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To Sandman - repeatingly arguing that he does not speak Tagalog, and think that this will cause him a problem in Manila.
English is spoken by the majority of the working girls, hence you will have no problem. However - if you go out in to the provinces, away from the tourist-track, you may encounter some language barriers.
My 2 cents worth is that you visit the EDSA International Entertainment Complex where several bars are located at the same place. I have never encountered any problems there. This is just across from the Heritage Hotel which is on Roxas Boulevard.
The barfine is php.1.000,- (usd.20), and the girls will start asking for php 2.500,-, but you will, by negotiating pay php 1.500.-. If the question of tip to the girl is not coming up before you do the deed, php 1.500 for an all nighter is acceptable. In addition you should pay php 50 to php 100 for her taxi in the morning.
I have previously also suggested LA Bar and Cafe in Ermita as a good pick-up place. Been there a few times, and here you will find working girls "off duty" and free lancers having a good time.
I suggest that you go back to the old forum - and READ (or print out) the previous reports for 2002 and perhaps even for 2001. You will find a lot of accurate info there, hence not having the "old timers" repeat messages that they posted only few months back.
Wish you best of luck in RP, and I honestly cannot see that you will encounter any problems while there unless you are dead drunk and make a fool out of yourself.
Thanks Marconista,
I'll try to check out these places you suggested. Where is Cafe Ermita at?
What about the malls like Glorieta, Landmark, and Robinson? Are they good places to meet girls too.
I am assuming the bars are better and the massage places are good to.
Any other suggestion would help. Thanks.
I wonder if everyone knows the forum changed, not that much post.
Sandman
I may confirm to follow Marconista's suggestions, I' have been some 40 times in the Phls. and what he say is precisely right, in The Edsa Complex you will find some 600/800 working girls, you may go there at 8 pm sit in the coffee shop a the entrance and take a look at the girls when they come in - up to 10 pm the differen shifts start working, you may yust check where the one you like is going in.
I may suggest you the discos belonging to Firehouse Corp., LA Cafe in Eremita, I had some very lucky shots there, some other nights absolutely nothing (whent home alone)
Please do go only in places where other foreigners (white poeple) is, do avoid places where only Filipoinos are around, you would might be less safe there.
arghhh! resize the netscrape window and the entire damn posting disappears. shit! next time i'll know better and post my first draft and then go back and edit it like this snazzy new interface permits. hope this helps someone enough to be worth retyping it all.
i'm finally back "home" in malate, taking some time to get answers for folks who asked ...
my girlfriend convinced me to take a walk down to the bay at 7am to watch the war-canoe races. since it was such a beautiful morning, i just kept walking after they ended. i eventually passed through the edsa area, and even at 9am on sunday morning some guy says "nice girl for you?". that was at the corner beside the flyover where the 'to baclaran' sign is on roxas. i can now confirm that if you walk a few more blocks and turn left (east it seems) that you will wind up on harrison street when you cross the invisible boundary from pasay to malate. turn left (north?) from there, walk through what to me look like slums with some dingy bars and you eventually wind up at harrison plaza, which opens at 10am on sunday. if you keep walking north (the bay is now on your left a few blocks down), pass the zoo, harrison street turns into a. mabini. if you continue along mabini, you'll pass a slew of bars and walk right into the ermita area in about 10 minutes - that's walking slow, filipino style. ok, enough boring directions!
yesterday (thu) around noon i took a stroll down adriatico (which is one block east of mabini), to the sm dept store at harrison plaza to buy some stuff i needed. i would *not* recommend walking through the slums between the touristy part of adriatico and harrison unless you're very brave or very foolish. once you get south of the fancy new streetlights they installed in april, go back down to mabini, or better yet down 2 blocks and hop on a 4 peso jeepnie, which is what i usually do and what i'll do the next time myself.
on my way, i thought about posting that the malls aren't really the best place to find women for hire around here (though not a bad place to find ordinary girls hoping for a foreign boyfriend). seems that i still look too much like a foreigner, as i hadn't been in harrison plaza more than 20 minutes when "mama-san" introduced herself by the "east patio" just past the cellphone booths on that end, and offered me the pick of her little stable which ranged from fairly cute teenagers to one that was so pregnant that i thought she was going to drop a newborn on the floor any minute. she was understanding when i explained that my gf would be totally unimpressed if i brought another girl home ... what's hilarious is that about 20 minutes later my gf txt'd me "i hope you didn't find a new girlfriend on your walk"! anyway, "mama-san" said that i was welcome any time i might be in the mood, suggesting that she and her girls are there fairly often, at least when the security guards don't chase them out. if you see a gaggle of young ones circling a fairly dumping looking 30/40-ish woman, that could be them. if that's what you're looking for, then be casual, take a stroll around the 2nd floor, park yourself by a railing and play with your cell phone, occasionally glancing at the wildlife. if your timing is good, you'll be approached; it took "mama-san" a whole one minute to hit on me once i leaned on the railing. let them come to you; don't go asking girls at random unless you want trouble.
an hour or so later, i took another stroll around the 2nd floor perimeter, saw another likely one, walked past her, got "the look", walked down to the end, turned around, and sure enough she said "would you like a girlfriend?". she would have been maybe mid-30's and a bit worn looking, though dressed fairly nice.
i stopped in at the london underground on my way home to say goodbye to my favourite playful little bargirl who's leaving to go back to live in leyte. sigh, if i've ever regretting not taking someone out, with her personality and made-in-heaven figure, she would be it. i'll have to go back for a beer in a few days to see who's new. fyi, the barfine there is p1000, with the going rate for the girl another p1000, though some girls may ask for more.
oh, before i forget, last friday night about 9pm i left robinsons, loaded down with bags of groceries, and two *really*cute* young ones across from the mall on pedro gil asked me for a date. tempting!
ramble mode off. time to get some work done! cheers.
I am going to see if one of my friends will come with me to these places. It would be nice to check out these places.
Are there any problems bringing girls back to the Hotels in Manila ?
What is the going rate for a good looking lady for the night ?
Should I go to the Shopping Mall / or out to a Bar / Club ? I tend not to like the Club Scene very much.
Are there any Escort Agencies - or are there just too many girls available to make this not a good option.
I will post my trip when I return in 4 weeks.
Thanks
SandD
Any word on [b]Sky[/b] massage parlor in Santa Cruz, Manila?
Last time I went there it was closed :(
Too bad- I knew a nice gal there, I got her cel- but it seems that she lost it (her old number can no longer be reached)
My first post, and its a reccomendation for what i can honestly say will be the best sex you have ever had.
An 18yr Old stunner from Leyte, Jessica Canyete is working down the EDSA complex in either The FireHouse or Casino Bars.
She is a three holer, gives excellent BBBJ and, quite simply, will fuck your brains out.
Aside from the bar fine, you can expect to pay her between P600 and P1,500 for a short time or overnite romp. This girl just loves sex!!
You can see a 3minute MPEG of her giving head at Yahoo Briefcase (family file):
username: tonyjohnsonxxx
Password: johnoo
Jessica is also game for sneak out work, and can be contacted on 09202457183 or landline 8537294.
Any particulars (age, height, build, looks, hair, etc)- and d00d, theres nuthin in the folders in the tonyjohnsonxxx link
[QUOTE]Originally posted by tonyshimada
[i]My first post, and its a reccomendation for what i can honestly say will be the best sex you have ever had.
An 18yr Old stunner from Leyte, Jessica Canyete is working down the EDSA complex in either The FireHouse or Casino Bars.
She is a three holer, gives excellent BBBJ and, quite simply, will fuck your brains out.
Aside from the bar fine, you can expect to pay her between P600 and P1,500 for a short time or overnite romp. This girl just loves sex!!
You can see a 3minute MPEG of her giving head at Yahoo Briefcase (family file):
username: tonyjohnsonxxx
Password: johnoo
Jessica is also game for sneak out work, and can be contacted on 09202457183 or landline 8537294. [/i][/QUOTE]
To Tonyshimada,
That was a selfless post. Thanks, we need more guys like you here with particulars.
Howdy Marconista ! Just thought I'd check the Manila page. I'm still "slumming it" up on the A.C. page.
Sandman,
I'm gonna jump on board with the rest of the guys and recommended EDSA complex the L.A. Cafe (I've had some truely memorable evenings with ladies from L.A. Cafe) and, if you have time, check out Chaos (formerly Vision, formerly Vixens....)
Stay away from P. Burgous in Makati. Beautiful girls, but priced for businessmen on large expense accounts. High pressure too.
Good luck,
Later dudes...
Firedick
[QUOTE]Originally posted by tonyshimada
[i]My first post, and its a reccomendation for what i can honestly say will be the best sex you have ever had.
An 18yr Old stunner from Leyte, Jessica Canyete is working down the EDSA complex in either The FireHouse or Casino Bars.
She is a three holer, gives excellent BBBJ and, quite simply, will fuck your brains out.
Aside from the bar fine, you can expect to pay her between P600 and P1,500 for a short time or overnite romp. This girl just loves sex!!
You can see a 3minute MPEG of her giving head at Yahoo Briefcase (family file):
username: tonyjohnsonxxx
Password: johnoo
Jessica is also game for sneak out work, and can be contacted on 09202457183 or landline 8537294. [/i][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Originally posted by hooker tester
[i] [/Been looking for Jessica. No answer on the cell and on the landline nobody knews here.
However been too LA Cafe in the morning around 09.00. Still plenty of freelancer. Got one mixed spanisch good body around 24. Agreed 1000 peso if she could make 3 blows.
Soo she first gave me a good BJ. When she gave me massage i was ready again soo i fucked her one time.
Nice pussy tigth.
Besides i bring her too a motel in pasay kamahang with a love set. Nice chair could easy fuck the girl in diffrent positions.
Soo i will also recomend L.A Cafe for pickups.
Is L.A. Cafe on EDSA frequented mainly by foregners? Or is there a good mix of the locals. I will be there in July and this place sounds very interesting.
L.A Cafe is in Ermita. Used to be Rosies Diner. Mostly foreigners but a few local guys.
It's great for the ego. You can't sit and have a quiet beer without a young lady coming up to you to talk.
Thanks Firedick. Can you recommend any other places? I was in Makati for work last March and did most of my hunting in Stardust on Quezon Ave. - got to know the Mammasan...
I will be there again this July for a few weeks - hope its not too hot then.
I'm going to the Phillipines in the beginning of July, and I'm staying for a few months. When I get situated, I'll let ya'all know how to contact me, and we'll have a few beers. I don't know where I'll be staying yet, but since I'll be there a couple of months, I'll get an apartment. I don't want to be in the metro area but I also don't want to be in the boonies either! I want to find a decent place, but I want it to be inexpensive also. I also want it to be somewhere near the action! Can anyone give me the name of an apartment complex that meets my discription and will rent for only 3 months? Also... I will be bringing my laptop computer. Can anyone tell me how to get internet service while I'm there and what is the cost? Once I get set-up, I'll be making regular posts to let ya'all know how it's going.
Latter,
Maggicman
Sajora,
The "Complex" located at EDSA and Roxas (all the cabbies know it) is a good place to start. Chaos (formerly Visions and Vixens) can be good or boring.
July isn't too bad for weather. May is usually the hottest month.
Maggicman,
Can't help with the apartment other than Ermita is cheap, since Mayor Lim cleaned house, and it's close enough to the action.
It will probably be much easier to set up an account with an internet cafe than trying to set one up at your abode. The problem is the phone line. You could wait months to get a line installed.
Firedick
Firedick,
Let me know if you want to meet for a few drinks. Work has been sending me to Manila 3-4 times a year for the last couple of years. I will be in Makati on July 15 for a few weeks. Email me at sajora66@hotmail.com if your cool with that.
Hi i hope someone out there can help me to translate this text in tagalog to english,i know this not the board to seek help for any translation but i do not know where else to go for help any help is greatly appreciated
Sori sa mag bnitiwan kong salita gus2 ko ing saktan ang sarili ko para makalimutan ka sori d muna kailangan sabhn sa mga manager mo na bwisit ko kya pala
Thanks again
regards
here goes my translation,but i am not a native tagalog speaker,but i speak tagalog and cebuano. roughly I am sorry for the things i said,i could kill myself for doing that stupid thing,please no need to tell the manager you are angry or upset.any filipinos out there,sorry if it is not exact,but tagalog and cebuano are not my native language.regards
hello again,the second part should be I could kill myself to make me forget you then sorry for doing the stupid thing.any native filipinos out there,dayuhan lang ako,kung mayroon mas magaling,pakitulong lang salamat translated i,m a foriegner here,anybody with better tagalog skills please help.regards
Here goes my attempt as well ...
I'm sorry for the things that I've said, would like to hurt myself so as to forget you. As of now, there's no need for you to tell your (since it was "mo") manager that I was such a nuisance.
"kaya pala" translated means "so that's why" but it's at the end of the statement so not sure whether bits have been cut off.
Thanks you Cebu local and Benz i really appreciate the help,thanks again.
dear jjs benz and i hope that our translation helped,would like you to know that there is nothing about asking non sex related questions,personally i give hotel tips,directions etc,just dont ask me about manila regards
Would like to inquire if anyone has ever tried the escort services that are listed in the Buy and Sell paper. Have never done it but curious enough to try it out.
Also, since I'm currently stationed in this country, do you think it would be safer to get a temporary room for the "rendezvous" rather than using my permanent quarters?
Thanks in advance for any opinion on this matter.
benz,tried them before,they are casas in quezon city,sta mesa and manila.they have a good talker answer the calls for them.you can get lucky since represent part timers,had a sexy bank teller before.you pay more since they have to pay a commision to the answering service..use rented quarters first,it is safer regards
I've always wanted to try Viagra. Is it easy to get there?
the legal age of consent is 16 years old in the philippines.we have two mayors and a congressman currently doing life for sex with a 13 year old,the anti **** law has mandatory life imprisonment for ****s,about 30 foriegners are also facing life currently,you can bribe your way out if caught,but have about 10k u.s ready,cops love catching ****s and shaking them down.facing life in a philippine jail,you would probably cough up 5-10k,go to cambodia
cebu local
Thanks for the advice. You're right, it is dearer than the usual, hope it would be worth it. Last time I did this in Bangkok, she wasn't really worth the extra money but perhaps should've been unbelievably more persistent and explicit. Luck of the draw factor, too, I guess.
Got myself a temp place as well.
Thanks again.
ltlgrllvr,
This is not the place for this crap. If your tastes lean toward the sick, go someplace else.
This board is for heterosexual men looking for ladies, not kids.
Firedick
hi all! how does the philipines compare to bangkok and tj? thanks?
[QUOTE]Originally posted by jjs
[i]Hi i hope someone out there can help me to translate this text in tagalog to english,i know this not the board to seek help for any translation but i do not know where else to go for help any help is greatly appreciated
Sori sa mag bnitiwan kong salita gus2 ko ing saktan ang sarili ko para makalimutan ka sori d muna kailangan sabhn sa mga manager mo na bwisit ko kya pala
Thanks again
regards [/i][/QUOTE]
Translation: "I'm sorry for the things I've said, I just wanted to hurt myself in order to forget you. I'm sorry, but you did not have to tell your managers that I got upset -- that's why."
My best comprehension of her notes.
Sori sa mag bnitiwan kong salita gus2 ko ing saktan ang sarili ko para makalimutan ka sori d muna kailangan sabhn sa mga manager mo na bwisit ko kya pala
Sorry for the words I said, 'cause I wanted to hurt myself in order to forget you. Sorry. Its not necessary yet to mention to your managers that I am pissed off ..... so that's why
Cool,
Never been to the places like Chicago or Adelita's in TJ, just the strip joints on Revolution, which do not compare to either BKK or the RP (Republic of Philippines).
The subject of Thai versus "flip" has been tossed around on the WSG quite a bit. My two bits is that the Thai's are a little more sophisticated, slightly prettier but quite a bit more mercenary. (Someone please send me a spelling dickshunary !!!) The Filapinas are more romantic and fun loving. You feel much more like a date than a customer. I perfer the later, but enjoy the former as well. Ambiguous enough ?
Firedick
cebu local... can you tell me more about the casas in quezon city? How can we find them and how much are we expecting to spend? How much did you spend for that bank teller?
Firedick,
You are right Filipinas are more romantic however the game is the same. Filipinas try to drain your wallet for a long term and Thais go for the quick hit and move on. If you keep a count of the most family illnesses and personal problems then a Filipina will win hands down. It's a good thing my dick does not have ears.
sorry but i was just a guest of my friend who lives in up village,Q.C.the guide was my friend.the teller was 4000 pesos all night,nataga ako or i was ripped off,but she was really really good.then without the escort service cut booked directly 2500-3000 regards
thanks for helping out guys. thailand is #1 and the philipines is #2. but both are must visit venues.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by benz
[i]Would like to inquire if anyone has ever tried the escort services that are listed in the Buy and Sell paper. [...] do you think it would be safer to get a temporary room for the "rendezvous" rather than using my permanent quarters?
[/i][/QUOTE]
There's escort ads in BuyNsell? Ok. I only pick it up when I'm looking for a new apt, so lately I've been mostly using it as a fly&lamok swatter.
As for where to bring your friend then ... if I wouldn't take her to my home then I'm not going to take her *anywhere* (& in that case I sure as hell wouldn't let *her* take me someplace!). Choices in phils are plentiful enough that given a bit of time it's a non-issue. (I'm presuming you're reasonably wise to start with and prefer some quality even if short-time.) If you don't have a spare few days to sort them out and you're totally dying for need then yeah, I guess you'd take "her" to a P200 room for 20 minutes of faked bliss. But ... if you have to do that then you've missed the whole point of spending big chunks for your plane ticket to get here in the first place.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by maggicman
[i]I've always wanted to try Viagra. Is it easy to get there? [/i][/QUOTE]
I've been offered it on the street (Malate/Ermita). Ask 3 pimps, I'm sure at least one of them will be able to find it for you. I declined, stating my gf is quite happy with me as I am. I've heard reports of people od'ing on it around here. I'm inclined to believe them. If you really think you need it to "perform" then you really should go see yr doc 4it. Otherwise, what's the use of a 12 hour hardon that you can't satisfy, wears yr girl out beyond all reason, and maybe gives you a heart attack? Yr choice; not mine! Rule #3 - don't buy drugs on the street - anywhere.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by MadSkillz
[i]Firedick,
You are right Filipinas are more romantic however the game is the same. Filipinas try to drain your wallet for a long term and Thais go for the quick hit and move on. If you keep a count of the most family illnesses and personal problems then a Filipina will win hands down. It's a good thing my dick does not have ears. [/i][/QUOTE]
Short-term filipinas are the same as women everywhere else. Go beyond short term and you'll be "involved" as more than a fuck'n'forget'em dude. If you find the right one (and mine is for sure not off the street or any bar!) then it's worth it, as with any GOOD woman. Just make sure she's worth it.
Let me backtrack on one side-point - I'd take (have) a filipina over any other flavour for long-term. If you can handle it and deal with it, it _is_ worth it. IMHO, of course. Loyalty, sincerity, honesty ... leagues beyond anywhere else that I know about, but then be prepared to offer the same and follow through, 'cause then you have a real relationship. On the other hand, if you just want 20 minutes, you can have that here too better than in most places. Only thing is that short-term leaves you waiting for your _real_ filipina to come home to you.
... and now for something maybe useful for some ... had 2 "nights off" recently. Last week a cabbie (aka pimp with a taxi) made loko-loko signs behind a friendly lady that started talking to me in front of my Malate apt bldg. Said friendly lady gave wonderful BB head:dahan-dahan (yeah, I'm sure it's safe) sa P300 - I could have had FS for that, but I was happy with what I asked for :). Ok, so I gave her my small change bills, so it was like P330. Strange that pimps .. er ... taxi dudes ... would rather you paid them 10 times that for their "help" (plus cab fare and beer of course). I'd see her again on a "free night" ... but of course we must remember that I don't "do" stuff like that, eh ba?
FYI, BakLa are extremely active around the donut shop on Adriatico block south of Pedro Gil and general vicinity. Also some on A. Mabini. If they say "were are you going" and grab yr crotch if you're silly enough to stop, then start moving again! They'll probably ask if they can walk with you; they will follow you; they will be overly persistant - you figure out what you want to tell them. There's at least 7 of them in that area now and 3 of them are _very_ well disguised.
Speaking of annoyances, some beggars are now telling their toddlers to try to pick your pocket. Sad. Same area, Pedro Faura, Pedro Gil, along Adriatico and general area.
Of more interest ... discovered "G-Point" a week ago Sat night; a little bar on Padre Faura up from Mabini just before the 7-11 at the corner of Adriatico. Happy hour draft SMB is P30 (noon-9pm!); P50 after that; P55 for bottled. I first stopped in there about 11pm and it took about 3 minutes for me to get hit on "I work here but don't get paid for 2 more weeks, so maybe you could take me home for P500". (Her idea of "work here" is radically different from the bar manager's.) I never took her up on it but tonight I saw her hanging on to some guy ... you figure it out. :) Oh, she pointed out her friends to me last week, so that does seem to be a reasonable pick-up place - though packed with "foreigners with money 2burn:" sometimes. Somebody will need to clue the ladies at the no-frills open-air restaurant (sorry, its name doesn't come to me right now) down Mabini to show up at G-Point to keep the balance, but I was offered someone passible there for P1000 two weeks ago.) More important late at night is that pork-BBQ is P15.
For those of you who r wondering what I did 2nit
(too much txtng here!) I just went to my old regular bar for a few beers and the girl that's been eyeing me for weeks snuck out & followed me home, walang bar-fine. Damage was P1500 sa ka. (I enjoyed entertaining a friend). Oh! I don't do stuff like that! I *must* remember that!.
i agree with cancontrib with regards to filipinas,i am also with one,loyalty,honesty and sincerity if you get the right one.but they can also be great actresses.buyer beware.tried thai,but only good for short time,i prefer filipina for long term.once they fall in love with you,they genuinely will give their all.when i was in boracay,i heard about a filipina take a knife stab meant for her boyfriend,by putting her body between the thief and her bf,try making a thai take a knife in the guts for you,regards
forgot to add,she survived and the bf proposed in the hospital and she was an ex-bargirl.he told the papers that any woman willing to die for him was defenitely worth marrying.regards again
This is an interesting place for a beer or 5 when you're bored or just want a nice nite out. The manager, Michael, runs a great place; buy him a drink and and if you're a good guy he may drop a few on your table whether you want them or not. Get to know him, and if he feels y ou're cool he'll clue you in so that you don't leave with someone you need to be concerned about and if you can't figure things out yourself he'll give you enough pointers that you'd have to be a total idiot to leave alone unless you want to. He's gave me some 100% respectively accurate thumbs up and down. As for checking it out for real, oh yeah, I don't do stuff like that - I *must* remember that! :-)
On a decent night, the "foreigner/local" male ration is about 10:1, and the gender ratio is about 1:1; maybe a bit better. Buy a beer, sit back, and see what comes to you, but know that the best ones will be the shy ones. This seems to be about as close at one can get to a reasonably well-populated regular "friendly" bar around
here, at least the closest I've found.
The seems to be place where the LA Cafe girls come when life is slow in their regular abode. The G-point regulars don't seem to have very much good to say about the LA Cafe girls. Sometimes you may show up and there's nobody, sometimes you can't even get your first sip of beer before some LA overflow Shabu skank that couldn't find a john back there is trying to give you a tongue tonsilectomy, like what happenend to me last night. I finally, nicely, gave her P100 to go have dinner (without me!); I guess I paid her to just go away, which was a very good move in retrospect, since I later met a great real woman. [We won't mention that I wouldn't have felt too safe in the neighbourhood the LA girl wanted to take me to.] The good one I met after that is just a professional (secretary and it's easy to tell that's the truth) who's job went away when her employer went tits-up, so there's good potential after another visit or two, which since I'm not in any major panic for a date works just fine for me. She knows I'm not a "customer" for her and that if I ever invite her over she's making coffee in the morning because she *wants* to. She's cool with that, so I'm glad I went back for those 2 beers.
Anyway, the LA Cafe overflow seems to start at P1000 but will drop to P500 in about 14 seconds once they understand the cash isn't falling out of your overstuffed pockets. Would I snap up such an
offer? I passed. You do what you want.
I haven't actually entered into any negotiations with a non-LAcafe woman there, but I suspect that anyone worth spending all night with is likely going to be at least P1000, which is still pretty good for quality.
Speaking of LA Cafe, an honest talk with someone I bought a *coffee*d for at 1am tells me that it's a great place to go if you want womend all over you and you don't give a damn about who/what they are and you have money you're just dying to part with. Otherwise ... well, I'm in no particular hurry to it LA Cafe, and I only live a 5 minute walk away. So call me "picky". Either way, careful of the neighbourhood late at night.
Cheers.
CC
Ermita, more G-Point
A few days later (gf came home in between); just to prove the point, my next beer nite at the Gpoint had me walking home hand-in-hand down Mabini with my friend's friend for some more drinks and to talk (Short version!). We had some wonderful conversations (we really *did* talk a lot). Sorry, no details; you don't need those, you can figure out the rest. It was a *date*. Money? There was none of that silliness, except I insisted she not return the P100 I put in her pocket (3 times) for her taxi home at 8am. Yes, it can happen that way, and yes, she wants to see me again. We'll probably arrange that when I'm able - cell #s are great that way, We've txt'd a few times since then, so I know it's as real as sje was that night, which is VERY real.
I just have to say *thanks* to all the guys that are just out for short-time pros, cause you make life for simple guys like me wonderful. Good thing the WSG resource is anon, or I'd get in deep shit, but it is, so I can share some basics.
(I heard about this "Jurasic Park" bar; haven't had a chance to find it yet; like I need it?)
Why wasn't I smart enough to find Phils 2decades ago? Duh!
CC
I might head down to manila next weekend after my trip to AC,the g-point sounds interesting since i am usually hanging around burgos,makati.what is a good time to go and how much am i looking at spending???it is always interesting to try something new.regards
Yes, G-Point sounds at the very least, intriguing. Just recovering from a break-up, and perhaps this place might be a quiet alternative from your run-of-the-mill, well, "noisy" places.
Will give this one a try perhaps this weekend, anybody out there with similar plans?
Spent a week in Manila, and here's my report:
My goal was not to find rock-bottom prices, but to get good and laid with a minimum of hassle.
I stayed at the Copacabana Hotel. A very nice place right across the street from the EDSA Entertainment Complex, a venue of about 10 clubs with 200 women there at any given time. The hotel is completely guest friendly. The security guards out in front even suggested that some in-room company was the best way to spend an evening when the typhoon hit. They would always call me on the phone when the girl left with the message:"your lady visitor has gone home". Only one time, with a particularly young looking girl who had "forgotten" her ID card, there was a bit of questioning (understandable), but after a short interrogation (she convinced them that she had just turned 18) they let her come up with me (for a memorable session). Try to get room 1126 there if you can, as it is big, nice airconditioner, good TV, and in back away from street noise (1600 pesos/day). If you stay there, walk down to the Bacalaran Seafood market 1 KM away, pick some shrimp, crab, lobster, and they will cook it up for you there delicious....but on to other appetites......
I liked the Firehouse best at the EDSA Complex. Rates were always the same in all the clubs (seemed kinda high) 1000 barfine and 2000 for the girl, equalling about $60 US. That is the same as Adelitas in TJ, without having to go 7000 miles, but what you get is way different. The girls all young, cute, and loving, many are slender knockouts. Real GFE action. You are the boss. They stay as long as you want, ( I told them I was a 3 hour man which they respected). All the kissing, hugging, loving, and sex you can handle. They all allowed pictures being taken of them. Needless to say, I had a great time. Probably could have saved a few bucks, but for US$90/day, had a great hotel and a great lady every night. (That's what I paid in Los Angeles for a crummy motel room upon my return, with only a porno mag to entertain me).
By the way, it is fairly easy to find a "real" girlfirend while in the Philippines. I recommend the Glorietta Mall in Makati. Just walk around being friendly looking and chat some of the girls up (go for younger and prettier than you would expect at home). They will date you. Had a couple of nice dates (during the day) with a local. Never had intercourse with her (would have taken a couple of more days than I had), but ended up on my hotel bed with my hand up her panties the second date. A good appetizer for the evening's activities, and a fun way to spend the daylight hours.
By the way, the nice advantage in the Philippines is that most of the girls speak passable English, which makes it a whole lot better. Happy hunting.
Sounds like BigBromo got it right, which is not hard to do.
Cebu local, The G-Point population varies each night, but if you have the night free, show up about 8, bide your time and your beers, be friendly and your odds are good. G-Point "happy hour" are noon-9pm (SMB draft for P30, plus they have daily "specials" on drinks Hope you pick the right night. It's definately "rainy season" here now, so I've not been out for over a week, I don't know how many others go when it's this _wet_ - we're talking a LOT of water.
The "pros" wander in and out from the other bars at random - you can get one of those for P500 to P1000; barfine? what's a barfine at G-Point? They just run a nice friendly place for people to meet. I've never actually paid someone to go home with me there, but I once gave someone P100 to go away and have dinner without me.
I have however casually strolled home with a friend's friend and shared some more drinks and some good conversation, and some ummm, well, she wants to see me again; spoke to her today. Money had nothing to do with it, she's looking for love and who am I to argue with that?
Jeeez...we're getting all soft and mushy here... Wait a minute... I kinda like it !
FD
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Firedick
[i]Jeeez...we're getting all soft and mushy here... Wait a minute... I kinda like it !
FD [/i][/QUOTE]
In the local vernacular, "Ok Fine, Whatever" (which is actually the name of a pretty good TV show in Manila) ... I went out for a quick beer and someone I turned down 2 weeks ago offered short-time for P300. Ok, fine! P100 short-time, touch wherever, do whatever. She's actually quite acceptable and was very nice tonight, about 6pm. Almost regretting that I had "stuff" I had to go do instead. So know, if you're here for a while, not only do they come to you, but even if you dont' have the personality for "friendly relations" (hah! like I do?) then you _can_ still enjoy for petty cash. Hmmm, maybe next time, eh ba? But .. if it's not "free sa love", but just really "mura" then definately bring yer condoms guys. Just in case.
[I've passed up *MANY* P1000 offers, I just don't need them, but as long as tourists throw a few thousands (P) about then that's what most will ask first time around. If you're playing it casual, tell 'em "walang dough-llar" and that you promised to make supper for your gf tonight. They'll either wander off or they'll surprise you nicely, and I'm not in the slums here either, though I suppose by western standards you could debate that about Ermita.]
I am sure that you're all having great fun in the Philippines and if you're a visitor to the country then you're in some way helping the economy whether you're banging chicks left and right or having early morning breakfast at Aristocrats...after you banged chicks left and right
I wanted to post to thank Pat Rain for posting the contact info of his guide Jay R, my times in Manila after hooking up with this guy really went up several notches. He definitely knew the spots in the city, I mean I went looking for women one night and places to target shoot the next day and he knew where without even researching now that's a guide. Pat was right when he said this guy will get you home even after you're passed out drunk. Gotta have a little tip money, he does have a family to feed =)
Jay R 0917 414 5416
Just my two cents about Gpoint. I went there during a recent storm. The bar was sparse with lovelies. There were some babes playing pool but not much else. LA Cafe, otoh, had been much busier earlier that same evening but with some really hagged regulars. Also at Gpoint there was this really loud and fat woman singing which made it hard to talk to anyone. Overall, I guess i'll go back when it's not pouring with rain.
Cebu, your AC trip report sounded way cool!
hi there
I'm visiting manila for the first time over the christmas/ new year period, and was wondering if some of you guys cold give me some info on where to go to pickup women, like bars etc. good ones/ bad ones, and prices that I should expect to pay.
thanks
Dan
dan,what you are looking for are in previous posts,firedick and prog for angeles,cancontrib for manila,me for cebu lookup our previous posts regards
i've met cathy, i saw her number on this board. i think it was posted by django. so i contacted her on her mobile phone. she was friendly and very much accomodating. i even called her up once 7 in the morning and by 8 am we were doin it in the room already. just be friendly. dont be too forward. treat her well and dont be rude.
we met several times already and game me one of the best bbbj and sex i've ever had. and she did not ask money as payment though i gave her because obviously everybody needs it but she dont demand any amount just give what you feel is right and she would be happy.
if u want to try her out call her at this number: +639164461314.
dont forget to post here any results... also if u have other contact numbers i would really appreciate if u post it here
goodluck
I have enjoyed reading the many post and took some notes but misplaced them.
I'm arriving in Manila August 3rd early in the day.
I'm traveling alone so I have always been a little intimidated by Manila.
I usually get a flight to Cebu as fast as I can.
I know I'm missing out on some "fun" in Manila.
If I tried one night in Manila I read that EDSA complex is a good place Harrison Plaza, London Underground plus LA cafe in Ermita.
Question: what would be a reasonable hotel to stay at that is in the area of EDSA/LA Cafe?
One post said the Heritage Hotel (??????).
Any recommendations will be appreciated.
Again thank you to all who make this message board a well worth visit.
the heritage hotel is located across the street from the edsa complex and a 15 minute drive away from ermita.it is the closest large hotel to the airport and has a casino.pasay prices are lower then burgos prices,but cebu is still more"barato" or cheaper,it is sunny here right now cannot say the same for manila
Does anyone know what the travel time is between Pasig city and Quezon city during non-rush hour? What about the travel time between Ermita and Quezon city?
traffic is really unpredictable in manila. Pasig to QC or Ermita to QC could take anywhere from 10 minutes to more than an hour.
and to panday, how would you find Cathy? How attractive was she? how good and how much did you give? btw, how old is she, is she a student?
Thank you Cebu local for the info regarding Manila.
If I read between the lines I think you are suggesting come straight to Cebu.
I'll probably do just that. I'm a little more comfortable in Cebu even though it has been 10 years. I'll probably change my opinion after I see how much it has changed.
You are right Cebu local. The weather, on the average (from my memory) is "better" in Cebu than in Manila. Heavy rain in Manila vs sunshine and or light rain in Cebu.
Like you told me, Cebu local, some of my favorite eateries are still there and I doubt that the girls have changed all that much. Just me! 10 years older but I like to think I can keep up with the younger guys at least I like to think so.
No! I'm not ready for viagra at least not yet.
Question for you Cebu Local or anyone else who might know.
I'm planning on bringing my Nokia world phone and I need to get a chip and I guess a phone card to buy minutes to put on my account.
I was thinking it would work the same way in Cebu.
Making a long story short, Where is a convenient place to buy chip and phone card in Cebu?
qc boy,
cathy is 23 yrs old.. she not really that pretty though around 6 on the scale of 10.. but here great skills in bed can compensate for that ... petite... in all our encounters i did not gave her any money... usually i just treat her to lunch buy her some groceries thats it... and she is not a student...
do you have any others contacts of your own? post ur email address so i can email you off board.... thanks...
[QUOTE]Originally posted by panday
[i]i've met cathy, i saw her number on this board. i think it was posted by django. so i contacted her on her mobile phone. she was friendly and very much accomodating. i even called her up once 7 in the morning and by 8 am we were doin it in the room already. just be friendly. dont be too forward. treat her well and dont be rude.
we met several times already and game me one of the best bbbj and sex i've ever had. and she did not ask money as payment though i gave her because obviously everybody needs it but she dont demand any amount just give what you feel is right and she would be happy.
if u want to try her out call her at this number: +639164461314.
dont forget to post here any results... also if u have other contact numbers i would really appreciate if u post it here
goodluck [/i][/QUOTE]
Eeeeeeeey! nice to hear that someone else appreciates Cathy's skillz :D
Guyz- treat her right, and she'll give you a great time ;)
Everytime we meet, she always gives me a satisfying shag!
Any more recommendations from the group?
email me at: ecofighter_jun_kazama@yahoo.com
to mangothaibob
a chip or a sim card is about 300 pesos for a globe prepaid or 6 dollars.this you can buy at any cellphone store at any shopping mall,prepaid airtime cards are available everywhere gasoline stations,convinience stores etc.regarding the weather it has been sunny with showers lasting for about 10-15 minutes in the afternoon for the past few days here,but i will heading to manila tonight so i brought my raincoat.regards
Cebu Local,
Thank you for the info on the cell phones and the weather report.
I'll be arriving in Manila the morning of August 3.
Still have not decided to spend two day and one night in Manila or go straight to Cebu.
I think I will let my mood and the weather guide my decision.
It is hard decision because I read all the Manila reports and the girls with the cell phones.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I get the impression that a girl of 6 or 7 out of a 10 score can be found for all night at 1000 to 1500 pesos. Maybe that is just luck.
In the past I have been hesitant to bargain. I just say no or yes to their request. I think if I bargain her down her service will be less.
Anyone with thoughts or experience in the negotiating area.
I'm not ugly but I'm no Tom Cruise nor 25 anymore.
Secondly, is it fair to say free lancers if equal on the looks department are cheaper than bar girls. Yes, I know there is no bar fine so I guess you save there.
Last question for the day: For my first day/night where would be the best chance of finding a free lancer in public areas or eateries. I know it depends on the location.
I'll do it backwards. Where are the best opportunities and then I'll find a place to stay.
All views welcome.
Thank you all
[QUOTE]Originally posted by mangothaibob
[i]
In the past I have been hesitant to bargain. I just say no or yes to their request. I think if I bargain her down her service will be less.
Anyone with thoughts or experience in the negotiating area.
Secondly, is it fair to say free lancers if equal on the looks department are cheaper than bar girls. Yes, I know there is no bar fine so I guess you save there.
Last question for the day: For my first day/night where would be the best chance of finding a free lancer in public areas or eateries. I know it depends on the location.
I'll do it backwards. Where are the best opportunities and then I'll find a place to stay.
[/i][/QUOTE]
Yup, you should definitely bargain - from my experience, their services don't change all that much...just make sure you don't barter it down too cheap...I suggest that if you agree to their initial price, chop off around 25% (or more, if you drive a hard bargain), but demand good service for that price...with a hint of a bonus if you're really pleased. Just remember to get what you pay for...
free lancers or bar girls when it comes to price? Depends where you get them. If you go to high class escort services and the like, it will definitely cost more...but a street walker will be much cheaper than a bar girl. I personally prefer quality over price though...
If you're talking about Manila while looking for a free lancer - LA Cafe is the place to go in Malate. If in Makati, you can hit almost any hotel bar and expect to be approached. In Quezon city, there are an abundance of street walkers along Quezon Avenue at night, but I'd recommend going to either a club or an MP there instead.
Are there any bars near Makati where I can go and get a BJ or HJ in the corner, or such?
Noheyregresso,
While it's not standard practice, I've known people who have gotten blow jobs on the second floor of Wild West when there weren't any people playing billiards or darts.
Even know of one guy who got a BBBJ from a Mamasan Cecile while he was sitting in a booth and she was under the table.
Happy Hunting!
Thanks Explorer88. I'm staying at the Shangri-La, and was wondering what the closest "Blow Job Bar" would be?
I have a four hour layover in Manila in Sept. Any place I can get a quickie close to the airport? Also I guess I would have to go through customs correct?
[QUOTE]Originally posted by hukster
[i]I have a four hour layover in Manila in Sept. Any place I can get a quickie close to the airport? Also I guess I would have to go through customs correct? [/i][/QUOTE]
4 hours? You're cutting it close but you have *barely* (hehehehe) enough time if you hustle. Would I with a 4hr layover? Nah. 6 hours is what you need ... cause ... in traffic you can get to most of the places you've seen mentioned here in Pasay, EDSA, Malate, Ermita - it could take an hour, or it could take 15 or 20 minutes. Ok fine, but when you get there, then what? You're green and you're not just going to walk in and score. Ok fine, again ... you have money to burn? At least 3 of the venues I've mentioned in my postings can get you someone in 5 or 10 minutes if yr waving bundles of cash around (or may get you trashed if you wave too wildly). Say someone you actually _want_ to have intimate contact with takes you up on it, then what? You're going to talk for a few minutes and walk to a short-time room? Ok, fine again. But how much time do you have left? You're going to have, what, a "socially gratifying" half hour, maybe? If that's your goal, give it a try, but if you miss your connecting flight cause you got involved, don't say you weren't warned. Filipinas are mostly NOT clock watchers. See, you have this little problem .. you (and/or she) may want seconds. Even if you cut it short, you have to get _back_ to the airport in Paranaquay, and you have NO idea how easy or more likely awful the traffic may be if it's not in the middle of the pre-dawn hours. Ditto airport checkin and processing. I've waited 15 minutes each to get my shoes examined *twice*. You just don't know what you're going to run into at airport security. Is there a long line to *exit* immigration (it won't cost you anything to get your auto-21-day visa (if yr US/Canada/Europe/Ausie or such), but there will be a line, and outgoing have your P550 ready (about US$10 exit fee).
So, 4 hours? hmmmm. If *I* really wanted to do that I'd have a friend who lives in Paranaque/Sucat arrange it all for me in advance, and then *maybe*. 4 hours? Nah. not worth it. What's it cost you to rebook your flight, eh ba?
If you're asking ... can I find it at the airport ... then the answer is "not that I know of" (and not something I'd bother looking for anyway).
Hahahaha, here's a wild thought! I could walk outside right now and see one of at least 3 cab drivers I know quite well enough and arrange, probably for about P5000 to have him *deliver* a girl to the airport, pick you up, drive you around while you get laid, and drop you back off to go through the airport shit again.
Think I should propose it to some of them? They're very hungry for biz right now, monsoon season and all. They'll probably ask me how they know they'll get paid though. But is that kind of experience _you_ want? :)
I know this isn't what you asked, but my best advice is to give yourself a week, and if you're at least 10% with-it you can get yourself satisfied over and over again until you can't walk anymore, for P200 down to a drink or two and maybe throw in a mami at Chow King or some sho-mai. Right now, today, it's "what can you give me", at last with the last 5 that I talked to. Of course, those that are stupid or in a hurry are welcome to pay lots more; I have some "friends" who would just love to meet some rich foreigners. Do yourself a favour, give yourself 2 days to get oriented and set up, and 5 days of fun. But, 4 hours? Why bother? Sorry if that's not what you wanted to read.
Just wondering, does anyone know if New Magellan MP in Pasay is still open?
And any MP's in Manila worth visiting? Getting kinda tired going around the Quezon City area.... :)
New Magellan is still open to my knowledge.
progman's manila adventure:
i'll make this story short -
when i was in manila in january i met a pretty young girl at the robinson's mall in ermita. we exchanged phone numbers but i didn't do anything else with it...
since my flight out of manila was at 8:00 am on august 4th i decided to head down to manila on the 3rd and spend the night there. i rode the swagman "fly-the-bus" and stayed in their hotel. note: this place is a dump but was adequate for one night's stay. anyway, on the way south i was going through my cell phone's address book. i decided to take a chance and i text'd that girl i had met at the robinson’s mall. she text'd me back right away and told me she remembered me. i told her where i was staying and asked her if she wanted to have dinner with me. she replied yes and that she would met me at the hotel.
i arrived at the hotel around 5:00 pm. she was out front waiting for me. i had forgotten how young she looked - and cute too! she waited for me down in the lobby while i checked in and threw my bags in my room.
we had dinner right there in the hotel restaurant. we had a very nice time. she was college educated and actually had more to say other than just: “what's your name? where you from? how long you stay here? where you staying? you barfine me now?”
about 9:00 pm i told her i had to get to bed because of my early flight. i asked her if i could get her a cab somewhere or what would she like to do? she said she wanted to come back to my room with me. we weren't two feet into the room when she proceeded to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] me (in a good way). at one point, as she was giving me a blowjob, she looked up to me and asked "can i swallow your cum?"... this pretty much set the pace for the rest of the evening. she left me around 4:30 am. i offered her 1000p but she wouldn't take it. instead she took 100p for a taxi and my email address. i'm sure the sick aunt, or water buffalo emails will be coming soon but so far none have popped up...
this was a nice way to finish my trip...
...(prog)
Hey Prog,
How much for her cell phone number ? :)
You're right about Swagman, dump. I'm really surprised it hasn't burned down with a couple dozen people inside. A major fire trap.
Better choice for an overnighter in Manila is Lotus Garden (formerly Royal Palm) corner of Mabini and P. Faura. Email: royalhtl@pacific.net.ph
They have taken reservations via email without a credit card.
Later,
FD
FD,
I was drinking a coffee and reading a newspaper at the Starbuck's, in the Robinson's Mall, when I met that girl. She was one of three girls that sat down next to me (at different times). She asked me if she could have my number. I joked that she could only have it if she gave me her number and a kiss. She did both. Very cute girl and had a beautiful smile! As far as her cell phone number: I don't know if I'll give you her cell phone number but I think her mother's available. I hear she's barely post-cherry!
Agree about Swagman's but for 900p (included free tansfer to the airport) I said “what the heck”. It's not like I was trying to save money - I just didn't want to grab a cab and go somewhere else. At the least the AirCon and TV worked (not that I did watch TV watching)...
...(prog)
prog
you lucky guy,will defenitely visit the starbucks at robinsons,i usually have my meetings in manila around the holiday inn.would be nice to have some R&R after the meeting,regards
cebu local,
A buddy of mine told me about the Robinson's Mall. He said lots of freelancers worked there. I really thought for sure that this girl was in “the trade”. She was either very horny that night, shopping for a husband, or setting me up for something more sinister like maybe she wasn't 18 yet and will try to frame me for money... In either case I'll probably try to stay clear of her. Still haven't received any emails from her. She can't play the "pregnant" game because I'm already cut... In retrospect it probably wasn't a good idea to have sex with someone that wasn't clearly working the sex trade (bar girl, massage girl, etc) but she was just so damn cute!
...(prog)
I am interested in watching a live sex shows in Manila or Cebu....any recommendations?
[QUOTE]Originally posted by progman
[i]Progman's Manila Adventure:
When I was in Manila in January I met a pretty young girl at the Robinson's Mall in Ermita. We exchanged phone numbers but I didn't do anything else with it [... read the orig posting for what's clipped...]
She left me around 4:30 AM. I offered her 1000p but she wouldn't take it. Instead she took 100p for a taxi and my email address. I'm sure the sick aunt, or water buffalo emails will be coming soon but so far none have popped up...
This was a nice way to finish my trip...
...(prog) [/i][/QUOTE]
After walking past that Starbucks at the entrance by National bookstore at least a few hundred times, maybe I should slow down and look? [if the ... I guess she's pretty well the "wife" now ... isn't riding shotgun on me] :)
Your friend sounds very much like several of my friends. To them "love" and future prospects means a ton more than a 3-headed blue peso-note on the spot. You know you hit gold when you have to insist thrice on stuffing cab-fare into her pocket. Keep her # and pray her cell fone doesn't get snatched. (for those new to Phils, please Please PLEASE treat the real women right, ok?)
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Firedick
Better choice for an overnighter in Manila is Lotus Garden (formerly Royal Palm) corner of Mabini and P. Faura.
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Yeah, that'll work fine. If you're up for a short walk (10 minutes of romance) then another option I've discovered is to head south down Del Pilar (the street LA Cafe is on), past the new and very impressive dancing fountains (with park benches for you to accept your woman's expressions of love - totally romantic!). When you see the place on the left with the psycadellic colours, you'll get a great room for P850 overnight or P450 for 4 hours (total! - other places will quote you P950 and then add the other P500 of "taxes" etc. You'd have to be blind on a moonless night to miss the flourescent purple/organge/green place. Id? sorry, I left my passport at home; yeah sure I'll fill in d card. Surprisingly nice room. Huge marble CR w.shower, (hahaha, tiny soap bar but there is shampoo), nice bed, TV, aircon, *no* small crawling local fauna! Pleasant staff, good room service. I'll go there again next time I have reason to be paranoid about the wife having a key to our condo. Oh! almost forgot - since I never do stuff like that I must have made all that up in a dream. :) Damn fine dream cause by dawn I was drained with my friend (really she is) trying for a last mouthful to the point of lockjaw. Cost? Well, the hotel room and a bottle of good P100 imported hooch. No wonder I live here now. Wish I had opportunities for all the "opportunities". Disclaimer - of course I never stray!
[QUOTE]Originally posted by cebu local
i usually have my meetings in manila around the holiday inn.would be nice to have some R&R after the meeting,regards [/i][/QUOTE]
CebuL, if yr around here that often, then we really should find a way to have a beer, eh?
Tried Barcelona Massage Palor last Thursday night. Located in Chinatown, has a KTV on the ground floor. You have two choices of women, price-wise. 400 and 1500 pesos. I think you will notice the difference in quality of girls. I went with a good pinoy friend who alerted me to the special. Because we were both partaking in the service, we were eligible for a 50% discount on the room rate. My girl was the spitting image of Selma Hayek (wore the letter O on her blouse). I'm glad I went two rounds with her 'cause she was hot. The only downside was her bugging me for extra cash on the way out. But, IMHO, I think the place is probably better than Maalykaya nowadays.
Going to Manila for the first time in years. Probably daft question but is Makati in Manila? Also would like advice on where the main action is and any hotel recommendations. Thanks.
CanContrib,
I still have the girl's cell number. I was actually surprised she still had it when I called her in Aug. My problem with this girl is that it just seemed too good to be true. This shit never happens to me in the US so I'm very hesitant to see her again. Honestly I'm not looking for a serious girlfriend or wife and I'm sure, if her motives are sincere, she is looking for a permanent relationship. Thanks for your comments and I agree with you - ALWAYS treat these girls with respect, whether they are working girls or not...
...(prog)
[QUOTE]Originally posted by FGump
[i]Tried Barcelona Massage Palor last Thursday night. Located in Chinatown, has a KTV on the ground floor. You have two choices of women, price-wise. 400 and 1500 pesos. I think you will notice the difference in quality of girls. I went with a good pinoy friend who alerted me to the special. Because we were both partaking in the service, we were eligible for a 50% discount on the room rate.[/i][/QUOTE]
Hey, where in Chinatown is this? And how much was extra service? How long does their promo last?
New subject:
has anyone recently been to the "topless" bars on Roxas Ave lately? Years ago, it used to be great. Last couple of trips, I sit and sit waiting for the girls to go topless. The Moma-san kept telling me the next act was topless. I heard that for over an hour and a half. Had this happen several times at both East Asia and Visions. Also, the Moma-son quoted me P4000 for an hour in the VIP room (that is after a P600 entrance charge, and more money for my drinks and the ladies' drinks). I asked her if P4000 was the charge for white guys!!
It is important to note, I was the only foreigner in the place, and I know the local Filipino guys cant be paying this rate for 1 hr.
I am just curious if anyone else gets this.
ps...I suspect they charge me more coz I have a hotel hire car with a driver when I arrive ( I am not rich, just playing it safe).
Barcelona Massage is in Chinatown of Manila right on Dasmarinas St. about 2 blocks from Plaza Sta Cruz. The current promo is 2for1 (your choice of 2 guys for 1 hr, or 1 guy for 2x1-hr session). The normal tip is P1,000. Are you a foreigner? Maybe that's why you were charged P1,500 by the girl.
Regarding East Asia, the entrance of P600 is ridiculous. A cover charge is normally P100-200 only. The VIP room of P4,000 should mean that you need to spend at least P4,000 if you use the room (including girl's time, drinks, etc) BUT NOT per hour! I would say you were way overcharged.
does Barcelona Massage have a showroom where you can choose your attendants? Do they have chinese chicks there?
Barcelona has a showroom. You look through a large glass pane. No there are no chinese chicks. If you want chinese chicks, go to Mainland China.
I was walking down Roxas Blvd. near Aristocrat restaurant last Tuesday about 7pm when I past by a woman who was just concluding a conversation with a guy. She was certainly worth a second look at least from my distance of 5 feet away. She caught my glance but I continued to stroll on by. She called after me. I slowed down for her to catch up. Bottom line she offered me her services for 100 pesos. I am not kiddin. She was certainly ok looking, probably about a 5/6. I was overly suspicious though. She said she was hungry. I didn't take her up on her offer 'cause I was late for an appointment but for those who are interested. Just be careful.
On a bizarre note, I was walking Roxas Blvd. on the other side where the mayor is putting in a boardwalk. I had to dodge a number of manual laborers carrying bricks. Lo and behold, I came face to face with a tall American guy dressed just like the rest of the laborers, probably making the same 200 pesos a day they were. We both said hi and continued on our ways. It was bizarre.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by lalake
[i]New subject:
has anyone recently been to the "topless" bars on Roxas Ave lately? Years ago, it used to be great. Last couple of trips, I sit and sit waiting for the girls to go topless. The Moma-san kept telling me the next act was topless. I heard that for over an hour and a half. Had this happen several times at both East Asia and Visions. Also, the Moma-son quoted me P4000 for an hour in the VIP room (that is after a P600 entrance charge, and more money for my drinks and the ladies' drinks). I asked her if P4000 was the charge for white guys!!
It is important to note, I was the only foreigner in the place, and I know the local Filipino guys cant be paying this rate for 1 hr.
I am just curious if anyone else gets this.
I tried Victory Hills on Roxas, south of Edsa, down in Baclaran. I was recommended it by a buddy. Without a doubt, they have some incredibly beautiful women. They have a fishbowl where you can choose women to sit with you for a fee. Some, I repeat some, of whom go topless and an even fewer set go all the way when dancing. Bar fine for the gorgeous chicks was 8000 pesos. Yeah right, I'm really going to pay that. They have private rooms and a funky stage arrangement. Check it out. However, I think I was royally screwed ending up spending close to 1200 pesos for an entrance fee, one drink and a service charge. I was pissed, particularly when my waiter asked for a tip at the end of it all. But I went there alone and was seen immediately to them as an American millionaire, aren't we all??? I wouldn't recommend Victory Hills but there are a series of clubs and massage palors along the strip there.
I'm going to try Dynasty as I have heard good things about it from a different, and hopefully more reliable, source.
I have been living in Manila for a while now. (currently in China though), but needs advise or has questions about our common hobby, please drop me a line at yufei_chang@yahoo.com
Cheers
to FGump, yeah it sounds like you got screwed. Im sure you got the white guy treatment. I myself am an american with filipino background so i get treated more fairly I suppose. Make a Filipino friend to get a better deal, i guess.
You might want to try Athena on Roxas. many of the girls and some of the mamsans there used to work at East Asia. Many of them go topless on stage but you have to wait sometimes for a couple of songs. Some go all the way. The place is nicer then EA, too. Ask for Mam Helen. If you get a girl thats game you might be able to get FS. Some of my friends were able to, but of course they are Fil-ams.
good luck
Fgump:
thanks for providing the info. I have been going to the PI 4-5 times per year for the last 4 years. But, I refuse to go any more. The prices are getting out of control. I have been trying to explain this to the bar owners and Moma-sans. I even had a Moma-san tell me once that they are raising the prices because the business is so bad ! Can you believe that ? I got an email from that same Moma-san in Makati recently, and she said the times are still bad. As a result, they are all getting more pushy, and more desperate. Which means when they see whitey (not a racial remark) coming in the door, they do everthing they can to get all the money out of you. And all this over-pricing is having an unintended effect in Angeles. I've heard that more people are going to Angeles instead of Manila which raises the prices up there. This is pissing off the local ex-pats that live paycheck to paycheck. I love the PI, and the Filipino people, but, I am so tired of gettting ripped off (not to mention the threat posed by kidnappings, etc). I hope one day they realize all this.
cheers.
lalake
Refer to my earlier post regarding Jessica.
SHE HAS RETURNED.
Sometimes using the name gerrie mae, she is working at Foxys Kalayaan makati, and also the LA Cafe in Malate.
Check out her video on YAT and other groups.
Tell her you are a friend of tony shimada, and enjoy the best night of your life.
Keep us posted.
TS
Forgot to say.
She has changed her fone numbers.
Not known at either of the numbers previously posted.
Sayang talaga!!
TY
TS
This is for tonyshimada
I will be there in Manila in Oct. I would like to meet someone like
Jessica. What is YAT so I can check her out.
Thanks
NYPD-Tips
NYPD Tips
As i say, she works at Foxy's, Kalayaan Ave. Makati and also freelances at LA Cafe, HM Del Pillar St. Ermita.
Buy her a drink and tell her that you know Tony Shimada.
That way, she will be clear exactly what your looking for, and will save you a lot of "chat up" time.
YAT is a yahoo group, Y oung A sian T eens; probably the best of it's kind. You can check out a vidoe that she did in the files section there.
Good luck, and keep us posted.
TS
could you post a link to the YAT site?
Does anyone have any info on local "entertainment" options near the airport (MNL)? I will be there for two days on my way to Cebu and was just curious if there was anything out here worth seeing or it is just too damn expensive....
why don't you give skytrek a try? its located on naia road (same road as airport). have tried both ktv rooms and the health club. good service and good looking ladies but not cheap.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by cute_tsinito
[i]why don't you give skytrek a try? its located on naia road (same road as airport). have tried both ktv rooms and the health club. good service and good looking ladies but not cheap. [/i][/QUOTE]
Can you clarify "cheap"?? $75 for FS or $150 for FS?? Also, please explain "KTV"? Sorry, have never been to MNL and not really familiar with how services are perforned...
nite runner
at skytrek, you can get FS at the health club/massage parlor for around US$50 (25 for the room + 25 tip for the girl)
a KTV is a place where you can sing using a karaoke/videoke machine. the better KTVs have private rooms where you can "sing along" with a lady of your choice. FS can be negotiated most of the time if you have chosen the right lady--usually with the help of the mamasan (just tell her that you want someone who is "game"). however, rates for FS in KTV rooms are higher and start at around US $60.
if this will be your first time in manila, please do look through the other posts here and in the archives to get an idea of how to go about talking to the ladies and mamasans. it is very easy to get ripped off if you are not familiar with rates/protocol.
good luck!
qc boy
URL to YAT
http://*************************YAsianT?yguid=90486094
[QUOTE]Originally posted by amboy812
You might want to try Athena on Roxas. many of the girls and some of the mamsans there used to work at East Asia. Many of them go topless on stage but you have to wait sometimes for a couple of songs. Some go all the way.
[/i][/QUOTE]
I took your advice and tried Athena last Friday. Rather than spend money on a hostess there, I barfined a girl from EDSA complex in order to broaden her knowledge (in theory) by watching a good strip show. Cute performers, not universally stunning, at Athena. Overall I must say the place was a disappointment. Once again, I feel I was overcharged. 700 pesos a person for entrance. Amboy, does this seem about right to you?
Mama san wanted to charge me an extra 1000 pesos for the strip tease but I balked. I refused to pay such a charge. In hindsight, it didn't matter 'cause there was no strip, only tease. No nudity! We were there for almost two hours and were never threatened with an exposed breast on the main stage. Also, I thought the cafeteria-style chairs were painfully uncomfortable. The layout of the club from the audience's perspective is poorly planned. You have to twist your body to soak in the stage show.
The most amusing entertainment of the night was the magic show on stage. The magician was obviously rather raw. His plump assistant had trouble keeping her tight-fitting gown on. At one point during the show she put her head in a box while the magician proceeded to slide knives (even if they were plastic) through slits on the side. She was in obvious discomfort tapping on the side of the box while he appeared totally oblivious. I am happy to report she survived but I was not so sure at the time.
All in all, though, I can't really recommend that guys spend money at this place.
FGump, I think they took you for a ride there. Im not sure though. 700 pesos seems to be a little too much.
FGump,
If you still have time, go visit Stardust on Quezon Ave. no cover. Ask for Mamasan Mercy, she's super nice and will give you the low down on the place. Tell her Bong U.S.A. sent you.
Sajora
to FGump- im sorry about your experience, P700 is a rip off! im a semi regular there so i dont get charged cover there but i know its not that much. They always have strippers when i went there. in fact my regular goes all the way when she dances. best bet is to vip the girls, some of them will give BJ,HJ, or even FS. But i guess they have a different operation with non locals. Sorry again, i owe you a beer or something.
Hi Tony, I couldn't get the link to work. I belong to a # of Yahoo groups, and did several searchs within Yahoo groups, with no luck. Plz just post the full name of the group, as it is found on your "My Groups" list on Yahoo. Thanks for your help. thor
Live and learn is my motto. I will continue to conduct research for the benefit of my brothers here in this forum . . . I just may stay away from upscale strip clubs.
Can anyone tell me the exact location of New Magellan in Pasay and if it still open? Also, wondering if there are any other MPs in the Makati area aside from Topaz and Imperial. Any help would be greatly appreciate ;)
New Magellan is in buendia a little past Taft Ave. I think its still open. If anyone can give more info on this place, it would be greatly appreciated.
YasianT is a "post to join" group.
Post an on topic picture or video and the moderator will give you membership status by email.
Post on gents, it is an excellent site, and the vid. of Jessica is still there.
Ingat lahat.
TS
hey tony, where do i need to post? i am a member of some yahoo groups but i couldn't even find that YAsianT group..
Thanks!
[QUOTE]Originally posted by qc boy
[i]New Magellan is in buendia a little past Taft Ave. I think its still open. If anyone can give more info on this place, it would be greatly appreciated. [/i][/QUOTE]
QC Boy, I visited New Magellan a couple of months ago. It is located on Buendia between Taft Ave and Roxas Blvd. I think they are open 24 hours but not completely sure. They have a fishbowl for you to choose your masseuse. The problem I have here is that they don't have any posted prices. They originally quoted me a price of 2500 pesos. I thought that was too much so I bargained starting at 2000 pesos, finally agreeing at 2200. That price was all inclusive. They had a relatively good selection of 10-12 women when I went there. My room was average; the place didn't have hot water which was a definite minus. My girl was hot with an awesome model-quality face but didn't want to go two rounds which was another minus. Overall, Maalikaya probably has better facilities but New Magellan has better-looking women.
Has anyone ever been to the massage parlor inside Traders Hotel? Can I get some info since I will be staying there next month....thanks
[QUOTE]Originally posted by FGump
[i]QC Boy, I visited New Magellan a couple of months ago. It is located on Buendia between Taft Ave and Roxas Blvd. I think they are open 24 hours but not completely sure. They have a fishbowl for you to choose your masseuse. The problem I have here is that they don't have any posted prices. They originally quoted me a price of 2500 pesos. I thought that was too much so I bargained starting at 2000 pesos, finally agreeing at 2200. That price was all inclusive. They had a relatively good selection of 10-12 women when I went there. My room was average; the place didn't have hot water which was a definite minus. My girl was hot with an awesome model-quality face but didn't want to go two rounds which was another minus. Overall, Maalikaya probably has better facilities but New Magellan has better-looking women. [/i][/QUOTE]
What do you mean by "The price was all inclusive"? Does the price includes FS?
I will be going to the housewares show in Manila later this month. I will be staying in the Holiday Inn im Manila. I know you can find some fun in Makata and in the bars around the Hyatt.
But is there anything near the Holiday Inn?
Thanks
I just arrived in Manilla yesterday and am staying at the Shangri-la Edsa - right next to MegaMall. I was wondering what action I can expect or 1-2 recommendations on where I should travel.
I'm supposed to be here for a week so would like the check out a couple spots.
wayne - i dont know if theres any action near your hotel, my suggestion would be to either go to
1. Quezon Ave, Quezon City for MP action like Pegasus, Heartbeat, or Maalikaya
2. Burgos St., Makati or the Edsa Complex, Psay for GRO bars
hope this helps
Wayne,
Shangri la has a pretty good happy hour, go late.
Amboy is probably a local (not a bad thing) but Quezon is not for the newbie. Yes, do go to the EDSA complex in Pasay. If you'll be there a week, also give the L.A Cafe in Ermita and Chaos on Roxas a try. Burgous Street in Makati has some of the prettiest women in the Philippines. But it's designed for the business man on an expense account. Expensive.
Everything, from where you are, is a taxi ride. Too far to walk safely.
Firedick
Wayne - well, Shangri La isn't really the place to get action, so I suggest you try out the places suggested by firedick and amboy...
But if you want to just grab a drink and such, you can probably try out Tequila Joe's or any of the bars and restaurants in St Francis Square near Megamall...nice place to hang out, and a lot of foreigners go there...walking distance too...and who knows, you may just get lucky :)
However, if you don't wanna grab a cab ride all the way to Pasay or Roxas for the places FD and Amboy suggest, just get a copy of Buy and Sell at any convenience store...check out the escort section, and they'll come to you. (there's a discussion about it in another thread...maybe Quezon City or makati)
Anything new on the MP scene in Manila?
Woohoo!
found another great number :)
09204111765 and 09193391200- goes by the name of Jo Marie
a l'il ornery at first, but she could become sweet- once she warms up to you ;)
Great BBJ- and FS at a reasonable rate :)
try her out! :)
and spread the word :)
Django,
Thanks for the info. I tried Cathy, one of your previous numbers and she was fantastic......Hope I can provide a number in return sometime.....
Hi, everybody. I've been a fan of the forum for a long time and finally decided to contribute... Anyway, I arrived to Manila only a month ago and took my time before getting any action. After reading the posts here I chose to start with Maalikaya. So yesterday I took a cab around 5pm from Shangri-La EDSA. However, when I told the driver of where I'm going, he told me that it might take a while to get there because of the time of the day and flooding in Quezon city (it was raining hard earlier in the day). Instead, he recommended to take me to New Magellan and wait for me there to take me back for only PHP400. I gladly accepted the offer. When we got to New Magellan I had an option to choose from about fifteen ladies who were sitting behind the glass in the lobby. The receptionist quoted PHP2600 (all inclusive), which I thought was steep, but being new I just accepted the offer. I chose a very pretty young lady and proceeded to the room. O, well - the room is not a five-star hotel accommodation, but decent for a massage and some action. It did have a shower (with hot water!).
The lady arrived in less than 5 minutes. She was so young... I think I made a mistake by starting a conversation with her. After I found out that she was only 18 and got to Manila only a week ago, suddenly I felt guilty. Don't get me wrong - I love to get a nice piece of ass, but in this case there was an innocently looking amature (I guess, almost amature since she is already working in MP). So I just tried to relax and enjoy the massage, which btw was just ok.
Surprisingly, my guilt disappear when she laid her naked bady on top of me. I usually don't like inexperienced providers, but in this case it was more like an amature GFE...
Anyway, to summarize, it was a different but, after all, a nice experience. Maybe I overpaid (PHP 3000 = 2600 entry + 400 tip), but, I think, it was worth it. Can't wait to try Maalikaya for comparison.
One more thing - I do agree with the previous posts - yes, the main goal is to get laid, but let's do it with class - treat the ladies right.
Cheers
HRC why don't you try Don Pedro at makati. The girls there are prettier and the facilities are comparable to 5 star hotels.
Salmingold, where is don pedro? What kind of place is this? Is it more for foreigners or locals? How much is the going reate in this place?
HRC, how were the girls in New Magellan? I've been wanting to try it there myself.
qc boy, as I mentioned in my report, there were about fifteen ladies - I think there was enough variety to satisfy most of the preferences. In general, they were all fine (6-9) - one caught my attention. She had enormous boobs for a Filipina. Besides that, it's really difficult for me to say more as I haven't had a chance to compare them to ladies in other MPs.
I'll wait for info on Don Pedro - maybe I'll try it sometime soon.
qc boy,
I don't know the name of the street of Don Pedro. All i know is from makati ave. when your from jupiter st. go straight and right after Imperial( massage parlor too) you turn right and it has its own building with bright lights with lots of taxi outside. I've heard its the same owner as starfleet, skytrek, pegasus and genie. But this is the latest of his line of MP
Hello guys!
I wanted to see the 3 min. vid. of jessica how can i join the yahoo group. could you email me the video. salmingold@yahoo.com
Salimgold.
Couldnt upload the full video, but have emailed you some piccies of the lovely Jessica (named marie in the photos, as was her name when she was call girl) together with Joy, another personal favorite of mine. Let me know what you think and give her a visit in the LA Cafe!!
QC Boy.
"Pallisades" is on Don Pedro Street, off Kalayaan Avenue, by JJ's Makati avenue.
All
Check out the numbers posted in the general section.
Enjoy Y'all.
thanks! But i wanted to join y asain t. How?
i want to join yasiant also.. tony can you provide us with some info on how to join? who do we have to send the pictures to? what e-mail? salimgold and tony can you guys forward me the pictures of jessica at flipballa90210@yahoo.com
thanks!!
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Django
[i]Woohoo!
found another great number :)
09204111765 and 09193391200- goes by the name of Jo Marie
a l'il ornery at first, but she could become sweet- once she warms up to you ;)
Great BBJ- and FS at a reasonable rate :)
try her out! :)
and spread the word :) [/i][/QUOTE]
Hi guys!
im really new here and ive read all the messages in this thread. They are really informative. I would just like to ask some questions with regards to topics similar to the one above.
1. How does the system work? like, do you have to be in a hotel, inn, or condominium?
2. Do you have to be a foreigner (im a local)?
3. Are they clean (sickness, diseases, viruses)?
4. How long does she stay with you or how long does the service last?
5. How much is reasonable?
thanks so much.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by HRC
[i]She was so young... I think I made a mistake by starting a conversation with her. After I found out that she was only 18 and got to Manila only a week ago, suddenly I felt guilty.[/i][/QUOTE]
You didn't get it, did you? The girl is trying to say that she's young, fresh and new! You should be generous enough to give her a larger tip, don't you think?
Another thing is when she says she is 18, she probably is younger. She wont tell you that she's a minor. What these girls say are usually false.
Salmingold how's the sabong? =) i'm gonna be there last week of november, try to make some time so we can go out and check out the goodies around Roxas blvd.
BTW guys, if you ever go to Lexus in QC u gotta check out one of the managers ..Lyn...I wanna bang that chick so much but she won't budge, and I dont wanna dish out alot of $$$ ..hanggang tsansing na lang ako
GROpapa,
Okay naman sabong. Just call me when you get here. I've posted my new number from latter posts. Whats ur real name again? email me salmingold@yahoo.com
I appreciate all the good advice out here so naturally I want to share my details -
I've been in Manila for two weekends now. The first weekend I didn't really know what to do or where to go so I decided in-call. I called one of the numbers listed on the board and stated I wanted some companionship for the evening. About 45 minutes later 3 women show at my hotel. The woman I had talked two brought 2 for me to pick from. Both looked a little too young. I selected the older looking of the two and paid 3000 which we had agreed upon previously. There was a problem with communication since she spoken very little english. Turns out no condoms so she gave a good BJ w/o condom and took it. Now I couldn't have sex w/o condom so made a run to the store and bought the 4 pack for 10. Round 2 was good. After that we watched TV a bit and then she left. She was a little too clingy after the sex and just wanted to hang out in my room. Overall: C+
This weekend I decided to check out Jools. I had to after everything that I'd seen written. Arrived there at about 9pm. There were many attractive women and few men. I sat down and was actually suprised by how long it took for a woman to come over to me but then they all wanted me to buy them drinks. I need to be more careful with the ladies drinks in the future. Did get the chance to check out two shows - very good. By 11pm I had decided to take someone back to the hotel for the night and next day. Damage at Jools: 1600 drinks ( 300 me, $300 ladies) + 2900 bar fine. I wasn't expecting the bar fine to be that much..and need to watch the ladies drink. I got to spend 11pm to 8pm the next day with her for 5000. Went a total of 4 rounds and also had a good time sighseeing. She was worth it..but Jools was expensive. Overall: A-.
If I'm around next weekend I'll do a 3rd report. Heck I might even do something mid-week.
Wayne
Wayne:
good report. Keep the info coming. I, myself, have been going to the PI for years and years. I have written in this forum a couple of times of the cost of bar-fines and ladies' drinks. I stay in touch with many people in the Makati bar scene, and have told the Moma-sans many times the reason they don't customers is the fact that the prices are going too high. She told me the manangers keep raising the prices because there ARE NO customers. Kinda ass backwards.
Anyway, if you want to see some hot girls, go to Bottoms which is right up the street from Jools. I've heard you can get BJ's in Fridays, and I know you get a good BJ in Hollywood.
If you feel drinks are too high, I always encourage most to tell the Moma-san its expensive, and tell them to start having "promotions." Go-Go Bananas once had a promotion Barfine of P1000. (3 for 1).
Good luck.
Lalake
G'Day All....just registered, this is my first post but i have been observing for a while...i like to watch! ha ha. Heading to Ph in a week or so, was there in April but with my fiance, we just split, she was a flippa in Singapore working as a nurse, turns out it wasn't medical comfort she was providing! My first trip to Manila was 2001, a pocket full of peso, and NFI about how to sort the shit from the clay first night. Next day, a local bloke followed me around he was a funny little bugger so i bought him a few beers and had a chat, i told him i wanted a girl, i would pay P1000 for the girl, and he would get P100 finder's fee, ....had to bribe him with dinner a McDonalds, but he found me a little sweetie down a dark alleyway....she was 7 outta 10, tiny titties, shy, no english, but she fucked like a ***** in heat...all night long P1000 for the night, but b4 we begun, he said mamasun wanted another P1000- told him we had a deal, no girl-no peso. When she left me the following morning, i almost cried, damn she was a wonderful girl. i gave her a tip of P1000 before she left, and she started to cry, telling me she loved me, i am sure she did. I stay in Ermita, UN avenue, i think i will hold a dutch auction with the local taxi driver's that hang around the hotel. Let them do the work, and i pay the commision.
Would be interested in any thoughts on this as a legitimate way to get companionship for a few day as this will be only my 2nd visit to Ph as a single boy
Cheers mate's
aussietoy
Hi guy's.
Just joined the board and wanted to mention Chaos Bar on the Roxas Blvd service road in Pasay City. I was there in March this year, lots of girls to choose from though some can be a bit pushy on the lady drink front. Chose a cutie (about a 7.5), paid the mamasan the bar fine which I seem to recall was 1000 pesos and off we went to the Traders Hotel, 200 yards down the road!
Her name was Reah and though enthusiastic she was a fairly average lay but her bj was good! Cost 1500 peso for the night and we wnet at it several times in varying positions. All in all a good experience and cheaper than I expected but I did negotiate Reah'a "tip" and gave her a little extra for a taxi - read jeepney!
Thaipan
I saw mention of a place called Cubao elsewhere on the board and can remember being taken to a locals place which I was assured is run by the police! The body search that we got on the pavement outside before being allowed in was the most professional I have ever had, these guys could teach the idiots that pretend to do it at airport security a thing or 2!
One inside there was quite a big stage where girls would come on for 1 song at a time, each for 3 songs removing a little more in between songs. At each side of the stage were private rooms with 1 way glass where you can entertain the lady of your choice for an hour or so.
I chose a girl who had been dancing earlier in the evening who had the most magnificient pair of tits I had seen fro a long time, she was 21 (she told me) and had only been working there for a couple of months. She was an easy 9 and we had a great time up until we are going at it hammer and tongs in the mish position and she suddenly whispers in my ear "I'm a virgin"! Well that did it for me! I came on the spot! Never had anyone work that one on me before but guys if you have a problem cumming ..... it will work every time even if she isn't!
I can't remember the name of the place but I think it had a large green parrot in gaudy fluorescent lights outside it. Not the best part of town but I reckong it was worth the trip, you really need some one to take you there who know's where they are going.
When they bring the bill the security guys come too! The cost of the girl was 2000 peso, a bit high but it was my first time and she was certainly well worth it.
Thaipan
aussietoy - As in any place, the local taxi driver knows everything and everyone you need to know about the trade...just be clear about what you want and how much you'll be willing to spend. Be sure to haggle on the prices, as he's sure to up the cost to include his commish (he'll never admit to that though) :)
Personally, I'm kinda leery about using taxi drivers...they do have a tendency to try and milk you for all your cash...but if you find an honest one, why not? He can also bring you to all the MP's or bars mentioned in the forum...you'd probably end up paying more though...but if you've got cash to burn :)
I'd also suggest you try out the local escort services in buy and sell magazine if you don't want to venture out of your hotel for a massage parlor or bar...
P-Guy...Thanx for the advise mate, really appreciate it. I do have 3 days to umm, shall we say relax with the comforts of the the very best and worst of femine kind. Might try the escorts as you suggest, Manila heat, humidity and stink is enuf to keep me in my hotel. The taxi's are still an option....I beleive in being open minded on all things vaginal!!!!!!!!
I may even try both ways, see whats the best value for money*grin*
I will post my results on the forum and give my 2cents worth,plus the cell numbers of any little "Mahals" i meet. I am open to any more suggestions as well
Cheers mate
aussietoy
I agree with Thaipan, Cubao is good find but only for the adventurous. I would bring a local definately. I forgot the sreet name but its nearby the Arenetta Coliseum off Aurora Blvd. The girls are a mix batch with gems if you look hard enough. They also tend to run cheaper then roxas and makati but it caters to the local clientel. The places can be a bit shady and not so nice. I once saw a rat climb the curtains at one place.
I think P2000 may be too much for that area, but if you had a real looker what the hell!
happy hunting guys
amboy812, she was a looker, one of the best I have seen in the Philippines and yes 2000 was probably too high but what the hell I had a ball!
Onward and upwards!
Thaipan
hi guys, I need information these hotels in Manila/Makati area.
I'm planing to stay at Hotel New World Rennaisance or mandarin Oriental on busines + leisure of cos.
Are these hotels guest friendly? do they charge a joiner fee?
Any recommendations for bars and bj bars around these hotels?? thks in advance..
[QUOTE]Originally posted by freestyler69
[i]hi guys, I need information these hotels in Manila/Makati area.
I'm planing to stay at Hotel New World Rennaisance or mandarin Oriental on busines + leisure of cos.
Are these hotels guest friendly? do they charge a joiner fee?
Any recommendations for bars and bj bars around these hotels?? thks in advance.. [/i][/QUOTE]
Most of the hotels are guest friendly though some have signs saying no guests after a certain time.
Try EDSA Complex or Chaos on Roxas Blvd but be careful, taxi drivers will try to rip you off and Manila is not the safest place to walk aroung after dark if you are on your own!
Thaipan
I just stayed at the Heritage in Pasay across from the EDSA complex. $70 a nite if you reserve on the Internet (www.hotelsandflights.com) and you can cancel up tp 2pm the same day. Great servcie, food is expensive except for Sunday Brunch which is a must. Go around the corner to Burgerking and Wendy's if you want to save. 1000P barfine, 1500P to 2500P for the tip/. You really need to be clear as to how long they'll stay and what they'll do. Only one asked how much she was getting up front. I said 1500P not so good 2000P good 2500P all nite and great. She left with 1500P. Chaos is close by about a 40P drive but you might want to leave tip. The doorman will work with the cabbies out front unless you ask for a metered cab. Then they'll flag one down in the pullup section. Cabbie wil still try not to use the meter. Threaten to get out if he doesn't. They ALL double and triple charge otherwise. Going to Harrison Plaza, Airpot, Glorietta Mall, LA Cafe are all under 70P normally but they'll charge 150P tp 200P without a meter. It's up to you on what you want to pay and tip. It is still pretty cheap. Going to Angeles City by Taxi is 1200Pto 1500P with 1500P being normal. I can give a number of a pretty decent Taxi driver that speaks very good English and can hold a conversation and tell you a little about the Manila. The Heritagee is friendly to visitors no matter what hour. The girls will have to check in though. I had one without ID so I told them she was my friend, gave them my room number and kept walking and they backed down, and nothing happened. Also I beleive I was the only American staying there at the time. Lots of Japanese and Koreans. Nice pool that nobody used but me. The gym was being remodled. Hope this helps. It was nice to only have to walk (or run) across the street to EDSA complex. Great Executive Spa that caters to Asians doen the road same side as EDSA comples. Sauna, body wash, and massage. Takes 2 hours. No sex but only 650P plus a tip to the massage girl and the cutie that gives you a body wash. That's less than $20 dollars US and your ready for the night.
hi guys, I need information these hotels in Manila/Makati area.
I'm planing to stay at Hotel New World Rennaisance or mandarin Oriental on busines + leisure of cos.
Are these hotels guest friendly? do they charge a joiner fee?
Any recommendations for bars and bj bars around these hotels?? thks in advance..
BOMBING IN MANILA:
[url]http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?click_id=3&art_id=qw1034955541545B214&set_id=1[/url]
Best advise would be to use cabs or private drivers when traveling around town. If you hear any shooting grab a girl and head for the hotel. Make sure you have a fully stocked minibar and plenty of condoms.
...(prog)
Progman....thanx for the tip. Heard about the bombing and also the protests at USA embassy last monday. I will be in Manila this Wednesday night. Have read posts about escort services in Magazines/newspapers...can anyway recommend any agency? I think home delivery(or hotel delivery) maybe the safest bet at this stage. I love pussy, and will not allow anyone even terrorists and nut cases scare me away. My cock is useful to me, and to the lady, but only if its attached.....i don't want old Mr Wiggly to be separated from me by a pile of C4.
Or if i can find a taxi driver i can trust, just go out for a short time and grab the first little swollowing piece that tickles my fancy and get me some take home hairpie for my hotel, and proceed to give and receive real room service.
Happy to listen to the advice/opinions of more experinced travellers hear. My hotel does have on-call massuese's, but its a P1000 to get them 2 your room, then you have to negotiate.
aussietoy
I wouldnt worry too much about the bombings, but to be on the safe side, if you will go out, I guess you should avoid Burgos where predominantly only foreigners frequent. The Roxas Blvd area or the QC area would probably be safer. MPs probably wont be targetted either. Anyway, clubs in Roxas or Quezon City probably would cost a little more but the quality is better. Bar Fines would be a killer though but if you really like the girl maybe taking her to a private room would satisfy your thirst.
Anyway, try to stay from crowded places and restrict yourselves to using taxis.
thks thaipan,
I doubt anywhere will be within walking distance from these 2 hotels, or probably i shall stay in Shangrila instead. I usually have someone(business associates) fetch me and i do rent a car with driver while in Manila but sometimes it's not convenient to be tracked of your movements..:)) so if there's something within walking distance, will be good!
If I would like to pick up some college or Uni students/ part timers where shall i go?? which shopping/or and particular joint?? The lastime i was there i met with a gals in the shopping mall and got 3 mnights of free fuck..and it's damn good!..
qcboy and freestyler,
Just arrived in Manila for 3 weeks for business. Let me know if you guys want to hook up for some drinks. I'm staying in Makati.
Sajora
Freestyler,
Shangrila has a decent happy hour that sometimes attrachs semi pro's. TGI Fridays is a decent pick up spot also and it is walking distance. But with taxi's so damn cheap, why limit yourself ?
outtolunch,
I know who you are....
I posted this before, but with bombings in Manila it might be useful again:
Here's the number to my guide in Manila/Makati - 0917 414 5416, his name's Jay R and he has a full range of services for the hobbyist - whether it's outcall or incall or legit transporation service. If you're feeling lazy and you don't wanna leave your hotel he'll bring around girls for your viewing and keep on bringing them until you pick one. If you want to go exploring he'll take you to all the spots along Roxas blvd or QC and get you hooked up that way. As far as transportation, he's a taxi driver also so if u need to go to AC he'll hook u up with that. If you wanna go target shooting or whatever he knows where - he's a guide after all. The guy's safe, I've been using him for 2 years and he's always gotten me back to my hotel no matter what level of drunkenness I managed to get myself into.
Here's some pricing to go by:
Stanford Street clubs in Cubao like Bartolina - around 1500 or so to bang one of their strippers in the vip room, one shot deal.
JayR's "angels" - 3k for an allnighter
Bautista Street Casas - 3k for an allnighter, 2.5k if you haggle
Roxas and QC ktv - 5k upward for an allnighter all inclusive- this can get steep- when I go into Manila with a fat wallet I've gone in upwards of 15k for one chick ...I only did this once, the chick was a gorgeous starlet with small roles in 2 movies to her credit (one of which I've actually seen) and I was drunk and horny for her - that was a good investment though, like most of them if you treat them like normal people they'll probably stick around for free until you send them away. I banged this chick to high heaven for 4 days free, she even brought food on some occassions and got me some load for my cel phone. I heard some old military fart knocked her up and she's out of the scene, tough luck.
I don't frequent Burgos or Malate much although I'll drop by that L.A. cafe and check that out one of these days.
When I have time to kill I usually hang out at Robinson's mall in Malate, lots of student types there.
If the prices seem steep I can't help you with that, my friends and I go by the motto "you get what you pay for" - although we do try to get it as cheap as we can =). Personally I think it's cheap in Manila compared to Amsterdam or the Americas and comparable to Thailand.
Hope that helps some.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Firedick
[i]Freestyler,
Shangrila has a decent happy hour that sometimes attrachs semi pro's. TGI Fridays is a decent pick up spot also and it is walking distance. But with taxi's so damn cheap, why limit yourself ?
outtolunch,
I know who you are.... [/i][/QUOTE]
So you know who I am Firedick... just don't tell Hillary, OK?
Out...
Your secret is safe with me ! One thing though, Monica ?....
Hi guys, anybody checked out Spirits coyote bar on Nakpil St, Malate? They have girls that dance on the bars. Rumors have it you can get take out too. Just wondering if anyone knows whats the 411 on this place too.
Also heard that many of the upper scale Roxas bars sell E in the clubs and that the girls really get off on that stuff. Any info on that?
has anyone heard about the 8th floor of Grand Boulevard Hotel? Someone told me that there's an MP there? Has anyone tried it out?
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Firedick
[i]Out...
Your secret is safe with me ! One thing though, Monica ?.... [/i][/QUOTE]
FD, I'll never do that fat B***h again..... Not since you showed me the lights of Angeles City. I'm now moving my office from New York to AC. BTW, how do you become a citizen of the Philippines and when is the Presidential election there? Time to start my campaign. My headquarters will be next to Shadows Bar.
salmingold,
The MP at Grand Blvd Hotel is at the 3rd flr, not the 8th. No further info.
genius,
How much would you spend at Grand Boulevard Hotel?
Can anybody give tips on how to find girls in malls? I have heard some saying that they stay in malls to pick up girls. Im assuming most of these guys are foreigners. Are there any locals who have tried these same things in the malls? Please do give some info from both foreigners and locals. Procedure, location and price please.
Thanks.
