[QUOTE=TheCane;2475216]Between pros and non-pros? Listen to this, especially starting at the 1:54 mark LOL!
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YY2-mrsXgMM[/URL][/QUOTE]That was hilarious.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2475216]Between pros and non-pros? Listen to this, especially starting at the 1:54 mark LOL!
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YY2-mrsXgMM[/URL][/QUOTE]That was hilarious.
Just listen to Jordan Peterson too, and read between the lines of what he is saying regarding what makes women happy. And you will understand that it is being paid for sex.
Now most societies of today are trying to program women into not wanting to take money in exchange for money. But our human nature passed onto us from thousands of years ago speaks otherwise. And our basic human instincts are telling women to sell sex for money.
It all relates back to the discussion regarding polygamy. Which we inherently are. While trying to stay monogamous. But the real reason for monogamy seems to have originally been the upbringing of a child.
So in other words, when there are no children involved, polygamy should be our natural ways. Unless we want to fight with nature. Something which cannot be mentally a smart thing to do. No matter what some greater overarching societal structure tries to tell you.
I suppose the only thing might be that human nature does not tell anyone to have sex 10 times a day.
EL: thanks for your best wishes, I am in Europe just next to Golden Time Vienna, I was married for 25 years, but never went to other girls, after 10 years of crazy mongering (probably trying to win back the lost time) and now since 2017 in a very relax approach about P6 or woman in general. So happy to being able to more or less quit my sex addiction and being able to build a far better personal life than driving from one FKK to another or from one prostitutes to another.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2475312]polygamy should be our natural ways. Unless we want to fight with nature. Something which cannot be mentally a smart thing to do. No matter what some greater overarching societal structure tries to tell you.[/QUOTE]Shelter, medicine, laws against murder, evolution in general. Fighting with nature seems to have worked out pretty well so far.
[QUOTE=DenHaag;2475601]Sounds like the same words as Sirioja. Hmmmm?[/QUOTE]The English is clearly better!
[QUOTE=Mursenary;2475521]Shelter, medicine, laws against murder, evolution in general. Fighting with nature seems to have worked out pretty well so far.[/QUOTE]But that was not what I ment.
I meant fighting with our own nature. Our own biology.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2475730]But that was not what I ment.
I meant fighting with our own nature. Our own biology.[/QUOTE]Re: Medicine. Fighting the biology of aging and dying.
Re: Exploration. Fighting natural complacency for the safety of home to explore a bigger world and discover new fruitful lands.
Re: Monogamy and family. Fighting the urge to fuck fuck fuck so you can concentrate on protecting a family unit to ensure the survival of progeny and thus your genetics, I. E. The purpose of life.
Sea horses make a hundreds of progeny in hopes that a few survive. Deer and giraffe are born ready to walk with the mother. The biology of humans is a small litter in which the youngling requires a decade of nurture to ensure survival. That is the biology of monogamy and thus the evolution of the family unit.
Fighting the biology and nature of your reptilian brain and listening to the biology that is your cerebral cortex has worked out pretty well for human kind.
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2475492]EL: thanks for your best wishes, I am in Europe just next to Golden Time Vienna, I was married for 25 years, but never went to other girls, after 10 years of crazy mongering (probably trying to win back the lost time) and now since 2017 in a very relax approach about P6 or woman in general. So happy to being able to more or less quit my sex addiction and being able to build a far better personal life than driving from one FKK to another or from one prostitutes to another.[/QUOTE]Your story is very interesting and thanks for sharing it. So I guess after 25 years with same woman you went crazy when you finally had your 'freedom' and wanted to fuck as many as possible to get back the lost time. I can't see how you had sex addiction though when you were all the time with the same woman!
What is this sex addiction that people talk about? I eat three times a day, do I have a food addiction? I drink water many times a day, do I have a water drinking addiction? Why is doing what nature intended for us an addiction. My brother was a gambler who lost his bank accounts, house and car because of it; nature never intended for humans to play poker with acquaintances and go to casinos, so gambling regularly is an addiction. Alcohol and drugs are manufactured by man and regular use is addictive. My experience is that only impotent men, frigid women, people who stick themselves in unhappy marriages and people who intend to mask their perversions or deviance are opposed to people having a good time sexually.
