Sorry Junior
didn't see your report before I posted mine.
OK so prices in Forta are a bit higher??
However Fortaleza is a MAYOR Tourist city...so that explains the higher prices I reckon.
Good report!!
Thanks.
Johan.
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Sorry Junior
didn't see your report before I posted mine.
OK so prices in Forta are a bit higher??
However Fortaleza is a MAYOR Tourist city...so that explains the higher prices I reckon.
Good report!!
Thanks.
Johan.
Tomb:
read your report. Nice.
Only minor thing is WHY you badmouth Germans??
What they done to you?? Are we not all Mongers who like to have some fine puzz???
I mean did you actualy see how SOME Americans behave in DR???
Or in The netherlands?? (get here..get stoned..start a fight and then get wacked by some Dutch hilly billies....lol)
Come on Dude.......not all Germans are bad!!
Johan.
PS: I am Dutch!
Thanks for defending "the Germans" Johan007 !! Good to have the Dutch as our neighbours (I mean that in a positive way).
I am a Kraut ;-)) myself and actually didn't really feel THAT offended by Tomb's post..
Anyway: Last time I went to Recife was already a year ago and I didn't see too many non-Brazilian tourists, i.e., Americans, Dutch, Germans or any other nationality, there.
I stayed at the Sheraton, a couple of KM south of actual Recife city. Though directly at the beach, that hotel is relatively secure because of the hotel guards. However, once in a while, a garota de programa gets through to the pool / terrace area and will try to make contact with lonesome guys, especially when the families are not there. Once they are inside the hotel area, it's easy to get the garota to your hotel room (the elevators are partially out of sight for the receptionists). Unfortunately however, I've also seen gay man being allowed to cross the line between beach and hotel and approach the male folks tanning by the pool. Disgusting to me and you probably - but I've seen guests (OK, actually only one) there who invited the gay guy back upstairs to his room.
I personally didn't venture too much out by night and preferred hunting by daylight.
I agree with Juniour, the malls are another great way to pick up girls by day, aside from the (sometimes pretty dirty/littered) beaches of Boa Viagem.
I had to leave Recife after only 3 days but for my next trip sometime, I certainly would be interested in other opportunities to pick up girls in Recife, especially by day.
Anyone? Alguma pessoa?
I had a question - if anyone could please comment on this. I've been to Florianopolis (Floripa as they call it),and I'd say it's 99 percent european looking girls, Rio is probably 50-60, and I've heard that people in the North-East are primarily black (take Bahia for insntance). Is this true of North-East in general or only Bahia? I plan to spend a couple of months learning Portuguese in Recife, how are the girls in comparison to other cities, especially I am interested in non-pros/semi-pros. Or can you recommend a better place for extended stays (I prefer NorthEast due to temperatures year round).
Thanks! Sean.
an answer to this question if of course a major generalization, but given that, i'd say in recife it's
15-20% euro looking,
something less than 50% balck or native-african looking,
and more than 1/3 morena/mix looking.
Thank you Leo. Is this also true of most of NE coast, or other cities like (Olinda, Natal, Fortaleza, Maceio, etc) are different in that respect? I myself liked southern women look a lot, but I prefer north for its weather and beaches ;) Thanks!
In the North, I only know Recife, sorry I can't help you with other towns/cities.
recife/olinda extract from my full report, in the general info board (http://www.wsgforum.com/vforum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=555).
place: olinda - recife (pe)
pousada: hotel pousada no varadouro
address: rua 15 de novembro, 98 - varadouro - olinda (pe)
phone: (0xx81) 3439.1163
girl friendly? don't know, but i think yes
price: r$35 (double, ac, frigo)
day 1: friday. no action on olinda but some (ugly) sw in rua do sol. went to recife antigua, nice street show with drummers, nice dnb and ska/reggae concert in a nearby theatre, but no action there.
day 2: saturday. went to the famous sampa disco. it was really late, 3.00 am. no free g, but some ugly one. drinks was expensive. went outside, lots of sw on the rua de boa viagem. a couple of them i spoke to asked me r$30-r$50, but nobody had a document, so i declined. i spotted 3 or 4 really **** girl, i mean 12-14 y.o. please, please, please, for youself and for them, avoid them like plague!
well, that night i had a very bad mood due to those **** girls, so i went back to olinda and slept alone.
day 3: sunday. it was earlier than the night before, let's say it was midnight, but on sundays sampa disco was closed, so i went to the bamboo club. r$10 entrance fee, cheap drinks, no exit fee. 30g, rated 5 to 8, in real good mood. i had a loirinha, true 8 but personal 9, r$100 in motel, but i think i could have her for less. good experience, good gfe, but at the end she tried to sell me a photo, from the bamboo bar, for r$20. i declined. she offered to come with me at the beach, the day after, but i had to leave.
