Hm, all this talk of GT has me interested. I'm not hearing much about PGH these days, and even in the PHG forum! I'm tempted to make a trip down there next weekend.
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Hm, all this talk of GT has me interested. I'm not hearing much about PGH these days, and even in the PHG forum! I'm tempted to make a trip down there next weekend.
This, my 3rd visit to PHG, was the first in winter time. Obviously, my first 2 visits were good, or I wouldn’t have returned, but I found PHG busy and very crowed on a Sunday night. The summer patio and garden were closed. The main bar/meeting room consisted of a line of ladies on stools against the wall, a line of men at the bar and a small sofa area of men relaxing. Another room, a bristro/bar, was used mainly for dinner time or men relaxing. With the ladies and men relatively separated, what was missing IMO is the mixing of ladies & men that occurs at most other clubs. I personally like the opportunity for chit chat to size up the “chemistry” quotient. The apparent large numbers attests to the success of this “assembly line” format. For locals, this McDonald’s fast food approach works, especially if repeating with a girlfriend. For tourists like me, the Frankfurt clubs are more the “destination” clubs of choice, where you can literally spend 6 hours plus without any problem. Maybe I’m spoiled with the Frankfurt clubs but I found the average age of the ladies at PHG about 3 - 5 years greater on average. Also, CIM was not available with the 3 ladies I met which is standard fare at most clubs. Overall, kind of a bummer, but I’ll try again in the summer when the garden re-opens.
[QUOTE=Westsider]I found the average age of the ladies at PHG about 3 - 5 years greater on average. Also, CIM was not available with the 3 ladies I met which is standard fare at most clubs. Overall, kind of a bummer, but I’ll try again in the summer when the garden re-opens.[/QUOTE]What is your opinion on Golden Times just around the corner? Right now IMHO the place is rocking and the youngsters doing CIM are definately there. Have you been lately?
[QUOTE=Woofiee]Hm, all this talk of GT has me interested. I'm not hearing much about PGH these days, and even in the PHG forum! I'm tempted to make a trip down there next weekend.[/QUOTE]I will be there at 01/19/06, report will follow.
I was there on Tuesday night - definitely rocking. Great selection of beautiful sp of all shapes, colors and sizes, good atmosphere, and pretty busy for a wet wintry night. And yes, I can confirm that CIM was definitely available at least with the young beautiful Czech woman that I asked.
Hi all,
I will be in Frankfurt for the weekend. Thinking about Oase one afternoon/evening, Golden Time another. Any preference Saturday to Sunday for one or the other?
What is the travel time via rail/taxi from Frankfurt Hbhf? Is it a day trip distance. Not exactly sure if GT is Dusseldorf based?
Much appreciated the club seems to be "hot" right now and I want to check it out.
S
As someone who dislikes GT for a number of Management related reasons, and sort of likes PHG as good large scale club in the Düsseldorf Area, I cannot stand seeing all this GT talk going on on the PHG thread.
But on to the question...GT is a Düsseldorf area club. I just checked the [url]www.db.de[/url] site and see that it takes a train 2:51 to get to Kaldenkirchen from Frankfurt. From Kaldenkirchen it is a 10€ cab ride. The regular cost of the trip is about 65-71€ each way, although with the bahn you can often find deals, like if you firmly book a specific train each way you can get the round trip for the price of a one way and sometimes they have the 29€ anywhere in Germany deal or something like that.
So it is your call whether 3 hours each way (driving would take the same time) is a day trip for you or not.
If it helps your decision the entry charge in the Düsseldorf area is 15€ les than the frankfurt norm, and each additional half hour in a longer session is only 25€ instead of 50€ like in Frankfurt, and extras like CIM are 25€ instead of 50€, so depending on the way you monger you might make the train price back.
i recently returned to the nrw clubs for a two day visit after an absence of 1.5 years due to my addiction to frankfurt fkk's. unbelievably, i only spent 600 euro total on this trip- and that included amsterdam groceries and three nights in the hotel for me and wim. since i am making monthly trips lately, it is time to start budgeting. airfare was another $425 on delta and i had the exit row to myself on both flights and slept like a baby on the way over so i was rested and ready to hit the bricks.
yes, for the first time i couldn't get a gfe session on a trip. maybe i need the nudity and couch action of fkk's to make proper selections, maybe i was unlucky, but all of my five sessions had restrictions and professional attitude, there was no magic moment this time. at phg on saturday jan 14, the ratios sucked most of the day but there were many of my dutch friends gathered there for a reunion so that made the evening a lot of fun nonetheless. i think the manager has improved the smoke situation. the dinner was late, 8:30 pm and caused a major mob scene in the nachtbar, all the men waiting to eat afraid to miss the meal in the room. as for the girls, the comparatively sterile lineup of girls against the wall just looking as you walk back and forth wasn't working for me.
when i did choose, the sessions were cold and sterile. my first, a hard bodied blonde 24 year old polish farm girl named bianca provided athletic sex and very nice bbbj deep throat and ball licking . she had lovely high hard natural appearing but silicone c's but did not kiss or allow much daty, although deep fingering was ok. strange. (1 hour, first session of trip). second was a cute short romanian blonde dana who was shy and distracted in the room, had recently had a child, and spoke almost no english. again, a perfunctory 30 minute session. finally, near closing, i decided to try a cute blonde [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] who was busy all night. the 19 year old german melanie indicated kissing was fine at the bar but in the room made no attempt to provide any sort of genuine interaction and tried to tell me time was up at 20 minutes.
the second day at golden time was no better, although it's always fine to relax with buddies, enjoy the beers, saunas etc and the scenery. see the other fkk thread for details on gt.
beffen
[QUOTE=Beffen1]I She had lovely high hard natural appearing but silicone C's but did not kiss or allow much DATY, although deep fingering was OK. Strange. [/QUOTE]Hi Beffen / P****. Its so strange not to call you P****!
