shooter enjoying the reports a great deal
Please keep them coming and all the best to the Accountant when you see him next
Biz
A good experience in a non GF hotel
Since most relate mostly negative experiences about their hotel stays, I'll go against the flow and tell of a very good one that happened to me in Bangkok last year. I had made a 2 days stopover in BKK before going to Cambodia and stayed at the holiday inn in silom. I usually keep my stuff in the safe or in the hotel safe and some spare cash hidden away in the room in various locations, in this case it may have been in an envelope stuck to the bottom of a drawer or stashed in the bkk yellow pages.
Anyway the stay was short and hassle free -except there's a joiner's fee after 10 pm, which can be circumvented when the girl you take looks ok enough to pass for your legit wife, like the secretary I'd pulled that night from the beergarten.
So a couple days later I land in PP, check my mail and there was a message from the hotel assistant manager asking if I hadn't forgotten anything in the room as they had found, read this, cash money. I replied that indeed, I had forgotten to retrieve my stash (I hadn't even noticed it yet), but I'd totally forgotten about it, the remaining change from 500 euros playmoney, thus somewhere between 15 and 20k bath... he quoted me something like 17 or 18k and change, found by a cleaning lady and duly reported upon. As I'd booked online they had my email and contacted me asap. I didn't stay there again (ungrateful SOB that I am) but picked it up a few weeks later on my way out of asia. ID thoroughly checked, a receipt signed for and a 500 bath tip to the cleaning lady, the least I could do.
Another great reading - "Private dancer"
Guys,
I am sure this is no secret to most of you big time Thai mongerers, but the aforementioned book is simply fantastic, a great eye opener and gives great insight into the circumstances and mindset of go-go bar girls and us farangs. As it says on the book's jacket (a bit cheesy on the jacket but having read it it is true): this reading should be made compulsory to every westerner setting foot in thailand. A classic.
Can't remember the name of the author (Stephen something).
Cheers
OTH is right - you were very lucky in whom you met
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]Sorry. But, you're a visitor and just happened to luck out and find a very rare commodity.
I live here and am with Thai women every day, most of whom have PhDs and even they aren't all that bright. My boss has a PhD from UC Berkeley and is a moron. As a professor, I deal with Thai university students all the time and therefore can speak with great authority about the lack of intelligence of Thais. If the best and brightest aren't all that intelligent, what do you think the chances are that some uneducated bargirl has any brains at all? After 11 years of teaching, my general opinion of Thais is that they aren't very smart. In recent studies, they've found that the average 15 y.o. Thai ranks between 17 and 20 percentiles below a comparable teenager in the West in intelligence tests.
While there are always exceptions, most Farang working here, especially teachers have a rather pessimistic outlook for the future of the country based on experiences with Thai students and working with Thais.
Your couple of visits and your very atypical experience doesn't qualify you to pass judgement on my opinion which is based on in depth and daily experience. I suggest that if you spent any length of time talking with a wide variety of even just Thai girls in P4P, you'd find that they are mind-numbingly boring beyond belief. I'm not saying that Thai girls from any walk of life aren't pleaseant to be around. They are great to be with and certainly far more pleasant that most Western women. But, the notion of actually carrying on anything remotely approaching an intelligent conversation with the vast majority of Thai women is just laughable. I find that a lot of Farang who live here, especially those unfortunates who have hooked up with a former BG delude themselves into thinking that their mates are "salts of the earth" and have "street smarts" which they equate with intelligence. What it is in reality is a huge compromise as well as a dumbing-down of the Farangs themselves, especially those that have exiled themselves to some bum-fuck village upcountry.
While I have intelligent students in every class who are equal to anything one would encounter in the West, they tend to have been educated in International schools and therefore are outside the norm.
Products of any level of the Thai education system, including bargirls aren't capable of or interested in much in-depth thought. I stand by my opinion. Enjoy their company. But, don't go looking to discuss anything worthwhile with them.[/QUOTE]
I am also in the Thai university system in an extremely highly rated program and agree with the conclusions expressed by OTH. The IQ testing at age 15 places the average Thai at 89-92 points, where the range in the western countries is 100-110.
Combine this with a lack of real world experience from other cultures and the severe burden Thai society places on people at all points in the social hierarchy, and it is hard to find many people with balanced views of the outside world. Even those from International schools and high school educations from abroad are hard-pressed to push through problem solving. The absence of creative thought is a whole other thing.
Don't get me wrong, there are some really smart kids in my classes and they have all had to do well on international standardized tests for admission. There are some great young minds in staring back at me in each of my classes, but there is something missing from the makeup. Intellectual curiosity is pretty well absent, as is analytical rigour.
Cleverness is not an admired quality in this society and reading is not practiced (the Bangkok newspaper last year reported that the average Thai reads 4 lines of text per day). Reading is not part of the culture, but Thais watch more hours of television each week than any other people in the world. The Philippines is number two, and in both countries the shows are goofy game shows, melodramas (mostly about infidelity and female rivaly) and dumbed-down movies like ghost stories and gore.
There is no place like this place, any place. And the girls in the P4P world are those with the worst educations and the least opportunity. You were lucky to find an intelligent conversation in the English language - you would have trouble repeating that some days in the faculty lounge at my high ranking university.