Thor,
Thanks for these comments. Good insight, interesting perspective on the smaller club vs the big boys in FFM.
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Thor,
Thanks for these comments. Good insight, interesting perspective on the smaller club vs the big boys in FFM.
I was in this club (Schieferhof) last Friday. They were having a "Beach Party" theme and all the girls were in Bikinis with lais around their neck. They had a barbecue going in the back yard, but still had the excellent buffet set up in the food room.
I went with 3 girls. Started with Svenja (German), who has been there for almost 3 years now. I always thought she was about 28 or so, but she is only 22. She doesn't look that much older, but somehow I always thought she was older. Her service is excellent. Extensive and excellent Deep French Kissing followed by a nice BJ and ball licking on the couch. Then we headed to the room, where it continued. This girl really kisses well. The only complaint I had was that she had just eaten some sort of potato chips, because there was a hint of that on her breath. She audibly and physically enjoyed me going down on her, and reciprocated with an excellent Blowjob. We finished in Doggy. She has a thin upper body, a bit of a wider thin butt, I used to think it was a bit flabby, but when I was lined up behind it doggy, it was quite nice.
Then I went with a Tunisian hotty named Ina. She has exactly the sort of body I like, tight and tone and slim. Nice breasts, good looking face. She kissed well (but not as insanely well as Svenja) and really enjoyed me going down on her. When I started to rim her, she gladly placed her heels behind her ears to give me full access. Her BJ was good, and lining up behind that perfect ass in doggy was amazing.
I had to go, I had to pick my Girlfriend up from the airport, but I still wanted a third girl. I was looking for one who would just give me a world class blowjob, didn't even want sex. I was looking for the turkish girl who welcomed me at the door, but she was not available. I thought of going with one of the other girls I had gone with before, but none had blown me away in their BJ ability. Then I picked a young German /Russian girl named Ines. She was thin, with a bit of a puffed up belly, with her hair pulled back and a piercing in her tongue. she looked like a dirty cute chick. She is new to the club, only been there for 2 weeks, worked a couple of appartments in Cologne for the 2 months before that.
I enjoyed her very nice and smooth pussy with a whisp of blonde hair on it. Then she moved to a mediocre BJ, which was too fast, and at times a little painful. I told her to slow down, which she did, but it wasn't getting that much better. She then asked me whether I wanted "with or without condom".
Given that the BJ was already in progress I was not sure why she was asking the question. I asked for clarification, and she told me she meant for sex. That is true, this girl was offering Bareback sex. I was disgusted. I had heard rumours that it happens at this club, but thought it was folklore. The strange thing was this girl wouldn't do Cum in Mouth - Genius this girl (The CIM is because she also doesn't like it in her private sex life). I couldn't really get into it anymore after that.
This club has had an influx of about 6 new girls in the past two months, and all of them are young and between reasonably and very pretty. But the Everything uncovered makes me a little worried, and I won't be going down as much here anymore. I guess they think all the over 60 customers are relatively safe, but I am half that age.
at Hof was a big issue in the german Roemerforum just two weeks ago.
It seems to be sure that it is available for an uplift.
Whatever you think now, remember that they are doing that with everyone who is willing to pay the extra money.
Not a real safe thing...
Have fun,
but better elsewhere,
Novize
In 7 visits to this club and probably 20 sessions this was the first time that any sort of no condom thing was mentioned. I had heard it from a provider who worked there years ago, but I thought it was urban legend.
When she asked me I started getting worried about having gone down on her. If it really is that prevalent I nmight just completely avoid this club in the future. Shame, there are some nice girls, it just seems too risky, especially given how much I enjoy going down on girls.
Has anyone been here lately? What is the level of talent during the holidays? I was there in May and it was very good. I will be back early September and would like to enjoy another great day.
Bob
I was there Friday. I was certainly not disappointed.