first of all, my information is very dated compared with many you see. but just to throw in my 2 cents. please feel free to correct me if i got it all wrong.
the city itself definitely is not as sophisticated and modern as rio or SP. many of the main roads are still non paved or paved poorly. so that gives you an idea. also, most cab drivers do not seem to know where they are going. it can be frustrating that they just run up the meter looking for the places. i did not take city bus and cannot provide report on the bus experience.
most girls in recife seems to be of a darker tone. this is not surprising since as you leave the airport, most passengers, male and female tend to be darker with a native feature to it. the place is real hot and muggy, even in the middle of winter. lots of moquitos flying around. however, te thing i love most about recife is their seafood. compared with SP and Rio, seafood in recife tastes much better and even fresher.
in terms of night scene and girl scene. since i spent only about 4 days 3 nights there, my experience is limited at best. i visited a couple of sauna joints (similar to Rio's termas) but the facilities there is at best primitive and the offering is extremely slim. i would say the girls there may range 3-6 most, not even one 7 or 8. the girl (a 5 on 10 scale) i took in to the room was so unsure about herself that she asked if i want to have sex with her. she told me i am too good looking for her and she is "more or less", so she was not sure. i respect the girls and don't judge girls just by the look but honestly, she was one of the more homely girls i met in brasil. which brings me to the point of my overall impression of girls in recife. honestly, since i love the morena claro and the loiras look of brasil, i am not the best judge of recife girls. i presume if you like mulatta and darker morena, you will like recife girl more.
Sampa club seems to be a nice boites with lots of street girls outside. in fact, many street girls would go into Sampa to work their trade. based on my two nights experiences, I met mostly full time, all pro girls. so they can be quite hardcore. the fee quoted ranges from R150-R250 for whole night however the two girls i met did a bait and switch on me and left after a few hours (their babies are sick. :)) also, i noted one of the girls stole my camera - albeit a very cheap camera. i consider myself an old brasil hand and converse pretty fluently portuguese but that was the first and only time i got things taken out from my room by the girl, especially by a girl who told me she "loves" me. :)
in terms of hotel, the parthenon hotel is real top notch and very cheap. i went there in winter and the rate was barely US$45- a night.
recife may not be the best place i visited in brasil but i may want to go back and just give it another chance. may be......
RECIFE UPDATE:
I've attached my old report from 9/01 to the bottom of this update. Most of the things I refer to are detailed there.
The street scene is much about the same. Girls proliferate down Conselheiro just about the same way and in the same frequency as before. IMO, quality has dropped off a bit -- and there's a new tendency in the girls to offer Gringo/Brasileiro prices as if you didn't know the difference. Don't pay more than 50R for these girls. Really.
The street scene, though, starts a whole lot earlier than I remember. I saw a lot of girls out there by 6 p.m. -- with peak hours around 1030-11, and the scene becoming pretty dead by 1a.m. (even on weekends).
The Chakatak/Bamboo area is as seedy as ever; maybe a little more so. Both clubs (each owned by a different ex-pat German) feature the same low-ish end type of girl for about 100R. If you're tastes run on the high end, you probably won't find much to get you excited here. Both have minimal entrance-exit fees.
"Sampa" was open this time, and had a higher end of talent (as expected) -- but not that high. On a busy night there're about 50 girls inside: some cute (7-8), but many in the 5-6 range. Prices varied on the girl with the 100-200R range being the norm.
Again, there're no facilities on site. Entrance is 15-20R (depending on the night), the there's a 10R exit fee for the girl. Drinks are normally priced.
Finally found "New Scandinavian Club." It's a little past the Chakatak/Bamboo area running to the south. I did not go in, buts it looks pretty large from the outside and is definitely worth a look. It might be a termas. Dunno. Check it out and let me know.
"Odette's" is a place new to me (but a Recife institution, apparently) that I got a chance to go to on three consecutive nights. It's one of those live-in "ranch houses" wherein the girls hang out in the evening, hook-up with a john (either having sex there or leaving with a fee) only to return to their rooms on site later that night (or when they return in the morning after an all-night stay).
It's got a pool and features good, mellow, live music most nights. It gets started a little earlier than the other clubs -- around 9 p.m. -- and will have about 30 girls to choose from at its peak. Many were pretty good looking (7-8 range), with none below a solid 6.5.
I only got one price quote from a girl -- 250R (which I easily talked down to 200R). It was for 2 hours. I didn't get a price for the rooms or the exit-fee. But, as there were many native Brasilian men there, I wouldn't think it'd be too high.
