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[QUOTE=MrHo;2015374]If german economy collapses, whole EU collapses, then FKK will be filled with not just German girls, but all the European girls, no rooms for Romanians LOL.[/QUOTE]LOL the German economy would be one of the last countries on this planet to fail. If it does fail, then we are probably in the middle of WW3 or the Russians took over the whole EU already.
Sadly this also means Germans are a slave to the EU. Free German handouts for everyone! I just wish the handouts were German girls instead of money LOL!
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[QUOTE=MrManGuy;2015387]An economic crash would be an added bonus. The status quo is fine.[/QUOTE]Well, according to the moron in the White House the Germans keep the exchange rate artificially low. According to Trump's logic the Germans could, and should, make it much harder for Americans to visit.
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I don't buy the view that 50 euros is insufficient. An average girl will easily make in a month between double to four times the average German wage, and many many times the Romanian wage. One girl just told me how she was ecstatic when she got her first 50, but then just got used to spending more and wanting more, and to be able to buy things to display her success to her friends.
As FreeDude says thete is no correlation between price and service.
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[QUOTE=Optimist;2015557]I don't buy the view that 50 euros is insufficient. [/QUOTE]+1.
If the girls think they are too good for 50 for 30 rate, then they should go to Globe, private escort, RLD, or another country. But many of the girls that leave for greener pastures, find themselves right back at the FKK fuck factory.
That suggests to me they earn more money as German FKK girls. Or the work as a German FKK girl is less stressful and more stable. Maybe both.
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[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;2015464]LOL the German economy would be one of the last countries on this planet to fail. If it does fail, then we are probably in the middle of WW3 or the Russians took over the whole EU already.
Sadly this also means Germans are a slave to the EU. Free German handouts for everyone! I just wish the handouts were German girls instead of money LOL![/QUOTE]True. I like German pornos. They always go up the bum. Not sure why it usually ends in so much pissing. Much better psychologically at an FKK with a German girl too. You know you're probably fucking a princess from a decent German family (based on the assumption poor people are usually ugly). Maybe there are some decent brothels in Germany with German girls?
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;2015585]If the girls think they are too good for 50 for 30 rate, then they should go to Globe, private escort, RLD, or another country. But many of the girls that leave for greener pastures, find themselves right back at the FKK fuck factory.
That suggests to me they earn more money as German FKK girls. Or the work as a German FKK girl is less stressful and more stable. Maybe both.[/QUOTE]Just my assumptions.
Austrian or Swiss clubs: too many stunning competitors to disperse the income from the clients.
Private escort or RLD: not as safe as in a club; no food, drink, facilities, or interaction with other co-workers; lacking opportunities to approach clients physically.
All in all, German Sauna clubs turns out to be the balance point of the supply and demand curve, which means the clients get the most value of their money out of entry and sessions fee, and the working women get the most profits at the same time.
(Jesus, are we in an economics class now? Sometimes, this forum turns out to be a sociology or law class, too. LOL.).
What bothers me most now, is the question of where are all those Russians and Ukrainians now?
It's so difficult to find a Russian or Ukrainian outside of their land nowadays.
They used to be the synonym of Western babies or blonde angels whom Asian men crave. Similar to the tanned Asian women whom some Caucasian folks crave.
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Increasing the pay to 60 for 30 min is a suggestion, with the proviso that a more strict time control mechanism be installed. Not that what I suggest here gets picked up by the clubs, but just an idea to toss around. Anyway, club managements have no incentive to install such timers in rooms now, and if they did, these girls might be up in arms. Increasing the fee to 60 might soften the blow a bit. What I do know is, with any new girl and non regular, 30 min is rarely 30 min in Sharks and Oase and perhaps other Frk clubs. If I pay 50 for a 20 min session, I am effectively paying much more than 60, not to mention the gnawing stress from the 10th min onwards that the girl will start scamming any minute. Makes the session much less enjoyable from the start. And, we can say "Nyet to the fee increase" firmly, but that is not solving the problem of lousy service and time scamming that clearly exists right now. How long can we take sessions only with girls already known and are regular to us?
