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Good read
Thanks for the good info kingswood, bargirl, part timer, studunt who can't suck a dick, back and forth we go. I go thru the same stuff. When you get my age you realize the only constant is I AM PAYING. So, my Ma was right all those years ago. You going to pay for it one way or another. Glad you had a good time and enjoyed the read
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[QUOTE=KingsWood; 1372146]I
During one night at Juliana at about 3 am I was sitting outside and observed two darlings walk outside with a gent. The girls suggested I join them. The American gent with them says its okay and in a short while he abandons them. Later I learnt he is a frequent visitor so maybe not as impressed with these girls as I was.
Both these girls looked stunning to me. One was small, petite, hair in a fancy bun and in a sequenced dress. The other was called Katherine and this was one of the most gorgeous working girl I would meet at Julianas, stunning and 24 yrs, just incredible.[/QUOTE]Nice report, hope you had a great trip.
To be honest the Phils is not a great place for sex in general if you ask me. The girls are not as "creative" and 'naughty as one will experience in say Brazil, eastern europe or Germany. I still go to the phils twice a year, but that is more down to the nice beaches, nice people and great prices. Mongering wise the german FKK's seems to be where its at at the moment.
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[QUOTE=Iigorvich; 1376009]Nice report, hope you had a great trip.
To be honest the Phils is not a great place for sex in general if you ask me. The girls are not as "creative" and 'naughty as one will experience in say Brazil, eastern europe or Germany. I still go to the phils twice a year, but that is more down to the nice beaches, nice people and great prices. Mongering wise the german FKK's seems to be where its at at the moment.[/QUOTE]I disagree, pinays are very naughty and far better than CIS and PRC IMHO but then I have the patience to 'educate' them as some of the senior members here will agree. When they have been throiugh (patiently) WR university most are very naughty. Otherwise why would I see them again LOL.
You need patience which is what many monger to the Philippines don't have due to time constraints or other reasons
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[QUOTE=Iigorvich; 1376009]Nice report, hope you had a great trip.
To be honest the Phils is not a great place for sex in general if you ask me.[/QUOTE]Hmm whilst we all respect everyone elses opinions here. Cough cough splutter splutter your last statement is a mind boggler to me. 5-6 trips a year for past 8 years. More sex than I could handle in 5 lifetimes.
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1379102]Hmm whilst we all respect everyone elses opinions here. Cough cough splutter splutter your last statement is a mind boggler to me. 5-6 trips a year for past 8 years. More sex than I could handle in 5 lifetimes.[/QUOTE]I assume that last sentence was tounge in cheek FF given what yopu do to Makati when you arrive for a long weekend. I visit the same number of times and look at me. Rhetorical comment FF (and anyone else!) , you know you can handle it FF and if you can't call your naughty twin to help out LOL
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Jury Out
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1376074]I disagree, pinays are very naughty and far better than CIS and PRC IMHO but then I have the patience to 'educate' them as some of the senior members here will agree. When they have been throiugh (patiently) WR university most are very naughty. Otherwise why would I see them again LOL.
You need patience which is what many monger to the Philippines don't have due to time constraints or other reasons[/QUOTE]Just got back from my first trip. The girls were very enjoyable and I will be back again. For the most part I found them very sexy, compliant, and willing to learn. I did have one DIA girl that rocked my world with very little work on my part. I've been craving Asian ever since my 2 year stint with a Chinese Sugar Baby. I didn't do enough DIA planning. I'll fix that.
I think what Iigorvich was trying to say is that FSU girls are sexier right out of the box. No assembly required. I've done both FSU P4P and dated a handful back in the states. Sometimes I think I'm actually in need of a real relationship. I know, I know, crazy thinking, right?
I dated a woman for Belarus. The first night at her place she came out of the bathroom crawling on her knees. First woman that actually begged me to fuck her in the a* without any prodding on my part. My young Romanian was so full of emotion, problem was she was that way in and out of bed otherwise I would have probably married her. Dodged a bullet.
At the end of the day there is very little pussy that I haven't enjoyed.
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WR uni?
I met (at least) one of the WRUni grads. She didn't do the "WRU WRU WRU" cheer for me, but she did ask me if there was anything kinky or weird I was "into". Bless her heart. She didn't let it show, but I think she was a bit disappointed when I told her I had a run-of-the-mill lingerie / underwear fetish.
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1376074]I disagree, pinays are very naughty and far better than CIS and PRC IMHO but then I have the patience to 'educate' them as some of the senior members here will agree. When they have been throiugh (patiently) WR university most are very naughty. Otherwise why would I see them again LOL.
