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Guys,
I think the discussion of masking/removing the pictures due to safety issues is just total nonsense.
I know I'll probably get flamed for this, but here's how I see it:
If I didn't wan't other people to see me performing sexual acts, I simply wouldn't allow anyone to take my picture in the act. These girls clearly allowed this to happen (often with a smile on their face :) ). This gives me serious doubts about the 'danger' that they are in if they would be exposed. If a picture could cost you your life, would you alow someone to take that picture? I sure wouldn't and I'm no rocket scientist.
So let's stop all this talking, and get back to the topic of this extremely great forum: posting pictures!
And Belguel, all power to you man. Please keep on posting.
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Please understand me right. I do enjoy all of the pictures, but it can be discussed if it is correct to show the girls faces on the net.
It is one thing to have the girls permission to take a photo. But did they know those photos are to be sent around the whole world? Especially when they are "familygirls" Anyhow, one more thing: the "photoforum" contains too many reports, should be entirely used for pictures. What do you think?
Chino79
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Three X:
This is not a flame and is not meant as such.
"How many people in Morocco have the net?" More & more
"How many people in Morocco that have the net read and speak English?" More & more
"How many people in Morocco, that have the net, that speak English are looking for sex on this site?" More & more
"How many people in Morocco,on the net, that speak English are living in this city where these girls live?" More & more
I agree that the chances are minimal of these girls being discovered, but why risk it, especially considering the type of society and culture in which they live? The point is that he took the time to obscure his own face (and in a lot of the pics also his entire upper body) and could have used 5 extra seconds to in the very least obscure the girls' eyes so that they were unrecognisable.
Also, don't underestimate the power of the net. What we in the West percieve to be "backward" countries are trying to drag themselves into the 20th century (1900 to 2000, forget about the 21st cent.) by implementing technology and infrastructure as fast as their resources allow them to, in spite of internal forces (religious and cultural fanatics) trying to slow down their mordenisation efforts. This is especially true in regard to the big cities where these girls live.
It all boils down to: Why risk it?
[blue]Hi Bun Biter:
The answer to the question "Why risk it?" is: Because Forum Members are interested in seeing the photos, and specifically in seeing what the women from Morocco look like.
Now, I have to ask you: What should be the WSG's policy? No photos from Muslim countries? Now you've created a situation wherein the Muslim religious dictators are going to tell [i]ME[/i] what I can see. NFW!
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
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jackson et. all:
i enjoy the pics (most of them) at least as much as the next monger on this board. believe me, if i could i would get on the first plane and fly down there to f*** these girls' brains out!
its not about being dictated what you or i are allowed to see on this forum. god knows there is enough censorship just about everywhere in the world. its about protecting the girls in question from people who might do them bodily harm (maybe even kill them).
i'm defenitely not saying that pics from muslim countries shouldn't be posted. i look forward to seeing more pics from both muslim and non-muslim countries. the more the better! there's something naughty and forbidden about bedding a muslim woman, peeling away her robes and having your way with her! however, knowing the culture and customs of muslim countries we should all be aware of the risks to the girl should she be recognised, however unlikely that may be.
chino79 makes a good point: the girls accepted being photographed under the assumption that the pics would only be for belguel's private use. i very much doubt that they would've consented had they been told that the pics would end up on the net. so since belguel obviously has the tools and the know-how to block out his own features he could use an extra few seconds and makes the girls unrecognizable as well, thus eliminating any risk (real or percieved) to these girls who have obviously been a source of great pleasure to him (and to us through his pics and posts).
i look forward to more of belguel's pics from morocco, but hopefully with girls' eyes obscured.
peace.
bun biter
ps. i guess i shot my chances at getting upgraded to senior membership.
[blue]bun biter,
the only criteria for senior membership is: have you read the posting guidelines, and have your reports met these modest requirements.
commenting on or critizing the forum's policies has no bearing on senior membership consideration.
thanks,
jackson[/blue]
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Belguel, Jackson,
I can get what 3X and Bun Biter are saying. What I don't understand is that the rest of you are not aware of the risks associated with the strong impact Belguel's pictures and words can have on mongering in Morocco, or any other Muslim country.
As of 1999 there were over 3000 cyber (Internet) cafes in Morocco.. There could be close to 10,000 cyber cafes in Morocco today. And yes, surfers go on the net to look and search for sex. And yes, more and more people speak english. So to state that there is a 0.1% chance that someone will recognize these girls is a high-risk bet. Am I willing to bet my life on it. No. Belguel, are you?
Lets assume that no one ever recognize any of these girls, the impact of Moroccans viewing these pictures and reading the text is still great, and lives are at risk, your lives maybe.
What do you think will happen to the next monger getting caught by Moroccan authorities, after they view these postings and pictures. These mongers will pay the price for Belguel's disrespectul postings on Moroccan girls. THESE POSTINGS ARE PUTTING ALL MONGERS AT RISK.
Morocco is a haven for Mongers and as someone else posted earlier, the best kept secret in Africa. Lets keep it this way and be smart about how we communicate this to others, and be aware of the risks such postings can cause to others.
