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Redway Site
[QUOTE=Blue Mango; 1413139]Gentlemen,
Can anyone give me the address for Redway?
I plan to head there this afternoon.
Anyone willing to come along?[/QUOTE]Here's the site where you'll find all the information.
[url]http://www.redway.com.br/[/url]
Read the posts that were written a couple of days (not more than a week) and you'll a fine description and the way to get there.
Have fun
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[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto; 1413072]Look at the board.
[url]www.forumds.com.br[/url]
They are the " creme de la creme " (sorry SG if I wrote the words in Frech wrong)!
ABG[/QUOTE]Very good ABG. The only thing missing is l'accent grave on the 'e': crème de la crème.
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[QUOTE=Sui Generis; 1413187]Here's the site where you'll find all the information.
[url]http://www.redway.com.br/[/url]
Read the posts that were written a couple of days (not more than a week) and you'll a fine description and the way to get there.
Have fun[/QUOTE]I got there. Looks like the good ones have left for the day. Any recommendations?
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Mario de Andrade
[QUOTE=Sui Generis;1413185]ABG, it is even more than 'bed grammar'! It is a slight deviation from MáRio de Andrade famous 1927 essay entitled Amar, verbo intransitivo. It is Amar, verbo TRANSA(r)tivo. :)[/QUOTE]SG I forgot that I am dealing with a cultured man!
SG knows brasilian literature better than the vast majority of the brasilians.
Mario de Andrade was the greatest expoent of the " Semana the Arte Moderna " in 1922, a movement that startet the modernismo, a totally new concep of art, influenced in brasilian literature, architecture, music and dance! Influenced the brasilian arts during the whole XX century.
Even the famous " garota de Ipanema" was written in "bossa nova" rithim has his roots on the "modernismo" mouvement.
Vinícius de Moraes , the father of bossa nova , was first a poet very much inspirated in Mario de Andrade´s works.
Amar, verbo intransitivo is one of his great essays;" transa (are) tivo" is a neologism of your own creation!
Hope I´ve added some more information abouth this issue.
Have fun!
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Variety
[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto; 1413070]You're absolutly right S. G. !
Although Rio de Janeiro is the paradise of liberal mulatas, safadas, love to do anal and "leitinho na bokinha" (CIM) and;
Competing very close is Salvador Bahia, I had marvelous experiences there when I was a youngster.
But it is in São Paulo that you have the most proeminent variety of beautifull ladies!
If you want a real sexy mulata with a tipical "favela" slang and love " bailes funk " do go Rio.
If you want a ebony bahiana sex machine dancing like mad on a "trio elétrico" go to Salvador.
But if you're loking for a more classy GDP, São Paulo is numero uno!
Have fun!
ABG[/QUOTE]
I agree with both of you.
However, we should say that Brazil in general offers the best possible variety to mongers.
Enjoy
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[QUOTE=Blue Mango;1413197]I got there. Looks like the good ones have left for the day. Any recommendations?[/QUOTE]I know that I am swimming against the current in this thread but the best way to find a very good looking GDP (educated, funny, clean) is to deal with free-lancers.
Usually ClubModel and KissClass are reliable. To each his own.
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CLub Model / Kiss Class
[QUOTE=Sui Generis; 1413608]I know that I am swimming against the current in this thread but the best way to find a very good looking GDP (educated, funny, clean) is to deal with free-lancers.
Usually ClubModel and KissClass are reliable. To each his own.[/QUOTE]
Ok SG but carefull, a lot of photoshop normally is done on the pictures displayed.
Unless you are fluent in Porto you have a great chance do go into a bait and swich.
Better go to some good clínica or privée and see your GDP alive!
First Test Drive your girl there and, if you liked her, invite her to your hotel.
Normally when I take friends with me I tell MMe Vaní, she is open for these deals. But other places will do it so also.
Have fun!
ABG
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[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto; 1413838]Ok SG but carefull, a lot of photoshop normally is done on the pictures displayed.
