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Any good clubs/bars in Graz ?
Going there on business in February.
just returned from a business trip to the beatiful graz. sexlife is very active and is concentrated in numerous night bars. they are mainly situated in two southern districts, lend and gries, just near the center, but on the opposite side of the river.
on lendgasse and lendplatz you will find at least 6 or 7 locals. others are rep001tered in lend and gries; i counted at least 15.
the choice of girls is very good. if you do not like the girls in one local, do not worry: in max 50 meters you find another. the price is uniform: 90-100 euros for 30 minutes.
i have chosen a beautiful bulgarian adriana (20yo, 175 tall, slim, small tits, perfect body) in salambo bar on lendgasse. she speaks reasonable english.
adriana is a real niphomane. it seems that she works for pleasure more than for money. i visited her 3 times, and all three times she had orgasm. well, if she simulated, the she is an oscar-winning actress. she gave me a bbbj with swallowing (within these 90 euros).
moreover, since i am a fan of rep002s, i offered her 100 euros for drinking my [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url]. she agreed and did it quite enthusiastically. i practiced this with many girls in different countries, but never witnessed one who did it with pleasure. she told me that she often plays pissing games with her boyfriend.
if you are into this stuff, speak with her directly and discretely, not with the house keeper. be polite and kind with her, and you will be highly rewarded.
To Iron Felixus' great GRAZ report I want to add an actual hot tip: These days I visited a hungarian girl who provides a nice BBBJ for a good price.
Here are the data an the report:
Address: Austeingasse 32, 1st floor, Top 6. The front door is off street (garage entry). Ring the RED button. Tel.number: 0664-5555424. Mon-Fri 10am - 9pm, Sat 10am - 4pm
It is a young girl from Hungary, nice body, not too slim, but also not fat at all. A little like a girlfriend, had a nice talk with her. It is a private flat (but she does not live there).
She provides a BBBJ for EUR 40, BBBJ with CIM EUR 50. It is a tender BJ without much hand action. Not the absolute best compared to other BBBJ providers, but not bad at all for that price.
Disadvantage: No fresh towels for the bath.
Well worth a try when you go to the nice city of Graz, which is the "Capital of Culture of Europe 2003".
GL
Thanks, glenlivet
I plan to return to Austria in Ocober. I'll try your girl.
By the way, how did you find her? There is a lot of excellent bars in Graz, but I never succeeded to locate "Privatwohnungen". Any tips?
Hi Iron Felixus,
I found that girl on the Forum of the Austrian site "www.6fuehrer.at", which is quite a chit-chat forum in German language, but some good tips hidden there.
Looking forward to your next report.
GL
All,
As a newbie to this world, I'd appricate any guidance. I'm looking for any information on any action in Innsbruck Austria. I have an upcoming business trip to Innsbruck and like to make the trip a bit more interesting! I'm not very picky, but if I were then I'd really like to find a dom lady to help me live some fantazises.
Again thanks,
Slave Boy
Hello All,
My 1st report.
I went to Lady-O in Innsbruck on Thursday evening (11:30). Lady-O is a ‘variety’club where they dance and perform on stage while all the girls try and get you to pick them for the evening. After arriving there is a 2.5 euro charge to get in. Then you are lead down to a dark bar/stage where the girls are waiting. As you sit down they all look at you trying to make contact so you pick them. Probably about 20 girls, ranging from 3 (scary grandma type) to 8+, dark, blonde, all types. I saw a couple of small black women and eyed one as I sat down.
The waitress took my drink order and the girl I eyed immediately came over after that. (Apparently they wait for you to spend the drink money 1st.) Her name was NIcki, small breasts and a solid body (great ass). As she snuggled up and made herself known, another girl started a slow strip dance. Nicki then asked for a dink., I said I just wanted her and asked how it worked there. She explained 270 euro for 1 hour anything I want(I specifically asked for anal). Expensive yes, but it had been a slow week. So I agreeed. Paid her she took the money to the bar and before she returned the waitress came with my drink bill,. 21 euro for an Orange juice!!! Obvious I had to pay that before Nicki would return. I paid and Nicki came and said, lets go.
She led me up some stairs to a set of rooms above the bar. There she suggested champagne and a shower. I agreed to shower if she would as well. (Not wanting to leave my wallet without me.) She didn’t want to and kept trying to make me. Finally she stopped and we undressed and got to work. She fondled me, I fingered her and ate her. I then said I wanted her ass, she said no, virgin, no do that…Her English got bad real quick. So we did covered BJ, straight sex, some but not a lot of enthusiasm. She tried to get me to have champagne again and finally said time was up(after saying ‘Buy more of me, please.) Cleaned up and left. She said she got 120 from the 270, 140 if I had opened the champagne. Walked but through the bar and out
Overall- a 4-5 rating.
I did find out that behind Lady-O is Villa-O which is the same operation, but no bar/dance, just a girl line up and rooms. Should be cheaper. May try that tonight.
BTW – Lady Sarah Jenkins advertised at domtirol.com sounded fun ,but speaks little to no English. Had to pass.
Thanks,
Slave Boy
Follow-up:
Villa O located behind Lady-O is basically the same thing, in fact it is the same girls, but in fancier rooms. No bar, just a lineup of girls. Very nice rooms, but prices start at 180 e$ for 30 min and are 260 for 60 min and then up from there. The quality of women is the same as Lady o - ranging from 2 to solid 10.
There are also a series of Go-Go /table dance bars off University and Mueseum Strasse. (on a short connecting road near the University). These are basically Russian woman who will tease the hell out of you. You get to touch and be touched by 2-4 at a time. A lot of fun, but remember that you really will not get anymore. There are 2 on the street, one directly under the Chinese restaurant, and one next door. The latter is much better. At the foprmer the girls are very sullen.
BTW - Returned to Lady-O - just to watch the show, but discovered 'Chantel' a south american beauty who I had to have. She was a solid 9-10, peitte, dark hair (long), and very creative. As my tastes run a bit of kink, she really was wonderful. I just wish I was rich enough to enjoy her for the whole evening.
All for now, more on the next trip (looks like China next month!)
Slave Boy
FYI,
Just 58 KM prior to Innsbruck on A12 is a town called Worgl.
Pronounced vor-gull.
It has a converted mansion called La Villa. It has two bars and generous sitting areas.
The drinks are free if you take one of their girls up to a room.
The standard rooms have a Jacuzzi tub and separate shower.
King bed with mirrors on the ceilings.
Everything is decorated like a mansion.
The girls are mostly Eastern Europeans and range from 19-30 yrs.
They range from 6-9 with the majority in the 7-8s.
The cost for the room and a girl was 275 EUR. for 40 minutes.
Most of the girls work there for three months and then go back home. It is very difficult for them to stay very long since the Austrians are very strict about their work permits.
Meaning that the Austrians do not let too many foreign nationals
work in there country very long. Unless they can prove that their service is a benefit to Austria or its people. Seems to me that the girls would qualify easily.
La Villa is located just a few miles off A12 when entering the town from the north.
It was originally owned and operated by the gentleman that opened Lady-O in Innsbruck.
Hi,
Did anyone visit this place [url]www.laufhaus-villach.at[/url]
If yes what about it?
Thanks
Does anyone knows something about Villach area?
Karil,
This report is long over due, I apologize for that. I was in Villach in early July for a weekend and I stopped by the Laufhaus to see what it was all about. The entrance is on a very busy street and you need to ring to enter. Other than that it was a great time. I paid 180 for two shoots which ended up being 3 for me. The girl I choose isn't there now but we connected and exchanged private numbers and she said when she wants a pasta run she'll call when she arrives. I spent over two hours with her and then we went to some bread festival with one other worker there. It was a little weird, it was obvious what they did and me in a polo looked out of place. There are other places to go in Villach. All in all this was the best money spent. Italian girls one and done with no pillow talk :( GO and ENJOY.
Hi,
I was in Krems last Thursday, just as schol began for many of the students there. I would just like to indicate that the bar/club scene, however limited, allows for some easy freebee pickups provided your are still young. Made a happy experience there myself with a 20 year old tourism student.
For the record.
Tschüss
[QUOTE=Karil]Does anyone knows something about Villach area?[/QUOTE]Just 30 km more and you can reach Klagenfurt, where you can find the Babylon (sister places are in Salzburg and Vienna).
Bit expensive but by far the best choice in the area.. and the best location of all the Babylons: it's in a castle :-)
[url]www.babylon1.com[/url]
Does anyone have any suggestions for ladies in Innsbruck?
Supposed to see an uncle in Wolfsgraben (sp?) next week. Any suggestions? (maybe even for some place near Wolfsgraben as I understand his house is actually in a town 3/4 the way to Wolfsgraben on the way from Vienna)
Thanks!
Thin Ice
Hey Ryan, try out this site " http://www.sexmagazin.at/sexmagazin.php?cp=sexmagazin" Its has information on all regions of Austria.
Stirling
Currently in Vienna. Man what a city! What women!
Heading to Pressbaum, any recommendations? Esspecially for late night fun.
Any recommendations?
Any attractions in Jenbach? If not, what is the nearest place where some interesting actions (at least a massage parlour) can be found.
[QUOTE=Great Wall]Any attractions in Jenbach? If not, what is the nearest place where some interesting actions (at least a massage parlour) can be found.[/QUOTE]
You should go to Innsbruck which is the state capital of a part in Austria called Tyrol.
There you are going to find strip clubs, massage parlours, ***** houses....
[QUOTE=Thin Ice]Currently in Vienna. Man what a city! What women!
Heading to Pressbaum, any recommendations? Esspecially for late night fun.[/QUOTE]Looking for a good independent or massage, would appreciate any recommendations.
Thank you.
[QUOTE=Scoiattolo49]Just 30 km more and you can reach Klagenfurt, where you can find the Babylon (sister places are in Salzburg and Vienna).
Bit expensive but by far the best choice in the area.. and the best location of all the Babylons: it's in a castle :-)
[url]www.babylon1.com[/url][/QUOTE]Wonderful place, wonderful girls, a fantastic setting. Not expensive for what you get, just my opinion. Anastasia always in my mind.
Looking for a good place in Innsbruck?
Try Casa Bianca in Innsbruck.
I've been there many times now, this is absolutely the best place to find.
Nice women, very friendly.
One of the bet places I've ever been all over the world!
Does anyone have any intel on tips on Wr. Neustadt, approx. 30km south of Vienna?
I have scouted 2 establishments ("Swingerclub", [url]http://www.other-sight.com/SCWN/info01.htm[/url], and "King's Club", [url]http://www.kingsclub.at/[/url]). I am primarily interested in massage, with "extras" from time to time, and usually prefer private apartments or studios.
I might, however, try one of the aforementioned clubs and will report my findings.
Happy hunting!
Conn.
Conn,
I’ve personally good experience with the Kingsclub. I know the club as a classical night club. Prices: around 180 – 210 hour / hour; drinks relatively cheap; Services depending on the girl (mostly of Slovakia, Hungary, Poland, Czech.); Prices: around 180 – 210 EUR / hour;
I know from their website that they are offering massage (during the day? ) but I don’t have experience.
The Swinger Club I don’t know personally. According local forums it seems to be more a fake.
My general opinion is that the service in Vienna (40 km from Wiener Neustadt, 20 minutes with car) is better. In the south of Vienna (directly near the highway from Wiener Neustadt) you can find the [url]www.fKK-Funpalast. At[/url] (offering professional massage plus girls offering.). 10 minutes more with car you can find [url]www.goldentime. At[/url], also a Sauna-/FKK-club like FKK-Funpalast but with more girls.
BR,
Ossi
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Any good places in Sölden?
I will be for 3 days at the end of next month!
Thanks in advance for your support.
[QUOTE=Tim Bobper]Looking for a good place in Innsbruck?
Try Casa Bianca in Innsbruck.
I've been there many times now, this is absolutely the best place to find.
Nice women, very friendly.
One of the bet places I've ever been all over the world![/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.fkk-andiamo.at/[/url]
They will open January29th.
Regards,
Big30
Does anyone knows a good escort-service for girls in Innsbruck?
Leaving next week and will offcourse visit Casa Bianca!
But I would alo try to invite an escort girl in my hotel.
Hope to hear from you soon!
Hello,
Is this fkk club now open? ! How many girls are there?
Lp Giani
[QUOTE=Big30][url]http://www.fkk-andiamo.at/[/url]
They will open January29th.
Regards,
Big30[/QUOTE]
Hello!
In Saturday evening I ll be there. There are only 5girls working, but one is very beauty Bianca from Poland. It is nice club but why is only 5 girls? The costumers-man are about 30 be there:
By Giani
I went to Andiamo in Villach March 20th driving from Verona (over 300Km...).
Luckily the situation has been changed. About 25 / 30 girls with a good percentage of high-average level, with some godo jewels.
Enter fee 75€ the girls 65€ half hour standard (BBBJ and FK, but some girl want an addition for it).
4 girls tested:
Legenda
L = Look
P=Performances
* terrible bad
** scarcely sufficient
*** she is possible to do
**** very well
***** Astro-spatial*
Emma(Rumenia) about 30 y.o.
An optimal Italian speaks, service sufficient, but nothing more. She is high, a little bit plump, with little breast. Short hair. Nice speaking with her.
L ** P **
Selene (Moldova) about 25 y.o.
Close friend of Emma, with glasses who make her similar to a teacher. The face isn't so good, but the body is perfect, thin with small breast, but very reactive. She loves daty, her FK is better than Emma like her partecipation.
L ** P ***
Arianna (o Arianne) - Rumenia - about 30 y.o. (but doesn't look it)
First I mistake her for a brasilian or an indian. She is very classy, with a graceful carriage. Wonderful girl, thin, high with a wonderful face and smile. Intriguing. The service is high level. BBBJ deep and varied, good partecipation in straight sex. Very well.
L **** P ****
Steffy (Germany) about 24 y.o.
The jewel! An angel face, a radiant smile very contagious. 1,63, normal breast very well proportioned an ass to die for... On the back she has tatooed japanese ideogram that follow the backbone. With her I prolonged the meeting in one hour and she was perfect. BBBJ slow and with a large use of the tongue (I like it very much), DFK, she loves to receive daty, giving instructions how she likes to have. Wonderful. After, cow-girl and doggie, fantastic. She is 10!
L **** P*****
Hi,
I would like to know more about Villach.
Please, Glonoinum, can you tell me about the girl attidude inside the place? Do they linger around seemingly with nonchalance like in Colosseum or they come approaching you for business like in other fkk (Artemis)?
Also, if you travel from Italy like me, I would appreciate a tip on the road. I am not used to ride there, so: is it a busy route or quiet? Police around? Etc.
Thanks
Glonoium....thanks great report, strange enough the best one was Steffy from German....I never got a girl from German...but I thought they are nothing special in bed...
Besides Romania and Moldavia, there are gems from FSU ?
P.S. you have pm...
[QUOTE=Sexual Healing]Hi,
I would like to know more about Villach.
Please, Glonoinum, can you tell me about the girl attidude inside the place? Do they linger around seemingly with nonchalance like in Colosseum or they come approaching you for business like in other fkk (Artemis)?
Also, if you travel from Italy like me, I would appreciate a tip on the road. I am not used to ride there, so: is it a busy route or quiet? Police around? Etc.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Girls attitude is quite normal, similar to German FKKs. They are not obsessive with you, they are looking for a contact with you, but without any tiresome insistence. So the model is more Cola than Artemis, more Oase than Palace.
The road is very simple, all autoroute A4 MI-VE after A23 Tarvisio - Udine, you enter in Austria and after 25Km you will arrive in Villach. You can find traffic until Venice, but after is all free.
The location of Andiamo isn't in the city centre, is very discreet quite place, I didn't seen any police around.
[QUOTE=Lukasek]Glonoium. Thanks great report, strange enough the best one was Steffy from German. I never got a girl from German. But I thought they are nothing special in bed.
Besides Romania and Moldavia, there are gems from FSU?
P.S. You have pm.[/QUOTE]Wow you have to taste a good german girl! I never been disappointed by a German girl. In Oase and Palace there also a very good example of a working girl of the country of Beethoven. They are good pplayer I remember Mexi in Oase and the vulcanic Sunny everytime top rate. I find that German girl are very serious about the rapport of work. You pay and you have to be satisfy.
I haven't a good knowledge about Andiamo, I have been there only one time and only 6 hours. Sure the best number are from Rumania and Moldova, but there also other nation rappresented, there are, that I rember, also girls fron Hungary, I think also from CSI, but I'm not sure.
[QUOTE=Glonoinum]... You pay and you have to be satisfy...[/QUOTE]
Very interesting...it seems I really have to try German girl, as you know, in our country, they are known more as cold women than as a great performers...
We will see ;)
Someone has fresh information about Casa Bianca Innsbruck?
I was there as an Indian visitor to this lovely city sometime ago. Besides the pubs and the casual atmosphere of the place, I thought I did notice some SW's standing by the roadsides. One of them was beautiful with blue eyes, but being new to the place I did not know how to approach. Maybe after a year I will visit again.
Any tips?
If you're in Innsbruck and like older woman then you could do worse than pay a visit to Callgirl Moni...
Loads of photos on her web-site at -
[url]www.tirol-sex.com[/url]
Some touching up done on her photos (and body!) but she's still in great shape for a woman of approx 45-50yrs...
Put it like this - I don't think you'll be bored!
[QUOTE=Gergiev]If you're in Innsbruck and like older woman then you could do worse than pay a visit to Callgirl Moni...
Loads of photos on her web-site at -
[url]www.tirol-sex.com[/url]
Some touching up done on her photos (and body!) but she's still in great shape for a woman of approx 45-50yrs...
Put it like this - I don't think you'll be bored![/QUOTE]Thanks ,looking forward to my next visit to Austria.
Missed a lot the last time.
Passed through Villach yesterday and having read reports from Glonoinum and others on Andiamo, I went in to see for myself.
Andiamo in Villach Austria
See [url]www.fkk-andiamo.at[/url]
Verdict: Well worth a visit. Mainly quite good looking girls with a few stunners. However few do anal and some extras seemed a bit pricey in relative terms. Facilities were very good.
Turned up around 2pm and stayed till midnight. The carpark was an interesting affair with an old trabant alongside a bentley and a lot of italian number plates. The place is immaculately maintained inside and out, and has a relaxed atmosphere with the management staying discretely out of sight.
Got off to a bit of a shaky start with the day-time receptionist unable to speak any english (her evening replacement spoke perfect english to me on my way out!). Handed over my EUR 75 entrance fee and received a locker tag, slippers and robe and instructions in German and then Italian that I had no hope of understanding. Given its location near the border with Italy and Slovenia, the girls speak all those languages and a few more. About half speak reasonble English and the rest didnt make a big deal about the language barrier so it isn't an issue.
A little time in the spa and a treatment from the capable resident masseuse (EUR 30 for 30 minutes) was just what I needed to relax after the drive. A snack on cold meats/salad/breads buffet supplied for lunch was ok but nothing special. However, the hot dinner buffet served after 6.30pm included a wide and tasty selection and helped recharge my batteries after pleasantly draining afternoon sessions. The hot buffet was still available when I left after midnight. Non-alcoholic drinks were free at the central bar along with two complimentary beers. They have a respectable wine list and a selection of champagne that I suspect only the owner of the Bentley in the parking lot could afford...!
The Girls:
Over the 10 hours I was there a few girls left and a few new ones appeared. On balance there were around 10 or more present at any given time. Overall, the management have done ok in keeping up the quality. The pictures on their website are reasonably indicative of the standard you can expect although there are mostly different faces, and there were three definitely not on the website that I'd rate as a "2 to 3" out of 10 who, unsurprisingly, didnt seem to get much action. There weren't any real sharks though one of them called 'Layla', a bleached-blond turkish girl with a flabby arse, wouldnt take no for an answer and kept coming back to guys who had earlier turned her down. In the main, the girls try to catch your eye before approaching so it is easy enough to remain undisturbed if you want to rest etc.
For 30 mins straight sex its EUR 65 incl BBBJ and DATY for those so inclined. For an hour session that price doubles. To blow your load on a girls tits is an extra EUR 30 and CIM is EUR 50. The few that I met who did anal wanted another EUR 70 to 100 on top. The price for extras varies so make sure to confirm in advance if you want something.
There is a group of 4 Hungarian girls who I nick-named the Hungarian mafia because they hang-out chatting and joking in their language. They were great fun and with their porn-star standard bodies I sessioned three of them over the course of the day. An attractive 20 year old Anna-maria (7 to 8 out of 10) who didnt speak more than a few words of English showed me their cool cinema area where you can bang away to various hard core flicks, with a girl or together with several other couples (if you're feeling sociable perhaps??). Needless to say I began my fun there with Anna-maria polishing my knob (she has a tongue stud which gives a nice extra sensation). A funny moment occured when she stopped abruptly at the sight of a girl doing anal on-screen to indicate we definitely wouldn't be doing that - a shame because her arse looked eminently plowable and I had to content myself with some nice doggie before coating her lovely tits. Her Hungarian friend Gabriella speaks perfect English (together with 4 other languages) and was enjoyable to hang out and talk to while my battery recharged at various times through the day. She looked mid-20's but owned up to being 30. If you like your girls on the petite side like I do and with a personality, you'd prob join me in rating her quite highly - for body alone at least a 8.5 or a 9. Smallish tits are her only letdown but this was more than compensated for by washboard abs and a dynamite little arse. Admiring a gorgeous girl while banging her from all angles is a special pleasure. The last one in their group that I did was Roxanna (about a 6.5 out of 10) who didnt speak much English but was a nice girl and fun to do bent over while standing as she was tall (around 5ft 10"). This allowed me to pump away and simultaneously watch the porno in their cinema!
After a swim and a snooze outside by the pool I was woken by the sensation of a gentle handjob from this cute blond whose name I forgot to ask. In any case my immediate thought was that I had at last found a suitable replacement for that annoying alarm clock at home ;)
The other girl I couldnt resist was Elena (7 out of 10 looks and 8 out of 10 body). A late 20's blond-ish Bulgarian about 5ft 9" tall, tanned and slim with large but firm tits that seem fake until you play with them. She assures me that not all girls from her country are so well endowed. With her height it was fun having her straddle me cow-girl and then in reverse, particularly as she had great control over her vaginal muscles doing this thing that feels like a mild rippling effect around your shaft - highly recommend!
There was one other stunning tall blond girl who turned up early evening who I didnt bang, but who must have done 10 guys one after another. I didnt get her name and though she looked incredibly shaggable (very attractive face with a perfect supermodel body), I was a bit turned off by the ruthless business like way she charmed guys into going with her (trust me - few mortals would have the power to resist a chance to bone a clear 10 out 10 like her), finished them off as quickly as she could and didnt give them a second look once she got their money.
The other girls are from all over central and eastern europe (incl Moldova, Romania, Slovenia, Czeck Republic etc). There were several more who I would have happily done but a combination of depleting funds in my wallet and the intense shagging kept me to the action reported above.
As far as numbers, there were five guys present when I turned up and although numbers increased to around a dozen after 6pm, there were always more girls than guys which was good. All in all, an enjoyable experience.
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Joe, have you also experienced some main fkk in Germany, such as Artemis, Colosseum or Oase and which is your verdict comparing Andiamo to them in terms of line-up and cost/service ratio?
Made a long stay in Klagenfurt in august and find a rich scenario in terms of number of brothels. The most are a sort of night clubs with a small bar inside where you can drink at a reasonable price. I visited several places but none really worths a visit if you're used to the german standard of FKK's and saunas.
There's only a place that worths a trip, the famous castle located at the top of a hill right up to the Minimundus, a touristic place alomg the lake.
The place, named Babylon, is probably the best place in Europe as for facilities and quality of the girls. To get there you have to climb a hill and the way itself to be there is realy nice. Then you get into a parking lot where I saw only expensive cars. As soon as you get inside, you'll be shown a price list. I could read just 3 rows... drink 130E; half hour 350E; 1 hour 450E...
Too much for my wallet, right, but I had the opportunity to make a short visit through the place with the director, a nice and friendly guy.
The place is not crowded but the 15/20 girls I saw are all beauties, well-dressed and nice.
If I was rich, I'd spend there many nights...
Fkk Andiamo
Summary:
Not worth flying around the world to get to. Its not got girls with the looks or session quality to compete with GT or Oase. Its also expensive.
On the positive side, its a real FKK, with plenty of great looking naked girls strutting their stuff. It has good facilities, good food (though not as good as their website suggests), and a good atmosphere.
It's also the only FKK south of the Alps!
Details:
I arrived at Andiamo in dismal pouring rain, on a dank afternoon. The venue was smart and welcoming.
Location:
The place is easy to find. Just turn off the A2 at junction 347, and head towards the center of town. As soon as you cross the river, turn right near the sport shop, and then take a left onto Technologieparkstrasse. Andiamo is a new building after a couple of hundred meters.
There is a discreet outside carpark, with many Italian plated cars.
Reception:
Entrance is expensive by German standards at €75 for the day. Service is also expensive at €65 a pop (first half hour, +50 second halfhour some girls tried to make it €130 the hour! ), and of course the girls never seem to have any change, so it easily can end up at €70 a session even without extras.
The receptionist speaks German, Italian, and generally some English. Most customers appear to be Italian, so this language is dominant. For your money you are given a barcode receipt (to allow hassle-free return entry later in the day), and an electronic tag like those at GoldenTime. You receive a towel, bathrobe and slippers.
Changing areas:
The changing areas are of high quality, with a disabled section, and small shower area. I was surprised at the lack of use of the showers until I realised that all the rooms have showers and most guys shower in the room. I used the communal showers out of habit, so I do not know if use of the room showers counts against session minutes.
Main / meeting area:
There is a large island bar, with barstools, surrounded by relaxed sofas grouped into small alcoves. Soft drinks including alcohol free beer, coffees etc free, alcoholic drinks at cost.
Facilities:
Indoor facilities are about as good as it gets, albeit in a confined space. There is a kino, a dedicated restaurant with catered food and a choice of dishes, indoor swimming pool and jacuzzi, two saunas, turkish bath, massage, and slotmachine area.
The small outside deck area has a pool and loungers.
The Girls:
This is a true FKK. The girls are naked, with only a few exceptions. There were a lot more girls than I expected, at least 40 to 50 cruising the common areas, of which at least half were doable from my point of view. There were about 30 guys. There are a fair number of MILFs (who seem surprisingly popular, particularly with the Italians), as well younger fitter girls. There are a lot of Hungarians, as well as the usual Romanians. The girls approach, but not aggressively.
Optically the girls overall are not to Oase or GT standard, but are plentiful in numbers and at least half are as good looking as those at VV, YY or Acapulco.
Gabi, Hungary
First girl was Gabi (I think) from Hungary. Short, slim, blonde, 6/10. Good DFK and BBBJ to completion (CIM +50). Session was 7/10
Tall brunette, Romania
Sorry, next girls name I've forgotten. She was tall, with long black hair, large enhanced breasts and pert ass. DFK, BBBJ and anal (+80). She didn't speak much English. It was an ok session, but she wasn't as interactive as I like. It could just have been a language thing. Session 6/10
Sarai, Hamburg
Instantly recognisable from the tatto of an Indian Chief covering her back. Slim hot body, with enhanced boobs, and pierced (left? ) nipple. Great ass. I had been eyeing her between sessions earlier, but she always seemed to have a guy in tow. This time she was free, and saw me coming. She new I couldn't say no, and dragged me off to a room. Downsides first. No DFK, no anal. She says she is ex-Artemis. Anyway, in the room she is hot and kinky! Great BBBJ, a great session all round. I will repeat her another time. 9/10
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Hi Plover 23, nice report, thanks.
I tried right now to send you a PM and I got this: "Plover 23 has chosen not to receive private messages or may not be allowed to receive private messages. Therefore you may not send your message to him/her."
And the reason is that you are regular member.
Cheers
p.s. How does a Regular Member become a Senior Member?
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Hi Lukasek,
I am working on it!
In the meantime, any info that you or anybody else can post regarding alternative venues around Karnten/Corinthia would be welcome.
Many Thanks
PLover
[QUOTE=Plover 23]
I am working on it!....[/QUOTE]
Congratulation to your update to senior member ;)
[QUOTE=Lukasek]Congratulation to your update to senior member ;)[/QUOTE]
Thanks Lukasek,
I hope I shall manage to meet the heavy responsibility of Senior Membership!
PL
Big30 has just reported the arrival of this new club in the German FKK thread.
Website is here:
[url]http://www.fkk-mystic.at/index_en.php[/url]
If anybody fancies going (nudge nudge Lukasek...),I would be interested to read their report.
I would particularly like to know if it beats Andiamo. If there are no reports over the next month I may just have to try it out myself.
[I will also post this under Salzburg]
Happy to have the chance to contribute here again.
Sunday, not the best day, but the only one me and my friends had all free from work.
Romerbad Feldkirchen:
Easy to find the location, nice inside, but 90% of romanian girls, not my cup of tea. 8-9 girls, 3 nice enough, my friend went with the best one, but low-cold attitude and service.
We left after 2 hours to Andiamo:
Too packed with about 50 men, but at least 5-6 nice girls.
I took Stella and an hungarian one, very good GFE, but if I had to take a third one, I thought, it was hard to find another good one.
The problem is not the look, but the attitude, too much feeling of sex factory, good girls has easily 10 and more customer in one afternoon-evening. Sometimes they stay upstairs in bedrooms less than 15 minutes.
They go up and down faster than an elevator in a high building.
Very pushy atmosphere, not friendly attitude something like, what is your name, where you come from and lets go or not. Zero conversation so very low chance to get GFE.
In future much better I invest my time in German FKK.....IMHO.
Hi, and thanks to you now Lukasek.
I will give Romerbad a miss.
Your experience of Andiamo was much worse than mine.
It may be just the ratio of men to girls that made the difference. I found more girls than men when I was there, and my sessions were never hurried.
You say there were around fifty guys, and only 5-6 nice girls. How many girls were there in all?
Do I guess that many of the visitors were Italians out for a Sunday outing?
I shall probably visit again on a weekday in December. We will see how the ratios work out then.
You should make the trip and try Oase, World or GT sometime though.
Have Fun,
PL
P.S. The RF report on Salzburg did not look so good either...
Hi Plover, it seems we are the only ones, who make alive this thread ;)
Now I have more time and I write something more.
For sure Romerbad does not worth it and it is indeed a very big pity, as the house, 3 flloors, is really nice and looks very new.
It is almost sad that it is so big for nothing, as all the girls stay at the bar, very little btw.
I cannot understand which kind of management can be so clever and smart to build such a nice building and to be so "weak" when it is about the main reason you go there: girls !
With 20 or more girls it will be great, think all the bedrooms had the door open, so I checked them, they are not luxus 5 stars, but they look nice. There were above every bed a red rose.....nice indeed.
To answer to your questions:
- I spoke about that with my friends, in the web page there was written something like 40 girls, but our feeling was that they were about 30 or less.
But think, if 30 girls and almost all the time 10 girls upstairs, I had the feeling there was 3 men for 1 girl. But consider only the nice girls and immediately you have the feeling of gay party inside there, too many men all hunt the nice ones.
That's was the reason I enjoy the jacuzzi and sauna waiting for the nice girls get free and tired too :(
- Plover if it will continue like this, soon nobody will understand you there if you do not speak italian.....I listen nobody customer speaks german....you guess right, 80-90% of cars in the parking were from Italy, why they did not go to watch soccer intead to pack Andiamo I do not understand :D
It can be "good" 5 days per week if you avoid saturday and sunday and I guess, better to avoid friday too, as surely some italians do not work on saturday so they can decide to hit Andiamo asap as they finish at work on friday early afternoon.
My first time there was or tuesday or wensday, much much better.
But again I really need to try Oase, Palace or World, but I know from now, then Andiamo will no more looks interesting for me.
Andiamo is too close to Italy, I guess it was built for italians more than for men from Austria.....not to mention 75 euro to get into is expensive if you compare to German FKK....and if you consider how HIGH are the prices of hookers in Italy, you understand that easily there italians pay more than 65 euro, so they can get extra or 1 hour. And this kill the mood of girls when you go only for the classic 30 minutes.
My friends old customers of Atlantis in Kufstein, saw there were not one but three girls that worked in Atlantis, I asked them why when my friends said hello to them, all 3 said, much more money in Andiamo with much less effort.... I think I said it all ;)
Actually I have to drive the same time to get to Atlantis or to Andiamo, but even if there are much more girls at Andiamo, Atlantis gave me much more the feeling to be.... with my girlfriend. At Andiamo I got the feeling I was in a shop where all the stuff has the same price, so it is only the matter to be fast enough to buy the better stuff before it is bought from another customer.
The problem of Atlantis is with something as 10 girls, I can risk to get there and to find only 1 or 2 girls good enough, or no one at all, so for the future or Frankfurt or Cola+Atlantis, both case with 2 days of holidays as I want to avoid the weekend for SURE.
Best regards
[QUOTE=Plover 23]...
You should make the trip and try Oase, World or GT...[/QUOTE]
What is GT ?
[QUOTE=Lukasek]
What is GT ?[/QUOTE]
I think he means Goldentime. But don´t know if he means
[url]http://www.goldentime.at/[/url]
or
[url]http://goldentime.de/[/url]
I can recommend the GT in Vienna. More infos in the regional thread.
yours! tomahawk01
[QUOTE=Lukasek]
What is GT ?[/QUOTE]
Sorry, Lukasek my mistake.
Too many initials, and too little local knowledge!
I have never been to the GoldenTime in Vienna, only the one near Brueggen /Moenchengladbach in NRW (Nordrhein-Westfalen).
In my opinion GoldenTime in NRW is the best club in Europe these days, but its neck and neck with Oase. Most of those who reckon that Oase is best would give GT second place. You can read some of views on the GoldenTime and Oase threads on the German FKK forum.
I hesitate to say GT or Oase are the best in the world, because unlike you I guess, I have not sampled the delights of 4x4 or Help.
I envy you your Souh American experiences, and would like to learn how you think things compare. Unfortunately I don't think I'll ever manage to go mongering there. At least not without a very good alibi!
All the Best
PL
Hi Plover 23,
with some time and good fantasy, you can find a good alibi even to go to Rio. ( in that case, do not forget to write me a PM ;) ) Your boss send you there to check new customers or to open new business or you plan to buy some apartments there, just 2 examples.
I know I have to post a comparison between termas and FKK, but I'd wait to have a bit wider experience about FKK, so it will be even better report.
Btw from webpage I like more Palace, but you seem to suggest me more Oase... I am in trouble :)
[QUOTE=Lukasek]...from webpage I like more Palace, but you seem to suggest me more Oase... I am in trouble :)[/QUOTE]
If you want to go for the best looking girls and best sessions go to Oase.
If you want to go for the best food and facilities, and spend the day relaxing around the indoor pool whilst pretty girls try to seduce you, go to World.
Ideally do both ;-)
Palace doesn't cut it from either point of view. Like Andiamo, the girls get it too easy from the passing trade. Consider Palace only if you are stuck in Frankfurt without your car.
I have just given some guy the same advice on the German FKK/FAQ thread. Notably none of the regulars disagree with me, they are just arguing about car hire to travel between World and Oase!
The threads for each FKK make the point quite clearly.
Have Fun!
PL
I am no more in trouble, thanks.
Bye bye Palace as I try to go there by my car :D
Pretty good club, opened january 2009.
Facility is top notch, food is better than most german big fkk-s
About 40 girls, most 5-6 some 8s and 9s.
Guests are local with heavy italian presence.
Today went with Cora (kora?) From slovakia, black hair blue eyes.
At bar cold- in the room great! Plenty positions-great reverse cowboy, great bbbj and cim.
Looks 7-8 (b cups, great - firm ass)
Attitude 8 (in room 9)
Service 8-9 definitive repeat
Also met julia from poland (previously Magda in fkk oase near frankfurt)
Prices entry 70eur, 30min 65 eur, extras cim 50, anal 100
Laufhaus Villach
I popped round to check this place out whilst enroute to Andiamo.
Its right in the cetnre of town, very close to the river. Its very discreet, with no outside advertising. It just looks like a building with flats, which is what it is.
It is a strange little place, with an arrangement I have only met once before in Munich, where the girls have separate flats with individal entrance bells, and you have to buzz the girls of your choice from outside. The bell panel shows if the girl is available. Maybe that is what a laufhaus really means.
The obvious downside of this arrangement is you need to know which girl you want before you arrive outside. Its great for regulars, but difficult for casual visitors.
I buzzed Sabrina, and went in. Very nice surroundings. Session was €100 for a standard session, with (a brief) BBBJ. She was pretty, and gave a pleasant but not raunchy service. I cannot comment on the other girls, as you don't get see see them without specifically calling on them.
It was ok for a regular taking a break from shopping in the town or over lunch, but as a passserby I would still head for Andiamo.
PL
The general club info I've already described from my first visit here:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=950376&postcount=46[/url]
I arrived in early afternoon midweek.
There were plenty of girls, and the number of doable naked bodies in circulation exceeded the number of white robes sitting around.
I ordered a coffee at the bar, and retired to one of comfortable sofas with a good view of the scenery. It's a great place to relax and unwind, as a constant procession of naked females wiggle their way past.
After a while I caught the eye of Alizia, a slim Romanian. She spoke little English, but we headed to the room. Nice, leisurely, BBBJ, followed by DATY and facesitting and a doggy finish. She offered anal, but I wasn't interested to pursue the possibility after a quote of €150. At least the rejection of upsell was gracefully accepted without further pressure.
I relaxed in the jacuzzi a while, and regretted my earlier reccy to the Laufhaus in town, because I knew I would only be good for one more pop.
After an extended recovery I spotted an Indian Chief tattooed back atop of a memorably pert ass wander around from the kino. I hadn't thought that Sarai was working today, and had not previous seen her. I leapt out of the jacuzzi, dripping, and chased after her, making a half hearted attempt to dry myself enroute. She laughed when she saw my antics, and told me she would wait for me. So after a quick rubdown we were off to the room. I haven't a lot new to report about Sarai. She is a lot of fun in the room, despite her lack of DFK (for which she blames the boyfriend).
After Sarai I was burnt out, and I left after another reasonable meal in the restaurant.
[If you do not have access to NRW/Hessen clubs, please ignore and forgive the following winge!
My previous visit to Andiamo was after a period without an FKK fix, and I had a good time.
This time, I arrived, having recently enjoyed great visits to GT, Oase and PC Dortmund. It is the latter that really put the downer on this visit to Andiamo. In truth the girls at Andiamo, though definitely more plentiful than at a PC/PT, and with a few 8s and 9s amongst them, were not a great improvement over PC Dortmund. There were also plenty of MILFs, that the Italians seemed to love, but just seemed like PT material to me.
As a consequence, having shelled out my €75 entry, and at €65 per pop, plus €50+ for extras, my libido was dampened by realisation that this was costing more than Oase prices for a PC standard lineup and service. Thats not entirely fair, because DFK and BBBJ were standard, and there was a laudable absence of upselling, but it still seemed like an expensive excursion.
As always, non NRW / Hessen clubs are great fun, and generally good value compared with other local offerings. But nothing can really compare for quality and value with Hessen/NRW.
]
Yesterday I have been to club Andiamo in Villach. It was my first time in a FKK and I don't know anything about german FKK. So, for the first time, it was very good for me. Very relaxing place, many good looking girls, girls come to you but are not too pushy, good food and nice hidro and sauna.
I had 3 girls, a spanish called Flora, so so service, very professional, but good BBJ with come DT. The second was a crasy Polish called something like Noemi (I don't remember the exact name, but she is blond and pretty tall): not the most beautifull in the house, but really good service, very horny. The last one was was a rumanian, called Morena, very GF, lots of touching, kissing and playing in bed, no time hurry, very good! Recomended.
Between one girl and the other it is good to relax in the sauna or eat some food or go to the cinema, where you can have fun with the girls that keep trying to take you to the room, so you can pass time touching and kissing girls (once I also recieved a beginnig of BBJ) and then tell them thank you but I am still tired, maybe later. Really good fun.
In conclusion I suggest this place for those who have not the possibility to go to Germany (where I suppose the service is even better and cheaper).
Have fun and report!
I've recently visited this place, and wanted to share some suggestions about my personal experiences. I'm adding something heard from my friends who shared this trip with me.
Every girl make BBBJ, very few French Kiss, about 50% DATY. Normal rates at 65 € includes 30 minutes maximum. Ass 100 € plus, don't remember how much for CIM. Shower in room.
**** excellent
*** very good
** good
* poor
- Stella (Albania): *** BBBJ, no French Kiss, DATY
- Olga (Russia): **** BBBJ, French Kiss, DATY, GFE (best I've tried here!)
- Miriam (Bulgaria): ** BBBJ, no French Kiss, no DATY
- Alexandra (Bulgaria): *** BBBJ, no French Kiss, DATY
- Lidia (Romania): *** BBBJ, no French Kiss, no DATY, very nice
- Patricia (Turkey): *** BBBJ, no French Kiss, no DATY, stunner
- Jasmine (Moldavia): *** BBBJ, no French Kiss, no DATY, very nice
- Lory (Espana): ** BBBJ, no French Kiss, no DATY
I'm looking for some FKK near Innsbruck area, but unfortunately I couldn't find anyone here. I was in a brothel near the railway station, called "Maxim", but it's not exactly what I'm looking for; I would prefer a place like "Andiamo" in Villach, with prices not too high and girls medium-high quality.
Any suggestion? Thank you very much in advance!
[QUOTE=Vale64]....don't remember how much for CIM....[/QUOTE]
+50 euro for CIM.
Stella did french kiss and was veeery good, even if, second time, was pissed off, she did not tell why, and I did not took her, so her mood is up and down...
[QUOTE=Lukasek]Stella did french kiss and was veeery good, even if, second time, was pissed off, she did not tell why, and I did not took her, so her mood is up and down...[/QUOTE]You're right! She's a strange, fascinating and very sexy little brunette. She asked me if I wanted ass for 100 €, but didn't accept bargaining and I decided it wasn't worth the expense.
[QUOTE=Vale64]Olga (Russia): **** BBBJ, French Kiss, DATY, GFE (best I've tried here!)[/QUOTE]No surprise that the best girl is a Russian (Olga).
[QUOTE=Stravinsky]No surprise that the best girl is a Russian (Olga).[/QUOTE]She told me that originally worked at “Babylon”, Klagenfurt ([url]http://www.babylon1.com/[/url]). It’s a place where prices are much higher then “Andiamo” in Villach ([url]http://www.babylon1.com/english/prices.htm[/url]).
I asked Olga why, and if the difference was due to girls quality. She told me no, ladies are exactly the same as Villach; there are two other reasons:
- ladies must guarantee a better performance (FK to everyone, GFE attitude, ASS kindly requested);
- the location is wonderful, because “Babylon” is situated in an historical castle with refined and comfortable rooms.
[QUOTE=Vale64]- ladies must guarantee a better performance (FK to everyone, GFE attitude, ASS kindly requested);[/QUOTE]Interesting...
So, Olga is saying that Babylon requires a higher level of service from its girls?
[QUOTE=Stravinsky]Interesting...
So, Olga is saying that Babylon requires a higher level of service from its girls?[/QUOTE]Yes, it was exactly what She told me ;) We must verify if true or not.
[QUOTE=Vale64]You're right! She's a strange, fascinating and very sexy little brunette. She asked me if I wanted ass for 100 €, but didn't accept bargaining and I decided it wasn't worth the expense.[/QUOTE]
I was with her when she was still blonde, you are right strange attitude, I had the feeling is a really good person with a lot of problems in her private life...
I did not pay for anal, but it was indeed a very GFE.
[QUOTE=Vale64]...
- ladies must guarantee a better performance (FK to everyone, GFE attitude, ASS kindly requested)...[/QUOTE]
I was with my friend at Babylon in Salzburg about one year ago, I got a real unbelievable GFE with a russian one and as always to have a conversation in russian instead of german or english it helps a lot to build a chemistrywith them....but she did not do anal and my friend got zero level, with romanian one, of GFE and not anal too.
However even if the owner will ask to the girls to guarantee good performance, it is clear that you cannot expect a fish could fly, right ?
And in Salzburg the level of the beauty was nothing special, considering the insane price you have to pay to have one single session.
[QUOTE=Vale64]...
- the location is wonderful, because “Babylon” is situated in an historical castle with refined and comfortable rooms.[/QUOTE]
Yes but between the 3 Babylon only the one in klagenfurt has better level of location at, if I remember well, the same price in all the 3 ones.
The other two has no better location than the other fkk in Austria.
Honestly babylon can be good only for those who still never been to the main FKK in german, where you have almost discount prices, 50 euro-30 minutes, for the same or better performance and 4-5x more girls than at Austria FKK.
I have the feeling the german owners have much better talent to convinve or to choose the girls than Austria owners, cause you pay very little for all you get.
Yep for some, german is more far than austria to get by car for example, but it surely worth to go there.
However between the fkk in austria I think the worst one is the babylon, crazy useless high price for nothing.
And it is not a matter of money, no matter how rich you are, but I do not get the point of....to pay more to get less ?
And honestly....I could care less if the location is a middle age castle of Lord xxx or just an ordinary building as the location of Colosseum in Augsburg.....
My feeling was that babylon girls were more spoiled than german fkk girls.
Surely a girl lazy will try to go to babylon and to make much cash with 1 or 2 customers per night instead of work hard with many customers.
Babylon VS german fkk girls is the typical example that is a bullshit that you get what you pay, often they rip you off so good, that you end to pay premium price for ordinary service.....luckily we have forum like this :D
[QUOTE=Lukasek]Babylon VS german fkk girls is the typical example that is a bullshit that you get what you pay, often they rip you off so good, that you end to pay premium price for ordinary service.....luckily we have forum like this :D[/QUOTE]Luka, thanks for the anaylsis of the Babylon clubs and FKK. It's good to hear from someone who has been everywhere and can compare them.
[QUOTE=Lukasek]...[/QUOTE]Thank you very much for your analysis and useful suggestions. May I ask you another question?
I'm looking for some FKK near Innsbruck area, but unfortunately I couldn't find anyone here. I was in a brothel near the railway station, called "Maxim", but it's not exactly what I'm looking for.
Stravvie,
your wellcome drug ;)
[QUOTE=Vale64]Thank you very much for your analysis and useful suggestions. May I ask you another question?...[/QUOTE]
Vale64,
Ask ask, if I know the answer, I have no problem to share with the forum.
Btw I have the feeling we live in the same country as in another forum there was a member posted the same question you did :D
Near Innsbruck, exactly far 76km so about 30 minutes all in highway, the only one it worth it is Atlantis in Kufstein, it is not good as german fkk, only about 10-12 girls, but at least at normal price, 70 euro entrance and 65 or 70 euro 30 minutes, included FK, oral without.
Or...and it worth it, Colosseum at Ausburg, but more far even if it really worth it, 50 euro 30 minutes.....or Safari but I never been there even if I hear very good report about it.
I hope it helps ;)
[QUOTE=Lukasek]BTW I have the feeling we live in the same country as in another forum there was a member posted the same question you did[/QUOTE]I'm sorry if I didn't see the old post, but I'm a newbie and must make training with search tools. Same country? You live in Italy, like me?
[QUOTE=Lukasek]Near Innsbruck, exactly far 76km so about 30 minutes all in highway, the only one it worth it is Atlantis in Kufstein, it is not good as german fkk, only about 10-12 girls, but at least at normal price, 70 euro entrance and 65 or 70 euro 30 minutes, included FK, oral without.
Or. And it worth it, Colosseum at Ausburg, but more far even if it really worth it, 50 euro 30 minutes. Or Safari but I never been there even if I hear very good report about it.
I hope it helps.[/QUOTE]Thanks a lot! If I would go there, I promise a complete and detailed report.
Really....try FKK in german Vale....that's the reason why now I care much less to go to Russia, Ukraina or Brazil....cause we have so much beyond the Alpi for so little money.....no visa, no expensive accomodation, no expensive flight and no need to take 10-14 days of holidays from work to taste russian pussy :D just a short travel to German....could we ask more ? I do not think so....
P.S. [QUOTE=Vale64]...Same country? You live in Italy, like me?....[/QUOTE]
Yep, I understood that ;) and... you could choose Vale46 :D
[QUOTE=Lukasek]Really....try FKK in german Vale....[/QUOTE]I did it! You can read my reports done in Artemis ([url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2588[/url]) and Palace ([url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1867&page=2&pp=15[/url]).
German FKK are better, of course, but it takes two days go and back home. Time is always a scarce resource for me, and going to Austria or Switzerland form northern Italy is possible in half a day. I can work in the morning, and go to paradise in the afternoon ;)
Speaking about Switzerland, if you are interested at my recent experiences can read here on ISG at [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=805[/url]
[QUOTE=Lukasek]and... you could choose Vale46 :D[/QUOTE]Valentino Rossi is much more younger then me, I wish I could :D
Vale64,
thanks, but Artemis is too far and even if I know it can be cheap if booked in advance I do not want to take flight just for FKK, too much time losing in check-in and possible delay and so on; Palace I read is worst than Oase and World, two FKK in one city, especially these ones are more than enough ;) , CH too close to Italy, so I am afraid girls are spoiled as in Andiamo, (BTW there is now in Andiamo one girl that worked at Golden Time, my friend told me this and said also she was a way bettter performer at GT than at Andiamo, where it seems even an average performer is more than enough....I think I said it all.... ) so in short time I'd like to try Golden Time in Wien, we will see.
[QUOTE=Lukasek] so in short time I'd like to try Golden Time in Wien, we will see.[/QUOTE]You would not be disappointed!
I was there yesterday.
My decision is, that I will go there more often in the future.
[QUOTE=Tomahawk01]I was there yesterday[/QUOTE]Nice to read this, but too little as report.
This was only a comment/recommendation.
The report will follow in the right (vienna) section.
Right, I was wrong, we are not in the right section for GT, waiting for you report and suggestion about which girls ;)
I'd like to remember you that the 1st of May, at FKK Andiamo in Villach, is planned a special event with BBQ, Big Party, Steaks & More.
You may see it here: [url]http://www.andiamo1.at/englisch/01_startseite_e/andiamo_en.html[/url]
I was planning to go there, but I think it will be crowded on that day. Probably is better waiting for another occasion.
[QUOTE=Vale64]....I was planning to go there, but I think it will be crowded on that day. Probably is better waiting for another occasion.[/QUOTE]Right this morning my friend called me and asked me to join them on 1st may.... I refused as I am pretty sure it will crowded as hell :D with girls more willing to do big numbers than great GFE.
The same was on 25 april, where another friend of mine told me they found italians from middle Italy that drove for almost 700km to get to Villach, so with actually almost all north Italy going to Andiamo, for me it is pretty fucked up during weekend and holiday days. IMHO
hi guys,
suggest me places where others acts can be observed in any way. could be public, swinger (the cheaper ones please), peeps with that option.
thanks in advance
[quote=atv72]hi guys,
suggest me places where others acts can be observed in any way. could be public, swinger (the cheaper ones please), peeps with that option.
thanks in advance[/quote]if you go in a fkk center, for example the one that me and lukasek were speaking about, you could find hard-core cinemas with people having sex in public. in these places you can see hard-core movies, have directly sex with girls or simply watching other people fucking.
i did it sometimes and think it's very interesting and funny. you can also ask for gang-bangs; i remember one girl in andiamo (villach), with black skin, who were proposing that game to a group of 3-4 men inside the cinema.
My friend called me right now for the report, he said he enjoyed to get tanned outside, the food and due to the high numbers of men, of the lack of one real top notch girl, he neither went to bedroom once.
He said also, Andiamo is getting too much sex factory with no feeling to have GFE.
The other 3 friends went with 5 girls but average service, they said.
Probably it is a bit better during week days than on weekend, but... I have the feeling Andiamo is fucked up.
The only good thing of Andiamo is that so far as I know, it is the only FKK in Austria with the garden outside, mystic, atlantis and goldent time do not have it, so to enjoy the summer and to lie down outside if not at Andiamo the second chance is to go to Frankfurt....not so close....imho.
[QUOTE=Lukasek]The only good thing of Andiamo is that so far as I know, it is the only FKK in Austria with the garden outside, mystic, atlantis and goldent time do not have it, so to enjoy the summer and to lie down outside if not at Andiamo the second chance is to go to Frankfurt....not so close....imho.[/QUOTE]Not sure what you mean by a garden...
Goldentime in Wien has an outdoor area with a pool.
Donau Dreams [url]http://www.dd-clubsauna.at/[/url] has a large garden area, also with a pool. Not much good in the winter, but it should be very comfortable by now.
[QUOTE=Stravinsky]Not sure what you mean by a garden...[/QUOTE]
Strav,
thanks for forgiving my english ;) and yep, you understood me right, I meant outdoor area.
I did not know GT has it, who knows if it will be open even at night time...could be very romantic and unforgettable to have session out there :D
[QUOTE=Lukasek]
I did not know GT has it, who knows if it will be open even at night time...could be very romantic and unforgettable to have session out there :D[/QUOTE]
Of course the garden and the pool is open everytime. Even when it is raining :-). Outside you have hammocks, sun beds and also lounge beds only protected with a courtain. It is perfect in summertime when it is warm.
Yours! tomahawk01
Tomahawk01,
thanks ;) I hope we will meet someday out there to share stories of travelling all around the world ;), I cannot wait to be there....oohh YES ! :D
Is there someone who exactly knows when outdoor area in FKK Andiamo, in Villach, is going to be opened?
The receptionist gave me a vague answer, about one month ago, when I asked her that question; I haven't found this info on their website, so I hope ISG will help me.
Thank you in advance!
Vale64,
as I wrote in my report down below, it was open on 1st may, so from now everyday with no rain it will stay open....imho.
[QUOTE=Lukasek]Vale64,
as I wrote in my report down below, it was open on 1st may, so from now everyday with no rain it will stay open....imho.[/QUOTE]Sorry, Luka, I was in a hurry and didn't see your useful info.
Thank you again!
I went other times in FKK Andiamo, as well as in some Germans ones, but this time was the first chance for me to appreciate the wonder of summer gardens. Me and a friend of mine have choosen a perfect hot sunny day for going to Villach, and it was well worth our effort to go there. The outdoor space contains a large swimming pool, garden umbrellas, deckchairs. When we got outside, there were about 15-20 girls completely naked on swimming pool or catching the sun lying on the deckchairs… what a wonder! The other ladies were staying inside, so I decided to have a look and choose my first one.
1) Sarai (German) = *** good performance. I saw her at the bar, while drinking. Very easy to identify: She has a large tattoo (a face) on her back, black smooth hair, blue eyes, 1.65 meters high, some piercings on her body, speaks English not Italian. It was my first shot, so I known that I couldn’t resist for long time. I began with DATY while She was giving me a BBBJ lying on my side. She refused to give me FK, but let me kiss on her lips. We fucked in two positions, and then I had my fast satisfaction in nearly 10 minutes.
2) Anita (Bulgaria) = ** normal performance. You can usually find her on the right side of the bar, near the cash desk. 1.70 meters high, curly hair, speaks Italian. I was ok with her, but owing the fact She didn’t allow me nor FK nor DATY I cannot judge it nothing more then a standard performance with BBBJ.
3) Mia (Ucraina) = **** very good performance. She’s a strange mix of nationality, having a Sweden father, a Lituanian mother and being born in Ucraina. She speaks English, not Italian. Very tall, 1.75-1.80, blonde, fascinating, perfect legs and body, slim, looks like a model: IMHO, not so far from being defined as a stunner. What can I say about her? Almost perfect: French Kiss, DATY, BBBJ, GFE. We had shower together, and stayed in room speaking in English (not Italian) after sex without looking at watch.
4) Susanna (Hungary) = ***** excellent performance. Last but not least, for real! In the late afternoon I was very tired but, after having dinner at BBQ in he outside garden, I was able to recharge my batteries and get enough power to make the last shot. Susy ware looking for me since two hours before, but we couldn’t get in touch because when I was seeking her She was with other customer, and when She was searching me I was busy with other ladies. Finally we got in touch, and it was my best fuck here at Andiamo. Susanna is not as beautiful as other ladies I’ve mentioned before, but She’s a real sex bomb: big boops, 1.60 meters high, some tattooes on her body, speaks Italian. We began with FK under the shower, and She gave me a BBBJ under the shower. We went to bed and began with 69, with my tongue licking her pussy and ass. She got suddenly completely wet, and in few minutes had first orgasm. I began fucking and She asked me to do harder, so I did. We changed position at doggy stile and begin to slap her ass, while She told me She was coming again. We were both very horny and wet, and She let me put a finger in her ass. I asked her to have a discount for fucking her ass but, even if She was really waiting for me, told me to pay full price and I couldn’t because I had almost finished my money. We went on for about half an hour of fucking and then, at the end of time, were both exhausted. Next time I will pick her up again, for sure!
I forgot to give you a useful information. For those who come from Italy it's possible to get cash from the desk at the entrance, not only with credit card but even with bancomat/ATM. I changed 100 € and they charged me 10 € of expenses.
Very very nice place
Many beautiful women (I counted 30) but too many men. Especially Italians.
Saturday I'll be back.
I was with Regina (Hungarian) and Mia (ukraine) all normal nothing exceptional.
For those who will be in Villach on next saturday, the 3th of July, it could be interesting to know that in Andiamo is going to open the new Summer Lounge & Pavillion.
See details on website [url]http://www.andiamo1.at/englisch/01_startseite_e/andiamo_en.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Vale64]For those who will be in Villach on next saturday, the 3th of July, it could be interesting to know that in Andiamo is going to open the new Summer Lounge & Pavillion.
See details on website [url]http://www.andiamo1.at/englisch/01_startseite_e/andiamo_en.html[/url][/QUOTE]The entrance fee: 85 euro.
We have to pay the new area.
The girls were all with bikini.
[QUOTE=Riccione 01]The girls were all with bikini.[/QUOTE]Really? That's incredible, what a shame!
When I was there, last month, all girls in outdoor area were totally naked.
Unbelievable!
Anyone have heard about Clamidia problems in FKK Andiamo, Villach? I've read something about it in an italian forum, but I think it's probably a fake.
Thank you, I'm waiting for news.
Hi guys,
I've been a long time lurker on these forums, but haven't yet posted any reports. I've just come back from a poker tournament in Velden with a few of my friends, and while there we visited Andiamo on Friday and on Sunday.
DAY 1.
On Friday we came around 22h, and the place was buzzing with both girls and fellow mongers. I'd say at least around 40-50 girls and about the same amount of guys. I'd say most of the guests were italians or locals, and the girls were mostly Hungarian, bulgarian and Romanian.
There was only one black girl and no Asians. Most of the girls speak Italian and German, very little speak English so we had some small language barriers, but it was no big deal. After all I was with four of my friends and between sessions we were spending time together mostly drinking, discussing girls, and generally having a really good time.
My first session was with a busty Hungarian girl, sorry I can't remember her name, maybe Valeria? Black hair, really nice looking face, nice body, and big fake boobs with some scars from the operation, not the best boob job I guess. She was ok, nothing special. No FK, good BBBJ, slightly mechanical but overall a solid session. 6. 5/10
My second session was a real gem. It was with a petite little girl called Erica. I think she is also Hungarian, long black hair, perfect size natural tits, wonderful little ass, and a sweet innocent looking face. She gave me one of the best BBBJ I've had in a while, no hands and keeping eye contact all the time. We switched positions three times, and she said something about being a nympho, I've heard that stuff before but it was definitely the best enactment of a nympho I've seen so far, up to the point I'm still not sure if it was true or not.
Doesn't matter anyway I had a great time. BTW she was busy the whole evening, two of my friends went with her as well (and had to wait for he) one was overwhelmed as I was, and one thought she was very good but not excellent. Mind you he was the last one for her that evening so I guess she was tired or something. She offered CIM for another 50€ which I declined, she made no problem about it and just told me to pull her hand when I am about to be done as a signal. Funny thing is I didn't come: s But to be honest I really can't blame it on Erica, I rushed to pick her up between sessions and just wasn't ready for her, still it was a great overall experience 8. 5/10
3rd session was with a tiny Romanian girl, I can't remember her name sorry. Brown hair, small natural titties and a perfect little ass, cute face. I saw she was a shark right away but decided to go with her anyway. She was a bit of a disappointment, she tried to up sell me into 1h session on two occasions. First she offered me a massage if I take a one hour session, and when I said no and wanted to FK she said that we can if I take a 1h sessions. I declined but out of curiosity asked how much would it cost, she said 130€, after I declined again she said 100€, I didn't like her style so I said a final no. She didn't make a fuss about it, but her performance was really bad. She gave me a very short and a covered BJ, I mean WTF? She was the only girl on both days that didn't use any lube, so I've had my pleasure to see her in a bit of a pain and after all the BS she gave me it helped me come hard Overall 5/10
That's my report on our day 1, it took my longer to write it then I thought, and I'm sorry for the long post, I have no time now to finish on day 2 but I'll try to write it soon.
Happy mongering guys
Kathy, Innsbruck, better not?
Kathi, an Hungarian, shows her full-busty student-style-photo in a shower, she looks like 22,
when coming to her apartment, i was quite irritated, she looked like 38 for me....
Was on the point of leaving.
She gave me a lecture how cheap 70€ would be for 20 min., as its her private apartment where she lives...
A small white dog was barking under her bed.
I asked her how long she already lives in Innsbruck?, She replied "Lets start with sex, not with questions, my next customers comes soon!".
She was skilled in blow job, came on her big breasts.
I would not go there a 2nd time because of her personality.
j.
Pembaurstrasse 27, roof, Kathy -bell
6020 Innsbruck
Tel. +43 664/76 70 000
[url]http://sexmagazin.eu/webmaster.php?kat_table=ins_mehr&id=8690&kat_id=23[/url]
[QUOTE=Vale64]Anyone have heard about Clamidia problems in FKK Andiamo, Villach?...[/QUOTE]
Hi Vale, I hear the same, I cannot say if it is a fake new or not, more than one reported this fact, so I believe there is always a bit of truth in lie, even if I never had problem there, despite the girls a bit spoiled and the cold water in showers and the problems with lockers.
BTW they rise the price of entrance of + 10 euro, probably for outside area, pool, but I am afraid they will keep the same price even in winter, cause they know most of customers, italians, are too far to go to FKK in German where everything is cheaper and girls have much better attitude too.
Not far from Salzburg in our third day we went here.
Place is nice on 2 floors, but the line up sucks !
One girl from Portugal, nice but very cold, my friend was with her.
A romanian one very cute, cold too, second friend with her.
Me ?
I was horny as bull, but I took none girl !
Why ?
After the great line up of ColA in the first day and the totally GFE with Tiffany at Mystic I had the feeling here I could only ruin, cause comparing this place with the others 2, I think it has the worst line up with the coldest women.
I was there and thinking to my next trip to German.....
p.s. first day here:
[post]1059947[/post]
second day here:
[post]1059945[/post]
Hi Guys,
Last week I spent one evening there after finding some reports here.
It is a very nice club with excellent atmosphere. Also the food in the restaurant was much better then expected, positively surprising. There are many young girls, most of them from Eastern European countries. The club is full of guest from Italy and Slowenia, you cen't even hear a German word also the girls started talking to me in Italian language. A little bit strange if you are in Austria! After entering I had a drink on the bar, alcoholics are extra, non alcoholics ar included entry fee. Normally in a FKK Club you start having a little bit small talk before going with a girl, in that case the girl came to me and the first question was if I want to go upstairs. As I responded that I want to talk a little bit and have a drink first, 90% of them turned away. For that kind of entertainment I can go to a brothel or hire a callgirl, one of the advantages of the FKK idea is that you should have time to relax, smalltalk to get into the mood. Finally I went with a tall slim Turkish girl for half an hour warmup. It was not bad, but maximum average. It felt a little bit like treatmant on the assembly line. O. K., I went to the saune and the pool, had a dinner before going back to the bar. Still the same so I sat around trying to find the kind of entertainment I expect in a FKK club. A little blonde smiled to me and we started talking. That was it. She is from Moldavia and we were able to talk and have fun befor we went upstair. The following 2 h were a nice experience of good sex and massage, she even claimed that she had two orgasm. If not, a good show in any case and I felt well with her. Fully relaxed I went to the saune again and then left.
Conclusion: Very nice Club with nice girls, but a little too agressive and cold acting girls which does not fit to the FKK philosophy. Maybe the Italian and Slovenian guys prefer that, me not. I don't know if I will go there a second time.
Chris
[QUOTE=Acroflyer]...As I responded that I want to talk a little bit and have a drink first, 90% of them turned away. For that kind of entertainment I can go to a brothel or hire a callgirl, one of the advantages of the FKK idea is that you should have time to relax, smalltalk to get into the mood...[/QUOTE]
That's why I am pretty sure I will never go there again !
Andiamo is where the girls behave like a brother but you pay 85 euro entrance, the most expensive fKK in all Austria and German, but very seldom you can have 5 minutes of conversation with girl, take her to room or you can have conversation only with your buddy, pretty sad, cause without conversation how could you spot which girl is shark ?
Impossible !
[QUOTE=Lukasek; 1065476]That's why I am pretty sure I will never go there again!
Andiamo is where the girls behave like a brother but you pay 85 euro entrance, the most expensive fKK in all Austria and German, but very seldom you can have 5 minutes of conversation with girl, take her to room or you can have conversation only with your buddy, pretty sad, cause without conversation how could you spot which girl is shark?
Impossible! [/QUOTE]You're right. It's the only decent FKK you can reach by car in few hours, starting after lunch from Milan even during the week, and the prices tend to be high while performances not so good as other places. It's the law of supply and demand.
Hi Vale,
I listen, they should open a new FKK in Villach, is it true? Do you know something? Or the other alternative is always the ice princess of Casa Carintia?
P. S. And yes, I meant.
[QUOTE=Lukasek; 1065476].
Andiamo is where the girls behave like a brothe-L
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[QUOTE=Lukasek; 1118246]Hi Vale,
I listen, they should open a new FKK in Villach, is it true? [/QUOTE]Never heard about it; I will check, if possible, and let you know asap
Going to this place begins to be a sweet habit for me, and this time I've visited this FKK after his recent 2nd birthday. On Saturday 5 feb they had a big party, and on Sunday 6 feb girls were still tired for the hard works of the previous night.
Anyway, I could appriciate the sweetness of 4 girls: Electra from Romania, Tamara from Turkey, Didi from Romania, Rebecca from Moldavia. I would suggest Tamara and Rebecca, quite horny and generous; Didi is very charming and beautiful but slightly cold, while Electra was too tired for good fucking.
Just went to Andiamo and found that the price for 1/2 hour is 70 euros from today. 5 euros more than before. For those planning to go, take a note.
I was there with a friend on Saturday 26 February and it was still 65 euro-30 minutes, but I noticed the entrance was 85 euro. It is by no doubt the most expensive FKK in all asutria and german.
And last Saturday the choice was so and so, in fact I went there, cause I was with a friend of mine, married, who had only little time free from the control of his wife, otherwise no reason to go to Andiamo for such prices and weak line up.
[QUOTE=Cruiser2121;1128965]Just went to Andiamo and found that the price for 1/2 hour is 70 euros from today. 5 euros more than before. For those planning to go, take a note.[/QUOTE]I must confirm that prices have increased. I was there last Friday, the 4th of March, and I've spent 70 € for standard performances. For the entrance 85 € as usual. I was looking for the calendar but, unfortunately, they told me that the limited edition is over.
[QUOTE=Lukasek; 1118246]Hi Vale,
I listen, they should open a new FKK in Villach, is it true? Do you know something? [/QUOTE]I've asked to some ladies working in Andiamo and everyone told me that the same owner of this place, a german man, wants to open another FKK nearer the italian border. They didn't tell me the exact location, but these rumors are broadly confirmed.
Hi,
Is there something interesting in Krems an der Donau?
[QUOTE=Vale64;1130644]I've asked to some ladies working in Andiamo and everyone told me that the same owner of this place, a german man, wants to open another FKK nearer the italian border. They didn't tell me the exact location, but these rumors are broadly confirmed.[/QUOTE]Do you mean this:
[url]www.lacocotte.at[/url]
Anybody was here? Prices?
[QUOTE=Lukasek; 1138094]Do you mean this:
[url]www.lacocotte.at[/url]
Anybody was here? Prices? [/QUOTE]No, Luka, it's not this. Girls told me about a new place, not yet opened, that the owner of Andiamo wants to start in the next future.
[QUOTE=GabrielPontello; 929259]Made a long stay in Klagenfurt in August and find a rich scenario in terms of number of brothels. The most are a sort of night clubs with a small bar inside where you can drink at a reasonable price. I visited several places but none really worths a visit if you're used to the german standard of FKK's and saunas.
There's only a place that worths a trip, the famous castle located at the top of a hill right up to the Minimundus, a touristic place alomg the lake.
The place, named Babylon, is probably the best place in Europe as for facilities and quality of the girls. To get there you have to climb a hill and the way itself to be there is realy nice. Then you get into a parking lot where I saw only expensive cars. As soon as you get inside, you'll be shown a price list. I could read just 3 rows. Drink 130E; half hour 350E; 1 hour 450E.
Too much for my wallet, right, but I had the opportunity to make a short visit through the place with the director, a nice and friendly guy.
The place is not crowded but the 15/20 girls I saw are all beauties, well-dressed and nice.
If I was rich, I'd spend there many nights. [/QUOTE]Stopped off at Klagenfurt recently for a couple of nights.
Very pleasant, laid-back kind of town with a great location on the shores of Lake Woethersee.
Didn't venture up to Babylon but it's within walking distance from the promenade of Europa Park. 3kms or so to the west of the city centre.
(I did pass it one day while cycling around the lake and let's just say you won't miss it. The advertising hoarding at the entrance featuring several ladies in lingerie is probably one of the largest you'll find anywhere!)
In the town itself there are a number of [i]Laufhauser[/i] And [i]NachtKlubs[/i].
On the day I arrived I popped into the Tabaris Club which is part of the Schattenhof LaufHaus and had a chat with 2 of the girls who were enjoying a drink outside on the terrace in the spring sunshine.
[url]www.tabaris.at[/url]
Impressed with their friendliness, looks and candour, I popped back in the following night on my way into town.
Nothing doing in the Tabaris part so I walked across the yard to the Laufhaus entrance and sauntered in.
The LH is of good standard in a plush bordello kind of way.
Intended to go with Livia who I had spoken with the day before but she was unavailable so after a bit of interviewing I ended up with Brazilian Vanessa.
Prices seem to be standard at €90 for 30mins and 160 for an hour.
(There's also a €10 surcharge if you stay after 23.00 hours).
She offered me full service including NF and Greek for 200 for the hour but we compromised at the same service for €170 for 45 mins.
All delivered as promised but she was obsessed with hygiene and after washing Mr Johnson before commencement, she interrupted proceedings to clean him with wipes on a few other occasions which didn't help matters.
After that, she introduced him into her bottom in the spoon position and gently built to a rhythm she was comfortable with.
Then she eased over onto her belly and I got into my stride in the cat position.
As I was recovering from an illness and on medication I had a hunch I'd find it hard to cum so I decided to up the ante and see how much pressure she could take.
Well, there was no embargo on my thrusting so I pounded her for all I was worth for a good 10 minutes or so while she encouraged me with the only 2 words of English she knew: "super" and "fucking".
Then I eased off, dragged her up on her knees and went back to work in "doggy" style while still buried in her ass.
So after another 10 minutes approx in this position I knew the game was up and no climax would occur so I eased out and thanked her for a "super" ride.
I should have known that this would be unsatisfactory to any self-respecting Brazilian lady and she set about me with her mouth and hands (this time with no wipes!) for what seemed like an eternity before I gave up the ghost.
We were well over an hour at this stage so full marks to her for professional pride and determination not to let me leave before the job was done.
And as a consolation she donated her stockings to me as a souvenir!
All in all, a nice lady in her 30s with little or no English or German. Better looking than her photos displayed outside her room but a trifle too obsessed with oral hygiene to get totally relaxed with.
Schattenhof (Tabaris) is on VillacherStrasse, approx half way between the city centre and university.
On the way out of town the following morning, popped into the Oase LaufHaus on St Ruprechter Strasse. Just around the corner from the train station.
[url]http://klagenfurt.oasex.at/content.php?categorie=start&module=girl[/url]
This is a far more basic affair but in a convenient location for anyone just passing through Klagenfurt.
Had a chat with Raffaela from Poland who was in room 7 or 8.
[url]http://klagenfurt.oasex.at/content.php?categorie=girls&module=girl&girl_id=563217&image_nr=12943[/url]
Very attractive, friendly and outgoing blonde girl in mid-20s from the south of Poland. Got a very good feeling from her and regret not having the time to linger and explore. Also called on pretty Karina from Romania who was packing her belongings as her latest spell was finishing at 4pm and she was heading back home for a break. Also gave out good signals.
Prices at €90 for half-hour and €160 for the full hour.
FOOTNOTE. After I left Schattenhof on the Saturday night I headed for the town and stopped off in the first bar I came to. Here I encountered a very attractive and compatible Carinthian lady of approximately my own vintage who I liberated from her circle of friends and ended up in her apartment for the night. All I could think of afterwards was what on earth would she have thought if she could have seen me labouring away an hour earlier in Vanessa's boudoir.
Them's the breaks, folks.
