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Don,
I am currently trying to work a Curacao-Caracas or a Curacao-Cartejena trip. I believe Avainca has flights to/from Curacao, probably from Bogota though. And, I know there are many flights between Caracas & Curacao, but I'd hate to miss Cart. when I'm so close!
Also, DCA is notoriuos for poor service. They are hard to reach, change flight times constantly, etc... So, you might have more luck with Avianca's service. Having said that, Avianca is currently close to bankrupcy & may be bought out by Continental in the near future (just a rumor).
I know what you mean about the "irregular" routes. I live in Texas, but usually have had to fly thru Miami to get down south. However, I have recently had success flying out of Houston with TACA Air (El Salvador) in getting to C.A. (Belize, Roatan).
Scotty Monger
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Just came back from Curacao and it was a blast. I rented a two bedroom condo through INTAC which cost $950 for 7 nights and included the use of the owners car which was big. You definetly need a car on this island to get around and explore. The beaches I liked the best were Playa Portie Marie and Klein Knip. Both had full service facilites for food and booze. They also had plenty of shade b/c the sun on this island is the strongest I ever felt. You better bring sunscreen 30 or higher.
Ok now to Campo Allegre. The best bang for your buck anywhere in the Carribean. I just hope people do not get stupid and start throwing more money than is neccessary at these girls. This place had some of the hottest chicks I have ever seen and I have been to the thermas in Rio. They are all from Colombia. The price for admission was 10 guilders. This comes out to be $5.55. I was getting an exchange rate of 1.80 at the casino in the Marriot. They did not let you exchange more than $100 a time. That was a better rate than at the bank which was 1.77. The cost of a can of beer 4.25 guilders. The women were 50 guilders for 1/2 hour and 100 for an hour. I usually would go for a 1/2 hour but wound up being in there longer. I only was charged once for staying longer. You should definetly do a walk through the whole complex b/c some girls just sit in there room with there door open or just sit in their doorway. Some are just walking around the complex advertising there assets. They do have a stage by the bar area where some nights they do strip shows. They also have an place where you can exchange your dollars for a rate of 1.75. I paid one girl in dollars once and she wanted 30. The price was rounded up a little bit but at $30 who can argue. I read earlier posts about giving $20 and these girls accepting but that was not the case in this instance. She did gave me change of $10 when I gave her $40. Unlike a domincan who would have tried keep the money or went on with some bullshit story about her mother or kid being sick.
All said a great trip. I went to Campo every night had 2 or 3 girls. The girls were all very pleasant and did not try any scams like you see in the DR or other places. Just be respectful and you should not have any problems. You also were not bothered by the locals at all at the beach or anywhere else like in the DR. They did not try to sell any crap. The locals were very nice and respectful and so were the Dutch that were there also. You can find a q-pasa magizine that tells you the happenings of the island like happy hours. Usually Weds-Sunday at least one place is the place to be among the Dutch and locals. I know Weds-The Music Factory, Thurs-Bananas, Fri- Tu Tu Tango and the Living Room, Sat- Living Room and Sun- early happy hour at Mambo Beach and Wet and Wild. After having the pleasure of meeting Colombian women I would definetly love to go to Colombia but will probably stick to Curacao for now.
If anyone has any specific questions email me and I will be happy to provide any assistance.
backnblack
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Greetings mongers,
Its Monday morning and I arrived on Saturday afternoon, so, first impressions of the island, and then Campo.
Arrival is at the decidedly small and laid back, Hato International. The island is hilly and covered with scrubby vegetation. The soil is sandy and this gives the streets a dusty quality. The infrastructure is good, testament to the Dutch who run the place. The locals look black although they are apparently a melange of many races. They are courteous but lack the jocular way of the Dominicans, for example. The standard of living is high and you can expect to pay US prices for food and drink. Its hot so sunblock is a necessity. No poverty that I can see and I don't get any sense of danger. Everything is well-organized.
Previous reports were 100% correct about needing a car. I have done quite a bit of driving in just two days and I can't imagine having to depend on a taxi to get around.
