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I Agree with Miamiheat
Having been to Sosua numerous times, and having met her/their family/ies more than once, the rule of Three F's (find 'them, fuck 'them, forget 'them) seems to be the best approach. As a rule $1000 short time and $2000 'toda la noche' is more than fair. Bartenders seem to fetch higher prices, and I don't normally go with them.
I bring gifts of girlie stuff (lipstick, hair ornaments), and 'regalo' them at irregular intervals. "Here is $1500 pesos for the 'salon' (hairdresser)".
Another day or 2 may pass before another gift is forthcoming (a cheap knock off watch from China). This seems to work best for me. The girls like me, and genuinely look out for me. The gifts are in addition to, not in lieu of money.
I have also given out some more valuable gifts when it seemed appropriate (English/Spanish talking electronic dictionary to a girl who was serious about learning English, real 'name brand' perfume to a chambermaid who requested it). There is one important bit of advice which I would like to offer. Never tell them when you are leaving town. When they ask you can either be evasive or if necessary lie and tell them that you are staying longer than you really are.
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[QUOTE=Forever Detroit]Day 2
Only disappointment was I thought all the chicas were not very emotional. I always thought latin women were very emotional with there sexuality. Walked Ms. 9. 5 home in the morning and she gave me her cell #. Told me she wanted another T. L. N. Tonight, told her I would call her, right. Wen't fishing.
F. D.[/QUOTE]I just got back from my 1st DR trip on the south coast and I can honestly say that me speaking decent Espanol made all the difference in my experiences with chicas and avoiding the local vendors, peddlers and other harassers. I had nothing but top notch GFE experiences because I was able to connect to chicas on a personal level. I spent at least 1 hour w/ each chica prior sex just talking and flirting. Putas are like non P4P women in the regard that a little finesse will go a long way. Show or just even fake a little bit of interest in them and they will happily go the extra mile to please you for far less than standard pricing.
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[QUOTE=Blackknight]I just got back from my 1st DR trip on the south coast and I can honestly say that me speaking decent Espanol made all the difference in my experiences with chicas and avoiding the local vendors, peddlers and other harassers. I had nothing but top notch GFE experiences because I was able to connect to chicas on a personal level. I spent at least 1 hour w/ each chica prior sex just talking and flirting. Putas are like non P4P women in the regard that a little finesse will go a long way. Show or just even fake a little bit of interest in them and they will happily go the extra mile to please you for far less than standard pricing.[/QUOTE]
Don't forget the non-pro you stumble upon just because you can talk to her.
I'm spending countless hours with the Spanish books and software for the sole purpose of accomplishing exactly what you did. I'm stuck with verb pronuciation.
Can someone reccomend software that has audio where I can HEAR all those verb tenses. If I hear it, I can be a parrot and say it. The key to the language seems to be mastering the verbs.
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Hello together
Its beeing a while since my last report here. I've went to Sosua several times and I really like it there. My plan are to move over and stay there for ever.
I know a lot of people leaving there and many of the putas too. I treat them nicely and can speak some spanish. I talk with them directly and sometimes I hear stories from them which I hardly can believe. I try several time to have a gf there to stay the hole of my holiday and even keep in contact when I'm back home in Switzerland.
Its nice when someone decides to send them money from overseas, but like the other here talking, don't think the girls are just waiting when you come back.
Here are some short stories I saw there:
I went once with a girl to western union to pick up money. The funny thing was, she was picking up money from 3 different man from all over the world. And it was a really nice amount, cus she was telling them, that her mother was really sick and she can not afford the medico. But I know, that her mother was killed in a shooting long time ago.
Another girl I had to help her to open a email account and translate a email for her so called novio, that her son was injured by a accident and she needs money for the hospital. Her son? I never know she had one, smile. Well at the end she said to me, for your work you did for me, lets have some fun together, I think you know what I mean.
When I was having a session with one girl, her phone was ringing and she said, ups her novio from Canada was calling. I said no problem. But she wasn't speaking English so I had to be the translator too. I had to tell him, that I'm running a bar and she was sitting there, smile.
Another girl was calling her man in Germany and told him, that the baby of them died. He was shocked, cus he didn't know they had a baby together. She said you didn't know I was pregnant from you and I just lost the baby now. He booked his next flight to meet her. She picked him up at the airport in a black dress. Went with him to see the grave and he spent a lot of money for her. When he went back, the party was starting.
