stories.
Hi MPH,
I was always under the impression that AFF was a big money scam. Has your success enabled you to meet up with women who just want to have a good time or only for the sake of money.Could you also mention the countries as that may have some relevance to the response. I do know in the ultimate analysis we pay anyway.
Reason is that if money is involved its better to go where you know you likely getting the biggest bang for your buck.
[QUOTE=Morepoonhound]Not putting down Friendster. Just commenting that I haven't personally been successful hunting there. I have the impression that Friendster has by far more profiles than any of the other sites, so it makes sense that there would be plenty of pussy available there. Faceparty (where I also haven't had much success), has evidently been a great place to hunt for Pak Mike, and maybe many others, so go with what works for you.
Really I think it comes down to being spoiled for choice. I have had so much luck with AdultFriendFinder, that I haven't been especially persistent with spending much time on other sites. I actually started on all 3 of faceparty, friendster and AFF around the same time, and when AFF worked out so well, I shopped much less frequently on the others.
I should be clear that I pay for my AFF membership, while I'm just an interested "regular member" on the other sites. But even during the first month on AFF before I signed up for a paid subscription, I was able to pull a couple of women with my no-photo profile. For any of you fellows that are younger (say, 20's to mid-30's), at least ok-looking, and willing to post a face picture of yourself, I suspect you will attract lots of female interest without having to pay for a membership.
But again, nothing wrong with friendster, or faceparty or any of the other hunting sites. I just haven't figured out so well how to make them work for me. And with an excellent, target-rich alternative available, I have been a little bit lazy about raising my game elsewhere. Good on any of you that are pulling from the other sites, and thanks for encouraging the rest of us to try, with your success stories.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Morepoonhound]Not putting down Friendster. Just commenting that I haven't personally been successful hunting there. I have the impression that Friendster has by far more profiles than any of the other sites, so it makes sense that there would be plenty of pussy available there. Faceparty (where I also haven't had much success), has evidently been a great place to hunt for Pak Mike, and maybe many others, so go with what works for you.
Really I think it comes down to being spoiled for choice. I have had so much luck with AdultFriendFinder, that I haven't been especially persistent with spending much time on other sites. I actually started on all 3 of faceparty, friendster and AFF around the same time, and when AFF worked out so well, I shopped much less frequently on the others.
I should be clear that I pay for my AFF membership, while I'm just an interested "regular member" on the other sites. But even during the first month on AFF before I signed up for a paid subscription, I was able to pull a couple of women with my no-photo profile. For any of you fellows that are younger (say, 20's to mid-30's), at least ok-looking, and willing to post a face picture of yourself, I suspect you will attract lots of female interest without having to pay for a membership.
But again, nothing wrong with friendster, or faceparty or any of the other hunting sites. I just haven't figured out so well how to make them work for me. And with an excellent, target-rich alternative available, I have been a little bit lazy about raising my game elsewhere. Good on any of you that are pulling from the other sites, and thanks for encouraging the rest of us to try, with your success stories.[/QUOTE]OK, makes sense ! Thanks for the clarification.
[QUOTE=Mature Man]Hi MPH,
I was always under the impression that AFF was a big money scam. Has your success enabled you to meet up with women who just want to have a good time or only for the sake of money.Could you also mention the countries as that may have some relevance to the response. I do know in the ultimate analysis we pay anyway.
Reason is that if money is involved its better to go where you know you likely getting the biggest bang for your buck.[/QUOTE]I don’t think AFF is a scam. Hard-sell marketing for sure, and lots of annoying pop-up’s to up-sell and cross-sell even after you buy a paid membership. But the basic product of people actively seeking sex is for real.
I have said a couple of times that we are all damn lucky to be playing in Indonesia, whether at the 5-star-hotel hooker bars or the Kota knock-shops or at Blok-M. I think that good luck carries over into AdultFriendFinder, especially if you are a bule.
Go back through the past several screens worth of messages and read what Mangga and Mandiri and Pak Mike (maybe some others also) have to say. I agree with what they have said about the motivations and behavior of the wanita jelita (lovely ladies). But here is my similar story.
I have met dozens of women from Jakarta that I found on AFF in the 4 months since I bought a membership, which costs me around US$12 per month. There are more expensive options for membership, but I went with the budget-ticket. Dozens means more than 30 ladies for those of you keen on miscellaneous details (grin).
Only one woman asked me for money. That was for her taxi fare, which I usually offer anyway, unless I have reason to believe that my friend is very well-heeled and may be offended by the offer. Depending on where the lady lives in relation to my central-Jakarta hotel, I give anywhere from 50k to 150k for taxi on my own initiative. Menteng gets 50k, and Bogor or Bekasi gets 150k, if you wonder how I decide, but I’m not perfect on my knowledge of greater Jakarta geography. Only the one woman (a classy 40-something Sundanese sales promoter) asked for it, and she asked by sms before she ever got into the taxi to come see me.
And just like some others have reported, a few women were shocked (borderline offended) that I offered them even taxi money. One that I gave 100k to gave me back 80k smiling sweetly and telling me that her parking at the hotel was only 20k. She had driven herself there, same as a paediatrician (yes, a medical doctor), a university lecturer, and a couple of wealthy tai-tais (married wives). They all have their own cars, and good jobs. This is one reason they like bules. Less chance that we will be patients or ex-students, or spouses of neighbors, etc.
Two weeks ago I had a three-some (yes, there are also women who hunt in pairs on AFF under the category “couples: 2 women”) Life is really too good in Indonesia (full smile). One was an older engineer (late 30’s) and her friend was a secretary (20-something). After a really fantastic session, I slipped 50k each into their pockets (for taxi-mu). While the younger one was in the toilet putting on lipstick, the older one handed me back my 50k, telling me that it was nice of me, but that I should give only to the younger one because her salary isn’t so high. Implicit message was “I have my pride”. Incidentally, I did her again, by herself, over her lunch hour the very next day. Wonderful!
For the sceptics reading this, there are definitely some women who are hooking for dollars or SugarDaddies on the AFF site, and their profiles say so explicitly. The code words are “looking for generous men”, or “take me shopping”, or “want to be treated as a courtesan”. My guesstimate is that maybe 1 out of 15 or 1 out of 20 profiles are like this, at least explicitly. Single digit percentage only, and I simply avoid those women. Many more may well be open to the cash-for-gash trade-off, but we all know how sweet the women can be, even though they may not have much money. When I want to pay (which is still often – grin), then I prefer to call one of my done-her-before “sure thing” professional friends, or go look for fresh pussy myself at BATS or D’s Place.
Finally, for those of you convinced that AFF is a scam in terms of the site itself ripping you off, I think that is nonsense. Sure they charge a fee, and if you are worried about not being able to cancel your credit card, just send them a money-order like I do. I can’t risk any unexplained charges on my cards because my wife vets the bills carefully. Still not persuaded, then do an internet search on AdultFriendfinder, or on the founder, Andrew Conru. Even the Wall Street Journal has been writing about how “Adult” dating sites flourish all over the world as people choose sex over love. Good for all of us friends of Jackson (smile again). Remember we are here to share experiences about meeting women for sex. Not only meeting women that we pay for sex. Hubba-hubba!
I can’t comment on AFF in the United States because I play only in Asia, and mostly in Indonesia. But I can tell you for sure that AFF Malaysia and Thailand are both excellent sources for freebies, and I plan to try Vietnam within the next month. Stay tuned and stay grateful that Indonesian women are as hot as they are. Treat them all well, because they do share stories about us.
Hope that helps, fellow seekers.
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[QUOTE=Dorman]I
I don't for one second doubt the accounts provided by other members but I have to say I think you're wasting alot of time gently wooing these girls, they're already up for it lads.
You're quite right about what you say about AFF girls Dorman. Because AFF is an explicitly sex-seekers site, it's much easier to get straight down to business than with some site like Friendster. But wooing is all relative. When I said wooing, I only meant something like a couple of emails/text messages/phone calls. But there is a definite difference between giving the "come here and fuck me" wave to a fucklet in a miniskirt at TC or the Berlian and talking with an office-girl or horny housewife on AFF.
My point is also that a bit of wooing and sweet talk will always produce a much better and more fun experience than "hey wanna fuck?". Again, it's all relative and it all depends on what you're after. Personally I look for the AFF girls who are "keepers" - ie those who you can fuck on a continuing basis and form some kind of friendship. But that's just me.
In my experience, the ones who I've fucked after one message have been the ones who've I've mentally struck off my list when they've worked out the door after a workout in my bed.
Just to add something new to this very interesting discussion: One species of AFF girl is the sex-nutter. There are a few girlies on the site who will fuck anything that moves and take the approach that they'll get fucked more often if they have a number of profiles under different names.
I've run accross two like this in my career on the site. One was as fat and ugly as you could possibly imagine, but would do just about anything! This was two years ago - I sent her a message with my hp attached, she immediately sent me a text saying "so when do we fuck?". Having nothing else better to do at the time (grin) I replied "well now, of course", not really expecting anything to happen straight away. She immediately replied "well, what's your address?". When I opened the door to her and saw what was on offer I almost shut it again, but hey, I'm too polite and I thought "what the heck?".
She was a 3-holer who would take whatever I wanted to put in any oriface. And she thought I was great and loved my toys. After that time she regularly called me wanting the same treatment. But given her standard of looks I have gave in once and let her back into my apartment. She has been a regular around AFF and the chatroom connected to it ever since. I see a new profile for her every couple of months. She has been removed by the webmaster a couple of times.
Sex-nutter number two was as skinny as No 1 was fat. Also a very ugly face. She was just the same in terms of the "I'll take anything anywhere anytime" attitude. I related her story several months ago on ISG. After I had fucked her in every possible way for two hours she lay in the nude in front of my TV watching my porno DVDs and masturbating with my vibrator! I sat and drank a few beers and occasionally slippled a finger up her arse while she buzzed away. Well, same story, I've recognised her on about six different profiles since then.
What you want to do with this category of AFF fucklet is a matter of taste: but in the spirit of sociological inquiry I thought I should mention it.....
If you are going for the fat, ugly ones, I don't think there's much need to use AFF. Just go to any bar and take one home. I'm sure they'd be more than happy to accomodate you. There's an old comedy bit by Andrew Dice Clay where he says "with diseases and women's attitudes today, sex is too much trouble". So his plan is to find the fattest, ugliest mutt in the bar and take her home. Some chick nobody else has even thought of fuckin'. He says that type of girl really appreciates the sex and will do anything to please you. And you have little to no chance of catching any disease.
I don't subscribe to that theory, but it's a theory.
I too used to prefer noncompetitive sports. There's a lot of wisdom in those words, if you can stomach the fat.
[QUOTE=Smoothy] So his plan is to find the fattest, ugliest mutt in the bar and take her home. Some chick nobody else has even thought of fuckin'. He says that type of girl really appreciates the sex and will do anything to please you. And you have little to no chance of catching any disease.
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Interesting subject. When you are holed up in some city outside of Asia, pay sites like AFF would be a godsend, but the subscription paper trail is always a deal breaker (although someone mentioned they take money orders, which I didn't know).
In the states, there is a totally free site called craigslist.org, which is quite effective. They have been adding additional areas to cover a lot of non-US cities. It is slow going, but there is even a JKT area. Trouble is that there is no traffic there because nobody knows about it yet.
my first trip to jakarta last week. stayed first night at century atlet, got in around 2pm. called the spa to see if they could send someone up for a massage, 90 minutes was 150k. 10 minutes later she shows up, not a hottie, but pleasant looking, wearing the hotel uniform. she did not say a word, i stripped and she got down to the best damned massage, truly a massage therapist. after massaging every part of me except the package, she started massaging the eggs and then (finally speaking) pointed to my cock and said "massage"? sure sweetie as there were 10 minutes left. good hj followed. after she went to the bathroom to wash, came out and i handed her the 15k + 10k as tip as the hj was not expected. nice way to start my vacation in jakarta! what was interesting was how little communication there was, she said maybe 3 words. all women should talk this much!
i went to the block m bars same evening. had great trouble explaining to the (several) taxi drivers where i wanted to go. block m they understood, they want to take me to the mall. i explain girlie bars, top gun, d's place. i make drinking sign with my hand, draw hourglass figure, say cewek. they say cj's (by the way i was the only person at cj's around 10:30pm)? bats? at one point one of the taxi drivers at the mall called over several other drivers, and we went around for several minutes on this. finally one taxi driver spoke english with me and we figured it out.
finally get to the bars, hit several, mostly dead. finally at one a pushy mamasan brought over several different gals, one i finally liked and we got into the particulars. she was very eager, but because of the language problems i wanted to confirm everything with the mamasan. the mamasan spoke good english and wanted a tip for her services so i gave her one. we confirmed full-service, all-night, the girl would stay until 8am and i would taxi-tip her 50k, 500k for the girl. off to my hotel with the girl, 24, asian-skinny, good enthusiastic service. when we finished she went to the bathroom and slipped into her street clothes, saying she needed to get to bats bar. wtf? i reminded her all-night, and she just looked sad and said she needed to get to bats and please pay her. i was unsure how to proceed, a bit peeved at her leaving early, so i handed her two 100k notes and she seemed happy with that and left. i realize that is probably too little to give for the service, ya? but i also expected service in the morning and to wake up with a cutie. cest la vie.
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Yes, 200k was too little for that. 300k would have been fair and is the going rate for a Blok M short time these days. However, if she had really agreed to all night, then I think you did the right thing. The problem is that it's hard to say what the mamasan communicated to her. Those women aren't really mamasans there, they are just old scrags hanging around trying to make some extra bucks by pushing some girls on you. They don't really have an affiliation with those girls. I seriously doubt she was happy with the 200k as you mentioned. But she must have had a regular customer calling her to meet him at Bats if she was saying she had to go there. I wonder what she'd have said if you volunteered to accompany her to Bats. LOL!
Of the 200k you gave her, it would cost her 30k for taxi and 70k entry fee to Bats. So she's down to 100k. If she doesn't meet a guy there, the taxi home is another 30k so she basically comes out with almost nothing. That last 70k is just enough to buy some noodles for lunch and dinner then get a taxi back to the Blok again. 200k doesn't go far in Jakarta these days. 5 years ago it did, but not anymore.
500k is high end for the Blok. 400k for all night is fair.
To get to the Blok next time, tell the taxi driver:
"Jalan Felatehan, Blok M" (it's really Pelatehan, but they pronounce it with an F sound for the most part.)
Hi Rgbburn,
Interesting adventure about Blok M, last time I was in JKT I used the busway to get to Blok M first so that I would have an idea where it was. This way I could then direct the taxi when they seem to be going around in circles.
As for your LT/ST issues had similar experience in Bangkok. Some advice next time make sure that they know that it's less money if they leave early. More than likely they will then stay until the required time.
If they think that you are a sucker they will skip out on you early and ask for the full fee. Guess they are the same in JKT as in BKK.
Did you manage to revisit CJ's? From what I read it's a hopping place but I guess timing is everything.
you had better luck than me. the one and only time i got a massage at the atlet the woman was ugly and offered fs for us$100. no thanks. and that was around 2002 when a dollar was still worth something. .
