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The Hanger-On
i think a crucial part of meeting women is negotiating the chaperone or "cousin" she brings with her. filipinas are social and don't typically do things by themselves. and yes, she doesn't know if you're a perv or a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126][CodeWord126][/url].
i think it's important to be assertive early. one friend is appropriate, not a whole gaggle of chickens looking for a free meal. you can meet at jollibee's mid-afternoon and limit it to a soda and an ice cream or fries.
you have to watch it, as my friend has warned me, that sometimes women will try to order for the entire family and take it with them.
before anybody brings any accusations of being "cheap," my attitude is that if we're in a relationship, then money is not an object. until then, i'm not going to throw money at strangers and moochers. if your initial meeting goes well, you might suggest she take something home, and you can order something specifically for the family. this is certainly appropriate on a second date.
i remember seeing a foreign guy at the mercedes hotel. he was the only white guy in a mob of a couple dozen filipinos. the guy didn't look too happy, and you know he was being taken advantage of by a swarm of relatives coming out of the woodwork to get free food and beer. don't let that be you.
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My Web Cam Girl
Well my last trip to PI got me in late as usual and before I left to go there I arranged for girl to meet me the next day at Mega Mall. She insisted on meeting me that night so I got in took shower and by now its 1AM I am tired from the flight. So I say what the. And call her and yup she on her way. So I lock up valuables and meet her downstairs in lobby. Within 20 min we are screwing like crazy and next morning she not want to leave and I just make excuse and said we meet later. Well later came and never meet and the hateful txt come. I am thinking gee you do the deeds 20 min after meeting me and now you want me for life. Sorry thanks for good time though.
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great story by blink earlier. i never had anything quite so bad happen, but the cutest little package i ever met came with a beefy, butch looking "sister".
miss cute cuddled with me in the frigid movie theater while butch sat a few rows back. i though i going to get lucky that night. later, as the sun set, i tried to seperate the two of them, but butch insisted i accompany them home. something just didn't seem right and i paid their transportation costs, said my goodbyes, and that was the end of that. miss cute never agreed to meet me alone, but had the gall to ask for money online.
sometimes it works and sometimes it doesnt.
one good experience was a lady who had strict family and couldn't go out alone -- even in the day. so, she'd arrive with a friend (there were two different ones i met). several times the three of us would eat and then the friend would disappear and me and the girl would go to the hotel. i did take the third wheel with us to beach one day, but it was the least i could do for her since she was such a good chaperone! :-)
i have to second sergeant's post below about assertiveness. as for the meeting i go for the food court or a coffee shop. i don't like jollibees and in some malls there are two jollibees (sm cebu)-- which could cause confusion.
other advice is always reconfirm the meeting and also tell them what you are wearing and ask what they are wearing.
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[quote=sergeantray]i think a crucial part of meeting women is negotiating the chaperone or "cousin" she brings with her. filipinas are social and don't typically do things by themselves. and yes, she doesn't know if you're a perv or a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126][CodeWord126][/url].
i think it's important to be assertive early. one friend is appropriate, not a whole gaggle of chickens looking for a free meal. you can meet at jollibee's mid-afternoon and limit it to a soda and an ice cream or fries.
you have to watch it, as my friend has warned me, that sometimes women will try to order for the entire family and take it with them.
before anybody brings any accusations of being "cheap," my attitude is that if we're in a relationship, then money is not an object. until then, i'm not going to throw money at strangers and moochers. if your initial meeting goes well, you might suggest she take something home, and you can order something specifically for the family. this is certainly appropriate on a second date.
i remember seeing a foreign guy at the mercedes hotel. he was the only white guy in a mob of a couple dozen filipinos. the guy didn't look too happy, and you know he was being taken advantage of by a swarm of relatives coming out of the woodwork to get free food and beer. don't let that be you.[/quote]
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DIA Girls
Beware of the DIA girls. They are not that innocent. They know the way of the world. Philippine economy being what it is these girls have found out it is easy to get money from foreigners by crying poverty, diserace, hungry, no job, no money etc. If you into donating it is ok. But the chances that the girl will meet you and screw you silly is not the norm. I am sure some will do in the sense that she can have a ready sponsor who will send money every month. What i have found is,
1. All the good looking women are cam models
2. Few of them are regular pros.
3. Ugly ones I have not tried. Got lucky couple of times with decent looking ones. But lot of hassle to get in their pants. In a country like PHI where you can go to the corner bar and pick a girl maybe it is too much of a hassle to get laid.
4. If a girl wants to meet you and want money for the ticket offer to send the ticket not the money.
5. If you are serious and settling down with a girl go to her place and check out.
6. Ignore all money requests saying you never send money online. If she goes to bed with youy make sure you pay , that way there will not be any strings attached. When they refuse money buy clothes and like so that atleast she and you feel better.
7. More of you send money more of the girls will come out of the woodwork looking for money.
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Sammon's very negative post, despite being rather sad, should be read by newbies -- and shared with any friends who plan to chat/visit in the Philippines.