Once again I am sorry to here of the lack of GFE. Can I say that my NRW trips ave been very GFE, with one exception recently at GT, but I walked out on the session with Kiene problem.
One thing [url]www.worldlingo.com[/url] tought me, that I always slip in now before going to room is "Kussen sie in zimmer?" (IHAVE SINCE LEARNED IT SHOULD BE "DU") It always causes amusement and has always been respected with a straight answer and a smile - "yes I do" or "No, sorry."
I recommend picking up pices of pidgeon german from that site, because it does engratiate you with the locals. They always get great amusement at your absolutely TERRIBLE german. They think its cute.
The GT Ggirl Rocksana / Ocksana that blew my socks off at Christmas now regularly texts me in Deutsche and I can translate and text back. Its great fun and better than reading the same old porno stories on th emesage board. more productive too. (This is not a lecture - just sharing what works for me)
See ya later,
Mike
Hi Mike,
Sorry, but I had to laugh when you wrote this:
"One thing [url]www.worldlingo.com[/url] tought me, that I always slip in now before going to room is "Kussen sie in zimmer?" It always causes amusement and has always been respected with a straight answer and a smile - "yes I do" or "No, sorry."
Because: "Kuessen Sie..." is the Formal, and "Kuessen" is a very intimate thing to do. So it sounds kind of weird not to use the Informal "Kuesst Du..." if you know what I mean.
But as long as you get your point across, I guess it's no big deal.
Btw: Why can't you practise "Kuessen" outside the room first, just to get a taste and make sure the "Kuessen" is the real DFK we all seek, as opposed to a peck on the cheek? That's what we do in the FKKs around Frankfurt, ja?
Ortos
[QUOTE=Ortos]Hi Mike,
Because: "Kuessen Sie..." is the Formal, and "Kuessen" is a very intimate thing to do. So it sounds kind of weird not to use the Informal "Kuesst Du..." if you know what I mean.[/QUOTE]Thats whay they always laugh, which just prooves what a complete ass I am and how unreliable automatic teaching tools are.
I do know about "Du" but I was always warned not to use"Du" because it can cause offense.
Thanks for the lesson. Got any more? Like when do I use Shiatzi and when do I use Suss? (Sorry - no esset on my keyboard)
[QUOTE=Ortos]Hi Mike,
Btw: Why can't you practise "Kuessen" outside the room first, just to get a taste and make sure the "Kuessen" is the real DFK we all seek, as opposed to a peck on the cheek? That's what we do in the FKKs around Frankfurt, ja?
Ortos[/QUOTE]This is actually quite a good point and worth discussion on its own.
With not being a German speaker and with the NRW clubs having less English speakers in them, it is much harder to get a discussion and a "rapport" going first. The Girls also find it harder to judge if they have a "slae" or not I guess. After all, they don't just go around slurping over every guy in the place for no prospect of immediate gain do they?
So it can be hard, when you are struggling with basic phrases, to get intimate. I mean - what do yuo do? Ask, "tiefer Kuß bitte?" and pucker up LOL? It can be awkward and language is such an important tool that we all take for granted.
Usually aswell, because prices are cheaper, the Girls at NRW are visibly less inclined to give the free couch action before. By this, I mean you can plainly see the lack of couch action going on. the girls will sit and chat especially with known customers, but usually thats it, then its the room, the kino or the Garden when its usually all paid. However at €75 for the first hour and €50 per hour thereafter its hard to tell who is paying and who isn't. Its common for Girls to be booked for two hours or so.
So there you have it, English speakers are less likely to get GFE because we are at a disadvantage. Some girls will get smoochy with you beforhand, it DOES happen in GT etc... just a lot more difficult and the dreaded "Schlüssel" question arises typically very quickly as they get bored of you.
Mike
Hi Mike- Thanks for blowing my cover.
Ortos- Of course you know that is what I did, most times I asked about kissing and even stole a few samples at the bar. But once in the room, the kisses stopped. Admittedly there were no introductory DFK as one can find in FFM clubs so I guess I should have known. Just bad luck, my turn for a subpar trip I guess.
One thing about PHG is that when you are closing the deal, you are most always pressed cheek by jowl with everyone else in the bar, people trying to get by, reach the bar, talk to their friends, etc. Not really relaxing- more like a gauntlet. Ten days and counting until I return to the wide open spaces of FFM FKK's. Be there or be square.
beffen
[QUOTE=Beffen1]Hi Mike- Thanks for blowing my cover.
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I had no idea it was secret - Doh.... I have removed it before anyone else sees.
I will be there too at World. I want to use my nice new shiny red card and flights from Easyjet are like for nothig at the moment.
Mike
Hey Gents,
I made a short trip to PHG last night (Sat.) and must say that I was not blown away.
@Beffen: I also did a dance with Melanie and I would not repeat. Pretty dull session really. She also sang a song about how terrible it is to work at a club where she only gets 50 Euro per half-hour and that most guys give her at least 80.
I had a better time with a big blond from Hungary named Malina (I think that was her name). I would probably have another go at her.
PHG has always been a pretty good place but I was disappointed in both the line-up and the atmosphere; A first for me at this place. Let's hope that it is just a phase.
Cheers,
Dedalus