Rants and WTF are you talking about and Coronavirus!

[QUOTE=Polyamorist;2450884]The Wu-Flu will continue to kill 100-200 K people a month worldwide. Unlike smallpox, most of them will be over 70. When people learnt about smallpox, did they stop having sex? Did they stop going into work? No, they learnt to accept it as one of the risks of life, until a vaccine was developed. These days we are wusses.[/QUOTE]OK, you go first then! Hahaha!

[QUOTE=Chongmal;2450880]As far as Life Expectancy, Japan seems to outpace France by about 2 years in 2019,84 years compared to 82 years.[/QUOTE]The two oldest populations have had two different medical outcomes, and I think it can be mostly be explained by culture. Many Italians visit their ageing parents more than once a week (or live under the same roof as them). Japanese are not connected in this way. Since end of WWII, Japan's single-minded focus on rapid economic growth has eroded family ties and social connections.

[QUOTE]https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/30/world/asia/japan-lonely-deaths-the-end.html

"The extreme isolation of elderly Japanese is so common that an entire industry has emerged around it, specializing in cleaning out apartments where decomposing remains are found."
[/QUOTE][QUOTE]https://thediplomat.com/2020/05/the-trouble-with-linking-covid-19-to-japans-hikikomori/

"The number of hikikomori (social recluses) in Japan has been disputed, ranging from the governments estimate of 1.15 million for individuals aged 15-64 to estimates of 2 million by experts such as Tamaki Saito, a leading psychiatrist on the hikikomori issue. The reasons for becoming a hikikomori are also debated, but it is typically considered a culture-bound syndrome associated with Japans rigid social structure, where conformity is normalized through peer pressure and shame. Thus, social withdrawal is an involuntary escape from the perceived hostility of the outside world."[/QUOTE][QUOTE]
https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Science/Japan-s-coronavirus-response-is-flawed-but-it-works

"The Japan model also incorporates a "3 C's" concept. This requires the population to avoid closed spaces with poor ventilation; crowded places; and close-contact settings. It also builds on traditional Japanese behavior patterns and etiquette, such as wearing face masks, and little communal physical contact such as shaking hands or cheek kissing. Animated, loud conversations on packed commuter trains are considered impolite, and avoiding them minimizes infective droplet spray."[/QUOTE]

How many of you will be in the clubs today and partaking sex if something like Oase was at full capacity. Girls and guys both? Assume that Corona situation is just as it is today, still a risk.

I am not in the clubs today not only because they are shut but also because the risk is not acceptable to me. I am getting the sense that many of you don't mind being in the club today if it was open. For example, I do have at least a handful of new and existing sugar babes quite eager to see me (for my money of course) but I am staying away. I assume at least some guys around here will bang a sugar babe as they think the risk is not excessive.

[QUOTE=Polyamorist;2450884]WHO now says COVID-19 might never go away. Disturbing? Yes, but let's put this into perspective.

Smallpox used to kill 4 million people a month. Translated to today's world population that would be 16 million a month. The disease could be transmitted by kissing as well as other types of contact.

The Wu-Flu will continue to kill 100-200 K people a month worldwide. Unlike smallpox, most of them will be over 70.

When people learnt about smallpox, did they stop having sex? Did they stop going into work? No, they learnt to accept it as one of the risks of life, until a vaccine was developed.

These days we are wusses.[/QUOTE]As I kept on saying from beginning, it is at war level death rates.

[QUOTE=Chongmal;2450880]Honestly, I'm very confused by your statements on panic causing higher death rates. These are very general and obscure statements with very little if any scientific fact presented to even remotely support your hypothesis. As a non-scientist myself, I can only ask questions and hope you can answer with some facts, since you seem to draw hard conclusions.