[quote=rgbburn]stayed first night at century atlet, got in around 2pm. called the spa to see if they could send someone up for a massage, 90 minutes was 150k. 10 minutes later she shows up, not a hottie, but pleasant looking, wearing the hotel uniform. she did not say a word, i stripped and she got down to the best damned massage, truly a massage therapist. after massaging every part of me except the package, she started massaging the eggs and then (finally speaking) pointed to my cock and said "massage"? sure sweetie as there were 10 minutes left. good hj followed. after she went to the bathroom to wash, came out and i handed her the 15k + 10k as tip as the hj was not expected. nice way to start my vacation in jakarta! what was interesting was how little communication there was, she said maybe 3 words. all women should talk this much![/blue][/size][/quote]
[quote=travel fox]kartika, berlian etc.
took a walk down these lanes and peeked in several of these establishments but i was somewhat appalled at some of the ladies. i mean, who is taking these ladies? there were a few fresh cuties in a few of the establishments but i was hard pressed to make a decision in any of these places. i wanted to try hotel travel and mtr but never found these places because of nightfall. i mean you can probably have a good time here but i did not see the value over tc. maybe i will try them next time out. these establishments are right off of the busway line so you can get the busway almost right there. i think someone mentioned sawah besar as the busway stop. i just look-see’d all of them but some of the girls did not seem real enthused about their jobs or my presence especially in the smaller places. i think i was at the places off of hyam wuruk. i took mangga besar over (i walked believe it or not from mangga dua mall) to hyam wuruk. i think some guys tried to call me into the lane with the other houses while on mangga besar but i kept going for some reason. you will see a bakery maybe “holland” i don’t remember it saying swiss. it is a tall towering bakery with a sign on it from “some country in europe” on the corner or near the corner of mangga besar and hyam wuruk, or was it mangga dua? you know you are in the region when you see that bakery, then start peeking in alleys…
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just to add my own experience of looking for these places that i'd read so much about.
i picked up a bluebird outside my hotel (ibis mangga dua) and showed the driver the address i had printed out ready for just this situation. lots of discussion with his colleagues suggested that he didn't know where i wanted to go. at this point i mentioned bakery suisse and the penny seemed to drop with one of his mates who chattered to my driver and we were on our way. i don't remember how long the journey was but i eventually saw a sign that suggested that we were on the jalan hayam wuruk and i started to keep an eye out.
suddenly a shop sign for bakery suisse passed through my view and i called the driver to stop. i ascertained that we were indeed in hayam wuruk and told him we had passed the bakery. it turned out that he had been directed by his mate to the holland bakery. any way i paid and started the search.
we had passed 2 or 3 alleys since i had seen the bakery suisse and as i couldn't remember whether the directions i had read on this board talked of an alley to the left or right of the bakery i looked in all of them.
some of these alleys are not the best advertisement for jakarta or indonesia and i felt like a fish out of water but kept looking.
i eventually came back to the bakery suisse but this is a much smaller establishment than i had expected and it is set back under the overhanging first floor of the building and quite difficult to see with all the street vendors out front.
as you look at the bakery the alley with kartika in is directly on your left and the kartika sign can be seen from the main road at the end and on the right of the fairly short alley.
hope this helps some other kartika newbie. report of visit to follow.
sk
(My trip was 6 July to 16 July but I couldn’t report immediately on my return as I took ill on my flight from Singapore to London with what turned out to be food poisoning and ended up in hospital in the UK)
Landed at CGK Saturday morning. I had planned to try the advice from an earlier post about approaching single girls at the airport but my over generous colleagues provided a car and driver which were waiting for me. This is even though I am here on holiday and won’t be working for more than 1 day.
One negative to report. This my first time arriving on a Saturday and if the queues for Visa and immigration are likely to be as long in the next time I will be avoiding similar itineraries in the future.
I kept my spirits up by listening to a Norwegian guy who had a sense of humour failure when he discovered that he needed to buy a visa and didn’t have any cash with him. Bizarrely he was married to a Jakarta girl. His excuse was that it was some years since he had been there.
Lesson to all potential visitors though… have your USD ready when you arrive. $10 for max 7 days stay, $25 for max 30 days (all you old hands out there can sit back and suck your eggs until I’ve finished this bit).
Ever since a travelling companion of mine got stung for a $50 backhander by the immigrassi I try and make sure I’ve only got enough USD to get the visa and carry limited amounts of other currency.
Back to the Norwegian, he paid by credit card eventually but it was fun watching the panic develop.
Anyway, got dropped at my hotel Ibis Mangga Dua and said I wouldn’t need the car for the rest of the day.
The Ibis is not in the same league as my usual hotel, Shangri La but as I’m paying it’ll suffice. I booked a bigger bed/room so I could have more space to entertain and I’ve ended up with what they call a suite but it is more like an apartment. Kitchen, dining room, lounge and extra bathroom. It’s a 20 minute walk to answer the door!
After getting settled I headed off for my first ‘pop’ of the holiday. After my last trip I had determined that I would make straight for the Delta Spa at Kelapa Gading and have a repeat performance with No 64, Cartika. A bit of an indulgence really as I had no idea if she would be there and I had noticed that there was a Delta Spa real close to my hotel.
A bluebird from the front of the hotel got me to Kelapa Gading and eventually, with my help, we found the spa.
I picked up my wristband and said I wanted to go straight up to the massage area and not use the spa facilities. When I got there I could see number 64 on the board but when I asked I was told she was still working and I would have to wait for 20 minutes. Should give me time for my first Bintang.
I only had a couple of mouthfuls of my beer though before I was directed to my room. I’d chosen the suite option with 3 sessions at 425k rupiah. Although I was freshly showered from the hotel I thought it right to have a room with a shower. Apparently not a view shared by Cartika who after recognising me from my last trip got straight into the massage.
This girl really is the sweetest personality. She was singing to herself whilst doing her job and chattering away in bahasa even though she knows I don’t speak much. After the hot rocks she lay down beside me and started to snuggle which was the biggest turn on.
As we were on our sides and she was pressing into me it didn’t take long for her to sense my growing hard-on (all natural for this session) and she started to play with my little bro.
During our previous session she had been reluctant to allow me anything other than an over the clothing grope of her tits but this time it didn’t take long before I had shirt and bra undone and those magnificent, firm, young tits were cupped in my eager hands. The stiffened nipples were fantastic and tended to the European norm rather than the Asian pencil erasers. She wouldn’t let me take them in my mouth though.
With the massage forgotten play soon developed into another spectacular combination dry hump and HJ which resulted in my violent and exquisite release of stored up protein which she made sure was completely milked out of me.
I am determined that this girl will eventually agree to see me outside of the Spa and that we (or at least I) will enjoy the full act. She is so expert at the HJ and dry hump keeping me on the verge of cumming for so long that I am sure she will be a memorable fuck. Language is proving a bit ofa barrier as my Bahasa is more limited than her English which is minimal. Next time I will be armed with my English-Indo, Indo-English kamus. I’ll keep you posted on my progress on my next Trip.
After she lovingly cleaned me up we lay and cuddled for a bit which was very GFE with Cartika gently stroking and caressing my cock and balls while giving my face and torso little kisses. Towards the end of the session time I was treated to an assisted shower, cleaned up and got back into my street clothes. She walked me back to the public area and I slipped a tip into her hand as we parted.
Down to the cashier I paid the bill and asked for a Bluebird to take me to the Hotel Melawi (report to follow).
[QUOTE=Sapperken]Just to add my own experience of looking for these places that I'd read so much about.
I picked up a Bluebird outside my hotel (Ibis Mangga Dua) and showed the driver the address I had printed out ready for just this situation. Lots of discussion with his colleagues suggested that he didn't know where I wanted to go. At this point I mentioned Bakery Suisse and the penny seemed to drop with one of his mates who chattered to my driver and we were on our way. I don't remember how long the journey was but I eventually saw a sign that suggested that we were on the Jalan Hayam Wuruk and I started to keep an eye out.
Suddenly a shop sign for Bakery Suisse passed through my view and I called the driver to stop. I ascertained that we were indeed in Hayam Wuruk and told him we had passed the bakery. It turned out that he had been directed by his mate to the Holland Bakery. Any way I paid and started the search.
We had passed 2 or 3 alleys since I had seen the Bakery Suisse and as I couldn't remember whether the directions I had read on this board talked of an alley to the left or right of the bakery I looked in all of them.
Some of these alleys are not the best advertisement for Jakarta or Indonesia and I felt like a fish out of water but kept looking.
I eventually came back to the Bakery Suisse but this is a much smaller establishment than I had expected and it is set back under the overhanging first floor of the building and quite difficult to see with all the street vendors out front.
As you look at the bakery the alley with Kartika in is directly on your left and the Kartika sign can be seen from the main road at the end and on the right of the fairly short alley.
Hope this helps some other Kartika newbie. Report of visit to follow.
SK[/QUOTE]If going by Taxi ask to go to Terminal Bayangan Olimo. It is a bus terminal on the south east corner of Jl Hayam Wuruk and Jl Mangabesar. There you can see the bakery. Kartika and Berlian are located in the lane next to the bakery.
Excuse this first "virgin" posting from the veteran mongerers, such as the infamous John Aldrich (I bumped into your friend Sunny from Exxon, whilst transiting from Singapore to UK not so long ago!), Smoothy, Knight 1001, Rainman, 1Ball, Joel Goodson, Sapperken and last but not least, Mighty Spearsman.
Would like to meet up with any/all of you, logistics permitting, so we can exchange comical anecdotes on 2nd, 3rd, or 4th August 2007! Maybe Sportsman on jalan Paletehan around 7-8pm?
This forum is magnificent, and has to be applauded.
It would be a travesty of sexual justice and sharing vital adult knowledge to the discerning travellers amongst us, or simply those who wish to be educationally empowered, trying to deal with the most confusing race - women!
This forum dispenses very accurate (and updated) sexual, medical, touristic, moral and emotional advice.
Bravo Jackson - for the brainchild of this forum.
Having not visited fair Jakarta (and Bali) for a while - it would be great to meet up with such an intelligent diversity of opinion from those discerning menfolk, and would value catching up with the current "cuching liar pulse"!!
Cheers - please confirm.
[QUOTE=Morepoonhound]I don’t think AFF is a scam. Hard-sell marketing for sure, and lots of annoying pop-up’s to up-sell and cross-sell even after you buy a paid membership. But the basic product of people actively seeking sex is for real.
I can’t comment on AFF in the United States because I play only in Asia, and mostly in Indonesia. But I can tell you for sure that AFF Malaysia and Thailand are both excellent sources for freebies, and I plan to try Vietnam within the next month. Stay tuned and stay grateful that Indonesian women are as hot as they are. Treat them all well, because they do share stories about us.
Hope that helps, fellow seekers.
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Great post Poonhound. I am a regular AFF member and I've scored a few freebies that I've met online there.
[QUOTE=Sapperken]One negative to report. This my first time arriving on a Saturday and if the queues for Visa and immigration are likely to be as long in the next time I will be avoiding similar itineraries in the future.
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One way to avoid standing in the queue is to approach one of the Immigration Officers standing on the right-hand side. In fact, when they see you walking towards them, they will come up to you to ask what you need.
Make sure you have Rp 50,000 in between the pages of your passport, and say, "Minta tolong, Pak." He will flick through the pages, see the money, and ask you to walk through and wait, while he goes into one of the rooms and gets your passport stamped. It used to be very rampant previously, and stopped for about a year, but it seems this "special service" is back, as I made use of it just last month.
Being a regular visitor, I have made it a habit of putting money in my passport when I go in, AND when I leave (even when I queue up). It prevents the hassles of being continually asked what I am doing making so many trips to Jakarta.
It's amazing the change in their attitude once they see the money, and even the female officers (some of whom are quite pretty!) flash a smile.
Best,
Panya
Panya,
the visa booth is different from the immigration booth, did you approach the immigration booth without getting the visa 1st, or did you get a visa 1st then sli[ the Rp50.000 at the immigration booth.
I wouldn't wanna line up for the visa, is there a quick way?
DN
Selamat pagi everyone. Thanks for the AR info. I am getting ready to fly to Jakarta, and have a question about cell phones. I would like to buy one at Pasaraya mall. Is there a good place to buy an inexpensive cell phone that uses a phone card for adding time? How much? I don't want to buy a monthly subscription as I will only be there for a few weeks, and I don't want to spend lots of money. Just enough to call my girlfriends. Thanks in advance for your advice.
Hi MPH,
Thanks a heap. That was quite informative
And from someone who has actually benefited. Looks like i will now view AFF in a new light.
Cheers
[QUOTE=Morepoonhound]I don’t think AFF is a scam. Hard-sell marketing for sure, and lots of annoying pop-up’s to up-sell and cross-sell even after you buy a paid membership. But the basic product of people actively seeking sex is for real.
I have said a couple of times that we are all damn lucky to be playing in Indonesia, whether at the 5-star-hotel hooker bars or the Kota knock-shops or at Blok-M. I think that good luck carries over into AdultFriendFinder, especially if you are a bule.
Go back through the past several screens worth of messages and read what Mangga and Mandiri and Pak Mike (maybe some others also) have to say. I agree with what they have said about the motivations and behavior of the wanita jelita (lovely ladies). But here is my similar story.
I have met dozens of women from Jakarta that I found on AFF in the 4 months since I bought a membership, which costs me around US$12 per month. There are more expensive options for membership, but I went with the budget-ticket. Dozens means more than 30 ladies for those of you keen on miscellaneous details (grin).
Only one woman asked me for money. That was for her taxi fare, which I usually offer anyway, unless I have reason to believe that my friend is very well-heeled and may be offended by the offer. Depending on where the lady lives in relation to my central-Jakarta hotel, I give anywhere from 50k to 150k for taxi on my own initiative. Menteng gets 50k, and Bogor or Bekasi gets 150k, if you wonder how I decide, but I’m not perfect on my knowledge of greater Jakarta geography. Only the one woman (a classy 40-something Sundanese sales promoter) asked for it, and she asked by sms before she ever got into the taxi to come see me.
And just like some others have reported, a few women were shocked (borderline offended) that I offered them even taxi money. One that I gave 100k to gave me back 80k smiling sweetly and telling me that her parking at the hotel was only 20k. She had driven herself there, same as a paediatrician (yes, a medical doctor), a university lecturer, and a couple of wealthy tai-tais (married wives). They all have their own cars, and good jobs. This is one reason they like bules. Less chance that we will be patients or ex-students, or spouses of neighbors, etc.
Two weeks ago I had a three-some (yes, there are also women who hunt in pairs on AFF under the category “couples: 2 women”) Life is really too good in Indonesia (full smile). One was an older engineer (late 30’s) and her friend was a secretary (20-something). After a really fantastic session, I slipped 50k each into their pockets (for taxi-mu). While the younger one was in the toilet putting on lipstick, the older one handed me back my 50k, telling me that it was nice of me, but that I should give only to the younger one because her salary isn’t so high. Implicit message was “I have my pride”. Incidentally, I did her again, by herself, over her lunch hour the very next day. Wonderful!
For the sceptics reading this, there are definitely some women who are hooking for dollars or SugarDaddies on the AFF site, and their profiles say so explicitly. The code words are “looking for generous men”, or “take me shopping”, or “want to be treated as a courtesan”. My guesstimate is that maybe 1 out of 15 or 1 out of 20 profiles are like this, at least explicitly. Single digit percentage only, and I simply avoid those women. Many more may well be open to the cash-for-gash trade-off, but we all know how sweet the women can be, even though they may not have much money. When I want to pay (which is still often – grin), then I prefer to call one of my done-her-before “sure thing” professional friends, or go look for fresh pussy myself at BATS or D’s Place.
Finally, for those of you convinced that AFF is a scam in terms of the site itself ripping you off, I think that is nonsense. Sure they charge a fee, and if you are worried about not being able to cancel your credit card, just send them a money-order like I do. I can’t risk any unexplained charges on my cards because my wife vets the bills carefully. Still not persuaded, then do an internet search on AdultFriendfinder, or on the founder, Andrew Conru. Even the Wall Street Journal has been writing about how “Adult” dating sites flourish all over the world as people choose sex over love. Good for all of us friends of Jackson (smile again). Remember we are here to share experiences about meeting women for sex. Not only meeting women that we pay for sex. Hubba-hubba!
I can’t comment on AFF in the United States because I play only in Asia, and mostly in Indonesia. But I can tell you for sure that AFF Malaysia and Thailand are both excellent sources for freebies, and I plan to try Vietnam within the next month. Stay tuned and stay grateful that Indonesian women are as hot as they are. Treat them all well, because they do share stories about us.
Hope that helps, fellow seekers.
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It's easy to get a second hand cellphone (they call them hand phones in Jakarta or "hp's", pronounced "ha pay"), also they refer to used ones as just "seconds". You can find loads of them in Ambassador mall and numerous other places. Generally they are quite cheap as they are still such a fashion accessory that as soon as new model comes, the old ones are worthless.
If you have an old US or UK one which only works on a specific network you can get them unblocked in Ambassador so they take local SIM card .
Thanks Bulai. Is Ambassador near to Pasaraya? I know there is a lower quality mall behind Pasayara. I don't know what its called. It would be fun to hook up with you, or other pooners, while I am there. Anyone interested in going to Blok M?
Dear friends,
I have just arrived in Jakarta and need help to sort out some basic need:) Wonder is there any fellow mongers can help for an overnighter. Please provide number. Will provide field report later on.
Thanks
As you appear to have access to internet, here are links to maps which will show you where Ambassador Mall and Roxymas mall are located. Any dumb taxi driver, half blind and deaf, would get you there. The problem may be where you'll want to go after that .....
Ambassador Mall:
[url]http://www.streetdirectory.com/indonesia/jakarta/travel.php?travel_id=136&travel_site=42&travel_no=&x=702073.6500&y=9311707.1900&star=1&viewmode=&level=6#map[/url]
On the other hand, the shopping mall behind Pasaraya is called Malawai plaza and they have an upper (3rd ?) floor where I have seen some scarce shops selling phones and phone cards. I wouldn't go there for buying a phone.
Go to either Ambassador mall or ITC Roxy Mas (Shopping Mall), which is so big and packed with only phone shops, it will get you dizzy.
[url]http://www.streetdirectory.com/indonesia/jakarta/travel/travel_id_129/travel_site_106/travel_no_No.+125/[/url]
If you want to meet up, post the time and place here and the bros who can make it will find you.
Cheers.