Mara was there. She is currently my favorite. Her and a girls named Sandy, who I have not had any experience with, did a session together with some guy right on the couches. At the end, they put their faces together, opened their mouths, stuck out their tongues, and let him shoot all over their faces.
Quite a show.
There were at least five girls there who I know from personal experience are top-notch. Mara, Katja, Tanja, Jesse, and Svenja. I did three sessions, Mara, Katja, and Svenja. All quite excellent, as I have come to expect from them.
Stimpson
I went to Bernd’s Sauna Club last Wednesday night, arriving around 9.30pm. I thought I would follow Mahaba’s advice and go there just for a comparison, and I was not disappointed.
There are two things to note: Firstly the opening hours are only 1pm to midnight five nights a week, so don’t go there on a weekend (in fact it shuts at 1am on Friday nights). All the girls normally work a 9 hour shift, so if you want to see the most girls plan to be there between 3pm and 10pm.
And secondly, the 50 Euro price for half an hour includes swallowing at no extra charge! Way-heyyyy!
Without wishing to dis Wizard’s directions, this is how I would describe how to get there: Drive south on the A3 from Cologne. Take the A560 autobahn eastwards until it runs into the B8. Go up the B8 about 5km (most of this is uphill). Miss the first right hand signpost saying “Lichtenberg”, and take the second, which is a very sharp right, almost coming back on yourself. Go 1km until you see the Hotel-Restaurant Reuter. Almost immediately turn left into Schieferhof Street. Number 28 is down on the right. Park in number 24.
During my visit I only had time to have sex with two girls. The first one was called Barbara or Babsi for short. She is an attractive blond of 42, but I have been with many girls in their late twenties who have looked older than Babsi! So she is young looking, intelligent and knows what she is doing. She is highly recommended by me, I just don’t know why no one has mentioned her before on this forum, as she has worked there for years (she takes Mondays off).
Bolstered by my positive experience with Babsi, I chose another young looking tall blond. This time it was a 21 year old Latvian called Vicky who said it was her second day there. Just on this evidence alone I should have avoided her, but by 11.20pm everyone was picking their girl for the last shag of the night, so the choice was limited. Sure enough, 2 minutes into our session she told me I had to hurry up! Don’t you just hate that? I damn well made sure that I fucked her hard for 20 minutes and then came in her mouth at the end just to try and educate her in the ways of customer service!
All in all, I recommend to take Mahaba’s advice and go there just for a comparison. Have fun.
KingW,
Thanks for the report. Nice to have a fresh view and your driving directions seem well written, clear and most useful!
Tell me, can you compare the quality of and the beauty/sexiness level of the girls at Bernd's to what one might find at , say, Oase or Palce or PHG or Goldentime? How would you rate most of the girls at this club on a scale of 1 to 10? I give the average level of girl at the Frankfurt clubs to be an 8. Can you say honestly that the level compares to Frankfurt? I know the 42-year old Babsi must have been good, but that is a far cry from the kind of selection one might find in, say, Palace or Oase or PHG, no?
Ortos,
Thanks for the question. First of all, let me just say that the only fkk clubs I have been to are World and Oase. I have also been to fkk-Prague, but that place does not deserve to be called an fkk in my opinion, as it is rubbish.
Anyway, to try to answer your question I have only been to Bernd’s once and I only saw half a dozen girls and only had sex with two of them. My feeling is that the girls there are just as good-looking or sexy as in World or Oase, but maybe they are slightly older. Or maybe I am just being influenced by Babsi? Obviously, statistically you are more likely to find a girl who matches your “ideal” criteria in a larger club.
On the question of age, I have always found that “younger” providers are not normally as good as more mature girls. In practice this means I normally avoid girls under the age of 21 or 22 and tend to go for girls over the age of 25. I am 38, by the way. Obviously I break my own rules from time to time. Having sex with Vicky was an example. One reason why I fucked her hard for 20 minutes (it was an ungentlemanly thing to do) was that I knew in advance I was taking a risk and so mentally prepared myself beforehand not to let her spoil the session.
