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Homers,
Welcome to the punter's paradise! Once you have tried the FKK experience, there is no going back. I remember my first time very well - it was unlike anything I had ever imagined. You asked if there are other FKKs around and within easy reach. Yes, there is one other really good place within a short cab ride from Hauptbahnhof. It is called Sudfass. Strictly speaking it is no FKK, and very few girls kiss; no BBBJ either. But otherwise it is quite similar, the girls are almost naked; you wear only a towel; approximately the same prices, but smaller entrance fee. No free drinks. There is alwasy a very good selection of girls there. I have gone many times, but am now hooked to FKKW, Atlantis (closed now), Oase in Burgholzhausen, and the Palace. Maybe you are interested. Tell the taxi driver "Sudfass" (pronounced "soot-fuss"), and he will get you there.
The experience you had where your first girl upped the ante to 100 is quite common. I never say yes right away, always telling her to see how it goes during the first half hour. I have extended my sessions to an hour many times, but very oftern I have also limited my losses when it became clear during the first few minutes that there was no chemistry. Once you have agreed to the 100 for the hour, you cannot get away with paying 50 any more.
I will go to the Palace on the 15th, and I will give Fani a try. Sounds like a great girl to have fun with.
By the way , please let us know what time of day and what day of the week your visit was.
Jaas: Yes, they all take credit cards. Many of the FKKs also have an ATM machine right on the premises.
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Jaas,
You don't want to use a Credit Card, unless you have a very permissive expense account. They will charge you at least a 10% service charge. Use your bank card at an ATM.
To Euro and Homers,
Südfass is more of an old fashioned brothel and not really a club. The other FKK in Frankfurt city proper is F35 along the Main on the Hanauer Landstrasse.
But you really should try the out of town options, they are in a league and size all their own.
Peter
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First I want to mention that people at this club are very honest. At one point when I was there I realized that I didn’t have my locker key. I quickly went to my locker to see if everything was alright and someone called out “did you lose your key?” It had fallen off in the cinema and someone had returned it to the desk. Then, after leaving at about 10 PM and driving for 45 minutes to FKK World, I looked in my wallet I realized that I had stupidly forgotten to take my cash, over 150 Euro, out of the small safe at Paradise. My hotel was close to FKK World and I didn’t relish the idea of wasting 1 ½ hours and gas on the round trip to go retrieve my money instead of visiting the club, so I called them from FKK World. I asked if they could keep my money until the next morning so I could pick it up on the way to the airport and they said that would be no problem. The next morning I passed by and the money was waiting for me in an envelope.
The club has great facilities that don’t quite compare to those at FKK World, but are a little better than at Oase (depending on how much you value the outside area at Oase, since Paradise has no outside area) and only a little less good than at (sob!) Atlantis. The decoration is all in the style of a Turkish or Arabian palace, with large soft benches and colored pillows everywhere, including in piles on the floor. There are several luxurious showers, clean lockers, and a huge marble Turkish hammam (bath) apparently available only when you purchase a Turkish massage at extra cost. Unsurprisingly, many of the men in the club looked Turkish. The main room is gigantic, with two levels, a small swimming pool, a large bar, and a buffet with tall coffee tables to eat at. There is a cinema with a large screen and about four terraced levels of mattresses perfect for relaxing or having sex in view of everyone (there are paper towels and Kleenexes on all levels signaling that this is expected here). The movies, unfortunately, were crap. The buffet was fine. There was broiled dark meat chicken quarters, mixed vegetables, boiled potatoes, lettuce with dressing, fried vegetarian patties, fried potato pancakes, and (yuk) beef tongue.
On a Sunday night there were about 12 girls, and one of the girls told me that this is fewer than usual since Sunday is a slow night. The average level was very good. There were 2 blondes from Poland and Hungary that were beautiful and that I had in the cinema. The Polish girl (Kelly) was nice, though she definitely made me aware that I was paying for it. We kissed some, though not passionately, and at times she turned her head to avoid me. At one point she even told me that she doesn’t kiss, although she continued to do so intermittently. The Hungarian girl (Christina) was just ok. She didn’t kiss at all and I didn’t finish with her. So the attitude here, at least with the two girls I saw, was only so-so.