QC boy,,
I found an old posting of mine that has relevance to your question:
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By marconista on Thursday, November 29, 2001 - 04:59 pm:
One guy informed about picking up girls at the shopping malls like Harrison Plaza.
I never tried to pick up one of the beautiful girls working in the perfume-section of ShoeMart, but will try next time. One of the girls in the perfume-section remembered me the second time I was there (7 months apart). She was a 6. So being a non-pilipino, makes them remember you
However - I did meet some girls in Harrison Plaza. There are in fact a lot of girls wandering around on the second level. Best time is on a sunday afternoon. Then also young "schoolgirls" are hunting for their meal-tickets. They are much better than the ordinary hookers that hang around inside the H plaza.
I finally agreed on PhP.1.000,- with this 19 year old girl (she showed me her ID), she was a 4-5. But she was very eager to please me when back at Westin Philippine Plaza. By the way, they were two girls together when I met them, and they wanted both to go with me. I asked if they would do some girlie-things as well, but then they hesitated. I guess that if I had increased the amount, they would have done whatever I asked.
She had to leave me at 9pm (as she told me in advance), since she had to go home to the family.
This just to add some info on the malls.
Unquote
Best of luck...
Thanks for replying but I was looking more to girls in the range of 7 upwards. Anyway it would be interesting to take a look over there some time. Thanks for the info though.
As for the SM girls, it would be easier for foreigners to attract those girls, I think.
does anyone remember raymonds bar in ermita and is there anywhere like this nowadays thanks
Hi
Just a quick question to you all.
I'm an English guy living in Thailand and am tempted to try the Philippines for a few days.
I have heard good reports on Angeles but I don't fancy that 4 hour transfer by road.
1) Can anyone recommend a good, good value for money Manilla hotel close to the best action.
2) Where is the best action in this city?
3) any bad points about Manilla I should Know.
Many thanks Guys& Best regards.
Jon
jonsintown
for starters AC if you travel late at night or early morning is only 1 1/2 hours from manila,next you can fly there from manila using seaair for a 35 minute flight.there are several action places in metro manila,makati,quezon city,pasay city are all in metro manila,for a newbie get somebody like jay r look up the past posts regatrds
Jon,
Cebu is a nice guy. I will be a little more blunt. Questions are welcome, even encouraged here. But as a newbie, you should at least go over past post. The search function makes it easy for specific questions.
Don't be lazy !
"Bad points in Manila" could fill a book. But it's primarily common sense stuff. Don't walk alone/drunk at night. Don't carry more cash than you can easily give up, etc etc...
If your budget can handle it, as a first timer, you might want to consider the Heritage Hotel (EDSA at Roxas). The "Complex" is right across the street.
FD
Firedick, I agree that newbies should at least look at the recent posts but you have to think that questions would be repeated, if not we would have nothing more to talk about. Lets face it. We just keep on repeating the same old stuff anyway because it is rare that new spots are created. We should encourage questions. Maybe something new will pop out.
All,
Here's a new question: Where can I find a good restaurant in Manila that serves Mexican and Arabic food? ...just kidding.
I think a lot of the basic “newbie" questions have been asked repeatedly over time. I, myself, have done that when I was just getting into the "hobby" but there are still many areas that can be discussed. I primarily visit Angeles City and have found that things change all the time there.
New owners or managers can affect the tempo and feeling of a bar. Mamasans move from one bar to another and take a dozen girls with them. What was once a great bar this week could now be dead the following week. A suggestion I would make is to bring up these deltas from time to time. For example - if a particular bar has been cheating customers, or if certain bars have high concentrations of runners we should talk about them.
Guys should be submitting condensed trip reports - those are always fun to read (especially from the newbies). Just a suggestion…
qc boy,
I was in Ermita at the Robinson's Mall back in January. It was around 6:00 PM and I was sitting at the Starbuck's Coffee shop reading a newspaper. I had 3 girls approach me within 20 minutes. All were at least a 7 in my book. Since I have a Philippine cell phone I took their numbers. I called one of them a few months ago and had a great time with her. Basically, if you're not Filipino and you're walking around the malls in the evening the girls will approach you.
Location: Robinson's Mall is a block inland from the Palm Plaza Hotel (near Roxas Blvd).
Price: I offered the girl 1000p but she only took 100p for taxi.
Looks: This girl was at least an 8 but was very, very young. I should have asked for ID but didn't. She said she was 18 but I would venture to guess she might have been 16 or 17.
7 days and a wake-up!
...(prog)
prog
thought i would not be able to answer that question did you,persian kebab on makati avenue beside burgos has a mexican restaurant called miggys below it,seriously i like challenging questions,but the newbie ones can sometimes be a drag,that is why they can just give jay r a call which will be my standard answer for basic newbie questions
hi guys
can anyone tell me if jayr's angels is worth the buck
are they really pretty and have a good attitude??
tnx hope to hear from you soon
Re my newbie Manila question.
Thanks, Cebu local and Qc for your feedback.
Helpful to know the posts I have read on Manila are
fairly reliable in consistency.
Regards.
nativeboy
jay r's angels vary depending on who's available, looks department they range from 5-7. give him a call 0917 414 5416 and ask him about it, he's a cool guy he'll hook you up.
Have Fun!
cebu local,
Hahaha... You've got to be kidding! I tried to come up with a question that couldn't be answered. I'm going to have to try that place out next time I have a layover in Manila. I owe you a beer for that response so WHEN I see you in Angeles the first couple rounds are on me...
6 days and a wake-up!
...(prog)
mga tols sama ako diyan, i'll be in town nov 24 - dec 1 if anyone is hunting in the metro manila area around that time and want to check out some chika babes game ako.
bederezi@aol.com
Hey fellas
Anyone ever been to Blue Palm? Saw their ad for massage services in the classifieds and they offer a Turkish Bath. In some of the Southeast Asian countries I've been to, a Turkish bath is usually an indicator of a full service place. I think this place is near Santa Mesa or something.
Last Friday went to Megamall around 6pm. While walking there I noticed a very pretty young Filipina. Something in the way she presented herself really caught my attention. Just out of curiosity I waited until she gets out of the shop and smiled at her. She returned the smile. That gave me enough encouragement to go further and say hi. I'm usually not that great in meeting ladies like this, but in this case that was relatively easy. We had a cup of coffee and after breaking the ice we took a cab to one of the numerous Pasig motels. The fact that we did it in the motel somehow diminished the pleasure of this encounter, but still it was an experience to remember. I guess, I had realized that in order for me to really enjoy this hobby, it's essential not only to get various ladies but also to get them in various ways.
Just a thought to share.
Cheers
HRC, are you a local or a foreigner. Thats quite an interesting encounter you had there. Thats something that I really want to experience. I just dont have the guts to do it, and even if I did, I dont know how I can even bring up sex to a person I just met.
qc boy, I'm a foreigner and I'm not sure if this is to my advantage or not in our hobby. I think I get a bit overcharged in bars and massage parlors, but at the same time it seems easier to pick up freelancers.
Progman...i agree, got back from Manila 2 days ago. I was sitting at Startbucks at Robinson Mall in Ermita, and i collected 4 numbers, one was a GRO and gave me her card, the other's were students, alot of talent too. The girls in the mall are always smiling as your walk past, bit like a smorgasbord with me as the main course but i didn't mind. Starbucks is a great place just for a perve if nothing else, lots of eye candy walking past.
My last night in Manila i went a got a girl from Japlac Bar just of UN avenue. P2000 bar fine and most of the girls where only 6 or 7's. Place was empty at 8.00pm so i had my pick, a 21 yr old from Cebu. If you can't be bothered bar crawling and paying extortionate rate for drinks, Japlac was alright. Nice and clean by the looks of things, i basically got the girl and got back to the hotel. Not a bad shag, but she had sharp teeth!!!!!
One friend took me to a bar called the Ritz in San Fernando in Pampanga, about 15 km south of Angeles, very nice KTV lounge, but the woman weren't much, avoid this place is my advice, unless you only interested in singing.
There you go, the experience of the inexperienced.
Hmmm... I must try that some time. Maybe it will work for me too. Who knows? I might get lucky.
Aussietoy, how old were the students you mentioned? How exactly did they approach you and at what time were you there at starbucks. Doesnt hurt to try if you ask me.
qc boy....the age varied. 2 of them were mid twenties, 24 and 26, nice around the bust area. One was 19 and the other i don't know, definately at college so i would say between 17 and 21. iwas there about 11am to 2pm. I do prefer girls with more experience (the hookers in Melbourne are great, but as for value for money, give me the Phillipines), the young have there charm, but i am lazy when on holidays and i hate to instruct-the older girls that know the business allow may to lay back and enjoy the ride. no pun intended! okay, pun intended!!!!
2 girls sitting down outside starbucks waiting for a friend, and said hi and i offered to buy them a coffee, and iced latte as it was so hot!!!!! Great ice breaker. Ended up invinting them to the Octoberfest party outside Holiday Inn, and the 2 of them ended up in my room. Not a bad way to spend an evening.
Uniforms give most of the college girls away, a group of pharmacolgy students was always studying there, but inside so while good to perve at, nothing happening. I am a smoker so i am always outside Starbucks, but not outside the mall. If i was more engergetic, i reckon i would hav done better, but in the end nothing to complain about! The girls where always smiling, a bit of dutch courgage could go along way if you are reserved. Cheers
Any news on Sky MP in Recto?
I miss my main squeeze there... names Aileen :(
She seem to have lost her cp too...
Coming to Philippines for first time next week for about 3 days. Would like to get together with a few others as this will be my first time. How does it compare to say Bangkok which I have gone to twice now?
Will be in Philippines and Manila next week. Will be first time and looking to meet up with others and also find out where to find girls who speak Spanish (my language). Lastly, out of curiosity what is GRO? Thanks.
@seoulmac
a gro is a guest relations officer. its just another term for hostess.
if you are looking for working girls who speak spanish, you will have to look long and hard. most of the ladies of the night here can speak some english and some japanese.
the only crowd that tends to still speak spanish are the people from the old rich or "castilaloy" families and descendants of the spaniards who decided to make a home here. it will not be easy at all to pick up someone from that mostly elite crowd, unless you are suave like james bond >:)
quick thought, but anyone fancy a new entertainment concept, KFCTV.
Where you get beer, girls, singing...............
............. and Fried Chicken.
BTW Taiwan is shite.
must do classmates in December, seen some piccies.
Happy hunting
outtolunch,
Where are you ? I wish I was there you lucky bastard !
FD
[QUOTE]Originally posted by lalake
[...] when they see whitey (not a racial remark) coming in the door, they do everthing they can to get all the money out of you. [...]
True, but if you've lived there for any significant time you'll know your way around and unless you find some glorious reason for feeling "rich" some night you can still wake up very happy with some 8 or 9 rateable nice company for between P300-P500 (or even free "for love"). You just have to know your way around; it's not that hard to do! Read some of the older postings to find out how.
Just one word of caution, learned the hard way even though I should definately know better (which I may get around to posting about sometime) ... don't get to complacent or trusting. The "friend" of your friend's friend may be someone they don't know very well at all. If you have them over you may wake up poorer than you expected.
this board sucks nowadays...
try http://www.manilatonight.com
Question for GROpapa... this is my first post but ive been browsing the board for a while. I'll be in manila next month and im keen to hook up with JR. have you used his services recently? How do you rate his girls at the moment? Ive used other people in the past but from what ive seen on this board your recommendations seem to be worth following up. I'll be happy to post again after my trip with any worthwhile stories :) regards
from the Flying Scotsman. Ive enjoyed reading your posts.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by flying scotsman
[i]Question for GROpapa... this is my first post but ive been browsing the board for a while. I'll be in manila next month and im keen to hook up with JR. have you used his services recently? How do you rate his girls at the moment? Ive used other people in the past but from what ive seen on this board your recommendations seem to be worth following up. I'll be happy to post again after my trip with any worthwhile stories :) regards
from the Flying Scotsman. Ive enjoyed reading your posts. [/i][/QUOTE]
Scotsman,
The last time I used Jay R's(09174145416) services was back in late November 2002, I mainly used him as a guide to take me to the various KTVs so I can barfine a girl out of there and back to the hotel safely. On one occassion in that trip he did drop off a girl that he was giving a ride to, she worked at a KTV and looked like GRO calibre so I was able to bypass the barfine on that one.
My 5 buddies and I are heading into Manila all of February, I already notified Jay R so he'll be on the lookout for fresh meat - this might benefit you :)
I'll make sure to let him go and service customers from this site, I'm so well known at those KTVs now I might as well be a guide hehe.
Many thanks again GROpapa.... I'll be sure to give JR a call when i get to Manila. Have a great time yourself...but try to leave some for me :)
Hi GROpapa,
I'll be back in Manila mid march so make sure you post before then as to the quality, quantity and cost of JR's latest crop of goodies as I plan to make use of some of them!
Thaipan
GROpapa,
What is JR's fee for driving you around barhopping or bringing girls to your hotel room?
Hi Everyone....Long time lurker , first time poster . Kudos to all the guys who take the time to share the info we are all after, especially Jackson, Cebu Local, and ******* . You da men !!!!
I'm a 51 year old fat, beer drinking, blue collar American guy, probably a typical hobbiest, winging my way to Manila on February 21. Staying at the Heritage Hotel for 3 days, hope to see EDSA complex and Makati, and then on to Cebu on Tuesday the 25th. Staying at the Cebu Marriot for the first 2 nights, and after that the decks are clear till I have to go home March 8th. I have a few ladies to see but I would love to meet up with anyone from the board at any time .
Thanks again for all the info that was critical to me in planning this trip. Anyone interested can reach me at tpdtom@yahoo.com
Tom
Regarding Jay R's services:
He has no fixed fee, it's up to your discretion. Personally after a full night of KTV bar hopping and eventual pick up of a chick I tip him a 500 peso bill - he did after all drive me around and guided me around for several hours.
As far as the girls that he brings for house calls - they cost 3k Pesos allnighter - again..his tip is at your discretion.
Considering a taxi here in L.A. cost 60 bucks to get from LAX to my house I don't mind giving Jay R a 500(9 bucks) peso bill for his taxi and guide services...that's just common courtesy I think.
GROpapa,
I have been in Phils some time. I can assure you that when you pay 3K to a girl , JR is getting about half in 'commission'. All in he makes 500 for your tip plus 1500, toal 2000 Peso per session with you. In Phils he is on big time. Sounds like you need to cut out the 'middle man' JR!
Just do sneak out with the Burgos girls (after hours meeting) and pay them 1000. Indeed choose a really nice one and meet them next day someplace. So easy and only about 1000. Save you money for more and better!
Hi Guys.
I shall be in Makati in mid Feb for 5 nights.
Please can you tell me where the best place is at the moment to pick up a normal non pro? Any in bars/clubs would be welcome. I arrive Friday evening so will have no time to check the place out. I am staying in the Peninsula and am 32.
Also, what are the current Best places for the TOP end girls.
Is it still Jools, LA Cafe and bottoms.
Hope you can help.
fastpiston,
gotta put Jay R to work ya know :) he does have a family to feed.
I know what he makes, after all he's a friend of mine. He does work hard for his money and I appreciate that so I look at it as a contribution to his family ( my 500 tip and the split he gets from the 3k).
In the States it costs anywhere between $40 to 75 to get from my house to the airport. In the Philippines it costs $60 to get to heaven without leaving the comforts of my place, and I'm also helping feed someone's family. Can't beat that with a baseball bat.
To any hobbyists coming to the Philippines or to any other country - wouldn't you agree that great customer service is key to a fun trip? well in my book Jay R provides great customer service so he deserves a good tip just like any other service employee who depends on commission to make a living.
Jay R 09174145416 :)
Hi guys, further to GROpapa's post, i think JRs service sounds ideal. I've been ripped off by escort services in Manila before and I'll certainly be giving JR a try out in a couple weeks time. I'll also be writing a report on his services to let everyone know how things go. God i wish it was this week...!!
Does anyone know if the Century Citadel in Makati is girl friendly? Seems like a nice setup .. right in the middle of the action. Appreciate any info on this.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by longwayne
[i]Coming to Philippines for first time next week for about 3 days. Would like to get together with a few others as this will be my first time. How does it compare to say Bangkok which I have gone to twice now? [/i][/QUOTE]
Very similar. Price range a bit cheaper. Alot cheaper if you go to Angeles City. Number of quality looking girls is lower, but some gems are around. English/Conversation is easier. Bangkok has more to do during down time (more shops, temples, better restaurants) and more options .. Karaoke, Massage, High end Clubs, Soapies, Free Lancers, Specialty Places like Edens, etc. PI is primarily Bars, KTV, Massage, and Freelancers. I prefer BKK, but others will swear by the GFE in the PI. I personally have gotten better GFE in BKK .. not sure if my being Asian has any impact. I hope this helps.
Asiatraveler2,
The Century Citadel in Makati IS girl friendly. In fact, ALL hotels in the Philippines is girl friendly (unlike Thailand or China). You should also register for 2 persons (Mr & Mrs) since the rate for single and double occupancy is the same.
You can also book a lot of PI hotels using www.asiatravel.com whose prices are among the lowest, even calling direct to the hotel.
You mentioned BKK has Soapies/Massage & High End Clubs while omitting these from Manila. I would like to point out that in the Metro Manila massage parlors, you can enjoy a different type of BM (Body Massage) with the girl using Baby Oil instead of soap. This is more sensual and more hot than the wet soapy massage. You can even do this with 2 girls (Twin Service).
For high end nightclubs, the prettiest girls are at La Legende, Pegasus, Lexus, & Classmates in Quezon City.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by genuis8
[i]Asiatraveler2,
The Century Citadel in Makati IS girl friendly. You can also book a lot of PI hotels using www.asiatravel.com.
** Genuis8 .. use asiatravel.com alot. Thanks .. already know about them.
I would like to point out that in the Metro Manila massage parlors, you can enjoy a different type of BM (Body Massage) with the girl using Baby Oil instead of soap. This is more sensual and more hot than the wet soapy massage. You can even do this with 2 girls (Twin Service).
** Genuis8 .. Thanks for the info. Last time, all I got was a basic oil massage. Good, but not quite as nice as a body to body. Where do they have this service?
For high end nightclubs, the prettiest girls are at La Legende, Pegasus, Lexus, & Classmates in Quezon City. [/i][/QUOTE]
** Are these girls all for hire? The high end clubs that I was referring to in Bangkok, are clubs set up to barfine the girls. They have a disco, karaoke rooms, stage show, private rooms, bar, the whole nine yards. I know about Jewels, but it's not quite the same. Are the clubs you are referring to discos or all working girls? Thanks again for the info.
Asiatraveler2,
In any massage parlor that extra service (i.e. FS), you can ask the masseuse to give you a body massage using baby oil, before proceeding to the main course. It might also be a new experience for her.
Regarding high end clubs like Legende, Pegasus, here are the details. They are both along Quezon Avenue in Quezon City. They both have showgirls (solo, and group models) and GRO (regular hostesses) who will keep you company at the table for a set hourly fee. They also have VIP rooms with Karaoke machines, if you wish to sign. These 2 clubs also have a show where girls will dance sexily or sometimes nude.
You can barfine a girl from these places. Just let the FM (Floor Manager) know that you want to barfine someone tonight. She will point out who will go out with you that evening, and you make your choice. Sometimes, the FM will ask you to choose someone and they will tell you if the girl will or will not barfine.
Pegasus: Barfine for GRO ... about P8,000 (US$160). Barfine for Model/Solo ... P12,000 (US$240). You will also be expected to sit down with her at your table for 1 hour's worth of billing, even if you leave in 15 minutes.
Legende: Barfine for all girls is broken down into 3 elements, but will add up to no more than P7,500. Plus 1 hour worth of tabling the girl.
Table Charge: Legende = P730/hr. Pegasus = P880/P990 per hour.
I prefer Legende, not only because they have a bigger selection of the prettiest girls, but also because of the standardized pricing.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by genuis8
[i]Asiatraveler2,
Regarding high end clubs like Legende, Pegasus, here are the details ... I prefer Legende, not only because they have a bigger selection of the prettiest girls, but also because of the standardized pricing. [/i][/QUOTE]
genuis8;
Appreciate the info. Prices a bit high by Phillipines standards, but if they have top of the line girls, I don't mind paying that. Thanks!
to Genius8....
just wandering where exactly are these massage parlors (and the names) which offers body massge...whether its oil or soap...?
many thanks.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by travelmen
[i]Hi Guys.
I shall be in Makati in mid Feb for 5 nights.
Please can you tell me where the best place is at the moment to pick up a normal non pro? Any in bars/clubs would be welcome. I arrive Friday evening so will have no time to check the place out. I am staying in the Peninsula and am 32.
Also, what are the current Best places for the TOP end girls.
Is it still Jools, LA Cafe and bottoms.
Hope you can help. [/i][/QUOTE]
Try any where in the EDSA Complex and also Chaos in Roxas Blvd. Happy hunting!
Thaipan
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Asiatraveler2
[i]genuis8;
Appreciate the info. Prices a bit high by Phillipines standards, but if they have top of the line girls, I don't mind paying that. Thanks! [/i][/QUOTE]
It sounds like highway robbery by PI standards!
Thaipan
[QUOTE]Originally posted by GROpapa
[i]fastpiston,
gotta put Jay R to work ya know :) he does have a family to feed.
I know what he makes, after all he's a friend of mine. He does work hard for his money and I appreciate that so I look at it as a contribution to his family ( my 500 tip and the split he gets from the 3k).
In the States it costs anywhere between $40 to 75 to get from my house to the airport. In the Philippines it costs $60 to get to heaven without leaving the comforts of my place, and I'm also helping feed someone's family. Can't beat that with a baseball bat.
To any hobbyists coming to the Philippines or to any other country - wouldn't you agree that great customer service is key to a fun trip? well in my book Jay R provides great customer service so he deserves a good tip just like any other service employee who depends on commission to make a living.
Jay R 09174145416 :) [/i][/QUOTE]
Frankly I think it sounds the ideal solution to some of the safety issues about travelling around manila on your own after dark. I'm 6'4, can look after myself and have travelled a lot and I mean a lot, but there is something down right scarry about the walk (even though it is only about 400 metres) from Traders Hotel in pasay to Chaos along that unlit service road, it gives me the creeps I can tell you.
G'day,
As regular visitor to the Philippines I am always interested in
hearing about a different club, bar or a new source of quality ladies
to meet and peruse such as the ones provided by J Ray.
Just as a matter interest, can of you mongerers out there
who have sampled some of J Ray's female wares provide some names,
physical descriptions and performance details so I have a prospective
lady's name to ask for when I am next in Manila town and require some
quality relief from my medical problem of MSUP (massive sperm build up)!!!
Thanks in advance.
Cheers and beers,
Osakagin.
Thaipan,
The rates of P6,000 - 12,000 are for Top-of-the-line girls and are not a rip-off by any standards. A rip-off is when you got cheated or got bad value for your money. With these places you know the prices up front, and your selection of pretty club girls. They are by no means cheap. In fact, these are EXPENSIVE.
How would feel if you can get Cindy Crawford or Cathy Ireland or a supermodel level beauty for US$1,000 a night in the USA. Expensive, but worth it, if you can afford it. YOU CAN, probably just not everyday, but at least once a year, on your birthday, you can treat yourself to this.
If you want to discuss higher prices, there are real College Girls from exclusive Catholic Schools that sometimes moonlight on the side. These are prime goods of supermodel quality in looks, body, AND brain. The cost? Around P15,000 - 20,000 for a night.
It all depends on what you feel like spending at any given time. In the PI, there is good fun at ALL LEVELS, which is why I like it.
Sorry to say this but EDSA complex and Chaos are Low End. If you are caucasian and like darker skinned girls, you will definitely prefer these places for the girls "exotic to you" look. Different strokes for different folks.
Potter,
In Makati, try the Imperial Sauna/Health Club located along Makati Avenue. If you are walking in the vicinity of Burgos St (which crosses Makati Ave), it is the vicinity.
All MPs with extra service can provide you with oil body massage. Just ask your masseuse that that's what you like as foreplay before proceeding to the main course.
Imperial will probably cost you P1,500 for the session and P1,500 tip for the girl for FS.
Hello fellow seXXXventurers!
I have been lurking in this forum for almost a week now just reading the posts and I'm amazed at all the valuable information floating around here. I'm glad that I can fall back on my fellow natural-born gigolo brothers here and share some really excellent information with y'all.
Genius8. How you doing Bro.
I just like to know where you can find these Cindy Crawford model-like Collegialas you're talking about. Where should I hang out and what should I do. I got a few Dollas$$ (albeit enough when converted to pesos) to accomodate some of these beauties. Appreciate the follow-up.
Kru_Zader,
I am embarassed to admit that I lost the contact number of this pimp that supplies the college girls. If I am in the PI, I can locate him by hanging out at certain places where I know he hangs out for clientele.
If you want the supermodel looks, and dont care whether they are college educated or ivy league school girls, and have a few dollars to burn, I would suggest the following:
Go to Quezon Avenue in Quezon City and check out these 2 clubs: PEGASUS and LA LEGENDE. From Manila, you will hit Pegasus frist, then La Legende a few blocks after. Pegasus is more expensive and Legende is a better value for money. I assume you are interested in barfining (taking out the girl for the night) to sleep at your hotel w/ you.
Pegasus: Barfine costs approximately P8,000 for GROs and P12,000 for models/solo-dancers. There is a showroom you can choose from. Let the Floor Manager know you want to barfine, and she will either tell you who will (that night) or you choose and she will tell you if your choice will barfine. Add to that the cost to sit (table) the girl for 1 hour (P880 or P990). You can leave right away but still need to pay the 1 hour table cost.
Legende: Barfine is standard for all girls. Tell the Floor Manager, and she will arrange it, based on your choice. The cost of barfine is broken into 3 components: P5,000 for the girl (payable to the mamasan), P1,000 for the house, plus P240 for each hour from your departure until 3:00AM closing time. Total will not exceed P7,500. In addition, 1 hour table charge (P730) is added. Ask for DOLLY as your Floor Manager.
In both cases, you are expected to tip the Floor Manager. Give him/her P500.
Both of these clubs have massage parlors in their premises, but the quality is much lower than the club girls. A lot of today's PI bold (sexy/nude) starlets came from these clubs.
hi..hate to add this..but theres a site with much more info.. namely manilatonight.com.. ok ..theres a lot of tagalog and lot of taglish but if its manila info you want..with some reviews, of KTVs MPs all over this city.. go see it. ITs more detailed than here and has a good local flavour. If you understand tagalog or even just some words... you will get the jist of it. It will give you a broader choice of manila..than our board here which is primarily for us foreigners and baliks...
Just a quick note for guys new to this board...a month or so back someone posted the info for a website called "www.face-pic.com"
Id just like to say that im gonna be in PI from mid feb for a month and ive already got several girls lined up, two that ive already chatted with on the phone, all under 23..!! I also use the bars & escort services but just thought id share this one with you all. I'll write up later to let you know how it goes.
Anyone wanting to meet up for a beer, just e-mail me at dave@mymail.ph
keep up the great work guys..!!
Manila Tonight is a good site, but they do prattle on a bit..!! When you need real info, nothing beats this board.. in my opinion :)
Filipino kills friend for laughing at his penis
MANILA: A 40-year-old man was killed in the Philippines for laughing at his buddy's penis and refusing to show his during a drinking spree, a police officer said yesterday.
Police officer Joseph Pueblo said Eduardo Cristomar was shot dead on Wednesday by Arnel Orbeta in a village in Antipolo City, 30km east of Manila.
Pueblo said the two men and their friends were having a drinking party when the victim challenged all to show their penis to determine who had the longest and widest organ.
“A drunken Orbeta immediately unzipped his pants and showed his sex organ,” he said. “Cristomar laughed at Orbeta instead of showing his penis, infuriating the suspect.”
Orbeta then pulled out his gun and shot the victim.
Pueblo said police were looking for Orbeta who fled after the incident.
hey, where is everyone. all gone to manila tonight..???? !!!
well im going next week so wait for the reports..gonna try a few new sources this time. guys we miss the reports........
Flying Scotsman,
I agree with you about Manila Tonight. High on quantity but not much substance.
Do you have an email address while you're in Manila?
Jock
Hi jock, sure u can contact me at dave@mymail.ph get in touch if you fancy a few san migs...im in manila from 12 feb.
To Flying scotsman and Jock,
Im in Makati until the 14th, then back to Toronto. Email me if you guys want to go for beers as well - ilongoboy@hotmail.com
Cheers.
it is Thursday evening... now i am in Manila... I arrived yesterday from Bangkok.... but was too tired to do anything... i had a quite intensive and lovely stay in bkk what sapped my energy level.
I will be leaving tomorrow.... so this is my last nite... i want to go out... after all it will be pity not go out at least once in manila...
I am in pasay city and torn between two options....
I like Genius8's suggestion of La Lagende... but it is quite far from here.... edsa complex is close and nearby and i was in general happy ... many folks here seem to say that this is a really low end....
what shoud i do.....I will keep posted on my decision and let u know how it went...
Would any of you guys marry a pretty girl working temporary at a highend club or ktv who is a college student? I mean it's so easy to ask these girls out and so tempting to pursue a relationship if they are very pretty and have a good head in their shoulders. I think if you are picky about girls with good background, it's best to ask girls out who work in a restricted place that doesn't allow them to go out with clients via barfine. So you know that they work in places that's a little decent. Overall, it depends on the girls. I met some who only make money by tabling with clients and not go out with them for paid sex.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by genuis8
[i]Kru_Zader,
I am embarassed to admit that I lost the contact number of this pimp that supplies the college girls. If I am in the PI, I can locate him by hanging out at certain places where I know he hangs out for clientele.
If you want the supermodel looks, and dont care whether they are college educated or ivy league school girls, and have a few dollars to burn, I would suggest the following:
Go to Quezon Avenue in Quezon City and check out these 2 clubs: PEGASUS and LA LEGENDE. ......
[/i][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Originally posted by adam0225
[i]I like Genius8's suggestion of La Lagende... but it is quite far from here.... edsa complex is close and nearby and i was in general happy ... many folks here seem to say that this is a really low end....
what shoud i do.....I will keep posted on my decision and let u know how it went... [/i][/QUOTE]
adam0225 .. just my humble opinion. I see nothing wrong with Edsa. I've met some really cool girls there. Have fun .. fill us in on the details!
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Asiatraveler2
[i]adam0225 .. just my humble opinion. I see nothing wrong with Edsa. I've met some really cool girls there. Have fun .. fill us in on the details! [/i][/QUOTE]
Here goes my report.... but before i go on... i must say that although ladies in Philippines are lovely, i miss Thai girls... in general there r something about them,,, their smile, nice smooth silky skin and so on.... oh well....
My adventure on Thursday evening got a late start....after an all day meeting, my business partner took me to a nice dinner... it is called new entertainment area called "Green Belt" near Makati and infront of New World Renassance Hotel.... oh boy... i was really impressed with the layout and many nice restaurants.... i strongly recommend that u guys try this place
After checking my emails I left hotel arount 10:00pm. At the time, I made up my mind that I was going to try La Lagende since i heard many nice things about this place and i haven't tried yet... nothing wrong with trying a new place... right? In the lobby, i chatted briefly with a Concierge guy who discouraged me by saying it is so far away.... just to show how gulliable i am... i decided to go for a bar near the hotel... since i hear many good things about East Asia, I decided to check it out...the hotel taxi driver tried to talk me into taking me to other place... i guess he wanted to collect his commission...after i arrived the driver said someting in local language... i guess he too me there so to collect commission....my first impression of East Asia was so so... the hall was dark and one girl was dacing on the stage... the old hag (more than 55 at least) named Debby says welcome sir.... the cover charge is 800 pesos... i say what???? cover charge... complex does not charge cover charge... before i paid my cover charge, i asked this old hag what is the bar fine... she said 8,000p to take girl out... at that point, i walked out and didn't look back.... i must say i was very disappointed with East Asia....
As I was walking out, the asshole taxi driver was waiting for me....i told him that i wanted to go to complex... then on the way to complex, he was telling me about this apt.... i pay 5,000p and i can bring 18-19 year old young hot looking chick... i told him ok let's give it a try... girls at this apt... fat ugly and $^%$%$%^... finally i get to complex.... then i felt ease...
I've been to Manila three times... I've only been to complex and only once to Burgus st. for 30 min.. so i feel very comfortable with their set up... very relaxing, good music and u can enjyo beer while looking at over 20 girls dancing infront of u... the first bar i went into had many girls but majority of them did not turn me on...so after a beer i move to the second bar... this is the beauty of complex... u can do bar hopping...this place was much better... and i took my time drinking 2 or 3 beers.... one thing i learned about complex, u don't make quick decision... after a while, i find a girl... look 5 or 6 , body 6 or 7 , personality 9 and she was 18
sex was ok... she was new- only 2 weeks on the job... so she gave me no bj or anything else... but her body was fresh... she told me she and mama sans told me that she was virgin but i am not sure if can belive it.... that is all folks...
adam0225... what can i say..im speechless..!!
:)
Jock, tnx for ur email...i'll contact you when i get in.
Adam:
I understand how you feel at East Asia. I was so disappointed there. And most of the strip joints along Pasay are going downhill. They make the foreigners pay so much more than the Filipinos. You may have noticed you were probably the only foreigner there. But, do you really think the other Filipinos were getting charged the prices you were charged? Hell no !
Also, I really enjoy Burgos St., but, have had a few nice experiences at the Edsa Complex.
But, if you feel cheated, tell the Momasan.
I have started a campaign to tell all the Momasan's they are ripping off the foreigners.
I had one Momasan tell me that business is so bad, they were raising the prices for the girls and the drinks. Is that crazy or what?
I love the Filipinas, but, the prices are now so outrageous, its cheaper just to go to Thailand.
good luck.
lalake
Hi guys, jst a quick update from here in manila...contacted JR last night (thanks gropapa) who brought two girls to my room....jst what i was needing after a long tiring flight..!!!!! :) Young, pretty, in my estimation 8/10. can recommend to anyone...use this guy when in manila. Im out with him tonight so i will update tomoro.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by flying scotsman
[i]Hi guys, jst a quick update from here in manila...contacted JR last night (thanks gropapa) who brought two girls to my room....jst what i was needing after a long tiring flight..!!!!! :) Young, pretty, in my estimation 8/10. can recommend to anyone...use this guy when in manila. Im out with him tonight so i will update tomoro. [/i][/QUOTE]
Thanks for your info. Couple of questios.
1. What is JR's phone number?
2. Cost for girl? and how much do we need to pay JR?
thanks.
Adam:
dont have a quick answer for you on JR. but, if you want, you can do a forum search, and get the answer.
Its been posted here before several times.
good luck, let us all know how it goes, I may give a try in a couple of weeks when I arrive.
cheers,
lalake
[QUOTE]Originally posted by adam0225
[i]Thanks for your info. Couple of questios.
1. What is JR's phone number?
2. Cost for girl? and how much do we need to pay JR?
thanks. [/i][/QUOTE]
Go see/read pages 2,3 and 4
Glad you had a good time scotsman, I'm in Manila and have been hunting with Jay R the past few days. Some of my friends are coming into town tomorrow and the next day, things should get quite wild.
The Pasay clubs along Roxas and the casas(boarding houses) seem to have a good stock post Valentines day, give them a try.
Jay R's # is 0917 414 5416, go for it he can accomodate all of us :)
Hi GROpapa,
You mentioned before that Jay R's girls are normally about 3,000 Pesos. I don't mind paying a extra couple of thousand Pesos to get higher quality girls. Do you know if he can also provide girls like that?
Cheers.
Guys...my apologies for not keeping up to date....been up north in pangasinan..bn so very busy..!!! I'll write up a decent report when i get time. All i will say is that when in Manila you really must hook up with JR. Hes one of the nicest guys ive met over here, honest and totally reliable. Just let hiim know what you need. Thanks again GRoPapa...best advice ever. Proper report will be in next few days... Happy Hunting..
Adam 0225 - Thanks for the report. I will just comment that, in 98 % of the cases I have experienced, heard of or read about, it is a bad idea to let a cab driver in any SE Asia country talk you into going someplace; I almost never hear of it being a good thing, let alone better than the original idea you had when you got in the cab.
That said, you did well to report on a new place.
Guys, I do not post much, but read the board daily. I will be visiting Manila in May. Sounds like Jay R is a safe bet for arranging female company in Manila. If he is reliable, maybe we should introduce him to email. That way he can develop a customer base, send pictures and bios of the girls. He can even arrange for pickup at the Airport with the honey of your choice. If he starts getting more and more clients, maybe he can reduce his prices. Volume, Volume, Volume..........Just a thought!!!!!!!!!!!!
Datamater out..............................
>>The rates of P6,000 - 12,000 are for Top-of-the-line girls and are not a rip-off by any standards. A rip-off is when you got cheated or got bad value for your money. With these places you know the prices up front, and your selection of pretty club girls. They are by no means cheap. In fact, these are EXPENSIVE.
How would feel if you can get Cindy Crawford or Cathy Ireland or a supermodel level beauty for US$1,000 a night in the USA. Expensive, but worth it, if you can afford it. YOU CAN, probably just not everyday, but at least once a year, on your birthday, you can treat yourself to this.<<
Sorry to take so long to get back on this point Genuis8, I guess you are right in what you say and top of the line is expensive. If you have the cash to splash, then go for it! :-)
I'll be in Manila next week and plan to try out JR and his service, will report back when I get home on how I get on!
Thaipan
[QUOTE]Originally posted by datamater
[i]Guys, I do not post much, but read the board daily. I will be visiting Manila in May. Sounds like Jay R is a safe bet for arranging female company in Manila. If he is reliable, maybe we should introduce him to email. That way he can develop a customer base, send pictures and bios of the girls. He can even arrange for pickup at the Airport with the honey of your choice. If he starts getting more and more clients, maybe he can reduce his prices. Volume, Volume, Volume..........Just a thought!!!!!!!!!!!!
Datamater out.............................. [/i][/QUOTE]
Now that sounds like a great idea - Jay R collecting you at the airport with the cutie of your choice in his taxi ready for action as soon as you hit your hotel!
Thaipan
Just got back from the Philippines and I recommend Stardust near the airport. The girls were pretty and gave a good massage, all for less than $50. Also, I was able to get service from about 7 different providers and I didn't pay more than a total of $200. Where in the US can you do that? The problem with goin to the RP is the airplane ticket cost, however, after landing, everything is so much cheaper.
As far as expanding Jay R's capabilities I believe they're already at optimal.
We've got to keep in mind that this is already a grey area as far as legal goes :)
Oh by the way, I'd like to vent on a couple of Chinese nationals who got Jay R's number from this website and used him to pick them up from the airport and as a guide to various hotels and DID NOT PAY HIM!! What the hell were you people thinking? You waste a nice guy's time, gas, car and then ditch him!?
You're so lucky I wasn't in town when this occurred or I'd have the Councilman of Makati bring you into his office to lean on your arses!
Needless to say, everyone else who has used Jay R from this website has gotten thumbs up from him.
Due to the experience he had with those Chinese nationals, I've asked him to make sure he gets reimbursed prior to separating from his guest per meeting, which is only right IMHO.
NOW WITH ALL THAT SAID AND DONE :) If you would like a pick up from the airport from Jay R wherein there just happens to coincidentally be a couple of females in the car riding with him upon your arrival I'm sure that can be arranged - Text or Call him at his cell
+639174145416, locally 09174145416
Have Fun!
GROPapa:
thanks for you input. You have been most helpful.
Although I must say I wont be going to any of the Pasay clubs anymore. I used to go there years ago, but, lately, the Momasan's simply rip me off. 600P for a cover, another 900P for 1 hour to talk w/ a girl, and 4,000P for a private room? That's ridiculous. I'm a nice guy, and speak Tagalog, and tried to get her to bring the prices down,but, no luck. And I was the only white guy there. I know the Filipinos aren't paying anywhere near those prices. And many times the girls on stage don't even go topless anymore. Oh well.....enough said, just my opinion...cheers.
Do you happen to know if any of Jay R's girls actually know how to give a legitimate massage?
So, often is it hard to find a girl who can entertain and give a good massage.
thanks again
Lalake
Does any of you got info on chinese or russian hookers plying in metro manila? Is this an urban legend? I'm bored with pinays already and I'm looking for a different experience
As far as Chinese/Russian prostis go, I know that in the Binondo district there are Chinese massage parlors ..they are inside the buildings and do not advertise openly. The reason for this is they mostly cater to the Chinese community, but if you can find them then money talks obviously just like most things in Manila. Best bet is to go to Binondo and ask the local merchants or taxi drivers.
As far as Russian girls, keep in mind that the economies of most Eastern European countries are worse than the Philippines - sad but true :) So if you happen to see women who look Eastern Euro, strike up a conversation and if she's not a student then she is probably on a tourist visa trying to make some money in Manila. I've seen some hanging around the bars of hotels in the Glorietta Mall area in Makati.
For anyone looking for a decent priced massage, do try Starfleet ..as I've said around 3-4k total will get you a decent thai massage with extra service in one of their Presidential Suites.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by AgentOrange
[i]Does any of you got info on chinese or russian hookers plying in metro manila? Is this an urban legend? I'm bored with pinays already and I'm looking for a different experience [/i][/QUOTE]
I live in South Korea. I frequent the Songton bar district outside of Osan AB. There are plenty of Russian hooks here. The going rental fee is anywhere between $100 and $200 depending on day of the week and your bargaing skills with mamasan.
Datamater
[QUOTE]Originally posted by GROpapa
[i]As far as Chinese/Russian prostis go, I know that in the Binondo district there are Chinese massage parlors ..they are inside the buildings and do not advertise openly. The reason for this is they mostly cater to the Chinese community, but if you can find them then money talks obviously just like most things in Manila. Best bet is to go to Binondo and ask the local merchants or taxi drivers.
[/i][/QUOTE]
Thanks for the advise but I've been looking for chinese girls in the binondo area for years now and I had no luck. Do you have personal experience on this? All the massage parlors I know in that area have pinay attendants.
Just got back from the Philippines. This is my second time to meet Jay R. He is a busy guy. I am so disappear for his service. The girls from Jay R, the price is good about P2500-P3000. The girl is not good, just around 4-7. So I went to the "firehouse". The price is OK. Bar fine P1000, one Q P2000 and one night P3000. But the girls were better around 7-9.
Rayii
What type of girls do you think are 7-9? The exotic or the mestiza ones?
If you were there during Feb and early March, we did keep Jay R very busy since there were four of us in my group and I knew he was also handling a couple more on the side ---
I had to reject the first batch of girls he brought once, but took from the second batch ...my tastes differ as sometimes I like what I call jungle bunnies, these are the dark "exotic" types with cute face, flat nose, nice bodies - call it the American in me I do love to get rough with these dark tanned types from time to time.
I also prefer the chinese and spanish mestiza girls with sharp features and slanted eyes, this is where the Filipino in me steps in.
The good thing about Jay R is, if you're not into his girls that's just part of his service anyhow ..he is also a recognized Metro Manila bar guide at most KTVs and bars in Makati, Pasay and QC so eventually even if you don't get the girl from him he'll guide you to one.
I'm not particularly fond of the Burgos scene, I'd rather go into Cubao and Bulacan where the locals dwell and where you have to watch your six :)
just met this high class bugaw with wide selection.. 09187060399
from students, models and foreigner chicks
check his site...
[url]http://www.geocities.com/appetite_entertainment/Home.html[/url]
Let's not forget those who are willing to spend some cash... Most actresses/models in Manila are available for 20K pesos. They spend time with you - absolutely no rush. Very clean. I slept with Patricia Javier on a past trip. Definitely worth it! Of course, pimps are involved...
Assunta de Rossi is also available, not to mention Diana Zubiri, Maui Taylor, and Aubrey Miles. Most are around 20K pesos.
Any info needed? You can text me (SMS) on 0916 783 5510 or outside Phils. +639167835510
[QUOTE]Originally posted by AgentOrange
[i]just met this high class bugaw with wide selection.. 09187060399
from students, models and foreigner chicks
check his site...
[url]http://www.geocities.com/appetite_entertainment/Home.html[/url] [/i][/QUOTE]Has anyone here tried pursuing these types of girls for long-term relationships, particularly girls who only do part-time escort services?
Wow, only P20K (about $400) with a bomba star! How much time can you be them for 20K pesos?
Just got back from PI and wanted to share my experience:
1st day of Mongering:
after flying for 15hours with hardly any sleep, my friends brought me to Classmate. (We first stopped at Lexus but the selection was not that great). The girls at Classmates were a lot better than Lexus. We got the VIP room w/ Karaoke. We stayed for about 4 hours. Nothing fantastic happened here. Cannot bar fine any of the girls. I was very disappointed.
Girls: 7 – 8
Cost: 20k for 4 people
2nd day of Mongering:
My other cousin took me to Bartolina in Cubao. You need to know someone who knows the area to get to this place. Even my cousin took some time finding it. This place had the most strict t security I’ve ever experienced during my stay. The selection of women range between 5 – 8. Hired this gir who’s about 18 years old. She about a 7.5 but with great set of teeth, of course. They serve drinks to women at around 650P. This lets you talk to them for 45 mins. FM told me that I could take them to the VIP room for 1700P/hr. I thought that it’s a little bit much to pay for that amount even though it’s about $35. She said that I could pretty much do anything I want. Well, in that case I went ahead and took the VIP room.
Performance: Excellent. Great BBBJ.
Cost : approx 5000P. (2 people)
3rd day of Mongering:
Tried to get the cavalry so I called JR. I called him at 9pm and told him my intention. I asked for a beautiful girl. I don’t care much for the shade of her skin as long as she has perfect teeth (fetish). Had to wait for 2 hours before he was able to deliver. It turned out that the girls he had in mind lived with her aunt, therefore making it difficult for her to leave her house. She had to wait for her aunt to go to bed and bail out through their back window. According to JR, this girl was in need of money to pay her tuition, and was her first time in doing this. She’s around 20 years old, morena skin and very big round eyes. JR dropped her off at Padi’s Point where I was waiting. We had a couple of beers and went and got a room.
Performance:
Great BBBJ for a first timer. She spent about 15 minutes down there. However, since she was on an egg timer ( remember her aunt is oblivious on all of this) she had to back home before she wakes up. I hate being hurried so I told her to just leave. Disappointed but thought I still have a week to go. Called JR and told him about my experience. Promised to make it up to me tomorrow.
Performance: 3 - although great BBBJ
Cost: 3k
4th day of Mongering:
Hired JR again. He took me to the Makati/ Roxas Blvd. First Stop was at the Burgos Dormitories. I visited three dormitories and did not like what I see. So JR decided to take me to the KTV’s.
East Asia: not a whole lot of selections there. Saw a couple of cuties. Remembered there assigned numbers and moved on.
Infiniti: Mamasan opened the curtain and I was overwhelmed by the number of girls to choose from. I think there were about 70 of them.
WHOAAAA!!!!! Saw this beautiful girl. She about 19 years old. 5’5”. Beautiful set of teeth. She was a little bit timid. Barfine=8k.
Performance: 9
Cost: 8k
Spent about 30mins working on the little one, so much for being timid. She worked on me like she was on a mission. GFE experience all the way. I had a little bit to drink so it took me a while, but I did.
Side note: one thing I like about these girls is that they have great hygiene. They take showers before the session.
5th and 6th day of Mongering:
The girl from Infiniti sent me a text messege and just wanted to hang. Why not! So for the next 2 day she was with me. Cost to me = 0. I had to pay for food and misc. stuff but she did not charge me for her companionship. Although at the end of the third day I tipped her some monies.
7th day of Mongering:
Girl from Bartolina sent me a text message and wanted to get together. It’s about 3am and I’m some friends of mine. So I dumped my friends and told them that I have more important things to do.
Performance: so much better compared when we were in the VIP room.
Cost: 0
Final thoughts:
Overall, mongering is really great in PI if you know the place. Prices could very depending on your experience and fluency with the Tagalog language. All women speak good English. However, this is not their main form of communication so if you want value added service, it helps to learn to speak the language. JR is a good pimp since he knows where to find good-looking women. It will cost you additional dough for his service but he is trustworthy. However, if you have cousins/friends who live locally and have time to tour you around at night, then you’ll be able to save 1-2k. All girls I’ve dated all gave me GFE experience. Not one of them asked for money before we did the deed. This is very important to me. It has been my experience to pay after the service is done. This makes them perform better since they have to work for it. Although I’m not really sure with these filipina girls if paying them before the deed would affect their service. Comparing them with the workingwomen here than the states, I feel that they are less jaded and more accommodating.
Although these are working women and not the type you’ll introduce to mama or papa, I think it is important to be a gentleman. When I say gentleman, I mean to treat them with respect. I think if you treat them with respect you’ll GFE experience would be enhanced. It worked for me!
Thank you to all people who have contributed to this board.
My next stop is in South America. Anyone who is interested to monger together, send me an e-mail [email]nortelsystems2k@yahoo.com[/email].
I really cannot belive the amounts you guys are paying these girls. I can accept film star prices, but ordinary girls being paid 5000-10,000 is nonsense.
First you are ruining the market for others,
Secondly you are being ripped off.
I know that because I pay nothing like that for girls that really turn heads.
This week, one WSG messager from Cebu explained how he got great girls fo nothing every day. Clearly a man with imagination and a brain on his head. Try chatting before you get to Phls and line them up! Otherwise just smile and talk to girls you meet in the Phils., shops, hotels staff, restaurants, Jollybee customers - it really is soooo easy, they all dream of getting out of the Philippines.
FYI -
Some of these girls don't mind to do three-some. The girl from Infinity that I was with for a couple of days (see report below) showed me around to some of the clubs she used to work. We stayed at stardust and watched their show. She would give me info on each girl that would go on stage.. .how old she is, how long she's been in the business, where they used to work, and so on and so forth. Then after an hour of watching she asked me if I wanted to have three some with her and another girl. Wow! I said no (what was I thinking!). Actually, I am just getting started with this hobby so I thought I'd take things little by little. Mind you that this girl I’m with is a 9 in my books, so I wasn't really looking for her replacement, yet.
Hey Santa glad you had a good time on your vacation.
I'm sure JR told ya that we were in town during the time you were, I asked him on the days I wasn't banging chicks what you were up to but he said you had a girl already or your with relatives.
Your experience in Manila and my barkada's is pretty similar.
Personally I was busy with some girls from Infiniti and Athena that I hooked up with through their coworkers, food and drinks expense for free popoy. Aren't those Infiniti chicks off the hook?! :)
I also went to Bartolina and banged MaryRose in VIP, my buddy's aunt is a manager at that place. A couple of days later Sunshine brought a couple of girls to our place to swim in the pool and I had some free action from that too.
I'm heading back to Pinas for a few months, doesn't look like I can hunt in South America this year although that new Snoop video's getting me psyched up! I love the chicks in that video geezus
Hi GROpapa,
Where abouts are Infinity and Athena? How was maryroase?
I will be there in July with a fellow monger, let me know if you're in town.
Ilongoboy
[QUOTE]Originally posted by GROpapa
[i]Hey Santa glad you had a good time on your vacation.
I'm sure JR told ya that we were in town during the time you were, I asked him on the days I wasn't banging chicks what you were up to but he said you had a girl already or your with relatives.
[/i][/QUOTE]
GPOPS,
Yeah, JR mentioned that you and your friends were in town. Wanted to hang with you guys but circumstances made it difficult for me. Anyway, I'll be back to PI next year (that's after I try the BA delicacies). PI has been a blast for me. The women are just too BAADDD. Even the non-pros are getting a liitle bit as aggressive as the GROs. I wanted to go back there ASAP however my cousin wanted to try BA.
If you or Ilongo_boy change your mind about going BA, let me know. This is my first time going to BA so it would be a learning curve for me. I plan to be there between June and August.
Be sure to post you rendezvous when you get back to PI, you dawg!
SC
Santaclaus:
>>My other cousin took me to Bartolina in Cubao. You need to know someone who knows the area to get to this place. Even my cousin took some time finding it. This place had the most strict t security I’ve ever experienced during my stay. <<
I was taken here by a Filipino friend in April 2002 and you are right about the security, the place is apparently owned by the police! I had the most professional body search I have ever had in my life before they opened the door and let us in for a damn good night!
Thaipan
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ILuvCebu
[i]Let's not forget those who are willing to spend some cash... Most actresses/models in Manila are available for 20K pesos. They spend time with you - absolutely no rush. Very clean. I slept with Patricia Javier on a past trip. Definitely worth it! Of course, pimps are involved...
Assunta de Rossi is also available, not to mention Diana Zubiri, Maui Taylor, and Aubrey Miles. Most are around 20K pesos.
[/i][/QUOTE]
ILuvCebu,
I think you got your prices and info wrong. Maui Taylor's current is P300,000. Assunta De Rossi is married to a PI congressman. I dont know when you slept with Patricia Javier or how much you paid ... so no comment on this. Definitely your mentioned names are NOT available for P20,000. Multiply that by 10 or 15 and it is possible.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by genuis8
[i]ILuvCebu,
I think you got your prices and info wrong. Maui Taylor's current is P300,000. Assunta De Rossi is married to a PI congressman. I dont know when you slept with Patricia Javier or how much you paid ... so no comment on this. Definitely your mentioned names are NOT available for P20,000. Multiply that by 10 or 15 and it is possible. [/i][/QUOTE]
$5000.00 + USD for these nookies?? wow, that is some heavyweight. Anyone else has any other info on this relating matter to add?
Not a bad price if you just want the prestige of having a movie star on your list. Also if you are rich and have a lot of chips, $5000 could be just small change for you and this could be a well deserved lay.
But most of these Filipina movie stars either grew up in the US and/or are hybrids (either Caucasian father and Filipina mother or vice versa). You can find a lot of the same looks and caliber if you just hang out in the dance clubs in California USA (mostly in Los angeles, Bay Area, or San Diego Area). And if you're lucky you may be able to get some for free!
But then again, you'll find that a lot of these filipina girls in the US have a stuck-up attitude and you would have to be a young stud or mega-rich to get their attention. When they go back to PI and become movie stars, they demand exorbitant prices!
UNFREAKING-BELIEVABLE!!!!!!!!
Hi Guys,
I am Wolf, normally posting from Japan, China, Honk Kong, Taipei and Korea.
I shall be very soon in Manila fgor my first trip and will get to the Hyatt Hotel in Makati.
Could anyone let me know what the closrest nice action spot is ? How is the hotel bar and disco ? Should I hunt around there or go somewhere else ?
Thanks for your help.
Wolf
wolf
read my comments in makati,the hyatt is not in makati,second there is no hotel disco,just a bar,regards
Am going to Manila for 3 days. Freelance and streetwalkers are my scene. Will definitely try LA Cafe in Malate as recommended by P-Guy.
Any recommended spots for streetwalkers in Ermita ?
Price more important than quality.
Khao Rop,
Checkout the Robinson's Mall after 6:00pm. Lots of freelancers walking around. :)
...(prog)
One weekend in Manila. Stayed at the Lotus Garden Hotel cor. Mabini and Padre Faura. Clean rooms at PHP1,250 which at current exchange rate of 52 is US$24.
Out of the hotel, turn right on Fadre Faura and left on M.H. Del Pilar and the LA Cafe is just 8 mins walk. Good thing about this place it is open 24 hours so always some women around. Decided I would go with the first one to grab me which happened to be Marilyn, 30 yrs. An important reminder that a lot of fat can be squeezed into jeans. However I liked her because she was real freelance, no make up, no handbag, no jewellery. just the clothes she was wearing.
Took her for a short time of two rounds at PHP1,000 plus some taxi fare. Only surprising thing was that on the second round she asked me not to use condom which of course I refused but wonder why.
Second night I took time to pick and settled for Nanette, 21. Did not realise it at the time from her clothes but when she undressed she had beautiful breasts. Shaved pussy. PHP2,000 for all night.
In between I visited Japlac Music Lounge, 1148 Jorge Bocobo Street, Ermita, down an alley directly opposite the Hotel Soriente. This is the street that is a sort of extension of Adriatico and joins UN Boulevard. Met the Manager, Gina who offered to select according to my specifications from a sofa full of girls of all shapes and sizes. She picked an 18 years old Arianne who has not been in the business for long. PHP2,000 to pay to Japlac. Up to you how much you tip the girl if anything. No technique but had alll the freshness and hard body of an 18 year old. Worth it.
Will try Robinsons as recommended by bro progman on next trip
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ILuvCebu
[i] Assunta de Rossi is also available, not to mention Diana Zubiri, Maui Taylor, and Aubrey Miles. Most are around 20K pesos.
[/i][/QUOTE]
Are you kidding me? I absolutely love aubrey miles how do i get a contact with her or her "manager"?
May 2 – 4.
First weekend I went to Batangas for a scuba-dive weekend, inviting a female dive-buddy that I have known for a few years, but never had any sexual relation with. As she is a Lady, as I knew her, I had decided not to not try to encounter anything with her, only be with her as a good friend and a dive-buddy. We had a nice weekend, diving at the Cathedral and other places close to Anilao. The resort was acceptable, but cabins with fans only, with mainly pinoy macho divers. The Dive-Masters were very good, knowing the area well.
May 5 – 11
The following week I was busy with business, and other non-hobbyist issues during daytime and early evenings, but went windowshopping in Bourgos Street on monday evening with some friends, where my intention was to see one girl I had met on the internet working in Jungle Room. Of cause – I had forgotten that Monday was her day off, so I did not get to meet her. At about 0100 I left my friends, to go back to my hotel, but by “accident” I found myself visiting Casino Bar in EDSA for the first time this trip. Herman, the bartender who is never behind the bar, only entertaining the guests has a bad habit of remembering your name, even though you have not been in the bar for months. This evening he introduced me to two new ladies, their first night at Casino. I started to chat with one, found her cute, a mestiza, mixed Chinese. She wanted only a orange-juice. I had a beer. I gave a beer to Herman and one of the Floor Managers as well. Decided to bring the girl (Luv-Luv - stagename) to my hotel, and the Bar Fine was as before, PhP 1.000. The total damage when leaving the bar with Luv-Luv was php 1450 (about usd. 30), including the BF. Took her to my hotel, Oakwood – no problems, no questions, when she wanted to negotiate on how long to stay. I wanted her to stay until 0700, but she needed to go home to her mother by 0500. I told her I used to pay php 1500 for all night, but would only give her 1000 until 0500, with no other limitations. She smiled, and accepted. Her history was that she had worked at Universal as a dancer before, and started only this night at Casino. She had had two non-paying men before, both fu*king her twice. Did not believe her of cause, but learned later from her lack of experience that she had to be telling the truth. She did not like touching the d**k, now blowjob, mostly nothing. Side-line,, I always bring a small vibrator, and I introduced it to her, he he he,,, and she became all wild while we were playing with it. Me, being a nice guy, got it my way after a while, but I had to remind her time and time again not to use her teeths during the BJ. All ended well for me, her as well, but I will only range the experience as a 4 (out of 10). The girl was nice, cute, having wires on her teeths, being only 19 years old. But I was not there being her trainer, I wanted experienced service that I could not get. Paid her 1.000 + taxi 100, making the total damage of the night to php 2.550 (usd.50)
Tuesday – office/work/dinner… Then off from dinner with one friend at about 2200 hours, and went back to Casino Bar in EDSA (for those who don’t know the location – it is across the street from Heritage Hotel in Pasay. It is a place mostly frequented by foreigners, as the pinoys think that the girls working there are to “exotic”, meaning not looking good. They themselves prefer mestiza, non-philippino looking ladies). We entered, and then out of the blue came a lady I met in the bar more than one year ago, and did not BF then, and she greeted me with my name. Wow – what a surprise. We had a couple of beers each, also giving a few to the friendly Floor Managers, and Herman, the bartender. Left with her with a damage of php 1.750. Took her back to Oakwood, again no problem. We had a glass of wine, talking for a while about our last one year. She said she was 24, but later adjusted it to 27, but I think she was early 30’ies. I only know her real name, Mayon, and she is also a singer in a band, and is working in Casino part time, which I wanted to believe J. She was good, experienced, and I had a good time. I then introduced her to the vibrator, and we were playing a lot. She took control over the vib.. and was playing herself so hard, she was crying from joy. After having reached heaven she said – give it to me – give it go me, he he he. I told her I could not – as I might need other ladies more in need of the toy. She accepted that, and asked what more she could do for me in return, more BJ, a RIM-job, whatever I wanted, as she was so happy. Lolz… I can only say that I had one of the best nights ever with a Philippina Lady, and I gave her 1700, making the total damage php 3.450 (about usd. 70) for everything.
Wednesday, Thursday and Friday I was out of town, without any hobbying possibilities.
Saturday I had an agreement to meet one of my “penpals” from internet, Christina. This is a sweet Filipina lady, she became 20 years old when I was there, so I brought her some gifts that she needed at school this coming year. She had worked at Banzai in Edsa for one year, but no longer as she was kept by a European guy that lived in Manila, but travelled a lot. She was very open about it, told me before I came down to see her. I had told her that I would bring my toys, and it was the first thing she asked for when she came to my room (This time at Manila Hotel). She had never experienced it, so she was all hot/wet before coming to see me. She was with me from noon, until 1800, and was fucking my brains out, and herself as well, squirting and moaning… She insisted on coming back to my hotel on sunday and monday, but as I had other things to attend to, I had to say that I would call her if I could fit her in to my busy schedule.
Had a shower, then went to Remedios Circle in Malate, my favourite place in Manila with a lot of clubs, eateries and fun. Being a member of http://www.manilatonight.com I know that there was to be a birthday-party for one of the female-members (Swit_Lass) in Taza, a small club. Went there about 2130, handed over my birthday-present, and stayed for a few beers. About 100 members attended the party, so I got to know a few of them. Then visited a couple of other clubs, Arkidia and Hobbit House for the music and the sizzling Gambas, and went back to my hotel at about 0030.
Sunday morning, I went to Luneta, walking in the park from 0900-1100, looking at the kite-show and more. As my dive-buddy had been out of town, she texted my that she was back, telling me that she was to see a movie at Glorietta (all alone). I asked if I could join her, he he,, and we went out for dinner afterwards. I knew I was on to something, but wanted to work it slowly, as I said before, she is A Lady. Saw her well off to a taxi, and we agreed to meet next evening, after work, as it was my last night in Manila.
May 12-13.
My dive-buddy left work at 1800, and came to my hotel, as I had invited her to dine at the Champagne Room. A nice French dinner, whereafter we went to my room. I knew then I was up for something unexpected, as ordinary girls will not visit your room, unless they trust you a lot. All I can say is that she should not have trusted me,,, She used to be a virgin, and I had a troublesome, enjoyable and emotional night, before arranging a car to take her home by 0530, so she could change her dress before going to the office again.
Tuesday morning she texted me, asking if she could see me before I left, and she came at 1630, as I had a late check-out (1800). Again, we had a very good time, and I guess by now I have a cruch for her, a no-no for a hobbyist like me), and we are texting each other a lot since then via Chikka.com that I was introduced to via this forum.
To summarize it all, I had a very good time in RP this visit, meeting 4 different ladies. This was not according to my plan, as I also had 3 more ladies lined up from meetings via Internet. I spent to much time on the dive-buddy, as I had the hunter inside me telling me that there was a possibility with her, and I was right. Regret though that I did not manage to meet the others, but I will for sure keep them warm until my next visit.
I will give the email-address of Christina to three regular members of this forum, for them to try to set up a meeting with her. This is valid only until May 25. After that date I will only delete the mails asking about her details. You may email me at my handle at hotmail. Be nice to her, as she is a very cute girl.
Sorry for this long post, but I wanted to give you some info about one of my regular visits to this beautiful country, and how I handle myself when here. I find Bourgos Street not the right place to hang out, as it is too expensive for a regular guy. Being member of MTC (www.Manilatonight.com) is also a good way to approach people, if you are an active member, posting in the forum like me. I have received invitations to parties with some of the ladies there already, also a one on one meeting with one of the female-members, but since I already had other plans prepared for my trip I had to turn them down. But try not to be to blunt, as it will only scare potential ladies away. For those of you that are looking for escort-ladies, some pimps are members as well, and may set you up with their ladies.
I would recommend, as others have done before me, to get your own sim-card for local communication. The ladies cannot afford sending texts abroad for php 10 a text, since it only cost php 1 for local texting.
Nice post Marconista, glad you had a good time. I sent you a PM through Manilatonight. I will be working there this coming July as well, hope I have as much luck as you.
Cheers.
[quote]originally posted by genuis8
[i]iluvcebu,
i think you got your prices and info wrong. maui taylor's current is p300,000. assunta de rossi is married to a pi congressman. i dont know when you slept with patricia javier or how much you paid ... so no comment on this. definitely your mentioned names are not available for p20,000. multiply that by 10 or 15 and it is possible. [/i][/quote]
you can say that again...i've been offered these gals (not as if i can afford them :) ) before, and the price range is correct.
khao rop - glad to be of help
well, just wanted to greet all da peeps here after being gone for some time. it's nice to get back into the hobby.
Marconista,ilongo boy
Say your posts on manila tonight,i joined but have chosen to remain a lurker(silent type 0 posts),my tagalog is really getting challenged,discovered skyline because of manila tonight,much better value then PDP,regarding Ilongo boys stay in Makati,talked to Suzette the director of sales for Citygarden and they have a long term guest promo,but you can get a better deal at oxford,a friend just closed a room for 14K a month,Kathy is the sales manager of Oxford,look her up,I am enjoying the manila tonight,but 95% of the people are locals who only experienced the philippines,mostly manila,so with my adventures of Bangkok,Malaysia,Canada as well as Cebu and Palawan and makati.the WSG is more at home with me,so of the guys describe how anal or 69 is exotic to them,anybody who has tried the 3 some at eden club in BKK or fire and ice bj s in KL can say these guys do not know what they are missing regards
I will be in Manila this weekend. Anyone want to hangout and drink at LA Cafe. Email me: Ctabc@yahoo.com
You've been around cebu local! I only stay for one month at a time in Makati. Do you think Suzette would be able to give me a deal - since I stay there 3 times a year?
Do I need to mention your name to Suzette as a referral?
Which do you prefer - Oxford or City Garden?
You're right about the crowd at MTC... but it helps to know what the locals are up to...
I will be there in July and a friend will be joinging later on. He wants to monger badly. I'm thinking to bringing him to Boracay, may need to bring our own supply of ladies. Would you have any recommendations?
Hope you're in Manila in July.
ilongo boy
how are you ? hope you are maayo,anyway citygarden is the better hotel,but oxford is clean and desperate for guests,i will check with suzette when i go to manila this weekend.regarding boracay i answered you in the cebu section.if he is kano,no need to bring your own,if he is pinoy bring your own regards
Cebu local,
Maayo gid, mama ko na sa Bacolod subong - pirme lang ga pangayo kuarta para sa majong!
Just spoke to Suzette and she tells me they don't go below 1900 per night. Please speak to her when you can, hope you have better negotiation skills than I do.
My friend is european looking, same age and medyo mapili sa babae.
Is Oxford Suites on Burgos? Are there rooms and service same at comaprable to CG?
Thanks agin for the reply, I love WSG!
ilongo boy
oxford suites is on burgos 50 meters from city garden,it is a clean hotel with big rooms,a restaurant just no pool.Did suzette quote you 1800 pesos net or plus taxes,suzette quoted 1800 inclusive of taxes to me.but oxford is so much better value regards
Cebu local,
I have that deal since last year - 1800 all in but no breakfast. She mention 1900 to me over the phone.
Can I have Kathys number at Oxford? My dilema is that I only stay for 3 weeks and normally take of to Baclod on the weekends, in total I normally stay for about 15 days at City garden and store my luggages when I leave town. Is Oxford condusive to doing business like meeting clients for a quick meeting?
I know I'm aksing a lot of questions, thanks for your patience and response.
Ilongo boy
the deal in oxford is to get a monthly deal which is at a lower rate then paying daily for 15 days,like pay 15k for 1 month rather then pay 1,500 for 15 days with no more need to store and pack your stuff since the room is yours the whole time.Citibank and IBM use the place for temporary housing www.oxfordsuitesmakati.com or 632-7888 Kathy Palma,salers manager,Durban corner Burgos,and their Coffee shop is condusive for meetings regards
ILONGO BOY
SORRY,NOT KATHY PALMA,KATHY MANUEL IS THE SALES MANAGER,KATHY PALMA IS THE OWNER OF THE NURTURE SPA IN TAGAYTAY WHICH IS A GREAT PLACE TO VISIT,IT WAS FEATURED IN MABUHAY MAGAZINE LAST MONTH,GREAT PLACE TO UNWIND REGARDS
Cebu local,
I will call her on Monday, if I mention that a friend from cebu recommended me, is this okay?
Do you think I have a good chance of negotiating 15K for the month of July?
Maraming salamat, lets definitely hook up I owe you a few beers with all this important info.
All
just tried the skyline massage parlour on the 8th floor on the Grand boulevard hotel,great rooms overlooking the bay and the girls are all IMHO 6-9,they have an afternoon delight promo,where you pay 1,400 pesos for 2 girls as long as go before 6pm,then 1,000 pesos tip for each girl for all the extra s.BBBJ,FS,AR except Anal sex.they use real rooms and are open 24 hours.I watched the BBC while they were giving me my bj.Plus being in a 4 star hotel makes for a safe enviroment .Grand boulevard is on Roxas boulevard along the bay where the casino is located,regards
hey c.l.
just wondering how long do you get the girls for? also, what does AR stand for?
thanks for calling my attention to this from the AC thread.
hooky
Cebu,
You sure get around, I used to stay at this hotel 5 years ago when I started going back to Manila. Thanks for the update, I will have to try it with my buddy.
Have you tried this massage place on Makati ave, just passed City Garden? Sorry, I can't remember the name.
Ilongo and Hooky
AR-Ass Rimming if you like that stuff ,I discovered it in malaysia feels great when the girl doing it knows how to lick and you get about 2 hours with the girls,one girl is 1,000 pesos,havent tried asking them if i can get 3 girls for 1,800 pesos.Ilongo the place might be Imperial,it is expensive compared to skyline regards
Ilongo and Hooky
AR-Ass Rimming if you like that stuff ,I discovered it in malaysia feels great when the girl doing it knows how to lick and you get about 2 hours with the girls,one girl is 1,000 pesos,havent tried asking them if i can get 3 girls for 1,800 pesos.Ilongo the place might be Imperial,it is expensive compared to skyline regards
Ilongo and Hooky
AR-Ass Rimming if you like that stuff ,I discovered it in malaysia feels great when the girl doing it knows how to lick and you get about 2 hours with the girls,one girl is 1,000 pesos,havent tried asking them if i can get 3 girls for 1,800 pesos.Ilongo the place might be Imperial,it is expensive compared to skyline regards
SORRY,I CLICKED 3 TIMES ACCIDENTALLY FEEL FREE TO DELETE THE EXTRA POSTS ,BUT IT WAS A GOOD DEAL IMHO,ILONGO IMPERIAL IS ABOUT 50% MORE EXPENSIVE AND KINDA FEELS SLEAZY GOING TO AN MP COMPARED TO A BIG HOTEL
no prob cebu
thanks for the clarification. agreed, in the hands of the right girl "AR" can take you breath away! wish i could find that older LA AMP provider who was so good at that!
hooky
Cebu Local
Re MTC,, guess you are right, regarding experience of members,, but it is a fun place to visit. But if looking for great babes, it is not the place to hang out. The lady-members are OK in a way, but you will not introduce all of them to your mother. I have asked a few for a link to their pic's on the net, but they are reluctant to let me see them. Those I met (visually only), so so,, but guess they are good barkadas.. The forum however, as you said,, you can get good information to follow up, as you did.. Next time (november I guess), I will try to meet elaisamarie, as one of the members said she gave "discount" to MTC-members,, he he he.. Chatted with her a lot, have a brain. If u see her before me, please give us a FR. Her name is id both in msm and yahoo.
Further - I want to salute you for all non-hobby information you provide in this forum. I do hope I will have the possibility to take advantage of some of it at a later stage...
marconista,
How accurate is the "discount" with elaisamarie? Did P4P happen, or was it just a good-time out with a fun girl?
Genuis8
The amount was not discussed, the topic only briefly touched upon, as I had been chatting with her more than a few times.. I was a male member that mentioned it.
As I mentioned, I have not actually met her, only chatted, so there has not been any encountering yet with Elai... It looks like she is highly appreciated by the other members, also as a friendly person, but she is herself saying that she can behave "posh" towards people not handling themselves properly... but then - what do I know...
Have fun in Manila - it is The Great Place to be, if u ask me. I love the place, but I have only visited since 1996-7, so I guess I am not that familiar with the city... There are others, much more experienced hobbyists than me out there.
My thing - I do not fancy Bourgos Street - to expensive - and the girls to demanding - I like simple people, friendly people, and can easily mingle with people in most other places, such as in Malate and at EDSA Entertainment Complex.
marconista,
Appreciate your info regarding elai. I am a PI local and know Manila pretty well, especially the Upscale Nightlife scene that is enjoyed by the locals. I am not a fan of Burgos St bars/clubs because the women are too pushy, overcharge, and generally too much hardcore/pro and not good value for money.
If you like the EDSA complex types, this represents the old Ermita/Mabini Go-Go bars which catered to the expat crowd in Manila (that were kicked out by then Mayor Lim). You might like the Primera Hotel & Health Club on the 7th floor of the same bldg as Premiere Hotel, at Plaza Sta Cruz (corner of Dasmarinas St) in Manila. The fee is P500 for the room/session and P800-1,000 for the girl for FS. A caveat: These girls are "exotic" to caucasians, meaning plain by local standards.
Are you now relocated to Manila and living there long term? I wish I was there right now. I am also using the same handle in MTC.
marconista and genius
i am also in MTC as cebucitylocal,just saw your posts marconista,i notice those of us from WSG tend to post in paragraphs,while many in the MTC only post one liners and are not as detailed regards
Question for you Manila regulars. How does the bar fine system work? It seems that sometimes the bar fine is only to get the girl out of the club and then when you get to your hotel you negotiate the prices with her. Is this right? Does it vary from place to place? Does the girl get any of the bar fine? My experiences have varied so help me out, guys.
Thanks!
If you want to save money, here's what you should do. Go to the intersection of Taft and Edsa and then go south about 10 meters. There is a hotel there called "Rotonda."
I'm writing this in simple/special English (mostly) because some of our readers do not possess English as thier native language.
In front of the hotel and across the street, will be girls standing there, some freelance, and some associated with a pimp. Note that you may have to go about 10 or 20 meters north of the entrance to the Hotel to see some of the girls. They may be standing there with friends who are selling fruit, etc.
They may ask P500 (US10.00) , but I usually pay P200 or 300. One, I paid 500 for anal, but it hurt her too much and I stopped. I still paid her though. Once, I got 5 girls in one afternoon. Once, A girl did BJ and swallowed it and then cuddled with me for 3 hours. (Christine) (I have her cell phone number.) The hotel is p97 for 3 hours. fan.
One had a yeast infection. One had a fever in her pussy. so 20 % there may have a disease. I used condoms.
But also, I had a few Filipina girlfreinds in Taiwan when I was working there. (real girlfriends) .
sail east west,
You will encounter these barfine systems in the PI:
1. For Burgos St (Makati) gogo bars, the barfine is just to take the girl out of the club. You have to negotiate separately beforehand on how much her fee is. She will probably get a cut of the barfine.
2. For EDSA complex/Visions/Chaos in Roxas Blvd (gogo bars), you neogotiate the barfine with the mamasan. Sometimes, the mamasan will tell you P1,000 for the barfine and P3,000 for the girl overnight and you pay the mamasan the P1,000 and the girl P3,000. Other times, the mamasan will say barfine is P1,000 that you will pay and you negotiate the rate with the girl.
3. For upscale nightclubs, the barfine ALWAYS include the house fee and the girl's fee. In this case, it is very important to agree beforehand on how long the girl will stay, since they like to bail out at 4-5AM. I prefer to have them with me until 9-10AM for my round-2. You always pay the total to the mamasan. The girl has to come to work the next night to get her money. This is the way the club makes sure she does not take off with you for a week.
Hi all,
I take very short trips to Manila because of business, maybe 1 night at most so I have to do my thing real quick. No time to cruise the bars. I have tried only Casas around Manila, I'm sure the regulars know of the 4-5 brothels around the Ermita area.
Does anybody have one that they recommend? I pretty much tried one girl from each one. Casino Royal, etc.
My experience in Manila has been good and bad. 2 good experiences 1 bad.
I know the brothels charge an arm and a leg. About 3000 pesos which is a total rip off compared to other places but the damn Japanese have jacked up the price like crazy. I'm not Japanese but am Asian so they always try to jack me. If I get 3000 for a young decent girl, I'm a happy camper cause I'm limited in time and I really don't feel like haggling over $20.
My first experience in Manila was pretty good, went to a casa, picked up a nice young 20 year old. She was a very nice girl, gave a good BBBJ, nothing unusual, since it was my first time in Manila, I did treat her exceptionally well, bought her some clothes at the mall and took her to TGIF, I know this isn't necessary but I just felt like it that day. I did cumm in her mouth and she didn't really enjoy that one, said I was the first the cumm in her mouth ever, she was brushing her teeth for about 15 minutes, I guess she didn't like the taste.. :) She claimed to have had 25 customers or so and claimed I was the 2nd person she gave a BBBJ too. Kinda believeable, she was telling me most of her customers are of course Japanese. After a 2nd round in the middle of the night, I just let her go back to the casa because I didn't want her to stay until morning.
The bad experience I had with casas was one that had a metal gate in front and you walk through a door through the metal gate. This is in Ermita. The house was near the corner of the street. Once pass the metal gate, you enter the garage, you enter the door in front of you on the right corner. Best I can describe for now. Anyway, basically, the she left really quick and it was a total waste of money. After this incident, I know to check out the girl physically too. This girl hid a lot of her fat by wearing clothes right, more ugly than I first thought once the make up came off.
The last time I went, I went to this casa called Rita's. I first checked them out, then left and called later to get the girl to come over to my Hotel. The Hotel service at the InterContinental in Makati was really good. Very safe. The girl I wanted and another girl came to my room, the lobby called and asked if they could come up. After I paid the 2nd girl who left, the lobby called again to ask if she was allowed to leave. Man, this is makes it so easy to prevent getting ripped off or having a runner. The girls know it too so you know you'll get your money's worth and they won't leave in the middle of the night while you are sleeping. Props to the IC hotel.
I think Rita is a new Casa cause the girl she was 20 years old claimed that I was her 4th customer ever, I believed her because she was so into it. I usually don't like kissing but this girl just wanted to make out like crazy, she kinda started getting teary eyed at first because I think she was kinda scared, kinda sad.... so I can tell she was new in the biz, so of course I was nice to her, as all of us are. Anyway, we just did it once and I tried anal on her but it hurt her way too much. I never did anal myself before because the gf would never but I just wanted to try and this girl let me but obviously she never did it before either. It really didn't work out even with the lube. The mamasan called me twice to verify the girl came and later again to verify I was happy with the service. Also in the morning called again to verify the girl didn't run off or anything and I was happy. I only did her once and didn't want a BBBJ because I kinda got scared. I always test out the girl to see if she will go BB, and this girl agreed, don't like that cause obviously if I can, so can every other guy out there. I value my life more than that. Since I only wanted to do it once and I told her that. She kept asking in the middle of the night for more sex, this girl was hornier than me. So to satisfy her, I got a banana, covered it with a condom and fucked her with that until she came. Just didn't feel like doing her again after she said she would go BB.
She was telling me her Casa was fairly new and that out of the 4 girls I saw there including her, the one of them was new and never had a customer, should of tried her out. And that the girl that came with her was in the biz for like 5 years so she was the money girls.
Oh yeah, I checked out Harrison's Plaza for some mall action. Apparently, there's some girls there. There is but most were pretty ugly, not very attractive. They hang out on the 2nd floor by the railings. The mall is more of a locals mall, not very good stores anyway.
Ok, that's about it.
Happy Punting.
Mool
For those of you looking for genuine chinese girls in PI
try going to Peace Lodge Hotel in Binondo
Go to Rm 501 and 415. You must speak mandarin though.
3k for a one pop.
G'day all.
On my way to Manila in a couple of weeks for a few days mongering and I was wondering if I could get an update on venues for quality freelancers.
Last time I was there, the Hard Rock and L.A. Cafe were two places that I found were good for local freelance ladies. Could anyone give me an update on the numbers and quality of these places plus any promising leads of other likely hangouts of freelancers.
Has anyone tried J. R. lately?? I am really looking for some hot ladies this time around and I was wondering if I could get a name and description for any "hottie" they have met through Ray's intro. services lately??
Thanks in advance.
Cheers and many beers,
Osakagin
Yep, L.A. Cafe is still very popular amoung foreigners with many local freelance ladies of all kinds of shapes & sizes to suit and fit us horny men. If you want to try a different place, you may find it interesting at Grand Boulevard Hotel, Roxas Boulevard where the Silahis Casino is located. It's at the 8th floor, known as "Sky Line". Last week I went there. Gosh there's a lot of new & hot chicks! Big tits! Killer legs! You name it. Just make your choice from the big selection available in the "aquarium" room.
Room fee is P1,200 inclusive massage for 60 minutes. For extra service, you will need to negotiate directly to your selected babe. Usually, initially they'll try to ask for P2,000 for full service but don't spoil the market. P1,500 is the norm! Of course unless you would like to give a small tip. I really had a good time there. My girl could really massage me well & took good care of me. Gosh, she could lick so well that I mourned in pleasure when she licked my balls as if she was licking ice-cream. Know what I mean? :)
I had tried J. R. service once only a few weeks back but unfortunately his fee was way too high! Not worth it. I rather search for myself. The "Buy & Sell" news paper has many "Escort" advertisement. This is a high end service and usually very expensive, ranging from the cheapest P8,000 to P15,000 per pop! :) These hot babes are from the A+ class such as models, flight attendants, college students, etc. Most with super body: good height, nice tits, excellent complexion & veryyy pretty! Too bad this category is beyond my reach. Sigh.
I will be in Manilla next week. I will be staying in the Shangri La in Makati. I have read this is not the best local for mongering. What would the experience mongerers suggest I do? Is there anything close that is reasonable ($20 - 40 USD)? Have a cab take me to other areas suggested in the forum? Take up freelancers at the hotel bar?
I would really like to enjoy myself but I am a little concerned. PLEASE HELP.
Xtra Cash
Hello All,
Has anyone stayed at the Atrium Hotel at the corner of Taft and Sen. Gil Puyat avenues? Its listed on Asia Travel for p1500 and looks pretty good. I'll be in Manila for 3 days and I'm looking for nice hotel pretty close to the airport.
Also, where exactly is the LA Cafe? I've heard a lot about it but no clue as to it's location.
Thanks
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Metal Gear
[i] The "Buy & Sell" news paper has many "Escort" advertisement. This is a high end service and usually very expensive, ranging from the cheapest P8,000 to P15,000 per pop! :) These hot babes are from the A+ class such as models, flight attendants, college students, etc. Most with super body: good height, nice tits, excellent complexion & veryyy pretty! Too bad this category is beyond my reach. Sigh. [/i][/QUOTE]Man, if these girls are superhot and well-educated, I wouldn't mind being their boyfriend so I could get free sex everytime I visit PI. hehe.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Go Big Red
[i]Hello All,
Has anyone stayed at the Atrium Hotel at the corner of Taft and Sen. Gil Puyat avenues? Its listed on Asia Travel for p1500 and looks pretty good. I'll be in Manila for 3 days and I'm looking for nice hotel pretty close to the airport.
Also, where exactly is the LA Cafe? I've heard a lot about it but no clue as to it's location.
Thanks [/i][/QUOTE]
I wouldn't exactly call Gil Puyat "close to the Airport" - it's in Pasay and NAIA is in Paranque.
I don't offhand know _that_ hotel, but certainly within 20 blocks there's got to be literally a thousand hotels to choose from. As for a hotel much closer to the airport - that could be difficult if you expect to speak English a lot and see _any_ foreigners in the neighbourhood.
As for "where's LA Cafe"? Try the north-west Corner of L.A. Del Pilar and (I think) R.Salas (pretty sure it's a block down from Santa Monica Street. Del Pilar is one block up from the bay (not counting Roxas Blvd), between Roxas and Mabini. R. Salas is one block North of Pedro Gil. For the direction impaired - if Manila Bay is to your left then you're looking north. If you're more than three blocks up from the bay or further north than Padre Faura you've gone too far. On the other hand if you're in Pasay you're not even in the same baranguay, you're not even in same "city"!
Hope this helps.
My escape from the house for a business meeting in Makati yesterday fortunately left me a few hours of spare time late in the afternoon for a quick trip to G-Point in Ermita to meet an old friend. Set up my alibis with trusted local male friends once I realized I could squeeze a few hours. Cell phones are great that way, just make sure you have an arrangment with your female friends to *only* text you when you text them and tell them it's safe and for how long. If you have a filipina wife or steady girl then you know that she will have this habit of checking out your cell phone frequently - they're just protecting their investment in you. If you don't have a filipina, then unless you already know the girl well enough (which does NOT just mean the 3rd time you slept together after being introduced by someone you slept with before - I lost my original cell phone here that way!) ... then you don't even want her to know you *have* a cell phone yet. Careful who you trust, ha? Anyway, I digress, and you guys already know all that stuff, di ba?
While my friend was caught in traffic and I'm having my second *large* beer - not sure why the second beer showed up "on the house" but I wasn't complaining ... this absolutely cute 5'nothing girl walks in wearing an ice-cream cone and 3 friends (and some decent clothes) and casts the nicest smile directly at me. Of course the staff tell her to eat her ice cream outside. They're back in 10 minutes; it takes her about 5 minutes to work up the courage to walk over and say hi. She tells me she's in Manila now for 4days from her province, because her restaurant job back home for 80pesos/day isn't enough to buy milk for her baby - good reason! She struggles with English, so when I open up with enough Tagalog to converse she just totally melts.
