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Nibu
Believe it or not it the immigration authorities in Colombia are very difficult. Very surprising considering no one wants to go there.
US citizens can enter and receive a 60-day tourist visa at the point of entry. This can be extended twice for a further 30 days each time.
The maximum stay on a tourist visa is 120 days in any year (not calandar year).
Take care
LatinTraveller
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by LatinTraveller
[i]Nibu
The maximum stay on a tourist visa is 120 days in any year (not calandar year).
LatinTraveller [/i][/QUOTE]
120 days in Colombia is a long time, it's like almost half a year. The truth is that no Americans wants to go to Colombia because it's not cool right now. So 120 days is enough. I was in Colombia when Patrana was prez and before (six visits) and it wasn't so dangerous and stayed more than 60 days. I got an extension really easiiy at the DOS HXQ in Bogota and probably could have extended my visa at no cost for life if I wanted.
The problem in Colombia is not overstaying your visa, but figuring out the places to go where you won't have any problems, like Cartagena (relatively safe) and maybe a few other places if you are cool, speak Spanish and don't stand out as a gringo.
In short, Colombia has truly great chicas but right now it's NOT where you should be practicing the hobby. Like Cuba it has great potential but not worth the hassle.
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Nibu...now I know where you get some of your freaky ideas on the world...must be this Icky bastard. Just don't believe everything you read...isn't that HIS motto?
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Nibu Raphael
[i]Check out the dec. 11 headlines of www.davidicke.com some damn interesting stuff on Columbia and the number 1 Latin Nation pissed off at The Us: Argentina, Check it out,NIBU R... [/i][/QUOTE]
Nibu
I went to this site and didn't see anything about Colombia or Argentina. It was a site where someone was trying to sell a book about 9/11, suggesting it was some sort of conspiracy involving the CIA or something.
I live in NYC, a few blocks from the World Trade Center, saw both the first and second plane hit, and this idea of a JFK conspiracy theory seems totally alien to me, like the net reports that all the jews in NYC were told not to go to work at the World Trade Center that day. The fact is that I knew many jews that did go to work and were killed in the attack.
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Guys,
IMHO most americans (and many Europeans aswell)fool themselves as they think Argie girls REALY like em....it's ONLY the $$$ guys.
Come on!! Everybody with some common sens knows that Argentinians always are stock up people. They realy like Spain and Italy as many Argies come from those countries.
They intens hate US culture and lifestyle.
I for my part should ONLY go to Argieland for a fuck & a suck....nothing more notjing less.
Pretty women...true...but not suitleble for life in the US or even most Northern European countires.
Unless your last name is 'Van Oranje" and are the Crownprince of The Netherlands;-)
My guess to find better wife material would be: Brasil (huge numbers and broad range of looks and relatively safe and cheap),Peru and maybe (if you realy like traditional girls) Central America Except Costa Rica...;-)
regards,
Johan.
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anyone know of them marrige agencies in columbia... what there about and how it works.. please post or e-mail: trojanman8IIIIID@hotmail.com
see you in the trenches
trojanman
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hey guys I would like to get a apt for a week in cartegena and plan on dipping my transfer plane from bogata on feb 25 so hows the weather in colo oh yeah whats the flight time bog---to cart
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Viagringo.......
50 minutes from Bogota to Cartagena. The weather will be hot, humid and very windy, not the best time of the year to be on the coast. I'm not aware of weekly apartment rentals that I'd go anywhere near.
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hi Trojanman,
this MIGHT be a usefull link;it's a latin board.
http://planet-love.com/wwwboard/latin/
BUT (there's always a but...) do NOT mention anything about your hobby or *****mongering in general. THEY (the moderator there "patrick",and some other ladidadida assholes) will CRUCIFY you!!!!:-( Besides that "Patrick" himself is an agencie-owner...so you might ask yourself about the legitemy of that forum full of asskissers to the moderator:-(
From what I know (and I have been looking for a colombiana also for nearly one year) the situation right NOW is NOT too good.
Some cities are MERE warzones.(despite what some guys want to tell you). Medellin is RIGHT OFF anyway. Cali is getting more and more dangerous. Even Bogota and Cartagena are no longer "guerilla" free-zones:-(
IF you do NOT speak GOOD spanish and have NO clue what colombia is about: STAY AWAY!!!!
Don't make the mistake which some of those guys there did) to fall in love with "eye-candy";-) Wadde ye want....the guy is 45 and the girl is 23...that's just asking for it....! Don't believe all that crap about agedifferences from 15-20 or more years. It's BULLSHIT! I should stick to 10-15 years at the most....more is just pushing the envelope here.
Some guys are just there to Flame others. From some you CAN get usefull information. Some of them are just *****mongers like ourselves but are afraid to admit it......!!
However they also have an extended list with agencies.