Unless you are fluent in Porto you have a great chance do go into a bait and swich.
Better go to some good CLínica or privée and see your GDP alive!
First Test Drive your girl there and, if you liked her, invite her to your hotel.
Normally when I take friends with me I tell MMe Vaní, she is open for these deals. But other places will do it so also.
Have fun!
ABG[/QUOTE]ABG,
Habitually my favorite playgrounds are.
1) Privês: more precisely Redway and Espaço Morumbi. I didn't visit Espaço Morumbi last year. As I won't stay in Moema this year, I have no intention go visit Espaço Morumbi this time. I'm very satisfied with Redway even if I'm a little bit critical of the rooms (I hate the one on the patio outside and with molds on the wall!)
2) CLínica: My favorite one is still Redmassagem, in Moema. I'll visit that premisse this year. I especially like to have duplas there. Elis is my favorite GDP. A trip to São Paulo wouldn't be complete without a session with her.
3) I always book two or three sessions with free-lance GDP. It's a little bit more expensive but all things considered it is still a very good option. Of course it is almost mandatory to speak Portuguese. There's always a chance to extend your session for several hours (without paying extra money) if there is good chemistry between you and the GDP. So far, I was always lucky. I hope it will be the same this year.
4) I always pick up non-pros in Happy Hours. Just for the fun of hunting women that are not "mercenarias". I still get a kick out of it!
5) Finally, I always pay a visit to a former GF. It feels good to be with someone that knows you intimately.
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Redway recomendations
[QUOTE=Blue Mango;1413197]I got there. Looks like the good ones have left for the day. Any recommendations?[/QUOTE]Yesterday arrived ar RW 5 PM. ; even for a Monday the house was packed of gorgeous girls. Great happy hour!
Did a revival with Daní the small mulata (see my erlier post about her ).
But most of the girls were blondes, as well as Aisha, the philipino / brasilian girl, now with her new looking hair!
But be there before 8 PM. After this time the best looking girls are gone!
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[QUOTE=Sui Generis; 1413950]ABG,
Habitually my favorite playgrounds are.
1) Privês: more precisely Redway and Espaço Morumbi. I didn't visit Espaço Morumbi last year. As I won't stay in Moema this year, I have no intention go visit Espaço Morumbi this time. I'm very satisfied with Redway even if I'm a little bit critical of the rooms (I hate the one on the patio outside and with molds on the wall!)
2) CLínica: My favorite one is still Redmassagem, in Moema. I'll visit that premisse this year. I especially like to have duplas there. Elis is my favorite GDP. A trip to São Paulo wouldn't be complete without a session with her.
3) I always book two or three sessions with free-lance GDP. It's a little bit more expensive but all things considered it is still a very good option. Of course it is almost mandatory to speak Portuguese. There's always a chance to extend your session for several hours (without paying extra money) if there is good chemistry between you and the GDP. So far, I was always lucky. I hope it will be the same this year.
4) I always pick up non-pros in Happy Hours. Just for the fun of hunting women that are not "mercenarias". I still get a kick out of it!
5) Finally, I always pay a visit to a former GF. It feels good to be with someone that knows you intimately.[/QUOTE]S. G. 100 % with you!
But only if, as you are, and individual who is a teacher, left in São Paulo for quite a while and knows all the local mongeres. You are even member of the biggest board in Brasil, and maybe in the World!
But if it comes to an average person, who do not know the city well, speaks little or no Porto, going to get a girl from the internet will most likely end up as a disaster!
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[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto; 1414216]S. G. 100 % with you!
But only if, as you are, and individual who is a teacher, left in São Paulo for quite a while and knows all the local mongeres. You are even member of the biggest board in Brasil, and maybe in the World!
But if it comes to an average person, who do not know the city well, speaks little or no Porto, going to get a girl from the internet will most likely end up as a disaster![/QUOTE]ABG, I cannot wait to see you in a couple of days.
