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Forgive my ignorance, but what city is PHG near? I know it is the Rhine area, but what city is it near? Or perhaps a better question would be how far is it from Kaiserslautern? I'm trying to find a place that is at least close to where I'm at, and having difficulty. Any help guys?
V
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Valmont :
PHG is 20 km north of Monchengladbach, that is to say a good 3 hour drive from Kaiserslautern. For exact adress check kaleu's website.
Frans
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PHG is near Düsseldorf or Krefeld. Pretty far away from Kaiserslautern. Never been to Kaiserslautern, but I have not read too much about action in that area. If you are in the Army (there are some around there) see how you can catch a ride to Ray Barracks, which is less than 10KM from the Oase (Near Frankfurt)
Peter
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Anybody know current prices and quality of material at PHG?
Any info will be appreciated, thanks!
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PHG has the same price structure they have had since the Euro was introduced:
50€ Entrance
25€ for a session Covered BJ & Full Sex
+25€ for uncovered BJ
+25€ each additional 30 minutes
Not sure about extras, rarely book them.
Right now PHG is getting the best reviews, for quantitiy and quality of women. I don't really like the club that much. I don't like the atmosphere, and I find the ladies a bit old for my taste, but most people are really impressed by the place at the moment.
Peter
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Peter,
With Atlantis getting mixed reviews right now, what is your fave club? Oase? Just curious.
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I haven't ever really been an Atlantis fan, but I recommend it to newbies because it has the most WOW! factor.
All clubs are getting mixed reviews at the moment. The economy here is really bad and it is keeping club traffic down, which is causing many women to reassess their career choices.
Atlantis and Oase still have about 40 girls on a good night, that should be enough for any man I have ever met. Some of the negative reports also result overexposure. They have gotten used to having 60+ top ladies and now with only 40 and a few less top quality Eastern Europeans they think it has all gone to hell.
I have been relatively disappointed by my club visits in the last 4 months. I haven't come across any Mascha's, Lucy's, or Deniz's in quite a while. Girls who deliver an experience so miles above anything else that you are disappointed by everything underneath that. I have a couple of girls with whom I get along very well. they work at Wildenrath, Fantasyland and Oase, I tend to frequent those girls over and over again. Every once in a while I like to try out a new club and see what sort of talent is there. I know that this is very hit and miss, and that is a large part of the appeal for me.
I like experiencing the differing atmospheres of the different clubs and am not that upset if it is not a great new experience. Right now the tendency in the german forums is that PHG is considered the best club at the moment. As I have said, it is not really my favourite club, but my taste and general public opinion are often different. If you are in the Köln/Düsseldorf area I would recommend Happy Garden, but I wouldn't drive 3 hours from Frankfurt to get there.
I am also still quite partial to Fantasyland in Gorgeshausen (halfway between Frankfurt and Düsseldorf. I am also excited about the new club opening up in Giessen, maybe that will have the best talent.
It is impossible to say where you will have the best time. I for example am going to go to one of the cheap Red Carpet Clubs tonight, because I want some cheap sex. Next week I plan on going to the opening of the new club (free entry), but if I don't like the atmosphere there I will head for either Atlantis/Oase or Fantasyland. If I spend more time in Frankfurt I might go to an innercity club there called Köbe because I heard the cute little Mercedes from Relax is now working there.
I know this answer didn't help, but I hope it explains why I don't like to pigeon-hole my answers and preferences.
Peter
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There was a large Internet Summit at Planet Happy Garden Yesterday. I finally met Kaleu (real nice guy) and quite a few guys from Dexter Horn (Haven't posted there in forever). That was the good part of the evening...
After yesterdays experience I would call PHG Paradise for Homo's and Gays.
There were at least 60 guys there and they claimed 27 girls. there were long spells when I counted more thn 35 guys in the bar and for a 15 minute stretch not one single woman. There were only 2 girls there who appealed to my taste and they were continually booked.
Maja, a really skinny girly type, got booked for over 2 hours with the fattest ugliest guy I have ever seen in a club. Me and this other guy were both waiting outside the room for her, she had another reservation before us, and then looking at the watch meant we wouldn't both have enough time.
