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[QUOTE=Amigomio]Sean, you really need to become a full member.
We must get together and talk.
I think you are like my good friend USB: a magnet for divas. Good girls that are good acts, but bad acts when horizontal.
Sometimes Sean you have to be HARD on the girls.
Like telling them "you better be good... you better deliver", like make them know, you know.
That you are not the newbie tourist around Monterrey.
That you have other options if you dislike the girl, that you can find better if she is not even better.
And so on....
We need to talk.[/QUOTE]
Most of these girls could give a rat's a_s about Sean Juan or any other American monger visiting Monterrey.
He will never become a WEEKLY client who can help pay her WEEKLY expenses. There is no chance of him becoming a client which is what all these girls are looking for.
Weekly clients.
It takes a lot for a girl to give GFE(permitting themselves to orgasm while you are inside of them). Most girls(especially the younger ones) will not allow themselves to offer this to one-time customers. I have had to session with girls two or three times before they allow themselves to GFE with me and that is even with them knowing that I live here and have the potential of becoming a weekly client. Also, if the girl does not want to deliver(GFE) she's not going to.
As for being a magnet for divas, all you need is a money clip and a good dose of gullibility.
Are you at liberty to publically elaborate on the Givenchy incident? If not, can you PM me with the details? Something of this nature is probably very infomative to mongers both here in Monterey and elsewhere.
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Your apreciation of the girl/club routine is wrong Precocious.
It depends on the individual, the girl, the club, the time of day... etc.
I have seen girls go for free with many, not only Mexicans, but Americans too.
And Sean is a regular visitor to Monterrey.
He knows his way around without anyones help. He just needs to fine tune his way around.
And Givenchy: On Tuesday last, before midnight, a battle royal erupted within the premises, leaving 3 people dead.
Seems some drunks got in a fight with several others at another bar and all parties involved bumped into each other at Givenchy.
And that's where it ended in tragedy.
Givenchy is closed right now.
Dunno when it will open.
[QUOTE=Precocious One]Most of these girls could give a rat's a_s about Sean Juan or any other American monger visiting Monterrey.
He will never become a WEEKLY client who can help pay her WEEKLY expenses. There is no chance of him becoming a client which is what all these girls are looking for.
Weekly clients.
It takes a lot for a girl to give GFE(permitting themselves to orgasm while you are inside of them). Most girls(especially the younger ones) will not allow themselves to offer this to one-time customers. I have had to session with girls two or three times before they allow themselves to GFE with me and that is even with them knowing that I live here and have the potential of becoming a weekly client. Also, if the girl does not want to deliver(GFE) she's not going to.
As for being a magnet for divas, all you need is a money clip and a good dose of gullibility.
Are you at liberty to publically elaborate on the Givenchy incident? If not, can you PM me with the details? Something of this nature is probably very infomative to mongers both here in Monterey and elsewhere.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Amigomio]Your apreciation of the girl/club routine is wrong Precocious.
It depends on the individual, the girl, the club, the time of day... etc.
I have seen girls go for free with many, not only Mexicans, but Americans too.
And Sean is a regular visitor to Monterrey.
He knows his way around without anyones help. He just needs to fine tune his way around.
And Givenchy: On Tuesday last, before midnight, a battle royal erupted within the premises, leaving 3 people dead.
Seems some drunks got in a fight with several others at another bar and all parties involved bumped into each other at Givenchy.
And that's where it ended in tragedy.
Givenchy is closed right now.
Dunno when it will open.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the update on Givenchy. I would venture to say that in all your years here in Monterrey, that is the first time something of this magnitude(multiple homicides) has happened in one of the S/C's.
Maybe I am being presumptuous, but it is possible that one can expect an increase in this type behaviour in the very near future both in MX and the U.S.
I don't have the link, but it has been empirically proven that for every one percent increase in the foreclosure rate there is a two percent increase in the crime rate.
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Givenchy
Was the violence at Givenchy with knives or guns? Were there bystanders killed or was it the offending parties killing each other?
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Bystanders were not killed.
They were army men on R&R.
Generaly they are unwanted on bars, precisely cause they are always game for fights.
This time they found people that were not afraid to fight back.