[QUOTE=Samchad]Thanks Bulai. Is Ambassador near to Pasaraya? I know there is a lower quality mall behind Pasayara. I don't know what its called. It would be fun to hook up with you, or other pooners, while I am there. Anyone interested in going to Blok M?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Samchad]Selamat pagi everyone. Thanks for the AR info. I am getting ready to fly to Jakarta, and have a question about cell phones. I would like to buy one at Pasaraya mall. Is there a good place to buy an inexpensive cell phone that uses a phone card for adding time? How much? I don't want to buy a monthly subscription as I will only be there for a few weeks, and I don't want to spend lots of money. Just enough to call my girlfriends. Thanks in advance for your advice.[/QUOTE]
Although all the suggestions for places like Ambassador and Roxy Mas are completely accurate in that they are the cheapest place to buy a phone, you can buy a 2nd hand phone at Pasa Raya itself quite easily as well. As long as you are just looking for a cheap model, it won't make alot of difference where you pick it up. They sell them in the bottom level of Pasa Raya opposite Ace Hardware. I bought mine at Blok M plaza which is a mall fairly close to Pasa Raya. Brand new, mine cost 400,000 rupiah. But I bought one of the older model nokias with no camera functionality. You can find them for upwards of 5 million, and if that's what you're looking for then definitely go to Ambassador or Roxy Mas.
Hi,
I need to take a client to a massage place for a massage and a fuck -- he wants that.The fuck needs to be clear from the start (ie no situation where it's hit or miss and my client gets to fuck if the girl is willing). I need a high-end place where we can have jacuzzi/pool etc prior to the "main course".
I have RTFF and I know places like Hotel Travel (no jacuzzi/pool section if I recall correctly), Delta (can't remember if they have a package with guaranteed screw). Berlian and Kartika are just too low-end for him.
What would you guys suggest if you too were to take a high-end client with you to a high-end massage place with a guaranteed massage+fuck in a clean environment ?
Many thanks in advance,
[QUOTE=Dick Nasty]I wouldn't wanna line up for the visa, is there a quick way?DN[/QUOTE]
Hi,
I also often used a guy who works at the Golden Bird taxi counter, where for Rp 100,000 per head, he can meet you/guests from the plane and escort you through Immigration. I have sent him an sms on whether he can handle the "Visa On Arrival" so that you won't have to queue up, and how much he would charge.
Will PM you on his reply.
Best,
Panya
High End with Packages and nice Spa facilities
1) Beverly Hills Spa near Stasion Kota
2) Sumo in Kelapa Gading
3) Emporium near Pasar Baru
4) Classics Spa also near Pasar Baru
5) Marioboro on Hayum Wuruk has awesome facilities and lots of great selection in an upscale environment. But while the sex is gauranteed the massage isn't!
6) Alexis Hotel
I am sure there are others as well.
Stay away from Delta if you looking for full service. I am sure a few big swinging dicks will claim to get it there, but it is definitely not on the stadard menu.
[QUOTE=Mandiri]Hi,
I need to take a client to a massage place for a massage and a fuck -- he wants that.The fuck needs to be clear from the start (ie no situation where it's hit or miss and my client gets to fuck if the girl is willing). I need a high-end place where we can have jacuzzi/pool etc prior to the "main course".
I have RTFF and I know places like Hotel Travel (no jacuzzi/pool section if I recall correctly), Delta (can't remember if they have a package with guaranteed screw). Berlian and Kartika are just too low-end for him.
What would you guys suggest if you too were to take a high-end client with you to a high-end massage place with a guaranteed massage+fuck in a clean environment ?
Many thanks in advance,[/QUOTE]
I have sms-ed my Golden Bird contact and this is what he can do:
1. Let him know in advance via sms your arrival date/time/flight number. Please be informed that he works in shifts, and there are many Golden Bird counters where he can be stationed --so some advance arrangement is needed.
2. On your arrival, there are escalators/steps that you go down after disembarking from your plane. He will be waiting for you at the bottom of the steps with your name on a sheet of paper.
3. He will walk with you to the "Visa On Arrival", take your documents and deal directly with the Immigration Officer without having to queue. While this is being done, you will wait for him nearby the "Visa On Arrival" counter.
4. After that, he will walk with you to the Immigration counter where he will "clear" you through, and you wait for him near the smoking area/toilet entrance. He will handle the Immigration formalities for you.
For this, he would like to charge RP 150,000 per head (he claims that he has to give at least Rp 100k to the officers at both counters). For those who are interested, you can send me a PM, and I will provide his name and mobile phone number. For god's sake, don't even for a minute think I am getting a commission out of this!!
I find that the downside of this arrangement is that sometimes there are NO QUEUES at all when you arrive, but you will still have to pay him for showing up! :(
DICK NASTY --> I pay the RP 50,000 at the Immigration counter, as I don't need a Visa On Arrival, being Malaysian.
Best,
Panya
[QUOTE=Mongerxx]High End with Packages and nice Spa facilities
1) Beverly Hills Spa near Stasion Kota
2) Sumo in Kelapa Gading
3) Emporium near Pasar Baru
4) Classics Spa also near Pasar Baru
5) Marioboro on Hayum Wuruk has awesome facilities and lots of great selection in an upscale environment. But while the sex is gauranteed the massage isn't!
6) Alexis Hotel
I am sure there are others as well.
Stay away from Delta if you looking for full service. I am sure a few big swinging dicks will claim to get it there, but it is definitely not on the stadard menu.[/QUOTE]Thanks a lot, I appreciate it Will report back.
[QUOTE=Smoothy]If you are going for the fat, ugly ones, I don't think there's much need to use AFF. Just go to any bar and take one home. I'm sure they'd be more than happy to accomodate you. There's an old comedy bit by Andrew Dice Clay where he says "with diseases and women's attitudes today, sex is too much trouble". So his plan is to find the fattest, ugliest mutt in the bar and take her home. Some chick nobody else has even thought of fuckin'. He says that type of girl really appreciates the sex and will do anything to please you. And you have little to no chance of catching any disease.
I don't subscribe to that theory, but it's a theory.[/QUOTE]Great post, Smoothy. You may be right that the "plus-size" women are abundant out there (grin), but they are also very well represented on AFF – even in Indonesia.
I am not willing to post a photo of myself on AFF, so in the spirit of "do unto others", neither do I ask to see a photo of my prospective partners first. Not that it matters, as my story will make plain, but meeting women who are "living large" is one of the natural hazards of the AFF lifestyle.
I’m not sure which of lying about age or lying about weight is number-1 versus number-2, but while I don’t really care how old a woman is if she is well-turned-out, I damn-sure care how fat a woman is. So, yes I have met a 50-year-old woman pretending to be 34 who was hot enough that I invited her to my hotel room to do the deed. But I draw the line at giving the dick to a 100 kg woman pretending to be 100 pounds.
Which reminds me of an old joke: How do you know when your girlfriend is too fat? When she sits on your face and you can’t hear the stereo. (ba dum pum)
AFF has a profile question about body-type which includes desirable (for me) types like slim/petite, average and athletic. Also one border-line type called "a little extra padding", and two out-of-bounds types (again, out-of-bounds only for me) called ample and large. It turns out they need two other types called "I’m a total hog" and "I’m bigger than a fucking whale", because I have met women at least that size who must not have answered correctly, since ample and large didn’t really do justice to their great-round-mound shapes.
Although I "also" don’t subscribe to Smoothy’s theory (see his quoted message above), I know there are a fair-few fella’s who believe that "the bigger the cushion, then the better the pushin", so I offer a straight-up tip for the chubby-chasers among the readers here. The tip is that there are many plus-size women on AFF. Lots of them say they are heavy quite honestly, and the larger ladies often also have large sex-drives. Here is an example, with verbatim language from a profile of a lady who contacted me just last week. No, I didn’t do the deed with her, guys! But as you can see, she is ready and willing if YOU want to go for it. Her handle says "sweet, sexy, passionate, exotic bit**", and her profile includes pictures of some disturbingly large breasts, queen-size pillows really, as well as a naked shot of her shaved slit with a dildo inserted in her ass. Read all about it below, with original typo's left unchanged.
BEGIN QUOTE: "I m a horny woman I m big in size and I m not ashamed of that I have big boops big round ass I have a exotic sweet face I love to have fun go crazy sometimes I love to suck the dick lick the balls I love long foreplays lots of kissing licking and sucking and fingering I love to be fucked doggy style while you spank my ass and call me real dirty names my fantasy is to be blindfolded tied and helpless so you guys out there if interested just mail me wi will respond.
Looking for a guy a lover shorterm onenightstand longterm is ok who is nice sweet kind romantic and don't mind big girls who likes to have fun who likes big sexy sluts like me funny a guy who can accept my body size and who don't care as long as we both have fun and go wild love lots of foreplay before penetration lets have fun to the utmost go out for lunches and cofee sumtimes hot wild sex I like ffm I wanna try mmf please mail me I will respond to you. " END QUOTE:
Why do I say that even checking their pictures doesn’t ensure that you won’t meet the BBW’s? Because one woman I met had a lovely, full-face shot with an athletic-looking bare upper arm showing on her profile. Turns out the picture was really her, but a version of her dating back 35 kg earlier. A second woman I met sent me a stunning picture of a fox in a leather dress (not really my thing, but it still looked hot). Then a different woman than the photo turned up wearing a jilbab (I am dead serious) and sporting maybe 50 kg more than her ideal weight of 50 kg. There is more to "this" story, but I will save that for some other posting.
Which reminds me of another old joke: How do you fuck a fat chick? Just roll her flour and look for the wet spot. (loud groaning: ok, sorry, no more jokes then)
I have a couple more "tricked into meeting the actually-a-tubbo" stories, but maybe I had best save them for another post, since this message is overlong already. To close though, two points. First point, there are definitely many excellent, hot and sexy women on AFF Indonesia. Don’t worry, they are not all BBW’s. I had the rare treat of fucking three different ones yesterday who I would be willing to pay if I met them in a hooker-bar (that’s right, I’m bragging. Wouldn’t you be? ).
Second (and the main) point of this "chubby chaser" posting is that there are also many plus-size women on AFF Indonesia, they are mostly freebies, and they seem to be relatively easier to score with if livin’ large is your thing. It's not mine, but if you like to indulge, then please treat these ladies-looking-for-love nicely also, guys. At least offer to pay their taxi (the real cab-fare, not a euphemism for paying for sex).
Over the past few months much of my poon-chasing energy has shifted to the (amateur) women looking for sex on AFF. But that has more to do with not being able to afford to taste all the pussy I want on my never-enough poontang budget. Certainly nothing wrong with the sweet strumpets selling booty in the many places commented on so many times in this forum. AFF supplements my habit considerably (thank goodness), but I can't say that I have cut back much on spending for working girls.
I am less adventurous than some on this board, so I prefer the hotel hooker-bars to places like Jalan Jaksa, Stadium and TC. One of my favorite spots for take-away remains BATS at the ShangriLa. And even though there are definitely ladies looking for serious money there, it is still possible to find attractive and enthusiastic partners for 500k rupiah without too much trouble. Two better-than-average sweet-hearts that entertained me last month (different nights: not a 3-some, sadly) were called Nadia and Fatmawati.
Nadia is at BATS most nights and is relatively tall for a Javanese woman. Claims mid-20’s, and that may be right as she has a wonderful pair of soft and shapely breasts, probably a generous see-cup. Trimmed beaver, pretty face, and a fun and friendly partner, but she has trouble staying wet. Do an extended muff-dive (worked for me the first time) or plan to have some lubricant (second and third times, when I called her to come straight to my hotel), and you will still have a good time with Nadia. She is an educated lady and has a full-time sales job during the day now, but she has done the circuit, working in Singapore, HongKong and so on. Interestingly she prefers the bar at the Hyatt in Singapore, and won’t work Orchard Towers.
Fatma is a late-20's gym-bunny who belongs to Celebrity Fitness and hits the gym for several hours virtually every day. Dark-brown skin and an unconventionally attractive face. Flat as an airport runway, though she has lovely, sensitive nipples. Fatma has strikingly hot-looking legs, the sort of ass you might expect from so much investment in aerobics, and killer abs. She likes to drink hard, she fucks like the energizer bunny, and gave me a total GFE. I hadn’t seen her in BATS before, nor have I looked for her there since, because I thought to collect her phone number for repeat engagements without BATS benefiting from our cover charges.
Both ladies accepted 500k with a kiss and without discussion, and neither mentioned price before coming back to my hotel and rocking my world. I highly recommend both of these sweeties, gentlemen and you know exactly where to find them. Indonesia is so excellent!
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It's interesting that Morepoonhound mentions Celebrity Fitness in connection with his "girlfriend" from BATS; if she is regular there (there are 4 or 5 in Jakarta) then for sure she must have some "boyfriend" benefactor who is paying her regularly as it's unlikely she would be able/willing to fund membership on "only" 500k a session even if she was doing it every night.
This makes Celebrity Fitness centres, in my view, a good hunting ground for more upmarket girls. A lot of girls who go there (I'm thing mainly of eX) do so as much for posing and looking out for men to throw money at them as they do to keep fit though of course these activities are not unrelated.
Approaching girls there requires a more subtle approach than, for example, Atrium mall! I've had one (very good) girl from eX Celebrity Fitness in maybe 4 or 5 attempts by hanging around in the entrance area pretending I was waiting for someone and asking girls coming out if they had seen my (imaginary) friend inside. Pathetic I know: but it worked (20% of the time anyway)
[QUOTE=Rgbburn]I went to the Block M bars same evening. Had great trouble explaining to the (several) taxi drivers where I wanted to go. Block M they understood, they want to take me to the mall. I explain girlie bars, Top Gun, D's place. I make drinking sign with my hand, draw hourglass figure, say cewek. .........At one point one of the taxi drivers at the mall called over several other drivers, and we went around for several minutes on this. Finally one taxi driver spoke english with me and we figured it out.[/QUOTE]HAH, exactly what happened to me as well. Twice. :( Finally I just kept one of the business cards from Top Gun (aint married and don't care what others think I do for travel) for future reference.
Hmm it's fun buying pitchers of beer and have 3-5 girls there just baby you and drink with you.
[QUOTE=Bulai69]It's interesting that Morepoonhound mentions Celebrity Fitness in connection with his "girlfriend" from BATS; if she is regular there (there are 4 or 5 in Jakarta) then for sure she must have some "boyfriend" benefactor who is paying her regularly as it's unlikely she would be able/willing to fund membership on "only" 500k a session even if she was doing it every night.
This makes Celebrity Fitness centres, in my view, a good hunting ground for more upmarket girls. A lot of girls who go there (I'm thing mainly of eX) do so as much for posing and looking out for men to throw money at them as they do to keep fit though of course these activities are not unrelated.
Approaching girls there requires a more subtle approach than, for example, Atrium mall! I've had one (very good) girl from eX Celebrity Fitness in maybe 4 or 5 attempts by hanging around in the entrance area pretending I was waiting for someone and asking girls coming out if they had seen my (imaginary) friend inside. Pathetic I know: but it worked (20% of the time anyway)[/QUOTE]Bulai69,
I stand in awe. Here I am searching the line-up for women with athletic bodies (my favourite), in BATS or D’s Place or similar, and my hit-rate is maybe 1 in 20 on a good night and more like 1 in 40. You on the other hand, go straight to the source. Even if only half the women coming out of the gym have tight bodies, with your 1 in 5 success-rate, you are still working much better odds. You sir, are a hard-core hunter.
About eX, for those less familiar with Jakarta, Bulai is describing the Celebrity Fitness (CF) outlet at the extension (eX) mall attached to Plaza Indonesia. I haven’t mastered the art of the mall-hunt (yet – grin), but for sure eX has got heavy female traffic because of all the shops and restaurants. So waiting outside the CF entrance in the eX mall sounds like a strategy with good potential for straight mall-hunting as well as for the gym-bunny possibilities.
On whether a lady needs a sugar-daddy to afford CF membership, I think that is debateable because of what I just learned from another gym-bunny who fucked me almost senseless earlier this week. This is an amateur I found on AFF. 29 years old, and a single school-teacher living with her parents, who gets off work at 4, met me at 5 (I don’t get off so early – smile), and was naked by 5:10. Well, not "totally" naked. By 5:10 she had her panties off, her be-cup bra unhooked, her skirt up around her waist and my mouth fastened firmly on her well-trimmed and deliciously plump labia. It was probably more like 5:45 before she was "totally" naked, and she left a remarkably big wet patch on the chair in my hotel-room where we first got to know each other. The next guest better put down a towel (grin again). But I digress, so back to what I learned about CF.
Lia belongs to a CF outlet in South Jakarta and she spends 3 hours there after work, doing salsa or hip-hop dancing aerobics classes, on days when she isn’t doing horizontal bone-dancing with a fuck-buddy. We had time to talk during the 3+ hours she stayed and she really only has two hobbies. Working-out and fucking (Yay! ). She pays around 400k rupiah per month for her membership, but it turns out there are memberships from as low as 250k (no towels and shower at home) and ranging up to 900k per month (probably the sugar-daddy funded option).