I was once with a girl and she was playing to much with me, so I send her away. When I saw here again, she wanted to come back to me, but I said no. She was crying and ask again and again to come back. So I told her, you know you are such a good actress, why you didn't go to Hollywood to be a actress there. Then she was laughing and thinks are over.
And so many of the girls over there are good actress sometimes even better, then in a good movie so that many man gives hes money away really fast.
Well sorry about that long story but just so you know what can maybe happen. On my last trip in June I meet a nice girl there and we both like each other. I know she works as a puta and I didn't have any problem with that. But we spend some nice time and sometimes during daytime I was working a bit on computer I was send her to the beach or so. And told her, that I didn't have any problem if she is going with another man. So know we still in contact and I will meet her again in December. During the phone calls and emails we had since June she was never ever asking me for any money. But I have sent her 2 time some, once for her birthday and another time just cus I like.
So to come to end I will be in the dominican from the 17. December till the 10. Of January the first 3 days in Santo Domingo to extend my documents and then in Sosua.
Sorry about my bad English as German is my mother tongue.
Maybe see some of you in December or January in Sosua. My trip after will be in April.
Don Ben
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[QUOTE=GrouchoMarx]Having been to Sosua numerous times, and having met her/their family/ies more than once, the rule of Three F's (find 'them, fuck 'them, forget 'them) seems to be the best approach. As a rule $1000 short time and $2000 'toda la noche' is more than fair. Bartenders seem to fetch higher prices, and I don't normally go with them.
I bring gifts of girlie stuff (lipstick, hair ornaments), and 'regalo' them at irregular intervals. "Here is $1500 pesos for the 'salon' (hairdresser)".
Another day or 2 may pass before another gift is forthcoming (a cheap knock off watch from China). This seems to work best for me. The girls like me, and genuinely look out for me. The gifts are in addition to, not in lieu of money.
I have also given out some more valuable gifts when it seemed appropriate (English/Spanish talking electronic dictionary to a girl who was serious about learning English, real 'name brand' perfume to a chambermaid who requested it). There is one important bit of advice which I would like to offer. Never tell them when you are leaving town. When they ask you can either be evasive or if necessary lie and tell them that you are staying longer than you really are.[/QUOTE]
FD, best of luck buddy. The decision is yours and you will live or die by your call.
I forgot to point out that as above, I have also been taken to meet families before (3 separate chicas) and did the family dinner things, party and all that jazz. It is not that unusual, as long as you are not a complety asshole and are respectful and a bit funny/charming there is a good chance that will happen.
Other comments:
In my last trip I was dishing 500 for about 3hr, 1000 LT. I would always get up in the morning, do my am fuck, shower afterwards, get dressed to go out and I would tell them "sorry honey but I have to meet some friends/do some reading or work" so here is 1K "go buy yourself some clothes" If they reacted whiny or asked for more without tact than I know I would not see them again and I just give them a stare. If they tactfully ask for more and they were good than another couple of hundy or even a fiver was handed over.
As far as the gifting I do it in combination with the $: I always start with $ cuz that is what they need, if they become novia for a couple of days then I give a small gift here or there but by then there is no formal exchange of moneys for boning services as they are "novias"...it does become a lot less expensive when they are novias but...hey...you do lose the variety (and remember at that point you are paying for meals, getting drunk, maybe a short trip).
Oh well, everyone has a different style. Back in the DR and in Sosua next week...see you guys there!
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[QUOTE=Naked Gunz]Don't forget the non-pro you stumble upon just because you can talk to her.
I'm spending countless hours with the Spanish books and software for the sole purpose of accomplishing exactly what you did. I'm stuck with verb pronuciation.
Can someone reccomend software that has audio where I can HEAR all those verb tenses. If I hear it, I can be a parrot and say it. The key to the language seems to be mastering the verbs.[/QUOTE]
I highy recommend the set of CD's Learn in Your Car Spanish (Penton Overseas). About $30 for the whole set from Amazon. I got them a few years ago and have used nothing else and I am very good on verbs. The great thing about this course is exactly that you simply learn your way from zero to hero by parroting Spanish. That is all you have to do. Parrot and parrot and soon you will be dreaming in Spanish. You could use Windows Media player to translate to mp3 and put them on your mp3 player.
Regarding novias. In the four years I have been going to the DR I have always had a novia.
