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Vegamars:
I read some of your reports and I can't understand how you can talk about Kiev as one of the most important fashion centers in the world and about Ukrainian and Russian women generalising in this way.
I believe it's almost impossible to find a girl from Moscow working abroad along a street. Why? Because she gets more at home! At the contrary, that was much more possible 10 years ago, when in Russia there was much less money.
Moscow is full of SW from Ukraine. Turkey is full of WG from Ukraine. Italy, Switzerland, Germany: plenty of Ukrainians. It's simple: for them is a little bit easier to go to these countries than for Russian girls. It's more or less just a matter of money and return on investments (price of the ticket, easiness of trip, bureaucratical difficulties and so on).
But I'm talking about the lower part of the meet market. I'm talking about girls who earn maybe 30 to 70$ per night, SW or working in some clubs or strip joints.
There are girls (beautiful, lucky and, more than that, smart) who can easily make 5000$ and more per month in Hong Kong, UAE, Tokio, Shanghai. They can be not only Russian, Ukrainian, Czeck, Moldovan, but also Swedish, Dutch, American. In that case, origin is not so important. But you don't meet them in mongerng places...
Please let me have your comment.
Unlike the general belief and misunderstanding, there's not so much difference in Russian and Ukrainian economy and besides the economy in Ukraine is developing much more rapidly at the moment. The average income in Russia is higher, but especially Moscow is one of the most expensive cities in Europe and it's at least two times more expensive than Kiev for instance just to reflect a vision of comparison.
That's why it's very likely to find more working girls from Russia in other countries than from Moldova and Ukraine and Russian girls can travel just as easily as Ukrainians. I've met so many girls from Moscow and St.Petersburg in many places in Europe including Istanbul and Cyprus!
The standards of the smaller cities in Ukraine and the larger cities are quite different. There are so many famous and worldwide fashion agencies in Kiev,Kharkov,Odessa and Dniepropetrovsk that many models have the chance of traveling in Europe and worldwide and earning at least $300-400 per day in fashion business.
Rastaman,
Sounds like you like the same scandy type girls as me. I'm considering going to Bulgaria next summer. Apparently many scandy girls flock there (Sunny Beach / Golden Sands) May onwards on vacation.
I hear many of them like guys with darker features (both black guys and guys with southern euro looks :-)
Bring it on!
Doggus
Anyone in Kiev Nov13-23rd?
I am planning my 1st trip to Kiev and was wondering if anyone will be around during the above time. I would love to get some local pointers.
I hope the girls are still friendly and that it is not too cold during that time.
Thanks!
To Lose it Here,
Which marriage agency did you use?
All the ones I have looked at look like they require translated letters and that sort of thing.
Are there any agencies in Kiev where you can just turn up and ask them to organise dates for you?
Thanks,
City Angel
Hi Guys,
How easy is it to pick up nice normal girls (non-pro's) on the street, or in bars/clubs, say compared with London or Chicago?
Im 30 yo. and thinking about coming to Kiev for a week of fun.
Is just being a Westerner enough to get hot girls interested in you, or do you really have to have good 'pick-up' skills and good looks to suceed?
Dating ‘good time girls’ in Ukraine:
One of you guys made an interesting report on hooking with girls dated from an agency. Are there any local agencies and if so, any help on names, addresses or telephone numbers?. There are plenty of agencies on the web, but they look a bit fishy in asking automatically renewal payments by credit cards. Also, most of the girls are for ‘long time’ sort of stuff.
I am trying to find ‘good time’ ladies from agencies that can be contacted personally when in Kiev. Any help?
Thank you all.
Let me remind you that the difference between Ukraine and all other countries in Europe, Australia and the States is like paradise and hell. Just feel the adventure before you make up your mind!
Hi Guys,
I have a plan to stay in Kiev for three days around the end of this month just after a conference in Germany.
I am a Japanese and 40 yo. That means not so energetic looking and small body in every part. I can speal English a little but no Russian nor Ukranian at all.
Anybody, please let me know how I can enjoy or taste Kiev city easily and efficiently. Or better to go to other cities?
Accoding to sobody's advice here, I am hiring a local guide through a German agency. I studied the various dating sites and escourt sites somebody referred here. I contacted some girls through escort sites but I got no replies so far.
If you are looking for the semi-pro's you should try adult friend finder... They have extensive listings in the areas you have posted for... Never tried them but lokks interesting...
Jackson... I did not think this would be a problem since they are not a BBS such as yours... Let me know if I was wrong to think so... In any case I will not post the web site...
Why do you guys insist on agencies when it's much more enjoyable,adventurous,easier and cheaper to do it on your own?
Come on guys,you're not in Europe or Moscow,you should feel the difference and live it till the last point without any limits!!
For those who still wanna limit themselves, www.gia.com.ua is the best choice and contacting by e-mail is sufficient!
City Angel,
I used a few agencies. I just called them when I was in Kiev, visited their offices, looked through the photos and picked out the girls I was interested in meeting. They then called the girl and gave her my description and basic info. If there was interest, they set up the date. You can kinda tell looking through the photos what type of girls they are. Very revealing and sexually provocative clothing and poses are usually a good sign of a "good time" girl.
I am trying to remember the names of the agencies off of the top of my head. I believe two of them were Kiev Connections, and Excellence. I believe the cost per introduction was about $30. Not cheap, but it was worth it!
It was a good experience, but I did have to work the girls to get what I wanted.
In my opinion the introduction agencies are not worth trying. They are full of overaged women who are below the standards. I mean why would a stunning beauty bother to contact an agency when she has so many options out there??
Anyway you can try to look at www.loveme.com for a vast choice all over Eastern Europe.
www.ukraine-affair.com is another site for girls from Kiev region!
Was planning checking out the River Palace on my first night in Kiev, now only a couple of weeks away. What time do they let the working girls in?
Have read various reports about the place on the board. For those of you who have been to the place over the last year or so. Whats the chance of getting an all nighter, ie. until mid morning, for $100US?
Have also read that there is a strip bar on the River Palace, whats this place like?
Vegamars, will forget the marriage agencies, your absolutely right, a guy needs some sort of spirit of adventure when visiting a place like the Ukraine.