Taipei

[QUOTE=Ace Gallant]Guybert,

I think different countries has their differences. Different monger has different taste as well. I don't think it is fair to compare Apple to Oranges.

You also forgotten to mention:

Shanghai Saunas has:

1) Younger working girls; 26 year old there is considered OLD.......
2) Shanghai Saunas in general charges cheaper for th packages. 500RMB (2000NT) - 1000RMB (4000NT)
3) There are many more Saunas that provides full services in Shanghai.

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Totally agree with you there AG, the are some real stunners in Shanghai saunas and they are cheaper (the place I used to go to charged a flat 600 RMB) or MPs that range from 150 to 250 RMP, and the girls there are even younger but much less enthusiastic. And sometimes give good service, especially if you see the same girl more than once.

But then they start getting all clingy and saying things about wanted to be my GF, wanting to have my baby (even going as far as pulling off my condom), etc. So my experience is that they are looking for a way out and if you are a half decent human being, they will try hard as hell to land you. Taiwan girls seem to have much better defined boundaries, they fuck you and leave. Never had one offer to leave me their number (hold on, I take that back, there was ONE). But once you know these girls they will give you special services. For example, the Asiaworld Ceasers girl I see regularly now will give me a BBBJ even though the company prohibits it. And I have had girls offer me anal without me even asking. So, I do tend to like Taiwan WG better, "professional" service with perks but no attachments.

Just my two NT.

[QUOTE=Janggo]Waiting for that report on taichung. Went down there a few month but didn't get any action. Btw. Can anyone put some feedback on any places to visit while in tainan. Going down there tomorrow for the rest of the week.

Thanks brothers.[/QUOTE]

There is defientely a top rated sauna in Taichung that after the usual hot/cold pool action will have the attendants taking you to upper floor where in small rooms you are massaged by a girl.
The girl is sent by the establishment, but you have the chance to reject her and have another choice.
All is also down to the language barrier (hard if you do not speak chinese).
I have been there twice and overall good experience.
Girls do quite a complete routine, including AR and fire/ice, then to the FJ.
Once I had a great laugh when she said "turn over" and I understood "game's over". I was about to freak ou tthat back massage is not rated sex by myself, then she said it a third time in more intelligible way and ... down to work as in the meantime she stripped off her clothes.
Sorry can't post the name as I was hosted and do not have a clue on lcoation or western name (if any) but said t obe the best sauna in twon. Maybe your hotel concierge can help.

Will be in BKK 12/8-12/12; Hong Kong 12/12-12/14; Shenzhen 12/14-12/16; and Taiwan 12/17-12/19.

Anyone want to get together? PM me.

I am going to Taipei with some friends on Nov 12-15 and will likely to stay at San Want Hotel. 2nd trip to Taipei but nothing happened on my first trip. :-(
Any interesting places nearby the hotel?

Any information and suggestion will be appreciated

I go off to Beijing and the entire Taipei forum fall silent. Only people asking for help and directions but offering nothing. Do AG and I have to do all the posting on places and services beside the default "Yuki" experience.

Come on guys, its not that dead out there. Let show a little spirit for crying out loud. I mean Japanese business men LOVE it here, there has to be something. So go out there and pound the pavement, pound the girls and then tell us about it.

[QUOTE=Ragnarok42]I go off to Beijing and the entire Taipei forum fall silent. Only people asking for help and directions but offering nothing. Do AG and I have to do all the posting on places and services beside the default "Yuki" experience.

Come on guys, its not that dead out there. Let show a little spirit for crying out loud. I mean Japanese business men LOVE it here, there has to be something. So go out there and pound the pavement, pound the girls and then tell us about it.[/QUOTE]Well, I think that part of the problem is that Taiwan is generally not very English friendly, so when you discover a new place, it's usually a local who takes you - even AG and Bnlee are partially guilty of this. And when you have really on a good "pimp" contact that you trust, you're not gonna indiscriminately pass that contact info to someone who you don't know personally and can vouch for. Even if you did, there's probably only a 50% chance that the contact will help the newbie.

The other problem is that directions in Taiwan are fuzzy at best and are generally by landmark and 123 Zhongshan Zhong Lu might be three blocks away from 124 Chungshan Chung Lu. So even if you find a spot on your own, good luck trying to find it again.

Finally, seems like Taiwanese love the idea of "under the table" as in, will never provide exact details but would prefer to refer to places by nickname, as in "7th floor" or "Tony's place".