So here is a tip for anyone with a short-term horizon, and thick enough skin to resist the relentless hard-sell of the CF staff. CF offers a 1-week free-trial, so if you find too many fellow poon-hunters crowding the entrance as a result of Bulai69’s great suggestion, you can move in to the gym itself to check out an aerobics class full of bunnies in full bounce.
Be careful in the shower if you join CF though. By reputation, CF is famously popular with gays. If you think about it, the presence of all those dick-smokers is another reason why you may do well to hunt there. Not much chance that the gays are going to be hitting on the gym-bunnies, so less (male) competition for you. My tip for all of you is that women who like to dance are usually enthusiastic about riding a dick as well. Bulai69 has told you where to go already, so please write and tell us all about your success stories.
[QUOTE=Morepoonhound]
Second (and the main) point of this "chubby chaser" posting is that there are also many plus-size women on AFF Indonesia, they are mostly freebies, and they seem to be relatively easier to score with if livin’ large is your thing. It's not mine, but if you like to indulge, then please treat these ladies-looking-for-love nicely also, guys. At least offer to pay their taxi (the real cab-fare, not a euphemism for paying for sex).[/QUOTE]
Spot on Morepoonhound, sums up my experiences on AFF so far to a tee. That place is heaving with seriously large nymphomaniacs! Yes I've made contact with a couple of regular sized ladies, some of which I am following up but I have to say for the most part the girls are supersized deluxe and they're not slow telling you how they want it. Who knew Jakarta was coming down (literally) with so many chubby (putting it mildly) sex fiends?
I have been promised all sorts of wild sex, you name your perversion they are up for it, with photos to prove it, but man I just can't bring myself to do it, I feel tempted but then I take another look at the pictures and I realise I could never go through with it.
As regards the payment option in my experience these girls might ask for taxi money if they're coming from Bekasi or Depok but by and large(sic) they just want the sex and the wilder the better. So if jumbo size sex is what you're into then AFF is your place to be.
[QUOTE=Dorman]Spot on Morepoonhound, sums up my experiences on AFF so far to a tee. That place is heaving with seriously large nymphomaniacs! Yes I've made contact with a couple of regular sized ladies, some of which I am following up but I have to say for the most part the girls are supersized deluxe and they're not slow telling you how they want it. Who knew Jakarta was coming down (literally) with so many chubby (putting it mildly) sex fiends?
I have been promised all sorts of wild sex, you name your perversion they are up for it, with photos to prove it, but man I just can't bring myself to do it, I feel tempted but then I take another look at the pictures and I realise I could never go through with it.
As regards the payment option in my experience these girls might ask for taxi money if they're coming from Bekasi or Depok but by and large(sic) they just want the sex and the wilder the better. So if jumbo size sex is what you're into then AFF is your place to be.[/QUOTE]Ah, dorman I laughed my ass off when I read your post. Been there (have not) done that. I was flat-out horrified by the size of one lady that it sounds like you have at least corresponded with. Conclusion: I ain’t sticking my harpoon in that. Oh my word! And the word i’m thinking of is whale, biiiig fucking whale. And with tits the size of an elephant!
So here is my story. Absolutely true because you can’t make stuff that is this frightening up, unless maybe you are stephen king. It may help to explain that there are a few features of aff that let you know someone is checking you out. One of these is the "who viewed you" log, and another is the "hotlist" feature. I use the hotlist to flag women whose profiles I am interested in for later contact, but evidently the fatties use the hotlist feature as an attempt to flirt with men they want to hear from.
One woman who features bum-slapping very prominently all over her profile (did she frighten you, too dorman? ) hotlisted me, and then viewed me daily for the better part of a week when I didn’t respond to her hotlist. Finally, she sent me an email full of really nasty things that she wanted to do to me and with me and to herself and with herself and (well, you get the picture).
When I checked out her profile, it was 5-star kinky while I top-out more around 2-star kinky. I draw the line at eating pussy and ffm three-somes. No bondage, no s&m, no role-playing, definitely no [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord119][CodeWord119][/url], no rimming, and on the couple of occasions when I ventured up to eden in Bangkok (thai travellers will be familiar), I didn’t make use of any of the toys on offer, other than the pussies, mouths and nipples, of course (grin). So against my better judgement, I wrote back to this woman and we exchanged several emails. To my surprise, she wrote well and sounded intelligent enough to be interesting.
One more warning sign was that for body-type, ms bum-slapper checked the "a little extra padding" box. Silly me, I assumed that a little extra padding would be on the order of 10 kg for an average sized woman, or maybe 15 kg for a tall (say 1. 75 m) woman like this lady claimed to be. I can live with that. It’s not my favourite type of female body, but so long as the lady is chubby rather than fat, I can still do her with a "chubby" of my own, using the school-boy euphemism for an erection.
As our story continues, I agreed to meet this queen of kink one night after a business dinner, around 10 pm. The up-side was that 10 is too late to attract most of the "good" girls from aff to start a date, and I figured if she was too terrible, then bats would be just warming up if I needed to punt on the freebie and score some professional-poon. The down-side was that at 10 pm the mall nearby my hotel is closed, so little choice but to meet in the hotel lobby and go straight to my room. Hmmmm. Danger, danger!
When I called her to confirm, just before I started my dinner function, she asked "do you want me to bring my toys? " what toys, I wanted to know. "oh, I have hand-cuffs and blind-fold and anal-beads, butt-plugs, dildos and a bullet. And I have chocolate body frosting". What the fuck! I should have guessed then when I learned that she likes toys with high calorie counts. Instead I said "the only toys I need are pussy-mu and nipples-mu, but knock yourself out, bring whatever you like for yourself. "
I hadn’t seen her photo. I explained in an earlier posting here, why that’s practically useless as a screening device anyway, and worst case you waste a little time on a meeting before saying "tidak terima-kasih" (no thank you). So she described what she would be wearing – a bright red top and black stretch pants.
She sms’d me from the taxi when she was near the hotel, and to my horror, when I reached the lobby to meet her, I ran into a former colleague who was waiting in the lobby for some friends to come down so they could go out drinking. Since that was a disaster in the making, I quickly zipped out to the taxi stand and crossed my fingers hoping that my "date" would turn up and I could sneak her in the back entrance before my "friends" trooped out the front. I’m a healthy guy, but this was not good for my blood pressure.
Oh my goodness! When she launched herself out of the taxi, the vehicle moved up about a good 10 inches. She was as big as a fucking house. I would guess 120 or maybe 130 kg easily. There should be a law against women her size wearing red. Much less stretch-pants! As she waddled towards me with that side-to-side rolling motion really fat people walk with, my blood pressure went to near heart-attack. The only saving grace was that if anyone saw me with her, there was no way they would think I was up to no good. Who on earth would fuck a woman that size. I mean really!
I quickly calculated the odds of a scene if I dumped her on first meeting, right there at the taxi-stand. I concluded that since she is so kinky, she would probably be loud and ugly about it. Oh yeah, I should mention that she was plenty ugly even with her mouth shut. I nearly swore off my poon habit right there. Hugely fat and truly ugly is not a good combination, gentlemen. In case any of you were wondering.
So I did the cowardly thing and said, "nice to meet you. Cepat, cepat, we have to go around the back way, karena barangkali my friends will see me. " and I snuck through the staff entrance and took her up to my room in the service lift, wondering how in the hell I get myself into these things.
Once in the room, I immediately said "look, I want to be straight with you. You are not my type, and I don’t want to have sex with you". Yes, I actually said those words to a female who was horny and in my hotel room (grin). Then, reverting to coward, "you write so well that I think we can still have an interesting conversation though. Mau minum? (would you like a drink? ). "
Yes, she did, and fortunately I buy orange juice by the litre at a mini-mart to stock my room refrigerator, or she would have cost me a fortune in mini-bar charges the way she drank. She must have drained 3 sizeable glasses of orange juice before I cut her off with "why not you finish your drink, and I will take you back downstairs now. "
We could have fun laughing about the stories she told me, between big gulps of juice. But I don’t want to spoil "all" the surprises for any chubby-chasers reading this who think she sounds like just their type (grin again). I will simply say that she is full of drama, and most of her stories involve more than one man at a time, and her taking it up the ass (just imagine the size of that ass. Yuck! )
That’s not all folks. After packing her safely off (I gave her 200k taxi fare just because I was so grateful to be rid of her whalishness), I headed to bats and had a very pedestrian fuck from a skinny-as-a-rail (can you blame me) lady called susie. Not recommended, but bats isn’t the point of this story anyway. The point is that at 2 am, my simpati beeped an incoming message. Since I was still awake on the tail-end of susie (pun intended), I read the sms. Of course it was from my fat not-friend, saying "i just wrote you an email, please check".
I left the email for morning, expecting to see "thank you for being such a gentleman". Instead, I was astounded to read a full-page worth of scolding and anger along the lines of "you broke your promise. I was so horny and I was counting on having fun. But you broke your promise to enjoy with me. Yadda yadda yadda. "
So gentlemen, dorman is right. If super-sized deluxe sex-fiends are your thing, sign right up for aff. By the way, dorman, mangga, pak mike, mandiri and I (have I left anyone out? ) already have dibs on the slim/petite and athletic women on aff indonesia, of which there are actually plenty, truth be told. But if bbw’s are your thing fellas, sink your harpoon into one of these whales and then be sure to tell us all the story, right here.
Great site, jackson! I find this hugely entertaining, besides being a wonderful source of tips for chasing poon. Thank you very much.
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All this talk of larger ladiesmade me remeber something I saw the otherday I laughed my tits off... If it offends anyone... sorry.
PS I apologise for the small size of the file, beyond my control
PS I apologise for the small size of the file, beyond my control[/QUOTE]
Only one question: Did the guy survive?? :-))))
Lemon Tree
who knows why he prefers Thai ladies.
No, this story is NOT about a woman who weighs over 120 kg. But since there have been several posts recently about finding freebies on AFF, I thought it useful to share this story:
A few weeks ago I was in Kota one weekday on business. Around 4:15 p.m. I walked over to the Transjakarta’s bus line at Kota to take the bus to Plaza Indonesia.
Walking in front of me to the ticket line and waiting line was an attractive, professionally dressed dark-skinned Indonesian woman in her late 30s, medium build, long black hair, wearing a jacket over a silk shirt buttoned up to her neck, a skirt to just below her knees and “work pumps” heels (i.e. not the stiletto heels that many hookers wear), but it was obvious that she had great legs and a good figure.
We struck up a conversation while waiting in line, friendly and polite, and I learned that she was a sales manager for a large insurance company, and that she was returning to her office after having met with a client.
Walked onto the bus and sat down towards the front, and to my surprise she sat down next to me and continued to talk, very friendly; she gave me her card and asked me for my cell phone number just before I got off the bus. Five minutes later I received a short sms from her, saying that she enjoyed talking with me and wanted to meet me again for a drink. I replied “fine, let me know when you are free.” Two days later, she sms’d me again, proposing that we meet at Chili’s (Sarinah Plaza) for drinks the following afternoon.
Met up at Chili’s at 4 p.m. the next day and, after some small talk about the weather and traffic, she got straight to the point – she was married with a nine-year-old son, but that the marriage had collapsed, she and her husband were living together only for the sake of their son, she no longer had sex with her husband, and that she was looking for someone to have fun sex with, namely me. Sounded good to me, and I started to look forward to our first session together.
Then the kicker. After saying lots of nice things about me as a way of explaining why she had picked me for this opportunity, she blurted out “I think you’re just wonderful. I’ve already told my nine-year-old son about you and I want you to meet him soon and be a role model for him.”
Oops! The last thing I need is to get involved in a potential marriage-wrecking situation, nor do I need or want to be a surrogate father to someone else’s kid. Luckily my cell phone beeped a minute later with an sms from a friend, I read it and, pretending that it was from my office, said “sorry, I have to get back to my office right away to send a fax to the U.S. before closing time,” left money to pay for the drinks and got up and left.
I then sent an sms to her later explaining that I was real busy at work and wouldn’t be able to see her anytime soon. She then sent a couple of sms’s over the next week saying hello and which I ignored, then I’ve never heard from her again.
[QUOTE=David_33]That´s the feeling I got when reading the other posts regarding this situation. But is it worth the hassle of canceling the trip? I only need one girl a day since I´m not a stud like Menteng or the Mighty Spearsman. I also prefer action in my hotel to going to discos, etc., although it would be nice to see some night time action.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the compliment, however most days "once a king always a king, but once a knight is enough."
Please don't despair, as Smoothy and XXL pointed out, there's still a decent amount of action to be had here in Jakarta during Ramadan, between mall-hunting, out-call visits to hotels and at least a couple of massage parlors still open (e.g. I received a great massage and BJ from a non-Muslim female at Fortune Spa during Ramadan last year).
And I noticed that you have well over 1,100 posts on ISG, so frankly you deserve the highest respect and service from the resident senior members who live here in Jakarta. I personally promise to give you the cell phone numbers of Cynthia and several other cuties who I know would be more than happy to come to your hotel. So please don't cancel your visit!
PLEASE if you find a way to make it bigger PLEASE don't post it! That's really not my kind of body and I was having my tea when I openned it!
Morepoonhound - thanks for the compliment but honestly, it's not hard to do. As for membership rates I'm sure you are correct, my comments were based on what I know a few people are paying which is circa 1 million as you say for the "top end" membership. You are also correct about the predisposition of gays to join CF: again I'm referring to eX. I know several (friends of my "girlfriends") who go there but to be honest I would see be-friending them more as an asset than a liability because they can be a very good source of introductions to girls who would otherwise be much harder to find. I've even had virgins (well one anyway and another in the pipeline so to speak) from such a source as many who know me could confirm.
One thing I have to ask you - no offence - but why is your "hit rate" in BATS so low!? It's been posted in here a few times that circa 70% of the girls in there are hookers so if your hit rate is on average 1 in 30 it means if my arithmetic is correct, even when you try to score with a hooker, you fail to score 95% of the time! Surely not?!
You are just so charming I can imagine why that women wanted you as a role model! Likewise I can understand why you backed out - but I think this is a situation where Pak Menteng might be prepared to "help out" - getting her another "role model" would de-risk the situation for you I think.
I am making my way back to Jakarta late August.
I usually come early in the year but this year I will be coming later.
Can anyone tell me if there are any holidays or festivals that may interfere with mongering in late August early September.
I don't want to arrive and find the place dead.
By the way had a recent trip to Tanjong Balai Karim and it was excellent. Prices are lower and girls are just as good but the only thing to do there is drink, bonk and eat.
[QUOTE=Morepoonhound]Ah, dorman I laughed my ass off when I read your post. Been there (have not) done that. I was flat-out horrified by the size of one lady that it sounds like you have at least corresponded with. Conclusion: I ain’t sticking my harpoon in that. Oh my word! And the word i’m thinking of is whale, biiiig fucking whale. And with tits the size of an elephant!
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That is unquestionably the funniest report I have ever read on this forum and also the most frightening.
Your description of the meeting at the front of the hotel had me in tears laughing and the way you asked yourself how you get into these situations must have struck a chord with all the guys here who've let themselves get into situations where a future of life time celibacy seemed like a good option.
Why is it frightening? Because until I read your post I was one sms away from hooking up with your big pal! Come on, the photos she posts don't make her look too bad, she describes herself as "tall" rather than elephantine, she is persuasive when she describes what she wants from a man, no she hasn't got around to the toys with me yet but the availability of any orifice for whatever purpose I may desire has been made explicit - several times.
I was this close to saying "Ah what the hell, I'll go for it, she might be a wee bit on the chubby side but what's the worst that could happen?".
Thank you Morepoonhound, from the botom of my heart I thank you, I will be forever in your debt.
[QUOTE=Bulai69]PLEASE if you find a way to make it bigger PLEASE don't post it! That's really not my kind of body and I was having my tea when I openned it![/QUOTE]
Haha, I agree totally, I swear there are four hot indonesian girls inside that body wanting to break out
[QUOTE=Bleute]I am making my way back to Jakarta late August.
I usually come early in the year but this year I will be coming later.
Can anyone tell me if there are any holidays or festivals that may interfere with mongering in late August early September.
I don't want to arrive and find the place dead.
By the way had a recent trip to Tanjong Balai Karim and it was excellent. Prices are lower and girls are just as good but the only thing to do there is drink, bonk and eat.[/QUOTE]Here you go:
[url]http://www.expat.or.id/info/holidays.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Mandiri]Here you go:
[url]http://www.expat.or.id/info/holidays.html[/url][/QUOTE]
So Ramadan starts Sep 13 thru Oct 12 , and then Idul Fitri for the week following . Is that correct?
RL
Following Mongerxx’s response to my post and some advice coming from other sources, I entertained my client ar Alexis Hotel (ex Grand Ancol).