I'm staying at the Holiday Beach Hotel, previously recommended by Ford, I think. Its about a 3 star. Cost including taxes: about $140/night. Large pool; on a cove; restaurants, gym and casino. A Denny's is part of the complex and its open 24 hours. This is more of an advantage than you might think. Service is fast unlike other eating places here in Curacao which take forever.
Cons: my room faces a lagoon and if I open the sliding glass door to the terrace, the room is invaded by mosquitos. Its not possible to call from the room using a calling card. You have to go to a single phone located in another part of the hotel. A purely personal anecdote is my inability to get a remote for the TV.
OK. So on Saturday night at about 9pm, I went to Campo. Its on a back road near the airport and about 15 minutes away from the hotel. Usually there is a big electric sign in the shape of a palm to guide you, but it wasn't on on Saturday night and I had to ask four people the way. Everyone was courteous and there was not wink wink stuff. Its a dutch island and its quite normal to want to get laid.
Campo looks like a resort complex. There is a wall around the complex and it it about $5 to enter. Upon entering, there are many single-story, motel-like structures with numbered rooms. The girls live and work out of these rooms. There are very nice plantings, pavings, lighting fixtures etc. It feels like a nice resort. There is a dance floor and bar and a place to eat.
The problem is that even with, I'm guessing, 300+ rooms, there were very few girls in evidence. Some scantily-clad girls were making their way from their rooms to the cafe, and a few had their doors open, but maybe there 20 girls there, tops! There were about 20-30 men in various groups, at the bar or sitting at tables, chatting. Loud music was playing. The place had the feeling of going to see a show at an arena which is only 10% full.
I started walking the walkways between the buildings. A few girls made come hither gestures but I didn't see anything I liked. It took only about 5-7 minutes to walk the whole place. I returned to the main area and bought a bottle of water and waited. A few hotties were walking from their rooms to the central area but short of intercepting them, I wasn't sure how to meet them. The place was built to handle about 10x the current activity. It had an empty feeling.
Getting bored, I decided to walk the place again. This time, I saw a dark-haired, very attractive, though overweight chica in her room and went in. Maritza is from Medellin and we hit it off immediately. What followed was the longest, slowest, most pleasureable bj I have ever had, and I have had many. After, we talked. She verified everything that Tbird and Ford and others had posted earlier. The three month contract, hours, prices etc. She also told me about the competition among the girls and how they were companeras, not amigas. We got along so well, so that when it was time to leave and I asked to see her the next day, she naturally said yes. At this point, I have to pause to thank the other mongers who posted here, because I knew exactly how the script would read and felt comfortable at every step.
On Sunday, I picked up Maritza and we went exploring the island. She repeatedly referred to the Campo as a prison, although in a light-hearted manner. She said that many of the customers don't even have sex, but like to talk, have a massage, or even do drugs. Her take on the different nationalities was interesting. Apparently, the Latinos are the worst for the girls because they take so long. They take forever to come and seem to want to just keep on banging.
Other posters were correct in assuming that the girls would welcome a day out to explore the island with a friendly guy. We spent Sunday afternoon driving to different places including the spectacular national park, lunch and then back to my hotel. No problem bringing a chica back to the Holiday Beach btw. I returned Maritza back to the Camp a 5:59pm and headed back to my hotel. I was in bed by 10pm and didn't have the time to go to Campo again. We'll see about today.
More to follow,
Don
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On Monday afternoon, I once again picked up Maritza at Campo at about 1pm. She wanted to bring another girl and that was ok with me. But I told her over the phone that I wanted to bang her before we left Campo to avoid a situation where we might have to rush back to Campo to beat the 6pm deadline. If the girls are late, they have to pay heavy fines that run to the hundreds of dollars. So, having completed the deed, we set off.
Along the way, the girls were discussing the Campo situation. Apparently, they have to pay $55 per day, regardless of whatever. They are not allowed outside the compound unless they have first paid the $55. The girls pay their own airfare and can leave at any time. They must also purchase their food at Campo. Later that afternoon, we went to a Fridays restaurant by Mambo Beach, a fifteen minute drive from Willemstad. The girls wanted to doggybag some of the food, but insisted that the waiter put it in aluminum foil and thus make it easier to smuggle into Campo for later consumption.