I level with her that I really *am* waiting for a friend, so she asks nicely if it's ok to sit with me anyway, or will my friend get pissed? Walang problema! Long story short (there was a good hour of friendly talk and her warming up more), she is *so* cute and *so* nice (just a really nice regular girl hard up for pera) that eventually I take her hint and ask her if a few hours with her is ok before I have to be on my way home. Of course, *that's* when my "old" friend finally shows up, so I make introductions, catch up on things with her, ask her to make friends with my new friend to clue the new friend in on a few things to keep her out of trouble, which my old friend does with me contributing the odd hopefully helpful observation. Since my own clock is ticking, I check with my friend and she doesn't mind if I go out with the new girl, since my friend also has her "monthly friend" right now - which I know is true as her cycle unfortunately happens to match my wife's almost to the *hour*. The new little friend's 3 unlucky companions already left to go to LA Cafe in search of tourists who aren't quite as picky and have tons of money to burn, so my old friend does me a favour and takes the new girl down to the corner to wait for me cause we like doing the discrete thing.
(Hope by now you're not too confused by the various "friends!)
Quick jeep ride (which she insists on paying for) to Hotel Sogo on Mabini (which is down Del Pilar to one-block N of Querino then walk left one block to Mabini), 190 pesos for the room for 2 hours, and this teeny girl is the most wonderful combination of shy and all over me. I'm inclined to believe her that she hasn't had "it" since her boyfriend died 6 months ago. She said the one guy she met before me wasn't exactly satisfying when all they did was a bj. (You can figure out the next couple of hours.) I don't normally hand out money these days, but since she was obviously in need, she was very happy with the 500peso note I gave her. Too bad she can't afford a cell phone, but I do hope she stays in touch with my older friend now that they know each other so that I can see her again.
I really do need to find time for a beer at G-Point more often. :) I miss living in Malate.
I also have to shake my head about those people who pay 3000 pesos for pros already spoiled by japanese tourists! Really! Help a needy girl, there are many many thousands of them - with a few hundred pesos - instead of throwing maraming pera (tons of money) at some stuck up hard-pro! Infinite choices, ya know?
(I'll post "On the way home from Ermita" seperately - we really should have a seperate section for Cavite as kind of a 'burb of Manila.)
On the way home from Ermita ....
I stopped in at a locals bar on my way home (sorry I can't tell you exactly where cause I could get in deep sh*t - but if you know Cavite then you can understand "somewhere between Kabila and SM Las Pinas"). The exact location doesn't really matter because there are tons of these places with the little Christmas-tree lights and a few girls hanging around (but at least stick to the places that have a paid guard, ok?).
Decided I'd have "a beer" ... and shortly wound up invited over to a table, talking to a +real+ local whose Tagalog was mostly blowing me away and who'd had enough beers not to want to understand "dahan-dahan". He didn't invite me over to get a free beer (in fact he bought _me_ one later), but I knew that would happen. He just wanted to meet and talk to the new dude in the neighbourhood who's not quite as brown but close to the same age as him. Never toss caution, but *most* filipinos are really just honest friendly people; just watch out for the hardcore unemployed which was not the case - so ok, I guessed right and stayed lucky.
We talked about things and life and Phils and his wife and my wife and "babae" in general and I got some hints, just I only had 1/2 an hour and couldn't stay to really find out. Between the "scenery" and what I did catch of what he was trying to tell me despite the blaring karaoke, this place might be worth stopping in at again next time I'm passing by. If any of the girls are available then they're probably free or almost free way out here (depends on who you are and how you approach it, right?), not that it costs anyone who knows what they're doing much if anything in Ermita either. :) Since I know there's no such thing as "no available girls" if you play it right ...
I however wouldn't recommend these teenie bars full of non-English speaking locals in the boonies for the faint-of-heart tourist. Even some of my filipino friends are leary about going into them, but I think as long as you know your way around and enough Tagalog, buy one round of beers discretely for your table (don't play "big spender"!), keep your act together, and then you should be ok. Do avoid the place if the locals are too drunk - you don't want to get caught in the middle of some drunken brawl over someones lack of singing skills - they take these things pretty seriously and people have been known to get knifed or shot that way. Though I've walked into and quickly out of many places, my wife would give me total shit if she knew I *ever* stop in to check out such local venues, so don't underestimate that there is certainly some element of danger in little strange places, though still seems a whole lot safer than the equivalent back in North America!
BTW, I was there alone, but if you're half-way smarter than me you'd go with a bunch of filipino friends!
One of these years I might have an interesting observation to pass on, with a bit of luck and hopefully sufficient survival skills. Have to remember NOT to drink too much if that's what I'm doing, not to mention *watch* my beer to make sure I know what's in it. Not that anyone would actually want my parts for resale, but sometimes people do disappear and are later found missing a few parts.
If you're going "there" make sure you know how to +be+ the "good and decent transplanted filipino-wannabe". Do NOT go there as a "tourist"! Hah - and now I remember I was dressed for the business meeting I had earlier that day - right down to the shiny black biz shoes the wife insisted I wear - I really shouldn't have done any of that! I also probably shouldn't even post this, but I will, just read with appropriate caution; life is an adventure.
One last post before I crawl back into my cave in the "province" ...
There's someone who I won't name who owes this forum a "trip report" who in fact is a really nice guy who's since probably just gotten way too tied up with life or whatever.
It's about a year ago now that I noticed him here looking for advice. I offered what I could. He wrote back and eventually did come here in the fall of '02 on my recommendation with the info I passed to him. Alas, for whatever reason I lost touch with him after.
I remember giving enough advice to help him connect with a very nice little innocent virgin who cared for him and looked after him from the moment he showed up a the airport to the moment he left. She was in love. I hope they still are - I don't know.
I remember them coming over to our place when we had the Malate condo and the four of us having dinner twice in our place. I went nuts on the groceries and my wife (then gf) spent all day preparing.
I remember showing him around Malate; places to go, women to do.
I remember sharing quite a few beers and picking up a few tabs.
I remember laughing with him about the way-too-young girl who sat on my lap and said her name was "YumYum" who I sent over to sit on *his* lap, on the way out of LA Cafe as we left to go back to the bar where I had things all set up and ready for him for a time he'd remember.
I remember taking him around to help him find a suitable hotel room in Ermita for some private fun and then making sure that fun happened for him.
I remember introducing him to one of my *real* friends. I remember him telling me that he had a pretty +good+ time on the cheap with her friend when she promptly hooked him up with her. (Not to mention what I heard from my good filipina friend privately after - who incidentally asked me yesterday ---- what ever happened to **** !)
I remember giving what advice I could for him to try to get his filipina gf into his country.
He was kind enough to send me some of the pics he took of us all together, but what I +haven't+ seen is his trip report here, nor have I heard from him.
We met +in+ this forum. He promised he'd share what he learned and experienced here, here. Yet, wala! :(
The point is ... to those who benefit from us worn Tshirts in this Forum, please *do* give something back to the community, ok? Help the next guy, ok?
If you remember this, post. If you remember anything like this, courtesy of any other veteran, and suddenly feel guilty ....
[QUOTE]Originally posted by NiteWing
[i]Man, if these girls are superhot and well-educated, I wouldn't mind being their boyfriend so I could get free sex everytime I visit PI. hehe. [/i][/QUOTE]
You *can* have a part-time filipina gf! You can have a full-time one if you want to dedicate. You can have both if you can manage it. You can have many many many - oh, you'll run out of money and won't have enough of yourself to distribute! I know more than a few filipinas who would be happy to have you "contribute" to their welfare on an ongoing basis. Just don't expect them to be "exclusive" if you can't convince them that *you* are "exclusive" to them. You can do the "exclusive thing too", but it will require effort
(which can be well worth it!) Though then, juggling becomes a +whole+ lot more complex. Bottom line is: how much money do you have and how thin you can get away with spreading yourself? Gratuitous advice: don't spread youself too thin.
Don't mind if they're executives, flight attendants, sales girls, whatever ... just pick the right one, get it together with her, make sure she knows when you're coming and keep her happy when you're not in the Phils, and you WILL be happy starting when she picks you up at the airport. This is one place you can have just about anyone you want. I really doubt there's any easier place on the planet. Sometimes I wish I could clone myself, and I sure as hell don't think I'm any great catch but who am I to argue with a filipina's desire.
If you loose one, don't fret. It's fun having more tripping over you. Only problem is when there's no room for "more", 1/2 :)
Oh, I neglected to mention ... about your concept of "free sex" ... if you add it all up, nothing is free, anywhere! Think about that. Just that here life costs you a LOT less, and who you're with would be someone you could only dream of and drool over "back home", while more filipinas drool over you, ok? Damn hard place to live in sometimes!
To my fellow mongers,
Just arrived in Manila, currently working in Makati for a few weeks. Already been to the old stomping grounds. If any of you guys are in town and would like to share a few SMB, just drop me note here. I will check daily.
Cheers.
Hi,
Ilongo_boy or anybody else, I will be in Manila from 7/16-7/19 for biz, if anybody would be kind enough to show me around, drop me a line at gold123@email.com, I'm probably staying at the InterCon or Shangri-Edsa.
Mool
Ilongo,
I am in Makati for a week on business. I would to hang out. I don't know what SMB is, but if it is not to heavy for this rookie, I'm in.
its a sad day. After 5 years here Im leaving. Spent past five years having the greatest of times here. Started on my first day here in Burgos.. blow job in Hollywood I recall. Ended today with a trip to Skyline in Grand Boulevard.
In between then, had bjs from lady friends in Enterprise Center,in Bonifacio, in Ayala Alabang Street. Had full sex in Enterprise Center car park and hj in NorthPark driving range.Had hjs and bjs from bar girls in most of cinemas in Greenbelt and Megamall and a great blow in Metropolis near Festival mall.
Had two girls who were waitresses from a bar called suzy wong in las pinas, one from Asian Development bank, one from Asian institute of management, and on and on.
Met many friends thru yahoo icq and irc and shagged most of them. Was a regular at Anito in pasay and kamagong Inn in pasay on many afternoons, Century Park and sometimes Shangri La in Mandaluyonong.
Had three virgins, two manila and one in Cebu.
By my count had about thirty freinds who were all free and a few who got paid.
Had an engaged friend ( 21) from Cebu come visit me and would stay at a hotel in pasay road for three days at a time. Id go back and forth from my office to her... exhausting.
Done so many great and wild things.. funnily enough, I had my business office in a hotel here ,and would always laugh to see that hotels name mentioned by players. Id even see some bar girl friends leaving in the morning, but we all pretended never to recognise each other
Was active in wsg and manila tonight and always fabricating opportunities to play whislt maintaining a respectable family front.
Took many photos of my freinds in states of undress, beeen threatened by a few but generally well treated. Its been great and now Manilas loss is a Chinese cities gain. Already started out as I mean to go on.. with ten chinese ladies found from yahoo gracing my apartment.
So for the new guys.. go out and have fun. Treat the girls well.. whether you pay or not for sex... give them respect and they wil give you everything. Be careful of the aggressive ones, they can be trouble. But remember..for everyone that looks and smiles at you..she probably has sex on her mind..you have to find the key to unlock it. And contrary to many reports about girls not liking to blow here. i never found a girl who didnt blow. and some free friends were ok with anal.
I had three days when I did the double.. ie one girl in afternoon, one at night, but i find it harder to do this now.
Gogo bananas and foxys before were my best hunting but mascara was good when it was KC bar and had a private area. I left semen all over that room.
so..goodbye manila.. and guys.. have fun.This is a dirty polluted city with many looking to rip you off..so learn filipino so you wont look like a tourist..and go have a great time. I wil miss this place but will miss the women the most.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Extra Cash
[i]Ilongo,
I am in Makati for a week on business. I would to hang out. I don't know what SMB is, but if it is not to heavy for this rookie, I'm in. [/i][/QUOTE]
Forgive me for butting in, but SMB is the shortcut for San Miguel Beer :)
And if anyone wants to hang out, just lemme know.
lo peeps,
in october i'm traveling to the philippines, before flying onto thailand.
1/ is the scene in the philippines similar to thailand with freelancers, beer bar girls and finally gogo girls? i prefer beer bar girls or freelancers myself.
2/ what are the major night life areas in manila?
3/ can somone recommend some good hotels that are clean, air-conditioned, have cable tv, good security and doesn't charge if you have a guest for the night?
4/ when i land at the airport, what is the best way to get to a hotel, taxi, and if so, how much should it be?
5/ what are the going rates for ladies, short time/long time? i'm 30 years old (look 25), slim and fit i.e. no need to pay extra.
6/ i like my ladies buxom, not large or fat though i.e. i'd choose a girl with a great rack over a girl with a great arse. i have to hunt around in thailand to find a girl with a good rack; are the filipino girls a little more well endowed?
7/ what is puerto galera and sabang beach like? i've heard this is a good place for the girls. how long does it take to there too please?
i know there are a lot of questions here, but if anyone can answer any at all, it will be much appreciated.
regards
dazzer
Hello people of all ages,
My friend and I will have a 5 to 7 nights trip in Manila from 31st July till 7th of August 2003. If any member of WSG, happen to be in Manila during this period, please drop me note/e-mail:ronaldsabit@yahoo.com. We have a couple of SunMig lights in any good place in Manila.
I also need some helpfull tips and contacts of nice goodlooking girls in the area.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by CanContrib
[i]..yesterday fortunately left me a few hours of spare time late in the afternoon for a quick trip to G-Point in Ermita... [/i][/QUOTE]Hi Guys,
I've been staying Ermita for quite sometime but havent come across this G-Point. Is it a nice bar? Expensive, many girls hang out there, etc? Will appreciate if anyone could inform me of its location.
Thanks! :)
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Metal Gear
[i]Hi Guys,
I've been staying Ermita for quite sometime but havent come across this G-Point. Is it a nice bar? Expensive, many girls hang out there, etc? Will appreciate if anyone could inform me of its location.
Thanks! :) [/i][/QUOTE]G-Point is situated on Padre Faura 25 meters from Mabini st. It is own by a swede. You think that the girls is expensive. They always try to get more. There are cheep girls in Manila if you know where to go. It depends if you compare the preis in Europe so are they very cheep and much nicer. I tell you ehere to go next time.
Andy
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Go Big Red
[i]Hello All,
Has anyone stayed at the Atrium Hotel at the corner of Taft and Sen. Gil Puyat avenues? Its listed on Asia Travel for p1500 and looks pretty good. I'll be in Manila for 3 days and I'm looking for nice hotel pretty close to the airport.
Also, where exactly is the LA Cafe? I've heard a lot about it but no clue as to it's location.
Thanks [/i][/QUOTE]LA Cafe' is on Del Pilar in Ermita area. Take a cab. A nice hotel not far from LA. Cafe' is ISEYA on del Pilar cor. Padre Faura. It is much better if you are out for joy to live in Ermita than on Taft.
andy
Hey guys, i'm new to the Manil site. What does yahoo icq and irc refer to? I know Yahoo email, IM but never heard of ICQ or IRC.
thanks.
I'm traveling to Manila August 8th. Girl I know has alluded to me bringing a vibrator of some sort with me. I really don't want to be having it pulled out in an inspection line. Anybody have thoughts on how to bring it in. They even look through check in baggage now.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ianinohio
[i]Hey guys, i'm new to the Manil site. What does yahoo icq and irc refer to? I know Yahoo email, IM but never heard of ICQ or IRC.
thanks. [/i][/QUOTE]
It should have been written, yahoo, icq (www.icq.com), irc. They are all Instant Messaging (IM) services. irc stands for internet relay chat. Yahoo has an Instant Messaging facility as does MSN. AOL has one but deliberately trys to keep others out of it.
Hi fellas,
Sorry to bombard you with questions in my original post. I'm mostly interested in a decent hotel in Manila near the action and a list of places to find good looking freelancers at a good price.
Cheers
Dazzer
PS The going rates for short/long time would also be appreciated.
Thanks Lotsafun, I met some Filipinas on Cherry Blossom and we are chatting on Yahoo IM. Does anyone know if that is a good place to meet Filipinas or is it just a scam?
Peace
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Metal Gear
[i]Hi Guys,
I've been staying Ermita for quite sometime but havent come across this G-Point. Is it a nice bar? Expensive, many girls hang out there, etc? Will appreciate if anyone could inform me of its location.
Thanks! :) [/i][/QUOTE]
G-Point, the place where the waitresses wear different matching costumes every day and remember your name when you come in, and what you usually drink? Where you can actually run a tab and expect it to be honest come time to pay it?
You'll find G-Point on the south side of Padre Faura, 1/2 way between the Watsons drugstore on the Mabini corner and the 7-11 on the Adriatico corner, straight across the street from the Jolibee. About a year and a half ago I was wasting some time at London Underground when a fellow foreigner bought me a beer and clued me in on G-Point. I checked it out a week or so later and now if I happen to be in Ermita and want to go out for a beer that's usually where I go, though sometimes I wind up with more than just a beer, but sometimes that just can't be avoided.
Happy hour beers are 30 pesos (get the Carlsberg draft, it's just as good as the SMB and the mug is double-sized, vrs the puny half-sized SMB mugs you pay way much more for at LA Cafe!). If you stay after 9pm that mug will cost you 50pesos, which for a fairly nice bar is pretty good, or you can pay much more for much less in other mostly less attractive environments. Or - someone may buy you a beer. Second last visit a lady I know bought me two beers when she saw me on her way out. She owns a real business now so I don't mind, she can afford to be nice to me now.
The G-Point population varies. Sometimes it's very quiet, sometimes it's wall-to-wall yummies, but if you're there for 2 or 3 hours you should get lucky no problem if that's what you want. What I really like about the place is that it's low-key and the girls respect that and you. Sometimes I just go in for a beer. Like yesterday. But somethings things just "happen", like yesterday.
I was in the neighbourhood and it was almost noon, it was hot, and I was thirsty. They let me in 15 minutes before they actually open and beer appeared. Come noon so did a girl I've spent a bit of time with before, so we chatted. After 2 beers I was on my out when another girl I know from earlier escapades shows up, and of course she comes over to talk to me too. She hadn't seen me for a while and got quite friendly sitting on her own stool with her legs planted on mine. Was she trying to tell me something or was she just enjoying an inner thigh massage? Then the new girl playing pool comes over to join us and get her thighs massaged too. After, between pool shots she just comes over and leans on me, along with the other one who's already latched on to me, while my first friend just smiles at me and winks at the three of us, while the one waitress who's been unsuccessfully trying to get my phone# keeps staring at me as she goes by. I think a few of the other customers were staring a bit by then too.
Then these two start strongly hinting that I should take them to my house for a day's partying. I tell them I can't cause my wife will probably come home at just the wrong time (true), then I plead that I just don't have time today (true), then finally I plead poverty (also true). It's just not working - they're saying that if I can't manage anything else would I just take them to a short-time hotel "for fun"? No money, just "for fun". After an hour of sitting there with no beer left (I didn't buy them drinks either - I *had* been trying to leave) I finally gave in, texted a friend to set up an alibi, and away we went for that short-time room down at Hotel Soho [**check my seperate upcoming posting about an issue with Hotel Soho!]. On our way out I gave them what I had left just to be nice, 300 pesos to split between them "sa kumain et drinks et taxi" so they didn't have to walk back to find some rich customers. That left me with 50 pesos and some coins to barely make it home just in time to stay in good domestic graces.
Oh, the going rate if you don't know anybody yet? 500 pesos for however long you want, 300 if things are really slow and you know how to say the right things just the right way. 1000 if you're really really generous and don't know what to do with your extra money (same as the going rate at LA - after all many of the girls do go back and forth). If you have to pay for it, any more than that is silly.
Small problem with Hotel Soho, FYI.
As I mentioned in a previous posting, I rented a short-time room at Hotel Soho, east side of Mabini just north of Querino, July 30th. Usually this is a great choice - but NOT this time.
This time they said they had no P195 2-hour rooms left, but they could give me one for 3 hours at P320. When I came back 10 minutes later with more money that P320 room (really a P195 room) was suddenly P395! It gets worse though - after an hour and 50 minutes there's a knock at the door telling me "time's up!". We're in the shower getting ready to leave anyway, but they didn't know that and a deal should be a deal!
Maybe somebody screwed up. Maybe my mistake was in renting the room myself instead of just giving one of the girls the money to get it. Maybe they figured that they should charge me extra *and* short me 1/3rd the time I paid extra for because I had two girls with me? I didn't have time and inclination to argue with them then, but when I'm next there and by myself I'll be visiting their management about this. Sure it wasn't a lot of money and I was leaving anyway, but it's an issue of dishonesty and just because this is Manila doesn't change things at all.
Unless you see that I've edited positive results of my complaint to them onto the bottom of this posting, you may want to find a more honest place for your event. There are lots of others in the area, eg. Hotel Anito a couple of blocks away on LA DelPilar, Hotel Victoria, etc, though I'm not sure of the 2-hour rates there - can't be that much different though, the hotel competition is fierce.
Hi, guys. I have read some hotels in Manila and Makati where signles will be approached by pimps once checked in the room. The pimps will call and ask if you want girls, and they will bring several girls to your room for your pick.
Do any of you guys have such experience?
I mean singles.
Hey ianinohio,
Yes, Cherry Blossoms and Yahoo Messenger etc. are excellent places to meet straight and sometimes pro Filipinas. As I'm sure you know, many Filipinas are dying to meet American guys to improve their lot in life and that of their children. Treat them with respect, straight or pro, and they usually can't do enough for you.
Of course there are scammers, more everyday that the Internet exists, but if you follow this rule always (never send money to anyone you haven't met) it's hard for them to get you!
Good luck and happy mongering,
Tom
Questions on L.A. Cafe:
Have been to Manila many times but never checked this place out. My favorite place in my home town (Hong Kong) is a 'normal' bar filled with freelancers where you can go in, talk to many girls low pressure, strike a deal and go. I'm assuming from the reports I've seen that L.A. Cafe would be along these lines. I'm a little burnt out on the Burgos scene and haven't seen much of interest in the EDSA places and don't want to pay the big bucks at Miss Universe or Pegasus.
So,
1 - Is it worth the trip over from Makati to Ermita for L.A. Cafe?
2 - When is the best time? Is 8 PM too early? Is midnight too late?
Thanks!
gweilo,
1 - If you're tired of the Burgos scene, it's worth a shot.
2 - The place is open 24/7. After 9 PM, there should be plenty of girls. If not, they'll start rolling in. Make sure you take a cab. Often times, one of those hawkers will follow you and try to convince to go to one of those bars. I've heard of mongers getting attacked by these hawkers for not giving them some sort of tip for the services. Give the guy a 20 or 50 peso note and tell him thanks for his services, if you already gave him the time of day.
Always be aware in Manila, there are a lot of scammers.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by gweilo
[i]Questions on L.A. Cafe:
So,
1 - Is it worth the trip over from Makati to Ermita for L.A. Cafe?
2 - When is the best time? Is 8 PM too early? Is midnight too late?
Thanks! [/i][/QUOTE]
Hi members,
I have been a regular here, but limited to reading the postings.
Would now like to contribute and hope it will benefit current and future members.
I travel here to the Philippines regularly, for and during my "pleasure" time, I used to get assistance from JR a couple of times and also through the local classified ads.
Found one lady by the name of Rose who really offers very good selection. For those interested you may wish to contact her for your "needs" Call her at 0919 478 3478.
let me know if you're dissappointed!
CanContrib, are you going to be in Manila next week as I'd like to hook up. Both I and a friend will be splitting our time between Manila and AC. This is a pure hobbying trip. Have enjoyed your reports. Like to meet up in person and hit some of the flesh spots in Metro.
Don
NZMAL
Thanks for the input.
Instead of all members on the board spamming Rose with questions, can you please give some more info in her ladies, costs, etc.
Hi marconista
thanks for your comments on the story in the contest,i sent you a PM,actually there are a couple of pimps with fairly good selections,will post them later regards
Hi, Marconista
First and foremost, I do not want to be accused of advertising or promoting for Rose's "business enterprise".
It may be fair to say that I found her services (selection, delivery time, flexibility, eargerness to please) exceeds that of the other sources I mentioned before.
As for the ladies,
- you just have to describe the type of lady or ladies you like. I had on one occassion, she just admit that she do not have the type - instead of simply "pushing" for whoever she have at that moment.
- prices have been between 1500 - 2000 for short time and 3000 - 4000 overnight. To her overnight means 24hrs..!!
Give her a try guys. Don't thank me, thank Rose and her ladies.
NZMAL
Thanks pare CebuLocal..
Replied to PM already.
I appreciated the post of NZMAL, but I am always afraid that we scare away the mother-hen if we spam them (then they may not reply as we need). who likes hundreds of calls or SMS's with no outcome(earnings?).
About myself - I guess I will have a hard time mongering... that is, if my GF will be in the neighborhood when I visit next time. I think I will have time only to satisfy her newly found pleasures... lolz :), if you see what I mean.
Keep ut the good work, man.
Had not been to MNL in 3 years. Read this section of the board which seems to me to be slightly more for the benefit of expats living in MNL or people with enough time to explore. It would be nice to see specifics about some girls, maybe who provides better service, but I realize the girls probably don't work long enough in these places to make it worthwhile.
I got to MNL last night with little time on my hands. Stayed at the Philippine Plaza, which is girl-friendly, like I suppose all the hotels in Manila. Headed to nearby EDSA around 11PM and walked into the first bar on the left. Not sure what the name is. The selection was quite good in my opinion and a group of girls started following me as I was the only customer. More came in later, the place is open until 3AM.
Sat with 2 girls. 1 drink each and 2 beers for me came up to 780 pesos. Bar fine for one of the girls was 1000 pesos and I took her back to the hotel. Her name was Marianne, maybe a 7 and kind of shy. She did not want to quote me a price and said I should give her whatever I felt was right. She was friendly though nothing exceptional, light BBBJ and not enough GFE in my opinion. She left around 10AM and I gave her 3000 pesos, based on what I read on this board.
I will try another EDSA bar tonight and report. My lesson from yesterday is that I chose too early and then with the girls drinking with me, I did not feel like chosing another one (I know I could have of course, I am just not like that). After an hour or so, I think better choices were around, girls who were previously sitting in corners or that I just did not see. So, take your time...
Taking taxis from the Westin is a pain because they only allow their own taxis and overcharge. Also, I don't like to go too far from the hotel. I have 2 more nights, is there any other place worth exploring in this area? I read the bars along Roxas blvd were not so good anymore. Used to go there, they were kind of dumps but relatively safe, of course that was in 2000.
Thanks for your recommendations, if any.
Marconista
if she is who i think it is,since my last visit at the office of that resort,i think she should be worth the time"educating".Enjoy the experience,and thanks for the comment on the fountain junking,best regards
For Member 1127:
Please not that it is definately not compulsory to take a hotel car from the Philippine Plaza, just say you want a 'meter taxi' and wait. You may have to wait about 10 mins for a meter taxi to draw up and let someone off. I often stay at the Westin Phil Plaza.
On the money you paid the bar girl, 3000 Peso is far too much and can spoil the market for others. 1000 Peso is the accepted level.
Try LA Cafe for an evening drink, no bar fines and good prices. If you go to Edsa complex, you are right, shop around. Pick a girl, but keep cruising in the other bars and then go back if you feel the original pick is the best. If you are early this is a good approach as they are not being taken.
Good Luck!
I arrived in Manila on Sunday afternoon after a turbulent flight from Hong Kong and went straight to the Heritage Hotel on EDSA at the corner of Roxas; five minutes from the airport and more importantly, across the street from the EDSA complex of bars and girls.
Almost all reports on this forum assume the reader has been in the city but I would hazard a guess and say that many of the readers have not. So, first off. Manila. Its a huge, dirty, polluted Asian city. Definitely Third world. The roads and sidewalks are cracked and dangerous. Utility wires are strung everywhere. The pollution from the automobiles is horrendous. The streets are jam packed with traffic. This traffic is made up jeepneys (communal taxis with fixed routes that are fashioned out of pickup trucks) and drive like maniacs ; ramshackle vans and cars that wouldn't be allowed on US roads; pedicabs, bicycles etc., all competing for the same space. The stench of cooking and exhaust fumes is unbearable, as is the noise, which is persistent and overwhelming. Add the heat, and you better be staying at a nice hotel, just to recover.
So why come? Answer: the pussy is great. The girls are mostly short, brown skinned with shiny black hair, and very friendly. Its also very cheap. And they speak English.
As it was Sunday afternoon, I went with a friend to the LA Cafe, a well-known freelancer bar which is open 24 hours and is great for those quiet afternoons. The girls were competing with each other for our business and would approach the mongers one by one. One girl lifted her skirt to show that she wasn't wearing panties!! But I declined her generous offer as her teeth were so bad, but gave her 100 pesos for her effort anyway. Spoke to a few others but finally settled on one girl who, seemed determined to service me, even if she wasn't as smiling or friendly as some of the others.
We got back to the Heritage and went to work. She wasn't into kissing so as there wasn't any romance involved, I sat on her face and had her rim me, which she did half-heartedly. After that she BBBJ'd me until it was time for some missionary. By now, she was into it, but as I enjoyed the BBBJ more than the missionary, I withdrew, removed the condom, and despite her protestations, had her go down on me again. I promised her an extra 200 pesos for CIM but just before the great explosion, she let me go. Don doesn't like that. Anyway, she jumps up and starts brushing her teeth and gets dressed. I hand her 1000 pesos. She wants more. I know that short time from LA Cafe is often 500 so 1000 is quite good. If she had been a nice person I might have give more and I frequently do, but she was greedy, so I gave her an extra 20 pesos for the jeepney and that was it.
At about 10pm, my friend and I hit the EDSA Complex across the street. We went to Samba's bar, which I have been in on other trips as well. The girls are in bikinis and dance on a stage and most are quite attractive. We both selected a girl and then went to eat. Afterwards, we went back to the hotel and began.
This girl was concerned that her pussy was too small. Now I'm not the biggest guy around, but the alternative was BBBJ and rimming, and that's ok too. She was 23yo, and very sweet, but not skilled in the ways of amor. Frequently I had to tell to not to use her teeth etc. But we managed to complete the deed and went to sleep. I got horny again around 6am and woke her up for more of the same and she bailed out immediately after I finished. Damage--2000 pesos.
I'm in Angeles City as I write this. We arrived here at 4pm after a three-hour taxi ride and are staying at the Orchid Inn. Its about 7pm or 8pm and so far, AC is even more run-down than Manila. But I just got here so I will reserve judgment and report on the AC board as soon as something interesting transpires.
Don
Fastpiston,
Noted your comments on the price...but 1000 pesos for all night?
Anyway, went to the pitstop at EDSA the next day. Unlike the first place (whose name was Casino) neither the girls nor the mamasan were pursuing the customer, which was kind of unexpected. None of the girls fancied me, so I moved on to Firehouse next door.
I told the FM I was looking for all-night GFE and she recommended Lica, a very sweet girl with beautiful eyes, whose charms are best observed after some conversation. I really liked her and she appeared to be enjoying herself as well. Perhaps not the most skinny or beautiful girl, but great GFE, DFK, BBBJ and a very enjoyable company. I thought I would give her a little publicity, she deserves it. Guys, you ought to be kind to her...
I met Mary in Boracay. She is now in Manila. Maybe some of you would like to call her. She said I could put her number on the internet. Her cell phone number is +63-920-825-3939. She is "A" cup, 42 kilograms, 5 feet tall approximately, cute, doesn't drink or smoke. She might want to meet a foreigner to marry. Sometimes she needs money to send to her family back in the province. She is very nice. She sometimes has 4 orgasms in one hour.
What's up everyone,
I want to give all members a large 'Thank You' for contributing to this site. I know I haven't been the best member by posting my own reports. I have to make a suggestion towards those who feel it's so dangerous to trust a cab driver. My first time/night in Manila was wonderful. I trusted a cab driver right from the airport. He was a hustler right from the masses of cabbies in the pick-up area. When he approached me, he was offering to take me to one of his hotels. I told him I already have one picked out and he should take me there if he wanted my business. He dropped me off and offered to take me out once I checked in. I agreeded due to the conversation we had on the drive over. He took me to a local kareokee bar and we had a couple rounds. He asked if I wanted to hit a filipina club with some knock-out girls and I said 'sure'. Looking back on this decission, I have no regrets. I spent three more weeks in the PI after this night and the club he took me to had - by far - the best looking women I have ever paid for. The security was totally far-out. Armed gaurds at the door, full search upon entrance, and I swear the door locked behind us upon entrance. I had a couple drinks once inside and shagged one of the finest I've ever had in one of their private rooms. I prefer the pale skin filipina to the other more common. I paid 1500 peso for the room and her professional service. Well worth it and all because I trusted a cabbie. Granted I could have been knived and taken for whatever I had, but sometimes you need to feel things out to experience an offered adventure.
Thanx for all the outstanding info from you members - you've all helped me with my travels through the PI and Thailand.
This is Melith. Previously, I had thought that her name was Mary. Sorry for any inconvenience.
I will upload the photograph first and then type some info in the next post.
Well, I just tried to upload 2 photos.
I found out that Mary is an incorrect name. Her name is actually Melith. Age 22.
(This is a continuation of my post of 3 days ago.)
It's OK to call her anytime, 24 hours a day.
Sensi,
please provide info on the name of the club. You left us all hanging by saying you saw the best looking women - by far - but, didn't tell us where.
thanks.
For Steve:
did you post the photo yet ?
cheers,
Lalake
Steve:
Oops....I see the photo now. Very cute.
thanks
Lalake
[QUOTE]Originally posted by wiggums
[i]gweilo,
[...] one of those hawkers will follow you and try to convince to go to one of those bars. I've heard of mongers getting attacked by these hawkers for not giving them some sort of tip for the services. Give the guy a 20 or 50 peso note and tell him thanks for his services, if you already gave him the time of day.
Always be aware in Manila, there are a lot of scammers. [/i][/QUOTE]
... and accomplish what? Show him that you have money to give away for nothing and that he should continue to follow you because obviously you have a lot more where that came from and should give that to him too?
Geez, don't be giving money to the street pimps unless you actually "purchased" their services (and usually you DON'T want to be doing that anyway). Most of them are out there looking for some stupid clueless victim. Giving them money just encourages them to pester anyone who remotely looks like a foreigner, and the y're already a major pain in the posterior.
Late at night, especially after midnight, avoid dark unpopulated streets. Know when you should be crossing the street to the side *away* from being approached. Know when you're on the *wrong* street and get yourself elsewhere. Know when to hop on a jeepney or into a taxi to get away if that's your last resort. You should never be in a situation where you need to fear attack, and if you are in such a situation then you definately did something you shouldn't have done.
Pimps that follow you around and are persistantly annoying certainly are NOT someone you want to be dealing with. Do NOT trust them to take you anywhere remotely safe, you certainly won't get any bargain, but you may get ripped off or worse. Don't trust anyone who doesn't go away when you politely say "no thanks" even if you have to resort to saying it in english. If they follow you instead of giving up, you may indeed have a problem, so at your earliest opportunity find someplace with a guard outside and duck into there. Wait 10 minutes or more - have a burger or drink or whatever, then do your best to avoid that cretin when you leave if they're still around.
Also try to avoid answering any questions they toss at you. Your money is already pesos, you have a great gf, you live a few blocks in some unspecified place down the street, you're from somewhere far away from where his relatives are in your country, you have friends here, etc. Sure, some of the street guys are ok, but you should be able to figure out which end is up in the first 5 seconds, and for some reason you're not sure then let good discretion guide you, not the pimp.
While we're on this topic, if you're a casual visitor, stay away from locals bar s and karaoke places. If you don't know how to mingle with the locals then *don't*, especially if they're drunk which they probably are in such places. If you're not sure about a place then don't linger to find out things you really don't want to learn. If you are in some hole-in-the-wall, watch your drink lest it get spiked with something nasty; ditto about accepting drinks from people you don't know and beware that looks can be deceiving. That goes for women too - just because they're mostly honest, they're not all honest. Etc. Nuff said?
You're not in Disney-land, so treat it more like you would wandering around the slums of Orlando or any other North American city, and this is Asia where your body parts may be considered saleable, and being 3 blocks from the US Embassy at 3am isn't going to help you one little bit.
Be street-smart, especially on the street!
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dashing Don
[i]CanContrib, are you going to be in Manila next week as I'd like to hook up. Both I and a friend will be splitting our time between Manila and AC. This is a pure hobbying trip. Have enjoyed your reports. Like to meet up in person and hit some of the flesh spots in Metro.
Don [/i][/QUOTE]
Don, sorry but I just saw your query, and this is the week after "next week". I actually was in metro Manila a couple of times last week, though on biz not fun. Hope you found your way to what you wanted though!
**Jackson, in case you manage to pick up on this - what we need here is some sort of anon remailer. I have too many reasons why I can't post my personal contact info, but I wouldn't be adversed to good people having a way to contact me sureptitiously, especially since I spend most of my time out here in the boonies these days just working and quietly bored stiff until I just can't take it anymore and make a quick trek into the city to see some friend (or meet a new one) to remind that I'm still alive.
I am heading to Manila on Thursday and will arrive around 11pm. Getting a flight to Boracay the next morning at 9.30am so just wondering what would be my best bet for a hotel as close as possible to the airport?
Cheaper the better but one with an incall massage service would be welcomed....
Also what's the weather like around Boracay at this time of year. I know it's the rainy season but is it like in Korea where it can rain no stop for days at a time or will there be any opportunities to soak up some sun?
any info appreciated
tnx
paddy
(this is my first trip to pi)
Paddy,
firstly I would say to stay in Manila for 2 nights (or more) not just one. By going to Boracay, you might not find the women you expect to see. Many holiday goers take their own girls to Boracay because the pickins' are slim down there. Plus you'll need the time to rest if you are coming from a long flight.
But, if you do stay for only 1 night, its best to stay near the airport. Look for hotels that are in Pasay or on Roxas Blvd.
Of those, I would strongly recommend the Heritage since it is across the street from the bar complex known as EDSA. This place is strongly recommended.
Or you can try other hotels in Pasay such as Bayview Park, or Manila Midtown, both of which are further away from the action and from the airport but, are much cheaper than the Heritage.
As for incall massage service, I can't comment.
Good luck
Lalake
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**Jackson, in case you manage to pick up on this - what we need here is some sort of anon remailer. I have too many reasons why I can't post my personal contact info, but I wouldn't be adversed to good people having a way to contact me sureptitiously, especially since I spend most of my time out here in the boonies these days just working and quietly bored stiff until I just can't take it anymore and make a quick trek into the city to see some friend (or meet a new one) to remind that I'm still alive. [/i][/QUOTE]
I agree whole heartedly and gets my second vote.
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LaLake,
Didn't mean to leave you guys hanging about the name of that club. Thruth is, I have no idea what the name was. The point of the post was I trusted a cab driver and got lucky. The other point is filipina clubs have better looking girls than the ones we foreingers are allowed in. So make a male filipina friend and have him show you into filipina clubs. You'll see the difference.
Hi GROpapa,
You and your man Jay R sounds like a couple of guys that I need to get to know to make my next Philippine trip filled with fun and excitement. I hope to visit the Philippines in December for about 2 weeks. I'll be staying with relatives for the first few days which I'm not that excited about since I'll be staying in their small condo where I wont have any privacy. They dont know I’m coming to the Philippines so maybe I shouldnt even tell them that I’m coming to the Philippines? hmmmm?. This is of course MY VACATION where I hope to do what I want to do on my own terms. diba? I was thinking that idea of JayR picking me up from the airport with his girls on hand seems like something that I could be VERY interested in. My email address is: Albert@PimpDaddy.com (it‘s easy to remember, diba? hahaha). Send me an email and we'll discuss my trip.
New York Pinoy
Try Jing at +63-919-2967558.
Age 28.
Quick report on Manila. I've got lots of useful info from this forum so just trying to give a little back.
Stayed at the Heritage opposite EDSA, handy for the airport and decent rooms, girl friendly. Was just about the only punter in EDSA but still they wanted 1000 peso bar fine and had my 1000peso offer for ST turned down, hate paying over the odds.
So went to LA Cafe and almost got mobbed there are so few punters in town, chose my girl and didn't even bargain when she only wanted 1000 and of course no bar fine at the LA. She got genuinely wet and took it nice and deep so gave her a good shagging twice and threw her out as I wanted to kip.
Next day tried LA Cafe again in the afternoon, saw same girl but of course I've come for variety. Met up with a girl who was soon coming back with me for 1000. Showered first and she started BBBJ in the shower, too quick for me so dried off and to the bed, best BJ ever (and I've had a few), CIM with it dribbling ever so tastefully out of her mouth afterwards. She looked like she really enjoyed it, Quick rest and then produced a pair of tights for her to put on so I can indulge my fantasy. She thought I wanted to wear them, soon put her right ,she got them on and after fingering her through the tights I ripped a hole in them and got to work. Got plenty of KY on her arse and gave her a very thorough shagging doggy style through the ripped tights. She was so good at BJ I just had to get her to finish me off that way again, she licked me clean and then greedily swallowed again.
Did I want to see her again? Of course not, much more to do.
Took a trip to P Burgos to the Ivory, 3000pesos bar fine I laughed out loud, bought a few drinks while getting a good grope and back to the LA cafe.
Remember it is the same girls in the LA cafe, you just don't pay too much for it. G point round the corner also good but quieter. Anyone recommend any others?
can you recommend an affordable hotel near some of the action?
K I went out with Jay R my guide yesterday after a fairly long (ehrr 6 weeks I think hehe) hiatus from the club scene. There are alot of newcomers and I do believe I'm back on the saddle as far as mongering in Manila LOL.
I got a girl out of East Asia KTV, tanned skin nice body, Tia Carrere looks. Barfined her and she's still here today, prolly gonna have her visit every once in a while until the next one comes along.
I'll be hunting for a light skinned mestiza soon since I had a falling out with one uhmm she sorta mentioned bringing her suitcase to my condo -- NO THANK YOU!
Anyhow Jay R is still a guide to the pleasures of the City of Man so give him a call or text him 0917 414 5416
He's a taxi cab driver by profession this is his sideline for those who don't know. He can guide you or bring girls to you at your hotel. Very trustworthy and friendly customer oriented guy as many from this board who have used him I think will testify to.
I live in Manila now and use his services regularly, he's never too busy.
Hoy GROpapa,
Salamat for your recent postings and reports on your personal experiences in the Philippines. Your info has been helpful as I always enjoy reading what you have to say.
Besides the phone/text number you posted on Jay R... does he have an email address where we can correspond via email? I'm going to the Philippines (hopefully if all things fall into place) in December and I plan on using his guiding services.
Do you have any ideas as to which hotels are the best for staying in? I'm still searching for hotels in the area which are not too expensive as well as luxurious. It doesnt have to be a 5-Star place but I would like it to be as nice as a 3 or 4 star hotel with ample security as well as room service.
I hope to meet you as well as Jay R in the near future. Let's have some fun!
NYpinoy
Lalake wrote suggesting Manila Midtown ... response"ing feature seems gone right now, but ...
Manila Midtown, if we're talking about the same place, *was* at the corner of Pedro Gil and Adriatico in Malate, not in Pasay.
Doesn't matter though, since they closed it this spring and are tearing it down to build some more Robinsons condo towers.
If that's the area and *# you want, try up the street (Pedro Gil) a few blocks on the right. Don't remember the name but you'll find it. If you hit the LRT you went too far. Alternatively go down around U.N. Ave, there's a few semi-upscale around there.
Better yet, try the Executive Plaza on Mabini just south of Pedro Gil. Talk them into a decent room at a good rate if they're not busy. P1500 got us a *very* nice room a couple of months ago when akin asawa at ako decided to spend the night in Malate instead of making the trek home. Asawa talked them into free breakfast voucher too (not that we actually got to use it). Not sure how they are about bringing in stray girls, but hey, it's Mabini in Malate! Just act like you're together and life should be good.
Hi! Don't know if any of you guys still remember me but I got some suggestions for hotels near the mongering zones...usually relatively cheap and decent. Around 3 star each...
Manila - Palm Hotel, Pavillion, Traders Hotel, Silahis International, Bayview, Swagman
Advantages? All are near the EDSA complex (around a 15 minute cab ride), LA Cafe, and malate (although this is not really a mongering place, great fun for the street parties!), Roxas boulevard for upscale strip joints and lower class MP's
Quezon City - Aberdeen Hotel, Hotel Rembrandt, Camelot
Advantages? Located on or near Quezon Avenue, home of the mid to upscale strip joints and massage parlors in the city (usually haunted by Filipinos though...I'd advise foreigners to enter these places with a pinoy friend...much better selection than other places though!) SW can be found along Quezon Ave near the Maalikaya MP, but quality tends to suffer...although a lot of guys pick up girls here...
Makati - Discovery Suites, Century Inn
Advantages? Walking distance to P.Burgos street, home to upscale strip joints that cater to foreigners. (Jools, Rascals, Bananas, etc) SW near Mandarin, but watch out! Most are TV's...
Anywayz, I miss good ole Pinas. Is anyone here from New York? Just moved here a couple of months ago and am finally free enough to try to get some action. I looked in the NY thread here at the WSG but don't really understand the system...people seem to be so afraid of the cops, and they use terminology I don't understand.
Be safe guys!
P-Guy
I'm from NY also and I empathize with the difficulties of getting laid in NY. It's not as easy as heading down to EDSA. Basically, you have to connect with a SW and through her, connect with others and so on. This is one way of doing it. But if you stop for a couple of months like I did, then you have to start from scratch. I usually use the Village Voice, which usually costs $200 for an hour with a SW in her apartment. But everyone is afraid of getting busted by the police so they want ID etc. and are cautious about giving their address. So there are multiple call backs and busy phone numbers etc. It can be a hassle.
Another venue is the street scene, which I don't recommend.
Also, there are 'parties' such as the ones that ******* attends. But, these usually have black girls, which are not my thing and the reason why I stopped going.
If you need more pointers or want to hook up, backchannel me at snafle@hotmail.com.
Don
P-GUY and DASHING DON,
Glad to see other New York pinoys that post here on WSG! I'm planning on taking a 2 week vacation to the Philippines (Makati and/or Manila) along with a 2 to 3 day side trip to BKK and/or Pattaya sometime in December or early next year 2004. How long have you guys been here in New York? Have you guys tried out the MP's here in NY? If not I can take you to one so that way you can get to know the mamasan so she wont give you a hard time next time you come back to visit the place. Some of these places are somewhat paranoid if you first visit without a regular I guess because they might think that you are LE. Alot of the MP places that I've been to (for the first time) here I went with a regular who introduced me to the place. I of course paid for their session just as a thank you for getting me into some these places. I'm considerate, what can I say. If you guys plan on being in the Philippines during December, would you like to hang out and show me around? I of course will treat you to a session in the Philippines just for getting me into one of your favorite spots. Also, I have several numbers of some independant girls that work here that I can hook you up with if you're interested. One of them being a Pinay, and she's cute too which doesnt hurt, diba? I'd rather not post the girl’s numbers here, but if you're interested we can discuss about this more in detail. Email me at: Albert@PimpDaddy.com
Until then,
Happy Hunting,
NY Pinoy
Dashing Don and NY Pinoy,
Thanks for the tips! I'll be contacting you in case I need any more advice or can get away for a while...in case I can do anything for you, you can e-mail me at astinice@hotmail.com
NY Pinoy - Sad to say, I probably won't be there this December. But I suggest you ask friends to take you to either Starfleet or Air Force One in Paranaque...try both the KTV and MP's there. Being a pinoy, you shouldn't have any trouble. Bring a friend or relative to make sure...or you can try out the upperclass MP's in Quezon Avenue, which I highly recommend.
I will have a stopover in Manila from 7pm to 1.30 am. Does anyone have some suggestion for massage and fucking near the airport. Any input with addresses is welcome.
Thank you guys.
Message for JOCK...if ur still reading this forum. Im in Manila again soon so it would be great to meet up..sorry ive lost ur number. Leave a msg for me here or email me if ur still around.
As per GRO Papa, anyone thinking about using JR,s services...I can highly recommend him...always got the time and the right places to go.....give him a try...and look after him..
The Flying Scotsman..
You get what you pay for.
While the thing I like most about Asia is the abundance of GFE, where it's almost like renting a beautiful girlfrend, I also like the occasional base, down and dirty, cheap experience. Well, if you want base and cheap, you can't do much better than the area around EDSA and Taft (see steve191b's post 06-10-03). If you stand at the intersetion, looking down EDSA towards Makati, the area of action will be on your right.
This area is probably not safe. Remove all jewlry, watches, etc., and only take as much as you need for the girls... which want be that much here. Walk thorugh this area and you will be approached by both pimps/mamasans and the girls themselves. They ask 500 pesos, and take 300 pesos, and the hotel is another 100 pesos (for 3 hours, which should be more than enough.)
I tried two girls from here (one at a time). One was a 7, and the other a six. Each had great "technical skill" (meaning they were experts at making me feel great, great acting skills, sounds, facial expressions, etc., all designed to make me cum so they could move on. Absolutlely no pretense of romance by either, and no "three hour cuddles" like steve191b experienced.
Overall impression: It met my needs for a crude experience. While cheap, I wouldn't go there to save money... if you are loking for something nicer, go to LA Cafe.
Between girls, I stopped by a small go-go club down EDSA maybe a 1/2 KM, just passed a pedestrian fly-over. No nudity, but I met a stunning girl there, an 8, 20 years old. My beer was 30 pesos, and her beer was 130 pesos. She was sexy, cuddly, but when I asked about short-time (which seemed to be going on on premises) she said she didn't want to go there, and gave me her number instead, asking me to call her, which I plan to do.
I'd like to hear anyone else's experience with the street scene here in Manila.
All good things must come to an end...
Went back down to the street market at EDSA and Taft. This time picked up a cute young girl, but there was something about her that made me hesitate -- I got the impression that she didn't really want to go. Rule of thumb -- trust that first impression.
We got to the room, as soon as the money was paid, it was all attitude (bad attitude). With a scowl on her face, she started giving a hand job, and as soon as I was hard, put the condom on. Then, she continued with the handjob! I told her lets go, and she told me I was too big. I said ok, just blow me -- she said that was 1k Pesos, a ridiculusprice for that venue. I told her forget it, was just going to cut my losses. She wanted 50 pesos for the condom, which I didn't need in order to get a handjob.
The bad part was that as soon as she got out of there, she told her sisters-in-arms some shit or another, and I got the cold sholder from all the girls on that part of the street. Even worse, Since it was my second night out (and probably my tenth time walking up and down that street), the wanna be pimps on the street started following me, in mass, stopping at each girl (collectively in a gaggle) asking me if I was interested in her. Not the way I wanted to search out a new short-time.
Anyway, I just grabbed one of the girls I got the other night, and we went at it again. She worked her magic well, and I was soon on my way.
Still glad I tried it, but I think I'll stay away that section of town for the rest of this trip.
Woody.
Flying Scotsman,
How are you? Sorry, I've moved on, and am now mostly in Hong Kong. If you're passing through HK, let me know and we can meet.
I agree with you about JR. Last time I visited Manila I used him, and he took me to a n umber of casas. My tagalog is not good enough to understand the conversation he had with the mamas, and while I'm sure he took a cut out of the price I paid, it was worth it just to be driven around and shown where to go.
I went to LA Cafe the last two nights. Was not at all impressed. The ratio was terrible, about one girl per customer, and most of the girls were not good looking. Therefore the rule of thumb in the Philippines played out - tremendous competition for the very few hot ones, who of course had bad attitudes and very high money demands. Apparently this place is the best price to quality value in Manila - if so I thank god I'm leaving tomorrow, never to return.
One other amusing anecdote about the horrible Philippines - walking back from LA Cafe I noticed a girl I remembered from a few months ago in Angeles (Santos St.) calling my name from a dingy little bar/exchange place. I stopped and chatted with her, and told her I'd be interested in a short time for 500 pesos (about $9.50) like in Santos. She confered the the many creepy looking pimps in the place and suggested 1000. (Yes another Philippine problem - its infested with pimps - I suspect they're too stupid to realize as the Thais have that a bunch of thugs tend to put off the potential customer.) I figured, OK, its Manila, so I went back a little ways into the bar to pay the main pimp, and he said 2000. I said no thanks and walked out. So later I was walking by the same area and she called out to me saying it will be OK. He asked what does she want, and I said 1000 pesos, and told him that was fine. He said OK, 5000 pesos. I didn't say anything, just got up and walked out. For a girl I'd had for 500 (believe me all she was worth) 3 months before!
For so many reasons, I can recommend the Philippines be avoided at all costs.
Wats up!
Going back to Manila this December. I couldn't wait to get back there. Got a lot better after making so many trips. I still can remember my first trip back in 2001 where I took out the main model from Pegasus. Cost me a lot of dough about 12,000 pesos (for those people not familiar with Pegasus, their models are the ultimate bomb; they are not in the level of the cosmo looking blondes of Sydney but it surely does work for me). But, i think it is all worth it. She was half pinoy half american 5'3" tall. Skin like milk and a face to die for. She got the firmest natural boobs and the tighest pussy. A real prime date at 19 years old. Banged her for 2 hours straight and she was into it and unstoppable. A lot of tongue action. Did everything possible except anal. Total GFE. Last time I heard she went to Japan. If i wasn't leaving the next day I would have banged her again for 1/3 the price since there is nobody in between. In the other recent trips, I was just going to the massage place downstairs coz the bosses upstairs are tighthening up for reasons I'm not sure about. I always hit the newbies. No worries, it's 5 times cheaper downstairs. In this upcoming trip, I'm going for the starlets. Thanks GROpapa, got hold of JayR and he promised to make my dreams come true.
Opebo, do you have any skills or are you just a wimp? First time, I heard a monger give up on the first try. What would you if you do if somebody stole your pack of condoms? Go back home?
Jock.....Nice to see that ur still checking out the board and glad u met up with JR. Ive actually just spent the last week entertaining friends from Hk, so hopefully will be passing thru at some stage. Hope ur having as good a tym there as in manila.
opebo...i think ur post is very negative. Ive bn visiting philippines for twenty odd years now and never experienced the problems you are talking about. read this board and learn from the more experienced guys..and most importantly..stay away from the areas you were talking about. for the sake of saving a few bucks, its just not worth the risks..(in many ways).
Ive learnt a lot from more experienced people on this board....keep up the great work guys..!! Personally i cant wait for my next trip........ january..yeahh..!!!
Stopped by LA cafe last night around midnight. Lots of girls there, ranging from beautiful to, well, not so beautiful. Was low on cash, and was only there to window shop, but got to talking with a meztiza freeelancer who agreed to shorttime for $500. She was probably a 6 in looks, but a beautiful smile, and gave me one of the best BBBJs I've received in this country. Spent about two hours together, enough time for a couple enthusiastic rounds.
Was that $500 US Dollars? Thats pretty expensive even by US standards. I was hoping that it wont cost that much since I'm planning a trip back to "the motherland" in December or January. I'm even hoping to use the services of GROpapa's buddy JR. Hopefully I'll be able to contact him before my trip to the Philippines. Anyone going to be in Manila or Makati during January? Get back with me and maybe we can go hobbying as a group! The more the merrier.
New York Pinoy
$500 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:)
Street Hound,
An LA Cafe girl for $500?! And you think $500 in your pocket is low in cash? You must think you are in Paris or something with all the high priced hookers or you must have a big fat trust fund. Last time I checked Philippines is still a Third World country. Are you running a charity? I'm sure nothing could wipe off the grin from the girl's face for a month; not even the big hurricanes in the Philippines.
Hello Street Hound,
I must say you are crazy if you spent $500 USD. The going rate at the LA cafe is 1000 pesos ( $18.55 USD) ST and sometimes LT. You must mean 500 Pesos on your last post.
A question for accomodations. I was in makati in 9/03. very nice but can't get Balikbayan rate at the shangrila (cause Im white) and now is 135 pernight over x mas. I did love the place but never got my bearing in Makati although I did make it over to Burgous street my last night. My ? is.... should I try staying in manila ie an area closer to the nightclubs ie the edsa shangrlila. I want to see more of manila this time. I cant screww non stop ( I am 47) and I am interested in experiencing the culture of the real Philippinos for part of my vacation.
thanks in advance for your help
Ozikboy,
You’re question is a little vague to me, maybe because when I think of the word “culture”, in itself, I’m not sure what it means. Culture is such a loaded word that sometimes it doesn’t mean anything unless its placed in its right context.
Anyway, I think I know what you mean. If you’re talking about the bar scene where most locals go, then you might want to remain in Makati. Most of the bars there are decent, meaning not a whole lot of bar fights, and you’ll meet a lot of upper middle class Filipina women.
Bars: Where else ?, Wasabe, Euphoria..
Also, try the malls. When I was there last year, I hung around Glorietta mall and Rockwell. You’ll find mostly regular/non-pro filipinas in this area. I also went Paddy’s point in Timog and it was quite interesting. I found out that some women in that club were Pros.
Try to stick around areas where it’s safe. I don’t think you would like to know the bad culture of PI.
Hope this helps. Keep us posted.
P.S.
I’m planning to be back in PI around Feb of next year. Any of you regular mongers that are out there at that time, send me PM. Maybe we should start a charter A.M.A (American Mongers Assoc) in PI, with Jackson’s approval of course.
Anyway, Keep the flow of info coming.
santaclaus;
I think Ozikboy meant the real culture of the Phillipines .. eg. native food, music, normal night spots like discos and other non-sex diversions. True culture being things that locals do for fun as opposed to stuff created just for tourists. For example in Tokyo you would watch Sumo, eat at a top notch Sushi restaurant, hit the Shibuya city night clubs, visiting the open markets, visiting the Japanese temples, etc. I could be wrong, but that's how I read it.
AT2
Ozikboy.... For accomodation around nr Burgos..try the Oka Hotel on kalayaan Ave...very near Burgos (abt 50 metres :)) ) Ive stayed there a few tyms..always good and no problems tyaking guirls back.....Or try www.asiatravel.com for great deals in some manila hotels. I always stay at heritage Hotel in pasay....have never paid more than 60 USD...many clubs around there too..and a lot cheaper than burgos clubs..:)
For real Philippine culture...just get out of manila... have lots of fun and please keep us posted..
the flying scotsman
To: Street Hound
I know Miztiza beauty, the Castillan I suppose, always cost more in Manila. We have different rating scale than the rest of the ho mongers in this thread.
I onced used a service of a high end escort. She stood 5'8" (around 172 cm). Half Japanese I think She was very beautifull. The service was also excellent. Total damage was around 500 USD for overnight.
People in my condo noticed her. She screamed when I f*cked her. Anyway, the next day all the girls in my condo were nice to me. They had an idea on how much money I am willing to spend. And, all guys always looked at my d*ck every time they saw me. I think they thought I have a size of a black stallion's. But, I really hated how the Bakla stared at me.
Cheers
Jakarta After Dark the born again Satanist
JAD,
If you fully understood the rating scale of Street Hound based on what he posted, you must be beyond psychic or you are just finding gratification in praising your own self - some kind of mental masturbation I suppose. To make your anecdotes useful to us other mongers with limited psychic ability, i suggest that you stick to more primitive modes of thinking such as logical reasoning or deduction. A little modesty may also help.
I hate to let you know mongers out here who's looking for action on the streets of Quezon City, Manila, Mabini, Ermita or Malate Those girls are the "bottom of the barrel". The reason they are out there is because no sex establishment would take them. These establishments have doctors that makes sure that they are healthy before they start working. Most of these SWs have already been scared by STDs or is suffering from one. Their hygiene is highly questionable coz they are stricken by poverty which means they can't even afford sanitary products or possibly even uneducated about it. The locals wouldn't even touch them. I suggest that you stick with establishments such as KTVs, MPs and bars where you will be "safe".
Street Hound
$500 for a 6 scale girl at the LA Cafe!!! That's way out of my league. I sure hope she was worth it. When I visit L.A. Cafe this weekend and see one of the girls with a really big big smile then I cancheck out the scale your using. Heck, if you gave her $500 she probably wont be working for the next couple of weeks.
I wish I can say carrying $500 is low for me but I do not go out with that kind of cash, in dollars too around Makati or Manila.
Ozikboy
Since you want to see culture and cannot screw non-stop. I suggest to pick a nice girl and have her show you around outside Manila. Not much to see around the town except historical stuff and lots of malls or shops and of course, the night clubs.
When Filipinos themselves want culture they find the next big fiesta like "Sinulog" in Cebu and enjoy themselves. Christmas in the Phils is well... quite merry. They already started decorating this past October and gets merrier til the 25th. Forget the Shangri-la, you can find a place as nice for half the price and girl or guest friendly around Pasay or Malate.Plus it is real close to the clubs.
For most Filipinos, their greatest culture is their love of basketball, partying and just plain having a good time. Just get some feedback of some of the places you might want to go and do some research before travelling south. Way south. Have fun and be safe.
I meant pesos, sorry for the confusion.
Usually I'm not trying to be so cheap, because I find in general you get what you pay for. This night, by the time I got to LA Cafe, I only had about 1200 pesos left in my pocket (after getting a massage at a korean oriented place that ended with zippo extras, and visiting some other places). I really only intended to grab a beer and a sandwich and window shop. This girl came up and sat with me, and after a little while I started warming up to her, and her to me. I got ready to leave, telling her I just didn't have the money to spend on her tonight, but that I'd come back.
She asked how much I had, I told her I only had about 500 pesos left after paying the tab (and saving cab fare back to Makati). She said it would be fine, even after I explained I wouldn't have money for a tip. "Let's go" she said.
I was worried that service would be poor, but she really surprised me, a GFE in all. She kept commenting on how she liked that I was nice to her, and that I didn't look down on her for what she did. Kind of a funny remark, but she seemed sincere.
Again, sorry to confuse everyone with the dollars versus pesos slip (interesting to see though who few people gave the "benefit of the doubt" that it was a typo, and that most people assumed I really had paid $500. Hmmm. )
New York Pinoy,
I'll be in Manila Dec 20-21. I can show you around if you want to. I'm noypi too. Going to Mindanao to see my non-pro GFs. Quezon Avenue/Tomas Morato is my station. A lot of KTVs and MPs like Pegasus, Lexus, Heartbeat, Mystique, Stardust, etc. They got the freshest honeys. When you see one that you like just negotiate with the mamasan. They are there to make you happy. Sometimes they might think your LE when you got the crew cut and the athletic or heavy set body. You can easily convince them your not by just speaking with an American accent. I'm sure you can do that. Just one advice, buy a GSM phone and phone card upon arrival. Try to get the numbers of the honeys you meet or give them your number. Next day, you can have the time of your life that is with no middlemen. Cheapest GSM phones are about USD 60 with phone card. Save the phone for the next trip or give it as a gift (payment?) to one of your honeys when your done. Believe me it will be worth it. Another thing, girls just fall for Amboys like u and me, most of them would like to have you as there bf - no shit. They just surround you like flies.
Have fun.
To: masterblaster
I agree with most of your reasoning. Perhaps I don't really understand Street Hound's rating scale. But, I know about mine.
I sampled girls from most massage parlors in Pasay, Manila, Makati, and QC. I sampled several girls from go go bars in Pasay, Manila, and Makati. I sampled several girls from Karaoke & Bold Show Clubs in Pasay, Manila, Makati, and QC. I sampled girls from most casas in Cash & Carry area, Makati. I sampled several high price girls from the Bakla. I also sampled several kept women/soft hookers in my Condo. I refuse to name these soft hookers for reason of discretion.
I know the difference. And, I am happy with myself. If, they all are the same to you, then there is nothing I can say!
Word of advice: It has been said among Super Clubs, Pharoah in Makati (along the Creek) is the best. Try this, they won;t drain your money. KTVs are high class places for GRO, but not for glamour models.
Cheers
Jakarta After Dark the born again Satanist
Note: Out of curiousity, do you read the Black Pope Anton Szandor La Vey's works? I mean your terms sound like his.
Masterblaster,
First trip in 2001. Paid P 12,000 for a what? That was $ 300 US at that time. Reminds me of an MD who earns only the equivalent of $ 500/Month in Cebu City.
You must enjoy throwing money away. Hope she was woth it. I have been going to SE Asia for 15 years. Speak 3 Asian languages to varying degrees of fluency. Been to Phils 50 + separate trips. Don't care who she is, could be Imelda Marcos' daughter for fucking crying out loud, she IS NOT worth P 12,000. Once paid P 2,000 for a dropdead 23 yo out of "Dimples" on Burgos Street in Makati. Was after a very long dry spell here in USA working and listening to clients crying. I guess I would have crawled on the floor for a gorgeous Asian girl at that time.
Always regretted the price. Though the fuck and blowjob were both good. Still, P 1,000 for a couple hours is plenty.
Sorry guys but not familiar with GRO term or GSM phone. Thanks for the report. will be in Makati on 12/21 til 24 than on to BKK. back in makti from 1/5 til 1/9
Ozikboy
Ozikboy,
GRO stands for Guest Relations Officer. GROs are entertainers in KTVs (Karaoke bars) and a rank lower than the models. GSM is popular cell phone standard in Asia, Europe and Australia. If you buy a cell phone in the Philippines it will be in the GSM standard. North America is mostly in TDMA or PCS standard.
JAD,
I knew you can take my post. Your a sport. If your choices make you happy, who am I to complain. Pharaoh and Pegasus and all those high priced bars, KTVs and MPs are owned by the same company. Practically, all the best hobby places are owned by one company. Check www.ktvphil.com . Not one place has a monopoly of the best pussies. I just tend to go to Pegasus and Sylvanus coz they seem to be a lot more consistent. Maybe I should go to Pasay as a side trip like you advised. I go to Sydney Australia for Caucasian pussy where Penthouse is the best - to my surprise cheaper than the Philippines. Have fun.
P.S. No I haven't read La Vey's book. I am not a Satanist anyways. I'm a pussy worshipper.
Dragon Slayer,
I pay my doctor $300 for 5 seconds to find out if my balls is ok. I paid this girl close to the same amount to check if my entire sex system is working. Which do you think is a fairer deal?
Sarcasm aside, it is just an exception and I don't do it all the time. It just so happened the girl was really fresh and looked like the Philippine actress, Rosanna Roces. She was really worth it. After the deed she even wanted me as her bf and she was serious about it. Surprise! I talked to her for weeks even when I'm back in the US. It ended when she went to Japan.
I didn't raise the bar for anyone coz that was the actual going rate for models in Pega.
Looking at the pic you posted in the Photo section, that girl is definitely not my type coz she is what the locals call the "exotic" look. I go more for the Spanish or Chinese mestiza and the Caucasian look.
MasterBlaster,
Thanks for the heads up pare! Unfortunately it doesnt look like I'll be in the Philippines in December. Looks like I'll be there more like January or February if everything goes as planned with my work. That suggestion about buying a GSM phone is very interesting and I just might buy one when I get there. Although, I was even thinking about buying a top-of-the-line phone since I hear they are cheaper to buy over there than it is to buy here in New York. True? But in any case, I'll buy a cheapo phone and give it as a "gift" to the one girl that can make my experience in the Philippines the most memorable one. About that "girls surrouding you like flies" thing, I believe it. I've had my filipino friends here come back with the best stories of their adventures back in the Philippines. Unfortunately I wasnt able to venture out on my own last time I was in the Philippines since I had to do the sight-seeing thing with my relatives. But this next trip to the Philippines, it will be on my own. I cant wait! Hope your still around when I'm there. I'll treat you to a session there (since its cheap, lol) and we can kick back with a few SM's and a couple of cigars. Ahhhh the life!
New York Pinoy
To: masterblaster
Pussy Worshipper ... that killed me man.
Actually, there is this practice in Middle East ... kissing pussy as source of life. I am not that familiar with this. But, I learned this from a Libanese friend of mine.
You are quite right about Australia. I believe Australia is the cheapest place for Caucasian p*ssy. They even sell 1 shot maximum 20 minutes package in their bordellos. But, I notice they charge extra for kissing, anal, fantassy, etc. The list can go as long as Mc Donald's.
Yap, you can explore Pasay area on your next trip. Just stay away from Malikaya. I discovered their practice of producing honey trap file. Click Search to tract down all my postings. You should find my posting about this. There was this thailand style body massage place. Exactly beside Pegasus. I think the management operate a bold show club and a brodello in the same premise. I think it was called Q. Is it still there? Happy hunting!
Cheers
Jakarta After Dark the born again Satanist
P.S. Don't worry about us. We are the best friends of the Church as we have been keeping them in business for calvading milleniums.
Hi Masterblaster,
Do you have any photos of thsi Girl or the others at Pegasus? I never heard of this place, which doesn't mean much as I stay in Makati and usually cab over to Burgos for fun when I am alone or need a break from my Woman.
Can you have fun with the ladies there without taking them out? I might take a cab over there and have a few drinks and see if one of the Girls will snuggle up to me. Is that a viable option?
New York Pinoy,
I'll be in the provinces after December 21 and I'll be heading back to the US as soon as I get back to Manila. It would have been a nice opportunity to really have fun; but i will surely miss the "could have" paid-for session ;-). But anyways, there will be lots of chances.
As for the GSM phone, it is cheaper to buy top-of-the-line GSM phones in the Philippines but all of the GSM providers (TMobile, AT&T and Cingular) in US are slowly closing the gap by offering free phones and all the top models for a little more dollars. The catch is: it is locked to the provider and comes with a contract plan. Even so, you can have it unlocked on the premise that you intend to use it outside the country and you can just go for the cheapest plan to minimize the service cost. You can't give it away though if you have a plan. Or, you can buy the phone in the Philippines and have a non-contract plan in the US. Your choice.
You can certainly make somebody smile for weeks by giving the phone as a gift. Just make sure to keep in touch with the girl for maximum return. Who knows she might give you free/discounted boom booms when you get back. It will all depend on how you play it.
Looks like you already got your priorities straight for this upcoming vacation. I don't know what your style is but when I like to get more semi-pro action in Manila, I tend to dress nice - more towards the business casual look and away from the Nike shoes and jeans look. More bling bling also works; just hide it when you're outside of "safe zones". Have Fun.
To: masterblaster
Street Hound just refreshed his mind and saying the currency was actually Peso. Is it possible to rent a p*ssy for ST for 500 Pesos in Manila now a day? 500 Pesos doesn't go that far. And, he claimed to pay this amount in a bar. And, a mestiza American.
I am beginning to think this guy deliberately submitted false information. What do you think?
Cheers
Jakarta After Dark the born again Satanist
JAD,
She wasn't a mestiza American... mestiza Spanish, but not a particularly attractive one (I'd say a six on a bar girl scale of 1-10). The Girls in LA cafe will typically ask for 1500 pesos, but easily accept 1000, and often less if they need the money. In this girls case, she said she needed bus fare back to Pampanga, and was hoping that I would pay her more the next time. I caught up with her a few days later when she was back in town, and gave her 1000 pesos that time.
Like I said, I wasn't trying to be cheap with the girl, I just didn't have the cash on me.
JAD,
Maybe we should assemble a jury ;-) I suggest that there should be at least one who is an expert in backpedalling. Another should be an expert in lyrical story writing and another who is an expert in SW/bar girl economics. Any volunteers? Did I say enough. Enough! I better shut up now or Street Hound might blow his top. Jury may be split.
Street Hound, I believe you. Have fun.
Dragon Slayer, check www.ktvphil.com . You'll see pics and location. You can negotiate whatever you want as long as you have the dough and the skills. I doubt if the high-end KTVs would allow doing it in the premises and that includes Pega; you will have to take the girl out. I've heard stories that you could but that all depends literally on the weather. Ask the mamasan. Second rate KTVs/bars would allow it. As for MPs, there is no question about it.
RE: LA Cafe "off the menu" prices
In my experience 500 php is really not a surprising price at LA Cafe. It is close to the norm. Please do not give more than 1,000 and change here. You will not be thought of as generous, you will be considered a grandstanding idiot who doesn't know the value of a peso. If someone has recent direct experience to the contrary I'll gladly defer to them, as It's been a while since the last time I was there, so things could have changed. But I doubt it. Perhaps there is some confusion in the term "bar." This is not a "barfine" place that employs professional bargirls and GROs available for take out. It is just an informal meeting place in Ermita which makes it's money selling food and drink, and sometimes has a cover charge for the disco with live bands upstairs on weekends. Filipinas who go there are on their own, and there is no kickback to the management of the bar. Some, but definitely not all, of the women in there on a given night MAY be available IF they like you or are hungry and broke. If you are clean and groomed and not very drunk and have an English speaking passport they probably like you, but no sure thing. Others are just out for some fun after work or school, usually with a group of girlfriends.
Folks who feel they are getting a great deal on a hotel room for 1,500 php and meals for "only" 250 php in the hotel and are looking for a battalion of bikini clad beauties with numbers on them ruled by a mamasan will be greatly disappointed here, or anywhere in Ermita or Malate, for that matter. LA Cafe is actually part of a small chain of ex-pat hangout type places. There is also a somewhat similar place a little ways north (walking toward U.N. Avenue) up M.H. Del Pilar St. on the same side of the street called the Jurassic Bar and Grill, owned by the same people. It is smaller and usually quieter and the pool tables get most of the attention, but some of the same women will occasionally stop in there as well. They also operate a place in Makati called Rogue's Sports Bar, but I've never been there (I detest Makati) and I know nothing else about it.
It may be only ten bucks in the US, but Ermita is not in the US, and 500 php is more than five times as much as these girls can make in a sixteen hour workday as a maid, or will go a long way toward paying tuition and board in the RP. This is serious money to them, and then there is the opportunity to spend a little quality time in an air-conditioned hotel room with clean running water and cable TV, rather than go back to their squalid tin shack with a dirt floor shared by 47 starving relatives and several nervous chickens. I find that if you are just slightly respectful (or at least not terribly cruel by western standards) they often feel you are treating them like a princess in comparison to what they are used to, and if you decide to let them stay the night and buy them a cup of rice and a fried egg for breakfast you run the risk that they will want to wash your clothes and have your baby. A "gift" of 500 php for these freelance semi-pros is not a problem. Sometimes getting them to stop calling you every hour and waiting outside hoping to see you again is a problem. Short-time rooms are a very good idea for this reason, among others.
The women in LA Cafe range from beautiful to very plain to none at all on any given night. I found that none at all was more common than beautiful, and plain was most common. I really like the place, but it is surely not one of the prime venues to hook up in Metro-Manila, and I wouldn't suggest that it's worth the taxi fare to make a special trip from the other side of town. I have met sweet amateurs there who think of themselves as still virgins, almost, kind of, sort of, except on even numbered Saturdays. I think a few of these young women were there because their entire extended family in the provinces took up a collection to send them to Manila praying to meet a lottery ticket er, ah, blue passport er, ah, single Kano, uh, nice guy. I have also met bargirls who went there after work, but I have met more women who probably were former bargirls. How to become a former bargirl in six easy lessons: get older (twenty-six is an old maid in the PI), get pregnant, get addicted to shabu and disrupt your employer's business with your behavior, get complaints from customers who say they were ripped off, get no customers because they don't want you, or get a failure notice from the health exam required to keep your permit to work in a bar. Caveat emptor.
After sunset there was always a gaggle of SW on the corner a block or two south of LA Cafe on M.H. Del Pilar St. They would certainly go for less, and some of them looked fairly attractive from across the street. I was never quite adventuresome enough to indulge in this alternative, but if someone is in the neighborhood and wants to take one home for the team, I promise to read the report attentively.
I think I can recall the conversation with my first Filipina acquaintance at LA Cafe almost verbatim:
HER: "OK if I sit here?"
ME: "Of course" (replying to her legs).
HER: "May I ask you a question?" The Script, of course, immediately followed. The Script is a list of questions tattooed onto the tongue of every Filipina at birth which the Philippine government requires them to recite without variation within the first three minutes of meeting any foreigner, comprised of: "where are you from, how long are you here, are you married and do you have many children yet, if not then why not how can that be what is wrong, what does not want children mean..."
HER: "You're handsome" (I'm an average looking middle-aged chain-smoking wastrel with a bit of a beer belly, but I have a rather attractive blue passport if I do say so myself)
ME: Hindi guapo; maganda Filipina. (Exhausting about half of my Tagalog vocabulary in saying I'm not handsome, you're pretty)
HER: "I want to be married tonight. Do you like me?"
ME: "Yes, magandang maganda Filipina" (replying to her breast), "but marriage is too complicated to rush into" (Dengue Fever is sounding attractive in it's relative simplicity)
HER: "I don't want to be married tomorrow, just tonight only is OK. To a nice man like you. You want to marry me for a while? I promise to be a good wife for you tonight."
We quickly established that a 500 php wedding gift from the groom AFTER the marriage was consummated would be appropriate, and I gave her another 100 php "for the taxi" which pleased her to no end. She would clearly have been happy to stay indefinitely, but I was scheduled to go on a family outing with my soon to be girlfriend's relatives early in the morning.
In general I have found that many (but not all) of these almost amateur girls respond to direct questions about money by hanging their head in a sullen manner and replying "it's up to you." And it is. And it is best left up to me, and you, after the fact, not before. They often feel better, and are better company, if not forced to feel that they have a price tag. They are raised with a distinct Philippino-Catholic sense of shame, and they often prefer to receive a spontaneous gesture of appreciation for their affection. It is not what I would recommend with a SW in Vegas, but it is what seemed best in places like this in the PI, and a 500 php "gift" can easily feed their entire extended family of parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, siblings, and cousins for a week or more. No shit.
I will arrive in Manila (Makati) early 12/21. I have never "hung out with another monger but it might be fun if someone is interested/ let me know. I go to BKK on 12/24 and then back to MNL for 4 days starting on 1/5/04. If you are a local or real knowledgable about the MNL or Makati scene, that would be great (I buy drink for the night)
thanks for the consideration
ps. that was supposed to read "I buy drinkS for the night"
Ozikboy
Wastrel:
I will be in Manila next week. Where exactly is the LA Cafe? As you might deduce, I'm not too familiar with the city, and all the places I know are on Burgos in Makati, but it sounds like this place is a better and cheaper bet. Any other places similar to this one? I will probably stay in the Dusit. Is that anywhere near this place?
Grateful for any additional advice you can provide.
goodenough wrote:
"I will be in Manila next week. Where exactly is the LA Cafe? As you might deduce, I'm not too familiar with the city, and all the places I know are on Burgos in Makati, but it sounds like this place is a better and cheaper bet. Any other places similar to this one? I will probably stay in the Dusit. Is that anywhere near this place?"
goodenough,
I'm not familiar with the Dusit, but I think it is at the Ayala Center in Makati, isn't it? If that is so, then it is nowhere near Ermita. Ermita and Malate used to be the old "entertainment" districts years ago until local political leadership banned the go-go bars in those areas. Roughly defined, these are the areas near Manila Bay just to the east of Roxas Blvd, west of the LRT commuter train and Taft Avenue, south of UN Avenue, and north of Harrison Plaza. The US embassy is sort of at the NW corner of this rectangle just across Roxas. Swagman's Hotel is also at the north end of Ermita, and Robinson's Plaza is a large well-known mall in the middle of it.
Before you lower your standards all the way down from Makati to what is available at LA Cafe, bear in mind that I am someone who is comfortable in hotel rooms that rent for less than 600 php a night. May I suggest an intermediate step? It is nowhere near as cheap as an informal pickup in LA Cafe, but the so called EDSA entertainment complex in Pasay tends to be somewhat less expensive and more relaxed than Makati, but still can be relied on for plenty of attractive choices on any given evening. It is a kind of mini-mall full of several bar-fine places at the far west end of EDSA just before it enters Roxas Blvd, across the street from the Heritage Hotel. There are also a lot of little short-time hotels conveniently located nearby. The website of one of the go-go bars in this place is http://chaosniteclub.com/ Nothing special about this particular club in comparison to the others in the same complex, just that they have a website, and also some links that you might find useful.
I would feel bad if I influenced you to plan your whole itinerary around LA Cafe, as you may go in there on one night or two and find nothing available or nothing you would want to wake up with sober. It is not a lot different than cruising some of the malls. But since you asked, and now that I've tried to warn you to lower your expectations of the place, MH Del Pillar Street runs parallel to Roxas Blvd. just one block over to the east. If you like exercise in a tropical climate you could take the LRT to the Pedro Gil station on Taft, then walk about eight blocks west toward Manila Bay, reaching MH Del Pillar just before Roxas, you would then hang a right to walk north a few blocks until you come to LA Cafe on the left side of the street, on the NW corner of an intersection. Sorry, I don't remember the cross street. The actual address of LA Cafe is 1429 M.H. Del Pilar St., Ermita, Manila. If you need more information you can email them at lacafe@ermita.com. Don't email them directly to ask about women, of course, as they would be officially shocked, shocked I say, to hear about their customers having sex, at least in writing. In my opinion most guys eager to get laid would not find LA Cafe worth a special trip, but more like a place to go when you happen to be in the barangay and have nothing better planned. I am fond of it because I have some history there, and because I'm a really cheap bastard and an incurable bottom fisher. LA Cafe is too far for most sensible men to try to walk from Pasay, so plan to use a taxi if you are doing both places in one night
If you do stop in there I will look forward to reading what you see and who you find to do there these days, and also what you see at the Jurassic up the street. I wonder if the Jurassic still rents cheap rooms upstairs above the pool hall, as the web page that used to have their room rates posted disappeared. If you have made your way into LA Cafe then anyone who works there can direct you to Mig's Jurassic Bar and Grill, a smaller place just a short walk north. Both of these places are busiest on Friday and Saturday nights, but they never close, and it is possible (though not a sure bet) to hook up with someone interesting any day or night.
If you are in this part of town you might also like to know that Malate, the district immediately to the south of Ermita, is chock full of restaurants, cafes, nightclubs, discos, and such which have nothing to do with commercial sex. Many Manila residents go there to drink, dance, party the night away, and sometimes incidentally get laid. This area is in roughly a four-block radius around Remedios Circle. In my opinion any taxi driver who cannot locate Remedios Circle in Malate is too damn ignorant to operate a vehicle on the streets of Manila, but you could ask to go to the Malate Pensionne at 1771 Adriatico St and you will then be standing about a block away from the circle in the middle of Malate.
A final word of warning, though you probably already know this, be prepared to be firm in brushing off any of the street touts who approach you in this area. They are especially thick in Ermita on the north end of MH Del Pillar. When one of these guys seeks your attention he is NOT your friend, he did NOT meet you before "in the hotel" or "on the airplane" or whatever bullshit he claims, he has absolutely nothing of value to offer you, there is no beautiful girl down that alley, and following any of them anywhere can lead to a very bad night in Manila, or worse. Much worse. As in waking up in Rizal Park missing your watch, your clothes, your fillings, and your kidney. They won't hit you on the head or try to drag you anywhere, just don't be foolish enough to be suckered by them as they smile and try to "help" you as you walk down the street.
--wastrel
Yahoo! Just fixed my sched and found out I'll be going to Pinas frm late December to early January! Time to hit the good ole MP's, KTV's and other nightspots!
NYPinoy - e-mail/pm me if your trip pushes through and you want to hook up...
Has anyone heard of Flight 168? From what I hear its the hottest MP/KTV right now, beating out Pega/La Legende and the rest...
P-Guy,
You are talking about Air-Force-1 in Paranaque, jus past the Sky Trek nightlub.
genius - Near NAIA? Ya, I think that's it...is the twin services as good as they say it is?
Gents,
A former poster on the Thailand/Korat board asked me to put this Manila report up. Here it is:
"I woke up at 1700hrs sunday. I had, at some point this morning, gotten aquianted with a couple of local club denizens with a freeflow bottle of tequila happening (well it seemed like a good idea at the time, as it always does) :p One thing about the folks here, I mean, if you get away from the shysters and tourist trap mongers, they are generous and gregarious to a fault, open hearted and just damn nice people. I'm going to remember that next time I deal with a Philo migrant worker on minimum wage in another part of the world. (OK moralizing over, back to the party.)
Well, around about 2000hrs I made my way to the WSG plugged GPoint Bar on Padre Faure St (a block or two west of LA Cafe) and ordered a coffee, twice the price of a beer, but I'm never going to drink again anyways ;D so what the hell. OK this place has been talked up by some guy on WSG to the point I was expecting a kind of cross between Starbucks and Long Bar at Raffles, Singapore. For starters it's in the wrong neighbourood to be keeping company with a Starbucks, let alone RAFFLES. Basically, what you got is a place where Philipina women (the ones who you see married to older guys back home, not exactly tarty-looking, but sexy in that impish tribal kinda way, if you know what I mean...) are chilling out with much older white men. I'm 42, but these guys are MY dads vintage, or look it. I have nothing against the borrowing timers making the most of their pension checks, mind you, I'll be there soon enough! This IS a nice enough place for what it is. There are no hassles, no assholes, no pretence at anything, and cheap food n drink. What let it down badly on the night was the music, some dickhead on the CD player (which annoyingly, kept skipping) would jarringly switch from Metallica at full volume, to fucking HORRIBLE crooning from some sixties B graders, to chirpy ABBA supermarket aisle numbers, at home my CD collection includes Herb Alpert, Tom Jones, Marvin Gaye, and -when I'm in the mood- ABBA, and guys like that, so you know I'm not trying to be hip here, the music, and how it was being mishandled, was inexcuseable, and I don't know why some of the older guys did not speak up, I don't know why I didn't! Actually, I DO know why, I was a bit over-dressed in crisp tropical pants and cotton shirt, the other guys were in sports shirts, shorts, T's and flip flops, so I thought if I spoke up it would not 'look' good. So I drank my coffee and left to hook up with the other two amigos who were texting me from LA Cafe by about 2100hrs.
This was my first time in LA Cafe, I was just looking for the other guys, and we left as soon as I rv'd with them, but it's basically a sleazy TGI Friday's concept, with semi-pro's on the make, and pool tables.