Upfront, I will mention here that this place is fantastic – very high-end, top service, clean, functional, beautiful girls from various countries.
Being stationed in the South of Jakarta and going to Alexis Hotel (even on a Saturday), it took me a good 60mn to reach the place using the toll. The place does not look much from the outside. We went to the Spa floor. Very nice spa, very clean, 3 jacuzzis at different water temperatures, plenty of (fake) trees, a fountain, a good lighting and relaxing background music make you feel you are outdoor in a very peaceful and relaxing environment. By the jacuzzis, a number of rooms where regular clean massages are being delivered (you can see thru because there is no door, there’s only a veil separating the room from the jacuzzi section). Going down a few stairs and this is the high-end bar with various groups of girls (groupped by origin: locals, PRC, Thai, Russia). This bar is very nice, with wooden floor, red curtains, comfy couches etc. Pricing vary from 600k for a local Indo up to 1. 8 M Rp to a so-called Thai model (PRC at 1. 5 M Rp). Most of the girls are good to very good looking – very few non-lookers. Pricing includes 30mn at the spa with the lady and 60mn in a bedroom.
I picked a local Indo gal, not a stunner, but firm titts and nice GFE attitude, for 600k. My client took a 1. 3M Rp Thai gal. Off we went to the jacuzzi, and it was paradise, sitting in the jacuzzi with my girl, her rubbing and massaging me very GFE-like, other couples engaged in the same activity. Great to bond and get the gal in a mood ahead of the upcoming bang!
We then moved on the bedroom, again very high-end, red curtains, a bed a la 5 Star hotel, private bathrrom with little pebbles on the floor, very spa-like. I enjoyed a great session where my gal gave me a great BBBJ for a good 15mn (I forgot to CBJ, it was so delightful and GFE-like! ) and she even came. Super GFE, a session to remember, especially with all the mirrors in the room, I was watching her suck me and then myself pumping away: I was a porn star! Great ego-booster!
By the way, my gal is number 119 by the name of Nike – Jakarta girl, claims she has worked there for 3 months, before that she was working in a Karaoke. Very petite but great firm titts, fantastic shaped small butt, very GFE with me. Highly recommended. I gave her a big tip, that’s how happy I was by the GFE.
My client enjoyed a great session too with his Thai provider. It was CBJ vs BBBJ on the menu there, as Thai gals are usually accustomed to (good on them! ).
Overall damage: spa+drinks+gals= 2. 8M Rp.
This is not your every day bang of course, but this is a great place to treat yourself every once in a while. Highly recommended. Very high-end.
Enjoy!
[QUOTE=Robert Long]So Ramadan starts Sep 13 thru Oct 12 , and then Idul Fitri for the week following . Is that correct?
RL[/QUOTE]Yes, Sir!
I forgot to mention that I was the only bule at Hotel Alexis, not a single bule there except me (and except the bule russian working girls ! LOL). Mostly local Indo guys, also some Korean, Japanese and Chinese clients -- certainly on that very day being a Saturday afternoon.
On the subject of the Russian working girls there, I found none of them attractive. Besides, as is typical with European prostitution, they look not happy (almost grouchy) to be there (can't blame them of course, but I guess that's why I enjoy Asia WG's as opposed to Euro ones: they can be so GFE despite all their misery!).
[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]
I then sent an sms to her later explaining that I was real busy at work and wouldn’t be able to see her anytime soon. She then sent a couple of sms’s over the next week saying hello and which I ignored, then I’ve never heard from her again.[/QUOTE]
Nice one MS.
Met this nice lady in a party, she own a saloon and after a drink too many went back to my kost. Had a real good time and before eruption... The phone ring and the guard remind me that no guest allowed after 1am... Tried to explain that I need a few more min but he refuses.
so no choice but to order a taxi to send her back. She is mid 30 with 2 kids and divorced. We planed to meet again and after some SMS exchanges over the next couple of days. I do not feel comfortable as I find her to be very temperamental, gets upset very easily. So I avoid her.. and the SMS exchanges just get less and eventually stop.
Few months later on a Sunday afternoon. She called telling me she got a headache and want me to go over to her house to have sex. She said she just heard from the radio that sex can cure headache....... I ignore giving excuses that am busy...
Funny world isn't it here.
Cheers
[QUOTE=Nikmat07]Excuse this first "virgin" posting from the veteran mongerers, such as the infamous John Aldrich (I bumped into your friend Sunny from Exxon, whilst transiting from Singapore to UK not so long ago!), Smoothy, Knight 1001, Rainman, 1Ball, Joel Goodson, Sapperken and last but not least, Mighty Spearsman.
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Huh, Is that the reason Knight called last night?
Welcome back then,
Cheers
[QUOTE=Bulai69] Morepoonhound - One thing I have to ask you - no offence - but why is your "hit rate" in BATS so low!? It's been posted in here a few times that circa 70% of the girls in there are hookers so if your hit rate is on average 1 in 30 it means if my arithmetic is correct, even when you try to score with a hooker, you fail to score 95% of the time! Surely not?![/QUOTE]My miscommunication, Bulai69 (and anyone else who might have had the same question). Actually I don't recall EVER having been turned down, when hitting on a lady in BATS (or CJ's, or TigaPuloh, or the's Place, etc. For that matter).
What I meant in saying that "my hit-rate is 1 in 20 on a good night", is that typically only 5 percent (or less) of the women in the hooker bars are my ideal physical type. Actually I have two ideal types. Tall and slim, and athletic with a tight body and good muscle definition, especially a hot ass (the proverbial gym-bunnies). Yeah, yeah, I know. Join the queue (grin). Probably the reason I find so few is because the hard-core hunters snaffle them up either by phone-call before they ever hit the bar, or the moment they walk into the place.
I got spoiled early in life by going to university at a school with a primo ballet program. I had the good fortune to date a few ballerinas in succession. Then after getting into the working world, I hooked up with several serious female body-builders. For those of you who follow such things, think Rachel McLeish because I am more into well-sculpted beauties and not at all into muscular almost-men-type females.
Reasonable fellow that I am, I let my friend with the small brain decide on choice of date for the evening, when my big brain doesn’t spot any of my favourite types in the room. Sure I have my standards, but they can be flexible depending on how hard my dick is. On this, I am guessing that I have company (grin again).
But once I find a hard-bodied little wench, or a tall and slim sylph-type, then I make sure I get her phone number and I repeat on jumping her bones pretty much indefinitely until either she moves on (literally), or she starts getting relationship-oriented.
So this post isn’t just about me, let me introduce a nut-brown-skinned hot-body called Meela who I will guess more than one of you may have sampled from out of BATS. Meela has an ass like Jennifer Lopez (seriously) and is one of the hottest fucks that I have had in a very long while. I did Meela regularly in 2005 and 2006 (400k per pop, though she first asked 1 million), for a few months, until some other admirer sponsored her visa to Switzerland. Even after telling me she was engaged and leaving any day now, she would come rock my world when I called. But the day finally came when she simply disappeared and no longer answered her phone.
Several months later, I saw Meela in BATS again on a night when I already was on my way out the door with a new friend (a slim sylph type called Maryam who I may write about another time). We spoke long enough for Meela to tell me how cold Switzerland had been, but I didn’t think to get her new number, and I haven’t seen her in BATS again since. Of course I will love to do her again if our paths cross, but my tip for any of you is that she is every bit as hot as that wonderful ass looks. If you meet her, invite her home and treat her nicely. She is really wonderful.
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[QUOTE=Morepoonhound]
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The massage ladies are not. Strictly speaking. Available for sex, but none have turned me down yet. If you want to be sure of that second shot (which you will have to tip additional for of course), maybe tell her when she walks in that you want full service, and ask to change if she isn't keen.
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The owner goes by the nick of Qibye in many other forums. U can call him to arrange transport for you if u managed to get in touch with him. If u like golf, he can arrange to play with u too, he is a 20 handicapper.
Do u know.. His freelancer, some of which are local Indo Chinese finish work at 9 pm where the SPA close. U can arrange to bring these girls out for fun, disco, pubbing or check in to your hotel... Tip them well the next morning of course.
Hope the above infor helps for those always asking where to find Chinese Indo girls.....
Cheers
[QUOTE=Baldmale]Seems to be "the rich executive club" in permata hijau. Just open.[/QUOTE]
Care to tell us more about this place. Is it open to the public?
My friend brought me there but I could not get hold of him recently.
Cheers
Just wondering, anybody here fish in high end clubs like X2, Vertigo, Embassy etc?
My friend got lucky in Tipsy (Kemang), got a girl to go back with us whom just came in. We continue drinking back in my house and she mentioned that she is supposed to meet another friend there at tipsy and suggested that her friend also come down to my place.
Well, nobody say no to such offer right? When she arrive, I was already quite tipsy n since only some lights are on in the house, did not clearly see how she looks like. Then I fell asleep and was awaken by that lady that just came asking me to go to my room to sleep. Without hesitation, hold her hand and lead her to where my room is. Strip and had a good session and fell asleep thereafter.
Was surprised there was a girl next to me when I woke up in the morning, she was naked and so the morning erection helps. Great sex again.
Best thing were, did not know where she comes from and what's her name. So wash out and got ready to go to work. Saw my friends and that lady sleeping outside. Looks like they have great fun.
So off we goes and I alight somewhere near my office and told the driver to send them back. No money given nor discussed. Just a kiss bye.
Few days later, my friend asked that I join him at Tipsy again as the other lady is going there. Met them there again and as usual, back to my house and stay the night.
They are normal working ladies that just love to hang out in Kemang area.
Biggest problem with Kemang or these High end clubs is that people start coming only around midnight and party end around 3am.
Another time, this lady friend of my friend said she is tipsy and is with another friend and that they would like to drop by my place for more drink.
Well, this other girl she brought is a university student and just party sometimes with her. We had some wine and thereafter just lead that lady to my room. Another great night.
The former is 21 and the latter is latter is 23. Now am in contact regularly with both. The student knows about the 1st but not the other way round.
Now it seem they are looking for more then just sex but a relationship. Maybe time to go back fishing in the clubs for new stocks?
I hv seem some Bule in dragonfly before and am sure they came in alone but see them kissing, dancing and hugging girls when the party end. I am sure there are more to it.
Anybody got some similar story to share?
Cheers
[QUOTE=Smoothy]
Singapore isn't the place I worry about though because they come back from there. It's when they go to Japan that I don't like. Many times they go there and don't ever return. There was a strong Japanese trade taking our indo girls a few years ago, but I don't think it's as rampant anymore. They would offer the girls a one year "contract", but you'd never see the girls come back. One example I knew of was where the Japanese pimps had an indo girl named Hanna working as a mama san recruiting the girls. She was actually fairly young as well. She used to go to the different bars and discos offering the girls this chance of a lifetime to make big money. I haven't seen her around for a while, but I know at least 10 different girls she recruited back then and I haven't seen a single one again since they left.[/QUOTE]
Huh. JAPAN.
Training in Furama Restaurant before flying to Japan on that 6 months contract. It's not true that they don't returned. Maybe they got married for those u know?
I used to have a girlfriend whom I met in one of the Japanese KTV in BLK M when I arrived 10 yrs back. She went with her Japanses Boyfriend to bangkok when he was posted there. Came back after they have a fight n worked part time in the KTV. We went out a few times before she left for Japan.
Then she send me mail with a pregnancy text paper showing that she is pregnant. I ignore it and she actually called me from Japan. We talk about her job but I could not be responsible since we knew each other for less then a month before she left. Well, never heard from her for a long while till one day she called saying she is back in Jakarta for a break and going to Japan again. Asked if I wanted to meet up which I reject.
There were also few others whom I know returned. One of them is in Top Gun quite often on week end. Name is Ros if I remember correctly.
Cheers
[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]No, this story is NOT about a woman who weighs over 120 kg. But since there have been several posts recently about finding freebies on AFF, I thought it useful to share this story:
Oops! The last thing I need is to get involved in a potential marriage-wrecking situation, nor do I need or want to be a surrogate father to someone else’s kid. Luckily my cell phone beeped a minute later with an sms from a friend, I read it and, pretending that it was from my office, said “sorry, I have to get back to my office right away to send a fax to the U.S. before closing time,” left money to pay for the drinks and got up and left.
I then sent an sms to her later explaining that I was real busy at work and wouldn’t be able to see her anytime soon. She then sent a couple of sms’s over the next week saying hello and which I ignored, then I’ve never heard from her again.[/QUOTE]Mighty Spearsman, great story. Thanks.
You likely have more experience with this sort of thing than I do anyway, so you probably played this (dangerous) opportunity correctly. More for other readers than for the very experienced hunters who post here, I offer some suggestions for dealing with the non-professional ladies that you may find opportunities for bonking with from time to time.
I have written a few times about the fun available through the amateur ladies of AFF, but be careful. There are more than a few women on AFF looking for serious relationships, along the lines of the story that Master Spearsman just shared. The first clue is in the "Looking for" part of their AFF profile header. There are multiple options, including looking for "1-on-1 sex", "discreet relationship" and "alternative activities", plus some others. Most women choose multiple "Looking for" objectives.
If you want to limit yourself strictly to fuck-buddy status, even if you are honest about being a married man like I am in my own profile, then make sure that women you approach have "1-to-1 sex" in their list of objectives. Best to steer completely clear of any who put only "discreet relationship", or only "alternative activities" for their objectives.
The next clue is to read their profile for phrases like looking for "a soulmate" or "someone to care for me" or "serious relationship", or (no-brainer) "a man to be my husband". No joke, there are more than a few women who openly write things like this on AFF. Avoid, or as TV-fans of my generation may understand "Danger, danger Will Robinson". You can look that up on Wikipedia if you don’t catch the reference (grin).
On the other hand, if one of those women is well-educated (BA degree or better) and is exactly my physical type (tall and slim or tall and athletic), I often still try my luck along the following lines. I wrap my approach in whatever come-on seems likely to get her attention, but my basic message is that I cannot be "the one" because I am married. Tapi barangkali I can be "the fun" while you look for your soulmate. And then I make my pitch.
Because I am polite and friendly, and ok, maybe because my profile makes clear that I love to eat pussy (grin again), some of these women write back to me, and several of these now regular fuck-buddies are totally open with me about their ongoing search for a serious relationship. These are not professional working-girls gentlemen. They may well want a sugar-daddy, but none of them have ever put the money-bite on me, because I made it clear from the beginning that I am only offering sex, while leading first with my tongue (which I make sure I deliver on).
I don’t want to make this sound too easy. Most of these women either ignore me completely or tell me they only want to be my friend on email. Your chances are much better chasing the ladies who are clear that they are looking for 1-on-1 sex. The beauty is that you don’t have to choose. Chase both/all types like I do (full smile).
But be careful. Here is the obligatory scare story – this happened to me less than 3 months ago. A married woman who could have been Miss Indonesia if she were 15 cm taller exchanged half-a-dozen increasingly wild and nakal emails with me – and we really connected via email. Only when we finally met face-to-face, it became clear she was looking for a "love story" type romance as escape from a marriage she is really unhappy in.
Not quite as bad as Mighty Spearsman’s situation, but it sounded too much like "Fatal Attraction" to me (do you know that movie – Glen Close and Michael Douglas? ). So I bailed out before the first kiss. Maybe more fair to say that she bailed on me when I wouldn't agree to be at her beck and call 24x7 when visiting Jakarta. That one was really hard (and so was I by the time she walked away from our meeting – grinning ruefully).
If I had let my dick do 100% of the thinking, I’m sure I could have banged Ms almost-Indonesia. But I would have had to lie about my intentions, and I would have had to watch my back in future, because you really don’t want to cross an Indonesian woman who has connections and who passes up her pussy in exchange for your emotional commitment. Don’t do it fellas, even if you are single, is my best advice. There is plenty of less complicated poon available all across Indonesia.
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That makes perfect sense! I thought there must be a logical explanation and I certainly agree. Although the "average" girls body in Jakarta is 100 times better than the average in UK/US where 99/100 are fat (by my criteria) there are in increasing number of over-weight girls around. Presumably this is due to the increase of junk "food" over the past few years. 15 or so years ago most girls were slimmer. Nevertheless, there are of course plenty of "perfect" bodies around; I think 1 in 20 (eg in BATS) is the right ratio for me anyway. Of course there are more emerging from Celebrity Fitness but they won't be so easy to get!
[QUOTE=Dorman]That is unquestionably the funniest report I have ever read on this forum and also the most frightening.
Why is it frightening? Because until I read your post I was one sms away from hooking up with your big pal! Come on, the photos she posts don't make her look too bad, she describes herself as "tall" rather than elephantine, she is persuasive when she describes what she wants from a man, no she hasn't got around to the toys with me yet but the availability of any orifice for whatever purpose I may desire has been made explicit - several times.