I inquired of a hotel employee about other venues on the island. He mentioned 'Moulin Rouge' in Fuik, which is at the eastern end of the island. I asked about opportunities for banging the local Curacao girls and he said that some of them were on the program and could be found in discos and casinos. I haven't followed up on this as I don't like to have to hunt for pussy. It should be noted that many of the local girls are seriously obese just like their cousins in the US. Though friendly and courteous, they are notably slow-moving. If the Dutch left Curacao, the place would look like Santo Domingo by Christmas, that's for sure.
Monday night I go the urge again and went across the street to Havana Vieja, a strip club. There were three desultory-looking girls hanging over the bar. I looked and left immediately. It was about 8:30pm so perhaps it was too early.
Continuing on this monger quest, I returned to Campo. This time there about 50 clients and many more girls in evidence than Saturday. Guys were just walking around, checking the merchandise. I stayed at the opposite end from Maritza's room. Knowing what I now know, I noticed a touch of desperation on the part of some girls.
Finally, I selected Diana from Barranquilla, a striking dark Colombiana. She asked for the money up front--a bad sign. Her contract was up on Thursday and she was returning to Colombia. She told me that they have to stay away for 6 months before they can do another 3 month tour, and she definitely intended to come back. She was distant and obviously not into it. Pretty soon, neither was I. Covered, listless blowjob, and she was positioned as far from me as possible. She wouldn't suck on my nuts neither. Now I believe in treating the girls right. Take them out to dinner and have fun and all that. But when I meet a ballbuster, I know how to act too. I told her that if she would lap at my nuts, I would jack off. She readily agreed, knowing that this would be over real soon. What she didn't know was that when I shoot, as punishment, I make sure that some of the leche ends up on her face, hair or both. Sure enough, when I finished, she leaped up from the bed and ran to the sink, coughing like crazy. I laughed and laughed, which she didn't appreciate. It was a great monger moment. Buena suerte Diana.
Been doing some tourist stuff. Willemstad has beautiful old houses in Dutch architectural style, and in many exotic colors. Narrow steets, very quaint. At night, the sky is lit by the fires from the huge refinery which make an incredible backdrop to the old town. All in all, a very nice island.
Later,
Don
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Don,
Excellent reports, and please keep them coming. There are very few up-to-date reports of Campo Alegre. You had me worried when you mentioned that there were only about 20 girls there on Saturday night. I'm glad to hear that you saw more the next night. Most guys have stated that there are usually about 100 girls on site, on any given night.
BTW, I highly recommend the Cas Abou beach if you want to take another chicka(s) swimming, etc. It's on the south shore about 15 miles west of Willemstad. Costs a couple of bucks per person, but they have a bar/grill, restrooms, showers, palapas, etc.
I'm about to book my 2 week diving/mongering trip to Curacao for late this summer. Enjoy!
Scotty Monger
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To Dashing Don and backnblack,
I am very glad that you both had/are still having a great time in Curacao! It is very nice to hear that this island has remained largely unchanged since my three trips there in 2002. Thank you also Don for giving me some credit in your report for helping you on your trip. re: day trips and the Holiday Beach Hotel. :)
I feel certain that Iwill return to Curacao again someday soon - but my dance card is full right now with other locations to put on my resume. So many places so little time. ;)
BTW you forgot to include your review of Amstel Bright and Polar beer!
Cheers
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Ford,
Yes I did forget to mention Amstel Bright. I loved it very much. It reminds me of Corona. I was pissed off Campo did not have any.
Dashing Don,
I agree the Dutch do I good job with the island. I hope they do not leave and it does not become a banana republic. I know Aruba left the Netherlands Antilles a few years ago and have had no problems. Aruba is a lot more commercialized so I would think Curacao would have to be also if they were to be as successfull. I think that would ruin the island.
Does anyone reccommend any other Dutch islands to monger on?
