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Second time was recently with Sara, she is bigger and darker than I thought, I went to see her just because of A+ and I was denied access to it. To her credit she offered me to come back the next day and said she would allow me to fuck her ass but I wanted to do it in the first session.
[/QUOTE]You need to pay the 500 baht A+ surcharge in advance at Mango.
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Is DokiDoki the best high end porn star quality massage in Bangkok is that really my only option?
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[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2386280]I was far from impressed by service (no A+ requested) at Mango last two times I went. Momo was outright bad with a poor attitude, and Vanda was a lovely person and made an acceptable effort, but her service was still below average.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info on Momo and Vanda. I can now put Vanda on my to-do list. She looks pretty in the line-up but I had skipped over her based on a hunch that she might be a bit of a princess. That she is actually a "lovely person" is all I need to know to pull the trigger. I enjoy showing inexperienced pretty girls the ropes so long as they are willing to let me. Does she have any baby damage?
Happily, Momo has already departed. So too has Get. Looking at some old photos, I was surprised to see that Get used to be attractive. She looked so fat and faded recently that I mistook her for the cleaning lady. Maybe she will pop up again in Tulip one day.
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My Two Cents
I am somewhat amused when I read members describing a session with a working girl as a real "GFE". Come on, it's not. At best it's a good simulation and sometimes sadly nothing more than a bad affectation. Don't get me wrong I'm just as big a chump as anybody else, I love the kissing and the cuddling but in no way do I believe its anything other than a skill set some girls have chosen as their style of service. On the other hand PSE is real. Notwithstanding the sometimes less than honest noisy oh fuck me fuck me harder moans, the ass pounding, the face fucking, the CIM swallowing multiple positional hard core full on sex is not an imaginary interpretation of what's happening, it is happening. But you know after all that is said and done give me a nice sweet smiling friendly attractive young lady who combines a slow sensual massage with the ubiquitous "GFE" who tells me after a kiss on the cheek and holding my hand on the way out you come see me again OK na. Is there some point to this post I hear you ask? Not really just my two cents.
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[QUOTE=Paolo99;2385448]Both times I chose a girl that was said to be A+ and both times I've been rejected when I wanted to fuck their ass. First time was with Ae a few years ago, she had a not beautiful belly and I had a not very good time with her.[/QUOTE]Ae was a feisty one who liked to scratch and bite. I avoided her for that reason. Her customers probably had to tell their wives that they'd been in a car wreck.
I think I read it here that Ae (who has now departed) was responsible for the introduction of the hated butt-penalty. She was said to have imposed it on her own customers unilaterally and, in the ensuing argument with the shop boss, the other girls backed her up. The rest is history. Can anyone confirm the truth of that?
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[QUOTE=Gargano19;2385725]One problem I have had with DD is no-availabilty of rooms. Kiss told me that they only have 8 room (though their rooms extremely big), and 2-3 room's AC is not working. Which meNs, every time I try to book, mamsan says that room is not available. This is little annoying.
P.S.: Last I tried DD was a month ago, so maybe AC problem is solved by now.[/QUOTE]DD'S Twitter's post listed 23 girls available today (Tuesday). Assuming at times all 8 rooms occupied and allowing for some shift changes it still means customers being turned away while 10 or more girls are available.
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[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2386280]If you intend to do A+, ask for it specifically during the lineup (in front of everyone), before choosing the girl. Do not leave any ambiguity, do not simply assume she'll do it if listed on the website or you heard it from another punter or it's shop policy. I never had a girl refuse A+ if she confirmed she'd do it right before I picked her.
[/QUOTE]Tangmo and Meiji in Snow White both claimed to be A+ but then pulled the 'too biggy biggy' scam in the room. I don't know if other girls are doing the same thing there.
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New girl in Snow White
There's a new girl in Snow White who looks like she's in her 20's and the mamasan tells me has no baby and is A+. She looks quite pretty but she's just one of those girls who for some reason bring to mind trannies just slightly for me. I'm sure most other guys would dispute that. Anyone tried her? She always sits at the back during the lineup.