I was this close to saying "Ah what the hell, I'll go for it, she might be a wee bit on the chubby side but what's the worst that could happen?".
Thank you Morepoonhound, from the botom of my heart I thank you, I will be forever in your debt.[/QUOTE]Dorman, you are most welcome but you aren’t in my debt, even for saving you from the plus-size charms of the bum-slapper. If anything, it’s the other way around. You and the many other regular posters here paid your tabs in advance already. Anything and everything we newbies can do to help you in return is "on-the-house".
Smoothy, thanks for posting "Whale Ho/Whor*" to the reports-of-distinction thread. I think what made that piece funny was more the great (! ) material I had to work with (grin).
Dorman is absolutely right about our big not-pal "not looking too bad" on her AFF profile. Worst case she is posting photo’s that are some other lady’s body, and she wouldn’t be the first woman to do that. Two pics in particular look tempting. One is a reasonably curvaceous ass with a tattoo on it and the other is a deliciously erect nipple on a pretty-normal-size looking breast.
If those snaps are her, then it was at least a 50-kg lighter version of her. By the way, she did claim a 35 kg weight gain in the past year on account of pregnancy and depression when I met her, so who knows? But my recent post pretty well describes what to expect if you are enticed to sample any of the multiple orifices that she puts on offer. Hey, with that body, maybe a 4-holer becomes possible. OK, that is probably over the line, sorry.
One related heads-up guys – for you especially, Dorman. I have a particular weakness for three-somes, so I track most of the women hunting on AFF as a 2-female couple together. Turns out our big not-pal has such a profile, under the handle 2-sexy-chicks-something-or-other. She told me about it during her ingestion of orange-juice, so be forewarned. Finally, there is another lady who has an even rounder and more jiggly shape than the bum-slapper, with "virgin" in her handle. She is only about 1. 5m tall (or shorter) so she isn’t nearly as heavy. Mostly what she reminded me of was a bowling ball. Benar-benar!
Virgin-something is a bureaucrat with one of the Jakarta city government departments (economist, I think), so she has both intelligence and plenty of time during her "so-called working day" to troll for gullible bule’s on the internet.
I bit because she checks the "average" body-type box on her AFF profile, and claimed to be an oral queen despite retention of her hymen. When you see what she looks like (ah, go ahead and meet her "in the interests of science", fella’s) you will understand why that cherry remains intact. That time I got away with 15 minutes in Starbucks, and nothing like the risks to my blood-pressure of the taxi-stand dash to the staff-entrance I described in "Whale Ho! ".
Who knows, maybe the rotund little virgin is the other member of our big not-pal’s tag-team. Now THERE’s a scary thought! If AFF imposed truth-in-advertising, a female couple like that would have a handle like "The Oblate Spheroids". Look it up, gentlemen (full smile).
[QUOTE=Bulai69]... there are in increasing number of over-weight girls around. Presumably this is due to the increase of junk "food" over the past few years. 15 or so years ago most girls were slimmer.[/QUOTE]I have a personal theory about this. Many Indo women are in fact the chubby type. Over a decade ago most girls in JKT were regular xstasy or shabu users. These drugs kept them artificially slim. Recently drug-use has gone back owing to the narkoba-narkoba campaigns. The majority of girls are reverting to their inborn chubbiness. The girls themselves will say so, associating their "kurus" state with their period of drug-taking, and their "gemuk" state to a lack of "tripping".
Out of the three girls I've had a lasting relationship with in JKT, two ceased to be my type after they stopped actively taking drugs.
[QUOTE=Bulai69]...... but I think this is a situation where Pak Menteng might be prepared to "help out" - getting her another "role model" would de-risk the situation for you I think.[/QUOTE]
Thanks B69. Me, a role-model. I like that!
BTW sure would love to help you out MS, but, but, but (sigh) I'm on different hunting grounds now. Medellin, Colombia, that is. It is not Jakarta, but Im doing fine. No luck yet with SPG's, but I have a couple of very promising "projects".
These great stories about the dangers of the AFF experience reminded me of a few of my own. Taking a chance on meeting an unknown girl from the web is one thing, but getting set up by a fellow monger is another. The names of the guilty shall remain hidden :D but he knows who he is.
In one case, a girl was referred to me as a virgin looking to give it up to a Bule. I agreed to meet her in the lobby of the Intercon where I was staying at the time. When I spotted her in the lobby, my spirits crashed through the floor. She appeared to have hit that wall that many asian women tend to do, whereby they stay young and attractive for a long period of time, then nature seems to take revenge by artifically aging them around 30-35 to the point where they all resemble Amelda Marcos. At least, that's my theory.
The plan was to have dinner in the main restaurant, and as we took the elevator to the right floor, all I could think of was how I was about to waste 4-500k rupes on a dinner check that was going nowhere. Luckily, someone had closed down the place for a private party, so we went sown to the sandwich bar in the shopping arcade. Although she pleasant enough, her face and body were quite unattractive. So I finished up and got out of there after only a bit of damage.
The second time, same monger set me up again. Same situation, but this time, the restaurant was open. Again, this one was nice enough, and we actually had a nice conversation over dinner, but she had a very bad case of acne (really really bad) and appeared to be around 5'10"/180 pounds. Anything over 120 or so is a huge turn off for me. I was discreetly checking my watch to see how long before Bats opens up.
For some reason we exchanged numbers, which was a big mistake. She began texting me quite often, and the more I politely declined another date, the more aggressive she became. Next came the abusive psychotic accusations and insults, to the point where she came to the lobby and started calling my room phone (that the staff gave her, not me). I was to the point of calling security. Once overseas, she started in on my yahoo chat name. I had to block that too.
So the moral of the story is don't trust anyone. :D
I can confirm that having had the pleasure to meet the 1 & in the pipeline! GOD I miss Jakarta!
KL Guy
[QUOTE=Bulai69] I've even had virgins (well one anyway and another in the pipeline so to speak) from such a source as many who know me could confirm.
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I'm inclined to agree with XXL's theory. Most women who are skinny in Indonesia either take a lot of recreational drugs, or just don't eat. Neither of which are very healthy. I have met very very few women in Indonesia who meet my standards of what a "nice body" should be like, and my standards are actually relatively lax: A proportionately thin waist and minimal folds around the waistline pretty much does the job for me, he he!
The few women who I found physically attractive body-wise I have either met at the gym or (very very rarely), seen walking around some of the upper-class malls in Jakarta. The ones in the mall can be a little deceptive, too, because of the amazing properties of some of these brand-name clothes.
Asian women in the US who are skinny are generally more of the "skinny-because-I-workout-regularly" type, which is more to my taste I think. Oh well, thought I'd throw in my two cents' worth on the matter.
What's with all the virgins recently? You know I never took a girl's virginity in all my life before but recently they've been coming on thick and fast. I don't know whether it was my old fashioned morality (yeah that'd be right, old fashioned moralist, that's why I hang around here) but I simply could never bring myself to deflower a girl (quaint word for a usually rather squalid and sad business). Stupid of course as someone had to have popped all the girls I was screwing and they didn't seem any the worse for it but I just never felt comfortable with something that seemed to me to be so deeply intimate.
Anyway, I have little friend, a nineteen year old university student who likes talking dirty but after a load of bravado admitted in fact she was still a virgin. She then suggested I meet up with her friend, fine I thought that's good of you, but curiously her friend was intacta too. Eh? Well here's the thing, her friend wanted to have sex, everyone else seemed to be doing it so she wanted to do so as well but she didn't want to lose her virginity in some dark alley or the back of a shed somewhere with some smelly kampung boy who would probably be as inexperienced as her and who would then be boasting about it to all his mates for months after. So instead she wanted me to do the deed on the basis that I would be more experienced, would take her easy, treat her well, rent a nice clean hotel room and then fuck off and leave her to get with her sex life as she saw fit.
Well I was absolutely gobsmacked by this proposal but agreed to meet the friend for coffee to discuss the matter. Sure enough in a very rational detached manner the friend confirmed that was precisely what she wanted, no money need change hands but if I wanted to give her some shopping money well that would be just gravy. I thought about it for a while and agreed on the basis that if she got cold feet she could back out, she looked at me oddly wondering why I was making such a big fuss about a simple job she wanted me to carry out. We went to the room, had a cuddle, took it slowly and then got on with it, she complained of a little discomfort afterwards but otherwise she seemed rather pleased with herself as if she had passed some great rite of passage, like a boy's circumcision or something, which in a way I guess it was, and off she went with a big grin leaving me in the room thoroughly non-plussed about the youth of today.
Upshot is now my original little blossom is all jealous and is demanding I meet up later to 'do her' too, amazing. This town just gets more and more bizarre!
(I'll post some more comments relating to AFF later, I'd be interested if anyone else had the -technical- problems that I had with the site)
It's a pity to break up the flow of amusing stories about AFF and other encounters, so please pardon this interruption.
But I notice that while there is a wealth of useful information about MP Bordellos in town, the posts seem to mention only those in the northern part ( Glodok, Kota, Gunung Sahari) or in the south (Mayestik, Jl Fatmawati). Does anyone know if there are any MP Bordellos in Menteng/Cikini/Tebet area that can be recommended? Also any info on Fortune Spa on Jl. Mas Mansyur next to the Standard Chartered building. Is it part of the same chain as Delta Fortuna?
Many thanks
[quote=panya]i have sms-ed my golden bird contact and this is what he can do:
1. let him know in advance via sms your arrival date/time/flight number. please be informed that he works in shifts, and there are many golden bird counters where he can be stationed --so some advance arrangement is needed.
2. on your arrival, there are escalators/steps that you go down after disembarking from your plane. he will be waiting for you at the bottom of the steps with your name on a sheet of paper.
3. he will walk with you to the "visa on arrival", take your documents and deal directly with the immigration officer without having to queue. while this is being done, you will wait for him nearby the "visa on arrival" counter.
4. after that, he will walk with you to the immigration counter where he will "clear" you through, and you wait for him near the smoking area/toilet entrance. he will handle the immigration formalities for you.
for this, he would like to charge rp 150,000 per head (he claims that he has to give at least rp 100k to the officers at both counters). for those who are interested, you can send me a pm, and i will provide his name and mobile phone number. for god's sake, don't even for a minute think i am getting a commission out of this!!
i find that the downside of this arrangement is that sometimes there are no queues at all when you arrive, but you will still have to pay him for showing up! :(
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i'm sure that all of this information is correct and useful for some people. but it's important to realise that it's not really necessary. first-timers to jakarta should know that jakarta airport is not some nasty african shithole where you must pay corrupt officials or queue for hours in an iron shed. it may not be bangkok, but there's really no hassle at all. as panya mentioned, there are often no queues at all. the recent renovation of the immigration counters also appears to have speeded things up.
if you're really keen to get to the ladies 10 mins earlier, then by all means pay a golden bird man. but i personally don't bother. and i come in and out of the country about every month.
I've RTFF, but am looking for a good outcall massage or WG service (not Mr Don, been there done that).
Anyone got any suggestions for getting a good massage in your hotel room other than using the over-priced (and usually over-weight, over-aged women they send!).
Also looking for a good in room outcall service when the need arises there too !
Any pointers in the right direction?
Cheers,
Maaars
[QUOTE=Maaars]I
Anyone got any suggestions for getting a good massage in your hotel room other than using the over-priced (and usually over-weight, over-aged women they send!).
Maaars[/QUOTE]
90+ minute massage for a mere 78k rupes, 021 7071 7070. Drop the 021 if dialling from a hotel landline. Give them about an hour's notice, but even in rush hour gridlock, they manage to arrive on time.
Straight massage, no happy ending but service excellent. Thanks for Brandon888 for the original post.
Trav, actually I think they require a 90 minute minimum, but if you only want an hour or so, you just pay the 78+tip. On second thought, the not-attractive woman they send may actually include a happy ending for a price. I just never asked.
[QUOTE=Brandon88]Trav, actually I think they require a 90 minute minimum, but if you only want an hour or so, you just pay the 78+tip. On second thought, the not-attractive woman they send may actually include a happy ending for a price. I just never asked.[/QUOTE]
Re the time/price, I merely cut and pasted your original pm to me :)
I actually tried them last year after you pm the details. A fairly young and attractive woman attended to me, good massage, never strayed from her job and I had plenty of options lined up that evening so never even broached a happy ending with her.
FYI, called around 4 pm and she arrived within 30 minutes, after she was finished (can't remember whether 60 or 90 min), called a number for me to tell the boss: habis! Gave her 100 rupes and didn't ask for change......
My local office couldn't believe I got such a good deal - in room service at the Shangrila....LOL.
[QUOTE=Maaars]I've RTFF, but am looking for a good outcall massage or WG service (not Mr Don, been there done that).
Also looking for a good in room outcall service when the need arises there too !
Maaars[/QUOTE]I don't know about the straight massage, but this one is full-service sex. Better pricing (and service) then you are likely to get by calling one of the many numbers featured in the Jakarta Post classifieds.
Try one of these numbers – both for the same place. Cost is 350k rups for short-time (roughly 90 minutes), and negotiable for longer, including over night, though I never tried that.
You need to be able to speak enough Indonesian to give directions and to agree price. If they think you are a bule tourist, the price quoted will be 600k, but you can bargain down . . . in bahasa (smile).
The service guarantee below the numbers (loosely translated) states that they guarantee the service, and your money back if you are not satisfied. I don't know what would happen if you asked (smile again), but it's a nice thought.
021-68159375, 021-68159573
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[QUOTE=Traveler1234]90+ minute massage for a mere 78k rupes, 021 7071 7070. Drop the 021 if dialling from a hotel landline. Give them about an hour's notice, but even in rush hour gridlock, they manage to arrive on time.
Straight massage, no happy ending but service excellent. Thanks for Brandon888 for the original post.[/QUOTE]Thanks Trav (and I guess Brandon). Just tried the service. No happy ending or even a hint of any but pretty good massage I must say! Girl was about 30, bit on the chubby side, no English (other than "tip? "! ) but pleasant enough. All up, recommended; damage was 100k plus 20k tip. Seems price has gone up but still good value.
Now. Any good recommendations for my "other" needs? A good outcall service?
Cheers,
Maaars
Yeah, meanwhile, down at the Shang's spa, some rube is getting an hour at 300k!
[QUOTE=Brandon88]So the moral of the story is don't trust anyone.[/QUOTE]I must say so far so good.
Cheers
Wooooweeee! That was fun! Did the earth move for you too baybee?
The theory about "recreational" drug taking might have some "substance" but I'd be suprised if it accounts for most of the increase in fatties over the past 15 years. Who knows. I think it's maybe more about beefburgers. Not that a couple of cases proves anything but I know two girls who used to be occassional "e" users and have definitely stopped. They aren't any less slim than they ever where and they eat more than I do. Some will know who I'm talking about and by all means feel to contradict if I'm looking through rose coloured specs.
No beefburgers here:
Spice Lover: As far as I know, Fortune in the Karet area is part of the Grand Comfort (e.g. GC Latumenten/Kartini in the Pasar Baroe area), chain. The name of the holding company is PT. COMFORT something-something, as can be seen if one runs a CC at Fortune. Some numbers to try here include 01, 08, 09, 69, 75/105, and 95. Unfortunately, FJ is not guaranteed with all the girls but will run "only" around Rp 500k if you get the right girl. Kind of depends on how the girl feels about you. The real stars here are the PR Officers up front, two in particular are quite attractive (7.5 or 8+ depending on individual taste). Unfortunately, they are not available for anything at all in house, but are definitely possible targets for outside play. If you are thinking about swinging by, drop me a PM and I'll come join! (Actually, I just want an excuse to drop in and hit on the PR Officers, he he.)
Bulai69: Yes, food in Indonesia is become more and more westernized (i.e., more simple carbs, less protein and "good" fats), and I agree with your theory that this could be part of the reason for the increase in average weight for Indonesian women. The real problem for me is most Indonesian women subscribe to the "I-can-get-thin-by-just-not-eating" rule, so when they are skinny they are skinny without any tone or shape, which kind of ruins it IMHO.
[QUOTE=Jt Boi] I have met very very few women in Indonesia who meet my standards of what a "nice body" should be like, and my standards are actually relatively lax: A proportionately thin waist and minimal folds around the waistline pretty much does the job for me, he he!
The few women who I found physically attractive body-wise I have either met at the gym or (very very rarely), seen walking around some of the upper-class malls in Jakarta.[/QUOTE]Gentlemen, gentlemen,
High standards are a good thing to maintain, but let’s not lose perspective here. I travel extensively (mainly in Asia), and I think Indonesian women compare very favorably in general. Especially true if (like Bulai69) you are comparing the average Javanese or Sundanese or Sumatran or Sulawesi (and hey let’s not forget Indonesian-Chinese), wanita with the average American Beauty or English Rose (grin).