So I repeat my request to remove these postings and would like to add another request, not to repost them, covered faces or not. The language is demeaning and disrespectful to women that gave you pleasure. To the lucky ones that have seen them, welcome to paradise. It is your choice to communicate this to others, please be smart about this.
[blue]So I ask the question again: Are you advocating that I ban all photos from Muslim countries?[/blue]
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Hi,
I agree with some points that some members who care about the life of some of my girls. It is true that they always allow me to take pictures. But, of course, they didn't allow me to publish them. I didn't ask their permission. So there is a problem of honesty, I cannot deny it. As I have told, the great majority of them are not prostitutes (at least full time prostitutes, as many morrocan females accept to fuck for a gift because they are very low paid or jobless). So their relatives may not be aware that they fuck foreigners. I still think that the risk of being seen by one of their relatives is very low. But, I will be more cautious. So, from now, I will post pictures of the eyes masked.
I want to thank all members who sent me private messages. It is a flood. I cannot answer them any longer. Sorry, I am a full time worker, I cannot spend all my leisure time to answer them. The other reason is that many of you seems to not believe what they see. How do you that? What is your strategy? Is it difficult to find an apartment? Hey, guys, I have already answered these questions on my public reports. Please read them again carefully. Many of you ask me also to send them more pictures of one (or many!) of the girls they have seen on the posts. Sorry, guys, it must not be a one way relationship. I won't send any more pictures, privately, if you don't send me your own pictures (I am not demanding: dressed girls are good to me too).
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Hi,
Today I met two girls on the street. Girl #1 is a student who needed some cash. So she accepted my invitation to come to my apartment. Sometimes the girl asks how much I will give her. I never give more than 200 dhrs during the day. She might not be pleased with that amount but I don't make any discussion: we are not in the souk here!. So, after some minutes, she often accepts the amount. Girl #2 wanted to go with her friend because she would stay alone in the street (bad!!!!, she might be misjudged by bypassers). The friend worked at the Club Med of Agadir. She told me that she never fuck with clients of the club. I wanted to fuck her after Girl #1. She refused and waited in the living room while I was fucking Girl #1.
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Thanks Jackson. Right on Pal.
Bun Biter, you named yourself right. Fits you perfect. What are you doing here anyway?
Someone please correct me, but when a fellow Professional Colleague told me of this site, I read the Introduction. First thing I noticed was this message in big, bold letters:
This site is all about getting laid. Anyone who does not like it, TOO BAD.
Keep this in mind. Bad enough we have some fat, baldheaded, married guy putting his own photos in the Philippine section and bragging about how faithful he is to his new filipina wife (like we fucking "give a shit"). Now we have a guy whose only posts are criticising another of our members for sharing his posts and experiences with the rest of us.
Spare me the PM's. If you want to discuss this with me, I will be in Morrocco very soon. Or see me in China, Hong Kong or the Philippines in April.
Dragon Slayer
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Ok guys just relax:
CLEARLY these women that Belguel gets are PROS. Don't believe a word of what he says about picking up these women in the bus stops..gimme a friggin break. I have been to enough muslim countries to know that. Ooh, the fact that these ladies are professional *****S that he picks up at bus stops, I would give credence to that.
Don't you all just run down to Morocco now and try to pull of what he says he does...you might get your dick cut off. TRUST ME on this.
These women are all Pros. He is pretty good at building the fantasy.
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Belguel,
You may have done more for Moroccos tourism industry than their own Tourism Dept has. I sense a flock of people getting their passports and tickets in hand.
BTW, I think you did the right think by shading the girls eyes out.
For the others who may think anal is easy with Moroccan chicks, I dont think so. In my trips to Casa and with over 20 gals I've bedded, only one agreed. The others were quite adamant on no anal. I dont think belguel's experiences necessarily reflect that anal is easy with (the majority of) Moroccan gals.
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Hi everybody,
I want to answer two good points some of you have raised:
Is it easy to find girls who accept anal?
Am I telling lies when I tell you that the majority of girls you have seen are not prostitutes?
In fact, the two questions are connected. And the answer is: if you are chased non pros girls in Morroco, they will accept more easily anal sex than the others. It seems odd given that in Western countries analsex is supposed to be practised by real slxxx or prostitutes. Well in Morrocco, it is the contrary. Let me give you an explanation.
Many women become prostitutes in Morrocco because their husbands dumped them. In their early 20', they are repudiated, often with one kid. It is pitty how the morroccan society treats their female citizens (my behaviour is just nice in comparison with it, and, by the way, it can explain part of my success: I talk to them with respect and they allow me to fullfil my sexual fantasies because they appreciated to be nicely treated by a man, once in their life). So they have lost their virginity, no job and a child to support. Their only way to survive is to become a prostitute. Given that they have lost their virginity they will refuse to be assfucked in most of the cases.