After swinging by a relatively dead Havana Bar at Adriatico, we headed out to the strip, er, Strip, namely, P.Burgos St, Makati City. Seemed like we were the only tourists there, and we were swarmed by urchins selling gum, off duty scabbies (my word for cab drivers, fucking rogues on wheels that they are -just about everywhere you go in the world.) and door pimps. Watch your wallets here! We toured I think every club there including the ones with Korean and Arabic scrip names in neon. (You know you're less likley to get bombed in an Arabic club hehe!) We were all stone clod sobah, but it was funny after a while, trying to remember which ones were the best, so we could choose a 'field HQ' to set up in "Hey, lets go back to that one with the big-titted mamasan... "Was that the one with the velvet couches?" "Naah that was the one with the chick who had the pierced tongue, remember?..." and so on... we settled in the Shampoo Bar, which had a side entrance (as many do) to a bigger club called... I forgot, dammit! My buddies slithered into the big barn next door where they paid for P300 tequila shots for the girls (who let them at least lick the lime juice from their titties) whilst I put a P50 note in the xmas tip jar for the girls at shampoo as a token of my affability, not generosity ;p The tiniest woman in the world this side of dwarfdom 'Paloma' made friends with me, then her afro- american looking buddy, 'chat' came up to, umm, chat too. (That was after I met a waitress named Pretzel! SheeesH! why do they choose these names?) All the while I girl in a black negligee with an ASS that seemed to have a mind of it's own, was dancing on stage, (groan!) so much pookie, so little time, not to mention pesos! (If I ever win lotto I'm coming back here to fuck myself to death!) Well, it being a slow night, Paloma and Chat came up with a novel idea, why not have two of us! This is actually something thats affordable in this part of the world, why not? besides, I want something different for the 'family album'. They said to avoid the barfine P1K each! Madre Dios! To meet them in the nearby eatery "The Filling Station" after 0400 (closing time) cellphone numbers were collected, then the boyz and I called it a night (they were tired out from the excesses of Saturday night AND xmas shopping all day Sunday, whilst I had opted to lie low.) The hotel was a P130 ride away and at 0200 with empty streets still took about 20mins, this is a big city! (we got the taxi meter switched on because one of us is a local, remember?) After arriving at the hotel, I decided I was too toey to wait for 0400 so I went out again to LA Cafe which is, incidentally a 30min stroll from our hotel on the bay -although I cabbed it. LA Cafe, being a 24-7 operation was jumping, there were Korean, Japanese, Black and White mongers all partying down. I figured that if I could not find a decent friend before 0400 at least I had my threesome to look forward to (assuming it was not all bullshit, as can often happen, just so one of 'em ends up with a john) at the very least either Paloma or Chat alone would have been just fine! About this time I was in the middle of being offered another 'threesome from two passable girls when the stunning 'Tia' caught my eye, she was with some stiff-looking nerdy type, the guy was in a button-down sleeve shirt for shitsakes, he looked like he'd just finished at the office... on a Sunday? Maybe he was a preacher, hehe! (See guys, even with PAID ass, it pays YOU to dress to impress a little, ALL women RESPOND to that, given all the odds being equal, which they are in a pussy bar, after all!) in no time, I had her full attention (she made sure to swing right by me on her way to the powder room!) And after a 'personality test' because I've learned this much, pretty faces often conceal bitchy attitudes and lousy performances, we were taking a bubble bath back in room 603. Halfway through a red-hot ride, I asked for permission to 'go digital' and you (Hi Five Group only!) have the hapy results dripping down your screens, gentlemen (Which pleases us no end!, Freeler).
I let her stay the night. We had breakfast at a cafe nearby, and I gave her a Ten Pound note (P950) plus P500 for a cab ride. Got her email and promised to send the raunchy pix she asked for! (Love a girl who loves her work!) Woven into the weekend was a sub-plot of sms (text) messages from WSG favourites "Cathy" and "Jing" both of whom were too busy to meet me. Cathy started well, but seemed to lose patience, and turned me off completely by eventually talking prices, sight unseen! Talk about arrogance! Jing seems keen, and we may meet in a week or two when I get back. To sum it all up. Don't miss out on some of the GREAT regular nightlife in Manila for the sake of purely mongering. As Progman has demonstrated, some great 'free' GFE to be had in the malls just because you're (in their eyes) overpaid and overthere. Don't forget your digicam. Don't forget your manners (and watch 'queer eye for the straight guy' to get some dress tips!) and don't forget to insist those scabbies turn on the meter. Get out the cab if they won't! If only on PRINCIPLE... don't forget, locals with as much or more money than us don't get shaken down by cab drivers when they use cabs, so why should we.
Scuse the typos.
Scotfree"
Hello to all from a part time reader.
I've been to P.I. twice; once to Angeles and the other to Sabang, and both times struggled to find a decent hotel in Manila for one night at around $20 U.S. I usually stay in Manila the night before I fly out.
This time I'll be in Manila for three days around Dec. 15 and I am looking for a place near the Edsa Complex. At one point not so long ago there was a lot of talk on this board about a hotel called the Townhouse, or the Town and Country? Something to that effect, and it is owned by an American expat.
The place was highly recommend, less that 1,000 pesos each night, with airport pickup and the whole nine yards.
I have done a search on this board and not turned up a thing with the words "townhouse". Does anyone know of a hotel close to this name?
If not, I will accept any suggestions of good hotels in the area of Edsa Complex for around $20.
Cheers boys and best of luck!
Wastrel:
Thanks for the comprehensive response. Despite the fact that I'll be staying in the Dusit (the company will be paying) I too am aa cheap bastard and enjoy feeding on the bottom, therefore, I will check out not only the LA Cafe, but also the other places you mentioned. I am stationed for the moment in Davao, and have begun to know that city a bit, but I know very little of Manila. Even if I'm not successful in trolling the places you mentioned, the journey itself should prove fairly interesting.
You don't mentioned anything about the prices for the girls. I understand from some colleagues here that the price for thegirls in Burgos, EXCLUSIVE OF BAR FINE IS p1,500-2,000 which seems a bit steep to me. In Davao, you can buy a lot for P1,000 with no problems at all, and the choices are abundant.
Is there a problem taking taxis alone, at night, in the districts you mentioned? My curiosity does not extent to getting rolled, getting killed or involuntarily donating a kidney. I'm pretty familiar with the street tout concept, but thanks for the warning. I will avoid these folks. How different from Thailand where, if you follow one of the street guys, the worst that can happen is that he introduces you to an ugly woman and then wants to be paid for the introduction.
I'll report back on what I find after my 3 days in Manila, which will begin on Monday.
Thanks again for the advice.
Wonder - I believe the place you're looking for is called "Town and Country"...its a motel type of place. I don't know if there's a branch near the EDSA complex though.
You can also give "Copacabana" or "Aloha" (can't remember which is which...one is near the complex, the other along roxas) a try, its usually an apartelle, but I hear that you can get three day deals for around 30 to 35 dollars a night. Best is the location - Just across EDSA complex! Or for a 5 star place, The Heritage Hotel is next to the Copacabana.
You might also want to try the SOGO hotel...should be relatively cheap, and its just down the road from the complex
Wonder,
The place you are seeking is called the Townhouse Hotel, located in a little section known as the Villa Carolina Townhouses, near the border of the northwest corner of Paranaque and the southwest edge of Baclaran. It is owned by an American in Connecticut and his Filipina "wife" Lorna. It is located on a little side street (just an alley really) lined with squatter's shacks just off Roxas, a little north of the small mall at the intersection of Roxas and the airport road. I doubt if most taxi drivers will be familiar with it, or be very enthusiastic about going there on the meter, and their airport pickups are not reliable because they keep firing their staff just before payday. It's not surprising you've heard of it somewhere because the owner is relentless in promoting himself on any website or discussion board remotely connected with the PI, usually under the name "Asia Bill."
I suppose you could call it "near" the EDSA complex if you are a lot more athletic than I am. It is about 2 km (over a mile) and if you plan to walk that seedy stretch of the Roxas frontage road at night I suggest you do it with a companion. I did it once on my own, and I ended up with a colorful story about my fifty-dollar cup of Nescafe; a good investment at the time to escape without further incident from a place I stopped to rest in, which I feel fairly sure was run by the Japanese mafia.
You only asked for name and location, so there you have it, and I will try to restrain myself from offering too much of my opinions about it as a place to stay, except to say that I believe this place and the people connected to it are sleazy in any language, and even though I have pretty industrial strength taste in low end accommodation I find this to be the worst place I have ever rented a room on the face of the earth. I am not kidding. All the rancid details furnished upon request if you really want to know.
It is, however, well within your price range, as most of the rooms go for 300 to 500 php, unless they run their well practiced bait and switch on you for 1,000 php and up. There are some people who are quite loyal to it, and to "Asia Bill," so good luck.
--wastrel
goodenough,
Ah, a man after my own heart.
In general it is more risky and expensive in Manila to take an unmetered "gypsy" taxi than one with a WORKING meter that is turned on IMMEDIATELY upon your request, but there are exceptions. One of these exceptions is permanently parked in front of the entrance to LA Cafe. They have an informal arrangement with at least one driver for the convenience and safety of their patrons. The last thing he wants to do is jeopardize his relationship with the LA Cafe and lose his steady business by messing with their customers. He is also the only driver in Manila who didn't try to sell me everything from a packet of shabu to the Queen of England, and even though I don't think he really cost much less than a taxi on the meter would have, it was worthwhile for convenience and piece of mind while my mind was on a piece of something else. It will probably not surprise you to hear that he knows the local short time places blindfolded, in case you don't. If in doubt, ask the bar staff if they know the driver you are about to use.
I don't remember just what I paid the last time I went to the EDSA complex, but my best recollection is that it was about what you just quoted for Makati. Maybe Makati isn't as bad as I thought, and I should refrain from sneering about it, but I just can't help myself sometimes. As I mentioned before, prices in LA Cafe tended to run from 500 to 1000, depending on the girl, your desires, and your conscience. The largest "gift" I have ever made out of the LA Cafe was a total cost of about 1,200 including some incidentals. I did once meet a Filipina who insisted right up front (unusual behavior here) on no less than 1,500. She was attractive, but not that attractive, and I think she stayed lonely that night. Or maybe I had something hanging from my nose at the time.
It sounds like you're sufficiently streetwise in the PI to actually be able to ferret out something useful from among the street hustlers. There are so many that are simply there to scam you or set you up that I don't try to sort them out, and I usually assume that I am writing for an audience of potentially unwary tourists.
My apologies in advance if this is not in time to be of any use on your Monday trip. Perhaps I'll have the pleasure of meeting you one day.
wastrel
Heritage is much better than the copacabana although a little more expensive, you will feel much safer and comfortable there. Try their website and e-mail for the best deal. Both right by EDSA.
Check out the website for asia travel www.asiatravel.com for good hotel deals at the moment Heritage Hotel is $60.
Wastrel:
Thanks again for your recommendation regarding LA cafe. It worked very well for me. I went there on Wednesday night, and there were probably more than 200 women, and a good distribution of 7-8s. I finally went upstaires and met two really nice looking girls by the pool table in the rear, and I took one of them. I have her P1,000 because I really liked her, but I'm sure she would have been content with less. This is a much better deal than P. Burgos in Makati.
I did go to Burgos the next night, simply because it had been about 10 years since I'd been there. I visited four places, and they were all rip offs. First of all. the "ladies drinks" cost about P300 and it's impossible to avoid at least one of them if you find someone to whom you are attracted. Secondly, the bar fine is P3,000, and the girls seem to expect about P2,500. I did not find the girls, in general, any more attractive than the freelancers in the LA cafe. Further, the number of patrons at each of the bar was extremely small, so the places were virtually empty and altogether not much fun. Finally, every bar to which I went tried to push me to buy drinks, take the girls, buy more drinks for more girls, and so forth. I got sick of it very quickly.
The one unmetered taxi I found in front of LA cafe wanted P200 to take me back to my hotel in Makati. I got out, found a metered cab, and made the ride for P70. I don't know if this is a typical experience or not.
I am now back in Davao, and would be happy to meet you any time that you might be here. Alternatively, I will probably have to go to Manila every couple of weeks and I'll let you know the next time I'll be there.
Thanks again for the sound advice.
Hi all,
I have nothing against LA Cafe except for the numerous advices to keep distance from ladies that are not "traceable" - you would not be able to tract them if something goes wrong, such as lost items/money from your room during the short pleasurable moments.
Alternatively, for those who wish to have the option to get "flowers" to your satisfaction without worrying of losing more than what you paid for, you may want to check out this mummy:
Rhea 0920 898 5784 (mobile) or 02 851 9932 (landline) - she will make sure you will be happy - just tell her the type of "flower" you want.
Tried her 3 times and was 100% satisfied.
Guys....for those of you who are regularly here you will have heard of JR....tnx to GRO papa we have probably the best guide for mongering in Manila. had a phone call from JR the other day and i promised to promote him b4 Xmas.... this is an October excerpt from a gro papa post which says it all....
"Anyhow Jay R is still a guide to the pleasures of the City of Man so give him a call or text him 0917 414 5416
He's a taxi cab driver by profession this is his sideline for those who don't know. He can guide you or bring girls to you at your hotel. Very trustworthy and friendly customer oriented guy as many from this board who have used him I think will testify to.
I live in Manila now and use his services regularly, he's never too busy."
If ur in Manila give him a try.
The Flying Scotsman
Flying Scotsman:
How much does JR charge for the ladies? Does the "stable" he gets them from have a good selection, and can I tell him what kind of lady I'm after? My Thanks!
P-Guy.... tnx to GRo Papa ive used JR a few times... its up to you how you want to play things.... You can call him and tell him what ur looking for and he will bring a few girls to ur room to chose from.... or, you can go out with him to a few clubs around pasay or wherever you want and he will make arrangements for you and just generally be around to help with negociations and to ferry you around from club to club. I personally like the guy and treat him as i would a friend, buying the beers and generally enjoying his company. ( Dont get him too pissed tho as he has to drive you around..!! :) ) What i prefer tho is to get him to take me to the Casas..of which there are a few....you can take ur pic from around 20 girls....( 2 to 3 thousand pesos, payable before you take the girl out).... thats for the night...its up to you if you pay the girl extra...i usually do if she has made an effort :) Normally i choose a girl and then go with them for something to eat and drink before going back to hotel..gives you a chance to get to chat with them a bit...not quite as cold as just choosing the girl and then fucking.! But everyone to there own..:) Thats me...
And dont forget..look after JR...he has a wife and kids and does this on the side, apart from his taxi business....he really does offer a very safe way to see a side of manila that would otherwise be difficult for us white guys....
hope this helps
The Flying Scotsman
Flying Scotsman:
Thanks for the advice on JR. I'll be in Manila for a few days next week and will give him a call or text him. In addition to the beers, what do you normally tip him for the services that he provides? Also can you recommend any particular casas? I'm familiar with a couple of them in Davao, but don't know any in Manila.
goodenough...... i dont know indiviadual casas..they change quite often,, but JR will know the places to go. As for tips , its up to you..i tend to be over generous...but its what you feel he is worth to you... taking into consideration everything you have read about him.. :)
Have fun....
The Flying Scotsman
Hi there Gents!
First time posting for me. It's awesome for all the information that 's been posted here. Especially, with the detailed information on what to and not to do there in Manila. I do appreciate all of info provided. I cant wait to get there in March! But before I go, is the LA Cafe a nice place for starters? Again, thanks again for all the updated information. And as a US Marine, I say this to all of you: Semper Fidelis! (Always Faithful!).
Take care, Gents.
out2play - The LA Cafe is quite okay, don't go there that much myself, but it covers two floors, has a number of pool tables....a typical bar in the western sense. Of course, the ladies to guy ratio is quite better than the average bar :) While I'm usually used to looking or "hunting" for the girls, this is one place where the hunter becomes the hunted.
Given that, freelancers are the name of the game in LA; don't expect any shows or mamasan's pushing their product (Except for some "Bugaw" or pimps outside, which you shouldn't patronize) Prices range from P500 to a grand...as has been said before, negotiate if you can.
Enjoy!
out2play - I agree with P-Guy. The reason I like the place is that there's no mamasan pushing you, there's no bar fine, and prices are reasonable. In fact, the last time I was there, no mention was made of money, and in the morning I gave the girld P1000 (less than $20) because I had a great time with her. I'm getting really turned off by the bars on PBurgos because they're so expensive and the management keeps aggressivley pushing you to take a girl, pay the bar fine, buy more drinks, etc.
One word of caution. When you leave, make sure t oget a taxi that's metered and insist that the driver turn his meter on.
Have an excellent time!
Hello Gents,
Goodenough: Thanks for the tip. I guess given the global economy situation;we're all tight on our cash. it's not that good either here in the US. With the information you've passed on, I know I can stretch my cash over there in Manila. Man! I can't thank you Gents enough! At least, I'll be better prepared when I get there. Anyway, take care and...Semper Fi!
out2play,
Being the holiday season right now. A lot of bars are really pushing the girls at your face. I really hate it when they shove women and drinks before you even get the seat cushion warm. The pimps outside La Cafe are the same, too. If you are a foreigner, once inside, all eyes are on you. Ratio is good and the freelancers are more subtle in the business deals. Just as Goodenough mentioned, more than several occasions I was able to walk out with my choice before settling on the price. I think the lowest I payed was P 500.
Since your coming in March, save, dream and enjoy.
Gents,
I have some other quesitons. I am considered over there in the Philippines. Fil-Am (born and raised here, we pinoys, in the US simply call ourselves Pilipino. I guess we just like to hang on to our heritage than being "American". hehhehe). Anyway, the last time I was there for a vacation, ladies there can pinpoint a Fil-Am miles away! I was approached several times in front of the Philippine Women's University while waiting for my cousin after her classes that day. I was a little uneasy because of my unfamiliarity of what going on over there. I dont know if it's the way I talk or just what I wear but these girls there were kinda relentless.
I just wonder how will it be over there at the LA Cafe. Are the girls just as aggressive as like those girls in front of the university? or is there a certain "culture" or norm the girls at the LA Cafe abide by? And if you can fill me in on more advise as if was I there with you gents in the bar.
Thanks again, Gents. Semper Fi.
Just a quick note to say Merry Xmas to all fellow mongers, especially on this board.... and to you lucky bastards in manila just now..keep up the reports please..!! Ive gotta wait till mid February..!!
All the Best
The Flying Scotsman
out2play - I just got back from Manila yesterday, and confirmed my original hypothesis that the girls at the LA Cafe are pretty aggressive, however a lot of that is attributable to the need for Christmas money, so things should have calmed down a bit by the time you get here. Pinay Lover is also correct in that the pimps outside of the place are relentless, but if you just ignore them they eventual move on to other prey. I paid p1,500 again during my most recent encounter, but I could have gotten away with a lot less. I paid because the service was terrific, though she never asked for anything at all.
Maybe I need to check out the University next time. I cannot pass for a Fil-Am but what the hell. It might be worth a shot to see if I have the same experience as you did.
Goodenough,
Thank you again for the info. Looks like you had a great time! I'm still ichin' to get there! I can't wait, partner! Well, Take care and Semper Fi.
out2play6969:
Happy to help. If you want to hang out when you go to Manila, let me know and perhaps we can meet for some mutual chasing. I get there every couple of weeks.
Goodenough,
Sure! I'll let you know once I get there.
Please contact me via a private message using the WSG Forum's Private Message service.
Hope to see ya there, partner! Semper Fi.
May Everyone's New Year and 2004 be filled with sweat filled sex!
Flying Scotsman Jay R says hello! Next time you are in town ask him to show you Cubao, that's our new spot :) No foreign type would venture that way but you're with Jay R so you know you'll be perfectly safe from criminals and rip offs!
My message below is a general post:
Hey Guys, Happy Holidays!
I've been fairly busy with all sorts of action all over Makati and Metro Manila, what can I say - I hate being alone during the holidays
Anyhow if you're not finding much action in your usual haunts coz of the holidays you probably didn't give my guide Jay R a call or you wouldn't have much trouble at all LOL.
His cell is still 0917 414 5416, I know he's busy tonight and possibly tomorrow with guests like yourselves(I'm all hooked up with a couple of girls from my recent hunts- one's from EA the other's from SD) but he can always squeeze in anyone in the Makati/Pasay area since that's where he makes his rounds.
He knows where the girls are whether it's casas/boarding houses or KTVs he's the best guide in town as many WSG members who have used his services will attest to.
It's the holidays, treat yourself to a guide and a season filled with exhaustion in the horizontal position
I am going to Manila at the end of January for a short stopover program (1 day/night). I would like to use this time to contact one or two nice girls. Who could give me some advice where to stay (four or five star hotel) and where to go to pick up some girls. Are massages are also avialable?
Thank you in advance and happe New Year to all
GRO papa, thanks for the info...im back in Manila 2nd Feb so i will ask JR abt Cubao.... have a great horizontal New Year..!!
have you bn to Edsa complex recently..havnt heard much news from there....wonder if anyone goes there any more??!!
have a good new year everyone...... keep up the reports, and how abt a few pics guys.. :)
the flying scotsman
Flying Scotsman:
I was at the Edsa complex about a month ago and didn't like the aggressiveness of the mamasans at all. There were a lot of girls, but I hate being pushed and hustled for drinks, which seemed to happened no matter what bar I went into. Don't think I will go back there any time soon.
Attn: GoodEnough
Try the LA Cafe nect time. You would really like the action there. Lots of fun with no mamasans to bother you.
iahnrt:
Thanks. I know the place and I agree with you. I went to Edsa before I discovered (thanks to these postings) the LA Cafe which is a much, much better deal.
For those of you that like good massages there are a number of massage advertisements in a publication called "buy and sell" available for 20 pesos (also available online at http://www.buyandsellph.com) Prices range from 700 to 1000 pesos for a good one hour to 1.5 hour massage in your home or hotel, sextras often possible (ask for special massage and/or for young masseuse). I have used one particular company a few times (phone number available if you contact me) where my experiences ranged from good to fantastic, unfortunately the fantastic girl has left the company and I have lost her phone number. Total including fs,bj and massage between 2500 to 3000 pesos if you bargain hard and are nice to the girl. In terms of looks, the girls range from 5-7. Has anybody else used these services?
Buy and sell also has escort services listed but I never tried that one.
I have also been using through a Filipino contact an escort
service targeting normally Filipinos where the choice is limited (maybe 6-7 girls, looks 6-8 very friendly, some with good and some with little English only) but the price is not bad (ST 1500-2000 LT 3-4000) and they don't push you for girls that you don't like. I once had two girls at the same time for 2500 pesos ST everything included. One of them became my steady girl, she is a 7, an accountant and now does everything I want her to do with a smile for free and I mean everything. I can give out the phone number of the escort service to a few people but just to a few as otherwise prices could go up. Contact me through this forum if you are interested.
Can anyone recommend a hotel near a good nightlife area - guest-friendly - reasonable price - clean - maybe $20 to $30 per night - prferably with a swimming pool - in Manila. thanks
Steve 101,
In Makati just off of Makati Avenue on Valdez St is Robelle Hotel. 02-899-8209. Nice old Hotel on a quiet, residential street. There is an :open air" restaurant/pub next door and you are a 10 minute walk or P 25 taxi ride to Burgos St and the 30+ Clubs there. Burgos St. also has a few restaurants and the Woodmens Head, owned by John from the UK that serves food/beer 24/7.
This Hotel is NICE. Has a beautiful swimming pool and a nice patio. Cute, little restaurant and all rooms have cable tv and most have bathtubs for some hot bathing/fucking.
Rooms are $ 20 - $30 US per nt. I have been staying there for 13 years now. It is 30 mins to the Airport and a P 45 to Greenbelt and all the restaurants and Clubs there.
Hi everybody,
I hope to get some help from here, I am going to manila next weekend, and I need to know some good locations for some excitment. Please tell me some good places.
Thanks,
Love Asean
Decent 1-Star hotel right in the thick of the action is at Dakota Manision in Malate area. There are many Karaokes, Bars, and Discos within walking distance. More than anything there is a German Restaurant, BAR NONE one if not the best in Asia. The owner (pure German) was chief Chef of Shanghai Hilton if I'm not mistaken. I go there everyday I'm in Manila. Great prices, superb food delicacy, German beer and right in the thick of the action. It is directly adjacent to Pan Pacific Hotel. I will post the restaurant name hereafter. Highly recommend visiting The Hobbit House. Again another bar I hit everytime in Manila. Majority of house workers are DWARFS. Great souvenirs for discounted price. Here's an info. link on Hobbit House: Copy and paste.
http://www.wguides.com/city/186/149_229415.cfm
Also available is the the copy and paste link for Dakota Mansion.
http://www.mansiongroup.com.ph/DakotaSite/about2.html
In the photo I have Black Boxed noted German Restaurant (Donau Deli I believe is the name. Owner Roland Sager), Hobbit House and good Dim Sum rest.
Thanks for the sugesstions - what's the better area to stay in for a mix of touristic interest and nightlife - Makati or Ermita/Malate? Preumably whichever you stay in the other area is easily accessible in a cab...?
Steve 101:
I'd listen to Dragon Slayer. He knows what he's talking about. Try both places. They have completely different characters, with Ermita being rougher and more down home and dirty, and Makati more organized, slicker, fancier and more expensive. Both can be fun depending on the night and the selection available.
Can some tell me what is the closest, cheap(around 30 per night), clean, girl friendly hotel near to LA Cafe in Manila? How far is it from the airport in weekday early morning traffic, miles plus time to a hotel near LA Cafe? Is LA Cafe closer to Angeles or farther from Angeles than the airport or is there no difference? Can you walk from a close by hotel to LA Cafe? Thanks for the info.
Reguards,
McBarker
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Steve 101,
Malate or makati, does not matter, you'll still have a great time. Just be preared for the traffic, don't get frustrated or it will just ruin your day.
I normally stay at City Garden hotel on makati ave and kalayaan. Burgos street is right behind the hotel. Lost of restaurants and cabs outside.
DS,
I have to check out this Robelle Hotel, its a few dollars cheaper that City garden.
Cheers,
IB
Hey guys,
Thanks for all the great info! I will be in Manila from Mar 15-24 and I'll be there by myself. I was wondering how pretty the salewomen at the malls are, particular the SM I hear about so often. I like the light-skinned women who look less like the island girl type. I am a korean-american, so will that be favorable or unfavorable in terms of my odds of hooking up with 1 of them? Also, I will be staying at the Citadel over in Malate. Does anyone know if they are fine with "extra guests"? Thanks for any more helpful tips and if anyone will be there when I am, let's grab a cold one at the Hard Rock or, better yet, Chaos!
Happy mongering to all.
Jason
McB,
LA cafe is NO WHERE near Angeles.
LA Cafe is in Malate, part of Manila. There are many hotels in the area. You are going to have to do some of your own research to narrow down the options. I recommend asiatravel.com as a source of info.
As for ride from the airport to Malate, depends on traffic. Could be 15 mins, could be over an hour. But, as miles go, it is probably only about 10-15 miles.
good luck.
I'm visiting Manila for the first time in February and hope to hook up with one or more filipinas during my stay. Ill be staying at a good hotel probably near to mandaluyong and will be looking to have someone stay over nights. I've read a number of reports here and am still a bit confused about the best places to go and how to proceed. The hotel seems to be near to the malls on edsa. Is there a particular location I should be looking for talent or avoid.
Normally I would be looking to make contact in advance but as far as I can see there are few active links to finding likely talent. Or would it be best to contact Jay R as areliable contact? What would you advise?
Also, should I anticipate problems at the hotel? Are friendly visitors actively discouraged or is it an implicit feature of the scene?
laLake,
Thanks Ill check out that website. I knew LA Cafe was in Manila but I did not know where in Manila it was. I know Angeles is about a 3 hour daytime ride from the Airport in Manila with that never ending construction on the northern highway going on. What I meant when asking if it were closer to AC was that the airport in Manila is on the wrong end of the city for people who travel to Angeles and I was wondering if LA Cafe was on the end of Manila closest to AC or more near to the airport. I may stay in Manila the first night and then go on to AC and I was wondering if I would be better off taking the bus up to AC if for example LA Cafe was in the part of the city closer to AC making the drive less than what it would be comming from the airport or just taking a taxi to the airport and taking the 1pm SEA AIR flight to Angeles which takes only 23 minutes. Ive been on it twice the plane only has 19 seats and the flight is over very fast. I enjoyed the flight to except the inside of the plane tends to get hot and the air fans that should work dont work. Ive moved up my trip to the PI so I will be there on March 17th and Ill be leaving around May 6th. I will mostly me in AC but Ill also go to Dumaguete, Cebu and Boracay too. For sure Ill be in AC from March 18th until March 24th then its off to Dumaguete and all over the place with a nice long time in AC before I leave the PI too.
If anyone wants to get together in AC for some bar hopping on or after March 18th just PM me and I'll meet you there.
Best wishes to all Mongers.
Reguards,
McBarker.
Hi folks,
I spend most of my holidays in Thailand, but have been going to The Philippines on and off since 1998. I had a real fun afternoon in Manila recently which I thought it would be worth sharing. It changed my view of the place completely!
Here goes:
I don’t know Manila at all but found myself passing through for a day on my way from Puerto Galera to Bangkok. It was a hot, sunny Sunday afternoon, so I decided to have a wander around the neighbourhood.
I was staying at the Swagman in Ermita, so crossed Roxas Boulevard and walked south along the bay. Seems like the largest open sewer in the world. Very hot, and the places on the waterfront only had warm cans of beer for sale. So I headed back into the built-up area, which was Malate by this time (as evidenced by Malate Cathedral).
I found a bar (London Dungeon or something like that) and had a cold couple of bottles, then resumed rambling, occasionally smiling at the ladies passing by and being smiled back at. I had just passed the City State Tower hotel when a tout came up to me and offered me girls. Young girls, tight holes. I wasn’t really interested as I had only kicked a lady out of my bed in PG at 6:00 that morning before catching the Island Cruiser back to Batangas, but what the hell I thought, let’s at least have a look around.
We walked for a couple of blocks and then came to a couple of small places, one with an English name I forget: maybe the Kings Cross or Red Lion??? There were two places with Asian names nearby, and we looked in all three. (Looking at a map now, as near as I can figure, these places were about 3 or 4 blocks due east of Swagman, maybe on Judge Bocobo?) All essentially the same at 3:00 on a hot Sunday afternoon – a dozen girls in each stretched out on the sofas taking a siesta, looking pissed off if they got woken up. Just one girl awake and prettying herself up in the mirror, maybe a 7 on the looks and figure scale, around 19 or 20 years old at a guess. I wasn’t really that interested, but the deal was 1500 Pesos all-in for the girl until the next morning. Given that a similar lady would cost around 3 to 4 times that where I was heading in the LOS, I thought why not, nothing to lose?
We walked back to Swaggy, she was waving at all the security guards as we passed various places on the way, though she claimed to have never been there before. Anyway, a quick beer in the Swaggy bar then off to the room. Luckily I had shelled out on a deluxe which had a much better bed than the standard rooms, plus a spare bed if I got bored. I knew that the hotel was girl friendly as my friends living in PG had said so, plus the bag boy had joked about me taking a lady in the spare bed.
The girl was shy and giggly and had that weird Filipina muppet voice when she spoke Tagalog. I always find this very amusing, even though I don’t understand a word, and try and elcicit different noises from the girls for my own gratification. When I finally got her bathed and naked in bed she seemed a bit younger than I had thought, unusual as SEA girls tend to look younger than they really are. I use the tits and especially the nipples as a guide. This girl kept going on that her chest was too small, but it seemed fine to me (for a girl of her age at least - LOL). I remember seeing a chart from some sex education book which had about 8 photos of a girl’s chest as she went from prepubescence to full womanhood. This girl was somewhere in the middle of that lot. Not foolproof I guess, but it was surprising to find the girl seeming younger than I had judged from her face and figure, when it is almost always working the other way around in my experience in SEA.
To be honest, she wasn’t a great performer. But she was very sweet and physically perfect in every respect. And the tout hadn’t been exaggerating about the “tight hole” bit. This was the kind of girl you could put between two slices of bread and eat, hair and toenails and all, she was just so delicious. I was shagged out after the trip from PG and after one pop I just lay with my legs entwined in hers, my arm around her back, cuddling each other and we slept for a couple of hours.
I asked her what the deal was with the 1500 Pesos from her side: she gets to keep just 400 Pesos, plus any tip. That’s lousy, even in Sabang the girls are keeping 1000 Pesos plus tips. We did the deed again, and damn she was a tight kid, and I thought about keeping her all night, but by now it was evening and I needed to get food and sort a few things out and had to be up early for the Bangkok flight, so I gave her her freedom plus a 500 Peso tip. Still can't believe how cheap this was.
This was an interesting experience and I enjoyed it, Swaggy is 100% girl-friendly, and the prices are amazing for quality flesh in a big city. I’ll be back in Manila for a longer stay in the next year I hope. Thailand is getting expensive and Cambodia can still be dodgy. I appreciate that The Philippines aren’t risk-free, but I certainly felt very safe on a sunny Sunday afternoon.
The only other time I wandered around Ermita was in early 1998 when on my way to Dipolog. Then there seemed to be no P4P night life, though I was staying on the edge of the park and didn’t dare walk there after dark not knowing what is safe and what is not. I seem to recall that the mayor had shut it all down and it had headed off to Makati. I also recall something about foreigners not being allowed to walk around with Filipinas unless they were married. Has this all changed? What’s the score in Ermita now? Since then I assumed that Manila sucks, but this one afternoon has changed my mind completely.
TB
Can anyone tell me if JR or Rose have emails? Also, did anyone ever try one of the escorts in Philippines Buy and Sell?
Has anyone ever dated Alma Chua? I will be in Manila in March and would like to meet her. I saw her on the internet and really liked those mellons. If anyone has please let me know how much. If anyone knows her exact measurements and height that would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Flipina Lover
Toy Boy,
First off, forget Swagman for your next trip. You can do much better for the price. I usually stay at the Lotus Garden (formerly Royal Palm). You walked by it when your were near City Tower. But there are lots of other places and what was good this year may be bad next. Pop your head in a few and look at some rooms, you'll get the idea. All but the highest class places are "girl friendly".
You are right to avoid parks after dark, but I've never heard of formal restrictions on walking around with ladies. You (or she) will get alot of cat calls in tagalog (bastoos). She will let it roll off her back, as should you.
The deal you got was not extraordinary, but not bad.
LOS has much to offer as well, I love em both. Welcome to the land of flirtation !
FD
PS: The action in Ermita is unofficial, but there. Check out the L.A. Cafe for freelancers. Don't settle for the first couple of hags that approach you. Be patient, a cutie will come along.
Just a future note monikers and mongers try and avoid the local touts. Some good contact have come from them but more often than not they'll take you for a spin, hook you up, then want a stiff tip. It's all over there for the taking men! Just look, but gentle, respectful and romantic and you'll get them in the sack for far less than 1500PHP especially in Malate. All night too! Normal salary for Filipina working or dancing rarely and I mean rarely exceeds 250php for an 8hr. work shift. 1500php? and in Malate? OVERPAID my friend. Don't drive up the fees like so many have in the other LOS Thailand.
Enjoy!
Does anyone know where to find girls in the PASIG area? I'm going to be staying at a place called Discovery Suites and I fear it might be very boring and far from the action
to pwranon..and any other guys without experience of Manila..just get in touch with JR..its the easiest and safest way to have a great time. You wont waste any time going to the wrong places. Use him until you find ur feet. His no, as per previous posts is 09174145416. Tell him what you like and he will make sure that you have fun. Two weeks to go and i'll be there myself..!!
Anybody with any up to date info on Baguio..??
The Flying Scotsman
Thanks Scotsman!
I will surely do that given your recomendations. Can he direct me towards girls who would take up a 3 day assignment? Any guesses what the gift might be?
In the meantime I have been playing the message boards and contacts with some surprising offres (freebies I wonder?).
Best offers so far has come via FlipinaFriends.com and more interesting manilatonight.com which operates a very busy message system. Not sure how good they really are but await further email correspondence.
Happy Flying!
Firedick,
Thanks for the advice. I was staying in Swagman because of the bus direct from there to Batangas for the boat to Puerto Galera. My friends recommended the Corona hotel about 100 yards across from Swaggy. Indeed, as you suggest it is worth taking a closer look. I’ll keep the Lotus Garden in mind for next time.
The story on getting arrested in Ermita if you were seen with a Filipina and could not prove she was your wife came from my old guide book to The Philippines, a Rough or Nelles publication I think. Admittedly this is quite an old one, bought in 1997 and probably it had not been updated for a few years before that since the General’s big clean-up in the early 1990’s. I am certainly glad that you are NOT saying something like “you went walking in broad daylight with a girl in Ermita – what an idiot, you could have been arrested”.
My friends in PG also recommended the LA Café, and to be honest that is what I was sort of looking for on my afternoon ramble, but I didn’t have directions and missed it even though I see now it was so close. Next time for sure I’ll visit it, I’ve read the posts here and it sounds worth spending an hour or two in there. From what I have read here the malls also sound worth investigating, Harrison and so on.
Cheers,
TB
Pwranon... another interesting site is www.face-pic.com good way to see the girls in advance...most have contact details via yahoo etc... ive met several girls over the past few years using this site... have fun..
The Flying Scotsman
Hello friends,
I have read all your reports and it was interesting to me. But some times it is not easy to to take all such information and make your own plans. Since I have never been to Manila it is a problem to find all the interesting places on a map. So I don't have any idea where LA-Cafe od G-Point is located.
Since I am going to visit Manila from 2nd Februar (afternoon) until 4th Februar (afternonn) may I ask you for your advise. I intend to stay at Heritage Hotel - will there be a problem to take a girl to my room?
During these days I am interested to a sight seeing tour in Manila and to spend the time with nice girls (preferable two at the same time). In addition a excellent massage would be fine.
Please let me have your advice and maybe some contact or would somebody join me.
Thank you in advance
Spent the last couple of days in Manila and last night went to LA Cafe on Del Pilar in Ermita. It was packed but I didn't find anyone at all interesting. However, there's a new bar, that opened two months ago directly across the corner. It's called Jurrasic Park and I had an excellent experience. All of the women there were dancers working for the bar, and several were really good looking. They will go with you for P1,000 and discourage you from paying the P1,000 bar fine, indicating that they would rather just meet you in your room. The place was reasonably quiet, reasonably attractive, and there was no pressure to buy lady drinks which, incidentally, cost P200. I went in, spent about an hour, made my deal with a beautiful lady, and left. The whole night with drinks and lady cost p1,500 and it was good value for money. Apparently the bar has only been open a couple of months, and it's not yet well known.
George1951
Last I heard the Heritage is "girl friendly". Just keep in mind that this is a pretty nice place, so a little discretion is advised. That said, the hotel is right across the street from the complex, so the staff has, no doubt, seen it all before. If you are there on a Sunday, try their Sunday brunch. Quite acceptable.
While sightseeing, if you'd like a cultural eye opening, go check out "Smokey Mountain" in Tondo. Caution though. This is a desperately poor area. Common sense rules apply.
GoodEnough,
Thanks for the heads up on Jurrasic Park.
FD
I stayed at the Heritage Hotel this past November and there was no problems bringing a girl back to your room. All I received was smiles from the staff.
Firedick:
No problem at the Heritage. I stayed there a couple of months ago, and the staff directed me to the EDSA complex. Came back with a chick and no one said a word about it. Not a bad hotel, but it's a bit far from the center of things in Makati.
Arrived in Manila last Thursday night.
Headed to EDSA Complex at 11PM and walked into the Mayfair bar. No action for about 30 minutes but as I was about to leave the mamasan approached me and hooked me up with Jona, taller than average, dark curly hair. She turned out to be a sweetie (but shy) and we had a good time. BBBJ no CIM and nothing unusual in bed other than a very nice girl. Did not sleep all night and she was vey cooperative when I woke her up at 6AM for another round. Recommended.
The next night I went to Cotton Club, next door to the Mayfair. There I think I got the treat of a lifetime. As I walked in, I was immediately approached by L and Alysa, both cute (L does no want her name posted, sorry). They spent the next 2 hours rubbing against me and french kissing me one after the other or together and that was just great. So far... In fact, I could not understand if they were competing for me or really working together. I decided to take both home. Mistake.
Did Alysa first while L was watching. Alysa will do anything but you can tell she is a real pro, unlike L. DATY, DFK, BBBJ you name it and she will do it. After I finished with Alysa, the girls started arguing with each other in tagalog. Turned out L wanted Alysa to go home so she could stay with me. That did not go well with Alysa but I sent her home anyway because I figured that otherwise they would fight all night. After Alysa left, L told me she was on Shabu...
Spent the next 2 days with L. Simply some of the best sex I have ever had, she was just incredible and said when we parted that any future encounter would be on a non-commercial basis. She is only a semi-pro.
We went to LA Cafe in the afternoon. That was my first time there and I was not impressed at all by the quality of the girls in the couple hours we were there. According to L most of the regular girls there are on drugs, may or may no be true. Certainly they looked older than at EDSA. Must have been a bad day...
Mahal in Manila
George1951.. im gonna be in Heritage at the same time..send me a private message if you wanna hook up, share a few beers. The Heritage is cool....i always stay there....the night security can be strict with the girls..want to see id etc...not a bad thing as far as im concerned. But as long as you are with them ..no probs.... On occasions where ive used JR to bring girls to the Hotel for me ive had to go downstairs to vouch for them..but otherwise no hassle.
Mahal...good report...is no one taking any pics these days..????
We need more reports guys...and more pics..!!
The Flying Scotsman
Flying Scotsman,
I will be in Manila for the first time next month, and will be staying at the following hotel:
Edsa Shangri-la hotel
1 Garden Way Ortigas Center
Mandaluyoug City Metro Manila
Is that anywhere in the vicinity where your friend JR could help me out?
I've been told in the Makati forum that my hotel is an hours cab ride away from LA Cafe and also not close to the EDSA complex. So I was hoping that JR could assist me.
Thanks in advance for any help you can give.
Regards,
Indurate
Flying scotsman and secret asian man,
I tried to send you a pm but it seems that this is not possible. To get in direct cont please send me your private e-mail address. I will reach Manila on 31 Jan 2004 in the afternoon. It would be a pleasure to get in contact with you.
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she needs it by 2nyt- you can contact her at 09212252216
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Indurate...EDSA Shangri La is about 45 mins, depending on traffic from the action in Makati and EDSA. In the evening its not too bad. PM and let me know when ur gonna be in Manila next month and im sure we can fix something.
Flying Scotsman
I read in the papers that they have an LRT now Edsa all the way to TAFT. Maybe this can be a good alternative for transportation and I am sure less expensive. Is it safe? What are the operation hours? How much is the fare?
Flying Scotsman:
Thanks for your help! I very much appreciate it.
I will be arriving Friday, 6th, and staying for a full week.
I'm guessing that JR is going to be my best bet, from the posts I have read so far.
What do you think the chances are of working girls in and around the hotel I'm staying at? Is where I'm staying completely dead to action?
Also, any problems with a white boy venturing out to the EDSA complex or LA Cafe by himself? I'll probably stick out like a sore thumb, as I'm well over 6' tall and over 200lbs. I don't know the culture, so I'm a bit apprehensive overall (I keep hearing all the stories about americans being kidnapped, etc.). My logical side says that is about as likely as me being hit by a bus in the states, but it doesn't hurt to ask you guys who know.
I can't thank you enough for your replies, this info is invaluable.
Indurate
Who can recommend a (female) guide for day and night sightseeing in and around Manila? Beside the relaxing hours I interested to see and learn more of Manila and the Philippines. Therefore, that girl should be well educated and should be willing to share upto 3 or 4 days with me. I am in the beginning of the 50's.
Is JRay a alternative and how much does he expect for his services?
Indurate,
You'll have no problem sticking out. It just makes you a prime target for pimps and the working girls. Like myself, I'm 6'2" and 200 lbs also and do stick out like a sore thumb. A white guy wearing a "Barong" during the weekdays and speaks the language a little bit. Sure beats wearing a suit. You might be more a victim of a rip-offs than a kidnapping so just be safe.
Isagani,
The LRT runs the whole of EDSA. From Taft Avenue, in Pasay to West Avenue in Quezon City. It is safe to ride but the wait can be as long as twenty minutes between trains. But, the Taft Station drops you of in a very busy and crowded place. Not a safe place for a foreigner, if going alone or without a guide or friend that knows the area. I bring one of my girlfriends with me whenever I ride to that area or Cubao. Average fare runs between P10 to P20 depending on destination.
Indurate:
Half the people you see at LA Cafe and/or EDSA are going to be white guys who are there on their own. Don't worry about it. You'll be safe. I have never encountered a problem bringing women back to my room anywhere in any hotel here, though I have not stayed in the Shangri La. As to the risks of kidnapping, it's real but remote. I think common sense is the operative word here.
Have a great time. Manila is a fun city. Don't forget to check out P. Burgos St. if this is your first trip and check out some of the ladies who hang around the Hard Rock Cafe and TGI Fridays.
Be safe.
Rabbit Ears,
I haven't seen anymore reports from you Pal. You mentioned some exciting plans or the 23-24 and this time has past. What happened?
Your comment about bending the lady over the window facing the Manila skyline has me thinking. I have a Hotel in Davao where I have the rooftop Presidential Suite with a small balcony. I want to get my honey there with her butt on the railing, arms around my neck as I pound the "beast' into her. As I am tall and solid and she is tiny and light, this should work out fine. One of our guys will be hanging with me there so I will have him watching from below to critique the situation for you guys.
I still have no one meeting me in Makati next Friday night. So, I imagine I will be "hanging" at Woodmens Head on Burgos and then off to a few Clubs. Look for me around 11:00PM.
DS
Hey guys, thanks for the plethora of useful info. As I said in a previous post, I'm visiting Manila this March. I have a couple of unrelated questions:
1) I read somewhere that LA Cafe has a "korean" section where those guys will dish out upwards of P3000 for freelancers! I'm also korean(american), but I'm smart enough to know not to raise the market value. The problem is, if I'm talking to a cutie and she asks me what nationality I am, won't telling her I'm korean lead to her jacking up the fee? Should I lie and tell her I'm from another, less wealthy, country?
2) I was able to get to know a couple of cute girls online and agreed to meet up w/ them when I get to Manila. I have their digits but my cell can't make int'l calls. I heard cell phones in Manila are dirt cheap but, since I'll only be there 9 days, will it be worth it to get 1? Also, can I even get one there if I dont live there? If so, can anyone recommend the best places to buy a cheap phone?
Thanks and keep up the good work guys!
Just back from my trip to the Philippines. I didn't have a lot of time in Manila but tried to survey quickly all the ares I knew to be interesting.
Burgos Street I found too much of a muchness - go go bars with fairly aggressive girls and big bar fines. I only went into two bars there but in one the girls were all but doing it there and then in the bar. My own preference is for a bar where you can relax and have a drink, survey the scene and choose which girls you want to talk to.
Timog Street in Quezon City mainly consists of sleezy bars where there is a scramble to bring out the girls when you arrive and where it's too dark to see what you're going to get.
My favourite by far is LA Cafe where you can spend as much time as you like just wandering around and having a drink or two and deciding whether you want to take a girl or not. There are also a lot of really stunning girls there - and no bar fine to pay. However, the down side is that it seems to be the only place in that part of town with any interesting action - correct me if I'm wrong.
Stace,
IMHO a cell phone is worth the modest expense, especially if you ever plan to return, but even if you do not. Residency is not required with pre-paid card phones, which is what most people use. Best phones for use outside of Metro Manila are Smart phones. Someone here may have a different opinion of the best company to use in Manila.
Can't help you with the Korean thing, short of saying: why not just tell them you're American ? Good luck.
FD
Stace,
1. Dont lie. Just tell them you're american, but korean american. And let them know that you dont throw money around like the japanese or koreans do. Give them your price (P1,000/ P1500/ P2000 ?) and take it or leave it. They know americans are stingy and dont pay outrageous barfines or fees.
2. You can buy a 2nd-hand cellphone in very good working condition. Its just an older model, but will fit your needs. Go to Robinsons Mall in Malate, Manila and wander the ground floor. There is a section there that has a lot of cellphone stores who will sell you used. You can them them under US$100 (P5,500) including a Prepaid Card. The provider is either SMART or GLOBE. EIther is fine. Then you need to buy the prepaid card to charge it. Buy about P1,000 worth. It should be enough for the week.
Can anyone recommend a good short-time sex hotel in Manila? I am looking for one of the places that have fuck-chairs, mirrors on the ceiling and walls and hopefully a jacuzzi.
Thanks in advance for your assistance.
Stace,
1. Just tell them your an American. One sure thing is that you won't have that korean accent that most business men come with. Be firm on your price. Walk away if it souns too much. There are others who will take your offer.
2. Get a phone. As Firedick and genius8 said, its very affordable. Plus when your done with it, you can give it to one of the girls your visiting or someone else as a gift. Lots of brownie pints there. Second thing about phones here in the Philippines. It is mostly used for texting rather than talking.
As for saying your from a less wealthy country. If you grew up in the Philippines. Any country sounds weathier.
Scotsman,
She has a cute body, but I dont like her face. I wouldnt pay more than P1200 for her "services". I doubt that's her asking price since she obviously has an overvalued sense of her own self-worth. Or undervalued, if you look at it from an ethical standpoint. Either way, she better not be even an 8 in the eyes of the posters who have travelled often to Manila or I'm screwed.
trace,
anyone staying in pi for more than 3 days, i highly recommend them to visit angeles city. unlike manila or makati, you don't have to waste your time negotiating a damn thing; 1000piso and that is for lt. hotels, ld, food and just about everything else is cheaper.
just tell them you're korean. pi girls don't understand how an asian becomes an american and they probably think you are lying if you told them you were an american. i'm korean candian but gave up explaining to them. avoid korean or japanese karaoke bars as they can really peel you off.
in manila, don't mess around with ermita and makati. stick to edsa where girls ask for a little less. most will ask for 3000, but never to pay more than 2000. just ask taxi driver to get there.
around edsa area, within 5~10 minutes taxi ride, there are local bars with a band & dance floor. these places have awesome looking chics. some will go to your hotel and some won't, but it's cool to blend in with the local atmosphere for a change, and pi people can sing. again, just ask the cabbies.
happy mongering
Stace,
8 seems about right, nice but not noteworthy. You do need to keep in mind though that for some reason (IMHO) Filipinas are not the most photogenic girls in the world. I doubt that you will be disappointed in person. I have no idea who this chick thinks she is, but "overvalued" is an understatement.
Of note: The Philippines is the number one text messaging country in the world.
FD
Hi George1951,
JayR's guide service of showing you the spots in the city to get girls from is basically his taxi's useage and his time.
I give him anywhere between 500-750($9-15) pesos at the end of a 2-5 hour night of scouring the city. It's always at your discretion what you tip, just be considerate.
He's a casual guide that's why alot of us WSG members prefer his company, he won't rush you, he won't push anyone at you that's his style- it's never business like, he's your friend.
Tell him what you're looking for and he will most likely take you to a spot where you can find her.
You can also order in, he'll load his taxi up with as many girls as he can muster and show them to you at your hotel or near it. You can always say no and he'll return with a new batch. Since they're from the 3k boarding houses/casas that's how much it costs.
Jay R entertains guests from the Americas, locally, the Mid East, mainland Asia, and everwhere else in the middle so he'll know where to find whatever floats your boat.
Enjoy
Travel to Monger,
If you want a short time sex hotel w/ jacuzzi and overhead mirrors its easy to find. To have fuck chairs is a little bit harder since there are very few left (if any) and definitely not in a jacuzzi room. These ST places are called MOTELS locally, and the biggest chains are ANITO and ViICTORIA COURT. Just get into any taxi and tell him you want the kind of room in ANITO or VC, and he will take you there. Upon arrival, tell the motel boy the kind of room you want. Jacuzzi rooms are the most expensive and can run you P1,000 and up.
STACE,
For me the filipina in the website is about a 6.5 in face and 7 in body. Total package I would rate a 7 because she has the slutty look. Although I did not see her price, what I read in the website shows someone who thinks too highly of themselves. Dont communicate w/ her INDEED if I have no plans to visit the PI in 2004. and ONLY RICH MEN need apply! Hah! I can afford a USD1,000 call girl at least ONCE in my life, but I would not pay her more than P5,000 overnight IF she worked in a top club in Manila, and thats being generous.
back last week for monthly trip to Manila ( i live in Shanghai ).
Had yahoo freebies for most of my time but did venture to Grand Bouelvard massage where ive generall had good experiences. They did the "line up" and there was only two to pick from. This was in afternoon. Took the better of the two ...but when she got naked had horrible belly.. lots of cuts.. look like the doctor who deliverd her baby had a knife fetish. Anyways was ok.. P1000 for massge and P1000 for blow sensation.
To all,
As far as Honey 18f site is concerned, I would just make it clear that no way am I recomending anyone to get in touch. I just thought it an interesting site with nice pics. :)
Watch out for my interesting pics over the next few weeks tho. :)
The Flying Scotsman
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Travel to Monger,
In addition to what genius8 wrote, here's the website address for victoria court.
http://www.victoriacourt.biz/
See for yourself if you like their amenities.
Good luck,
SC
Dude,
Those Victoria Ct rooms are AWESOME! They look more like hotel rooms in Vegas! Anyway, the DAILY RATES are P1,150 which is about $20 US. Definitely reasonable. Hell I might just stay there during my entire stay!
Preparing myself again.
Arriving Manila on 07feb04, having my special fubu around during the weekend. Then business the following week, visiting Cebu as well (a resort). Back in Manila on 13th, exploring the possibilities, before leaving on Sunday.
I know it will be hectic, but I shall manage! For sure!
BTW: One of my friends asked me today if I was going away on a businesstrip soon. How come you ask, I replied. He said: You have that silly, well recognizable smile on your face again. :blush:
hehehe..
Take Care! / Ingats!
Can someone clue me in about which Victoria Court is the best for punters? Also is it anywhere near the LA Cafe or bar that I see mentioned here frequently?
I hope to spend a short time in Manila either later this year or early next year. I plan to visit Manila, Angeles City, and Cebu.
Rest of the holiday will be in Thailand. Doing a bit of pre-retirement scouting and some overdue celebrating. So I'm not looking forward to spending all night in the bars getting soused. Good food, some entertainment, and reasonably pretty girl is my basic wish list. Nice, but not expensive places to stay, of course.
Tatoosh
I'm going back to Manila for either 14 or 24 days. Last time, I stayed a couple of nights at the Heritage Hotel, City Garden and then went to Cebu. However, this time I will be in Manila for the entire trip.
Can any of you recommend a nice hotel ($50-75) price range around the Ermita/Malate area? The Heritage is nice but it's too far from everything.
I'll be there after March 3rd if any of you want to go out for a few drinks.
Regards
Hey there guys:
Has anyone been to any good Topless shows lately in Pasay or anywhere in Manila?
I used to go to these places, but, they rip me off so much I stopped going. (They charge me outrageous prices that I know they don't charge others. I know that because I have a driver when in Manila, and he tells me that, especially since I arrive with a driver. Yeah, I know, its stupid, but, I just don't want to get into a wrong cab when I am drunk)
I will be back there again soon, and thought it would be good to go out and see some good tits.
cheers,
Lalake
Lalake, try Victory Hills new club in Pasay...ok if u just wanna watch,..but expensive otherwise.
Full reports from me later. I'm to busy!
The Flying Scotsman
Another dreamy experience at Skyline Health club at Grand Boulevard Hotel. Due to browser hijinks, I can't be sure if my report last night got through or is just being reviewed right now. Just in case, I mentioned that this Masage place is different in that you get an actual hotel room, and the selection of ladies seems rather fine.
Karen is a petite porcelain doll, busty, currently wearing braces which I found kinda cute. We hit it off and got right down to business - nice prolonged nipple kissing, a wet and tight Bj, followed by several positions. I will definitely see her again.
Looks like Skyline is it for me - definitely like the relaxed vibe, and the prices (1000/1200 and 1500 for the girl) are erasonable (at least by my East Coast standards.)
Just spent 3 nights in Manila, and spent them all in Diamond Regal! Similar to Victory Hills, they are within 2-minutes walk from one another on Roxas Blvd.
The girls go less than topless, with many going bottomless, in Diamond - full splits, dry humping, and spreading of lips on the stage. There was a new girl, Trixie, who smoked a cigarette on stage in her pussy! First time I've seen anything like that in Manila! She did great on the first night, on the second, she made a mistake and ash fell on her lips. You should have seen her jump!
Anyway, Victory has the advantage of a raised stage, and you get the full view of everything from most seats. Diamond has the prettier girls, but the stage is barely above floor level, so unless you are sitting really near the stage (a bit dangerous as some of the "star" performers may decide to wipe their pussies on your nose and charge you one ladies drink) your view is blocked by couches in front of you when the girl is doing her stuff on the floor.
There's an entrance fee (waived if you're a regular). Ladies drinks are 250p unless you feed the girls tequila (highly recommended!) then it goes up to 430p.
Barfine is anything from 4500 to 7000. I paid 8k once, overpriced, but she was a gorgeous "near cherry" and I had to have her. Lasted till late noon the next day, and she came back for a quickie on her way to work the next day, so I didn't feel like I overpaid.
Most of the hotels nearby are girl friendly - Heritage, Traders, Westin, and Hyatt (in decreasing rank).
Don't worry too much about a taxi back to the hotel. Just ask the mamasan to arrange. They have a vested interested in making sure that you are safe, and keep on returning. The clubs normally have a pool of taxis that they use to transport the girls anyway.
Just want to add that ALL hotels in the Philippines are girl friendly. The barfine in Diamond Real is P6500 before midnight & P5500 after that plus 1 hour of table charge (P650). Ask for Rhey as your Floor Manager (FM). He will take care of you really well.
Diamond Regal is 5500+ bar fine?? Did I miss something or did the bar fines in Manila just double? Or is this 1 of those "upscale" places? Someone clue me in here as I'm going to Manila next month and I might suddenly not have enough dough to last the 9 days I'm there!
That seems about right. I got quoted between 6-8K barfine at Stardust on Quezon Ave. But my floor manager advice me to ask the girls and see if they can meet me outside the club after or before work.
You might as well hang at LA Cafe, its seems to be the best place to hang with lots of girls to choose from.
2 more weeks for me and touchdown in Manila.
Cheers,
IB
Where exactly is LA Cafe? If it is on P.Burgos, P. Burgos is in Manila not Ermita. Can anyone tell me the exact address?
Isagani,
Here's the address of LA Cafe:
La Cafe Bar & Grill
1429 M. H. Del Pilar
Ermita Manila
Isagani asks: "Where exactly is LA Cafe? If it is on P.Burgos, P. Burgos is in Manila not Ermita. Can anyone tell me the exact address?"
I have been away for more than 30 years but I still remember Ermita as a district of Manila.
LA Cafe is in Malate, also a district of Manila. There are many hotels in the area. You are going to have to do some of your own research to narrow down the options.
Have you tried the telephone directory? Have you asked a taxicab driver?
Ref L.A. Cafe:
Does it really matter where it is? I doubt if you are going to rent a car and drive there. Just ask any cab driver where it is. It's like asking where the Empire State Building is in N.Y. It's famous and everyone knows where it is. If I remember correctly, it's about 15 minutes (non traffic hours) from Makati. You also don't want to be caught outside on the streets there alone at night. Rough area for sure.
Cheers,
Iahnrt
Isagani,
A quick geography lesson: All the discussed areas are concidered "Metro Manila". Some are independant cities, some are neighborhoods or barrios or barangays. Ermita and Malate are part of Manila City proper. P. Bugous is in Makati. EDSA complex is in Pasay City.
L.A. Cafe is the same locale as the former Rosies Diner, a very famous night spot. As iahnrt said, does it really matter ? You'll be taking a taxi right ? Just make sure the taxi has a meter and ask him to use it. If not, get out. At peak traffic hours do not "freak" if it seems he is taking you in circles. Traffic often requires the use of numerous "short cuts".
The hotels in Ermita are walking distance from L.A. Cafe and I wouldn't worry as much as iahnrt implies. Follow common sense rules (don't walk out stumbling drunk) and walk with confidence. I lived in Ermita for 8 months and never had a confrontation. I walked a lot, at all hours, unless I was drunk.
Pick up a copy of Moon Publications "Philippine Handbook". Good info, good maps and not as "holier than thou" as the Lonely Planet books. Amazon has it new for $13, used for $7.
Good luck
FD
Stace,
Diamond Regal is one of the upscale nightclubs in Metro Manila. It is actually is Pasay City along Roxas Blvd. I stated the barfine is P6500/P5500 (before/after midnight). If you are used to barfining or spending under P4000 total for overnight, then the places to go are the EDSA entertainment complex along EDSA Blvd, just a block away from the corner of Roxas Blvd & EDSA Blvd (where you can see the 5-star Heritage Hotel).
I was in the EDSA complex a couple of months ago and, in my opinion, its really gone downhill. The girls, regardless of the bar, were nothing much, the places were pretty aggressive, and to me it was more worthwhile to leave there and head to P. Burgos or the LA Cafe. I was staying at the Heritage so EDSA was the most convenient place, but it really was not worth the efort.
Sauna/ Massage parlors:
Star Trek and Air Force One in Sucat Road offers great all the way service. They are a block away form each other. Location is probably 15 minutes from the NAIA airport using sucat road going to the expressway.
Air Force one is 5 star, Star Trek half a notch below. Aquarium, shows girls from 6 to 8 rating on the regular rooms and 8 to 9 rating on the VIP sections.
During happy hours, room rates are $18. Girls for all the way service..including the great massage is an additional $18 given to the girl.
I really enjoy the Two Masseuse deal of $26 for the room and $36 for the girls, $18 each. They will give you a really good massage and you can have sex with both, but not at the same time. They do not want to share body fluids. Smart.
Stace & Ilongo_boy,
Do not pay those rediculous prices. Reminds me of the guy raving in the China section about the great night he had in Beijing for $ 350 US with a girl and going back the next day to tip the Mamason $ 50. A little more and he would have paid the monthly salary of an MD in a hospital there.
Enjoy Manila but then take a 1 hour flight to either Dumaguete City or Davao City (1 1/2 hrs). Cost me only $ 48 US for a last minute flight to Davao last week. Fucked my dick off and had a blast. Women are everywhere. Both cities are teeming with young co-eds age 18 - 30 plus plenty of pros.
I made Manila my headquarters for my first 4 years going to the Philippines. Then I switched to Cebu for the past 9 years. Now, I am moving it to Davao City where the traffic is light and life is slow and, most importantly, lovely women are in abundance. Dumaguete City is next on the list.
Dragon Slayer
Guys
you gotta try Skyline ^_^
it's an MP in Roxas Blvd- awsesome selection of girls- at a reasonable rate :)
Address:
Skyline Health Club
8th Flr Grand Boulevard Hotel
There's even a top 10 list for reference purposes ^_^
Rooms are at P1,200 (for 1 hr 15 mins) tip for the girls is at P1,500
They even have Twin, Triplet and QUADRUPLET services ;)
well, do post your rants and raves when you do try it out :D
I will be coming to Manilla for the first time in May. I was considering either the Hyatt or Heritage. Is either one more guest friendly then the other - how about their proximity to the "action". I did read that heritage is close to Edsa but what about Hyatt? I read Edsa is going downhill - so what else is close by?
Thanks for your help here guys.
Hank
The twin service is the most I would use when visiting the Skyline Health Club.
Whenever I want to pamper myself. Its kinda hard to patronize both Air Force One and Skyline so I always alternate.
Hank Stram
If this is your first time in Manila, I know that you will have a good time staying at Heritage and visiting EDSA across the street. For a beginner there is absolutely nothing wrong with the place.
The barfine is php 1000 and the girls expect 1500 for the night. Dont remember the cost of a lady-drink, sorry.
The Casino Bar is my favorite place. Herman is a bartender there, and he can tell you what girls are new to the place. He is not much behind the bar, but around talking to the customers. You may think he is gay, but he is married with family. Buy him and the floormanagers a beer or drink, tell them at regular cost, not as ladies-drink cost. If you become a repeater, they all threat you in a good way, ie no hustling. Not so many customers in any bars in EDSA nowadays, but plenty of girls. Most average, but some gems as well.
Whatever you do in Manila, you will have a good time. I just say that you shall avoid the Bourgos area, since the costs is skyhigh. After a few days, getting familiar with Manila, then you should visit LA Cafe and Malate area, and that is about 10-15 minutes drive from Heritage.
Have fun
thought i'd repay those who come after me. i snarfed up a bunch of useful info from this site before i headed over to the pi for the first time a few weeks back with ten days off and untreated yellow fever. i seriously love the filipina!
about me; late thirties, professional, fit and very discriminating female tastes. always a size 4 and smaller in the states and has to be a looker. i am not a professional monger by any means. just have the asian fetish! plus, i came prepared with lingerie (more xs thongs next time and no use in much over 34b....32b is the most sought after size), perfume, et al. the filipinas genuinely appreciated this and they were all great fun. also, i waaay over-pay/tip because they deserve it in my mind. just think of how much you drop in a strip club in atlanta/lasvegas/nyc in one night with nothing to show for it and so very few laughs?
fifteen hrs. flight not the most fun. airfare $1000 rt. midnight arrival to manila diamond ($90/night five star) in ermita near la cafe (on purpose). rough section, for sure. took taxi just a few blocks to la cafe. great scene. several hundred girls 18-35yo ranging from 5 to 9's who were there for the asking. fish in a barrel and great fun. i engaged two in talk and drink and dance. one (24 yo) finally broke down and cried saying she just gave birth six months ago and her boyfriend left her. she was a 8+. i tipped her and sent her packing at the bar and scooted off with the other, a solid 9 (21 yo). she probably told me her fee, but i am sure i gave her way more than she expected because she was awesome and i enjoyed the hell out of her. several hours of very nice activities and then she showered and left as the sun was coming up. i wouldn't have minded hanging with her for a few days. (note: the third go round with this lovely was some serious friction and the condom unknowingly shredded. it was the only unprotected contact i had in the pi and i got a nasty case of gonnorhea and chlamydia developed when i got home. could have been worse. warning to the wise!).
next day i slept off the flight. got a hotel massage. $10 and strictly therapeutic.
that night in a pre-arranged tour of manila clubs, i hit makati real early and since it was quiet we drove over to edsa. for those who do not know what it is, edsa complex is this large building on a major thoroughfare that is essentially a strip mall with a dozen or so clubs with dancers. you go in and if you see one you like. buy her a drink. simple enough. if the mood is right, barfine her and go have a blast.
there were less clients than dancers, by far, in each of the places we went. finally, settled in the pit stop. my friends ate. we all had several beers and i finally called a pair of girls down from the stage to drink. they had a few drinks as did a girl who's b-day it was and then i barfined the two hotties (it was their idea to take both!). my total bill was like $84 including the meals and double-bar fine! great fantasy night and both of these 19 yo were exceptional in looks and attitude. gave them both gifts (lingerie, perfume and $$$) in am. once again, i'd have hung out with them for days! er, maybe years!
went to angeles for three nights. see that report separately.
upon returning to manila, i stayed at the intercontinental in makati, the upscale section of town. great internet price ($75/night) if 21 day advance. next to giant mall. several massages in the spa at ih. strictly therapeutic, but nice.
checked out hard rock cafe on a weeknight. the pickings were few, but there were certainly girls looking to meet ex-pats. things may have improved had i stayed later. went to jool's in makati. over rated and the pressure on buying lady drinks was overwhelming and i never have a problem dropping coin. the irritating element was that soooo many girls (all good-looking and decently hot) were hounding me, you couldn't engage in banter with the one you are interested in. the dance show was ok, but it was more vegas than t&a. i wanted to leave with one of the gro, but i got so frustrated with the lady-drink oppression that i just left after dropping $140 in an hour and a half. dumb and not enjoyable.` i also went to night train on the same street. some really young looking freelancers walking on the sidewalk but that isn't my scene at all. taxi over to la cafe late, but the place was still hopping. same scene as before, but i was restless. taxi to edsa...very late. had a blast at firehouse with chicks in the little crowd (freelancers?) and barfine this incredible mestiza chica. she was a wow...
spent the remaining three days with this spectacular 4'10" pocket julia roberts lookalike. 20 yo and just precious. use your imagination.
philippines are a freakin blast. i'm heading back over late april/early may. it's good to be king! luv the filipina!
Golazo:
Glad you enjoyed your first trip to Manila so thoroughly. If you plan to come for a longer period next time, you should try spending some time in Davao and Cebu. The night spotes are 're less upscale, or at least less intense than the Manila/Makati clubs, but every bit as enjoyable and much, much cheaper.
If you get here in late April, consider coming to Davao and partying with Dragon Slayer and me.
Golazo,
Thanks for contributing to raising the market value in Manila. You're right, one pays far more at the strip joints in the US and get nothing to show for it. But guess what? Your over-tipping will encourage the bars and clubs in Manila to move in that direction too. Use your head you buffoon. How easily you forget that everything there is way cheaper so giving a FL at LA Cafe $50 is like giving an FL in the US $300 or more! This message board is very informative but you selectively forget the posts about keeping the market low and tipping the FLs 1500 MAX. I'll be there in 3 weeks and I hope I run into that girl you had at LA Cafe so she can quote me P3000+ thanks to you.
Davao is in Mindinao. Many Filipinos warned me about traveling South. Davao sounds cool and I am sure it is a great place to meet locals, tempting, but is it worth the risks?
Thanks for the offer.
Golazo,
What risks in going to Davao? Rookie, what the fuck are you talking about here? I think this is all too much for you. Leave the real action to US serious Asian Travellers.
You overpaid for everything from the Airfare, Hotel (yes, a shitty area and all), and the Women. Most of all, the women. Paid more in one night than I do for an entire week of serious fun. I am not on a tight budget when in Asia but why waste money needlessly.
Now to those risks in Davao. I have made a dozen separate trips there over the last six years. Two in the past nine months, including the one this month. It is certainly a hell of a lot safer than Manila, which I made my Philippine headquarters for four years from 1991 - 1995. The locals who advised you were either taxi cab drivers or other con artists who wanted to keep a "smart guy" like you in Manila so they could finish bleeding you dry of all your funds.
Had another rookie on his "virgin trip" spend all his time in Angeles City, nicknamed prostitute city by many of us. He asked me if all the women in the Philippines were *****s. Says a lot for the Mother of my Daughter, a former beauty contest winner and employed as a computer operator at the Mayor's Office in Leyte.
I sincerely wish all you rookies would get several years serious (I mean serious) experience before you come off with these outrageous comments. A little knowledge IS a dangerous thing.
D. S.
Stace
To be annoyed by a post you must believe it first.
FD
Golazo:
There is probably less of a risk of encountering serious trouble in Davao than in Manila. The places to which you're referring, such as Basilan, Tawi-Tawi and others, are far away from here. Davao is a pretty laid back and peaceful place. If you do come here though, I trust you will stick to the local pay scales.
Golazo,
I leave for a couple of weeks and expecting to return with a stronger dollar exchange. Instead, you overpay and make it seem that there will be more of your type coming into the country. I do not mind the gift part since that is a personal style thing. But do stay within the going market rates the next time your in the country.
Secondly, $90/night at Ermita is way over priced. As with those club/bar tours, just plain avoid them. When thinking in perspective to prices in the States, yes it is way cheaper than Vegas. But that doesn't work in the Philippines were an average worker only takes home less than $100 a month.
Lastly, Ignore that CIA travel report to Mindanao. That same report tells of daily bombings in Manila which hasn't happened for a couple of years now. Yes they bombed the airport and wharf area in Davao asccording to the news. If you were there, you'd know that it was outside the airport ( a waiting shed is what gotbombed and were most of the casualties were at ) and outside the main entrance of the pier (the bomber couldn't get past the security point). Security in Davao is higher than Manila, not only in terrorist threats but in crime as well. Making it a safe place compared to Manila. You'd be surprise how many foreigners are there in Mindanao.
Just avoid Basilan, Tawi-Tawi and Sulu as Goodenough has said. Glad you enjoyed your first trip to the PI. Learn from the members of this board. Your next trip should even be better and cheaper.
P.S. Just to rub it in. My ticket to Bangkok to San Francisco and back to Manila only cost me $680 via CHina Airlines with a two week notice. With a 3 hour stop over in Taipie on the return but a small price to pay.
GoodEnough,
Face it Pal, these guys coming here in Manila on there "once in a lifetime" fling are hopeless. But let's keep them up here where we both still manage to do just fine with the ladies, in spite of these guys throwing 5-10 times the going rate at the women.
In Davao we both have a great thing going. We do not need some temporarily unmarried dreamers messing up our fun.
D.S.
Stace,
Face it, no way we will ever educate the first timers and "once in a lifetime" Asian traveller. It really doesn't matter. When the ladies realize we are not a "dumbass rookie", they will either move on or, more likely, adjust their price back to reality.
The Tales of "today is my birthday" and "I have a newborn baby" related by Golazo have been told to me hundreds of times in both Thailand and the Philippines. It doesn't have me ripping my wallet out. Nor do the ladies up and split when the line falls short.
One thing I am certain of for both countries, the supply far exceeds the demand. I read about guys paying as much as 5000 baht for Go-Go girls in Pattaya City, Thailand. Last June I took a gorgeous 21 y/o out of Starlight Go Go for only 500 baht and fucked her three times. She knew from the start by my speaking fluent Thai that I am not a rookie but went along anyway. She left ,essages for me with a friend asking that I look her up on my return, which I did.
Hey Gents!
Discovered your forum a few weeks past. Nice vibe of seasoned pros here you've got going. Well done!
I'm new to mongering within the past 2 years and all my time was spent in Thailand. Had a thing for filipinas for years though and think this summer I'll swing over to the PI and taste the fruits there.
So, I'd like to ask for some online map URL's if I may that you use as reference in your own plans. I did some searching of threads last week and came up with travel agents and hotels but no map sites. Anyone have any good links to online maps for any area of the Phillipines?
Thanks!
Too Much Mind,
I have been thoroughly scouring the web for the same thing, but I still havent found a decent map that shows (and names) all of the pertinent streets in Manila. I found a bunch of maps of areas like Malate, Makati, and Quezon, but again, not in the detail I would prefer. I think the only option is to buy 1 at a bookstore or online. I was thinking of taking a chance and just buying a map IN Manila since the maps there have got to be way cheaper than the crazy prices the US companies charge. 16 days left for me until MP/FL heaven!
I'll be in Philippines next April. I'd like to stop only a couple of night in Manila. Looking for any suggestion for a hotel not expensive, girls friendly and... where to go during the night
(many members suggest La Cafe).
Thanks
Hot Sam:
I cannot give you much advice on a range of hotels, but I can tell you that I've gotten P2500 (about $45) rates at both the Dusit and the Intercontinental, both of which are 5 star hotels in the middle of Makati. In my case, the company made the arrangements, but I know others who have gotten the same deals on their own. All it takes is a willingness to bargain, and an ability to bullshit reasonably well with the Duty Manager. I like the 5 stars because of all the amenities and the location, which is pretty convenient to almost everything. Also, the safety factor is enhanced at these hotels. I have never seen a hotel anywhere in the Philippines that is not girl friendly.
As to where to go at night, I would pay close attention to the contributors to this forum. I have never found them to be far off the mark. For me, the LA Cafe remains the best, but surely not the only, game in town.
Too Much,
Both Nelles Maps and National Bookstore Inc have good maps for sale, but not free online viewing.
FD
Brothers,
I just returned from a trip to AC and Makati/Manila. I posted my Makati trip report tonight on that board. Rather than posting it again here, just thought I would let you know in case anyone was interested in reading it.
Yes, it was my rookie trip and no doubt I made some mistakes. We were all rookies at one time and you have to start somewhere. Thanks to this board, I feel that I limited my mistakes and did not overpay except for one or maybe two times when I was over served. hehehe But even then, it was not extravagant. I have made numerous trip to Peru, and two to Colombia in the past so I am not a pure rookie in any sense, but I knew very little about the RP. This board helped alot.
I had ask one guy if all women in the RP were *****s. In the context I was asking, I thought it was clear that I was not really serious, but more of a rhetorical question than anything else. I had a thought of trying to meet a regular girl while over there. I did not really know how to go about it and based on some of the posts here I assumed that the percentage of working girls was way higher than it really is. I meant no offense to anyones girlfriend or wife and I admit it was not a prudent question, even if not intended as serious. I actually did not spend all my time in AC, but also went to Makati/Manila. I would like to return and go to Cebu and Davao.
Anyway, thanks to all who post here as it really helped me alot on this trip.
Good hunting,
Mikster
Does anyone have the exact addresses for Air Force One and Star Trek in Manila? From what I gather they are located on Sucat Road. But where?
Also, does anyone have a complete or comprehensive list (Names, addresses) of massage parlors and daytime options in Metro Manila?
Stace,
Its better to buy your maps there in the Philippines. When you get there, just go to National Bookstore (biggest local chain) and buys the maps. They range in price from P100-P500 ($2-$10) depending on the complexity you want. Most hotels 4 star or better will have these for sale too.
All others taht want to get good priced accomodations should try www.asiatravel.com I personally use this while in the Philippines.
Xenono looks like you might need a guide for at least your exploration out, then you can prolly get there on your own next time.
Give my guide Jay R a call 09174145416, he knows where AF1 and other places are as well as 24/7 massage parlors around town with the best bang for the buck.
He just brought me a couple of girls- a virgin that I looked over and haven't decided on and a girl who just started working yesterday. He hasn't lost his touch :)
If you're into doing the starlets that you see on TV, for the right price you can have them I believe Jay R has connections to those now. Ask him.
Good Luck and Have Fun!
Dear Mongers,
For those coming to or already in the Philippines, and need help in fresh "flower" (girls, girls, girls) please do not hesitate to call (02) 8519932 Manila/Makati area, alternatively call or sms/text +639194783478 (0919 4783478 - local). Ask for Alma and tell her you need "flowers". She will know what to do until you are satisfied - and you will.
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Can anyone here tell me whether the Mandarin Oriental is girl friendly?
Mandarin Oriental is girl friendly. A good location too. Short distance to where the bars are.
Ei ppl- have two lady pals looking for *uhm* business :D (monkey business to be exact) ;)
If you're interested- call them up ^_^
Mitch - 09182697445
Petite- does BBBJ
Great Service
Malou - 09212252216
Petite- does BBBJ
Cutie
Dianne - 09204748282
Does BBBJ- Big Bumpers
:D
tell them Django referred you
Don't forget the FRs
Hello Django
What about the price range for the girls?
Hello,
I read the FR in this place. It will end up in the same question all over again. Are we not reading the old FR ?
Besides I been to LA Cafe a couple of times now and it is always freelancer were. The price are 500 - 800 for shorttime and 1000 - 1500 for overnight the quality are 6 - 8.
The service are mosthly ok just only make clear what you want.
A big diffrent for the boys comeing direct from western country are the pay girls in philippines (hookers) do not really see themself as hookers.
They will treat you as thier boyfriend but mosthly will try to 'hook' you for longer time.
So bee wise!
Remember in Philippines to many girls and so little time!
Regards
Well I just got back from my second trip to the RP. Had a great time. I can't believe some of the stuff I'm reading. Why do some people even bother reading these posts if their going to ignore the sage advice provided here?
Have to agree with ya'll about the L.A. Cafe. Love the place. I stayed at the Bayview Park hotel across from the US Embassy. Not the greatest hotel, but not bad either. My Pinoy friend was able to book it for me at the local rate of about 1,500Peso. The Bayview, besides being reasonably priced and well staffed (Though not the best hotel by far) has some great advantages. It's right next to the Swagman Hotel/Travel Agency. It's also a couple of blocks from the L.A. Cafe, across the street from the US Embassy, etc.
I don't like to stay in Manila to long as I'm not a big city type. So what I do is hit the L.A. Cafe early and try to find me an 8 or a 9 who wants to hit the beach with me for a few days. That's ussually easy to do. Not once have I ever even discussed money with one of the lovelies from the Cafe. If it's short time I just shove 500P in her pocket and if it's an overnight I hand her 1000 P "Cab Money" (and that's after business has been taken care of). Not that first time has one argued that it wasn't enough and they all have been just incredibly sweet and fun. Havent' had a bad experience yet.
This trip I didn't even have to go that far. I arrived at the hotel at 8am all wound up from the flight. My room wasn't ready yet so I sat in the lobby and had a coffee. I spotted this gorgeous Pinay with a red halter top and the nicest JLo booty I've ever seen on a Pinay. It was lust at first site. But before I could make a move I was notified my room was ready, So I went up to shower with the idea of going next door the Swagman for a beer (I love them Aussies! 24/7 bars!). Well when I went to the bar guess who was there? Right! Ms. JLo Booty herself. To make a long story short we had a few drinks and laughs and I invited her to my room. Again, I never mentioned money. But after I had been completely satisified with her GFE treatment I just shoved a 500 P note in her pocket and sent her on her way. I hadn't even been in the country 4 hours!
My experiences at the LA Cafe have always been similiar. So I figure, why go to the expense and hassle of the go-go bars, unless you like the chase? As for me, I like the semi-pro's and Ams. I seem to have much more fun and there just as cute.
One word of warning. I did go to a go-go bar (sorry, but I can't remember the name but it was at EDSA) and the manager there kept insisting I pay my bar tab with a credit card. When I looked at the bill I noticed that there was no symbol denoting wether the amount was in USD or PP! So I figure the guy was trying to scam me for USD (My tab was 800 peso), when I insisted on paying cash he pitched a royal *****. That's when I knew for sure what he was up to. I paid cash and left! So watch out guys! Don't use Credit Cards at the clubs!
Mottley Dude and others,
I totally agree with your outlook on LA Cafe. I did the bar thing as well while in Manila and I never felt better about what I was getting than in LA Cafe. I think a guy could just find a decent hotel with swimming pool and go to LA CAfe every night and have all he could want and pay really very little, even less than AC. I dont mean to sound hard core, but I never brought money up except for one night when I wanted to bang the same girl again and she was actually the one who brought it up. I would not talk about money and if the girl did, I would blow her off and move on. Find a girl who you like, just take her back to the hotel and have a good time. In the morning I would give P500. In the event she throws a fit, I would give P200 more and send her off. Deal done. Cool Renegade gave me the tips on this one and he was giving P350 to some of them. He was right on his point, if they dont bring it up you dont have an obligation to give her what she may ask for the next morning. Im not saying stiff her and give pennies, but be reasonable and dont mark up the market. I even hestitate to bring up the no talking about money thing. Before we know it, everyone will be trying it and the girls will get wise so I probably will not mention it again. I want the same advantage when I go back.
Take care
Mikster
Mottley Dude:
I think you did a great job of summing up the entire Manila experience. I don't even bother with P. Burgos or EDSA anymore. I do what you did; head straight for the LA Cafe early, grab someone and disappear. If I'm lucky, I can find someone with whom I can spend a couple of days and nights. Like you, I have never discussed money, and I pay about the same thing you did.
One suggestion I have for you is that the next time you're here, skip Manila and try Davao. It's much smaller, less hassle, and beautiful and willing women. I like it well enough that I'm starting to dread my bi-weekly trips to Manila for business. If you get a chance, go back and read some of the earlier posts from Dragon Slayer and me on the Davao page. The round trip from Manila is about $100, and you will save this on the price difference between the two cities in the first couple of days that you're here.
GE
I've used a credit card all over, including clubs. I've never had anyone try anything as brassen as trying to bill dollars on a piso tab, but they all have tacked on a "service charge". I've never had any "funny" charges show up on the bill once I got home either.
But with ATM's getting reasonably common, why bother with a CC when a debit will do?