Assuming this day was typical, the club is not a good as FKK World or Atlantis, but it compares favorably to Oase and if you are stuck in Frankfurt without a car it is probably your best option. You can take a train from the airport to Frankfurt and then a taxi from there costs some 10 Euros. If you don’t want to bother with the train a taxi from the airport will cost 40-50 euros.
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Euro 100,
Thanks for all the additional information.
You definately should try Fani. Out of the closer to 100 WGs I've done, I have never experience such a perfect mix of GFE and porn actress behaviour!
I realize that my report perhaps was missing some details. I was there on a Tuesday evening, arriving around 10, and leaving around 2. I'm not sure if this is a slow night of the week, but I don't think I would have enjoyed it more even if it wore more girls there.
I will try Sudfass, although I don't really understand what the difference between this place and a FKK is.
I hope to read a report of your visit on the 15th!
H
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Homers,
Did Bonita have rather long hair with some curls and did she wear high, black "hooker" boots? If this is the same Bonita I was with last month, you should know she is also a "Starship Trooper" and for a mere 50Euro, she will gladly open the back gate. I enjoyed her for 1 hour and spent a good deal of time driving the Hershey Highway.
Another prime lady is Jenny. She is from Jamica and has an light brown skin. Not a facial beauty, but good English, laughs a lot and will give you a session you will not soon forget.
Bare
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Peter,
Yes, I agree that Sudfass is not really an FKK Club in the strict sense. I made the (in my opinion only slight) differences clear in my post. And Homers is correct in saying that it is not entirely obvious where the difference is.
By the way, there are more clubs in Frankfurt than the F35 that you name. There is also Napoleon on the Hanauer Landstrasse. There is the Huehnerhof in Sachsenhausen. (In both I have received competent service.) I have also tried the clubs in Dietzenbach (graduated fee structure, so that additional encounter get cheaper; but I only found two girls worht doing) and Hanau (Diwan, has only few girls, but some of them are good), which are quite close-by. And I am sure that there are other which I do not know about. The German daily "Bild" usually has plenty of ads for the clubs.
And, yes, I agree completely with you that the trip to FKKW is well worth the extra travel, because it is in a higher league than any of the clubs in Frankfurt. Only Atlantis was able to compete with it.
But give the Palace a little time. It is still very new, and it needs to get settled. I know the owner (also named Peter, by the way), and he is determined to make this work. So I will check in periodically to see what the current state of Paradise is. I expect this club to make it.
euro
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LuvumBare,
Yes, it's definately the same Bonita as you mention. Such a sweet girl. I will try her "special service" next time!
H
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I had a bad experience in Oase last Saturday. I spent about 28 minutes with a Russian girl (I checked my watch), but was asked by that girl to pay 100E and stated I used her 40 minutes. I complained to the manager. The manager ( a lady) asked me to pay 100E, otherwise, I had to leave the club. I think the manager in Oase protected girl and not the customer. Two days later at palace, a German girl spent only 5 minutes in a very rush way and left room and asked me to pay her 50 Euro. I complained to the manager (a man). After listening my complain, he asked that girl to his office to talk. I never see this girl again later in next 6 hours. I am sure she was asked to leave. What a difference!
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I'm thinking about going to Palace on May 20, however I hear that this is the last day of a trade show in Frankfurt, IFFA.
Does anyone think I would be better off going to World on this day instead in order to avoid the trade show crowd?
Thanks in advance.
RTW
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RTW,
Definitely go to World, ecspecially if the weather is nice. The grounds are much nicer and the number of girls to guys will probably be much better at World if there is a trade show going on in Frankfurt. I have been to both. Palace would be great if you don't have transportation to World, thats your only caveat.
n-joy
Carnal1
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RTW,
It depends on the time of day you plan to go. If you go around 4 pm, then Palace will be relatively empty. The late shift girls arrive aorund 5. You can then get a couple of encounters bagged before the trade show hordes arrive.
Now keep in mind that the girls also know when the trade shows are. And they will adjust their attendance accordingly. Frankfurt always has some kind of trade show, fair, conference, or something else going on. But during the high-attendance trade shows the girls come to the FKKs more often, because they know that the ratio of customers to providers will be in their favor. So it's a trade-off (pun intended).
My recommendation is to play it safe and go to World, in particular if you have all day. You can hang out at the pool, eat, drink, lounge, and occasionally engage in the activity that is our common hobby on this board.