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[QUOTE=Franciscass;2386328]I am somewhat amused when I read members describing a session with a working girl as a real "GFE". Come on, it's not. At best it's a good simulation and sometimes sadly nothing more than a bad affectation. Don't get me wrong I'm just as big a chump as anybody else, I love the kissing and the cuddling but in no way do I believe its anything other than a skill set some girls have chosen as their style of service. On the other hand PSE is real. Notwithstanding the sometimes less than honest noisy oh fuck me fuck me harder moans, the ass pounding, the face fucking, the CIM swallowing multiple positional hard core full on sex is not an imaginary interpretation of what's happening, it is happening. But you know after all that is said and done give me a nice sweet smiling friendly attractive young lady who combines a slow sensual massage with the ubiquitous "GFE" who tells me after a kiss on the cheek and holding my hand on the way out you come see me again OK na. Is there some point to this post I hear you ask? Not really just my two cents.[/QUOTE]Wise words, Mr F, but there's also another side to this coin. As George Michael once said in his hit single "Young guns (Go for it)" in 1983, "wise guys realize there's danger in emotional ties". He was secretly batting for the other team, of course, but the logic still holds.
Regardless of how angelic a Thai prostitute might be, few men can tolerate the boundless financial needs of her parasitic family or whatever other expensive commitment it was that drove her into this business in the first place. Quite possibly, she might not be angelic at all. She might simply be anally receptive.
When you enter a massage shop just as some saggy old MILF is waving goodbye to an urbane guy who looks like he flies business class, you may be witnessing the reverse of the situation that you described. Almost every Thai massage girl has her favourite customers for whom her GFE is spontaneous but the chances of her reeling in a high status guy are vanishingly small.
As punters, keeping our contractual relationships simple allows us to concentrate our limited relationship energy and financial resources on our own wives and girlfriends.
Apologies in advance but I have to use that well-worn Charlie Sheen quote: "I don't pay them for sex. I pay them to leave".
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[QUOTE=MrBenn;2385969]In Tulip, the culture of bullying targets the pretty girls; not the high performers. I didn't mention that important detail in my previous post. That is why "the awful results are plain for all to see". Generally, I agree that the shop has maintained its performance standards but there is at least one confirmed dud in the line-up. Her name is Janet. She was my final punt there.
The challenging looks of the Tulip line-up can only be justified by a cast-iron guarantee that all of them will perform. When you take a pretty girl in another shop and she turns out to be a dud, you still have the consolation of having shagged a pretty girl. When you encounter a dud in Tulip, there is no crumb of comfort to be had. A wank would be more rewarding.
[/QUOTE]I know nothing about the bullying. Have not been to Tulip recently. Further info might be interesting. Obviously some girls can be jealous of the looks of others. Being jealous of good service would seem to be silly.
Many shops have lots of dud girls. Also one guy's great girl is another guy's dud. Sometimes a girl improves on 2nd booking or goes backwards. A girl can have a bad day or sore pussy.
So to say Janet is dud is not very damning for me, unless she is the only one not ugly. Seems over reaction. I had a dud girl in Tulip many years ago and she was there for some time. Can't remember her name now. Doesn't matter. If I boycotted every shop where I ever had a dud girl, I might have nowhere to go at all.
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Suzy doki doki
Hi everyone,
I wanted to book kyoki but she is on long holiday, have anyone tried Suzy?
Hows honey from daisy dream, if anyone haven't tried am travelling this weekend to Bangkok will try and post FR.
Thanks.
Kabir.
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[QUOTE=MrBenn;2386333]Ae was a feisty one who liked to scratch and bite. I avoided her for that reason. Her customers probably had to tell their wives that they'd been in a car wreck.
I think I read it here that Ae (who has now departed) was responsible for the introduction of the hated butt-penalty. She was said to have imposed it on her own customers unilaterally and, in the ensuing argument with the shop boss, the other girls backed her up. The rest is history. Can anyone confirm the truth of that?[/QUOTE]I reported on the wild cat Ae, and stated I would not repeat for fear of hickies. Ae was possibly the only girl I have butt fucked at Mango (but unsure). I think was before penalties were introduced. I have never specifically paid for anal up front at an MP. Most girls (99%) did not offer me anal.
She agreed to give me her ass at the end of the session. Last 5 minutes or so. It was very tight (as I assume guys want). She claimed she wanted to get her pop first and I believe she may have. She certainly fucked with wild abandon. For more detail I would have to go find my old report. She was tall, above average looks, not too serious baby damage I think. Memory of detail fades.
Perhaps one could call it too much of a GFE. I prefer a GF a little more restrained, without the clawing and biting.