VG,
Молодец! An excellent report from an intrepid adventurer. Seems to me 170 Euro is a little pricey (but then, I am only a poor American). In any event, it sounds like you certainly got your money's worth from Vanessa.
Looking forward to reading about more of your adventures.
BTW - do always bring your bicycle?
[QUOTE=Stravinsky; 1149733]VG,
&1052; &1086; &1083; &1086; &1076; &1077; &1094; ! An excellent report from an intrepid adventurer. Seems to me 170 Euro is a little pricey (but then, I am only a poor American). In any event, it sounds like you certainly got your money's worth from Vanessa.
Looking forward to reading about more of your adventures.
BTW. Do always bring your bicycle? [/QUOTE]Strav,
&1052; &1086; &1083; &1086; &1076; &1077; &1094; yourself!
To explain the €170: the price for an hour was 160E plus 10E because my time was going to bring me past 23. 00.
So for the same price I got the Greek and DATY thrown in.
And she was no clockwatcher. Once the money was paid over, I was the last of the night and she wasn't really bothered how long I stayed.
Not cheap I agree but in places like KF the prices tend to be uniform across the limited amount of outlets.
(In Wien the LH price per hour is usually €120).
I've just posted up my report from Graz which you may enjoy although I didn't participate as it turned out.
(Was on anti-biotics and feeling low in energy).
BTW, if I got my money's worth it was uptown later where I went home with a very fine local.
Returning in a few weeks and no RLDs this time!
VG.
PS: Had to rent out a bicycle on this occasion. You may recall I allowed Bez Bezarra of this parish to shelter in my Ukrainian mansion last summer. His way of thanking me was to abscond with 4 of my personal female retinue, a treasured 35 year old collection of Kazakh pornography and my bicycle.
So now I'm reduced to renting.
[QUOTE=Gergiev; 1150047]PS: Had to rent out a bicycle on this occasion. You may recall I allowed Bez Bezarra of this parish to shelter in my Ukrainian mansion last summer. His way of thanking me was to abscond with 4 of my personal female retinue, a treasured 35 year old collection of Kazakh pornography and my bicycle.
So now I'm reduced to renting. [/QUOTE]Well, there you have it. . . Bez moves in and the neighborhood goes to hell.
Kazakh porn? Does that have something involving a yak?
I'm sorry to hear you are not feeling well. I know it would be very frustrating for me to spend the entire evening [i]interviewing[/i] Dyeffki. Hopefully, you will be back to your old self for the next trip. Graz does sound like a worthwhile place to visit, nonetheless.
[QUOTE=Stravinsky; 1150246]Well, there you have it. . . Bez moves in and the neighborhood goes to hell.
Kazakh porn? Does that have something involving a yak?
I'm sorry to hear you are not feeling well. I know it would be very frustrating for me to spend the entire evening [i]interviewing[/i] Dyeffki. Hopefully, you will be back to your old self for the next trip. Graz does sound like a worthwhile place to visit, nonetheless. [/QUOTE]Cheers, Strav.
Feeling much better now as I prepare for return to Klagenfurt in the near future.
Graz is indeed a very interesting city and wasn't really that much trouble doing the rounds at dusk and engaging in a few conferences here and there.
Beats the hell out of lying in bed in accommodation and watching TV, that's for sure!
Til soon,
VG.
Ciao everyone.
I'll be visiting Andiamo in mid July, on the return way from a motorbike tour in Austria with a couple of friends.
Any recent report on the place?
Never been there but I visited many german fkks so far.
I would be particularly interested in a comparison with places like Artemis, Palace, Oase or similar, although I think Andiamo is very similar.
Thanks for any info.
Kimino
FKK Andiamo.
[url]http://www.andiamo.at/[/url]
Address: Andiamo · Technologieparkstr. 5 · A 9500 Villach.
Open from 12:00 to 2:00 (closes at 4:00 on Fr and sat)
Our trip:
Me and my friend, we decided to make a motorbike tour towards Austria, we crossed the dolomites from Milano and arrived at Villach around 4pm, checked in at the hotel (there's a bunch) and by 4:30 we where at the Fkk. Stayed there until 2am. The next day another motorbike trip in the area then returned at Andiamo around 4pm and stayed there until 3am. Next day, back to Milano via the autobahn, under heavy rain. A memorable trip under every aspect.
Basic info kit:
Entrance: 85 euro.
30 min. 70 Euro.
60 min. 140 Euro.
Cim. 50 euro.
Anal. 100 euro.
Lingerie day: none. But frequent theme parties on saturdays.
Facilities:
Talking about facilities, Andiamo is probably the best and more elegant fkk club I visited until now.
The place is divided on two floors, in the upper one the rooms and a waiting area in case the rooms are all busy, in the lower floor all the rest.
The main area has a huge bar in the middle with seats around it and many sofas and similar furniture all around the place. There's many different options for seating or lying around. On your own, in couple or in groups of friends you can always find a perfect area where to stay.
Very comfortable and nice to see, during the evening candles are lit and laid around everywhere. Really cool atmosphere.
A big internal swimming pool, a jacuzzi, all kinds of saunas etc. Towels available all the time, a kino.
Outside other sofas, a big swimming pool, beds, a couple of huts that I didn't visit.
When you enter the club you are given a bracelet with a magnetic key that will open both your locker (for clothes) and a small safe in a different area, where you keep money, phones etc. Robe and slippers.
Locker room is fine, same as toilets, shower room (a bit slippery) etc.
You have free wifi at the reception area. Cool.
The rooms are nice and all have both a sink and a shower. Girls usually shower also when they enter the room with you.
Lights can be dimmed as usual, music is not present or very low.
One defect is in the lighting system, the lights are on the ceiling and opposite to the bed, this means that if you are lying on the bed on your back getting a BJ you won't see the girls face so well. It's a detail, but it did annoy me slightly. Obviously, you change position a bit.
As usual, there's mirrors and all the rest.
Another problem related to the rooms is the lack of it, there's maybe 15/20 rooms (just an estimate) but even if we where there on th / fr it happened a couple of times I had to wait 10/15 minutes for a room. Saturdays are crazy there, talking about 450 customers last Saturday, so sometimes the queue might be quite long.
THere's also a suite. To have access to it you pay 190 euros for one hour and you get a champagne bottle.
The bar:
You get 2 free beers (I think) and all the soft drinks you want. Alcoholics and redbulls you pay when you leave. You are asked for the magnetic key every time you order.
Prices are very reasonable. The second day I got 3 whiskies ad a redbull and paid 19 euros. When you ask for a whisky or similar you don't get a joke in a plastic glass A La Artemis, but you are served a decent portion in a real glass.
The customers:
Andiamo is just 10/20 km from the italian border. That part of Italy is kind of wealthy, and for sure culturally very different from the south. I estimate 90% of the customers where italian, saw a couple of russians and some nordic guys.
The general attitude of the people was extremely educated, discrete and not noisy, people having fun but not the kind of crap I saw in a few occasions at Artemis where italians (from different areas) acted like complete AHs. Anyways.
The staff speaks german, some italian and some english, same for most of the girls.
Lineup:
50/60 girls, all east europeans except for a couple of black girls, a colombian, a greek and maybe a few others.
For the rest I'd say 60% Romanian. 15% Hungarian. 15% bulgarian and a 10% (maybe less) made up of Polish and other nationalities.
The bar in the main room is very very big with seats all around it, when you enter the room and you face the bar, all Hungarians are seated at your left side, all bulgarians on the right side, all romanians around the rest of bar. They have their own territory and I was told it's been like this for a while. Really curious.
All girls (except rare cases) are in the 20/28 years of age, typical east europeans. All very good looking but few complete stunners for my tastes. Still, I sessioned with 7 girls and still have a long list of other I would love to try.
Very few girls are pushy, all discrete in their approach.
Sessions:
There's no point in giving out names without detailed physical descriptions, in general quite a few sessions I found to be mediocre, a bit mechanic, but this was probably because I was seen as newbie and chose the girls without much criteria. But two girls I liked a lot.
The first one, Myra, Hungarian probably 19. She just came in (two weeks before) speaking no english or italian, just left school and never worked in an fkk (I managed to understand). Beautiful, very tall, dark hair, kind of skinny, extremely sexy although almost embarrassing for how young she looked. Awesome session, one of the few where I had Cim.
Then a Polish girl, the only one I repeated. Julia. The second session was much better than the first we had, almost GFE. Was the last session there.
Bottom line (s) :
I'll be back for sure sometime. The only option for me it's driving, but it's quite far (luckily) and there's not many reasons for me to go to Villach.
If you happen to be in the area, I suggest a visit. Possibly during weekdays.
Kimino
Hello. I was quite frequently in the VIP and before than Josefine. My favorite was a Romanian named Marinela. This was 2005-2007, and now I am back in Vienna but cannot find her. She was so hot! Maybe some of you remember her then, and better, could tell me where she is now? Thanks!
If you happen to stay at the spa & hotel in Loipersdorf in Styria [url]http://www.loipersdorfhotel.com/en/home/[/url] Which is not too far from Graz, I recommend you go to a Laufhaus about 10 min away by car. It is called Lady O its website is [url]http://www.ladyo.eu/Laufhaus-Steiermark-Damen[/url] It is just off the E66. You have to get off the main road and drive past a gas station and turn right into a small street that takes you back as if to the highway. The Laufhaus advertises with big signs as you drive off the main road which is how I noticed it. There is outdoor parking and it's very discreet. The laufhaus is on two floors with some 20 odd rooms where the girls are. If the girls are in available they have a sign on the door. Both downstairs and upstairs, in the hallway there is a billboard with photos of all the girls. From memory 3 offered OWO and 3 offered A-levels. I chose a 33 Romanian called Aura. Her photo is on the website and is accurate. She is friendly. Speaks English. Her prices are 60 for 30 min. 100 for 45 and 130 for one hour. I chose the 45 min option. The room has its own shower. I stripped down and headed that way. She joined me and also cleaned herself up giving me kisses as she washed my back and took time to clean my cock. We toweled off and went to bed which is surrounded by mirrors. She is very friendly, lots of kisses, we started in 69 (CBJ) then she mounted me. She is quite loud which is exciting. After a few minutes we switched to doggy and finaly finished in missionary with her holding me tight and giving gentle kisses. She is experienced but treats you as a friend. She has been in the country for four years and has only worked in that Laufhaus. A nice experience and considering that you are in the countryside, a nice discovery.
Hello, everybody, I'm staying in Innsbruck for a week and I was wondering if anyone could tell me where is the best place to have fun. Are there any FKK around here? Thank you for your help. It is much appreciated!
In Schwaz (about 15-20 km from Innsbruck) there is a club called La Rose, I was about a week ago with Flavia, highly recommend.
Hey guys!
Will be in Innsbruck for a while, and been reading the forum to check out the options.
Would love to try a full service FKK club, but doesn't seem like there are any close by? Thinking of going to Munich over the weekend to check out Colosseum, and maybe some of the local scene although it seems the slowest of the German big cities! .
Anything exciting / must do in and around Innsbruck? La Rose sounds like a good option. What is the atmosphere like? Friendly? The girls and service is friendly / GFE?
Independent girls seem really expensive! EUR 200+?
Thanks! Any advice / contacts / tips are much appreciated. Please PM me.
[QUOTE=Kimino; 1179529]FKK Andiamo.
[url]http://www.andiamo.at/[/url]
Address: Andiamo · Technologieparkstr. 5 · A 9500 Villach.
Open from 12:00 to 2:00 (closes at 4:00 on Fr and sat) [/QUOTE]Thanks to this excellent report I made it to FKK Andiamo last Saturday night. The place was spot on as described in Kimino's post.
You do get 2 free beers with your entrance fee. I agree that if, given the choice, do not go there on a Saturday night. The ratio of punters to girls is against you. I noticed that guys seemed to be taking numbers for the hottest girls because the moment these girls finished one session, they were at it again. I caught one girl between sessions (towels in her arms) and she told me that she would love to session with me but there were 2 guys already waiting for her.
I avoided the Romanians and had one session with a Latin American girl named Barbara (or something like that) , and one with a Slovekia girl named Michelle. Both sessions were better than average. I went for CIM with the first girl since her oral skills were very good. The Slovekia girl was unusually tight for an FKK girl or she had excellent muscle control. There was supposed to be one Iranian girl working there that I wanted to find but could not. I did not see any black girls either.
My only complaint were the rooms. There are not enough (long waits) and they are pretty basic compared with the clubs in Frankfurt. They need more mirrors on the walls and ceilings.
Just my POV.
OAH
Off the A1 motorway between Linz and Wien, there is a night club called club splash, it is in Krems which appears to be next to Ybbs off exit 25. Does anybody have any feedback on this club? [url]http://www.clubsplash.at/nachtclub/krems/[/url] You see it off the A1 motorway.
In St Valentin, off the A1 motorway is Night Club Valentin. Its website is: [url]http://www.nightclub-valentin.at/content.php?page_id=1[/url] There is a parking in front of the house. During the day there is one girl working there. In the evening there are 9 girls in total. They are all from either Slovakia, Hungary, Romania or Bulgaria, although there is one girl from Ghana. The girl I was with is tall and skinny with a tattoo on her right arm. She is in the photos on the bottom right corner. Photos are accurate. She claimed that she is 30 but I would put her closer to the 35 range. You go up to the door and ring the bell, the girl "in service" lets you in and explains the price structure. € 50 for 10 min, which is basicaly a HJ and CBJ, € 60 for 20 min which is a "quickie" and € 80 for 30 min which is the option I took. She wrote down the time of me coming in and invited me to the room. It has mirrors, a sauna, and a shower and a double bed. We both got undressed. I took a shower. She then invited me to bed and sat next to me and started to touch my body and then gently started to massage my cock. The handjob got my "friend" going, she was not rushed, waited until I was hard enough to put on a condom. She then started to suck me off. Using hands, mouth, tongue. A very good CBJ. She was making sure my cock was nice and wet. She did this for a good 5-7 min. I had to stop her and tell her to mount me. Which she did. No kissing but she rode me holding me very close and moving her hips hard against my cock until I came. She held me and then helped me get cleaned up. She asked if I wanted a shower, she then took one herself. A good place to stop on the way. I would go back.
I plan to try the following two laufhauser's in Wels next time I am in the neighbourhood. Any feedback would be appreciated.
[url]http://www.laufhauswels.com/[/url]
[url]http://www.arndtstrasse24.at/studios.html[/url]
Hi,
There is a new FKK Club in Innsbruck (near Shopping Center DEZ) open 12. 07. 2012. Very friendly, very nice interieur. Entrance € 80- including 2 beers and non-alkoholic Drink and Buffet. Girls cost 65- half houer. Includet also Sauna, Jacuzzi ecc.
Closed to the FKK is the VIP Club (same house) , Entrance 100- including all Drinks and Gourmet-Dinner. Very nice and super ambience. Girls costs 200- (entrance included) for half houer and € 300- (entrance includet) for one hour.
I am going to a small village in the alps to ski, Ischgl Austria. There appear to be several bad table dance places. Are there any escorts? Any brothels? Any massage parlours? Thanks for any help in advance.
Mass Monger
I went to the erotikmassagen LaJoya more or less four months ago.
The place is extremely clean, elegant and luxurious. It is a bit far from the train station line, close to the highway exit A12 Innsbruck-Ost and also not so far from the FKK CircoloPassion.
You can choose different types of massage: I tried the NURU massage, my favorite. Damage: 140 euros for 1 hour, with a beautiful blonde masseuse called Nina. One of the most beautiful nuru massage I've ever done (with HE) , the girl was very professional and nice.
[url]http://www.lajoya.at/erotikmassagen_innsbruck/index.html[/url]
Reading on the website I noticed that there is also the possibility to book a deluxe massage, with an hour and a half of massage, a bottle of champagne and hot tub.
The place is not exactly cheap, but the service is excellent and also the variety of massages seemed to me wide enough.
I have been reading the boards for a long time, but never found the time to post until now. But my recent visit to LaJoya was such that I figured it is time to contribute.
Upon reading the recent report I decided to pay La Joya a visit on short notice this past Friday. I picked the Nuru massage with a local girl and must admit it was one of the most pleasant hour I spent. The club is well appointed, clean and a delight to visit. The service was great and I left a happy camper. If the price is justified as the surroundings are so pleasant and the service is outstanding. Definitely an upscale experience. If you need a hardcore experience, this is not for you, but if you enjoy being papered and stimulated this will be a treat.
[QUOTE=Timer1963; 1382988]I have been reading the boards for a long time, but never found the time to post until now. But my recent visit to LaJoya was such that I figured it is time to contribute.
Upon reading the recent report I decided to pay La Joya a visit on short notice this past Friday. I picked the Nuru massage with a local girl and must admit it was one of the most pleasant hour I spent. The club is well appointed, clean and a delight to visit. The service was great and I left a happy camper. If the price is justified as the surroundings are so pleasant and the service is outstanding. Definitely an upscale experience. If you need a hardcore experience, this is not for you, but if you enjoy being papered and stimulated this will be a treat.[/QUOTE]When you wrote: "Nuru Massage with a local girl", you're talking about Nina, I guess. A cute, blonde and very professional masseuse. Highly recommended.
Was in LaVilla Imst, had a very good time with Ivana. Nice rooms and atmophere. 10. 12 girls.
Was on autobahn A2 just past Graz, recently, heading east (just before a sign that stated 138km to Wein) towards Wien where I took the exit where there was a large Shell sign and corresponding petrol station to the right and a large water tower on the other side of the autobahn with a name of a town I did not ascertain.
Took this exit and turned right and a quick right again into a small "access" road to a Eurospar petrol station.
Along this road, to the left, was an "erotik night club" with, I perceived, almost / actually attached a "hot sheet" hotel / motel which seemed "over signed" with signs that seemed more to indicate taping the activities that went on the rooms other than for security purposes.
My perception was the hotel's / motel's primary function was a place to conveniently / privately bring "take away" from the erotik night club.
Thank you!
I am going to be in Bregenz for a couple of days. Are there any escorts? Brothels? FKK?
Thanks for any help in advance.
[QUOTE=Mass Monger; 1364451]I am going to a small village in the alps to ski, Ischgl Austria. There appear to be several bad table dance places. Are there any escorts? Any brothels? Any massage parlours? Thanks for any help in advance.
Mass Monger[/QUOTE]You are heading to the party capital of the alps! With the heavy Russian visitor numbers these things are around. MPs will only be veggie, but in the ski season escorts should be available. I know someone who works there, can make a discreet inquiry, then PM you the details
Anyone in or around Innsbruck? I just moved here, would be great to meet someone local with knowledge of the area. We could also get drinks and try and pull some real women. The girls in the city are pretty hot.
[QUOTE=FunLover100;1489076]Anyone in or around Innsbruck? I just moved here, would be great to meet someone local with knowledge of the area. We could also get drinks and try and pull some real women. The girls in the city are pretty hot.[/QUOTE]Sent you a PM
work brought me to innsbruck in late september, and i'm glad it gave me the chance to try a place that has not gotten much attention on the forum, circolo passion. while i'm not sure it puts austrian tirol on the map as a destination for sex tourism, this club has added a good mongering option to a city that's a prime tourist destination in its own right. besides circolo passion i also considered innsbruck's other options, which pre-dated cp's opening. i ruled out a visit to casa bianca due to its insane prices (130 euros per half hour with a girl, plus 100 euros 'room rental', on top of a 70 euro entry-drinks-food charge).
and on the morning of my departure from innsbruck i did stop into the grand dame of the innsbruck brothel scene, maxim haida at sudbahnstrasse 20 near the train station. once inside this nondescript building i paid the 3 euros entry charge and checked out the traditional cathouse interior decoration. that and the free crackers were more interesting than the handful of unattractive, chunky, older women who presented themselves in the selection room. there actually was one curvy, long haired brunette (in her 30s?) who looked pretty good, but i passed on her due to a lack of time and a lack of clarity about pricing (possibly 40 euros for half an hour and extras up for negotiation, my german failed me as i tried to figure it out). but circolo passion was my planned destination all along, and where i did spend my two evenings in town.
i arrived in the evening by train from munich, and innsbruck is so compact and easy to manage that i was checked into my hotel near the old city at 8:30 and by 8:45 a taxi had dropped me off at circolo passion. it's in a part of the city that you can imagine was farmland in the not too distant past, with a number of newly-built malls and shopping centers. my english-speaking driver was well aware of the place, and asked if i wanted the all-alcohol inclusive but more expensive vip club, or the saunaclub. i had him drop me off at the saunaclub entrance and immediately found myself immersed in ultra-modern style. with abstract sculptures, exposed concrete construction, bright green detailing, and nouveau-shag carpeting, this was no arabian nights or ancient roman fantasy club.
they pull the modern style off in an efficient but comfortable way. after reception (where i paid my 80 euros entry fee) a sliding frosted glass door opens automatically to the changing room, with large dark wooden lockers that close and open by pressing your smart key-fob on the button (i am always paranoid about whether this style of locker will close properly, though i have never had a problem). one passes the toilets and showers on the way to the main, two-story high club room. on three sides padded benches line the walls, surrounding a central bar. on one end of the room are two banks of deeper, built-in couches more suitable for cuddling up with the girls. the bank of couches along the back wall are ideal for getting away from the action around the bar, and offer pretty good sightlines for surveying the whole room, though there are some blind-spots, like a frosted glass partition blocking the closest couches below.
the dining room is entered through glass doors on one side, and has a cold salads area and a warm buffet. on the two nights i visited the food was quite good and available until nearly closing time. on the first night, they were having an oktoberfest theme night but the dinner was one of the few signs of anything special going on, with nice wursts, dumplings, loin of pork, and pretzels on offer alongside the soups, salads, and fresh bread. the next night a mixed grill with baked potatoes was the fare. beer on tap was free on the night of my first visit, but even the next night, for some reason, the barkeeper was required to take my key and register my locker number anytime i ordered anything, even water!
a set of concrete stairs on the side of the main room leads upstairs to the wellness area complete with whirlpool, sauna, bio-sauna, steamroom, solarium bed and small shower area. about half of the bedrooms are on this level, along with the outdoor terrace. brisk september nights are probably not the ideal time for this area, though it must be rather nice in the sunshine and some guests were enjoying the outdoor hot tub. back on the ground floor, a hallway behind the stairway leads to a set of bedrooms and the kino.
during the back-to-back nights i attended i got together with a mix of blonde and brunette romanians, but the highlights were the club's two hungarians. beyond this i wasn't able to identify any other nationalities, so regrettably there were no latinas and to my great disappointment, no black women. this pattern extended (for the most part) to my visits to vienna's goldentime on the following two days. at the german fkks and saunaclubs i'm always on the lookout for a black girl as my first preference followed closely by the latinas, so the austrian clubs forced me to change my hunting approach this trip. that said, i ended up with some fine results at circolo passion.
on my first night i had a lot to feast my eyes on, as thursdays (along with tuesdays and wednesdays) are fkk days at circolo passion; as their website says, on those days 'we have nothing to hide. our sexy girls, just as god created them. ' even on friday night, however, plenty of girls went topless, and on fkk thursday not all girls were fully nude. despite an oktoberfest theme day on thursday and the fkk attraction, attendance was not so large, though much larger on friday. on the nights i visited there was a substantial italian contingent (as the club's name would suggest) , as well as a good number of japanese and other asian guests, whom i often noticed returning from sessions in something like ten minutes.
soon after i arrived on my first night's visit i took some time to find a good seat, as at the bar i really felt the eyes of some hungry girls zeroing in on me, since there was not a large crowd of men at 9pm and i was fresh meat. when i relocated to the benches along the wall i noticed a brunette girl who looked a lot like a cute girl who used to work with me at my job. the chance to bone my ex-coworker's lookalike was too much to pass up, so i went over to her. suzanne was a pale skinned, small breasted romanian with a slender body that somehow carried a gorgeous curvy ass, one of the best in the club. she led me upstairs to a room past the wellness facilities. things began with her washing me in the shower in the room (this seems to be standard in this club). she asked for an extra 20 euros for kissing which i declined, but she was still friendly and it was a pretty good half-hour session (those cost 60 euros here) , though not comparable to my later ones.
my other romanian that first night was a hot, slender blonde who i sometimes saw kissing a colleague in attempting to advertise a threesome. unfortunately, laura's performance during my session with her was lackluster, so i rebuffed the threesome peddling the next night (despite the efforts of her partner, a good saleswoman). it's not that laura didn't give enough effort in the room, but there was no spark or passion, too much like she was performing routine work. what i did appreciate was her shaved pussy, which was one of the most beautiful i have ever seen or licked.
my second blonde romanian, with whom i closed out my visit the following night, was better but in our early interactions there were worrying signs. with her bikini and wavy blonde hair, amalia could have passed for a california girl and as soon as i saw her i decided my visit would not be complete without a session with her. i was also attracted by her popularity with other guests, including one pair of younger guys who amalia later told me demonstrated their bisexuality during their threesome with her. amalia eventually became available but i was too slow to pull the trigger, as she disappeared to the vip club, which happened with a number of the girls, especially as the crowd on the saunaclub side thinned as it got later on saturday night.
when amalia resurfaced at around 2am i made sure to go right up to her to propose a session. her response was affirmative without being warm, and when she suggested a hot tub session instead of the room i had my doubts. i opted for the room and right away she asked me to buy her a vodka, another bad sign, though she did not make a fuss when i declined. i did upgrade to some kissing for 20 euros which was worthwhile, and things further improved as i loosened her up with some daty. the sex in a few positions was fun, as i enjoyed her curvy body and good-sized boobs. she rode me with vigor and i turned her onto her stomach for flat doggy and pumped her until i came. so despite the initial indications i was able to close out circolo passion with a good session.
but as i mentioned above, the romanians paled in comparison to the hungarians at the club. i had my eye on a tall, thin woman on my first visit on thursday night but she was usually with other guys. i had pegged her for a latina, with her olive skin and wild black hair, as well as the wiggle in her walk. her body type was not one i usually go for, skinnier that i prefer and facially just a little too gaunt, but she had a spark that attracted me. on friday, soon after i arrived after 8pm, i noticed her lying on one of the couches near the bar and sat beside her. that's when i learned that clarissa was the other hungarian whom lilly (the hungarian girl i met thursday, more on her below) had told me about.
after an engaging talk i agreed to clarissa's invitation to go to the kino, where we spent an hour and a half. we had the place to ourselves, and lay a towel and my robe on the upper platform of the stepped seating. we lay there and kissed passionately for quite a while, until we traded some oral sex with each other before joining together in a long, hot sixty-nine. we had a couple of onlookers checking out our performance from time to time, which was fine with me; being up on the top platform permitted the voyeuristic rush without the sense of someone looking over your shoulder (or other body parts).
clarissa did put on a show that i would have liked to watch from any vantage point, but especially from on my back: she rode me fiercely, moving her athletic body on me with lots of energy. when i had her turn around she draped her lanky frame against me, and we bucked rhythmically together as i caressed the nipples of her small breasts. i got really turned on by the way she looked at me with an open-mouth gasp as i penetrated her from on above and pounded her in missionary. that's how i finished, collapsing to the mattress and embracing clarissa as we lay there soaked in sweat. it had been a great session, and at an hour and a half it was the longest stretch i ever spent in a kino. when clarissa and i went to the locker room and i handed her 180 euros, she told me that for sessions in the kino there was a 30 euro surcharge, the first time i had ever heard of this concept, but she settled for an even 200 euros for the session, which i felt was money very well spent.
but my first hungarian at circolo passion was really the one to write home about. a couple of hours into my first night's visit i spotted a petite redhead stroll over to one of the side benches near the bar. i had a feeling she was going to be the highlight of my visit, and my prediction was to come true.
i went over to sit next to her, and kiddingly scolded her for wearing a bra and panties on fkk night. lilly explained that earlier in the day the girls had worn the traditional bavarian style dirndl outfit for the club's oktoberfest activities, and she had never bothered to remove what she was wearing underneath. i was pleased when i learned lilly was hungarian due to past successes with that nation's women, but it was this 22-year old's cute look that really got me excited. i liked her pert body and adorable face, accentuated by the marilyn-monroe-style mole on her cheek. she was also a sharp cookie and fun to talk with, which also turns me on.
usually when kissing is ruled out of an fkk session i am either turned completely off, or at the very least my sexual edge is dulled a bit by having to restrain this natural instinct for me. with lilly things were different. kissing was not on lilly's menu, but not withheld for payment as a revenue-generating extra. this went unspoken; instead she signaled this as if she were playing hard to get, almost like we were on a high school first date. rather than being frustrating, the way she teased me got me very aroused. this started while she soaped me up in the shower prior to our getting into bed, as she brought her face right up close to mine, her lips a millimeter away from my own, before pulling away with a wicked smile. she tantalized me like this throughout our session that night and when we reunited the following evening. we played a similar game when i rubbed the head of my cock over her pussy lips and hinted at penetrating her bareback, pulling back just as she did the same.
on both nights we settled into leisurely hour-long sessions, which usually does not happen when kissing is absent. even without that, the oral component was strong, me nuzzling her neck and shoulders, and her giving me spine-tingling catbaths up and down my body. i took my time applying my own tongue to her pussy, getting my face covered in juice in the process as she squirmed and shook, and she reciprocated with exquisite blow jobs, wrapping her lips on my cock while giving me a devlish look.
lilly's petite frame was tailor made for fucking in various positions. she rode me well, and i was enthralled by her teenie looks as i looked up at this little red (haired) riding hood's innocent yet naughty face. with small girls i usually cum with them on top, but the finish i remember most was in her pussy in doggy-style; lilly was small but she had a nice ass and knew how to move it. sexy and playful but classy, lilly is one reason, but not the only one, i would return to circolo passion. innsbruck is such a great town that i would be happy to return to enjoy its alpine wonders in combination with those at cp, and might consider it for part of a future bavaria-tirol saunaclub tour.
I been at CP two weeks ago,
The place is nice but I don't agree with their policy that girls can't go to disturb customers but the customers must to go to the ladies.
Entry fee 80€
Girl 60€ for 30 mintues including BBBJ, DATY, FS.
Extra: FK 20€, CIM 50€, COB 30€, anal 100€
I tried:
Evelyn a blond woman from Czech Republic, nice slim body with a silicon boobs.
Her performance was not satisfactory because shortly participatory.
Not recommended.
Eva a woman with epic boobs from Romania, great perfomance BBBJ and fuck session was epic.
Highly recommended.
Naomi a black panter from Jamaica, the preliminaries was fantastic great BBBJ, body to body massage with oil, DATY. 69, ecc.
But FS was very disappointing because in all positions she told me that my cock was hurting her pussy. And this is so strange, because my cock is a normal size. Lazy for the umpteenth fuck I think.
Hi guys,
Does anyone have experiences with the new club Wellcum near Villach? As it is very close to Italy, maybe the same situation like Andiamo that they are focussed to Italian customers?
How is the lineup?
[QUOTE=AcroFlyer; 1533996]Hi guys,
Does anyone have experiences with the new club Wellcum near Villach? As it is very close to Italy, maybe the same situation like Andiamo that they are focussed to Italian customers?
How is the lineup?[/QUOTE]I never been in Wellcum, and been once at Andiamo.
Friends of mine go regular to Wellcum.
Very nice and cool place, more good then Andiamo.
Lineup is good, and also the average of performance are good.
99% of their customer is Italian, from all Italy.
From Tarvisio border to Wellcum is just 5min by car.
Who can compare Austria to Frankfurt? Quantity? Quality? Price just a little higher?
Are these the same type of girls I would meet in Oase? Or Globe in Zürich?
Young, willing pretty natural good attitude? Or are they seasoned and siliconized like in Artemis.
Please elaborate.
Normally I go to the German FKK clubs around Frankfurt and Stuttgart but I had heard some good things from people there about Wellcum ([url]http://wellcum.at/[/url]) so I thought to give it a shot.
The club is quite new and everything is in very good condition. Even in the bright light of day the interior looks stylish and nice.
Entrance is 79 Euro.
Standard 30 min with a girl is 70 Euro.
Most extras like CIM are 50.
The line-up was very good. Especially if you like young and thin. 90% passed my boner test. Mostly Romanians and Bulgarians. Some others. Mostly brunettes but with a few blonds.
All the girls I talked to and sessioned with were very friendly and gave a good performance. I didn't get any bad attitude, or sharkyness at all.
I found the facilities and food to be quite good.
The rooms are nice but I didn't find any with mirrors.
I went on a Saturday and there was a good balance of guys and girls and it was by no means overcrowded.
There is an attached hotel for 81 / night, including breakfast. The rooms are nice enough but a bit over priced. More like a 50 euro room. Very convenient though and clean / large / new. Wifi works in the lobby but not in the rooms.
I'll definitely be coming back.
Can someone tell me are the girls nude all the time in FKK Andiamo and Wellcum, similar to Goldentime Wien? Can you someone compare? Do you have to pay for the highway in Italy or Austria, similar to vignetta in Slovenia?
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[QUOTE=Lordlord;1569623]Can someone tell me are the girls nude all the time in FKK Andiamo and Wellcum, similar to Goldentime Wien? Can you someone compare? Do you have to pay for the highway in Italy or Austria, similar to vignetta in Slovenia?[/QUOTE]In Andiamo the girls are definitely naked similar to GT. Don't know if it like that in Wellcum but I would assume it is. All the best places have that policy.
For using the highways you absolutely need to buy a "Vignette" which you can get at any gas station.
[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;1591459]In Andiamo the girls are definitely naked similar to GT. Don't know if it like that in Wellcum but I would assume it is. All the best places have that policy.
[/QUOTE]At Wellcum, girls are not completely naked.
Another place in Austria, like Circolo Passion in Innsbruck they are naked on Wednesday and Thursday.
At Casa Carintia in Fledkirchen girls are always naked except Wednesday.
About the new law on the taxation of prostitutes in Austria, the clubs will have to adjust the rates and methods of payment.
The new rules at Wellcum is:
Entry Fee: 49€.
First room: still 70€ for the lady + 35€ for the room.
After the first room, you will receive a bracelet to show that you have already paid the fee of 35€.
All other room will cost always 70€ for 30 min.
[QUOTE=ChristianG;1593532]About the new law on the taxation of prostitutes in Austria, the clubs will have to adjust the rates and methods of payment.
The new rules at Wellcum is:
Entry Fee: 49.
First room: still 70 for the lady + 35 for the room.
After the first room, you will receive a bracelet to show that you have already paid the fee of 35.
All other room will cost always 70 for 30 min.[/QUOTE]Hi Christian G. Are you sure of what you write? Because some of my friends told me that the 35€ fee is paied by the girls to the establishment as dayly rental amount. Please let me know cause I would like to try it. Bye.
I have known that Wellcum have change owners. Anyone know if now some days of the week the girls are fully naked?
I have to decide between L'Andiamo, Casa Carintia or Wellcum and I prefer club where the girls are naked or in topless.
I like slim and young girls, not MILF ecc.
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Hello,
I will be in Pfunds next week. Any good massage parlours in the area?
Hi Guys,
I'm thinking of doing a trip to Southern Austria in late June or July and I'm tempted to check out the clubs Wellcum and Andiamo. Both clubs are in the Villach region.
Would anyone have any recent experiences at either or both of these clubs and would be able to feed back on that or point me to a web link or forum that would have some updated field reports or a link to photos of the girls working there like a tagesplan? I'm particularly interested in details on the quality of the girls line up and if there would be a good ratio of stunners available. More so at Wellcum as I am more keen to try that club out versus Andiamo.
Having sampled the many delights in clubs like Globe Zurich, Goldentime Vienna and the big FKK clubs (Oase, Sharks, Artemis, Goldentime Bruggen, etc) in Germany, it would be refreshing to try something different and hopefully with the same level of quality in terms of optics and possibly service as well.
Any info would be much appreciated.
Howie.
Hello everybody,
I would be visiting Innsbruck on 21st June any suggestions would be appreciated.
Hi,
I was yesterday visiting at about 5 pm the club B10 [URL]http://www.b10.at/b10/[/URL].
Should have opened already and it was so but there was just one lady, looking eastern European, cup A which just offered me a "fast" service and told that I should come back at least after 6 pm to see more girls.
So I left. Half hour cost normally 100€, this weeks there is a reduction of 20€ to 80€ without extras.
[QUOTE=Gangaram;1731837]Hello everybody,
I would be visiting Innsbruck on 21st June any suggestions would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]Try Lady O -[URL]www.lady-o.at/[/URL] That the must- have- seen club in Innsbruck since many many years and a hot spot for all 1-2 mongers from northern Italy.
[QUOTE=Gangaram;1731837]Hello everybody,
I would be visiting Innsbruck on 21st June any suggestions would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]
I don't know anything about Lady O so can't / don't judge. But in Innsbruck you can find also a quite good FKK / Saunaclub as Circolo Passion (beautiful structure, girls so so and they don't approach) and nearby the top level / very exclusive and very pricey Casabianca gentlemen's club (similar to Babylon chain of clubs). Also there is a very basic very old style bordello like Maxim Haida near the train station.
All in all not THE best town and area in Austria for pay sex but a few good choices, of which Casabianca I hear should have the best looking ladies (and higher prices).
Hi guys,
I'm headed across the border to Austria in a few weeks. Thinking about giving Andiamo or Wellcum a try. Can someone tell me the bottom line of what I'm looking at paying for entry and say: An hour with a lady? Also. If someone knows a better option in Villach (other clubs or privats). Please let me know!
Thanks!
Here is the thread. Mainly discussions with every so often somebody posting a link to their report.
[URL]http://www.gnoccatravels.com/viaggiodellagnocca/2170/andiamo-a-villach-le-recensioni-sulle-ragazze-dell-andiamo[/URL]
I've heard it's 70 Euros per half HR. 50 for CIM, 100 for Anal. 85 Euros entry. Still not so clear on if that entry provides meals.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1894603]Here is the thread. Mainly discussions with every so often somebody posting a link to their report.
[URL]http://www.gnoccatravels.com/viaggiodellagnocca/2170/andiamo-a-villach-le-recensioni-sulle-ragazze-dell-andiamo[/URL]
I've heard it's 70 Euros per half HR. 50 for CIM, 100 for Anal. 85 Euros entry. Still not so clear on if that entry provides meals.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the Intel on that. I actually got an email from Wellcum. Like you said 85 to get in and 70 euros per half hour. The 85 does include non alcoholic drinks except red bull and gives you the use of just about the entire wellness center. It does also include 2 beers. I would imagine Andiamo is more or less the same.
[QUOTE=SteveInIta;1851849]Hi guys,
I'm headed across the border to Austria in a few weeks. Thinking about giving Andiamo or Wellcum a try. Can someone tell me the bottom line of what I'm looking at paying for entry and say: An hour with a lady? Also. If someone knows a better option in Villach (other clubs or privats). Please let me know!
Thanks![/QUOTE]A good option is Romerbad Casa Carintia in Feldkirchen about 20 minutes scenic drive from Villach.
I always had a good time there when I visited.
They have a package that will get you entrance, use of facilities and rooms, buffet food and drinks plus two 30 minutes sessions with the girls for only 130 euros which in my opinion is a real bargain.
The selection of girls is decent and there has always been 2-3 to my taste (tall, very slim with a pretty face).
How many girls at Wellcum and Andiamo?
Entry 85 € ? And 70 € ? /30 mn.
Thanks.
I have been in July for a long time ago in Babylon in Klagenfurt.
It's still amazing that Babylon captured the picturesque castle on the hillside. You see the luxurious castle more or less from all parts of Klagenfurt and Eastern Wörther See (lake).
At night the green Babylon-green-lights show you the way to the entrance.
Inside it is like an old castle. You can try a lot, but there will be always a bit of spooky chilliness in the rooms. However Babs know how to set up interior in a very high luxury way.
In summer the garden is open and the girls and guests are split between the two bars. For me a negative point as not all girls are lined up at one room.
But it was also very crowd and a lot of summer guests of Carinthia partied there only dressed with flip-flops, shirts and shorties.
The girlie-lineup changed from the past completely. As you had in former days only black-haired and -eyed Romanians there is now a mixture of more countries but only European.
I'd say they have been about 20 to 25 girls and I rate them 6 to 9 (10 the highest).
I got a nice Eastern girl with an incredible shape and long-longer-longest-legs.
Everything was fine and we fell in love. Well - for one hour.
Price is still 400 per hour.
I heard about FKK Römerbad in Klagenfurt. As an alternative if you don't want to spend so much money. Will test next time.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1917854]How many girls at Wellcum and Andiamo?
Entry 85 ? And 70 ? /30 mn.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Yes to the rates. A lot of girls in both clubs as it is summer time and therefore high season and the climax of the year. I estimate between 70 and 90 girls in Wellcum, a bit less in Andiamo.
[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;1919706]Yes to the rates. A lot of girls in both clubs as it is summer time and therefore high season and the climax of the year. I estimate between 70 and 90 girls in Wellcum, a bit less in Andiamo.[/QUOTE]So I will visit when I will be in Frioul Venezia.
Thanks.
Discovery of an Italian FKK on the other side of border, close to Tarvisio. Wellcum is a beautiful club in the middle of Carinthians mountains, not far from my beloved Dolomiti, but located in Austria because forbidden in Italy. Same for Andiamo in Villach, to visit soon. Wellcum have also hotel, rooms are for 90 € for single, small garden with outside swimming pool, wellness with only 1 jacuzzi. Good foods for diner, good drinks, 2 free beers or white sparkle wine in entry 85. Girls are for 70/30 mn, out of extra. On this Thursday night, about 40/50 girls, all speaking Italian, everything is written in Italian. I can t say casting is not good, but not my type for look, too much make up and silicon for me, not natural enough looks. Blond Ivana. Ro is pretty and friendly, but too big silicons, but I had enjoyable time with small, dark blond, Natali, claiming to be Hungarian, nice, smiling, pretty girl. Club closed at 1. 30 am on this Thursday night and was quite empty after 11 pm.
So, after a 3 days tour in Italian, Austrian border, FKK Wellcum on Thursday and Saturday for FerrAgosto party, and Andiamo on Friday. Entry is 85 for both, same than Globe. Ch, but you can pay with credit card in Austria, without being charged. 10% charged at Globe. Ch for Visa card. Rate is 70/30 mn for both in Austria, about 130€/30 mn at Globe, but not same level for casting and services. DFK don't seem natural at Wellcum and Andiamo, maybe Italian lovers don't kiss? Average level for me, except Natali and Virgina. Ro with good potential. I find better level with fluent DFK in Germany for 50/30 mn.
Very bad organization on Saturday, climbing Zoncolan at 1 pm, under sun and 30 degrees, after driving in the night, to arrive as early as possible to party at Wellcum, wishing for new girls coming for party and to repeat with Natali, but it was not serious at all, painful climbing even good finish, and even arrived at 4. 30 pm at already crowded Wellcum, I already had my party for my broken body for the day. When Natali came to me smiling, asking me if I was OK, I couldn't answer her I wanted to go with her, because I was just not able. I did need until about 10 pm, to be able to forget pain, and Natali lost her beautiful smile since long time, even was quite busy. When I discovered pretty brunette, but not busy, Anna. It from Vicenza, I thought to try to find new energy, I wanted this Italian woman, not busy in an Italian club? When many Romanian girls were busy on this party. Unfortunately, Anna was not a sensual GF for an Italian woman, no kiss, only sporty sex. In doggy, she asked me: do you want my ass? I can't with Romanian girls who could not resist: You kill my ass, after 30 seconds, so, why not getting an Italian beautiful ass. Anna worked a lot, with her toy, my fingers, on me, for her 100 extra, but too small, couldn't enter, I would have need long time with fingers to open her enough, really frustrating, but she worked also hard in doggy to let me finish. 240 € for a very frustrating hour. On the night, fireworks, tombola where a guy won free entry for 1 month, and the best of the party for me was to see about 5 Romanian WGs dancing, singing, shouting, they were laughing, they looked so happy together, I would have not dare to ask one of them to go to room if I was attracted, maybe because they had good business on this crowded party, but they looked really happy, it was just a pleasure to watch them laughing and dancing together. After a short night, the night before, my broken body sport, I didn't wanted to leave frustrated, so when brunette Virginia. Ro asked me in Italian how I felt, I answered I was ready for her. We went to room at 2. 30 am, when party finished at 3 am, we stayed for nearly 1 hour, even she was busy on party, she asked me to make her cum when I did DATY her, and was very sensitive for fucking, saying: You finish? So even having finished, I kept on fucking her with all my last strength. We came downstairs in an empty club with lights on, not lights for working hours. Thanks to Virginia to relax me, so I could push in curves around Tarvisio in the night.
Fashion seems to be bra, but pussy and ass naked, at Wellcum and Andiamo. Girls are more natural look at Andiamo, even Natali, Anna. It and Virginia have natural look, but many tattooed, silicon at Well cum, same kind of casting than GT Bruggen, even not Germans.
Will be back next year, but with a more professional organization and behavior, to play with my new Austrian friend, climbing to the lake, and this year, we are 2-2 with Zoncolan, but next year, I will ask to leave Wellcum for it, to defeat it in better conditions, and then returning for my award, maybe with Natali and Virginia, my 2 best Austrian tour girls. The only 2 who were at German level I m used to.
Are DFK fluent natural in Vienna? Not for most of girls at Italian border.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1923003]Are DFK fluent natural in Vienna? Not for most of girls at Italian border.[/QUOTE]IME you will have to ask each girl for BBBJ and DFK in Vienna. Some will do it for free. Some will ask for a small extra. Some say they will DFK but only LFK. And some simply don't. It is not a standard, but easy to get for free even with the hottest girls when working the line-up. The girls claim it is a YMMV. If you do not ask prior to committing yourself, then chances are slim.
Yes, my Vienna experience is limited (one recent visit / three etablishments visited). I cannot say for sure if a majority of girls provide kissing. I am only assuming it is easy to get if you are clean and respectful, and that repeat business will increase your chances (as is my experience elsewhere).
For my 6 girls at Wellcum and Andiamo, all provided BBBJ for 70/30 mn, 3 provided DFK but not all along the room, I had to get kisses, so, not fluent enough for me, compare to Germany. But no extra asked. Only Italian Anna said: no kiss. In Germany, I often get fluent DFK on first room without extra asked. So, Austria seem more expensive and lower level for GF behavior.
Bad weather on this Saturday on French Alps, so at 1 pm, decided to drive across Italy, from San Sicario to Tarvisio, to repeat my friend Zoncolan, 1 week ago, if I climbed, I failed on the performance, arrived at falling night, so I will climb at night, without seeing the road in the forest, but less warm than at 1 pm, it was a big mistake, just killing body. This time, great 8 kms climbing, even dangerous. To recover, go fast again to Wellcum, entry 85 with credit card, to have good diner just before finished at 11.45 pm on Friday and Saturday. Unfortunately, casting was not so good than 1 week ago, no Natali, no Virginia, no Anna. It, about 30 girls. No room for me on that night, but around midnight, like for FerrAgosto, I saw about 5 Romanian girls dancing, singing, shouting, laughing, again a real pleasure to see them, I never saw this in any other club in Germany, or Switzerland.
I think better to wait on September for more girls attending. Be back on next summer.
[QUOTE=Kforab;1767477]Try Lady O -[URL]www.lady-o.at/[/URL] That the must- have- seen club in Innsbruck since many many years and a hot spot for all 1-2 mongers from northern Italy.[/QUOTE]Could I ask anyone who knows if this is a brothel and if so does anyone have any idea of the prices and lineup quality.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1923003] DFK don't seem natural at Wellcum and Andiamo, maybe Italian lovers don't kiss? Average level for me, except Natali and Virgina. Ro with good potential. I find better level with fluent DFK in Germany for 50/30 mn.
Are DFK fluent natural in Vienna? Not for most of girls at Italian border.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Shark16;1923211]IME you will have to ask each girl for BBBJ and DFK in Vienna. Some will do it for free. Some will ask for a small extra. Some say they will DFK but only LFK. And some simply don't.[/QUOTE]I don't like to ask a girl if she kisses. If she has bad intentions she will just lie. If she has good intentions she will kiss anyway. So what's the point?
About Andiamo, I would compare it to Artemis in Berlin. Advertised as the best, but gets flooded with tourists (Italians in Andiamo's case), and the girls develop a cynical attitude. Actually the comparison favors Andiamo, because it has nicer staff and the decor is more tasteful and luxurious. And the girls are not messed up by so much silicon and tattoos and smoking and gum. But the service is still stubbornly subpar.
I might give Wellcum a try for the sake of thoroughness. Seems a long way out. Is there any way to it except taxi? Is it worth the taxi fare?
One-day visit to Wellcum the day after Halloween Part.
Hotel interior, single room + entrance: 140 euro (usually only from Sunday to Wednesday).
30 mm. 70 euro, CIM 50, Back door 100.
Good number of girls for every taste. I had confidential meetings with four ladies, as I describe below:
Angel: It is the prototype of the teen girl, skinny, pale skin, silver hair (I mean a particular blonde), very pretty and active. It offers much but it's better to take prior agreements. I think no DFK.
Nikita: tall, blonde, buxom. Woman, not girl. Very smart and helpful. Room is very active in all. Usually yes DFK.
Amelia: nice and friendly lean and curvy girl, blond and curly hair. Pretty face and nice body. Polite and quiet. Room is fine with her.
Ramona: mature woman with young body, a panther. Even in the room. Very attractive. After the meeting you must rest.
Great club, good food and great staff at the reception.
Hotel interior: Sleeping on the battlefield is a very good comfort.
[QUOTE=Macchia;1962753]
30 mm. 70 euro, CIM 50, Back door 100.
[/QUOTE]And 85 entrance fee. Also most mongers will need to factor in the time and expense of getting there as it is more out-of-the-way than Andiamo and there's a weird detour from the highway. By taxi it's 50 each way from Villach, or 35 if you make a deal. (The usual clientele don't have to worry about that as they are Italian guys who can print their own money and are driving up north in Lamborghinis.).
The girls are friendlier than in Andiamo. Most are Romanians but I was lucky enough to meet an amateur-like beauty from Marrakesh / Stuttgart. She was a natural lover of sex. However, when she started at the club she was told, "No kissing here!" So that is one thing which would stop me from being a regular at this club, despite the fine facilities (great jacuzzi especially), food, and beautiful naked bodies on view.
[QUOTE=Polyamorist;1962955] ... By taxi it's 50 each way from Villach, or 35 if you make a deal..[/QUOTE]You can spend less on taxis if you call the front desk Wellcum.
[QUOTE=Polyamorist;1962003]I don't like to ask a girl if she kisses. If she has bad intentions she will just lie. If she has good intentions she will kiss anyway. So what's the point?
[/QUOTE]Having said that, I would admit that this is really a Thing in Austria. I mean, asking about kissing. What I have been observing lately. It's like an erotic ritual, the girls expect it as part of the warm-up process. So if you don't ask, you don't get it and you have to deal with all the weirdness that implies. Still seems silly to me but when in Rome.
[QUOTE=Polyamorist;1964946]Having said that, I would admit that this is really a Thing in Austria. I mean, asking about kissing. What I have been observing lately. It's like an erotic ritual, the girls expect it as part of the warm-up process. So if you don't ask, you don't get it and you have to deal with all the weirdness that implies. Still seems silly to me but when in Rome.[/QUOTE]It has become a thing in the last decade, I would say. Kissing was something that you wouldn't get with or without asking. Either way in the old days you would have made a fool out of yourself if asking for it. Nowadays it often is part of the menu that girls have and kissing is a thing that girls do for extra money. Like in all Laufhauses you can buy this extra for 20€.
It is absolutely no ritual anymore unless it is at the girls discrestion and this is often the case in sex nightclubs and FKK clubs.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1923346]In Germany, I often get fluent DFK on first room without extra asked. So, Austria seem more expensive and lower level for GF behavior.[/QUOTE]I finally got to the bottom of this. For a while I was confused by girls in Austria that had really wild passionate sex with me but wouldn't kiss, which I would normally take as a sign they don't like me. In Germany that is really what it would mean.
After questioning some exceptionally friendly ladies, I discovered that the bosses in some Austrian FKKs have started telling the girls not to kiss, and even spreading the most fearful stories about the diseases they will get if they do this (normal French kissing) with guys. If any of this were true, the human race would have died out long ago. But a lot of these girls are young and uneducated and fresh from Romania, so they will just believe what they are told. Then they spread the scare stories to other girls and it becomes a standard, and the guys start to believe all this comes from the girls themselves. Meanwhile the pimps have their guys online talk about how kissing is an "extra" rather than the integral part of sex it has been in Western culture for the past few thousand years. The idea is to create an artificial shortage, and establish from that a new pricing tier.
Anyway, for the average monger in Austria, if you run into this, a girl suddenly turning down kissing, my advice would be: don't get offended, it does not necessarily mean that she doesn't like you. The thing to do is to be gentle and make her understand that you won't tell any manager: what happens in the room is strictly between you and her. A bit of kindness goes a long way to getting the girls in the right mood, and then the barriers imposed from without tend to come down.
At Andiamo or Wellcum, most of girls were friendly with a French guy, I was the first for 5 on my 6 girls.
So I will return on next Summer. Before I had Russian escorts in Milano to recover from Dolomiti sports, but it is down now, so I will keep on enjoying BBBJ in Austrian FKK. I just have to manage in most professional way my friend Zoncolan, but I learned from my mistake on a so warm Saturday afternoon and how to put heart in red zone for more than 1 hour.
In both clubs, entry 85, can pay with credit card. Good foods. Italian speaking for staff, when on Stelvio, most Italians speak German.
Going to Andiamo in Villach sometime this February, would someone like to go together there? Msg me if you would like to go and so we can plan it out!
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Finally headed up to Villach with some friends two weeks from now. As opposed to the bigger places like Wellcum and Andiamo, we're going to try out Casa Carintia. Anyone been there as of lately to inform how it is there? Good service? Good girls?
Hello guys,
Hope you are doing well.
For first time I am planning to visit a sauna / FKK club so I am a newcomer to this.
What place would you suggest a "newbie" to visit for first time, Andiamo or Wellcum?
Probably both FKK clubs have their own pros and cons, by pictures I would say Wellcum's facility looks much bigger compared to Andiamo and has its own hotel which is a plus for me.
Can you compare Andiamo and Wellcum please? Which club has more attractive girls in your opinion?
Also in which club girls are "less annoying"? I have heard in places like Goldentime in Wien, girls will bothering you all the time to go into a room with them?
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Darster;2003793]Hello guys,
Hope you are doing well.
For first time I am planning to visit a sauna / FKK club so I am a newcomer to this.
What place would you suggest a "newbie" to visit for first time, Andiamo or Wellcum?
Probably both FKK clubs have their own pros and cons, by pictures I would say Wellcum's facility looks much bigger compared to Andiamo and has its own hotel which is a plus for me.
Can you compare Andiamo and Wellcum please? Which club has more attractive girls in your opinion?
Also in which club girls are "less annoying"? I have heard in places like Goldentime in Wien, girls will bothering you all the time to go into a room with them?
Thanks![/QUOTE]I'm more or less in the same boat, could anyone please provide some insight.
[QUOTE=NAGuy;2006721]I'm more or less in the same boat, could anyone please provide some insight.[/QUOTE]It was already responded to in the Vienna thread. I agree with what the user wrote there. In Villach or close to Villach there are 2 great FKK clubs as opposed to Vienna where GT is the only good FKK.
Of course in Vienna you have other good options as Maxim and Babylon and a few Laufhauses but if solely concentrated on FKK Wellcum and Andiamo are a better combo than GT and FP in Vienna. Also in Wellcum you can book the hotel and sleep right there, saving transport money at times.
Andiamo according to many reports in an italian well famous forum is at an (all time) low about quantity of ladies, atmosphere and services (and food.) so be aware, a shadow of its glorious (till 2014) past. Wellcum is better in many ways but also not in the best health.
But if you are there try for yourself both and decide what suits you best! Good luck.
[QUOTE=AdamCki;2007622]Andiamo according to many reports in an italian well famous forum is at an (all time) low about quantity of ladies, atmosphere and services (and food.) so be aware, a shadow of its glorious (till 2014) past. Wellcum is better in many ways but also not in the best health.
But if you are there try for yourself both and decide what suits you best! Good luck.[/QUOTE]How do you mean "not in the best health"?
Got a reply from Andiamo and they say they have around 40-45 girls every day.
[QUOTE=Darster;2003793]Hello guys,
Hope you are doing well.
For first time I am planning to visit a sauna / FKK club so I am a newcomer to this.
What place would you suggest a "newbie" to visit for first time, Andiamo or Wellcum?
Probably both FKK clubs have their own pros and cons, by pictures I would say Wellcum's facility looks much bigger compared to Andiamo and has its own hotel which is a plus for me.
Can you compare Andiamo and Wellcum please? Which club has more attractive girls in your opinion?
Also in which club girls are "less annoying"? I have heard in places like Goldentime in Wien, girls will bothering you all the time to go into a room with them?
Thanks![/QUOTE]Hi Darster,
Actually headed to Villach tomorrow morning. After hearing so much about Andiamo and then Wellcum, someone on this forum and even a personal friend suggested to go to Casa Carintia. So that's where we are headed. Will inform of my findings there.
[QUOTE=SteveInIta;2007806]Hi Darster,
Actually headed to Villach tomorrow morning. After hearing so much about Andiamo and then Wellcum, someone on this forum and even a personal friend suggested to go to Casa Carintia. So that's where we are headed. Will inform of my findings there.[/QUOTE]Keep us updated!
[QUOTE=Darster;2008391]Keep us updated![/QUOTE]So finally after a long wait and some research, myself and 2 other friends finally took a visit to Romerbad Casa Carintia just about 25 minutes outside of Villach. We had been considering either Andiamo or Wellcum but a few people on this forum and a personal friend said to take the extra 25 minutes drive and try Casa Carintia. To begin, it's not that hard to find and there is plenty of parking so no issues there. Upon entry, we were greeted with a very friendly staff member working the front desk. He said the entry fee is 50 euros and that includes alcoholic and non alcoholic drinks. (he said they will cut you off if you appear to be too drunk.) There's also a small kitchen area with simple sandwich types of snacks. Now for the good part. On top of the 50 euros entry fee, you can buy coins. Each coin is worth a 30 min session with a girl in a private room. And it includes, as the guy at the entry told us, "uncovered blow job, fucking, licking her and kissing. " I'm assuming light kissing and not DFK. I'm not a kisser so that didn't matter. They do have a long standing offer. For 130 euros, you get entry and two 30 minute sessions. So you save 20 euros. Not bad. So us "3 amigos" each paid our 130 and went to the room off to the left. In the room was the bathroom, locker room and showers. They provide robes, towels and slippers. They also provide a key to a locker. Once we got into our robes. We opened the door that leads to the rest of the club and found 15-20 women all naked. Talk about being like a kid in the candy store! Most women were pretty good looking although there were a couple that could be easily passed on. Most of the women were in the bar area and some made their way into the pole dancing room. Going upstairs led to the rooms and another floor above that led to the sauna and wellness area. So starting with my 2 friends and then myself, here's how we did; my first friend. Well, he already had a fairly good amount of alcohol in him but he went with 2 ladies and said he had the most amazing 2 uncovered BJs ever. My other friend picked one lady that was very good looking. Unfortunately for him, once they were in the room, the lady (and he doesn't remember her name) kept pressuring him to either pay more or use up his 2nd coin her in order to get more services. So much pressure* that he was pissed off and they decided to end the session a bit early. No orgasm. His second girl (again. Don't know the name) was more fun. My friend agreed to pay her an extra 50 euros to do more. DFK, fingering in the front and rear. Etc. He said it was great but still didn't manage an orgasm. My observation was its better to get a feel of the area and the girls to see how their attitudes are. Maybe spend more time with the. Before picking and going in the room. Now comes to my "adventure". I was attracted to (as she claimed) a Bulgarian named Jenna. Her moves on the dance pole and playing with her sweet spot while pole dancing did it for me. Even though I didn't pick her til about 30 min after her dance. I kept noticing her looking at me and smiling so I finally decided to talk a bit with her and then ultimately in one of the rooms. She gave amazing uncovered BJ and so I repaid her with some DATY. Near the end of the 30 min session, she was so wet so what a good time to put it in her. She put her nice ass up in the air and went at it doggie style. Even let me lightly finger her. A shower before the start and end by the way. I ended up going with her again as I wanted to guarantee myself I'd have great experience again. I would definitely try Casa Carintia out again.
[QUOTE=SteveInIta;2009408]So finally after a long wait and some research, myself and 2 other friends finally took a visit to Romerbad Casa Carintia just about 25 minutes outside of Villach. We had been considering either Andiamo or Wellcum but a few people on this forum and a personal friend said to take the extra 25 minutes drive and try Casa Carintia. To begin, it's not that hard to find and there is plenty of parking so no issues there. Upon entry, we were greeted with a very friendly staff member working the front desk. He said the entry fee is 50 euros and that includes alcoholic and non alcoholic drinks. (he said they will cut you off if you appear to be too drunk.) There's also a small kitchen area with simple sandwich types of snacks. Now for the good part. On top of the 50 euros entry fee, you can buy coins. Each coin is worth a 30 min session with a girl in a private room. And it includes, as the guy at the entry told us, "uncovered blow job, fucking, licking her and kissing. " I'm assuming light kissing and not DFK. I'm not a kisser so that didn't matter. They do have a long standing offer. For 130 euros, you get entry and two 30 minute sessions. So you save 20 euros. Not bad. So us "3 amigos" each paid our 130 and went to the room off to the left. In the room was the bathroom, locker room and showers. They provide robes, towels and slippers. They also provide a key to a locker. Once we got into our robes. We opened the door that leads to the rest of the club and found 15-20 women all naked. Talk about being like a kid in the candy store! Most women were pretty good looking although there were a couple that could be easily passed on. Most of the women were in the bar area and some made their way into the pole dancing room. Going upstairs led to the rooms and another floor above that led to the sauna and wellness area. So starting with my 2 friends and then myself, here's how we did; my first friend..[/QUOTE]Awesome review!
Have you seen some 30+ years old girls or less ones?
[QUOTE=Darster;2009590]Awesome review!
Have you seen some 30+ years old girls or less ones?[/QUOTE]Sorry, I meant have you seen mostly girls or some MILFs as well?
[QUOTE=Darster;2009590]Awesome review!
Have you seen some 30+ years old girls or less ones?[/QUOTE]Hi Darster,
Thanks. It's the least I can do. I relied on this site for reviews of places I've been to in Prague, Italy and now Austria. When you go mongering, just kindly return the favor and give a review. That said -ages at Casa Carintia. Honestly, in my opinion it seemed to me that most of the girls that night were in the late- 20's. I don't think there were young ones (ages 18-21). If there were any over 30, they looked really nice and hid it well. Another note regarding Casa Carintia; if you want to go with a girl, you must approach them. They won't come to you. I wish that they would at least all introduce themselves once you enter the bar area where they hang out.
Anyone has been in this laufhaus in Villach? [URL]http://www.laufhaus-villach.at/[/URL].
Any review regarding it?
Dear fellow Mmongers,
Any action in Sölden?
My report (s) will follow if I find something.
Thanks in advance.
V.
Hi fellow mongers!
Any comparison about current situation in Goldentime Vienna and Wellcum?
Thanks for answer.
My buddy and I are heading to FKK Club Wellcum as I'm posting this. I've read good things about this place and we are very much hoping for at least two dozen girls, since its Easter time. Usually, over the holidays the girls go home and who knows how many remained to please us men.
Generally, we are looking forward to seeing the lineup of girls that work over the Easter Holidays. Will post an update as soon as we know more, after the first session.
FKK Wellcum is in great shape, even over the Easter Holidays. We have seen somewhere between 30-40 girls.
There were a few stunning beauties and I even saw a few familiar girls from other brothels in Vienna. Nadia (formerly known as Michelle) and Sandra worked in Maxim before Wellcum. Sandra only worked there for a couple of weeks, but she is a super performer in the room. I also recognized Inna who formerly worked at Funpalast and Goldentime before returning to Wellcum. It was a bit surprising to see that she's not working with Paolina anymore. These two girls could be twins as far as their services and looks go. As far as we know, Paolina is still in Goldentime.
I decided to stick to girls I know, so I had a session with Inna first and then with Sandra (forgot her work name that she uses here). I played it safe by choosing girls I know would satisfy me 100%, but I saw a few girls who interest me very much. We decided to stay another day and I will most likely try to catch some of them.
The club is super pretty, but a little dark for my taste. The colors that are used are gray, black, little bit of white and lots of pink. The place is stylish to the max. The lineup of girls was not the best I've seen, but for the Easter time it was more than good. Food was also exceptional, at least for day one. Let's see what the second day brings.
Day 2 at Club Wellcum was much quieter. Less people and fewer girls, very quiet atmosphere. The lineup of ladies was still OK but not that great anymore.
I started my session with Lorena or Loredana, don't remember the name correctly. She is a short brunette with an extremely good looking body. She usually sits by the bar, near the ladies dressing room, talking with her friends.
She is not a good talker, even though her English is good, but she doesn't seem to like to converse. She also seemed bored. A bit of teasing is good, as she seemed to respond to that, but no real chemistry with her. After how the approach and first minutes went, one could fear to get an ice cold service in the room, but this was not the case. My experience with her was actually very good, but no kissing allowed.
She didn't have a lot of stamina in the room and she felt tired very soon. It was also too hot in the room for her as well which slowed us down at some point. On the pro side she seemed to enjoy being licked or it was a good act. Service-wise she was on the spot and summing up an overall average but not great girl. On a positive note: she didn't ask for a tip. Almost all girls in Wellcum seem to ask for a present or a tip after the session.
The next girl I found was Laura from the republic of Moldova. Laura is a short blonde with Botox lips, nice natural medium sized tits and a small ass. She is a great talker, a funny and friendly person. She is also a smart girl and a good performer in the room. She put up an act as if she was getting off massively. It was an act, but a believable one. She also performed a great blowjob, very deep throat.
After the session, she asked for a tip which was almost justified for the whole experience. I noticed that girls in Wellcum tend to shorten the time and say that half an hour is almost over when it isn't. Laura didn't charge a full hour though, she just asked for a tip which she got.
Later on we found her real sister Eda who is a younger and much wilder version of Laura. Eda is childish and playful. She wasn't my type because of the childishness, but my friend took a longer session with her. As he described it, she put on a great show in the room, funny performer. The braces add to the teenage girl look and she gave my friend a very sloppy wet blowjob. She really must have been a huge actress in the room, as she talked a lot and teased my friend to the max. BTW, my friend's first session was with Inna, as he knew that she is a solid choice.
The sisters look similar, but Laura looks better, slimmer and more mature even though she is only 24 years old. They were both very entertaining in different ways.
As I mentioned before, girls in Wellcum often ask for tips and Eda did the same. Not sure what my friend did and what he gave her, but she asked so it really is a thing in Wellcum. Lorena didn't ask for a tip which was a huge plus and the girls from day 1 didn't either but I know some of them do. During our 2 days there we also met Misha who formerly worked in Goldentime for many years.
The food was not that great compared to the day before, pretty average on day 2.
All in all, service-wise Wellcum must have improved because of older reports in which service was sometimes criticized as being too clinical and rushed. As far as management goes, the girls seem to have many rules that they need to follow, which TBH helps the overall experience to be good. There are many cases to be made why Wellcum is a bit better now than Goldentime in Vienna is.
2 more important facts:
1. You will not find locals in Wellcum at all. The place almost only attracts Italians, Croatians and Slovenians. Some exception in the low 1-digit percentiles. Some people may find that odd but I think I get the reason why that is so.
2. The hotel is an important addition to the overall great standing Wellcum. The rooms are very nice and this is a super convenient thing and a time-saver as well.
[QUOTE=Zorp001;2025129]Day 2 at Club Wellcum was much quieter. Less people and fewer girls, very quiet atmosphere. The lineup of ladies was still OK but not that great anymore.
I started my session with Lorena or Loredana, don't remember the name correctly. She is a short brunette with an extremely good looking body. She usually sits by the bar, near the ladies dressing room, talking with her friends.
She is not a good talker, even though her English is good, but she doesn't seem to like to converse. She also seemed bored. A bit of teasing is good, as she seemed to respond to that, but no real chemistry with her. After how the approach and first minutes went, one could fear to get an ice cold service in the room, but this was not the case. My experience with her was actually very good, but no kissing allowed.
She didn't have a lot of stamina in the room and she felt tired very soon. It was also too hot in the room for her as well which slowed us down at some point. On the pro side she seemed to enjoy being licked or it was a good act. Service-wise she was on the spot and summing up an overall average but not great girl. On a positive note: she didn't ask for a tip. Almost all girls in Wellcum seem to ask for a present or a tip after the session.
The next girl I found was Laura from the republic of Moldova. Laura is a short blonde with Botox lips, nice natural medium sized tits and a small ass. She is a great talker, a funny and friendly person. She is also a smart girl and a good performer in the room. She put up an act as if she was getting off massively..[/QUOTE]If you compare Wellcum to Goldentime, quality of girls was better at Wellcum?
[QUOTE=Zorp001;2025129] Almost all girls in Wellcum seem to ask for a present or a tip after the session.
[/QUOTE]My experience with tips in Wellcum: I had about 40 sessions with about 20 different girls. I've been asked for a tip exactly once (in GT never).
[QUOTE=Itponaus;2026173]My experience with tips in Wellcum: I had about 40 sessions with about 20 different girls. I've been asked for a tip exactly once (in GT never).[/QUOTE]Everybody should be so lucky. The ladies maybe perceive you as a regular and therefore don't want to max you out. In GT the girls don't really talk about tips but often want extra money for certain things like kissing and sometimes OWO. Again, this won't really happen if they know you are a regular but if someone seems a tourist it will happen at some point. Nothing wrong in asking, though.
[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2026281]Everybody should be so lucky. The ladies maybe perceive you as a regular and therefore don't want to max you out. In GT the girls don't really talk about tips but often want extra money for certain things like kissing and sometimes OWO. Again, this won't really happen if they know you are a regular but if someone seems a tourist it will happen at some point. Nothing wrong in asking, though.[/QUOTE]Clubs like GT and Wellcum are great social places also and there is a lot of time for communication. It's not very difficult to establish good relations with some of 50 and more girls. But I think also that some impatient tourists are always welcome, as they help inexperienced girls to improve incomes and skills.
Found this video on their FB page, I see on their site there is a possibility to eat from "a living table".
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/wellcum.club/videos/1923724901179817/[/URL]
Do you have any info regarding that? Like do you need to rent a VIP room for it?
[QUOTE=Darster;2026879]Found this video on their FB page, I see on their site there is a possibility to eat from "a living table".
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/wellcum.club/videos/1923724901179817/[/URL]
Do you have any info regarding that? Like do you need to rent a VIP room for it?[/QUOTE]This is a party video, but I think that are also other possibilities to get a living table.
[QUOTE=Itponaus;2026466]Clubs like GT and Wellcum are great social places also and there is a lot of time for communication. It's not very difficult to establish good relations with some of 50 and more girls. But I think also that some impatient tourists are always welcome, as they help inexperienced girls to improve incomes and skills.[/QUOTE]What is your experience with kiss in Wellcum? Is it an extra service most of the time? This June I am planning to visit one of these clubs for the first time, I have never been in any FKKs before.
Basically I am looking for a good club atmosphere, relaxation & fun. What I have read parties in Wellcum are great but I do not know If Wellcum is a good place for a newbie.
[QUOTE=Darster;2027529]What is your experience with kiss in Wellcum? Is it an extra service most of the time? This June I am planning to visit one of these clubs for the first time, I have never been in any FKKs before.
Basically I am looking for a good club atmosphere, relaxation & fun. What I have read parties in Wellcum are great but I do not know If Wellcum is a good place for a newbie.[/QUOTE]Wellcum is a suitable FKK club for a newbies. It's also a nice place as itself. You will not see buses of tourists there and girls will not annoy you, except some newcomers maybe, who don't know regulars yet. On party days could be overcrowded with queues before rooms, but this should not be a reason to avoid parties in Wellcum.
About kissing: I've never been asked for extra money, but some girls could ask for it at least for FK. Some don't kiss at all or kiss "only by sympathy".
I will be in Villach next month so I will definitely visit one of the FKKs in the area.
Taxi from Villach to Wellcum and back would cost me around 100 E so I have a doubt If Wellcum is much better than Andiamo at the moment or I should spend rather these 100 E on a session at Andiamo.
Not sure If it is worth to get a taxi and visit Wellcum or just to stick to Andiamo?
[QUOTE=Darster;2030036]I will be in Villach next month so I will definitely visit one of the FKKs in the area.
Taxi from Villach to Wellcum and back would cost me around 100 E so I have a doubt If Wellcum is much better than Andiamo at the moment or I should spend rather these 100 E on a session at Andiamo.
Not sure If it is worth to get a taxi and visit Wellcum or just to stick to Andiamo?[/QUOTE]Under normal circumstances I would say it is totally fine to go to Andiamo because it has always been a very good and recently still a reasonable place to have fun at.
However given the most recent reports Wellcum is the place to be and it might even be worth the extra taxi fare or you might consider using the hotel at Wellcum if that is at all an option for you. Lineup at Wellcum will almost certainly be better than Andiamo's.
[QUOTE=Darster;2030036]I will be in Villach next month so I will definitely visit one of the FKKs in the area.