So, to summarise, you give the Frankfurt clubs an 8. Well, I would give the girls in Bernd’s a 7 for looks (as they are a bit older) and a 9 for performance and satisfaction. And all mongerers know what’s more important.
If you were to ask me if I would go back, then the answer would be “not automatically”, the reason being that Oase and World have more to offer as they are larger. On the other hand, being able to finish in a girl’s mouth at no extra charge is quite a unique selling point.
I visited today from 1:30 - 3:30 PM, and had a pretty good time. The place had just opened at 1:00 PM and there was already a good sized afternoon crowd.
Here is what I liked about it:
1. Free Beer
2. Free snaks include peanut M&Ms
3. 50 Euros gets you a GFE, DFK, Couch action, BBBJ, CIM, AR, Swallow, Good attitude.
The girls name was "Brandy".
I was told that the majority of the girls are very talented, and good service is the club standard.
The place is much smaller than the "Big" FKK's, and more low-key.
The only downside was the 1.5 hour drive from Frankfurt, and they are closed on weekends. If you live in Cologne then your pretty close.
My personal feeling, after frequenting Oase, Palace, World, Atlantis (sigh), is that "Bernd's" is my new favorite because I like the girls there better.
Regards,
Mahaba
[QUOTE=Kingwenslas]Sure enough, 2 minutes into our session she told me I had to hurry up! Don’t you just hate that? I damn well made sure that I fucked her hard for 20 minutes and then came in her mouth at the end just to try and educate her in the ways of customer service![/QUOTE]
Of course her behaviour would have been worth complaining at the reception. Especially at Bernd´s, this would have shown a result very soon.
Behaviour like yours surely won´t "educate" any girl. It´s just unpolite and contemptuous. And, btw, if the girl didn´t agree, it´s liable for prosecution in Germany.
Have fun, but do it the right way,
Novize
Well, I would suggest, if a girl offers CIM that is a big concern. As she is completely exposed to all bodily fluid infections and its very easy to transmit infections into one's mouth.
I am quite alarmed at the amount of guys in these forums that openly suggest they give oral sex to pro workers. I'd suggest you might finger bang them with a condom on your finger, have hetro sex protected, but thats as close as you should get to handling their genitals.
Importantly, if u are going down on a girl you are about 10 times more prone to receiving an infection than by having bareback sex. The penis is actually quite resilient whereas the mouth is very open to infection/transmission of bodily fluids.
To receive HIV thru hetro sex with penis/vagina is actually quite hard. Basically, the blood transmission/infection actually has to make its way down the eye of the penis into your system (although NSU, Clymid, Gnor, herpies are all easilly transmitted to the top of the penis - these can all be transmitted if you give oral sex).
However, that is where Anal sex becomes decidedly more risky, as there is a high % of tearing skin tissue on both persons which leads to blood transimission and high risk of infection. Hence when u see a Dr they will ask you many times about have u participated in Anal sex, additionally why there was such an explosion thru the gay community in the 80's.
I studied sports medicine for a while and understand the risks of transmission and have consulted Doctor's about such things when I have had tests.
Basically, it only takes one rotten apple to spoil the whole bunch.
Guys, I'd just suggest to be very wary of girls who CIM or do bareback. But I'd be even more smart and not undertake such risky activities as 69 or giving oral sex to pro workers.
If you think about the multiplier affect, if u have sex with one woman who is a pro worker - she might have sex with 500 guys at least a year...think about how many girls/guys those people have had sex with, then who they have had sex with...etc...it can in all probablility be millions.
In essence, is a couple months/years of infection problems worth 15 mins of fame with a girl u are paying for sex? I consider not. I believe have some great safe fun, act out your fantasies, but be smart not stupid.
[QUOTE=Peter]I was in this club (Schieferhof) last Friday. They were having a "Beach Party" theme and all the girls were in Bikinis with lais around their neck. They had a barbecue going in the back yard, but still had the excellent buffet set up in the food room.