As I understand, France and many other European nations implemented quarantines similar to what was done in much of the world. This negatively impacted economies but I'm not sure of the balance on profits vs loss of life. Also, it seems company directors, brokers, senior staff might be afforded a higher level of protection while their workers would be subjected to the daily grind and exposure to the virus, in turn possibly higher death rates in lower income groups. This is what we see in the US, although there have been a few high profile deaths from the entertainment industry. My opinion, the entertainment industry deaths from COVID seem on par with the drug and alcohol deaths. In this thought, are you stating in fact that reducing population movement and person to person contact caused an increase in COVID deaths?

I believe France and many other European nations responded with increased testing and contact tracking of people presenting with COVID symptoms..[/QUOTE]Don't be confused, it is all based on death rates, so by numbers and that is what important, to save lives. And unfortunately, due to their lack of management of the situation, France, Italy and Spain failed to do that miserably.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2450970]The two oldest populations have had two different medical outcomes, and I think it can be mostly be explained by culture. Many Italians visit their ageing parents more than once a week (or live under the same roof as them). Japanese are not connected in this way. Since end of WWII, Japan's single-minded focus on rapid economic growth has eroded family ties and social connections.[/QUOTE]Not for all, but for some, the good thing is that Japan managed well from 1945 and 1980 Japan is top, then came second in 1990's and now third after China. The result was delivered.

As for hikikomori etc. You are too intrigued by mass media, it is only minority of population and this is in fact problem for many nations too like many Italian not leaving their mama's home even at middle age partly due to economical situation as well, but I do think living same roof as parent is good thing as long as house is big enough to have privacy. Your mass media brain is in same level as Japan still have ninja and that is why Japan has such a success companies like Toyota, Honda, Sony, Omron, Panasonic, Toshiba, honestly I can keep goes on with few hundred names that are global company that is even almost big as some European nation as single mega company LOL.

Not all nations can be perfect, but China is dangerous nation with communist government. I even suspect they did this virus thing on purpose to some extent to mess up US election because Donald Trump regime cost China not just billions, but trillions of losses every single year his regime is in power in USA. I hope US will be smart enough to vote for republican even though they may find Trump annoying. Vote for his regime, not him.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2450970]The two oldest populations have had two different medical outcomes, and I think it can be mostly be explained by culture. Many Italians visit their ageing parents more than once a week (or live under the same roof as them). Japanese are not connected in this way. Since end of WWII, Japan's single-minded focus on rapid economic growth has eroded family ties and social connections.[/QUOTE]Yes, Italians, also Spanish often live with old parents. French kiss to say Hello. When international flights will start again, rather than driving to FKK, I will fly for a week end to Japan and will kiss everybody I see there, I think there will be a little problem, maybe only girls will be happy, and maybe will find a traditional geisha, I wonder if they kiss.

1 day after end of confined, prostitutes without mask were back in streets, exactly at same place than 2 months ago, like Emily and Ana who returned to home Velbert. Were always escorts under confined. Yesterday, Olga was not really free on my time, she proposed me to come to her private place in evening, but then she became less interesting. Let s see for next time as I sent her.

Comparing Western Europe and Asia don t mean anything, we are so different. Southern Europe, Spanish, Italians and some French are so different than Northern Europeans. What work in Sweden, with people not going on Easter holidays when it was not forbidden, when French thought confined was going on holidays close to the beach.

This killer virus showed a real mirror of society, for black and poor in US, like Brunswick Georgia and sleeping justice for 2 months until video on internet, well organized Germany where restaurants should open soon but with 1,5 meter distance, it will be complicated to respect in brothels and in bed. Greece and Portugal have better figures than Germany, when I would never go to these countries if I was sick and many Portuguese come to France for much higher healthcare. Africa manage not so bad and I m very happy for them, they have enough other diseases.

