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I know, Snowy,
In London there is a terrible situation. Just try Birmingham (not too bad, and Edinburgh ( good for BBBJ). But I think that you know these things much better than me.
And yes, I have seen that girl (and a couple more in another site) with less and less prices. But the dates are much before the enter of the girl in Gia environment.
I will go anyway with a try with Dasha (despite the price and her age...31) because she really attracts me. Not for SM, I'm absolutely not into this, but body and face.
I will update you after the 10th of January.
Pupsnu, I will be in Kiev from the 30th of Dec to 10th of Jan.
If you think to be still there, I will be happy to share a beer with you (not girls!, not into threesomes when males are in pair number ....:-) )
Drop me a post, and I will leave you the cell phone number (Kiev Tristar) I will buy in UA the 24 of Dec.
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I can't believe you guys talking so much about Gia and Dasha?
If you're into this why don't you try to visit Lefkose in Northern Cyprus for the marvellous chicks from Ukraine and Moldova for the night rate of 80 bucks!
Don't forget the first rule in Kiev,never ever spend more than two hours with a girl, especially one you've met for the first time.
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Vega and Uke....
I'm a strange kind of man ...:-)
I love to spend a day with the girl, 2 hours put me in a rush "anxiety" that is not so good.
I know, may be a rip off, may be I am too used to Prague escorts (that are fantastic for a day booking, and are also Ukrainians).
It seems a bit a Russian roulette, I know, but aren't we IN Russia?!? :-)
Go figure, I'm not (and never was) a punter in Italy where I live. Just because here the rush, the uncaringness is normal (also at high levels) Fuck and go is not for me, and I prefer to be ripped-off one time more than having a "quick" rushed session.
Anyway, I will update you after the 10th of January. And thanks so much for all the suggestions (also those I will not hear...:-) )
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Vegamars,
I am puzzled by your comment that "marvelous chicks from Ukraine and Moldova in Lefkose" can be found for $80 per night? In looking at your postings for Cyprus, all your prices and comments show that they are about equal to that which the ladies charge here. You even talk about hourly rates of $40, not to mention the "room fees" if you take a lady back to your hotel. Has there been a sudden drop the Cyprus rates?
RIC,
Nothing strange, I understand your reasons for the day rate. If you are set on Dasha, 10 hours for $170 is not too bad. Good luck and let us know how it all turned out.
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Second golden rule for Kiev: Never ever spend more than two hours with a girl you've just met outside no matter how stunning she is, don't forget there's always a better opportunity to be seeked! ( Never mentioned about paid scene anyway!?! )
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The Cyprus rates have always been the same! The rate of $80 per night and the hour rate of $30-40 include the room charge if you decide to stay in a 4-star quality room of the nightclub,but if you decide to take the girl back to your hotel you pay an extra charge of $10 for the room.
In any case the quality is uncomparably higher(using condom is up to you!!) than gia or kievescort for instance for about half price and besides you have the chance of choosing the best girl after watching about 25-30 on the dance floor for a couple of hours(totally different from the scene in resttown)
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Vegamars,
I know this is the Kiev board but I am still confused about the prices in Cyprus but since we are talking about Ukrainian girls, I will leave it here for now. You repeat the overnight rates are the same $80 but here exactly are two of your very recent statements from the Cyprus postings:
10/7/2003:
"It's also worth trying to stay in a place like Acapulco( $40 per night for the best beach in Cyprus) located between Lefkose and Girne and to feel the real joy with a stunning beauty from 2a.m. till 6p.m. for $160-180."
and
10/1/2003:
"The girls are not allowed to go out till 2p.m. so you can wait and go together as I've always preferred or pay for the taxi and wait for the girl in your hotel. You have the choice of paying $80-100 till 9a.m. or $150-200 till 6p.m. You can even make reservation for the next day from 11a.m. till 6p.m. or for the next night. It's also possible to meet one of the girls for 1 hour right in the club during the day or at night till 2p.m. for $40, but I don't advise this choice as it doesn't give the real essence of the action!"
None of your posts in the Cyprus forum had an $80 overnight mentioned. The prices are still great for the amount of time involved but it is still more than $80. The problem still remains that you can get a River Palace girl and even some one from Rest Town for $200 for 24 hours as well.
I don't mean to be difficult but I am thinking of a trip to Cyprus and want to know the prices that can be expected for the ladies there.
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Hey Uke Boy,
Just to address your other comments, I'll tell you that I was only making a joke when I threw in the line about sluts, not that I claim to be funny, but there has been a lack of humor in this thread. And I still don't understand how you read it, since it was edited out and replaced with the word girls. One of the first Ukrainian guys I made friends with proposed that its widely known that at least 50% of all Ukrainian females are prostitutes, i.e. if you handed them $$ they would do you. I couldn't figure out if he was right or just a pig. For me, I certainly don't consider them all sluts, in fact, I only joked that there were a million sluts, that leaves several other millions of nice girls.
Well, anyway, about Marina from the photo, I found her through one of the local gazettas, I never really planned to post her pic, I just got bored with the conversation here and thought it was time to shake things up a bit. I still can't seem to get anyone else to follow my lead. Yes she is a real looker, and it makes little sense to me that I notice that her pic has been viewed 8 less times than the pathetic girl on the Estonian photo gallery, but not much else makes sense in this fucked up world, so who cares. More details about Marina, actually being that hot looking, she was stuck up and cold, no GFE, I give her only a 2 for performance. I know enough now that I should have given her the "weekend party" treatment explained in an old post in the Russian section, and she probably would have come around.
