2007 Pattaya Reports
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2007 Pattaya Reports
Here's a cut-and-paste from the official Eden Club forum by Eden John, the manager at Eden Club Pattaya:
[COLOR=RoyalBlue]"Unfortunately Marc had a heart attack on Thursday & should be having surgery today, I talked to him today & he hopes to be out of hospital Monday or Tuesday.
We had a soft opening on Wednesday, with a large percentage of the girls being from The Eden Club Bangkok & a few new from Pattaya.
To make existing customers relaxed, the bar is almost an exact copy of Bangkok & all the rooms brand new.
We could have probably started with a greater number of girls, but to keep the same standards as Bangkok, we prefer to have a smaller number of good girls of the required quality rather than a large number of new girls, which could allow standards to drop.
We are having more girls both from Bangkok & new recruits over the next week, our intention is to slowly grow over the next few months whilst maintaining the same quality & customer satisfaction." [/COLOR]
There is a EdenClubPattaya web site (shouldn't be too difficult to figure out the address). Right now it only links to the official Eden Club forum, but Eden John said he hopes to post info to the Eden site in the coming week.
Evil
PS- Get well soon, Marc!
I'm passing this message along at the request of Marc. It's terrible news indeed and my deepest condolences go out to Marc, to Francis' family and to all who are mourning him.
"hi Guys
i didn't want to spoil everybody's Happy new Year, that's why I am posting only today
i have been hospitalized the 28th decembre 3pm
my best friend and partner in Eden Club Pattaya ( Francis ) came to see me the 28th and 29th December many times a day
the 30th December, I didn't see him coming, tried to call him at lunch, 1pm,2 pm, 3 pm 4 pm but his phone wasn't open
knowing that something was wrong I took out all the drains, cables, monitor and so on from my body, signed a discharge from the hospital and went straight away to Francis home
this is where I found him in his bed, deceased
i took care of everything with the police up to about 8pm
then went back to the hospital
the 31st 9am I got my double heart operation and left the same day at 10pm from the hospital
i went to the Club in Pattaya and announced to everybody this really sad news
i took at the same time the decision to shut down Pattaya
i did open Pattaya only for Francis ( some of you may have known him when he was running for a few months Eden Club Bangkok, he used to post as EDENUNCLE )
i am now selling both business ( brand new ) the Bar and the 12 rooms hotel at costing prices not looking to make any money on it
jsut asking the future buyer to change the name of the Club, not of the hotel
sorry to let you know that Eden Club Pattaya was running for only 4 days
i have no feeling to continue to go over there everyday and cry everyday thinking about my friend
there will never be an Eden Club Pattaya anymore
see you
marc"
I can only imagine how great this joint goes off at New Years!
I can't think of a better place to see in the new year.
And what would be better than enjoying the atmosphere here, then later assholing the atmosphere and having a 3-some with 2 hot Thai shelias!!!
Root on!!
Till 31th police volunteers patrolled so often on motorbikes after 8 pm that almost no girl stayed on the beach side (fine 100 B first time). They ruined my nights; everywhere is sex in Pattaya, but they foccuss on the beach.
On 31th a farang was stabbed near me in front of the internet cafe near Tipp plazza at 4pm 100 meters from police station but it took them about 30 minutes to come.
I was so angry against them that I ran into police station to shout that they had better fight real criminals than innocent girls, they said me to go...
Since 2 days pressure decreased, some girls come back, its too soon to state it will last.
This police action has spread freelancers , the oldest and ugliest staying on the other side, many better looking where waiting in front Tonys and Lucifers, some in front Marriott.
So the only thing they achieved is to turn the beach in a beautifull alley to allow russian females to go to their hotels quietly. They are very numerous and beautifull, dressed as *****s, but they are welcome because they bring currency in that hypocrit City...
Some pics (NO SEX, SORRY) from the crowd on 31th in Pattaya , that future touristic City...)
[QUOTE=Evil Penivel]there will never be an Eden Club Pattaya anymore
see you
marc"[/QUOTE]
Damn,
Although I'm glad I was able to indulge in Pattaya Eden just that one time I'm sadden that its already over. VIP
PT
[quote=small buterfly]
i was so angry against them that i ran into police station to shout that they had better fight real criminals than innocent girls, they said me to go...
[/quote]
i share your indignation, small butterfly, but must warn you brother to take care. we have all had that same urge - to walk up to a cop and tell him what you think - but it is a terribly dangerous thing to do. these fellows are simple thugs, who will have no understanding of what you say in any case, and will feel obliged to abuse you in some manner both for their own satisfaction and to emeliorate any loss of face. cops are the same the world over.
but enough ranting. i also found that the period before new years eve was just as tightly controlled as ever, but managed to find one good girl near ps in front of the 7-11. i suspect she was freelers three holer, though she did not squirt for me. absolutely excellent service however - the anus just sucked me in! later that same night i resorted to a girl from a bar on soi 7 who also provided excellent bareback three-hole service, but the total cost was about 1,100 baht, not forgetting my competely undesired drink. this is the net effect of shutting down the beach - upward pressure on prices, downward pressure on service. this affects even those mongers ignorant or unadventurous enough to dismiss the beach girls as 'pathetic'.