Taxi from Villach to Wellcum and back would cost me around 100 E so I have a doubt If Wellcum is much better than Andiamo at the moment or I should spend rather these 100 E on a session at Andiamo.
Not sure If it is worth to get a taxi and visit Wellcum or just to stick to Andiamo?[/QUOTE]You can save some money and come to Arnoldstein from Villach by train. Wellcum is about 3 km away from Arnoldstein train station.
[QUOTE=Itponaus;2027688]Wellcum is a suitable FKK club for a newbies. It's also a nice place as itself. You will not see buses of tourists there and girls will not annoy you, except some newcomers maybe, who don't know regulars yet. On party days could be overcrowded with queues before rooms, but this should not be a reason to avoid parties in Wellcum.
About kissing: I've never been asked for extra money, but some girls could ask for it at least for FK. Some don't kiss at all or kiss "only by sympathy".[/QUOTE]Instead of waiting for a free room, would it be possible to take a girl to your Wellcum hotel room?
I do not like the idea of waiting too long for a free room.
[QUOTE=Darster;2033641]Instead of waiting for a free room, would it be possible to take a girl to your Wellcum hotel room?
I do not like the idea of waiting too long for a free room.[/QUOTE]I think it's possible, if you have a room in a Wellcum hotel. A club and a hotel are in the same building and have common entrance. I had to wait for a room few times, but not more than 5-15 minutes, enjoyed in a chat with a girl.
Hi,
I just wanted to ask if the girls are fully nude either at Wellcum or Andiamo like at GoldenTime in Vienna. I have been to Funpalast, GT and Circolo Passion in Austria and the only place I have seen fully nude girls is at GT Vienna, are girls fully nude at any other clubs in Austria?
[QUOTE=DeltaIndigo;2037931]Hi,
I just wanted to ask if the girls are fully nude either at Wellcum or Andiamo like at GoldenTime in Vienna. I have been to Funpalast, GT and Circolo Passion in Austria and the only place I have seen fully nude girls is at GT Vienna, are girls fully nude at any other clubs in Austria?[/QUOTE]Girls in Wellcum are dressed as they feel well: in bikinis, parts of bikinis, bodies, some are naked also.
I was in Innsbruck in 2015 and 2016. Both these times I found this particular club Villa-O / Lady-O near the Innsbruck Hbf. Perfect for my mongering needs. But this time I went around the lady flat out told me it's 160 euros / hour. I was super shocked! She flatly refused to come down with the prices or reduce the duration. The other place I tried to visit was Maxim Haida. I would strongly avoid this one as they supposedly call themselves a "private club" but they give you very misleading info on the phone. I called the up the number on their website and was told to come down anytime. Once I landed up there, there was this really built guy who was super rude to me about the place and asked me to fuck off.
I used to love Innsbruck for its laid back nature and nice (but very costly compared to Vienna) mongering scene.
[QUOTE=NAGuy;2006721]I'm more or less in the same boat, could anyone please provide some insight.[/QUOTE]Spent last night there. About 10 hot ladies on a Monday night.
For 130 Euro you get entry fuck two hot chicks including licking pussy and eat and drink free alcohol all night.
50 Euro extra for a girl for half an hour after that.
Way better than Andiamo and Wellcum.
[QUOTE=DeltaIndigo;2037931]Hi,
I just wanted to ask if the girls are fully nude either at Wellcum or Andiamo like at GoldenTime in Vienna. I have been to Funpalast, GT and Circolo Passion in Austria and the only place I have seen fully nude girls is at GT Vienna, are girls fully nude at any other clubs in Austria?[/QUOTE]Nearby there is Casa Carinthia. Nude girls, real nice place. Free food and booze all night for 50 Euro! Special deal: 130 Euro gets entry plus two sessions including lick pussy.
[QUOTE=CyberCelt;2062068]Spent last night there. About 10 hot ladies on a Monday night.
For 130 Euro you get entry fuck two hot chicks including licking pussy and eat and drink free alcohol all night.
50 Euro extra for a girl for half an hour after that.
Way better than Andiamo and Wellcum.[/QUOTE]Line up is better compared to Andiamo / Wellcum? Or you think service is better at Casa Carintia?
[QUOTE=Darster;2062251]Line up is better compared to Andiamo / Wellcum? Or you think service is better at Casa Carintia?[/QUOTE]Oh ja a no contest sort of situation. Clearly Wellcum with well over 100 girls in the summer will not fear the line-up of römerbad. There is just the price issue or the thing with free alcohol that sets römerbad apart little' bit.
[QUOTE=DeltaIndigo;2037931]Hi,
I just wanted to ask if the girls are fully nude either at Wellcum or Andiamo like at GoldenTime in Vienna. I have been to Funpalast, GT and Circolo Passion in Austria and the only place I have seen fully nude girls is at GT Vienna, are girls fully nude at any other clubs in Austria?[/QUOTE]Girls are not full naked at Wellcum nor Andiamo, same like NRW.
Never saw 100 girls in both on last August, even on Wellcum August party, but about 50 , but I don t care about 100 girls because I can t go with them all, I prefer to find some real beauties. Wish for small blond Natali. Hu still at Wellcum, there were also 2 pretty brunettes there, won t repeat with not kissing Anna. It even real woman look. Also wish for superb Ina. Ro if she return to Wellcum.
Good foods in both.
How is the renovation going at Andiamo? I will have 2-3 nights at the Villach area in mid August, so pondering if there is any use to go elsewhere than Wellcum. Have met 2 excellent girls this past 12 months who used to work at Wellcum, although I'm afraid they've both left for good and one is rumored to have stopped working for good (Kathy). But I am hoping the rest of the girls live up to that standard. And is the service at Andiamo the same level?
[QUOTE=CyberCelt;2062073]Nearby there is Casa Carinthia. Nude girls, real nice place. Free food and booze all night for 50 Euro! Special deal: 130 Euro gets entry plus two sessions including lick pussy.[/QUOTE]Free booze looks promising. Is there a nearby place to stay overnight? Wellcum has a hotel, what about Casa Carinthia?
Hello,
Is it worth it to stay in these clubs almost till closing times at weekends? Will a lot of girls leave after midnight?
Andiamo is opened till 4 AM on weekends, Wellcum till 3 AM.
[QUOTE=Darster;2065783]Hello,
Is it worth it to stay in these clubs almost till closing times at weekends? Will a lot of girls leave after midnight?
Andiamo is opened till 4 AM on weekends, Wellcum till 3 AM.[/QUOTE]Last Summer, for my 3 visits, I saw girls dancing and laughing together after midnight at Wellcum, not looking for more business. It was a real pleasure to see them laughing like this, I never saw this in any other club, in Germany or Switzerland or NL.
Party on 12 August at Wellcum, opening at 2 pm.
Can pay entry 85 for both Wellcum and Andiamo with credit card without charge.
What a beautiful casting with some really pretty girls, but most girls don't kiss. Italians don't seem demanding for kissing. Short blond Natali. Hu, Ivana or Ivanka silicon, still there. More exhausting than climbing devils, to find girls who kiss. Tara and Elsa kiss but not fluently like my German or Swiss girls, but third try was a real success, what a lovely GF, so wet, juicy even before eating her clit. Like for climbing, never give up, a new great GFE to enjoy.
Wonderful Carinthian mountains around. Beautiful club with good foods and drinks, even difficult to get a drink at the bar, faster in restaurant.
Outside swimming pool in the garden. Hotel. Entry for club is 85, can be paid with credit card, without charge. I think they charge when you ask money to the desk to pay girls. No ATM.
At the moment, best casting I know, some really pretty girls: Maya. Hu, Adela. Ro, ex Roxana Sharks, Natali. Hu, a beautiful small blond, Tara, Daria red hair, some brunettes, some amazing bodies. Girls are used to Italian clients, not French, kissing don t seem standard but BBBJ / CIM and fuck, but Daria and Tara provide. I even found a passionate kisser, with 6 1 hour rooms with her for my 4 days at Wellcum, when I was trying to climb Zoncolan and I succeeded after 2 giving up under rain.
No visit at Andiamo this year. No lake climbing in Austria.
I wished for Ina. Ro at Wellcum, no Ina, but I found a great GFE, but too busy with very long time rooms, and too far from Paris. Maybe again on next Summer, for sure for Zoncolan.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2070029]Party on 12 August at Wellcum, opening at 2 pm.
Can pay entry 85 for both Wellcum and Andiamo with credit card without charge.[/QUOTE]Rate for girls is 70/30 mn. BBBJ is free in Austria. Some really friendly behavior like red hair Daria. Ro or Tara. Ro or playful, not kissing, but could kiss for extra, Adela. Ro, at Wellcum.
Some pretty blond or brunettes, 2 red hair, 1 black, at Wellcum.
Ferragosto party was not so spectacular than last year when it was around swimming pool. Weather was very changing this year, like in Ovaro. It for Monte Zoncolan. Anyway, good foods and 2 1 hour rooms with my top GFE discovery, finishing with her at 3. 30 am with all lights on. Closed at 3 am. Unfortunately, not same good timing on Sunday night, even she was still perfect to start our day at 1 pm, before I drove to Ovaro for third try which was the good one, no rain on this Sunday.
At Wellcum, you can leave and come back later. On Friday and Sunday, I left at 4 pm and returned at 9 pm with no problem. Friendly staff speaking Italian rather than German.
Wellcum and Andiamo are for Italians, but also Slovens. Not many Austrians. Very few French, girls were amazed to see a French kisser, from Thursday to Sunday, but they smiled.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2071965]Natali. Hu, a beautiful small blond.[/QUOTE]She used to work in the Frankfurt clubs 3 or 4 years ago.
Hi Sirioja,
I searched for Wellcum on Google, but did not find anything. You mentioned that it's on the Austrian-Italian border, but that is a lot of kilometers.
Do you have the name of the city / village where it is located? Many thanks!
Edit, I think found it. It's close to Villach and Klagenfurt.
Here it is for anyone else who is interested:
Wellcum club Hrvatska
Flussstrasse 1
9601 Hohenthurn
Austria
[url]https://wellcum.at/[/url]
[QUOTE=HornyHarry;2072897]Hi Sirioja,
I searched for Wellcum on Google, but did not find anything. You mentioned that it's on the Austrian-Italian border, but that is a lot of kilometers.
Do you have the name of the city / village where it is located? Many thanks!
Edit, I think found it. It's close to Villach and Klagenfurt.
Here it is for anyone else who is interested:
Wellcum club
Flussstrasse 1 - Kraftoolstrasse for GPS
9601 Hohenthurn
Austria close to Tarvisio Italy
[url]https://wellcum.at/[/url][/QUOTE]On their website there is a map, and Kraftoolstrasse for GPS. Hohenthum is 5 kms from Italian border, on motorway Tarvisio. It to Villach. At. Paradise for my eyes with some really sweet girls.
Andiamo is in Villach.
Both very close to Slovenia where Marina club.
Wellcum is more expensive than Germany, but casting quality worth for me, even I also find great girls in Germany.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2072883]She used to work in the Frankfurt clubs 3 or 4 years ago.[/QUOTE]Blond Natali claiming to be Hungarian, worked at Paradise Sarrebrucken before Wellcum. She was already at Wellcum on last Summer, when I tried her for a good room, but this year I found a much more passionate GFE, 25 yo Romanian. Natali use to hide tits but with ass naked, sitting on swimming pool side of lounge.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2072037]
Some pretty blond or brunettes, 2 red hair, 1 black, at Wellcum.[/QUOTE]Hey Sirioja,
Did you see Cassandra there? Half Moroccan / half Romanian. Exotic looking, tallish with juicy B cups and fantastic slim figure with gorgeous black wavy curly hair. No tattoos. Looks a bit like the character Missandei (one of Daenarys' confidants) from GoT. I would go back to Wellcum just for her.
The weird thing is that her profile is no longer listed on the club website so hard to track her on the tagesplan on the days when she's working.
Howie.
[QUOTE=Howie;2073147]Hey Sirioja,
Did you see Cassandra there? Half Moroccan / half Romanian. Exotic looking, tallish with juicy B cups and fantastic slim figure with gorgeous black wavy curly hair. No tattoos. Looks a bit like the character Missandei (one of Daenarys' confidants) from GoT. I would go back to Wellcum just for her.
The weird thing is that her profile is no longer listed on the club website so hard to track her on the tagesplan on the days when she's working.
Howie.[/QUOTE]I was at Wellcum 3 days on August 2016 and 4 days from 10 to 13 August, with Ferragosto party on Saturday 12, but never noticed your Cassandra. There were about 60 girls on Friday and Saturday.
Pistons, do you know Cassandra?
Maybe can call or mail Wellcum.
I didn t have time to visit this year because I prefer to enjoy my GF, but when I sent a mail to Andiamo to ask for informations, what a great and fast answer by mail back.
Wellcum was my Summer paradise, but I will drive so far through Dolomiti and Carinthia, only for hell of Monte Zoncolan, now we are married until I won t be anymore able to climb, looking at Federico Bahamontes, Charly Gaul, Fausto Coppi. I took breakfast in Heaven, had my Eve in Heaven in early afternoon. When she asked: But You don t finish? Had to explain her: I don't want to finish, if I finish I lose my power, You give me the strength to go to fight with Devil in Hell, but I will come back, I did, to enjoy her very hot on late night, even when club was already closed on Saturday night party. Dreams with Eve in Heaven, but I will always prefer my Devils in Hell, Dolomiti is land of devils. Maybe she understood: Free like a bird, climbing to the sky.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2073341] There were about 60 girls on Friday and Saturday.
Pistons, do you know Cassandra?[/QUOTE]One girl told me the rooster of girls were 200 who comes and goes. But these roosters are hardly up to date and since nobody is employed we will never know for sure if someone has stopped for good or will return after a while. A few girls I talked to had been away for a year or two only to return now this summer. Not that the club is more busy during summer. It is apparently equally popular whole year around. No, I cannot remember Cassandra, but the receptionist told me there were 80-90 girls around. Perhaps it was a bit of a stretch, but some girls take a day or two off also and want to avoid parties or slow days early in the week. 70 girls present during the busiest day, which was a Monday would be my guess.
If many Germans don t want to spend more than 50 and want everything for only 50 from Romanian or Bulgarian girls, so, going down business in Germany, Wellcum work with Italian business, and Italians love girls who attract them, wherever they come from. Also 70 instead of 50/30 mn, with not too demanding, mainly about kissing, clients.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2073755]If many Germans don t want to spend more than 50 and want everything for only 50 from Romanian or Bulgarian girls, so, going down business in Germany, Wellcum work with Italian business, and Italians love girls who attract them, wherever they come from. Also 70 instead of 50/30 mn, with not too demanding, mainly about kissing, clients.[/QUOTE]Very few clubs are worth 70 e per 30 min in my book. 60 is more fair for the good German clubs. But not 70. Wellcum is perhaps worth 70 as the only club I can think of.
But draw a chart with why scale: willingness to pay, and x scale: number of clients. The largest square area is where the clubs should aim for. Then it comes down to focus groups on clientelle which relates to location, night club factor, food, messe, tourism etc etc. And not everyone has won the lottery. Don't forget. 70 e is not cheap when entry is 85. Pluss hotell and fuel for transport and / or rental car. And that is just 1 session. Add 25 Euro return charge on Italian autostrada and you see why most Italians only stay 1 day. And a day spent at an FKK is a day less spent at work at home too. Most readers on this forum would stay 2,3,4 or even a full week as some I met at Wellcum just did. Then it isn't cheap any longer. With three 30 min sessions per day. Or one 1 hour session and one half hour session. 70 is just a small part of the total budget. But it adds up if you do ten times 70 instead of ten times 50 or even ten times 60. Or like me last two weeks: 27 half hours and 7 one hours. An Aca 30 min feels so much lighter on the heart than the heavy 70 e rooms LOL.
Better for the girls to get volume: 10 sessions of 50 or even 60 than 2 sessions of 70 e which I feel is testing my limit. It is all up in the mind.
And in retrospect I regret all the 1 h sessions. They should have been 30 min as well.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2073902]And in retrospect I regret all the 1 h sessions. They should have been 30 min as well.[/QUOTE]On first day, my 2 first tries didn't worth more than 30 mn and 70 € , kissing but not fluently enough, really nice behavior, but not my expectations level for sex and sensuality, but when I found my Eve, Wellcum became Summer Heaven, but garden was not Eden like at Sharks or VVertigo or GT, but so passionate, I liked so much when she gave me the pillow, showing: please take care of me, 6 1 hour rooms with her, each time 140 , but she really did worth for me for her quality and so GFE behavior, from Thursday night to Sunday before going to Zoncolan, she made me dream. She made more than 1000 on Friday and Saturday, too busy on Sunday evening, so I won't drive so far to wait for her, but I will miss my Eve.
Yes, motorways are very expensive in Italy, I think from Alps to Tarvisio close to Austrian border, about 60 €.
One thing regarding Wellcum I just noticed is that their girls update page on the Italian sister site is very much up to date. It says 88 girls are present right now. Although it does include girls who are in the area and just have 1-2 days off work. As I just spotted all the 6 girls on that site who I was with, and cannot find my 7th who left for vacation after Monday. Should be of interest when knowing the girls and you are undecided on going. But I wonder if the remaining 73 girls (or a few less considering I saw 2-5 leave during my stay, while other returned) (total is 161) are as good in average as the those present. That should mean we have yet to see 40% of the lineup.
Also regarding Italians spending more money on FKK's than Germans, consider the population of northern Italy that draws mongers to the FKK clubs in the area. Aprox 15 million population. As far south as Bologna and west as Verona. They are sustaining a population of perhaps 350 working girls on the roosters of the villash clubs plus marina. And maybe only 200-250 of these makes a good earning from it. In nrw and hessen area pluss the nearby regions in bw and rp plus some Frenchs across the border you have perhaps 30 million people to draw from, but they probably sustain an FKK working girls population of 3500, with 2000-2500 of these making a good earning from it. And it all relates to location, economy and willingness to pay for all the expenses combined. That is a 5:1 ratio divided on population.
Even if all this economy stuff doesn't give the clubs in this area a thumbs up from me, I have to say I loved the ambiance, food, wellness facilities and some of the girls at Wellcum. It seems to be the FKK club with the best lineup perhaps ever for me. A few girls there might draw me back even if service was on a scale from 3-10 among the girls I tried. And some variation on upsell levels too. The optics are definitely there. Just got to lock down the service too and a good chemistry with 1-3 girls as well.
The only thing that gets thumbs down from me was the opening hour at 12.00. Which only gives you about 1 hour to swim in the pool before it gets taken over by shadows. They deffinately didn't consider shadows from the building itself when building the place. Rotating the building 30-40 degrees would be better. Or at least open it 1-2 hours earlier (The other thing would be the jacuuzi. Here they have a thing or two to learn from Sharks. The jacuuzi is of the old type full of way too much chloride. Making it unsustainable to stay in there for very long before your body is killed of by the worst of all rat poisons. Too bad most FKK clubs have this type of jacuuzi. Maybe the vip jacuuzi is better, but I didn't try.
A smaller minor point is that they could have a small cooling device to keep the ice cream inside at the diner. It melts faster than take downs heart when finding someone he likes.
And there are bedbugs in the sleeping area. The sleeping area gets a score of 3 from me compared to Samya's 10. Mattrasses are OK (not even close to the ones at Samya), but the main draw is that the door from the sleeping area should never go towards the outdoors like it does here. Inviting all sorts of killer bugs to sting you while sleeping. That is why we got modern air conditioning.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2074584]And there are bedbugs in the sleeping area. The sleeping area gets a score of 3 from me compared to Samya's 10. Mattrasses are OK (not even close to the ones at Samya), but the main draw is that the door from the sleeping area should never go towards the outdoors like it does here. Inviting all sorts of killer bugs to sting you while sleeping. That is why we got modern air conditioning.[/QUOTE]You are a very critical person.
But thanks for the insight!
[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2074825]You are a very critical person.
But thanks for the insight![/QUOTE]The best place to take a short nap at Wellcum is in the cinema. But that is usually frowned upon by the girls. Unfortunately. I had a good nap one of the days in the sleeping area, but on my last day before a long drive I didn't manage to sleep at all there on my planned 1 HR nap due to stinger bugs keeping me constantly awake. Not good for traffic.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2074578]The only thing that gets thumbs down from me was the opening hour at 12.00. Which only gives you about 1 hour to swim in the pool before it gets taken over by shadows. They deffinately didn't consider shadows from the building itself when building the place. Rotating the building 30-40 degrees would be better. Or at least open it 1-2 hours earlier (The other thing would be the jacuuzi. Here they have a thing or two to learn from Sharks. The jacuuzi is of the old type full of way too much chloride. Making it unsustainable to stay in there for very long before your body is killed of by the worst of all rat poisons. Too bad most FKK clubs have this type of jacuuzi. Maybe the vip jacuuzi is better, but I didn't try.
A smaller minor point is that they could have a small cooling device to keep the ice cream inside at the diner. It melts faster than take downs heart when finding someone he likes.[/QUOTE]Wellcum outside swimming pool is not so cold than in German clubs. Best was warm inside swimming pool at Globe, but no more. In Wellcum swimming pool, You can look at so beautiful Carinthian mountains, small Dolomiti.
What is the most important: High tech jacuzzi or high level casting? 1 week after Wellcum, on my way back, I stopped at Sharks. I fell very down for beauties, 140 with my top GFE Eve was less expensive for me than 100 with a cute 27 yo little girl.
Even Ferragosto party was not like last year when was around swimming pool, but I wish I will find on next August same GFE level to enjoy between Zoncolan and Ocheniksee.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2074972]In Wellcum swimming pool, You can look at so beautiful Carinthian mountains, small Dolomiti.
What is the most important: High tech jacuzzi or high level casting? 1 week after Wellcum, on my way back, I stopped at Sharks. I fell very down for beauties, 140 with my top GFE Eve was less expensive for me than 100 with a cute 27 yo little girl.[/QUOTE]You are right, the view on the mountains is stunning. Almost like having an unesco work heritage site at your doorstep. I told everyone I was there for the view of the mountains. Both the large and the little mountains over their bellies.
I have no idea why you go for Sharks if you look for beauties. To me Sharks has perhaps 2-3 doable girls, but average is poor. It is more a place with good wellness facilities. If you want girls lineup oase and a few of the NRW clubs are miles ahead. But yes, I also want to return to wellcum and one or two girls there. If not present, at least wellcum has 20 reserve girls, while a club like sharks has 1 or 2.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2075007]You are right, the view on the mountains is stunning. Almost like having an unesco work heritage site at your doorstep. I told everyone I was there for the view of the mountains. Both the large and the little mountains over their bellies.
I have no idea why you go for Sharks if you look for beauties. To me Sharks has perhaps 2-3 doable girls, but average is poor. It is more a place with good wellness facilities. If you want girls lineup oase and a few of the NRW clubs are miles ahead. But yes, I also want to return to wellcum and one or two girls there. If not present, at least wellcum has 20 reserve girls, while a club like sharks has 1 or 2.[/QUOTE]For a mountains lover like me, Carinthians around Wellcum are beautiful, but 100 kms from Wellcum, on the way to Zoncolan, Dolomiti around Ampezzo are just amazing.
On 31 July, even not a top beauty, I really enjoyed my wet tornado at Sharks, I was informed she didn't work on Saturday and Sunday, but I wished maybe she would return on Monday, I played for more than 800 kms through Izoard, Galibier, Mont Cenis and San Bernardino, through Switzerland, I lost. Wellcum is too far now, maybe better for me, it was just illusion, I will get other illusions. For sure Sharks can't compete anymore with Wellcum for beauties.
Back in FKK / Saunaclub land, and am focusing more on Austria than Germany in this post July 1st world. Very much enjoyed my first Andiamo experience yesterday (a Saturday visit from 4:30 pm to 8:30 pm). 85 to get in and includes all the same things as German FKKs, plus 2 alcoholic drinks at the bar (beer or apple spritz). They also had a help yourself beer on tap outside during the barbeque.
The Club: Nice enough atmosphere and facilities. Enjoyed the saunas, "hot" tub, outdoor pool and lounge chairs. The food was excellent. Nice salads, including a good cold pasta salad and great hot pasta item, were inside. Outside was the bbq with burgers, chicken wings, etc. Staff were friendly and helpful. I went upstairs to get a massage (60 per hour, 30 for half) and was surprised to see two hot masseuses. Don't really see that at FKK clubs. They offered 4 hand massage, but I went with just one masseuse. Historically, the uglier the masseuse, the better the massage. So, I was a bit concerned, but I was relieved to find out that despite being attractive, she was a very good masseuse. I heard the other was was superb too.
The girls: Maybe not as much selection as the German clubs, but still good enough for me, and most the girls in there were girls I wouldn't mind heading to the room with. One thing though: they are very aggressive. They come at you with the threesome offers, etc. And sometimes you have to say "no" multiple times. Can be annoying. When the thicker girls approached (not many of them in the club), I waved them off and shook my head before they even got close.
I sessioned with 2 girls: First one was Nicola (or maybe Nicoletta) Romanian with dyed blonde hair. She sold me with the tongue ring. Great experience, and ended with CIM, which she was great at. She made sure to get every last drop, despite the big load I'd been saving up for 10 days. (70 for the half hour plus 50 for CIM). Second session was with a gorgeous, dark brunette Romanian. I think her name was Nousa or something similar. She sold me with her tan and black thigh high leggings. With her, I enjoyed just oral and 69 until completion. Same price tag, obviously.
Looking forward to sampling Wellcum today. I didn't rent a car, so Andiamo was nice because of it being a brief cheap Villach taxi. For Wellcum, I plan to take an S train to Arnoldstein and then either cab it (if there is one) or walk (40 minutes according to Google) the rest of the way.
Happy punting.
Wellcum is not a FKK club. Not all gals are fully naked. Anyway, casting is stronger than Oase and Sharks. And it also higher than GT at Vienna in optics. Few stunners are found early. I cannot reach them late. My favourite is hot naked body shape with natural big boobs and pretty juicy ass. Today some top still be reached at Oase and Shark. Pickup 1 HR (140 E) must provide hot horny satisfaction. I have taken two sessions. They have a hot body shape with pretty juicy ass, but silicone tits not in good shape. Anyway I must repeat at next summer.
[QUOTE=MikeTk1974;2079394]Wellcum is not a FKK club. Not all gals are fully naked. Anyway, casting is stronger than Oase and Sharks. And it also higher than GT at Vienna in optics. Few stunners are found early. I cannot reach them late. My favourite is hot naked body shape with natural big boobs and pretty juicy ass. Today some top still be reached at Oase and Shark. Pickup 1 HR (140 E) must provide hot horny satisfaction. I have taken two sessions. They have a hot body shape with pretty juicy ass, but silicone tits not in good shape. Anyway I must repeat at next summer.[/QUOTE]Have you seen some "older" girls in Wellcum? Some MILFs, 30+?
For me all girls who are over 30 are MILFs but I think you got what I mean.
[QUOTE=Darster;2079880]Have you seen some "older" girls in Wellcum? Some MILFs, 30+?
For me all girls who are over 30 are MILFs but I think you got what I mean.[/QUOTE]There are women that fall in this category in Wellcum at the moment. Some that you call MILFs and some which actually are mothers.
[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2080085]There are women that fall in this category in Wellcum at the moment. Some that you call MILFs and some which actually are mothers.[/QUOTE]You are right, but average age of girls is now lower than one or two years ago. About 300 girls exchanged in Wellcum during last 16 months and new entries are mostly younger than girls who left the club.
[QUOTE=Darster;2079880]Have you seen some "older" girls in Wellcum? Some MILFs, 30+?
For me all girls who are over 30 are MILFs but I think you got what I mean.[/QUOTE]A few of the best girls at Wellcum is 30-31 actually.
[QUOTE=Itponaus;2080111]You are right, but average age of girls is now lower than one or two years ago. About 300 girls exchanged in Wellcum during last 16 months and new entries are mostly younger than girls who left the club.[/QUOTE]No doubt, the lineup in Wellcum is real good.
[QUOTE=Darster;2079880]Have you seen some "older" girls in Wellcum? Some MILFs, 30+?
For me all girls who are over 30 are MILFs but I think you got what I mean.[/QUOTE]They are 34 and 29. Maybe MILF. Anyway so much 30+ MILF in FKK. Try escort like Russian college girls working as escort in HK.
The rooster at Wellcum just got cut drastically down from about 160 girls to just 125. Not sure if its a seasonal thing or just many girls who didn't make enough money who were leaving. Then again all the top 10-12 girls I remember for last month is still on the list. But it might mean there are opening for more girls too.
For my visits from Thursday 10 to Sunday 13 August, about 60 girls working, a bit less on Sunday, no wait for room except on Ferragosto party evening, but it was because my Eve preferred to wait for a good room, so we waited a bit. Other girls were asking her if she didn t want to take the free key and she answered she was waiting. Really high level girl who did worth my 140 for our 6 rooms, even she might not understand I left the club to go climbing before coming back on evening.
Unfortunately Wellcum is too far now. Maybe next August.
I am considering a January visit also as I hear it can get crowded during that time also. And I believe there surely was more than 60 girls the days I was there in August. 80 would be my guess. Receptionist said 90. Rooster said 88 present at the time. Now it is down to 66 girls present, so perhaps now it is 60 girls there. Quite a few girls there were only working a few hours I recall, or they were stuck in the room very long so I perhaps only saw them once in a day. Maybe that's why the impression you had of only 60 girls in August.
Clubs always say more girls than for real. I didn't notice girls stay for long time in room, I think my Eve was one of the busiest with some long time rooms, and unfortunately on Sunday evening, so a bad end for us, maybe it was better, not to think to return with so many kilometers. I saw some beauties like Maya or Adela or Tara or a cute small blond sitting on couch close to restaurant, not busy, when they would be the prettiest at Sharks or Oase. Natalia was not always so busy. I don t think most of Italians, because Wellcum is a Italian club where staff speak to you in Italian, not German, have many long time rooms, when, according to girls, they are not so demanding for kissing, why many girls don t kiss. I was lucky my third try was a dreamed kisser Eve, even 2 first kissed but not fluently enough.
I miss Zoncolan and Dolomiti for Stelvio, Gavia and Mortirolo, even 2 sides of Mont Ventoux are waiting for me very soon, for my pleasure. Brothels WGs can t compete with mountains attraction for skiing or bicycle climbings.
Depends on what you consider to be a long room. Saw some girls getting 1. 5 HR and 2 HR rooms. But perhaps not longer than that. I did count the girls by the way. On the Monday day after you left I counted to about 72-75. And I always leave out a few. That was the busiest day for me, but the next day I saw some 5-7 new girls.
I spent 4 days at Wellcum to prepare Zoncolan. On Friday and Saturday, had to stop because of rain, then lack of grip for rear wheel on 25% climbing, third try was the good one, like at Wellcum to find my Eve.
Long time room is over 1 hour. I saw mostly 30 mn rooms with many girls like ex Roxana Sharks turning around. My Eve had 2 h, 3 h, 4 h rooms, when I had only 6 1 h rooms with her in 4 days. We didn't have our last one on Sunday evening.
[QUOTE=Itponaus;2080111]You are right, but average age of girls is now lower than one or two years ago. About 300 girls exchanged in Wellcum during last 16 months and new entries are mostly younger than girls who left the club.[/QUOTE]Yeah I feel it is a bit unfortunate to some degree that some of the 27-30+- girls left. I bumped into 2 excellent girls in german FKK's this past 12 months who had just left Wellcum when I met them (Wellcum names: Kathy and Nicole (Not the current Wellcum Nicole, as I think she is very tall, but a petite brunette at 1.56 cm). Both saying the competition from younger girls was growing larger at Wellcum. Pity though since I probably would have gone with both of them a Wellcum if they had stayed.
[QUOTE=MikeTk1974;2079394]Wellcum is not a FKK club. Not all gals are fully naked. Anyway, casting is stronger than Oase and Sharks. And it also higher than GT at Vienna in optics. Few stunners are found early. I cannot reach them late. My favourite is hot naked body shape with natural big boobs and pretty juicy ass. Today some top still be reached at Oase and Shark. Pickup 1 HR (140 E) must provide hot horny satisfaction. I have taken two sessions. They have a hot body shape with pretty juicy ass, but silicone tits not in good shape. Anyway I must repeat at next summer.[/QUOTE]A latest report about Wellcum from Croatian local media perhaps a marketing.
[URL]https://vijesti.rtl.hr/potraga/2731171/hrvatima-najpopularniji-bordel-samo-za-potragu-otvorio-vrata-muskarci-ovdje-mogu-dobiti-sve-sto-pozele-ovo-je-bolji-oblik-varanja-od-ljubavnica/[/URL]
Fortunately girls were prettier in August than on video. I saw some dancing on the bar, but not at the pole close to stairs to rooms.
Some interesting girls answers: I do this for money. No other job to make so big money.
My family don t know about what I do. Where do come so big, so fast money? No internet, no information about prostitution in Romania?
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2093220]Fortunately girls were prettier in August than on video. I saw some dancing on the bar, but not at the pole close to stairs to rooms.
Some interesting girls answers: I do this for money. No other job to make so big money.
My family don t know about what I do. Where do come so big, so fast money? No internet, no information about prostitution in Romania?[/QUOTE]They have made this video report before or after working hours when no clients were around so I guess most of the girls were not around too + rest of them didn't want to be a part of this report.
I think the line up is always very good in Wellcum, especially weekends. So I do not think this video describes the real picture at the moment since it was made to attract more clients for Ex-yu countries (Croatia, Serbia, Bosnia), this is more like a marketing video.
[QUOTE=Darster;2093381]They have made this video report before or after working hours when no clients were around so I guess most of the girls were not around too + rest of them didn't want to be a part of this report.
I think the line up is always very good in Wellcum, especially weekends. So I do not think this video describes the real picture at the moment since it was made to attract more clients for Ex-yu countries (Croatia, Serbia, Bosnia), this is more like a marketing video.[/QUOTE]I don't know how is the casting in Autumn, it was good in August, but for attractive video, they should have shown beauties like Maya, red hair Daria, Tara, and some others, but as say girls, their family don't know about their job, difficult to believe. Working in a bar or a restaurant is very well paid in Germany or Austria.
This Ruby girl: 'Its normal'.
I suppose she is right. Also interesting that they are even asking about how girls can start working there. As if they want to recruit croatian girls, and not only attract croatian men.
I see all the 11 girls I remember the names of from August at the italian sister site are still losted in the lineup. But there are tons of new girls there on the roster now, so they must have removed alot of names. I am guessing the location makes it so they feel the blunt of seasons more than in the middle of a big city. And so they need to market themselves not to loose more girls.
It is a crazy turnover rate if MP is right regarding the number of girls having worked there the past few years.
I feel most girls in all FKKs and sauna clubs I have been to are somewhat happier when the amenities are better, the food is good and healthy and everything is clean. Sure money is the most important for them, but several girls I have talked to say they want to just visit other clubs to hang out at the facilities for a day or two as well. Then the money comes second hand and they see these days as a break or vacation from their usual club. So this is not as black and white as many sometimes put it. Wellcum probably has the best facilities I have been to also.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2093429]I don't know how is the casting in Autumn, it was good in August, but for attractive video, they should have shown beauties like Maya, red hair Daria, Tara, and some others, but as say girls, their family don't know about their job, difficult to believe. Working in a bar or a restaurant is very well paid in Germany or Austria.[/QUOTE]I think beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Only Daria I remember as a top girl among those you mention. I could have named 10 other names above your other 2, but each have our own favorites. Ayleen (I don't think she was working in Aug. When I was there) sounds like a sweet girl to me from these 3 in the video, and about as pretty as Daria, but I don't know if they wanted to pick the top girls for beauty here. They probably just wanted girls who were willing to be interviewed on the subject and had the time for it.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2093882]I think beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Only Daria I remember as a top girl among those you mention. I could have named 10 other names above your other 2, but each have our own favorites. Ayleen (I don't think she was working in Aug. When I was there) sounds like a sweet girl to me from these 3 in the video, and about as pretty as Daria, but I don't know if they wanted to pick the top girls for beauty here. They probably just wanted girls who were willing to be interviewed on the subject and had the time for it.[/QUOTE]Maya, even with silicon and few tattoos, claiming to be from Debrecen. Hu, sitting on left to stairs to rooms, is a real beauty for me, but not kissing. She was my first target.
Same for a very pretty brunette sitting close to her, who also said not kissing, but when she noticed I was always going with same girl, she was Ok for kissing. We played about this, but not so fresh breathe. Very pretty for me, and my second target, even I forgot her name.
I discovered my great GFE Eve only later, no need to name her, because only matter of tastes.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2094535]Same for a very pretty brunette sitting close to her, who also said not kissing, but when she noticed I was always going with same girl, she was Ok for kissing. We played about this, but not so fresh breathe. Very pretty for me, and my second target, even I forgot her name.[/QUOTE]Yes I noticed this too. Some smart girls at Wellcum. Quite a few say no kissing when others can hear them. Then they kiss like crazy once in the room. Obviously trying to get repeats. It allways struck me as odd how this practice doesn't seem to be as widespread in every club. Basically the girls talk among themselves about holding back on kissing. But the smart ones screw over the fools who gets left with no repeats. LOL! I loved this side of Wellcum.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2073341]I was at Wellcum 3 days on August 2016 and 4 days from 10 to 13 August, with Ferragosto party on Saturday 12, but never noticed your Cassandra. There were about 60 girls on Friday and Saturday.
Pistons, do you know Cassandra?
Maybe can call or mail Wellcum.
[/QUOTE]Great news. Rediscovered Cassandra again yesterday. Her second day at a new club with a new cub name beginning with 'D'. The bad news is she is no longer at Wellcum but in Switzerland. Hence access to her is now more expensive.
SirIoja, I think you will like her. Just think of a younger and hotter version of Kate / Catalina. If you need a Kate / Catalina replacement, she is is right up there in terms of looks, body type and service.
Also, I was at Wellcum this past weekend for the Mystic party. Line up was fantastic. At least 2 levels above Sharks and 4 levels above Oase at the moment. Supplanted by a recent influx of hot slim new girls trying the club out during the last two months. Met this stunner of a blond called Angie. Romanian but has a Nordic like look with cute upturned nose. B cups, sizzling body. Only caveat is she loves the color of money. All sevices rendered (DFK, DATY, BBBJ, anal) if you're a big spender.
Was told by another slim cutey Daria with the red hair that over 100 girls attended the party. At least half a dozen I could easily fuck. Seems like this is my new 'go to' club now.
Howie.
[QUOTE=Howie;2098397]Also, I was at Wellcum this past weekend for the Mystic party. Line up was fantastic. At least 2 levels above Sharks and 4 levels above Oase at the moment. Supplanted by a recent influx of hot slim new girls trying the club out during the last two months. Met this stunner of a blond called Angie. Romanian but has a Nordic like look with cute upturned nose. B cups, sizzling body. Only caveat is she loves the color of money. All sevices rendered (DFK, DATY, BBBJ, anal) if you're a big spender.[/QUOTE]Angie was my first out of 7 tryouts at Wellcum back in August too actually. She starts early, so I jumped at it as soon as I finished breakfast to get started I recall. Definitely a nice girl who is easy to like. And she always smiles. She kept smiling at me throughout my stay, but its hard to be loyal to one girl in such a club. LOL, so I did feel a bit sad I couldn't just repeat again and again with a few of these girls. There were always something more to try out. LOL!
In the light of recent change in german law on BJ needing to be with condom, Austrian FKK is not so bad.
I went with 4 girls.
Two of them provided BBBJ, DFK, Multiposition fuck, 69 and come in pussy for 70€.
One of them (black one) provided the same as above plus fingering 70€.
One of then was a sharks and ask 20€ extra for DFK and she kindly denied DATY.
Quality of girls is same as Germany. Number of girls is less as it's not the same mega club like the ones in Frankfurt or Stuttgart.
Prices at 70 are at a level where girls should be able to do more than for 50 in Germany. But I can find girls in FKK in Germany that do all for 50. Not anymore is it all girls but you do find them.
Food seems better than in comparable German clubs.
In answer to the personal message the 3 white girls that were sampled were:
Olivia.
RUBY.
Alicia.
I am not skilled to guess the exact number of girls.
Logistically, Wellcum is not near an airport so taxi is out of the question. One will need to drive there by car from Italy or Switzerland.
I think the range number for girls* is between 50 and 80.
There were not so many customers during this week.
So you can pick and fuck without delay.
There is a hotel inside the club. It is 100€ per night. So you can have the room into the club. The rooms are quite comfortable for me.
I would add as cons: the fact that the hotel costs 100€ at night. Good for once in a life, not for regular visits and the fact that if you leave from Milano or Switzerland it takes almost one day by car to get there and same back. It means you arrive at the club very very tired.
One can choose a cheaper hotel near the club as there are several options.
Other points is that for someone visiting this area just for paid sex where there are only two clubs, then this is not comparable with Germany if you focus on say NRW or Hessen area.
Entrance is comparatively high at 85€.
In summary:
Pros:
No german law on banning BBBJ.
Several girls available.
Line up is middle-high level.
Food is better than De.
Hotel available inside.
Cons:
Not near the airport or the customer bases of Switzerland and Lombardy.
Full of italian customers.
English skills are lower than De because they are suitable for Italians.
Rumenian are the majority.
Well, I met a girl there who took a taxi to Klagenfurt airport. It is 61 km away according to Google. But it is probably not the biggest airport in the world with the best and cheapest fares.
There is Wellcum, Andiamo and a smaller place called casa Carinthia near villach. Then you can drive to Marina FKK in Slovenia in 1 h and 45 min too.
As expensive as it is though, I will go back. I wonder if you were just unlucky with the lineup. Out of my 7 girls, I only see one (Natali) listed as present at the club on Veniamo right now. So I am guessing without having seen the replacements that I wouldn't have been as impressed as I was in August either.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2101519]Well, I met a girl there who took a taxi to Klagenfurt airport. It is 61 km away according to Google. But it is probably not the biggest airport in the world with the best and cheapest fares.
There is Wellcum, Andiamo and a smaller place called casa Carinthia near villach. Then you can drive to Marina FKK in Slovenia in 1 h and 45 min too.
As expensive as it is though, I will go back. I wonder if you were just unlucky with the lineup. Out of my 7 girls, I only see one (Natali) listed as present at the club on Veniamo right now. So I am guessing without having seen the replacements that I wouldn't have been as impressed as I was in August either.[/QUOTE]I think you have read too much in my list of cons.
I was suitably satisfied with the line up and like many others are looking for alternatives to Germany with the covered BJ ban become so prevalent.
The club is well attended by clientele but not at the time I went which was midweek. A weekend visit will see a higher customer base.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;2101601]I think you have read too much in my list of cons.
I was suitably satisfied with the line up and like many others are looking for alternatives to Germany with the covered BJ ban become so prevalent.
The club is well attended by clientele but not at the time I went which was midweek. A weekend visit will see a higher customer base.[/QUOTE]Well, actually I read your once in a life comment. But perhaps that was just about the hotel.
For me I haven't really seen Germany decline as badly as some on here have said. Oase has declined a lot lately for me, but aside from that I haven't felt it with the other clubs. At least not yet. But it is nice to see alternatives for sure. Even the girls are looking for alternatives like the one girl who knows who I am. Everything gets boring when you have seen it too often. Especially walls, floors, tables and chairs. Perhaps even more so for the girls considering how much women decorate their own homes. LOL!
When it comes to Italian men or Romanian women I don't see that as a con though. At least not more than American men or British men or French men. And Romanian women are fantastic. It can only be detrimental if you get the wrong type of groups forming, but it has nothing to do with them being Romanian, its just a monoculture thing.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2101736]Well, actually I read your once in a life comment. But perhaps that was just about the hotel.
For me I haven't really seen Germany decline as badly as some on here have said. Oase has declined a lot lately for me, but aside from that I haven't felt it with the other clubs. At least not yet. But it is nice to see alternatives for sure. Even the girls are looking for alternatives like the one girl who knows who I am. Everything gets boring when you have seen it too often. Especially walls, floors, tables and chairs. Perhaps even more so for the girls considering how much women decorate their own homes. LOL![/QUOTE]My once in a life comment was staying in the hotel in Wellcum. You would not always do it as there is cheaper places elsewhere.
But the alternative is driving a long way from Italy or Switzerland to get to the Wellcum club as there is no near airports except say Klagenfurt which is not the most frequented of airports.
Last time we did it was for the New Years Eve party which was a mess so it was great to have a room to retire to with a girl.
I don't really see why one would fly to and drive from Switzerland. Why would you? That is really far yes.
For me the best is to fly to Salzburg. I have direct flight there. 2 h and 11 min away from Wellcum. But Venice is another option. 2 h and 14 min. Then again you'd get to those pesky Italian toll highways adding up the cost.
Vienna airport is another high frequency airport option, but 3 h 50 min away. Same goes for Munich at 4 h 14 min away. Or wizzair to Budapest which is basically a free flight sometimes if you stay in Europe, and drive from there even though it is a bit further. Hungarian highways are good though. You can also fly to the less frequented airports in Ljubljana just 1 h away too, or Graz 2 h away, or Zagreb 2 h 50 min away.
On the night from Thursday to Friday I visited club Wellcum, and I met girl which I forgot name. She said that she is listed on the web.
This info I have:
- black hair, long.
- nationality Italian, south of Italy, Messina.
- very pretty.
- 36 years old.
- tatoo on left shoulder blade.
Girl is really fantastic so if anyone knows her artistic name or link to web page I would appreciate to share it.
Additionally is it possible to check if girl is available for the night and in which club?
[QUOTE=Rbalboa156;2104936]On the night from Thursday to Friday I visited club Wellcum, and I met girl which I forgot name. She said that she is listed on the web.
This info I have:
- black hair, long.
- nationality Italian, south of Italy, Messina.
- very pretty.
- 36 years old.
- tatoo on left shoulder blade.
Girl is really fantastic so if anyone knows her artistic name or link to web page I would appreciate to share it.
Additionally is it possible to check if girl is available for the night and in which club?[/QUOTE]I saw her on August, very hot behavior, tanned skin, I think to remember silicon, but I didn't go with her, even she seems to be the fire.
Some Wellcum girls proposed me to spend the night with me at hotel, but when You can have sex all night with a real girlfriend, prostitutes want to sleep at night. I don t need to sleep with a prostitute when I was sleeping with my bicycle when I visited Wellcum.
Just saw they are having a discount now 4 weeks in a row on Mondays, Tuesdays and Wednesdays. Entry at 69 euro. I cannot help but think hey are doing it because of the competition from Marina who has had lower entry rates on the same days for a long time. But I am guessing they are testing it out first to see if has any economic merit for the club.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2107640]Just saw they are having a discount now 4 weeks in a row on Mondays, Tuesdays and Wednesdays. Entry at 69 euro. I cannot help but think hey are doing it because of the competition from Marina who has had lower entry rates on the same days for a long time. But I am guessing they are testing it out first to see if has any economic merit for the club.[/QUOTE]This is not the first test. Between second half of September and in October entry fee was 70, but only with a voucher. Recipients of Wellcum newsletter had free entry on Monday, 2nd of October.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2098762]Angie was my first out of 7 tryouts at Wellcum back in August too actually.[/QUOTE]Hey Piston,
How would you compare Angie to Eleny from Oceans in terms of optics? Angie has that 'IT' factor for me and I'm heading back to Wellcum later this week to fuck her again.
Been tempted to try out Oceans again but only if Eleny is there and if she is as hot as Angie.
By the way, do you know if Eleny is back at Oceans?
Howie.
[QUOTE=Howie;2110803]Hey Piston,
How would you compare Angie to Eleny from Oceans in terms of optics? Angie has that 'IT' factor for me and I'm heading back to Wellcum later this week to fuck her again.
Been tempted to try out Oceans again but only if Eleny is there and if she is as hot as Angie.
By the way, do you know if Eleny is back at Oceans?
Howie.[/QUOTE]Eleny reminds me of Ariana Grande. If you like the looks of Ariana Grande, I think you'd like Eleny. As for other top lookers at Oceans these days, Andra, Alina, Emmanuela and Raluca maybe are the other top girls in optics (all blonde except Alina, but she has amazing hips and smile). Some girls optics change a bit over time though. Seen some girls both loose and gain a bit weight over the past year there. I'd rate all these top 5 optics girls at Oceans same level as Angie, and perhaps slightly above on some days (day form is important as well as lingerie choices).
Then again I'd rate Ivet (perhaps top body), Nicole, Elisa, Valentina (too bad she doesn't kiss), Isabelle, perhaps Desiree and the fantastic Natali as just as hot as Angie. Same goes for Nia who looks better in room while having sex than in lounge. And that was just among the girls I saw in August, which was perhaps half the total rooster if you include girls having joined since then, and some who were on vacation. In addition some other girls there like Stephani and Ailin has beautiful faces too.
(Just to give you an idea on my preferences).
Angie does have that upturned nose and a bit unconventional hip shape. Not sure which girl she would remind me the most of. Maybe Raluca or Andra (or Andra's friend) at Oceans has some of that, but not the nose and not quite the same hips. Angie is not 100% my type, but she's a stunner for sure. Someone I could grow into liking, or dayform based. I do like the petite factor of Angie though and her positive vibe. Maybe has a bit of a French vibe. Her face, just that she is platinum blonde. I think you'd like Aksena at Artemis too maybe, and Silvia at Sharks among others. Also a few of the YY girls. Especially Michaela and perhaps her friend. (Andrea at Artemis 3-4 years ago reminds me the most of Angie, but she quit).
Then again, personality and chemistry is just as important as looks. Both needs to click.
Some pretty posh pictures in their new 2018 calendar. With some of their hot girls like Angie, Nia, Daria, Lorena, Ilinka, Lena, Ailin etc featured a lot.
I especially love the November picture where Nia and Angie is having some cake fun.
Damn I want to return to both those two girls there now.
A little bit of humor makes the trick.
Looks like a new saunaclub will be opened in Villach next summer.
When I was checking out other FB pages, got this in suggested pages - [URL]https://www.facebook.com/lavita.villach/[/URL].
There are already some pictures but there are not any details, it says only that they are opening in summer of 2018.
If this is true, a new competitor won't be good especially for Andiamo in Villach.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2123198]I especially love the November picture where Nia and Angie is having some cake fun.
[/QUOTE]Mine is the June picture with Angie and Cassandra. A threesome with them would be mind blowing.
Howie.
Beginning of the year I found Wellcum to be surprisingly well attended and a good line-up of girls, too.
My favourite was Ruby who I couldn't resist after her bar stage dance. She was in GT in Vienna too a few years ago. Wellcum suits her better.
I am not even sure the management expected this. I asked a month ago how busy mid January would be, and was told to not expect more than 50-60 girls around. The list now says 73. Which is a quite strong number.
Maybe the recent adverticements has paid off. Or it could be a result of the german regulations giving wellcum a boost.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2125831]I am not even sure the management expected this. I asked a month ago how busy mid January would be, and was told to not expect more than 50-60 girls around. The list now says 73. Which is a quite strong number.
Maybe the recent adverticements has paid off. Or it could be a result of the german regulations giving wellcum a boost.[/QUOTE]Which recent advertisements?
I don't it will last for very much longer. January is bad everywhere and won't be good in Wellcum either for that long and clearly not too feed 70+ hungry sexworkers.
[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2126100]Which recent advertisements?
I don't it will last for very much longer. January is bad everywhere and won't be good in Wellcum either for that long and clearly not too feed 70+ hungry sexworkers.[/QUOTE]Well, there was that video in the Croatian magazine, and they got banners up on more forums. I also heard a rumour when I was there that the German owner wanted to market the club more towards Germans also. Not sure how that went though.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2127409]Well, there was that video in the Croatian magazine, and they got banners up on more forums. I also heard a rumour when I was there that the German owner wanted to market the club more towards Germans also. Not sure how that went though.[/QUOTE]Makes sense. They are absolute pros, they can pull also off that more Germans come, however paying an extra 20 per session won't be too enticing for our spoiled German friends. LOL
[QUOTE=Pistons;2127409]Well, there was that video in the Croatian magazine, and they got banners up on more forums. I also heard a rumour when I was there that the German owner wanted to market the club more towards Germans also. Not sure how that went though.[/QUOTE]Wellcum is located for Italians, not for Germans. Wellcum staff don't even speak German in Austria. Italians have only more expensive escorts to compete with Wellcum, so 70 € are not expensive for them. Germans have many 50 € or less, clubs, and most of Germans are stuck to their local club. Italian business is higher than German business, without turkish at night, more and more numerous, most of German clubs would close. Many girls who worked in Germany, moved to Wellcum for better business, with Italians. Many Germans just want to pay 50, many Italians love women and are ready to pay for.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2127681]Wellcum is located for Italians, not for Germans. Wellcum staff don't even speak German in Austria. Italians have only more expensive escorts to compete with Wellcum, so 70 are not expensive for them. Germans have many 50 or less, clubs, and most of Germans are stuck to their local club. Italian business is higher than German business, without turkish at night, more and more numerous, most of German clubs would close. Many girls who worked in Germany, moved to Wellcum for better business, with Italians. Many Germans just want to pay 50, many Italians love women and are ready to pay for.[/QUOTE]I agree with you except for the part with the Wellcum staff not speaking German. They speak flawless German, each and every one of them they I ever met did. In Andiamo, though, that was kinda different a few years ago.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2127681]Wellcum is located for Italians, not for Germans. Wellcum staff don't even speak German in Austria. Italians have only more expensive escorts to compete with Wellcum, so 70 are not expensive for them. Germans have many 50 or less, clubs, and most of Germans are stuck to their local club. Italian business is higher than German business, without turkish at night, more and more numerous, most of German clubs would close. Many girls who worked in Germany, moved to Wellcum for better business, with Italians. Many Germans just want to pay 50, many Italians love women and are ready to pay for.[/QUOTE]I agree. Clubs and bars around Villach, Innsbruck or in Tessin in Switzerland prosper on Italian guests. Germans will probably not come to Austria just to visit Wellcum. Reasons you have mentioned already.
But I think that advertising of Wellcum in Germany is not throwing money away. Germans represented more than a half of foreign guests in Carinthia (by arrival) in summer season last year. A lot of Germans come every year to European Bike Week, VW Golf GTI Meeting.
[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2127774]I agree with you except for the part with the Wellcum staff not speaking German. They speak flawless German, each and every one of them they I ever met did. In Andiamo, though, that was kinda different a few years ago.[/QUOTE]I suppose that members of Wellcum staff, who communicate with customers, must speak fluently German and Italian at least. I can't confirm it, because I am not an Austrian nor an Italian. They are not native Austrians mostly, but this not an exception.
Well the owner of Wellcum is apparently a German. So it makes sense on that regard. He should know his home country.
[QUOTE=Itponaus;2127782]I agree. Clubs and bars around Villach, Innsbruck or in Tessin in Switzerland prosper on Italian guests. Germans will probably not come to Austria just to visit Wellcum. Reasons you have mentioned already.
But I think that advertising of Wellcum in Germany is not throwing money away. Germans represented more than a half of foreign guests in Carinthia (by arrival) in summer season last year. A lot of Germans come every year to European Bike Week, VW Golf GTI Meeting.[/QUOTE]Through Gottard for Milanese, or through San Bernardino for Torino, Italians go to many Swiss clubs.
At Wellcum, when you arrive, desk speak to you in Italian. Except Hungarian Natali who worked before in Paradise Sarrebrucken crowded with French Arabs, I was the first French guy for my girls at Wellcum, not for ex Roxana silicon Sharks nor ex Beatrice LR of course but I didn't go with them, and much more demanding for real French kissing than Italians.
When is bike week in wonderful Carinthia? Do they go to difficult climbing to the high altitude lake? 3 days spent on Zoncolan. It on August because of rain, could climb only on third try, getting enough grip for rear wheel, then my Romanian, queen of pillow, Eve couldn t understand every day I left at 3 pm after saying I didn't want to cum, and was back about 8 pm. So unfortunately had no time to go to climb to the lake, because many other famous mountains were waiting for my passion in France.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2128312]Well the owner of Wellcum is apparently a German. So it makes sense on that regard. He should know his home country.[/QUOTE]He should buy Oase and sell Wellcum to Mauro.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2128709]Through Gottard for Milanese, or through San Bernardino for Torino, Italians go to many Swiss clubs.
At Wellcum, when you arrive, desk speak to you in Italian. Except Hungarian Natali who worked before in Paradise Sarrebrucken crowded with French Arabs, I was the first French guy for my girls at Wellcum, not for ex Roxana silicon Sharks nor ex Beatrice LR of course but I didn't go with them, and much more demanding for real French kissing than Italians.
When is bike week in wonderful Carinthia? Do they go to difficult climbing to the high altitude lake? 3 days spent on Zoncolan. It on August because of rain, could climb only on third try, getting enough grip for rear wheel, then my Romanian, queen of pillow, Eve couldn t understand every day I left at 3 pm after saying I didn't want to cum, and was back about 8 pm. So unfortunately had no time to go to climb to the lake, because many other famous mountains were waiting for my passion in France.[/QUOTE]The Wellcum personnel usually starts communication in Italian language, because most of customers are Italians. But they are mosty not Austrians as in other pubs and restaurants.
The next (Harley Davidson) bike week at Faaker See will be held on 4-9 September 2018. Bikers don't have to climb there. I am not s biker, but mountaineer. I walked to Dobratsch about here (as I marked at the last Wellcum calendar).
They never spoke Italian to me (since I don't look Italian at all probably). I believe they tried with German first, but then moved over to fluent English. So I suppose they are trilingual.
I am not sure I agree on the idea regarding Germans spending in FKK's. Sure 90% of Germans just go to a local place and prefer it to be as cheap as possible. Who wouldn't? But as soon as they have time and the possibility, Germans travels like the rest of us also. I have come to known especially many Berlin Germans who say they sometimes grow tired of only artemis over and over. One even being an employer at Artemis, who also visits Sharks or Palace he said in his spare time when he could. So they go to hessen and NRW also. For pure variety. I've even met 2 different artemis regulars at sharks and oase. And one of them used to frequent phg and vv for many years when he got bored of Artemis ad nauseum. Maybe Berlin is different from the rest of Germany. But the wellcum owner was a berliner also I believe.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2128998]They never spoke Italian to me (since I don't look Italian at all probably). I believe they tried with German first, but then moved over to fluent English. So I suppose they are trilingual.[/QUOTE]Of course, desk can speak German or English, but Italian is first language at Wellcum. Everything is written in Italian.
Italians make work the club, not few Austrians nor Germans.
In Germany, when Germans know I drive to Hamburg, NRW, Frankfurt and Switzerland, from Paris, they look at me like a alien. When it snows they don t even go to their local club, I keep on driving to my weekly regulars.
But honestly, if I didn't go to climb Zoncolan, I would not drive to Wellcum, too difficult to go there, like I also don't go to Artemis, too far.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2129446]Italians make work the club, not few Austrians nor Germans.[/QUOTE]Of Course, when 90% of the clientele is Italian, it's by far used the most. And most personnel are also Italian. But one of the receptionists did seem very Austrian to me. But I could be wrong.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2129446]But honestly, if I didn't go to climb Zoncolan, I would not drive to Wellcum, too difficult to go there, like I also don't go to Artemis, too far.[/QUOTE]Well Paris. Hamburg is a 9 hour drive. I can get to Wellcum in 5 hours 20 min from my place where I live. Just adding in 25 min wait at airport carey on, 15 min to pick up rental car and 2 HR flight. 2 HR 20 min drive in Austria. And 20 min to get to my airport. So when drives go beyond 5-6 hours, its really faster to swap in a flight.
I get to Artemis in 3 HR 40 min. And that's even including a 50 min s bahn. Which if I want can be switched with a 20 min taxi ride and make it 3 HR 20 min.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2129647]Well Paris. Hamburg is a 9 hour drive. I can get to Wellcum in 5 hours 20 min from my place where I live. Just adding in 25 min wait at airport carey on, 15 min to pick up rental car and 2 HR flight. 2 HR 20 min drive in Austria. And 20 min to get to my airport. So when drives go beyond 5-6 hours, its really faster to swap in a flight.
I get to Artemis in 3 HR 40 min. And that's even including a 50 min s bahn. Which if I want can be switched with a 20 min taxi ride and make it 3 HR 20 min.[/QUOTE]North Paris to South Hamburg through Deüsseldorf and Bremen is less than 8 hours on easy autobahns, when not too many works in Germany. At night, can be 7 h30 .
When I'm around Bormio for Mortirolo, 2 Stelvio and Gavia, my Summer playfield, and I say to my Italian friends I will drive through Dolomiti, only to go to climb Zoncolan, about 400 kms, but more than 5 hours through mountains, they say I'm crazy to go for a so long drive and to climb Zoncolan, when professionals ask not to climb anymore in Giro. 1 hour more to Wellcum but great curves on motorway around Tarvisio.
Not so difficult for me to drive to Hamburg where I know I can find sometimes German beauties, very difficult to drive to Wellcum. Austrian autobahns are nightmare around Salzburg. Many Wellcum girls, used to Italians, don't really fluent kiss, fortunately I found a passionate Romanian Eve, even I missed splendid Ina. Ro not there, that's why I stayed 4 days with 6 rooms with my Eve. Only her, after first day when she was my third girl.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2129791]. Austrian autobahns are nightmare around Salzburg.[/QUOTE]Is it more nightmarish than the Autostrada near Milano? I once got stuck on that autostrada and lost a whopping 4 HR just due to what I was told was 'normal rush hour traffic.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2129903]Is it more nightmarish than the Autostrada near Milano? I once got stuck on that autostrada and lost a whopping 4 HR just due to what I was told was 'normal rush hour traffic.[/QUOTE]I drive quite often on autostrada, from Tarvisio to Como, Aosta or Bardonecchia, through Milano I visit for escorts and Torino, autostrada and gas are very expensive in Italy, but I'm faster than in Germany for average speed.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2130049]I drive quite often on autostrada, from Tarvisio to Como, Aosta or Bardonecchia, through Milano I visit for escorts and Torino, autostrada and gas are very expensive in Italy, but I'm faster than in Germany for average speed.[/QUOTE]I believe that due to german roadworks. But the autostrada and ring road going east / west north of Milan is famous for traffic jams. Looks constantly dark red on my google maps also.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2130293]I believe that due to german roadworks. But the autostrada and ring road going east / west north of Milan is famous for traffic jams. Looks constantly dark red on my google maps also.[/QUOTE]For sure, Germans are world champions for works on autobahns. Everywhere. Need to brake hard and have to change my brakes discs after only 90 000 kms. My car brand services don t understand what happen.
Hi guys,
Grateful if someone can let me know which are the FKK days in Circolo Passion in Innsbruck. Thanks.
Howie: comparing Oceans lineup to Wellcum can work with the top girls actually. There are just more of these top girls at Wellcum in average. At oceans you have at most 10 girls the same level as top 25-30 at Wellcum . I did meet one girl at Oceans who used to work at Wellcum though. She apparently left Wellcum due to the competition there from younger girls among other things. She didn't stay long at oceans though unfortunately. Two other ex Oceans girls have found their way from oceans to Wellcum. One I met in August. A blonde white skinned girl always wearing a black collar on her neck, and now Iren who was at Samya after Oceans is also at Wellcum . So the two clubs does attract some of the same type of girls.
Management and clientèle is different though.
[QUOTE=Darster;2123600]Looks like a new saunaclub will be opened in Villach next summer.
When I was checking out other FB pages, got this in suggested pages - [URL]https://www.facebook.com/lavita.villach/[/URL].
There are already some pictures but there are not any details, it says only that they are opening in summer of 2018.
If this is true, a new competitor won't be good especially for Andiamo in Villach.[/QUOTE]Might mean we could be looking forward to reduced entry rates going forward. But I fear the lineups can get more split between the clubs too. And is really the market strong enough for 3 big clubs in this area? Plus they also compete with Marina for the Italians. It surely doesn't seem like the market is big enough at the moment. But they see how much money the clubs make I suppose, and this is how it goes with a free market.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2142555]Howie: comparing Oceans lineup to Wellcum can work with the top girls actually. There are just more of these top girls at Wellcum in average. At oceans you have at most 10 girls the same level as top 25-30 at Wellcum . I did meet one girl at Oceans who used to work at Wellcum though. She apparently left Wellcum due to the competition there from younger girls among other things. She didn't stay long at oceans though unfortunately. Two other ex Oceans girls have found their way from oceans to Wellcum. One I met in August. A blonde white skinned girl always wearing a black collar on her neck, and now Iren who was at Samya after Oceans is also at Wellcum . So the two clubs does attract some of the same type of girls.
Management and clientle is different though.[/QUOTE]For my eyes, last August Wellcum casting was so far higher than at Oceans for all my visits, even when I saw superb EMA. De, so sexy body Sofia. Ro and Simona. Ro on same Thursday night in February 2017 at Oceans, but not kissing girls.
For my eyes, only Globe can compete, I also saw a great History. Ch casting with 5 really attractive girls. GT or YY when on top for casting can be not so far, Oase also. Sharks casting can t compete since a long while, even most numerous girls, but quantity is not quality.
Maybe I just didn't pay attention here before, but did Andiamo just increase their opening time? Now they are open from 12 to 2 am, and 4 am on Fridays and Saturdays. Making them stay open 30 min or 1 hour longer than Wellcum. Still they have much left to close the gap with some of the German clubs like Oase however, which is open from 10 am to 4 am on sun-Tues., and 5 am from wed-sat. Which is 18 and 19 hours. Wellcum on the other hand is just open 13.5 hours and 15 hours only 2 days a week, making it more stressful to get that 3rd or even 4th session of the day in.
Or compared to places like 18 sauna in Macau where the club is open 24/7 with girls being around for 20 hours a day. From about 10 am to 6 am.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2149284]Maybe I just didn't pay attention here before, but did Andiamo just increase their opening time? Now they are open from 12 to 2 am, and 4 am on Fridays and Saturdays. Making them stay open 30 min or 1 hour longer than Wellcum. Still they have much left to close the gap with some of the German clubs like Oase however, which is open from 10 am to 4 am on sun-Tues., and 5 am from wed-sat. Which is 18 and 19 hours. Wellcum on the other hand is just open 13.5 hours and 15 hours only 2 days a week, making it more stressful to get that 3rd or even 4th session of the day in.[/QUOTE]Oase is open until 5 am only from Thursday to Saturday, not on Wednesday.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2149407]Oase is open until 5 am only from Thursday to Saturday, not on Wednesday.[/QUOTE]I don't think its long ago since they changed that also actually. But they do have open till 5 on wednesdays now. Just check their website:
Sonntag Dienstag 10:00 04:00 Uhr.
Mittwoch Samstag 10:00 05:00 Uhr.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2146570]Might mean we could be looking forward to reduced entry rates going forward. But I fear the lineups can get more split between the clubs too. And is really the market strong enough for 3 big clubs in this area? Plus they also compete with Marina for the Italians. It surely doesn't seem like the market is big enough at the moment. But they see how much money the clubs make I suppose, and this is how it goes with a free market.[/QUOTE]In my opinion there's no room for another FKK in that area. Wellcum has already destroyed Andiamo and is currently the winner. A new club (even with different prices) won't become a game changer or a force like Wellcum.
Also, cheaper prices don't necessarily mean a good thing, as we've seen with Funpalast, which is now cheap and still not even close in terms of quality nor quantity.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2149437]I don't think its long ago since they changed that also actually. But they do have open till 5 on wednesdays now. Just check their website:
Sonntag Dienstag 10:00 04:00 Uhr.
Mittwoch Samstag 10:00 05:00 Uhr.[/QUOTE]Mistake on website. Ask Oase desk.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;2101506]In answer to the personal message the 3 white girls that were sampled were:
Olivia.
RUBY.
Alicia.
I am not skilled to guess the exact number of girls.
Logistically, Wellcum is not near an airport so taxi is out of the question. One will need to drive there by car from Italy or Switzerland.
I think the range number for girls* is between 50 and 80.
There were not so many customers during this week..[/QUOTE]Would any regulars to Wellcum, be able to tell me if any African or Caribbean ladies are present, I know, if there are they may not be present when I visit in June, but just wondering, they are my preferred types, but not only. Thank you for your help.
[QUOTE=ExtraFuel;2151612]Would any regulars to Wellcum, be able to tell me if any African or Caribbean ladies are present, I know, if there are they may not be present when I visit in June, but just wondering, they are my preferred types, but not only. Thank you for your help.[/QUOTE]They do have a couple of dark girls there. The most famous and popular is Gloria, I think, is her name. Most girls are in awe of her money-making abilities. Easy to spot, she's the one with Swarovski stones all over her nipples. She claims to be Venezuelian, if I remember correctly.
[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2151855]They do have a couple of dark girls there. The most famous and popular is Gloria, I think, is her name. Most girls are in awe of her money-making abilities. Easy to spot, she's the one with Swarovski stones all over her nipples. She claims to be Venezuelian, if I remember correctly.[/QUOTE]Gloria does not look as African or Caribbean, but is white as Romanian girls. She is often dressed similar as other girls (without Swarovski stones).
[QUOTE=Itponaus;2152012]Gloria does not look as African or Caribbean, but is white as Romanian girls. She is often dressed similar as other girls (without Swarovski stones).[/QUOTE]Then I mean another girl with another name. The one who I described is as white as dark chocolate.
[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2152241]Then I mean another girl with another name. The one who I described is as white as dark chocolate.[/QUOTE]I know only one Gloria, who is very popular and who occasionally wears Swarovski jewellery. This fits to your description, so I still think we are talking about the same person, only for me is white as European girls. Here are not allowed links to photos on other sites, but if you will open the Wellcum web site, then Gallery and scroll down to the last row, you will see Gloria on the second photo from left. She is the second from right with a bottle.
[QUOTE=Itponaus;2152296]I know only one Gloria, who is very popular and who occasionally wears Swarovski jewellery. This fits to your description, so I still think we are talking about the same person, only for me is white as European girls. Here are not allowed links to photos on other sites, but if you will open the Wellcum web site, then Gallery and scroll down to the last row, you will see Gloria on the second photo from left. She is the second from right with a bottle.[/QUOTE]Could be her.
Miss Wellcum contestants are up on Instagram. I do not know more than 5 out of 19, so I am still blank. Who would you vote for here? Given you have 3 votes for example (no idea how it will work).
The girls are:
Luzia.
Nadja.
Nia.
Bella.
Ruby.
Georgiana.
Katy.
Roxana.
Lucia.
Lorena.
Tara.
Soraya.
Crina.
Daria.
Angie.
Cristina.
Samira.
Bridget.
Cindy.
Initially my impression is that about half the field looks very solid, but I need to see some of these girls I don't already know in real life, and not just on pictures too. Like Soraya, Crina, Bridget, Cristina etc. Hope the best will win. LOL.
Pretty Daria red hair for me. My August Eve is not on your list.
Is Roxana ex Sharks with silicon?
Winner was Samira. Runner up was Bella (I think), 3rd was Lorena.
Daria: Miss Dolce.
Nia: Miss Sweet.
Angie: Miss Sexy.
Soraya: Miss Charisma.
Georgiana: Miss Bikini.
Cristina: Miss (something) (same cristina that worked at Oase untill last fall).
Ruby got also a title. But forgot which one. Maybe it was Miss Wellcoin.
Forgot the last one. As I think there was 8 of these, but maybe just 7.
The competition lasted from 20:00 till 01:00. A bit too long perhaps since the contestants were not able to go to the room meanwhile. One girl told me the winner won a month of free entries. 2nd place got 2 weeks etc. So guessing 3rd place perhaps got 1 week.
They had on several different styles of clothes while on stage parading and sometimes doing something extra in line with the theme, such as 2 and 2 girls during the S&M at one part where one was slave and the other one master:
Night dress first, bikinis second, some flowing fluffy stuff connected to their arms in 4 different colors (4-5 girls each color) third, then I think it was S&M fourth (the coolest and sexiest one I felt. And funniest), angelwings (think Victoria secrets) fifth. Perhaps I forgot one also now. And at the end they were dancing on stage a bit. And between each it was 30 min or more or maybe a show with the pornstar Malena, or some acrobats doing stuff.
Went to Welcum a little while back and am just now getting to report my experience.
First, the club has the best facilities of all FKK style clubs that I have visited. The food is superb with variety. The fact that the hotel is attached is an even bigger bonus. What I don't like are the prices compared to German FKKs. 89 E entry is a bit too high especially since the club does not open for very long hours compared to some German ones. Since the club is so far away from any large metro areas, I have no idea how they attract enough clients.
There were over 85 girls the day I went with the casting being top notch. The average girl there was prettier than the average girl at any club I've visited, including Globe in Switzerland.
There were many tall model looking types, at least in their stilts they looked tall and model-like. Ironic that the girls I chose were the shorter ones.
I went with Bulgarian Nia twice that day. First and last rooms were with her. My first room was an hour in the far room on the left. She was wearing some sexy leather boots and a leather top and as soon as she took the top down, I saw those big, beautiful, dark, silicone tits. A bit fake, but nice. In the room, she was passionate and pornstar all in one. I wouldn't call her GFE but she does kiss heavily and reacts well to being fucked. She also is a great rider. On our second room to close the night, I was very excited to fuck her hard but I think I was in bad cardiovascular shape. At one point my chest literally started to hurt and I had to stop and hide my pain from her. Sweat was pouring out. I will return in 3 weeks and will make sure to be in better shape for this one.