You need patience which is what many monger to the Philippines don't have due to time constraints or other reasons[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=X Man;1382775]I met (at least) one of the WRUni grads. She didn't do the "WRU WRU WRU" cheer for me, but she did ask me if there was anything kinky or weird I was "into". Bless her heart. She didn't let it show, but I think she was a bit disappointed when I told her I had a run-of-the-mill lingerie / underwear fetish.[/QUOTE]LOL Xman.
She was a tad disappointed but then she does have some very extensive education which is not run of the mill LOL. But I am back very soon to recommence lessons so she and others will be suitably kinky while I am there. Yummy.
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Ayala mall
Currently in Cebu and found Ayala Mall quite a fertile hunting ground. I have struck lucky there in each of my previous trips. FL's are out looking for business. Sure they are not as in your face as, say, Makati, but they can be found. My approach is to smile and say hello to any girl I fancy shagging, but to also keep walking by. Normal, respectable girls may just smile, but FL's will take the bait and follow me and initiate conversation. The rest, as they say, is history. What I have noticed is that prices have inflated over the past 3 years. Their opening gambit is 2000. 3000 but this can easily be negotiated to 1000. 1500 ST.
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Just to resurrect the ST hotel discussion for a minute.
The ValleyFront website makes them look relatively legit. I didn't see any short time rates listed. They do advertise a PHP 550 special. I assume the 260 rate is available to walk-in customers.
Do they require an I'd from one or both people to check in?
It looks like a huge step up from the Roman Plaza in Davao where the same price gets you a room that you don't want to take your shoes off in, a towel thin enough to work as a veil in some Middle Eastern countries, and a condom for your new friend.
Cheers,
SbySW.
[QUOTE=Brymor; 1297559]Anyway the name of the place is the ValleyFront, it seems to be as I said much nearer to Mango Square than the Queensland and the short time rate was 260. It is not only cheaper than the Queensland but it is in better condition and more convenient.
The full address is Happy Valley Road, corner of V. Rama Ave.
[url]www.valleyfronthotel.com[/url]
Tel (+63-32) 255-9987[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=FruitNinja;1379392]At the end of the day there is very little pussy that I haven't enjoyed.[/QUOTE]You should be grateful you don't have to fuck my wife.
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[QUOTE=Python75;1383047]Currently in Cebu and found Ayala Mall quite a fertile hunting ground. I have struck lucky there in each of my previous trips. FL's are out looking for business. Sure they are not as in your face as, say, Makati, but they can be found. My approach is to smile and say hello to any girl I fancy shagging, but to also keep walking by. Normal, respectable girls may just smile, but FL's will take the bait and follow me and initiate conversation. The rest, as they say, is history. What I have noticed is that prices have inflated over the past 3 years. Their opening gambit is 2000. 3000 but this can easily be negotiated to 1000. 1500 ST.[/QUOTE]Interesting info on the Ayala ST price info. I've been in cebu full-time for the past year, and though I'm at ayala all the time, I haven't taken any girls out of there (though I did get one number I didn't follow up on). I have my regular gf on the weekends, then pretty much can play all I want during the week. Personally, I avoid the P4P venues as for the money, I've had very few good experiences in cebu. For that manlia / angeles works much better for me.
What's been working for me has been meeting "regular" girls bumming around places like SM and Robinson's, and then of course DIA. I used to do straight up ST propositions, and that often worked fine but what I've found is many freelancers seem more comfortable if they are treated like a regular girl, even thought everyone involved knows exactly what game is being played. I have also found that I get better all around service if I tell them I don't have a gf (they always ask if there is a wife or gf in your life). I usually give some line about not wanting anything serious now, and leave it at that. After determining I want to fuck them and there seems to be some mutual interest, I ask her if I can take her somewhere we can be alone. When she says sure, to Queensland we go.
Usually what follows is good to great girlfriend sex. Now the money. I have found some of these girls will actually be offended if you give them too much money on the first "date". Depending on what I intuit about her, I may only give her some taxi money. Actual taxi money. P100 to P150 pesos. This is particularly true if she has a good job or her family seems relatively well off (as what she's told me about them, her situation, her clothes and accessories, etc). If I feel she is strictly working, I will give her P500 for the short time and P150 for taxi, so around P650 or so total.
Doing it this way, I have never had any girl complain about the money and I've found some great regulars who don't cost alot of money. When I was doing the up front ST propos, I found things cost more and the service was much more hit and miss and I less frequently found a good regular.
At first it seemed counter-intuitive to not get an up-front agreement on money and what she was willing to do, but for me this approach has worked best for me and I always now have more pussly on tap that my libido can handle.
