-
[QUOTE=Pistons;2165221] But she gets it more nowadays that she is not my type. But she is still shittalking me to her friends behind my back. I don't know what she says, but her friends don't go with me. Too bad for them I guess. The Angelina influence won't make them much money if that's their tactics to trust in her.[/QUOTE]Harassment pure and simple. And who is funding this behavior? We are!
We are like the rich husband whose wife lives a lavish lifestyle supported by him, and disdains him behind his back, and bit by bit in public too. All the time she pushes the boundaries, seeing what she can get away with, while he puts on a brave face.
If management won't listen to you at an FKK, go to another place. Easier said than done I know, but we have to stop funding the MMFKKs! Money talks and right now what we are saying is, "This behavior is normal and acceptable. This is how we value ourselves. ".
"Any wine will get you high.
Judge like a king, and choose the purest".
Mathnawi IV, 2683-96, Rumi.
-
Condom use absolutely decreases the risk of both of those. While Herpes can be transmitted through skin-skin contact, it still prevents spread from bodily fluids and sores located on the penis. Condoms are highly effective at preventing Gonorrhoea transmission.
-
Indeed Polyamorist. Thankfully there is only one Angelina though. But she is from the underworld. I once had a dream. She was in it, but she had horns on her head. Quite freak dream. LOL!
-
[QUOTE=Polyamorist;2165572]Harassment pure and simple. And who is funding this behavior? We are!
We are like the rich husband whose wife lives a lavish lifestyle supported by him, and disdains him behind his back, and bit by bit in public too. All the time she pushes the boundaries, seeing what she can get away with, while he puts on a brave face.
If management won't listen to you at an FKK, go to another place. Easier said than done I know, but we have to stop funding the MMFKKs! Money talks and right now what we are saying is, "This behavior is normal and acceptable. This is how we value ourselves. ".
"Any wine will get you high.
Judge like a king, and choose the purest".
Mathnawi IV, 2683-96, Rumi.[/QUOTE]You sure know your Sufism.
-
[QUOTE=MrHo;2165458]Marketa was saving to do her business in Prague, so she must be somewhere in that beautiful city, she was great and all natural and no tattoo. Golden era of Artemis. Another one I miss is Geraldine Hungarian, Coco Greek albanian, Joy German also know as July in Palace, Kimmi blonde German from Berlin also worked in Palace, Ivy German girl from Hamburg, and list continue. FKK Artemis had real gold era from 2009 till 2015. It was very good 6 years.
Well now we are not doing too bad at all, so let us crave for the best stunners we can find here and there in various FKK.[/QUOTE]Yes, many top girls leave. Thankfully some top girls also return, and new ones join the ranks too. Or if you are lucky, you may stumble upon a girl you thought had left long ago, like I did at Wellcum last summer with Natali from Oase. Then there are girls who tell everyone including their friends that they are leaving the business only to leave the club, then I bump into them at a different club like I did with a girl at Oceans who had told all her Wellcum friends that she was quitting for good.
Too bad with Artemis's demise. It could be a generational thing and the club can always make a comeback like other clubs have done elsewhere such as Oase and Palace. But maybe the management was played out after that raid 2 years ago. There are still a few good girls at Artemis, but it is less of a destination worth several days in a row like it used to be. Nowadays Wellcum has taken over that role for me as a solo club with solid lineup. While the Hessen and NRW clubs more help each other.
-
[QUOTE=Bitumen;2165584]You sure know your Sufism.[/QUOTE]Jazakallah Bitumen, if you're into it there's a great parable by the same poet on the dangers of the animal-soul:
[URL]http://www.naseeb.com/journals/very-interesting-rumi-poem-x-rated-7756[/URL]
-
[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2165306]...
Also given intercourse with a man who *IS HIV infected*, the transmission rate to women is 0.08% for vaginal intercourse, and 1.38% for anal.
[URL]https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/risk/estimates/riskbehaviors.html[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=UncleOx;2165332]I have read several articles related to those observational studies. Actually, the risk of acquiring HIV is about "per coital act" instead of "per sexual intercourse". So I believe the actual risk should be about 4%-8% per penile-vaginal intercourse if exposures to an infected source.[/QUOTE]Yes, per act, that's what I've been saying. But your notion that the risk is 4%-8% is incorrect. See the linked CDC statistics above. Given an infected partner, 8 in 10,000 vaginal male to female events will result in infection, and 4 in 10,000 for female to male.
8/10,000 = 0. 0008 = 0. 08% infected male to female transmission rate.
4/10,000 = 0. 0004 = 0. 04% infected female to male transmission rate.
And that's when the first partner is 100% surely infected. When talking about random encounters you have to multiply the possibility of encountering someone who is HIV infected by the possibility of transmission.
I also provided a reference that puts the probability of encountering HIV in a random sex worker in Germany at 0. 2%.
See page 14. [URL]https://ecdc.europa.eu/sites/portal/files/media/en/publications/Publications/dublin-declaration-sex-workers.pdf[/URL].
So the probability of a man getting HIV from a single random encounter with a female German sex worker is:
0. 002 * 0. 0004 = 0. 0000008 = 0. 00008%.
-
[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2165209]Good point. Thank you for injecting the voice of reason into this so-called "discussion. " There is no need to glorify activities which expose our working girls to unnecessary risks or which force our working girls to have to take "breaks" during certain treatments, thereby depriving everyone else from enjoying their company for certain periods of time.
So, thank you BigBuddy69.[/QUOTE]Come on, that's an arbitrary line for unnecessary risk.