My other girl was Ivet from Moldova. She's a petite blond with be size breast. She's a super sweet girl but lacks a little experience and passion She was a step above optifuck for me because she did try hard to please me but she was just too inexperienced and too timid. She kissed but not passionately, she rode but not energetically. The best part of the room with her was our shower at the end where she gave my cock a nice tug while we kissed under the water.
Looking forward to my next trip on Orthodox Easter weekend!
Entry is 85 euro by the way. And according to rumors there will be new rates starting in April. No idea if that means a discount card on multiple entries, reduction on entry on certain times of the week or whatever. We'll probably hear about it soon unless they go back on it.
I know how to drive to there. But is it doable to use public transit and cab to this place? Is it much better than German FKK?
I grew wearied of the FKK scene in Germany and haven't visited a club for nearly one year. I've booked up a visit to Wellcum for April, which will be my first time at the club. I'm hoping to run into Sharks' Roxanna for a familiar start (if she is still at Wellcum), but I am sure that I will find plenty of entertainment even without her.
[QUOTE=Frozty;2156867]I grew wearied of the FKK scene in Germany and haven't visited a club for nearly one year. I've booked up a visit to Wellcum for April, which will be my first time at the club. I'm hoping to run into Sharks' Roxanna for a familiar start (if she is still at Wellcum), but I am sure that I will find plenty of entertainment even without her.[/QUOTE]I thought she went back to Palace several months ago. Only girl I recognized from German FKK's this time was Cristina from Oase.
Report Aug. 17-20th. Wellcum (and review of some girls).
Daria is hot yes. Hotter without high heels though. I get a bit turned of by her high heels as I don't feel they make her body type look better. But without them she looks much better proportionally I feel. Small things matter when competition is so high. I kinda felt she was 5-6th hottest in the show (partly due to the heels).
I was very undecided on my vote. I felt Soraya looked best in night dress. Nia looked best in bikini. 3rd costume was a draw between several girls as it was too sterile I thought. Then Lorena looked best in S&M and Angie best with angel wings. Purely personal views though.
Some other girls would have done very well also if they had participated. Some of the 19 on stage were clearly a notch below the top 7-8 on stage who were more a-class or a- , and girls like Elena, Ivet, Elisa, Amalia and perhaps 5-10 others would have done better than the bottom 10 on stage. So by no means was it an objective competition of the hottest girls I felt. Perhaps management just asked random girls. If Natali and probably a few others had been there also that day, they would have been up there too. I checked the boxes with coins in them at 23.00 as well, and Lorena was leading at the time. But you could buy extra coins, so one or two guys probably highjacked it and moved Samira and Bella ahead. None of which were even top 10 for me.
But it was a cool show, and I guess it doesn't really matter. Either way, I will be going back as the club is growing on me.
I went with 5 girls in 4 days. 8 sessions. 2 times with Elena. 2 times with Amalia. 2 times with Soraya. 1 time with Angie and 1 time with Lorena. Planned on doing 10 sessions, but I was very tired the first 2 days. 3rd day had a weak lineup, and last day I waited a bit too long at deciding on the girl to go with so Lorena and Angie had left. And Ivet / Elena tried to force me into doing a 3 some. Meanwhile Soraya also left and the last girl I considered went to a room and didn't return before at 1:15. This club clearly needs longer opening hours! Especially during weekdays. On Saturday it was fine after the party since they had open till 4, but normally it is just 3 on Saturdays, so that is too soon also.
Elena was holding back on kissing (only 2-3 tiny pats), but promised kissing on 3rd session the last day. Which I have yet to check if she is holding her word on. If not, I will scratch her from my book. She does look like a barbie doll though. Mainly optic on first go. 2nd time I might not have returned with her unless Monday lineup was so bad (sub 40 girls), but she improved a bit the 2nd time.
Amelia has a very cute face. Looks a bit brazillian. Petite, and a sexy body shape. Her hair is a bit crazy wild. She is quite good in the room. Well worth a repeat too. Maybe not a 100% with deep kissing (she kisses well, just not with tongue), but adds to the lineup and is a very sweet and nice girl. 2nd time was also on the bad Monday. It was just her and Elena I considerred that day. And also Nia who apparently were there, but I didn't even see her before 10 min before the club closed. Bad luck.
Soraya is a force of nature. Italian board review compared her with Daria, just that Soraya is a bit more wild and crazy. They are both fake red heads and friends. The title miss charisma was well met. I don't know if it was chemistry or ymmv, but she blew my mind. Up there with Natali as my personal service favourite.
Angie is just an angel. Either she was having very much fun as well, or she is a good actress. Either way, I'll repeat any day. She was even better than back in August.
Lorena has grown from being a bit young and petite into becoming pure sexy from her teasing attitude and fancy sexual clothes. Definitely an optic and she wins in doggy. Not much kissing though. Maybe needs some time and YMMV as I didn't go with her in Aug. And I think she remembered. I messed up with condom also as I didn't bring enough XL's and chanced on a smaller one this session, and that stressed me and the session a bit. Will definitely repeat for a real try again next I see her as she has some of that x factor. Just got to break the ice and see if kissing is possible too.
Semi-milfy Elisa was there on first 2 days, but arrived a bit late and allways were hung up by some too-much-talking italian who just wasted her time while she didn't look too amused. But allways ended up going to the room with set italian also. Either way, options were good, so I didn't care.
Ivet was also there. Seems to be best friend of barbie Elena. She has been sexercising alot and has a 6 pack now. Looked better last summer with some more tan skin, but she has great curves. Tried upselling 3-some the time I tried, so I skipped her. If she wants to play that game, she is talking to the wrong person.
I was close to going with Daria. She is allways smiling, and very charming. Deffinately a miss Dolce.
Too bad I missed out on Nia the slow day as she only worked Saturday and Monday. Her tits look really nice. Can't recall if they were fake or real as I did go with her in August.
Honorable mentions:
- Samantha (? I cannot find her profile on veniamo). Brunette in a great mood who dances alot with random guys and sat down on my lap during the competition. Would have gone with her the last day if club was open 15 min longer. Touche.
- Maya, Crina, Cristina, Desiree, Bridget and a girl I nicknamed Caramella due to her hair since she didn't want to give me her name (LOL). And maybe 2-3 others I forgot the names of.
Girls from lineup who looks enticing but just happened to be away during the weekend: Natali (big let down to me that she was missing), Ivana, Polina, Melani, Lena, Ailin. I don't know why they skipped the contest weekend as I saw them all there a week ago and are now back again on the lineup (I guess I have followed the lineup too closely the past few weeks, and got to stop now. Haha). But there were not more than 75 girls maximum on the Saturday. The 100 number being played around felt like a joke. But all clubs exaggerate with these numbers. Sunday had maybe 55-60. Monday had 37-40. Tuesday had 50-55. Roughly speaking though I could be off by max 2-3.
To those considering going to Wellcum. Car is the only way. Andiamo, the other club in the area has just 20 girls I heard. So you are stuck with 1 club in an area of 2 hours drive (Marina in Slovenia being closest big club and have up to 60 girls on the busiest days. Which may be Wednesdays due to the cheaper entry but Monday could also be an option to head down there if in the area). If you stay many days, one can always grow a bit tired of the same atmosphere. YMMV when it comes to girls too. A frenchie I was with had completely different taste than me and he writes on the french forums Wellcum thread) When it is a solo club like at Artemis in Berlin, one might want to check the waters first. On the other hand, to me the lineup beats anything seen in Germany. Except for the Monday lineup. Maybe Sirioja would have said there are too many teeny girls at Wellcum. I do think a few more upper 20's could have been nice in the lineup also as opposed to the majority of the top 10's being 21-23. But that is nitpicking.
I never wrote Wellcum is little girls land, like Oase or Sharks. I saw some woman looks at Wellcum, like Maya claiming to be Hungarian. My Romanian Eve on August, was so woman behavior, before, when choosing room, losing her time to wait for a good room on party, other girls didn't understand she refused many keys, and what a passionate woman in bed, why after trying Tara and Daria to start on first day, I finished my night with her and only her for 3 next days, for 6 1 hour rooms, but she did worth.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2157857]I never wrote Wellcum is little girls land, like Oase or Sharks. I saw some woman looks at Wellcum, like Maya claiming to be Hungarian. My Romanian Eve on August, was so woman behavior, before, when choosing room, losing her time to wait for a good room on party, other girls didn't understand she refused many keys, and what a passionate woman in bed, why after trying Tara and Daria to start on first day,[/QUOTE]I know you didn't say it. But the girls I posted about are in average* more similar to your description in other clubs regarding younger girls in the lower 20's. But most if not all the girls I mentioned being away for the weekend are upper 20's girls or even around 30. I am non biased on age by the way. As long as they are legal and act mature enough. Can also go up to girls older than myself too, but perhaps just 10 years up. LOL.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2157958]I know you didn't say it. But the girls I posted about are in average* more similar to your description in other clubs regarding younger girls in the lower 20's. But most if not all the girls I mentioned being away for the weekend are upper 20's girls or even around 30. I am non biased on age by the way. As long as they are legal and act mature enough. Can also go up to girls older than myself too, but perhaps just 10 years up. LOL.[/QUOTE]Nothing about age, one of my weekly multi rooms regular, was only 23 when she started and she was so woman for her look and behavior in room, even not a top performer.
Some girls who are not far from 23, look and behave like little girls.
I enjoyed Wellcum casting even I chose only 1 girl as always, for her woman behavior at 25 yo, but also because of some other woman looks seen. Why I also enjoy GT Bruggen casting about few women there, I don t find same woman types at big Sharks or Oase.
My eyes and brain are more attracted by woman types than little girls. Natali. Hu is not 20 anymore.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2158235]My eyes and brain are more attracted by woman types than little girls. Natali. Hu is not 20 anymore.[/QUOTE]Natali is a special girl. Maybe she is 30 now or so. Doesn't matter, she can go on as long as she wants and still be a favourite. Her face is still perhaps the most beautiful in any FKK. Or at least not worse than a draw with some others. It can be so hard to compare apples with oranges though. She is also in top fit shape and knows how to take care of herself. Still, the best thing about her is her focus, calm and thoughtfulness when she speaks. She is quick and has an incredible presence to her. I guess I would agree with you there, to me also she might be the most womanly girl at the entire club, and just seem more liberal in many ways than others (not just the sex part). But it is hard to compare, as some of these impulses is only seen when you pay attention to someone, and have perhaps been with them a bit. At least if being liberal, and having a mind of your own is the denominator for being womanly. They do say that the older we get, the more impulses around us we are able to take in. Our field of view grows etc. Until the point where our brains start running slower due to too many inputs. But with exercise the focus meter can be increased and extended in lifespan before things start going slower. Still, it doesn't start to go down before one is somewhere between 30 and 55. Dependant on fitness and health.
Which club is better and have bigger number of WGs? Wellcum or Golden Time Vienna?
Could one take a taxi from a hotel in nearby Arnoldstein to Wellcum? Or Hotel Restaurant Südrast Dreiländereck very nearby? Would the taxi drivers be annoyed at so short a ride?
[QUOTE=Zumboit;2159063]Could one take a taxi from a hotel in nearby Arnoldstein to Wellcum? Or Hotel Restaurant Sdrast Dreilndereck very nearby? Would the taxi drivers be annoyed at so short a ride?[/QUOTE]Even if they are, they shouldn't be. They will accept the ride no matter what.
Sorry, I think I posted in wrong thread. Reposting.
Vienna scene.
Hello boys,
Humbly ask for assistance from anyone who could contribute. Planning trip to Vienna. A few questions if I may:
1. Has anyone been to Babylon? Any intel would be appreciated. They have a website which is asking €20 to see pictures of girls but I'the like to get some verification that what you see is what you get in that facility. Trip reports or reviews of any ladies are hard to come by for this place.
2. Anyone been to Goldentime recently? I've read trip reports but from a few months ago. Would appreciate recommendations of any starlets ID appreciate. I'll be there likely mid week, so not sure the line up will be the best. My bet is Fri. And sat night are the best nights to go.
3. If there any quick tips or pointer you think may be important I'd appreciate! I'm reading the forums and thread to see what to expect and how not to get hustled. The info provided by members is great and thank you. I hope to give back to the thread sometime in the near future.
[QUOTE=DonDonato;2159047]Which club is better and have bigger number of WGs? Wellcum or Golden Time Vienna?[/QUOTE]Wellcum seems to have more girls and less upsells. At least for us non locals. Which makes GT into a semi-tourist -trap. It is however 70 e per 30 min at Wellcum as opposed to 60 at GT. GT is 5 e more more expensive entry cost however.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2159411]Wellcum seems to have more girls and less upsells. At least for us non locals. Which makes GT into a semi-tourist -trap. It is however 70 e per 30 min at Wellcum as opposed to 60 at GT. GT is 5 e more more expensive entry cost however.[/QUOTE]In Wellcum the girls can't upsell for OWO. I think for kissing not either. In GT they sorf of can do it.
[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2159602]In Wellcum the girls can't upsell for OWO. I think for kissing not either. In GT they sorf of can do it.[/QUOTE]Girls in Wellcum don't upsell for OWO or (french) kissing by my experiences, but some of them offer some services by their preferences. I was often asked if I wish BJ with or without. If I left to a girl to select, I usually got without.
I'd like to thank Massimo for all of your help and information about Austria. Probably even more so in the future as more of us try out Austria as an alternative to new German uncertainty.
What can we expect at this party? Will club be overcrowded? Any special offers maybe? Lower entry fee or something like that.
[QUOTE=DonDonato;2159953]What can we expect at this party? Will club be overcrowded? Any special offers maybe? Lower entry fee or something like that.[/QUOTE]A big party "Miss Wellcum" was there less than two weeks ago, so maybe will not be too overcrowded, but probably will come more men as on usual Saturdays (if they will not celebrate Easter at home). Don't expect lower fee. Details about party are not published yet, but I expect some shows and girls in bunny costumes.
One would expect some girls to take easter vacation. I know two of the girls I reviewed said they'd be taking a short holliday during easter.
On the other hand, it was a bit hyped up to be more girls than there really was during the Wellcum party, and some girls were away just for a week while that party happened. So perhaps there are equally many girls there during the easter party: 75 ish. Just speculations on my part, but perhaps they have a cap on girls there, changing from month to month (raising the cap in some months) as opposed to clubs like sharks and Artemis where girls numbers fluctuate heavily from 70-150 in the weekends. The policy of allowing in as many girls as possible can be detrimental too.
[QUOTE=Zumboit;2159711]I'd like to thank Massimo for all of your help and information about Austria. Probably even more so in the future as more of us try out Austria as an alternative to new German uncertainty.[/QUOTE]Always a pleasure!
Does anyone have any info on when this proposed new sauna club will be opening?
Thank you, Dubner.
Quickly Reporting a 2 day trip at Wellcum.
It was my first return trip since August and I made use of the hotel this time. It really is worth it if you're doing back to back days. You can retreat to your room any time by just walking upstairs. I even took 45 minutes out for a jog on the path that runs along the river behind the club.
Rooms are usually 150 euro for single rooms and 120 for double rooms and entry is 85 euro. Current special is 120 euro for single room and entry together on Sundays through Wednesdays. It's 99 euro per person for double rooms and entry on those days.
Again, the venue, amenities, food, and optics are superior to any sauna club in Europe. It's also more diverse than any Hessen or NRW club. Only thing missing are Germans and Asians. They are replaced by a higher contingent of Bulgarians, Hungarians, and some Italian-EE mixes.
My biggest complaint is that at 70 euro half hours, good service should be more of a guarantee. I've had more kissing upsell here than at most clubs.
One room with Sabrina was a little above average but she wanted an extra 30 to kiss, then she protested my favorite position, lazy dog / prone. In the end, she provided an excellent BJ, rode excellent, and welcomed deep, bed compressing fucking for the full 30 minutes. Pro but good.
I went conservative and repeated long rooms with Natali / Natalia. The girl is about that money but since I committed to 1 hours, she unleashes the best rooms I've ever had with a first time girl. The first room was great. Super sensual BJ, great riding, and really let's you fuck like drunk honeymooners. She topped herself in the second room by getting me to pop in 20 minutes for my second pop of the day. Then she had enough left in her for me to jack hammer doggie her for 10 straight minutes for my second pop of the session. No girl has ever taken dick that good while being so passionate at the same time. Pro but wife-sex goddess level sex.
Pay that girl and if she likes you, she will pleasure your every senses and let you fuck her like you're Superman.
Is there any ATM machine in FKK Wellcum? Thanks.
[QUOTE=Hawkeyee;2168493]Is there any ATM machine in FKK Wellcum? Thanks.[/QUOTE]No. You will find ATM in nearby Arnoldstein, but in Wellcum you can pay entry fee with credit card.
Raiffeisenbank Arnoldstein has an ATM outside. I usually go there. It is by the post office. Just drive along the main road until you hit the roadworks, and on the left side.
[QUOTE=SamsonMonger;2164727]Quickly Reporting a 2 day trip at Wellcum.
It was my first return trip since August and I made use of the hotel this time. It really is worth it if you're doing back to back days. You can retreat to your room any time by just walking upstairs. I even took 45 minutes out for a jog on the path that runs along the river behind the club.
Rooms are usually 150 euro for single rooms and 120 for double rooms and entry is 85 euro. Current special is 120 euro for single room and entry together on Sundays through Wednesdays. It's 99 euro per person for double rooms and entry on those days.
Again, the venue, amenities, food, and optics are superior to any sauna club in Europe. It's also more diverse than any Hessen or NRW club. Only thing missing are Germans and Asians. They are replaced by a higher contingent of Bulgarians, Hungarians, and some Italian-EE mixes.
My biggest complaint is that at 70 euro half hours, good service should be more of a guarantee. I've had more kissing upsell here than at most clubs..[/QUOTE]Yes Wellcum is a beautiful club, close to wonderful Carinthians mountains, good foods, better casting even less girls, than at Sharks, but not than Globe at the moment. Also much higher GFE level on average at Globe, even my last August Eve had level for Globe.
I had Natali. Hu on my first visit at Wellcum on August 2016, she came to me on next day, but I killed so much myself climbing Zoncolan under heavy heat, so when I recovered, she has finished to work. On last August, she came again, but not same level for sweetness and tenderness than my new Eve, so no repeat on my 4 days at Wellcum, when 6 1 hour rooms with my Eve.
[QUOTE=Hawkeyee;2168493]Is there any ATM machine in FKK Wellcum? Thanks.[/QUOTE]No, but I think when you don't have enough money because you enjoyed too long time your girl, you can ask desk. I don't know if they charge, they don't charge when you pay entry 85 with credit card. At Globe, they charge 10% when You pay with not Swiss credit card, but still less expensive than paying in euros for 1/1 .
You can also leave Wellcum for hours and come back later. I did every day, to drive 100 kms to play with Zoncolan for hours and 100 kms back, only my Eve couldn't understand what I did. Her first French, her first guy who preferred his mountains, who sent her photos when he was on top, rather than fucking all beauties. But Wellcum is just because of climbing for me, even top 10 beauties at Wellcum are prettier than in Germany, because Italian business is better than German and drinking Turkish at night business in Germany, but I find prettier girls at Globe and I find some really pretty girls in Germany with higher GFE level on average than at Wellcum, and for only 50 per 30 mn in Germany, with better skill in bed at GT or sometimes LR or YY NL.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2169258] and I find some really pretty girls in Germany with higher GFE level on average than at Wellcum, and for only 50 per 30 mn in Germany, with better skill in bed at GT or sometimes LR or YY NL.[/QUOTE]And on a quantitative basis, how many data points have you gathered at Wellcum in order to make this statement?
Personally I have sampled 11 girls at Wellcum now (plus two Wellcum girls I stumbled upon at Palace and Oceans who had just left) and I don't know of any German club with a higher average* service level. At least if you withhold a club like SS where I only went with one girl, and she was stellar. But just one data point is hardly enough to make a statement. A few girls at Wellcum are not great with kissing, but only one out of eleven has said no to it, and she has not been around since last summer from what I can tell, although a few only baby kissed. And only one upsold it. But service is more than only kissing, even if it adds an x factor.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2169432]And on a quantitative basis, how many data points have you gathered at Wellcum in order to make this statement?
Personally I have sampled 11 girls at Wellcum now (plus two Wellcum girls I stumbled upon at Palace and Oceans who had just left) and I don't know of any German club with a higher average* service level. At least if you withhold a club like SS where I only went with one girl, and she was stellar. But just one data point is hardly enough to make a statement. A few girls at Wellcum are not great with kissing, but only one out of eleven has said no to it, and she has not been around since last summer from what I can tell, although a few only baby kissed. And only one upsold it. But service is more than only kissing, even if it adds an x factor.[/QUOTE]On August 2016, Andiamo was higher level for me than Wellcum, with more fresh look girls, and I missed a top beauty like Anissa now at Globe. 1 visit at Andiamo with 3 girls, 3 visits at Wellcum with 4 girls, among them Natali. Hu. I preferred Andiamo casting.
On August 2017, 4 days visits at Wellcum with much better casting than 1 year ago. Roxana silicon ex Sharks looked like a GND. Had Tara, Darla red hair, and my Eve for third on first day, and only her after, even Natali came to me, she remembered 1 year ago.
Yes, casting was very good for eyes on August 2017, yes I found a top GFE girl for my tastes, Natali is good but not a real GFE and not a great beauty for me, compare to Maya silicon or a brunette I forgot name, even we played a lot, laughing in lounge, but except my last on 2016 who was really GFE, but not there on 2017, and my 6 rooms Eve 2017, but others were quite average in bed, even Tara and Darla are really nice, but I would say: Italian business level. Italians love women, they give good business, that s why Wellcum casting is higher than in Germany with German and Turkish at night business, but they are not so demanding for sex. I don t think many Wellcum girls are great kisser or foreplayer, my favorite GFE games, for sex like at home. Anyway I found my good girl and better for me to have only 1 girl in 1 club, then no jealousy, no: Are You behaving the same with her?
Of course Wellcum worth to visit, despite entry 85, but good foods, beautiful club, wonderful mountains around, but I will only go when I go for Zoncolan, when I drive every week end to GT, LR before, Globe now. Wellcum is Italian level, like can find in Germany Asian or Turkish level specialists. Not my level, so I had to work hard to find my level girl. At GT Bruggen, I had some high level girls on last 6 months, also few at YY, of course at Globe. For 1 met on first time last night, I can t be in Verbier today, my mistake, I m really not professional, You can t fuck a girl all night and have to drive 300 kms in Switzerland to free ride before 10 am. But she was just magic, just what I look for, even I would have preferred to be in Verbier today.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2169669]On August 2016, Andiamo was higher level for me than Wellcum, with more fresh look girls, and I missed a top beauty like Anissa now at Globe. 1 visit at Andiamo with 3 girls, 3 visits at Wellcum with 4 girls, among them Natali. Hu. I preferred Andiamo casting.
On August 2017, 4 days visits at Wellcum with much better casting than 1 year ago. Roxana silicon ex Sharks looked like a GND. Had Tara, Darla red hair, and my Eve for third on first day, and only her after, even Natali came to me, she remembered 1 year ago.
Yes, casting was very good for eyes on August 2017, yes I found a top GFE girl for my tastes, Natali is good but not a real GFE and not a great beauty for me, compare to Maya silicon or a brunette I forgot name, even we played a lot, laughing in lounge, but except my last on 2016 who was really GFE, but not there on 2017, and my 6 rooms Eve 2017, but others were quite average in bed, even Tara and Darla are really nice, but I would say: Italian business level. Italians love women, they give good business, that s why Wellcum casting is higher than in Germany with German and Turkish at night business, but they are not so demanding for sex. I don t think many Wellcum girls are great kisser or foreplayer, my favorite GFE games, for sex like at home. Anyway I found my good girl and better for me to have only 1 girl in 1 club, then no jealousy, no: Are You behaving the same with her?[/QUOTE]Now at W there is a pressure on customer to change the minimum charge from 70€ to 100.
The old pros teach and more to the new the rules.
I can see how quickly an new one change in only one month.
The reason? Now w is a Romanian consulate.
[QUOTE=Tropea317;2170059]Now at W there is a pressure on customer to change the minimum charge from 70 to 100.
The old pros teach and more to the new the rules.
I can see how quickly an new one change in only one month.
The reason? Now w is a Romanian consulate.[/QUOTE]Another thing it s the endless moving from Wellcum to Andiamo to marina.
The Romerbad of Feldkirchen have moving of girls only out not in.
An example of this pro is Miriam a tall blonde no tattoo great slim body.
For 70€ will try to make you come as quickly as she can.
With add of 30€for French kiss you buy more time.
Make you come in ten minutes instead of five.
She is moving up and down to w to marina and. Back.
I had been a frequent visitor to the clubs in Germany but had grown tired of the scene and have not attended for one year. I had an itch to try again and thought I would start with a new club for me, Wellcum.
Coming from the UK the travel is tiresome. I flew to Salzburg and drove for two and a half hours to Wellcum. The scenery and good road makes the journey manageable.
First impressions of the club were good. I received a friendly welcome from the girl on reception and she helped ensure that I got the promotional offer as I was staying at the hotel as well as attending the club. I checked in at around 1 pm and my room was available. The room is very comfortable and clean. This is the first time that I had stayed in accommodation at a club and it was very convenient. After a shower I went to the restaurant for some lunch. The options were good, but I settled for some fresh fruit and yogurt before taking a tour of the club. The facilities are excellent. Up with the best of the German clubs that I have attended, with the exception of Sakura.
I have read that the lineup is good and I was not disappointed. There were many girls to my taste either physically or personality. I chose one girl based on her looks (Sabrina), one girl based on her personality / our chemistry (Ada) and one girl for both (Carla). All the girls that approached me were very friendly, not at all pushy, and took no offence if I said not now. The environment was very welcoming and relaxing. The barman (Slovenian, recently joined, but I forget his name) was also friendly and happy to chat.
First session was an hour with Carla (claimed to be Ukranian). I usually take a little while to settle at a club but Carla put me at ease and I enjoyed a fun one hour session. Not spectacular, so I would probably not repeat.
Second session was with Ada (Moldavia). I was not really ready for another session but I really enjoyed speaking with Ada. We talked at the bar for a long time before going to a room. The small (free of charge) VIP room was available and it was nice to have some extra space. This session was one and a half hours and I really enjoyed myself. Our chemistry when speaking continued in the room and I would probably repeat.
Third and final session was with the extremely attractive Sabrina (also Moldavia, I think). Just a half hours session, but I would have liked to have had more energy and to have spent more time. She is very beautiful and was lots of fun.
Overall, I was impressed with the club. I don't know if I will return due to travel logistics and my reduced enjoyment of this hobby, but it was a fun day. Many of the girls spoke excellent English (particularly Ada and Sabrina) which I had not been expecting. The rooms were clean and comfortable, if a bit hot. The girls think Wellcum is the best club and seem keen demonstrate and preserve that reputation when in the room and when prowling for business.
[QUOTE=Frozty;2171201]I had been a frequent visitor to the clubs in Germany but had grown tired of the scene and have not attended for one year. I had an itch to try again and thought I would start with a new club for me, Wellcum.
Coming from the UK the travel is tiresome. I flew to Salzburg and drove for two and a half hours to Wellcum. The scenery and good road makes the journey manageable..[/QUOTE]My post and this are both true.
Wellcum it s a place where customer with big money this is a remember of Thailand are welcome.
Customer that stay glued to half hour 70€ not so welcome.
By the way Ukrainian Spanish Moldavia are all Romanian.
[QUOTE=Tropea317;2171466]Customer that stay glued to half hour 70 not so welcome.
By the way Ukrainian Spanish Moldavia are all Romanian.[/QUOTE]I'm too slow to enjoy good GFE girls on only 30 mn, I had 1 hour rooms with my GFE Romanian Eve on last August, and no upselling, just 140.
If Wellcum become land of upselling, I will go to discover Marina. Slo, maybe Slovenian or Croatian beauties?
[QUOTE=Tropea317;2171466]My post and this are both true.
By the way Ukrainian Spanish Moldavia are all Romanian.[/QUOTE]Girls, who claim they are from Spain, are probably Romanians. Girls from Moldova are usually Romanians with Moldovan citizenship, but they could have Russian or Ukrainian origins also.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2171611]I'm too slow to enjoy good GFE girls on only 30 mn, I had 1 hour rooms with my GFE Romanian Eve on last August, and no upselling, just 140.
If Wellcum become land of upselling, I will go to discover Marina. Slo, maybe Slovenian or Croatian beauties?[/QUOTE]Marina has more choice of nationality, but not Slovenian Croatian.
Maybe Serbian.
The other are a 3 Ukrainian that come in the place ever together.
A little choice of Caribbean and Brazil.
Now in every FKK the number of Romanian it's the most part.
Hope the mentioned upselling here stops. Otherwise the club would fall as quickly as it has risen. 100 per 30 min is not worth it if you ask me. I did go for a 100 with one girl, but had her agree on a 40 min session instead of 30 as a counter. And next time it would just be 70 again. If the upsell grows I am a goner soon enough too.
The lineup was poor and I left without a session. A first for me. I know that Tuesday's is a bad day to attend most clubs, but I was surprised that I could find nobody that I wanted to fuck.
[QUOTE=Frozty;2171983]The lineup was poor and I left without a session. A first for me. I know that Tuesday's is a bad day to attend most clubs, but I was surprised that I could find nobody that I wanted to fuck.[/QUOTE]Your reports are probably valid. But what makes you want to fuck a girl? Reading this forum shows me time after time how different we guys are in choosing the girls we prefer. One of the girls you mentioned, although having a nice personality, was a 2 or a 3 out of 10 in my book for optics. Is personality the main criteria? Or did you find the 3 girls you mentioned to be some of the hottest girls there? (I only remember one of the three girls you mentioned). I noticed the same opposite view with the poster on youppie although with their girls. But I guess we should thank god the world is like this. And not have everyone chasing the same girls.
[QUOTE=Tropea317;2171844]Marina has more choice of nationality, but not Slovenian Croatian.
Maybe Serbian.
The other are a 3 Ukrainian that come in the place ever together.
A little choice of Caribbean and Brazil.
Now in every FKK the number of Romanian it's the most part.[/QUOTE]Are there more than a few Serbian girls in Marina?
[QUOTE=DeltaIndigo;2172026]Are there more than a few Serbian girls in Marina?[/QUOTE]Maybe 1 or 2 Serbian no more.
But more nationality choice of Wellcum.
The best day are Friday.
In Saturday have all the girls but also all the customer.
Sunday it's sleepy.
Also beware of Italian national day like right now 04/25/2018 and 01/05/2018.
A lot of Italian customer this week.
Now the Romanian are the leader of meat market.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2172018]Your reports are probably valid. But what makes you want to fuck a girl? Reading this forum shows me time after time how different we guys are in choosing the girls we prefer. One of the girls you mentioned, although having a nice personality, was a 2 or a 3 out of 10 in my book for optics. Is personality the main criteria? Or did you find the 3 girls you mentioned to be some of the hottest girls there? (I only remember one of the three girls you mentioned). I noticed the same opposite view with the poster on youppie although with their girls. But I guess we should thank god the world is like this. And not have everyone chasing the same girls.[/QUOTE]Sometimes I choose for looks, sometimes for personality. Looks is usually the first choice.
Of the three sessions on Monday, only one I would describe as hot. An 8, if you like. One was a 6 or 7, but sexy with it. And one would probably be a 4 or 5. But the chemistry was good and experience told me that we would have a good GFE session.
I was surprised at the drop in quality from Monday to Tuesday. To my tastes anyway.
[QUOTE=Tropea317;2171844]Marina has more choice of nationality, but not Slovenian Croatian.
Maybe Serbian.
The other are a 3 Ukrainian that come in the place ever together.
A little choice of Caribbean and Brazil.
Now in every FKK the number of Romanian it's the most part.[/QUOTE]Even at expensive Globe or Bumsalp Zurich, or very expensive = 280 € for 30 mn or 500 € for 1 hour + extra for party, Aphrodisia Zurich city, about 90% of girls are Romanian. Not a problem for me because I love my Romanians like I love my Russian or Ukrainian escorts in Paris, but I hate upselling, money talks kill my illusion, my desire and pleasure. No problem to pay 140 for 1 hour with my Romanian Eve on last August, she worth for GFE, had 6 rooms with her from Thursday to Sunday.
Usually not so attracted by Serbians and not at all by South American latinas, Romanians are more attractive for me.
Some girls at Sharks or Oase ask 100 for 30 mn, and they are not really pretty.
[QUOTE=Frozty;2172065]I was surprised at the drop in quality from Monday to Tuesday. To my tastes anyway.[/QUOTE]Most girls take 2 days of work per week it seems, and Mondays / Tuesdays seems to be the two days that gets hurt by this the most. At least for non-summer high season. For me, it was the Monday that was the weakest.
What would Wellcum be like early in the afternoon, weekday? How many girls can one expect at 1 or 2 pm?
[QUOTE=Zumboit;2172287]What would Wellcum be like early in the afternoon, weekday? How many girls can one expect at 1 or 2 pm?[/QUOTE]There is a sort of shift.
1/3 of the girls come at 12 and stay until 22.00.
The other come at 1600 and stay until the closure.
[QUOTE=Zumboit;2172287]What would Wellcum be like early in the afternoon, weekday? How many girls can one expect at 1 or 2 pm?[/QUOTE]Approx 20 girls there around opening time for both days that I was there.
[QUOTE=Tropea317;2172035]Maybe 1 or 2 Serbian no more.
But more nationality choice of Wellcum.
The best day are Friday.
In Saturday have all the girls but also all the customer.
Sunday it's sleepy.
Also beware of Italian national day like right now 04/25/2018 and 01/05/2018.
A lot of Italian customer this week.
Now the Romanian are the leader of meat market.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your info about Marina. Slo.
Some Romanians are interesting women, with a bit same behavior than french women, for me. I enjoy them, I met some weekly for more than 1 year, some seem to like to feel woman.
I remember the Ukrainian group at Marina. One of them looked semi fine perhaps, while the other two were a bit below average. But their service was supposedly known to be good.
[QUOTE=Tropea317;2171466]My post and this are both true.
Wellcum it s a place where customer with big money this is a remember of Thailand are welcome.
Customer that stay glued to half hour 70 not so welcome.
By the way Ukrainian Spanish Moldavia are all Romanian.[/QUOTE]Never been to Wellcum and interested to have a visit.
For now Thailand is full of high rollers of local and tourist, I had just visited the most expansive sauna "Maria" in Bangkok before 3 months and the price there is from 5000——10000 baht and vast customers come and choose girls like in a fish market. The manager told me there are many customers have long time with girls which price is 8000——10000 baht (210——260 euros) per 1.5 hour, even if you start talk with her in the salon or have drink / food with her the time already counted.
I also have a small question about Wellcum, which is if in the rooms (normal room or VIP room) they have several pillows, at least 2 or 3, a example in Sharks, Darmstadt. Because I like the position "mountain" which let the girl lying on several pillows which is similar like "lazy dog".
[QUOTE=Kurisu2014;2173377]Never been to Wellcum and interested to have a visit.
For now Thailand is full of high rollers of local and tourist, I had just visited the most expansive sauna "Maria" in Bangkok before 3 months and the price there is from 500010000 baht and vast customers come and choose girls like in a fish market. The manager told me there are many customers have long time with girls which price is 800010000 baht (210260 euros) per 1.5 hour, even if you start talk with her in the salon or have drink / food with her the time already counted.[/QUOTE]Now its the right time from May to September can use the Little swimming pool and the garden.
For the girls the basic its 70€ For half hour but that the endless extra.
You have to talk before to go in the room not in the room or after the room.
Extras CIM 50€ FK 30 or free anal 100€.
Few girls make other trick with dildo, pissing shitting, beware make attention ask carefully when you talk with a girl you are not lonely other wachting you girls or customer.
If you noted a man or two that drink make loud and not go upstairs definitely its the pimp.
[QUOTE=Tropea317;2173451]Now its the right time from May to September can use the Little swimming pool and the garden.
For the girls the basic its 70 For half hour but that the endless extra.
You have to talk before to go in the room not in the room or after the room.
Extras CIM 50 FK 30 or free anal 100.
Few girls make other trick with dildo, pissing shitting, beware make attention ask carefully when you talk with a girl you are not lonely other wachting you girls or customer.
If you noted a man or two that drink make loud and not go upstairs definitely its the pimp.[/QUOTE]Thank you so much for the advises, in Sharks or Samya you can also find new girls (just started her first club in Germany), would like to know if in Wellcum also.
New girls are the gold, although they may change quickly.
[QUOTE=Kurisu2014;2173723]Thank you so much for the advises, in Sharks or Samya you can also find new girls (just started her first club in Germany), would like to know if in Wellcum also.
New girls are the gold, although they may change quickly.[/QUOTE]Remember the girl must suck BBJ this is Austria not Germany.
[QUOTE=Tropea317;2173879]Remember the girl must suck BBJ this is Austria not Germany.[/QUOTE]So, for the posts I have read, if we would consider for now Wellcum have the average best casting than any other clubs in DE? Or maybe equal than Switzerland?
For my only 2 visits in Globe, Zurich, most girls in there late 20's and didn't so stunning as many people said, very disappointing but any way I had met several girls in German FKK who before or after work in Switzerland, they are truly the top ladies.
And also with higher price in Wellcum you could got the same GFE service level as in German clubs but with better line up and top level foods, views, facilities?
[QUOTE=Kurisu2014;2174136]So, for the posts I have read, if we would consider for now Wellcum have the average best casting than any other clubs in DE? Or maybe equal than Switzerland?
For my only 2 visits in Globe, Zurich, most girls in there late 20's and didn't so stunning as many people said, very disappointing but any way I had met several girls in German FKK who before or after work in Switzerland, they are truly the top ladies.
And also with higher price in Wellcum you could got the same GFE service level as in German clubs but with better line up and top level foods, views, facilities?[/QUOTE]With entry fee of 85€ you want good food e good place.
For the girls etc you have to check personally, I go only Wellcum Andiamo and Marina.
My advice its not start to splash money, but take your time.
A trick I don't like its two girls that offer service together, its 140€ half hour plus lesbo extra if just one lick the other.
[QUOTE=Tropea317;2174199]A trick I don't like its two girls that offer service together, its 140 half hour plus lesbo extra if just one lick the other.[/QUOTE]This one is really a scam though. I have been a few times (just a few) with 2 girls and never had lesbo service. Actually I can't recall if any of the ones I went with for this even asked about it. But I knew them well enough from before. Yet, they all licked each others a bit naturally. It just goes with the flow of things. But I still prefer one girl at a time by far even if one of my 3-somes were quite spectacular.
[QUOTE=Kurisu2014;2173377]Never been to Wellcum and interested to have a visit.
For now Thailand is full of high rollers of local and tourist, I had just visited the most expansive sauna "Maria" in Bangkok before 3 months and the price there is from 500010000 baht and vast customers come and choose girls like in a fish market. The manager told me there are many customers have long time with girls which price is 800010000 baht (210260 euros) per 1.5 hour, even if you start talk with her in the salon or have drink / food with her the time already counted.[/QUOTE]So basically thai prices have caught up with european prices. Aside from the entry fees ofcourse, still making FKK's more expensive although you can subtract the food cost I suppose. And in the soapies, the girls just get about 50%, while the club takes the rest.
But word on the street is that Cambodia is about to grow as popular as thailand now. How are the prices there?
By the way, the so called fish tank places in the Huai Khwang area in Bangkok which you are referring to were always expensive. Even 5 years ago at Poseidon, the prices were from 3200 bath upwards to 8000 bath on the higher level. Nobody really picked the higher level girls though. Even if the managers claimed some did. I sat there for almost 2 hours one day to check if they were lying. Not a single girl from the top level was picked. And no wonder either as they were less pretty than some of the 3200 girls who actually made money. But you could still get freelancers in discos for 1000 or 1500 bath. How is that bar scene in Bangkok now? I hear Nataree got shut down with their trafficked Lao girls holding the soapie prices down. And that freelancer bar on Sukhumvit road. These two places must have kept a check on prices for a few years. And how are the places in the much fairer priced brothels in Sukhumvit Soi 24/24 A area and on the other side of the street nowadays?
[QUOTE=Pistons;2174786]So basically thai prices have caught up with european prices. Aside from the entry fees ofcourse, still making FKK's more expensive although you can subtract the food cost I suppose. And in the soapies, the girls just get about 50%, while the club takes the rest.
But word on the street is that Cambodia is about to grow as popular as thailand now. How are the prices there?
By the way, the so called fish tank places in the Huai Khwang area in Bangkok which you are referring to were always expensive. Even 5 years ago at Poseidon, the prices were from 3200 bath upwards to 8000 bath on the higher level.[/QUOTE]Although there is not entry fees, but you could order food or drinks inside the soapy, and The Lord as considered the No. 1 in Bangkok have just be raid by the police 5 month ago, so all the girl come to the new venue Maria.
I have stayed there that day for 6 hours, see many customers choose girls to seat with, have food and drinks, and after 1 hour they go to the room. I have chosen a 8100 baht girl on that day as she is so pretty and she is a true model in Bangkok. She told me a Taiwan customer booked her 6 hours yesterday to join the party with the price 8100 Baht per 1.5 hour.
With many Chinese mainland customer come to thailand, they seem to be the most generous in Asia and give big income to all kind of places in Thailand.
The freelance bar I know one which is named Thermae which is famous on the Sukhumbit area but for now all the girl there will ask 3000 Baht for one hour and they are very firmed with this price. Also the go go bar got 6000 baht for 4 hour "long time" and can not be negotiated, plus 1500 bar fine, plus lady drinks, etc. And the talent quality dropped.
Anyway I think Thai market have been spoiled and now it is a place to avoid for me. A pity is the region standard there is the best almost in the world and you can eat, live, stay very comfort.
Cambodia from I heard also domined with Chinese guys and I have seen from Asian forums in phnom penh there are places with Casino also with KTV lady charge 400-600 USD for long time with "stunning" Chinese or Thai girls and you can also pick up from other places like for 300 USD for all day etc.
Crazy world.
Wellcum worth for casting, but not higher level in bed than in Germany where BBBJ is still very standard. No girl met on first time never told me only CBJ, even some tell me about new law, but I explain them prosecution would be only for client, not for the girl.
Globe is higher level in bed, with some sexy sophisticated looks, despite many silicon and tattoes.
I will see on my climbing tour if Wellcum is still on same level than last August.
[QUOTE=Kurisu2014;2174949]Although there is not entry fees, but you could order food or drinks inside the soapy, and The Lord as considered the No. 1 in Bangkok have just be raid by the police 5 month ago, so all the girl come to the new venue Maria.
I have stayed there that day for 6 hours, see many customers choose girls to seat with, have food and drinks, and after 1 hour they go to the room. I have chosen a 8100 baht girl on that day as she is so pretty and she is a true model in Bangkok. She told me a Taiwan customer booked her 6 hours yesterday to join the party with the price 8100 Baht per 1.5 hour.
With many Chinese mainland customer come to thailand, they seem to be the most generous in Asia and give big income to all kind of places in Thailand.[/QUOTE]Yes, Thermae was the bar I was thinking of. I heard it got raided and shut down last year. But I guess they opened again then. Probably with the cops are taking their share of the money now then, as I never paid more than 2000 there for whole night. And 1500 with some girls too. Yet I preferred any of the discos over the thermae bar which was more for lazy tourists. At a disco, or even at a shopping mall girl I never paid more than 1500. Sometimes just 1000.
The Lord was never the top huai khwang soapie though. That price easily goes to Emmanuelle or La Belle. Some said Poseidon used to be the top soapie in that expensive area, but that was before 2010 at least. I never saw the draw there. The Lord was never on top. Unless it got there the last 2 years now.
Gogo prices have gone bananas the past 10 years for sure. On my first trip in Thailand 10 years ago the barfine was 300 or 600 bath. And girls went short time for 1000 or 1500. And they were better looking back then than on my last trip 2.5 years ago. Sad to see. Totally not worth a penny any longer.
First time to Wellcum. Not sure why people are raving about the facilities, they seem pretty average to me and inferior to a place like Oase in Frankfurt. Nice garden though with a great backdrop of snow-capped mountains, but still not as a good as Bruggen GT's garden. You can book your own private "VIP" spa area for $100 per hour, but I didn't have enough cash on me.
LU was pretty good. Mostly Romanian. Some average ones, but some very nice lookers too. And this was on a Monday, so I'm assuming it would be even better on the busy weekends.
Daria, Ro: Very pretty girl. Great service in the rooms.
Sabrina, (claims to be Moldovan): Very sexy girl. Nice T&A with a model-looking face. Also good in the rooms.
Lucia, Ro: Pretty girl. Looked to have a stunning, slim body in heels, but then turned out to be quite GND looking without them, but still cute. I found her service not as good my first two as she seems a little reserved personality-wise. Or maybe it's because I was a bit numb from having already cum twice. But still worth the room I guess.
Siggleii: the garden at Wellcum is more for the younger crowd than the older crowd that enjoys the camping atmosphere over at GT Bruggen.
While GT Bruggen has wooden huts all around, a pond that looks like it is full of toxins and these old sunbeds made of wood, Wellcum has an outdoor pool heated all year around for swimming even on cold days, lots of bean bags and hammocks to rest in. And on hot days the girls tend to stroll around more at Wellcum than at GT Bruggen, and the layout of the lounge. Garden is very convenient at Wellcum, while not so much at GT Bruggen.
I would only rate Oase garden and maybe sharks garden above Wellcum garden.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2178233]
I would only rate Oase garden and maybe sharks garden above Wellcum garden.[/QUOTE]That is my exact rating as well!
Oase garden is erotic, with naked girls. I like wood chalets in Sharks garden. Villa Vertigo garden is the best for me for outside sex. Wellcum garden is just a theater for my eyes which love so much mountains, and Carinthians are so wonderful, even Dolomiti around Ampezzo are a masterpiece.
Wellcum FKK.
Location of the club is fabulous. It is very easy to reach it by car. It's seen from highway, and you can't lost with small help from GPS. Club have big parking lot which was 50% full when I came around 13:00 that day.
I've read a lot about this club. Almost all mongers describes it as very classy and luxurious. Well. It's not classy or luxurious but it's ok. Nothing spectacular but it's clean, spacious, rooms are cool, they all have showers and small mirrors, which is a bad thing for me. I like big mirrors. Garden is cool with heated pool and tables around. But I didn't see cabins for semi public action. View towards Tarvisio mountains is beautiful.
Like I've said I came that day around 13:00. In this moment I was enjoying a presence of 20-30 girls. I will rate most of them as 6-8's with few 9's and few very ugly. Later during the day number of girls increased and around 20,00 I was surrounded by 60-70 girls.
I did 4 girls.
First was blonde chick from Romania. Miriam. Very tight body with small silicone boobs. Standard session with BBBJ. Damage 70 euros.
Second session was with blonde chick who sits next to Miriam. She is also from Romania. Silicon boobs, her body is a little bit curvier and she has a tattoo on right forearm. BBBJ + CIM damage 120 euro.
Third session was with Salome. Very beautiful chick with natural boobs and hot curvy body. She claims that she is from Dominican Republic but I think she is also from Romania. Nice session with DFK, BBBJ and regular sex for 70 euro.
Fourth session was with Antonia. She is also from Romania. Beaytiful girl with tight body, black hair and small silicone boobs. She gave me best BBBJ ever in cinema for 70 euros. Blowjob skills of this girls are amazing.
Wellcum was a very nice experience. I will definitely return to this club.
Pros of this club are location, rooms with shower and no upselling for BBBJ.
Cons are girls. I've found better average look of girls in Goldentime Vienna.
[QUOTE=DonDonato;2182937]. But I didn't see cabins for semi public action.[/QUOTE]But they have those open air 270 degree covered things with mattresses in them. Same as at Sharks and I think I've seen them elsewhere also. 2 or 3 I believe. Functional for semi public action I would say. Or had they removed them?
[QUOTE=Pistons;2183223]But they have those open air 270 degree covered things with mattresses in them. Same as at Sharks and I think I've seen them elsewhere also. 2 or 3 I believe. Functional for semi public action I would say. Or had they removed them?[/QUOTE]They probably got them off. There was cold and rainy weather. Maybe I did not notice them. I just went out on a few occasions to smoke a cigarette and haven't spent a lot of time in garden.
I'll probably go back to the club in June. Can any of the more frequent visitors recommend me some good providers?
[QUOTE=Pistons;2183223]But they have those open air 270 degree covered things with mattresses in them. Same as at Sharks and I think I've seen them elsewhere also. 2 or 3 I believe. Functional for semi public action I would say. Or had they removed them?[/QUOTE]Pistons, I noticed cabins in the Wellcum garden the first time last summer also. By my experience a garden is still used more as place for relaxation between sessions and for chat with girls, but not for actions. During last visit of GT Vienna outdoor rooms and cabins were in use most of the time. I miss this in Wellcum.
[QUOTE=Itponaus;2184095]Pistons, I noticed cabins in the Wellcum garden the first time last summer also. By my experience a garden is still used more as place for relaxation between sessions and for chat with girls, but not for actions. During last visit of GT Vienna outdoor rooms and cabins were in use most of the time. I miss this in Wellcum.[/QUOTE]Maybe depends on how hot it is. I saw those three quarter covered huts being used twice one day at least.
[QUOTE=Itponaus;2184095]Pistons, I noticed cabins in the Wellcum garden the first time last summer also. By my experience a garden is still used more as place for relaxation between sessions and for chat with girls, but not for actions. During last visit of GT Vienna outdoor rooms and cabins were in use most of the time. I miss this in Wellcum.[/QUOTE]As far as I know in Wellcum they are not supposed to be used. Outdoor action probably not welcome. In GT Vienna on the other hand it is encouraged.
Just heard that one of my favourite girls who has been mentioned as a 9 and a stunner by other posters plans to leave Welcum. She has been there for quite a while. Has anyone noticed a change come over the place since my last visit in March?
Thanks, D.
[QUOTE=Dubner32;2184851]Just heard that one of my favourite girls who has been mentioned as a 9 and a stunner by other posters plans to leave Welcum. She has been there for quite a while. Has anyone noticed a change come over the place since my last visit in March?
Thanks, D.[/QUOTE]I can't seem to able to PM you. Which girl is it?
Reading the Italian forum they all seem to discuss avoiding to pay 100 for 30 min with a few girls. Aside from that I haven't picked up on any changes. But summertime is busy at Wellcum. Maybe she leaves after the summer?
How many Austrians or Germans are in the club on average?
[QUOTE=Siggleii;2177632]First time to Wellcum. ... LU was pretty good. Mostly Romanian. [/QUOTE]
P, Thanks for response. Not Senior so no PM capability.
Not going to name in public. Understand already gone to do apartment work in another W Europe country. Said income down due so many girls moving up from Marina. Competition is tough; even for quality girls! Suggested Globe (they would take her with open arms based on looks charm etc) but they require some services she is unwilling to provide.
She has a plan to make a certain figure and quit in two years. No longer keeping up with target. Capitalism and the Market rule. No.
I drive 6 hours to visit Welcum for two / three days. Easily best quality club for central Italy resident. Wish it was FKK. Maybe I will just drive to her appartment.
I am not 'smitten'. But monitoring self for possible symptoms.
D.
Easy fix: just post random stuff in several threads and you are senior within a day. I believe it is 20 or 30 posts. Nothing in other words. I met only one girl in March who had moved up from Marina. She was not my cup of tea. Maybe a 7 perhaps. A fake blonde perhaps 1.65-1. 67 tall.
P, Thanks for info.
Whatever it was, something must have stimulated her to leave a known secure 'well-paying' environment and go freelancing in an unknown (to her) country.
I will get a better understanding when I catch up with her.
D.
[QUOTE=Kuni042;2185232]How many austrians or germans are in the club on average?[/QUOTE]Usually 10% max.
[QUOTE=Dubner32;2185380]P, Thanks for info.
Whatever it was, something must have stimulated her to leave a known secure 'well-paying' environment and go freelancing in an unknown (to her) country.
I will get a better understanding when I catch up with her.
D.[/QUOTE]So she already left? Don't tell me its a girl with a recent new boobjob?
[QUOTE=Kuni042;2185232]How many austrians or germans are in the club on average?[/QUOTE]Mostly Romanian girls for easy Italian clients who make business at Wellcum. I met a real Italian, Anna, on August 2016, but very average in room. Some beauties on last August, when they are more and more rare in Germany.
[QUOTE=Kuni042;2185232]How many austrians or germans are in the club on average?[/QUOTE]If you asked about girls: last year worked there a girl from Vienna (Favoriten district), but of foreign origin. She was the only Austrian or German I met in four years.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2185696]So she already left? Don't tell me its a girl with a recent new boobjob?[/QUOTE]Boobjob about 15 months ago. Same girl?
The.
[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2185425]Usually 10% max.[/QUOTE]Give us 1 years to get out of euro and will be 90% Austrian and 10% Italian for the loss we will get.
[QUOTE=Dubner32;2186322]Boobjob about 15 months ago. Same girl?
The.[/QUOTE]No. Both Natali and Nia's enhancements are much more recent than 15 months. So at least I can knock those two off the list of possible options. But I haven't really read anyone rating a girl a 9 here in this thread. Or even given a 1-10 score at all the past 20 pages. I am actually a bit blank if her tits were enhanced 15 months ago as that was before my first visit too.
[QUOTE=Tropea317;2186380]Give us 1 years to get out of euro and will be 90% Austrian and 10% Italian for the loss we will get.[/QUOTE]If that happens, it is probably the end of Wellcum unfortunately.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2186463]If that happens, it is probably the end of Wellcum unfortunately.[/QUOTE]If Italy would leave euro and their currency would depreciate against euro, then prices for Italians would become higher, but probably not more as some girls charge for "extras".
Wellcum and other clubs along Italian border would have problems, if such clubs would exist in Italy.
[QUOTE=Itponaus;2186701]If Italy would leave euro and their currency would depreciate against euro, then prices for Italians would become higher, but probably not more as some girls charge for "extras".
Wellcum and other clubs along Italian border would have problems, if such clubs would exist in Italy.[/QUOTE]No problem for no Italians.
Romania are willing to join € in 2024 and Italy get out or better kicked out.
Wellcum replace Romanian chicks with Italian chiks.
Take it or bag it.
Final tap of my 3 club Austrian Tour, I had previously reviewed GT Linz and GT Vienna.
First impression of Wellcum was terrible. The receptionist was nasty and unhelpful. Simply gave me a bathrobe, no towel, and black plastic wristband with no explanation. After I said it was my first time, she walked me around the corner and showed my the slippers. I went inside to the lockers and figured out how to open any locker with the electronic wristband. Noticed a sign saying not to leave valuables in locker. What? Went around the corner to find small valuables lockers. Back to reception. Can I have a key to small lockers? Gave me a key, with different number than my large number inside. Asked a cleaner for a towel. They should turn the receptionist into a cleaner, maybe she will change her attitude. Why do they employ such a rude person who spoils the mood to be your first contact?
Meeting the girls, things improved. Met a few who approached me. I explained I needed to get the feel of the place, they were unaffended, hoping I would come back to them. I was pleasantly surprised to see a fair number of women fully nude. I always like that, and will choose FKK / nude over lingerie / dessous if given the choice.
Went first with Natasha, who attracted me by her big smile, beauty and thin figure, which was unfortunately covered up by a kind of garter belt, covering her up waist to crotch. Why? Her skinny hips and flat tummy are her best aspects. She was nice, pretty, DFK, no upsell, great blowjob, amazing grinding cowgirl. Stayed an hour. For me, a 10. Natural beauty, not a supermodel type.
I missed dinner, it was after midnight. Kind of early closing club. Wanted one more session before closing. One nice looking girl, Mira, turned me down for DFK, explaining she sometimes did, but only for special guys. Well, I guess I wasn't special, so that turned off the vibe. Finally went with Russian Viktoria, not my usual type, kind of thick, discreet silicon, but her face was nice, we had a good connection. Sure enough, Great BBBJ, absolutely no teeth, which is often a problem with skinny girls with small mouths. Lots of time after CIM, no clock watching. Good choice if the extra kg aren't important.
Observations on Austrian clubs: Great that one doesn't have to bargain for BBBJ. This is a real necessity for me, and not having the pressure to make sure it will happen is worth the higher price of Austria. Which at 70 for half an hour adds up. In the end though, you remember and appreciate the sessions, not the few hundred lost on higher costs over many days of mongering. No upsell in 3 clubs. I think I will choose Austria over Germany in the future, and would like to try other clubs, some of which I listed in a post in General Info.
[QUOTE=Takedown;2187890]I've had five different girls at Wellcum. One gave kissing for free but denied a monger a I was with. Another gave kisses to me and all fellow mongers. Another said she kiss but gave only baby kisses. A fourth said she usually charges 30 E but did not charge me because we had a one hour session and partook in some smoking herb. The fifth strictly said 30 Euro even if we went for an hour.
So that's 1 girl who kissed every one, 1 girl who chooses based on client preference, 1 who gave bad kissing, and 2 who usually charge extra. Point is, albeit with my limited sample size, but above average success rate at other clubs, the rate of free kissing at Wellcum is less than half guaranteed but not out of the question.
(My attempt of keeping information on this board objective).[/QUOTE](Copied the above from the Oceans thread.).
Marhaba, Takedown. Thank you for the objective information. This is why I hang out at ISG and not BS factories like ijsberenforum.
I guess FKKs can be classed into three types.
Class_A: no discussion of DFK, it's automatically included in the service.
Class_B: you have to ask before you go with a girl.
Class_C: it's rarely if ever done.
I was calling Wellcum Class_C, but I stand corrected by your information as well as Zumboit's recent update below. It's a Class_B FKK.
My own opinion is that all FKKs should be Class A. Since the beginning of forever, kissing has been part of sex in Western civilization. Selling sex without kissing is like selling a hotel room without a bed. It shouldn't really be necessary to ask at all. But if it is necessary, you better make damn sure you do ask or you will be lying on the floor!
I remember Living Room was a Class_A, then it drifted into Class_B territory and I stopped going.
Yes, Wellcum is kind of class be, better to ask, but Natali, pity if she is silicon now, Darla, Rita kiss, and my top GFE Romanian Eve was really a passionate kisser.
Some new girls at LR are now CBJ and no kissing, claiming they worked in Switzerland.
Things change.
According to your list of club ratings, Wellcum has girls from all 3 categories. So far I have only talked to 2 girls at Wellcum who completely said no to kissing (class C). 7 or 8 girls in class be (if I add a few who I just talked to). One of whom fell down from class a to be between my 2 visits.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2188624]According to your list of club ratings, Wellcum has girls from all 3 categories. So far I have only talked to 2 girls at Wellcum who completely said no to kissing (class C). 7 or 8 girls in class be (if I add a few who I just talked to). One of whom fell down from class a to be between my 2 visits.[/QUOTE]This was not a classification for girls. It was a classification for FKKs. If some of the girls kiss and some of them don't, then you have to ask. So the FKK is a Class_B.
[QUOTE=Takedown;2187890]I've had five different girls at Wellcum. One gave kissing for free but denied a monger a I was with. Another gave kisses to me and all fellow mongers. Another said she kiss but gave only baby kisses. A fourth said she usually charges 30 E but did not charge me because we had a one hour session and partook in some smoking herb. The fifth strictly said 30 Euro even if we went for an hour.
So that's 1 girl who kissed every one, 1 girl who chooses based on client preference, 1 who gave bad kissing, and 2 who usually charge extra. Point is, albeit with my limited sample size, but above average success rate at other clubs, the rate of free kissing at Wellcum is less than half guaranteed but not out of the question.
(My attempt of keeping information on this board objective).[/QUOTE]Kissing for free? LOL. Baby kisses is not real kissing.
Sounds like just bad odds there. Basically, the service sucks there(how do you like that for objective? LOL)
But, was the service good is the question? Was it DFK? Do you know what good service is?
On average, Wellcum girls services level can t compete with Globe nor GT Bruggen, but some really pretty looks and like in any club, can sometimes find a top girl, to stay 4 days, driving 200 kms per day, to have 6 1 hour rooms with her. I don t remember I did this with any other girl, of course it was mainly about Zoncolan, but she really did worth: Queen of kissing, waiting I took care of her, wide opening her legs.
Girls average level in clubs is on par with kind of clients, mostly Italians at Wellcum.
Copied from Villach / Klagenfurt Thread to get some visibility.
What is a good BJ?
I asked myself whether I should share my recent experience with Andreea at Wellcum (ex Marina) with you. She has caused me to question my whole life BJ experience. I have decided to share; read on if you are willing to waste a few minutes on BJ technique and philosophy.
My background: BJs from about 100 different women over 30 years.
I went to this room with 'normal' expectations. Andreea's technique is full on kissing then down to BJ. She does tasty all around licking and then dives (no other word for it) down all the way applying sensuous lip / mouth pressure to every part. I am not so large but was firmly taken into her throat at the base of each stroke (effectively f**king her throat). Here she pauses and proceeds to slip her tongue out and flick it all around. She continues this at different pressures and speeds with a ready smile, eye contact and occasional pauses to clear her mouth. She put me in into some kind of joyful 'shock' I have never experienced before.
I call a pause and we chat about all this and I decide to experiment. I am particularly sensitive along the inner upper thigh and where the thighs join the crotch. I ask her to use her hands to finger this area while she's 'blowing'.
No problem! She gets a motion going that reminded me of the pistons of a steam railway engine. She's rocking her hands back and forwards into my creases in time with her head going all the way down and up like before. Superb!
But then I feel her natural breasts are softly teasing my inner thighs as she moves. We talk some more, she gets out some oil and oils her breasts. Off we go again. I am now close to stimulation overload. She is using lips / mouth on the shaft, tongue around the balls, throat on the head, hands around the scrotum / creases and tits on my thighs.
This is, without question, the best BJ of my life.
If you visit Andreea, please be gentle and repectful of her; she's precious to me. And, of course, sadly for you, YMMV.
I'm thinking that every previous BJ was a missed opportunity. But thank the fates she's educated me.
D.
Would welcome experienced mongers thoughts on what makes a top quality BJ. (BBBJ, goes without saying!) the.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2188624]According to your list of club ratings, Wellcum has girls from all 3 categories. So far I have only talked to 2 girls at Wellcum who completely said no to kissing (class C). 7 or 8 girls in class be (if I add a few who I just talked to). One of whom fell down from class a to be between my 2 visits.[/QUOTE]Something must have happened to my post. I think I added more. But: also 8 girls in class a.
[QUOTE=Polyamorist;2188738]This was not a classification for girls. It was a classification for FKKs. If some of the girls kiss and some of them don't, then you have to ask. So the FKK is a Class_B.[/QUOTE]Yes, but which clubs are purely class a then? And does such clubs have a higher than low optics average?
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2188774]Kissing for free? LOL. Baby kisses is not real kissing.
Sounds like just bad odds there. Basically, the service sucks there(how do you like that for objective? LOL)
But, was the service good is the question? Was it DFK? Do you know what good service is?[/QUOTE]A good strategy on knowing what good service is, is to go with girls in the room and spend your money 80-20 on girls as opposed to entry fees. 20-80 is objectively a bad strategy on these matters.
Sirioja and PL: how in the world can you both define the service levels at Wellcum when you have not even been with more than 5-6 girls at most? But from my point of view, service levels are abovr GT bruggen.
I won't define the club by average service levels, but I can say that the impression I am getting is that it is a fragmented club. Much like Artemis was in the past before some groups took over and ruined the whole club with their cartel ideas. The danger is that wellcum will turn into this also. The first hint is the reports of 30 e extra for kissing. I hope I won't experience that myself, and that it will die out. The italians over on the ita forum are going nuts about it and discuss trying to stop it constantly. Maybe it is the influx of some overpaying tourists. I hope not.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2188910]Yes, but which clubs are purely class a then? And does such clubs have a higher than low optics average?[/QUOTE]Well, some people would say the Imperium clubs like Globe are Class A, because DFK is explicitly included in the price. If you don't get it, you have the right to complain and it will matter. Also, the optics are higher than average.
However, I would say they are A-minus because of the heavy control. You can't turn lead into gold by the application of rules. What clubs need to do is filter, not control. (And this implies a wide and diverse application pool. I feel clubs could increase the talent pool a hundred-fold if they would only use their resources to look beyond Romania. They are being lazy. Ya hasrety.).
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2188774]Kissing for free? LOL. Baby kisses is not real kissing.[/QUOTE]Ya Kharaashy, Honorable Liccker! I had a girl try this on with me recently.
Before the session I had asked her and made sure kissing was included. But when we got to the room she would only do LFK.
What did I do? I just sat there in a comfortable chair. No stress. I'm good at sitting. Not Ghandi-level, but pretty good. Sitting is a poor man's WWE.
She was not so good at sitting. In fact she was going mental, seeing that I would not continue. She was making all sorts of excuses, pointing to her mouth. Apparently she had a mixture of tooth injury, involuntary vomiting, and mouth cancer.
I'm good with that.
Next, she was saying that I was not tender enough and if only I had trust in her and treated her softly, maybe she would feel good enough to kiss during sex.
Not really interested. No Action Required.
She was frantic. Kept on making excuses for five to ten minutes.
Finally she folded. We did real DFK. The funny thing was that she started to get really into it. It was like she was thirsty because she hadn't done DFK in a long time. Which kind of makes sense if she was refusing it to everybody!
What would have happened if she had carried on resisting and nothing happened for the whole thirty minutes? I don't know. But it probably would have gone worse for her than for me. In this FKK they had decent management and a good system where you pay at reception so you always have a chance to mention if something went wrong during the session. Like, um, no sex at all.
But that didn't happen. Actually it was really smoking after the initial modesty was overcome. I think DFK turns a girl on, gets the blood hot. Not to mention the health benefits to both parties I have talked about before.
You might say I lost five to ten minutes of the session. But the session ended up taking thirty-five minutes, and I was not charged extra.
By the way, if you copy my technique and it doesn't work, don't sue me in court. It just means you are in a Class_C FKK. There are some places that are so far gone you can't do anything for them, or for yourself. But you just move on till you find a Class_B and try again. If all guys did this, all FKKs would be Class A.
Recently met a girl at Samya that came from Welcum. 50 Euros extra for kissing she says. She had no rooms the whole night, made no attempts to make any business. She was probably used this this standard at Welcum. That had me thinking with what Takedown said about extra 30 for kissing. Which adds up to 100 Euros for 30 min. I've encountered this at GT Vienna as well. 40 Euros extra for kissing. I guess the upsell is 100 including kissing for half HR in Austria.
Pay a bit more at Globe and you get DFK at Globe with better full on service.
Either way, just a quick money drain.
I am guessing the girl you met at Samya was Irene? She used to work at Oceans, then Samya for maybe a year. She didn't stay more than 2-3 months at Wellcum however. So I believe she didn't pick up much during that time. But maybe she just got carried away by having worked in a more expensive club. Then going back to stinky Samya (downstairs always smells) thinking she could pull the same or even higher price. I also met 2 girls in Germany who came from Wellcum. Both DFK'ed heavily the whole time. It could be random. And it could be a turn for the worse in the whole industry. Lets wait and see.
Poly: Love your ingenuity. May try it one day. Haha.
Hello,
Have you ever had a footjob in Wellcum?
If yes, how much extra €€ the girls want for this?
[QUOTE=Pistons;2189176]Sirioja and PL: how in the world can you both define the service levels at Wellcum when you have not even been with more than 5-6 girls at most? But from my point of view, service levels are abovr GT bruggen.
I won't define the club by average service levels, but I can say that the impression I am getting is that it is a fragmented club. Much like Artemis was in the past before some groups took over and ruined the whole club with their cartel ideas. The danger is that wellcum will turn into this also. The first hint is the reports of 30 e extra for kissing. I hope I won't experience that myself, and that it will die out. The italians over on the ita forum are going nuts about it and discuss trying to stop it constantly. Maybe it is the influx of some overpaying tourists. I hope not.[/QUOTE]7 days spent at Wellcum on August 2016 and 2017, 8 girls tried, 1 high GFE level on my last 2016 night, 1 top GFE girl for my 4 days on 2017. When you are at Wellcum for 4 days, girls notice you, ask you if you sleep in the club, ask you if you want to take them for the night. I remember a really beautiful brunette sitting just on the left when entering the lounge, saying not kissing on first day, coming to me on second day telling she was OK to kiss for extra, returning on 3 Road day telling she wanted to go with me and kissing, but then I smelled she didn't have so good breathe and I was married with my Eve. Many girls who came to me, left when I asked about kissing.
I visit GT Bruggen nearly every week end, OK I always go with same girls, like with my Wellcum Eve, because even GT casting is very average compare to last August at Wellcum, but few GT attractive girls for me are high level in bed. GT is for me higher level than LR 2018, in bed. Some new LR girls are very average.
[QUOTE=Darster;2189441]Hello,
Have you ever had a footjob in Wellcum?
If yes, how much extra the girls want for this?[/QUOTE]I think in the range 30/50€.
For example prostate massage quote is that range.
When you go inside start asking the girl interested will came to you don t be shy.
[QUOTE=Darster;2189441]Hello,
Have you ever had a footjob in Wellcum?
If yes, how much extra the girls want for this?[/QUOTE]Not that I here had one in Wellcum but that is usually not an extra service to pay for. Should be included. If not then 20-30 max.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2188774]Kissing for free? LOL. Baby kisses is not real kissing.
Sounds like just bad odds there. Basically, the service sucks there(how do you like that for objective? LOL)
But, was the service good is the question? Was it DFK? Do you know what good service is?[/QUOTE]Wellcum is an amenities and optics club. My post was to detail my account of the kissing rates at Wellcum, no more.
I've never had absolutely terrible detached sex doll service at Wellcum. The worst were non kissing ones. The best were absolute honeymoon sex marathons.
I know a bit about good service. Since I am neither a socially awkward and / or physically unattractive monger I tend to get better service than most mongers. YMMV is a common phrase which basically means if one person thinks a girl's service is bad then it might actually be that it was bad for him because the girls finds him physically repulsive.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2189245]Recently met a girl at Samya that came from Welcum. 50 Euros extra for kissing she says. She had no rooms the whole night, made no attempts to make any business. She was probably used this this standard at Welcum. That had me thinking with what Takedown said about extra 30 for kissing. Which adds up to 100 Euros for 30 min. I've encountered this at GT Vienna as well. 40 Euros extra for kissing. I guess the upsell is 100 including kissing for half HR in Austria.
Pay a bit more at Globe and you get DFK at Globe with better full on service.
Either way, just a quick money drain.[/QUOTE]If comparing 100 euro to 140 Francs, I'the pick Wellcum over Globe, always. It's a better club and has hotter girls at the top end of the line up. I think the legend of Globe optics and service is quite overblown. The FKK poster who touts Globe most often proclaims that he is a "one girl guy" anyway, so that info is obviously lacking in sample size if he is to be taken at his world.
The greatness of Globe is a myth, exaggerated lore. It's a club full of hot bodies, okay faces, and consistently above average service. Wellcum provides better amenities, better food, and hotter top girls. If paying upselling rates, then Wellcum has just as good service for cheaper than Globe rates.
The optics at Wellcum has apparently been going in an upwards trajectory ever since the club opened according to some Italians. And this spring (not high season) it was equally good as last summer (high season). But looking at the lineup the past 2 weeks, a few too many top girls are missing. Although one Bulgarian I know from elsewhere has started working there, and she is a top optic also with good service. Like many of the top girls I meet elsewhere say, they won't work in FKK's. But apparently Wellcum is the only club that managed to draw her in. But I do hope the top girls not around right now will return. Otherwise the draw of Wellcum is slipping, as the lineup now in late may / early June doesn't impress that much from the website. (A few new ones I don't know are there however).
Maybe some well known monger with good taste will take a look in July?
[QUOTE=Pistons;2191086]But looking at the lineup the past 2 weeks, a few too many top girls are missing.[/QUOTE]Were you there in last 2 weeks? I don't think so.
[QUOTE=Itponaus;2192141]Were you there in last 2 weeks? I don't think so.[/QUOTE]Veniamo. It.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2192552]Veniamo. It.[/QUOTE]I was there last week. About half of girls, I talked with them or was in a room don't have profile at veniamo. It. It's true, that in June work less girls there as in August (during Ferragosto). I met only one girl, I was in a room with her in last four years.
Yesterday first Sat at Wellcum after two days in GT Wien. This lineup dropped less rather Sep of last year. First I tried German huge boobies. Average body shape. Average mood. No surprise in bed. Next I repeat this Spanish brunette curvy slim (last dirty blond). No chemistry at this time. A few top girls are missing. Watch her many upstairs and downstairs with clients. Haha hot pussy and urgent cum. Anyway finally have good punting with one Bu from Andiamo.
[QUOTE=Itponaus;2193037]I was there last week. About half of girls, I talked with them or was in a room don't have profile at veniamo. It. It's true, that in June work less girls there as in August (during Ferragosto). I met only one girl, I was in a room with her in last four years.[/QUOTE]OK that blows. Back in March I didn't meet a single girl at Wellcum who was not also at Veniamo.