BE CAREFULL as most of those *&^%(bags just try to RIP you off your $$$$,€€€ or whatever money you use. Most women are seldomly screened regarding their past/background:-(
The agencies who ONLY just sell adresses are for 98% fakes. Most adresses are false,not valid anymore or simply just made up!!
besides that in some cities (especialy CALI!!) many goodlooking younger girls (-28) are just PLAYERS who are in for free rides from Gringos;-)
Untill you are away she "loves" you and wants to marry you. The day after you fly back home she's probably "in love" with another gringo......;-)In BOgota you'll find your highly educated sofisticated latina. Which means: housemaids 5 x a week....beauty parlors 2 X a week....party-ing x time a week....shopping in expensive clothing shops x times a month (from your $$$ ofcourse) All these things MIGHT just be afordable for a middle class latin family in Colombia.....BUT back home (in USA or Europe) those things are WAYYYYY out of reach (too expensive)for most guys!!
Most of these girls know DAMN well what they want....and it isn't mister "average" who makes a normal wages!!! Trust me...in the end it all comes down on HOW MUCH YOU MAKE and WHAT STATUS you have (desk job...nice house...nice car..etc.etc.).
From all SA women I know...Colombians are the prettiest...but aLSO the most demanding ones....!!As soon as you start bringing up subjects like "working"....pre-nup"....or something like that,be ready to get some serous backfire from most of those women:-(
If you realy want to "walk this path" you'll need: patience,money,luck and a huge amount of knowledge of human caracter (and knowing yourself).
Some guys that I personaly know of went down there a zillion times over 5-8 years,spend thousands of $$$$ and are STILL empty handed!!
If you want more info mail me at:
Johan_nl@eudoramail.com
BUYER BEWARE!
Good luck.
My 2 € cents.
Johan.
PS: personaly I would AVOID Colombia for a SERIOUS partner. But that's MHO.
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Hi Trojanman,
here's also another usefull LIST that migt help.
But also here do NOT mention anything about *****s.....:-(
http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/CGI/wa.exe?SUBED1=latin-women-l
search for the "latin-women-list"
But I tell ye it''s BORING like hell:-(
Johan.
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I found a apt late feb early march through esalance so any one a aound holla let me so i like a bit of danger 9//11 changed my attitude about things. columbia has some pretty women to me its worth the risk, johan you sure your not going
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Happy Newyear you mongers!!!!!!
Keep fucking those sluts,ho's,party-girls were-ever you are!!!:-)
Vagringo:
Arrangments are made for me in Brasil. I can't back out now. (ticket is paid...etc)Anyway all those GREAT women you can also see (and fuck!) in Brasil....BUT WITHOUT ALL THE DANGER!!!!!;-)
sO WHY ALL THE HUSSLE???
Colombia is slipping into more and more violence. Anyone who watches the news on Colombia regarding that has to agree with me on that.
Anyone who goes there JUST for pussy is (IMHO) totaly crazy!Sure Colombianitas are one of the prettiest pussies in the world,but that's not a reason to get shot,get killed,get kidnapped or get rocket-mortared at!!
Like I said before: there are MORE alternatives. Less dangerous and even cheaper as well. btw in other SA countries (CR,Panama,Brasil and even in peru) there are pretty Colombian hookers:-)
From what I know from my buddy Dieter (who is right now in Moldova) Frankfurt (Germany) is crowed with Colombian hookers!!
But anyone who still can't resist and wants to go there:
GOOD LUCK!!
Johan.
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Thanks for the info guys... ill keep you posted
see you in the trenches
TrojanMan
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Yesterday, crime statistics for the year 2002 in Colombia were published.
Numbers are basically flat year on year compared to 2001, with 28.000 registered cases of murder and 2.800 kidnappings last year.
The murder rate per capita is 80 times higher than, for example, in Germany, and it is 8 times higher than the risk of being killed in a traffic accident in Germany.
A post below comments that according to (US?) news things are getting worse in Colombia. Colombian Newspapers rather suggest that the situation is improving, at least psychologically. The statistics seem to say that truth is in the middle, and safety is unchanged compared to the year before.
This info was gathered from the online edition of newspaper "El Pais" in Cali, sorry I don't provide a link because I can't seem to find a way of linking older articles.
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I second the piece below by johan007, with the only difference that I don't think Colombian women are any worse or better. They are women, period. Women, like men, are out to get the best deal. Women may love a man, but they may also love another if it suits them, just like we men may fuck a woman today and still want to fuck another tomorrow. There is no such thing as THE ideal country for serious relationships. There is no such thing as THE serious woman.
Men should realize the problem is not finding a good-looking, sensual girl who is at the same time nice and affectionate and willing to marry you. Given the right country, that's easy enough.
The real problem is, once you've brought the head of hair from pussy land into this male-drooling, consumer paradise of ours, how to you keep her contented enough (i.e. shell out 100-dollar bills quickly enough) so that she doesn't :
1) bolt as soon as she has her permanent residence permit,
2) go whoring after richer or younger men
3) divorce you, sue you for alimony, ruin you for life
4) pull all the nasty tricks a married woman can get away with nowadays, which is pretty much anything at all.
Believe me, if the marriage and divorce laws of the fifties were still in force, I would have married one of those beauties long ago (whether from Colombia or from elsewhere). As things are, I regard it as a recipe for social and financial suicide.