FD
I always use my credit card when ever I can even in the Philippines and had no problem so far with billing. But I do always check my tab for anything else that might have gotten tacked on. Most of the time, I'm always challenging how much beers the charged me or an extra entree I never ordered. Oh yeah, and the so-called, service charge.
i just returned from five days in manila. first trip, and had a great time. rather than a blow-by-blow report (so to speak) i’ll give you my assessment of some of the manila resources (ahem!) mentioned on this site. (caution: your experience may vary)
jay r.: i had jay r. pick me up at the airport, and drive me to the mandarin oriental (which indeed is girl friendly – in fact they seem to encourage getting friendly with the girls). i had brought two old gsm phones from home just for running around, and/or giving to gfs. on the way from the airport i had jay r. pick me up a philippines sim card for my phone for only 2300p plus another 650p to repair a stuck key (more on this later). on the way, jr asked me if i liked university girls. uh. sure. young, articulate, cute. why not? so he wants to sell me on a 16 year old (is this legal?) but then stopped at the dormitory for some other introductions. oops. he meant “dormitory” which is, in fact, the name of a brothel on an industrial site. seems there’s no university; probably just an oversight. girls (4-6 range) only 4000p for the night (no st). nothing i liked so went to the hotel to shower. the rest of the evening, i ran around and learned the ropes with jay r.; i had to pester him to take me to the l.a. café, as he was convinced that the girls there were spiking drinks, stealing phones and other typical bargirl stuff. but i persisted after all the stuff i had read on this site.
l.a. café: welcome to bottom-feeders’paradise (check your handguns at the door). it was packed. i wasn’t quite prepared for the variety of ‘talent’ and ‘clientele’ at l.a.c. guys ranged from 20-something joe college to 70-80 year old geezers gone to seed, in cutoffs, sleeveless t-shirts, and hairy tattoos. girls – well you name it. semi-feral lbfm fresh of the plantation; hardened street urchins tarted up for quick sale; street meat well past its shelf life; piercing and tattoos galore. a little spicy for my blood, but i tried out some of the talent despite my better judgment. i wasn’t disappointed – she was shopworn, nail-hard and managed to steal my 3000+p phone within hours after i’d connected to philippines service.
harrison plaza: perhaps i wasn’t ready for the l.a. café (i am a neophyte, cherry almost intact). the next day, i figured harrison, with its reported sunday afternoon ‘schoolgirl’ talent would be just the prescription i needed for my l.a. café hangover. went to the second floor which – by the way – is all mobile phone shops – there must be 50 of them. i happened to have my second ‘throwaway’ phone with me, so asked the first shop for a philippines phonecard. no problem, just 200p. whaaat? 200p? what if i have a problem with the phone? you know, like keys sticking? no problem, they’ll clean the contacts for free if i buy their card. i buy the card, which is exactly the same one that jay r. purchased (same box). so did ms l.a. café steal 3000+p from me, or just 200p (in which case i need to question jay r. about his ‘tip’). enough moral conundrums; on to mongering. in addition to phoneshops on the second level, all of the tarts like to hang over the railing. there are touts too, but why bother since the tarts are clearly visible. like the ‘dormitory’ there wasn’t a schoolgirl in sight (i quizzed most of them) but plenty of old leches talking them up. mostly rough trade, tattoos and all. well, at least i got my phone fixed.
robinson place: now we’re cooking. indeed there seem to be some ‘nice’ girls looking for companions here. nice looking ‘nice’ girls. got some numbers. didn’t do anything with them (i was busy).
grand boulevard hotel: right across from the promenade downtown along roxas, this is a grand hotel that has faded from its former glory, and is forced to occupy a market niche in the seamier trades if only to keep its doors open. all the shops have closed, but there is a casino, and a lobby perpetually occupied by dodgy types, with who knows what going on on the floors above. all i know is that on the 8th floor is skyline. it reminded me of the ismaelova hotel in moscow (off ismaelovski park) a humongous soviet era hotel, now owned by the georgian mafia, and well stocked (by the same) with girls from turkmenistan and elsewhere. the lifts are perpetually wallpapered with ‘dosug’ post-it notes with contact numbers. in the case of the ismaelova, there must be 2000 rooms of service. ahh memories. back to manila. the skyline is a massage parlor; great idea, as they have all of these grand old rooms to use for, well, massage. paid my 1000p room rent, and selected my catch from the fishbowl. this is something of an asian thing, picking girls from a fishbowl; sort of like selecting your dinner from the aquarium in a chinese sea palace. i like a bar where i can chat a girl up first (even if english is her second language and thinking a forgotten art). i picked a short girl with a great figure and ok face. once we were in the room, i had a bit of a chance to explore her body; outstanding with ohhhh-soooo-suckable firm breasts, mounded with elegant puffies, lush twat, muscular legs, a perfect ten. a little young though; i could have sworn she was in her teens, despite assurances she was 20. she did give a great massage, but was a bit wary of sex because of my size (about 9 inches which is big for an asian). she was really scared of being hurt, but came twice quickly; a bit of a turn-on even if it wasn’t the best sex. i came back again and had almost an identical experience with another girl. i give the skyline an a- and with a little searching for more experience it could get an a+. all this and comparatively cheap.
imperial spa: after the grand boulevard, the imperial was a letdown. it also was an old hotel, but certainly never grand. the rooms are little better than closets, with beds that look (and feel) like hospital gurneys with tattered linen. my shower only ran cold water – kind of a letdown in advance given the reason i was there. all this for 2000p for 2.5 hours (plus tip, figure double). i chose my masseuse, a good looking girl who in fact gave a lousy massage; her poor performance in that category was only exceeded by a distinctly unprofessional bj and consistent whining about her period (yuch!).
in room massage: lots of cards for these being passed around shopping centers like glorietta. for around 500-1000p you get in room service (my experience was very good with elvira), and an extra tip for, well, extra. this can be very comfortable, and you don’t have to miss any tv shows – like sex in the city.
non-hanky-panky spas: i went to one other spa on roxas that was just straight massage, and it was great; only 600p. you get a girl who scrubs you down (just like elephants in the zoo). and another girl that massages the hell out of you. it’s worth checking these out if you want to unbundled services.
edsa complex: edsa is a lot of fun. i liked the cotton club and firehouse the best (they’re bigger) but the other bars can be fun too. in general the girls are chatty; it’s easy to collect numbers to call later (there are so few customers, and so many girls, that they come running whenever you give them a call). tip! ‘up to you!’ i spent all day with two girls from the cotton club alternately fucking one while the other made sure i was comfortable with a massage. who needs a spa?
other roxas boulevard bars: i went to some other bars – lookers, east asia, etc. – on my first night. more to asian tastes with the (once again) fishbowl approach to selecting girls. except that the categorizations of ‘superstars’, ‘stars’ and so forth defies any meaningful analysis at these places. not my cup of tea.
white top (don’t try this at home): i also made it into white top, a gay bar. no problems, as they immediately saw that i was a tourist. it was a bit ironic to see scantily clad guys (my own species) cooped up inside a fishbowl waiting for consumption (guess who’s coming to dinner).
p. burgos: lots of streetwalkers, if you are into instant gratification. around 500-1000p for girls much better looking than anything that might crawl into the l.a. café. the bars can get expensive here, so best to just collect numbers and call the next day. how easy this is depends on the mama-san. some places try to corner you in a private room, then shake you down for a few dozen drinks (well, a bit more subtle than that, but you get the idea). on the other end are places like rascals, and tingles (i think that’s the name) where the mama-sans are social, and girls more relaxed. quality of girls is similar to edsa, but the bars seem more tightly run. there were not many customers anytime i was there (nor were there at edsa). i suspect that the aggressive behavior is annoying many of their customers. there seemed to be many so western guys at the mandarin oriental draping lbfms over one arm. they just weren’t selecting them from the p.burgos bars.
th-th-th-that’s all folks.
Some of you seem hooked on this Jay R. guy. Report below shows that he is not much better than most taxi drivers..e.g. "university girl" below. Of course he hates LA cafe - no commission for him.
If you need quality, get to know one girl, be VERY nice to her and have a sincere talk to her about finding a 'good nice' girl who doesn't go to LA Cafe. You will get introduced, especially if you give a few Pesos. Remember, each girl knows about 20 others that are desperate to get out of the Phils! Each of those knows 20 others.
Han Bali, great reporting! Esp from a first trip.
I havent been to Manila in a few years (2000), but its sounding quite tempting now. I remember street walkers on Burgos St, but I also remember some were quite convincing trannies.. so gotta be careful.
Fastpiston raised a good point about Jay R (althought I dont know him and he could even be honest), chances are any "guide" or driver offering gals would be taking a good slice of your money. I remember taking a tour of some of the casas (houses with mamasans and a few girls with supposed daytime jobs, i.e. salesgirls, bank clerks, etc) and although I knew I was paying too much (4000p) and the driver was getting a cut, I had the hots for one of the girls and just had to take her out.
When we got to the hotel, I asked the girl how much was her take and she said 1000p. I have a feeling the drivers get a much larger cut then they should.
I used to stay at the Century Park hotel (next door to Harrison Plaza) and I noticed the tarts leaning over the railings too.. (har har).. I guess its an OK place to hang out in the afternoon having a capuccino and making eye contact with the gals walking by. On almost every trip to Manila, I'd nail me an afternoon quickie from there.
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Goodenough
I'd like to try Davao. Sounds like it would be a whole lot of fun. I have yet to do Angeles and I've been told that a monger should do Angeles at least once. But Davao sounds more my style then AC.
I agree with Fastpiston. The best times are to be had with the non-pro's. So make friends and build relationships. It makes the experience much more interesting that's for sure. And like he say's. They all have 20 friends who want to get out of the Phils.
The problem with Fastpistons idea is the dreaded "L" word. That is you'll meet a truely fantastic girl that you fall head over heals for. Be carefull! These girls will use you as an e-ticket to a green card. However a lot of them are very sincere and if your looking for something more permanent, well you can certainly do a lot worse then a sweet Pinay! Just don't be niave about these girls. Under that super sweet demeanor lurks the heart of a CPA! hehehehe.
To everyone who has made recent comments about JR.
I was introduced to JR thru this board and have used him a lot over the past couple years, perhaps now to a lesser extent. I like to get out on my own these days so i tend to use him when i want girls brought to my room, usually after a long flight. I have always recommended him to newbies simply because we all need a bit of a pointer in a new place, especially Manila..!! You should all remember that everyone you come in contact with in manila will try to make as much money from you as they can. Thats the name of the game. You are there for fun. For the girls, the Mamasans, the taxi drivers they work every day trying to make a living out of us. JR no doubt takes his cut from the places he takes us. most of the girls only get 500 pesos out of the 3000 we pay. But he is safe to travel around with and highly knowledgable about the city. Dont be too quick to write him off as just another taxi driver.
As far as LA Cafe is concerned you will certainly find all types there which is a great thing. It caters for all tastes. You wont find many movie stars there but how many of us look like Tom Cruise!
Have fun guys and lighten up a bit. Im just back from Phils and as usual have spent FAR too much money. Got to wait till June till i get back to LA Cafe. thats the place for me these days.
Keep up the great reports.
The Flying Scotsman
Han Bali,
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Seems like I touched a hot button with the T-word. Wow! I hadn't seen any. So was just asking. I'm aware that pick will vary at any spot, including LA Cafe'. I was just trying to give an objective report of what I saw. The truth is that the place is a serious zoo. I wouldn't be surprised if this isn't where the trannies hang out (like anyone would ever notice THAT at the LACafe). I can picture the conversation now:
Patron#1: There goes a 10; what a bod
Patron #2: Yeah, and from the look of her hot pants, she's happy to see you too!
Mottley Dude:
You're welcome in Davao any time. In fact, I just found three new places, two of which are really fun with fine-looking ladies. I agree with you about the Pinays. Under that gentle, loving demeanor beats the heart of a true predator who just wants to get the hell out of here. It's easy to fall in love but it's a lot harder to disentangle yourself.
GE
Used the services of JayR last December. You guys are right. He definitely takes a cut from what your paying the casa or bar, however, he makes up for that by making you feel safe. I wouldn't be so sure with the other taxi drivers. He definitely had an idea that i was carrying loads of money since i've been going to high class establishments most of the time, but, no matter what, he always sticks to business. He even covers my back when withdrawing money from ATM machines in high crime areas. I doubt if he would dare screw any of you mongers here since we are his "bread and butter." I will definitely use his services next time. Like what other mongers stated, expect to see some hesitation on his part if you ask him to go to LA Cafe.
Masterblaster
Are the girls you see on the website from the ktvphil clubs available to take back to the hotel? I know they are expensive but where else can you meet some high class girls?
If you are interested in girls with meat between their legs, you will be better off going to Thailand for Ladyboys. We happen to like real girls and have no interest in those things... If thats what you are into or have a curiosity, more power to ya.
Manila can be a whole at times but, you can have a good time if you plan things ahead. Getting totally stoned at the bars is not a good idea. You're just asking for trouble. Normally, the locals won't bother you (too much) but if you present a weakened state either physically and/or mentally, you are fair game!
LA Cafe can be a hit or miss situation. Most of the time, it's a hit. We all want great looking women but if you spend your time looking for 8's, 9's or 10s, you will definately miss out on some fun. You don't have to screw girls that are butt ugly, but a 5, 5 or 7 will take care of you just as well as any 8, 9, or 10. In my experience, the average girls seem more eager to please than the prettier ones. Some of them tend to be on the picky/bitchy side and expect more for their services.
[b]EDSA & LA Café[/b]
I had heard much mentioned about LA Café or Ricks Café, which it turns out is actually a bar and grill however I was excited at going down there and sampling the best that Manila has to offer. On my chosen night of going out on the town (again) I decided to check out two night spots, the first being EDSA complex then L.A Café. Anyone who is familiar to Manila will have no problems getting around however, if you are new to the city or just passing through like myself you will need exact direction to both locations.
My taxi driver to EDSA said its actually pronounced locally as ED-SA and not how I would have imagine E-D-S-A centre which is close to Pasig, the average taxi driver would struggle to locate the venue without proper directions. There is also for bearings the Manila Light Rail Network which has a station close by, however I didn’t get an opportunity to try this out, whilst I was there in Manila.
In side EDSA which is located on one level you will find seven bars, with many girls depending on your taste in music, you will hopefully find a bar, best suited to your choice. You will observe the sign outside which points out that no firearms are allowed inside, in case you have a dispute with your bill. But generally whether entering mall or any clubs you will find a high level of security present, in EDSA no cameras, so I had mine taken from me. I first went into Firehouse and on early arrival at around 9pm there was hardly any customers around and I was one of the only six or seven customers present in the club, and yes I counted, despite the club being fairly empty of customers and at least 30 girls working in there the girls did not make an effort to attract my attention. In fact from what I could see they were more interested in talking to themselves in small groups. I had one quick drink in there before quickly moving on to the next bar next door, I can’t recall the exact name but its theme was a space ship, once inside there was a group of five Americans making up the numbers and I spotted at least two or three girls that were 8s in my books. However, just as in Firehouse the girls were slow to come forward but the waiters were asking what drink you wanted to order. In this bar I didn’t stay long enough to buy a drink.
Moving on to bar three I entered the [b]Pitt Stop,[/b] which I can say had the most customers in, than the three other bars I had seen previously. In here I would have to say the girls had a bit more life in them not being as slow to come forward and I struck up a conversation with two pretty girls from the Visaya region of the Philippines, who it turns out were cousins. Drinks in these bar are around 60 - 80 pesos (U$1.07 -1.40) Unfortunately, because my mind was fixed on going to LA Café I did not get the bar fine prices but I am sure it was in the region of 2,000 pesos, however, I stand to be corrected.
I would not rule out EDSA because if you look wide and hard you can a few gems in there so its worth going to have a look because you can bar fine them once and then hook up with them later, once you have the cell phone number.
[b]Contacts:[/b]
EDSA Complex, Pasay City
[i]I am breaking up this post into two parts so LA Café is the next post.[/i]
[b]LA Café[/b]
Following my time spent in EDSA I then took a twenty minute taxi ride over to Ermita and LA Café.
[u][b]Please note:[/b][/u] it’s a myth that all taxi drivers know where is the LA Café and how to find it, it is best to have clear directions, given below in this post, because I asked several taxi drivers whenever I took a taxi, where is the LA Café and a majority of them did not know what I was talking about and yes I do speak English. Only two out of twelve knew of the place.
Upon my arrival at the LA Café my expectations were raised, further still, when one Japanese looking guy who was waiting for my taxi with a rather fit looking young lady. Upon entering the bar I took the seat nearest the door by the bar and was immediately set on by two big, [u]by Philippino standards,[/u] average by US standard girls, who were not my type at all. I made pleasant conversation and didn’t encourage them too much to keep my options open. Then following this some old dragon came and sat down next to me on my right hand side and was trying to make conversation, she was well in her 30’s if not early 40s, now despite me not even looking in her face when I gave my one word replies, she still sat there. I have a policy of not going with uglier girls than I can find at home or else I would not have travelled 8,000 odd miles to the Philippines for this.
Sitting sipping on my drink watching to see who was coming and going in LA Café at the main door I noticed that several other girls further along the bar were making eye contact with me, but these were not my type. Then this dragon who sitting next to me, who was now intensely watching me looking at the girls, asked me if she is my type, and I reply no you are not, then she said most of the girls in there are her friends and she can find me a nice girl. I reply that I am very fussy to start with anyway, so she would have a difficult task ahead of her, but she accepts the challenge saying that I should give her a tip for her troubles, I said if you can find me a decent girl I will tip you and then spent 60 Pesos (U$1.07) to buy her a drink. With her drink in hand she goes off to in search of this elusive girl, she has promised to find me, and I don’t hold out much hope. During this time I had now seen a number of other guys entering the bar, just like myself, they looked lost; one came and stood at the door for what seemed like 30 minutes not even taking a seat or talking to anyone, until he left. From what I could see the girls will come in and then quickly circulate themsleves to see who’s available so if you are a guy and want to attract attention its best not to have any dragons sitting next to you.
In my own opinion I did not see any girls in there that would rate the LA Café as having the best girls in Manila, no model types to be seen, yes, it certainly cheaper but for my money although relatively more expensive the clubs and bars of P.Burgos street, Makati had vastly superior girls. It wasn’t long before the dragon had returned with some young looking skinny girl that, just wasn’t my type. As I had explained to her, I have just come from EDSA where there were at least 10 girls in all of the clubs I had visited, who were far superior to what she had just shown me. Why would I now want girls that are worse than what I could have had earlier in the evening? Then the dragon said I was just saying that at that the girls were beautiful her, to which I replied then why are they alone then, surely the fact that they are looking for some must tell you something here?
Then I made a fatal mistake, when the dragon asked me to pick out a pretty girl, I had a look around and after about, what took some twenty minutes, I noticed one girl who was circulating herself, I said was OK, not beautiful just OK for sex, not a beauty, with that the dragon lady jumps out of her seat and claims the girl Joy is her friend, and invites her to sit with me. Anyway, fast forward, I get talking to Joy and try to strike up a conversation and now instead of thinking rationally, that I should go back to EDSA and get one of the girls I was talking to earlier, I decide to go with this girl I was with, Joy. So as we go to leave for my hotel the dragon reappears and claims I owe her a tip, so I give her 100 Pesos (U$1.78) to which she replies its not enough, somehow I don’t recall having a conversation discussing her rates. So as me and Joy walk out of the bar the dragon follows us and I say I am not giving her any more money, because we did not enter an agreement. Then Dragon lady says to Joy that she owes her the 100 Pesos (1.78), as we get into the taxi. Then some other scam artist comes over and wants a tip from me as well, for claiming he hailed me a taxi, so rather than start an argument at nearly 1am in the morning, I drop two pesos coins in his hand to which he looks at and says it not enough but at this time I had closed the taxi door and instructed the driver to go, leaving dragon woman and the scam artist on the side of the road.
In the taxi despite asking him if he had a metre, the driver had now switched it off, so I instruct him to turn on back the meter or else I will take another taxi, the driver is then trying to claim that it would be more expensive with a meter and I say fine, but let’s just keep the meter running because once you reach your destination they will then claim the fare is 200 or 300 pesos. The driver is pissed and says something in [i]tagalong[/i] to the girl Joy who responds. Joy then claims that she doesn’t know, this dragon women, who wants 100 Pesos from her and asks if she is my friend. Upon arrival to the hotel I make sure I give the driver the exact money because as I have said before you only tip for good service.
Its well past midnight and I am very hungry because I have not eaten all day and decided to grab a bite to eat I offer some food to Joy who orders a big plate of pasta, which she cannot eat, plus she takes two sips of the mango juice she also ordered, so as I have a policy of eating what I order I suggest she asks for a carry out and takes the remainder with her. In the room we wash and get down to business but to be honest Joy is fairly useless, the CBJ was terrible and sex unexceptional not what I was expecting from LA Café, however you live and learn. I thought I would be generous and give her 1000 Pesos (U$18) for her effort but she jumped up and asked for 1,500 Pesos (U$26), remember this is for short time of less than 40 minutes of action. And then claimed she had this bill to pay and that to pay for and a baby to look after and she was the only one working in her family. Plus she also wanted to go home and claimed she was going to come back in the morning, first thing (like I was really going to believe this) because if her baby wakes up and she was not there her child would be crying, where is my mummy. I know none of this was any of my business but I gave her an extra 500 Pesos (U$9) and be done with it although with hindsight considering the meal I had just brought her I realised that I had well overpaid her for her services. The Dusit’s security is tight and when Joy left the security called my room to ask if everything was alright as my guest was now leaving, I said yes all is fine.
So to sum up I was not overly impressed with the LA Café I felt there were too many scam artist in there and on the night I was there, a Thursday, the girls in my opinion were basic 6s and 7s nothing exceptional to get excited about, there may well have been one or two gems to be had, but at 10pm when I had arrived I can only speculate that they had all been snapped up, if in fact they were there at all. In my opinion I had seen better looking girls in the clubs of Makati in P Burgos Street and also in EDSA generally on a higher level; OK, they were more expensive but you have to weigh up what you want quantity or quality. This in my opinion the LA Café was lacking in quality not quantity, others might disagree, I don’t think I would put myself out to go back to LA Café when there are so many other better choices available to pick from in Manila. If I go back to Manila I might give it another shot but I certainly would not rush back to go there, I regret not bar fining a beauty from EDSA, but we live and learn.
[b]Contacts:[/b]
EDSA Complex, Pasay City
LA Café, Bar & Grill, 1429 M.H.Del Pilar, Ermita, Manila
Juniour
[i]Attached is the photo of the scam artist Joy[/i]
Juniour, can you explain to us all again just exactly how Joy "scammed" you eg did she promise you a BBBJ, did she promise you great sex, did she take more money than you had originally agreed upon etc, etc.
"Juniour, can you explain to us all again just exactly how Joy "scammed" you eg did she promise you a BBBJ, did she promise you great sex, did she take more money than you had originally agreed upon etc, etc?"
Jack, yes to all of the above....I should add I did not rush out of there, I spent 45 minutes talking to her before I left.
Juniour
I have been to the Philippines 3 times last year, and on each stay. I have stay for a month each. I stay around the Malate area, which is very close to Ermita, which is where LA Cafe is. I use to go there everyday.
Ermita/ Malate area is a haven for hustlers. Everyone that is inside/outside is trying to hustle you. Although, I know many of the girls, and some of the hustlers, they will still try to hustle you, if given the chance. They will cheat, steal, or rob you, if you don't watch it. Of course, there are some that won't. Even the locals know this, so why shouldn't you?
This come from the environment, that you are at. Like any "Red Light Districts," Whether, in your country, other countries, or the Philippines, It can be dangerous, if you are unaware of things. If you are, then you can go on with your business, but be cautious.
Some of the girls are nice, and some of them are not so nice. Like girls, everywhere. I like to get to the point of what they want, not what they are going to surprise me with, and not "up to you line." I know of some girls that are range from 300 to 3K pesos (ugly, old to good looking) in LA cafe. Whatever they can get away with. Just remember that you are in a third world country, and they don't have much. Some of their stories (babies, families, troubles, problems) are true, but most are not. Hey that is their problems, not your. You are trying to enjoy yourself, not fix someone problems. If you hook up with one of these girls, they will drain you, but not like your country, so that is cool, but if you look at Philipinos standard. It is high, so you are getting a bargain, since you don't live there, or not staying very long at all.
To me, Hookers are the world greatest con-artists, because, when you ask them, if they will do this, or that. They will tell you they do everything, or agree with you. When the time comes, they will tell you they don't do this, or that. Then you have to pay them to get rid of them. Of course, it is easier for me, b/c I stay longer there. For the short term travelers, you just want to get rid of the pest, and move on! This happens all over the world, even at your own country. So, it is not you. It happens to a lot of guys I know that travels.
This is my opinions, and you don't have to agree with it,
Spidey
P.S. I will agree with you that in the Philippines, if you know what you are doing. You can get free, or cheap pussy. If you are in Thailand, it doesn't work that way. Everything is about the Money!
And yes, I am like most of the long time travels. I have been hustle many times. It will not be the first, nor the last time!
Hey Juniour,
I just read your report over on the Makati board and I thought it couldnt get any worse. Then I read your report here and I see that it gets considerably worse. P1500 for an LA Cafe chick for 40 minutes, plus dinner? My god, you have set a new precedent. You can pay P500 for all night with no dinner. Imagine if she had stayed all night with you, maybe 8 hours. P13000 plus breakfast. Hehhehee Keep going boy, and you will single-handedly prop up the economy there.
Mikster
Hi vets,
Thanks for your recommendation here for me. I will be arriving in Manila on a Sunday afternoon and heading up to Baguio. My question is should I try for a quick massage and service there in Manila (Skyline or Airforce One) before heading up to Baguio that night or would I do better off stopping off at Angeles City for a quickie before continuing onward to Baguio that same night. I hear that not much is available in Baguio City and therefore thought I would get something on my way up. Any of you who are aware of some places where I can get a quickie thanks for your recommendation?
Do you recommend skyline or Airforce One?
Is there something comparable in AC or do I need to go to a bar. Are there some good short time hotels there?
Thanks for your help here.
Hank
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Spidey,
I am sure alot of idiots get hustled when they to to the RP or elsewhere, but there is really no excuse for it. I just made my rookie trip to AC, Manila/Makati and I had no problems at all. Yes, all kinds of people tried to hustle me. Big deal. Whatever happened to just telling people to fuck off or simply ignoring them? Thats all I did, and if someone touched me I gave them a gentle shove out of the way followed by a "I will kick your ass" stare. Im not all that big at 6-1 and 210, but over there I tower over just about everyone and alot heavier so you can use it to your advantage. I always walked around at night and if you look like you wont take shit, rarely will anyone give you shit. If a girl does not perform as she informed me, then out the door she goes with taxi fare. end of discussion. No arguing or pleading, just out. These guys who pay girls P1000 to P2000 just to get them out the door to avoid a hassle are pussies. Buck up men, act like a man over there and you will rule.
Hans Bali,
LA Cafe is not a cesspool. Its a very good place with alot of girls at unbelievable prices. P3000! Are you out of your mind? Its not a Victorias Secret hangout, but most nights you can score a 7 or 8 fairly easy and for P500, what is there to complain about? I like girls who are 7's at times. They don't get picked up as much and I have the best all around sex with 7's on my foreign trips. They work harder on average in my experience. Maybe you went on a bad night, or were intimidated by the outside or the crowd. See above post. Re-attach your balls and rule the place.
Later
Mikster
i have a feeling that juniour arrived with a chip on his shoulder. i lived in manila for 9 months and had maybe two cabbies not know l.a. cafe and none who didn't know the edsa complex. he is right, for those of you who haven't been, that it is pronounced "ed sa".
hank,
it kind of depends on how you are planning to get to baguio and when you're leaving. afternoon is a bad time in terms of traffic. killing a few hours in manila might be a good idea. if you want to stop by ac just long enough to releave some pressure head for santos street. the bars there have short time rooms. if you're travleing by bus, get one that goes to the dau station, not ac. from there it's an easy trike ride (offer 50 piso, settle for no more than 70-80) to the bars of ac.
han bali,
[blue][deleted by admin][/blue] have you ever been to the rp ? "i've heard manila" ? [blue][deleted by admin][/blue] this board is for first hand knowledge exchange. please take your hatespeech elsewhere.
fd
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Thanks Firedick for your suggestions here...to answer your question I get into Manila about 3 in the afternoon off the Thai flight. I am not sure how long it will take to clear customs/immigration but plan to get a taxi and maybe can be out of there by 4. Keeping in mind it is a Sunday afternoon, how bad will the traffic be? Is it better to stick around Manila for a couple of hours at that time and then head out or should I just go straight on up to AC since I will have an available taxi. I will then later head up to Baguio.
Thanks again for your advice. Please excuse the newbie questions but first time in Phil and was interested in knowing the best way to maximize my time.
Hank
The spirited (and I must say, increasingly nasty) defense of L.A. Café I’ve seen in the past few posts is a bit perplexing to me. Especially in light of contradictory posts on this site describing peoples’ experience. Consider the following evidence that should raise your suspicions about the L.A. Café; these are picked up from various posts, including mine:
1. L.A. Café is isolated in a dodgy, low rent part of town. One in which you can’t safely walk around.
2. The taxis seem to be in on the scam, and are the only way home from this remote area
3. It is frequented by clientele and hookers whose looks, attitude and health seem to be widely disparaged, even by the supporters of L.A. Café. The justification seems to be that you can get the hookers for 500P (though reports seem to indicate a wide variance)
4. Initial reports seemed to indicate that all these girls were university students who occasionally augment their income. But, as the discussion progressed, they became semi-pros, eventually evolving to the remnants of the professional community that – for health reasons, looks, age or something else – couldn’t get or keep a job in the EDSA, P. Burgos, or other ‘upscale’ areas.
5. Given that HIV prevalence is around 2% (WHO figures) in PI, and antibiotic resistant chlamydia and gonorrhea are running 10-15% in PI, the imputed self-selection of pros at the L.A. Café for health reasons is serious cause for concern.
I honestly don’t understand what is going on with the defenders of L.A. Café on this site; nor with the administrator for allowing these posts, but deleting mine when they grow too critical of the L.A. Café (though I do now understand that there is a policy with respect to the T-word; I apologize for that). I really didn’t start out to trash the L.A. Café. But I just can’t see any compelling reason to go to L.A. Café when you have EDSA, P. Burgos and malls like Robinson Place, where the girls are better looking, ultimately less expensive, less hassle, have better attitudes IMHO, and have health checks (at least in the first two). If you don’t want the barfines, then collect numbers and call later. Believe me, they are anxious to come, and often for free just to be with a Westerner. And you’ll be in a nicer safer part of town as well; in the comfort of your own hotel room.
Maybe it boils down to (as one poster noted) the fact that everyone in PI has a scam. Perhaps I’m just not in on whatever inside agreements exists with the L.A. Café.
[i]Whaoooo [/i] interesting comments Gentlemen with regards to the LA Café, but all I have posted is what I observed on the night I visited. It seems like I have touched a raw nerve with some of you guys on your favourite stomping ground.
True, maybe I did arrive in Manila with a chip on my shoulder but I did not see any beauty queens or students supplementing their incomes but a great deal of hardened pros who have been around the block for ages. And for my money the quality of girls was much superior in P Burgos & EDSA than what I observed in LA Café.
On pushing up the prices, I would have to say that as many of the club were frequented by Koreans and Japanese maybe you should first investigate what rates they are paying, but in terms of what I got for my money, because yes I do know how to negotiate, I have no regrets on the prices with the girls from P Burgos Street. However, I did get the contact numbers of the girls I encountered, as I have stated, so they wanted to pursue further contacts judging from the text messages and calls I was receiving in AC.
And finally rather than just posting these [i]so so claims[/i] of these all nighters girls for 500 pesos why don’t you post a proper report and share you information with us all, attach a photos of these so called 7s, 8s & 9s beauty queens from the LA Café and let the audience judge for themselves. Its not that I am particularly hard to please but could it be you are just easy to satisfy?
Gentlemen why are you so upset about my post The LA Café is all yours you are welcomed to hang out there with your 500 Pesos (all night) beauty queens. You have your preferences and I have mine.
Juniour
Junior,
Well said. Everyone whos been to Manila knows that Burgos is more expensive but has the best looking gals. If you have discriminating taste and can afford the higher rates, its certainly worth going there. I doubt if theres a single monger who gives a fcuk about the welfare of other mongers the moment his eyes are on some hot babe that he knows he can have quickly even if sustaining a little damage to his wallet. And your right, its mostly the Japs and Koreans who have the most effect on prices in that area.
If someone gets a blowjob at Burgos for the price of a ladydrink, is that the rule or the exception? I'd say someone got lucky otherwise there'd be long lines outside such a joint.
As far as the 500p rate for an all-nighter is concerned, I think someone mentioned that applies to freelancers who dont ask up front how much you will give them (but certainly expect a higher rate than a measly 500, unless she's under a 3 or 4), and then just handing them a 500 bill the next day whether she likes it or not. I think that is a bit of a rip off considering what they normally get from others which is based more on trust and the expectation that its not less than a thousand for an all-nighter.
If some can "spoil" the market by "overpaying", some can also spoil it by underpaying when they dont let the gal know of their measly budget upfront. That can not only result in possible arguments (or worse trouble depending on who the gal "knows"), but they will most likely never go out with you again as well as you developing a nasty reputation there. Could even result in the distrust of all mongers and demanding their money upfront from all.
Peace
1. L.A. Café is isolated in a dodgy, low rent part of town. One in which you can’t safely walk around.
>>Malate is part of the old Metro Manila. Malate is NOT about only LA Cafe. If you go to the A-circle, there is many locals guys/gals, who love to party there. Malate, also has some of the higher rents in Manila.
Del Pilar, is the old part of the original red light district, and all red light districts in the world, bring with them gangs, drugs, hookers, drinking, and gambling. They all go hand to hand. You may not recognize this, but it is presented.
2. The taxis seem to be in on the scam, and are the only way home from this remote area
>>No, but you can take the jeepney, but that is too extreme. (just joking!) Yes, the taxis will scam you if they can. Just tell the where, or ask them how much. From Malate to the airport is give, or take 100 pesos. That is how much it cost me to the airport. Where you are staying is closer to the airport. They are going to get over, like cabs, or taxis almost everywhere. LA Cafe is not in a remote area. It is one of the busiest place around (Malate).
3. It is frequented by clientele and hookers whose looks, attitude and health seem to be widely disparaged, even by the supporters of L.A. Café. The justification seems to be that you can get the hookers for 500P (though reports seem to indicate a wide variance)
>>That is not true. There is a good mix of people there, that is enjoying themselves by drinking, or drinking with the ladies, playing billards, listening to decent music from live band, watching television, watching, or talking to girls, that you may not have a chance in your country, or other places. I look at it as entertainment, and the Philipinas/Philipinos do a good job at it, from dancing, singing, or talking with you, and if you want sex. You can pay whatever you like, but there is a going rate. Some like to pay less, while some pay more, and other overpay. I go by what is the going rate in the place.
4. Initial reports seemed to indicate that all these girls were university students who occasionally augment their income. But, as the discussion progressed, they became semi-pros, eventually evolving to the remnants of the professional community that – for health reasons, looks, age or something else – couldn’t get or keep a job in the EDSA, P. Burgos, or other ‘upscale’ areas.
>>Where do you expect from a bunch of freelancers? Some will do, and some will not do, and some are just.......Well,....Maybe??? This is place for the freelancers to hang out, so everyone from Tom, Dick, and Harry, to Mary will be there. You don't want to pick up the one on the street, because they are either banned, or don't have the money to go in there to buy a drink to stay. The professional, are the older girls, who been around. They really know how to squeeze you for the money, that is experiences. Try Friday, and Saturday, they are the best days. Everyone comes out those days, and it is really crowded there, almost like Themae in Bangkok. Sometime, all walks of life will go there.
5. Given that HIV prevalence is around 2% (WHO figures) in PI, and antibiotic resistant chlamydia and gonorrhea are running 10-15% in PI, the imputed self-selection of pros at the L.A. Café for health reasons is serious cause for concern.
>>Get a real girlfriend, or a regular local girl, who is not in the sex industry, and you will have no problem! Hey, this is the risk is you play wrong. It doesn't matter where you are!
I understand your point of views. Obvious, you like the strip clubs better than the bars. LA cafe is just a bar that attract people there. depending on what you do. That choice is your to choose what to do. I know places that are better than ESDA complexs too. They will blow those girls away in ESDA. Ask some of the locals here. They will tell you. You have to know where to go, like your hometown to enjoy yourself. Yes, Manila is a bit, or a rough place to be, but what do you expect from a third world country. Hey, i though it is Pussy that you are after, that is why you are here.
JP2U,
You make the same mistake most guys make. You, and others dont seem to grasp the differences in relative terms of money between here and there. Even in a scenario where a girl only gets picked up twice a week on average at P1000 per pop that is close to $150 per month. That does not include the drinks men buy for here, breakfast and dinners, tips, staying in nice hotels with all the niceties that entails, etc. Most of the time they dont have to work very long and their lives are actually upgraded to a degree. They could also have some kind of job during the day to supplement. This is not a bad living and with tips they actually make more than what I quoted above. Many may think that amount of money is nothing, but in the RP is it something. Its not our responsibility to move them to the upper class and I think most guys take care of the girls fairly well with all the extras involved. If your nice to the girls and get them hot, they actually like the sex with some guys as well so its not like its all just for you. There is a reason the average payments are what they are and when guys go over with shit for brains and pay exhorbitant rates over and above it screws everyone in the future. P. Burgos prices will come down at some point, I predict. When I was there, not too many guys hanging out but alot of girls. But, if Juniour and Steve Naive go then that should keep them in business for awhile.
Its not about being cheap, its about being reasonable and paying what the service is worth. Just because you have money doesnt mean you have to throw it away.
Take it easy
Mikster
Han Bali,
Nice post. I tend to agree with Spideys rebutals, but I admire your turn around of tone. My apologies for getting "nasty".
Junuior, I hope I didn't offend you as well.
Now, that said, I will be in Mexico for 10 days of dirt biking. I just don't want anyone to think I am "taking my ball and going home".
Party on fellow mongers ! Overpayers and Cheap Charlies alike. We're on the same team.
FD
Hank Stram,
Sorry, I got distracted.
You picked the right day. Sunday traffic is the lightest. Thus, I would only hang around Manila if I wished to sample some of the spots there.
Customs/immigration will depend entirely on the numbers in front of you. The process itself is pretty painless.
Good trip.
FD
I've been to LA Cafe many, many times as well as EDSA and P Burgos st many times as well. I won't repeat everything that's been said but there is serious mis-information going around about the area of Ermita and Malate. It is a totally safe and upscale (not compared to Makati, but compared to 95% of the rest of Manila) area. I always stay in the area, walk around at 2 and 3 in the morning, and never ever felt unsafe. I've lived in the Philippines for 2 years, so I know what is safe and what is not. Lots of mid priced hotels in the area, lots of tourists, lots of young locals out for a good time. I always go there at least once a day when I'm in Manilla. I just walk from my hotel and check it out. Sometimes lots of old hags, sometimes a young babe looking to make some money on the side. It just depends when you go.
My apologies for anyone I might have offended in my prior posts. I was more interested in entertaining with my posts than offending (though I more or less wrote my posts as a stream of consciousness). You’ll just have to chalk my assessments up to matters of personal taste.
You know, I was seriously concerned that I was being conned – that some of LA Café’s defenders had an interest – financial or otherwise – in it’s operation, and were using this board to promote the place. I’m guessing from the responses that this is not the case. Consequently, the attraction of the place is that much more perplexing to me. I gather from the responses that some people (perhaps a lot judging from my one trip there, since it was packed) truly enjoy the place. Vive la difference (so to speak).
If members of this forum might question my ability to negotiate ‘third-world’ countries, please note that my home is Hong Kong (I’ve lived here for over a decade and am settled) and my job involves extensive travel in Asia and the Middle East. I’d say I’ve spent the most time in China (Beijing, Shanghai, Dongguan, all good to great, but technically one of the last of two remaining second-world countries), Bangkok (a classic, you gotta love it), Jakarta and K.L. (can be more fund that Bangkok), Taipei, Seoul (no fun), Tokyo (expensive fun, first-world).
I’d not had the opportunity before to visit Manila (no business reason), which is why this was my first trip there. I’d say in terms of other cities I’ve visited, it is closest in appearance to Jakarta. But in Jakarta, the girls are more innocent, prettier (and I might add cheaper) than in PI. Jakarta has several LA Café type bars, but generally bigger. For me, the Stadium and Blok M bars (D's Place, Everest, TopGun and Bali Hai) are comparable, but much nicer for company and girls; LT rate around 400k rupiah ($45); Tanamour's and JJ’s for bottom feeding, but again too rough for me.
The real difference between Jakarta and Manila seems to me security; I’m more comfortable walking around Jakarta (no guns) whereas Manila is sinister and everyone seems to have an angle. I’ve been in rough situations (from barroom threats to a KTV ‘enforcer’ shaking me down once in Beijing) and so far have been able to talk my way out of bodily harm. I would have no problem negotiating an argument with any of the blokes I saw in the LA Café.
Perhaps, in my mind, the LA Café area is closest in character to Mexico. I spent four months in Cuernavaca, and thought the place similarly sinister, it is also surrounded by some of the same natural beauty as the PI countryside. In Cuernavaca I fell asleep each night with gunfire in the background, rival gangs shooting it out. Emelio Zapata’s statue adorned the central square. Firedick, I gather since you will be biking in Mexico, that you find it similarly attractive to the PI. Any differences we have may seriously be a matter of taste.
Even with the added information from this board, I’d be disinclined to visit LA Café again. I am truly and deeply perplexed how anyone could find it inviting or the girls in it attractive. I found it depressing and menacing and I found the neighborhood creepy – my insecurity augmented by the corrupt taxis that have you at their mercy. I haven’t come across anything similar elsewhere in Asia (though I’ve come close).
And the enticement of 500P beauty queens? I understand that we all may overstate and oversell sometimes; it’s human nature. Most girls I saw (and again, it may have been an off night) were ugly and pretty disgusting. Maybe it was the night I came – despite LA Café being packed and thus there being potential wide selection, to my eyes it was a dismal, sinister, low rent freak show. There is simply no reason to suffer the low quality and high risk (disease, guns, theft) when you could spend the time at Robinson Place, or when the P.Burgos and EDSA girls can be had for free if you talk them up and get their numbers in advance; they like being with Westerners. The opportunities are there for everyone. Again, it’s all a matter of personal taste.
[b]Air Force One [/b]
One thing that I really liked and recommend you simply must try out in Manila is Air Force One, it is expensive, especially for you [i] cheap charlie’s who know who you are [/i] but it’s worth at least one visit when you are in Manila. I came to learn of Air Force One in an earlier post and thought I would make time in between going to Manila and Angeles City to pass by and I do not regret my visit.
This is a very upmarket massage parlour and Karaoke lounge that is within a stones throw from the international airport and I would suggest after a long flight or before you depart you build in some time to stop here. Its modelled on an airport type service, so the comments with be along the lines: [i]“are you ready for your flight sir?”[/i] inside there are no complaints about the facilities a great deal of black marble and smoked mirrors and its actually a very large facility. The first class room has a Jacuzzi for two or three people at a squeeze, and steam room inside the room plus a complimentary fruit bowl inside, but make sure the girls don’t eat out all the fruit before you get a chance.
OK the overall services are not so different for any other massage parlour but it does have some of the best looking girls you are likely to find in the Philippines and as suggested previous by an earlier poster, you should try the two girl option. This is the place to come if you are confused and cannot tell the difference between a girl who is a 4 or 8. I tried two girl package, twin, one a mezzanine looking girl, the other a darker girl from somewhere in Mindanao who came highly recommended by the staff; after picking them from behind a glass window, [i]fish bowl[/i] where all the girls were sitting with numbers. I began with traditional style massage with oils, which was good, by the two girls both with fit bodies and then followed by the girls who have a good wash then once oiled up they will proceed to rub their bodies over yours for a short while until you tell them you are ready.
The girls will ask for a fee before they commence with the deed but I started off at 1,000 pesos (U$18) and settled on 1,800 (U$32) so it was up to them if they did a good job.
Prices for the three classes are as follows:
[b]Economy Class[/b]
[u]Promo Hour[/u] [u]Regular Hour[/u]
[i]75 Minutes[/i]
Regular Massage 1,000.00 1,300.00
Double Time 1,600.00 2,200.00
Twin 1,400.00 1,800.00
[b]Business Class[/b]
[i]90 Minutes[/i]
Regular Massage 1,800.00 2,300.00
Double Time 3,000.00 3,700.00
Twin 2,500.00 3,200.00
[b]First Class[/b]
[i]90 Minutes[/i]
Regular Massage 2,600.00 3,300.00
Double Time 4,300.00 5,700.00
Twin 3,600.00 4,300.00
[b]Directions:[/b] Take a taxi to Sucat Road, just past the entrance of NAIA, when you pass Casino Filipino you are getting close, look out for, dear I say it, McDonalds golden arch, and its about 50 metres before you get there, head for the HSBC ATM and you will see a big sign for Air Force One and I have enclosed a photo below.
Details: Flight 168 Health Spa, 888 Ninoy Aquino Avenue, Paraòaque City tel: 820 7249 / 820 7250 / 820 7244 / 512 9705
e-mail:airforce1_ktv@hotmail.com
[i]This gets a five star rating from me![/i]
Juniour
More from Air Force One
And finally more from Air Force One
Junior:
What is the difference between the three class you mentioned.
Junior,
Sorry if this is the wrong post here but you have a good line going here. Are you aware of something of the calibre of Airforce one in Angeles City or its surrounding areas? Even Baguio?
Thanks
Hank
Han Bali,
Honestly, I dont know what in the world you are talking about in your tales of horror from LA Cafe. Sinister? Menacing? Corrupt taxis? Please! Dude, I dont know what really happened to you there but it must have been something your not telling us. I am not slamming you, I am just completely perplexed. Its like you are describing some other place and are confused about where you were. Taxis are the easiest thing in the world. My God man, tell the driver to turn on the meter. If he wont do it, go to another taxi. What could be easier than that. Sinister? You scare easy or something dude, despite your trips around the world. Menacing? The most menacing thing in that bar was my hard cock. I scored some hot chicks in that bar, equal to what Juniour showed us in the photos from AC. Dont know where you were looking, or maybe it was the worst night in LA Cafe history.
Good luck to you next time.
Juniour
You actually got me hot describing Air Force One. I want those two broads rubbing their oily bodies all over me. Missed that place when I was there. Wont miss it the next time.
Later
Mikster
Guys Guys Guys!
Whats going on here. this is supposed to be an information board! You can either accept the information and take it on board or ignore it and do your own thing. Everyone is different and will have their own expectations, experiences and sometimes problems. LA cafe seems to be stirring things up so I thought I'd post a pic of a 20 yr old chinita I picked up there three weeks ago. There were quite a few others, including a waitress there who was gorgeous but I promised not to post her pic.
The reports here are for newbies to help them make their own minds up but you will only have your own experiences. I had a text from JR yesterday thanking me for the business he is getting from this board. Remember he is putting three kids thru school!
Keep up the great reports guys. Its certainly been entertaining reading over the past few days ! :)
The Flying Scotsman
Juniour,
Air Force One is Tops even with their above average prices but service is great especially the two-girl package. Always glad to make full use of the large bed. Never knew the lot could be that empty. I only go in the evenings and take a cab.
Since my Monday started bad, all this talk about AF1 makes me want to catch a plane back to Manila and take a short cab ride over from the airport.
You're taking my words out of context, Mikster. The bottom line is that I am unimpressed with LA Cafe. Given the many options available in Manila at very affordable prices, I can see no reason for going to LA Cafe, even if, a big IF, it gets much better than I saw. Given the diverse opinions voiced about it on this board, I think it's way more trouble than it's worth.
[b]Desert[/b]
The difference in the price relates to the quality of the rooms, for the first class price you get a larger room with Jacuzzi and Steam room inside, sorry I didn’t have an opportunity to have a look in the other rooms, business or economy the reason being that on the day I visited I was actually flying out of the country and therefore this was part of my pre-flight preparation. Also, the economy has a different waiting lounge, to that of the first & business, as does every other airport in the world, so if you splash out on the first class option you won't have to rub shoulders with the [i]riff raff[/i] in economy.
[b]Hank Stram[/b]
Sorry, I couldn’t find anything similar to Air Force One in AC, but give it time; I am sure some entrepreneur will be looking at AC and thinking of offering a bit more quality to those of us that seek it against the regular quantity.
The only other problem with AC is Taxis are hard to find around Field Ave, therfore you have to rely on Jeepneys or tricycles to get around. But you can find some taxis at the entrance to Clarks Field; but even this makes it slightly difficult to move around the city after dark. However, car and motorcycle hire is relatively cheap is you’re the adventurous type – please post a report.
[b]Pinay Lover[/b]
As my flight wasn’t until the late evening and I had just travelled down from AC all hot and sticky, on a coach, there was only one way to relax before a long night flight and that was AF1, so the photo was taken at around 5pm on a Sunday.
I look forward to reading some of your future post.
Juniour
Hi Guys,
Well, I'll be heading back to the Philippines April 1st to the 3rd for a quick transit before heading off home. So if you want to have a beer in Manila drop me a PM.
I've been reading through the various posts about LA Cafe and thought I would make my own comments about it. I think my standards are relatively high, I am 26 and I am Asian so I honestly believe that I can rate Asian woman better than a non-Asian. I know every guy has his own tastes and this has been debated countless times but sometimes you non-Asian guys do not know what a good looking Asian girl is. Just my opinion, no insult intended.
I have been to LA Cafe about 5 times during my many trips to the Philippines. I usually stay at the City Garden Hotel, which is just a 5 minute walk from LA Cafe. Each time, LA Cafe has been a disappointment in terms of how the girls look. There are no knockouts there, maybe a couple of okay girls at best. Rating them okay is being genrous too. The one time I saw a decent girl there was the waitress who was getting me my drinks. Each time I went at various times of the night, I did not see a good selection. Of course you might be lucky and find a diamond in the rough but YMMV. Most of the time in LA Cafe I see older white guys trying their luck. I can honestly say the quality of looks at Edsa and any Casa, is by far greater than LA Cafe.
Mook
Fellas,
I'm with Dragon Slayer on this one, pay whatever you want. The only reason I bother with my rebuttals is for the newbies. Before my trip, reading this board probably saved me a ton of money that I otherwise would have blown. I like to let newbies know that they dont have to go down that road and they can pay a reasonable price and have a good time. Not all the guys here have alot of money and they want to be able to experience this stuff that alot of us take for granted. There is nothing wrong with a guy who doesnt make big bucks saving his money and going to paradise. Some guys here sound like elitists and think that if you cant pay P3000 for a short time you have no business going at all. That is rubbish. AC is one of the great all time good deals in the history of mongering and affordable for just about anyone. LA Cafe as well. I dont expect a 9 or 10 in LA Cafe for P500, but that is not a bad price for a girl who isnt going home with anyone else if I dont take her. This is NOT a charity. The regular girls that I met in Manila made an average of P3000 per month for their jobs. Most guys arent going to pay only P500 because they usually negotiate beforehand, a mistake in my opinion. It takes away from the GFE. Thats the great thing about LA Cafe. If you do it right, its like picking up a regular girl, even if you have to pretend a little. Most guys dont understand how much money P500 is to a filipina, they have no concept. Being from affluent countries, we tend to think that we have to treat filipinas the same way westernized women think they should be treated. Namely, having vast amounts of money spent on them because they think they deserve it for having sex with you and giving you the pleasure of their company. They are the real *****s of the world.
Anyway, the newbies can read and make up their own minds about what to do when they go. Its good to hear both sides.....
Mikster
Mookman:
As you say, each man has his own taste. I don't think that the range of looks in either Edsa or P. Burgos is superior to that found on an average night in LA Cafe. The difference is that in the latter, there are a lot more women through whom to weed while looking for one who appeals to you. The other difference, of course, is that you do not have to expend a lot of money on ladies drinks while doing so. Perhaps my standards are not as high as yours, or perhaps our tastes merely differ, but I will be back in Manila tomorrow and back at the LA Cafe by 10 tomorrow night.
GE
Here is some news from Manila, have been working here for the past few months after a two year absence. I see there are many posts to this forum, so I’ll try not to duplicate too much.
The Philippines is going through a severe economic slump right now, which creates both opportunities and difficulties for expats. On the plus side, the traditional night spots are virtually devoid of many customers and you can have your pick of the girls; on the con side the mamasans and more pushy than ever and so many of the really attractive girls have left the country for better opportunities abroad. But, there are diamonds in the rough, especially in the 17 to 19 year old group; if you look hard and discriminating.
I think the EDSA complex should be avoided, never seen so many ugly girls in one place. I walked out of two bars where I was the only customer and the mamasan kept pushing dogs on me relentlessly. Finally found an OK girl at the Cotton Club; nothing special but worth a few hours in the hotel. Burgos and QC are fine, still on the expensive side but many very young girls to choose from. I have noticed that many clubs will now negotiate bar fines, so don’t accept the first offer. Watch out for the old bait-and-switch: beautiful girls on stage to look at, while the mamasan pushes the ugly ones to buy drinks for and take home. If you don’t like what you see, move on, there are plenty of clubs to choose from.
I picked up a real jewel at one of the smaller clubs on Roxas, Visions I think: a 5 foot six inch doll, 45kg, and 17 years old stunningly beautiful: only cost me 1,000PhP for the bar fine and the same for the girl, well worth it. I kept her three days. But then again, she was the only one in the whole club worth looking at.
Anyway, enjoy!
mikster
if i can add my two cents worth here, i don’t know why you are so hung up on the[b] la café, [/b] please tell us do you have shares in this place? fine, if you want to hang out there but for the rest of us we will choose to go to places that in our opinion offers a better selection of girls. in fact it would be better for you to keep la café as your favourite hang out and we will go elsewhere.
on the subject of [b]“elitist”[/b] i have been coming to the philippines since 1989 and i have spent a majority of my time in cebu and mindanoa and unlike many of you i have actually lived in the homes of philippinos, some of whom basically have a two room hut with two electric bulbs, and no running water in them. so i am perfectly aware of the cost of living in the philippines but i think to an extent you have the view that you want to exploit the people. you travel half way around the world to bang a couple of old hooker and think that by giving her 500 pesos in the morning is actually helping the economy. let me assure you, i am not rich but i also believe in getting value for money and i certainly don’t want to pay more that i should for any service, but on the other side of the coin, i see no reason why if i get a good service that i shouldn’t pay for it. on my recent twenty odd day visit, i had budgeted “x” amount to spent when i left the philippines i had under spent about u$700 but yet i had done everything i had wanted and more.
if a girl provides me with a very good service, bbbj and the lot and i give her 3,000 pesos i can’t see what the problem is with this and why you were so excited that i had overpaid. please tell me what the japanese and koreans are paying for a similar service and i can assure you that its not 3000 pesos or 500 pesos, that you claim to pay.
in relative terms 3000 pesos (u$54) is still only 2,000 thai baht (u$50) the price you might get for a so so girl in thailand for short or long time, and in the us you would be lucky to find some crack head hooker to suck your dick for that, without having them trying to rob you in the process. when i posted my report i always deal with [b]fact not fantasy[/b] if something bad happened i say it; isn’t this all about sharing information? some guys who post, not just on this board but in several others, pay the girls far higher than what they claim but yet, so as not to loose face among their peers claim they only paid a fraction of the price for a higher standard of girl for all night service – [i]yes right.[/i]
on balanced and fair posting, please let’s keep a real here but when someone claims that the most beautiful girls to be found in manila, among the odd student supplementing their income is in la café - this is clearly not true. in fact after my visit to the la café i had to look up in a dictionary what the actual definition of [i]“beautiful”[/i] was in case i was missing something. throughout my visit of bangkok and the philippines i always carried my camera to get photos, many of which i have posted, but on my visit to the la café i did not take one photo because there was nothing there worthy in my opinion.
i suggest if you want to see what a beautiful woman is like, as you obviously confused, you take a visit to rio, brazil and visit one of the termas [i]centaurus[/i] without a doubt you will see beautiful women of all shapes and sizes and colours available.
what i and others would really appreciate is if you posted about your experience and not your opinions, if a man posts his experience and is honest enough to tell the truth you have no right to criticise someone for being honest as is the case of steve naieve.
mikster, if you really want to sell us la café, buy yourself a digital camera, post a good report submit the photos, let the audience decide. you remind me of this same guy who used to post on the fortaleza board who claimed this one club had the most beautiful women in brazil available for next to nothing, when i went there all i found were a few hardened pros and many girls, dangerously **** looking, all looking for twice the amount of what this guy "claimed" the going rate was. then you have others who claim to frequent these fictional clubs filled with hot beauties from all over the country, that is so secret they can't tell you where they are - why? because they don't exist. so please do us all a favour, just keep it real, you can keep the tall stories for your bar room buddies back home, but on this board let’s just concentrate with the truth, good or bad.
juniour
[b]ps[/b][i] can i just add something written by someone earlier on this year:
"yes, it was my rookie trip and no doubt i made some mistakes. we were all rookies at one time and you have to start somewhere. thanks to this board, i feel that i limited my mistakes and did not overpay except for one or maybe two times when i was over served." - mikster (02/29/04)[/i]
GoodEnough,
I agree with you. Yes, there is more selection at Edsa or at a Casa so there will be more girls to someone's liking. To each his own but I just wanted to give my opinion on the place, that's it.
In terms of buying ladies drinks, I don't spend much money on those, I pretty much just browse on who I want and chat her up real quick and if I like her, barfine her. Why waste money for no reason.
Mook
Juniour,
Take it easy big fella, no need for a temper tantrum. The post was not intended for you, but the board as a whole. There must have been alot of truth in it to get you so hot under the collar. Perhaps you need to read my post again because you certainly came to conclusions that you made up on your own.
No, I dont own shares in LA Cafe, but you obviously have the minority opinion of the place. READ Juniour. I said I dont expect to get a 9 or 10 there, so how can I be getting the most beautiful girls in LA Cafe? I also never paid P3000 for a 40 minute trick including dinner. Is that what you were referring to when you lectured me on getting value for your money? Sorry I cant live up to your standards. hehehe
Please point out where I said the most beautiful girls are found in LA Cafe. If you cant, then admit you are a liar.
So I would need to go to Rio to find a beautiful girl. You dont think much of the filipinas do you?
One more point, for a guy claiming to have lived in the RP for some time, you appear to not have learned much about the demographics. You make the outrageously ridiculous assertion that 7 girls are being born to every boy. The ratio of men to women in the RP is right at 50-50. Is this what you meant when you said you deal with fact, not fantasy? Tell us another one of your facts.
I posted my trip reports already so wrong again Juniour.
Get your facts straight before you come out to play with the big boys.
BTW, stay away from the riff raff in coach. (Your terminology)
Mikster
Hey Juniour,
BTW big fella, I am sure you know the barfine in AC is P1000. That price includes the girl for the night and she gets half of it. ALOT of people fly halfway around the world to bang a girl for P500 my friend so your dissing the majority of people who go to the RP because most take a trip to AC. Its not different than paying P500 at LA Cafe. If you read my accounts (which obviously you did not because you told me to post a trip report, then quoted one of my trip reports, figure that out) you would also note that if the girl made a fuss I would give her a bit more. One night I did a repeater and gave her P1000. I know thats chump change in your book, you pay that much for 5 minutes but we cant all keep up with your generosity.
Dude, I read my recent post again and I cant figure out what your problem with it is. Never mentioned your name a single time. If you want to keep things civil, then dont call me out with misinformation and outright lies. Ok?
I'm done with you. Dont go back to AC, you wouldnt want to exploit those poor girls at P500 per. You're above that.
Mikster
Fellas,
According to the CIA world factbook, there are approximately 1.05 males born to every female. The boys outnumber the girls in the phillipines by about a half million from 0-14 years of age. The girls outnmumber the boys by a slightly lesser amount from 15-25 years of age. Dont believe the hype that guys like to give that says there are 7 women to every guy in a country, its simply untrue. It boggles the mind how someone could actually believe this, and then post it as fact.
I used to travel to South American quite a bit, mostly to Peru and Colombia, one trip to Sao Paolo and a few days in Rio. The hottest chicks in the RP stack up quite nicely against anything I saw down there and much sweeter as well, in my opinion. To each his own.
Mikster
Concerning 7 girls to one boy in philippines. I guess Junior get it from the AIR.
But the fact are if you going around you will see much more girls compareing to boys. Go to a mall like SM it is a que in the side for the girls the boy side are empty.
Mookman:
I appreciate your response, and I agree with it. However, I do not ever pay bar fines, which may be why I prefer places like LA Cafe. I am also finding that I tend to "shop" a lot less the more I'm here because I've managed to maintain a few friendships simultaneously, so I'm not paying (at least directly) for the sex.
GE
Juniour:
I don't mean to belabor this or to get on your case, but I think that the quality available at LA (or pretty much anywhere else I've been here) depends strictly on the night and your time of arrival. Thus, it's more a matter of chance than location. As to the prices you pay, I think it's up to you and no one else's business. I'm sure that the the girls who get the PhP3,000 are appreciative and that, for the most part, the money really does go to support their families. In my opinion, there's no need to get defsensive about it.
Visit to Manila, March 14th 2004
I called JR, (phone previously listed) and he was clear and understood that I wanted a girl for the night.
He said he would turn up at my room at 7: 00pm with two girls. Asked for 25-35, average to slim and not too dumb.
They arrived on time, and jr arrived a few minutes later. I choose the slightly older one as I wanted to have dinner first and don't like the obvious stares from westerners that I am just another dirty old man with a young girl.
Had a great time and was really impressed with the affection and the sex was great to. In the morning she wanted to wash me and she did, its very appealing.
Had meetings that day but she came back that night. We had dinner again and that evening the emotions got deeper and I can understand why people do fall in love. She said I was kind and thoughtful. Perhaps there is a plus being older!
After dinner we went to the bar with live music. There was a guy on his own, but one waitress sat with him and a few minutes later they left together. Talk about Asian hospitality!
Cost was 4,000 peso and jr does run a big and slick operation.
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GoodEnough,
Yeah, me too. I have a couple of steady girls I meet up with now. But I do like to roam around so once in awhile I ask to go to a Casa or Edsa because once in awhile you find a diamond in the crap.
Mook
Mikster,
Its quite interesting to see your recent last three posts, for the benefit of all those people who are not interested in reading them, why didn’t you put this into one post? Not everyone wants to read about, whatever you were going on about.
But once again, do us all a favour and when you visit the Philippines again why don’t you post a report, buy yourself a digital camera and include the photos, is this really so difficult?
Juniour
Reading the past few posts, I have to conclude that Mikster has lost credibility and has stepped over the line into irresponsible posting. Completely.
Junior has, as he has observed, provided objective reports, and pictures' His attitude has been one of letting the reader decide.
Mikster's response has in contrast been hectoring and to some extent dissembling, taking words out of context, and generally offering demeaning and unconstructive insults., eg."Get your facts straight before you come out to play with the big boys. BTW, stay away from the riff raff in coach."
Tell me, honestly. What good does this sort of irresponsible posting do anyone?
Goodenough,
I agree with you about LA Cafe. I have basically said the same thing several times. You wont find hot girls there every night, its very much a hit or miss place depending on each individuals standards and what they are looking for. Sometimes you can go in early and find plenty of hot chicks, but the guy who shows up two hours later may find very little. What is hot is also very much up to the individual. One asian guy wrote a post saying we, as westerners, dont really know what is a good looking asian girl. Well, I say whatever makes me hot is what is good looking to me. On my trip to Manila and AC last February, I didnt always go for the hottest girls. Sometimes a girl who is a 6 or 7 does it for you for whatever reason. Maybe its a certain slutty look that you like, or maybe she looks like she will fuck you to death or maybe she has gigantic tits. Whatever, it doesnt matter as long as the guy paying is happy. All I know is that I banged two very hot chicks from LA Cafe and it didnt take me very long to find them. I saw better on P. Burgos and AC, but its all relevant to what a guy wants and is looking for.
Later
Mikster
Han Bali,
I have tried to be done with this juniour character, I even said so. When he lies/gives false information I think I have the right to set the record straight. If you want to see over the line I could post an email he sent to me, but that WOULD be over the line.
If you think my posts are over the line, then you obviously havent read much of the archives on this and various other boards. You cant be that PC dude. I think you have chosen sides since me and another guy were making light of your fun in Manila. Maybe we can all try not to take things so personally from now on. I, for one, would like to be done with this starting now.
Pay what you want. Go where you want. But if we make outrageous/false statements then consider someone will probably call us on it. That includes me.
Later
Mikster
Not really, Mikster.
The LA Cafe thread has grown a bit silly, no doubt. But it keeps being extended because your statements about the LA Cafe are clearly misleading.
I offered my own observations in an early post. You're flattering yourself if you think your rebuttals were witty; honestly, accusations of 'hatespeak' and 'riffraff' along with condescensions like 'get some balls' are pedestrian and heavyhanded. If that is as witty as you get, why should I ever be offended at all by them.
The problem as I see it is that you've changed your story several times on the LA Cafe, and people like Juniour feel compelled to set the record straight.
I would tend to agree that you probably have some financial interest in the place. I mean, just look at the incentives (given what I can surmize of your values from prior postings). If you actually went to LA Cafe to partake of the talent, then you wouldn't want others to know so there would be more left for you.
Instead, you've fallen into a mean-spirited and somewhat desperate hectoring of anyone who seems to want to present a balanced report on LA Cafe. I experienced the place myself on a busy night, and it was mainly seedy old guys hoping to score with some of the rougher Manila trade. Yuch! Not anything I would recommend to my friends.
I don't think that you can responsibly claim the moral high ground in idle assertion that you are providing newbies with unbiased information. Your 'concern' seems a bit hollow and self-serving. Everything points to you having some sort of financial interest in the LA Cafe.
Okay guys,
To ease this, "LA cafe sucks! No it doesn't!" debate, I have a SIMPLE question about the airport. Do the domestic or international airport have a overnight baggage service?
If so, how much?
Okay, that's ALL I need to know, but continue the debate :).
Han Bali,
The riff raff comment was made my you know who in one of his latter posts on how to have a successful trip to the RP. I think its in the AC area. I noted that the comment was his terminology, but you have conveniently glazed over that fact which I pointed out to you in a private email. I could care less who goes to LA Cafe, but I also want to let newbies know thats its a place they can go rather than the complexes, brothels, or street. I have been absolutely consistent about my opinion of the place. Never said the best was there and admitted I never got a 9 or 10 there either. If you take the time to read everything and not conveniently forget what you dont want to remember then you would present a more balanced post.
Its water under the bridge. Im finished with you and him. The board can decide what they want to do without us engaging more, and decide who is more credible. No hard feelings guy. Take care.
Mikster
Guys! This LA cafe thread really is making entertaining reading!
can someone please explain to me what a 9 or 10 is? Or any number preceding? Come on guys, evryone has there own ideas about what a beautiful girl is. Why not just post the reports and let everyone make up their own minds. personally although i often promote JR and his girls from the casas, i think it is a great way for people to find their way around safely. now however i like LA cafe and contrary to what HAN BALI thinks. (quote : and it was mainly seedy old guys hoping to score with some of the rougher Manila trade. Yuch!) i must totally disagree. I have spent many evenings in LA and have met a lot of guys younger than me(im 40) but again, who cares. The girls are fun, the staff are friendly(and available) and its safe, whatever some guys have been posting.
Guys, live and let live, not everyone likes to eat balut.! Doesnt mean it tastes bad.:)
The Flying Scotsman
What is the point? Manila is a very entertaining city. This is where everyone comes to make money. I love the music in Manila. It is a fun place to be, if you know where to go.
Let look at LA Cafe. There is live music, maybe not the best, but Jackie trys to put some good bands there. There are some real good pool players there, and there is a certain time they come to play. At times, there are some good looking women there, but not much, but some. One can talk, or not talk to the women there, any women. Just take YOUR pick!! Where could you really do this in your country? C'mon, guys. You know this is true.
Combine it all, and you have good, to great entertainment, or time, and if you get a little something, Hey, then that is great! It doesn't matter, if the guys, are young, or old. You're there to entertain yourselfs. Let put it this way, young, or old. One still has to pay. Yes, sometime the young guy can get away with not paying, but try that is Thailand. Those girls won't go for that shit! Maybe once or twice for Free, but they will ask you. That is what they are!
Some people like the girls at the MP, strip show, fish bowl, SW, escort service, provided by Pimps, referrals from friends, or whoever, and freelancers. Whatever they like, let it be.
It is a matter of choice!
Some people like to shop at Macys, while the other shops at target. Some of the products is the same, while some are not. The product that are the same, will cost different in both places, why? Marketing, locations, and they way we view things.
This is my opinion on this. Everyone needs to stop this, and move out to what they are really here for.
Hi everyone,
Just spent a week in Iriga City, Camarines Sur. Noting to report because asawa was always with me. She's staying an extra week there as I am flying out Saturday Morning. I fly back into Manila on Friday, staying at the Manila Pavilon. If anyone wants to hook up and go out, PM me. I am thinking of LA Cafe in the evening. Is there any activity during the day there? If not I will be stopping at the Robinson's mall in the morning to see if anything happens. When there with asawa, lot of girls were staring when I was alone, but I was afraid to approach with asawa around.
Hope to meet someone,
The teddybear
Sheeesh what a silly debate were having here. The L.A. Cafe is ok for a jumping off point. If your looking for a super model...it's not the place to go. If your just wanting to have a beer and some fun. It's a good spot to go.
Personally I think the most fun with the ladies is to be had outside of Manila. There's not as much of the hustle and lots of cuties to pick from.
I can make some criticisms of Burgos and EDSA. Lots of good looking babes there. No doubt. But lots of attitude and hustle to.
Personally I try to find a gal who is both hot and sweet and fun to be with and try to talk her into getting the hell out of Manila for some time at the beach. Aint had any say no yet! :-)
To Whom It May Concern,
Old Pampangan wise man say: "Do not accept invitation to mud-wrestling contest with pig. All get dirty; pig is happy."
Though the adjective "silly" sure does hit the mark, I actually don't think any sort of a debate has been had by anyone, and I don't think the unsavory odor on the board the past two weeks has been about LA Cafe, Manila, Filipinas, the RP, or anything else. A few emotionally immature loudmouths recently blew into town and immediately provoked a childish flame war, hijacking this board from everyone else. It isn't about anything of substance at all, just a few individuals' desire to make noise for no particular purpose, using whatever pretext is at hand. My take is that the original motivation is similar to the deviant thrill a vandal gets from his fleeting illusion of importance when he throws a rock through his neighbor's window. I think nearly all of us look forward to the few ill-mannered children blowing back out of town so this useful resource can return to it's former status as a helpful means of information sharing among civil adults in an atmosphere of mutual respect.
I see that through similarly confrontational intemperate remarks one of the participants has managed to engage in similar disputes on three continents in four months. For me that explains the mystery of how it was so easy for one to become so authoritative on how things really are in Manila in less time than it took to refuel the plane he came in on. I suspect that an attempt to clean up this kind of thing through tactful discourse, reasoned appeal, and direct substantive reply to the individuals will prove about as productive as trying to vacuum a cat. Allow me to suggest that silence and deliberate neglect may eventually suffice where a normal healthy sense of shame is apparently absent. One of them may feel contrite about rising to the bait after a few weeks of calm reflection. The others can just be elsewhere. So many continents, only so much adolescent arrogance to spread around. I think the Antarctic board may be just dying for some jazzing up with some dismissive corrections from overnight experts. Bon voyage, and if you need help with your bags a great many folks will be pleased to oblige, sirs.
Just two Centavos worth from a wastrel.
Gentlemen,
I finally got the chance to see the LA Cafe for myself recently. I was in Manila for a few days and remembered seeing something on this forum about the place (Though the great debate had not begun yet). I was lucky that a colleague knew where it was (about a km from my hotel), and he'd already chatted up the waitresses and knew a little about the mechanics of the place.
My only complaint about the "cafe" is that they were out of Crispy Patas the one night we really wanted them. To their credit, We talked Mike (night mgr) in to going across the street to Jurassic Park and seeing if they had any. No luck.
Of the three nights I was there (Left early one night to scope out the action in other realms), two of those nights I was accompanied back to my hotel by a nice young lady.
The first night it was a nice looking single mother who cared for her grandfather, had an invalid grandmother, dead parents and her birthday was tomorrow (Go figure!) Even though I didn't fall for the lines, we had a good time for a couple reasons:
1. She fed me french fries (I love this).
2. She stated early on that she was a freelancer.
3. She could name the artists singing the songs playing before I could.
She had a great face and nice body and said the price was going to be up to me as to what I wanted to pay, depending on my satisfaction.
So we left, went to the hotel and had a great time.
Next night was the night that the waitresses seemed VERY friendly, leaning on me, hanging around my table, joking and of course, rubbing my shoulders. I was tempted to take one home (Melinda? Melissa?) but there was this ONE girl a few tables away that was just enchanting. She had been chatted up by 5 different guys before I asked Melinda about her. I found out that she used to be a waitress at the LA Cafe, but was no longer working.
This girl was just TOO cute. Younger than I normally pay attention to but old enough to have a very sexy look. Melinda went over and told her that I was interested and it only took a few minutes for her to come over. This should say a lot. Any other girl in the place would have been there the second I looked at her twice.
Her name is Karen and she looked even younger up close, and shy was a bit shy at first but she too, liked to feed me french fries.
After talking for awhile, and not even discussing money, we went back to the hotel. Had a very nice time again, though she was a bit shy and not as experienced as the girl the night before.
So, since I don't want to fuel the debate, I'll just do what I should do, add a few photos:
One other of Karen (Without makeup. Do I have to say why?) She's looking like shoe could go a couple more rounds.
Since Karen was shy and didn't want me to take nekkid photos of her. Here's my other LA Cafe take-home.
And a little better shot.
One final, she didn't mind being a model.
Really, FS. Balut? Yuk! But then I do like durian. Taste like heaven, smells like hell. No, I don't like my pussy that way either. :))
Cute post, wastrel. And on target so far as characterizing the mud-slinging on the now notorious LA Café. Though it may not have been information bearing (the purported purpose for this board) I think that readers probably enjoy our 'debate'. The board hasn’t been ‘hijacked’ yet, but there are some loud passengers on board.
I just discovered WSG Forum, and think it’s a great resource. It should be entertaining as well as informative (and judging from Jackson’s bandwidth problems is both). Nothing wrong with a few brawls to keep the readers enthused.
Interesting that you brought up the point on 5 continents – Juniour DOES seem to get around. I enjoy his posts: they are informative, often with pics. Mikster and Dragon Slayer, on the other hand are local boys – it seems they spend all their travels in Manila.
So I suspect a different dynamic is at work: Juniour and I came into a small town (Manila) and reviewed it from a more urbane perspective. Looking back at the posts, I think both of us provide lots of info with an objective voice.
But, in a small town, you don’t simply waltz in and impugn the beauty of the local girls. Even if they are fat, ugly and hairy, they may be someone’s sister.
Mikster and Dragon Slayer (by Mikster’s own admission) disliked our observations on the PI, yanked our chains with some well placed aspersions, and we pushed back. Nothing personal, just alpha male behaviour (wouldn’t you expect that on a forum called World Sex Guide / ).
What now / The LA Café thread is tedious. I’ll have to find something else in the PI to disparage. It shouldn’t be too hard, given that the PI is the low rent neighborhood of Asia. I’d rather be in China (and am, by gosh! ). Yeh, English and Spanish (the locals call it Tagalog) are spoken in the PI, so it’s more like being in LA (the city, not the café). But the girls are cuter, less hirsute and cleaner in China, Thailand, etc.
Oh, sorry, was that your sister / Ouch!
Kudos, Wiley. You’ve finally added some objectivity to the ‘debate’ (though I use that word guardedly). And Karen is cute; she’s got my approval.
Well, it’s clear to me from recent discussions in pursuit of 500P Manila beauty queens that beauty truly IS in the eye of the monger. Here’s the problem. Those of you conversant in psychometrics know that 10-point scales (what are known as Likert scales in the lingo) are verboten, because they have a mid-point (5 for the mathematically challenged). An acceptable Likert scaling (see http://trochim.human.cornell.edu/kb/scallik.htm) requires an odd number, preferably 5 or 7 points.
Therefore as a public service, I want to put forth my modest proposal for a uniform 5-point Likert scale for barroom beauties. This should greatly reduce confusion in future posts. (For the mathematically challenged, divide your 10-point valuation by 2 to get the Likert ranking).
Reference benchmark for Manila mongering (with LT charge):
1=Manila wetmarket poultry (100P), and wear a condom as there are nasty strains of Avian flu floating around Manila. Oh, and cook well before eating.
2= Charlize Theron in “Monster” or your average Filipina domestic (500P-1000P), bring your own condom
3=Karen, or the better P. Burgos girls (1000P-5000P), best to slip on a raincoat
4= Quezon City superstars (5000-20KP), condoms optional
5= Charlize Theron at the Oscars (if you need to ask, you can’t afford it)
Flame away!
Okay, ONE MORE TIME!
Can someone who knows can tell me if there is any leftover baggage departments in either the domestic or international airport. I leave for Manilla in like 2 days and need an answer.
If anyone knows, will be grateful :).
Wiley,
A big thank you for your unbiased opinions and observations, I am with Han Bali on this one, we should have a few varied opinions about various venues and leave it up to the audience to decide and not try to impose your opinions on others.
One problem through the whole of this board is that of the proliferation of [b]”False Information”[/b] and let me tell you I have seen some really wild claims; some of these people that make these claims should be man enough to at least back up their claims, instead of saying: "just take my word for it". These guys claim to find the 8s & 9s beauties and spend all night with them and pay them pittance, if that, when they kick them out in the morning, (their words not mine) then when you questions them about their claims they get all defensive. I asked to see the photos of this “so-called” beauty queen and one guy said the girl, he’d paid only 500 Pesos to didn’t want him to show them to anyone,[i](where did he leave his balls?)[/i] like she is really sitting there at home on her computer, searching the net for her image; also conveniently forgetting that he could also have masked their identity, like I have done and not have given their correct names – So obviously when people read this information, who have been to these places themselves and seen what is really on offer, you can bet we’re sceptical and suspicious about such claims?
The whole idea about this board is to share your experiences, “good or bad”, not your tall stories; there are plenty of other channels for that.
Only one thing though Han Bali; Miskster has only been to the Philippines once, earlier this year for a couple of weeks – so this hardly ranks him as a local boy or expert, despite his high opinion of himself.
So thanks Wiley – just loved your post, so I guess that’s one up for the LA Café.
Juiniour
[i]Oh and before anyone pipes up about my conclusions in the Angeles City board about “seven girls to one guy”, I admit its more of a phrase than fact, if you want to string me up in Manila Bay and gives me 10,000 lashed at dawn for my indiscretions, then so be it guys; but I post about my experiences. That’s all I have to say on the subject.[/i]
Fellas,
I thought me and Juniour had this thing worked out over on the AC board, but he cant seem to let it go. I dont want to start anything again, but he seems to think his opinion is superior to mine.
He was just recently lecturing me on the morality, exploitation, and how to treat women. I told him that I didnt post the photos because the girls who's photos I took, asked me not to post them. They were worried they would end up on a porn site or something so I havent done it. So, if I did post them after promising not to juniour, wouldnt this be exploiting them as you seem so against? They didnt say post my photo, but black out my face, they asked me NOT to post them. So I didnt. If you dont believe my exploits in AC, go to the Ponderosa Hotel next time and ask about Mike from USA who had the ladies parked outside the entrance at all times waiting for him. The people who work there know about my escapades.
So you are saying that there are no beauty queens for P500. Let me nicely remind you, since you dont seem to remember, that the barfine in AC is P1000 and the girl gets P500. So you are paying P500 for the girl. Do you understand this juniour? Do I need to explain this in greater detail so you can understand fully? Therefore, you are saying there are no 8, 9, or 10 girls in AC? Ok, sorry you had such bad luck but that doesnt apply to the rest of us. So juniour, saying lots of men pay P500 for hot girls is a FACT not opinion. Get it?
As far as mininformation, I havent given any. They are my opinions, and they jive with the majority of the members on this board who overwhelmingly agree with me about LA Cafe and what you can get there. You on the other hand made a statement of fact that there are 7 girls born to every boy. This was not your opinion, you wrote it in bold face and underlined it if I remember correctly. There are other examples, but I will leave it at that.
There is no such thing as an unbiased opinion, including yours and mine. We all have biases so unbiased reporting does not exist.
As far as being an expert, I believe just about anyone can become an expert at AC in a very short time. There isnt that much to learn, except in your case maybe when you start dating so called regular girls there and buy them things and believe everything they tell you. Maybe you do have more to learn. So, I am not on expert on Manila, or Makati, or other areas, but one trip goes a long way and I felt quite comfortable there after two weeks. I certainly didnt go to LA Cafe and act like a pussy as you did and feel threatened or defame everyone in there by lumping all the patrons into one disreputable category. Is this how you respect the people of the RP my friend?
Your right about one thing though, I do have a very high opinion of myself and so do the ladies. They can see I am a man who is not stupid enough to pay P3000 for 40 minutes including dinner.
Final question. You continually get on my shit for not having a regular girl in the RP. You live there for many years, you claim. What the name of you regular girlfriend? What was such a veteran of the RP and a guy who respects morality and hates exploitation of women doing in AC P4P? I may be back over there soon, when you going again? Lets hook up.
Mikster
PS: Remember your private message to me? About the terrorists and how we should stop talking about LA Cafe? Dont you think posting all your reports about AC will only cause the threat to increase there? hehehehehehe
Tiger74,
NO. There is no overnight baggage storage in all airports in the Philippines, Domestic or International. Why do you need that?
Tiger,
No, I don't think so. I am not the best one to answer this, since I never check bags on airplanes, so if one of the locals gives a different response in time for your trip listen to them, not me. But I would be very surprised if there was any provision for storage at the airport, and even more surprised if anyone actually used it.
On flights across the big pond I have learned to become a firm believer in the two major categories of baggage: carry-on and lost. NAIA is very much a third world airport, with all the, ahem, "eccentricities" that go with that. Not long ago Her Excellency the President of the RP publicly admonished airport workers to please stop driving flashy luxury vehicles and wearing so much expensive jewelry to work, as it doesn't look good to the public. These individuals' actual salaries are less than many westerners spend on pet food. Baggage from first world countries is apt to get especially careful (and time consuming) "inspection" and valuable contents are notoriously vulnerable to getting "lost" somewhere between wheels down and your waiting arms. The Philippine threshold for what is valuable enough to "disappear" (used as a verb) is considerably lower than what many westerners would imagine. I suggest one might want to pack accordingly.
Wastrel
Hey guys, I literally just returned from the Phils yesterday, and as a faithful monger should, I'm posting my re-cap. Keep in mind, this was my first trip ever to this country:
PART 1
Flew into Manila Wed night and, after checking into my hotel (guys, stay at Atrium in Pasay if you want big clean rooms for $25US/night) I took a cab directly to LA Cafe. There were a lot of girls there although it was more like 2:1 ratio and not the 7:1 some guys have posted. 95% were of the typical short, brown-skinned variety which doesn't appeal to me, so I sat down in the section where there were a ton of korean guys and the more expensive girls. To make a long story short, I picked up a cute, 23 y/o chick for P2000 all-night, but she turned out to be a lousy lay and I gave her P1500 after 1 hr cuz I didnt like her "all about money" attitude. So my 1st night w/ a pinay was disappointing, but hey, at least I got my rocks off (barely) after just 3 hours in the country. I didn't go to La Cafe again as the women were just too mediocre in the looks department for me although they did have a very good band that night.
The next day, I met up with a college girl who I had met on Yahoo a coupla months ago. We were to meet at Glorietta mall but she was caught in traffic so I decided to walk around this gigantic shopping center. Boy am I glad I did! There were TONS of hot girls everywhere and that's saying a lot coming from a picky 27 y/o asian guy like myself. Anyway, these chicks looked way better than the girl I was to meet and they were definitely eyeing me back, but being the gentleman that I was, I didnt ditch the 1st girl. She turned out to be cute in a little girl sorta way but she was really shy and conversation was like pulling teeth, although her english was quite good. Anyway, we had lunch and then walked around the mall a bit before I told her I need to head back to my hotel and "rest" since I didnt see much happening from this. To my surprise, she gave me this transparently weak story that she has no place to sleep tonight because her cousin (whom she stays with) is mad at her, and if she could sleep on the couch in my room tonight. Obviously, I didnt refuse, so we ended up in my room watching TV for like 2 hrs while doing some light flirting which led to a little tickling match which in-turn led to me stroking her arms and legs while "objectively" commenting on the smoothness of her skin. Anyway, taking it through these somewhat arduous stages really paid off as we ended up kissing and me teaching her how to french kiss which she really enjoyed. After a few mins, things really started getting hot and heavy and titty-action ensued which is always a good sign for things to come. Anyway, when I tried to finger-check Mr. Clam, she suddenly grabbed my arm so I thought that was as far as she was willing to go. But she told me she was actually just afraid of pain because it had hurt the 3 times she had had sex. Relieved, I assured her that I would be gentle and proceeded on, happy for the green light. No wonder it hurt her - she was unbelievably TIGHT! It helped that she was wet enough to create a little puddle on the sheets, but I could still barely fit "the head" in. Some grinding action got things going, however, and I had a lot of fun teaching her different positions and ways to get off, etc. Basically, we stayed in bed all night and did it 2 more times in the morning before I sent her on her way after breakfast. I hadn't even realized until that morning that I hadn't even had dinner the previous night, hehe. Anyway, it was fun since she was into it as much as I and it was free (not counting $5 I spent for lunch and breakfast). But, things went downhill fast.....
(to be continued...)
Is that true, Mikster? You've only been to Manila once?
I can't believe I've been Conned by a Fraud!
Han Bali,
When I get some "free time" I will teach you to read, if it is at all possible. I just returned from Mainland China and Hong Kong. I speak four (4) languages. I am now studying Pudongkwan (Chinese for the uninformed). What languages? Thai, Japanese, Spanish (english) and some vasayan. I have been making plans to be in all these places in April - July (Japan, Thailand, Philippines, China, HK & Panama City, Panama).
Mikster,
Okay Juniour will just NOT QUIT. Lake a "bad infection" that keeps resurfacing. Draw comfort from his "chosen name". It is Dodong in Vasayan. Dong also is used for the word cock in Vasayan (correct word being otin).
Pal, forget the guy. If he names himself after a "cock' you cannot expect him to behave like he was a Rocket Scientist or Nurosurgeion. Take solace that in the way he spends money, unless he is extremely wealthy or earning the salary of a Neuro Surgeon, he will not be making too many trips.
For Han Bali, Juniour and the other Rookies, Vasayan is the name of the language spoken in the Vasayas and most of the Mindanao, including my favorite place, Davao.
Be back in 4 weeks.
Dragon Slayer
DragonS,
It's PuTongHua (where did you ever get Pudongkwan?) and means 'the common language.'
(BTW, that's Chinese for the congenitally clueless)
Here's another addition to your limited vocabulary (Hey, no charge buddy):
Dork= a sperm whale's penis
We also apply it to guys who pronounce PuTongHua (the correct PinYin) as Putongkwan. Talk to your instructor about a refund.
DS,
Minor correction ..... it should be Visayas and the language is Visayan. There are actually 3 major dialects in the visayas region, and from what you used, it is Cebuano which is the dialect of the Cebu & Bohol region. Waray is the language of Leyte and Samar. Western Visayas usually speak Ilonggo (except for Aklan province, which has its own dialect Aklanon). Both Cebuano and Ilonggo dialects are also used in several places in Mindanao.
The region is Visayas.
The language is Visayan.
The people can be referred to as Visayan, but is more correctly referred to as Visaya (or Bisaya if pronounced by Filipinos).
