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answers
Here are my answers.
1) I don't know Help in Rio. I believe you mean discos where common people go. Yes, there are plenty. Da Mata for example is a nice place IMHO.
You said you will stay in Vila Olimpia area and there you will find a lot of bars with or without live music where people meet and it is easy to find company.
2) Sorry I don't know. Actually I don't know any strip club in SP (probably because that is not my type of place). Anyhow, I suggest that when you get in you ask to someone if girls are available for take out.
[QUOTE=Scandic]A little back and forward here. Just wanted to delete my question number two, about apartments/hotels. There are good enough info on here already, and I will go for Itaim Bibi/Vila Olimpia or Pinheiros.
So, here are my updated questions:
1) Are there "normal" discos, more like Help, in SP as well? A place with many freelancers, but not a straight brothel where you do all the choosing? Does Love Story have many freelancers, or are they very hard to find there? I prefer non-pros though. Guess there will be great nightlife every night in such a big city.
2) Are strippers in stripclubs almost always available for take-out?[/QUOTE]
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Hi,
I will be in SP at 3rd and 4th March and will be staying at Mercure Grand Hotel SP Ibirapuera. Is it ok to bring woman to the hotel and are there nice places where I can find beautiful women?
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[QUOTE=Scandic]Hi,
1) Does SP have discos like Help, where there are available freelancers? If I don't get non-pros (my first choice), a place like Help would be perfect. I don't want a typical brothel, where I choose, and the girls have no choice. I want a more GFE-experience. Other suggestions/thoughts?
2) We are on a budget, and haven't decided where to stay. Going two people, maybe renting apartment (for about one week) would maybe be best choice (at least for meeting women). We are going out at night, to bars/discos, and want to stay "centrally located". Any tips on where to rent shorttime apartment, or budget hotels where we can take women? What area would you recommend (to stay) for tourism/partying/meeting girls?
3) I have read about a few stripclubs. Are strippers in most places available for take-out (guess that is generally expensive)?
I am thankful for any help. Btw, I speak very limited portuguese (will learn a little before I go though). I speak good english and some spanish.[/QUOTE]
First off, you should know that SP is a very different environment than Rio for Mongering, in my opinion. Not only are the laws different, but also the kind of girls as well. Clubs cannot have rooms on premise, and the spa/termas are very well disguised as legitimate spas. Also, interestingly enough many girls I've been with in SP have told me that they don't like men from Rio because they are too "fresh" and "barbaric" with them. Demanding extreme services like anal or getting as much sex as possible in the alloted time. That said, I have had some incredible experiences in SP that are in some ways more enjoyable than the kind I have had in Rio. Some PSE some GFE.
Cafe Photo is the nightclub for picking up girls to take back to your hotel. There are others like this Gauguin in Brooklyn Novo, but Cafe Photo is pretty much the Gold standard. High entry fee and per drink costs, but generally very attractive women....all of which are pro. I have not heard of a place that mixes pros and non-pros in SP like Help, but Cafe Photo is outstanding as far as the quality of the girls....and you can usually spend quite a lot of time flirting and talking with them at the club. Gauguin is OK, but some nights seem to be better than others there. There are a lot of girl friendly hotels in Brooklyn Novo around Gauguin including the Hilton and Quality Inn, and it seems to be central to everything else, including the subway system. R.$10-30 cab rides can get you to most of the other hotspots in the city.
The only strip club I have heard anything good about in SP is Kilt, which is your typical American style strip club with private dance areas. I know that the girls are available for take out, but there is usually some kind of exit fee. It's not my kind of scene, so I couldn't tell you anything more. Instead, I tend to go to the upmarket spas like Francebel.... which offers upmarket girls in a massage parlor setting for about R.$300 an hour. A little bit more pricey than some of the termas in Rio, but the girls tend to be on the high end of the scale, in my opinion.....Along the lines of Centaurus or Solarium in Rio and they all tend to give good massages too. I know that there are cheaper and less sophisticated spas and strip clubs, but as a solo non-drinking guy looking for action, the spas offer the most rewarding experiences in SP. Safety is also a concern at some of the lower end places, IMO.
If your Portuguese is not good, simply write the names and addresses of the places you want to go, and most hotel based cab drivers will know how to get there. Carry your hotel's address with you as well. Once you are at the place, all of the massage places will know why you are there, and they can arrange for cabs back to your hotel. I speak good Spanish, and can have great conversations with the girls in "Portuņol".
