-
Tipping
[QUOTE=Globe Spinner;1146412]Give me a break, guys. I only gave her a big tip because she hung in like a real trooper but could hardly walk after. She certainly wasn't working any more that day or probably the next.[/QUOTE]It sounds like too much but it is up to you.
And if you are happy giving a bigger tip then good for you.
I give less of tips. Unless very extraordinary girl that does something really fantastic.
And that is not likely.
But if they want more then I don't worry I just walk away from them.
Easy enough for me to set my own limits.
Other areas they want a lot of money and give very little in return.
So if you think you got excellent service and GFE. Then sure why not give what you can.
-
[QUOTE=Globe Spinner;1146412]Give me a break, guys. I only gave her a big tip because she hung in like a real trooper but could hardly walk after. She certainly wasn't working any more that day or probably the next.[/QUOTE]Damn! What are you packing Globe Spinner? You tipped her over 70 percent [B]AND[/B] You broke her pussy taking her out of circulation for a couple days. LOL
-
Tipping the girl
G. S. And others,
I believe the" ask and you will receive "is not a true indication of what will happen. They can ask all they want but if I don't like the amount I don't pay it.
On the other hanbd if I feel they performed to a high degree, be generous.
Put yourself in their position. Would you ask for a high amount or low ball the guy if you were the girl. ?
I am sure your lady will realize that you gave her an excelent tip after she has been providing service for a while. If she is new The next guy may get great service with her thinking I may get it again. Or if I perform to a high degree I get more as she becomes more experienced. Or she could expect it and be disappointed when not received.
If you felt 500 was good, good for you.
All this shows is there is no set amount as each individual is as different as the girls and the service they provide.
Do what you think is best and worry if I paid to much. . One girl is not going to spread the rumor and have all the girls asking the 500 tip.
-
Tipping
Would it help my position (and standing with this esteemed group) if I mentioned that she never asked for a tip?
-
[QUOTE=Globe Spinner;1146572]Would it help my position (and standing with this esteemed group) if I mentioned that she never asked for a tip?[/QUOTE]I think you are being criticized by the SIZE of your tip, not the fact that you actually gave one. We see this over and over again in AC. Guys tipping way too much. These acts of spoiling the girls has only made the scene worse, IMO.
-
You did the right thing. If you ever go back to Philippines this gal might very well meet you on your terms. Assuming she isn't getting 100X payments from some Internet sucker.
I also respect the criticisms from others. Over paying may spoil some gals. Of course overpaying may inspire the overpayee to invite her cousins and sisters to join the ISG fun club.
I guess I'm generous and a good tipper since a lot of gals (p4p, and others) text me for a repeat meeting.
And it usually gets better if you have some time to spend with her. X.
[QUOTE=Globe Spinner;1146572]Would it help my position (and standing with this esteemed group) if I mentioned that she never asked for a tip?[/QUOTE]
-
[QUOTE=Prison Break;1146376]A tip of 500p for a ST is ridiculous period.[/QUOTE]My general observation is AC girls do not just come out and demand a tip. Many just walk out without expecting any tip. These are mainly fresh girls who think what cut they get from the barfine and drinks is a good day's earning.
Girls are happy if you take them out for breakfast or lunch.
I have not heard of any demands and ugly incidents involving a tip in AC.
-
[QUOTE=Sammon;1146784]I have not heard of any demands and ugly incidents involving a tip in AC.[/QUOTE]I've had many girls ask for a tip after ST. Let's face it, the girls are more spoiled than ever before and the only ones to blame for this is the overpaying tourist. I don't want to play the blame game or criticize too much, but when someone comes on this board and brags about his "way over the top" tip, then bashing is expected.
Experienced mongers have spent long hours providing valuable info on this board only to have others come along and spoil great locations. I highly advocate keeping good mongering destinations secret and only sharing them with experienced mongers though pm.
-
[QUOTE=Globe Spinner;1146572]Would it help my position (and standing with this esteemed group) if I mentioned that she never asked for a tip?[/QUOTE]Umm, I don't think that will help, she didn't ask for a tip and you gave her 500 anyways. I shudder to think what you would have given her if she had actually *asked* for a tip.
In my experience, when the girl asks for a "tip" she is really asking for trike money. To be honest, I don't have a problem giving them that if they did a good job. Having said that, giving 50 pesos is more than enough for a trike. And in the end, they'll probably just take a jeepney anyways!
Still don't understand why a ST girl needs a tip, though...
But don't worry about it, Globe Spinner; your tipping seems to be on par with what the Japanese and Koreans are tipping nowadays. It's just how AC is now, guys either need to adapt, or go somewhere else.