Cheers,
Euro
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Hallo hobbyists,
After becoming addicted to Planet Happy Garden in Oedt near Dusseldorf over the last year and a half, I finally dipped my toes into the Frankfurt scene by visiting Palace on May 9, a Sunday night. I stayed at the Monopol, fine for 79 euro but my bath and shower only had tepid water- no hot- wassup wid that?
At PHG, among single visits with various new girls or old friends, I had three consecutive daily one hour full on lesbian threesomes with my two favorite blonde girls- a tall willowy and incredibly horny sexy 19 year old C-cup German beauty and an equally incredibly affectionate and sweet yet horny 23 year old vixen from Czechia. I had met on the third and final PHG night WSG poster Al Bundy who had much wisdom to impart regarding the relative merits of Palace, Oase, and World versus PHG. PHG is a favorite of his as well as of myself. I had planned to take the 69 euro train from Venlo to Frankfurt on my final day, but a German friend from PHG provided a ride and gave me a special guided automobile tour of the Rhineland, dropping me in Mainz, a short 6 euro train to Frankfurt Hbf.
Arriving in Frankfurt at 3 PM, I checked into the Monopol and walked the surrounding blocks for a while. I really wanted to go to World at the behest of Ortos, who I know from another board, while Al Bundy had suggested Oase. However, I decided to check Palace first since, if it sucked, I still had time until 11 PM or so to hop on the S-bahn and train it either to Giessen/World or Friedricksdorf/Oase and stay until 4 or 5 AM before returning to the hotel and airport Monday morning. My cabbie was an old fart German guy who told me all about his own mongering preferences- escorts, older Hispanic women who he likes to videotape.
On entering Palace at about 7 PM, I gave my 65 euro to the woman with the Tammy Faye Baker troweled- on makeup and was led into the club by a uniformed matron. The sweeping curved rows of lockers were in sharp contrast to the tight quarters of the PHG changing room. I placed all my belongings and valuables into the clothes locker, only later did I notice the tiny safe deposits for money and passport. I guess on a busier night it would be wise to use those for my money. I showered up and had a walkabout. There were maybe 10 guys wandering around and about 15 girls. I was very impressed with the layout and “newness” of it all, not to mention the bouncing boobs of the buxom providers, but the lighting made scoping out the talent a bit difficult. I perched at the rear of the bar to get a soda and was engaged by a very cute Spanish babe with long curly light brown hair. Laura from Barcelona was an inverse Jennifer Lopez look-alike, big firm yet pear- shaped c cups and a small girlish booty and belly. After some preliminary chat and kissy face and initial inspection of her 23 year old frame, it wasn’t long before she was leading me to my first true FKK room. On the way, she gave me a minitour of the club, she seemed to want to do it in the cinema but there were two guys in there only and cheesy porn so we went to the room. The session was fine- she was a passionate kisser and tasted fine, those c-cups got lots of attention. She took my phone number for a possible summer visit in NY.
After a shower, I wandered around and had some of the excellent beef goulash, potatoes, noodles, salade and beans with bread. I then repaired to one on the huge pillow filled swinging beds. It wasn’t long before I was joined by a 30ish Ukranian girl who chatted me up and rubbed my belly for 20 minutes. She wasn’t room material though, and she gave up although the young Russian on a nearby couch was. I motioned her over ready to debauch this schoolgirl but she spoke no English and blew me off after 2 minutes. I moved to another couch and soon another neked German girl was rubbing my belly and trying to recruit me. I found this a bit more relaxing than pacing the smoke filled bar at PHG, but I still love that place as well. It is easier I think to eatablish a lasting prapport at PHG, but this requires more research on my part at Palace. Soon, I was attracted to the upturned butt of a blonde on a nearby couch. I went over to talk, she was a plain looking German pro who was nice enough but not the right choice for me- why I took her to a room I don’t know but I sometimes do thing like that. No harm done. I had noticed a blonde amazon strutting around who earlier had disappeared into a room with a guy and a gal for a threesome. I decided to wait for her and when she appeared I went right over and grabbed her. She was 182 cm with perfect large c’s and a supermodel face with hair down almost to her ass. Her name was Diana from Lithuania, she is 22 and a 10 looks-wise. Service wise I would rate her a 7. She was constantly trying to sell me upgrades. As I tried to kiss her, she begged me for anal- only 50 euro more. Here I had this supermodel 10 begging me to do her in the ass- who was I to refuse? When I said OK she relaxed a bit, kissed me more deeply and we began to wrestle in front of the huge mirror. The rooms are very plush at Palace, some have CD players inside so next time I shall burn some CD’s for the girls and pound them to my favorite tunes. One thing about Diana, her face was so beautiful that I really enjoyed just watching her blow me, I had to instruct her to do it slow and sexy a couple of times, but she got the message. Soon, she was begging for the anal again, so we struggled a bit to get me in and then she just arched her back, put her face into the bed, rubbed her puss and cooed for 10 minutes while I did it. After a while she made some finishing noises and also made a bit of a mess so we stopped and went to the next door lavatory to freshen up. We rutrned to the bed to start over but after 10 minutes our 30 minutes were over but I was not ready to relinquish this goddess, so we went for a second half hour of slow BJ and multiposition boffing. She basically just lay there for most of the pounding. For 150 euro for an hour with anal it wasn’t bad. The eye candy was worth it. I wouldn’t repeat though.