[QUOTE=MikeTk1974;2193241]Yesterday first Sat at Wellcum after two days in GT Wien. This lineup dropped less rather Sep of last year. First I tried German huge boobies. Average body shape. Average mood. No surprise in bed. Next I repeat this Spanish brunette curvy slim (last dirty blond). No chemistry at this time. A few top girls are missing. Watch her many upstairs and downstairs with clients. Haha hot pussy and urgent cum. Anyway finally have good punting with one Bu from Andiamo.[/QUOTE]Second day at WellcumClubFkk. No surprise. 1 session with busty Ro. Found a less saggy busty Ro like pornstar Vanessa Decker. She only appeared and together with her Italian SugarDad. They lived in hotel. Her high heel shows her not WG. Damn it!
[QUOTE=Pistons;2193247]OK that blows. Back in March I didn't meet a single girl at Wellcum who was not also at Veniamo.[/QUOTE]The Veniamo web site is occasionally up-to-date, but more often not. Better source of present girls are some posts on italian forums.
[QUOTE=Itponaus;2193591]The Veniamo web site is occasionally up-to-date, but more often not. Better source of present girls are some posts on italian forums.[/QUOTE]Indeed, bit they rarely mention a full lineup there. At least the italian forum I follow. And the translator blows sometimes. Here is an example:
Let's go back to us. I saw many absences of the girls I met: Kristal comes back today, Kim, Sonja, Angie, Daria, Crina, Rita, Gloria, Bella. And others I saw but can not remember the names.
Impossible to read if these are absent, or present from this comment. I'd give it a higher chance of them being there than not, but can't be 100% sure. About half of the mentioned names are on Veniamo. Another name mentioned there: GYA is not even on Veniamo at all. So must be a brand new girl.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2193684]Indeed, bit they rarely mention a full lineup there. At least the italian forum I follow. And the translator blows sometimes. Here is an example:
Let's go back to us. I saw many absences of the girls I met: Kristal comes back today, Kim, Sonja, Angie, Daria, Crina, Rita, Gloria, Bella. And others I saw but can not remember the names.
Impossible to read if these are absent, or present from this comment. I'd give it a higher chance of them being there than not, but can't be 100% sure. About half of the mentioned names are on Veniamo. Another name mentioned there: GYA is not even on Veniamo at all. So must be a brand new girl.[/QUOTE]Yes, full line up is rarely mentioned there, but often some more popular girls are mentioned. Translation is really ambiguous. About two weeks ago I didn't meet any of listed girls. It was in the middle of week, when some girls don't work. Gya could be the same one, who worked in Wellcum already and returned recently from Andiamo or somewhere else.
I have been to Globe, Sharks and GT. How do the ladies compare on average to Wellcum?
I visited Circolo Passion in Innsbruck for the first time yesterday evening.
High 85 euros entrance fee, and high 70 euros for 30 minutes!
The style of the club was very modern, just like Flamingo Island near Karlsruhe that I visited in May, and Sakura near Stuttgart.
In fact the layout was also very similar to Flamingo Island. It had a bar at the bottom with amphitheatre kind of seating around it, and with the sauna, jacuzzi and other facilities at a higher level looking down into the bar counter. I like the rooms as they had big beds and an attached shower!
There were about 15 girls present, all fully nude. The quality of the looks of the girls was very similar to those I saw at Colosseum the previous day. 3-4 very pretty ones, about 5 reasonably attractive, and 5 mediocre.
There were no uglies as this is a non-approach club. This further reinforces my view that I have not seen uglies in totally nude non-approach clubs like Colosseum and Babylon as such girls cannot survive there.
I had extended sessions with the prettiest one there followed by sessions with the 2nd prettiest. Still a few more attractive ones left to try. Shan't mention who they are as it seems that no one in this forum visits this place, since the reports in this thread talks mainly about Wellcum.
[QUOTE=PGTour;2194664]I have been to Globe, Sharks and GT. How do the ladies compare on average to Wellcum?[/QUOTE]High level casting for looks at Wellcum on last August.
High level casting at Globe on April, not same exceptionnal casting now.
Average casting at GT on 2018.
Good casting at Sharks at the moment.
On average, Wellcum can't compete with Globe or GT for level in bed, because Italian level and they are not so demanding, but I found a super GFE Romanian to enjoy for 6 1 hour rooms on my 4 visits around Ferragosto.
[QUOTE=PGTour;2194664]I have been to Globe, Sharks and GT. How do the ladies compare on average to Wellcum?[/QUOTE]I have not been to Globe.
Sharks has the most girls, but I feel Wellcum has more top girls, especially in the weekends I always see more than 10 top lookers. At Sharks, many of the top girls for me have more loose schedules and I find anything from 5-12 top lookers. At Wellcum the lineup is more consistent. The average looks at Wellcum is higher and maybe the top of the tops at Wellcum is slightly hotter too. Top girls at Wellcum upsell less than some of the new upsell lot at sharks. I suppose more or less understandable in a way given the 20 e higher 30 min price.
GT is not in the same league.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2194743] Shan't mention who they are as it seems that no one in this forum visits this place, since the reports in this thread talks mainly about Wellcum.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report, but isn't the idea that somebody needs to break the first ice and start? The next guy that visits circolo passion might have an interest. Nice to have Colosseum and Circolo passion at their locations if doing a tour aside from the most travelled parts.
I visited CP again yesterday. There were just a handfull of additional girls, making a total of 20.
As before, there were no uglies at all, and I found most attractive enough to be doable. The 'fully nude' policy allowed me to have good looks of every single one.
The 2 girls I sessioned with on Thursday were around and tried hard to attract my attention. But as I had only time for 2 girls, I avoided looking at their smiles, and went for what I considered the 3rd and 4th prettiest girls present. Again, they provided good service and good GFE.
Circolo Passion is very easy to get to by public transport. Bus 'F' that runs frequently from the Innsbruck Hbf stops almost at its doorstep, and the journey takes just 13 minutes.
[QUOTE=Kuni042;2185232]How many Austrians or Germans are in the club on average?[/QUOTE]Probably ZERO. hehe
[QUOTE=Takedown;2191037]Wellcum is an amenities and optics club. My post was to detail my account of the kissing rates at Wellcum, no more.
I've never had absolutely terrible detached sex doll service at Wellcum. The worst were non kissing ones. The best were absolute honeymoon sex marathons.
I know a bit about good service. Since I am neither a socially awkward and / or physically unattractive monger I tend to get better service than most mongers. YMMV is a common phrase which basically means if one person thinks a girl's service is bad then it might actually be that it was bad for him because the girls finds him physically repulsive.[/QUOTE]I had a pretty decent time at Wellcum.
About the same odds of kissing as you, but no upsell (which was a pleasant surprise). Girls expect simple 30 min rooms it seems, and there are some good service providers if you find them. None of the ones I took pressured for 1hr or longer.
As far as the LU, pretty ok, not amazing, but there is the usual top 4-5 optics. What made it great was a top optic provided good honest services, no upsell. That always leaves a good impression for me. This club doesn't seem to be the club for long rooming stars.
There is wifi at this club. So yeah, I'd give this club more visits.
I'd recommend to sample at least 3 here to get a decent idea of services. My first session was pretty bad, and I had a bad impression, but started running into better session as I got with more girls. The one top optic good provider at the end was the topper that left a good impression.
This place reminds me of Oase back in the early days. I'd say service level is about the same level as Sharks.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2110965]
Angie does have that upturned nose and a bit unconventional hip shape. Not sure which girl she would remind me the most of.[/QUOTE]Hey Piston,
Would you say that Angie has a striking resemblance to this hot babe (American porn star Elsa Jean)?
I was at Wellcum in early June. Got to fuck Angie again. Man she is so sexy. Can't wait for her to come back. Also saw Nia in a catfight with some other girl. Also went to check out FKK Marina in Slovenia. Nice club but not as good as Wellcum.
Howie.
[QUOTE=Howie;2198246]Hey Piston,
Would you say that Angie has a striking resemblance to this hot babe (American porn star Elsa Jean)?
I was at Wellcum in early June. Got to fuck Angie again. Man she is so sexy. Can't wait for her to come back. Also saw Nia in a catfight with some other girl. Also went to check out FKK Marina in Slovenia. Nice club but not as good as Wellcum.
Howie.[/QUOTE]Nope, not much resemblance. I think Elsa Jean is slightly shorter, and has more of a Scandinavian (perhaps Norwegian) look, while Angie looks more Baltic (Latvian perhaps). There are plenty of pics of Angie in the 2018 calendar available to download from the website though. And her face can be seen fully also. But I guess them both being natural real blondes (and not the dark blonde / brunette variety many people also call blonde) is somewhat of a similarity, if anything.
[QUOTE=Howie;2198246]Hey Piston,
Would you say that Angie has a striking resemblance to this hot babe (American porn star Elsa Jean)?
I was at Wellcum in early June. Got to fuck Angie again. Man she is so sexy. Can't wait for her to come back. Also saw Nia in a catfight with some other girl. Also went to check out FKK Marina in Slovenia. Nice club but not as good as Wellcum.
Howie.[/QUOTE]She is great though. Hope she is around in August too. But I think I will just do GT Vienna and wellcum on that trip. No plans on rechecking up on Marina at the moment. From what I hear at the moment GT Vienna lineup may be at wellcum levels, while marina as you say is a slight notch below. Even if it is a good club too.
[QUOTE=Howie;2198246]Hey Piston,
Would you say that Angie has a striking resemblance to this hot babe (American porn star Elsa Jean)?
[/QUOTE]Pictures of Elsa Jean.
Howie.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2195396]I visited CP again yesterday. There were just a handfull of additional girls, making a total of 20.
As before, there were no uglies at all, and I found most attractive enough to be doable. The 'fully nude' policy allowed me to have good looks of every single one.
[/QUOTE]Sounds interesting. I'm staying in Bolzano and was planning a day trip to Innsbruck-was not aware that there was an FKK club there!
Was doing RTFF. Are the girls charging extra for kissing (I'm guessing "FK" is French Kissing)? Did I read that right?
Holy shit!
Rocco Siffredi will be at Wellcum for the 21 July's Pool Party.
Should be interesting. I wonder if he'll be performing. Whose going?
Howie.
Good to see Julia back, elegantly gorgeous as before. Moroccan Christina looking stunning. New girl Michele (ex Babylon Salzburg) was a 'personal trainer' and it shows. 'Red' Daria on top form. And GFE Andreea is still an angel.
Hope Rocco brings some girls to the Pool Party!
Cristina is about as Moroccan as Draculina. But don't bother about that, her attitude is great. Still haven't tried, but her eyes read honesty. Except for the moroccan part LOL.
Rocco should have come for the August party instead. Will miss him now. Crazy how they can get a legend like him there though.
But the pornstar they had there at the Wellcum party was just walking around, and was one of the judges voting on the lesser miss titles. No fucking at all. Then again, she probably has 20 girls at the club much sexier than her. So no loss. With Rocco it will probably be the same, as in no fucking. But he is just famous and has industry connections anyway, so I don't think it would be a loss. But they are probably just paying for his presence.
He is Italian, Wellcum is a Italian club, located in Austria because forbidden by Vatican.
Porn is fake, some porn actress are not good for real sex, some are even shy women. Porn is just low level business for frustrated. Some of my lovely GFE Romanians are far higher level in bed, and cheaper.
Sabina at Oase / Ramona at Sharks was really prettier than Scarlet Johanson, when Ira doesn't really look like.
[QUOTE=Howie;2198841]Holy shit!
Rocco Siffredi will be at Wellcum for the 21 July's Pool Party.
Should be interesting. I wonder if he'll be performing. Whose going?
Howie.[/QUOTE]Maybe Rocco will be able to take a free ride!
[QUOTE=Creideiki;2198734]Are the girls charging extra for kissing (I'm guessing "FK" is French Kissing)? Did I read that right?[/QUOTE]No extra. But sorry, I am not sure where you obtained 'FK' from.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2199412]No extra. But sorry, I am not sure where you obtained 'FK' from.[/QUOTE]From post #3 in this topic:
[QUOTE]Entry fee 80.
Girl 60 for 30 mintues including BBBJ, DATY, FS.
Extra: FK 20, CIM 50, COB 30, anal 100. [/QUOTE]The other codes I know. (That's a big premium for CIM, by the way). So I'm not sure what "FK" is.
[QUOTE=Creideiki;2199507]From post #3 in this topic:
The other codes I know. (That's a big premium for CIM, by the way). So I'm not sure what "FK" is.[/QUOTE]My mistake, sorry.
[QUOTE=Howie;2198841]Holy shit!
Rocco Siffredi will be at Wellcum for the 21 July's Pool Party.
Should be interesting. I wonder if he'll be performing. Whose going?
Howie.[/QUOTE]Hello everyone,
I plan my first visit to Wellcum while I'm on vacation at the end of this month and I was hoping for some event. This pool party sounds tempting but I do not know what to expect. I suppose there will be a big crowd. How does it work then, can you come to a girl and take her to the room or you have to wait in line and hope you get your turn. I do not know what to do. Should I skip the event and go over the week? What do you think (those who have experience with visits during the event).
[QUOTE=EscoerBuddy;2199699]Hello everyone,
I plan my first visit to Wellcum while I'm on vacation at the end of this month and I was hoping for some event. This pool party sounds tempting but I do not know what to expect. I suppose there will be a big crowd. How does it work then, can you come to a girl and take her to the room or you have to wait in line and hope you get your turn. I do not know what to do. Should I skip the event and go over the week? What do you think (those who have experience with visits during the event).[/QUOTE]I think any event has its own rules, but the parties at Wellcum are generally crowded with lots of guys and girls. Only you know yourself what you want. But unless the girl you want to go with in particular is part of some game or contest during the party, I don't think there is anything resembling a line. But of course like at any FKK, some girls are busier than others and harder to catch. And there is always something to not stressing out in case random Joe snatches your girl by the lounge entrance. Lots of horny dudes at any FKK can get a bit overly crazy in love sometimes. So they book their girls in advance. But thankful less so at Wellcum than in one or two German FKK's as far as I have noticed.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2200063]I think any event has its own rules, but the parties at Wellcum are generally crowded with lots of guys and girls. Only you know yourself what you want. But unless the girl you want to go with in particular is part of some game or contest during the party, I don't think there is anything resembling a line. But of course like at any FKK, some girls are busier than others and harder to catch. And there is always something to not stressing out in case random Joe snatches your girl by the lounge entrance. Lots of horny dudes at any FKK can get a bit overly crazy in love sometimes. So they book their girls in advance. But thankful less so at Wellcum than in one or two German FKK's as far as I have noticed.[/QUOTE]I was at the party 2 years ago.
For fuck it s a hard day.
The top are reserved waiting For friends well known.
The other you can find from 1200 to 2200 t'han also these disappear.
What remain? The ugly and the bar fuck.
[QUOTE=Tropea317;2200210]I was at the party 2 years ago.
For fuck it s a hard day.
The top are reserved waiting For friends well known.
The other you can find from 1200 to 2200 t'han also these disappear.
What remain? The ugly and the bar fuck.[/QUOTE]Sounds bad. But at miss Wellcum in March I didn't have any issues. Then again I had a shortlist of 10 girls, so at any time at least one of them were available even if 5 of them were busy with the contest half the night.
I stopped by Wellcum Tuesday after couple days at GT Vienna. Sat LU had more girls and definately Majority of the top optics weren't there, limited in number of girls. Sat was ok LU, but Tuesday was pretty bad in terms of selection. There was a bacholar party crew there Sat, so it was quite the sausagefest like Oceans on a weekend night. It turned into a fuck factory. LoL. This club is like Oceans (of DE) really than Sharks. I do get get better service at Sharks. LU wasn't all that great, and given it's in the middle of nowhere, not worth the trip.
This club does have not so good reputation of service. I was talkin to an Italian guy and he said the avg service there isn't good, he attend Andiamo for better service, but LU doesn't compare in terms of quality and optics. He is a vetran of German clubs.
GT Vienna LU was definately better, and this was even on Monday night. If I go to Austria again, I'd do GT Vienna. Top services was definately better although upselling is much greater there. Facilities or food isn't as good, but LU was definately better and consistant throughout the days.
So did you pay more pay GT Vienna than at Wellcum? And if so, how can you know Wellcum has worse service? Or did you just skip the upsellers at GT Vienna? And if so, how can you compare the leftovers at GT Vienna to 100% of the Wellcum girls? I feel your statements are bit incoherent.
[QUOTE=Dubner32;2185380]P, Thanks for info.
Whatever it was, something must have stimulated her to leave a known secure 'well-paying' environment and go freelancing in an unknown (to her) country.
I will get a better understanding when I catch up with her.
D.[/QUOTE]Lorena? By the way, I don't think you are that far away from reaching senior member level in order to get private messages.
I met a fellow sauna club fan at Wellcum yesterday who said there was a similar club near the Brenner Road south of Innsbruck just north of the Italian border. I can find no trace of this place doing internet searches. Any thoughts or pointers. Or a name! Please.
Pistons, thanks for interest. The girl in question is back at W and was cruising around naked last night.
Glorious!
As you might expect, the reason to try other options was simple: money. The fact she is back implies the effort was not worth the reward.
In addition to posts, there is a time bar on Senior Membership and I don't think I've passed it yet.
D.
[QUOTE=Dubner32;2203551]The girl in question is back at W and was cruising around naked last night.
[/QUOTE]Now I'm curious Dubner32.
Could it be Lorena per Piston's guess? In a prior post you mentioned your stunner girl had a tit job 15 months ago. As far as I know Lorena's tits are all natural and absolutely gorgeous. But she's not a kisser so that would satisfy the partial profile about being not interested in Globe. If not Lorena, could you provide a description of her if not by name? i.e blonde/brunette, height, tit size, tattoos if any, nationality if not Romanian, etc.
By the way, are you at Wellcum for the Pool party tonight?
If anyone did go, could they do a trip report back? Like to know if Rocco did any performances and details of the girl(s) he fucked if any.
Thanks Howie.
Well Lorena is not back, so that rules her out. It could be Amelia however. I can't recall if Amelia had a tit job or not. But more than that, Lorena not being back at the same time as her friend Amelia is worrisome. Other girls reported as back lately is Soraya, but she hasn't been there for those 15 months either. So unless it is someone I haven't mentioned myself, I suppose it must be Amelia.
[QUOTE=Dubner32;2203549]I met a fellow sauna club fan at Wellcum yesterday who said there was a similar club near the Brenner Road south of Innsbruck just north of the Italian border. I can find no trace of this place doing internet searches. Any thoughts or pointers. Or a name! Please.[/QUOTE]Did he specify that it was by the border? Or just 'near the Brenner road south of Innsbruck'? In which case it could be Circolo Passion. But the direction given does sound a bit odd. I can't find anything either.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2203753]Did he specify that it was by the border? Or just 'near the Brenner road south of Innsbruck'? In which case it could be Circolo Passion. But the direction given does sound a bit odd. I can't find anything either.[/QUOTE]Maybe refers to circolo passion in Innsbruck.
Girls nude look BBBJ mandatory and the customer have to make the first move.
Yes. He said 5 km into Austria, not in the city and not 'Circolo'. I can only think he must have been somehow mistaken. Apologies for the wasted time braining searching.
Shame. I was looking forward to a shorter drive and proximity to other ski areas.
Never actually been to Circolo Passion, how does it compare to Wellcum?
Will post general report on Wellcum Pool Party with Rocco shortly.
The.
[QUOTE=Dubner32;2204242]Yes. He said 5 km into Austria, not in the city and not 'Circolo'. I can only think he must have been somehow mistaken. Apologies for the wasted time braining searching.
Shame. I was looking forward to a shorter drive and proximity to other ski areas.
Never actually been to Circolo Passion, how does it compare to Wellcum?[/QUOTE]I'll be driving from Bolzano / Bozen to Innsbruck in October, headed for Circolo Passion, but will keep an eye out just in case something is just over the frontier.
[QUOTE=Dubner32;2204242]Yes. He said 5 km into Austria, not in the city and not 'Circolo'. I can only think he must have been somehow mistaken. Apologies for the wasted time braining searching.
Shame. I was looking forward to a shorter drive and proximity to other ski areas.
Never actually been to Circolo Passion, how does it compare to Wellcum?
Will post general report on Wellcum Pool Party with Rocco shortly.
The.[/QUOTE]If the info is right maybe refers to a swinger club, a place where go single and couple.
There s a lot in Austria, buy you find nothing in internet.
These place are known in little circle of people it's difficult for a single unknown or not Austrian to enter.
You never ask yourself where fuck the Austrian?
Entry: normal E85. Weather: Cloudy with showers (not best for pool party). Girls: at least 80; probably 120 (hard to be precise). Mostly familiar W faces. Bears: probably 170 by 6 PM.
Party Events:
1550 Water fight with filled ballons (pre-loaded, provided by staff in crates).
1630 Girl v Girl and Bear v Bear 'Sumo'.
1700 Miss Wet Tits Contest compered by Rocco.
1800 Sex Show by porno professional couple (Egyptian theme) on stage built over central part of pool.
2100 Sex Show, same couple, Black Tie / Dracula theme.
Throughout: BBQ plus usual good quality Welcum buffet.
Drums / saxaphone live music on top of DJ.
Despite the poor weather this was a good day at W. I arrived early and had a relaxed session with a favorite then snacked and chatted with some of the girls. The water fight was unannounced; the staff, then the girls just started pelting the bears by the pool / garden with water 'bombs' and most bears joined in. Several people chased their 'targets' around the garden.
The Sumo suits made each wearer almost immobile so this was a bouncing and barging contest. Fun, but not sexy. Maybe girls oil wrestling next time?
For the T shirt contest 40 girls marched out (wearing dry T shirts) and lined up along the pool. Rocco did a good welcome speech in Italian with some English then spoke to each girl and encouraged her to flood her T shirt in an erotic fashion using a water bucket. When all done. The T shirts came off and Rocco led a bunch of bear judges towards choosing a winner. Winner not a girl I know, didn't catch her name, natural B tits. Would not have been my choice but.
Then Rocco introduced the porno acting couple; him a regular fit looking guy; her an Italian style porno star with everything enhanced to just about the limit. They started in ancient Egyptian costumes and worked through a scene from strip to dildo to BJ to multiple athletic position sex.
I missed their second show but noticed them coming out to the indoor performance area in similarly elaborate costumes to start.
Rocco was street casually dressed, compered, chatted with bears and came across as a very personable guy. He did not 'perform' and (at least publicly) gently resisted one of the girls who seemed to be working hard to get a go on his casting couch.
So, an amusing day with several diversions from rooming. Only negatives, unlucky with the weather and about 10 couples waiting to room at peak time. Wait was not long and probably not much longer than any busy Saturday night.
My takeaway: If planning to visit the area, a party would neither drag me in or put me off going to W. About a third of the bears clearly enjoyed the whole 'party' thing and probably make a special effort to attend party days.
And there goes my last top 3 from the Wellcum lineup. Rumor has it Soraya has been kicked out for some reason. (Argument with a customer perhaps). With Natali and Lorena also seeming absent.
Really having doubts concerning this club now with management obviously not knowing who their good girls are.
Replacements aint deffinately going to stand up to the losses now.
If anybody finds out where Soraya went, please bring on the info.
[QUOTE=Dubner32;2204858]He did not 'perform' and (at least publicly) gently resisted one of the girls who seemed to be working hard to get a go on his casting couch.
[/QUOTE]Nice writeup Dubner32 but who was the starlet wannabe?
Howie.
Howie, (All that follows is from the italian review site; loosely translated by me; I can not confirm or deny).
Miss Wet Tits was Evelin, new to W. Reviewed very positively "equal or better in the room than Krystal, Daria or Rosalia".
"Rocco entertained a little show with Rosalia". I saw her flirting at him (both clothed) by the pool. Not aware of any 'show'. Could have been when I was busy but unlikely nobody mentioned in conversation. (When an italian uses an english word it is easy to understand in general but difficult to uncover precisely what they mean.).
Also "I learned of the removal from the club of several girls and one in particular is a great loss Soraya". No further details of who or why departures requested. Soraya is a favorite on the Italian site. Given her popularity and the prevalence of Italian bears at W it seems unlikely she should be 'asked to leave' for anything trivial. Depending on reason for being departure might pop up at Andiamo or Marina.
Not sure I understood it right from the Italian forums Andiamo thread, but I believe Soraya is there now.
So finally after a lot of time I decided I will go to Wellcum. Since anyone didn't written anything good about that event with Rocco and events in generally I decided I will skip that and go on more relaxing day. I arrived at 12 and in first half of day there were 1 guy on 3 girls but after 18 h that was more like 1/1. There ware about 30-40 girls total but to my surprise only 3 of them were to my liking. I am extremely picky and like girls that looks like a supermodel. So after I arrived I talked to one of that 3 I liked since she was next to min sitting in bar and I turn her down on offer for the room since it was too early.
After some time the third one of that 3 I liked came and after some god convincing from her side to go to room I decided to go but with one condition. I wanted her to show me the club first and to my surprise she did. I wanted GFE and make clear to her but in room she ignored it, since it was first time I didn't make a fuss about that.
During the day number of girls came to me and I turn them all down, some was not the type I like and some I asked about kissing and they said that they don't do that, not even for extra. Since I really wanted GFE I was really disappointed by everything. At end I decided to go with the first girl that I speak when I get to club. She was nice but since I turned her down once I think she seemed not interested. Thankful that one girl, definitely the most beautiful at the club that day show up and I just went to her and told her that I would like to go to room with her. And it turns out she really saved the day. She was amazing, I really didn't expect that after what I see and experienced there that day. I didn't even ask anything before we get to room and when I ask about kissing she said she do not do that and if I ask before going to room she would refused to go. At end I gave her tip of 15 E because in my whole life I didn't met a girl they deserved 1 cent but she deserve even more than that and I told her if she was kissing I would give her even more.
Unfortunately I left and did not get a clear answer what is up with kissing at Wellcum, do girls do it or not. My theory is that girls are less attractive actually do kiss but since I was not interested in them ID didn't get a clear answer. Only answer I got was that there maybe is some girls that do it but it is not common.
On the Italian site it is reported that Soraya ex Wellcum has shown up at Andiamo.
[QUOTE=Dubner32;2205057]Also "I learned of the removal from the club of several girls and one in particular is a great loss Soraya". No further details of who or why departures requested. Soraya is a favorite on the Italian site. Given her popularity and the prevalence of Italian bears at W it seems unlikely she should be 'asked to leave' for anything trivial. Depending on reason for being departure might pop up at Andiamo or Marina.[/QUOTE]Well, trivial is a word of various definitions. I have seen girls in Germany being thrown out for various reasons too. But given how Soraya was / is, I find it strange. It was not a medical thing either, so maybe her 'charisma' was too much for one in the management? In which case it only seems like a massive blunder to throw out one of your absolute stars like this.
But she is at Andiamo, so I guess I will check out that place at least one day, and Wellcum will loose one entry. That is how these things go.
Escoer: from my own experience, only two girls I have been in the room with have been non-kissers. Out of 11. But maybe I have been lucky. I have at least said no to a few. But some of these kissers only did light kissing. Recent reports on the Italian forum is worrying though, so the ratio is probably falling I fear.
Hey Pistons,
Your PM box is full.
Howie.
Not the best of Lineups today by any means. Of course it is still a good one with plenty of ladies to choose from but nothing compared to last year. Maybe the top lookers are off and will be back for FERRAGOSTO week 8-15 August. This is probably as strong a week as they can ever expect all year.
First room with one Evelyne from Romania. Previously Paradise 2 in Germany and some places in Switzerland as she claims.
Very nice rack. Perfect natural tits on the bigger side. Black hair and very light skin tone. She liked to be licked for sure. The rest I found mediocre. Half an hour, couldn't get myself to tip her because service has a lot of room to improve still.
Food very good as always.
[QUOTE=Howie;2209835]Hey Pistons,
Your PM box is full.
Howie.[/QUOTE]Should be fixed now.
I expect to visit Wellcum at the end of August, just for one day. I'm used to visiting FKK in Germany, so I don t know what to expect in a Austrian club. I will be there on Wednesday 22th August, so if there is any member of ISG in the club this, I will be pleased to have a tchat. If anybody have any recommendations about girls, don't hesitate to share information!
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Prizren;2211902]I expect to visit Wellcum at the end of August, just for one day. I'm used to visiting FKK in Germany, so I don t know what to expect in a Austrian club.[/QUOTE]Basically the same as in a German club. Just with showers in the rooms for improved hygiene.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2212079]Basically the same as in a German club. Just with showers in the rooms for improved hygiene.[/QUOTE]And a 95% Italian attendance and a higher half an hour price of 70 instead of 50. And OWO being legal.
[QUOTE=Prizren;2211902]I expect to visit Wellcum at the end of August, just for one day. I'm used to visiting FKK in Germany, so I don t know what to expect in a Austrian club. I will be there on Wednesday 22th August, so if there is any member of ISG in the club this, I will be pleased to have a tchat. If anybody have any recommendations about girls, don't hesitate to share information!
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Wellcum, Andiamo, are in Austria, Marina in Slovenia, but these clubs are for Italians who cross borders, with services for Italians, mostly just suck and fuck for 70 for 30 mn, at Marina mostly in about 10 mn, like Turkish and Asians in Germany. Italians seem happy about this, kissing girls are rare, many ask extra but not able for more than baby kisses.
I was at Wellcum on Friday and for Ferragosto party, not same show than 2 years ago. No more exceptional GFE Lena on last year, club told me, but I really missed her on this year, even when I arrived on Friday afternoon after 8 hours driving in traffic from Globe Zurich, a pretty little doll really did welcome me, she chose upstairs VIP room for our discovery, real GFE fire in bed, asking later if I wanted to repeat, so I promised her to repeat on next day. When she arrived at 1.30 pm, second noisy fire in bed with princess she looks when not saying every minute: what the fuck. On this Saturday, I took breakfast with Italian Tea with lots of charm, the most attractive for me at Wellcum on this year, but I knew I promised, so I went to Tea only after princess what the fuck, when Tea is really a woman type, but except for DATY with fingers to make her cum, she can t compete for level in bed with princess what the fuck. Only baby kiss for Tea, telling me when she saw my disappointment: but I'm not used to guys like You, Italians just want suck and fuck, and she is Italian. Tea was as disappointing as Italian, pretty Anna on August 2016 , pretty women, but can t compete in bed with many Romanians I know. To finish my boring party, only Sumo fights were funny, I tried model type Mirella, not Lena level, but not so bad, for 1 h30 working hard on her, for 210.
On Monday at Marina, after looking how girls work and explained to top sexy Mila I m not a Italian rabbit to fuck in 10 mn, I smelled a woman type, Sandi, for a great GFE 1 h30 room. When we came back, girls were looking and asked if I fell in love.
Back on this Tuesday, my big mistake to choose pretty but low level Amina, maybe 25 yo but really not a woman with so limited, kindergarden vagina. Then, after playing with Mila since Monday and I returned for her, because I wanted to know if as a Marina newbie I would be able to make change for me a top sexy girl used to fuck Italians in 10 mn, so she is used to make 70 in 10 mn. Many times since Monday, I told her I need a woman for sex, so is she this girl? Let s try on Tuesday evening, and I discovered a so sexy, fashion girl, sensitive to caress, for sex, for 1 h30 for only 210, I refused to give her extra asked for kissing, not before or in room, but when I paid, not a so good money client when she is used to make 70 in 10 mn, but I m sure if I asked her to repeat when she smiled or gave me a kiss later, she would agree for a second round, even for less money per minute, but more sweet caresses.
Marina entry is 60 from Monday to Wednesday. Wellcum and Adiamo are for 85.
70/30 mn with girls, extra asked for kissing for most who provide, many don t. A very few kiss as GFE service, for free.
Lower level on average and more expensive than Germany, only worth because close to Monte Zoncolan for me. Not same level on this year for Wellcum casting, nor without Globe level, charming Lena. Ro, but little doll, princess what the fuck was really enjoyable, sensitive and generous in bed, Sandi at Marina a real woman in bed, and Mila at Marina my so enjoyable victory to make change of behavior a girl for You, but hard work to get GFE from girls used to fuck Italian rabbits. Mirella at Wellcum also changed behavior in room on Saturday evening, but not on same level than Mila who was my most interesting girl for how she looked at me like a alien.
[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2212309]And a 95% Italian attendance and a higher half an hour price of 70 instead of 50. And OWO being legal.[/QUOTE]So I suppose that it s mean that all the girls practice OWO with no extra cost, like in FKK before July 2017. I hope so!
[QUOTE=Prizren;2212583]So I suppose that it s mean that all the girls practice OWO with no extra cost, like in FKK before July 2017. I hope so![/QUOTE]There is no such law in Austria and the girls don't want to get complaints at the reception, so. Yes.
[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2212713]There is no such law in Austria and the girls don't want to get complaints at the reception, so. Yes.[/QUOTE]Thanks for this information. I expect to visit this club next week, on Wednesday!
I am a Wellcum regular, probably twice monthly. Its true the big majority of clients are Italian; that's why the club (and Andiamo and Marina) exist south of the Alps. What Italian guys do in a room I don't know. But their money makes such clubs exist so I don't make comments.
In Wellcum is different to north alp Europe; there is no FKK rule; depending which day and what time some girls lingerie, swimwear, boobs out, pussy uncovered, naked. It depends. Some girls kiss, some deep kiss, also some not. Some top quality optic, some less.
Right now I go with two girls, one ex-Marina, one ex-Globe. They are maybe 7/8 optic but kiss and BBBJ deeper, softer, sweeter as any in Globe, Ffurt, NRW I know. I normally do about 90 min rooms; maybe this makes a difference, maybe the W girls know me, you make your own mind.
You go to Wellcum and choose carefully, you will have as good a time as any other Euro club. Also food, garden, pool and wellnes equal or better to any in north Alp.
You not agree? Say what is better.
Yes, Wellcum even now trees are too tall, makes more and more difficult to contemplate Carinthians mountains from the garden, and Marina in Slovenia and I even remember Andiamo in Villach. At I visited and enjoyed on August 2016 , are very beautiful clubs where You feel like on holidays.
No improvement for party, nor foods at Wellcum, I remembered better foods on last Summer, but real improvement for me is self service for apple juice, don t have to wait for long anymore at the bar.
Marina worth for discount entry 60 € from Monday to Wednesday, with about 50 girls.
Wellcum casting was not on same level for looks than on last August, the most attractive for me was Italian Tea because she has charm of a 28 yo real woman type, but except cumming on DATY / fingering, so disappointing for her skill, sensual when chatting, but not all for sex. She told me I was so different from Italians expectations = just fast suck and fuck for 70 for most of them, and they seem happy about that, when I had over 1 h with her for 140 when it worh not more than 50 , so disappointing. Mila who fuck Italians in 10 mn at Marina, confirmed their expectations, it became a game between us because I told her I m not a rabbit and was looking for a real woman. At the end of our 1 h30 room, when I told her: You are able to become a real woman to make love in bed and not only limited to fast fuckings, tears came in her eyes and she preferred to look at her knees, so I gave her a sweet kiss and she smiled. Lena was a wow girl at Wellcum on August 2017, maybe Mila could become? She said I misunderstood her on Monday evening when I arrived at Marina, but when I felt on Tuesday noon, my mind was still too hurt by violent pain I had in Zoncolan on Sunday and Monday, so I decided to return for her, to try to make my mind recovering from pain, when I couldn t at night. Even Wellcum little blond doll, princess what the fuck was so lovely and full GFE real fire in bed, even Sandi at Marina was high GFE level woman type, but for look, elegance and class, they are not wow girls I find at Globe and sometimes in Germany or even at YY NL. Wow girls are those who make You dream for their beauty and elegance, and think why they do this for me, for sure much higher level than just fast suck and fuck. My meaning was Wellcum and Marina can t compete for girls level in bed with Globe, or GT Bruggen. I don t know for GT Wien level.
For sure, Italians make these 3 clubs business, and I like Italians for how they welcome me as a king for my climbing, but I m just different for my way for sex, as I m also different from Germans and Swiss as say my girls. I want GF in bed and I know Globe superstars won t go to work in Germany for 50, or Austria for 70, when they are full busy for 130€/30 mn.
Sirioja: I talked with 14 girls yesterday at Wellcum about kissing. My limited survey gave me 6 girls asking for extra from kissing. And 8 girls including it in the base. 14 out of 14, or all the girls I asked said they would kiss with tongue. One of the kissers said specifically "with you I will kiss", so it could be YMMV.
Locals and Italians have done a great job at keeping upselling at Wellcum low. But one of the main thing the girls are requesting is more 'stupid' tourists. Non locals and non Italians. Because as they say, their money is way more loose, and they can upsell a lot more that they include for the locals and Italians.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2213384]Sirioja: I talked with 14 girls yesterday at Wellcum about kissing. My limited survey gave me 6 girls asking for extra from kissing. And 8 girls including it in the base. 14 out of 14, or all the girls I asked said they would kiss with tongue. One of the kissers said specifically "with you I will kiss", so it could be YMMV.[/QUOTE]I didn't even talk to 14 girls on my 2 days, because I didn't see more than 5 or 6 girls I would pay for.
Reddish hair Kelly. Ro doesn't kiss, Italian Tea doesn't really kiss, complicated with Mirella but she try, Maia silicon doesn't kiss, fortunately little doll what the fuck kiss a lot. They were the only attractive girls seen on Friday and for party.
At Marina, Sandi kiss a lot, Amina like a baby, and Mila really improved during our 1 h30 room.
I hate to have to ask about services provided, at Globe girls are woman in bed, same with most at GT Bruggen, also quite often with woman types at Sharks.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2213554]I didn't even talk to 14 girls on my 2 days, because I didn't see more than 5 or 6 girls I would pay for.
Reddish hair Kelly. Ro doesn't kiss, Italian Tea doesn't really kiss, complicated with Mirella but she try, Maia silicon doesn't kiss, fortunately little doll what the fuck kiss a lot. They were the only attractive girls seen on Friday and for party.
At Marina, Sandi kiss a lot, Amina like a baby, and Mila really improved during our 1 h30 room.
I hate to have to ask about services provided, at Globe girls are woman in bed, same with most at GT Bruggen, also quite often with woman types at Sharks.[/QUOTE]Well Kelly is far from being my type, so I didn't ask her. No idea who Tea is. I know Mira, but not Mirella. Maya (not Maia) is rumored to be average on italian forum, so I didn't ask. She does have a pretty face though.
Plenty of 7's and 8's at Wellcum, but I also feel the number of 9's have gone down a bit now. March lineup had more top optics. And upselling went up slightly on Friday compared to Thursday. They think they can get longer rooms on a busier day.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2213663]Well Kelly is far from being my type, so I didn't ask her. No idea who Tea is. I know Mira, but not Mirella. Maya (not Maia) is rumored to be average on italian forum, so I didn't ask. She does have a pretty face though.
Plenty of 7's and 8's at Wellcum, but I also feel the number of 9's have gone down a bit now. March lineup had more top optics. And upselling went up slightly on Friday compared to Thursday. They think they can get longer rooms on a busier day.[/QUOTE]Maybe GND offer more on a slow day like Thursday, but I don t pay for GND. Mirella is model type with black stockings sitting close to DJ. Fortunately, little doll was a generous kisser for our 2 rooms, but not as sensual as Lena, even a real fire in bed.
Because I didn't perform good enough in Zoncolan, but more killing my body and mind, so I m planning to repeat in September, but I will drive from Globe Zurich through Lienz, maybe will visit Marina if Mila still there, but no need to pit stop at Wellcum, even a beautiful club, but this Summer casting is not on my level compare to Globe.
I expect to visit this club in a few days. I don't know what is the best day to do it. Is it Sunday (not too many people because it's a day off), or maybe a Wednesday. If anybody can help me to choose (the day to visit not the girls).
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2213387]Locals and Italians have done a great job at keeping upselling at Wellcum low. But one of the main thing the girls are requesting is more 'stupid' tourists. Non locals and non Italians. Because as they say, their money is way more loose, and they can upsell a lot more that they include for the locals and Italians.[/QUOTE]When girls come to you at Wellcum or Andiamo or Marina, they don t speak in German in Austria, or Slovenian, but in Italian, and they are surprised when You answer You are not Italian. For them, how a French can get lost so far from home, when Italians just cross the border.
3 Italian clubs in foreign countries, working with Italian money. Forbidden in Italy, like in France.
Most of time, girls say Italians are nice for behavior, they don t say the same from Germans in Germany.
I can only agree with girls, for how Italians welcome me during my holidays, big thanks for their kindness and support.
But not all girls speak Italians. Most do. And for a few the monogamous Italian only clientelle is for some like some in here complain about Romanian only girls. I haven't hear of girls complaining about locals anywhere though, but Italians are nice. Even if some are terrible at English.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2214451]But not all girls speak Italians. Most do. And for a few the monogamous Italian only clientelle is for some like some in here complain about Romanian only girls. I haven't hear of girls complaining about locals anywhere though, but Italians are nice. Even if some are terrible at English.[/QUOTE]All girls were speaking to me in Italian first, then French because many worked in France, or English. I m pretty sure, girls don t speak in Italian in GT Wien?
At Wellcum or Andiamo, Austrians are nothing for business, like Slovenians at Marina, just have to look at the cars. Italian clubs, they are at home, speaking Italian.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2214541]All girls were speaking to me in Italian first, then French because many worked in France, or English. I m pretty sure, girls don t speak in Italian in GT Wien?
At Wellcum or Andiamo, Austrians are nothing for business, like Slovenians at Marina, just have to look at the cars. Italian clubs, they are at home, speaking Italian.[/QUOTE]I met some Croatians too at Wellcum. And some GT Vienna girls said they avoided Wellcum partly due to the language.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2213387]Locals and Italians have done a great job at keeping upselling at Wellcum low.[/QUOTE]I would bet that management is to blame for the fact that the girls are not aggressively upselling.
[QUOTE=MonSooner;2217150]I would bet that management is to blame for the fact that the girls are not aggressively upselling.[/QUOTE]Yupp, I believe you might be onto something.
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Guys,
I am looking for good options for a Ski (Downhill and some X Country) and FKK / Saunaclub combination for a ski break this winter. The best I can find so far is the Nassfeld / Wellcum area. Any suggestions please. (I intend self drive for convenience and equipment carrying).
Many thanks, the.
[QUOTE=Dubner32;2224106]I am looking for good options for a Ski (Downhill and some X Country) and FKK / Saunaclub combination for a ski break this winter.[/QUOTE]This coming winter I plan to stay in Villach at the Holiday Inn. Very reasonable rates for a quality hotel.
When the weather is nice for skiing, there is a free shuttle bus that comes around the town around 9am each morning for the 15 min trip to nearby Gerlitzen ski resort.
When the weather turns sour, it's a 23 min / 5 Euro train trip to Arnoldstein, then a 3. 5 km / 10 Euro taxi to Wellcum.
[QUOTE=Dubner32;2224106]Guys,
I am looking for good options for a Ski (Downhill and some X Country) and FKK / Saunaclub combination for a ski break this winter. The best I can find so far is the Nassfeld / Wellcum area. Any suggestions please. (I intend self drive for convenience and equipment carrying).
Many thanks, the.[/QUOTE]There are many ski resorts in Austria and around Villach. Which one is the best in the area is up for question however. It is cheaper across the Slovenian border too, so Kranjska Gora may be an option if you want to save some money. One of the girls suggested an Austrian ski resort to me, but I forgot to write it down. Google searches gives me a ski resort in the area at every second mountain pretty much. But you might want to drive 40 min away from Wellcum to get to the best one in the area from what I was told.
Guys,
Thanks.
I'm very happy to drive 40 minutes from Wellcum to get to 'the best one in the area'. Did you get a name? I suspect it may be Nassfeld / Passo Pramollo near Hermagor; the one I mentioned earlier. Hope your adviser had another suggestion. More the merrier.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2225952]One of the girls suggested an Austrian ski resort to me, but I forgot to write it down.[/QUOTE]The nearest skiground is Dreilndereck above Arnoldstein. It's visible from the Wellcum garden. Some girls know it.
Visited Andiamo today for a change. Club and pool / garden looking good in the sunshine. Food plus BBQ good. Nice to see proper FKK south of alps. About 30 girls in house. Great sessions with Soraya (ex-Wellcum) and Tina. Lighter kissing than I prefer otherwise top GFE service. Justina looked stunning. Heard several girls suggesting a general lack of clients. But I think this sort of comment is fairly common throughout FKKland.
[QUOTE=Itponaus;2226164]The nearest skiground is Dreilndereck above Arnoldstein. It's visible from the Wellcum garden. Some girls know it.[/QUOTE]Actually given the driving time frame she gave me, it could have been Nassfled. That place looks quite good. The Arnoldstein resort seems a bit small. But might be ok to check out for one day. And saves you time. Saw a youtube video from an action camera there. Didn't seem too bad. Lots of action camera videos on youtube from all the resorts in Austria. Big and small.
Dubner: I heard it was worse before Soraya moved there. Hopefully she will get enough work so that she decides to stay at least. I missed out on her unfortunately due to timing and her vacation last. Her kind is rare.
Back at Wellcum yesterday and was reminded why it is my first choice in the area. Wellness, garden, pool all one notch up from Andiamo. Food two notches up.
Good to see Julia going gloriously naked again and, unlike I remember, also about 30% of girls going naked by 11 PM.
At least 10 'new' girls. Club busy, short wait for rooms after 6 PM; many bears but not overcrowded, girls working hard. And succeeding. Many 'champagne' groups.
Had a pleasant chat with 4 younger Australian guys; 5 English native speakers at W at the same time may be a record!
Three 1 HR + sessions with:
Andrea. Ro (Sits to left of restaurant entrance, by door to garden) As reported before Andreea does the most wonderful BJ. She has a special way of stroking the guys inner thighs with her breasts while massaging balls with hands and giving deep, variable pressure, BJ. Guys who look for an optic stunner would not pick her first. But would be missing out big time. (My opinion; YMMV.).
Anabell. Ro (Sits at end of bar, near main entrance from locker room) Slim, curly back hair, usually (fake) glasses. I have been with Anabell before; this time she was outstanding. She was freer with everything she did including another superb sloppy BJ. Everything I had said I liked last time she had remembered and included into her style. Hardly speaks any English so we chat in my broken Italian but she intends to learn back at home during her next break. She knows where to come for 'coaching'!
Jessy. Ro. (Sits near Anabell at end of bar) Smiley tanned full hard body; curly dark brown hair. Great GFE session. I was getting a bit tired so enjoyed slow slow slow treatment with lots of touching / stroking. In doggy I tend to grip the girl's ass; Jessy's is noticeably firm. She says she doesn't workout but I have doubts.
All 3 are great deep kissers in room; NOT downstairs. Jessy says there is a club (girls' rule against full kissing downstairs (Can not confirm or deny, but, thinking about it, all 3 were only 'Euro' kissing on first greeting. All 3 are all on Veniamo It website if you wish to check optics; none of the pics do justice. (At another time, in another place, I persuaded a girl to let me photo her in room. Probably not a clever thing to do. But, frankly, my pics were far sexier (in a non-porn way) than the official web 'portraits'.).
Don't particularly enjoy W parties; today is Cuban Experience (Will go early and hide in room with these three. Magari!
Guys,
Thanks for ski comments. Yes, I think Nassfeld / Wellcum is the best and most practical Ski / Club combination in the Alps. Used it regularly last winter. Would welcome any counter proposals! I intend to ski (that is, cruise) the Lauberhorn Downhill course at Wengen (CH) and the Hannerkahm at Kitzbuhel (A) this winter. Any nearby club suggestions are most welcome.
I was at Andiamo two days ago and Wellcum yesterday. Interestingly, there was a high optic girl who was also at both. Is this mobility common? OK with management? I thought that, despite the girls being self-employed, this was frowned upon. I know Soraya has moved but switching 'base' one time presumably is OK. Full flexibility is different. Will be interesting to see if she is at W today. One Globe girl told me she went to try W, Globe management found out. And told her she was banned from returning.
About the girl you saw in 2 different clubs:
- Globe is infamous for having the strictest rules in the industry, so it doesn't need to be the norm.
- I have seen the same in some German clubs. Especially in NRW this seems to happen all the time.
- I would never rant on the girl (s) I see doing this. Best case, she would feel like she owe me, and act even nicer than before. Win / win.
Pistons, Agree completely. She stayed at Wellcum for the next (Cuban party) day. I spoke to her briefly "Didn't I see you. And you see me. At the other place." "I remember you." Exchange smiles, move on, no issue. Absolutely no benefit to mention to any managements. Perhaps next time I see her I will have a one-one chat to understand her thinking.
Didn't see much of Cuban party; was in room with 3 from before (individually; not foursome! Place crowded with bears but good atmosphere. Must have been some very tired girls next day.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2228506]About the girl you saw in 2 different clubs:
- Globe is infamous for having the strictest rules in the industry, so it doesn't need to be the norm.
- I have seen the same in some German clubs. Especially in NRW this seems to happen all the time.
- I would never rant on the girl (s) I see doing this. Best case, she would feel like she owe me, and act even nicer than before. Win / win.[/QUOTE]You should better know about Globe rather than believing girls who failed for business there. Girls who are able to get good business at Globe, stay at Globe, for years, just because it s the best money business. 4 hours in room are nearly 1000 € for a girl. I don t, but tip are not 10 € at Globe. Pretty German girls go now to work at Globe, they don t want to work for 50 in Germany.
Globe is high level for some looks and level in bed, Wellcum couldn't compete on this Summer.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2228687]You should better know about Globe rather than believing girls who failed for business there. Girls who are able to get good business at Globe, stay at Globe, for years, just because it s the best money business. 4 hours in room are nearly 1000 for a girl. I don t, but tip are not 10 at Globe. Pretty German girls go now to work at Globe, they don t want to work for 50 in Germany.
Globe is high level for some looks and level in bed, Wellcum couldn't compete on this Summer.[/QUOTE]It is pretty strange how not all girls work at Globe then if it is such a heaven for the girls. All making 1000 e or more from 4 standard hours long rooms. With hardly any downtime in between. And no strict rules set by the manager.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2230900]It is pretty strange how not all girls work at Globe then if it is such a heaven for the girls. All making 1000 e or more from 4 standard hours long rooms. With hardly any downtime in between. And no strict rules set by the manager.[/QUOTE]Yes, Globe have rules, some girls are even afraid of complaints on desk from some clients, but I know many girls who worked in Germany before, who have better business at Globe now, and don t plan to return to Germany.
Globe is the best level for looks and level in bed, even difficult for me to see girls I like, sucking or kissing or being fucked in public. Not the best place for GFE illusion, for me.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2231877]Globe is the best level for looks and level in bed, even difficult for me to see girls I like, sucking or kissing or being fucked in public. Not the best place for GFE illusion, for me.[/QUOTE]Well optics are in the eye of the beholder usually, and we usually seem to disagree on the top optics lately at clubs like Wellcum or sharks etc. Is it true most girls are too tall at Globe? As in 1.70+ like the girl from Aca / GT Bruggen? And some of us prefer the public sex. The sad reason public sex has disappeared from most places is that the girls among themselves usually lie to the other girls saying they do less in the room than they actually do. And they cannot hide it if they do it in public. So indeed it is a good thing if there is plenty of open public sex at globe without the girls worrying about other girls. The wide majority of the girls tell me public sex in cinema is OK, but they can do more in a private room. Maybe 80%.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2232045]Well optics are in the eye of the beholder usually, and we usually seem to disagree on the top optics lately at clubs like Wellcum or sharks etc. Is it true most girls are too tall at Globe? As in 1.70+ like the girl from Aca / GT Bruggen? And some of us prefer the public sex. The sad reason public sex has disappeared from most places is that the girls among themselves usually lie to the other girls saying they do less in the room than they actually do. And they cannot hide it if they do it in public. So indeed it is a good thing if there is plenty of open public sex at globe without the girls worrying about other girls. The wide majority of the girls tell me public sex in cinema is OK, but they can do more in a private room. Maybe 80%.[/QUOTE]Not many taller than 1,70 girls at Globe, most girls are Romanian, about 6/7 German girls. Wellcum was really below on last August. DFK, BBBJ are very standard at Globe. Some girls behave like GF for love in bed, I don t enjoy to see them on public exhibitions, then I don t desire to go again with them.
I asked her for licking balls and she reply I don't do it but it's a extra.
She got nervous as I ask here for a room with no extra it's seems that no extra room it's something she doesn't like.
At the dinner she look me bad, the little Romanian mafia fucker.
Late I understand she is a boss of a gang of five to six dick eaters.
So I take another Eva or ela, 22 ys she told, good shape in bikini.
For her licks balls but in the room she make a fake licks balls.
But her pussy is tight.
End news from Marina club.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2232155]Not many taller than 1,70 girls at Globe, most girls are Romanian, about 6/7 German girls. Wellcum was really below on last August. DFK, BBBJ are very standard at Globe. Some girls behave like GF for love in bed, I don t enjoy to see them on public exhibitions, then I don t desire to go again with them.[/QUOTE]Too bad it is swizz prices then. Wellcum can bounce back too. It was not all grim even if it did feel like a decline. I think you missed out on Elisa too for example, who got back the same day I got there. And for me she is a top 3 girl now (other mongers I know agree). The new (E) Manuela too who I went with and impressed me in the room seems to be a new hit on the Italian board too. I would have repeated, but there are so much happening at Wellcum and so many relations to work on, that one needs several days. The new girls Michelle (tried her) and Rosalia (didn't try) are also new well hyped girls with great attitude and at least an 8 if not 8+ for looks. Of course there are some upsellers and a few with high noses there too. One or two girls got knocked of my repeat list too without me mentioning names due to attitudinal problems. But Lorena is back. Maybe Natali will return also. And this new 19 year old girl Adalina is getting hyped a lot. Its too bad with some top girls leaving or getting kicked out for various reasons though, although the Soraya incident felt a bit silly. But in one or two cases with insane upselling it might be good for the club if they kick them out too, or it can turn out like Sharks. (Top girls from the past like Daria, Nia, Angie etc was still around too).
The bombshell it's that finally the wall of 100 euros for the shithole is broken.
Now it's available for 50.
But you have to discuss in the room not near the ears of roman mafia gang.
The situation it's that.
If you are a newbie price for ass 100 for CIM 50.
In the room 50 and 30.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2232715]Too bad it is swizz prices then. Wellcum can bounce back too. It was not all grim even if it did feel like a decline. I think you missed out on Elisa too for example, who got back the same day I got there. And for me she is a top 3 girl now (other mongers I know agree). The new (E) Manuela too who I went with and impressed me in the room seems to be a new hit on the Italian board too. I would have repeated, but there are so much happening at Wellcum and so many relations to work on, that one needs several days. The new girls Michelle (tried her) and Rosalia (didn't try) are also new well hyped girls with great attitude and at least an 8 if not 8+ for looks. Of course there are some upsellers and a few with high noses there too. One or two girls got knocked of my repeat list too without me mentioning names due to attitudinal problems. But Lorena is back. Maybe Natali will return also. And this new 19 year old girl Adalina is getting hyped a lot. Its too bad with some top girls leaving or getting kicked out for various reasons though, although the Soraya incident felt a bit silly. But in one or two cases with insane upselling it might be good for the club if they kick them out too, or it can turn out like Sharks. (Top girls from the past like Daria, Nia, Angie etc was still around too).[/QUOTE]When I returned for my record in Zoncolan on 28 September, I sent mail about Lena, but no more Lena, so even Miss what the fuck was really passionate in bed for our 2 rooms, but no visit.
Marina was not able to answer about Mila, so I slept in Zoncolan.
Wellcum for ferragosto casting was really below my nearly 15 visits at Globe since end of March, with some really high level girls for love in bed.
I was at FunPalast and a girl from Wellcum talked like no kissing is the general policy with girls at Wellcum.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2234333]I was at FunPalast and a girl from Wellcum talked like no kissing is the general policy with girls at Wellcum.[/QUOTE]Management at Wellcum has kicked out quite a few girls for various reasons this summer. I don't believe the no kissing policy you mention is more than a thing among a short few of the girls. If it gets known by management, it probably won't be accepted. I myself got kissing from the majority of girls this August, but maybe its YMMV.
If one is after kissing, you should probably avoid a few girls though. So better ask first I suppose. I added 2 girls to my no go list due to this reason. Problem was they still got some suckers to take them to the room. Maybe the suckers didn't know, but even on the Italian forum these two girls are known 'rockets'.
Agree, always ask first. YMMV but think you might be happy with Andreea, Jessy, Katerina, Lina, Anabel. Perhaps not so much with Julia.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2232715] But Lorena is back. Maybe Natali will return also.[/QUOTE]She's had a complete makeover since her break. Bleached dark blonde hair now and a sleeve of tattoos on one arm. More hardened look. Almost did not recognize her.
Was in Wellcum twice last month. No sign of Natali on both visits.
Early September, the line up was pretty good. Got to fuck Angie again before she left for her vacation and also Mirabella (new girl).
Second visit in late September, the line up not so great. Most of the hot lookers were on their summer break. Both Angie and Mirabella were away so ended up going with Julia. Tall, model physique. Nice attitude. Tempted to try Rosalia but she was busy all night. Next time maybe.
By the way, note that the girl schedule on the website has been stale for over a month. Not sure why it's not being updated.
May head out there again next month for their birthday party. New girl Adelina looks really hot. Hope Angie and Mirabella are back by then.
Howie.
The makeover with "raunchy Lorena" as we may call her now was prior to her leaving. At least the style with boots and the bleached blonde hair was something she had in the spring also. I kinda liked it. I love boots and leggings though, and she fit blonde hair well too. Not sure I remember the tattoo's though.
[QUOTE=Howie;2239003]By the way, note that the girl schedule on the website has been stale for over a month. Not sure why it's not being updated.
May head out there again next month for their birthday party. New girl Adelina looks really hot. Hope Angie and Mirabella are back by then.
Howie.[/QUOTE]Check out their facebook page for updates. It seems to be their new way of doing it now. A few updates on their instagram too, but mainly on facebook. They even posted a complete lineup there just a few days ago.
Visited Wellcum over the weekend after quite some time. The overall lineup was pretty good but not as great as I remember it being. I saw girls who are former Goldentime, Babylon and Maxim, such as Andra, so there were a few girls who I know have a Vienna background. The atmosphere in Wellcum was very nice, but as a Vienna regular I feel I can get better service here in Wien. I suppose the regulars get better service than strangers. So they are pretty even in that regard. Big difference is that a room is always 70 in Wellcum and not 100 like in Goldentime.
I also have to say that the atmosphere in Wellcum on a weekend is unbeatable. The DJ makes for great fun and the girls like to play along. They demand the music from the DJ to keep the heat going and thus making the whole place more alive. But I feel that this is easier done with an Italian crowd rather than an Austrian one. Reports of my girl encounters while in Wellcum will follow in my next post soon.
[QUOTE=Jonn89;2248628]Visited Wellcum over the weekend after quite some time. The overall lineup was pretty good but not as great as I remember it being. I saw girls who are former Goldentime, Babylon and Maxim, such as Andra, so there were a few girls who I know have a Vienna background. The atmosphere in Wellcum was very nice, but as a Vienna regular I feel I can get better service here in Wien. I suppose the regulars get better service than strangers. So they are pretty even in that regard. Big difference is that a room is always 70 in Wellcum and not 100 like in Goldentime.[/QUOTE]100 at Goldentime? When did that happen?
[QUOTE=Pistons;2249201]100 at Goldentime? When did that happen?[/QUOTE]Let's say: officially it is still 60 per half hour but only for 100 you will get good service. This is true for most ladies and definitely for tourists and first-time-visitors.
As promised here is the report of my sessions while in Wellcum. Adelina was first on my list. Very cute girl, long black hair, beautiful face, nice skin, long legs and gorgeous natural tits. 19 year old girl looking great from head to toe. She told me that she used to work in Andiamo as well. She was a bit distant at first and I didn't really see her approach any guys at all. I mostly saw her sitting in her spot that she shares with two blonde girls who are more active than her but not as pretty as Adelina. The two girls also seemed a bit annoying, but they were fine with me.
I enjoyed our time with Adelina although her personality is somewhat of an acquired taste. She can seem dull but a few minutes later she was giving me the impression that she is very smart and funny, she definitely has a good sense of humor. Her blowjob was good and she did it with endurance. No kissing from her. I also have to say that I didn't have a session at Wellcum where the girls would kiss at all apart from the ones that I already knew from Vienna. 70 euros is mostly good service but not great unless you convince the girl before the room that you need it to be special. FYI, I haven't done it this time as I usually don't.
There was also this beautiful black girl who I had a session with. I really can't remember her name but she was the only black girl that I saw on both of my subsequent visits. She told me that this is her first club that she's working in and the first experience in this job. Her service was just mediocre but we can blame that on her inexperience. She was very popular and active on the dance floor though. I also saw her going for many sessions with many different guys while I was there.
My first session on the second day was with Misha who I know from Goldentime Vienna from like 2 years ago. Her name at Wellcum might be different, not quite sure TBH. She is a good dancer on the pole, good talker, open, honest and nice. Also very good in the room, but she was always good as far as I remember. Your mileage may vary but I think generally she is recommended. She had many sessions while I was there as well.
Last session was with Aisha. Her spot was on the center seats on the way out to the pool. She has pretty and long dark hair, very nice tits and a great ass. In the room she was a bit disappointing as I thought her blowjob was not great, no kissing either. She also seemed a bit dull for sure or maybe it was just me.
Overall, my Wellcum visit was a good time but session wise it wasn't anything memorable. Adelina made my day as far as new talent goes. I really liked her and probably will repeat whenever I visit Wellcum again.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2249201]100 at Goldentime? When did that happen?[/QUOTE]This whole year hardly any girls will do good service for 60 anymore in Goldentime Vienna. And the management got their back on this. There are still a few girls left who do good service for 60 but they are the minority. 100 has become the new norm and the reports on all forums back this up. Even though I still feel like regulars and locals can get better service in Vienna, at least the price is always 70 in Wellcum.
[QUOTE=Jonn89;2249575] Adelina made my day as far as new talent goes. I really liked her and probably will repeat whenever I visit Wellcum again.[/QUOTE]Not so sure that you will get the opportunity. I heard she (including a few other girls at the same time) was let go a week ago which must have been just days after your visit. Unconfirmed rumour but that is what I heard.
[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2250972]Not so sure that you will get the opportunity. I heard she (including a few other girls at the same time) was let go a week ago which must have been just days after your visit. Unconfirmed rumour but that is what I heard.[/QUOTE]Perhaps she went back to Andiamo then? Such as Soraya did. If so, then Andiamo could soon get a better lineup than Wellcum if Wellcum keeps kicking out girls and Andiamo picks them up. Another top looking girl at Wellcum was also kicked out this summer (pics were posted on the Italian forum), although she apparently upsold like mad. With Soraya it was something else, which I found out later what was. And still think is a stupid reason and maybe even laziness from management.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2251724]Perhaps she went back to Andiamo then? [/QUOTE]Maybe somebody can report if she is in Andiamo now. As described I am definitely interested.
[QUOTE=MonSooner;2252401]Maybe somebody can report if she is in Andiamo now. As described I am definitely interested.[/QUOTE]She was at Wellcum last Saturday during their 5 year birthday anniversary. Not sure what started the rumor about her leaving Wellcum.
In person, very pretty, timid, slim and tallish girl. More girl next door than "holy shit, I need to fuck her" type of girl. I needed someone more hardcore so passed on her. Instead went with "Spanish" girl Lavinia. Now she loves being fucked stupid. Brunette with nice silicons, protruding butt to die for and gorgeous pussy lips. Amazing standing doggy at the edge of the bed where she would back into me with gusto.
No Angie, Natali or Mirabella for those interested though the usual suspects were there; Lorena, Nia, Olga, Julia, Miriam, Daria, Rosalia, Lucia. Fairly impressive line up on display. Birthday party was ok, nothing spectacular. Quite busy during the evening into the early hours of the morning. Queuing time of 15 mins or so. A few stage shows of Lesbo and dildo action.
Surprise of the evening for me was bumping into an ex-favorite of mine from Globe. Still looking hot as ever but cock blocked for the whole day and evening. I. e. Some Italian dude paid for her company all day and hence off limits.
Howie.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2251724]Another top looking girl at Wellcum was also kicked out this summer (pics were posted on the Italian forum), although she apparently upsold like mad.[/QUOTE]Hey Piston,
Which girl was this? Hope it wasn't Angie. Daria told me Angie might not be coming back.
Can't recall but did you ever go back to Andiamo to see Soraya during the summer?
If anyone has info on Angie's status, I would greatly appreciate an update.
Howie.
[QUOTE=Howie;2252675]Hey Piston,
Which girl was this? Hope it wasn't Angie. Daria told me Angie might not be coming back.
Can't recall but did you ever go back to Andiamo to see Soraya during the summer?
If anyone has info on Angie's status, I would greatly appreciate an update.
Howie.[/QUOTE]Her name was Selena from Bulgaria. Pics posted here as wellcum has taken down her pictures I believe. She was just around for two months maybe.
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I had planned on checking out Andiamo to see Soraya, but she was on vacation when I was there unfortunately, so I skipped it. Did go with Angie though, but I don't have her contact info, so no idea of her current plans.
[QUOTE=Howie;2252673] Not sure what started the rumor about her leaving Wellcum.
[/QUOTE]That was me and I got it the information from another girl. Maybe a misunderstanding of sorts. Good to hear she is still there.
[QUOTE=Howie;2252673]
No Angie, Natali or Mirabella for those interested though the usual suspects were there; Lorena, Nia, Olga, Julia, Miriam, Daria, Rosalia, Lucia. Fairly impressive line up on display. Birthday party was ok, nothing spectacular. Quite busy during the evening into the early hours of the morning. Queuing time of 15 mins or so. A few stage shows of Lesbo and dildo action.
Surprise of the evening for me was bumping into an ex-favorite of mine from Globe. Still looking hot as ever but cock blocked for the whole day and evening. I. e. Some Italian dude paid for her company all day and hence off limits.
Howie.[/QUOTE]I see the new attendance system on the website is up and running. And it even shows the girls height, hair color, weight etc. Olga is missing for example even if she is around. Same thing a few months ago, making me wonder if she has a different name. Another thing I noticed is Lorena's height is quite a bit off. So I am guessing we could take this new information with a grain of salt on several other girls too. But at least it should show who is present. Tons of new names I have no idea who is though. Probably half the lineup now is names I haven't met or seen before I think. And most of these seems to be new girls in the club just the past 3 months.
After some poking around on the ita forum: Olga = Eva.
Pictures makes somewhat sense although she had ponytail a few months ago. And maybe 1.67-1.68 and not 1. 70 as it says.
But then another poster disagreed its the same girl. (where is my edit function?).
Hi Mongers, Ten days ago I met Elma and Aisha but I would like To Meet also Adelina, Rosalia and Katarina. Elma is service oriented and polite, small breast but good oral tecnique, great owo. Aisha is wonderful, beautyful tits and ass, good owo with SPIT but she is clockwatcher and not GFE. Bye and G. H.
Hi guys,
Off to Wellcum for the first time soon. Can anyone give advice on the best GFE girls for longer rooms and DFK? Optics not nearly as important as warm, sweet nature.
Thanks.
BP, Suggest you sample Andreea (fairly short, long black hair, sits at far end of couch to left of restaurant entrance door). Talk to her completely clearly about what you like, she will respond with equal honesty. And please tell her UK friend says Hello.
[QUOTE=BenPincus;2273458]Hi guys,
Off to Wellcum for the first time soon. Can anyone give advice on the best GFE girls for longer rooms and DFK? Optics not nearly as important as warm, sweet nature.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Half the lineup.
I want to do a Austria FKK trip soon (it's the only major FKK country I haven't mongered in yet!) and Wellcum is high on my list but since I'll be using public transport as much as possible I'd like to know where do you guys stay overnight when you go to Wellcum? I want to try the following clubs: Wellcum, Babylon (either Wien or Klagenfurt) and Goldentime and possibly Maxim.
[QUOTE=Sybarite2006;2279081]I want to do a Austria FKK trip soon (it's the only major FKK country I haven't mongered in yet!) and Wellcum is high on my list but since I'll be using public transport as much as possible I'd like to know where do you guys stay overnight when you go to Wellcum? I want to try the following clubs: Wellcum, Babylon (either Wien or Klagenfurt) and Goldentime and possibly Maxim.[/QUOTE]I have either slept in the car and been on the road between clubs so to speak, or taken in at hotel at Wellcum. They have rooms for visitors. Just got to book way in advance sometimes.
Don't know about the Babylon's or Maxim. I hear its expensive, but maybe you want to splurge. And I guess you don't know before you try. But if money matters, then why not get a rental car and try Marina in Slovenia and maybe also do Andiamo in Villach? Then its 4 FKK's (GT Vienna and wellcum included).
Without your own car, the connected Hotel is probably best; especially if you intend to visit for 2+ days. You will have used a taxi to get to the club; about 2.5 km from the local small town, Arnoldstein. In Arnoldstein, Gasthaus Wallner is a good choice.
However, frankly, with your trip outline, I'd suggest a hire car with GPS.
Apologies. Didn't read Pist's post in full. Agree completely. Andiamo and Marina well worth trying. (Andiamo is FKK, others not.) If using hire car (recommended) ensure it is cleared for Italy and Slovenia. Usually should be but be sure to check.
[QUOTE=Sybarite2006;2279081]I want to do a Austria FKK trip soon (it's the only major FKK country I haven't mongered in yet!) and Wellcum is high on my list but since I'll be using public transport as much as possible I'd like to know where do you guys stay overnight when you go to Wellcum? I want to try the following clubs: Wellcum, Babylon (either Wien or Klagenfurt) and Goldentime and possibly Maxim.[/QUOTE]You can try to book a room directly in Wellcum (in my case it was fully booked) or stay in Arnoldstein. I stayed in Hotel Wallner, nice place, can recommend. 5 minute drive from Wellcum, 10 EUR taxi.
[QUOTE=Dubner32;2279843]Apologies. Didn't read Pist's post in full. Agree completely. Andiamo and Marina well worth trying. (Andiamo is FKK, others not.) If using hire car (recommended) ensure it is cleared for Italy and Slovenia. Usually should be but be sure to check.[/QUOTE]It is possible to skip Italy between Wellcum and marina. It takes 30 min longer to drive and the speed limit is lower, but the distance is shorter I think, so you both save the Italian autostrada toll and use less fuel per km. And the route is quite scenic.
Correction, you almost fet to skip Italy. But the distance is 118 km instead of 170 km. I didn't refister me for Italian highway driving at least. Do you even need that? I know Austria requires, but in Italy you pay per km you drive on the highways, so I assumed there was no need to pay double. No idea about Slovenia.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2279570]I have either slept in the car and been on the road between clubs so to speak, or taken in at hotel at Wellcum. They have rooms for visitors. Just got to book way in advance sometimes.
Don't know about the Babylon's or Maxim. I hear its expensive, but maybe you want to splurge. And I guess you don't know before you try. But if money matters, then why not get a rental car and try Marina in Slovenia and maybe also do Andiamo in Villach? Then its 4 FKK's (GT Vienna and wellcum included).[/QUOTE]Marina is closed after police raid last week.
[QUOTE=Itponaus;2280328]Marina is closed after police raid last week.[/QUOTE]Any more info on this? Have the girls moved up to Austria to make money there instead then perhaps? I guess Wellcum / Andiamo should get a boost in visitors now at least then.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2280377]Any more info on this? Have the girls moved up to Austria to make money there instead then perhaps? I guess Wellcum / Andiamo should get a boost in visitors now at least then.[/QUOTE]I don't know details. Marina girls have probably more oportunities for work somewhere else than their clients.
[QUOTE=Itponaus;2280328]Marina is closed after police raid last week.[/QUOTE]Why police raid? Marina was higher level for me than Wellcum on last August. Had a super GFE Swiss claimed brunette and really enjoyed how top sexy Mila became a woman during our 1 h30 room. I liked tears in her eyes when I told her: You are able to be a woman.
Marina is a very beautiful club, we feel on holidays there. Found a Sharks girl there, who returned to Sharks on September, funny to meet her in both. You go everywhere she said.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2280671]Why police raid? [/QUOTE]Police discovered that Marina is not only wellness club, but girls there offer sexual services also.
[QUOTE=Itponaus;2280862]Police discovered that Marina is not only wellness club, but girls there offer sexual services also.[/QUOTE]Fuck sake, they do? Why didn't anybody tell me when I was there?
[QUOTE=Itponaus;2280862]Police discovered that Marina is not only wellness club, but girls there offer sexual services also.[/QUOTE]So, is Marina finished? Very good quality on discount days with entry 60. Can pay entry with credit card with no charge, like at Wellcum.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2281480]So, is Marina finished? Very good quality on discount days with entry 60. Can pay entry with credit card with no charge, like at Wellcum.[/QUOTE]Guys on Italian forum are discussing it heavily. Apparently the owners of Marina and the land around seems to be involved in some tax haven stuff. So they probably skipped paying the taxes that they should have. The idea is that the club may reopen at one time sooner or later. But possibly after the club has been auctioned off to new owners.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2281780]Guys on Italian forum are discussing it heavily. Apparently the owners of Marina and the land around seems to be involved in some tax haven stuff. So they probably skipped paying the taxes that they should have. The idea is that the club may reopen at one time sooner or later. But possibly after the club has been auctioned off to new owners.[/QUOTE]Really wish Marina will survive, I liked this beautiful club and had 2 really good girls, higher level than at Wellcum. Wish for my next Zoncolan on Summer, good recovery.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2281921]Really wish Marina will survive, I liked this beautiful club and had 2 really good girls, higher level than at Wellcum. Wish for my next Zoncolan on Summer, good recovery.[/QUOTE]I doubt about it, because business model of such clubs is evidently not compatible with Slovenian laws. As I understood media reports, girls, who worked in Marina were forced to offer sex services, had to pay entry fee and respect some rules (about prices of their services, .), as in similar clubs in Austria, Germany or Switzerland, but with different interpretation.
