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Zeybek, German women are probably the least racist women you will meet on the planet. In fact German men are also the least prejudiced European males I have encountered. It is not uncommon in most cosmopolitan Western German cities to see mixed couples. There are nearly ten million non-German residents in this country so being a foreigner is not neccesarily a bad thing. In fact the first time I visited Germany, I found that Germans were extremely tolerant and friendly, and that a lot of the stories and warnings that said the majority of Germans were xenophobic and bigoted were not true. To be realistic, there are people like that in Germany but then again you will meet people like that everywhere. There are regions in Eastern Germany particularly in remote areas where there is a lot of xenophobia but in the Western half of the country or in big cities like Berlin and Dresden this won't be a problem. Many Germans have an eye for all things exotic so being exotic looking or non-European is not a bad thing at all in Germany, in fact, I know a few friends there who say it might even be an advantage. I remember there was this one swinger club near the Dutch German border where a group of black men entered and you should have seen the reaction of the German women in the club. The women chased this group like fans chasing a boy band. The German ladies were literally fighting each other to get a chance with the group of black men. I also remember a German bank commercial that featured a German woman and a black man in a romantic embrace. I still have yet to see such progressive advertising by such a large financial institution in North America.

I visited the Reepbahn in Hamburg few times , on my own and with business colleagues. As I passed the SW near the police station in front of the Burger King, the girls sollicited aggressively anybody who is caucasian looking, no matter what age. I happen to be sort of more Mediterranean looking. I noticed the girls ignored me and anybody who is not caucasian looking. Does anybody has had such experience to share. I read threads that that these girls are to be avoided anyway.

I am no expert but i would say that in germany the girls tend to not like the turks. not all say this and i never ask but i hear it so this could be why.

The Reeperbahn in Hamburg is a ripoff. As for the attitude that some German prostitutes have towards Turkish males, that can get complicated. There have been some incidents where Turkish customers have beaten up or threatened a prostitute so thaty might make them more defensive. However, German women can actually be quite fond of foreign men because there was a survey saying that most German women found that most German men couldn't satisfy them. (I.e. if you're African American you will get a lot of pussy in Germany, there was even a book written about the German female infatuation with black men written by some big American researcher) So foreigners can indeed do very well with the local German women. If you go to FKK clubs in the southern regions of Germany most of the women are not even German and in fact many Turkish women work in these clubs. FKK clubs mostly hire quality talent not the trash you see in Hamburg's Reeperbahn. If you see German prostitutes biased against Turkish customers the vice versa scenario plays it self out with Turkish female prostitutes. Turkish women will give preferential treatment to Turkish men or other Eastern looking guys. So the favortism thing turns tables in clubs with many Turkish women. Turkish women prefer Eastern guys and treat them better than white men because they are generally more comfortable with them. In general, the Turkish women at FKK clubs will give a good session and treat all clients well but as far as getting extras( like their phone number or meeting them for date outside the club ) only Turkish guys or other Eastern guy will get those. A lot of the Turkish girls will reveal more personal information with me that they would never share with German guys. IMHO, Turkish women in Germany are far more beautiful than German women. I've gotten the phone numbers of the Turkish working ladies, went on dates with some of them, one even asked me if I was married because she was looking for a husband and thought I was a good candidate. Turkish women in Germany are very Western yet they don't date Western guys very often and tend to stick with their own or with other Easterners. You will often hear about Turkish males married to German women but German men married to Turkish women is far less frequent. I've gotten very friendly with a lot of the Turkish ladies and they gotten a lot more personal with me than with white customers. In fact I asked a German friend about finding out about a particular girl who is Turkish who used to work at club I frequented. I wanted to know where she currently worked and this guy couldn't get the information from her friend who is also Turkish. I went to the place myself and the this lady gave me the information that she refused to give to my German friend. So the door swings both ways, and anyway its no big loss if some German hookers are bitches because you can find plenty of regular German women(every female coworker of mine in Frankfurt wanted to fuck me and I got sexually harassed all the time by these German ladies), and the Turkish women in Germany are far more fun, as well as the Eastern European ladies. So its no big loss if some street hookers in Hamburg ignored you because there are better things elsewhere.

CBGB

Thanks for that Great Post:

Actually I was never refused, as a matter of fact I have never been to Germany. I am planning to goal, and one of the things that I prefer to check out is the "Turkish" women in Germany. I have met a lot of Turkish girls in Turkey who were visiting from Germany and they were really uninhibited, and willing to party like crazy. But I know they do usually stick to the Turks. German women are great and all but just doesn't do it for me.

I had remembered reading from earlier posts (see I do read before I post) where it was mentioned you might have problems if you are a Turk. But now I am pretty confident that will not be an issue.

I have seen hundreds of German women, drop dead gorgeous 10s come to Turkey in their summer vacations to hook up with these bus driver/waiter/student Turkish guys who are butt ugly. I wondered to myself what these girls were thinking...but I guess the German guys don't cut it anymore :) Go to Turkey one summer, places like Bodrum, or Alanya and check it out for yourself. I'ts amazing.

But thanks for all the tips. I will have lotsa funn in the Fkks :)

My experience with Turkish dudes in the clubs is that they are rather loud, rude, and obnoxious even in the locker where just men are changing and getting ready to go party.

When they are not present, the atmosphere is more dignified and more upperclass in manner where everyone is respectful of everyone elses space and more polite with each other.

I can understand why they may not be allowed in certain clubs. I seem to see a lot of them at the train station, red light places like the Bandhahm in D-dorf.