It should also be PutongHwa for the chinese language you are referring to (that is, Mainland Chinese). A similar dialect is known as Mandarin, which is used by Taiwanese and overseas chinese speaking the national dialect. The chinese dialect used in the Philippines is locally referred to as Hokkien (or A-Mng) because most PI chinese came from the Xiamen region of China.
My apologies for the long language lesson.
Hey Guys,
Why are you so touchy, I made a few observed comments and you both react, right on cue, Dragon Slayer and Mikster do the both of you believe you are the voice of reason on this board? The only ones who can have an opinion here and you get upset if someone doesn’t agree with your views.
Really you should not be taking up bandwidth with such drivel, it more appropriate if you guys actually posted informed posts here or leave it to others like Wiley & Stace, who I see also went to the LA Café and paid what….1,500 Pesos for a girl from there, which is exactly what I paid, for a lousy lay from there, what’s going on here guys?? (another newbie overpaying or what?)
Sorry guys I cannot compete with you, I only speak four languages but take my advice I think you should really concentrate on the English because you have some problems here, quoting things out of context, (I suggest you go back and read the posts again, then read it again until you fully understand, what it actually says) but that’s what happens with when you are obviously full of yourself.
Dragon Slayer you are right on one thing though, no I will not be making too many trips to the Phils because the world is too big a place and as I have to opportunity to travel to other locations on the globe I might as well go and see some other places and test out more claims of some other guys just like you. And you don't need to be a rocket scientist to do that.
Juniour
[i]Hey Mikster and Dragon Slayer I will post a quick reply to your questions in the general information part of this board, where it should be [/i]
Genius8,
I am too tired to respond properly now. Later. Have you EVER been to Leyte? Have you EVER been throughout Mainland China?
I have a HOME on Leyte. YES, A HOME Grasshopper. Currently building one right on the beach. No I DO NOT own it as I am an American citizen. Belongs to my Daughter and her Mother jointly. I just PAY for everything. Wari IS NOT spoken there. It is Spoken in Tacloban City and that area. Do not believe me. I will have my little Daughter talk to you in perfect, fluent Vasayan. Not a word of Wari.
Grasshopper, read my prior Posts before commenting. Save you a lot of embarrassment.
What the f--- do you think pudognkwan is Grasshopper? Did you ever go into China? I just returned from my third trip of 1-2 weeks in the last 7 months. If you read my Posts in Shenzen China you would know I have a girlfriend in her final year of medical school in China.
Another who really named himself correctly.
For Juniour and Hans Bali or whatever, I just don't like you making foolish assumptions of someone who has spent half his life in Southeast Asia. I had a Thai Wife 16 years ago. Got that Hans? I had an apartment in Thailand for a year. I go there 4-5 times a year still.
Juniour, I said it already. Pay whatever you want for the ladies. DO NOT EVER call me cheap Charlie. I put one Girl in Leyte (not my woman who is from a wealthy family) through five (5) years of College. I paid for everything, including room and board. I am now puttilng a little girl throug a very expensive, private school She is not mine but a cousin of my daughter. Has a Loser Father who will not work. Family is "fed up" with him. Has to support him and his Family as it is. But the little girl is deserving of a good education like my own Son and Daughter get.
The Philippines is my "true love" of ALL countries of the world. I Post here becasue I want to Post here. To please everyone I will stop and Post in China, Hong Kong, Thailand and Japan.
Back in the Philippines in 25 days. Buy you a drink Juniour. Or, dinner/drinks at my Place on Leyte.
Dragon Slayer
DS
Are you sure you're not just making this up? You don't really sound like you have traveled much. Maybe you just heard about these places on the Discovery Channel.
DS,
Not to split hairs but:
I have been to Tacloban City.
Waray is what Leyte and Samar people are normally referred to.
It is also what their local dialect is called.
I speak fluent Ilonggo.
I understand Cebuano.
I have very good friends from Samar and understand when they talk in their native dialect, although this was years ago.
Just to make it clear, Visayas is composed of Eastern and Western Visayas. So any one of the several major dialects qualify as visayan language. Easter Visayas have waray, cebuano, and hiligaynon as the major dialects. Western Visayas have Ilonggo, Aklanon, Capiznon, as the major dialects.
And I have lived in the Philippines over 20 years.
I also speak fluent Hokkien (Fil-Chinese dialect) and Mandarin.
I have mainland chinese friends, and can converse with them in english or putonghwa.
What's happening here? Just ignore the boastful loud mouths and leader wannabes. To whom it may concern, try not to talk about how many castles you have and what chivalrous deeds you've done in your lifetime, and, another thing, don't [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off the natives coz you might just end up having a spear on your back. Please let's stick with the subject matter, that is, sex.
Will you guys please stop bickering at one another like little children in a playground. I like things better when the posts in this thread could be counted with two hands within a week. If you guys want to continue on the go to the Thai board or do it with your PMs.
Lets keep this place for posting sharing information and experiences. You guys remind me of the political campaigning going on around here where candidates won't back down.
genius8,
Thanks for the language lesson. Asides the different dialects in every region there are dozens of sub-dialects for each smaller townships, too. Like in Surigao City were their Visaya sub-dialect is called Suriganon. I also understand Mandarin but speak it with difficulty.
Stace,
Thank you for your post. It is a welcomed relief and break here.
Han Bali,
The Philippines isn't the low-rent of Asia. Check Cambodia and Laos. Girls there go for $5 or less and is really "primitive" or "native".
Juniour,
Enjoyed your post and too bad about your experience with the L.A. Cafe. But the place is a 50-50 and I am a patient man with time to kill. Hope you get to come back and check out other places asides Manila and Angeles City when you decide to come back. Lets put this all behind.
DS,
Relax and enjoy your stay in China. Hopefully all this will be over and this thread will be back to normal. You have Davao all staked out and Manila is changing. L.A. Cafe has lost some of its luster but it still holds a few gems for those who know how to work her. Hopefully I get to meet you and Goodenough down there in Davao since I'm stationed right now just 8 - 10 hours to the north in Cagayan de Oro City.
Tiger 74,
G'day.
I am not sure if a "left over baggage department" is the same a the left luggage department, but there is definitely a facility where you can store your luggage overnight at the PAL International Airport as I used it for 5 days just recently. It cost 150 Pesos ( about US$2.70) per day.
I am also fairly certain that the same type of facility is available at the other international airport as well as I used it also but some 10 years ago. Sorry but I don't know about the domestic airport.
Hopefully this is of some assistance to you.
Oksakagin
That's what I thought too. But some have said definately "no" so I kept my mouth shut.
I think Tiger74 has departed already, but if you're out there, just about every hotel is happy to store a couple bags, if the airport doesn't work.
FD
Pinay Lover. I called the L.A. Cafe "Low rent" not the PI.
Pinay Lover:
There's a chance that I will go to Cayagan de Oro for a couple of days in May. I will certainly let you know by PM if these plans materialize. Is there anything fun to do there? We will keep the clubs here in Davao warm for you until you can get here.
Stay well.
GE
Goodenough,
Hope to see you in CDOC in May. By the look of things, I might still be here. So far, not much on the action scene but then women and college girls are everywhere. Met several cute ones from Xavier U. Since work keeps me busy, I only get to play during the weekends.
Han Bali,
Just commenting to your post on 3-25-04, last paragraph. But thanks for elaborating.
Pinay Lover:
When are you going to be in Davao? Any firm plans?
GE
PL,
Tongue in cheek only. PI's a nice place.
Hello fellow hobbyists,
I will be in Manila 4/16-4/22 and was wondering about my prospects for the are surrounding the convention center. I will be staying at the Westin. Is it lady friendly? I'm looking for 18-24 year old stunners. Can pay if I have to.
Thanks
Goodenough,
I'll be heading towards General Santos City sometime in April to meet some contractors. Definitely will pass through Davao City and spend a few days to check DS and your findings. No specific date so far.
I have not been to the Philippines but I have a friend who has invited me from work to stay with him in manila, I am more of a Thai or even Cambodia person. But if there is any action in manila I will go. I like massage places even BJ bars if there is any there can anyone recommend any such places in Manila.
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Koala89
No disrespect here pal, but have you actually tried reading some of the previous post? Its filled with the information you seek both [b]Good[/b] and [b]Bad[/b].
Why do we spend time posting "useful information" if you’re not going to be bothered to read them?
Juniour
Crossman,
Westin is within short distance both to LA Cafe/Ermita/Malate and the EDSA Complex (less than 10 minutes).
The hotel is "friendly, but the ladies will normally have to register after 22:00 or 23:00 in the evening.
I will only be in the manila for a few days and staying out of town with a friend, what I am really interested in is if there is in Manila any type of massage parlours which might include everything. I usually go to Thailand but not sure if there is anything of this sort in the Philippines.
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Thanks Marconista,
Are the places you mentioned 10 minutes walking or by car? I have read much about these two places on this board and will most likely try both.
After sampling 5 different flavors of lovelies in Hong Kong last week, I would like to find one young local beauty to make my week fun and comfortable. I arrive late Friday night and will probably have to hit the closest night spot since I arrive at the hotel around 1 AM.
Anyway, thanks to all the contributors for their experiences and insight.
Pinay Lover:
You're welcome here any time. This should be a busy month if you and the Dragon Slayer show up at the same time.
GE
Crossman!
Most estimates re time on this board will normally be for wheels, and so was mine :) The Westin hotel-taxi is safe at that hour of night, and cost about PhP 150 (USD.3) to EDSA (fixed price, and you ask for the rates at the taxi-desk outside the hotel. EDSA close about 3AM if I remember correctly. If you go there just before closing-time, you chat up the girl and ask her to see you afterwards. Agree to have her meet you outside of Heritage hotel, which is 3 minutes WALK, and across the street. This way you dont have to pay the bar-fine to the club. In EDSA you will find Casino Bar. Say hello to Herman, the bartender from me. Just indicate who I am, pretending you have a bicycle-moustache :) Have fun.
Koala - please do a search, and you will find what you look for.
Everyone:
Next week is "Holy Week" in the Philippines, and the official Government holiday runs from Wednesday through Friday. This means that a lot of young women will head back to the Provinces. However, it also probably means that the night spots are going to be packed every night and the week-end mood will prevail throughout most of the week. Also, internal flights are likely to be more heavily-booked than usual.
There are no domestic flights on Good Friday and I believe that intercity bus service also ceases on Good Friday. I found out about the domestic flights stopping the hard way in 2001. International flights still happen.
GoodEnough,
Apparently, you haven't seen the Philippines during the weekend of "Holy Week". Your guess is the opposite of reality. Even sin establishments respect tradition. During Easter Sunday when everything seems to be back to normal, people are not in the hurry to be in the festive mode. Locals don't hunt for eggs and celebrate like people in the USA. It is rare to see establishments open at night, and, even if they did, it will be a dead and boring night as people will not try so hard to end the week in a sin establishment. I suggest you make arrangements early on with somebody if you really want to have company over the weekend.
MasterBlaster
Hi
Heading out to Manila in a couple of weeks. This will be a first time for me. Staying at Heritage. Someone posted in an earlier report that Burgos St. has good quality but expensive - however if you get there early enough (before 8 p.m. when the shift changes) you can meet some nice ones and arrange for them to meet you after the shift so you dont pay expensive bar fine.
Can anyone verify for me which bars/clubs have these 8 p.m. shifts and recommend a couple of good ones for me.
Thanks for the help.
Hank
Goodenough,
Easter weekend is dead and no domestic flights on Good Friday if I'm not mistaken. Think of it as get-away-day back in the States where everyone heads out of the big cities during the holidays but much worse. Few clubs will be open if any in the provinces. Most one can hope for is a Blockbuster night where you rent a video and cuddle up with your girl for the night or two.
I learned to make it a habit to stay put during Holy Week or be where I want to be by then. Wish I was either in Cebu or in Manila for the holiday instead of being stuck here in CDOC. Enjoy your holiday, pare. Ingat.
Master Blaster:
I agree with you. Its always very slow during Holy Week.
Hank:
your assumption that you can meet girls after their shift is correct, but, you can do that no matter what shift they are on.
If it is your idea to go to Burgos and be cheap, then you might want to reconsider. Its expensive there. You said you are staying at the Heritage which is a nice place across the street from EDSA. You can go in there and get girls to meet you over at your hotel no problem. Either you can get them to "S.O." (Sneak Out, as they say), or just pay their bloody bar fine. Its only$25 there. Not bad for a whole night.
Then if you like the girl, you have a good chance of getting her to call in sick the next night and you can get her for free that night.
good luck.
Lalake.
Lalake,
Thanks for the response - but no I am not interested in going to burgos to be cheap - I want quality and will pay the girl more than other places to get the better quality. I just don't want to pay some of the really steep bar fines I have heard about in that area (much higher than $ 25). I don't mind a bar fine if its reasonable but I had heard Burgos was unreasonably high. So anyway - the key to my question is about the 1) shift changes. I dont want to hang around until some 2 a.m. shift, I would prefer an earlier shift change cause then we have the evening free and night. 2) What are some of the better bars and clubs and do they have early enough shift changes.
Thanks for the good info on Edsa
If anyone else can give me some tips on my above questions, thanks.
Hank
Hi Hank,
good reply.
check out Bottoms in Burgos, so many hot girls. Also, just so you know, I think the girls who start at 8pm, finish at 4am, not 2am, so that is even worse than you thought. Its just something to bear in mind.
If you want quality, I say don't even go to Burgos, and head to Greenbelt. Even though I love Burgos, Greenbelt has some sweet girls hanging out in regulars bars.
Good luck.
Hank,
While it's true that some of the bars have an early shift, I lived in the Vira on P Burgous and got "drop ins" mid evening, it's been too long ago for me to remember which ones. Dimples ? Anyway, seems like if you swung by for lunch you'd be chatting with the girls getting off around 8:00. Yes guys, I know it's a pedantic point, but sometimes you just don't think about the obvious.
Good luck,
FD
I have a friend who I will be staying with called batangas in manila does anyone know if there are any bars or whatever else might be there. I am interested in women and bars as long as it not too far from any kind nightlife action I will be going with him.
Cheers,
Koala
Koala,
Batangas is 2 hours outside of manila, thats with traffic....which is usually the case.
I recommend you get a hotel in manila, and have your friend come up to manila from batangas..
good luck
Lalake
Everyone:
I don't want to bore you with another extensive report on LA Cafe, but I just got back from three days in Manila and, even though it was the beginning of Holy Week here, the place was virtually packed. I wound up picking up a lady who was a solid 8.5-9 which is the best I have ever done at that place. Once again, there was no mention of money, and we had a great time.
Han Bali,
There are two Beverly Hills that I know of in the Philippines. One is in Antipolo, Rizal and the other is in the hills of Cebu City. If you ever get that house across the LA Cafe. I'm sure many of the posters in this thread will be there for one hell of a house warming party.
Hello everyone,
I have been a lurker at this forum for the last year. Mostly looking at manilatonight.com for my fix.
Anyway, I will be going to the U.S. (SFO) this August for some graduate studies and I was wondering if there are any similar forum sites in the U.S. similar to the abovementioned one.
I have read the reports in the San Francisco thread but they are mostly about SW and AMPs.
Just wanted to find out there is a similar forum in the U.S. aside from this great one (WSG).
Thanks in advance.
[b] Han Bali[/b]
Dammm, poor us missing out on all this action in the LA Café – its a shame your pals got taken by aliens, hope they turn up soon – in the meanwhile next time I am in town maybe I could hook up with Claudia Schiffer, Cindy Crawford or the current Miss Philippines, all for the price of a couple of drinks, hanging out at the LA Café, as these guys are now away.
Beverley Hills is in Cebu, where all of the rich Philippinos and many Chinese-Filippinos like to live – there are some nice houses up there.
Roubaix
There is a sex club in San Francisco, that I went to last Saturday. It is an interesting place, Lots of Fucking going on, but too many cross-dressers, and they were BJing guys left to right.
Too bad, but that ain't for me. If you never been, it is a place that you see once in a while.
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All,
After much maligned flaming over the LA Cafe I have done an independent survey on this subject as far as members opinions.
This is by no means a scientific survey or an opinion, just an observation. You are welcome to form your own.
Members who have expressed likes of the LA Cafe:
Marconista
Firedick
Hooker Tester
Cancontrib
Fgump
P-guy
Tonyshimada
Khao Rop
Osakagin
Metal Gear
Wiggams
Dashing Don
Joe Banana
Street Hound
Wastrel
Good Enough
Iahnrt
Steve101
Ilongo-Boy
Golazo
Mottley Dude
Mikster
Wiley
Love Asian *****s
Spidey
Everflow
Flying Scotsman
Members who have dislikes of the LA Cafe:
Opebo
Mahal
Juniour
Han Bali
Mookman
If I have gotten your like or dislike misconstrued I am sorry, as I said this is not a scientific survey just an observation.
This was done in the Manila section only.
Have a nice day.
Rio.
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I see my last post was deleted (protests from the pro-LACafé contingent?). Hmmm. Perhaps there are doubts about my story of alien abduction (though I don’t think alien abductions are any harder to believe than 500P beauty queens trolling the tables at LA Café; just my opinion). I’m amazed at how serious these guys are taking the thread. WSG forum is about recreation, and opinions differ; and if there is no element of fun or humor, why bother?
It’s not about whether the LA Café is good or bad. I didn’t find it to my liking, but would give it another shot next time I’m in Manila. But to label critical reports as ‘hatespeak’ and to cast aspersions on dissatisfied customers as ‘lacking balls’ seems a bit heavy-handed. From what I saw, and from what I’m seeing posted on WSGF, it’s a great place for older guys on a budget.
This is not an opinion just stating a fact:
Our famous, much mentioned CAFE is open 24 hours. There are always some hookers in there.
I was pretty disillusioned at let's say 10AM or 2PM but after 8 or 9 at night the place rocks. I haven's seen such good atmosphere and so many semi-pro girls since the poor old Paddy's Pub was blown up in Bali, Indonesia two years ago (the new one is crap).
Anyway, just go upstairs after the band started 9:30 PM. The better looking girls go up because they have to pay and can afford it better, I guess. (Foreighners don't pay, same as Bali.) I am not a sex addict, only take a shot every couple of weeks but I was very tempted.
As for the price, somebody mentioned for taking it FREE. Well boys, didn't they teach us at school that if you take it, you pay for it. The girl maybe too shy to ask for it but a financial contribution is always appreciated.
Look around that city and see the general standard of living. Compared to it, Bangkok is paradise. So, great HEROES, who get "FREE pussy" in the PI: Shame, shame on you! I guess you will be the first to complain when someone will take your belongings for FREE. I hope it won't happen but you see these things just keep coming back to us.
So, good luck!
By the way, if you want some instructions on how to get there:
It's in Ermita. About 10 minutes walk from the US Embassy along M.H Del Pilar Street. It's on the corner of R.Salas street. Not all taxi drivers know where it is but you can buy the "Metro Manila E-Z map for 100 pesos everywhere and it has all the streets on it although L.A. Cafe is not marked. M.H. Del Pilar as well as R. Salas are one way so if you are coming from south, your driver might have to take a long circle to get there. it is better if you get out on Roxas Boulevard on the corner of R.Salas or Pedro Gil Street and walk two blocks. These streets are well lighted and you should be okay before 11o'clock or so. There are lots of neons and it is easy to recognise the building.
One girls also told me that there is another cafe like L.A. and sometimes she goes there. Next time I will get some more definite location.
If you are in the area you could also visit the EDSA complex on the corner of F B Harrison and EDSA Streets. It's marked on the map. It's only 5 minutes by taxi and around 60 pesos by metered taxi from LA Cafe. There are 9 go-go bars with prices roughly double as in Angeles.
If you flag down a taxi on the street make sure first that nobody is hiding on the back seat.
Best wishes.
A
Oh, no! Work again!
One problem with the semi-pro part-timers in the L.A. Cafe and similar hunting grounds is that you still have to chat them up.
They are more beautiful, more fresh but what you get is quite unpredictable. The work one has to put in orally and mentally is just damned too much for the benefits. (Plus you have to wear your best shirt and have to shave and the list goes on.)
There are more "hardened" girls in there too who would probably be much better for sex with a lot less work. So, there is a choice for everyone.
But it's good just to watch and to be there. Maybe even better than the sex itself. Beer,beer. Better than women! The older you get the more true it rings.
Alexander wrote: "If you flag down a taxi on the street make sure first that nobody is hiding on the back seat."
For first time visitors to Manila, he's not just joking about this. Though I am obviously a "Kano" I really don't feel I am any less safe in Manila than in Las Vegas or Los Angeles on average, but the nature of the things one needs to watch out for is different and takes a while to figure out. Fake taxi drivers are one of those things. Some guys with vehicles that look like regular taxis have been known to take tourists to waiting accomplices to be robbed. How to tell if it is a real taxi? If "the meter is broken" or for any reason does not get turned on as soon as you say "turn the meter on" assume it is fake. Close the door and walk away. If the driver tells you that he is going to pick up his cousin along the way, or another passenger to share the expense, or anything of the kind involving someone else getting into the taxi ever occurs, use any means necessary to get the hell out, even if you have to bail out into traffic. The driver may scream and yell at you. Let him, and keep going. His voice will get tired eventually. He knows he is on the wrong side of the local law, and is not about to get involved with the authorities while running an illegal unlicensed taxi with a fake meter to snare tourists for his gang.
I did once tell a driver that it would be necessary for me to stop at the bank on the corner to get money to pay him (I cheat at poker too) after he said something about needing to pick somebody else up to make the trip worthwhile on the meter. I went straight up to the bank guard at the door, and the driver sped off as soon as the shotgun toting guard was kind enough to approach to speak to the driver. The guard earned a tip. This is one reason I like to travel light, and always keep my bag (a single pilot case) next to me on the seat, never in the trunk, but if this should ever happen to you and the driver has control of your luggage, then I strongly suggest one should forget about the crap in the bags and get out fast. Clothing is cheap in the Philippines if you buy where the locals go. You can even get a new wardrobe custom made all the way down to the leather shoes for a fair price if you like.
I don't want to give the impression that this is highly likely to happen, because it isn't. The simple precaution of verifying that you are taking a taxi with a working meter will eliminate most potential problems. In my experience this caution applies throughout any of the districts of metro Manila, though I wouldn't know if similar concerns with taxis exist in other Philippine cities. All things considered, I like taking the LRT (a local elevated commuter train) when possible.
P.S. Alexander, I wonder if she is talking about the "Mig's Jurassic" bar a little north up M.H Del Pilar on the same side of the street going towards U.N. Avenue? If so, I have been curious about the current status of that place, and would like to hear what you find out about it.
Palawan in July?
I'm coming to Manila the first week in July and staying at the Makati Shangrila Hotel. Although there will be plenty of mongering pleasure, the main reason is business, so the date is not negotiable.
I was also thinking of taking a side trip to Palawan (El Nido Miniloc). A Manila GF from a previous trip will join me, but I was a little concerned about going in the rainy season. Any thoughts on how it would be then? Snorkeling and sailing are main attractions for me there.
Thanks!
A,
What do you mean that if you get FREE pussy, that they will steal from you? I paid what she wanted, and she still picked my pocket. It's not the Freebie, if you're a thief, you're a thief. Well, I went back to LA Cafe the other night, and lo & behold there she is. Of course, I knew she would be there, but I was expecting to see her. Also, she don't know that I go there all the time, and I know most of the people there.
I spotted her flirting with a foreigner like us. I told her nice job in picking my pocket, then she told me that she didn't. Oooh, really I said. I told her, let me tell the guy you are flirting with what you did! Then she grab on, and hug me, and told me " Nooo!!" She said, ok, You can Fuck me. I don't think so, with my hand in my pocket. C'mon, you can Fuck me for Free. I told her that I will pass. I told her next time.
The next time came around, and she ask me do I want the Free one. I Fuck her, and then in the Ass afterward. After we were done, she asked for money. I told her where is the freebie. She told me that I have to paid. I said you ripped me off the last time, so I am getting my money back. Anyway, I told her, don't do it. I am warning you. If you persist on breaking your word, you are going to lose.
The result: Every customer, she was working on. I would tell them to be care, because she might pick your pocket like mine. As a fellow traveler, it is up to you to believe it or not. Why would I lie to you? Anyway, why take a chance when there are so many other girls, who would not do this? She was asking me Why do you do this? I told her that she would lose. Anyway, she got banned in LA Cafe, because LA Cafe don't want these type of girl around ripping off the customers. Of course, eventually, she got back in. I learn how to do this from the foreigner, who live in Manila, and know the management.
So, guys if someone picks your pocket, just make the girls life miserable.
It is not the money, guy, it is the principal. Yes, they don't have money, but if they deliver the product, they will be reward without no problem. We are not here for charity, maybe some of you are, since you are only here for a couple of days. I stay for at least a month, so I don't need this Bullshit!
A,
An easier way is:
Roxas blvd to Pedro Gil, then Left into Mabini, another left at R. Salas to Del Pilar, and at the corner is LA Cafe.
Places to stay:
All along Pedro Gil, and Mabini 400 ps - 1500 ps. Go no further than Gen Malvar.
On the next block, you can go to Club Havana, Bedrock, Tia Maria, and many clubs that the locals hangout. Not much SW, but beware of the billyboy, or ladyboy. Believe me, they look good there.
The place you are talking about is on Padres Farve, I forgot the name. Some of the girls in LA Cafe goes there, bec. Less competition. I know, bec. I know some of the girls there, and was surprise to see them there.
Jurassic is now across the street from LA Cafe. Someone told me that you have to bar fine these girls.
On Taxis: My friend, who is a local, and will travel to all areas including ghetto areas. Told me to beware when riding taxis at night. He told me to look at the drivers, and make judgment. In other words, it can be dangerous.
We, on the hand, ride the green/yellow taxis, bec. our good friend own them. This is not to say that the driver is not a crook either. My gf, who lives in Manila, at times have problems with the driver too.
Spidey,
On taxi safety. I don't want to sound like I think I'm some big bad ass, I'm not. But, if I'm with a driver that seems "iffy" I pull out my knife (in a non threatening manner) so he can see it, and say with a smile, "if anything hapens, I hurt you first". It has gotten a smile and a "no problem sir" in that tone and cadence we all know.
I've only done this three times and it was when the driver started taking a lot of back road short cuts that I was unfamiliar with. Three may sound like a lot, but I lived there for almost a year and took a lot of taxis.
FD
FD,
Whatever way to keep you safe. You know, their favor line. "Traffic" when there really isn't. Instead, of the knife trick, just get another cab, and refuse to pay, or 10-20 pesos to the last F**k up driver.
Sometime, I will ask a taxi, how much it cost to get to my destination,and he will tell me a price that is high, and I tell him "What!" Naah, it cost only this much to get there, cut the bullshit. And look for the next cab. Usually, get a meter cab. At night, I am a little more cautious.
I try to take taxi, when I am in a rush, or can't get to a certain place. Most of the time, it is jeepneys, and buses. I might get my own gas scooter to get around. Save on time!
Spidey,
A scooter is a good investment when trying to save time on short trips.Make sure you invest in a good lock or two for that scooter. I went to Greenhills/Virra Mall for some shopping and then came out with my scooter gone. It had a lock, too. Now, I have a nice Kryptonite cable snake lock and a couple of disc brake locks. So far, it held. One more thing, a helmet is a must. For that other head. ;)
I hear a lot of you guys saying that LA Cafe is a gold mine while others says a dump with nasty girls. Why not just post a few pics of the girls that you have picked up from LA Cafe and let the board be the judge be if the talent is worth the price of admission. BTW. I'm planning to go to the philippines the end of the year, I'm really surprise that there are so many of you have been there but so few have posted pics. Furthermore I haven't really seen what i would consider 7 or 8+ photo's. The thai boards have some really cute girls. This is just an observation of course.
I hope this is still not boring but following is some more update about L.A.Cafe and surrounding areas:
Found a very cute princess. Quiet, little girl, apart from the crowds. The story was that she is from some village, occasionally coming to town to sell some fruit and to buy supplies so didn't know anyone there. No smoking, no alcohol, no tattoos. But very sweet, soft, affectionate. Chatted a while, danced a bit then I was about to leave as had an early flight the next day. She asked if she could come with me. Ah well, I had no objections, although wasn't really in there to pick-up a girl but rather just to drink. I was also unshaven and in my sweaty day-shirt and not very romantic looking at all. Walked 10 minutes to the hotel. Upon entering the room, we literally tore the clothes off each other and had a quick bang in about ten minutes, still unwashed. Then shower together, brushing teeth, etc. Good-night kiss. Lights off. Cuddling up in the dark led to another much more lenghty session. The first one was for me. This second one for her. We slept cuddled up in each other's arms. (Woke up a few times, as she turned).
Wake-up call from reception at 5am. Ordered breakfast to the room. Getting dressed, packing, etc. Not one word about money was mentioned up to that point. I took out 1000 pesos and gave it to her. She just said "thank you" and took it. I asked if it was enough and the answer was "yes". Could have had it for "FREE", I guess, but what's the point? Glory for me? Life is not so easy in rural PI and every peso helps. Also, after receiving the money she stopped askig about my email address. It was just business from then on. There was still half an hour before the taxi was booked. She was naked and sitting in my lap. What do you do with a naked woman sitting in your lap? So, I just had to band her again. Shower one more time, racing to get dressed. Kiss, kiss.
"Never see you again?"
"Well, who knows?" (didn't exchange contacts).
I gave her another 400 pesos and got in the taxi. Hard life. I fell in love again. At least for another day or two.
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LA CAfe:
Down stairs is crap. Just loads of aggressice hardened pros keep pestering you. Upstairs is where it all happens, after 9PM or so.
Apart from the "working-ladies", the little waitresses are very cute too. But they of course cannot go with you. Nevertheless they seem very keen to flirt.
The company that runs the place has an amazingly ingenious employment policy. Wait staff are employed on 3 month non-extendable contracts. After their term expires, they have to go. No negotiations. Several of the girls near the end of their contracts indicated their interest to hook-up with foreigners. Here is an opportunity for some handsome guys.
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Just a few steps further down the same street there is a Japanese Karaoke place called "HIMBA MUSIC LOUNGE".
Of course not much singing goin on. There are bilingual English/Jap signs so it is easy to find.
They have a couple of girls all the time but after 7PM there about 20 or more. Most are not very pretty but a few are. They speak English as well as Japanese and accept any nationality not only Japs. You have to barfine the girls (1000 or 1500 pesos for the night). Plus you have to pay the girl also.
No rooms on site but they know a short time motel nearby for 400pesos/3hours. The bosses' names are Dodong and Elmer and usually someone sits on the street to invite punters in.
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The other similar sort of cafe near LA. is the G.POINT BAR, on Padre Faura Street (just 5 mins walk to NW). The waitresses wear a different "theme-uniform", each day, like camouflage, nurse, western, etc. The place is really tiny but they have a band at night. Met a cute, tall very black girl there during the day but I just wasn't in the mood to boom-boom. Also there are a lot of familiar faces from LA. She said ST was 1000-1500 pesos and LT 1500-2000 with her.
Correct address is 510 Padre Faura Street, Ermita, Manila.
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[b]Pimpster[/b]
Quote:[i] 04/25/04 “I Heard a lot of you guys saying that LA Cafe is a gold mine while others says a dump with nasty girls. Why not just post a few pics of the girls that you have picked up from LA Cafe and let the board be the judge?”[/i]
Pimpster, my sentiments exactly….somehow the apparent lack of photos to support this place, speaks volumes about many of their claims.
Hey guys,
I just spent several days in Manila and because of so much talk about LA cafe, I made it a point to stop in and see what was going on. The first night I stopped in about 9:30pm and walked around the lower level to see the layout. This was a Wednesday night and the place was full. I then worked my way upstairs and saw that the quality of the ladies upstairs was better than the lower level. The ladies do have to pay to get to the 2nd floor. I spent about 1 hour walking around, sitting at the bar, chatting it up with some of the ladies and I've got to tell you that it was a nice time. The ladies I approached were all nice. Some were seasoned and it was obvious that they spent a lot of time at LA Cafe, but I met several younger ladies that spoke limited english, and had just come in from the provence. I eventually worked my way over to a young legal age spinner. She was cute as could be, and she was hanging out with some of the more regular girls. Long story short, she came back to the hotel with me and we had a great night. When she left in the morning it was sad to say goodbye. During this visit to LA Cafe, I didn't see any 10's, but it is a fun and relaxing place and you make it what you want it to be. Hey, even if you don't find someone you want to hook up with, at least you had the chance to have a nice cold San Miguel.
Well folks LA cafe was way too overwhelming for me this past Friday night. I didn't even have a beer a in my hands and had already said no 100 times. Most were not for me. OK, all were not for me. My driver from the hotel was with me and suggested we go to a fishbowl type place and we did. Sorry LA Cafe fans but it wasn't for me too many uglies/oldies, definitely no 9's or 10's.
So we went to the "house" I picked the cutest I could find. Cost me 3500 pesos for the whole night. I wasn't disappointed.
I went back for 5 straight nights. I don't know the address but it was in Makati. Sorry guys but the talent in this place was outstanding. One night had 2 girls for 6500. AMAZING! They just happened to be cousins. WTF?? Anyway, I now can't wait until next October when I go Back to the Phil's. I've been spoiled.
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Just warning everyone that ther elections are comming up on May 10, so becareful out there.
Crossman,
Wow, you really paid p3500 in the Philippines? You could have gotten 3 for that price.
I really get so sad when I hear of foolish people overpaying for action. It proves they are foolish and ruins the market for others. DO NOT OVERPAY, IT IS A BUSINESS! Remember, the more you save the more you can get!!
Check the market prices first, just like anything else. In fact when girls get home they actually laugh at guys who are over payers. So would a bus conductor if paid 1000P for a local bus ticket!!
Appreciate the tip will be in the Philippines in July and read in previous reports 1000 p's could get me whatever I wanted in general is this true? Appreciate any tips.
TP
Oh well. Sorry guys. I had fun for my first time to Manila, and I'm the one who is laughing!
To Rio and Fast:
1. I had big fun.
2. I'm a newbie to the Phil's
3. I had really big fun.
4. I listened to the only person I knew in the Phil's.
5. I played until I could play no more.
6. I will do it differently next time.
7. I will find someone to drive me around as I am not comfortable doing the town on my own.
8. I had loads of fun.
Sorry I ruined it for some. I will always compare to Tijuana and the US since this is where my punting has ocurred and therefore my payscale was derived from. $65 for the whole night for a 9 or 10 is worth it to me. English speaking and a knockout was worth it to me.
Many thanks,
Cross
Crossman,
First we are not flaming you, ok? I do understand this was your first time and you had a blast, that is what its all about. This is just constructive critisizm. We just want you to know what the local cost is there. As we say, when in Rome do as the Romans. You can get 8's & 9's for p1000 to p1500, with no barfine. If you must have a 10 then please, pay no more than p2000 tops. they will take it, trust me.
Yes I do understand your TJ and US experiences, I have been going to TJ for 12 years, Adelita's for sure. This is not TJ and we can't really treat it that way cause its all we know. I understand it was worth it to you, but think of the other guy is what we all we asking.
Hey you had a great time, thats what its all about isn't it? But we just ask you to keep the prices down. I know you will next time I can tell by your explanation. Take care, and keep the reports going.
Rio
Rio, Fast,
I think your concern is unfounded. I can tell you why. Most of the mongering money in the Philippines doesn't come from mongers coming from North America or Europe but from Japan, Korea and Taiwan. I'm sorry but the generous mongers are the Japanese. A Japanese is more likely to have frequented a casa, MP or KTV even before a North American or European would. And mind you, the money involved exceeds what a North American or European would normally pay. The Asian demand determines the price not the North American or European demand. Now, do these mongers think they get value from it? Of course, yes. Coz they are paying much less from what they are accustomed to back in their own countries. Do you know how much a typical all-nighter in Japan is worth? Definitely, way more than in North America. Anyways, Crossman only overpaid a measly $20 from the going rate of a Makati casa girl. I doubt if Crossman really ruined the "playground" for everybody. I think his story deserves an applause. That's glitch-free mongering in my book.
I wouldn't mind paying 3000 for quality, a lot of you guys talk about 500, 1000, or 1500, but the pictures of 500, 1000, or 1500 girls aren't my type. Its like buying a car, you expect to pay a lot more for a BMW than a KIA simple as that. However if these guys are paying 3000 for a chick thats a 5 or a 6 then there crazy!
I didn't think I was being flamed. So I am not offended. For me time is money. If I can remove any wasting of time and give someone a little more money to provide me with exactly what I'm looking for and at the instant I want it, it sure is worth it to me. Plus I hate saying no. In a bar scene I get a little overwhelmed and start to feel bad for all those I reject. Anyhow, I loved the Phil's and will be going back at least twice per year as long as I keep my current clients, which will probably be a long time. Makati casa girls rule!
Crossman,
Glad you had fun in PI. Great report. No apologies needed.
Let Cross be the judge if he overpays or not. I think the purpose of this board is “To facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women”. I don’t think it’s any of our business to judge a person’s report simply because we didn’t like the way he spent his money on women. Finance is only a part of this hobby. Some people think $1000 is too much money to spend on women, some don’t. Again, whether I pay $10 to get laid or $1000 is my own choice. Let’s not concentrate too much on it because each monger is responsible on how he spends his money. The big picture here is that he spent time to share his experience with us.
SC
Santaclaus,
I have to disagree with you just a bit. When the newbie's come to another country and overspend, it hurts the rest of us.
On my last trip to the PI, I had my hotel driver take me to a "casa" to see what they had to offer. Some of the girls were gourgeous, but I knew what the going rate is based on the postings here on the board. The papasan wanted to charge me P$4000 for an all nighter with a girl. I told him that wouldn't work and dropped it further. He wouldn't budge under P$2500 and I told my driver to let's go. The driver later told me that because I was a tourist, they feel I will pay anything for the company of a lady. I ended up meeting someone at Robinson's Mall in Ermita and had the time of my life with a girl just as pretty for a lot less.
I hope not to get in a flame war, and just want to post a dissenting opinion.
The teddybear
Master and Santa,
Thank you!
Crossman:
Good report. I personally don't think you over paid more than PhP500 if that. Even with what you paid it's a bargain, and it's far cheaper than what a night on P. Purgos street would have cost you, including the ladies drinks, bar fines, and other miscellaneous hassles like demands for food.
Next time you come to the PI, try some other cities. You might like Cebu, Angeles City or Davao even better than you like Makati.
Thanks for sharing the experience.
Pimpster: I am tired of writing about the LA Cafe, but I will tell you that the quality of the girls on any given night is largely a factor of luck, timing, and day of the week. I struck out there twice in the past couple of months and the last time I was there met a truly pretty woman. It was a week night, and only about 10 in the evening. You will always find tons of women there. Whether you find one that appeals to you is another matter.
GE
can anyone recommend a modest guest friendly hotel convenient for LA Cafe?
thanks
The Swagman is close to the LA Cafe.
Prices are around 1300php I believe thats including pick up from the airport.
http://www.swaggy.com
Have Fun
Teddybr,
There is a big difference between a "con job" and plain "overpricing". It appears that you did not detect that a con job was being done on you by the cab driver and the casa operator when $4K was quoted to you for an all-nighter. I'm sure their prices dropped to 2.5K pesos when the old-timer monger arrived. Surely, you did not prove your point.
MasterBlaster
I have a retired Motorola nexus phone that uses a Sim card. Do you know if this would be compatible with the cell phone cards in PI? Are all SIM type cell phones compatible with all cards? I can probably haul it along just in case.
I will post this in a couple other forums so please forgive me if you get tired of seeing it.
Hi,
Your phone will work if it supports the GSM 900 or GSM 1800 MHZ frequencies.
A good resource I use is here:
http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/index.shtml
You can see under each country, the networks that are live, and if you click 'network info', you can see which frequencies they support. You can cross reference the network you purchased the phone from, vs. the network/country you will be visiting. If they support the same network frequencies, your phone will probably work.
The newer phones are dualband/triband, so they will automatically work on all networks.
Have fun in PI.
I use a tri-band phone, which is very compatiable to almost any phone, and I am using it in the states.
You need a dual-band at the least. If not, just buy one. It will cost around 100 USD, or 4,500-7,000 ps for one. You can buy a use one, which is cheaper. When you are done, you can give it to the girl, if you like.
Trust me, if you stay longer enough in the P.I., a cellphone is a necessitiy, b/c you can't use a regular phone to call anyone, except in your hotel (Cost you more), or someone with long distance set up.
J Boy,
First the phone should be tri-band frequency or considered "world phone" before it can work in PI. The phone should also be "unlocked" before it can accept SIM cards from other mobile service providers. When a mobile phone is "locked" it will only accept SIM cards coming from the mobile service provider that sold you the phone. Instead of taking a risk, you can buy a cheap mobile phone with a SIM card from the PI for about $60. Pick the SMART or GLOBE mobile service provider for better coverage.
Buy a Globe starter pack. It will cost you PhP200 (less than $4) and will include 30 free minutes or so. You can buy recharge cards from Php100-Php500 pesos. Most of the women you will meet here will have cell phones, all who have cell phones will give you their numbers and will want yours. The few who do not have phones will ask if you will buy one for them. They will then start sending you text messages on a regular basis, which you can either ignore or to which you can respond. Either way, it's vital to have a cell phone here. I too have a triband phone and use it world wide. However, you can buy a used cell phone here in any mall for $40-$60 and it will work perfectly.
GE,
One thing you forgot to tell about the irriating habits of texting, which I think is very rude while eating, like talking in a restaurant at times (even I am guilty of this!). Yes, I know it is cheap to call, but everyone that I know wants to save, so they all text, even the ones with money.
Sory about that. I should have told you that the Philippines is the text messaging capitol of the world. Filipinos text 24/7 and will bug the crap out of you all the time once they get your number. It's just something with which you have to cope. Of course, you don't have to respond and after a while the girls will get bored and it will cease.
I've never been to the PI before and I've got a 5 hour layover in Manila airport (3pm until 8pm). I am arriving from HKG and flying to Australia.
Any suggestions as to what to do? How much?
Thank you!
Yellow Fever,
If you have 5 hours its best to just stay in the airport. When I flow out of Manila it took at least an hour to just get to the gate because there are so many check points. But if you must leave the airport, I was reading about a club close to the airport that gives massages and the theme of the place is like a airport. There is a picture and discription of the place in the Manila section.
For a short time you got your best bet is a massaga parlor. Ask the cab driver to take you to the nearest one. Prices may range fro 500-1000 for hj and up to 2000 pesos for fs.
Faust Joe,
I must leave the airport and get my 'fix'. I changed my flight and I arrive a little earlier at 1pm so I have nearly 7 hours to explore.
I will take care and be at the airport a little earl to clear the control checkpoints...
Thanks for your help.
Hi guys,
I'll be in the PI for a wedding in July, for one of my good friend's wedding. Anyway I plan to give him a great bachellors party. Any suggestions where i can get a good number of girls for a decent rate. Is JR worth it? Does anyone have experience in this area? I used to live in the PI, so i have some contacts.
Thanks
amboy
Hi Amboy,
With regards your query about JR. I have used and recommended him many times. I will also be in Manila in July so let me know if you wanna meet up for a beer. I always stay in Heritage Hotel. I have already been in touch with JR recently to set some things up. Best get him to take you out to the casas then you can choose yourself. If you tell him what you want and get him to bring a selection to your room then he just goes to the casas to pick them up. Be careful what you ask for in that case. Remember, a "small" girl by Philippine standards can be a midget! So careful what you ask for :)
The Flying Scotsman
BTW amboy,
I'm sure you will get a discount for more girls.:) the casas are very flexible. Have fun.
I'll be taking my first trip to The Philippines in a few weeks, can anyone recommend a good hotel (reasonably priced), regarding its location and being girl friendly? I didn't see any mention of hotels in the forum (but lots about the LA Cafe).
I'm asking mainly about Manila, but will also be in Cebu and Davao.
Needsome
try asiatravel
http://www.asiatravel.com/manila.html
and choose the area where you like to stay
Makati - (Burgos)
Roxas Blv. (Pasay Complex & other bars)
Malate (LA Cafe)
I called JR last week to see what what he could find for me. He took me to 3 dorms where the girls stay waiting for their visas to be approved for work in Japan. The first dorm had the most girls, about 30, the next two had between fifteen and twenty. I waited until I saw all the girls in all three dorms before I made my choice. I finally chose a 22 year old cutie from Cebu. The cost was 3k pesos which I paid to the mamasan, plus I gave 500 pesos for driving me there and back to the Oxford Suites. Her name was Muppet I think. Well she gave me an excellent bbbj and fucked me excellent as well allowing me to bang her bareback as I hate fucking condoms. What baffled me was that she wanted to go after staying with me for only two hours. JR said that if I wanted to go back to the dorm and get another I would only have to pay another 1000 pesos. Instead of going back to the dorm I barfined an old flame from the Ivory who did stay with me all night. It was a little expensive though, 3k pesos barfine and 2k for her. Compared to the rateras in Juarez that want $50 for a half an hour of lousy sex it was worth it.
Thanks Flying Scotsman,
Ill definately try JR out for a "test-drive" before I use him for a bachelor's party. Btw how are the quality of the dorm-girls. Just wondering. Ill be there for a month so i might hit you up for that beer. I guess just PM me.
Happy hunting guys,
Amboy
pimelonman said, "It was a little expensive though, 3k pesos barfine and 2k for her. Compared to the rateras in Juarez that want $50 for a half an hour of lousy sex it was worth it".
Rateras in Juarez. How dare you say that. Lousy sex for 50 bucks. How dare you say that. I say this all in jest man. You know that. So you are in the PI? No wonder I haven't seen MariLu around. You took her with you. And this must also explain the why you missed the Mongerpalozza.
I kind of freaked out the evening of the Mongerpalozza. Pancho at Queens told me no one had seen MariLu since the evening I took her out 2 weeks earlier. Man, trust me, a guy doesn't want to be known as the "last guy seen with a chica", especially with all the murders down there. But to end the story on a good note, she has been seen around lately. When you get back go check out Yessenia, a new chica at Queens. A tall, creamy skinned, dark haired beauty will be a fresh change from banging them PI chicas.
Now what is a Juarez post doing in the Manila section? Let me make this a relevant post. I have been reading up on you guys posts here for the last month and I am intrigued. A trip the the PI seems more realistic than my dream vacation to Brazil. My job and displine suck and it may take several years till I get to save enought to go to the PI. I have set up a "beggars" group in Yahoo. We will see how that goes. What I figure is it will be best for me to take a 2 week vacation. I havent decided on Manila or Angeles City so I may do both. But then there are other cities like Cebu and Davao and they sound equally delicious.
So now let me step aside and let you guys continue with the real PI posts.
The Filthy One
Amboy812,
IMO only about 10% of the dorm girls were worth taking out. The other 90% looked like they belonged in Angeles.
Needsome,
In Makati I like Robelle House on Valdez St, walking distance from the 50 Clubs on Burgos St. Has an openair bar just 100 ft from it on the Street that gets ladies. Stays open until 03: 00AM. Around the corner about 100 ft is a karaoke place also open late with women.
Nicest place is Shangri La (also most expensive). Gets women in the bar. There are 3 Hotels in Burgos St and I tried all at one time or another and they are okay. Right where everything is.
Read back a bit and there are many Posts here on Hotels near LA Cafe. I never tried any though. I like Manila Hotel which at $ 89/Nt is nice for this famous, old landmark of Manila (soon to celebrate 100th B/D). Never found a Hotel in 15 years that was not girl friendly.
CEBU: My favorite Hotels after 60+ trips there over 15 years are Metropolis Court Hotel (V Rama Av, Guadalupe), Cebu Midtown Hotel (Fuente Osmena & walking distance to dozen Clubs). Read my January Posts in Cebu for more.
DAVAO: Marco Polo, APO View & Casa Leticia. Just read our (GE & DS) 200+ Posts in Davao and you will be able to walk through there blindfolded.
I just returned from three weeks in Manila, Cebu & Davao plus HK. PM me for phone numbers, pussy whatever (everyone else does; got a message my PM folder was full this morning).
Dragon Slayer
Another Phillipine export then. Angeles to Tokyo via Manila dorm. Do the japs really go for that or is it the expat Americans fueling the demand?
Mugroso:
If you're on a tight budget, I would recommend that you completely avoid Manila and go to one of the lesser expensive cities. Read one of my earlier posts on Davao in which I describe a small hotel, in the middle of all the action, where you can get a room for as little as PhP300 ($5.50) a night. During his last trip the Dragon Slayer calculated that you could actually live well in Davao, getting laid and getting fed, for about $25 a day, and it's true. Slayer, why don't you do a post that includes those calculations. I would do it, but I don't really remember all of the numbers, and your posts are funnier than mine at any rate. Remember the small hotel called Larous Pension right across the street from O'Flannagan's? The rooms are 300, 500 and 800 a night. The three hotels Dragon Slayer cites in his post are much pricier. I don't much like the Apo View for the rooms and facilities, but it does have Liquid which is one of the nicest bars in town and the only one I know of in which you can smoke. Entrance fee is PhP150, for which you get tickets you can use for drinks. Not a great pick up place but a good place to go with a lady if you want to impress her a bit.
Pimelonman,
"The other 90% looked like they belonged in Angeles." Is that a bad thing? I spend more time in Angeles now than in Manila. Many more hotties and cost a lot less. But like ive said so many times before on this board, its all a question of taste. Also I must say any time I have taken a girl from a casa and paid three thousand I have always had her for the night. But then I usually take the girl for dinner and drinks first and then back to hotel. At the end of the day its the girls choice so you gotta look after her.
Amboy812
Last time I went with JR round the casas I knew exactly what I was looking for. It was in the third one I found her. Maybe I'm getting fussy in my old age, who knows! Each casa generally has 10 to 30 girls so you really should be able to find something you like :)
Look after JR and I promise he will get the best deals for you. He always has for me. Happy Hunting guys.
The Flying Scotsman
Amboy812,
I suggest that you pick up the girls early at 7 pm. Otherwise, you will end up with a less attractive lineup. The girl's beauty rate 3 - 9 (mostly below 6); attitude 1 - 10. One dorm (casa) is on the corner of Casino and Bautista. I'll suggest one excellent girl; her name is Bhey. I don't know if she is still there since almost all are bound for Japan. Just ask. There are two more dorms around that area. The rate is 2.5K - 3K for an all-nighter. Skip JRs independent girls as they are too pricey and the quality isn't any better than the dorm girls. Talk to the girl before taking them out just to know if they have the right attitude. Sit down and look in the girls eyes coz you will find out who is "game" and who is not; I'm sure you don't want to pick a lousy one. These girls will try everything to get picked since not all nights are good for them. Ask questions to the mamasan. Try to get a discount too if are picking 2 or more; believe me it works. Hope this helps.
MasterBlaster
Ok - I will answer my own question about Baggio for anyone interested in action. I really don't have much to report except for the massage place. Most taxi drivers know of these. They are in the heart of the city. I cannot remember the name but it also had a club attached to it right next door. Walking distance to the KFC just about a block up on the cross street.
Massage about 350 peso - girls fee about 1000. She was a 7 or 8 about 21 tight figure. Poor performance...no touching, no bj or nothing. Just basically do the deed. I think her name was Jewel or something like that. Also the place is really dungy looking. I guess I dont recommend it.
Hank
Dragon Slayer,
I'd like to reply to you, but your mailbox is full. Please clean it up or PM me your email address.
I have never "played" in Manila but I was there for only a few hours and decided to try. As I have been reading this board for a while and very much enjoy quality I figured I would either try P. Burgos Street or one of the up market Massage Parlours.
As I only had a short time I decided on Air Force One; mostly due to Junior's posting and a brief discussion I had with him a few months back. And thanks again Junior as I very much appreciate your help.
So I took a taxi to Air Force One and went in. It was probably around 5pm and not very busy. I told the guy I was new and really did not know how it worked. He said it is simple just choose who you want and he proceeded to opened a curtain and through a window you could see all the girls. I was so amazed and am still a little numb from the experience. As Junior said try the two girls I chose two girls.
I then paid for the room and went with the first class service; which was for two hours and think it was only 2,600 pesos for the room. And then you negotiate separately with the girls.
They took me to the room and soon thereafter the two girls arrived. One was quite pretty and the other was cute and a bit chubby. They were both nice and both had C section scars. Both were a bit busty.
Anyways, it was a nice relaxing service. They pamper you with some time in a jacuzzi, then a pretty good massage and then onto some private fun. You can have a round with each girl but I only did it with one of the girls. It is a bit professional, CBJ, no kissing but nice just the same.
[b]Desert[/b]
Happy to oblige – its great that you had a good time; that’s what we’re all here for to share information and have a good time.
Whats happening in Manila guys, is no one there? Has the place dried up? Anyway, another two weeks and I'll be back there myself. Anyone with any interesting new places to visit?
The Flying Scotsman
Anybody have info, directions on the new bar complex near the airport in Manila? I hear there are four or five new bars similar to what they have at the Edsa complex.
There are now about eight to ten new go-go bars across from the Domestic airport. I was there one week ago. Complex is all new construction, very clean. Ladies and drinks priced about the same as EDSA. However, very few mongers to compete with.
Hi. This is my first post to the Philippine section. I visited Manila early last May to attend a friend's wedding, and decided to check out the local mongering scene. I was able to find this place called the Skyline Health Club, and I'd like to thank the poster who gave directions on how to get there, because I really had a great time.
The establishment itself is on the 8th floor of the Grand Boulevard Hotel. I guess the set-up of the Skyline is similar to other similar establishments in Manila. You first pay a fee to the Health Club, and then you'll be taken to a room where the girls line up for you to pick. Not sure if the window is one-way or two-way.
The girls are all dressed in short bathrobes, and either wore push-up bras or are really stacked for their size. From what I've been told, Skyline operates 24 hours/day, so it looked like my selection at the time were girls around 5'6" and below.
I picked a girl which the management claimed to be "new" (i.e., working there for 3 months). Her "ID number" is QQ, and she calls herself Gem. My luck with working girls has been pretty spotty; but Gem was definitely a treat. She became a maneater once we got down to business!
She teased - and I mean teased - me, slowly petting her way up my legs. Nibbling the skin on my knees, thighs, and hips. She came up and licked my nipples, then took her time working her way down to my dick. I was so ready I nearly came in her mouth when she finally went down on me. And I didn't even notice her put the condom in her mouth until she raised her head.
I don't think I lasted two minutes with her, but I don't regret it, because Gem blew my mind. I heartily recommend her skills to get a guy going.
I went back to the place before I left Manila for one more round, but Gem was already taken. I wound up doing her COUSIN. Don't quite remember her number - P, I believe - but she calls herself Sugar. According to them, Gem started working there 3 months ago after previously being employed in a Kenny Rogers chicken joint. Then she brought Sugar in. Not sure if that's true, but talk about keeping it in the family.
Sugar is not as skilled as Gem. I didn't know what kind of service to expect from the Skyline the first time I tried it, so number QQ really blew me away (in more ways than one). I guess I was a little more prepared with Sugar, though I still had fun.
The Skyline has a fee of less P2,000, but they charge lower before 6pm. Afterwards, you have to negotiate with the girls. Not sure how far down you can go; the earlier tips about the girls settling for P1,000 no longer seem to apply - I paid Gem and Sugar P1,500 each the two times I was there. But that was haggled down from P2,000. And you get a complimentary drink, plus a semi-legit (if short) massage to go with the sex. I believe the price tag would be around USD50, give or take a few greenbacks. I'll admit it may be overpriced, but it's worth it.
The next time I'm in town I'm going to try Airforce 1. :p
Dodgy Fellow
QUOTE:
"I went back to the place before I left Manila for one more round, but Gem was already taken. I wound up doing her COUSIN. Don't quite remember her number - P, I believe - but she calls herself Sugar. According to them, Gem started working there 3 months ago after previously being employed in a Kenny Rogers chicken joint. Then she brought Sugar in. Not sure if that's true, but talk about keeping it in the family."
In the Philippines the girl's friend is always her "cousin".
I may be going to Manilia for a visa change this weekend. I am looking at arriving on sat and leaving on sun. Can someone post a good, reasonably priced hotel that is near EDSA. This is my first trip to PI for mongering and want to do as much as possible in the short time I will be there. EDSA seems to be a good mix of freelancers and bar girls, from what I have read here. Any help and contact phone numbers on the hotel would be great. Also, how much I pay these girls? I plan to have 400
Niles QP:
Given that you're only going to be there one night, I would stay at the Heritage which is diagnolly across the street from EDSA. It's a five star hotel, but with a little negotiating, you can get a room for about $50 ++ which leaves you plenty of money for chasing women, and plenty of time because you can walk from the hotel to EDSA in less than 5 minutes.
OK gang, here we go. Give me the scoop.
I am entertaining the idea of traveling to the Philippines for a few weeks.
This will be my first time. Where are the recommended places for action.
What places are not recommended.
Cities? Hotels? Bars? MP's?
How much money is recommended to take along? Couple of grand U.S.? I want to do some SCUBA diving so include this into the recommended places.
Hotel rates? And any other info would be welcome.
Thanks all!
Niles QP,
As GoodEnough suggests, the Heritage is excellent value for money. I always stay there although very rarely visit the EDSA complex these days. You can book Heritage online at www.asiatravel.com which has the best rates. $60 at the moment.
My suggestion to anone new is use a guide to find your way around. Check out JR, cellphone 0917 414 5416. I always use him in Manila and he is honest and will find you what you want. You can either use him to tour clubs or just to take you to a casa to pick up a girl. Its much safer than trying to find your own way around. In Heritage you will have no problems taking girls back.
If you havent already done so, read back for the past few months and you will pick up a load of useful info from this board.
Happy hunting.
The Flying Scotsman
Scuba,
As per my previous post, check out asiatravel.com for accomodation deals. For more info on Phils just read back the past few months posts. You'll find everything you need.
TFS
IMO, never use a guide, unless you can't speak english well. Everybody in the PI speaks english for the most part especially if you are in Manila. You can find all the info there is on this board, there is no secret places that a guide can take you. Any taxi driver in Manila will know where to go, all the casas, all the clubs, etc. Why pay more and give the guy a commission when you can keep it for yourself. The so called non-pro's or college girls that the guides will bring are just Casa girls, so don't pay the commission. Sex is too easy to find in the PI, don't let someone mooch off you. The only real way to find a non-pro is to use the dating sites, that's it. Let's not be stupid and think a non pro will ever be brought by a guide. Every Casa is known by every taxi driver because they are suppose to get a cut, what you do is tell the Casa that you requested that you be brought there, especially if you have been there before. They should give you a discount since they will not be paying commission to the driver. Just tip the driver a 100p, more than enough.
I honestly believe that Manila is relatively safe, of course don't be stupid and use common sense. I travel alone throughout Manila, to Cebu, to Nueva Viscaya and I am not filipino and nobody ever hassled me. Just use common sense and since you speak English they won't mess with you. The people there are very kind for the most part.
I went to the PI for the first time 3 years ago, only armed with the info on this board and other places. In your first trip, you will pretty much know everything.
I've been back at least 10 times in the last 3 years and seen and done everything that was recommended on this board. I can honestly say that if you read this board, you'll know more places to go to monger than the guide so why pay him to just drive you around. If you really want a driver, you can hire a driver from a taxi company for half the price you will pay a "guide". When you walk out of the airport, you see all the taxi stands, just ask them their rate for being your driver, haggle, you will get a good deal, if you must have a driver, but honestly that is retarded because taking a taxi is easy, even if they don't turn on the meter, just get out and pay them what you are suppose to, I've never had one taxi driver complain because they know they are in the wrong for not turning on the meter. The police will be on your side if it comes down to it.
So my recommendation if you plan on going to the PI alone or for the first time, read this board and just go. Need to find a Casa, just ask any taxi driver, he will take you. Need to find the P. Buergos ask any taxi driver, need to find Edsa ask any taxi driver. Why pay a guide to take your money. If you really feel the need some help finding girls in the PI, you probably are too stupid to earn money so will probably not have enough to afford a plane ticket anyway.
Also, for the most part, it seems people are willing to meet up in the PI for a few beers. If a long time member with many posts says he is willing to meet up at say LA Cafe or wherever, go and have a beer, ask questions. But the best is to ask all the questions on this board.
Don't pay a guide, get more girls for your hard earned money.
Mook
Scuba:
Don't think you're going to find very good diving in and around the immediate vicinity of Manila. The water's too polluted with industrial and human waste. If you are really into diving, get well away from the metro area. There are dozens of sites. There's also good reef diving at Paradise Island, which is a ten minute boat ride from Davao, and it's easy to find equpment rentals and diving groups.
Scuba,
If you're trying to keep it close to Manila, Anilao (down near Batangas) is pretty good, especially if you like "muck diving". Be prepared for lots of litter.
But, as a first timer, I would recommend Sabang in Puerto Galrea.
Night life, very nice diving and an easy hit from Manila. Best way for the beginner (IMHO) is the "Si-kat" bus/ferry. I think they still run out of the City Tower in Ermita. One departure daily, 9:00 AM sharp. My favorite hotel in Sabang is the Atlantis. Pricey for some, $30 US to 70 US (for nice suites).
FD
Re Mookman post.
I only recommended a guide to newbies in Manila, and only a guide who is known and trusted by many members of this board. Even if you speak English some taxi drivers wil rip you off. I had a friend, who is an old asia hand, robbed last year in Manila by a taxi driver who pulled a gun on him ! OK, this is a very rare occurrence but it pays to be careful. Mookman has been travelling in Philippines for three years without trouble. I have been travelling in Philippines for 23 years without much trouble but I still recommend a guide for anyone new, until they find their way around. Everyone here has different advice and that is all it is, advice. So make up your own mind guys, but remember, when you walk out of a club at 3am in the morning, that its nice to have a face you now is trustworthy waiting for you.
The Flying Scotsman
Mookman. Most of what you say i agree with. I just think it pays to be careful when your new to a place.
Scuba
My case, I never bring more than 500 to the PI. There are ATMs, banks (though I don't know why but many won't take visa) that will take a few percents off your withdraws. It's worth it because you'll never know what will happen to cash. As for girls take a bus or cheap fly to Angeles City, 50 miles away, where everything concentrated in one place, no need for taxi (go to the AC forum and ask more detail questions if you need). From there, after all the fun, you can either go alone or bring your favorite bar girl to the Island of Boracay, where there are good beach, reef, food and hotels. As Mookman has mentioned, everyone speak English, easy to talk to and courteous, all you have to do is be the same in return but don't walk around looking like Bambi or flashy, just keep a low profile. Good luck bud.
I may be new to the board, here, but not to the PI as I've traveled there on several occasions to enjoy all the pleasures that the Manila Filipinas have to offer.
However, I'm going to be in Manila in 2 weeks, mid-day (noon-5pm), and for numerous reasons (mostly being with significant other), I'm going to be pinched for time. I'm staying at City Garden Hotel which is just a few blocks from Robinsons Mall (Glorietta?)
What I'm wondering is where can I go to find a selection of willing girls who, once one is chosen, will understand that I want to go immediately to a short-time hotel and get right to business? Is there someplace in the mall that cuties hang out, making themselves available?
Suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks!
I wish I would have known about this board before my first visit to the PI. I would have saved a lot of time and cash.
Nile QP
As previously suggested, the Heritage is the best choice if you're visiting the EDSA. It's right across the street. I've also stayed at the Hyatt on Roxas, which is right around. Heritage hands down. The other advantage to the Heritage is you won't need a taxi except to and from the airport.
I've heard the pros and cons of a tour guide. On my first visit I found the taxi drivers to be very frustrating to deal with. While they all speak English, many won't admit it. They are not always upfront with the cost. They also don't always take you where you want to go. Many get a cut to take you where they want you to go, so beware. I eventually found a tour guide at the EDSA who was more than willing to introduce me to her friends at the LA Cafe and in Makati. She didn't even mind if I did her friends infront of her. I love the PI.
Early
Si Kat now leaves earlier, I got to the city tower at 9am last week but it now leaves 8 am, 500 pesos inc ferry. I got a taxi to take me to Batangas 1500 pesos then ferry 120pesos straight to Sabang beach, ferry left around 11.30 am. Can recommend highly, lots of freelancers not too many punters, 4 go go bars, girl 1000pesos a night 500 bar fine. No trafffic, no scooters, great diving. I stayed in the Big Apple, air con room 1200pesos/night, no problem with having a friend. What a place Sabang is, relaxed, friendly, no hassle, get out of Manila and go there.
I lived in Asia for years and have been to dozens of countries, and Manila was the ONLY place I ever felt unsafe. It seemed like everyone was out to screw you.
I was also robbed by a taxi driver that worked for the damn hotel I was staying at. i reported him of course, but I bet he's still there anyway. After it happened to me, I started talking to people and it seems that it's not all that uncommon. I don't know about getting a "guide" but I sure wouldn't trust anyone there.
Angeles city was fine, and I didn't feel unsafe there. There were the occasional crooks that try to say they recognize you, or they were your driver on your last trip or something. Also, don't get a shoe shine there. They will take a razor to your shoe and try to charge you to repair it!
It appears to me the mood of the thread here is indirectly leaning toward a new-cummer to have a guide in Manila. So where and how do I go about finding one and how much appreciate any info fellas I will probably be ther in about a month.
TP
Joe B.
Thanks for the update on Si-kat.
To all,
Big Apple isn't bad, but try to get a room way in back, behind the pool. The front rooms can be noisy at all hours.
FD
Castle Rock
Where are you?
FS
T Poet:
In my opinion, if you read through these posts, you should not need a guide as everything you need to know is in here. If you still feel you need one, get the number of JR, who is the person that a lot of guys in this forum have used before. His number has been posted here severral times, some of them fairly recently. I have never used him, or anyone else, and I have never had a problem having a good time in Manila, but I do listen to what the guys here have to say and I usually follow the advice. I have never been sorry and it's not often been wrong.
Happy hunting!
GE
GoodEnough, you have written a post strongly advertising someone who you never used!!! Very Strange & Suspicious.
I have seen posts here that say that JR is just like any other taxi driver taking the foreigner on rounds and taking fat commissions.
I would suggest board readers should read the posts and make their own way. That way they would not get ripped off.
Fast piston
I first used JR after recommendation from this board and like many members have used his services and been VERY happy.!!
I have heard someone moaning about him (once) and he seemed like a total d**khead.!! I have also heard that JR was ripped off by some guys from this board who had used his services and then promised to meet him later and didnt show up.
At the end of the day this board is for information and advice but everyone should make up their own mind. Dont deride other peoples opinions because at the end of the day thats all they are - opinions.
Sure, JR takes his cut - do you expect a charity service ? This advice is for newbies who dont know their way around from a safety aspect because whaterver you believe, Manila after dark is not exactly a safe place, just like most capital cities in the world today.
Everyone to their own - happy mongering guys. Im back in Phils next week and although no stranger to Manila I will be using JR because he is useful to have around and knows how to find exactly what I want.
The Flying Scotsman
PS Fast Piston,
GoodEnough can make the recommendation because he is one of the most experienced guys on this board and he knows who to listen to. His opinions are highly regarded on this board as someone who knows what he is talking about.
FS
Fastpiston:
I believe I started my post by making the same point as you made, that anyone reading this board really doesn't need a guide. Also, I hardly "advertised" JR and said that I had never used him but that others had recommended him. I hardly think that was overselling the guy. That said, I completely agree with you that guides are not necessary, I am going to Manila this afternoon, and tonight I will probably go back, as usual to the LA Cafe to see what type of ladies are there this evening.
GE
Alright guys,
Let's kill the topic of the guides, both sides expressed their opinions, how about some post a review of JR then, someone who has actually used his services and how it is different from every other scam artist guide out there in the PI.
I'll put my money where my mouth is as the saying goes. I'll be in the PI around July 3-11 or so, if you need a guide of the PI, I'll do it for you but I'll charge you a can of SMB for my troubles, we can go to LA Cafe and see how ugly the girls are (disclaimer: for the most part at LA Cafe, same arguement as before). Check out the casas and things like that. Just drop me a PM.
Mook
I actually used JR 2 years ago and was not impressed with the quality. I tried his service just tot see if I'm missing anything.
I mentioned him to a buddy of mine and he tried him as well but could not get rid of him after that. Although, he was able to find a gem thru one of the casas that JR took him to.
Once you know the places to go to and comfortable with taking taxis, you don't really need a guide. Always make sure that the driver turn on his meter, if not get out and take another taxi. The doorman at my hotel always takes the license plate down for there record.
Also, just ask the hotel staff how long it will take by taxi to such place (trafiic included) the best route to take and again turn that meter on.
Just my two cents.
IB
hi to alll my fellow mongers out there.
i was just there in the pi and spent most of my time at speedys in ermita its a small but nice place alot of girls there i knew the manager there from a place i went to last year thats owned by the same owner and i got great service there just ask for kuya roger and tell him mike sent you and he will take care of you say hi too agnus for me ,if you go there have a good time i did.
i am presently in manila for a couple of days, staying at the nikko dusit. last night, a friend of mine and i walked to the hard rock cafe for dinner. we sat at the bar in the smoking section at the rear. there were several women rep001tered around the bar and at various tables, and we sat next to two of them. it took about 1 minute to engage them in conversation and another minute before the two of them told us they were "in business" and would like to go with us. we did not take advantage of the situation, and did not discuss price, but both women were good looking, pleasant, and eager to part with their cell phone numbers.
i had never eaten at the hard rock before, though i knew from prior posts here that it is a good pick up spot. i can confirm this. we were there from about 8:30 to 10 and there were at least a dozen women obviously trolling for men. the quality was not outstanding, but it was not bad either. i suspect that more women came later on as the place is open until 3 in the morning. all in all, not a bad place. it has a pleasant atmosphere, mediocre (and loud) live music, decent food and reasonable prices.
ge
Goodenough,
Would have been nice to know how much the girls where asking. Two girls we hooked up with at Cafe Havana in Greenbelt took us to Hard Rock and before you know where we were hanging with at least 8 girls 'in the business'. However, they were asking for 4-5K for a few hours. Needlees to say we just enjoyed our drinks and hanged out until closing time.
The two girls were kind of surprise that we did not want to take them home with us.
I will be in Manila this November, hope we can hook up for a few SMBs.
IB
Ilongo Boy:
Sorry, but we never got around to discussion of prices; a subject that generally turns me off anyway.
I went last night to LA Cafe for the first time in months. I got there about 10 and the pickings were sparse. Lots of women, but no one in whom I was at all interested. Things changed about 11 when the pace really picked up and several dozen women came in, among whom were 3 or 4 with whom I would have tried to establish a connection. I wound up with two girls, who said they were cousins, both from Mindanao. We drank, laughed a lot, and then went back to my hotel where we tumbled around naked for a long, long time. The girls were adorable, friendly and, most surprisingly, did not want any money except cab fare. I had a great time and met them in the upstairs bar. I have concluded that LA is strictly hit or miss. The last time I was there, I found no one interesting at all. I do not want to re-open the tired debate; just saying that I had a great time last night.
I stayed at the Nikko Dusit Hotel, which has a smoking lounge off the lobby. I went in there to use the wireless Internet connection, smoke, and have something to eat. I was surprised to have been hit on immediately by two women, neither of whom was particularly noteworthy. However, it does indicate that there are hookers patrolling the nooks and crannies of the 5 star Makati hotels. One of the women I met the night before at the Hard Rock told me that the bar at the Shangri La is a great pick up spot. I did not check it out, but given that she hangs out there, I would assume she was telling the truth.
GE
Good Enough,
I tried the Shangri La at happy hour. Dead. Try it late.
FD
Myself and a fellow monger picked up two girls around Havana in Greenbelt 3. Or should I say they picked us up.
We were hungry so we suggested that we go to Hard Rock. They were completely against this for some reason. We ended up at Fridays across from Hard Rock. Had some quick dinner and then went to the Shangri La. It was dead. It was about 10:30 PM to 11:00 PM. The two girls looked very nice but we could never get them to come clean on what we could expect. My girl just kept saying I could get a massage or a special massage. We finally gave up on them and said we had to meet another friend. It was mongering buddies Birthday so we headed to EDSA Entertainment Center and hooked up with some beauties there.
I had not been to EDSA for about 18 months. I must say that the talent level there has improved greatly. With the lower cost compared to P. Burgos street I would strongly suggest a visit there for those in need.
On other matters, I find LA Cafe worth the trip. I have almost always been able to find decent to pretty girls there ready for action.
I also visited Hard Rock Cafe numerous times and the only girls worth any attention usually came in with a guy already. The free lancers I saw there were mostly over weight and ugly or pass their prime.
Just my observations.
Some pictures to follow
Last time I was in LA Cafe at midnight I sat by a girl who was really fed up she had no strikes so far. After no luck from me, she cleared off saying she was off to the ShangriLa bar to see if she better luck there. I also recognized an LA Cafe girl sitting at the bar at TGIF Glorietta. The girls move around, just as we do!
I was surfing the net and came across an article that mentioned Manila as 138 out of 144 as the most expensives cities in the world. Buenos Aires I believe was 144 with Toyko , London and Moscow ranking from first to third in that order. My question, is has anyone noticed Manila being an expensive city? I know Manila is more expensive then AC or any other part of the Philippines.
Faust,
Being a foreigner living and working in the Philippines for the last five going on six years, yeah, I've notice that things have gone up in price. Gas (per liter), airfare, groceries and other consumables have gone up. But, the women still cost the same, about P1,000. cover charges in some clubs have gone up as well. But it is hardly noticeable.
My dollars go a lot farther here than any other country (except maybe Vietnam, Laos or Cambodia) than HK, Tokyo or Beijing. Manila/Makati can be an expensive place to stayor visit. What else can you expect in a city where its 10,000 people per square kilometer. At least, the majority of the population can understand some english.
Just my opinion though.
PL
someone asked about where to go to find a girl for a short time, and one place is harrison plaza. its a mall on fb harrison st. just walk up to the 2nd floor, lean against the railing like you are just looking down on the shoppers, and someone will ask if you are looking for a girl. you will then have several girls around you, and you take your pick. just be careful, as some of the girls are obviously ****. they will know of a short time hotel nearby.
have fun, manila is a great place, but i prefer angeles city.
i disagree about harrison plaza, i've been there twice just for the heck of it since i read about it here. for one, you stick out a lot because this mall is a total locals mall. more of the low end stores so a little dirty surrounding, not as clean as say mega mall and mostly locals. i did not see one foreigner there in the 2 hours each time i spent there. there are girls on the rails on the 2nd floor but they are not good quality, they look like the rejects from a brothel. i would really suspect that these girls were kicked out of a brothel or ktv for having a std or something. so i warn you guys, i will make a bet that at least half the girls there have aids, no joke, just go there a see for yourself. also, a lot of the girls were not girls, they were lady boys so if the floats your boat. i did not see any girls that were **** at all. i walked around the whole upper floor, i did think that there might be a good deal for a cell phone at the used cell phone dealers upstairs.
mook
Making my first trip to Manila (Makati) in the last half of July. If anyone is interested in getting together and hitting some spots, send me a PM.
Spitfire
Mookman:
Just to let you know. Since most of my stay are for one month. I do go to Harrison Plaza to hang out with the local at Goldielocks, or by the korean restaurant on the second floor. We go there to look at all the action walking, or hanging out.
Most of the girls are of the low end. When they are done at HP, they will go to LA Cafe to look for business, and most of the girls I know live close to LA, in Ermita, or Pasay. That is to tell you what kind of girls LA Cafe attracts.
I digged up a handful of pics of the kind of girls (or better) I'd like to fuck down there. How much would I have to pay for one of these? If it's hard to give a concrete number, give me your best guess. And where would I find them? Bars?
http://www.teenfilipina.com/demopics/teen-filipina-1.jpg
http://www.teenfilipina.com/demopics/teen-filipina-11.jpg
http://www.teenfilipina.com/demopics/teen-filipina-13.jpg
http://www.teenfilipina.com/demopics/teen-filipina-15.jpg
V. N.
These are average to slightly above average girls. Your other questions, RTFF.
VN,
1. Read the Forum. Do a search if you have to.
2. Go to the Philippines. Go to the places you would like to visit based on your research on the Forum.
3. When you get there review your notes from your Fourm research
4. Use your big head as much as your little head. Or at least try to.
5. Have a blast, many of them. There are many girls to choose from of all types.
You will get the hang of it pretty fast. Just don't make the mistake that your a expert after the first few nights. The place can eat you up as well if your not careful with your money
FF
Flying Scotsman
I am still at home suffering the poor weather. Its been raining here far too much. The girlies are not coming out in there summer outfits yet!! Still planning my trip to PI. Will wait for your report and we must have a beer or two when you get back plus a visit to the usual places!
Castle Rock
Hello Guys.
I only spent one night in manila but nevertheless want to provide my feedback for others seeing as this forum has been such as great source of info for me.
We stayed at the Swagman Hotel, despite the negative comments by previous posters. The attraction was the free airport pickup and whilst it was well located for our needs and relatively inexpensive, i wouldnt stay there again. The rooms were a bit manky to say the least. My friend found the mother of all roaches in his room. As this was the first trip to the pi for both of us, both the airport pickup and the 'fly the bus' to angeles were the attractions of staying here.
Entertainment-wise, we envitably ended up at LA Cafe. Despite the mixed feelings about this place, i believe we must have arrived on the right night as the place was absolutely rocking. They had a dancing competition on and the girls were up for it. I walked out the door with a sexy little thing as did my friend.
My experience of the place is limited to this one night but i can only say that i was pleased enough to make this a definite venue for a future visit.
Got ripped off by a taxi driver on the way back to the hotel...i kinda new but was still disorientated about my surroundings what with it being my first few hours in an asian country. Furthermore, i had a few beers on board and the honey next to me was giving me some other pressing thoughts. I shouldnt have allowed this to happen - and it didnt for the rest of the trip - but even when your getting ripped off here, its just a couple of dollars. Nevertheless, watch out for this one and dont let it happen as a matter of principal.
Ok, that was my limited manila experience. I will be posting also in the ac section and will post ref. puerto galera.
With the rain and current local girlfriend out of town. I decided to use the moment to relieve some tension of inactivity. Went by LA Cafe but did not find anything that interested me. Mostly 6s and 7s. Checked out the other venues along the EDSA Complex but either the good girls were out or I was being picky. Headed for the Cowboy Bar & Grill for a bite to eat and that's where I spotted one of the waitresses that I knew before.
I told her I was free for the night and she said she gets off work at 1 am. Spent the next two hours enjoying dinner, my beer and the live band playing. Once she got off we headed to my place. Elena is a 22 y.o. part-time college student who worked at several restaurants and bars as a waitress. A cute typical pinay with a boying haircut. She rates as an 8 but is great in bed.
Once we got to my place she showered and quickly came out for me. We got it on the couch but she kept reminding me to slow down. She knew I was horny and I new she was feeling hot herself. She led me towards the window and let me do her from behind as she looked out from the 18th floor. I flipped on her back as she layed on the window sill seat. We were going rough and hard as she enjoyed the view. She even got so wet that she was dripping on the seat. She kept on cumming as well. She let me cum inside her.
As I rolled off her, she begun kissing me and removed my rubber from my now getting limp dick. She began licking my little buddy and begun sucking on him. Man, I was hurting but it felt so good to get hard again. She then pulled me up and took our next session in the the bedroom. I tried to fuck her again but I guess I spent my self too much. So she goes back to sucking me until I cum in her mouth. I think she swallowed because next thing I now she was talking to me with no difficulty. She goes to the bathroom to wash off and comes back smelling fresh. Her nice cool body felt good as I dozed off with her beside me.
This morning I woke up with her gone. She left me a note with her cellphone number and that she'll call me after class. I just got a text message from her saying that she's on her way to school and if we'd like to meet for lunch. I texted her back saying sure. Afterall, I still need to know what she wants as payment for the night. What a way to spend the 4th of July.
PL,
Lucky bastard. :)
It may be September before I can return.
FD
FD,
Don't worry, by September a lot of the college girls will be needing some extra cash to pay for their examinations or other school fees. Had to tag along with a local friend yesterday to the university belt area and UST. Man, my neck was turning left and right at all the cute college girls in their uniforms. Ha, ha, ha, it was just great looking and thinking at all the possibilities.
With my local pinay girlfriend not back until this weekend, I'm going to play around for awhile. The young college girl I did was hinting that she needed to get a TI-83 or TI-84 calculator for school. Just so happened to have one in my briefcase and I let her have it. Did her again last night after she did her homework. Girl is hot. Woke up again this morning and she was gone. Left me a note once more asking if we could go to the "movies" tonight.
I should get a couple more days out of her until my GF returns. Afterall, a TI-84 cost me $89.00 back home. Must cost less now and I can always use the one at work anyhow.
PL
Here are some field reports:
Went to Air Force One for a massage. Papasan offered me a twin flight for the price of one room, which means I need to tip the girls double for sextras. Chose 2 girls from Economy because there were many more choices there, but upgraded to Business Class room. One was more experienced (26), the other very new (18), just 2 months into this business and watched her friend for cues most of the time during the massage session - the worst massage I’ve ever had, by the way. After the massage I took turns on both for missionary, CBJ, and finally doggie. There was still 40 mins left, and they (led by the older one) started to shower and put on their clothes! Asked for a second round, and they insisted on increasing from P2,300 to P2,500 each. I agreed and we started all over again – these girls are so well trained that they started from the exact same positions as the first round! In the end it took a HJ from the more experienced one to get me off again. Total damage – P7,300. Now that I’ve tried the much vaunted Business class, next time I’ll just settle for the Economy class, especially if it’s going to be another twin flight!
The following night I went with some business associates to Infiniti Club along Roxas Boulevard, next to Trader’s Hotel. Rather good quality there, I have to say. I was told the VIP room was P4,000, girls’ time was P200/hr, and bar fine was P4,000. Apparently this is a discounted rate because those guys are regulars there. Brought a girl back to the room – she’s a dancer at the club, a stunning beauty if you ask me, and has a great svelte body – but resembled a dead fish once we were on the bed. Should have guessed as much – she wasn’t the cheery or talkative type compared to some of the lesser-looking ones, but nevertheless I gave some serious DATY as I was quite determined to make her wet, which she eventually did with some soft moaning and hip-thrusting. Had wanted to get her number, but after that performance – forget it.
After following the threads on the LA Cafe I had to visit it to see for my self.
Went there last night at 2030. Based on previous postings I expected to find it empty but was proven wrong. The place was full, standing room only and it was obivously happy hour.
Plenty of girls but none I would classify as good.
Went to EDSA complex after this. There it was the opposite, went to all the clubs and all were empty and stayed that way all night.
That had its ups and downs plenty of girls to choose from but also a lot of hassel from the girls looking to earn their money through ladies drinks.
Spoke with a number of mamasans and all said the same that business was bad and had been for weeks.
Ended up with a girl called Jane from Pit Stop. The usual P1000 bar fine and P2000 for the night. Very good GFE night a lack of punters does wonders for the attitude.
Stayed at the Westin Plaza no problems bringing a guest back.
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Wings2, I am not surprised EDSA is nearly empty. Regulars in the area head for the LA Cafe where there is no bar fine and girls very flexible on extras. The EDSA bar fine sounds standard, but 2000 for the night is high. With my type of mind, if I see an empty bar, I know the girls are quite desperate and would be happy with 500!
Hi there, thank you guys for useful info here and in other rooms.
I go to Manila soon, but have problems finding out what part of the city to stay & go (& come). And, it seems like La Cafe is a good place nowadays?
Usually my best experiences is with local guides who know the system and also "home girls". These guiedes get their refund from the girls and directly. Someone who have good experience from Manila ?
Please, can anybody recommend other nearby towns to visit? I have read Angeles is about 2 hours and 1500 Peso away. Seems reasonable to at least go there. More suggesions are welcomed.
BTW: Yeah, I will come back to you with my travelreport soon.
Went to Makati, for you who dont know, Makati is a part of Manila.
Stay away from fixed rate on. On second floor you can hire incoming taxis and let them charge by meter. To Makati it was 91 Peso, compared to fixed price 400-500 P - guess this tells the most!
More to come in the Makati section.
I stayed at the Palm Plaza Hotel in Ermita, Manila and for a small hotel, this place is pretty good. Only five minutes from LA Cafe, Roxas Blvd where there is nightly entertainment, and Robinson's Mall (I think that is the name of the Mall). I am not a smoker so La Cafe was just too smoky for me. On a Friday night, I swear there were more trans then there were women and the women were not that great looking. I had more fun at the malls just looking and being stunned by so much beauty of the clerks and the throngs of shoppers. I went alone and I had no problems walking around at night.
Unfortunately, I waited until my second to the last day of my stay to enlist the help of a local driver. He actually set me up with women and he told me the locals can get serviced for only 500-750 pesos. I paid him, I forget his name but he was a friend of one of the drivers at the hotel, 1000 pesos for every hook-up. I had fun but I should have known that befriending a local mongerer is the BEST way to go. Saves time and money and for me, when I need to relax, I really don't like to go hunting.
Advice, always have small change with you (1,5,10,20 pesos) because getting back small change is not a guaranteed. Especially with taxi drivers.
Hey guys,
Can you please help me? I need to be in Manila on the 22nd of August. What is the cheapest airlines to get there and how much is the price.
Thanks
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House Hunting! I want to look around the Manila area for a house or condo to rent. Not right in Manila but within maybe a half days drive. I think I would like a gated communiyt that caters to ex-pats. They don't have to be Americans but I do want the added security.
I will only have a couple weeks this next trip and I don't know anyone there so how do I get started? Should I be talking to real estate agents? If I don't find anything I like near Manila I will check out another area next trip - maybe Cebu or Daveo. I am at a loss how to proceed.
I am going to post this in four groups: Living in the Philippines, Manila, Makati and Angeles City.