Stars are well aligned for me nowadays. I received job offers in Porto Alegre, Brasilia (beurk!) and I'm working on a project in São Paulo that will probably open doors for me. I'll tell you more about that. It seems that I'll be back in September in Sampa. For Professional reasons.
Back to your post. The only things that I can complain about privês and clinicas is that it is more difficult to find a GDP who speaks English in these venues. Don't forget that ISG is an International forum and most mongers are not speaking Portuguese. Consequently, they have more chance to find an English speaking GDP thru internet ads or if they visit a boate.
If I settle down in Sampa, I'll give free English (French and German) courses to GDP!
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RedWay
[QUOTE=Sui Generis; 1414241]ABG, I cannot wait to see you in a couple of days.
Stars are well aligned for me nowadays. I received job offers in Porto Alegre, Brasilia (beurk!) and I'm working on a project in São Paulo that will probably open doors for me. I'll tell you more about that. It seems that I'll be back in September in Sampa. For Professional reasons.
Back to your post. The only things that I can complain about privês and clinicas is that it is more difficult to find a GDP who speaks English in these venues. Don't forget that ISG is an International forum and most mongers are not speaking Portuguese. Consequently, they have more chance to find an English speaking GDP thru internet ads or if they visit a boate.
If I settle down in Sampa, I'll give free English (French and German) courses to GDP![/QUOTE]At Red Way Takuma, the new manager, Suzana and Dani, all speak english.
MMe Vaní understand and speaks some words.
And they wellcome all ISG members.
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[QUOTE=Sui Generis;1413950]3) I always book two or three sessions with free-lance GDP. It's a little bit more expensive but all things considered it is still a very good option. Of course it is almost mandatory to speak Portuguese. There's always a chance to extend your session for several hours (without paying extra money) if there is good chemistry between you and the GDP. So far, I was always lucky. I hope it will be the same this year.[/QUOTE]Sounds great SG! But can you go into more detail about how you go about getting this extra time with the free-lancers? Is it just because you are having so much fun they forget about the time and want to continue, or do you go in with a plan to make this happen? Are you able to get this extra time the first time you see a free-lancer, or is this usually with free-lancers that you have previously visited? Any strategic tips would be appreciated by all.
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[QUOTE=Pilfers22;1414258]Sounds great SG! But can you go into more detail about how you go about getting this extra time with the free-lancers? Is it just because you are having so much fun they forget about the time and want to continue, or do you go in with a plan to make this happen? Are you able to get this extra time the first time you see a free-lancer, or is this usually with free-lancers that you have previously visited? Any strategic tips would be appreciated by all.[/QUOTE]What a strange question, Pilfers22?
I think that you're asking this question from the wrong end. I think that when it comes to «chemistry» there's really no (rational) explanation whatsoever.
I definitely never go with a plan when I meet a GDP and women in general. The answer lies maybe in the fact that I never consider women as « pieces of meat » or « sex toys ». I like to make them feel unique. Don't forget that I have French blood running in my veins: I know how to talk to women.
Moreover, I am always respectful, polite, I have a good self-esteem of myself, I'm very confident and that's about it.
I don't have extra time with all free-lance GDP. That would be preposterous to say that. But when I have extra-time it always occurs on the first date. I don't know how to explain that. Period. I was always blessed with this capacity to seduce women even if I consider myself an average looking man. I always had the occult power to attract women. When I was in my 20's each time I was in a stripper club I was able to go out after the evening with a stripper without paying any money. I eventually ended up living- for 25 years- with a former stripper. I know what sex workers (which are also normal women) are looking for in a man. They are looking for men that treat them with respect. I don't know what to add. There's definitely no answer to this question.
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Chemistry with a GDP
[QUOTE=Sui Generis; 1414504]What a strange question, Pilfers22?
I think that you're asking this question from the wrong end. I think that when it comes to «chemistry» there's really no (rational) explanation whatsoever.
I definitely never go with a plan when I meet a GDP and women in general. The answer lies maybe in the fact that I never consider women as « pieces of meat » or « sex toys ». I like to make them feel unique. Don't forget that I have French blood running in my veins: I know how to talk to women.