[QUOTE=Doubt98]Was the violence at Givenchy with knives or guns? Were there bystanders killed or was it the offending parties killing each other?[/QUOTE]
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Need some help
Guys,
I'm heading to Monterreyfor a week before a week in Guad. Can someone give me some direction on the scene there for a guy who speaks no spanish at all. Is there some place to go to get some good spanish pussy without speaking spanish and staying safe? What about the street walker scene? I'll be staying at the Crown Plaza and was wondering if there were girls to be had within walking distance to the hotel?
Help me out guys.
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Hello Bust
Crowne Plaza area is 10 minutes away from the mayority of the club scene.
Around your hotel you have a couple of expensive clubs like Spugna and Reno, but boasting 5 star quality, but at the same time expensive and not worth it.
Streetwalker scene.
Not recomended, not close to the hotel. They are totally displaced by what you can find at MPs and SCs.
Besides, the Crowne Plaza does not allow female visitors to the rooms.
(Club girls, hookers, SWs and be spot a mile away by security personel).
And about being safe in Monterrey.
If you read the posts in this thread, you'll notice we will get into a lot of subjects, but no one has ever mentioned getting into trouble while staying here and visiting the clubs.
At the most, the old switching the bill around is the most you have to worry about.
Check my SupeGoogle Monterrey Map, cause I think you have no idea of the size of Monterrey.
[url]http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=708045[/url]
It includes hotels, shopping malls, movie plexes, and of course, MPs, SCs...
Check it out and ask your questions.
[QUOTE=Bustaload]Guys,
I'm heading to Monterreyfor a week before a week in Guad. Can someone give me some direction on the scene there for a guy who speaks no spanish at all. Is there some place to go to get some good spanish pussy without speaking spanish and staying safe? What about the street walker scene? I'll be staying at the Crown Plaza and was wondering if there were girls to be had within walking distance to the hotel?
Help me out guys.[/QUOTE]
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The streetwalker scene is the least safe...And, you have about a 50% chance of hooking up with a "lady-boy," as they call them in Asia. In Asia, the lady-boys can at least pass for women, sometimes better looking at first glance than the actual women. But, in Monterrey, their "true" gender becomes obvious pretty quickly. But, why waste your time on the streets dealing with all that nonsense?
Uhmmm, speak no Spanish? Well, that does complicate matters a little. Plan everything out in advance, stick to the medium level bars recommended by Amigomio, and take his map with you wherever you go. Remember to take your hotel information with you so you can make it back without too much confusion with the taxi drivers. DO NOT let the taxi drivers take you somewhere you do not tell them to go, such as the high end, commission paying, bars. They will sometimes tell you they're taking you one place, and drop you off somewhere else where they earn commissions by bringing you there.
I would probably suggest Casino, Pasarelas, and Harem, in that order. They are all along Madero Avenue and all within five to ten miles of each other. You can partake in the full range of services on site, and in a more comfortable, all be it slightly more expensive setting, maybe only 20-30% more cost in the long run compared to the lower end bars.
Be prepared to spend a little on drinks, maybe 2, 3, 4, 5 drinks at most, $12 a drink, then maybe enjoy some private time in the privados for about $10 for a private dance, or you can even go upstairs for about $85-$110 for forty five minutes to an hour of full service action.
The lower end bars do not typically have girls that speak English, and it's a little more difficult to pick up on the routine than to relax in a medium level bar, where you are more likely to have some English speaking waiters, and maybe one or two English Speaking Girls to translate, to explain the options. Plus the clients in the medium level bars are a notch up from the lower end bars, less rowdy, maybe a little safer.
Of course, you must always watch out for the larceny perpetrated by the waiters, just annoying things, bill switches, wrong change, etc...The medium level bars are notorious for that, and they are even worse than the lower end bars for that sort of thing...
[QUOTE=Bustaload]Guys,
I'm heading to Monterreyfor a week before a week in Guad. Can someone give me some direction on the scene there for a guy who speaks no spanish at all. Is there some place to go to get some good spanish pussy without speaking spanish and staying safe? What about the street walker scene? I'll be staying at the Crown Plaza and was wondering if there were girls to be had within walking distance to the hotel?