The non-pros have a different mindset. They are more innocent. They are a little bit boring in this quiet city. They don't like the Morroccan men (every girl tells me that). When they meet a foreigner like me, they make fantasies about going to Europe. I don't promise anything. I just tell them that I like them. At the first meeting (or at the second), they want to please me. But as the consider their virginity as the only asset they have in life, they often offer me their ass to fuck. As you know I like it.
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To Zeybek,
You was a bit rude in telling that I was just a liar. But you raised a good question. What is a pro in Morrocco?
You can find pros according to the western standards: being alone in bars and discos, making eye contacts with males and discussing prices before following the client. There are plenty in Agadir. But on the evening only (they spend the night in disco, so they need to rest during the day). Of all the pictures I show on the postings, maybe one or two belongs to this category.
The other girls I posted belong to a different category, I cannot define as pros. Because, according to my definition of pro, a woman is not a pro if I pick up her doing something (at the shop, going to school, ...), if she accepts to follow me without asking me money and if she tells that she must be at her parents home at 7M (because the women going out in the evening are considered as prostitutes). I give them money I want to give. I can even decide to give nothing. But I rarely do because I want to be nice with them. I tell her that the money replace her gift (cloth, jewellery, ...) I would have preferred to give. To save her face. They very rarely argue about the amount (even if I give only 100 dhrs). You might think that if a woman accept money after fucking it is a pro. Yes, but this is your definition of a pro. It is not mine. My point is, when I pick u p girls, they are not acting as prostitutes. They are busy with their daily life. Sometimes I have to talk to her while she doesn't want to stop walking. And I convince after some minutes to follow me. Is it a pro? Maybe according to a member of the Christian Coalition. But not for me. And, anyway, it gives me the feeling that I am a good hunter. That's what I want.
Some of you might not believe it. I don't take as an insult. It strenghtens my pride: seemingly, I can do a kind of hunting, with goods pictures and very low budget, others cannot do or don't bother to do. Remember: I have to do the hunt the whole day. Discussing with 30 girls a day to be able to convince 3 to 5 of the to follow. It is more demanding that discussing with girls at discos in the evening where your success is guaranteed. But with what male satisfaction?
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Belguel,
3 young women I met in Casa were not dumped by their husbands. They dumped the men. Why?. Very early marriage, one or two children and as you posted, mistreated or poorly treated by their husbands. The men couldn't provide.
Two of them, early 20's told they are much happier now than previously. They are making ends meet, providing for the children and enjoying it as well. These women will do almost anything for their children.
Because their society is different than western standards and behavior, these women are forced out of their family network to provide for themselves. SW, escorts, call it what you prefer. They are selling, we are buying.
Two I had the pleasure of getting together with were 20 and 22. Both single, one a student, the second I never found out because of my limited French (but not FK). The student I was with twice was a 2-3 hour social meeting. Coffee before and a drink afterwards. The second meeting was a lunch date at a restaurant I would never have found myself for traditional cous-cous on Friday. Sex for dessert and a drink afterwards. She didn't want me to leave. I gave her 500 dirhams plus a tip for taxi fare. As I posted earlier, there is something incredibly exciting about Moroccan women. If any of you visit, I don't think you will be disappointed. Just get an apt. instead of hotel.
I know an Iranian woman whom told me Moroccan women make good wives. From what I know and have seen, I must agree. Once they fall in love, they will provide for their husbands. The men have to do their share as well.
If it wasn't because of obligations, I'd leave tomorrow for M in hopes of finding my soulmate.
Just a brief history remark for the Americans reading this.
Morocco was the first nation on the planet to recognize US Independence.
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Jackson: So I ask the question again: Are you advocating that I ban all photos from Muslim countries?
Jackson,
I am not advocating anything.
There has to be a way to post and inform people of great locations without causing locals to rage, seek revenge, or risk the life of sex travellers. The way Belguel was posting is dangerous. Yes, it is exciting to read and view the pics. I too haven't read/seen such exciting postings anywhere, and I also enjoyed them.
I am not a pro. monger and I have not been posting, so who am I to claim or request anything. I enjoy reading this forum just like any other male.
Maybe my 2 cents here will help some people understand the bigger picture and the unnecessary risks we are taking in life. The last thing I would want to see happen is someone's life taken or someone spending time in a Moroccan jail because of the reaction to a sex posting.
Maybe posting info without the demeaning/disrespectful implications can be a good start. I rest my case.
Bahama
[blue]Hi Bahama7,
I understand what you are saying, but I need advice in the form of a hard and fast rule for running this Forum objectively, not subjectively. In other words, I simply don't have the time to read every report and review every photo and then try to make an evaluation as to their suitability for display in the Forum based on a set of non-specific guidelines.
So which is it? Do you approve or disapprove of the posting of photos of naked Muslim women on this Forum? Yes or No?
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
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Jackson: I'd like to log my 'yea' vote.
However, quoting JP2U, a discrete shading of the eyes like Belguel has done I think is the way to go.
This should in general apply to all pics where the provider (pro or non-pro, Muslim or otherwise) didn't expressly give her consent to the pictures being posted on the WWW.
Thanks for a great forum!
Bunbiter