As for me, I certainly profess no talent, anyway, I should just let my pics talk for me. I'll be back as soon as work allows me, probably not until the spring. I hate the cold weather, and I love to see the coats come off and the skirts blowing in the breeze.
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The overnight rate from 2a.m. till 9a.m. is $80 and the the time is fixed all throughout Northern Cyprus.The quality however is much higher than resttown or riverpalace.In short I highly recommend a trip over there.
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Mangus Man,
Sorry I have photos from my trips to Kiev. Just kinda slack on posting them.Well that and scanner gone too and just haven't felt like setting up the new one. Give me a few more days then I will post a couple of the Photos I have.That is if I can figure this out.
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Kind of slack? Gee, that's too bad. Actually Armorer, I was more hoping to see something, even anything, from Seniors like Uke/Vega/RIC, but so far, they only share their ideas. Not that there's anything wrong with that, I'm just hoping for some inspiration, along the lines of the great Moscow pics of CaTraveler.
So here's my friend Zhenya, she's a friend of a friend that hooked me up in Zhytomyr, an hours drive west of Kiev. Before I took her picture, my face was where her hands are. I can only give her about a 7 or 7.5, she was a sweety, yeah I like blondine. She kept me tuned up, waiting for the big prize. A fine and excellent opportunity to provide sponsorship in my personal goal to help the Ukrainian economy.
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Ahem...just for the record....
On the track of Uke and Vega, in these last days before the start... I checked some "non-pros" sites.....and in 5 days I got 3 appointment in Kreshatik from a 25, 27 and 28 girls. (On a total of 14 starting chances)
Don't know if them will be "paid" sessions (think not), but I think for sure that will be SESSIONS.....for what I caught from the words (one at the telephone, also!)
Is really incredible that a man in his 50s (and they have seen the pictures of me!), bald, a bit fat, ugly, with impenitent hemorrhoids..... can catch these stunning beauties in their 25....
If I would try here in Italy a thing like this, I will be killed.... at least I will create a lot of laughs.... Incredible. Seems that I will not have the free time for pros!!!!! (Dasha and a couple of rounds at Palace are fixed anyway....)
But I have just wanted to share this, that may be useful for other newbies..... TRY, no fear .... TRY!!
>Mangus... this will be my first time in Ukraine.... so I have not too much to share now.... at least a couple of condoms... :-)
Wait until 10th of January
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Hey RIC!
What exactly are the "non-pros" sites? Are you talking about dating sites like
Adult Friend Finder? Are your "appointments" just that the girl agreed to a first time meeting for a coffee? I'm not surpised at your success, I think its because you're a foreigner. The Kiev girls probably just don't want the smoking/drinking Ukrainian guys, if they can have something better.
I have a friend in London who prefers the divorced 28 to 35 year-olds that have 1 or 2 children. He likes them to have a lot of experience, hoping that they'll jam a finger up his arse, or vice-versa. You know those Limeys and their buggering! He also thinks that being divorced, they won't waste any of his precious time being coy, so they'll be hot and ready for plenty of action with a foreigner, and that they'll be so grateful for the sausage injections, that they won't ask him for more than buying meals and token gifts of appreciation.
I said before I like the amatuer less experienced college student types, or even the hard up out of work with family problems at home types, who tend to be less greedy, and haven't been hardened yet by madams to develop the "business" attitude that ruins the fun and GFE. In 2001, I fucked a 20 year old girl in Kharkov with the most beautiful angelic face and sparkling eyes. Her smile just floored me! Her tits were saggy with giant nipples from having a baby. I kept thinking I had seen her somewhere before, and then she told me that she had just quit working as a "hot doggie girl" selling weiners from a cart in the main square, because she couldn't even make $3 a day. I gladly gave her all the hot dog she could take!
I think, and maybe the rest of you other mongerers out there will agree, that the difference between the 28 to 35 Ukrainian girls and American women, is the slavic culture doesn't automatically "attitudinize" them, so they're more likely to keep their sweetness, as opposed to American girls who are 100% fucked up by the time they're 23. In the USA, even the escorts are cold hearted bitches by the time they're 20.
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Exactly, Mangus,
Friend finder (not Adult!) and some other "serious" sites.
I have had 6 successes on 15 E-mails (at present...huge grow from last day!) !!!!
They have seen my picture, so they know how ugly I ma, know my age (50) but all they agreed with an initial appointment!
And half of them have given their phone number, praying me to call them when in Kiev..... Praying me?!? .... I would pray them ....!
And moreover (as I said to friend (Hey Tosc!) I sent a super-short E-mail to start the thing at the limit of decency..... like:
I will be in Kiev, would you meet me?" and few else!!!
If I will receive an E-mail like this.... I would never answer for sure.... how rude! .... But .... it functioned!
One is for sure a girl that seeks money, but she is seeking money in a hubby, so may be that also that experience will not be so bad....:-)
Other 5 are between 22 (one!) and 29. To me is a record unbeated also in my thirties....
Anyway, I will get what they give..... may be pushing them a bit with flowers and candies....:-)
Ciao for now
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For those that asked me the addresses of the sites I surfed.... not too much new I think, but here the list.
The last is not a site but an Ukrainian portal. but on it you can find a lot of other sites.
http://friendfinder.com/
http://adultfriendfinder.com/
http://www.ua-dating.com/
http://www.russianbrides.com/
http://meta-ukraine.com/en/
(I do not want to hide you some other things.... the fact (Alzheimer!) is that I don't recall where I picked some other girls..... really! :-)
Do pobachennya
UH... to another guy..... I do NOT speak Russian.... just a hundredth of words.... but enough (I hope) to help me....:-)