I have not done the apartment rental thing because I tend to always go to SP and Rio on business, but many of my buddies have had success with some of the websites, paying about $1000US/week for really nice places in SP and Rio. One buddy who frequently vacations in Brazil doesn't even bother with Sao Paulo and spends his time in Rio and Buzios.
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[QUOTE=Adaptable] I have not heard of a place that mixes pros and non-pros in SP like Help[/QUOTE]
Love Story. Rua Araujo 232 (Republica area).
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=843647&postcount=89[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=844104&postcount=94[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjcYSYQdkPY&NR=1[/url]
[QUOTE=Adaptable] Clubs cannot have rooms on premise[/QUOTE]
Bomboa has rooms. As many other clubs in SP.
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[QUOTE=Adaptable]
... First off, you should know that SP is a very different environment than Rio for Mongering, in my opinion. Not only are the laws different, but also the kind of girls as well. Clubs cannot have rooms on premise ... [/QUOTE]
Actually there are plenty of clubs with rooms on site to have fun with a chica.
For a start, about every club down Augusta has rooms available.
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Misterium
Anybody been there ?
It seems to be the former Conniff, but in new premises obviously. Still in Pinheiros though.
[url]http://www.conniff.com.br/misterium/misterium2.html[/url]
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Thank's
Albert Punter, Adaptable (!!), Prosal and Ricker.
Thank you very much for your input. It will be very helpful.
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[QUOTE=Ricker]Actually there are plenty of clubs with rooms on site to have fun with a chica.
For a start, about every club down Augusta has rooms available.[/QUOTE]
That's interesting. I've had local guys tell me otherwise, and that the mayor cracked down on places like Bahamas a few years ago. What places on Rua Augusta specifically? I will be back in SP in March/early April.
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Lots of clubs
Casarao, Balneario, Nova Maison, and Night House, just to name a few, have room on the premises. If you include the cheapo bars on Consolacao (Carioca Bar, Deusa'a Bar and others) there are plenty of locations to indulge on site. Just watch for bright neon lights, especially on Rua Augusta.
[QUOTE=Adaptable]That's interesting. I've had local guys tell me otherwise, and that the mayor cracked down on places like Bahamas a few years ago. What places on Rua Augusta specifically? I will be back in SP in March/early April.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Voyajer1]Casarao, Balneario, Nova Maison, and Night House, just to name a few, have room on the premises. If you include the cheapo bars on Consolacao (Carioca Bar, Deusa'a Bar and others) there are plenty of locations to indulge on site. Just watch for bright neon lights, especially on Rua Augusta.[/QUOTE]
Excellent! Thank you. More adventures in SP. What time do these places get going? If I go in the early evening (8pm-10pm), will there be any action?
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[QUOTE=Adaptable]That's interesting. I've had local guys tell me otherwise, and that the mayor cracked down on places like Bahamas a few years ago. What places on Rua Augusta specifically? I will be back in SP in March/early April.[/QUOTE]
Actually, all of them.
I was just there 2 nights ago ... up in the room.
Specifically ... Night House.
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[QUOTE=Adaptable]Excellent! Thank you. More adventures in SP. What time do these places get going? If I go in the early evening (8pm-10pm), will there be any action?[/QUOTE]
Better after 10pm, even better after 11pm.
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New Cafe fotos
If you visited the new local of Cafe fotos we would like to have your comments.
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[QUOTE=Sperto]What I find impressing in São Paulo is the wide range of P4P. At the top the places where GK hangs out, and in the bottom a scene that's so extremely low and trashy that even I wrinkle my nose. Ed Itatiaia, R d Andrades 69, BJ-cinemas and streetwalkers so ugly that they give you goose bumps.[/QUOTE]
No more wrinkling of my nose when I visit Rua dos Andrades 69.
Last week I hade one hour to kill and decided to take a look at the 9 (?) story wh#re house in centro.
Twenty year old beautiful Luana works on the second floor. Very large natural breasts which were the most firm natural breasts I ever squeezed. Very amazing! Well invested 20 reais.
What I like most with Sao Paulo is leaving it. However it's quite fun to watch the paulistas dressing in winter clothes when the temperature goes down to 17 degrees.
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[QUOTE=Sperto]
... What I like most with Sao Paulo is leaving it ... [/QUOTE]
Hey amigo, I dig your reports, info and posts.
Not sure why you enjoy leaving Sao Paulo.
I really dig the place and am sad when I have to leave.
Taker easy ...