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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2015620]Increasing the pay to 60 for 30 min is a suggestion, with the proviso that a more strict time control mechanism be installed. Not that what I suggest here gets picked up by the clubs, but just an idea to toss around. Anyway, club managements have no incentive to install such timers in rooms now, and if they did, these girls might be up in arms. Increasing the fee to 60 might soften the blow a bit. What I do know is, with any new girl and non regular, 30 min is rarely 30 min in Sharks and Oase and perhaps other Frk clubs. If I pay 50 for a 20 min session, I am effectively paying much more than 60, not to mention the gnawing stress from the 10th min onwards that the girl will start scamming any minute. Makes the session much less enjoyable from the start. And, we can say "Nyet to the fee increase" firmly, but that is not solving the problem of lousy service and time scamming that clearly exists right now. How long can we take sessions only with girls already known and are regular to us?[/QUOTE]Maybe wear a watch. ? Or is that against club rules?? What you do when girl ask why you have not cum yet? I have never had that happen to me in FKK. Asian girls, they do that. I usually say firmly "when I am ready".
FKK clubs can be intimidating, there are always lots of big people. I would be too scared to be firm with a girl in FKK. The most I have said is very calmly "I have been to a lot of clubs and I know how it works" <-- after a girl refused to give more BJ after about 3 minutes. I hate it. It makes stress for a happy holiday.
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Yes thanks. Yeah, I have a watch, always wear it, and even make sure to take a very obvious look at it when I know the girl is watching me as we enter the room. That is not stopping the girls from scamming. One girl last week tried to pull this on me, after I actually showed her the watch at the beginning and said "look, it is 11 PM now". She said, yeah I know the time, rather annoyed. Then, She still tried "ten more min" at 11:10 Pm.
It is not that these are scary places or I am mortally afraid. This is supposed to be a fun, sex session. I see a cute girl, I want to beckon her over, try for half hour, ask her to suck or cuddle or fuck or whatever, and if I like it, extend more. At my pace, under my control, and not constantly stressed the girl will shortchange on time. I don't want to enter the room as if I am negotiating the nuclear treaty with the North Korean dictator. I can hold out, take to reception, and teach a lesson; but if that becomes the norm in every session, what's the point of flying 5,000 miles just for FKK?
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[QUOTE=MrManGuy;2015612]True. I like German pornos. They always go up the bum. Not sure why it usually ends in so much pissing. Much better psychologically at an FKK with a German girl too. You know you're probably fucking a princess from a decent German family (based on the assumption poor people are usually ugly). Maybe there are some decent brothels in Germany with German girls?[/QUOTE]Fucking German girls feels the best. I'll pick Hungarians to be second and Romanians third. My best experiences has been with German girls. They are really fun to fuck PSE style.
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[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;2015648]Fucking German girls feels the best. I'll pick Hungarians to be second and Romanians third. My best experiences has been with German girls. They are really fun to fuck PSE style.[/QUOTE]Yes, German is very good for PSE. I also like Poles and Czechs very much. Ruskies are damn good for anal! Also had some really good Hungarian last trip. Then of course, your versatile Romanians! I make sure to use my super thin Sagamis with the German girls LOL!
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;2015585]+1.
If the girls think they are too good for 50 for 30 rate, then they should go to Globe, private escort, RLD, or another country. But many of the girls that leave for greener pastures, find themselves right back at the FKK fuck factory.
That suggests to me they earn more money as German FKK girls. Or the work as a German FKK girl is less stressful and more stable. Maybe both.[/QUOTE]The cost of living factors in, and the threshold of session pricing to draw in the number. Lower rate will draw more punters (why is Germany popular? And probably stability from this.
Less work for more money is easier, but the stress come from instability and in particular, the rules imposed on the girls at at the club (globe).
Even some girls that work in clubs vs escorts to be able to walk into a club full of potential clients to make a quota, than some random occurrences of escort calls.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2015721]Yes, German is very good for PSE. I also like Poles and Czechs very much. Ruskies are damn good for anal! Also had some really good Hungarian last trip. Then of course, your versatile Romanians! I make sure to use my super thin Sagamis with the German girls LOL![/QUOTE]Same opinion on nationalities tendency at FKK LOL.
Ro are not good, but in NRW, Ro really was different as people said in forum. Ro in Nrw FKK are different bleed, they suck for long minutes that my dick was cut after few days LOL.
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[QUOTE=SoloTraveler;2015613]Just
What bothers me most now, is the question of where are all those Russians and Ukrainians now?
[/QUOTE]Not a member of the EU so it's difficult to work in Germany. Poland, Czech and Hungary seem to have too high standards of living, not that many girls from those countries around anymore since Romania (and Bulgaria) flooded the market.
HB.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;2015944]Not a member of the EU so it's difficult to work in Germany. Poland, Czech and Hungary seem to have too high standards of living, not that many girls from those countries around anymore since Romania (and Bulgaria) flooded the market.
HB.[/QUOTE]Interestingly I've seen a lot of Russian girls advertised on the London escort sites, it looks as if their numbers have been growing in the past year but still nowhere near the amount of Romanians.