I went with 3 girls. Started with Svenja (German), who has been there for almost 3 years now. I always thought she was about 28 or so, but she is only 22. She doesn't look that much older, but somehow I always thought she was older. Her service is excellent. Extensive and excellent Deep French Kissing followed by a nice BJ and ball licking on the couch. Then we headed to the room, where it continued. This girl really kisses well. The only complaint I had was that she had just eaten some sort of potato chips, because there was a hint of that on her breath. She audibly and physically enjoyed me going down on her, and reciprocated with an excellent Blowjob. We finished in Doggy. She has a thin upper body, a bit of a wider thin butt, I used to think it was a bit flabby, but when I was lined up behind it doggy, it was quite nice.
Then I went with a Tunisian hotty named Ina. She has exactly the sort of body I like, tight and tone and slim. Nice breasts, good looking face. She kissed well (but not as insanely well as Svenja) and really enjoyed me going down on her. When I started to rim her, she gladly placed her heels behind her ears to give me full access. Her BJ was good, and lining up behind that perfect ass in doggy was amazing.
I had to go, I had to pick my Girlfriend up from the airport, but I still wanted a third girl. I was looking for one who would just give me a world class blowjob, didn't even want sex. I was looking for the turkish girl who welcomed me at the door, but she was not available. I thought of going with one of the other girls I had gone with before, but none had blown me away in their BJ ability. Then I picked a young German /Russian girl named Ines. She was thin, with a bit of a puffed up belly, with her hair pulled back and a piercing in her tongue. she looked like a dirty cute chick. She is new to the club, only been there for 2 weeks, worked a couple of appartments in Cologne for the 2 months before that.
I enjoyed her very nice and smooth pussy with a whisp of blonde hair on it. Then she moved to a mediocre BJ, which was too fast, and at times a little painful. I told her to slow down, which she did, but it wasn't getting that much better. She then asked me whether I wanted "with or without condom".
Given that the BJ was already in progress I was not sure why she was asking the question. I asked for clarification, and she told me she meant for sex. That is true, this girl was offering Bareback sex. I was disgusted. I had heard rumours that it happens at this club, but thought it was folklore. The strange thing was this girl wouldn't do Cum in Mouth - Genius this girl (The CIM is because she also doesn't like it in her private sex life). I couldn't really get into it anymore after that.
This club has had an influx of about 6 new girls in the past two months, and all of them are young and between reasonably and very pretty. But the Everything uncovered makes me a little worried, and I won't be going down as much here anymore. I guess they think all the over 60 customers are relatively safe, but I am half that age.[/QUOTE]
Kingw,
Not the way to treat a girl. If you had broken it off there and complained at the breast, the girl might have been asked to leave the club. 2 customer complaints about any girls and she is asked to leave and not come back.
also the CIM is not a given for any girl. The rule is that if a girl offers CIM, then it has to be in the price of 50€ for the session, but if she doesn't offer, then that is her prerogative.
Was able to squeeze in a day at Bernd's. What a day. Went with a delightful lady named Babsi. She was fantastic. We talked for some time on a couch. She was not in a rush for the room and we had a really nice talk. I was ready before she said anything. She has lived all over the world and has a very interesting story.
Went later with a young girl from Greece. She was young and inexperienced. My mistake.
This is still one of my favorite places. The cost of one day is high so I like to make it a long day. I have arrived around 1:00 and stay until around 8:00 to maximize the time. Also the train schedule back to Cologne is good to around 11:00 at night.
There is a lot of couch action if you want. I enjoyed a bit and then the break is nice as we head to the room. There is not all that much to do between sessions, but the ambiance is good.
Fly Bob,
I have always drove to Bernds from Frankfurt, and the traffic can get bad at times. If I take a train to Cologne, how do I get to Bernds after arriving at the Cologne train station?
Thanks,
Mahaba