The fatal flaw of the so-called Western Puppet Hypothesis
[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2792958]We will see, unfortunately you are wrong. This is a needless war. The west is using Pres. Z. , when they do not need him anymore or the war is not winnable, they will dump him.
Yes, Ukraine are fighting admirably, unfortunately the government is corrupt as hell, including your hero Pres. Z.[/QUOTE]Is that it either ignores or denies the agency of the player who personally gave the order to start the war, namely Putin. Unless the Western puppet masters are also pulling his strings, he is solely responsible for starting the chain of events that have brought us to the present state of affairs.
He had other geopolitical cards he could have played, since neither Ukraine nor NATO posed a credible (offensive) threat to Russia. He chose to invade in 2022 because he believed the false reports from his own FSB about pro-Russia sentiment in Ukraine, and because he thought the West would lack the resolve to stand against him. As the knight said to Indiana Jones in the Last Crusade, "he chose poorly".
Agree that this is a needless war. But Putin is solely responsible for starting it and he can stop it at anytime.
You and others talk about "the West" as though it was a single person with a single mind. In fact the Western alliance of countries that are supporting Ukraine range from very conservative, like Poland, to very liberal European countries. Each country has their own agenda and they don't always agree with each other. Some countries, like the Baltics and Nordics, are pushing for maximum firepower to be transferred ASAP so Ukraine can win quickly. Others, like Germany, are slow-walking aid because they fear escalation or perhaps because they want a post-war relationship with Russia. And I'm sure there are elements in some Western countries who are happy to see a drawn out conflict that will tend to drain and impoverish Russia. But the idea that the West is comprised of a monolithic and completely unified force is a myth.
The West is made up of individual countries and the leaders of those countries are constrained by the checks and balances of their own systems. Putin has no constraints as he's an absolute dictator. But even if Putin was killed or removed his successor would find it hard to change course because the Russian propaganda masters have convinced the population that this is some kind of holy and righteous cause. How can you say "my bad" and backtrack from that without tearing at the very fabric of Russian society?
P.S. It's hilarious to see posters talk about corruption in Ukraine while being absolutely silent about the uber-corrupt Kremlin kleptocracy. Like many post-Soviet countries, Ukraine needs to work at shedding the old ways and, as they move forward toward EU membership, they are more incentivized to do so than ever before.
You keep referring to The Plan
[QUOTE=Questner;2793045]Interesting fact: the Christmas tree at the Maidan Square of the 2013-2014 winter season had a hanged man on one of the branches; the maddening crowd continued to dance around.
The plan the present Glans-Fuhrer has in his bunker is how to cut dope.[/QUOTE]Yet all we get from you is your own dope-fueled imaginings.
Russians and Chinese are brothers forever
[QUOTE=Riina;2793058]Maybe so, but Ukraine will be its first tute.[/QUOTE]Too late. Russia is ALREADY China's first "tute". Present tense, LOL.
There was a song during Stalin times: Russians and Chinese are brothers forever, LOL.
A few years later China turned into a mortal enemy of the USSR.
Can anyone with half a brain not see where THIS is going?
[B]Why Chinese farmers have crossed border into Russia's Far East[/B]
[QUOTE]Based on data released by the state land register, BBC Russian calculated that Chinese citizens either owned or leased at least 350,000 hectares (3,500 sq km) of Far Eastern land in Russia. In 2018, around 2.2 million hectares of Russian land in the region was used for agricultural purposes.
The actual proportion could be higher, the BBC has learned. Chinese farmers are, according to BBC research, represented in 40% of the Far East...[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-50185006[/URL]
[B]Why invade when you can buy? China already owns 80% of Russian region[/B]
Aleksandr Liventhal, the governor of Russia's Jewish Autonomous Oblast, says that according to the data he has, "80 percent of the land" in that region which borders China's Heilongjiang Province is now "controlled by the Chinese," a statement certain to spark new fears among Russians about China's intentions and Moscow's failure to counter them.
There are some Russian farmers there after all, ethnic Russians make up nearly 93 percent of the population of the Jewish Autonomous Oblast (Jews number less than one percent of the total population of just over 176,000) but "by legal means or illegal means or various methods," the Chinese have taken control of the vast majority of it.
Worse, Liventhal says, the Chinese owners have sown 85 percent of the land they control with soy, a plant that "kills the land," thus further reducing the economic prospects of what is already a depressed area.
More light reading for Mother Russia fanboys:
[B]The authorities of Russias Trans-Baikal Territory announced their decision on leasing out to China a total of 115,000 hectares of land for a term of 49 years[/B]
[URL]https://tass.com/russia/802162[/URL]
[URL]https://www.ft.com/content/700a9450-1b26-11e5-8201-cbdb03d71480[/URL]
[B]Russia offers 2.5 million acres of land to Chinese farmers[/B]
[URL]https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy-defence/article/2159713/russia-offers-25-million-acres-land-chinese-farmers[/URL]
Go Russia, LOL!
Maps are already changing in China
[URL]https://www.kyivpost.com/post/13560[/URL]
"China's Ministry of Natural Resources has just issued new regulations on map content, which require the addition of old Chinese names to the current Russian-pronounced geographical names of eight places along the Russian-Chinese border," Radio France International in Chinese reported on Feb. 23.
It elaborates that Under Beijing's new directive, Vladivostok once again is called Haishenwai (meaning Sea Cucumber Bay) while Sakhalin Island is called Kuyedao. The Stanovoy Range is back to being called the Outer Xing'an Range in Chinese. ".
Looks like the Sinofication of Russia has begun.