If you want maximum hard-bodies and minimum chubbies, head immediately for Vietnam, especially Hanoi and points north. The northeast of China (the famous dongbeiren females) is another hot-female gold-mine and the dongbei (literally "east/north" or northeast) Chinese ladies are generally several inches taller than the Vietnamese (or for that matter, Indonesian) lovelies.
But I still say we are damn lucky to be sampling the charms of the female members of the Indonesian archipelago. I like slim and fit female bodies a lot, as I have posted about several times here. And even as fussy as I am, and as focused on gym-bunny types, I am absolutely spoiled for choice. True whether I am eating in Plaza Indonesia or Senayan, hunting for paid companionship at D’s-Place (more on that in a minute), or in BATS, or sweet-talking freebies on the profile pages of Adult FriendFinder.
I respect every poster’s point-of-view, and maybe it’s simply the case that their standards are more exacting than my own. More power to them, I say. But for those of you who (like me), find yourself ngaceng (sporting a hard-on) dozens of times a day on the streets of the big-macet, here are three bits of encouragement.
I feel a bit guilty for posting repeatedly on the minority of BBW’s that I have encountered on AFF. All those stories are true, but I don’t go for the chubbies and I have (literally) a triple-digit backlog of women "hotlisted" on AFF who I still haven’t gotten around to contacting. You can sample them too, my fellow friends-of-Jackson.
One that I "have" contacted from AFF is a new friend who makes me feel young again. She is 26 and a professional cultural dancer, trained in ballet and absolutely horny. Her flexibility is something marvelous; her tight little body is still remarkable despite having given birth; and her well-trimmed bush tops a lush, wet and oh-so-sweet set of charms. Her profile comes with full-face pics and she is an 8 in my book. Look for her yourself; no more clues from me while she remains my special friend (sorry).
But two more beauties that are yours for 400k each from D’s-Place are a pair of half-sisters that I have enjoyed (separately, sadly. Always separately) more than once. The older of the two is Julie (pronounced Yoolie) and she is paid by Daryl Patton’s establishment to dance. I don't know what the's-Place pays her, but she moves her ass so well that it isn't enough, whatever her salary.
Fair enough, she has been known to be glassy-eyed at times, but she has an absolutely fantastic ass with nary an ounce of excess flesh on her. Her half-sister is Ayu (just as slim and hard-bodied), and I met Ayu on the occasion of her winning the wet dancing competition (there were no t-shirts in evidence by the end, so I can’t call it a wet-t contest).
How I came to be good friends of both half-sisters is a story for another post (or perhaps several, since it is a long story), but I will close this story by saying that sister number two going with me (instead) was her siblings’ idea. Hmmm.
For "this" post, the main point again was to remind that all of us are very fortunate to have Indonesia as our playground. But sure, please, tell all your friends that the women here are too fat and unattractive. Tell your friends to go to Thailand or Brazil or Russia instead (full smile).
[QUOTE=Dorman]Wooooweeee! That was fun! Did the earth move for you too baybee?[/QUOTE]Can't say it was the most fun I've had this week.
Thought I was tripping at first,
Then realised that my bed had moved and the windows were trying to shake loose. Not the best feeling when you're up 20 stories and have just got home after 1 too many beers!
Bulai your pictures subscribe to the theory that the more attractive - meaning the more money they can earn - the thinner they are. The less they earn the fatter they become. The rationale behind this is that if they are busy on a regular basis they have no time to sit there with the junk food and take better care of themselves.
So to the rest of you if you see a slim good looking woman - please look for the isg chop and the name B69 on there ! In order to reveal this you may have to do some major undressing work however the results will astound you !
On that happy note to all those in Jakarta have a lovely and fruitful weekend
A few weeks back, one of the (many) young gay guys hanging out at CJ's came to me and asked for my number for a female friend of his who had spotted me in the club and liked me. I went to see hisfemale friend and in the end nothing happened between her and I but the point is the gay guy kept my phone number and the interesting piece of the story starts now.
3 days ago (a few weeks later therefore) at about 10pm, I get a phone call from a girl who says she wants to meet with me ASAP. I am surprised at first, and pushed back at first not understanding where this whole thing came from since I had never met her and she was not forthcoming as to how she got my details. Anyway we ended up meeting at CJ on that night, chatting dancing and then spending a wonderful night of sex together. We did the same again last night.- wonderful night of GFE sex.
Turns out that this girl, 32 yo, very hot body, and super horny, is married to an older bule guy who works for a North American oil company in the Middle East. She lives with him obvisoulsy in a very luxurious life.- she showed me pics of their home and described to me the type of life they have-- however she is not happy in her marriage (older bule who is delighted to have a 32 yo woman whom he can "bang on demand" but he is very jealous and she is bored in the Middle East). So she comes back to JKT regularly and parties and occasionally bangs away when she meets a guy she likes. I happen to have been one (lucky) of them and spent fantastic moments with her.
Jakarta, full of surprises and amazing experiences. I guess giving out one's phone number to a gay guy may look like a bad thing to do at first glance but can reap great rewards per the above experience.
[QUOTE=Mandiri]A few weeks back, one of the (many) young gay guys hanging out at CJ's came to me and asked for my number for a female friend of his who had spotted me in the club and liked me. ........
Jakarta, full of surprises and amazing experiences. I guess giving out one's phone number to a gay guy may look like a bad thing to do at first glance but can reap great rewards per the above experience.[/QUOTE]
Funny you should have had this experience ... there's a gay guy, and I am pretty sure it's the same one, who's been hounding me for months to present his female friend(s) to me and I kinda been avoiding him, not knowing exactly what was in it for him or what it may cost me ... looks like I was wrong and you hit the jackpot ... hehehe,
PM me and we'll exchange info on this guy.
Ciao
If one of those indonesian gay guys is sending you a girl, just be careful not to drink anything that you don't know what's in it. You wouldn't want the girl to slip you a rufie then you wake up in the morning with a sore ass and various polaroids strewn about with pictures of some gays having their way with you.
[QUOTE=Morepoonhound]But two more beauties that are yours for 400k each from D’s-Place are a pair of half-sisters that I have enjoyed (separately, sadly. Always separately) more than once. The older of the two is Julie (pronounced Yoolie) and she is paid by Daryl Patton’s establishment to dance. I don't know what the's-Place pays her, but she moves her ass so well that it isn't enough, whatever her salary.
Fair enough, she has been known to be glassy-eyed at times, but she has an absolutely fantastic ass with nary an ounce of excess flesh on her. Her half-sister is Ayu (just as slim and hard-bodied), and I met Ayu on the occasion of her winning the wet dancing competition (there were no t-shirts in evidence by the end, so I can’t call it a wet-t contest).[/QUOTE]I met Ayu in Jakarta back in 2004 and romanced her for 7 months before my contract ended.
Went to her single room place (Sister Julie) was next door in her flat fukin her Indo boyfriend. Sure was a lot of noise.
Ayu said that Julie was a "Sexi Dancer" for D's and gets 1juta per month to shake dat ass.
And a Ass she had. I shagged her only once in 2006 on a return trip.
Anyways, here is Ayu's pic from My Bar Calander 2005.
Love that tight ass body. Dam I gotta get outta Kuala Lumpur and make another Ayam run to D's Place.
Rock On!
Just a few observations on the Blok M bars that are frequently mentioned here to people who haven't been to Jakarta.
D's place is the worst bar. I visited this place a couple of times and it was depressing to be honest. Very small upstairs bar and the quality of the girls/women low compared to others. Hardly anyone seem to frequent this bar which is understandle.
Onto TopGun. This is miles better than D's place. Better clientele and is the biggest bar in Blok M. Has two pool tables and two big bars. One thing against it is the atmosphere. It is quite laid-back and with the seating arrangements and the live band it is like somewhere you would take your old mom for her birthday. Very sedate really but ok if you're an old codger I suppose! Girls are ok in here.
Lastly MyBar. This IMO is the best Blok M bar. It is smaller than TopGun but can generate a much better atmosphere than TopGun. There is a dancefloor although not very big and a DJ. It's a place where you can feel that you are on vacation rather than the other bars mentioned. As it's not too big when the crowd gets in there is a real good atmosphere in there. Also the girls in MyBar are the best. Some younger ones because of the feel of the place, although girls flit from TopGun to MyBar as they are on opposite sides of the street.
IMO Indonesian girls when they are hot are far sexier than on average than any Thai or Filipino girl.
Have read some reports lately about needing/providing directions to a couple of fave monger locations and thought I would add a little.
Echoing the guy that raves about the Busway, have to admit that its hard to beat at times.
The easiest way to find the Blok M 'expat bars' is to take the busway to the Blok M terminal, walk downstairs and take the first exit to the left.
Once on the street turn right at the corner and there you are - My Bar, Top Gun, D's Place, et al.
For Kartika/Berlian 'MPs' take the Kota Busway to Mannga Besar then, travelling towards Kota, walk along the right side of the road (facing the oncoming traffic) for about 150m and you will arrive at Bakery Suisse. The large sign above the store is hidden by the shop awning, but its one of the cleanest modern bakeries in the area. On the left of the bakery there is a lane which has a range of MPs to choose from (apart from the 2 most mentioned here on ISG). Price is around 250K (I can get it for 220 and some hard-core regulars can probably go under 200).
Once youve popped once or twice there, Today Country is a 10 minute walk or 2 minute moto-taxi.
Turn right at Jl. Mannga Besar (still walking towards the direction of Kota) and head for Lokasari Mall. If you are walking at night, I advise to take the left-side laneway that runs parallel to the main street. Feels very safe, even late at night. Any local person can tell you where the mall is anyway if you just ask "Lokasari?".
Once you are there walk straight until you arrive at Lokasari Plaza.
The ground floor sells cell phones, so you will know it's the correct place.
Take the escalator up and in front of you is a small door next to a stall (probably with a 'guard' sitting next to it).
If you are unsure then just say "Today Country?" (yeah I know, where would you be without all of my cutting edge advice!) and he will point inside and to the right. You will then walk into a carpark where the entrance of TC is located, entry is 20K (gets you a free beer or can of softdrink).
Today Country is possibly the darkest 'lit' club you will visit anywhere. The Mamasans who work there all carry mini flashlights and I usually have my phone screen turned up to maximum brightness and use that to inspect the girls that prop up next to me.
Fridays and Saturdays are naturally very busy nights, but midweek it can be very quiet early in the night and the fruit is for the picking.
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I am sorry but i do not have this gay guy's details. His name goes by the pronounciation of 'danke' or something like that, but again he goes to CJ occasionally (he is not really a regular regular there) and is one gay guy there among quite a few.
[QUOTE=Fabregas70]Just a few observations on the Blok M bars that are frequently mentioned here to people who haven't been to Jakarta.
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Lastly MyBar. ............ It's a place where you can feel that you are on vacation rather than the other bars mentioned. ..........[/QUOTE]
Funny thing is that local expats mention Top Gun as their favourite. And I second that. Maybe we know what the risks are when visiting My Bar. And I don´t mean the risk to bump into a sweet thing.
My Bar is the place with the most frequent violent outbursts and the loudest music. Enough people though, looking for a place like that.
Like you mentioned, the girls from Top Gun and My Bar rotate from one bar to another. So why not pick them up in Top Gun?
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Fridays and Saturdays are naturally very busy nights, but midweek it can be very quiet early in the night and the fruit is for the picking.
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Very good description. In addition I would mention that on sunday afternoon you´ll find the amateur girls sitting and standing near the outside stairs, waiting for an invitation.
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If you are walking at night, I advise to take the left-side laneway that runs parallel to the main street.
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No need to walk at any time, hop on an ojek motorcycle taxi located at the busway stop, you'll be there in three minutes, 5000 rp tops.
[QUOTE=Dorman]No need to walk at any time, hop on an ojek motorcycle taxi located at the busway stop, you'll be there in three minutes, 5000 rp tops.[/QUOTE]
Haha, yeah but some people actually like walking - it helps promote a concept known as fitness!
Also, for someone to choose the Busway for 3500Rp (over a taxi) to then pay 5000Rp to save a short walk negates the savings.
Believe it or not, there are budget conscious travellers out there.
(And if you read my post again, you will see I already mentioned the moto-taxi.)
[QUOTE=Menteng]Very good description. In addition I would mention that on sunday afternoon you´ll find the amateur girls sitting and standing near the outside stairs, waiting for an invitation.[/QUOTE]I also noticed there were some girls hanging outside the front of Lokasari Plaza on the right of the entrance steps on Friday at 7pm and seemed to be under direction of an older looking Mamasan. It could have been a mother and 4 daughters but the expressions on their faces said otherwise. Around 2 hours later they were gone.
[QUOTE=Cowboy Mike]I met Ayu in Jakarta back in 2004 and romanced her for 7 months before my contract ended.
Went to her single room place (Sister Julie) was next door in her flat fukin her Indo boyfriend. Sure was a lot of noise.
Ayu said that Julie was a "Sexi Dancer" for D's and gets 1juta per month to shake dat ass.
And a Ass she had. I shagged her only once in 2006 on a return trip.
Anyways, here is Ayu's pic from My Bar Calander 2005.
Love that tight ass body. Dam I gotta get outta Kuala Lumpur and make another Ayam run to D's Place.
Rock On![/QUOTE]
I first met Ayu back in 2001 or 2002 when she first hit D's with her sister. Supposedly it was her first week on the blok, but you never know. Her sister Yuli had worked at Hotel Melawai Maribaya massage 6th floor day shift for a while so I knew her already. Her ass was always an eye catcher there. Ayu is the younger sister (who I never saw working the 6th floor), and Yuli had just quit the 6th and was beginning to ply her trade at D's place. One night at D's, a buddy and I took Yuli and Ayu back to his place where I took Ayu and he took Yuli. Ayu was fairly shy back then and Yuli did all of her talking. (Yuli was half naked back then with her ass hanging out of a sarong, but Ayu was one of those girls who wore a white sweater and jeans and sat in the corner. You can always pick out the new ones when they are wearing those goofy sweaters.) I was a little hesitant at first, but Yuli was a good saleswoman so I went for it. When we got down to it, Ayu was good in bed. I've always thought those girls were a good time, but I haven't been with either of them in years. When I see them now, Yuli always tries to get me to take Ayu home (knowing I wont take Yuli, but might consider Ayu) - reminding me of the old days, but for some reason I always take a pass these days.
I'm guessing the owner of D's must have offered Yuli that million a month after he had a round with her at the 6th floor. Then she dragged her little sister along for the ride. It took Ayu quite a while to start doing the sexy dancing like Yuli. But now she's a star. That inhibition is long gone. :)
I was in D's a couple of months ago and this girl with a great ass was getting all the attention from the crowd during the wet t-shirt contest. I didn't recognize her, but the guys were going nuts over her. All the water from the squirt guns was being shot on her ass. I was thinking I'd like to have a go with that girl, but she'd be too popular that night. Then right after the show, she walks past all the guys who are hounding her and walks over to me and says hello. I couldn't remember who she was, but then realized it was Ayu when Yuli came around the corner and said hello as well and asked if I was going to take her sister home that night. LOL! Ayu is the sexy dancer now it seems. And a good one at that.
I've never done a threesome with them. But I would think that would be nice. They are both sexy girls.
[QUOTE=Cowboy Mike]I met Ayu in Jakarta back in 2004 and romanced her for 7 months before my contract ended. Went to her single room place (Sister Julie) was next door in her flat fukin her Indo boyfriend. Sure was a lot of noise.
Ayu said that Julie was a "Sexi Dancer" for D's and gets 1juta per month to shake dat ass. And a Ass she had. I shagged her only once in 2006 on a return trip.
Anyways, here is Ayu's pic from My Bar Calander 2005. Love that tight ass body. Dam I gotta get outta Kuala Lumpur and make another Ayam run to D's Place.
Rock On![/QUOTE]Thanks Cowboy Mike.
Maybe I'm confusing all that luscious tail, but the pic you posted looks more like sister Julie than Ayu. Doesn't really matter: both have smokin' hot bodies, albeit better nipples than breasts (grin), and there is some family resemblance either way. One thing though is that Julie always used to wear a stunning slim body-chain low on her hips. Never saw her without it in all the times I did her, and it isn't showing in this photo. You may be right.
For anyone who wants to see more, here is the link to the entire MyBar calendar for 2005 (60 pics altogether).
[url]http: //jakartablokm.com/gallery/album-mybar-calendar/index.html[/url]
Just to add to the story of this hot-bodied working girls, Julie (born in Sumatra) once showed me a picture of herself together with her identical twin sister (at that time still in Sumatra and evidently not on the game). Only later did I meet half-sister Ayu. If anyone ever did all three sisters, I want to hear the story (full smile).
Naive me, though. I had no idea these girls history with BlokM went back to 2004 until reading Cowboy Mike's posting. When Julie set me up with Ayu (some time in 2006), I had the impression she was doing a favor for her "new to the Blok" kid sister. I shouldn't be surprised, and it really doesn't matter. Both were excellent hotel guests, and both always stayed the nite with a repeat performance the next morning. For 400k, I always felt fantastically lucky to have shagged them all night.