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Riverman, you have just given hope to all the cheap charlie koripots on the forum. Probably (although it might not seem logical) , the fact that you actually live in Cebu makes things different for you viz a viz the usual P4P visitor. Having lived there for a year, you must speak some Visayan. Anyway, I have never been fortunate enough to meet a middle class girl who is happy with 150 pesos (in my humble experience I have found that Pinoy Pride has the girls saying things that aren't true (middle class) and accepting little money (150 pesos) , without mentioning that it is below their expectations. Since you told them you aren't looking for a GF, then the scenario of them happily accepting such a small amount in hopes of snagging someone LT would not be relevant. Then again, you might not be one of the old, fat, bald, and less than handsome (like me) average ISG members.
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[QUOTE=David_33;1383983]Riverman, you have just given hope to all the cheap charlie koripots on the forum. Probably (although it might not seem logical) , the fact that you actually live in Cebu makes things different for you viz a viz the usual P4P visitor. Having lived there for a year, you must speak some Visayan. Anyway, I have never been fortunate enough to meet a middle class girl who is happy with 150 pesos (in my humble experience I have found that Pinoy Pride has the girls saying things that aren't true (middle class) and accepting little money (150 pesos) , without mentioning that it is below their expectations. Since you told them you aren't looking for a GF, then the scenario of them happily accepting such a small amount in hopes of snagging someone LT would not be relevant. Then again, you might not be one of the old, fat, bald, and less than handsome (like me) average ISG members.[/QUOTE]Now that I've got my approach down, I'm sure it would work fine if I wasnt here full time. I do think, however, that ones own frame of mind comes into play. If you only have a week or two, then I can see it being stressfull taking a chance on a girl without getting that up from deal nailed down.
As regards "middle class" that is very relative. A girl who's family live in an actual house, albiet crumbling with a roof that leaks like a sieve, is in a much better situation than a family that lives in the cemetary or in a squatter slum / village. The real point is that, if you talk to them like a regular person, listen to what they have to say, smile at them, compliment them, show some empathy then many of these girls don't want to appear the working girl to you.
The standard of living that we would consider "middle class" here is solidly in the rich category. The hot rich girls here I always see with very handsome pinoy guys or ugly pinoy guys that are obviously from very wealthy families (yes, that young man is vastly obese, but that $10, 000 watch on his wrist sure is nice). These girls never even look at me.
By good job, I really mean ANY job. One girl I saw works as an assembler at an electrons company. She makes PHP 8, 000 per month. About $200 USD. Another is an agent in a call center making PHP 18, 000 per month. Both of these girls wouldn't even take taxi money the first time.
With this type of girl, if I feel she won't take anything on the second date, I will buy her something at Unisilver like a bracelet or neckless or something for P500 or P600. While I don't want to overpay, I don't want to be a total cheap charlie either.
Regarding looks, if the girl is willing to sit down with you and have a coke, or coffee, or jollibee or whatever, then you are good looking enouph for her. I just make sure that they know I'm not looking for a serious relationship before I get romantically charming, a little touchy feely (hand on her arm, touching her back, holding her hand, etc) , or see if she will go somewhere we can be alone. If she wants to keep hope maybe I will fall in love with in this process down the road, then that is her issue, I've given fair warning. I'm mid forties and rather fat. Perhaps my face is handsome, but I'm sure not winning anyone's stud contest.
If at any time a girl starts to scam me with sob stories or pumping me for large sums of piso or presents, I dump her forthwith. Once it starts it only gets worse. At that point, I go on the hunt for fresh action if I don't already have something in the back pocket.
David, I don't want to give you the impression that most of these girls I see won't take my money or that I don't give it. The majority of them need it and will take it. There are those girls, however, who its better to wait until the 2nd or 3rd "date" before you give them the full ST (for me thats P650 all-in) amount.
The important thing for the girl, is that in her mind she is not a prostitute. We didn't talk money up front, agree to any specific acts or any of that. We are friends. We are agreed that we will have an ongoing relationship and friendship. She has gifted me with sex. It is kind of me if I gift her with money later, but it is a kindness as we never stipulated that. Here they call this "special friends." She has given me something I need, and I have given her something she needs, without any specific demands. This is friendship no? This may be putting lipstick on the pig, but I'm I didn't create these girls psychology, I only take it as it comes.
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Like they say in LOS: "up to you". I still think that 650 is on the cheap charlie side. I have never given less than 1000 (around $25) , which seems to be in line with most of the forum posters. I could very well be overpaying, but after seeing how some of these girls live, I don't mind the extra $10. Then again, I don't live in Cebu and your situation is probably a lot different than mine. I just didn't want sporadic visitors to Cebu to get the idea that 650 is what should be given a girl who has performed well. Just MHO. Everyone has their own idea on what to give the girls. If you are comfortable giving 650 and haven't been labeled as a koripot and someone to avoid by the girls, then its working for you. Anyway, there are also guys who have posted that are so clueless, they think that just because the girls don't ask for money, that means that they shouldn't give them a peso.