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Check out St. Martin/St. Maarten, which is 1/2 French & 1/2 Dutch. You get two different European cultures on one island. I know there are brothels on the island, but don't have any specifics.
When I was in Curacao in '02, the only beer I would drink was Amstel Bright. It's a perfect light & refreshing Caribbean beer, and definately reminds me of Corona, which is all I drink here in Texas. The native Dutch were bitching at the time that they couldn't get Amstel Bright in the Netherlands. They do make an Amstel "Light" there, but they said it wasn't the same.
Aruba, IMHO, is just another Cancun, full of American tourists and windsurfers. It has lost most of its "native appeal". The Arubans made a conscience decision to go this way, when they sought their quasi-independece.
Bonaire has no P4P action to my knowledge. It's the least developed island, geared almost totally toward the SCUBA diver.
Scotty Monger
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Good recent reports on Curacao. I was also glad to hear that the chica count went up the next night that Don was there (makes me wonder where they were the night before?) I was there last fall and had a great time. Lots of Columbianas to pick from and being americano I think places you in demand at Campo vs. local guys. I am thinking about going again this spring, or maybe trying St. Maarten. Sure do like the one stop shop format of Campo though.
One of the locals turned me on to Polar Beer from Venezuela. I thought it was better than Amstel Bright IMHO.
FYI--Got an airfare alert from Travelocity that fares have just dropped for spring travel.
Thanks to Ford and Tbird for turning me on to Curacao. Amo Columbianas! If I learn some more espanol, I will try Cartagena.
Dave
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You guys make a good point. Where do all women go on the slow nights? I know Fri-Sun were the rocking nights. I never saw twenty chicks like Don. It was at least fifty or more. I think they were just staying in their room and chilling on the slow nights. I talked to a couple of them and they said they just watch TV in their room. Does anybody have any inside scoop of what they do on the slow nights?
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I have been to Aruba, Bonaire and of course Curacao and I think Scotty Monger's review of these three islands is pretty much right on target! I have never been to St. Marteen but from what I have heard from people who have gone I think it ranks as a solid #2 behind Curacao as far as "fun" spots to explore in the Dutch Caribbean.
I went to a beach party once at Mambo Beach and they advertised Amstel Bright as the "Corona killer" because the taste was so similar. Really enjoyed Polar Beer thought it had a kind of Beck's beer vibe to it. I thought most amazing is that the regular Amstel Beer sold in Curacao is made right there on the island is billed as a product of the Netherlands Antilles and is made of distilled sea water. This always amazed me - great beer too!
Meanwhile I'm up here in the northeast and they're calling for snow tonight.......depressing isn't it?! :(
Cheers
FORD
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I'm happy to report that on subsequent visits to Campo, including last night (Friday), there were plenty of girls around. The Curacao local/caucasian ratio was 70/30, down from 90/10. Every girl I've talked to complains about the Curacaolano 'cochinos' who don't wash and want it all for 25 guilders. The girls are happy to meet the gringos and I'm ecstatic about meeting them.
Like the other posters have said, there seems to be a girl for every taste here. Big, small, fat, big culo, little titties etc. Last night, I saw a monger's jaw drop. I turned to look at what he was looking at: this huge, tall black chick with the biggest butt ever, wearing a tiny pair of pink panties and a small top. It was so over the top it was funny. It was f--ing outrageous. If that thing rolled over on you in bed, no team of surgeons could put you back together. But thats Campo.
Took a day trip to Bonaire yesterday. A day or two previous, one of the Campo girls told me that she 'worked' there for 5 days a couple of years ago. She said to ask a taxi driver where to go. Went by her room, #154, last night to ask her where the action is, now that I am somewhat familiar with the island. Her door was closed and I could hear a lot of 'pappi pappi' stuff going on, so I moved on.
Although the flight from Curacao to Bonaire is only 15 minutes and they are both Dutch islands, one must line up to pay an airport tax ($6 approx); wait in a long line to go through security; produce a passport, ID etc. A real pain in the ass. Dutch Caribbean Air's twenty three-year-old plane had technical problems etc. so, more delays. The nosedive descent into Bonaire had the entire plane screaming, except the DCA flight attendant who was laughing.