[QUOTE=Ragnarok42]I go off to Beijing and the entire Taipei forum fall silent. Only people asking for help and directions but offering nothing. Do AG and I have to do all the posting on places and services beside the default "Yuki" experience.

Come on guys, its not that dead out there. Let show a little spirit for crying out loud. I mean Japanese business men LOVE it here, there has to be something. So go out there and pound the pavement, pound the girls and then tell us about it.[/QUOTE]Sorry guys I cannot post reports of Taipei when I have nothing new to report. Especially when I do not live in Taipei and only come in for a couple of days per month. Besides, if I do come into Taipei, a lot of my nights are taken up by my suppliers pulling me to drinking sessions in KTV. I think KTVs are pretty much well covered here so I do not need to post more of these KTVs places.

What I would love to do more in my next few trips is to find more new places, Saunas, BBSs, and "Places of Interest" to us mongers (of course besides the KTVs).

I had not finish writting the reports on my trip to Taichung and thus I only have one post there. Watch out for more.

Enjoy!

AG

[QUOTE=Neuromancer]Well, I think that part of the problem is that Taiwan is generally not very English friendly, so when you discover a new place, it's usually a local who takes you - even AG and Bnlee are partially guilty of this. And when you have really on a good "pimp" contact that you trust, you're not gonna indiscriminately pass that contact info to someone who you don't know personally and can vouch for. Even if you did, there's probably only a 50% chance that the contact will help the newbie.

The other problem is that directions in Taiwan are fuzzy at best and are generally by landmark and 123 Zhongshan Zhong Lu might be three blocks away from 124 Chungshan Chung Lu. So even if you find a spot on your own, good luck trying to find it again.

Finally, seems like Taiwanese love the idea of "under the table" as in, will never provide exact details but would prefer to refer to places by nickname, as in "7th floor" or "Tony's place".[/QUOTE]Neuromancer, I agree with you partially only.

Speaking of English unfriendliness I think China is worst off. In my trips to Taiwan (since 1980's) I always found the locals to be much more English speaking than any where in North Asia. Even in China that they study 4 years of English in High school, the people there are hesitant to speak English. IMHO: Taipei is much well off in acccepting an English speaking person than many other Asian countries.

As for the directions, I cannot agree with you more, but with the exceptions of Shanghai. Taipei's roads and directions are bad, their numbering is way off! Even Taxi drivers that had been in business for many years found it difficult to find a certain place by the addresses.

Finally on the Under-table behaviour; I cannot comment much but, I had found this to be true in China also. The worst part is; in the China board, there are many wankers who post reports not for the purpose of information to brothers but use the board as a form of bragging or as a form of fullfillment to boast their Ego. I had stopped posting in the South China thread because of this, it is pointless to post information when you were be sure that there will be someone on the same thread who tries to flame you in their quest to boast their ego. Since there is someone who knows better, let him post those mis-information and mis-lead newbies. There is no need for real information. Time will tell on what are real inforamtion.

In my POV; Taiwan thread are pretty clean of all these nonsense posts, beside the fact that there will always be people posting and asking for information, there are very little flaming posts. Informational posts here are good and had helped me found what I wanted in my past trips. So let's just keep it this way.

Enjoy!

AG

[QUOTE=Ace Gallant]Neuromancer, I agree with you partially only.

Speaking of English unfriendliness I think China is worst off. In my trips to Taiwan (since 1980's) I always found the locals to be much more English speaking than any where in North Asia. Even in China that they study 4 years of English in High school, the people there are hesitant to speak English. IMHO: Taipei is much well off in acccepting an English speaking person than many other Asian countries.

As for the directions, I cannot agree with you more, but with the exceptions of Shanghai. Taipei's roads and directions are bad, their numbering is way off! Even Taxi drivers that had been in business for many years found it difficult to find a certain place by the addresses.

Finally on the Under-table behaviour; I cannot comment much but, I had found this to be true in China also. The worst part is; in the China board, there are many wankers who post reports not for the purpose of information to brothers but use the board as a form of bragging or as a form of fullfillment to boast their Ego. I had stopped posting in the South China thread because of this, it is pointless to post information when you were be sure that there will be someone on the same thread who tries to flame you in their quest to boast their ego. Since there is someone who knows better, let him post those mis-information and mis-lead newbies. There is no need for real information. Time will tell on what are real inforamtion.