I knew a government accountant - a professional - who said some of her friends quit their regular jobs because the chat/cam/ marriage/ maybe scam business provided more opportunities. I don't know what jobs the friends had....but this has become big business.
Sammon might be wrong to overgeneralize about DIA girls. I haven't used this site, but some people recommend it. Just use with caution as you would with any stranger you meet on the Internet.
Don't send money to anyone you don't know well.
On the positive side, this is an indirect form of foreign aid. If you send money to some scammer overseas, you should claim it as a donation on your tax forms.
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[QUOTE=Sammon]Beware of the DIA girls. They are not that innocent. They know the way of the world. Philippine economy being what it is these girls have found out it is easy to get money from foreigners by crying poverty, diserace, hungry, no job, no money etc. If you into donating it is ok. But the chances that the girl will meet you and screw you silly is not the norm. I am sure some will do in the sense that she can have a ready sponsor who will send money every month. What i have found is,
1. All the good looking women are cam models
2. Few of them are regular pros.
3. Ugly ones I have not tried. Got lucky couple of times with decent looking ones. But lot of hassle to get in their pants. In a country like PHI where you can go to the corner bar and pick a girl maybe it is too much of a hassle to get laid.
4. If a girl wants to meet you and want money for the ticket offer to send the ticket not the money.
5. If you are serious and settling down with a girl go to her place and check out.
6. Ignore all money requests saying you never send money online. If she goes to bed with youy make sure you pay , that way there will not be any strings attached. When they refuse money buy clothes and like so that atleast she and you feel better.
7. More of you send money more of the girls will come out of the woodwork looking for money.[/QUOTE]
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ages
i've noticed a lot of girls on dia (and perhaps other sites as well) are much younger than the 18 or so they list themselves as. not sure if this is just my experience or not... i'm planning my first trip to the phils sometime over the next few months and am a bit worried about hooking up with someone only to find out when we meet she's a young teenager. often hard to tell because they all look a lot younger than western girls the same age. same with the bar scene, i suppose...i would imagine there are still a lot of **** girls claiming to be 18+ in angeles, manila and elsewhere...
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[quote=gaijin gigolo]i've noticed a lot of girls on dia (and perhaps other sites as well) are much younger than the 18 or so they list themselves as. not sure if this is just my experience or not... i'm planning my first trip to the phils sometime over the next few months and am a bit worried about hooking up with someone only to find out when we meet she's a young teenager. often hard to tell because they all look a lot younger than western girls the same age. same with the bar scene, i suppose...i would imagine there are still a lot of **** girls claiming to be 18+ in angeles, manila and elsewhere...[/quote]
i havae found same on dia but easy to spot as amavida said, they are not good at mental arithmetic. i aks get chatting and aks when their birthday is etc and soon enough you will spot some errors
try it and you will see
also many have fake ids and yopu have no chance of knowing of fake unless or until you are examining the goods so to speak :)
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You're right
I have friend in ac that I have known for a long time and she pointed out a girl that was in the more "well known New bar" that was only 16 (cherry girl) I was like you serrious! She said that girl got her auntie birth certificate and records and claim to be her for I. D. And presto you have legal I. D. Her I. D. Says she is 20. Make you wonder how many others do this. Its more common than not I suppose for I have even heard girls getting a passport in theres Auntie or cousins name to work abroad or marry some foreign guy. The best advice is if you feel uncomfortable its better to move on to next whom you feel comfortable with. Better to be safe than sorry.
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Chat rooms and pen pals
Could we please move back to more relevant issues to the "chat rooms and pen pals" section?
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**** girls on dia is very relevant to the chat rooms and pen pals section. anyone else finding the same problem of **** girls online passing themselves off as dates?
[quote=x man]could we please move back to more relevant issues to the "chat rooms and pen pals" section?
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[quote=gaijin gigolo]**** girls on dia is very relevant to the chat rooms and pen pals section. anyone else finding the same problem of **** girls online passing themselves off as dates?[/quote]
x man it is relevant if a monger gets caught or scammed. the newbies need educating.
but this is the chat room section so a few links to the photo section of 2 chat girls i have been 'seeing' recently.
enjoy
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=745121&postcount=1174[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=745119&postcount=1173[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=745118&postcount=1172[/url]
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When in Rome...
[QUOTE=Blink157]hi to all,
glad I made you laugh, but its a true story :D
Robbaf, you know I think I was like you before, but now that Im living on site, no more of this. From all the online ladies I met, they all pros, looking for a sugar daddy. If you have money ,they stay with you, if not, they gone in that moment your money is gone. I could tell endless storys of this. YOu not the only one they gona meet. Those "ladies" are all somehow involved in some red-light-district-p4p business, so if you really looking for a potantial wife or similar to that. Look somewhere else.
Exceptions are those gurls you met in person and in real and get to know them better and whats more important, get to know their family better.