Also checked out a new club: "Cuba Club." It's WAY to the south (about 20 min. by cab). On a Tues. night it had about 15 girls -- many cute. It has a 50R entrance fee and has no taxi queue outside -- so getting a ride back into town can be a bit of a wait. Apparently the place is pretty happening on the weekends. I found it to be a little too far out of town with too high of an entrance fee to justify how few girls there were inside.
The "Parthenon Flats" complex might be the best place to stay. The residences are nice, and pretty cheap (50-100R, depending on size, etc.). Girls no problem.
I checked out Recife Antigua and found it to be totally devoid of action. Last time I was there, there was a definite garota presence (if low-end). I was there on a Sun. afternoon -- that was probably the problem.
On the whole, Recife wasn't as good as I remember. There weren't as many cute little busty loiras on the street, the girls at Chakatak/Bamboo were a little moochy-aggresive-not-that-cute, Sampa was only o.k., and the one girl I wanted at Odette's kept on getting away. Oh well. Maybe I'll have better luck next time.
Happy Hunting,
JWadd
P.S. I know this is a little off-topic, but definitely check out the beach on Sun. It's cuckoo-crazy busy and fun like American beaches wish they could be.
OLD REPORT:
Recife has a layered, compact scene. The main location for sex activites is near the southern terminal of Boa Viagem -- the main beachfront road. Orient yourself, though, about 2 blocks back from Boa Viagem, as the street itself is fairly dead.
Here, at the terminal, are most of the cities famous sex-bars: "Chakatak," "Bamboo," "Eclipse" and "Brazil Eden Club." The intersection for these four clubs -- all basically caddy-corner to each other -- is Souza Leao and Setubal.
At the time of this posting Eclipse and Brazil Eden Club had been closed for 6 months.
Chakatak is the cheapest club in this area. Entrance is free and drinks are cheap. Most of the girls are a little homely -- but the place is friendly and a good place to hang out. Most of the women asked somewhere between 50 and 100 reals. There are no rooms here. Must go to a sex-motel (or take them back to your own).
Bamboo, around the corner, is a little better. On any night there are about 50 girls here -- still mostly homely, but some tending to the higher range of the index. Most of the girls charge closer to the 100 reals end of the spectrum. Like Chakatak, there's no sex on-site.
Incidentally, there's a row of dirty, cheap restaurant-bars between these two venues. Almost all the girls you see hanging out here are available, and will probably show up at one of these two clubs sometime that night.
The most famous place in Recife is "Sampa Disco" -- about 5-7 blocks south on the large street inland from Boa Viagem. Many cute girls. Many hustlers. The two I were with both rushed the sex, and the second rather insolently insisted that it is "normal" to use two condoms. Big time attitude.
There are two termases in town: "Termos Club Mar" and "Termos New Club Scandinavia." I didn't go to either. The first is on Sampa street a few more blocks up.
Maybe the best scene, I hate to say, is the street scene. On any given night that first large inland street is teeming with fine young (all 18+) girls. And I mean fine. I know many of you avoid street walkers. Buuut....
Prices for these girls were all around the 50 reals range. Talk to them, flag a cab, and take them to the numerous sex-motels close by. Try "Del Rey" if for some strange reason neither she nor the taxi driver have any ideas.
There's some dire action in centro, in an area called "Recife Antigua." But it's almost medievally bad and should be avoided. The area is pretty rough, too.
Finally, the beach promenade isn't as safe as it looks. A group of guys tried to mug me there late-night. Take care.
Happy Hunting,
JWadd
P.S. The street I keep mentioning but never name (two in from beachfront Boa Viagem) is "Conselheiro Aguias" -- or something like that (I can't read my own handwriting!).
The girls at Sampa typically started price quoting around the 200 reals mark -- but were the most flexible I've seen in Brazil in terms of negoitiation. I got them both down to 100. They all ask for cab fare when your done.
Also, some of the Sampa girls seem to like to be paid first -- which could mean bad service. Sampa girls bunch up with friends -- so if you have a bad experience with one girl, chances are that all of her friends will give you similar grief.
I spent a few days in Recife, I think I could add some useful info. Bear in mind that language was not a problem for me.
Sampa was overpriced, from the entrance ticked (the price seems to depend on the day of the week, I was asked R$20 on a busy Friday), to drinks, to women (starting price is R$200, easily negotiable to R$150, even lower to R$100 after some talking). Around praca de Boa Viagem there were either ugly girls asking R$100 or some better women asking R$200 (I didn't try to negotiate); most girls are hardcore professionals here, almost all black or dark mulatas; plently of German speaking people here.
The best place at night is Avenida Conselheiro Aguiar, in front of Sampa. I hired a taxi and drove all along the street, talking to some girls, following advices of the driver (if you speak even a little Portuguese or Spanish, take a taxi at praca de Boa Viagem; those drivers know what you're looking for, they are willing to help you). To the south of Sampa, the girls look too young; a little to the north, a concentration of TS; further north, more women, but didn't look as good as those in front of Sampa.