Guys:
Back in Manila for a couple of days, and as usual staying at the Dusit. Last night, I went to the Cafe Havana, in Greenbelt, to check it out as I had never been there before. Some of the finest looking waitresses I have ever seen, but I was too early for any freelance action. As I left, and was walking back to the Dusit through Grrenbelt, two ladies sitting at a table in another restuarant asked me to join them, but I took one look and declined. The night was too young for me to have been tempted by such average looking ladies.
I intended then to go to the LA Cafe and Jurrasic Park, but it started to pour and I could not find any taxi drivers willing to drive that far. I finally did find one hustler who agreed, for the sum of PhP200, to take me to the EDSA complex. On the way there, he pursuaded me to check out a place called Victory; a strip bar about 2 kms from EDA. I reluctantly did so. The good news is that the ladies were totally nude. The bad news is that I didn't care and was sure they would have looked better in clothes. The place itself is a dive and if anyone ever tries to steer you there, avoid it.
I had not yet paid the driver, and insisted he continue on to EDSA, which he duly did. I went to the Firehouse, where I have not been in some time. Four or five ladies caught my eye, and I wound up with a 19 year old who told me she had been working there for 4 days. Come to think I it, I've never met a lady in one of these places who claimed to be working in the bar for more than a week or two. The girl was a knockout, and a solid 9. About 5 feet tall but with beautiful breasts, a great ass and lovely legs. Her face was as good as her body. We left after one drink and after I paid the Php1,000 bar fine.
She looked so innocent and so young that I did think twice about taking her, but she was so hot that my dick did my thinking for me and there was little internal debate. So sooner did the taxi doors close than her tongue was in my mouth and her hand in my pants. So much for lost innocence! Instead of taking her immediately to my room, we went to the bar at the Dusit and listened to some live music and had some drinks. I don't think anyone had ever treated her that well before and by the time we got to my room, about an hour later, she was in love and out of her clothes about 3 minutes after the door closed. I popped a vitamin V and we went at it for about two hours, If she didn't love it, then she was a fine actress. She stayed until about 8 in the morning and never asked for a peso. I gave her 2,000 and she did not even count it.
EDSA has sure improved since the last time I was there, and I am seriously debating returning this evening, instead of going to LA. I want to see if I can repeat last night's experience with someone else because there were 3 or 4 equally good looking girls there last night.
Wholly bananas, on a trip to China-town in Manila, I think more than 5 girls from the stores asked if I were available for them or their friend.
In Robinson Mall a girl "hijacked" me to her beauty saloon, to show me some beauty products and very soon she asked "are you married, go with me" and so.
In Harrison Plaza, another good mall just 1 km south of Robinson,
plenty of girls work within CS (Customer Service). Many local guides here don't ask if you want something - they ask what kind of girl you want!
On the street nighttime in Ermia a lot of locals guys will show you where to find girls of all your desires. My advice is that you try a local guide just to see how they work, bring you to a club where you decide yes or no to any of the girls 1500-3000 P. These guides get their kickbacks from the owner if you buy.
Just but be aware of many ladyboys who want to give you a massage you probably do not want!
In LA Cafe (open 24 hours) in center (?) of Ermita, at least 10 girls came up to me asking to stay with me. Looks like 80% girls here. At 4 am in morning, new girls from the clubs around drops by. Ages mostly 20+, some 18 and very few 30+.
I surely can recommend the city. Many, many girls have maid this monkey business to their income. If you don't get laid here in Manila, you never get laid.
Take care, everybody!
Hi guys,
This is for the Manila experts. I'm stopping over in Manila for a couple of days before heading to KL from the Twin Cities. I'm looking for a place similar to Khao San Road,Bangkok and Jaksa Street, Jakarta. Any info. on budget hotels, nearby bars, and distance from Manila intl airport.
Thanks,
Pussy eater,
Dee boy
There was a previous post about services to meet Cherry girls who are ready to "move on". Has anyone tried such a service? I am familiar with JR. Does anyone have any experience with him and this type of request?
Alan Edwards
Was in Manila a couple weeks ago and had JR arrange exactly what your looking for. Give him a call.
The Flying Scotsman
This lady is very intelligent. She graduated from a prestigious university actually.GFE is totally awesome! She is also very kind. PM me if you want to meet her. i will give her number, as she said she wants to meet professional people (with brains).
Thanks Flying Scotsman,
Appreciate the response. What did JR charge? Did he provide choices? Advance notice required? Would you do it again? This is my first time with this type of experience, so any advice / commendations / experience is welcome!
Alan
Alan Edwards,
I sent you a PM.
I was reading WSG forum Sri Lanka reports and found Sri Lanka has some nice places where foreign girls work.
I am going to Sri Lanka next month and will meet some local friends there.
So I think there is much lucrative jobs for Filipino girls in Sri Lanka as the present Chinese and Russian girls are fat and chubby and less attractive. In my experieance I know Filipinas are really cute and speaking English. They care about their body and health a lot. So they will have a good time in Sri Lanka.
Is there any one who can help me to get down a couple of Filipinas 18-22 to employ in leading hotels? If you have any chances please let me know .. you can Email me or Im .
Your early reply will help me to discuss the matter with my locals friends immensley.
Thnx in advance
Foringuy:
There are dozens of manpower agencies in the Philippines that place young women throughout the world in various jobs. In your case, check out the agencies that find the women who get 6 month jobs in Japan as nightclub hostesses. There's no problem with recruitment. The situation here is such that literally thousands of girls want to earn the money associated with these jobs.
Peter 1101:
Do not believe yourself. You are misinformed on your declaration:
"for you who dont know, Makati is a part of Manila."
You should have realized the truth by now -- Makati is a city by itself, independent of Manila and has never been part of Manila.
Just trying to make things clear.
Cheapsakate:
While Makati is technically a separate municipality, it is fair to say it is part of METRO Manila. Brooklyn is also a separate municipality but most would agree with the statement "it is part of New York."
Makati may have its own city charter, but it still suffers from many of the same problems like traffic, pollution and overcrowding which do not recognize city boundries. Although the problems are less acute than in other parts of Metro Manila, like Quezon or Pasay Cities (ALSO separate cities, but part of Metro Manila), Makati is no shining city on a hill as many Filipinos (and round eye residents) like to think.
There are 13 separate cities which, together, make up what is generally referred to as Metro Manila. Makati is one of them. It's, in my view, the best, and several parts of Manila, such as the Ayala Center and Greenbelt, rival the best examples of urban development to be found anywhere on the planet. To me, Makati is an urban oasis in an otherwise bleak and deteriorating landscape
Guys guys guys,
Cant believe anyone is geting excited about city boundaries. Who cares? Stick to reports about mongering which is why we all come to this board.
FS
Surfer & GE
Thanks for updating my political/geographical knowldege of the Metropolitan Manila Area.
Flying Scotsman
My post was NOT intended to be Pandora's box. My apologies to everyone.
Remember "Eight Days a Week?"
Cheapskate, accepted!
As guide for others who has no idea where to find Makati when tey sit back home, I learned and just had to tell that Makati is a part of Manila. Taxi from Makati to Ermita (in Manila) is 1,5 USD - that's indeed very close to me.
Well guys, now I am back home for 2nd week, and I just miss that city!
Just spent 5 days in Manila. My female companionship had already been thoughtfully provided, but I did notice that the LA Cafe was quite well-stocked with all kinds of women. Wish I could fit that place in my bag when I go back to the UAE soon.
Also noticed that Jool's in Makati has a very good floor show worth seeing. It has girls that can really dance, unlike the shuffling that you usually see in the girly bars.
LOL I disappear to do some real life work and I come back to a geography lesson :D
Guys WHO CARES where Makati is as it relates to friggn Sultan Kudarat! Wherever that nice tight poon is that's where we belong whether it's in Makati, Pasay or Basilan even!
Well a buddy of mine's in town and we've been using our favorite(and some of yours) guide Jay R to remind us why we love this city so damn much! What a perfect way to spend a company's per diem allowance mwahahaha!
Last night we scoured Roxas Boulevard's KTVs and ended up banging girls from Republika and Dynasty Real. Our taste for the night was young and mestiza and that's where Jay R delivered us to and we were not disappointed. Then at around 1 am my friend got the urge again so off to the boarding houses along Bautista we went(aka casas) so he can get a moving pillow with a warm center for 3k a night. I've missed whoring in the city, but it's like riding a bike hehehe
We've got Jay R for the next two days, but after that if you need a guide to show you around the city(from the airport onwards, he knows where the cheapest safest spots are to stay in the various localities) give him a call 09174145416
Stay Safe and Enjoy!
Guys:
Back in Manila for a couple of days, and staying as always at the Dusit in Makati. This time, I'm with a new girlfriend, who is from Manila and visited me last week in Davao, It's pretty intense, so I have no interest in shopping around. I did meet some colleagues in the lobby here at about 7:00 this evening and there were two table of hookers, all of whom were 8-9. Well dressed, fairly discreet, but definitely hookers. When I came back down from the Thai restaurant where we had dinner, I noticed that the hookers who had been there previously had gone, but there were two more tables of new ladies, again really good looking, well dressed, but on the prowl.
I have no idea of the cost, but any of these ladies was surely worth a second or third glance. For those staying here, who are too tired or too lazy to go out, the possiblities of one stop shopping seem to be fairly abundant.
GE
GROPapa
,
What were the rates for the gals you met at the nightclubs?
Going visiting soon and would like to know!
Thanks
Lance
Just want to warn that Hyatt Regency in Pasay tries to charge 1000 pesos for extra night guests. I got out of it because I always had the same girl and she just about scratched the manager's eyes out of his sockets for implying she was a prostitute.
Also, Hyatt does not really have a Cebu Pacific discount as advertised in the airline brochure. They say this is only for local residents. I put down a fake local address and got the rate anyway. But I think this place should be struck from the list. They're too much hassle. It's a shame because it's just around the corner from EDSA.
GROpapa,
Good to see you back and as always your words make perfect sense. Thanks to you, ive got to know JR quite well and use him on most of my visits to PI. Cant recommend him highly enough as one who really knows his way around and makes such effort to keep his clients happy. Hope to see some reports from you again.
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FS
As a first-time Philippines visitor, I was very pleased with the scene at the L.A. Cafe.
You go in, have a drink, girls smile at you if they are interested -- if you are too, smile back and start talking. If you are still interested, buy her a drink. Take time to get to know her. If you still like what you see, invite her back to your room. (I recommend the City State Hotel. It's within walking distance and the staff is generally friendly and courteous.)
There are more men than women there, and as my friend put it, every girl there has a price. It seems like the ideal situation for both the men and the women. The men get a hassle-free bar experience, with a guaranteed score, and no one but the girl to negotiate with. The women get to check the guys out, and move on if they are not interested, with no hard feelings. It is a civilized mongering experience.
You are not going to get fashion models here -- so snobs, check your standards at the door. However, you will get friendly, cute, young girls, with nice smiles and non-hardened attitudes, in jeans and cute tops. My friend met two college students (he checked IDs!) who go there only occasionally, they said.
The girls were nice in bed, too. Friendly and funny, full GFE. For the record: Gina, Bench, and Elsie -- over a span of three days.
Would that there were places like this in every country. Korea, get your act together!
By the way, I didn't discuss price with any of the girls before leaving the bar. Just my style. I know that I overpaid with the first two, but I think I got it about right with the third: 1500 pesos (about $27) for all night and through breakfast in bed the next morning.
I'll be back.
I'm finally getting back to Manila the first weekend in september and will have to try out the vaunted LA Cafe and/or EDSA. PM me if you have similar plans and I'll buy the first San Miguel. Should make for a great report afterwards.
Vox Jox:
Glad you had a good experience at LA Cafe. You can of course pay what you like, but I have never paid a girl from there more than PhP1,000 and never had any complaints.
The next time you're there, check out the Jurrasic Park Bar right across the street. I'm told it's owned by the same people. It's a different scene entirely, but some of the dancers are very cute, and they're all available.
GE
In reading over my previous post, I note that I wrote "there are more men than women" at L.A. Cafe. That's not correct. There are more women. I mistyped.
(I couldn't get onto the post to edit it. Not sure why.)
I'm looking for a massage place that offers a good massage, body scrub and FS as well.
Addresses? Locations? Phone numbers? Places to stay away from?
Thanks!
[b]Scuba[/b]
[quote]
I'm looking for a massage place that offers a good massage, body scrub and FS as well.
Addresses? Locations? Phone numbers? Places to stay away from?
[/quote]
Take my advice and first try spending sometime going through the posts here, there is a lot of information contained in the threads that relate to your questions, honestly!
But if you’re too lazy to go through the posts then try the search option.
Juniour
Juniour,
Thank you for your sarcasm. re: to lazy to use the search function.
Search function does not work. If you bother to read other posts on this forum, not just The Philippines, you'd notice other posters have also mentioned the search function is not working as are many other functions. Jackson is not responding to e-mail requests it seems. If this post is edited, then he is reading my letter and is doing nothing about it, it seems.
Besides, I thought the purpose of this forum is for information sharing? Am I missing something? Or is it just me.
Guys,
LA Cafe is Crazy these days! I have been in Manila living now for the past six years and have never seen it so busy. Girls are out in full force and average price is no more then 1000 Pesos, 500 for just BJ.
"Take my advice and first try spending sometime going through the posts here, there is a lot of information contained in the threads that relate to your questions, honestly!
But if you’re too lazy to go through the posts then try the search option.
Juniour"
Juniour,
These kind of responses and rebuffs really are a turn off. How about providing some useful information to the poster (if you have anything to offer) and then suggesting that the poster do a search for more information.
Responding with some useful information would help the original poster and others with up to date info.
"Take my advice" and put up or shut up.
I mean this in the kindest of ways, let's try to help one another. Let's not try to pretend we are better than the new guy.
The "try the search option" reponses are just lazy and lame responses that are typically made by those that have little or nothing to offer themselves.
OK. Perhaps I am wrong. Maybe Juniour you have something to offer. Here's your chance dude. "Put up or shut up!"
Nuevo
Junior,
The other thing to point out is that these places generally have a very high turnover rates of gals and can have a good crop one month and hags the next. Nothing wrong with asking about where the latest "better" places are to go. What was good 6 months or a year ago may have turned to shit by now. Updates from time to time are well needed.
I don't know Manila too well as I only travel there a couple times a year and have my own regular hangouts but do like to know where the good massage joints are cause when you got a couple of hours to kill before a flight or meeting, you can't beat a good rub down and a little "extra" polishing.
Scuba,
Try Skyline in the Grand Boulevard Hotel on Roxas. I think it's on the 7th or 8th floor. Decent rooms, good looking girls though more "Filipino" style tastes than western. This means that they are generally whiter skinned (or powered up more), fuller bodied, taller, mestiza type girls. Myself, I am more partial to the little brown girls but I'm not real fussy. They also have 2, 3 and 4 girl specials if you're really gung ho.
Have fun.
Lucifer
On my last trip to LA Cafe discovered upstairs! Lots more girls, gets going about 9pm, more circulation than downstairs.
[b]Nuevo & Scuba,[/b]
In response to your posts, both of which you both seem overlook the fact that all you need to do is basically search through the posts to find still current information. When I visit a country I always take time out to actually scroll through this year’s posts.
I have no problems helping anyone who is new to country but first of all you should try helping yourself first, I don’t know why it is that people (not necessarily you) do not spend some time scrolling through the posts and instead want someone else to provide you with a detailed tailored list of where to go, what to spend, clothes to wear, how to bring your money and what to do when they get to a new country?
Yes, you are correct it is all about sharing information but this year I have travelled extensively and its not finished yet, I have posted information on Dubai, Thailand, Philippines, Dominican Republic and a couple of other places not worth posting from; like it has been said by many other people before me when people who post these questions and receive help from others – how many of you actually do post a report. I have helped 30 plus people (I kid you not) this year alone and how many do you believe have actually posted anything…….? Well, the actual number is only one, and that was [b]Desert[/b] on Airforce One, which a great deal has already been posted on this board – so if its [b][u]all about sharing information[/u][/b] maybe you should try returning the favours to fellow mongers and actually post useful information on your return.
I have received e-mails from people on other threads who say much the same thing but in much stronger terms – about people posting [i]anal[/i] questions that can easily be found in the thread. As one of them said to me – if someone is really posting such a [i]“dumb assed”[/i] questions it makes you wonder if they should really be travelling in the first place.
[b]Nuevo[/b] –
[quote]
OK. Perhaps I am wrong. Maybe Juniour you have something to offer. Here's your chance dude. "Put up or shut up!" [/quote]
Just go back and check out my posts this year in Manila & Angeles City its still current because a friend of mine has just returned and told me apart from the change of girls, price hikes and weather its very much the same. So once again - take my advice and first try spending sometime going through the posts here, there is still a lot of information contained in the threads.
My only tip to you is please buy yourself a decent digital camera, learn how to use it, to show off your 8-9s beauty queen you score with, if you actually do post a report.
By the way here is a link to my earlier post [url]http://www.wsgforum.com/vforum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1007&perpage=15&pagenumber=17[/url]
Juniour
I agree that most of the information that any newbie could want can be found by scrolling through a few months' worth of posts. Maybe guys just do not want to do the research. On the other hand, I get PM'ed frequently by guys whom I've tried to help, telling me that they found the information contained in here to be accurate and extremely helpful. Maybe these guys simply have nothing more to add to what's already been said.
I wonder what percentage of guys who read these pages actually do post. For that matter, I wonder what percentage of members do any posting. I would imagine that there's a substantial percentage of people who find the posts interesting and informative but, for one reason or another, do not wish to make contributions in writing. I do not know about you, but I get lots and lots of PMs from people who have never posted and probably never will.
GE
Juniour,
When was the last time _you_ tried using the search option. It has been down for some time now.
Pussy Luvr
Guys,
For those who do not believe about the search function. This is all I get each time I try. Believe me, I try to see if it is working every now and then but here is what I get.
Warning: main(): Unable to access ./includes/functions_search.php in /home/virtual/site4/fst/var/www/html/vforum/search.php on line 44
Warning: main(./includes/functions_search.php): failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /home/virtual/site4/fst/var/www/html/vforum/search.php on line 44
I assume everyone gets the same response or something close to it. Now can we get back to some real posting before this ends up like the Thai Board.
Tommy B.,
Yes, The L.A. Cafe has been crazy with women. Must be because of the rain lately and mid-terms for a lot of these part-time college girls who need some tuition money. Its a win-win situation. Picked up a cutie around 10 PM last Saturday. Cost me P1000 plus some cab fare for her in the morning. Make that noon.
PL
"In response to your posts, both of which you both seem overlook the fact that all you need to do is basically search through the posts to find still current information. When I visit a country I always take time out to actually scroll through this year’s posts."
Juniour,
I just reread my reponse to your post below. It was a bit harsh. I apologize.
Personally, I am like you and research this and other forums quite thoroughly before my trips.
I always write and post reports. I typically post on the board where I have gotten the most help. I may have to cross post re: this trip which starts tomorrow as I have gotten useful info here and another board.
Nuevo
Nuevo,
I'm glad you see the error of your ways (regarding jumping on Junior).
I am fully on Juniors side on this one. If we didn't jump on the newbies with all the repetative pedantic questions, we would be inundated with nothing else. Exactly why "RTFF" is in the "terms" section.
But, since the search function is down, perhaps we do need to be a bit more patient.
Scuba,
I have not found a place that offers the "Thai style" body scrub and massage.
Good luck.
FD
It's been 4 years since I was in Manila, but I did go to a Thai body to body soapy massage. I don't know if it's still there, but it was in Quezon City not to far from pegasus. It was either on Timog or quezon Ave. It was next door to a place called Rolex. Ask the taxi drivers to take you to Rolex, I don't remember the name of the massage place but it was next door to Rolex. Ciao, FL.
[b]Nuevo,[/b]
No offence has been taken, but thanks anyway.
[b]Pussy Luvr[/b]
No I have not used the search facility in a while but this still does not stop anyone from scrolling through all of this year’s posts. Yes, I know it takes time but it is still working; however, because too many people already post such lame questions, on this thread, that have already been answered numerous times, I doubt it would take anyone more than an hour to seek out the information they require scrolling through.
I just find some of these pointless questions truly mind boggling; I mean someone actually joins a sex forum, of which it is clearly spelt out what we are here for, then posts a lame question like:
[i]“I am going to Bangkok for the first time does anybody know if I can find some action?”[/i]
Juniour
I am looking for some advice from some of you old Philippine hands out there.
I intend arriving at the Manila international airport at 11:45 pm on a flight from Hong Kong. I was wondering if it would possible to get a taxi (or some other form of transportation?) directly to Angeles City that night from the airport?
And if you could, how much would it approxiamtely cost and how long would it take to get there?
Thanks in advance.
Cheers,
Osakagin
I agree with Junior.
Read previus post before asking!
[b] Osakagin [/b]
It really depends on how you fancy going but if you arrive at 11.45pm, by the time you clear customs & immigration it’s likely to be around 1am.
Yes, you can find taxis prepared to take you up there from anything from 1,500 – 3,500 pesos but take my advice would you really want to make this journey at nearly 1am for 3 around hours? Its not a good idea; also depending on where you are staying in AC the hotel may be able to arrange for a car to collect you at NAIA at a price.
Take my advice, why not stay in a hotel overnight and leave first thing in the morning it not a good idea to be travelling in any city at these hours.
Juniour
Osakagin,
I agree with Juniour. You will be wasting a full night if you go up to AC that night.
You won't get there until 3am and (IMHO) its a waste.
I suggest you stay at the either Heritage, Hyatt, or Swagman Inn(make your choice depending on how much you want to spend), which are all in Pasay. You can either go to EDSA complex for the night and get a lady, or if you stay at the Swagman you can just head over to LA Cafe which is really close.
Then, the next day, you can take a transport from Swagman up to AC. Its very easy and cheap from there, as they have a bus that goes up there several times a day (or they used to).
good luck,
Lalake
Osakagin,
As mentioned, a prearranged van from one of the places in Angeles (Margaritavillle, Orchid,others) is a good way to go. Taxis booked inside the airport terminal are also safe. But, the only advantage to heading up to AC at that time of night is better traffic.
An overnight will give you an extra night of fooling around, but forget the Swagman (in Ermita not Pasay). True, it's "Fly the Bus" service to AC and beyond is a very nice way to go, but there are many nearby hotels that offer more for less. Don't eat or drink there (expensive) unless you have an overwhelming urge for some "Aussie tucker".
FD (hakugin)
Osakagin,
I am going to Manila on September 24. I am staying at the Swagman (Ermita). Why I am doing this is that they pick you up at the Airport (free of charge) and take you to the hotel. They include a free breakfast and then the naxt morning (11:30) you can take the Fly the Bus to Angeles for 11 or 12 dollars from their front door.
I don't know how far you are flying to get to Manila but if it is a flight from North American, you may need a good nights rest before you hit Angeles.
I haven't got the website handy but if you do a search on the net you will find it. It could be www.swaggy.com ???
Caw199
Thanks Junior, Lalake and Firedick for the advice, it is much appreciated.
Under normal circumstances I would stay the night in Manila and catch the morning Fly the Bus as I have done several occasions before.
I have been to the Philippines many times however on this occasion because of work committments I can't catch my normal Thai Air AM flight from Japan that usually lands me in Manila in the afternoon and I have to catch plane to the Philippines via HK, arriving 11:45 pm.
I need to be in AC early on Saturday morning hence my desire to catch a taxi straight from the airport late Friday night/early Sat. morning.
Thanks again.
Guys,
Anybody gonna be in La Cafe in the near future? I have a favour to ask. Just need to find out if someone is still there so that I know if its safe to go back :) Just PM me.
Regards
FS
Just had a text from JR. Apparently he now has a new place to take anyone seeking Cherry Girls who are ready to POP!
Anyone interested just PM me.
FS
Osakagin,
The normal thing to do is to stay in Manila for a day then go on to AC the next just like many have suggested. I did that once but then I couldn't sleep with my "woody wood pecker" on the whole night. My later trips, it's straight to AC, get some strong coffee, bar hop a bit, get a girl for "short time" then sleep until the next evening. To each his own, have fun buddy.
oh boy! now what to do?
i finally got out of korea, (it's the cest pool of asia in my opinion, koreans are their own worst enemy, they fuck up a wet dream)
anyway.
i'll be in manila tonight, thursday evening around midnight. friday morning?
and no hotel booked and no pussy lined up! first things first. pussy. and at midnight? in manila? i'll need a good rubdown as well!
suggestions? where are the "shows?"
i have a few buddies along who want to see the lbfm peeling oranges with, along with whatever else they can do. where can i take them?
Osakagin and everyone,
one final note on getting to AC.
In the last 9 months or so, Asiana Air is flying directly to AC. I think the flight is from Seoul, but, don't quote me on that. I think they go 4 days/week.
I'd love to see more people use this flight as I wouldn't want it to go to waste.
cheers,
Lalake
Q is the name of the massage place beside Rolex that offered the "Thai style" soap massage. It has been closed though for quite a while (around 2 years). The girls in the joint were mostly subpar in terms of looks. But the soap massage was worth the experience :-)
I believe Star Fleet in Paranaque might still do soap massages from what I have read in other boards. But I haven't been there in a while.
I've just returned from the Philippines recently. I stayed in Taytay Rizal in manila near Cainta. There is A place in Cainta accross from Sta. Lucia East Grand Mall Called Genie Magic KTV. The girls there are Choice. First of all you get to choose from a line up. I got in on a special of 800 pesos, then tipped the girl 1,500 for everything. She was like 19 yrs old I would say an 8. The place is a big building. It was great. There used to be a place in Kubau also where you can pay 100 pesos for entrance then select a number for a girl 1-100 then get a massage and service. I'm not sure if that place is still up.
Cute_tsinito
Star Fleet does offer soap massage in the VIP section - price about 2400 for 90 minutes - girls start off asking for the room rate for extras, they will go for 1500 to 2000.
Dong Long,
There are a lot of KTV Bars around Cainta and the Libis area. checked most of those places out but very few or hardly any "white" foreigner patrons can be found. Mostly they are for rich locals and HK or Taiwanese business men who can afford the high service and barfines. Most of the girls are either chinitas or mestizas but top quality. They just ask too much for so little and karaoke is not my forte.
PL
Gentlemen,
Coming to Manila shortly for a "long weekend" away from Land of Smiles. A little local info if you would be so kind.
After a bit of research on this site and others we have decided to stay in Ermita. We are looking for a Soi Cowboy experience, as opposed to a high end, expensive, Japanese Businessmen Ratchadapisek scene. This is the logic behind Ermita as opposed to Makati. Looking at staying either City State Tower or Swagman, either/ both girl friendly?
Are we on the right track with this plan?
Thanks in advance for any advice.
Went to the Grand Boulevard Hotel on Roxas, 7th/8th floor. Don't remember. Pay 1500 for the entrance fee, they call out about 20 girls and you view them on the other side of a two way mirror. Pick the number you want that is attached to the gal and head for the room. I choose number 78. Never again. Good attitude, good conversation but NO oral skills at all and no technique to write about. She wanted 1500 up front. So, I'm out 3000 P and a bad time.
Stayed at Swagman a few days, easy to pick up a gal or two their and went to Puerto Galera for some diving. Ocean diving, not muff diving! But I did check out the local titty bars and the dancers. I did not try any of the gals though. None seem to get my attention.
Overall the PI is a good place to kick back which is what I wanted to do and spend little money. But crowded as hell, dirty and so many homeless people begging for money. Very depressing at times. Especially seeing the little children begging. You have 4 and 5 year olds diving off the boats and piers to collect the coins that people are tossing in the water. Some were really hungry for food!
Some great looking women, people showed manners and lots of respect. Unlike korea where the people are the cesspool! Not so much the women as the korean men! What garbage they are! Even in PI they acted like animals treating the women bad.
Scuba,
Whats dates were you in PG? How was the weather and diving? Also how was the nightlife? Any decent looking talent at the clubs?
Thanx
In PG from 13 September to 23 September. Water was warm, diving was great, visibility was great also. Night life? All of the Philippines have great night life! Depends on what you want and are looking for. Same with the quality of the girls. Depends on what gets your attention. The Philippines sells itself. I went for the diving and to relax, kick back and chill. Food was great. Companionship was plentful and cheap. Depends on how you treat the gal if she will treat you well.
Baldoon,
You won't find anything quite like Soi Cowboy in the RP. But, you might enjoy the EDSA complex. Also, L.A. Cafe is walking distance from the City State Tower or the nearby Lotus Garden. Both girl friendly. Forget Swagman. Probably the worst value in M. Manila.
outtolunch,
I'll probably make "the move" shortly after the superbowl.
FD
Hi Guys,
I need some advice here. I'm new to the Philippines, travelling early december, but have some experience of the LOS, Pattaya to be more specific. So, how do things here compare to Pattaya? Sorry if this is a daft question, but that's what I can calibrate to! Pattaya has it's charm being by the sea and all. I mean Angeles sounds like it could do with a bit of seaside? Am I wrong?
Here's some specific questions about the Manila area.
Best places for hanging about for pick-ups, shopping malls etc? I mean places you're likely to be approached by non-pro / semi-pro studenty types for a bit of GFE.
LA café sounds fun, is that what I'm looking for? ESDA complex someone mentioned, what's that?
Accomodation in Manila: Appartment, is that an option for an 11 night stay? Any suggestions?
Are chat/dating internet sites worth using to make contacts before travelling? Any suggestions?
Should I be thinking of travelling somewhere else in the country? I was thinking of basing myself in Manila, but would for example Cebu be a more holiday friendly option?
Getting off subject now but does anyone know how to get hold of a book called The Hedonist? Amazon won't supply it to my country! Is it worth having?
/John58
Firedick,
Im going to PI on Monday for 12 days, a couple days work, a few days diving, probably in PG and 5-6 days in AC. Coming back Oct. 2.
I'll be going back in middle of November for 18 days. I'll be spending a week in Boracay with my favorite girl before she gets married to her boyfriend in December. Sort of a pre-honeymoon for her, ha,ha. She the one with the big sou sous. I'll be in touch.
John58:
You might like things better in Cebu. I personally wouldn't spend much time in Manila. It's dirty, dangerous, and depressing.
To John 58,
John, I'm an old Thailand hand, now living in the PI, Pattaya(and Phuket) was my preferred place over BKK, there is just no comparison to Thai girls over Filipinas, Thai are more mercenary and more deceptive, I would never do more with a Thai than BF orone nighter, I can speak Thai pretty well and I hear all the things they are saying to rip you off. General rule of thumb, Thailand for better mindless sex, PI for a girl next door type you can pick up in the mall for a bounce but probably wants to be Mrs John 58
IMHO Thai girls are better at sex, less shy and are more enthusiastic about the whole thing. They are a little reluctant about a blow job but thats a cultural thing, also, Thai women are more likely to be a "bowling ball" (all three holes)than Filipina, I've only done three out of about thirty Filipina in the rear door,however, Filpina are better at blow jobs.
The great thing about the Phils is that you can get laid for free, well thats a relative term but you can pick up girls who are not bar girls easier than in thailand, where not many self respecting Middle to upper class Yings will be seen with a Falang. Here its possible to get a non pro who speaks great english, parade around with proudly like a trophy catch, they actually like Americans (an other foreigners) but the kicker is they are more oriented to a steady, thats is to say a husband or fiance than just a quick trick.
In this instance you may have to court the girl or meet her some other way than by going into a bar, picking out a go go dancer or one in the fish bowl ala Pattaya.
The further you get away from Manila the better IMHO, Manila sucks, the closest you will get is Ermita, Malate or Makati similar to Nana Plaza or Pattaya beer bars. You should definitely check out the provinces like Cebu, however, your best hunting may be here in Davao. If what you are after is some cutie you meet in the mall then boff in your hotel room.
Spamhog says the over thirty lady is a sure bet for this one, however, you can pick up the younger "tuition girls" looking for a quick fling with a foreigner for a few thousand pesos, these are semi pros but really the best deal going.
Of course we have several "professional" outlets, girls are quite nice,I suggest you go to the Davao board and check out what guys like Dragon Slayer and Good enough are saying, it seems to me that prices are about the same, perhaps a littlel cheaper here in the PI.
I dont mess around anymore (kinda) as I'm married to a local lass, but damn I do miss going to LOS for a 2some with a pair of isan cuties!
Good Luck
Spamhog
Hi to all,
Being a part-time enthusiast and lurker on this forum for the past few years, I thought it was finally time to put fingers to keyboard. The forum has been a valuable source of information to me and I must thank all contributors. The main reason I have never posted I guess is that I've never really had anything worthwhile to add - who am I kidding, I'm just a lazy SOB.
To introduce myself I am 30ish from Scotland but currently working in South China not far from Hong Kong and will be relocating to KL mid-November. I have enjoyed mongering experiences in Holland, Prague and the FKK clubs in Frankfurt as well as the Asian delights of China, Thailand, Singapore and KL.
To start off my first post with a question if that's okay, although some recent posts may have answered this already. I am planning a holiday to the Philippines for 2 weeks beginning of October and am looking for advice on where to go. I have done some research but it doesn't come close to the advice from the experienced posters. I plan to go to some serious mongering the first week with a mate from work and then I am on my lonesome for the 2nd week and looking for the best place to chill during the day and party at night.
My first thoughts are a few days in Manila/Makati then 4 days in Angeles City. For the 2nd week I have narrowed it down to Sabang beach in Puerto Galera or Boracay as I also want to take in some diving. What are the chances of picking up some decent talent for LT GFE at these places or is it better to take a girl from Manila or Angeles for the week? If so, where are the best places to do this: Manila freelancers from say LA caf¨¦ or go-go girls from EDSA, Burgos Street or Angeles City? Please bear in mind I am kind of picky and usually go for the 8 or 9's (if available!).
Hope to hear back from you and I promise to post a report on my return and hopefully some pics.
Robbo
Last year when I came to Manila, I noticed there were a few shops that will make custom shoes from all kinds of leather (snake, crocodile, sting ray). Too bad I didn't have time to get them made (3 days)
I am thinking of coming to Manila again. For mongering, but also for some shopping. Now, I noticed there were posts about guides, but JR seems a bit "rich" when he finds you girls for 3,000 Pesos. Can anyone recommend getting a guide for me who will do things such as find a good shoe shop, help with negotiation, etc., all for a reasonable cost? Any ideas?
Also, I know The Phil may not be the best place for this...but has anyone had good experience getting suits and shirts made? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance,
Tooch
[b] Robbo[/b]
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Manila freelancers from say LA Café ¨¦ or go-go girls from EDSA, Burgos Street or Angeles City? Please bear in mind I am kind of picky and usually go for the 8 or 9's (if available!).
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Manila and the Philippines is indeed filled with many beautiful women, but I would suggest that you are unlikely to find them in the LA Café, in my opinion it's filled with too many hardened pros who rate around an average of 5, being generous, for my liking. Burgos Street has better quality but at a price and the few diamonds in Angeles City are either already snapped up or have made their way down to the capital where they can earn the big bucks. However, outside of the bar scene in AC there are many regular girls, who with a bit of effort are looking for LTR.
I am sure if you use the search function you will find many of the other posts, good & bad, concerning the LA Café.
Juniour
Robbo,
Bottom line is we all have our favorites and tend to sing the praises of said, myself included. Tastes are, of course, subjective. Get out and check em out for yourself. I enjoy a couple nights in Manila, and a few in both AC and Sabang, but I don't know squat about the south.
If you're going to Boracay, BYO. Sabang has a few.
As Junior said, 8-9's can be found outside of Manila. But they do tend to move where the money is.
Tooch,
Forget the RP for clothes and shoes. As you've guessed, BKK is much better. Send a PM to 1ball (Thai boards). He has a great guy that does custom shoes in BKK.
FD
Any chance to pick up the 8's 9's girl in Manila??
Well, it is a bit hard to tell.
Cheap one you can get from LA cafe but they are quite professional ones.
Second cheapest.. you can have some girls from EDSA complex but have to spend some time until you get THE one.
Or, if you really have some time to do it.. go to local KTV and try to make a girl friend..
Any comment on this?
ROBBO (et al)
Being an old Asia Hand, I've mongered and then some in most or all of the Asian countries you mentioned I was stationed in E. Timor a few years back and used to run amok in most capitols. Now the PI was NEVER my favorite place (Bankok Pattaya) for mindless imaginative sex, however, I discovered a great secret once when stranded in the PI....there are girls here who you can pick up quite easily, non pro or non bar girls but regular ladies who are students, nurses, (had a lady dentist once) school teachers that will rock your world, I have to say Manila is the worst place for such most are freelancers, Pros or semi pros.
The Provinces are where its at, the best kept secret is Davao, where I currently live, however, CEBU may be the best for you, they have pro and several bars to serve that outlet, there are enough single regular girls to make chatting up or meeting a "nice girl" very easy, you can easily meet a lady and have her escort you to Bohol or Camigiun island for some great diving (muff and scuba) and other adventures, but I warn you, they want to be Mrs Robbo, the older ladies say 28 plus if unmarried or unattached are the easiest lays with the over thirty a sure bet, also probably will come out of the bathroom wearing a wedding dress so be prepared how your going to handle that. But I would say CEBU over Manila or AC any day, if your adventurous check out Davao.
About clothes shoes and stuff, the PI sucks in this regard if you have opver a size 34 waist or 38 chest, shoes are impossible cant even find a size 10 in Manila or cebu, there are tailors usually run by Byots (faggots) but the workmanship is nothing compared to the Indian tailers of Bangkok.
Spamhog
Robbo,
This may answer a few questions for you. I recently returned from 10 days in RP, six in Manila and 4 at Sabang beach. I found the girls downstairs in LA cafe to be average, although one night my mate picked up a 19 year old cherry girl and she was over the moon the next morning when he gave her 1500 pesos for her birthday - she genuinely wasn't expecting a cent, very cute as well. Upstairs at LA the girls are generally younger and prettier, quite a few 7-8's, only saw about 2 9's. However, rich japanses businessman seem to have cornered this market and the young girls know they can make alot of money in a few days with these guys, pushing the price up for the average mongerer. Still LA is an enjoyable place to kick back and relax to some music with mates if you aren't too fussed about the quality of the girls.
Amazonia is a new club up the road from LA and it gets some high quality freelancers. The musi is pretty good and the place is very nice inside. Watch out for the girl in the short skirt who will dance on your dick for 2 minutes and expect a 500 tip. All in all not a bad place to pick up, and all the waitresses wear hot uniforms and most are available for some after work nooky.
I found that most girls are expecting 1500 pesos for an overnight stay at the moment, but there were a couple of girls who were happy to leave while I was still sleeping, without a cent (yes, my wallet was still there when I awoke.)
I was a bit dissapointed in the freelancer scene in Sabang beach, Puerto Galera. Nearly all the girls are attached to one of the strip bars. I found the best one to be Sunset disco. The girls are good fun and you can have a great time with them without committing yourself too much. The mamasans in Sabang disco and some of the others are too pushy and the atmosphere is very professional. Centrum disco is the best spot for freelancers, but be aware that alot of the girls go there when their disco shift is over, and the minders follow them there so the girls still expect you to pay a barfine even though they are no longer at work. I picked up a few freelancers at the karaoke bars along the main strip. One cutey on "holidays" from Makati ended up spending two days with me travelling around the island and I didn't give her a cent. You can be lucky.
Overall, I had a ball. Two things never cease to amaze me about the PI girls and the guys who love them. First, so many are willing to bonk without condoms. Gonorea is out of control in Manila as a result, so fellas - tarp up at all times.
Second, so many guys are sending these girls money as their "fiances", naively thinking that they are no longer "working" and saving themselves for the 4 or 5 times a year they can visit. Talking to the girls I bonked, they all have several "fiances" who are sending them money under this belief. Don't be sucked in guys, these girls are very good at making you believe that they love you and only you.
On a happier note I've posted a pic to remind us of the natural treasures the Rp has to offer.
Happy hunting,
Anzac
Anzac,
This is not intended as a flame, but it is not hard to get laid for free in the Philippines. Many guys have proven this as you have.
The girls are usually to shy to ask you if you can help them, when you do not offer. I have even had girls refuse my initial offers to give them money. It was only after I insisted that they take the money did they accept my offer.
My point here is that most of these girls do believe that by the end of their stay with you they will receive some help in the form of money from you.
It doesn't take much considering what they make just working in the PI to make a difference in making the rent that month or buying food.
My point is for those newbies that are seeking to travel here. Us mongers should do our part to make sure that these girls continue to come out in public to be our tour guides, escort us around town or just to chat for a brief minute and then head back for the good deed.
If we all went after just the getting laid and never paid them any money, then pretty soon they would all quit offering to help us.
Just my thoughts.
FF
From Scuba:
"Overall the PI is a good place to kick back which is what I wanted to do and spend little money.........................Some great looking women, people showed manners and lots of respect. Unlike korea where the people are the cesspool! Not so much the women as the korean men! What garbage they are! Even in PI they acted like animals treating the women bad."
I couldn't agree with you more.
Frequent Flier,
Fair call about paying the girls. My biggest problem, perhaps due to inexperience, was telling the normal girls who I met in discos etc from the semi-pro working girls. As you know, the girls are so good at giving a GFE that it's sometimes difficult to work them out and I genuinely didn't want to offend any of them.
I found that the "normal" girls, 20-25 who are looking for a husband and have regular jobs, are very easy to get in the sack for some BOOM,BOOM. I can see your point re the freelancer girls and I think the best indicator as to whether the girls expect to be paid is the place where you find them.
Here's another pic from recent trip. Hope you guys like it. This girl liked to go looking for a third and loved going down on other girls - obviously a favourite of mine.
Cheers,
Anzac
Hello fellow Mongers,
This is my first post on the board and would like some help from the more experienced. I will be back in Manila the last week in October and have yet to book my hotel room. I have always stayed in Makati but this time I want to try something different. Right now, I'm leaning towards the Grand Boulevard on Roxas. The idea of an afternoon massage to get things started followed by an evening stroll to the LA Cafe is very enticing. Any information on the Grand Boulevard would be greatly appreciated; such as: Guest friendly, 24 hour room service, king size beds, bar for FL, clean rooms etc., and is there a separate entrance for the Skyline MP or does everyone have to go through the front lobby entrance? Thanks again for all your help.
Reports to come as soon as I arrive in Paradise!
Mick Monger,
Grand Blvd hotel is a nice place and guest friendly. There is also a great massage place in the 8th floor. You're very close to all the KTV bars along Roxas and Malate is just a 5 minute walk as well.
Have a great time!
IB
Hi Guys,
I’m planning to in Manila for business trip on the third week of October.
It’s my first time to travel to the Philippines.
I’ll appreciate some recommendation:
1. A good hotel (my budget is ~150) with a good massage plus.
2. Recommendation on an escort services for LT, how much it cost ?
Thanks,
Eric
Hi Anzac,
I understand your point, but I think you missed mine, or maybe not. But in any case.
My point was pro or not, handing over a few dollars will help pros and non-pros alike.
I know that a true non-pro may protest a little, but if you insist that you just would like to do something nice for them because you think they deserve it and you think they are nice, they will take some money.
If a girl just meets you and jumps in the sack with you for sex, knowing that you will be leaving the country forever or not to return for months. Do you think a vast majority of these girls are non-pros? Possibly just more professional than some of the others.
I do realize that there is the odd exception where they would just prefer to have sex with a foreigner than have sex with a man from their country for their own reasons.
I have experienced this myself. I had a brief experience with a dental Hygienist, 38 and looked much much younger, who had two children and a mother who lived with her in a two bedroom house. Her profession, in most countries, would pay more than enough to live comfortably with much better housing arrangements.
This lady only wanted sex as she hadn't been with a man in sometime and wanted sexual healing. Her reasons for picking a foreigner was that she didn't want a relationship with a local who may try to create a relationship and thereby try to move in and think that he was entitled to some of her income.
In another situation I met a girl through Filipina Heart. She brought along a friend for the first meeting. The friend owned her own business, drove and picked me up in her SUV type vehicle. So obviously in no need of monetary help. We got along very well and her friend opened up quite a bit. She and her deceased husband had traveled overseas to Europe and the USA, so she was worldly and aware of her surroundings. When her husband died, she received quite a sum from the insurance. He was shot in a robbery of his car.
This very nice girl came right out and told me she would never date a Filipino man because she would never marry one. She explained that she worried that a Filipino man would only pretend to love her so that he could marry her and then have her killed for her money. She was very serious. I know people get killed for money and kill spouses for money in all countries, but rarely does someone have to consider this and write off her countries entire male population.
Just some of my experiences. As you can tell I need to get back to the PI quick so that I can start contributing with sex reports and more pictures.
FF
Day Two:
I was up early feeling a little refreshed after a decent rest in 26 hours of travelling; I had established contact with a couple of girls that I had been corresponding with since March, when I was last here and a couple of others via various means. However, one thing I have learnt is that its wise to use different aliases because as I discovered previously, not just in the Philippines but this applies to other countries, is that many of these girls are friends or related so one day you are chatting to one girl and then you start chatting to another and you don’t realise that she is the cousin or best friend of the girl you were chatting too last week and these girls are very jealous of such things, so this is why I have adopted various alias and only one girl knows where I am staying exactly because its better if I meet them at a central location rather than risk them coming to my hotel unexpectedly.
I have also discovered that many of the girls who gave me their cell numbers don’t actually own their phones, it either belongs to their cousins or best friends, so at one stage I was receiving around ten text messages an hour (90% rather pointless in my books). However, still looking for some actions today either the girls I was looking for were either working or away from their phones. But one girl, who owned the phone, said her friend was at work now, but then she kept texting me saying she wanted to meet me, even though I didn’t know her and went onto ask me to give her load, (no not that type of load) but actually transfer some credit from my cell phone to hers, but I didn’t even know this girl, then she wanted to come over to my hotel so she and her other friend could meet me, I also said no to this idea. Then for the next three hours she was texting me asking if I still wanted to meet her that evening and asking what I am doing, remember at this time I had other girls also texting me at the same time, so it became somewhat confusing, keeping track who it was texting me and what they wanted. One of the other girls who told me she worked in Manila actually worked up north in Clark, plus this other one, later text me to say she would skip work the following day to come down and see me, but could I first send her 500 Pesos (U$9/£5/€7) and do this by sending it through the Western Union. I said it would be better for her to borrow the money from someone locally rather than me actually sending such an amount. I calculated that OK, I suppose it would not do too much harm and once I had sent this amount, she asked if its OK for her to stay with me, all-night, fine, I said.
So with no action arranged so far on the second day I opted to go to EDSA, which seemed to have even less people there than when I was here back in March. I know this is the type of place people either love or hate, but to be honest compared to what I have seen in the LA Café its better in terms of the quality of girls in there. The choice of clubs inside EDSA was not that much to choose from, it really depends on what type of music you prefer to listen to, I opted for Pitstop, inside at 9.40pm I was informed I was only the second customer of the night, there were a couple of girls that caught my eye but I was looking out for these two cousins from Cebu that working in there when I was last here in March but sadly for me they have since moved on. Yes, there were still some other fit young ladies to pull and the quality ranged from 5-9, in my books.
I saw a couple of girls who looked hot under the bright lights but when you got up closer to them they look very young and not as hot as I thought. I got talking to one girl who seemed OK and the mamasan was making sure the 50% of the customers (i.e me) was being looked after properly. I then received another text message in there from this girl working up in Subic, if it’s OK for her to stay with me the following day. I had already said yes, and then received a second message could her cousin come too; I sent back a one word reply “Why?” Since all we had agreed to do was have dinner to see if we clicked.
Back at EDSA having settled for one girl I was on the look out for a second to have me unwind tonight, with the mamasan prompting she suggested this other girl who I shall call Abbey, to join myself and Brittany. Before I agreed to the deal of two girls at 1,000 Pesos (U$18/£10/€14) bar fine each, I asked if they got along with each other to which Brittany said she gets along with everyone. I tried without any success to get a discount with the mamasan, despite me telling her that I am the only other customer in there now spending money in there but alas she would only offer to pay for my round of drinks – and that was it.
So after the drinks I pay up and jump in the taxi and the girls suggest that they would like to go to a nightclub, but as they had no intentions of paying for this themselves, then it was straight back to my place. In the City Garden we have no problems as this is a guest friendly hotel. We get into my room and the girls begin to negotiate (please note this is not Angeles City but Manila) They suggest 2,000 Pesos (U$36/£20/€28) each and I said to them for that type of money they would have to work twice as hard, then Abbey informs me that most of the customers that take her out from the bar are Japanese and they always pay her from 3,000 Pesos (U$54/£30/€42) I explained I am not Japanese or Korean and they will get 1,000 Pesos (U$18/£10/€14) depending on their performance. There is a lot of thinking going on here as Abbey again pipes up that this is not AC where you get everything for a little price, but I said I know that already. As they needed whatever money I was going to give them, more than I needed them on this particular night, we soon get down to business.
After the girls shower and come back to the bed Abbey seems to be the more dominant of the two, whilst Brittany seems to go along with anything I say. I start kissing Brittany and suggest that Abbey, gets on with blowing me, then she pipes up that she wants a condom, I said for this its not worth the 1,000 Pesos I had offered to pay you. Then Abbey says something in Tagalog and the girls switch places and Brittany begins with the BBBJ, which is quite good, Abbey has some nice suckable tits which gets my attention, we go on like this for some time then I suggest that Abby sits on my face for some DATY, which she seems to enjoy from the noises she was making, being honest both girls tasted good. After a while we switch places and Abbey making a poor attempt at a BBBJ, I point this out to her and say whilst I am happy with Brittany’s performance at a BBBJ I think Abbey is not so good. After some careful instructions about exactly what I want she then goes back to the job in hand and to my surprise she makes a very good job of the BBBJ in fact after some ten minutes I come in her mouth which surprises her. Because she tells me that she has never sucked dick without a condom and never had anyone come in her mouth before, I asked her what she thought and she said, it was a surprise but not that bad. We sits down for a while with Brittany trying to initiate a second round and this time Brittany is riding me cowgirl style and me kissing Abbey, we then change positions and condoms now its Abbey’s turn which is OK. I manage after some effort to come again, Abbey asks me if it was OK, I am thinking she is talking about the service, and when I say yes, she says OK I will take a shower, and with that the two of them head for the bathroom to wash and finish up. The one thing that surprises me is when Brittany asked if she can use me toothbrush..? I am thinking OK I have just been kissing you and you might well have been sucking my dick but there is no need to take any liberties here.
Overall its was a good service once Abbey had warmed up, but I believe she is not used to customers who are not Japanese generally I would do the both of them again, and when the girls leave, with 1,000 Pesos (U$18/£10/€14) and small box of chocolates I brought over they are pleased. Abby and Brittany both left their cell no and asked to get in touch with them when they are not working to go out – I will certainly consider it.
EDSA Complex, Pasay City
Thanks for the tip GE, I will see if I can get over to check out Amazonia.
More Edsa Girls...
Final Edsa Girls...
I have some questions about hotels in the Manila area and yes I've read the old messages. I have read that its best not to prebook but find a hotel after you get in town. How much is the savings over booking online?
Are there any hotels near [walking distance] LA Cafe, around US$25 a night, and nice? If not near LA Cafe please discuss its convenience.
What are the chances that they won't have a room for you if you just show up in a cab?
What do you do if they are full? Do you have the cab wait until you know you have the room?
What do you ask for at the desk to avoid the kano price?
Anything else I should know?
Thank you guys.
Anzac:
It's probably best not to worry about classifications of women here. The dividing lines between pros, semi-pros and gifted amateurs is pretty thin in the Philippines and it shifts all the time. Sort of like President Bush Senior's "line in the sand." What's the real difference anyway.
The fact is, as I see it, that most of the women here are looking for a boyfriend or husband who can provide some degree of financial and perhaps even emotional security. Today's hooker is tomorrow's totally domesticated housewife and today's housewife is only one pissed off husband away from tomorrow's hooker. I think it's more a question of circumstance than place.
Frequent Flier is correct. Virtually all women here will accept money, including those who do not demand anything. It's all in the phrasing. Many of the women here do not want to think of themselves as screwing for money, but if you tell them you like them, and you just want to help them out, they'll take the cash and most of them really need some financial help.
GE
J Boy,
In regards to hotels I suggest 2 NOT to stay at.
The Bayview Park on Roxas is overpriced (especially booked online), very intrusive and unfriendly. Shame because it is close to everything.
The Swagman HOtel around the corner is a dump. The A/C whines like an old engine all night and the sound proofing from the noisy street is non existent. Cockroaches and ants were everywhere - i stayed 1 night and couldn't wait to get out.
The Lotus Garden hotel, not sure of the street name, is only a 5 minute walk from LA, Amazonia etc and clean, large rooms, good price with breakfast included and girl friendly. I also know the building is sound as it hardly shook during a tremor when I was there recently. My first, how scarey are they?
If the hotel reception staff at any large hotel think you are an inexperienced traveller they will tell you that the only rooms available are the superior rooms (most expensive) I found that if i told them that I would go next door to the next hotel, they would miraculously "find" a room that hadn't been available 2 minutes before. It pays to look around, don't book before you go, and keep the taxi waiting. Have fun,
Anzac
Another pic from recent trip....great BBBJ
Anzac
Thanks. I did find Lotus Garden hotel online and could book a standard room through PlanetHoliday.com for US$37 a night. How much better is the price for just showing up?
Also I found this area map: http://www.planetholiday.com/HotelDatabase/images/MapPhotos/Continent2/Country70/City1622/Area/Area26697.htm
Could you tell me where LA Cafe and Amazonia are on here, assuming they are on the map?
Anzac,
I couldn't agree with your assessment of Swagman more. Though I love their "Fly the Bus" to AC and beyond.
Lotus Garden has been my choice in Ermita for 10 years or so (back then known as the "Royal Palm"). As you say, girl friendly. As a matter of fact, the bellboys will give you smiles and thumbs up if they approve of your selection and seem to really enjoy it when you head upstairs with a few ! Easy walk over to Swagman to catch the bus plus, the Si-kat departs for Puerto Galera from the nearby City Tower.
J Boy,
Contact the hotel directly:
Email: royalhtl@pacific.net.ph
Tel: 522-1515
You'll do a little better than the $37 online rate. They will (have for me at least) take a reservation without a credit card number, just on your word. Then you show up and can negociate with nothing to lose, but they've now invested in you by holding a room.
To get to L.A. Cafe from Lotus: the lobby doors open onto Mabini. Immediately right is P. Faura, take it right. You're now going west. The first street you hit is Del Pilar. Go left.
L.A. Cafe is two long blocks down on the right on Del Pilar. This can be a rough neighborhood, common sense rules apply. Take a taxi back if you're hammered and it's dark.
50 pisos well spent.
Have fun,
FD
PS. National Bookstore sells pretty good maps of the RP.
I took a jpg of my map, but once downsized for posting here it will lose all nec rez. PM me and I'll email it to you.
I hear that there is a new Hyatt Hotel and Casino in Ermita now. Has anyone spent anytime there? I have stayed at the Hyatt in Pasay quite a few times in the past, and that hotel is fairly girl friendly, but I would like to find out how they handle the "guest" situation at the new hotel. If the nightly rates are OK at the new Hyatt, I think this would be a great place to stay as it is only a short walk to the LA Cafe area etc.
I haven't seen anyone mention the Manila Pavilion (formerly the Holiday Inn). I see many girls in the morning with older gentlemen at the buffet breakfast, so I know that it's girl-friendly.
The Hyatt in Pasay is guest friendly if you consider a joiner fee to be guest friendly. I don't. In August I managed to get out of it by 'reasoning' with the manager. I think it was something close to 1000 per visit.
LA Cafe,
Its some where between 9:00 & 10:00 pm on a Saturday night. I walk into the LA Cafe. From the board I know not to waste anytime downstairs, so I head upstairs.
The place is packed and rocking. Live bands playing pretty good music. I work my way around the bar heading to the tables on the right side of the band stand. My guess is there are about 75 women in here.
I grab a beer, sit at the second table from the front of the dance floor. Start to check out the ladies. They are every where. Dancing on the floor, dancing on the stages, walking, milling about and smiling greatly.
3 to 4 women come up to me, try to start a conversation but not my type, so I just say I am relaxing right now and they move on.
The band changes about every 30 to 45 minutes I am noticing. Thats fine, keeps it interesting cause there are some good looking girl singers.
Now this one girl is bold, she comes over and sits next to me in the empty stool, kinda cute about a 7.5 but really nice. She talks really well and we seem to click. I buy a few beers for us, she goes out to the dance floor and kinda puts on a mimi dance show for me. Moving sexually, winking & plain just looking like she is having fun.
She comes back, tells me If I want anything a massage or what ever she can help me. I tell her I know, thank you. Couple of more beer later, I ask her if she would like to leave. She said sure. I ask her how much, she says up to you.
We go to the local hotel, I can't remember the name but everybody there was getting the 3 hour room cost. Its just a short taxi ride away.
They give you a key and a condom, I ask for 2 just incase, sure not prob, another Php50. We get in the room, she finds a tv channel and heads to the bathroom to clean up. I get naked and wait for her so I can do the same. Done we are in bed naked now, kissing and playing. She goes right to BBBJ. Good girl.
She sucks me for a bit I eat her pussy, we are having fun. Time to fuck, on goes the condom, start with missionary. Nice pussy and good looks, such a good combination. Lets roll her over on her side, no prob, she is very submissive. Ok, I have her on her side for a bit. Now lets go to doggy. No problem, she rolls over and puts her ass in the air, I fuck her pussy deep, spanking her ass and pulling her hair.
Ok, not ready to cum yet, we go to cowgirl for awhile. She rides me good, now I am getting hot. I tell her to get off, she responds, I pull off the condom and tell her to jack me off. I want to shoot all over her tits.
The good little trooper she is, she responds right away. I get on my knees and she starts stroking my cock aiming it at her chest. Ok she wins, I cum all over her, she starts to rub it over her body, wow, makes me want to cum more.
Its late, I gotta go, we clean up, get dressed, head down stairs. I grab a cab and ask if she wants a ride back to the Cafe. She says sure. Drop her off, kiss and say see you another time.
Life is good.
LK
For all those visiting Manyuks you might want to try Amazonia. It is about a block north of LA Cafe on the same street. Its not quite as crowded as LA and seems to have a better quality selection wise fo your filipina companionship. Your efforts will run anywhere from the cost of dinner and a hotel to around P3K depending on your negotiating skills and whither she is "in the business" or a Coligeia on safari.
Happy hunting
For those who don't want the hassle of the KTV and Pick-up bars, Manila offers a great selection of freelance escorts. A good place to connect is in the Escorts section of the Manilatonight.com forum. You have to get 20 posting to get access to the real info on the site, but if you just post 20 jokes in that forum your in.
The great thing about the PI is that you can find anything (or anyone?) you want. It is definately a service oriented environment. The current queen of the escort trade in Manila is currently Lady Dhen, 24 Y.O., slim, long black hair, from the Bicol region. She raises customer satisfaction to a whole new level, a real GFE. She is most definately into the business, but since her rates are way under what she could get I have to assume she simply likes doing what she does and take it at face value. Her sessions usually open with a BBBJ that you dont easily forget. Unlike many others in the trade she will keep going until you beg her to stop. Oddly enough she doesn't like CIM, but she does like pushing the limit. After getting juniors attention, your options are only limited by your imagination and the locale you choose. I prefer the Victoria Court since their "Theme" rooms offer a variety I haven't found anywhere else. After 8 visits I haven't been in the same one twice. LD uses the jacuzzis at the VC to give a soapy rub down with her body designed to tease you to the max. By the time she gets you to the main event the expolision is on the order of karatoa. Part of the LD experience is that it goes on as long as you like (or have time for). If you can keep getting it up, Dhen takes it as a challenge to get every drop for as long as you can keep cumming. Wheter for a short time or for a weekend in Tagaytay her P2.5K rate was the same.
Member #2718,
There doesn't seem to be an Escorts section on the Manilatonight forum. After 21+ postings, I can see that the membership status changes to "regular member", but I don't see how this give you any more access to information.
When I try using the search feature, I get a message saying I don't have permission to use this feature. However, I get this message even after becoming a regular member.
When logging in as a regular member I don't notice any difference. What precisely is supposed to change?
Pure Logic
Pure logic,
When on the main page of Manilatonight.com go down and find the section labeled "AQUARIUM".
There are several subsections there 1) MTC PERSONALS for SEB and non-pros; 2) YAHOO PROFILES/FACEPICS/PERSONAL SITES; 3) ESCORTS, GROs & MP ATTENDANTS. The 3rd section is what your looking for.
The Escort Sub-section has about 4 pages of threads on everything from individual freelancers to the pimp contact pages. The threads are full of FRs on the girls so you can pick and choose exactly what your looking for. Taglish is common in the threads so that is sometimes a problem, but if you post or PM in English, you will get a respnse in kind.
Another section directly below the AQUARIUM has sub-threads for 1) PICK-UP POINTS; 2) KTVs, BARS & CLUBS; 3) MASSAGE PARLORS, SPAS & GYMS; 4) MOTELS, HOTELS & APARTELS which should be enough info to keep any monger busy for years.
The search function hasn't worked for a while and I'm not sure what happeneded with it.
Well I promised I would write my first report when I got back so here goes.
Week one was spent in Manila, never had the inclination to make the trip to Angeles. First three nights was spent in Heritage hotel next to EDSA, booked through asiatravel.com for $60 a night. This is a nice hotel but other than that the only thing going for the location is it being next to the EDSA complex. Makati is a much better area of town and is handy for Burgos Street, and when taxis are so cheap it’s not a big effort getting to and from EDSA. However, and not knowing before hand but there is a casino attached to the Heritage so if you want a spot of gambling in the afternoon it is very handy; VERY favorable rules for black jack with free sweets and water.
Night one was spent in LA cafe, nice place to chill and have a few beers, though I never thought much of the food after waiting for 45 minutes. Lots of freelancers and only one caught my eye so me and a friend went upstairs and I paid the 100 peso entrance for my guest. After a quick look around I quickly wished I hadn’t, much better talent although only one or two I would have bar fined straight away. Got a nice seat next to the place where the girls dance, hot girl dancing in short denim skirt with g-string, damn I wished I had brought my camera. My guest was meanwhile doing everything to get me off while sitting on my lap. A few SM lights later on went the beer goggles and we were off home to Heritage. I would rate her as 7 in looks and 8 in bed but it pisses me off when the girls start getting dressed at 9 in the morning when you are half asleep. A quick point to her and then the bed and an hour later she was off with 1500 pesos, probably too much for LA cafe.
Night two we went to EDSA and was immediately accosted by a GRO from Pitstop and by far the best looking Filipino I had seen so far and I knew she was for me that night, her name was Angel and she normally just works Thursday through Saturday. Very cute girl and definitely a 9, a bit shy at first but very GFE. I handed her 1500 pesos the next morning and she looked at me as if I was sh*t! Normally 3000 she said so I gave her another 1000 and off she went.
Night three went to Cafe Havana in Greenbelt 3, very nice place to have a meal and drinks and check out the talent walking by. Saw loads of girls at the tables giving us the eye, obviously on the prowl. Went to EDSA and Firehouse after, already a bit drunk and paid for three lady drinks before deciding on an 18 yo cutie called Melba, very hot dancer, pictures to be posted shortly in pics section. Very good in bed, BBBJ and CIM, 2000 pesos for all night.
Next day went to Makati to look for another hotel, tried City Garden in Makati, negotiated 2750 net for deluxe executive suite excluding breakfast. Nice rooms with bar and swimming pool on roof but there are only two lifts which the staff use constantly which gets a bit frustrating. No problems with bringing back the girls.
Night four, went to Burgos street and checked out the clubs. Same routine in each, all were almost empty, a group of girls surrounded us upon sitting down, followed by the usual questions then the mamasan hassles you for buying the girls a drink. I would have to agree with previous posters that the girls here are generally prettier than EDSA and definitely more so than LA cafe. Although there is a price to pay: 3000 bar fine (although Roxy’s is 1900), 3 to 5K for girl and if you agree to meet the girl later to save on the bar fine then you have to wait until 3 or 4 in the morning when the girl finishes.
In a club called ‘high and …?’ I forget, I was getting special attention from at least 6 girls and after getting a hard-on they were curious to see my prick so out it came to the amazement of my friend who was being kept busy himself. After getting a 10 second hand job I thought it was time to finally buy one of then a lady drink, cost 300 pesos. I negotiated with two girls for the night, 2000 each after they finished and at 4 o’clock sharp they showed up at the hotel after getting numerous texts saying ‘get ready baby cos we are comin’. I was ready but slightly disappointed when the cute one wouldn’t fuck because her red flag was waving. However she did do a great BBBJ when the other one (with large tits) licked my asshole and then moved up for some DATY. Got a second round later before they left at 12.
Only thing with Burgos is the high price and even if you are willing to wait to save on the bar fine, it kills you the next day with the lack of sleep but I suppose it depends what you want. I preferred EDSA although you have to search a little harder for the nice ones.
Day 5 arranged to a meet a girl I met having dinner the previous night at Greenbelt. When she finally arrived at the hotel 2 hours late ‘because of subject’? more likely because of another punter. She was so much hard work and would only communicate via text on her mobile because she said she was shy. A dozen texts later and a beer because she was so ‘shy’ she finally said ‘so you want sex for money?’. Once we started it was like a different girl, very enthusiastic and she came at least twice. Paid her 2000 pesos, for short time too much I know but it was the same girl my friend was after two night previous and had exchanged notes on napkins, she wanted 5000 pesos, my friend said 2000 pesos, she said she was not a cheap girl so my mate returned with a price of 1000 pesos - quite funny at the time. Later that night went back to EDSA and bar fined Melba from Firehouse again and paid her 1500 pesos.
Night 6 took same girl from Firehouse and her friend for a double date to Hard Rock. Not too much action going on I noticed so I was glad we had company, had fun with the girls dancing before heading back to the hotel.
Overall I was impressed with Manila but not in a hurry to go back. Week two was spent in Puerto Galera and Boracay and report will be posted in Other Areas of forum.
Robbo
Well I promised I would write my first report when I got back so here goes.
Week one was spent in Manila, never had the inclination to make the trip to Angeles. First three nights was spent in Heritage hotel next to EDSA, booked through asiatravel.com for $60 a night. This is a nice hotel but other than that the only thing going for the location is it being next to the EDSA complex. Makati is a much better area of town and is handy for Burgos Street, and when taxis are so cheap it’s not a big effort getting to and from EDSA. However, and not knowing before hand but there is a casino attached to the Heritage so if you want a spot of gambling in the afternoon it is very handy; VERY favorable rules for black jack with free sweets and water.
Night one was spent in LA cafe, nice place to chill and have a few beers, though I never thought much of the food after waiting for 45 minutes. Lots of freelancers and only one caught my eye so me and a friend went upstairs and I paid the 100 peso entrance for my guest. After a quick look around I quickly wished I hadn’t, much better talent although only one or two I would have bar fined straight away. Got a nice seat next to the place where the girls dance, hot girl dancing in short denim skirt with g-string, damn I wished I had brought my camera. My guest was meanwhile doing everything to get me off while sitting on my lap. A few SM lights later on went the beer goggles and we were off home to Heritage. I would rate her as 7 in looks and 8 in bed but it pisses me off when the girls start getting dressed at 9 in the morning when you are half asleep. A quick point to her and then the bed and an hour later she was off with 1500 pesos, probably too much for LA cafe.
Night two we went to EDSA and was immediately accosted by a GRO from Pitstop and by far the best looking Filipino I had seen so far and I knew she was for me that night, her name was Angel and she normally just works Thursday through Saturday. Very cute girl and definitely a 9, a bit shy at first but very GFE. I handed her 1500 pesos the next morning and she looked at me as if I was sh*t! Normally 3000 she said so I gave her another 1000 and off she went.
Night three went to Cafe Havana in Greenbelt 3, very nice place to have a meal and drinks and check out the talent walking by. Saw loads of girls at the tables giving us the eye, obviously on the prowl. Went to EDSA and Firehouse after, already a bit drunk and paid for three lady drinks before deciding on an 18 yo cutie called Melba, very hot dancer, pictures to be posted shortly in pics section. Very good in bed, BBBJ and CIM, 2000 pesos for all night.
Next day went to Makati to look for another hotel, tried City Garden in Makati, negotiated 2750 net for deluxe executive suite excluding breakfast. Nice rooms with bar and swimming pool on roof but there are only two lifts which the staff use constantly which gets a bit frustrating. No problems with bringing back the girls.
Night four, went to Burgos street and checked out the clubs. Same routine in each, all were almost empty, a group of girls surrounded us upon sitting down, followed by the usual questions then the mamasan hassles you for buying the girls a drink. I would have to agree with previous posters that the girls here are generally prettier than EDSA and definitely more so than LA cafe [in gerneral]. Although there is a price to pay: 3000 bar fine (although Roxy’s is 1900), 3 to 5K for girl and if you agree to meet the girl later to save on the bar fine then you have to wait until 3 or 4 in the morning when the girl finishes.
In a club called ‘high and …?’ I forget, I was getting special attention from at least 6 girls and after getting a hard-on they were curious to see my prick so out it came to the amazement of my friend who was being kept busy himself. After getting a 10 second hand job I thought it was time to finally buy one of then a lady drink, cost 300 pesos. I negotiated with two girls for the night, 2000 each after they finished and at 4 o’clock sharp they showed up at the hotel after getting numerous texts saying ‘get ready baby cos we are comin’. I was ready but slightly disappointed when the cute one wouldn’t fuck because her red flag was waving. However she did do a great BBBJ when the other one (with large tits) licked my asshole and then moved up for some DATY. Got a second round later before they left at 12.
Only thing with Burgos is the high price and even if you are willing to wait to save on the bar fine, it kills you the next day with the lack of sleep but I suppose it depends what you want. I preferred EDSA although you have to search a little harder for the nice ones.
Day 5 arranged to a meet a girl I met having dinner the previous night at Greenbelt. When she finally arrived at the hotel 2 hours late ‘because of subject’? more likely because of another punter. She was so much hard work and would only communicate via text on her mobile because she said she was shy. A dozen texts later and a beer because she was so ‘shy’ she finally said ‘so you want sex for money?’. Once we started it was like a different girl, very enthusiastic and she came at least twice. Paid her 2000 pesos, for short time too much I know but it was the same girl my friend was after two night previous and had exchanged notes on napkins, she wanted 5000 pesos, my friend said 2000 pesos, she said she was not a cheap girl so my mate returned with a price of 1000 pesos - quite funny at the time. Later that night went back to EDSA and bar fined Melba from Firehouse again and paid her 1500 pesos.
Night 6 took same girl from Firehouse and her friend for a double date to Hard Rock. Not too much action going on I noticed so I was glad we had company, had fun with the girls dancing before heading back to the hotel.
Overall I was impressed with Manila but not in a hurry to go back. Week two was spent in Puerto Galera and Boracay and report will be posted in Other Areas of forum.
Robbo
Guys,
Ive been getting so many PMs asking me for JR telephone number. If you need a guide in Manila call him on 0917 414 5416. Tell him your requirements and he will set you up.
Sorry for not replying to all the Pms.
FS
arrived in manila after a 14 hour flight. it was 5:30 am, so i knew that it would have to be skyline at it was the only massage parlor open before 12:00, and i just couldn’t wait until noon. i know it was considered by many to be the best mp in town with over 100 girls working there, but i also read that there were only 2 or 3 girls to choose if you went early in the morning. because my fiancé was arriving the next day for a two day visit, bringing a girl back to the room was not an option – yet.
checked into the aim conference hotel and was pleasantly surprised. 1,700 p for a nice sized room, in the heart of makati, with free in-room high speed internet (although it isn’t working yet due to the weekend and holiday, i’m sure it will once their it guy comes in to configure my laptop). i’ve paid the same for a dump in ermita. book it through asia travel for the discounted rate. after a quick shower, i rolled a joint (forgot my papers at home, so i had to use a cigarette), and it was off to skyline at the grand boulevard hotel.
i was surprised at how nice the grand boulevard hotel was. since it housed one of the largest full service mp’s in manila, i was expecting a rather low end hotel, but it appeared to rate about 4 stars – quite grand indeed. various signs indicating all of the hotels amenities, including a casino, but nothing to indicate the mp on the eighth floor.
as the elevator door opens, you see a big sign for the “skyline health club”. i guess they thought “skyline brothel” would sound tacky. from my many previous trips i knew to ignore most signs in manila and this was no exception, although a visit would be good for my health, if nothing more than to lighten my load.
went to the fishbowl and the manager called all available girls to the “showroom”. typical asian style with glass panels and thin strips cut out of the dark tint so that you can see them, but they can only see your eyes. three girls arrived, all of them cute, but no stunners – about what i expected. i picked a girl with a very pretty face and it was off to the room. the skyline has the whole 8th floor, so you get to have your session in a regular hotel room, which i like. the room boy said i had an hour and 15 minutes – plenty of time as i am used to 30 minutes back in the us. it was 1,220 p for the room (about $22).
she gave a long massage during which time she wanted to know all about me. was i married, why not, did i have a girlfriend, etc etc – the typical line if questions i get from all girls in philippines regardless of where i meet them. we had plenty of time, and she was quite nice, so i indulged her and gave my typical bullshit story.
after about half an hour she wanted to know if wanted special services, and how much i wanted to pay. i told her 1,500, she countered, with 2,000, and seeing no reason to haggle over $10, i said ok. your typical multi-position session with a very good covered blow job – so good i couldn’t even tell i was wearing a rubber. after a good pounding, i blew my load, thanked her, and was on my way.
since it was only a short walk from skyline to mabini st., i decided to check out la café and the new bar i had heard so much about, amazonia. it was about 11:00, so a good time to have a couple of drinks, especially since i was not planning on any more girls today. not that i wasn’t interested, but with my fiancé arriving tomorrow, it may be hard to convince her that i hadn’t sex in a week if i had just had two girls the day before.
amazonia was the first of its type i had ever seen in ermita. i understand that ermita was filled with them before that crazy mayor lim cracked down on them in the 80’s, after which time the scene moved to passay. it was good to see that things might be returning back to normal. the bar was dark inside with apparently two types of girls – the waitresses with black skirts (called natives) and the take out girls dressed in school girl uniforms (called classmates). as was typical of bars catering to western tourists, the take out girls were all petite (i would guess their ages to be in the early twenties), as opposed to the taller women that filipino men prefer. the video screens played a show that i would describe as “how to pick up bar girls 101”. basic tagalog terms, such as “you are beautiful” and “can i buy you a drink”, as well as informative ads such as “isaya now has short time rooms for 300p”. lots of cute and friendly women, but i couldn’t let myself get tempted. there was also a dance floor as well a stage. since i was one of only two customers in the place, i was getting a lot of attention. there were about 5 classmates, quite a lot considering that it was not even noon. this is certainly a place that i will return to as it must really rock at night. much more friendly and relaxed then the passay bars – quite similar to angeles bars, but without the drive.
next it was off to my favorite manila bar, la café. i saw about 15 girls there, with one that really got my attention, but again, i couldn’t let myself get tempted. she kept smiling at me, but i did my best to ignore her, although i wasn’t doing a very good job at it. it was about 15 to 3, including me, so again i got lots of attention. as opposed to past trips, none of the girls actually approached me. it appeared that management now discourages girls approaching men un-invited, and i appreciated that. i much prefer having a few drinks and making my own decision instead of the constant barrage of girls coming up to me and trying to get drinks, although this may only apply in the mornings. unfortunately, this same policy doesn’t apply to waitresses so there was no shortage of “hi, where are you from”. this was ok however, as the bar also has a policy of not hiring any dogs.
the next stop was robinsons mall to get some rolling papers from the cigar store, buy a cell phone, and get some food. since i had only gotten about 6 hours of sleep in the past two days, i was exhausted, so i went back to the hotel and fell asleep. i awoke at 5:00 am, i guess they call it jet lag, and wrote this day one report. i decided to write a thorough day one report because considering my very busy schedule for the rest of my trip (i am here on business), i may not have any time for future reports (and if i don’t, the abbreviated version will be girls, girls, more girls, and then some more girls)
Mahku,
I was surprised to hear that you had to pay a fee to bring a lady into the Hyatt in Pasay. I have stayed there at least 4 different times this year, a total of about 20 nights, and I have never had any problem bringing a young thing in the front door and up to my room. The first time I stayed there, I came in late at night with a spinner from LA Cafe and I only had to tell the doorman that she was "with me" and they had her sign in the book at the door. I found through experience that you could get past this process easily enough if the girl you were with looked like she was a girl friend, and dressed appropriately for the hotel. The last two times I have stayed there, I have never been questioned about the girl I was bringing in, and I guess I just have that look on my face that they shouldn't ask my "girlfriend" to sign in. Anybody stay at the new Hyatt Casino yet?
I visited the EDSA complex last nite, my last nite in the PI. There were about a half dozen bars with lots of girls. The quality seemed as good as Makati, with lots of girls in the the 7 to 8 range. There were also a few knockouts. I thought Samba Bar had the best lookers. The bar fine at EDSA is P1000, regardless of short time or all nite. You negotiate with the girls for their price. They were quoting P2500 for short time, which they said is three hours, but would probably negotiate down to P2000. They wanted P3000 to P4000 for all nite. Some of the knockouts only did short time. One girl promised me all nite for P2000 but changed her tune after we arrived at my room. She then settled for P1500 for short time after I threatened to go to the mamasan. Later that nite I spoke to the complex's # 1 knockout about prices. She told me that if a girl from EDSA quotes P2000 for all nite, she is giving you BS and will make an excuse to leave early. My impression is that EDSA is a high quality place, but too expensive. I would be curious about other mongers' experiences there.
Will, I finial visited Manila. I arrived at 10:40pm and found the drive there to pickup guest for the Swangman Hotel. I had booked a room there before I left the USA.
THere were two other riders i nthe van. THe Hotel is not much to speak of
room. It had A/C, mini bar and was clean. After I checked in and showered, I walked over to the LA cafe.
I have read alot about it on the forum. I had to see it.
I arried ther about 12:30 am, the place was packed. I walked arroundthe lower level and then went up stairs.
During my walk, I got several smile and ladies grabbing my arm. After about 15 mins of wandering thru the place I got a beer and started watching the girls play pool. I talked to several girls, but did not see anything I was interested in, so after about one hour I went back ot the hotel to get some rest. I got tired of all the stories the girls were telling me.
After a good rest, I showered and when to the 7 th floor Heath club at Grand hotel. Like in the previous post, it was 1220 php, fish bowl format. Pick a girl and paid the 1220 php. Massage was average at best, agree to 1500php for extras. first CBJ, it was ok. Then fucked several postions. Over all the experience as average.
I then went back to hotel and my ride was rther to go to AC. I like AC better.
Manila is ok But I am not sure if I will stay over any more.
I normally go from the airport to AC directly. After reading the forum, i thought I would stay one day in Manila and see want onther were talking about.
I will be back in the Phils in Feb and Mar, I I may check out EDSA on one of those trips.
Doc.
I've never been to Manila.
I've spent some time in Thailand. I came to appreciate some of the older women (28 to 35) that can be found via agencies, or occasionally working free lance. Frequently they were semi-pros who worked a few days a month to make ends meet, pay for luxuries or put a sibling through school. Their day jobs were often clerical in nature.
What I'm not looking for are old, physically and mentally used up, pros who are fighting to hang on.
I'll be spending a few days in Manila early next year. Can anyone recommend a good place or agency to hook up with classy, older (28-35 years old) semi-pros?
Yak
Well, I've been here two weeks now so it's about time for an update. I'll give a quick run down of a list of the best bars and some general observations.
I've been coming to the Philippines for several years and I don't think the quality of the girls has ever been better. For some reason, there appears to be fewer customers in the bars, but as many or more women than in the past. Many of the bars are packed with girls, with only two or three customers in the place, even late at night. My rating of the bars are:
1) Firehouse. This place still has the best meat in town. A typical night has 30 to 40 girls and 5 or 6 customers. Why the best and most well known bar has only 5 customers is a great mystery to me. I'm there at least a couple of times a week. Always at least a couple of hotties here, and I have yet to find a taxi driver who doesn't know the place. You can tell them EDSA entertainment complex, or Edsa extension at Roxas and they sometimes give you a puzzed look, but as soon as you say the Firehouse, they say "ah, the firehouse. Ok". Bar fine is still only a 1,000 Pesos, and the girls generally want 2,000 for a short time (a couple of hours) and 3,000 for all night, but will accept about 500 pesos less. My only compaint is the 17 year old virgins that them mamasans try to sell for 50,000. I know business is slow, but do they really have to stoop that low?
2) Visions nightclub on Roxas. This is one of the best kept secrets of the Manila bar scene. I've been there twice this trip and once last trip, and taken a girl from the bar every time. It is rare to find a bar with 100 sucess ratio. Usually about 30 girls in the place, but only a about 3 customers. The dutch owner has no problem finding a lot of cute girls, but can't seam to find any customers. Also, I find the girls here nicer then the other bars, and a much more relaxed atmosphere then say the firehouse. Bar fine is 1,000 Peso, and the girls will take pretty much whatever you give them.
3) The rest of the bars at the EDSA entertainment complex. While none is quite is good as the firehouse, I found some real hotties here. I've found My Fair Lady and Samba to be the best, and Pitstop and spacegirls to be the worst, but it varies. Cotton Club and Casino tend to be middle of the road.
4) P. Burgoss st bars. The bars here tend to be more expensive, and the woman of slightly lower quality then the Passay (EDSA, Roxas) bars. But there are so many bars here, with so many women, it can't be missed. Ladies drinks run 300 pesos and bar fine run 2 to 3 thousand. I've found the best bars to be Bottoms and Flamingo. Some of the bars are filled with some older and very agressive woman, and these should be avoided, but I never really kept notes on which ones they were. Bilboard is a unique bar. A lot of the women here are unavailable, but it has really upbeat, fun atmosphere with probably the best dancers in Makati. The Jools show is also very good, but set to appeal to the older set.
5) LA Cafe. The pickup bar that everyone either loves or hates. The word is seriously out about this place, as it is busier then it has ever been in the past. Forget about going there Saturday night as you will not be able to move or find a seat, even upstairs. The quality is generally pretty low, but you can find a real babe if you are lucky. About 95% are hags that return day in and day out, but you also have the 5% that show up for the first time because they heard it was a great place to meet a foreigner. A real cutie that I barfined in Angeles told me she lost her virginity a month ago to a guy she met in LA Cafe, and she wasn't going there as a ***** (but she soon became one).
Angeles city.
Since I am "stuck" in Manila on business, I have only been able to make to Angeles for two nights, but what fun those nights they were! Angeles girls tend to be nicer and then Manila woman and much more eager to stay the entire night. They are much less expensive at 1,000 pesos all in, but are usually not as cute as the EDSA girls. However, you should have no problem finding a hottie to take home. Surprisingly, Saturday night is the best night in the Angeles bars as well as the Manila bars. I would have thought that there would be more competition from guys on a saturday night, but the number of customers stays stable every day, but apparently a lot more woman work on Saturdays. Saturday night in Angeles is just ridiculous. I had found 4 women that I bought drinks for thatrated at a 9, and I really coundn't decide which one to take home. The blue nile exectuve club had so many babes that I couldn't stand up due to the hard on I had. And I couldn't even see all of them as the stage was piled about 4 rows deep.
The best bars in Angeles are:
1) Blue nile executive club. A very classy layout that attracts the best girls in Angeles. The only problem is that it gets so packed, it is hard to find a seat.
2) Neros forum.
3) Las Vegas club
4) Bedrock. A small bar next to Neros forum, but in this trip as well as my last, had some of the cutest girls in town.
5) Blue nile.
Massage parlors
The best ones are still in Quezon, about a 35 minute drive from Ermita. I would rank Sylvanus, at the Pegasus club (every taxi driver knows it) as the best. Skyline at the Grand Boulevard is convenient if you don't want to go all the way to Quezon, but the girls there are not as cute.
L.A.W.
Thanks for the insights. I appreciate the update as it's been too long since my last visit. Hopefully, that will change soon.
"Visions". Is that the bar that used to be "Vixens" then "Chaos" ? If so, I too have had many good times there.
FD
BTW guys, we all need to do a better job proof reading our posts before submitting.
Greetz all,
First time to post here after a long time of reading, anyway just wanted to mention that LA Cafe has mamasan's working the joint, quite obvious if you can read the play, and best to avoid them and their girls unless you like paying higher prices.
I was told Amazonia was not a place you could take girls from. Anyone taken one from there yet?
Nothing ever is as it seems.
Spent a few days in Manila.
To my delight quite a healthy scene is developing around the M.H. Del
Pilar, Padre Faura, Mabini St. area in Ermita/Malate. Several little
bars have opened in the past few months, possibly encouraged by L.A.
Cafe's success.
Have been waved into one while heading to LA. Tiny bar with about 5
friendly girls. All single mothers but reasonable looking, 18-22 years and eager to please. Rate P1500 Long Time. This is total cost, including BF plus girl's fee. No more to pay. Medically supervised, they say.
You pay upfront. Didn't buy them drinks but had a little chat. Moved on to
LA later on but it would be worth going back one day. Simply because
they are not freelancers and their particulars are kept on record at
the bar. Just in case. Bit wary to sleep with a freelancer in Manila.
At the LA. now there are Mamasans who look after many of the girls (not
sure if all). She introduced herself and sent around several reasonable lookers. All very friendly but not up to Angeles standards in looks. Rates seem to have stabilised at P1500 overnight in this area which is a good sign.
1200 goes to the girl and 300 to mamasan. You pay AFTER. I think that the
'nicer' girls don't do ST. The crappier ones might. As usual the nicer
Filippinas would rather be your 'friend' than just simply fuck. The
waitresses also seem quite approachable and keen to set up after-hours
dates. Some finish at midnight, some at 1am, etc.
Saw one very beautiful Filipina on two consecutive nights upstairs.