[QUOTE=Morepoonhound]Naive me, though. I had no idea these girls history with BlokM went back to 2004 until reading Cowboy Mike's posting. [/QUOTE]
You must not have read my post. They go back to 2002. Julie (Yuli) used to work the 6th floor massage at Hotel Melawai back then.
I was thinking the ever famous Putri who now hangs out mostly at Top Gun and My Bar was the girl who has been on the blok the longest as far as the attractive ones go. When Putri was new on the Blok, she used to mainly hang out in D's and Lintas Melawai before My Bar got popular. However, Yuli and Ayu were on the Blok before her. So I guess they get the honor of being the longest standing cute girls on the Blok at the moment.
Normally it seems that the really cute girls disappear after a bit. But Putri, Yuli and Ayu have been around for 5 or 6 years now. There are others who have been regulars on the Blok for longer, but I am not attracted to any of them.
[QUOTE=Smoothy]You must not have read my post. They go back to 2002. Julie (Yuli) used to work the 6th floor massage at Hotel Melawai back then.
Normally it seems that the really cute girls disappear after a bit. But Putri, Yuli and Ayu have been around for 5 or 6 years now. There are others who have been regulars on the Blok for longer, but I am not attracted to any of them.[/QUOTE]Right, Smoothy. You posted about 10 minutes before I did, and the minute I hit the send button saying "no idea these girls history dates back to 2004", I saw your post, and realized that I really did have no clue about their vintage (grin).
But I sure do recognize a first-class pantat, and both these half-sisters have one. The funny thing about them though is that they don't like to meet outside the Blok. At least I could never persuade them. With most working girls, once we have taken each other for a satisfactory test-drive, I exchange phone numbers, and then prefer to have them come straight to my hotel.
Several times though, I called Julie and although she was friendly and nice on the phone, her reply to my suggestion that she come to my hotel was "Look for me at the Blok". Maybe something to do with her dancing gig, or maybe she just isn't that interested in afternoon delight (smile). It seems more like a life-style thing with her. All her friends are at the's Place or nearby, and she would rather drink and party there during opening-hours. So unlike many ladies who go to a club with the intention of finding a man to take them away, Julie and Ayu seem like they go to the club for the evening and want to stay until late. Maybe because they are both confident they will still have punters chasing their tails no matter what time they call it a day.
Smiling again, here I was thinking that I had found a special deal with these two, only to find out that their pussies are more like Changi Airport: everyone has been through it. Pushing that analogy further, it has been a first-class experience every time I've had one of them gripped by the hips while I stroked in from behind. Wonderful!
I've never tried having them visit me off the blok. I don't think I've ever even had either of their phone numbers. That would be one explanation of why they are still there though. My guess is they both have lazy indo boyfriends they are supporting so they have to keep hitting the blok nightly. The girls who disappear from the blok many times hitch up with a bule and are taken off the market. The ones with leeching indo boyfriends need to keep working to support their guy.
Back when Julie (yuli) used to work the 6th floor, I used to have one of her co-workers from the 6th visit me at my place some evenings. Her indo boyfriend would drive her over on a motorcyle. He'd wait outside until we were done then drive her home. LOL!
[quote=correspondent]haha, yeah but some people actually like walking - it helps promote a concept known as fitness!
also, for someone to choose the busway for 3500rp (over a taxi) to then pay 5000rp to save a short walk negates the savings.
[/quote]
fitness? i weave through the traffic of jakarta inhaling nauseous fumes and scraping against suicidal metro-minis in order to drink gallons of fomaldahyde laced beer in darkened smoke filled caverns and shag seriously dodgy oul' slappers in dingy back rooms with christ knows what sort of infectious traces on the beds, floors and in the showers, so to be honest my good health really isn't that much of a priority.
i never take the busway to save money (a taxi fare costs less than the price of a pint of ale back home) but to get about quicker. same with ojeks, i might look like a bule miskin but in fact i'm a man who promised his better half he was only going into the office for an hour or two and now needs to get back from kota or blok m in under fifteen minutes or face the wrath of khan.
[quote=dorman]fitness? i weave through the traffic of jakarta inhaling nauseous fumes and scraping against suicidal metro-minis in order to drink gallons of fomaldahyde laced beer in darkened smoke filled caverns and shag seriously dodgy oul' slappers in dingy back rooms with christ knows what sort of infectious traces on the beds, floors and in the showers, so to be honest my good health really isn't that much of a priority.
i never take the busway to save money (a taxi fare costs less than the price of a pint of ale back home) but to get about quicker. same with ojeks, i might look like a bule miskin but in fact i'm a man who promised his better half he was only going into the office for an hour or two and now needs to get back from kota or blok m in under fifteen minutes or face the wrath of khan.[/quote]ok well it seems you and i are different in some respects.
i have avoided the constraints of a 'better half' for a while now as it impedes the duration and frequency of my mongering needs.
(of course i still have 'girlfriends' in every asian port of call, but after 2-3 days with one of them i feel weighed down with their emotional/financial attachment).
i am well aware of the traffic fumes, chemically infused beer, smoke choked bars and dirty back street brothels that i am exposed to daily, so like a few of my friends, i try to keep myself in shape to counter the side-effects of my nocturnal activities.
[QUOTE=Morepoonhound]Maybe I'm confusing all that luscious tail, but the pic you posted looks more like sister Julie than Ayu.
Naive me, though. I had no idea these girls history with BlokM went back to 2004 until reading Cowboy Mike's posting. When Julie set me up with Ayu (some time in 2006), I had the impression she was doing a favor for her "new to the Blok" kid sister.[/QUOTE]The pic is Julie. My mistake.
I was cruising through Malawai Mall (if you can call it that) and noticed Yulie and a older girl (30's and a factory worker) looking through the cheap bras and panties. Eye contact and they followed. Said Hello and went to Mc D's. Happy Meals for everyone.
The factory worker suggested we go back to Yulie's place and she get some clothes and she follow me to Park Lane.
Fuk Yeah!
Must have been a 45 minute ride and was dropped off at the end of a white brick wall. Walked a dirt trail between the white fence and a wooden fence for 100 yards. Walked into an open compound with children playing.
It was Shock and Aw when I made the corner. They stopped playing and just stood there and looked.
We went up stairs to Yulie's flat. it was 5' x 5' with a dresser and TV on top. Had a throw down mattress. No inside plumbing. I had to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url]. Was directed down stairs to a common sink hole.
All this time I could hear Julie's sister Ayu fukin d local boy. Maybe he was poking her booty cause she was very loud.
Julie grabbed some clothes and stuffed into a paper shopping bag and off we went to Park Lane.
Stayed there for a full week until she went home.
Julie mentioned Ayu had a boyfriend staying in Park Lane. American working at Immigration (Dream Job) and was fukin Ayu regular and he was "giving" her $100 USD per month to keep her from fukin others. Ha! Dont eat dat pussi!!!
Yulie showed me a pic and I immediately recognized the dude begin in Styx. Not sure who was playing who in the relation. He gots chicks and Ayu got other Dicks. :-X
I'm moving to Malaysia in 2005 and have not see Ayu or Julie since. I shall return this August to see D's place and also the other bars.
Hey, If you bored, check out a video I made of a BBBJ bar in Philippies.
[url]http://www.freddyhotdog.com/vids/cowboymike/Philippines/See_How_You_Are.wmv[/url]
Lokasari enthusiasts,
Lokasari is under surveillance (Today Country (TC), H. Prinsen Park, and H. Olympic).
I was there last Sunday afternoon when the California Fried Chicken (CFC) group (mainly Chinese gentlemen) excaped the LE raid at H. Prinsen Park based on tip off.
Just be carefull! Your wellbeing is my concern.
JAKARTA AFTER DARK
I'm visiting Jakarta for the first time at the moment and fortunately I am with a friend who knows the city well. Paid a visit to the girls at Marubaya at the 6th floor, Melawai hotel 2 nights ago and selected 2 girls for my pleasure, the following night was pure decadance. I selected 4 girls and my buddy took 6 away with him. Then plan was for 2 hours by I was full of dust after the 1st hour, my buddy managed to last 1h45m. Then went down town for more beer. What a brilliant night. Very impressed with the standard of girls here and the price is very agreeable.
Smoothy
Out of curiosity as last time I was in Blok M I received threatening phone calls - must have been because my gay friend gave me the number of a lady whose "boyfriend" did not take kindly to her calling me - a long story many moons ago !!
Are all those girls actually patrons of my bar ! Am astounded and shall have to move from my usual rock and crawl up the busway !
A bientot
I never did contact that gay guy so I'm not sure who he has as contacts. I'm betting they are not all blok m girls though. Providing contacts must be somewhat lucrative - they must charge some kind of fee. Even the taxi drivers there on the blok have contacts and have tried to hook me up with various girls on occassion. They get girls numbers all the time and try to pimp them out.
[QUOTE=Correspondent]
I also noticed there were some girls hanging outside the front of Lokasari Plaza on the right of the entrance steps on Friday at 7pm and seemed to be under direction of an older looking Mamasan. It could have been a mother and 4 daughters but the expressions on their faces said otherwise. Around 2 hours later they were gone.[/QUOTE]
They are there every day, but I meant the "real amateurs". Girls looking for additional pocketmoney to buy the latest MP3-player or cellphone.
[QUOTE=Morepoonhound]Thanks Cowboy Mike.
Maybe I'm confusing all that luscious tail, but the pic you posted looks more like sister Julie than Ayu. Doesn't really matter: both have smokin' hot bodies, albeit better nipples than breasts (grin), and there is some family resemblance either way. One thing though is that Julie always used to wear a stunning slim body-chain low on her hips. Never saw her without it in all the times I did her, and it isn't showing in this photo. You may be right.
For anyone who wants to see more, here is the link to the entire MyBar calendar for 2005 (60 pics altogether).
[url]http: //jakartablokm.com/gallery/album-mybar-calendar/index.html[/url]
Just to add to the story of this hot-bodied working girls, Julie (born in Sumatra) once showed me a picture of herself together with her identical twin sister (at that time still in Sumatra and evidently not on the game). Only later did I meet half-sister Ayu. If anyone ever did all three sisters, I want to hear the story (full smile).
Naive me, though. I had no idea these girls history with BlokM went back to 2004 until reading Cowboy Mike's posting. When Julie set me up with Ayu (some time in 2006), I had the impression she was doing a favor for her "new to the Blok" kid sister. I shouldn't be surprised, and it really doesn't matter. Both were excellent hotel guests, and both always stayed the nite with a repeat performance the next morning. For 400k, I always felt fantastically lucky to have shagged them all night.[/QUOTE]
Is this link working? I can't access it.
By the way, last time I went to MyBar, the dancers looked like that Ayu girl. I tried to pick one up, but another girl in our group said they were mostly ladyboys. Could that be true?
Also, has anyone been to the upstairs area of MyBar? What goes on there?
[QUOTE=Brandon88]Is this link working? I can't access it.
By the way, last time I went to MyBar, the dancers looked like that Ayu girl. I tried to pick one up, but another girl in our group said they were mostly ladyboys. Could that be true?
Also, has anyone been to the upstairs area of MyBar? What goes on there?[/QUOTE]
Brandon and others who may have tried to click through: for some reason the auto-editing that Jackslon's software does adds a "//http:%20" to the front of the actual link, when you click it. In the address bar, delete that extra addition, and then the full remaining link works fine.
Or maybe easier to just go out to google and search on the three words: mybar calendar jakarta. Anyway, the Mybar calendar is definitely still online, with 5 snaps for each of 12 ladies.
Don't know about how many of the dancers are he/she's but for sure there are some transsexuals (dicks removed and man-made "pussy" installed) in Mybar. I picked one up once in MyBar, thinking that I had found a real female. I did take him (her?) back to my hotel, but when he stripped off the dress to shower, there were enough clues to set my ladyboy alarm bells ringing.
So before either my tongue or my dick got anywhere near that male body (shudder), I asked straight out "Have you had a sex change operation". He replied "Of course, and that he thought I knew because he was tall, etc."
I gave him taxi-money back to the Blok and 100k for his trouble (it was still early, so there was no drama about lost business). He tried to persuade me to try his "pussy" (what do you call the man-made version?) or at least to let him give a blowjob, but no thanks. I just don't swing that way. Give me the real thing always and only; never a man-made copy.
So I can confirm that there is "some" lady-boy risk in MyBar, but I think they will tell you straight if you ask. Plenty of genuine female tail in there on any night I have ever visited, so still worth going.
[QUOTE=Brandon88]By the way, last time I went to MyBar, the dancers looked like that Ayu girl. I tried to pick one up, but another girl in our group said they were mostly ladyboys. Could that be true?[/quote]
I've never seen a lady boy as a hired dancer in My Bar. Although I've definitely seen lady boys in My Bar. They always seem to hook up with the best looking young guys in the bar so I don't mind them being there. Those guys usually have them up against the bar cuddling, buying them drinks and smootching the night away. I'm not sure what happens when they find out those are lady boys. Regardless, the fact that those guys are taken off the market by the lady boys leaves more girls for me to choose from.
[QUOTE=Brandon88]
Also, has anyone been to the upstairs area of MyBar? What goes on there?[/QUOTE]
Used to have a live band on the 2nd floor and billiards on the 3rd floor, but they closed those floors down since they weren't getting many customers up there.
[QUOTE=Jkt After Dark 2]Lokasari enthusiasts,
Lokasari is under surveillance (Today Country (TC), H. Prinsen Park, and H. Olympic).
I was there last Sunday afternoon when the California Fried Chicken (CFC) group (mainly Chinese gentlemen) excaped the LE raid at H. Prinsen Park based on tip off.
Just be carefull! Your wellbeing is my concern.
JAKARTA AFTER DARK[/QUOTE]
I had a room in the PP last Sunday, I find it very convenient for a few of my contacts up in that neck of the woods, and afterwards went across to TC for a few beers, just beer on this occasion, but saw nothing untoward in fact if anything it seemed busier than normal. Can you give us any details of the raid? Are the cops targetting the girly end of things or the narkoba? If it's the former then I'm staying well clear but if it's the latter then it's not a problem for me.
I hadn't realised that the CFC guys actually constituted an organised group I just thought they were a bunch of good ol' boys out for a bit of afternoon fun.
I thought in raids like this the police always just targeted the ladies and the owners and the punters were relatively safe. Are punters being targeted as well?
[QUOTE=Jkt After Dark 2]Lokasari enthusiasts,
Lokasari is under surveillance (Today Country (TC), H. Prinsen Park, and H. Olympic).
I was there last Sunday afternoon when the California Fried Chicken (CFC) group (mainly Chinese gentlemen) excaped the LE raid at H. Prinsen Park based on tip off.
Just be carefull! Your wellbeing is my concern.
JAKARTA AFTER DARK[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dorman]
I hadn't realised that the CFC guys actually constituted an organised group I just thought they were a bunch of good ol' boys out for a bit of afternoon fun.[/QUOTE]
Indeed they are there for some fun ;). Actually they can provide very, very accomodating information about the girls in and around TC.
In late June, I posted about a new girl working the day shift at Maribaya Spa (6th floor of Hotel Melawai in Blok M) named Ayu, 21 years old. Like many Javanese girls, she is very petite at barely 1.5 meters tall, 42 kgs., very small breasted (she already has one child), and a fresh, eager and enthusiastic performer – a real “spinner” or “fucklet” to use some common slang. Exactly the body type that ISG members Bulai69 and Prof. Designer would like. Only downside was her face – sorry to say it, but while she has a nice smile, Ayu simply is not that pretty. However, I enjoyed my first session with her very much, and had two more sessions with her in July.
Stopped by Maribaya Spa last week only to find that Ayu was off that day. So I ended up picking a somewhat shy new girl named Etty, who had only been working there for a couple of weeks, and I was glad that I did.
Etty is the same age as Ayu, 21, but everything else is different. Etty is from Sumatra and is 1.68 meters tall, 55 kgs., fairly large and very firm breasts (36C bra, has clearly not had any children yet), great legs with no stretch marks, a tremendous body and figure. She’s probably too big for Bulai69’s taste, but I’m sure that he’d admire her anyway.
And the best part is that she has a beautiful face (at least by MP/Spa standards), with gorgeous eyes, certainly the prettiest girl I’ve ever found in my 3 years of visiting the MPs in Indonesia. Etty also speaks decent English and appears very intelligent – in fact, it’s hard to believe that one could find such a girl at a place like Maribaya.
Had a great session with her last week, a real GFE, and have already been back again for a second session this week. She only works the day shift at Maribaya and claims to be bored and do nothing in the evenings, so guys, here’s your chance to spend some time with one of the few real gems in Jakarta MPs! Highly recommended.