For all that, Bonaire is an incredible place, expecially for snorkelers and divers. 13,000 population according to Lonely Planet and it does seem that way. The main town, Kralendijk, has waterfront bars with water views that rival those South Pacific ads with unbelievable water clarity. One of the bars had a Colombian bartender and two Colombian customers. So, where there's Colombianas, there's......fun to be had. I only had a day so I couldn't really check it out.
Regarding those Amstels, it should be noted that the bottles come in 8.5 oz, not the 12oz we get in the States. This means that the $3 beer in Campo is really $4.50 or so. The alcolhol content is 5%. I think that the max allowed in the US is 3% or 4%. Maybe this is what is behind the rave reviews of Amstel :)
Later,
Don
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Dashing Don wrote:
this huge, tall black chick with the biggest butt ever, wearing a tiny pair of pink panties and a small top.......If that thing rolled over on you in bed, no team of surgeons could put you back together.
:D ROFL .....ROFL (You have me in stitches!)
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A few possibly annoying details:
I do not think the girls MUST purchase their food at Campo. It is simply that they may not have a choice. There is a small Colombian place called La Cascada very popular with the chicas which is a couple of miles down the road. But the girls do not have cars. Just a few minutes in an air-conditioned car, but try walking this distance in 90-degree weather. I sure wouldn't. So if a chica does not have a ride for the next day she has to buy food at Campo.
I just remembered an amusing detail from my last trip -as we (yours truly and "my" chica) were getting into the car at la Cascada to go to the beach two other chicas came out and asked for a ride back to Campo. Before I could even open my mouth my chica rather angrily said "No, we are going to the beach!". At this point I had to intervene, because the thought of the two lovely Colombianas walking up the dusty road just broke my heart :-)
My chica was quite pissed and only relaxed when we unloaded the other two and she was sure they would not be "leeching on to us" for the remainder of the day.... LOL
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Back in NYC tonight, Sunday, and I'm already reminiscing about the trip.
An amazing thing about Curacao are the Trade Winds that constantly buffet the island. The winds cool the island considerably and keep the humidity down. One moment its cloudy and cool; the next, the sun is beating down relentlessly. But thats ok because a minute or two later, the wind will blow more clouds across to again block the sun temporarily. If you are in the shade, whether its shining or not, you'll be cool and pleasantly massaged by these winds. Nights are perfect; windy and fresh. I never used the air conditioning, day or night. Before going to Curacao I thought that the climate in Southern California was the ultimate, but I have to rethink that.
Not too many americans in Curacao. Thats fine by me. Mostly all the caucasians appear to be Dutch. But we look alike. Several times I was spoken to in Dutch by people who assumed that I was one of them. I am-----in spirit.
Some thoughts on Campo:
The girls have a $55 nut to cover every day, exclusive of food and other expenses. These means that they have to turn tricks and when you finish, they expect you to leave so they can get ready for the next client. This may or may not appeal to some guys. I have mongered in Thailand and the Philippines where time isn't much of a factor. Campo is different. If you want to hang with a girl, then a day date is probably the way to do it.
Saturday night was my last night so I swung by and saw Maritza, the paisa from Medellin. Surprisingly, she told me that Fridays and Saturdays are often slow because many of the clients go to the 'camisa mojada' (wet tshirt) contests at Mambo Beach and other places. This probably explains the lack of action on my first night, which was a Saturday.
Tbird--you'r probably right in correcting my statement that the chicas 'must purchase their food at Campo.' Its more correct to say that they cannot bring any food into Campo that they purchased outside. I had brought two of the girls out during the day and we had lunch. When the waiter doggybagged the girls food in styrofoam containers (which would be hard to conceal), the girls had him put the food in aluminum foil, which is easier to smuggle.
All in all, a great trip. I'll definitely go back, perhaps doing a midweek side trip of two or three days to Bonaire, where truly, the water is an incredible shade of blue.
Don