the next day i took one from the beach and one of the beach girls from her rooming house in soi chiaphum. overall i had as many lovely gapers during my visit as i would normally have had, but alas no more 'surprises' - you know the beautiful young girls one would occasionally find on the beach before they had to fear police action. virtually all the attractive girls have left the beach road trade, or are in jail. (one can only assume the police prefer to retain these, and one can only imagine why - [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]). perhaps one day soon we will have to go to the prison and pay the police for these girl's services - talk about [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url].
in an interesting note, the no-name rooming-house i referred to in my most recent post is actually a reincarnation of the blue wave guesthouse, which was condemned and/or shut down around a year ago. do any of you mongers remember that one just off second road? i had a lot of great sex in the blue wave, but it was annoying how the gangster/cop owner would charge you 20 baht to go upstairs, even to just check if a girl was there. i was told by a girl that the same policy applied on soi chiaphum, but no one at the desk insisted. there are a total of three rooming houses in that soi worth looking at for the beach-starved monger. here's hoping they aren't shut down - one doesn't know if one should even mention such places anymore on this forum!
[QUOTE=SpokaneHobby]I have been thinking of buying a bar in Pattaya but I have been worried about the political climate. Does any one have any info on what is going on there. I have been to Bangkok and Pattaya four times in the past year.[/QUOTE]
You have to have a 51% Thai Partner and now you have to leave every 90 and stay away 90 days before you come back. Your money will all be gone long before you return.
the dudes and ladies in dark uniforms would let a whole planeload of asians stroll on in as usual while they tore through my and a couple of other homeboy's stuff. looking for counterfit: software, sunglasses, rolexes (confirep001ed 7), and teamware. there is proposed legislation that could go on the books to fine you the full price of each item. chinese with thousands of dollars of gold around their necks strolling on in w/no questions asked. mind you, these guys at the big midwestern asian hubs don't understand the whole concept of travel to these p4p places. these are boy-next-door guys you want your sister to marry. they wouldn't even go to las vegas if they got a free ticket. if you do customs on the east or west coast they are more in touch with travelerers. but the bad news is that the feds are activley recruiting from midwest campuses because they are considered super morally sound. name one spy from the midwest. the more you go over there, the more they scrutanize you. i get hit with big duties on my goods now while a couple of years back they'd let me skate.
Here's the latest from Marc, posted on the official Eden forum. Marc asked all "friends of Eden" to pass on his message. I don't any details about the new place or its owners.
Evil
"hi Guys
first let me thank all of you for your support during this hard time
when I was telling that I was closing both business, I didn't mean closing BANGKOK which still open
I just meant closing Eden Club Pattaya and the hotel next door, The Waranya Inn
i did find a middle solution
The Club and the hotel has been sold yesterday
the new name will be THE HELL CLUB
website coming soon as : thehellclub.com
i will keep a very small part as a shareholder, enough to assure the owners of my expertise, launch the place during 1 month or maybe a little more, and give them the use of all my connections
the new owners are very flexible guys and the new policy will be :
1 lady possible
2 ladies or more possible
and the drinking side possible too ( as long as it isn't going out of control )
i will do my best to help them and then I will leave Pattaya
if the new owners need me for anything, I will be there for them anytime
see you
marc
[QUOTE=BuleDaddy]You have to have a 51% Thai Partner and now you have to leave every 90 and stay away 90 days before you come back. Your money will all be gone long before you return.[/QUOTE]There are countless ways around the 51% rule in Thailand, any reputable lawoffice will help you to setup whatever Thai goalie or crossownership company that you might need in order to be able to own the company yourself.
The visa is not a real issue either since it is still possible to buy visas for 90 days or running consecutively, I stayed here 90 days and then flew to KL and bought another 90 day visa for 50 Ringgit, no worries. Just remember to get the extra 30 days after the permitted 60 days you get on entry to Thailand.
[QUOTE=BuleDaddy]You have to have a 51% Thai Partner and now you have to leave every 90 and stay away 90 days before you come back. Your money will all be gone long before you return.[/QUOTE]
You could actually get a work permit and a non-imm B visa, you know. It's not that difficult.
I personally support the new visa rules. It keeps the riff-raff out and forces people who want to make money here, to do it legitimately and most importantly, pay taxes. I have too. Why should some guy, who owns a bar be allowed to stay here on a tourist visa?
Where will be a good spot for one to take in the Superbowl. Since a friend and I will be out of the States for the game, we would like to try and be in a football friendly enviornment. Anyone have any plans/advice. Or would you recommend we stay in Thailand? Newbies to SE Asia. How about renting out one of the bars? And if this is being done by one of the brothers. How about an invite.
Thanks in advance
Blitz
[QUOTE=BuleDaddy]The dudes and ladies in dark uniforms would let a whole planeload of Asians stroll on in as usual while they tore through my and a couple of other homeboy's stuff. [/QUOTE]
B-Daddy
You may have read my recent report on my experience at customs. I guess I forgot to mention that I am Asian and still got searched. I think the fact that I was a young man travelling alone to LOS and Philippines set them off.
Egg
I'm heading back to Pattaya in late January. My last trip was in Sep. 2005. Being away for some while, I do like to know if the prices for girls have changes. I used to pay 1000B/LT and 500B/ST for girl from beer bars. Not much experience for girls from go-go bars. I had one from Super Girls that was a dead fish and allowed only one sex. She insisted on 2500B which I firmly refused. After several calls from her mamasan and "sisters", I seetled at 1700B. No more go-go girl after that.
I just check the hetel rate. Prices for hotel rooms seem to raise a little bit. What about the girls?
Many thanks!