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Well?
Who is she?
[QUOTE=*****man;2386419]There's a new girl in Snow White who looks like she's in her 20's and the mamasan tells me has no baby and is A+. She looks quite pretty but she's just one of those girls who for some reason bring to mind trannies just slightly for me. I'm sure most other guys would dispute that. Anyone tried her? She always sits at the back during the lineup.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;2386607]So to say Janet is dud is not very damning for me, unless she is the only one not ugly. Seems over reaction. I had a dud girl in Tulip many years ago and she was there for some time. Can't remember her name now. Doesn't matter. If I boycotted every shop where I ever had a dud girl, I might have nowhere to go at all.[/QUOTE]It's funny you should say that. Janet isn't ugly. Here's the full story:
[QUOTE=MrBenn;2370091]I also made the mistake of taking Janet. When you select the only acceptable face from a line-up of gorgons, this is the risk that you take. As her smile faded, she took to me with all the enthusiasm of a prisoner dragged from her cell for interrogation and things went rapidly downhill from there.
I check out Tulip for new talent once every couple of months but normally leave without making a purchase.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Franciscass;2386328]I am somewhat amused when I read members describing a session with a working girl as a real "GFE". Come on, it's not. [/QUOTE]GFE has been a well accepted term on ISG on threads on many countries. It simply means you get enthusiasm and services you would normally expect from a real GF and often more. We cannot know precisely what a girl is thinking regardless if she is your real GF, wife, or a hooker, but hookers can be just as enthusiastic or more so.
On some forums I have seen GF6 presumably meaning "Girl Friend Sex", but I think "Girl Friend like Experience" is more accurate. ET argues, possibly quite rightly, that a real GFE should include BBFS as a minimum with CIP. I am more lenient, to encompass more. In past I had a GF who expected condom use at least in the early days (as she thought I was fucking around most likely). CIM is not a guaranteed service from GFs, in fact I had very few GFs offering that and I did not demand it. I am not so inclined to require CIP, as I am scared of girls getting unwanted pregnancies and well aware of high incidence of girls having babies that were supposedly taking birth control. Thailand has lower abortion rates. Vasectomy could fix that problem.
If girls love to get a DATY service with pops, why should I complain. If they like to ride me cowgirl till get a pop, then fine. There are girls really into sex, including a very inthusiastic Girl I used to take on Soi 4, but seems she now has a Farang sponser and possibly pregnant too.
So GFE is not a really GF, but a GF like Experience, indistinguishable, unless its better than what a real GF gives. My Mrs is a bit lazy on the bed, she likes to be serviced well but is a little selfish sometimes. I hope a GFE will give me better service than the Mrs. , equally enthusiastic, but less lazy. Maybe even a DT and CIM sometimes.
There is no law to prevent a girl from getting some enjoyment from her work! Okay maybe tough if the customer is an asshole or she doesn't like him. Almost all girls I repeat are what I would call GFE for enthusiasm and openness to having fun as well. If they had a stodgy attitude, its unlikely I would keep repeating. They all seem to be into tongue kissing and DATY for starters. Most like a bit of cowgirl, and many other positions. One likes to fuck for extended time, requiring fair stamina from me. She can get multiple pops. I certainly rate her as a full on GFE.
Mostly I am doing with girls what they like doing, not trying to get them to do things that do not appeal to them. My first Farang wife was really quite ordinary and boring on the bed in a few ways, so it is not at all hard for Thai girls to be better than that. Some hookers can be "screamers" too, and quite noisy during sex, as was my ex wife. Others don't do that.
I suppose a real GFE would include a lot more knock backs! Ha ha. GFE is as good or better than what GF gives. Sure it does not include the girl who says "Today I don't want to cum, because I won't be able to work properly later". Got that sometimes in the past.
The term GFE is there for a long time. Why complain about it? If you never get a Girlfriend like experience with another girl, then that's bad luck for you. That is exactly what some of us are looking for, and hence a lot of girls that don't give it, are described as duds, or not worth repeating. Others only look for PSE. Fine, each to their own style that works for them. A girl that gives PSE but just going through her procedures does not excite me to repeat. Some guys like girls that talk dirty. That seems to be something learned out of porn movies and does not appeal to me specially not particularly a GF thing. If an unnatural act, it would even put me off. Hence phone sex does not work for me.