Yes, they do cost you money, but you learn a lot about the culture of the country, and the language by having a novia. With my first novia I traveled all over the DR with her as guide.
Whether the relationship works out over the long run or not depends on the individuals concerned. We can argue for ever about whether the girls you meet are lifelong putas or innocents. I think that most of them would prefer to have a real relationship to being a puta and having to make money by having sex with men they find unattractive, but that having good intentions is not enough, perhaps because they do not have the relationship skills or mental talents to make a living in some other way. Certainly it would be very unusual to find one, puta or non puta, who has any intellectual interests that go beyond telenovellas.
I once had a minirelationship after three years of courtship with a nonputa who was very religious minded. She kept her virginity until her wedding night, though a few months later she let me fuck her a few times in the hope that I would contribute a stove to the marital home. (She had to make do with a pair of sneakers.) In spite of her lack of experience she was better in the sack than most putas and I still have a soft spot for her (or hard spot).
One of the HUGE advantages of a novia is that it is relatively easy to negotiate sex without condoms. Of course you will need a mutual compact that you both only fuck bareback with each other and such contracts are not always iron clad. To me sex minus condom is about three times better than sex with condom and the difference becomes even greater in an ongoing relationship. I might fuck a girl once or twice with a condom, but if I want to have more sex with her, it will probably have to be without.
Right now, to be honest, I really can't be bothered with sex with girls other than my novia. It does not seem like a cost efficient procedure, and I have had sex with enough Dominicanas and Haitianas that there are few surprises in store for me.
However, having a novia also gives you leverage, because they become very dependent on you for what you provide, so you are in a powerful negotiating position when it comes to sex. Right now my novia is under notice that she is expected to give up her lesbian virginity under my supervision on my next trip. She is protesting, but she knows what she has to do to keep her novio happy, and she will do it.
So a man in his fifties gets to enjoy a lesbian orgy with two or three young twenties, along with bareback fucking one of the participants. How much exactly is that worth, and is there something better available where you live?
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Chica Bartender UNION?
Last month when I was there, I went to that bar with the pool table next to Lou's. Me and my boy start macking to two little cuties there and start with the hand-holding and little kisses and sweet nothings into our ears,, and all that b.s. so we make a date to meet at CLASSICO'S after they get out at 1am. There is no way im paying salida ANYWHERE. So me and my boy head over to classicos and bump into some previous chicas we had earlier in the day. A few hours later we get taps on our shoulder, Its the 2 girls from the bar, They start rubbing up on us, and get mad because we are dancing with other girls, almost like a "hey why didnt you wait till we got here" yeah right,lol. Anyway we get down to business right away because I dont wanna waste anytime and I ask her how much for TLN.. from that point on.. She tells me 3000.. Even tough she is pretty cute, I will NEVER pay 3000 in the DR, NEVER! So I put on this look of shock and surprise and tell her "im sure your kidding" you must have me confused with a uninformed newbie.. I look over to my boy and tell him that "Hey this chick just asked me for 3000. He looks at me "YEA me too" After some protest and sarcastic laughs, The chicks didnt even wait for us to counter offer, we look over our shoulder and they were out the door. Later we see them over at the casino ALONE and trying to molest some Canadians. Me and my boy? settled for some regular 1500 TLN's. It seems to me that they had this pre-meditated assumption that we are going to start to ask for 3000k and we are taking no less.. Casino closes, I hop on my scooter and go home with my regular and see the 2 girls hop on a motoconch alone..
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Miami...just curious:
Do you think that being a little more patient or less blunt on bring up the $$ may have resulted on a lower quote?
Or maybe they had done the math incorporating the salida that yes...one should never pay.
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[QUOTE=Concarne]Miami...just curious:
Do you think that being a little more patient or less blunt on bring up the $$ may have resulted on a lower quote?
Or maybe they had done the math incorporating the salida that yes...one should never pay.[/QUOTE]
No because we were already at Classicos, so that WASNT including salida.I definately dont think it was rushed because we already spent like 2 hrs prior talking b.s. and drinking beers and Mama Juana shots at the bar.. I just think they talked prior and said "we are asking and getting NO LESS than 3000" period. They wanted to start a revolution. But my other friend there said that the girls are starting to get bolder and ask for 3000 and up AND PEOPLE ARE PAYING IT.. I had one cutie I met on the beach who says an Italian pays her 4000 for 2hrs.. I told her good for her and payed her 1500 for 2 hrs, but she was really cute and fresh so I made the exception.