I showered extra long this time, and again returned to the main harem room to relax. Another fanta, another plate of goulash spuds, and salade, a quick sauna, watching a guy and a girl play in the pool, which was very clean and inviting, and some more chats with belly- rubbing saleswomen. Some girls told me that the Friday night Eastern Party featured 70 or 80 girls and long waits for rooms, and that Saturday was much more subdued. It was getting close to 1 AM and they were still bringing out food and guys continued to arrive in dribs and drabs. I especially liked the watermelon slices. Back by the bar, there were five naked girls lounging with nothing to do, one was my Laura from Spain and her friend, a hot pornoed out Puerta Ricana was waving and pulsing her ass in my direction. I joined them on the swing to schmooze and Fanni- the porno queen pushed her natural D’s into my face and grabbed my unit and began kissing and stroking me. Laura recommended her wholeheartedly. This lasted for about 15 minutes while I massaged her chests and she got me rock hard. Couch action- yes I like this. We went to a room and had a horny sweaty half hour which included me bringing her off digitally while she sucked me and a salsa lesson.
By 2 AM, after four days of non-stop sex and travel, I decided to call it a night. I taxied back to the hotel for 9.60 and hit the free internet in the monopol to post on another site. I shall definitely return to Palace- this was a very slow night and there still was plenty that was of interest. Palace is an excellent venue for the winter time, inclement weather, or when you are in Frankfurt and pressed for time. However, I look forward to exploring FKK World and Oase in summer when the outdoor facilities.
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Just curious.
Are couples welcome in FKK clubs? Do you ever see any there?
Thanks
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At last, Beffen, welcome to the world of couch action. I am sure that, as you "pepto" your way through additional clubs like Oase and World, and make repeat visits to Palace, you will become quite adept at playing the couch-action field and you will grow to like it.
That's a really great description of Palace. The account of your experiences there really made me feel like I was back in the club myself. You really captured the spirit and feel of the place. Your comments about the food at Palace are bang on. Over two visits there I saw different food each time, so they really make an effort there both in terms of quality and variety. Palace really does put the other clubs to shame in food department.
I'm sure you will have some interesting comments to make when you add Oase and World to your FKK club portfolio.
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Beffen,
I was at Palace last Thursday and saw this lady Diana. You are right, she does have a model face. However something about her manner gave me the impression that she would try hard to ply on the extras. It is my experience that if you say no to these with this type of provider, then the "normal" session will be a real drag.
Palace has quite a few former Atlantis girl working there now. One girl told me that it is really a comfortable place for the Atlantis crowed, and that the managment really treats them well. She also said that many former Atl. girl who initially went to Oase caught a hard time from the girls who were already there. This could be true from I was at Oase two weeks ago and alot of the Atlantis girls who I saw on previous visits were nowhere to be found.
Marina (Blond, Lithuanian, top act!) was at Palace last Thursday. She has been away for awhile and it was great to have a "re-aquainting" session with this godess. She said that she may try Oase next week to see which club is better for her.
Cindy (Blond, Poland, luscious body!) was also there and as delicious as always.
Some of the girls there told me that there only real complaint about Palace is that there are not enough customers. Hard to understand since this club is the easiest to access of all the Frankfurt clubs.
Cheers all,
Dedalus