EL: I think that you are a clever guy, for me a addiction is when the things are getting out of control, so many times I met guys in FKK and they told me that they had 7 or 8 or more session in one day, I ask them were you able to come each time, do you remember the girl. And the answer was no, for me it is the beginning of an addiction. There is no reason to pay a prostitute if you are not able to come, better you stay home, the same for viagra if you need to fuck a prostitute better to stay home. Take it easy guys.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2475813]What is this sex addiction that people talk about? I eat three times a day, do I have a food addiction? I drink water many times a day, do I have a water drinking addiction? Why is doing what nature intended for us an addiction. My brother was a gambler who lost his bank accounts, house and car because of it; nature never intended for humans to play poker with acquaintances and go to casinos, so gambling regularly is an addiction. Alcohol and drugs are manufactured by man and regular use is addictive. My experience is that only impotent men, frigid women, people who stick themselves in unhappy marriages and people who intend to mask their perversions or deviance are opposed to people having a good time sexually.[/QUOTE]Food addiction: It depends on portion size and what you are eating. There are people out there who eat for "comfort" or to relieve stress, even when they are not hungry, to the point that it adversely impacts their physical health. Every human loves delicious foods but some humans receive a "drug" like response when they eat these foods:
[QUOTE]"The idea that a person can be addicted to food has recently gained increasing support. That comes from brain imaging and other studies of the effects of compulsive overeating on pleasure centers in the brain.
Experiments in animals and humans show that, for some people, the same reward and pleasure centers of the brain that are triggered by addictive drugs like cocaine and heroin are also activated by food, especially highly palatable foods."
https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/eating-disorders/binge-eating-disorder/mental-health-food-addiction#1.[/QUOTE]I believe you have written that you are 60+ and still able to fuck, so my guess is that you are not morbidly obese and as such do not suffer from food addiction. The Hawaiian singer, Israel Kamakawiwoole, weighed 757 pounds (343 kg; 54st 1 lb) died at age 38. The doctors and his family begged him to diet. He made a few half-hearted attempts but always gained the weight back. Several of his family members died from obesity. We can conclude that he knew he was harming himself and that he would die prematurely, but he was unable to change his behavior. Food outweighed everything else (career, fame, wealth, his ability to have sex, his mission to share his culture with the world, watching his daughter grow old).
[QUOTE=Mursenary;2475799]Sea horses make a hundreds of progeny in hopes that a few survive. Deer and giraffe are born ready to walk with the mother. The biology of humans is a small litter in which the youngling requires a decade of nurture to ensure survival. That is the biology of monogamy and thus the evolution of the family unit.[/QUOTE]I get your point, that somebody has to be around to care for the human child until they are able to sustain themselves. But that could be anybody within the tribe, it does not necessitate that his birth mother and birth father need to stay together and monogamous, does it? In fact, our ancestors lived in more violent times, so a probable outcome is that a child could lose his father in battle and his mother could be raped and killed by an invading tribe. I wouldn't be surprised if some cultures promoted polygamy just to ensure the survival of the tribe.
[QUOTE=McAdonis;2475874]I get your point, that somebody has to be around to care for the human child until they are able to sustain themselves. But that could be anybody within the tribe, it does not necessitate that his birth mother and birth father need to stay together and monogamous, does it? In fact, our ancestors lived in more violent times, so a probable outcome is that a child could lose his father in battle and his mother could be raped and killed by an invading tribe. I wouldn't be surprised if some cultures promoted polygamy just to ensure the survival of the tribe.[/QUOTE]Well when we are talking about principles of evolution, whether genetic, population, or societal, it's a matter of probability. Yes there are cases of tribal child rearing, but the family unit has emerged as the most advantageous and thus dominant practice. Against the OP's original point, monogamy has emerged in defiance of our biology to fuck everything visually appealing in sight because the family unit is more advantageous to ensure the survival and proper social development of a comparatively (compared to other organisms) helpless and pathetic human youngling.