Perfect model looks, very tall. She wasn't too keen to make contact
like the others and left both nights alone. All the other girls were
average in looks or below, certainly not up to Angeles standards.
By the way the cigarette smoke upstairs is a killer at LA. Makes your
eyes and lungs burn after an hour or so. Hopefully they will soon
follow the example of Makati bars where designated smoking and NS
areas are set.
Although occupancy is up I think that the quality has taken a dive at
LA. compared to one year ago. The music also sucks. There must be
better bands in town that play something danceable.
About Robinson's Shopping Centre:
Although there were some girls keen to make eyecontact and one
(ladyboy looking) even waved but the scene sucks. There simply aren't
enough foreigners there to attract the girls. Went there a couple of
nights for shopping and saw a total of about 3-5 foreigners per night. Also, it's not a nice place to meet. The locals would resent it if that became a
pickup place. It's simply uncomfortable to initiate conversations there
in the midst of shoppers as compared to the relaxed atmosphere of a
bar.
All in all, keep looking as it seems that something nice is starting in
Ermita and prices are about to stabilise at P1500 L/T which is a reasonable
figure. But considering the number of shanti-towns in that city and how
many beautiful girls may live there, even P500/pop would be a
realistic figure in the future (couple of days wages of a factory worker).
Hotels:
About which hotel is 'girl friendly'? It would be easier to count those
which aren't. As most of them in this area (Ermita/Malate) are. Practically everywhere you pay for double occupancy and two breakfasts anyway. Some places may simply add 1 or 200 pesos to your bill for double but wouldn't make a fuss. The Philippinos themselves are indeed very promiscous so they don't normally make a big issue of this.
[s][b]Thu Nov 4, 2004[/b] [i]rank/score: *******/0[/i][/s]
My posts are intended to describe the learning experiences of someone with minimal mongering experience.
My adventure begins when I exit the international airport. I travel light, so I refuse the taxis and walk left. A guards asks where I'm going, and I reply "Casino Filipino" and he points me down the street. Most of the jeepneys there have signs saying Baclaran, and when I hop inside one, everyone politely ignores my existence. I quietly murmur "bayad ho", and hands are immediately extended and my 100P bill is passed from person to person to the driver. The change comes back the same way, 94.5P. Fares are posted in the jeepney (0-4km 5.5P and 1P for each additional km).
The people inside are helpful and a woman tells me which jeepney I need to take to get to Ermita. In Baclaran, take a jeepney marked Mabini. There’ll be others signs such as Dapitan, Quiapo, Harrison Plaza, or Divisoria which are also on the route. I get off at Salas St and walk to the Ermita Tourist Inn. The rooms are much better than I expected. The water is hot, water pressure is good, toilet and A/C works, and the room is very clean and tiled. The rooms gets cold quickly because it’s so small. The price is 660P, which includes a breakfast. I was expecting to pay 1200P for this type of room.
By the time I shower, it’s raining, but LA Cafe is a 2 minute walk away. It is 7pm and I am surprised by the quality of the girls. Quality seems slightly better than what I see in the malls, the jeepneys, or at the airport. When I first step in, someone wants to introduce me to her sexy friend. Very sexy and cute indeed, but I say I want to take my time, and I am left alone. I stand around 10 minutes before being asked to buy a drink. Several girls approach me, but I am not sure what to look for as I have no baseline or frame of reference to work with.
Thinking that any experience is good experience, I play along with the third girl who approaches me. This girl, 19, calls herself Cacai and proves to be what is probably the epitome of the hardened pro that I have so often read about in this forum. She is small, slim, and fun. She was fairly direct in suggesting that she wants to fuck, be paid, and be gone. She smokes, drinks, and has several injuries from a bar fight with a another girl.
We go to have dinner and she orders too much, but I make sure not to walk into a high-end place. There are no posted prices, but the bill comes to a surprisingly low 300P. She asks to bag the extra food and donates it to the homeless on the street.
In the bedroom, she’s in a hurry to get the deed over quickly. She is skilled and uses her tongue in all the right genital areas, but rushed and mechanical. We use my condoms, and I wouldn’t trust someone else’s. It’s all over in about 10 minutes. I give her more than I think it was worth, 500P, and predictably she wants at least 1000P. I tell her I know the prices, and I’ll be happy to argue with her all night. She argues for 15 minutes, trying to get at least 100-200P more. Suddenly, she says okay and leaves.
I fall asleep and wake up before 3am. I sneak past the security guard who’s asleep. I see Amazonia (open 24h) and Harry’s Bar (dead at this time of the day) down the street, but choose to go back into LA Cafe. The second level is open and alive. This time I fend off the hardened pros who approach me. Then Rose approaches me and we spend the next 5-6 hours together. She is average looking, but attractive. She leads and keeps going the conversation, so there’s no conversational skill required on my part. She says she’s a singer of a band that performs in LA Cafe each Friday. She’s the only girl in the band and she’s waiting for the guys who are out partying. They have the van and will bring her home. She says she doesn’t like the foreigners who approach her and assume she is like the other girls. The other girls will say “I love you” when they’ve just met you. (In the case of Cacai, she’s right, she did say that to me.) She doesn’t smoke, drink, and is a nursing student. She keeps asking me if I want her to leave me alone.
I ask her about the stamp on her wrist. She says girls must pay 100P to go upstairs until 3am. But the other band members have gone downstairs, so she’s here alone. The other band members never show up and at 8:20am I return to my room. I return to the bar at 8:40am, but she is not where she said she’d be waiting. I had asked her why she doesn’t just go home instead of waiting all night, and she says she can’t afford it. The only money I spend on her is 20P for a round of pool. She gives me her cell number, but doesn’t reply when I text her after buying a cell phone.
The continuation will be posted in the Angeles forum.
[s][b]Fri Nov 12 to Fri Nov 19, 2004[/b] [i]rank/score: fop/3[/i][/s]
This is the continuation of my posts in the Angeles section.
Over the next seven days, I gain experience visiting hospitals in the Manila area. In all hospitals I went to, it is possible to ask for a doctor referral at the information desk and see a doctor the same day. 500P seems to be a standard consultation fee. Most of the expense is from laboratory fees, ER fees, and medications. Near the LRT / metrorail station at UN ave on Taft, there are two major hospitals that are a bit run-down. The Manila Medical Center is just east and the Manila Doctors Hospital is just west. My lab tests at the latter place all turn out negative, so a week later, I go to the much more modern-looking Asian Hospital by the Metropolis mall in Alabang where I pay about 10000P for a more extensive suite of lab tests. To reach this hospital, it is possible to take the south-bound bus on Taft Ave, which goes along Quirino, Osmena Hwy, and finally the expressway. This bus takes over an hour. From Ayala Ave in Makati, the bus only takes 20 minutes because it’s near the expressway. Taxis are no faster because travel time is determined by traffic conditions. I’ve never had to wait more than 5 minutes for a bus anywhere in Manila.
I spend my free time dating girls I met online. Three of them in all, and the meetings are set up with relatively little effort. I basically went to meet the first three girls who agreed to do so. I had invested some time accumulating contacts before coming here, which was a bit tedious because I don’t have any patience for maintaining online or long-distance relationships.
The first girl is 25 and living alone in Makati. She’s a student and apparently doesn’t work. I’ve never gone on a date a girl this classy and beautiful. She’s not the tall, fair-skinned model type, but more attractive in my opinion. We meet near the Havana Cafe in Greenbelt at 8:30pm on Friday. We walk from place to place, including Temples, where the models, actresses, and MTV crews hang out. We part on cold terms. She says “nice to meet you”, but may have meant “I wish I hadn’t met you”. Later, when I text her, suggesting I may have been her worst date, she replies “UR NT WORST”.
Seven years ago, I wrote a letter to a girl in Cavite. She replied four years after receiving my letter and gave me two phone numbers. On Sunday, I text both numbers and immediately receive a reply. The same evening, we go out to dinner. She’s 25 now and still single.
Monday evening, I chat with a girl from the Batangas province. We agree that I’ll stop by her internet cafe the next day. On Tuesday, I take a two hour bus there from Manila. The day before, she had told me to text her from the church and she would come to pick me up. Instead, I don’t text her at all and decide to surprise her by showing up at her shop unannounced.
It’s a tiny store, but crowded, so I text her and wait for her to come out. She doesn’t. I’m told by her sister that she’s not there. This must be her 16 year old sister, I muse. She’s extremely good-looking, suggesting that her sister must be, too. But she tells me they are identical twins and both 24.
I call the girl on her cell, but it seems to be turned off. The twin sister cannot tell me where her sister went or when she will come back. A guy in the store keeps asking me how long I intend to wait for her. I say I want to see the identical twins next to each other because I find it so hard to believe. After nearly an hour of waiting around in the store, the twin sister decides to take a bath. She comes out seconds later with her hair wet. Did she just wash her hair that quickly? No, she’s followed by another one of her with dry hair. Turns out the girl never expected me to show up because we were just chatmates, and she was afraid to face me because she had a fake picture in her profile. The tall, fair-skinned model type depicted in the photo is not her, no surprise there. I spend most of the day observing their day-to-day life at the store.
I work on setting up second dates with all three girls with varying degrees of effort. I meet the first girl a second time, but I suggest we go home after a while because she just isn’t interested anymore. The girl with the twin sister seems much more interested in me, but eventually I conclude that she’s more interested in pursuing virtual online relationships than real ones. I suppose the fact that she has free access to the internet makes her an unwise pick.
I spend some time looking for domestic tickets. The agencies charge slightly more than the airline offices themselves. PAL seems to charge more than Cebu Pacific. I didn’t find any advance purchase discounts and pricing seems rigid, regardless on what day you travel. Either the promo rate is available or it is not. I found the best fares at the Cebu Pacific office at the Robinson’s mall in Ermita.
Almost by accident, I ran into a very nice full-service massage parlor.
They offer body-body massage, front and back, BBBJ with both hot tea and ice water (quite a thrill), sex in different positions, and an actual massage afterward. I only had one girl, and while she was a little chubby, she made up for it with big breasts and a decent (for a Korean) ass. Overall, it cost 120,000 won for an hour of pure pleasure.
It is a little out of the way, though. If you were to go by taxi from Gangnam, it would end up about 10,000 won. On the other hand, you can take the number 7 line and get off at Sangbong, then hop in a taxi and say "anma" ("massage" in Korean), as there is only one in the neighborhood. They just opened up under the same owner as a nice place I used to go to in Apkujeong, but that place is currently closed down because of the crackdown, so the new place isn't having any problems with the police, obviously, probably because they are so distant.
[QUOTE=Mahku]Almost by accident, I ran into a very nice full-service massage parlor.
They offer body-body massage, front and back, BBBJ with both hot tea and ice water (quite a thrill), sex in different positions, and an actual massage afterward. I only had one girl, and while she was a little chubby, she made up for it with big breasts and a decent (for a Korean) ass. Overall, it cost 120,000 won for an hour of pure pleasure.
It is a little out of the way, though. If you were to go by taxi from Gangnam, it would end up about 10,000 won. On the other hand, you can take the number 7 line and get off at Sangbong, then hop in a taxi and say "anma" ("massage" in Korean), as there is only one in the neighborhood. They just opened up under the same owner as a nice place I used to go to in Apkujeong, but that place is currently closed down because of the crackdown, so the new place isn't having any problems with the police, obviously, probably because they are so distant.[/QUOTE]
[color=blue][b]Mahku[/b][/color]
I am confused here are you talking about Manila, Philippines here?
[color=blue][b]Juniour[/b][/color]
Sorry about that post from 11:20 at 7 am. I have no idea how that got there because I haven't been anywhere near the Korea board. Must be the new software. I'll try again and I hope Jackson erases that other one because it has nothing to do with me.
I was surprised about the fee also because they tried to spring it on me at checkout time without any prior notification. We called the manager and he explained it was a joiner fee for the girl. My girl, who was there with me, realized that they were basically calling her a prostitute/bargirl. She isn't that at all. I met her through a friend's introduction. When this manager saw that his eyes were about to be scratched out by my lady friend he relented on the joiner fee. This wise move saved his skin to nickel and dime foreign tourists another day.
I'm not sure if this is a regular policy. The hotel seemed to have it in for me because I was staying on a Cebu Pacific discount rate. Every day they were trying to get me to check out or pay a higher rate. On the fourth day they actually told me I had to move out, even though this airline discount rate is supposed to be valid for a week. So I moved over to the City Garden in Makati, which I can recommend to anyone. It's guest friendly and has a rooftop pool and gym.
As for the Hyatt Pasay I'll never go near the place again. They also hassled me about the discount rate when I checked in, saying it was only for Philippine residents. There is no mention of this requirement in any brochures and none of the other hotels who have this Cebu Pacific discount have this rule. After lots of trouble they reluctantly gave me the discount, but then hassled me every day I was there. So they saved a little money this time but for my future trips to the Philippines (2 months or so a year) they won't get my business.
That's a great post about a KOREAN MP, but it is obviously in the wrong place. Of course, I have to admit, that there have been times when I was in the midst of a multi-week, multi-nation trek when I have gotten more than a little confused about exatly where I was. Let's write it off to the old, "If this is Saturday this must be Seoul" syndrome.
Randy
Couple weeks ago decided to explore Pasay bars and also stop by famous LA Cafe.
The first night I went to EDSA Complex. First stop was Samba. There were about 25 ladies there but initially none really caught my attention. Finally, I spotted one and invited her to the table for a drink. To my disappointment she had a red flag waiving. Although she was trying to persuade me to take her for "unforgettable BJ", I passed on the offer and went further to Pitstop, which had worse collection of girls. Ended up in Firehouse where mamasan suggested me a real cutie. She was not really my type (too short) but she had nice curves and good attitude. It was getting a bit late and I had to go to work the next day, so I quickly bar-fined her (1,000 pesos) and went to the nearby motel for a short time. She was a typical filipina - shower by herslef only, cover herself immediately with a towel and fucking with lights off only. After 2 hours of decent blowjobs followed by fucks in some unimaginable positions (I discovered an advantage of having sex with a small lady) I dropped her off by the EDSA complex. Her fee was 2,000 pesos. It was an average experience.
The next day went to LA Cafe. Lots of people but too many guys and very few good looking ladies. Exited very quickly and headed back to Pasay. This time decided to try Visions located on Roxas Boulevard (right before the corner with Buendia avenue). That's really a hidden gem. There are definitely more good looking ladies than in any bar in EDSA Complex. I still think that the place to find stunners is Burgos street, but Visions had much less aggressive environment and only 1,000 pesos bar fine. The drinks were 110 for guest and 300 for ladies. Ended up taking out one really sexy girl for short time. Was thinking to take her to the motel, as I usually do, but she was so sweet that I decided to take a chance and took here to my place for overnight. She gave me a real GF experience. Took her number and have spent the next week with her. The only problem is to keep my head sober - not to fall for her and not let her to get high expectations for future. Experiences like this make my intentions of quitting mongering very difficult to make.
I do not understand all the bad things I read about LA Cafe. Everytime I go there it is about 10 ladies for every guy. And there are many good looking ladies there. What is up with you guys?
[QUOTE=HRC]The next day went to LA Cafe. Lots of people but too many guys and very few good looking ladies. Exited very quickly and headed back to Pasay. [/QUOTE]
Ray,
Everyone has their own opinion what a beauty looks like, so you may find someone you thin is pretty, but to others, her features may not be for other guys. I just thank the others for posting their experiences, so I know where to look the next time I am there.
The Bear
After a few visits, you can really get the entire vibe of LA Cafe down. I like it to effortlessly drink to excess without any hassle about lady drinks while you still get to indulge in a sea of girls looking to hook up. Quality can vary as has been covered here at length, but with at least a hundred girls there, you can surely find a few that motivate you.
I will note that methamphetamine (shabu) use among the regular girls there is pretty common.
There is also a far amount of unprotected sex and the STDs that go with them.
Befriended a trio of usual suspects there and they tagged along to Puerto Galera. I ended up getting them all treated at the clinic near the market in PG. They all admitted occassional unprotected sex and all had crank problems (which I didn't realize until we were out of Manila). There were some exceptional fringe benefits to taking a roadtrip with three hotties. In hindsight, I should have cut them loose in Manila to ply the patrons of LA Cafe instead of driving me nuts in PG for a week.
Hope this is statng the obvious, but always wear a raincoat.
The last time I passed through Manila I visited Pitstop (the one with the cars sticking out the walls?) and paid BF for a girl called Jena? 25ish really nice arse. Am planning another visit one night only and would like to hook up with her again. But if she's not there I will get a hotel near P. Burgos and check out that scene. So if anyone goes to Pitstop please try and find out if she still works there, thanks in advance.
PS She's a nice girl, fantastic arse, very open minded, no holes barred type and enjoys a threesome(or so she promised next time)
[s][b]Thu Dec 9, 2004[/b] [i]rank/score: fop/6[/i][/s]
I entered Visions Nite Club at 7:50pm. It’s open from 7pm until 3am. Happy Hour is from 7-8pm and beer costs 55P during that time. Ladies drinks are 195P or 299P for a “special” ladies drink, whatever that means.
The girls looked maybe slightly better than in an Angeles bar. Black Hole in Cebu City had much better looking girls. However the lack of interest on the part of the girls was the same in both Black Hole and Visions. I could not establish eye contact with any of the girls, while in Angeles I have no problem doing so. This may be because there are so few customers that the girls have become accustomed to ignoring them. The mamasan was quite pushy in getting me to buy a ladies’ drink. She called a girl down before I had agreed to it. By then I had seen and observed enough so I left.
I went to Amazonia and it had a much nicer atmosphere. I was there from around 9:20-10:50pm. The waitresses seem to like chatting with customers. When I returned the following day it was the same. In LA cafe it seems there are many more freelancers who approach customers, but in Amazonia there are many more waitresses who approach customers. I also noticed that LA cafe wanted 100P from me for going upstairs, which I presume is a recent change in their policy.
[s]Coordinates:
G-Point Pub: N 14 deg 34.691’ E 120 deg 58.884’
Slouch Hat: N 14 deg 34.748’ E 120 deg 58.754’
LA Cafe: N 14 deg 34.527’ E 120 deg 58.877’
Visions: N 14 deg 33.100’ E 120 deg 59.401’
Amazonia: near LA Cafe, a little north
Harry’s Pub: near Amazonia, a little north
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ventured out to another area this past trip to manila. took in an evening at dynasty and athena on roxas boulevard in pasay city. there were mainly locals and koreans at both places. dynasty had some great girls and two passed on their specifics so we can hook up later. athena, well, it was same same but very different. not as fun with very pushy managers. at both places, you will get slammed for ladies drinks and mamasan drinks and cab driver drinks and christmas tips. the list is endless. unless you just want to be fawned over by hotties in evening wear for a few hours and a few benjamins, just go to edsa and cut to the chase.
rumor on the streets is that the quezon city establishments were recently raided and they have been laying low. if true, that is a shame as stardust is top quality. i will explore more on my next trip to manila soon.
been at at least a dozen 4 and 5 star hotels in manila in the last year and none has even peeped about bringing a guest (or two or three or four!) back to the room. in cebu, my friend had to "register" at the casino waterfront, but that was to protect me. it is also fairly common practice for the front desk to ring you up if your guest leaves unattended in the middle of the night (er, morning). they just want to make sure the guest is ok, not the girl. the girls expect this and none i have met seem the least bit put out by this.
i took taxis to and from makati central and the airport four times over the past week. get a metered taxi and it should be around 70 to 80 pesos. i advise not taking a hotel taxi as it is not necessary. just make sure the driver turns on the meter. tip what you will. getting a taxi when you first land is a bit more difficult with the set price (pay at the airport) of 250 pesos to makati on a metered taxi. beware of taking your hotel taxi because you may end up with a 500 pesos (or more) add on to your bill.
with a couple of hours to kill before my flight, i decided to try out air force one. i had a little trouble getting the directions after i got the number thru information, but the cabbie got on the line and off we went. it is located a mile or so just past the entrance to naia i at 888 ninoy aquino avenue (820.7249/820.7250). the place is a large, new building. very swank and lots of folks willing to assist. the name of the spa is actually flight 168 health spa and it is adjacent to the ktv. there are two floors to the spa. one is designated economy class and the other is business class. the only difference in the two is the quality of the rooms. the price goes up with the class, of course.
it is as luxurious as any establishment i have attended in manila. yet, the prices were reasonable and stated up front. in economy, it was 1200 pesos for the room (75 minutes) and the same for the masseuse. they gave me the special (before 7 pm) price. to choose the lady, they have the one-way mirror/window and you can choose between 30-40 girls.
the girls in first class or business were essentially no better looking, so i decided one economy.
the room was very clean. it had a shower and she assisted. pleasant personality. very cute. subpar massage, but we ended up enjoying each other fully. it was really a fun way to leave manila before my flight.
Fellow Mongers: I am a verteran of China, Vietnam, Thailand, and lots of other places but only going to Maniila for the first time.
Need advice-- will be staying at Edsa Shangrila-Mandaluyong (girl-friendly?) and would like upscale escort service delivered to my room, given tricky situation of business meetings there.
Any contacts? Like all types, full service.
Greatly appreciated!
Decan,
EDSA Shnagri-La hotel is girl friiendly. The staff is nice and the location is great for dining and shopping.
I have used several escort agencies in the past and I finally found one that I actually like. It is well managed and has a good selection of girls. The prices are not cheap (ranges from USD100 to USD500) but you could get some really nice girls. I do not think I can post the contact info here because of spam issues. So send me PM for information.
Cheers,
HRC
[QUOTE=HRC]Decan,
EDSA Shnagri-La hotel is girl friiendly. The staff is nice and the location is great for dining and shopping.
I have used several escort agencies in the past and I finally found one that I actually like. It is well managed and has a good selection of girls. The prices are not cheap (ranges from USD100 to USD500) but you could get some really nice girls. I do not think I can post the contact info here because of spam issues. So send me PM for information.
Cheers,
HRC[/QUOTE]Unless the PI has changed significantly, this is a huge rip-off. No, let me rephase that: Regardless, whether or not the PI has changes significantly, this is a huge rip-off. Unfortunately, someone may just bite.
I suppose "rip-off" would be subjective - if HRC has the means, and if he finds the women to his liking, then he should have the luxury of being "ripped off".
From what I've gathered, and from my one experience with Benz, there seems to be a huge quality gap, from a Pinoy's perspective, in what they offer.
We lust for the mestizas on the high end in the 40 to 140k range, for 3hrs.
Resident pinoys may have the extra incentive in that they have seen thse celebs, starlets on the big screen.
As a non-resident, their being celebs has no value - and neither am I going to pay $2,500/3hrs for talent that I can get in the german FKKs or Prague.
They must be doing good business, and only wish them well.
On the other end, Benz' stable (5 to 10k) seem to be students, and not exactly the type that Pinoys go for, for they don't seem to be a notch above the bar girls' level, beauty-wise.
I do wish some agency would offer the middle ground - educated, non-bargirl looking types in the 5 to 10k range.
Which probably leaves places like Stardust for folks like me - 10 to 15k for longer than 3hrs and with mestiza types. Which is exactly where I'll be next month, prowling the QC area, and away from LA cafe and the agencies..
Most of my visits to Manila have involved trips to either EDSA or P.Bugos area with the occassional stop off at Skyline.
Having heard a lot about Miss Universal I want to make a call in there on my next trip this week - can any one provide any information for me.
Cheers
[QUOTE=HarryDHo]Unless the PI has changed significantly, this is a huge rip-off. No, let me rephase that: Regardless, whether or not the PI has changes significantly, this is a huge rip-off. Unfortunately, someone may just bite.[/QUOTE]Good call Harry. I would have never noticed it until you pointed it out. It looks like these 2 messages were from 1 person.
The obvious thing is that there is no meaning in having an escort agency in Manila. The bottom line is, if you can't get laid in the Philippines, then there is no hope for you in any country.
All readers beware of bullshit posts.
[QUOTE=HarryDHo]Unless the PI has changed significantly, this is a huge rip-off. No, let me rephase that: Regardless, whether or not the PI has changes significantly, this is a huge rip-off. Unfortunately, someone may just bite.[/QUOTE]
I agree that this is most likely a rip off. However, I have seen and once experienced a more expensive girl in the PI. Went to a club with a taxi about four years ago. The place was very nice and I had a good time. The mama set me up with one of the pretties girl I had ever seen. Great body as well. Beautiful Pinay with all the breast and ass any man could desire.
I agreed to the price of $3,000 peso, even though I was accustomed to paying $1,000 peso at EDSA during that time. Little did I know that this was for one pop and she was ready to leave. I complained to her that it was for all night, but she insisted she has to go. She did give me her phone number, but I was leaving the next morning so I never called her. I had the impression that more could be had with her if I called her directly.
To the point. I thought was that this girl was definitely a better level of beauty than I usually select from P. Burgos or EDSA or other places. I hope my past pictures speak for themselves in that I do know what beauty truly is.
So, it may be worth it and it may not depending on the monger. Some may just like to idea of never leaving the room and knowing 100% they will get sex. We could all do the Internet date route, but again the monger may not be able to do this and just want the convenience and guarantee just like being in the USA.
FF
Had stayed previously at Inter Continental makati but this time due to business arrangement will be staying at Edsa Shangrila, is this near to the famous Edsa redlight area? Further there was info stating there is a big shopping complex nearby..would this be Shoe Mart (SM).
The online site map provided by the Hotel website was not very helpful. I had look at previous threads but info for Shangrila Edsa is very sketchy compared to info on Shangrila Makati.
And one very important question is the hote girl-friendly?
Thank you.
To HarryDHo and asobihodai:
I try to avoid getting in meaningless arguments with other members of the forum - everyone is entitled to his own opinion. However, in this case, you question my credibility and I feel that I should respond to that.
I guess I see the point that for those people who come to the Philippines as sex tourists, escort agencies do not make sense. You can get cheap pussy anywhere you look. It seems to me that some members of the forum believe that this forum should be limited to the information on how to get cheap sex.
That's where I disagree. I spent a considerable amount of time in this country and I tried almost everything - internet dating, malling, go-go bars, street hookers, massage parlors, casas, you name it. I can also say that I did try escort services.
Regarding the choice of using escort services - first time I just wanted to try to see what is so special about the escorts. I agree that, in many cases, you end up getting the same girl as you could meet anywhere else but for higher price. However, if you can actually find a good provider, you could get a quality provider - the one that you could not only bang but also take to some event and have a nice dinner and a conversation with.
This forum is full of people that question the meaning of escort services. Even back in the US or Europe they usually limit themselves to SWs or AMPs. I would like to point out again for HarryDHo and asobihodai that this forum does cover the exchange of information on escort services. So if it is not your cup of tea, just keep it to yourself without offending others.
When one member of the forum inquired about the info on escort services, I offered to share my experience to him and others who are interested. There are numerous escort services in Manila and some of them I consider rip-offs (the quality of service was below expectations). I guess my definition of rip-off is different from HarryDHo's. This info was offered not to advertise any particular escort service but to save money and effort to those who actually made their mind about using them.
Finally, to asobihodai, I'm still puzzled with your statement that "It looks like these 2 messages were from 1 person."
Cheers,
HRC
[QUOTE=asobihodai]Good call Harry. I would have never noticed it until you pointed it out. It looks like these 2 messages were from 1 person.
The obvious thing is that there is no meaning in having an escort agency in Manila. The bottom line is, if you can't get laid in the Philippines, then there is no hope for you in any country.
All readers beware of bullshit posts.[/QUOTE]To asobihodai":
1 - As HRC and I have PM-ed once, I can confirm that he and I are not one. ok, dude?
If you had read my post, I said I had NO intention of going to these agencies,
so all this talk of bullshit posts and insinuating that HRC and I are plugging
really gets my goat.
On the lowend, 5000pesos (100USD) the talent doesn't move me.
On the higher end, I'm not going to pay 140,000pesos (USD 2500) for 3 hours for women, who while they're certainly more attractive, are not Prague bunnies by any stretch.
While I was born there, I didn't grow up with these women of the silver screen.
If you were from the PI, you would know that the PI doesn't have its share of the elite and the upper middle class who would pay for the privilege. Yes, Filipinos. Paying $2500US, for 3 hours. They exist you know.
What makes you think you foreigners are the only game in town?
2 - As for not being able to get laid anywhere, I'm cool with myself. I have sex on my own terms, the ambience, her face when you're not looking, the moon's position in the sky, whatever. and sometimes I walk away.
I have had good paid, and non-paid experiences in NYC, LA, Geneva, Amsterdam and the German FKKs, for anywhere from 50USD to 1500 USD.
So you'll forgive me if I pass on your definition of manhood. For some of us, the payoff isn't in how many I scored for the cheapest possible.
3 - Frequent Flier - I'm sure you know that, whether its an agency girl, or from a club, that the girl has to give up part of the money, right. So, with your 3000pesos (53US), if the girl kept even half, did you actually expect a beauty to sleep with you and fuck you for 8-9 hours, for 25 fucking dollars? Third World this may be, but we aint THAT pathetic. Jeez people.
What really gets me are foreigners coming to my country and getting all righteous about having scammed 10, 15, 20 bucks off the price - when they'll be paying three times that for a gum-infected BJ from a sore-infested junkie with sagging pus-filled tits in a sleazebag motel off the Jersey interstate. In dead winter.
I have paid 4000pesos for just a BJ (we got stoned and laughed our heads off) from a LA cafe girl, and oh once I paid 8,000 pesos to a Skyline massage girl, for a round, and a meal after her shift. Once or twice, I was too drunk, and I actually paid normal price (1000 pesos) but come to think, more often I pay no less than 3000pesos for sex in Manila. Or double what they think they'll get.and I never do overnights, so say 3 hrs max.
Why?
- Nickel-and-diming another human being doesn't get me off.
- Good karma begets good karma. its' not the country's GDP, but what yours is, when you feel it.
- While I do it out of charity sometimes, what do you think my chances are now of getting almost-free heavenly loving sex 5 times a day for a week in Boracay, when I call the Skyline (chinita, bubble butt, globes for tits) beauty next month?
- Some girls are greedy and just plain lowlifes, but for the most part, the stories of need and despair are true, and we can never know that kind of pain. which doesn't make me a charity ATM, but context is everything.
To those who'll howl and scream about how dude you're screwing it for the rest of us, and what a newbie, - well, tough.
Make more money then.
This next trip, I'll be even more generous. hell, i've had a great year.
Its' my money, it's my country, and my countrywomen - and i'll do as I damn please.
Let us altogether now get real. nuff said.
Frequent Flyer,
You can ask a taxi to take you to a Casa where there are neighborhood hotties. They negotiate with foreigners starting at about $75 or so, the cabbie will get a cut. You walk in and there are some 30 smiling babes all waiting for you to choose her. You can sit there for awhile and pick he best one.
HRC,
Its not my intent on "offending" you however, your post is absurd! Think about it. $100 - $500 is a huge difference. Also, in-call is the worst way to go. Somethin's up here. There, info for ya!
You want to do something different? There will be a man sitting outside each 3 star and above hotel. Give him a description of what you want or ask him to take you around. There's a real night out that most here haven't experienced.
To HRC & Mr. Pandesal,
Thanks for the great common sense and honest replies. You guys are truly legends.
JT
[QUOTE=Mr Pandesal]To asobihodai":
If you were from the PI, you would know that the PI doesn't have its share of the elite and the upper middle class who would pay for the privilege. Yes, Filipinos. Paying $2500US, for 3 hours. They exist you know.
What makes you think you foreigners are the only game in town?
I meant to say, the PI DOES have its share of folks who can afford it, so let's all live and let live.
To the "foreigners", I apologize for any hostility implicit in my tone.
If anything, after over two decades of absence, I am practically one myself.
And certainly, when I'm in Europe or North America, I am one, depite my US passport. I just stay cool that's all.
To HRC - well said, and certainly in more articulate, mature and more generous terms than mine.
Mr Pandesal,
Excellent points. There's not a damn thing wrong with being yourself, being human and paying a fair price. Being generous does not, as you know, make one a boob, but can make one feel quite good. When I buy a round for the house or buy too many ladies drinks, I am not being ripped off. I'm getting something for my money. True, the return is intangible outwardly, but what feelings are not ?
Regarding barfine, I tend not to discuss money up front and pay what I think is fair. Usually more than the mean rate here, but not quite as generously as you do. Yeah, you will no doubt generate a few mumbles out there "He's driving the price up". Who cares ? Anyone who really believes that doesn't understand basic supply and demand.
Now, just because neither you nor I take pride in "nickel and diming" doesn't mean I can not identify with the guy out there on a fixed income who needs to watch his money but still wants to have a good time. I think there is room here for both types of monger and there's certainly a market out there for them. Let's just all treat the ladies with respect, as long as we are receiving it in return.
As far as a trick by the Jersey turnpike, no thanks. American working girls scare the crap out of me ! :)
FD
[QUOTE=Mr Pandesal]
3 - Frequent Flier - I'm sure you know that, whether its an agency girl, or from a club, that the girl has to give up part of the money, right. So, with your 3000pesos (53US), if the girl kept even half, did you actually expect a beauty to sleep with you and fuck you for 8-9 hours, for 25 fucking dollars? Third World this may be, but we aint THAT pathetic. Jeez people.
What really gets me are foreigners coming to my country and getting all righteous about having scammed 10, 15, 20 bucks off the price - when they'll be paying three times that for a gum-infected BJ from a sore-infested junkie with sagging pus-filled tits in a sleazebag motel off the Jersey interstate. In dead winter.
I have paid 4000pesos for just a BJ (we got stoned and laughed our heads off) from a LA cafe girl, and oh once I paid 8,000 pesos to a Skyline massage girl, for a round, and a meal after her shift. Once or twice, I was too drunk, and I actually paid normal price (1000 pesos) but come to think, more often I pay no less than 3000pesos for sex in Manila. Or double what they think they'll get.and I never do overnights, so say 3 hrs max.
Why?
- Nickel-and-diming another human being doesn't get me off.
- Good karma begets good karma. its' not the country's GDP, but what yours is, when you feel it.
- While I do it out of charity sometimes, what do you think my chances are now of getting almost-free heavenly loving sex 5 times a day for a week in Boracay, when I call the Skyline (chinita, bubble butt, globes for tits) beauty next month?
- Some girls are greedy and just plain lowlifes, but for the most part, the stories of need and despair are true, and we can never know that kind of pain. which doesn't make me a charity ATM, but context is everything.
To those who'll howl and scream about how dude you're screwing it for the rest of us, and what a newbie, - well, tough.
Make more money then.
This next trip, I'll be even more generous. hell, i've had a great year.
Its' my money, it's my country, and my countrywomen - and i'll do as I damn please.
Let us altogether now get real. nuff said.[/QUOTE]WOW!
Well, since you are a newbie I guess we could expect as much from a newbie like you. Huh newbie?
But your right, they are your women in your country being paid with your money. So that makes you just a plain Prickosaurus. That is your personality not your anatomy
Have I ever posted being righteous about anything? Especially in the PI? Huh? how about it Prickosaurus?
You however have traveled all over the world fucking all of our many pus infested women, especially those from New Jersey as you stated, sometimes paying and sometimes for free. Whew! you are really one of a kind. Where does the line start to smell your shit that doesn't stink?
My post, you idiot, was preaching the same as yours and I was giving some of my own experiences as well. For some reason my post didn't post for a few days. If I had seen your post I wouldn't have bothered, because we were basically expressing the same opinion. To each his own and some are seeking something different from ourselves.
I never brag about what I pay, but I too have paid more to a nice girl from a P. Bugos Street establishment that needed it and I paid her much more than you brag about. But the amount is not important.
I also had a girl from a P. Burgos Street establishment who became sick when she was with me. Not pretend sick mind you but really sick. I had a digital/electronic thermometer with me and she had a temperature of 102.8. I paid for a doctor to come and visit her in my hotel room. Paid for all her medicine, she had an acute case of tonsillitis and let her stay with me in the room until she was well and could go to school and return to work. No sex mind you.
In my post I was merely explaining my experience and that after visiting the EDSA Plaza I did think $3,000.00 was for all night, as that is how long the EDSA girls stay for $1,000.00 at that time four years ago. I was expressing my disappointment that she had to leave early, not that I was disappointed with her or the service for the price.
So Prickosaurus, AKA Mr. Pandasel, after all of 6 post, why don't you retire since your from the PI and can do without any advise from the board. Because I for one can do with none of your opinions, which is what you are giving. Not advise.
Besides your so rich you can certainly find other ways of entertaining yourself.
FF
Mr Pandesal,
Great post.
HRC
Frequent Flier,
As HRC stated, this is a public forum for ALL sorts of information, not just the ten thousand ways to have cheap sex.
Therefore, until Jackson shuts me up, your having more posts should in no way confer you any more status than anyone else, especially newbies, as if we have to pass some sort of self-imposed qualifying test by the likes of you, or affect some learning-from-da-master submissive tone for your benefit.
In an immediate followup, which has yet to appear, i apologized immediately to the "foreigners", for the irony is not lost on this newbie that no matter where I am, whether its in the States or Frankfurt, my US passport don't mean shit - I am a foreigner there.
My reaction is essentially against boorish behavior. While it may have hit more of a nerve because it's the PI, I have felt the same way against Germans in Germany and Japanese in Germany. Assholism is global.
I was simply reacting against what has been a long-running ideology here of getting one over the locals - and I did add that I was no charity ATM, i just give more when I feel like it.
And where I am THE foreigner, I shut up and play it cool.
Interesting how it has to take a newbie's rant for you to come to the defense of good behavior, and not when other decent folk have been attacked here for "ruining it for the rest of us". I am impressed, even touched, with your actions, and on that account, I apologize for misreading your post.
By your territorial and abusive language however, you have confirmed my reservations about posting more here - and no matter where you came from, in whichever country, and despite the validity of some of your points - you're just another loud ass at the bar.
and my rant - yes, that was pure opinion , what else could it be? But then "newbies" are supposed to just take it from you, right, massa?
I will contribute to this board when I can help someone, and mostly shut up, as I have (6 posts remember?) - but won't shy away from defending myself or someone who was helpful to me - and mostly just stay away from that side of the bar where you are. Just like in real life.
Regardless of how valid my thoughts on the matter, I apologize:
1 - To everyone on the board, that you had to see me vent my spleen. My points are valid - my expression was not.
2 - To the "foreigners" - for I too am one. Here in the PI, and elsewhere.
3 - To those on a fixed income (yes, myself included, in years past and again this new year) –
I was attempting to make the point that sometimes generosity, for its own sake, and for its unintended rewards, is a good thing. In My Own Opinion, and for my own benefit.
4 - to those who disagree and think I'm "ruining it", I have read your rants on this public board and moved on, and you should grant me the same.
While I reserve the right to self-defense, anytime anywhere, this newbie has now vented, too much space for info-sharing has been taken and will now shut up on this thread.
Newbies United Against Territorial Bullies
[QUOTE=Wings2]Most of my visits to Manila have involved trips to either EDSA or P.Bugos area with the occassional stop off at Skyline.
Having heard a lot about Miss Universal I want to make a call in there on my next trip this week - can any one provide any information for me.
Cheers[/QUOTE]
Miss Universal is located in Pasay City. Any cab driver can easily take you there. It is a big place with about 200 girls (half GRO/hostess, and half showgirls) with quality around average to above average and a few pretty ones. If you like the dark "exotic" filipina (deemed ugly by locals), you will be in heaven. Ask for VANGIE as your Floor Manager. She is also known by the nickname DILA (which means tongue). Tell her your friend from the USA recommended her.
Barfine (takeout) is expensive. Will range from P6,000 to P8,000 (US$110 - 150) for overnight session w/ you at your hotel. No short time barfines. If you like the girl, make a date w/ her for the next girl. It will be less expensive. All PI hotels are girl friendly.
All this because I pointed out something suspicious. Regardless, using in-call will not get you the highest quality girls. Paying more will not either. The girl gets P and gets the same P if you pay $20.00 or if you pay $200.00. The House gets it. I realize that Go Gos aren't everyone's cup of tea and I myself, get bored there after awhile too. The Casa is similar to a bar without the GoGo atmosphere in that you can buy alcohol and sit and look at the lineup in the light until you decide. You can stipulate you take her for the evening or for a couple hours. Some will stay the night and some absolutely will not. I don't promote bargaining the ladies down to basement prices but, the House gets all the money. Also, remember, she and the House get much less from a real Filipino and many non-US foreigners pay less than Americans. Filipino heritage does not make a Filipino. A foreigner is still a foreigner. Foreigners don't know the system and never will. If you want to "help her", tip her silently.
I left another site similar to this one years ago because I was bored with the no-information posts from first-time one-time traveller-experts.
[QUOTE=Makedono]Had stayed previously at Inter Continental makati but this time due to business arrangement will be staying at Edsa Shangrila, is this near to the famous Edsa redlight area? Further there was info stating there is a big shopping complex nearby..would this be Shoe Mart (SM).
The online site map provided by the Hotel website was not very helpful. I had look at previous threads but info for Shangrila Edsa is very sketchy compared to info on Shangrila Makati.
And one very important question is the hote girl-friendly?
Thank you.[/QUOTE]
All PI hotels are girl friendly. EDSA Shangrila is on EDSA not too far from SM MegaMall. But it is a long way away from Makati and a lot more distant than the EDSA Complex which is almost near the Manila Bay (Roxas Blvd) on the Pasay City/Paranaque/Manila side. I would say at least 5 miles away and 20 minues by cab if there is no traffic (will never happen).
Mr. Panesal,
Again you miss the point.
As a newbie I am sure you will miss many.
It is your opinion that is the problem, as you continue to make assumptions on everyone based on your limited knowledge and exposure to a few people and a written post.
I certainly do not impose any test of any kind on any soul in any situation, unlike you I may add.
As to my territorial behavior? Look at my past post? See any ranting or bullying as you put it? Only on the occasion where some high brow like you decided to take a swipe at me for no reason. You thought you should lower your boom on my behavior and I had done nothing. You made the mistake boorish one, not me. I responded in kind to your attack. Something I rarely do. So again I agree. You should limit your post if in only 6 post you managed to already be so boorish. Your brief moment of morality is not very impressive. Only that... a brief moment
Your post really made me mad because you are up on your high horse making all the assumptions so now you get what you give. In this case you have chosen to continue to give and you know nothing about the person who you have laid your assumptions on.
As to your assumption that I have never come to the defense of good behavior I guess you are saying that you exhibited good behavior and I came to that defense. Your assumptions are so feeble even for a newbie.
I have many times talked to the point of those who take girls back from LA Cafe or the mall or other places and let them leave without offering money. They then brag about a freebie like they are some sort of stud, yea that is why they are in the PI, because they get so much free action at home. Of course I didn't criticize in the wonderful attacking manner that you did Mr. Wonderful, which is why you are so much better than I and the rest of us foreigners.
In my opinion. Just because your PI honey didn't ask for the money does not mean that she did not expect it or isn't in need of the money. If she does ask then the guy reports her as a gold digger. Some girls are to shy to ask for money, but they will accept it if offered. If you offer money and she refuses the money, then you can claim to be the stud of all studs, otherwise you are living in a dream world.
Please do stay on the other side of the bar as I would rather not associate with a person who is so much better than all others. You will know who I am as I treat the girls well and they remember me not just for the money I spend on them, but because I am a generous spirit. Besides, I have already met to many people like you in the PI, some of them PI nationals.
I have many times befriended a group of young Filipino guys who were just sitting in the back of a club on P. Burgos Street watching the show. They were very skeptical at first, but I insisted. Once they saw that I was just being friendly we had a blast on a slow Monday night. Didn't buy them girls as they were probably all dating the bar girls that I was buying drinks for, but made a few new friends.
You went to great lengths to defend the girls of the PI, how about all the citizens of the PI Oh great crusader? How do you treat the male population? Your no better than the rest of us so put your high horse in the stable.
[QUOTE=Mr Pandesal]and my rant - yes, that was pure opinion , what else could it be? But then "newbies" are supposed to just take it from you, right, massa?[/QUOTE]
By the way? massa? What was that?
I'm not sure where you claim to be from, but I believe you mentioned east coast somewhere. I know that where I live on the east coast and where I have traveled in the USA, that is not language that is used and is considered insensitive. You are so considerate of the world not only the PI aren't you?
Another brief moment there?
Should you now apologies again?
FF
[QUOTE=genuis8]All PI hotels are girl friendly. EDSA Shangrila is on EDSA not too far from SM MegaMall. But it is a long way away from Makati and a lot more distant than the EDSA Complex which is almost near the Manila Bay (Roxas Blvd) on the Pasay City/Paranaque/Manila side. I would say at least 5 miles away and 20 minues by cab if there is no traffic (will never happen).[/QUOTE]Thank you for the info. I guess I need to plan my time very carefully bearing in mind the distance or try to utilise the service of 'hotel delivery'.
During my previous trip (when I stayed at the Inter-Cont) my Filipino friends brought me to a karaoke joint named 'Aladdin' or something with a famous service called 'three wishes', it was quite an experience where my friends were getting BBBJ from the hostess in the karaoke room as one of the standard 'wish' in the establishment. Unfortunately, I cannot recalled the address. Anyone can help me on this?
[QUOTE=genuis8]Miss Universal is located in Pasay City. Any cab driver can easily take you there. It is a big place with about 200 girls (half GRO/hostess, and half showgirls) with quality around average to above average and a few pretty ones. If you like the dark "exotic" filipina (deemed ugly by locals), you will be in heaven. Ask for VANGIE as your Floor Manager. She is also known by the nickname DILA (which means tongue). Tell her your friend from the USA recommended her.
Barfine (takeout) is expensive. Will range from P6,000 to P8,000 (US$110 - 150) for overnight session w/ you at your hotel. No short time barfines. If you like the girl, make a date w/ her for the next girl. It will be less expensive. All PI hotels are girl friendly.[/QUOTE]Genuis8,
Thanks for the info I have just arrived in Manila and will take a wander down there tomorrow to scope it out.
Cheers
Wings2
[QUOTE=Makedono]Thank you for the info. I guess I need to plan my time very carefully bearing in mind the distance or try to utilise the service of 'hotel delivery'.
During my previous trip (when I stayed at the Inter-Cont) my Filipino friends brought me to a karaoke joint named 'Aladdin' or something with a famous service called 'three wishes', it was quite an experience where my friends were getting BBBJ from the hostess in the karaoke room as one of the standard 'wish' in the establishment. Unfortunately, I cannot recalled the address. Anyone can help me on this?[/QUOTE]
The KTV you are referring to is called GENIE KTV, where all your wishes come true (for a price, naturally). They also have a Massage Parlor, where you can relieve your stress, or you can arrange for the MI (Mission Impossible) in your room, but expect to spend a bit of cash, as this is one of the top nightclubs in town.
It is located a ways out of Makati in the town of CAINTA, just outside the Metro Manila border.
[QUOTE=genuis8]The KTV you are referring to is called GENIE KTV, where all your wishes come true (for a price, naturally). They also have a Massage Parlor, where you can relieve your stress, or you can arrange for the MI (Mission Impossible) in your room, but expect to spend a bit of cash, as this is one of the top nightclubs in town.
It is located a ways out of Makati in the town of CAINTA, just outside the Metro Manila border.[/QUOTE]Dear Genius8. Take you again for the info. It was a long way from Inter-Cont..but since we went there after dinner (almost 10 p.m.) traffic was not that bad and better on the return journey.
Now I recalled more about the establishment. The Karaoke was on the 3rd or 4th Floor and the massage on the lower floor. My friends had good time having BBBJ in the room (light off) but with the TV on, there was ample opportunity to see the live show. One of the girls opened the connecting door to the next room upon hearing a vry loud music & abacadabara....we saw a naked gal dancing and performing some suggestive moves on the customers (also colleagues of ours). Regret I didn't have the exact price but it was not that expensive, something in the region of a total of P5000 to P7000 for a 2 hours session (drink, foods (fried chicken wings, fruits etc),rooms and 3 girls-selected from an 'aquarium style' room-all dressed in red evening gowns) for 3 of us and additional tips from my friends for the BBBJs rendered. Love to go there again..but doubt I would have a chance though.
[QUOTE=HarryDHo]
HRC,
Its not my intent on "offending" you however, your post is absurd! Think about it. $100 - $500 is a huge difference. Also, in-call is the worst way to go. Somethin's up here. There, info for ya!
You want to do something different? There will be a man sitting outside each 3 star and above hotel. Give him a description of what you want or ask him to take you around. There's a real night out that most here haven't experienced.[/QUOTE]HarryDHo,
I personally hate getting in discussions with you since you do not seem to understand meanings of the reports. So for the last time and only for your benefit I will answer to you. Let me start with basics. The definition of word absurd is "so unreasonable as to be ridiculous." I can see how these prices can seem ridiculous for you and I already made a point regarding this issue. However, for others it seems to be a fair price. For example, when we had our business partners from China and Singapore, they wanted celebrities for their weekends in Boracay or El Nido and they were paying about $3000 per lady. What I'm trying to say by citing these examples that the sex industry is not limited to your world of under $50 pussies (or should I say $30?). I admit though that the distribution of users of sex services is more skewed towards lower prices. However, there are plenty of users who are willing and do pay much higher prices. I hope that answers your comment about the price difference.
Regarding your comment about the in-call, it just shows your ignorance. Never in the post I mention or suggested in-call. When using escort services, I have ladies coming to my place or a hotel. I assume that you either did not even read the post carefully or you are confused about the word in-call. You might not have the dictionary handy so Jackson was kind enough to provide forum abbreviations. So please check that.
Regarding your suggestion of using services of "a man sitting outside each 3 star and above hotel," what you're suggesting here is use of just a different pimp from what I was mentioning. I did use the services of these guys few times and most of the time I was dissatisfied. I felt I was better off picking those girls myself. I really wished that I could get some info at that time about good providers without wasting my time and money trying to discover it myself. That exactly was the reason why I decided to reply to the request of one forum member. I did not expect that it would create such a mess.
Finally, you seem to jump on the band wagon by picking up on so-called newbies. The fact that you might be an expert in getting free or cheap pussy does not make an expert in the forum. It seems to me that by showing your ignorance about the sex industry you could actually be considered a newbie.
Regards,
HRC
Sorry, made mistake on my earlier posting, it should be between P5000-P7000 per person. However, it was all paid for by the local business partner. Al in all, it was a fun filled evening.
To HRC, Mr Pandesal and HarryDHo. Would you guys please stop it. Enough already!
Just tell us where, what and how much.
If you want to engage in personal squabbles please use the "private messages".
Thank you
Hi All,
Next week I will be 3 days in Manila and it's my first time in the Philippines.
Any advise on prise, where to find girls and if hotels alows girls in the room.
Any information is very welcome.
Thanks in advance.
BlueWolf
Hi All,
Next week I will go to Manila for the first time, I will only stay 2 or 3 days.
Any information on price, where to find girls and if I can bring the girls back to the hotel?
Any BBS, sauna or bar's?
Thanks in advance.
BlueWolf
Just saw in the local paper that the cops busted Skyline in the Grand Boulevard Hotel in the past couple days.
Haven't been by. Anyone seen the place since the bust? Anyone heard of a crackdown on MPs in general?
This place was running so in the open that I first became aware of it when a columnist in the local version of FHM magazine reviewed a visit to this place in considerable detail, including the address, price, and detailed description of the services.
That was over a year ago, so I wouldn't necessarily draw a connection between the magazine article and the bust, however.
I arrive in Manila in a few days around midnight. Last time there, I got a stretched limo to the hotel. Also, the black taxis were the only straight taxis then. (Marcos had got all the others to paint their cabs yellow like NY NY). My question: what is the safest way to get from the airport to downtown late at night?
Currently, I am going to get a taxi coupon at the airport and take it from there. Some "recent" poster spoke abut taking the bus. I admire his balls but a dead Domino won't get much Ph pussy:)
Muy amable
Juan Domino
Domino,
Take the Nissan Premium Airport Taxi (NissanRentaCar). You can pre-book a taxi online on their website or just locate their office. If coming out of the NAIA international terminal 1, you'll need to walk past all the other coupon taxi vendors traverse the passenger pickup road (about 3 lanes) to get to the island where the Nissan Airport Taxi office is. I believe it's cheaper to pre-book, but it's something like a 75 peso difference. Chump change. I haven't had any problem with walking up to the office and getting a taxi from them. Tell them where you're going and they'll quote you a fixed price. It's as easy as that. PM me, if you need the website.
[QUOTE=Domino]I arrive in Manila in a few days around midnight. Last time there, I got a stretched limo to the hotel. Also, the black taxis were the only straight taxis then. (Marcos had got all the others to paint their cabs yellow like NY NY). My question: what is the safest way to get from the airport to downtown late at night?
Currently, I am going to get a taxi coupon at the airport and take it from there. Some "recent" poster spoke abut taking the bus. I admire his balls but a dead Domino won't get much Ph pussy:)
Muy amable
Juan Domino[/QUOTE]
dear Genious 8 or other friends...
i used to frequent studio where u can c photo albums and pick nice girls. now i am returning to beloved Manila, i would like to learn updates studio names and phone numbers and if possible, address.
i really appriciate if you can share your knowledge on this topic. thank you in advance.
Domino:
Taking a taxi from the airport is safe and reliable. Letting your hotel know your flight, and asking them to arrange an airport pick up is more expensive, however, it's even safer. I've done both, and I have never had a problem, but if I wanted to be aboslutely sure of my safety, I would take the hotel pick up.
GE
GE: Thanks for that. Are the black taxis (the honest ones) still on the prowl? I don't want listening to the bs of the rip off taxi drivers and so I would prefer the other.
Looks like my gf has bolted so I will have to get by on what is there. I will stay in Ermita at first but I will probably bolt down to Palawan or somewhere, get myself a good squaw, scrub her down at the local river and leave love take its course.Angeles and places don't interest me and Manila only becasue I arrive late at night. Last time, I was prowliing around Smoky Mountain but that is about 15 years ago
I also intend to be around for Easter. I reckon those crucifixions are a great place for picking up the babes. It is amazing how much gals like blood and gore.
It has been a long time since I was in the Ph. It seems as depressing now as it was then. Even checking on yahoo messenger, Manila has over 100 pages, compared to 20 or so for Bangkok.
Also, if time allows, I would like to check out the pirated DVDs around Quiapo. I know clothes etc are cheap but I have too many of them. Women apart, is there anything else there worth buying?
I have been in Manila on several occasions for an overnight trip. I often stay at the Trader's Hotel on Roxas Blvd because it is part of the Shangri La chain and during renovations it has been offering excellent deals on the internet ($50/nite). And, it is convenient to the airport.
I finally checked out the bar in the basement called Isis. Well, it was a blast. Two or three dozen girls dancing in shifts and a pool table. Other than myself and a few Arab guys, it was pretty empty.
The girls were all enthusiastic and very, very cute. If you are in town for a night, this is an easy option for a fun night and you can get to the airport quickly in the morning. It is also an interesting diversion if you tire of LA Cafe, EDSA, Burgos or Quezon Ave. Ah, so many choices.
[QUOTE=Number Six]Just saw in the local paper that the cops busted Skyline in the Grand Boulevard Hotel in the past couple days.
Haven't been by. Anyone seen the place since the bust? Anyone heard of a crackdown on MPs in general?
This place was running so in the open that I first became aware of it when a columnist in the local version of FHM magazine reviewed a visit to this place in considerable detail, including the address, price, and detailed description of the services.
That was over a year ago, so I wouldn't necessarily draw a connection between the magazine article and the bust, however.[/QUOTE]The "bust" wasn't much of an event. The police walked through, hassled a few people (seemed to be checking more for drugs), then left. The place has been in full op since. It does seem that a number of places have come under pressure from the municiple authorities lately (Miss Brunette comes to mind) but it seems more like a shake down effort to make sure the proper pay-offs are made.
After passing thru Edsa approx 20 mins ahead of the bus that blew up, it really makes you start to think about things, like why am i here. After thinking for about two mins i remembered and called my old friend JR." Lets go and take a few beers and get you a girl" he says.. sounds like a good idea to me..!! Anyways, hit Athena on Roxas and boy is it expensive but the girls are models..!!! If you like the mestiza type, tall and gorgeous then 8000 pesos for the night might not sound too bad. Personally i like them brown, small, slim with big tits..!! So we had a couple beers and hit the casas.... still expensive by AC standards but nice selection of girls. first one had about 20 girls and couldnt make a choice so headed for no 2. As soon as I walked in I just new i had to have this one girl. Exactly what i like. Anyways, the girls in the casas are 4000 pesos for the night and off we went, dinner in a Bulalo Restaurant and back to the Hotel for a night of fireworks..!! Best night ive had in the Philippines this trip bombs or not..!! There may be travel advisories but my advice is fuck them all. the Philippines is no more dangerous that most western cities on friday night..!! Just thought id share my best night with you and for anyone looking foir a guide or drinking buddy my friend JR is the person to call. trustworthy and he can find you anything you need. great for newbies or anyone who just wants the security of someone to get around the bars and clubs of Manila. His no is 0917 414 5416.
Scot5man
Golazo et al,
You did not mention whether the girls available for P4P? Prices?
I have also been a frequent traveller to Manila over the years, but have done my mongering in EDSA, Burgos, a couple of houses (Flying Scotsman, I went an 8,000 peso joint once, but did not think the quality justified the price IMHO) , Hard Rock Cafe & TGIF, and an escort agency once. I even remember Ermita in the old days.
Having said that, I will be in Manila this week and would like to explore some alternatives and have a couple of questions for the Manila experts.
1) Where is LA Cafe?
2) What is Queson Ave?
3) How much are the house girls getting for ST nowadays?
4) Any other suggestions for P4P for 4,000 pesos or less?
5) Where is the low end of the market for 1,000 pesos or less?
Thanks in advance for your help.
OAH
Arrived Manila Saturday 1930 – in hotel by 2030.
Attended the 3 year anniversary party of SKYLINE in Grand Boulevard Hotel (along Roxas Boulevard – not far from US Embassy) from 2200 until midnight. Some of the WG’s there had a show, involving the gentlemen guests seriously (BBBJ’s), and giving out prizes (massages). It was great fun, and all participants were members of MTC (Manilatonight.com). SKYLINE seem to have lot of hot ladies (more than 150 MPA’s), so I will try to stop by later this week for their FS.
Thereafter, went to EDSA/Casino. Almost full house by midnight. Chatted with the staff, BF’d two girls, Louisa/22 and Tanya/25++ (php 1000 each to the bar), took them to my hote, Shangri-La Makati (no security problem). Promised them usd.50 each (php2500), as I was out of pesos, which made them very friendly. I know – according to some of you guys I overpaid by usd.10-20, but I got GREAT service. Shared some wine, showered, shaved them :) , and had 3 shots. Sent them away by 5AM
A few hours sleep, breakfast, then back to sleep. Called up an internet acquaintance (22yo). She came by the hotel as agreed at 4PM. Another 2 shots, and she ledt at 2200, but wanted to stay all night. Paid her PhP 1500 to leave (She’s not a pro WG, but college student in IT, with a scandiavian BF paying her school).
Oooops… almost forgot. I brought 2 toys along to play with this trip. One for G-spot/Clit, and one “rabbit”. All 3 ladies tremendously .
Total costs for first 27 hours in Manila, including, party in Sky Line, 5 shots, BF’s etc., about PhP11000 (usd.200).
Sorry for no pics to post, since flat battery, and no adapter available in room.
Note to self: BUY ADAPTER. ¨
More to follow…
”MY FAIR LADY” in EDSA Entertainment Complex will close down in 23 days due to end of lease.
The group owning the place has already built up a new “Entertainment Center” in the Domestic Road, in front of the domestic airport (Across Cebu Pacific) in Pasay City, with 8 new bars/nightclubs. Actually, the first club opened in April 2004, and is known now to be the best hidden secret in Manila.
Visited at about 1930 on Monday, and it was slow. Only about 8 male guests and at least 80 girls in the 8 clubs (that I could see at that time). When My Fair Lady close, the girls will move to the new place. I asked, and learned that BF is PhP1000 (as in EDSA), and the girls ask PhP2500 for short-time. Guess negotiable, as always.
Name of clubs:
My Fair Lady Night Club
Sophia Night Club
Makara Night Club
Venus Night Club
Mimosa Night Club
WOW Night Club
Blue Cristal Night Club
My Fair Bar and Café
Parking for about 100 cars.
I am now in Manila for the week with my girlfriend. If the bombs that were set off here last week have had any negative effect on Makati, it's not visible. We went to the Cafe Havana area of Greenbelt for dinner last night, and the outdoor area was packed...every restaurant, cafe, bar and club. There were literally hundreds and hundres of people, including the usual ladies parading up and down and back and forth on the sidewalks.
The police have just announced an arrest of two of the suspected bombers. It's strictly business as usual here.
:D
GE
Day 3
After my visit to the new Entainment Center, went back to EDSA Entairment Complex, close to Heritage Hotel.
Again – having a good time… had some beers, and some tempuras (fried chrimps). Played a little reluctant with the Floor Manager Marie, like in not sure it to BF any ladies that night. She worked hard to find a suitable one, and suggested Meldi(e) to me after a while. Meldie was cute, easy to talk with – and I finally ended up with her. Left Casino about 2230 with her, after paying a BF of PhP 1000. Agreed PhP 2000 for her service, but asking first what was her do’s and don’t’s. She said only limitations was anal. Fine with me! Back in the hotel at 2300 – had shower, then fun. Hard time in cumming because of previous encounters, but she put her heart and soul in to it. She was talkative, in a nice way, so I enjoyed her company (and she mine. The latter I learned when talking to the Floor Manager (mama-san) on Tuesday evening when I visited again). She left about 0630 Tuesday morning after finalized (cumming) the deal. 2 pictures posted in the photo section. Very friendly and extremly good service. I was very pleased with meeting Meldi(e).
Day 4
Visited Casino again about 2200hrs with 2 friends.
Planned to stay only 2 hours, since I already know who to BF this time.
However – she was already reserved by some arab guy. Had a few beers, had fun with the girls and the managers (since they know me well for a long time), but left about 0100 – alone.
Agreed with Manager that she should reserve the girl for me for Saturday evening. Lets see what happens! I shall report back later!
[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]Golazo et al,
You did not mention whether the girls available for P4P? Prices?
I have also been a frequent traveller to Manila over the years, but have done my mongering in EDSA, Burgos, a couple of houses (Flying Scotsman, I went an 8,000 peso joint once, but did not think the quality justified the price IMHO) , Hard Rock Cafe & TGIF, and an escort agency once. I even remember Ermita in the old days.
Having said that, I will be in Manila this week and would like to explore some alternatives and have a couple of questions for the Manila experts.
1) Where is LA Cafe?
2) What is Queson Ave?
3) How much are the house girls getting for ST nowadays?
4) Any other suggestions for P4P for 4,000 pesos or less?
5) Where is the low end of the market for 1,000 pesos or less?
Thanks in advance for your help.
OAH[/QUOTE]
Regarding P4P for P4,000 or less, this depends on your taste. If you are caucasian and like the "exotic-dark skinned" filipinas, stick to the EDSA complex. The Hotel-Primera located on the 7th floor of the Premier Hotel Bldg in Sta Cruz, Manila (corner of Dasmarinas St) is a massage parlor. Room is P500, FS-Tip is around P1,000. Session lasts about 1 hour.
If you are asian and like the fair-skinned "mestiza" look, try the Barcelona Spa (MP) along Dasmarinas St (2nd floor) where you see the FURAMA KTV sign out front. Room is around P1,100 and FS tip is P1,000-1,5000. Or try the SKYLINE MP, 8th Flr, Grand Blvd Hotel along Roxas Blvd, Manila. Room (P1,000-2,500) + tip (P1,500-2,000).
Quezon City (Quezon BLvd/Quezon Avenue) nightclubs are expensive and have the fair-skinned types favored by locals.
It is funny that you brought that up. According to most of the taxi drivers who drove me around Manila, they find it amazing that most caucasian men find the dark exotic looking women attractive. To their eyes, these women are average to butt ugly. The more native looking women tend to work at Burgos in Makati, in addition to the EDSA complex.
On the other hand, like their Japanese, Singaporean, and Malaysian counterparts, the taxi drivers saw the lighter skinned, tall mestiza look as being more attractive. Hence they knew, depending on the race of their fare, where to take them. Like you said, this type of girls tend to work, in additon to Quezon City and Skyline in Grand, at Starfleet and Air Force One in Paranaque.
I'll be in Manila from Saturday, March 5 to Thursday, March 17. I'll be glad to meet anyone for a SM or others. I like the freedom of the LA Cafe, you can see many different types and listen to live music from cover bands every nite. I find that you can see how the girls may be like in bed by the way they dance, and make a good selection.
PM me if you want to meet. I'll be staying at the Manila Pavilion on UN Avenue.
This part should perhaps been posted in the Makati-thread, but since it involves both Pasay and Makati, I’ll post it here.
Day 5
Visited Burgos Street with colleagues and was introduced to a club that has only been around for a couple of years called Kabozz (If I recall correctly). This is Makati, so they had made a separate smoking-room for those needing it.
A lot of good looking ladies – but could not barfine due to those present. Barfine is still PhP 3000.
When I came back to my hotel, I decided to have a coffee and a sig at the Starbuck just outside of the hotel. At the table next to me sat the bugaw (pimp) with 4 ladies. I did not chat them up, since I don’t like to be involved with pimps directly. I guess it is the same ladies that one of our members wrote about a few days/weeks ago.
Day 6-7
– out of town.
Day 8
As I had agreed to barfine a 19 yo knockout lady I went back to Casino – but I arrived late, about 2230hrs. She was not around and I was pissed with the manager. Tried to negotiate for two ladies, paying for one only, for them to make up for the damage for not reserving the 19yo for me. The manager agreed, but when the bill came, it was for two instead of one. I was already pissed from alcohol – so decided to not go along – and went back to hotel alone.
Day 9 (last day).
Contacted JAM – a lady that advertise in the Buy & Sell Magazine on internet ([url]http://www.buyandsellph.com[/url] . In the search-field type massage, and a list will come up. Search for JAM, and you will find her mobile-number.) Agreed that she should arrive to my hotel at 1500hrs. She did. She is a masseuse, and she gives wet thai massage, ordinary massage and FS. This lady has been given good FR’s in the MTC (manilatonight.com), so I wanted to try a Wet Thai Massage for the first time.
She brought a rubber-sheet to cover the bed, and mixed her soap in the icecube-pot in the room. She was sort of shy, so wanted dim lights for a start.
It was about 30 minutes of her rubbing her towards my body, both nude – nice. It was my first experience ever with this so I have nothing to compare with. But it did not feel like a real massage, helping on anything but stiffening one part of my body which is not a muscle. While she was at work I felt her body and found her clit swollen – meaning that she enjoyed it as well. We played a little. I have never been this clean ever.. he he he.
After a shower, I enjoyed FS – she is a moaner.
Finished with an ordinary massage (below average), and a BBBJ.
Total damage was PhP1000 for massage + PhP1000 for the sextras. Paid her PhP2500 + pluss 100 for taxi (Total USD 50). Time spent with her; 3 hours.
Left hotel at 1900 to catch my flight back to Europe and the cold weather.
Is the Bayview Park Hotel (across from the US Embassy) friendly to "guests" coming to your room?
Thanks
O.D.
Day 1: Visited the new Entertainment Center mentioned by Marconista. I guess not many mongers know about it. Just like his post, I was the only customer around at about 9:30pm. Each bar has 20-30 girls. Pulled a tall slim stunner out of one bar and off we went. Standard 1,000 BF, she wanted 2k. BBBJ was pretty good, but FS was lacking. Tried to avoid full penetration and she was very tense. Said it was her first time with a foreigner, but who would believe that. Nice shaved pussy. Overall, average rating.
Day 2: Hit the Hard Rock about 10:00pm, but found nothing I fancied. On the way back to the hotel, I ran into a SW offering the standard massage package. She was by no means a stunner, but off we went. Actually gave me a pretty good massage, followed by great BBBJ and FS. Damage was only 1,000 pesos.
Day 3: Checked a few bars in Borgus, but was turned off by the 3k BF. I don't find the quality of the talent is any better than Entertainment Complex in Pasay so off I went. Took a girl with a huge rack out of that bar in the corner next to Firehouse. When we were in the taxi, I discovered she had a terrible cold. Anyway, too late to do anything about it. Nice shower together. Service was routine, but I must admit I was afraid of catching her cold being too close. I finished with Russiana and BBBJCIM which I always enjoy. Still only average. 1,000 BF, plus 1,500 + 100 taxi.
My theory of the better looking they are the lower the service level was reconfirmed on this visit. This always seems to be the case for me. And, price is not related to service either.
Just my POV.
OAH
I have been here now for a few days.
When I first arrived in the PI early February, I went by and met two girls- Lisa and Mica who are two totally different type of personalities, but good friends as they're both from Cebu. Lisa is more outgoing having worked at the Cotton Club while Mica is more of a quiet person, who claims she has never worked at a club.
Since then, I have been seeing these two seperately at different times, with great results. I guess as the girls get more comfortable w/you, they open up more and are more willing to try something new. I have had some fantasies fulfilled now that I never thought would come true.
Anyways, last night I went to a different part of the club where they play billards on the second floor. This is where I saw a different type of atmosphere than the area around the stage on the second floor. There are many girls that are working for 2 mamasans that are gathered around a few tables. One of the mamasans got upset with one of her girls, and the people at LA Cafe let the mamasan almost beat up the girl before restraining her and kicking out the girl. The difference here is that the girls are more of the lighter skin color that the Asians prefer, versus the darker skin types most Americans like. So be aware when you go in about this that if you decide to pick one of these girls, you will be acting like your are in the KTV's.
Ted
Many guys on this forum are business men staying at nice hotels, all costs paid, etc.
For those travellers on a budget the LA Cafe in Ermita is fine. No bar fines and girls for 1500 pesos all night. I didn't try to get cheaper but I'm sure some of the girls would do the deed for only 500! The selection is ok but no model types.
There were some angry posts on this thread earlier concerning prices, guys calling each other liars, etc. Well you can get ok girls for only 500 pesos, and I guess some guys do pay $2000 US. Who cares!!! Just do your own thing, be nice to the girls and have fun.
Please give honest reports, less bragging and less bullshit. Thanks everybody!
How to approach a girl in LA Cafe ? Simply ask her something like that ... 'are 1.000 peso fine' ... and then she leaves with you that place? Or is a little more bullshit conversation required in order to save face? Any experience is appreciated!
hesekiels
Hesekiels,
I shouldn't laugh, but just show up at the place. Everything will be self-evident. Have fun and be safe. It is the Philippines, man! It ain't real subtle and if you are anything but a caveman, you won't offend anybody and maybe have a great time.
Anyway two and bit hours later in a bit of a cramped seat with this German guy, next to me and a Jim Carey movie showing, which had still not finished, we turn up at Swagman’s hotel in Ermita. I believe there is also a shuttle to the airport at set times, but to be honest there is only one thing doing if you are about to embark on a 17 hour journey back home. Wait at the hotel for the shuttle or have a good, no great relaxing massage? Yes, you’ve guessed it there was only one thing on my mind. Plus I was all hot and sticky by then, it had now just gone 2pm and I was determined to get to Starfleet, which is a couple of doors down from [b]Airforce One (AF1)[/b], where I went last year. I had time to kill because I didn’t have to check-in until 6pm. I grabbed a taxi and headed over to Starfleet, obviously I had my baggage because it would not make any sense leaving my bags at Swagman, and then coming back to collect them later, also note that at the airport there are no baggage storage facilities, with the traffic in Manila this is a 30 minute journey and the fact that these places are within a stone’s throw to the airport it made sense that I to brought my luggage. Last September when I came here [b]Starfleet[/b] was not open until 1pm but this time it was around 3.20pm, the promo hour. I left my bags in the reception and went downstairs to commence my massage. I choose the two-hour option and two girls at a grand total of 3,200 Pesos (U$59/£31/€44).
I did ask for a copy of the price list so that I could post them here but the guy there became a bit cagey and very guarded when I wanted to photograph the price list saying it’s no allowed. I do not know by whom and why.
The two girls who had strange names that sadly, I did not write down so I have forgotten them, sorry, but did grab a photo, were OK, they were trying to negotiate the tip before we had began but I wanted to go for the Thai wet massage rather than the normal. The room is much smaller and so was the bed, that you would find compared with AF1 and this was the presidential room.
A wet massage is ideal and a quick blast in the steam room where one of the girls also came in to give me a good soap up, after nine days in Angeles City I said that I didn’t want to [I]fuck[/I] I had had enough [I]putang[/I] to last me a good while, but I did enjoy the wet massage with the girls using their bodies to give you a good scrub down, one down below and one on top, then it was just a hand job to finish me off. Mind you it was a pleasant experience as one of the girls did have the most perfect breasts I have ever seen, simply perfect, I had to ask if they were real or a plastic surgery job but she assured me that were real. The thing about Pinay girls is that some do have great bodies. This was another girl who enjoyed some light anal probing because I was first teasing her with my finger and then she kept pushing back, until I had half finger up there. The second girl didn’t like any of the anal stuff, however during a break in the session the second one committed a mortal sin when she started smoking a disgusting habit especially as the rooms were so small. After we moved from the wet massage to the massage table and relaxed my time was nearly up, two hours had passed just like that.
I showered with the help of the girls and got dressed and then settled the tip of 1,750 Pesos each and for the second time I tried to get a photo of the price list, but they (this manager) still would not have it. I then grabbed a taxi and got to the airport at a cost of only 60 Pesos but the driver must have thought I was some big tipper because he didn’t offer me any change until I asked for it, then he gave me 20 Pesos. In fact by the time I was in the airport just perfect on 6pm and the check-in desk had opened. I went into the lounge and was in there some time when this German guy who was sitting next to on the fly-the-bus from Angeles came in there. I guess he must have waited at Swagman for the airport shuttle but I choose to spend my time doing something much more productive. Take my advice before you depart the Philippines make sure you get a nice relaxing massage at either [b]Airforce One[/b] or [b]Starfleet[/b].
The last thing I had to remember was to have enough credit on my cell so that I could put the roaming service on, this allows you to send and receive text messages only – no voice calls. The advantage of this is that it appears to the girls that you are still in the Philippines and when I arrived back at Heathrow the following day, making my way back home I received a text message from Grace asking when I am coming back to Makati, from Angeles City. I told her I had to come straight back to the UK for business reasons and she said they were missing me.
To put on your roaming service you need to have more than 300 Pesos credit on your Smart telephone and then send the message, [b]ROAM ON[/b] to [b]333[/b]
Here are the prices as best as I can remember.
[b]Promo time:[/b] [u]single[/u] [color=green][u]double girls[/u][/color]
12- 7pm 2,000 Pesos [color=green] 3,200 Pesos [/color]
[b]Regular time:[/b]
7pm- 4am 2,800 Pesos [color=green] 4,200 Pesos[/color]
[b]Starfleet[/b]
3rd Floor Oyster Plaza Bldg II
Ninoy Aquino Ave
Corner Kabinasnan Road
Parañaque City
Tel: (02) 829-1998/ 829-3861/ 829-0304
[url]www.Starfleet.ktvphil.com[/url] e-mail: [email]Starfleet@ktvphil.com[/email]
This now concludes my time in the Philippines and I still have many photos to post, unlike Redneck and co, but will do this in due course. One note, in some of the photos the girl’s faces appear ghostly white, this is due to the make up these girls put on for their shift the flash camera really picks this up.
A truly excellent, infomative report, Juniour! Where are the better looking girls. In AF1 or in Starfleet?
Hesekiels
Well, maybe not the right place to ask here in 'Manila', but, has anybody got experience with a place named Calamba? I have came to know that it should be a very nice place for fucking around!?
Hesekiels
[quote] Where are the better looking girls. In AF1 or in Starfleet?[/quote]
[b]Hesekiels[/b]
To be honest its difficult to say there is not much in it, however because there are within five minutes walk of each other I suggest, if you have no baggage to carry around, you can look at both and see what gets your fancy on the day.
Here are some pics of the Hyatt in Malate. This hotel is brand new and is extremely girlfriendly. When I talked to the concierge, he said that it would never be a problem to bring a guest back to my room as long as i bring only 1 guest. A few times, i saw 2 ladies entering inside the lift and myself i did bring two ladies at once without any problem.
I must admit that it is not discrete to bring girls inside as the security is strict and there always seems to be a lot of staff at the reception.
Nice pool, very close to the La Cafe, the bars of Adriatico Avenue and to the Robinson's Mall, huge shower, some rooms have a very nice seaview, excellent breakfast.
I can vouch for the Westin -- I had no problems bringing back an obviously temporary girlfriend back to the room a couple of weeks ago. The rooms are nice -- I had a balcony with a view of the water. I think most rooms are the same. The outdoor pool area and adjacent gardens looked nice also. Front office staff was friendly and efficient. My room was clean, the bedding was very nice and I had lots of space. There was an in-room safe. This will be my first choice for my next trip. It easily beats the Nikko, which I found to be the same price.
LA CAFE report.
On the second floor back room there is a second bar. You will notice that it is a gathering area for the Korean mongers. I tried hitting on the girls in there and found that some of them would ignore me. I was told that some of these girls will not do caucasian guys because they are afraid of very big cocks. Some of you guys are hung like frigging donkeys!
You will notice that there are some mamasans walking around. I was told there are 20 mamasans working different shifts. The bar is open 24 hours a day and always has plenty of freelance girls available. The mamasans help the girls find a guy and receives a 100 peso commission from the girl. You can also hire a mama to get you the girl you desire. She will whisper to the girl.
How much to pay? It's a buyers market in Manila because there are so many girls. But remember, life is tough for these nice girls, they cannot find jobs and they have babies and mothers to take care of. So be fair, don't be a stingy guy and don't ask her to do it without a condom.
Will go down to Manila in a couple of days for 1 or 2 nights. I have choice Cococabana Hotel and EDSA, with a 3 holer girl in know.
Or Executive and LA Cafe, does anyone know any girls there they rec with what services.
This is not a cost issue.
I have been to the bar mentioned by Santa several times, and it's true there are typically alot of Korean guys hanging around. But I've picked up women from that bar two or three times without a problem.
GE
[QUOTE=Juniour]Anyway two and bit hours later in a bit of a cramped seat with this German guy, next to me and a Jim Carey movie showing, which had still not finished, we turn up at Swagman’s hotel in Ermita. I believe there is also a shuttle to the airport at set times, but to be honest there is only one thing doing if you are about to embark on a 17 hour journey back home. Wait at the hotel for the shuttle or have a good, no great relaxing massage? Yes, you’ve guessed it there was only one thing on my mind. Plus I was all hot and sticky by then, it had now just gone 2pm and I was determined to get to Starfleet, which is a couple of doors down from [b]Airforce One (AF1)[/b], where I went last year. I had time to kill because I didn’t have to check-in until 6pm. I grabbed a taxi and headed over to Starfleet, obviously I had my baggage because it would not make any sense leaving my bags at Swagman, and then coming back to collect them later, also note that at the airport there are no baggage storage facilities, with the traffic in Manila this is a 30 minute journey and the fact that these places are within a stone’s throw to the airport it made sense that I to brought my luggage. Last September when I came here [b]Starfleet[/b] was not open until 1pm but this time it was around 3.20pm, the promo hour. I left my bags in the reception and went downstairs to commence my massage. I choose the two-hour option and two girls at a grand total of 3,200 Pesos (U$59/£31/€44).
I did ask for a copy of the price list so that I could post them here but the guy there became a bit cagey and very guarded when I wanted to photograph the price list saying it’s no allowed. I do not know by whom and why.
The two girls who had strange names that sadly, I did not write down so I have forgotten them, sorry, but did grab a photo, were OK, they were trying to negotiate the tip before we had began but I wanted to go for the Thai wet massage rather than the normal. The room is much smaller and so was the bed, that you would find compared with AF1 and this was the presidential room.
A wet massage is ideal and a quick blast in the steam room where one of the girls also came in to give me a good soap up, after nine days in Angeles City I said that I didn’t want to [I]fuck[/I] I had had enough [I]putang[/I] to last me a good while, but I did enjoy the wet massage with the girls using their bodies to give you a good scrub down, one down below and one on top, then it was just a hand job to finish me off. Mind you it was a pleasant experience as one of the girls did have the most perfect breasts I have ever seen, simply perfect, I had to ask if they were real or a plastic surgery job but she assured me that were real. The thing about Pinay girls is that some do have great bodies. This was another girl who enjoyed some light anal probing because I was first teasing her with my finger and then she kept pushing back, until I had half finger up there. The second girl didn’t like any of the anal stuff, however during a break in the session the second one committed a mortal sin when she started smoking a disgusting habit especially as the rooms were so small. After we moved from the wet massage to the massage table and relaxed my time was nearly up, two hours had passed just like that.
I showered with the help of the girls and got dressed and then settled the tip of 1,750 Pesos each and for the second time I tried to get a photo of the price list, but they (this manager) still would not have it. I then grabbed a taxi and got to the airport at a cost of only 60 Pesos but the driver must have thought I was some big tipper because he didn’t offer me any change until I asked for it, then he gave me 20 Pesos. In fact by the time I was in the airport just perfect on 6pm and the check-in desk had opened. I went into the lounge and was in there some time when this German guy who was sitting next to on the fly-the-bus from Angeles came in there. I guess he must have waited at Swagman for the airport shuttle but I choose to spend my time doing something much more productive. Take my advice before you depart the Philippines make sure you get a nice relaxing massage at either [b]Airforce One[/b] or [b]Starfleet[/b].
The last thing I had to remember was to have enough credit on my cell so that I could put the roaming service on, this allows you to send and receive text messages only – no voice calls. The advantage of this is that it appears to the girls that you are still in the Philippines and when I arrived back at Heathrow the following day, making my way back home I received a text message from Grace asking when I am coming back to Makati, from Angeles City. I told her I had to come straight back to the UK for business reasons and she said they were missing me.
To put on your roaming service you need to have more than 300 Pesos credit on your Smart telephone and then send the message, [b]ROAM ON[/b] to [b]333[/b]
Here are the prices as best as I can remember.
[b]Promo time:[/b] [u]single[/u] [color=green][u]double girls[/u][/color]
12- 7pm 2,000 Pesos [color=green] 3,200 Pesos [/color]
[b]Regular time:[/b]
7pm- 4am 2,800 Pesos [color=green] 4,200 Pesos[/color]
[b]Starfleet[/b]
3rd Floor Oyster Plaza Bldg II
Ninoy Aquino Ave
Corner Kabinasnan Road
Parañaque City
Tel: (02) 829-1998/ 829-3861/ 829-0304
[url]www.Starfleet.ktvphil.com[/url] e-mail: [email]Starfleet@ktvphil.com[/email]
This now concludes my time in the Philippines and I still have many photos to post, unlike Redneck and co, but will do this in due course. One note, in some of the photos the girl’s faces appear ghostly white, this is due to the make up these girls put on for their shift the flash camera really picks this up.[/QUOTE]I just want to thank you for doing an outstanding job again in your post Juniour as the information you provide is always so helpful and beneficial. You're one of the best on here so please keep up the good work!
[QUOTE=GoodEnough]I have been to the bar mentioned by Santa several times, and it's true there are typically alot of Korean guys hanging around. But I've picked up women from that bar two or three times without a problem.
GE[/QUOTE]Yes, and I also picked up girls in that room, that's where some of the pretty ones hang out, but the girls in there are looking for Korean guys and some of them will not go with western guys. You will notice that many of them will ignore you, while downstairs most of the girls make eye contact.
I just read Juniors report on the roaming with the Smart card, and I just wanted to let you guys know what I just experienced a few weeks ago on my return to Manila after 5 months.
Your smart load expires by a certain time date. When you load up in PI you will hear when your load expiration date is. That is not such a big deal, however if you have set your phone to roam 333 before you leave PI, and if you are gone an extended period of time your load will expire and when you return to PI you can not reset your phone to "roam off" because you don't have any load or time available to operate your phone.
You will have to visit a store like 7/11 to get an "electronic" load. They hook your phone up to a small electronic device like a card reader and load your phone that way. Now after you have a load again, you can then turn roam off.
I tried to load a p300 card first before I got the "electronic" load and my phone would not load it because I was still on "roam". Thats the main reason you need to get the "electronic" load. You have to get your phone operating again first before you can make the setting changes.
As long as you know that you have to follow these steps, it's not too much of a problem, but it took me hours late at night on my arrival to figure it all out......while honey ko was waiting to hear from me !
I guess the big learning here is to not stay away from PI for too long !
Hello,
I was so amazed by this pink urinal on the road just before the MLA aiport that I took a picture.
And now I know the history.
IHT article about Manila mayor:
[url]http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/03/20/news/bayani.html[/url]
It had been about 6 months or so since I last visited the Entertainment Complex that is close to the Domestic Terminal in Paranaque.
The first time I was there, it was pretty much the same as it is now. There are hardly any customers, so the girls are quite enthusiastic in all the clubs.
There are now about 8-9 places open now in the complex, and when I was there a few weeks ago I stopped into all of them to check out the action. It was about 9PM on a Wednesday night and there were only 6 other guys around.
The girls all hoot and holler for you to come into their place and you do get a lot of attention when you step inside. There were a few real cuties available, and most were of the type you would find in the EDSA Complex.
The bar fine / EWR is p1000 and you need to negotiate with the girls for their tip, and that ranges from p1500 - p2500 asking.
I took a really sweet spinner from one of the clubs and I wasn't disappointed, but one of the other guys that was there before me had 4 LBFM's sitting around his table and was obviously enjoying himself.....especially when he barfined all 4 of them and they packed themselves into the waiting cab for what I am sure was a night to remember!
I am not sure I would want to frequent this place too often (they remembered me from 6 months ago ! ) but if you haven't been there before you should check it out. Its a little bit of pressure for the ladies drinks, but you guys know how to handle that. So go check it out and enjoy.