BBBJ is an unnecessary risk but it feels way better than CBJ. Married men fucking prostitutes is an unnecessary risk, but it feels better than fucking the same middle or old age, monotonous vagina. Arbitrary.
TD.
-
[QUOTE=Bfsie;2165564]I don't want admin to label me as a argumentative member and delay my post in the future, so this is my last post on this topic. I do have the sources telling me about this. Let's leave this like that.[/QUOTE]Ok. I accept you have some information of some kind different to my experience/information. I am interested to hear that you have these sources.
No way can you be labelled argumentative. You have replied with good grace
Cheers.
-
[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2165591]4/10,000 = 0. 0004 = 0. 04% infected female to male transmission rate.
And that's when the first partner is 100% surely infected. When talking about random encounters you have to multiply the possibility of encountering someone who is HIV infected by the possibility of transmission.
I also provided a reference that puts the probability of encountering HIV in a random sex worker in Germany at 0. 2%.
See page 14. [URL]https://ecdc.europa.eu/sites/portal/files/media/en/publications/Publications/dublin-declaration-sex-workers.pdf[/URL].
So the probability of a man getting HIV from a single random encounter with a female German sex worker is:
0. 002 * 0. 0004 = 0. 0000008 = 0. 00008%.[/QUOTE]Don't forget that your 0.04 % was calculated on a sample of women who were diagnosed with HIV and taking care of their health. If you have sex with a woman in the first stage of infection and with some others frequent STD like gonorrhoea and chlamydia because she's fucking 10 different guys BB per day, the risks are probably much higher.
-
Lucky BBFS guys.
[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2165591]8/10,000 = 0. 0008 = 0. 08% infected male to female transmission rate.
4/10,000 = 0. 0004 = 0. 04% infected female to male transmission rate.
......
So the probability of a man getting HIV from a single random encounter with a female German sex worker is:
0. 002 * 0. 0004 = 0. 0000008 = 0. 00008%.[/QUOTE]Congratulation, you believe these numbers, and conclude that BBFS in FKK clubs is extremely safe.
The 0.04% infected female to male transmission rate, means, (Assume a WG works 250 days / year), a lucky BBFS guy keeps [B]fucking a HIV infected WG daily for about 10 years[/B], he would have only one single chance to get HIV infection.
I don't believe this BS numbers.
On the other hand, HIV Prevalence among female sex workers in Germany is much higher than 0. 2%.
I once saw a report that HIV Prevalence among male and female sex workers is very close. If HIV Prevalence for male providers is 20%, then it would never be so low for female providers.
Anyway, enjoy your BBFS, good luck.
-
[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2165519]Avoid the known BB girls at mainstream clubs, probably a wise idea and I agree if one is worried about an STD to do such, to each their own. Now I ask how do you know the ' non well known' BB WG do not really bareback. (They do, all do some it is just more obvious and known) How do you know if a guy just left some random AO Day Care Center with an STD and will do as you say see a lower volume Shark (not picking on Sharks, Sharks being used generically for mainstream clubs) and infect her right before you see her and pick up a present from the Day Care Center delivered to Darmstadt unknowingly? [/QUOTE]When Bfsie writes that he selectively chooses his BBFS targets based on intuition, I think he means this: he picks only from the pool of WGs that he believes to be strictly "condom only". Then he uses his looks, charm, and experience to seduce his inexperienced target, so that he becomes her first AO experience with a customer.
-
[QUOTE=McAdonis;2165663]When Bfsie writes that he selectively chooses his BBFS targets based on intuition, I think he means this: he picks only from the pool of WGs that he believes to be strictly "condom only". Then he uses his looks, charm, and experience to seduce his inexperienced target, so that he becomes her first AO experience with a customer.[/QUOTE]If that system works all the power to him or anyone else who uses that system. All systems are fine if they work except for one; that being the guys who switch positions and rip the condom off in between swapping positions and shove it in. Happens here unfortunately. One of my CFS regs had it happen the other night the guy ended up on the DNS list that gets circulated. Sadly, we have dirtballs among us and I am sure some clown has done that to a WG in an FKK. Other than that I am a fan of whatever works. To each his own. I would however like to borrow some looks and charms though to help my cause. The journey to AO Land has many avenues and paths to arrive at destination, for those that enjoy this activity one must find their groove and what works for them. As to being the first AO experience with a client ever or for that day my thought is ' you are never first and you are never last'.
I always assume they were previously ' vashed'.
-
[QUOTE=McAdonis;2165663]When Bfsie writes that he selectively chooses his BBFS targets based on intuition, I think he means this: he picks only from the pool of WGs that he believes to be strictly "condom only". Then he uses his looks, charm, and experience to seduce his inexperienced target, so that he becomes her first AO experience with a customer.[/QUOTE]Also known as the Russian tactic?
In mother Russia you don't play the game, the game plays you.
As seen from the girls perspective of course.
-
Taking advantage?
[QUOTE=McAdonis;2165663]When Bfsie writes that he selectively chooses his BBFS targets based on intuition, I think he means this: he picks only from the pool of WGs that he believes to be strictly "condom only". Then he uses his looks, charm, and experience to seduce his inexperienced target, so that he becomes her first AO experience with a customer.[/QUOTE]Hi McAdonis,
If I may take the liberty to suggest, how you have interpreted Bfsie's intuition sounds a tad negative hinting at an older more experienced man (with power) derived from the attributes you have listed has taken advantage of as you say an inexperienced "target" which is a much younger girl as Bfsie has explained. I am quite sure you are not seriously suggesting that here but wish you will confirm that this is the case to alleviate some fears. Thank you.