After 4 hours in the club I left without one single session. I went to Wildenrath where I had a great time.
I was very dissapointed in PHG. they claimed 8-10 girls didn't show up, but they kept letting guys in, including large groups. They also let about 10 girls leave at 10 PM. I know they can't force them to stay if they have been working the early shift, but when the place looks so much like a gay sauna club they should have done something, even if it had just been to stop letting more people in.
I complained quite openly, but was not very happy about the counter womans reaction. I aksed if she could call Wildenrath to see if that place had a better ratio, she wouldn't, she just had Silvia let me know that there are normally 15 girls there. I already knew that.
I have never had a good time at PHG, but this time was the worst on the woman front that I have ever experienced. I really liked meeting the large english speaking internet contingent, but I didn't need to pay 50€ entrance to meet you.
Peter
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First of all, it was nice to meet you Peter!
Oh oh, poor boy ;)
I guess I had better luck than you on this "gay party" (I would simply consider it as busy day, as it can happen there on many Fridays and Saturdays) with my three sessions. Of course, frankly speaking our taste regarding girls is totally different and on that night I was lucky regarding exotic girls.
Anyway Peter, I agree to you, they shouldn't let in any new guys, when a certain girl:men ratio is not given anymore.
cu
kaleu
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Guys,
Thanks for your info. Interesting report on your night at PHG...I agree that having to wait in line for a girl definitely detracts from the experience... can't imagine paying entrance and then not even having one go...seems like one should get their money back if there is nothing available, but a money back guarantee is the one thing you'll never get in this business! Actually knew a guy who once couldn't perform in Amsterdam and demanded his money back...he flew at least 5 meters out of that kamer...quite impressive.
I am always looking for good clubs in the Ruhr/Rhein area since I live close to Dortmund and Frankfurt is too far away to visit regularly. As always, keep the good info coming.
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@Kaleu
I had a great time at Wildenrath, but there was nothing there for you. Mina was the darkest thing there. About the complaint with no kissing I talked to Nadeen and she told me that for the 50€ session kissing is standard. She said that it is not part of the 25€ package, but that all girls shopuld kiss for 50€. I get very deep kisses from Beate and Monica. I saw Mina and Romy kiss clients. It was quite full so I even saw quite a bit of couch action upstairs. But as I said before, 100% European Stock.
@Doctor
Why don'T you try some of the Red Carpet Clubs along the A40. They are cheap and some have a good selection of girls. I did fine in Bochum Freudenbergstr, and there are some very good reports on Arabella. The addresses are all listed in ads in the BILD newspaper.
If you are in Dortmund and willing to put in a little over a one hour drive I would try Park Schloss dali in Marsberg. It is 1 hour from Dortmund towards Soest and then through the countryside. It is a really big old convent with amazing facilities. The quality of women can vary, but the set up is great. The new club in Giessen should also be within 80 minutes of dortmund as well (Takes about as long to get to as Happy Garden.
Peter
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@peter
I know Mina, she is also working at Tag & Nacht Cafe in Mönchengladbach from time to time. I liked her looks, but my friend JF had a session with her and his reporting after the session was a 100% no go for me.
cu
kaleu
PS: Kissing@Wildenrath: I was there the last time in December and a friend who was with me, had problems in finding girls who kiss. There is maybe a little discrepancy between "Rule and Reality" (and no, he doesn't have a problem with his dentist ;) )
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Peter,
Thanks for the info, I will check out those places. I'm always looking for alternatives to my usual places...don't like to frequent a particular place too often as I really enjoy the excitement of someplace (and someone!) new...
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Planet Happy Garden has a webpage now:
[url]http://www.planet-happy-garden.info/[/url]
cu
kaleu
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Is there anybody out there in a position to provide some fresh data --number/quality/service of girls currently working, general club rating and perhaps comments about specific girls-- about PHG? Haven't heard much about this club lately, and last time I was there was about a year ago, so looking for any updated info? Any new stars arrive since last year?
Thanks in advance for any help...