[QUOTE=Itponaus;2282340]I doubt about it, because business model of such clubs is evidently not compatible with Slovenian laws. As I understood media reports, girls, who worked in Marina were forced to offer sex services, had to pay entry fee and respect some rules (about prices of their services, .), as in similar clubs in Austria, Germany or Switzerland, but with different interpretation.[/QUOTE]Sounds like it has become an Interpol case. This is a mirror of the Artemis situation. But with the added difference in laws. More like a case of nitpicking, than ethically good police nice guy helping the unfortunate. Hard to point at the future then considering the laws in Slovenia, but it does sound bad indeed.
I will stick to my views that laws like this have ulterior motifs.
[QUOTE=Itponaus;2282340]I doubt about it, because business model of such clubs is evidently not compatible with Slovenian laws. As I understood media reports, girls, who worked in Marina were forced to offer sex services, had to pay entry fee and respect some rules (about prices of their services, .), as in similar clubs in Austria, Germany or Switzerland, but with different interpretation.[/QUOTE]This is FKK land, in NL, Germany, Austria, Switzerland, where WGs are not so independent workers. Marina business was not so new? How Slovenian administration could not know about such business?
Good, beautiful club for my experience.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2282506]This is FKK land, in NL, Germany, Austria, Switzerland, where WGs are not so independent workers. Marina business was not so new? How Slovenian administration could not know about such business?
Good, beautiful club for my experience.[/QUOTE]My guess: Slovenians have known for a long time. But since it seems to be an Interpol case now, it might not be up to the Slovenians. But the femi-nazis.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2282588]My guess: Slovenians have known for a long time. But since it seems to be an Interpol case now, it might not be up to the Slovenians. But the femi-nazis.[/QUOTE]I guess it is quite simple, the law dictates that prostitution in a club in Slovenia is not allowed. It had to happen sooner or later. It lasted so much longer than I expected.
[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2282787]I guess it is quite simple, the law dictates that prostitution in a club in Slovenia is not allowed. It had to happen sooner or later. It lasted so much longer than I expected.[/QUOTE]Sad for Marina, but not the only brothel I saw in Slovenia, I saw a small one quite close. Maybe top sexy Mila. Ro becoming a woman in bed for me, will move to Wellcum which seem to be number 1 around and in Austria, thanks to Italians who make Wellcum, Andiamo and Marina before, business.
[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2282787]I guess it is quite simple, the law dictates that prostitution in a club in Slovenia is not allowed. It had to happen sooner or later. It lasted so much longer than I expected.[/QUOTE]You are right. I was surprised, that Marina was even opened. But back to this thread (Austria, Other Areas) and about Wellcum. Local community of Hohenthurn approved this club as it is. They would not did it against laws.
[QUOTE=Itponaus;2282963]You are right. I was surprised, that Marina was even opened. But back to this thread (Austria, Other Areas) and about Wellcum. Local community of Hohenthurn approved this club as it is. They would not did it against laws.[/QUOTE]It's quite hard to deny a club the license if they are doing everything by the book, particularly if they own the land on which they build. I don't know if that is the case but it's likely.
Hello guys!
Business takes me to Venice end of March and I will be driving up to Austria for the day. A little downtime for myself.
Are the prices 70 euros for 30 min? Is OWO included or it's considered an extra? I don't care about kissing but OWO a must!
Thank in advance.
[QUOTE=ALaCreme;2283825]Hello guys!
Business takes me to Venice end of March and I will be driving up to Austria for the day. A little downtime for myself.
Are the prices 70 euros for 30 min? Is OWO included or it's considered an extra? I don't care about kissing but OWO a must!
Thank in advance.[/QUOTE]The price is 70 for 30 minutes and OWO is usually included and you shouldn't be asked to pay anything for that. Entry fee is 85.
I like the atmosphere at Andiamo better but Wellcum overall is far superior.
Reporting live from Wellcum. Last minute decision to head out here from Vienna from this morning. Just had an 'out of this world' experience with blond WTF girl. Sporting newly enhanced silicon B's and still looking ravishing as ever. Won't go into too much details as the session was pretty intense and intimate but if you're willing to splurge, you will be guaranteed a good time.
Line up is pretty strong today. Quite a few new faces. At the moment too lazy to do any scouting as I'm coming down from a sexual high.
I'll be back in Vienna tomorrow but no urge to visit Goldentime. Recent field reports from there have been pretty depressing. Might give Fun Palast another try instead. Not been back there in over three years.
Howie.
[QUOTE=Howie;2288168]Reporting live from Wellcum. Last minute decision to head out here from Vienna from this morning. Just had an 'out of this world' experience with blond WTF girl. Sporting newly enhanced silicon B's and still looking ravishing as ever. Won't go into too much details as the session was pretty intense and intimate but if you're willing to splurge, you will be guaranteed a good time.
Line up is pretty strong today. Quite a few new faces. At the moment too lazy to do any scouting as I'm coming down from a sexual high.
I'll be back in Vienna tomorrow but no urge to visit Goldentime. Recent field reports from there have been pretty depressing. Might give Fun Palast another try instead. Not been back there in over three years.
Howie.[/QUOTE]If you go to Funpalast, can you let me know if you have seen this trio there Claudia / Ina / Mary? They are sitting together on left side where the poker table is located, just before you reach showers.
[QUOTE=Howie;2288168]Reporting live from Wellcum. Last minute decision to head out here from Vienna from this morning. Just had an 'out of this world' experience with blond WTF girl. Sporting newly enhanced silicon B's and still looking ravishing as ever. Won't go into too much details as the session was pretty intense and intimate but if you're willing to splurge, you will be guaranteed a good time.
Line up is pretty strong today. Quite a few new faces. At the moment too lazy to do any scouting as I'm coming down from a sexual high.
Howie.[/QUOTE]Little fire in bed, miss what the fuck, is now silicon? When her body was firm everywhere. Not my words, but on this time, I would say: what the fuck. I hate silicon.
[QUOTE=Howie;2288168]Reporting live from Wellcum. Last minute decision to head out here from Vienna from this morning. Just had an 'out of this world' experience with blond WTF girl. Sporting newly enhanced silicon B's and still looking ravishing as ever. Won't go into too much details as the session was pretty intense and intimate but if you're willing to splurge, you will be guaranteed a good time.
Line up is pretty strong today. Quite a few new faces. At the moment too lazy to do any scouting as I'm coming down from a sexual high.[/QUOTE]I've noticed lineup numbers at Wellcum has gone up a little since Marina closed. Is it busier than normal now with the reduced competition?
And considering your history of posts, has Angie been to the enhancement clinique? I am guessing her sudden return made you make the rash decision to go there? LOL.
Howie: I did find one Elsa Jean video where she does look quite a bit like Angie by the way.
If you google 'Elsa Jean Ballerina' and look at pictures, that's the video. Otherwise Angie is more slim than Elsa Jean normally is, and butt is even more upturned on Angie than on Elsa.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2288303]Little fire in bed, miss what the fuck, is now silicon? When her body was firm everywhere. Not my words, but on this time, I would say: what the fuck. I hate silicon.[/QUOTE]They actually look good on her. Very well done, you'll hardly notice that they were enhanced. She also had some lip work done. Fuller lips and better for kissing with. She still has that wicked twinkle in her eyes when she gazes upon you when you fuck her hardcore.
So when is your next Wellcum visit?
Howie.
[QUOTE=Darster;2288186]If you go to Funpalast, can you let me know if you have seen this trio there Claudia / Ina / Mary? They are sitting together on left side where the poker table is located, just before you reach showers.[/QUOTE]Sorry buddy. Didn't make it to Fun Palast last night. Too tired after a run of club and laufhaus visits over the past four days (Sharks, Oase, Ici Paris and Wellcum). Leaving Vienna tomorrow for business in Asia for a month. Will probably give it a try on my return at the end of March.
Howie.
[QUOTE=Howie;2288739]They actually look good on her. Very well done, you'll hardly notice that they were enhanced. She also had some lip work done. Fuller lips and better for kissing with. She still has that wicked twinkle in her eyes when she gazes upon you when you fuck her hardcore.
So when is your next Wellcum visit?
Howie.[/QUOTE]Be's are always fine. Never had a problem with be's myself. But C+ N above is usually a problem.
[QUOTE=Howie;2288739]They actually look good on her. Very well done, you'll hardly notice that they were enhanced. She also had some lip work done. Fuller lips and better for kissing with. She still has that wicked twinkle in her eyes when she gazes upon you when you fuck her hardcore.
So when is your next Wellcum visit?
Howie.[/QUOTE]Not good new look for me. Wellcum is a beautiful club, but except Lena on August 2017, casting don't worth the trip for me, I preferred Mila at Marina on last August, Globe is far higher level for me, but for sure I will return to Zoncolan and carabinieri informed me, controlling me when I went down, about a road, not far, with 28% climbing, irresistible to try, even I don't know what will be such a wall to bicycle climb.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2288946]Not good new look for me. Wellcum is a beautiful club, but except Lena on August 2017, casting don't worth the trip for me, I preferred Mila at Marina on last August, Globe is far higher level for me, but for sure I will return to Zoncolan and carabinieri informed me, controlling me when I went down, about a road, not far, with 28% climbing, irresistible to try, even I don't know what will be such a wall to bicycle climb.[/QUOTE]Well, they do seem to switch out half the lineup every 6 months or so. With maybe in average 10 new girls every months trying out the club. So hard to define it I suspect unless you visit on a monthly basis. And then there is Andiamo too next door.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2289262]Well, they do seem to switch out half the lineup every 6 months or so. With maybe in average 10 new girls every months trying out the club. So hard to define it I suspect unless you visit on a monthly basis. And then there is Andiamo too next door.[/QUOTE]On 2016/2017/2018 Summers, only Lena for wow girl, when I made Mila at Marina becoming to be wow for me, little Miss what the fuck is fire in bed, but lack of chic. Globe is far higher level and closer for me.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2289429]On 2016/2017/2018 Summers, only Lena for wow girl, when I made Mila at Marina becoming to be wow for me, little Miss what the fuck is fire in bed, but lack of chic. Globe is far higher level and closer for me.[/QUOTE]You went with Natalie. How can you define a category as 'fire in bed' without including her? Too bad we don't know where she is currently at though. I hope she didn't leave Wellcum since we mentioned her here. Anyway, we all have more or less limited sessions at Wellcum on this forum. Italian forum is better for intel. With their 'rocket' slang for bad girls etc. LOL.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2289866]You went with Natalie. How can you define a category as 'fire in bed' without including her? Too bad we don't know where she is currently at though. I hope she didn't leave Wellcum since we mentioned her here. Anyway, we all have more or less limited sessions at Wellcum on this forum. Italian forum is better for intel. With their 'rocket' slang for bad girls etc. LOL.[/QUOTE]I prefer sensuality than fire in bed, just technique and sex is not so interesting for me, I prefer to touch the woman part, then sex seem more real, much more enjoyable. I don't repeat just for sex, my regular girls are because I touch their intimate woman part and they trust me, maybe why some are really angry when I stop. Lena was, with 6 hours in room from Thursday evening to Sunday for breakfast before going to climb Zoncolan. I sent her photo because she didn't understand why on Friday and Saturday I told her I couldn't have sex before leaving to magic. Zoncolan is my only reason to drive there, even Italians who know me in Stelvio think I m crazy to drive nearly for 5 hours and pushing on some parts to grip limit, through Dolomiti, for 10 kms in hell, but like my free ride spots, I always think about, to break my record, as long I will be able, adrenaline drug in your blood, so when I can breathe and walk after such intense effort, I'm very hard for sex, I mean for my tool.
Wellcum website are now advertising 'totally naked' every Thursday.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2288577]I've noticed lineup numbers at Wellcum has gone up a little since Marina closed. Is it busier than normal now with the reduced competition?
And considering your history of posts, has Angie been to the enhancement clinique? I am guessing her sudden return made you make the rash decision to go there? LOL.[/QUOTE]Yeah. Busted. I went there just to see her.
More girls than usual, however conversely the number of men on the Saturday night I was there was down. About 80% of usual numbers. No idea why.
Also noticed that a lot of the top performers left early at around 11.30pm.
When will you be there next?
Howie.
[QUOTE=Howie;2290894]Yeah. Busted. I went there just to see her.
More girls than usual, however conversely the number of men on the Saturday night I was there was down. About 80% of usual numbers. No idea why.
Also noticed that a lot of the top performers left early at around 11.30pm.
When will you be there next?
Howie.[/QUOTE]Trying to arrange something with one or two others. But responses are slow paced. Haha.
FKK Atlantis.
50 E entry, 50 E for 30 minutes. CIM, anal 50 E extra, VIP room. About 20 girls most of whom were 7-8's, no harassment as the girls aren't allowed to approach customers.
Had 2 girls Diana (Romanian) good body, nice tits and good service in room, thin blond girl (also Romanian) who did BBBJ incl in the 50 E. Would definitely go again.
La Villa.
100 E entry, Free bar including alcohol. Looks nice from outside and first impressions inside. Girls are a massive disappointment, 8-10 girls all chain smoking all aged 35-45 and the best of them was maybe a 5/10. That poor that despite being drunk I wasn't tempted. 2 of my friends did and said virtually anything was available for 50 E incl BBBJ, CIM, anal. We were there for 2 hours on a Saturday night and there was 1 other man there. Avoid.
R, Thanks for info on Kufstein.
Will be in Kitzbeuhl several days next month; anybody have any suggestions / recommendations closer than driving to Kufsten / Atlantis after skiing?
Thanks in anticipation, D.
[QUOTE=Dubner32;2292275]R, Thanks for info on Kufstein.
Will be in Kitzbeuhl several days next month; anybody have any suggestions / recommendations closer than driving to Kufsten / Atlantis after skiing?
Thanks in anticipation, D.[/QUOTE]1 HR drive to circolo passion in Innsbruck.
[QUOTE=Dubner32;2292275]R, Thanks for info on Kufstein.
Will be in Kitzbeuhl several days next month; anybody have any suggestions / recommendations closer than driving to Kufsten / Atlantis after skiing?
Thanks in anticipation, D.[/QUOTE]The Hannenkhan in Kitzbühel, but no curves to cut speed, straight down.
S,
Straight down the H'kamm! Maybe 30 years ago! Better you than me! Too much risk of colliding with a tourist looking at the view.
But I have a game on with friends who I will meet near Chamonix later. They know my skiing; I am going to 'comfortable cruise' the HK Streif and they have to guess my time; furthest wrong buys dinner for all! Win. Win for me!
Back on topic I intend to sample good old Wellcum, Arnoldstein; Atlantis, Kufstein and Circolo Passion, Innsbruck on the trip. First time at Atlantis and CP. Should be 'interesting'! Will report.
[QUOTE=Dubner32;2294103]S,
Straight down the H'kamm! Maybe 30 years ago! Better you than me! Too much risk of colliding with a tourist looking at the view.
But I have a game on with friends who I will meet near Chamonix later. They know my skiing; I am going to 'comfortable cruise' the HK Streif and they have to guess my time; furthest wrong buys dinner for all! Win. Win for me!
Back on topic I intend to sample good old Wellcum, Arnoldstein; Atlantis, Kufstein and Circolo Passion, Innsbruck on the trip. First time at Atlantis and CP. Should be 'interesting'! Will report.[/QUOTE]Close to Cham, go to Argentière Grands Montets, very famous for great ski along glacier. In Cham, LE Brévent.
Looking for some info. Ill be in Italy soon and planning on hopping the border and visiting Wellcum. On their site it says 3 some are available but after lurking through 10 pages of this forum I haven't seen any reports of anyone who has done it. Are all the girls down with 3 some or only a few specific ones? And how expensive would that be? I've read that a normal 30 minutes is 70 so would I just double that to 140 cause there are 2 girls or would it be more cause it would also be considered an extra service. Also this may be my only chance to visit Wellcum so I'm hoping for a full on 3 some experience. I want kissing, both me with both girls and the girls to kiss each other, both of them providing BBJ at the same time and be able to switch freely between the girls during the session. Due to the extravagance of my fantasy I'm willing to lower my optics but don't want to throw them out of the window completely. Does anyone know of any girls that provide this service? Should I just go there and start asking around? Should I expect to pay a small fortune for this kind of service? I know its a lot of questions, any info on this topic would be very helpful.
My advice based on many visits over years; other guys opinions may vary.
Choose your No 1 girl. Tell her exactly what you want. If she says yes ask her to pick No 2 girl. Should be normal price 2 × 70/30. But, if you want any kind of lesbo action eg girls kiss each other, this may be negotiable extra.
Recommend Andreea, Jessy, Lina and Anabel (if meet your optics). I have found these girls to be honest and good service providers who will treat you fair.
If you ask and they choose to say No please respect their decision.
Called in after skiing; first visit in about 3 months. None of my favs visible but was snared by Angelina (long ash blond hair, short, very slim, silicons. Almost an Angie lookalike). Impressed by her skill, energy and willingness to go anywhere. Certainly beyond my pleasure zone. A bit of upsell but, once she realised it would not be a short room, settled into top service. Would definitely repeat.
Later sessioned with fav Andreea. Her BJ skills remain outstanding.
[QUOTE=Dubner32;2297491]Called in after skiing; first visit in about 3 months. None of my favs visible but was snared by Angelina (long ash blond hair, short, very slim, silicons. Almost an Angie lookalike). Impressed by her skill, energy and willingness to go anywhere. Certainly beyond my pleasure zone. A bit of upsell but, once she realised it would not be a short room, settled into top service. Would definitely repeat.
Later sessioned with fav Andreea. Her BJ skills remain outstanding.[/QUOTE]Can't find an Angelina on Veniamo. Sure that was the correct spelling? There is a now for example a famous Adelina however with lots of fans, but I thought she had black hair.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2297666] There is a now for example a famous Adelina however with lots of fans, but I thought she had black hair.[/QUOTE]She does have black hair. Is she is actually already famous? She surely is gorgeous, I can attest to that!
[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2298287]She does have black hair. Is she is actually already famous? She surely is gorgeous, I can attest to that![/QUOTE]At least it seems so from reading the italian forum. And according to several users on the wellcum telegram group. Which currently has over 1500 users now. Adelina, Olivia, Evelin etc are among the girls most hyped there now. But I suppose it is like here on ISG. Some users are louder than others.
By the way, is it Adelina or Evelin standing on the right with the stick and wearing a hat on the September calendar picture now?
My Big Mistake! New Angelina at W is Angie! Sure, remodelled with new boobs, lips and hairstyle and slimmer but Angie! My excuse is I had never sessioned with her before. Even so, dumb eh!
In room she is absolutely top. Open to any suggestion, active or passive, great kisser and really uses her petite body wonderfully. More fool me for not sampling her talents earlier. She is now close to top of my W favs list.
[QUOTE=Dubner32;2298515]My Big Mistake! New Angelina at W is Angie! Sure, remodelled with new boobs, lips and hairstyle and slimmer but Angie! My excuse is I had never sessioned with her before. Even so, dumb eh!
In room she is absolutely top. Open to any suggestion, active or passive, great kisser and really uses her petite body wonderfully. More fool me for not sampling her talents earlier. She is now close to top of my W favs list.[/QUOTE]Glad you had a great time.
Showing her more green than brown and blues sure does wonders :)
Howie.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2298322]
By the way, is it Adelina or Evelin standing on the right with the stick and wearing a hat on the September calendar picture now?[/QUOTE]Anyone have a direct link to this year's 2019 Wellcum calendar pdf?
As I've been unsubscribed to their email updates (due to updated privacy laws), I've tried looking for it on their main website and FB pages but no luck.
Thanks. Howie.
[QUOTE=Howie;2298780]Anyone have a direct link to this year's 2019 Wellcum calendar pdf?[/QUOTE]Look under the News tab.
Not nearly as good as last year.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2298322]By the way, is it Adelina or Evelin standing on the right with the stick and wearing a hat on the September calendar picture now?[/QUOTE]Looks like Evelin. I don't see Adelina anywhere in the calendar. Nice to see Lucia's tight pussy shot in the March pic (first brunette standing up on the bottom right). For me, best take is the hottie on the left wearing the white bobble hat in January's pic. She has a tasty rear. Anyone know who she is?
Thanks S&S for the calendar link details. Agreed last year's calendar was a lot better.
Howie.
[QUOTE=Howie;2298797]Looks like Evelin. I don't see Adelina anywhere in the calendar. Nice to see Lucia's tight pussy shot in the March pic (first brunette standing up on the bottom right). For me, best take is the hottie on the left wearing the white bobble hat in January's pic. She has a tasty rear. Anyone know who she is?
Thanks S&S for the calendar link details. Agreed last year's calendar was a lot better.
Howie.[/QUOTE]Not sure about the brunette on the left, but I think it is Rosalia on the right in that January picture with the ski's. Looking the best out of the two from my point of view there.
On the March picture there are mostly girls I don't know who is unfortunately. Including Lucia who does look good. I wonder who the brunette behind her with the naked tits is. Anais (the front blonde on the left there) has a nice pussy shot too. She is pretty cool once you get to know her. That pornstar look of hers may not be for all, but its not overdone in my eyes. Too bad she seems to be gone from the Veniamo list now.
I personally feel Lina (centre blonde) in the October picture had the best picture in this calendar. Even if Evelin looks just as good too. October picture is just more fun. But there were fewer highlights here than last year.
Tried Atlantis, Kufstein for first time after ski day, 1600 -2300.
Summary upfront: Top facilities, good food, average girls.
Found Atlantis at the very back of the Sud Gewergbeit (industrial Area) outside Kufstein. Private parking. Entry E80. Stylish small cub well decorated, most helpful English speaking reception. The club in the same general style as Globe but with much more invested in presentation.
It is a contact club so Main bar / greeting room had about 15 girls sitting in lingere looking fairly bored. Average girl would be older / heavier than average girl at Wellcum. There was also a small smoking room where a couple of champagne parties (E200+/ bottle) developed. This split detracted from the club atmosphere for me because the smoking room became the 'fun' focus and the main bar remained fairly cool. (I discovered later that CP, Innsbruck handles this situation much better. Report to follow.).
Top quality small Wellness area upstairs with all facilities, plentiful towels on hand. Porno kino adjacent. Also top quality rooms; good size, good furniture, well decorated, all with shower and WC. Probably best club rooms I have experienced anywhere.
Food to order from short daily menu (included in entry); good schhnitzel 'beaten' and cooked fresh. Cold buffet when kitchen closed after 10 PM.
Girls: I am not used to this style of contact bar and so did not enjoy. Maybe can chat without rooming but I sensed an obligation 'If you touch it you must buy it'. Need to go into training at Aphro or similar! The 3 of 25 I saw as top choices were soon taken for long champagne chats; not clear to me if guys are paying girls standard E70/30 mins for these hours cause if so, expensive chat, if not, when are girls making money? Had two rooms which were OK but not memorable.
Would only go again if stranded in Kufstein; prefer 40 min drive to CP, Innsbuck. However, report not completely fair cause I much prefer the Wellcum / Globe style of open approach to this 'contact' idea.
Extra For lesbo is 50€ For every girl but one time.
Example 2 girls for 1 h.
140 x 2.
Extra lesbo 2 x50€. The same x half h.
Extra CIM if you come in both mouth 50 x 2.
There are girls that offer to come together, but often one good and other average.
When inside you spread the voice, and the chick then come to you x offer their deprevete service.
I also prefer Circolo over Atlantis any day. But Atlantis has a strong fan base of people referring to it as the best saunaclub because of upstairs.
Stranded in Kufstein? Worse things can happen. It's an adorable town and landscape.
My first visits to CP. Summary upfront: Fine facilities, good food, quality girls.
Found CP in shopping / industrial area to East of Innsbruck. Private parking. Entry E80. Stylish modern medium size club well decorated, helpful English speaking reception. The club in the same general style as Wellcum.
It is a contact club but FKK so main bar had about 25 girls displaying their bodies; some using towels for slight cover. Probably about 40 'on duty'; good balance with number of clients. Smoking allowed in main room but very high ceiling meant air quality OK. Perhaps because girls generally high quality appearance it seemed easy to approach, talk, linger or move on. Maybe my problem at contact system Atlantis was the thought of getting stuck with a lemon. Although some may not be to my taste, all the girls at CP were 'doable'. Girls also at central bar, so easy to chat with while ordering drinks. For me, a contact system that works.
Porno kino and restaurant on ground floor. Cold buffet style with cooked meal after 1800. Heavy Italian presence among clients, as Wellcum, due easy connection and proximity to border.
Small Wellness area upstairs with all facilities, plentiful towels on hand. Also outside sun terrace with second jaccuzi. Good quality rooms, all with shower, both up and downstairs.
Girls: Mainly Ro. , no surprise! I had appointment with fav from another club, Lorena, 21, probably youngest girl I have been with. Petite frame with flawless fresh skin; large handful natural swinging boobs; sweet, sweet pussy; 3 years in the business so knows the job; only light kisser; no fingers in. Light upselling, suggestion 'smoke' on offer. Young girl manners in some ways (phone etc) but a real joy to feast on that delicious body.
Also sessioned with Vanessa; good fun and another, name forgotten. Price E70/30.
Would definitely go again. I usually travel from Italy so may choose to visit Innsbruck rather than Villach (Wellcum / Andiamo) for a change. If I lived anywhere near Lago di Garda / Verona, I would be a regular.
I am visiting the Graz-area in the start of May. I have visited german FKK's through the years, and my favorites are the big ones. I prefer Sharks in Darmstadt before Artemis in Berlin, and think the small FKK's are a little boring compared to the bigger ones.
I don't know yet if I am flying in to Munchen or Vienna, hiring a car. What would you suggest as the best FKK between Munchen-Vienna-Graz? Open for all suggestions.
Girls: About 20.2-3 hot ones. Jasmine being a 9 for looks. Most girls were not too attractive, with the range going all the way from 3-9. Soraya has apparently moved on to better pastures. I wonder where she is now, but it has been months since she was last at Andiamo.
Food: Wine for dinner was not too bad. Food was better than at GT Vienna, but far far below Wellcum. Chef had a bit of lazy attitude with other mongers when asked about stuff.
Didn't try the milking table option, but I wonder if the big tits MILF is the masseuse. If that is the case, then I missed out on something. She did have that erotic professional kinky look to her!
Was it worth it? 85 entry for this club seems me to be too much. Sure you can enjoy beautiful Jasmine if she is your type, and try the milking table. But don't expect the world. And I was told that all the girls that had been there last summer had now moved on to other clubs. Such as Wellcum where great girls like Gya and Mischa are both ex Andiamo. Gya especially has a great attitude and looks very sweet.
[QUOTE=Dubner32;2299342]My first visits to CP. Summary upfront: Fine facilities, good food, quality girls.[/QUOTE]Was there around then, 1st and last time. Of course taste thing, but pretty dismal lineup, barely warm jacuzzi, all too expensive for little quality. German clubs much better.
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2305157]Was there around then, 1st and last time. Of course taste thing, but pretty dismal lineup, barely warm jacuzzi, all too expensive for little quality. German clubs much better.[/QUOTE]Circolo is a good club and definitely better than many German clubs. Makes no sense at all to make that general comparision. Comparing to the very best German, Swisss or Austrian clubs, of course Circolo is not on the same level but then again, as I said multiple times, there also isn't a demand for that many FKK clubs in Austria because we really prefer normal tradional clubs over FKK. When in Innsbruck, Circolo is absolutely among the best choices that you have unless you have a private plane or helicopter at your disposal to quickly do some light late-evening-brothel-hopping across the alps or whatever.
MP,
See your comment 'prefer normal traditional clubs over FKK'. Not clear which type of club you are suggesting. Please give some suggestions or examples. Thanks, D.
[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2305260]Circolo is a good club and definitely better than many German clubs. Makes no sense at all to make that general comparision. Comparing to the very best German, Swisss or Austrian clubs, of course Circolo is not on the same level but then again, as I said multiple times, there also isn't a demand for that many FKK clubs in Austria because we really prefer normal tradional clubs over FKK. When in Innsbruck, Circolo is absolutely among the best choices that you have unless you have a private plane or helicopter at your disposal to quickly do some light late-evening-brothel-hopping across the alps or whatever.[/QUOTE]I just discovered Circolo a couple days ago and though it was great. It definitely exceeded my expectations. (I reported on it in the Tirol thread here).
[QUOTE=Dubner32;2305275]MP,
See your comment 'prefer normal traditional clubs over FKK'. Not clear which type of club you are suggesting. Please give some suggestions or examples. Thanks, D.[/QUOTE]In all of Austria there are not more than 15 FKK clubs. Off the top of my head I count 12 but I might have forgotten some. Some of those FKKs are very small and almost not relevant in the greater brothel scheme. Those 15 FKKs can't occupy more than 600-700 sexworkers because some of them are pretty small and often have less than 20 girls on average. With a couple thousand registered sexworkers in Austria, I estimate 7000+ of them, the market share of FKKs is a generous estimation of 10% max. By far the biggest of all of them (considered by many to be the best club in Europe) is FKK Wellcum. But Austrians don't really go there. Wellcum and Andiamo merely exist because of the nearby Italian border and also Slovenia and Croatia being close.
That leaves a rest of a few thousand sexworkers and all the other punters spreading among all the other places. A few dozen Laufhauses, a dozen Peepshows, a few hundreds sexbars and a few hundred sex studios and massage parlors. Those sexbars are what I consider the original sexclubs which is also why I said traditional clubs. Those are bars in which there is music, drinks, maybe pole dancing and rooms on sight. Sometimes there is food but mostly there isn't. Sexbars are by far the preferred clubs for us Austrians.
The best and most famous ones are Babylon, Casabianca, Maxim, Carisma and too many more to mention. Also Circolo Passion has a beauty of a sexbar next to the FKK part of it.
Don't compare the German FKK landscape to the Austrian one. They couldn't be more different.
Not that I agree with all the numbers / estimations but as far as context is concerned I think you are spot on.
And don't forget Pasha club which is very popular where ever they pop up. Best one is probably in Kln Germany. Not that I want to compare Germany to Austria, don't worry! Pasha in Salzburg is the best one the chain in Austria AFAIK.
Massimo,
I have been to a few places like these sexbars you mention. But in Germany. Berlin or Frankfurt. And every time I get the sense of a high scam factor. Are you saying these Austrian sexbar places are not scam joints?
[QUOTE=Pistons;2306174]Massimo,
I have been to a few places like these sexbars you mention. But in Germany. Berlin or Frankfurt. And every time I get the sense of a high scam factor. Are you saying these Austrian sexbar places are not scam joints?[/QUOTE]Why would they be scam joints? The ones I mentioned are of course legit. And so are most of the others as well.
At least that is what they claim. And frankly, I was not at all disappointed either. They say there is more sun on the south side of the alps than on the north side. So even if the resorts are not as big on the south side (including Italy except Sella Ronda), and if we look away from the larger resorts to the west on the french border.
I cannot remember having seen as much clear sky every single day for a full week while skiing / snowboarding before. It was not a single cloud all week.
The resort is probably the best there is if you want to end up at Wellcum or Andiamo later at night. And looking at the plans forward, they want to build a gondola from the Italian border town of Pontebba also. When done, that would cut the travel time down to Marina (if or when it reopens) down to just 1 h and 20 min. From Nassfeld to Wellcum it currently takes 40 minutes to drive.
It is a good size lift system with 110 km of slopes. And before going I compared it to Kronplatz in Italy. From my personal point of view it looks like it is almost identical in terms of size and modernness. Both places do lack in off piste opportunities, but the prepped slopes are good. Kronplatz may have more good restaurants however. At Nassfeld there are both the too expensive terrible food options, as well as two or three really good restaurants up in the slopes. A few of which are across the Italian border. Thankfully, if ending the day at Wellcum, good food won't be lacking! Yes, there is currently also 1 lift on the Italian side. And that is where they want to expand the system also. The best restaurant I found was restaurant 1 on the 2018/19 piste map. Half way down Garnitzen Alm. But the restaurant is so popular also, that it was though to get a seat there!
The best slopes were the FIS slope 1. As well as the 3/4 slope down Watschiger Alm. A lift up Auernig is also the next expansion plan, and should be a good choice given the proximity to slope 3 and 4.
The slopes on the main side (lift 10 and 25) were not too interesting. But mainly due to too many people skiing there, so the slopes got way too bumpy. Slope 7, 8 and 9 was also good, although not too steep. The terrain and view there was good. And while the view at slope 50 and 51 was not the best, the slopes there were quite good before too many people had ruined them and made them into moguls, like on the main side (lift 10 and 25). Lift 21,22 and 23 had the shadow valley problem. So not too good sight. At least towards the end of the day. But some runs there are steep, so you can get good speeds! The well marketed Carnia run at 8 km was fine, although not very good for snowboarding (low inclination in parts). It did make me tired. But mainly due to the lower side of slope having melted a bit. So the snow was very slushy on the lower 200-300 height meters. Which is below everything else in the slope system at Nassfeld.
All in all I felt I didn't need to go elsewhere. And the proximity to Villach is really nice. I would rate the resort on the same level as Penken in Mayrhofen, or Zillertal Arena. Not as good as Ischgl, but cheaper.
Well that was a Nassfeld ski resort review. What happened to the headline I tried to add?
Pistos,
The Nassfeld / Wellcum combo remains my top ski / fun fav. Though this season Wengen / Palace came close. Brilliant sunny days piste cruising under the Eiger Nordwand followed by Evelyn / Aida trio. That's the life. Though shame the Lauterbrunnen / Gisikon drive is quite so long. Compare notes next winter?
Do you mean Palace in Frankfurt? From Wengen to there, my google maps tells me its a 4 h 38 m drive. A bit stiff for an apres ski don't you think?
I look at [URL]skiresort.info[/URL] and google maps to find the top ski resorts myself. Looking at km of intermediate and expert slopes. But it doesn't make the correct picture always. And slope length can be off. As well as some resorts actually being divided in two, while others not including all, even after a lift upgrade. But wengen does seem more hyped than the info suggests. Even if the world cup competition does make it seem great. For Switzerland I've more looked at verbier and zermatt as well as laax. Ischgl is the best resort I have ever been to though. But location compared to FKK's doesn't seem the best for many of the swizz resorts. Although Ischgl to Circolo Passion is just an hour. Even if you go to Zurich afterwards, driving in Switzerland can take time.
2 fantastic girls at Wellcum I can only recommend is Isabela and Ana. I repeated with both, and they have great attitudes and are smiling all the time. Isabela is friends with Daria too. Something which seems to be a staple of quality and proof of good influence. Ana seems a bit shy in the lounge, but blooms when you get to know her. She is also supercute.
Aside from that, lineup in general changes like an avalanche. Many girls have left, and just half the rooster survives 6 months it seems. Lorena, Amelia, Elisa, Angie, Daria, Manuela etc and some other top girls are still left. But Nia, Vanessa and others have left it seems.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2314311]Do you mean Palace in Frankfurt? From Wengen to there, my google maps tells me its a 4 h 38 m drive.[/QUOTE]I think he must mean Club Palace near Lucerne.
Yes, SaS, thank you. I did mean Palace in Gisikon / Root just north east of Lucerne.
Do Italian border regulars know if beautiful Marina club will re open? I preferred than Wellcum on August 2018 , was good casting even on Monday and Tuesday with discount entry. Good foods, good drinks, beautiful swimming pool, just miss beautiful Carinthians mountains. Had 2 really interesting girls at Marina, when full of charm before room, Tea. It was so disappointing, just suck and fuck, in bed for Ferragosto party, so lower than exceptional Lena on Ferragosto 2017.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2326689]Do Italian border regulars know if beautiful Marina club will re open? I preferred than Wellcum on August 2018 , was good casting even on Monday and Tuesday with discount entry. Good foods, good drinks, beautiful swimming pool, just miss beautiful Carinthians mountains. Had 2 really interesting girls at Marina, when full of charm before room, Tea. It was so disappointing, just suck and fuck, in bed for Ferragosto party, so lower than exceptional Lena on Ferragosto 2017.[/QUOTE]Indeed, that pool outside is easily the best in any FKK's I have visited. Only problem for me was 38 degrees and not a cloud in the sky. So had to go a bit easy on the tanning, or prepare it more before visiting. Mediterranean climate is a nice change of pace for this FKK hobby.
No info yet on Marina reopening, but I found this list of ex Marina girls and where they have landed now:
Al Wellcum:
Bianca (now Bruna).
Serena (now Ilona).
Anka.
Daria (now Yustine).
Sheyla.
Luana (Madalina).
Mery.
Taylor.
Katy (Ecaterina).
Karina (Tiffany).
Sandi.
Mila.
Selina ex Sara Let's go (now Anisia).
Two other of which I don't know / remember the names.
Soraya at the Circolo Passion with the name of Morena.
Valeria at Kufstein's Atlantis.
At the Globe;.
Selena (now?
Aura (Nadira).
Ella (Kate (Seeds (Simina).
My response to this would be that I wonder if it is the same Soraya who was also at Wellcum, now working at CP.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2329201]Indeed, that pool outside is easily the best in any FKK's I have visited. Only problem for me was 38 degrees and not a cloud in the sky. So had to go a bit easy on the tanning, or prepare it more before visiting. Mediterranean climate is a nice change of pace for this FKK hobby.
No info yet on Marina reopening, but I found this list of ex Marina girls and where they have landed now:
Al Wellcum:
Bianca (now Bruna)..[/QUOTE]Best swimming pool for me is Oase, with bubbles to play on my 29 yo woman type clit to give her orgasmus, we usually have at least 1 hour foreplay in the garden and 1 hour in room, she never told me about money, for only 100 and I m sure she would agree to repeat on same day. She changed her public behavior after I explained her I don t desire prostitute behavior. Like 26 yo pretty Polish ex GT Vienna, real women like nice devil. Took too much sun playing too much football in the garden yesterday.
Where did you get these information? After my great finals in Verbier and la Grave I made even more extreme in narrow, bumpy, 2 spots, you saw where, Scott Neo are now resting after a great free ride tour until returning to la Tyrolienne and Lou lake free ride in Val Thorens for next Christmas, wish Cime Caron lift will be repaired, when Verbier Mont Gelé have new lift now and I made 5 extreme runs below to thank them, only me for 3h30 , but now I only think about my 2 finals in Mortirolo and Zoncolan, first try for Zoncolan around Ferragosto party and for record on end of September for the end of season. For ex Mila Marina I would run to Wellcum, I enjoyed so much how she changed behavior and her tears at the end of our room.
New Nadira at Globe is said to be Ukrainian and silicon. Kate Globe is for sure not from Marina. There is a new Simina at Globe, but on last August I didn't see many Globe level looks at Marina, super sexy Mila was, and casting could compete with average Wellcum on last August compare to exceptionnal 2017.
Where I got the info from?
Italian forum of course.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2330197]Where I got the info from?
Italian forum of course.[/QUOTE]I wish its reliable for Mila. Ro who was my best surprise on August 2018, better than at Wellcum, but I doubt for Marina girls moving to Globe, I didn't see such looks.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2329201]Indeed, that pool outside is easily the best in any FKK's I have visited. Only problem for me was 38 degrees and not a cloud in the sky. So had to go a bit easy on the tanning, or prepare it more before visiting. Mediterranean climate is a nice change of pace for this FKK hobby.
No info yet on Marina reopening, but I found this list of ex Marina girls and where they have landed now:
Al Wellcum:
Bianca (now Bruna).
Serena (now Ilona).
Anka.
Daria (now Yustine)..[/QUOTE]Claiming to be Swiss, Sandi is so GFE, even I preferred how Mila will to improve.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2330251]Claiming to be Swiss, Sandi is so GFE, even I preferred how Mila will to improve.[/QUOTE]Yes, but physical attraction needs to be there. At these clubs we all tend to get very choosy after awhile. I cannot say I don't like Sandy nor Mila, but I do not recall their names specifically. So for me unless I missed them being in the club at all, they were most likely not for me.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2332045]Yes, but physical attraction needs to be there. At these clubs we all tend to get very choosy after awhile. I cannot say I don't like Sandy nor Mila, but I do not recall their names specifically. So for me unless I missed them being in the club at all, they were most likely not for me.[/QUOTE]Both at Marina on August 2018, but Sandi is woman type look and Mila is model type, not petite girl like Angie.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2332497]Both at Marina on August 2018, but Sandi is woman type look and Mila is model type, not petite girl like Angie.[/QUOTE]I have no idea what model type look, nor woman type look is to you either.
Angie is petite yes, but I wouldn't archetype it. Angie is Angie. A top 10 girl for sure at Wellcum. Maybe top 5 even. But that is that.
I wouldn't say I only go for petite girls. To me, someone like Manuela or Elisa are woman type for example. And all 3 of these girls are all model types in addition. Heck, all top 15 girls for me at Wellcum, I would define as model types.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2326689]Do Italian border regulars know if beautiful Marina club will re open? I preferred than Wellcum on August 2018 , was good casting even on Monday and Tuesday with discount entry. Good foods, good drinks, beautiful swimming pool, just miss beautiful Carinthians mountains. Had 2 really interesting girls at Marina, when full of charm before room, Tea. It was so disappointing, just suck and fuck, in bed for Ferragosto party, so lower than exceptional Lena on Ferragosto 2017.[/QUOTE]Marina its closed forever.
Yes the swimming pool was great.
For 15th August party you have to go at Wellcum.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2332865]I have no idea what model type look, nor woman type look is to you either.
Angie is petite yes, but I wouldn't archetype it. Angie is Angie. A top 10 girl for sure at Wellcum. Maybe top 5 even. But that is that.
I wouldn't say I only go for petite girls. To me, someone like Manuela or Elisa are woman type for example. And all 3 of these girls are all model types in addition. Heck, all top 15 girls for me at Wellcum, I would define as model types.[/QUOTE]Angie looks like a little doll, less than 1,60 , saying what the fuck, even lovely fire in bed. Sandi ex Marina looks more woman and Mila is nearly 1,70 with round firm ass.
[QUOTE=Tropea317;2333034]Marina its closed forever.
Yes the swimming pool was great.
For 15th August party you have to go at Wellcum.[/QUOTE]When I m preparing my bicycle, since last climbings on end of September, really bad news for this really beautiful club, but I will go again for Zoncolan and to see if really a 28% climbing road not far from Ovaro, as said Carabinieri. Now will be time for climbings.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2333096]Angie looks like a little doll, less than 1,60 , saying what the fuck, even lovely fire in bed. Sandi ex Marina looks more woman and Mila is nearly 1,70 with round firm ass.[/QUOTE]So by your definition, a model needs a certain arbitrary height? Who came up with that idea? Since the word model says nothing about height requirements. By the way, it seems Angie knows she looks like a doll. According to Veniamo, she just changed her name to Barbie. LOL.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2333795]So by your definition, a model needs a certain arbitrary height? Who came up with that idea? Since the word model says nothing about height requirements. By the way, it seems Angie knows she looks like a doll. According to Veniamo, she just changed her name to Barbie. LOL.[/QUOTE]Nothing negative about a doll look and Angie was just fire in bed for me and I even repeated on Ferragosto when she was so focused on her show which seemed so important for her. For me, her small tits were perfect, she really didn t need silicon, but for sure, Barbi is a perfect job name about image she wants to have. Other doll is Estefania Oase. I just prefer woman or model type look, I like curves like Kate, long legs. Mila has ass curves. Tea. It was so much more woman for me, great and charming for breakfast together, but unfortunately not on Angie level in bed. Supermodels have now to be 1,76 and long legs, because some origins have shorter legs.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2335114]Nothing negative about a doll look and Angie was just fire in bed for me and I even repeated on Ferragosto when she was so focused on her show which seemed so important for her. For me, her small tits were perfect, she really didn t need silicon, but for sure, Barbi is a perfect job name about image she wants to have. Other doll is Estefania Oase. I just prefer woman or model type look, I like curves like Kate, long legs. Mila has ass curves. Tea. It was so much more woman for me, great and charming for breakfast together, but unfortunately not on Angie level in bed. Supermodels have now to be 1,76 and long legs, because some origins have shorter legs.[/QUOTE]Only Victoria Secrets have these lame height requirements. IMO it turns me off, as that is too high for me. But more and more fashion brands go with alternative physiques too these days.
Yes, Estephania is also a doll. But so are many others too. Some may have turned less doll like when hitting age 23+ due to no gym and / or bad diet, but they may gain in a pussy able to take it all instead. Pluses and minuses. Although Estephania never had problems with that. Not to mention the little firecracker Bulgarian Nicole, last I met at GT Vienna.
There was another girl named Barbie also, at GT Bruggen. What happened to her anyway? Hot, but I never got to try since I only saw her once. She was Hungarian I think.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2335543]Only Victoria Secrets have these lame height requirements. IMO it turns me off, as that is too high for me. But more and more fashion brands go with alternative physiques too these days.
Yes, Estephania is also a doll. But so are many others too. Some may have turned less doll like when hitting age 23+ due to no gym and / or bad diet, but they may gain in a pussy able to take it all instead. Pluses and minuses. Although Estephania never had problems with that. Not to mention the little firecracker Bulgarian Nicole, last I met at GT Vienna.
There was another girl named Barbie also, at GT Bruggen. What happened to her anyway? Hot, but I never got to try since I only saw her once. She was Hungarian I think.[/QUOTE]For fashion business, supermodels are taller than 1,76. On this week end, got a 1,85 woman type with curves, and what a woman in bed.
Estefania, or Angie even she is fire in bed, are little girls for me. Barbi who started at Finca, then Bab, then Samya for a short while, then superstar with ashtray breathe at GT, is Romanian, real friend with Kity. Barbi stopped at the moment, Kity is off.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2333795]So by your definition, a model needs a certain arbitrary height? Who came up with that idea? Since the word model says nothing about height requirements. By the way, it seems Angie knows she looks like a doll. According to Veniamo, she just changed her name to Barbie. LOL.[/QUOTE]The height requirement for models is standard across the fashion industry. [B] the British Association of Model Agents (AMA) says that female models should be around 34"-24"-34" and between 5 ft 8 in (173 cm) and 5 ft 11 in (180 cm) tall. The average model is very slender. Those who do not meet the size requirement may try to become a plus-size model. [/B].
With the hotweather, Wellcum is a great place to be on a Thursday (FKK Day). Take the sun in the garden while you relax, dip in the pool if overheating, the bar / lounge and ruheraum remain cool due efficient air-con (as in most of the fun rooms) and of course, the girls are strolling around naked. Yes, not all stunnners like some places but average standard high. Annabel looking superb, new girl Raluca great fun GND and Barbie (ex-Angie). I hadn't sessioned with her in a while and forgotten what a devilish erotic angel she is.
Also, management is investing; a good sign. The new building is two thirds complete. Not clear if it will be new girl hotel or guest hotel extension but works will result better girl sleeping rooms, more guest hotel rooms and some more fun rooms. I was told (CNCOD) the plan is to upgrade the current licence from 114 girls (max 105 working at one time) to 150. Makes sense, an ex-Globe friend told me she asked to join W a few days ago and was told flatly: Sorry, No space. Also, some of the girls are lockering in the guys locker room.
Sadly, many of the other top girls are on holiday now. I had forgotten that weeks 2 and 3 of August are peak weeks at W so the top girls want to be present then. How the Italian guys convince their families they are 'working' around Ferragusto holiday beats me. The country seems shut for the summer. Those guys are probably the only ones who are working!
I believe high season starts in July, and ends soon after ferragosta. Last year I think all the girls told me that they had been there since mid July when I was there in Aug.
But Dubner, which clubs has only stunners? I somehow doubt it is the situation anywhere.
Makes sense what you are saying though. On Telegram, the manager posts queries all the time towards the members of the group which suggests they have tons and tons of girl applicants. Marina shutdown must have been a big boon now. It didn't seem to have an immediate effect in March last I was there, but these things probably just took a month or two extra.
Superb weather. I've always thought it crazy layout the pool being shaded PM; today it made sense!
FKK days are now Thursday and Monday. Introduction on Thurs must have been a success. Today 'normal' girls choice day; quick survey gave 20% naked, 20% topless or bottomless, 60% conventional lingerie. Barbie / Angie says 'bodies' are now banned. (Wonder why. She looked stunning in her usual white body uniform before.) Now she wears fine minimal black lingerie. On her tan, gorgeous!
Wish for August 2017 level for looks, maybe with Mila from Marina, or a new Lena who gave me a so great Ferragosto 2017 party.
How strict are they on the all naked part though? In some clubs that just means no hiding of tits and pussies.
Personally I find all completely naked to get very tedious and boring after awhile. Surr it can be fun if you only go one day, but not when I go 3+ days in a row.
I will always prefer girls with long boots or some sort of leggings up to the tights. And the right corsette, even if that is rare to see.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2341228]How strict are they on the all naked part though? In some clubs that just means no hiding of tits and pussies.
Personally I find all completely naked to get very tedious and boring after awhile. Surr it can be fun if you only go one day, but not when I go 3+ days in a row.
I will always prefer girls with long boots or some sort of leggings up to the tights. And the right corsette, even if that is rare to see.[/QUOTE]Chic, sexy lingerie is more exciting for me than full naked bodies. I remember my LR Eve with white lingerie and white stockings, looking at me how I put her off, like for honeymoon sex. So erotic game, so enjoyable.
From what I have seen answer is Yes and No! Some girls go nude except jewelry and shoes. Some wear body adornments like stockings or belt or light chains. A few use their towel to cover; usually the shy types. I think management do keep an eye out and 'remind' but are not draconian about it. I reckon you get two eyes full of naked boobs and pussy on an FKK day and it would be pedantic to pressure every single girl.
I also prefer, the 'just slightly hidden' approach. While full nudity has a beauty of its own, a hint of covering (but not) is (in my opinion) more erotic. (YMMV).
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2341043]Wish for August 2017 level for looks, maybe with Mila from Marina, or a new Lena who gave me a so great Ferragosto 2017 party.[/QUOTE]No Ferragosto party on this August, usually on Saturday around 10?
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2341563]No Ferragosto party on this August, usually on Saturday around 10?[/QUOTE]Yes I know. I messed up my trip last August. Ending up going 1 weekend late. Anyway, July party for me this year on the 20th. And it seems they have a new thing starting this time for the July party: Miss Wet Tits! LOL.
And special guest Malena is back again. But I do wonder how much of a special guest someone is when she is back there on about 6 parties a year. Hehe.
Also looks like there is work on the outdoor 90° sauna that should be done on Thursday. Not sure why. It worked fine last time. But the wood had a tendency to get extremely hot. Maybe they are getting a new type of wood to sit on now. The posted picture showed the wood where we sit has been removed.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2341829]Yes I know. I messed up my trip last August. Ending up going 1 weekend late. Anyway, July party for me this year on the 20th. And it seems they have a new thing starting this time for the July party: Miss Wet Tits! LOL.[/QUOTE]No information about Ferragosto party? Angie was so focused on her dance show on last August.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2342180]No information about Ferragosto party? Angie was so focused on her dance show on last August.[/QUOTE]All 2019 party dates are set long time ago, since they are all included in the yearly calendar. Ferragosto party is on Aug. 10th.
Barbie looks like a dolled up version of Elsa Jean now. More like Elsa Jean than before, but also prettier. She is so into character it is funny. And I knew she would become hotter and hotter by time. But right now I don't know if it is possible to take it any farther. But that hair! Haha. Talk about going extreme barbie. Is she 22 years maybe?
Other hot girls this summer:
Lorena will always be a favourite. And she is also getting hotter and hotter. Maybe the most fit girl at Wellcum. Only danger is if she takes the fitness so far that it hurts her beauty sleep. So that much gym alongside long workdays can be draining for sleep and / or immune defense. But she is a trooper! 22 years old maybe.
Denisee is what some guy told me. 'An ordinary girl, with an amazing butt!" And that's what he wants. Just an ordinary girl, but with an amazing butt! Haha, well Madam Tussaud might have some work to do here! Holy! I would guess 22 years old or so.
Sara. If you have gone 6 months without having a room with Sara, something is wrong with you. Quote from Telegram. I now know why. She was even more than I hoped for! Maybe 26 years or so.
Fabia. Very sexy. Petite and a pretty face with a sexy body. I think she was more fit last time, but more beautiful face now. Maybe 22 ish years old.
Olga. Russian or not, her Russian bad words got a 10/10, so I am sold. I do think she is Russian. And with a top body as well. Claims to be 24.
Evelin. She may have a poker face, but there is a sweetheart underneath! Is she 21 maybe.
I could have mentioned others too.
Spotted new girl Serena by reception. Very pretty face! I missed out on hyped up Chantale. Maybe next time.
Wellcum goes from strength to strength. New 'gazebos' in garden. Rained today but hope to try 'frei-luft sex' tomorrow.
Barbie; awesome, and so keen. Hadn't sessioned with Daria in a while (was 'Red' Daria now chestnut with new boobs); really good to have her back. Newbie Raluca very willing and enthusiastic. Bella also giving top service. Julia looking superb as usual.
To my mind, just too many people at Pool Party; queue for rooms was down the stairs with 5 couples working out in the Kino. Some guys were unused to this level of public sex and crowding the doorway to view. Good to note that, although viewing, there was no intrusion, or to my mind, offensive beheaviour (like close masturbation at Globe on Tuesdays) by watchers.
Next three weeks are peak season at W with IT Ferragosto holidays; unlike CH where it appears to be low season. Also because of summer holidays. Go figure.
I will skip Ferragosto Party because I don't like crowds but anticipate full complement of 104 girls. Reputation as the top party of the year.
Building work on the new 'girls hotel' and car park continue apace. Apparently the current girls sleeping rooms will be converted into more guest (male) hotel rooms. Clearly, that side of the business is a success. Good to see strong investment by owner.
Yeah, I've decided to avoid parties at WC from now on. At least the most popular ones like pool party, Ferragosto, miss Wellcum etc. Crowds are just too much! Only parties I feel like checking out might be the may and October parties. Because I like leather, haha. But that's it.
Silicon is really bad point for ex Angie / Barbie and Darla, they really didn't need, like too many silicon at Globe. What is your top service at Wellcum? Compare to Globe, when most of Italians who make Wellcum business, are not demanding about french kissing, when I really need to enjoy sex. I wish for ex Mila Marina, would be interested to see her reaction, 1 year after and after only 1 room, to know if it was truth or not?
Rumors going around that the construction on the new building will be done in September. So hopefully a lot easier to get rooms at the hotel after that.
Siri,
A couple of respectful comments on your last post here.
I think you miss the point completely with Barbie (ex-Angie). This woman has chosen deliberately to shape (through modification and exercise) her body as a Barbie Doll. She has also adjusted her voice and beheaviour to Barbie style and chosen the name Barbie for those who don't see the obvious. It is her marketing strategy. Many may not agree with her strategy but there are thousands of girls remaing 'natural' so to critique the (only?) one who has taken this fairly extreme approach for not doing the same as those thousands seems to me to be a misunderstanding. You don't like silicon, fair enough. She has chosen to take it for marketing purposes, also fair enough.
Also, her service is outstanding; not just my opinion on this forum.
'French' kissing at Wellcum. Some girls do not provide, some do. At other places eg. Globe, DFK is on the the service rules which is one reason why many girls prefer W despite lower money. To DFK or not is the girls choice at W and probably, for some, varies with client, familiarity with client, length of room, mood that day!, etc. I DFK with 5 girls at W and room with others who do not. However, I am fairly regular at W and, as a non-Italian, am an unusual, therefore memorable, client. I have found the 5 over 3 years and rarely room for less than 90 minutes, so they know me. These factors may influence their service.
There has been talk on this site of kiss-test-before-room. This is logical. However, I saw a guy slobbering all over Molly's face at the Globe bar the other day and it was so gross I forgot my drink and walked away. That is the pleasure of Globe that W chooses not offer; you have freedom to do what you want with any of the girls.
I know Angie and she knew my respectful behavior with her for 2 days on last August. I think I will not find little fire in bed, what the fuck on this Summer. I like, even when non perfect, flesh.
Hi,
Just wondering if anyone here has visited Casa Carinthia lately? I typically go there instead of Wellcum and Andiamo but haven't been in over a year. Just wondering as we may head that way in a few weeks.
Only problem with silly cones is that girls are afraid of squeezing them. And more so when new than when they get older. And then they hold you back during missionary. Which is a massive turn off. But when they are on top, it is nice. Overall, I think we all prefer naturals due to the squeezing issues of silly cones. But aside from that, I don't have problems with the looks of them.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2353870]Only problem with silly cones is that girls are afraid of squeezing them. And more so when new than when they get older. And then they hold you back during missionary. Which is a massive turn off. But when they are on top, it is nice. Overall, I think we all prefer naturals due to the squeezing issues of silly cones. But aside from that, I don't have problems with the looks of them.[/QUOTE]Silicon is just a shape to watch, but flesh is much better to touch or lick. Angie and Darla had perfect natural tits and some girls lose business after silicon, they are less woman for me and I will always prefer women rather than dolls.
Ans once again the winner takes it all and it is Wellcum for sure. Amazing line-up and the house is packed as if there's no tomorrow. I can't help but take a bow and congratulate the management for what they are achieving.
BTW rumour has it that Andiamo wants to give it another shot with new but actually ancient management. Sort of a revival with the guys who once ran Andiamo when it still was the frontrunner and way ahead of competition some years ago. We'll see what will happen but my money is on Wellcum in this race. Girls seem kinda excited by the prospect of having a 2nd strong competitor.
Disappointing casting for me at Wellcum on Friday 9 and Saturday Ferragosto party, beautiful natural tits seen but real lack of pretty faces, of course couldn t repeat even welcoming with Angi now Barbi and I think she saw in my eyes her difference. By far prettiest for me was Georgia claiming now to be Ukrainian from Odessa when she was blond Romanian Ina at Acapulco Velbert and got her for 80/ hour. She wanted 100 , I gave her club rate 80 and we repeated, maybe because she enjoyed to cum, among Turkish, but I let her to her way for business at Wellcum. Alexa was quite good in bed, starting BBBJ on her knees, me still standing up, but not pretty enough for me to repeat. Malena was not so bad, showing me how to make her cum, but nothing to repeat on Saturday. On Saturday party, guys were in the garden, girls were waiting for business, no line to wait for room, no desirable new girl for me, so no room, my 2 1 hour rooms were on Friday. Best on party was like every year, to see girls dancing like crazy, shaking ass, around midnight. Sad Ferragosto party, some girls without business left early, nothing compare to 2017 , when I finished with Lena when club was already closed and lights on after 3 am. I preferred Andiamo on Sunday, with prettier faces than at Wellcum, problem at Andiamo is free alcohol and drunk guys who bother girls who are tired at night. Sara asked me to come and stay with her, about a drunk guy. I miss Marina which was higher level than Wellcum on past August. Quantity don t mean quality for me. Claimed Russian and she speaks Russian, Olga is friendly, but not pretty enough for my desire. Real lack of beauties for me at Wellcum on August 2018 and 2019 , far below 2017 . Of course, Mila could have changed the game, if she remembers Marina.
[QUOTE=MonSooner;2359410]BTW rumour has it that Andiamo wants to give it another shot with new but actually ancient management. Sort of a revival with the guys who once ran Andiamo when it still was the frontrunner and way ahead of competition some years ago. We'll see what will happen but my money is on Wellcum in this race. Girls seem kinda excited by the prospect of having a 2nd strong competitor.[/QUOTE]So what are they going to do? Do they have a sorceress or a magician in the management? New chef? Renovation? How are they going to attract the girls? Normally guys go where the girls are. But girls has to move first. And which girls will want to just wait there for the guys to eventually switch? Do they plan on some sort of kick off?
I just think this is a hard pull.
I think you forgot the summary to your report here Sirioja:
- You don't like Botox. Both Barbie and Olga has a bit, yet they both are 2 out of 4 names in your report.
Anyway, I feel that might have reduced your impression on the rest of the lineup. Because certainly 30 girls at Andiamo weren't better than 110 at Wellcum. But crowds can be deceiving, and with fewer girls at Andiamo, maybe you have more time to look at everyone.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2360163]I think you forgot the summary to your report here Sirioja:
- You don't like Botox. Both Barbie and Olga has a bit, yet they both are 2 out of 4 names in your report.
Anyway, I feel that might have reduced your impression on the rest of the lineup. Because certainly 30 girls at Andiamo weren't better than 110 at Wellcum. But crowds can be deceiving, and with fewer girls at Andiamo, maybe you have more time to look at everyone.[/QUOTE]I spent whole not so crowded Friday 9 August and whole Saturday Ferragosto, nearly 30 hours turning around at Wellcum. It was easy to see lack of business for girls on party. Unfortunately, even Angie was good for me on last August, even welcoming, but couldn't return with her now, when I need woman look. My 2 tries were not wow to repeat, on Saturday, on most famous day of the year, I only returned wishing for new girls like Tia. It on last Summer or Mila, but some girls were even missing and couldn't find the faintest new one, when easily found Morena and Sara at Andiamo on Sunday with maximum 30 girls at Andiamo but prettier faces. I could even go with a third one with red hair. 3 at Andiamo on Sunday, 0 at Wellcum on Ferragosto party and only 1 wow girl on 4 Summer and 10 days with about 10 girls tried. Angie and Natali. Hu were only 2 others to repeat, even I was not able to repeat with Natali. 6 1 hour rooms with Lena on 4 days. Quantity but I didn t see 100 girls and no wait for rooms, is not quality for me, same than Sharks. Of course, my subjective tastes and even Wellcum is a beautiful club with wonderful Carinthian mountains I enjoy to watch in the garden. I didn't see any Mila ex Marina look, but have to return to Zoncolan for my final and also to Gentile di Mione to get my body and mind used to such pain under so violent effort, survival climbing.
Among average casting seen at Wellcum except Georgia, most attractive is brunette on desk at night. When she wants, even for 200 for 1 hour. Didn't see her look level at Globe. Georgia would also be one of the most attractive look at Globe, but not for level in bed.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2360157]So what are they going to do? Do they have a sorceress or a magician in the management? New chef? Renovation? How are they going to attract the girls? Normally guys go where the girls are. But girls has to move first. And which girls will want to just wait there for the guys to eventually switch? Do they plan on some sort of kick off?
I just think this is a hard pull.[/QUOTE]I think it will be very tough for Andiamo because having Wellcum as a competitor is what I don't wish for my worst enemy as far as business is concerned.
[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2364987]I think it will be very tough for Andiamo because having Wellcum as a competitor is what I don't wish for my worst enemy as far as business is concerned.[/QUOTE]Wellcum was not so crowded on Friday 9 August and girls didn t seem so busy on Ferragosto party. Average casting for me. Are girls prettier at GT Vienna, even some left.
Anyone been back to Wellcum lately? I see tons of new names on Veniamo that I haven't seen before. Really wonder how the lineup is nowadays.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2379904]Anyone been back to Wellcum lately? I see tons of new names on Veniamo that I haven't seen before. Really wonder how the lineup is nowadays.[/QUOTE]Only your eyes will tell you. I only trust my eyes. They cried on this Summer at Wellcum, Globe and Aphrodisia. I preferred Andiamo casting on a Sunday than at Wellcum on Ferragosto party when had no room during 13 hours. Better now, they smile in Germany where some interesting girls with Globe level in bed for me.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2379904]Anyone been back to Wellcum lately? I see tons of new names on Veniamo that I haven't seen before. Really wonder how the lineup is nowadays.[/QUOTE]In Wellcum worked about 400 girls in last year regarding Veniamo web site. Most of popular girls, who worked there year or two ago, are still there, except some on holidays.
[QUOTE=Itponaus;2380311]In Wellcum worked about 400 girls in last year regarding Veniamo web site. Most of popular girls, who worked there year or two ago, are still there, except some on holidays.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I keep track fairly well there too. Didn't count that well, but 400 sounds like alot within one year! I thought it was more like 300-350, but perhaps you are right. Unfortunately some leave before I get to meet them. Perhaps you are right about the number I guess. They seem to get quite a bit more interest from girls than any other clubs I have been to in Germany I think. Right now, the total list at veniamo has 151 names.
But yes, most of the interesting girls seems to stay around, or are at vacation. Although just the past 3 months, I now see four girls that I had on my list and have enjoyed rooms with are gone: Ana, Fabia, Amelia and Manuela. And Nia seemed to be gone a month or two before that again. So unfortunately some favourites leave too. Then again, Ivet and Elena seems to have returned to the lineup very recently also. So even if old favourites are gone from the list at veniamo, I guess they can still make returns too.
Fair enough, I have about 15-20 names of girls I like there and know from before. Plus I spotted beautiful Serena in civilian clothes her first day at the club too (she didn't have the papers yet that day I think). So there seems to be good replacements coming in too if one is also to believe in pictures. Even if I get a bit amused at how different some girls are in person compared to these pictures sometimes. LOL. But I hope for more than just one new name to my shortlist.
My shortlist in random order of girls I have been with (11) or at least met in person (6) currently on veniamo: Lorena, Elena, Barbie, Gya, Malena, Sara, Isabela, Olga, Casandra, Daria, Elisa, Isabela, Denisee, Ivete, Lucia, Lina, Serena. But probably somewhere between a quarter and a third of the girls around at the moment, I haven't met.
And Evelin is around too.
Barbi will stay Angi on August 2018, for me. Olga, even Russian, but really not pretty enough for my desire. Malena was nice behavior, cute and fresh, but no need to repeat. Georgia ex Ina Velbert was the most interesting look for me on this Summer, sophisticated woman look. Wish for more attractive from Marina if I m able to manage to return to Zoncolan and Mortirolo before snow.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2380633]Yeah, I keep track fairly well there too. Didn't count that well, but 400 sounds like alot within one year! I thought it was more like 300-350, but perhaps you are right. Unfortunately some leave before I get to meet them. Perhaps you are right about the number I guess. They seem to get quite a bit more interest from girls than any other clubs I have been to in Germany I think. Right now, the total list at veniamo has 151 names.[/QUOTE]The newest girls have their ID numbers over 400, but it's true that some IDs were skipped and some girls were only on the list of non-present girls or were there only for a short time.
Does anybody know how many rooms upstairs at Wellcum? More than most often empty VIP with jacuzzi in lounge entry. I like arithmetic about number of girls working claimed by Wellcum, when only 1 real beauty is rare for me, only Georgia ex Ina Velbert. De on August for my eyes. Italian Tia on August 2018 with real charm on our breakfast but not good in bed, only for suck and fuck, not my way for sex. I need emotions from and with the girl, not I only do the job, I m not interested by technique, I m more interested by behavior and reactions.
I am pretty sure its 36, but I could be wrong. Could be 26, but that sounds a bit little. Ended with 6 at least. Seen as much as 8 or 9 couples waiting for a room also on a busy night.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2383992]I am pretty sure its 36, but I could be wrong. Could be 26, but that sounds a bit little. Ended with 6 at least. Seen as much as 8 or 9 couples waiting for a room also on a busy night.[/QUOTE]It could be 36 or about. About twenty rooms upstairs and left and other, newer rooms on the right side.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2383992]I am pretty sure its 36, but I could be wrong. Could be 26, but that sounds a bit little. Ended with 6 at least. Seen as much as 8 or 9 couples waiting for a room also on a busy night.[/QUOTE]Can t be 35 upstairs. VIP with jacuzzi in entry.
Also making this arithmetic a bit hard at Wellcum is the fact that you can bring the girls to your hotel room.
29 normal rooms and 2 smaller VIP rooms upstairs. So 31.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2385130]29 normal rooms and 2 smaller VIP rooms upstairs. So 31.[/QUOTE]Not so much for 100 girls. When girls were not busy on Ferragosto when I couldn't find only 1 attractive, rather than 100 average looks except Georgia ex Velbert. De, I would prefer only 1 Mila ex Marina who is top sexy for me and worth we work with manners to deserve her. Interesting behavior, what I look for, she was a beautiful surprise in Slovenia.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2385651]Not so much for 100 girls. When girls were not busy on Ferragosto when I couldn't find only 1 attractive, rather than 100 average looks except Georgia ex Velbert. De, I would prefer only 1 Mila ex Marina who is top sexy for me and worth we work with manners to deserve her. Interesting behavior, what I look for, she was a beautiful surprise in Slovenia.[/QUOTE]But only 14 (+2 that was almost never used) at Marina before they closed. And no hotel rooms to bring girls to there either. I don't know how many guys take girls to the hotel rooms, but I notice some long rooms lasting hours seems to go there instead of upstairs at Wellcum according to girls.
How many rooms at Sharks now for comparison? (2 rooms downstairs at sharks are not in use, and without the cabins outside).
[QUOTE=Pistons;2385947]But only 14 (+2 that was almost never used) at Marina before they closed. And no hotel rooms to bring girls to there either. I don't know how many guys take girls to the hotel rooms, but I notice some long rooms lasting hours seems to go there instead of upstairs at Wellcum according to girls.[/QUOTE]On August 2018, I much preferred Marina casting with Mila and Sandi rather than Wellcum casting. On August 2019, Andiamo casting was more interesting for me on a Sunday than Wellcum on Ferragosto. Quantity is not quality for me, I prefer only 1 high level beauty. Maybe Wellcum was only exceptional Lena for me? If I can t find Mila, to know if the remembers? But I only go for sexy girls like Mila.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2385948]How many rooms at Sharks now for comparison? (2 rooms downstairs at sharks are not in use, and without the cabins outside).[/QUOTE]Was told sometimes around 250 girls at Sharks on some Fridays, when most of times I can t find only 1 attractive. When I succeed to find, I usually don t wait for long for room, because business is slow, like on Ferragosto when some girls left around 9 pm because guys didn't go with girls. Average looks are not to run after.
Does Andiamo have FKK fully nude days? How many are naked on normal days? How many in the lineup?
Anyone know the price of a taxi from Villach to Welcum?
Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=Zumboit;2388621]Anyone know the price of a taxi from Villach to Wellcum?[/QUOTE]The red Express Taxis have a deal with Wellcum for guests (& girls) - 30 Euro one way between Villach and Wellcum.
Just a summary from my last Wellcum trip:
Not many of my favourites were still around. But Sara, Lorena, Daria, Coco and Malena was there. And also Evelin and Adelina where still around. While Ann (a) and Elisa were just away on vacation the week I was there. And the same goes for Lucia and Cassandra, even though I haven't had rooms with either of those two yet. I have been with everyone else mentioned except Coco, but she seems very fine, and is extremely popular. So it is hard to even notice her before the last 30 min before they close. Which is when she normally dances near the bar. Also Ivete and Elena left a few days before I arrived, and I hope those two girls return too! Plus also Olga left just a few days before. And I hope Barbie and Denisee returns even if what I hear leads me to think this is like a fifty fifty chance with those two.
But this report is is mainly on the new girls.
My favourite of whom were Keira. A petite brunette, 22 years old with nipple piercings and a full chin. She is maybe 1.56-1.57 m. If anyone has been to 5th Element, that's apparently where she came from. A fun girl with lots of energy. Easy repeat, and a new top top girl for me anywhere in FKK land.
Nadia, a blonde (fake ofc) from Bulgaria is another top new girl. With a beauty on the top shelf. Hips and walk reminiscent of Emmanuela and Maggie (now at Artemis. Ex oceans). Which is a trait I'd say is very womanly if going by general ISG forum terms, LOL. But you have to see it to understand what I mean. Room was fine. Got to talk a bit more with her first. I jumped a bit at it here. But chemistry grew later in the lounge after the room, so from experience I know next room would be better. Repeat: yes.
Foxy: a slim Romanian brunette sitting near the cinema. She is a bit shy, but very pretty. A little inexperienced perhaps, but I tried to teach her, and she wants well. I can see her improving. Repeat: yes on the right day.
Tami: Blonde Romanian. Friends with Liv and Keira. I cannot see her working in the next 2 weeks on veniamo. Perhaps she has quit. She seemed fine, but mentions time, and is perhaps a bit below average in the room. Good looks with that dirty blonde style.
Repeat: probably not since she seems to have left, and there are so many other top girls around. I suspect she could have left due to her two closest hunting friends being more popular. Seen this before.
Four other new girls I wrote down as being future targets:
Kasia: Pretty slim brunette (1.60). Should maybe eat a bit more and gain 1 or 2 kg. I have no idea how girls can be underweight at Wellcum with that extraordinarily good buffet.
Ines: Brunette Bulgarian (1.60) from Varna. Very easy to talk to and secure mature attitude. Maybe 27 ish years old I would guess. Also quite pretty.
Violetta: Brunette Romanian (also 1.60 ish). Has worked in Oase / Sharks / Palace. Maybe I have been with her before. There was something familiar. But quite pretty, and hope to see her again.
And finally Liv. I am a bit unsure if she is my type, or if we have the chemistry required. But her body looks great. Current hairstyle was not my cup of tea, but these things change all the time. Has a bit of a dominatrix look. She has also many admirers. Lets see.