As a French, despite we are around 35 000 deaths for real figures with people doctors were right to let die quietly at home in their bed with their family, when too old or too weak, but I know what great and difficult job made medical staff and especially nurses who were sometimes insulted by some crazy asking them to stay away not to throw them virus. One owner asked a nurse who rent his flat, to leave. If I was Macron, I put a law during night as politics know how to do to prosecute owner and to give flat to the nurse who takes risk to save life and only with small earning at the end of the month. I would also put a night law about french Sanofi. From wherever they got money for research, but production stay in France without allowance to be sent to US who already paid more expensive to have masks before others. When one here, who have among most clever writings, wrote about same rights for everybody, just a dream, I m a dreamer, I need to dream, but I don t believe anymore about this. Virus showed so well how it killed and will keep on much more poor than rich. US who are down under with virus when not respecting confined, think they deserve vaccine before the others in the world, like for masks when Trump woke up on March. But Sanofi is French and in France and they will have a big problem with French people. When Japan is afraid of China, French are not afraid of US nor China. But I think French would thank Germany, Switzerland, Luxemburg and Austria for 181 beds, I think none moved when they were a bit better died abroad, to free and never miss beds for worst cases. With their help, never missed beds.

[QUOTE=Sebastiane;2450855]So, currently, the situation is, I think:

1. Austria -- FKKs might open on 1st July.

2. Switzerland -- on Aug. 31st?

3. Germany?

Also, when will the EU open up travel to it for non-essential purposes (currently EU citizens can come for some specific reasons only; tourism is not one of these yet![/QUOTE]I think main point is not when they will open. The most important thing is when we will have a service more similar to what we had before lockdown. What pleasure we will find in having a pretty girl with her face covered or if she provides us a HJ with gloves? Everything is very risky now if we take the virus at home. We have to wait for the vaccine or until the virus loses power or spreads very sporadically.

I caught athlete's foot in a club once. I then find out they don't have Lotramin Ultra in Germany. But they have terbenefine so that was about one level weaker than the butenefine ingredient in Lotramin Ultra. But they don't have pseudaphedrine (best treatment for respiratory infections of nose congestion) on the Continent. Closest place that is available in London. But I really don't know how Germans and others on Continental Europe get by without Sudafed. I think with enough Kleenex and Sudafed pretty much any cold or flu is bearable. But then some Zithromax to prevent bacterial infections. It could be the cold humid climate is making it worse for them as it is in New York City.

[QUOTE=MysticalGun;2450411]The virus is still raging over Europe and the world, and even though in some places is clearly slowing down we don't really know when all this will be over. Maybe next year with the right vaccine, maybe in summer if the virus will mutate in a less dangerous flu, or maybe it's something that will go on for years. Fact is that we live in a diffent world now, and we don't know yet the whole impact that it will have in our lives.

I say that because in these days of quarantine I have different thoughts.

I miss my mongering trips, every day I recall my nights in my favourite red lights districts and how exciting was spending the night going through all the brothels. I really miss those times and I realize they were part of my freedom. But then I think back on how it worked: of course I took precautions, but still it was me walking naked in dirty rooms, not thinking where I put my clothes, if the bed was clean (most of the times low and purple lights don't let you see that), and what happened just before me to the girl I was touching. And there are those times when you loose control and start to lick and touch where you shouldn't.

So. Will I be able to do that again when all will be open? Or the fear is going to stop me, making me unable to enjoy a beautiful girl?

Fun sex always comes with some recklessness, and even if most of the brothels will be able to reopen again (nad I doubt that), fun won't be like before I fear.[/QUOTE]

[URL]https://www.wz.de/nrw/quarantaene-vorschrift-fuer-nrw-rueckkehrer-aufgehoben_aid-51111739[/URL]

If you are from an EU country or a few neighbouring countries, there will be no need to go into quarantine if you enter [B]NRW[/B]. Maybe other states will follow suit.

That's another obstacle down, still some more to go before I can return and I can't see any clubs opening before August 31 yet.

[QUOTE=Downandup;2451082][URL]https://www.wz.de/nrw/quarantaene-vorschrift-fuer-nrw-rueckkehrer-aufgehoben_aid-51111739[/URL]

If you are from an EU country or a few neighbouring countries, there will be no need to go into quarantine if you enter [B]NRW[/B]. Maybe other states will follow suit.