Moreover, I am always respectful, polite, I have a good self-esteem of myself, I'm very confident and that's about it.
I don't have extra time with all free-lance GDP. That would be preposterous to say that. But when I have extra-time it always occurs on the first date. I don't know how to explain that. Period. I was always blessed with this capacity to seduce women even if I consider myself an average looking man. I always had the occult power to attract women. When I was in my 20's each time I was in a stripper club I was able to go out after the evening with a stripper without paying any money. I eventually ended up living- for 25 years- with a former stripper. I know what sex workers (which are also normal women) are looking for in a man. They are looking for men that treat them with respect. I don't know what to add. There's definitely no answer to this question.[/QUOTE]PF, to add a little more to this discussion I would like to point out that this " chemistry " is something that's natural attraction between a womwn and a men, even if she's a GDP she's a woman! She has feelings! And if she's a GDP she must love sex, otherwise she will nor have success in her venture.
Also myself when I use to be a youngster I had sex for free with a lot of non pro girls, in USA and I Brazil. Rio de Janeiro was the best at those golden years of the "bossa nova"
Even the famous Kilt Club, at those days a small place, was one of my favorite hunting places. I ended up several times having sex with a garota from Kilt Club for free. Tania Maciel, the founder and owner, was there every night.
That's why I like so much to go to Redway.
Even that some times house lacks of some details, as the mould on the wall of room number 3 that SG pointed out several times in this boarda, there are always new girls coming into the cast every week! And now vaní has refurbushed this number 3 room, also hired Takuma, who is fluent in English and Japanese, so there are no more commuinication problems with the ISG members.
PH, take an example of Daní Mulata, the 19th years ebony girl I've introduced to you on your least trip to Sampa. You had a great time with her.
I'm shure she did what she did with you was not only because of the money, but because the feelings she has about you. You did the right thing, you TD her first and later you had her complete.
Regarding the "free" or independent GSPs you had a very good time with one of them, I would rather not nominate her on the open board since she's a " ficha rosa".
But you have to agree that you only achieved this point because you've learned enough Porto to be able to comunicate well! Congatulations!
IMHO 99, 95% of the "free" GDPs do not speak anything else than portuguese and for an average expatriate who don't have the skills to comunicate, he will be in a great risk, unlesse some brasilian guy is with him or recomended a specific GDP!.
Even worse if he reachs a GDP by the internet, if he finally gets someone who answers his phone call and speaks english, almost 99% of the chances are that the guy ends up with some agency, and "bait and swich" is their normal procedure.
As a rule of a thumb, inspect before you get it. Go, see and talk to your GDP before getting laid!
Also forget about boites, if they have personal who speaks english they will generally rip you off!
In the event you want to risk your neck at a boite, negociate your entance fee, most of the boites will lower their entrance fees even if you are not fluent in Porto. nornally entrance fee is paid in advance.
Beware of surprises by ending up having to pay an astronomical bill at the end of the night!
So pay each drink separetly.
Before ordering a drink for your GDP ask the waiter (and not the GDP) how much it costs, all the GDPs have comission over the drinks ans will ask you the most expensive!
Beware of anything you are drinking,
Don't get into a " good night Cinderella " trick, where a GDP mixes some narcotics in your drink so you sleep well and when you awake she's gone and you have been ripped of of all your money, credit cards, etc!
I even know cases that the guy had his clothes stollen!
Do not be an idiot, I've seen many cases of GDP's who work at the "prediões" who charge R$ 30, 00 for one "quickie" during the day asking (and getting) R$ 500, 00 from a gringo at night on a well known boite. You have to be rich and also be dumb to do so! Don't get drunk!
Never go to a motel with a GDP without checking her I'd, to get laid down with a minor is a severe ofense and you will be in big trouble if caught! This is a special warning if you plan to monger at beach cities like Rio, Salvador, Natal, etc.
But I wish you'all a GREAT TIME!
ABG