Aside from the mentioned girls, nothing spectacular. There were some 4-5 other girls who has been there for a long time I would maybe give a 8 minus on looks if I am nice. But given I have seen them before, I know at least two of them won't even give me their names since they see I go with other girls. The rest is not for me.
All in all, I was worried when seeing the lineup of known pretty girls shrink just before I arrived, but the new girls boosted the lineup back up to at least good levels. In numbers it didn't seem like it was spectacularly many girls in my category this time. But when I add it up now, looking at the names and numbers, about 15 good options was not bad. It could have been better. It has been better. But it has also been worse. All in all, perhaps the largest change in lineup since the first time I visited the club.
I forgot.
Isabela was also gone for a the week I was there.
And I hope Lina too returns even if her schedule looks empty on Veniamo.
And as for Sirioja's Mila: Gone from the lineup. I guess he has to look for new girls.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2389214]And as for Sirioja's Mila: Gone from the lineup. I guess he has to look for new girls.[/QUOTE]On my 4 visits with 2 Ferragosto party on August 2018 and 2019 at Wellcum, even Anji was fire in bed before Barbi and I remember Ina now Georgia, but I didn't find any girl as sexy and interesting as Mila discovered at Marina on August 2018, so even a beautiful club and wonderful Carinthian mountains, but don't worth for me without Mila.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2389653]On my 4 visits with 2 Ferragosto party on August 2018 and 2019 at Wellcum, even Anji was fire in bed before Barbi and I remember Ina now Georgia, but I didn't find any girl as sexy and interesting as Mila discovered at Marina on August 2018, so even a beautiful club and wonderful Carinthian mountains, but don't worth for me without Mila.[/QUOTE]Well, we all get more and more choosy the more we visit clubs. I know I list up 15 girls or so here. And in other clubs I may list up 10 or so. But most days I usually only have 2 or 3 girls on my mind also. And over half the list is a clear no. On my first visits to Artemis 7 or 8 years ago I could probably have gone with 30 girls there. Fair enough the lineup there was objectively stronger back then, but still. With that lineup today, I think I'd end up with about 15 too. Artemis had a strong lineup back in 2012. Wellcum is kind of the new Artemis I feel. But with weaker clicks among certain sofa groups perhaps.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2391039]Well, we all get more and more choosy the more we visit clubs. I know I list up 15 girls or so here. And in other clubs I may list up 10 or so. But most days I usually only have 2 or 3 girls on my mind also. And over half the list is a clear no. On my first visits to Artemis 7 or 8 years ago I could probably have gone with 30 girls there. Fair enough the lineup there was objectively stronger back then, but still. With that lineup today, I think I'd end up with about 15 too. Artemis had a strong lineup back in 2012. Wellcum is kind of the new Artemis I feel. But with weaker clicks among certain sofa groups perhaps.[/QUOTE]Since my start, soon 7 years ago, my choice is I only pay for looks who would attract me in real life, not many, I left many times biggest clubs with full balls, model type Megan saved my day yesterday at Globe when I couldn't find a pretty face behaving like a woman. On my 4 Summer 10 times visiting Wellcum, I didn't find many pretty girls: Anna. It on 2016 but just suck and fuck, same with Tia. It on 2018. When Lena 2017 was really exceptional GFE for me, but Mila is sexier than most of what I saw at Wellcum. Marina casting 2018 and Andiamo on August 2019 were more interesting for me than at Wellcum where I left Ferragosto party after 13 hours with no room. At least, in FKK land, I discovered Romanian woman types, learned to know how they work as women, to adapt to them to make them will to please me back. Enjoyable when they return to me. Really enjoyable how Mila changed behavior in bed and after.
Back at W after too long absence. Great to see all the girls naked (Mon and Thurs) and to catch up with previous 'friends'. I've been at Globe a fair bit recently and interesting to contrast the relaxing atmosphere at W on a Monday. With a 50 ish girl lineup there really is something for almost every taste. Julia still straight gorgeous. Yes, tasteful silicon and doesn't kiss. But such a feast for the eyes and top technique. Daria's new boobs now adjusted to her body and also looking top. Andreea slimmer and still such fun. Irina and Anabel and Bella and Christina and new Foxy also looking great; sample some tomorrow. Having got used to 280/ HR at Globe treated myself to Rose and Raluca, two colleague who are most happy to work together and really please in the room making an ambiance of girlish fun. A good day. Angie / Barbie away and not on Veniamo. It; maybe taking a break.
Restaurant and wellness also noticeably higher quality. The Boss very evident fixing things during the day and manager Christiano also busy. Probably preparing for W's upcoming 6th Birthday Party.
[QUOTE=Dubner32;2391504]Restaurant and wellness also noticeably higher quality. [/QUOTE]What is new here? The food, although at an extremely high level is pretty much unchanged every time I come. And aside from the 90 degree sauna getting fixed early this summer, nothing else has changed in the wellness area? Perhaps they fixed that door between the resting area and outdoors about a year or two ago after that first post I made. It closes easier now maybe. Showers are still a bit slow, so they can still improve on something if they want a flawless score in wellness.
Is Wellcum becoming land of silicon like Globe? I prefer made in flesh tits, most tasty for my old tongue. If girls think they will get better business with silicon, they just mistake.
P, You're right. I meant noticeably higher quality than G. Not a significant change on W standard.
Anabel top this PM; Foxy not so experienced but sweet and so keen to please.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2391883]Is Wellcum becoming land of silicon like Globe? I prefer made in flesh tits, most tasty for my old tongue. If girls think they will get better business with silicon, they just mistake.[/QUOTE]Still plenty of non silicone girls at WC. Mentionned Foxy for example is still natural. Same with Ines for example too. But Keira for example has chiplets installed. Personally I don't care too much.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2392136]Still plenty of non silicone girls at WC. Mentionned Foxy for example is still natural. Same with Ines for example too. But Keira for example has chiplets installed. Personally I don't care too much.[/QUOTE]I really don't like silicon, I much prefer small natural tits.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2392136]Still plenty of non silicone girls at WC. Mentionned Foxy for example is still natural. Same with Ines for example too. But Keira for example has chiplets installed. Personally I don't care too much.[/QUOTE]No wait. My bad. Keira has naturals. I remember it now I studied them carefully to make sure since they look almost too pumped up. But its her natural physique. Now who was it I touched with sillies at wc now again? Probably Sara I think. And maybe Tami. The other 4 girls I went with were naturals. So the ratio is in your favour I guess.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2392605]No wait. My bad. Keira has naturals. I remember it now I studied them carefully to make sure since they look almost too pumped up. But its her natural physique. Now who was it I touched with sillies at wc now again? Probably Sara I think. And maybe Tami. The other 4 girls I went with were naturals. So the ratio is in your favour I guess.[/QUOTE]Mila had small perfect as I like, natural tits, at Marina. Would not be same girl with silicon, like what became Angie unfortunately, she really didn't need when she had perfect firm natural tits.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2393367]Mila had small perfect as I like, natural tits, at Marina. Would not be same girl with silicon, like what became Angie unfortunately, she really didn't need when she had perfect firm natural tits.[/QUOTE]Angie / Barbie's doc did a great job if you ask me. I also loved her increased tanning on that platina blonde hair with her barbie style. The only thing was maybe a tad bit too much Botox. But I'm not complaining. She triggers me for sure. I hope she returns! Her and Elena. And hopefully Soraya is let back in also one day.
Even she was welcoming on this August, but just impossible for me to repeat with silicon Barbi when I went twice with Angie, enjoying on August 2018 .
I am thinking of visiting Wellcum around Christmas / New Year, and am wondering if there will still be many girls around during the holidays.
Alternatively, should I instead visit Vienna (or perhaps other European destinations or specific clubs)?
Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=CuriousExplore;2395273]I am thinking of visiting Wellcum around Christmas / New Year, and am wondering if there will still be many girls around during the holidays.
Alternatively, should I instead visit Vienna (or perhaps other European destinations or specific clubs)?
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]From what I hear, wellcum is bustling during Christmas. Also first week of Jan. Is quite busy. From 2nd week of Jan. It gets a bit slower for the rest of January. Then it picks up again in Feb. But now without any competition from Marina, even January might have maximum of girls (105) in weekends. They are really capped by the license restriction on number of girls these days. Personally I think 105 is a good number. Don't need more than that. And girls only gets in bad mood if there are too many girls competing. Like we've seen in Frankfurt in periods. Chances are you'll only like 10-30% of the girls. But even that takes quite a few rounds to get through. Only one in a thousand of us mongers are as choosy as Sirioja.
I was at Welcumm for the 2nd time, on Thursday July 14th. I took a train from Venice to Villach, and another local from Villach to Arnoldstein. From there it was a 10 taxi to the club. There are also direct trains a few times a day from Udine direct to Arnoldstein, though being slow trains, its about the same as to which route is faster.
The reception was rude, same as my first visit a few years ago. I don't know why they set the tone negatively, bad way to start a day. It was Thursday naked day at the club, which I like. After taking my time I met Rosa, mid 20's, thin, not skinny. After chatting we went to a room where it started badly. I had asked earlier about kissing. "Regalo", she said, meaning gift. Great I thought, but in the room she made clear that kissing was an extra 30 E, regalo for her, not me. So this bummed the vibe, I should have quit. Bad blowjob, hurried session, I was out in less than the half hour.
Next up was Carmen, who I took to be mid 20's, but she was 34!. Very well preserved at 34. Age can be an asset, as her blowjob exquisite and the session unhurried. Would definately repeat.
One I missed because she was always with someone else, was a tallish thin lass, long hair cut in a strange way with curly frizzed bangs above her forhead. Her small tits stuck straight out, a most appealing feature to my eyes and my continuing memories and fantasies. Who?
All in all a good day, having no alternative in this part of Europe, food not as good as everyone writes about, average stew and bad pork filets. Until next time.
Quantity never made quality for me. On Ferragosto party, maybe about 70 girls, but no attractive for me except Georgia ex Ina Velbert I got for 80/60 . I remember History Basel Liestal on mid December 2016 , only 17 girls but 5 real beauties when I arrived at 9 pm, I was disappointed because I could have only 2 of the 5 when closing at 1 am. On Ferragosto, some girls left early because they got no business and on Summers 2018 and 2019, didn't see any natural sexy look like Mila at Marina on August 2018. Average castings for looks.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2395668]From what I hear, wellcum is bustling during Christmas. Also first week of Jan. Is quite busy. From 2nd week of Jan. It gets a bit slower for the rest of January. Then it picks up again in Feb. But now without any competition from Marina, even January might have maximum of girls (105) in weekends. They are really capped by the license restriction on number of girls these days. Personally I think 105 is a good number. Don't need more than that. And girls only gets in bad mood if there are too many girls competing. Like we've seen in Frankfurt in periods. Chances are you'll only like 10-30% of the girls. But even that takes quite a few rounds to get through. Only one in a thousand of us mongers are as choosy as Sirioja.[/QUOTE]Hi Pistons, thank you very much for the info. Sounds like Wellcum is worth visiting late December / early January, so I'll try to work out my schedule for a holiday trip. Will try to give back to the forum with reports in the future. Best.
[QUOTE=Zumboit;2396117]The reception was rude, same as my first visit a few years ago. I don't know why they set the tone negatively, bad way to start a day.[/QUOTE]Depends on which person it is I have noticed. That Italian guy in reception seems to turn more and more into a great pal when he remembers you. Perhaps it is just robotic sentiment before that when he doesn't recognize you. But he is a great guy from what I have come to learn.
Then there is a woman in reception too. I once saw her cry at the end of the day. She can seem a bit stone cold sometimes early ij the day. Maybe it is just her mind that is elsewhere, and its more about her than you.
Then there is that cute brunette who is also taking part in the parties as announcer sometimes. I really like her, and we flirt a bit. She is always in a great mood.
At night on August, a brunette beauty on desk, the prettiest girl in the club. When no room for me on Ferragosto party, no need to repeat with Malena even she was not bad, but not pretty enough to repeat. Couldn't repeat with Barbi ex Angie, but for sure I would have run to the desk brunette.
Does anyone know how to take public transportation from Ljubljana Airport to Wellcum? It appears that this is the closest airport to Wellcum. Many thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=DiverOyster;2406983]Does anyone know how to take public transportation from Ljubljana Airport to Wellcum? It appears that this is the closest airport to Wellcum. Many thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Where are you flying in from DiverOyster?
It'll be more convenient if you were to fly into either Salzburg or Vienna and catch the OBB train to Villach and then connecting onto a S4 local train to Arnoldstein where you can ask for a taxi from one of the hotels near the Arnoldstein train station e.g. Gaushaus Wallner. Taxi fare around 10 euros one way from Arnoldstein to Wellcum. The train fare if you book online in advance (by a few days to a week) on the OBB train website can be as low as 19 euros one way from Vienna to Arnoldstein or 9 euros from Salzburg to Arnoldstein on their saver fare specials.
If you must fly into Ljubljana airport then use this link to find suitable public transport to Arnoldstein and then taxi it Wellcum.
[URL]https://www.rome2rio.com/map/Ljubljana-Airport-LJU/Arnoldstein[/URL]
Hope this helps and report back when you go.
Howie.
DO,
I fly into Wellcum via Ljubljana.
However, do not use public transport but hire car. Comparison sites offer name brand car hire at very good rates (can be 25 Euro / day); the drive is about 1:15 door-to-door. If unfamiliar with Slovenia / Austria recommend you get GPS the first time; road signs in Slovenian can be confusing however, the roads are dual lane / autoroute all except the last two km. You will need to pay the Austrian highway toll (about 9 Euro) and the Slovenia / Austria tunnel fee (about 10 Euro each way).
There are many comfortable simple hotels in the villages near to W and the city of Villach close by or, of course, the W Hotel is OK and you can then take a girl back to your room (50 Euro extra) if that's your preference.
Enjoy W! One of top 5 clubs in Europe (in my opinion).
Klagenfurt Airport is actually the closest one, but finding international flights going there might be though.
[QUOTE=Dubner32;2407184]Enjoy W! One of top 5 clubs in Europe (in my opinion).[/QUOTE]So which are the other 4 clubs? In my book it is the number one club at the moment. But a few German clubs probably still give a better, or just as good value for money. Given their lower price point.
Thank you so much Howie and Dubner32 for your invaluable advice. This is the plan for my Austrian trip.
I will fly into Vienna over the weekend and visit GT Vienna first.
Then, on Monday morning, I will take the train from Vienna to Villach and then to Wellcum. I will visit Wellcum from Monday to Thursday.
Is Andiamo worth a visit at all? If yes, I will take the train from Vienna to Villach on Sunday instead of Monday and visit Andiamo on Sunday and go to Wellcum on Monday.
Then, on Friday morning, I will take a taxi from Wellcum to Ljubljana airport (Wellcum website quotes the taxi price at 79 E) to catch my flight out.
Again, many thanks for all your kind help. Cheers!!
[QUOTE=DiverOyster;2407302]Then, on Monday morning, I will take the train from Vienna to Villach and then to Wellcum.
Then, on Friday morning, I will take a taxi from Wellcum to Ljubljana airport (Wellcum website quotes the taxi price at 79 E) to catch my flight out.[/QUOTE]If you want a taxi between Villach & Wellcum, use the red Express "2020" taxis as they offer a flat 30 Euro fare. Usually find one outside the station.
I've used a Slovenian taxi company Taxi Tuamv ([URL]https://tuamv.com/[/URL]) between LJU and Wellcum. Ended up cheaper than what the club link offered which was more than 79 Euro. You can get a quote online. Very reliable, pleasant drivers.
[QUOTE=ShoesAndSocks;2407329]If you want a taxi between Villach & Wellcum, use the red Express "2020" taxis as they offer a flat 30 Euro fare. Usually find one outside the station.
I've used a Slovenian taxi company Taxi Tuamv ([URL]https://tuamv.com/[/URL]) between LJU and Wellcum. Ended up cheaper than what the club link offered which was more than 79 Euro. You can get a quote online. Very reliable, pleasant drivers.[/QUOTE]Thank you ShoesAndSocks for your advice. I just went on [URL]tuamv.com[/URL] and did a booking test. The online booking price from Wellcum to LJU was quoted at 93 E.
I guess Uber isn't an option for us in this part of Europe.
[QUOTE=DiverOyster;2407336]Thank you ShoesAndSocks for your advice. I just went on [URL]tuamv.com[/URL] and did a booking test. The online booking price from Wellcum to LJU was quoted at 93 E.
I guess Uber isn't an option for us in this part of Europe.[/QUOTE]Sounds about right. I paid 180 Euro for a round trip. I would be interested what the club offer is now. I can't remember what it was but it was more than 79 Euro when I enquired. I have since approached from Villach as Howie suggested. Biggest problem for me with Wellcum, just so remote without a car.
The small Slovenian national airline, Adria Airways, went under a few months ago, so that may affect business from LJU.
No Uber in that region AFAIK.
Wellcum vs Globe: much better facilities & food, drinks a third the price, staying in The Hotel is very decadent fun, rooms much better (mirrors, showers). I recommend Anna, Olivia, Elina.
Globe for me has the better looking girls, and is unique with the public sex.
[QUOTE=DiverOyster;2407302]Thank you so much Howie and Dubner32 for your invaluable advice. This is the plan for my Austrian trip.
I will fly into Vienna over the weekend and visit GT Vienna first.
Then, on Monday morning, I will take the train from Vienna to Villach and then to Wellcum. I will visit Wellcum from Monday to Thursday.
Is Andiamo worth a visit at all? If yes, I will take the train from Vienna to Villach on Sunday instead of Monday and visit Andiamo on Sunday and go to Wellcum on Monday.
Then, on Friday morning, I will take a taxi from Wellcum to Ljubljana airport (Wellcum website quotes the taxi price at 79 E) to catch my flight out.
Again, many thanks for all your kind help. Cheers!![/QUOTE]On last Summer, I enjoyed more Andiamo on Sunday than Wellcum on Ferragosto party on Saturday, with more interesting girls for me at Andiamo even less number, but I m different for what I m looking for, I prefer only 1 attractive girl rather than 80 average looks. 3 were attractive for me at Andiamo when had no room on party at Wellcum. Wellcum casting was good on Summer 2017. Marina was better for me on 2018. Andiamo was better on 2016 and 2019. But Wellcum is a beautiful club, no club can compete for building and garden in Switzerland where Freubad is the best.
[QUOTE=ShoesAndSocks;2407443] I recommend Anna, Olivia, Elina.[/QUOTE]Olivia is not my type even though I know she has fans. A bit too much for me, if you know what I mean. But she has personality, if that's what you are after.
Anna from the website now looks like a different Anna than the one I knew. But the new one looks very pretty too. If it is the same girl, she has a bit of a new look at least, and I can definitely agree on her being fantastic.
Elina doesn't exist from what I know, but maybe you mean Elena? She just returned on the list again a few days I noticed. One of the most beautiful girls in any FKK. But I can say the same about 5-10 other girls too probably also.
I am a bit interested regarding some new names though. Roberta and Sissi. Noticing some hype regarding those, but I haven't seen any pictures yet.
Aside from that, lineup looks solid now for new year, with Elena, Lina (not tried), Lorena, Anna, Elisa, Keira, Nadine, Manuela, Liv (not tried), Denise, Evelin, Foxy, Casandra (not tried) etc around. Coco just disappeared unfortunately after har 2 weeks schedule said she would be there for the beginning of Jan. Up until a few days ago. So don't take the schedules for granted I suppose. But I am considering booking a short Jan. Trip coupled with some skiing.
[QUOTE=DiverOyster;2407302]
I will fly into Vienna over the weekend and visit GT Vienna first.
Then, on Monday morning, I will take the train from Vienna to Villach and then to Wellcum. I will visit Wellcum from Monday to Thursday.
Is Andiamo worth a visit at all? If yes, I will take the train from Vienna to Villach on Sunday instead of Monday and visit Andiamo on Sunday and go to Wellcum on Monday.
[/QUOTE]Hey DiverOyster,
Let me know if you see Natasha when you hit GT Vienna. If she is there, you can't miss her. Blond, 165 cm in heels, slim, natural A/B cups, no tattoos, Romanian, no piercings, affectionate and charming demeanour, gorgeous angelic face. Victoria Secret's model material for sure. She sits at the back couches located near the showers/sauna and sleeping chairs/exit to outdoor garden.
As for Andiamo, I've only been there twice ever so no expert on this club. Once in 2015 and then a return visit in 2016. On both visits, the line ups were strong and I was able to fuck a couple of hotshots. A slim cute blonde Romanian by the name of Donatella (2015) and a slim cute Romanian brunette by the name of Lorena (2016). Back then, they had line ups of 30 to 40 girls of similar quality to GT Vienna but lately in the last couple of years I've been hearing that the quality of the line up has been slowly declining as a result of the business flow being taken over by Wellcum. But given that they are having discounted entry fee of 50 euros (inclusive of 3 alcoholic drinks) on a Sunday, maybe worth a visit to satisfy your curiosity. I'm sure there will be a least one or two stunners there in the mix. Alternatively, you could visit at a later date when you are back in the area. I have a feeling (given your taste for Globe and GT Vienna) that once you visit Wellcum, you will get addicted to this club and revisit Villach frequently.
By the way, the cute brunette Lorena that I fucked in Andiamo is a now a hotshot at Wellcum. Goes by the same club name. Optically very cute and performs well in the room. Only caveat is she does not DFK, so not sure if this is a deal breaker for you. Also if you are in need of public sex then you can fuck in the kino. And in the summer, they have gazebos in the garden where you can choose to fuck privately or publicly. I fucked Angie/Barbie in one of those in September.
When you get to Wellcum, could you do me a solid? There is a profile of a newbie by the name of Guezel. She seems quite exotic and athletic and I can't seem to stop staring at her ass. If you get a visual on her let me know if she is hot or better still if you get to fuck her, give me the low down on her i.e. does she upsell or not, DFK/BBBJ/Digits/DATY/DATO or not, etc? I've plans to return to Wellcum in February so any recon intel on her will be much appreciated.
Here is Quezel's Wellcum website link:
[URL]https://veniamo.it/girl-detail/422[/URL]
I wonder if she looks anything like this latin exotic beauty:
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Anna-Fonseca-4720.html[/URL]
Thanks. Howie.
Lorena needs a new picture on Veniamo.
I had no idea she started all the way back in 2016 at Andiamo. When I first saw her in summer 2017 at Wellcum I felt she was too petite for me, and I suspect 19 years old maybe. Now she has done some fitness as I have mentioned here (I think), and she looks great. And now I rather fear she just doesn't overdo the fitness training instead. She had blonde hair for maybe a year also, and I kinda lean towards feeling she was prettier with blonde than brown hair. But nonetheless, she is absolutely top. Frenching isn't a killer for me though. Just rarely I care, even though it is a small minus I guess.
And yeah, lets hope Guezel look like that other girl.
Haha, most of the time, most of the pictures looks off though. I don't know if it is the edit, or just unnatural poses. But the only recent picture update I feel hit the mark was Keira's, since you can kinda seen her face. But she is even cuter in person.
Lina, Kasia and Foxy are perhaps the closest ones aside from Keira to their Veniamo pictures.
Casandra's picture is also quite accurate, but for obvious reasons again.
Out of curiosity, I just looked at their website for the girl's line up. There are a couple that definitely appeals to me: Milena and Clarissa.
[URL]http://www.andiamo.at/girls-deutsch/[/URL]
Hey Sirioja - Did you see these two during your recent visits?
Howie.
There is a girl named Soraya there at Andiamo. If anyone heads over, I would be very glad if you could ask if she was the former redhead who worked at Wellcum the first half of 2018.
OK, I kinda booked a 4 day trip now next weekend. Please send me a msg if you are at Wellcum then. I will also spend early Sunday at Nassfeld, and one day over the weekend at Ischgl, probably Tuesday, before checking out Circolo Passion as an afterski there. Monday I expect to be tired, but if not, maybe one of the dolomite ski areas if I feel like a superhero.
[QUOTE=Howie;2407706]Hey DiverOyster,
Let me know if you see Natasha when you hit GT Vienna. If she is there, you can't miss her. Blond, 165 cm in heels, slim, natural A/B cups, no tattoos, Romanian, no piercings, affectionate and charming demeanour, gorgeous angelic face. Victoria Secret's model material for sure. She sits at the back couches located near the showers/sauna and sleeping chairs/exit to outdoor garden.
As for Andiamo, I've only been there twice ever so no expert on this club. Once in 2015 and then a return visit in 2016. On both visits, the line ups were strong and I was able to fuck a couple of hotshots. A slim cute blonde Romanian by the name of Donatella (2015) and a slim cute Romanian brunette by the name of Lorena (2016). Back then, they had line ups of 30 to 40 girls of similar quality to GT Vienna but lately in the last couple of years I've been hearing that the quality of the line up has been slowly declining as a result of the business flow being taken over by Wellcum. But given that they are having discounted entry fee of 50 euros (inclusive of 3 alcoholic drinks) on a Sunday, maybe worth a visit to satisfy your curiosity. I'm sure there will be a least one or two stunners there in the mix. Alternatively, you could visit at a later date when you are back in the area. I have a feeling (given your taste for Globe and GT Vienna) that once you visit Wellcum, you will get addicted to this club and revisit Villach frequently.
By the way, the cute brunette Lorena that I fucked in Andiamo is a now a hotshot at Wellcum. Goes by the same club name. Optically very cute and performs well in the room. Only caveat is she does not DFK, so not sure if this is a deal breaker for you. Also if you are in need of public sex then you can fuck in the kino. And in the summer, they have gazebos in the garden where you can choose to fuck privately or publicly. I fucked Angie/Barbie in one of those in September.
When you get to Wellcum, could you do me a solid? There is a profile of a newbie by the name of Guezel. She seems quite exotic and athletic and I can't seem to stop staring at her ass. If you get a visual on her let me know if she is hot or better still if you get to fuck her, give me the low down on her i.e. does she upsell or not, DFK/BBBJ/Digits/DATY/DATO or not, etc? I've plans to return to Wellcum in February so any recon intel on her will be much appreciated.
Here is Quezel's Wellcum website link:
[URL]https://veniamo.it/girl-detail/422[/URL]
I wonder if she looks anything like this latin exotic beauty:
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Anna-Fonseca-4720.html[/URL]
Thanks. Howie.[/QUOTE]Many thanks Howie and other ISG fellows for the information. Although I read that many girls at Wellcum don't DFK, I still want to take an adventure to this club to further my FKK discovery. I will find out whether I will add this club to my regular destination list. When I go there, I will check out all the girls that you mentioned.
I look forward to continuing my FKK pleasure in the year 2020. I am grateful to ISG and to all the FKK girls that have enriched my life in so many ways.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2407655]Elina doesn't exist from what I know, but maybe you mean Elena?[/QUOTE]Sorry, I meant Elisa.
[QUOTE=ShoesAndSocks;2408208]Sorry, I meant Elisa.[/QUOTE]OK, she is great too. Remarkable physique on her even if she has passed 30. When you think of a MILF, Elisa is the #1 at Wellcum. Age just doesn't seem to take any toll. Reminds me of this hot Russian who worked at or still works at Artemis. She is near 40 now, or maybe even 40, but still looks better than 95% of all 20 year olds. Elisa has that same thing going for her, and thus probably have a good 10+ years left. Plus experience.
I have finished my trip from visiting Wellcum and other establishments, and I have not forgotten that I owe the forum (especially Pistons) a report. I will try to have an organized initial report (hopefully) next weekend, particularly thoughts on comparisons with the other places I visited. Please be forewarned that my skills in writing is somewhat lacking, so best not to have high expectations. I also might just start by responding to previous comments, as that seems a bit easier.
[QUOTE=ShoesAndSocks;2407443]Sounds about right. I paid 180 Euro for a round trip. I would be interested what the club offer is now. I can't remember what it was but it was more than 79 Euro when I enquired. I have since approached from Villach as Howie suggested. Biggest problem for me with Wellcum, just so remote without a car.[/QUOTE]The website prices for taxis (E. G, 79 euros) should be taken with a grain of salt at best (and probably should just be completely ignored as false). I called the number listed and was quoted 100 euros for Klagenfurt and 180 euros for Ljubljana for my visit between Christmas and New Year's Eve. I don't know if these were holiday season pricing; perhaps ShoesAndSocks can tell us if he also traveled during some kind of high season of if these are the regular prices. As for taxi prices from Villach or Arnoldstein train stations, was able to confirm that they are 30 and 10 euros respectively.
[QUOTE=CuriousExplore;2410282]I don't know if these were holiday season pricing; perhaps ShoesAndSocks can tell us if he also traveled during some kind of high season of if these are the regular prices.[/QUOTE]I used Tuamv twice to travel LJU-Wellcum-LJU.
In August 2018, round trip cost 181 Euros.
In June 2019, round trip cost 180 Euros.
August 2018 was my first visit to Wellcum. I stayed in The Hotel for 3 nights which was a great way to enjoy the club. When I contacted them to book my room, I enquired on the cost of a taxi to / from LJU. Sorry, I can't remember what the exact quote was, but it prompted me to search on my own and as I went with Tuamv it must have been higher than 180 Euros. Maybe nearer to 200? LJU to Wellcum is about 70 mins, so I guess 90 Euros one way is fair enough.
I actually referred one of the girls to Tuamv and she told me on my next visit she was using them to travel down to Italy to fly home and it was saving her a lot of money.
[QUOTE=ShoesAndSocks;2410627]I actually referred one of the girls to Tuamv and she told me on my next visit she was using them to travel down to Italy to fly home and it was saving her a lot of money.[/QUOTE]I wonder how much girls pay to get in and out of Wellcum with logistics. One girl I know flew out of Klagenfurt through Vienna and then Sofia. Another one took a bus all the way from Timisoara. She would just sleep on the bus. That is 8 hours, but should be quite cheap. But that is probably not much of a solution for most of the girls who come from the Bucharest area: 14 h 15 m.
P,
Many of the girls drive, often with a collega. There is an apartment hotel in Villach where the carpark is nearly always full of RO vehicles. Many also fly into Treviso (near Venezia); not sure what the connection is but there must be a fairly good one.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2410859]I wonder how much girls pay to get in and out of Wellcum with logistics.[/QUOTE]Would be a significant amount for those who fly. One girl was driving back and forth from Constanza.
Girl I spoke with was using Taxi Tuamv as it's priced per taxi with up to 4 passengers, so she'd combine with other girls and split the fare 4 ways.
First time they picked me up from LJU my driver was a very attractive young lady.
We had a lovely chat along the way, and we passed at least one billboard advertising Wellcum.
When we found the turn off into Wellcum, I was sure she had never been there and simply thought The Hotel was just a hotel.
I wondered if the signs there with the girls would make her guess what kind of place it was.
Then, as we pulled up, a group of girls walked out in their typical FKK uniform of dessous and stripper shoes. Turns out they were heading around the back for the photo shoot of the club calendar.
So, I think she figured it out then. Anyway, she simply smiled and said "Have a nice time" and drove away.
Europeans are pretty cool that way.
W Calendar 2020 is now available. Girls featured are named which, IIRC, is an improvement. Party dates are highlighted.
This report on Wellcum is long overdue. My apologies, especially to Pistons, for the delay. Shortly after returning to work, I had fallen ill and had been in less than suitable condition to write. For me, writing is quite a laborious task, and on some days the mere thought of producing this report was sufficiently tiring. Anyway, enough of the excuses, let me actually commence my review of Wellcum.
My first thought on Wellcum is that the location is quite inconvenient. The closest airport is Klagenfurt, and the flight choices were very limited for me. For international hobbists looking to experience FKK clubs for the first time, I would recommend Frankfurt area instead.
As for my impression on the club itself, it has the best facilities of the places I have visited. For comparisons, my experiences were the mega clubs in Frankfurt, a few Swiss clubs (notably Globe), and GT Vienna (thoughts on these I will write about / contribute in the respective forums). The rooms look fairly new, and Wellcum is so far the only club I've been to with attached private shower inside the room. That said, unlike in Globe, I only had one girl offer to shower with me before or after the session. For most sessions, the showering was separate. Also, I've gotten quite used to the large shower areas in other clubs, so it was more a novelty than a necessity for me.
Of the amenities provided, I especially like the onsite hotel and the dining. Staying at the hotel, I could go back to my room and relax, or do some work between sessions instead of having to wait it out sitting in the lounge / open space area. I read that YY had a work area, which probably offered similar advantages, unfortunately I did not visit YY before it was closed down so as to be able to compare. Given Wellcum's remote location, I think the hotel is almost a necessity. I had a double room, and it was quite spacious. The furnishings was of modest quality, comparable to a mid to low end 3 star hotel in my opinion.
Wellcum's food selection was also the best I've seen. It was slightly greater than the Frankfurt mega clubs, and significantly better than GT Vienna and Globe. The taste and quality was also the best I've had in the clubs, presumably in order to please its primarily Italian clientele (That said, I'm not a picky eater and had found food at the Frankfurt mega clubs, at GT Vienna, and even at Globe all to be quite good and satisfying.
The only disappointment for me in terms of facilities was the wellness area. In particular, the steam and sauna rooms were not sufficiently hot. These are, however, minor gripes.
Before moving on to my other observations, it is important to note that I visited Wellcum between Christmas and New Year's Eve, and did not attend the New Year's Eve party. Some of the observations almost certainly do not apply during other times.
At the beginning, right after Christmas, it seemed to me that there were maybe 12-18 girls in the lounge / large sitting area at any given time. Since some girls were probably outside smoking and some were probably busy in the room or putting on makeups, I am guessing there were probably 20-25 girls at the time. Over the next few days, as New Year's Eve Party approached, more girls returned each day. By the time I left, I think there were 20-25 girls in the sitting area at any given time, which probably equates to 30-40 girls total. On the other hand, the place was filled with men, and the women to men ratio was probably 1:4 or higher. The good thing is that most men were often just sitting around, so there were always girls available. And when girls went to the room, the sessions were rarely long (I. E, most appeared to be 30 minutes or less). So even if one had a particular girl in mind, and that specific girl was not available immediately, one could probably find her within an hour (or almost certainly within two hours). The Italian regulars told me that when they visited Wellcum during other times of the year, the women to men ratio is actually the opposite, sometimes with the sitting area full of women and only a handful of men.
And as for the girls themselves, I would categorize the "general characteristics" as similar to those at the Frankfurt mega clubs. By this, I mean to say that Globe is probably unique in its uniformity of slender and fit body type girls who give relatively consistent and high-level service. I think Wellcum, like the Frankfurt mega clubs, offer more diversity in the types of girls, both in physical appearances and behaviors. This should appeal to forum members who prefer more variety or alternative body types.
In terms of service, it varied greatly between the different girls. This time I didn't interview the girls, and I didn't ask for any services or specify any requirements in the room. I was there to basically experience what the girls "normally" offer. Many girls did not kiss, and some girls gave only covered BJ. On the other hand, many girls did BBBJ without asking, and one girl offered anal and CIM. From speaking to the regulars, it sounded like if one were to interview and ask the girls beforehand, one should be able find many girls who kiss, as well as quite a few that does CIM.
Well, that wraps up this report, and a great weight is finally taken off of my mind. Hopefully the report is sufficiently informative. There are probably quite a few things I've forgotten to include here (I'm still not entirely well), so please feel free to ask. I might also add other thoughts as they come to me.
Long report you did there. Just a few notes from the first part:
- YY should reopen next month from what I have heard. It was just closed for 1 year. So the ban is soon to be lifted. I met a girl at Andiamo who said she would return to YY next month.
- It seems you didn't notice the finnish 90 degree sauna at Wellcum. You have to walk outside by the sleeping room, then turn to the left. There are 2 showers there out in the cold, and entry to the finnish 90 degree sauna with views out in the open. Can be nice if there is snow outside.
[QUOTE=Dubner32;2414811]W Calendar 2020 is now available. Girls featured are named which, IIRC, is an improvement. Party dates are highlighted.[/QUOTE]Names and party dates were there last year too. Personally I delt this calendar was a step down compared to 2019. Which in turn was a step down compared to the 2018 calendar. Which was the best one. Maybe next year will improve again.
[QUOTE=CuriousExplore;2415717]
And as for the girls themselves, I would categorize the "general characteristics" as similar to those at the Frankfurt mega clubs. By this, I mean to say that Globe is probably unique in its uniformity of slender and fit body type girls who give relatively consistent and high-level service. I think Wellcum, like the Frankfurt mega clubs, offer more diversity in the types of girls, both in physical appearances and behaviors. This should appeal to forum members who prefer more variety or alternative body types.
In terms of service, it varied greatly between the different girls. This time I didn't interview the girls, and I didn't ask for any services or specify any requirements in the room. I was there to basically experience what the girls "normally" offer. Many girls did not kiss, and some girls gave only covered BJ. On the other hand, many girls did BBBJ without asking, and one girl offered anal and CIM. From speaking to the regulars, it sounded like if one were to interview and ask the girls beforehand, one should be able find many girls who kiss, as well as quite a few that does CIM.
[/QUOTE]Hey CuriousExplore,
Are you able to provide any names of the girls that you sessioned with there and info on their associated service levels?
Thanks. Howie.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2415750]Long report you did there. Just a few notes from the first part:
- YY should reopen next month from what I have heard. It was just closed for 1 year. So the ban is soon to be lifted. I met a girl at Andiamo who said she would return to YY next month.[/QUOTE]Nobody and even NL don't know for YY, but I really wish it will reopen as soon as possible because land of freedom without registration and so close to border and Duss and Koln areas, so will have good game about some girls moving to more free business. Wait and see.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2415750]Long report you did there. Just a few notes from the first part:
- YY should reopen next month from what I have heard. It was just closed for 1 year. So the ban is soon to be lifted. I met a girl at Andiamo who said she would return to YY next month.
- It seems you didn't notice the finnish 90 degree sauna at Wellcum. You have to walk outside by the sleeping room, then turn to the left. There are 2 showers there out in the cold, and entry to the finnish 90 degree sauna with views out in the open. Can be nice if there is snow outside.[/QUOTE]Hi Pistons,
Thank you for the tips. If YY reopens, I will try to find some time this year to visit. As for the Finnish 90 degree sauna, indeed I did not notice or even realize it existed. The next time I visit Wellcum, I will be sure to check it out. Thank you.
[QUOTE=Howie;2415814]Hey CuriousExplore,
Are you able to provide any names of the girls that you sessioned with there and info on their associated service levels?
Thanks. Howie.[/QUOTE]Hi Howie,
Because I saw quite a number of girls in a relatively short amount of time, I unfortunately can't accurately recall all the names of the girls and their corresponding levels of service. And it probably wouldn't be fair to the girls anyway, as I did not make any special requests, so in a sense they all provided the required service. If one were to interview beforehand, I suspect some may actually be willing to provide more.
In general, I went with girls who appeared friendly, and indeed I found them all to be very nice and enjoyed all the sessions. The only exception I made was with Sonja, and I would suggest giving her a try despite her cool appearance. If there is chemistry with her, it can be a surprise in the room.
Sorry I'm not more helpful.
CuriousExplore.
Any recent reports from Wellcum? My last visit was in September 2018. I was very satisfied and I hope the atmosphere in Wellcum remained the same.
I have a funny question. Since the smoking in clubs is banned in Austria, is usage of electronic cigarettes or tobacco heating products (Iqos, Glo) allowed in clubs? Thanks for answering.
[QUOTE=DonDonato;2418166]Any recent reports from Wellcum? My last visit was in September 2018. I was very satisfied and I hope the atmosphere in Wellcum remained the same.
I have a funny question. Since the smoking in clubs is banned in Austria, is usage of electronic cigarettes or tobacco heating products (Iqos, Glo) allowed in clubs? Thanks for answering.[/QUOTE]When I visited Wellcum about a month ago, I did not see any smoking at all inside the club. As far I know, all the smoking happened in the 2 tents outside, and one routinely saw girls and customers go outside in order to smoke. So I suspect that electronic cigarettes are probably not allowed inside the club. Perhaps another member can confirm?
[QUOTE=CuriousExplore;2418580]When I visited Wellcum about a month ago, I did not see any smoking at all inside the club. As far I know, all the smoking happened in the 2 tents outside, and one routinely saw girls and customers go outside in order to smoke. So I suspect that electronic cigarettes are probably not allowed inside the club. Perhaps another member can confirm?[/QUOTE]I am not a smoker, but as I know, new rules about smoking are valid for e-cigarettes also. During last trips to Wellcum between November and January I didn't notice any kind of smoking inside the club.
Thanks guys for the answer. I'm not a smoker but I like to light up few in saunaclub. I just like it. Atmosphere is good, naked bodies, coffee, few glasses of wine and a cigarette.
Any good new girls in club? Are Miriam and Daria still in the house? I'll be there tommorow.
[QUOTE=Itponaus;2418700]I am not a smoker, but as I know, new rules about smoking are valid for e-cigarettes also. During last trips to Wellcum between November and January I didn't notice any kind of smoking inside the club.[/QUOTE]Right now any kind of smoking is forbidden inside any club, restaurant or bar. Outside tents which seem a great solution are not allowed either by the way. I predict they are soon going to build something outside that obeys the law sooner or later. Probably soon.
ID like to visit the Wellcum club in March for a Thursday all day long. I will stay for the night at the hotel next to the club.
How is the line up for a Thursday? Are there any wow girls? Any Germans, Czech blue eyed beauties?
Its OK if I enter the club on noon or should I come later?
I would appreciate any recommendations. Thanks.
[QUOTE=DonDonato;2418767]Thanks guys for the answer. I'm not a smoker but I like to light up few in saunaclub. I just like it. Atmosphere is good, naked bodies, coffee, few glasses of wine and a cigarette.
Any good new girls in club? Are Miriam and Daria still in the house? I'll be there tommorow.[/QUOTE]There is a lineup list on Veniamo. It it is fairly accurate aside from sometimes the girls can go on vacation or get sick a bit random. Daria was away all of January from what I know, but the site says she will return on Feb. 12th.
Hi all!
I will be in Pamhagen / Burgenland for a business trip next month. Wonder if anyone knows some escort service near by, since I don't have car to drive to Vienna.
Would appreciate any help.
Thanks in advance!
[QUOTE=Kostass;2419306]ID like to visit the Wellcum club in March for a Thursday all day long. I will stay for the night at the hotel next to the club.[/QUOTE]Can we start a new thread for Wellcum. They are important enough to pay to advertise on this site so they deserve it?
What's the easiest way to get to Babylon Klagenfurt (without a car)?
[QUOTE=LeyenLouvain;2423375]Can we start a new thread for Wellcum. They are important enough to pay to advertise on this site so they deserve it?[/QUOTE]Yes, should be for a club of this size and quality.
[QUOTE=ShoesAndSocks;2424338]Yes, should be for a club of this size and quality.[/QUOTE]Perhaps. But almost useless also unless the number of updates goes up. Maybe a new thread will help.
English speakers are too afraid to be blunt I fear. Just reading the Italian forums, almost makes me think the fall of the roman empire, and the beginning of the anglo world order was a real pity.
I've just seen reports northern Italy is experiencing an outbreak of coronavirus.
Wonder what impact this will have short to medium term on Wellcum, as most of their clientele would come from that region?
[QUOTE=Kostass;2419306]ID like to visit the Wellcum club in March for a Thursday all day long. I will stay for the night at the hotel next to the club.
How is the line up for a Thursday? Are there any wow girls? Any Germans, Czech blue eyed beauties?
Its OK if I enter the club on noon or should I come later?
I would appreciate any recommendations. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Staying at The Hotel is really cool. At the end of the night, just pay for your drinks (if any) and head up to your room.
Thursday should be a busier day, and it's FKK (naked).
No reason not to enter at noon. Always some girls present, but most seem to start from 4 pm onwards.
The restaurant serves lunch until 4 pm, then shuts down and re-opens at 6 pm for dinner. Great food IMO.
Talked to a fav at W today. Some concern over Corona virus in Italy reducing client numbers. But confident Austrian authorities taking strong precautions when necessary.
Said if fewer clients would go to Egypt to top up her tan.
[QUOTE=ShoesAndSocks;2427049]I've just seen reports northern Italy is experiencing an outbreak of coronavirus.
Wonder what impact this will have short to medium term on Wellcum, as most of their clientele would come from that region?[/QUOTE]So far, the outbreak and quaratine areas are very limited to few rural areas in Lombardy and Venetia. The closest region to the Austrian border, and then to Wellcum has no positive cases registered yet.
[QUOTE=LeyenLouvain;2423375]Can we start a new thread for Wellcum. They are important enough to pay to advertise on this site so they deserve it?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Pistons;2424340]Perhaps. But almost useless also unless the number of updates goes up. Maybe a new thread will help.
English speakers are too afraid to be blunt I fear. Just reading the Italian forums, almost makes me think the fall of the roman empire, and the beginning of the anglo world order was a real pity.[/QUOTE]I had always wondered indeed why no separate threads exist for Wellcum and for FKK Andiamo on ISG, as they do exist for the FKKs in the German forums.
In Italian local forums there are threads with more than 1600 pages for each of them. Then, I can see very well the doubt whether to put them in the Italian or Austrian forums in ISG, since I guess that 90% of clientele comes from Italy.
[QUOTE=PunterWanderer;2427290]So far, the outbreak and quaratine areas are very limited to few rural areas in Lombardy and Venetia. The closest region to the Austrian border, and then to Wellcum has no positive cases registered yet.[/QUOTE]It is impossible to contain it though. Will be a global pandemic within a month. Mark my words! It has a 24 day incubation period, and in several cases there are no signs of infection. Two thirds of the global human population will probably get it sooner or later.
Today there are new cases both in Croatia (Zagreb) and Austria (Tirol) also.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2427638]It is impossible to contain it though. Will be a global pandemic within a month. Mark my words! It has a 24 day incubation period, and in several cases there are no signs of infection. Two thirds of the global human population will probably get it sooner or later.
Today there are new cases both in Croatia (Zagreb) and Austria (Tirol) also.[/QUOTE]I completely agree with you. My guess is that the virus has already crossed Italian borders. Moreover, it is asymptomatic, which means that it spreads without signs if infection, as you pointed out.
Maybe in the next few days public authorities will restrict freedom of movement. Which sucks, as I have an hectic month full of business trips (and consequently girls to fuck throughout Europe).
Nobody knows the true nature of Coronavirus or its spread. If find this interesting. The 'seen-so-far' effect of actually getting the virus. The site contains a whole lot more numerical data. Obviously, treat all internet with caution however, at least this site avoids 'journalistic excess'. ISG Mods, not sure if I am allowed to enter a website name here but, in my opinion, there is no foul in mentioning a health information site. (YMMV) [URL]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/[/URL].
Age date rate.
80+ years old 14.8%.
70-79 years old 8. 0%.
60-69 years old 3. 6%.
50-59 years old 1. 3%.
40-49 years old 0. 4%.
30-39 years old 0. 2%.
20-29 years old 0. 2%.
10-19 years old 0. 2%.
0-9 years old no fatalities.
In short, so far, under age 40,1 in 500 people getting the virus dies from it. I would guess that 1 probably has compromised health already. In future, such people would likely be super-prudent.
Getting older the odds increase, perhaps reflecting the likelihood of older people already having compromised health.
[QUOTE=PunterWanderer;2427731]Maybe in the next few days public authorities will restrict freedom of movement. Which sucks, as I have an hectic month full of business trips (and consequently girls to fuck throughout Europe).[/QUOTE]I came home from Europe about 10 days ago. Saw a few more people in Zurich airport wearing face masks, and many more than usual on transit through Bangkok airport. Half my Thai Airways crews were wearing face masks (just the simple flimsy ones, some over the nose, some below - not convinced they do anything other than increase the paranoia). Glad to be home, not so much because of the disease itself, more from the chaos surrounding it.
When fear grips, things get crazy very quickly. Where I live, people are steering clear of Chinese restaurants just because of this! Strange that we live in a modern world with so much information literally at our fingertips, yet we seem no less fearful and irrational than back in the old days when news like this would spread by rumour and hearsay.
This posted today on the Wellcum website (Italian version only?) .
[I]Important information: update of 26/02/2020.
With regard to the Coronavirus problem, the Wellcum club is in compliance with the Austrian regulations which at this time have not limited the activities in Carinthia. The borders are open, even the railway lines are normally functioning.
Therefore: WE ARE REGULARLY OPEN, WITHOUT LIMITATIONS.[/I]
Headlines from the Carinthia region section of Kleine Zeitung newspaper ...
[i]Corona precautions in Villach | Authorities in fear of infected sex tourists
The corona virus is causing great concern in Villach. Protective masks are sold out in pharmacies; meetings with partner cities in Italy are canceled in the Arnoldstein municipality. There is uncertainty about brothels[/I]
Not looking good.
LOL at the headlines!
I'll bet anyone here 50 euro that Carinthia will get corona cases within 2 weeks. Any takers?
Also, is there any betting sites regarding this outbreak?
[QUOTE=Pistons;2428212]LOL at the headlines!
I'll bet anyone here 50 euro that Carinthia will get corona cases within 2 weeks. Any takers?
Also, is there any betting sites regarding this outbreak?[/QUOTE]Search info about carintian FKK from Italian site it s useless, because devoted only to all good madam.
For me I bet on one week.
Better for you casacarintia in feldkirchen now the entrance for Italian is forbidden, but is a secret don t tell.
But they have just fix the price at 155.
The old price set at 130.
I think the numbers are massively underreported all around the world. In countries like China and Iran, the regimes are hiding the real numbers, both from deaths and affected. And in Italy too, the number of cases are much much larger also. You realize that when you hear about Germans or Scandinavians returning from northern Italy, just how little it took them to get affected. It must be widespread already. Especially in the Lombard region. Probably tens of thousands or more.
I'm planning a Wellcum visit but I'm in doubts as is too close Italy. And visited mostly by Italian guys. I don't know about the line up. Does this virus affects the line up in any way?
I don't know what to do. Any advise?
I'm not afraid of the virus as the carantine if any problem appears.
[QUOTE=Kostass;2430614]I'm planning a Wellcum visit but I'm in doubts as is too close Italy. And visited mostly by Italian guys. I don't know about the line up. Does this virus affects the line up in any way?
I don't know what to do. Any advise?
I'm not afraid of the virus as the carantine if any problem appears.[/QUOTE]If you really want to go, go now.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2428212]
Also, is there any betting sites regarding this outbreak?[/QUOTE][URL]https://betting.betfair.com/horse-racing/cheltenham/will-cheltenham-go-ahead-betfair-exchange-offers-market-amid-coronavirus-fears-260220-51.html[/URL]
Sorry for off topic.
[QUOTE=Kostass;2430614]I'm planning a Wellcum visit but I'm in doubts as is too close Italy. And visited mostly by Italian guys. I don't know about the line up. Does this virus affects the line up in any way?
I don't know what to do. Any advise?
I'm not afraid of the virus as the carantine if any problem appears.[/QUOTE]If you were lucky you could get Quarantined in the club!!
Wellcum website announcing club will be closed from 12 Mar until 1 May. (Subject to change according to Corona outbreak).
For those of you who don't already know I want to inform you that Wellcum is going to be closed from Thursday this week until May 1. That is their plan and this is what is announced on the Wellcum website and Facebook page too.
[QUOTE=Tropea317;2430868]If you really want to go, go now.[/QUOTE]What a fuck.
I bought a new car for this FKK.
In 2018 back problem.
In 2019 my old má broken leg.
In 2020 coronavirus.
What a fuck bro.
Hi there, Massimo and all. I just read that Babylon in Klagenfurt is "temporarily closed for renovations". Is this really true or a sudden closure due to recent covid-19 decisions (borders closed between IT and AT), so this just an excuse to motivate the stop of the activities?
If renovations have been announced for some time instead, and real, it'd be cool to know what they are all about. Thanks.
Time to get through that awfully long list of Netflix shows that has been piling up for the past 10 years I suppose.
[QUOTE=AdamCki;2433017]Hi there, Massimo and all. I just read that Babylon in Klagenfurt is "temporarily closed for renovations". Is this really true or a sudden closure due to recent covid-19 decisions (borders closed between IT and AT), so this just an excuse to motivate the stop of the activities?
If renovations have been announced for some time instead, and real, it'd be cool to know what they are all about. Thanks.[/QUOTE]It is very likely that it is because of the current events surrounding Corona. Without Italians those brothels have ground to work on. On top of that it is very likely that across all of Austria brothels will soon shut down until further notice what we all hope is only going to be for a few weeks. It is the logical consequence of what we see happen in Austria every day.
Today, so far, all brothels are still legally open.
[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2433376]It is very likely that it is because of the current events surrounding Corona. Without Italians those brothels have ground to work on. On top of that it is very likely that across all of Austria brothels will soon shut down until further notice what we all hope is only going to be for a few weeks. It is the logical consequence of what we see happen in Austria every day.
Today, so far, all brothels are still legally open.[/QUOTE]Except for the only brothel that matter. Aside from GT Vienna.
When that is said, Tirol probably underreports cases by a factor of 30. So it is just a matter of days before the entire country is shut down in Austria also. I'll give it maximum 1 week!
[QUOTE=Pistons;2433643]Except for the only brothel that matter. Aside from GT Vienna.
[/QUOTE]Until yesterday there were no legal grounds for closure but Wellcum decided to close down anyway because of the lack of Italians. On Monday all night bars will close down and soon thereafter also the rest for the time being, I predict.
It appears that.
"The the Austrian chancellor, health minister and home secretary held a press conference to confirm that, among other measures, all indoor events with more than 100 people, will be closed / cancelled."
Also, separately, apparently, respective governments have decided that all ski resorts in Austria and Swiss will be closed from this weekend; bringing their ski seasons to an early close.
So, it seems that any large clubs in Austria will be closed until the government lifts this measure. Perhaps similar will follow in CH.
(I am quoting UK Daily Telegraph newspaper; can not confirm or deny myself; does anybody have hard info on this?
Both Peter owned Babylon (Wien and Klagenfurt) are closed. No news on Babylon Salzburg or the two Casabianca (Innsbruck and Hallein), their site looks (slow) business as usual.
[QUOTE=AdamCki;2433919]Both Peter owned Babylon (Wien and Klagenfurt) are closed. No news on Babylon Salzburg or the two Casabianca (Innsbruck and Hallein), their site looks (slow) business as usual.[/QUOTE]All clubs will close because they have to. Whatever info there is or isn't on their websites, they will close their clubs. Also with closed borders, severe travel restrictions in Italy and Germany which border those cities, the clubs will have no clients at all. They have to close. If I am wrong about that, sorry but nothing indicates that they would be allowed to keep their clubs open.
I went to carinzia from April 2014.
I hope they finish the roadwork that pestered me for 6 years.
But probably they stop the roadwork.
Because now no people pay the toll.
The highway are empty.
They restart when people come back.
[QUOTE=Tropea317;2439657]I went to carinzia from April 2014.
I hope they finish the roadwork that pestered me for 6 years.
But probably they stop the roadwork.
Because now no people pay the toll.
The highway are empty.
They restart when people come back.[/QUOTE]Is there good spot to spend near the highways? Like any good cafe or any club where we can go and try our luck in mongering? I hope now it's 2020 so the situation may have improved by now.
W are still claiming open 1 May. Hmmm.
They are also doing extra pics / vids of their girls to keep interest 'up'.
[QUOTE=Dubner32;2441597]W are still claiming open 1 May. Hmmm.
They are also doing extra pics / vids of their girls to keep interest 'up'.[/QUOTE]Great job by them and good for them but those pictures seem to have been made for the calendar shoot a long time ago. It is impossible for me to believe that they would do them now. This would violate most laws that are in place now concerning Covid 19 and, also, most ladies will be in their homes and there they'll stay in heavy quarantine for a while.
First of May will not be the day when clubs like that are allowed to open again, in all likelihood. I think, June is more realistic or even July. Please keep in mind that thermas, which basically are sexless saunaclubs, will open last. This is what we already know and was announced in one of the latest press conferences. The smaller a venue, the bigger the chances of re-opening fast.
[QUOTE=Vicky98;2441564]Is there good spot to spend near the highways? Like any good cafe or any club where we can go and try our luck in mongering? I hope now it's 2020 so the situation may have improved by now.[/QUOTE]Wellcum.
You can spot the Wellcum from the highway.
I m old I prefer casa carintia in feldkirchen and I want to go at casa iuvavum in leondig, but the first place to go is Wellcum.
At Willach have andiamo industrialstrasse.
Austria in summer is so beautiful and full of story every time.
I prefer Hungarian girls than Romanian.
[QUOTE=Tropea317;2441959]Wellcum.
You can spot the Wellcum from the highway.
I m old I prefer casa carintia in feldkirchen and I want to go at casa iuvavum in leondig, but the first place to go is Wellcum.
At Willach have andiamo industrialstrasse.
Austria in summer is so beautiful and full of story every time.
I prefer Hungarian girls than Romanian.[/QUOTE]Old is gold mate. BTW I too find Hungarian girls open to many things. They have nice figure too, specially their butt area is so nice.
[QUOTE=Dubner32;2441597]W are still claiming open 1 May. Hmmm.[/QUOTE]Now it's just "Club on vacation ... see you soon".
As an overseas visitor, I feel it will be a very long time before I ever visit again.
It's a wonderful, well-run club, and I really feel for the owners and the girls, but just too many uncertainties and risks regarding international travel to be even thinking about it.
[QUOTE=ShoesAndSocks;2443072]Now it's just "Club on vacation ... see you soon".
[/QUOTE]Of course it is. They don't know when things will be back to normal. Nobody does and who ever claims to know is full of it and that is the bottomline.
Italian site has note from W staff saying that they are aiming for 1 July reopening.
Under current Austrian restrictions closed til end June.
Preparing in hope.
Also rumour that their reopening lineup maybe limited to 50 girls.
[QUOTE=Dubner32;2456158]Italian site has note from W staff saying that they are aiming for 1 July reopening.
Under current Austrian restrictions closed til end June.
Preparing in hope.
Also rumour that their reopening lineup maybe limited to 50 girls.[/QUOTE]50 girls is fine if they have the right ones. However, in so many FKK's it seems as if it is rather random. So I suppose this is a bad sign. But maybe some will spread over into Andiamo as well unless they make the first cut at WC. Andiamo should have plenty of room at least. There have never been more than 20 girls there on my few visits, and I bet they could take in at least 40.
50 girls are more than enough, I m not able to go with 50 girls, but I much prefer to have only 1 exceptional Lena 2017, or 1 interesting Mila at Marina 2018 and repeat, rather than many girls on 2019, but really no wow except Georgia ex Ina Velbert, and many girls with no business on Ferragosto party. More interesting casting on Sunday at Andiamo for me, when no room on Saturday at Wellcum. Quantity never made quality for me, I remember being told more than 200 girls at Sharks on end of 2016 and I was not even able to find only one attractive, unfortunately.
Wellcum and Andiamo will really need Italy for business, when Italians can t really move yet.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2457066]50 girls is fine if they have the right ones. However, in so many FKK's it seems as if it is rather random. So I suppose this is a bad sign. But maybe some will spread over into Andiamo as well unless they make the first cut at WC. Andiamo should have plenty of room at least. There have never been more than 20 girls there on my few visits, and I bet they could take in at least 40.[/QUOTE]Before Wellcum existed Andiamo had 100+ girls in the summer.
The rumours I am hearing suggest that there may be a general idea or limit at about 50% total normal personnel. (Girls, clients and staff.) Which means many girls without a place at their usual club. Which means many trying to find a new place at a club that has been under capacity.
I talked to one girl, previously worked Austria, getting pro photos done to apply to CH.
[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2457189]Before Wellcum existed Andiamo had 100+ girls in the summer.[/QUOTE]I only discovered Andiamo on 2016, but better for me than Wellcum on 2016 and 2019, even less girls. Quantity don t make quality for me.
[QUOTE=Dubner32;2457190]The rumours I am hearing suggest that there may be a general idea or limit at about 50% total normal personnel. (Girls, clients and staff.) Which means many girls without a place at their usual club. Which means many trying to find a new place at a club that has been under capacity.
I talked to one girl, previously worked Austria, getting pro photos done to apply to CH.[/QUOTE]Exactly, so that's why I said 40 at Andiamo. If their cap is at 100, then great. 50 then! .
(50% of WCs 105 cap is 52 by the way).
50 in both clubs should be about right. Although I'd prefer them all to be in WC due to better food, saunas, and especially for the summer, the outdoors. But at least Andiamo still has a cinema. Like what the fuck was WC thinking when they removed theirs the same way Sharks did. So useless. Are people shy?
[QUOTE=Pistons;2457273]But at least Andiamo still has a cinema. Like what the fuck was WC thinking when they removed theirs the same way Sharks did. So useless. Are people shy?[/QUOTE]No more kino at Wellcum? What's there now?
Not surprised as no-one was in there whenever I visited, so seen as wasted space I guess. Maybe a cultural thing with Italians.
[QUOTE=ShoesAndSocks;2457318]No more kino at Wellcum? What's there now?
Not surprised as no-one was in there whenever I visited, so seen as wasted space I guess. Maybe a cultural thing with Italians.[/QUOTE]Same as at sharks. They made these small silly rooms instead.
[QUOTE=Dubner32;2457190]The rumours I am hearing suggest that there may be a general idea or limit at about 50% total normal personnel. (Girls, clients and staff.) Which means many girls without a place at their usual club. Which means many trying to find a new place at a club that has been under capacity.
I talked to one girl, previously worked Austria, getting pro photos done to apply to CH.[/QUOTE]When Wellcum nearly killed Andiamo, this would be good for Andiamo which is more interesting on average for me. Let s see what will happen. Around 50 girls in both would be interesting.
Wellcum website now announcing 1 July opening.
[QUOTE=Dubner32;2458020]Wellcum website now announcing 1 July opening.[/QUOTE]They should wait for Italians, or will be empty after first week end. Everything is written in Italian, not German, there. Wish Andiamo will also reopen before I go to Zoncolan and Gentile, I like Andiamo. I miss beautiful Marina Slovenia and super sexy Mila. Ro.
I see internet reports that Ital. Aust border will reopen 16 June. ([URL]www.thelocal.it[/URL]).
So, all clients ready for W on 1 July.
Prevedo io una festa di salsiccia!
[QUOTE=Dubner32;2458290]I see internet reports that Ital. Aust border will reopen 16 June. ([URL]www.thelocal.it[/URL]).
So, all clients ready for W on 1 July.
Prevedo io una festa di salsiccia![/QUOTE]But can Italians move through Italy? But Tarvisio opening would be good for Carinthia business.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2457357]Same as at sharks. They made these small silly rooms instead.[/QUOTE]No window where was Wellcum Kino, I will never go to these rooms. I remember Lena waiting for a good room for me on Ferragosto party Saturday evening, other girls telling her: this is your turn, but waiting for nearly 30 mn, exceptional Lena. Ro, super GFE, giving me pillow to put under her ass and opening her legs, smiling: I wait for You, work for me. 6 1 hour rooms in 4 days and I should have 2 more, when if I didn't discover her on late evening on Thursday, after 2 quite average rooms with red hair Daria with no silicon on August 2017 and her pretty brunette friend, I would not have returned but tried again Andiamo I preferred on 2016.
[QUOTE=Dubner32;2458290]So, all clients ready for W on 1 July.[/QUOTE]Assuming there will be a restriction on numbers, it could be to Wellcum's advantage that it is summer and they have that very large outdoor area that could count as club area and hence allow a fair few guys & girls.
[QUOTE=ShoesAndSocks;2457318]No more kino at Wellcum? What's there now?
Not surprised as no-one was in there whenever I visited, so seen as wasted space I guess. Maybe a cultural thing with Italians.[/QUOTE]It was quite a bit in use actually. But irregularly perhaps. Quite often I saw all the bed / seating there taken also. And sometimes all empty too.
Just to be clear, I am a client. This post is written for information, not advertising Wellcum. Even if it is one of my favourite clubs.
This is Gtranslate of a post by club manager on an Italian site.
"We make the list of girls based on the availability they give us. Many are available only from August or even September. We remind everyone that in the notorious weekend of February 22 when chaos broke out in Italy, about 70 girls literally ran away without caring about the club. Some went to work in Germany or Vienna because they didn't want the Italians. Many stayed and helped us, some came back to support us and we continued with about 65 girls until closing. So please don't always think badly, someone deserves to be able to come back because she has not only thought about herself but also about the good of the club and indeed many of them have literally said "we have no problems with the Italians and we are not going anywhere because we want to be here with you and with them". The list is constantly updated to date we are 59 girls and They are the following:
So, good news, they intend to open with 59+ girls, not 50 like I rumored earlier. My mistake.
On beginning of March, many girls also left GT in Germany and a nearly 70 yo, silicon Italian, came back there for business. I wish the best to Wellcum which is a very beautiful club with good foods and wonderful view on Carinthian beauties, even I find Andiamo a bit more interesting, but I don t trust Veniamo list, but I know WGs are Alzheimer and will love Italian money on 1 July and many girls will have to find new place to work when large brothels land Germany is still closed, many WGs will move for business, because underground escorting should not pay much. I think Summer will be interesting finding some girls elsewhere.
Dubner32,
W can start but is under strict control by Austrian nhs, that don t want Italians covid from Lombardia neither Romanians virus from Brasov.
I forecast a start then for end of July another closure, when perverts it and sucker to spread again virus in villach.
They have to protect blonde young Austrian from virus.
[QUOTE=Dubner32;2459358]
So, good news, they intend to open with 59+ girls, not 50 like I rumored earlier. My mistake.[/QUOTE]Very unlikely that they will open with 59 girls or more. The Girls need clearance from the doctor and this is not that easy to get unless you start organising yourself well ahead. Which most ladies are not very proficient in.
And also there will be no need for that many girls in the beginning because also Wellcum, in all its glory, must assess first how business post-Corona will be.
[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2459455]Very unlikely that they will open with 59 girls or more. The Girls need clearance from the doctor and this is not that easy to get unless you start organising yourself well ahead. Which most ladies are not very proficient in.
And also there will be no need for that many girls in the beginning because also Wellcum, in all its glory, must assess first how business post-Corona will be.[/QUOTE]If w male big numbers get covid.
Less numbers not enough income.
Maybe Austrian nhs want to make a test.
Check when at the opening there are IT plus RO only or also Austrian.
From what I am reading, the covid-19 they have in Lombardia right now has mutated away from the worst type. So it might even be good for immunity buildup to get that version of the virus!
Haven't read too much about the Brasov mutation however.
[QUOTE=Tropea317;2459439]Dubner32,
W can start but is under strict control by Austrian nhs, that don t want Italians covid from Lombardia neither Romanians virus from Brasov.
I forecast a start then for end of July another closure, when perverts it and sucker to spread again virus in villach.
They have to protect blonde young Austrian from virus.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104730/covid-19-infections-by-region-romania/[/URL]
Seems Suceava and Bucharest are the 2 worst hit regions. Quite a bit ahead of Brasov on 3rd. Although I suspect divided on population, Brasov is ahead of Bucharest at least.
I remain optimistic.
My impression is that W is a well run set up and that the owner is prepared to invest in his business.
I see no possibility that W and the girls will not comply with all appropriate Austrian health rules and requirements.
As I understand it, all borders close to W will be open by 1 July, perhaps with some minor restrictions.
I would be surprised if the majority of the girls can not, perhaps with W assistance, organise their arrival such that their personal medical checks are up to date by the due date. They seem to have managed it before, albeit certainly not in these circumstances. W have deliberately planned to open with girls who have W experience and thus know their way locally.
Tropea317, Sir, you forecast the virus resurging by end July. You may be right. I'm sure we all hope you're wrong.
[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2459455]Very unlikely that they will open with 59 girls or more. The Girls need clearance from the doctor and this is not that easy to get unless you start organising yourself well ahead. Which most ladies are not very proficient in.
And also there will be no need for that many girls in the beginning because also Wellcum, in all its glory, must assess first how business post-Corona will be.[/QUOTE]Swiss clubs managed, with more than 40 girls at Globe, Amesia and Freubad. Even 55 at Globe. Austrian clubs can also manage, I don t know GT, but Wellcum seem strong when we see what they became, nearly killing Andiamo, and I think number 1 in Austria, thanks to Italians.
Ok I modify my attestation.
Better let the club for fit.
Old depressed punters like me better wait.
My problem: in up and down of the stock I make 10 000€ that have to put on the other that already have.
Your problem: not enough money.
W chicks want big money for 70€ you get only a lousy fuck.
And that is a fact.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2459937]Swiss clubs managed, with more than 40 girls at Globe, Amesia and Freubad. Even 55 at Globe. Austrian clubs can also manage, I don t know GT, but Wellcum seem strong when we see what they became, nearly killing Andiamo, and I think number 1 in Austria, thanks to Italians.[/QUOTE]I don't think it is a valid comparison and I know that all girls need appointments to get the stamp into their health book in Austria. Please always remember that Austria is neither Switzerland nor is it Germany or any other country.
That being said, I am the last person to underestimate Wellcum, though. They, by all means, have all it takes to get thing running on their end again. But it is not likely that 59 girls will have legal working papers. That is what I am saying. If they will against all odds, all the more credit to them.
[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2460075]I don't think it is a valid comparison and I know that all girls need appointments to get the stamp into their health book in Austria. Please always remember that Austria is neither Switzerland nor is it Germany or any other country.
That being said, I am the last person to underestimate Wellcum, though. They, by all means, have all it takes to get thing running on their end again. But it is not likely that 59 girls will have legal working papers. That is what I am saying. If they will against all odds, all the more credit to them.[/QUOTE]Of course you know better than me, but can't powerful Wellcum ask a doctor to come to the club to test girls? I thought girls were already tested before virus, who test them?
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2460077]Of course you know better than me, but can't powerful Wellcum ask a doctor to come to the club to test girls? I thought girls were already tested before virus, who test them?[/QUOTE]There is a specialised doctor's office that does basically nothing else than test sexworkers and issues them health books. Every girl who wants to start wrorking on the first of July needs to have the stamp in her book to work and for that she needs to make an appointment. This is what it is like in Vienna and most likey all over Austria. New girls will have a waiting period of 5-10 day as far as I heard.
[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2460187]There is a specialised doctor's office that does basically nothing else than test sexworkers and issues them health books. Every girl who wants to start wrorking on the first of July needs to have the stamp in her book to work and for that she needs to make an appointment. This is what it is like in Vienna and most likey all over Austria. New girls will have a waiting period of 5-10 day as far as I heard.[/QUOTE]This is one thing Austria does well. In my opinion there should be mandatory STD checks for all WGs in Switzerland and Germany too.
[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2460187]There is a specialised doctor's office that does basically nothing else than test sexworkers and issues them health books. Every girl who wants to start wrorking on the first of July needs to have the stamp in her book to work and for that she needs to make an appointment. This is what it is like in Vienna and most likey all over Austria. New girls will have a waiting period of 5-10 day as far as I heard.[/QUOTE]Normal, graduated doctor can t do such tests at Wellcum? When Wellcum is in middle of nowhere, many girls sleeping there.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2460237]Normal, graduated doctor can t do such tests at Wellcum? When Wellcum is in middle of nowhere, many girls sleeping there.[/QUOTE]Don't think so.
[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2460485]Don't think so.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your interesting information about Austria which is a so beautiful country with great history. A cute Polish made me smile telling me she chose name Sissi at GT Vienna. Only default for me is a bit far from Paris, more than 1200 kms, but good when I m on holidays climbing in Frioul and cheap gas in Austria, land of ski, religion there, so I can only feel at home.
[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2460187]There is a specialised doctor's office that does basically nothing else than test sexworkers and issues them health books. Every girl who wants to start wrorking on the first of July needs to have the stamp in her book to work and for that she needs to make an appointment. This is what it is like in Vienna and most likey all over Austria. New girls will have a waiting period of 5-10 day as far as I heard.[/QUOTE]Is this specialized doctor you by any chance?
[QUOTE=Pistons;2460652]Is this specialized doctor you by any chance?[/QUOTE]It's not one individual doctor and I am pretty sure they don't share their experiences on ISG or other mongering boards. And I am pretty surprised that this is not common knowledge already. I personally have mentioned it numerous times already in the past.
And your question is weird but probably in good fun only?
[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2460741]It's not one individual doctor and I am pretty sure they don't share their experiences on ISG or other mongering boards. And I am pretty surprised that this is not common knowledge already. I personally have mentioned it numerous times already in the past.
And your question is weird but probably in good fun only?[/QUOTE]OK, my bad. Realized it was a bit improbable question to ask here just after hitting upload report. But no way to remove it.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2460861]OK, my bad. Realized it was a bit improbable question to ask here just after hitting upload report. But no way to remove it.[/QUOTE]It's no problem.
Found this on an Italian FB group, wrote by Cristiano the manager of the Wellcum.
Google translate said:
Good evening,
We were able to create a small guide based on the directives issued on the evening of June 23 by the Austrian government.
The rules for reopening are as follows:
There are no particular limitations. The whole structure is fully operational, only the opening hours will be reduced until 01.00 at night, including weekends.
At the entrance, the body temperature will be measured. People with temperature changes or poor health will not be admitted. (if you have a cold please postpone the visit).
No reservation is required to enter the club and NO CUSTOMER DATA WILL BE ASKED. Everything like before.
The use of the mask is not mandatory, it is only RECOMMENDED only when going up to the room with the girls. (So 8203;in all areas you can stay without a mask).
There are no limitations in relating to other customers or friends in the club, the use of common sense is recommended.