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[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver]No because we were already at Classicos, so that WASNT including salida.I definately dont think it was rushed because we already spent like 2 hrs prior talking b.s. and drinking beers and Mama Juana shots at the bar.. I just think they talked prior and said "we are asking and getting NO LESS than 3000" period. They wanted to start a revolution. But my other friend there said that the girls are starting to get bolder and ask for 3000 and up AND PEOPLE ARE PAYING IT.. I had one cutie I met on the beach who says an Italian pays her 4000 for 2hrs.. I told her good for her and payed her 1500 for 2 hrs, but she was really cute and fresh so I made the exception.[/QUOTE]
The cost of living in the DR is going up all the time. The value of the dollar relative to the euro is falling all the time.
There are probably some very cute girls who really clean up and make a lot of money, but for most girls, especially in the lower seasons of the year, clients are few and far between so they will want to cash in if they can.
Right now is high season in the DR and the more attractive girls may feel that by application of game theory they can get more money for less work by being selective and holding out for higher prices.
Speaking Spanish and being nice to the girls may get you added value both in terms of lower prices and enhanced performance. By being nice to the girls, I mean just recognizing who they are and taking the trouble to find out what is important in to them in their lives.
In the end the market is a market and supply and demand will meet somewhere in the middle.
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Soon it will be what is the point of going to the DR anyways?
Might as well go to the Phils, Colombia or other areas for varying reasons.
Truth be told I was not going to return to the DR but since I do not have much time and it was a free tix then I went for it.
I will make it a mission to not go over 1500, will test Adam Smith's theories in high season and report back. And just in case I will bring some sports mags to read.....
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I hear you fellow mongers. Been going down every month for the past 2 years or so. Started in SD. Found a great novia. I would pay for restaurants and stuff and the rest was free. Had like a 6 month relationship then it got too much for me. At her age (30 or so) she was emotionally insecure, I couldn't bear it anymore, especially when I wasn't giving her any reasons to be gealous. So thanks to you guys, I decided to check up Sosua. BEST THING ever happened to me. So I've been there over 15 times. And the first 10 times I was just living la vida loca. Every day 2 diffferent chickas (always treat 'them with respect) yet never more than 1500 for TLD. I made friends, got to some local parties in the barrios. Got some amazing gems. I had a policy. Never the same chica twice. Got to a point when every 30 min I would know one that was walking by and she always stopped to say Hello, even if she was with a gringo. I only once paid 3000. Got to met her by chance, ended up with her TLN. She was INCREDIBLE. Never ever ever experienced anything like it. In the morning she asked me for 3000, I immediately said YES. I know that I will remember when I'll be 70 (if).
Now I have my novia (I know what you're thinking) yet she is the one. She lives in Sosua but because of her circumstances and I was the one who brought her for her first ever in Classicos.
Peace!
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[QUOTE=Naked Gunz]Don't forget the non-pro you stumble upon just because you can talk to her.
I'm spending countless hours with the Spanish books and software for the sole purpose of accomplishing exactly what you did. I'm stuck with verb pronuciation.
Can someone reccomend software that has audio where I can HEAR all those verb tenses. If I hear it, I can be a parrot and say it. The key to the language seems to be mastering the verbs.[/QUOTE]Try Rosetta Stone. It's been the only tool I used to refresh my spanish lessons from years ago in high school.
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[QUOTE=Brovo35]I am not the politically correct type usually; however, Haitians are Haitian and not African. They are of African descent as are the Many of the Dominicans that you refer to as Latins. Skin color alone does not indicate race, ethnicity or Nationality.[/QUOTE]
You know whats funny Bravo35 his favorite kind of ass is Haitian ass...lol
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[QUOTE=Naked Gunz]Don't forget the non-pro you stumble upon just because you can talk to her.
I'm spending countless hours with the Spanish books and software for the sole purpose of accomplishing exactly what you did. I'm stuck with verb pronuciation.
Can someone reccomend software that has audio where I can HEAR all those verb tenses. If I hear it, I can be a parrot and say it. The key to the language seems to be mastering the verbs.[/QUOTE]Also another good tip is to focus only on present, preterite, future, conditional and progressive tenses. Virtually all chicas will not speak in the perfect, imperfect and subjunctive tenses. Also the vosotros form is rarely spoken among the common people of Latin America.