As far as the girls preference, I would think they prefer those little metal things that go jingle, jangle, jingle. In other words, coins. I saw a guy in Atlantis wearing a prosthesis for his leg, below the knee. Now I would never do a girl with an artificial leg, but I know the girls will take care of him as long as he can cover the charges.

Just my 2 cents.

NB

NB, you are right to a point, money talks and everything walks in the FKK clubs. However, it is often hard to tell if a person is Turkish by how they look like. I used to have a neighbor back in New York who had Blonde hair and green Irish eyes and looked like he was an Irish guy straight out of Dorchester Boston. But guess what? He was Turkish. Some Turks are light skinned and white looking and others are darker in appearance. Most people assume a Turk has brown or olive skin and dark hair but there are many who could easily pass for a European. I one time told a friend that when I was visiting Holland, the local blondes were really friendly, he told me that there was a good chance that those blondes were probably white Turks. So in essence many Turkish people have different looks.

Zeybek, that is some funny shit that those Turkish guys hooked up with German 10s. I am wondering, are they darker skinned Turks that hooked up with these German chics? I knew an Indian guy who went to Germany who hooked up with a lot of German women because they thought he was black. I know that a lot of German women dig darker looking guys because they're exotic in the eyes of German women.

Viva la difference!



NB

Zeybek, your observation about regular Turkish guys hooking up with some hot German women exposes a difference in attitude between North American and European ladies that I have noticed. Those female German tourists overlook the fact that those Turkish guys are just regular average joes in average jobs. I can parallel this behavior with that of American women in a resort area in Mexico. In many ways this analogy holds true, many Mexicans migrate to the US and many Turks migrate to Germany. Both locations are respectively popular vacation spots. One time, when I was on vacation in Mexico near the hotel pool I happened to listen to a conversation between a group of American females. They were in a very spirited discussion about the local Mexican males and the tone of the conversation was very negative. Their attitude was one that was extremely condescending towards the local males. They kept complaining about how annoying the Mexican guys were and how they were annoyed that the local guys kept trying to hook up with them and get friendly. One lady said, "These guys don't speak English and have lame jobs like waitering and cleaning the rooms." This is the attitude that many American woman have is that they value the dollar and the other superficial aspects of a man. This is a sharp contrast compared to German females in Turkey who are eager to meet local guys regardless of their socioeconomic status. Even the insinuation that you say these guys are "butt ugly" might not be valid in the eyes of these German female tourists. Well maybe to these German women the look of the local guys are exotic to them. And the fact that they are hooking up with these guys whether they are bus drivers or waiters, shows they aren't so obsessed with money. I am currently in Australia and the attitude of the local Australian women is comparable to that of German ladies being that they are very open minded and unpretentious in comparison to North American women.

Hi Friends:

Actually when I said my "butt-ugly" bretheren were making like bandits with some fiiine german ass, I wasn't being condescending to them. I am a Turk myself (half/half), but I am white. These guys were DARK. It's clear to me that you will have better chance with the Nordic women if you are DARK. Actually, it's funny, one of the guys I met at a resort in Bodrum was a hotel photographer. This guy would take your picture for like $5 or something. I was chatting with him about the European Ass. Now mind you, this guy was from the village, and he was decent looking.

So he whips out his private album and shows me some of the poses.....Wow!!! And these poses were him and the ladies, and let me tell you, I had respect for this guy. He told me how places like SIDE in southern Turkey (close to Antalya) where German women come by BUSLOADS to hook up with sex crazed Turkish guys. You have to understand, your typical Turkish guy is sexually depraved in Turkey. So when a foreign woman comes along she is like Gold. Turkish girls put out too, but you really really have to work it. Even if you are a Turk. So most Turks will go for the best bang for the buck. No pun intended. And like I said, these guys are simple, often times poor, dark Turkish guys who really screw these girls senseless. I made a joke to one of the waiters in the resort in Bodrum and his response was "It's not our fault if all the German guys are gay or can't get it up?" (Actually more like German men are probably not as depraved sexually as Turkish men). go figure.

I agree about the German or European women's attitude versus American women: I find American women to be the most pampered, most shallow, and most unintelligent example of the female species...(oooh, a little bitterness perhaps ha ?) European women are very good to hook up with.

You also have to realize, when all these northern european women descend on these Aegean or Meditarrenean countries like Turkey, Greece, Italy, they are looking to get some major ass. That's another difference: European women are far more advanced with their sexuality than American women. Even the *****s are hideous in America. You should see what some of these paid ladies are charging: The way they look, they should be paying the guys. But that's my 2 cents.

If you guys want some major places to hit in Turkey to have fun, let me know.

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The Turkish people are soooooooooooo superior.

NB, ??????

I'm off to either the PHG or Wildenrath tomorrow night and my question is this. I'm looking for a couple of 1 hour, 75 Euro sessions just for something different. What's the score with these sessions? If you pop within 20 minutes is that it? Or if you can manage it 3 times in an hour is that ok? Or does it just vary from place to place and girl to girl? I'll post up my results in any case. I would have been at PHG last week but I got caught in a snowstorm, got hopelessly lost and ended up going home for a wank!

If you pay for an hour at PHG you will get an hour, anyhow these girls aren't into rushing you like the American *****s so you won't have problems. These FKK clubs are very customer service oriented, so if a girl gives you any attitude you should complain to the management, they take this stuff very SERIOUSLY, and I have heard of girls being fined by the club or even fired if they have a habit of being bitchy with customers. The German clubs are nothing like the Nevada brothels where they treat customers like dirt even after all the money they spend. This problem however is rare in the FKK clubs located in the Ruhr which depend upon regular customers for their revenue. If you go to the bigger clubs in Frankfurt customer service will be a hit and miss.