In the club there will be sanitizing stations for the hands, sheets and towels will be disposable and sanitized by the structure with a minimum temperature of 60 . Each room will be sanitized after use.
Contacts with the girls: WE recommend the use of the mask, NO kiss between people, NO group sex, and NO oral sex without protection.
Bye, Cristiano.
If no kiss and only CBJ, then no problem at Wellcum, I will spend my day giving great pleasure to my eyes watching wonderful Carinthian mountains. And I will try Andiamo.
[QUOTE=ChristianG;2461404]
Contacts with the girls: WE recommend the use of the mask, NO kiss between people, NO group sex and NO oral sex without protection.[/QUOTE]Thanks, wonder if this will apply to all clubs in Austria.
[QUOTE=Saturn11;2461456]Thanks, wonder if this will apply to all clubs in Austria.[/QUOTE]He said, "We were able to create a small guide based on the directives issued on the evening of June 23 by the Austrian government. ".
So rules should be the same for all clubs, why should the Austrian government make different rules for each club?
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2461416]And I will try Andiamo.[/QUOTE]Seems Andiamo will not re-open on 1st July and nobody knows when will reopen.
[QUOTE=ChristianG;2461508]He said, "We were able to create a small guide based on the directives issued on the evening of June 23 by the Austrian government. ".
So rules should be the same for all clubs, why should the Austrian government make different rules for each club?
Seems Andiamo will not re-open on 1st July and nobody knows when will reopen.[/QUOTE]Rules created by the government will be the same for every club, without a doubt.
If certain clubs will add their own even more restricted rules then this is their cup of tea, of course.
I don't believe that no oral without protection is a rule that the government made. I might be wrong, though, but I don't think that is the case at all. As far as I know there are really definite rules regarding hygiene in the club area but no rules regarding the sexual act at all. Only suggestions. A violation of a suggestion will not be a problem.
[QUOTE=ChristianG;2461508]He said, "We were able to create a small guide based on the directives issued on the evening of June 23 by the Austrian government. ".
So rules should be the same for all clubs, why should the Austrian government make different rules for each club?
[/QUOTE]Yeah rules will be the same, wondered if some clubs would interpret the directives differently. As Massimo Potente says will the rules say things like "no oral without protection" or is that something Wellcum have decided to do.
[QUOTE=Saturn11;2461522]Yeah rules will be the same, wondered if some clubs would interpret the directives differently. As Massimo Potente says will the rules say things like "no oral without protection" or is that something Wellcum have decided to do.[/QUOTE]Cristiano wrote in Italian FB groups and in Italian forums that the rules about NO FK and NO BBBJ are from the Austrian Government and not from Wellcum. He also wrote that nobody will control what happen in the room behind closed doors. I'm curious to read about how many girls will respect the rules or provide the service same before and how many girls will try to upselling.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2461416]If no kiss and only CBJ, then no problem at Wellcum, I will spend my day giving great pleasure to my eyes watching wonderful Carinthian mountains. And I will try Andiamo.[/QUOTE]Wellcum was never the highest level club for kissing level, even Lena was good and Anjie before silicon, not bad, but when mostly Italian business and they are not demanding for this. I remember very woman type as I like, Italian Tea, we had great breakfast together, very interesting, on 2018 Ferragosto party, but disappointing room after, she told me: but you are so different, Italians don't kiss. Andiamo is higher level for kissing, for my experience. Of course, can always find exception like Lena, my 2017 Summer girl.
[QUOTE=ChristianG;2461529]Cristiano wrote in Italian FB groups and in Italian forums that the rules about NO FK and NO BBBJ are from the Austrian Government and not from Wellcum. He also wrote that nobody will control what happen in the room behind closed doors. I'm curious to read about how many girls will respect the rules or provide the service same before and how many girls will try to upselling.[/QUOTE]Ah, that's pretty clear then! I can imagine upselling going on.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2461552]Wellcum was never the highest level club for kissing level, even Lena was good and Anjie before silicon, not bad, but when mostly Italian business and they are not demanding for this. I remember very woman type as I like, Italian Tea, we had great breakfast together, very interesting, on 2018 Ferragosto party, but disappointing room after, she told me: but you are so different, Italians don't kiss. Andiamo is higher level for kissing, for my experience. Of course, can always find exception like Lena, my 2017 Summer girl.[/QUOTE]I believe this is the norm for any big club to fall into. Basically it gets a lot harder for management to micromanage which girls are good for the club, and which ones are not so good the higher to number of girls. Because girls make pacts with each others in order to try and upsell more more in bigger clubs.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2461639]I believe this is the norm for any big club to fall into. Basically it gets a lot harder for management to micromanage which girls are good for the club, and which ones are not so good the higher to number of girls. Because girls make pacts with each others in order to try and upsell more more in bigger clubs.[/QUOTE]I would not say Wellcum was upselling club on my 4 Summer there, but girls are on Italian level, but as I wrote I found a super GFE, and Angie was fire in bed on 2018 , pity what she did when she was all pretty. Wish for few beauties there on this Summer, when very average on last Summer for my eyes, and then I m motivated to work to try to get the best. Yesterday at Amesia, after DATY result, a very pretty became passionate, she started kissing a lot but hiding her tongue, but after DATY, really passionate, stuck to my mouth, our tongues stuck, and what passionate sex after, dreamed doggy with such round ass. With second I would tell with wow rare aura, she told me she was a bit drunk with proseco, telling: You eat my pussy, becoming wild for sex, even a bit too wild for me who prefer sensuality, but so enjoyable to see evolution from your work, during room. Mila was really interesting for this, to enjoy result of my good work.
You see who is in the lineup don't you? At least 90% of the girls there now are girls I have seen before. Maybe you haven't though, as you have just gone once a year, and not 2 or 3 times as I have. But Daria is back for example too now, and you went with her didn't you?
[QUOTE=Pistons;2462626]You see who is in the lineup don't you? At least 90% of the girls there now are girls I have seen before. Maybe you haven't though, as you have just gone once a year, and not 2 or 3 times as I have. But Daria is back for example too now, and you went with her didn't you?[/QUOTE]I don't care about Daria now silicon, I want Mila, just to experience if she remember, because what improvement during room, like Jacky at Amesia on last Friday. If no Mila on casting, I will go to Andiamo first, girls are more interesting for me.
[URL]https://www.5min.at/202006293157/erbitterter-rechtsstreit-um-andiamo-erbe/[/URL]
"Many of the establishments will resume operations on July 1, 2020 after the Covid19 restrictions have been relaxed. As can be seen from the Andiamos Facebook page, it will probably not open again until August 1st. ".
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2462700]I don't care about Daria now silicon, I want Mila, just to experience if she remember, because what improvement during room, like Jacky at Amesia on last Friday. If no Mila on casting, I will go to Andiamo first, girls are more interesting for me.[/QUOTE]Daria last time I saw her looked better than ever. But she was not there last I was at WC in January, so its been awhile.
But I think you must once and for all recognize that Mila might not return. And move on.
[QUOTE=ChristianG;2462797][URL]https://www.5min.at/202006293157/erbitterter-rechtsstreit-um-andiamo-erbe/[/URL]
"Many of the establishments will resume operations on July 1, 2020 after the Covid19 restrictions have been relaxed. As can be seen from the Andiamos Facebook page, it will probably not open again until August 1st. ".[/QUOTE]Good if Andiamo open on 1 August when I will climb my hells in Frioul on 34/36, when Froome did on 34/32 for Zoncolan, but I doubt he will ever climb 28% Gentile. Will be intense extreme real sport, look forward.
Either way, lineup looks fine for 2-3 days. But is it at the level yet where you travel out into the middle of nowhere just for this one club at the stage?
I don't know. I guess it is considering the lack of competition at the moment. Maybe. But seems we must tone down our expectations compared to say a year or two ago.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2462845]Daria last time I saw her looked better than ever. But she was not there last I was at WC in January, so its been awhile.
But I think you must once and for all recognize that Mila might not return. And move on.[/QUOTE]Interesting girls are so rare for me, even being weekly all over FKK land. Not many Mila.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2462941]Either way, lineup looks fine for 2-3 days. But is it at the level yet where you travel out into the middle of nowhere just for this one club at the stage?
I don't know. I guess it is considering the lack of competition at the moment. Maybe. But seems we must tone down our expectations compared to say a year or two ago.[/QUOTE]Good start for me on my 2 week ends in Switzerland, when I could go with 10 girls on my standard for look and had 3 love sex rooms, 2 of them nearly wow with very fresh beauties. My 3 other rooms were quite good. German law didn't lower level for my love sex, at the moment, girls want to have business and don t care much about corona, as they say.
So, I have never been to Wellcum. Given FKK land in Germany is closed I have a choice between Sixens, Globe or Wellcum. I've been to Globe. Only once. Had a good night. Nothing incredible. Just ok. Obviously cannot judge the club on one visit.
Would like to try Wellcum. Would be very grateful if some of the senior names I see here and recognise would offer some guidance on the following.
Getting there. Is public transport just out of the question say from Venice? Nearest main airport looks like Venice. Is there another / better option? If by car, how long from Venice airport if I hire a car?
The hotel. Is it worth staying on the premises or better to book a nearby hotel, in which case, which (would want it to have a gym).
Price of entry to the club? Prices of girls for 1 hour sessions?
How would regulars rate it v the German clubs Sharks / Oceans / Oase? It looks smaller. Bit more like a Mainhattan or one of the Hamburg FKKs? Correct?
Finally, do most of the girls still come from EE and speak English.
Would be most grateful for the information to enable me to decide if I am visiting or not. Many thanks.
[QUOTE=PayForIt;2464671]So, I have never been to Wellcum. Given FKK land in Germany is closed I have a choice between Sixens, Globe or Wellcum. I've been to Globe. Only once. Had a good night. Nothing incredible. Just ok. Obviously cannot judge the club on one visit.
Would like to try Wellcum. Would be very grateful if some of the senior names I see here and recognise would offer some guidance on the following.
Getting there. Is public transport just out of the question say from Venice? Nearest main airport looks like Venice. Is there another / better option? If by car, how long from Venice airport if I hire a car?
The hotel. Is it worth staying on the premises or better to book a nearby hotel, in which case, which (would want it to have a gym).
Price of entry to the club? Prices of girls for 1 hour sessions?
How would regulars rate it v the German clubs Sharks / Oceans / Oase? It looks smaller. Bit more like a Mainhattan or one of the Hamburg FKKs? Correct?
Finally, do most of the girls still come from EE and speak English.
Would be most grateful for the information to enable me to decide if I am visiting or not. Many thanks.[/QUOTE]Globe is now too expensive for level of looks since 2019,6 ens is very average looks, Wellcum is a very beautiful club, entry 85 with good foods and I think can have a glass of wine, girls are for 70/30 , mostly Romanians like everywhere and Globe but for twice less expensive, even at Aphrodisia for 280/30 and 500/60 . Same kind of girls than in Germany. Wonderful view on Carinthian mountains from the garden with swimming pool. Some girls may come from Germany where no business, like they move and many Germans to Switzerland. You can take a girl to hotel part.
[QUOTE=PayForIt;2464671]Would like to try Wellcum. Would be very grateful if some of the senior names I see here and recognise would offer some guidance on the following.
[/QUOTE][B]Getting there. Is public transport just out of the question say from Venice? Nearest main airport looks like Venice. Is there another / better option? If by car, how long from Venice airport if I hire a car?[/B]
Biggest and only real problem for me with Wellcum is that it is just so remote without a car.
First visit I flew into LJU in Slovenia and used a Slovenian taxi company Taxi Tuamv [URL]https://tuamv.com/[/URL] between LJU and Wellcum. I paid 180 Euro for a round trip. You can get a quote and book online (they also operate wider in that AUT / ITA region). Very reliable, pleasant drivers.
Note that since then the small Slovenian national airline Adria Airways has collapsed, so that may affect business from LJU. Of course all airline travel may be iffy at the moment.
Second time I caught the train from Vienna for a 5 hour train trip down to Villach. If you want a taxi between Villach & Wellcum, the red Express 2020 Taxis have a deal with Wellcum for guests (& girls) - 30 Euro one way between Villach and Wellcum. Usually find one outside the station.
Alternatively, it's a 23 min / 5 Euro train trip from Villach to Arnoldstein, then a 3. 5 km / 10 Euro taxi to Wellcum. Note that Arnoldstein is a very small station where finding a waiting taxi is very unlikely. I did this once and ended up walking to Wellcum (40 min).
No Uber in that region AFAIK.
[B]The hotel. Is it worth staying on the premises or better to book a nearby hotel, in which case, which (would want it to have a gym).[/B]
Staying at The Hotel is really cool. At the end of the night, just pay for your drinks (if any) and head up to your room.
I'd liken it to an Ibis. Clean, minimalist, a bathroom and bed for the night, small desk, club has wifi. Small TV with no English channels.
Only knock is rooms aren't air-conditioned, so might be a problem in summer. And if you open the window you get visited by a variety of insects from the neighbouring forest.
I have stayed in Villach at the Holiday Inn. Very reasonable rates for a quality hotel, including a very well-appointed gym. 5 min walk to the station / taxi rank.
[B]Price of entry to the club? Prices of girls for 1 hour sessions?[/B]
EUR 85 entry. 70/30, but I paid EUR 100 to some ex-Globe girls and others who would provide Globe-like service.
[B]How would regulars rate it v the German clubs Sharks / Oceans / Oase? It looks smaller. Bit more like a Mainhattan or one of the Hamburg FKKs? Correct?[/B]
Based on only one visit to Sharks I would rate it similar to Sharks, and on several but not recent visits to Oase I'd rate Wellcum higher. Smaller inside than Sharks, but not too small. Last time I visited in Aug 2019 they were building a new hotel for the girls plus something new across the road, so some expansion going on at the time.
Wellcum vs Globe: much better facilities & food, great outdoors area with heated swimming pool, drinks a third the price, rooms much better (mirrors, showers), no loud music. Globe for me has the better looking girls, and is unique with the public sex.
Wellcum opens at noon. Always some girls present, but most seem to start from 4 pm onwards. The restaurant serves lunch until 4 pm, then shuts down and re-opens at 6 pm for dinner. Great food IMO.
[B]Finally, do most of the girls still come from EE and speak English.[/B]
Yes, the usual mostly Romanian girls.
[QUOTE=PayForIt;2464671]So, I have never been to Wellcum. Given FKK land in Germany is closed I have a choice between Sixens, Globe or Wellcum. I've been to Globe. Only once. Had a good night. Nothing incredible. Just ok. Obviously cannot judge the club on one visit.[/QUOTE]There are many FKK in Swiss, not only Globe. Club Palace, Zeus, Club Swiss, Sex Park, Club Olymp, Westside, History, New Blue Up, and many others.
[QUOTE=PayForIt;2464671]Getting there. Is public transport just out of the question say from Venice? Nearest main airport looks like Venice. Is there another / better option? If by car, how long from Venice airport if I hire a car?[/QUOTE][URL]https://wellcum.at/en/where-we-are/[/URL]
[QUOTE=PayForIt;2464671]Price of entry to the club? Prices of girls for 1 hour sessions?[/QUOTE]The entry fee is 85 euro. 70 euro for 30 min and 140 euro for 1 HR. FK and BBBJ are not extras, so if the girl asks extra money for these services you should report in the reception. Girls can refuse to do FK and BBBJ but they can't ask extra money for do it. The manager Cristiano wrote it in many italian boards. + 50 euro for CIM and +100 euro for anal.
I'll go there tomorrow. Monday and Thursday are total naked days.
[QUOTE=ChristianG;2464802]There are many FKK in Swiss, not only Globe. Club Palace, Zeus, Club Swiss, Sex Park, Club Olymp, Westside, History, New Blue Up, and many others.
[URL]https://wellcum.at/en/where-we-are/[/URL]
The entry fee is 85 euro. 70 euro for 30 min and 140 euro for 1 HR. FK and BBBJ are not extras, so if the girl asks extra money for these services you should report in the reception. Girls can refuse to do FK and BBBJ but they can't ask extra money for do it. The manager Cristiano wrote it in many italian boards. + 50 euro for CIM and +100 euro for anal.
I'll go there tomorrow. Monday and Thursday are total naked days.[/QUOTE]Really helpful so thank you. Prices are very reasonable. I was not aware of the other FKKs in Switzerland and will try some so thanks again. I'the like to visit Wellcum but it is not the easiest place to get to without a car. I prefer to take public transport to FKKs but it looks very difficult to Wellcum.
Would still appreciate the thoughts of anyone making a comparison with the clubs in Germany.
Wellcum is mostly Italian business, so not the highest level for real FK. Girls, mostly Romanians, are on same level than Sharks. Very beautiful club with beautiful garden and swimming pool. Good foods.
Many clubs opened in Switzerland, the only one which can compete with Sharks is Freubad North Bern with garden and 2 swimming pool. Only low level terrace now at Globe and falling casting for looks, but a German wave with many German girls is arriving. No more warm swimming pool at Globe. I remember on Summer 2016 when my hernie was going out of my belly, like a knife in belly, so I went in warm water to put it inside belly, again knife in belly, could hardly breathe, but warm water helped for pain, I remember Larissa seeing me, but 2 days after operation, I spent night with my best FKK nurse, candy Daria at LR. The only one who asked me to give her a photo. Rare tender passionate.
[QUOTE=PayForIt;2464817]Really helpful so thank you. Prices are very reasonable. I was not aware of the other FKKs in Switzerland and will try some so thanks again. I'the like to visit Wellcum but it is not the easiest place to get to without a car. I prefer to take public transport to FKKs but it looks very difficult to Wellcum.
Would still appreciate the thoughts of anyone making a comparison with the clubs in Germany.[/QUOTE]Wellcum is considered to be one of the best if not the best FKK in all German speaking countries. I personally think it is the most professionally run one by far, that I know. At the end of the day it is still a question of taste, though. Unless you try, you will never know.
Wellcum sounds very tempting for a weekend visit, for one day it's a bit difficult to get there and back.
One question is how many girls showed up already, as of tomorrow Austria asks people traveling from Romania to quarantine / self isolate for 14 days due to the raising numbers in Romania.
[URL]https://bmi.gv.at/news.aspx?id=6848727832704B4B752F633D[/URL]
[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2464871]Wellcum is considered to be one of the best if not the best FKK in all German speaking countries. I personally think it is the most professionally run one by far, that I know. At the end of the day it is still a question of taste, though. Unless you try, you will never know.[/QUOTE]From my experience all over FKK land, yes Wellcum is one of the most beautiful club with good foods, and best neighborhood seen from the garden, but not one of the highest level for girls and for rooms. I wait to compare with GT Vienna, but for me Andiamo is a bit higher level for girls.
[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2464872]One question is how many girls showed up already, as of tomorrow Austria asks people traveling from Romania to quarantine / self isolate for 14 days due to the raising numbers in Romania.[/QUOTE]I read this on the [URL]austria.info[/URL] website under Current Situation in Austria ...
[B]8 July[/B]: [I]Travellers from Bulgaria and Romania need a medical certificate (negative COVID-19 test) or must commit to self-quarantine when entering Austria[/I].
[B]8 July[/B]: [I]Carinthia is planning to reintroduce a mask requirement for selected towns from 9 pm To 2 am Details to follow[/I].
So, looks like girls can get tested just before entering to avoid self-quarantine. Wellcum is in the Carinthia region, so that's not heartening either.
Things aren't moving in the right direction, unfortunately. Hope all the girls make some money while they can.
[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2464872]Wellcum sounds very tempting for a weekend visit, for one day it's a bit difficult to get there and back.
One question is how many girls showed up already, as of tomorrow Austria asks people traveling from Romania to quarantine / self isolate for 14 days due to the raising numbers in Romania.
[URL]https://bmi.gv.at/news.aspx?id=6848727832704B4B752F633D[/URL][/QUOTE]Copy pasting this translated post from an Italian forum. Posted on July 8th:
[quote]Hello, I am writing to share with you the news of today. From an operational point of view, everything remains unchanged, Wellcum is completely open, including the massage room.
Borders with Italy are open without controls. Today Austria has restricted entry to a large part of Eastern Europe, in particular Bulgaria, Romania and Moldova. Having said that, there will be some changes regarding new arrivals, we are making lists for medical visits with the girls present in Germany, Austria, Switzerland and Italy. I confirm that 2 Germans, 4 Bulgarians, 2 Italians and other than Romania have arrived, are making the book and will be ready from today to the next 10/14 days. Many new Bulgarians unfortunately will have to wait because they are blocked by this new ordinance. About 80 girls should be present for this weekend.
C.[/quote]
9th July 2020.
The place is very good, beautiful garden, very nice spa, and relaxing room. Buffet (closed from 4 pm to 6 pm) offers a good variety of food and the food is good for an FKK. Soft drinks are included only from the self machine, don't order at the bar because you will have to pay for it. This is a bullshit IMHO.
Monday and Thursday are total naked days.
The entry fee is 85 euro. 30 min for 70 euro, 1 HR for 140 euro. CIM +50 euro. Anal +100 euro. Lesbo show +50 euro each girl. FK and BBBJ are not extra and the girls can't try to upsell it. If they try to upsell just report to the manager.
Funny that many customers thinking to be in a nightclub and spending a lot of money on drinks and lady drinks instead of having sex with them. A lot of guys wore swimsuits, ridiculous!
The line up was not bad with 64 girls from the website.
Unfortunately, the most beautiful and young girls have a very bad attitude and some of them are rude. Many of them working in a team and looking for 3 some with a lot of upselling. So I think you must choose very carefully and ask for everything upfront before going to the room. For me attitude and performance are more important than looks. For attitude and service the Swiss's FKK wins hands down.
I did six rooms with: the exotic Adane, Celine Ro, Gloria Venezuela, Luna (2 times) Italian, and Aurora from Bulgaria. All girls did FK, BBBJ, DATY, and sex in the 70€ - 30 min.
Luna is a real sex machine, a hand grenade in the bed. Gloria is a hot and passionate Latina. Adane is also good in the room. Celine and Aurora just do their work.
Thanks for the review, and good to hear that most girls offer good (standard) service with DFK and BBBJ!
About the attitude of young and beautiful girls (agreed by in the group, like a cartel! More and more this happens now also in the "famous" Club Globe in Zurich, so beware! The Rumanian "how can I do as little as possible for as much money as possible"-cartel is active everywhere I am afraid.
On last night at Globe, a looking Caucasian type, not looking Balkanian, took shower with swimsuit, so no washing dick nor ass, but just behind ears. Poor girls. I quite often see this. Some with socks or with casquette or sunglasses, real circus.
After fast visit of Vienna: Schonbrunn, Karlplatz and a walk in Prater, to recover from my wow night in GT, fast run in A2 curves to Villach, Andiamo is closed, so I arrived at Wellcum on Sunday at 6 pm, just on time for theîner which was good, better foods than at GT, better showers, Wellcum is a better club for 85 can pay with CB versus 90 to pay in cash, one of the most beautiful in FKK land with the most exceptionnal view for my eyes from the garden. Parking was quite full, normal for a Sunday with Italians. But for girls, just the fall compare to GT which is higher level for my arithmetic than Globe where no room on my last visits versus 3 rooms at GT when I arrived only around 4 pm, I made my 3 highest targets with Anita for first of course when I made the run from Zurich to Vienna under wall of rain for her, but could go with around 5 others, meaning 8 girls being attractive for my eyes, when really not many at Globe except Megan, and my eyes cried at Wellcum, so low casting for looks, only one, Klara attracted me because of her charming behavior at first contact, becoming super GFE worthing 1 hour to make her discover foreplay, like making discovering couple sexuality to wow Iranian at GT on previous night. Maybe because start, but looks are really falling at Wellcum, Mila would be by far the sexiest, even she hated this job, but treating her like a woman worked to get the woman. Even Klara was a real woman, before and in room, choosing a beautiful room with round bed, very erotic shower together to foreplay, even more erotic than at Globe, but I miss sexy girls like Mila. Wish maybe at Andiamo on August. Low casting and no buffet on late night, Wellcum have really to improve for me, I know only 3 clubs in Austria and Wellcum is now number 3, when a beautiful club, but not beautiful girls.
[QUOTE=ChristianG;2465433]A lot of guys wore swimsuits, ridiculous!.[/QUOTE]Now you just labelled Italian men ridiculous. As this is very standard in Italy. And 90% of the people at Wellcum are Italians.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2466314]After fast visit of Vienna: Schonbrunn, Karlplatz and a walk in Prater, to recover from my wow night in GT, fast run in A2 curves to Villach, Andiamo is closed, so I arrived at Wellcum on Sunday at 6 pm, just on time for thener which was good, better foods than at GT, better showers, Wellcum is a better club for 85 can pay with CB versus 90 to pay in cash, one of the most beautiful in FKK land with the most exceptionnal view for my eyes from the garden. Parking was quite full, normal for a Sunday with Italians. But for girls, just the fall compare to GT which is higher level for my arithmetic than Globe where no room on my last visits versus 3 rooms at GT when I arrived only around 4 pm, I made my 3 highest targets with Anita for first of course when I made the run from Zurich to Vienna under wall of rain for her, but could go with around 5 others, meaning 8 girls being attractive for my eyes, when really not many at Globe except Megan, and my eyes cried at Wellcum, so low casting for looks, only one, Klara attracted me because of her charming behavior at first contact, becoming super GFE worthing 1 hour to make her discover foreplay, like making discovering couple sexuality to wow Iranian at GT on previous night. Maybe because start, but looks are really falling at Wellcum, Mila would be by far the sexiest, even she hated this job, but treating her like a woman worked to get the woman. Even Klara was a real woman, before and in room, choosing a beautiful room with round bed, very erotic shower together to foreplay, even more erotic than at Globe, but I miss sexy girls like Mila. Wish maybe at Andiamo on August. Low casting and no buffet on late night, Wellcum have really to improve for me, I know only 3 clubs in Austria and Wellcum is now number 3, when a beautiful club, but not beautiful girls.[/QUOTE]No asking for name or phone, but they take temperature at Wellcum. Prettiest was Italian brunette on desk. Can pay entry with CB and no charge. 5% charge to get money for girls.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2466314] my eyes cried at Wellcum, so low casting for looks, only one, Klara attracted me because of her charming behavior at first contact, becoming super GFE worthing 1 hour to make her discover foreplay [/QUOTE]Hey Sirioja,
I'm surprised you didn't check out Ukrainian / Moldovan Anna. I thought she would be your type of girl. Gorgeous face, platinum blond hair, blue eyes, womanly body, natural tits, no tats, excellent service and elegant demeanor. She would be comparable in looks to one of your faves, the German Bambi from FKK Harmony.
Personally, I would try Morgana. Those photos of her tight body and exotic gypsy looks sure gets my juices flowing.
Howie.
[QUOTE=Howie;2466595]Hey Sirioja,
I'm surprised you didn't check out Ukrainian / Moldovan Anna. I thought she would be your type of girl. Gorgeous face, platinum blond hair, blue eyes, womanly body, natural tits, no tats, excellent service and elegant demeanor. She would be comparable in looks to one of your faves, the German Bambi from FKK Harmony.
Personally, I would try Morgana. Those photos of her tight body and exotic gypsy looks sure gets my juices flowing.
Howie.[/QUOTE]Maybe your Anna didn't work on this Sunday which is usually quite good business day, but empty at 9 pm. Really no wow for any look, after GT, but Klara for her charm and looking like a normal woman I always prefer compare to prostitutes images I m bored of, and no regret because she was a real lovely pleasure. Wellcum is beautiful even sad and too dark, I ate good even no buffet on night, but casting seen is down. Not even sure to return, I will go to Andiamo first, then maybe GT, no rush for Wellcum. On 6 ens NL level for looks but more expensive and more far. Prettiest was Italian brunette on desk.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2466635]Prettiest was Italian brunette on desk.[/QUOTE]She really is hot. One truly has to restrain themselves not to walk up and ask her to the room right?
[QUOTE=Pistons;2466734]She really is hot. One truly has to restrain themselves not to walk up and ask her to the room right?[/QUOTE]I think not same than on August 2019 who was not Italian, but also the prettiest. Hard job to find beauty now at Wellcum. Quantity is not quality.
[QUOTE=ShoesAndSocks;2464716][B]Getting there. Is public transport just out of the question say from Venice? Nearest main airport looks like Venice. Is there another / better option? If by car, how long from Venice airport if I hire a car?[/B]
Biggest and only real problem for me with Wellcum is that it is just so remote without a car.
First visit I flew into LJU in Slovenia and used a Slovenian taxi company Taxi Tuamv [URL]https://tuamv.com/[/URL] between LJU and Wellcum. I paid 180 Euro for a round trip. You can get a quote and book online (they also operate wider in that AUT / ITA region). Very reliable, pleasant drivers.
Note that since then the small Slovenian national airline Adria Airways has collapsed, so that may affect business from LJU. Of course all airline travel may be iffy at the moment.
Second time I caught the train from Vienna for a 5 hour train trip down to Villach. If you want a taxi between Villach & Wellcum, the red Express 2020 Taxis have a deal with Wellcum for guests (& girls) - 30 Euro one way between Villach and Wellcum. Usually find one outside the station.
Alternatively, it's a 23 min / 5 Euro train trip from Villach to Arnoldstein, then a 3. 5 km / 10 Euro taxi to Wellcum. Note that Arnoldstein is a very small station where finding a waiting taxi is very unlikely. I did this once and ended up walking to Wellcum (40 min).
No Uber in that region AFAIK.
[B]The hotel. Is it worth staying on the premises or better to book a nearby hotel, in which case, which (would want it to have a gym).[/B]
Staying at The Hotel is really cool. At the end of the night, just pay for your drinks (if any) and head up to your room...[/QUOTE]Thank you for a great post. Someone should add this to the Reports of Distinction. It's on my list for sure now.
Any idea which former Globe girls are at Wellcum?
[QUOTE=Howie;2466595]Hey Sirioja,
I'm surprised you didn't check out Ukrainian / Moldovan Anna. I thought she would be your type of girl. Gorgeous face, platinum blond hair, blue eyes, womanly body, natural tits, no tats, excellent service and elegant demeanor. She would be comparable in looks to one of your faves, the German Bambi from FKK Harmony.
Personally, I would try Morgana. Those photos of her tight body and exotic gypsy looks sure gets my juices flowing.
Howie.[/QUOTE]Is your Anna staying close to girls lockers, under TV? Milky skin, but this one can t compete with Bambi. De for face, nor a model when 160 bare feet. Model type start around 170 bare feet for me and supermodel or Victoria secret are close to 180 bare feet, meaning NBA on high heels. I remember really impressive Rose. De walking at GT, but Bruggen.
[QUOTE=Sebastiane;2466893]Thank you for a great post. Someone should add this to the Reports of Distinction. It's on my list for sure now.
Any idea which former Globe girls are at Wellcum?[/QUOTE]No Megan look seen at Wellcum, but Klara has charm to behave and look like a normal woman, much more attractive than prostitutes images.
[QUOTE=Sebastiane;2466893]Any idea which former Globe girls are at Wellcum?[/QUOTE]Only one I can see now that I knew of is Lori who was Andreea at Globe some time ago.
Haven't been to Wellcum since August last year. Could well be others by now.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2466924]Is your Anna staying close to girls lockers, under TV?[/QUOTE]Nope. She normally hangs out on the seats located between the bottom of the stairs leading up to the bedrooms and the Wellness area entrance. See photos attached.
Howie.
[QUOTE=Howie;2467576]Nope. She normally hangs out on the seats located between the bottom of the stairs leading up to the bedrooms and the Wellness area entrance. See photos attached.
Howie.[/QUOTE]Close to ex kino, now ridiculous small rooms I will never go. Not many girls staying there. Public sex in GT Vienna kino.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2466924]Is your Anna staying close to girls lockers, under TV? Milky skin, but this one can t compete with Bambi. De for face, nor a model when 160 bare feet. Model type start around 170 bare feet for me and supermodel or Victoria secret are close to 180 bare feet, meaning NBA on high heels. I remember really impressive Rose. De walking at GT, but Bruggen.[/QUOTE]Anna at Wellcum is 178 or 179 cm tall. Beautiful face, but too tall for my liking. But sure thing if I had been into girls that tall! As Howie says, she might be your type. First time I saw her was last fall, so you probably haven't met her yet. She is kinda new then I suppose.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2467677]Anna at Wellcum is 178 or 179 cm tall. Beautiful face, but too tall for my liking. But sure thing if I had been into girls that tall! As Howie says, she might be your type. First time I saw her was last fall, so you probably haven't met her yet. She is kinda new then I suppose.[/QUOTE]Didn't notice her on Sunday when really lack of pretty faces. Look forward for a supermodel while Zoncolan / Gentile tour, but will also return to GT where I like woman types, when Darla looks like a plastic doll now.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2467677]Anna at Wellcum is 178 or 179 cm tall. Beautiful face, but too tall for my liking. But sure thing if I had been into girls that tall! As Howie says, she might be your type. First time I saw her was last fall, so you probably haven't met her yet. She is kinda new then I suppose.[/QUOTE]I happened to be there the day she started, last Sunday in August, 2019.
Was stunned by the beauty of her face, and had sessions with her that day and the next.
Very sweet girl, probably a bit nervous given she was just finding her feet in a new big club. Would love to have the opportunity for more time with her, whenever that might be.
I visited FKK Wellcum recently, in total 4 visits on several days end of July. The line-up was not my cup of tea compared with last summer 2019 and end of December 2019. No beautiful blonds like Irina, Ada and Sophia anymore.
Nevertheless some several good rooms with stunning girls.
Anna, 22 yo, Moldova, stunning beautiful blond lady 1. 78 m and excellent body. Delivers good service including CIM. In total I made 5 rooms from 1 hour with her. I really liked her and her attitude. Always on the seats before entering the wellness-area.
Ilona, mid 20's, blond curly hair, Rom, always sitting under the TV-screen on the right side when entering the club. Can be recognised by wearing light blue heels. Delivers good service. 2 rooms in total with this nice lady.
3 rooms in total with Elma, brunette 27 yo from Rom always sitting on the last couch before entering the welness. Provides perfect BJ with CIM.
Frther did sessions with Sheila, Amira, Milenia and Talida.
[QUOTE=ZimmerSchatz;2471467]I visited FKK Wellcum recently, in total 4 visits on several days end of July. The line-up was not my cup of tea compared with last summer 2019 and end of December 2019. No beautiful blonds like Irina, Ada and Sophia anymore.[/QUOTE]Touche. With a taste of beauty like this, I suppose it is not much of a loss. I agree Sophia is beautiful, but Irina and Ada? Are they your top picks?
[QUOTE=ZimmerSchatz;2471467]I visited FKK Wellcum recently, in total 4 visits on several days end of July. The line-up was not my cup of tea compared with last summer 2019 and end of December 2019. No beautiful blonds like Irina, Ada and Sophia anymore.
Nevertheless some several good rooms with stunning girls.
Anna, 22 yo, Moldova, stunning beautiful blond lady 1. 78 m and excellent body. Delivers good service including CIM. In total I made 5 rooms from 1 hour with her. I really liked her and her attitude. Always on the seats before entering the wellness-area.
Ilona, mid 20's, blond curly hair, Rom, always sitting under the TV-screen on the right side when entering the club. Can be recognised by wearing light blue heels. Delivers good service. 2 rooms in total with this nice lady.
3 rooms in total with Elma, brunette 27 yo from Rom always sitting on the last couch before entering the welness. Provides perfect BJ with CIM.
Frther did sessions with Sheila, Amira, Milenia and Talida.[/QUOTE]Casting was already low level for me on August 2019 and again on 12 July 2020 . GT Vienna have far higher casting for me.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2471686]Touche. With a taste of beauty like this, I suppose it is not much of a loss. I agree Sophia is beautiful, but Irina and Ada? Are they your top picks?[/QUOTE]Yes, Irina a stunning beauty and Ada together with Dania a brunette. Much better than all the silicon and tattooed Romanians, which are walking around this summer.
Last time I visited Wellcum in August 2019 a new "hotel" for the girls had been built, and there was also some construction going on across the road from the main club entrance.
Has anything new been opened over there? Maybe it got suspended due to covid-19?
[QUOTE=ZimmerSchatz;2471800]Yes, Irina a stunning beauty and Ada together with Dania a brunette. Much better than all the silicon and tattooed Romanians, which are walking around this summer.[/QUOTE]But you repeated with 3 and went with 4 others, meaning 7 attractive girls for you. It would mean exceptional casting for me to find 7 attractive looks. My best time at Wellcum with best casting seen was on Summer 2017 and when I tried exceptional GFE Lena, then I went only with her on 4 days between Zoncolan and Wellcum. Darla red hair without silicon at this time couldn/t compete. Only one sweet beauty would be good for me, even Karla was really woman behavior and good in bed on 12 July when my eyes cried at Wellcum.
[QUOTE=ShoesAndSocks;2471827]Last time I visited Wellcum in August 2019 a new "hotel" for the girls had been built, and there was also some construction going on across the road from the main club entrance.
Has anything new been opened over there? Maybe it got suspended due to covid-19?[/QUOTE]What was being built last summer was the new apartment building for the girls. And when the girls moved over there, the hotel in the main building expanded into the old rooms for the girls. It opened in October last year I believe.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2471959]What was being built last summer was the new apartment building for the girls. And when the girls moved over there, the hotel in the main building expanded into the old rooms for the girls. It opened in October last year I believe.[/QUOTE]Cheers. I was referring to the cleared area highlighted in the attached image from Google Maps.
The forest had been cleared previously I think, and there seemed to be some earth-moving going on, looking like site preparation for something new. Don't know when Google Maps was last updated, but it looks how I recall it from August last year.
The new girls quarters I believe is the building seen in the bottom left hand corner. Maybe that area was just being used for more direct access during the construction of that building.
They have to cut now too high trees, because when I arrive I always run in the garden but can t have good view now on superb Carinthian mountains, my best pleasure for my eyes and to relax my mind at Wellcum, no other FKK land club can compete for the wow view. When I hear beautiful garden in GT Bruggen, so far below with no swimming pool and no mountains around.
I disagree with the statement that the current Wellcum casting is not that good even compared with other FKKs located elsewhere. I think it is as good as it gets these days seeing the current obstacles that girls face getting into our country and getting the health clearance and all that. Having been to all 3 big FKKs in Austria in the last 3 weeks Wellcum was the best in my opinion although by far not yet as great as in prior years but go figure, nothing is better now than it was before Corona. Especially Mika and Adriana stick out as a power duo of beauty. Didn't like the part where they tried to force a trio on me and other guys that much but generally they are nothing short of the fashion model category.
[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2473062]I disagree with the statement that the current Wellcum casting is not that good even compared with other FKKs located elsewhere. I think it is as good as it gets these days seeing the current obstacles that girls face getting into our country and getting the health clearance and all that. Having been to all 3 big FKKs in Austria in the last 3 weeks Wellcum was the best in my opinion although by far not yet as great as in prior years but go figure, nothing is better now than it was before Corona. Especially Mika and Adriana stick out as a power duo of beauty. Didn't like the part where they tried to force a trio on me and other guys that much but generally they are nothing short of the fashion model category.[/QUOTE]Looking at the updated veniamo lineup, it seems Wellcums casting is improving week by week also.
Just got to hope Austria stays green for travel and doesn't reimpose a new lockdown now.
Mika and Adriana are new names to me though, and I don't see any of them listed on their website.
Maybe you mean Nika and Adelina? Not that I remember Nika, but Adelina is kind of a star I guess.
[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2473062]I disagree with the statement that the current Wellcum casting is not that good even compared with other FKKs located elsewhere. I think it is as good as it gets these days seeing the current obstacles that girls face getting into our country and getting the health clearance and all that. Having been to all 3 big FKKs in Austria in the last 3 weeks Wellcum was the best in my opinion although by far not yet as great as in prior years but go figure, nothing is better now than it was before Corona. Especially Mika and Adriana stick out as a power duo of beauty. Didn't like the part where they tried to force a trio on me and other guys that much but generally they are nothing short of the fashion model category.[/QUOTE]Other than Wellcum and GT which have far higher casting for my tastes, what is third big? Andiamo? I found interesting looks at Andiamo.
Wondered if anyone lucky enough to be able to visit Wellcum at the moment could ID the girls shown in the pictures attached.
They put these up on IG to tempt us but don't mention names, unfortunately.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2473212]
Maybe you mean Nika and Adelina? Not that I remember Nika, but Adelina is kind of a star I guess.[/QUOTE]That's exactly right. My bad. Nika and Adelina although I thought I heard her say the name Mika.
[QUOTE=ShoesAndSocks;2473302]Wondered if anyone lucky enough to be able to visit Wellcum at the moment could ID the girls shown in the pictures attached.
They put these up on IG to tempt us but don't mention names, unfortunately.[/QUOTE]Not 100% certain, but the brunette on the left in the 2nd picture looks a bit like Evelin. But I could be wrong. Maybe a new girl instead.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2473500]Not 100% certain, but the brunette on the left in the 2nd picture looks a bit like Evelin. But I could be wrong. Maybe a new girl instead.[/QUOTE]So, this girl in other words:
[URL]https://veniamo.it/girl-detail/163[/URL]
The right girl on the 2nd picture is Sheila.
Entry is less than 50 on Sunday which is usually quite good casting day. Better for me than on Wellcum Ferragosto party with so average casting on last August. I remember some girls were leaving at 9 pm because they didn't get business, guys were not going to them, no room for me, when 2 good rooms on Sunday at Andiamo and could even go with a third. Not so expensive for good foods, garden with swimming pool. I liked my visits at Andiamo, more chic than Wellcum or even GT for me, even can t compete with Wellcum for view from the garden.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2474196]Entry is less than 50 on Sunday which is usually quite good casting day. Better for me than on Wellcum Ferragosto party with so average casting on last August. I remember some girls were leaving at 9 pm because they didn't get business, guys were not going to them, no room for me, when 2 good rooms on Sunday at Andiamo and could even go with a third. Not so expensive for good foods, garden with swimming pool. I liked my visits at Andiamo, more chic than Wellcum or even GT for me, even can t compete with Wellcum for view from the garden.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately Andiamo is still closed, really wish it will open again because more chic for me than Wellcum, despite real classy wow look for brunette on desk on last night. But really look like a fuck factory, even a bit improvement for few looks compare to July or last Summer, but not attractive for behavior. Not level I look for. For fans, Andrea or Evelin ex Globe, Evelin being also ex Ivone Bumsalp, are now at Wellcum, both lovely, like are usually girls who know me, even we never had time together, but dog years for look, but at least nice behavior, even not enough. I wonder about the interest of a band playing Freddy Mercury for nearly 1 hour, making noise and blocking stairs to rooms, we had to go through entry, I think clients would prefer beauties and to hear when talking with. At 10 pm, some girls leave. At midnight, gay club.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2467677]Anna at Wellcum is 178 or 179 cm tall. Beautiful face, but too tall for my liking. But sure thing if I had been into girls that tall! As Howie says, she might be your type. First time I saw her was last fall, so you probably haven't met her yet. She is kinda new then I suppose.[/QUOTE]Not so tall bare feet, maximum 173/174 and pretty sure Romanian, maybe on Moldovia border or with both roots, when Romanian is usually a quality for me. She speaks a bit of French. Sweet girl, a beautiful smile, but. Doesn't seem busy compare to some others.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2475136]Not so tall bare feet, maximum 173/174 and pretty sure Romanian, maybe on Moldovia border or with both roots, when Romanian is usually a quality for me. She speaks a bit of French. Sweet girl, a beautiful smile, but. Doesn't seem busy compare to some others.[/QUOTE]Hey Sirioja,
Did you make out with Anna? If not, what held you back?
Curious to know who else was of interest to you when you were recently at Wellcum?
Howie.
[QUOTE=Howie;2475602]Hey Sirioja,
Did you make out with Anna? If not, what held you back?
Curious to know who else was of interest to you when you were recently at Wellcum?
Howie.[/QUOTE]Among so average looks, Wellcum is really down for quality since 2017/2018 and girls telling not kissing because of corona but proposing to suck good, or Nika and her friend trying to fuck clients with threesome and asking for extra like CIM, anal, proposing anal to me, a real joke, just a shame for all Romanian girls who are very honest in this job, and they find guys to play their game, incredible, new Wellcum falling quality when even foods are not improving, so when no wow for her look and in bed, but pretty enough with beautiful smile, teeth and eyes, and kind and sweet under cold image, when didn't think to repeat after our discovery on Thursday evening when I delayed my climbings to recover and not to break more the machine, but real improvement just before closing on Saturday, after 0 room at GT on Friday but only my fault with Sepid, I played a bad game with her, even very busy on crowded Saturday, when not on Thursday evening, but smiling and welcoming, speaking in French she learned at school, where do girls usually learn french at school? From past culture behind the wall, so we finished, even she was tired, after club was closed, telling me we could stay as long I wanted, no rush, and when I returned to Wellcum restaurant when couldn't climb on rainy Sunday with storm in Frioul, no better seen, so, still smiling and welcoming, joking, for our third room, when she did let go, really enjoyable to experience her improvement for our 3 rooms even always late, on Saturday and Sunday, I was her last before lady went to dream. So, Anna was my only 4 days in Austria girl, under cold image and too heavy make up I'm pretty sure she doesn t need so heavy, but yes, natural body with no tattoo, piercing, silicon, acid / botox, a miracle in FKK, only fashion purple all nails painting, good care for body and hygiene, nice, kind, sweet, not speaking about money and killing your desire, she is honor for Romanian girls she has sweetness. Most attractive would have been brunette on desk, despite bit of lack of freshness for face skin on Sunday, but super sexy small model type. But low casting for Wellcum. Despite my Friday, I still think GT is higher level for girls, because Wellcum is on Italian level. Really missed sexy girls like Mila.
Great to be back at W.
FKK Thursday. Many fine bodies; easily equal CH Globe which has been my recent favourite. More naturals. And all girls out in sunlight by pool and garden so body 'imperfections' not hidden by nightclub lighting.
Some 6/7 (to my eyes) but lineup everywhere not same as 2 years ago.
Better price (70/30), better food, better rooms, equal girls; why did I stay away? OK, for sevice you want you have to ask to check, not like G, but all available.
Julia, so elegant, her first time in garden gazebo (she say). (no DFK with me).
Daria, back from her Jan CH tour, so sweet, and full G style service if you ask. Several other ex-CH girls who didn't like the 'stress'. Girls at W work 8 hours; more only if they choose.
Nosa, real gentle woman.
Many girls also nude or semi-nude Friday.
To compare, CH G great for sleazy hard ambiance; Aust W great for many hours relax, proper wellness, top garden, look, eat, drinks (2 inc in entry) and all style gorgeous girls.
Manager Cristiano on the ball and happy to discuss details. Regular poster on Italian gnoccatravel website.
Will return soon.
[QUOTE=Dubner32;2479343]Great to be back at W. FKK Thursday. Many fine bodies; easily equal CH Globe which has been my recent favourite. ... Better price (70/30), better food, better rooms, equal girls; why did I stay away? OK, for service you want you have to ask to check, not like G, but all available.
...
To compare, CH G great for sleazy hard ambiance; Aust W great for many hours relax, proper wellness, top garden, look, eat, drinks (2 inc in entry) and all style gorgeous girls.[/QUOTE]Totally agree with your concise comparison of these clubs. I'd also give W kudos for not having deafening music, but G scores much higher on accessibility as W is a bugger to get to.
Regarding ex-CH girls, I noticed a Nadira pop up at W just after Nadira from G disappeared. Any chance it's one and the same girl? From the W pics, I can't convince myself it's her.
When Andiamo is unfortunately still closed, when no more Marina which was a beautiful club, so average casting at Wellcum on this Summer when I visited on 4 times on July and August, from Thursday to Sunday which are best casting days. 4 visits when I planned only 2, because no room at GT Vienna but my fault about Sepid, and bad weather in Frioul, so no grip for rear bicycle wheel to climb Zoncolan, when I had to decide, after waiting for 3 days, to climb on a bit wet track with rear wheel sliding sometimes. So I used Wellcum as restaurant, but so boring, Nika and her friend going to fuck clients, Daria looking like a plastic doll, some girls not kissing but I m not Italian, lack of beauties, charm and elegance, fortunately for me, after average discovery and didn't even think to repeat, but Anna became really charming, speaking in french, maybe she enjoyed something becoming crescendo, so after turning around, bored to die for hours, I went to her again on late night, we finished after club was closed, with lights on in lounge. I really miss Lena 2017 and super sexy milky skin natural beauty Mila. Manager has really bad eyes if he didn't keep her, even I know she didn't like this job, but she did worth we treated her to deserve from her, and far prettier than looks on 2019 and 2020. Entry 85 is too expensive for such casting, when foods also fell, with no more on late night. Only brunette on desk is wow. Fortunately for Wellcum, nothing else around now and Italians are not demanding for girls, but when I see Milana for Russian girls in Milano, I have no problem to make a run from Tarvisio to Milano, less than 3 hours, when it s a real pleasure to drive in Italy compare to nightmare now on German autobahns. Really wish Wellcum will improve for girls looks and behavior, meaning services. Higher level at GT Vienna.
[QUOTE=ShoesAndSocks;2479398]Regarding ex-CH girls, I noticed a Nadira pop up at W just after Nadira from G disappeared. Any chance it's one and the same girl? From the W pics, I can't convince myself it's her.[/QUOTE]Third picture, yes it's her.
I see on the lineup there is now a Nia and a Natali. Natali seems to be a new girl at 20 or 21 years old. But no info on Nia yet. Is it the same as the former Nia?
And what's up with giving new girls the same names as some old favourites? LOL. Same thing Oase usually do.
Either way, the new Natali seems to have good reviews on gnoccatravel at least.
[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2479486]Third picture, yes it's her.[/QUOTE]Yes, I'm now convinced too. There is a new video of her on the Wellcum website, and she's wearing the same pair of silver sparkly shoes as she was in the Globe pics.
There was something about her mouth / lower face in the W pics that didn't quite match up with my memories of her, but it was November 2019 when I was last with her.
Guys on gnoccatravels have mentioned she is a beautiful Moldovan which matches as well.
Great to be back at Nhs and bigpharma are tracking you by exam on the girls tracking you perverts by the girls.
The virus in the air go and come.
The rooms are little no air.
With French kiss perfect virus transmission.
I wait to see the effect.
Already sell mrna plus nvax.
Buy t note 3025 and tbond 2045 betting on USD.
Good luck and farewell.
Pay attention at van with notarzt written go up and down in villach hospital.
I took the train from Venice, early November last year. Search for my post with details. In any case it was a 3 hour train ride with one change, to Villach. From there I took a local bus to Arnoldstein where I stayed in a simple hotel. Taxi to and from the club. Not a bad option, and no one questions why you would go to Venice.
[QUOTE=PayForIt;2464671]So, I have never been to Wellcum. Given FKK land in Germany is closed I have a choice between Sixens, Globe or Wellcum. I've been to Globe. Only once. Had a good night. Nothing incredible. Just ok. Obviously cannot judge the club on one visit.
Would like to try Wellcum. Would be very grateful if some of the senior names I see here and recognise would offer some guidance on the following.
Getting there. Is public transport just out of the question say from Venice? Nearest main airport looks like Venice. Is there another / better option? If by car, how long from Venice airport if I hire a car?
The hotel. Is it worth staying on the premises or better to book a nearby hotel, in which case, which (would want it to have a gym)..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tropea317;2479716]Great to be back at Nhs and bigpharma are tracking you by exam on the girls tracking you perverts by the girls.
The virus in the air go and come.
The rooms are little no air.
With French kiss perfect virus transmission.
I wait to see the effect.
Already sell mrna plus nvax.
Buy t note 3025 and tbond 2045 betting on USD.
Good luck and farewell.
Pay attention at van with notarzt written go up and down in villach hospital.[/QUOTE]Wha do you meant? Are Wellcum, Goldentime and other FKKs collecting personal information about customers like real name and phone number for "contact tracing"?
[QUOTE=HectorG;2480636]Wha do you meant? Are Wellcum, Goldentime and other FKKs collecting personal information about customers like real name and phone number for "contact tracing"?[/QUOTE]No, Austria's clubs don't collecting personal information. Don't waste your time reading the troll who wrote a no sense message.
[QUOTE=HectorG;2480636]Wha do you meant? Are Wellcum, Goldentime and other FKKs collecting personal information about customers like real name and phone number for "contact tracing"?[/QUOTE]No, in Austria, you don't have to write name and phone like in Switzerland. But, I don't worry about writing in Switzerland.
[QUOTE=ChristianG;2480641]No, Austria's clubs don't collecting personal information. Don't waste your time reading the troll who wrote a no sense message.[/QUOTE]Thank you. I had feeling that was a troll post but I was taken back by the "senior member" label.
I'm not a troll.
I want to explain that Austrian NHS are really making right now a test on FKK, that are checking the health of the pros not the ID of the pervert.
Checking the girls make a theory on the health of the perverts.
That NHs and big Pharma are coworking.
That give the results to other nations of same cultural base.
Don't have to pay the girls.
Don't have to pay the perverts.
Is a cost free biological lab.
[QUOTE=Tropea317;2481011]I'm not a troll.
I want to explain that Austrian NHS are really making right now a test on FKK, that are checking the health of the pros not the ID of the pervert.
Checking the girls make a theory on the health of the perverts.
That NHs and big Pharma are coworking.
That give the results to other nations of same cultural base.
Don't have to pay the girls.
Don't have to pay the perverts.
Is a cost free biological lab.[/QUOTE]It is a bit hard to understand what you are writing.
So now, they are not tracking anyone then? Like you just wrote in your first post. They are just performing a study on the girls?
I came across this very intetesting story:
[URL]https://www.total-slovenia-news.com/politics/6882-govt-order-review-of-nova-gorica-slovenia-prostitution-ring-case[/URL]
So it seems the Slovenian Interior Ministry of State Franc Kangler is putting this on the agenda. Meaning the final word when it comes to Marina might not have been said.
Read:
'Kangler said the NBI, which worked on the case for several years, had forged documents, conducted house searches without warrants, monitored and photographed the lawyers of the defendants and illegally violated privacy.'
And as we all know, evidence gained through illegal conduct can not be used legally. For example the illegal violation of privacy. Which is part of an EU legal bill that came through in 2015 if I am not mistaken. Meaning, they have no valuable evidence of any P6 activity whatsoever. And if so is the case, then the owners of the club may actually both be allowed to reopen (once the covid-19 is over), and be able to take the NBI into court, and demand a hefty reimbursement.
I would be happy if Marina. Slo could open again, nothing about virus. Very beautiful club.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2482562]I would be happy if Marina. Slo could open again, nothing about virus. Very beautiful club.[/QUOTE]Fuck the Marina.
No health check.
Only good thing food plus the pool in summer.
The Austrian windows next to closing.
Yesterday almost 900 corona virus.
Will be a lonooong winter.
[QUOTE=Tropea317;2483086]Fuck the Marina.
No health check.
Only good thing food plus the pool in summer.
The Austrian windows next to closing.
Yesterday almost 900 corona virus.
Will be a lonooong winter.[/QUOTE]And few beautiful girls were at Marina, prettier than at Wellcum since 2018.
[QUOTE=Tropea317;2483086]Fuck the Marina.
No health check.
Only good thing food plus the pool in summer.
The Austrian windows next to closing.
Yesterday almost 900 corona virus.
Will be a lonooong winter.[/QUOTE]Enjoy the last weekend at Carintia FKK.
In my opinion Wellcum was always superior to Marina. But I did find 2 great girls at Marina when I visited. Either way, I wonder if there was a connection between Wellcum dropping the ball on new recruits at the same time Marina had to close. Thus leaving Wellcum with more of a monopoly in the area.
P, Agree. Marina was a high level club but, for me, not quite as good as W. But then, I think, overall for a relaxed club experience, W is in the Euro top three.
Girls will go where the good money / work is. Heard a lot about Globe girls mourning the lack of good clients recently.
Interesting that one W girl I sometimes WAp with is just finishing a two month tour in Scandia. In my opinion, quite a tall order for a 22 year old to go to a country never visited, without the local language, where sex work is heavily condemned (if not illegal) and set up on her own. Another girl I recognize has just popped up on the same site. With pics taken in the same room. So I am guessing the work is acceptably rewarding.
There are Romanian, Bulgarian, Hungarian, Colombian, Ukrainian girls in Scandinavia that would be top 5 in any FKK. But they can be hard to come by, and most ads on the various sites have fake pictures. Just last month I spotted a girl using the picture of a Bulgarian girl I know from DV and Oceans. So I thought, great! Finally there is something again! But the girl was totally another one who had just stolen the pictures of the girl I knew. You should know that cops cannot fine the girls working in Scandinavia. It is legal for them to sell. The illegal part is buying. But cops don't care if you are a local. They only go for tourists.
Many Globe girls and most of Romanians now at Globe are low level, should think about their behavior, about lack of clients. Yes, I often see Globe not crowded and already before virus, but who would pay Globe rate for such girls with such behavior with no elegance nor charm, most not even pretty, real lack of pretty faces but silicon. Only Swiss who are not demanding, like Italians at Wellcum, but when Italians make Wellcum business, Swiss are not enough for Globe.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2483558]In my opinion Wellcum was always superior to Marina. But I did find 2 great girls at Marina when I visited. Either way, I wonder if there was a connection between Wellcum dropping the ball on new recruits at the same time Marina had to close. Thus leaving Wellcum with more of a monopoly in the area.[/QUOTE]Big miss was no Andiamo nor Marina on this Summer when it was so difficult for me to find a attractive girl at Wellcum. Karla was good on July even not a wow look, but with charm and elegance, and fortunately for me, Anna really improved for behavior, becoming really friendly welcoming, and for level in bed on my 3 August visits, because nowhere else to go when preparing Zoncolan and bad weather. But I would have preferred to give a try at Andiamo and Marina, even I don't regret my second and third time with Anna, when discovery was average, nothing to run to repeat.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2484136], even I don't regret my second and third time with Anna, when discovery was average, nothing to run to repeat.[/QUOTE]Not sure what are saying here. So first time with her was not the best, but the 2nd and 3rd time was great? But even still, you don't want to repeat? Hmm?
[QUOTE=Pistons;2484459]Not sure what are saying here. So first time with her was not the best, but the 2nd and 3rd time was great? But even still, you don't want to repeat? Hmm?[/QUOTE]Discovery on Thursday 13 August was average. On Friday, I drove to Vienna. On Saturday, I was back at Wellcum arriving at noon. After our discovery, and because couldn't find any other attractive girl, turning around whole day, I returned to Anna later than midnight and we finished after club closed, with real improvement. Unfortunately, big rain on Sunday, so I returned on evening and third room with Anna. I enjoyed how she improved, when discovery was nothing to repeat, but she became really charming.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2484665]Discovery on Thursday 13 August was average. On Friday, I drove to Vienna. On Saturday, I was back at Wellcum arriving at noon. After our discovery, and because couldn't find any other attractive girl, turning around whole day, I returned to Anna later than midnight and we finished after club closed, with real improvement. Unfortunately, big rain on Sunday, so I returned on evening and third room with Anna. I enjoyed how she improved, when discovery was nothing to repeat, but she became really charming.[/QUOTE]Before going to her on Thursday, I looked at her for about 5 hours and she was not busy. No better look found, but no wow for her look and cold behavior, but when we started to chat, beautiful smile, beautiful teeth, and she listen to try to please. She became interesting for her new behavior. On Saturday, she was very busy, when I went to her after midnight after turning around for 12 hours after she smiled and said ciao several times, she was tired, and even club was closing, but she didn't want we rushed, we finished half hour after closing.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2484855]Before going to her on Thursday, I looked at her for about 5 hours and she was not busy.[/QUOTE]Non stop? I am impressed!
[QUOTE=Pistons;2484875]Non stop? I am impressed![/QUOTE]Not looking her in the eyes, but my meaning is when I arrived I went to eat and from 7 pm, I tried to find a attractive girl. I didn't. I saw her many times because she was really not busy on this Thursday evening, many guys went to speak with her but didn't go with her, so I thought: what is the problem? Close to midnight, no target, so I went to her, very cold first contact, but friendly in room. On Saturday, I spoke with some other girls, when she became smiling welcoming as soon she saw me with a ciao, but no need for me to repeat after average discovery and no wow for look with too heavy make up she doesn't need for me. But for 12 hours I was not able to find a attractive and kissing, among corona but I suck good. Many BF / pimp are named corona. So, just before closing, I went to her, we did joke and very welcoming, and real improvement in bed, really enjoyable, among really low level casting, far below GT Vienna on July and real down gap compare to 2017/2018.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2485056]Not looking her in the eyes, but my meaning is when I arrived I went to eat and from 7 pm, I tried to find a attractive girl. I didn't. I saw her many times because she was really not busy on this Thursday evening, many guys went to speak with her but didn't go with her, so I thought: what is the problem? Close to midnight, no target, so I went to her, very cold first contact, but friendly in room. On Saturday, I spoke with some other girls, when she became smiling welcoming as soon she saw me with a ciao, but no need for me to repeat after average discovery and no wow for look with too heavy make up she doesn't need for me. But for 12 hours I was not able to find a attractive and kissing, among corona but I suck good. Many BF / pimp are named corona. So, just before closing, I went to her, we did joke and very welcoming, and real improvement in bed, really enjoyable, among really low level casting, far below GT Vienna on July and real down gap compare to 2017/2018.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I was following the lineup at Veniamo when you went there. And it was only girls that had worked there in the past. And no new girls. Plus many were away. Seemed like a new batch of recruits started coming in one or two weeks after you visited. Now when I look at the names I don't even recognize half of them any longer. So things changes quickly. But why did you visit so soon after opening? You knew things take time to start rolling.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2485345]Yeah, I was following the lineup at Veniamo when you went there. And it was only girls that had worked there in the past. And no new girls. Plus many were away. Seemed like a new batch of recruits started coming in one or two weeks after you visited. Now when I look at the names I don't even recognize half of them any longer. So things changes quickly. But why did you visit so soon after opening? You knew things take time to start rolling.[/QUOTE]Reopening on beginning of July and I visited on mid July and mid August when I was not too far, because I will never drive from Paris for Wellcum level, when I may for GT. Many girls on my visits, but quantity is not quality and Wellcum fell since 2 years. Now plastic doll Darla was there on July and August. Remind me Angie becoming plastic.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2485477]Reopening on beginning of July and I visited on mid July and mid August when I was not too far, because I will never drive from Paris for Wellcum level, when I may for GT. Many girls on my visits, but quantity is not quality and Wellcum fell since 2 years. Now plastic doll Darla was there on July and August. Remind me Angie becoming plastic.[/QUOTE]I still believe her name is Daria and that she looked much better with darker hair as opposed to the reddish fake look. But maybe that's just me. I was never really keen on gingers anyway. Real nor fake. Every real ginger I've seen in my life always looks better if they change to blonde hair for some reason too. But gingers do have great skin. So a fake blonde real ginger can be fantastic in bed. But for Daria, black hair or very dark brown is the way to go it seems. Just more natural on her and fits her look more.
Silicone boobjobs are perfectly fine if you ask me. Some girls look fantastic with some enhancements there. It just sucks if they get too much and you can't get up close if it makes them scared of a squeeze. The botox industry on the other hand scares me much more.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2485822]I still believe her name is Daria and that she looked much better with darker hair as opposed to the reddish fake look. But maybe that's just me. I was never really keen on gingers anyway. Real nor fake. Every real ginger I've seen in my life always looks better if they change to blonde hair for some reason too. But gingers do have great skin. So a fake blonde real ginger can be fantastic in bed. But for Daria, black hair or very dark brown is the way to go it seems. Just more natural on her and fits her look more.[/QUOTE]Even she couldn't compete for level with Lena on August 2017, but Daria / la was much more cute for me with her beautiful small tits when I tried her before discovering Lena for who I visited Wellcum for 4 days.
The prettiest girl for me now at Wellcum is Flavia. I believe she has been there for awhile, but looks better than ever. She was also at Sharks at one point. Unfortunately she upsells a bit. Her two friends are also among the lookers at Wellcum now. Unfortunately Wellcum does not have many lookers for my taste right now, leaving the few with options to upsell more easily (sellers market).
The 2 Colombian girls Valentina and Martina with their south American Latina vibes and MILFy looks are probably the best in the room though. But they are not 18 any longer. I did not meet Elisa nor Desiree even if I see they worked the day after I left. These two MILFs would also add to the lineup. But aside from some top MILFs in the 30+ category, Wellcum suffers in the new recruitment of girls category.
I miss top girls like:
Coco.
Barbie (Angie).
Nia.
Elena.
Sara (rumors had it she would return, but maybe just rumors).
Soraya.
Natali (Hungarian).
Nadine.
Manuela.
Keira.
No silicon doll Daria? No who became really charming with small sweet manners Anna? For the club, Wellcum is one of the best, like was Marina. When I arrive, even I stopped before entering to take all my time to watch Carinthian masterpieces, but I go straight in the garden before anything else, not even looking at girls nor taking a drink, to clean my eyes and relax my mind, watching beauty around, Carinthians being small Dolomiti which are my dreamed land where I was so happy to have great time once again on this Summer. Unfortunately for me, Wellcum have now girls on Italian level and they are really not demanding. I miss Lena 2017 and Mila Marina who tried Wellcum. Mostly worth for restaurant to prepare Zoncolan for me, but lower level than GT Vienna for girls on this Summer.
Anna was there, but for me, she is not my type (height thing).
Daria had a week off when I was there. She was there a few days prior it seemed.
Sara seems to be back on the website now however. She would have been my favourite if she had been there.
Actually I miss the former Anna. Who was there about 18 months ago. Now that was a girl with passion! Very cute face, and jumped me like there was no tomorrow once in the room. I told her not to wait for me later that night. And I think she misunderstood me and figured I was not interested in a repeat. While what I really meant was I had to have a break some hours and was going to eat. So better for her to other rooms meanwhile. After that I didn't see her again that night and she was later gone when I returned. Not that I think I had anything to do with that. But she was something. Maybe the cutest girl in Wellcum ever. My friends agreed that day also.
The former Anna was maybe 21 or 22 years old, and was friends with Elisa and Desiree and the more MILFy group where she therefore was the youngest. She wasn't the slimmest girl around (but also not fat. More sexy in a way), but thus also extremely cute instead of having a 5 in fat percentage. I can imagine though if she had lost a few kg, she would have been even prettier than anyone else also. Maybe because she mainly had older friends, that was why she didn't stick around. I do not know, but I am sure Elisa and Desiree would have been great teachers for her. Touche.
Talked to a Globe girl who was doing apartment work in Villach this week.
Poor trade. Thinking about moving on.
Published for download on their website. Some happy memories.
[QUOTE=Dubner32;2524817]Talked to a Globe girl who was doing apartment work in Villach this week.
Poor trade. Thinking about moving on.[/QUOTE]Everything is dead with covid. Lets hope for better days soon. Maybe in may or June.
I don t bet a dime about a summer reopen.
The f* virus it s a mutant and harvest inside human bodies.
About the vaccine my old mama get Pfizer.
First shot OK.
Second shot the following day start tremble and got almost 39 degrees.
Blood pressure at 186/60 beat rate 88.
Call useless doctor take two Lasix.
Call ambulance 118 come 3 useless volunteers not a doctor.
In the afternoon pressure at 104/60 beat rate at 55 per minute.
So a shit night up and down to see if my mama get well.
Now mama recover.
So now I'm not that sure to get a shot.
A phone call to the doc.
Now they don't came to your home.
And on the TV I have to listen to this f* politicians about how is Italian nhs is so gooood, the best in the world.
Israel and USA Use their army.
So Italy politicians think ohh make the same.
But it s the Italian army you fuckers.
[QUOTE=Tropea317;2544545]I don t bet a dime about a summer reopen.
The f* virus it s a mutant and harvest inside human bodies.
About the vaccine my old mama get Pfizer.
First shot OK.
Second shot the following day start tremble and got almost 39 degrees.
Blood pressure at 186/60 beat rate 88.
Call useless doctor take two Lasix.
Call ambulance 118 come 3 useless volunteers not a doctor.
In the afternoon pressure at 104/60 beat rate at 55 per minute.
So a shit night up and down to see if my mama get well.
Now mama recover.
So now I'm not that sure to get a shot.[/QUOTE]Tirol fell under mutant after UK went to ski there, with now closed border with Bavaria, but same like on last Summer, heat which should arrive, will be more efficient on short term than missing vaccine. I think Austria should reopen on July like on 2020 , I doubt for Germany where elections to come. Very happy your mother is now fine, when I miss mine even nothing about virus, and now your mother should be protected. Think positive about this and enjoy with her. Medical is not exact science, doctors don t know much about virus, vaccines were made in hurry, we have to accept this and consequences, even can be painful.
I remember one year ago the casa carintia house master at the little city of feldkirchen.
He set the price from 155€ to 180.
Exactly just before the start of covid era.
What a king of business.
He must sell casa carintia and bet all in in the stock exchange.
At Wellcum and casa Carinthia is extra.
Licking balls. Extra.
Finger up the ass extra.
Kiss extra.
Make low Austria land of extras.
What about Andiamo in Villach now, is it open now or not? If not, any idea when will be open?
First I write the wrong price for casacarintia.
Old price was 130 euro.
New price set at 160.
For Andiamo we all are waiting for the reopening.
But the chances are little.
[QUOTE=Lordlord;2551065]What about Andiamo in Villach now, is it open now or not? If not, any idea when will be open?[/QUOTE]But it is not worth going there at all. Wellcum just has way more hot girls. And if you want a laid back more casual, less crowded Austrian FKK, then GT Linz is way above Andiamo too.
The meaning of we is we Italians.
For 90% of Italians more than 10 minutes car race from the border is like outland.
FKK Andiamo get well for ten years straight.
Millions of euro changed hands.
Then in 2014 came Wellcum.
Andiamo still good until 2015 maybe 2016.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2551241]But it is not worth going there at all. Wellcum just has way more hot girls. And if you want a laid back more casual, less crowded Austrian FKK, then GT Linz is way above Andiamo too.[/QUOTE]Andiamo was better for me on 2016 and 2019 than Wellcum, with prettier girls for my tastes. Didn't open on 2020 unfortunately, when new management on 2019, but wish for this Summer.
[QUOTE=Lordlord;2551065]What about Andiamo in Villach now, is it open now or not? If not, any idea when will be open?[/QUOTE]How can it be open if Austria is in Lockdown since the beginning of November 2020?!
But I understand how all the repetitive chatter about the FKKs may confuse some guys who are not familiar with it. Fact is that according to most recent news reports Austria will try to open things up again step by step nationwide starting on May 3rd 2021 at the latest. That said, make no mistake to think that this will include brothels. Brothels (FKKs are categorized as brothels and brothels are categorized as entertainment venues) will in all likelihood stay closed until June or July 2021. If I take the 2020 opening steps as precedent then the order might be as follows:
1. shops of all kinds.
2. restaurants and coffee shops approximately 4 weeks later.
3. service providers like hairdressers and such (but not sexworkers in brothels or massage parlors) at the same time as restaurants or followed closely 2 weeks after.
4. everything else finally including sexwork and therefore entertainment venues.
5. this is just my guess but I think judging by the vaccination progress that we are having now, even discotheques have a realistic chance to open again during the night as well in July 2021.
[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2552276]How can it be open if Austria is in Lockdown since the beginning of November 2020?!
But I understand how all the repetitive chatter about the FKKs may confuse some guys who are not familiar with it. Fact is that according to most recent news reports Austria will try to open things up again step by step nationwide starting on May 3rd 2021 at the latest. That said, make no mistake to think that this will include brothels. Brothels (FKKs are categorized as brothels and brothels are categorized as entertainment venues) will in all likelihood stay closed until June or July 2021. If I take the 2020 opening steps as precedent then the order might be as follows:
1. shops of all kinds.
2. restaurants and coffee shops approximately 4 weeks later.
3. service providers like hairdressers and such (but not sexworkers in brothels or massage parlors) at the same time as restaurants or followed closely 2 weeks after.
4. everything else finally including sexwork and therefore entertainment venues.
5. this is just my guess but I think judging by the vaccination progress that we are having now, even discotheques have a realistic chance to open again during the night as well in July 2021.[/QUOTE]Reopened on beginning of July on last Summer and no mask at GT or Wellcum.
[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2552276]How can it be open if Austria is in Lockdown since the beginning of November 2020?!
[/QUOTE]It looks like to me that lot of people didn't realize yet what has happened to the sex industry, how it was shut down in some countries like Austria and Germany and how much time is going to take to get back to what it was.
Sometimes I like to take a trip down on memory lane and look for brothel's websites and adresses and find them on google streets. I like to remember how it was walking on the streets of Vienna and have so many choices. Well, at one point I found a list of legit brothels made around late 2018 and early 2019 and started to watch those spots on google streets (whose images were taken on late 2019), and I was surprised to find how many of those places were closed in just half year. A normal year.
Now. Can you imagine what has happened to all those places, and of course to the girls working inside, in one and half year of Covid? Of course some girls worked with the "hausbesuche" option, of course FKK are more resilient than a cheap studio, but still: when the sex scene will open again it will be very different.
So you just have to be patient, wait, pay attention to what governments are going to do, wait, get a wide range of information on what is happening in certain cities, wait, understand how the sex market is going to restart itself and wait a little more.