How to meet them? Its easy. PI is full of them and as long you not looking for upperclas hi society gurl (but even that can work ) you will find yourself spoiled with so many offers of real working gurls.
My buddy here has together with his GF now for 8 years. He broought her tru university and now she has her own job and all her money went to her family. She wont ask my fren for any extras or so. Thats one of the reason Im dated her sis which is now one of my GF :D...a nice innocent student who loves me as the person I am.I was her first REAL boyfren...
Not sure if Im back next weekend in ac, cause I have a busy week. I will let my AC gf come over to see me, then my other GF will come on SAT, hope by this time my AC GF is back home. We have birthday party on sunday and my friends GF invite her office mates. We tell them only to bring gurls, if any guys come, I just put them in my room and they can watch basketball while Im vieing a victoria secret lingerie show with my buddy, cause thats one part of our party. specially those "normal" gurls like to drink Tequila.
Life is good! LG!
Happy hunting
Blink[/QUOTE]
I really enjoyed your story as well, but I think that the girl's behavior was very reasonable. After all when the girl showed up to escort her sister, you swapped one sister for the other. That takes some balls, but if the girl is smart she know whomever she brings could be her competition. So being smart, she showed up with the ugliest, poorest escort she could find AND the daughter, thus fulfilling the cultural tradition and covering her interest.
Also, when the 'auntie' switches the channel to a show you obviously can't watch, it could reflect a complete lack of manners or it could be she was giving you an excellent opportunity to take your young lovely into another room where you could talk and "get to know each other." ;) After all, if you can't watch the show, your date is hard-pressed to ask you to stay in that room.
IMHO, girls from the Philippines as well as other parts of Asia sometimes regard it as appropriate if not expected to bring a friend on a first date. I've seen it happen with well off Thai, and Indonesian girls who were here in the US studying as well. If you don't want it to happen talk about it in advance or go to someplace low key and in expensive. You may not have great luck getting a properly raises girl from the provinces to meet you at your hotel alone unless she has met a few other western men in their hotel room before and is comfortable with it. So it might be a good approach if you are looking to get laid, but not a priority for an ongoing or long term relationships.
I don't have any experience with DIA, but I've noticed that there is a big difference in the number of "gold diggers" on different sites. I am in my 40's and have found a lot of the teen and early 20's who approached me on FH were very money focused while the mid 20's and above were more interested in relationships. I suspect that if I was younger and better looking I would have more genuine interest among the youngsters.
First dates set a tone for relationships, so if I was interested in seeing a lady again as something other than a sugar daddy, I wouldn't take her to a mall buy them cloths or jewelry on the first date.
Regards
Robert
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Relevant?
[QUOTE=X Man]Could we please move back to more relevant issues to the "chat rooms and pen pals" section?
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The whole discussion thread would appear to be about younger age girls using Chat Rooms and Penpal sites such as DIA, CB etc and is IMHO very relevant. It is also a very big problem in Phils as more of the younger girls catch on to the ''money making methods'' available to them via Chat Rooms etc.
A lot use the money to fund further education and are often ''in between'' high school and college - a dangerous age as far as some Mongers are concerned.
[QUOTE=X Man]Great story by Blink earlier. I never had anything quite so bad happen, but the cutest little package I ever met came with a beefy, butch looking "sister".
Miss cute cuddled with me in the frigid movie theater while butch sat a few rows back. I though I going to get lucky that night. Later, as the sun set, I tried to seperate the two of them, but butch insisted I accompany them home. Something just didn't seem right and I paid their transportation costs, said my goodbyes, and that was the end of that. Miss cute never agreed to meet me alone, but had the gall to ask for money online.
Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesnt.
One good experience was a lady who had strict family and couldn't go out alone -- even in the day. So, she'd arrive with a friend (there were two different ones I met). Several times the three of us would eat and then the friend would disappear and me and the girl would go to the hotel. I did take the third wheel with us to beach one day, but it was the least I could do for her since she was such a GOOD chaperone! :-)
I have to second Sergeant's post below about assertiveness. As for the meeting I go for the Food Court or a coffee shop. I don't like Jollibees and in some malls there are TWO Jollibees (SM Cebu)-- which could cause confusion.
Other advice is always reconfirm the meeting and also tell them what you are wearing and ask what they are wearing.
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Of course this post was entirely relevant too ;)
Cheers, F/Fifty
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dcand 4 was referring to a girl in an ac bar. not relevant. x
[quote=gaijin gigolo]**** girls on dia is very relevant to the chat rooms and pen pals section. anyone else finding the same problem of **** girls online passing themselves off as dates?[/quote]
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w/e
Perhaps next time you need to specify who you're talking about to avoid confusion. I wasn't referring to any previous post. My post is just as relevant as anything on here, perhaps even more so than most. But the first three of us who saw your comment thought you were talking about my posting.
[QUOTE=X Man]DCand 4 was referring to a girl in an AC bar. Not relevant. X[/QUOTE]