That's another obstacle down, still some more to go before I can return and I can't see any clubs opening before August 31 yet.[/QUOTE]I have had to push my trip back to November, hopefully everything would be opened back up by then. My only worry is the cold. I am visiting Cologne.

[quote]I caught athlete's foot in a club once. I then find out they don't have Lotramin Ultra in Germany. But they have terbenefine so that was about one level weaker than the butenefine ingredient in Lotramin Ultra. But they don't have pseudaphedrine (best treatment for respiratory infections of nose congestion) on the Continent. Closest place that is available in London. But I really don't know how Germans and others on Continental Europe get by without Sudafed. I think with enough Kleenex and Sudafed pretty much any cold or flu is bearable. But then some Zithromax to prevent bacterial infections. It could be the cold humid climate is making it worse for them as it is in New York City.[/quote]Answer:

Sorry I am 60+, and never used any of those medicine, in fact I took 0 medicine in the last 5 years. Most of the medicine are also a kind of poison with a lot of side effects if you live a healthy life, I am 183 high, 83 kilos, no smoker, very moderate drinker you don t need to take medicine except you get a bad disease.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2451147]Answer:

Sorry I am 60+, and never used any of those medicine, in fact I took 0 medicine in the last 5 years. Most of the medicine are also a kind of poison with a lot of side effects if you live a healthy life, I am 183 high, 83 kilos, no smoker, very moderate drinker you don t need to take medicine except you get a bad disease.[/QUOTE]This is the odd thing that I have been mongering for over 20 years, and I never had any STD, it still is mystery to me especially in FKK where girls fuck about minimum 3 different guys per day and for some girls about 10 different guys per day. Given the environment, it is quite astonishing how FKK is proven to be hygienic as it can be, I do not read or hear some monger got some STD in FKK either, but I hear from some of my friends who got std from some girls they met in club (normal disco) or in normal bar. I think platform wise, FKK and escort are even safer platform than normal clubs or normal bars in general, girls or management are more conscious for these things and take care of it accordingly, which result in our safer sex, but I still say no to condom BJ and only accept BBBJ and thankfully BBBJ is still there if you want it even after the new law.

For sure, guys will shout everywhere they got HIV in RTC where girls are fucked AO by 10 guys per day, or they got chlamydia and brought back at home to wife. Wasn't new law also to protect German wives, but I think Germany failed for this, RTC were still working until virus, some guys even asking and proposing to pay very expensive for AO in normal clubs. I'm pretty sure most of guys will have no problem to bring back killer virus at home, maybe a way for getting rid of old wife, to dream to live with a beloved WG.

This is the odd thing that I have been mongering for over 20 years, and I never had any STD, it still is mystery to me especially in FKK where girls fuck about minimum 3 different guys per day and for some girls about 10 different guys per day. Given the environment, it is quite astonishing how FKK is proven to be hygienic as it can be, I do not read or hear some monger got some STD in FKK either, but I hear from some of my friends who got std from some girls they met in club (normal disco) or in normal bar. I think platform wise, FKK and escort are even safer platform than normal clubs or normal bars in general, girls or management are more conscious for these things and take care of it accordingly, which result in our safer sex, but I still say no to condom BJ and only accept BBBJ and thankfully BBBJ is still there if you want it even after the new law.

Reply: I think like me you know a lot of girls very well, it is a legend to think that the management is taking care of the health of the girls (in fact there is no health control), except in Sakura where there is a doctor coming every week and the girls are free to go to control or not. All the girls know that some of the girls are sick. If you don t sex without condom, if you have no skin problem in your mouth, or dick the risk to get sick is very low by licking or BBBJ. Probably like me you are also very selective by choosing the girls that is also reducing the risk.

Of course, many guys are catching disease with prostitutes but they will mostly not advertise about it.