In my POV; Taiwan thread are pretty clean of all these nonsense posts, beside the fact that there will always be people posting and asking for information, there are very little flaming posts. Informational posts here are good and had helped me found what I wanted in my past trips. So let's just keep it this way.

Enjoy!

AG[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the responses folks. So there is life here just very quiet. I do agree with AG that this forum is relatively civil with little flaming and not much chest beating. Taiwan is pretty quiet compared to China or Thailand. But that makes any discovery all the more rewarding.

Will continue my intrepid searching for the allusive stunning WG and anything interesting I will definately make available to all the brothers. But seems like the action is down south. Will try to get my ass down there when I can slip away from the family. Look forward to hearing about all your adventures here and down south.

Rag42

[QUOTE=Ragnarok42]...Come on guys, its not that dead out there. Let show a little spirit for crying out loud. I mean Japanese business men LOVE it here, there has to be something. So go out there and pound the pavement, pound the girls and then tell us about it.[/QUOTE]Per my understanding, Japanese men love hostessbars. You will find them very easily on Lin Shen North Road begininng south from Nanjin West Road to north of Ming Quan West Road. Hostessbars are very expensive in Japan. They are cheaper here in Taipei. The girls are trained to service these Japnese customers so Japanese is not a problem. I guess some people like the instant romance and get to know each other before the real thing. Per my understanding, a lot of time, the customers just like to talk to the girls, fondle them, but not necessarily take them out for sex. I have posted info about the best hostess bar, Long Hen, in Asia World. But it's really more like KTV hostess lounge, whereas the hostess bars on Lin Shen North Road are just like the ones in Japan. Ever player Yakuza or Yakuza2 on PS2? Then you will know very well how the Japanese hostess bars work. A lot of guys go to these places to get worked up, sort of like going to strip bars in US. Then they either go home or go to massage parlor(saunas in TW) to take care of their needs.

Taiwan use to be abundant in sex services before 1992. You could find Soap service like those in Japan everywhere in Taipei. I think it was after President Lee, who is a Christian, came into power that he banned prostitution. There's been talk of making San Chong of Taipei County into a special sex district by blue Presidential Candidate Ma and Taipei County Minister a year ago. Haven't heard anything else since.

In Taipei, you only have these choices:

1. Hostess bar, Hostess KTV Lounge--- cost US$500 and up ( the details have already been explained so I won't elaborate)

2. Saunas. I have been pretty much every sauna here in Taipei. It all works the same way but the one in Asia World is the biggest, cleanest, and most relaxing. Cost about US$120~150 (Reported before)

3. Barbershops. Brightly lited ones have no extra. Those that do have dark windows tend to have specials. Some offer hand jobs for around US$75. Some offer FS for around US$100. (Reported before)

4. Pimp/Call girl services like Yuki which cost about US$100 (Reported before)

5. Aged WG around Long Shan temple for quickies around US$20 and up~(Reported before)

6. Quickies in San Chong metal sheet shacks for US$30. (there's been detailed reports on this on this board.)

7. Freebies in hip bars and clubs.(Reported before)

So I am not sure what more is Ragnorak 42 looking for. People keep it quiet b/c prostitution is illegal here.

There's no soap service in Taipei but it's availble in Taichung, which has also been reported. Most hotels in Taipeir also doesn't pimp girls for you unless you go to those very run down one hidden in some alleys near Long Shan Temple or Ximending.

I personally choose sauna as it's the easiest, you get serviced, and most economical. I don't see why I need to post everytime I go as it's pretty routine what kind of service you get over there. Know what I mean? It's like getting Whopper w/Cheese. Somedays it tastes better and sometimes it tastes bad. But it just a Cheese buger, what else can be said about it? Does that help?

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[QUOTE=Ragnarok42]Thanks for the responses folks. So there is life here just very quiet. I do agree with AG that this forum is relatively civil with little flaming and not much chest beating. Taiwan is pretty quiet compared to China or Thailand. But that makes any discovery all the more rewarding.

Will continue my intrepid searching for the allusive stunning WG and anything interesting I will definately make available to all the brothers. But seems like the action is down south. Will try to get my ass down there when I can slip away from the family. Look forward to hearing about all your adventures here and down south.

Rag42[/QUOTE]Rag,

Perhaps in my next trip to Taiwan we can do a weekend trip down south together and any member who are interested can join in the fun?

Enjoy!