Help me out guys.[/QUOTE]
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Let me do some price corection on USB's privado quotes:
Plain dances in a private booth go for: one for 50 pesos, or they make you take 2 for 100 pesos, depending on the club (our volatile exchange rate or recent days makes me post the price in pesos).
Private semi-rooms go for 550-600 pesos for 15 minutes and 1200 pesos for 30 minutes.
Bust: I will clarify on the SW scene, that you will find none around the hotel district where you will stay. The female SWs are around Reforma St and Colon St and work on broad daylight and pack up and go home at night.
[QUOTE=UnospongeBob]The streetwalker scene is the least safe...And, you have about a 50% chance of hooking up with a "lady-boy," as they call them in Asia. In Asia, the lady-boys can at least pass for women, sometimes better looking at first glance than the actual women. But, in Monterrey, their "true" gender becomes obvious pretty quickly. But, why waste your time on the streets dealing with all that nonsense?
Uhmmm, speak no Spanish? Well, that does complicate matters a little. Plan everything out in advance, stick to the medium level bars recommended by Amigomio, and take his map with you wherever you go. Remember to take your hotel information with you so you can make it back without too much confusion with the taxi drivers. DO NOT let the taxi drivers take you somewhere you do not tell them to go, such as the high end, commission paying, bars. They will sometimes tell you they're taking you one place, and drop you off somewhere else where they earn commissions by bringing you there.
I would probably suggest Casino, Pasarelas, and Harem, in that order. They are all along Madero Avenue and all within five to ten miles of each other. You can partake in the full range of services on site, and in a more comfortable, all be it slightly more expensive setting, maybe only 20-30% more cost in the long run compared to the lower end bars.
Be prepared to spend a little on drinks, maybe 2, 3, 4, 5 drinks at most, $12 a drink, then maybe enjoy some private time in the privados for about $10 for a private dance, or you can even go upstairs for about $85-$110 for forty five minutes to an hour of full service action.
The lower end bars do not typically have girls that speak English, and it's a little more difficult to pick up on the routine than to relax in a medium level bar, where you are more likely to have some English speaking waiters, and maybe one or two English Speaking Girls to translate, to explain the options. Plus the clients in the medium level bars are a notch up from the lower end bars, less rowdy, maybe a little safer.
Of course, you must always watch out for the larceny perpetrated by the waiters, just annoying things, bill switches, wrong change, etc...The medium level bars are notorious for that, and they are even worse than the lower end bars for that sort of thing...[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Amigomio]Let me do some price corection on USB's privado quotes:
Plain dances in a private booth go for: one for 50 pesos, or they make you take 2 for 100 pesos, depending on the club (our volatile exchange rate or recent days makes me post the price in pesos).
Private semi-rooms go for 550-600 pesos for 15 minutes and 1200 pesos for 30 minutes.
Bust: I will clarify on the SW scene, that you will find none around the hotel district where you will stay. The female SWs are around Reforma St and Colon St and work on broad daylight and pack up and go home at night.[/QUOTE]
There is a dance club on the other side of Reforma(North) very close to Villagran next to two hotels. Sometimes, girls will stand outside of the hotel and offer themselves for $25-40 on Friday and Saturday nights. There are 5's and 7's and most under 25 years old.
I do not believe that these girls have health cards. They appear to be opportunistic when in need of money.
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[QUOTE=Amigomio]Bust: I will clarify on the SW scene, that you will find none around the hotel district where you will stay. The female SWs are around Reforma St and Colon St and work on broad daylight and pack up and go home at night.[/QUOTE]Well, I wouldn't quite say none. Two nights ago I was propositioned by a young lady right outside the Sheraton Ambassador on Hidalgo. They may not be swarming the area, but there are at least a few around, it seems.
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Actually, I was propositioned by one here in Monterrey myself, right here immediately outside the lobby of the Sheraton Ambassador only a couple of months ago. I would not really call her a street walker.
She was not soliciting vehicles like you find in the US, but working the guys standing around as she walked from hotel to hotel. She approached me right where the cars pull into the carport area at the Sheraton, struck up a conversation, and asked if I was looking for some company, etc...