Prices start at R$50, but some girls go for R$30, if you take her back in one hour or so; all night is R$100. I counted about 50 women total (excluding the young, TS and too old), of which some 15 or 20 were comparable to those inside Sampa.
Go to a motel (taxi drivers know them all), some are just R$15 for two hours, others are much better and charge R$40 for an overnigh stay.
Another option is to check out the Classifieds at Jornal do Comercio, specially the Sunday edition. I called some girls in, about three were deceptive, but three or four were very good. These girls know each other, you can tell one of them what's your preference, they try to get it for you.
Hope this was useful.
I was in Recife in September. Based on this forum's reports I did not expect too much, but in the end I found it pretty good.
I only went to the boate "Sampa", which had good reports here on the forum. I was more than satisfied.
Well, I did also take a long walk down Conseilheiro Aguiar to look at the SWs. But I would say, don't waste your time, they all have a "vaca" kind of demeanour, and none were very good looking. Most are young (lots of 18, 19yo). Price is 50r, but really I saw nothing I wanted.
Anyway, Sampa is the upscale option, but in Recife still very affordable. I could easily find an 8 or 8.5 looking girl for 100r, all night. They will probably ask for a little extra for the taxi home.
The majority of Sampa girls work at the boate every night. They get favourable terms from the club if they meet dress standards, turn up 7 nights a week and always arrive before midnight. Basically they avoid the 10r entry fee that a more part-time girl has to pay to go to Sampa. If she leaves with you, the girl pays a 10r exit fee to the club later on (this on top of the 10r exit fee that you pay).
Best time to arrive at this club is between 11:30pm and midnight, most of the girls will already be there, and you get to pick the best ones. Probably the only downside of this club is the limited selection, about 30-40 girls. Of these maybe ten girls rate a 7, 8, or 9. Of course YMMV, I admit I tend to like the dark eyed, caramel skin look that is common in Recife.
The Boa Viagem beach looks OK for hanging out, although not many people swimming there. Note, you should go early, I only made it around 3pm most days, and it was already winding down fast. The designated spot for garotas de programa is in front of the Recife Palace, about in the middle of the Boa Viagem strip. Best time to arrive is midday (easier said than done, I was still waking up from the night before).
Plenty of hotels in the Boa Viagem area. This is a big city so there are not really any informal pousadas here, just tidy commercial hotels ranging from 60-200 reais. I recommend Hotel Jangadeiro, on the beachfront avenue, cross-street Antonio Falcao (http://www.jangadeirohotel.com.br). About 90 reais with discount (you should always ask for discount or best rate, they drop the price about 20% without even blinking). I did not personally stay here so can't guarantee you it's garota-friendly, but someone else already recommended it so should be cool.
Recife appears to be a very good city for meeting non-pros. I got a lot of looks on the street, and plenty of girls like to flirt. I think if you lived in this city you would have all the action you could handle.
I have done RIO many times. Looking for advice from a poster who has been to a lot of the smaller cities. Looking for a much smaller city with a great beach and great food, not so dirty and expensive, with friendly people and some mongering scene. Suggestions or Comparisons requested.
Made a brief visit to Recife this month staying in the Recife Palace hotel on Boa Viagem beach. Well equipped hotel with reasonable rooms but didn’t bring anyone back there so can’t comment on their guest policy. A place to eat is Ilha da Kosta, off Avenida Conselheiro Aguiar which has good food and is popular with Brazilian couples. No pros in the restaurant although they are to be found all along this road being picked up by cars and taxis until daybreak.
Sampa, Tel: (81) 3465-3099, www.sampanightclub.com.br also on Avenida Conselheiro Aguiar is supposedly the best stripper and freelance girl bar in this part of town. Entrance on a Friday night was R$20 with drinks at around R$7 for a caipirinha and R$10 for a shot of whisky with ice. Some good looking women in here as well as many average ones. Most are pleasant but pretty hard core about business with a few having done the circuit in Portugal, Spain etc. It doesn’t take long before they ask you whether you are looking for a “programinha”. Cost can be negotiated from over R$200 to around R$100 depending on the girl which can annoy those who have worked in Europe. A visiting stripper from Săo Paulo did a short show on the pole which was ok.
The place shuts around 0400-0430 with most of the remaining girls congregating around the “churasco de gato” barbecue and the taxis outside. The star girls of the house however left quickly by taxi with boyfriend (and/or pimp) in tow. Didn’t go with anyone as I was tired and this type of place is not really my scene but it was an interesting evening anyway.
What about some massage parlors in Recife.
Is Sampa the best club to visit?