AG

[QUOTE=windwalker]Per my understanding, Japanese men love hostessbars. You will find them very easily on Lin Shen North Road begininng south from Nanjin West Road to north of Ming Quan West Road. Hostessbars are very expensive in Japan. They are cheaper here in Taipei. The girls are trained to service these Japnese customers so Japanese is not a problem. I guess some people like the instant romance and get to know each other before the real thing. Per my understanding, a lot of time, the customers just like to talk to the girls, fondle them, but not necessarily take them out for sex. I have posted info about the best hostess bar, Long Hen, in Asia World. But it's really more like KTV hostess lounge, whereas the hostess bars on Lin Shen North Road are just like the ones in Japan. Ever player Yakuza or Yakuza2 on PS2? Then you will know very well how the Japanese hostess bars work. A lot of guys go to these places to get worked up, sort of like going to strip bars in US. Then they either go home or go to massage parlor(saunas in TW) to take care of their needs.[/QUOTE]WW,

I lived over 5 years in Tokyo and during that time I own a Hostress bar (Take out type). 50% of my girls are from China, 20% are Japanese, 15% from Eastern Europe and 15% from Phillippines. The system of payment is such that, they pay 10,000 yen (US$100) for 4 hours (8pm - 12am) of drinks, house wines or House whiskly. Any else they will pay bar price (1000Yen for a beer). If they decide to stay past 12am, they pay another 10,000yen for the next 4 hours. The hostress sit with the customer for free, sing karaoke, drink etc. You can buy lady drinks at 1000yen each (US$10), the girls get a commission of 400yen (US$4) each. If the customer likes the girl, they bring them off for a quickie at 30,000yen (US$300) for 2 hours at a nearby Love hotel. or 40,000yen (US$400) for LT (0vernight). A typical customer who comes in at 9 -10pm brings a girl out for LT will cost him only 50,000yen (US$500) for the whole night.

Having said the above, the prices in Japan is not more expensive than in Taiwan neither it is prices that the Japanese is concern about.

Ever heard of the Japanese Sex convention in Zhuhai back in the year 2002? The Japanese just likes to try out different girls from different countries (Don't we all do?) But besides that; you are right in saying; "some people like the instant romance and get to know each other before the real thing", 99% of my Japanese customers are for sure into this.

Taiwan has very much of the cultures the Japanese left behind after the war. So I am not surprise a lot of these stuff are very simliar to what is available in Japan. An Example is the Love Hotel I had reported in the Taichung threads.

Enjoy!

AG

[QUOTE=Ace Gallant]Neuromancer, I agree with you partially only.

Speaking of English unfriendliness I think China is worst off. In my trips to Taiwan (since 1980's) I always found the locals to be much more English speaking than any where in North Asia. Even in China that they study 4 years of English in High school, the people there are hesitant to speak English. IMHO: Taipei is much well off in acccepting an English speaking person than many other Asian countries.[/QUOTE]One advantage that China has over Taiwan is the use of pinyin. From what I've experienced, most places in China it's commonly used it so if you're Mandarin-illiterate, you at least have something to work with and only need to guess which tone. And most of the roads (that I've seen anyway) will have pinyin if the shop doesn't. Of course Taiwan also uses some limited pinyin but it's extremely inconsistent (though, I suppose, phonetically more correct), and from what I've seen, is really only used on streets, almost never for a shop.

AG and Rag

learnt a lot of you both reg. the scene in Taipei.

I went twice down south, once with a taiwanese friend. But I didn't find any activity. Furthermore I didn't have too much time to stay longer. Therefore I wasn't very active to find places, more like looking around a little bit.

Would be great to join such a trip.

Whomer

[QUOTE=Whomer]AG and Rag

learnt a lot of you both reg. the scene in Taipei.

I went twice down south, once with a taiwanese friend. But I didn't find any activity. Furthermore I didn't have too much time to stay longer. Therefore I wasn't very active to find places, more like looking around a little bit.

Would be great to join such a trip.

Whomer[/QUOTE]

Looks like us boys have to have a trip down south. Just have to shake loose the ol' "ball and chain" for a weekend ;-p

Taipei is fairly consistent, nothing happening. They really did a good job of cleaning up after Pres. Lee took over. So don't know how long they are going to turn a blind eye to Taichung, everyone knows about the place...

Lets hope things pick up over here. I am always dissappointed returning to Taipei after my China trips. Even when the People's Congress was going on it was better than what Taipei is like now. Lets talk when I get back and see what kind of trouble we can get ourselves into.

Rag42