I told her that I was busy, that I was familiar with Monterrey, and that I know quite a few girls already. She was a MILF type, much more seasoned than the 18 year old girls I am used to. Fact is, compared to most of the girls I see, she was simply not doable, not even in the least, not even in my most desperate moments :-)))
I decided that I would have a little fun with her after I dropped a few of the lower end club names, and she proceeded to tell me how dangerous they are, etc...attempting to scare the Gringo traveler into a night of "bliss" with the likes of her delights. I was cordule, polite...but was a little aggravated that she was trying to scare me away from the clubs. I guess it's probably her marketing plan.
I proceeded to tell her that I've been coming to Monterrey for many years, that I frequent those clubs regularly, and that they are all perfectly safe...She began to talk about the girls, diseased, ugly, criminalistic, etc...
I told her that all of my girlfriends are total angels in almost every respect...
Who would have ever guessed that a few months later, there would be a triple homicide taking place at Givenchi?
So, I guess there are girls (MILFS) working the hotels, and the sidewalks, but I wouldn't classify them as typical streetwalkers, USA style...And, to add insult to injury, I would not classify the one I ran into as "eligible" to compete with even the least of the lower end club girls, much less the Divas we routinely have access to in the clubs.
I'm sure streetwalkers exist in Monterrey. But, it's just that I have never really seen them working the streets like you see them working the streets in the USA, with the exception of the areas Amigomio mentioned.
They are perhaps much more subtle about it, just as the MILF was quite subtle in her approach. Subtle, but also bold...walking right up to me at the Sheraton, in plain view of Security there, the guests, well lit area, etc...but, being very low key.
The only place I have really seen them working the streets USA style is along Colon, in the areas Amigomio referred to, and along certain parts of Madero down in the area of Harem, and sometimes a block or two to the South of Harem, parallel to Madero. And, mostly in that area, Trannies...YIKES!!! :-)
[QUOTE=Victor Lazlo]Well, I wouldn't quite say none. Two nights ago I was propositioned by a young lady right outside the Sheraton Ambassador on Hidalgo. They may not be swarming the area, but there are at least a few around, it seems.[/QUOTE]
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Victor, Bar Cicceros right across the Sheraton is a pickup bar for Pros and Non Pros.
Mostly more to the veteran, seasoned pro side like USB says, MILF's.
Might have been looking for extras at the Sheraton entrance. You might have bumped into her.
Or maybe one of the girls working at Maxims, right in midway between the Sheraton and the Radisson Ancira.
But no, one SG does not make a swarm.
Must have been your lucky day bumping into USB's girl.
Maybe you might have bumped into USB too (he does not solicit).
And there is one thing you have to consider Victor: Street walkers in Mexico are not like the girls walking at the border towns.
Street walkers here are truely the bottom of the barrel of the girls doing the Oldest Profession.
I avoid them like the plague.
Mostly, many of them are way past their "nice" years, older than the average club girl.
Of course you risk asking for trouble, cause many are thieves, no health checks, some are dangerous, crack *****s like the ones in the US.
I don't know what you bumped into, but I would NOT recomend them at all.
Much less get them inside the Sheraton, one of the last girl-friendly hotels in Monterrey.
And they HAVE to work the Sheraton, it's the only 5 star hotel that allows the guests to bring up a girl to the room via the front door.
PS: Guys reading this post, FYI, The Radisson Ancira I mention... impossible to bring a girl up to your room. Security is placed right where the elevators are. Local news once had a piece, of how the local escort services used to sidestep security, by going in the back way, via the kitchen, up the service elevator, spreading money around... no more.
[QUOTE=Victor Lazlo]Well, I wouldn't quite say none. Two nights ago I was propositioned by a young lady right outside the Sheraton Ambassador on Hidalgo. They may not be swarming the area, but there are at least a few around, it seems.[/QUOTE]
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No posts in 20 days? What's the story?
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Nobody from here's been down here, or if they have, they haven't posted anything.
Altough I have seen Americans at Infinito in the past weeks.
Heard one of them say it was their first time in Monterrey, but, first timers going straight to Infinito?
No one goes to Infinito without firsthand info, so maybe he must have gotten it from here, cause locals will not recomend the place.
[QUOTE=Ssmc2]No posts in 20 days? What's the story?[/QUOTE]