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1146801]Experienced mongers have spent long hours providing valuable info on this board only to have others come along and spoil great locations. I highly advocate keeping good mongering destinations secret and only sharing them with experienced mongers though pm.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I'm looking at other places to go. Burma sounds interesting, but two problems are spotty internet connection, and no ATMs in the country. But Burmese pussy intrigues me for some reason.
In South America, Paraguay sounds pretty good. Ecuador used to be good, but it sounds like the scene there has changed a lot in the last few years.
PM sent, Amjeck.
-
I used to be of the mind set of no to little tipping for the girls myself. Until I visited the provinces and saw first hand what conditions these girls and families live.
Now I am a modestly tip. (even waitresses). I have plenty of expat friends who I bar hop with. And yes the expats complain. All the time. But do I care. Nope. Too dam bad. Its my money. As far as I'm concerned. Not only do I tip. I do all the tourist money crap.
Buy a table full of girls ladies drinks. Not intending to BF any. Just to have around. (which my expat friends really hate). I prefer buying the drinks than those poppers. Which I find a little too noisy. But I have tip a bucket or two in my day. . I look at it as entertaining. Fun along with helping the girls whether small or large. And it doesn't really cost that much. $5 to $10 here and there.
These girls have it tough. And as far as I'm concerned. If they are around when I'm there I try to spread the love. Can I help all. Nope. Do I do it every day. Nope. But I do it. Yep when the feeling hits me. At least a few times each trip and I can tell you this when I go to these bars. The service I get is "Out of this world" as they say.
A girl once told me when the mommie came and got her from the province she didn't know she would be doing BF's and didn't like it. I paid for her to go back to the province permanently. Back to her pinoy boyfriend She went home. And never returned.
Not only the girls. A t-shirt guy. Told me he hadn't made a sell and was hungry. I just out right gave him 100 pesos. I buy trinkets from the touts and give away to the girls. Whoever wants it.
Some guys spend on luxury hotels. I make people happy.
My motto is when I'm in town "Everyone eats"
-
Public wi-fi
Is there a starbucks or other public place with a decent free wifi signal?
-
Yep
[QUOTE=Ezinho; 1146828]Umm, I don't think that will help, she didn't ask for a tip and you gave her 500 anyways. I shudder to think what you would have given her if she had actually *asked* for a tip.
In my experience, when the girl asks for a "tip" she is really asking for trike money. To be honest, I don't have a problem giving them that if they did a good job. Having said that, giving 50 pesos is more than enough for a trike. And in the end, they'll probably just take a jeepney anyways!
Still don't understand why a ST girl needs a tip, though. [/QUOTE]She's going to walk to fields (close by) and catch the jeep. P30's going to get her home (although the trikes are a ripoff). Tip of 50 is fine. If they come from the santos ST bars they are just walking back there and don't need anything. I've been called cheap charlie for this, but I'm like EZ, the only tip needed for any length of time should be tryke or jeep money. Tipping 300, 500, 1000 (we've seen more) is nutty. But to each his own. My point: Look what tipping has done to the place. Spoilage.
If you are one of those gents who loves to roll up 300 (or more) in bills and stuff it in her purse on the way out (looks great in her eyes) , you are doing two things: 1) driving up prices and expectations, and 2) unintentionally tipping 40-60% (she just made p700 for a LT barfine. 350 for a ST barfine). If we all stuck to Ezihno's idea of tipping trike, none of this junk would have happened.
-
[QUOTE=Globe Spinner;1146572]Would it help my position (and standing with this esteemed group) if I mentioned that she never asked for a tip?[/QUOTE]Odd! Why do you care about or need the group's approval about how you dispensed your own money?:confused:
-
I agree with Run Mann. It's your money. Spend it any way you like. Yes, it might be raising the expectations of the girl you tip like this. But there are plenty of Japanese and Korean "tourists" that are spending much more than you did, and not even getting the girls out of their clothes. They are doing this in large numbers. The idea that one or two ISG members paying high tips might be spoiling the girls, is not as likely as is the idea the Asian mongers are doing it.
-
[QUOTE=Run Mann;1146960]Odd! Why do you care about or need the group's approval about how you dispensed your own money?:confused:[/QUOTE]I never understood this mentality. People who warn others about overtipping are just wasting their time. I spend whatever I want to spend. I assure you that little old me isn't going to jack up the price for the entire marketplace. Prices can only go up in general if most punters are willing to pay more. Econ 101.
Right now, the Koreans are getting the best action on Fields. It's called supply and demand. If they're willing to pay more, they will get more and better quality. You can't expect others to pay less just so you can monger for less.